October 15, 2025 • 33 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open the show discussing the weird barrage of injuries that's swept the league in recent weeks, debating what might be causing it, along with how to navigate it from a fantasy perspective. Then they get into the Titans firing head coach Brian Callahan, talking about what it means for Cam Ward and the rest of the offense moving forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Week six is in the books.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hit Mike up at swallowdot. You can find me at
Dan Byer on Fox. And Ian Roddy is the executive producer.
You can find him at Ian Roddy Underscore. A week
that had a little bit of this, a little bit
of that, not too much excitement points wise in London.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It ends on a soggy night in the c Mike.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Week six is in the books, but with some uh,
with some infirmer reports that are stacked up to the ceiling.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, really just one after another and it's the wait
and see a lot of well maybe Week seven.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
When we talk about pukin Nakua, we know Ian's jets
already reeling and infighting. Garrett Wilson being at the heart
of it and going into halftime and now he's probably
gone for several weeks as the Jets try to figure
out what the second half of the season becomes. But
that's that's the story coming out of Week six for me,
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Like even going in, you know, you were in with
us at the news desk, Dan, and the stat that
just stood out to me as we're already into the
our mid forties of different quarterbacks that have started a
game right that you know, obviously Joe Flacco, multiple teams,
but the fact that we're going to the fantasy infirmary
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so often, the number of running backs that have left
games and next man up, and you know, just the
waiver wire is great and the churn has been great,
and if you're in a league that charges by transaction,
that pod is getting immense Yeah, by the mid season here,
because I know some folks that do that, right, the
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fifty cents or a dollar per waiver wire transaction, and
it's like a pinball machine rolling up numbers. At this
point in the year.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's nice to have flexibility with your roster. I'm not
sure you guys like to put them together. But now
we're getting into bye weeks. In this past week, we
just had the Texans and Vikings on by next week,
only two teams, but I think you're going to be
missing some players because the Bills are on by and
the Ravens are on by as well. So those are
the two teams not playing in week seven. But you know,
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in my longtime league, we have one ir spot. I've
got Joe Burrow on that spot right there, but have
also had to deal with Mike Evans' absence and others.
And now when you start getting into the bye weeks
and you have some of these injuries and you're holding
on to certain guys that you're like, okay, it's three
to four weeks, some of these decisions on who to
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hold on to and who not to hold on to
become increasingly difficult. And at times you're also then just
trying to guess who isn't going to get hurt when
you're making some of these decisions on who to keep
and who not to keep. So depending on how many
roster spots you have, it's going to start to get
really tricky with the bench maneuvers, especially when we have
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a sixteen buy coming up in a week or two.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, it's been curious, and this came up in one
of my leagues, was a vote proposed to maybe allow
players declared out to be put into an IR spot.
I guess depending on the league settings and whatever service
you use, that may be an option. And it was
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voted down. Interesting as if you're not officially on IR,
then just being out that's why you have a bench.
So if your league has cut the bench to where
that's an issue, then maybe that's something for your league constitution. Yeah,
the following year, because that's been the trend and we've
talked about it in the years doing the podcast, Dan
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of I know in a lot of my leagues they've
shaved one or two bench slots to try to promote
that waiver activity. Not necessarily to increase the pot, but
just that you'd have more viable players potentially in the
player pool if you did suffer an injury, but that
it would create those hard decisions of all, right, do
I trust that this guy once he's back, reassumes a
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prominent role or is it a longer term, long long
standing injury to where maybe they don't become the top
target again, or I can't hoard five running backs that
are backups and handcuffs that I may have to put
one of those back into the pool, which allows someone
else maybe to play for depth, or maybe they're just
praying for a handful of carries because they're in have
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hit there as well. So it's that kind of strategical
thing and a conversation I think more leagues will have
going forward with the spate of injuries we've had.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, I was in a spot in another league where
there's only six bench spots Terry mclauren and Ricky Piersall
mclauren perfect example for this, has not been put on IR,
but doesn't seem like he's even been close to playing
a couple of times. There was some talk early in
the week prior to Week six that maybe he could
come back from Monday night, but that was shot down
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relatively quickly. And while it fits into the commander's plans
to not have him on IR and try to work
him out, I think that's too bad that your league
voted it down, because I do think that there should
be the option if someone is out like that, then
you should be able to put them on injured reserve.
In a holdover league that we had that we would
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say in the past, guys got to be on your
roster the whole time. It's got to be some of
the you originally drafted. If you traded for him, there'd
be like other stuff, but there'd be a reason to
put someone on IR to want to keep there for
the whole time. Now there's in a non holdover league,
like I think that you absolutely should allow IR to
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be someone who's out two to three weeks or when
they're deemed out to your point to put them in
that spot. I think that that's we do this for fun, right,
And I understand that certain advantages are given to certain
people in certain ways, but I want to have fun.
And if one guy's getting screwed with his team and
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it doesn't have any interest because he can't feel the
team anymore, that's not good for the league. So I
don't know what you voted for in your league, Mike,
I'm not sure, but I wish my league would have
done that, or at least have a setting that would
allow guys who are at least out multiple weeks but
not on IR to be able to be put on IR.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, I think as it got proposed, and I just
asked the question because it's one of these, you know
leagues across folks that do what we do podcasts or
writing columns. And it was one person that proposed it
because their team had been hit particularly hard and over
the time they had eradicated multiple roster spots. So now
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it's the ad back on because of players out like it, don't.
I don't know it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Because it happened to them, it became a.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Big deal and it's like the Packers with the toush push.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But it's the competitive league right to where folks are
writing on wins and losses and not that I do
it because look, I've got my show with Jason Smith,
and this is part of what we do and we
have fun with it. Obviously we're trying to help people
win and we want to win ourselves. But I'm not
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writing a lot of content about the leagues I'm playing in.
Nor am I putting up hey I won that like
writing giant missives of winning, sure leak. So if suddenly
I'm losing because my players are hurt well to some degree,
like look, I've taken my lumps before in these leagues.
It's unfortunate, right, It's like sometimes you don't have the breaks,
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and you may have to make the hard decision if
a team is deciding and and look if you got
hit by like four or five of your top players,
I mean, you just have to admit that it's not
your lead your year. Yeah right, But you know, if
you're deciding between the guys you want to stash on
your bench, because the benches in these leagues are big
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enough that you've decided, all right, you need to hold them.
