Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Talk When To Call It A Career, Bil Belichick's Comeback, And Much More!!

Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam discuss some older superstar athletes that may in fact be staying too long in their careers. Mark and Ephraim also talk shop on the Bill Belichick comeback tour that is set up in 2025. Plus, the guys talk more about Wide Receivers getting overpaid, Netflix's Receivers show, Olympic Gold aspirations, and much more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm pretty sure nobody, and I mean nobody on the
entire earth has gone through life and not said the
phrase life ain't fair, because it's not, and we know that,
and I don't think it's supposed to be. But I'll
tell you what, Aphram, one of the most unfair things
about life is. I do think if you ask for

(00:26):
the view of a person, like the actual like what
is the right view of that person, the person themselves
has the worst view, Like our view of ourselves has
got to be one of the hardest things in life.
And I find it incredibly relevant today and specifically today,

(00:48):
because my gosh, when is the time? When's the right
time to just not do it anymore? When are you
not good enough anymore? When are you not the right
choice anymore? When are you not the person that the
world will follow anymore? When is it time to say
I'm too old to be doing what I'm doing?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I mean, of course I'm talking about Tiger Woods.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well, who did you who did you.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Think I was? I was talking about it from.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
The Big bugs, because you can bring in a show
better than anybody I've ever worked with.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
I tell you, I mean you, my friend, are gold?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Hi, buddy, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:33):
I'm good, brother. How you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm good? You know, what's your story? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
What's what's like that whole idea of an athlete or
I don't know how about a politician, but but that
idea of an athlete when it's time to step away,
listening to your own voice, other voices, what was your
story at the end of your career.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I was in Detroit in my year twelve, and that's
the first time I didn't play, and it wasn't because.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Of my ability, and it made.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Me start looking at the league differently and the amount
of energy and time that went into preparing for the season,
and then the work that goes in during the season.
There was no payoff after starting ten straight years and

(02:38):
consistently playing for eleven years, year twelve for me was
no longer about my ability, and that was I'm always
talking about Detroit.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
That was my twelfth year.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Was in Detroit, and you know, I was led to
believe that I could compete and then end up playing
if I outperformed, which I did because I could still play.
And up upstairs, not even the coaches, I mean, the
coaches were perplexed. Jim Schwartz and Scott Lenihan, my old

(03:15):
line coach, everybody, they were like, what's happening right now?
But they had invested a lot of money in the
year before and the kid planned the right tackle, and
they were like, look, it was just gonna go. It's
what it's gonna be, right, whether you're you know, we
know you're better than them. I mean I was told, hey,
either come push him or push him out the way,

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and so that's what I did, and it didn't matter.
And so I started to realize, oh, this is a
different landscape. You gotta remember, seventh round draft pick signing
bonus nineteen thousand dollars, got an opportunity to compete for
a starting job with a five year, a high price

(03:59):
free agent they brought in. That's how I started in
the league. So that was my mindset. My mindset was, oh,
the playing field will be level, and I'll have an
opportunity to compete, and if you can still compete at
a high level better than the person you're competing against,

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then you get the job.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Well when that when it.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Changed, it made me realize, hey, look now I'm just
a seventh round draft pick. No matter what I've done
in my career. So now they're not going to invest
time in me because I'm not going to be here
for five, six seven years. They paid him money to
be here for at least five years, so they aren't

(04:46):
willing to sacrifice one of those years by putting the
best product on the field. And I get that. I
understand that as a business man, but I couldn't understand
it as a player because I got my start as
someone who competed and won the job fair and square.

(05:10):
And so that's when I knew, do I really want
to commit this level of time and energy for practice? Look,
football is hard, the game is easy. The game is
the payoff. So if you're just practicing. And I told

(05:32):
the story about how me and one of my veteran
linemen were on scout team, John Jensen, I believe he
was in year ten, I was in the year. He
was in year eleven and I was in year twelve,
and both of us were better offensive lineman than the

(05:57):
tackle at the time, and we turned our Tuesday Thursdays
into our football games. And I just I didn't have it.
I didn't have it in me to go ahead and
bounce around for three four more years doing that. I
could have been a backup because I could have been
a swing tackle. I could play right and left tackle,
which is beyond valuable in the league. I mean, that's

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it's real valuable. But I could have done that for
two three more years. I could have got to year fifteen.
It just wasn't in me. I did not want to
be away from life and family and we wanted to
start a family. And you know it, just without the
payoff of playing on Sundays. I'm good. You can go
ahead and have it, Homie. Yeah, yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Gosh, it's interesting to hear you tell those stories. It's
almost like there's politics in sports.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Why you know what?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Wild?

Speaker 5 (06:48):
You know what? How about that?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Keep your politics out of sports? All right? Anyway, I
don't go down that road.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
But but but yes, that that I find all of that,
like what you just detailed for every person. That's really
hard because so often, and you're seeing it all over
our sports and our world. Right now, you're seeing these
two things kind of fight with one another, which is

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what you want to do and what you should do,
what you feel like your mind can still do or
what your body can still do. And like making those
what are considered mature decisions. I mean, they can't be easy,
and I've always defaulted to this.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know how you feel about this.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I feel really bad about myself when I'm watching sports
on television and sort of barking at somebody, dude, you're done.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Stop playing. Well, hold on a second, Like.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Right, I mean somebody hired this person to play, Somebody
is paying this person. I'm supposed to tell this person
not to take the paycheck that's being offered to them.
Like We've had that conversation a bunch when it comes
to live golf, Like I'm supposed to tell you not
to take money that's being offered to you.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
That just feels out of my place.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
So if we want to just use Tiger Woods as
the example, if we want to use the years that
are coming soon for Lebron and Steph, they're still playing
at a very high level. We did this for a
year or two with Tom Brady before he won another
Super Bowl. We did it to the Warriors before they
won another championship. That's another thing that keeps in my mind,

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like sometimes we're wrong.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Now, I know it looked a little bit different, but
so what So I don't know's that's always my default.
I never tell people, hey, it's it's time to step
away at the same time, like, what's your favorite Michael
Jordan Washington Wizard's memory.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
He scored fifty five at the Garden. He did a
wizard he did. I don't even remember that, I think,
so I may have made it up. I don't think
that made it up.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, So I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
How do you answer that? What's the right time to
step away? The right time to step away for greatness? Right,
So there's a different categories, different categories, and every athlete
to understand and and and tell you that there are
different categories when it comes to making decisions. Greatness is
hard to walk away from. Now, when you talk about Jordan,

(09:43):
we're talking about all time great. Jordan right now probably
thinks he can come in the league today at his
age and score twenty a game, like his mentality. Tom
Brady right now, even though he's just retired, probably thinks
he can take any team to the playoffs, right and

(10:06):
have and once you get there, you got a shot
to win it all.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, he is better than half about half.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right, He's definitely not the worst QB in the league
if he were still playing.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
So what happens with greatness, especially when injury doesn't issue
to usher you out of your prime? Right, Peyton Manning
the next surgeries and all that he couldn't he was
like throwing a wiffle ball in the windstore, right, Like
it just wasn't there. The velocity, the accuracy he had
before injury, it wasn't there. And so when you see

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players at the top, Michael Strahan did it, won the
Super Bowl? Walked off? Could he have played three four
more years? Absolutely? Could he been effective?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Sure? But why right?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Look at John Elway, John Alway back to back and
he was like, I'm tapping out. Could he have mudded along,
you know, two three more years? Yeah, of course, But
once you get to a certain point in terms of greatness,
and he's I'm talking football players and Jordan and basketball.
We saw Kobe at the end of his career just
too much, too much to overcome, too much to get
himself ready to play, uh physically. But when you look

(11:15):
at someone like Lebron James, the gifts, the physical gifts
that he has, I mean he didn't miss a game
from from a serious injury for the first I don't
know what, seventeen years of his career forever.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Yeah, you know, right, iron man.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
But when you still train and you keep yourself fit
and fed like he does, and his frame can hold
all of you know everything he's doing, I mean nothing
about what Lebron did this past season. Are he's doing
on Team USA says, oh this is his last year. Oh,

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he's coming to an.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
End totally, totally.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
And now here's another reason why it's unfair for fans
to yell or Colin Montgomery, if you know that story,
who essentially said all week Tigers should not be playing
in these major championships anymore.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Here's why I think it's always unfair.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm gonna give you two examples coming up when the
opposite happened and fans and media didn't like that either.
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Speaker 2 (14:19):
Okay, we're rolling tyrag dot com studios. That is he
from Salama, Mark Willard, And you know what's really funny.
People will get all into that, like step down, you're done.
We don't want to see Willie Mays with the Mets,
Jordan with the Wizards, we don't want to see that.
But what happens when a guy leaves one second too soon?

(14:42):
You get mad at that guy too, Barry Sanders Andrew
Luck and I know that some are going to respond
on the Luck thing in particular and be like, come on, man, timing.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You went and did that in the preseason. I get it.
It's a fair response.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
However, I'd argue for a lot of people this whole
like if they leave a minute too soon, the argument,
Oh you're leaving your team high and dry, you got
something left in the tank.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
You're not built for this.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
How exactly is someone supposed to know while you're in it,
what the exact right time to do it is.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's your you know, it's your inner it's the inner dialogue.
It's the inner dialogue. It's the for Andrew look, in particular,
he just couldn't take the injuries anymore, the beating, Oh
my god. And what people don't realize is he was
about to be on the shelf again after coming off

(15:57):
missing the year. He was about to go back on
the shelf with something that they missdiing a lower leg
injury that they misdiagnosed, which turned into something that was
gonna take some time to and he just couldn't do
mentally coming and dealing with injury, for someone who plays,

(16:19):
dealing with injury at that level and coming back and
having it happen again emotionally, mentally, it it does a
number on you, man, And so you gotta listen to
your inner self. Your inner self is like, I don't
if you don't love it. Get out. There used to

(16:41):
be a time where guys when I came into the league,
most guys were lifers. Right as long as they paying me,
I'm gonna be here. They're gonna have to carry me
out of here. That was a sentiment. Some of those
very same guys can't walk today, mm hmm, can't sleep, uh,

(17:05):
can't uh you know, function, can't dress themselves. And so
that notion started to change when younger guys, what's my guy? Uh?
Patrick Willis, Yes, he was like one of the best

(17:27):
linebacker in football. Was like, I'm cool. Was it like
seven year seven or something like that. He was just like,
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I'll look it up.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
But his his teammate, the second or third best linebacker
in the league, Bowman I think it was his name,
was like, I'm sure this is these are all pro players,
these are all pro guys.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
He was like, played eight years and just six six
games in the eighth yield.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
He's like, I'm good, yeah, and Bowman was he would
three years. He was like, no, I'm good, I'm gonna
go do Something'm gonna be a doctor or whatever it is.
He decided to go do and it was crazy to everybody.
Everybody's oh my god, this is it's not for everybody.

