Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Discuss Titans Upsetting The Cardinals, The Legend Of The Bell Cow, Eagles Offensive Problems, 49ers QB Controversy, And More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Week five in the National Football League, along with my

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man Eat from Salama, Mark Willard. Good evening, good late evening,
early evening, or aloha to those of you who are
just getting to mid afternoon. Thank you for being with
us wherever you are. Hello, my man, how are we
doing tonight? I'm doing good man. How you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm doing fantastic. You played in the league.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So it is one of those cliches that people who
were in the league try to tell people who are
not in the league every week for the rest of
our lives, and we never listen, and we never ever
ever seem to actually absorb this idea, and in fact,
it's probably true about some people in the league as well.

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I don't remember the name of the player, was a
young player on the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
After they went to and oh remember their their start.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
They had two really good teams come to Lambeau, Detroit
and Washington. Green Bay beat him, and one of the
young players on the Packers was caught on an open
mic saying, I honestly think we have what it takes
to go undefeated. I do, we could go undefeat. They
were two and oh and what happened The very next week?

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They lost to the Cleveland Browns, and the head coach,
Matt Laflora, goes, I try to tell them this every week,
but apparently I'm not saying it loud enough. It is
a week to week league, and I am blown away
every time you and I get together at five o'clock
Pacific on a Sunday night. When I look at the

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gap the difference in the NFL between good and bad,
it's about an inch. That's what I've decided. It's about
an inch. And I know you well. We got examples
of teams that really suck in teams that are really good,
and I get it. But right now it's possible that
three hours from now, from four and one is going

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to be the best record in the NFL. There's only
one unbeaten team left. They're about to play the Bills.
So four and one is really, really good right, Oh yeah,
the Tampa Bay box are forour and one. They have
outscored their opponents by three points collectively. In other words,

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as they grabbed the ball in Seattle about a half
hour ago, they were dead even with their opponents for
the year, and then they drove down and kicked a
field goal and their for and one. Meantime, San Francisco
forty nine ers Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Introducing each other each week.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
To one another in the huddle, and they've outscored their
opponents by eight eight points. Also form one. Also form
one and one play here or there is the difference
right now between what feels like maybe a good year
and a bad year to this point.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
At least crazy.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Uh can we say a year of parody?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
It feels like that doesn't And I know.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
The NFL loves it. Oh hell yeah, they love it
because they're you gotta tune in, you gotta watch. I mean,
even teams at the bottom of this thing can pop
their heads up for air and and give you a game. Huh. Saints, Titans,

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Hello Titans. Hello, We're still waiting for the Jets to
pop up.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But you know, well, yes, did the Cardinals just go
scoreless in the second half.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Did I did that happen?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Didn't score in the second half of that football game,
and they allowed the Titans to score sixteen in the
fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
That was just wild. Explain it to me, man, I.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Look, I there's a lot of youth in the league.
The league's turnover for younger players is greater than ever,
which you get, and so there's a lot of young
coaches as well. And it's sometimes it's a situation where

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you know, it's the league has changed so much, so
fast the last couple of years, where it feels like
the formula for winning has changed.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
People start relying heavily more on analytics right now, more
than ever. You're going forward on fourth down. No matter
where you are, it was you could you wouldn't even
imagine going forward in your own territory. Ever, on fourth

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people are doing it. It's fourth and three. It's not
even fourth and inches, it's fourth and three.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Other people are doing stuff that I would love to
do a documentary, and right on, what were you thinking?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Explain it to me? That's all Like, I'm open minded,
and I think, go on.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think that's why things are the way they are.
Decisions are being made based on something other than real like,
this is the tangible experience of this is how we do,
this is what you do. So now there's so many
different variables on why you should do something, and coaching

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are are are doubling down on those decisions. And we've
seen coaches coach themselves out of wins. We've seen decisions
being made that lose games. I mean, Brandon Staley made
a career out of it.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
And so when you're looking at it, used to be
we're going to put our team in the best position
to win. Then Dan Campbell stormed through the league and
an unorthodox way and they begin to win. So people start, well,
maybe we can do that. But you know, they have

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one of the best offensive lines in the league. They
have one of the top two receivers in the league.
They have a quarterback who has a career of winning.
They have like, they have pieces to take chances. The
problem is when teams don't have pieces and they start
doing things like that, Oh that's a disaster. Oh that's
a disaster. What works for them does not work for you.

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And so there's a lot of there's a lot of
that to me that's going around and so it kind
of thrown the whole access off off kilter a little bit,
if that makes sense. It's wide open up. You could
do anything. It's wide open.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I'll tell you what I mean this thing.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
So like just about everybody in the NFC has a
team atop the division at four and one. As you said,
the two teams I just highlighted have barely outscored their opponents.
The Niners have barely been able to roster a team.
I Yet these two teams are four and one. There's
a division in the NFL where everyone has outscored their opponents.

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There's a division in the NFL where no one has
outscored their opponents. These things are all just kind of
fun little factoids. But I tell you what, for those
of you who, and I know it's most of you,
if you play fantasy football three thirty Pacific, six thirty
in the East, that's not enough. You're gonna have to

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make it all the way to the end. Because I
don't know what it is. Why does it it gets
drunk for the last thirty five minutes of those afternoon games.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
It is.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I don't know why what the hell happened today?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
It felt like if I like you about eight guys
that scored eight touchdowns each all in the second half
of these games. Today meantime, I mean, we probably need
to do a deeper dive on what just happened, specifically
to the Arizona Cardinals in the second half of that game,
because I mean, it almost feels like the fix was

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in the way that they lost that football game. And
are you telling me that two weeks in a row
somebody has let go of the ball at the one
inch line on their way into the end zone. Did
that actually happen again after it just happened last week?
Just incredible, an incredible comedy of errors in order uh

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to make that thing happen.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So Fantasy Survivor pools, get the hell out of here.
I don't like, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I have no idea because I'm getting text messages and
here's one thing I want to throw at you. Buddy
of mine just said to me an hour ago, Ravens
are done. And my first thought was, oh, like hell
they are? Where do you stand on that? The Ravens
are one and four? You think they're done?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Not in that division, not even close, Not in that division.
I think the Ravens are struggling well, but you're going
to struggle when your whole defense is not healthy and
it wasn't good one it wasn't good when they were.

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And the one or two best player in the entire
league is an ev available. When your team is built
around the one or two best player in the league
and he's not available, that means that player carries a
large burden and a large portion of why you're successful.

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And when that's gone, there is no backup that can
come in and do that. And case in point, when
you look at someone like you look at someone like
the Niners. Are you looking at someone like the Vikings?
Are you right? Their system is built around taking quality

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players and putting them in the right position. So when
one goes down, when your starting quarterback goes down, and
you have a viable backup, they can come in and
have success because the system is made for that success.
And so when your system like a Baltimore, when your

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system like a Buffalo, when your system like a Philly,
when your system is built around someone being spectacular, you
don't have two spectacular players on your team at one position,

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And so that's when you find the drop off. And
that drop off is steep, it's step. It's no way
Cooper Rush could almost be in a position to help
this Baltimore team. It's just impossible because the team offensively

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isn't set up for the reason Dereck Henry is Derek
Henry is because oh you have to watch out full
Lamar Jackson as well. When he's not there. Derek Henry,
he has fifteen carries for thirty three yards, and that's
two point two yards to carry. That's why, because their

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systems are set up around the greatness of that player.
If Josh Allen is playing is not playing for Buffalo,
you think Buffalo looks like they look.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
No, most definitely not. No, most definitely not.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
However, and I know that these things are complementary and
all of these things work together. But that defense also
missing a bunch of people. I understand also missing a
bunch of people. But we were talking about that defense
when they were healthy. They're just giving up buckets of
points every week.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
But the difference was they were in games because.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yes, because of Lamarge, that's it.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
And now that's gone.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
But the point remains that we have become conditioned to
know that the Baltimore Ravens are gonna put together a defense,
especially in their building. They're gonna make you come in
and earn things. That group today, I think revitalized C. J.
Stroud's career. He barely threw an incomplete pass the entire day.

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So I I don't know, man, I I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I don't know what's going on there.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
But that division is so crazy and so bad up
in a weak and yeah with Burrow and Lamar both
heard at the same time.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm not even close to willing to be ready to
write them off for the season after week five.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
No no, no, no no, because eventually he comes back
and then you look at their record.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So say they have a.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
They have a buye right or do they have a
buy coming out.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
The Ravens, No, Ravens, Yeah, the Rams are coming, but
then they have and then they have a buy or
do they do?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
They know they have a buye. They have a buye
but coming under the bye with a healthy Lamar and
then they'll get They have the Bears, the Ravens, the Vikings,
the Browns, the Jets.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yep, the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Say that again. Listen to what happens when they come
out of their by. Let's go ahead and say they
lose to the Rams and they're one and five, yep,
and everyone's gonna go well, that's the end of that.
Make it a bye, and then Lamar Jackson comes back
and listen to the next six football games. Bears Ravens
will play Bears, Dolphins, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, and Bengals

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seven and five, just like that. Seven and five. I
mean maybe not but six and six. Maybe maybe seven
and five.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's right there. I mean, that is bad.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Really bad, laughable, even worse. I mean, it's literally the
list of teams you want to play. By the way,
it doesn't get crazy at all the rest of the way.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
They get through that, and then they have the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
We'll figure out who they are, and then they get
the Bengals again, they get the Bengals, and then the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Patriots, Packers, Steelers, And I hate looking way too far
ahead because who knows who's going to be healthy and ready,
and it could all look different.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
But that team's not done. No, no, no, and not done.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
And Harball John, you know, the coaching is obviously they're
they're there. Once they start getting these guys back healthy,
then they become a different team when you have to
when you have to prepare for Baltimore and you have
to prepare for Lamar Jackson and Derreck Henry. That's those

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defensive coordinators. They're puckered up all week trying to figure
out who do you stopping and and and what gives
you that we can't stop both? So do you it?
Lamar go crazy? You try to keep them in the pocket.
Do you dedicate the safety down to stopping Derek Hinton? Like,

