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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ooh, how about the second half of the NFL season?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Should we do the second half of the NFL season?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Can we take a minute to be like, how the
hell is it already the second half of the NFL season?
But yeah, here we are Week ten National Football League.
Things are starting to take some shape and we're here
to talk it all out with a real good looking
Sunday night football game that's about to get started broadcasting
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. So glad you're

(00:33):
with us. Keep this thought in mind as we start.
It's not just if you do things, sometimes it's the
way you do things right, Like do you believe in
the tone?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
This is why text messaging.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Can be a little bit difficult sometimes you can't feel
the tone behind it. And listen from first off, good evening,
how's my guy doing to night?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm good. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm doing so good, man, energetic, ready to roll. And
I know you're gonna agree with me on that because
we've talked stuff out like this through the years. And
you're a guy who used to banging his head up
against the opposition all the plays of the game. You're
a trenches guy, and so you know that the physicality
of this sport is undefeated. So Jackson Dart, I love

(01:19):
the way you play. I love who you are. I
love your flair, I love your arm I love the
way that you can run. I love the life that
you have injected into the New York Giants. My man,
you're not going to last. So figure it out. We've
got to figure it out. Every running quarterback has to
figure it out, right, And you know, Jayden Daniels had

(01:41):
a little bit of injury stuff last year. Now this
year's having a whole lot more. There's the famous stories
RG three. We can keep doing this hole's Lamar Jackson
done it so long, I don't know, but he's pretty
smart about it. That's the thing you gotta find. You
gotta find that little spot where you can still be
you and do what you do and bring these great

(02:04):
things to the table. But you gotta find a way
to not end up in the middle of the field
getting fallen on by two hundred and seventy pound demons
every single week.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Because it's just it's just not going to last.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
And the man who's already in that blue tent with
a concussion situation for the second time already in his
young career.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, you got to be able to prepare yourself and
protect yourself. He's fiery. I love the way he plays.
But most quarterbacks who come in and are athletic dual quarterbacks,
they learn a hard lesson. And you know, I don't

(02:47):
know if he's played baseball, but I think Russell when
he came in, he was proficient and sliding because of
his baseball background, didn't take a lot of unnecessary hits.
But Jack in Dart is one of those leaders. He's
going to lead with his actions and not with his word.
Well with his words as well, but his actions. So,

(03:09):
I mean, not many quarterbacks are running around with with
with face paint on just fyi.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
So he's not what you would call your typical quarterback
in terms of his energy and what he brings to
a team. But he is definitely fiery and and and
is all in.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean, he's changed a flagship franchise. This is New York,
New York. You can feel it, you can see it.
But they had a football game today and then that
football game immediately dissipated when Russell Wilson walked in and
tried to play football again. By the way, I have

(03:53):
never seen You're on that old Annie Murphy film when
he walks into the room and the juke box stops
bird at you know, new sheriff in town and his
name is Reggie him.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
This is an old Eddie Murphy flake.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I'm sure that the younger people listening in the other
room have no idea what I'm twenty eight hours thank you.
That's what happens when Russell Wilson walks into a football game.
I had never seen somebody have this kind of an
effect on his teammates, right. The whole vibe is just

(04:28):
like dog, you are a pin in a balloon. It's unbelievable.
And the game was completely in hand and then poof,
it was gone in an instant. And give the Bears
credit for that, but my goodness, the imprint that Jackson
Dart as a rookie already has on this franchise.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Is so very clear. So how do you keep him healthy?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
How do you What would you say to a guy
if this was your QB and you're like, you're our
team and I love your passion, I love your talent,
but how do we do this. How do you coach
this out of a guy.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
It's difficult because that's who he is, and for New
York they need him to be like that.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
It's easy for us to sit up here and say, hey,
when you look at them and not having Scatterbul and
not having neighbors, they don't have a lot of spark offensively,
and so you know, him and Scatterbul had something going
they they you know, he didn't have to be like

(05:47):
that because he had a battering ram. And so when
you lose the caliber of players that they've lost on
the offensive side, you're kind of stuck with Okay, I
gotta do it all. And that's what it feels like.
And he's not wrong, right, He's not wrong yep. So

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you know, trying to coach that out of him and
he understands and sees as a young player what it's
going to take for him to get his team where
they need to be.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I mean, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Mad at that, No, I get it. And maybe that's
the wrong phrase. I don't want to coach it out
of him, but you got to coach into him the
way to do that successfully. I get that. This is
a really tough sort of needle to thread here. But
you got to find a way to be able to
stay on the field. And I think that this is

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always a confusing subject for fans because we look at
injuries and we're just like, well, that's.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Bad luck, and that's kind of it is.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
But I've also you hear from players and coaches all
the time the old phrase the best ability is availability,
and then you'll from coaches like, yes, this player needs
to learn how to keep himself healthy on the field.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
And it's not just quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think that there are running backs and wide receivers
who have mastered the art.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It doesn't mean that you're safe.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
All the time, but when you have a little bit
of a choice, find a way to not put yourself
in a spot where you're going to get your belt
rung or you're going to take that hit.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
It's easier to say. It's very easy to say, I guess,
especially when you don't have the pieces around you to
keep you, you know, essentially from running into a brick wall.
Like when you when you have to get have something

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and you put the onus on yourself. I get that.
I understand that, Like he's like, I gotta do it.
It's got to be me and when he got hurt.
You know, they were in the red zone heading into
the end zone and he got hit sandwiched, the ball
popped out, he fumbled and they landed on top of him.

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But that was a play that they needed to have
at the time, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
And so it's hard to coach out our our.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
If he had Saquon Barkley in the backfield, if he
had neighbors on the outside and another player, another wide receiver,
then you can say, hey, you don't have to do
this whole thing yourself.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Let's get to ball the ball to these guys. Let them.
It's just not there. It's not there.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
And you know I don't I'm trying to hold and
watch what I say because that's one of my.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Three things, is this topic.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
We don't want to ruin that.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm trying to dare ruin that.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I'm trying to skirt around you know how I'm because
I don't want to repeat myself. So I'm trying to
save some gold for us.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well again, yeah, you know the people who are with us. Now,
how many of amer Cans still be here.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
The day we we we we have retention here, No.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I know I know, I know we got a feel
you out there that that you nut jobs that just
hang with us. I love you so much for it.
But no, I like, I get it. I get it.
I please don't mistake me. I'm not trying to make
this sound easy. But like I was struck. Years ago,
somebody who used to coach in the league was telling
me the story of Isaac Bruce and Tory Hope and

(09:47):
and and he used to coach wide receivers, and he goes,
I want to watch I want you to watch them
when they play.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
This is you know what years was this for the
for the Rams?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, twenty five years ago in two thousands, Isaac Bruce
and Tory Holt had a gift of like, we're going
to catch the ball when we get to that spot
where it's time to be making contact with a safety,
instead of trying to juke and maybe push this that
we dive forward directly at the legs of the tackler

(10:21):
and it just takes their juice out of them. You
might still have contact and whatnot, but A you ensure
that you're falling forward, and B you ensure that you're
not going to get clocked. You're not going to get,
you know, a hospital situation, and they were very very
effective with it. And I think Lamar Jackson is very

(10:42):
good at it. Russell Wilson for years we make fun
of him in this game, but years ago with Seattle,
he was very good at this. And so I do
think that there is an intricate little way to go
about doing it. I understand, when you're desperate and you
don't have a lot around you, you do it. And
that guy deserves all the credit in the world. Has
put so much life into the organization. But for those

(11:04):
reasons on a team that is now, boy are they
two and eight?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Is that where we're sitting?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, be kind of cool if he could play for
a few years, you know. And so that that's what
I look at at a guy who has that moxie
and he's gonna make that decision to put his body
on the line every time.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I just think he's going to.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Get him in trouble. He's gonna get him in trouble
a lot. Yeah, you're not wrong, You're you're not. It's
just it's the cards. They're deuilt right now, and and
boy do they need him and his energy. They really do.
It's a completely different team when when he's out there.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yep, yep, it's sure is it? Sure is?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
By the way, I mean, sort of larger issue on
this whole thing is that is that a conversation that
that happened for offensive players, hell for defensive players. I
remember listening one time to Larry Fitzgerald talk about it.
This might sound a little bit weird in the age

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of all of the concussion stuff, but that Larry would
would go up to some of the corners and safeties
on the other team before the game and say, please
get me high, don't get me low. Because what he
meant by that was like, you know, I can handle
things that might be up around the shoulders.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Even if you were able to clip my head a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Even if I get that concussion, that's probably a week,
maybe two. I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm making light.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Of it, I'm not. But you get it.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Those injuries down around the lower leg, those are career threatening.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And so I just think, as.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
A fan, I'd love to know how much discussion there
is about how to go about staying healthy out there
on the field.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I don't think it's not as much as you would think.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Guys are professional now, rules have dictated.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Now.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
That was back in the wild wild West, where you
could just annihilate somebody, hit them anywhere the whole body
was open. Now you can't hit you know, it's essentially
you know, midchest to the top of the kneecaps is
the target zone. And guys aren't. They're told not to

(13:40):
hit high now because of you know, we would rather
have you know, a brain injury or calf injury, you know,
you know what I mean, Like I get what Larry
was saying, which you know, almost backfire. Remember was it
the Super Bowl or was the playoff game where Kurt

(14:01):
Warner threw it high in the end zone and Larry
got hit and I think he broke his jaw remember that.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
So football is one of those sports where you can
want to or want an opponent to attack you a
certain way, but you can't regulate that.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
No regulated, the action.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Is going to dictate how someone gets hit and when
and where. It's just so it's too fast. It's even
faster now and it was back then. So you know,
good luck, good luck.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
No, that's fair, that's fair, all right, good luck to us.
Because off we go here into the night. Yeah, from
talking about our three things, our top three observations, will
do that in forty five minutes. At the top of
next hour, we will set the table for the Sunday
night football game that is just about to get started.
And do you all hear those footsteps? Do you hear

