September 8, 2025 • 41 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! On today's show, Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon recap a wild Week 1 of the NFL season (pre-Monday Night Football) through a fantasy lens... Who were the week's biggest winners and losers? Who were the biggest surprises? The guys go game by game, breaking it all down!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Just when you thought Week one couldn't get any crazier,
the Ravens and Bills take the field. Welcome in. It
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
Isn't that correct?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We'll get the blue Sky stuff later, but let's get
to the game that the game that everyone already Mike
is saying, the game of twenty twenty five Bills and Ravens.
What a night if you had any of the big
name players in that Sunda night affair that saw the
Bills rally from that fifteen point deficit to grab that
one point win.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Just insanity all around, Like we had chaos all day long,
going back to the Thursday and Friday games, right this
guy carted off before snap one, spitting on Sunday we
got the green implement found its way to the National
Football League. But the Unders were eleven and two. No
worries in this one, as we had fireworks galore. Derrick Henry,
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who was brilliant, has a fumble that gives breathes in life,
and Josh Allen fantasy owners got to capitalize if you
started Dalton Kincaid, you got some love down the stretch,
Zay Flower, you name it. The Lamar Jackson scramble. That
might go down as one of the greatest plays not
on a video game system, that we've ever seen. So
just glorious all around. And hopefully folks didn't go to
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sleep because that one started getting pretty laid into the night.
And I can imagine after a full day of football.
I mean, look, you're still in preseason mode if you're
watching as a fantasy owner and watching the NFL. I mean,
that's a lot of football before that one, which gave
you an extra what forty five minutes of football. For
those final five minutes of action, it.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Was crazy, it really was.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And just when he thought that the Ravens had it,
they didn't and then the enda Derrek Henry fumble. Then
you get a stop and it was like the Bills
were perfect, and in fact, you can say that the
Bills were quite lucky. And that's kind of where I
want to go to one of their players, Keon Coleman,
And this is where I'm this is where I'm so
torn on Coleman because if you remember a couple of
years back when the Bills had Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis.
(02:44):
I guess they have Gabe Davis now, but you know
what I mean, when they were really the one too.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I was high on Gabe Davis because I just thought
I'll take him as a number two if we're playing
number twos across the league. Like I was all for
Gabe Davis, and he just didn't reach up to the
pro activity that I had wanted. Now we're sitting there
in Buffalo and we don't even know who the number
one is, but Keon Coleman showed it last night. Yet
you have the deflection that he ends up catching for
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a touchdown, so that's his touchdown, but then he gets
tripped up at the end where he maybe could have scored. Like,
are we looking at Keon Coleman now like bona fide
w R one with this Bills team?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I think as we go forward, like it's also
a matter of I think a little bit of circumstance
to a degree, right, you're not going to get into
giant forty one forty shootouts, Although that defense we had
questions about it coming into the year, Dan, I mean
from the real football and fantasy purposes of what that
back seven would look like and what you might be
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able to do a little slow, a little long in
the tooth and a little banged up. But for Keon Coleman,
you get to you of the eleven targets, you know,
and I think for Josh Allen it becomes the all
right outside of Kincaid if healthy and stuff in the
ball in the gut of James Cook. You're trying to
find guys that can be electric after the cat, and
certainly Coleman can. Yeah, getting tripped up down the end
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again the fantasy versus reality split, right, It's like he's
gonna sprint to day lines like, no, he's tripped up. Well,
that's actually good for the Bills, but for fantasy owners,
that's another what seven and a half points that went
out the window for you there. But yeah, so I
would say from a target camp, I would fully expect
him to be the lead. Shakier is interesting, but he's
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more the safety valve guy. Yes, Colman gets to be
that deep threat, that big pop for Josh Allen to
go get it, so I think he wins out.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think we've seen enough of Khalil Shakira, and I
actually mean this in a positive way where we do
know his role. Like last year, we thought, well, who knows,
because he was the year prior where he was really
like the third option, but he ended up being the
most reliable option. And then because of the players that
they had leave after last year, including Stefan Diggs, the
aforementioned Stefan Diggs, we were wondering, all right, how is
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this gonna work out in Buffalo? And Shakira is what
Seki is. But Josh Allen's gonna throw for thirty eight
hundred forty three hundred yards this year. Somebody's got to
catch him and it's probably gonna be key on Coleman.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, what'll be interesting to see is game to game
because you also had nine targets for Josh Palmer coming over,
so you get a little bit of an equity. I mean, eleven,
nine and nine are the targets for those three guys
spreading the ball around against that Baltimore d And you know,
frantic comeback mode creates some strange opportunities along the way.
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So you know, we'll figure out where, you know, the
the level really is after we get another game or
two under the belt, but certainly for waiver Wire purposes,
any of those guys I think needs to be stashed
at this point. If Josh Allen's the guy triggering the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm not going to raise it to panic level. But
the last player I want to talk about in this
game was Mark Andrews. I mean, we can talk about Lamar,
we talk about Derek Henry and Josh all We're going
to play all those guys, we know we are, But
I had Mark Andrews in a league one target, one catch,
five yards noisia likely. I know that the game flow
didn't necessarily go but this is a little reminiscent of
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what we had last year in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, disappointing on a number of levels. And yeah, game
flow as you say, with a big lead and the
run game playing so well. Unfortunately, you don't get any
points for blocking, right. We saw it in a bunch
of other games, like there were clear points where guys
got rewarded, like may Or for the Raiders, had a
couple of huge blocks early in the game. Guess whose
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number got called for pass pass targets later. We watched
that in the Thursday and Friday games. Go back to
Thursday when we were talking about Dotson getting a couple
of balls down the field, that was because he made
a couple of big blocks in the run game. So
we're seeing that, you know, we risk your body gets
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some reward. Unfortunately from Mark Andrews, that did not translate
into fantasy goodness for this one. So and and I
guess that that would become a little more of the
concern going forward. Likely will be back, so you'll you'll
split whatever targets are there. But I think you know
you're gonna have a lot of games where this is
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the script, right, how much can you get? Derek Henry,
they didn't even have Keaton Mitchell for this one, he
was down. You look overall twenty nine carries, the two
hundred and thirty eight yards and three scores, Lamar Jackson
just fourteen completions. They just getting that, I think, I fear.
I mean, and look, he's gonna get his rushing yards,
so you're gonna get your fantasy points. I mean, that's
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gonna his thing will work. But for those the receiving corps, yeah,
I think it becomes a little more of a hand
ringing situation. DeAndre Hopkins had the touchdown reception, but wasn't
I mean, he was two for two. I mean, so
you're you're talking about a receiving corps as a whole
that week to week is going to be riding the lightning.
I think Mark Andrews unfortunately, and not because of the drop,
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because that immediately became he's still in the doghouse, Like
it's if he was still in the doghouse, they would
have cut his ass. Yes, okay, like if that's really
how how deep and penetrated that that was, then then
he would have been gone. So, I mean, he'll have
bigger days, but it might be a little more ride
the lightning kind of circumstance.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's funny Baltimore the ball for about twenty five minutes
against Buffalo. That was not the case with the Lions
and Packers. The Packers only had the ball for twenty
five minutes in their game against the Lions, so the
Lions had possession quite a bit, they just didn't do
anything with it. Let's look at that game, Packers and Lions.
Green Bay gets the twenty seven to thirteen win. What
you're going to see on what you've saw in the
NFL network and Sports Center and everywhere is Micah Parsons
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chasing down Jared Goff.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But what you're also then not seeing are.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Great plays by Jamior Gibbs, great place by David Montgomery,
great plays by Aman Ross Saint Brown. A clunker of
a game with the Lions. Do we chalk this up
to new coordinator, division rival or is there more concern
in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, what was interesting is there was the note that
was on the telecast as well that they had the
overriding senses of how they reported on the Lion's staff
that they were more excited that Kenny Clark was gone
than worrying about Micah Parsons. We talked about it after
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the trade. I mean, Kenny Clark was a great player,
he at this point diminishing asset. But the fact that
that would have been an issue, well, okay, then that
meant you should have been able to run the ball right. Instead,
it's twenty carries for forty four yards. Nothing explosive. In
the past game, Jared Goff seemed off the I mean
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he finished his thirty one to thirty nine, but his
the average depth of thrower was like four point two
yards or something per target, So not a lot in
the process. Good job by the Packers defense. So I
think maybe we go a little bit to the matchup
and say better days. But how fast does it rally
together for fantasy owners? Right?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's the bigger question. It's like from a straight football
the three of us, you know, analyzing the course of
the year, it's like, yeah, they got too many weapons,
they'll be okay, but week to week trying to figure
out when that explosiveness comes except for the obvious weeker teams, Yeah,
it's gonna be tough sledding and the new coordinator thing,
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I mean, you've had months to work together. I don't
know how much that plays anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's interesting because if you had Jami or gibbson a
PPR league did all right for you had ten receptions,
but you also weren't banking on the only nineteen yards
rushing in that contest. And then I mean, you talk
about game flow. They're down seventeen to three at the
end of the half, doesn't mean doesn't mean you need
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to abandon the run, but it just wasn't there for them.
