Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam React To Vikings Vs Falcons, Debate Whether There Are Too Many Penalties In The NFL, Da Bears Still Suck, Joe Burrow Injury Prone, And More!!

Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam react to the Vikings vs Falcons on Sunday Night Football in an ugly low scoring game favoring the Falcons. Mark and Ephraim also make the observation on whether the NFL has way too many penalties in the game nowadays or maybe it's just some specific games. Plus, the guys note that Da Bears still in fact suck after this latest loss to the Lions, wonder if after this latest injury it is now fair to state that Joe Burrow is an injury prone player, three things we have learned from Week 2, and much more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'll tell you what they say that sports is a
game of inches.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Life is often a game of inches. What if you were.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
One minute late to the bus stop, or what if
you make that stop light and it's.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Still yellow and you're able to make it through?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
You have no idea how that helps your life going forward?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
What am I getting at all? The margin of air?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
The margin of air, and I'm holding two fingers together
as close as I that's the margin of air in
the NFL. That's how the Chiefs won games every single
week last year and so far this year, it's how
they've lost games.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
We need to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It is the first zero and two start for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Ready for it since high school, since high school.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Good evening, good late evening, good early evening, wherever you
may be in these Fox Sports radio studios. It's Mark
willard E from Salang Week two, National Football League from
how we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We are doing fantastic. It's been a phenomenal day of
NFL football. Goodness, gracious love it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Not a lot of upsets today.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, No, it's weird in.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Week two because I feel like normally in week two
we don't even know, Like we're like, ah, that team's
a favorite, Like why, Mike, I don't know, just cuz
you know what I mean, Like this is a reputation
maybe maybe something you saw last week.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'll hold it for you a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
There's one team that I really want to circle today
that came in today and everyone was like, Okay, they're
looking good.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
And then you saw them today and you're like, never mind.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And I'll tell you which team I'm talking about in
a minute, but go ahead, what stood out to you today?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
And this will hit close to home for you.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Let's go, uh.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Go into the Saints. And of course they were favored
because the Saints are the Saints. But when you have
a backup situation going and and you know your backup
is an ex starter who may or may not have,
you know, been good enough for his team. Now, Mac

(02:23):
Jones is a Pro Bowl He was a Pro bowler
in New England before they decided to let anyone be
the offensive coordinator. A couple guys who had no business
calling offensive plays. And he you know, he did not
benefit from that at all. Right, it set him back.
But to see him come out and we heard that

(02:47):
brock Purdy was going to be out at least this week,
but maybe a couple of weeks, and he had an
opportunity to come out and then to be able to
throw the ball thirty nine times on the road. For
whatever reason this Saints decided, Hey, we not dying today.
They came to play Spencer Ratler also played well and
then he goes on to throw three touchdowns and no interceptions, yes,

(03:12):
and almost two hundred and eighty yards passing. So for me,
that really stood out because we've been saying this all
off season, ever since the schedules come out. The San
Francisco forty nine ers they have a good opportunity number one,
to take hold of the NFC because or at least
their division, because they have the weakest schedule now. Injury

(03:35):
injuries can derail that in a heartbeat. And it stood
out because they're two to zero. I know you're excited.
They fought it. It was ugly last week, brought Prety
through a ass you've never should have thrown. They end
up winning that in the last few seconds of that
game last week, and then you have your backup coming

(03:55):
in on the road and getting to win. What this
is telling me is this team is different from last
year because when they dealt with injuries last year, it
was just a dumpster fire. And the resilience of this
team combined the early resilience combined with their lack of

(04:20):
strength of schedule bodes well for the San Francisco forty
nine ers when they started getting these guys back healthy.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
This is why sometimes, and I know it's been a
big thing in our business the last few weeks because
Ryan Clark and blah blah blah and people doing the
whole like don't you talk to people who've never played
before like that, Like we're not allowed to talk about
the sport. And I support that. Of course we can
talk about the sport. Everybody brings their own perspective. There

(04:48):
are moments that I feel get highlighted when we get
the opportunity to talk to people who have actually done
these things, because there is an appreciation sometimes for things
that fans will look at and dismiss and those who've
done it realize that's not to be dismissed. I'll tell

(05:08):
you something I said and look, it got made fun
of for it because.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
That's how sports radio works.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
But something I said on Thursday or Friday of this
week in the Bay Area, and I spent the whole
week saying, I expect nothing. Everyone's kind of doing the
Oh Mac Jones has played before, he'll come in and
he'll look good because it's Kyle's system, and I'm like, maybe,
but like, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Counting on that.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
This is hard. This is very hard. There's no Brock,
there's no Kittle. We didn't know if Juwan was gonna play.
You're on the road for the second week in a row.
I'm pretty sure the other team pays their players. There's
all these things going on, and I'm like, you can't
act like.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
This is just so turnkey.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
And so what I said was with everything that's going on,
all the adversity there's facing, and we didn't even know
the university they'd faced. Once the game started, Kyle ustik
a concussion, find out that Trent Williams was planning to
not play today until he got to the building.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Like, there's a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So all I said was, if they come out of
this thing with all that has taken place, two to
zero on the road, I am.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Going to be very very impressed.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I am, and I don't think many people are
going to be because I'm already on Twitter getting the
whole like relaxed dog, it's the Saints, and I'm like,
it doesn't matter who that team is. The forty nine
ers stand to be much better at the end of
the year than they are now. If they can be
blessed with health, all those rookies on the defensive side,

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in theory will be better. They can gel as a team,
get their receiving core back, they have a chance to
be better. And now they've got two road wins in
the back pocket before for any of that starts that
cannot be undersold. And oh, by the way, I brow up,
maybe the Seahawks team they beat last week.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Ah, maybe that team wasn't that bad, not that bad.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Maybe that team wasn't that bad.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I don't know if you all watch football today in Pittsburgh.
So I'm with you, man, like I am going to
be trumpeting all week. Do not under sell what has
just taken place with the forty nine ers start, even
if you want to call it ugly, call it ugly.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, I think the NFL games are so hard to win.
I've been on great teams, I've been on bad teams.
I've been on okay teams. The one thing I know
about every single team I've been on, you have to
have been able to collectively lock in and really focus

(07:55):
in on the objective at hand. And that's any given week,
no matter who's hurt, who's playing, who's there, who's not,
you have to lock in and and really put it
all on the line. And when I see a team
missing key components, the number one key component in your quarterback,

(08:22):
their number one of receiving weapon and be able to
go on the road, it doesn't really matter who they're playing,
because it's so that in itself is destabilizing to a team.
And whenever you can raise your head above the fray
and come away with the victory on situations, I have

(08:43):
to take my eye of my hat off to you,
and I gotta keep my eye on you. And because
there's something to be said about resilience, there's something to
be said about what a win like that means in
the locker room. Right, we didn't have all our pieces, Yes, right,
we did not have all our pieces, and we came

(09:05):
away with the victory. And so that is call momentum.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Tell you what absolutely like, I'm with you and we
can extend it well, be beyond the one team that
we're talking about. Absolutely, division in which they play my
friend is seven and one. Yea, And they're not allowed
to be eight to zero because two of them played
each other last week, so they are seven and one,

(09:31):
and you can Titans and Saints, and the Saints are
two of the losses in fact, and Carolina Panthers and
all the teams that the NFC West has beaten seven
and one, seven and one with a bunch of them,
a bunch of them have been on the road, including
what the Seahawks did today, what the forty nine ers

(09:51):
have done both days, all of that. So you and
I both said it a few weeks ago that NFC
West might not have the highest but it's got a
really high floor because I don't think any of the
four teams are bad. There's no dormat where you get
your two games against that team that doesn't exist. That's
been proven already through these first two weeks, and so

(10:14):
that division is going to be a war all year long.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh yeah, I think you know the team coming out
of that division will be blood. It'll be two teams
coming out of that division presumably for the playoffs. It's
it's I'm telling you the forty nine ers and forty
nine or faithfuls should be happy. They should be a
static because they know they're going to get these pieces back.

(10:39):
They know they will get healthy, and when that happens,
they'll already all of those guys in backup roles are playing.
That's what you call adding depth to your roster. So
if something does happen down the road as we get
into the you know, the groundhog days of the NFL

(11:00):
second half, presumably, and someone goes down, the team has
faith that it can win games on the road or
at home without key valuable pieces. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
We'll hop back to the Chiefs and Mahomes in just
a second, Bills and Ravens two. We'll get you ready
for the game that's kicking off in eight minutes. One
more thing on that forty nine er game today. This
is a little bit of an intricate deal. I know
you'll get what I'm about to say.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
That was the perfect way for Mac.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Jones to play for the health of the entire discussion.
And here's what I mean. I don't know how many
of you watched the entire game. He came out wobbly.
The stats that you referenced were very good. He made
some big time throws. He also had moments where he
kind of looked like a backup. He doesn't have the

(11:51):
pocket presence of the legs that some others around the league,
including the starter with the forty nine ers have. He
fumbled at one point, kept the same ain'ts in the
football game.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
So here's what I mean by that.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
He played really well and I was impressed, and he
showed that they've elevated their backup position and he can
win a football game while also not making anybody think
that the star. Thank you, thank you. And if you
think that, then you're a box score baby. That's my
that's my take. If you think that, all you did

(12:26):
was look at the box score. If you watch that
football game, you saw the moments where the forty nine
ers were missing their starting QB. But he also did
well enough and in the situation that he's thrown into
week two in a new system, beautiful performance.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Beautiful performance.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
And like you just said, the Niners need to feel
not bulletproof, but they need to feel a lot, a
lot more depth than what they had last year.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, I think when you come off a year like
you had last year for a team that's been historically good,
especially the last four years prior to last year, then
you have questions. When people start getting hurt. The first
thing you do is go to your your default setting
of oh no, here we go again. But when you

(13:16):
can come That's why I said keeping your head above
the frame. When you can come out of that and
be like, oh no, this is different, this isn't this
isn't last year, and you can start with adversity and
with wins. It does tremendous, tremendous things in that locker room.
That added value of winning like this is unbelievable, especially

