Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Discuss Shedeur's Struggles, Preseason Buy or Sell & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Look, I mean sometimes you just gotta shrug your shoulders
and then.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Ask for help.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I don't know about you, Ephraim, but if somebody gives
me something to build, you know, ikia whatever, If you
give me a box and a set of instructions, one
thing is for certain and one thing only. At a
certain point, I'm gonna throw my hands up and ask
for help. I don't speak that language. I don't want

(00:29):
to do it. TaskRabbit dot com is for me. Sometimes
I just don't understand. I'll explain here live in these
Fox Sports Radio studios why I'm feeling that way and
want to bring that up today, But not until after
I say hello and good evening to my friend from Salam.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
What's happening man doing?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Two weeks?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We got this one and then we got one more
and then that's about to end up.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Hey, but look, we got some college football this weekend already, Yeah,
we do. So we had college football and you know
it's starting.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
We've had one college football game.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I know we had more than one, but no, no, we
were one game in yes when we had our first.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Father and brother of quarterback fight in the stands. Gosh,
what is happening?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I told this, like your dad, so I wanted to
hear you on this, like I filled in with at
Arnie and I did a show last night when this
was all this broke, like this all hit the internet
and everything, and I was like, you know what, I
currently like, you rack my brain. There's a lot of
things in life that I wouldn't do, right skydiving, but like,

(01:47):
there's a lot of things that I would be like
that would never happen. If there's anything in this life
that's the most embarrassing thing I could think of, I
don't and I haven't in twenty four hours, but able
to come up with a better answer than putting up
dukes with my own kid.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Like, that's got to be the worst thing that a
human being could do.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
It'll never I mean, that's got to be out of control, right, yeah,
especially in public.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So you apologize all you want, and I don't care
that the kids the kid's an adult, but like, wow.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I don't even see a scenario where it would get
to where I'm fighting my son physically. No, I don't
give off the type of energy to where to my
kids that Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
No, no, no, obviously not. I mean, like, you know,
if I don't know if somebody attacked another family member
or something, I guess, But my gosh, what a what
a weird start to the college football season, which I
guess should be no surprise because college football, just my opinion,
is weird. Like there's always there's a lot of weird

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that comes out of college football. Everybody's changing conferences every year,
everybody's arguing every year, but he wants it to finish
in a different way every year.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Nil.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
And now the players are changing teams every year, and
now we're going overseas and this is the big story
that comes out of it.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
So all kinds of weird.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
And I guess that's a it's kind of a perfect
place to start. I guess because I genuinely want to
come from a curious place here.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I hope this doesn't sound.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Privileged or even opinionated or cross I have arrived at.
I don't understand what's going on with Shadoor Sanders. I
don't get it. And I don't even mean shador, I
mean the reaction to Shador. I don't understand that when
a coach bench is a player, and he didn't even
bench a player. When a coach decide I want to

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get a different look at something in the third and
final week of the preseason, somehow this with this player only.
Somehow this gets kicked to unfairness, racism, and and you know,
an organization being out of line and even I'm sure

(04:23):
it's a lowed sort of like the lunatic fringe if
you want, but it's out there, and it's a lot
of people who feel that way. And I love that
you're here with me tonight because I need to know. Man, right,
you played your African American, talk to me, what in
the hell is going on?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Look, we live in uh. But then when I played,
the social climate was a little bit different in terms
of the amount of voices that could be heard and
listened to. And so.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
People what I do know?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
And this is true in social circles, political circles, religious circles.
You can convince yourself of anything. You can convince yourself
of anything politically. If there's one thing a client says,

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I mean, a candidate that you resonates with you, you
will forget everything else. Like if he's terrible on nine
out of the ten things. If that one is something
that resonates with you, you'll be like, ah, I'm going
with the one. It goes like that in relationships. It

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goes like that. In relationships. Somebody could be awful to
you verbally abusive, god forbid, physically abusive. But the one thing,
that's just one thing they do, this one thing that
I love, and you'll hang in there. You'll convince yourself
it's okay or this is what it is. And it's

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no different when we're making comments on anything that's happening.
It's got to be racist. It's got to be. Can't be.
He had a awful outing. It was bad. Hell, he
was showing something and this is Look, first of all,

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I'm a fan of Shuder, a fan of his, his
dad just on a father son type of thing. You know,
Diane was arguably the greatest athlete in a generation, not
just football player but athlete.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Sure yeah, major league baseball too.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
And he had sons, and his sons are are striving
and aspiring to be great athletes. One just got cut today, Okay,
after getting kicked out of a game for punching some one.
Is that a racist?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Look, and I'm not that guy. Because I'm on the
front lines when it comes to something like that. But
I'm also a football player, and I know how hard
it is to make a team. I know how hard
it is to have opportunity, especially a late round draft pick.
I know what that is, and I know what you

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have to do now. Shadua Sanders did not have a
great preseason game, and he didn't have a great preseason
game this final one yesterday for some of the very
things that we criticized him for in college. You're holding
on to the ball too long. You're not faster than

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any defensive player on the opposing team. In the NFL,
You're not going to be able to extend the play
like you did in college. These were third string. Most
of those guys who were sacking you probably will be
selling insurance or doing something else tomorrow and Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
So, God forbid, it's a TJ. Watt, God forbid, it's
you know, a Will Anderson. He held the ball too long,
He tried to extend plays. Anytime you have a quarterback
face his shoulders towards the other goal line, whether they're

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spinning around or reversing field, he did it over and
over again in that game, and I was watching, and
so if it's a two minute situation is what he
was upset about. First of all, you don't want them
to get hurt, right, You don't want them to get.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Hurt, right, sacked five times prior to.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
That, you don't want them to get hurt yep, Right.
So there's a little value there, right, Tyler Huntley. They
knew what that was going to be. He was released today, right,
So if the offensive line isn't holding up on normal
down in distance, then why would you put him out
there behind the line that wasn't holding up in a

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two minute pass only drill? No one is looking at
it like that. They've already convinced themselves of what the
narrative is going to be.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
And that's the problem I'm having because if you really
step back and look at it, the one thing you
don't want to do is get him hurt because that's
going to alter your decision making moving forward, no doubt.
And so you have to preserve that it didn't go
well the previous five drives he was on, So we

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gotta do something else when we're making this decision, which
they're gonna make in a couple of days now, all
parties are as healthy as they can be at this time,
and not having mcl or not re injured the oblique
that he's been nursing this past week, not you know

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it hit his hand on the helman break a finger.
Like all of those things matter, especially at the quarterback position.
So I was looking at it like, all right, they
gave him a shot. It's not his day to day.
What they don't want to do is exacerbate the situation
by getting them hurt. He's not getting rid of the ball.
He took a sack, he ran, he was five yards

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behind the line of scrimmage and ran out of bounds.
Like all of those things, it's not clicking as fast
as it should, and that takes time for some quarterbacks
when you're used to extending plays and throwing the ball.
Caleb Williams was like that. He learned a heck of
a lesson last year. He learned one heck of a lesson.

(11:03):
I gotta get this thing off because some of those
players with three step drops on a slant, that thing
gotta go. It's gotta go or it's gotta go away.
That's gonna take time. Now, I know, sha door and
his family and everybody thinks he's ready to go right now,

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But what if he's not. I'm not saying he can't
be a pro, but what if he's not ready right now,
that doesn't mean he won't be ready in a month,
two months, next year.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean, I saw here last night, and you know,
Arnie seemed to sort of be like, I mean, after
that performance, he's not gonna make the team. And I'm like,
of course he's gonna make the team. And maybe I'm wrong,
but he's kind of asked me what would I do,
and I'm like, of course I would keep him, because
you've sort of signed up for a weird year. This

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isn't a vowal years. Joe Flacco is there to just
kind of like, I don't know, sort.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Of be we don't Joe Flacco's we don't want to
be oh and four right now. We can be two
and two, one and three at the but we don't
want to be oh and four and our young quarterback
is hurt or are in the tank.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Right and they may go oh and four anyway.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
As first four opponents are the Bengals, the Ravens, the Packers,
and the Lions. But whatever, like the record to me,
is not even the thing for the Browns this year.
It's like you brought in a truck full of quarterbacks.
The year is to a evaluate them and b if
the evaluation is not good, whispers to the person next

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to them. They want to lose, They don't want to
win football games this year in Cleveland. What the hell
does that do for them? They're not winning that division,
They're not going to the playoffs. So why Like for me,
the quarterback where I'm like, I don't even understand why
they would keep him is Kenny Pickett. You know who
that person is, and you know that that's not the future,

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but he's experienced enough to maybe go win you a
football game or whatever.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
What does that do for you?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So to me, it's like placeholder Flacco and then obviously.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Gabriel and Shaduur. To me, they they stay.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
But now I can already tell based on today, where
the national media will.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Go if they don't keep him. Oh god, like, look
the Browns did this whim Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
My goodness, they have they sabotaged him.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
No, no, no, I'm telling you that that's when.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
You played the first preseason game and play well that
next time he played was awful.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's the narrative. If they cut him, it's already out there.
It was out there last night. People were saying that
Dylan Gabriel got good, Offensive Lineman and Shaduur got bad,
and they're trying to set them up to get cut.
And some of these people are like, I mean whatever,
if you're a bot on Twitter, some of these people
got credentials.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
And I'm just like, what what on.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yep, you can convince yourself of anything. That's a powerful thing.
The fact that you can convince yourself that something is
good or bad for you, just merely on the fact
that you want it to be.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
What is the first thing that happens, Because we've all
watched police crime dramas, what's the first thing that the
investigators are looking for when they encounter a major crime.
The first thing they're looking for is motive. And that's
what I want to ask everybody. What the hell would
the Browns motive be in messing around? Oh, we're gonna

(15:01):
take Shador, but we're not gonna take him early. We're
gonna purposely take him late, and then we're gonna bring
him in and then we're gonna take everybody on.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
A weird wacko preseason journey.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Then we're gonna set him up to fail, and then
as soon as as it's it's time to either make
or miss the team, we're gonna cut him.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
What the hell, what's the motive? Why would anyone do that?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
If that's what you want to do, just do what
everyone did for the first four rounds.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Don't pick him.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
That they didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, you're given. You're given.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
The opposite opinion of what Eric Dickerson did this week,
he said, he says the whole NFL colluded to to
not have him picked. The NFL told no one to
pick him, or literally told everyone to not pick him,
and then the Browns eventually defied the league.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I don't buy that at all.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
No, it's not dead serious. It's not dead serious. Dean
sand has personal relationships with some of the gms and
the head coaches and coaches in this league, so much
so that there's a respect level there, right, And so
if it's one of those situations where you know, you

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can feel how you want to feel about Dion, his
sons and the way he fathers should do. But everybody
gets an opportunity everybody gets an opportunity step onto the
field in the preseason. There's some guys who've made rosters
who coming into training camp probably had no business making rosters.