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what do you do? And without Lamar there, it doesn't work.
There's no threat.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Just like if you took Josh Allen off the Bills,
how good would James Cook be?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, yeah, no, not very good.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
But both of them are actually about to play football
tonight in a matter of minutes. We will prime you
for that game, Patriots and Bills Sunday Night football also
coming up next. All I hear is people talking about
Mike McDaniel and also everybody in Tennessee talking about Callahan.
And those are the two coaches that are just they're

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all walking the plank. And I'd like to know why
this coach's name hasn't yet been added to the mix.
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Speaker 2 (18:08):
These are the Fox Sports radio studios and that is
it from salam And I'm Mark Willard. I don't know
what you think. I expect a game tonight. I expect
a real game tonight in Buffalo. What do you think?
Patriots get the ball first, so we'll see. I know

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this is a this is a big environment. There's a
big stage for Drake May right out of the gate.
But I'm expecting Buffalo to get a good, healthy portion
of what they can handle in this game tonight.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, it's you know, I think it's time for New England.
We had a lot of high hopes.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
For New England. We did. We did.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
A lot of people did, not just us, but it
seemed like.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
They were.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
They've made all the moves in the offseason to give
Drake an opportunity, starting with the coach, Mike Rabrol. I
think the level of respect we all have for him
is there is warranted. H He's been able to do
things without a quarterback that not many can. But tonight

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he's going up against a different beast. He's going up
against one of those teams that have one of those
special players.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
And in my mind, there's only three of those guys
in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
There's only three of those guys. Who's the third Patrick Mahomes. Okay, okay,
that's fair. That's fair to me, that's elite because you
take Patrick off the Kansas City Chiefs team. If you
took Patrick Mahomes off that team last year, are they

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fifteen and two?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I don't even know if they were two and fifteen?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Thank you, But.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I mean this just first thought that comes to my mind.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I mean, can we acknowledge what's happened to the Bengals
when Joe Burrow leaves?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, but we've also can acknowledge what happens to them
when he's there.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah. No, that's fair. It's not like they were.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's not like I mean that was a very very
small sample this year.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Last year, and the year before.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, And like so you got this is not just
in the moment type of thing for me, Like I
think Joe Burrow is one of the most talented quarterbacks
on the planet. But what I'm talking about is this
is no matter what is going on around you, there

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are three men on the planet Earth that can single
handedly do something miraculous. And in my opinion, it's just
just my opinion, we happen to work in an opinion
based business, we do. In my opinion, that's Josh Allen,

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Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Okay, yeah, I think you got I mean, no one,
no one's gonna throw their beer on that opinion.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Now, Bengals fans and you know they would say Joe
Burrow and yeah, man, but you didn't make the playoffs
last year.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
No, it's interesting. I mean, I think you have a
fair point.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
We've never really gotten a lengthy look at what the
Bills or Chiefs would look like without Mahomes or Allan
and maybe that is part of their draw.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Like they've also.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hold that's definitely part right.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
They've been tremendously healthy throughout their career, even though they
are mobile quarterbacks who do a lot out on the field.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But like, it's interesting walk.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Around the league and coming into the year, were there
any other fan bases that would be like, wait, what
about our guy?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, actually, Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Did leave Washington for a couple of weeks and no,
still a pretty viable football.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Team, pretty viable, you know, impressive win for them today.
I'm glad he's back.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And uh and after a slow start, they got things
going against a really good defense. I think the world
of him, you know, But I don't know, is Jalen
Hurts in that conversation. Is Jared Goff in that conversation? Yeah,
I'm sure there's some fan bases that feel that way,
but I think your opinion.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, got a good foundation to it.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And and we'll get back to it after we bring
our guy in here. Yep, Big D, Big Dan and
and and give us an update. But we'll get back
to that.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean, you just see what our show's like without Steve.
Don't worry. He's gonna be here quickly.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
The Charger fans didn't have reason to stick around after
what the Commanders did him in the second half. But
Steve will be here. But I am in his spot
for the damn Yeah. Hey guys, Hey, you talked to you.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
What a nice surprise.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yes, Yes, it's good to be here on the night
where we've got some baseball and obviously the NFL going on.
I'll just get baseball out of the way because you
can see it on Fox Sports one right now. Tiger's
and Mariners scoreless top of the second. Earlier today, Jase
topped the Yankees thirteen to seven in their Game two,
so Toronto up two to zero in the best of
five series.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
There.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
As for the Patriots and Bills, just underway, scoreless in
Orchard Park, Patriots had a punt on their first possession.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Bills have the football.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
Backed up in their own territory again just a couple
of minutes into the contest. At the end of the
contest in Arizona, it sounded like this, here we go.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
Cox snaps it back, sly lets it fly.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Hey, Nashville, that sounds like a winner.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
The Tennessee Titans two the Arizona Cardinals twenty one. Joey
Slid with the game winning kick with no time left
on WGFX and one to four point five in the
Titans radio network. Tennessee rallies from down twenty one to
three to top the Cardinals by that twenty two to
twenty one score. Buccaneers, as you guys, touched off the

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top four and one, edging the Seahawks today thirty eight
thirty five.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
All road teams won in the late window.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Commanders took down those Chargers twenty seven to ten, while
the Lions outscored the Bengals thirty seven to twenty four. Jets,
They're zero to five, losing at home to the Cowboys
thirty seven to twenty two. While Philly was dealt their
first loss of the season by Denver. Broncos had eighteen
unanswered in a twenty one seventeen victory. Panthers came back
to beat the Dolphins twenty seven to twenty four. Colts
were forty to six winners against the Raiders, Jonathan Taylor

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in the end zone three times, while the Texans routed
the Ravens forty four to ten, and the Saints get
win number one on the year, topping the Giants in
New Orleans twenty six to fourteen. Earlier in London, the
Vikings beat the Browns twenty one seventeen.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Fellos.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Back to you, dank great to you boys, yep, yep,
thank you, my man, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
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Sports Radio studios. Mark Willardy from salam Okay, he mentioned
that Arizona Tennessee game and then he even played the
clip of the field goal going through. Joey Sly kicks
it through and the Titans are a winner in Arizona.
I'm not a coach firer. I don't like going for
people's jobs on the show. That's not kind of where

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I'm at. But I'm trying to figure out what it
is that's actually happening in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Figure out because this is clearly also one of those
teams that we just sort of decide, oh, they're cursed,
they're never good. But like, let's spend some time on
this for a second. And for those of you who
might have been out and about you on a honeydew list,
you're at a kid's birthday party. Who knows what you
were doing today if you didn't get a chance to

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see how this went down with Arizona up twenty one
to three and then finding a way to uncork a
sixteen to nothing fourth quarter in favor of the Titans
to lose this game. You had he married de Mercado
breakthrough for what was going to be an easy seventy

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yard touchdown or so, and he did the same thing
that happened to the Colts last week, which is he
flipped the ball in celebration before he crossed the goal line.
So there was that, and then the Titans scored a
touchdown that I think a from unbelievable. Was the craziest
touchdown I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
In my life. Never happen again.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And I've been watching a whole lot of football for
a long long time.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Correct me if I'm wrong or if I missed anything.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
You had cam Ward hustle out to his left scramble,
then he.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Throws the ball over the middle of the field. He
got tipped. It got tipped, and I said it intercepted.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
The intercepting player falls to the ground.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Then they fall to the ground. Then then they get.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Up the ball. They were getting up the ball, pops free.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Fumbled the football, but then they had about three chances
to just recover it.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
And all they did was hit it into the end zone.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
It squirted around like a bar of soap on the
floor of the shower and flew into the end zone,
where I don't even know who fell on it for
the Titan player.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Titans player, yes, and that is they touched own, that
touched out. I've never seen that before in my life.
We'll never see it again.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I mean so their coach's name is Jonathan Kennon, and
I'm not like, that's not on the coach when something
like that happens.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
But like, let's go bigger, let's go macro.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
You and I had the Marvin Harrison Junior conversation last week,
and I know he put up some stats again, but
it just when you add in de Mercado, I know
they're injured in the backfield.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Blah blah blah. Oh boy man, this is a team
that just they just do not feel buttoned up.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
If you look and find how they lost these last.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Three games that they've lost, it's.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Really kind of unbelievable that they found a way to
lose all of them.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It was this one.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
It was the Thursday nighter at home against Seattle where
you know they tied that thing up with what felt
like four seconds to go and found a way to
lose in regulation. There's the game in Sam Francisco where
you're up fifteen thirteen with a couple of minutes to go.
You let you let Mac Jones go all the way

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down the field and win that football game. And that
came after three or four ridiculous dropped passes that all
would have closed that game out. I just I don't know.
I don't know what to do with that football team
in that situation.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I got one better for you. I see the Angle
year coming in and I'm asking myself, well, how did
they win the two that they won? Interesting you're looking
at how they lost, and I'm asking myself just watching
them play this year, how did they win those two?
I mean because they beat the Saints by a score yep,

(29:45):
by seven, and they beat the Panthers by five by five.
So we should be asking ourselves because if I'm not wrong,
the Saints and the Panthers are two of the worst
teams in the league. Did they win those two games?

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That's what I'm asking because everything that I've seen from them,
they're just not, like you said, buttoned up.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
They're at the.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Party with chest hair out, you're standing at a wedding
as the best man and got your nipples showing. They
are not button up at all. And it's amazing that
they snuck in two games. Well they're talented team, are they?

