Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam React To The Chiefs Vs Texans On SNF, Daniel Jones Out For The Year, Ravens Got Screwed Over, Kevin Stefanski Hot Seat, And More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, right, That's
what Week fourteen in the National Football League it's all about.
I'm gonna start tonight by wishing each and every one
of you a happy Fantasy football make the Playoffs day.
That's that's what I wish for you. I wish you
all made it. About half of you didn't make it,

(00:22):
About half of you did. Some of you woke up
today knowing that some of you didn't. But that's what
today was all about. We got snow on the ground,
we're getting late in the game, you're getting holiday shopping done.
And today was make the Playoffs Day. I hope, I
hope you all made it. Did you make it?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well, I'm in five leagues, same, same, and so the
answer to that is yes, I made it.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yes, probably some yes and some no. But we like
now is when we focus on the yes. And those other.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Leagues I didn't want to be in them anyway, So
I'm saying I was forced to be stupidly anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Broadcasts a live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and
got NFL coming out the wazoo in a very very large,
playoff implication filled game that's about to get going here.
In about fifteen to twenty minutes, we'll do our watch party.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
We'll be all over it.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
But oddly and maybe surprisingly, Ephraim, I've really been waiting
all day to get your thoughts on this because I
want to start with something that is not anfl because
it is an annual tradition in the month of December
that I and I love sports.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I work hard in order to make sure that sports.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Doesn't like make me angry, because that's kind of not
what I'm doing here. So like, I'll be frustrated disappointed
if my teams don't do well, but I'm here for
the fun and all the good stuff that this stuff brings.
But every December there's a day at least one where
I get mad.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I get mad, and today is that day.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
And the reason is And actually it was my son
who sort of gave me the impetus for this conversation
because he woke up this morning and he grabs his
phone and he goes, dad, let's see who made it.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Let's see who made the college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
And this is my annual anger because that is and
I don't understand for the life of me, why America
hasn't put together more of a fight about this. It
is literally the most anti sport thing that happens in
all of sport, where we wake up to find out

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who decided to put somebody in I hate it. I
literally cannot stand it. We go to bed screaming about
Bama and Miami and Notre Dame and this, that the other,
and we wake up and find out what people decided
to do.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Can't send it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, as much as we were hoping that they got
this thing right with the expansion and so on and
so forth, they have not.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
And you're absolutely right when you say the people are
the ones who make this unbearable. It really is a
situation where you're like, Okay, how did you do that?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
And I'm sort of arrived at a spot where I
don't even care. It's like, you're right, how'd you do that?
But I'm still stuck on the why why are we
doing this? Can you imagine if we woke up at
the end of three weeks from now, it'll be week seventeen,
week eighteen, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Four weeks from now, we're to wake up the next
day to find out who made the NFL playoffs. I
wonder if they put the Bears in.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Can you imagine that's that's because everything is a spectacle,
everything is everything is ratings. We must tune in and
we must watch this thing. And I mean, for the
life of me, how does Alabama make it?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's embarrassing how especially when that's your last impression was
yesterday getting blown off of the field, Like, how does
that happen?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Well, you know how it happens exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I wonder what station the college football playoffs are on.
I also wonder what station has the rights to the
huh SEC. Okay, okay, so you know for me, I'm like, yeah,

(05:09):
I don't know, man, you know, maybe maybe I don't
know enough. But a three lost team makes it a
three lost team.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
The odd thing is is, if you do look around
in sports, I think the sports fans in our country
have shown that they're willing to deal with weird rules.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
In other words, somebody's going to win the NFC South.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And we're fine with that person hosting a playoff game
Week one.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
There's three teams in the NFC West that have nine
or more wins.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
But somebody over the NFC South is gonna win.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
That silly thing and and they get a home playoff game.
But those are the rules, and we know that before
the year starts. Rules here, So whoever grabs that weird rule,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
There's all kinds of weird rules we deal with.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
If you fumble through the end zone, wow, the other
team gets the ball and may get it all the
way out there. There's weird rules. But if we know
what they are, we will deal with them. But if
we make them up as we go, well then then
I from I would have made the playoffs in all
of my fantasy leagues because I had just been like, actually,
turns out whoever loses the most games is in everyone's in,

(06:36):
which just let's just make it up as we go,
and nobody likes that that's it, and and that college
football is so great, it's so popular, it's got so
many different things going for it. I just am one
who has never been able to wrap my head around
that part.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, you know, shout out to Tulane and James Madison, yep,
making it and I hope they win.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Oh my god, I love this. That'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh that'd be in the quarterfinals and in the finals.
Oh what if Julane beats Georgia in the quarterfinals.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I could my go could not be rooting harder for it.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
James Madison beat Texas Tech. Oh God, that'd be amazing,
right right.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
But I like, I just that's all I'd like to see.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I don't really I went to Colt Poly Sandlos abisball.
I've got no dog in this fight. My brother in
law is a coach at Lehigh. I want to shout
them out. They went undefeated as an FCS school this year,
but then after a bye, they got bounced yesterday in
the first round their first playoff game in a hard fought,

(07:48):
defensive battle against Villanova, and they lost fourteen to seven,
and they got they got knocked out. But these these playoffs,
I just I gotta think similar to what FCS does,
although even that I know there is a decision making process.

(08:09):
I just think there's enough smart people and there's plenty
of money.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
There's plenty of money to go around.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Doing it this way where you just create the guidelines
going in and then whoever plays to those guidelines, that's
what we do, and then that way we know what's
going to happen. When we go to bed last night,
we know I know the Packers are in first place
right now in the NFC North. I don't need to
wake up tomorrow find out who somebody thought looked better

(08:38):
or who's financially invested in Chicago because it's a bigger
market than Green Bay, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
M Yeah, that would that would suck, right, that would
that would be a travesty. It was such a great
sports weekend. I mean, oh man, amazing. You know, as
mad as we get, it's been an amazing sports weekend
across all sports, you know. And so I think this

(09:10):
is gonna be a great show, a lively show. I
think that we got a lot to talk about about
today's action. Say you love it. This league is something else.
But the thing I love is there's a lot on

(09:30):
the line. Everything is on the line. We saw it
in the Thursday night game where you know, it was
like it's all do or die. This is what you
want coming down the stretch. You want to be in
a situation where every every game matters, right, So you

(09:57):
don't ever want five games on week of the NFL
where who cares, especially coming down into December January, that's
when these games really matter. So you don't ever want
to be in a situation where you're just like, oh,
you know, not not invested as a fan.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Although even the Browns Titans game had some intro that
was amazing.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Even that game had something, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, just guess what if she do? It is not
in that game. We're not even no one's launching that game. No, correct, right, correct.
We already know the relationship between Shadu and cam Ward
and we found that out as they're going through this
process of preparing for the draft and their relationship and
their great friends, and they have different approaches on how
they want their careers to go. So that added storyline

(10:45):
was was was tremendous, tremendous game. But you go back
to the Thursday game and the Cowboys and Alliance. I
mean that was do or die. Yes, that was do
or die, especially for the Cowboys. And they did and
they died.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yes, yeah they didn't and they didn't and they died
yeah probably and probably.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
And so there's like a four chances that, you know,
something miraculous can happen or whatever. But you want that,
you want those type of games. You want you know,
the Packers and the Bears. You want this game here
the Chiefs Texans, right, you want the Coats, the Jaguars,
you want the Steelers, the Ravens, all of those games.

(11:33):
Those are the Bills in the Bengals. How great was
that game?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
I mean with especially with the backdrop.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I mean, you're everybody's north of thirty and everyone's playing
in snow, man, come on, and those two quarterbacks going
back and forth. I mean that it was all I thought,
like I was watching you know, NFL's greatest games, right,
because I'm so bad, right, I've seen that exact scenario
in the playoffs, and Joe Burrow won that one, and

(12:01):
I thought Joe Burrow was gonna win this one again too.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
And then the Bills did.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Their little thing where they hit that little button and
they go into hyper speed there in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
And so anyway, yeah, it was all great.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
And again another message to college football, because I know
college football loves to create a controversy. We come out
of these NFL games today and even though there are
rules in place, we still got controversy because guess what,
Number one, one of the hot teams this entire year
in the NFL now suddenly has a quarterback situation, not

(12:37):
only now, but into the future.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
And there's a fair debate about what they should do.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
And I'd like to reinstate something for the one thousandth
time in our lives.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Eve from I again don't know what a catch is.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I'm perplexed.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Can we talk about that? Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Can we talk about that? So let's do that? Coming
up next? Well, if you don't know which game we're
talking about, we'll fill you in.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The Texans and Chiefs are just about to get going.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
As he From said, there is an absolute polpoery for
us to work through and it all starts now with
it from Salama, Mark Wheelard, good evening to you.

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Speaker 4 (14:37):
So I thought Lamar looked a little better today, a
little better. He ran one in.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
He was able to He's still not Lamar, but he
was able to move the ball and he was able
to buy himself more time.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
And that Steelers Ravens game with first.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Place on the line was really a fun watch. For
those of you who did not see it, This is
the best way I can describe it. The Ravens are
down by five late in the game. Call it maybe
about I'd have to look it up. Three four minutes
left to go in the game. They still got all
their time out, so this wasn't necessarily a do or

(15:19):
die drive yet. But the Ravens are down five, and
they bring the ball down fairly deep into Pittsburgh territory
and Lamar hits Isaiah likely yep, great throw, likely goes up,
does not bring the ball into his body, just catches
it with that you know, you make the diamond with

(15:40):
your hands there, and he catches it with the ball
out and holds it out and holds it out away from.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Him because the defender was on his back at it right,
and so.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
The defenders got his arms up kind of from behind,
likely trying to get up there and dislodge the ball.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Likely holds it out in front of him.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
He has possession of.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
He's got the ball in both hands, and it is
one foot hit down.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Two feet, two feet hit down.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Three feet hit down, and then defender is able to
reach around and knock the ball out.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
And apparently that was incomplete.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh goodness, and.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
The only way I can because we do this at
least once a year.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
What's a catch and the whole.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Like he's got to complete the process of the catch.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
But he never went down. There was no hitting the
ground in the ball coming out. He just stayed on
his feet.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
And the only way I can think about this ephem
is had that not been in the end zone, would
you have called it a fumble?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
That was the only way that my brain.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Could try to process what was going on, because if
you would have called it a fumble, then that means
he had possession, and if you have possession in the
end zone, then the play is immediately over and it's
a touchdown. I don't know how that would not have
been called a fumble if it was out at the

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twenty yard line, because it was one step, two step,
three step, and then in the process of lunging for
the fourth step, the ball comes out. So and if
you don't know, the Ravens did get the ball back
one more time, it was already too late.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
They did not score. The Steelers are in first place.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Now, look shout out to the Steelers. That was a
heck of a game. Yes, throwback game to what the
Steelers and the Ravens battles used to be. And you're
absolutely right when you talk about that Isaiah likely touchdown
that should have been the rule in the end zone
is different than in the regular field of play, because

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all you have to do is have possession with two
feet down as you cross the goal line. Correct, That's
all you need there is what do you're surviving. You've
caught the ball, You've run three steps across the goal line.

