Jason Fitz & Buck Reising React to Another Clemson Loss, Preview NFL Week 3 & More!

Jason Fitz and Buck Reising open the show reacting to another brutal loss for Clemson... Are their playoff hopes officially dead? Then they get into some NFL talk, discussing what the panic level is for 0-2 teams across the league. Is it panic time in Kansas City? They also go through the league's 2-0 teams, determining who are the true contenders vs. pretenders. Plus, more fun with a brand new edition of 'Would You Rather?'

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Two things can be true. I say this a lot
in life, and I think we forget about it. Everybody
wants to make a bold statement, a bold proclamation, without
the context that it is possible for two things to
be true at the same time. For example, Dabo Sweeney
is a legendary college football head coach. Dabo Sweeney is
one of the most important college football coaches of his generation,

(00:26):
and the success of Clemson is something that has stamped
an era of college football. That is all true, and
today I think we got the latest nail in the
coffin That also reminds us it's also true that Clemson sucks.
Clemson isn't any good and this football program looks like
it is flat out dead.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
So what do you do now?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's Bucking Fits hanging out with you on Fox Sports Saturday,
broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. He's buck
Rising off Jason Fitz and look for anyone that never
saw this.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Fran Brown, the head coach of Syracuse, told the world
after their close win over Connecticut, where he made everybody
run sprints afterwards, that only winners get washed. So his
whole thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
After a game, if you lose, you don't shower congratulations
to fran Brown's entire family today because winners got washed.
Syracuse washed Clemson thirty four to twenty one in a
game that I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Being honest, bug, wasn't even that close.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Syracuse went out there and kick the you know what
out of Clemson, and that just reminded me the whole
time I'm watching it thinking Dabo's great dabb was remarkable.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Gabbo is just a huge part of this era of
college football.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
And also I am watching Dabo get run down by
Syracuse like this is a problem if Clemson wants to
not worry about what they've done but worry about what
they will do in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
It's so nice to be back on the show. It's
so wonderful to be back with you. I took a
nice holiday last week and I went to a lovely
college football game, and I'm excited, Fancy. I'm excited because
I disagree with you right out of the gate. I
think Dabo's swinny sucks. I am.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Go ahead, tell me more.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
No, it's just that he was all of the things
that you just said, but he's not that anymore. They're
off to their worst start in twenty one years. Like
he had this whole crashout earlier in the week on
a question that was completely unrelated to legacy or program building,
or is he going to be around at this point
thirteen minutes this rant went because he just had some bleep.
He had to get off his chest. God love you, Daboh.

(02:25):
I appreciate it. It's a human moment, It's okay. But
at this point, he he is the reason why they
are falling short. It's not cade Klubnik of the defense
or any of these other things, Garrett Riley, the offensive
cordat No, it's Damo. It's the way that he's built
this program. It's the way that he's refused to adapt
to the changing times in college football.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
And what you are seeing is the slow.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
It's been slow, but it's a rot what has set
in at Clemson. And now it's a one to three start.
They're zero to two inny ACC, which is not that
impressive in twenty twenty five. And I think he's at
a point where he's the problem.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's interesting when you say slow, because I immediately sat
there and thought about like Christmas weight, you know, like
how many people in the holidays put out a few
pounds every year and then they never really lose it,
and so wake up five years later and you're like,
we're gonna put on my twenty five pounds. Well you
did it, you know, five pounds at a time over
the last five years, mostly of the holidays. She just
never took it off. Clemson, Dabbo, is that right now?

(03:22):
Like it was fine and it's not been. You're right
in overnight, Okay, Clemson is no longer relevant. And I
hear him because it's part of that rant. He pointed
out how many times they've won the ACC and how
many times they've gone to the College Football Playoffs and
all of these things, and how.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Many championships he's won. And that's fair.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
But I also heard Saban say this morning that you
know you're being judged by a different standard because you
built that standard. And I think that's honest, and so
what you have to do this is inevitable and and
maybe this transfers over to other coaches we talk about
in other sports as well, But like at some point,
I almost live and die by the past.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Performance is not a guarantee of future results.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Like I don't really care about any Like I'll be
full nihilist on this. I don't give a damn about
anything that happened in college football more than three years ago,
because in the last three years, so much of the sport,
the way rosters are built, nil, the transfer portal, so
much has changed since COVID particularly, I'll.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Give you all the way back to twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
If you would like anything that happened pre twenty twenty one,
who cares?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Like?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
You can care, if you want to trash talk your
other fans, you can care. If you want to sit
there and be able to say, well, look at all
the rings like you could care about that, I guess.
But if you're talking about what you do right now,
if your answer in any sort of argument is what
we were great.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
In the eighties, who cares?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Right, So, anything that happened pre twenty twenty one, to
me at this point in college football is prehistoric, And
you're right, like everything Dablo's talking about is prehistoric.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And since these landmark changes have happened, it's just been
a little downtick every year, a little bit downtick every year.
They're one in three, dude, they're one in three with
you lost at home, you got boat raced at home
by Syracuse. Like if that doesn't make you look in
the mirror and say, yeah, I probably need to fix something.
And I just don't know if Dabo is capable of
changing who he is.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
He is a fascinating case study. And Ian tells us
that we have a little bit of the crash out.
I hope it's up a full thirteen minutes, and I
assume it's like a one minute or.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
It's not a minute. Okay, let's hear a little bit.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Can I hear about a minute of Dabos Swimmy's crash
out earlier.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
In the week.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
If they want me gone, they can.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
If they tire of winning, they can send me on
the way, because that's all we've done is win. So
if they tired of winning, we've had. We've won this
league eight out of the last ten years. Is that
not good? I'm just asking is that good? I don't
know if that's good or not. To win your league
eight out of ten years, to go to playoffs seven
out of ten years, being four national championships and went twice. Yeah,
we live down right now. Take your shots. But I
got a long memory case, y'all don't know. We'll be

(05:45):
all right. We'll bounce back. This is a program built
to last, always has been, always will be. And I
would just say, if you give up on us, if
you don't believe on us, because we've lost two games
down to the last trade.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
And we're wanting.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
You didn't believe in us anyway, So it don't matter
you went all in anyway.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
If you're all in, you burn the ships.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Man.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Hey, listen, I mean, Clemson's tired of winning.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
They send me on my way, but I'm gonna go
somewhere else, and coach, I ain't going to the beach. Hell,
I'm fifty five. I got a long way to go.
Y'all gonna have to deal with me for a while.
I had a long way to go. I'm just getting going.
I'm just now good enough to be a head coach.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, just getting going is one and three.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
So he maybe clems it is no longer tired of winning.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
But he's not winning. So are you making the case
against yourself?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
My boy?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Come on, what are we doing here? Dabo Swiney is
at a point where he clearly to me, Fitzy, I
don't think it's too strong an opinion to say that he's.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Just resting on his laurels.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
That was just a whole dissertation on everything that he's done,
not everything that he's set out to do beyond. I'm
fifty five, I'm just getting going. I'm just good enough
to be a head coach, which, by the way, just
an incredible indictment on the way that we view coaches,
because he's right. He could coach for another twenty years
and bother some other program and fool some other program
into giving him money for a coach who's unwilling, at

(07:11):
least unwilling. I don't know if he's unable, but he's
certainly unwilling to adapt to the modern era.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
It's like the way that we view time periods.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Right in human history, there's BC and there's AD before
Nick Saban retired, and there's after Nick Saban retired, and
the whole world is open back up for the college
football taking after Nick Saban retires.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Because the big dog got out.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
No more twenty years of dominance or fifteen years of
dominance at one program that we associate with the hallmark
logo of all of college football. Now Vanderbilt has a
seat at the table. Now Indiana has a seat at
the table, and Davos switty and Clemson and all their
pride and all their championship pedigree is one in three
overall and zero for two in their conference.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
He's buck rising up, Jason fitz Bucket fits hanging out
with you and thinking about something. Our friend and my
co host Adyel who Sports Daily Caroline Fetton says frequently
she says, in the NFL, you pick players, and college
football players pick you. The other part of this is
Dabo's got to look in the mirror and ask himself,
are the best of the best picking him? Because what
is the goal? If the goal is to win a
bunch of football games? Dabbo usually does that. If the

(08:14):
goal is to win the ACC, that's cute. The ACC
sucks so cool, Like, if that's your goal, then go
win the ACC like that.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's fine. That's not the goal for Clemson.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
And I find it interesting and this is always the
dichotomy with coaches when he comes in and says, this
is what we won eight of the last ten championships. Okay,
coaches also come in and say what we did last
year doesn't matter, right, Like, look at all these championships
we played for last week doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Every week is a new week. We're oh and oh.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I had to listen on game day this morning to
a bunch of coaches repeatedly say never look at the scoreboard,
all of these different things, like it is just it's
wild the isms that coaches will come up with that
will tell you you have to be in the moment.
And if that is If that's the case, if I
have to be in the moment on that moment, then
I certainly am not going to be thinking about the past.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
What is the level of winning? That's acceptable? Because Dabo's right.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
If Clemson wants to recalibrate their expectations as a collective group,
if Clemson fans, if Clemson donors, if the university, if
the players, if the coaching staff, if they all want
to change their expectations, say hey, we just want to
win a bunch of football games and hope that we're
in the conversation at the end. Thin cool, Dabbo can
do that for you. Are they willing to change those expectations?