(30:37):
I think they are?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yes, Well they're best receiver. Well that's what I mean.
It's kind of an on paper thing. Maybe that's not
James Connor.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
When James conn is, he's the stabling force, he is
the beacon for them. They go as he goes. He's gone. Yeah,
so they're all over the place. It wasn't Kyler who
was the leader. It was James. So who is the

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leader there? Who is that?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
There, you have it, that's the problem. Now New England
got a botched uh you know handoff from Buffalo yep,
and then gave it back to them.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, I would like to talk about don't don't tell
everybody what just happened yet, because I would like to
talk about what just happened in this football game in
both a micro and a macro sort of a way. Okay,
And there's one player. There's one player. I won't reveal
his name yet, but swear to God Aphraim, if I

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were coaching that football team.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
We wouldn't see him again in the month of October.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
That would be the end of that That would be
just about the end of that, and actually it's coaching malpractice.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
That this player still starts.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
So we're gonna we're gonna get to all that here
in in just a second with me from Salama Mark Willard.
This is Week five and we're all over all of it.
Baseball to tonight. The playoffs are here. This is Fox
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Speaker 2 (32:35):
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
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Speaker 2 (32:46):
Talk to me about an NFL team's hesitation to put
a rookie into a key spot. Why does it take
so long when you can look at a player and
you're like, well, that player is better than the person
there behind. I can see it. You can see it.

(33:09):
Any dummy can see it. Why does it take so long?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, it also depends on when that rookie was drafted
in the value of that rookie. Okay, now, if it's
a first round draft pick, you don't want to do
anything to stop or reverse his development, So you're.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Cautious because you have so much.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Writing on said rookie, Like it's one of those things where, right,
you wouldn't take your brand new sports car on a
rally race across the desert, right, Like, it'll be fast,
but you tear it up and which would make it ineffective.

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So teams are hesitant to put rookies in places where
they deem not conducive to them getting better.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Okay, what if it is the second round.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Pick, there's still a lot of value there. Yep, there's
still a lot of value. Okay, So what the teams
are thinking that I have we have time with him.
We have time, so we want to get them in
the best position for them to be successful. So our
investment is successful.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
As we speak, we're four forty and counting to go
in the first quarter of this football game. Remandre Stevenson
has just re entered the game for the New England Patriots.
On the most recent Patriots possession, Remandre lost a fumble,

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which I've lost count how many fumbles he's lost in
just the last three weeks. And I would have said
I've lost count over how many he's lost through last
year too, except for they just flashed it up on
the screen. He has lost. This is last year.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
This year.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's week five last year, and this year he has
lost six fumbles. He has fumbled ten times last year
in this year, Eve From that's only twenty two games.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You're fumbling every other game.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
As a starting running back in the NFL, you're fumbling
every other game. I don't understand. They don't understand why
he is still on the field. You drafted a running
back in the second round. This is not a fantasy thing.
I don't have him on my team. That is not
about that you drafted a running back in the second round.

(36:03):
He looks very exciting. I'm sure there are some analytics
that tell you this, that or the other. Maybe he
doesn't pass block as well. Okay, fine, okay, fine, but
there's got to be.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I don't know. There's got to be.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know, you and I talked about Woody Marx last week,
that kid in Houston now today whatever. Everybody touched the
ball because the Ravens were so bad and so they
spread it around.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
And that's fine.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
But like I told you, after week two or week three,
I go, well, that's your guy. He moves a lot
better than Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb's Body's gone through hell.
You like, that's your guy, so go ahead and make
that your guy. But a lot of times they just
they won't do that. They won't make it your guy.

(36:55):
And it's not even just rookies. I think the whole
fantay see football ification has really heightened our awareness to
this where a lot of times you'll watch a football
team and you're like, that's the guy, and the coach
is like, yeah, but but we're only gonna give him
the ball forty two of the time. We're only gonna
give him maybe half the snaps. And I get that

(37:16):
you got to spell people and all these things, but
like the death of the bell Cow sometimes really confuses me.
It really does, because you can see who the guy is,
and they won't go to the guy. I don't get it.
I love the Bill Cow, right, Dereck Henry's bell Cow. Yep,

(37:39):
is there a problem?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I love the Bill Cow? Love it. I play with
bill cows, you know what I mean? I mean one
of my Super Bowl last year. Ye yeah, you know.
And then here's the Raiders Taylor.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
The Raiders, for example, like, okay, not a good football team,
and maybe that has something to do with their willingness here.
But like, and I know that they used high, high
draft capital on him.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
But okay, Ashton Genty, you're our guy.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
You're our guy.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
But there are teams all over the league where we're
looking at these rookie running backs and they just you know,
I give.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
You another one that finally popped today.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
But I've had a really hard time understanding what took
you so long on Jacory Krofsky. Merit you you traded
Brian Robinson because you loved him. Yeah, and then Eckler
gets hurt and you come out for three weeks firing
people named Chris Rodriguez at everybody, What are you doing.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Today? They gave him fourteen carries? What did they get?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
A buck eleven, two touchdowns and a double digit road win?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
What is the hesitation? Now, there are some things we
may not know. Sure that's fair? And what's the young
man Henderson? Right? Yes?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Now, if Traveon Henderson has a fumbling problem in practice,
and I'm not saying he does because I don't know,
it's no way he sees the field.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
If he.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Can't get the concept of protection, it's no way he
can see the field understood, So maybe he's not getting
the playbook. So there are things that can stop a
team from putting a rookie in, just like there are

(39:52):
ways as young players, rookie players, you can make it
hard for a team not to put you in. Right,
And I use myself as an example. I knew the playbook.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yep. They were like, at least he's going to know
what to do.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I mean, the one that you want to know, the
one that's ringing around in my head. I don't know
if you woke up early today, but this Judkins kid,
oh yeah, looks like I mean, he wasn't even on
the team two weeks ago, and now they're like, you're
our guy.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
He's number ten. I was like, who is this a receiver?
It's like, who is this Quinn Shawn Judkins? He looks fantastic.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
He had no camp, he had no camp, and they
trust him and they trust him. So, yes, you're right,
I'm sure there's plenty we don't know. I also think, though,
sometimes coaches lean into the vets when they probably don't

(40:48):
need to be that sticky. More on this coming up. Yeah,
into the night we go. As Week five in the
NFL continues to unfall, then they got a little case
of the whoopsie days. He's going on so far in Buffalo,
a lot of fumbles, a lot of drop balls, a
lot of turnovers. What it has led to so far,

(41:11):
as you just heard, is an early first quarter three
nothing lead for the road team, the New England Patriots.
I will tell you this whole white out thing that
they're doing in Buffalo tonight. The uniforms are white from
head to toe, and the fans of Buffalo ephraim they
are obedient. Yes, my gosh, I want to know what

(41:34):
you say to the fan And it looks like every
section has about three of them. They decided to wear
their Blue Bills shirt tonight. I feel like they're social outcasts.
I feel like people are going to be wanting to
kick them out. Almost everybody did exactly as they were
told tonight.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Most situations like this, they've supplied you with the shirt.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Now, when I go to Lakers games and they have
all the shirts and they're this is a great example.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Go ahead, tell people what happens at the Laker game
when they provide you with a nice xcel boxy gold
T shirt.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I can't wear it.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
You can't wear it.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Nobody wears no, No one even tries to wear it.
But I can't wear it even though I would want
to wear it because it doesn't fit.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
It doesn't fit. That's different. So that's different.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
A lot of people have picked out their best outfit
for that Laker game, and they're not about to put
a box.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
No no, no, no no no. We're not about to cover
up this name branding whatever I have on. It's just LA.
People are watching.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
This exactly, exactly, all right, Josh Allen is on the field.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
We will keep you up to date.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Patriots three nothing closing seconds of the first quarter in Buffalo,
as the NFL's last remaining perfect team tries to stay
that way. You and I tried to tell everybody, I
don't even know if you still feel the same way.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's been a little bit of an odd up and down.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Start for them, but down seventeen to three in Philadelphia
in the second half. Earlier today, the Denver Broncos, I
thought suddenly looked like the playoff team that I expected
to come out.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
And play this year.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
And that was a big adult victory for them today.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, I think it was. That's a great way to
put that big boy yes, victory. I guess a team
that had seemed like they were unstoppable in terms of
winning close games, doing the right thing no matter what.

(43:50):
And what I saw from Philadelphia today, I'm concerned. And
I was concerned going into the game because I didn't
know how sustainable what they were doing was. But now

(44:16):
what Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos has done has
given you a blueprint to how to beat Philadelphia or
slow them down or get them uncomfortable. And what I
mean by that is they ran the boy eleven times.

(44:40):
Taekwon Barkley had six carries for thirty yards. That's five
yards to carry, yep, So why wouldn't he have twenty
five yards? I mean had twenty five carries. Dalen Hurts
threw the ball thirty eight times right well, for two
hundred eighty year two touchdowns look a great average. But

(45:03):
guess what, you now no longer control the game.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
You lost the game. Jalen Hurts ran the ball twice today?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Do you now no longer control the game?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Why do you think the Eagles chose to do that?
I thought, I have a theory. I want to know
what you think?

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Well, I thought, and when you have one high safety,
you're going to pass the ball. That's just what two
high safeties, you're going to run the ball. One safety,
you're going to pass the ball. When they stack the box,

(45:46):
then you passed the ball. Now they have top tier receivers,
that's not in question. They have a quarterback who can
pass the ball. Not the best passing attack in the league,
but it's surely serviceable. We've seen that even in the

(46:06):
biggest games in the Super Bowl. But if the Philadelphia
Eagles can't control time of possession, the down in distance,
then you take away their superpower. There weren't very many
third and fourth and ones, and matter of fact, they

(46:35):
didn't go for it at all. There was no fourth
down going forward.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Well, I guess my question though, is did Denver's defense
do this to them or did they do this to themselves?

Speaker 3 (46:45):
It was a game plan, okay, defense the d I'm pretty.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Sure you dared them to throw it in.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
They did one and you can live with them throwing
the ball.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
You can live with let letting Jayalen it over two
hundred and eighty yards.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yes, I want to know if the Eagles franchise reads
the athletic that's my take. I want to know if
they read The Athletic, because there was a very very
telling article from Diana Orussini that came out either late
last night earlier this morning.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I don't know when it came out, but.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
That's when I got to it, and it bounces around
the league to kind of the ooh, what are we
hearing inside story stuff?