And the Kenny Clark Micah Parsons comment, Mike, I don't
blame them for saying that, because I actually thought that
myself when the trade was done. I'm like, who you're
trying to beat in the NFC North Sure, Detroit will
if they had their druthers, would probably want to run
the ball. So how much will this affect? And all
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the highlights were of Parsons and Parsons of the because
we were on the air, and the spots that I
saw was effective. But it seems that he was getting
quite the rave reviews on social media. The point is is,
I don't think that the lines were necessarily wrong. I
just don't know if you say that stuff out loud,
and now that becomes in the rematch when that can
be used for you know, fuel the fire. Maybe Detroit
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will have a better plan, but it doesn't seem like
they committed to the run Jared Goffler at thirty nine
times and so if you don't have Kenny Clark, just
run the ball down their throats.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But well that's it, right, you end up going into
a short passing game. And I get it, you're down,
but you got two runners that are explosive, right, I
mean we've been talking the Sonic and Knuckles stuff all
the time. By the way, did you acknowledge your tribal
chief Roman Reigns like Micah Parsons did after his sack?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I did not. I missed it. I didn't even see it.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But I mean it is curious though, for the course
of this game, right, with those ten receptions, you end
up having a pretty good game in BPR leagues for
Jamior Gimes, like certainly not the explosiveness of those final
six to eight weeks of last year, but he's still
with Monday Night's game between the Bears and the Vikings,
Pending still ended up as a back end RB one
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despite the struggle.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Did he yell acknowledge me?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
My WWE depth of knowledge isn't great, but I know
that there is some acknowledging that needed to be going on.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Is that what we needed to do with Micah Parsons.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, I think they were really trying to sell you
on it as best you can. And I have to
wonder again though, but going back to the booth and
the Kenny Clark little admission, are those of the things
you're not supposed to talk about. Like I understand that
once they run the trick play or the different formation
or whatever, you get to let the cat out of
the bag of Yeah, this was something they worked on
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during the course of the week. They said they had
a special thing cooked up for player X whatever. But
something like that, shouldn't that still be under wraps?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah? I think it's I didn't I didn't hear the comment.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I just read it in text when it was put
on social media, and I think that it was meant
to be a compliment to Kenny Clark. And when you
say it out loud, you like it probably came off
who whether it was Nance or Romo, I don't know
who said it, or Tracy Wolfson, whoever, whoever said it.
I'm sure it probably came out their tongue and they
wanted the words back because it sure does sound disrespectful,
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and in a way, it kind of sounds flippant, right,
you know where I don't think that that's what the
Lions intended, I'm guessing, but it just sounded flippant to me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, and that's the thing, right, there was something you know,
even in the preseason the Fox telecast, when Greg Olsen
started letting out little things of what the coaches were
saying for plans for players and the Bears. It's like,
I think that's kind of just filing in the back
that you're eventually going to see it, not that to
lay it out as so like that's the curiosity, right,
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We're where's that curtain and when you pull it away?
But yeah, for me, as Bear's guy, it's curious to
watch that part of the chess match unfold. I mean,
because remember Virginia mccaskey's last last football game she watched
was the Bears actually beating the Packers, So that means
we're due for another thirty year streak.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, I'll wrap up this Packers lines conversation this way.
Matthew Golden was thought to be the answer. In Green Bay,
Jordan Love had sixteen completions on Sunday to ten different receivers.
There wasn't a receiver that had more than three catches,
and that was only Jayden Reid. Jaden Reid led Green
Bay in receptions with three. Romeo Dobbs had the big
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forty eight yard catch, but otherwise it was much of
the same in Green Bay with the wide receivers. Even
with Christian Watson still trying to come back, you had
Matthew Golden, the balls being spread around, and I don't
know in Green Bay if you're ever going to get
the production that you desire from a true WR one.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It looks like we're gonna have that night graphic again
where they need the second screen to show you how
many of receivers and running backs have caught for I
have gone for at least four hundred receiving yard. Yes,
it's such a you remember that graphic, right and final
couple weeks of the season. Look at the distribution.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, it was put up as a good thing, and
I'm not sure if it was.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, I think at some point you need that guy
that you say he can go get it. I'm still
waiting to figure out who that is. Although getting John
Fitzpatrick and Saveon Williams into the box score is good
for business.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
We're gonna go around the rest of the Week one
in the NFL and what happened on Sunday. It even
touch a little bit on Friday and Thursday as well
from what happened with the games. He's Mike Carmen, I'm
Dan Bayer, that's Ian Roddy. It's all up next year
and I want your flex. Let's take a look at
the rest of week one. He is Mike Carmen, I'm
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Dan Bayer, that's Ian Roddy. This is I want your flex.
I will say, we don't even need to talk about
Thursday because we did in a previous pod Man. It
seems so long ago after the long weekend. That's what
Oasis does to you, Mike Harmon, that's oh was that show?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Did you rub elbows with any Luminaries? Because it seemed
like every other seed had somebody of great acclaim.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We were so high up we didn't have the opportunity to.
But it was still great to be in the building
and good for you. Yes, it was a great time.
Something a theme on the show that we had talked
about last year. Each of my picks were two an
Oasis song and we were able to come full circle
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Night, full circle moment.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yes, absolutely, I.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Tell you that I had envy. It was not one
of the bands that was on my short list right
of bands I listened to at their peak. But as
this tour started ramping up and you're getting more play
and getting back into it, and just the excitement around
the city as they were still getting ready to come
to this date, Dan, because I mean, I think there
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were odds all over the world, at different odds makers
that they would never happen, and there it was. As
soon as they played a note, all those bets cast.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yes, it was amazing. And they only played five dates
in the States. They played once in your home home
down of Chicago, two in New York, and then they
had two out here in LA and then they'll go
to Mexico and do some stuff in Asia and Australia
and South America as well.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So good stuff. Yes, like a great time.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yes, it helped ease the pain of the dullness of
the Seahawks for me. On Sunday forty nine ers, though
Ricky Piersall showing to be the role that many had
hoped he would be in drafts Jackson Smith and Jigma.
For as bad as the Seahawks were, Jackson Smith in
Jigbot was at least a bright spot. And now there's
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some questions about the Seahawks backfield on is it Zach
Scharbonay or is it Kenneth Walker. So some good and
some bad from that Niners went over the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Welcome to sharbon a time. I mean, one of those
guys that'll be a hot pickup on the waiver wire.
How he's on waivers, I don't know, but looking at
some of the reports nearly half of league's you can
go find Zach Charbonay ahead of the first waiver claims
of the new year. Twelve carries forty seven yards, the
touchdown Walker active a little in the past game. Not
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much coming out from Sam Darnald in that one, which
had anybody that really didn't like Sam Donald because of
a game or two last year thumping their chests like
it's game one. It's a division opponent, it's a forty
nine er defense that we expected to be good. So
all of that with a grain of salt, does it
make you feel any better? So think more of the
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Oasis songs you really sang along with Dan. But all
of that to say, yeah, I think Sharbonnay becomes that
guy Ricky Piersoll four for one oh eight. I'd like
that we now just call him second year receiver and
we don't have to talk about circumstances before he started
taking snaps last year. But Christian McCaffrey, the fact that
he had thirty one touches in this game, that's the
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one that jumps off to me, right the twenty two
carries sixty nine yards. But the fact that he did
have nine catches I felt slightly validated in my argument
of how his year would bank. And they do have
a big concern and that George Kittle leaves the game
well out to see how long that injury lingers. Because
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while he is one of their key pass catchers for
for twenty five, did have the touchdown before departing. I mean,
we know about his run blocking efficiency. That's a huge
loss for that offense.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'll tell you if Tanjas is just going to jump
ball everybody and steal footballs from the way of you know,
Terik Willen maybe the Niners would be Okay, a tenant.
I'm just kidding. I'm just bitter about Terrek Willen's defense.
Let's jump from that game to another team that won
in the NFC West. That was the Rams over the Texans.
Texans couldn't get into the end zone, had to settle
for field goals. When the Rams did get into the
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end zone, it was Kyen Williams.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Again.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Most notable to me was how was Puka and Akua
and DeVante Adams gonna work out? Maybe kind of like
how we thought in the preseason, Puka obviously taking the
slot of WR one with Adams in Stafford maybe not
necessarily on the same page right away, but Puka kind
of stealing the show when it comes to receiving yards.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well, we know in between the twenties, it becomes the
get the ball to him and make plays. They've got
that continuity, the consistency of route running and Adams second
half you started to see the shots come his way.
