Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam React to the Lakers Going Down 3-1, Shedeur's Fall & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, we're in the midst of game.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
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(00:28):
tonight on Fox Sports Sunday Mark withard ephrom Salam. So
glad you're with us, whatever you're doing and wherever you
may be as the weekend comes to a close.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
But I sort of think about this moment.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
With my guy Eve from I think about this the
way all of us played basketball on the playground when
we were kids, when we were by ourselves.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You remember that you'd grab the ball.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
You'd have a bunch of pretend ghost defenders on the floor.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You were better than all of them. You would dribble
around and you.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Would pretend that you were coming down to the last
shot and you had to make it. You had to
make it or the game was over. And you let
fly and it hits the back iron and you'd.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Go hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
He was fouled, and then therefore, of course moved the
gold posts a little bit. And I'd like to refer
back to what happened before we left our show yesterday afternoon,
when you said to me the Lakers could not win
this series if they did not win today. And they

(01:34):
did not win today, do you still feel like they
are now done or do.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
You still see a light at the end of the tunnel. Well,
I think they can't win the series that was. You know,
I'm not just talking when I'm giving these these takes
or these proclamations. No, I don't think that they can
come back from a three to one deficit against a
team as young than them, more athletic than them.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I thought they needed to split in Minnesota to have
a chance.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
They did not.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Minnesota's already shown that they can win on the Lakers floor.
So them coming back on Wednesday and feeling confident enough
to win, now, probably Lakers.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Win that game.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Probably, But coming down the stretch, it's just a situation
where there's some things that are being done or that
are happening that I don't think they can fix. Starting
with you know, coaching, I'm not going to let him

(02:45):
off the hook. I let him off the hook after
Game one. But I'm not going to let him off
the hook. Now, you can't play You're a forty year
old no matter what he says, the entire game and
have him score zero points in the fourth quarter when
it matters the most. You have a nine point league
going into the fourth quarter. You gotta sit him for

(03:08):
the first three minutes of the basketball game of the
the fourth quarter. You have to with a nine point league,
you have to Luca's gotta be able to weather the
storm until he comes back in.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I agree with that. And so it's just a.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Little coaching things like that, like you would say, oh, well,
that's that's easy enough. Why did he do that? And
so now I'm he's a rookie coach. He's never coached
at this level before and in this environment. So when
you're making mistakes like that, it makes me scratch my
head and it's like that can't happen. You have to

(03:47):
know that as much basketball and as much of a
savant JJ Reddick is in terms of basketball and then
playoff series, and you have to know that no matter
what Lebron says, you have to be like, no, no, no,
I need you to take these three We're gonna slow
it down, all right, We're gonna try to stop them,
get a stop, and we're gonna walk the ball up.

(04:08):
But you got to give me these three so I
can have you at least a little bit fresher coming
down the stretch. You got to be able to have
that conversation. And if you don't have the conversation, then
you're not coaching, right, And that's what I saw.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Lebron's played forty six minutes. As you said, Luca did
too too much.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Can't do it guy coming off illness.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Him a question though, My question is, and look, every
every one of these series has its own personality. But
if you do look around the league, what is the
umbrella topic that's being asked and talked about, and that
is physicality, yes, and how that relates to officiating and
all of those things. And what you're seeing is, for instance,

(04:51):
if you want to get in a Vegas angle at
this the over under for NBA basketball games during the
regular season was fluctuated, usually around two hundred and twenty,
maybe two hundred and thirty, hell two hundred and forty.
For some games when those teams don't play any defense,
go out there, you get to the playoffs, and all

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of a sudden we're down to two hundred two to five.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
This game today.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Between the Wolves and the Lakers went to add it
up two hundred and twenty nine in these playoffs. This
is an incredibly high scoring game. My concern, and it
is what you and I have talked about at length
over the last few weeks since the trade deadline. You're
gonna get thirty eight from Luca with five threes. You're

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gonna get twenty seven, twelve and eight from Lebron James.
You're gonna get five threes from Austin Reeves. And then
when you say, well did anybody else step up? Oh,
you got twenty three points and five threes from Ruey Hachimura.

(05:58):
You as a team shot over forty percent from beyond the.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Arc and you lost.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Not good.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
This is a problem, serious problem. And this again the
larger picture I get.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
So I'm not this is not a cherry pick or
a gravy train. But that doesn't happen in my opinion,
if Anthony Davis is on the team. That's been my
thing the whole time. They are more prolific offensively, they
are less prolific defensively, and I had concerns on how

(06:40):
that would play in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, you make some good points, but I think and
you may be right, but the fact that you have
Luca All, you know, all NBA guy for the last
five years, first team and Lebron James, an all time great,
you gotta figure it out.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, gotta figure it out.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
I mean, it's that's like, well, if they had the
no no, no, no, no, no, you have two possible
all time greats, one and they're not even in his
prime yet getting there and one still holding on and
beating by the time, with more playoff experience than the
entire Minnesota's team.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
And so.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
It's it's that's inexcusable. It's inexcusable. And they played extremely
hard and they played extremely physical the whole game. As
a coach, you got to be able to manage your team.
That's the point. What was the coach's name for the

(07:43):
Lakers when uh Kobe blew out his achilles He came
from the Suns and the Rockets. Steven d'antonies. You gotta
remember the year Kobe Bryant blue his achilles out. He
was leading in the League of minutes. How one of
the oldest players in the league. How how do you

(08:04):
allow that to happen? Well, it was Kobe. He's going no, no, no, no,
And man, you gotta sit down. Yep, you gotta sit down.
You have to be able to be that guy. Now
to that point, you can't take away the blame of
turning the ball over.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Again. We just saw this about a month ago.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, so to be an all time great what we
do know is all time greats, in my opinion, best
players in the league, in my opinion, don't make that
mistake at that time.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I hear you.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
That's just what I'm just gonna no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
And there have been a few of those this year.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You oh yeah, that Bulls game where a good lord,
you know, right, the nine they where the Bulls scored
nine points in the last six seconds.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Of the game or whatever it was. There have been
a few of those.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
This one just came obviously an incredibly high profile time.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Now I could zoom out tell you.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
That with how much Lebron handles the ball, I don't
think three turnovers in a game is a greedious no.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
When they happened, yes, yes, yes, that's that.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Lebron had one turnover last last game. Do you remember
when it happened?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Not off the top of my head, but a bit
you do.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
They had got to stop in the fourth quarter, they
were coming down.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
They threw the ball on Lebron.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
He literally caught the ball and handed it to the defender.
In the fourth quarter, they came down and scored his
one turnover. Doesn't matter the number, it's when it happens.
If that happens in the first quarter, care well, and okay.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I'll tell you something too about bad turnovers. I never
really thought about it this way, like great players have
the ball in their hands a lot, and so their
turnover numbers can be high and and and and all
of that. But when they get sloppy or really kind
of wonky, maybe that does actually mean fatigue.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Oh it is, That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, they like this really kind of got my mind
going on this About four weeks ago. Uh, Steph Curry
had one of those nights where it was just like, dude,
what are you doing? Like what is this? What are
these decisions? This is so sloppy and he's prone to
a lot of turnovers. Anyway, you know that that that
team does a lot of this, that and the other,

(10:25):
flying around in different directions, so they're prone to the turnover.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
They always have been. But he had an especially.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Bad night, and H and Steve Kerr went to his
locker after the game and said, you're you're taking tomorrow
night off? Yeah, And Steph said, I don't want to
take tomorrow night off. Now that's nice. I'm glad you
don't want to take tomorrow night off. You're taking tomorrow
night off because I can tell you need an emotional
mental reset.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
And it worked. The Warriors actually won the game.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Without him against Giannis and and it launched them into
a pretty good finish to the year and obviously a
playoff berth and so. And we'll get to them and
what they did without Jimmy Butler last night a little
bit later. But I wonder, you make an interesting point
to talk about forty six minutes for a forty year old.

(11:16):
And I get it, the Lakers played with that attitude
of we have to win tonight and so your best
are expected to do that. But you wonder, does that
turnover happen if he had gotten a little rest at
the start of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
We'll never know. But it's it's a fair take.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I don't think it.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
I I don't know if it would have happened or not,
but I know his legs would have been fresher. He
wouldn't have been just standing on the perimeter watching Luca
get double teamed at half court and turn the ball over. Yep,
he's gonna keep walking right into that one.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Look, I'm not a coach, right, but I can see right.
I know basketball enough to where I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay,
well let's adjust to that. How do we adjust to it?
We just keep doing it over and over again. That's
a problem for me. It's a problem for me for
someone with a basketball IQ as high as as as

(12:18):
as JJ Redick and and and Luca and Lebron. I'm
not gonna keep First of all, I would stop sending
the screen number one, if they're not if they're just
going to double off the screen, I wouldn't send the
screen the moment I stepped over half court. You don't

(12:41):
have anywhere to retreat on the double. We saw that
several times in a row, and so as I'm watching
as a fan, I'm like, oh, okay, well we're gonna
adjust to that. Oh no, same thing. Humh well it
turned it over again. I know they're not. Oh well, no,
they did it again. That's the problem I'm having. Luca

(13:05):
can handle the ball well enough to not need a
screen at half court. It's easy to double someone at
half court, impossible, to double them at the three point line.
In the middle of the court impossible. That's the problem
I'm having with the adjustments that aren't being made. Yeah,

(13:25):
like you said, it's my team. I'm hyper critical and
I know basketball.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, that's fine, that's fair, And we're in a moment,
and listen, the series is not over yet. But I
know you also think they're not going to be able
to come back, and.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
So they're not young enough.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, I wonder if it does go that way, and
you're right, and obviously the stats suggest the Lakers are
highly unlikely to come back in this series.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
So if they don't, what's.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
The overall takeaway of the season and the moment they're in.
Lebron is forty, Luca is here. What's the takeaway? I wonder,
and I'd love to ask you that next we're in
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Speaker 2 (15:11):
With me from some on, Mark Willard. Okay, a few things.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
First off, Boston up by five in Orlando at half.
Steve will have more on that coming up in less
than ten minutes. Boston trying to take a three to
one lead. That's what the Knicks did earlier today. More
on that in a freaking second, because they stole one
they didn't deserve. The Tea Wolves took a three to

(15:34):
one lead on the Lakers, and we're talking about that
right now. And he from, I wonder if you'll remember
what did I call the Tea Wolves all year long?
What did I say about them? Do you remember.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
What did you say the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, in all of the NBA, all of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Are the they should be better than the team. He yes, okay,
And and they're good. Forty nine wins is good. The
sixth seed is good. But dog, I look at that
roster and I know, you know, this is one of
those things. Lakers are the big three seed and the

(16:16):
Minnesota is the sixth seed one game apart. We know
the Western Conference. Yeah, the whole thing is just a
big jumble, do you know what? Like they're all very.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Good, but literally all two seeds and no doubt seed, no.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Doubt except for I'd actually even argue that Houston. I mean,
Memphis is Memphis, but but Houston, Houston's phenomenal. But they're
so young, they're so young that it's just like I
don't think you're you're quite ready.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
To advance through all this thing. But yes, they're all.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Good teams, so I don't consider this some sort of
a of a huge upset to to this point.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
But when I watched that.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Roster, Ephraim, Dude, they've got answers for everything. They've got
answers everything that you need in a roster, from height
to strength, to experience to a star player to shooting
to a defensive stopper.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Dude, they've got everything.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Well, they spent some time building out this roster, and
a lot of people thought when they got rid of Cat,
and you know it would bringing getting rid of Cat
and bringing in Julius Randall was a huge move because
as you could see now, he wasn't with him for
the playoffs last year. He was hurt for New York.

