Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam Discuss Saints Drama and the Sexiest Teams in the NFL

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I don't even feel like wasting any time. Right out
of the gate, he from, have you ever had employees?
And I know you got kids? Have you ever had employees?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Also?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
You ever had employees like you?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I had employees.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm like, you've been in charge. You've been in charge
of some people.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Right, I'm a businessman.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Of course you're not a businessman. You a business man. Okay,
So you ever had more than one person causing problems
at once?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Uh? Yeah, of course?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, what happens when you got two people causing problems,
but one of them is causing big problems and then
the other ones just causing like medium problems.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Big problems gotta go there, you go.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Big problems comes first, right and and so uh sometimes
I think medium sized problems get swept under the rug
because there's bigger problems and there are more pressing issues.
And here is what I am getting at as we
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should be Mark Withherdeve from Salab Week nine, National Football League.
We had a game just end and another one getting
started here in about fifteen minutes or so. That Ramseyhawks
game was eight hours. It's finally over. The Rams have
won this thing in overtime. More on all of that,
We're going to dive into all the games. Here's what

(01:39):
I'm getting at. I think Trevor Lawrence has been a
medium sized problem all year long, and no one's paying
attention because of Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson is the quote
worst contract in the NFL, and now he tore his
achilles and so all of that gets to the side

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for a second, and for me from now to the forefront.
Now we have a second to dive in to a
man who just got two hundred and seventy five million
dollars like he just got it fifty five million dollars
a year until the deck contract, he was tied for

(02:21):
the richest contract in the sport. And he is only
a medium sized problem because he's not awful. He's not awful,
but he's not very good either, and he makes very
very odd decisions in big moments. His football team is
two and seven we have a minimum a medium sized problem.

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If you're the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It's it's a giant problem. It's a giant problem because
you had Urban Myers Inn and you realize, okay, yea,
well this that's even a bigger problem.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Of course, So let's.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Bring somebody in who has a little pedigree. You brought
Doug Peterson in and it looked like things were going
on the upswing and Trevor Lawrence was finally going to
reach that level of of potential that we thought he

(03:25):
was going to be coming out of uh coming out
of college, and I guess what warranted the contract extension.
But this is this is one of those cases of
not everybody's gonna be great. How not every first round court,

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not a very every first round pick, first picking the
draft quarterback is going to be spectacular. Now they kind
of put like a buffer in the way the rookie,
especially for quarterbacks. But first round draft picks, you know,
you got five years to really figure and see if

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this is the guy moving forward. But any other position
is clear cut.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean, it's except funny you want to say that.
It's funny you say that because of the current situations
of Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson. But I take your
point at face value.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, yes, because normally, let's just say, right now, Bryce
and Richardson are awful this year, and they're awful next year,
some coaches get fired or whatever, and then in their
fourth year, Bryce wins ten games and has really decent

(04:57):
numbers and only throws like five picks maybe twenty six touchdowns.
He now he's up for a contract extension. Quarterbacks will
be making sixty plus million dollars a year. Uh huh,
So you'll feel like, oh, he's figured it out, and

(05:21):
you'll drop sixty million dollars a year on Bryce or
on Anthony Richardson based on one year of not being
completely awful and not taking into account you had a
really great running back in your defense was top five

(05:45):
He looked the part for that one year, and you feel,
because the market is the way it is for quarterbacks,
you gotta do this, do it, and you and your
organization and your team suffers for the next four years.

(06:06):
That's the state of where we are with quarterbacks, especially
first round quarterbacks, in these contracts.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, I mean, it's I don't want to call it
the age old debate because you're right, it hasn't been
around that long, but it is. It is a real pickle.
And I'll give you an example to me, the Las
Vegas Raiders right now are a wonderful example of what
you're talking about, which is you're allowed to look at
your C plus B minus type quarterback and go, well,

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we can kind of we can function with this guy.
We could win games, we could have a good year,
we could have a bad year, but we can be
one of those like you sort of said, like a
ten and seven, nine to eighteen. We can make the
playoffs sometimes if he stays healthy. And I think the
average American sports fans like, no, go for it, go
for greatness. All right, let's go for greatness. We're gonna

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trade Derek Carr to the Saints because he's he's a
B minus, he's a C plus. He's an NFL quarterback,
but he's not a super Bowl NFL quarterback. He's not
on that kind of a track. So let's be great,
Let's go for it. How are we doing since then?
So I get it? You really really do you end

(07:24):
up in a quarterback pickle? And I mean we could
have the exact same conversation about Dak Prescott. It's the
highest paid player in the NFL. Like, you got to
be kidding me if you landed from Mars and said,
your show me your highest paid player in this wonderful
league and we're like, here, what, that's not the guy.

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He not even one of the top ten guys, let
alone the guy. So maybe this is too much of
a catch all. But what would you suggest to a
general manager who's sitting there with a bus quarterback going,
we can continue to compete every year, but it's gonna
cost us way too much money. Or should we move

(08:09):
on and continually look for a guy and in that
process we might really suck for a while.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Na I can't do that. I can't do that because
just think about it. If you use that money and
you build a really dynamic team, and I'm talking about
offensive line, let's start there. Offensively, We're going to, unlike
what most people think, get a dynamic running back that

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can be a game changer, which they are out there right,
and we're going to bolster up our back end of
our defense and get an edge rusher. I'm going to
put that sixty million dollars a year into those positions
and I'm going to go get me a young quarterback.
Are a quarterback that has been thrown away and disc

(09:01):
and dismembered. Sam Donald, Sam Donald, example Mayfield, Baker Mayfield,
Baker Mayfield. That would be my formula.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I mean, Jared Goff, Jared Goff pushed aside to me.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
That to me, that looked Geno Smith.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well, no, no, no, he not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Well he doesn't have any receivers, like I mean, no,
I'm not. I'm saying his guy, right, his guy, and
that defense isn't what it used to be.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
No, right, that's true.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Like, So what I'm saying is, I'm going to take
sixty million dollars and I'm going to build a roster
that can handle a quarterback who isn't top tier because
not even the top tier quarterbacks. How many? How many

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quarterbacks in the National Football League are top tier? Lest
count them out? Let's me I'll define it with the
names I'm going to give you. Okay, Patrick Mahomes, sure, uh,
Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm gonna say, say Lamar right now, No.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
No, no, no, no, no, absolutely phenomenal. Lamar Jackson, Sure, Josh
Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Josh Allen Okay, are you gonna go Burrow?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
No, No, I'm not gonna go Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You're not, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I think Joe Burrow is the second tier of quarterback,
which is beyond serviceable. It is a quality quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
How many top tier was that it?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I just named three?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Okay, but are those the Are those the only ones? Now?
I'm curious? Is not the whole list?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And my opinion based on if I took any of
those players and put them on any team in the league,
no matter what your roster is, they could get you
to a wildcard playoff game.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Let let let me, let me give you three other names,
just because I want it. They're all young, but I
want to let's do it. Okay. Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Almost not yet, it's been half a season. Jordan Love
No not yet, Rock Party almost not yet. Seriously, I'm sad.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Almost Hey what about this one? This is the wildcard
and we'll talk about him later. But justin Herbert No, okay, no,
all right, that's that's fair. I mean, if you're not
gonna put Joe Burrow on the list, then yeah, you
have a very exclusive list.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, because you have to be exclusive to be I
can't have seven guys in the top tier quarterback because
it's not that. If you put Lamar Jackson on on
on the Carolina Panthers, they're going to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, Lamar is if you believe it, I like, I
don't know if I've ever had more fun watching a
player that does not play for a team I'm rooting
for unbelievable than I am right now with Lamar Jackson's unbelievable.
It might be one of the most fun players to
watch in the history of this league.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
If you put, as we all know, Patrick Mahomes on
any team in the league, they're going to the playoffs.
If you put Josh Allen on any team in the league,
I believe they can make the playoffs. Those are the
only three quarterbacks that I believe that you can do

(12:43):
that with, So in my opinion, that puts them in
a class all their own. Okay, now, there's some very
good quarterbacks who you can put on that list. If
they had this and this are that, right, they can
they can make it happen for you. You put Jayden Daniels
on Carolina, he number one would probably be hurt.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Right, Well, like, let's give it another year or two.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, But what I'm saying is, in terms of their
roster right now.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I think he might be. He might be this league's
next Lamar.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I believe he would be.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
But yeah, we're nine games in.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
But what they did was they like we said I
said at the beginning of the season, they did things
that they knew they had to do to give this
young man a chance.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
And it started with the ownership, the coach. All of
these things matter. The only thing I think only three players.
I think it doesn't matter for or the three in
that top tier. Okay, their competitive nature and their skill
set can get you to a player a wild card.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
All right, there's a perfect lead into where we'd love
to go next, which is, well, that's the best team
in the NFC, and that right there is the best
team in the AFC. And then apologies to the team
that is not going to get mentioned. We'll explain all
of that coming up next. Here we go week nine
into the evening, and our watch party starts in about
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Mark Willardy from Salam We can do this a little
bit later, maybe around six o'clock or so, six Pacific,
that is. Did you see the whole Chris o'lave, Michael Thomas,
Derek Carr, social media soiree. Have you seen all this today?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Okay, I'll take you through it. Check it out in
the meantime if you want. It's a doozy, it's a doozy.
Michael Thomas feels like he's maybe one fit one foot