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I don't know if you heard.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Turns out Mac Jones first thing that happened to him
when he woke up Thursday morning when he was playing
Thursday night football in la As he looked out his
hotel room balcony and saw a dead body floating in
the water.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I don't know if you like that. I don't know
if you heard that story.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
But that was one of the things that was like,
check out some crazy stuff that's going on around the league.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
The idea that aj Brown would be chirpy and frustrated,
that's news to no one. What I think was news
to people is that DeVante Smith feels the exact same way.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
And so now.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
We're talking about two receivers that really hold a significant
amount of your cap space. They are big names, they
have a big presence in the locker room. And I
very much doubt that the Eagles, who had won like
one hundred games in a row, are suddenly going to go,

(48:28):
We're gonna put We're gonna put the game on the
line today so that we can make our two receivers happy.
I doubt that, But I also know that it's pretty
hard to hold the whispers out. And I got to wonder,
when you've won how many games in.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
A row had the Philadelphia Eagles won?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Team that's okay, something like that.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
So when you went seventeen football games in a row
and reporters are circling around your locker room telling the
story of how people are all pissed off, I wonder
how this lands. Because not only did they lose today, Ephraim,
they were up by two touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
How on earth still throwing the ball?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Thank you? How on earth.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Do you have a two touchdown lead at home and
you're the Eagles and you just said it, you ran
the ball eleven times?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Whether that's crazy to me in.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
An entire football game, that does not make any sense whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
No, no, no, no, no. And I don't care how
many safeties were on the field.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
There is a problem brewing and it has been brewing,
and I told some of my Philly fans, good friends
of mine, this aj Brown thing is going to cost you,
and it just cost them their first game because now
there's playcating going on. You're going to pass the ball

(50:02):
even though the world knows that's not the type of
team you are and you shouldn't have to be something
you're not. Oh you're Super Bowl champions. You control the
line of scrimmage, and you can control the time of possession,

(50:23):
not when you're passing the ball thirty eight times. Not
when you're passing the ball thirty eight times. And that's
the point. That's the problem that I see with the
Philadelphia Eagles. They're trying to address something that had no

(50:43):
bearing on them winning or losing a game. Now they've
made it a ford. Look, this is not what they do.
You five yards to carry six carries I and you're
up by two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
If you just showed me this box score and said
let's do this from backwards to the front, like final
score twenty one seventeen.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Here's the box score, the first thing.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I'd say to you was, oh, they were down twenty
one and nothing, and they made a valiant comeback and
fell just short. That's what I would say, that's what
the box score tells me.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yep, they had pass want to get back into the game.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
You were down twenty one to nothing and you and
you fought like hell to get back in this thing,
and you almost pulled it out.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Turns out is the other way around. Listen to this
go ahead. Twenty three, twenty two, thirty two, twenty four.
Those are the number of passing attempts Jalen hurts his
head this season in these games they've won them all.

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Thirty eight is what he had today.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
And you were up not seventeen to three in the
second half, in the fourth quarter, fourth quarter. That's fourteen
points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
That's a problem because now you want to make nice
with your receivers instead of winning football games. And I
get it, you're gonna need them, you are, You're gonna
need them for sure. But as professional athletes, when you're needed,

(52:49):
you have to be ready, say Kwan Barkley, last year
had a historic year. Only one person, one time ever
has had a better year. He's a running back. You
won the Super Bowl. We have a formula We're gonna

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stick to that formula until we don't win the Super Bowl.
Not being.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Four and oh.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Under the same formula and switching up the recipe and
trying to sell it to the people who stand in
line to get the original recipe, It's not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I wonder. I wonder, wouldn't it be fun to, you know,
hook everybody up to a line of texta tests. I
wonder how Davante Smith feels today. He got eight balls
for fourteen yards.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Hey man, he got his numbers. Yeah, got his numbers.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
You lost?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Got your numbers though.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Eighteen targets to Devonte Smith and aj Brown eleven runs.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I wonder if Sakwon Barkley is gonna be at the
press commonference are tweeting some random cryptic tweet. I wonder
if Sakwan Barkley, the soul of that team, is going
to now turn to Twitter and be as cryptic as

(54:19):
possible about this past game.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I'd bet against it.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Like the last time I had six carries was when
I was grocery shopping and I carried six bags out
of the car at one time.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
But on Boom, Denver trailed by fourteen in the fourth
quarter and they ran the ball twenty nine times. Like
I don't know, I cannot remember seeing a box score
like this. This is wild, absolutely wild, and that's a

(55:02):
hell of a win. Hell of a win for the Broncos.
The Bills get a field goal. They've tied this thing up.
It's three to three right now, early in the second quarter.
We'll keep you up to date. Steve will be along
in fifteen. There was controversy. I'm using air quotes. Controversy apparently.
I'm told that came out of Thursday Night Football this week.

(55:26):
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would appear you from that the New York Yankees are
in a little bit of trouble. They're they're not pitching
the ball. That pitching the ball very well so far.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Coughed up thirteen today and in a quick two hole.
It's hard to get out of those holes. Man. Series
will get away from you quick.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Was gotten away from them, right, Series will get.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Away from you quick.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
And I am always a fan of come playoff time,
the team that has really put together the best bullpen.
I know that's what you're worried about, what your Dodgers
to man, But.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Good start, good start.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Last night they got lively bats man, Yes they got lively.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Beats, Yes they do. Yeah. But when you get a
when you get a.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Five run seventh inning, like that's usually you know, decisive,
When you get a five run seventh inning and all
that does is cut your deficit to six? Yeah, not
quite the not quite the playoff start the Yankee fans were.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Looking for no.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
But you know I saw visions of that in the
wildcard round, right they had yep, you know it was uh,
they had very spirited wild card round.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Well, of course, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Think they saved that thing. And that was it the
eighth inning of Game two. Yep, but I'm something miracul
was it?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Uh? Was it? Uh?

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Chaseom Uh? He just decided I'm going to do it,
going to score this run, That's right. He didn't even
slow down.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
No, and he was just ahead of the thrower, ahead
of the He was not in the line up in
Game one, and he was not pleased with that.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
So he's like, what, I'm gonna show you why I
should have been in the lineup. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
When that ball was hit and he just took off. God,
he was not stopping. No, No, but that's what it
took ye them to even make it to this point.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
And then one game underway right now too into the evening,
the Mariners leaving the Tigers won to nothing in the
in the fifth inning. Tiger's threatening though, and so we'll
keep you up to day on that. The Tigers took
the one nothing lead in that series. Steve will have
all of that coming up in about five minutes. Hey, man,
I always you know, we start off segments sometimes when

(59:25):
I'm like, I need your help. I need your help
because I like to, you know, bolst of the argument
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
I respect you. You played in the league.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Help me out, Help me out for anyone in the
great city of San Francisco that's like. And by the way,
one of these people with my mom my mom texted
me at eight forty five Thursday night, e from She's like,
I think Max should be our quarterback. God, and I'm

(59:53):
sitting here, Oh my god, I'm rubbing my temples because
there are twelve reasons why that's it's not even a thing.
I don't want to dismiss anyone's opinion. If you love
Mac Jones, my god, what a warrior, what a performance,
What a performance? And any backup quarterback that goes three

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and zero two of them on the road, battling your
own injuries, trying not to barf on the field, heroic performance.
But if you can't see what's the big picture, here

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go you tell everybody why that's not a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
It's a good reason it's not a thing. Number one,
because I mean the obvious one is one of the
guys you're playing fifty plus million dollars a year or two. Yep,
there is no such things. Now, if this is last
year you got something, maybe you get talk about that

(01:01:01):
conversation is over. Brock Purty's your quarterback for the next
four years period, barn Injury. I said it earlier in
the show. There are certain teams and systems that are
conducive to having success because the system is so good

(01:01:26):
the reason brock Purty became Brock Party. Now he still
has to make the throws. He still have to do
all the things you need to starting quarterback to do,
which he did all the way to the Super Bowl,
all the way to the NFC Championship game of the
whole nine aren't so here is rewarded.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Mac Jones and brock Party were in the same draft,
weren't they.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
No, brock Party was one year later Jones. Mac Jones
was in the Trey Lance the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
That's what it is, yeesh, And everybody thought Mac Jones
was in San Francisco. Wants the word on a wire?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yes, Yes, Kyle, what it is? Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Moved up to number three to get Mac Jones, Yes,
and they took Trey Lance instead.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And do you wonder why mac Jones is successful in
the Kyle shannonhan system because Kyle Shanahan knew he'd be
successful in that system. Why do you think he's there.
There's a reason Sam Donald is doing what he's doing.

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Guess where Sam Donald spent some time as well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Forty nine ers and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
The Shanahan system. He just didn't get an opportunity to
play because uh Brock perty was playing and they playing
extremely well. But at any moment, if Brock would have
went down, Sam Donald would have came in and had success.
Now you can say, well, that's why you don't have

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to pay the quarterback. Naw, you don't want to do that.
You want to pay the quarterback that wins for you,
because that's what you do for players that win. Well,
you can put anybody back there. You can't put anybody
back there. Trey Lents didn't work, thank you. Jimmy Garoppolo
worked to an extent, to an extent, So you have

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to be really cautious of what you're saying when you're
talking about a quarterback controversy, just like we had Dan
Buyer's the first hour. But there is no controversy here
because we got Steve de Seger from here on out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Because Dan came in and he had success. I thought
he was very success. He came in, he had very successful.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
He gotta win. Thank you Dan. Now back to our starter, and.

Speaker 9 (01:03:46):
I had enough success on the four or five that
I'm actually here earlier than I I like it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:52):
Good evening to you, gentlemen.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
By the way, there was a college football game last
night with Chuba Purty quarterbacking the University of Nevada, brother
of Brock Party, and he was zero for four with
two interceptions, and they went with another quarterback down twenty
to three at the half and got close and lost
at Fresno State twenty to seventeen.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
Who's the Fresno quarterback?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
EJ.

