Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Start Believing In Jayden Daniels Commanding 3-1 Start, Vikings Continuing Their Hot Start, Chiefs Injury Pile Up, And More!!

Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam start the hype train for Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders as they are now 3-1 and look commanding in their first four games. Mark and Ephraim also talk shop on the hot 4-0 start for the Minnesota Vikings and say that not only are they legit, but Sam Darnold is not the weak link on the team. Plus, the guys react to Rashee Rice potentially tearing his ACL, talk about the Chiefs foundation as a whole with another star down, Ravens taking on the Bills on Sunday Night, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, what the heck would sports radio be if there
weren't people ready to peacock when they get something right.
Now you're not right yet, but my gosh, you're on
your way, and I want to start tonight's show by
highlighting something that I think very few people will remember.
You said to me six weeks ago. I'll tell you

(00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Should be Week four, National Football League. Let's get it
on E from How we doing tonight?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm good man. How you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm doing fantastic. I'm doing fantastic.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I am looking squarely at Remember you said last week
coaches look at NFL seasons as basically four mini seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Four game sets.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I know there's now this seventeenth game, but whatever, you
get the idea four game sets. Try to go three
and one in each. If you don't and things go
wrong and there are injuries, and you go two and two. Okay,
that's hanging in there. Try to avoid one in three
over your four game set. And I'm going to combine

(01:33):
that with something that you said about a week or
two before the regular season started, and we were talking
about the NFC East. It always gets so much attention,
Oh those Dallas Cowboys and the Philly Eagles in New York,
New York and Troy Aikman and afternoons on Fox and

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the NFC East, and you calmly and quietly said, I
think Washington's gonna win that division. And I could feel
all around the country people go what he says. He said,
Washington is gonna win that division. And my response to

(02:14):
you was, I love what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I feel you. I think they might.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Still be a year away, yep, a year out.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
But I love the path they're on.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And my god, for multiple reasons, it looks very accelerated, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
It look It was just First of all, Jadan is
a dynamic talent. Wooo okay was in college. You know,
He's been that way his whole life. And although he's
a mobile quarterback, he doesn't take some of the punishment

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that a lot of mobile quarterbacks take. And he also
likes to keep his eyes down feel and he makes
fast decisions. Whenever you have a young, quick talent, and
you can see some of this, you can see it
in the preseason, and you know, stuff coming out of
Washington of the Commander's camp, it was like, this kid,
he's got it. He's got the infactor whenever you start

(03:11):
hearing stuff like that. We heard it about c J.
Stroud early in camp when he was in Houston. I'm
tapped in in Houston, so you know, you know, the
demico and the ownership and all of that. They were
very high on him, and so it felt like new ownership,
new momentum, new name, new face of the franchise. And

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it's been all of those things. This kid is unbelievable, right,
he has it. So when we look back at this draft,
like we do already in last year's draft, there's a
clear winner. There's a clear winner in that and neither
one of the winners had the number one pick in
the draft. And so I think this is going to continue.

(04:02):
God will and his kids stay healthy and able to
really maximize his potential. This year. I did believe that
they were going to be when that division and go
to the playoffs behind this young man's energy, in the
new coaching, new ownership, all of that.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'll tell you what, it's not just that everything you
just said accepted. And there were people this week who said, hey,
do we have yet another sort of like a Bryce
Young CJ.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Stroud situation.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm not going to say that yet because I don't
think that Caleb Williams is Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
No, we're not.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
We don't need to go there. But could the number
two pick in the draft be the dude? And I
think it's very possible. I want to throw a stat
at you, and then I'm going to take this to
reasons number two and three why Washington's start is incredibly encouraging.
Everyone will talk about Jaden Daniels and what I'm about
to say to you will support that. This will grab

(05:04):
everyone's attention. Now, the Washington Commanders, the Washington Commanders Ephraim
are at this hour the number two scoring team in
the National Football League, the Washington Commanders. Only the New

(05:25):
Orleans Saints have scored more. That's it, the Washington Commanders.
And you might look at the Vikings and you might
be like.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Whoa four and oh, and people are like Sam Darnold
is an MVP candidate, and they're blowing people out and
they keep scoring thirty If you're not paying attention, the
commanders have scored more.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, man, he has complete control of that office. But
it's not even that part. It's the leadership. When you
watch this young man, and this is this is what
I do with all young quarterbacks. I just want to
see how fast the game feels to you by watching you,

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your feed in the pocket, your read progression, like I'm
looking for those things. The nuance behind is he jittery?
Is is he not? Is he afraid to let the
ball go and throw a receiver open or put it
in the window that's only going to be open for
less than a second?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
That was my biggest issue with Justin Fields, a lot
of young quarterback, but really Justin Pheels. He needed you
to be open now before he trusted that you were
gonna get open, So he didn't want to throw into
an empty space and let you run into it. Well,
we don't have the problem. We didn't have that problem
with ce J Stroud. We don't have a problem with
Jaydon Daniels. He's he's he's got it. He's got the

(07:00):
it factor and if anybody was questioning in that, then
they understand. But not only that, they're balanced offense. You
want to take the pressure off your young quarterback. They're
very balanced offense, and that takes the pressure. You don't
feel like you have to do everything. Like when you

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can rush for two hundred and sixteen yards. It's pretty cool,
it's pretty good. Yeah, right. It takes a lot of
pressure off you having to throw the ball fifty, you know,
forty five fifty times, And I think that's important when

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you're bringing a young quarterback along. You don't want the
onus of everything to go on. You guess how many
attempts he's thrown. He's never thrown over thirty attempts in
a game. Perfect, perfect. That is brilliant. He's never thrown

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more than thirty times.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, and it helps when you're up by four touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, it definitely helps being up that much. But he's completing.
Hold your horses here, hold your hold on to whatever.
If you need to sit down.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Sad down, I know, I know what you're gonna say.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Eighty percent of his passes, I mean, he missed. We
had four. You got to remember these are some of
the drops, like so's he missed four this week two,
last week six, the week before, like right, like it's
it's teetering on. This is the foolishness. This is crazy.

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But like I said, when you have a young quarterback
who can't be sped up when he's not making just
irrational decisions with the ball, then you can get someone
who has the ability and wherewithal to number one extend
plays with his legs, but to also extend plays and
attack downfield.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
They have changed the name of their team to the
Perfect Name because it is now basically the nickname in
my mind for Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
He is the commander.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
He like if you haven't watched him yet, you can
look at these stats, and the ones that you're talking
about are absolutely part of the story. But I want
you to watch just the way the body language looks.
Total calm, total command, total understand of what he's trying
to do on plays. He absolutely looks not like a rookie.

(09:46):
He looks not like a rookie. Already they're three and one,
and then he from here's the other part.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Here's why your.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Prediction may well come to be is not just because
Jaden can play and They're offense is now suddenly dynamic.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Here comes my favorite part. Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
This is my favorite part, and I'll show my colors.
I have no problem doing that. My favorite part is
that the Cowboys and Eagles suck. That's my favorite part.
And I don't want you to get it twisted with
your two and two records. And I understand the injuries
that the Eagles offense is experiencing, and those are fair rebuttals.

(10:30):
But here's why those two teams are in a heap
of trouble. Their defenses are at full strength and they
are awful.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
They are not stopping anyone.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Baker Mayfield looked like he was in a playground at
school all day today. I know the Cowboys gave up
fifteen points they were playing Daniel Jones. Just go ahead
and check out what the Ravens and Saints did when
they went to Dallas over the last couple of weeks.
Two teams can't stop anyone, and if you play football
like that, you're looking at nine wins, Max, and I

(11:07):
would suggest its very quickly become realistic that the Commanders
will be hosting a playoff game this year.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Look, and I don't want to jump the gun, but
like you said, moving forward, it seems to me that
offensively and defensively, the commanders are in sync right in
a division where, for whatever reason, seasoned veteran teams are

(11:35):
trying to figure out who they are. The Dallas Cowboys
don't have an identity. Are their running team will?

Speaker 5 (11:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Are they five white out? No? They don't have five
whiteouts that they can put out there and be productive.
The Philadelphia Eagles outside of the tush push, I mean,
you have a back like Sakwon Barkley who's putting up
the numbers he's putting up, and you can't muster up

(12:08):
a win like that. Defensively, Oh god, I mean you
gotta be able to stop people, right, I mean, well,
you gave up twenty four point in the first half.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, what's what's wild? The three franchises we're talking about.
What I haven't seen in what feels like a decade.
That's probably unfair, but the better part of five to
seven years. What I haven't seen when comparing Washington to
Philly to Dallas is that Washington looks like the well
coached team. Oh yeah, that's that's what's different. Washington looks

(12:46):
well coached, Philadelphia does not. Dallas looks. I don't know
if it's poorly coached as much as what you just said.
They're miscast. They like you and I talked about it
all summer. Worst off season I thought of any team
in the NFL easily And so they have come back
with two big contracts, two good players, and that's it,

(13:09):
and it's not enough.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
So we're at the quarter pole. There is a long,
long way to go. But I think those concerns are real. Now.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
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By the way, also coming up next.

