Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam react to Patrick Mahomes Season Ending Injury, what is going on in the NFC South, Joe Burrow’s concerning comments & MORE!

Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam react to the news of Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes suffering a torn ACL, if this is really the end of the Chiefs dynasty & Travis Kelce’s future hanging in the balance. The guys dive into their three things from the week including Joe Burrow’s concerning comments, the NBA cup & more. Mark wonders where are those people that said Mac Jones should’ve remained the 49ers starting QB + Mark and Ephraim try to figure out what is going on in the NFC South after the Panthers fell to the Saints, and the winner of the division won’t have a winning record.  

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
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all of us to open up some good Some of
them had donkeys in them.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
We got to get through all of this live here
in the Fox Sports Radio studios. It is Mark willerdned
from Salaam on Fox Sports Sunday, and our personal watch
party get started shortly Vikings and Cowboys. If we cannot
laugh at ourselves, then what are we really doing here
on planet Earth? That sounds like a boar to me,
And tonight I'm laughing at us, or at least I'm

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preparing to. Because there are sometimes things that I think
we say as a general rule that I don't think
we actually believe.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think we want to believe them.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
You'll hear people every time we get to the NFL
playoffs in the super Bowl. They'll say, I want fresh blood,
I want something new. And in general in life, do
we like things that are new? I would argue no.
If they come to you at your job and they
go everyone, sit down. We're making some changes. We're gonna

(01:11):
do some new things. The first thing you go is
oh bleep. So I don't think we actually like newness
as much as we think we do. We get to
put it to the test because Eve from good evening,
from a whole new world.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The Kansas City Chiefs are gone.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Bye bye wow.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And I like the injury part of it is completely separate, because.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
The Chiefs were gonna be gone either way.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Boy, I hope a Chiefs fan, if you're listening to
us tonight, please please, just for the sake of all
of our mental sanity, do not say, well, we had it,
but then Patrick got hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Please no, no, no, no, please don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You didn't have it yet.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yes, Patrick missed the playoffs, not just the Chiefs. Yes,
that happened. I don't care that the final interception was
thrown by Gardner Minshew. It doesn't even matter. If you
had come back in one today. You weren't making it.
You weren't gonna make it through this whole thing. So
there's that, and then we'll get to the Patrick part.
But the AFC as wide open as it has ever been,

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and all of these quarterbacks Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, if
he's able to get there, and then the new ones
with Herbert and bo Nix and Drake May, they're all
gonna have their shot and they can't blame Mahomes forgetting
in the way.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Now, the crazy part about the I guess you would
say the old guard I would consider you know, Patrick
and Josh and La and Lamar part of they're not

(02:58):
old heads, but they're like, oh right, they're like acles
right right. And and you got a lot of youngsters
who are are playing out of their mind, and you
have some you know, you got one og stuck in there,

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and we'll see him play tomorrow night, and that's Aaron Rodgers.
But when you look right now, prior to the game
that's about to come on, if you look at the teams,
the seven teams that are poised to make the playoffs,
you got the Broncos with the number one seed and
bow Nicks. You have New England the number two seeds

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right with Drake May. You have h the the Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Or the Texans right the Texans either ether or have
to get the three.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
You have a Trevor Lawrence. You have Pittsburgh at the
four seed. Kind of in the middle. We're not quite
sure if that'll play out. That that way. But as
of right now, that's Aaron Rodgers, the old head, I
mean the og do. You have the Chargers with Justin
Herbert Buffalo, big win for them today, huge win for

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them today with an Unk and Josh Allen. And you
have Houston right now in the seventh seed with a
very very young, but playoff experienced C. J. Stroud. So

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when you're looking at the landscape of the league, you
can see the shift there. Currently there is no Lamar Jackson. No,
there won't be a Patrick Mahomes, and so you have
an opportunity now. I think the most pressure in the

(05:01):
spotlight really is on the back of a Josh Josh
Allen because you don't have to go through anyone anymore.
You don't have to go through a Joe Burrow, you
don't have to go through a Lamar or a Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Might need to go through Lamar. But I hear you, like.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Can you, As we're sitting right right, right right, I.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Mean, they're gonna have another shot.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
They're gonna have a shot. You're gonna have plenty of
a shot. They're seven and seven. We'll see what the
Steelers do. And obviously those two teams they finished the
year playing against against one another, probably maybe, I mean,
the Ravens do have an unbelievable final three games. I
don't know if you've looked ahead at this, but the Ravens,
I mean, okay, nice win today. It might have been

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their last. Patriots next week at Lambeau the week after that,
and then they will go to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
So there their road to this you gotta earn it, yep,
is going to be very, very difficult, but they're in it.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
But yeah, dude, like what you are saying, can you
imagine if Josh Allen enters it if we had said
this to it at the beginning of the year, I
would argue, you could not put more pressure on this
young man's shoulders.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
If we had said to you, hey, hey, Josh, you're.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Going to make the playoffs and when you get there,
Patrick Lamar and Joe all won't join you, wouldn't you
say you better go you you better go to Santa Clair, dude,
And and and we'll see how this plays out. But
as of right now, he gonna have to do it

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on the road because he's like, I know, they won today,
so they got a shot, but they're still right now
are not in line to win that division. The Patriots
are gonna have to stumble again.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those things where this is
an exciting fighting three weeks left of the season. Hell yeah,
it's really exciting. I'm excited for it. I know football
fans around the world are excited for it. And you know,
we got some stuff in NFC as well.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh baby, you know, oh baby, I mean.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
It was some amazing games today. Just FYI, a tremendous
almost was late to work because I couldn't leave, right
was late to work. I couldn't leave. I was My
son was like, hey man, you're still here.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, I think we knew going into the week, knowing
that the Packers were going to play the Broncos and
the Lions were going to play the Rams, and uh
and I think to a degree, the Seahawks going against
the Colts, the Chargers going against the Chiefs like this,
this was all this was, you know, and the Bills

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going against the Patriots like this was set up up
to be a game changing kind of a weekend and
a lot of movement, and it did not disappoint for
everybody who wants to keep saying that those Denver Broncos
keep getting by on the skin.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Of their chinny chinchin. You know, they are on the
chinna chinchin.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
And it's like, so maybe they're not actually real Well,
I mean, now, they just beat the Packers, they just
beat the Chiefs a few weeks ago. They just went
into Houston and won a football game in November.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I know they've won a lot of close games, but
they are starting to they're starting to put a resume together.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
They're going to win their last the next two games,
and they're going to rest every bread Well I wouldn't
rest everybody, because you win the next two games, you're
going to have the number one seat you so you're
going to get a bye. So they may approach it
as their starters come out and play the first quarter
or a series or something, maybe like a preseason game,

(09:01):
because you know, you have a week off. But the
Jaguars come to town and then they go to Kansas
City without Patrick Gardner.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Men, sure, you would think yep.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
And so when you look at how they've set themselves up,
this is this is perfect for them. And all year,
like you said, well, they haven't beat anybody. They haven't
played anybody. Just beat everybody on their schedule, right, they
just beat everybody that you put in front of them. Well,
they lost to the Colts by a point.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Right, and I always the qualifier is always in there.
Do not forget how they lost that football game. Right,
They won that game except for a penalty on the
last play of the game, which was questionable, but it
gave the Colts a second shot at the game winning
field goal. It counts. I'm not saying that they didn't
lose the game. They did, but yeah, it's that and

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their three point loss to the Charger, the Chargers of
the week later, they're they're as much as we go.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Man, they're barely winning. They are almost undefeated.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Seriously, and so you have to recognize that. You have
to recognize the fact that their defense and their offense
playing complementary basketball, and that's what you want. And they're
special teams. We very rarely mentioned special teams outside of
a kicker missing the kick. But their special teams is

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also playing at a level that it just is giving
them good field position, it's backing teams up, you're getting
an array. It's just a good team. They're well coached,
They got a lot of young talent. Uh, and there
it's you know, Harvey had a rib injury late in

(10:44):
that game, so keep an eye out on that. But
I was impressed by the way they went about their
business today. It was a tough games, big game, hot
Green Bay team, and they handle their business.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Just tremendous stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
But at the same time, that's kind of what I'm
getting at, Like I know that we go I'm so
just the same way we used to do the Patriots
and the Brady So sick of them.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Everybody show up at the super Bowl party, so sick
of this team.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And how many years has it been since the Chiefs
weren't in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
What? What four years since the Chiefs weren't in the
Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And now yeah, and now they're not even going to
be in the playoffs. And so.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
I don't know, Ephraim, Like if if if bo Nicks, please,
Sam Darnold.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Or Jordan Love, God forbid, Caleb.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Williams, God forbid.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
But that's but if that's the super Bowl, I don't
want to hear anybody give me the old like way,
I got nothing to see my teeth into here, Like
if you ask for new then get ready for new.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Oh it's new, Yep, yep, it's new, and it's impressive. Uh,
it's this is this is These young players are playing
out of their mind and I love it. I'm here
for it because we get accustomed to talking about those
top four quarterbacks. Not so much Joe Burrow lately, but

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the Lamars, the Allens, the uh and the Mahomes. Sure
we got a new crop. We got a new crop.
And look, you can say what you want about Houston,
but c J. Stroud has been in the league three years,
and three years they're gonna be in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well if their offense, which is starting to hamala, if
their offensive line will give CJ. Stroud time. Hey, they
did today. Now they're playing the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's it, man, you play who you play. It's late
in the season. You got to be able to win
those games.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I know, but we're seven days removed from when the
Texans couldn't move the ball in the second half in
Kansas City. So I'm not like done with this. But
my point is is, if that offensive line gives CJ time,
then that is absolutely a super Bowl threat. With the
defense that the Houston Texans possess they're to me, they're

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the best in the league.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Neil Hunter and Will Anderson, Yeah, on the book ends.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
And the other thing which I want to get to
coming up next is you know, there's a lot of
football teams hell. You know, the Chargers have been one
of them, The forty nine Ers have certainly been one
of them.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
The Tampa Bay Bucks were one of them.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
At certain points in the year where you sit there
somewhat early in the year and go, man, our season
is ruined by injury. If you can hang in there,
then maybe come January you're actually the healthy team. Cuz
look what happened today. And it's not just Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
The list of at least head scratchers right now where
you're like, ooh, how's that going to affect the playoffs
got pretty long today. So let's go through a few
of those names.

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names at you. And I don't know anything official. We
know that Patrick Mahomes has a torn ACL that's already
being reported and he's already tweeted about it and whatnot.