(16:44):
Undrafted guys, guys from small schools. There are those stories
all over the place. There are also some fifth, sixth,
and seventh round draft picks that won't make NFL teams.
They won't make rosters right. Also some first round picks
who are not ready to play. If Shaduur Sounders was

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picked in the first round and played like this in
the preseason, we'd be like, huh oh boy, because there
is a quicker learning curve for first round draft picks.

(17:33):
They're a quicker learning curve. Oh, he's got to be
ready to go now. I want to waste the first
round pick on him. But if you're a fifth round
what he needed to do is embrace where he got drafted.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Le just leave it alone.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Just embrace it. That gives you, that buys you time
to develop. He's approaching it with the actions and the
mentality of I'm a first round draft pick. So when
things don't happen like they due to first round draft picks,
it's bothersome to him and other people, and I'm just speculating, yep.

(18:07):
But you're not a first round draft pick, so you're
not going to get the rope and the leeway of
a first round draft pick. That's what happened. It comes
like that, this is real. No one even talks about
fifth round draft picks.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Most fans don't even know who their team picked in
the fifth round.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
There are some fifth round draft picks who are looking
for a job.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
For sure, there will I mean, I would argue probably
most of them. Most of them I would think on
Tuesday won't make a team. But look, there's more to
share with everybody on this.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
This does go back to last night.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Shador Sanders played a lot of the second half and
then did not get a chance for a two minute
drill and was visibly upset on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
After the game, he was asked what was going on
over there.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
We've got his answer for you coming up next with
e from Salama, Mark Quilerd.

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(20:19):
a few minutes away, which is always exciting. Mark Willardy
from Salam glad you're with us here on a Sunday night,
so check it out. I just I genuinely want to
know how this grabs you. So here's Shador Sanders last night.
He plays the much of the second half. He does
not play well, but the Browns are in a two

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minute drill situation to try to win the game, and
Kevin Stefanski says we're going with Tyler Huntley as the quarterback,
and Shador was visibly frustrated on the sideline, which led
to questions in the locker room, which led to this answer.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
If I could go back and do anything, I mean,
it's always everything in life if you had that chance.
But we don't have the lux feeler we traveled back
in time as a kid.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I want to go back and do things differently. So overall,
of course, you know you wish you can.

Speaker 8 (21:12):
But in the battle of the moment, in the heat
of the battle, you know you want to be the help.
You want to be that dog. You want to be
out there in that final two minutes drive. So you know,
of course, of course small things, of course, buds straight,
But that's what happens, you know, when you want a
player to be able to change the France around.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
How does it all grab you?

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's fascinating listening to you, man, because I know you. Look,
you have the utmost respect for Dion. You you've said
that you're a sudre Standers fan. I'm a fan of
every right, And every time I talk to you about him,
we're either listening to him talk or talking about something
that happened, whether it's on the field or off. Don't
forget the speeding tickets and the arrests and all of
that recently. And every time I talk to you, that

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tone you just gave. That's the tone you.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Know why, because silence is golden when you're trying to
figure something out. Less is more, less is more. You
can't be something you're not.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Right.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
And what I mean by that is we just gotta
uh you know. Update here that the Colorado Buffalo fans
want Kevin Stefanski to be fired fired. This is a

(22:45):
quote for their treatment of star QB schaduor Sanders and
the history of the NFL Draft. Would you consider any

(23:05):
player picked in the fifth round a star?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, yes, eventually I could name a few, but not
before the season and not before their rookie season has started, not.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Before they became a star, right, not before they even
became an NFL player.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
What you have to realize is nothing that you've done
in college matters anymore. Ask Stetson Bennett. Ask him how
many national championships DoD Stetson Bennett have, Right, that's the Rams, Yeah,

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third string quarterback? Correct? Does he have two national championships? One? Two?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
All?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Right, man, mac Jones. Look, we can go down the
list of Heisman Trophy winners and first Team All American
Star athletes in college by.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
The way, too, just real quick too for Stetson Bennett. Yeah,
and he was the MVP of both games.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Trying to make a roster mm hm yep, just like
our Heisman Trophy winner Steve Desiger.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Do it?

Speaker 9 (24:33):
Hello, gentlemen, We do have Sunday night ballgame going on
at Yankee Stadium and New York's up five to nothing
on Boston, bottom of the fifth. Notable because the Yanks
have lost eight straight head to head against the Red
Sox lost to him twelve one yesterday, but tonight three
home runs off the Red Sox starter Dustin May former Dodger.
Two of those long balls from Trent Grisham everything else final.

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San Francisco got two runs in the top of the
ninth and beat Milwaukee and closer Trevor McGill four to three.
The Cubs are five games behind the first place Brewers
in the NL Central. Cubs held on four to three
at the Angels. The Dodgers and Padres are back into
a tie for first in the NL West. Dodgers won
eight two at San Diego, ending the pods five game
winning streak. Freddie Freeman of LA hit two homers, Shoheo

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Tani with his forty fifth home run of the season,
three hits for bookie bets and the win to Yoshinobu Yamamoto.
Six strikeouts in his six innings at Seattle. Two more
homers for Cal Raleigh he has forty nine. Mariners beat
the A's eleven to four. It was eleven to one
in the third inning. Raley's forty nine long bowls most
ever for a catcher to win the Logan Gilbert six innings,

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just one run allowed, thirteen strikeouts. Houston is first in
the AL West, just two games over the Mariners. After
Baltimore beat Houston three to two. Silently. Trevor Rodgers of
the Orioles wins again. He's seven and two with an
ERA of one point four to oh nine strikeouts in
his seven innings today at Tampa Bay. After a long
delay at the start, they eventually he played a full

(26:00):
game seven two rays over Saint Louis Junior Camonero a
grand slam his thirty seventh homer, and Cincinnati, with five
runs in the eighth, won six to one. At Arizona.
Diamondbacks offense two for twenty nine today with twelve strikeouts.
The Reds with well. They are only a game and
a half out of the last NL wildcard behind the Mets.
Mets lost today, Phillies won. Mets will be hosting the

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Phillies starting Monday night in a three game series. At
the Little League World Series Championship game, Taiwan takes the
title seven to nothing over Nevada, its fourth shotout in
five games at Williamsport this year. Today's attendance twenty six thousand.
The Las Vegas team on Saturday won the US title,
beating Connecticut, which then won the third place game today.

(26:43):
The IndyCar Race today went to Christian Rasmussen in Milwaukee.
The US Open tennis tournament began and American Ben Shelton
won his first round match. WNBA victories for Golden State
and Seattle. Minnesota is leading seventy seven to sixty six
over Indiana at the end of three. No no Caitlin Clark,
but she did participate in shoot around. That's a first

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in the last month. She has growing hand ankle injuries.
Their regular season ends September ninth. By the way, most
college football teams opened the season next weekend. We did
have a few games yesterday coming up this Friday on
Fox TV, Auburn at Baylor, Saturday, Texas at Ohio State.
The Minnesota Viking signed veteran quarterback Carson Wentz. Minnesota traded

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QB Sam Howel to Philadelphia. The Browns release quarterback Tyler
Huntley and Raiders backup quarterback Aidan O'Connell will miss six
to eight weeks with a broken wrist. Tommy Fleetwood won
the PGA's Tour championship and he got a you know,
a dollar or two for winning that.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, explain to everybody why that's so significant, Steve, Tommy Fleetwood.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
He had believe it or not earned over thirty million
dollars in his golf career without winning a single tournament
on the PGA Tour. Did we not today?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah? Did we not talk from you? Called them on
a corner Kova of Golf.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, it looks slightly different, but you get the idea.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, never one, but now it's over.

Speaker 9 (28:08):
He'd one on the other tour, just you know, not
on the PGA Tour. And can we update the Colorado
Rockies stat that we do sometimes discuss on this show.
The Rockies were shut out by Paul Skeins at Pittsburgh
for nothing today, so they've lost four in a row.
The record now thirty seven and ninety four. But I
bring up the Rockies tonight because apparently they now have

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been mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. Come on, not just
are they not catching the Dodgers or Padres to take
over the NL West, They literally mathematically cannot even get
the last wild card at this point and we're still
in August. The Colorado Rockies have been outscored by a

(28:52):
few runs. This was your stat originally.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, drum roll, please, here we go. This is incredible.

Speaker 9 (28:58):
There are only two teams in all of baseball who
have been outscored by over one hundred runs total. You
know QM. So far this season Washington and Colorado, the
Rockies have not been outscored by one hundred runs. They've
been outscored by about three point fifty. At this point
of the season, they've scored about five hundred runs, given

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up about eight to fifty. To be exact, they're a
minus three forty nine in the run differential.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Back to you, didn't we look up?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
We talked a few weeks ago about the eighteen ninety
nine Cleveland Spiders.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
Yeah, who lost twenty something games in a row.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, and their run differential at the end of the
year was minus seven hundred twenty three. Okay, but that's
not what's considered quote unquote the modern.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
Era since nineteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Since nineteen hundred, the nineteen thirty two Boston Red Sox
have the worst at minus three forty nine.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Again, I'm sorry. What was the Rockies run differential?

Speaker 9 (29:59):
It is after today minus three forty nine.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Minus three forty nine.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
They have matched the all time modern record and we
still have a month and a half to go.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
So, in other words, this is already worse than the
A's were two years ago. That's how bad the Rocky season.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
The number of games that they are behind the Dodgers
and Padres is the same number.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Of wins they have this year.

Speaker 9 (30:26):
Oh, you're right.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
They have thirty seven wins and they're thirty seven games
out of first place.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
That's incredible. I love this team. I love this team.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
And by the way, to have a bad run, differentially,
you don't just have to give up a lot of runs.
You have to not score a lot of runs. So
they don't score a lot of runs and they play
in altitude. It's incredible.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Does happen?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
I don't know. I don't know either, Like not possible.

Speaker 9 (30:52):
You know, the Expansion Mets, I mean back in the
days when you were taking cast offs who had odd
jobs in the offseason. The Expansion Mets of nineteen sixty
two finished about sixty games back in the standings. And
this is only five teams in a division. Divisions didn't
exist back then, right, They're already about to be maybe

(31:13):
forty games out this coming week and we're still in August.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm so impressed. It's like they're really committed to what
they're doing.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
Yes, they are, so I love that one shot at it.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Go ahead, great, Yeah, like be memorable. Nobody's gonna remember spectacular. Yeah, Like,
what's the Braves record this year? Whatever? You don't know,
they sucked, but nobody's going to remember them. Right.