(15:03):
them the same way we hear them. This show's been
trying to tell you for three weeks that these footsteps
were coming, and they're here, and we wonder if you
all hear.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Them with us, because here they come.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
And we'll tell you exactly which team we're talking about
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one of the funnier dynamics that I see in professional
sports is football in LA. The Chargers are just about

(16:44):
to kick off in.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
A road game.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Everybody gets your air quotes together. Home game. Whose house?
Not the two teams that play there. It's not their house.
It's not their house, and especially not their house when

(17:07):
a big brand comes into town, like the Pittsburgh Steelers,
and they just floushed around of the crowd a little bit.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
My word, A lot of yellow in there, black and yellow.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
A lot of.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Exclusively almost so anyway, I mean, I know you got
your San Diego roots, I got some San Diego background
and I still to this day, I'm just not really,
I'm not really with this. This whole Charger's in l
a thing.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, it's tough because I know how beloved they were
in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, you know, so just to.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know, it sucked that they couldn't get what they
needed from San Diego in terms of you know, the
facility and.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
In the support. Yeah, didn't try though. Also, I want
to make sure that gets made real clear. Dean Spanos
did a really good job of putting proposals out that
he knew had no chance of passing or being supported.
There's more than one way to get support, and Dean
made sure that he did it in a way that

(18:23):
would not get support, so that he would have what
he needed legally to leave. And he did, and he did,
and he did. I like, you know, we don't need
to go too far off on a tangent. I don't
really understand relocation in sports. There are situations maybe here
or there where it might be the right thing or

(18:47):
necessary or whatever, But ninety five percent of the relocations
that I've seen since I've been alive are complete money
grabs by owner who are willfully messing with things to
create a scenario where people won't come to the game
and then going, look, we're not supported. It's like, yeah, yeah,

(19:11):
if your bathrooms are flooded and you have four concession
stands for sixty thousand people, Yeah, yeah, that's unpleasant. That's unpleasant.
So don't tell me you're not supported. I've watched the
Chargers do it. The most recent one that happened right
here in my backyard was the biggest joke of them all.
And it's what the Oakland A's are in the process

(19:31):
of putting together. And it's just it's just it's wrong.
It's just flat out wrong. It's not the way to
do it. It's not the way it should be done.
And I don't I don't like that the owners have
that kind of autonomy. I really don't. Yeah, it's a well,
they moved, they wanted a big market. They're in a
big market.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
How you survive in that market there's a completely different,
you know, question and.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Answer completely completely and no shock. They did not necessarily
get even the dollars that they forget the support.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
They did not even.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Get the dollars that they thought they were going to
get in a move like this. But anyway, enough soap
box and what do you see in this football game tonight?
I think that this is of all the things they
just said about the Chargers, I will say from a
football perspective, I think this is a good spot for them,
a good matchup for them. I think they're the better
football team, and I like them to win this game.
And I think the number went off somewhere around two

(20:30):
and a half. I like the Chargers in this game.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah, you know, I would come in and say that
as well. But watching today, right, good luck trying to
pick these games and the handicap these games, and is
you know, good luck?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
What surprised you the most today?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think the Bills.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, I think that's what I have to be the
Bill sir.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, Like that was embarrassing performance. It's unbelievable, just a wild,
wild performance. And the more you watch, the more embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
And he became.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, although I do think, like I don't know
what the hell was going on in the first half,
but in the second half that started to look like okay,
And every time they were like in position to flip
the momentum, they would drop the football. They just kept
dropping the football. Josh Allen included. They just kept dropping

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the football, so, you know, rainy day turnovers and they
got blown out by a bad football team.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Weird weird day. But this is decidedly Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Right. They've been one of the elite teams ever since
Josh Allen kind of became a pro, and they always
leave just a little something to be desired at the end.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, you know, normally they're you know, pretty stout in
the regular season, so to be a to see cracks
like we're seeing right now with them.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Look, don't get me wrong, they're six and three still,
but it just, you know, it feels off. It really does.
So it's one of those situations where you kind of
scratch your head. It's like, don't, well, what team is it?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
What do you see? Like? What what? What?

Speaker 7 (22:24):
Like?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, they've lost three of their last five. What do
you see that is off?

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I don't think they have enough firepower on the outside.
In terms of receivers. They have some working class guys
Coleman secure, but nobody where a defense has to roll
coverage too, and with the quarterback who can make any throw,

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not having someone to really stretch the field put your
offense in a in a tough, tough mind because you'll
get you know, one high safety more in the box
to stop to run. It just changes the dynamic. You're
not people aren't afraid of you stretching the field and

(23:13):
beating them down the field.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, not done with the AFC conversation at all.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
But good thing.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
We're not like the Buffalo Bills because we got firepower.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yes we do.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
We got firepower on this show.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
And that firepower tonight comes in the form of breemureau Abri.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
Guys, how are you?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (23:33):
I'm just so happy to be here on a day
that the Saints won, right isn't.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That just one of the chances of that?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
By the way, I mean, wow, congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
I felt like you guys would be really happy for me.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
You know well you famously said on this show, many
many months in front of the world, I think the
Saints found their quarterback and his name was was Spencer Rattler.
I guess now that you find she was a Redler girl. Yes,
so now I guess I should ask you again if
you feel like maybe the Saints have found their quarterback?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Are you an R shucks girl now?

Speaker 8 (24:11):
Or are you really nice Okay, absolutely no, So you're out.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
You're out on Shucks.

Speaker 8 (24:17):
I was never in on Tyler Shuck. Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Nobody won a football game, oh boy for you.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think he's won as many games as spent a Right,
there's a.

Speaker 8 (24:27):
Rather one that you did not touche touche.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I mean, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
What's with the discrimination here? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
I'm just like, you know what, you just feel something
or you don't. It's kind of like dating. You either
just like kind of vibe or you don't.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
Right, Oh, there's no spark spark with Tyler Shuck.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
He is like a flash in the pan for me.
I just I don't see it. I don't I don't
see it. But you know what, Look what's in the
league right now? We got Davis Mills, who got Snoopuntley. Like,
I mean, what am I I shouldn't complain about Tyler Shuck?

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Right?

Speaker 8 (24:57):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Just well, I mean, just you know, how about an
open mind? You know what I mean? Maybe maybe you'll
grow to love him break.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
I don't think it's gonna be a slow burn.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Guys. But speaking of the Dolphins and the Bills, Miami
ended a seven game losing streak against Buffalo dating back
to twenty twenty two. They dominate them thirty to thirteen.
They could have used Rashid Shaheed. The Bills could have
used a Rashid Shaheed. That would have been a really
good I just thought of that right now. Devon Chan
two hundred and twenty five rushing yards and two touchdowns.

(25:27):
He has thirty two touchdowns in his first thirty eight
career games, which is really exciting. Ravens over the Vikings
twenty seven to nineteen. Baltimore has now won three straight
after starting one in five on the year. Jets outscore
the Browns twenty seven to twenty. Earlier this morning, the
Colts defeated the Falcons thirty one and to the thirty
one twenty five in overtime in Berlin, and then just

(25:48):
the afternoon slate of games, the Rams improved seven to
two after knocking off the forty nine Ers forty two
to twenty six. The Seahawks dominated the Cardinals forty four
to twenty two, and the Lions top the Commanders forty
four twenty two.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
And right now in the Sunday night.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
Football game, it's scoreless with twelve minutes left to go
in the first quarter. Heading into the game, Justin Herbert
is three and zero in primetime. Aaron Rodgers is zero
and two in primetime this season. So that's just kind
of something to keep an eye on.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Huh to you guys, I mean, thanks, Britty. I guess
we don't even need to play the game now. Like
Aaron Rodgers loses, Justin Herbert wins. Those are the rules.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
There we go the rules.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I'd be fine with that, by the way, I'd be
fine with that.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Who we have in our survivor pool.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Well, do you want the full story? I don't.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I don't you know. I always feel like nobody cares,
not what I care. I mean, all right, here's two situations.
So I've told you about that. There's two survivor pools.
Is the big the big boy, and then there's the
little guy. And the little guy is still like though
not so little that I don't want to win it.
But the big guy has the that's the one with

(26:59):
different rules. It's it's not till week eleven that you
can't repeat a pick.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
And it has.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Many, many, many, many, many many hundreds of people in it.
And if you fall out of the first one. There's
also a second chance Oh that has this is still big,
not as big, but big. Anyway, last week the Packers
took me down to the second chance thing, and today

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the Bills took you out sent me home.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
So that is that nine straight weeks and then back
to back weeks. Boom boom, two shots, night night go on. However,
the smaller one is more traditional. From the beginning, you
cannot repeat a pick. We're down to three people. Oh
you're one of them.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I am one of them.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Who do you have today?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
We're not there yet. Oh you're watching it right now.
Oh yes, this was like if anybody's still in these
this was a really hard week. I'm sure, really hard
week to find something that you like, felt good about.
Plus then add in you've already made nine picks, so
not available to me the Lions or the Colts, or

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thankfully the Bills, or like all those teams Denver on Thursday,
not available to me. All have been used already. So
I settled on, and I know it's a roll of
the dice. I settled on these Chargers right here. Oh
and the other two players already have already moved on
to Week eleven, they won already.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
They won.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
One of them took Denver Thursday and the other one
still had Seattle to.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
So if you're out, they can say, hey, you want
to split this thing.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
They can, but they won't because like it's not like
it's not a dollar amount that would make people want
to do that. It kind of feels like wimpy, you
know what I mean. Yeah, boy, Aaron Rodgers just missed
a touch half got behind the defense and it was
third down two.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh well wow, yeah, there you have it.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
So anyway, so yeah, if i'm I won't be, but
I like if I do at any point, sound distracted tonight,
Like got a little something riding on this Warriors are
tipping off right now.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's a lot going on there from it it is.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's a lot going on. I'm here with you, but
I'm a professional, So it's fine. And the Steelers do
strike first long field goal. They're up three to nothing.
Fifty nine yard field goal.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Good. So there you have it, to the delight of
the road crowd.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, it's it's been a it was a weird day
to day.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
It was a really weird day to day, really really
weird day. So first off, mark with it he from Salam.
We're living in the Fox Sports radio studios. I had
said about fifteen minutes ago, do you hear those footsteps?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Do you hear them?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
We've been trying to tell you that they're coming. Hey,
this was the one of the five week stretch that
I thought, Eh, that could be tough for the Ravens,
like going to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm never going to blow that one off.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I think they can do it, but I don't want
to blow that one off. Well, Green check, that's three
wins in a row. They'll be in Cleveland next week,
they'll host the Jets the week after that, They'll host
the Bengals the week after that, and then they'll host
these Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, December seventh. And I'll go

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ahead and predict right now that that game on December
seventh will probably have first place.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Implications on the line.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
For those of you who wrote off the Baltimore Ravens,
Gino Smith has a word with you.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
The Ravens didn't right back.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
The Ravens, I will say right now, are still going
to win the AFC North. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
They You know, like you said, today was a game
that was gonna be tough for them. Minnesota was playing
extremely well JJ. They came off of JJ. McCarthy had
a good game coming back, got his legs under him.
And so this was the question mark. Can they go
into Minnesota, tough place to play and can they pull

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this out?