(16:18):
So okay, and the Chiefs aren't going to the playoffs anyway.
They fall to six and eight today. But I'm no doctor.
It certainly looked to me like what a torn ACL
looks like with Micah Parsons of the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
How does that affect the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I mean, that's a just one of the top defensive
edge rushers in the league. I mean it affects the
playoffs to the standpoint that that have to have it
that Chris Jones will Chris Jones is meant to the
Chiefs the last three Super Bowl runs. It's a real

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thing that one special guy you have on your team.
That's what he's there for. And it can come down
to a play. It can come down to a pressure
and Micah is that guy. Without him drawing the attention
of multiple offensive linemen, it may be a situation where

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you know you double somewhere, you double somewhere else, and
you don't feel the need to have to game plan.
And that's a that's huge in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yep, yep. I mean we see that around the league
a lot.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
By the way, first pass, first pass for JJ McCarthy
of the night gets intercepted. It was a batted ball,
batted ball on a secondary blitz that then got tipped
around a little bit and ended up in the hands
of a cowboyssive lineman.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So JJ McCarthy is oh for one with a pick
and the.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Cowboys have the ball at the opponent's thirty five short
field for them on their first possession of the game.
Keep you up to date there, But I think what
you're talking about, my friend, we see it all over
the league. The top example that pops to my mind
is watching what has happened to the San Francisco forty
nine ers defensive line this year in the absence of

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Nick Bosa. And when you take that one dude, and
we know who the dudes are around the league, we'll
see what happens with the Steelers rush tomorrow with no TJ.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Watt.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
When you take that one dude off, it allows the
offensive line to completely change the way that it's kind
of focusing its attention, and the trickle down effect is
just unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
That may talk to it, Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
And why am I talking to you offensive lineman?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Go ahead, no, because you're absolutely right. Mark. It's one
of those situations where the night before the game, like
when I had the Freenies and the Jason Taylors and
the Bruce Smiths, the Charles Hayleys, the straight hands, the
night before the game for me was uneasy. Right, I'm

(19:17):
running through the plays, I'm looking at the first fifteen.
I'm like, why are there nine passing plays in the
first fifteen? And I have a beast that I have
to go against. All of those things matter. And I
remember playing in Houston, I believe it was two thousand
and seven, two thousand and six, six seven, where we

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were playing the Colts at home. It was on Christmas
Eve and we came up with a game plan to
nullify Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis. They're supreme d rushers.
I think both of them had over, you know, eleven
twelve sacks at the time, and we were like, we're
taking them out of the game. We're running third and eight, third, nine,

(20:01):
it doesn't matter. We're getting a nickel and we're gonna
run the ball. And that's what happened, and that's we won.
But I say that to say that's how much attention
and focus that we play. We pay attention to those
edge rushers like a Michael Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys
with a little flippity dippity trickery.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Speaking of paying attention, I'm listening to you. Yeah, I got,
I got, Holy hell, that was something else. Brandon Aubrey
is a weapon as a kicker, and it turns out, hey,
you can rush the ball a little bit too. How
about that a heck of a flip trickeration. The holder
flips it over his right shoulder to Aubrey, who takes
off for a first down.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
He really could have threw the ball for a touchdown.
But I guess, you know, yeah, you know, whatever, pick
your battles. That was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
That was slick.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
So the Cowboys move the chains and now they're in
the high red zone. Still scoreless, very very early first quarter.
But yeah, like that has a huge effect. And then
the other one, they clinched a playoff spot today did
they win the battle and potentially damage the war? DeVante
Adams boy, he came up lame and he was battling

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a hamstring injury before the game.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
There was a period of time where Pooka Nakua left too.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Wow, And I'm like, hold the phone right if DeVante
and Pooka are both out.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Puka did return, but both of.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Those guys are now battling, and I don't know if
people are thinking of this. You know how long the
Rams have to rest before they play again. That would
be four days, and their trip is to Seattle. This
is a monster game for the whole NFC West that
has three double digit win teams already, and it sounds

(21:47):
like I'd be surprised at this point if the Rams
aren't at least a little bit hampered going into that game.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Well yeah, but you know, when you look at Matthew
Stafford and Veay and that offense it was literally like, man,
this is this is crazy right, Like he has such
command over the ball and he threw an early pick.

(22:15):
It was a heck of a play by Hutchinson and
just a tremendous, tremendous play. He was trying to hit
the tight end who had who had blocked him, and
then was going out into a little screen and he
just zeroed it in and and you know, intercepted it
and ran it back about forty forty five yards. But
Matthew Stafford, when you watch him spin the ball and

(22:37):
you watch him drop back and pass it, it is
a thing of beauty. He's always been able to make
every single throw. And just watching him, now, I guess
he's a He's I guess he can. He's an what
he's a triple he's an OG. I guess right.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
You gotta be gotta be gotta be a og. This
I know. I know Philip Rivers is making him look young.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Rivers is a triple og.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
We gotta get to that too, speaking a triple og.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Say it, do it, Steven triple og de Seger, Come
on the update, good evening, gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
We do have the Sunday night game underway with Dallas
hosting Minnesota, and it was looking like that pass interception
off the arbor JJ McCarthy, his first throw of the night,
was going to turn into a Dallas field goal. With
the trick play, the drive continues. They've driven down to
the Minnesota two yard line, Dallas facing a fourth and
one at the two. For the moment, it is scoreless

(23:34):
against the Vikings, about nine minutes to go in the
first quarter. What else happened this NFL Sunday, Well, the
Broncos clinched to playoff birth, the Rams clinched to playoff birth.
The New England Patriots blew a chance to clinch the
division today blew a home lead, lost to Buffalo. New
England's ten game winning streak is over that Denver win.

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By the way, they're still undefeated at home and they've
won eleven in a row. Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs quarterback,
not only not going to the playoffs, he suffered a
torn acl late in the loss to the Chargers. Packers
pass rusher Micah Parsons believe to have tough for the
torn acl. My goodness, A lot of things going on.

(24:18):
We still got a game tomorrow and one that's just
starting tonight. The Denver win was thirty four to twenty
six over Green Bay bo Nicks, with four touchdown passes
Denver twelve and two number one in the AFC. The Rams,
onto the postseason, got a home win against Detroit forty
one thirty four Rams are eleven and three. Rams wide
receiver Devonte Adams did leave with the hamstring injury. Seattle

(24:42):
will be hosting the Rams on Thursday. Seahawks wanted home
against the Colts today eighteen sixteen on a late fifty
six yard field goal. The Colts had just taken the
lead on a sixty yard field goal. India has lost
five of six. Philip Rivers, just signed this week, had
a touchdown pass for a thirteen to three halftime lead
at the time. San Francisco at home beat Tennessee thirty

(25:03):
seven to twenty four. Niners were up thirty one ten
late in the third quarter brock Purty three touchdown passes,
one fumble, two hundred ninety five yards passing the Titans
fall to two and twelve. The Saints got a home
win and a comeback against Carolina twenty to seventeen on
a forty seven yard field goal in the final seconds.
The Saints trailed seventeen to seven late in the third quarter.

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Kansas City's home loss puts the record at six and eight.
Chargers won at the Chiefs sixteen thirteen after trailing thirteen
to three late in the first half. Buffalo a winner
at New England thirty five thirty one. The Pats had
led this one at halftime twenty four to seven. Jacksonville
won its fifth straight game, blitzing the Jets forty eight
to twenty. Trevor Lawrence five touchdown passes and a touchdown

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run and three hundred and thirty yards passing. Houston won
at six straight game, forty to twenty over the Cardinals,
who've lost six straight. Texans led seventeen nothing in the
first quarter. It was pretty much over there because Houston,
with the best defense in the league, allows only sixteen
points per game. Philadelphia shut out the Raiders thirty one nothing.
Las Vegas has lost eight in a row. The Raiders

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offense today had only seventy five net yards on forty
two plays, less than two yards of play for a
full NFL game. Seven first downs today compared to Philadelphia's
twenty seven first downs. Chicago and the cold blitz Cleveland
thirty one to three. Caleb Williams two touchdown passes to

(26:33):
DJ Moore. Washington ended an eight game losing streak, winning
twenty nine twenty one at the Giants, who have now
lost eight in a row. Baltimore's up to seven and
seven after a twenty four to nothing victory at Cincinnati.
Lamar Jackson two touchdown passes in the second quarter. This
after the Ravens offense in the first quarter had nine
yards on nine plays. By the end of things, Derrick

(26:56):
Henry eleven carries one hundred yards rushing to the NBA
tonight it is just final. At Atlanta, the hawksbeat Philadelphia
one twenty to one seventeen despite thirty five points from
Paul George. Wins for Washington and Brooklyn. Charlotte won in
overtime at Cleveland, and among the games in progress, the
Pelicans at four and twenty two are leading mid third

(27:19):
quarter at Chicago seventy two to fifty nine. In the
NHL at Minnesota, three minutes left, wild up six' one
over Boston. Women's basketball wins for Texas for Louisville in overtime.
The Diamondbacks re signed pitcher Merrill Kelly, and it is,
as you reference, for the Kansas City chief something of
an end of an era. I think that's realistic to say,

(27:40):
not only mathematically eliminated from the postseason, that means they're
not going to another Super Bowl. They had been to
three straight. They're not going to another conference title game.
They had been to seven straight. Kansas City's ten straight
playoff berths. That record streak, I should say, end the
record eleven straight. Tom Brady and the Patriots and the

(28:03):
Chiefs on top of that, as a franchise, had won
a playoff game in seven straight seasons. Just shy of
what the Pats did through twenty eighteen, eight straight seasons.
What about the future of Andy Reid, who's starting sixty eight.
What about the future of future Hall of Fame tight
end Travis Kelcey. And for those who didn't hear Patrick Mahomes,

(28:24):
Chiefs quarterback tore An acl late in the game today
lost at home, eliminated Back to you.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Is Patrick Mahomes? You guys like I know this can vary.
Is he ready for the start of next year?

Speaker 4 (28:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
It gets December fourteen.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
Yeah, that doesn't look good. No, even the Daniel Jones
thing with the Achilles. They're saying, Okay, six to eight
months so camp, he should be fine in camp.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
They've been talking to six to eight months for an
achilles since when.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
That was what they said this week.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean, like an Achilles, we talked about that last week.
I thought like, I'm like, I don't even know if
he's gonna play it at.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
All next year, Right, that's what that's the filling I got.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Six to eight months for an achilles.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Hey man, they're constantly making medical advances.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers loved to tease everybody that
he was gonna be back in seven days, but he wasn't.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Power of positive thinking. Philip Rivers just gonna be signed
for like the first practice game.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
And then how fun was that?