(17:33):
But you can see his presence, his physical presence, his
defensive presence is something that he's like a Tasmanian devil. Now,
sometimes he can get little bit out of control, yep,
like most left handed players, or if you're playing at
the park, you know, if there's a guy at the
park who got dreads, watch out, he might bust your lip.

(17:56):
But he's one of those guys and he's not going
to back down. He's not gonna do any of that.
He's gonna continue to play hard. This is a big
moment for him, Like this is a big moment for
him moving forward in his career. And not to mention
this was a team that gave up on him, who
drafted him uh and then replaced him.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
So he's got a lot to play for.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
They have a super duperstar and Anthony Edward w too
got better from last year.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Uh, he can get to his mid range shot.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
He's shooting, you know, shot more threes and made more
threes than Steph actually did.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
This year.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
So this is a young man who's on the cusp
of becoming great, whether he wants to be the face
of the NBA or not. He's playing with the level
of of confidence that you need if you're gonna if
you're gonna lead a super if you're gonna lead the
team as a superstar. And so yeah, they have shooting
off the bench, they have they have long wing defenders UH,

(18:55):
and they have a guy who can alter shots in
the middle uh and Rudy Gobert. So they've been shout
out to dal Dimpson, the staff and the GMS and
all of them over there who have put this team together.
They put it together to make a deep playoff run.
I just didn't want it to be at our expense.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah yeah, I mean it was not a perfect matchup
draw by any stretch for either of these teams.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
And it doesn't matter, right, and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
We still got to show up and show out and
come to play, and we haven't done that in three games.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
All right.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
So, going into the NBA Playoffs, there were five teams that,
according to the data, the numbers, the gambling markets, that
were the five teams that had the best shot to actually.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Win it all. You start with the three teams whose
record screams it at.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You, the Thunder, the Celtics, and the Cavs, and then
you add in two more teams because of their experience,
pedigree and buckets of rings that they have, which is
basically Lebron and Steph Curry. And so that's what Vegas
told us, Lakers Warriors, along with Calves, Celtics, Thunder, the

(20:12):
Champion is probably going to be one of those teams,
and it very well probably still is. But to be
one of those teams, and if the Lakers are a
first round out with a whole story of where we've
been this year.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
What's your takeaway on the state of everything.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
I think what I thought at the beginning, which was
I think the West is loaded. I think the route
in the East is far less stressful. It just seems
you look at the Celtics run through the East last year.

(21:00):
I mean, anyone coming out of the East, I don't
know if they'll be battle tested. Now, if this Eastern
Conference Final comes down to Cleveland and Boston, then we'll,
you know, it'll it'll be intense. But up until then,

(21:24):
it clearly you know, Boston, no matter how hard Orlando's
fighting and fighting in this game and trying to stay relevant.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
And all of that.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Right now, yeah, exactly, it's the Boston is a superior team.
They can go twelve deep, and all twelve of those
guys can play, and they have championship experience, and and
and and they're riding out in Cleveland. Got the defensive
player of the year, you got size, you got shooting,
you got two backcourt mates who can burn down any defense.

(21:58):
So those are the two prom here there now in
the East. I mean, excuse me, the West. Hey, you
know before this game I would have been like, yeah,
you know the Warriors and the Lakers. I love what
the Warriors are doing. It shows you down the stretch
that experience matters. Shot making matters, team and ball movement matters.

(22:21):
Draymond Green Green is a playing tremendous in this series
in terms of defensively. His numbers won't show it, but
he is the lynch pin that has them going. And
Steph is just being Steph boy. When he started to
heat up and in that second half, you was like,
uh oh, you already knew what time it was. And

(22:41):
they don't have an answer for him. Sway too much
ball movement for them to even understand. They haven't even
seen that enough. As young as that team is, they
haven't even seen that level of ball movement fighting over
two three, four screens in one possession, right, and then

(23:02):
when you you stay with Steph back door, you know
GP two dunk yep. And so they have an answer.
They're well coach, they have an answer for everything you
want to do defensively, and I think it's given.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Houston fits right now.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I do wonder the state and again we're getting ahead
of ourselves. But if it's a first round out and
Lebron heads for a forty first birthday. What is the
state of of everything after the trade and whatnot with
the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'd love to get into that. We can do that
coming up next.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
You were mentioning the greatness of some of the players
who stand out in the playoffs, and when you do that,
it makes me think of Steve de Sager. That's what
it does. It makes me think of Steve de Sager.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Hi, Hi, Steve? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
And how to eat to you?

Speaker 7 (23:53):
And as you mentioned, it's possible the Lakers could be
out in the first round. That would end year seven
of Lebron with the Lakers, and it would mean in
those seven seasons with LA out in the first round
three times and missed the playoffs entirely two other times,
finishing under five hundred both of those seasons one title,
and once a couple of years ago got to the

(24:15):
West Finals and got swept. Those are the postseason marks.
That's the resume of his seventh You don't.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Get a statue for that.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Nope, that is a note. Do you get a mural
or like, no, we're moving on.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
We're moving on.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
But it's only three games to one Minnesota after today's
win over the Lakers one, sixteen to one thirteen. Minnesota
trailed by seven with five minutes to go. Anthony Edwards
forty three points, Luka Doncic with thirty eight Lebron James
twenty seven points, twelve rebounds.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Eight assists.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
New York up three games to one after the win
at Detroit ninety four to ninety three. Jalen Brunson thirty
two points, eleven assists, Kay Cunningham of the Pistons at
triple double, seven turnovers as well, and yes, the referees
afterwards admitted a foul should have been called on New
York at the end on Detroit's three point attempt. Sure
they'll sleep well after that. Boston is leading sixty two

(25:08):
fifty eight at Orlando's they approach mid third quarter, Celtics
trying to go up three games to one, seventeen points
for Jason Tatum. Boston from three point range is five
of twenty one, but they're the Celtics, so they'll keep
shooting it. As for Orlando, Pollo Banco with twenty points
so far in the late game. In an hour, Pacers
will try to go up three games to one. Playing

(25:29):
at Milwaukee to the NHL Playoffs, Saint Louis a five
to one winner over Winnipeg. Carolina got a five to
two victory at New Jersey. Currently at Montreal, the Canadians
have gone ahead two to one after two periods against
the Caps and coming up in an hour the late
game LA at Edmonton. Kings lead the series two games
to one. Austin Sindric won the NASCAR Race at Talladega.

(25:51):
Ryan Priest was a close second. Next Sunday's event will
be on FS one from Texas. Joaquin Neeman took the
Live Gulf event in Mexico to Major League Baseball Tonight
at Wrigley Field. To the sixth inning, Cubs and Phillies
tied at one. The Yankees swept a double header from
Toronto eleven to two and five to one. In the nightcap,
Aaron Judge hit his eighth home run Detroit with a

(26:14):
record of eighteen and ten after shutting out Baltimore's seven nothing,
Trek Schooble to win with eleven strikeouts in six innings,
The Giants are nineteen and ten after a run on
the bottom of the ninth got him a win over
Texas three to two. Tampa Bay one at San Diego
four to two, and the Dodgers beat Pittsburgh nine to two.
But LA starter Tyler Glasnow, who left his previous start

(26:35):
due to leg cramps, left after one inning today due
to a sore shoulder. He'd had back in elbow problems
last year.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Back to you, all right, great stuff, Steve.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I don't know if you saw this today, but just
as somebody who used to coach.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Little league old the winner for San francisc Yes.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Have you ever seen a major league game end on
a little league home run?

Speaker 7 (26:55):
It was actually referred to in one headline I saw
as a little league home run?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Little league home run? Yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
A tapper to the to the left of the mound,
lead off first pitch at the bottom of the ninth
of a two to two game, tapper to the left
side of the mound.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Pitcher bare hands, it hucks it into right field.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
It heads to a spot that allows the runner to
not just go to second, but try to go to third.
Throw the third flies right by the third baseman, heads
down the left field line, go home, young man.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Ball game, and at one point the batter was just
coasting into second.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Wait totally yeah, he didn't know. He didn't even know
he's going to go to third. He was like coasting
in a second. He looked up at the third base
coaches like get your ass down here, and so he
kept running and then that forced another throw that that
one went wild as well, And we've all watched that.
It's just usually Saturday morning in a crowd of about
twelve people, some parents that you know, and maybe some

(27:57):
nachos from the snack stand.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
The Pittsburgh Pirates had a similar type thing today where
two wild throws on the same play and the Dodgers
came around and immediately Joe Davis at the microphone said,
you know, it is Little League Day here at the stadium.
We have thousands of how appropriate that a run scores that,
But the Giants are just ahead of the Padres and
Dodgers so far. That's how good the start has been

(28:21):
for this team.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well, well, we've talked about that National League West.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
It is absolutely crazy, and it doesn't seem like it's
slowing down a whole heck of a lot, even those
those fourth place Diamondbacks have a fifteen to thirteen records.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
No, this way, if the Diamondbacks had a winning percentage
of six hundred, they would still be in fourth place.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
There was a moment like a week ago, Steve, you
may have noticed, they literally had the four best records
in baseball. The Diamondbacks were tied for the fourth best
record in base king.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Speaking of the Diamondbacks in the late game last night,
one of their players, a U Hennio Suarez, hit four
home runs in a game. Just to put that in
context in baseball history, this is about one hundred and
fifty years of Major League baseball. It is more rare
to pitch a perfect game than to have a guy
hit four home runs in a game. It's happened less

(29:13):
than twenty times in the one hundred and fifty plus years.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
And the guy in four.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Straight at bats hit it out each time, and the
fourth time was the tying homer to lead off the
bottom of the ninth, and then they lost in the tenth.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Anyway, they lost. They lost the game.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, lost the game and not supposed to lose when Yeah,
that's like, that's that's like having somebody go for sixty
points in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah, and lose.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Might happened last night, had literally happened once in the
modern era of baseball that you have.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
A guy that hits four home runs and still won.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I love it. Thank you, Steve. We'll talk to you
hear in a bit.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
No, I want to get to this Pistons next thing too,
But like, what is your answer to that? Like, if
the Lakers do lose either Game five or Game six,
where does this leave them going?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I think it's time to move on into the new
direction that they've already started.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
So you know what does that mean?

