October 1, 2025 • 31 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open the show with some final thoughts on Week 4 of the NFL! Then they take a look back at their pre-draft rankings to give a sort of "report card" as we sit a quarter of the way through the season. Later, the guys start looking ahead to Week 5, setting the stage for Thursday night's matchup between the Rams and 49ers!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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This is I want your Flex with Dan Bayer and
Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
And now let's get your flex ond Here's Dan Bayer
and Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Welcome in too. I want your Flex your midweek episode.
Get Mike kat Swollendome. You can find me at Dan
Byer on Fox and Ian Roddy is the executive producer
at Ian Roddy Underscore. We're not doing any big game hunting,
big name hunting, but there are big names that we're
talking about, Mike Harmon. Because we're kind of a quarter
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into the season now with these seventeen game schedule, things
a little bit different. But we're between weeks four and five,
and boy, how things can change.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Four weeks from what we planned for in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, the wishing, wanting, hoping, the cautionary tales and mountains
of injuries just change everything in a hurry. On you right,
we go back to the standard. You know, for me
being of a certain age, I'm an old man Ian
may not know the reference, but the old Ronco products
dan forget it, set it and forget it. Was the line,
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all right, that this guy has been great, he's going
to continue to be great, leave him alone. And we
certainly had a lot of that. I think coming into
the draft, seats like the Cliff's not there yet, or
guys that were coming back off injury. I look it
right over at Christian McCaffrey, wondering about what his role
was going to be. Target counts versus rushing attempts, et cetera.
(01:47):
He's third, he's tied for second with forty three targets,
so calling that one right, but the production being there
week in week out, and for me it became the
do I want to go down this road? Do I
trust it? For a seventeen week season? To this point,
I look foolish cause I pushed him towards the back
end of the first round, even though I thought the
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receiving side would be big. But it's just that kind
of thing. I'm like, all right, who's hitting the cliff,
who's hitting the wall, who's not Derrick Henry had a
big week one, so everybody going haha, see he's there,
He's not done yet. And then three straight weeks between
fumbling and ineffectiveness, like did the cliff come? Is it
the bad offensive line? Right? Ronnie Stanley gets hurt. Boy,
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They've got a mountain of injuries there, top name players,
but in Baltimore put all of that to say dan
Ian through four weeks, it's the things I wish I
knew on Draft Day today.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, I would say there's about thirty three percent of
your top fifteen picks that have not panned out or
are not available to you currently or they will not
be available for you for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
When you look at that's that's five guys in the
top fifteen. And I know on the last podcast to
talk about how it is, how exciting it is to
watch your big name guys. I've heard more people complain
about their fantasy seasons in the first four weeks. Now,
I know everybody complains depending on perspective, sure, but people
just complaining on if you're I don't know, in a spot.
(03:23):
Let's say you decided to say, all right, I'm not
going to go wide or I'm not going to go
running backs, a load up on the wide receivers and
you take Ceedee Lamb and Brian Thomas Junior, you know,
like I mean, so CEDI's now hurt with the high
ankle sprain, Brian Thomas Junior is nowhere to be found
in so many places, like it stinks.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And these are top fifteen.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Guys let alone, and even talk about Malik Neighbors knee injury,
who could have been possibly teamed up with Brian Thomas Junior.
I did so many mock drafts where I thought I
would maybe have Neighbors and Thomas and try to pan
things out, and that would have been that would have
been snake ice for me. So I know that there
are people like in this position. And that's that's a
thirty three percent miss rate for the top fifteen four
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weeks into the suit.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's brutal, Right, Joe Burrow goes down. Jamar Chase is
an afterthought against the Jets, not that you're expecting him,
all right, I'm sorry, you know, against the Broncos, you're
not expecting a ton. I saw this stat and this
is let me pull this up, because this is just
the specificity of this is just absolutely insane in terms
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of his production against Patrick Curtan, And we talked about
it last time out right because I had Chase in
the cold source without knowing this data, just eye test.
He allowed one reception for eight yards across thirteen coverage
matchups with Chase on Monday night. Zero receptions on ten
matchups in man coverage for his career fifty four career routes,
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four catches, thirty five yards.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's crazy when you think.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
About how dominant Jamar Chase is, how many one on
one battles you just throw it up and let him
go win. That it's that much uncertain you might as
well start making a bust for him already.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, and the and the stats previously show that it's
just not all Jake Browning's fault, like even when they
when they've matched up previously. And it's why, it's it's
why he's Defensive Player of the Year, Patrick Sartan, it's
it's it's crazy on how he has his number and
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for to take Chase as your w R one outside
of the Jacksonville game, it's just been complete disappointment and
I don't know how it gets better. I I have
no idea the I felt like. So the Jake Browning
performance that he had Week four against Denver on Monday Night,
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I think is in direct correlation to what happened in
Week three and kind of what happened in week two
when he replaced Joe Burrow. It's like, don't turn the
football over, right, Like just don't turn the football over. Well,
if you have that mindset, you're not going to be
able to take risks. I think Denver was probably jacked
up at home as well. But I just I don't
know where the I don't know if there is a
breakthrough in Cincinnati. So if you had Jamar Chase one
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point one on your draft board and took him number
one overall, you're.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Going to continue to play him.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I don't know how you could trade him because what
is the value that you're going to get for him.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, you're in a tough spot.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, it's tough. You look at the overall I'm looking
at Fantasy pros for the draft board as it went down,
Chase number one, Okay, two and three, Robinson and Gibbs great,
Number four, CD Lamb gets hurt. Number five is Saquon Barkley.
He's currently RB thirteen. Justin Jefferson was sixth he is
currently wide receiver sixteen. And with him you had the
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questions of, all right, Addison was suspended for three weeks
and what the quarterback position was going to be this
year year, But you just figured the throw it up
and let him go get it, just like Sam Darnold
in a year ago was gonna work. Not yet, Neighbors
being hurt, Nico Collins in a world of hurt with
what Houston's become. He was eighth overall, McCaffrey nine, I'm
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on Ross sin Brown ten. You want to talk about
value proposition, Derrick Henry Phoka Nikua, Brian Thomas, Ashton Genty,
Drake London. Genty finally has the big breakout game, so okay,
you have hope that there's better days ahead. But then
they lose their their best offensive lineman at the end
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of that game. Yes, right, Cole Miller goes down, and
I just.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Don't I don't know how many Raider games are gonna
play out like that. Sure, I've got Genty on my team.
There may be one that plays out like that against
the Colts coming up in Week five. Then they got
the Titans, you know after that, but you're a you're
in a division with some good defenses when we're talking
about skedwel wise and I just don't know on how
many of those games are going to play out like that.