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
And you know, early on it was like, oh, I
don't know, man, maybe they can't. Uh. And then you know,
it became one of those things like, oh, okay, I
see they start stretching their legs, defense started playing a
little bit better, batting things down, and they went on
and and won covered the spread.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
That was one of my picks. I went three and
over today.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
So I had Atlanta plus the points, lost by six,
six point five?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Thank you God?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Did you really? Oh yeah, look at you?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Oh yeah. And the thing to save me was them
scoring and over Andy scoring in overtime, because once you score,
it's over. You don't get an extra point. That's right,
that's right, yep.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Then I had Seattle and in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Okay, all right, there you have it for me. Yeah,
good for you. Like statistically, you look at the Ravens win.
I'm not really totally clear on how this all came together.
Lamar didn't do anything sparkly. Derrick Henry didn't do anything sparkly,
like the Vikings turned the ball over a bunch. I
think that that's pretty much the difference in the game.

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JJ McCarthy two picks, they lost a fumble. The Ravens
did not turn the ball over. There's there's your ball game.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, it's it comes down to those things sometimes, you know,
it wasn't like he was sacked a bunch of times.
They gave up one sack, but it was one of
those situations where the Ravens managed the game. And like
you said, Lamar wasn't spectacular. I still don't. Well, just
watching him play and I said this, just watching him play,

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to me, it doesn't look like you know, he was
looking prior to the hamstring. There's a there's a thing.
Watching him play is like I don't want to open
this thing all the way up because I don't want
to go stand back on the sideline. And you can

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tell he's a little bit tentative in his play.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
And so.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
That's one of the biggest things I noticed in that game,
Like we didn't get Lamar and all of his splendor
in his grace, uh in terms of his abilities so
he's just trying to do enough to keep this thing going.
So we'll see how this thing shakes out if he
can get help as he's playing, which is a big
question mark.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Six more days arrest now before they take on the
Cleveland Browns. All right, much much more to discuss. As promised,
The top three things, our top observations of the entire
week are coming up here in just about twenty minutes.
Looking forward to that with He from Salama, Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2 (34:37):
All right, three things in like ten twelve minutes, we're
live Fox Sports Radio Studios with he from Salam.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm Mark Willard.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Week ten, National Football League. Hey, man, is is Drake
May just nice? Or is he the next big thing?
It's not. It's not numbers, it's not even like, hey,
the Patriots won another football game. I just want to, like,

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I want to encourage everybody, like if you haven't like watched, like,
sit down and watch a Drake May game. You're talking
about somebody whose pocket presence.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I haven't seen a young.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Quarterback come into the league and look like this in
quite some time. And I'm talking about with very very
large arms and legs and things like literally right in
his face and around his feet and all the things
that normally serve to make a QB very uncomfortable. The
man stands and delivers unbelievable throws and I just wow,

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his presence on the field right now is beyond impressive.
And if you start to project this forward a little
bit to where it's like, Okay, give this guy another
year or two of experience, I still don't think what's
going on around him is necessarily all that elite. Right
his running back room has kind of been beaten up.

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He's got this kid now, Trevion Henderson behind him. He
had a big day.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well, you asked a question a couple of weeks ago,
yep on why won't they unleashed this young man?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
And they have unleashed him.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Thank you Remandre for getting hurt. But hello, it wasn't
a fantasy football thing. It was like, I don't understand
why you keep sticking with a running back who, oh
my god, just fumbles all of the time.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Speaking of fumble.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, whoop, see and Daisy just got together and had
a baby, and Aaron Rodgers is down in the end
zone and we've got a baseball score, two run homer
for the Chargers and three to two in the bottom
of a fair.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
But that wasn't on you beingo card the offensive.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
We were just talking about pocket presence, weren't we.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, that you're in the end zone, don't go that way.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
No, that was that was an old man moment there
for go that way? Yeah, yeah, that was that. That
was bad.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Hmmm, that was bad. What if this game ended up
being three to two?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Something tells me it won't, but sure it would be
the most Mike Tomlin thing ever.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Few teams out there right now that are kind of
like flirting with all of that. And don't get me wrong,
because you and I have been high on the Broncos
since before the year started. But dude, that was hard
to watch. What the hell is going on with that offense?
What shall we talk about it?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
We can, all right? I mean, like, how are they
eight and two?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
And here's one thing, there's no way for us to
know if this is accurate or not. I'm just gonna
go ahead and bet like somebody at the sports bureau
or whatever can maybe look this up. I gotta think
that never before in the history of the NFL has
an eight and two football team.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, and what's the winning streak at seven?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, okay, You've never had a seven game win streak
for a team with a winning percentage of eight hundred
or better.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Follow all that by being an underdog at home.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But I gotta think that the Chiefs are going to
be favored in that football game.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Oh yeah, Andy Reid off of a bye.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
That's hard to do. It's hard to beat that.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
I mean on the only way and only thing you
need to do, the blueprint to beating the Chiefs is
the pressure. Now, hopefully Kansas City gets their offensive line back.
I remember, you know last week they had one at
one point one starter in the game, and you know

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Trey Smith, but everybody else. You know, it's hard to
be special when the majority of your offensive line is
in the blue tint are sitting on the sideline for sure,
And so I can't tell you what's for real in
Denver that defense. I can tell you that that is

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for real for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
They might be are they the best.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yes, that that that front Steven is Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
To me, there's three candidates, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
If this is the sp Award for favorite defense of
the year so far, it's Denver, It's Houston, or it's
the Rams. Yeah, I think those are my three favorites
right now. I think, uh, tip of the cop to
Seattle two are those are good favorites.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, But this Denver defense man, they are relentless and
they will get out. I mean, you got big Allen
in the middle with a pass rush, and and and
and what happens you can't is no way you can go.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
They rush with great lane integrity. They won't allow.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
You to get the edge or squeak through the middle,
and that's a dangerous thing.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
You can rush with four.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
That allows you to do your thing exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Well, that's gonna be a hell of a match up.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
There's some big ones next week, but we got more
to do this week. Three things coming up next. Watch
party is well underway. The Steelers have three the Chargers
have two, and no I'm not talking about time outs
left in this half. That's the actual score of the game.
As we approach the final ticks all the the first

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quarter stems with the ball and in the threatening zone.
We'll keep you up to date.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
There.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All
kinds of stuff to do and talk about here with
Week ten in the National Football League unfolding right here
in front of our eyes, a lot of teams as
we move into the second half of the season starting
to sort of declare themselves as contenders, and yes, a

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handful of them declaring themselves as the opposite as well.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So let's get to it. Here are the rules.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Three things we do this at six Pacific ninetiester and
every single Sunday night, the top three observations that eat
Freman I have after a week of watching the NFL,
and then dot dot dot maybe a little something special
at the end outside the NFL as well. So he
you ready to rock? Okay, here we go. Let's do it.

(41:58):
Three things. As always, I will go first so that
Ephraim can go last. Here's number one, and I really
want your reaction here because it feels like a tradition
that at this time every Sunday I get mad at
the refs and then you try to talk me through
some sort of a rule change that I.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Want to make.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Here's my new one today, where the hell is replay
assist on flags that are thrown that are not subjective?
Can we talk about this, NFL, you might have stepped
in mud by letting us know that you have the

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technology for replay assist real quick.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
For those of you who don't know what a.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Replay assist is, is that now you've got eyeballs up
in booths looking at plays in real time and having
to basically save coaches from throwing red hankies on the
field when they can quickly radio down to the ref
in that whole kind of melee that happens right after

(43:06):
a play and say, actually, it was not a fumble.
His knee was down, it was caused, It was caused
by the ground, Bob, it was caused by the ground.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
And then they'll come out and they'll.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Say, replay assists confirms that it is not a fumble,
and now nobody has to burn a review. Well, you
got a problem, And the problem is is you told
us that you can do that. So if you tell
us that you can do that, what the hell is
your reason for not being able to undo horrible calls

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for things like illegal shifts or false starts or delay
of games, fact or fiction calls, no subjectivity, not pass
interference fact or fiction flags. Why can replay assist not help?