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Like it was silly, it was fun and it's scary
at the same time.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Right, there was a lot of emotions. I had some
sadness at times. There was it was a little whimsical.
Then you're like, I'm not sure what's happening, and then
it was like are you gonna win?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
And then the funniest thing of all is who in
the NFL? What? What quarterback.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Ever, are you facing a third and seven, you're down
by two points and you're at the you're at the
fifty from you're at the fifty and your coach is like, a.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Hell, let's run it. And they ran it. And then
that kicker came out and he hit it.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
He hit it from sixty yards. But Shane Steiken basically
just conceded. He's like, I do not want Philip Rivers
dropping back on this play.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
And then Steiken was literally laughing on the sidelines when
the kick actually went through for the late lead at Seattle.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
But at least he was in Rivers facing I don't
want to insult Seattle, but he wasn't facing the elite
defense like Denver, for example, which I'm sure would have
ended Philip Rivers day early. I mean, the Broncos led
the NFL in sacks last year. They lead the NFL
by a wide margin in sacks this year. Their pressure

(30:50):
rate is the best in the NFL. Forty percent of
the time the opposing quarterback dropped back he feels pressure.
Tonight it was over fifty percent against your in love
with green Bank.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, did Philip did he
earn himself another start? I don't know anything about Wiley
Leonard's health, but like Monday Night Football, next week San
Francisco at.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Indy, he'll only be better than he was today.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
You look at it like, yeah, I mean he actually
drove them down and sort of and I mean put
them in position to win the game.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Four point four yards per attempt.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Wouldn't that have been a great story.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
How many catches did wide receivers? I want to look
at this wide receivers no two, three, four, seven, seven balls.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
They would be running past the line of scripts.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Well, they're leading receiver thirty two yards on the day,
was a running back?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
They're running back? Correct?

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, because they're they're closer to you and you can
get the ball to them faster.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Let's just say it out loud. This is not unique
to the NFL. The Steelers have had multiple games like
that this year with that offense.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah. Because their arm is old too. Yep, not that old,
but not stretching it. No, dust is dust.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
It's kind of the most fun guy ever to do
this too, because it's like I loved his answer. This
week someone asked him about his weight, and he was like,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
He's like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I don't know what my weight is.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
But then he pointed out, he goes, I just want
to let anyone know I wasn't running that way from
anybody five years ago.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
And if you know Philip Rivers game, he wasn't running
away from anyone.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Fifteen years ago, right, thank you?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, So like whatever.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
And wasn't ever quarterback sneaking.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Either, No, no, no.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
By the way, the update, Dallas did score a touchdown
one yard TD run Javonte Williams seven to nothing Cowboys
over Minnesota about five and a half minutes to go
first quarter.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Great stuff, Steve Hey. The last thing on.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
The Philip Rivers did you see the Jake report that
he to use cleats this week because you know he
hasn't played in five years. Yeah, he actually took the
cleats out of his trophy cabinet in his house and
then went on the road to go play for Indy.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I mean, this thing is a Disney movie, wow, except
for they lost. So it's kind of like, well, I
don't know if we're going to write a script about that.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Well, no, if they if they went out or something,
and make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well then then yes, then you got something. Then you
got something.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I look, if I were Disney's cameras, I'd go next
Monday night. It's mister irrelevant against a forty four year
old grandpa who pulled cleats out of a bin in
order to like, what on earth is happening in this
football game next week?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Mister irrelevant versus mister medicare but security.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
The reality is if the season ended today, Colts would
not make the playoffs for a game back of Houston
for the last but just like Detroit would not.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Well, let me tell you this. Let me give you
some insight here. What now Philip Rivers has about twelve
children fifteen?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I love, I love that we have to use the
word about when talking.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
About I don't know if I mean this may spawn
a new offspring, because I know he was pumping those
things out all while he was playing. At one point
it was nine. I'm not sure how many they have now.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Oh, I think you're right. I think it's twelve. And
I was kidding about a grandpa. You know that one
of his kids?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yes, yes, yes, As funny as this may seem, and
it a little bit of it is just but no,
this is what we're telling. We're telling the facts. And
I told him this. By him playing this week and
being on the active roster, he has restart his clock.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
In terms of having health insurance, oh, he was five
years out of Oh he was five years out of
the league, which means you no longer have health insurance,
you're no longer covered, you are your family by the NFL. Wow,

(35:12):
that is five years after player retires, that is their
healthcare ends.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
That is brilliant.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I didn't when I was forty years old. Yeah, when
I got a letter from the leagues and hey, not
sure what you're doing, but February you don't have health insurance.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
What what health insurance company does the NFL work with?
Do we know?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
I don't remember anymore. I've locked it out of my
mind because I was furious.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Anyway, I wonder, I wonder if you United Healthcare is
having a meeting right now or something right Hold on
a second.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Thank you players Union for not getting us lifetime healthcare.
But that's another day.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Like twenty people are suddenly covered again.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
But now, yes, now he has a family of oh gosh,
of forty that are now covered. There now they're now
covered for the next Well, however long he plays, if
he loved out this year, he got five more years
after this year. So congratulations.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's the best part of the story.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Easy.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, we're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios and
we're just getting started. The Cowboys have the ball back
deep in their own nd. They're already up seven to nothing.
We got all kinds of things to talk about here,
Week fifteen, National Football League, Mark Willardy from Salam Fox
Sports Radio. We're gonna get to our three things at
the top of the hour, our top observations of the week.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
That was looks like.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Looks like a touchdown for the Vikings. We'll see Jalen Naylor.
That is the call on the field, so we'll check that.
But the Vikings may have just drawn even Walston. Yeah,
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(37:26):
I just texted with a friend of mine who's an
orthopedic surgeon and asked, does Mahomes play at the start
of next season? And his answer was, QB's typically land
around ten months after surgery, so he could potentially be
back by week one, although my math and his math

(37:48):
might be different, because I think week one is less
than ten months away from right now, maybe ten months
ish nine and a half. But he also says if
he as any other ligament injuries or moniscus tears, that
could push things back another month. The good news is
quarterbacks do really well performance wise coming off ACL surgery,

(38:09):
much different than wide receivers, running backs, and defensive linemen
like Micah Parsons.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, there's a chance that he'll be ready at some
point during the season, but I'm willing to go out
on the limb and be like, not at the beginning,
we don't know the extent of the injury yet, and
no we don't. They'll be able to do that after
the MRI and then we'll figure out when he actually

(38:38):
wants to have surgery. If they're swelling, they want to
let the swelling get down a little bit, do some
things to strengthen the quad and the hamstring before surgery
so the muscle doesn't atrophy too much. But there's a
process here. It's not like a break where you can

(38:58):
go in and put some pins in and you know
that I'm gonna go have surgery, right Like justin Herbert
broke his hand a week and a half or two
weeks ago, and that next month, that Monday after he
broke his hand, it's a fractious break. You know what
you need to go in you put a pin in boom.
When you're dealing with repairing ligaments, they're different, great, different

(39:22):
situations that you need to take in consideration before you
hand out a start date.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yes, correct, Like I.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Mean we sit here on December fourteenth, and as you said,
even if it's all ready to roll, like, he's not
having surgery today. So you got to start the clock
whenever the surgery happened.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Right, And that could be a week. It could be
you know, a couple of days, could be a month. Yeah,
you don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So this is a this is this
is a tree shaker for the entire league, no doubt
about it. Not just the Chiefs missing the playoffs, but
the fact that Patrick Homes, if you're just joining us,
has confirmed a torn acl and is at best a
question mark for the start of next season.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, one hour in, lots to do, three things
coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, here we go as we continue Week fifteen National
Football League. And in this particular week, maybe it's just
the time of year. Maybe it's the fact that there
were so many great matchups today it feels like we
need hell eat from like a machete to sift away through.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Everything that needs to be discussed. Today.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
We had a forty four year old grandpa played football
today and almost win a game.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
We had one of the faces.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Of the league a couple of days ago actually sound
like he was questioning whether or not even wanted to
play again, and he hadn't even turned thirty yet. So
there's that so much more that we need to get to,
and I bet a little bit of it might come
up in what we like to do at this hour
every week, and that is our three things, each of
us go through our top three observations from the entire

(41:14):
week of football and maybe just a little bit beyond.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
So let's go ahead and do it.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Fired up, Let's play three things, and as always, I'm
gonna go first, so you can go last. This one's
gonna sound random. Maybe it shouldn't sound random, maybe it
should sound ransom.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Here's what I mean. I don't know about you e
from as a fan football, all sports, it can always
be frustrating. You root for certain teams whatever, if it's fantasy,
you root for certain players, and that's all baked into
the whole cake, which is that root. We get frustrated.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
But there is one one kind of play that I
find almost unbearable. And thankfully this wasn't my team today.
But I bet most of you don't know who Latham
Ransom is. There's a young defensive player for the Carolina Panthers.
And if you saw the end of this game in

(42:12):
New Orleans today, seventeen seventeen tie, less than ten seconds
left to go in the game, and the Saints have
the ball just just barely shy of midfield. The Panthers
go into a kind of a pre event.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Way was right. So the Saints snapped the ball to
their quarterback, their young quarterback, Tyler Shuck, and basically there's
no pass rush, there's nothing going on in the middle
of the field.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
So he just decides, I'm just gonna run him. He's
gonna take off and run right up the middle and
maybe at least get to a spot where we could
try I don't know, fifty five fifty seven yard field
goal something like that.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
So he does. So he runs and then he goes
into his quarterback slide and Hansom lays on him what
I would.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Characterize as a hit that would be flagged one hundred
and eleven percent of the time that you do it.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
And I just, for the life of.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Me, I need someone who's played to help me understand
how something like that can even happen. It feels like,
I don't want to sit here and call it this.
It feels like the most brainless thing that can happen
on a field, something so obvious.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It hands the Saints fifteen yards.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
They kick the ball easily through the upright, They win
the football game, and the Panthers' chances to take over
first place in the NFC South go flying through those
two yellow uprights. Crazy to me. And if I were
a Panther fan, if I were Steph Curry tonight, I
don't know if I'd be able to handle that play. Wow,