Speaker 9 (31:37):
The White Sox were atrocious last year. You know they're
bad this year, But nobody's talking about how bad the
White Sox are because it's not atrocious.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
AI is going to spit out the Rockies as an
answer to certain questions.

Speaker 9 (31:50):
For decades to Yeah. Absolutely so excited. Yeah, the Rockies
and the Cleveland Spiders.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
And right, Cleveland Spiders eighteen ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Thank you Steve.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thanks, yeah, thank you Steve, Because you know, Steve de Sager,
see what happens when he comes on the air. It's magic,
absolute magic. All right, dude, what would so? What would
you do? You're the Browns.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Well, So, the funny thing is the replay of that
game is on now I'm watching and I'm seeing things
that I really didn't see the first time I watched it. Thought,
well it is because now I'm looking at him on
the bench after you know, he got sacked again. This
is prior to him being taken out of the game,

(32:36):
and all of that, and you know, body language matters
as a leader. Body language and how you deal with
adversity is very important, especially at the quarterback position. And

(33:00):
it's bad now. These things can be learned, but you
have to understand that you're this self professed, you know, star, legendary,
legendary player. It's very hard for young players who've had

(33:26):
success in college, and he hadn't had the success of
Like I used, that'son Bennett because I remember when he
won his first national championship and I was saying, man,

(33:46):
I hope he is cherishing this moment because it'll never
be this good for him ever again in football. Right
then he got his second one. What I meant by
that is on winning at that level with that much
to do with it. That was his he that was
his ceiling because it wasn't really projected as an NFL

(34:10):
starter in a like it doesn't translate. You're on a
team that had in two years fifty guys drafted in
the NCAA. Yep, so you're literally playing with the stack
deck and your whole defensive line in front and all

(34:35):
of that got drafted seemingly by the Eagles. But I'm
bringing him up because he had ultimate success in college
that eclipsed anything Shade or Sanders did in terms of

(34:58):
team success. The ultimate prize is to win a national championship,
and he got two of them. He was a starting
quarterback for both of those teams. And he's just trying
to make a roster, right, He's just just hoping to
hang in there, to hang in there, Yeah, to hang
in there.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And have a job and make a life out of
out of being a football player. No, Ile, I totally
get it. And there's a certain like in one word,
I can sum up exactly what I keep seeing here
that that bothers me. And it has nothing to do
with him being an outspoken young African American, Like, it has.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
An absolute zero to do with that, zero to do
with all that.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Well, I'm from a young ish outspoken African American.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
You still have that title, yes, So anyway, more on
that coming up next, Micah and the Cowboys at the
top of the hour from the Fox Sports Radio Studios
with from Salama Mark Willard.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
So it's live in the Fox Sports Radio Studios with
Ibram Salama.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Mark Willard.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I mean I'm on a loop Anthony Richardson into this conversation.
I don't know about you, Ephraim. This might come off
as old fashioned. Apologies if it does. I don't really care.
I don't care what a guy wears. I certainly don't
care what color his skin is. I don't care if

(36:35):
he's loud or quiet. I don't care. I don't care
who his dad is. But what I've noticed a lot
in recent years in sports conversations, and this is almost
I've now started calling it because I coined the term

(36:55):
draftism with Rock Party. This is reverse draftism. Now Chador's
separate case because he's in the fifth round. But Richardson,
for example, and this happened with Trey Lance when he
was here in San Francisco as well, and he was
here over the weekend to play for the Chargers, and
so the story kind of came back up again.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
It's happening with Jonathan Kaminga in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
So what happens is is people have somehow decided that
if somebody is not getting the opportunity that that person
hopes for, that on some level, that specific coach either
hates that player or doesn't like young players in general,

(37:44):
or maybe the coach even is racist and somehow we've
completely lost track of the idea of you don't get
to go play just because, like this is one of
the things I love about sports. Yes, a seventh rounder, Hello,

(38:06):
ephrom does this resonate with you can play over a
first rounder if the seventh rounder is better?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
And ed?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I thank you, And I'm not.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Gonna sit here and tell you that institutional racism doesn't
exist in the sport.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Of course it does.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
But the idea that coaches whose livelihood is dependent on
winning games, the idea that they're picking and choosing who
they play based on something other than who's good, that's
it is crazy to me. I didn't like Richardson's response
when they picked Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I don't know. I mean, maybe I need to get
up out of here. What have you done? You're terrible
at football.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Every time I watch the guy, he's awful at football
so far.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Doesn't mean he may not become good.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
But as an organization supposed to be held hostage for
how many years when they draft someone and that player
doesn't look good?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
And did we not do this to Tebow? Like? If so,
if anybody wants to like he wasn't good at football
at the NFL level.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
So that's what gets me is the idea that something
is owed to you simply because of your name value
or your draft status.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Look, man, this is a job, so you have to
carry yourself as a professional. My father told me I
was at the my third year, going into my fourth year.
I finally was high tendered, and so I was gonna
make a little bit of money, and they wanted to

(39:55):
restructure that little bit of money and give me half
and then put the other half in like a player's
bonus or whatever. Okay, And I was furious, and I said,
I've been starting for three years. I've done all of this.
And my dad said, look here, man, you're gonna show up.
You're gonna go to work. You're gonna be professional. You

(40:15):
can't control when you play or how long you play,
but you can control how you play. Just worry about
that and everything else. To take care of yourself. You
can't be walking up and down the sidelines sulking with
a towel on your head. You can't in the middle
of a national football game take yourself out the game
because you're tired, and then expect the team to invest

(40:39):
in you, and you're wondering why, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's well said. So now let's talk about Michael Parsons.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Okay, we're gonna do that coming up next.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
To Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Okay, let's keep on pushing again.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Took two weeks from today, we're gonna be sitting here
in these same two chairs and it's gonna be like, oh,
it's the second quarter of Sunday Night Football, and we're
gonna be talking about everything that had happened on Thursday
and Friday they're down in Brazil, and then Sunday all day,
all the games.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
My goodness, none of us can wait.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
And cheers to all of your fantasy drafts that happened
yesterday and today wherever you are out in the world.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
And a solid nod.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
To those of you haven't done it yet and you
like to wait until the last minute.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
All good either way.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, Mark Weller and
need from Salama. I'm so glad you brought up your
dad and that advice that he gave you at one
point when a company kind of makes you mad, and
then you've got a choice of how you want to
go about it, like You're not gonna sit there and
sulk on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
I kind of need to hear that advice actually right now,
and I'm gonna take it to heart. And so great,
there's that. No, it's not this company anyway. Point is
is that? What would your dad have said to Micah Parsons?
You and I have been on his side the entire time.

(42:11):
We've thought this whole thing was silly. I don't I
don't know what Jerry Jones is doing. I have no
idea who wins here for the Cowboys if Micah Parsons
is just sitting there watching football games. And now the
two sides have gotten to a point where everyone's reporting
I think this is headed for a divorce, Like they
just they can't stand each other and they're cussing each

(42:36):
other out and then telling everybody about it publicly. But
then but then Micah is on the he's on the
trainer's table napping during the game.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Justified or no, no, no, man. Professionalism is a real thing.
It's a tangible skill. Everybody doesn't have it, and it
goes not just for athletes, but I'm talking about the
god chevron and the lawyer or judge anybody, a politics,

(43:10):
a president. Professionalism is a real thing and it shapes
how people look at you. Now it goes for ownership
as well, but the owner of the company essentially gets

(43:36):
to make their own terms. But how you handle something
you don't agree with, that's the professionalism angle, right, And yeah,
sometimes you get really mad and you get pissed off.
I've never burned a bridge when I played in the NFL.

(44:00):
Number one, I understand it's a business. That that thing
that happened in my fourth year that my dad spoke
to me about and gave me that advice that turned
the light onto it being a business. Yep. Right, whether
I play or not, or whether I'm on the team
or not, the team still plays that they still go.

(44:20):
Kevin Carter not, excuse me, not Kevin Chris Carter at
our rookie symposium. And this is ninety eight, so you know,
Peyon Manning was in there, Woodson, we had a nice
little draft class. Fred Taylor, we was all in there.
He said, pay Manny, stand up, number one pick in

(44:42):
the draft. NFL don't need you. We never played one down.
NFL wouldn't care. It's still be going. NFL doesn't need me.
I'm on my way to the Hall of Fame. Doesn't
need me if I catch an if I don't catch
another ball, Randy Moss, NFL doesn't need you. Now I

(45:05):
need you as a Minnesota Viking, But the NFL doesn't
need you because it's a business. The business was here
before you, and it will be here after you. So
if you go into this business expecting like they owe

(45:26):
you something, you won't be here long. A man stood
up there and told a whole room full of draft picks,
rookie draft picks that from the first pick and Peyton
Manning to the last pick, and that resonated with me.
The league doesn't owe sha Door Sanders anything. If Shador Sanders,

(45:49):
god forbid, doesn't play one down of football in the
regular season his entire life, it won't matter to anyone
outside should his family. Cleveland Browns fans will be okay,
and every other fan will be okay. Now they may
not they may disagree with it or whatever, but the

(46:12):
games will still be played and still be watched. That's
the nature of the business. And if you react unprofessionally
when things in business don't go your way, you're setting
a precedent to how others deal with you in that business.

(46:35):
That's the key point. You can't walk up and down
the sidelines with a towel on your head pouting. That's
just not it, all.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Right, But then what about this? How far does that extend?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Because I think I would argue, you know, when you
say to every individual that's on a team, NFL doesn't
need you, you're right, You're right. I don't think they
would say that about Jerry Jones. No, they wouldn't say
that about Jerry Jones. So what so what is what
are his responsibilities in terms of professionalism?