(09:24):
Because I think it's disingenuous to see here and say
we're winning without acknowledging that winning isn't necessarily the expectation
that we have set for Clemson, and Dabbo is part
of what set that expectation.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
These are all completely fair things to point out. It's
going to be a fun day. I mean it already
has been a fun day at college football. We got
Oklahoma and Auburn going on right now. It's going to
be interesting to see how it plays out. The first
half of Michigan and Nebraska was electric, and I'm curious
to see what takes place there down the stretch sits.
There's so many different angles to the college football conversation,

(09:58):
but I think the thing that's most disappointing in the
reason and why we're all so loud about the downfall
of Clemson and Dabo wants to turn it into some
kind of motivational tool, like if you weren't believing in
US now, or you weren't believing in us, then then
of course you're not gonna believe in US now.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Whatever you weren't all in, well, you were the.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
National championship favorite, you had all of the things that
you're supposed to have, You got veteran quarterback play in
a sport where you can't can't keep quarterbacks for more
than two years at a time, it feels hell. You
can't even keep them semester over semester if you fire
your coach, shout out to UCLA and Niko Yamaliava, what
a mess that's become. I'm sure we'll touch on that
at some point throughout the course of the day. Maybe

(10:33):
we won't because it's irrelevant. I think that the sorry
Nico's actually it feels bad.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
It feels bad just digging dirt.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
On a young man's grave because his family made poor
decisions for him. But it's funny because Tennessee is succeeding
without him, and I live in Tennessee anyway. The entire
thing that Davo is is soap boxing about is all
the stuff that we gave him credit for on the
front end. He was the national chi Championship favorite, and

(11:01):
he is disappointed here. So it's squarely on him, and
I understand that coaches are going to it's not just
a one person games. Football is the ultimate team sport
for a reason. There's a million different complications to the
idea of just pinning one thing on one person when
things start to go wrong. But Kate Klubnik had his
best performance of the season today and they still lost
by double digits at home to a Syracuse team. That's

(11:23):
I mean, you know, maybe a little froggy at this point.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Fran Brown seems like he's able to coach players up
beyond a level of expectation, but they still cut it
pretty close this year earlier this year to Yukon the
Mighty Huskies. All right, this is not some got a
world beater college football program.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
In twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Dabo is underachieving and he's lashing out as a result.
I'm sure his press conference this week is going to
be funny for no other reason than he's going to
have to walk, or at least he should have to
walk a bunch of this nonsense that he spent thirteen
minutes ranting about earlier this week.

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Speaker 3 (13:13):
He's Buck Rising.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm Jason Fitz, bucking fits hanging out with you on
a Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
We're gonna talk about teams that are zero.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
And two, which seems interesting because buck is one in one,
as in, we've been in existence for This is week
three of Bucket Fits. He made the first show one
to noh, he missed the second show one in one.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's so nice of him to come into work, merrimack.
Can we finally find him?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like I feel just like there's this cash coming out,
cash coming out, cash coming up. There's no amount of
fines that is appropriate for missing the second ever show.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Jesus drowning me, This is me.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
This is might be my favorite segment we've ever had.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
No, that's fine, I'm rich. I'll pay all your fines.
Eat it, all of you.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It's fine. Somebody, please God cut It's fine. I'm rich.
I'll pay all your fines.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Oh, your damn fines.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
I am the fine system. You cannot find the fine system. No,
actually the system. I won't stand for it. I won't
hear about it. I will pay it just because I can,
and you can eat it.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
I love you, guys. It's gonna be back.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I mean, like you just peek behind the curtain, you know,
Bucket eye for Most people would never know this, but
Buck and I have the same agent.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
We're sitting there, we're talking about like.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
He's headed to uh, he's headed to Ole miss next
weekend and he's going like with a bunch of our
friends and they're going down for a big weekend and
old miss Ole Miss Lsu.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
We're really excited for that. And he was like, you
got to come.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
And I'm sitting here trying to figure out the logistics
when I would have to leave and take the comrades.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Is that's how we connect to do radio and all
these things.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
And he immediately says, he's like, well, Buck, mister show,
why can't you miss the show?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Some of us here believe in the work Buck rising
some of them.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
This is me being patronizing.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I mean, this is just me talking down to him,
and most it's importantly reminding him that I'm better than
he is. And that's the most important theme that we
get out of. Okay, so now I get fined.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Ok Yeah, we're back.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Giving the same sentiment as Buck did.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, you know what, Mary Matt who gets the fines
when this is all done, Like I think maybe Mary
actually gets the fines he's gonna be fine in the mail.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Expect that in the mail they'll be there. It's like
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
We're just going to show up in a mailbox will
have like a pink envelope in it and it just
has a fine amount in and then we have to
venmo the team.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
So Bucket, buck Rising send letters. Now, I'm pretty I'm
pretty well rounded. Now yeah, I mean I mean now
I never know how to do it.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, the concept, the concept. See this is the thing.
Buck I'm old, like I'm so old. How old is he?
I'm so old like my my My family was broke
ass growing up, right, so we didn't have computers.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
We couldn't afford computers. I typed my high school papers
on a typewriter. That is a true story. Like I
had to use a typewriter. Okay, that's how old I am.
And like Mary Max is just like, well I figured
out how you mail? Because how would you? Why would
you know? Why you know how to mail a letter?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Like I love watching these old law and orders and
I'm watching these old law or listen.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
To them all I'm at the gym all the time.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And when you listen to the ones from the nineties,
like one of the cops is getting all the credit
because he's like, this.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Is called electronic mail.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I know how to use it. We can we can
send this through electronic mail. And I'm laughing at the
concept of In the nineties everyone's like, how do you
do that? And now it was like, how do you
mail like.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
What stamps to people still by stamps? I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I recently did it, but only because I had I
can't remember the circumstance that required me to actually mail
a letter. But I'm you know, I'm somewhere in between
you and Mary Mack as far as my ability to uh,
you know, function as a normal human being. I feel
like I have all of these tools at my disposal.
Sometimes you just gotta dust it off a little bit,

(16:47):
which feels like a conversation that we're probably gonna have
to have around the Kansas City Chiefs who are down
oh two and trying to get right this weekend.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
There's a bunch of oh to two teams across the league.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Hell, there's even an oh and three if you're looking
at my Mike McDaniel not in a great situation following
Thursday night football, and I am curious fits if I
made you pick one zero to two team that was
not the Kansas City Chiefs that you most expected to
get a win this weekend, who might you choose? Because
I don't know that I feel great about Kansas City,

(17:20):
even though they're playing the fellow oh to two New
York Football Giants.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
So, first and foremost, there is a disturbing trend in
the NFL that I don't think people are paying enough
attention to. There is now a massive divide between the
good and the suck. Last year, double digit number of
teams lost double digit games.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
We are just careening towards that. Again.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
The lower the bottom class of the NFL is just
in trouble, And to me, that's like, that's inarguable at
this point now, I think if you're talking about oh
and two teams, I'm not ready to just throw the
flag out and say, Okay, they're done and they could
get a win this weekend. I still don't believe in
the Jags, and I still refuse to believe that the
Texans are that dead. I don't think the Texans are

(18:03):
a great football team. I don't think the Texans are
headed to assured death. So the Texans sit at oho
and two. They're taking on a Jacks team that's gotten
a little bit of momentum early in the season. They're
one and one, but everybody wants to buy into Liam Cohen.
I'm not so sure on Liam Coen. I think that
that Houston Texans ohero to two team has a really
good shot at a win. But also I'm with you, like,

(18:25):
let's let's just get weird. Are we one hundred percent
sure that the Giants won't move the football on the Chiefs?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'm not one hundred percent sure that the Giants. I mean,
I saw that number at eight and a half. I
don't know, Man, that just feels beefy. That feels beefy
for me, knowing that they've got, you know, one of
the better wide receivers in the league that I know
carved up the Cowboys defense. Cowboys defense is no good,
but the Chiefs defense hasn't been great through the first
couple of weeks either. So, man, I don't know, Like
I feel like the Giant if I'm a Giants fan.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I feel a little bit maybe I've been maybe a
little confident.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, I don't know what to do with the Giants
right now because Russell Wilson last game and obviously he's
got my league neighbors. Who has an argument for one
of the best wide receivers in football. It's not even
an argument. He definitely is one of the best wide
receivers in football. He's just stuck in football hell currently
for the early part of his career. But Russ throwing

(19:22):
for as many passing yards in a game as he's
ever thrown for and looking like a legitimate threat back
there for a Giants team that I have zero expectations
for whatsoever? Isn't this the kind of game that feels
like it could go in their favor. I'm not saying
that I would pick the Giants straight up. That would

(19:43):
be a fool's errand you would ask me what kind
of drugs I was on.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
But it's a night game. It's a weird night game.
I guess it's just.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Because it's the New York market and it's the Chiefs.
It's worth NBC having at this point. But the Giants
hosting the Kansas City Chiefs, whose defense has not been
as stout as we're accustomed to seeing, and it's early
on of the season. These things try not to assign
too much to a one or two game sample size.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
We'll see what happens on Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
But they're not explosive and they're not particularly adept at
stopping teams this year. They've still got players who can
make plays and if called upon at any given point,
and we feel like a unit can step up in
a single game sample size. Miami's defense has been the
biggest issue for them.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
All season long.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I thought they played Josh Allen very very well until
the damn finally broke and two A throws a pick
and everything snowballs at the end.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Of the game as a result.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
But the whole reason they were in that game is
because the defense played up way above expectation. Could the
Giants have a game Maybe it's one of the few
games that they win the season.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Nobody's going to pick them to make.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
The postseason or even push for a wild card or
anything like that, particularly given their division. But why can't
the Giants find a way to push the Chiefs when
they're teetering a little bit?