(08:04):
And you mentioned the offensive line just for gent I
have questions as well. It's a gosh, it's a funky
like like Pooka Nica Poka Nicoua would be your first
overall pick. I think if he just scored one more touchdown,
it's the only got one on the year, Like that's
that's the only drawback. But you look at his numbers
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and the the the part that you salivate over targets
and then the actual catches, and then you look at
the yards and you're like, my goodness. So if you're
in a PPR league, you probably even have felt the
effects of what's happened with the touchdowns. But that I'm
talking number one overall with with Puka's season so far,
for how good he's been.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
PPR leagues are half PPR right now, he is number one.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Really yeah yeah, one touchdown.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
With one touchdown, he's got eighty eight and a half points.
James Cook eighty or eighty five. I'm sorry, eighty five.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So it's jon On that Listen is sitting.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
He's fourth amongst running backs.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oh god, so you got Co's only got two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So Cook, then Taylor, then McCaffrey, then Bijeon, and the
difference between McCaffrey and Bijon is a point, okay, and
then three points up to Taylor who doesn't catch the
ball at all and has had two monster games and
two nah all right, eleven points in week one, twelve
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points in week four, sandwiched with two massive games in between,
and then you got Cook eighteen point seven, twenty six,
nineteen point three, twenty one to that point with pukin
Nikua eighteen. I mean your your low point is seventeen
and a half PPR.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The crazy thing is Devonte Adams hasn't been bad, right,
like so like I played Devonte Anams currently twelfth, yeah,
like you know it gets in the end zone against
the Colts this past weekend, scored against the Titans, Like
you're like, all right, okay, all right, let's do it.
As three touchdowns on the season, thirty five targets so
far for Adams. Poka's got forty two catches to Adams seventeen,
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and I'm satisfied with DeVonta Adams performance so far.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's crazy and how good book it a gool has been.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, just absurdly consistent, and I'll take the l on that.
Like I with Adam showing up in the Stafford stuff,
as we spoke about on the last episode, it was
one where I'm like, I love him, I love the player,
but I don't know how this play is. If something
happens to Stafford or he finds the new apple of
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his eye with Devonte Adams instead, everybody wins.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's you just kick yourself. I was the
same way I did so many mock drafts. I was
sitting at eight overall, and it's in our ten team
league where if Puka was there at eight, I wasn't
taking him, and honestly, if he was there at thirteen,
I wasn't taking Aim.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean, and.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
There was no there was no strategy where I would
I would if say, ceedee Lamb fell to me at eight,
I would take it, and then I'd say, okay, I'll
take Jonathan Taylor or Josh Jacobs at thirteen.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
When I was.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Doing my no running back thing as it talked about
in a previous episode. I was doing mylik neighbors in
Brian Thomas. I was like, I'm just I'm not gonna
have Poka the Cool on my team. And it's a
lesson that I need to learn of. Again, it's not
about the names. It's just about the players and the value.
And maybe if I took a little bit more value
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into what the names were, maybe that would have changed
my mind. But man, I completely missed like you did, Mike,
I was not a believer.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I wonder if part of it is like a subconscious
thing with Pooka about how the fact that he went
what was he Wasn't he like a fifth round pick
in the in the actual NFL draft, not fantasy. I
wonder if that has someone to do with it, Like
obviously Stefan Diggs I think, was also a fifth round pick,
and you know it took a little while for him
to end up shaking the stink of that. I wonder
if that's something a subconscious thing with Puco where we
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just don't If his name was Marvin Harrison Junior and
he was in an identical situation, I feel like we
would view him.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Well, he would have to catch the ball repeatedly. Yeah, well,
bad example. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Marvin Harrison Junior. Tell
your dad to leave me alone.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, you don't want to mess with scene, No, you
do not. I think Puka's touchdown totals scare people. Yeah, yeah,
it scared me as well. Like I'm thinking, like, okay,
for a guy who doesn't score touchdowns, if he takes
a step back where I mean, it's it's not like
he's gonna have nine touchdowns in the season. And that's
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the I guess that's the thing that it has held
true because he's only got one so far this season,
but last year, in the eleven games he played, he
had three. He was great in the games that he
did end up suiting up year before, he had six.
Maybe it's the touchdowns that are that are the reason
why I'm not too worried about where he was drafted,
you know anymore. But man, like it's yeah, he's he's
(13:09):
just been really good.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah. I mean once once we get a year or
two remove from a draft and a guy's in a system,
I'm done with it. Like I think that still applies
to quarterbacks and maybe a little bit, Uh you know,
which is why people still want to fight about rock Perty.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, well, I think it's size and if you want
to say that with Perty as well, but I think
like Puka's size is something where it's easy to say,
I'll just use his counterpart, DeVonta Adams. You know, DeVonta
Adams is gonna you know, his catch radious is enormous.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're like, all right, Pooka's.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Maybe not that big, and maybe that's a reason. I
don't know if it moved people off of Jackson Smith
and Jigba. Shouldn't have been, because he's been really good
to start the year. But maybe maybe the size of Puka,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, Jass ends one of those guys that if we
we call out, you know, guys that got pushed down
draft board. He was twenty eighth on average in drafts,
behind Allen and Jackson. I always love to do that
just because we get we get some country music in
I'm a work in progress that's become a theme song.
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But they went ahead of Jackson Smith and Jigba in
the drafts. He went twenty eighth overall, currently sitting at
I believe eighth in half PPR leagues, which is where
we normally put things in to put it in perspective.
Through four weeks though, on the strength of one monster game,
Trey Tucker's ninth amongst wide receivers, so it's just and
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he had a big three point two against the Bears,
so it's still a lot of room for variants. So
we're looking for just consistency, which you know for JSN,
he's going to get his targets. Sam Darnold's been every
bit the part. But yeah, that draft board, I mean,
Lad McConkey was twenty fourth. Keenan Allen coming back. As
we discussed last week, everybody can go download the podcast
(14:57):
and check that out of how much the pecking order
changes by the veteran coming back into that room.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Let me let me ask you guys this trade question,
just hypothetically, if you had Jamar Chase, would you trade
him for Ashton gent Y?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, I would, I think so, Yeah, I'll take I'll
take the touches. Even though the oat line play is suspect.