You know, it's this whole season is predicated on Matthew
Stafford's back. As much as I love Jimmy Garoppolo because
he's a South sich Chicago guy and loves the White
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Sox like me. But all of that say, you know,
and he's been there, he's done that, so the drop
off wouldn't necessarily be the same as for so many
other tenuous situations for backups across the league. But the
fact that Kyron Williams out touched from the running game
perspective Blake corm eighteen to one was a little surprising, right,
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a lot of stuff this offseason that perhaps, even after
getting paid, they'd now, you know, make sure that Williams
was not carrying too much of an early season load.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Stafford had more cars. Stafford had more carries than Cool.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
No, that's right, right, or for his minus too, that's
that's a good goal being But yeah, that's which, which
is something you never want to see in a box
score with Matthew Stafford, get down, get down. Hopefully you
know they all count when they're Neil Dance. But for
Nikua picking up right where he left off when healthy,
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remains that highly targeted, highly efficient option. I think that's
the thing that that we take away from there. It's
not always going to be massive gains, but you get
ten catches PPR gold.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
They should just tally Stafford stats and feet instead of
yards because he's only going to go so far.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Unfortunately tall is what is he like six three?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So we get two yards plus.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Unfortunately, the Texans didn't go anywhere. If you had Nico Collins,
he was a disappointment. We did get the sense there
was more Nick Chubb than anybody else, So it seems
like Nick Chubb is the guy, not necessarily Damian Pierce
or Wood he marks digging into that. It is weak
one of but at least it gives us a little
bit early barometer.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Stroud throwing a lot to the tight ends in that contest,
but at some point Nico Collins is going to break out.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, Rams defensive front did the job as you would
expect here. I didn't expect fireworks from the Texans offense
certainly did not expect the slugfest we got here. I
thought we'd get a little bit more activity. But look,
as long as it's close late, because what all but
like maybe two or three games, I don't have this
slate in front of me of final scores. But I
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mean everything was close late, so we got some fantastic finishes.
And it's also a reason where a lot of people
are fighting to get rid of kickers in fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Well, and I'll also say this, at least with the
Denver Broncos in their win against the Titans, you had
that backfield.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Dobbins ends up scoring the big touchdown for them, but R. J.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Harvey ended up having the big run for them for
fifty yards. Courtland Sutton ended up being the main guy.
Not too much surprised. With Denver and with the Titans
you were likely only playing Pollard anyway, maybe some Calvin Ridley.
Ridley got a lot of targets, so hopefully if you
have Calvin Ridley, that'll pay off that cam Ward was
looking for him a lot yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I mean, look, they also have to secure the ball,
so we'll order some Stickham gloves.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Right, at least four that you would count. Well, I
mean as a team, that's not terrible. I mean that
just ties ceed lamb ah too soon. But all in all,
on both sides for cam Ward and for bow Nicks.
And then bow Nicks struggled twenty five of forty for
his one to seventy six touchdown to two. Right, everybody
wanted to crown. I'm like, no, there's some growing pains
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Tennessee hung around. Was it pretty No? A lot of sacks,
tons of turnovers in this game. But to your point,
Calvin Ridley, we keep waiting for him to be the
guy certainly fits the profile, so perhaps he gets to
rise up. And Tony Pollard, I think is going to
be for fantasy owners that went and grabbed him as
an RB two, I think you're gonna be pretty happy
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with that. Weekly.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
He is Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer. That's Ian Roddy,
our executive producer. Time for another time out here, and
I want your flex. When we come back, we'll give
our report cards, what we hit and what we missed
on for the week plus, we'll each highlight something from
the early games that we thought stand out that could
help you in your fantasy quest to victory. That's next
here and I want your flex. We'll give our report
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cards here and what we hit and maybe what we
missed on. But he's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byer, that's
Ian Roddy. Guys, what stood out for you in the
early window of the slate in week one. Mike, I'll
start with you some outcomes that we're surprising, some not
so surprising. What stood out for you in that early
window of Week one, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Think that the fact that we had and I alluded
to it a little early back in segment one, was
just the fact that the Unders were hitting and you
know where you don't expect Chris play all around, but
perhaps you expect more jail breaks in terms of mistackles,
slip tackles to where we get some extra points tacked on,
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and opportunities that didn't happen a Week one, we saw
a lot of these offenses look a little bit disjointed,
like it was truly a first game. I don't know,
do we have it, Do we get an argument for
another preseason game where guys are forced to play contractually,
I don't know. But all of it to say, you know,
when we look at the final stat lines to thing,
(25:29):
I mean, Ian, I'm just gonna steal your guy, So
think of something else. I mean, justin fields, the justin fields,
Aaron Rodgers. We were supposed to have paint drying, and
we got one of the most entertaining games the day
right with both of those guys coming in fields heading
into Monday night. Football is the number two quarterback and
Aaron Rodgers has to figure out how to make every
(25:51):
week a revenge game.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
So right, so much so that it makes us question
the Steelers defense. Now now I'm like, are they too old?
This is what we've got it again. It's week one.
Not meant to disrespect Justerer Fields or the Jets, but
I thought he would have a tough time with.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It, and it was anything but well.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Cam Hayward got his extra money by complaining I gotta
feed my family.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
And he was on the field. He was on the
field on Sunday. So yes, the will see was all
all part of the deploy I'll tell you what stood
out for me was not to pat myself on the back.
But I just told you that I liked Michael Pennix.
And Pennix ends up only throwing for one touchdown but
has near three hundred yards and the Buccaneers shut down
(26:38):
the Falcons running game. And another people that want Beijon
Robinson to get thirty two carries a game, I don't
think that that's their goal. I think it's he's going
to get twenty. You know, it's twenty five touches a game, right,
whether they come in the receiving game where the rushing game,
is it gonna matter? And that's about where he was.
He had seven targets, had six receptions, and then the
twelve carries. It was the Rake London commitment that was
(27:01):
pretty amazing. Fifteen targets for the Falcons. They only have
massed fifty five yards on those fifteen targets on the
eight catches. But this is kind of the Falcons that
I thought that we would see Mike. I didn't think
that we would see this ground and pound of Bijean
and Algier. I thought they would be throwing the football more.
(27:22):
And game script, I know allows, especially in the late
couple of minutes when you're trying to put points on
the board, it does alter things, but I didn't think
that this was altered as much. And in a game
against the division rival, to have your second your quarterback
do what he did, I think is a good sign
for people who have Falcons shares moving forward.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh, I would agree, all right, And you even got
some love for Kyle Pitts. Didn't find the end zone? Right,
You get seven catches for fifty nine yards in a
look in the league where we're looking at tight ends
and for fantasy purposes, right, there's a lot more of
the All right, we'll use the tight end and we'll
just pair him up as a flex with other another
wide receiver, because there's so few that you say, hey,
(28:06):
week to week, are going to go and get shares. Well,
Penix was saying he was going to work with Kyle
Pitts at least for week one. Wasn't a liar and
spread the ball around pretty well. And I think you're right,
we're not going to see them rely on ground and pound.
You got guys that can go out and get it downfield.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And for Drake London owners, you're feeling pretty good because
he's going to try to force the ball his way
time and again. So uh yeah. And our our guy
Raray McLeod got his three catches for five yards and
eventually Mooney comes back. Think about those four wides. That's
gonna be a fun little thing to watch, a little
air raid kind of system with Penix at that the
con they did lose their right tackle though, but going
(28:46):
into the season, so that's uh, that's one of those
things you're a little nervous about.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
In Tampa Bay. I mean a mecha abuca.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, all the hype that that he had lives up
to it with the two touchdowns and and clutch touchdown
as well. At the end, I was ready for Mike
Evans to have a huge, huge game and the Buccaneers
didn't have that in the air, but Abuka lived up
to all expectations by cashing in on the two scores.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
The more of a reputation that Abuka gets over the weeks,
that should honestly open up things for Evans as well
to start to pay more attention to him.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Abukah just in watching him through college, and I know
we've talked about this on the pod before, but he
came in and he was the prime guy. He was
the five star wide receiver at Ohio State. And then
Marvin Harrison Junior comes along and develops into the receiver
that he was, so Abuka takes second fiddle.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
And then mhj. Hens heads to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So you're like, all right, it's a BUCA show and
here comes this all world freshman Jeraldmia Smith in and
he becomes WR one. So Abuka has the game and
he proved it in the NFL. But it's just funny
and how the college career came out that he always
kind of settled down to the WR two kind of
guy just because of the extreme talents of the other guys.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Pretty crazy, big day for Ohio State Buckeys across the board.
You know, go ahead with your guy.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I thought Tyler Warren for the Colts was awesome call for.
He didn't even have a touchdown and he already put
up a fourteen point day for PPR leagues.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I didn't even curse about him.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I was excited because I've been trying to get him
anywhere I can, just because of how late he's gone
in drafts. Man, it was just nice to see that
that vindication payoff. He was the top target there for
Daniel Jones, who always loves throwing to tight ends, so
it doesn't look like that's gonna stop. And then DJ Giddens,
their rookie running back. He is obviously still gonna be
second fiddle to Jonathan Taylor, but he did get twelve carries,
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which obviously part of that is because they were, you know,
pitching such a blowout over the Dolphins. But it's good
to know that if something were to happen to Taylor,
we know who the backup is.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Here's the tricky part is the Daniel Jones vultures now
at the goal line, like where we thought, not that
we wouldn't think it could. Because the alternative is Anthony Richardson,
you'd think it would be the same thing. But when
you turned to Daniel Jones, I felt that that moved
Jonathan Taylor stocked up just because not that Jones isn't
(31:12):
a threat running. We know he's big, we know that
he can run. It's that we just figured that Richardson
would be much more of the guy with a football
in his hands, and it would just be less the
case with Daniel Jones. But in their two short yarded spots,
Jones quarterback sneaks And honestly, I don't know how many
games the Colts are gonna have like this. So I
have some shares in Jonathan Taylor. I'm a little bit
(31:34):
concerned because this is the opportunity high right now. Yeah,
where you make a like this is and Daniel Jones
steals your thunder by getting two touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, I was a little disappointed.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Well, and they get a Week two matchup against a
ticked off Denver squad. Yeah, Denvers got the w but
it was not a pretty pretty game. The other thing
you know, with Daniel Jones, it was funny his over
under for rushing yards was twenty nine and a half,
finishes with twenty six and the two scores people licking
(32:04):
bills thinking, n he's gonna just scramble one more time
to kill clock and whatever's like, Nope, you didn't get it. Conversely,
just stay on the other side of that matchup really fast.