(13:39):
on the road.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Mahomes is zero and two.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
The Chiefs now. I'm gonna give them a little grace.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
They have played two opponents I think are both quality opponents.
I think the Chargers are a very good team. The
Eagles are obviously the defending champs.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I can't wait to get into this on these.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
They already had to go to a different cune.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh, they played very close one score football games. They
have got their own adversity at their receiver position that
they are popular with the.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Patrick Mahomes is there.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Okay, cool, cool.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Patrick Mahomes is there. I think he threw for at
least seventy or eighty yards today. What was the final talent.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Murder?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's like late third quarter that I was on red Z,
Patrick Mahomes is throwing for sixty yards. I'm like, what
what's going on in this football game?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Guess what the uh? And this is a direct correlation.
Guess what the Kansas City Chiefs were last year? They
were a team that won seventeen straight one score games,
and they won him in.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
A crazy, ridiculous fashion, Just ridiculous, constant, ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
What I know to be a fact is team teams
that do that the next year struggle in winning those games.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, not sustainable.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
It is completely not sustainable. It just so happens that
they've lost two one score games back to back to start.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Just so happens.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Just so happens.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
All right, more on that.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Plus, we get you ready for the Kirk Cousins Bowl,
in which he's not playing.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
The Falcons and the.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Vikings are about to get together on Sunday night football.
We're gonna watch it together. Let's have a good time.
We got a lot to get through, so let's get started.
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(17:15):
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Speaker 1 (17:18):
What are you thinking tonight?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
It'd be interesting to see who Minnesota is.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yep. I like that.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm curious even though they're one and zero, I'm really
curious to really see just who they are and what
they're about to bring to the table this year. It's
jury still out in my opinion on Jam McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
So it's one of those Okay, you played a Bears
team in a tight game who got fifty one put
on them today? So you know, I just want to
know who the Minnesota Vikings are. We know they have

(18:13):
an excellent roster, we know they have excellent coaching, but
can they be can we get a rehash of Sam
Darnold and JJ McCarthy a little bit younger, a little
bit more athletic. Is that possible?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
While you're talking obviously a Vikings fans like, can we
talk about the defense before we talk about the offense,
because the Falcons have the ball. They handed it off
to Bijon Robinson twice and they're already down there practically
to the red zone.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
So the red zone the Falcons.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, Falcons are coming in hot after two plays, them
moving down the field.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
And I'm with you, I do not.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I do not think that that win in Chicago last
week tells me a whole lot of Vikings at all.
I mean, first of all, they're getting they're getting punked
around for two and a half quarters at least now
game goes four quarters. I give them credit for coming
back and rallying the way they did. But yes, to me,

(19:14):
week two is always your best informational week of the
entire NFL season because you have to you have to
grab everything you saw week one, and then you've got
to see all of those teams do something else against
someone else, and then you're able to kind of go, oh,
that thing that happened the first week actually meant something

(19:35):
or it didn't. And as you just pointed out watching
the Bears play football today that certainly we're doing yeah
something and that that to a degree, whether anybody likes
it or not, it downgrades a little bit of what
we saw from the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I also thought Atlanta outplayed Tampa for the majority.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Michael Pennix, Yeah, out play Baker May.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Absolutely and they So it was kind of like the
Vikings got outplayed in won, the Falcon outplayed someone else
and lost. So let's see these two get together again.
And I do I like Atlanta. I know they're an
underdog tonight. I like them to win this game.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Out right, And so going into this game, I guess
it's safe to say there's a question mark because there's
a question mark on both sides, like who are they?
And you start to discover who teams are as early
as the second week. The first week it's a one
off anything, you know, it's just it's like that, the
NFL is like that. But the second week, if you

(20:32):
can stack consistency and you okay, okay, they're doing this consistently,
they're not doing that consistently. Like there's several teams that
played today where I'm like, oh, even though they won
last year, I see glaring holes in either the offensive
side of the ball or the defensive side of the ball.

(20:55):
And you know, most notably the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like that
to me is wild.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
You just that was my team that I was referring
to earlier.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yep, when I said there was one football team this
week who Week one, everybody went hey, okay, And then
week two, I was like, never mind, I'm I'm out
on this party, and the Steelers are it. And and
there's all kinds of evidence in multiple directions. There's the
game that they won last week, and then what did

(21:30):
that team do today? Well, the Jets certainly look like
what they look like the Jets again, So if the
Jets are actually still the Jets, then what was it
that Pittsburgh actually was.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Doing last week? Grinding out a win over that team?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Then you come home for your home opener, your home opener,
and traditionally a vaunted defense. This is the Steelers defense
we're talking about, and they have now been carved up
by Justin Fields and the Jets, even though they won,
and then carved up by Sam Donald and the Seahawks,
who couldn't even get to mid teens last week in

(22:06):
their home opener. I just think there's there's a checklist
going on there. We're not done yet, but that's a
lot of evidence that the Steelers are not in a
very good spot.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, there's something off, and it's unlike the Steelers, but
in that division, if you can't play defense a little bit, brother,
this thing is gonna be over before it even gets started.
And that's they did all of this to get Aaron

(22:37):
Rodgers in and he's coming in, he's trying to sling
the ball around the yard. But the fact that they can't,
they can't stop anybody. Yep, Like it's bad.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Right, They're just like they're just like the Bengals. It's
like the Bengals with a worse offense is basically what
they look like to me so far.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, it's you can't, I mean, as good as they've
been historically, you can't give up one hundred yard rushers
back to back. It just it throws off your equilibrium.

(23:18):
Just like whenever we're a minute long and now I'm
discombobulated because Steve Dezeger should be giving us this smooth,
sultry voice right about now.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Good evening, gentlemen, and you kind of reference this the
Kansas City Chiefs. Last season, the exact stat in games
decided by seven points or less were undefeated ten.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
And oh oh.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
This season and games decided by seven points or less
oh and two. Yes, they started oh and two with
Patrick Mahomes for the first time and Jalen Hurts now
has a winning record career against Mahomes. By the way
the Cardinals held on to win, They've started two and
oh for the first time since the last time they
made the playoffs, which is four years ago. The twelf
you win was twenty to seventeen at Kansas City. Jake

(24:03):
Elliott last year on field goals from fifty yards plus
went one for seven, but in the opener a fifty
eight yarder, and today on the road from fifty one
and fifty eight he made it and Philly wins by three.
As for the game at Arizona, Cardinals lead over the
Carolina Panthers was twenty seven to three late in the
third quarter twenty seven to twenty two to the final,

(24:26):
a big difference in the game. The Cards on the
first drive of the game scored a touchdown on a
fumble return after sacking Bryce Young. Young three touchdown passes
but two turnovers. Indianapolis stole one from Denver and the
Broncos kind of handed it to him. Twenty nine, twenty
eight Colts the final on a forty five yard field goal.
On the final play. The Colts had just missed a

(24:47):
sixty yard attempt, but Denver was flagged for leverage a
fifteen yard penalty. Forty five yard attempt was good to win.
Spencer Schrader went five for five on field goals. Jonathan
Taylor a hundre at sixty five yards rushing at a
TD reception, Daniel Jones in the victory, three hundred sixteen
yards passing and two total touchdowns. Crazy game at Dallas.

(25:10):
Earlier in overtime win for the Cowboys against the oh
and two Giants forty to thirty seven. Russell Wilson four
hundred and fifty yards passing in defeat Baltimore forty one
seventeen winners against Cleveland, which is OH to two, Lamar
Jackson four touchdown passes. Seattle won at Pittsburgh thirty one seventeen.
Kenneth Walker on thirteen carries at one hundred five yards

(25:32):
rushing in a score Buffalo's two and oh after winning
at the Jets thirty to ten. Justin Field's Jets quarterback
suffered a concussion fourth quarter. He at five carries forty
nine yards. Today James Cook one hundred thirty two yards
rushing in the victory and two touchdowns. San Francisco's two
and oh after winning at New Orleans twenty six twenty one,
Mac Jones three touchdown passes and the New San Francisco

(25:55):
kicker Eddie Pinero missed his first extra point try. The
Rams are two and oh after winning at Tennessee thirty
three nineteen. DeVante Adams six catches one hundred and six
yards in a score. Detroit got four touchdowns in the
first half and kept going fifty two twenty one the
final over Chicago, which is oh and two. Jared Goff
five touchdown passes as the Lions at home beat Ben Johnson,

(26:18):
their former offensive coordinator, who was booed loudly before this game. Today,
New England won thirty three to twenty seven at Miami.
The Dolphins are zero and two. Drake May three total touchdowns.
Speaking of kickers, by the way, Patriots hicker Andy Boragalis
missed his first two extra point attempts, but still a
Pats win on the road Cincinnati two and oh after

(26:40):
defeating Jacksonville thirty one twenty seven on a touchdown with
about twenty seconds left. It came on a quarterback sneak
from Jake Browning. He had three total touchdowns and three interceptions.
The Bengals starter and star quarterback Joe Burrow left after
being sacked in the second quarter. Hobbled to the locker room.
It is a toe entry.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
He had an MRI.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
There is the Sunday night game you referenced with the
Falcons up three to nothing at Minnesota. In the opening minutes,
Atlanta got the ball. First first play from scrimmage Bison
Bijon Robinson twenty five yards. Second play from scrimmage Robinson
for seventeen yards. UCLA Football fired coach to Sean Foster.
His team was oh and three and last year started

(27:20):
one to five. Virginia Tech fired coach Brent Pry after
an OH to three start. In baseball at Boston tonight,
six runs in the first inning for the Red Sox.
They now lead six to three against the Yankees. In
the top of the fifth inning, Aaron Judge has just
hit his forty eighth home run of the season. At Seattle,
cal Raley with his fifty fourth of the year. The

(27:42):
Mariners beat the Angels eleven to two. Cal Raley has
tied Mickey Mantle's record most homers by a switch hitter
in one season, and the Mariners have won nine in
a row. The Dodgers and Padres each one. Toronto got
a victory the Mets in ten innings, walked off Texas
five to two. Kansas City won ten to three at Philadelphia.
All the Phils have clinched a playoffs spot, and the

(28:04):
Phillies start a series at Dodger Stadium tomorrow. The WNBA
playoffs started today with wins from Minnesota and Atlanta. New
York won an overtime at Phoenix the late game, and
an hour and a half we'll have Las Vegas hosting
Seattle and guys. Dennis Schreuder was named EuroBasket MVP is
His team Germany won the gold, taking Turkey in the
final as Shrewder scored the game's final six points. Final

(28:27):
score eighty eight eighty three.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Back to you, Steve, great as always. You said something
in there that I wanted to bat around a little bit.
Did you say that Ben Johnson was booed loudly in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
S Yes.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
My first reaction was they must be booing their own
own offense in absence of Ben Johnson.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Right, does this makes it? I'm trying to figure it out.
So I'm a Lions fan. I've never won a damn thing.
I appreciate the hell out of stuff that usually is,
even just if it gets to be or B plus level,
which hit Jared Goff's name in every city we've visited
it as if he's Joe Montana or Tom Brady, even
though he's good like good player, but would chant his

(29:06):
name like crazy, even though what has happened when he's
taken us to the playoffs. They've lost, They've lost football games,
they blew a seventeen point lead in the NFC title
game two years ago, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Ben Johnson has offered a promotion.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Would you have to take you have to take that?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
You? I don't what are we booing? What's being don
I don't understand what he did? What did he do?