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, it's time to focus on the pieces you need
to put around Luca if obviously it's going to be
his team moving forward. So we need two athletic bigs
to come in. We need some real, live perimeter shooters,
and we need well, you know, you got Austin Reeves,

(30:32):
so you do have another guard who can create their
own shot. But we need some some some big time shooters.
I like Rory, but you know it's time to get
another dominant you know, forward, to add to to that

(30:52):
minus Lebron jabs.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
Are you okay?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
So Lebron's got a player option for next year fifty.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, I'm sure he's gonna take it, right, So, I.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Mean, you're not suggesting, are you trying.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
To trade him or no trade class? Right?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
So what do you? I mean? But he may approve
it if that's.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Well, yeah, with doubt it send him to where he
wants to go. What does he want to go?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
What if he wants to stay?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, but I'm saying if they're like, hey, Golden State
wants you, he'd go to play. He'd go play in
Golden State maybe.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
That's even brought up a number of times before over
the last year, and he's not wanted to.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
But we'll take Jimmy, take Jimmy and uh.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
But what if things go well for the Warriors, they
may not want to change, that's true. I mean, I
don't know where that's going to go.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
I don't know. And this is all speculatory.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Of course, we're we're early. We we probably can discuss
this more.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
But what I will say is if you can't, just
it's time to move on into the next era of
Laker basketball. This was the first step this year at
the trade deadline to do that. We obviously everybody said it.
Lebron said it, the owners have said it. Rob Polinka
said it is gonna be Luca's team. So how do

(32:03):
we best maximize Luca and his abilities. That needs to
be on the forefront. Interesting, Well, and that's what I think.
That sounds like a hell of an off season. Well yeah,
I mean, but you get guys wanting to come play
with Luca.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
For sure, I means the Lakers, you're not gonna have
a hard time getting guys to want to come play.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, some guys didn't want to play with Lebron.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Like, remember, Kawhi had an opportunity to come play with Lebron,
Paul George had an opportunity to come play with Lebron.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
There was some some some some.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Kawhi different, Yeah, he is different man.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
But he chose the Clippers over the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I'm like, well, I mean they had a weird one
last night.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, look, I'm telling these games in the West, and
I said that, I said that that series is going
to be a bloodbed.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
You know you did.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
And I thought the Clippers would win last night and
be in a three to one situation, and they came
damn close.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
But they're not.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
And so it's going seven and it's gonna be bloody
and ugly, and and they're gonna be tired going into
the next series. And they make off the court the
first two games, either one of these teams.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
That may be because they'll get Okay, see yeah and
Okac is already they hang out. They are in Cabo.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Let's go to four Seasons Hawaii and just just relax
for a couple of days.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah, it's it's you know, they've they've done their work.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
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(33:52):
for those of you who do not know what happened
at the end of the Knicks Pistons game, we will
inform you on that next and then we will freak
out about it. At least I will, because I got
something to say. There is such an obvious change that
is needed with with the way these games are ending.
We'll get to that coming up next with e from Salam.
I'm Mark Willard and this is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
My kids always make fun of me Ephraim, the smart
whility from Salam, because I the phrase will come out
of my mouth a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
What are we doing? Like? What are we doing right now?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Whether it's watching a game or whether it's you know,
watching the way they clean their room, I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Like, whatever, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
And my goodness, I would like to use that phrase
right now in these Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
What are we doing? At the end of NBA games?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
An egregious either foul or missed foul is there for
the world to see. The technology is everywhere. Replay has
been welcomed into the league.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It is used constantly.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
But if somebody uses their challenge with three minutes left
to go and they happen to be wrong, and then
you get to the last two seconds of a game
and something horrific happens, then they've got no recourse.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
And then do you not understand, NBA that all you're
doing is grabbing the pistons' faces and rubbing their noses
in it As people literally drive home from the arena
get back to their homes to see that the NBA
is like, yeah, sorry, mess that one up. You totally

(35:58):
should have won, didn't, But that's okay. You're just down
three to one in your season's over now. But just
so you know as you go to bed tonight, it's
supposed to be two to two.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Sorry, didn't coach bigger Staff have a rent? He sure
did earlier this year. Yes, respect fact.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
It's this is what it is.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
This is what it is.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Uh. I don't have a dog in this fight. And
I was frustrated.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
The ref literally was standing right there, standing right there,
and it happened.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
My gosh, and it was hard away? Right? Was it?
Hard way? Hard away?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Was?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
He flew?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
He flew into the stands. He was so clearly body
shoved by Josh Hart. Literally in the final second of
the game, down by a point, Mad scrambled for the ball,
he grabs it, he shoots a three pump fake, He's
whacked into the stands by Josh Hart. No call, mix

(37:04):
up three to one. The home crowd is stunned. The
replay is completely conclusive. Jamie Baker Staff's going nuts, and
that's it. Everybody just goes home. But by the time
they get there, and the ending is like.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, we messed that up.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
We know, well, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (37:24):
What I would do is before the next game, I
would put however much to do is actually no time
left on the clock, so we'll probably point one second
left on the clock, and I would send him to
the free throw line to shoot three free throw.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Really yep, and.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Do what give them a three to nothing lead to
start the next game.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
No, I'm saying that would I would play. I would
replay the ending of the game.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, well, I mean, obviously for a million reasons, I
don't think we're ever going to get to something like that.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I guess we'll be good game.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Yeah, I mean, he makes two free throws. The games over.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Well, I to me, there's such an easier fix.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Why doesn't the NBA do exactly what the NFL does
and in the.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Final two minutes they got it.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
You don't need a challenge like come on on something
like that.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
It has to be you want to get it right right.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
They did it last night with the Nuggets and Clippers.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
They called it a dunk in real time and then
they stopped everything. And I know it takes a little
bit of the majesty away from the moment. But let's
see if Aaron Gordon's fingers were actually off the ball.
I still know smart people who think that that Maybe
they weren't. But the replay was conclusive enough from one
of the angles in New York that the ball was

(38:43):
out of his hands and threw the hoop. But it
was a lengthy replay and Nuggets win. I don't know, man,
that seems easy enough to me. Why are we not
doing this?

Speaker 5 (38:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
And that's something out Adam Silver he's gonna have to address.
And they got to fix that. That was terrible. That
was terrible. He has a point. He has a point.
Now his his rant doesn't seem like he was just
in his feelings. Now it's making sense.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
They are similar to what Fizzdale back in the days
of the Memphis Grizzlies said, Yeah, they're not gonna rook us,
and and that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
That's what's happening to the Detroit Pistons. Yep, they got rooked.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
And now Karl Anthony Towns was incredible at the end
of that game.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
So I give them credit for the lead that they earned.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
But the bottom line is, with no time left on
the clock and down by one. Tim Hardaway Junior should
be at the line shooting three and I got a
lot of money says he's going to hit at least
two of them, at least and and the Pistons should
be even to to heading back to New York.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
But they're not. They're Yeah, just said, So that's that.
That's pretty brutal, all right.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
It was also brutal when should do her Sanders got
pranked yesterday.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
More on that coming up.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
You're listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Radio Boston's shooting it well enough for the moment.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
About ten minutes left to go in this game, and
the Celtics have opened up a seven point lead, so
we will keep you up to date on that.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
And there is another one still ahead tonight.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
And actually we should get to this because it is
a little bit of a similar situation to what we've
talked about a lot tonight with the Lakers. If the
Bucks lose this basketball game tonight on their home floor
against the Indiana Pacers, go down three to one, go
ahead and reboot the annual Hey, is Yanni's gonna get

(40:49):
pissed and want to leave talk?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And and where does he go?

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I think tonight has a lot to say about Giannis's
future in Milwaukee, so we'll get to all of that
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(41:15):
That's shipstation dot com Code Sports. And speaking of the
draft and chaos, now, you and I had an opportunity
to talk out the Shador Sanders situation at length yesterday,
but today there are further developments.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
And for those of you not aware.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Shadure at one point, prior to being selected in the
fifth round by the Browns, received a prank phone call
from someone pretending to be an NFL general manager telling
me he was about to get picked. And you may think, oh, well, hey,
you know, haha, stuff like that happens. Shador had set
up a phone for the NFL only, so only the

(41:53):
NFL teams had this number, which meant kind of like
all those horror films from years ago, the call was
coming from inside the house somehow, someway, somebody had an
issue and we knew this as if yesterday.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Well quickly today we found out where this came from.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Got to the bottom of a real quick, right.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Real damn fast, didn't we.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Defensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons, Jeff Obrick, former NFL
player himself, apparently allowed the data to be available on
his iPad and maybe he had.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Family sharing turned on.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
His son got the number, and his son was the
one who pulled the prank. Before we get into what
has happened now since then, Between the two guys, what's
your thought on all this?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
What stands out to you?

Speaker 5 (42:47):
The lack of I don't know in what world that
seemed cool? H You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Like, I don't know if it's to be funny to
go viral, obviously because they released the footage of him
doing it. Like in today's generation, and I don't want
to sound like an old fogie or old her, But
in today's generation, the consequence doesn't outweigh the spotlight.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
And that's one of these cases. The consequence doesn't outweigh
the spotlight. I'm willing to do something that can get
me to go viral, to get the notoriety from it,
no matter what the consequences are. Now Subsequently, jail and

(43:54):
prison is full of people like that right now at
a high clip. Not saying this reached the level of that.
But we don't know what the consequence for this young
man is. That's but let's just say he's obviously a
college kid. He goes to Old Miss and someone on

(44:16):
the campus didn't like what he did and it was
a chadur fan and decided okay, and decided to retaliate
on that. Right, But he doesn't care because you know,

(44:36):
and that apology he's sent and all that. Nah, we're
not doing that right. Oh, he's a kid, he's young,
he's to you know, first of all, shame on your dad.
Shame on the dad for allowing that information to just
be out. Oh it's on my iPad. That might have
meant no, no, no, no, that's a day to breach. And
that is on Jeff faultbro. Yes, yes, that's a crime.