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It sounds like there is we're close at least to
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
That is it from Salam. I'm Mark Willard.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
We'll talk more about it and Martin's going to be
on with further details on Rashi Rice who it would
appear there is fear of a torn ACL and it
looked like a torn ACL. By the way, for those
of you who did not see Patrick Mahomes attempt to
make a tackle on after an interception and instead of

(14:54):
getting the charger, he got Rashi's leg. So more on
that coming up in little bit. But take me to Minnesota, brother. Now,
second half got a little hot, got a little crazy,
but they were up twenty eight to nothing at lambeau Field,
and I fell victim to this today. I was like, look,

(15:17):
Minnesota is good, but I do think they're a team
that's a little bit of a different animal when they're
at home, and not that that's not still true to
a certain degree, whether Jordan loves one hundred percent or not.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
The weather's nice, I get it.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
You go to lambeau Field and have your offense look
like this, you complete your first four game miniseason four
to zero, and from it is time for everybody to
take real notice of this football team.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, yeah, because they jumped out. They jump out to
a commanding lead in that division. And it's one of
those situations where you know you still have you know,
Detroit to play this week, but at four and oh,
just being four and oh, your chances of making the

(16:08):
playoffs are eighty five percent boo. So that's how important
it is to start like this. Now, barn injury, another injury.
Now we remember there probably on their second quarterback. I'm
sure JJ was going to start JJ McCarthy. So just

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given what they were when they started and who they
are now, this is a real team and it's gonna
be a problem for others. They're very well coached.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They don't have a lot of self inflicted issues. And
it's literally a rebirth. You have a quarterback who himself
has come out and said, I'm playing free. There is
no expectation on my shoulder outside of the one you
know that he puts on himself. But there's something to

(17:09):
be said to where you feel like you're in a
situation and you're playing with house money, and that's how
he's feeling. So he's not worried about making a mistake,
he's not worried about any of those types of things.
He's just going out there and playing and he's having fun.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'm trying to find where the weakness is right now.
You know, you and I have talked a lot about
teams that are putting maybe too many resources into the
wide receiver position. Right now, justin for me is a
an exception, but b if you look at the way
the Vikings have been doing this, it is very, very far.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
From just justin. You know the other receivers.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Addison got back today, He contributed, Aaron Jones has been
a very nice, inexpensive pickup. And I look at what
Brian Flores is doing with that defense.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
And.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I really like, again, you'd look at it on paper
and if someone said where's the weakness, you'd say, well, well,
Sam Donald, who's on his like twenty thirteen. I still
don't know that he's going to be the December and
January strength that he looks like now, but I sure

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wouldn't call him a weakness.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
No.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
And this is one of those wild things because you've
heard people in NFL circles for years say that if
you just got Sam Donald a situation, if you just
got him a situation, watch how well it would work.
The arm talent is there, so from Jets to Panthers,
and then obviously there was the year in San Francisco
he never really got to play. But now, as you said,

(18:48):
you know, having Kevin O'Connell with him, like this is
a situation and I don't know, man, the world gave
up on Sam and you know, maybe he is going
to be the next GENO Smith where he doesn't right back.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, it's it's there. We've seen it happen all right before.
We're just like, ah, well, you know it's just the
one off. But we've seen guys reinvent themselves. There are
several guys who are currently and MVP conversations that have
reinvented themselves. And you know, I don't want to jump

(19:26):
the gun, but once you once you have a you
get the confidence and the joy of playing like you've
never played before. It breeds it just it really breeds confidence.

(19:52):
It really breeds a different mentality. So now you're looking
at the same game through a different lens, and that's
what we're seeing. That's why we're seeing these quarterbacks who
have been in, who put in better positions, be better,
make better choices, feel more confident, comfortable, more confident. And

(20:16):
I'm all for it. I'm all for it. I hate
the notion of just throwing talent away because it didn't
work here or there. And you know, shout out to Sam.
He's he's doing it.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
They gonna ride this wave as long as they go,
as long as they can.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well, you know, you know, here's the statement that I
hear a lot, and it's kind of like college football rankings,
which for my taste, come out way too early. I'm like,
I have this crazy idea, which is like, let's play
before we rank, let's play before we rank. Oh, they're
the number one ranked team in the country, are they there?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And oh, here's something else that comes to early, the
statement that's the best division in football, whatever division we're
talking about. That's something that develops now. You and I
probably both would have agreed if you had asked us
three weeks ago, we would have pointed to the AFC North,
which has a total of one team with a winning record,

(21:14):
and they didn't look very good today. So I don't
think that's the best division in football. I think it's
better than their showing right now. I think the team
that is playing this minute is going to definitely have
a winning record, and in this moment they don't. But
can we talk about the NFC North for a second
where we can count them zero teams have a losing record?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Zero?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know, you again, get through your four game stretch
at least two and two, Well check all of them?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Did it? That's that's a that's a big that's a
big thing moving forward, huge because it gives you a
barometer of where you are and what you need to
work on. Right now, we have enough information about the
type of team you are and can be. I said

(22:13):
it before. You know, coaches look at these the schedule
and they break them up in quarters plus one game.
But if you handle your quarters early, that one game
won't matter. So after four weeks you reassess who you are,

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what you've done better, what you've done, great, what you've done,
what you need to work on. But it lends to
the type of team you are in. Minnesota's a winning
team they are, you know, Detroit has one more to
go green Bay, whether the storm of their starting quarterback

(23:00):
going down, I don't won a game with him, right,
how about that him?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Without him?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I thought for sure they would have given him one
more week.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
People, especially at home, and it just felt to me
like one more week would have done him because watching
him limp around off the back for no mobility through

(23:36):
a bunch of interceptions, to me, it didn't feel necessary.
It didn't feel necessary because either way you were gonna
come out either ahead or tied up at the at
the end of the first quarter in terms of your record.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Division game though, like I get it. I I toltally
and I get what you're saying. And hopefully he came
out okay, and now you can and you know, shut
it down for a handful more dates.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Derrick Henry and everything is touchdown. Run yep, there he goes.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Can you hear? Can you hear the roof of my
house caving in?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Somebody somebody upstairs has Derrick Henry on their face. I mean,
I think one of my children almost just came through
the floor. Oh wow, I'm downstairs and I'm like, is
it an earthquake. No, it's Derrick Henry. Let's find out
more about it, actually from our buddy Martin Wisse, who
was standing by with everything that is trending.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Hey, Mark, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
The Bills also thought it was an earthquake as Derrick
Henry rumbled is eighty seven yards. First carry from scrimmage
for Derick Henry eighty seven yard touchdown run with ten
minutes and fifty seconds left in the first quarter, justin
Tucker attempting the extra point out. Buffalo had the ball
to start Josh Allen just with five yards passing again
early ongoing fifteen yards rushing for the Bill. They punted

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on the first possession and Derrick Henry on the first
play from scrimmage for Baltimore. Took care of the rest
and the rest of the NFL games that just wrapped up.
We had the Chiefs beat the Chargers seventeen to ten,
Kansas City States undefeated, but loses wide receiver Rashi Rice.
He was carded to the locker room in the first half.
He's suspected to be gone with an ACL injury unfortunately

(25:23):
for of the Chiefs, so now they will be missing
Hollywood Brown who they signed in the offseason, and Rashi Rice.
On a play in which Mahomes to an interception and
was trying to make a tackle, he actually actually made
contact with his on wide receiver Travis Kelcey had seven
catches for eighty nine yards.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Justin Herbert came in the game nicked up.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
He finished one hundred and seventy seventy nine yards passing
and a touchdown. The Raiders held on to beat the
Browns twenty to sixteen. Nick Chubb expected to return and
practice next week. Deshaun Watson had one touchdown one hundred
and seventy five yards passing. As said, the Raiders were
able to hang on beat them Raiders scoring Browns woring
a defensive touchdown in this game as well.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Forty nine Ers beat the Patriots thirty to thirteen.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
Fred Warner had a pick six and Brock Purty connected
with George Kittle for a twelve yard touchdown. Pass Commanders
continue their hot offensive streak forty two points for them
today as they beat the Cardinals forty two to fourteen.
Jadeen Daniels, the first quarterback in NFL history, not for
rookies all of NFL history, to complete at least eighty
five percent of his passes in two consecutive games. He

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was twenty six for thirty for two hundred and thirty
three yards through the air, a touchdown in an interception,
and a rushing touchdown as well.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
C J.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Stroud had three hundred and forty five yards passing and
two touchdowns as the Texans come from behind and beat
the Jaguars twenty four to twenty. The Jaguars fall to
owen four, Bengals avoid owing four as they beat the
Panthers thirty four to twenty four. Joe Burrow with two
touchdowns an interception. Jamar Chase three catches, one touchdown, eighty
five yards receiving. Buccaneers jumped out on the Eagles early

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and never looked back thirty three to sixteen. Baker Mayfield
three hundred and forty seven yards, two touchdowns and at
a rushing touchdown.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Mike Evans had one receiving.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
Broncos adged the Jets ten to nine, New York missing
a field goal to winning in the game that had
very little offense. Bow Knicks, the winning quarterback, going for
sixty yards at one point, had seven completions for negative
seven yards. He somehow threw a touchdown as well Aaron
Rodgers two hundred twenty five yards, but was sacked five times.
Anthony Richardson got knocked out of the game with a

(27:23):
right hit pointer injury, with the Colts still hold on
to beat the Steelers twenty seven to twenty four. The
Steelers worth three to oher going into the game. Joe
Flacco had two touchdown passes, Jonathan Taylor eighty eight yards
rushing and a touchdown justin fields one touchdown two on
the ground. Bears defeated the Rams twenty four to eighteen.

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Caleb Williams seventeen for twenty three, one hundred and fifty
seven yards and a touchdown, John Dre swib ninety three
yards in a touchdown and finally I lost my spot.
Here we go the Vikings. You guys are just talking
about him. Stay undefeated. They beat the Packers thirty one
twenty nine Minnesota despite only scoring three points in the
second half. Jordan Love did play through three interceptions, had

(28:06):
four touchdown passes. Xavier McKinney has four interceptions. He was
brought over to the Packers from the Giants. Sam Darnold
three touchdowns and an interception, two hundred seventy five yards passing,
and the Falcons walk off the Saints on a fifty
eight yard Young Way Coup field goal, his fourth of
the day. They beat the Saints twenty six to twenty four.
And in Major League Baseball, the AL wild Card is

(28:28):
set Tigers and the Astros and the Royals and the
Orioles to School Treek School Bowl won the AL pitching
Triple Crown with eighteen wins two hundred two point three
to nine ERA two under twenty eight strikeouts. Luis Araaz
the first player in history to win three consecutive batting
titles with three different teams. This one was with the Padres.
And the Mets and the Braves have a double headed tomorrow.