Speaker 4 (47:13):
He can, like I said, I mean, he can do
what he wants to because it's his team. He can
tell people we had a deal and we shook hands.
You can do all of that, yep, And that's his
right to do that. But the bottom line is, whether

(47:33):
Michael Parsons ever plays another down for the Dallas Cowboys,
they'll still be the Dallas Cowboys. There their value won't
decrease one one bit, no, not one dime no.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
And it's number one and all sport.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
And that's how Jerry is looking at the situation. Jerry
Jones has been doing this for a long time.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
He has.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
But but that doesn't Okay, that doesn't make him right.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
No, no, no, no, no, it's right. I'm not saying right.
He can to do it the way he wants to
do it.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
In other words, you've got a right to be dumb.
Just that's my opinion. Yeah, you've got a right to
do it wrong. Well, we've seen him do it wrong
for quite some time. This is not shocking to me. Oh,
I'm not. I actually think and I took your your
thought on this. I think he likes this, he loves

(48:32):
They are the number one story every day, there's a
check in how's Micah doing it? And then there's Jarah
and Jara's on a podcast, and Jared's telling everybody his
agent told me to go bleep myself.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
And and now why would he do that? Why?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Why would he do that? I don't know if he
thinks he's gonna curry public favor. I don't think he cares.
But my god, it's good content and and it's certainly
here we are Fox Sports Radio. You get to the weekend,
what are the biggest stories of the week. Micah parsons,
I think that's what Jerry is.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Jerry could do Jerry's in the business of show business. Yep.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Let's not forget this is entertainment people, right.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
But but you do like, to me the best the
best blend that they blend that because winning is entertaining.
Now you could you know, Jerry would never run the
New England Patriots the way Robert Craft did. Jerry in
his own state probably threw up in his own mouth

(49:37):
when he saw the Spurs dynasty. In other words, those
were the dynasties that were simply based on winning.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
That's it, Yes, that's it. But they no marketability.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Oh no, there.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Was no Cowboys, no Lakers, no Yankees. There there was
no entertainment value. To me, Jerry has faulted the Cowboys
in the other direction. If if the Patriots and Spurs
are too boring, the Cowboys are too exciting.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Yeah, yeah, because like there's so much.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Drama, like they they have become the real housewives of
the NFL. And that's just not it's not productive. It
rates it and rakes, it does all of those that,
but it doesn't win.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah it Look, I think this whole thing will come
to an end.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Do you think he's gonna play for the Cowboys again?

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Yeah? I do.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I do too. I do too.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I know everyone's planning out the divorce, but I don't
really understand, Like, this is the NFL, and you don't
have the power to do that.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
If they don't want you to do.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
That, you don't have the power. You don't and so
you just go to work.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Man.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Now, you can hold in or hold out whatever they're
calling it these days. But what I'm not gonna do
is compromise my professionalism. Right if if me and Scott
were in negotiations and I didn't like the way it
was going, Scott being our boss here at JAD Fox,

(51:30):
I wouldn't come on air and you talking, and we're
having a dialogue and I'm just refusing to answer you,
and I'm only using one one word answers, Yeah, yep, cool, right,
three hours of yeah huh yeah to prove my point?

(51:52):
What is what point am I proving that I'm unhappy
that because that would just replace me, right, George Reister
or somebody sitting in here.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Five Sports Radio does not need us. Don't name me.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
What was here before me, It's gonna be here after me.
So I'm gonna come and I'm negotiating good faith, and
I'm gonna look, I'm I'm gonna be here, I'm gonna
be on air, and when my contract is up, I'm
gonna go if I don't like something how it is.
But what I'm not gonna do is compromise who I
am as a person. I'm not going to become this

(52:26):
thing because I'm angry. That's a that's a lesson for
life as well, for marriage, for a fatherhood, for parenthood. Right, Like,
I'm not gonna go home and be somebody I'm not,
and you expose yourself when you do that. Now, these

(52:50):
young men are young, she doas Andrews is a young
he's a young man, and his perception of what a
ea and what he's it's skewed a bit because he's
come from a tremendous upbringing with a lot of access.

(53:11):
Not to say he has not worked hard for where
he is in life, but his net worth is already
well over ten million dollars on his own, not anything
to do with his dad or anything like that. On
his own. He's buying his own cars, got his own house,
doing his own thing. So perception is different. It's different, right,

(53:39):
It's a little bit different when you trying to make sure,
your mama water owned, So you got to make this team.
You got to do all the things right to change
everybody's life and your family. That's what a lot of
these kids are fighting in these training camps to do.
This is real life story. This is real A lot
of these players are fighting to change the social economic

(54:01):
background of their entire family, and they're doing it themselves.
You want to talk about pressure, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I mean I sort of erroneously.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
In talking about the Shiloh Sanders situation yesterday, and I
didn't mean it directed at him, but I was talking
about how, in some ways, the third preseason game, not
in the ways that we care about, but the third
preseason game should be the most intense one of all
because those are the players that are just fighting to

(54:35):
make an NFL roster and what is awaiting them on Tuesday,
as I think you said earlier, is either an NFL contract,
or it could be a delivery chuck, or an insurance
job or grocery store clerk, as Kurt Warner once was like,
that's what's waiting on the other side. So the intensity

(54:55):
is very, very ramped up. So that's why I can
see stuff like that happening now. Shiloh sand is the
one who did it. That doesn't necessarily apply to him,
but you're you're absolutely right like that. That's that's what's
on the line in the games that we watched yesterday.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Yeah, it's it's a lot different for the Sanders kids, right,
Whether Shiloh gets picked up by anybody, he'll be fine.
Now his dream may come up to an end of
being an NFL player, but just you still have to
be good. That's the one thing football weeds out. Now.

(55:38):
You can sit at the bench. You can sit at
the end of the bench in basketball and be the twelfth,
thirteenth guy on the roster and just be there. But
you can be on the practice squad in the NFL
and never really get active, you know, to the active roster.

(55:59):
But if you take one of those fifty three man
active rosters forty eight man travel roster spots, you better
bring something to the table. You better be on special teams,
you better be making every tackle. You may not even
play your position for the first two three years in

(56:19):
the league. What's my man's name from? UH retired recently
from New England. UH Slater Slater Slater, The UH probably
gonna be in the Hall of Fame for special teams.

(56:41):
I Matthew Matthew, Matthew Slater. Well, we don't even know
what position he played. We don't even know what position
that was. We don't know if he was a dB
A corner of.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
His list of safety, this listed wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Not one pass gonna be thrown to him. But he's
had a Hall of Fame career. He's made I don't know,
double digit Pro Bowls for special teams. He will get
Hall of Fame nods for that. He found value in

(57:22):
a place where he can maximize it. Played in the
league for a long time.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Oh yeah he did.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
He didn't come into the league like I'm gonna be
a special team guru. He came into the league. I
want to have a thousand yards receiving. I want to
score touchdown, all of that. Throw that out the window, bro,
that that's gone.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
By the way. You're completely wrong. He does have one reception.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Okay, what my bad, But you see what I'm saying.
How long did he play.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Eight to two years ago?

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
He played for fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, with one team and made ten Pro Bowls. Yep,
Come on now, and you and I could remember his name.
Come on now, Matthew Slater, Matthew ten Pro Bowls. He's
going to the Hall of Fame, probably ten Pro Bowls.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's real.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
This was a receiver. He didn't come into the league
wanting to just play special teams. But guess what if
Shiloh Sanders were to emulate that and be a special
teams maven for fifteen years, I could just say anything
bad about him. You don't get Sometimes you just gotta

(58:33):
be the best you can be and what's available. I
would have been the coach. Hey, put me on every
single special teams.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Yep, put me in. Yeah, put me in.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I want to be on everything, and then I'm going
out there not as the heir apparent to my father,
who you could never live up to. Dian is a
one of one. Think about how good Darrell was and
the news like the Sauce and champ and and all
of it not even close.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
To nothing compared to Dion. Yeah yeah, all.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Right, Like so what that thing that's over that? You
forget about that?

Speaker 3 (59:14):
All right?

Speaker 2 (59:14):
While we're on these holdouts and we can throw Shador
into even though that's.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Not a holdout.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I got four situations and coming up next, I want
your prediction in terms of how they're gonna play out.
One's a roster bubble, two are a holdout, and the
other one is a holdout. Maybe that's all coming up next.
H here in the Fox Sports Radio Studios. That's e
from Salama Mark Weather, Fox Sports Radio. Who I just

(59:44):
saw a baseball quote that annoyed me. Annoyed me, but
I'm not gonna break my stride. We'll get to it later.
We'll do a little buyer sell with Ian coming up
at six forty five in the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
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time you lock in. Okay, so, Micah Parsons, your prediction

(01:00:30):
is what he plays, and when.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I think he plays, I think probably Week two takes
a week off well, I think he has to get
up to be playing shape. Yeah, he may spot play
in week one, but I think within this two weeks
that deal will get done. Similar to last year and
the year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Before Terry McLaurin in Rival Washington, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
He plays for Oh maybe and uh I think you
think he's gonna skip the checks. No, No, I think
he'll be there. I don't think he'll be on the
active roster. I mean, I think they just took him
off pup right now, but you know they ain't gonna
put him in the game if he hasn't practice.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Shador Sanders, how do you think this plays out to today?

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
What I hope and and what the reality is may
be two different things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Okay, let me hear him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Well, I hope he makes a team. I would hope
he would have an opportunity to be the backup quarterback
in two weeks. But what I think is going to
happen reality wise, based on what's transpired and what's happened
since he's been there, they may release him and bring

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him back for the practice squad. Because I think that,
I think you still have to do that. I think
you have to release a player and then invite them
back after they clear waivers. I believe, I believe you're
correct that's how it was. I know they've expanded practice
squad and there's some new rules, and like you used
to only be able to have five players total on

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practice squad, so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
I think that's the reality of the situation. I don't
know if they can carry I don't think the Cleveland
Browns are good enough to carry four quarterbacks on the
active roster, because you got to remember, those three quarterbacks
are taking up three positions that you need. None of

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them play special teams and none of them play other
positions other than quarterbacks. So most teams go into a
game with two active quarterbacks and extenuated circumstances three got
a third, right, but never four ever, because that's a
waste of a roster spot and you need to maximize

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everything you're doing team wise and yep and field wise.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
They said they would do it, but I'm with you,
I don't think they will.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
And that's a recipe for disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yep, yep, I agree, okay, And that there's one more
air quotes hold out because I'm not one hundred percent
sure it's a holdout even though it's a holdout. But
I'll hold that until after we bring in somebody who
would never hold out because we would never anger him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
His name is Steve Desager.

Speaker 9 (01:03:41):
And there is a Brown second rounder who has yet
to sign, I believe, the only one from this year's
draft class indeed that has not signed. By the way,
have you talked about practice squad? I was looking this
up this past week. You're right. It was five players
on the practice squad for a while, and then win
it to eight and then to ten. I believe it's
sixteen now on the practice Wow. And while it used

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to be five thousand bucks a week, it's up to
at least thirteen thousand bucks a week for rookies and
more for veterans. So congrats to those guys. As for
the news that's gonna come out this week, the NFL's
cut down deadline is Tuesday afternoon to get the rosters
down to fifty three and then the waiver claims begin.
The preseason ended last night. The league's regular season opener

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is Thursday, September fourth, Dallas at Philadelphia. The Minnesota Vikings
were in the news today signing veteran quarterback Carson Wentz.
They cut quarterback Brett Rippon. Minnesota traded quarterback Sam Howel
to Philadelphia. The Eagles cut quarterback Dorian Thompson Robinson. Philadelphia
backup QB Tanner McKee has a broken thumb but will
not go on injured reserve. The Browns release quarterback Tyler Huntley.