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Being a professional athlete is one of the toughest things
you can do on the planet Earth. So just think
about it like this. Less than zero point one percent
of the population could be a professional athlete. Seven and
a half billion people. Less than zero point one percent
of people can be a professional athlete. Even less than
that can last more than five years. Even less than

(18:44):
that can go double digits in the sport. So you
want to talk about being rare and then you're climbing
up into air like I'm in the eight percent, the
eight percentile of all NFL players to play more than
ten years. Eight percent of the small number that make

(19:04):
it have played double digital. More So, it it the
mental ford to just imagine working in at and t
for you know, twenty years, twenty five years, Right, you
move your way on up. Look, you can do you

(19:25):
can sustain that. But physically and mentally the tohll sports
take on you. It's un it's unrelenting. And so watching
Tiger struggle, we get it. And it's not age for Tiger.

(19:46):
It's the things that have happened off the accidents. Correct,
correct that those are the things when your body turns off.
Not because of the sports, you know, the back and
all of that. We get it for the torque and
and all of the things that went into to him
being the best golfer in the world for two decades,
but the accidents in all of those things, it's over.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
You can't get that back is not coming back.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
But he can go.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Play golf on his like he can go. He can
play golf forever.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
He can't compete at that level, but you can go
play golf.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Like.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
The funny thing is, and I mean two things. One,
you brought up a slew of forty nine or linebackers there,
and the best example of them all is one that
I bet most of our audience doesn't remember and hasn't
heard of. Ten years ago, there was a kid by
the name of Chris Borland, and he was a rookie

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with the forty nine ers, also a linebacker, and he
had a real nice fourteen game stretch. He started eight
of the games played in fourteen and came in fourth
for ap Defensive Rookie of the Year. And then the
year ended and he went, this is not for me.

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For me, I'm gone, And that was that I was
the end of Chris Borland's career. He played one year,
almost almost one Rookie of the Year left.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
If you're I'm telling you, especially football, basketball is different.
Especially football, if you don't love it, it is.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Hard to play. Man. It takes so much out of you.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
It the physicality, especially at linebacker, offensive line, defensive line.
We're quarterback to play forever, right, But once you start it,
people don't realize. Our practices are like games in terms
of contact. So my practice, I'm having four games a

(22:02):
week in terms of the physicality of what it takes
to get ready to play every week. You know, some
coaches will take the pads off and right they'll be like, hey,
we're gonna we're gonna stop it. You know, we're not
gonna hit and all it. But some coaches didn't. When
we all came in the league, it wouldn't know. Hey man,
it was keep them shoulder pads on six weeks, double days,

(22:26):
two practices a day. That's just what it was. Full pads.
So my first four or five years in the league,
that's what it was. When I got to Denver, they
were like, oh no, we don't even practice and shoulder
pads on Fridays.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Man, I was like, wait what.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
And then like when we were winning and won a
four game win streak and they were like hat day,
hat day. I'm like, what does hat day mean? That
means on Monday and Thursday, Wednesday and Thursday fight all
week we were in hats.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
I said, what.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Those are the types of things that players of the
coaches started doing when the prolonged guys keep him fresh,
Scott McVeigh, I mean, Sean McVay, I was just no,
no training camp practice, right.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I don't think Aaron Donald practiced the last nine of
why why great question.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Look, some people, when you say Aaron Donald and you
talk about one of the greats of the greats, some
people don't need practice.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Right.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
We got a guy on our team who doesn't need practice.
You can just show up, right, He not in there
practicing what to say or are looking up miscellaneous stats.
He shows up and he plays. And that's one Steven
big play the sager, thank.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
You very much, very kind and not quite true.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
We played. That's amazing.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
We will get to the baseball at a moment, but
I must say what it's going on at Dodger Stadium
right now.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
It's amazing.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
Show Halo Tani has just launched a home run to
right field. It looked like it went to the parking
lot and went over all of the seats in the pavilion,
which is a very rare thing. People like Willie Stargel
are some of the rare people that have done that
to right field at Dodger State.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
One hundred and seventy three feet.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
He had hit one at Colorado granted thin air at
four to seventy six this year, and that record for
the longest homer of the baseball season got broken today.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
More on that a moment.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
The Dodgers have hit five home runs in five innings
and they're leading Boston sixt to two, and all five
of the long balls are against the starting pitcher for
the Red Sox, Cutter Crawford, who apparently if he has
a cutter, it's not working today. Tay Oscar Hernandez, the
home run derby chant for La hit his twentieth of
the season. Needless to say, there's been a few home

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runs in the season for show Hey Otani. Freddy Freeman
had hit his sixteenth of the year. The Otani home
run is his thirtieth of the season. He has seventy RBIs.
When you were talking to start this hour about some athletes,
should they call it quits? I knew you weren't talking
about Aaron Judge because he had a three run homer

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today and is batting three to zho nine. Yes, the
Yankees lost at home six to four to Tampa Bay.
But Judge, as DH today had two hits in a walk.
The three RBIs thirty five home runs for him. Judge
has eighty nine RBIs. We have a chance that he's
going to be close to one hundred RBIs by the

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end of July. It's July twenty first right now, Seattle
beat Houston six to four. Outfielder Julia Rodriguez left today's
game with a foot injury after a collision with the
outfield wall. The Mariners are back into a tie for
first in the Al West with Houston. Angels came back
to beat Oakland eight to five. San Francisco was a
three to two winner at Colorado. Jorge Solaire of the

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Giants hit the longest home run this season. I mentioned
Otani had hit one at Colorado at four to seventy six.
This one estimated to go four hundred and seventy eight
feet Saint Louis Is six to two winner. Atlanta Braves
second baseman Ozzi Alby's broke his wrist. He could be
out two months after a collision at second base. Braves
placed All Star pitcher Max Freed on the injured list

(26:10):
with nerve inflammation in his forearm. Milwaukee won its third
straight game eight seven at Minnesota. Washington cent Cincinnati to
a fourth straight loss five to two. Pittsburgh got shut
out at home by Philadelphia six nothing. That ends the
Pirates six game winning streak. The White Sox have lost
seven in a row. Kansas City beat him four to one.
The White Sox record twenty seven and seventy four. Kyle

(26:34):
Larson took NASCAR's Brickyard four hundred, his fourth victory this year.
Xander Schaffley won the Open Championship by two strokes after
a final round sixty five in Scotland at Royal Truon
So A man from San Diego State University, takes this major.
Born in San Diego, and he finished top ten in
all four majors this year. By the way, and Shaffley

(26:54):
is the defending Olympic gold medalist in men's golf. Speaking
of the Olympics, the Summer Games opening ceremony is this
Friday in Paris. Some events begin on Wednesday, including soccer
and rugby. The opener for US women's soccer is Thursday
against Zambia. Closing ceremony in Paris will be Sunday, August eleventh.
NASCAR is going to be off for the next couple

(27:16):
of weeks. Of course, WNBA is off for about a
month now. There will be a tune up game against
Germany for the US Olympic women's basketball team on FS
one Tuesday, three pm Eastern Time. The US men tomorrow
afternoon on Fox TV played Germany, the last of their
tune up games that'll be in London. The American's Olympic

(27:37):
Tournament and men's hoops starts a week from today against Serbia. Now,
Kevin Durant finally practiced with Team USA on Friday. He's
been out for about two weeks with a straying cafe.
He's missed all four exhibitions. For what it's worth, the
US four to ohero in those exhibitions, But yesterday it
took a late layup from Lebron James to beat South
Sudan one oh one, one hundred back to you.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
How about that Oho Tani almost hits one out of
Dodger Stadium as the second longest homer of.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
The day in Major League Baseball? What on Earth?

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Wowsers?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, course field doesn't count, though, I like, of course, Well,
we had a guy go into the Hall of Fame today,
played his whole career with the Rockies, right, Todd Helton.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
His career batting average three sixteen. If you break it down,
and I did, it's of course, to eighty seven on
the road. Three forty five in Colorado was his career
batting average.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I mean, at least two eighty seven is that's good? Yeah,
that's good. It's it's not Hall of Fame, but it's good.

Speaker 8 (28:39):
Three forty five would be classified as silly.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
I think, ridiculous, ridiculous, Just just like the stadium and
everything that happens when your team visits there.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Those all are qualified for that work.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (28:54):
Making the hitdeo nomo no hitter there one day just
more amazing as the decades.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Golutely absurd, absolutely absurd. And I actually watched that game
between the Giants and Rockies today and the Giants rookie
pitcher struck out twelve because his curveball was darting all
over the place, Like, how's that even possible? That was
the whole thing, Like, you couldn't throw a curveball there,
and this thing was going twelve to six.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
It was crazy, wasn't it.

Speaker 8 (29:21):
Darryl Kyle?

Speaker 9 (29:22):
They signed with all this free agent money and it's
in Colorado and he couldn't throw a curveball.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
They're like, this guy's got a great curveball, we should
sign him. And then did you know.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Whoops?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
All right, great, Steff, Steve, thank you very much. Tie
rack dot com Studios, Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam. Yeah,
we're sitting here talking about the idea of when's the
right time to give it up? And and what about
those who have given it up but then they haven't
really given it up, like they want to come back.