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Yeah, not him personally that the offense didn't look good
in the first game without him, and the Lions, of
course had the NFC's best offense last year, and where
the conference's top passing team and where the league's top
scoring team thirty three points a game, and now they
don't have him. That's all I can figure. It's just
his absence. But to actually Boo his appearance on the

(29:51):
field pregame raised an eyebrow.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah that makes sense to you, he from, No, it
doesn't make sense. And it also doesn't make sense, uh
me about the mechanics of quarterback sneak fourth down JJ McCarthy. No,
that was territory and you fumble the snap.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
Fourth and one no gain?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Why we can even go forward in your own territory
this building.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Which means Atlanta can take over. Give it to Robinson again.
He's got five carries for over fifty yards already.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
They're in score. There can score points right now. If
they don't gain another yard, they have another three points.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
They have a new kicker tonight. Remember after losing last
week at the end, young Waykup was not cut, but
he just isn't.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Active deactivated for Parker Romo, who celebrated as if it
was his birthday on his field goal attempt a few
minutes ago, which was a short one that barely went
into I.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Medi eight yards of barely meanwily. I talked about the
Patriots kicker. You think the Patriots could use John Parker
Romo right now?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean a lot of teams could use. You want
to know what I do know Dallas doesn't need a kicker.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
They do not good ward. I like, what is there?
Four yards? The team sixty.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Four yards the final regulation?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh my god, that was one of the greatest kicks
I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
And when they got the ball again in overtime, You're thinking, Okay,
he's already made it from sixty four, so they almost
don't need a first down here, right, And you know
they got within fifty inside fifty and they won it.
But you know, you and I both know he probably
could have made another sixty four yarder. It's such an
easy swing of the leg with him. And didn't he
make a sixty five about a year ago, So it's

(31:41):
not a It.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Would have been good from seventy five if the thing
was it was like it flew well above the crossbar
in meantime, I'm I'm for sure. The Colts coaching staff
watched the Cowboy game because at the end of their game,
they're down by two points and they're like out at
their own they're at the forty one yard line.

Speaker 7 (32:02):
Sixty yard attempt at tend them for you, But.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
They were running the ball as if they were like,
we're good, we're in field goal range.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Let's just run the clocks.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Because you're indoors, doesn't mean anything goes through.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I'm like looking at the kicker.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm like, they're looking at you thinking sixty yards were good, right,
like you'll make that.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
And then he attempted it and it was short. It
wasn't as closed it left or right. It just didn't
make it.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And then the penalty allows him to move fifteen yards
and try again. He from I was thinking to you
all day, cause you and I have now because you
came on my show locally this week too. We've had
two lengthy he from hates Kickers conversations.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Look, it's not that.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I'm watching today and I'm going, oh God, just got
to be losing his mind.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It just for me. Look, and this is this is
what and I'm just what I've been saying, But this
is what I'll say about it when we when any
other position goes out there, there is an expectation of success.
You expect the quarterback to be able to pass the
ball down the field, to be able to not throw interceptions.

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You expect the offensive line and I give up sacks
to open up room for the running back.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
The Texas Longhorn fans are expecting screen passes to be completed, yes.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
The quarterback right, Oh goodness.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Today, with three minutes to go, they line up for
a forty two yard field goal for insurance and miss
it and then lose by one.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
That's why I have a problem with it because there
is no outrage at the press conference after right, no
one is talking about the kicker is not in the
press conference, but the quarterback is right. The running back
who fumbled is right. Everybody was looking at Derrick Henry

(33:51):
last week like, oh god, right, why don't we have
that same energy for the kickers?

Speaker 7 (33:57):
And that was a forced fumbel on Henry.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Right, Like so I'm like, yo, bro, all you gotta
do is come out and do the thing that you've
done your whole life, and that's all you do.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
You're not wrong, but I would like to buy you
a plane ticket to the Bay Area. If what you'd
like to hear is people being mad at a kicker,
because my.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Man, we've had a good month. We've had a good month.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
If what you like is people mad at a kicker, Listen,
that guy got run out of town.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
When a quarterback is off, you will see the head
coach over there, the offensive coordinator over there, the quarterbacks
coach over there, the receivers on his back. If a
running back is fumbling, you will see the head coach,
the position coach on his back. Kicker, missus, he's sitting

(34:45):
over there on the bench with no one talking to him.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
The great stat that you bring up. Jake Moody of
the forty nine ers. They waived him this week. He's
on the Bears practice squad. This is a guy they
spent a third round draft choice only.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
Two years ago.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
It turns out of the ten different kickers drafted in
the top one seventy five last ten drafts, only Evan
McPherson made it past the first game of his third
season with the team that drafted him. Can we say loudly,
do not spend draft capital on kickers.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Don't do it, No, just do not.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Ever, he should never draft a kicker because they'll all
be in free agency and you're gonna shuffle him around anyway.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
No doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, Like, if he does live up to his draft status,
is going to be too expensive in three years or
like there's no need.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Remember Roberto Aguio with the Bucks suspent that kind of
draft capital.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
I think he lasted one year with Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Didn't the Raiders? And I know this raid. The Raiders
did a first round Janakowski. That's funny. Even though it
kind of worked, that's still it's like, but it did it?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Did it work?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Though? I mean like I mean, I mean, he was good,
he was good, but.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I can promise you he would have been available in
the fifth round. Yeah, that's the point. He would have
been available in the fifth round.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
It's like people who draft kickers early in fantas, Oh.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
My god, well he's scoring. No, he won't.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
By the way, we've got a twenty nine yard field
goal attempt. Were just going to say out loud, we're fine,
it's indoors. The new kicker for Atlanta is going to
send it right.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
Down the middle and he do we better? There you go?
Six nothing falcons?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Okay, okay, all right, well a few What would he
have said if that didn't go in.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
We're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
We would have had to alert the affiliates we were
going over to.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, dump button, dump button? Good ready, Patrick, dumb button?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Oh man?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
All right, much more coming up and three things at
the top of the hour on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
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Speaker 2 (37:00):
So the Falcons not only have field goals on their
first two drives, they now have the ball again.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Six nothing Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Well, live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, watching Sunday
Night football together. Now, this is just a little thing,
but it's bugging me, and I got to ask some
people about it. I need some help here. You got
to explain this to me now, because I don't understand it.
I don't like not understanding things. I just want to understand.
If you'd explain it to me, then I won't be

(37:30):
bugged anymore. Okay, Why is anybody ever bringing the ball
out of the end zone on a kickoff?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Why is anybody ever.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Bringing the ball out of the end zone on a kickoff?
We can wait till next week to find out why
anybody's kicking.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
It in there.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Even understand that. But this is what happens when stupid
meets stupid, you get stupid er. It's stupid to kick
the ball in the end zone. It's stupid her to
bring it out. I can't tell you how many players
I've watched. They're two yards deep in the end zone,
they catch the thing and they come flying out of
there because they're gonna return it all the way. They're

(38:22):
going one hundred and two and they're gonna have their
big moment. No you're not, dude. You're gonna be down
at the twenty one yard line and you could have
had it at the thirty five, or you could return
it out to the thirty five, and then what happens,
Oh damn it, I see a yellow hanky. Because what

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often happens in special teams on kick returns the blocking
team holds.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Is what just happened.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Minnesota brought it out of the end zone and only
made it to the twenty and got a penalty, so
they moved back from there and went nowhere and punt.
Just explain it to me, like.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
This is as close to an explanation.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I can give you.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
All of those guys returning kicks really like it, and
they're really good at it. Okay, it's like buying a
sports car in New York. You don't have anywhere to
drive it.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
This is a great analogy.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Actually, you don't have anywhere to drive. So you may
get up at three am and go out and get
on the turnpike just to open it up once or
twice a week, and probably we'll get a speeding ticket.
But what are you supposed to do. I made a

(39:54):
living or I made a career of doing this, so good.
Then I'm in the league and I get a chance
to do it. Oh, but they're telling me I can't
do it. And every time I touch it, I think
I can score a touchdown, no matter where, no matter
where I am. Remember Devin Hester and Dante Hall used

(40:16):
to bring it out from the back of the end zone,
like like reaching over the back of the end zone
and grabbing it and taking off. That's that's it. That's
why you can't even stop yourself that.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
That's a wonderful explanation. Where's the coach to go, young man?
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
That's your wife at home, like I know you're not
going out in the sports car. Still, yeah, you should listen,
but you can't help yourself.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
It's a good explanation, it's a good act, like I'm
glad that what I'm saying is right, but it was
also a good yes, the very good Yeah. Okay, let's
do Three things are top observations nack.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's week two in the National Football League. We're watching
Sunday night football. The Falcons lead the Viking six to nothing,
although they were about to be in position to basically
make it a two score game. Drake London, on a
pass into the high red zone, fumbles the football and
the Vikings pick it up, and so that was a

(41:22):
little bit of a momentum swing. We'll keep an eye
on that as they now try to take it the
other direction.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
But it's not just this one.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's all of the football games on the week too,
Slate that we've been talking out two more that are
coming up tomorrow night that will help get you ready
for as well. However, every single week in this football season,
right about now, which is six o'clock Pacific, nine o'clock
Eastern time, we bring you three things, which are our

(41:52):
three top observations, the three top things on our mind
after watching a full day of football, and everything as
it did, come together. So here we go. Let's do
it three things, and my man eat from salam. You
want to go first?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
You please?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Oh? Okay, I get to go first. Here it is.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Same old Bengals, but two and oh, let's not forget
them in the same conversation that you and I had
about the forty nine ers, which is that, how have
the Bengals arrived at two? And oh, well, they've beaten
the Browns and the Jags. Nobody thinks much of those teams. Also,
the Browns missed a field goal in order for the

(42:36):
Bengals to win, and today the Bengals needed a touchdown
from a yard out with less than a minute to
go in order to grind one out and overcome three
interceptions by their backup quarterback who's also a high level backup.
And so here we are again. The Bengals can score,
but they can't stop anyone.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
And how's this going to work?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
And then Burrow goes out and he's probably gonna miss
some time with a toe injury. Good go lot. Does
this sound familiar? This is the forty nine Ers. This's
the same two things going on. We got a turf
toe quarterback and a wonky weird way to get to
two and zero. But they're here. So it is the

(43:20):
same old Bengals, and I have my concerns. But the
difference is is remember the start of their year last year,
it was a mess and they couldn't recover. This time,
they found a way to actually win both games.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Okay, I like it, all right? All right for me,
My first one is they are who we thought they were.
And I'm going to start with the Baltimore Ravens. Okay,
the Baltimore Ravens are good. Despite hey man, what we
saw in the fourth quarter last week. The Baltimore Ravens

(43:55):
are a team that teams are going to have. Unless
you have a Josh Allen, you're going to struggle against them.
They showed us last week that they can run the
ball with the best of them. They didn't run the
ball as well, but they managed to put up this week.
But they managed to put up forty one points. Lamar

(44:18):
Jackson had four touchdown passes. I mean, they are They're immaculate.
And on the flip side of that, I'll also say
the Buffalo Bills are legit watching them play football last
week and this week they should be the odds on
favor to win it all. I don't see Josh Allen is.
He's levitating right now, likes he's ascending to another level