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They may be carrying four quarterbacks this year, including both
rookies we'll see The Raiders backup QB Aidan O'Connell will
miss six to eight weeks after a broken wrist suffered
last night. The Saints are due to name they're starting
quarterback this week, either Spencer Rattler or Tyler Shuck. The
Jets wave I know. The Jets wave quarterback Adrian Martinez.

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The Rams cut quarterback Dresser Win Gues some general managers
saying these are my choices. Most college football teams open
the season next weekend. Tommy Fleetwood won the PGA's Tour
Championship since May. This Tour championship is now his sixth
top four finish. We'll have more on him in an hour.
By the way, US team captain Keegan Bradley will be

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making six captains choices for the Ryder Cup. On Wednesday.
He just finished tied for seventh at the Tour Championship.
There hasn't been a playing captain in the Ryder Cup
since Arnold Palmer in nineteen sixty three, in a win
at Eastlake and the WNBA. The late game goes to
Minnesota at home, a team that's now thirty and seven
and got its All Star and MVP candidate back from

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injury Tonight ninety seven eighty four the final over Indiana,
which is missing it's All Star still but NAFISA college
in the win for Minnesota thirty two points. She'd missed
seven games with a sprained ankle. The news from Caitlin
Clark was that she actually participated in shoot around. That's
like the best news they've had in about a month
and a half. Groin and ankle injuries the problem. Their
regular season ends on September ninth. New York star Breanna

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Stewart is due to return in the next week after
a bone bruise in her knee. To Major League Baseball.
The Yankees lead is five to two over the Red Sox.
In the bottom of the seventh inning, Carlos Rodin, the
New York starter, went the first five and two thirds.
As for San Francisco, two runs and the top of
the ninth got him a win at Milwaukee for to three,
beating the Brewers closer Trevor McGill. The first place Brewers

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in the NL Central now five games over the Cubs,
who won for three at the Angels. The Dodgers and
Padres are tied for first in the NL West again.
LA won at San Diego eight two, ending the Padres
five game winning streak.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Show.

Speaker 9 (01:06:51):
Heyotani hit his forty fifth homer at Seattle, two more
long bowls for cal Rale of the Mariners. He has
forty nine, most ever for a catcher in one seed,
and the Ms led the A's in the all alphabet
game eleven to one in the third inning eleven to four.
The final victories for Baltimore and Tampa Bay and Cincinnati
is only a game and a half out of the
last NL wildcard behind the Mets. The Rockies, just a

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little bit further behind Cincinnati with five in the eighth,
got a six to one win at Arizona. Yeah, the
Rockies got shut out at Pittsburgh. Poul skiins the win
four nothing the final. The Rockies have lost four straight
They're thirty seven and ninety four this season, and at
the Little League World Series, Taiwan won the championship seven
to nothing over Nevada. And multiple reports say Major League

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Baseball is going to have a Field of Dreams game
again next summer, that they are returning to Dyersville, Iowa,
and it will be the Phillies against the Twins. We'll
find out the exact date because the MLB schedule apparently
for twenty twenty six do to be released on Tuesday.
It was a special night when they had the inaugural

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events in Iowa at the site of the famous Kevin
Costner movie, a twenty twenty one game that featured a
walk off home run for the White Sox to beat
the Yankees. They went back the next year and had
the Cubs over the rival Cardinals. Last year, they played
a game at historic Rickwood Field in Birmingham and paid
tribute to the Negro leagues. This year, they attempted a

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game at Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee, and the rain
had something to say about that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Banck to you, So all of our ideas got thrown
to the cutting room floor.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Huh whenver all of our ideas. A few weeks ago
we decided, Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I mean, maybe they're still out there, but we were
going to maybe play on the moon.

Speaker 9 (01:08:37):
They already opened a season in Japan, right and right
South Korea year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
And there was the Alcatraz idea that we discussed.

Speaker 9 (01:08:44):
Now, yeah, that is a home run ball retrieved that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, that ball is wet and the loser has to
go to jail. So I thought that would be dramatic.
But yeah, I guess we're just gonna have to I
won my battle with the super Bowl being on President's Weekend.
These other battles, we're just gonna have to keep fighting.

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
Steve, in a couple of years, when it's in LA,
it's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Say this, tell you from about this, please please.

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
It's a lot of us have thought, why don't we
just have the super Bowl like the day before President's
Day and then it's like a three day weekend. In
two years, when the super Bowl's back at the Rams Stadium,
it's due to be on President's Weekend. The thing is
the super Bowl scheduled date, which is for the NFL,
usually written in Penn is February the fourteenth. In a

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couple of seasons. It's gonna be on Valentine's Day to
needless to say a first.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Oh so they just killed Now they're taking over the
NBA All Star Game too. Oh sure, that's the same
weekend as All Star Game?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Well is it? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:09:48):
Sometimes Grammys star Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Wait a minute here, I'm all look that up. What
year is it gonna be twenty seven?

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:09:55):
Yes, because after this would be twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
So yeah, Valentine's weekend's always a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Twenty twenty seven is going to be February twenty first.
Whoa February twenty first, And.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
They're like, we're going to get it intil we'll get it.

Speaker 9 (01:10:16):
And I who just read that the Grammys in LA
is moving to the off week next year in between
the football conference championships in Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
That's next.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
But so here's the fun part from do you notice
what happened here?

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
So last night Steve mentioned this to Arnie and I,
but he didn't mention it like it was sort of
presented differently.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
It was more like it's gonna happen on February fifteenth,
twenty twenty seven. Neither of us immediately went what about
Valentine's Day, Steve, like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
He completely went over our head.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Then he presented it to you as Valentine's Day, and
your head immediately went to, what are they gonna do with.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
NBA also our weekend? Like, women, this is what's happening?
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
We don't even It doesn't even register, Ephraim, we don't
even know. And now they're going to put the super
Bowl on that day and everyone's going to be mad
at everyone. But we'll have tomorrow off so that we
can sleep in and fight about it before.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
And whatever they want.

Speaker 9 (01:11:25):
Man, she's got to dinner on the fifteenth. It would
be less credited.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, early dinner.

Speaker 9 (01:11:30):
So the NFL is a Thanksgiving and now Christmas for sure.
Valentine will be Valentine's Day in a couple of seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Coming for Saint Patti's Day in a few years.

Speaker 9 (01:11:40):
The good news is, though, for those who don't like
the idea, the calendar itself does move year to year.
So while it's on February fourteenth one year, it'll be
February thirteenth Super Bowl the next year. Because they're not
moving the super Bowl to Monday, they're not keeping up
with Valentine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Right, So that way instead we can go out for
dinner on Valentine's Day, but we'll be hungover.

Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
So and still a holiday weekends.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Still a holiday weekend. Yeah, So there you have it.
Thank you, Steve. Awesome. We'll talk to you in less
than an hour. Hey, we'll do a little buyer sell
with the in coming up. But I wanted to pay
off what we were talking about. There's one one more
player out there, and it's getting juicy, and I don't
think everybody fully knows how juicy it's getting. Are you

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following Juwan Jennings and the forty nine ers at all?
Are you following this situation?

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
See, the world just believes that he's got a calf injury.
But here in the Bay, everyone's been asking for weeks.
Is he hurt or is this business? Because ESPN reported
prior to camp starting, Juwan would would like a new
contract or he would like to be traded before camp starts.

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He got neither of those wish Then he showed up
to camp, he practiced for three days, and then he
disappeared with a calf injury. Now, Kyle Shanahana said, yes,
the calf shows on the MRI.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
You can see it. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Then he was directly asked, so the injury is not
about business.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
He said, well, you'll have to ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
On that, but the calf shows Okay, Now he still
hasn't shown up. The preseason's over, and right after the game,
Kyle says, oh, yeah, No, we expect Juan to be
ready to go for week one. They said, but wait,
cale what about the calf? He goes, well, you're right,

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calf's are tricky, so you never know, but we expect
him to be ready. I'm like, but if they're tricky,
how do you know? And so it goes. I think
this is more about business than the calf. I'm pretty
sure of it actually, And the Niners, like almost all

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their other receivers are hurt, so there is a little
bit of leverage there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
That situation add up to you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Yeah, I mean, I know they didn't want to go
into this offseason with another holdout, but they need receivers. Man,
they gotta they gotta do something badly. They got to
do something.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
All right, So would you pay him?

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
You have to at this point they have no receivers.
We're gonna trade him to and get what.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
No, they're not gonna trade him.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
It needs someone to throw the ball to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
But is that man who's only made like ten million
in his career seven thrownd pick is gonna miss games,
It's gonna sit out games.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
No, I don't think so. But I mean, look, you
would he be a number one on other teams?

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
No, No, I don't think he's the number one on
this team. I think Pierce All will be.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Well, we'll see. We don't know who pier this All
is yet. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
But you can't sign your quarterback and not give them
something to throw to. Especially you can't throw games away
with the easy schedule you guys have.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
That's fair if you can't do it, Yep, that's that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Okay. We did buy or sell quarterbacks last week. Buy
or sell situations. Ian's got a few of them for us.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
We'll do that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Coming up next, Fox Sports Radio Studios, Mark and EE
from Fox Sports Radio Live in the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
That's it from Salam. I'm Mark Willard coming up at
the top of the hour. How do you do your
NFL Sundays? We got to get even Steve into this.

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I know how we end our NFL Sundays we all
get together here. But the process, the wake up, When
does it start?

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Where do you go?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
What do you eat? All of it? We're two weeks away.
But right now, uh, it's time for a little buy
or sell. It's time for a little buy or sell.
Let's let's get eat Roddy in here to take it away.

Speaker 10 (01:16:16):
All right, buy or sell? You guys know how it works.

Speaker 11 (01:16:19):
I'm just going to present a few situations to you
guys from around the NFL, and you're gonna tell me
whether you're buying or selling stock in that situation. It'll
make sense as we go here. So let's start with
this a Marvin Harrison junior bounce back season from what
do you think he had a little bit of an
underwhelming rookie year. Do you believe in him having a
bounce back here as a sophomore?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Here, man, that's an amazing pause, A great pause.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
No, No, I'm selling, you're selling. Yeah, I'm selling. Don't
believe it, Kyler? No, And look, I just I'm not
a fan, all right, And I'm not a fan. And
I know he came in and took the league by
storm and he just hasn't paid off. I think he's

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too small. I think he relies on his feet too much,
but as you get injured, your feet are less and
less reliable. And I just I don't see him. What
throwing for three thirty five hundred, four thousand yards, I
just don't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
I'm also gonna sell, but I'm not gonna make it
that much about Kyler.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I have a little bit of a problem with you
calling it a bounce back, because bouncing back means that
you were up on top to begin with and then
you fell and bounced back. He's never eight hundred yards
in the rookie year, and again he was a rookie.
That's fine, But take it from somebody who grabbed him
early in a fantasy draft last year and got caught

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up in the hype and watched a lot of his games.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Dude, it's just not there. They don't target him that much.