Speaker 5 (20:53):
And it's I mean, hell, that would be like New
York Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
It is going to be interesting to see because pure.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Panic will result if somehow the Chiefs start oh and three,
I will say this loudly. The Chiefs could start oh
and six and I'm still not going to give up
on them. That offense is gonna look different with Rashid Rice.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
We'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I want to get a measurement of where you are
on some of these O and two teams.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Is it already time to give up? We're gonna do
that first.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Let's get Martin Weiss up here so we can get
an update on what's going on.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right now across the landscape.

Speaker 11 (21:22):
Right now, you got Oklahoma with a three point lead
and the ball as John Materia completes a first down
pass to his wide receiver thirteen to ten the score
with just under three minutes left in the third quarter.
It's been a back and forth affair in Norman, in Nebraska, Michigan.
Right now, with the ball in a seven point lead
twenty seven to twenty ten minutes left in the fourth

(21:44):
quarter of the air, the twenty first ranked Wolverines obviously.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
In the lead. Notre Dame is in a rain delay.

Speaker 11 (21:49):
They do have a fifteen point lead twenty eight to
thirteen over per due twenty fourth ranked firighting hoversh oh
and two on the year. Thus far, let's go to
some unranked games. U se F with a twenty seven
to nine lead over North Carolina. North England does have
the ball go Lopez was knocked out of this game
again fifteen minutes left in the fourth quarter. Bill Belichick

(22:10):
lead needing a lot more out of his offense if
he's gonna, you know, keep this record above five hundred.
Earlier today, we saw Clemson fall to Syracuse, the final
score thirty four to twenty one. Clemson now one to
three to zero to two in conference play. This is
the first time Clemson started out one and three since
two thousand and four. Big wins for Oregon Tennessee Texas

(22:31):
Tech seventeenth ranked Red Raiders with a thirty four to
ten win over Utah Memphis with a last second score
to go ahead and take the lead and win over
Arkansas thirty two to thirty one. Let's see what else
we've got going on here. Florida State has just been
mollywopping people. It's fifty nine to seven now, five minutes

(22:52):
left in the third quarter. The score at the end
of the third first quarter was thirty five to seven,
Florida State over Kent State. So you know, maybe maybe
Dabo can look at Florida State last year of Florida
State this year and say transfer portal does work.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Guys, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
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(23:32):
early to give up on anything. Two wins, two losses,
it's too early to give up.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Disagree, Like that's wrong. Disagree.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't want to be that guy that's like, all right,
it's done.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
But like I struggle with a lot of these, like
you tell me what you think the Jets are owing
to The Jets suck this year, right, Like we just
like let's just have this proclamation, like I'll give you
a team and then you decide where are they are
they suck, It's okay, or they're going to be fine,
all right, like like, well, let's we'll do this, meet it,
we'll do. Suck, we'll do just fine, We'll do like, no,

(24:04):
it's gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Right. So the Jets they suck, right.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
They suck. They suck.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
I think it's a situation where Justin Fields, at no
point in his NFL career has ever been a good
or consistent, more importantly starting quarterback. And they're asking a
lot of a dude, who is there basically unapproved deal.
I know it's two years, what two years, twenty million
a year, but it's not something that he's expected to
turn that franchise around, I think. I mean, Jets fans

(24:30):
are the most optimistic, like preseason fan base, year over
year over year, no matter how many times they go
through it, of any sports fandom I feel like you
can find in pro football.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
But yeah, they suck.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, and Toad Taylor going to be starting for them
because Fields is in concussion protocol this weekend. It's just
a rebuild. They suck, and it's fine. It's fine, you suck.
It's a rebuild, that's all.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Wait, Ian, Yes, aren't you a Jets.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right, Yes, yes, I was waiting, but yeah, I mean
did they suck?

Speaker 12 (24:58):
Well?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I actually yeah, they suck.

Speaker 12 (24:59):
But I actually I kind of disagree Buck because I
think that Jets fans like have known that they're gonna
suck and have accepted that. Like maybe there was a
little bit of optimism around Fields, but I wouldn't call
it like true optimism. It's more like who else were
you going to add this offseason? Like who besides cam Ward?
And they didn't have the number one pick in the draft,
What available quarterback this offseason would have been a better

(25:21):
ad than justin Fields?

Speaker 4 (25:23):
No, I think that's reasonable pushback, But I don't know
what I felt.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
That's the only let me ask you this because I
don't disagree with you. I think Jets came in. Jets
fans came in with maybe more more reasonable expectations. You
believe that Jets fans will not lose their minds if
this is a three and fourteen team. It depends what
they look like if they like I truly believe, if
they have a three and fourteen season but every loss
they look like they were playing hard and look competitive,

(25:49):
I truly don't think Jets fans will be that angry
at the team. It's the fact that last week they
got absolutely destroyed by the Bills and didn't even look competitive, Like, yeah,
the Bills are.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Follow up questions or that follow up question or that.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Three and fourteen, and we continue to see what we've
seen this year, which to be fair right now, looks
like an abject disaster at the quarterback position in college football.
That gives us no indication that picking first, second, third,
or fourth is giving you a franchise savior at quarterback,
meaning three and fourteen this year, and Justin Fields might
still be your best option next year at the quarterback position.

Speaker 12 (26:21):
Also, yeah, I mean I'm not panicking over that possibility yet,
just because I mean, he's on a two year contract,
and he looked good in Week one, like he actually
it's you know, he looked really bad in Week two,
and he looked really good in Week one, like that
was the best game he's ever played in his career
in Week one against the Steelers. At least that was
the notion coming out of the game.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
We can all agree that the Dolphins suck, right, Oh three,
the Dolphins suck.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
We've covered that stik okay, okay, so so so bad.
The Browns. The Browns, I mean all right, the Browns
are two. They saw the Tennessee Titans are terrible that
just you cover this team, my friend will give you
the floor.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
They are pathetic. They are truly, truly pathetic. They are lost.
They are god forsaken. They are getting ready to go
down three to Daniel Jones, the comeback player of the Year.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
It is unbelievable, FITZI.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Not only do they suck, but their fan base they
haven't completely given up on them, because KM word is
enough to sustain you through a football.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Season where you knew you were going to suck anyway.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Like Ian is pointing out, there was no expectation Tennessee Titans.
We're going to beat the Denver Broncos on the road
or host the Los Angeles Rams and beat them either.
But Fitz, they had their home opener last week and
they were Attendance, or rather capacity at Nissan Stadium is
sixty nine thousand plus. The announced attendance, which is tickets distributed,

(27:46):
was ten thousand lower than That was less attended than
the preseason finale. They can't even get people to buy
into the idea to show up for their number one
overall pick.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
They're banged.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I mean that when you get the number one overall
pick in the draft and you select a quarterback, the
one thing you are guaranteed you are supposed to get
from that is hope, and hope is the driver for
everything for the first three years of that career. To
be in this situation where Titans fans don't even really
have hope is it is alarming.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
So they suck the Texans. I think the Texans. I'm
gonna put the Texans in the just fine, just fine.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm gonna start a new brand, okay, and this new
brand is going to be restaurants. It's closed, it's everything.
And when you walk in and you eat the food, like,
it's not good. It's not bad, it's just fine. Like
when you walk in and you buy the clothes, you're like,
it's not high quality, it's not low quality. There's nothing
really colorful.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's just fine.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Like I'm going to normalize a whole brand of just fine,
and I'm gonna sell all Texans stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
The Texans are just fine.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Like, I don't think they're not just fine. Their offensive
line sucks. Their offense is so constipated as a result,
their defenses gnarly.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I'm getting ready to go to Houston next weekend UH
to cover that Titans Texans game. But I don't know, man,
if you can't get anything done and you're talking about
a year where you you are correct as.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
A team, they will be just fine the AFC.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
They can pick off the bottom feeders in the AFC,
and they play in the worst division in football.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
So ultimately they will be just fine.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
But if Daniel Jones and the Colts passed them by,
are they feeling just fine?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Daniel Jones and the Colts will pass them by, and
I am so right.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
The Kansas City Chiefs are going to be great. The
Chiefs are going to be great. The Chiefs are going
to be in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Again, I will say this, if the Chiefs start zero
to six, they're still making the playffs until I see the.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Little letter next in their name.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Whatever that letter is, I don't remember if it's an
exert or whatever, the letter that says sorry about your season,
which usually me as a Raiders fan, I get by
like week nine. Whenever you see that I've been mathematically eliminated,
I will then count it off, but Rashi Rice is
going to be back after week six. Xavierworthy is going
to be fully healthy at some point. That will give
the offense the dynamic element it needs. Everything will get