(44:43):
before our eyes. So they are who exactly we thought
they were.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I love what you're saying, Bills and Ravens.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
To me feel a lot like early returns might be
kind of like early's nineties Cowboys Niners. Yes, where we
knew the super Bowl was actually the conference title game.
We'll see if we get there. A long way to go,
but I'm with you, those two teams are just different. Okay,
speaking of they are who we thought they were, I'm
so glad you use that phrase because it leads perfectly

(45:10):
into my second point, which before I make it, it
needs a little musical flavor, if you will. How many
times must we take this disgrace another man's fan throwing

(45:34):
insults in our face? The Packers are our greatest team
through ever played that game, even and from.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Times that time they been I a little lame.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
How could you ever love a team with Jim McMahon,
not even Porky Big he was as big at him.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
They got our rampantation that's mostly based on lock the Bears.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
You still suck, Yeah, sing it with me, still.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Sun, The Bears still suck. The Bear Bear still suck.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, really really sucks. Bears still suck. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen,
the Bears still suck. I don't know how to feel
about that team coming out of the Monday night game.
I'm like you, I thought you were going to win,
and then and then you look like you were gonna win,

(46:26):
and then you won most of the game and then
all of a sudden everything went all bears ish, and
and you lost that game. And you've got your fancy
new head coach who's a great offensive coordinator. You've got
your number one pick in the draft in year two,
and it's supposed to make sense, and and and these

(46:47):
on defense, the monsters of the Midway, like what on
Earth is going on? Just embarrassed, outclassed, and totally outplayed
in every facet of the game in Detroit today. And
so we have our answer. You've got a new head coach,
and it doesn't matter. The Bears still suck.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Okay, And you're absolutely right. They just look disjointed. They
look like every time Caleb Williams drops back, it's very inconsistent.
That's the thing. Good pass, bad play. Yep, good pass,
bad play. And I know it's gonna take some time

(47:31):
for him and Ben Johnson to get on the same page.
But you don't have time. This is the NFL. There's
not a lot of time out there just being handed
out for you to figure it out. Their jobs on
the line and decisions will be made before you're ready
for them to be made. And so I just it's
been two years of high hopes coming into the season

(47:52):
for the Bears, and it just seems like it's the
same old same all for me. Uh oh, we got
trouble and I'm gonna start. I'm always trying to do
two teams. I'm gonna start with the Chiefs. We mentioned
it earlier in the show, and the fact that they

(48:13):
are not able to close out these one score games.
This is going this is a problem, okay. And yes,
they played two dynamic teams the Chargers. We're not sure
if they're a dynamic, but they sure look like Justin
Herbert just stepped right on up and outduel with Patrick Mahomes.

(48:35):
But they're going to New York this coming week and
playing a scrappy Giants team that we watched give Dallas
everything they had and look, man, it's easy to say
they're gonna, of course blow them out, but then they
have the Ravens, So they're in a crazy well at
the end of the first quarter of the season after

(48:56):
four games, they could be one in three. There's a trouble.
There's a mouse in the house. And on the flip side,
I want to also talk about the Steelers. We talked
about that earlier. That defense is a problem. They're going
to be in trouble, especially in this division, because that

(49:18):
defense isn't able to stop anybody, and so this thing
can spiral out of control no matter what Aaron Rodgers does.
That's the scary, crazy part. They must play defense first.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Always have and I would have said always will, But
so far this year I'm with you. I like your phrase.
Uh oh yeah, it doesn't look good. Okay, here is
my number three and it is Jackson. Dark has to
wait for week five. There were rumors on Monday and
Tuesday that Brian day Ball was pushing for this to

(49:57):
happen right now.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Why wait?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Ausell Wilson looked like he was washed quite frankly Week
one against Washington. Don't get me wrong, the Giants still lost.
Russell still threw a really bad interception in overtime and
took a couple sacks at the wrong time.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
At the same time.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Four hundred fifty yards passing today for Russell Wilson and
three touchdown throws. And here's the fact I learned from
listening to my partner Ephraim, and the New York Giants
are not going to say to their prize rookie Jackson Dart, Okay,

(50:40):
your job.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
As the Chiefs come to town, that's the wrong time.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
To do that. That's the wrong time. That's a good defense.
That's a good team. The following week, the Los Angeles
Chargers come to town.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
That's a good defense. That's a good team.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So what Russell did today, even though it may only
betistically important, I think, is he pushed that can down
the road a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
You're still lost, which is perfect.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Keep building the zero to four that you and I
both predicted, which would lead to Jackson Dart being named
the starter for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
On October fifth in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
That will be the spot in my opinion, when Jackson
Dart will get the gig.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
And I'll say this about Brian day Ball and that
coaching staff. They to me, they're doing some things that
are undermining them as a team. Interesting as hot as
Russell Wilson was today, and they had these plays where
they brought Jackson Dart in, Yeah, I know. Russell Wilson
was like, what are you? I mean they were throwing
some of those downs, they were throwing them away. It

(51:47):
was like second and three and then you bring them
in and now like, what are you doing? The man
almost threw for five hundred yards. Yeah, it's not the
time to play every down matters. Don't don't get cute.
Don't get cute. And I didn't like that, I really didn't.
I thought that was undermining of the team and the
rhythm and the flow that was happening. For me, I'm

(52:12):
going to step out of the world of football for
my last one trend. Do you ever seen the movie
Hustling Flow with Terrence Terrence Howard? Absolutely, he had a
song in They're called Whoop that Trick? Yes, And I
spent Saturday night, like most people on the planet, watching

(52:37):
one of the biggest boxing matches, real boxing matches ever
with Bud Crawford and Canela Alvarez. And I watched Bud
Crawford whoop that trick like he beat him. It's to
the point where I was like, oh wow, everybody was

(53:00):
saying because Bud was moving up to weight classes. Canelo
is a naturally bigger fighter, and you could tell his
latch his back. Canelo is huge the power and to
have Crawford stand toe to toe with him and out
box him, it was a masterful, masterful fight. And you know,

(53:22):
my hat goes off to Canelo as well, a true champion,
But Bud Crawford is the undisputed pound for pound best
boxer on the planet Earth, and it was just at
forty two and old. If he retired today, he goes
down in history as one of the very few who
can be move up five weight classes and be champion,

(53:45):
but be undisputed in three of those weight classes. So,
you know, shout out to Bud Crawford and his whole crew.
That was a tremendous, tremendous fight on Netflix this weekend.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I am really digging this U e from takes one
of his three and goes completely somewhere else thing that
you've been doing for the last two weeks.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
It's just so much out there. Man, there's a lot
out there.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
There is a lot out there. There's a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Did you see that fight?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
No, we were out last I saw it in the
background out like full disclosure. Took the whole family to
a concert last night, and then we're we're up in
Taho right now, and we then, uh, you know, hit
the casinos for a little bit, and I saw it
put a little and then so but I saw it.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I saw it right.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
You hear the yelling and everything, but you know, the
blackjack tables were calling. I had to go get that instead. Yeah,
I probably would have been smarter for me to go
watch the fight.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, it's it was. It was great, man, And it
was one of those things where you know, Canelo has
been even though he didn't look like the Canelo we
all know in love in his last fight, he's the bigger,
stronger fighter, and it just was a remarkable spectacle. It's
one of those things where people were saying boxing are

(55:13):
losing Boxing is losing some of his luster because of
the exhibition fights and the YouTubers fighting and the spectacle
of it all. But last night, shout out to Riad
Season and Netflix and Dana White and all of those
guys putting that because it was a show, it was
like a borderline a little concert going on. It just

(55:35):
it was an event. The undercar was tremendous, and Netflix
people didn't have to pay extra to watch the fight.
It just made for an entertaining Saturday evening after college football.
And again shout out to Bud Crawford for doing something
that most didn't think he could do.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Love it, Love it. Yeah, it's been a big weekend,
no doubt.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Vikings on the board just moments ago, field goal of
their own, cutting the lead in half. Falcons now lead
this one six to three in the second quarter. We're
live in the Fox Sports Radio studios and we'll keep
you up to date on that. And then he from
I got to run this by you just right before
the show, where me and my kids are sitting here,
we're watching all of the of the games, and my

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daughter throws something at me that I want to run
by you, a statement about the NFL in general.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
She made this statement as the Panthers were.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Trying to drive to beat the Cardinals late and it
was defensive holding, and then it was intentional grounding, and
then it was offensive holding, and then it was roughing
the passer. And she said something that I want to
run by you and get your take, So.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
We'll do that.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Coming up next with you from Salami, Mark, whether it's
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
That's a good jam right there.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
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Speaker 1 (57:24):
So we're cruising right.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
We're watching ball all day and then we're out running
a little errand as the Panthers and Cardinals suddenly becomes
a game. What once was twenty seven to three is
now twenty seven to twenty two, and the Panthers have
executed a on side kick and they've got the ball

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and they're on the move, and I don't remember exactly
how it went, but it was something something to the
effect of intentional grounding followed by defensive holding, followed by
roughing the passer, followed by something, and it was back
and forth and back and forth, and it.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Didn't go anywhere, and the Cardinals won the football game.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
And my daughter goes too many penalties in the National
Football League. Has it always been like this, because I
don't feel like it's always been like this, And she's sixteen,
so it's not like she's got years and years under
her belt of watching the NFL. But I'm like, I

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don't even know if that thought hadn't crossed my mind,
but it was an interesting thought, especially from a young
fan who really loves watching. I mean, if the penalties
are there, you gotta call them. We had also just
come from watching the Broncos Colts finish, which those of
you who didn't watch that end, the Colts move all

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the way down, but then they get conservative kind of
settle for a sixty yard field goal attempt at the
buzzer comes nowhere close, but there was a leverage penalty,
and all.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
The websites had already put.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
The Broncos won the game, and there's a whole hold
on a second move fifteen yards forward. Kick it again.
This time it's good Colts win. What would you have
said to her? Too many penalties in the in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (59:25):
No, no, no, no. I would have said, no, no, no, honey,
just this game. These are two bad teams trying to
give away a game.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Okay, so let's that's a funny response.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
So let's not watch this. And I would have immediately
turned it off. So I wouldn't sully sully her, you know,
her notion of what the NFL is. Yeah, I mean,
watching that game, it was hard to watch because at
a certain point it was just like, okay, it's just
not like Carolina. It's just not good football. It's just

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not good football by any stretches the imagination. So it's
difficult to it's difficult to watch them play like I
even if they do something good, it just doesn't doesn't
bryce feel small again. He feels very small out there,

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and so he plays small and it's it's difficult as
JJ McCarthy just threw a pick, but there's a flag down, So.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Too many penalties.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
But it's just makes it difficult to watch and to see.
You know, I don't know, man, I was watching that
game and I was trying not to watch it, but
I was like, oh, you know, it's Brian's gonna be
able to bring him back. He had a perfect opportunity,
defense got him the ball back. It was right there

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for the taking, and it just fizzle doubt, And you know,
Carolina was like, look, we're gonna he came back after
we benched him last year and he finished up okay,
so let's take another chance on him. And they'll be
drafting in the top two pick three picks in the

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NFL draft next April, and they will take a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Like I'm sitting here already, and I don't know how
much he's caught your eye. I know he's the top
ten pick, so maybe this isn't surprising. But my man,
Tep McMillan can be a star in this league. He
can be a star as he's played two football games.
And I'm watching him right now and I'm going I

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am going to predict the contract holdout followed by a
trade two and a half years from now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Already, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Now, do it now, because is that, like, maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe they're gonna find the beasnees in the draft.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
They're going to have their dude and it'll all change.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
But are they going to be able to build in
the next two to three years?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
What's necessary for it to make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I don't know, man to pay who I think is
on his way to being an elite receiver is talent
skills as ball skills are incredible and what is the
wide receiver market two and a half years from now?
And on top of that, are we doing fifty a year?

