September 25, 2021 • 47 mins
LaVar, TJ, and Plaxico try to make sense of Lamar Jackson’s flip into the end zone against the Chiefs possibly injuring him, what to expect from Justin Fields moving into the starting spot for the Bears against the Browns, QB guru Jordan Palmer joins the show to talk about all the young QB’s in the NFL, and Up on Game or Down on Game!
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Plexico Birds, I'm t J. Houshmzada. We're gonna get into
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man Jordan Palmer driving down to San Diego State to
call the football game. But before he calls the game,
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we're gonna get him on as a guest to help
us talk about these quarterbacks in the league. A lot
of quarterback talk, a lot of quarterback talk. So before
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gonna break? Quarterback, determined to succeed in like to succeed
in life. I want to do that, oh day long.
So we're gonna break. And Lamar Jackson missed practice because
of the front flip. He was sore. What what do
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we make of at what what do we make of
the front flip? And uh, I can't practice because my
hip and my butt is sore, my back. I just
understand our school to get a touchdowns while I was playing.
I never had a dance and then did the front flip.
I was actually te bowing before he was before it
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was tebowe you are, and you did your your Christian
Catholic cross. Yeah. I never had a dance. I never
flipped into the end zone. But I just don't understand.
But that was your thing. You pulled out you you
made them big old pacifier uh mouthpieces famous too. He
pulled out his mouthpiece. Let the big old diaper booty
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mouthpiece hang off from his knee, take the knee and
do the cross like and the cross wasn't even the
right the right sequence that seuence. It was all backwards,
but it was only you know what shout out to
my boy said, because he was the first person I
saw had He had the mouthpiece tucked in his chintz drap.
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So I started doing y'all started putting the part that
goes around the vas mask and you stick it through
the hole. You started taking it in the bottom of them.
But it was it was it was the first mouthpiece
of that. But you had to have a you know,
then you was doing something special if you had to
type a chin strap where you could stick that little
ball in the bottom. Anyway, we Penn State, we weren't allowed.
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It was too flashy. We weren't allowed to have the
names on the numbers we get in today's age. But
if you look at our helmets right now, I guarantee
you they don't have padded Uh what's that called those
chin straps? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, we still school. No
name on the back of the jersey, no name all game. Baby.
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If don't jump into the end zone, you know what
I was like, plex I didn't dance, I didn't celebrate,
I wasn't doing none of that. It was you know
what it was for Lamar it was in the moment
he thought that was the dagger. He was, Yes, he
was in the moment and he was like that touchdown
was a dagger. I guarantee. He didn't think about it.
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It was just instinct. It was. He hit so hard.
It was like the first thing I saw was like,
oh I hurt. Yeah, I like touchdown. It's just one
of those things that let people know that and to
understand the playing football and hitting that hitting that ground,
it hurts. And if he was gonna nobody doesn't even
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have to hit you. That was not a soft landing.
If he was gonna land it like Jerome Simpson, you
remember him when he was ahead. That's as cold blooded
as it gets. Though he land, he stuck that last.
He wasn't even trying to land on the ground, like
what with his feet he was. He was so hype.
He thought he was on a mattress or something. He
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thought he was flipping on mattress. They were saying he
was sick. He had a stomach bug and he had
an illness and that made him made him do that
dive into the end zone. It was it was touching
his mind. Well, hopefully for Lamar he won't do it again,
because if you're missing practice over something you're doing in
the game after you score touchdown, don't do it again, Lamar,
that's our advice to you, and shouts out the daf
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a Way because you were the nail and the coffin, sir,
you certainly were the nail. And so for you. For
those that don't know who Da fe old Way is,
it was formerly known as Jason old Way defensive end
for Penn State. He had the fun wet end of
the game. So you know, LaVar, he's gonna shout out
his Penn State. Yeah. Well, he didn't change his He
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just went by his real name. He just yeah, he
was going by his real Librian and and sometimes you know,
people don't want to pronounce your name, say your name correctly,
so you just make it simple. And then now that
he didn't got that in the league, you're gonna pronounce
my name better say it right. His name ain't Clyde Davis.
It ain't Clyde Clyde Davis. What up? Clive Clive Hey?
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Wouldn't it be funny? Though? People started calling him Clive
Davis instead of Davis Mills. Where coming from Clive Hey? Man?
But but let's keep this quarterbacks tip. Let's keep the
quarterback talking. So Justin Fields has never lost the game
in the state of Ohio as the starting quarterback. He's
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getting this first start tomorrow against the Cleveland Browns. What
do we expect He's coming in with they he's fighting
up hill. You're going against the Cleveland Browns and that
pass rush. And you say that pass rush, but that
pass rush hasn't been a pass rush so far early
in the season. They they're not really getting pressured to.
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Cleveland Browns have played down to the level of their competition.
What do we expect from Justin Philsop? He should have
started the season, Andy Dog. Wise, he's starting Matt Naggy.
This is not Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith. What are
you doing? What do we expect from Justin Fields tomorrow
first starting the National Football League against the Cleveland Browns. Well,
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just like Deon Cole said in this comedy, welp uh,
Andy Dog, I think the worst thing that can happen
to Andy Dalton right now is to get hurt. Justin Fields,
just like you said, he never loved the game in
the state of Ohio, and his whole career Justin Fields
is going to go out and play phenomenal. Andy Dalton
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is no longer the quarterback of the Chicago Bears. It's
over with State. He's no longer with OHIWSE State. But
I'm telling you right now, the one year, ten million
dollar deal that Andy Dalton signed with Chicago Bears is
going to be his last. Justin Fields is not going
to relinquish this starting position as being the quarterback of
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this organization is over with and he's been waiting for
this opportunity his whole life. And he's supposed to be
the starting quarterback going into the season, but Matt Nacki
didn't do that. So for Andy Dalton, listen, football is
a game of all about being healthy. If you're not healthy,
then you can't play the game and you can't be
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at your best. And for him, it's an unfortunate time
for him to miss football games because Justin Fields is
going to be the starting quarterback for the Chicago Bis
a long time. Here here's where I'm I'm conflicted, and
I'm trying to understand it. Naggy is is so pro Dalton,
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it's it's almost I feel like he's misplaying the situation.
He continues to downplay the quarterback changed the inevitability of
this quarterback situation. He continues to seem to be this
staunch Andy Dalton supporter and justifying the Andy Dalton move
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that it really confuses me as to why he's going
so hard because in a way, it diminishes and it
minimizes your number eleven pick. And justin Fields, it's almost
like you're you're you're focusing so much on trying to
convince people about Andy Dalton. He's the starter. I'm not
gonna say who the starter is because of schematics. Andy
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Dalton is our starter. If he's healthy, he's coming back,
He's going to be our starter. Why are you playing
it so so like crucial that way? Why are you
so gung ho about trying to convince everybody about Andy Dalton?
And I just don't understand that. But I will say this,
justin Fields, whether win or lose in this game, because
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that is a fine Cleveland Browns team by the way.
I mean they're missing some guys on offense, but that
is a fine football team in the Cleveland Browns, for
better or for worse, justin Fields gives this team the
best opportunity to win. You used a high draft pick.
You didn't think he was gonna be there. He was there.
You get your quarterback of the future. Stop playing games
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with it, stop playing around with it. Don't mess with
his emotions. Don't turn this into a thing where people
are starting to two sides already. Don't ruin that young
man's career. He's too bright of a star, too bright
of a future, too high of a ceiling. Stop messing
around with that man's emotions. Let him play, Let him
settle into being a starting quarterback for his team. Let
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him learn what it's like to be one. Let him
do take his lumps and his bumps like anybody else.