Gino's been terrible with taking care of the football. Yeah,
but I got a guy that, unless he gets hurt,
is gonna touch it fifteen to twenty times a game. Guaranteed. Yeah,
I would make that all day.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, so that we've already dropped Chase to the back
end of the first round, right, I mean like for
of of where you're picking him or where you have him,
like for the.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Guy that was one one overall.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, yeah, I just can't. I can't just can't trust it, right, Like,
even if they go into the trade market, let's just
play the hypotheticals for a second. With Jamar Chase and
t Higgins going forward, who the hell's coming in that
you trust? That's suddenly? I mean it would be interesting. Yeah,
it would be interesting to watch either Captain Kirk or
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the moonball of Russell Wilson show up. But are you
trusting that that's going to connect every week?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Again? I think Zach.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I think Zach Taylor put the reins on him, like
I really think he did. And again it's Denver's defense,
so it's a different story. But I think they were
like they got crushed in Minnesota and the turnovers were
big and I couldn't hold on of the football. I
think they're like, all right, let's hold on of the football.
Let's not turn this thing over. And that's and then
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Fantasy Football players are the ones who have to watch it.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Blake conservatively to a whole other point.
And that goes back to one of our fantasy darlings
that I was I had on my board as a
back end first round pick, and that's Chase Brown of
the same squad. Yeah right, And we look at it overall.
I mean I think we were both all, I mean
all three of us higher on him. He was our
went twenty first. Su're all just ahead of Bucky Irving,
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who's been fantastic, and just behind Josh Jacobs, who well
we've already lamented his ability to gut yet the goal line.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, And the other thing is the Bengals, you know,
at least on Monday Night, didn't have the football very often.
But it also means you're not moving the chains. You're
not you know, there were two of eleven on third down,
and I think that could be a reason why of
you're just like, all right, I'm not gonna we're not
gonna turn this over, we're not gonna do anything.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But when you're down twenty one to three and a.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Half, there's nowhere to go but up. And the Bengals
didn't even do that in the second half. So all right,
there's a look at some of the top end of
your pre draft rankings and where we own where we
are now through week four, Let's take a look at
some of the sleepers that we've got, plus just to
sneak peek ahead to Thursday night's NFC West showdown to
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start the week between the Niners and Rams. That's next
here on I want your flex, all right, Week five,
We'll start on Thursday night with the Niners and Rams.
Tricky spots, especially for San Francisco having to take on
LA on a short week, expected to be shorthanded considering
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some of the injuries that they suffered. Not necessarily sure
Mike on how many forty nine ers will be missing
the game, But brock Purdy had a bit of a
setback with his toe injury, and at the time of
this recording his status up in the air.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Same thing with a couple of his favorite targets.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So that's a team that put George Kittle on IR
for this week, and the exact reason was for this
week because they didn't think that Kittle would be healthy
enough to play week four, and they weren't going to
play him week five. On a short week from the
Sunday to a Thursday. So with that hamstring injury that
he had, they just decided to put him on IR
guaranteeing that he's going to miss the next four games,
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then would have a little bit of time from week
five to week six to maybe return. Now you're here
on sure weekend, the Niners are banged up again, A
tough spot for a road game against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, as we sit here and there's there's hope that
party plays. If so, he's a high end two. But
you're also talking about all the weapons. The only one
that you could trust right now is the double digit
target you're getting week to week from Christian McCaffrey in
the receiving game. It's a bit of a dice roll.
I think if I'm playing in a daily league, maybe
I'm looking at a guy as like like a born
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deep for the dollar play just as a all right,
everybody else is banged up and might be limited even
if they are available. But on the San Francisco side,
I mean it's a no go. On the Rams side
with no Bosa there, I'm feeling a little bit better
that Matthew Stafford's going to be able to stand up
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upright and make plays for me there. So again looking
at a high end two because we're not passing for
three hundred plus yards again against this defense, even without Bosa,
but looking at you know, the rest of the squad
will play our two wide receivers that we've talked about
a lot. When you get to Nikua and with DeVante Adams.
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Maybe Adams takes a little bit of a hit, but
still gonna be no worse than a back end one.
That's it. We got two ones on the field for
you here running back position. Kyn Williams still the number
one and undisputed, so he gets back in as a
high end two. But that gives us enough starters, I think,
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And depending on how the quarterback situation plays out in
San Francisco, maybe the Rams become a little bit of
a sleeper defense to get after it. But I think
I might be pushing a little too hard there.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
That's on Thursday nights, our week five matchup, where I
assume the Rams are going to be wearing their rivalry.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Jerseys, Rivalry baby their own black jerseys.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Again, I thought the Seahawks and Cardinals are gonna wear
their rivalry jerseys last Thursday. Now we're finding out only
one team is wearing them, all right, stupid concept, NFL.
You also just made a dumber because of that fact
that only one team's gonna wear them.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Means more than one team didn't. Yeah, we have nine rivals.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No, so stupid. Oh my goodness. And I don't even
think I sound like get off my No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I just think it's like, why would one team wear
a rivalry uniform?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
No, it's just a logic problem that you're you're opposing here.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I just I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
We're either rivals or were not.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, how about the.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Like the Broncos are said, like, hey, it's a Monday
night game, we're gonna wear all Navy, kind of like
maybe a nod to the old John Elway Super Bowl
teams thirty two and thirty three.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, okay, that's a way to do it.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You don't have to make a whole new uniform or
then idiots like me will buy the mini helmet and
that's how they make money off of it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Anyway, But that mini helmet collection is glorious.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh just it.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Actually, when I saw that, I'm like crap, Like, now
there's more helmets.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I have to try.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yes, I thought I was done.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I told you guys, I got the Bills one in Buffalo,
and then I went to here's the great thing about
the Buffalo story again, high Mark Stadium, straight out of
nineteen seventy eight, like it's straight there. Went to the
Bill's team shop. That's where I bought the Rivalry Bill's helmet.
I walk out to go to my seat, there's a
trailer like a trailer sitting inside the grounds like I've
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where your tickets are. They're also selling Bill stuff and
they had the red Jim Kelly Thurman Thomas Bill's helmet. Well,
I've already bought this other one. I can't buy the
other one, and I do already have a red one,
but it's not the newer model of the red one,
and I put a blue face mask on it. The
point being, again, I wasn't going to load up on
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mini helmets, but I bought the Rivalry one first, so
I stood. I don't want to say I'm stuck with that,
but I just stayed with that purchase.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Now we'll augmented for the holidays. I'm not buying you
another shelf, though, I'll buy you the helmet.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
The Bills I think are going to wear their rivalry
uniforms against the Patriots. I think I think that's what
the plan is. But we shall see on Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
More ways to get into our pockets.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Dan, Yeah, I do think that one of the best
uniforms in football is the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
George Pickens looked pretty good in it.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I am curious They've got Ian's Jets coming up in
week five. I'm really curious to see on how Pickens
does in his role now. Is target number one for
Dak Prescott? Was it game flow that allowed him to
get the game that he had. Jake Ferguson has been
a popular target for Dak, but Pickens let him with
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eleven targets in that game against the Packers on Sunday night.