(29:56):
better as this season goes on, because that's what the
Chiefs do. And then we're gonna have to listen in
sufferably to every just more on with the microphone, including you,
and I say I don't want to face the Chiefs
in the playoffs like the Chiefs. The Bills could be
seventeen and no going into it, and the Chiefs could
sneak in at nine and eight.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Will be like, well, they definitely don't want that kids
in city matchup.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's what we are all gonna do and it's gonna
lead me to consume even more drugs.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
But they don't like they are not They are not
a team that you can in the same way that Buffalo.
You're not gonna believe that they can do it until
they finally get past the Patrick Mahomes hump.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
You're not gonna believe that the Chiefs are dead until
you finally see them deceased on the field.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
That way, there's I'm with you, I and the one
six thing is a bit dramatic, like if they go
on six, they're banked. But I have a really hard
time They're not gonna be They're not gonna be interesting,
They're not gonna be fun to watch. It feels like
that's been the case for the past couple of years.
And yet they won fifteen games, which is a franchise record.
They were in the Super Bowl, they got smoked, but
still they they have enough to make it work.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Unfortunately for the rest of the All.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Right, the Panthers and the Saints suck right, like, no argument,
no pushback, right, just what it.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Doesn't sneaky Rookie of the Year campaign?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
No, yeah, that's great. That's great.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
And as soon as they get a capable quarterback or
real head coach and a real organization around them, it's
going to be so fun to watch him play the Bears.
Oh and two, the Bear suck right, beaar suck Okay,
So that leads us to the Giants. The Giants oh
and two, And I don't know, man, I just don't know.
Like I could see this Giant season getting to six
or seven wins and it's like, it's not great. It's

(31:31):
kind of what Ian was just describing for the Jets,
which I think is probably fools goal for the Jets,
but it's real for the Giants.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
They don't win a bunch of football games, but by.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
The end of the year, you're like, I don't know, man,
this defense is tricky and they've got their young quarterback
that's played well, they got one of the best wide
receivers in the league. They won seven games, Like I
could see the Giants getting to that six or seven
win tier and being right right at that level of
mediocrity where they have a tough decision to make it
the end of the year on whether or not they're
going to run it.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Back or not.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
This is not the end all be all, But what's
wrong with Dexter Lawrence. He's been airy ineffective so far
in the early going of the season, and it's like
that's not going to make or break their season. But
that's a huge part of the reason to buy in
on the Giants right now if they can't get one
of the best defensive tackles. If I mean, there's an
argument to be made that he has been the best
defensive tackle prior to his injury last year. I'm curious

(32:18):
to see what happens there. But I guess, I mean,
are we just doing that based on off expectations.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Because there were none?

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Like people thought that the Giants could be again the
worst team in football.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
I mean, I know the Titans were the worst team
in football last.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Year, but that they could be the worst team in
football this year with the coach and general manager fire
during the season, I mean that six or seven wins
would feel like a coup No.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
And you're right, the expectations coming into a season skew.
Whether or not we assign the word suck to it,
I think that's probably a fair thing to say.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
We'll keep breaking this dow.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Plus, we got to get you caught up right now
Michigan Nebraska is giving us all sorts of drama. We're
going gets you caught up on that game next. Don't
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Speaker 3 (34:00):
Nebraska's losing to Michigan. I had so much hope here
for a great game. I had hope.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He's Buck rising on Jason Fitz for our buddy Will Compton.
I thought the fighting Will Comptons might be able to
pull one out for Will, but that does not seem
to be the case.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
There's still a little bit of time left in this,
but as we stand right now, Nebraska isn't able to
get anything done quickly, which they're going to need to
do at this point because they are down by two scores.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
So they're down thirty to twenty. We hit the two
minute warning.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
It feels like all of the airs out of tire
and I just want to remind everybody buck I'm gonna
make a declarative statement here. Nebraska is what Clemson's going
to become because Nebraska in the nineties was everywhere like
when we had limited windows to watch college football games
on TV. I know that's hard for people to realize,
but there didn't used to be a world where you

(34:49):
could watch every game every single Saturday. Certain brands resonated
in the eighties, seventies, eighties, nineties more because they were
just on TV all the time.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That was why it was such a substit.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
It was in enormous, enormous when Notre Dame did their
initial deal with NBC, because they had a weekly TV
partner and a destination spot you would always see Notre
Dame football.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
And that was truly unprecedented at the time. Nebraska was
part of that sort of era where they were dominant
at a time where they could also dominate the conversation
and the culture around it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And so because of that, it just felt like they
were going to run college football forever. Nebraska now is
fine and to put a real bow on it. Versus
the top twenty five. Coming into this game, they're taking
on a top twenty five team. They have twenty straight
twenty seven straight losses against top twenty five teams. Matt Rule,
their head coach, has seventeen straight losses against top twenty

(35:41):
five teams.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Nebraska is good enough to win some.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Football games there're three and oh, right now, that's that's cool, congratulations,
But then when they have to take on actually even
decent teams, and I don't.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Think Michigan's all that good. Michigan has beaten them by
ten and Michigan has been playing with their food for
portions this game. Nebraska can't stop them.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
So it's just a reminder to Clemson fans, like, look
back at how relevant Nebraska was in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
And that'll be kind of what your kids kids feel
about Clemson.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Well, and it's not like to your point, Michigan's not
overwhelming them, right, They're four twelve on third down. Bryce
Underwood has one hundred and five yards passing. But this
is the thing that will always differentiate the Big Ten
teams that Nebraska, at least in this current iteration and
as a part of the Big Ten, has not been
able to meet the moment on They're just getting.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Out physical fitsy.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
They are getting run literally rough shod over at this
point two hundred and seventy nine yards rushing for the
Michigan Wolverines and touchdown after touchdown after touchdown on the ground.
They're just doing what Big Ten teams do when it
comes to having success, not just in the regular season.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
In the postseason. It's bullyball.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Nebraska is trying to play a style that does not
work in this conference, or does not I mean, it
works to an extent, but it's not going to win
you football games the way that it needs to be.
On it again, it's not going to be pretty aesthetically pleasing,
but it's going to be effective, and that's the thing
that what we've seen so far with Matt Ruhle at

(37:10):
Nebraska has not been their mo They just keep airing
it out with Ryola, and listen, that's the best player
on the offense. I understand the need for them to
put the ball in the quarterback's hands and let him
do what he can do. But at this point he's
had forty one passing attempts. That is not a successful
formula for your quarterback. That has not balanced offense. That

(37:34):
is not going to take pressure off of the young
man who Okay, can I can completely football aside? How
do I talk about Dylan Ryola without actively letting my
displeasure in the fact that he keeps pretending to be
Patrick Mahomes but playing playing at office as if he
doesn't know that he's pretending to be Patrick Mahomes. Because

(37:57):
I don't want to prey on a young man's downfall
just because I don't like the way that he acts
in these particular situations, not.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Like he's a problem or anything like that. I just
think it's weird old behavior.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Look, I mean, at this point, the gloves are off
for college.

Speaker 12 (38:15):
He's gonna start. He's gonna start, cause playing as Daniel
Daniel Jones. Now, oh my god, I mean you're not.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I guess to me, you don't have to be kind
about it because at this point, Dylan Royala makes millions
of dollars millions.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Of dollars, and nobody's still a child.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, I mean, look, this is always my argument on
that I am the biggest champion in all of sports
that didn't play the game for athletes getting paid, and
part of the reason I'm the biggest champion in all
of sports for athletes getting paid. I will remind every
single one of you loudly, not a damn person listening
he has ever sat there and thought, huh, what was
justin Timberlake's education system?