(29:57):
How would you apply the conversation? We just had to
Bill Belichick, who I saw a report is all in
on coaching, not this year but next.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Is he even hirable?

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah he's hirable, cod Yeah he is. He is.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
And and yes, of course his legacy is linked to
Tom Brady. But the reality of it is they're you know,
just like quarterbacks, right, there are some coaches out there.
Uh you know that that coaching pool is real shallow,

(30:34):
and that's why the turnover is so great every year.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Think about it like this.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
On Black Monday is what they call the Monday after
the regular season NFL team, What is the average of
firings that happened that week or prior to that week?
Just on average every year? Now you mean to tell
me it? Somebody get fired every year. Just imagine. I
don't know if we've had a year where no one
got fired.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Probably not.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
So when you think about it like that, yeah, would
you want to bring a Hall of Fame coach in,
especially if you had a quarterback, right, like if you
had a Justin Herbert or you know, a quarterback that
had what it took. Why wouldn't you want to bring
in one of the greatest coaches to ever coach at

(31:21):
that level?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Okay, Devil's advocate.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I guys, yep, because because this way doesn't work with players.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Anymore, right, right? I get that, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know what I mean, And I actually think even
if it did, even if it did work, I'd argue
that the way it worked last time was because something
got built from the ground up. There was a little
bit of luck involved in Tom Brady even being discovered

(31:51):
because of the Drew Bledsoe injury.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
And then once it.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Builds, it's just a parade of players joining an established
win and having no choice but to fit in. Better
do it this way, the Patriot way. You're gonna go
build that again somewhere.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
No, you don't have to build that again.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
But you know, it is a great coach's job to
understand his team right now. I think what happened with
him in New England was a humbling situation. I think
it was very humbling for him because, yeah, of course

(32:35):
he thought it was him. Of course he thought he
was the main catalyst in the six championships. How could
you not, How could you have that much success and
not believe in yourself to that level? Sure, and so

(32:57):
being humbled puts things in real perspective. Now, what you
do is you don't stay on the same path. If
you get another chance, what you do is you make
adjustments and then you recraft the narrative. And he's smart
enough to do that, and it starts with bringing in

(33:21):
young coaches that can relate to young players, right, who
can sell your way without the gruff.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Right.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Just watching him at the Tom Brady Roast made me
like him more.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, he's different than his persona.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
And and that's what I believe, is he when people
get to see that, you can really like watching that rose,
I was like, okay, you know what I mean, Like,
I can have a root beer with him, just pick
his brain, right, I can sit down and have a
muggle root beer with him.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, he might have something different, but yeah, yeah, you know,
you think what you want.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
I don't drink, so I'm gonna get I'm gonna get
a Bars Barks has bite. I'm gonna get a Barks
root beer. We're gonna see. We can sit down and
chop it up and chop it up. But that you
got to see a side of him that no one
had got a chance to see, no doubt no. And
I think his knowledge, his vast knowledge, his ability to
make end game adjustments some of the best ever. I

(34:32):
think that's invaluable to some of these teams, especially.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
If you have a real quarterback. Invaluable.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I'm gonna simplify the game to you for you and
all you got to do is go out there and perform.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Okay, Mark Willardy from Salam Coming up next. Are there
two athletes that we think are still at the height
of their powers, but actually they're not and and and
we should be having this.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Conversation maybe already.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
We'll get to that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
Okay, Tyrack dot com studios. Mark worth Any from Salam
Fox Sports Radio, we get a little deeper into some
NFL stuff coming up in the next couple hours. I
wanted to ask you this though, and this is gonna
be Devil's advocate again now, because you brought up one

(35:36):
of these names earlier this hour, and you're not wrong.
And that is is that Lebron James Gifts are so
great that they defy everything. They defy logic, they defy time,
they defy history, all of those things to a lesser degree.

(35:56):
Right now, it feels like they're linked because they're playing
together with Team USA, because they've been the two ratings
drivers in the NBA for the last decade, But Steph Curry,
I feel like to a lesser degree because quite frankly,
he's just he's not as old, he's not as old,
and obviously physically is a completely different player. Lebron can

(36:17):
just overwhelm people on a basketball court physically.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
And he's just smarter than most players.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, they're obviously both so brilliant, and they've obviously both
passed thirty five. And so my question is when we
look at these two we go I still see the
same thing. They look the same on the court, they
both go out there and average their twenty six a night.

(36:46):
They largely look the same. What doesn't look the same
is the standings and the number of wins. I know
Lebron took his team through a couple of playoff series
last year, not this one that just passed, but the
year before, a year plus ago. I get that, but

(37:13):
he also he had to do it now twice in
a row through the play in tournament. The Warriors were
a sixth seed that just scratched out a seven game
series last year. This year playing tournament team unceremoniously kicked
in the face in one game Goodbye, Go Home, and

(37:33):
both of them are largely doing it healthy from their
teammates are healthy, they're healthy.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Well, then that the Lakers weren't healthy. Well, Anthony Davis
was healthy, but the Lakers were not healthy, I think.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, so at the end of the year, I can
point to this guy, that guy, the cores were healthy.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Or that again.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
The stars, yes, but as we know, it takes more
than stars to win in today's NBA.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Okay, but like, what are you just making like?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I mean, are we talking about the Hatchi Morris and
the Vanderbilts of the world, and that means they would
have won the title?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I mean, Cam Redditch Vanderbilt show, Like, those are intricate parts.
Those are three and D guys. That's what you. You
can't win without three and D guys.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Right, And they also wouldn't have won with them. That's
just me.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
But it's not like a real right now.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, now, look, I mean the Warriors are are They're
in the exact same spot, and I think it's fair
to ask these questions. And again, nobody's asking these guys
to walk away. But I do think that sometimes I
wonder if our view of them and our expectations should
get adjusted.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
They're not the same players.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Anymore, of course they're not. But what happens is what
Golden State did was absolutely right, right, Golden That's what
the offseason is for, that's what free agency is for.
That's you're supposed to maximize what's left in these tremendous stars.
And that's what Golden State Lakers not so much, but

(39:14):
that's what the Golden State Warriors did. They're bringing in pieces.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Right.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Tragically, had to let Clay go. He just wasn't doing
it anymore. Hopefully Draymond can keep it together. But what
they decided to do is we're going to bring in
some real guys who can play, who can play, right,
got rid of the Chris Paul's that that never thought
that was gonna work anyway, Right, So they're they're building

(39:45):
out the blueprint to help maximize Steph right because quiet
as kept, Steph can play longer than Lebron, because he's
always gonna be able to shoot, he's always gonna be
able to handle. They're not asking him to guard anybody,
so that game right there, in itself, he can go.

(40:08):
He can continue to go as long as he's shooting.
He can shoot as long as he has that handle.
He has the handle like he is built to play longer.
So look, the sun is not setting on Golden State.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I mean, you're not wrong, You're like that. Everybody's gonna
have to pull a rabbit out of the hat. Now
you're gonna have to pull a rabbit out of the hat.
And I can't wait to see it. I hope you're right.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
All right?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Coming up next, we got to talk about the wide
receiver position.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
In the NFL.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
On we go, just ending careers right and left, Tiger
and Lebron and Steph and By and all in one day.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Amazing.

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(41:25):
a tongue in cheek sort of answer. But if I
ask you what's the most important position in football, what's
your answer?

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Quarterback?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Okay, see I just lost money. Yeah, well that's the
correct answer. I thought for sure you were going to
say left tackle, though.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
No, no, no, no, no, that's a second okay, most important seconds.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Okay, now keep going. If that's second, what's third? Ed rusher,
edge washer? That's what I thought you'd say. What's fourth?

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Fourth is cornerbacks.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
That's exactly what I thought you'd say. This is commensurate
with what coaches have told me for years. You guys
all give the same list. What's fifth?

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Uh? Fifth? In my bigon, well, it'd be linebackers.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Linebackers, all right? What's sixth? All right? What's seventh?

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Receivers?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Okay? Why are they being paid so much? Aphram? What
are we.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Doing fantasy football?

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Is? Man?

Speaker 5 (42:28):
What are we doing fantasy?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
No, for real?

Speaker 5 (42:32):
To here?

Speaker 3 (42:33):
What's wild?

Speaker 2 (42:34):
You know what's wild is is because fantasy football, and
because they are they're flashy and interesting. They went and
got themselves their own documentary, Aphram. Although my favorite part
of the documentary Receivers is that they didn't pick five receivers.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
They picked four receivers and.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
A tight end with hair, okay, and a personality, so
I get it. But they went and got themselves a
documentary Second Quarterbacks. That was the first documentary, second documentary,
wide receivers and it's as if these documentaries are coming
out in order of highest salaries in the NFL. But

(43:21):
what is talked into this documentary? And I don't know
if you're watching it. Are you watching it at all?
Have you've seen some.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
From when you talked about it last week? I put
it on doing our show, so on our breaks, I'm watching.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
It, okay? And yeah, how many episodes in are you?

Speaker 5 (43:36):
I'm episode eight?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh wow, you're now you're you flew right by me? Okay,
all right, so you're watching it. There's all kinds of
underlying themes, and one of them is the tremendous story
that's unfolding about the Las Vegas Raiders franchise. Yes, and

(43:59):
everyone watching it with these very simplistic guys, which is one, ooh,
it's salacious, it's Vegas and it's the Raiders and Davante
is outspoken. And then the second part is Jimmy Garoppolo
has had a truck drive over him in this documentary,
like that's the end of Jimmy. I know he's now

(44:19):
back up in LA But my god, watched this documentary
and you wouldn't hire this guy to carry the quarterback's
towels after watching this documentary. So but tucked into all
of that, I think from is a message. And the
message is the Raiders went out and made a flashy

(44:44):
acquisition and gave him twenty eight million dollars a year,
and it couldn't score point.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Because all of the other stuff was a mess.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Meantime, for two decades in this league, Tom Brady has
surrounded himself with I don't know who, and that guy
over there that's a wide.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Receiver position, Jolman Johnson.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
The Chiefs went and said, we don't want to pay
two receivers. Actually, while we're at it, let's not pay
one and.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
One back to back Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yet we're all running around in circles trying to figure
out who's next to get.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Thirty million year.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
No wonder the forty nine ers are looking at Brandon
Ayuk and going, ah, we got a different idea on
how this is gonna go.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
No, I drafted his replacement, So why why?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I thought, that's my question, Why why are we doing this?