(45:01):
And so the consequence has to be severe or it'll
keep happening. And the NFL has to understand that the
consequence for the father and son has to be severe.
What that is, I'm not sure, but that's a moment.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
In time that.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
You know, could have been i mean devastating. The lack
of human decency for a laugh or for to go
viral is astounding, and social media is is you know,
they reward that. Now I got a million, I got

(45:46):
twenty million views. Yeah, but you're going to jail. But
I got twenty million, I got one hundred thousand new followers.
But you're going to jail, right, So I don't know
the consequence is gonna be. I thought it was in
poor taste. I thought that was a moment that he
probably thought was gonna be fun and cool and shout

(46:10):
out to Shador and his family. Yep, for all those
people who were hypercritical of this young man and his
ego and all of that, they got a chance to
see some grace.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
They got a chance to see some grace.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Brother, That's the number one thing that I thought of.
I go.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
We've sat here now, but I don't know how many
months listening to people talk who've never met the kid,
never talk about how Shador Sanders is immature, is all
about himself, he is a poor leader. We've heard all
of these things, and I don't know what happened in
these meetings with the New York Giants or whatever. Maybe

(46:52):
they were poor meetings okay, fine, poor meetings. All I
know is what I've watched this week. What I watched
was use somebody's name be.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
The full centerpiece of three full.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Days of highly watched American sports content. He was the
number one name to the point where analysts are screaming
at each other on the TV just based on what
they say about it. Yep, okay. And and what did
he do during that sum that time? He largely stayed silent.

(47:32):
And when he didn't stay silent, it was to say
it's fine, there's a plan. And then he was selected,
and what did he do? He danced, He danced, and
he jumped into a swimming pool. He didn't go, he
didn't go.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I don't want I don't want to go to Cleveland.
I don't want to be a fifth round pick. No,
he danced, he danced, and he jumped in the pool.
And then what did he do today? He took a
own call from someone he owes nothing to but Olbrick's
kid called Shador today to apologize. Schador took the call

(48:11):
and stayed calm and relaxed through the entire process. That's it,
that's all, That's all I know. That's all I've seen
from Shadoor Sanders this week. And and for those who
want to go back to you, remember the discussion we
started yesterday, back to the idea of being quarterback eel,

(48:33):
I thought he looked pretty quarterback Bachiel this week.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
That's what he looked like to me.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Somebody who stayed calm under pressure, Somebody who didn't let
the noise and the criticism get to him, somebody who
was the bigger person.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
That's what I saw.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I believe Stua Sanders this year will be the starting
quarterback for the Pittsburgh I mean, excuse me, the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Maybe for the Pittsburgh Steelers too.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Might not be wrong, but I think he's going to
win the starting job.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I mean he probably should.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Out of everybody on the roster, the young player, the
young quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
He's Dylan Gabrals not better than.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
No it was. And if you want to talk about
upside and all of.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
That, Kenny Pickett, I don't. I don't know what Shador
Sanders is, but but we know what he's not. I
know he's not them well, no, but I know what
Kenny Pickett is. I don't know what Dylan Gabriel is
either I know what my eyes tell me that he
doesn't look as talented as Shador Sanders to me. But

(49:39):
I got a whole hoole stand by, let me tell
you about everything everybody thinks they know about all these
college players. But but anyway, Yeah, I'm with you. He
probably should be the starting quarterback of the Browns.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
And that's all right. He's gonna make a little bit
of money. He's already got money. That's not the point.
He's trying to start his career. And guess what, he
doesn't have to wait five years to get re upped.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
He does it.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
He doesn't have to wait five years. Right, it's not
a first round draft pick.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
So he got to wait three He got way three years,
got way three?

Speaker 4 (50:15):
That way three years. Yeah, go play. Everything is in
front of him. Sure, he's gonna have to compete to
get the job, which I think I see. Yesterday I
gave you the story of my my draft uh my
draft experience in training camp yep, and getting the opportunity
all you want if you're an athlete, and this is

(50:38):
the God's honest truth, if you're an athlete, and I'm
talking about a real life high level athlete. All you
want is an opportunity to compete. You don't want a
job given to you, and you don't want a job
taken from you. All you want is an opportunity to

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compete for that job. Because anybody who's worth assault or
worth anything as an athlete feels like no matter who
you put me up against, I will beat. That's the
true essence of a professional athlete. I got my thirteen

(51:27):
year career started that way as a seventh round draft pick,
and I approach life everything I do with that same mentality.
Just give me an opportunity, I'll do the rest. That's
the God's un of truth. And I think this young
man is just his demeanor and how he's been handling

(51:55):
this situation, which could be traumatic. I think he's class personified.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Well, I'll tell you this.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
You know a lot of times we struggle to find
the silver linings in things, or we struggle to sort
of remind ourselves that when bad things happened, that maybe
it did happen for a reason. Maybe a year from now,
two years from now, we're going to look back at
this and go, Wow, that's actually I thank goodness that
thing happened. I was upset at the time, but thank goodness,
this one. I don't even think we need to struggle

(52:25):
if I'm already told you this yesterday, like the weekend
that he has just experienced, Shadoor Sanders has never been
a more sympathetic figure than he.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Is right now.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Right now, he has more people now suddenly rooting for
the supposed brash, arrogant, entitled kid.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
He has more. I would argue more people rooting for
him now.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
And Goofball just helped that situation.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Totally, totally guarantee he's had one of the top three
best selling jerseys in the NFL to there you go.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
We We went from you know, brash and prime time
and entire old to fifth round pick who got pranked
and at least a healthy portion of the NFL audience
feel sorry for.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Him as they should. I mean, and yes I do.
It was awful, I mean classless, totally classless.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
Totally, so that's probably gonna say, no matter how graceful
he should do in his family, where that kid should
not be let off the hook agreed, should not be
let off the hooks and that's real.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I couldn't agree more. By the way, before we had
too far off of football. I know you didn't mean
to say should do or would be the starting quarterback
for the Steelers, but.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Maybe he actually should be man or could be Who
the hell is?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
And what happens now if Aaron Rodgers says no, and
quite frankly, what happens if he says yes. We'll get
to all of that coming up next. That's eat from
Salama Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio. It's the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. A little bit over three minutes
to go in Orlando. Still a very tight game. Celtics

(54:12):
do have a two score lead. That doesn't mean much.
It's basketball. We'll keep you posted. Steve's coming here in
just a few minutes. Right now, Celtics are up four
ninety five ninety one, three twenty six left to go.
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Speaker 2 (54:50):
It will always pop up at the top of your screen.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
I do want to talk for a minute or two
about the idea of Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, but
my I just got blown.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I got distracted here.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
You started off the show by talking about how JJ
Reddick played Lebron James for the entire second half. I
didn't realize from all five players, yes that he played
in the second half, played the entire ridiculous second half.

(55:25):
There were no substitute. I didn't notice. I did not notice.
He becomes the first coach in the current era of
the NBA to play five players only for an entire
half of basketball.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
This has never happened before.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Lebron, Luca, Austin Reeves, Rory Hatchamora, Dorian Finney Smith.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
There was your lineup for the second half? No subs?
Who did you see? Uh? Do you see Magic Johnson's tweet?
You know?

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Look, man, look I don't Did you see it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Man?

Speaker 5 (56:10):
Basketball players don't basketball.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Well except for Magic. On Twitter is a different experience.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Sometimes He's like, the Lakers played the Wolves today and
unfortunately the Wolves scored more points. He says stuff like
that on Twitter. It's not my fault. I'm just telling
you what he says sometimes. But this one was clearly
a message that he was trying to pass along without

(56:36):
being too firm in his criticism of the coach. But
he said, I don't know if it's smart to play
Lebron and Luca the whole second half when you're coming
off of only one day of rest.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Yeah, and and and Lebron, as you pointed out, scored
no points.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
No, he's wiped no legs the first four minutes. He's
sitting on the bench. We got a nine point lead.
We're gonna have to figure it out. We'll have to
figure it out. But I need you to get some rest.
So you take these four which is, you know, twenty minutes,

(57:21):
twenty five minutes real time, get your legs under you,
and I need you to push, need you to push
your last eleven.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Well, the fact that they were up nine or ten
points to start the fourth is what actually makes this
idea even more crazy.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
When I saw it, I was like, this isn't right.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
If you're down two games to one, My God, and
you're down ten points to start the fourth.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
That's the difference.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Now we have a conversation because as a coach, you're saying, look,
this is our season.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Okay, my five.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Guys, go do your thing like we got nothing to
lose because we are right now set.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Up to lose, and and then the season's over. Essentially,
it does too.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
But you're but you're up, You're up by ten, you're
up by You've got this quite frankly, I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
At ten point lead's not huge, but you've got.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Yes, you've you Yes, you are the aggressor in this game,
and and and so to you know what I mean,
Like the baseball analogy is is you know the way
people manage a game seven, You put your starter out
there in the bullpen they just pitched two days ago.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
You go to him whatnot.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
But that's not if you're up five to one in
the seventh, Like you don't, dude, he he did the
inemergency break glass well up by double digits.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Yeah, that was a bad, bad coaching.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I don't understand that at all. I did not realize.
I knew the Lebron part. I did not realize he
did not substitute in the second.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Half I was watched, I'm like, that's bananas. That's been
put Vanderbilt in. Let him Chase Edwards around cup where
let's somebody got sit Lebron down. Got to sit him down.