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
No, we're not doing that. That's gonna change. On top
of that, it's just not him at the quarterback. It's
sure eye.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
To the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
And there's so many holes that they haven't been plugging
all of this time. Like you can you can build.
And I know they went heavy defense this draft, this
past draft, so there's time to see if that really
pays them. Next year is when we'll really see if
those defensive picks from this year really take hold. Right,

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a lot of young players on the defensive side of
the ball, but they really got to get a handle
of this thing. And it's you know, C. J. Stroud
was right there and they decided that they were going
to take Bryce Young B Young. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
As of late, it pays to be the second pick
in the draft, not the first, ask Caleb and Jayden right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
But even the history of Alabama quarterbacks outside of Jalen
Hurts who didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Finish right, Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
What does that even look like?

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I would love to actually dive into that a little
bit more with.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
You here, but let's dive into Steve first.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Let's dive into Steve I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
Uh more on this and the penalties that you bring up.
Let me see quickly. It's Falcon six, likings three, two
minutes to go in the first half. A quarterback that
Ephraim has talked about Justin Herbert looks like a quarterback. Yes,
six six, two thirty five. Bryce Young is five to
ten two oh five.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Maybe five ten. That's a generous five ten.

Speaker 6 (01:04:12):
Bryce Young was taken number one overall just a couple
of years ago in the same draft where the Colts
took Anthony Richardson number four overall, by the way, and
Tennessee drafted quarterback Will Levis early in round number two.
As for the penalties, allow me to focus on the
New York Giants because on the opening kick return at

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Dallas today, they had a holding call that ruined a
sixty seven yard runback. That, my friends, was a poor
tend of things to come. Because the Giants had six
penalties on the first drive of the game, tackle James
Hudson was benched. It got so bad eventually it was
a sixteen play drive took nearly nine minutes. They eked

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out a field goal for a three to nothing lead.
Nine penalties first half of the Giants they finished with
fourteen penalties for one hundred and sixty yards, wound up
losing in overtime, even though Russell Wilson threw for four
fifty Dallas forty to thirty seven. The final bare football
it was Philadelphia winning at KC twenty seventeen. In that game,

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the quarterbacks kept getting blitzed. To remember, famously, in the
Super Bowl win for the Eagles last season, Philly did
not blitz Patrick Mahomes at all and kept sacking him
time and time again. Today in Kansas City, they blitzed
Mahomes eleven times, almost thirty percent of the time he
dropped back to pass. The Chiefs defense meanwhile blitz Jalen

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Hurts even more than that, the equivalent of nearly two
thirds of the time he dropped back to pass, but
he combated it by getting the ball out so quickly
that according to nets Chench stats, it was the quickest
of Hurt's career average time two point one seconds and
the ball was out. And I mentioned last hour that
Daniel Jones in the Indianapolis game which wound up a

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win at the end against Denver had over three hundred
yards passing two total touchdowns. Just against the Blitz, Daniel
Jones had two hundred and sixty five yards passing sixteen
of twenty five in those situations against Denver twenty nine
twenty eight, the final on a forty five yard field
goal on the final play. Speaking of field goals, in

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that Philly win at Case twenty to seventeen, the final
Jake Elliott, who just about could not make a long
field goal last season, hit from fifty one and fifty
eight in a game where the Eagles won by three.
Arizona held on to beat Carolina twenty seven to twenty two.
In this game going on at Minnesota tonight, no touchdowns,
yet Minnesota mid second quarter did have a thirty three

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yard field goal that kept a seventeen play drive over
nine minutes worth just to get him on the board
with something. JJ McCarthy with one interception. He also botched
a fourth and short sneak early in the game. Six
to three. Falcons lead Bijon Robinson on eight carries, has
sixty six yards rushing. There's not much more to say

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about this game as for the Cincinnati contest, thirty one
twenty seven Bengals over Jacksonville on a touchdown with about
twenty seconds left. It was a quarterback sneak by Jake
Browning that won it. Then that ended a fifteen played,
ninety two yard drive. Browning with three total touchdowns three interceptions.
He was in the game because the star quarterback Joe
Burrow left after being sacked in the second quarter. Hobbled

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to the locker room with a toe injury, had an MRI.
He's in a walking boot. NFL media reporting that surgery
is possible because it could be a Grade three strain.

Speaker 7 (01:07:36):
Of the ligament in there.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
If so, if it's surgery, we're talking months plural that
Burrow would be missing this season. Wins for New England
and the Rams on the Road San Francisco as well.
Buffalo won thirty to ten at the Jets. At Detroit,
it was fifty two to twenty one Lions over Chicago
Jared Goff five touchdown passes. Seattle won at Pittsburgh thirty

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one seventeen Aaron Rodgers in the Lass, one touchdown, two interceptions.
The Steelers offense today twelve drives, thirteen first downs, and
at Baltimore, Lamar Jackson four td passes in a forty
one to seventeen win over the winless Cleveland Browns. UCLA
Football fired coach to Sean Foster. Virginia Tech fired coach
Brent Prye, whose team also started zero to three. The

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top three and the ap pole stayed the same. Ohio State,
Penn State, and LSU. In the ballgame at Boston tonight,
the Red Sox scored six in the first inning. It's
now six to four over the Yankees in the bottom
of the eighths. Toronto already won today and a shout
out to an offensive lineman in an NFL game today,
and this got brought up briefly on the Fox broadcast,
But in that game at Kansas City, a key interception

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that Mahomes threw is only one of the day that
went off. Travis Kelsey at the goal line and a
long run back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
For Philly was amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Who chased him down? But the young offensive lineman Josh Simmons,
and he did hit a max speed of eighteen point
three miles per hour. Wow, to make the tackle on
the sideline and prevent the touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Rather than moving.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Oh that's incredible. By the way, this is also incredible.
I want to go back to one of the first
sentences that you just uttered in this discussion, Steve, did
you say that Bryce Young is five to ten?

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
He is listed at five Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
So you don't even think maybe he might not even.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Be five to ten, kind of like Drew Brees for
most of his career was probably taller listed than he was.
That type of thing for the amount of batted down
passes that we saw over the years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
But I get just take it from from somebody who
lives and works in San Francisco. People look at Brock
Purdy and they're like, that guy's too small. He's listed
at three inches taller than Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I don't know if Brock is six to one. He's
listed at six to one.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
Drew Brees was listed at six foot yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Which he wasn't. But yeah for an arm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yeah, Brock probably isn't either. But if you think Brock
Purty is small, what is Bryce Young tiny?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
He's tiny?

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a tough one. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
The other thing that I want to do throw at you,
especially just off of what Steve was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Hey, is Daniel Jones?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Good man? I tell you what, Like my segment last week,
one man's trash is another man's treasure, right, goodness gracious,
he looks like a different quarter.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
Let me put it this way. The offense he's running
has yet to punt this season.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
He looks like a different quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
That'll hold up. Hold up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I know last week they had seven drives and seven scores.
I was not aware that the punter watched again today,
that is correct.

Speaker 7 (01:10:51):
There were five for five on field.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Goals week two. They haven't punted yet.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Apparently in the last twenty years that an old happened
to two different teams. Make it three down. The Colts
opening the season with back to back games with no punts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Good thing that the Colts first two games have been
at home.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Those would have been wasted plane tickets if they're taking
that guy with them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Look, what I'm saying is, whenever you have a quarterback
who can throw for three to sixteen no picks, only
sacked one time, and a running back to run for
one sixty five, Hey, man, that is that is tough
to deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I just listen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
I'm not going to tell you that Daniel Jones is
some sort of star that we didn't know about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
I will just say this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
My eyes are open to the possibility of you know,
whether this is and and Stafford is a bad example,
but maybe a darnold who it's like, get him out
of that situation, give him a different offensive line, a
different play caller. And I don't know if that could

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be great, but it looks like maybe it will be
something viable right now looks very viable.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah, he looked in full control.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
That's a good defense he played.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
He looks in full that's a great defense. He looks
in full control of the offense, the flow of at
the pacing of it, the decision making. Hey, if he
continues on, No, this has been two games, all right,
and I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
But the only time he had an absolutely full season,
he had a good season with the Giants winning. He
completed two thirds of his passes, he had like eight
hundred yards rushing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
It just seemed like it was a lot of pressure
in New York and they were very inept from top
down still in that building. And so he got from
under that. Because its similar to the quarterbacks, any of
the Jets quarterbacks, to believe, It's just it's very heavy
in New York and expectations can be draining, especially for

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a young player trying to figure it out at the
quarterback position. But you know, they got a big game
which they should be favored in in division against the
Titans next week, so they could start this thing three
and oh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Almost almost ready to say that they should start three
and oh, I know that that's that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
One's on the road though, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
On the road at Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Oh yeah, but still and then at the Rams after that,
at the Rams after that. Interesting, man, it's an interesting
club with the way that they've started. And and not
a whole lot of talk about Anthony Richardson anymore. So
I want to talk about Burrow also, especially off of
what Steve just said. So we're in the Fox Sports
Radio studios, and we'll do that coming up next with

(01:13:40):
e from Salama Mark with at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Okay, it's live in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
This has gotten I think a little bit buried during
our show because it's still not official and they haven't
fully figured out, but the tea leaves are everywhere that
Joe Burrow's injury is not just a multi week injury
from It might be a multi month injury. And at

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this stage of mid September, if you are looking at
an injury and the report is that it could sideline
him up to three months, we're actually talking about something
that I don't know for all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Intents and purposes. That's kind of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Could Jake Browning, who is a high level backup, could
he work them into the playoffs to Joe's return shirts possible?
A little far fetched for me to believe that in
the AFC with the power teams that they're going to
throw out there. But we got to get to this
because the report is from both Ian Rappaport and Tom

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Pilasero and others that what you're looking at is a
Grade three turf toe Grade one you might be able
to play next week. Grade two is probably something in
the neighborhood of what brock Party's dealing with. Game two
games maybe three grade three turf tow you need surgery,

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and that's what Burrow is potentially looking at. And this
changes the league, it changes the FC, it changes Fantasy football.
This is our first major cage rattler of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I would say, yeah it is, And I mean, you know,
no disrespect to Jake Browning, but you know, three picks
in a game that's not gonna get it done for you.
Baltimore's I mean, the Bengals are in such a fragile state,

(01:15:48):
I should say, and that division is a monster, and
having Jake Browning and be the guy, it's gonna be
a tall task. So if Burrow is if they do
play him on IR because of he has surgery, that's

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we'll go. It's gonna have to. You know, Jamar Chase
was Browning's favorite target. So my question to you is,
do you stick with Browning or do you make a
call to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
It's a great question.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
You know, we're sitting here watching this football game tonight,
and at a certain point they did pan over to
Kirk and I listen, I don't know all the inner
workings of what's going on there, and I know that
NFL fans get a little triggered sometimes when people start
feeling for players because.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
They're like, you're getting paid and shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
And do it, Like because Kirk is making a lot
of money to stand there and watch football games.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
That's true, But I do feel for the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
He has very little time left in his career, and
Kirk has been totally silent, which is kind of amazing,
to be honest with you. Somebody who's as accomplished in
this league as Kirk Cousins is, for him to just
basically watch his career just wind down to nothing is

(01:17:19):
fascinating to watch him do it silently, and maybe in
the back of his mind, he's waiting for this exact situation.
Maybe that's what he decided to do. I'm gonna sit here,
I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna see if something happens to Tua,
or if something happens to somebody that we're not even
thinking about, and then look at potential options there. If

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you're asking me, if I were the Bengals, would I
make that call?