You see what's going on in New York with Zach,
you see what's going on in Jacksonville with Trevor. Let
that man take his shots, because, honestly, out of any
of these guys, he's probably the most relevant to his
team right now today in terms of being a starting
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quarterback and making your team competitive. You have somewhat of
a semblance of a good defense. You have some decent
pieces on offensive side of the ball. Chicago has a
better opportunity of competing than than the New York Jets
or the Jacksonville Jaguars. Get that man his opportunity. Man,
Let let it be, leave it be. Andy Dalton has
been real. Hold this clipboard, how this how I see it?
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Matt Naggy knew he had to win games. He knew
he had to win games. You start a rickie, you
just don't know what you're gonna get. So he started
Andy Dalton with the hope that Andy Dalton can win
me some games. And it's gonna get tricky because when
Andy dont gets hurt. Last year, Justin Field comes into
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the game. He goes six week. Last week, he goes
six for thirteen. Last week against the Bengals, what an interception.
Six for thirteen with an interception. He's never lost in
the state of Ohio. That's changing tomorrow. He's gonna lose
his game. I don't care how you look at it.
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He doesn't have the players with the Chicago Bears that
he had out Ohio State. He just doesn't. He doesn't
have those type of athletes on the outside. And you're
going against that's one guy that's not going to be
a good a good pro quota. But no, no, no,
I'm not don't have it. I'm insinuating it tomorrow. It's
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gonna be tough sledding for him. It's his first start
in the National Football League. He's gonna be confident, but
he's gonna be nervous. And the Cleveland Browns, they have
a good defensive front on paper, they haven't played up
to it. I'm sure they're gonna chip Myles Garrett all day.
It's gonna be up the Clowney and those boys to
get pressure if they start to double Myles Garrett. But
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Ohdell Beckham will be making this season debut. Landry is
Jarvis Landry is out. But but the Browns, they just
have a better team up front. They does have a
better team. They just have a better team. But that's
Andy Dalton situation. If he's in the game too, and
this is the thing, and having Justin Fields help with
his legs, but if they get behind and Justin Fields
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just has to throw the ball. Yes, he's a rookie
court it's not just him your first starting the National
Football League. There's gonna be some things that you haven't
seen yet. He'll make some plays with his legs. But
Matt Naggie knew he had to win games. I think
it's a lot quarter back when you give him creditor,
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and so when he when he gets knocked down, we're
gonna somebody gonna hold and strong Wilson. I didn't say
he has the most upside. I said that Zack Wilson
could be up I think he was going to get
the Rookie of the Year. I still think he might
get it, even though he dropped. He's off to a
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horrible start. But it is what it is. I don't
care what you this is the second segment that's trying
to bully me. I don't care. Man. Just go ahead,
drive off, drive. I am gonna drive off and you
know where I'm gonna drive to to help pick up
my man, justin Fields, so I could take him to
the game where he hasn't lost the game and that
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Jordan's what's going on? Guys, Welcome to to the show.
Welcome to the show. My many Plastico. I haven't seen
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back in Pittsburgh. Is funny, don't I right in front
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we're talking about this Justin Fields situation from your perspective,
I mean, what's your take on it? I mean, do
you think Naggie's handling it the right way? Do you
think Fields is ready? Like, what's your take? Well, I
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kind of feel like the topic not just you know,
I was listening to you guys talk, but I think
every the whole narrative around this is around I think
potentially the wrong thing. The conversation is about the wrong thing.
I don't know that it's so much about Justin Fields
or Andy Dalton when you take a big step back
and t J and I've had a lot of conversations
from the thirty thousand square or thirty thou foot view,
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and really this comes down to you got a coach who,
if this season doesn't go well, is either out or
really close to be an out right. He already had
a top pick in Mitch Drabinsky. Now he wasn't part
of that selection, but he had to you know, ride
that out, play with a young guy, had some success
with mix Nick Foles last year a little bit, and
then now he's get to get picked this you know,
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leventh pick, Justin fields, he goes and secures a veteran,
And I really think what the is more about is
if this season doesn't go well, the best way to
protect yourself is to lean on a veteran quarterback if
you think he gives you a better chance to win
until the rookie truly proves that he's ready. Because if
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you roll that rookie out early and he's not ready
and he can't play or he's not ready, and what
you guys hit on I think is a big piece
of this. They don't have a lot of weapons around him,
whoever the quarterback is, and so if you roll that
guy out there and it's unsuccessful, you're getting fired mid season.
And so I think you got to take a step
back here and go look, I think this is just
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a coach who's leaning on a veteran because he thinks
he gives him a better chance to win, knowing that
once the rookie goes in, he can't come back out again.
And if that product is not good, the first person
to lose his job as a head coach. Hey, Jordan,
And for those that do not know, I'm gonna enlighten,
you educate, you train the best young quarterbacks in the
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league from Josh Allen, Sam Donald couldn't play now all
of a sudden, he's really good now Hunt Jordan, we
knew this has gonna happen. Yeah, I was shocked. I
thought he sucked right exactly, Joe Burrow trained Trevor Lawrence.
When when when you look at the rooky quarterbacks, what
what have you seen that you like? What haven't you
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seen that all we can be better at and just
talk about that just coming from college, that transition of
playing in the National Football League as a quarterback in
everything that's on your shoulders, and then maybe a guy
like Sam Donald, it just you need to be in
a better situation when better players and oh I guess
you can play now. Yeah, I think, Um, when you
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go from college to pro or high school of college,
it doesn't matter or for one career and you shift
careers whatever. There's a level of newness. Okay, I spent
a lot of time talking about the newness. So for
for most of these guys who play and spread offenses,
and they all look to the sideline in college and
they hold up these boards with pictures of the play
and then they don't communicate in the huddle, which was
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Ohio State. Then one of the new things you gotta
do is get to play into your headset that's new,
and then you've got to communicate that to people and
you gotta get them lined up, you know, the newness
of not having school anymore and playing ball full time,
the newness of the pressure that like, if you just
like the whole picture, I'm not just talking about the offensive,
the defense. Everything's new right now. If you played in
a big time program and if you were a big deal,
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there's less newness. Okay, So Trevor Lawrence being the faith
of college football really for about three years now, I
think Jacksonville Jaguars. Being the quarterback for Jacksonville probably feels
smaller than being the face of college football. But going
from b y U to the New York Jets, that's
a lot of newness. So I always look at it
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the amount of newness, and then what tools do they
have to overcome that. Now, a really good receiver, a
good running game, like those are tools, but like, is
this person mature enough? Can they actually handle adversity? And
and so when I think about these quarterbacks, I just
look at the spots that they're going too. So I
look at Mac Jones going from Alabama and what is
expected of the quarterback at Alabama, and not just the
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year that he had last year, but he watched two,
He watched j you know, and he's been sitting in
that room watching this stuff go down goes in New England.
There's not that much newness and the expectations at Alabama
each week to win versus expectations of new in a
rebuilding phase, I just does not that much newness. And
then I look at the situation that maxed in where
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they're gonna run the ball, they're gonna play good defense,
they're gonna get high percentage of completion opportunities for him,
a lot of stuff underneed, a lot of checkdowns, a
lot of design ball, you know, kind of telling where
to go with it. Until I look at that situation,
I go, he's probably gonna have a good rookie of
the rookie year because the newness there's not that much.