(59:34):
Well for the first four minutes, I sit Lebron. When
Lebron comes in, I sit Lucal for two minutes, then
I let him finish out together. That would be my rotation.
I mean, that's what I would do as a coach.
Gave Vincent and I've only coached Gay Vincent's been why
why can't he play?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Gabe Vincent has been Actually, when you think about this season,
I'm not going to say the Lakers go as Gabe
Vincent does, but there's there are certain role players that
when they play well, it really it takes a team
to a different level. And Gabe is one of those.
Like he is their sharp shooter off of the bench,

(01:00:15):
and if he's hitting a few threes a game, with
everything else that the Lakers throw at you, they become.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Very hard to beat. He scored zero and he did
not play in the second half.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
That coach mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
That's Shockington coats, shocking coach makes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
And you've got four players who played over forty minutes
in this game, And so where does that leave you
emotionally and physically. You do get two nights off now,
but you fly back to La tonight, I would assume,
probably take a day off tomorrow, do a shoot around
on Tuesday. Game five is on Wednesday. But where does

(01:00:59):
the leave their heads?

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Well, I mean their heads can only be one place.
It can only be one place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Well, but I like, I got I know, and that's
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I mean, Minnesota is the very very good, and I
know that I know what you mean.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
That's where your head is out going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
But if you watched any of this game and if
you look at the way the numbers stack up, this one,
to me is the big red flag because if you
do that out coached, Yeah, if you do that to
your players.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Coach, where you're going to lose the trust.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
You're leaving certain guys out of the second half, entirely
rotation guys, you're wearing your other five out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
And then you get the output.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Like I said, they shot over forty percent from three
and got huge numbers from four of their players and
still lost. That is incredibly discouraging. Yes, ooh, this is

(01:02:05):
a surprising.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Outcome.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Sorry, losing the trust?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Yeah, you know who will never ever ever lose our trust?

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I do, Yeah, I do. It's Steve de Seger.

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
Hey, Steve, Yeah, Hello, gentlemen, the game you're talking about.
Minnesota now up three games to one in the NBA Playoffs,
beating the Lakers one sixteen, one thirteen, forty three points
for Anthony Edwards. Minnesota trailed by seven with five minutes left.
Lebron James plus minus stat just for the fourth quarter
today a minus thirteen against the Timberwolves, one of the

(01:02:41):
worst plus minus fourth quarters of his long playoff career.
Lebron did have another double double. How many double doubles
in his postseason career one hundred and forty four now god,
that passes Wilt Chamberlain for third most in league history.
Tim Duncan's number one, Magic Johnson number two to Lebron
James number three in career double doubles in the postseason.

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He had twenty seven points, twelve rebounds, eight assists as well.
By the way, but he was scoreless in the fourth quarter,
and in fact, the Wolves have outscored the Lakers in
fourth quarters every game this series, and by a total
of one zh five sixty nine in the fourth so
far in this series. Luka Donzich clearly feeling better as

(01:03:25):
he played through illness the previous game, but he did
go one of six shooting in the fourth quarter. And
you're right about the minutes and how they were handed out.
Five Lakers that suited up never saw the court, and
three or four other Lakers that did get on the
court were barely on the court. And that includes starting
center Jackson Hayes who got four minutes today, Dorian Finney

(01:03:47):
Smith forty one minutes off the bench, starter Ruy Hachimura
forty one minutes, and yeah, forty six minutes out of
forty eight for both Lebron and Luka Dancics. Lakers down
three games to one. Nicks won at Detroit by a point.
Nicks lead three games to one after beating the Pistons
ninety four to ninety three. Kay Cunningham and Detroit a

(01:04:08):
triple double and seven turnovers, Jalen Brunson and Victory thirty
two points, eleven assists, and we have just over a
minute to go in the Celtics playoff game at Orlando.
Boston up one oh one, ninety four, despite twenty nine
points from Polo Bencaro. He's now eleven of thirty shooting
from the floor. Jason Tatum of the Celtics thirty three points,

(01:04:29):
twenty one for Jalen Brown. Celtics trying to go up
three games to one in this first rounder. As soon
as this ends, Indiana at Milwaukee begins with the Pacers
trying to go up three games to one. In the
NHL Playoffs, the Capitals have just won, including late empty netters.
Five two is the final at Montreal. Carolina was a
five to two winner. At New Jersey, Saint Louis beat

(01:04:51):
Winnipeg five to one, and the late game LA at
Edmonton is about to start. Sunday night baseball there in
the top of the tenth at Wrigley Field, Phillies and
Cubs tied. Earlier, the Yankee swept a doubleheader against Toronto
eleven to two. In the opener, Max Freed now five
and oh got that win, and in the nightcap five
to one, Yankees Aaron Judge hit his eighth home run.

(01:05:12):
Detroit is eighteen to ten. After shutting out Baltimore seven
to nothing, Trek scouble to win with eleven strikeouts.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
In six innings.

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
Washington won on an error in the bottom of the ninth,
eight to seven over the Mets. The Giants won again
three to two with a run in the bottom of
the ninth against Texas. Tampa Bay won at San Diego
four to two Dodgers nine to two over the Pirates,
but LA starter Tyler Glasnew left early with his shoulder problem.
Austin Sindrick won the NASCAR race at Talladega. Ryan Priest

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was a close second. How close by less than half
a length. He lost by point zero two two seconds,
not twenty two seconds, zero point zero two two seconds
and has still never won a NASCAR race. The top
two cars than this one exchange the lead five times

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in the last six laps. The next four Sunday races
will be on FS one, including next weekend from Texas,
and then that'll end the Fox coverage for the season.
But Fox has all the IndyCar races this year. That
will include the Indy five hundred in about a month.
IndyCar returns to Fox TV next Sunday from Birmingham. NBA
update the Celtics lead is one oh three ninety six

(01:06:24):
now at Orlando, with about thirty seconds laugh back to you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Indeed, it is also known as Boston's gonna win this game,
and uh, they're going to be up three games to one,
and that's you know that this is a game that
if the Celtics are really serious about this whole thing,
they're going to win this game. And they are and
Jason Tatum has gone off. I think he's got thirty five.

(01:06:49):
He and Kntavious Caldwell Pope probably only have about one
more game together before this really gets out of control.
So that's probably a good thing that this looks like
it might have a chance to end in five. I
love watching the first round of the playoffs to see
the specific kind of matchups and fights that start to

(01:07:10):
build because you're playing the same team three four, five, six,
seven times in a row, and right at the front
of the line is Tatum and your old boy KCP.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Yeah, yeah they're going there, Yeah they are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Glad you're with us.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
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iHeartRadio app. You set a short time ago that the
Pittsburgh Steelers have really screwed this up, and boy, I
couldn't agree more. And I don't even understand the departure

(01:08:06):
from sort of who they are as a franchise. You know,
they're all about grit and blue collar and the run game.
And now now this football team has acquired DK Metcalf,
George Pickens has scrubbed his social media, so I don't

(01:08:28):
know what the hell's going on there. They don't have
a quarterback. They're openly talking about what we should we
should hear from Aaron Rodgers soon, which is such a
weak look to have the owner out there like, well,
we'll find out if he picks us.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Sometimes, what are you contestant on the Bachelor?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Like this whole thing is such a weird look from
that franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
And let's be real, whether they get airon or not, what's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
That really gonna add up to next year against Lamar
Jackson and Joe Burrow.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
They've mishandled this from the beginning by letting both quarterbacks
that they had who started in one game for him
last year, letting both of them walk and go. That
was the first misstep. Number two not addressing it early
enough in the draft. Terrible decision. Now number three, just
waiting on someone who doesn't seem like he has the

(01:09:33):
desire to play at a high level anymore, and that's
Aaron Rodgers. So here we are the Stillers in a
situation where they're going to rely on a guy in
Mason Rudolph who didn't work the first time. It's not
gonna work this time. And they'll be five hundred, they

(01:09:55):
won't make the playoffs, and you know, but they'll be
just good enough not to have a lottery pick. Welcome
to the perpetual roller coaster of mediocrity for the Pittsburgh Dealers.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, but boy, I think that that's kind of a
new story for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I know they've been
this like magical run to the playoffs, but not actually
a contender thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Really ever since Roethlisberger left.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
No, they're gonna play hard, they're gonna show every week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
But I mean they're well coached, and it's a good
franchise and and and all of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I get it, But like, hmm, what's the end game here?

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
I don't, I don't, I don't you know what I mean, Like, Okay,
what if you do get Aaron Rodgers. First of all,
you and I both think that that's not gonna be
good enough to do anything. We're allowed to be wrong
even if what if we're wrong? Okay, great? Then what then?
What you didn't address the QB position in the offseason
or in the draft at all. I know you're ground

(01:11:00):
Ohio States quarterback late whatever, It's not like you're I mean,
that's a flyer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
What a weird thing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
What a weird thing for like to kind of approach
the quarterback position with an annual band aid, which is
what it feels like they've been doing for a while.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
The most important position on any NFL team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
What a bizarro deal.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
And I know maybe you were wooed for a second,
you thought you had a future guy with Picket, but
that's been a while and they just there seems to
be no like realization or admission that they.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Need a quarterback, like you have to go. You are
one of those.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Teams, and now to address it in the draft was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Right, Like you're the Titans, You're the Saints, you're the Giants,
You're one of those teams.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
They don't seem to want to admit it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
No, Yeah, that that was that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Well, Ravens and Bengals are looking good for the playoffs
this year. Oh yeah, real good, Yeah, real good. Draft
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Then it dies out a little bit. These two days
are home to the stupidest thing that sports media offers
all year long, and we'll get into that a little

(01:12:54):
bit coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. All Right,
we're in these Fox Sports radio studios, JJ Reddick after
the refs publicly has Janis got a limited number of
games left in Milwaukee, Warriors win without Jimmy Butler, all

(01:13:20):
of that coming up in our seven o'clock Pacific or
ten o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
In the East hour.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
I just I love getting this off my chest every
year the day after the NFL Draft, Beep beep, here
comes the stupid train.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
And I'm not calling you stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
If you read this stuff, or if you consume this
stuff on any level, if you like it, good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I don't. I'm not telling you not to read it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
I'm just telling you that I think the whole process
is some of the most absurd stuff that comes out
in sports.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Meet.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Yeah, and it's this ready for it draft grades mm hmm.
The single stupidest thing that I see sports media do
on a yearly basis. And I guess maybe it's crazy
like a Fox, it's not stupid because people do they.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
They want it, They read it. You want to know
what your team got, But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Do you get graded the day you show up at
school like the first day?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Yeah, that kid looks kind of funny. I'm giving him
a D plus. We haven't done any assignments yet. Teach
doesn't matter, just gonna profile you and move on. I
don't this is just me. I don't even understand it.
I don't understand where are you coming from with this?
What I mean draft grade?