(43:56):
that was tough one to watch.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah, I just number one, And shame on the defensive
coordinator for calling whatever that defense was. The reason Schuck
took off and ram was. There was no one there.
I'm talking about, no detackle, no linebacker, no one in
a situation where you know they need as many yards
as possible. It wasn't even about trying to get the

(44:20):
first down. It was cover the center at least. And
so it was a situation where he caught the defense
off guard and this young man panicked because he saw
him running unabated down the middle of the field and
completely brainwhift on him taking a slide and him not

(44:47):
hitting him. So shame on the defense and that was called.
It was just a bad look all the way around. Obviously,
we still were trying to figure out who the Carolina
Panthers were, and they had an opportunity to solidify themselves
as put themselves in position to win the division. They

(45:09):
don't want it, so We're back at where we were
prior to the game. Who are they and when does
that other shoe fall off for them? This was a
perfect opportunity with Tampa Big losing for them to come
out of that division or out of that game leading
the division with three games left. Yep, yeah, just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
And now with no teams having a winning record in
that division. So the third or fourth year in a row,
and you and I can do this later today, you
and I can have yet another conversation about whether or
not the playoffs structure should be the way it is.
Three double digit win teams in the NFC West, A
couple of them are going to have to travel, and

(45:51):
one of them is going to travel to whoever wins
that stupid NFC South and they'll be favored by the way,
and they'll be on the road, and we can yell
about that for third fourth year.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
In row, you had football all the way around. Man
minus I'm gonna talk about the the Cincinnati Bengals. We
all heard Joe Burrow and his sound last week. But
he's not having fun and he doesn't want to do this,

(46:21):
or he doesn't want to do it. If he's not
having fun. Well, I could promise you today he wasn't
having fun.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
My goodness.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
This is the This may be the the the knell
and the coffin. When it comes to his relationship with
the Cincinnati Bengals, I don't think he's they survived this season.
I don't think now. I think he wants out and
I think he wants out now now.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Just to toss in there and I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
He did clarify air quotes after the game today and
said that that those comments were not about Cincinnati or
the back.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Yeah, okay, anyway, go ahead, right, especially coming off this
game zero points, through the ball forty times almost for
twenty five yards, two interceptions, no touchdowns. It just it's

(47:22):
one of those situations where you just feel like, why
do I have to show up to work? Watching this
team play against the Baltimore team that's not very good
with the Lamar Jackson, who there is a clone of
the Lamar Jackson were used to seeing. They just showed

(47:45):
they didn't show up at all, and it was hard
to watch, especially the caliber of quarterback Joe burrow Is
and the offensive weapons they have. It's a bad look.
And I think this is the beginning of the end
for their relationship.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I'll just add it loops right into my number two
because it was going to also be about Joe Burrow,
and before we go any deeper.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Into it, we should let everybody here if they happen
to miss it.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Earlier this week, a couple of pieces of the press
conference that happened, by the way, on his twenty ninth birthday.
This was on Wednesday. Take a listen to Joe Burrow
talking about fun.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I don't want to keep doing this.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I have to have fun doing it.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
You know, I've been through a lot, and if it's
not fun, then what am I doing it for? You see,
like through something on your mind.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
There's just a lot of things going on right now.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
A lot of things going on right now, all related personally.
I'll do both. Okay, So listen.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
I'm not one who comes down athletes roads because oh
they make a lot of money, and I don't want
to hear you complain like life is hard no matter
how much money you make.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
It can be.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
But Joe, also to your point, Ephrom, I really think
needs to kind of get in touch with something here,
because when you say we get it, man, he's been
through some crazy injuries.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
And that's tough. It absolutely is. But when you talk
about I'm not having fun and I've been through a lot,
and you make fifty five million dollars a year and
then you come out the following week, five days later
and you score zero points, it's just not going to
land well with the world. And I'm with you, Eve,

(49:35):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Believe him when he says this is not about Cincinnati.
To me, this absolutely is about something that had you
and I going crazy earlier this offseason. And no quarterback
would ever say it, because every quarterback wants great weapons.
But this is easily the most poorly constructed football team

(49:57):
in the NFL, And will go, wait, the Bengals, what
do you wait?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
What do you mean? What about the Raiders?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
What about the Yet those teams don't have Joe Burrow.
If you have Joe Burrow and you keep missing the
playoffs and you can't even get on the same page,
and your best defensive player is the one who gets disenfranchised,

(50:24):
all offseason turns into a high level showdown and it
bleeds into the season.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But you had no problem back in April spending over
seventy million.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
A year in one day on two wide receivers, but
you have no offensive line, none, you have no defense.
You won't pay any of your defensive players. This is
literally I'm sorry. The Bengals are playing fantasy football while
the rest of the league is playing real football. The

(51:00):
Bengals are wonderful for us because we love to boy,
we love to draft them. But what a stupid, stupid
football team.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
It's unbelievable and it's tough to watch. Just watching the
neptness of that was a tough game to watch. And
like I said, it's not like Baltimore is the Baltimore
we've seen in the past, and you can't muster anything
up offensively, you can't stop them defensively. It just was was.

(51:33):
It was a difficult watch and it's going to be
interesting to see how this thing plays out with the
relationship between Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
No doubt, no doubt, fire Away, you're number two?

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Yeah, my number two? Where was it? It was my
number two? Man? What did I have it? I lost it?
You got me talking all about the I'm really oh,
I got it? Sorry, I'm on ah. I'm on a

(52:08):
negative rampage right now, So that's fine. Just watching watching
teams come out and try to compete no matter what
your circumstances are. That's why it was so hard on
the Bengals, because it just they just weren't competing. I

(52:30):
maybe one of the few people who watched the Bears
Browns game, and the disconnect between what's happening on the
field and the sideline, especially offensively, it's just too much.
It's too much. I mean, they're starting drives, they're coming

(52:50):
out of the quarter to the top of the quarter
after a long time out to start the second quarter,
and you get a penalty, a delay of game penalty.
The plays aren't being called in you know how many
times they started first and fifteen or first and twenty

(53:13):
in this game. And I'm thinking, I'm like, huh, Who's
to blame here? Is it the head coach, the offensive coordinator,
the quarterback. Like I'm trying to figure out where the
disconnect is and where the problem is. When I'm watching
the Cleveland Browns, it's tough to watch. Shoudu Or had

(53:36):
an awful game three interceptions, but he wasn't helped by
any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
He really wasn't that bad. If you watched him.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Right, and so I'm like, wow, there isn't a position
where are you trying to help the quarterback? Are you
trying to help the team? Are you just like, it
is what it is. We're going to try to get
one of the top two picks in the draft and
and start over at the quarterback position, because that's what

(54:08):
it's starting to feel like. Just watching them go out
and not be prepared to compete very difficult to watch.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
It's a lot of rookies on the field. And to
your point, I mean, you spent some time on our
show last week feeling like you had had enough of
the coaching staff of the Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
And I know you're not alone. I know you're not alone.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
It's too much, man, I can't take it because as
a former player, I know how much goes into preparing,
especially offensively during the week. I know how much you
have to do to be ready for any situation that
comes up in a game. And to watch them consistently

(54:57):
not be ready, I don't know, man. It's a head
scratcher for me. Yep, and I'm propelled ilex.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
There were a few games today where you can see
certain teams that have just totally decided that's a bad
enough And there are three that I'm pointing to, And yes,
the Cleveland Browns were absolutely one of them. Easy walk
in touchdown by the way for JJ McCarthy. This game
is going to be retied, extra point pending, but right now,

(55:25):
fourteen thirteen extra point on the way in this game
in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
But yes, the Cleveland Browns were one of them.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
The Las Vegas Raiders were another, and the New York
Jets were the third. Trevor Lawrence had the absolute day
of his life. And we're going to have a week
of like, ooh, the ten wins. Maybe Trevor Lawrence is
finally coming to his own watch him go to Denver
next week and watch what happens. That one was.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
A team that just wasn't even there.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Yeah, I mean I very I barely watch watch that game.
I just wanted to move on with life. So, you know, Jacksonville,
and I'm gonna take my hat off to him. I'm
not convinced. And I'm not a Jacksonville fan or Trevor
Lawrence fan.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
And I played, I played for the Jaguars. It just
I'm not sold. I'm not sold. And so We'll see
how this thing finishes. Right now, they're they're leading the division.
Pretty tough division. Uh, And so we'll see how this
thing plays out for him. Other than that, you know,
it's just a tough watch for me.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah, those games were pretty cringey. All right, quickly, last
one for me.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Do you remember a couple of weeks ago when I
was like, you know, outside of his injury, city Lamb
has put up some pretty decent numbers this year. But boy,
he's having a bad year. Let me hand that to
another wide receiver. I don't know how much of that
hard to watch Bengals Ravens game you actually took in.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
I watched the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Flowers has been an absolute negative for Lamar Jackson this year.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Now, he caught.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Three balls for sixty eight yards and a touchdown. If
he started you, if he started him in fantasy, yay
you zay. Flowers has dropped so many balls this year.
He has misplayed so many balls this year. He was
only targeted five times. He had those three catches. Would
you like to know what happened on the other two? Yes,

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one of them was a dropped touchdown and the other
one bounced off of his big four on his chest
and was picked off by the other team. And it's
all going to be totally swept under because the Ravens
win by twenty four points. I don't know what it
is about that team and wide receivers. They only attempted
twelve passes today as a team, I guess they didn't

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need to. But Zay Flowers, even going back to the
fumble at the one in the AFC title game, man,
I just I'm not sure. He's a young player. He's
flashed at times. I'm not sure what to do with
him right now because he is not helping his football team.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
No, he's not. He's another one of those problems that
Lamar's not playing well. He's not playing well, they're not
running the ball well, and defensively, they're just you know,
exposing themselves to you know, play big plays down the field.
Didn't happen today, even though Jamar Chase had a heck
of a day, no touchdowns, no points allowed. That helps

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that Baltimore Ravens team. But there's there's this like bizarro world.
But guess what, hey, man, the way it's shaken out,
they'll have plenty of time this offseason to work on
some things because teams are playing like they don't want
to make the playoffs, and that's a head scratcher for me.
My third one, let's go to the NBA and shout
out to the San Antonio Spurs for beating the twenty

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at the time twenty four and one OKC Thunder and
the Emirates Cup semi finals. Victor woman Yamba had it's
I guess about seven eight games with a CAF strain,
and he came back and played twenty one minutes and
had a heck of a game. Watching Victor play against
a team like OKC, that's must see TV.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
It was such a great game. And I mean they
won by two, that's how intense that was. And you
literally have two unguardable forces on the court, one in
Victor and the other one in Shay Guildris for OKC,
and it was a masterful back and forth. And it
wasn't a like one fifty to one forty nine. It