Zack Wilson from b y U to New York City
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playing there with no weapons. He had a bunch of
weapons for b y U. You know, had a bunch
of weapons, all the new system, the new everything, well,
that's probably not gonna go very well. And so I
just look at the amount of newness and can they
handle it. And with Justin Fields, he is the rare
player I think in the last few years where I
would say being the quarterback and I played in Chicago,
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being the quarterback of the Bears is a big deal.
People don't realize that Chicago is the biggest market in
the football. This is New York. When New York splits
with two teams, so the attentions all on the Bears,
and so there's not that many guys that can handle it.
Mr Bisky couldn't. Andy Dalton's yeah, not really. I didn't
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think he was the first round pick. I agree Rex
Grossman handled it very well and he was just okay
as a talent. I was a ke joking. I mean
he did so. He did make it to the Super Bowl.
He was limited physically, but he got to the Super Bowl.
So I look at Justin I go, he can handle
all of this. I just my concern is the weapons
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and the situation they're gonna put him in. Speaking of
young quarterbacks, how do you think, what do you think
and how do you think The San Francisco forwarded on
as we want to do with the Jimmy g and
Trey Lance situation, because I think, uh, Trey Lance has
the most upside of all of your quarterbacks. So how
do you think they're going to approach this? I love
what they're doing so far. We have We're going into
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these Sundays having no idea if Trey is gonna play
a ton if he's not. He didn't play it all
last week. He got three snaps a week before he
could get three quarters. So one they got the guessing
game going. But to what they did, if you followed
along trading camp, Jimmy had a great training camp from everybody,
you know, talking to guys on the team and stuff.
Everybody's like, hey, he's running this thing. He looks great, right,
the best he's looked. And then Trey struggled a little bit.
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In the media they said he was struggling, but if
you talk to guys on the team, what they're saying is, well, yeah,
they're throwing the entire playbook at him now, but if
he goes in the game, he's not going to run
all this stuff. They're just using this offseason to expose
him to everything, knowing they don't have to get him
to run all of this stuff right now, and so
I think the ability to eat him in on a
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team that can go on the Super Bowl run. I
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Heis and winner Troy Smith Teddy Ginn Jr. Remember that
game opening kicked off way back. Jimmy Tebow was the
true freshman quarterback at Florida, and they just kind of
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used them a little bit all season, and as the
game's got bigger, they just slowly put him into the
bigger moments more and more and more. But that was
Chris Leake's team. He's a senior, and the next year
they were ready to roll it to me Tibo, And
I think that's a similar thing. I'm not comparing the
two players, but I like that they can. They have
a quarterback. They can. They've been to a super Bowl
with Jimmy g They can get really far with him,
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and they can continue to bring along trade lance and
put him in good situations to have success. So if
I could pick a quarterback to be right now of
these rookies, it would be trade lance by a landslide
talking to Jordan Palmer, quarterback, instructor, trainer, developers straordinaire. Uh,
former pro player. Uh. He was the better of the
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two brothers of him and Carson, obviously, but you know,
Carson got all of love while Jordan was was under
valued and underappreciated. Uh. I just thought I put that
out there for everybody to hear in the world. Shots
out to Carson. Uh Man, I was being sarcastic Jordan.
By the way, can I get something about casting right quick? Yeah?
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Go ahead. But I played against a ton of times,
you know, playing in Pittsburgh and him being a cincinnat it.
But but when I had the opportunity sitting these meetings
with Carson, super cool dude with with the rors on
the Cardinals, I could not believe how intelligent this man was,
super cool. It blew me away. How he could just
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get up there and he knew everything about the offense,
the defense, every single player, what they were doing. I mean,
it was you were shocked. I was. I was sitting
in my chat like, yo, this man is really intelligent.
(31:10):
I'm not even gonna dig delve deep into that one
right there, So you thought he was, you know, he
was physically I didn't know that big. Yeah. I think
you guys ever see the show Billions. You guys watched
I haven't watched it too much, but I definitely want
to see it. I'm intrigued by Brody off of off
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of the show. What was the Terror show? Anyway? Yeah,
I know what you're talking about. Go ahead, I want Yeah. So,
so this guy, Bobby Axley is a great character, and
he's a you know, hedge fund multi billionaire savage, right,
And when one of the guys on the show is
describing him and he says, Bobby Axle Rod, you can't
get to him. He sees the whole board. He sees
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the moves, he sees the people, he sees the culture,
the conversations everything. I think the best quarterbacks in the NFL,
the really true, really franchise guys see the whole board.
They know, of course, they know the offense, they know
the defense. They know that the old lines struggling because
they don't like the coach. They know that the dvs
aren't getting along. They know that the equipment managers daughters
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in the hospital. They know. They see the whole board,
and um that was the first player I got to
play with who saw the whole but I got to
back him up for four years. Person saw the whole board.
I'm glad you said that, because another quarterback that may
see the whole board better than anybody had his his
guy come out and here's what he had to say.
The interesting thing I think here is uh. And this
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is just me an outsider looking in. It was like
Bill never really think his you know, emotions or feelings
never evolved with age. Um. This is Guerrero talking to
to the Herald. I think in time with Tom, and
as Tom got into his late thirties or early forties,
I think Bill was still trying to treat him like
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that twenty year old kid that he drafted, and all
of the players I think realized was different. He's older,
so he should be treated differently, and all of the players,
none of them would have cared that he was treated differently.
I think that that was such a Bill thing. He's
never evolved, So you can't treat someone who's in their
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forties like they're in their twenties. It doesn't work. Now,
this is obviously Alex Guerrero, who is uh, you know,
Tom Brady's trainer um in terms of health wise and
and taking care of him part of the whole TV
twelve situation. You have a unique relationship with some very
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very special players as well. My question to you would be, first,
do you find it appropriate that Alex found himself being
quoted in an article one week out from him and
the much anticipated uh matchup of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
And then the second part of that would be do
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you do you do you buy this what Alex is
saying based upon what the uniqueness of a relationship between
a trainer and the player. You know, it seems as
though this only comes out if Tom Brady is okay
with they're coming out. That's the key part right there.
This is this is an approved comment as far as
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I'm which means and the timing of this this is
savage right here, I mean from the whole football world
talking about this because Tom Brady doesn't have to answer this.
You've got a press conference this week and he can
just say, you know, that's those are Alex's thoughts. I'm
focused on the game and blah blah blah, and Bill
Belichick can do his thing. I don't you know, I
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don't worry about comments outside the building, and you know
he can do what The reality is, everybody in that
New England locker rooms talking about this. They're talking about
it all week, guaranteed, and that's coming up, and then
the wives read it, and then they're talking about it
at home. This is a thing in New England. It's
got to be. And so I don't. I don't it's
appropriate because he's on team, he's a business partner. It's
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not a cove to be appropriate for me to say
something controversial about a guy that I trade in the offseason.
Absolutely not. But that's not the relationship they have. And
and as far as that actual, I forget the comment
by Alex just the subject matter. When I look at this,
I mean, I got to go back to who Bill
Bilichick is. He's in he's a military do you go
naval academy. He studies war, he studies the great General's right.
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I don't know if Sean McVeigh does that, but Bill
Belichick does that. In the military. You don't have some
awesome sniper and let him kind of roll around the
way that he wants to roll around. That's just not
how it works, no matter how good he is no
matter how, it doesn't matter. Disney might make a movie
about the guy later, right, but the military is not,
you know, producing it. And so that works. I mean,
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this is a dynasty. We can talk about Tom brady
success leaving New England, but just in the conversation with Tom,
Brady was still a Patriot. It's the best dynasty we've
ever seen in football in this sport may never happen again.