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Absolutely? Now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
I don't know about the financial structure, of it all.
And I don't even think at this point Kirk would
command a first round draft pick.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
You know, but there's no Someone tell me what he's
doing there? Yeah, what's he doing in Atlanta? You don't
and I don't want to hear. Oh, you'll love having
a backup. You don't do that to people. I don't
believe that. I don't believe you put someone like that
over the shoulder of a young player. And I don't
believe you barry accomplished players as insurance policies when they

(01:18:25):
could be out there performing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Yeah, I think I know he wants to play. It
seems like it's a situation where the Bengals would need him.
I mean, you get away with that against Jacksonville, but
you know, moving forward, he's gonna be very few games

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you win throwing three picks, and so you know, they
face the Vikings, They've Brian Flores and the Vikings defense.
Next they face the Broncos defense, the Lions, the Packers,
the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Like, they're not gonna win those games.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
This is going to be not gonna win those games
a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Yeah, their schedule, I mean you just said it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
I mean just the next four weeks alone at Minnesota
at Denver home to Detroit at Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
My goodness, that is a gauntlet.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
You're gonna send Jake Browning out there to do that? Now,
let me just say this right here. It's a good
idea from you. I agree with it. They won't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
No, I don't think they will either. They won't do it.
I don't think they will.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
They're gonna stick Browning out there and then they'll get
what they get.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Yeah, it's just it's setting up to be another another
just regretful season for the Bengals. And even though they
flipped the script and they're two to zero, it could
this could fall off the rails extremely fast, which it

(01:20:05):
looks like you will.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
They kind of should be ohing too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it should be going.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Too easy for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Last week we've figured out a way to win these
two games even with major injuries, which is to be commended.
But is it sustainable? That's the question. Is it sustainable?
And I don't believe it is not. With Jake Brownie,
I agree with you. I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
It also begs a completely different question that's not about
the Bengals, but it's about Joe, and I personally hate
the phrase injury prone. I don't like blaming athletes for injury. However,
there is a conversation there. There's a conversation about the
injury history that is building for Joe Burrow. So we'll

(01:20:51):
get to that a little bit coming up next from
salam Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
End of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
We go on Week two in the National Football League,
the Falcons and Minnesota Vikings opening up second half play
as we speak with the Falcons up by three. Nine
to six is the score. We are live in the
Fox Sports Radio studios talking all of it out. A
lot of great games today, not a lot of upsets.

(01:21:18):
Things starting to take shape. I always like week two,
as I said, because that, to me is when you
really feel like you start to get a sense of
the identity of a team, the personality of a team,
who they are, what they can do. Now, the Cincinnati Bengals,
it appears, have just changed their identity and their personality

(01:21:39):
against their will. The sound, the drum beat, the staircase
that we're climbing right now is telling us that Joe
Burrow is going to miss a significant amount of time.
It's not for sure yet, but it's definitely going to
be at least a few weeks. Sounds like it might
be a few months. Joe might miss a good portion
of the season. I need from if that happens. That's

(01:22:01):
a third time already. That's a third time already in
his young career, that he will miss the majority of
a season. I never like this phrase, but I want
to know what you do with it? What do you
do with in football? The phrase injury prone?

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
It's a real phrase. I mean, it's a real thing.
And the reason it's like that and it's said like
that is because anyone can get hurt on any play. Sure,
that's why most contracts outside of quarterbacks aren't guaranteed. The

(01:22:44):
chance for career ending injury or season inding injury could
happen on every single play. The difference with being labeled
injury prone and not is it tends to happen to
you on any set play, any set play, any given time.

(01:23:06):
And so I think it's one of those situations where
guys can play their whole career and not have a
significant career ending or time ending injury. But then some guys,
for whatever reason, it's just on them and there's no

(01:23:27):
scientific explanation. It just happens. And so once you get
that label. The one thing I do know is once
you start having serious injuries, your body never fully gets
back one hundred percent. So the common thing that happens

(01:23:49):
most of the time is when you're coming back from injury,
your body learns how to overcompensate for the injury. What's say,
it's a knee are an achilles, So you put a
lot of pressure on the opposite leg, the opposite knee,
the opposite ankle, the opposite hip, and it kind of

(01:24:10):
throws things off. And even though when you get healthy,
you know your body's different and it'll never get back
to where it was prior, and it may and everybody's
bodies is different, that the makeup of an individual athlete's
body is completely different. And so once you start having
it over and over and over again, then you're like, oh, okay,

(01:24:31):
well you're injury prone. Because you are. It's not a
negative thing, it's what it is. It's what it is.
So case in point, if Dak Prescott ends up, God forbid,
and I never throw that, I never want to die.
I hate about it, So I don't even want to
I strike that from the record because you know, I
don't want to put that out there. But let's just say,

(01:24:53):
any quarterback who's been or any player who's had season
ending injury or it's been a long time on ir
or whatever that is, if it happens again this year,
then yes, you get that. Moniker.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
The other interesting thing to me about this one, and
you bring up Dak even though you got took.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
It from the record. Yes, but you bring up his name.
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
You're allowed to say the words Dak Prescott and I
say the words Joe Burrow. And to me, maybe this
isn't fair, But like I know, when an NFL team
goes in to its season, it probably needs to plan
for its left tackle.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
You might miss a game or two. Your edge rusher,
you might miss a few.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Your tight end, you're wide receiver, definitely, you're running backs.
But quarterback quarterback is the position that most franchises cannot
withstand injury.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
They just can't handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
It's why I mean to go look at the records
of NFL teams the last couple of years when a
backup quarterback is playing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
It's stunning.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
It's a stunningly bad record when the backup starts a game,
even those who say, well, we've got a high level backup.
High level backup is also known as very low level starter.
That's what that's called, right, That's Mac Jones, that's Jake Browning.
These are people who no one wants as their starting

(01:26:25):
quarterback anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
So what that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Means is is that I look around the league and
I see that position because you do take some hits, obviously,
but you take a lot fewer than just about every
other position on the field, and you can, and often
do you make it through, like seventeen games from your
quarterback is not an unreasonable hope or request. So I

(01:26:54):
do think it's even different when we're talking about a quarterback.
And yes, Dak has had some injury issues, and now
this is the third one for Joe Burrow, brock Purdy
had one not too long ago. We've talked about Kirk Cousins,
he toren ACL, Tom Brady toren ACL. But there are

(01:27:14):
also quarterbacks out there who I think went their entire career.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Without having one of these injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
So for a guy number one pick in the draft
and considered one of the top four or five qbs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
In the game to be dealing with this now for.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
The third time in what I think is a five
to six year career.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Andrew, Look, yeah, that's another that's a good one. Andrew, Yeah,
up and left.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
He was like, I can't take it anymore. Yeah, Andrew. Look,
he got back healthy, so he thought, and then he
wasn't and they didn't know what it was, and he
just couldn't take it anymore. The mental and physical toll.
And this is what a lot of people don't know about.
The mental and physical toll injuries and coming back from

(01:28:01):
injury takes on a player. It's unbelievable. It's unbelieve you
want to talk about fits of emotional depression and uncertainty.
It just is a world wind because you know your
window is very small. It's so limited doing this thing

(01:28:26):
that you love. And whenever you keep, for whatever reason,
missing that window, then it becomes a problem mentally. Like
it's a lot of guys go through counseling HM. When

(01:28:49):
you come back, you fight, you come back from for
an end from an injury and you feel in good
finally and then you get hurt again. It's devastating to
that player. It changes how they play because now they're
worried about the next one. And if you're playing football

(01:29:13):
and you're worried about getting hurt, you're not a very
good football player.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Football is one of the sports you have to play
with caution to the win, and it's hard to do
that if you've had one, two, three serious injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
What's the worst one you ever had?

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I tore my moniscus pretty bad, but I never had
a couple times, but I never missed a significant like
I had knee surgery and started eleven days later. Right like,
you know, I broke I broke two fingers on my

(01:29:54):
right hand, and then I shattered my knuckle on my
excuse me, yes, shattered my knuck on my left hand
at the you know, around the same time I started
to four I started fourteen games with two broken hands,
you know, So like my talerant for pain. Now, it's ridiculous,
doesn't make any sense. I don't even know when something's
really wrong with me, all right, Like I just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
You're conditioned.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
You know, I'm conditioned. I have a herniated disk in
my bag my shoulder. I tore my labors and never
got them fixed. Some days I can't raise my armor
I just don't know. But when I was playing the
only time I never missed a significant amount of time
like season ending injury. But I've had surgery a couple
times in the middle of the year and still, you know,

(01:30:42):
came back and played. I was an injury prone you
know what I mean. I never had one of those.
Now everybody's gonna have nix and bruises and get your
leg taped up, and like I had to cast on
my hands. Those aren't that. That doesn't put you in
the category of injury prone. Injury prone. In that category,
you're not available for your team for long periods for stretches,

(01:31:08):
and you know, I was thankful not to have stretches
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
I got one other question for you, and this one
is selfish. What do you say right now to someone
who has Joe Burrow as their fantasy quarterback?

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
I know this is rude. I know we're not supposed
to talk about me, and it's me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
It's me. What have I been saying to myself is oh god,
what on the flip side of that? My backup quarterback
is Jared Golf.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Okay, all right, you could do some things there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
I wish you I had them in the game today.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
You could do some things there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
It's safe to say that I lost that game with
Joe Burrow as my quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Yep, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
You know how you and I are both in too
many leagues.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah, so I got a good day for me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Joe Joe, Joe, Joe's my quarterback in two oh gosh,
in two of them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
And uh and uh and one of them?