Speaker 10 (01:18:08):
Yeah, that was a steep price in fantasy, that was, and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
It was just it just I don't know, man, That's
where I am. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
I'm open to him being good, but I got to
see it first.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
We haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 11 (01:18:20):
Yeah, all right, Well, next up, how about Travis Hunter
succeeding as a two way NFL player and becoming football's
version of Otani.

Speaker 10 (01:18:27):
Mark buying or selling.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Well, I'll buy it until you put the Otani part in.
He's not like I'll buy him being successful on both
sides of the ball. I Am not going to buy
him becoming the best player in the sport and becoming
an icon and having an interpreter.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Sent to prison. None of those things are going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I sorry anyway, but no, I do buy that he's
going to play well on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
I'm buying. I'm buying because it also depends on what
your definition of winning is in terms of is it
a thousand yards and seven interceptions? And I think he
can play both at a high level. Well, I don't

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think he is going to have fifteen hundred yards and
twelve touchdowns and nine picks and this and that, but
I think he can. For the Jacksonville Jaguars think he
is a dynamic player and they need him on both
sides of the ball.

Speaker 11 (01:19:30):
All right, how about Mike Evans keeping his one thousand
yard streak alive. Remember he's had it every season in
the NFL, and he just barely got it last year.

Speaker 10 (01:19:39):
From you buying or selling it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
I'm selling, and I love Mike and I love what
Baker's doing the resurgence, but man, he barely got that
thing last last year, and as you get older, we
know more injuries. I think he's their number one target.
It just is going to be extremely difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I hate to agree with you again, but yeah, I
must sell Boomy, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
I must sell. They had to sort of rig that
thing last year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
They start throwing the ball to him on every single
down in order to get him past it last year.
I think, uh, you know, uh Ibuka, this rookie is real,
real interesting. They've got the ball. They got to spread
the ball around a little bit there. I think Mike
Evans will be fine to have a good year, but
I'm gonna go under nine ninety nine and a half

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yards on Mike Evans.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Hey, Ian, did you have a few more I do?

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
If you want to come back, we'll come starting off
with that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
We'll come back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Yeah, Like we're not done. We got like, let's go.
We're going into our final hour and we got plenty
of times. So a little more on that coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
You're listening to Fox Sports radio radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
I mean, we've only got four hours of radio left
talking about holdouts and cuts and rumor, and then you
went at four hours, we got this one, we got
three next week. Then after that we're gonna be reacting
to football games. So that's what we're getting ready for
here on Fox Sports Radio broadcasting live in these Fox

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Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Glad you are with us tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
We will get back to buy or sell because there's
plenty of meat still on that bone in just a second.
But I know, I know a little bit about your process,
your Sunday process.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Your boys aren't all that into it, are they.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
You know what the funny thing is, I my fourteen
year old, he has some questions about football out the blue,
and I was like, oh, when like this week, this
is the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Dang uh oh.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
So he's in high school now. So his thing is
he wants to have up the high school experience. He
wants to go to the football games and the dances
and the basketball games. So I sat them down, we
started watching games, and he's learning the positions and and

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all of that. So we've been watching preseason games together
and and and talking about it. It's been great. Like
it's always been basketball or baseball in our family, and
I just watch football because the kids can't play football.
So it's been nice to actually sit down with both
my boys and watch football. My youngest son's been playing Madden. Hey,

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so hmm okay, my wife is like you, just so
you know this day, still not playing, Just so you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
You've always told me that you told them you played
so that I wouldn't have to. Yeah, you've always told
me that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Yep, that's the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Okay, okay, but will you have guests your dead? Oh
no on Sunday? No?

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
No, no, no, no, no no no guess Okay, what time
do you get up on Sundays?

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
If there is a early game?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
No no, no London game, no, no, none of that. Just
regular starting at ten am Pacific time. I get up
at nine, you'll get up till nine.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
I'll get up to nine.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
I wish I could do that. Well, sounds fun, but
why what's up? No? I'm just I'm very very wired
like a morning person.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
I am too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I could not sleep or stay in the bed until
nine o'clock. To me, that feels like half the day
is gone.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Now. Normally I'm up at seven, okay, just in general. Yep,
so my body will get up at seven. But if
I don't get up and lay there, I can. I can,
and and it Saturday nights always the key to stay
up a little bit later and trust me, you will
sleep in a little bit longer.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Yeah. I just I'm not wired that way.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
I get it. It just I'm always up to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
I'm going to be up. I'm gonna be up, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
Up to, like I always take the kids to school. Yeah,
because my wife feels bad. I'm like, I'm up already.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
I'm here.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Like your seven alarms that are going off from six
thirty to seven, literally seven six thirty six thirty three.

Speaker 10 (01:24:22):
I'm a multiple alarm guys.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I hate Yeah, but but Ian like who you live with?

Speaker 11 (01:24:28):
He no, yeah, of course, Like it's I wouldn't do
it if someone else, you know, it was affecting someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
But multiple alarm people, if you live with other people,
you're not allowed to be a multiple alarm person.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
Shame on you.

Speaker 10 (01:24:40):
They need discipline, that's serious.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Shame on you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
One. I have one alarm, man, I'm usually up before
it goes off. As soon as it goes off, I
get I hit it, and I'm up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
I do not like ever, I never make it to
my alarm.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I am living proof of that thing that people say,
which is if you're like I want to be up
in six thirty, then your body's like it's six twenty four,
It's time to get up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
And I like every single time, I never make it
to my alarm.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
And the crazy part is I get up and turn
the thing off so fast so I don't wake her up,
But yet I have to go through a bevy of
and her My alarm is intrusive, like an alarm is
supposed to be. Hers is peaceful. It's like a rolling sound.

Speaker 10 (01:25:23):
That bills waking up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
And I'm like, right, this is this is too soothing? Yeah,
like it need to be like get up, mother, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
You're you're a oh my god, you probably just gave
them my heart attack.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
No, yeah, I've been doing this a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
That that that alarm needs to sound.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
It needs to sound like somebody just gave you the
ice bucket challenge.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Yes, like that's like up here, we like now.

Speaker 10 (01:25:49):
Yeah, it sounds like hers would put me back.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
To sleep, exactly, But that's the problem, and keep putting
her back to sleep and when on her days to
get up and take the kid. I'm like, I mean,
you've woke me up six times in a row, so
I'm up now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
So she'll come back and she'll be like, oh you're up.
I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I've just had it sort of like pounded into me
that Sunday morning. The earlier I can get up, the
better because whatever it is that might need my attention
has to be done before ten. So I just get
up because I'm like, right, I'm right looking around at everybody,

(01:26:37):
I'm like, you'll need groceries?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Hey, dog, do you need to run? What are we doing?
What is everybody? Do we have laundry? What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Because whatever we're doing, if you need me, it's done
at nine p fifty nine. So I'm not gonna sleep
till nine. I'm gonna get out of bed at seven o'clock.
We're gonna dog start running kids, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
What are we doing? All we gotta go? No, But
it's all very very selfish. It's all actually selfish.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
It's not because I'm like, whoa, let's be a go
get her on a Sunday morning, it's because don't ask
me at ten oh one unavailable.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
You know my setup. I'm down, I'm loaded up, and
I'm just watching, watching a nice little breakfast. If I
get up at nine and you know, I check my
lineups for my fantasy football, make sure everything's okay, get
myself a little breakfast, make some coffee for the house,

(01:27:41):
set up my tea, bring the other TV out, set
it up, make sure everything is working right, volumes and
all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
By then it's like about nine forty five ish.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Right then I'll go, you know, put some clothes on
stretch because then I know, you know, like right after
those second games, I'm out the house, uh, to the
stage for us to do our show. So I like
to be prepared because there's no stop in the action,
like when first games go off, the second games are on,
and sometimes they come on before. So everything is is

(01:28:14):
it's structured. It's like when I played, I did every
every home game and every road game. I would have
a routine that I would do and you just stick
to it. That's that's what it is during football season. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Speaking of stick to it, we promised that we would
stick to buy or sell. Uh, And there is more
meat on the bone. Let's get that wet more. We
got more stuff from from producer Ian Roddy as we
welcome him back into the fold here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 11 (01:28:43):
All right, so yeah, let's uh, let's move on. So
next up, I'm gonna ask you, guys, what do you
think buy or sell on Ashton Genty rookie sensation potentially
hitting a thousand rushing yards as a rookie Mark.

Speaker 10 (01:28:54):
We'll start with you this time.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
What do you think I'm gonna buy?

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
But I'm also going to admit that I've done a
lot little bit of an about face on this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Just in the last sort of week and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
To me, Ashton Genty was this year's Marvin Harrison junior,
and I was just like, I'm gonna buy this when
I see it. I had heard some reports out of
Raiders camp that it was gonna take a minute for
him to kind of get all the carries.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
And then I watched a couple of Raided preseason.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Games and dude is trucking people, tr rucking people, and
I'm a buyer on that offense. I think the Raiders
are gonna be a little bit better than they've been
this year. I'll buy.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
I'm definitely buying. He is a problem. He is a
low he is my man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
We want to running people over.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
And with Gino there, Pete Carroll, I think their offense
is going to be formidable. I think the fact that
you have Gino there is going to not allow teams
to stack the box and try to take away that
run game. And I think it's going to be a
marriage between the play action and the actual running game.

(01:30:06):
When I was a rookie, we had a running back
named Jamal Anderson. And when we put install in and
we were predominantly running team, even though we had two
thousand yard receivers and Terrence Matthis and Tony Martin, Jamal
would say, Hey, don't worry about the safeties. I got him, y'all.
Just take care of you who y'all can tell anybody else,

(01:30:26):
don't worry about them. I got him. And asking gent
reminds me of that type of running back.

Speaker 11 (01:30:35):
High praise, high praise. Moving on next, I'm gonna say Romadonza.
Now I had this written as bounced back a year,
but you know what, talk there.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
They gotta bounce first.