(18:09):
That is a touchdown. Now they went and reviewed it
and talked to New York and chimed in and all
of that, and they overturned it, which you know, affected
the outcome of that game. And you know, for me,
I just I don't like to see it happen like that.
I don't like when refs interject themselves and pivotal moments

(18:35):
and things like that. And I get it, I understand,
but it can't be like that. And no, one is
not just the officials on the field, it's the ones
in the booth, the people at New York, whoever was

(18:57):
chiming in and talking about it. And it's a gross
dereliction of duty in my opinion. Yep, that's how I
feel about that. I think it was so poorly adjusted
and officiated that there is something that's why we're talking.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
About it, no doubt, no doubt, there's.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Something put in place, especially that point in the game
for you to get the call right it was a
scoring place or was reviewed. It's automatically we're supposed to
get the call right, and when you don't, it puts
a bad taste in everybody's well.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
And I got admit.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I was on Red Zone when I was watching it,
and as they're sitting there kind of like going crazy
over it, you know, the announcers are like, I mean,
jim Nantz is like, you can't believe this.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
They're going to call this incomplete?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, they were like what are they waiting on?

Speaker 4 (19:53):
What are we doing? Right?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
And so then boom here comes Jene's territor and he's
the rules analyst, and all all I hear Sterotor say
is he goes, now, guys, you gotta remember that you
have to complete. And then Red Zone goes to another
game like right, because they don't.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Red Zone's not here for talking. We're not.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
We got to get to the end.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, we got it, like somebody else is playing.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So they left, and I wanted to know what Sterotor
had to say, But I think I know what he
was gonna say, which is that whole prob the idea
of completing the process of the catch, but the idea
of completing the process to the catch.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
If you ask a fan.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Or any eyeballs to sort of understand that when you
say complete the process of the catch, I think we
think of that as either going to the ground or
going out of bounds, Like as you fall down, do
you continue to possess the ball? We don't think like
if you're just running across the middle and you catch

(21:00):
a ball and you keep your feet right, what is
the where's the process?

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Seems to be infinite? When's the process over? How many
steps does the guy need to take?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Right to say, if he caught it and ran all
the way to the sideline to celebrate, and then the
defender hits it out of his hand and is it
did he not bring it to his body? Or it
gets to a situation where you know, you just don't
you scratch your head because, like I said, these things
are put in place, the system is put in place
for you to understand just exactly how to get these

(21:33):
calls right exactly, and you know, it just reeks. I
don't like it. It was such a pivotal moment in
the game, a lot on the line, the division lead
playoff spots, all of these things. Uh, and they got
it wrong, and it's up to us to get it right.
And by getting it right, we go right to Steve

(21:53):
the Seger right at the time, it's muted.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
I got it. Okay, let me unmute here right, okay, the.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Time make a football move or a football move.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's the element right there that they are ruling.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
He did not finish the four.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
Furniament, so it's not going upfield. We saw all the
other elements. Seem like it catch to you and me.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I'm in that world.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I bet everybody could come up immediately with the flaw
in the logic of what Jane just said. I don't
need to make a football move. I'm in the end zone. Gene,
where would you like me to go? There is no
football move in man zone. Move to get into the
end zone.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Football move is spike the ball right rights.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
I don't need to go upfield.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
We're done here, like, oh, frustrating, sorry, frustrating.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
And this is Pittsburgh at Baltimore matchup where the teams
were tied for first in the AFC North. Here we
are in December. Pittsburgh wins twenty seven to twenty two.
DK Metcalf seven catches one hundred and forty eight yards.
Steelers has a team seventeen carries thirty four yards rushing.
Baltimore had forty carries two hundred and seventeen yards rushing,

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and Baltimore loses at home to go to six and seven.
The Ravens on red zone tds were two for six.
It is scoreless in the early minutes at Kansas City
Chiefs hosting the Houston Texans, temperatures in the twenties for
that game, Chiefs were already missing three offensive linemen make
it four, Janye Morris injured and they would not show
the replay of the leg injury on the first play

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of the night.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
Denver won its tenth straight game twenty four seventeen at
Las Vegas Raiders now two and eleven. Great stat from
Associated Press. This is how bad the offensive line has
been for the Raiders. I could say something like you
know yet again Ashton gent ten carries only thirty yards,
but no. For the first thirteen games, the team has

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managed to rush for under seventy five yards a game,
and at the same time, the line is giving up
over fifty total sacks to have those two things happen
with the same line at the same time. Your first
thirteen games since the merger in nineteen seventy had only
happened with two teams, and one was the expansion Cleveland

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Browns in nineteen ninety nine. Happened with the Dolphins in
twenty nineteen. And that's the season for these Raiders so far.
By the way, we did have Cleveland in action at
losing at home in the snow against Tennessee thirty one
twenty seven the Titans and a seven game losing streak.
But important to some, including one man named Miles Garrett,

(24:31):
another sack. You know he might be setting the sack
record for a team that's just got awful. How about
this straight from the NFL. With the sack he picked
up today, Miles Garrett has set the league record most
career sacks in games in which his team lost.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Oh god, oh no, that's the Bulldorm record. That's like
the most minor league home runs of all times.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
That's exactly what that is.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
I remember the gim Nance comment a couple of weeks ago,
like this has no effect on the game. Just keep
losing games. Bruce Smith in losses in his great career,
had sixty four sacks, and Leslie O'Neill, longtime charger, in
his great career, had sixty three sacks in over one
hundred losses. Miles Garrett has topped those two with sacks,

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but he's done it in only seventy seven losses, not
one hundred, not one hundred and thirty like the other guys.
In a way, it's kind of impressive. Actually, Cleveland loses
to Tennessee, and can I point out that while we
had the superb winter Wonderland to watch of the Buffalo
home game and the snow all day, Buffalo beat Cincinnati.

(25:41):
As you mentioned thirty nine thirty four, it snowed all
day at Cleveland and no wight on the field. The
reason is it's a heated field and Buffalo is not
into its new stadium yet they're still in the old
decrepit still beloved place for one more month and then
they're heading next door to the new stadium. Green Bay Beach, Chicago,

(26:02):
twenty eight, twenty one. Caleb Williams through an interception in
the end zone with under thirty seconds left. It came
on a fourth and one from the fourteen. The Rams
look great, again. I think we can just flush last
weekend with the three turnovers. I know there's more than
one team that can go to the Super Bowl. You
can say here at this point a month away, my goodness,

(26:22):
could the Rams be in the Super Bowl this season?
They're ten and three forty five seventeen. At Arizona tonight,
it seemed they were going to score on every drive.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
They could have.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
Matthew Stafford three touchdown passes, two to Puka Nakua, who
had seven catches one hundred and sixty seven yards. Among
the earlier games, Jacksonville beat Indianapolis thirty six to nineteen.
Colts quarterback Daniel Jones limped off with a torn Achilles.
Road wins for Miami and Seattle and for New Orleans,
which won at Tampa Bay twenty four to twenty. Minnesota

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sent Washington to an eighth straight loss, thirty one to nothing.
Coming up Monday night, the Chargers are hosting the Eagles.
It's looking like quarterback Justin Herbert might play despite a
broken left hand. He had yet to take any snaps
from under center in practice, so that's one thing. The
college football playoff final rankings came out today for the
first time in AP history. Indiana football is number one

(27:16):
in the country.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
We'll start with.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
That at thirteen and zero. Top four get first round
by so Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia, and Texas Tech are
your top four. Number five Oregon will host James Madison
in the first round. Number six Old Miss will host Tulane.
Ole Miss clobber TWU Lane in September forty five to ten.
A and M hosts Miami in a first round playoff game,

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and that winner will then go up against Ohio State.
Notre Dame was not selected, neither was Duke or BYU.
Oklahoma will host number nine Alabama in a first rounder,
with that winner going to the Rose Bowl against Indiana.
Pretty Much every bowl matchup is set, including the Aztecs
of San Diego State headed to Albuquerque for the New

(28:00):
Mexico Bowl date against a good North Texas team. That's
one of the many bowl games on the final Saturday
of December. In fact, on that day, the Pinstripe Bowl
Yankee Stadium will have Penn State Clemson, and then right
after that the Fenway Bowl in Boston with Yukon against Army.
San Diego's Holiday Bowl this year will be on January,

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tewod that will have SMU against Arnie Spaniards Arizona Wildcats,
who he is constantly searching for and I mean this
searching for in the top twelve in the country nowhere
to be found.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, now, yeah, one of these years.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, thank you, Steve. And by the way, to your
Rams point, you know it's crazy. I don't think anybody
would argue with your eye test point and the Rams
with by virtue of the Bears loss.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Today, the Rams.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Are the rightful owner of the one seed in the
NFC and they have that, look, don't they They sure do.
They're also they're also a game out of third place.
The team that's in third place currently has the tiebreaker
over them, and in the next ten days they will

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play both the Lions and the Seahawks.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
So their tiebreaker over Seattle head to head could mean nothing.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
It could mean nothing. They could.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
Like my point is bad is that their NFC conference
record isn't good. People like the Niners are just killing it,
a killing the conference.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
The Rams have lost three already in the conference and
two very difficult conference battles in these next I guess
they should say eleven days. But yes, they host the
Lions next Sunday. Then they've got a Thursday date in
Seattle this time of year, that won't be easy. They've
they've like wrapped up nothing. I mean, they'll go to

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the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Well, look at the Bears. They went from one to
seven in the span.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Of one terrible call.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So you know, those who want parody in the NFL,
you got it, I got it.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
What a great year.