And so it worked. And so if you put yourself
in belichick shoes, So let's say you start caving to
this about five years ago, and he started building around
Brady with no certainty that Brady's gonna play until he's
forty four or forty eight or whatever. He's gonna play until, right.
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If you just kind of do that and then Brady retires,
then what you go back to the way it was.
So for Belichick he had to continue to go with
what's working and catch some flak for this couple of
years and then maybe he's got his next guy in
in mac Jones and he'll just continue on the Patriot
way and that will survive. And Brady being Brady, is
got himself into a fantastic situation. Hey, George, Man, we
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appreciate you coming on. Anything you want to promote talk
about before we let you go. Yeah, man, t J
and I are going to be working with some guys
this offseason. I'm fired up, man. We gotta we got
a big offseason. Quarterbacks and whiteouts coming out. My boy
Hoops is the best receiver coach in the country. Appreciate
you guys all the way to the NFL. Guys, I
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appreciate my invite to train your linebackers down. Jordan, I've
told this dude more than once. I appreciate more than
wants to come on out. You know he's busy. LaVar
is uh a man of many things to do, busy.
But Jordan, man, we appreciate your time. Y'all. Go tune
into the game. Jordan is calling it. He's gonna kill it.
(37:18):
Telling what game you're calling. I'm actually up here at
home Depot or whatever they call this place now. Well
stuff is the stub Hub now No, it's like, uh,
it used to be the home Deepost. Dignity went from
home Depot to stop Hub to Dignity. Help he calling
the San Diego State game. Jordan. We appreciate your Saturday man,
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take care of man. Be safe, all right, bro, we
gotta get to my man. Ilo trend alright, fellas. Let's
start at Soldier Field in Chicago. Number twelve, Notre Dame
taking on eighteen thranked Wisconsin, and Notre Dame, after a
slow offensive start, finally breaking through drops back linebacker Blitz
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coming throws high and far down the near sideline to
Kevin Austin to the fod catches into the two touchdown
Notre Dame. That's Paul Burmeister with the call on w SBT.
Notre Dame has attended three lead over Wisconsin. They're down
to nineteen seconds left to play in the first half.
Number two Georgia continues to be all over Vanderbilt. Here's
(38:24):
Scott Howard on WSB to go, we run a reverse
on the toss of Ladin McConkey. He's got all day
fifty ten five, got a block at the three and
skippers into the ends on just inside the pilot for
his second touchdown this morning. They are at halftime now
and Georgia's up thirty eight to nothing over Vanderbilt, and
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LaVar still wearing a smile because Penn State hosting Villanova
Clifford class takes the snap back, deliversdown field. He's got
Washington's five Parker thirty touchdown Washington. And just to give
you a your listeners a peek behind the scenes here
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Steve Jones the call on w q w K. That
was actually not LaVar screaming in the background live. He
is so big time back there that they actually loop
in him shouting hysterically in the background during their actual
radio broadcast. It's sort of am I have earned the
right to do that? Stick City is a place Plexico,
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That's right. Seld Sean Clifford of Penn State completed ten
of four teen passes in that first half for two
hundred and twenty six yards. He threw two fifty two
yard touchdown passes in that first half. Busy Saturday in
the NFL, Steelers linebacker t J. Watt downgraded to out
(39:49):
for Sunday's game against the Bengals. Dallas Cowboys head coach
Mike McCarthy says Cowboy linebacker Keian O'Neil will not play
on Monday against the Eagles after Neil tested positive for COVID.
The Eagles meanwhile activated tight end Zach Ertz from the
COVID list. He will play on Monday night football against
the Cowboys at the Ryder Cup. Day three underway and
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Team USA continuing to dominate. They have a commanding nine
three lead over Europe. And finally, we actually have some
NBA news today, Seam's Charanti reporting that most of the
players on the Philadelphia seventy sixers roster, including Joel Embiide,
wanted to take a jet to Los Angeles this week
to meet with disgruntled star Ben Simmons, but were informed
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not to come, and that the three time All Star
did not want to meet with them. Snitching somebody somebody.
He don't want us to come out here. I'm snitching.
They're trying to assassinate his character. Yeah, that's that's so
disingenuous right there. I'll appreciate you with the updates, man,
(40:54):
you got it. I'd take a private jet to meet
you guys any two. Well, we appreciate that they just
wanted to come to l Just say you can meet
with me and then stand me up. Just let us
get out there for crazy on that expense account, you
got it. Yeah. And Ben Simmons, he like, I don't
want none of that. No, you can't come see me,
but he's playing the victims. So when we come back,
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it's up on game or down on game. We're gonna
see how we've done last week, in the previous weeks,
and how we're gonna do moving forward. We gotta see.
We gotta keep a track of this, an account of
how guys are doing. Unfortunately, you know, so Ryan isn't
here today. Get your mind right and see if you're
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So last week LaVar went three or three or four
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on picks six and one on the over undertotal. Yeah,
t J, three or four on picks one in six
in totals, crushing plaques one in six and picks and
three and four on totals. So hey, bro clock is
right twice today. Let's keep it going. Let's go. Let's
go week. This week we have the football team at
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the Bills, who are saved favored by seven and a
half points with an over under of forty five and
a half. I'm going under under. Are you picking the
Bills are gonna win? Who are you going with the
seven point spread? You taking? Well, I'm taking the under
on the totals. So the totals forty five and a half,
(44:39):
I'm taking the under on that they'll cover. They'll I'm
taking I'm taking up we'll cover that seven. I'm taking
over in the Bills. Yep, I'm taking under end the Bills. Yeah,
there you go, all right. Next up, we have these
Saints at the Patriots, who are favored by three with
an over under of forty two and a half. Forty
two and a half. They will go over that. What
what are the Saints favor by three points? Yeah, they'll
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cover that. I'm taking the Patriots and under I'm taking.
I'm taking the over and the Saint Yeah, of course
you are, because you want to be right like me.
Go ahead, come on, But got the Bengals at the Steelers,
favored by the Steelers are favored by three points over
under a forty three Oh, that's gonna be under. And honestly,
I think the Bills are going to knock off my Steelers.
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The Bills play the football team, the Bengals. M he said,
the Bills. I just had to let him know because
I'm on one this week. I'm winning. The Bengals will
cover and it will go over. I'm going over and
I'm taking. Of course, of course you're taking the Steelers.
Of course. See this is where I separate myself from y'all.
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Go ahead, all right, Buckaneers, it rams over under fifty
five and a half with the Bucks favored by one point,
I'm going to take Oh, the Rams are gonna win
this game and the points will not be as many
as they think. This is what be a defensive struggle.
I'm taking the under and I'm taking the Rams in
the wind, I'm taking the Rams and I'm taking over.
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The Buck's defense has not been well, and neither has
the Rams. The Rams and over. I'm taking the under
and I'm taking Tampa Bay. Is that it is? That?