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into Antonio Brownville. Maybe that's too strong, but anyway, we'll
get to it. I think the Lions are the class
of the NFC, and I think the Ravens are the
class of the AFC. And I feel like an idiot
for saying that because there's a team that's won three

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of the last four Super Bowls in they're seven and now,
so what's wrong with me?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Well, you have eyes, okay, And sexy is sexy, right,
Sexy is sexy. Sexy makes you feel a certain way
when you see it. Safe doesn't the fact that Detroit
can score in bunches like they can, and they can

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still play the type of defense they can play even
after losing their best art would be their best defensive player.
It's sexy, Amana Saint Brown scoring headstanding all of that.
It looks good man, You're excited to watch it with
Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. That's sexy. I mean you,

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that's must see TV, even if you hate the Ravens.
You like, I gotta see what's going on Derrick Henry
lamar Za Flowers. That is sexy, Like woof going to
see that? Kansas City?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Safe? Safe man?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
We all?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, I know I know that, good man. I know
you're gonna catch the Chief game. You know what, man,
you know what I catch the highlights? Uh huh right, Well,
you put this type of music on when Baltimore playing
Detroit playing you don't know what you're gonna see, and

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that's the whole thing. D Even Dan Campbell adds to that,
the mystery.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Uh, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
You don't know what you're going to see is.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Over there, Like I might bite the kneecap and I
might go forward on fourth and ten in the first quarter.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I might bite your knee cap or I might catch
your knee cap. You never know, but that's sexy, and
so no, I don't I don't think you're crazy for
leaving out Kansas City in that assessment, because you're right.
First of all, Kansas City is never gonna cover the
this bread, so they'll never be as good as the

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world thinks they are Vegas thinks they are. And it's pedestrian.
It's no three hundred yard passing, is no long plays.
It's just safe, winning, safe football. And sometimes you want
a little spice, you want. We just had a sexy

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World Series, right the first six batters on both teams combined.
You don't get much sexier than that in baseball because
anything could happen.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'll tell you what Lamar Jackson sounds like. This is
Lamar Jackson without words. Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:57):
All right, that's Lamar Jackson right there, boyar.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nail that I got one better hold on, hold on,
go ahead, what do you got if this comes in?
Listen you hear that.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
That could be interpreted as a couple of different things.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
But that is just that is just a sprite. Okay,
that's a refreshed.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Right, Yeah, yeah, sure you're right.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Welcome everybody, uh to the late late late night of
Fox Football Sundays. My man Mark the Magic Willard and
me he from the Love Doctor Salam with all the
sexy takes all the greatest place. So sit back, relax

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and just crack open, yeah and get ready.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
All right, could get out of here, man, if you
if you had that set up. And then Mahomes came
out and he's like, I'm like, oh.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
My god, like what's happening?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Like what that hell? Away?

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Everybody? Someone left their parking lights on outside, Like come on.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
All right, but but all you do is win, win.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Win, no matter what. And and and look what I
I get it. I respect them, but in terms of
watchable and look, you can't see the Chiefs fans don't
come up my neck. I get it. I would much
rather have an undefeated team than the sexiest team in
the world, because sexy don't always get you to the end.

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Safe and comfortable most likely will get you to the end.
That yep, and defense, okay, and it's a defense. And
because they have it, right, they have it.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
They have it, and the Ravens don't. So like I like,
I'm gonna sit here and admit right now, I'm probably wrong.
You're you're right. We were absolutely getting wound by sexy
because Lamar Jackson is the best thing on TV this fall.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
And you know what the best thing on radio is
this fall. I did every fall and everything. And you
want to talk about the the epictone of sexy, the
boat load of sexy, and that is mister one stephen.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
S.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
There's got to be another adjective out there. We've got
a Sunday night game underway at Minnesota. It is Viking
scoreless early against the Colds. Cold had the ball first
fumbled on the first drive. By the way, the Vikings
tight end TJ. Hawkinson, making his season debut tonight after
last year's knee injuries plural. As for the latest of

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the late afternoon games, the Rams with a comeback win
in overtime at Seattle twenty six to twenty. The Rams
were down thirteen to three at the half after Gino
Smith had two touchdown passes in the last minute of
the first half. Eventually the game winning toss Matthew Stafford
to DeMarcus Robinson with about five minutes left in the overtime.
A thirty nine yarder air different distance of about fifty

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yards and the receiver had less than a yard of
separation downfield, and that's how the Rams win on the road.
Wide receiver Pukinnakua was active despite the bad knee, didn't
last a half. He was kicked out when he threw
a punch. Arizona was up on Chicago twenty one to
nine at the half twenty nine to nine.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
The final.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Cardinals in the first half had three touchdown runs while
the Bears had three field goals. Detroit won at sixth
straight game in the rain at Green Bay. The final
was twenty four to fourteen. Lions led seven to three
late in the first half as Jared Goff started eleven
of eleven passing. The Lions are the top scoring team
in the NFL, held under their average, which is over
thirty points a game. Philadelphia eventually won at home over

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Jacksonville twenty eight to twenty three. Eagles have won four straight.
The Jags, on their first seven drives today, had one
first down and still came close to winning this thing
at the end. Among the earlier games, Carolina sent New
Orleans to a seventh straight loss twenty three to twenty
two on a touchdown which just over two minutes to go.
Tennessee in overtime edge New England twenty to seventeen. New

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England two and seven. Chargers won at Cleveland twenty seven
to ten. Cleveland two and seven. Cincinnati sent the Raiders
to a fifth straight loss forty one twenty four. Joe
Burrow five touchdown passes Raiders two and seven.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Buffalo seven and two.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
They won on a sixty one yard field goal with
five seconds left, edging Miami thirty to twenty seven. Josh
Allen three touchdown passes in the second half. Baltimore, the
number one offense in the league, beat up Denver forty
one to ten, and the Broncos were only allowing fifteen
points a game coming into today. Lamar Jackson with three
touchdown passes. Washington is seven and two after winning at

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the Giants twenty seven to twenty two. Terry McLaurin had
two catches, both were touchdowns in the first half. Atlanta
beat Dallas twenty seven twenty one, Kirk Cousins three touchdown passes.
Dallas's record each of the previous three seasons was twelve
and five. They are three and five right now this season.

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NASCAR win for Ryan Blaney, so he goes to next
Sunday's Championship four race at Phoenix. He won at Martinsville today.
Among the NHL games, Hurricanes beat the Washington Capitals four
to two, and just three NBA games. Pistons, who were
one in five, got a victory at Brooklyn today one
oh six to ninety two. Currently, the Hawks lead mid
third quarter at New Orleans seventy five sixty nine despite

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twenty three points from Brandon Ingram. Dallas Mavericks up fifty
five twenty eight on Orlando late in the second quarter
of play, Luca don said, you're already twenty two points
in the first. Again the Sunday night NFL games at
Minnesota Vikings with the ball only about five minutes in
scoreless against the Colts, back to.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
You Okay, yep, you were right. That was some sexy
radio right there. I don't know if everybody felt that,
but that's what that was. And indeed, we are watching
Colts and Vikings, and the Colts were moving the ball,
but then they fumbled little exchange from Joe Flacco to
Jonathan Taylor, so the Vikings now have the ball in

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Colts territory. We will keep you up to date because
that is what we do. And we're in the tyraq
dot com studios. And Steve said, the number one thing
that I wanted to get to before we were done
with the Lions. Also, it's not just like all that
stuff you mentioned. Golf, his completion percentages through the roof
Ross Saint Brown. They can play defense, they lost their

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best player. They can run the ball, they can throw
the ball, They can this, they can that be they can.
There was one thing left that I traditionally don't think
Detroit can do, and that is, for example, go to
lambeau Field in the rain over the holidays. They can.
Now it was not just outdoors, It was not just

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lambeau Field. It was raining the entire time. And the
Lions entire schedule this year almost is exclusively indoors. I
mean even a lot of their their road games are
indoors this year. So I want to pull this up
because I want to count how many times the Lions
will play outside, because obviously you've got half your games

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at home. They already played at Arizona this year. I
do not know if the roof was open or close,
but at the same time, it's Arizona. Yeah, it's Aria.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So even today when the weather it was raining and healing,
they shut the roof, okay, okay, And if they.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Did play that one inside, then you know what, Today
was the first. That was their first game outside all year.
First one and their next couple of road games Houston, Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
They won't be on.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
The road again until they go to Chicago when there's
three shopping days left before Christmas, yep, and then they've
got to go to San Francisco the following Monday night.
Those are their three outdoor games all year. That's a
huge test to pass, and I think they did that today.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, Because Number one, it's just difficult to play in
Green Bay, and when at least they got it early,
it was just water right because goof I've been there
in early January, last game of the season. That's not
what you want, you know, that's not what you want
in your life. It is miserable. But watching them play

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in the inclement weather, and look, they came out with
a plan. They were gonna run the ball early and often.
They were not going to get behind the sticks and
let the elements dictate what they were going to do.
They were gonna come out put the own. They have
the best offensive line in football. They were gonna put

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the on this on the offensive line, I can almost
promise you. I know for a fact that Dan Campbell
made it a point to let those guys up front
know the entire week, this is your game. We're going
as far. The weather's gonna be crappy, so our first
fifteen is going to look like this. And as an

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offensive lineman, when you hear that, as Sam Donald just
through an interception in the red tone, right, give away, giveaway.
But when you hear that, you practice with a purpose.
You practice with yo. You get together with those five
guys and sometimes six, they say, look, man, let's make

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this a thing. Because I would much rather pass blocked,
run blocked than pass blocked. Especially to start the game.
I'd love to come out and set the tempo, and
they did that and it was a concentrated effort. It
was third and six they gave. They handed the ball
off like, that's what I like. And now they have that.