Speaker 7 (30:08):
We didn't even mention the AFC. I mean, if the
Chargers lose, they could miss the playoffs entirely. If Houston's
playing tonight could pass them. I mean, it's really bunched up.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
And then and then there's these Chiefs who Patrick Mahomes
and I agree with him, said at the end of
the loss last week, we can't do any more losing.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
That's it. That's it. We're dormy. So we better go
on a five game win streak right now.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
The bad news is, with no offensive line, is this
going to be the Chiefs team that we kept seeing
in the losing Super Bowls where all keeps getting shredded.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Well, and if there's one team you don't want to
play without your offensive line.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
You guys know who it is. Who is it?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
H Houston? Houston Texans goods best defense.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean their pass rush is absolutely maniacal.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
We talked about the Rams how good that is, and
that includes the defense. They're averaging seventeen points a game,
only gave up seventeen today. Houston's is even better. Oh
and they've just sacked Mahomes on c Well, I don't
know if it goes down as a sack.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think it goes down as it was a ship.
Yeah it was, but it was tipped and he caught itself,
taught it to himself.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Mahomes is like, screw it. I'm just gonna I'm gonna
start throwing balls to myself. Yeah. So it's a tackle
for loss. I guess is what U is? What that'll
come down to. But doesn't matter. Hit the ball down, Yeah,
Chiefs have had the ball twice and they have zero first.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
So he has one reception. He is the leading receiver
on his team today.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
He is the only one. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
So this one ought to be a little bit of
especially as you said, Steve little twenty degree action.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Out there tonight.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
This is gonna be a little bit of a slobbery
knocker because both offensive lines a little bit challenged in
this game, and both defensive lines can be game changing.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
And as far as conditions, we saw Tampa Bay lose
at home. In the temperature was not a problem, but
in the rain it really chewed up the field. Today
they have to turn around that field for the Thursday
night game this week in Tampa.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh, so good luck? All right? Well, yep, lots going on,
Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
And included in all of that is, you know these teams,
the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Texans, I hate calling it.
This The good news I guess for them is that
one of the other AFC contenders all year long just
had their.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Entire year changed and possibly next year too.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
So let's get into that, because from I would love
to know what you would do if you were the Colts,
because remember they were launching into contract negotiations to make
Daniel Jones their future quarterback. Would just still, So let's
get into that. Coming up next with e from Salama

(32:55):
Mark Willard. Where in these Fox Sports radio studios, and
that's because this is Fox sportsdeo. Yeah, the Houston Texans
right now, jingle all the way into the red zone.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Third and five.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
They face long past Nico Collins and the banged up
Chiefs are trying to hold some ground, but a little
bit about two thirds of the way through the first quarter,
just getting started. This is the second possession for the Texans,
the first threat in the game.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
The Chiefs have had two possessions.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
No first downs yet, and so we will we'll keep
you up to date here in these Fox Sports radio studios.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, indeed, flag down on that video, flag down. Everybody's
looking around, what' what didn't they do? Yeah, we're still waiting.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Legle shift offense.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Oh, that's gonna negate. That's gonna negate the score.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And so it begins for the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah. Yeah. Replay assist has a.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Different name rule in in in Chiefs games. It's just
when people whisper.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
We're gonna we're gonna need you to undo that touchdown.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, that was that was very minimal at at best.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Well, illegal shift is one of those is one of
those penalties that most very objective, well and most fans
would like nobody gets mad about it because nobody even knows.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
What the hell it is right.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Within two seconds of each other before the ball is snapped.
Essentially is what it is, and now, oh made the
friend to get the first It looks like it'll.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Be pretty close where we'll see the marketmers.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, Jayden Higgins with a catch that's going to
be darned near a first down, if not a first down.
So Texans threatening, We'll keep you up to date. How's
the whole Daniel Jones thing grab you. I know they
haven't given out anything uh uber done or official yet, but.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Oh no, it's he's having surgery on his torn achilles.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, and and and so here we on December seventh,
and I'm thinking, you tell me that means he's that
pretty much missing next year too.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, and that injury costs him one hundred and fifty
million dollars.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
That injury in real time has cast Daniel Jones one
hundred and fifty million dollars at the bare minimum. It's
brutal when a team trades away two first round draft
picks to bolster their defense, and there was a quarterback question.

(35:34):
That question has been answered and they felt fully comfortable
with Daniel Jones being their guy moving forward, and so
having a torn achilles this late in the year takes
this year the rest of this year, which they're fighting
for a division championship, and all of next year, and

(35:57):
Daniel Jones hasn't been good long enough for that to
work out in his favor. Essentially, it would have been
the same thing if Sam Donald would have got hurt
towards the end of his run last year with Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
It's like, oh, dang, okay, well, maybe there are very
few teams that are going to hand one hundred million
dollars to a quarterback off an achilles injury.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Who hasn't showed that, Who hasn't showed what Daniel Joe
showed this year. Now, Atlanta did it with Kirk Cousins,
But Kirk Cousins had a history of taking teams, you know,
putting up a bunch of points, taking teams to the playoffs.
All of that, he had built up a body. Do
you like that, Yeah, we like it. Kirk Cousins had
shown that he can lead a team. Daniel Jones was

(36:53):
in the throes of that right now. He was having
the hecky year, had some rough games, but yeh know,
it's football. But for all intense purposes, they were. They
were happy with him at their quarterback, no doubt, no
and now that all changes. Uh, they don't have those
first round draft picks too, you know, to address that
quarterback issue anymore. But you know, Dylan Gabriel maybe on

(37:19):
the market coming up pretty soon, and so you know,
we I think, I mean, you know, Cleveland has figured
out that they have their guy. We'll talk about that
in the top of the next hour.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well there, yeah, there's uh, but I don't even know
what's one you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I don't worry about that. But for Daniel. But for
Daniel that that literally cost him over one hundred and
fifty million dollars in that one play. Just like that,
Ladies and gentlemen. That's why they don't guarantee contracts in
the NFL, because.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
It's one of those one of the super quirky scenarios
to where like what happened today for the Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Colts is they called off side on a quarterback sneak
on the Texans.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
No, they called it on the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I think, No, they called it on the Texans. They did, yea,
and they've never I don't even see it. No, that's
a that's a terrible call. Look at wow, Okay, here
we go, man, what are what are they saying the
Chiefs are.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I see the Chiefs off sides? Are you sure they
didn't call it on the I think they called it
on the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
No, they caught it on the Texans. Wow, this is
this is crazy. We just watched two penalties. What's happening
right now? We just saw it correct and I saw it.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
No, like it's literally they got the right penalty and
they called it on the wrong team.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
How was that even possible?

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, I tell you what.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
If I may just offer an alternate view. No, I
know you think that this is because the league favors.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
The chief Look what I'm saying is the history right
of this with the Chiefs and the refs. I didn't
create that history. I don't bring it. I didn't make
that a thing.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
But how would you feel right now if you had
claiming fairbearn on your fantasy?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
But listen it is how about this? How about how
about they hit them with an illegal shift that was
iffy yep on a touch took a touchdown away, touchdown away,
They took the first down, run pass and dive away.
Now is fourth and one they took they converted. They
took that away on a penalty that you meet and

(39:48):
the world knew was false.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, but they went to commercial, so I think they've
let them have their field goal. So we got that
going for us, which is nice. And there's more coming up.
All right, We're about to do three things. We look
forward to this every single week at this hour, six
in the west, nine in the east. Our three top observations, Ephraim,

(40:10):
I'm just gonna tell you.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
I had a hard time whittling this down to three
this week, man, a really hard time.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I got. I got some heats, I got some heat.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well, then we probably shouldn't waste a whole lot of time. Then, man,
let's ride. We're broadcast alive from the Fox Sports Radio
studios and observations of plenty for our three things, the
top three things.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
On our mind tonight.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
And I always go first because Ephraim's always the big finish.
Here is my number one, and it is that the
Washington Commanders did a horrible disservice to their franchise quarterback
Jade and Daniels today. That football team is now three
and ten. That means that they were three and nine
at the start of play today. I understand the football

(40:59):
player play. I understand that his injury was on his
non throwing arm, but when Jaydon Daniels through an interception
today against the Vikings and the Vikings were heading the
other way, that obviously leaves a quarterback open to being blocked.
He was blocked one time. He landed on his left side.
I would think that you would assume that that would

(41:19):
happen in a football game. Yep, and he immediately is
reinjured and out again. And I think it is completely
fair if we say to football teams in the fourth quarter,
when you're up by twenty points, why are your starters
still in?

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Then?

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Why can't I say this, what are you doing? What's
he doing in there? I just think machismo, run a
muck here. I understand the value in playing and whatnot,
but not when you're not healthy. And this is a
horrific injury that Jaden suffered not that long ago.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Just because you can play doesn't mean you should.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
And the Washington Commanders need to save that kid from
himself early in this career and get him out for
the rest of the year.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Will see you in August.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
You're absolutely right. And even when he was playing before
the injury, he was having a horrific game, correct, And
so you do have to protect players from themselves. It's
always been like that, it will always be like that,
because we're programmed to do one thing, and that's play.

(42:36):
And sometimes most of the time athletes don't see the
bigger picture. We can't see past the game. We can't
be see past the first quarter or the second quarter.
That's why you have to say, Okay, look, we had
a hell of a run last year, one game away

(42:57):
from the super Bowl. This kid has been hurt. Let's
get him healthy, get him some time, come back next
year full strength, and let's go to me. That makes sense.
We don't want to send our already frail quarterback out
there to throw nine for be nine for twenty for

(43:20):
seventy eight yards and a pick. That's a third. And
this is this is a quarterback who had almost at
some point was completing eighty percent of eighty two percent
of his passes last year.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
And so obviously there's something off, there's something wrong. You
must protect players from themselves.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Washington is just having a flat out weird year, and
there was a lot of hype, a lot of expectation,
talk about us sophomore slump. Uh, they're they're they're they're
real bad. And it's not just that Jaden has been
in and out of the lineup, so U they uh
that that staff uh deserves a black mark for for

(44:15):
what we've seen so far this year. And I thought
today was the headline of it.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
For me, my first one. I'm trying to see which
one I want to go further right, I'll do this one.
The Bears. The play calling towards the end of the game.
First of all, that Green Bay Chicago Bear Bears game
was great, great game, It was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Great came.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
But Ben Johnson the play calling down the stretch there,
I just don't get it. I don't understand it. You
have a team that become and made a name for
themselves and believes that they can win the game in
the fourth quarter. They can win it. That's what they do. Yep.

(45:10):
They've won multiple games, five to six games. Last second drives.
Caleb Williams has shown to be that level of quarterback
where you can just put it on his shoulders. So
you want to give him as many cracks at it
as possible. Correct, you want to put him in position
to be able to finish the thing off and in

(45:34):
the game. You don't need a coach getting in the
way of that. And Ben Johnson comes from from Detroit,
the Dan Campbell way, and we don't want that to
carry over into making poor decisions and play calls and
things like that. They had that game. You get the

(45:57):
first down, you got four shots at the end, you
handing the ball off you had. They haven't stopped you
all day. Yep, they haven't stopped you all day. Why
pick that play at such a pivotal at the end
of the game. The game was over at the end
of the game. Why why? Why do that? And that's
my thing. Sometimes coaches have to get out of the way.