It's like, well, no, like this is where the tough
choices have to be made. And you can write a
full column or do a full podcast of how you
came to this difficult decision because your number two or
number three receiver is out. But not on IR. I
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think it's an opportunity from the content of here's how
I went about finding a replacement for this guy, and
I had to make a tough choice in terms of
what I was stashing. Yeah, and it's it's unfortunate, like
I think it Barrel narrowly got voted down. I didn't
care really much either way, but there were a couple
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of folks that had very strong opinions on it one
way or the other.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I look at it because I in my longtime league,
we have one less bench spot than we do in
this in this other league where I had McLaurin, but
then the other league, I had Mike Evans. I'm also carrying.
I said, I put Joe Burrow on IR in that league.
I'm rotating quarterbacks. And not to tell you about my
fantasy team, because nobody cares about my fantasy team. But
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if I've got three quarterbacks that I've been kind of
rotating and moving around, that's where I have to bite
my bullet right, like, you know, that's a luxury now
that I can't afford.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I shouldn't be able to. I shouldn't complain that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
There aren't enough spots if I'm carrying an XSS amount
of quarterbacks. I just look into the sixth you know,
the sixth bye week when it's going to be tough,
and then there are guys who maybe they're they're hurt,
but their team doesn't have a buy until week nine,
so they just got to get their team to that buy,
you know, like that's and it's what the what the
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Ravens did with Lamar. You know they knew that a
buy coming up in week seven. That's whether there was
never a chance he was going to play in weeks
five or six, but you know, like to have that
opportunity to just you know, put that player at that
point if there are a bunch of teams on by.
That's just that's my issue with it. I think there comes,
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you know, there's a line, and I guess that's the
problem with it, of just trying to to find where
that line is. But again, you're talking to a guy
who thinks that backup quarterbacks shouldn't you know, be able
to be put in if the starter is is hurt right,
or if the starter plays one quarter, you should get
three quarters of whoever the backup is of points in
that way, because I think that's like such a luck
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of the draw guy. So I think sometimes I'm more
lenient with rules maybe than other people are. But I
also just try to look at the fun of the
game and trying to you know, keep people interested and
trying to keep people into the contest.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, but to that point, Dan, at one point, that
was a consideration. I remember when we had all working
at Yahoo all those years ago, was the idea of
the team quarterback, Like you're drafting a running back and
maybe you don't get their handcuff or whatever. Maybe you
don't want their handcuff, but from the quarterback perspective, you
would just have team quarterback. Sure, right, So if you
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drafted you know, Blobar Jackson or Joe Burrow. Like for
Joe Burrow you got team Cincinnati, so you got Browning
for a couple of weeks. Now you got Joe Flacco. Yeah,
for better or for worse, right, And if you decide
you want out of that entire system, then you're done
with it. But it also to a degree, you know,
it removes that I are consideration at least for the
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quarterback possession. Then you have to decide whether the ancillary parts.
And I certainly don't mean to dismiss Jamar Chase T
Higgins and company, but you know, those affected by the
quarterback position, whether you know they're good enough to warrant
playing their backup right?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah? Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It is an interesting dilemma that that people will have
to try to sort out one way or another. I
like how different links do it. I do, even though
I don't agree with it, I do admire the league
that you're in, the steadfast of This is just the
way it's going to be. I don't always love that.
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I feel sometimes in leagues people are just like tough crap.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah no, I mean it ended up being a really
great debate, kind of like the discussion we're having here,
Like you see, where you want to keep it competitive,
and particularly if it's not for heavy stakes and it's
you know, your friends or you know, say you're in
a Yahoo public league, that would be the best place
to have some more flexibility mm hmm or whatever service
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public league, because there are folks that if it starts
going south, there's no incentive, they'll just say, all right,
I'm done with it. Now You've got a dead team.
So if it's going to keep them competitive, then yeah,
make the adjustment and give that flexibility.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
There's gosh, there's so many different, you know, things that
you can look at and things that you can do.
I the reason I like the the replacement is because
I also think it makes you make decisions about your bench,
where sometimes your bench decisions are just I need a
guy or I need a you know, maybe handcuff is
the opportunity with other positions, but at.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Quarterback maybe it wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
But uh yeah, there's just there's I think there's other
ways that things can be gone about to to draw interest,
and you know, we see it in guillotine leagues that
we talk about like there's a whole different way to
play fantasy and there's so many different versions of fantasy
football to keep you interested. So the games within the
games within the games and the rules within those games
are always an interesting conversation. We are going to take
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a time out, hit my cup at Swollen. Don't find
Ian at Ian Roddy underscore. You can find me at
dan Byer on Fox Thursday Night preview Steelers taking on
the Bengals, plus a little bit more of the look
ahead next here, and I want your Flex. Well, Brian
Callahan didn't make it two week seven of his second season.
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Welcome back it is, I want your Flex. That's Mike Krmen.
I'm Dan by Ian Roddy there as our executive producer.
Change in Nashville as the Callahan era ended after twenty
three games before we dive into the Thursday Night contest,
I'm going to call it the debacle in Nashville. It
has no rhyme or reason, but it just never ever
got on track for Brian Callahan and the Titans no.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I mean we certainly have had some of the warring
in the press, he and cam Ward going back and
forth a couple of weeks ago. You know, hey, you
know the kind of like with the TUA talking out
in front of a microphone and air in the dirty laundry,
Like some things need to be behind closed doors. Right,
you got an issue United front? Yeah, you can acknowledge
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that there are issues that you're working through and leave
it at that right button buttoned up instead of calling out.
You know where your team is and you know, in
Ward's case, it was just they're terrible, Okay, us watching
the product can tell you that as the quarterback, you know,
this is where you take ownership and you talk about
where where you're building and try to spin some positive
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as best you can. I still thought it was a
little curious to do it at this point, But the
last couple of years, I'm not quite so sure. They've
they've figured out what direction they want to go in Tennessee,
and this is more evidence of it. You know, defense
has played well in spots the offense is sputtering. Got
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a bad lie. You know, Callahan's dad goes out the
door with him, But you're talking about retread wide receivers
or late round draft picks, guys that you had drafted
early didn't quite work out, and so I don't know
if we were expecting much of a better product at
this point.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'll tell you what I think is interesting, And because
there was a point where I thought it was going
to work with Brian Callahan and then he screamed at
Will Levis one point when Levis made a mistake and
it was a bad blunder and he.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Had some classics, you could put it together a comedy.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Well, Mike, that's my point. That's the point I'm about
to make here, is that it happened once, and then
it happened again, and then it happened again. And at
what point are you like, Okay, I need to actually
act like an NFL head coach. I can't yell at
Will Levis like he's a freshman in high school, you know,
like I just and do it on that TV. And
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plus someone like Will Levis, who's I mean, you know,
swimming upstream and trying to you know, grab that job
and do whatever he can. There were some bright moments
prior to Brian Callahan coming along, but last year I
was on.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
The side of Brian Callahan. I thought it was going
to work. I thought he'd be able to.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Turn that offense around, but he never acted like a
head coach, and then he seemed to pick fights with
members of the media. And now when Jeffrey Simmons is
saying in the locker room that we probably had our
worst week of practice coming off of that crazy win
that they had against the Cardinals in Week five, like
it was, none of it made sense. And I think
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the reason that they did it now is because they
may have been afraid Mike Rabel was going to try
to embarrass them, because here they go and play the
guy that they replaced him with, essentially, and now we
know that decision wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
There's a bad decision by the Titans.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
They can turn the page, but at least they can
save the embarrassment by not having Callahan.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
On the sidelines when they faced Mike Rabell in week seven.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Because right now you've got a Patriots squad that's starting
to come together and on both sides of the ball,
Drake may looks like that guy and the Bills are
reeling the opportunity for them to go take the division.