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They have that pedigree now to where no matter what
happens in the playoffs, if they got to go somewhere
and be on the road and the weather isn't what
it is inside, then they can do it. They believe
in it. They have the game plan. So shout out
to to you know, to Dan Campbell and and to
that whole staff for having them ready to go out

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there and play and not let the weather be the reason.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I like that. You're talking about if they have to
go on the road in the playoffs, But right now
it doesn't look like they're going to have to go
on r I mean, because not only are you seven
and one, top record in the conference, you now have
a bird in hand on both the Vikings and the
Packers and the Bears. As wonderful of a story as
they are, they're not going.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
To get there.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
They're they're a year away, you know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
And the coach away, they are a coach away.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Let's let's comment well, I like what you're saying, because
let's be real, when it comes down to teams like that,
and this is why I think they punished that that
dB the way they did this week. You can get
to the end of a season, and obviously one win
turned into a loss can change you from a playoff

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team to a team that's going home. And and the
Bears had the Commander's beat last week, and and and
they let it slip away. And you follow that up
with with kind of a hangover performance today in Arizona,
and now you're four and four and you're on your
way to I think they're clearly on their way to
fourth place in the division, even though I'd like what

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they're doing there.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah. Look, look they have the building box. They've put
some things in place that they can build on. Like
Caleb Williams isn't just out there on his own on
an island, right. You can see the things that they've done.
But coaching man leadership is paramount for success for young players,

(31:29):
especially young quarterbacks. If you're not buttoned up, then it's
hard for that guy to be buttoned up. If you're
not making sound decisions, if you don't have a full
grasp of trust in that locker room, like, yeah, you

(31:55):
know that play last week, the way that ended some
of the calls in that game, like handing the ball
off to an offensive backup offensive guard on the goal line.

(32:15):
Remember that, yep? Like to me, and then to double
down and say, we practiced that play hundreds of times?
Why why have you practiced that play so much? It's
things like that that make you go, huh, what's going

(32:37):
on over there? Huh? Sums up? Yeah, So it's cool
to be cute and come up with a trick play
and then you're not there yet. Kansas City can throw
between the leg passes and no looks and they have
hardware and the guy doing it is the best on

(32:58):
the planet Earth. You are not there. Why on Earth?
If I'm the running, If I'm I'm like, are y'all
kidding me? We're gonna get all the way down here?
Y'all gonna give it to the guard. And look, I
love when big men, when offensive line get a chance

(33:20):
to shine to do it. Hey, brother, we're not about
to do all of that now. We're trying to build
on something. They shouldn't even never even been in that
situation to give up a hell Mary, so things like
and then the press conference after it, and it's just
I'm like, let me scratch my head. Here a couple
more of those we saw what urban my remember? He

(33:41):
started making some weird decisions, starting with bringing Tim Tebow in,
then talking about Travis atn is gonna be a scat
back with slot receiver. We was like, whoa, wait a minute,
and then grinding at the club like hold on.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Man, hold hold on, hold up.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
All of all of those things start just stacking on
top of each other yep, and they were like, oh,
we got it. We can't do this. So what I'm
saying is, was it Matt ever everflews right? Bat lock in? Man?
You cannot have a couple more of those. You cannot

(34:23):
have a couple more of those. You really got to
lock in and and and get a hold of this
thing because you guys are still in position to do
something great for that franchise.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Mark Wheeler to eat from Salamon coming up next.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
I would have bet everything I had that we weren't
going to talk about this game tonight, but as it
turns out, well we need to talk about this game
a little bit, and so we'll do that coming.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Up next on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
All right, this is live inthetiereg dot com studios.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Still back on up, Give it a microphone first so
I can bust like a bubble.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, feeling this was gonna be in. I like I
heard this.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm like, here, we got no geez going crazy death, Bro,
It's okay, let's go, let's get it.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
T J. Hokinson's got a couple of catches. Good to
see him back out there.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, man, yeah, I was always when when Detroit got ready,
I was like, oh no, why was it? And then
the porter came in and we were like, oh okay, cool,
I got it.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, although still weird to me. They traded him within
the division.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, that's that was crazy because he was such a
huge part of of their offense for years, like Mark Andrews.
Like if they trade Mark Andrews to like the Bengals,
it's like, wait, what right? But why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
The Patriots played the Titans today? Who did what the
the New England Patriots?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Do you still have a team?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
They played the the Tennessee Titans in a football game.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
These these teams don't ring a bell.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
They went out there and they ran around and they
did the darn thing. And I was thinking to myself,
you know, my Manny from and I have a radio
show later tonight, and I'm thinking I can skip that one.

(36:34):
But then something happened in the game that inspired me
to at least have a brief conversation with my guy. So, uh,
Draft Mayo is the brand spankin new head coach of
the New England Patriots. And so when you're brand new,
that's that's fine. And I also, you know, I don't
want to pretend I know all the little intricacies of

(36:57):
what's going on on that sideline in each given moment.
But I was shocked e from first of all, did
you see the highlight of the final play of regulation
where Drake may held the ball and held the ball
and then he went left, and then he went right,
and he went back left and then he's just like,

(37:17):
oh my gosh, I'm going to get tackled and he
went and poof that it was Fromondre Stevenson in the
end zone for a touchdown. Now, I'll give him this
because I do believe that that football game, and let
me check and make sure, yes confirmed that football game
is not in New England. That was. That was a

(37:40):
road game where these New England Patriots, it was a
road game. But when I've got a team like that,
I've got a young team. We know we're not going
anywhere this year. I've already got my quarterback of the future.
At least we're in the period of time where that's
what we're thinking we've got. And actually the early early

(38:03):
returns on Drake may have not been have not been bad.
When you score that touchdown, my guy, you go for two.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
So there's a rule.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay, hit me. The rule is.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
When you're on the road, you go for two. You
go for the win. When you're at home, you go
for the tie because you have the advantage, you have
the crowd. But when you're on the road, you want
like in basketball, right, you're down by two, you're on

(38:42):
the road, regular season game, you go for the win. Yes,
that's it. Well, especially ahead if you have a rookie quarterback.
So now you're going to oh, now you have to

(39:03):
drive down the field and get back into scoring position
on the road, and you've never done it before in
the NFL, right now, that seems like a good idea with.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
A two and six football team that's going absolutely nowhere.
Why on earth would you be like, I'm gonna play
it safe. Like in other words, there's no discussion for
Mayo about his job. He just started.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
He just started.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
This is a free and easy shot at a win,
and it didn't take it.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Hey man, I know, I know. Way to bring the
show down talking about this game. Way to go first out, All.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Right, we're done, We're done. We got to talk about
this Michael Thomas thing coming up next. I don't get
you going. That's next sports radio radio. I do believe
we've got a fumble rumble in the Sunday night football game.
Sack fumble on Sam Darnold returned all the way. It

(40:10):
has been confirmed the flag on the field will not
affect it, and the Colts strike first as the extra
point is Yeah, man, seven to nothing, seven nothing Colts
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this right here, this is crazy. This is absolutely crazy

(40:53):
freaking wide receivers. Man. I'm sorry, I don't like to
generalize like that, but freaking wide receivers. Man, So how
does this grab you? First of all? I want to
I want to take it through to get your response
at every stage. Did you see the play on which
Chris Olave was hurt today?

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Do you blame Derek Carr? That's like when I when
I let me, let me phrase it a different way,
because that that sucks. That's a that's a crappy way
to sort of think about it. Was that an unfortunate pass? Uh,

(41:38):
delivered in such a way that put the receiver in
some danger?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yes, okay, okay, if you were Chris, how would you
handle that?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
How would I handle it?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yes? Uh? I mean Chris Chris. Chris says he's okay,
I mean been released from the hospital, tweeted out, I'm
gonna be all right? Is there does a conversation need
to happen there? Do we like? Is there some frustration
you got to get out? What happens next? If you're Chris?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
No, I would no. Man, you are a professional wide receiver.
In the NFL, there is no there's no rant or like,
I don't know what you would. You know, he threw

(42:38):
a pass, put it high so he can jump up
to not take the hit on the ground he got hit.
It's literally part of the game. Okay, period, it's part
of the game.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Now, what if you were an ex teammate of both
of these players and you play the same position as
Chris o'labe, is that appropriate to go on a round?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
You could do anything. Are you in the league.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Still not at the moment, but you're trying.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
To be Oh well, then you're not trying to be.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Okay, see, And that's kind of what I'm getting at.
And this is what's near and dear to my heart
and I think all human beings, which is that when
you're stuck in a spot, do things to help you
get out of it. I can't tell you how many
people I watch where you're stuck in a spot and
they double down, and you triple down and you're quadrupled down,

(43:42):
and it just gets worse and worse and worse, and
you want to just shake the person and go when
are you gonna wake up? So, Michael Thomas, if you
want to be back in the league. Well you are
now one foot in Antonio Brownsville and you're not getting
back in the league. And I had no idea. What
the hell happened to Michael Thomas.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Man, he was fantastic, It was great.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Damn him and Drew Brees were unstoppable. What happened to dude, man?
Because now he has become apparently a Saints YouTuber or something.
Michael Thomas, This dude used right, he was winning your