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Like nobody right.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
So I have lived in the concept for years that
if we are going to let kids be actors and musicians,
and we're gonna go let them earn earn at a
young age because of their talent, I'll be damned if
I'm gonna stop an athlete from doing the exact same thing.
But the fact of the matter is, if you go
see a concert for a kid, if you went to
a Handa Montana concert in her prime, and all of
a sudden Miley Cyrus was having a bad day, Nobody

(39:15):
would step back and say, I don't really want to
judge Miley, She's a kid. Through a lot of the
judgment we've done for young musicians in the world and
the way they've acted, the way they've dressed her, the
way they've sang in particular moments, nobody ever comes back
and says, oh, man, you know what, that's a kid like,
let's just calm down.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Those are kids up there on stage. No no, no, no,
no no. So I'm not going to pull the gloves
just because somebody.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Just like I've always said, I want them to earn,
I've also always said I want that if we want
the same standard, that means when you suck, you get
a tough review. We'll keep you updated because we are
waiting on a replay on targeting, We've got a touchdown
possibly coming for Nebraska, drama all over the place. We
will keep you updated on what is happening throughout the
college football landscape as.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
We come down to the very wire. He's Buck Rise,
I'm Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with you on Fox
Sports Radio on a Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
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Speaker 3 (40:10):
He's Buck Rising.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I'm Jason Fitzbuck told you just a few minutes ago,
Nebraska couldn't do anything to stop the run, and what
do you know, that turned out to be the thing
that was the death of them in this game, as
an on side kick that they couldn't recover gave Michigan
the opportunity to run the ball a few times, and
when you know, first down, this thing is over. Michigan
is going to take down Nebraska. And as I said earlier,

(40:34):
Nebatska continues to be the theme for a team that
simply can't beat good football teams, which is so much
of the college football landscape. And it's interesting because when
I heard a few years ago as a college football
is dead, I would argue it's better than ever. I
would argue that it's more interesting than ever. I would
argue that the opportunity for teams like Vandy to suddenly
become competitive is the thing that makes Saturdays more interesting

(40:58):
than they've ever been. But I I'm also curious, from
Buck rising standpoint, how do teams like Wisconsin, Nebraska, the
middle of the pack, teams that we stopped paying attention to,
how did they ever matter at that level again, because
it certainly feels like certain programs, like we talked about
Clemson getting their butt kicked in the fact that Clemson's dead,
maybe they need to recalibrate.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Maybe Clemson fans need to have.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
The same set of expectations now that Nebraska fans have.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
But that's a weird subset to get into, where, man,
we just.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Hope we qualify for a bowl and then every once
in a while we'll shock people and maybe we'll be
a contender in our own conference. There's a whole middle
class and it's sort of irrelevant in the new college
football landscape.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Man, you mentioned Wisconsin, who just got run by Maryland today,
And I know Maryland's sneaky good and they've got a
true freshman quarterback that people are excited about, rightfully so,
But the Luke Fickle Wisconsin thing is is a marriage
between coach and program that I was convinced was going
to be good for both sides, and it just has

(42:00):
dunk to I heaven at this point in time, I
don't know what to do about the coaching situation.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
It also sounds like, I mean.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
I hate to just reduce it down to the common
denominator FITZI, but isn't it just about NFL or rather
NIL financing, Like how many resources or how much of
a war chest you have to be able to compete
in recruiting, to maintain talent, to be.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Able to poach things out of the portal that way.
I don't. I hate to be reductive about it.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I mean, it is if you're you know, if you're
one of the best of the best, it is if
you're one of the top teams in the country, then
it's how much ail are you you raising? So yes,
I think it's that. If you're Georgia, it's that. If
you're Texas A and M. You know, it's that if
you're one of these programs that just spends a ton
of money.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
But Texas tell me apparently good God, I mean, but
you tell me how in the hell is Vandy competing?
Because we know Vandy isn't out here throwing that kind
of anil money out. Like maybe it's just it.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Every once in a while you get somebody really special
that resonates with the program. Clark Lee resonates, Diego Pavia resonates.
Maybe that's why Vanderbilt becomes a contender. But I look
the fact that Vandy is a contender. I look at
the fact that now the group of five matters so
weird schools like we don't pay attention to, like too Lane,
people had eyes on them and say, WHOA, what's too
late going to do?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Obviously at my homersm on it.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
But UNLV really struggled today to get a sneaky win
against Miami of Ohio. But still UNLV has a real
shot at the college football playoffs. So I hear you
that for the best of the best, it's about how
much money can you raise. For the rest, there is
still relevance to be found. I just don't know how
you find it. Like Michigan State playing at eleven o'clock
to night against USC is just a reminder that nobody
cares about Michigan State anymore. And I don't know that

(43:33):
that's necessarily a great deal. I don't know how you
fix that. But I also feel like college football is
healthier than ever. So I feel like I'm a hypocrite
in my own world.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
No, I it's an interesting conversation there because Vanderbilt does
have a bit of a lightning in a bottlefield. They're
about to kick off about ten minutes from where I'm
sitting right now on West End against Georgia State, who
beat them last year, ironically enough, and the Diego Pavia
clark Lee phenomenon. I mean, Pavi is tweeting publicly that

(44:02):
he's not going to try and come back for the
seventh for a seventh year of college football. I am
going to wait to see what happens there. I'm not
going to take his word for it on Twitter, because
I think those things can change as you work your
way through a season if you don't feel like you
achieved your ultimate goal. But they are also getting resources
at Vanderbilt, FITZI, which is a crazy thing to say,
like you are actually getting investment that way.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
But there's a.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Larger conversation I think to be had about the state
of college football on the whole, is are we just
going to expand the middle class of programs that we
don't necessarily expect to compete for a national title anymore?
Like we can have programs that get into the playoff
and are the SMUs.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
And the Indianas of the world.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
But nobody realistically thinks that Indiana or Vanderbilt, I mean,
Pavia thinks that Vanderbilt's going to be competing for a
national championship, And I respect that, and I appreciate the mindset.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
He's clearly manifesting something.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
The power in next to ESPN gives you a twenty
five percent chance. Who would have ever thought that, man,
he would have a twenty five percent of the college
football playoff. You mentioned Indiana, Like, if Indiana wins tonight,
they're going to be in a driver's seat to have
a real opportunity at a second college football playoff. But
now I don't know how much relevance, Like great, congratulations,
you got to the playoff where you can get your
ass kicked by one of the big of the big.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
But that's the whole That's the hard part about this buck.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Like I'm looking at teams like Indiana saying, my god,
Indiana is relevant, But then I'm looking over here saying,
Nebraska's just not They're just not. So like what, I
don't know how to make sense of any of it.
Like one second, I think it's the best moment we've
ever seen in college football history right now because there's
so many programs in both sure, and then the next
moment I look around, I'm like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
There's just a bunch of programs that used to matter.
We don't really care about it anymore.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Well and there, yeah, I mean that's the evolution of
the sport, right, Things are going to become cyclical, though
that cyclical that way. Alabama has had terrible stretches of football.
They're also the most dominant college football program in the
history with two of the two best coaches in the
history of the sport. Like both of those things can
be so, and we'll see what happens to Alabama's they
work their way through the meat of their SEC schedule
here coming up.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
But in particular, they're gonna get killed. Alabama's gonna lose.
They're gonna end up losing three or four games this year.
Their fans are gonna lose their minds. Alabama fans I.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Wanted to win the power Ball to buy out the
bor is gonna get her away.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Alabama fans last year destroyed me on social media because
I said, yeah, you don't have Nick Saban, You're gonna
lose two or three games.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
You don't usually do that. You're gonna miss the College
Football Playoff. All I heard about was what an absolute
moron I was for months and months and months and
then and then none of them managed to tweet me
during the College football player. By the way, touchdown for Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Oklahoma scored a late touchdown against Auburn at home a
tier with the nine yard rushing touchdown gives Oklahoma the
lead late in the fourth quarter. We will keep you
updated on what that looks like. I'm sure they will
go for two. They are up twenty two seventeen of
four fifty four to go. So again like this game,
this game is incredibly exciting to me, and this game
matters to me.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
But does Auburn matter anymore?

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Like?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I just don't know where I fall on any of it.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Well, Auburn's a weird, weird case study here because they
I did not have expectations for Auburn this year. The
biggest talking point around Auburn was how much golf h you
freesis playing in lane kifven making jokes on social media
about it. Right, That's the crazy thing about SEC play
this year is how much it's flipped on its head.
A two point conversion not able to be converted for

(47:18):
Oklahoma an incomplete pass there, so.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
The score will stay Heisman Matier had him, he just
missed him. Like everybody's put Heisman Matier all over this thing,
Like I don't know.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
He had a twenty twenty two to seventeen is what
the score is in favor of Oklahoma at home at
this point, Like FITZI said, we'll keep an eye on
that for you as we move forward. But that's that's
the weird thing about college football is like we used
to be able to, with some reasonable level of expectation,
predict how this sport was going to play out. Now

(47:49):
that's no longer the case. Texas, Clemson, all these teams
at the top of the top of the preseason rankings
with quarterbacks with a lot a lot of hype around him.
Those of the teams that are falling the most short
in the early phase of college football. Now that we're
a quarter of the way through the season, or will
soon be a quartered away through the season, which is

(48:09):
a crazy enough thing to say, I think it leaves
the door open for those possibilities.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
But FITZI, I almost think you.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Have to take it year by year, Like you can't
just bank on a program being successful no matter what.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Like Tennessee made.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
The College Football Playoff last year, Nico Ayamalaiava was somebody
that they were going to build around, and they were
going to try and find a way back into prominence
that way, or at least get themselves a little closer
to the Georgia's or the Ohio States, the Oregans of
the world than Nico transfers. It's a mess, the UCLA thing.
They swap quarterbacks. Joey Aguilar comes in. He's been a
revelation Tennessee with zero expectations after the Nico thing. Looks