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Oh well, I think it can help, but I don't
think they want to get into that business because you
can essentially do that on every flag every play. Uh,
And that's a slippery slope, even though yes, it will help.
And you know, if it's not an illegal shift, if
a player does get set before the ball is snapped,
they should be able to call it up. But literally,

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then we would really see and this is a real thing.
Now we'll really understand and see just how flawed the
referees are. Yep, and they are not trying to show
a spotlight on that.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
And I could promise you that.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Do you know which play inspired this take?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I think I do.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Go ahead, And what's your guess.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
What game was that it was?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
It was a forty nine ers game, keep going and
it was kittle right, it was Kittle Yeah, Oh.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Snow, big deal. It was only four freaking down in
the second half where the forty nine ers are trying
to get themselves back into the football game. Look, they
got outplayed. They got beat. I have no issue with that,
But the point is is you've got a clear as
day pass interference situation on a throw to George Kittle,

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which was called, but it turns into offsetting penalties because
Kittle himself was called for an illegal shift. Whoops. They
happened to show the audience the highlight. Whoops, they happen
to show Tom Brady the highlight, and in real time,
he goes, that's not an illegal shift.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
What the hell was that?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
The guy runs in motion and sets up on the line,
full stop, full count before the snap, and we're calling
an illegal shift in literally a play that ended the
game because now you force the forty nine ers to
run the play again and they're in a fourth down.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Desperate situation.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Defense, total different defense, little pressure on Mac Jones, he
gets he throws a pick. Night night ballgame over. It
should tough, It's tough. It's tough anyway. That's my first take.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
My first take is something we alluded to in the
first Tower as Jackson Dart number one.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
The New York Giants need Jackson Dart.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
He was the perfect pick for them and their franchise,
and what they've been going through the last couple of years.
The experiment did not work with Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones
has shown to be a real life quarterback like he
can play, it just was not the right fit.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
It just wasn't.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Jackson Dart comes in, Russell Wilson starts, the season, doesn't
go as plan, He's inserted, and instantly there's energy in
the building. Jackson Dart is the type of player who
is a dual threat player, legs and arms. He's a
bit wild and reckless right now, but this herkens me

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back to someone else Brian day Ball coached. That also
was what the Buffalo Bills needed, and that was Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
When he came out, he came out.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
With a spark and a flare and a willing to
do anything to help his team win. Brian day Ball
was able to cultivate that and manage that and craft
that into what is the league MVP now and I
see the same characteristics in Jackson Dart. The difference is

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Jackson Dart throws a better ball earlier than Josh Allen did.
Josh Allen was very sporadic. His completion percentage was down
in the fifties early in his career and just watching
Jackson Dart play now he has a completion percentage of

(48:06):
I believe sixty two point three percent right now in
his young career. But this is what they need. They
need someone like him now. We talked about it earlier.
He is his worst enemy. But when you're on a
team where you have to be the heartbeat and the everything,
similar to what Josh Allen was to the Buffalo Bills

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before you know they really put a team around him,
then you feel like you have to push. Now, this
is Brian, He's been here before. He needs to be
able to in real time, be able to cultivate that
and smooth Jackson Dart out and give them an opportunity
to really see what this young man can do, especially

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for the rest of the season.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
You know what Jackson Dart has that I just I'll
never really fully understand or know how to look four it.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
He got it.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
HiT's it, that's it, And I don't know how to
describe it. But if you're a human being, you know
what I mean when I say this. You know it
when you see it, that's it. Like you turn on
the TV and you're like, that guy's got hit and
it works in New York a.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Special oh man, they love them, they love them.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
It's fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
And in order for him to continue to have it,
he needs to cultivate it. Yeah, because it can get
you into trouble and it can get you on ir.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
No doubt about it. Jackson ruled out with a concussion today.
We'll see if he can make it through protocol and
play for the Giants next week.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
All right, here's my number two. You ready for it? Yeah,
Jaguars are a fraud.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
The Jacksonville Jaguars are a complete and total fraud. And
like listen, Houston's got I already told you they're one
of my top three favorite defenses in the league. But somehow, someway,
the Jaguars were moving the ball today, they had put
twenty nine points up. Now they were going up against

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a backup quarterback, and that was part of it. It's
not like Trevor Lawrence had a sparkling day. Let's keep
let's put him aside for one second. I'm gonna get
to him. I'm gonna get to him. But at the
same time, I don't know how I can put it
all completely on the quarterback. When you entered the fourth

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quarter up ready twenty nine to ten, and you've lost
in regulation twenty sixth to nothing in the fourth quarter
for the Houston Texans, that's flat out just not taking

(50:59):
care of the football, not taking care of the football game.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
That is just embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
And credit to Davis Mills, who doesn't get to play
a whole lot of football to come out there and
do what he did and complete passes and keep the
chains moving. And you got Woody Marx, who I love.
I think that's a really good young running back. And
so credit to them as the Texans kind of sort
of maybe saved their season for a moment. But this

(51:28):
Jaguar flirtation with a wild card spot, my opinion, you
can forget it.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Yeah they I never was a believer in the Jacksonville Jaguars.
I watched Trevor Lawrence try to give games away that
they were winning, and so I never was on board
of Jacksonville has arrived. Is too many things that they
need to clean up in the way they approach it
and the way they play the game. So I was

(51:54):
never sold on them. Shout out to the Texans for
just putting their heads down and steamrolling right through that
fourth quarter and coming away with the win.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
That was impressive.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
And you know, not to you know, take anything away
from the Texans, but they need to.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
They can't survive doing that.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Now.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
David Mills was in there for for CJ. Stroud again
and when CJ comes back, they'll be better. But you know,
shout out for them with a backup quarterback and that's
the that's the key.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Jacksonville gave up a nineteen point lead, a twenty point
lead in the fourth quarter with going against the backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Shame on them.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Trevor Lawrence two fumbles, one lost a pick. He only
completed thirteen passes at.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Two yards at some at one point with about six
minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Remember when I was talking about how Jackson Dart had it.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah, Trevor doesn't.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
He don't.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Nope, Nope, I ain't got it.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
For me. It's the Patriots. We talked about him a
little bit again. But when you look at the Patriots
and what Mike Rabral has been able to do with
Drake May and uh, it's.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
For me watching them.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
And I've never been a Patriots fan even when I play,
you know, of course, but watching this young man take
control and leadership of this team, the way defensively they're
attacking opponents, but the way the offensive staff and Mike
Varibol has the confidence in Drake May to let him
just go, just go be like they're they're not putting

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any handcuffs on him. They're allowing him to go out
there and play. And they went against a very formidable
Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay Bucks team at home, and
I always I had to fill in that whole game
that Okay, it's Baker time, Baker's about to and on,

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Baker's about to lead them back. And Baker played extremely
well two hundred and seventy three yards, three touchdowns like
he played extremely well. But Drake May and the New
England Patriots would not let that go, would not let
go of the reins. Now look at this now they're
eight and two. Look at their schedule for the remainder

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of the year. They have the Jets, the Bengals, the Giants,
the Bills, Ravens, then the Jets and Dolphins. Out of
all of those, it's two games in there where you're like, Okay,
it could go either way, essentially just by you know,

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not by what we saw from the Bills today, but
they'll be favorites with against the Jets, the Bengals, the Giants,
the Jets again, and the Dolphins, no question.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
And so now you're.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Looking at that, and that's four games right where you're like,
oh wow, five game excuse me. Yep, now you're looking like,
huh wait, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
They have a.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Chance to run away with the number one seed in
the AFC. Like another Patriots team in Dynasty that we
came accustomed to the road through to the Super Bowl
went through Foxborough.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Remember, they've already got a game in hand against the
Bill already, and the Bills lost a division game today. Boy,
things are starting to really flipping their favor.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
So I just for me, the New England Patriots are
one of those teams that they're extremely well coached and
and they're dangerous on all fronts. They're dangerous on all
front and Drake May is playing out of his mind.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
They're getting better. They getting better every week. I really
thought this was a bad spot for them today an
impressive win, as impressive as they've had all year. And
so yes, I'm with you, they are for real all right,
last one for me. I'll be quick on this, and
this is where I'm gonna flip my forty nine er
take my sour grapes in the other direction. Look, it's
not their fault, but they did nothing at the deadline.

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They've lost Fred Wanner, they've lost Nick Bosa. If you
look at the framework of the NFC and the schedule remaining,
and the fact that maybe their quarterback and top receiver
are going to come back here soon, maybe I still
think the forty nine ers are probably going to work
their way to a wild card spot, but they are
then going to lose that football game, and they might

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lose that football game going away, because unfortunately for this team,
this is not a defense that can compete with playoff teams.
Next week the Cardinals, then the Panthers, then the Browns,
then a bye, then the Titans.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
You get my drift. Yeah, they can play those.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Teams, but you watch what a veteran quarterback came into
Levi's stadium today and did to this group of pups
and backups. And quite frankly, there's a few guys on
there that I don't even.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Think should be on NFL rosters.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
This defense and This is why I was bummed at
the deadline.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I get why the Niners didn't go all.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
In on a season like this, but we've talked about
it the last few weeks. The fact that they did
nothing incredibly frustrating because flot out, this defense is not
good enough to play good teams.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
No, and we talked about what they should do, and
you asked me the question last week, they should they
do make a move with the trade deadline, even though
they have so many guys out, and I said absolutely,
because you look at their schedule and where they are.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
They're a playoff team, but they need help, especially defensively,
and they did nothing.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
They stood pat like you said, and now they're going
to find themselves as a middling wild card playoff team.
Who yes, we made it to the playoffs, but they
won't have any pop or any spark when the postseason starts.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Scratch a hand, scratcher.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yep, yep, exactly right, All right, fire away man, what
you got?

Speaker 4 (58:26):
So this one is a This is a As a parent,
I try to find ways to, you know, stay on
top of my boys. I have a fourteen year old
on eleven year old. One is an athlete, one is
a engineer. My eleven year old is an athlete, spend

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a lot of time. We've heard plenty of stories of
his AAU journeys here that I've shared with our audience
and you, And this is this is something I noticed,
and this is just like a it's like a word
of wisdom to other parents of athletic children. I've always

(59:12):
told my son that playing basketball comes second. It's second.
You're a student first. You can't have one without the other.
It just doesn't work. I said, son, I don't care
if you ever play another basketball game, but I do
care if you're studying and graduating and moving through school.