Speaker 4 (45:53):
It's the ebbs and flow of things. The teams that
are performing at a high clip have dynamic pass catchers,
right Now, every team is not going to go to
the Super Bowl. But when you look at the forty
nine ers and you look at de Bo, you look

(46:14):
at you, you look at Kerry Kittle, then you look
at Travis kelcey uh and the Strides. Did Patrick ma
Like I take Patrick Mahomes out because he's an outlier,
he falls into Tom Brady. It doesn't matter, right, it
doesn't matter. Sure, But then you look at like every

(46:34):
one of those guys in that documentary, I'm in Ross,
Saint Brown, Deebo, Samuels, even Carry Kittles, George George, I
mean Carrie George, George Kittle, and.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
DeVante and Justin and Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Right, those guys are at the They are the best
of the best. Those guys are legit difference makers. Not
to the extent that they can make a difference without
a quarterback though, And that's the point. If you can
team up a quarterback with one of those guys, you're

(47:21):
going to have success. You're going to make the playoffs,
You're going to have an opportunity to compete, to play
in the Super Bowl. And I think that's why the
price tag is when you when you look at the
team's paying receivers outside of what the Raiders did. But
the Raiders did it for a reason. They had Derek Carr,
who was Devonte Adams quarterback in college at Fresno State. It, yes,

(47:48):
that's he's not going if he's not there, right, did
they have to pay a little bit extra? Of course,
you're taking him away from a Hall of Famer first ballot,
and you're teaming them up with the guy he loves.
Will sweeten the pot. We're gonna give you what you
want just to get you in the building. You look

(48:10):
at what's happening in Minnesota. When Kirk Cousins went down,
it was like, oh, you know, justin Jefferson, he still
put up numbers with what was this mullin the rookie
Nick Mullen, Nick Mullen, Right.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yeah, there were there, but there was a revolving door
for the Vikings last year.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Right.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
So, a best friend to a quarterback who's unsure and
unproven is a dynamic receiver and a dynamic tight end
best friends because they can bail you out when you
got a fifty to fifty ball guy or eighty twenty guy,
meaning it's two players covering them and he still has

(48:51):
an eighty percent chance to get Andre Johnson was like
that Andre Johnson would Hey man, we first of all
just want to say Andre John's is the only quarterback
in the National Football League who didn't have a Hall
of Fame quarterback or a Hall of Fame receiver playing
opposite on him to make the Hall of Fame, just
to you know, just throw it out there, and I'll

(49:12):
be in Canton next week, in a week, two weeks,
a week and half to watch my friend and my
teammate getting shrine into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Love that, Love that.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
My guy, love him, one of my best teammates.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Ever, I did not make the point that I made
to say that receivers are not great. They're not important,
they're not fun to watch, they're not faces of the league.
You mentioned fantasy football. Look, all of these things are true.
What I'm looking for, though, is for this market to

(49:50):
simply settle into the right spot in terms of how
they equate to winning. Because you pointed out or if
you've got some of these guys, those are the teams
that are are competing for Super Bowls. Well, I'm going
to slightly push back on that. In a couple of
forms number one. It's one thing to pay one guy,

(50:12):
it's another to pay two. The Eagles have paid two,
and their whole thing went sideways last year. The Dolphins
have paid two. They didn't beat anybody good all year,
let alone in the playoffs. I could look around the

(50:33):
league at some of these teams that are prioritizing two
receivers and really.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Question exactly where.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
And some of the teams that really set the bar,
the Chiefs, the Ravens, to a lesser degree, the forty
nine Ers. They had to pay one two years ago,
and now they're really bucking at the idea of paying two.
These teams said, look what the Packers did Green Bay.

(51:03):
You know, look at their side of the DeVante situation.
They went, Aaron's getting old.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
We're gonna have.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
To reboot QB Let's reboot wide receiver. While we're at it.
They got four guys that were all drafted.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
In the last two years.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
And guess what they're gonna do when those guys come
up for contract extensions. Don't pay one of them, they'll
pay Maybe they'll pay one of them, although I'd argue
that number is going to be a lot less because
they're so spread out at that at that position.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
That no one's gonna put up fifteen hundred yards.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
I'll tell you this, you said it yourself, and you're
not you know, you're not being contrary or anything like that.
We talked about paying a receiver, not too You can't
be successful and pay two receivers. It's not in the
cards because you don't need two receivers to be that successful.

(51:57):
That's why Brandon Ayuk is standing on the outside and
look in they are just fine with a young rookie
draft pick learning from d Bow and George and and
and being there with Brock. They don't need two one

(52:17):
hundred million dollar receivers. It's hard to build a team
when you spend two hundred million dollars on pass catchers.
It doesn't work. You're breaking the model. Now, that's not
what you do, because now you're taking away from a
d n Now you're taking away from a nose guard

(52:39):
that can stop the run. Now you're taking away from
a corner that can shut down half the field. When
you got two pass catchers, I don't care who your
quarterback is, you can only throw the ball to one
of them at a time. And so the thing that
made the Minnesota Vikings great back in ninety eight when
they drafted Randy Moss and had Chris Carter.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Over there is.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
You had Chris Carter and you're drafted a Hall of
Fame receiver and Randy Moss. That's how you do that.
But guess what, when it had to pay Randy, Chris
was already done. So you the days of stacking the

(53:22):
wide out room with expensive guys, that is the opposite
thing to do because you can't service both of them,
and you're taking away places where that can benefit the team,
where you can put that money on the offensive line,

(53:42):
or let's give the quarterback time to actually get the
ball to one of them.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
That would be good.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
And in that specific situation, they're going to have to
actually pay.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
The quarterback too. Yeah, oh yeah, a lot, a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
So this documentary it adjusted my opinion there, and then
that's in the macro and in the micro it sort
of adjusted my opinion on this forty nine er situation
that you're talking about as well. And I have a
very specific question that I value your opinion on this
and I want to ask you about that coming up next,

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Speaker 2 (55:11):
You putting that house back together after everybody ruined it
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dot Com studios with me from Salama Mark Willard. So
we're talking about kind of like NFL opinions that have

(55:32):
been sparked off of this Netflix doc Receivers, which I
find really interesting.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
What's up? I'm done with four? You told me about this.
I know I'm slow. What's you doing?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Because this week we did a little mash up at
our station here in the Bay Area, and I did
the morning show. So I was getting up at four
point thirty in the morning every day and once dinner's done,
it eight. Dude, I wouldn't have been able to stay
awake for a light show, like, oh my god, nothing

(56:07):
could have kept me awake. So I slow this week,
but I hopped into one last night. I'll be doing
some more tonight after our show. So I'm trying. And
I will say, by the way, the quick kind of
the review of it, if you will, Davante's fantastic and

(56:28):
his miked up moments on the sideline are a highlight.
Go ahead, no no, no, you go keep going, keep going.
Kittle is exactly what you'd expect him to be. One
of the most engaging people in the NFL. Debo is awesome.
That's the cutest kid I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
In my life. Like that him as a dad, that's tremendous.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
And just watching what these guys went through physically, Justin's
situation sort of didn't. He's great, but his situation last
year didn't really unfold in a great way because he
got hurt and then his quarterback got hurt. So I
have to imagine somewhere along the line there was a
producer of this documentary that went, damn, that's not quite

(57:11):
how we wanted to go. And then I'm a huge
fan of aman Ross Saint.

Speaker 10 (57:16):
Brown Man, his whole fans, so the whole family, they're
they're like wild, but he's a little he's just a
little dry in his sort of delivery.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
So that's that's my review of it. But it's really
good stuff.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
I love it. I think it gives great insight into players.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I think you get to really see what those hits
that you see, your favorite, your your favorite point getter
in in in fantasy football. I love it because it
humanizes I spoke last week at the top of the
show about human eye being humans, right, And I love

(58:03):
these documentaries because we get so enthralled in the entertainment.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Aspect of sport.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Are movies our TV that we forget we're actually watching
humans that have wives and children and responsibilities outside of
their job.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Because that's all it is.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
It's a job. It's a job everybody can't.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Do, no doubt, but it's a job.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
There's no way for fans to do this, and I
wouldn't ask for them too. Like, the whole point of
this is it is entertainment, and we're never gonna stop
fans from sitting around screaming at TVs, eating nachos, drinking beer,
high fiving, and getting frustrated.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
That's the deal.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Nothing's ever gonna like when you lose your fantasy game
by one.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Point three points.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I'm not like, who's the person that's gonna be like, well, look,
we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
He might have had a rough week, maybe his mom
is sick. No one's gonna do that, but it's tremendous
after the fact.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I can remember the primetime game between the Lions and
the Raiders. I can remember it so well. And we're
watching this game. My son's got Davante on his team.
I've got Aman Rahan mine, and we're just sitting there
like dumb Americans, you know, shoveling food into our faces.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
You know, come on, throw the ball to my guy.
Little do we know?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Davante is literally having the equivalent of an NFL midlife crisis,
and aman Ra's got hand, foot in mouth disease and
has covered his whole body with all kinds of clothing
and says that when the ball hits his hands it
feels like needles.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
I'm just like, holy hell, yeah, man, for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
It'll make you feel guilty, it really will, because I'm like,
the nachos are delicious when you throw it to Amen Ra, please,
I had that little little do you know what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
That's the point, yes, right you. It's easy to sit
and watch. It's it's like, oh, come on, man, do
this and do that and just de bo right him
coming out of that playoff game. Everybody come as a
playoff game. I mean, goodness, gracious, And the thing I