Where's Tyreek Hill playing? By week eight? Who takes on
some of that contractor how much does Miami eat to
start blowing that stuff?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I mean his old team, the Chiefs, just lost worthy
for the you know, foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, could be.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I I don't know any other team that would be
able to that would be able to take it on
Tyreek Hill and think it's going to work out great.
This is you know what actually, this is what. This
is what I probably envisioned. The Eagles are like, you
want a fifth round, you know, we'll give you a
fifth round pick the offense like sure, and then we're
like Tyreek Hill goes to the Eagles and then we're like, man,
(32:51):
Ali Roseman's a genius, Like doesn't that all this always
works out?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
That does sound? That sounds like a good scenario. It's like,
play that preemptive. I don't need the picks. Like, let's
just keep this train rolling as best we can. Uh,
and you know, to make it fit under the cap.
Here's a tree job. But let's just learn from the end.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yes, Kansas City trees and bushes, that's what I will say,
or Philadelphia trees and bushes, which whichever place he wants
to go. I will bring up this point on my
points at Palooza, I had Jacksonville and the Panthers. I
think my ticket is void because of the weather delay.
What do you guys think, Like it completely disrupts the
(33:33):
rhythm of the game.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
We'll give you all so.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, because I mean the rhythm is gonna get you
one way or another, and in.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
This case is yeah, it did and it got me
last night. Not like Gloria Stefan, but it was. It
was a little frustrating because the Jaguars did have Traves
etn breakout and he ends up he has a big
seventy one yard round.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I think this is what happens in Week one.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I think just out a gas it could have had
a ninety yard touchdown run, but it ended up getting
caught from behind, But the Jaguars and the Panthers were
my points of palooza pick. They probably weren't gonna top
the eighty one put together by the Bills and Ravens,
even if they didn't have the weather delay. But Jacksonville
did put twenty six up on the board. He had
some interesting numbers come in Travis et and I mentioned
(34:21):
his one hundred and one and forty three yards rushing.
He also had three catches in thirteen yards. Travis Hunter
six catches thirty three yards in his debut on eight targets.
So Jacksonville was interesting. But I'm calling a void on
my points of palooza.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I dig that. Let me go to the good, the bad,
the ugly. Let's go to the wide receivers. Let's stay
in that game. Brian Thomas found the end zone as
a rushing attempt one for nine yards in that score,
but only one catch on seven targets for eleven yards.
So one of those hand ringing moments because right alongside
him and my wide receiver rankings with the elike neighbors,
who's already fighting with the coach, which is great. And
(35:00):
Russell Wilson has been affirmed as the starter for week two.
But the verbiage is not exactly a hefty endorsement. So
anybody that wants to go stash Jackson Dart, if you
haven't already, I think you'll see the field sooner rather
than later. Go back to the Friday game. I mean,
and we were texting back and forth on this guy's
(35:22):
I mean, Justin Herbert was magnificent, clean pocket. Spagnola's got
to figure out something in terms of generating a pass
rush because this was supposed to be the weak spot
of the Chargers with Slater down that that offensive line
could be had. He was clean all night, and then
you get the infighting at the end because of taking
the inside route and giving him a nice, easy running
(35:44):
lane to ice things on a third and fourteen. But
all that to say Quentin Johnston in year three making
it work, all the reports of what Keenan Allen's meant
to him and pushing him to that next level and
watching them just pull the strings all of a sudden,
Justin Herbert for fantasy purposes, the last couple of years
has been a disappointment. Maybe we get another breakout out
(36:07):
of that. So he was on my cold source. So
I felt like a dope watching that. Stafford was on
there take the win. We look at Justin Fields, who
was one of our hot plays. A W there. Drake
May finishes is fifteen, so I guess in desperate mode,
big leagues and guillotine leagues, he played okay, just kidding.
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Pennix was on the Ninja list. He gets it done
some of the Abuco was one of the guys we
talked about quite a bit, and then I cursed when
I had the Freudian slip about Daniel Jones. So I'm
taking a w there. Bo Nix was on my top five.
He failed me miserably, as did Joe Burrow. Dan You
(36:48):
and I had some sidebar conversations about that game of
the Battle for Ohio and how that one played out.
I really thought we'd get one of those throwbacks to
two thousands Evan, where we're just winging the ball around
that neither defense would be able to get anything done,
and instead it comes down to a kicker missing an
attempt for a win but low scoring game. We get
(37:11):
no heroes out of that. McCaffrey with the big total,
he was on the fringe of the top five. Derrick
Henry and Bijon Robinson won two. As we wait for
Monday Night football, I just had them inverted. Derrick Henry
just ahead of Robinson here as we get going. So
some wins, some good, some bad, some ugly. But it's
(37:32):
week one and it made for a lot of strange
bedfellows and great narratives to pull pull forward.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
How did the streaming defenses work out? Ian?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
I mean, well, we're just gonna get the bad one
out of the way. First. The Dolphins, lesson learned, were
not touching that defense again for the rest of the year. God,
that was so bad to Daniel Jones. They gave up
a perfect day essentially. He went seven for seven on
touchdown drives.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right, Well, that's just it, right, I mean that that's
the other part that came out of that was wait,
that hasn't been done and Daniel Jones puts his.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Threat right, Yeah, so did not see that one coming.
They ended up getting you minus three fantasy points, allowing
thirty three points. They did get a sack, which save
you a little bit. Anyway, we're putting that in the
rear view, not touching that defense again. But the Cardinals,
they they had a pretty good day. They got you
four fantasy points only allowing thirteen points and got a
(38:22):
sack as well. The Rams were the best of the three.
I gave you guys nine points, allowed one interception, one
fumble recovery, and they got three sacks on the day
on CJ. Stroud as well. So decent week again not
touching the Dolphins again. But if you subtract that, it
was a pretty good week for defense.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Well, I'll tell you this. I to wrap up this pod.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Ian Mike has the best story of how his Week
one went. Yeah, wait to hear what happened to Ian
on Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
So yeah, in Mike and one of my not one
in my my main home league with some of my
buddies from back in high school. I was playing, you know,
maybe my best friend and we came down to the
Bills defense for him, which lost him two points and
I won the matchup by less than two points.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah the output.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Is there a guy with a minimal effort like a
two point eight points, then we can kind of a
trading card. I can't to send him.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
He started Xavier Worthy, who ended up Travis Kelcey. Thank you,
Travis kelce you won me my.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Fast send him a wedding press. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
God, he should have started Houston oiler's defense.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
He would have been Yeah, that would have got him more. Hey,
it's a good omen for week one. You'll take it
when you can get it.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Oh yeah it, Yes, sir, succeed in proceed The old
John Caliperry line always rings true.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
My Survivor pick was Pittsburgh and they did prevail thanks
to sorry Ian but thanks to Chris Boswell's leg.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
It's all right.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
At least there's a silver lining.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yes, not a lot of upsets for Survivor this week.
I told you Dolphins Colts was a coin flip heading
into the game. It was anything but when we as
we just talked about in the game. So if you're
on the Colt side of things, probably ahead of the
game a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, I think we went predicted upsets, you and I Dan,
I and I know we talked about some things of
like wishing, wanting, hoping. Only two actual upsets according to
the betting line, and both of those were fewer than
three points in terms of a point spread, so you
had a little bit of that. I get to revel
in the Jets defeat by the serial killer as Mike
(40:23):
Tomlin called him. That was the line he used on
Chris Boswell. I don't know how well that play is over.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Do you think he was trying to tell us something?
Was that him sending us a message? It was a
cry for help? Our kicker is a serial killer?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Well, I hope he's it in week two because the
Seahawks come to town. So hopefully they don't take the
Seahawks down to zero and two. The DK Metcalf revenge
game something I'll look forward to. We were in our
next episode. We'll look a little bit ahead to week
two and some of the storylines. Mike mentioned it, Giant
sticking with Russell Wilson. We'll see how that plays out.
And yeah, Michael will get you through. I'm sure you
(41:01):
won't have any venting to do after the Monday night
game between the Bears and Vikings, but we'll get your
take off.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Of that one as well.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh, the chaos ensues. I mean, you want to talk
about narratives from a local and national level for a
referendum on everybody's lives after one game. And this goes
either way, right, because if JJ McCarthy doesn't play well,
they'll go they'll be after him too, So's it's a
it's a game that really gives us so many storylines
(41:28):
that we get to do on the next.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
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Speaker 4 (41:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Just when you thought Week one couldn't get any crazier,
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
Isn't that correct?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We'll get the blue Sky stuff later, but let's get
to the game that the game that everyone already Mike
is saying, the game of twenty twenty five Bills and Ravens.