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That's very important as a person because eventually basketball and
sports will turn off and you're with what you're left with.
And so it's always been a rule in our household.
It was like that for me when I was growing up,
that school is first. So my eleven year old, who
I spent all summer, eleven straight weeks going into AAU

(01:00:00):
tournaments all over the country, NonStop, none and lost it
in the greater Los Angeles area. So a lot of
money spent, a lot of miles, put on cars and
tickets and planes and hotels and get an email earlier
in the week last week about you know, my highly gifted, tested,

(01:00:24):
highly gifted eleven year old, my sixth grader is on
the cusp of not passing a class. So we did
a deep dive and found out he was, you know,
not holding up his end of the bargain in two classes.
So essentially he is no longer an athlete. And a

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lot of people will be like, well, you know, he's young,
he's learning. Yet the lessons they learn now will carry
through their whole life. If I allow my son to
get continue to play as though nothing is wrong, then
shame on me. He goes to school on Monday, does

(01:01:11):
his homework. We have training on Monday, practice on Tuesday,
training on Wednesday, practice on Wednesday, I mean practice on Thursday,
practice on Friday. We play on the weekends. Obviously it's
too much. So now there's nothing but time to do
school work and raise our grades. And for me, I'm

(01:01:31):
excited because it's been a week. All week he didn't
have any basketball at all, nothing but the focus and
the drive that he's shown and raising his grades and
turning in his work. He had a backpack full of
work that he did. It never turned in. I don't

(01:01:52):
even understand that you've done the hard part. Yep, just
turn it in, son.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Wow. If we try to yeah, yeah, if you try
to understand, you probably won't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
But you did a good thing. She did a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
And then we're gonna be sidelined and until it's yeah,
it's better.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah, it probably won't be long.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
All right, broadcast live in the Fox Sports Radio studios.
That's three things we do it around this time every
single week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Speaking of moral dilemmas.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I have a fantasy football one that I want to
run by you next, which we'll do coming up next
with you from Salama, Mark Weather.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
All right. These are the Fox Sports Radio studios, Mark Weather,
a from Salam Chargers lead the Steelers five to three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
More on that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
In literally just a second from say something, say something
about football, could be anything, touchdown, okay, perfect. I just
want to make sure your voice got in there before
we kicked it right over to Breemurea, because yeah, it's time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
It's already time. Let's go, oh Brae, let's do this.

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
Oh boy, So not too many changes in the Sunday
night football game, you guys. Cameron Dicker at least got
involved and kicked a thirty two yard field goal to
bring up the Charters score five to three, five minutes
left to go in the second quarter.

Speaker 8 (01:03:14):
So this is just super exciting. This is like a
riveting game.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
I got my popcorn, I ordered some ramen on on
the way, like I got a smoothie coming.

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
Like, I'm just this is so exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Little sarcastic for a Saints fan. I just like, little
bit right, a little bit high scoring for a Saints
game right now. Okay, a lot going on in this game.

Speaker 8 (01:03:34):
I just feel like we're just Sunday night games. They're
just so hit and miss.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
I feel like we've only had like one or two
really exciting ones. What was the Ravens and Chiefs or
no Chiefs and Bills? How many weeks ago was that?
Like that was really fun? And now look at what
we're look.

Speaker 8 (01:03:47):
At what we're watching.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Yeah, Bill, Bill's Patriots was a good one. Bill's Ravens
was a good one. We just need bills. Apparently we
need the bills. We don't have the.

Speaker 8 (01:03:54):
Bills today, but not the Bills today.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
Yes, the Dolphins dominated them thirty the thirteenth. Josh Allen
still threw for three hundred and six yards and two touchdowns,
but he lost the ball twice and it was the
first time in two years that Buffalo was shut out
in the first half, So that was a little kind
of weird to see. Also, a little bit earlier, the
Bears edged the Giants twenty four to twenty to hand

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the New York handed No, no, oh, my god, I'm
like all over the place because I thought I thought
something happened in the game.

Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
Sorry, New York.

Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
Had their fourth straight loss. Jackson Dart left the game
in the third quarter with a concussion. And then in
the NFC West, the Seahawks dominated the Cardinals forty four
to twenty two. They completed a season sweep of the Cardinals.
Seattle has not lost to Arizona since twenty twenty one,
and the Rams improved a seven and two after knocking
off the forty nine Ers forty two to twenty six.

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Matthew Stafford with his MVP campaign going strong four hundred
career touchdowns and four touchdowns today, so that was a
little exciting as well. And then in baseball got some
dr going on. The Cleveland Guardians pitchers Emmanuel Cosse and
Luis Ortiz had been indicted by prosecutors in Brooklyn on

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a host of charges related to a scheme to rig
bets on pitches drown in MLB games. It found guilty,
they could face up to sixty five years in prison.

Speaker 8 (01:05:18):
So that is more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Can we talk about that for a second. Wow, I
don't want to take it here, but I have to
because a buddy of me mine texted.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Me earlier today and he reminded me, don't have it
in front of you. What is ditty facing How many
years in prison? Is diddy face?

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Four years? You got four years?

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Four years?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
And these guys are facing sixty five because they threw
a ball instead of a strike on purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
A man miss making money and the integrity.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
At a game.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
They were only paid five thousand dollars each for throwing
the intentional ball, which.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
By that that's another story in and of itself, which is, hey,
y'all need to drive a harder bargain.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
If you're going to commit a felony.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
As a professional baseball player, I'm gonna need more than
five k in order to do that. But at the
same time, what the hell with the punishment fitting the crime?

Speaker 8 (01:06:20):
Sixty five years?

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
So what does that mean for like the NBA side,
Like when we look at like Chauncey, Billups and Terry
and like what how many years?

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
Like isn't that kind of crazy to think about?

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Frightening? Frightening quite frankly.

Speaker 8 (01:06:33):
Life in prison probably back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Okay, that was that was uplifting. Thank you, Bree, I
pick the mood up? What No, but for real, what
are we doing? Yeah? They threw a ball instead of
a strike on purpose. They tilted the things in the
gambler's favor. They took a little kickback on the whole
thing sixty five years And I know that's not what

(01:06:57):
it's going to end up at, but like, I don't know, man, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Right, fer man, right, it's different federal charges. I see
federal charges on your heart.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So Diddy's stuff was local apparently.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Well they couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
They didn't indict him on the Yeah, you know, I
don't want to get into this, do you know puff
Daddy trial?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
You know how hard I'm fighting right now to not
bring up show heo Tani? Do you know how hard
I'm fighting? Do you know what's happening inside my body
right now?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
As I fight the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Idea that I've moved on you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Damn right. It is. Certain cases get hurt real fast,
real fast, don't they.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
I'm fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I'm having an inner battle right now and I'm losing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
I just wanted you to know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Hey, man, go ahead, hazy, I can hear your smile.
Two time, two time YE World Series champion.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Yeah, okay, you're you're actually explaining why.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
He's bringing up old stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Oh no, not bringing up one. Not that old.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
He just showed up to prison like two months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Brother, That is a nice stay. Two guys, own room,
a chef in there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I hope, So, I hope. So you know that boy's
in the hotel right there. Anyway, Yeah, all your your
reasoning is exactly why that went the way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
That it went. Yeah, he is vital to the sport.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Oh, he is the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
He is the sport.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
He's the life.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Baseball had a tremendous year. The World Series was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
There was an incredible series, and.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
So you know, Baseball won this year. They did captivated
a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, that the rating for
that going seven games and whatnot. Yeah, it was tremendous,
tremendous year. Absolutely you still get a text message when
that amount of money gets transferred out of you account.
But still, it was a great year for Major League Baseball.

(01:09:21):
I don't, I don't. I don't know if you've had
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Wow, this is a This game is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
The Chargers have just intercepted Aaron Rodgers and returned the
ball to the high red as they call it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
This is awful.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Now, what's so awful? I know there is no flow
to the offense. Yeah, that's what's awful. Well, this is
a pass. It's a credit to people like you, Ephraim. Actually,
why there's no flow in this game? I told you
that the Chargers the better football team, and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
I think you agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Aaron Rodgers is having a bad game. Aaron Rodgers is
an old man. This is going to happen. He's not
that good anymore. But you want to know why there's
no flow on the offensive side for the Chargers. No
team in the NFL has suffered more disruption on their
offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Oh yeah, they don't have anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
They lost all their guys. So Justin Herbert is now
hobbling around out there because he's getting hit a lot.
They're also on like their third running back, So you're
getting a third running back who's running behind the third
and fourth string offensive line. I do too, Yeah, KAMAI vidall.
It's actually kind of amazing that they look the way

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they do and that they're six and three. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Man, they putting it together. They trying to figure out. Look,
sometimes you just got to go out there and play
with what you guy. Everybody getting paid, and it's difficult
when the people getting making the most money not on
the field.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Right, Some people make more than others. Yeah, yes, some
people make more than other.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Well, it's an opportunity for you, for a lot of
young players to start their career.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
It sure is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
And I mean, you know, flashing back to the forty
nine er point that I made at the top of
the hour, that's fair, which is to say, all of
these other pass rushers, and I'm not kidding, no fewer
than probably twelve or thirteen have been given an opportunity
to go make a name for themselves and none of
them have.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Like, it's incredible watching the daily brick wall that whoever
that defensive line produces runs into doesn't matter what jersey
the other team's wearing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
You saw it two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
When they went to Houston. I think, for my money,
probably the worst offensive line in football. Yes, but not
that day, not that day. That day they stopped them cold.
It's wild and so yeah, the depth has been done, exposed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
But the Chargers are hanging in there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
They're hanging in there, man, hanging in there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Shout out to both defenses.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Uh, yes, shout out. Shout out. Shout out to defenses
and kickers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Three to five?

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Yeah, good lord, Yeah, Sunday night primetime.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Well, it made sense in theory, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Yeah, right, two top teams in the AFC. Yes, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
You've been justin Herbert and Aaron Rodgers swashed Bucklin. Six
or four quarterbacks, old one and a new one. Very
little travel for the broadcast team is probably based in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
La right, you know, like, all good, all good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
It made sense in theory, and maybe they're about to
uncork a beautiful second half.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
You think, no, but I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Rule it out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
All right, A lot more to do on week ten here,
having some fun with it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Nowhere near done yet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I'd love to dive a little further into those Broncos
with you. Is that it's hard to call someone a
pretender at eight and two, But but are they Let's
dive into these guys a little bit. I know you'll
have some insight. That's e from Salama. Mark Wellard, this
is Fox Sports Radio. Well my friend from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. Do we have an update or what

(01:13:35):
those guys went?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Super update?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
They went and used the end zone. One of my
favorite names in the NFL. I feel like if you're
drunk bad, if you're drunken in Irish bar, really fun
name to say. Love maconk Uh, that's a that's a

(01:13:59):
touchdown and it's it's twelve to three in favor of
the good guys.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Boy are you holding on?