Is there but certainly defensively getting after whatever that offense
is for Tennessee right now, wouldn't be surprised if you
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don't see a hey, you know what, take the two
step and just tuck it into the gut of either
running back forty five times. We'll just try to run
the clock out and keep it.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And if there's any coach that is going to spite
his former job, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's Mike Rable.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Oh absolutely, you know right.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Like if anybody's going to have that chip on his
shoulder to go in there to kick the crap out
of them, like, that's who it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Like the timing is funky in that aspect of when
they're gonna end up letting them go. They had to
buy coming up in a couple of weeks. November ninth
is their their bye weekend. But instead of waiting that
long and plus you lose to the Raiders, that's never good.
I feel that the timing is probably right. Now we'll
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see if cam Ward plays a little bit better, see
how that running back you know, committee, if you will
know that ty J. Spears is back for the for
the Titans, Tony Poller did all right for them, but
they just hadn't gotten it going. But yeah, we'll see
where the Titans now turn because we've been forgetting the
Titans instead of remembering them.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So far, nicely done strong side, left side. There are
seven point underdogs at home, the over undersitting at forty
two and a half. Mike McCoy, welcome to another head
coaching gig.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And I always liked Mike McCoy. I know that Charger
fans kind of soured on him at the end. Fans
soured on a lot of their head coaches, maybe some
no fault of their own, but I didn't mind McCoy,
but it just kind of got it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Got blah with the Charges at the end of his
ten year.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, I mean there were a couple of years. I
mean you look at some of the rankings that come
out and obviously it's Philip Rivers, so you borderline Hall
of Famer depending on where you want to fight that battle. Long,
long list of quarterbacks that might be ahead of him
never got over the top. But I mean the average
three hundred and sixty six yards a game, that's top
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ten in total offense. This comes from Titans Dot com
and they were second and third down percentage. Now it's lofty,
lofty goals for cam Ward and what this iteration of
an offense is, but it shows proof of concept anyway.
So maybe with a camber Head, a little older guy
who's been through the Wars, who's not look he obviously
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would like the job, but it's not you know, clinging
on like Callahan. Or go back to Gannon with the
Deember cop thing a week ago where you could see
the pressure valve like he needed a release instead of
you know, going in a costing his running back. With McCoy,
I think you get a more calm headed approach to it,
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level headed, and maybe a different messaging is all they
need to at least get to some level of stability.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I typed in the two to YouTube Brian Callahan screaming
and do you get a super cut? It hit auto
corrected to Brian Callahan yelling at Will Levis.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yes, well remember that play against the Bears going down
and he kind of flipped it towards the sideline that
the guy caught in stride and sprinted to the end
like that. One will always.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Just be my favorite is the still of him on
his knees with the boat a hand, both hands on
his head after he threw an interception. I don't remember
which team.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I think that was it. I think that's the one, so.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Brutal, tough times. You can also search Brian Callahan upset
with Will Levis. Will Will auto filled that sort of deal.
I'm looking at a highlight right now is against the Jets.
Last season.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
There was one against the Jets.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember he
had a bad one against them, some kind of fumble.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I think, yeah, this is a family show. But you
can hear Brian Callahan, or you can read Brian Callahan's
lips to Will Levis saying what the eff are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But he didn't say yeah, there you go. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Called Will Levis said his plays were dumb or some
made dumb decisions.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, Will Levis is having a week. All right, good
for good for Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Well, speaking of McCoy too, you guys like how it
took the Titans like five hours to actually announce who
you the interim head coach was going to be. It
was like they didn't have a plan. They were like,
all right, let's fire him and then we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I think nobody wanted it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, someone finally didn't step backwards or forwards depending on
what they asked.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Were you know, everyone else stepped back and he was
the only one left. So that Williams, you know, volunteering.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Mike mentioned it earlier. But with his dad, Bill being
on staff, I'm sure that there's a bunch of stuff
they have to figure out as well, because there's no
way that he's sticking around, you know two, So there's
probably the steps. But you're right because I when the
news broke, I come on winning, I'm like, well, who's
going to take over? And then it was a couple
of hours until they finally ended up announcing it.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
But it would have been funny if his dad got
named the interim coach.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
With that, hey, then his dad names Brian offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
But chaos ensues.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yes, right, well, I thought things are going to work
out when he came over from Cincinnati, and they did not.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
But what do you think of Cam warned at this point,
like we talked about it for a couple of minutes,
Smith and I, I just don't know that the guy's
been given much of a chance.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I still believe in him. I still do. I liked
him a lot coming out of college. Yeah, he think
he's like he's just his he thinks the right way,
you know, just holding everyone accountable. I can tell he's not. Uh,
there's no war.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You love that Chador clip when Shador wanted to do
stuff with like the camera as a camboards, like I
just want.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
To throw a football.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
No, I give him a I don't want to say
a bit of a pass because I don't think that
he is the normal number one overall pick because he wasn't.
He wasn't a top ten prospect in this past draft, right,
and there were people who had him outside I should
say top five, so maybe had him at eight or seven.
But there are times when we go into a draft
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class where the quarter the top prospect is the quarterback,
or is second or third, and that wasn't cam Ward.
Yet He's picked number one because he's the quarterback. So
I give him a little bit of slack. I've been
all right with with what they've done. Don't think that
they have a bunch. He was all right and that
comeback with the Cardinals, But yeah, I think that he
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just kind of needed to rid himself of Brian Callahan
to really get a sent So I'm willing to give
him some slack, but I don't think he's been extremely
awful like he could have been. I concur Yeah, Well,
the Titans and Patriots will be playing Sunday in Nashville
in Week seven. On Thursday Night, it's the Steelers and Bengals,
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the team Brian Callahan came from before taking that Titans job.