It bow real quick packers at niners minus three over
under fifty, minus three over under fifty. Take the point
and take the over. I'm I'm taking it over, and
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I'm taking the forty niners. I'm taking the niners in
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welcome back to the second hour up on game. LaVar Arrington,
Plexico Birds, I'm t J. Houshmzada. We're gonna get into
quarterback playing in the NFL and shout out to my
man Jordan Palmer driving down to San Diego State to
call the football game. But before he calls the game,
(02:35):
we're gonna get him on as a guest to help
us talk about these quarterbacks in the league. A lot
of quarterback talk, a lot of quarterback talk. So before
we went on break well, a couple of breaks ago,
we discussed a quarterback guy sore, but he's young, sweet,
don't have to worry about it like myself, Plex and LaVar,
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gonna break? Quarterback, determined to succeed in like to succeed
in life. I want to do that, oh day long.
So we're gonna break. And Lamar Jackson missed practice because
of the front flip. He was sore. What what do
(03:40):
we make of at what what do we make of
the front flip? And uh, I can't practice because my
hip and my butt is sore, my back. I just
understand our school to get a touchdowns while I was playing.
I never had a dance and then did the front flip.
I was actually te bowing before he was before it
(04:02):
was tebowe you are, and you did your your Christian
Catholic cross. Yeah. I never had a dance. I never
flipped into the end zone. But I just don't understand.
But that was your thing. You pulled out you you
made them big old pacifier uh mouthpieces famous too. He
pulled out his mouthpiece. Let the big old diaper booty
(04:23):
mouthpiece hang off from his knee, take the knee and
do the cross like and the cross wasn't even the
right the right sequence that seuence. It was all backwards,
but it was only you know what shout out to
my boy said, because he was the first person I
saw had He had the mouthpiece tucked in his chintz drap.
(04:46):
So I started doing y'all started putting the part that
goes around the vas mask and you stick it through
the hole. You started taking it in the bottom of them.
But it was it was it was the first mouthpiece
of that. But you had to have a you know,
then you was doing something special if you had to
type a chin strap where you could stick that little
ball in the bottom. Anyway, we Penn State, we weren't allowed.
(05:08):
It was too flashy. We weren't allowed to have the
names on the numbers we get in today's age. But
if you look at our helmets right now, I guarantee
you they don't have padded Uh what's that called those
chin straps? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, we still school. No
name on the back of the jersey, no name all game. Baby.
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If don't jump into the end zone, you know what
I was like, plex I didn't dance, I didn't celebrate,
I wasn't doing none of that. It was you know
what it was for Lamar it was in the moment
he thought that was the dagger. He was, Yes, he
was in the moment and he was like that touchdown
was a dagger. I guarantee. He didn't think about it.
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It was just instinct. It was. He hit so hard.
It was like the first thing I saw was like,
oh I hurt. Yeah, I like touchdown. It's just one
of those things that let people know that and to
understand the playing football and hitting that hitting that ground,
it hurts. And if he was gonna nobody doesn't even
(06:11):
have to hit you. That was not a soft landing.
If he was gonna land it like Jerome Simpson, you
remember him when he was ahead. That's as cold blooded
as it gets. Though he land, he stuck that last.
He wasn't even trying to land on the ground, like
what with his feet he was. He was so hype.
He thought he was on a mattress or something. He
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thought he was flipping on mattress. They were saying he
was sick. He had a stomach bug and he had
an illness and that made him made him do that
dive into the end zone. It was it was touching
his mind. Well, hopefully for Lamar he won't do it again,
because if you're missing practice over something you're doing in
the game after you score touchdown, don't do it again, Lamar,
that's our advice to you, and shouts out the daf
(06:55):
a Way because you were the nail and the coffin, sir,
you certainly were the nail. And so for you. For
those that don't know who Da fe old Way is,
it was formerly known as Jason old Way defensive end
for Penn State. He had the fun wet end of
the game. So you know, LaVar, he's gonna shout out
his Penn State. Yeah. Well, he didn't change his He
(07:19):
just went by his real name. He just yeah, he
was going by his real Librian and and sometimes you know,
people don't want to pronounce your name, say your name correctly,
so you just make it simple. And then now that
he didn't got that in the league, you're gonna pronounce
my name better say it right. His name ain't Clyde Davis.
It ain't Clyde Clyde Davis. What up? Clive Clive Hey?
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Wouldn't it be funny? Though? People started calling him Clive
Davis instead of Davis Mills. Where coming from Clive Hey? Man?
But but let's keep this quarterbacks tip. Let's keep the
quarterback talking. So Justin Fields has never lost the game
in the state of Ohio as the starting quarterback. He's
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getting this first start tomorrow against the Cleveland Browns. What
do we expect He's coming in with they he's fighting
up hill. You're going against the Cleveland Browns and that
pass rush. And you say that pass rush, but that
pass rush hasn't been a pass rush so far early
in the season. They they're not really getting pressured to.
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Cleveland Browns have played down to the level of their competition.
What do we expect from Justin Philsop? He should have
started the season, Andy Dog. Wise, he's starting Matt Naggy.
This is not Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith. What are
you doing? What do we expect from Justin Fields tomorrow
first starting the National Football League against the Cleveland Browns. Well,
(08:46):
just like Deon Cole said in this comedy, welp uh,
Andy Dog, I think the worst thing that can happen
to Andy Dalton right now is to get hurt. Justin Fields,
just like you said, he never loved the game in
the state of Ohio, and his whole career Justin Fields
is going to go out and play phenomenal. Andy Dalton
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is no longer the quarterback of the Chicago Bears. It's
over with State. He's no longer with OHIWSE State. But
I'm telling you right now, the one year, ten million
dollar deal that Andy Dalton signed with Chicago Bears is
going to be his last. Justin Fields is not going
to relinquish this starting position as being the quarterback of
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this organization is over with and he's been waiting for
this opportunity his whole life. And he's supposed to be
the starting quarterback going into the season, but Matt Nacki
didn't do that. So for Andy Dalton, listen, football is
a game of all about being healthy. If you're not healthy,
then you can't play the game and you can't be
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at your best. And for him, it's an unfortunate time
for him to miss football games because Justin Fields is
going to be the starting quarterback for the Chicago Bis
a long time. Here here's where I'm I'm conflicted, and
I'm trying to understand it. Naggy is is so pro Dalton,
(10:10):
it's it's almost I feel like he's misplaying the situation.
He continues to downplay the quarterback changed the inevitability of
this quarterback situation. He continues to seem to be this
staunch Andy Dalton supporter and justifying the Andy Dalton move
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that it really confuses me as to why he's going
so hard because in a way, it diminishes and it
minimizes your number eleven pick. And justin Fields, it's almost
like you're you're you're focusing so much on trying to
convince people about Andy Dalton. He's the starter. I'm not
gonna say who the starter is because of schematics. Andy
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Dalton is our starter. If he's healthy, he's coming back,
He's going to be our starter. Why are you playing
it so so like crucial that way? Why are you
so gung ho about trying to convince everybody about Andy Dalton?
And I just don't understand that. But I will say this,
justin Fields, whether win or lose in this game, because
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that is a fine Cleveland Browns team by the way.
I mean they're missing some guys on offense, but that
is a fine football team in the Cleveland Browns, for
better or for worse, justin Fields gives this team the
best opportunity to win. You used a high draft pick.
You didn't think he was gonna be there. He was there.
You get your quarterback of the future. Stop playing games
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with it, stop playing around with it. Don't mess with
his emotions. Don't turn this into a thing where people
are starting to two sides already. Don't ruin that young
man's career. He's too bright of a star, too bright
of a future, too high of a ceiling. Stop messing
around with that man's emotions. Let him play, Let him
settle into being a starting quarterback for his team. Let
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him learn what it's like to be one. Let him
do take his lumps and his bumps like anybody else.