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Huh? J mcguirey, you're like, what very dread?

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
But you dig that about me? You dig that, Jerry,
you dig.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Twelve to three. It's almost halftime. We will keep you
up to date. Mark Willardy from Salam. All right, they're
eight and two. Uh. Their defense is maybe the best
we've watched defenses in the NFL before lead teams to
championships almost by themselves. Baltimore Raisvens, Chicago Bears. Is this

(01:14:48):
that kind of defense? And is this that kind of
day and age in the NFL, Like the Broncos are
going to have to do something differently right on offense
if they actually want to contend.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's the thing about great defenses. And
I don't know if they're at a place to be
historic like the Bears and like a couple of the
Bears defenses and and and Baltimore Lew.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Yeah, Like, I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Don't know if they're there, but what I do know
is they will get after you, and they keep coming
and and and they just literally won't stop. And it
takes a lot of pressure off your offense. It allows

(01:15:44):
them to figure things out. Now, they were playing against
the lowly Raiders. It's a divisional game. Both they do
not like each other. Okay, it doesn't matter who's there,
whether Shanahan, they're not. The Broncos don't like the Raiders.
It was, it's just what it is. I remember him saying, Yeah,

(01:16:08):
I don't care if we're eleven or oh or oh
and eleven. We don't lose to them. And if you
want next week to be hell, then lose to the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
So he would say that to you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Oh yeah, in his mind, Al David still old him
like two hundred and fifty grand or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
I don't think it's just in his mind.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Right, Yeah, Actually the truth I think he did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
So you know, it's one of those things where they
keep punching and keep finding ways to win. It's not pretty,
it's not sexy, but it's working. And they're eight and
two after ten games. No one had them at eight
and two after ten games. No, I'd be what were there?

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Did you do?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
You know what they're uh, the Vegas over under? Yes,
I don't, but I would be shocked if it wasn't
ten and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
I try to look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I'll try to look it up, because you know, teams
to get eleven and a half got you gotta be
Bill's chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
You know, you have one of those guys Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Right, that's the elite, elite, you know, preseason team. So
I know there were people that thought, and you and
I were two of them, people who thought, hey, the Broncos,
watch out for that team this year. But I cannot
imagine that it was more than than ten and a half.
But I will, I'll look it up, because yeah, the
Broncos look like they're on their way to an over.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Yeah, and because when you look at it, and you
if you look at this game, both teams played bad.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
About the same.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Both had eleven penalties eighty three yards and seventy eight
yards respectively, turned the ball over interceptions. I'm a possession
twenty nine to fourteen to thirty forty six yards per play,
three point two to three point nine, total drive, thirteen apiece,

(01:18:11):
third down efficiency four for fifteen, five for fifty. They
played identical games, YEP. That's why it was so tough
to watch, because it's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Can anyone do anything?

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Can you sustain a drive? Can you? Is there any
spark or anything here? And it just is one of
those rival games that we all unfortunately had to watch
because it was the only game on I have.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
The preseason win totals in front of me. The four
teams that were at eleven and a half with the
Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills, the Kansas City Chiefs, and
the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
The ten and a half teams were the Detroit Lions,
the Green Bay Packers, and the San Francisco forty nine ers.
That means the Broncos came in at nine and a half,
the nine and a half teams, and this is fun
to do. Think about where they're at now, Cincinnati Bengals,
Denver Broncos, Houston Texans, these Los Angeles Chargers, also Los

(01:19:21):
Angeles Rams, that's gonna be an over yeah, Tampa Bay
Bucks and the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
It's just going money going an under money, gone.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Going to be an under.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Yeah. I really I want to believe that bone Nicks
is going to be a big deal and is a
really good player, and sometimes I feel that way, and
I want to feel that way, but there's this stop
start thing to the process of watching him. Yeah right,
it's a motor that like gets going and then and

(01:19:55):
then it's butters and there's just still too much of that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I know. Is still second year player.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Yeah, I mean, he's not a lot to learn, but
I think he's a system quarterback and he works well
within that system of.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
John Payton.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Like he's not off script, he's yeah, you know, this
is what I'm calling, this is what you run. And
that was the difference between Russell Wilson run. He had
his own opinions of what he wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
No doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
All right, a lot more coming up as we move
into the second half of Sunday Night Football. Gotta talk
Kyler Murray too, that's next. Yeah, deepening the night we go,
Week ten National Football League halftime of our watch party,
Sunday Night Football. Yeah, it hasn't been the best party
of our lives. But hey, it's not over yet. We

(01:20:46):
are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, going
through all the games, going through all the things we noticed,
all the things that we want to get off our chests,
and we are not done yet, such as this particular one.
And you and I have had this conversation. I think
a number of times through the years. The hardest spot

(01:21:07):
to be for an NFL team when it comes to
the quarterback position is the middle. I find it to
be the hardest thing, you know what I mean. Like
right now, if I'm running the New York Jets, I'm
not confused. I need a quarterback, no confusion at all.
If I'm the Kansas City Chiefs, I'm not confused. I

(01:21:27):
don't need a quarterback, not at all. It's the teams
in the middle who are like, you're kind of good,
like you can maybe sort of make the playoffs. You're
not gonna win a super Bowl, but you're a good

(01:21:47):
ish and you make us relevant. I'd argue that cost
the highest paid player in the league might be one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Of these guys name is Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
That it's a very hard place to be because I
get it. It woos you man, right, you're addicted to
the idea of gosh, if we write, if we just
we get him the offensive line and the play caller,
and the defense and the receivers, it can all work.
And there's been a lot of evidence of that this
year Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, etc.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
If we give him the right situation, this guy can
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
But a lot of times that leads to major, big
number contracts for guys who.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Just ain't it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
So is that where the Arizona Cardinals have arrived e
from what would you do?

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
And before you answer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
I have looked up the contract and the potential out
if you will from the contract comes in.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
That's where the club option sits that you can decline.
But prior to that, for instance, if the Cardinals, in
this rumor that's running around today that the Cardinals will
move on from Kyler Murray. At the end of the year,
the dead cap hit for twenty twenty six sits at

(01:23:16):
fifty seven point seven million dollars. That's your dead cap
hit goes way way down, way down to seven point
two million the year after that in twenty twenty seven.
So you can do this. Teams have done this. But
let's be honest. While Jacoby Brissette plays well, doesn't mean.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
He's the answer. No, he's not the guy he's right,
So what would you do?

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Uh, you'd have to move off. It's been a couple
of regimes there with Kyler. It's not working, So you'd
have to move off. You'd have to start the process
of trying to right the ship. And it starts with

(01:24:07):
positioning yourself in this upcoming draft to really draft the
guy that you want. And I'm speaking for the coaching
staff in the GM because they didn't draft Kyler Murray.
So you have to now steak your you know, stake
your flag or stick your flag, or stake your claim

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to that position because you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Will be tied.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
You don't want to go down on the sinking ship
that you didn't allow the passengers on. So this is
the moment where you got to be like, Okay, we're
going to take the hit, but I see a way
out of it. Similar to what Sean Payton did in
Denver with the Russell Wilson contract. They're eight and two,

(01:24:57):
two years removed, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
So that sort of makes it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
It makes it okay, Yeah, somebody's doing it, so you
can always point to look, look what they did.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Look what they did. However, that's the Denver Broncos. This
is the Arizona Cardinals. Those are two very very different
organizations historically. I'd also argue that if I were the
owner of the Cardinals, I'd be looking at this and
don't ever forget how the Cardinals came to get Kyler Murray.
They grabbed Kyler Murray number one overall a year after

(01:25:29):
they used a different top fifteen pick on a quarter back,
so they already sunk a bunch of money into a
QB and then decided, Nope, that's not our QB. Now
we're going to do this QB. I'm not done with
why this is so embarrassing. When they finally did get

(01:25:51):
to the time where it was like, all right, it's
extension time for our number one overall pick, Kyler Murray.
And I get it, they had gone to the playoffs
a nice ish year, but when they put that contract together,
what I still think, and I know why you're laughing,
this is the most embarrassing thing to me that has

(01:26:12):
ever happened in the world of quarterbacks and agents. The
fact that two things happened. One, the Cardinals felt it
necessary in signing this player that they needed to put
clauses within the contract ensuring that he would study instead
of play video games.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
That's wild business right there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Should tell you right then and there that that's not
the guy. To sign the guy. But then furthermore, it
went public. That has got to be the most embarrassing
thing that has ever happened to a big time QB
and his agent.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
In my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
And you see.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Those people are no longer with any.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Organization, correct, But Kyler is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
Look, it was there. You were too afraid to number one,
continue to let him play out that next year with
no extension, which they had the ability to, and you
could have got all the information you needed in that
next year. But since they you know, God on boy,

(01:27:25):
we can do it now, we can do it early.
You can't do it early if you're not sure. If
they're questions like is he watching enough film? You can't
sign the extension early? Does that make sense? That's simple.
You can't do that because now you're kind of second

(01:27:51):
guessing yourself as you're still jumping off the cliff, right,
I mean shit, we.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Are showing yeah now, I mean they made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
And and I never and we talked about this. I
never was a Kyler Murray fan. I thought he was
too small for the position. Yeah, he was exciting sometimes,
the jittery feed, and he can stend plays. And no, man, no, no, no, no,
that's not what I want at the quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
He's five nine, five ten.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
I don't even know he looks five five on an.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
NFL literally, And that's just to me that that didn't
seem like that was conducive to a long career of
health and prosperity, right, seis matters into something in some positions.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
I get it, though, because you know, I agree with
everything you're saying. And I still get it because so
often I think, what's the thought that ends up winning out?
Whenever you get to the Kyler Murray's and the Dak
Prescott's and the Derrek cars and we can go around

(01:29:10):
the league and probably find a few others. Right now, Tua,
do you know what the thought that happens when you
get to that guy is Okay, fine, that's not our guy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Who is. We're not in position to go draft someone.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
And this person has either just gone to the playoffs
or flirted with it, you know, Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
These guys are all the same.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
They're not bad, they're not awful when they're on the field,
and when things do go right, they do find themselves,
usually in the first round of the playoffs. Yeah, that's
where they find themselves. And then and sometimes something wonky
will happen, Trevor Lawrence, Jags Chargers, something ridiculous will happen,

(01:30:00):
and then you actually win that playoff game, and then
people really.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Get out of pocket. Well now we gotta right, fifty
five million?