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If they split the doubleheader, both teams will clinch in
the NL wildcard spots. If either team loses, then the
Diamondbacks falls in there.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
From Mark back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Okay, that's thorough. That's good.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Thank you, Martin tyreg dot Com Studios appreciate it. More
on Rashi Rice in a few but because of what
just took place with Derrick Henry, I just want to
say this.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I hope you're on the Ravens tonight.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I uncorked what for me is what I'm I'm willing
to uncork, which is not much. But the Ravens minus
two and a half tonight was my absolute favorite pick
of the weekend. And it's it's really simply this. There's
a lot of different ways you can say it. I'll
start with this. We're letting a funky, circumstantial Raiders fourth

(29:44):
quarter comeback shade our view of this team. The Ravens
are who we think they are. I have no doubt
in my mind, and this one and two start. If
they were two and one and their only loss had
been Isaiah Likely's toe is on the line in Kansas
City on the NFL opener, and then they had taken
care of the Raiders as they.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Were the whole game, and they blow out Dallas.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I know it got close late, but they blew Dallas
out in the first half of that football game. If
that's who we were looking at tonight, we would still
be talking about the Ravens the same way we talk
about the Chiefs and the Bills, and that's very much
who I still think they are.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
I agree with that, and I'm sure the whole league
agrees with that too. No one's going into the one
and two Raiders Ravens thinking that, hey, we got this
one right, right, we're better than this team. Now, you
may think that, but you still got to go out
and beat this team. And they got way too many

(30:45):
weapons defensively and offensively for you to believe that they're
not a championship caliber team. They just got to put
it all together, and it is. You know, they're off
to a great start. I can tell you that.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, I mean, their defense is not like looking as
dynamic as we've come to know it to look in
years past.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
At the same time, I'm looking around the league for
the defenses that you can really really count on, and
uh boy, it's pretty few.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
And far betwy sparse.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, like we thought Pittsburgh and New Orleans, they both
were a little wonky today. You know who's got a
great defense but it won't matter is the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Their defense is.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Phenomenal, but they're gonna score probably even fewer.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know, every now and again, you could get If
they can win with ten, they'll win with ten. Outside
of that, it's probably probably gonna be a loss.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I know they've won two in a row.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Give them their flowers, hey man, anytime you can win
with a rookie quarterback, you get flowers. Sure, especially that
gross game on the road rain is just against Aaron Rodgers. Yup,

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like that's that's a bouquet. That's just not a flower,
that's bo that's a bouquet.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
We'll get to your guy, Aaron Rodgers tonight as well.
Don't don't worry about that. I would love to discuss
that football game, as ugly as it was. That said,
coming up next, dive a little bit further into Rishi
rice because it's almost like you and I get to
now do a season long science experiment with something that

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we've been discussing, and the four O Chiefs are kind
of gonna be the frog that we dissect in science class.
If you will, I'll explain all of that in just
a minute. Tyre Reck dot com Studios with me from
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Speaker 1 (33:01):
These are the tyrag dot com studios. That's where we sit.
Mark Willardy from Salam Week four National Football League, tgging
it out, figuring it out. Well, the Vikings might be four,
and oh guess who else is well? The Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Of course, the Kansas City Chiefs, even though I don't
know that you walk out of any of their four wins.
Maybe the opening night game against the Ravens, but since
then you'd look.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
At all three and kind of go eh, like, I
don't know, it doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Look right, but you know what, it kind of often
didn't look right last year.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
It's really really good bad team.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right, Yeah, they just end up with more points than
the other team almost every time.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
It's wild. But Hollywood Brown was signed in the offseason.
He'll miss the season.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
WHERESHI Rice is your number one, he'll miss the season
dot dot dot wethink. I don't want to act like
this is already confirmed, but certainly the fears have been
widely reported. Check he'll suffered a torn acl today. You
have a first round wide receiver in Xavier are Worthy,
but he feels more to me like a situational threat

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than kind of an every down lead guy.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, he's a year away from understanding speed isn't everything,
you know.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, So what do you think? Man?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Here we are doling out thirty to thirty five mil
for wide receivers and the Chiefs appear ready to play
their year without any.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I mean they have the outlier which any team would
would would take over any of their receivers, and that's
Patrick Mahomes. Sure, the great eraser. Tom Brady gave that
to that nickname to Lamar Jackson. But when you have

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a team that struggles, may turn the ball over, anything
like that, give up sacks or anything like that, false
starts penalties, you never really panic and there's comfort there.
You never panic because as long as there's time on

(35:32):
the clock, I mean thirteen seconds, then you know you
got a shot and there's comfort there. There's a lot
of comfort there, and so there's never a lot of
panic around. And for whatever reason, much like last year,

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they're muddling along, not very space tacular, even you know,
you're getting a lot of help. I will say that
they're getting a lot of help from some very auspicious
calls or lack of thereof.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I don't want to call them the twelfth Man because
that's Seattle, so let's tell them the thirteenth.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Man whatever it is it or woman. Kind of weird,
but when you look at it, they're right there there
man and it's it's it's a head scratcher. But they
have something no other team has, and that's Patrick Mahomes.

(36:41):
And when you have that, you can make mistakes. It's
what what what New England had for so many years.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
It's just we're.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Good, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well. I still have questions, and I don't mean about Patrick.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I still just I have questions about the construct of
a team. And you're right, there's no match for Patrick Mahomes.
I get that, but at the same time, not really
the only team doing it. I look at one of
the two teams, in fact, maybe I look at both
of the teams playing right now, and Buffalo is three

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and zero, and we already talked out our thoughts on Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I think it's a very wobbly one and two.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I don't think that is an accurate portrayal of who
they are and who they're going to be. I think
these are two of the better teams in the AFC,
and they also are going pretty faceless with.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Their wide receiver room for the most part.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
You know, the Bills actively attempted to do that this
offseason by moving Stefan Diggs and by letting Gabe Davis walk.
And I understand they spent some early capital on a
wide receiver, but they've got one player so far who
has double digit catches on the year. One player, and
his name is Khalil Shakir, and he is the size

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of like I have. I have a kid who's bigger
than he is. So and you know you're the Ravens,
say Flowers. Okay, but I just again a point I've
made last week. I think you can function without doing
the thirty million dollar receiver.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Oh you can. You definitely can, because you place that
money elsewhere. You build a team, and say what you
want about Kansas City, they have a good team. When
the defense needs to make a stop, they make a stop,
right like when you know, watching that game today, when
they had to get a stop, they got to stop.

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You know, Chris Jones is he's unblockable in those situations.
We've seen it year after year after year. That's what
he paid them. When you need He won the Super
Bowl for him, yes, here he won and the playoff games, yes,
because when it comes down to it, when you when
you get there in that type of situation, it comes

(39:15):
down to a couple of plays. And if your defensive
guy can give you that when need be, then yeah,
pay him the money. And you don't have to break
the bank for receivers because you have Patrick Mahomes. If
you can run with legs and stop, he's gonna get

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you the ball.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Right. I mean that said, do you think the Chiefs
are going to be okay? Here?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I think it's going to I don't think they're going to. Yeah,
they're going to find a way, you know, barn injury
to the guy we're talking about. But other than that, yeah,
because they're well coached, they don't beat them that far.
Penalties in three or four of them. We're on one
offensive lineman. So yeah, yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
All right, let's talk about your boy Aaron Rodgers coming
up next.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Into the night. We go all across the land, so
glad that you are with us.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
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Derek Henry's second touchdown of the night. This one, however,
comes in a different form. If you've got Lamar Jackson
on your fantasy team, he helped you too. That's a
pass five yards Jackson to Henry and the Ravens are.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Up by double digits.

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Speaker 1 (40:56):
All right. I never try to go.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Too deep into stats because they only tell a certain
portion of the story. But by the same token, you
know this very well, Ephraim, Like, for instance, when you
were just the late round draft pick that no one
was expecting anything from, and then when you turned into
the free agent left tackle sinee that came with it

(41:22):
a very different level of responsibility and, by the way,
a different level of blame when things didn't go well,
whether it was your fault or not.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Accurate.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, okay, So, like I'm looking at the New York
Jets and I really like Robert Salah, I really do.
He did good things as the defensive coordinator for the
San Francisco forty nine ers, It's one of the big
reasons he got the job. It's one of the big
reasons that Demiko Ryans followed in his footsteps and has

(41:54):
a team of his own now as well. But I
look at this and I look at forty year old
Aaron Rodgers, and he didn't turn the ball over today
or any of that. I just have a feeling where
this is going. Brisol ran for four yards today.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I know it was raining.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I know the Bronco defense is good, but the Jets
very much have a feel now of a team that
is going to middle is going to be five hundred,
not dynamic enough on offense, even with a healthy Aaron Rodgers.
Games like today at home where the end zone is

(42:34):
not used are just they're not gonna fly. And it
doesn't matter what the intricacies of the reasons are. It's
going to land on those two guys.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well, of course it's going to land on those two guys.
That's what we've been hearing for the last two years.
They're a quarterback away, they're at Aaron Rodgers away, and obviously,
you know gross games like that, you gotta be able
to run the ball. The offensive line there them losing

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their Moses the right tackle. I believe it's it's it's
going to hurt. Aaron Rodgers isn't the Aaron Rodgers from
Green Bay where he's mobile. He's not the Aaron Rodgers
pre Achilles injury, and he was hit far too many times.
He tried to extend plays, which is just an eight.