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
I think it's along the lines of, well, I know,
it's along the lines of do you address the needs
that your team had? You think, yeah, because like if
you look at the Steelers, they didn't address in the
one glaring need and that's a quarterback, so obviously they're great,

(01:15:17):
it's going to be lower.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Hmmm. I think maybe that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
But I also, you know, there's there's all these people
who think because that they watched a lot of college
football and then they have like a computer and and
so they've got tape and and they're like, oh, no, no, no,
I watched that wide receiver from Idaho.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Uh, he doesn't profile as a three down receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
So well, if he's a dynamic slot receiver, you guys
need a slot receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
That increases your great I guess I do.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
But if you need an edge rusher and you got
a slot receiver, then that also that decreases your grade.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
But what if you need an Edgresher and you got
one in the second round that somebody named mel Or
Todd thought was going to go in the third.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
I do minus it was a reach. What the hell
are you talking about? What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
How do we know?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
And you know this, You and I have talked about
it at length. Like the phrase that I threw out
there last year, draftism, it follows you. So that's what
I hate most about draft grades is someone will stick
out these draft grades.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
And then when they're proven wrong, then they're going to
go next level.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
And go, Well, that guy that's doing really well, he's
actually not that good product of his surroundings system quarterback
do what.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I don't know, dude, It's just me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
I'm very turned off by the whole idea of telling
us who someone is. But hell, before they've before they've
even gone to camp, they haven't even gone to the
city and gotten a helmet yet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
And you, you, of.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
All people, you're a wonderful example of what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Seventh round pick.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Yeah, like, what what what was somebody's great on you?

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Well, our first round draft pick didn't even start the
beginning of the season when I, uh, the year, I
got to think I was the only.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Rookie starter.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, and I
know of and this is going in the way back machine.
And I won't say the name because I'm not mean
like that. But like years ago, the forty nine ers
had a first round draft pick, like an early one too,
I like a top ten pick. This is a long
time ago. And uh, they got in the building and

(01:17:53):
like a few days into training camp and they were
like whoops, whoops. I mean they knew right away, but
it was a huge need and he was a big prospect,
so that draft grade was like, oh, that's a good pick.

(01:18:16):
It's a terrible pick. It was a massive bust as
it turns out. So anyway, I just think if i'm
if I'm any of you listening, and your team got
a bad grade, you can throw that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
In the trash. Yeah, that's stupid. We can grade them
after the season.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
I mean sometimes it takes even longer than that, does
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
It does, Like a lot of guys don't even most
of them, the later ones, they don't even get an
opportunity right away.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Might take me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
I would actually, I've like long sort of dreamed about that, Like,
how come someone's never done that content. Let's do draft
grades from twenty twenty two. Let's take a look at that,
and and how'd everybody do?

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
That? Would be good to me. Okay, let's do that.
Let's start that. I don't know you have, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
I don't think I have time to do it beforeward
done tonight, Do it right now. I'm gonna go look
at the twenty twenty two draft.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
Do it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Go take a gander and see who fo do it all?
See uh see who nailed it and uh and who didn't.
But I'd read that, I would read that all right.
The Indiana Pacers and Bucks are off to their start.
Pacers up by three, but it is very very very early,
so much more coming up. As we watched that one together,

(01:19:49):
And back to the NBA, JJ Reddick rips the refs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
What about Giannis's future? That's next?

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
You're listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Yeah, into the night we go here in the Fox
Sports radio studios, eat from salam Mark Willard, and down
the stretch we come with the fourth NBA playoff game
of the night and there is breaking news out of that.
We'll have that for you in just a second. JJ
Reddick from the podium was interesting to say the least.
We'll have that for you in just a moment. I

(01:20:22):
do just want to put a bow. I don't want
to belabor this. I want to put a bow on
the point that I was making a few minutes ago,
and this is just the only example I could really
come up with. And our producer Ian he sent like
a redraft of the twenty twenty two draft, like for fun,
if you were to do the draft again, and if
you were to do the draft again, it has Brock

(01:20:44):
Purdy going fourth overall to the New York Jets. But
if you go to NFL dot com and look at
the draft grades that were given to teams at the
time at the time, well, the forty nine ers, they
got to be minus for their draft and they got
to B plus for their Day three picks at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Less than two years later, the two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
And six, two hundred and sixty second pick in the
draft would lead them to the Super.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Bowl against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Actually, if you look at their draft now, it was
even worse than it be minus except for today plus
because with the last pick in the draft, they got
a quarterback for three and a half million dollars for
the next four years.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
So yeah, I'd say that's winning the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
You won the draft with one pick.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Who cares what the rest of your guys did, And
by the way, the rest of their guys did very,
very little.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
But anyway, Dame Lillard just got helped off the.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Court and I mean, like, could not walk on the
left leg, non contact kind of a look. Helped off
of the court. And he just came back a couple
of games ago from the blood clout situation. And so
the Bucks find themselves down by you know, it's first quarter,

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so whatever, down by a few points to start this game,
but also down Dame Lillard.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
As he was helped immediately to the locker room.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
Man, Yeah, it's been a tough Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Sure has.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Well and and sort of I think emblematic of the
larger thing that is going on with the Milwaukee Bucks.
When do you think Jiannis is going to run out
of patients?

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
I think this is the end of his patients this year.
See you in LA next year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Of course, it's law. How hell the Laker's gonna fit
that salary.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Lebron's got to go to Milwaukee and then signed hit.
Lebron and UH and Bronnie have to go to Milwaukee.

Speaker 9 (01:22:51):
Brother, I'll give you, I give you however much you want,
if you could convince Lebron to go to Wisconsin, go
to Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Man, he not going He's not going to Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
What about Miami.

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
He's not going back to Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
I thought, sorry, yeh, that'd be nice, that'd be I
don't know if I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
If guys want to go down there and deal with that,
deal with coach Riley.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I mean coach coach Riley. Right, the heat, the heat.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Culture, the heat culture. It's burning a lot of people
the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Yeah, it's still Miami.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
It is still Miami. But I mean that's difficult.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
He definitely needs to be somewhere around shooters and a
and a point guard, a dynamic ball handler.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
Take some of that off his plate.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Even though he's best in the half court when he
has or not even in the half court, but in
the open court with the ball in his hands.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
But he needs some spot up shooters for the drive
and the kick hm, I mean that I have what's
that Dallas?

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Well, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
I mean, everybody's got to figure out how to fit this, right,
you know what I mean, you got to figure out
how to fit this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
And what I know is that there are very very
few teams out there that have cap space.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
And and then this isn't a free agent situation anyway,
So you've got to have the assets to make this happen.
And then and then you've got to be able to
fit him into whatever you're already doing. And the Dallas Mavericks,
I don't really know. I'm no expert on the situation.
But Anthony Davis is there now, Kyrie Irving is there now,

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Klay Thomps and is there now. These guys are all
making a ton of money and I don't really find
any of them to be very desirable to Milwaukee in
a trade.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Right, Yeah, So I get what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
Johannis looks just so defeated coming right Cord. He really does,
like he's just like, oh god.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Well, they're just they're playoffs, yeah, and they're not very good.
They're not good, They're just not very good. I know
that he's still Yannis and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
And I get that the Lillard thing has been wobbly,
but it's is not a very good basketball team this year.
They're They're not bad, but they're just eh, they're just mediocre.
It's mediocre basketball team.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
It's tough because you've seen a generational talent just get
caught up in the wash and you want to see them.
You know, they had to win. They had a small
window and they just couldn't keep that thing going. They

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held onto Middleton, in my opinion, too long. Chris Middleton.
He never regained form from when they won the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Championship, right, he rarely played.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Just then you get rid of Drew Holliday, It's like, yeah,
they didn't do things.

Speaker 5 (01:26:27):
To get better.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Yannis just turned thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
Yeah, so essentially he's got seven great years left, plenty
of time, plenty of time.

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
He got to get out of there, though.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
But I do think that that number sometimes can make
you go, oh, like.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
How many years does he have left on his on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
His contract contract?

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
I can get you that, uh, Jannis, right now, that
contract goes another Let's see, he's already locked for next year,
he's locked for the year after that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
And then a player option for twenty seven twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:27:06):
Eight, So it's two years left on the deal to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Two plus one if he wants it, sixty two point
seven player option at his age thirty three season. But yeah,
two more locked, two more locked at about one hundred
and twelve million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Now you wonder you wonder if turning thirty? Yeah, thirty
thirty is not old.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
But no, he's too. He's built different. Maybe I have
thirty Lebron No, sure, like they were, they were like,
oh I don't know, no, no, no, plenty plenty, plenty, plenty
of time. But I wonder if it makes him go
plenty of time, but not plenty of time. If we're
gonna waste He's not.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
He's not wasting any more years. And like for him,
his clock is going.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
Yeah, his clock.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
I get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
That's what I mean. When you turn thirty. I'm asking him,
not the Bucks, not the rest of the league. I
mean there there are going to be some major We
know the Sons are breaking up. We know that Kevin
Durant's playing for a new team next year.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
Yes, Bradley Bill not if he doesn't want to. He doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
He's already stated that I like my life.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
So Durant's gonna be on a different team. There's something
happening with Giannis. Lebron's gonna turn forty one.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
He's gonna be on a new team.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Do you really think that, like, for real, for real.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
He's gonna play his last What he's a player option
next year or the year after?

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Well, I mean he's Lebron. He's got a player option
every year. Yeah, that's true, but not something that the
Lakers can decline. No, he's under contract next year.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Yeah, so you know, of course they'll be there. But yet,
I'm not a Lebron hater. I'm not. I just think
in order to move on with your franchise, if you've
replaced your franchise player with someone who hasn't even stepped

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in their prime yet, then you have to do everything
you can to help facilitate that and help make that transition.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
As soon as you can.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
I think that's fair. I just don't know if now
is as soon as you can. They might not be
able to yet. Lebron still makes the decisions for.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
Lebron, Yes he does, and he's earned.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
That, unless, of course, we're talking about second half minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
So check this out.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
This is from JJ Reddick, Laker's head coach, talking about
playing Lebron, Luca and three others the entire second half
of today's basketball game.

Speaker 10 (01:30:03):
No, it wasn't planning, but we just made the decision
at halftime.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
What at halftime? You made your decision? Nobody else is playing?
Who made that decision?

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
He said?

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
We? Who is we? Him and the assistant coaches.

Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
Man's fire everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
No, that's not a look and Lakers down three at half? Right?
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
I think the Lakers were down by three?