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
Warner, son of Kurt Warner.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
We have a Sunday night football game that's well, nothing
to write home about, Let's be honest. Four minutes to go,
second quarter at Buffalo, the Bills and the Patriots are
tied three to three. I will say if the Bills
win tonight, they'll have a five and zero record through
five weeks, and every other team in their division will
have a losing record. We haven't had such a start
in a division since twenty eighteen when the Rams got

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after a good start in the NFC West that year.
But what's going on in this game tonight? The teams
exchanged fumbles early, that exchanged punts, Then there was a
Buffalo fumble that New England turned into a field goal,
and early second quarter a home team field goal of
thirty one yards and three to three. Now about three
minutes left till halftime. Josh Allen nine of eleven, passing

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one hundred yards. Meanwhile, on the ground for the pay
Matriots seven carries nineteen yards so far. As for the
late afternoon games, Lions topped the Bengals thirty seven to
twenty four. Commanders beat the Chargers in LA twenty seven
to ten after trailing ten nothing in the first half.
Jacory krossky Merritt just call him Bill had two touchdown runs.

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In fact, on only fourteen carries for Washington, he had
one hundred eleven yards on the ground plus two catches
for thirty nine yards. Compare that to the Chargers three
running backs they rotated in twenty one carries for them
just seventy five yards on the ground and Omari and Hampton,
the Charger first round running back, was reportedly in a

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walking boots coming out of locker room after the game.
Titans got their first win of the season. They were
down twenty one three to Arizona, second quarter edged the
Cardinals twenty two to twenty one. Another walk off win
for Baker Mayfield and the Bucks thirty nine yard field
goal beats the Seahawks thirty eight to thirty five. Mayfield
twenty nine of thirty three passing three hundred and seventy

(01:05:59):
nine yard yards and two scores. Dallas got four TD
passes from Dak Prescott and beat the Jets. Yes, they
lost again thirty seven to twenty two. Saint shut out
the Giant second half, wound up winning for first win
for New Orleans twenty six fourteen. Rashid Shaheed four catches
one hundred fourteen yards in a score. Rico Dowdle was
needed to step up on the ground for the Panthers.

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He did twenty three carries two hundred six yards rushing
at a score. Panthers come back to beat Miami twenty
seven to twenty four. CJ Stroud four touchdown passes as
the Texans beat whatever's left of the Ravens forty four
to ten Broncos with an eighteen nothing fourth quarter to
come back at Philly and beat the Eagles. They've lost

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for the first time this year. Twenty one seventeen, Denver
the final the Colts Jonathan Taylor with three touchdown runs.
They crushed the Raiders forty to six. And in London
this morning, the Vikings beat the Browns twenty one seventeen
with the go ahead TD pass with under thirty seconds
to go to Major League Baseball's play offs just American
League today. The NL continues with their Game twos tomorrow.

(01:07:04):
Vladimir Gero Junior a Grand Slam in Toronto Blue Jays
thirteen to seven over the Yankees to take a two
games to none lead in their best of five alds.
Detroit's at Seattle going to the sixth inning on FS
one right now Mariners with a solo homer lead. The
Tigers won nothing. Detroit's offense one for sixteen so far,
ruining yet another good effort on the mound from Trek

(01:07:27):
Scoobley has seven strikeouts in five innings so far. The
new AP College Football Poll is out the top three,
Ohio State, Miami and Oregon, Penn State and Texas. Correct
me if I'm wrong. They were preseason number two and
number one. They are on ranked now already all the
way out of the top twenty five, even though they
were top ten teams this past week. But they lost

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to unranked opponents. And yeah, Penn State didn't just lose
to an unranked opponent. They lost to a UCLA team
that was zero to four and had literally never had
a lead in any of its games, and their early schedule,
let's just say, was not dotted with a bunch of
Penn States. In the WNBA finals, Las Vegas defeated Phoenix

(01:08:09):
ninety one seventy eight to take a two games to
none lead. NASCAR win for the road course, Maven shanevan Gisbergen,
and we will have more to update next hour because
we'll get more details in facts done the NFL game
and further updates. Maybe the baseball will be done. It
could be Mariner's one game apiece in this best of five,

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but again the NL is off.

Speaker 8 (01:08:32):
Back tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Back to you, okay, Steve, great stuff, Glad you're here,
Glad you can settle in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
We'll talk to you again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Next hour, we are live in the Fox Sports Radio
studios along with e from Salam.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
I'm Mark Willard.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
There's I'm just like man Couppeth, overflowing with teams. I
want to get to the disappointment of the Las Vegas Raiders.
The Giant Saints game has number one pick implications dotted
all over it. But I still really really like Jackson
Dart and I also just realized that we completely forgot

(01:09:07):
to do three things, So let's do it at the
top of the next hour instead, because I got all
these things all set to go, and we got going
on something else. So all of that, but I'm not
quite done yet with your air quotes. Quarterback controversy in
San Francisco. Can I ask you a question? Why the
Niners win that game?

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
And how? Why and how how they win? When you
think of what happened in that game, what do you
think of?

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
The first thing I know is when these two teams
play each other, it really doesn't matter what the records
are or who's in what was that comes with these

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two teams. McVeigh and Shanahan know each other so well. Yep,
Number one, they're friends. Number two they were working in
the same system. So there are so many similarities to
the systems.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
That they run.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
And so it's been times where the Rams were unbeatable
and the Niners come in and beat them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
And and vice versa. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
So the number one take from that is this is
literally a pick them up for grabs. It depends, now
what both these teams were doing. We're throwing the ball
around the yard, Like, I mean, how great was it

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to have two games, separate games this week where you
could do anything? Yep, literally, you could do anything at
the quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Forty seven pass attempts for matt Stafford.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Forty nine for mac Joe. I couldn't believe it. I
was like, this is out of control.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yeah. Yeah, but the Niners had a lot of plays.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
They also ram the ball thirty three times Rams not
so much sixteen kicks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Yeah, they were like, we're gonna put this on your shoulders,
Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Oh, until they got to the play that mattered the most. Yes,
So this is kind of what I'm getting at. It's
very very difficult to fund the worse. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Say it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
The worst fourth down call I've ever seen, given the
team and what you had just done, Thank you, And
McVeigh couldn't wait to get in a press conference and
eat that. Yep, he couldn't wait. I don't even know

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if anyone asked him a question. He just jumped on,
jumped on that grenade right off the bat, and he
was absolutely it was the worst when it happened, I said,
wait what yep, epic battle.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
The Rams had any passing play available they wanted by.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
That anything in the game, anything, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
They chose to run it and they gave it to
somebody who also was on his way into the end
zone just a game minute earlier and had the ball
punched out literally inside the one yard line. So why
did the forty nine ers beat the Rams? Well because
the Rams executed very, very poorly down the stretch, even

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though it was evident in the second half that they
had figured it out. They were heading downhill, they were
doing whatever they wanted offensively, and quite frankly, had kind
of figured out how to at least put a lid
on what the Niners were doing. All they did after
halftime was kicked three field goals, one of them being
in overtime. So again we box score dive to look

(01:13:24):
at mac Jones and again heroic performance thirty three at
forty nine, three hundred and forty two yards, two touchdowns
and he did not turn the ball over. Fantastic, and
he fought through injury really really great. But those numbers
because of the style of the game that you just discussed,

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to come out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
And be like Max carving them up, give him the job.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
No, tell me you didn't watch the game without telling
me you didn't watch a game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Right, because if they try this against anybody else, they'll
be about four interceptions tagged into those forty nine attempts.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Like you gotta see what you see.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Styles make fights, absolutely, and these two styles are very similar.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
That's why the score is similar and the numbers are similar.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Period. I'm glad we worked that out. That makes me
feel better.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Tell your mom that yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Yeah, I texted her back and then she was I
think she went to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
But anyway, all right, we're in the Fox Sports radio
studios and we got a bunch of teams to get to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Would love to get your thoughts on the Raiders. Believe
it or not. I'm shocked. I'm shocked that it looks
like this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
We got three things coming up at the top of
the hour, our top observations of the day, Still around
the corner with it from Salam. I'm Mark Willard. This
is Fox Sports Radio. Hey, real quick, you're kicking the
three right, absolutely, taking the three right?

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Absolutely, you got.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
One shot at it. The Patriots are at the one
yard line with one second left to go before the
before the half. They've had some opportunities here, but a
mature decision. Here comes the nineteen yard field.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Goal and finally, yeah, right, yes, yes take the three.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
What did you think of what Sean Payton did in
the moment?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
And just to let everybody know, the Broncos are trailing
seventeen to three. Fourth quarter, they get one touchdown, okay,
seventeen to ten. They're hanging around, hanging around, they get
the ball back, they go down, they score a touchdown.
I got to look it up from I think what
six and a half minutes to go?

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Still yeah in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Yeah, I a four ish somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
I got it right here, No, seven thirty six left
to go in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
They scored the touchdown to tie and they go for two.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Wow, Like I said, I keeping world, Oh man? What
And then they got it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
They got it, they got it, and they went up
eighteen to seventeen, and it kind of takes a little
bit of the heat off of it when they get it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
But at the same time, I was like, oh boy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Whatless well?

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
What? I just want to interview people, That's what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Like, What what analytic thing happened?

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
What did what did you see here? What happened? Who
did this to you? Gifts right? Right? What advanced metric
told you to do that? And then they got it?
And then they.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Kicked a field goal with one eleven to go, and
I wondered if you had thought about it, because now
you're up by four instead of being up by three,
which ended up being.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Decisive because the Eagles did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
They came down the field and they would have had
a shot to tie it with a field goal if
they were down by three, but they were down by four,
so they just threw up a hail Mary into the
end zone and it got knocked down.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Then they lost it looked like it almost got good.
Was in I know, both receivers hands yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
And then they came down like a pretzel. They kind
of interfered with each.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Other, right, I think they hit it out of each
other's hands.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
What did you think of the move? When he did it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I was shot. Like I said, if there is no
there is no rhyme or reason to these decisions. They'll
tell you of the book. There is no book that
said do that. Just just what you want to do.