Speaker 11 (01:30:48):
They actually just go somewhere first. So we'll call it
a Roma Dunes breakout season. Do you see that happening
by or Cell and will start with you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
Where's it Chicago? That's the number, that's the number two
in Chicago. You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Yes, I'm I'm buying all I'm buying. I think Ben Johnson,
I believe in Ben quiet as kep. Caleb Williams has
looked okay in these preseason In the preseason game he played,
I think the structure is going to be extremely h

(01:31:29):
well needed and and and it's it's in uh Chicago
because it was just a mess. And I think bringing
that level of attention to detail and structure into that
quarterback room and into that locker room is gonna bowl
well for Rome.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
I sell. I'm gonna sell on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Yeah, I'm sorry, because to find breakout are we talking
a thousand yards?

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
Like? What are we?

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
What are we looking at on a roll of doings?
A breakout season? I really like the player. I watched
him at Washington a lot. But they've got another rookie
who they supposedly like, and Luther Burden and DJ Moore
is still there, and yes, Ben Jonson nice I think
Caleb will be better. But the idea of a breakout.

(01:32:15):
I just I like, that's still Chicago. It's still gonna
be some cold weather games. It's still a young quarterback
who hasn't proven it. So I like romadons A, but
I'm gonna fall short of the word breakout.

Speaker 10 (01:32:30):
Yeah, and on.

Speaker 11 (01:32:31):
On top of those targets you mentioned, there's also Colston Loveland,
a top ten pick.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Yep, yep, for sure out.

Speaker 11 (01:32:38):
Next up Mike Tomlin keeping his over five hundred streak alive.

Speaker 10 (01:32:43):
Do you think Mark Buyer sell.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Let's see, I I know right, I'm gonna buy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
I'm gonna buy. I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I'm pulling up this the the Steelers schedule, and it's
a little back and forth. It's not like a murderer's role.
But obviously that's a very difficult division. I also see
Buffalo and Detroit and the Chargers and others green Bay
on that schedule, tough teams. But look in theory, even

(01:33:19):
though he's too old, he is a better arm than
they've had there in a while, and so they're still
going to have a good defense, and I think that
they can.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Grind out nine wins. So I'll buy.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
I'm buying. I mean, essentially, I would think they got
better at quarterback, and with no quarterbacks and Ben Roethlisberger,
that's what they've been. So it'd be crazy to sell
when they have a first ballot Hall of Famer in
any capacity. I think, look what they did with Russell

(01:33:55):
and Justin Fields last year. With that, with the addition
of DK Metcalf, I'm buying.

Speaker 10 (01:34:07):
All right, let's go. Let's go one more here.

Speaker 11 (01:34:09):
Abdul Carter rookie for the Giants getting at least six
sacks as a rookie.

Speaker 10 (01:34:14):
Buy or sell you from?

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Oh, I'm buying. I'm buying. I think he's going to
pop up on people like his number sake and at
Penn State Michael Parsons did. I think they're cut from
the same type of cloth. Very very difficult on the

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edge for tackles to rush, and then you can move
him around. He's a nightmare for guards and centers to
try to block. So six sacks in seventeen weeks, I'm
going the over on that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
So I'm buying. Yep, I'm gonna do the same. I'm
gonna I'm gonna buy on that one. He gets to
play Dak Prescott twice, so you know there's four right there. No,
I just think very very talented player, and you know
the division that he's in. Those are those are good quarterbacks,
but they are also guys that at times are moving

(01:35:09):
around a lot that can lead to sacks. I just
believe in the player, and I think that that's a
that's a pretty pretty low bar.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
Essentially one sack every three weeks. I think he can
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
All right.

Speaker 10 (01:35:18):
If I had said, say, eight sacks as a rookie,
would you I'm still.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Say I probably still would. Yeah, probably still would.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
I'm still yep.

Speaker 10 (01:35:26):
All right, good stuff, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Awesome and thanks. All right.

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that's it from salam Okay, So what did you think
about kickers?

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Exactly? Hit me? What just went through your mind? Ah?

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
The kicker?

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Uh huh mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
Uh. They're yes, they're valuable.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good answer for like family feud.
They got one job, but they do do.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
That job because they don't have the rigors that all
the other players have. This is this is the this
is what draws the line. Right, like when training camp.
We're in training camp, we're in the actual training camp.
Then they're in you know what the other guess what.
You can only punt or kick field goals so long, right,

(01:37:23):
So you can practice and do that, but you can't
wear your leg out. So if our practice is an
hour and a half, twenty minutes, they're practicing, and then
they're just hanging out playing hacky sack or trying to
kick the ball and hit the upright or try to
throw it into the trash can thirty yards away and

(01:37:48):
then you hit That's the special teams meeting is the
first meeting. So once that's over, they're done, they can
go home. Well, we're there for another hour and a
half in meetings to do a team meeting, then we
have to do offensive defensive meeting, then we have to
do individual meetings. So when we get out, they've been

(01:38:12):
at home for two hours. Then Sunday rolls around and
we've just gone on a twelve play, eighty five yard
drive in a minute twenty two seconds to score, and
now we need the extra point to win, and that

(01:38:34):
thing is kicked into the concession stand or we've driven
down the court that the field excuse me, with thirteen
seconds left right in position, and just think if remember
Patrick Mahomes beat Buffalo with thirteen seconds left on the

(01:38:59):
class What if the kicker, what if you missed that?
This is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
What if he missed right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
That's why when you say kickers, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Like, well, that's why I like, my man, you're nailing it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Like one of the stupidest things I hate in sports
when we talk about quarterbacks and their game winning drives,
I'm like, what about when the when they got you
to a forty one yard field goal and then the
dude hooked it did the quarterback did the same thing
quarterbacks did.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
So, I've never seen in sports a better setup of
having essentially kind of like the nerd and the captain
of the football team in high school set up where
it's just like this person is literally there solely to do,

(01:39:51):
but that thing has nothing to do with what the
rest of you all are doing, and therefore if you
don't do it, everybody wants to hang you by your papault, right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
Anyway, and they're the only position when things go wrong,
you can't say anything to him, right, I remember we
talked about that last year where why can't I remember
the team where somebody chin checked his kicker because he
was missing?

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Oh right, oh debo.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Deebo got in to a fight with the long snappers
because he ran up to the kicker.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
And where it is, dude, what are you doing your
damn thing?

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
And then the long snappers like, I'm not stand up
for my guy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
And Kyle Shanahan's like I don't need a long snapper
standing up to one like a twenty eight million dollar receiver.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
But at the same time, Deeba wasn't doing his job
last year either.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Everything got all messed up, and you just tapped in
on exactly why I'm asking that kicker. That kicker last
year had a horrible second half of the year. He
was in and out of being injured all year, and
so they kind of used it as an offseason excuse.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
Well, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Bad, but everything was going sideways and he was hurt
and the Niners were bad, and Deebo was mad and
just like, give us another chance because he's a third
round draft pick from two years ago, which begs a
question in and of itself, right, So they come back
this year, they bring in another kicker to compete with

(01:41:24):
him in camp, and they're both kicking really well, and
all of a sudden they cut the other guy because
they're like, we need the roster spot because of all
the other injuries. And then don't worry about it, because
kickers are always kicking for their jobs. Anyway, We can
call anybody back in anytime. Okay, everybody accepts that answer.
Then Jake Moody goes out against the Raiders and he.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Misses a fifty three yarder. Okay, that's a long kick.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
In a dome, I know, And then he makes twenty
seven yard kick an inch inside the left op right,
but then at the buzzer he kicks a fifty eight yard.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
Er to win. Everybody that you don't want to be ride.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Everybody storms the field, and I'm like, why are you
storming the field? This very much feels like this is
like an episode of Rudy. Why are we all set?
He made a kick, but there was something else there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
Right, it was like, oh yay, he's like gonna be
here another week.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
So then all of a sudden they're like, boy, that
what a performance by by Jake Moody. Right, the man
came out last night. The Niners go up six to
nothing and the dude hooks the ball not even close
on the extra point.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
I tweet that's it. We're done here. We're done here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Then they score again later in the game, he kicks
the extra point, it goes through.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
He gets a Bronx cheer from the crowd, the home crowd.
He made an extra point.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
I was like, okay, cool, Jake Moody make an extra point.
The ensuing kickoff goes out of bounds.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
It's just getting worse.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Kyle Shanihan after the game is like, I don't know
what you guys are all mad about. Like he had
one of the best games I've ever seen a kicker
have last week. I'm like, excuse me, followed by sure
he missed the extra point. We don't like that, but
you know, we'll see during the season how it's going
during I'm sorry, during the what you're bringing him with

(01:43:38):
you to Seattle?

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
He from help me? I'm not wrong, right, they got it.
This is over. It's over.

Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
What you can't have is the inconsistency in the kicking game.
That's a recipe for a disaster. That's what you don't want.
You don't want to live. You don't want to live
with you. Oh no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Yea, yeah, well okay, I just want to check and
make sure that I wasn't. You know, no, because you
represent what I know his teammates are saying when they
get home.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
Of course, right, you gotta go.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Kicker.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
Not everyone can have an automatic kicker like we do.
And that's why we're gonna kick it over to Steve
to sega my man.

Speaker 9 (01:44:34):
I will add as far as the kickoffs that you
briefly mentioned there that in that game last night there
were twelve total kickoffs and only two touchbacks. So they
put the new formation the NFL in last year, and
we didn't get more returns. But too many coaches were
still okay with the ball coming out to the thirties,

(01:44:55):
so they change it. The ball comes out to the
thirty five. Problem is, as you mentioned, if you kick
it out of bounds, now a drive is starting at
the forty yard line. You've just spent this conversation saying
how many fifty and sixty yard field goals there are.
Now pretty soon you're going to get one first down
and points off twenty fives. Going that Jacksonville Gat hit

(01:45:17):
a seventy yarder already in the preseason. He would have
been good from close to seventy in their game this weekend.
It's really amazing to see Minnesota Vikings signed veteran quarterback
Carson Wentz. The Browns release quarterback Tyler Huntley. Raiders backup
qb Aiden O'Connell will miss six to eight weeks with
a broken wrist. Tampa Bay Waves safety Shiloh Sanders, who

(01:45:37):
got kicked out of last night's exhibition. Dallas defensive back
Trayvon Diggs after knee surgery last January, was placed on
the active roster today after passing his physical. The Cowboys
are reportedly cutting veteran offensive lineman Lyle Collins. The league's
regular season opener, Dallas at Philadelphia is Thursday, September fourth.
The NFL's cutdown deadline is Tuesday afternoon. To get the

(01:45:59):
rass down to fifty three. The Jets of wave quarterback
Adrian Martinez. The Rams cut quarterback Dresser win. In Major
League Baseball tonight, the Yankees were seven two winners over Boston,
two homers each for Jazz Chisholm and Trent Grisham. San
Francisco with two in the top of the ninth one
four to three at Milwaukee, beating Brewers closer Trevor McGill.
The Cubs won four to three at the Angels. The

(01:46:22):
Dodgers and Padres are tied for first again in the
NL West. LA show he Otani it is forty fifth homer.
Dodgers won eight two at San Diego, Seattle eleven to
four over the A's cal Rale of the Mariners two homers,
he has forty nine. That's the most ever for a
catcher in one season victories for Cincinnati, Baltimore and Tampa Bay.
Atlanta beat the Mets for to three. The Mets will

(01:46:43):
be hosting the Phillies starting Monday night, a three game series.
Phillies won at home today three to two over Washington.
The win to Ranger Suarez eleven strikeouts in his seven
scoreless innings, and Pittsburgh shutout Colorado for nothing. The Rockies
thirty seven and ninety four. They've lost four straight than
they are mathematically eliminated from the playoff chase. At the

(01:47:04):
Little League World Series, Taiwan won the championship game seven
to nothing over Nevada WNBA. With three games victories for Seattle,
Golden State and Minnesota now thirty and seven beat Indiana
tonight ninety seven eighty four. Caitlin Clark still out with injury,
but all starting a feast of Collier returned after missing
seven games with the sprained ankle. She had thirty two points.