(44:33):
fantasy league for you, like a four four years ago.
So my man hits Twitter and writes, dude, scary and
panic and just throw the ball. Get him the f
out of here. He is so ass and I'm just

(44:54):
getting started. So here come the shots. Derek Carr. I
come to know in this story not the first time
Michael's been blowing up Derek Carr after losses, essentially since
he wasn't on the team anymore. And Derek Carr has

(45:20):
been asked about this before, and he's handled it the
way I think you think that an NFL player would
handle it. He's just like, look, I don't like these comments,
but I wish things had worked out better between me
and Michael. I've had a great relationship with teammates for
some reason, that one didn't play out. He's like, I've

(45:41):
tried to call him, he won't take a call from me.
I don't know what to do, but I really wish
Michael didn't feel this way. And I'm paraphrasing, but that's
kind of the way Derek has handled it in front
of the media, And he did make a comment somewhere
along the line of like this started when Michael came

(46:03):
back from injury and found a scenario where Chris Olave
had kind of taken over as the number one receiver.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Oh, you mean the guy who was there available throughout
that whole injury time and built up a really good
rapport with the quarterback, continue to have a good rapport
with the quarterback after you came back. That's what you mean.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
That's that's that's what you mean. Now.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Was it Drew Brees. Was it Drew Brees who built
that rapport with a Lave and no longer threw the
ball to Michael, Or was it someone else?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Someone else? Someone else?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Was that someone else responsible for Michael's ungodly numbers for
the past years prior to that, or was that Drew Brees.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
That would be Drew Brees.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Okay, cool, cool, all right, go ahead, carry.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
On another quote. This is Michael Thomas. Dude, referring to
Derek Carr tried to lie and say I was jealous
of them making Chris wr one whole time. He can't
even get him a decent ball. He needs his ass. Whooped.
That's another tweet right now. I mean, this keeps going

(47:25):
on and on and on.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
You continue to read it.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
However, however, the plot thickens and we you and I
have talked about this before, and this is family members
going to social media in frustrating moments after games. So
all of Thomas's posts caught the attention of someone named Josh.

(47:50):
Josh's last name is Olave. That would be Chris's brother.
So Thomas's post caught the attention of Joshu Olave, who
reposted Thomas's post denying that he was jealous of Olave,

(48:13):
and he put up the always effective hunted emoji and women.
A fan responded to Josh and sort of said, do
you need to have an is it worth it talk
with your brother? That's insinuating the same thing people have
asked about Tua. Does the family need to have it.

(48:36):
Is this worth it? Because this is Chris's second concussion
this year? Is it worth it? Chris? Do you need
to have that talk? And Josh's response ain't worth it?
In Nola, I'll tell you that. So's Michael Thomas over here.
There's also Chris Olave's brother who are doing this on

(49:00):
social media, and I like, my goodness. Like Derek Carr
is not a great quarterback. It's not a terrible quarterback.
We talked about him earlier as sort of an example
of that little spot that you end up in as
a franchise. We were like, our quarterback's fine, he can
he can do some things, he can win games. We're
never going to go all the way with him. But

(49:22):
you've also now lost your seventh game in a row.
I remember sitting here with you when the Saints rolled
the Cowboys Week two and we were like is this real?
And we're both like, I think it's for real. Like
their defense is really good. You know, they've got skill
position guys doing their things. They haven't won a game
since now. Derek missed a lot of those games, but
still they've lost seven games in a row. The trade

(49:44):
deadline is forty eight hours away Eve from. What do
you do with this situation if you're the New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Saints, I don't. I mean, this is not a situation
where I think you have to as an organization spend
any time on Michael Thomas doesn't play for you. This

(50:17):
is Bring Derek Carr Chris Olive in the room, have
a conversation like grown ups, and go play basketball. I mean,
go play football, Go try to win some games. Who
is the quarterback that h did Chris Olive? Who was
the quarterback that got him? You know, his best year?

(50:40):
And I know this is his third year in the league,
but last year he did he did have his best year, right.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I certainly believe me he did. No, he didn't pull up.
Who was that quarterback he went for eleven yards last
year at five touchdowns? Derek Carr was Derek Carr's quarterback?

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Was that Derek Carr? Derek Carr who had him on
a tear this year? Or you know, of course he
had some injuries.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Ye, so.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
You know, I know, uh Rashid don't. He's like, hey, man,
y'all gotta leave Derek Carr a loan. But what y'all
talking about? But leads do loan. They have a nice
young receiving corps and a serviceable quarterback. Whatever Michael Thomas

(51:35):
is talking about, that's something that he feels based on
how he feels about the organization and and and Derek Carr.
That's a hymn thing. So the one thing I do
know is when someone has a problem with you, they

(51:59):
want as to join in on that. So that's what
social media is for. I want to bring others into
this so I don't seem crazy. The crazy part is
starting it. But if you get enough people saying yuh huh,

(52:24):
you're right, then you don't feel or seen that crazy.
This man is at home somewhere and a nice home,
comfortable wall sized TV probably, and he really is hyper

(52:47):
focused on what's going on and he's not a part
of it at all. That in itself is like, hey,
all right, man, just you know, slow down. He's going
and he's going to interject all of his or inject

(53:08):
all of his feelings for Derek Carr based on something
that happened to him and feeling like, oh, this young
buck then came in and took my spot. They don't
want me to be great no more. Well, you had

(53:29):
to be available first and you haven't been available, and
so when you come back, things change. Yeah, that's the
nature of sports.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
And by the way, what you're sort of suggesting, I
want to give people a little background. Michael Thomas is
just a thirty one year old man and has already
banked from the New Orleans Saints seventy four point seven
million dollars.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, he's the best receiver in
the league for three years straight. But he mad like, seriously,
he was the best receiver in the league for three years,
hands down, no, not even a question, no question. I
don't think anybody has had over one hundred It was
one hundred yards receiving for as many years in a

(54:18):
row as he. I mean it was he was breaking records.
That's how that he was.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
He was. Yeah, he was getting over one hundred catches.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
So it's hard to come back in and not feel
like you have the same value after an injury and
some right like so in twenty nineteen, one hundred and
forty nine receptions, good god, twenty eighteen one hundred and

(54:48):
twenty five receptions, twenty seventeen one hundred and four receptions,
twenty sixteen ninety two receptions. Then at twenty twenty forty
he got hurt, twenty twenty two he got hurt, sixteen,
twenty twenty three, thirty nine, he got hurt. Okay, so

(55:13):
when you come back in twenty twenty three, there are
new people there, that's three years you were not available.
That's three years you weren't available. So what are they
supposed to do. We're not gonna throw the ball at
nobody until he comes back. We're not doing it. We're

(55:36):
not throwing the ball to anybody until he comes back,
because he deserves that. Well, in twenty twenty two, one
of those years he was hurt, Chris Elive has seventy
two catches, one thousand and forty two yards and four touchdowns.
Twenty twenty three, the year one of those years he

(55:58):
was hurt, Chris had eighty seven catches, eleven three yard
and five touchdowns. Yeah, Mike, it happens. Brother. If you
if you spent the last three years of your career
not healthy, who are you mad at? Derek Carr?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Well, the world, I mean, And that's kind of what
Derek was was getting out in his responses. He's like,
look for someone to be doing this. Something's going on
and look, I a.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Fan of mine. I'm a fan of football a bit,
and I think we all are.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I was too. She's a major but he got he
forgotten fast.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Well that's what happens in the league. Yes, yeah, that's
what happens in the league. Doesn't need you to keep going.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Well, speaking of being available, both of these players are
only one of them is now playing, although he's the
one that a few weeks ago we didn't think would
be playing anymore. And we need to talk about both
of these players and not only should they be playing,
but where they should be playing. We'll tell you exactly
who we're talking about here in just a second with

(57:13):
e from Salama Mark Weather, Week nine NFL and this
is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
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Speaker 2 (57:30):
All right, these are the tyrak dot com studios. We're
closing in on halftime. Colts just missed a long field goal.
Vikings are taking the good field position and flying right
down the field into the red zone, but the Vikings
have yet to put any points on the board seven
nothing Colts late first half and the offenses have essentially

(57:51):
done nothing. The touchdown of the Colts came on af
a fumble rumble sack fumble return for a touchdown by
the Colts. So we will we'll keep you up to date.
I want to talk about the two quarterbacks that I
was referring to moments ago, but before we do that,
there's a different quarterback. I keep seeing this stuff flying
around social media and I need to throw it at you.

(58:14):
Did you see the today's winner of lip reading Gait,
which is a new fun game to play on social
media after NFL games, which is to find different players
on the sideline or coaches saying certain things. And sometimes
it is painfully obvious what they said. Other times it's
open to interpretation and it becomes a big thing. But

(58:36):
sometimes you can really really clearly see what the person said.
It's kind of like going back to the old days
when Kevin Durant and Draymond Green got in that argument
and then and Durant walked away and goes, that's why
I'm out, And that was kind of the first everybody
in the band knew. They're like, oh, he's gonna leave,
and he did. So did you see the one from

(58:58):
Dak Prescott today? No, it's kind of fun get rid
of It's pretty fun, especially for two guys who've been
trying to tell you since August that the Cowboys are
not good at football and and and that they didn't
do anything in the offseason. And it was weird. Cut

(59:24):
to Dak on the sideline. He leans over to a
teammate and goes, we bleep and suck goodness and Ephraim,
I don't jump to conclusions when I don't know, but
this one, you know, there's no two ways about it.
That's what he said. Oh my goodness, and it is
all over the internet right now. Yep, Wow your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
He ain't lying, A're not wrong, He is not lying. Nope,
They're not a good football team. They didn't come into
the season as a good football team even when they
were healthy, because they didn't do anything to become a
good football team, to become a better football team. They didn't.