In AFC North's showdown, these division matchups might just never
stop on Thursday night. Fantasy wise, Aaron Rodgers maybe on
a bit of a heater and Jamar Chase welcome back,
Good to see you. Joe Flacco also an opportunity to
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shine under the lights on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
They just give him the opportunity to go. It's not
quite the moon ball of Russell Wilson, but it's the
same effect. Right, Let's push the ball down the field.
We saw a little more of t Higgins, which is
always a good thing as well. Still waiting for that
breakout from Chase Brown. I don't know that we necessarily
are going to find it here on the short week.
Perhaps he gets a little more of a workload and
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against the Steelers front. But you know, flip side Aaron
Rodgers with a solid effort against the Cleveland Browns defense
in Week six, and we're seeing him distribute the ball
a bit. Jalen Warren coming back helps in the backfield
as a as a receiver for him as well. I
don't know that there's anybody on you know that I'm
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pushing heavy for. I think Rogers probably cracks the back
end of the QB ones or high QB twos. I
just think the ceiling's lower right, that they try to
grind out defense and maybe we see a little more
of the run game against the Bengals defense. But for
the Bengals, look, if you in the daily fantasy thing,
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you know Joe Flacco is going to keep throwing. Whether
that's good or bad in the final analysis, I don't know.
I mean, we'll play both both wide receivers, Chase Back
into his wr you know, a top ten and Higgins
at the back end of the twos. But beyond that,
you know, I think we're stretching.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So I'll tell you this. I was ready to pick
the Bengals in this game. But the reason I'm not is,
and this is going to contradict what I said in
preseason episodes. But without Trey Hendrickson, who's got that neck issue,
I just would be surprised on a short week if
he plays. I just think that makes it a lot
easier for Aaron Rodgers. But I think that it's a
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you know, a short week. I think I think it
benefits Cincinnati to play in this game. They're at home,
not that travels an issue, but with Pittsburg coming off
of a physical game against the Browns on a short week,
I think that could have played against them. But I
just don't know if since has enough to bother Rogers
on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, we get our guy Pickings back in and then
Gainwell has been a nice little fine for them out
of the backfield. Six catches this last week, so probably
still keeps a decent warkfload going forward short intermediate Rogers
getting the ball out fast keeps him upright. And right
now they're in the driver's seat in the division, So
it's all about succeed and proceed about that.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Do you think if Well, with this kind of being
the Steelers division to lose right now, if the Bengals
come out on Thursday night and beat them, do you
think that they kind of retake a little bit of
a driver's seat in the division because the Ravens aren't
doing anything. The Browns aren't doing anything. It's really just
between these two teams right now that the Bengals have
flat Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's fun, right you think about those first couple of weeks.
They weren't pretty wins, but they keep them in the game.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, this is if the Steelers go to five and one,
every team in that division would have five losses.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So that would.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Kind of be the nail in the coffin.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Huh, it would be difficult.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
The one thing that I would say, so your point
about if the Bengals win this, it's game on and
now Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Burrow's possible return.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
For people that have Joe Burrow later on in the
season that are holding on to him hoping for a
late season rebirth, absolutely, you know, absolutely, But if it
gets out of pocket. The tricky thing is is the
Ravens have been so bad right that you can't expect
them to completely turn it around. But if Lamar comes
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back after week seven, like we think he would, and Mike,
I think he's going to be back for the game
that you're going to be at when the Bears go
to Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I've been imploring him the last couple of weeks on
Baltimore radio, say hey, hey, I'm coming here for headliners.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, I mean the for the the Ravens schedule. Not
to be schedule guy.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But they've got the Dolphins ahead, They've got two games
against the Bengals. They haven't played the Steelers yet, so
it'd be very difficult. But if Baltimore went on a run,
they could maybe get back into the picture. It's just, yeah,
it's really tough to come back from four games back
when you're you know.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, because it's ten or eleven to go.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Because what's been interesting to watch right is we've got
a couple of weeks. We saw a couple of trades,
obviously Flacco being the headliner. We saw some other moves
right Newsome goes to Jacksonville. They're still in the market
for more secondary help, feeling they've got a chance, AFC
being the mess that it is, But you know, I've
seen Henry's name out there. We talked about Keaton Mitchell
(30:40):
a couple of weeks ago that he was a healthy
scratch for what two three weeks as to whether he
was a guy that they were saying, hey, maybe we
can go get a you know, a mid round pick
or two from these desperate Teamscau's a lot of teams
looking for running back help, running back depth that maybe
they they'd offset, and even Henry's name being mentioned a
(31:02):
little bit. Current struggles obviously ball security issues, but if
they hit that point of no return, that maybe they
they're real sellers come November fourth.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, if this was the the old like the Rams
put together a good run. Remember Pooka got hurt early
last year, they had dismal start to the to the season,
and then they put it together and come back and
win the the NFC West.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I think that's doable.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I just don't think that the Rams are nearly as
good of a team as the Rams were last year.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah, remember remember that when we were talking about that
and then all of a sudden, like they flipped a
switch and everything went right and thereafter.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, it's crazy, but there's games like they have a
game again if you look at their schedule, no disrespect,
but they if on a normal day they would beat
the Bears at home.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
If this is the.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, then they have a game against the Dolphins at Minnesota,
the Browns, Jets, Sorry, Ian, Bengals, Steelers Bengals. Those would
all be winnable games, with the Steelers at home, and
then you'd finished with New England Green Bay and then
the last game would be in Pittsburgh in Week eighteen.
But if it was the old Ravens and how we
viewed the Ravens coming into the season, that's win win win,
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win win.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
But they're just not the old Ravens right now.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Defenses, how long they keep that coordinator around?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right, Zach Kirby over sooner rather than later. They don't
have pieces either, especially with Matabek being done for the year.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeahicults. I lost that. That was tough, you know me.
I love my defensive tackles.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yes, yes, Well, the Bengals are our only hope to
keep the AFC North competitive. We'll see if they can
do it on Thursday night. That's going to do it
for us here and I want your flex. We'll be
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receiver positions. Ian's already working on the streaming defenses and
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Speaker 2 (33:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Week six is in the books.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hit Mike up at swallowdot. You can find me at
Dan Byer on Fox. And Ian Roddy is the executive producer.