(43:34):
It's it's a natural thing for him, but he doesn't
have that level of you know, explosion and ability to
a who to to really make it matter. And it's
what he's doing is putting himself in harm's way. And

(43:57):
he was banged up, he was limping. We'll see what
the end report says this week. But in order to
slide into a playoff Berth, he's got to be healthy.
And so you got to figure out a way collectively
to use your running game. You got to figure out

(44:19):
a way collectively to take some of the pressure off
Aaron Rodgers. Sometimes you gotta protect him from himself because
he's not who he The one thing we as athletes,
as we as we age and mentally, we can do
everything we did when we first got into the league

(44:40):
right mentally, it's like, oh, I can hold on to
the ball here, I can pump fake and then I
can get out to the edge and pick up yards
hit somebody wide open. But physically, like through our lens,
we're doing that, but to everybody else it's like we're
running in oatmeal. And so sometimes you have to be
able to to protective player from themselves. And that's what

(45:03):
they're going to have to do in terms of these
play callings, like you gotta it's got's the ball, It's
got to come out because he's not going to be
able to make it if it continues like this.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I will add one other thing because I know there
are probably people listening who who you know, if you
watch the game and you saw the flow of it,
I think everything we just said stands, But there is
one other thing.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
They need a new kicker.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
This is this is something that you know, similar to
what I said last week, where if I'm the Miami Dolphins,
this is great that Snoop Huntley's coming in. Let's see
how he does tomorrow. But if I'm the Miami Dolphins,
I'm making phone calls right now.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
You mentioned Tannehill.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I'd call the Steelers, although today wasn't necessarily the greatest
day for that, but I'd call the Steelers see about
Russell Wilson, I would be canvassing the league for what
I could do at quarterback because if there isn't something
that's better, that season is over. I feel the same
about kickers, and I know it is a fun story.
For example, in Green Bay, Oh you rookie, brand.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
New guy, we're done, We're done.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
You lose games by two points where you miss two
field goals and one of them was from thirty five yards.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I'm sorry. Like, I just think there's certain.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Spots in the NFL where you have to have very
little patience, very little patience. I know it was raining,
I know it was forty eight yards for greg'szerline today
in New York. But he hooked a forty yarder last week.
He just hasn't been good. I don't know what happened
to his leg. It's not right. And the way the

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Jets play football, they need to kick three through the
goalposts when they have it.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
They haven't been doing it. They can't wait any longer.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
No, No, it's some I mean the game was there.
That was it. I mean it was there, and you
know it comes down to one possession of kick routine,
bad weather, whatever you gotta make that. You gotta get

(47:12):
out of there with an ugly win. And that's the thing.
That's why I believe Kansas City is so dangerous not
to switch back to them. They're winning ugly games. Patrick
Mahomes hasn't thrown for three hundred yards and I don't
know how long.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh, they don't even do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
They're winning ugly and that's so dangerous for everyone else.
So you have to be able to win the games
that you probably shouldn't have winning the ones you should is.
You know, that's one thing. But the Jets you gotta beat.

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You gotta beat a rookie quarterback at home in bad weather.
You have to. I mean, defense gave up ten points.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
He threw, he threw for sixty yards, like he couldn't
complete a pass.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, like that, just you know what I mean? Like that?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
That that that was that was not a functional offense
today for the Denver Broncos, and they won a football game.
And it's very reminiscent of what the Jets looked like
without Aaron Rodgers. That's exactly the kind of football games
they've been playing for the last couple of years. It's

(48:44):
what caused them to draft Zach Wilson. It's what caused
them to move on from Zach Wilson.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Somewhere Zach Wilson right now is laughing.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
You know exactly where he is. I think he was
on the other sideline today.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
That's where he is, just a chuckle in a way,
just laughing.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Not that he's really got anything to laugh about.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I mean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I don't know that. I don't know that he's got
anything to peacock about.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
But the bottom line is is you know, if you
grabbed Garrett Wilson in round two of your fantasy or
you're a New York fan or whatever it is, it's
exactly what you said. We've been told for a long
time that as soon as you gave that team it
was turn key. They were a healthy, good quarterback away

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from being dynamic.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
They're not. They're not.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
They've they've played four games. They've scored seventy six points.
That's less than twenty a game. A Man, I thought
you'd be happy about this conversation because I know Aaron's
not you know, your favorite guy.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, but you still right, like I'm always gonna pull
for guys from my era.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Okay, that's fair, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I'm always I'm always gonna be that guy because if
you're still playing, I've been out the league fourteen years,
just FYI. And so if you're if you're still going, man,
if you're still cranking. I wasn't a Toime fan, but
when he went to when he went to Tampa Bay,

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I was pulling for him, which felt weird.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
How many dudes are still in the league that you
played against?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Oh? God, probably five.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Yeah, there can't be fourteen.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, I've been out of the league fourteen years.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, Like it gotta be dudes that were like rookies
when you when you left.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But it's a long NFL career, fourteen years.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah. And so with all that said, they're okay because
they're two and two.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
You're not wrong with all that. And so you know,
we want to, you know, go crazy and it doesn't
look good and and and it doesn't. But the bottom
line is they're two and two. They pushed the first quarter, right.
All you need to do is is is try to

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win two two of these quarters, three of these quarters.
And so they're okay, they're okay, And you look at
the way they've lost, and you're like, okay, well this
is we can. We can, we can, We'll be okay.
They're they're a kick a field goal away from being

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three and one, and we're having a different conversation.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
However, I do remember feeling some of the things I'm
saying to you right now.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I was feeling them throughout the game.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yes, it did. It didn't feel good or to watch it.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I cannot imagine ever a football game where Breece Hall
rushes for four yards. Yeah, I don't even understand that.
He's way too good and watching that game like it
was one of those games where the stats that kept
coming up were like not stats, but they were factoids
that were sort of used to make fun of the

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two teams playing. It was like almost halftime and the
Jets got a first down and the TV screen's like, well,
that's the first throwing first down of the game at halftime,
and you're like, what are they?

Speaker 1 (52:32):
What's everybody doing out there?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I get sloppy, Sure, the weather, two good defenses, I
understand all of it. But Aaron Rodgers, Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson,
Mike Williams, Allen Lazard, this is just some stuff all
over the field.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Man.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Well, and they can't move the ball.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
No, And it comes down to this. Bow Nicks do
the ball twenty five times, heating in sacked. Aaron Rodgers
throw the ball forty two times, got sacked five times.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
In a game like that, you gotta have more than
twenty three carries. You have to because defensively you gave
up ten points. So you can stress the running game.
You have to. You have to go away from Aaron

(53:30):
being Aaron and taking over like you have in that game.
Aaron Rodgers didn't need to throw the ball forty two times.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Your points were very well taken because, by the way
of the twenty three carries, five of them were Aaron,
which exactly supposed to be passes too. Yes, they only
handled the ball to their backs eighteen times.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
So essentially eighteen running plays.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, and priests only got ten of those. Braylen Allen
looks good too, like nothing against that.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
You have a two headed mine, so you should have
been pounding, pounding, And I know, look, Denver is stout inside,
but you gotta come up with a way. Like I said,
sometimes you have to protect players from themselves mentally we're
the same, and you're twelve, you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

(54:21):
as we were in year two, three, four five, physically
far from it.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Glad you're with us. Coming up next, the debate is
so over. I'm so over it. You and I have
been chopping down this tree for over a year. If
you don't know what I'm talking about, there's literally an
opinion that's out there that I forbid people from.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Having it anymore.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
And we'll talk about that next with me from Salama,
Mark Willard.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
It's week four, It's Fox Sports Radio. We are live
in the tire rag dot com studios with e from
Salam Mark Willard.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I felt comfortable bringing this up today because I already
well know where you stand on this. But look, I
don't want to come off as hard headed. I don't
want to come off as dismissive. There are certain things
in life where I'm like, look, I'm not budging, I'm
not buzzing.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I'm not budging on.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Racism, I'm not budging on sexism, and I'm not budging
on brockism.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I won't do it, can do it like I just
it's okay.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
It is okay to be wrong. I'm wrong all the time.
Everybody misses its sports. Get in line.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
If you've done the product of a system and good teammates.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
And sing a lot with a good coach, it's tucked
in by. If you've said any of this crap, just
stand up and be counted and say you're wrong about
brock Party. If you've got any opinion other than he's fantastic,

(56:19):
you're just wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
You're wrong. I don't know what else to say. Watch
the man play, watch him play, look at the data,
watch it blow up all of them, Oh, dank and dog.
It just throws overth Just watch the game.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
You're wrong, and ask yourself who has out of the
quarterbacks you do love, do they have more three hundred
yard passing games than brock Party since he's been in
the league, who has more? Just throwing it out there.
I know he has more than Patrick Holmes.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
It's so crazy when you watch him play the number
and he actually he threw an ill advised pick in
the end zone today. He threw three touchdowns in four
plays at one point, which is really hard to do.
I don't know if you're watching that. Yes I was,
but two touchdowns got called absolute.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
They had a bad like not no homeriism here, thank
you for back even agregious, objectively terrible flags. And he
just kept throwing touchdown passes.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
And his ability his legs are so much better than
anyone thought. And you know, okay, the processing, his ability
to keep a play alive, his ability to communicate with
his teammates. Last week with Kittle and Debo and everybody out,
Juwan goes for one hundred and seventy five. I don't know,

(58:09):
I don't know where to go with this conversation anymore.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Well, look, you don't have to go anywhere, because we
can stop talking about it. We've been on this train
for two years, yes, right in this very same time slot.
We witnessed the birth of rock Party and the start
of his career all the way through to where we

(58:33):
are now. And he's been sensational. And I've always always
had the same exact argument for the naysayers. If brock
Party were a first round draft pick, Oh my god,
two years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation, of

(58:56):
course not, and just that alone, let you know how
asinine your criticism is. Just that fact alone. If he
were the tenth pick in the draft, instead of the

(59:17):
last pick in the draft. We would be praising him.
Remember what we did with c. J. Stroud, Remember what
we're doing with Jaydon Daniels. We're doing it currently right now,

(59:40):
of course. And if brock Party were a top ten pick,
this would be well, that's why they moved up to
get him. But because he's not, everybody's holding their breath
like way he can't. I mean, the reason he's doing
it because he got this bed and that and the

(01:00:00):
throwing it at him. And it's crazy to me to
watch this young man play, right my criteria? What did
I tell you for young quarterbacks? Does the game seem
too fast? Noep, never has, never has. Does the moment
seem too big? No? Guess what. Philly wouldn't have had

(01:00:26):
an opportunity to lose in the super Bowl if Brock
doesn't get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I know that there are those, including everyone from Philadelphia,
that believe that that game was going a different way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
There's no way to know what would.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Have happened next one. I'm just telling you. I'm just
letting you know, based on what I've seen from both teams,
they don't win that game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
You know what's wild to me is the debate rages
and it's like, don't listen to me, listen to you,
or how about this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
If that's not good enough for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
You, check out what Drew Brees said this little snippet
from The Herd this week.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Drew Brees.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Okay, one of the guys he's been compared to size wise.
This is what Drew Brees said about brock Party.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
I mean I could tell the moment I saw the
first half of the first game that he played, I'm like, okay, Like,
this guy is in command of the offense. This guy's
in and out of the huddle. He's controlling the line
of scrimmage right, the shifts, the motions, all the things
that that offense requires in a field general to be
able to coordinate. Oh man, he's got incredible rhythm. He

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throws with a great base. He's very calm, he's very poised. Right,
nothing seems to shake him, you know. So like all
those things I pick up on right away, and then
it's like, Okay, where the heck did this guy come from?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
And we could do that, we could fill the rest
of the night with quarterback greats who say stuff like that.
Kurt Warner has done it, Tom Brady has done it,
Troy Aikman has done it. Drew Brees is doing it.
I don't know if ever, do people think that those
guys have an agenda?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Yes? Why?