(46:18):
Sometimes coaches have to get out of the way. Don't
make it be about the coach. Make it be about
what's going on on the field. Oh heartbreaking.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
It's a rough one, absolutely rough one. Although I will say,
did you see the same thing I saw? I'm gonna
flash now to the end of the game, that final
pick from Caleb Williams boy boy DJ Moore look like
you by himself, Yeah, And Caleb threw it right over
his head and into uh into coverage and it got

(46:49):
picked to end the game.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Like I said, yeah, sometimes you got to draw up
the right play. Sometimes you have to call them. Why
would you put oh man, Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, all right, now for me though, just you know,
for the record, yeah, just you know they were able to.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
The one hundred and thirty eight yards rushing just to
throw that out there, just to throw it out there.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, Listen, it may be an odd thing to say
for my number two after the conversation we just had,
but I haven't really heard anybody go here this year.
Remember last year when Jaden Daniels offensive Rookie of the
Year and everybody's kind of doing the whole Peyton.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Manning Ryan Leaf thing.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Like wooves, y'all took the wrong quarterback number one and
number two.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Actually that that was the right guy.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Jayden Daniels is the right guy the Bears should have
had Jaden Daniels. How do we feel now? How are
we doing now? Because you just said it. Look, it's
still an up and down experience sometimes with Caleb Williams.
But when you have somebody who is nine and four
and has shown the ability late in games to be

(48:11):
making big, big plays, he looks like a completely different player.
This year he now has and I know the play
calling was frustrating today, but if we look at the
entire year, he now has a functional offensive mind behind him.
And let me just say, I don't think that this
story's been written, but I think everybody's got to give

(48:34):
back their takes from last year that the Bears picked
the wrong quarterback.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
I am not convinced of that at all at this.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Point, No, I'm not. And you got to remember, if
the Bears would have took Jade and Daniels with the
first pick in the draft, Jayden Daniels wouldn't have had that.
We wouldn't have known what type of quarterback Jane Daniels.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Look, that's great.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
The Bears were a dumpster fire last year. I mean
they were bad from GM to coach, to offensive line
to everything and so. And you got to remember they
still last year started out what were they five and
two or something like that. They were they started out
on fire and then the world caught up. It was

(49:19):
just like, oh no, this is a bad, poorly run team,
got coaches fired in the middle of the season. So look,
both teams. Jayden Daniels went exactly where he was supposed
to go, almost made a Super Bowl run as a rookie.
Caleb Williams learned a lot. I learned what not to
do and what failure at the highest level looks like.

(49:42):
And now we're just seeing the tell of two teams.
One is injury induced with Jade and Daniels, and the
other one he finally got a coach that can right
the ship and bring a level of accountability into the
into the locker room. For me, Yes, sir, I think
Kevin Stefanski should be fired. I think at this point

(50:11):
watching that game, watching the Titans and the brain and
I don't know how many people were watching it. I
really didn't watch it. I thought it was unbelievable. Yep,
you're down fourteen points, right, shaduor Sanders is playing out
of his mind. He played really well to the tune

(50:33):
of three hundred and sixty four yards passing and three
touchdowns and he also ran for a score. When when
you have a young man who's hit, being hit and
chased and all of these things, some of the throws
he made were unbelievable. A handful of people in the

(50:56):
world can make those throws. But you're down by fourteen,
he leads you down you score. Now you're down by eight,
and you decide, with about five maybe five and a
half minutes, six minutes to go in the game, to
go for two for no reason. You're down by eight.

(51:16):
After you score six, you go for two for no reason.
If you kick the field goal or the extra point,
you're down by seven, which is what you strive for.
It now is one score, we can tie this thing,
or if we really filling ourselves, we can go for
the win if we get another touchdown. That's when you

(51:37):
make that decision. But when you go for two for
no reason, what it does is it puts you in
a bast situation. Okay, you kick off, the defense comes
up big, they stop them, You get the ball back,
shaduor Sanders drives you down. You score again. This kid

(51:57):
is playing out of his mind. You score again, and
now you have to go for two because you're down
for two. You're down by two, and you take him
off the field. You take your best player off the

(52:18):
field for a pivotal two point play, and you decide
to run some type of wildcat goofy fake toss throwback,
and you lose the game thirty one to twenty nine.
The fact that you didn't want you doer. There's already

(52:38):
a conspiracy about you're not you don't even want him
to be prepared, and then you do this, Oh you
gotta go, man, I don't trust your decision making. Yep,
I don't.

Speaker 9 (52:54):
Well, I don't know what the whole analytics play is
with that thing that when you're down by fourteen and
you score relatively late, you're supposed to go for two?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Are not?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
I go like, what? But you are? Says the math.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Math Meth don't win games before.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I agree with you. I agree with you. But for
whatever reason, that is what teams do. I've never understood it.
I think that the one thing that analytics doesn't do
is it doesn't account for.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
The emotion of the sideline.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
It's no different than what the Eagles did a week ago.
When you know you're you're down by nine against the
Bears on Black Friday, they score the touchdown to get
down by nine, and Syria is like, we go for two,
go for two right now. It's like, no, go for
two next time, next time, next time, keep the momentum

(53:56):
in the building.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
But I don't. I don't, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I don't I don't know what it is that that
has the math saying that, but it does.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I'm with you, brother.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I'm with he's got to go. Yeah, I mean that
was Why would you take him off the field on
the two point conversion?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
They do it every time, They've done it all three
weeks that he's played out of control. Yeah, they do it.
They don't even wait for the two pointers. Sometimes they
just do it when they're inside the five. They just
do Queen Shawn Judkins wildcat. I mean, listen, I don't
know my third thing is attached to this. We don't
need to say a whole lot more because you just
said a lot of it. Shadu or Sanders if you

(54:35):
missed it today because it was the worst game of
the entire slate.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
He really looked like.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
A QB one today and he did so in the snow,
in the weather in December. I know he's playing one
of the worst teams in football, that's true, you can
take that into account.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
But it is his.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Third start, and he had the look that you're looking for.
He had presence, he had decision making, he had execution.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
They lost, but it certainly wasn't on him.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
It was not on him. Yeah, and shame on him
and Kevin staid. Look, they need to just go ahead,
clean house man, it's too much. It's too much. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Uh no, that was it. That was my third. That
was Sanders.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah, perfect, perfect, My third is shout out to F
one on a tremendous season. Abu Dhabi was the final
race of the season. Shout out to Lando Norris from
and Team McLaren for winning the Drivers Championship his first
and sixteen tries. It's unbelievable. He's the thirty fifth driver

(55:38):
to ever win the Drivers Championship. This young man is
a tremendous driver. The whole McLaren team. H Max Vestaffern
from from Red Bull came in second, who was a
perennial champion Oscar history, came in third. Team McLaren won

(56:01):
the Constructor's Cup, which means the best team. Uh that's
a lot of money in F one. So I just
want to say this season has been tremendous. If you
guys aren't up on F one, Netflix has a tremendous
series that will get you locked into it. It's called
Drive to Survive on Netflix. Check it out and I

(56:22):
can't wait for this next season. Of drive to survive
because it's been a heck of a year. I've watched
every race, every qualifying round. Everything is tremendous. I've got
so much catch up work to do. It's unbelievable. We're
still chipping away. Brother on F one.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
That's good, right, it's it's fantastic. But I'm like living
in an F.

Speaker 10 (56:42):
One world that five years I know, I know, and
then I and then I see what happened today and
I'm like, I can't wait to find out how that
racer skipped out on this team and ended up on
that team.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Right well, that F one I'm watching.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
It's like, wait, what does he do over there?

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Like Lewis Hamilton's still the dude when I like in
my F one world, you know. So anyway, it's fantastic,
But yes, it was one hell of an historic finish
for that entire sport today, no doubt about that. All right,
great stuff. That's three things. We got to get back
into the Daniel Jones situation. We've got to get into

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the quarterback situation in Arizona. I'd like to know a
little bit more about your thoughts, e From with regard
to what we're actually seeing here between the Chiefs and
the refs, based on the comments you've already made tonight meantime,
while we were talking, Woody Mark's a touchdown catch and
the Texans have themselves a tidy, little double digit lead,

(57:45):
and the Chiefs are playing for their lives. So all
of that is coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.
Well that's true, That's just true. I don't know any
other way to say that. We're live in these Fox
Sports Radio studio and the Chiefs are struggling yet again.

(58:05):
They've been pinned at their own two. They're down ten
to nothing second quarter action in their own building here
on Sunday Night football, and to hear it from Salam
and many others tell it, they are down by ten
despite every break the officials could buster.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
You got to call it like I see it, man.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
What do you actually thinks going on here?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I don't know what's going on. I just think I
think referees a human. They understand they've here, they watched
they But so you got to be hyper vigilant, all right,
like you. You just can't be all willy nilly and
like hey, I mean those that was a Those are
two poor calls that benefited the Chiefs yep, back to

(58:54):
Beck and so you have to know, oh, okay, well,
well number one, let's be sure that false start or
off side whatever that was on they called on the offense.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It was an illegal shift that took away a touchdown
to Dalton Sheltz, followed by later same drive and this
is all in the red zone. The Texans go for
it on fourth and one, they convert, but instead off
sides is called, which you do not see on the offense.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Usually ever.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Quite frankly, it's very rare, and it should be especially
ran in a situation like this, because the Texans were
not off sides at all. Replay showed it, and then
even worse, the Chiefs were the Chiefs were, and it
got called on the Texans, and so that led to
a field goal, and then the Texans have had another

(59:55):
scoring drive, a touchdown passed to Wood he marks and
so here we are enough in Texans.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
But I don't know, like I was, it's fun to
get into all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
It's kind of a social media thing, and everybody thinks
the whole world is stacked in the favor of the Chiefs.
But sometimes I like to ask, especially people who are
around the league and you know what you're talking about
and all that, Like, I mean, like, for real, is
this actually a thing? Like you don't think there's actually
some sort of conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
No, I just think no, I don't because I've played
and so I know how difficult that would be. I'm
just saying the teams aren't officiated the same. Yeah, and
that's the problem I think a lot of people have.
And so it's the Kansas City Chiefs played a game

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where they didn't have one single penalty.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
M hm, that's hard to do?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
What that's hard hard to do? I mean you could
argue that it's impossible to do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
That's yes, yeah, And so that goes right along and
then you see the two things that we saw. We've
seen this team benefit from a lot of those type
of calls, artist calls or things like that, and that's
why people were scratching their head like it's just like okay,
come on, man, enough is enough? Like enough.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I could buy the idea of someone going to work
for a full day and making no mistakes. But it
wouldn't be the Chiefs. It would be Steve Desager that
would Yeah, that I would buy.

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
Meanwhile, I'm just spending the night looking at the pool
reporter interviewing the NFL official in Baltimore. It still doesn't
make much. Yeah, yeah, I will say that they even
spoke with the NFL Vice president of instant replay and
he was talking about three things happened, have to happen
for the for it to be a catch. And the

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pool reporter says, we saw him take two steps the
first two things that you want, and then take two
steps at the end zone Isaiah likely of the Ravens.
And the answer was yeah, but the act common to
the game, he didn't do that before he could get
a third foot down, then the ball was ripped out
so it was incomplete. And the reporter says, wait, wait,
act common to the game? What would constitute that answer

(01:02:22):
for this play? It would be him completing that third
step with his foot in the end zone. Okay, okay, ah,
that's the answer. I'm not sure it satisfies any of us,
but apparently that's the act common to the game. Is
a third step laterally in the end zone with control

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of the ball, Then that'll do it. Okay, Texans are
leading ten to nothing at Kansas City. We'll get to that.
That's late first half. One thing, and we will get
to more of this in an hour. But congratulations to
former second baseman Jeff Kent. He is going to the
Baseball Hall of Fame. He has been elected tonight from
not the Baseball Riders, but a Contemporary era committee. He

(01:03:04):
is the all time home run leader at second base.
He got fourteen votes out of the sixteen member panel.
And remember last hour we were talking about the Chiefs
offense with all these offensive lineman missing. We even had
a Patrick Mahomes catch on a deflection where he lost yardage.
Ap comes up with a great stat that puts him
at negative yardage receiving for his career. Patrick Mahomes three

(01:03:29):
catches for minus two yards now apparently the only other
active player that has at least three catches and fewer
yards Aaron Rodgers has four catches for minus twenty in
his long career.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Well, we did have.