(01:00:33):
really I'm on episode eight and so we just did
the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Don't spoil it for me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
When you know what happens in the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
We actually forty nine ers rally and win, and we
actually talked about some of the decisions. The decisions that
Dan Campbell made are even worse now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
I can't wait to get in there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
It's even worse now when you see it like this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
I came right, we came right on the air, and
we talked about it the next day or whatever that is.
I didn't understand. I thought it was the dumbest decisions,
two of them. You leave six points on the on
the on the field and you lose by three after
being up by.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Seventeen seventeen and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Yes, right, And so watching it back, I'm like, man,
this has gotta be one of the idiot. Well, well
this is how we got here, and this is what
we're gonna do. Hey man, sometimes your ego and your
vibrado can choke out your opportunity, and that's exactly what happened.
You have to take those points. I'm in ros Saint

(01:01:39):
Brown's dad Mister Universe two times over. Was like, in
the moment, you gotta take the points. You gotta take
the points. This is the playoffs. Baby, points are at
a premium.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Well, those are the only to me, those are the
only people that get to talk. It was that your
opinion in the moment, mine get yeah, not mine too.
And again but I was loving it because I'm a
forty nine.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Er, right, you were like, yes, do it. It's thirty four.
It's courting for it. Absolutely for it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I was like, uh, Renee Russo in tin Cup, go
for it? Who cares? Just whatever? Yeah? Great?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
But uh but no, my opinion in the moment was
I can't believe he's doing this. But for people that that, yeah,
we love it, damn goes for it. And then after
the game you're like, Damn, it didn't work. Dan's an idiot. No,
you don't get to do that. You don't get to
do that. You got it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
And that's that's experience, that's knowing the situation. Who knows it.
This was something think about the history of those two
bad calls, the opportunity to go to the Super Bowl
for the Detroit the Lions.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
Bro, what is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Looks?

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
I know what it feels like because when I played
in Atlanta and we were playing in Minnesota. Yeah, in
the NFC Championship game, if we would have decided to
do this or do two plays and we didn't win.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
Like that is forever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
That's forever. That's forever. There's no guarantee that the Lions
are going to get back to it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
And it took the Atlanta Falcons what eighteen seventeen years
to get.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Back exactly exactly. Yeah, that might have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Been his only shot, or he might win it all
this year, but it might have been his own.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
That could have been.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
And you have to make decisions based on now or never.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
It's like us right now, we could go for it.
We could keep talking, have the ability to do it.
We could just take over and we could do so
what has gotten us to this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Point in our lives.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Or we could take the points also known as Steve
de Sagers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Take the point points.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah, take the points. He's gonna he's gonna score. Come on, Steve,
give us some points.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Always take let's lead.

Speaker 9 (01:04:15):
With sho Heyotani's evening his thirtieth home run of the season,
the Dodgers lead the Boston Red Sox sixty three in
the bottom of the eighth by the way on in
relief at Dodger Stadium. Former Dodger closer Kenley Janssen, who
greater on during this series, in fact, last Night's gave
on Fox to try and close it out and gave
up a home run to his former teammate Kick Hernandez,

(01:04:36):
and eventually the Dodgers won an extras that home run
for Otani tonight, it nearly went over the roof in
right field, something Willie Stargel did a couple times, but literally,
I think no one else to right field has done
that in the long history of Dodger Stadium, which goes
back to nineteen sixty two. This was four hundred and
seventy three feet away. The Dodgers, with a win tonight,

(01:04:58):
would be fifty nine and forty one one on their season.
They're about a five hundred team the last couple of
months they had such a great start updating They've just
scored off Kenley Jansen seven to three Dodgers over Boston
with two outs in the bottom of the eighth. Seattle
as six to four winner over Houston. The Mariners back
into a tie for first in the Al West with Houston,
but alfielder Julio Rodriguez left with the sprained ankle after

(01:05:20):
a collision with the outfield wall. The Angels were trailing
at Oakland five to two, going to the eighth inning,
eight five Helo's the final. The A's record now thirty
nine and sixty two attendance in the East Bay ten thousand.
San Francisco won three to two at Colorado, the loss
to Ryan Feltner, although he pitched seven innings. He's now
one to ten for the Rockies. The Giants Jorge Solaire

(01:05:42):
hit the longest home run this season, estimated at four
hundred seventy eight feet. Saint Louis won at Atlanta six
to two. Brave second baseman Ozzie Albi's broke his wrist.
He could be out two months after a collision at
second base. Milwaukee won its third straight game eight seven
at Minnesota. Tampa Bay hit four home runs in a
six to four win at Yankee Stadium. New York's Aaron

(01:06:02):
Judge did hit one out today. His thirty fifth home
run Philadelphia was a six to nothing winner at Pittsburgh.
The Pirates had one sixth straight Washington and Toronto, with
wins Miami and San Diego as well. The Cub's got
a run on the bottom of the ninth and one
in the tenth to beat Arizona two to one in ten.
The game winner came on a basis loaded walk. Texas
beat Baltimore three to two. The Orioles are first in

(01:06:24):
the AL, still two games over the Yankees and Kansas
City with three runs in the bottom of the eighth
on three RBI singles, beat the White Sox four to one.
The White Sox have lost seven in a row. White
Sox have a record of twenty seven and seventy four
an the home run Kenley Jansen's just given up the
long ball to a guy that just came off the
injured list today, Jason Hayward has hit a two run shot.

(01:06:48):
It is tot nine to three Dodgers over the Red Size.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
If you get one up in twenty twenty four to
Jason Hayward, forget Tiger Woods, ken Lee, maybe you should retire.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
Yeah, I mean, Heyward, I think this is the proper sentence.
He's actually having a good season and he's betting two
oh five, so I'm backing you up.

Speaker 8 (01:07:10):
By that's one.

Speaker 9 (01:07:11):
This is an uptick for him, and Dodger fans are
reminding themselves. Oh so this was the closer who eventually
couldn't close during the World Series run of twenty twenty.
I had to find somebody else to send them to
a World Series title. Zander Schaffley won the Open Championship
by two strokes after a final round sixty five. Kyle
Larson took NASCAR's Brickyard four hundred, his fourth victory this year.

(01:07:32):
The Minnesota Vikings signed first round linebacker Dallas Turner from Alabama,
so the only unsigned player from this year's draft class
is Bengals offensive tackle Amarius Mims. Rookies reported to their
camp yesterday. Practice starts Wednesday. The Packers gave nose tackle
Kenny Clark a three year extension worth sixty four million dollars.
According to NFL media, Packers veterans reported to training camp today.

(01:07:55):
Chiefs and Ravens veterans each reported to camp Saturday. Most
NFL vets report Tuesday. Bears and Texans veterans already to
reported to camp this past week because the Hall of
Fame exhibition will be Bears versus Texans on August first.
The Texans are signing running back Cam Akers coming off
another torn achilles. The Bears activated tight end Gerald Everett.

(01:08:16):
Kansas City activated running back Clyde Edwards. Alarry passed his physical.
Raven's MVP quarterback Lamar Jackson was sent home from practice
due to illness today, so quarterback Josh Johnson ran the
first team offense and the Dolphins will work out edge
rusher Emmanuel Ogba tomorrow after linebacker Shaq Barrett retired yesterday.

Speaker 8 (01:08:34):
Programming note.

Speaker 9 (01:08:35):
US men's basketball tomorrow afternoon on Fox TV plays Germany,
last of their tune up games.

Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
It'll be in London.

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):
US Olympic women's basketball plays an exhibition Tuesday on FS
one three pm Eastern Time Tuesday against Germany, a team
they will play again in the Olympics.

Speaker 8 (01:08:53):
By the way, this year's US.

Speaker 9 (01:08:54):
Women's team lost last night to sendoff game in Phoenix
against a team of WNBA sto our one seventeen to
one nine. WNBA off for about a month. Now back
to you, we.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Need to talk about that tonight. We will.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
And right also, Steve, when are you going to do
the part about how Zanderschoffley just won the Open Championship
his second major of the year, but still somehow made
a million dollars less than whoever finished twenty third?

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
It live last week?

Speaker 9 (01:09:23):
Actually, when do we get that part next hour? I've
already looked it up and compared it to last Weekends Live,
which was just a normal tournament, not a major.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Just for the record, I can't wait. I can't wait.
It's become a signature of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Steve waits for his last segment on our show and
compares the PGA money to the Live and it just
gets stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
It gets end.

Speaker 9 (01:09:47):
And we will say in advance that the British Open
folks have really umped the ante on the purse, like
three four years in a row here, So with that
in mind, will still have a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Compare Still not enough, would be my guest. Oh and
by the way, speaking of you guys, you'll love this.
We're sitting here talking about receivers. How important are they?

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Right? What are they worth?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
And I'm sure you both know that one job in
sports where the money has been going down, down, down,
down is baseball manager. Major League Baseball manager in the
age of analytics, has been really lessened, right. I wonder
if you saw this story today, Steve, In that Giant's
Rockies game, Bob Melvin, the manager of the Giants, got

(01:10:35):
thrown out before the game even started. The umpiring has
been weird in this series, and so he got into
it at home plate when he was given out the
lineup card and he got tossed. Now, how important is
the manager to a game? Rookie pitcher Hayden bird Song
throws six innings, allows just two runs, and strikes out

(01:10:56):
twelve and says after the game he didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Even know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
That the manager had been injected until he got all
the way back into the clubhouse after his outing and
was like, what are you doing back here? That's how
important the manager is.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
That It is funny, astounding.

Speaker 9 (01:11:17):
And by the way, the manager for the Giants did
say afterwards, well, I just talked too much.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Too much.

Speaker 9 (01:11:23):
I went out with the bench coach delivering the lineup card. Hey,
i'mpiring's a hard job.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
I'm aware of that.

Speaker 9 (01:11:28):
Probably just said too much. Didn't plan, it wasn't choreographed. No,
I probably just went too far. But the fact that
today's starting pitcher did not know his own manager was no.
And the starting pitcher who was there for quite some time.
It's not like he was pulled in the second inning here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
No, through six innings and you would think this is
like his fifth major league start. You're thinking'd be looking
to the guy for some advice. Am I staying in Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:11:55):
He's getting one hundred pitches.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Yeah, right, Like, what do you think skip? No, not
even there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
He doesn't know, didn't know.