What a night if you had any of the big
name players in that Sunda night affair that saw the
Bills rally from that fifteen point deficit to grab that
one point win.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Just insanity all around, Like we had chaos all day long,
going back to the Thursday and Friday games, right this
guy carted off before snap one, spitting on Sunday we
got the green implement found its way to the National
Football League. But the Unders were eleven and two. No
worries in this one, as we had fireworks galore. Derrick Henry,
(01:37):
who was brilliant, has a fumble that gives breathes in life,
and Josh Allen fantasy owners got to capitalize if you
started Dalton Kincaid, you got some love down the stretch,
Zay Flower, you name it. The Lamar Jackson scramble. That
might go down as one of the greatest plays not
on a video game system, that we've ever seen. So
just glorious all around. And hopefully folks didn't go to
(02:00):
sleep because that one started getting pretty laid into the night.
And I can imagine after a full day of football.
I mean, look, you're still in preseason mode if you're
watching as a fantasy owner and watching the NFL. I mean,
that's a lot of football before that one, which gave
you an extra what forty five minutes of football. For
those final five minutes of action, it.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Was crazy, it really was.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And just when he thought that the Ravens had it,
they didn't and then the enda Derrek Henry fumble. Then
you get a stop and it was like the Bills
were perfect, and in fact, you can say that the
Bills were quite lucky. And that's kind of where I
want to go to one of their players, Keon Coleman,
And this is where I'm this is where I'm so
torn on Coleman because if you remember a couple of
years back when the Bills had Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis.
(02:44):
I guess they have Gabe Davis now, but you know
what I mean, when they were really the one too.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Well.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I was high on Gabe Davis because I just thought
I'll take him as a number two if we're playing
number twos across the league. Like I was all for
Gabe Davis, and he just didn't reach up to the
pro activity that I had wanted. Now we're sitting there
in Buffalo and we don't even know who the number
one is, but Keon Coleman showed it last night. Yet
you have the deflection that he ends up catching for
(03:11):
a touchdown, so that's his touchdown, but then he gets
tripped up at the end where he maybe could have scored. Like,
are we looking at Keon Coleman now like bona fide
w R one with this Bills team?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I think as we go forward, like it's also
a matter of I think a little bit of circumstance
to a degree, right, you're not going to get into
giant forty one forty shootouts, Although that defense we had
questions about it coming into the year, Dan, I mean
from the real football and fantasy purposes of what that
back seven would look like and what you might be
(03:42):
able to do a little slow, a little long in
the tooth and a little banged up. But for Keon Coleman,
you get to you of the eleven targets, you know,
and I think for Josh Allen it becomes the all
right outside of Kincaid if healthy and stuff in the
ball in the gut of James Cook. You're trying to
find guys that can be electric after the cat, and
certainly Coleman can. Yeah, getting tripped up down the end
(04:04):
again the fantasy versus reality split, right, It's like he's
gonna sprint to day lines like, no, he's tripped up. Well,
that's actually good for the Bills, but for fantasy owners,
that's another what seven and a half points that went
out the window for you there. But yeah, so I
would say from a target camp, I would fully expect
him to be the lead. Shakier is interesting, but he's
(04:26):
more the safety valve guy. Yes, Colman gets to be
that deep threat, that big pop for Josh Allen to
go get it, so I think he wins out.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think we've seen enough of Khalil Shakira, and I
actually mean this in a positive way where we do
know his role. Like last year, we thought, well, who knows,
because he was the year prior where he was really
like the third option, but he ended up being the
most reliable option. And then because of the players that
they had leave after last year, including Stefan Diggs, the
aforementioned Stefan Diggs, we were wondering, all right, how is
(04:57):
this gonna work out in Buffalo? And Shakira is what
Seki is. But Josh Allen's gonna throw for thirty eight
hundred forty three hundred yards this year. Somebody's got to
catch him and it's probably gonna be key on Coleman.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, what'll be interesting to see is game to game
because you also had nine targets for Josh Palmer coming over,
so you get a little bit of an equity. I mean, eleven,
nine and nine are the targets for those three guys
spreading the ball around against that Baltimore d And you know,
frantic comeback mode creates some strange opportunities along the way.
(05:30):
So you know, we'll figure out where, you know, the
the level really is after we get another game or
two under the belt, but certainly for waiver Wire purposes,
any of those guys I think needs to be stashed
at this point. If Josh Allen's the guy triggering the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm not going to raise it to panic level. But
the last player I want to talk about in this
game was Mark Andrews. I mean, we can talk about Lamar,
we talk about Derek Henry and Josh all We're going
to play all those guys, we know we are, But
I had Mark Andrews in a league one target, one catch,
five yards noisia likely. I know that the game flow
didn't necessarily go but this is a little reminiscent of
(06:10):
what we had last year in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, disappointing on a number of levels. And yeah, game
flow as you say, with a big lead and the
run game playing so well. Unfortunately, you don't get any
points for blocking, right. We saw it in a bunch
of other games, like there were clear points where guys
got rewarded, like may Or for the Raiders, had a
couple of huge blocks early in the game. Guess whose
(06:32):
number got called for pass pass targets later. We watched
that in the Thursday and Friday games. Go back to
Thursday when we were talking about Dotson getting a couple
of balls down the field, that was because he made
a couple of big blocks in the run game. So
we're seeing that, you know, we risk your body gets
(06:52):
some reward. Unfortunately from Mark Andrews, that did not translate
into fantasy goodness for this one. So and and I
guess that that would become a little more of the
concern going forward. Likely will be back, so you'll you'll
split whatever targets are there. But I think you know
you're gonna have a lot of games where this is
(07:12):
the script, right, how much can you get? Derek Henry,
they didn't even have Keaton Mitchell for this one, he
was down. You look overall twenty nine carries, the two
hundred and thirty eight yards and three scores, Lamar Jackson
just fourteen completions. They just getting that, I think, I fear.
I mean, and look, he's gonna get his rushing yards,
so you're gonna get your fantasy points. I mean, that's
(07:35):
gonna his thing will work. But for those the receiving corps, yeah,
I think it becomes a little more of a hand
ringing situation. DeAndre Hopkins had the touchdown reception, but wasn't
I mean, he was two for two. I mean, so
you're you're talking about a receiving corps as a whole
that week to week is going to be riding the lightning.
I think Mark Andrews unfortunately, and not because of the drop,
(07:58):
because that immediately became he's still in the doghouse, Like
it's if he was still in the doghouse, they would
have cut his ass. Yes, okay, like if that's really
how how deep and penetrated that that was, then then
he would have been gone. So, I mean, he'll have
bigger days, but it might be a little more ride
the lightning kind of circumstance.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's funny Baltimore the ball for about twenty five minutes
against Buffalo. That was not the case with the Lions
and Packers. The Packers only had the ball for twenty
five minutes in their game against the Lions, so the
Lions had possession quite a bit, they just didn't do
anything with it. Let's look at that game, Packers and Lions.
Green Bay gets the twenty seven to thirteen win. What
you're going to see on what you've saw in the
NFL network and Sports Center and everywhere is Micah Parsons
(08:41):
chasing down Jared Goff.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But what you're also then not seeing are.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Great plays by Jamior Gibbs, great place by David Montgomery,
great plays by Aman Ross Saint Brown. A clunker of
a game with the Lions. Do we chalk this up
to new coordinator, division rival or is there more concern
in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, what was interesting is there was the note that
was on the telecast as well that they had the
overriding senses of how they reported on the Lion's staff
that they were more excited that Kenny Clark was gone
than worrying about Micah Parsons. We talked about it after
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the trade. I mean, Kenny Clark was a great player,
he at this point diminishing asset. But the fact that
that would have been an issue, well, okay, then that
meant you should have been able to run the ball right. Instead,
it's twenty carries for forty four yards. Nothing explosive. In
the past game, Jared Goff seemed off the I mean
(09:42):
he finished his thirty one to thirty nine, but his
the average depth of thrower was like four point two
yards or something per target, So not a lot in
the process. Good job by the Packers defense. So I
think maybe we go a little bit to the matchup
and say better days. But how fast does it rally
together for fantasy owners? Right?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's the bigger question. It's like from a straight football
the three of us, you know, analyzing the course of
the year, it's like, yeah, they got too many weapons,
they'll be okay, but week to week trying to figure
out when that explosiveness comes except for the obvious weeker teams, Yeah,
it's gonna be tough sledding and the new coordinator thing,
(10:26):
I mean, you've had months to work together. I don't
know how much that plays anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's interesting because if you had Jami or gibbson a
PPR league did all right for you had ten receptions,
but you also weren't banking on the only nineteen yards
rushing in that contest. And then I mean, you talk
about game flow. They're down seventeen to three at the
end of the half, doesn't mean doesn't mean you need
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to abandon the run, but it just wasn't there for them.