You see what's going on in New York with Zach,
you see what's going on in Jacksonville with Trevor. Let
that man take his shots, because, honestly, out of any
of these guys, he's probably the most relevant to his
team right now today in terms of being a starting
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quarterback and making your team competitive. You have somewhat of
a semblance of a good defense. You have some decent
pieces on offensive side of the ball. Chicago has a
better opportunity of competing than than the New York Jets
or the Jacksonville Jaguars. Get that man his opportunity. Man,
Let let it be, leave it be. Andy Dalton has
been real. Hold this clipboard, how this how I see it?
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Matt Naggy knew he had to win games. He knew
he had to win games. You start a rickie, you
just don't know what you're gonna get. So he started
Andy Dalton with the hope that Andy Dalton can win
me some games. And it's gonna get tricky because when
Andy dont gets hurt. Last year, Justin Field comes into
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the game. He goes six week. Last week, he goes
six for thirteen. Last week against the Bengals, what an interception.
Six for thirteen with an interception. He's never lost in
the state of Ohio. That's changing tomorrow. He's gonna lose
his game. I don't care how you look at it.
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He doesn't have the players with the Chicago Bears that
he had out Ohio State. He just doesn't. He doesn't
have those type of athletes on the outside. And you're
going against that's one guy that's not going to be
a good a good pro quota. But no, no, no,
I'm not don't have it. I'm insinuating it tomorrow. It's
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gonna be tough sledding for him. It's his first start
in the National Football League. He's gonna be confident, but
he's gonna be nervous. And the Cleveland Browns, they have
a good defensive front on paper, they haven't played up
to it. I'm sure they're gonna chip Myles Garrett all day.
It's gonna be up the Clowney and those boys to
get pressure if they start to double Myles Garrett. But
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Ohdell Beckham will be making this season debut. Landry is
Jarvis Landry is out. But but the Browns, they just
have a better team up front. They does have a
better team. They just have a better team. But that's
Andy Dalton situation. If he's in the game too, and
this is the thing, and having Justin Fields help with
his legs, but if they get behind and Justin Fields
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just has to throw the ball. Yes, he's a rookie
court it's not just him your first starting the National
Football League. There's gonna be some things that you haven't
seen yet. He'll make some plays with his legs. But
Matt Naggie knew he had to win games. I think
it's a lot quarter back when you give him creditor,
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and so when he when he gets knocked down, we're
gonna somebody gonna hold and strong Wilson. I didn't say
he has the most upside. I said that Zack Wilson
could be up I think he was going to get
the Rookie of the Year. I still think he might
get it, even though he dropped. He's off to a
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horrible start. But it is what it is. I don't
care what you this is the second segment that's trying
to bully me. I don't care. Man. Just go ahead,
drive off, drive. I am gonna drive off and you
know where I'm gonna drive to to help pick up
my man, justin Fields, so I could take him to
the game where he hasn't lost the game and that
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my face. I still got abs. I don't work out
but maybe maybe maybe every blue I don't got, I
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out there. Jordan Palmer joining is Jordan? What's up man?
Jordan's what's going on? Guys, Welcome to to the show.
Welcome to the show. My many Plastico. I haven't seen
you since you ran a sluggo right on. I was
standing on the sideline obviously right in front of me
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back in Pittsburgh. Is funny, don't I right in front
of him. That's a that's a beautiful memory, Jordan's we
we're talking about this Justin Fields situation from your perspective,
I mean, what's your take on it? I mean, do
you think Naggie's handling it the right way? Do you
think Fields is ready? Like, what's your take? Well, I
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kind of feel like the topic not just you know,
I was listening to you guys talk, but I think
every the whole narrative around this is around I think
potentially the wrong thing. The conversation is about the wrong thing.
I don't know that it's so much about Justin Fields
or Andy Dalton when you take a big step back
and t J and I've had a lot of conversations
from the thirty thousand square or thirty thou foot view,
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and really this comes down to you got a coach who,
if this season doesn't go well, is either out or
really close to be an out right. He already had
a top pick in Mitch Drabinsky. Now he wasn't part
of that selection, but he had to you know, ride
that out, play with a young guy, had some success
with mix Nick Foles last year a little bit, and
then now he's get to get picked this you know,
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leventh pick, Justin fields, he goes and secures a veteran,
And I really think what the is more about is
if this season doesn't go well, the best way to
protect yourself is to lean on a veteran quarterback if
you think he gives you a better chance to win
until the rookie truly proves that he's ready. Because if
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you roll that rookie out early and he's not ready
and he can't play or he's not ready, and what
you guys hit on I think is a big piece
of this. They don't have a lot of weapons around him,
whoever the quarterback is, and so if you roll that
guy out there and it's unsuccessful, you're getting fired mid season.
And so I think you got to take a step
back here and go look, I think this is just
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a coach who's leaning on a veteran because he thinks
he gives him a better chance to win, knowing that
once the rookie goes in, he can't come back out again.
And if that product is not good, the first person
to lose his job as a head coach. Hey, Jordan,
And for those that do not know, I'm gonna enlighten,
you educate, you train the best young quarterbacks in the
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league from Josh Allen, Sam Donald couldn't play now all
of a sudden, he's really good now Hunt Jordan, we
knew this has gonna happen. Yeah, I was shocked. I
thought he sucked right exactly, Joe Burrow trained Trevor Lawrence.
When when when you look at the rooky quarterbacks, what
what have you seen that you like? What haven't you
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seen that all we can be better at and just
talk about that just coming from college, that transition of
playing in the National Football League as a quarterback in
everything that's on your shoulders, and then maybe a guy
like Sam Donald, it just you need to be in
a better situation when better players and oh I guess
you can play now. Yeah, I think, Um, when you
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go from college to pro or high school of college,
it doesn't matter or for one career and you shift
careers whatever. There's a level of newness. Okay, I spent
a lot of time talking about the newness. So for
for most of these guys who play and spread offenses,
and they all look to the sideline in college and
they hold up these boards with pictures of the play
and then they don't communicate in the huddle, which was
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Ohio State. Then one of the new things you gotta
do is get to play into your headset that's new,
and then you've got to communicate that to people and
you gotta get them lined up, you know, the newness
of not having school anymore and playing ball full time,
the newness of the pressure that like, if you just
like the whole picture, I'm not just talking about the offensive,
the defense. Everything's new right now. If you played in
a big time program and if you were a big deal,
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there's less newness. Okay, So Trevor Lawrence being the faith
of college football really for about three years now, I
think Jacksonville Jaguars. Being the quarterback for Jacksonville probably feels
smaller than being the face of college football. But going
from b y U to the New York Jets, that's
a lot of newness. So I always look at it
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the amount of newness, and then what tools do they
have to overcome that. Now, a really good receiver, a
good running game, like those are tools, but like, is
this person mature enough? Can they actually handle adversity? And
and so when I think about these quarterbacks, I just
look at the spots that they're going too. So I
look at Mac Jones going from Alabama and what is
expected of the quarterback at Alabama, and not just the
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year that he had last year, but he watched two,
He watched j you know, and he's been sitting in
that room watching this stuff go down goes in New England.
There's not that much newness and the expectations at Alabama
each week to win versus expectations of new in a
rebuilding phase, I just does not that much newness. And
then I look at the situation that maxed in where
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they're gonna run the ball, they're gonna play good defense,
they're gonna get high percentage of completion opportunities for him,
a lot of stuff underneed, a lot of checkdowns, a
lot of design ball, you know, kind of telling where
to go with it. Until I look at that situation,
I go, he's probably gonna have a good rookie of
the rookie year because the newness there's not that much.