Speaker 7 (01:03:42):
Earlier today a Jacksonville home win over Indianapolis. This was
a matchup of eight and four teams. They were tied
for first in the AFC South. Jags took at thirty
six nineteen. Trevor Lawrence two touchdown passes two touchdown runs
for Travis etn. The bad news for the Colts, quarterback
Daniel Jones limb off with a torn achilles, a non
contact injury. So the Colts this season have gone from

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seven to one to now an eight and five record,
and they've lost their starting quarterback since the merger in
nineteen seventy. Here's the question, how many teams start seven
to one and wind up making the playoffs? The answer
is almost all of them. In fact, there's only two
teams since the nineteen eighties who have not made the

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playoffs after starting seven and one. Maybe the Colts will
be added to that list, but the twenty twelve Bears
finished with ten wins and did not make it after
a seven and one start, and nineteen ninety six Washington
finished nine and seven. Keep in mind fewer rounds back
then as well, but we passed that along. Meanwhile, at
the top of the AFC, the Denver Broncos, they've won

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ten in a row. They won at Las Vegas twenty
four to seventeen. It was twenty four to seven with
two and a half minutes left. By the way, this
is this win at Las Vegas came at the expense
of the race who've lost seven in a row, and
they lost quarterback Gino Smith to an injured right hand
and shoulder in the third quarter. He'd had an early
TD pass. He was replaced by Kenny Pickett, who had

(01:05:10):
a late TD pass. But the Broncos tie idle New
England for top seed in the conference. What's the tiebreaker
right now between those two? What's your record in common opponents? Well,
Denver compared to New England schedule, Denver is six and
oh in the common games. The Patriots have actually lost
one and that was to the Raiders on opening Day.

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So the Denver Broncos right now are the one seed,
not idle New England. Green Bay by Chicago twenty eight,
twenty one. Caleb Williams through an interception in the end
zone with anunther thirty seconds left on a fourth and one.
The Rams dominated at Arizona forty five seventeen victories for
Pittsburgh and Buffalo. Seattle's ten and three after winning thirty

(01:05:53):
seven to nine at Atlanta, Seahawks were down six to
three late first half wins for Miami, Minnesota and New
war Orleans, which was two and ten got a victory
at Tampa Bay twenty four to twenty Tennessee ended a
seven game losing streak, winning thirty one twenty nine at Cleveland.
Tonight's game at Kansas City is at the two minute
warnings so late first half. Texan's up ten to nothing

(01:06:15):
a touchdown pass for CJ. Stroud. Patrick mahomes seven of
ten fifty one yards passing in the first half, no touchdowns,
one interception. He does have one reception, as we pointed out.
The Monday night game is Eagles at Chargers, each team
eight and four. LA quarterback Justin Herbert with the broken
left hand, had surgery this past week. He was hurt

(01:06:36):
last Sunday. Officially, he is questionable for the game. College
football playoff final rankings Indiana number one, also in the
top four, getting a first round by Ohio State, Georgia
and Texas Tech. Oregon will be hosting James Madison in
the first round. Old Miss will be hosting Tulane. Yeah,
those are going to be the TNT games. I don't

(01:06:57):
think we need to look that up. Old Miss, by
the way, already played Tulane this year and led them
forty five to three late in the game. But you
know this is going to be a playoff game between
the best in the country. Texas A and M is
going to be hosting number ten Miami. No Notre Dame
was not selected, and then Notre Dame said, well, fine,
we're not going to a bowl game. Then Oklahoma will

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host number nine Alabama in a first rounder. That winner
will go to the Rose Bowl against Indiana. The Indiana
Hoosiers football program. A has never been ranked number one
in the country until today. B has not been to
a Rose Bowl since the nineteen sixties. C had not
won a conference title outright since the nineteen fifties. They

(01:07:39):
are just living in a magic, magical land. It cannot
get any better, you would think, for Indiana football. And
then they're going to play again this month, so stay tuned.
By the way, the first Bowl game is this Saturday
night in La at the Ramstadium, Boise State against Washington.
And guys, we do have the Lakers in action tonight,
and yes, Lebron James is playing and Luca's back and

(01:08:02):
the Lakers are leading at Philadelphia ninety eight ninety four
with six minutes to go. Luka Donci's twenty seven points,
Lebron James with nineteen, and we had quite the late comeback.
Tonight in a Big Ten women's hoops opener, Maryland wins
in double overtime at Minnesota one hundred to ninety nine
after trailing with less than a minute left in the

(01:08:24):
second overtime by nine points. In less than a minute,
ten straight points to steal the victory on the road.
Couple of free throws, then back to back turnovers by
the home team on inbounds passes, and each steal led
to three point plays for the visitors, and Minnesota cut
the lead to one quickly, and then they got the
game winning layup off an in pounds pass and one

(01:08:46):
hundred and ninety nine double overtime the final once again
Texans ten Chiefs nothing. And yes, the Texans have the
best defense in football back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
To you, Indeed they do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
And the Chiefs that said, are on the move high
red zone right now, under two minutes to go in
the in the first half. Hey, I want to ask
you guys this because Steve that the the remark about, uh,
you know the teams that that automatically or by the
rules kind of work their ways in the group of
James Madison's twines, does this bother everybody? Because in college

(01:09:22):
basketball We got no problem with Mount Saint Mary's going
up against Kansas, and I know that you have to
win six, but these teams need to win four.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
I mean, it's all the championship round, is it?

Speaker 7 (01:09:37):
Not my problems with the ACC, but they they didn't
put their two best teams in their championship yeah last night. Yeah,
and that through the whole national scale ascue.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I guess it goes back to my original point, which
is that if we just make rules, we'll follow them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
But you have to make rules.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
You can't make them up as you go, which is
what to me the college football often feels like.

Speaker 7 (01:10:03):
At the ACT, oh, there's new rules next year, because
there's a report that's starting next year, the ACC champion
is guaranteed a spot. Duke won the ACC title game
last night, did not make the playoff. Duke a team
that was five and five a few weeks ago and
also starting next year. For sure, in the new agreement,
Notre Dame is guaranteed a spot in the playoff if

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it finishes in the top twelve. It was number eleven
this year and was the first team out. So you're saying,
wait a minute, it's a twelve team playoff. How does
number eleven not get in? They're not a conference champion,
and so the best of the smaller conferences they automatically
get in, and a highly ranked conference champion like James
Madison gets in over Duke. Therefore, and the irisher on

(01:10:46):
the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
The whole system feels like fever the World Cup, FEBA soccer,
and it feels like that.

Speaker 11 (01:10:56):
It just feels gross, broken and corrupt, is what you're saying.
That's what it feels like. Yeah, I mean, you expand,
but then you have all these caveats and all that.
I mean, it's ridiculous. I'm like, okay, well, what what's
the point you gonna put the teams you want to
put in?

Speaker 7 (01:11:13):
Anyway, And the thing is with Notre Dame all these
years they've had their own TV contract and not being
at a conference, they don't have to split the money
with anybody. That's them that cash cow, which means the
four million dollars they would have gotten for making the playoff,
they wouldn't have had to split with anybody. We always
talk about liv golf at the astounding four million dollars

(01:11:35):
first prizes. This is what was taken away by Notre
Dame literally today. You know that there's something to be
said for that, and also amazing because the Irish had
been in the top ten of every college football playoff
ranking this year until today. It didn't play on Saturday.
It's not in a conference, but Miami didn't play Saturday either.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
So who had a worst day? Notre Dame or Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Daniel Jones, Yeah, yeah, and fifty million.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Well, hey, they're both going to eat tomorrow. Let's let's
let's be okay.

Speaker 7 (01:12:07):
There is no poverty being claimed. Yeah, certainly, But did
you when as soon as you saw him slam his
helmet down to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
When I saw the step, I was like, oh you
know what that is?

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
Oh yeah, Brian Andrey or any other where your heel
is too far back. It's that underneath you. It stretches
the Achilles and pop it goes, and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
You can see it. You can see the sock pop
and and and you yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
Remember that, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, you could see a little
movement like a wave on the back of the calf.
By the way, Kansas City is still scoreless. They have
just missed a forty three yard field goal that hit
the right up right and by the way, just in advance,
before I even look at Twitter. Anytime this, this literal

(01:12:51):
sentence gets said on Twitter. Anytime Harrison Butker misses a
field goal, a woman gets her NBA, somebody's tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Full of goofball.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, yeah, an angel gets its wings, Mark gets a smile.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
There's all kinds of things that happen. Great, Steve, thank
you very much, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Yeah, my wife just so, just so you know, yeah,
hit me my wife right now live as we're talking.
Does she give a little She's watching the game and
texting me what is this person complaining about and needs
to showing? Patrick Mahomes when he got sacked. He's looking

(01:13:30):
at the refs. Uh, they're allowed to touch you punk?

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Yep? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Also, why is it out of what going You want
to read the next screenshot though, I will, I will. Yeah,
the Chiefs will bring it out in you man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
She said, Baha, love it when that loser misses.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
She's a loser. That's not the word she uses.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yep, yep, yep. My wife is a gangster man like.
But the fact that I love the fact that she, uh,
she watches and she's locked in. I mean that's the greatest.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Thing, the best.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
It's it's the greatest best.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Yeah, it's the best. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Now there's a good field position for the Texans who
have a minute to play within a ten point lead
before half.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
So we'll keep you up to date.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
I do want to tell you about the team that
it seemed like they had an awful day. I think
they had a great day. We'll tell you about that
coming up next as well. With me from Salam I'm
Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio Studios of Fox Sports Radio.
All right, this halftime in Kansas City, it is ten
nothing for the Houston Texans.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
This defense is some thin else.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Of course, the Chiefs could be down by only seven,
but Harrison Butker pushed one wide to the right to
the delight of something. Let's just put it that way,
including some that you know very well. Glad you're with
us tonight. I know a lot of people you know.
And Steve was talking about Geno Smith goes out and

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the Raiders offensive line amongst the worst in the history
of the game with some of their metrics and performances.
I thought today was a great day for the Las
Vegas Raiders franchise. And it is solely because the Tennessee
Titans won, and so the Raiders who have oddly needed

(01:15:35):
a quarterback now for a long time, and they just
keep not addressing it. It's just do you notice this,
It's one placeholder after another. It's just another like, we
know you're not the guy, but you might be able
to come in here and sort of play football and
we're fine with it. Kind of a vibe Gardner Minshew