And the Kenny Clark Micah Parsons comment, Mike, I don't
blame them for saying that, because I actually thought that
myself when the trade was done. I'm like, who you're
trying to beat in the NFC North Sure, Detroit will
if they had their druthers, would probably want to run
the ball. So how much will this affect? And all
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the highlights were of Parsons and Parsons of the because
we were on the air, and the spots that I
saw was effective. But it seems that he was getting
quite the rave reviews on social media. The point is is,
I don't think that the lines were necessarily wrong. I
just don't know if you say that stuff out loud,
and now that becomes in the rematch when that can
be used for you know, fuel the fire. Maybe Detroit
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will have a better plan, but it doesn't seem like
they committed to the run Jared Goffler at thirty nine
times and so if you don't have Kenny Clark, just
run the ball down their throats.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But well that's it, right, you end up going into
a short passing game. And I get it, you're down,
but you got two runners that are explosive, right, I
mean we've been talking the Sonic and Knuckles stuff all
the time. By the way, did you acknowledge your tribal
chief Roman Reigns like Micah Parsons did after his sack?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I did not. I missed it. I didn't even see it.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But I mean it is curious though, for the course
of this game, right, with those ten receptions, you end
up having a pretty good game in BPR leagues for
Jamior Gimes, like certainly not the explosiveness of those final
six to eight weeks of last year, but he's still
with Monday Night's game between the Bears and the Vikings,
Pending still ended up as a back end RB one
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despite the struggle.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Did he yell acknowledge me?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
My WWE depth of knowledge isn't great, but I know
that there is some acknowledging that needed to be going on.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Is that what we needed to do with Micah Parsons.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, I think they were really trying to sell you
on it as best you can. And I have to
wonder again though, but going back to the booth and
the Kenny Clark little admission, are those of the things
you're not supposed to talk about. Like I understand that
once they run the trick play or the different formation
or whatever, you get to let the cat out of
the bag of Yeah, this was something they worked on
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during the course of the week. They said they had
a special thing cooked up for player X whatever. But
something like that, shouldn't that still be under wraps?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah? I think it's I didn't I didn't hear the comment.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I just read it in text when it was put
on social media, and I think that it was meant
to be a compliment to Kenny Clark. And when you
say it out loud, you like it probably came off
who whether it was Nance or Romo, I don't know
who said it, or Tracy Wolfson, whoever, whoever said it.
I'm sure it probably came out their tongue and they
wanted the words back because it sure does sound disrespectful,
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and in a way, it kind of sounds flippant, right,
you know where I don't think that that's what the
Lions intended, I'm guessing, but it just sounded flippant to me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, and that's the thing, right, there was something you know,
even in the preseason the Fox telecast, when Greg Olsen
started letting out little things of what the coaches were
saying for plans for players and the Bears. It's like,
I think that's kind of just filing in the back
that you're eventually going to see it, not that to
lay it out as so like that's the curiosity, right,
(13:59):
We're where's that curtain and when you pull it away?
But yeah, for me, as Bear's guy, it's curious to
watch that part of the chess match unfold. I mean,
because remember Virginia mccaskey's last last football game she watched
was the Bears actually beating the Packers, So that means
we're due for another thirty year streak.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, I'll wrap up this Packers lines conversation this way.
Matthew Golden was thought to be the answer. In Green Bay,
Jordan Love had sixteen completions on Sunday to ten different receivers.
There wasn't a receiver that had more than three catches,
and that was only Jayden Reid. Jaden Reid led Green
Bay in receptions with three. Romeo Dobbs had the big
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forty eight yard catch, but otherwise it was much of
the same in Green Bay with the wide receivers. Even
with Christian Watson still trying to come back, you had
Matthew Golden, the balls being spread around, and I don't
know in Green Bay if you're ever going to get
the production that you desire from a true WR one.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It looks like we're gonna have that night graphic again
where they need the second screen to show you how
many of receivers and running backs have caught for I
have gone for at least four hundred receiving yard. Yes,
it's such a you remember that graphic, right and final
couple weeks of the season. Look at the distribution.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, it was put up as a good thing, and
I'm not sure if it was.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, I think at some point you need that guy
that you say he can go get it. I'm still
waiting to figure out who that is. Although getting John
Fitzpatrick and Saveon Williams into the box score is good
for business.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
We're gonna go around the rest of the Week one
in the NFL and what happened on Sunday. It even
touch a little bit on Friday and Thursday as well
from what happened with the games. He's Mike Carmen, I'm
Dan Bayer, that's Ian Roddy. It's all up next year
and I want your flex. Let's take a look at
the rest of week one. He is Mike Carmen, I'm
(15:49):
Dan Bayer, that's Ian Roddy. This is I want your flex.
I will say, we don't even need to talk about
Thursday because we did in a previous pod Man. It
seems so long ago after the long weekend. That's what
Oasis does to you, Mike Harmon, that's oh was that show?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Did you rub elbows with any Luminaries? Because it seemed
like every other seed had somebody of great acclaim.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We were so high up we didn't have the opportunity to.
But it was still great to be in the building
and good for you. Yes, it was a great time.
Something a theme on the show that we had talked
about last year. Each of my picks were two an
Oasis song and we were able to come full circle
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Night, full circle moment.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yes, absolutely, I.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Tell you that I had envy. It was not one
of the bands that was on my short list right
of bands I listened to at their peak. But as
this tour started ramping up and you're getting more play
and getting back into it, and just the excitement around
the city as they were still getting ready to come
to this date, Dan, because I mean, I think there
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were odds all over the world, at different odds makers
that they would never happen, and there it was. As
soon as they played a note, all those bets cast.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yes, it was amazing. And they only played five dates
in the States. They played once in your home home
down of Chicago, two in New York, and then they
had two out here in LA and then they'll go
to Mexico and do some stuff in Asia and Australia
and South America as well.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So good stuff. Yes, like a great time.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yes, it helped ease the pain of the dullness of
the Seahawks for me. On Sunday forty nine ers, though
Ricky Piersall showing to be the role that many had
hoped he would be in drafts Jackson Smith and Jigma.
For as bad as the Seahawks were, Jackson Smith in
Jigbot was at least a bright spot. And now there's
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some questions about the Seahawks backfield on is it Zach
Scharbonay or is it Kenneth Walker. So some good and
some bad from that Niners went over the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Welcome to sharbon a time. I mean, one of those
guys that'll be a hot pickup on the waiver wire.
How he's on waivers, I don't know, but looking at
some of the reports nearly half of league's you can
go find Zach Charbonay ahead of the first waiver claims
of the new year. Twelve carries forty seven yards, the
touchdown Walker active a little in the past game. Not
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much coming out from Sam Darnald in that one, which
had anybody that really didn't like Sam Donald because of
a game or two last year thumping their chests like
it's game one. It's a division opponent, it's a forty
nine er defense that we expected to be good. So
all of that with a grain of salt, does it
make you feel any better? So think more of the
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Oasis songs you really sang along with Dan. But all
of that to say, yeah, I think Sharbonnay becomes that
guy Ricky Piersoll four for one oh eight. I'd like
that we now just call him second year receiver and
we don't have to talk about circumstances before he started
taking snaps last year. But Christian McCaffrey, the fact that
he had thirty one touches in this game, that's the
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one that jumps off to me, right the twenty two
carries sixty nine yards. But the fact that he did
have nine catches I felt slightly validated in my argument
of how his year would bank. And they do have
a big concern and that George Kittle leaves the game
well out to see how long that injury lingers. Because
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while he is one of their key pass catchers for
for twenty five, did have the touchdown before departing. I mean,
we know about his run blocking efficiency. That's a huge
loss for that offense.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'll tell you if Tanjas is just going to jump
ball everybody and steal footballs from the way of you know,
Terik Willen maybe the Niners would be Okay, a tenant.
I'm just kidding. I'm just bitter about Terrek Willen's defense.
Let's jump from that game to another team that won
in the NFC West. That was the Rams over the Texans.
Texans couldn't get into the end zone, had to settle
for field goals. When the Rams did get into the
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end zone, it was Kyen Williams.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Again.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Most notable to me was how was Puka and Akua
and DeVante Adams gonna work out? Maybe kind of like
how we thought in the preseason, Puka obviously taking the
slot of WR one with Adams in Stafford maybe not
necessarily on the same page right away, but Puka kind
of stealing the show when it comes to receiving yards.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well, we know in between the twenties, it becomes the
get the ball to him and make plays. They've got
that continuity, the consistency of route running and Adams second
half you started to see the shots come his way.