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Yeah, okay, down by three, Like I can almost understand
your thought process at half, But I would have I
would have said it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
I would have said it this way.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Let's be open to that if that's what we need
to do, because.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
We absolutely have to win this game, and we're trailing
by three. But then you go into the fourth quarter
up by ten and you stick with it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
I'm sorry, man.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
Can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
You tell me about losing because we're about to play
something else for you from JJ Reddick.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
And then then I'd like to potentially use a.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Word to describe JJ Reddick in the postseason so far,
and you tell me if it's a fair word or not. Okay,
But first, here's another part of JJ's press conference where
he is upset at the officiating.

Speaker 10 (01:31:25):
Let's just start with Luca got tripped. I mean, that
was a blatant trip. He doesn't just fall on his own.
We watched it. You know, he gets tripped, So we
should have been at the free throw line. You know,
that's not an excuse for why we lost, but we
felt and you know, we had a chance to go up.
You work on the endgame stuff, you know, you draw
it up and you tell guys very specific things. We

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didn't execute it, and very obvious we didn't execute it.
So I don't know what that's my only advantage point.
You know, we just didn't execute it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Mmm.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Okay, here here's the word. Like, dude, he's a rookie coach.
They won fifty games. I think, by and large, this
has been a really really good year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
For JJ Reddick.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
Great YEP. But he got exposed and yes, in a
tough West to be a three seed.

Speaker 8 (01:32:16):
Really good, really really great regular season yep.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
Completely exposed in the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Play he has been totally exposed.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
And completely from from the beginning to now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
I mean, when we go to you decided at halftime
in inc.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
How do you make that decision it I don't have time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
How do you say after game one we were surprised
by their physicality. How do you say after game four, well,
Luca was fouled. I'm sorry. Have you watched these playoffs?
Everybody's fouled on every play, every every single like we're
I'm thrilled after a possession if dudes aren't punching each other, and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
You're gonna have the nerve quite.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
Frankly throwa just throw back play.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Right, but you're gonna have the nerve to then go
to the podium and point out one play.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
No, I like him, let him play man and he
was fouled.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
It's like, wait a minute, I don't know, dude. Somebody
need to show him the Pistons Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Game if you want to. He was fouled.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
I mean the refs they decided that game today by
swallowing their whistle, they changed the outcome of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
You can't you can't say that in this one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
No, it's poor execution down the stretch. Oh, this has
been uncomfortable from the top down. These four games for
JJ Reddick have been he's out, he's been out coached,
he's been out coached. He has been he's been out coach.
My veteran coach has been there before he's been out coached.

Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Yeah, yeah, full agreement here on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
UH.

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see today show posted right after we get off the
air plank and Spaniard around the corner. But we got
at least a good half hour of chatter left. What
do you think of the Golden State Warriors winning without
Jimmy Butler last night?

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
I thought it was huge. I thought that was.

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
A veteran team taking advantage of the inexperience of a younger,
more athletic team. Like I said, it's difficult for Houston
to score in the half court.

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
It just is.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
And so when it comes down to it, if you're
within striking distance, you can't count out Steph Curry. You
can't count out the defensive efficiency of Draymond Green, which
completely changed that game, especially coming down the stretch. They're
well coached and they're champions players, so it it. I mean,

(01:36:04):
I thought that was a huge win for them to
take control of the series.

Speaker 5 (01:36:10):
And they're in the driver's seat now.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
I want to continue with this, however, this is kind
of what I feared watching it live.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
But I'm no doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
And I don't want to throw this out there without
knowing anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
But Chris B.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Haynes, NBA reporter is reporting that Damian Lillard is feared
to have suffered a torn achilles. Oh my gosh, and
that is exactly what it looked like. Oh no, you
know that, you know that famous Kobe walk off of
the of the floor when you cannot you cannot bend,

(01:36:53):
total non contact injury. And the look on his face
might be the most daunting part of all of it,
as he just sat on the ground with kind of
a sheepish grin on his face.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
It was as if he knew And I'm sure you
do like everybody Wan.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Who has ever done that that I know, they tell
you right away, like you you feel the snap, you
hear it, and and then the use of of that
leg and bending is gone. And so this is this
is much bigger than this series and this year and

(01:37:30):
the Yannis impact and all of that. But that is
that is the word that that looks like Dame Lillard
is feared to have suffered a torn of kill.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
What a gut.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Punch anyway, Yeah, I co signed with what you're saying
is kind of what I said about the Rockets all along,
Like I did a little exercise this week with with
my crew here, which is, why don't we take a
look at the Western Conference seeds since.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
The trade deadline?

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Forget the year, just since the trade deadline, because what
the Lakers did with Anthony Davis and what the Warriors
did without Jimmy Butler kind of irrelevant right now, right
because that's not who these teams are anymore. And what
the Clippers did without Kawhi Leonards kind of irrelevant right now.
So tell me what these teams have done since they

(01:38:31):
became who they are. Well, in that particular series, the
Rockets would have stacked up as the five.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Seed and the Warriors are the two seed.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
They're the two seed in the West since the trade deadline,
only behind Oklahoma City. And so when I looked at
that series, I kind of broke it down that way,
which is to say, there's nothing. I love what the
Rockets are building, but they're not ready. All of their
key players are twenty two years old. When have you

(01:39:04):
ever seen a team made up of twenty two year
olds advance in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
That's unheard of.

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
Yeah, it doesn't happen, right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
So I kind of thought their only hope was some
sort of an injury to one of the big two,
and they got it, and they didn't take advantage of
even that. And I'm hearing that Butler is likely to
be back tomorrow. I think, in fact, I think it
was pretty close last night.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
I think he was pretty close.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
To playing with tough injury.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Though. It's a tough injury that hurts. It looked like
it hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
That's a tough injury.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
You ever had it?

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Yes, And that's not what you want, no, I mean, like,
what was did you miss games?

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Can't walk, can't can't sleep, can't run? I never missed
games man, Yeah, well surgery, I missed a game. That's
why I can't now right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
Should have missed a couple at least.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Well, that's kind of what I'm getting at though, Like
when you were talking earlier about JJ reddick, Okay, it's
game four, we feel like we've got to have it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
We're down three and a half. I'm gonna decide right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Now, I'm playing everybody with no substitutions the rest of
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
That's a blink.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
That's a crazy that's a complete blink.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
Meantime, here's Golden State tied one one heading for a
home game. They know, damn well, they're nowhere near It's obvious.
It's plane is in plain sight. They're not nearly as
good of a team without Jimmy Butler. They lose such
a huge aspect of what they've become. But they kind

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of did something that I like, I can't believe, which
is they took a huge deep breath and went, now,
let's sit him, let's sit him, let's be mature, and
let's be confident that we can do this.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
But they did that during a regular season with Steph.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
They did, but this is different because it's the playoffs.
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
I mean, you're coming off of you're coming off of
a game where Jimmy got knocked out and you got
you got the beat down.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
But they know they can beat this team. That's the
thing they then.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
That's what I'm saying, you know, And they walked out
there and fell down by thirteen or fourteen points right
away last night. I gotta tell you, in that moment,
I didn't think they were gonna win. I sure didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
Steph wasn't on, he wasn't even hitting yet.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
Once that parcolator started eating.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Up boy, you know who's about to eat up.

Speaker 5 (01:42:03):
The one and only the park of the human Percolator himself.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Warm it up, Steve, He's about to good evening once again, gentlemen,
Let's update the NBA playoff game at Milwaukee.

Speaker 7 (01:42:15):
The Pacers trying to go up three games to one
in their first round series, and they're leading the Bucks
fifty five forty three with about four minutes left in
the second quarter. And yes, Damian Lillard limped off in
the first period for Milwaukee with an apparent achilles injury,
and Boston is up three games to one. Also in
the East, Knicks are up three games to one. They
each won Sunday games. Boston won its contest tonight at

(01:42:38):
Orlando one oh seven ninety eight. Jason Tatum thirty seven
points and fourteen rebounds.

Speaker 5 (01:42:44):
That game was.

Speaker 7 (01:42:45):
Tied with four minutes left. New York won by a
point at Detroit, ninety four to ninety three, and the
refs admitted afterwards a foul should have been called on
New York at the end on Detroit's three point attempt. Nonetheless,
it's three games to one. Nicks and Brunson had thirty
two points eleven asses Karl Anthony Town's twenty seven points.

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New York trailed by eleven with about eight minutes to go.
Minnesota trailed the Lakers by seven with five minutes left.
Today we have documented how Doncic and James and the
Lakers did not play well in the fourth quarter and
got all the minutes. Nonetheless, Minnesota beat the Lakers one
sixteen to one thirteen in this comeback. Timberwolves up three

(01:43:26):
games to one. Monday Night, Golden State, trying to go
up three games to one, will host Houston. Cleveland's already
up three games to none. It'll play tomorrow at Miami.
NHL playoff wins for Saint Louis, Carolina and Washington in
the late game, the LA Kings lead won nothing at
Edmonton at the end of one. Austin Sindrick took the
NASCAR race at Talladega. Ryan Priest was a close second.

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The Carolina Panthers signed veteran wide receiver Hunter Renfros from Clemson.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
He sat out last year.