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Because how does it help Drew Brees to feel that
way about?

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
It has become more and more prevalent. Do people want
to be contrary? Well, people don't believe the people who know,
no matter what. And that's the problem. People always want

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to be right, whether they're wrong or not. So you
just that's why I said, stop having those conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Well, yeah, no, no, no, of course course.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Because look what they always say. The numbers don't lie.
The numbers don't lie. Wins and losses don't lie. It's
hard to win seventy percent of your games as a
quarterback if you're terrible. Is you know how hard it

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is to get to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Brother, all r an NFC championship game and that's all
you've done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
He's never not done that, he's never not done the
NFC championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Imagine that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Imagine that. All right, let's get Martin Weis in here,
and then we'll keep cooking because there's another young quarterback.
We got to talk about go ahead, Martin. What's trending?

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Twenty one to three right now?

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
The score with just under four minutes in the second quarter,
the Ravens with the lead. Lamar Jackson with two touchdowns
through the air. Dereck Henry the recipient one of those touchdowns.
He also has a rushing touchdown as he took the
first play from scrimmage for the Ravens eighty seven yards
to go ahead and score the first touchdown and what
would be the first touchdown of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Baltimore only a I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (01:04:12):
Buffalo only able to respond with a fifty yard Tyler
Bass field goal right now as Baltimore has the ball
driving down the field again three forty five left in
the second quarter. NFL results from earlier today, the Chargers
beat the I'm sorry. The Chiefs beat the Chargers seventeen
to ten. Kansas City States undefeated, but loses wide receiver
Rashid Rice out. He was out with a knee injury

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suspected to be an ACL Raiders hold on to beat
the Browns twenty to sixteen, but good news for Cleveland
as Nick Chubbs expected to return to practice next week
forty nine Ers beat the Patriots started to thirteen. Brock Party,
like you said, had a hell of a game today,
connected with George Kittle for a twelve yard touchdown in
a game in which several forty nine ers were out
due to injury. Fred Warner also with a pick six.

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Commanders beat the Cardinals forty two to fourteen. Jayden Daniels,
the first quarterback in the NFL history to have completed
at least eighty five percent of his passes and two
consecutive games, also set the record for most highest completion
percentage through four games. Through his first four games of
the season with the minimum seventy five fasting attempts, he
passed Tom Brady for that mark. Jaden's was eighty two

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point one Texans with a twenty four to twenty win
over the Jaguars, who would stay zero to four.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
C J.

Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
Stroud with two touchdown passes the Bengals avoid ozh and four.
They outscore the Panthers thirty four to twenty four. Joe
Burrow two touchdowns and an interception. Jamar Chase with a
touchdown through the air. Buccaneers came out hot and never
looked back. They beat the Eagles thirty three to sixteen.
Baker Mayfield two touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. To add
to that, Mike Evans caught one of those TVs. Broncos

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adds the Jets ten to nine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
New York.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
Greg Zerlin missed a field goal that would have won
the game. Bo Nicks sixty yards passing through the air
in the win. At one point had seven completions for
nine us seven yards through the air. Col told want
to beat the Steelers twenty seven to twenty four despite
losing quarterback Anthony Richards into a hit pointer. The hope
is he will miss little or no game action. Bears
beat the Rams twenty four to eighteen. Caleb Williams with

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the touchdown one hundred fifty seven yards passing. Falcons walk
it off after the Saints Muffedy punt and the Falcons
got a touchdown out of it and also a pick six.
They had four made field goals by Young Wayku final
score twenty six twenty four. Atlanta and the Vikings stay undefeated.
They beat the Packers thirty one to twenty nine. Jordan

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Love was questionable to play. He ends up playing four touchdowns,
three interceptions fifty four attempts for love in Major League Baseball.
They're double header tomorrow between the Mets and the Braves.
If they split, both teams go to the playoffs. If
either team sweeps, then the Diamondbacks are in. The AL
wildcard matchup is all set the Tigers and the Astros,

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and is also the Royals playing the Baltimore Orioles. Cherich
Scooball from the Tigers won the AL Pitching Triple Crown
with eighteen wins, two point three nine ERA, and two
hundred and twenty eight strikeouts. Chris Sale he could win
it the National League, but he has to pitch tomorrow,
so we'll see what his final numbers end up being.
Lusia Ries the first player in baseball history to win

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three consecutive batting titles with three different teams. This one
was with the San Diego Padres. He from re Mark
back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Okay, Martin, thank you very much. We are live in
the Tirack dot Com studios and as we watch the
cruising Baltimore Ravens, at least momentarily have to pause because
Lamar Jackson fumbled.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
After taking a big hit. It's interesting that he does that.
He's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
And he's up to the sideline and look, you know,
I remember saying to you last week, some of these players,
you gotta let them be who they are. This is
what makes them special. And so Lamar is going to
take some hits here and there. Jayden Daniels is going
to take some hits here and there. I also believe,
and I've been told this because I've never been out there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
You tell me, there's a little bit of an art
to this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
How to take a hit, how to slide, when to
take a hit, etc. We're watching two quarters tonight who
people worry about because of this, But there's one who,
in very limited NFL action, has shown me like he

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needs to go get a tutorial from Lamar or Josh
or somebody. Anthony richards Richardson is never going to make
it through a season.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
He's never gonna make it through a season.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I mean, put aside the hospital balls and overthrows that
have been come in the last three weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
He was actually throwing the ball pretty well today.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
He was having his best game and then he left
with a hip injury that came actually right before he
came back in and looked like he might have gotten
his bell rung also then left didn't come back. I
don't know what the outlook is. Flaco came in and
did what Flaco does and the Colts won the game.

(01:09:00):
But you tell me, what is this art of taking
a hit? Because Anthony Richardson right now does not have it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I mean, the art of taking a hit is not
to take a hit when you're a quarterback. That's the
art of it. Avoidance. Anthony richards And he's big, he's strong,
he's powerful, and so that's how he's played his whole life.

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Most of the time he's bigger than the people hitting him,
except for the two years he's been in a league
where he's not, and he's been hurt both years. So
the art is sometimes you gotta protect him from themselves. Right,

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Cam found out the hard way dramatically shortened his career,
but even with that, Cam was still dynamic because he
can cut you your head off from the pocket as well.
Lamar Jackson doesn't really take outside of the one we
just saw in a couple. He's very elusive.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
He's very good at avoiding him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Yes, Jaydon Daniels, you're not about to hit him?

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Well, they worked like crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Man, I'm not right, one hundred and seventy pounds soaking wet, I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Know, and they were terrified of it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
They like I heard that the Washington training camp was
essentially about that and very little album. Of course, Jayden,
you're not taking hits. Jaden, You're not taking hits. They
really had to work on him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
You can't look, man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I know it's crazy out there, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Yes, And so it's one of those things where to
to to get on that game to talk about that,
because I wanted to get there. Worst thing ever that
could have happened to the Steelers, worst thing's that? What's

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that Joe Flacco coming into that game.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Yeah they are already losing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
No, not like that, not like this. You saw how
the game ended up, right, It wasn't. Yeah yeah it
was close. Yeah yeah, they made it right out of them.
So what I'm saying is Joe Flacco coming into that
game changed everything. It now opened the playbook up completely.

(01:11:56):
M Pittsburgh did not prepare for that. They didn't they
prepared for a limited pocket passing quarterback. So you gear
your whole defense to that. I like when I watch

(01:12:17):
my college play which is some trash this year bry
the way and they're playing a team and the starting
quarterback goes down. I just put my head down because
the unexpected or the unknown is coming in here. It comes, yep,
and you never want to deal with the unknown because

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you may not be able to adjust to it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Well, you noticed the Colts high price receiver suddenly had
one hundred yards of course, all of the sudden, and
I know, look at what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
And in Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Yep, Deontay Johnson is the thing again and again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
The work that the stealers would be four and oh
if Anthony Ridgardson doesn't get hurt, wow, there would be Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
All right, let's let's get into that a little bit
more coming up next. That's that's interesting to me. Plus
trade concepts for a very big name. Has everything changed
based on some information we got forty eight hours ago.
We'll tell you what we're talking about. That's all around
the Bend. It's week four. That's e from Salama. I'm
Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's

(01:13:37):
ride tyreck dot Com studios with he from Salama.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Mark Willard. Let me pivot for a second. I got
a weird question for you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
When is it okay, or how often does it happen
to sort of get mad at a teammate? And I
get that, especially with cameras everywhere, like the effort is
is put in to sort of like figure out the
right time to do it. But many years ago, I

(01:14:10):
used to work in restaurants, and every industry has a culture.
And because restaurants are frenetic and busy, it's Friday night,
it's seven point thirty, people are moving, right, it's customer service.
There's sort of this concept that's like it's okay to
kind of bark at each other. And I would imagine