(01:18:12):
It's just what you want to do. That's just hitting
a hard seventeen when the dealer has a four showing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Oh god, you get kicked out for that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
I'll flip the table on somebody over somebody with their
five dollar chip.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Oh yeah, that's a get up and leave. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
I got twenty two thousand dollars on the table. You
come in with your twenty five dollar chip. So I
had to give gambling up man? Oh my, you know right,
unless I'm at my own table. Yeah, get your own table.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
But then it goes really fast. Anybody they're thinking, so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Go you ever go do it the High Limit room.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
I've done the High Limit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I figured you had done that before. What happens in there?
Come on, man, what happens in there? It's good or
bad things. I'll just leave it at that. What kind
of what kind of drinks do they bring it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
They actually the real the premium. You get this real stuff,
the real stuff. Yeah, you get the real stuff. Like
it's it's not watered down. It's because they really want you.
They really want you, like when you when there's a

(01:19:41):
minimum and no limit on the table. That's that's how
they get you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Come on, man, cough it up. What's the most you
ever had on the table.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
It's okay, You're you're You're out of that world now,
By goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I don't know, man, I don't know. Maybe I'm misspeaking.
Maybe maybe I'm miss speaking. Maybe maybe I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Oh this is good lord. Twenty plus years ago. Yeah,
how much?

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Nothing right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Because I thought I heard five zero. I don't know. No,
that's what he said. That wasn't anything. What is it?
What are we doing? No, there was no end. I
know when I know the letter in that it was
not in there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Five zero Comma comma comma.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Oh yep, yep, boy, you got saved. You got saved
by the bell. Wow, you got saved by the bell.
That you survived, your survivor. We hope that your fantasy
felt just like one, and we hope that your favorite
team posted at w Today we are broadcast live from

(01:21:01):
the Fox Sports Radio studios. It is Week five in
the National Football League. We're talking it all out. We
got a game and a half left to go this week.
The Chiefs will put their two and two record on
the line against the Jacksonville Jaguars tomorrow night. The Bills
are putting their perfection on the line right now, and
as Steve just told you, they trail at half, though

(01:21:24):
the deficit is small six to three, not the scoring
we expected with the way these two quarterbacks have been playing.
But we will keep you up to date as this
drama builds throughout the second half of this football game.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
But also we need.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
To get right to something that is quickly becoming a
weekly tradition during football season around these parts, and that
is we take you through three things, our top three
observations of the entire football or anything else portion of
the week as it brings us to this point. We
normally do it at nine Easter. Let's just be real

(01:22:01):
with everyone. I forgot, so let's do it now because
I think we got some good ones.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
You want to lead us off and go first. I'll
go first. Go first.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Shout out to the forty nine or Rams game Buccaneer
Seahawks game. Huh right. We talked about them and the
thing that always gets lost in these type of games
where they're completely entertaining, and in the Seahawks Tampa Bay

(01:22:43):
game there were seventy seven pass the sixty seven passes
thrown to one sack, one sack. In the forty nine
Ers Rams game that we had on Thursday, which was

(01:23:06):
a heck of a way to start off our week, yep,
there were I mean almost almost one hundred almost pass
almost one hundred passes two sacks. Shout out to those
offensive lines on all four teams because as a former

(01:23:32):
offensive lineman, the game plan I hated was when you
threw the ball almost fifty times. Because check this out.
If you had fifty passing attempts in the game and
I am perfect on forty nine of them and I

(01:23:53):
give up one sack the defensive and it's celebrating.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
All he has to do is get one sack a game.
That would be seventeen sacks. He would lead the league
and be in the running for Defensive Player of the Year.
I have to be great on fifty passes, thirty passes.
There is no room for air and I think it

(01:24:23):
gets a little lost in the weeds because we're so
enamored by the numbers these quarterbacks put up. It's not
like Mac Jones, who threw the ball forty nine times
also scrambled for fifty sixty five yards No, oh god,

(01:24:45):
yeah five yards yep, Matthew Stafford, no yards rushing. So
I want just I want, I really want people to
be aware how difficult it is for an offensive unit
to throw the ball that many times and just give
up one sack. So shout out to them, that's a

(01:25:06):
really good one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
I have a shout out as well, and mine goes
to Justin Jefferson. I don't know how many of you
might have still been asleep with all of this. Noe
goes way past him having another really good game overseas
in London today and therefore a nice flight home for
the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
He is beyond elite.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
We already knew that, but he's elite in ways that
we didn't even realize. I saw Justin Jefferson play a
great game, and then after the game I heard him
take accountability for another receiver on his team. I heard
him take accountability for Jordan Addison, who has been suspended

(01:25:42):
to start the season two times in a row now
and had to sit out the majority of the first
half today because of a decision by Kevin O'Connell because
Jordan missed a team meeting while they're all in Europe together,
and Justin Jefferson said, this is my fault for not

(01:26:04):
doing a better job of keeping Jordan under my wing.
Jordan Addison is incredibly lucky that he has enough talent
to still have a job in this league after the
consistent horrible decisions that he makes as a teammate and
as a human being, putting the lives of others in danger. Meantime,

(01:26:30):
the one who has all the eyeballs on him, the
one who actually has the pressure on him, the one
who actually lives in a fish bowl, is the one
who has a spotless personal record and is taking accountability
for him, putting on the bulletproofess and standing in front
of his teammate, shout out to you, Justin Jefferson and Jordan,

(01:26:51):
get your act together.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Get it together, brother, get it together. And that's that's
well said, and shame on him. Number two is Baker
Mayfield is the MVP of the league. Wow, it's MVP
the league.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Hard? Are you hard? Are you how many? What? Three incompletions? Today?

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Brother, this man is all a mission.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
For four incompletions. That's at Seattle. That's a good defense.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
I was explaining to my wife why that game was
so excited, why it was so exciting. I went down
the whole draft in history of Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield.
What Baker Mayfield did for Cleveland getting them to the playoffs,
went in the playoff game they got, they didn't like him,

(01:27:45):
They wanted him out, They wanted Deshaun Watson. Baker Mayfield
is the front runner for League MVP in my eye
right now, based on his command of the game of football,

(01:28:07):
not a game, the game. He is unflappable. And when
Leonard Williams got that unsportsmanlike penalty and the next play
they scored, Baker Mayfield was in his chest talking trash.

(01:28:31):
That whole team in sideline will go to war for
this man in a way that we haven't seen in
a long time. My hat goes off to Baker Mayfield
for not only growing up and maturing, but being one

(01:28:55):
of the top quarterbacks in the all of the NFL.
And you can't ignore it. You can't ignore it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
No ten touchdown and in five weeks there's ten touchdowns,
one interception, and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
I think he's won all four games on his final drive.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Brother, all of you can't even all of them script that, Nope,
Because no matter what goes on in a game, Baker
Mayfield is here for it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
He is here for it. And I applaud that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
No, just tremendous play. And actually I'll stick right there
with that team for my number two. I'm so glad
you propped up Baker. And I bet two of the
things that you said to your wife when you're explaining
his performance today, you probably said, he doesn't even have
Mike Evans, he doesn't even have Bucky Irvan and so
here I am to say, if Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Is the MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Oh, that team also has the rookie of the Year.
His name is imeca Ibuka. Man Lord, this young man
is a star. He has five NFL games in his career,
that's it, and he's already able to completely play the
part of a one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
And what I couldn't wait to see was, okay, young Buck,
you're playing great.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
What happens when Mike Evans is not on the field
and the defense is looking straight at you. Well, how
does seven catches on seven targets for one hundred and
sixty three yards and a touchdown sound?

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
That was what Ibuka did today.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Abuka on the year twenty five catches, four hundred and
forty five yards and five touchdowns in five games. He
is already almost to a thousand yard season as a
true first round rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
The chemistry that these two have already in.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Such a short period of time is absolutely mind boggling.
And I can't remember a receiver making this kind of
impact right out of the gate as a rookie since
An Kwon Bolden, Randy Moss. I mean, the difference was
with Bolden was nobody saw it coming. He wasn't an

(01:31:30):
early round pick. Pookah Pooka same good point, fifth round
didn't see it coming. Sometimes to me, it's harder when
they see you coming and you have to fight for
targets on a team with Evans and Godwin and all
these things that are happening. My gosh, he is absolutely fantastic.
So yeah, the Bucks are four and one, and they're

(01:31:52):
also running the fantasy football world right now too.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Yeah, and for all those what look at the record. Look,
people don't understand this train is going and there's nothing
that can happen in the game with They don't think
behind Baker Mayfield they can come back.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Yep. That's how you create a legend.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
And Cleveland is sitting there just going, huh we wanted
the massage king Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Cool, yep, cool, yep, yep, yep. And so now they're
out there with Dylan Gabriel. Yep. Here let me let
me let me guess. Is number three kind of off football? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Okay, perfect, save it for the end because it's fun.
I'll jump and do my number three. And it's that
Pete Carroll probably should have retired. And look, you know,
somebody wants to hire you and pay you money, you
get to take the job. I'm not gonna come down
his road for taking the job. But I really thought
that that division that had four coaches with unbelievable resumes,

(01:32:55):
you either had won a Super Bowl or a national
championship if you were in that division, from Andy Reid
to Sean Payton to Jim Harbaugh to Pete Carroll, I thought,
my gosh, that division is really really something and I
thought everybody in it was going to have a shot
to make some noise this year. Obviously, the Raiders were

(01:33:17):
predicted to be fourth, but with a professional coach and
a professional quarterback now in the building, and an exciting
rookie running back and a team leader on defense that
I would put up next to anybody in the game.
With all of that there, I thought, it's going to
be an interesting squad.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
And they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
They were up three to nothing at the end of
one quarter today in Indianapolis. They got outscored forty to
three from that point. And the Indianapolis Colts didn't even
need a kicker to play this game. First two weeks
they didn't need a punter. Now they didn't even need
a kicker. Guy got hurt in the middle of the

(01:34:01):
game and could not kick anymore, and the Colts were like, whatever,
it doesn't matter. We'll just take six at a time
instead of seven, and we will score so many touchdowns
that this game is going to be over by halftime.