I'm high on Pickens up to a point. There's also
going to be a point where Ceedee Lamb does come back.
So if you do have George Pickens, maybe now's the
time to sell high on them.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I would say this. I do like the fact that
you saw it on the sideline. There was a great
video going around on that big pass play down the
sideline of Ceedee Lamb just losing his mind before the
balls throwing. It's like here, it is touchdown here, touchdown here.
So like whatever's going on, whatever Pickens history has, I'm
not going to say that it's one hundred percent it's
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not going to reappear. Things seem to be right right
in that situation. Teammates cheering for each other, Dak trusting
that he's going to be able to go up and
get it, which I think is he just needed the
love right and Arthur Smith's offense and the way they
ran thing in Pittsburgh that was not happening, whereas now
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he's getting fed, he's being integrated. Even with Ceedee Lamb healthy,
You're still looking at Pickens head back to back fifteen
point games before this breakout in week four. So I'm
bullish that, at least for a little while longer this
roles and it owes to your preseason prediction, Dan, I
don't think we thought the defense would be quite as bad,
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but that Dak Prescott would go and get it and
show the quarterback he is. And right now he's having
himself a time.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, he's he is leading the NFL and passing yards
so far through four weeks of the season is Dak Prescott.
They got Ian's Jets. I don't know how much of a.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Defense the Jets will be able to put up against.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Dak for Dallas.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
What happened on Monday night to the Jets, but but
still should be should be interesting matchup. By the way,
Cowboys Jets is a matchup that because again AFC against NFC,
we only see once every four years. I have a
tough time remembering other Cowboys Jets matchups.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
One comes to mind for me, and it was Sam
Darnold's return from Mono and it was Adam Is his
first win with the case. Yeah, all the wins.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, he showed up on all the graphics. Uh after
the Monday night affair because he was the last Jets
coach to start hing four.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, not good company, both ag I'm just making that
connection now about that, Oh God, don't get me down
a rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Send him spiraling here. We triggered him by bringing up
by getting into a Gase game.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Now, who are some intriguing guys you think are entering
week five or out of the first quarter of the season.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I picked pick and what do you guys like?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think I'll grab a couple of the running backs.
We talked about him before in the last episode, the
rookie running backs having their time. But the thing that's
most intriguing for Omarion Hampton for me going forward is
how much of a part of the passing game he's
become and if he's going to be that active and
give you the bonus because you're looking at eleven catches
(26:57):
in the last two weeks. Now we're in bonus array, sure, right,
And he's what a bowling ball I guess would be
the because I can't use the Juggernaut. I already got Scatabo.
I'm assigning everybody a Marvel equivalent eventually, but well, because
then I can create trading cards and make money. But
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all of that to say, he only had twelve carries
but had the fifty four yard sprint, Like there's just
something there. And we know how Harbaugh wants to play football,
so his role will be huge and Cleveland stinks. But
Judkins is the guy standalone going forward. Twenty one carries
(27:38):
eighty two yards. He had eighteen for ninety four against
what we thought was a big Green Bay defense. So
a guy that they're becoming comfortable with making the bell
Cow and whenever we can find one of those in Fantasy,
I'll jump on his back and let him carry me through.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Absolutely, Ian, who do you love? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I had two guys who actually made their return this week.
One you guys alluded to him earlier in Xavier Worthy
over one hundred yards from scrimmage, So that was big
ye at thirty eight rushing yards with eighty three receiving yards.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, it's good to have someone to carry the ball
that isn't Patrick Mahomes, right of course.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
And speaking of Mahomes, I mean that's a pretty good
guy to have throwing the ball to you. And you
know he's presumably his top target going forward now, so
love Worthy going forward. And then the other one's Jordan Addison,
who also made his return from a suspension, and he
had over one hundred receiving yard.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Did you think he the first got back? Do you
think he didn't do any sprints while he was off?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yah? Because that was a joke. Yeah, clearly. I'm sure
his his his speed will return in time. And even
with that getting caught from behind, he still had a
pretty good Fantasy day fifteen points.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I thought he lost his balance a little bit.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
So It wasn't a speed thing.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It was a balance Yeah. I did.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I did, And now I know Patrick Wilson's a fast runner,
but I think that at least give a break to Addison.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
So he did sprints, he just wasn't doing his balance exercise.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, always work for balance and definition, no
question about it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I'm going to give you one other name then we'll
wrap this up. Stefan Diggs one hundred yards against good
shout out the Panthers, seven targets. Mike talked about how
much he loves Drake May right now Hunter Henry getting
maybe a lot of the love getting into the end zone.
But if you're looking for a reliable guy down the stretch,
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and I do think that the Patriots again, they are
five turnovers away from I think being three to one.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
If they don't.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
If they turn over the ball twice against the Steelers
instead of five times, I think they win that game.
But if the Patriots are going to be a wild
card contender in the AFC, I think that you're going
to see Drake May latch onto Stefan Diggs seems to
be okay from New scenery. Off the injury. The whole
(29:59):
deal look out for Stefan Diggs at least the rest
of the way.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I like that. I like that a lot uh seven
targets a couple of times minimum of three all we
can ask for and speak to his opportunity fellaws. That's
what we've always we've always said with this podcast, you
and I Dan, for as long as we've been doing this,
touches and consistency of targets, throw the outlier out. Give
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me a guy that is going to become a steady opportunist.
And when we're talking about Drake May still growing and
looking better by the week. Yeah, we met culture. Thing
we talked about before the year. In the AFC East,
you got one team that seems to have found theirs Ian.
Your guys are still looking. But you have the greatest
(30:44):
viral meme of twenty twenty five, hands down.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
The dance on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, you can never take that away.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Well you can't, you can't. Come on. That was great.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I got a coach yelling at the sideline.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I got yeah, oh that's all right, all right, that's
it for I want your flags.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Hope things go well for you on Thursday night, and
we'll be back for a brand new episode on Friday
to get your set for all the matchups, but again
plan ahead. Four teams on by Packers, Steelers, Bears, Falcons
all getting arrest early on in the season. So for
Mike Harmen and Ian Roddy, I'm Dan Bayer. Can't wait
to talk to you next time right here, and I
want your flags.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You want experience during your football season, Well, buckle up,
sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience in the world.