Speaker 7 (01:43:55):
Linebacker Dre Greenlaw, now with Denver, suffered a straining quad
but should be ready for tree raining camp. In the
Sunday night ballgame, Philadelphia in ten innings beat the Cubs
three to one. Great starting outing from Aaron Nola, usually
in ace on that staff, but was zero to five
this year. No decision tonight, but seven very strong innings.
The Yankee swept a doubleheader against Toronto eleven to two

(01:44:17):
and five to one. Aaron Judge hit his eighth home
run in that nightcap. He's batting four oh six. Detroit
shut out Baltimore seven to nothing, a win for Terrek Schooble,
last year Say Young Award winner. He had eleven strikeouts
in six innings. Tigers have won four straight. Their record
is up to eighteen and ten. The Mets fell to

(01:44:37):
nineteen and nine after losing with two runs given up
in the bottom of the ninth at Washington eight seven Nationals.
The final winning run came in on an error. The
Nats had trailed the Mets seven to one in the seventh.
Tampa Bay won its fifth straight game four to two
at the slumping Padres Dodgers nine to two over Pittsburgh.
The Giants are nineteen and ten after getting an uner

(01:45:00):
and run bottom of the ninth to edge Texas three
to two, and in Sacramento, the A's don't call them
the Oakland A's one in ten innings three to two
over the White Sox on a two run homer. The
White Sox record now seven and twenty one. And as
far as the golf ladies and gentlemen, today, we had
Andrew Novak's name come up again. We had mentioned it

(01:45:21):
last week. Let's be honest, an unknown golfer, but he
got into a playoff loss said playoff a week ago
to Justin Thomas. Still hadn't won on the PGA Tour.
He has won now because he teamed with Ben Griffin
at TPC Louisiana to win the Zurich Classic by one
stroke in alternate shot play. Today, you see this is

(01:45:42):
a team competition. These two are first time tour winners.
It was Rory McElroy, the Masters champion, teaming with Shane
Lowry who were the defending champs here and they were
still in contention over halfway through the final round, but
eventually failed to twelfth place. This is the PGA's Tour.
Two were only team event. Meanwhile, Live Golf has team

(01:46:03):
events locked into their tournaments every weekend. In an odd way,
the individual winner of the Live Golf event in Mexico,
was Joaquen Neeman, who was down two shots to start
the day behind Bryson Deshambo and wound up winning and
getting another victory on John Ram's team. If you add
up the scores of his teammates, they took the team

(01:46:24):
title for the day and they split a bunch of
money as well. But the individual winner for live golf
today Joaquin Neeman. They've only had six events on their
tour this year. Six It's it's gonna be May next weekend.
They've had six golf tournaments. He's won three of the
six and as we mentioned, anytime you win a live

(01:46:45):
golf event, it's worth four million dollars plus any team
competition money over these events as well. Congratulations. Meanwhile, on
the LPGA Tour, we had a major contested this weekend.
Not in Southern California in the desert anymore. It's at
the Woodlands, Texas. The winner of the Chevron Championship is

(01:47:06):
Mao Saigo of Japan. She shot a final round seventy four,
not quite as good as the other rounds. It left
her in a five way tie at the end of regulation.
She won a five way playoff on the first hole. Nonetheless,
and as a first time winner on the LPGA Tour
at the age of twenty three, and she was their
tour Rookie of the Year last season. But now she's

(01:47:28):
won an event and it's a major. She takes home
one point two million dollars. Those two PGA golfers we'd
never heard of. They each get one point three million
dollars for winning the Zurich Classic. And then there's the
Live golf winner four million dollars. John Rahm for finishing

(01:47:48):
fourth place four strokes back, gets a million dollars plus
the team money for the weekend in Mexico City. Final
note is that Phil Mickelson finished fifteen strokes behind, not
even in the top twenty in Mexico City, and gets
over two hundred thousand dollars for three days of golf.

(01:48:10):
I say again out loud, two hundred and six thousand dollars.
You had to finish in the top ten on the
PGA to get over two hundred thousand. You didn't even
need top twenty to get over two hundred thousand dollars
this weekend and Live Golf back.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
To you, Steve, I know that you understand everything in sports,
not quite and I genuinely. Now, do you even understand
how this the team format thing works.

Speaker 7 (01:48:38):
In live since they don't Yeah, they don't have separate
holes to play or any right. My guess is at
the beginning of the year, it's you and three teammates
and you just add up your scores for the weekend.
So John Rahm had a pretty good top five weekend,
so that helped his team to the to the best
total score.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
Okay, but you said my guess, yes, don't even you're
not sure about that, but you.

Speaker 7 (01:49:02):
Think I've never seen separate holes play. Therefore just the
regular eighteen on the course, and I think that's how
they would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
I just think it's it's like a race between Live
and the NBA Cup to see the problem is which
one people will actually figure out first.

Speaker 7 (01:49:19):
What I do appreciate is the live golf results actually
count as real stats. They will forever be it. We
won't get like in the NBA Cup final. Oh, you'll
never find those stats or the play in tournament play
can't actually count.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
It didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
We were watching it.

Speaker 7 (01:49:35):
People were trying, right, and yet the stats for the
All Star Game somehow count.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
It's like it's like Reggie Bush's last season at USC.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
That's right, never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
I was on the sideline, but apparently.

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
No, that was that was the dream were completely mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Wow, all right, thanks Dave Grags. Enough.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Yeah, I don't even get it. Do you get it?
I don't even know stand whatever?

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
Right? I like that says the team point. I'm like, okay, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Yeah, I don't know, Like who who's on his team?
How does that work? Do they have a barbecue afterward?

Speaker 4 (01:50:12):
Draw names out of a head before every tournament? Or
random pick? Are you pick your own team? How many
people on a team?

Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Do you understand the NBA Cup? Do you get that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
I kind of do, but I don't want to, so
I just, you know, just kind of let that one go.
That whole thing where where NBA players are like, yeah,
we're good, let's let's compete and play more games than
than the regular season calls for so that we can
make a little extra money, And I'm like, what is

(01:50:50):
in this for the fans?

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Like I end up rooting. It's the only time in
my life I've ever rooted against one of my favorite teams.
I'm like, just lose.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
I don't want you tiring yourself out so that Steph
Curry can go make five hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
He makes that every game.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Why do we anyway? All right, great stuff from Steve.
We're not done yet. Something happened early this week. You
and I have been talking about it for months, and
because of the lay of the land with Shador Sanders
in the NBA playoffs, we hadn't even a chance to
talk about it yet, and I would like to talk
to you about it, So we'll do that in these
Fox Sports Radio studios coming up in just a moment.

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(01:52:00):
if you're just joining us, The Bucks reportedly fear that
Dame Lillard has torn his achilles tonight, and so as
you digest that news. The Pacers also lead the Bucks
by eleven at halftime of that game, for the Pacers
up in the series two games to one. And I

(01:52:22):
don't want this to sound kind of like disrespectful to
Dame Lillard, that's the first thought.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
But the injury and the scoreboard make.

Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
You have all kinds of thoughts about Giannis in his
future as well, No doubt about it, no doubt about it.
You know what I haven't had a chance to talk
to you about yet is Cooper flag declaring for the
NBA draft. How did that grab you? What do you

(01:52:54):
think about that? I know some people listening might be like, well, uh,
but like you and I've had I think a lot
of Like You've said some things to me that I'm like, oh,
that's interesting with regard to the way that the landscape
is very very new, nil money, who's going to draft you?

(01:53:17):
All of that? So, like, A, did this surprise you?
B Do you think it sticks?

Speaker 4 (01:53:23):
I don't know, because the option is still there. Look,
I wouldn't fought him for staying, or wouldn't fought him
for going. I think that's where we are right now.
If his dream is to go to the NBA, no
matter what that looks like. Then he leaves, he goes.

(01:53:44):
My only caution is you can go disappear for four years.
You can be the toast of the town and go
disappear for four years.

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
And that's that. And so you know it's gotta be.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
The days of one player coming into a bad NBA
team and making them relevant. That's those days are long gone.
What Lebron was the last one to do that, right,
and I was over twenty years ago right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
He immediately had impact where you were like, oh, okay, right, okay,
this is gonna be different. There are no players like that,
and the league is not set up like that anymore.
So it's one of those things where if he goes

(01:54:47):
to Washington, are Utah?

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Are Charlotte?

Speaker 5 (01:54:53):
Charlotte New Orleans? If he goes to New Orleans, I
got the numbers in front of me.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
You want me to throw something at you, Yeah, check
this out, because I know where people are thinking. You know,
these the teams that are in the lottery, and they're
fourteen of them, the teams that are in the lottery.
I would argue that would be like, oh, that's nice.

(01:55:18):
Everybody talks about San Antonio and I get that Wemby
coming back. Stefan Castle, right, Aaron Fox. Okay, Phoenix is
in the lottery. Now they're a mess, but there's some
talent there and it's Phoenix, Arizona, you know, warm Weather Locale.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Portland's an interesting young and up and coming team. They
they flirted with some stretches of really good basketball this year.
Dallas is in the lottery. You've already talked about some
of the pieces.

Speaker 5 (01:55:59):
That they have there. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
The Bulls are in the lottery, the Kings are in
the lottery. Organizations are kind of kind of a mess
from the inside out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
But listen to this.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Here are the top seven teams in terms of current
lottery odds, and then I'm at the end. I'll give
you add all of these up and the overall percentage
chance that one of them gets the number one pick.
You already mentioned the top three Utah, Washington, Charlotte, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Brooklyn, Toronto.

(01:56:42):
Those are your top seven in terms of odds to
get the number one pick.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Do any of those.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
Sound even a little bit attractive if you're Cooper Flag.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
No, no, no, Maybe Charlotte to play with LaMelo.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
Okay, what about I mean, I know Philly's got these issues,
right embiid and Paul George, But like.

Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
That's what your talent. They the talent.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
It's a big market Brooklyn. Get some shung up and
coming pieces.

Speaker 5 (01:57:16):
It's work. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:57:20):
Those seven teams I just named eighty one percent.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Chance that one of them gets the number one overall pick.

Speaker 5 (01:57:33):
Well the man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
The Spurs have a six percent.

Speaker 5 (01:57:38):
Chance, welcome to the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
The Suns and Blazers have both a little bit below
a four percent chance. The Mavericks have a little bit
below a two percent chance. Eighty one percent chance though,
that one of those seven teams is going to be
the would be landing spot for Cooper Flag.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
So if you were a dad, what would you say, Well,
that's it. You would just make that noise.

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
I would say, I would really find out if Look,
the dream of making professional sports is a rare dream.
Now for some it may seem like less of a
rarity based on hype and productivity. And you know, chances

(01:58:37):
he's an NBA player. He was a seventeen year old
kid at Duke who was clearly the best player in
college basketball. They fell short. So yeah, if the dream
is to go to the NBA and you don't care
where you go, then yeah, go ahead. But dreams can
turn into nightmares. And we're finally watching Polo Benchero fight

(01:59:05):
in claw as the number one pick? What three years ago?
Kate Cunningham is the number one pick four years ago?
Good player, right, No one knew that until this year.
Now he had some injury issues. Victim woman Yama as
good as he is. They have not made the playoffs yet, right, right,

(01:59:26):
So you got to just keep keep that in context.

Speaker 5 (01:59:30):
You can.

Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
You're not going to be as important next year as
you are this year, right, And I mean if that's
not the case, if that's not the goal, then come on,
come on out.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
Well, and that's inevitable to a certain degree, right, inevitable
to a certain degree. Hey man, great stuff this weekend?
Uh you text me on Wednesday night? Okay, talk to you, man,

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