Speaker 9 (01:34:15):
And it was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
I am wildly disappointed by what I'm seeing from the
Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
Yeah, there there, I had an although it pains me
to say as a Bronco former Bronco.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
I had high hopes for the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
I know my good friend Brian who loves the Raiders
in SC football, and he's always given me trash because
I'm always trashing the Raiders. Well, they are hot garbage.
And I don't know what happened to Gino, but he
didn't get the memo of you're no longer that quarterback.
You fencend it into a viable starter. So I don't

(01:34:52):
know what happened. Maybe it's the casinos, maybe it's the
show girls. I don't know, but whenever he's in a
city that doesn't sleep, he doesn't play well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
It's good observation, good observation.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
So maybe he needs to get back to Middle America somewhere.
My third is shout out to my son, my eleven
year old son, who took a couple of weeks off
of basketball so we can really focus on school. He's
doing great in school, by the way, and he had
big tournament this weekend and he comes in and I

(01:35:35):
wasn't here all last week. I was out of town working,
so we didn't do our gym workout or anything like that,
and he just came in and played extremely well, but
he had a game yesterday that they were down the
entire game, and they were down by two. They swung

(01:35:58):
the ball to him with about thirty seconds left and
he just stepped into a three hit.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
The three.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Took him up for good and then calls the turnover
as the team was trying to come down. Excellent defense
made the guy travel. We win that ball game. He
averaged seventeen points, six rebounds, five assists, and three steals

(01:36:25):
this weekend of basketball. So shout out to eleven year
old Elijah Salaam Man. I'm so proud of this kid.
Just shows up and competes that compete.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
I love that. I love that. That's awesome, man, that's awesome.
There's nothing I told my son this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
He's eighteen, but he he's in the semi finals of
his golf club championship yesterday, okay, and he he suffered
a tough loss to a good friend of his who
was the defending champ.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
We're no longer friends. No, I never tell you exactly
they weren't. They weren't for about an hour and a half,
of course.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
But I mean, my god, it was one of them
like it was a heavy way bout and he was up,
and then he was up, and then he was up,
and it was just the beauty of watching your kid play.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
There is nothing like you. There's nothing better, absolutely nothing better.
So I love that. I'm glad you shared that man.
All Right.

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Ss dot Com coming up next. We all know the
Bengals should trade. The question is should they be buying
or selling. We'll talk that out coming up on Fox
Sports Radio. All Right, got a football game here in Buffalo,
five and a half to go, third quarter, A personal

(01:38:09):
foul on the Patriots is gonna set the Bills up
with a first down, with a real good field position,
but short time ago Rimandre Stevenson into the end zone
and the Patriots lead this one thirteen to ten. I'm
glad both teams have decided to use the end zones.
They didn't in the first half. Now we're getting somewhere,

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Span you're starting doing their thing. We'll have Steve di
Saga along in a few minutes. Do not get it twisted.
Do not look at your phone at the end of
the night and go oh, Jamar Chase, the number one
overall pick in the draft. He carried me to a victory.
Six catches, one hundred and ten yards, two touchdowns. Hey,

(01:39:20):
maybe this Jake Browning thing has got a little legs
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Don't do that. Don't do that. Go watch the game.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
The Lions were up twenty eight to three at the
end of three quarters, and this thing got put on
absolute cruise control. Browning was picked three times, he fumbled
another time, was lucky enough that his teammate recovered it,
and those two and Ozero Bengals are now very predictably

(01:39:49):
two and three. Because of those weird division records we
talked about earlier. Some are suggesting, you know, what the
Bengals need to do. They didn't trade for Russell Wilson
or Kirk Cousins. Others might suggest, Nah, you probably should
like send Trey Hendrickson to a different team and build

(01:40:12):
some draft picks is what you should do. Don't go
chasing something that's clearly not going to happen. What would
you do if you were talking to the Sincy front office.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
Look, there's an opportunity for them here if they had
a quarterback, a viable quarterback. Now, we're just going to
assume that Joe Burrow's done for the year, right he
had toll surgery. Yep, we don't know. I think IRS
was seven weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Well, IR is an automatic four. But the word on
the word on Joe was somewhere in the neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Of ten weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Yeah, because you're looking at a Christmas return if everything
goes perfectly.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Yeah, but it's it's so just so here we are
right because the division is the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Right if.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
The Baltimore Ravens were the Baltimore Ravens they had been,
and the Steelers were, well they are, They're leading the
division by a mile. Then I would say, okay, But
because Baltimore still has a shot, you would suggest they do.
They just don't have the quarterback. Now, with that said,

(01:41:31):
if they go get Kirk Cousins or someone else Jake
Browning is not it would they be better. Well, there's
a learning curve there, like Kirk Cousins couldn't come in
and run the offense at the highest level because he
hasn't been there, but we do know he can get
the ball down the field. So if I'm the front office,

(01:41:56):
I'm positioning myself number one, I do trade.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
For draft capital, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
And I'm positioning myself to have a top five draft
pick this year, and now I can flip the team.
The receivers aren't going anywhere, Joe's not going anywhere. I
can go get me a first round offensive lineman and
another edge rusher or a big, thick d tackle space

(01:42:27):
eater or a corner with the other first round draft pick,
and bolster my defense with the remaining of the draft.
That's what I would do. That way, you don't have
to spend money that you don't want to spend anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Dig ding. That is a correct answer. That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
I don't know what necessarily what it is that Bengals
would be chasing, Like sure, maybe something goes hey, why
are you come out of that division and and and
do what and and do what with the Bills, with
everything that is offered out of the AFC West, and
even the Colts, like, let's go ahead and say it now,

(01:43:14):
the Indianapolis deal, that's the real deal. That's that's obviously
a very very good football team.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
You don't have a top five defense, They're going to
steamroll you and there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
The Detroit Lions had four incompletions today and they even
started letting running backs throw the ball four incompletions.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
That defense is not a viable defense.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
You can put any quarterback you want back there, and
the Bengals are not going to win football games. So yeah,
I'm with you, it's trade time. But they need to
be taking calls, not making calls. Yeah, but it's time
for us to make a call. Yeah, we're gonna call
Steve de Seger ring ring ring, and we're gonna put

(01:43:53):
him in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Hello, Hello, hi Steve. Hello, what are you doing right now?
I thought maybe you could go over and, you know,
do some stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:44:02):
Is there football on there is?

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Okay, sure. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:44:06):
By the way, you were talking about how the Yankees
are in trouble here.

Speaker 9 (01:44:09):
They did lose thirteen to seven to the Blue Jays,
down two games to none and the best of five.
It turns out the Blue Jays have scored the most
runs through the first two games of any single postseason
in Major League history. Quite a start, twenty three total runs,
grand slam from Vladimir Guerrero Junior. And on FS one
there's a bowl game right now. The Mariners blew the

(01:44:30):
two to nothing lead top of the eighth. They've just
gotten it back with Julia Rodriguez RBI double bottom of
the eighth, three to two against Detroit, trying to even
the best of five at a game apiece. And guys,
it's appropriate we have an offensive lineman here on the show,
because I don't think this gets talked enough about in football.
A lack of an offensive line or defense getting consistent

(01:44:53):
pressure on a quarterback.

Speaker 8 (01:44:54):
Just blows up an offense.

Speaker 9 (01:44:56):
You can take all your plans and all your practices
and all you they thought you were gonna do during
the week, and it all flies out the window. And
that's what we've seen with the Chargers the last two
to three weeks. They wound up losing, blowing a ten
to nothing lead, losing to Washington twenty seven to ten.
Jacory Krosskey Merritt of the Commanders, on fourteen carries, had
one hundred eleven yards and two scores. Justin Herbert just

(01:45:20):
in the last three weeks has been hit thirty five times.
They are missing both their tackles and a guard. And
by the way, Washington was pretty good after the first quarter.
They only had one first down in the first quarter.
They were the better team after the opening period. Veteran
defensive back Marshawn Lattimore had forty one coverage snaps against

(01:45:41):
the Charger offense today.

Speaker 8 (01:45:42):
He allowed one catch one.

Speaker 9 (01:45:44):
There's a Sunday night game going on in Buffalo and
the Patriots are in the lead thirteen to ten late
third quarter against the Bills. Josh Allen one touchdown pass
and one interception thrown. Drake May over one hundred and
fifty yards passing for New England Antonio Gibbon left with
a knee injury. There was a New England field goal,
a nineteen yarder like the old days, on the final

(01:46:06):
play of the first half, that got him a six
to three lead. Because of that, they are up three
at the moment late in the third. The Lions win
was thirty seven to twenty four over the Bengals. The
Titans were down twenty one to three in the second
quarter and still got win number one of the season,
edging the Cardinals twenty two to twenty one. Another thriller

(01:46:27):
for the Tampa Bay Bucks and another win for Baker
Mayfield and company. They beat the Seahawks thirty eight to
thirty five on a thirty nine yard field goal. Mayfield
three hundred seventy nine yards passing and two scores. Dallas
got four touchdown passes from Dak Prescott and beat the
winless Jets. Saints got win number one, shut out the
Giants in the second half and beat him twenty six

(01:46:48):
to fourteen. Panthers came back to defeat Miami twenty seven
to twenty four. Rico dowdle for the Panthers two hundred
six yards rushing and a touchdown. The Texans got four
td passes from Cjson Drought and beat the Ravens forty
four to eleven.

Speaker 8 (01:47:03):
Come back in the.