This is I want your Flex with Dan Bayer and
Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
To starts and sits. The guys help you make those
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
And now let's get your flex ond Here's Dan Bayer
and Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Welcome in too. I want your Flex your midweek episode.
Get Mike kat Swollendome. You can find me at Dan
Byer on Fox and Ian Roddy is the executive producer
at Ian Roddy Underscore. We're not doing any big game hunting,
big name hunting, but there are big names that we're
talking about, Mike Harmon. Because we're kind of a quarter
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into the season now with these seventeen game schedule, things
a little bit different. But we're between weeks four and five,
and boy, how things can change.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Four weeks from what we planned for in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, the wishing, wanting, hoping, the cautionary tales and mountains
of injuries just change everything in a hurry. On you right,
we go back to the standard. You know, for me
being of a certain age, I'm an old man Ian
may not know the reference, but the old Ronco products
dan forget it, set it and forget it. Was the line,
(01:26):
all right, that this guy has been great, he's going
to continue to be great, leave him alone. And we
certainly had a lot of that. I think coming into
the draft, seats like the Cliff's not there yet, or
guys that were coming back off injury. I look it
right over at Christian McCaffrey, wondering about what his role
was going to be. Target counts versus rushing attempts, et cetera.
(01:47):
He's third, he's tied for second with forty three targets,
so calling that one right, but the production being there
week in week out, and for me it became the
do I want to go down this road? Do I
trust it? For a seventeen week season? To this point,
I look foolish cause I pushed him towards the back
end of the first round, even though I thought the
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receiving side would be big. But it's just that kind
of thing. I'm like, all right, who's hitting the cliff,
who's hitting the wall, who's not Derrick Henry had a
big week one, so everybody going haha, see he's there,
He's not done yet. And then three straight weeks between
fumbling and ineffectiveness, like did the cliff come? Is it
the bad offensive line? Right? Ronnie Stanley gets hurt. Boy,
(02:31):
They've got a mountain of injuries there, top name players,
but in Baltimore put all of that to say dan
Ian through four weeks, it's the things I wish I
knew on Draft Day today.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, I would say there's about thirty three percent of
your top fifteen picks that have not panned out or
are not available to you currently or they will not
be available for you for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
When you look at that's that's five guys in the
top fifteen. And I know on the last podcast to
talk about how it is, how exciting it is to
watch your big name guys. I've heard more people complain
about their fantasy seasons in the first four weeks. Now,
I know everybody complains depending on perspective, sure, but people
just complaining on if you're I don't know, in a spot.
(03:23):
Let's say you decided to say, all right, I'm not
going to go wide or I'm not going to go
running backs, a load up on the wide receivers and
you take Ceedee Lamb and Brian Thomas Junior, you know,
like I mean, so CEDI's now hurt with the high
ankle sprain, Brian Thomas Junior is nowhere to be found
in so many places, like it stinks.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And these are top fifteen.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Guys let alone, and even talk about Malik Neighbors knee injury,
who could have been possibly teamed up with Brian Thomas Junior.
I did so many mock drafts where I thought I
would maybe have Neighbors and Thomas and try to pan
things out, and that would have been that would have
been snake ice for me. So I know that there
are people like in this position. And that's that's a
thirty three percent miss rate for the top fifteen four
(04:04):
weeks into the suit.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's brutal, Right, Joe Burrow goes down. Jamar Chase is
an afterthought against the Jets, not that you're expecting him,
all right, I'm sorry, you know, against the Broncos, you're
not expecting a ton. I saw this stat and this
is let me pull this up, because this is just
the specificity of this is just absolutely insane in terms
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of his production against Patrick Curtan, And we talked about
it last time out right because I had Chase in
the cold source without knowing this data, just eye test.
He allowed one reception for eight yards across thirteen coverage
matchups with Chase on Monday night. Zero receptions on ten
matchups in man coverage for his career fifty four career routes,
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four catches, thirty five yards.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's crazy when you think.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
About how dominant Jamar Chase is, how many one on
one battles you just throw it up and let him
go win. That it's that much uncertain you might as
well start making a bust for him already.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, and the and the stats previously show that it's
just not all Jake Browning's fault, like even when they
when they've matched up previously. And it's why, it's it's
why he's Defensive Player of the Year, Patrick Sartan, it's
it's it's crazy on how he has his number and
(05:30):
for to take Chase as your w R one outside
of the Jacksonville game, it's just been complete disappointment and
I don't know how it gets better. I I have
no idea the I felt like. So the Jake Browning
performance that he had Week four against Denver on Monday Night,
(05:51):
I think is in direct correlation to what happened in
Week three and kind of what happened in week two
when he replaced Joe Burrow. It's like, don't turn the
football over, right, Like just don't turn the football over. Well,
if you have that mindset, you're not going to be
able to take risks. I think Denver was probably jacked
up at home as well. But I just I don't
know where the I don't know if there is a
breakthrough in Cincinnati. So if you had Jamar Chase one
(06:14):
point one on your draft board and took him number
one overall, you're.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Going to continue to play him.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I don't know how you could trade him because what
is the value that you're going to get for him.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, you're in a tough spot.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, it's tough. You look at the overall I'm looking
at Fantasy pros for the draft board as it went down,
Chase number one, Okay, two and three, Robinson and Gibbs great,
Number four, CD Lamb gets hurt. Number five is Saquon Barkley.
He's currently RB thirteen. Justin Jefferson was sixth he is
currently wide receiver sixteen. And with him you had the
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questions of, all right, Addison was suspended for three weeks
and what the quarterback position was going to be this
year year, But you just figured the throw it up
and let him go get it, just like Sam Darnold
in a year ago was gonna work. Not yet, Neighbors
being hurt, Nico Collins in a world of hurt with
what Houston's become. He was eighth overall, McCaffrey nine, I'm
(07:16):
on Ross sin Brown ten. You want to talk about
value proposition, Derrick Henry Phoka Nikua, Brian Thomas, Ashton Genty,
Drake London. Genty finally has the big breakout game, so okay,
you have hope that there's better days ahead. But then
they lose their their best offensive lineman at the end
(07:37):
of that game. Yes, right, Cole Miller goes down, and
I just.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Don't I don't know how many Raider games are gonna
play out like that. Sure, I've got Genty on my team.
There may be one that plays out like that against
the Colts coming up in Week five. Then they got
the Titans, you know after that, but you're a you're
in a division with some good defenses when we're talking
about skedwel wise and I just don't know on how
many of those games are going to play out like that.