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Is is that that two quarterback thing that I do?
You want to know who the other one is? You
want to know who my other cub is? Rock purty o?
How we doing? If that good? How we doing? You
want to know the hilarious thing. You want all the irony,
all the irony in one sentence. You want to know
who my backup because you have to carry a third.
If you're smart, you gotta have a backup. Guess what

(01:32:39):
the backup is? Matt Stafford.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
He's my only healthy one, and he.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Was the one we spent all August thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Was.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
I hit away?

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
So stupid? What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
What are we doing in our lives? I really don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Brilliant lead time, Oh god, it's so dupe.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Hey, is it? Me, or is this game hard to watch?

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of kicking going on and
look and sometimes there's a holder and then other times
it's just one dude who kids really high in the air.
But other than that, that's what's going on in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Producer Patrick is a die hard Viking Vikings fan and
I just caught him falling asleep. He almost fell out
of his chip.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
I told him before the game, and to his credit,
he agreed with me. He didn't a homer take me.
I'm like, I don't know about your dudes, man. I
know they won last week, but I don't know about
your dudes, and I don't really like tonight for them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
And there's a long way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
This actually is right about the time they started playing
football on Monday night. About halfway through the third quarter.
They woke up and maybe they will hear too. But
sleep is the right word. It's been a lot of
it here so far into Viking.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Yeah, it's not not very not very entertaining.

Speaker 6 (01:34:05):
All it takes as a touchdown all of a sudden
they're back in it, though, guys, So let's hope and see.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Maybe they should trade for Kirk cousins.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Oh please think about that.

Speaker 7 (01:34:14):
Oh please, No, I don't want to beg but maybe
he would win this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Game by you like that? I don't like that right now?

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
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(01:35:08):
any NFL team now that we've watched them twice.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
That you didn't have before the season?

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Well, yeah, I mean, we'll talk to me the Kansas
City Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Well, but see here's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
I think that you and I both thought, and I
remember predicting in fact, they're not gonna win the division.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Yeah, but I didn't think they would start like this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
What it's like this?

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
This is different to oh and to Patrick Mahomes never
been oning to to start a season, So I didn't
foreshadow or foresee this happening like this. I knew they would.
I actually thought it would be a bounce back year
for them offensively. Defensively, they carried a mantle for them

(01:36:01):
last year, had a top five defense, which Patrick Mahomes needed.
And remember he didn't even make the Pro Bowl because
his numbers were extremely pedestrian, although they made it to
the Super Bowl. But I just didn't expect it to
be like this. I the Colts and Daniel Jones did

(01:36:22):
not see this coming one of them at all. Uh.
But that's the two glaring ones that that stick out
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Yeah, Like, I mean, the Bills are good, we had
that nailed it, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
I didn't think the Cowboys would be you know, well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
What are they?

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
I mean they kind of I don't know, we don't
know what they are right right, but like flashy and and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
What's the right word, just.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
We not buttoned up rights.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
They're fast food. They're fast food. You go there sometimes
it's really.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Fun and then you come home and you're like, oh
my god, I feel like crap.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
That's watching What is it the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Yeah, that's one of mine. But you go ahead, what
do you see?

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
You you speak on them because I've been speaking, So
you speak on them, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Well, I told you, and I'm gonna call myself out
right here. I think it was three weeks before the
season and and and I'm not someone that falls for
the preseason trap. I don't get excited by oh he
looked good and he didn't look good. But something about
the injury situation they were facing, something about just everything

(01:37:53):
that I was watching throughout the month of August looked
out of sync. So I didn't think they were a
bad team, but I'm like, ah, that feel like they're
going to start slow to me, and my god, they
have not. And I definitely still thought Detroit was the
class of the division. And I'm not one hundred percent

(01:38:15):
off of that, but I have my doubts. Now Green
Bay has not left their home confines yet. That's important
to me. They will obviously, though the opponents over the
next few weeks are not the most daunting things ever.
I know, in a couple of weeks they will play
right here in front of us with the Micah Parsons

(01:38:35):
Bowl two weeks from tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
It's going to be the Packers and the Cowboys. That'll
be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
But to take care of those two opponents right out
of the gate, Detroit and Washington, and do so as
convincingly as they did not only tells me that team
is in sync and is very good. But I'm really
hearing all of the roster construction conversations out and about
right now about Green Bay because I think that they're

(01:39:04):
not just ready to play right now, They're going to
be ready to play for a long time. They have
drafted well, they have positioned themselves financially well, they have
paid Jordan Love, and they ephrom They are one of,
if not the best team out there, I guess, along
with the Ravens and Bills, who have not fallen for

(01:39:27):
this stupid thirty to forty million dollar receiver thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
And I think you're seeing it, That's what I think
you're seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Well, yeah, because they draft well, they got a bunch
of young, talented receivers and a young quarterback, and they
allow them to grow together. They allowed them to, you know,
figure it out, and it's it's doing wonders for their chemistry,
their team. They went out and made a brilliant move

(01:39:55):
right before the season getting Michael Parsons. That defense has
different energy to it. And I started this year off
saying I'm not sure about Jordan Love. The jury still out, yep,
and he's calling them back in. I can tell you
that just his first two weeks, I'm pleasantly surprised by

(01:40:17):
his command of the offense, his accuracy, and they're just
as as a team. They're playing extremely well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
They have a lot of answers at a lot of
key positions right now, That's what I see, and they
are just kind of in a sound spot in terms
of how they can attack that for the next few years.
Jacobs has been another one of those running backs that
you talked about last year that somebody didn't want and

(01:40:50):
then ended up being just a complete bargain for the
team where he arrived. It is right next to Derrick
Henry and last year is Joe Mixon, and and and
there were a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
There are a lot of them out and about throughout
the league.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Who somebody, you know, Saquon Barkley being the headliner, somebody
didn't really want to pay them. They let him go
and they turned that other team into a really good team.
And so I just see them as having a lot
of answers right now, and they're impressive. I'll give you
one more team though, that's on the other side of
the ledger and they won today.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
But I'm super underwhelmed by the New England Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Oh yeah, and that'll sound silly because you're like, Mark,
what did you expected something from the New England Patriots.
I did. I did. I expected them to be well coached.
I think Drake May is a good young player, and
I know, boy he helped all your fantasy teams today.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
He did a really good job.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
But off of that loss that they had last week,
which I did not think was very good, you then
had the Miami Dolphins, who weren't he be able to
run a play against the Colts come out and just.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
Move the ball all over the field on you. I
know that they were home.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
The Patriots were lucky to get out of this one,
and with Vrabel as their coach, I'm having a hard
time understanding why their defense looks the way they do.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
They look awful.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Yeah, it looks like they're trying to figure it out.
The good thing about them is they're one and one
and so you really just gotta They're really trying to
figure it out. The biggest thing is, well, we didn't
expect them to be anything, but they just don't seem

(01:42:37):
I don't know, it's hard to explain. I put them
in the same category as Carolina and the Miami Dolphins.
They just have more talent and more expensive. They're more
expensive with none of the results.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
It's just difficult to spend that level of money and
watch that roll out onto the field every week. It
will be like, I don't know, under paying Steve de
Seger for him being the best in the business.

Speaker 7 (01:43:10):
Wit paying what guys? There's a game going on.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
But if not, they don't stop lying to the people.

Speaker 6 (01:43:16):
No touchdowns yet. Falcons and Vikings six for six on
field goals combine. They're about to start the fourth quarter.
It's twelve six Atlanta leading. There is one offensive star
in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Robs University at Sexas.

Speaker 7 (01:43:29):
I'm sorry, what was it? What was the first name?

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Again? University at sex.

Speaker 7 (01:43:33):
Okay, so he's.

Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
Back to Bijon now. They went through the whole thing
on the broadcast tonight. Apparently he likes Bijon better, not
the relative, and he whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:43:43):
Make up your money?

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Yeah, what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
B Jon Robinson with fifteen carries one hundred and nineteen
yards rushing for the Falcons. They only have about one
hundred yards of offense outside of him. And again, just
starting the fourth quarter at Minnesota, Falcons up twelve to six.
Philadelphia won at Kansas City twenty to seventeen. The Philadelphia
offense didn't too much, but they're two and zero now
and the Chiefs are zero to two. In fact, AP

(01:44:07):
looked it up. What's the winning percentage for a team
that did with the Eagles offense today in this century?
When your team averages only three point seven yards per
play or less, and you have no special teams touchdowns
in the game and no defensive touchdowns in the game,
your winning percentage is one forty five. And yet Philadelphia

(01:44:29):
got a fifty one yard field goal from Jake Elliott,
a fifty eight yard field goal from him, and they
got the interception off of Travis Kelcey at the goal
line to prevent a score, and Philly wins by three,
twenty to seventeen. Indianapolis won a forty five yard field
goal on the final play defeated Denver twenty nine to
twenty eight. The Broncos had missed a forty two yard

(01:44:52):
field goal attempt with about three minutes left. Arizona led
Carolina twenty seven to three late in the third quarter.
Then the Panther Bryce Young threw three short touchdown passes,
but Carolina did miss a couple of two point tries
twenty seven to twenty two. Arizona the final. A reminder,
we have two games on Monday schedule, Tampa Bay at
Houston and then at ten pm Eastern time, it's the

(01:45:15):
Chargers at Las Vegas. Crazy game at Dallas today and
overtime win for the Cowboys forty to thirty seven over
the Giants. Brandon Aubrey tied it with a sixty four
yard field goal at the end of regulation. Baltimore sent
the Browns to zero to two forty one seventeen to
the final. Four touchdown passes for Lamar Jackson, and he
throws the downfield ball all four of his touchdown passes today.

(01:45:37):
We're targeting a receiver at least ten yards downfield. In fact,
if you look it up last year plus this year,
Lamar Jackson's thrown thirty two touchdown passes over ten air yards.
That's way more than anybody else on the quarterback list.
Cam Ward did not win at Tennessee. However, he did
have an amazing play. The Rams won the game thirty

(01:45:59):
three nineteen, but the number one overall selection cam Ward.

Speaker 7 (01:46:03):
If you saw the scramble and go this way, go.