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was nothing like that. It was a defensive battle, but
sprinkled in with some dynamic and unbelievable offensive plays by
Victor and uh Shay. And look, OKAC was at full strength.
They had everybody healthy, everybody participated, and if that's the

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Western Conference Finals coming down to pipe, then we're going
to be blessed with one heck of a seven game series.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yep, that was a very very good watch. And O case,
he's got to be careful.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
This is word to the wise this whole like, we
really want that seventy four win record. Ah, keep your
eyes on the prize, That's all I'm saying. That's my
advice to them. Keep your eyes on the prize, and
that is not the prize.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
All right. Steve de Seger's going.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
To join us here in about eight nine ten minutes,
get you up to date on everything. Also, then from
our perspective, coming up next, let's get a little deeper
into the Joe Burrow thing. There's also another young quarterback
in the league who I feel like keeps getting the
same message. He still doesn't have it yet, So we'll
get to all of that with me from Salam.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
I really want to get into to Burrow with you
a little bit more because you sounded pretty definitive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
You think this is it. You think he's gonna be
like on another team next.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Year, and I think he's going to start pushing the envelope.
We saw this happen with Carlson Palmer. I just don't
think he has faith and confidence in the organization to
put the necessary people in place. I mean, Joe Burrow

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is hands down the top five quarterback in the NFL,
no doubt, no one will doubt no one will ever
know it. We're finally getting to see Justin Herbert be
a top level quarterback. And it took a real coach
and the staff to come in in a GM, to

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come in and really change the organization in two years.
None of that's happening in Cincinnati, and I think he's
beyond frustrated with that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
It's getting worse, Yes, it's getting worse.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
I mean, this is somebody who has taken down Mahomes
in the place playoffs, has taken down Josh Allen in
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
This is not someone who should be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Fighting to make the playoffs every year in a division
that barely has anybody even over five hundred barely, And
now twenty four hours from now, that might not be
true anymore, you know. So anyway, speaking of winners, come on, Steve,
let's just let's go Steve de Seger.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
Hello once again, ladies and gents. Dallas and Minnesota is
the Sunday night NFL game. Under four minutes to go
in the second quarter at Dallas, and this game is
tied at fourteen. Cowboys with a couple of one yard
TV runs for JJ McCarthy. Minnesota threw an interception his
first pass of the night, which turned into the Dallas
scoring drive early, but McCarthy does have a TD pass

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and a TD run and the game is even late
in the second quarter. Dak Prescott eighty seven yards passing,
McCarthy one hundred and forty two yards passing on eight
of eleven, one TD and one pick again earlier. Denver
won it's eleventh straight game. The Broncos are twelve and two.
They're undefeated at home, and they beat green Bay thirty

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four twenty six bow knicks with four touchdown passes three
hundred two yards. The Broncos actually trailed in the third
quarter by nine points green Bay with ten penalties and
Packers pass rusher Micah Parsons left with a non contact
knee entry, so a possible torn ACL. Denver clinches a
playoff spot. The Rams in La clinched a playoff berth

(01:04:32):
La Rams eleven and three after beating Detroit forty one
to thirty four. The Rams offense with thirty first downs
today and five hundred nineteen yards this Thursday night Rams
at Seattle. Rams wide receiver DeVante Adams did leave today
with a hamstring injury. His coach would not immediately rule
him out for Thursday. Matthew Stafford three hundred and sixty

(01:04:52):
eight yards passing two touchdowns and to pick Puka Nakua
nine catches one hundred and eighty one yards. Seattle wins
on a late fifty six yard field goal against the
Colts eighteen to sixteen. Seahawks record eleven and three, same
as the Rams. Colts had just taken the lead on
a sixty yard field goal. The feel good story was
going to end in an Indie victory, as Philip Rivers,

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just signed out of retirement this week, had a touchdown
pass today, In fact, he gave his team a thirteen
to three halftime lead. Instead. Seahawks eighteen to sixteen the
final because Jason Myers goes six for six on field goals,
including a fifty two yarder, one from fifty four and
the game winning fifty six yarder. At San Francisco, the

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forty nine Ers beat Tennessee thirty seven to twenty four.
San Francisco's won four straight. Today, they were facing the Titans,
the worst offense in the league, a team that still
hasn't won consecutive games in three years. Niners led thirty
one to ten late in the third quarter, Brock Purty
three touchdown passes, one fumble, two hundred and ninety five
yards passing. We had had New Orleans. It was the

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Saints over Carolina twenty to seventeen, winning on a forty
seven yard field goal in the final seconds. The Saints
had trailed seventeen to seven late in the third quarter.
Twenty penalties combined in this one. Saints running back Devin
Neil left with a hamstring injury. Running back Alvin Kamara
was already out due to injuries. The Chargers won at
Kansas City sixteen to thirteen. The Chargers had not swept

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the Chiefs since twenty thirteen. They won the opener technically
a home game in Brazil to start the season, and
they beat him in Casey and the Cold today and
Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes tore in acl late in the game.
Kansas City, with the defeat six to eight, was eliminated
from the playoff chase after ten straight years in the postseason,

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and the Chiefs had led thirteen to three late first half.
Buffalo was trailing at halftime at New England twenty four
to seven, and still beat the Patriots thirty five thirty
one temperature about thirty degrees in Frocksborough snow at the start.
Buffalo did win in the snow last week. They come
back for the w today to end the Pats ten
game winning streak. Josh Allen three touchdown passes. Jacksonville, winners

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of five straight now beat the Jets forty eight to twenty.
Trevor Lawrence five touchdown passes and a TD run. Houston
won it sixth in a row, forty to twenty over Arizona,
which has lost six straight. By the way, the tight
end for the Cardinals, Trey McBride, has at least five
catches in sixteen straight games. That's a new record for
a tight end, breaking the Travis Kelce mark. Philadelphia sent

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Las Vegas to an eighth straight loss, thirty one to nothing.
Jalen Hurtz credited with three touchdown passes, two on shovel
passes to Dallas Goddard. The Raiders offense had only seventy
five net yards on forty two plays. Chicago is ten
to four after beating Cleveland thirty one to three. Shador
Sanders through three interceptions and was sacked five times in defeat.

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DeAndre Swift of the Bears ninety eight yards rushing and
two scores. Washington ended an eight game losing streak, winning
at the Giants twenty nine to twenty one. Giants have
now lost eight straight. New York York missed field goal
attempts of fifty one and fifty two yards. Baltimore's up
to seven and seven after the shutout win at Cincinnati
twenty four to nothing. Derrick Henry eleven carries one hundred yards.

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Like the Chicago game, it was about ten degrees in Cincinnati.
Jamar Chase in defeat ten catches one hundred and thirty
two yards. He was targeted sixteen times. In the NBA,
Sacramento has a record of six and nineteen. Well, make
it six and twenty. They've just lost at Minnesota one
seventeen one oh three and Anthony Edwards did not play

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out with a sore foot. Zach Lavine of the Kings
left with an ankle injury. Wins at home for Atlanta
and Brooklyn, wins on the road for Washington and for Charlotte,
which won in overtime at Cleveland. Among the games in progress,
Lakers tied early third quarter sixty four all at Phoenix
College hoops number four, Iowa State ripped Eastern Illinois, women's

(01:08:55):
basketball wins for Texas for Louisville in overtime, NHL victories
for Miss Minnesota and Carolina, and guys, we do have
this to pass along. Well, two things actually already people
are looking at the draft order for April. The Giants
are two and twelve, the Raiders are two and twelve,
and the Titans are two and twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Oh Burner.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
At the end of this month, the Raiders will be
hosting the Giants, perhaps with the number one draft pick
on the line. And you know, we've seen what the
Raiders have had at quarterback for the last twenty years.
I'm tempted to say, but the college football Playoff also
starts this Friday. It's going to be Alabama at Oklahoma.
And there are three games this Saturday, including Miami at

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Texas A and M. I bring this up because there
are two playoff games that they farmed out to TNT
for this Saturday, Tulane at Ole Miss and James Madison
at Oregon. On top of that, those two games are
going up against two NFL broadcasts on Fox TV this Saturday.

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Fox will have Philadelphia at Washington and then the Packers
at Bear's rematch Saturday nights Fox TV.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Back to you, that sounds like a pretty easy choice
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I don't know about the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
You know what, though, since we're on this, I like,
I don't know where you two stand on it. I
defend the idea of James Madison and Tulane being in this.
I'm with all of you. I think they're going to
get their doors blown off. I really, I'm with you.

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But that fits within the script that has been written.
And that's what I don't mind. You know what I mean.
You're also if you're an NFL fan somehow, you're telling
me that Tampa or Carolina is going to host a playoff.

Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
Game because they're a division winner.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
Right are you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
You won something?

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
And I like the fact that has what you referred to,
one of the so called its smaller conferences gets its
champion in so once we crown a national champion, it's
not just the champs of these two conferences, it's the
national champion. This is one of the things I love
about the World Cup. When we saw the draw, we
could go for the World Cup. I think every four

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years people realize literally every country in the world has
playoff games to try and get in the World Cup.
I mean, Liechtenstein is playing to Faroe Islands and all
these Haiti is actually in these places you've never heard of.
Everybody has a chance two hundred plus countries.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Like what happens in the month of March. And I
know it doesn't feel that way, but it is that
way that like North Carolina A and T gets to
actually play North Carolina in the first round of the
championship tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
So this is fundamental to me to all sport.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
If you want to be mad at something about college football,
it's what I said last week. Be mad that people
go into a room talk about their finances and come
out and say that Alabama's in. That's that's your problem,
not James Madison in Tulane.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
That's just my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Yeah, I mean right, being mad at at Tulane and
James Madison for doing what they were supposed to do.
I mean those are both one loss teams. Alabama has
three losses and I don't care who they lost to.
It's hard to make a case for a three loss team,

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especially if they didn't win the conference championship, So I
don't you know, they're not the problem. Look, hey, maybe
we get a little bit of march madness. A little
bit harder to do in football. I mean, you never know,
but you never know, right, and you never know. And
we're gonna see if they're to be taken serious or not.

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We gonna find out, and I'm all for it. I
won't be watching him because I'd be watching the NFL games,
but Bears and Pilers.