You can find him at Ian Roddy Underscore. A week
that had a little bit of this, a little bit
of that, not too much excitement points wise in London.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It ends on a soggy night in the c Mike.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Week six is in the books, but with some uh,
with some infirmer reports that are stacked up to the ceiling.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, really just one after another and it's the wait
and see a lot of well maybe Week seven.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
When we talk about pukin Nakua, we know Ian's jets
already reeling and infighting. Garrett Wilson being at the heart
of it and going into halftime and now he's probably
gone for several weeks as the Jets try to figure
out what the second half of the season becomes. But
that's that's the story coming out of Week six for me,
(01:32):
Like even going in, you know, you were in with
us at the news desk, Dan, and the stat that
just stood out to me as we're already into the
our mid forties of different quarterbacks that have started a
game right that you know, obviously Joe Flacco, multiple teams,
but the fact that we're going to the fantasy infirmary
(01:54):
so often, the number of running backs that have left
games and next man up, and you know, just the
waiver wire is great and the churn has been great,
and if you're in a league that charges by transaction,
that pod is getting immense Yeah, by the mid season here,
because I know some folks that do that, right, the
(02:16):
fifty cents or a dollar per waiver wire transaction, and
it's like a pinball machine rolling up numbers. At this
point in the year.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's nice to have flexibility with your roster. I'm not
sure you guys like to put them together. But now
we're getting into bye weeks. In this past week, we
just had the Texans and Vikings on by next week,
only two teams, but I think you're going to be
missing some players because the Bills are on by and
the Ravens are on by as well. So those are
the two teams not playing in week seven. But you know,
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in my longtime league, we have one ir spot. I've
got Joe Burrow on that spot right there, but have
also had to deal with Mike Evans' absence and others.
And now when you start getting into the bye weeks
and you have some of these injuries and you're holding
on to certain guys that you're like, okay, it's three
to four weeks, some of these decisions on who to
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hold on to and who not to hold on to
become increasingly difficult. And at times you're also then just
trying to guess who isn't going to get hurt when
you're making some of these decisions on who to keep
and who not to keep. So depending on how many
roster spots you have, it's going to start to get
really tricky with the bench maneuvers, especially when we have
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a sixteen buy coming up in a week or two.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, it's been curious, and this came up in one
of my leagues, was a vote proposed to maybe allow
players declared out to be put into an IR spot.
I guess depending on the league settings and whatever service
you use, that may be an option. And it was
(03:53):
voted down. Interesting as if you're not officially on IR,
then just being out that's why you have a bench.
So if your league has cut the bench to where
that's an issue, then maybe that's something for your league constitution. Yeah,
the following year, because that's been the trend and we've
talked about it in the years doing the podcast, Dan
(04:14):
of I know in a lot of my leagues they've
shaved one or two bench slots to try to promote
that waiver activity. Not necessarily to increase the pot, but
just that you'd have more viable players potentially in the
player pool if you did suffer an injury, but that
it would create those hard decisions of all, right, do
I trust that this guy once he's back, reassumes a
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prominent role or is it a longer term, long long
standing injury to where maybe they don't become the top
target again, or I can't hoard five running backs that
are backups and handcuffs that I may have to put
one of those back into the pool, which allows someone
else maybe to play for depth, or maybe they're just
praying for a handful of carries because they're in have
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hit there as well. So it's that kind of strategical
thing and a conversation I think more leagues will have
going forward with the spate of injuries we've had.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, I was in a spot in another league where
there's only six bench spots Terry mclauren and Ricky Piersall
mclauren perfect example for this, has not been put on IR,
but doesn't seem like he's even been close to playing
a couple of times. There was some talk early in
the week prior to Week six that maybe he could
come back from Monday night, but that was shot down
(05:32):
relatively quickly. And while it fits into the commander's plans
to not have him on IR and try to work
him out, I think that's too bad that your league
voted it down, because I do think that there should
be the option if someone is out like that, then
you should be able to put them on injured reserve.
In a holdover league that we had that we would
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say in the past, guys got to be on your
roster the whole time. It's got to be some of
the you originally drafted. If you traded for him, there'd
be like other stuff, but there'd be a reason to
put someone on IR to want to keep there for
the whole time. Now there's in a non holdover league,
like I think that you absolutely should allow IR to
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be someone who's out two to three weeks or when
they're deemed out to your point to put them in
that spot. I think that that's we do this for fun, right,
And I understand that certain advantages are given to certain
people in certain ways, but I want to have fun.
And if one guy's getting screwed with his team and
(06:36):
it doesn't have any interest because he can't feel the
team anymore, that's not good for the league. So I
don't know what you voted for in your league, Mike,
I'm not sure, but I wish my league would have
done that, or at least have a setting that would
allow guys who are at least out multiple weeks but
not on IR to be able to be put on IR.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, I think as it got proposed, and I just
asked the question because it's one of these, you know
leagues across folks that do what we do podcasts or
writing columns. And it was one person that proposed it
because their team had been hit particularly hard and over
the time they had eradicated multiple roster spots. So now
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it's the ad back on because of players out like it, don't.
I don't know it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Because it happened to them, it became a.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Big deal and it's like the Packers with the toush push.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But it's the competitive league right to where folks are
writing on wins and losses and not that I do
it because look, I've got my show with Jason Smith,
and this is part of what we do and we
have fun with it. Obviously we're trying to help people
win and we want to win ourselves. But I'm not
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writing a lot of content about the leagues I'm playing in.
Nor am I putting up hey I won that like
writing giant missives of winning, sure leak. So if suddenly
I'm losing because my players are hurt well to some degree,
like look, I've taken my lumps before in these leagues.
It's unfortunate, right, It's like sometimes you don't have the breaks,
(08:18):
and you may have to make the hard decision if
a team is deciding and and look if you got
hit by like four or five of your top players,
I mean, you just have to admit that it's not
your lead your year. Yeah right, But you know, if
you're deciding between the guys you want to stash on
your bench, because the benches in these leagues are big
(08:39):
enough that you've decided, all right, you need to hold them.
It's like, well, no, like this is where the tough
choices have to be made. And you can write a
full column or do a full podcast of how you
came to this difficult decision because your number two or
number three receiver is out. But not on IR. I
(09:00):
think it's an opportunity from the content of here's how
I went about finding a replacement for this guy, and
I had to make a tough choice in terms of
what I was stashing. Yeah, and it's it's unfortunate, like
I think it Barrel narrowly got voted down. I didn't
care really much either way, but there were a couple
(09:21):
of folks that had very strong opinions on it one
way or the other.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I look at it because I in my longtime league,
we have one less bench spot than we do in
this in this other league where I had McLaurin, but
then the other league, I had Mike Evans. I'm also carrying.