(48:48):
like one of the best twelve teams in the country.
Not just because they put it on Trent dil for
in uab today, but because I was at that Georgia
game and they went toe to toe with a team
that looked as good as any team I've seen play
or take the field so far this year. I just
think it's literally a season overseason sample size and that
you cannot marry too many expectations to programs the way

(49:09):
that we used to with the level of Okay, they're
going to be the kind of dynasty that Alabama was
at its heights. Nobody's ever going to be able to
achieve that ever again, given the.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
Current state of the sport well.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
And with that mindset, I think that's part of why
you have to seize the moment that you have. Right
Like SMU was in the College Football Playoff, which was great.
SMU is not going to be in the College football
Playoff this year. Right, Poise State was in the College
Football Playoff, which was great.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
They're not going to be in the College football Playoff
this year.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I do think to your point, if you accept that
every year is a new year, at least until we
get to the point that there's long term contracts and
a collective bargaining association and all of these things for
college football, which I think part of the future once
it's built like the NFL and there's a salary cap.
All of these things I think are inevitable until that point.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
You really are year to year.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
And if you're year to year, you damn well better
make the best of the year that you have, right
Like this concept of well, even looking at Texas, if
Archer is gonna you know, Arch just needs this year,
He'll get better this year and then next year point
they'll be killer. I don't know, like that's just a
lot if this than that that I don't think necessarily
runs for college football, right, So I think it actually
puts more to your point, if we're going to live

(50:18):
in that society, which I think is wildly exciting. That's
what we love about the NFL, even though it's not real.
The NFL has sold us the concept that every year
a new team has a shot at the Super Bowl. Again,
it may be the most dynastic league in all of sports,
So I don't think it's actually true. The NBA does
a much better job having a new champion every year.
But the fact that you can constantly go from worse
to first, maybe that is part of what the future

(50:39):
of college football looks like. And if we accept that,
that becomes kind of exciting.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Isn't that the thing that they've kind of been after though,
Like I know, they're trying to They're not trying to
completely run parallel to the NFL in the way that
the sport is formatted, but they're trying to take the
best parts of the NFL and turn it into college
football advantages that way.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
I do think that that makes it, at least for me.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
And this is the you used an sat word earlier
in the show. The dichotomy between the what's the word
that Josh Pate would use the casual college football fan
versus the legacy college football fan. Right, the legacy college
football fan believes that the sport that they know and
that they love is dead, dying, or gone. Right, the

(51:24):
casual college football fan is more intrigued by the current
state of college football. The whole purpose of this was
to make the tent larger for more people to have
interest in what is America's second most popular sport and
it's not even close, but to still try and find
ways to expand upon that, to make it less regional
while still keeping the tribal nature of what makes college

(51:47):
football great. I think they've successfully accomplished that, and that
you have so much unknown coming into the college football season,
or you have things that surprise you and prolong your
interest in the season, where I think a lot of
college football fan bases, if you're petering out around mid
October or something like that, you can check out and
start worrying about recruiting and what your next phase of

(52:09):
the program's.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Life cycle is going to be. Now you have to stick.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
With it the whole way through, or you're keeping more
fan bases engaged the whole way through By the nature
of the way that you've reconstructed this thing. I know
a lot of people are against it. I personally am
for it. I think it's created a more dynamic product
across the board, even if the teams at the top
are still.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
Going to end up winning.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
At the end of the day, we will get you
updated on Oklahoma and Auburn, and I will tell you
why all of the changes in college football are not
only making this season the best, but they were wildly necessary.
I'll give you the actual information that tells you why
college football had to do the things that it has
done and why it's working. He's about rising up, Jason Fitz.
We're hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. They're

(52:53):
eating frozen grapes right now. In Oklahoma. They did not
get the two point conversion. They only had a twenty
two to seven seventeen lead, but their tenth sack of
the game against Auburn is a safety, and now with
the minute sixth left, Auburn has no choice but to
free kick the ball back to Oklahoma. With only one

(53:13):
time out left and a minute six left, this thing
is done. Stick a fork in or Oklahoma is about
to beat Auburn. He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
We're hanging out with you on Bucket Fits on a
Fox Sports Saturday.

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we were talking about the changes in college football, and Buck,
I'm gonna give you some information on what change was necessary.
College football fans don't want to hear this, but I'm

(53:46):
gonna beat behind the curtain and I'm going to reveal
top secrets. I don't really think they were secret. But
the ESPN world does what's called a college Football Seminar
every year, So every single person that works in college
football comes together for like three days of a college
football seminar, and you're educated on what the new initiatives
are for the year, the new rules for they all
of these different things. I'm getting an education here. Apparently

(54:09):
a free kick can a free kick beyond site It
it looks like that's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Anyway, we'll keep you up.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Did I was at the College Football Seminar, right, and
the College Football Seminar in twenty eighteen, I think it
was twenty nineteen. One of the years I was there,
they did an entire presentation on the average age area
of the country in demographic of college football fans, and
the point and purpose of the presentation was for everyone
to start thinking outside the box on how you stop

(54:35):
from aging out of college football and really, if you
put true serum in the veins, what they were saying
without saying it is how do we prevent college football.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
From becoming Major League Baseball?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Because when you wake up one day and the average
age of your consumer, the average portion is obviously the
lower southern ports of the United States south of the
Mason Dixon lineses the majority of the audience. Obviously the
Midwest gets some from the Big Ten. The average age
at the time was I think around fifty sixty years
old and it was a white guy, right, So that's
your audience. And they were looking at and saying, how

(55:05):
do we make sure we get more audience? In part
of the reason that I hosted the digital Countdown to
Game Day show was how do we introduce younger people,
how do we get snapchat into college football? These were
all initiatives because what they saw was a concern for
the future of college football fans, essentially aging out. Nobody
wants to hear that in college football. But all of
these rules did not come from out of nowhere. In part,

(55:27):
they came from wanting to figure out a way to
wanting to figure out a way to increase the game.
But in part it came from trying to figure out
how they make sure that they got themselves in the
right position moving forward. That's exactly what they did. So
all of these changes happened for a reason. There was
an attempt at an onside free kick. I didn't even know.
I'm gonna be honest with y'all, I didn't know, Buck,

(55:48):
you could do it illegal touching.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Looks like it didn't go ten yards, But did you
know that you could onside free kick?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
No, I'm learning this in real time, which is much
more difficult to do with the SoundOff in the studio.
As I'm listening to you regale me about college football
trying to prevent itself.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I'm trying to talk about it while I'm reading captions,
seeing all of this.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
The degree of difficulty on this, not to not to
brag on us, but we're we're doing the best that
we can with what we've got going on at this point.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
But either way, wait, wait, wait, can Mary Mack? Can
we get can we get unfined for this? Like we
just did a really nice job of that? Is there
an unfined system?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
You asking me so now? No, man, I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
The rules with an iron fist.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
She is in Los Angeles, fine for asking me. Actually,
look La, La, hear me La. Whoever is listening to
this right now driving around in La.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Got somebody.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
If you are the producer of a television network, you
need Mary Mack to be the next judge on one
of these shows.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I'll be your bailiff. I'll be your bailiff. Cut me in.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I just i'll be your agent too. I'd like a
percentage of this if it happens. Judge Judy makes like
forty million dollars a year. Nah, no, no, no, now
give me Mary Mack on the bench. I just I
like this because she says it so matter of factly.
I'm afraid to clap out. I'm gonna be honest with you,
Buck like she says we're fine, and I'm afraid to
say anything back to it, like I get it. I'm like, yes,
Mary Mack has said that I don't get any money back.
Oklahoma's taken a couple of knees and they win. Mary Mack,

(57:10):
I'd praised you and I have tried to get.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
You a TV deal. Does that help the fire? I
think you're pandering though, Fits that that's the issue. Yeah,
when I say nice things and loved and when I
say nice things, I am suddenly looking up. By the way,
my mom.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Absolutely ruled the better be fear than love thing and
it worked, Like I mean, she was boss.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
So there's there's no doubt. I think that Mary Mack
is right about some of this.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Ian only chimes in when he's trying to throw me
under the bus though, Like Ian, like you're don't don't
ever skip shoulder day at the gym because you do
a lot of heathen on this show.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Throwing me under the bus. I don't even know how
to respond to that. You know what to whoa whoa.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Friendly fire?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Now, this is a first on bucking fits.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
This is a history.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
It's fine, I.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Mary, I have gone my strategy with Mary is to
just be completely obstinate in anything that she tries to
tell me to do and that or tries to put
on me that way, whether it be finds or otherwise.
And I feel like that puts me more in her
favor than if I was doing what fits does, which

(58:22):
is clearly and obviously page.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Trying to break it down and there's no system you
can find for that. I'm trying to figure out what
my system is.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Well, it's my system, that's let's let's start that none other.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
I love the fact.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Listen, I'm the authoritarian coach. This is my system.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Bringing a diluted system, but run the play. Uh wait, wait, wait, wait, look,
this is what you haven't realized.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Like over the course, but when we were just filling
and over the summer having a good time together, it
was your system. The minute we became a full time show,
there was never a doubt that Mary Matt came in
and said, look at me, look at me. I am
the captain. Now right, she is the captain of the
fine system. Now you had the system. It was a
great system that you brought to the team. That system
has been taken from you. You no longer have any

(59:14):
control in the system now not even co op like
you are. You are here for whatever the system says
you are. Now you're sitting on my side of the bench, brother,
and it does not feel good over here, like it
was all.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Good when you were throwing the fines out.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Now all of a sudden you can equally be thrown
in the fine system and it's it's different.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
You've been of all your fines. By the way, No, no, man,
you know what I'm just telling you. By the way.
For the term show, every week, I've got I've got
a paypills.