Zack Wilson from b y U to New York City
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playing there with no weapons. He had a bunch of
weapons for b y U. You know, had a bunch
of weapons, all the new system, the new everything, well,
that's probably not gonna go very well. And so I
just look at the amount of newness and can they
handle it. And with Justin Fields, he is the rare
player I think in the last few years where I
would say being the quarterback and I played in Chicago,
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being the quarterback of the Bears is a big deal.
People don't realize that Chicago is the biggest market in
the football. This is New York. When New York splits
with two teams, so the attentions all on the Bears,
and so there's not that many guys that can handle it.
Mr Bisky couldn't. Andy Dalton's yeah, not really. I didn't
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think he was the first round pick. I agree Rex
Grossman handled it very well and he was just okay
as a talent. I was a ke joking. I mean
he did so. He did make it to the Super Bowl.
He was limited physically, but he got to the Super Bowl.
So I look at Justin I go, he can handle
all of this. I just my concern is the weapons
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and the situation they're gonna put him in. Speaking of
young quarterbacks, how do you think, what do you think
and how do you think The San Francisco forwarded on
as we want to do with the Jimmy g and
Trey Lance situation, because I think, uh, Trey Lance has
the most upside of all of your quarterbacks. So how
do you think they're going to approach this? I love
what they're doing so far. We have We're going into
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these Sundays having no idea if Trey is gonna play
a ton if he's not. He didn't play it all
last week. He got three snaps a week before he
could get three quarters. So one they got the guessing
game going. But to what they did, if you followed
along trading camp, Jimmy had a great training camp from everybody,
you know, talking to guys on the team and stuff.
Everybody's like, hey, he's running this thing. He looks great, right,
the best he's looked. And then Trey struggled a little bit.
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In the media they said he was struggling, but if
you talk to guys on the team, what they're saying is, well, yeah,
they're throwing the entire playbook at him now, but if
he goes in the game, he's not going to run
all this stuff. They're just using this offseason to expose
him to everything, knowing they don't have to get him
to run all of this stuff right now, and so
I think the ability to eat him in on a
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team that can go on the Super Bowl run. I
think back to Florida University of Florida winning UH winning
the National Championship. Chris Leaks their quarterback they're playing against.
Heis and winner Troy Smith Teddy Ginn Jr. Remember that
game opening kicked off way back. Jimmy Tebow was the
true freshman quarterback at Florida, and they just kind of
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used them a little bit all season, and as the
game's got bigger, they just slowly put him into the
bigger moments more and more and more. But that was
Chris Leake's team. He's a senior, and the next year
they were ready to roll it to me Tibo, And
I think that's a similar thing. I'm not comparing the
two players, but I like that they can. They have
a quarterback. They can. They've been to a super Bowl
with Jimmy g They can get really far with him,
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and they can continue to bring along trade lance and
put him in good situations to have success. So if
I could pick a quarterback to be right now of
these rookies, it would be trade lance by a landslide
talking to Jordan Palmer, quarterback, instructor, trainer, developers straordinaire. Uh,
former pro player. Uh. He was the better of the
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two brothers of him and Carson, obviously, but you know,
Carson got all of love while Jordan was was under
valued and underappreciated. Uh. I just thought I put that
out there for everybody to hear in the world. Shots
out to Carson. Uh Man, I was being sarcastic Jordan.
By the way, can I get something about casting right quick? Yeah?
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Go ahead. But I played against a ton of times,
you know, playing in Pittsburgh and him being a cincinnat it.
But but when I had the opportunity sitting these meetings
with Carson, super cool dude with with the rors on
the Cardinals, I could not believe how intelligent this man was,
super cool. It blew me away. How he could just
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get up there and he knew everything about the offense,
the defense, every single player, what they were doing. I mean,
it was you were shocked. I was. I was sitting
in my chat like, yo, this man is really intelligent.
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I'm not even gonna dig delve deep into that one
right there, So you thought he was, you know, he
was physically I didn't know that big. Yeah. I think
you guys ever see the show Billions. You guys watched
I haven't watched it too much, but I definitely want
to see it. I'm intrigued by Brody off of off
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of the show. What was the Terror show? Anyway? Yeah,
I know what you're talking about. Go ahead, I want Yeah. So,
so this guy, Bobby Axley is a great character, and
he's a you know, hedge fund multi billionaire savage, right,
And when one of the guys on the show is
describing him and he says, Bobby Axle Rod, you can't
get to him. He sees the whole board. He sees
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the moves, he sees the people, he sees the culture,
the conversations everything. I think the best quarterbacks in the NFL,
the really true, really franchise guys see the whole board.
They know, of course, they know the offense, they know
the defense. They know that the old lines struggling because
they don't like the coach. They know that the dvs
aren't getting along. They know that the equipment managers daughters
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in the hospital. They know. They see the whole board,
and um that was the first player I got to
play with who saw the whole but I got to
back him up for four years. Person saw the whole board.
I'm glad you said that, because another quarterback that may
see the whole board better than anybody had his his
guy come out and here's what he had to say.
The interesting thing I think here is uh. And this
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is just me an outsider looking in. It was like
Bill never really think his you know, emotions or feelings
never evolved with age. Um. This is Guerrero talking to
to the Herald. I think in time with Tom, and
as Tom got into his late thirties or early forties,
I think Bill was still trying to treat him like
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that twenty year old kid that he drafted, and all
of the players I think realized was different. He's older,
so he should be treated differently, and all of the players,
none of them would have cared that he was treated differently.
I think that that was such a Bill thing. He's
never evolved, So you can't treat someone who's in their
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forties like they're in their twenties. It doesn't work. Now,
this is obviously Alex Guerrero, who is uh, you know,
Tom Brady's trainer um in terms of health wise and
and taking care of him part of the whole TV
twelve situation. You have a unique relationship with some very
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very special players as well. My question to you would be, first,
do you find it appropriate that Alex found himself being
quoted in an article one week out from him and
the much anticipated uh matchup of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
And then the second part of that would be do
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you do you do you buy this what Alex is
saying based upon what the uniqueness of a relationship between
a trainer and the player. You know, it seems as
though this only comes out if Tom Brady is okay
with they're coming out. That's the key part right there.
This is this is an approved comment as far as
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I'm which means and the timing of this this is
savage right here, I mean from the whole football world
talking about this because Tom Brady doesn't have to answer this.
You've got a press conference this week and he can
just say, you know, that's those are Alex's thoughts. I'm
focused on the game and blah blah blah, and Bill
Belichick can do his thing. I don't you know, I
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don't worry about comments outside the building, and you know
he can do what The reality is, everybody in that
New England locker rooms talking about this. They're talking about
it all week, guaranteed, and that's coming up, and then
the wives read it, and then they're talking about it
at home. This is a thing in New England. It's
got to be. And so I don't. I don't it's
appropriate because he's on team, he's a business partner. It's
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not a cove to be appropriate for me to say
something controversial about a guy that I trade in the offseason.
Absolutely not. But that's not the relationship they have. And
and as far as that actual, I forget the comment
by Alex just the subject matter. When I look at this,
I mean, I got to go back to who Bill
Bilichick is. He's in he's a military do you go
naval academy. He studies war, he studies the great General's right.