(01:15:56):
Geno Smith. I could go on Jimmy Garoppolo and so
that has not made sense to me. And it's like
someone needs to shake the Raiders and be like, you're
in Las Vegas, Nevada. This is the center of the
entertainment world.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
You you just moved there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
You are the Raiders. You're a huge brand. Will you
please go try to get a quarterback. Signing one of
the greats of all time as your owner doesn't count.
So they badly need the first pick and I hope
they get it, and today it was a big step
to doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Yeah good lord. Yeah, it's it's hard to watch. It's
I really and I'm not a Raider guy me neither.
I was a Bronco and wants a Bronco, never a Raider.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
High hopes. I thought, Okay, Pete Carroll's coming in. He's
got that energy, even though he's the oldest coaching league's
got that energy. Aston Genty was the first round draft pick.
I thought he was gonna be a bell cow for them.
Gino Smith, Okay, he knows Pete. Well, it just hasn't
worked on any level, on any level. And you know,

(01:17:24):
I said all the time, I feel bad for Max Crosby.
I feel like, you know, I feel bad for these
guys who were game changers. Max Crosby on a contending
team is what Chris Jones is to Kansas City and
has been for the last you know, for super Bowl runs. Yep,
that they've been. Chris Jones has been a staple on

(01:17:45):
getting them to the super Bowl and helping them win
the Super Bowl himself alone. And Max Crosby and Miles
Garrett are those guys on a contending team and it
just blows my mind how they have been at trying

(01:18:05):
to bring in a quarterback them the Steelers. I'm not
excuse me, not well yeah, the Steelers, Steelers, but the Browns.
I meant the Browns.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
You know what I'm gonna give the Browns something though,
because they got something. But they're and they're trying, and
they didn't they didn't want it, no, but they're there.
They drafted quarterbacks at least, and I'm gonna also, even
though it was their own stupidity, I'm gonna give them
the nod of like, you're in a weird situation because
you did the whole Deshaun Watson thing and we got

(01:18:40):
to talk about that coming up too, but that left you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
In a weird situation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
The Raiders are like a college student with an essay
do and you just keep like, I do it tomorrow,
like they've.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Been and they've been doing it for three four years.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
It's like, well, you just I don't even care if
you mess up? Will you just try try to get
a franchise quarterback?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
You need one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
We want you to mess up, right, just try me
shows effort, right, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
That all like yes fail and then you know you
learn something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
And like all these teams, the New York Giants and
Jackson Dart and right, the Bears got their guy and
then the Vikings might have messed this up, but they
out here trying in these streets.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
The Raiders are just like whatever, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Whatever, bro whatever, b all right, all right, Chadur and Deshaun,
let's play it in that sandbox it we'll do so
coming up next, Off.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
We go into our final hour.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Off, they go into the second half in Kansas City
the Chiefs, so kick it off.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
The Texans are already up by ten.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
And as is all in the case on an NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Sunday, when we go to bed at night, the whole
quarterbacking world is sometimes different than when we woke up,
and that is absolutely the case. Daniel Jones, the lead
story a torn Achilles. Where's the cold season and where
does their future go from here? Gino Smith left a
game in Vegas. We were just talking about their quarterback situation.

(01:20:24):
Might be good that the Raiders are right now on
track for the number one overall pick. Nothing against Smith
and his particular health, but you've had a few different
shuffles with regard to the quarterbacking position.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
We're waiting to see official word on Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Tomorrow night you had the Jets with Tarad Taylor leaving
the game, and Justin Fields had been ruled out before kickoff,
So everybody ended up in kind of a weird spot.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
And then and then there's the Browns.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
You know, over the weekend and early this morning come
word and I don't even know necessarily why or what
the meaning was behind it, but the Browns put out
word that Deshaun Watson has been doing some good things
in the quarterback room. He's been a helpful veteran, and
they plan to have him as their quarterback or at

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least in the quarterback room next year. And then when
you know it, Shador Sanders comes out and by far
and away, even in a loss, has the best game
of his young career. And in week three of that
career he just kind of looked the part, which is
what you're really looking for.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
So handicap it. Where does that sit right now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
That leaves us where with regard to Deshaun Chadeur or
door number three for the Cleveland Browns down the road?

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Well, I think in order for the Cleveland Browns to
get themselves out of this thing that's been going on
for thirty years with them, is you. I think Shoulder
is clearly not only a fan favorite, but he's the
best option at quarterback you have on the roster currently
Number two that allows you to trade Dylan Gabriel for

(01:22:15):
some draft capital. You won't get much, but yeah, you
will get something. And then you have Deshaun Watson be
there for your your backup quarterback because you're paying them anyway,
so you know, it doesn't there is no trade capital
for him, and it doesn't do anything for you to

(01:22:38):
get rid of them. So I think next year going
into the season, should do as your one and Deshaun
is your backup for the last year of his five
year deal, and you know, you write it out from
there and hopefully she do it can make big strides.
Kevin Stefanski's fired, and you know, you bring someone who

(01:23:02):
actually likes the kid and wants to see him prosper
and and you don't self sabotage in the middle of games.
I think all of that's possible.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
I can't argue with the logic of anything that you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I will just say though, that that all feels a
little too definitive too soon. Like I don't know that
you need to have that. I mean, if you're thinking
that that's option A, that's that's fine, I guess. But
like I was very intrigued with Shador Sanders today. The

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last two weeks, like the one thing I'll say that's
really good for shadeor is each week has gotten better
than the week before it. Week one, his first start
there against Las Vegas, they won, but that was not good.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
And then last week against the forty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Nine ers, it was not good, but it wasn't like
you know, it wasn't terrible either, and he did a
few good things, and then today really really strong. So
that's all you really want to see from a young player.
And I'm with you that he's clearly the best option
for this year. I don't know that I'm sold on

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anything beyond this year.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
All we can go off of is at the end
of the years, if he's made strides. He's a rookie quarterback.
Whether he's drafted in the first round or the sixth
round or seventh round, he's a rookie. And so if
he's made strides in a way that your team is better,
then I think is your responsibility to cultivate that. You've

(01:24:36):
spent the fifth round draft pick on it on him.
He's been your best option on the team this year,
and you got to remember you started this year with
a crowded quarterback room. And he's been your best option,
no question so far. He's played the best so far.

(01:24:56):
So why wouldn't you invest in someone you drafted who
is showing potential? That's the whole problem. The Browns are
quick to I mean, why is Baker Mayfield not playing
for the Browns?

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
You see what I'm like, what's happening to where you
were like, Okay, we're out on Baker. He's only taking
us to a playoff and won a playoff game four
and and you're and we're out and now he's thriving
somewhere else. Sure, so at some point you have to
stop and say, hey, it should Doure Sanders with the

(01:25:33):
right coaching and nurturing. Can he be our franchise quarterback?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Well, I have no problem with that as a question.
Can he be the franchise quarterback? And if the thought
process right now is he's the leader in the clubhouse
to be QB one next year, I'm cool with that too.
I just don't think that any definition is necessary yet.
For example, and I know that this is I don't
think the word is controversial, the sensitive. It's touchy for

(01:26:02):
financial reasons and beyond. But like, are we ruling Deshaun
Watson out?

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yeah, he's just not a good player anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Okay, he wasn't the last time we saw him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
No, and he's only his only like, like, injury doesn't
make you better, No, of course, not right, Like if
you if you were a player, a good player, and
then you came back and you weren't very good, then
you got hurt, like you don't regain.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
No, but he was dealing with a lot of nagging
injuries at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
That wasn't a terrible Like I'm not here to cape
up for Deshaun Watson for goodness sake.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
The answer to that is, I don't know if he
can play at the level they need him to play it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
I don't know either. But he's thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
He's thirty, and as you said, he's gonna make a
whole lot of money next year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
But the problem is when something when something puts a
bad taste in your mouth, do you eat it again?

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
Not? Usually?

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Do you eat it again?

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
Not usually?

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Like babies learning, that's how baby's learning. If babies pick
up something and put it in their mouth and they
don't like it, they won't do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Yeah, but then again, now you don't like coffee when
you're ten years old, But there's nobody who's forty who's not.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Yeah, but everybody's the other. So the thing that that
left the bad taste in their mouth, they're of age.
And the problem with it is the fact that you
spent the money. The contract is the worst in NBA history.
It didn't pan out when he was healthy, it didn't

(01:27:50):
work when he was hurt. It didn't work. So much
is transpired since that bad contract. Are we gonna keep
revisiting that? So say Deshaun Watson comes up out and
he's the starter next year and he has a phenomenal season.
They all end and they go to the playoffs. Okay,
and they lose in the first round of the playoffs. Yeah,

(01:28:11):
do you resign them? Hell no, I don't know. You
don't why not because it's a bad taste, but.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
It but it wouldn't be. It would be not if
he led you to the playoffs. It would be wouldn't
it be forgiven? Forget?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
It would not be? Why because the other shoe is
still you know what the other shoe is? And are
you willing because what that what would that number be,
So you mean to tell me you pay Jashaun Watson
upwards of three hundred No, it would have fifty million
dollars total.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
It would go way down, Yeah, but it would still.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Be in the one hundred million dollar range.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Maybe maybe maybe it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Look what the Sam Donalds deal with that, that's where
the standard is for that. Okay, right, the Geno deal, Like,
that's where they like, you can't dip. They're not going
to allow you to dip below that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
That's fine. If it's a short term thing, then that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
No, it's not fine.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Why like put it this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Way again, I'm not like advocating this. I'm just saying,
why wouldn't you be open to anything?

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
If I'm because sometimes if you've been in a history
of terrible relationship, yeah I hear you, sometimes you have
to learn to walk away from one.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Well, look, they're allowed to do that now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
They're not going to do it now because but why not?

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
The Broncos just did it with Russell Wilson and this
is lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
There's a completely different franchise. And then this doesn't get
you what pick will the Browns have?

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
All Right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
The Browns won't have the first pick in the draft.
They won't have the first three picks in the draft.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
It's gonna be early. It will be early. The Browns
are three and ten. There's only there's three teams right
now ahead of that, right in terms of the race.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
For the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
And I think they're going to win games. I think
they're going to the way. Yeah, I know your door
wants to win games.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
They might.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
They're in Chicago next week, and so the Buffalo the
week after that, Pittsburgh the week after.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
I don't know that they're gonna win any more games.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
You're you don't want to go back to the girlfriend
has been our The boyfriend has been abusive to you
because it's comfortable and it Yeah, just because they've had
a year of oh my god, you're the perfect guy
this year, you don't. You don't get married to that
guy because of the history, the bad taste has been.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
In your mind. No no marriage, no marriage, But I
am you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Signed him to a three year extension for one hundred
and twenty million dollars. That's a marriage.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
But that's two years from now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
I'm talking about as I see this right now, and
my starting point, it's actually two starting points. One is
Shador played well today. The other one is you'all told
the world that Sean's on the team next year. Those
are the two things that I know today. And what
I do with those pieces of information is I say, great,

(01:31:02):
we'll see you both in camp. But let's see how
you all look. I don't need to decide anything else.
Shadur will be cheap, Deshaun will be expensive. But they're
both under contract.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Right, So let's show up moving forward.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
And the and the and the best player plays. No,
why not?