(01:14:36):
if a restaurant feels frenetic, I can only imagine what
a football sideline feels like. And because Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs,
everything that just happened there the last couple of years,
I'm watching the brand new draft pick Keon Coleman, who
there's already some video that's out there that I don't

(01:14:56):
know how to translate, which is sort of Josh Allen
like kind of being dismissive of him at times on
the sideline, when you're down twenty one to three on
Sunday night football, you get a Lamar Jackson fumble and
then you hawk it down the left sideline to your
early round wide receiver draft pick, and it lands right
in his basket and then he doesn't catch it. What

(01:15:23):
happens next? Tell me what's going on right now? At halftime,
may you almost made me flash into We almost had
to be on the patrick, had to be on the
dump button because it instantly I was just gonna just
flashing like we were having a convererce sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Look, we have such a great relationship in chemistry. Did
sometimes I feel like I'm just at the house talking
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
We should do that sometime, by the way, the way
I looked at what your little football room looks like,
let's just do the show in there. You can come home, man,
I'll come down there for that anyway. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Look, it's veteran. It's a veterans leader's responsibility to make
sure all players, including especially young players, understand the especially
in a game like this, the urgent, the urgency of

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the game. And now when you're down like you like this,
when you start like this, you have to be perfect.
And no one's perfect. No, no, no no. They pay us
to be perfect, so we must strive for perfection. And

(01:16:51):
it's one of those situations where you have to make
that catch. That's what greatness is said, how Kobe doing it?
How this? And how does Patrick mahomes and how did
Jerry write you? When you have to do it, you
do it justin Jefferson, justin Jefferson. I mean, like that's

(01:17:16):
as clear as day. So you want to just make
them aware of that. Maybe a little bit more colorful,
but it's a grow up hey man. You getting paid.

(01:17:39):
I don't care how long you've been in the league.
You don't get to we don't get to lose this
game and then go to class tomorrow, right right, And
and that's the difference. So when you're in situations like this,

(01:18:05):
you must be perfect. And if you can't be, we
gotta find somebody who can.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's twenty one years old, hey man.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Guess what I know? Guess what I know? Hey, No
one cared. Did I have to block Kevin Green my
first game? And then Brian Young and then Michael Strahan
and Jason Taylor. No one cared. Did I was twenty

(01:18:42):
two years old going to gain Leslie nil in the
Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
No one cared because I was there. So eventually you
just gotta let it go, man, and you gotta you
gotta do what they paid you to do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I mean thirty third overall. Pick I like, you know,
I remember, I remember Jerry Rice dropping balls right and
left his rookie year, and then he became the goat.
I'm not dismissing what you're saying at all. I just
I wonder when you're brand new, it's weak four. You know,

(01:19:25):
how long is the leash on emotion?

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Oh no, he ain't. Nobody ain't. Nobody got no time
for that, not in a game like this, because what
you in a game like this, you need something to
go right going in right there? Yes, like you need
something to build off of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no question.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
So twenty one to three at the half for the
Ravens a trade concept, big name next.

Speaker 8 (01:19:57):
Right back on from San Diego State number seventy A
from Salam I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
How good it is it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
I mean, shout out to my guy Iowa Sam filling
Infomarry Tonight. He knows how to get me every time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
And that summer all, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Oh yeah, man, that's great voice anywhere now, Oh I
know that voice anywhere you know, almost failed down right
running out of the tunnel. Tell me the story. First
of all, I mean three hundred and sixty five days,
three hundred and sixty four days prior to that moment,
I was standing on my balcony in San Diego watching

(01:20:41):
the fireworks before the Super Bowl of Super Bowl thirty two,
which was in San Diego, thinking to myself, will I
ever play in the Super Bowl? Fast forward a year
later and I'm being called out in the starting lineup

(01:21:07):
in the Super Bowl for the Atlanta Falcons, and I
just remember my whole body season up and I was
thinking to myself, please don't fall, Please don't fall. Just
get to the hands, Get to the get to the hands.
And I mean it was overwhelming. It was. It was
completely overwhelming. I mean it was just a dream. Man.

(01:21:28):
I'm as a writer in Hollywood. I would find a
reason why I couldn't write that, because it didn't. It
wasn't realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
You know what, I've never asked you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Obviously, I know the way the game went, how do
you feel you played?

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
I messed up on a crucial early in that game.
I messed up on a crucial third down. But outside
of that, I believe I played well, but I had
a We had a two jet protection and I was
supposed to fan out to the will linebacker. They brought

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a Mike Will blitz and at the corner of my eye,
I saw the mic come and I was like, oh,
I got it, and I went back and let the
will come free. I know I remember that because the
Ard Show was like he was crazy on the sideline.
But I will say this, our game plan was different

(01:22:37):
than it normally was that whole year. Jamal Anderson almost
had one hundred yards between the twenties. Between the twenties,
he almost had one hundred yards. When we got to
the redsidon we just stopped running them, which was weird.
We started calling I remember some of the plays we

(01:22:57):
called on the huddle. I'm like, dam we ain't run
at all. It just felt we would really discombinlate and
and Denver was clicking on all cylinders. Sure, sure, so
we were playing catch up from the start, but it just,
you know, we didn't do what we did all year,
and we just gave the ball to Jamal and let

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him take two defenders and we blocked everybody else, which
worked between the twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
So all that's a I call that an Avery Johnson
when that happens, by the way, and Avery Johnson, it's
an Avery Johnson when you do one thing all year
long and then you get to the playoffs and change
and have it not go well. I don't mean to
take a shot at Avery Johnson, but it's a reference
to when drk Nibitski won the MVP and the Dallas

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Mavericks were the one seed and they were taking on
the eight seed Golden State Warriors team that it came
to be known as the We Believe Warriors, and the
Warriors knocked the Mavericks the heck out the playoffs in
six games, and Avery Johnson, they were the one seed,
they'd done things right the whole year, and they were

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the big.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Bad dudes on the block.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
And the Warriors played a different style, and so when
they got to the playoffs, Avery.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Changed his lineup. I was like, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
It was as if he knew there was something that
he was going to need to adjust to even before
the series started, and whatever the adjustment he made was
did not work.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Yeah, Like in this I'm looking at the stats now,
Jamal Anderson had eighteen carries for ninety six yards.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
That's a very that's a that's a solid appyds Carrea. Yeah, yeah,
doing good. We only gave him the ball eighteen times.
I don't know, that's what I mean. Like between the twenties,
we were just mean, it's five yards to carry, it's
nothing they could do to stop us. And then for
whatever reason, we get into the red zone, right outside

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the red zone and Chris Chalder, he threw three picks
in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
That was the game.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
As rooting for you guys, I remember rooting for you guys.
I didn't know you yet, but I was rooting for
you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Yeah, it just it felt weird. It felt different than
what we were as a team. And look, I know
those moments. You know Dan Reeves and he was from Denver,
and you know where players aren't the only ones that
the livereran puckers up. And I'm not placing blame. I'm
just saying, as from a player standpoint, Jamal Anderson, I

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don't know when, at what point in the year did
he only have eighteen carries? Yeah, I mean because you
couldn't you couldn't stop him. He rushed for eighteen hundred
forty six yards. Or fifty yards or something like that,
only second to Terrell Davis. So that's that's that's how

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that's what I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
That's fun, intel man. That's uh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Remember, I really remember. Like I remember we we went
forward on the fourth down and we'd ran a toss
and I was like, a what, like for real? Like
we ran a toss and I'm like, that's not what
we do. We weren't a toss team, Jamal Anderson. You

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didn't toss him the ball? Why you wanted hit him
going downhill right down the middle. Yeah, right now, because
as soon as he made contact with somebody, he was
going to take you for a ride. I don't care
who it was. He was an animal, his big boy.
And I remember we used to be in our install
meetings and you know you could bring nine in the box.

(01:26:58):
He's like, oh, don't worry about those two. You guys
take seven. I take the other two. That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Don't worry about the safety. Oh, don't worry about the corner.
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Did you ever participate in the dirty Bird in the
end zone?

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Oh? Yeah, of course. I mean it was swept the nation, man,
we were all doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
That's a good point. That's a good point. We were
high school everywhere. It was everywhere.

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Mark Willard and eat from Salam with you and might
be a little bit kind of along the lines of
what you were saying earlier. Something good needs to happen. Well,
Josh Allen on a rolline.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Oh yeah, belieb.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
He's only thrown for forty yards in this game, and
he just threw for more than that on this throw.
And there's no way that he's able to get that
on this ball. You all got to go find the
highlight because he's falling out of the ball, three defenders
on him, and he's literally flying out of bounds and
with just arm threw the ball about fifty five yards

(01:28:23):
in the air to awaiting Khalil Shakir first and goal
for the Buffalo Bills. And now they're in for a
touchdown as well as let's see who.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Was that Johnson? Ty Johnson goes in for the score.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
So a little bit of a new game names. Yeah,
I know, don't get me started. Tried to be professional there.
I've got him in two leagues and I'm grinding and
we're doing Ty Johnson right out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
It's so stupid. I don't know why we even play
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
But anyway, it's now twenty one to nine extra point
is pending.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
And I have Josh from my quarterback and I'm like, bro,
come on, man, you're killing mess.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
You get all the way down there. The whole world
is like, Okay, we got Josh Allen, we got James Cook,
we got Dalton Kakad. What are you gonna do? And
they're like, uh, dial up the Ty Johnson play with
Ty Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
No, no, you heard it, tied. Look they have the
little yeah he's Ty Johnson. Wasn't on that little advertisement
they have, right, They we have players throwing the ball
up in the air. He wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I think teams should be fined when they score touchdowns
on first down for things that they meant to do
to people that aren't on anyone's fantasy team. That should
not be legal, and the like, I'm not gonna want
to take the points off the board, but outna know,
maybe lose a seventh round draft pick five years from now,

(01:29:57):
something like give the ball to your people for crying
out loud, we're all sitting around the TV watching Ty Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
What are we doing? Thank you for making an okay
event on that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Anyway, I'm gonna get you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
That's so stupid. Anyway, Hey, I had a question and
we can we can roll over the If you're the Raiders,
would you trade Davante Adams?