You know, it's this whole season is predicated on Matthew
Stafford's back. As much as I love Jimmy Garoppolo because
he's a South sich Chicago guy and loves the White
(20:21):
Sox like me. But all of that say, you know,
and he's been there, he's done that, so the drop
off wouldn't necessarily be the same as for so many
other tenuous situations for backups across the league. But the
fact that Kyron Williams out touched from the running game
perspective Blake corm eighteen to one was a little surprising, right,
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a lot of stuff this offseason that perhaps, even after
getting paid, they'd now, you know, make sure that Williams
was not carrying too much of an early season load.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Stafford had more cars. Stafford had more carries than Cool.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
No, that's right, right, or for his minus too, that's
that's a good goal being But yeah, that's which, which
is something you never want to see in a box
score with Matthew Stafford, get down, get down. Hopefully you
know they all count when they're Neil Dance. But for
Nikua picking up right where he left off when healthy,
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remains that highly targeted, highly efficient option. I think that's
the thing that that we take away from there. It's
not always going to be massive gains, but you get
ten catches PPR gold.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
They should just tally Stafford stats and feet instead of
yards because he's only going to go so far.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Unfortunately tall is what is he like six three?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So we get two yards plus.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Unfortunately, the Texans didn't go anywhere. If you had Nico Collins,
he was a disappointment. We did get the sense there
was more Nick Chubb than anybody else, So it seems
like Nick Chubb is the guy, not necessarily Damian Pierce
or Wood he marks digging into that. It is weak
one of but at least it gives us a little
bit early barometer.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Stroud throwing a lot to the tight ends in that contest,
but at some point Nico Collins is going to break out.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, Rams defensive front did the job as you would
expect here. I didn't expect fireworks from the Texans offense
certainly did not expect the slugfest we got here. I
thought we'd get a little bit more activity. But look,
as long as it's close late, because what all but
like maybe two or three games, I don't have this
slate in front of me of final scores. But I
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mean everything was close late, so we got some fantastic finishes.
And it's also a reason where a lot of people
are fighting to get rid of kickers in fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Well, and I'll also say this, at least with the
Denver Broncos in their win against the Titans, you had
that backfield.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Dobbins ends up scoring the big touchdown for them, but R. J.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Harvey ended up having the big run for them for
fifty yards. Courtland Sutton ended up being the main guy.
Not too much surprised. With Denver and with the Titans
you were likely only playing Pollard anyway, maybe some Calvin Ridley.
Ridley got a lot of targets, so hopefully if you
have Calvin Ridley, that'll pay off that cam Ward was
looking for him a lot yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I mean, look, they also have to secure the ball,
so we'll order some Stickham gloves.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Right, at least four that you would count. Well, I
mean as a team, that's not terrible. I mean that
just ties ceed lamb ah too soon. But all in all,
on both sides for cam Ward and for bow Nicks.
And then bow Nicks struggled twenty five of forty for
his one to seventy six touchdown to two. Right, everybody
wanted to crown. I'm like, no, there's some growing pains
(23:38):
Tennessee hung around. Was it pretty No? A lot of sacks,
tons of turnovers in this game. But to your point,
Calvin Ridley, we keep waiting for him to be the
guy certainly fits the profile, so perhaps he gets to
rise up. And Tony Pollard, I think is going to
be for fantasy owners that went and grabbed him as
an RB two, I think you're gonna be pretty happy
(23:59):
with that. Weekly.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
He is Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer. That's Ian Roddy,
our executive producer. Time for another time out here, and
I want your flex. When we come back, we'll give
our report cards, what we hit and what we missed
on for the week plus, we'll each highlight something from
the early games that we thought stand out that could
help you in your fantasy quest to victory. That's next
here and I want your flex. We'll give our report
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cards here and what we hit and maybe what we
missed on. But he's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byer, that's
Ian Roddy. Guys, what stood out for you in the
early window of the slate in week one. Mike, I'll
start with you some outcomes that we're surprising, some not
so surprising. What stood out for you in that early
window of Week one, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Think that the fact that we had and I alluded
to it a little early back in segment one, was
just the fact that the Unders were hitting and you
know where you don't expect Chris play all around, but
perhaps you expect more jail breaks in terms of mistackles,
slip tackles to where we get some extra points tacked on,
(25:06):
and opportunities that didn't happen a Week one, we saw
a lot of these offenses look a little bit disjointed,
like it was truly a first game. I don't know,
do we have it, Do we get an argument for
another preseason game where guys are forced to play contractually,
I don't know. But all of it to say, you know,
when we look at the final stat lines to thing,
(25:29):
I mean, Ian, I'm just gonna steal your guy, So
think of something else. I mean, justin fields, the justin fields,
Aaron Rodgers. We were supposed to have paint drying, and
we got one of the most entertaining games the day
right with both of those guys coming in fields heading
into Monday night. Football is the number two quarterback and
Aaron Rodgers has to figure out how to make every
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week a revenge game.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
So right, so much so that it makes us question
the Steelers defense. Now now I'm like, are they too old?
This is what we've got it again. It's week one.
Not meant to disrespect Justerer Fields or the Jets, but
I thought he would have a tough time with.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It, and it was anything but well.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Cam Hayward got his extra money by complaining I gotta
feed my family.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
And he was on the field. He was on the
field on Sunday. So yes, the will see was all
all part of the deploy I'll tell you what stood
out for me was not to pat myself on the back.
But I just told you that I liked Michael Pennix.
And Pennix ends up only throwing for one touchdown but
has near three hundred yards and the Buccaneers shut down
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the Falcons running game. And another people that want Beijon
Robinson to get thirty two carries a game, I don't
think that that's their goal. I think it's he's going
to get twenty. You know, it's twenty five touches a game, right,
whether they come in the receiving game where the rushing game,
is it gonna matter? And that's about where he was.
He had seven targets, had six receptions, and then the
twelve carries. It was the Rake London commitment that was
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pretty amazing. Fifteen targets for the Falcons. They only have
massed fifty five yards on those fifteen targets on the
eight catches. But this is kind of the Falcons that
I thought that we would see Mike. I didn't think
that we would see this ground and pound of Bijean
and Algier. I thought they would be throwing the football more.
(27:22):
And game script, I know allows, especially in the late
couple of minutes when you're trying to put points on
the board, it does alter things, but I didn't think
that this was altered as much. And in a game
against the division rival, to have your second your quarterback
do what he did, I think is a good sign
for people who have Falcons shares moving forward.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh, I would agree, all right, And you even got
some love for Kyle Pitts. Didn't find the end zone? Right,
You get seven catches for fifty nine yards in a
look in the league where we're looking at tight ends
and for fantasy purposes, right, there's a lot more of
the All right, we'll use the tight end and we'll
just pair him up as a flex with other another
wide receiver, because there's so few that you say, hey,
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week to week, are going to go and get shares. Well,
Penix was saying he was going to work with Kyle
Pitts at least for week one. Wasn't a liar and
spread the ball around pretty well. And I think you're right,
we're not going to see them rely on ground and pound.
You got guys that can go out and get it downfield.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And for Drake London owners, you're feeling pretty good because
he's going to try to force the ball his way
time and again. So uh yeah. And our our guy
Raray McLeod got his three catches for five yards and
eventually Mooney comes back. Think about those four wides. That's
gonna be a fun little thing to watch, a little
air raid kind of system with Penix at that the
con they did lose their right tackle though, but going
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into the season, so that's uh, that's one of those
things you're a little nervous about.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
In Tampa Bay. I mean a mecha abuca.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, all the hype that that he had lives up
to it with the two touchdowns and and clutch touchdown
as well. At the end, I was ready for Mike
Evans to have a huge, huge game and the Buccaneers
didn't have that in the air, but Abuka lived up
to all expectations by cashing in on the two scores.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
The more of a reputation that Abuka gets over the weeks,
that should honestly open up things for Evans as well
to start to pay more attention to him.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Abukah just in watching him through college, and I know
we've talked about this on the pod before, but he
came in and he was the prime guy. He was
the five star wide receiver at Ohio State. And then
Marvin Harrison Junior comes along and develops into the receiver
that he was, so Abuka takes second fiddle.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
And then mhj. Hens heads to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So you're like, all right, it's a BUCA show and
here comes this all world freshman Jeraldmia Smith in and
he becomes WR one. So Abuka has the game and
he proved it in the NFL. But it's just funny
and how the college career came out that he always
kind of settled down to the WR two kind of
guy just because of the extreme talents of the other guys.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Pretty crazy, big day for Ohio State Buckeys across the board.
You know, go ahead with your guy.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I thought Tyler Warren for the Colts was awesome call for.
He didn't even have a touchdown and he already put
up a fourteen point day for PPR leagues.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I didn't even curse about him.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I was excited because I've been trying to get him
anywhere I can, just because of how late he's gone
in drafts. Man, it was just nice to see that
that vindication payoff. He was the top target there for
Daniel Jones, who always loves throwing to tight ends, so
it doesn't look like that's gonna stop. And then DJ Giddens,
their rookie running back. He is obviously still gonna be
second fiddle to Jonathan Taylor, but he did get twelve carries,
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which obviously part of that is because they were, you know,
pitching such a blowout over the Dolphins. But it's good
to know that if something were to happen to Taylor,
we know who the backup is.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Here's the tricky part is the Daniel Jones vultures now
at the goal line, like where we thought, not that
we wouldn't think it could. Because the alternative is Anthony Richardson,
you'd think it would be the same thing. But when
you turned to Daniel Jones, I felt that that moved
Jonathan Taylor stocked up just because not that Jones isn't
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a threat running. We know he's big, we know that
he can run. It's that we just figured that Richardson
would be much more of the guy with a football
in his hands, and it would just be less the
case with Daniel Jones. But in their two short yarded spots,
Jones quarterback sneaks And honestly, I don't know how many
games the Colts are gonna have like this. So I
have some shares in Jonathan Taylor. I'm a little bit
(31:34):
concerned because this is the opportunity high right now. Yeah,
where you make a like this is and Daniel Jones
steals your thunder by getting two touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, I was a little disappointed.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Well, and they get a Week two matchup against a
ticked off Denver squad. Yeah, Denvers got the w but
it was not a pretty pretty game. The other thing
you know, with Daniel Jones, it was funny his over
under for rushing yards was twenty nine and a half,
finishes with twenty six and the two scores people licking
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bills thinking, n he's gonna just scramble one more time
to kill clock and whatever's like, Nope, you didn't get it. Conversely,
just stay on the other side of that matchup really fast.