I said, I put Joe Burrow on IR in that league.
I'm rotating quarterbacks. And not to tell you about my
fantasy team, because nobody cares about my fantasy team. But
(09:49):
if I've got three quarterbacks that I've been kind of
rotating and moving around, that's where I have to bite
my bullet right, like, you know, that's a luxury now
that I can't afford.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I shouldn't be able to. I shouldn't complain that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
There aren't enough spots if I'm carrying an XSS amount
of quarterbacks. I just look into the sixth you know,
the sixth bye week when it's going to be tough,
and then there are guys who maybe they're they're hurt,
but their team doesn't have a buy until week nine,
so they just got to get their team to that buy,
you know, like that's and it's what the what the
(10:25):
Ravens did with Lamar. You know they knew that a
buy coming up in week seven. That's whether there was
never a chance he was going to play in weeks
five or six, but you know, like to have that
opportunity to just you know, put that player at that
point if there are a bunch of teams on by.
That's just that's my issue with it. I think there comes,
(10:46):
you know, there's a line, and I guess that's the
problem with it, of just trying to to find where
that line is. But again, you're talking to a guy
who thinks that backup quarterbacks shouldn't you know, be able
to be put in if the starter is is hurt right,
or if the starter plays one quarter, you should get
three quarters of whoever the backup is of points in
that way, because I think that's like such a luck
(11:08):
of the draw guy. So I think sometimes I'm more
lenient with rules maybe than other people are. But I
also just try to look at the fun of the
game and trying to you know, keep people interested and
trying to keep people into the contest.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, but to that point, Dan, at one point, that
was a consideration. I remember when we had all working
at Yahoo all those years ago, was the idea of
the team quarterback, Like you're drafting a running back and
maybe you don't get their handcuff or whatever. Maybe you
don't want their handcuff, but from the quarterback perspective, you
would just have team quarterback. Sure, right, So if you
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drafted you know, Blobar Jackson or Joe Burrow. Like for
Joe Burrow you got team Cincinnati, so you got Browning
for a couple of weeks. Now you got Joe Flacco. Yeah,
for better or for worse, right, And if you decide
you want out of that entire system, then you're done
with it. But it also to a degree, you know,
it removes that I are consideration at least for the
(12:06):
quarterback possession. Then you have to decide whether the ancillary parts.
And I certainly don't mean to dismiss Jamar Chase T
Higgins and company, but you know, those affected by the
quarterback position, whether you know they're good enough to warrant
playing their backup right?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah? Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It is an interesting dilemma that that people will have
to try to sort out one way or another. I
like how different links do it. I do, even though
I don't agree with it, I do admire the league
that you're in, the steadfast of This is just the
way it's going to be. I don't always love that.
(12:47):
I feel sometimes in leagues people are just like tough crap.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah no, I mean it ended up being a really
great debate, kind of like the discussion we're having here,
Like you see, where you want to keep it competitive,
and particularly if it's not for heavy stakes and it's
you know, your friends or you know, say you're in
a Yahoo public league, that would be the best place
to have some more flexibility mm hmm or whatever service
(13:11):
public league, because there are folks that if it starts
going south, there's no incentive, they'll just say, all right,
I'm done with it. Now You've got a dead team.
So if it's going to keep them competitive, then yeah,
make the adjustment and give that flexibility.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
There's gosh, there's so many different, you know, things that
you can look at and things that you can do.
I the reason I like the the replacement is because
I also think it makes you make decisions about your bench,
where sometimes your bench decisions are just I need a
guy or I need a you know, maybe handcuff is
the opportunity with other positions, but at.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Quarterback maybe it wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
But uh yeah, there's just there's I think there's other
ways that things can be gone about to to draw interest,
and you know, we see it in guillotine leagues that
we talk about like there's a whole different way to
play fantasy and there's so many different versions of fantasy
football to keep you interested. So the games within the
games within the games and the rules within those games
are always an interesting conversation. We are going to take
(14:11):
a time out, hit my cup at Swollen. Don't find
Ian at Ian Roddy underscore. You can find me at
dan Byer on Fox Thursday Night preview Steelers taking on
the Bengals, plus a little bit more of the look
ahead next here, and I want your Flex. Well, Brian
Callahan didn't make it two week seven of his second season.
(14:32):
Welcome back it is, I want your Flex. That's Mike Krmen.
I'm Dan by Ian Roddy there as our executive producer.
Change in Nashville as the Callahan era ended after twenty
three games before we dive into the Thursday Night contest,
I'm going to call it the debacle in Nashville. It
has no rhyme or reason, but it just never ever
got on track for Brian Callahan and the Titans no.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I mean we certainly have had some of the warring
in the press, he and cam Ward going back and
forth a couple of weeks ago. You know, hey, you
know the kind of like with the TUA talking out
in front of a microphone and air in the dirty laundry,
Like some things need to be behind closed doors. Right,
you got an issue United front? Yeah, you can acknowledge
(15:17):
that there are issues that you're working through and leave
it at that right button buttoned up instead of calling out.
You know where your team is and you know, in
Ward's case, it was just they're terrible, Okay, us watching
the product can tell you that as the quarterback, you know,
this is where you take ownership and you talk about
where where you're building and try to spin some positive
(15:38):
as best you can. I still thought it was a
little curious to do it at this point, But the
last couple of years, I'm not quite so sure. They've
they've figured out what direction they want to go in Tennessee,
and this is more evidence of it. You know, defense
has played well in spots the offense is sputtering. Got
(15:59):
a bad lie. You know, Callahan's dad goes out the
door with him, But you're talking about retread wide receivers
or late round draft picks, guys that you had drafted
early didn't quite work out, and so I don't know
if we were expecting much of a better product at
this point.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'll tell you what I think is interesting, And because
there was a point where I thought it was going
to work with Brian Callahan and then he screamed at
Will Levis one point when Levis made a mistake and
it was a bad blunder and he.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Had some classics, you could put it together a comedy.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Well, Mike, that's my point. That's the point I'm about
to make here, is that it happened once, and then
it happened again, and then it happened again. And at
what point are you like, Okay, I need to actually
act like an NFL head coach. I can't yell at
Will Levis like he's a freshman in high school, you know,
like I just and do it on that TV. And
(17:01):
plus someone like Will Levis, who's I mean, you know,
swimming upstream and trying to you know, grab that job
and do whatever he can. There were some bright moments
prior to Brian Callahan coming along, but last year I
was on.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
The side of Brian Callahan. I thought it was going
to work. I thought he'd be able to.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Turn that offense around, but he never acted like a
head coach, and then he seemed to pick fights with
members of the media. And now when Jeffrey Simmons is
saying in the locker room that we probably had our
worst week of practice coming off of that crazy win
that they had against the Cardinals in Week five, like
it was, none of it made sense. And I think
(17:42):
the reason that they did it now is because they
may have been afraid Mike Rabel was going to try
to embarrass them, because here they go and play the
guy that they replaced him with, essentially, and now we
know that decision wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
There's a bad decision by the Titans.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
They can turn the page, but at least they can
save the embarrassment by not having Callahan.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
On the sidelines when they faced Mike Rabell in week seven.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Because right now you've got a Patriots squad that's starting
to come together and on both sides of the ball,
Drake may looks like that guy and the Bills are
reeling the opportunity for them to go take the division.