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
So the word, just to give everyone a little background,
or the word has come out that many a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Team called this off season.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Sure, and the Raiders hung up on all of them.
Non starter. But now, yes, you're two and two. It's
not like your season has cratered out of control. But
now Davante has a week to week injury and at
least once this year I saw his Netflix face and

(01:31:00):
if you watch the Duck, you know what that means.
That means DeVante's not happy and he's not making the decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
I get that, but I just wonder why the Raiders
made that a non starter. It would seem obvious to
the rest of us that if you're gonna keep putting
placeholders in the quarterback position, you're not really trying to win.

(01:31:31):
So why would your thirty plus year old star wide
receiver who could net you some great draft capital, why
would you not do that? It could end up leading
to a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
I agree, But if I'm Antonio Pierce, I'm like, I
don't want to give up the only weapon I have
if he's the only shot we have a winning anything.
So I get it from a coaching standpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
For sure, Let's get into this a little bit more
coming up next, and maybe even some teams that feel
like a landing spot for DeVante with you from salam
Mark Whether this is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast.
You'll see it posted right after we get off the air,
but we are nowhere near done yet. So there is
a problem with Advante Adams trade, at least just there's
a little bit of a problem. I'm sitting you're thinking
of landing spots, Like, if I'm ex team, I'm willing

(01:33:04):
to give up. What do you think it would take.
It's probably going to take at least a one or
two to get the Raiders' attention, especially since they've called
it a non starter. From this point, I can actually
think of four teams, but two of them are in
the Raiders division, and I gotta think that that's off
the table.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
He can't do that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
You're not trading DeVante Adams to the Kansas City Chiefs,
and you're not trading DeVante Adams to the Los Angeles Chargers.
The other problem is is the other two teams I
came up with are at least in their conference, which
normally big name player gets traded. You want to send

(01:33:47):
them to the other conference, but maybe in this case
that doesn't matter as much.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
What do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
I don't think it matters as much. But you can't
do it within a division. That's that's that's a that's
a no go.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Right, that's off the table, all right, because.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
He will come back and and in whatever hopes and
dreams you have, and you don't everyone to be on
that side.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Of that no, And especially now, I don't know how
quickly this will happen or if at all, but right
now you're two and two, you want to at least
act like you're still in this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Yeah, you're still in it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
You're still in it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
You're still in it in a major way. Though.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
The first team that comes to mind is one of
the teams that we're watching right now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
I know that the Buffalo Bills decided to go away
from the high priced receiver, but I firmly believe it
was that high priced receiver that they wanted to go
away from. Man, could you imagine you imagine you're you're
already three and oh you have a very very young
receiving corps who could use an elder statesman. And I

(01:35:00):
think that the Bills offense is really in a situation
where they could benefit from having someone a little bit
more traditional and with size who could run routes for them,
Because when I look at their receiving corpus, I'm like, okay,
interesting pieces like Khalil Shakir Kean Coleman is young. They

(01:35:23):
brought Curtis Samuel over right, there's Mac Collins. It's this
group all most of them very young and some of
them undersized. And you're a contender and you have a
great quarterback. If I'm the Bills, I do that in
a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
Oh God. Sometimes you got to protect the quarterback from himself.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Well there's that too. Yeah. You you noticed the last play,
did you?

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Good, Well that was just that play call was a
trick play that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Was to the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Yes, I'll conceived from the get go.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
For those who don't know, that's not no.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
So you actually did a direct snap to a wide
receiver who then toss the ball to Josh Allen in
a position to throw. And as Josh got ready to
sort of like cock the arm back and get ready
to throw it all the way deep, the defenders are
there knock the ball loose. He takes a huge hit

(01:36:24):
and it's a fumble and the Ravens pick it up.
So there goes that momentum hurt and he might be hurt.
But Davante Adams am I right, yes, not to making
Bills fans feel better.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
What do they give up?

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Whatever the Raiders want? Like, come on, man, you are
you not all in? Somebody has got to beat Patrick
Mahomes in the AFC.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
Yeah, Like I'll give him von Miller. I'll give him
our first round draft pick one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Yeah, I'll give him a one, give him a one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
I don't think like the Raiders probably don't want anything
other than draft picks. Again, if I'm the Raiders, if
I'm the Bills, I'm squarely focused on We are in
Josh Allen's window.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
We've got to win.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
And if I'm the Raiders, I'm squarely focused on one thing.
We have got to get a quarterback. Get your butt
into that first round as often as possible, and see
if you can get a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Yeah, it's imperative.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
You're irrelevant until you do.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Yeah, anything you're doing outside of that, you just wasting time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
You're sitting in a you're sitting in a division with
Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert, Andy Reid and Jim Harbaugh.
The Broncos have Eric Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Yeah, he is another long run for him, But the
Broncos have shot their shot right, They've got their rookie
first round QB. We'll see where that goes. But that's
why you and I talked so much about the Raiders
and the Cowboys this offseason. There are two teams that
to me felt like, and I love your phrase, wasting time,

(01:38:19):
Like the Raiders just took another year where they're like, yeah,
we'll do it some other time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
Well when.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
You know and you wonder how that lands with the
DeVante Adams and the Max Crosbys of the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
World, Well, we know how it lands with Devonte Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Sure it'd be furious, and he should be. So that's
my first team. I do have one other. I'd love
to run by you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
They spent the entire month of August being the central
figure and rumors surrounding Brandon Ayuk. They clearly want a
receiver and my god, George Pickens could use a mentor.
That's the other team that I if I. If I'm them,
I I I call the Raiders. If I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers,

(01:39:08):
I call the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Yeah, maybe you can get a first and Russell, Well,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
I don't know, do you want Russell?

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
If you're the Raiders, you don't have anybody else? Well,
would you?

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
I mean, I don't. I don't hate it. I don't
hate it. I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
I'm sure Russell wants to play. Now watch your point
watching Justin fields today, like it's got to be a
real conversation. Hey, bruh, you can't do everything right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
This is a good conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
This very you. You want to talk about self inflicted wounds.
It was Justin feels today, just bludgeoning himself, which in
turn is bludgeoning your team. Hey, bra you're not gonna

(01:40:16):
get away from every You can't make every play. And
he's been in the league too long to still be
making those type of mistakes to still not understand that

(01:40:37):
they lost by three, and he made some huge mistakes
in that game, huge that did not have to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
Well, you look at how they were three and oh,
we talked about this last week. You're three and oh,
but you hadn't scored boards, you hadn't scored many points.
And so you look at the Steelers and you go,
what's the sustainability of this? And when you do get
into a situation where you get down by double digits,

(01:41:13):
the whole franchise right now does not look comfortable throwing
the football Justin is drop back, take a look, great
arm talent. If it's not there, it's like you said,
we're immediately looking to just run and and and get
out of there and get out of dodge, and it
just leads to too much chaos.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
And so three and one is great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Three and one is great, But I do think that
you're gonna have weeks that that leave you scratching your
head and wondering. Russell Wilson's sitting right over there. Should
should we be thinking about this? What would you what
would you do? I'm I'm I'm a ride with Justin

(01:42:06):
Fields for now. Yeah, i mean look outside of some
bonehead moves and all of that, I mean, they were
still in that game.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
They were there. Yeah, So I'm I'm like, yo, look
we he's all right.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Yeah, it's just tantalizing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Okay, more on that in a second, because with Cleveland
and Cincinnati both being much worse than we thought they'd be,
there's something tantalizing sitting out there thinking about.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
A bigger picture for the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Okay, we can get more into that in a second,
but let's get Martin Weiss in here.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
With everything that is trending on a busy day, Martin.

Speaker 7 (01:42:53):
Yeah, one of the bigger picture problems for the Steelers
might be the Ravens right now of one hundred and
ninety two yards of rushing and we're not until the
fourth quarter against Buffalo. Right now, twenty eight to ten
to score between Baltimore and Buffalo. Like I said, just
under three minutes in the third quarter of Lamar Jackson
thirteen for seventeen, one hundred and fifty six through the air,
two touchdowns. Derek Henry thirteen carries, one hundred and forty

(01:43:16):
three yards, one touchdown, and eighty seven yard long run today,
third longest of his career for the Bills.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
I was a tyd. Johnson got the touchdown. But it's
been pretty quiet on the offensive side for them so far.

Speaker 7 (01:43:27):
Josh Allen, it's twell for twenty one hundred and twenty
four yards through the air. James Cook thirty nine yards
rushing on nine carries. Earlier today in the NFL, the
Chiefs beat the Chargers seventeen to ten. Kansas City remains undefeated.
Rashid Rice unfortunately carted off to the locker room expected
to hear that he has tourn his ACL waiting for

(01:43:47):
official reports to confirm. Raiders held on to defeat the
Browns twenty to sixteen. Nick Chubb expected to return for
Cleveland to practice this week. Forty nine Ers beat the
Patriots thirty to thirteen. Fred Warner had a pick six,
also had an ankle injury, waiting to see the severity
of that. Rock Purty connected with George Kittle for a
twelve yeard touchdown as well. Commanders crushed the Cardinals forty

(01:44:08):
two to fourteen and Cliff Kingsbury's return to the desert.
Jayden Daniels completed at least eighty five percent of his
passes and two consecutive games.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
He's the first quarterback to do that in NFL history.

Speaker 7 (01:44:19):
Texans come from behind and beat the Jaguars twenty four
to twenty. Jaguarszh to four on the year, Bengals avoiding
oh to four start beating the Panthers thirty four to
twenty four. Joe Burrow two touchdowns and an interception. Buccaneers
came out hot and beat the Eagles thirty three to sixteen.
Baker Mayfield two touchdowns, nearly three hundred and fifty yards
through the air. Broncos beat the Jets ten to nine.