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Here we go. Oh god, oh gosh, but I get it,
because you get overwhelmed by If not him, then what's
our plan?

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
Then you go, then that's what your whole staff is for.
It can't be Well, we don't know what to do,
so let's just do this. The other guys got fired
for that, didn't they They do so at this point,
I'm not hitching my my, my engine to that wagon.

(01:30:41):
I just I couldn't do it. I wouldn't be able
to do it. It's a million quarterbacks coming out this year.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Can you get your hands on them?

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
You will be able to get.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Your hands on them the way they trend and be
slided right in there to get one. What do they
have two wins?

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I think at three?

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Yeah, they get three. No, I understand that this time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
I'm talking about back when they oh, well no.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
The thing the thing back then is you can't. They
knew what they had and they took a shot thinking
that that would motivate him to get more professional.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Well, that's like having a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
You can never It's like giving a baby candy to
stop crying. Guess what that baby is going to continue
to do. You can't pay someone to be more professional.
It doesn't work like that. Well, you become more professional

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and then you get paid.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Then you get paid.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Yes, but it's also not It wasn't just about being
more professional.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
It's also about winning more football games.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
Yeah, but but it starts in the classroom for quarterback.
If you don't believe that your quarterback is watching film
of the defenses that they will face. That's a no go,
that's a oh we're no, we're good. That's now we're

(01:32:18):
gonna move on. And anybody who who if the owner
will why and who? Because of this?

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Can you force him? How?

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
How it's either in you or it's not. Now you can.
And you gotta remember this wasn't the first year. This
is what three years. They had been with him three years,
and he hadn't decided in the three years that hey,
I'm going to become a professional. So you paid him

(01:32:53):
fifty million dollars a year to not play video games
and look at film.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
No, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
All right, I'm gonna challenge you, though I agree with you,
but I'm gonna challenge you. Challenge me, okay, because you
want to know who's next, because this this comes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Up every few years.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
And I know for a lot of people that are
still having the Brock Party debate, they think he's part
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
And maybe, you know what, maybe he is, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Think championship really is this the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
But you know that a healthy portion of the population
that's what they think. And they're using mac Jones's performance
right now to be like, see the same guy, Okay,
fine whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Anyway, point is there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Is someone and it's not gonna be this offseason, but
it's gonna be next. Better be ready with your fancy
extension and I'll tell you what I'm talking about coming
up next, because I have a feeling you might see
this one a little bit differently, so we'll dive into

(01:34:01):
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Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
You find today's full show posted.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Right after we get off the air. But not done yet,
Chargers continue to lead twelve two three, twelve to three
over the Pittsburgh Stellers.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
All right, let's play a little something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Let's do it, Okay, quarterback one, I'm just other than
their career quarterback rating. I'm gonna spotlight the live last
two seasons, this season and last season. Okay, quarterback one
career QBR is ninety two point two. Career quarterback rating

(01:35:12):
ninety two point two over the last two seasons, twenty
seven touchdowns against fourteen interceptions about two to one, and
their team's record in their starts ten wins, twelve losses,

(01:35:35):
and a completion percentage of just north of sixty seven percent.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Quarterback one, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Quarterback two, career quarterback rating ninety three point seven, only
one point higher. Instead of a ten team record of
ten and twelve, the team's record is thirteen and twelve.
Instead of a completion percentage at north of sixty seven,

(01:36:13):
you're looking at something that's more in the neighborhood of
about sixty four and a half. Oh. In that touchdown
interception ratio that was about two to one for quarterback one. Yeah,
quarterback two, thirty one touchdowns seventeen interceptions.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
So give or take its same ish.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
About the same? Does that sound like the same ish guy?
I mean, these are just numbers, so like they don't
tell the whole story. But does that sound yeah? Pretty comparable?

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
Comparable?

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Okay, Quarterback one's Kyler Murray.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Who do you think Quarterback two is Jordan Love? Nope,
it's c J. STROUDJ Stroud and CJ will be next.
CJ is next. In terms of.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
The sort of I've got the job, there are no questions.
I am the man and now I'm up for do
you want to do one of these fifty to sixty
million dollars per year extensions to keep me as the
quarterback of the Houston Texans. If my math is accurate,

(01:37:29):
that conversation happens.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
After next season.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
This is only year three and he's a first round
draft pick, so it happened after year four, right, So
rest of this year whatever that entails, and next year
and then you make that decision on CJ. Stroud? What
would you do right now? If you were the Texans?
I think you got to keep CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
The difference is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
The two years he started, they've won playoff games.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
He has played four playoff games in his career. Kyler
has only played one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
And he's two and two. Yep, that's correct. That's a
huge difference.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
There's no doubt, there's no.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Doubt and the vacuum are the void of talent that
c J. Stroud has had to deal with in Houston
number one last year to you losing every single person
who would gain a yard with a ball in their hand,

(01:38:36):
and still dragging a team to the playoffs, never having
a good offensive line, and still dragging a team to
the playoffs. And so, in my opinion, I haven't seen
Kyleer Murray do any of that, or even come close
to that, or even show any semblance of leadership. That's

(01:39:00):
another thing. The leadership component CJ has it. They put
into it Kyler's contract. Stop playing call of duty and
start watching football, right, two completely different trajectories in my opinion,

(01:39:29):
completely different.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
I could not agree with you more. However, what if
we kind of zoom out And by the way, fifty
nine yard field goal is good for Cameron Dicker, he
is a kicker and the charger.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Fifteen to three.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
I've extended the lead to fifteen to three on what
appeared to be I actually don't even know, but it
appeared to be a beautiful, like six yard drive.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
But anyway, if you zoom.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Out from this conversation, because now we're zoomed in if
you zoom out, there's no question to me, Am I
taking CJ. Stroud over Kyler Murray in a vacuum? Absolutely? However,
what if I asked it this way? Are you putting CJ.
Stroud in the same bucket that we just put a

(01:40:20):
bunch of other guys, Doc Prescott, all of these guys
who you say, I can be relevant with you. I
can be a decent team with you. I can surround
you with a bunch of stuff, and we might make
the playoffs, could win a division here or there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
But let's be real, I'm not winning the whole dance.
And maybe that's too or earlief for that conversation with CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Maybe, but I think there's a healthy debate there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I don't know if that looks like somebody who over
if I'm gonna sign this guy to five years and
two hundred and seventy five million dollars in an age
where the AFC has got Mahomes and Allen and Jackson
and Burrow and Herbert and others coming up? Am I

(01:41:19):
expecting over those five years to actually crush it and
make the playoffs consistently during that time?

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
I mean, it's first two years of starting, he's made
the playoffs every time. This is true, So I mean
I don't and won a playoff game in both years.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Yes, now with no help, the fight back would be
in a woefully joke of a division. Okay, Like would
he be making the playoffs if for those five years?
Then let's say, starting in two years, I stick the
Texans in the AFC East, Yeah, up.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Against Josh Allen and Drake May. Can he making the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Can you do that?

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
Because if you say, well, if I stick him over here,
then I can say, all right, then you stick them
with Justin Jefferson, then you stick them with sure, uh,
stick them with Justin Jefferson and stick him with uh, let's.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
Go with Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Then yes, okay, okay, then yes, yes you can like I.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
All I'm not. I'm not here to tell you because
to me, it's early.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Oh yeah, it is early.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
He's he's suffering from some injuries that are out of.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
His controls getting annihilated.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Yes, his offensive line is a disaster. And I don't
care who you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Are, and has been since he's been in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
I'm a look, you're gonna look bad. You're gonna look
bad behind that offense.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
Remember Andrew Luck was dragging the Coats to the playoffs
and getting his head knocked off.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
I mean it convinced him to leave football.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Yes, but that was the talent. That was the talent.
And like I said, c J.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
Stroud's first two years, he's gone to the second round
of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
These are facts. These are facts.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
That's just I mean, that's what you that's the goal
you set at the beginning of the year. Win a division,
which he's done twice, and make it go to the
playoffs and win a playoff game, which he's done twice.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
You could argue that he drags the Texans around the
same way Breede Euro drags.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Us around through That would be accute.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Could you can make that argument.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:43:56):
Do I really drag you guys around? It's because of that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Huh Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
I've got dirt all over my back just just being
dragged through this evening.

Speaker 8 (01:44:08):
I'm sorry. Yeah, I miss Steve two you guys, I
really do aga.

Speaker 7 (01:44:12):
He is currently at the Charters Steelers game.

Speaker 8 (01:44:15):
Cameron Dicker with that fifty nine RC. Steve wouldn't mess
that up, as I just did right now.

Speaker 7 (01:44:22):
Because it said sixty one on my thing, but it
said fifty three on the TV, so that's great.

Speaker 8 (01:44:29):
The Chargers somewhere it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
Was a long field goal.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
It was long.

Speaker 7 (01:44:33):
It wasn't like a cam little like Jaguars, you know,
crazy field goal like that.

Speaker 8 (01:44:37):
But Camera Dicker is incredible.

Speaker 7 (01:44:38):
The Chargers are on top of the Steelers fifteen to three,
less than six minutes to go in the third quarter.
Earlier today, the Patriots beat the Bucks twenty eight to
twenty three. They're calling it the Brady Bowl, which I
think is really cute.

Speaker 8 (01:44:51):
The Patriots, they swept the NFC South.

Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
Speaking of my Saints, they went four and oh and
they completely swept the entire NFC South. They improved to
eight and two on the year. They've won seven straight
in are in first place in the AFC East. Speaking
of the Saints, they upset the Panthers seventeen to seven.
Tyler Shuck with his first career win. New Orleans snapped
a four game losing streak. You guys are talking about

(01:45:14):
the AFC South. The Texans scored twenty six unanswered points
to take down the Jags thirty six to twenty nine.
Davis Mills threw for two hundred and ninety two yards
and two touchdown passes in the final quarter. The Seahawks
dominated the Cardinals forty four to twenty two. DeMarcus Lawrence
returned two fumbles for touchdowns in the first half, and
the Rams improved to seven to two after knocking off

(01:45:37):
the forty nine Ers forty two to twenty six. The
new AP College Football Top twenty five pole came out.
No new like total changes, but Texas is back in
the top ten and now the ACC has five teams
ranked for the first time this season.