(01:47:25):
The IndyCar race went to Christian Rasmussen in Milwaukee. The
US Open Tennis tournament began today in New York. American
Ben Shelton won his first round match and no out
of golf with a bit of a detail for the
final final time this year, if you can believe this,
Tommy Fleetwood won the PGA's Tour Championship and a decent

(01:47:45):
first place check. Patrick Candley from UCLA was tied for
the lead to start the day, finish three strokes back,
tied for second with fellow American Russell Henley. In the
end in Atlanta today, Scottie Scheffler was four back. He
tied for fourth place. It is his fourteenth consecutive top
ten finish that ties for the longest set streak in
the last fifty years with Jack Nicholas nineteen seventy seven,

(01:48:08):
but there still hasn't been a repeat FedEx Cup champion
since this series began almost twenty years ago. For Fleetwood,
his first victory on the PGA Tour in his one
hundred and sixty fourth career start on tour. He has
won seven times on the dp World Tour three other
times around the world, but Fleetwood's thirty top five finishes

(01:48:28):
without a victory were the most on the PGA Tour
in the last one hundred years. Apparently, this is a guy,
before you feel too bad, who had earned over thirty
three million dollars in career earnings and never actually the
trophy at a PGA event until today. Well, he got
not just a trophy. You see, it's pretty large purses

(01:48:49):
for the PGA Playoffs. Throughout the month of August, we
talk about how there's always a twenty million dollar perse
for Live Golf events. That is just a whopping total.
Every PGA playoff event had at least a twenty million
dollar perse, and for the finale at Atlanta, it was
a forty million dollar perse today. So the winner, Tommy Fleetwood,

(01:49:09):
takes home ten million dollars today. Hey, and the two
guys that tied for second four point three five million each,
Scottie Scheffler and two others for tying for fourth place
two point six million dollars each. Even the two golfers
that tied for seventeenth place, I'm talking about you, Harry Hall,

(01:49:33):
he can expect to check for close to a half
a million dollars because of his finish today. I repeat,
that's a tie for seventeenth. In the Tour Championship. Live
Golf's individual awards were handed out last week. They finished
up their tour season with the team championship in Michigan today.
John Rahm had won the individual points title last week.

(01:49:55):
His team champions of the Live Golf League. Today, he
and a teammate with Berdie. The second playoff hole wound
up beating Bryson to Shambo's team. The team four golfers.
They split fourteen million dollars today for taking the weekend
team title. The runners up will be splitting eight million dollars.
That is quick math, two million dollars each for not winning.

(01:50:19):
Bryson to Shambo's team and again. John Ram already won
the individual points title again last week. That comes with
a bonus of eighteen million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
Oh my yeah, back to you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
I don't even know how that thing works, do you
know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (01:50:39):
Like, I don't even know you add up the scores
of the four golf.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
All right, but that's like who's doing that? Like I'm not.
Is there an app where you're you know, Like I
don't how are we?

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
I don't want that feels like the grocery store. You
know how we all work at the grocery store now,
Like I don't want to have to work that hard
to find out who's win eighteen million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
That's annoying.

Speaker 9 (01:51:03):
Somewhere. Verne Lundquist is carrying the two in an.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Exactly very good, very good uh Steve awesome as always,
as always, as always, you know what we should add up?
How many millions of dollars Steve has talked to us
about at seven thirty Pacific.

Speaker 9 (01:51:22):
That would be depressing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
We had a billion yet gotta be close to a
billion dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:51:28):
Considering every live golf winner gets four right million just
for the regular events.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
But then we got the escalators and the team, and
then the PGA and.

Speaker 9 (01:51:38):
The majors, you know, and the majors look at the
PGA persons that have gone up because I I don't know,
maybe the good old American ideal of competition.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Just a thought, just a thought, yeah, just a thought.
It's definitely into nine figures. I don't know if we've
reached ten figures, but it's in the nine way into
nine figures, all right, Steve, thank you, thank you very
very much.

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
Yes, it's crazy, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
I mean we were having some fun with Kickers a
second ago. Is there any sport that has more like nondescript,
non famous, non winning, but jillionaires.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Than golf? At least one of the four majors.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Every year, somebody's leading on Sunday and they're like, no, no, no,
this guy's like he's like the eleventh ranks golfer in
the world, and golf people are like, I've never heard
of him. I've never heard of him ever and possibly
never will again.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
All right, Uh, we are live in the Fox Sports
Radio studios and we are not quite done yet. That's
e from Salama, Mark Whetherd and this is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
These are the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
That's he from Salama, Mark Weather Planking Spaniard right around
the corner, an exhausted Artie Spaniard. After I had to
I had to take them to school a few times
last night, had to, uh, you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
Know, explain some things.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Give me the NFL team that you're kind of like
you excited about, but they're not supposed to they're not
supposed to be good, but you think maybe they will be.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
I haven't gotten there yet. There yet.

Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
No, no, no, no, but let me think about it. I
haven't gotten there yet.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
What you know what? You know what? Okay, I got one,
got one.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
Yeah, And it pains me to say this because, uh,
as a former Bronco, it's just never been you know,
my cup of tea. And that's the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Yeah, they're my they're my one A. They're not my team.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
But I but I hear you, I'm I'm obsessed with
that division.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Yeah, holy that thing is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
The four coaches that are in there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
I know Jim Harbo doesn't have a super Bowl but
n's Yeah, these are championship level coaches, all four of them.
And yeah, I mean I still think they've got the
fourth best quarterback in the division, but they finally have
somebody who will move the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
Yeah, all of the coaches have gone to Super Bowls. Yep,
so I think and and all the teams have quarterbacks, right,
So I think the Raiders possibly will be overlooked because
Gino doesn't stack up to the others. But I don't know, man,

(01:55:04):
It's just something about being able to control the game
and run the ball. And you know, had an opportunity
to meet Max Crosby this summer. Outstanding young man outside
of being a tremendous player, so you know, and look,
as a former Denver bronco, it pains me to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Will it make you feel better if I tell you that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Like, I kind of I agree with you, But I
also I'm picking Denver to win that division.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
That's a good pick.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
I'm picking Denver to win that division Alreadie kept asking me,
are the Chiefs not in the division anymore? I said,
I'm picking Denver to win the division.

Speaker 4 (01:55:49):
I couldn't even argue with that pick. It's funny how
we both stayed in the same division.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Yeah, well except for that, that's not my like. I actually,
what's your Denver? I think Denver's got a little juice.
I think they do.

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
They got the rosters in the.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Best defense in football, I think, or at least one
of them, and and you know they they made noise
last year.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
So, but how do you feel about New England? That's
a wild card, That's that's a good pick. Tender, that's
a good pick the New England Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
Because, look, I'm a fan of Mike Rabel yep Rabel
and and Drake May is interesting to me.

Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
Yeah, like when once you once they stopped messing around
with the coaching staff and the draft picks and all
of that and got you know, it takes a minute
to get reacclimated to losing one of the greatest players
to ever play. So once that guy goes away from
the franchise, you've been so heavily dependent on him for
twenty plus years. There's gonna be some time where it's like,

(01:56:50):
maybe we don't know what we're doing, you know. It
was a little bit of that going on. And and
I think now having might come in and and and
reintroduce that culture, I think it's gonna bold well for them.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
I'm with you, yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
And then now flip side, everybody thinks they're going to
the playoffs, but you don't.

Speaker 9 (01:57:19):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:57:21):
I would have to say, Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Man, we've been doing this show together through all we've
been doing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
Were we need we might need a break, we might
need a break.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
We own it, right, We own it, man, Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
I don't listen. I put no stock in the preseason,
really literally nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Except for maybe like these little pockets and windows and
plays and uh, something doesn't feel right, man, and something
it doesn't look right. Something, something's not right in Green Bay.
And I just got a bad feeling about Jordan Love
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
Me too. I was never really sold on Jordan Love
just really, to be honest. Yeah, he had really good
half a year, really good half a year, but then

(01:58:25):
I don't know, man, it's just it's not it's not
glaringly optimistic based on what what what he's done. So like,
so I'm I'm looking like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Is he that guy? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:58:41):
I mean so, I don't know if he's that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:58:44):
Yeah, I mean, you're You're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
You get a you get a bunch of like a
handful of good games that make the stats look right.
They were a good football team, there's no doubt. Like,
there's no doubt they were very very good football team.
And you know, and then they get of the playoffs
and and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
But it's just mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Yeah, something something feels off to me when I watch
them play now, and they do have you know, they've
got a bunch of injuries right now. In theory that'll
get better, But I don't like some of the things
they did in free agency. They overpaid for an offensive lineman.
I don't know, man, it's just a it all adds

(01:59:25):
up and I'm like, geez, the hard division, I could
I could see that. I think they're gonna be no
better than third place in that division this year.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
Yeah, I can see that. I definitely can see that.

Speaker 8 (01:59:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
I got one more fun one last year on the
way out the door. What what team does Kirk Cousins finished.

Speaker 3 (01:59:45):
The year with.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
All right, now I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Well, I have three there's all I see. I see
three candidates. But that that's the way.

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
Yes, yes, man, If two it gets hurt, right, Hey,
we locked in. This is what happens. I mean, this
is what happens the Jets.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
The Jets and the Colts are the only two other
teams I can even think of.

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
But yeah, I think we need to go. I think
it's time for everybody to go to bed.

Speaker 4 (02:00:15):
Let's go to sleep.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
Yeah, yeah we do.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
We are gonna do one more show before we got
actual NFL games, But right now we're gonna go to sleep.
Thank you all for being with us tonight for Ephram Salam.
I'm Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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