Where's Tyreek Hill playing? By week eight? Who takes on
some of that contractor how much does Miami eat to
start blowing that stuff?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I mean his old team, the Chiefs, just lost worthy
for the you know, foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, could be.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I I don't know any other team that would be
able to that would be able to take it on
Tyreek Hill and think it's going to work out great.
This is you know what actually, this is what. This
is what I probably envisioned. The Eagles are like, you
want a fifth round, you know, we'll give you a
fifth round pick the offense like sure, and then we're
like Tyreek Hill goes to the Eagles and then we're like, man,
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Ali Roseman's a genius, Like doesn't that all this always
works out?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
That does sound? That sounds like a good scenario. It's like,
play that preemptive. I don't need the picks. Like, let's
just keep this train rolling as best we can. Uh,
and you know, to make it fit under the cap.
Here's a tree job. But let's just learn from the end.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yes, Kansas City trees and bushes, that's what I will say,
or Philadelphia trees and bushes, which whichever place he wants
to go. I will bring up this point on my
points at Palooza, I had Jacksonville and the Panthers. I
think my ticket is void because of the weather delay.
What do you guys think, Like it completely disrupts the
(33:33):
rhythm of the game.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
We'll give you all so.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, because I mean the rhythm is gonna get you
one way or another, and in.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
This case is yeah, it did and it got me
last night. Not like Gloria Stefan, but it was. It
was a little frustrating because the Jaguars did have Traves
etn breakout and he ends up he has a big
seventy one yard round.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I think this is what happens in Week one.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I think just out a gas it could have had
a ninety yard touchdown run, but it ended up getting
caught from behind, But the Jaguars and the Panthers were
my points of palooza pick. They probably weren't gonna top
the eighty one put together by the Bills and Ravens,
even if they didn't have the weather delay. But Jacksonville
did put twenty six up on the board. He had
some interesting numbers come in Travis et and I mentioned
(34:21):
his one hundred and one and forty three yards rushing.
He also had three catches in thirteen yards. Travis Hunter
six catches thirty three yards in his debut on eight targets.
So Jacksonville was interesting. But I'm calling a void on
my points of palooza.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I dig that. Let me go to the good, the bad,
the ugly. Let's go to the wide receivers. Let's stay
in that game. Brian Thomas found the end zone as
a rushing attempt one for nine yards in that score,
but only one catch on seven targets for eleven yards.
So one of those hand ringing moments because right alongside
him and my wide receiver rankings with the elike neighbors,
who's already fighting with the coach, which is great. And
(35:00):
Russell Wilson has been affirmed as the starter for week two.
But the verbiage is not exactly a hefty endorsement. So
anybody that wants to go stash Jackson Dart, if you
haven't already, I think you'll see the field sooner rather
than later. Go back to the Friday game. I mean,
and we were texting back and forth on this guy's
(35:22):
I mean, Justin Herbert was magnificent, clean pocket. Spagnola's got
to figure out something in terms of generating a pass
rush because this was supposed to be the weak spot
of the Chargers with Slater down that that offensive line
could be had. He was clean all night, and then
you get the infighting at the end because of taking
the inside route and giving him a nice, easy running
(35:44):
lane to ice things on a third and fourteen. But
all that to say Quentin Johnston in year three making
it work, all the reports of what Keenan Allen's meant
to him and pushing him to that next level and
watching them just pull the strings all of a sudden,
Justin Herbert for fantasy purposes, the last couple of years
has been a disappointment. Maybe we get another breakout out
(36:07):
of that. So he was on my cold source. So
I felt like a dope watching that. Stafford was on
there take the win. We look at Justin Fields, who
was one of our hot plays. A W there. Drake
May finishes is fifteen, so I guess in desperate mode,
big leagues and guillotine leagues, he played okay, just kidding.
(36:28):
Pennix was on the Ninja list. He gets it done
some of the Abuco was one of the guys we
talked about quite a bit, and then I cursed when
I had the Freudian slip about Daniel Jones. So I'm
taking a w there. Bo Nix was on my top five.
He failed me miserably, as did Joe Burrow. Dan You
(36:48):
and I had some sidebar conversations about that game of
the Battle for Ohio and how that one played out.
I really thought we'd get one of those throwbacks to
two thousands Evan, where we're just winging the ball around
that neither defense would be able to get anything done,
and instead it comes down to a kicker missing an
attempt for a win but low scoring game. We get
(37:11):
no heroes out of that. McCaffrey with the big total,
he was on the fringe of the top five. Derrick
Henry and Bijon Robinson won two. As we wait for
Monday Night football, I just had them inverted. Derrick Henry
just ahead of Robinson here as we get going. So
some wins, some good, some bad, some ugly. But it's
(37:32):
week one and it made for a lot of strange
bedfellows and great narratives to pull pull forward.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
How did the streaming defenses work out? Ian?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
I mean, well, we're just gonna get the bad one
out of the way. First. The Dolphins, lesson learned, were
not touching that defense again for the rest of the year. God,
that was so bad to Daniel Jones. They gave up
a perfect day essentially. He went seven for seven on
touchdown drives.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right, Well, that's just it, right, I mean that that's
the other part that came out of that was wait,
that hasn't been done and Daniel Jones puts his.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Threat right, Yeah, so did not see that one coming.
They ended up getting you minus three fantasy points, allowing
thirty three points. They did get a sack, which save
you a little bit. Anyway, we're putting that in the
rear view, not touching that defense again. But the Cardinals,
they they had a pretty good day. They got you
four fantasy points only allowing thirteen points and got a
(38:22):
sack as well. The Rams were the best of the three.
I gave you guys nine points, allowed one interception, one
fumble recovery, and they got three sacks on the day
on CJ. Stroud as well. So decent week again not
touching the Dolphins again. But if you subtract that, it
was a pretty good week for defense.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Well, I'll tell you this. I to wrap up this pod.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Ian Mike has the best story of how his Week
one went. Yeah, wait to hear what happened to Ian
on Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
So yeah, in Mike and one of my not one
in my my main home league with some of my
buddies from back in high school. I was playing, you know,
maybe my best friend and we came down to the
Bills defense for him, which lost him two points and
I won the matchup by less than two points.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah the output.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Is there a guy with a minimal effort like a
two point eight points, then we can kind of a
trading card. I can't to send him.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
He started Xavier Worthy, who ended up Travis Kelcey. Thank you,
Travis kelce you won me my.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Fast send him a wedding press. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
God, he should have started Houston oiler's defense.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
He would have been Yeah, that would have got him more. Hey,
it's a good omen for week one. You'll take it
when you can get it.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Oh yeah it, Yes, sir, succeed in proceed The old
John Caliperry line always rings true.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
My Survivor pick was Pittsburgh and they did prevail thanks
to sorry Ian but thanks to Chris Boswell's leg.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
It's all right.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
At least there's a silver lining.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yes, not a lot of upsets for Survivor this week.
I told you Dolphins Colts was a coin flip heading
into the game. It was anything but when we as
we just talked about in the game. So if you're
on the Colt side of things, probably ahead of the
game a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, I think we went predicted upsets, you and I Dan,
I and I know we talked about some things of
like wishing, wanting, hoping. Only two actual upsets according to
the betting line, and both of those were fewer than
three points in terms of a point spread, so you
had a little bit of that. I get to revel
in the Jets defeat by the serial killer as Mike
(40:23):
Tomlin called him. That was the line he used on
Chris Boswell. I don't know how well that play is over.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Do you think he was trying to tell us something?
Was that him sending us a message? It was a
cry for help? Our kicker is a serial killer?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Well, I hope he's it in week two because the
Seahawks come to town. So hopefully they don't take the
Seahawks down to zero and two. The DK Metcalf revenge
game something I'll look forward to. We were in our
next episode. We'll look a little bit ahead to week
two and some of the storylines. Mike mentioned it, Giant
sticking with Russell Wilson. We'll see how that plays out.
And yeah, Michael will get you through. I'm sure you
(41:01):
won't have any venting to do after the Monday night
game between the Bears and Vikings, but we'll get your
take off.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Of that one as well.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh, the chaos ensues. I mean, you want to talk
about narratives from a local and national level for a
referendum on everybody's lives after one game. And this goes
either way, right, because if JJ McCarthy doesn't play well,
they'll go they'll be after him too, So's it's a
it's a game that really gives us so many storylines
(41:28):
that we get to do on the next.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Pot Our midweek episode of I Want Your Flex. So
for Ian, Roddy and Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Beyer. Hopefully
I got a win in week one, and if not,
we'll try to get you on that winning track in
week two.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Talk to you that
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