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
I if if Deshaun Watson were to out I mean
this is all mythical. If he were to outplay Shadure
Sanders in camp, I would play him.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Then then I would suggest that the Browns undo the
announcement they made today.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Well, they said gat and cut him. He's practicing that.
They're not gonna cut It was too much money. It's
with forty five million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
But you're paying that either way.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
It's they're going to get some value out of him.

Speaker 11 (01:31:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
What they said was he's been amazing for the young
players in the in the in the quarterbacks room. That's
a that's a tangible, that's value. Okay, that is value.
Is it forty five million dollars a year? No, but
there is some value there. And if he can help
Shador in that quarterbacks room in any way, then there.

(01:32:17):
That's how they're rationalize the contract that is fully guaranteed
and they're almost out of it. They're gonna we're gonna
get every dime out of it. It may never be
on the field again, but at least he's gonna bring
something in here that we can quantify and use.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
I feel you, But then now you're what you're giving
me vibes on now is when do you remember when
the forty nine ers were gonna trade Jimmy Garoppolo and
then at the last minute they didn't. And this was
when Rock Party was QB three, Trey Lance was getting
ready to be the starter for the forty nine ers,
and then they brought Jimmy back and I immediately was like, ooh,
that's a hedge and it was like, I don't think

(01:32:58):
that they liked what they were seeing from.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Trey Lancing camp.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
And the reason I bring that up now is to say, like,
you realize if you were to do what you're suggesting,
which is really saying no, suld you're going to be
our starter. Well, then to me, you don't support a
young starter by keeping a big name back up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
No, you keeping a veteran presence. That's yeah, there is
no veteran presence there, right, But WHENO is gone, it
was just Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
But if and when Shador gets hurt, now you run
the risk of Deshaun comes in and looks better. And
I can't do that to my young quarterback. That's making
him look over his shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
No, because you know that shoulder. It won't be in
the building next year. You don't have to look over it.
It's one year. That's why I'm telling you they won't
re sign him no matter how good he looks. If
he ends up playing, well, yeah, he's not happening.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Well that what if Shador looks awful?

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
I mean he do look awful this year.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
He's played three games.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
But what I'm saying is games he's.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
Frankly in a couple of them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
I mean, yeah, he kind of did he better than
any quarterback they have on the roster. Yes, that's not
and that's all you can but that's all you can
ask for.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
What you have. I'm not asking for anything.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
We can say, we want you do it to look
like uh, Dylan Gabriel, I mean not Dylan Gabriel, but no, no,
I'm talking about Jayden Daniels last year. That's what we want. Well,
your team isn't set up and conduc.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
The fun, of course not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
We want him to look like Caleb Williams.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
I'm not asking for him to look like anything other
than who he is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
I'm just saying, I don't know why that after one
really good game now means you need to start.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Not really good. I get what you're saying. They even
brought it up. Why why are they you know, Yes,
it's a poorly run franchise.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
That's very fair.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Okay, it's very poorly run. So we're here in a
in a debate about something that a poorly run franchise
just said, right like, we're debating, yes, well, why would
you do that like what they did it? Because they're
not run very good, right, that's why. Right, And so

(01:35:13):
now we're trying to make sense of it and figure
out what they meant this or they meant this, and
this is what they're gonna do. Whatever decision they make,
I can tell you right now, it'll be the wrong
one based on history. I made that based on history.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
I can't argue with that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
So that's where I am with the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
If we're talking about future plans at quarterback, then we
need to get to another team whose entire situation kind
of blew up today.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
So we'll get to that. Up around the corner, the
Chiefs are on the board.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
They had an opening opening drive touchdown in the second half,
so we've got ourselves a game. It is ten to
seven Texans lead. Chiefs have the ball back, so we'll
keep you up to date on that. I've here in
the Fox Sports Radio studios with e From Salama, Mark Willard,
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Well, hope you're listening. We're live in the Fox Sports
Radio studios, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Steve to say you will be along in five minutes
and we'll get everything all up to date.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
Chiefs have the ball down three.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Still in their own territory, but moving. If you missed
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Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
After we get off the air. We are not done yet.
I do have a quick aside.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
You know, I don't want the time of year to
just totally remove us from a position where you get
to exude.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
Seventeen and six. Okay, okay, yeah, man, okay, seventeen and six.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
Yeah. They didn't show up against the Celtics on Friday,
but they had a good game today. Lebron finally became Lebron.
Twenty nine point seven rebound, six assists, hit the two
big shots at the end to put them up over Philadelphia.
Philly came to play. It was a good game. One twelve,
one oh eight. I you look, the thing I'm excited

(01:37:33):
about with the Lakers now is they've been able to
win some games without either Lebron, Luca or Austin at
some point. To me, that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
It's big.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
That's big, real big.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Having Lebron as your third option is not a bad thing.
It's quite as not a bad thing. That's quite a luxury.
And so what a luxury I know they are not
constructed as of now to be Okay, see well who
neither is anyone else? Ye?

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
Who is?

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
And the only teams that really give them Portland does
Houston because they're young and they can just go. But okay,
see they have number not only do they have the
number one offense, but they also have the number one
you know, defensive efficiency rating, and so they can they
can just go at what I believe, they're twenty two and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
One, twenty two and one, twenty two and one, and
so you start thinking already now about you know, records
and seventy two wins and seventy three wins, and could
they get to seventy four? And I know that you
know they're young enough and deep enough because by the way,
they've got key players out too.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
And does that even matter?

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Yeah, Jay will miss a bunch of games. Hartenstein's out now,
so like they just keep on going. And and so
you know, as someone who watched the Warriors do the
seventy three wins, Mollent suggesting to them would be like
break that record if it's just all in stride. But

(01:39:15):
if you get down, there's six games to go, and
we got guys pushing through injury in order to get
the seventy fourth win.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
Don't do that, right, don't don't do that. That That
is a fool's errand and and I think can really
really cost you when when you get.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
To the playoffs twenty two and one to lose four games,
right right right, So you know, we look up and
they're forty four and two. Now now now we got something,
you know, so and and the way they're winning, it's convinced.

(01:39:57):
It's very convincing.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
I mean, get bored at a certain point, don't you know?

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
But they yet. So what happens is, you know, Shaye
and a lot of those guys don't play in the
fourth quarter. They're young guns on the bench. They're not
getting bored. No, that's they're getting real playing time. And
they're going they're going in. They are so deep, they're
twelve deep.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
There are people that, like the average hoops fan doesn't
even like who the hell was Every year they're introducing
a couple of new people. It feels like and you're like,
wait a minute, who's Mitchell? Where Mitchell come from? Why
is he averaging fifteen points a game?

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
How that happen? So?

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Yeah, man, they got more than they need right now. Yeah,
Like you know, they're beating the breaks off the Utah
Jazz right now and Shae's not even playing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Yeah, they don't need them to beat the Jazz up
by thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Listen to their minutes twenty twenty three, twenty three, twenty four, ten,
and that's their bench, the the amount of min is
their bench is playing. That's that's the difference. Yep. These

(01:41:19):
guys are rested. And so when you say, oh, they
could get bored, those guys on the bench aren't getting bored.
They're getting an opportunity to play and they're going all in.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
Well, we love depth. I love deep teams.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
We have a deep team, and we show off our
depth at the bottom of every single hour.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
Steve de Sager here he comes into the game.

Speaker 7 (01:41:42):
Hello once again, and what are he from? Referred to
Oklahoma City Superstar Shay Gilgers. Alexander is out tonight with
left elbow Bersidas and still Okase's about to win its
fifteenth game in a row. It's just gone final one
thirty one one one at Utah twenty five points apiece
for Jay Williams and Chet Holmgren, twenty three and one

(01:42:03):
record for the defending champs. Lakers are seventeen and six
after the narrow win at Philadelphia, won twelve one oh eight.
Luka Donzich thirty one points. He missed the previous two
games for family reasons. Lebron James twenty nine points tonight.
He was questionable due to his back and foot problems.
Golden State and Denver each one on the road home
wins for Memphis and New York. Boston won it's fifth straight,

(01:42:25):
won twenty one, one thirteen at Toronto. Jaylen Brown thirty
thirty points, and we had top twenty five victories. In
college hoops for North Carolina and Kansas By the way,
women's number one Yukon they won one oh two to
thirty five against DePaul. They're just starting the league season.
This is gonna happen over and over. DePaul had thirty

(01:42:46):
five points and thirty two turnovers in that game. Hi,
goodness to the NFL game turnovers. I just you know,
I would be tempted to just run out the thirty
second clock every possession at that point. Honestly, Houston Texans
are leading ten to seven at Kansas City. It's about
four and a half minutes to go in the third
quarter of the Sunday Night NFL game. You know, we

(01:43:08):
did mention an hour ago that Harrison Butker had missed
a field goal attempt in the first half of the
Chiefs fourth time this year he's missed a field goal attempt,
Plus he's missed four pats, So eight miss kicks total
ties for the most in the NFL this year, and
it ties with Joshua Carty, who lost his job because
of that with the Rams, and Blake Groupie who lost

(01:43:30):
his job also because of that. Just saying Texans did
get a touchdown pass to Woody Marx in the second quarter.
Mark's on the ground twelve carries just twenty nine yards
and Patrick Mahomes with twenty nine yards on four carries,
is the leading rusher for his team tonight. Now, Kareem
Hunt does have a two yard touchdown run, but Hunt
ten carries twenty four yards on the ground, Mahomes a

(01:43:54):
one hundred and twenty four yards passing one interception. If
the Chiefs lose, they will be six and seven this season.
They did not score a point in the first half tonight,
which is one of the very rare times with Patrick
Mahomes as a starter, the Chiefs have been scoreless at halftime.
It happened tonight, it happened in the Super Bowl in
the against the Eagles last year, and only two other

(01:44:15):
times in his whole career a game against the Titans
twenty twenty one, and what wound up in overtime AFC
Title game against Tom Brady in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
And that's it.

Speaker 7 (01:44:26):
Yes, Houston has the number one defense in football. Denver
won its tenth straight at not a bad defense there either.
They won twenty four to seventeen at Las Vegas. It
was twenty four to seven lead with two and a
half minutes left. The Broncos are tied with Idle New
England for the one seed in the AFC. And by
the way, we are on the final weekend of Buys

(01:44:46):
New England, and the Giants are off Carolina and San
Francisco as well. Everybody's playing every weekend for the rest
of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
Down the stretch.

Speaker 7 (01:44:55):
Green Bay is playing well down the stretch, twenty eight
to twenty one over Chicago today three touchdown pa for
Jordan Love. Rams won in dominant fashion at Arizona forty
five to seventeen. Pittsburgh wonted Baltimore twenty seven to twenty
in a matchup of teams that were tied for first
in the AFC North. Jacksonville was hosting the Colts. Those
two were tied for first in the AFC South. Jags

(01:45:18):
won the game thirty six nineteen, and Colt's running back
Daniel Jones limped off with a reported torn achilles it'll
be official tomorrow. Buffalo in the snow beat Cincinnati thirty
nine thirty four, coming back from ten points down with
under ten minutes to go. Seattle ten and three now
wanted Atlanta thirty seven to nine. New Orleans got to

(01:45:38):
win at Tampa Bay twenty four to twenty. Miami beat
the Jets thirty four to ten. The Jets offense was
just as woeful as Wolfel gets, well, they've done this
before this year, actually, but compared to other teams, it
was really, really bad. The Jets had no first downs
at all until late first half. Minnesota sent Washington to
an eight straight loss thirty one nothing. Washington only had

(01:46:01):
seven drives on offense about two hundred total yards. Tennessee
had lost seventh straight, was one and eleven and got
to win at Cleveland thirty one twenty nine. The Titans
offense fifteen drives, only thirteen first downs, and they score
over thirty points and still beat the Browns. Go explain.