Speaker 9 (01:12:02):
And this is on the day where manager Jim Leland
gets into the Hall of Fame and guys, if he's there.
I mean, Bobby Cox used to get paid a lot
and Tommy Lasorta had total control compared to the control
Tommy Lesorta head to the control that Dave Roberts has
as the Dodgers skipper. Now, I mean it's astoundingly different,
as people found out in the Dodgers postseason runs like
five six years ago, when the starter just wasn't allowed

(01:12:26):
to go through the lineup a third time. Who cares
if he's only gone three and a third, you're out.
Let's go to the bullpen for the rest of the night.
Not the manager's decision.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Oh man, all right, great stuff, Steve, and I can't
wait to hear from you next hour. We're in the
tyreck dot Com studios, So we got going on the
human side, which I love, but I didn't get a
chance to ask you the very specific wide receiver question
that I wanted to ask you, So we'll do that
coming up next. We'll get to that w NBA All
Star Game at the top of the hour tirek dot

(01:12:57):
Com Studios with me from salam Mark Weather.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Well that's appropriate right there, Eric, because I'm watching receivers
and I'm like, man, it is my mind playing tricks
on me. We're live inthe tire rag dot com studios.
That's e from salam My Mark Whether. Here's what I'm saying.
Go back to I think it was episode four where
they profile that three game losing streak for the forty

(01:13:21):
nine ers.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
They go to, it's more impossible to cope.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
I feel like I'm the one that's singing. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
I was doing dope.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
You know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
No, No, you're good. It takes you to a certain place, man. Anyway,
Deebo gets hurt in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
And leaves and they lose, and then turns out he's
got a hairline fracture.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
He misses the next game and they lose, and then
they misses the next game and they lose, and then
they go to a bye week, and then he comes
back and all of a sudden, the Niners look like
the Niners again, and I'm listening to Shanahan.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Fell on the Weekend, Me and Ghetto.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
It's a good line. It's a good line. I can't
turn it off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Turn it off, or the show's over anyway. Now, I'm
listening to Party and Shanahan talk about the things that
Debo does and the way the offense is based around him,
things that fans don't see because I Uk is the
thirteen hundred and fifty yard receiver and Deebo's the nine
hundred yard receiver, and I know that they run the

(01:14:39):
ball with them and all that stuff. But I'm listening
to them talk about his importance in terms of stuff
that's happening on the field that people don't see. And
I'm taking those comments and I'm projecting them into these
negotiations that the Niners are having with Brandon Ayuk. And

(01:15:04):
I'm wondering because the popular thought has been I Yuk extension,
get one more year with Debo, then cut Debo. He's older,
he's more injure, he's more injury prone, and you're not gonna,
as you detailed, we're not going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Paying to You're not going to be paying to receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
That's been the common thought, and they supposedly shopped both
receivers before the draft as well, or at least took calls.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
I want to know if.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
You'll debunk this thought right now here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Which receiver is more.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Important to the forty nine ers now and going forward,
both Samuels?

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Because Deebo Samuels is a tempo setter, right, Deebo is
a glue guy. People, look, Deebo Samuels will set the tone. Okay,
when you have a receiver that can set the tone

(01:16:18):
the physicality aspect of the game, and you can put
him in a position where there's nothing you can do
defensively to take him away. Right, you line Brandon Nayute
out there, there's no Debo in the slot. Now, you
can put a safety over the top, and you can

(01:16:41):
bang Kittle around with the linebacker and uh, you know,
a corner or the safety. But when you put Deebo
lined up at X and he motions into the backfield,
Christian McCaffrey replaces him, deba like what do we do?
Who's what's happening? But not only that, when he actually

(01:17:03):
gets the ball in his hands, being able to bring
him down and stop him from gaining yards after the
catch is an impossible task. So as an offensive coordinator,
as an organization, as a head coach, as an ownership,

(01:17:24):
I want the guy that brings more facets to the tap.
I want the guy who can do more things, who
can help us the most period we drafted are us replacement.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
They gonna come.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Along, they gonna learn that this is how it goes.
They didn't draft Debo's replacement. There aren't de bos out there.
This is a special, special player who's not just used
as a receiver. He's used as a wrecking ball, a

(01:18:04):
wrecking ball. And that's the point. It's just not about
him running routes and catching passes. And you watched, as
you watch receiver, you understand that more than anything. The fans,
everybody when Deebo gets the ball, people stand up and oh,

(01:18:32):
by the way, all you have to do is ask
brock Party and he'll tell you who he prefers, what
makes him more comfortable. Go ahead, just ask him. Yeah,
that'll answer your questions right there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Well, and what it appears they're doing is leveraging the
fact that Brandon Aiyuk has none of it. He has
no leverage, So option A he may well be for
the forty nine ers to simply say, because as you said,
they drafted his replacement. But you don't want to handle
all that pressure to a rookie in a year where
they feel like they've got to be a.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yeah, so you make Brandon play on his fifty year
options and then you say goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
He he doesn't have any leverage, He has no leverage.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
He has to show up or he's putting tens of
millions of dollars in a fireplace.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
You gotta show up, and you got to show out
because this is you're you're selling yourself. Yes, because if
you sit out, say you just like, forget it, I'm
gonna sit out, and they go to the super Bowl
and win. You just cut whatever you were gonna make
on an open market in half mm.

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
Hmm, yep, period, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
And he needs the yep and he's and he needs
the year of service, and they've still got the franchise
tag to threaten over him.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
I put it on thus that out and you don't
get the year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
The staircase of leverage that the forty nine ers have over.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Brandon Ayuk is high.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
It is very, very high, which is why he's trying
to use TikTok to get people on his side. But yeah,
just me venturing a guest is not going to work,
all right, Mark with a dye from Salam. We are
in the tire raq dot com studios and coming up next,
my man Apram was inspired by the w.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
NBA All Star Game. More on that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Sure, you'd have the All Star team play Team USA
every year if you could, But there isn't a Team
USA every year, and in the NBA there's never a
Team USA is wrapped up and ready to go in
the month of February.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
But I'm with you, Bud.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
This thing got me scratching my head or at least
going huh, because that felt different, even though you can
still make the case there's nothing really on the line here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I mean, that's true with a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Of sporting events that we sign up to watch and
so this yesterday brought forth a little bit of young
versus old, new versus establishment, and for whatever reason, it
brought out the best in the game women's basketball, playing hard,

(01:21:47):
playing like they cared, and I think that's all fans
ever need.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
What did you see in this one? First off? It
was amazing. It was a great It was a great game,
unbelievable game, and it demolished the level of excitement that

(01:22:22):
NBA All Star weekend has.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Demolished. I'll take that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Those women, they were out there playing ball, man, they
enjoyed it. I enjoyed watching it. I watched the entire game.
I love seeing Caitlyn Clark out there killing it. It's
amazing how many assists you can have when you passing
to the best of the best, and they're catching those

(01:22:53):
passes and they're reading, anticipating where the ball is going
to be instead of being surprised when it gets there.
Love what Angel Reyes did. Love her coming right out
and battling, you know, Agent Wilson, just going at it,

(01:23:13):
one of her idols, coming right in, getting the offensive rebound,
getting a put back, having a double double. In the
All Star Game, both of those two young rookies were
flirting with, you know, all time rookie records, and you know,
Caitlin was two assists away from the assist record for
an All Star game for anybody, and it just was amazing.

(01:23:39):
Team USA, they're great, but that youth and that speed
and I can't, I can't talk about the team.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
What I'm talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
Please help me pronounce her name? I do not want
to mess it up. Which one? Now the MVP of
the of the game, Steve, what is it you said,
turning on Gombowale. She was on fire. I'm talking about

(01:24:17):
she would step back one leg three. You know, she
was in a zone and she was in that zone
before in twenty twenty one in this very game, this
very All Star game, going against Team USA. That was
the other time she won MVP of the All Star Game.

(01:24:38):
And it was it was, it was everything. It reminded
me of when Kobe went Ham in Philly. It reminded
me of when Jordan won Ham. Like back when they
used to compete in these games, the Men's All Star Weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:24:55):
You can bottle it up and then you can go
on and ship it out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Oh god, you can go and ball it up and
ship it out from the skills, the dunk, the three
point and the game. You can keep it. I would
rather them just take a break because it's unwatchable. It began,
it began what to be what the Pro Bowl was?

(01:25:17):
What's the point when you put the best players in
the world against each other? And so I love the
fact that they were out there competing the way they
were competing. I love the fact that the pride was there.
It was personal, right. I'm sure some of those women
who were NBA WNBA All Stars felt that they maybe

(01:25:40):
possibly should have had a spot on the national team.
So you get that little edge out there. But it
was entertaining. I loved it. I loved it for them.
I wonder what type of number it did. I know
it was over almost seventeen thousand people in attendance. It
was sold out and Phoenix. I love that. And you know,

(01:26:03):
I also love the break that they're gonna have because
that means we're gonna get back to some real high
level basketball after the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Would you say, look, I'm trying to look at ratings
right now since you brought it up, to see if
there's anything out there wm a viewership, tops records. Let's see,
I don't know if this is just the All Star Game. Yeah,

(01:26:34):
I'm not sure. Let's see Saturday's All Star Game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Anyway, I can't find any rating information yet. But your
larger point is an easy one to make. And I
said this yesterday on on on Fox Sports Radio when
when Carrie and I were hanging out in the morning yesterday.
Caitlin Clark is is the Tiger Woods of.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
The w n b A.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
She has that the the most underdiscussed story I thought
this week was the fact that and it's not official yet,
but the word is is that as the NBA does
its new TV deal, the WNBA is wrapped up into that.
So what portion is the WNBA up until this point?

(01:27:20):
Sixty million per year was the WNBA TV contract. Word
is in the new agreement two hundred million dollars per year.
And in fact, there are those in WNBA circles that
say that's a little low.

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
It should probably be higher. Well, slow down, set it down?