(08:04):
And you mentioned the offensive line just for gent I
have questions as well. It's a gosh, it's a funky
like like Pooka Nica Poka Nicoua would be your first
overall pick. I think if he just scored one more touchdown,
it's the only got one on the year, Like that's
that's the only drawback. But you look at his numbers
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and the the the part that you salivate over targets
and then the actual catches, and then you look at
the yards and you're like, my goodness. So if you're
in a PPR league, you probably even have felt the
effects of what's happened with the touchdowns. But that I'm
talking number one overall with with Puka's season so far,
for how good he's been.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
PPR leagues are half PPR right now, he is number one.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Really yeah yeah, one touchdown.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
With one touchdown, he's got eighty eight and a half points.
James Cook eighty or eighty five. I'm sorry, eighty five.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So it's jon On that Listen is sitting.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
He's fourth amongst running backs.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oh god, so you got Co's only got two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So Cook, then Taylor, then McCaffrey, then Bijeon, and the
difference between McCaffrey and Bijon is a point, okay, and
then three points up to Taylor who doesn't catch the
ball at all and has had two monster games and
two nah all right, eleven points in week one, twelve
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points in week four, sandwiched with two massive games in between,
and then you got Cook eighteen point seven, twenty six,
nineteen point three, twenty one to that point with pukin
Nikua eighteen. I mean your your low point is seventeen
and a half PPR.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The crazy thing is Devonte Adams hasn't been bad, right,
like so like I played Devonte Anams currently twelfth, yeah,
like you know it gets in the end zone against
the Colts this past weekend, scored against the Titans, Like
you're like, all right, okay, all right, let's do it.
As three touchdowns on the season, thirty five targets so
far for Adams. Poka's got forty two catches to Adams seventeen,
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and I'm satisfied with DeVonta Adams performance so far.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's crazy and how good book it a gool has been.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, just absurdly consistent, and I'll take the l on that.
Like I with Adam showing up in the Stafford stuff,
as we spoke about on the last episode, it was
one where I'm like, I love him, I love the player,
but I don't know how this play is. If something
happens to Stafford or he finds the new apple of
(10:45):
his eye with Devonte Adams instead, everybody wins.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's you just kick yourself. I was the
same way I did so many mock drafts. I was
sitting at eight overall, and it's in our ten team
league where if Puka was there at eight, I wasn't
taking him, and honestly, if he was there at thirteen,
I wasn't taking Aim.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean, and.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
There was no there was no strategy where I would
I would if say, ceedee Lamb fell to me at eight,
I would take it, and then I'd say, okay, I'll
take Jonathan Taylor or Josh Jacobs at thirteen.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
When I was.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Doing my no running back thing as it talked about
in a previous episode. I was doing mylik neighbors in
Brian Thomas. I was like, I'm just I'm not gonna
have Poka the Cool on my team. And it's a
lesson that I need to learn of. Again, it's not
about the names. It's just about the players and the value.
And maybe if I took a little bit more value
(11:39):
into what the names were, maybe that would have changed
my mind. But man, I completely missed like you did, Mike,
I was not a believer.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I wonder if part of it is like a subconscious
thing with Pooka about how the fact that he went
what was he Wasn't he like a fifth round pick
in the in the actual NFL draft, not fantasy. I
wonder if that has someone to do with it, Like
obviously Stefan Diggs I think, was also a fifth round pick,
and you know it took a little while for him
to end up shaking the stink of that. I wonder
if that's something a subconscious thing with Puco where we
(12:09):
just don't If his name was Marvin Harrison Junior and
he was in an identical situation, I feel like we
would view him.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Well, he would have to catch the ball repeatedly. Yeah, well,
bad example. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Marvin Harrison Junior. Tell
your dad to leave me alone.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, you don't want to mess with scene, No, you
do not. I think Puka's touchdown totals scare people. Yeah, yeah,
it scared me as well. Like I'm thinking, like, okay,
for a guy who doesn't score touchdowns, if he takes
a step back where I mean, it's it's not like
he's gonna have nine touchdowns in the season. And that's
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the I guess that's the thing that it has held
true because he's only got one so far this season,
but last year, in the eleven games he played, he
had three. He was great in the games that he
did end up suiting up year before, he had six.
Maybe it's the touchdowns that are that are the reason
why I'm not too worried about where he was drafted,
you know anymore. But man, like it's yeah, he's he's
(13:09):
just been really good.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah. I mean once once we get a year or
two remove from a draft and a guy's in a system,
I'm done with it. Like I think that still applies
to quarterbacks and maybe a little bit, Uh you know,
which is why people still want to fight about rock Perty.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, well, I think it's size and if you want
to say that with Perty as well, but I think
like Puka's size is something where it's easy to say,
I'll just use his counterpart, DeVonta Adams. You know, DeVonta
Adams is gonna you know, his catch radious is enormous.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're like, all right, Pooka's.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Maybe not that big, and maybe that's a reason. I
don't know if it moved people off of Jackson Smith
and Jigba. Shouldn't have been, because he's been really good
to start the year. But maybe maybe the size of Puka,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, Jass ends one of those guys that if we
we call out, you know, guys that got pushed down
draft board. He was twenty eighth on average in drafts,
behind Allen and Jackson. I always love to do that
just because we get we get some country music in
I'm a work in progress that's become a theme song.
(14:14):
But they went ahead of Jackson Smith and Jigba in
the drafts. He went twenty eighth overall, currently sitting at
I believe eighth in half PPR leagues, which is where
we normally put things in to put it in perspective.
Through four weeks though, on the strength of one monster game,
Trey Tucker's ninth amongst wide receivers, so it's just and
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he had a big three point two against the Bears,
so it's still a lot of room for variants. So
we're looking for just consistency, which you know for JSN,
he's going to get his targets. Sam Darnold's been every
bit the part. But yeah, that draft board, I mean,
Lad McConkey was twenty fourth. Keenan Allen coming back. As
we discussed last week, everybody can go download the podcast
(14:57):
and check that out of how much the pecking order
changes by the veteran coming back into that room.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Let me let me ask you guys this trade question,
just hypothetically, if you had Jamar Chase, would you trade
him for Ashton gent Y?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, I would, I think so, Yeah, I'll take I'll
take the touches. Even though the oat line play is suspect.