(01:44:41):
Bo Nicks at one point in the first half of
this game had seven completions for minus seven yards. New
York still lost to missing a game winning field goal
at the end. Colts hold on despite Anthony Richardson leaving
this game in the first half with a hit pointer.
They hold on and beat the Steelers twenty seven to
twenty four. Bears defeat the Rams twenty four to eighteen.

(01:45:01):
Falcons walk off at fifty eight yard field goal, beat
the Saints twenty six to twenty four. Vikings stay undefeated,
beat the Packers thirty one to twenty nine. Minnesota with
only three second half points. In Major League Baseball, the
AL wildcard matchups are going to be Detroit, Fort Houston
and Kansas City versus Baltimore. Detroit's Turk schoobl won the
AO Pitching Triple Crown with eighteen wins, two point three

(01:45:24):
nine ERA, and two hundred and twenty eight strikeouts. Luis
Ariez is the first player in baseball history to win
three consecutive batting titles with three different teams. This one
was with the Padres. Mets and the Braves play a doubleheader.
If they split the doubleheader both tomorrow, rather if they
split this double header, both teams will clinch the playoff spot.
If either team gets swept, then the Diamondbacks will be

(01:45:46):
in again. Updating that Sunday night football game, Josh Allen
took a shot right before I started this update. He
was on the sideline. He's now back in the game.
Just completed to pass there to Dawson Knox. It's twenty
eight to ten, two minutes left in the third quarter.
Bills with the ball and driving, but trailing by eighteen.
He from and Mark back to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Okay, Martin, great stuff tonight, Thank you so much. Appreciate
that we are live in the ti iraq dot com studios.
He's not wrong, and you said it that you know
Josh might be hurt. I I, for the life of me,
have me name one player where I'm like, I cannot
believe that this guy hasn't missed more games in his career.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
This is him.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Oh, he is him.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
I Like, I don't know how the hell he plays
through all right, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
I don't know why he hasn't suffered more injuries. It's crazy,
it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
I mean, he built like a tank. Big Ben was
the same way. Yeah, Big Ben was the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
You couldn't get him down, and even when you did,
he just popped back up.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Yeah that's wild man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Yup the Bills in the red zone and we'll keep
you up to date here as they they go into
gold mode. Now down, Yes, they're down, down by eighteen
with a minute to go in the third quarter. Okay,
just to further put a ball on that conversation about

(01:47:26):
the Pittsburgh Steelers, I'm not saying I'd make a change
now by any stretch. Hell, they lost by three points
in there, three and one, and no matter what happens
in this football game, the Steelers will go to bed
tonight in first place.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
However, my thought is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Simply, if you are looking at the bigger picture of
the AFC, and and you are you're you're looking at
the Chiefs, and you're looking at the Bills, and you're
looking at the Ravens, man, I just like, at what
point in the season do you start thinking about December

(01:48:09):
and January and whether or not you can win games
the way the Steelers are trying to win them all,
which is twenty to seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Well, you just want to keep the games close, so
you lean on your defense, but you know you also
want to get you know, some spark plays, right, you
don't want to depend on spark plays, but you want

(01:48:41):
to get spark plays. But the focus is on your defense.
Keep us in it, keep it close. Sure and offensively,
you can't hurt the defense, which is turning the ball
over or you know, short fields, things like that, like

(01:49:04):
you can't do. We can't afford that. So you know,
everybody has a role to play. Just do your job.
We're gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Well, I mean to take the definition that you just had.
Justin had two fumbles today.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
It can't do it. Justin lost one of those fumbles.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Justin lost one of those fumbles trying to buy extra
time when his team was in It was going to
be a long one, but it was in field goal
range on a third down and he went running around
on the other side of the field and around midfield,
actually lost his footing and just dropped the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Nobody even hit.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
Him, like I said, you're doing too much.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
And how many points did they lose by?

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Three points?

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
There you go, So you know what you're saying. I
think falls in line to this conversation as well. Russell
Wilson has been his own journey in and of itself
the last couple of years. I totally get that. I
just wonder if this conversation, we're not there yet, but
if this conversation doesn't come sooner than it would under

(01:50:21):
other circumstances, because I do think if the Steelers are
going to have a great year, they're going to have
to outscore some people at some point. And I do
wonder if Russ doesn't get the traditional offensive stars involved
a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Yeah, but is weird, man, because you gotta you gotta spark. Yeah,
Justin has come in. He's given you guys, you're you're
three and one after the first quarter. No one expected
that clean up the mistakes, reiterate, Hey, man, if it's

(01:51:07):
not there, it's not that You gotta remember they had
a botched the center, snapped the ball early, slapped, smacked
Justin in the face, he fell on the ball. You
lose nine yards right there. There are things you can
clean up to keep you in these games. What you
can't do is put yourself in long yarded situations and

(01:51:29):
turn the ball over. That's that's simple. Just manage the game.
Just manage the game, and if you can, I mean
we've seen him do it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Yep. Yeah, I'm not out on the guy by any stretch.
And go a little back and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Forth and then he'll get you miss phield goal, good lord.
And then he'll give you a situation where you know
he will extend to play with his feet. He will
keep a drive going like you just need those. Just
keep these drives going.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
You heard it from just reference it. Tyler bass from
forty eight yards wide left.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
That was to cut it to two scores. It remains
three scores.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
Early fourth quarter, Ravens lead the Bills twenty eight to ten,
and we're back to put a bow on our time
coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
I guess you can't get mad.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
At the Bills for giving it to ty Johnson if
the Ravens are going to give it to their offensive
lineman Ricard. I know it wasn't on purpose, but this way,
fantasy owners of both running backs tonight can be furious.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
No, not with Dereck Henry.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
No, Derek has gone off, but he was about to
get another one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
I mean it looked like he's about to get about
to go in and he just frumbled to the edge.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
Get rich, get a can I get a screen pass
to James Cook for seven and a touchdown?

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
Well, you got eleven minutes of probably the Bills getting
to throw the ball wherever the hell they want because
the Ravens are going to put this thing into cruise
control thirty five to ten. I wish we had I
wish we had spent a few minutes on this before
the game started, so I could have told everybody that

(01:53:22):
this was a empty your bank account on the Ravens
minus two and a half kind.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
Of a night, did you?

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
I did well. I did not empty my bank account.
I don't bet. I bet what was a healthy amount
for me? How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Yeah? That's good. Is that good? That's good? Yeah, that's good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
So its not anything to write home about, but it's
about it's about all I do. Yeah. I put as
much on it as I ever put on a game.
If that If that helps?

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
Oh all right, yeah big time?

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Well uh oh, well, I did I told you?

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
This is a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
There's no way that spread was reflective of sort of
and what else would it be. But like the narratives
that get built out of the first three weeks of
the season, on these two teams. The Ravens are carrying
this label of one and two, very similar to the
forty nine ers today. This one and two label, I

(01:54:28):
don't think it like it's real. They were, they lost
those games, but I don't think that that's an accurate
snapshot of who those teams are, and the Ravens and
forty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
Ers, both of them.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Both of them I think suffered from the same thing,
which was the Ravens did it in Week two, the
Niners did it in Week.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Three, where you dominated a game.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
Against a lesser opponent for the entire game, then you
got to the fourth quarter, things got complete letely whack adoodle.
You started making stupid mistakes, snowball starts running downhill. This
is the Ravens against the Raiders, this is the Niners
against the Rams. And you lose a football game that

(01:55:13):
you had no business losing, and otherwise you'd be two
and one and people would be like, Okay, nice start, see.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
If they can get to three and one today.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Because for both teams, I think their other loss was
much more like stomachable. You know, the Ravens opening night
in Kansas City and the Niners with a six point
loss in Minnesota, which does not look embarrassing anymore at all.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Yeah. Yeah, for those who thought teams like the Ravens
and the Niners were indicative of their record quality quality
number one, beyond talented, number two, well coached. And on

(01:56:06):
the flip side of that coin is there's a four
and OH team that probably should be one and three
based on how they've played.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Well, that's an interesting comn.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
It's the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Let's look at them because obviously there's only two foreign
OH teams. So you feel like the Chiefs were outplayed
by Cincinnati?

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Yeah? Were they outplayed by Atlanta last week? Close game?

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
No, they should have lost that game, That's what I'm saying. Like,
which which the passion interference in the end zone, sure is,
that's a crazy, blown call, But what happened was the
refs tried to come back and give them two crazy
calls to make up for that next drive that they
got the ball. But I mean that's for furs and

(01:57:00):
goal on the one yard line. That was nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
Not to mention the first game of the year that
was egregious. So they haven't played up to the standards.
You would look at a four and OH team and
be like, oh, Okay, yeah, so yeah, they could be
one of three right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
They could be, but then again, you know if if
of the fifth, we don't be right.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
That's that's what That's what championship level teams do, right.
They went ugly, they find a way, they do all
of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
But you're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
I mean, they haven't gotten to thirty points yet. Today,
they didn't even get to twenty. Their defense is.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
Good, like it saved them the majority of all of
last season.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
But I'm also with you, like we could sit here
all day and be like, the receivers are overpaid at
a certain point, Kelsey getting older, Rashi Rice is out, Hollywood,
Brown's not coming, Isaiah Pacheco is on IR.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
I mean the lack of weaponry.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
I would be shocked if this doesn't bite them somewhat
in the next month and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
That the only that, like I said, I mentioned this
a little earlier tonight, the reason it doesn't bite them
is because they don't. They don't beat themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
They don't they are.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
I mean the fact that they can draw penalties on
other teams and and and not, like they had five
penalties to day four of them by one player and
it was only for forty yards or something like that.
So they are not a team. They're so well coached

(01:58:57):
they're not going to beat themselves, which is saying a lot,
because when things aren't going well for you, if you
can hold on and not beat yourselves, you can find
yourself in these games for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
That's why they call it the Witching Hour between twelve
fifteen Pacific time and one fifteen Pacific time, because one
way in another, most of these games come down to one.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Score, one way or another.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
Great talking to you tonight, buddy, as always, okay for
Ephram Salam, I'm Mark Willard playing and spend your coming
up next