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I don't know if Sean McVeigh does that, but Bill
Belichick does that. In the military. You don't have some
awesome sniper and let him kind of roll around the
way that he wants to roll around. That's just not
how it works, no matter how good he is no
matter how, it doesn't matter. Disney might make a movie
about the guy later, right, but the military is not,
you know, producing it. And so that works. I mean,
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this is a dynasty. We can talk about Tom brady
success leaving New England, but just in the conversation with Tom,
Brady was still a Patriot. It's the best dynasty we've
ever seen in football in this sport may never happen again.
And so it worked. And so if you put yourself
in belichick shoes, So let's say you start caving to
this about five years ago, and he started building around
Brady with no certainty that Brady's gonna play until he's
forty four or forty eight or whatever. He's gonna play until, right.
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If you just kind of do that and then Brady retires,
then what you go back to the way it was.
So for Belichick he had to continue to go with
what's working and catch some flak for this couple of
years and then maybe he's got his next guy in
in mac Jones and he'll just continue on the Patriot
way and that will survive. And Brady being Brady, is
got himself into a fantastic situation. Hey, George, Man, we
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appreciate you coming on. Anything you want to promote talk
about before we let you go. Yeah, man, t J
and I are going to be working with some guys
this offseason. I'm fired up, man. We gotta we got
a big offseason. Quarterbacks and whiteouts coming out. My boy
Hoops is the best receiver coach in the country. Appreciate
you guys all the way to the NFL. Guys, I
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appreciate my invite to train your linebackers down. Jordan, I've
told this dude more than once. I appreciate more than
wants to come on out. You know he's busy. LaVar
is uh a man of many things to do, busy.
But Jordan, man, we appreciate your time. Y'all. Go tune
into the game. Jordan is calling it. He's gonna kill it.
(37:18):
Telling what game you're calling. I'm actually up here at
home Depot or whatever they call this place now. Well
stuff is the stub Hub now No, it's like, uh,
it used to be the home Deepost. Dignity went from
home Depot to stop Hub to Dignity. Help he calling
the San Diego State game. Jordan. We appreciate your Saturday man,
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take care of man. Be safe, all right, bro, we
gotta get to my man. Ilo trend alright, fellas. Let's
start at Soldier Field in Chicago. Number twelve, Notre Dame
taking on eighteen thranked Wisconsin, and Notre Dame, after a
slow offensive start, finally breaking through drops back linebacker Blitz
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coming throws high and far down the near sideline to
Kevin Austin to the fod catches into the two touchdown
Notre Dame. That's Paul Burmeister with the call on w SBT.
Notre Dame has attended three lead over Wisconsin. They're down
to nineteen seconds left to play in the first half.
Number two Georgia continues to be all over Vanderbilt. Here's
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Scott Howard on WSB to go, we run a reverse
on the toss of Ladin McConkey. He's got all day
fifty ten five, got a block at the three and
skippers into the ends on just inside the pilot for
his second touchdown this morning. They are at halftime now
and Georgia's up thirty eight to nothing over Vanderbilt, and
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LaVar still wearing a smile because Penn State hosting Villanova
Clifford class takes the snap back, deliversdown field. He's got
Washington's five Parker thirty touchdown Washington. And just to give
you a your listeners a peek behind the scenes here
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Steve Jones the call on w q w K. That
was actually not LaVar screaming in the background live. He
is so big time back there that they actually loop
in him shouting hysterically in the background during their actual
radio broadcast. It's sort of am I have earned the
right to do that? Stick City is a place Plexico,
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That's right. Seld Sean Clifford of Penn State completed ten
of four teen passes in that first half for two
hundred and twenty six yards. He threw two fifty two
yard touchdown passes in that first half. Busy Saturday in
the NFL, Steelers linebacker t J. Watt downgraded to out
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for Sunday's game against the Bengals. Dallas Cowboys head coach
Mike McCarthy says Cowboy linebacker Keian O'Neil will not play
on Monday against the Eagles after Neil tested positive for COVID.
The Eagles meanwhile activated tight end Zach Ertz from the
COVID list. He will play on Monday night football against
the Cowboys at the Ryder Cup. Day three underway and
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Team USA continuing to dominate. They have a commanding nine
three lead over Europe. And finally, we actually have some
NBA news today, Seam's Charanti reporting that most of the
players on the Philadelphia seventy sixers roster, including Joel Embiide,
wanted to take a jet to Los Angeles this week
to meet with disgruntled star Ben Simmons, but were informed
(40:33):
not to come, and that the three time All Star
did not want to meet with them. Snitching somebody somebody.
He don't want us to come out here. I'm snitching.
They're trying to assassinate his character. Yeah, that's that's so
disingenuous right there. I'll appreciate you with the updates, man,
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you got it. I'd take a private jet to meet
you guys any two. Well, we appreciate that they just
wanted to come to l Just say you can meet
with me and then stand me up. Just let us
get out there for crazy on that expense account, you
got it. Yeah. And Ben Simmons, he like, I don't
want none of that. No, you can't come see me,
but he's playing the victims. So when we come back,
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it's up on game or down on game. We're gonna
see how we've done last week, in the previous weeks,
and how we're gonna do moving forward. We gotta see.
We gotta keep a track of this, an account of
how guys are doing. Unfortunately, you know, so Ryan isn't
here today. Get your mind right and see if you're
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So last week LaVar went three or three or four
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on picks six and one on the over undertotal. Yeah,
t J, three or four on picks one in six
in totals, crushing plaques one in six and picks and
three and four on totals. So hey, bro clock is
right twice today. Let's keep it going. Let's go. Let's
go week. This week we have the football team at
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the Bills, who are saved favored by seven and a
half points with an over under of forty five and
a half. I'm going under under. Are you picking the
Bills are gonna win? Who are you going with the
seven point spread? You taking? Well, I'm taking the under
on the totals. So the totals forty five and a half,
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I'm taking the under on that they'll cover. They'll I'm
taking I'm taking up we'll cover that seven. I'm taking
over in the Bills. Yep, I'm taking under end the Bills. Yeah,
there you go, all right. Next up, we have these
Saints at the Patriots, who are favored by three with
an over under of forty two and a half. Forty
two and a half. They will go over that. What
what are the Saints favor by three points? Yeah, they'll
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cover that. I'm taking the Patriots and under I'm taking.
I'm taking the over and the Saint Yeah, of course
you are, because you want to be right like me.
Go ahead, come on, But got the Bengals at the Steelers,
favored by the Steelers are favored by three points over
under a forty three Oh, that's gonna be under. And honestly,
I think the Bills are going to knock off my Steelers.
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The Bills play the football team, the Bengals. M he said,
the Bills. I just had to let him know because
I'm on one this week. I'm winning. The Bengals will
cover and it will go over. I'm going over and
I'm taking. Of course, of course you're taking the Steelers.
Of course. See this is where I separate myself from y'all.
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Go ahead, all right, Buckaneers, it rams over under fifty
five and a half with the Bucks favored by one point,
I'm going to take Oh, the Rams are gonna win
this game and the points will not be as many
as they think. This is what be a defensive struggle.
I'm taking the under and I'm taking the Rams in
the wind, I'm taking the Rams and I'm taking over.
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The Buck's defense has not been well, and neither has
the Rams. The Rams and over. I'm taking the under
and I'm taking Tampa Bay. Is that it is? That?
It bow real quick packers at niners minus three over
under fifty, minus three over under fifty. Take the point
and take the over. I'm I'm taking it over, and
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I'm taking the forty niners. I'm taking the niners in
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