Gino's been terrible with taking care of the football. Yeah,
but I got a guy that, unless he gets hurt,
is gonna touch it fifteen to twenty times a game. Guaranteed. Yeah,
I would make that all day.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, so that we've already dropped Chase to the back
end of the first round, right, I mean like for
of of where you're picking him or where you have him,
like for the.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Guy that was one one overall.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, yeah, I just can't. I can't just can't trust it, right, Like,
even if they go into the trade market, let's just
play the hypotheticals for a second. With Jamar Chase and
t Higgins going forward, who the hell's coming in that
you trust? That's suddenly? I mean it would be interesting. Yeah,
it would be interesting to watch either Captain Kirk or
(16:05):
the moonball of Russell Wilson show up. But are you
trusting that that's going to connect every week?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Again? I think Zach.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I think Zach Taylor put the reins on him, like
I really think he did. And again it's Denver's defense,
so it's a different story. But I think they were
like they got crushed in Minnesota and the turnovers were
big and I couldn't hold on of the football. I
think they're like, all right, let's hold on of the football.
Let's not turn this thing over. And that's and then
(16:35):
Fantasy Football players are the ones who have to watch it.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Blake conservatively to a whole other point.
And that goes back to one of our fantasy darlings
that I was I had on my board as a
back end first round pick, and that's Chase Brown of
the same squad. Yeah right, And we look at it overall.
I mean I think we were both all, I mean
all three of us higher on him. He was our
went twenty first. Su're all just ahead of Bucky Irving,
(17:05):
who's been fantastic, and just behind Josh Jacobs, who well
we've already lamented his ability to gut yet the goal line.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, And the other thing is the Bengals, you know,
at least on Monday Night, didn't have the football very often.
But it also means you're not moving the chains. You're
not you know, there were two of eleven on third down,
and I think that could be a reason why of
you're just like, all right, I'm not gonna we're not
gonna turn this over, we're not gonna do anything.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But when you're down twenty one to three and a.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Half, there's nowhere to go but up. And the Bengals
didn't even do that in the second half. So all right,
there's a look at some of the top end of
your pre draft rankings and where we own where we
are now through week four, Let's take a look at
some of the sleepers that we've got, plus just to
sneak peek ahead to Thursday night's NFC West showdown to
(17:57):
start the week between the Niners and Rams. That's next
here on I want your flex, all right, Week five,
We'll start on Thursday night with the Niners and Rams.
Tricky spots, especially for San Francisco having to take on
LA on a short week, expected to be shorthanded considering
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some of the injuries that they suffered. Not necessarily sure
Mike on how many forty nine ers will be missing
the game, But brock Purdy had a bit of a
setback with his toe injury, and at the time of
this recording his status up in the air.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Same thing with a couple of his favorite targets.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So that's a team that put George Kittle on IR
for this week, and the exact reason was for this
week because they didn't think that Kittle would be healthy
enough to play week four, and they weren't going to
play him week five. On a short week from the
Sunday to a Thursday. So with that hamstring injury that
he had, they just decided to put him on IR
guaranteeing that he's going to miss the next four games,
(18:55):
then would have a little bit of time from week
five to week six to maybe return. Now you're here
on sure weekend, the Niners are banged up again, A
tough spot for a road game against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, as we sit here and there's there's hope that
party plays. If so, he's a high end two. But
you're also talking about all the weapons. The only one
that you could trust right now is the double digit
target you're getting week to week from Christian McCaffrey in
the receiving game. It's a bit of a dice roll.
I think if I'm playing in a daily league, maybe
I'm looking at a guy as like like a born
(19:27):
deep for the dollar play just as a all right,
everybody else is banged up and might be limited even
if they are available. But on the San Francisco side,
I mean it's a no go. On the Rams side
with no Bosa there, I'm feeling a little bit better
that Matthew Stafford's going to be able to stand up
(19:48):
upright and make plays for me there. So again looking
at a high end two because we're not passing for
three hundred plus yards again against this defense, even without Bosa,
but looking at you know, the rest of the squad
will play our two wide receivers that we've talked about
a lot. When you get to Nikua and with DeVante Adams.
(20:12):
Maybe Adams takes a little bit of a hit, but
still gonna be no worse than a back end one.
That's it. We got two ones on the field for
you here running back position. Kyn Williams still the number
one and undisputed, so he gets back in as a
high end two. But that gives us enough starters, I think,
(20:33):
And depending on how the quarterback situation plays out in
San Francisco, maybe the Rams become a little bit of
a sleeper defense to get after it. But I think
I might be pushing a little too hard there.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
That's on Thursday nights, our week five matchup, where I
assume the Rams are going to be wearing their rivalry.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Jerseys, Rivalry baby their own black jerseys.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Again, I thought the Seahawks and Cardinals are gonna wear
their rivalry jerseys last Thursday. Now we're finding out only
one team is wearing them, all right, stupid concept, NFL.
You also just made a dumber because of that fact
that only one team's gonna wear them.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Means more than one team didn't. Yeah, we have nine rivals.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No, so stupid. Oh my goodness. And I don't even
think I sound like get off my No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I just think it's like, why would one team wear
a rivalry uniform?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
No, it's just a logic problem that you're you're opposing here.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I just I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
We're either rivals or were not.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, how about the.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Like the Broncos are said, like, hey, it's a Monday
night game, we're gonna wear all Navy, kind of like
maybe a nod to the old John Elway Super Bowl
teams thirty two and thirty three.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, okay, that's a way to do it.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You don't have to make a whole new uniform or
then idiots like me will buy the mini helmet and
that's how they make money off of it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Anyway, But that mini helmet collection is glorious.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh just it.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Actually, when I saw that, I'm like crap, Like, now
there's more helmets.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I have to try.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yes, I thought I was done.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I told you guys, I got the Bills one in Buffalo,
and then I went to here's the great thing about
the Buffalo story again, high Mark Stadium, straight out of
nineteen seventy eight, like it's straight there. Went to the
Bill's team shop. That's where I bought the Rivalry Bill's helmet.
I walk out to go to my seat, there's a
trailer like a trailer sitting inside the grounds like I've
(22:33):
where your tickets are. They're also selling Bill stuff and
they had the red Jim Kelly Thurman Thomas Bill's helmet. Well,
I've already bought this other one. I can't buy the
other one, and I do already have a red one,
but it's not the newer model of the red one,
and I put a blue face mask on it. The
point being, again, I wasn't going to load up on
(22:53):
mini helmets, but I bought the Rivalry one first, so
I stood. I don't want to say I'm stuck with that,
but I just stayed with that purchase.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Now we'll augmented for the holidays. I'm not buying you
another shelf, though, I'll buy you the helmet.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
The Bills I think are going to wear their rivalry
uniforms against the Patriots. I think I think that's what
the plan is. But we shall see on Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
More ways to get into our pockets.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Dan, Yeah, I do think that one of the best
uniforms in football is the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
George Pickens looked pretty good in it.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I am curious They've got Ian's Jets coming up in
week five. I'm really curious to see on how Pickens
does in his role now. Is target number one for
Dak Prescott? Was it game flow that allowed him to
get the game that he had. Jake Ferguson has been
a popular target for Dak, but Pickens let him with
(23:50):
eleven targets in that game against the Packers on Sunday night.