(01:46:21):
College football playoff final rankings came out led by number
one Indiana, also getting a first round by Ohio State, Georgia,
Texas Tech, Texas, A and m will host number ten
Miami in a first rounder. Oklahoma will host number nine Alabama.
Notre Dame was not selected. It lost its season opener
at Miami on a late field goal. By the way,

(01:46:42):
the Citrus Bowl will have Michigan against Texas, Alamobile, Usc
against TCU, and Notre Dame did withdraw from the bowl
season after not being picked today, as did Iowa State
in Kansas State. But they just got new head coaches.
In the old old days fifty years ago, well more
than that, even Notre Dame never went to Bowl games

(01:47:03):
slightly different circumstances. Today, NAHL wins for Colorado and Washington.
And we have a new member of the Baseball Hall
of Fame elected tonight, former second baseman Jeff Kent, elected
by committee, not the Baseball Writers their ballot. Their results
come out every January. Kent got fourteen of the sixteen

(01:47:23):
votes tonight, he needed twelve to get in. He's a
former Giant met and Dodger California native is the all
time home run leader for a second basement over three
hundred and fifty career batting average two ninety. There were
eight former players on this Contemporary Baseball era Hall of
Fame ballot. Results announced tonight. Carlos Delgado got nine votes,

(01:47:45):
so he fell short. Six vote seats for Don Mattingly
and Dale Murphy, they each missed the Hall of Fame.
Also on the ballot were Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield,
and Fernando ellens Wale. We don't know exactly how many
votes they got or didn't get, but since it's less
than five that much, they did say. By rule, candidates

(01:48:07):
who get fewer than five votes from this committee now
are not eligible for consideration by the same committee when
it meets again in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
Jeeze back to you, what do you get me for
Jeff Kent getting in before Barry Bonds does well?

Speaker 7 (01:48:22):
He did beat him out for that one MVP.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
He sure did, He sure did. I wonder what Barry
is saying to himself. And in private tonight, darn fleck Seed.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:48:37):
I mean, wow, I think we've talked about this before.
I think we all agree that before things got crazy
with you know, his hat size and so forth, Barry
Bonds was a Hall of Famer that was going to
have five hundred homers and five hundred steals. And I
guess he just saw Sosa and Maguire getting the attention.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Is that what we get?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
That's exactly right, and he said, I know that I'm
better than those guys.

Speaker 7 (01:48:59):
Watch this ruined his career, Yeah, he did his post
playing career.

Speaker 11 (01:49:03):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
I mean, look, the bottom line is, yeah, in the
world of accountability, there's there's not really fully anyone to
blame but himself.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
So you know, all the crimea River stuff is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
What it is.

Speaker 7 (01:49:16):
But I just don't want to hear from anybody when
Bond's names comes up, and I keep hearing this. You know,
he never tested positive when he was a major league
Oh gosh. I mean, there was no testing for most
of his major league career. His union didn't negotiate it,
they didn't allow it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
Guilty of sin.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
But but you know, to me, that doesn't necessarily preclude
you from the Hall of Fame and the other thing
that I find weird. What do you guys think about this?
Like Jeff Kent is in because he's second basement.

Speaker 7 (01:49:49):
Yes, because compared to other second basement right, ridiculous power numbers.
It was six straight years with one hundred RBI's you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Know what I mean, Like, it's not it's the boy
bucker just normal. He almost missed the man. I was like, oh,
we're about to have like I think, like, do streamers
fall out of the sky at Fox Sports Radio if.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
He misses two from thirty thirty six years, O knuck
that sucker.

Speaker 7 (01:50:14):
In the chiefs have tied it ten all late third.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
Ten ten ten ten, Yeah is the number.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
But anyway, Yeah, I just wonder what you guys all
thought about that because Jeff Kent, I mean, yeah, you
get credit for being a second baseman, but sometimes I
think it's weird that your numbers, your numbers are only
sparkly because of where they sent you out defensively, I
don't know, just a little bit, a little bit odd.
But and I'm sure that Barry would argue Jeff's numbers

(01:50:45):
were what they were because he's hitting behind Barry Bonds
like That's that's why they were what they were.

Speaker 7 (01:50:52):
But anyway, not that those were his only good seasons,
not that they were.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
His only good that they just happen to.

Speaker 7 (01:50:59):
Be exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
All right, Steve, great stuff tonight, great great great stuff tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:51:05):
Appreciate you as always.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
I gave me from ten to ten lot on the
line here, inching toward the fourth quarter. Here, yeh, buddy,
these two teams both have just a look about them.
They're just kind of limping everywhere they go.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
You just don't not quite sure what's going on, right.
You can keep looking under the hood and you're like,
I don't know what the problem is. So Carba Rato.
You know all today is working you just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Know, not quite working out. But here we are, and
indeed it is a big game. Live in the Fox
Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Back to set things up for playing, and Spaniard, get
a few more things off our chests.

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
Watch a little bit more of this game.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Stay right where you are, eat from salam Mark Ward,
Fox Sports Radio. Okay in these Fox Sports Radio studios. Yeah,
two more shows to go before U before we get
to the Christmas holiday and the playoffs really start to

(01:52:10):
take shape. By the way before we get out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
I know, I fully know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Nobody cares about anybody else's fantasy team, but I wanted
to give you an opportunity to manifest. So you're in
a bunch of leagues. I'm in a bunch of leagues.
Some of them are going well, some of them aren't
going well. We got five quarters of football left in

(01:52:38):
the fantasy regular season. Is there anything you need that
you want to put out there in the universe right now? No, man, nothing,
no nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
No. I just need players that are supposed to be
good to be good. That's it. I mean, just when
everybody else wants.

Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
But you're not grinding on anything right now. If you
have anybody in this game, you don't need to sneak in.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
No, all right, the ones that I'm in and we're done.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
For, you're either in or you're out. Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Yeah? It's you know, it is what it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
Is because I'm I'm up here. Like if Kymie Fairman
wants to kick a field goal, like, I'd be cool
with it, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
And if Dallas Godd wants to catch some balls tomorrow night,
I might that'd be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
Patrick Mahomes just threw a pick on the first play
of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Great long pass, but uh so it works as a punt,
which you don't usually do on first down.

Speaker 4 (01:53:38):
And so there you have it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
Texans get a pick and they've got the ball again.
Now this game has settled into a ten ten tie.

Speaker 4 (01:53:48):
I do want to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Remind everybody that with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream
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Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
You search Fox.

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Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
Of your screen when you get in there.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
So appreciate you being with us tonight, Mark Willard, Ephraim
Salaam doing our watch party for Sunday Night football. The
Chiefs and Texans doing their thing right now, as we said,
tied ten to ten. Also, though, like interesting conversation earlier
with regard to the Daniel Jones situation, what would you

(01:54:37):
do if you're the Colts, I.

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
Get like your point is a fascinating one.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
That costs Daniel a lot of money and a big
opportunity because I don't know, I don't know what the
league does with him now, you know, being that he's
going to I would think miss at least most of
next year two and he's on a one year deal.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
But that was the Colts quarterback plan. That's that's what
they were going to do.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
Anthony Richardson didn't work out. Daniel Jones is now, at
least in the very near term, that's not going to
work out.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
So now what.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
Year starting over? I mean, Leonard is your quarterbacks from
here on out and that's it. You you got to
figure out where you finish, uh in terms of a
draft if you can get there's a bunch of them

(01:55:37):
coming out next year.

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
Yeah, but you're you're not going to have a great pick.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
No, because you gave away your first round draft.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
Pick and you're good. I mean you're still eight and
five at this hour, right, so even that pick, Oh,
don't you dare spot that ball? I'm looking like this
is this you dare spot that ball?

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
There? Bro that that you see what I'm saying, though, right,
you saw him right? Yeah, But like man, I'm like, bro,
I'm we're watching it live. So Texas were third in
forever and receiver Higgins J Higgins made a tremendous catch
for the first down and the line judge was spotting
it nowhere near the first down, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Like, he was completely out of position. Whoa, whoa, whoa
good lord. See that's where replay assist needs to be whispering.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
They're like, hey, man, y'all about y'all about to y'all
about to mess up.

Speaker 4 (01:56:31):
Anyway you were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
I just wonder like, is Daniel Jones still potentially Like
I don't know, is he the quarterback of twenty twenty
seven for the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
No, they would have moved on because they would have
had to have moved on. That's the whole thing. They
would have moved on because they would have had to
have moved on.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Well, you could bring him back now in theory for
real cheap and just then get a placeholder for next year.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
Yeah. But what I'm saying is was he good enough
for you to be like, we're going to bet the
future on him? Was he now? If he finishes the
season up and you guys win the division playoff. Like
if if he would have play continued to play as

(01:57:19):
well as he was, it's already been some slippage, but
he could have finished up on a high note, similar
to Sam Darnold. Then that's a different conversation. But right
now everything is like, well we were already trending one way.

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
So yeah, three weeks ago, I know what their answer
would have been, Yeah, it's different. Now, yeah, I guess
it's different.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
It has been different, and that's the whole thing, man,
that's why you you got to show up a show
out every time. And so now they're in a situation
where it's not Richardson. That ship has sailed, and so
now it's you put yourself in a situation where it's like,

(01:58:07):
all right, well.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
What do we do?

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
All right, Well, who's going to be available next year?
Who wants to Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
Yeah, you know, well that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
I still think it might be like if you don't
found Daniel Jones this year, so so yeah, so who's
your placeholder next year?

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
We'll see somebody's going to be available. You want Kyler Murray,
he'll be available. Kirk Cousins will be available, well, Kirk
Cousins is, well, maybe not because Alana is I mean, yeah,
who knows. Yeah, no, it won't be ready for you.
You want Kyler Murray, he'll be available.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
You want to call the forty nine ers about and
see if you can probe Mac Jones out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
He'll be available as well, So they're options. But the
it won't be Daniel Jones. Gosh, what a crazy day,
man Like I said, at least one hundred and fifty million.
That is rough you want living right there. But Dylan
Gabriel he's an option as well. He will be available.

(01:59:05):
So there are options out there and will be available
outside of the draft and you maybe get a you know,
draft somebody in the third round or something like that too.
You think you can develop and bring in and whatever.
But it's a shame that that happened to him.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Great talking to you tonight, show brother Absolutely for e
from salam I Mark Wheeler to keep it right here
on Fox Sports Radio.

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