Is there but certainly defensively getting after whatever that offense
is for Tennessee right now, wouldn't be surprised if you
(18:31):
don't see a hey, you know what, take the two
step and just tuck it into the gut of either
running back forty five times. We'll just try to run
the clock out and keep it.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And if there's any coach that is going to spite
his former job, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's Mike Rable.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Oh absolutely, you know right.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Like if anybody's going to have that chip on his
shoulder to go in there to kick the crap out
of them, like, that's who it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Like the timing is funky in that aspect of when
they're gonna end up letting them go. They had to
buy coming up in a couple of weeks. November ninth
is their their bye weekend. But instead of waiting that
long and plus you lose to the Raiders, that's never good.
I feel that the timing is probably right. Now we'll
(19:17):
see if cam Ward plays a little bit better, see
how that running back you know, committee, if you will
know that ty J. Spears is back for the for
the Titans, Tony Poller did all right for them, but
they just hadn't gotten it going. But yeah, we'll see
where the Titans now turn because we've been forgetting the
Titans instead of remembering them.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So far, nicely done strong side, left side. There are
seven point underdogs at home, the over undersitting at forty
two and a half. Mike McCoy, welcome to another head
coaching gig.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And I always liked Mike McCoy. I know that Charger
fans kind of soured on him at the end. Fans
soured on a lot of their head coaches, maybe some
no fault of their own, but I didn't mind McCoy,
but it just kind of got it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Got blah with the Charges at the end of his
ten year.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, I mean there were a couple of years. I
mean you look at some of the rankings that come
out and obviously it's Philip Rivers, so you borderline Hall
of Famer depending on where you want to fight that battle. Long,
long list of quarterbacks that might be ahead of him
never got over the top. But I mean the average
three hundred and sixty six yards a game, that's top
(20:29):
ten in total offense. This comes from Titans Dot com
and they were second and third down percentage. Now it's lofty,
lofty goals for cam Ward and what this iteration of
an offense is, but it shows proof of concept anyway.
So maybe with a camber Head, a little older guy
who's been through the Wars, who's not look he obviously
(20:52):
would like the job, but it's not you know, clinging
on like Callahan. Or go back to Gannon with the
Deember cop thing a week ago where you could see
the pressure valve like he needed a release instead of
you know, going in a costing his running back. With McCoy,
I think you get a more calm headed approach to it,
(21:12):
level headed, and maybe a different messaging is all they
need to at least get to some level of stability.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I typed in the two to YouTube Brian Callahan screaming
and do you get a super cut? It hit auto
corrected to Brian Callahan yelling at Will Levis.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yes, well remember that play against the Bears going down
and he kind of flipped it towards the sideline that
the guy caught in stride and sprinted to the end
like that. One will always.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Just be my favorite is the still of him on
his knees with the boat a hand, both hands on
his head after he threw an interception. I don't remember
which team.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I think that was it. I think that's the one, so.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Brutal, tough times. You can also search Brian Callahan upset
with Will Levis. Will Will auto filled that sort of deal.
I'm looking at a highlight right now is against the Jets.
Last season.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
There was one against the Jets.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I don't remember exactly what happened, but I remember he
had a bad one against them, some kind of fumble.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I think, yeah, this is a family show. But you
can hear Brian Callahan, or you can read Brian Callahan's
lips to Will Levis saying what the eff are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But he didn't say yeah, there you go. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Called Will Levis said his plays were dumb or some
made dumb decisions.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, Will Levis is having a week. All right, good
for good for Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Well, speaking of McCoy too, you guys like how it
took the Titans like five hours to actually announce who
you the interim head coach was going to be. It
was like they didn't have a plan. They were like,
all right, let's fire him and then we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I think nobody wanted it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, someone finally didn't step backwards or forwards depending on
what they asked.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Were you know, everyone else stepped back and he was
the only one left. So that Williams, you know, volunteering.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Mike mentioned it earlier. But with his dad, Bill being
on staff, I'm sure that there's a bunch of stuff
they have to figure out as well, because there's no
way that he's sticking around, you know two, So there's
probably the steps. But you're right because I when the
news broke, I come on winning, I'm like, well, who's
going to take over? And then it was a couple
of hours until they finally ended up announcing it.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
But it would have been funny if his dad got
named the interim coach.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
With that, hey, then his dad names Brian offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
But chaos ensues.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yes, right, well, I thought things are going to work
out when he came over from Cincinnati, and they did not.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
But what do you think of Cam warned at this point,
like we talked about it for a couple of minutes,
Smith and I, I just don't know that the guy's
been given much of a chance.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I still believe in him. I still do. I liked
him a lot coming out of college. Yeah, he think
he's like he's just his he thinks the right way,
you know, just holding everyone accountable. I can tell he's not. Uh,
there's no war.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You love that Chador clip when Shador wanted to do
stuff with like the camera as a camboards, like I
just want.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
To throw a football.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
No, I give him a I don't want to say
a bit of a pass because I don't think that
he is the normal number one overall pick because he wasn't.
He wasn't a top ten prospect in this past draft, right,
and there were people who had him outside I should
say top five, so maybe had him at eight or seven.
But there are times when we go into a draft
(24:46):
class where the quarter the top prospect is the quarterback,
or is second or third, and that wasn't cam Ward.
Yet He's picked number one because he's the quarterback. So
I give him a little bit of slack. I've been
all right with with what they've done. Don't think that
they have a bunch. He was all right and that
comeback with the Cardinals, But yeah, I think that he
(25:07):
just kind of needed to rid himself of Brian Callahan
to really get a sent So I'm willing to give
him some slack, but I don't think he's been extremely
awful like he could have been. I concur Yeah, Well,
the Titans and Patriots will be playing Sunday in Nashville
in Week seven. On Thursday Night, it's the Steelers and Bengals,
(25:28):
the team Brian Callahan came from before taking that Titans job.