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
Why because we have to has to be sustained.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
No. Yeah, and I'm not arguing that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Are you going from sixty to two hundred and then
you're balking at the two hundred is like whoa because
what's going to happen is these salaries are now going
to increase, exactly salary. The reason going to increase because
viewership is there, the buzz is there, the entertainment values there,
which was is amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
But what you don't want to do is be like,
oh no, this is a travesty. Still like that's a
and forty million dollar increase.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Oh it's yes.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
So that's why I'm like, hey, let's.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
What are we doing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
It's a let's see the sixty one twenty one eighty two,
one hundred and thirty percent increase.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Do I have that about right? Yes? Yeah, so look, no,
I'm with you, and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Look the fighter points of the league and the dollars
and cents, that's for someone else to hash out to me.
It's more of a general thing for for us to
look at, which is it's the same arc of what
happened when Tiger came in golf is establishment looked at
him and went all right, who's this guy with all

(01:29:07):
the buzz about him? And then he arrived and people
really really were interested, and the other players in golf
were like, stop asking me about Tiger, and ask me
about me, because I've been here for a while, and
this is big boy golf, and we'll see if he
can do it. But I want you to ask me

(01:29:28):
about me because this is real. And then he got
to a point where Tiger was like, oh, he is
the best thing ever. And so people would still kind of,
I think quietly roll their eyes, but publicly they would
give respect. And then what do they do now? Now
you can't find a golfer to know Tiger? Tiger, Tiger's

(01:29:51):
my best friend. Tiger is incredible because Tiger, and what
they're basically saying is the third and fourth bedrooms in
all of their homes because our because of Tiger.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
And and so we're going to get there in w
n b A as well.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Yes, yes we will. And then much deserve, much deserved.
Now on the flip side of that, the men's national team,
who also had a game uh this weekend air quotes
game friendly tune up against South Sudan just really became

(01:30:36):
a country. And when I tell you, they got all
they could handle. And then some I said it at

(01:30:57):
the end of the basketball season, going into and going
when they put the team together, we're going to be
in trouble. Does that mean we're not gonna win goal.
That's not what I'm talking about. The expectation of a
team going undefeated and winning goal is the standard. It's

(01:31:19):
the standard. That's what we're talking about when we talk
about our best players in the world going up against
everyone else. So our standard is set by the dream
team beat everybody by forty cruise to the gold medal.

(01:31:46):
Now we know that the world has caught up and
so now it's not that anymore. But the standard is
we're not going to give games away. We're not going
to lose to anyone, wool play, none of that. But

(01:32:06):
they forgot to tell everybody else that they have to
adhere to that because these players who play in the
NBA and play against these great players are joining their
teams that have been playing together and a good it's

(01:32:27):
about five of those guys from South Sudan who need
to be I remember when Gabriel was in Who's at
the Lakers. He was at the and every time he
came in and did something great, I would just say, African,
you got that African blood coursing through your body, man,

(01:32:48):
And I made a joke, like we playing basketball, they
playing for freedom. They're playing for the right to represent
their country that is war torn. They were saying, they
don't even have there are no indoor gyms in the
South sident, none to where these practices held.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
You see what I'm saying. They're playing for something bigger
than basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Totally, and that's that is something that is baked in
I think against these Team USA situations because whether it's
the players themselves, the fans, whatever we expect, no matter what,
all you got to do is show up. All you
have to do is show up. You waltz in there
and you're better than everybody. And it's just not true anymore,

(01:33:37):
especially when no matter how talented they are, they they
are still just basketball players who are thrown together. They
don't have plays, they don't not like that, know, the
little idiosyncrasies of one another like it just it doesn't
work anymore. I do not expect them to win gold.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
I do not may better.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
I would be surprised if they did. They better, they
better or what they better win goal? I know that
or what? Or they need to give some money back.
That's what they need to give some money back.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
Yeah, okay, so we get into that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
I'd also love to hear if you've got any ideas
on how other All Star games, particularly the NBA All
Star Game, could find ways to mimic what the WNBA
did yesterday. So all of that is ahead with you
from salam Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, y'all have
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(01:35:00):
there a way to mimic this what the WNBA did
with the All Star Game yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
I mean effort, Well, effort, Okay, what's gonna bring effort?

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
You can't make people give effort. I it has to
be important. Everybody so friendly, everybody's so buddy buddy with
each other. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing.
We need more friends and more love in the world,
but when you're competing against each other. The older guys

(01:35:40):
had a situation to where they could turn that off.
Magic and Jordan loved each other, but they love competing
against each other more Isaiah and Magic Bird and Magic
Kareem doctor j All. Yeah, nobody was Barkley Jordan.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Clyde.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
They all respected each other and liked each other, but
what they wanted to do was they wanted to beat
each other all Star game, regular season game, playoff game,
pickup game. And a little bit of that is not

(01:36:27):
a little bit. A lot of that is gone. It's
all gone. It's just now. It's just.

Speaker 5 (01:36:35):
You know, bugattis and summer homes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Well, here's you're right. So here, that's actually the thing
I think you could get. You can get people to
care based on certain sort of circumstantial factors.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
And here's the real here's the real deal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
WNBA is in a spot where every single woman who
is in that league realizes lightning is striking and the
time is right now that you have to be playing
your hardest, entertaining at your most. I mean, my goodness,
have you noticed how brilliant so many of them are

(01:37:24):
on social media right now?

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Just crushing it? And that's by design.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Ladies, get out in public, Ladies, be on your Instagram. Yes,
I'm sorry if this sounds a certain way like your
outfits for your arrivals.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
At the game, like they get it. You have to
play the game. This is actually true in the NBA too,
so it's not a sexist thing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Watch Russell Westbrook arrive at a game like that's part
of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
And what's happened.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
I think with these NBA guys, as you put it
just a moment ago, you can't get them to care
because they're already made, and in fact, caring in an
all star game is too much.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Of a risk.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
The millions of dollars are too great to put on
the line and put your body on the line when
you don't have to. The ladies right now are still
trying to achieve the millions of dollars, so they're in
go get it mode. The NBA is in we already
got it mode. To me, that's the problem. But you

(01:38:35):
still could try to get creative by instead of having
all start to, Oh, let's do East versus Weft, let's
do Lebron's team versus stepste Yeah, how about if you
do that? Okay, that's better?

Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
No, that is it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
You do the USA versus the world?

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
Okay, Yes, I'm watching.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
You want to talk about compete, that's we're about to
go see that right now. We got a root awakening
with that friendly against South Sudan. It's the USA versus
the world. Now, you're going to take the best players
in the NBA and put them all on one team,
the best foreign players, put them all on one team

(01:39:20):
and them compete against the All Stars.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Yeah, I'm looking at I'm looking at the All Star
rosters right now, and I'm trying to think about what
the what the rest of the world roster would be.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Lukauka Embiid, Jannis shay Yo Kids, Carol Ben Carrow, Ben
Carrol Wimbin Yama.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
I mean it's sure, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Sure, right versus Steph lebron A d Anthony Edwards, Jalen Brown,
Jason Tatum, Jalen Bronson, Paul George, Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Yeah, okay, So what's the hold up?

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
Adam Silver doesn't want to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
Because you get exposed?

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
What do you mean, you get exposed?

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
You realize in front of the world, Oh, we don't
have the best players in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Oh no, but but but sure you do because they're
all in the NBA yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
But it's different, is it. Yep? It is? Huh, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
I'm not going to disagree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:40:41):
And but I hope because.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
Even though the money is the way it is because
of your TV rights overseas, I mean, that's not coming
from They're not getting that TV deal because American viewership.
That's we know. That's not the truth. They don't even
have Christmas Day anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
By the way, are you so sure that that, yes, yes,
that world team is better it is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Listen to the well, listen to the team.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
I just just let me just throw this out at you. Okay,
a team and before South Sudan, the US team had
a problem with Australia. Okay, sure, right, and then they

(01:41:29):
played South Sudan and.

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
They were getting ran through.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
But I don't think this is a like for like
comp because those are teams that play together throughout the year.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Yeah, but the problem is there may be one or
two NBA guys on those teams. You're talking about the
best of the NBA all on one team. And oh,
by the way, this whole running plays and all that,
nobody in the NBA runs plays, and the plays that
they do run everybody he runs them. Horn Zipper like

(01:42:04):
they all run the same place.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Okay, they do, but continuity in the NBA has also
been proven to work.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
There's a reason for that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Team basketball matters if you're doing it for one game
in February and both teams are just thrown together stars.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
I don't think one's got a big edge over the.

Speaker 5 (01:42:23):
Other, do you, Yeah, one wants to win more than
the other, and why I know which one that would be.
That's an interesting point. I know which one that would be.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
And the only way to match that is to have
pride on the line.

Speaker 5 (01:42:37):
It's not about the money.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
You could be like, oh the wind, the winners of
the game will get a million domes that just like
the play in tournament.

Speaker 5 (01:42:44):
That money is nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:47):
But the pride of basketball of country. That's what matters
in your contemporaries that you're going to some of your
teammates and you're gonna have to hear about this.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Yeah, I mean, but they're all from all the countries.
Would they really have that pride? It's basically just America
versus not America.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
Yes, in an American sport in America.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Well, I mean maybe Adam Silver is not wrong then,
because it is just one day and who gives a rip?

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
So, but you asked me, how can we? Yeah, how
can we? How can we match what the w NBA did?
Those young those NBA all that they all wanted to
be on the Olympic team. They weren't chosen, so they
ran through the Olympic team. Well, I just to me,
you led by two rookies, you can't be scared to

(01:43:47):
share your platform. That's why Steve de Sager comes in
here and hangs out for a while every hour. Share
the platform.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
Yes, thank you for leading us.

Speaker 9 (01:43:57):
By the way, guys, I saw a stat that's as
far as WNBA TV ratings before this season, the last
WNBA game that averaged one million viewers was in two
thousand and eight, Candae Parker's career debut. Just this week,
we had the cable game on Wednesday with Kitlin Clark's team,
The Fever against the Dallas Wings. That was one point

(01:44:19):
seven million, which means here as we hit the Olympic break,
sixteen games already this season have had at least a
million viewers, the most for a full WNBA season, including finals,
and fourteen of those sixteen have been Caitlin Clark games.