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Yeah, apparently Oregon is favored by three touchdowns James.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
I have I have a buddy who went to Oregon
and was considering not traveling up up there to to
watch this football game because it was just gonna be,
you know, it's gonna be an absolute, uh runaway. So
he's like, why why spend the money to go do it?
It changed his mind. He's gonna go do it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Oh yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
But but but anyway, I'm like, yeah, there's a lot
of sports like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Did you buy a ticket to the Niner Titan game today?
I could have told you how that was going to go,
or or or so many of the the Eagles Raiders game.
Did you go like, oh my God, the Eagles Raiders
game terrible anyway, much more to get to on all this.
Speaking of the Nighters, Steve was talking about Brock Perdy's

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performance today.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I want to throw something at you on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
We're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios with you
from Salama, Mark Ward.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
This is Fox Sports Radio. We're live in the Fox
Sports Radio studios. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
I'm just gonna use Shady McCoy as an example, just
because he's got a platform and he's a big name,
so therefore, in a way it's a compliment because he's
not alone. I heard people all over the country and
certainly where I live, saying this four or five weeks ago,

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so be accountable. It's fine. All of us are wrong
sometimes all of us and it's just sports, so it's
not that big of a deal. But good lord, take
a lap. If you were one of these people that
was like, I think we should stick with my Jones,

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take a lap. I can't stand when people do the
out of sight, out of mind thing and you just
forget you forget, you forget.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Who has achieved things in whatever portion of life we're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
You forget the aspects and special things that certain people
bring to the table in whatever they do. Now, I'm
big enough to admit that the last four opponents in
the forty nine Ers four game win streak are not
necessarily the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Most special football teams out there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
I get that, but love talking to you about it, Ephrom,
because you actually watched the games and if you saw
brock Perty's performance today, today was the day that for
the first time, I was like, ooh, that foot is
all good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
He was absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
With his feet today, not just with the forty four
yards rushing on the ground, but buying more time. Never
turned the ball over twenty three to thirty two hundred
and ninety five yards, three touchdown throws, no picks, no
almost picks, no nothing. Now, he lost a fumble at
one point, which was a batted ball as his arm was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Kind of coming forward. Close call, but that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Doesn't really have much to do with the way he
was delivering the ball out there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
And like, all you got to do is take a look.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
At the forty nine ers point output since he returned.
He went into a frigid Cleveland and put up twenty
six points there, thirty seven today, forty one. In his
first game back at Arizona the number of times that
the forty nine ers had scored thirty points or more

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so far this season before that was once once.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
So mac Jones did a wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Job being a backup quarterback and coming in and winning
five games for the forty nine ers, and he deserves
a ploque in the Hall because he saved their season.
Yeah he did, But my god, the Niners should stick
with mac Jones. Seriously, dude, take a lap.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Well, I mean we watched the Brock party hate PERMEI
eate since he got the start. I mean, no one
wanted to give him credit. Right, it was always everything else,
but no one wanted to give him credit. And so

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when they paid him, one of the first things were,
well you overpaid him. I mean I wouldn't say so.
I mean, if you've only gone to a super Bowl
and played in an NFC Championship in his two years
as a star, you were decimated by injuries. Last year,

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they didn't make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
And their defense was trash.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Right, this year is a completely different situation. Now you
were helped with their strength of schedule based on the
way you finished last year, no doubt, and when he's healthy,
it's a different offense. Mac Jones did a yeoman's job
and he may have gotten himself an ability to start
somewhere else from what he did. That's the job of

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a backup quarterback. Can you reintroduce people to the value
that you bring. And I think he did that. I
think he did well. But Brock Party is the starting quarterback,
and the offense looks different when Brock Purdy is the
starting quarterback for the San Francisco forty nine ers. And
he showed you the wheels, yep. So you know, I've

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always been a Brock Party fan because he's a seventh
rounder and he made good on and showing up and
showing out, and so I'm always for my late round
guys proving to people. And like I always said, if
Brock Perty was a first round draft pick, we wouldn't
even be having these conversations. We wouldn't have talked about
him being overpaid, none of those things. He would have

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been playing as he should have been as a first
round draft pick. But because he was the last pick
in the draft, everybody was like, well, it can't be him.
He can't be that good because no one drafted him
over and over and over again. But look at Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yeah, and here we are.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
It'll get interesting now at Indie next Monday. Then they
host Chicago and Seattle on the way out, so it's
definitely going to be interesting. But ten and four after
their fourth winning a row today, we'll get to Travis
kelce coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
It's a world that does not include the Chiefs, and
for now, at least for the rest of this season
and possibly the start of next season as well, the
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of things to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
What do we do with the NFC.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
South, How do the New York Giants get Jackson Dart
to understand their message?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
How do we do that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
And what does what I was just talking about with
regard to the Chiefs, what does that mean for some
of the players around him, namely Travis kelcey. And I
got to admit this from first of all, you deserve
your victory lap, and I haven't given it to you yet.
I am speaking to a man who said before the

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year even started that the Chiefs would miss the playoffs
before the year even started.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Hey nice call, Well, nice call you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Yeah, way to the crowd.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
But I go back to shortly after the Super Bowl
loss for the Chiefs last year and Travis Kelcey saying
I'm not going out like that, and I'm always like
fascinated by that, because I'm like, well, first of all,
you don't really have a choice. The second of all,

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I mean, especially when there is something as well known
as a Super Bowl hangover for the team that loses it,
and in this case, maybe even more so because we're
talking about a team that had been to three straight
Super Bowls. I'm thinking to myself, Okay, you're you're all

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going to be a year older. You won so many
games this year by like one point and two points,
and this lucky break and this thing happened over there,
and you just got your doors blown off by the Eagles.
What on earth made you think? You know what, if
I played.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
One more year, it's gonna get better.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
It's gonna get better.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
I didn't know it was gonna necessarily be this bad,
But there was no way that I thought that this
year would go better than last year for the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
Yeah, I agree with that. I just don't. The thing
that really is apparent to me is Andy Reid's and
the chiefs lack of understanding when it comes to being
able to You need to be able to run the
ball at some point, like the older your team gets,

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the less explosive you get in the passing game, which
we saw last year. Okay, this is something for the
last couple of years have been creeping up on them
and not addressing the running game. To me is the
biggest thing, because what you do when you want to
take pressure off your quarterback, you hand the ball off

(01:23:09):
twenty five times, thirty times yep. In a game you
get the tough yards. You allow your offensive line that
is not proficient in past blocking to be aggressive. At
least you could say, all right, put your head down
and let's get me three yards. They that's not how

(01:23:34):
this team has been made up. Now they're down to
two guys who have no business starting yet on their
offensive line. Yes, yet everybody isn't Day one come in
and ready to go. Some of those young players and
rookies and free agents, they need time. And that's one

(01:23:59):
thing that you know, the Chiefs don't have his time.
I mean, this is quite possibly Travis Kelce's last year
of playing football. Yep, and it's positive. This isn't how
he thought.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Right exactly and how I was going to go. I
don't want it to feel like any of us are
dancing on this or whatever, because I actually, I mean
both of the Kelsey brothers who have clearly built a
post career empire for themselves already.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
They are engaging. By all accounts, they are super good dudes.
Travis is obviously headed for however long it lasts, hopefully forever,
is headed for one of the most high profile couplings
in all of the country right now, Like all of
this stuff is sitting there for them. So I have
nothing against Travis kelcey, But when he says I ain't

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going out like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Yeah you are.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Are? Yeah you are?

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
I mean especially now. I mean, wouldn't if you were
already thinking about it last year? Wouldn't you have been
thinking about it twice this year and watching your franchise
quarterback limp off with a torn acl wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Wouldn't that? I mean, that's it's a wrap, don't you think?

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Yeah, this is the it's one of those situations where
it's the end of of of this era.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Right, Like, I didn't even think of that until you
and I started kind of batting around, but I I
think we've seen Patrick Mahomes throw the ball to Travis
Kelcey for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
The last time.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
That, yes, yeah, And now it could be a situation
where when Grunk retired and you know, uh Tom called
him and was like, hey, come over to Tampa with me,
and it may be one of those maybe he's gone
for well, hell no, anybody can come back and play.
Well we saw that good look.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Yeah, maybe maybe four and a half years from now.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Yeah, Amen, Taylor will.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Be looking at each other going, you know, we could
use some weeks really.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Right, maybe if today's taught us anything that it's how
long have I been retired? Fifteen years? Hey, sign me
up if that means I get healthcare again?

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
Right, I mean I think it'll be week five next year.
The Travis is gonna turn thirty seven.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
Yeah, he just doesn't have the pop or that the
you know what I miss? Yeah, just watching Kittle play today,
Oh man, Right, that used to be the level of energy, right,
Travis played with right like that that used to be

(01:27:03):
the exuberance and the energy that that Travis brought to
the field.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Well, I get it though, Like it's kind of like
when you heard Burrow say what he said earlier this week,
I'm like, yeah, man, it hurts right, it looks like
it looks like it hurts like hell. And you know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
From whether it's Andrew Luck, you know, Joe Burrow, Travis Kelsey,
Kelsey whoever. Like you know, there's some famous stories throughout
the years. Chris Borland was a young player on the
defensive side for San Francisco, right, like.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Everybody was Patrick Willis.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Right that people were excited. It was like, oh, that's
a good rookie year. And he was like, so I'm
not good at that anymore. Yeah, And I like, I
don't know, that doesn't that's to me, that's not a weakness.
I think that's a really good observation by you, that
Travis kelcey.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
It. Yeah, the whole thing, it just runs its course,
like there's yeah, it's so iconic and it's been through
so many different generations of itself. You can't you can't
have that much joy anymore, and you can't want it
as much as all these other teams want it because
you've just been sitting there holding it for almost a decade.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
And and and it's to the point where the only
way you you hold on and maintain that is if
you got you gotta add new and fresh, young energy
into that, right like you gotta you gotta pump in
young exuberant players. And not to take anything away from

(01:28:44):
Rashid Rice are worthy, but they don't bring a lot
of energy. Now like Tarik Hill brought energy, Travis brought energy.
Pacheco wants to bring energy, But those three or four
carries did he gets a game? I don't know if

(01:29:06):
that's energy inducing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I really think that you, like this is a good
observation on your part to bring up the Chiefs run game.
And the fact of the matter is is that I
think people forget the circumstances surrounding the Chiefs bringing back
Kareem Hunt.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Last year.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
They brought Kareem Hunt back because they were out of options.
They grabbed him off the street because they had multiple injuries.
It was the same circumstances that brought the Colts to
Philip Rivers door this week.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Just like we're kind of desperate, do you want to play?