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(01:00:05):
iHeart app. Let's bring Martin in early and see if
he can avoid any five. I don't think Martin's been
fined yet. There's still plenty of time left, get us
caught up on what's going on right now.

Speaker 11 (01:00:13):
We know I'm just here so I don't get fined.
That's my biggest reason. So let's see if I can
get through this with no flags on the play. Oregon
has just been mollywopping teams forty one to seven today
over Oregon State. Oregon State winless, a little bit of
a you know, unfair fight. The Ducks, a six ranked
team in the nation, and that rivalry game. Tennessee with

(01:00:34):
a big win over UAB Texas Tech beat Utah by
twenty four, thirty four to ten. That's a matchup between
two top twenty teams, the Red Raiders seventeenth, the Utah sixteenth.
Memphis with the last second score against Arkansas, our fourth
quarter score against Arkansas's pull away thirty two to thirty one,
and Clemson falls to one in three for the first
time since two thousand and four. Syracuse with the win

(01:00:56):
today thirty four to twenty one. Davo Sweeney was caught
emotional on the sidelines on social media. Saw a picture
of that floating around. Not looking good so far in
Clemson as a team that had a lot of expectations
at the start of the season. Another team with a
lot of expectations at the start of the season, Notre Dame,
twenty fourth th RAE team in the nation right now

(01:01:18):
only two on the year, but have the lead on
Perdue forty two to twenty three, eleven forty three left
in the third quarter. There Duke with a forty five
to thirty three lead over NC State with ninety seconds
left in the game. Georgia Tech with a thirty five
to fourteen lead over Temple with one thirty left in
the third quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Tech the eighteenth ring team in the nation.

Speaker 11 (01:01:39):
And Michigan just beat Nebraska thirty to twenty seven in
a Big ten matchup. Nebraska the falls to oh to one.
Michigan the twenty first ranked team in the nation. This
game infuriated me because how in the world do you
let that first half touchdown just happened? Sharon Moore sitting

(01:01:59):
at home, Biff Pogy now calling a time out with
twenty six seconds left.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
If you could tell I went to.

Speaker 11 (01:02:03):
Michigan Ole Miss and two lane forty five to ten.
The thirteenth rainh Rebels beat the Green Wave. That's two lanes.
First loss in the year. Old Miss is undefeated, getting
ready for Miami in Florida, Florida hopefully to bounce back
after DJ lagway through five interceptions last time out. Carson
Beck right now, some people the Heisman favorite looking like

(01:02:25):
a first round quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
We'll see if he's able to.

Speaker 11 (01:02:27):
Continue that against the Gators at hard Rock Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
You're looking to be confused, Buck Rising. Why are you
not confused?

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
I'm confused. Why Martin wants the Florida Gators to bounce back.
I have a lot of money on Miami to cover today.
Florida bounce back. Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I mean, does Smart want to defend himself? I like,
we don't believe Florida is actually going to bounce back
here right like Florida. Here's the problem with bounce back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
The principle of bounce back forgets to acknowledge the bigger
principle of maybe you just suck, like that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Thing of it. Like, I just don't. They don't.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
They're good as still, but their defenses, it really and
really really struggled with this game as far as how
to bet it. But I FITCI. They they should be
able to keep this game close. They should be able
to cover. They were also supposed to have a significantly
better player at the quarterback position than DJ Lagway has
looked so far, and Billy Napier has shot himself on

(01:03:38):
the foot in the early going as well. But I
just I don't know, I don't know if they if
they suck.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
That Okay I do, I will just I'll go I'll
go big on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Like at some point, they have one win this year,
and it's over Long Island, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
They lost to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
South Florida, and then they got beat by LSU in
a game that you know, fine, it was, that's a
rivalry game.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
It was closer than you would expect. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
We can find all of these different cute isms to
try and make this thing close. But DJ lagway has
looked terrible. And the problem is last year Florida went
on a run with billion Napier and everybody said, uh uhh, yep, nope,
we got it right, We're good. Everything has worked out
the way it's supposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
What if instead of that, you just went on a run, like,
what if instead of the principle of they figured it out,
it was while you got lucky, you played against some
bad teams, you got hot, whatever, whatever the ism is
that makes it make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
I think the body of work overall for Florida has
shown as far more than it's broken, that there's any
chance that it's fixed. And so now you've got dead
men walking coach syndrome, which is just such a weird
spot to be, and you got a quarterback that seems
to be throwing out interceptions like Oprah hands out cars
at are show like you get a pick and you
get a picking, you get a pick up. There is
absolutely zero reason for me to believe in Florida. And

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on top of all of that, for them to play,
for them to win this game, I think they have
to play a clean game. They have to stay within themselves,
and they have to be really smart like they're showing
right now a rip of a bunch of stupid penalties.
This Florida team is the less talented team, and I
don't even think it's close, which means, now, if you're
going to win, you got to play wildly clean, no mistakes,

(01:05:13):
no penalties, You got to play above your skis to
beat a Miami team that is such, I think, such
a better team that some people were wondering if this could.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Be a trap game. That's how bad it's fallow from Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Florida just Florida sucks, Like it's okay to say if
Florida just sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Yeah, I mean they're at the bottom of the standings
right now, in the sec before tonight's game kicks off,
and they're at hard Rock Stadium to do this. It
was a fun game last year for Miami, non for Florida,
and then cam Ward actually covering the Tennessee Titans here
in Nashville has been talking a lot of smack to
Chim ray DK, who was a fourth round pick out
of Florida to the Titans this year. It's been a
fun back and forth to be on the other side

(01:05:48):
of both Both teams feel like they're in a unique
spot because I don't know, Fitz, were you a Mario
Christobaul believer when he took that job, because of course
he had, you know, the coaching gaff against Pitt where
he's running the ball at the end of the game
instead of just.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Kneeling it out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
His running back fumbles the football. He looks like a fool.
They lose that game. And all the different things that
he does sometimes from the sideline that don't necessarily seem
like a plus. They are so much more overwhelmingly talented though.
I'm looking at Florida schedule at Miami home for Texas
at A and M home Mississippi State home, Georgia at
Kentucky at Ole Miss home Tennessee home Florida State to

(01:06:28):
end the season for rivalry week.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Are you sure Billionnapier's not sticking around this year?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I mean, why would Billy Napier stake justus? You don't
want to bring somebody else to get him slaughtered.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
I just don't think that there's enough games or enough
opportunities on this schedule, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
What is Texas right now?

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Texas looks as mortal as any team out there, Like
they could lose to Miami A and M Health. They
could lose to Mississippi State certainly, but Georgia, or rather
at Kentucky. Kentucky is dead in the water. I mean,
you want to talk about dead men walking? Mark Stoops
just feels like borrowed time basically since he tried to
jump ship for that A and M job a couple

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of years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
I don't know that it's enough to get Billy and
maybe you're fired.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Kentucky is the only game left on their schedule that
I think Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Will not have them as an underdog kid.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, I don't know that we're going to see Florida
win another football game this year. That's what's gonna get
Billionnapier fired. It's a when we knew this coming into
the year. That's why I hated dead men Walking. Like
I think you do when you're making the decision if
you're going to keep a coach or fire a coach,
part of what you have to do is look at
your schedule the next year and ask yourself, what am
I really gonna see that changes my mind about this?