(01:00:15):
And you get what you get, you get what you
put into it. We watched and talked about the Dallas
Cowboys letting free agency zoom by them lightning speed. Yep,
and now the realization is oh god, we suck. And

(01:00:42):
I don't know if DAK was paying attention or CD
if they were paying attention because they had other pressing
things that they were dealing with and had, you know,
things on their mind. So I don't know if they
were like an old kind of like, hey, are we

(01:01:03):
not going to sign anybody the free.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Agency right right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Oh, and we're gonna lose our left tackle and some
other pieces. Are we not going to address those holes?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Well? Brother? Like, we're watching this game today and my
fifteen year old daughter sitting there with me and we're
just watching all the games today and she goes, Dad,
I just don't get it, Like, how can they be
so bad when they've got you know, this quarterback, so
highest paid quarterback, and they have a receiver who's so good,
he's such a good player. And I said, right, name

(01:01:45):
the next good player on their team, Like that's it.
And I know their pass rushers are out. I know
they've got two good pass rushers when.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
They were not out, when they were.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Not out good, they're still not good. I mean the
holes in the secondary when you watch this team play,
are they're breathtaking. I wonder if Trayvon Diggs would be
okay with any of us tweeting anything today, like my god,

(01:02:19):
it is it is wild. And for the Dallas Cowboys,
the supposed richest man in the NFL to be quoted
as saying we couldn't afford Derrick Henry, that's embarrassing. You
might as well have made bumper stickers that said we
don't know what we're doing. We we don't know how
to manipulate the cap that you might as well have

(01:02:43):
done that, because that's crazy to me. And now you
look at what Derrick Henry is is out there doing
for the Ravens. You know, it had been a different
story if the boss is at Fox Sports Radio had
looked at you and me and went, look, we know

(01:03:03):
you guys love him, and we know you want him,
but we couldn't afford Steve to say takes out. Yeah,
like right right, we would have passed the hat, you know, Hi, Steve, Howdy.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
I'll just move along because we're in fantasyland right now.
As you talk about the Dallas Cowboys, can I mention
they came into today the worst rushing offense in the
league as well, under seventy five yards a game as
a team on the ground and running back Ezekiel Elliott,
with the reported tardiness and missing meetings outright due to discipline,

(01:03:38):
was not even on the tim team plane to go
to this loss at Atlanta today. So Dallas is three
and five. Their record each of the previous three seasons
was twelve and five. They lost twenty seven to twenty
one in Atlanta. Kirk Cousins three touchdown passes, one fumble,
and you mentioned how limited they are in star power
realistically on the field. Quarterback Dak Prescott left after the

(01:03:59):
third quarter, already injured his right hand hamstring injury the
reason he left. Finally, wide receiver CD Lamb left late
in the game with a shoulder injury. Cooper Rush of
Dallas a late touchdown pass, So twenty seven to twenty
one Falcons the final. We are just about to halftime
at the Sunday night game at Minnesota. It is Colts
seven nothing over the Vikings. Each team has missed a

(01:04:21):
long field goal attempt, and now rookie Will Reikerd has
just missed a thirty one yard attempt for Minnesota that
hit the right upright, So seven nothing Colts in the
lead on the road, burner or not, and in this one.
We had the Colts fumble on their first drive, Vikings
saw an interception on their first drive, and don't forget

(01:04:43):
when Sam Darnold was hit and fumbled returned for the
only score of the night. So Colt seven zip And
that's how Detroit won at six straight game twenty four
to fourteen at Green Bay in the rain. And when
Jordan Love, with the groin injury, threw a pick six
late in the first half, the Lions led seven to three.
Jerikoff had started eleven of eleven passing. By halftime, it

(01:05:03):
was seventeen to three and Detroit's lead was twenty four
to three. Late in the third quarter, Amanros Saint Brown
caught all seven of his targets fifty six yards and
a touchdown. He has a streak going for week after
week after week. Every time they throw him the ball,
he catches it. Early in the season, they targeted him

(01:05:25):
eighteen times and he had a mere eleven receptions. But
since then, this is over a month and a half
now he's literally caught almost every ball thrown his way.
The current streak is thirty times targeted, thirty straight catches.
Next genstat said, how odd, How rare is this? So

(01:05:45):
they looked deep into this, like, based on the difficulty
of each of these thirty catches in a row, what
are the chances of the streak still being alive? It's
one in seven hundred and eighty thousand. Wow that Amanros
Saint Brown has caught these thirty passes in a row.
And again this goes back we a month and a half.

(01:06:05):
Unbelievable power of ball time Rams with an overtime comeback
win at Seattle twenty six to twenty on a thirty
nine yard TD pass. The Rams defense had just stopped
Seattle on a fourth and one on the first drive
of ot so Gino Smith in defeat. Three touchdowns, three interceptions,
sacked seven times. Philadelphia bat Jacksonville twenty eight to three.

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The Jaguars in the first half had one first down
and two turnovers. Their offense in the first half eighteen
plays thirty one yards, and they already had the lowest
ranked defense in the AFC, allowing twenty eight points a game.
They allowed a mere twenty eight today. Philadelphia went for
two three different times and missed all three times. Arizona

(01:06:49):
Beach Chicago twenty nine to nine. James Conner one hundred
and seven yards rushing the Cards defense with six sacks.
It is now halftime at Minnesota, Colt seven to nothing
over the Viking, who are five and two so far
this season. As for the NBA news, it's just three
games and tonight's at Dallas a blowout. The Mavericks lead
with eight minutes to go, ninety nine to seventy against Orlando.

(01:07:12):
Luka Donsich thirty two points. Wins for Atlanta and for Detroit,
which was one and five. We got a victory at
Brooklyn today. The Pistons host the Lakers on Monday. Golden
State Steph Curry with the ankle injury, who's upgraded to
questionable for tomorrow. Paul George reportedly will make his seventy
six ers debut tomorrow at Phoenix. Ryan Blaney won the
NASCAR race at Martinsville, and Oregon and Georgia are still

(01:07:34):
one two in the new college football polls. Penn State
dropped to number six in AP The first playoff ranking
comes out Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Back to you, okay, great stuff, Steve. We look forward
to talking again next hour. By the way, just you
know the name Paul George and different NBA things starting
to come together. I know we do almost exclusively NFL
on Sunday nights this time of year, but I do
feel it relevant. Mister Salaam, let's get a little six

(01:08:04):
games into the season review of JJ Reddick from America's
number one Laker fan.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
The thing and I've gone to some games. The thing
I like about JJ Redick is number one offensive sets,
number two. He's told and put the team in the
league on notice. We're going through Anthony Davis. We're running

(01:08:30):
through Anthony Davis. That this team is going to go
as far as Anthony's gonna take us. And Lebron is
okay with that. I love the rotations. But the thing
I like the most the adjustments late game adjustments that
for whatever reason, our former coach just couldn't get a

(01:08:55):
handled on. I would be sitting there like, huh, have
Austin Reeves guarding someone sixth Okay, okay, cool, yeah, yeah,
that makes sense. Like it's just a line up the
whole nine yards man, And so I'm I'm pleasantly pleased.

(01:09:17):
It's more energy, more attention to detail. I still would
love for them to cut down on the turnovers, but
I'm okay this early in the NBA season with with
JJ Reddick, I really am.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
How are you feeling about D'Angelo Russell?

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Oh, he gotta go, we gotta go. We gotta trade him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
That's why I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
He's not gonna sad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
We just well, he had to go last time. But
now he's got that guy where out as welcome somewhere
so fast.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
He not locked in and he's moody. No, it's like
he's no consistency whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Super talented. If he could.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Be a legitimate fourth score for us, yeah, you know what,
I will you know what. I I think he'd be
great coming off the bench. But we don't have a
point guard right like, so if we had a point guard,
I think he'd be great coming off the bench with

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the second unit, similar to like a Jordan Clarkson. Like
Jordan Clarkson is not in the game to play defense.
He's in there to score when he comes in from
you for Utah, yep. And he's been in that role
for the last five six years, a bunch of six
Man of the Year awards because he can come in,

(01:10:55):
he'd give you twenty off the bench. And if you
have a player like uh, Malik munk up and see
and Sacramento. If you have a player that can come
off the bench and give you twenty oh, you got
something special because that's a second unit that can extend
the lead if your first unit is clicking. And so

(01:11:17):
di'angelo Russell to me, if we had a true point guard,
would be great coming off the bench. But then again,
he I don't know. Mentally he would be locked into
that role. He would feel a certain type of way,
and then it'll just go all to trash. So I

(01:11:39):
just I don't trust him, man, I don't trust him.
And when he's on, he's on. But when he's not
locked in, good lord, that old flippity dippity left hands.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Oh they're gonna mess with your team. Yep, yep. We're
in the tyrack dot com studios. We'll save it for
next that the Warriors are five and one and have
missed Steph Curry for three games. We'll save that for later. No,
actually coming up next. I really do Bryce Young and
Anthony Richardson should they be playing? And for who? Let's

(01:12:15):
get to that next. On Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
What do you think, man like? When you get an
early first round draft pick at the quarterback position, and
then you move off of him in pretty short order.
There's this stigma that goes along with it, which is
to say, like, not only does that mean that you're
benching the guy Bryce Young Anthony Richardson, it means you
need to get him out of the organization. It means

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his chance will not be here. Do you buy that?
And a little car accident for Andy Dalton got Bryce
Young back into the fold. And he won a football
game today? So did he save this? Like? What are
your thoughts right now? Should both of them be playing

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or not?