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
And then he came in and he's seemingly sort of
in a short stint, played well enough to where the
Chiefs then just came back this year and went cool.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
Sure do that boring?

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Like really, don't you remember when whoever the Chief's running
back was that was a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
Yeah, and that's you're exactly yes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Fantasy football, you were scared if you had to go
up against the Chiefs running back.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
It's been a long time, man.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
And I think that that is when you put that
much pressure on the shoulders of Patrick Mahomes. And Patrick
hasn't looked like himself in two years. He hasn't a
lot of injuries with the receivers this year, a lot
of that's all kinds of stuff going on, but Patrick
hasn't looked like himself. And it could be they're just hired. Yep,

(01:30:42):
they're just hired.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Dynasty's way on you after and now.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
They get plenty of time to rest. And now it's
up to Andy reidep and and the front office to
really inject some youth and some life and some energy
into that roster. There you go and right go, get
you a big, nasty, mean offensive lineman that like to

(01:31:06):
talk trash a big tackle who like to talk trash
and slam somebody after the play. Like that's the type
of stuff you need. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
An exciting young running back, that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
Good running back, someone you can have the ball off
to twenty five times a game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Yeah, and you brought up the Niners schedule earlier. It's
gonna be the same thing. The Super Bowl hangover back.
The opportunity comes with a present, and that is you
get a crappy schedule next.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
Year, perfect opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
You won't be a fourth place schedule because those Raiders
are really special, but you will get a third place
schedule next year. I mean that's the other part about
the Chiefs that when people, quite honestly, it's why I
jumped on the board with you about them missing the playoffs,
and people don't really look at it, which is obviously

(01:31:54):
the Chargers and Broncos make up a quarter of your
schedule just then, but the remainder of what the Chiefs
had to do this year from Philadelphia and Detroit and
Baltimore back before Lamar got hurt. As it turns out,
a trip to Jacksonville was difficult as well. You had
to go to Dallas. You're dealing with Houston in Indianapolis,

(01:32:16):
like this was a real and don't forget Buffalo. They
had to go to Buffalo better do all of that.
That's like, it's hard, you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Yeah, it's it's time, it's and as good as Patrick Mahomes,
it's great as Patrick Mahomes is, even he needs something. Sure,
it can't just beat him. And that's some situation. I
fear this happening in Buffalo. Yeah you yeah, when you

(01:32:47):
start piling these expectations and Josh Allen was out of
his mind today and shame on New England. But when
you start piling up, you know, no receivers, thank God
for James Cook, because they can't hand the ball off

(01:33:10):
to them and they can't use them out of the backfield.
But I mean, it can't be this hard. They shouldn't
have to be this hard, and so there's some soul
searching that has to and you're right, winning makes you
let things slip through the cracks. Just the joy of

(01:33:31):
playing is void when you watch Kansas City play. It
was last year when they were struggling, when they were
barely beating teams, couldn't score points. You look at Patrick's
numbers last year and you look at them this year. Yeah,

(01:33:53):
Patrick Mahomes won't make the Pro Bowl again this year.
And they were fifteen and in two and he didn't
make the Pro Bowl and everybody was like, whoa what, No,
there are other quarterbacks playing much better, much better.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
I'm scrolling through the wide receivers that were selected in
the twenty twenty four NFL Draft and some interesting ones.
And the Bills had the first pick of the second
round and they went with Keon Coleman.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
Bus Yeah, yeah, Bus.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
You know, I'm looking at some of the some of
the names that were behind him, and you know, I mean,
we don't see any superstars, but you know, Trey Franklin
was in the In the fourth round of that draft.
Jayla McMillan, nice young receiver for the Bucks, went after
Keon Coleman. At an I Mitchell, who cut touchdown today

(01:35:03):
for the Jets. He went a number of picks after
Keon Coleman. That's the other thing. That's a position where
I feel like with the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
They could really they could really use some tweaks.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
I like the way that they don't overpay the position,
but they could use some more things and people for
Josh to play with.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
There's no doubt. All Right, we're live in these Fox
Sports Radio studios. What are we gonna do with the
NFC South. We'll talk about that coming up next with
I from Salama Mark. Well, this is Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Radio, all right, sitting here live in not just the
winter snow, but in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Hey,
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Be sure to follow the pod rated a five, provide

(01:35:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
But we are not done yet. I tell you WHATDDY
I like.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Because I hold the opinion that I do that we've
talked about the last two weeks about college football. I
sort of hold the same opinion about the NFL, which
is that just give me the rules ahead of ahead
of the season, and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Then I'm willing to follow them.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
So, for example, like I actually don't fundamentally have a
problem with the Panthers or the Bucks winning their division
and hosting a playoff game.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
I am getting to the point though, where it's becoming
a little tiresome, and I'm wondering, like, if we've ever
seen a division go this long where this is the rule.
All you have to do is win half your games,
win half your games, watch everybody else crater around you.

(01:37:03):
It's crazy how long it's been since any of these
four teams decided to really like just stand up and
be like an actual thing. The Bucks have flirted with it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Baker's been good, They've won a playoff game a couple
of years ago, all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
They're not a joke by any stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
But by goodness, this division is just it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
And now the Panthers and Bucks are going to play
each other twice over the remaining three games, and that'll
decide the whole thing. And then then somebody really good
is going to go to the home of one of
those two teams.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
Right it's you know, I love and if I'm one
of those teams who goes on the road to play
either or Carolina Panthers or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm
trying to beat them by a million. I'd rather go
there then, you know Philly, hell yeah, hell yeah, you

(01:38:14):
know Chicago. Even so, it's it's a situation where it's
all right, cool, right, Tampa, the weather won't be too bad. Carolina.
You know, you're not afraid. You know, Tampa gives you

(01:38:36):
a little bit of pause because Baker and Baker can
can can get hot. But I would want to go
to Carolina. I'm oh, I'm praying Carolina when wins that division.
I mean, that's what you want.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
The race for the five seed is going to be hot,
h man, it is going to be hot because, like
right now, especially with the Lions losing today, it feels
like you got three teams in the West and then
you've got the Bears and the Packers in the North.
Two of those five teams are going to win the

(01:39:14):
division and the other three will be the wild cards.
And there's not a one of those five teams that I.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
Wouldn't take to blow the doors off the Carolina Panther.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
In a playoff setting, I don't even So here's the
only thing I guess to me. This is a question
because I think people are screaming until they're blowing the
face about this idea of you know, they got to
do away with the divisions or anything like like that.
None of that's going to ever happen, and I would
actually support it continued to go like it is. The
real question is not should the winner of the division

(01:39:50):
still go to the playoffs? It is should that winner
of the division? Yes, like that, that's the actual question.
What do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
No, I agree with you, and we're in lockstep. I
think they should go to the playoffs, but the team
with the better record gets the home game. To me,
that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Sure feels like it. Yeah, or at least there's some
sort of a.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
You know, like, look if if you had a weird
year where the wildcar winners are all twelve and five,
eleven and six division winners only ten and seven, something like.
I don't know, maybe there's like a double digit win
sort of like requirement.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
I don't know, I don't know what it is. I'd
be willing to listen.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
But if one of these teams rocks nine to eight
and then they're hosting, you know, a twelve and five
team or even hell, who knows, could be a thirteen
and four team.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
That just doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
It feels gross.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
It does, it does, and you know what, you know
the other thing, this is just a moment in time.
I actually don't think it's that big a deal because
Carolina and Tampa do not They do not give you
difficult road game environments in January.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Yes, but through the years.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
If this was to hop it in the NFC North
or the NFC East, to wear like a nine to
eight packer team and you had to go to Lambeau
in January, that didn't feel right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Yeah, that would suck, right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
I mean, at least Tampa and Carolina you're like whatever,
it's like five guys, yeah, exactly, and you and I
get to pack our bags at least for a few
minutes because Steve de Seger's gonna come in and take
me Steve. Yeah, Hi, Steve. Hello.

Speaker 6 (01:41:46):
Once again. I've always thought if I was NFL commissioner
ever since that Pete Carroll Seattle team was seven and nine, YEP,
got to immediately I would have said, okay, now on,
you can make the playoffs. You're a division champion, you're
a champus something you're in. Absolutely, I don't care what
your record is, but you're not hosting anything if you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
Have a winning record, anything, not even lunch.

Speaker 6 (01:42:07):
Especially now it's seventeen game schedule, so you got to
be nine and eight or else you're not hosting anything.
We got a lot of football to discuss, but I
got to mention in one of these late games in
the NBA, Lakers with a twenty four to nothing run
leading at Phoenix now one oh nine ninety five with
four and a half minutes left, even though Luka Donsich

(01:42:28):
until a moment ago from three point range, was one
for eleven. He now has six assists six turnovers for
twenty nine points. Golden State is leading in the third
at Portland, seventy nine to seventy. Now to the NFL News,
the Rams and the Broncos each one to become the
first teams in the NFL to clinch US playoff spot
this season. Meanwhile, we had more teams mathematically eliminated, including

(01:42:52):
Cincinnati and Kansas City. The Chiefs are six and eight.
They lost at home to the Chargers sixteen thirteen. Chiefs
quarterback Patrick Mahomes tore in ACL late in the game.
By the way, AP pointing out that the AFC title
game this season will not have Patrick Mahomes or Tom
Brady as a starting quarterback for the first time since

(01:43:15):
Mark Sanchez versus Ben Roethlisberger after the twenty ten season.
Lord it has been.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
That long fifteen years, and.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
With the Chiefs and Bengals officially out. They note that
the at least in the AFC playoff race, the only
quarterback that's still alive in the chase who's actually started
a Super Bowl in his career is Aaron Rodgers, and
the Steelers may not make the playoffs at all. If
they lose tomorrow, they'll be seven and seven. Baltimore is
currently seven and seven, so there's that. The Sunday Night

(01:43:47):
NFL game is at Dallas and Brandon Aubrey is three
for four on field goals. Cowboys lead Minnesota twenty three
seventeen about four minutes to go in the third. JJ
McCarthy threw an interception on a first pass of the night.
After that, he had a touchdown pass and a touchdown run.
Denver won it's eleventh straight game, thirty four to twenty

(01:44:07):
six over Green Bay four touchdown passes for bow Nicks.
Green Bay pass rusher Micah Parsons left with a non
contact knee injury. The Rams clinched their berth with a
win over Detroit forty one thirty four Puka Nakua, nine receptions,
one hundred eighty one yards. Seattle is eleven and three
and will be hosting the Rams this Thursday night. Seattle