Speaker 9 (01:47:03):
Fourth quarter, the Broncos outscored the Eagles eighteen nothing in
the fourth, handing Phillyot's first loss of the young season
twenty one seventeen. Jonathan Taylor of the Colts three touchdown
runs Colts forty to six over the Raiders, and the
NFL days started in London with about thirty seconds left,
go ahead touchdown pass from the Vikings and Carson Wentz

(01:47:24):
and they beat the Browns twenty one to seventeen. WNBA Finals.
Las Vegas aces two games to none leaders after beating
Phoenix again. The new AP College Football Poll is out
and it's Ohio State, Miami, and Oregon the top three.
Penn State and Texas are completely out of the AP
Top twenty five for the first time in a few years.

(01:47:46):
They were top ten teams this past week, but they
did lose to unranked opponents, and you could talk about
this day in the NFL this way. The Titans were
down eighteen and came back to win. Carolina was down
seven came back to win. Broncos were down fourteen came
back to win. Saints were down eleven, came back to win,

(01:48:07):
and I mentioned Washington was down ten to nothing late
first half and came back to win. First time in
almost a full year. We've had five comebacks of at
least ten points, and we're not done yet. Of course,
We've not only got the Monday night game coming up
a bit later Kansas City at Jacksonville, but we still
got the full fourth quarter coming up at Buffalo. And

(01:48:27):
currently it is a Patriots lead, shockingly thirteen to ten
against a Buffalo team that is wearing uniforms completely devoid
of the color blue back.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
To you, completely devoid, and the crowd is not much different.
We got blue. Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Allen with a red zone pick at a big moment,
stop the presses.

Speaker 9 (01:48:52):
And Stefan Diggs against Buffalo in Buffalo has been targeted
ten times by the Patriots tonight. He has eight catches
four yards.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
And I've noticed that it seems like he has something
to say about that after a lot of these catches.

Speaker 8 (01:49:09):
Well, he's just got another.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
Is there some sort of history here between them? You
think between.

Speaker 9 (01:49:17):
A boy he officially through three quarters now thirteen to ten,
Pats have the ball and the lead.

Speaker 8 (01:49:23):
New England has chance to go to three and two
winning record.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Early.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
See there you go and uh yeah it's a first down,
first down catch to uh to uh to Diggs and
uh yeah he is.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
It's interesting, man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
You know, like we were talking earlier about Jordan Addison
and that's another franchise that once upon a time had
Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
Look, he's a very very talented receiver. I get it.
He's got his side of the story.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
And you always want to whoever gives up on you,
you're gonna want to beat them.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
I get it. But like, I don't know, man, And
how many organizations does it take to be.

Speaker 8 (01:50:03):
Like what's the common denominator?

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
We don't want you here anymore? And now what are
you gonna do? You're gonna go back to half the
league and be like showed you. I don't know, man,
I don't know. Stefan Diggs for me sometimes a little
bit of.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
A tough watch.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
Yeah he is. He's very talented, super talented, very talented.
But you know, if he can stay healthy, he's definitely
gonna help New England a lot. Until he doesn't and
that's the story, right, like, no, the talent I got you,

(01:50:40):
I got right.

Speaker 8 (01:50:41):
So he was gonna help Houston until he didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
Until he didn't, Right, he got hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
He was off to a really good start promising looked great.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
He got hurt and.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
You know that's that's how it goes. They spent New England,
spend a lot of money on him, spent a lot
of money on them. And look he can He's a
route runner, he can catch all of those things. Is
he a team leader? They bringing him in there for that? Yeah,
you know what I mean, So you know, shout out

(01:51:15):
to him. You know, got a baby on the way
with Cardi b So got a lot going on, lots
going on.

Speaker 9 (01:51:23):
The team leader a wide receiver, of course, is the
guy in Philly who got eight more targets again today,
aj Brown right back to the book.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Very well played. Yeah, I mean I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
Maybe he from you and I should actually do a
segment every Sunday night at the end of the show
called these receivers, those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
And then just pick whichever three or four that day.
We're like, dude, what we got going on here?

Speaker 8 (01:51:52):
So yeah, a big mark on last night's show.

Speaker 9 (01:51:55):
Literally, we brought this up about wide receivers and the
word diva was used, and my point is that it's
really just sprinters in general. They happen to be wide receivers,
but look at the Olympic sprinters. Yeah, it's just sprinters.
I know, wide receivers get a bad rap, and sometimes deservedly,
so what we're talking.

Speaker 8 (01:52:13):
About, but there's the more general point to be made.
They do something that nobody else can do, and they
know it so.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Well said, and look, they're fancy. We love them, we
root for them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
They're a big part of what we do as you know, gamblers,
fantasy players, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
Every single weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
They are the faces of some of their teams like
football players will helmets. We don't actually recognize most of them.
We know who these guys are, so I get it.
I get it, their performers, all of these things. But
I love what you said earlier from about aj Brown
and DeVante Smith. We're guessing a little bit, but I
think we have a point. Like they're unhappy, and their

(01:52:54):
unhappiness came out right in the middle of a seventeen
game win stream. That's not unhappy time, Oh lord, that's
and I know there's a lot of receivers who don't
fit this bill, and it's probably ten percent of the guys,
and then they all get branded that way.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
I've always loved the stories you've told about Andre Johnson, and.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
That's why he's the go, right, That's why he's one
of the greatest receivers ever.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Right, because he's a team guy. And he wasn't one
of these guys. And he was quiet, he wasn't a
me guy. But man Jordan Addison and AJ Brown and
you know now here we are watching Digs.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
We'll see who wins this game.

Speaker 9 (01:53:31):
But and I would add, with Andre Johnson Hall of
Fame talent, he kind of had to be a team
guy in that situation. That was still a recent expansion
to you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Yeah, no, in the Hall of Fame with no other
Hall of Fame player or quarterback. I think he's the only.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Receiver surrounding him on that roster.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Yeah, And there goes Digs to the four. There you go,
And I bet he'll be pissed if he doesn't catch
the touchdown next.

Speaker 9 (01:53:58):
He is up to nine catches, one thirty four. We've
just started the fourth quarter at Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Nice night for him. I bet this feels pretty good,
feels great. It's gonna be luck.

Speaker 9 (01:54:09):
When we were talking about Derrick Henry on the show
on opening night and then he literally hasn't had as
many yards total on the ground the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Of the season since that night, we were like, he's dominant,
you can't stop him. And then our show ended and
always done his fumble over and over since that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
Good lord, right, since then, three fumbles.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Geez man, all right, the Patriots are threatening and we
will keep you up to date. Great stuff tonight. Steve
appreciates you as always. We're live in the Fox Sports
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(01:55:12):
so it will always pop up at the top of
your screen. Look, Steve said it short time ago, five
games where a double digit deficit was overcome today, So
this may end up becoming the sixth eleven minute mark,
and the Patriots lead the Bills twenty to ten, but
the Bills are driving in Patriots territory, So sure they

(01:55:37):
may end up winning this football game.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
But if not, how about that? And what does that
say to you? If five weeks in we're already out
of undefeated teams.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
It's a lot of parody going on, but it harkens
back to what I was talking about in the first hour.
Decision making in coaching is changed. You don't no one's
protecting leads anymore. We're caught up in the numbers and
analytics and what you should do. And right, if you're

(01:56:12):
up by two scorers are a score and you decide
not to add three points to that for whatever reason,
then what are you doing? So you get situations where
you allow a team to get back in a game.

(01:56:36):
We see it more and more because more and more
teams are putting either their defense or their offense in
tough situations. So really, no lead is safe. Turn over here,
turn over there, PI, And so you find yourself in

(01:56:59):
a situation and where.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
You're still in it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
You you're you just teams believe they're still in it
because teams leave points on the on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
Yep, that's an interesting take. You you really think that's
a big piece of it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
I think it's a huge piece of it. How many
times have we set here, you and I countless over
the years, You and I set here and something like that,
You don't take the field goal, you don't and the
game comes down to two points, one point loss, three
point loss. And we say, well, they went for it

(01:57:37):
twice on fourth down, didn't get anything. That's six points.
They went for a two point conversion, that's another point.
They lost by two. Yeah, they lost by one. This
is what This is a real thing. I'm not making
this up.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
And you know, and it's it's funny too, because I
think the reason people don't think about it after the
fact is their mind has already moved past that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Yeah, because it can happen early in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
I remember everything, right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
But they're expecting. In fact, they're annoyed if you don't
do those things. They're annoyed if you don't do those things.
I'll tell you this like one of the things Kyle
Shanahan's out here. He's four and one. He's had three
games without his quarterback. He hasn't had his tight end
the entire year. The receivers meet each other every single week.

(01:58:30):
Yet he's four and one, and one of the reasons
people are like giving him credit. It's not even for
the four and one record to giving him credit because
he's going for it on fourth down more now, it
hasn't really hurt them so far this year. They've they've
got a very good percentage. But I was watching that
Cincinnati Detroit game earlier today and right at halftime, the

(01:58:53):
Bengals had a fourth and one from about the thirty
three thirty four yard line in Lion's territory, and they
got over the they got over the center and ready
to snap the ball, and the crowd is getting ready
because they're going for it on fourth down, just a
few seconds left to go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
In the first half.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
And instead of snapping the ball, what Jake Browning did
was he just sat there and he tried to draw
the Lions offside. They didn't bite, and the clock whittled
all the way down to three seconds, and they called
time out and then they kicked the field goal, and
this fan base booed them, booed them out of the building.

(01:59:40):
And I'm sitting there going, I know you're drunk, but
do you realize that all of you are wrong? Like,
of course you kick the three, even if you get
the first down, you get a first down at the
thirty with twenty seconds left to go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Like, yeah, man taking points now has a bad rap.

Speaker 3 (02:00:03):
Yeah, I'm real points and take my wins. Points you
leave on the field in the first quarter have a
mysterious way of coming back to haunt you in the fourth.
Tell me I'm wrong, Tell me I'm a liar.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
You are not wrong, You are not a liar. But
you are watching a close game. Kean Coleman touchdown, Buffalo Bills.
We got ourselves. Excellent plank and spend you'll bring you
through the end of this one. Have a good night, everyone,

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