In AFC North's showdown, these division matchups might just never
stop on Thursday night. Fantasy wise, Aaron Rodgers maybe on
a bit of a heater and Jamar Chase welcome back,
Good to see you. Joe Flacco also an opportunity to
(25:48):
shine under the lights on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
They just give him the opportunity to go. It's not
quite the moon ball of Russell Wilson, but it's the
same effect. Right, Let's push the ball down the field.
We saw a little more of t Higgins, which is
always a good thing as well. Still waiting for that
breakout from Chase Brown. I don't know that we necessarily
are going to find it here on the short week.
Perhaps he gets a little more of a workload and
(26:13):
against the Steelers front. But you know, flip side Aaron
Rodgers with a solid effort against the Cleveland Browns defense
in Week six, and we're seeing him distribute the ball
a bit. Jalen Warren coming back helps in the backfield
as a as a receiver for him as well. I
don't know that there's anybody on you know that I'm
(26:36):
pushing heavy for. I think Rogers probably cracks the back
end of the QB ones or high QB twos. I
just think the ceiling's lower right, that they try to
grind out defense and maybe we see a little more
of the run game against the Bengals defense. But for
the Bengals, look, if you in the daily fantasy thing,
(27:00):
you know Joe Flacco is going to keep throwing. Whether
that's good or bad in the final analysis, I don't know.
I mean, we'll play both both wide receivers, Chase Back
into his wr you know, a top ten and Higgins
at the back end of the twos. But beyond that,
you know, I think we're stretching.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So I'll tell you this. I was ready to pick
the Bengals in this game. But the reason I'm not is,
and this is going to contradict what I said in
preseason episodes. But without Trey Hendrickson, who's got that neck issue,
I just would be surprised on a short week if
he plays. I just think that makes it a lot
easier for Aaron Rodgers. But I think that it's a
(27:43):
you know, a short week. I think I think it
benefits Cincinnati to play in this game. They're at home,
not that travels an issue, but with Pittsburg coming off
of a physical game against the Browns on a short week,
I think that could have played against them. But I
just don't know if since has enough to bother Rogers
on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, we get our guy Pickings back in and then
Gainwell has been a nice little fine for them out
of the backfield. Six catches this last week, so probably
still keeps a decent warkfload going forward short intermediate Rogers
getting the ball out fast keeps him upright. And right
now they're in the driver's seat in the division, So
it's all about succeed and proceed about that.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Do you think if Well, with this kind of being
the Steelers division to lose right now, if the Bengals
come out on Thursday night and beat them, do you
think that they kind of retake a little bit of
a driver's seat in the division because the Ravens aren't
doing anything. The Browns aren't doing anything. It's really just
between these two teams right now that the Bengals have
flat Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's fun, right you think about those first couple of weeks.
They weren't pretty wins, but they keep them in the game.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, this is if the Steelers go to five and one,
every team in that division would have five losses.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So that would.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Kind of be the nail in the coffin.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Huh, it would be difficult.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
The one thing that I would say, so your point
about if the Bengals win this, it's game on and
now Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Burrow's possible return.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
For people that have Joe Burrow later on in the
season that are holding on to him hoping for a
late season rebirth, absolutely, you know, absolutely, But if it
gets out of pocket. The tricky thing is is the
Ravens have been so bad right that you can't expect
them to completely turn it around. But if Lamar comes
(29:37):
back after week seven, like we think he would, and Mike,
I think he's going to be back for the game
that you're going to be at when the Bears go
to Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I've been imploring him the last couple of weeks on
Baltimore radio, say hey, hey, I'm coming here for headliners.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay, I mean the for the the Ravens schedule. Not
to be schedule guy.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
But they've got the Dolphins ahead, They've got two games
against the Bengals. They haven't played the Steelers yet, so
it'd be very difficult. But if Baltimore went on a run,
they could maybe get back into the picture. It's just, yeah,
it's really tough to come back from four games back
when you're you know.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, because it's ten or eleven to go.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Because what's been interesting to watch right is we've got
a couple of weeks. We saw a couple of trades,
obviously Flacco being the headliner. We saw some other moves
right Newsome goes to Jacksonville. They're still in the market
for more secondary help, feeling they've got a chance, AFC
being the mess that it is, But you know, I've
seen Henry's name out there. We talked about Keaton Mitchell
(30:40):
a couple of weeks ago that he was a healthy
scratch for what two three weeks as to whether he
was a guy that they were saying, hey, maybe we
can go get a you know, a mid round pick
or two from these desperate Teamscau's a lot of teams
looking for running back help, running back depth that maybe
they they'd offset, and even Henry's name being mentioned a
(31:02):
little bit. Current struggles obviously ball security issues, but if
they hit that point of no return, that maybe they
they're real sellers come November fourth.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, if this was the the old like the Rams
put together a good run. Remember Pooka got hurt early
last year, they had dismal start to the to the season,
and then they put it together and come back and
win the the NFC West.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I think that's doable.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I just don't think that the Rams are nearly as
good of a team as the Rams were last year.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah, remember remember that when we were talking about that
and then all of a sudden, like they flipped a
switch and everything went right and thereafter.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, it's crazy, but there's games like they have a
game again if you look at their schedule, no disrespect,
but they if on a normal day they would beat
the Bears at home.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
If this is the.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, then they have a game against the Dolphins at Minnesota,
the Browns, Jets, Sorry, Ian, Bengals, Steelers Bengals. Those would
all be winnable games, with the Steelers at home, and
then you'd finished with New England Green Bay and then
the last game would be in Pittsburgh in Week eighteen.
But if it was the old Ravens and how we
viewed the Ravens coming into the season, that's win win win,
(32:14):
win win.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
But they're just not the old Ravens right now.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Defenses, how long they keep that coordinator around?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right, Zach Kirby over sooner rather than later. They don't
have pieces either, especially with Matabek being done for the year.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeahicults. I lost that. That was tough, you know me.
I love my defensive tackles.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yes, yes, Well, the Bengals are our only hope to
keep the AFC North competitive. We'll see if they can
do it on Thursday night. That's going to do it
for us here and I want your flex. We'll be
back at the end of the week. Michael have his
top five rankings for the quarterback, running back to wide
receiver positions. Ian's already working on the streaming defenses and
I'll have a Survivor pick for you as well. So
for Ian Roddy and Mike Karman, I'm Dan Byer. We
(33:00):
need to talk to you next time, right here, and
I want your flash m
Speaker 2 (33:10):
M hmm
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