(01:07:42):
Like if you're in a toxic relationship and you're on
the verge of getting out of that relationship. You really
got to ask yourself, like, am I just buying time?
Because sometimes I think that's what a coach is, right.
Sometimes when you're in a spot where your coach, you're like, well,
I don't want to make change for just the sake
of change. But you also know that the minute the
cycle repeats itself, you're gonna be like, here we go again. Right,
that's where we are with Florida. So Florida fans were

(01:08:04):
already somewhat out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I think they're gonna get creamed by Amy, and they're
gonna get cream by Texas and then Texas saying Mississippi
State's undefeated right now. I don't know that the Mississippi
State's great football team, but they're gonna lose that game.
Then they're gonna get creamed by Georgia when they spend
the next month before the next five games getting beat
by multiple touchdowns. Florida the fan base just doesn't expect that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Florida fan base thinks that they are in national championship
contender and they aren't right now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
So what do you do with that? I mean, the
only reason.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I wouldn't fire Billy Napier after a few more of
these games when it's just obvious.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
That everything's done.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Is because I don't want to bring somebody else into
just have them get murdered on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
But that's not a great reason to get through the season.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
It's just this was all if you take your fan
hat off and you take your loyalty out of it,
which is so difficult to do, and you just look
at the logic of it and ask yourself, if we
were playing the college football video game of this, Okay,
if we're coming into this year and you're and you
and I are equal skill college football video game players,
would we have expected Florida in the video game version

(01:09:05):
to beat in LSU, Miami, Texas, Texas A and m Georgia, Ole,
Miss Tennessee and Florida State.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Maybe Florida said we didn't see Florida State coming. That's
seven losses.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
If you just came into the year and said, all right,
everything's everything's like neutral everything seven losses right right now?
On a neutral field, Vandy would be favored over Florida.
That's fact. Vandy would be favored over Florida. So like,
the hell do you do with that? If you're a
Florida fan.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Well, I think you have to take into account the
job that Vanderbilt is doing outside of whatever is going
on with Florida right now. But like, why is the
Texas in the same situation. I mean, I'm not the
Steve Sarkis is not gonna get fired with Texas goes
under this year. But Texas is kind of a different
version of this. Their quarterback stinks and they're fitsy if
they if they would acknowledge the injury thing or not

(01:09:54):
so publicly bat it down at every turn with arch Manning.
They're about to kick off here against sam Houston State
at seven o'clock on ESPN Plus, and we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
What they look like then.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
But like the arch Manning stuff, he's just missing layups.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
He looks bad out there.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Sarkeasian, and they have a good team, They have a
skilled play caller. They can't make up for the fact
that their quarterback is kind of dead weight, and they
have an excellent defense. They're kind of a different version
of this Jekyll and Hyde situation that Florida's in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Well, and that's why I refuse to ever say is
Texas back again?

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I think the worst college football ever I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Never gonna say it is Texas back. You know, when
we'll be able to say that when Texas actually does
whatever Texas fans want, Like, I would argue that last year,
being as good as they weren't going to the playoffs
would be an indication that they're back. What defines back
being nationally relevant and being a national championship contender, then
Texas was back last year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
But man, do we feel like Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
You're right if we're looking today at the biggest disappointments
in college football season of this season so far, Let's
be very clear, Steve's arkisyan in Texas should be sending
flowers to Clemson.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
If it weren't for.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
The abject, just total disaster of Clemson just falling off
the face of the earth, we'd spend a lot more
time talking about like the most over hyped storylines of
the entire summer. And I wish we could learn from
this and not do this again most overhyped.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
We will the Clemson and Clayton k club.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Nick is on that list, Texas in general is on
that list, and Arch Manning is the king of all
that list.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
In fact, I was literally.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Doing our draft broadcast for Yahoo Sports in April, and
one of the conversations was, well, when they look at
this year's draft class, you know this covering cam Ward right, Like, well,
nobody wants to reach a quarterback this year because next
year's class looks much better? Does it? How do those
takes look now? Because next year's draft class looks like garbage?
And if like am I do you Saints fans? If

(01:11:51):
you're gonna win one game all year and it gets
you Carson Beck, you feel good about that? Like, that's
not the way we were talking about this class a
few months ago. Gets you, Garrett Nusmeyer. Maybe may get
prove something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Throughout the course of the year, but this was supposed
to be the year that if you were picking top ten,
there were going to be four or five quarterbacks that
come out and save your franchise.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Hell no, why are we so quick to do that? Why? Like,
why are we so?

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
I know there's a societal issue at large there where
you just want to be first as opposed to being
right in certain circumstances, But that seems like a pitfall
that sports media and I, you know, I don't exclude
us entirely from those conversations. It seems like a pitfall
that we fall into as a as an industry more
often than not, where we're so ready to declare the

(01:12:34):
next year's quarterback class to be superior to the quarterback
class that we're currently talking about, because is it just
the idea of the unknown and all these different things.
Where Spencer Ratler was a consensus number one overall pick
heading into that college football season, then agains benched at Oklahoma,
then he's barely a what is he a fifth round
but he's definitely a Day three pick for the New

(01:12:54):
Orleans Saints a couple of years ago out of South Carolina.
It's just one of those things where I like, I've
done it enough to where I'm now at the point
where I'm just like, I don't want to hear any
preseason conversation around these quarterbacks or what kind of draft
prospects they'll be until we get a month into the
college football season. We can actually have conversations about things
that they've done on the field before they get ready

(01:13:14):
to declare, Like, I don't know why that's still a
thing that we do year in year out at such
a high volume, and like, I mean, you know, the
arts thing is taking this thing and turned it up
to ten right where you've got fine bomb on national
television talking about he's the greatest thing since Tebow, respectfully, Paul,
I mean, and Paul's had to eat a lot of
crow on all of this here in the last couple
of last couple of weeks. It's just it's why, why

(01:13:37):
even why even do that? Why do that to Arts Manning?
I think that's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
That's the biggest part of it. It's I don't It's
not Art's fault that we overblew his potential. It's success.
I think it's a modern version of the telephone game.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Not a lot of people actually watch high school football,
so when the rating numbers come out and we see
things that we all buy into what four or five
people say, and it gets.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Blown up and blown up and blown up and blown up,
and it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
I'm threatening people. That's what I'm doing, you know, like
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Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
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Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
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Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
It's time for would you rather? Did we get it? Yeah?
I got it?

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:15:10):
All right, let's jump in Fellas another another raving addition
of would you rather, so I got ten here for
you guys. I don't think we're gonna get to ten,
but let's go ahead and spin the wheel.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
I missed the wheel.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
I wonder how many involved feet? All right?

Speaker 12 (01:15:28):
Would you rather always find exactly the parking spot that
you want or always have the perfect comeback when someone insult.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
To Oh, I I feel like I are What if
I already have one of these skills?

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Yeah, I mean I already have the perfect comeback. I
want the parking spot I'm in. Both of us said
the same thing.

Speaker 12 (01:15:47):
With it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
There's a glaring lack of self awareness on this show.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
No, we call that porn star parking.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
I will take porn Star parking every time it is
the directly closest to the door. I want it every time.
I like to say it every time I get it.
I got it this morning at the farmer's market on
my way to get my coffee.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
Give me the porn porn.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Starpar fact that you go to the farmers market to
get your like, just hear the sentence we just got.
I want porn Star parking so I can get my
coffee at the farmers market.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
What are we doing? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
You know, here's the thing I now want the first
I don't know, fifty spots in every single parking lot
to be mark handicapped. Just a buck can never get
the parking spot he wants.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
So rude you think I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Park in a handicam spot to go get.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
My that's fair. Okay, that's the fines. Mary Mack is
just throwing the fine out. Yeah that's because I'm a
coffee girl. Like I don't mind it, but fine, no, no, no,
I just loved like the concept of the park. Okay, Look,
I want the parking spot. I always want the parking spot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
There's nothing better than pulling in somewhere and realizing that
you got the parking spot before somebody, particularly if the
person that's right behind you or right in front of
you thought that they were going to get it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
There's a to read that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
And now you can say porn star parking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Okay, porn star parking. There we go. Give us the
next question quickly, but please God save this. Okay.

Speaker 12 (01:17:14):
Would you rather have your phone battery always start at
twenty percent and not be able to go higher or
your WiFi always just strong enough to almost stream smoothly?

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Okay, No, there is nothing the Wi Fi demons. I
have dealt with some Wi Fi issues that no human
beings should ever deal with. And why is it whenever
I'm watching the Raiders play, if there's a Wi Fi issue,
it's always winning the balls in the air like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
A bomb in the air and all of a sudden freezing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Look, I don't need to talk to anybody in the
world enough to have my phone reach more than twenty percent.
I don't care y'all can't reach me, That's fine. I
need to be able to watch the Raiders game, so
I need streaming to be perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
No matter what, Buck, No, I need my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
I'm gonna have an iPhone sized tumor in in the
back of my head by the time I'm done for
as much screen time as I spent on the thing.
But it's you know, it's at of necessity. I lose
my mind if I can't get the information up to
the minute. How the hell else am I supposed to
know that Deve andrei Sweat is going on injured Reserve today.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
I have to know. I have to be able to tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Has his phone yet can't tweet me or text me
back quickly? All right, Dan, what do you got next.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
I want it known that you didn't participate in the
show prep today, but I did.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
That's fair, that's good text.

Speaker 12 (01:18:24):
What a time to just out him for that, just
as the wheelless spinning. You did, Yeah, you did, you
absolutely did.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
I used the wheel of my advantage.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
It's a weapon, all right.

Speaker 12 (01:18:34):
Would you rather have an elevator that only plays heavy
metal music for a car that insists on narrating or
driving like a golf commentator?

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Oh that sounds delightful. Give me the car. Can I
pick which commentator? Can I have Jim Nance guiding me
to and fro? Yeah on my golfcursion.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Let's call it a Jim Nance commentator car.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
I am at the spot in my life where if
somebody in the car wants to comment on my driving,
I will gladly pull over, hand him the keys and
say you to the rains. I have no interest in
backseat like. If you are in my car, sit down,
shut up, and enjoy the ride. He's buck rising. I'm
Jason Fitz. We've been hanging out with you. We will
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Have a great weekend.