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Yeah? So he won a football game in unspectacular fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
The only way you can save yourself is to do
something no one has seen, and that's usually spectacular. Sixteen
for twenty six fo one hundred and seventy one yards,
a touchdown and a pick not gonna save you. It's

(01:13:36):
not gonna save you. Winning by one point against another
team that's not very.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Good, lost seven in a row, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Not going to save you. Now if he would have
come out and through for three hundred twenty yards, completed
at least sixty five percent of its passing with a
couple of touchdowns. Then you can be like, oh, well

(01:14:08):
that's different. Hmm okay, well okay, let's see what he's
Let's see what he got next week. That's how you
save yourself if you can't do that. We have a
term that we say in the league, the writing's on
the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yep, yep, it's like, not happen. I know how you
feel about these two players, because we've talked a lot
about them. But what I would do, because you know
what Tuesday is, right, you know what's happening in this
country on Tuesday. Yes, you heard about Tuesday. Oh yeah,
big deal, Yeah, huge deal, big big day. Tuesday. It

(01:14:49):
is the the NFL trade deadline. Yes, well what did
you think I was anyway, So NFL trade deadline. I'm
gonna take advantage. If I'm the Panthers of this win
and I'm shopping Bryce.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Young, I would Yeah, that's exactly what I would do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
I'm gonna do it right now. I'm gonna do it
right after that. Yep or not. Actually, you probably end
up winning even more.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Non get the first so you can get his replacement.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Yeah, but I mean Andy Dalton better than Bryce Young
right now?

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Well, I would take your door over Bryce Young or
Andy dot for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
So but you gotta go get that pick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Maybe I'll trade Andy Dalton to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Them, so sure, do it. Yeah, but I mean there's
there's a lot of competition, especially with beating the Saints
today and they maybe quarterback Hungary. There's there's a lot
of competition for that number one overall pick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Yeah, but all you have to do, I mean, you're
already the worst team in the league, so just continue
to be yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Sure. It is fascinating right now, though. Take a look.
The league is littered with two and seven teams, and
most of them would like a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Carolina two and seven, you bet New Orleans two and seven,
don't even question it. New York Giants two and seven,
you bet Raiders two and seven, Uh huh, Jaguars two
and seven, probably not. The Titans are over here at
two and six, yes, Cleveland two and seven, no doubt

(01:16:33):
about it. Patriots two and seven, probably not. So most
of those.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Two two yep, are not looking for a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Right, So those uh, there's a lot of competition.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, that's why you trade both of those quarterbacks and
you play quarterback with a receiver or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
I mean, yeah, that's what I would do. And then
what about the Colts? And like, we'll get into this
a little bit more here off the top of the hour,
because that one's a little bit more intricate because he's
played even fewer games than Bryce Young.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Yeah, boy, man, I know at least Bryce Young is
professional right in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
All Right, we'll continue this conversation. There's also a team
I need to apologize to. I'll do that coming up next.

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noise there a few minutes ago when I brought up
Anthony Richardson. We really didn't get too deep into that one.
Do you think that the Colts should handle Richardson the
same way I'm suggesting that the Panthers handle Bryce Young,
which is start taking phone calls. You've got less than
forty eight hours to go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Yeah, I do, but I don't think. I don't know, man,
I don't know if there are gonna be a lot
of takers, right like, I don't know if he's shown
enough value in his abilities to warrant. You know, you're

(01:18:44):
not going to trade a first round draft pick the
next year for a six round draft, you know, you know.
It's just it's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Well, I mean, I guess the only comp I can
think of in recent years, and it wasn't the very
next year. It was. It was two years later, but
the San Francisco forty nine ers traded the third overall
picking the draft for a fourth rounder. Right, right, trade,
That's what Trey Lance fetched, you know, less than you

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know after two full seasons, one of which he barely
played and the other one he was the starter and
lasted a game and a half before he got hurt,
and then the following year after that he didn't win
the job, so they dealt him. And that's what I
wonder about, because it's not so much about what you
can get, it's about what the cost is of keeping

(01:19:38):
him there in the locker room. Because there's that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Thing's gone, that is that's over well but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Right, but we paid you. You're a first rounder. What
are you going to do? Keep him in happen to
be your backup?

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
No, no, you gotta get that. I mean it's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
So so you get what you can get and you
don't get upset. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Yeah. On top of that, he's far too injury prone now,
his start, his style of of play, it should warrant,
it should be good with with Taylor as the running back,

(01:20:28):
him as a run like similar to what Baltimore has done.
He just can't pass the ball. He has a forty
four percent passing completion.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
It's pretty rough.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
That's hard, man, That is really difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
That's pretty rough.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I mean that's less than half of your passes are complete.
That is doesn't seem redeemable. And yeah, he can throw

(01:21:13):
a long ball, but he has no accuracy and no touch.
And I don't see where this can go by him
not playing and them playing Joe Flacco. To me, it

(01:21:34):
says it's over here for you. If someone's willing to
take a chance on him, and someone out there is like, oh,
they're just not doing it right. If we had him,
we could do this then okay, right, I could see
him as a backup to Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Okay, I mean, like, here's the thing that just Devil's
advocate for one second here, because when you pick someone early, especially,
and you do know at the time of that selection
that on some level it's a little bit of a project.

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They all are, but some more than others. Either they
didn't have nearly as much college experience as the next guy,
or they are considered in terms of a skill set
as kind of raw. I am describing people like Anthony
Richardson and Trey Lance for that matter. And what people
often say when you start assessing the way you just

(01:22:42):
did after ten football games, because that's it for Anthony,
He's played ten football games. They'll say that's not enough.
So don't you have to And again I'm playing Devil's
advocate here, don't you have to not a guy play
so that he can if you're gonna make that kind

(01:23:03):
of an investment, a top ten pick, don't you have
to wait a little bit longer before Euton caught the corpora?

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Well, why is he only play ten?

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Because he can't stay on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
There you go, So now you're gonna double down, You're
gonna let the train keep on passing. He's played ten.
It's not a lot of football between last year's for
this year, six fifty point two percent of his passes

(01:23:34):
have been completed.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Yeah, he's only attempted two hundred and seventeen passes.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
He's thrown eight interceptions and seven touchdowns. So the fact
that he can't stay healthy and when he is healthy
there is no payoff. And oh, by the way, he

(01:23:59):
gets high in games. Yeah, that was so when you combine.
But what I'm saying is when you combine all of
those things into this package, which is what it is.
It's Anthony Richardson, this is his package, you have to
be like, oh, no, we can't. This is not it.

(01:24:20):
This isn't it. The fact that you thought it was
okay to come out when you were tired was crazy
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
It's just weird.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
I've never do you know how that. No, it's let
me tell you something, man, let me tell you something.
I remember we were I was playing for Houston at
the time, and we were playing Tennessee in Tennessee and
we went on a fifteen play opening drive with and

(01:24:54):
they had Albert Hainsworth in his contract year and Kyle
Vanden Bosh on the same side. So for fifteen plays
opening drive. By the time we got to play twelve,
I could barely stand up in the huddle. I was

(01:25:19):
so tired. I'm leaned over in the huddle, taking super
deep breaths, standing up, trying not to compress my lungs,
but my shoulders are so tired. I'm bending down. We
call the play, I say, ready break, We get up

(01:25:41):
to the line, I run the play, and that sentiment,
that feeling comes all the way back again for play twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
and finally fifteen. Not one time, And I'm talking about
the type of tire where you fill the bottom of
your feet like the needles, like, oh, I might pass out, seriously,

(01:26:09):
Oh oh I might pass out right now. I'm seeing spots.
Let me stand up. Not one time did I ever think, oh,
I come out right now? Because looking over it to
the sideline, most teams don't have two left tackles. Most

(01:26:31):
teams barely have one. Most teams don't have two quarterbacks.
Most teams barely have one. So just hearing that, and
this is not a one off, This is not oh,
this is just this one time. No no, no, no, no, no,

(01:26:54):
Over the course of my one hundred and sixty whatever. Games.
I would have loved to rotate out like the defensive end.
I was going against every down, right, he goes forced
good strong plays, and he got to go on over
to the sideline, get some gatorade, stretch, take a knee.

(01:27:15):
They bring somebody fresh in and then when he's first
they come back. Yeah, I'm still out there, So I
don't have any sympathy. I'm not gonna coddle you as
a professional football player making millions of doubts, I will
not coddle you. I will not say, well, you know
is young and no, no, no, no, no, I'm not

(01:27:36):
doing that because you need to have a temperament and
a mentality to be a professional athlete. And saying things
like that, that's not it. On any level, at any time,
that is not it. There is no substitute for the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
It's weird that you even have to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Two positions don't rotate out. All five offensive linemen and
the quarterback. DBS will be like, well you know we
do no, no, no, no, you can you you can
come off. You can come off. They'll put something you
might come off full play, you can come off. It
won't be like, oh my god, he's out of the game. No, No,

(01:28:26):
Richard Sherman has been on the sideline before in a play. Wow, right,
like it happened some of the best.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
You're forgetting one position with a kicker.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
Oh there, we don't. We don't that backup, but we
don't talk about I'm talking about football players. I'm speaking
about football players, and you would come with this foolishness
by talking about them. They play. They play an average
of ninety seconds a game. Just so you know, I know,

(01:28:57):
I was kidding, Just so you know, kickers the average
of ninety seconds a game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
I know y'all hate the kickers.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
We don't hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
There, you do, just do your jobt just do they do?