I'm high on Pickens up to a point. There's also
going to be a point where Ceedee Lamb does come back.
So if you do have George Pickens, maybe now's the
time to sell high on them.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I would say this. I do like the fact that
you saw it on the sideline. There was a great
video going around on that big pass play down the
sideline of Ceedee Lamb just losing his mind before the
balls throwing. It's like here, it is touchdown here, touchdown here.
So like whatever's going on, whatever Pickens history has, I'm
not going to say that it's one hundred percent it's
(24:25):
not going to reappear. Things seem to be right right
in that situation. Teammates cheering for each other, Dak trusting
that he's going to be able to go up and
get it, which I think is he just needed the
love right and Arthur Smith's offense and the way they
ran thing in Pittsburgh that was not happening, whereas now
(24:46):
he's getting fed, he's being integrated. Even with Ceedee Lamb healthy,
You're still looking at Pickens head back to back fifteen
point games before this breakout in week four. So I'm
bullish that, at least for a little while longer this
roles and it owes to your preseason prediction, Dan, I
don't think we thought the defense would be quite as bad,
(25:08):
but that Dak Prescott would go and get it and
show the quarterback he is. And right now he's having
himself a time.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, he's he is leading the NFL and passing yards
so far through four weeks of the season is Dak Prescott.
They got Ian's Jets. I don't know how much of a.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Defense the Jets will be able to put up against.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Dak for Dallas.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
What happened on Monday night to the Jets, but but
still should be should be interesting matchup. By the way,
Cowboys Jets is a matchup that because again AFC against NFC,
we only see once every four years. I have a
tough time remembering other Cowboys Jets matchups.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
One comes to mind for me, and it was Sam
Darnold's return from Mono and it was Adam Is his
first win with the case. Yeah, all the wins.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, he showed up on all the graphics. Uh after
the Monday night affair because he was the last Jets
coach to start hing four.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah, not good company, both ag I'm just making that
connection now about that, Oh God, don't get me down
a rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Send him spiraling here. We triggered him by bringing up
by getting into a Gase game.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Now, who are some intriguing guys you think are entering
week five or out of the first quarter of the season.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I picked pick and what do you guys like?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think I'll grab a couple of the running backs.
We talked about him before in the last episode, the
rookie running backs having their time. But the thing that's
most intriguing for Omarion Hampton for me going forward is
how much of a part of the passing game he's
become and if he's going to be that active and
give you the bonus because you're looking at eleven catches
(26:57):
in the last two weeks. Now we're in bonus array, sure, right,
And he's what a bowling ball I guess would be
the because I can't use the Juggernaut. I already got Scatabo.
I'm assigning everybody a Marvel equivalent eventually, but well, because
then I can create trading cards and make money. But
(27:18):
all of that to say, he only had twelve carries
but had the fifty four yard sprint, Like there's just
something there. And we know how Harbaugh wants to play football,
so his role will be huge and Cleveland stinks. But
Judkins is the guy standalone going forward. Twenty one carries
(27:38):
eighty two yards. He had eighteen for ninety four against
what we thought was a big Green Bay defense. So
a guy that they're becoming comfortable with making the bell
Cow and whenever we can find one of those in Fantasy,
I'll jump on his back and let him carry me through.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Absolutely, Ian, who do you love? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I had two guys who actually made their return this week.
One you guys alluded to him earlier in Xavier Worthy
over one hundred yards from scrimmage, So that was big
ye at thirty eight rushing yards with eighty three receiving yards.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Well, it's good to have someone to carry the ball
that isn't Patrick Mahomes, right of course.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
And speaking of Mahomes, I mean that's a pretty good
guy to have throwing the ball to you. And you
know he's presumably his top target going forward now, so
love Worthy going forward. And then the other one's Jordan Addison,
who also made his return from a suspension, and he
had over one hundred receiving yard.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Did you think he the first got back? Do you
think he didn't do any sprints while he was off?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yah? Because that was a joke. Yeah, clearly. I'm sure
his his his speed will return in time. And even
with that getting caught from behind, he still had a
pretty good Fantasy day fifteen points.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I thought he lost his balance a little bit.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
So It wasn't a speed thing.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It was a balance Yeah. I did.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I did, And now I know Patrick Wilson's a fast runner,
but I think that at least give a break to Addison.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
So he did sprints, he just wasn't doing his balance exercise.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, always work for balance and definition, no
question about it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I'm going to give you one other name then we'll
wrap this up. Stefan Diggs one hundred yards against good
shout out the Panthers, seven targets. Mike talked about how
much he loves Drake May right now Hunter Henry getting
maybe a lot of the love getting into the end zone.
But if you're looking for a reliable guy down the stretch,
(29:31):
and I do think that the Patriots again, they are
five turnovers away from I think being three to one.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
If they don't.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
If they turn over the ball twice against the Steelers
instead of five times, I think they win that game.
But if the Patriots are going to be a wild
card contender in the AFC, I think that you're going
to see Drake May latch onto Stefan Diggs seems to
be okay from New scenery. Off the injury. The whole
(29:59):
deal look out for Stefan Diggs at least the rest
of the way.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I like that. I like that a lot uh seven
targets a couple of times minimum of three all we
can ask for and speak to his opportunity fellaws. That's
what we've always we've always said with this podcast, you
and I Dan, for as long as we've been doing this,
touches and consistency of targets, throw the outlier out. Give
(30:23):
me a guy that is going to become a steady opportunist.
And when we're talking about Drake May still growing and
looking better by the week. Yeah, we met culture. Thing
we talked about before the year. In the AFC East,
you got one team that seems to have found theirs Ian.
Your guys are still looking. But you have the greatest
(30:44):
viral meme of twenty twenty five, hands down.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
The dance on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, you can never take that away.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Well you can't, you can't. Come on. That was great.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I got a coach yelling at the sideline.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I got yeah, oh that's all right, all right, that's
it for I want your flags.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Hope things go well for you on Thursday night, and
we'll be back for a brand new episode on Friday
to get your set for all the matchups, but again
plan ahead. Four teams on by Packers, Steelers, Bears, Falcons
all getting arrest early on in the season. So for
Mike Harmen and Ian Roddy, I'm Dan Bayer. Can't wait
to talk to you next time right here, and I
want your flags.
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