Speaker 8 (01:45:53):
So this was one guy. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Thank you, well here any time, thank you as well
as well bred. Thank you so much. Premur right here
on Fox Sports Radio alongside Mark with it Di forslam
liive in the Fox Sports Radio studios. And yes there's
a long field goal and it has created what feels

(01:46:16):
in this moment like an insurmountable twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Point lead for the San Diego Chargers.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
Wow. Did you see that pass and Afarence? It just happened?

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
Yes, I sure did.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Look what didn't call it? Listen?

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Dude's crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
Dude, Okay, I had a couple of things I want
to throw at you stupid stuff. Can we do stupid
stuff for five minutes? Stupid stuff for five minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Do you yell at your electronics.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
Only if I'm playing video games?

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
So when you're and I know that maybe it's a
little bit different.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
You have some fandom, your former players, different your media personality,
Like you don't You're not like face paint guy for
any NFL. Right, brother, I don't know. I don't know
when the refs do the dang thing like what you
just saw there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
How to keep my wits about me and not scream
at the electronics. And you got three kids who are
sitting there and they're used to it, and they do too, right,
they're fans also, they want to know what's going on.
I got my wife telling me every time, She's like,

(01:47:35):
do you know that they got that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
First down because you encouraged them to? Do you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
That's why they were able to get ten yards on
that play? Is because you clapped your hands and yelled
let's go boys right before the play. That's why they
got it. They heard you, good job, honey, Like this
is what's happening in.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
The living room.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
I'm trying to like I'm yelling at the electronics he
from the officials about a weird day to day in
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
Like, I don't even like that call on Sunday Night
football is the safety came down.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
It just obliterated DK Metcalf.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
As the ball was in the air though, like I mean,
just good lords, Like I mean, he hit him like
he was carrying the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
An unmissible call. That is an unmissible call. DK Metcalf,
for those referees, represents probably one of the largest human
beings that has ever run by them in their lives.

(01:48:50):
And somebody obliterated.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Him again and Derwin James nothing, He came up and
hit him like he was well carry.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
You get the five yard job.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
DK starts on the line of scrimmages the nineteen yard
line and DK it just gets absolutely tossed to the
turf at the twenty eight. That's nine yards downfield. The
ball is in the air. That's not a like I mean,
he just threw his shoulder into his chest. That was

(01:49:24):
pretty bad. And on we go to punting.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
On we go next series.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
I have another dilemma I want to throw at you.
It's actually not a dilemma. It's all been taken care of,
but I want to know what you would have done.
So check this out, little guys. As I've told you,
the middle school kids, they got their own little fantasy league.
And this is kind of my fault. But when this
started a year ago, I told all the dads who
are like at that age, They're like, you know, we're

(01:49:53):
driving everybody to the draft their kids, and like, you know,
we're just putting, you know, a piece of candy on
the line or something like, no big deal, We're just
here for some camaraderie, get the boys together, have some food, whatever.
But I told him, I go, you know where this
is heading, right, I go, you know, next year, after
the kids draft, probably should do the dad's draft.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
And so that has come to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
And now we've got twelve or thirteen, you know, forty
and fifty year old dudes who have this league that
we're just sort of, you know, we're messing around, having fun.
Well I'm kind of I'm not the commissioner, but I'm
kind of like the commissioner's help, because the commissioner doesn't
really know a whole lot about fantasy football because his

(01:50:45):
they host the draft, his wife is the hostess with
the mostest and he's just he's like, yeah, I'll do it.
I'm like, great, because I don't have the bandwidth for this,
But anytime he's got a question, he comes to me.
So he comes to me today and he's like, hey,
we got a trade that just went down in the
league and I need to ask you about it. And

(01:51:09):
I'm like, sure, fire away, and he goes, two guys
got together, mind you. These are two men in their fifties,
and they traded Isaiah Davis running back for the Jets,
for Jamiir Gibbs.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
No shot, nope, nope, nope.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
So the Commissioner's like, I got ste veto that, right, yes,
And I said, of course you do. And the dude
that was getting Gibbs sends five emails and goes, I
didn't even know you had Ve. Like, we're two adults,
and I've always been in favor of that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
I'm like, there shouldn't be vetos of trades.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
No, because like you're two adults if you both but
also because in my mind, I'm like, two fifty year
olds are not going to collude over over four dollars
or a beer.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
What I go, Sorry, they're colluding.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
I mean, the guy who gave up Gibbs played completely
like yeah, I didn't even know kind of what was
really going on, Like I just.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
He got was getting hustled.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
He played yeah, he played kind of chilly, and the
guy getting.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Gibbs just like what what?

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Like that's why this exactly right?

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
I go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
If you can just explain to us what's in it
for the guy getting Davis, then you're adults and you
can do whatever you want. I go. Maybe you're Isaiah
Davis's cousin and you want him on your team super
real bad. If you do great, you get him. I go.
But outside of that, you're gonna have to tell me
what the hell's going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
So I thought I thought i'd get your perspective on that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Well in the end, because I called him out on
it and he's like, well, I just re offer somebody
else for Jamiir Gibbs.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Some are others, well, he offered Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
I go, Now that now we got to act.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Now you guys are adults and you can do whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:53:16):
Yeah, because you those both would be someone's number one pick,
the best thing, the first round pick.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Thank you, the best thing was one of the emails.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
Guy goes listen, I lost a couple of my running
backs and Gibbs has been struggling lately. So you know,
I went to my guy here and said, you know,
I'll take Gibbs. He's been struggling lately. And I said,
what red zone have you been watching? That dude scored

(01:53:53):
at least one touchdown almost every game that he's played
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Period, and today you have like a hundred of them.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Yeah, he had like, Oh, we're gonna need.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
To We're gonna need to tuck this out. We're gonna
tuck this one out.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Fifty five yard field goal to temp. Here we go,
bring fifty five yards.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Cameron Dicker, he's a kicker and he and he ooh
dink he doinked it. Yeah, that's okay. It's an insurmountable
fifteen to thank you all. Right back with some final thoughts.
That's e from my Mark's Fox Sports Radio. We're hanging

(01:54:35):
out in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
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pop up at the top of your screen. Hey, broad view,
question that maybe we can kind of thread this over
a number of weeks, because you know we're gonna be
hanging out here for another five minutes or so.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
So, but I wonder if.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
There's some sort of a larger body health injury thing
that we need to discuss in all of this is
and this is only inspired by for example, I was
sitting here kind of grinding on a few things in
this football game, and Gad's Din, the young tight end
for the Chargers, is one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
I've got him in.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
A league or two and he's now in the locker
room with a knee injury. I don't even know what
the severity of it is, but whatever, that's not even
the point. He's just the next up, and injuries in
football are that's not a thing, right, Like, I get it,
that's that's all the time. But it does seem like
everybody I know is just whatever their team is it's

(01:56:06):
feeling almost at times.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
Overwhelmed by injury.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Now take it to the NBA, where so many teams
do not put their guys on the field every night.
I'm in on the court, always lean in the area
of caution.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
The whole load management conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Steve Kerr came on our show last week and was
saying kind of backing the idea of load management, pointing
out two things. One, the pace of the game is
so much different now. Back the era of the Showtime Lakers,
they were the fastest paced team in the NBA. If
you put the Showtime Lakers in this NBA the slowest

(01:56:51):
team by far. Plus guys now shoot from twenty eight
feet away.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
So your court coverage is suggesting that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Basically being in the NBA is much harder now, much
more physical job than it used to be. And that's
counterintuitive because it's not as like, you know, Bill Ambier
is not punching you anymore. Anyway, I say all that
to ask that larger question of like, where is player
availability going in twenty twenty five and beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
For basketball or football?

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Are both all I mean all there? Obviously there's idiosyncracies
to both, but yeah, for all of it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
Well, I mean, if it's going the way where you're rested,
you got to extend the rosters then, right, if you
are going to rest players, you have to extend your rosters.
Can be twelve guys, they can suit up and in football,

(01:57:59):
I mean, wow, I was a self preservation throw right
there by Aaron Rodgers. He did not want to get bore,
ugly man.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
Okay, but it's it's what you go for this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
Wou'd you go for this?

Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
What'd you go for it?

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Fourth and six?

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
You have to, I mean, yeah, you're down by twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
Yeah, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:58:23):
Yes, matter of fact, I would have ran the ball
there because I was going for it on fourth down.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
Yeah, yeah, fair, Okay, go as you were.

Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
You got to extend rosters. And for NBA they played
four games a week. You could say what you want
about the game being faster and all that. Athletes are
big or strong and faster. That's why the game's faster,
all right, No matter they went forward and didn't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
So there's that. All of those things are true.

Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
Yes, the game is faster, the athletes are faster, the
pay as faster as it should be.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Evolution is a real thing.

Speaker 4 (01:59:05):
Now you got six nine guys, you got the seven
to five guy running point, forward, center, guard, shooter, whatever.
So yes, the game is going to change. Just sitting
players out and not having them play as many games?

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
Is that a thing?

Speaker 4 (01:59:24):
Are we going away from eighty two games and right
around seventy? That way you don't have so many back
to bags or you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
Know, well that that would fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
But no one's paying for that, no, right, the owners
are not giving up the money.

Speaker 4 (01:59:38):
No, And we want to see the games. We want
to see the people play, right, Look, you're a professional athlete,
so you could be working at the DMV. Just go play.
If you've played ten or more years, then yes, yes

(02:00:00):
you have that warranteering your body okay in both sports.
But other than that, hey man, suit up, let's go
what we got.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
You work in a DMV, you can really take your time.
I mean that's what it seems like. Anyway, great show, Buden,
talk to you again next week. Freight from Salam I'm
Mark Willard.

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