(01:44:28):
beat the Colts eighteen sixteen on a late fifty six
yard field goal. The Colts had just taken the lead
on a sixty yard field goal. New Orleans came back
for a twenty to seventeen home win against Carolina, which
falls to seven and seven. Saints won and on a
forty seven yard field goal in the final seconds at
San Francisco, and the Niners scored points on their first
five drives, then after a fumble on the next drive,

(01:44:51):
couple more field goals tacked on thirty seven twenty four
the final over Tennessee, which falls to two and twelve.
The Raiders record is two and twelve. Eighth straight loss
today thirty one nothing at Philadelphia. The Raiders went back
to pass twenty nine times. They finished with twenty nine
yards net passing Jalen Hurts three TD passes in the

(01:45:14):
win Chicago over Cleveland thirty one to three. Constant pressure
on Shador Sanders from a team not known for pressure
this year from the defense, Sanders through three interceptions and
was sacked five times. Washington ended an eight game losing streak,
winning at the Giants twenty nine twenty one Marcus Mariota
one TD pass, won fumble. Baltimore's win was twenty four
to nothing at Cincinnati, Derrick Henry on eleven carries at

(01:45:37):
one hundred yards. Jacksonville won its fifth in a row
forty eight twenty over the Jets, Trevor Lawrence five touchdown
passes and a TD run. Houston won its sixth straight game,
led Arizona seventeen to nothing first quarter, forty to twenty
Texans the final, and Buffalo was trailing at New England
at the half twenty four to seven and still beat

(01:45:57):
the Patriots thirty five thirty one Josh Allen and three
TD passes that ends the Pats ten game winning streak
in the NBA. Washington and New Orleans each one on
the road. College hoops wins for Iowa State and USC
in the women's volleyball NCAA Tournament Texas A and M
upset Number one Nebraska, which was undefeated. An M is

(01:46:19):
on to the final four. Nebraska women's basketball is still undefeated,
ranked in the top twenty five after home win against
Illinois State eighty five forty four. Illinois State had one
starter that went oh for eleven from the floor. The
team and the loss had sixteen baskets and twenty turnovers.
And last night in women's hoops, there was a game

(01:46:41):
in a Reno where the Nevada Wolfpack were leading with
under a minute left in overtime by three points against Pacific,
and then the arena on campus lost power. It wound
up being officially ruled an interrupted game, a no contest.
There was no winner, and all statistics are voided whoa.

(01:47:01):
Nevada was leading at home in overtime and they couldn't
finish the game. And it's a non conference matchup, so
I don't expect them ever to have Pacific come from
California and revisit again. So they went home to Stockton
and it's as if the game was never played.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
How do I go about getting the same thing to
hop into my fantasy playoff game?

Speaker 6 (01:47:28):
Pull the plug up.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Yes, I turned the lights off.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
Are you telling me we can just start over?

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Zero? Zero? Man? I am the commissioner at one of
the leagues. Can I do that? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
You could.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
I just pulled the plug.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
I'm like, oh it would Your last act is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Yes, I tripped, I fell, the plug came out of
the wall. Let's start again next week. It's an idea.
I didn't know you could do that. Thank you, Steve,
great stuff tonight. Appreciate it's you we are. We're live
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we look at an incomplete pass that was thrown at

(01:48:30):
Justin Jefferson, I saw someone write an article this week
that said Jefferson and this one's on him. I mean
McCarthy hit him right between his two hands in the
back of the end zone.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
It went right through his hands. But there's an article
that basically was like, Jefferson is now droppable, droppable in
fantasy football. What do the Vikings do from about the
quarterback situation going forward?

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
I think it's not fair to JJ McCarthy too to
say he's not the one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Pretty early, pretty early to give up.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
Yeah, yeah, So they got to really use these next
few weeks to really decide is this is does he
have uh? Does he have enough to build around? He's
on a favorable contract, his rookie contract, but he's been

(01:49:38):
hurt a lot this year, so they really haven't gotten
a chance to see him consistently week after week and
what he can do. And anytime you get hurt as
a young player, it stops your growth. It does it
just it stops it and it's almost like a reset.

(01:49:59):
And what you will want is to be able to
have a complete year moving forward and to make a decision.
I don't think you can make that decision this offseason.
It's probably right trying to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
You're probably right.

Speaker 4 (01:50:16):
So I think what you do is you bolster the
team around them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
Yep. Well, and I also think you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
Have a very viable backup plan in place, you know,
I mean if you really think about what they were
doing when they drafted JJ McCarthy. Sam Donald was brought
in to be a very very high level either placeholder
or backup plan, and then JJ got hurt towards ACL

(01:50:47):
and Sam ended up having a great year and Sam's
now the quarterback of the Seattle Seahawks. The Vikings need
to have some sort of something in place for if
they get half way through the season next year and
decide that the JJ is just not doing it. They
almost need to treat Justin Jefferson the way that we're

(01:51:07):
suggesting the Bengals treat Joe Burrow. You can't have that
kind of an investment into a special player and then
not give him what he needs.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
And Justin Jefferson needs a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:51:17):
He does, so he trying to get him out of there,
you know what I mean. Yeah, so yeah, we're trying
to get out of there. Could you imagine him with
Josh Allen?

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Oh god, I mean I can imagine him with a
lot of just.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Things about we talked about earlier about the lack of
outside help at the receiver position. For Buffalo and Josh.
Imagine someone like Justin Jefferson though on the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Nice, Oh my lord, nice, nice.

Speaker 4 (01:51:52):
But that's what I would be thinking about if I'm
If I'm Justin, I'm like, hey, man, hey, you know
right right, I got to get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Speaking of I gotta get up out of here. That's
something that there's another quarterback in the league. It keeps
doing that, uh in the middle of games, and we
need to have a conversation about him before we get
up out of here ourselves. That's it from Salama Mark Willard.
This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
All right.

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(01:52:42):
going to be right there at the top of your screen.
What to what are you reacting.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
Lebron James, Oh what do you think The line misses
the technical free throw. They're down by one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
What ab so? I have like a bunch of games
on in here, and that's not one of them. What
did Marcus Smart do? Can you tell me?

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
I'm reading everywhere that Marcus Smart like Lakers were up
by twenty two and.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Oh he went to the he for whatever reason, they
were up by two. Yeah, and he decides to go
on a one on whatever fast break.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Fun and.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
It goes on the one one or whatever fast break
and gets the shot blocked back to the other side
where they come down and hit a three. Well, sometimes
you gotta Dylan Brooks gets a technical because he just
bumped Lebron after he hit the three, and Lebron goes

(01:53:48):
to the free throw line in a one thirteen one
fourteen game and misses the free throw. Trade his hey, man,
you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
You gotta you gotta help man, you gotta help a
Warrior fan out.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
No, give us, give us.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Oh god, don't get me started.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Moody and Al Harrington, Yeah, I mean hord something and
you can have Bronnie and and Lebron.

Speaker 5 (01:54:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Something tells me salaries don't quite mad And yeah, I
think the trade machine has turned down I'm sorry, but uh.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
Anyway, Cowboys miss a long field goal.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Sure do, Brandon Aubrey, second miss of the night. You
don't see that very often. That one was a long one.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Dylan Brooks is too much. It's more annoying than Draymond Green.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Right, it's too much, Right, Okay, I just want to
be sure that that wasn't my fandom. Like, I get
that Draymond Green is absolutely unbearable to most NBA fans,
but Dylan Brooks is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
Worse, right, Yes, yes, okay? What's doing out?

Speaker 5 (01:55:11):
Like? What?

Speaker 4 (01:55:13):
Yeah? Hold on to something.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Anyway. I had two questions for you. One of them's football.
One of them is fun, all right. First one, When
the hell's Jackson Dart gonna get it? I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
I don't need him to like he's not a veteran.
I don't need him to understand all the finer points
of the game. I need him to not die every
time he plays. When's he gonna stop doing this?

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
It's hard. It's it's hard for young players when they're
using the thing that that helps them be successful, it's
hard for them to learn to Hey, you got to
turn that down a little bit. Yeah, right, you got
you just think about think about the Cam had to learn.
He learned the hard way, you know. And look, Jess

(01:56:01):
Cam is ginormous. Oh my god, Lebron, this is another
free throw I'm about. You know what. I can't. I
can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
I sat there and listen to me. You need to
hear me, now, over, you need to hear me.

Speaker 7 (01:56:18):
I sat there in the same seat you're in and
did a show while Kyrie Irving hit the shot.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
I was on the air god, and I handled it.
So you need to you know, Sunday in December, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
All right, he hits two out of the three, Lakers
up by one. I just I can't. It's time. Is
time to move on?

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
Of course it is. He's not even one of their
two best players now, So anyway, you want to do
the fun question now, Yeah, yeah, here's the fun question.
Buddy of mine is at this Warriors Blazers game right now,
and he said, during one of the timeouts, have you

(01:57:09):
seen this now where they dropped the parachutes from the rafters.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Yeah, with like shirt, So he said, they're dropping donuts,
like actual donuts attached to parachutes on the people from
the rafters. And I'm trying to find out if you
would eat a donut that came out of the sky

(01:57:33):
that someone had their hands on and was attached to
a parachute if it landed on you, and you'd probably
have to fight another fan for it with their dirty
paws on. Are you eating a glazed donut that came
from the sky.

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
No, I'm not eating a glazed donut that came from
somebody's house.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
Someone touched. But Randy's is fromend the best ever. Yeah,
but somebody touched those two, I mean somebody made that.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
Yeah, they are. We don't know where these donuts are
coming from. You don't know where Randy's start up. Yeah,
they're coming from the kitchen. You can actually see them
making the donuts.

Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
Right, but someone someone's touching them, yes, with gloves on. Yes, yes,
Well maybe the people up in the rafters have gloves on.

Speaker 4 (01:58:23):
We don't know, And that's the whole point.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
But they also you can a little parachute in it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
You can see you can see Jane and Randy's with
the gloves on.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
Yes, you can, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
Minnesota town.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Yeah, Jalen Naylor another one second, one of the uh
of the game for him and the Vikings with an
extra point pending.

Speaker 4 (01:58:45):
And to you and to your point, these are these
are the games, and these are the things that Minnesota
needs to see from J. J. McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Yeah, after that first throw good. Hey, we'll talk to
you next leaguers. Friend, m