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
They do? They got a lot of free time, a
lot of energy, A lot of free time, a lot
of energy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
So, all I'm saying is, I don't know how you
recover from that. You can't just because he's young, because
everybody's young at one point. I don't remember anyone doing
that at that position.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Well, like, like then, I'm gonna go back to my
original point. I don't care. If it's a sixth round
draft pick, then it's a six round draft pick.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Let's do it, all right, run it, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
That's what I would do.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Get him up out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Yeah, if I'm buying everything you're saying, I don't even like.
What on earth would be the point of keeping him?
How is it going to get better? How's how's that
return ever going to get better than than what it
would be? I guess right now? Where he's only played
ten games?

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Yeah, I don't. I don't see it. Man, that was
that was crazy. That's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
All right. I haven't done my official apology yet. We'll
do that coming up next. Plus, there are a few
quarterbacks in this league who we haven't talked about yet
but I think might fit into that bucket of like, yeah,
they're good, but are they good enough? And should the
team move on? We'll hop around to some of those

(01:30:23):
coming up next as well. Week nine NFL Action Vikings
knocking on the door tied at seven with the Colts
with eat from salam Mark Willard. Fox Sports Radio.

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two eighty two, two touchdowns, no picks. The running game
averaged over four yards per carry. The defense amassed six

(01:31:27):
sacks and three interceptions. The team won by three scorers
on the road, and the fact that most of you
listening have no idea who I'm talking about both belies
my point and makes a fool out of me, because

(01:31:51):
last week I sat on this very show and I said,
I'm sorry from they're boring. They're boring. I'm not saying
they're bad, but they're boring. And I just don't think
that this can play in the playoffs in the NFL
in twenty twenty four. You cannot three yards and a

(01:32:13):
cloud of dust me and actually win in a division
that houses Patrick Mahomes, and they probably won't win the
division because the Chiefs are seven and zero. The Chargers
impressed the hell out of me today. And I know
you'll say, oh, they only beat Cleveland. They picked off

(01:32:35):
Jameis Winston. He throws picks to everybody, well not Baltimore.
He carved him last week, carved him up. And this
team was suffocating today in a number of different ways.
A very complete effort. You win you know this he
from you win by seventeen on the road. Good lord,

(01:32:57):
You dominated the hell out of someone. And so they
are completely lacking name value outside of their quarterback, and
even he has sort of faded to the background in
this whole thing. So they're not a great fantasy team.
And nobody really knows the personnel. We're still getting to

(01:33:17):
know them, you know, Lad Maconkey has a funny name,
and that's about all we know. But boy are they lurking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
I can tell you what we do know. What are
we to name? We do know?

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
The coach harb Yeah, yeah, And you pointed this out
last week. And if you go to any NFL standings
board and you look under a category that's called PA.
Just scroll through that that stands for points allowed. They
have allowed one hundred one points this year. The next

(01:33:56):
closest team is the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they've allowed almost
three touchdowns more than the Los Angeles Chargers. I don't
know that that people are thinking about this team. They
actually have a better point differential than the Chiefs. Let
me say that's slow for those that in the back.

(01:34:20):
They have a better point differential than the Kansas City Chiefs.
So watch out. I think that that is a wild
card team this year, along with either the Ravens or
the Steelers, whoever doesn't win that division, and then you know,
then you dive into the bucket of the Broncos and

(01:34:41):
the Colts and the Bengals and maybe the Jets and
the rest. It will be interesting. But yeah, I think,
I think. I think the Chargers are a playoff team.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
I believe so. One thing they do.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
My bad, my bad.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Look, I told you, man, hardball has a formula did
he uses and it's not sexy, but it's effective. He
did it in the pros. If he did it in college,
then he did it in the pros. Then did it
in college?

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Again.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Then he did it in the pros again. The fact
that he has a quarterback that can make every throw.
Not a lot of people to throw the ball to,
mister mcconkee. M But what he's going to do is
he's going to play hard nose football. He's gonna hand

(01:35:35):
the ball off, he's going to be in third and manageable,
and he's going to be in a football game. And
the fact that they do have a legitimate rifleman at
quarterback bolds to the fact that if it comes down
to a final drive, they got a guy who can

(01:35:56):
make every throw. And that's dangerous that Gary.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Yes, let me tell you something about him. Fun fact.
Dorrian Thompson Robinson of the Cleveland Browns has attempted this
year twenty four passes. He has only attempted twenty four passes,
and he's throwing more picks than Justin Herbert. He's throwing

(01:36:21):
one yep, one interception. So it was, by the way,
matched by Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
What was happening, which is wild, what was happening under
Brendan Staley And when you have uh, you know, Mike Williams,
and when you have my who else? It was Williams

(01:36:49):
keen Astin right, Eckler Palmer like he had all of
these weapons, a sound cooat w would be able to
harness that. An unsound coach is just going to go

(01:37:09):
out there and do it right. Put all the pressure
there opposed to we have these weapons, we don't have
to just go crazy. Let's focus on the defense, right
because Brandon said it was a defensive coach was he was?
He not? He was couldn't stop me. So when you

(01:37:35):
have a coach who realizes that but also makes sound
coaching decisions during the game, that's the big thing. He's
not going to hurt you with his decisions. So now
you're in a situation where, oh you're building something. Now

(01:37:56):
they will get offensive pieces, they will get some big
receivers and and they will build this team up the
right way. But right now they're building the foundation and
the character of the team. And it's hard knows it's
about defense. It's about right make them come through us.

(01:38:18):
And that's the mentality you want. We watched Dan Dan Gilbert,
Uh do it?

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Get down Campbell.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
I'm like, wait a minute, Gilbert, I'm the owner of
the cat.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Is the owner of the Cab Gilbert know you have
not watched was like it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
We watched Dan Gilbert write a letter one right, but
we watched.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Dan Campbell change the culture and the foundation of now
arguably one of the best two teams in the NFL
What Detroit and it's it takes time, and it's not sexy,
and it is it's kind of weird, But real coaches

(01:39:07):
understand the process. And I think Harball has it because
all he's ever wanted once he gets his quarterback, he
stepped into inheriting a top tier quarterback or a second
tier quarterback. So I'm I'm excited to see, you know,

(01:39:30):
how this thing plays out for them and in the
future the level of you know, the level of dynamics
they can have as a team because the courts the
chorus would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Uh did you say sexy and kind of weird? Was
that the phrase?

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Okay, Steve de Sager, everybody a there it is there is.

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
Not so sure about that. As far as instant culture
change with an LA football team, though, Harball with the
Chargers now is as obvious a difference as when Sean
McVay took over the Rams from Jeff Fish.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
Lie, absolutely right instant and obviously different even to people
who aren't, you know, like the two of you into football.
I mean, it's just so so obvious and was from
the start. And I will say there has been one
good Fantasy player for the Chargers so far, and JK.
Dobbins had two more tanks on fourteen carries. He had

(01:40:31):
eighty five yards to win at Cleveland twenty seven to ten.
So he's a tough fifteen running back so far at
fantasy this year, just as good as Devon hen or
James Connor or a lot of others. And Dobbins is
five and a half yards of carry for his career.
It's not just like he's having a few good games.
Justin Herbert two touchdown passes today, And by the way,

(01:40:51):
for those in case you hear some sort of month
old take on Justin Herbert on shows tomorrow, No, he
didn't pass much the first month of the season. The
last four games he's averaging over two hundred and eighty
yards through the air. Had had over toot eighty in
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Today.

Speaker 6 (01:41:07):
You mentioned the defense. The Chargers allowed just thirteen points
a game, best in the league coming in and allowed
only ten at Cleveland. And this is with the Charger
offense on fourteen drives, having only thirteen first downs, and
it was still a twenty seven to ten final. As
for tonight's game, we've got Minnesota leading the Colts fourteen

(01:41:28):
to seven early fourth quarter. Joe Flacco has thrown an
interception early in the fourth quarterback for the Vikings. Sam
Darnold two touchdown passes and now three turnovers. He's thrown
a second pick. He also had a fumble that early
second quarter was returned for the only Colts score. So
Indie back with the football and in field goal range.