Speaker 6 (01:46:06):
That way and scramble a little more and then throw
it to the other side of the field touchdown. In
the box score, it's a nine yard TD. They looked
it up. You know, with next gen stats they can
get all of this. He actually threw the ball over
forty yards in the air from one side of the
field to the end zone in the other side of
the field nine yard touchdown. By the way, the Rams

(01:46:27):
early in that game got a forty five yard TD
run from Pukinakua, the wide receiver on a fourth and one.
Detroit fifty two to twenty one over Chicago. Jared Goff
with five touchdown passes. San Francisco and New England each
one on the road Seattle and Buffalo got road wins.
Cincinnati on a late quarterback sneak by Jake Browning beat
Jacksonville thirty one twenty seven. An injury though to the

(01:46:50):
toe of Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. He left after being
sacked in the second quarter and hobbled to the locker room.
NFL Network reporting tonight that the fear is that Burrow
suffered a Grade three turf toe injury. If it's Grade three,
it would require surgery, he'd be out at least three months.
He's likely facing a multi week absence even if they

(01:47:11):
go with the non surgical options. He is still evaluating
his options. Baseball's game at Boston tonight went to the
Red Sox six' four over The yankees with six runs
in the first. Inning toronto won Earlier dodgers And padres each.
Winners seattle won its ninth game in a row Cal
rawley with his fifty fourth homer of the year eleven
two over The, angels And houston. Lost The Seattle mariners

(01:47:33):
are alone in first in The Al, west a game
ahead Of. Houston texas. Loss texas is three. Back cleveland
won its fourth in a. ROW wnba playoff openers To
minnesota To. Atlanta New york won in, overtime But Breonna
stewart left late with a knee, injury and there's a
late night playoff. Game vegas at home is up twenty
nine seventeen Over seattle mid second, quarter and, Guys germany

(01:47:56):
took The Men's EuroBasket, final Beating turkey TOURNAMENT Mvp i'm
a shrewder today in the gold medal game sixteen points twelve.
Assists grease won the, bronze Edging Finland giannis A tenakumpo
thirty points seventeen. Rebounds he said this bronze medal for
his country today was one of the greatest accomplishments of his.

Speaker 7 (01:48:14):
Career back to.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
You, interesting, hey, guys this football game keeps getting. Worse
do YOU i Like, steve do you want to JUST
i don't. Know he talks more, like this is just
everyone's everyone's going.

Speaker 7 (01:48:26):
Backwards, well can we just put it this?

Speaker 6 (01:48:30):
Way maybe eight, drives eight first downs for The minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
Offense, Boy but, anyway sock fumble FROM jj McCarthy and
The falcons pick it up basically in field goal range.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
And now are working their way out of.

Speaker 6 (01:48:43):
It and he already had thrown an, interception and he
already had botched the fourth and one sneak earlier in the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Game, yeah, Yeah, no he looks like A he looks
like a rookie, tonight no. Question and Then steve great
stuff tonight is always thank you very, much. Excellent and
then heat from the other thing That steve just said
that really kind of this popped a new thought in my,
head and it's not a good one because The eagles
are the Defending Super bowl, champs but you know who

(01:49:09):
they might be this year based on what we've seen so, far.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
This Year's Kansas.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
City. Jah, Yeah i'll tell you. This have you noticed
What i'm TALKING i know exactly what you're talking, about
And i'm going to tell you. This this thing is
about to get ugly because we already know they have
a temperamental wide. Receiver yes they, Do AND i Mean
Jayler hurts doesn't have a touchdown pass in two.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Games i've watched a lot of their, games AND i
don't even remember him throwing a, pass let alone having
a touchdown. PASS i, Mean i'm half, kidding but he
threw for one hundred one yards.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Today that's not.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
It's not gonna, work, Right and so Now steve was
bringing us into the analytics of tonight's. Win to take
anything away from, Them they led most of the, way
but you get an interception at the goal, line you
get field goals from like miles, away and you win
a three point game on the.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Road, now go back to a week and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Ago what's the first thing that pops into your mind
about the end of that football?

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Game Ceedee lamb dropped the balls.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Balls, yeah And dallas had, them they had him had
them And Ceedee lamb dropped a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Footballs and so WHEN i look at The eagles right,
now it's only a two game, sample but these two,
wins they feel very much Like chiefs wins from last.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
Year, yeah AND i just, look so much was made
from Aj brown reading his selp help books the. WELL i,
mean five catches twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Yards one catch last week for one d eight.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
Yards so that's two, games six catches thirty five. Yards
how are we doing and they're two and. Zero it's
not gonna. Matter they were winning last year and that's
when the uproar. Happened remember they won a game when
he passed for eighty eight yards or something like. That,
yep in a passing, League god forbid anything happen to

(01:51:22):
Say Kwan barkley. BOY i mean they so they're so
reliant as they should be on him because he is
such a dynamic. Player but this doesn't look. Good The
Philadelphia eagles don't look like Defending Super bowl. Champions and

(01:51:48):
if they can't get this offensive thing, together it's gonna Be,
look the defense is stepping up and they're doing what
they're supposed to, do and on and so, forth but.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
You, know.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
It's it doesn't look. Good i'm not blown away with
confidence that they are going to be just steam rolling right,
uh you, know steam rolling THE.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Nfc their next three weeks are all against playoff teams
from last. Year and And i'll tell you this right,
NOW i don't even necessarily know which or how many
of them they're.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Not they're not going five and o this. Year they're
not getting through these next three.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Unscathed, No they're home to The, rams then they go
To Tampa, bay and then they're home to The. Broncos
and and What i'm looking at From philadelphia right now is.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Solid it's solid in.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Ways but you're right it's just if we want to
have a real, conversation or if they, do it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Enough that's that's just they're not divers Enof.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
No dissension incoming for.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Sure for, sure but not here.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Incoming will be Planking spaniard, shortly but we're not done.
Yet with a From. Salam I'm Mark. Wheelard this Is
Fox Sports. Radio it's The Fox Sports Radio. Studios nine
plus minutes to go in the, Game falcons by.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
Nine can't be over fast.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
Enough oh my, God BUT i tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
What on that little hig that little commercial breakdowns gonna
bring it. UP i was gonna bring it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
UP i was gonna bring it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Up i'm, like, oh they just they just profiled a
little game called the nineteen ninety EIGHT Nfc Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
Game what do you know about that? Game IF i.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
Have a game ball at. HOME i got the game
ball that game BECAUSE i was a rookie AND i
was playing against the likes Of John randall and and
all those, guys and little three year Old patrick was
sitting at home watching me dismantled his Beloved Minnesota.

Speaker 7 (01:54:03):
VIKINGS i had a twinkle in my eye watching that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Too see you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
From thirty to twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
Seven it's a great. Game, man that was a great.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Game his only missed field goal of the of the
whole two.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Years he had missed in two. Years.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
Unbelievable when it is, written what do you remember from that? Game,
like what's the first thing that comes to your? Mind the?

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Quiet it was very. Quiet, yeah Because minnesota had the loudest.
Stadium they may or may not have been pumping crowd
noise into the stadium may or may not allegedly, Yep
and so you. COULDN'T i remember we practiced all. Week
we had a silent count and there was no verbal

(01:54:54):
cadence at. All and crazy, enough they jumped off sides
of it'll be three or four times in that, game
trying to time us. Up, yeah but when we made
that kick to win that, game you could hear a
pin drop m. Silent, yeah the, best the best sound

(01:55:17):
on the Planet earth is others silence and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Despair, well you know who's feeling a lot of that right.
NOW i just want to give a shout out to
the roller. Coaster that's HOW i want to end the
show to NOT i want to shout out the roller.
Coaster and here's WHAT i mean by. That, okay here's
the roller, coaster my example of it. TODAY i don't
know if you do this, too because we all play

(01:55:43):
too many things in all these games and fantasy and
this that the.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Other do you Play survivor?

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
Pools oh, yeah well, no, no, NO i don't do
The savior.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Balls, yeah well it's then yeah or. Whatever SO i
try to be.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
SMART i tried to be fancy today Because i'm, like,
oh all of you people picking The.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
Ravens you you think it's that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Easy, Huh, Well i'm gonna be ready just in case
a crazy upset.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
Happens i'm not picking The.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Ravens i'm picking The Dallas cowboys BECAUSE i know WHAT
i saw from The New York, giants and that's not
a football team that's ready to win a football.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Game So i'm picking The Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
Cowboy AND i want to tell you SOMETHING i learned
my lesson today and the rollercoaster of dealing With, Okay
i'm out, Wait i'm back. In, okay, fine we'll try
again next. Year hold on a, Second i'm. Back are

(01:56:46):
you kidding, Me Malik? Neighbors what are you? Doing hold
on a? Second are you allowed to kick a sixty
four yard field goal at the, buzzer and then over
time WHERE i think there were five possessions in ten,
minutes only to come out with as time, expires a cowboy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
Win that's a roller.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
COASTER i want to shout out anybody who Drafted Jamar
chase number one overall and watched him do, nothing followed
by doing, everything only to then lose his quarterback and
now sit here and think about what might be the
rest of the. Year any of you who Drafted christian

(01:57:30):
McCaffrey in the first round and dealt with three days
of oh my, god his career is, over only to
find out, actually everything for the moment seems. Fine AND
i could do, this as you, know with a bunch
of other. Players the roller coaster in THE nfl is freaking.

(01:57:52):
Undefeated AND i don't know about. YOU i love getting
to sit here with you for three hours when kind
of the curtain starts to, fall because it's kind of
meditative because the whole up and down journey of where
we've been starting at ten Am pacific in the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Morning, dude it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
Lot it is a.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
Lot oh. Man THE nfl love, it good, LORD i
love it so, yeah, MAN i live to fight another.
DAY i did a dumb thing AND i got away with.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
It, well let's be, better.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
Like next, time picked The. Lions if you didn't want
to pick The, ravens, right like what AM i? Doing don't.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Don't don't go out on the limb like.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
That well the good news is is all those people
who picked The, ravens they can't pick The ravens. Anymore
but your boy, Can, yes yes you. CAN i still
got The. Ravens SO i don't. Know, maybe, uh Maybe
i'm playing chess and they're playing. Checkers we'll find out and,
uh you, know eleven weeks or something like. That but, anyway, yeah, so,

(01:59:08):
Uh beijeon Or, beijeon whatever you want to call, him
looks pretty good. TONIGHT i think The falcons waited a
little bit too long to kind of lean on. Him
but coming out of this experience that we're, WATCHING i
think that's another one THAT i feel like you AND
i might have gotten, right which is that whatever happened
with The vikings last, year.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
That magic dust is.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Gone And i'm not saying they should have done something
different at the quarterback. Position they were kind of pot committed,
already but this is Going this is gonna be a tough.
Year this is gonna be a tough. Year their quarterback is,
learning and that's probably a kind word so.

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
Far that is very kind of. You it's just you,
know it's not the same and it's going to take,
time but they're. In they're all in, Right like they
may squeak this out maybe, not but you just got
to learn from. It these are all of the things
he missed last, year so you, know he started from

(02:00:09):
scratch to figure this thing. Out and, look they're one
and zero at the end of. It the worst they
can be is one and, one.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Which looks likely under six minutes to go down two. Scores,
yeah and they don't have the. Ball but other than,
that sure they're allowed to. WIN i, mean you AND
i got off the air last week and we're, like,
WHOA i think The ravens are going. Undefeated, yeah and
then you called me like ten minutes, later was how was?

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
That what just? Happened?

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
Oh? Man what a? Right? Already all, right, man good,
night and we're talking next. Week.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
Yep all right for you FROM, Slim I'm Mark, wheeler
stay right where you are For plank And.

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
Span you On Fox Sports. Radio