(01:41:49):
Already down fourteen to seven early fourth quarter, still about
fourteen minutes to play. Detroit won at six straight game
twenty four to fourteen at Green Bay in the wind
and the rain Lions led seven to three late in
the first half. At halftime it was seventeen to three.
It was twenty four to three late third quarter. Next
Sunday night, it's Detroit at Houston. The Rams came back

(01:42:09):
for an overtime win at Seattle twenty six twenty as
Gino Smith had three touchdowns three interceptions in the loss.
He was sacked seven times. Rams won it on a
thirty nine yard touchdown pass in the ot Philadelphia led
Jacksonville twenty two to nothing in the third quarter. Twenty
eight twenty three, the final Arizona Beach Chicago twenty nine

(01:42:29):
to nine. Among the earlier games wins for Washington and
Atlanta wins for Buffalo and Baltimore. That Buffalo win was
thirty to twenty seven over Miami on a sixty one
yard field goal with five seconds left. Oregon and Georgia
are still one two in the new College Football polls.
Ryan Blaney won the NASCAR Race at Martinsville. Americanly goal

(01:42:50):
Glove winners include Royal shortstop Bobby Witt. Junior San Francisco
catcher Patrick Bailey won a gold glove tonight, as did
Giants third baseman Matt Chapman. The NBA games wins for Dallas, Atlanta,
and Detroit, which was one in five it got to
win today at Brooklyn one six ninety two. The Pistons
hosts the Lakers on Monday. Golden State Steph Curry, with
the ankle injury, was upgraded questionable for tomorrow. Paul George

(01:43:14):
will reportedly make his seventy six ers debut tomorrow at Phoenix.
He and Joel Embiid have each missed the first five
games of the season with knee injuries. Embiids still out tomorrow,
but George apparently if he's coming back this soon, would
also be playing at the Clippers on Wednesday. This week
NHL wins for the Rangers and for Winnipeg, which is
eleven and one, and guy, we're in this NFL game

(01:43:36):
tonight at Minnesota. We have had each kicker miss a
long field goal, which is these days, shocky, why.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
He just can't hit a fifty yarder?

Speaker 6 (01:43:43):
Don't they all hit fifty yarders now? In fact, the
stat is this season there have been exactly one hundred
made field goals from fifty yards or beyond. That is
already top ten for a full season in NFL history.
The last three years are the three best years in

(01:44:04):
made field goals from fifty yards and beyond. The new
record was set last year with over one hundred and
fifty made. We've just had a forty two yard field
goal for Matt Gay of the Colts, So sending it
back to you with a Vikings lead of fourteen to
ten over Indy under thirteen minutes to play back to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
You, all right, Thank you, Steve, and it was good
from forty two. I'm not sure if it was going
to be good from forty three if that was the
inside the left up right there, But yep, it's good.
And we've got ourselves a game here in the fourth quarter,
fourteen to ten in favor of the Minnesota Vikings. And

(01:44:41):
from did you hear what Steve said? Is going to
be the game that we're watching during our show next week?
Did you catch that? Did you catch what he said?
The Lions visiting the Texans, And I'm like, oh, that's
an ephrom game right there.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Oh yeah, that's from.

Speaker 8 (01:44:57):
Bowl Well, right team and then uh a team went
to the team and came back to a team because exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Yeah. But like you said, that's the best offensive line
in football.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
And I'm not I'm not saying this to pander to you, awful.
I've always likened an offensive line in football to a
bullpen in baseball. There are these two things that no
one ever really talks about or thinks about, but they
are the reason that you win or you lose. You
got a good offensive line in football, you can make

(01:45:34):
the Sam Darnolds of the world look really good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
And if you've got saying, if you've got a bad one,
you can make the CJ. Strouds of the world look.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Bad, so painful.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
He's getting beat up, killed, He's just getting killed out there.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Kill. All the talent in the world can't use it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
He's gonna get Nico Collins back though for that game
next week.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
Good need that. The setup. That Jets game was a setup.
Game boy, oh shorthanded.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
I'm no expert. I'm no expert, but just look, this
is what I do look for these things.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
You saw the line, right, you saw the line.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
I was like, how and that when a two and
sixteen is favored over a six and two team, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Like, what is happening right now?

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
Do not think that somebody just gave you a free brownie.
Take a bite of it if you want, and then
your head's going to be spinning. That thing is spiked.
That was the most obvious tell of all time. I'm like,
oh my god, and you're right. It was a spot
with injuries and just all of that, and the Jets,

(01:46:52):
even with all that, dropping balls at the one inch
line to celebrate, they had no points at half time.
And I'm like distill they're still in position and then boom,
then they started going down downhill. That that game, You're
exactly right, was a set up for the Jets the
whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Setup. I was like, whoa no. I was watching the
game and I was like, oh, here we go. Come on, man,
I was like, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
Two and six favored against six and two on Halloween night?
Set up? All right, when the tyrech dot Com studios,
I want to ask you about, uh, Geno Smith, Derek Carr, Kyler,
Murray Baker, Mayfield, Sam Darnold, and there might be a

(01:47:45):
few others. What do they all have in common? I'll
ask that question coming up next with Eat from Salama
Mark Willard and this is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
To Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
What exactly is going on here? Talk to me about
the Seattle Seahawks in the quarterback position. What's the plan?

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Well, they have a serviceable quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
And so when you do actually have a serviceable quarterback,
you have to, you know, really just focus on how
do we make that job not turn into a disaster?

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Uh, you know, not having his favorite target in DK
you know, matters.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Yeah, I mean that was that was just today.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
Yeah, it's just today. It's just today, but you got
I mean, they started three and zero and it's gone
downhill from there. But it's one of those. It's a
tricky situation because you know, there's a lot of teams
that would kill to have Geno Smith right now, but

(01:49:18):
you have them. Like the Browns would love Geno Smith,
right like they would the Colts would love Geno Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Okay, I'll buy both.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Of those, right The Saints are not the Saints. I
would say the Panthers. The Raiders would love to have
a Geno Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
The Raiders would love to have Geno Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
That's true, right, Like, so I'm naming off these teams,
the Titans. That's a lot of teams. That's a lot
of teams. So when you know you have value at
a position that others don't, you gotta work the value,

(01:50:04):
you know what I mean, you have to work the value.
It it's one of those everybody's not gonna hit on
the quarterback. Like I said, it's only three top tier
quarterbacks in the league. And unless you can be a
Houston or a Washington, We'll see about Chicago and get

(01:50:32):
the guy right A Green Bay the perfect thing for
Seattle to do is to draft a quarterback and let
them develop behind a Geno Smith. Because one thing we
do know about Geno he's professional. He's professional. He's gonna

(01:50:53):
come to work. He's gonna give everything he got. It
may not be enough, but he's gonna give you everything
he's got. And the young players can learn from stuff
like that. Tom Brady. Uh, you know a lot of
people have been talking about some things Tom Brady has
said about the development of quarterbacks in college and the

(01:51:14):
lack thereof now and even in the Pros, like him
having to earn and learn and wait, and those that
amount of of of learning and watching and waiting in
college and competing lent lent to him coming to the

(01:51:38):
pros and being used to studying and learning the game
in a way that when he got his opportunity he
was ready to go. Well, none of that's viable anymore
because everybody can transfer. For if you don't like what's
going on at one school, you just transfer to another
one and start and be good just off your shre talent.

(01:51:59):
Does that mean you need you know how to read defenses? Now?
Absolutely not. Kids in college aren't even reading defenses. What
do you do you get up to the line, You
clap your hands one time. The whole team stands up
and look over to the sideline. They call a play
based on what they see from up top or on
the sideline. You don't even have to say anything anymore.

(01:52:20):
You just clap your hands and snap the ball. Right. So,
the lack of the lack of learning how to actually
play the position at a level that's conducive to the NFL,

(01:52:42):
it's missing. Now, you got guys with tremendous arm talent
because they've been going to passing campus since they were
seven eight years old. The arm talent is tremendous. They
can make every throw. You can go to college for
one year, Anthony Richardson and light it up. You can

(01:53:03):
go to college and put up tremendous numbers after transferring
from here to there to here to there and light
it up. But how conducive is that to being successful
on the next level? Right, being able to throw a
receiver open anticipation, reading the defense, knowing where to go

(01:53:27):
with the ball. There's a there's a lack of that
uh in quarterback play. And it's and it's tough to
he said it. It's it's tough to have a young
quarterback of rookie come in and try to carry her
an entire franchise. And because there have been outliers Allah

(01:53:49):
Andrew Luck, right, Allah almost RG three, and then you
have a a Joe Burrow come in, and then you
have a c J. Stroud and now Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Yeah, Jayden, And by the way, look, I know it
wasn't a perfect day for either of these guys, but
Caleb Williams and.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Boil and bow knicks so you But I'm talking about
we'll see what it plays out to, right like if
the Broncos don't make the playoffs or if the Bears
don't make the playoffs, I'm talking about outliers like c J.
Stroud did what he did as a rookie for the
Houston and got into the playoffs and won a playoff game.

(01:54:38):
It looks to me right now after nine games, Jaden
Daniels is on that same trajectory. It's the same thing
Andrew Luck did on abysmal coach team and they went
eleven to five and went to do right like, So
those are the outliers. There's not a lot of the

(01:55:01):
and every team expects their first round draft pick to
be that and that's not fair. That's not fair at all.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Yeap. I mean, look, you can you can make the case.
And that's why I find it so fascinating. You know,
if you can get someone serviceable but you only have
to pay a third of the price, man, you better
and run it right. The further this goes up, the
more you can make the case that like, maybe that's
what we should do. It is it's better than giving

(01:55:29):
DAC sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Serviceable is the new thing to do right now, and
you spread that money over your roster, trust me, that'll right.
The Cowboys not going to the playoffs, they're not going.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Yeah, but if you got your guy, you're glad.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
But what I'm saying is he's not the guy. But
what I'm saying is the Cowboys not going Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
Is I think they are?

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
I think they are. I think they have a better
op they have a better shot too.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Yeah. Fair enough, man, Hey, great shot tonight. Yep, yep.
Can't wait to do it next week. Playing and Span
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