Speaker 5 (01:44:36):
Gated ladies just saying Tiger, Tiger, Tiger.

Speaker 8 (01:44:40):
Yes, absolutely, y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:44:43):
Well, we had a long home run from sho Heo Todi,
thirtieth home run of his season, and the Dodgers beat
Boston tonight nine to six. You know, there's such a
thing as stat cast in baseball now, which gives you
more detailed stats, such as how many feet did that
home run travel? What are the three the hardest ballparks
in the majors this past decade? Under statcast? To hit

(01:45:04):
a long home run in the answers San Francisco, San Diego,
and Dodger Stadium, all three in California.

Speaker 8 (01:45:12):
And yet Shoheo.

Speaker 9 (01:45:13):
Tani has already hit six home runs at Dodger Stadium
this year, going at least four hundred and forty feet each.
The one tonight was four hundred and seventy three feet away.
It nearly went over the roof in right field. Dodgers
win nine to six. Shortstop Miguil Rojas did leave with
four armed tightness, and of course Mookie Bets is already

(01:45:35):
out still with the broken wrists. Seattle is tied for
first in the Al West again with Houston, after beating
the Stros six to four. Outfielder Julio Rodriguez left with
a sprained ankle after a collision with the outfield wall.
Atlanta's second baseman, Ozzie Albi's broke his wrist today could
be out two months after a collision at second base.
Saint Louis was a winner at Atlanta, six to two

(01:45:56):
victories for the Angels and Giants wins for Washington and Milwauk.
Tampa Bay was a six to four winner at the Yankees,
despite Aaron Judge hitting his thirty fifth home run of
the season. By the Way, Giancarlos Stand with his strain hamstring,
could return in about a week. He's missed a month
so far. Philadelphia was a six to nothing winner at Pittsburgh.
The Pirates had won six straight. Kansas City with three

(01:46:18):
runs bottom of the eighth beat the White Sox for
to one. The White Sox have lost seven in a row.
Texas defeated Baltimore three to two. The Orioles are first
in the Ale, still two games over the Yankees. Kyle
Larson took NASCAR's Brickyard four hundred, his fourth victory this year,
which leads the series. Tyler Reddick finished second. The Minnesota
Vikings signed first round linebacker Dallas Turner. The Packers gave

(01:46:41):
nose tackle Kenny Clark a three year extension. The Summer
Olympics opening ceremony is Friday in Paris. A reminder, US
men's basketball tomorrow afternoon on Fox TV plays Germany, last
of their tune up games. It'll be in London. The
Americans Olympic tournament starts a week from today against Serbia.
The Women's Olympic Tournament starts for the US on Monday,

(01:47:02):
the twenty ninth, against Japan. There's a Women's Olympic team
exhibition on FS one Tuesday, three pm Eastern Time against
a Germany team that they'll be playing again in the Olympics.
By the way, the Celtics gave Sam Houser a four
year extension. The NBA Summer League final tomorrow after Miami
and Memphis got wins in Vegas today, and then we

(01:47:23):
had the last of the majors on the golf season,
the Open Championship going to Zander Shawfley, winning by two
strokes after a final round sixty five in Scotland at
Royal Troon. Justin Rose tied for second place with Billy Horschel.
There was a six way tie for second to start
the day, including Rose and Showfley number one rank Scotti.
Scheffler tied for seventh place with John Rahm. Shaffley also

(01:47:45):
won the PGA Championship this year. He's also the defending
Olympic gold medalist in men's golf. Have we mentioned he's
from San Diego State University.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
Woo woo uh?

Speaker 5 (01:47:55):
This is six where everywhere.

Speaker 9 (01:47:56):
This is the first year since nineteen eighty two that
US golfers claimed all four majors in a year. Scheffler
won the Masters, Bryson Deshambeau of the US Open. Shoffley
took the other two. Well the winner's check at the
Open this weekend. It's now up to three point one
million dollars. A tie for second place got one point
four to four million. Compare that tie for second place

(01:48:19):
money to third place in Live Golf a couple weeks ago,
which got more than one point four four million dollars
one point five milli in fact, just for a run
of the Mill tournament in Spain, not a major, third
place money was more than the tie for second gut
in Scotland. Today, Live golf returns next weekend in the UK.
At their last event in Spain, the winner got the

(01:48:42):
usual four million dollars plus any team bonuses for the weekend.
The British Open has the smallest prize person of the
four majors, despite increases the past few years. The last
comparison is veteran Padrick Harrington had a good weekend. He
finished in a tie for twenty second. Patrick Harrington this
weekend earned at the British Open about one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. You could get almost one hundred and

(01:49:05):
fifty thousand dollars and live for a tie for thirty
fifth place last weekend because Mito Pereira did take home
that check for finishing in a tie for thirty fifth
compared to the money that you'd have to tie for
twenty second at a major today in Scotland.

Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Back to you, good.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
Lord, good Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
We're just doing our little part every Sunday e from
to try to break down the vitriol and the anger
that so many have expressed at live golf.

Speaker 9 (01:49:48):
And did you notice why Tiger Woods did not take
the Ryder Cup captaincy. By the way, is he's still
in negotiations for this supposed Saudi money that's being combined
that's not been hammered out yet.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
I mean, that thing has got to be one of
the best sort of mysteries in sports, because right remember
when it was like, oh, were never they held it
it apart, and then all of a sudden, in the
middle of the night, the PGA Tour and Live kind
of did this agreement and everyone went, oh, Okay, it's

(01:50:21):
going to be unified for next year, and then that
was the last we heard of it, and it just
was like, it's just still sitting there and I.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Don't even know where that's going. No one does.

Speaker 9 (01:50:33):
It's supposed to be like a billion dollars up front,
and then yeah, we're still waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
From your right that no one does because Steve says
he doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
If Steve doesn't know, then no one knows, then no
one knows.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
No one knows.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
Tiger's probably tuned in somewhere since he's not playing this week.
He's like, I wonder what they're going to say at
seven thirty Pacific. That's where I get my golf info.

Speaker 9 (01:50:55):
You know, the Rder Cup. It's not like it's coming
up really soon. And Tiger Wood says I can't take
job because I'm still involved with that.

Speaker 8 (01:51:03):
That's how long words.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Yeah, it's not it's not getting figured out anytime soon
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
As always, Steve, thank you so much. Great work tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:51:14):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Yeah, fun stuff, good information, all the perspective. We are
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(01:51:39):
which team currently has the worst quarterback situation? So I'll
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Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
We're in the tire reg dot com studio. That is
he from Salaam. I'm Mark Willard, And if my math
is correct, from Scott Hansen who does the Red Zone Channel.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
Yes, he tweeted out yesterday fifty days till.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
Football, fifty days till the Red Zone Channel fires it up.
So if my math is correct, it is now forty
nine days until you football.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
You know what, I always get anxiety around this time
of year. Why is that because guys are starting to
head to training camp.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
M h weak for a lot of teams.

Speaker 5 (01:52:52):
I did it for so long that it's still in there.
I know what that. I know what.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
This week leading up to camp feels like it's.

Speaker 5 (01:53:08):
A combination of excitement and dread.

Speaker 4 (01:53:18):
You just got to remember when I did training camp,
it meant something different.

Speaker 5 (01:53:27):
I knew my first four years. We were in.

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
My first one, my first year in the league, we
were in Swane Drew. I didn't know what to expect.
It was just I'm just happy to be there. But
after that we went up to Furman University in South
Carolina and it was probably an average of a you know,
one hundred ninety eight humidity, like it was not pleasant.
And we stayed in division I don't even what division

(01:53:57):
is Furman Division two dorm right right the just imagine
what that is Division two dorms. And it was six
weeks of two days. It was aggressive. It was a
lot and look receivers and quarterbacks and DB's and they
having a good old time out there running routes. You know,

(01:54:18):
nobody's really tackling you. I mean, you get a couple
of live periods. But for offensive defensive linemen, linebackers, running backs,
it's we're hitting, yeah, all day, one on one's all
that in the competition aspects, that's the exciting part. You
get to compete in and you're excited to be back
and getting ready. The biggest excitement is the big check

(01:54:41):
star coming. You got six weeks and then you start
really getting paid. It's that little eleven hundred dollars and
twelve hundred dollars stipend a week for training camp that
don't really you know, but it would. I just knew,
Oh my god, and one week my head is going
to be on fire because the helmet. What I started
doing later in my career was when I start, as

(01:55:04):
I was running and working out getting in shape ready
for training camp, I start wearing my helmet doing it.
I start wearing my helmet as I was running and conditioning,
you know, starting in June when we got home from
you know, mini camps in OT eight, I will wear
my helmet because to break it in, because it's one

(01:55:27):
of the toughest things that after that first week of
two a days, your forehead is so tender being in
the helmet so much and having the contact so much.
I mean it's literally like to the touch, literally to
the touch, like if you just graze across your forehead,

(01:55:47):
it's excruciating pain. Like, so those types of things, and
knowing what that's going to feel, like, how hot it
is going to be outside, how just you know, the
fights that you're gonna get into with training camp, which
happened because you're so tired of going against your own team,
and guys and rookies are coming in trying to make

(01:56:09):
the It's just a lot. So it starts to build,
it starts to turn. At the time, I didn't know
this was anxiety, but it turns into anxiety. And I
still as soon as I hear somebody say, and this
week so and so on reports to you know, Houston
and the Bears have already reported again, I'm just like,
oh my god, hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
Here we go. Hall of Fame game.

Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
It just comes back and waves and.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
I'm just like, oh, it's like it's like mental muscle memory.

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
Yes, it is on you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
That's wild.

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
It's it is part of who you are. You do
it for so long. I remember my twelfth year, eleven
thirteenth year, my last year, and I was just at
practice and I was looking through my face mask and
I was looking up at the summer, I mean at
the sky, and I was like, oh my god, I

(01:57:04):
don't even see the face mask anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:57:09):
Think about that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
It's like people who wear glasses for so long forget
they're wearing glasses. I have a Outlneman face mask on,
and it didn't seem like I was looking through anything.
I was like, oh my gosh, wow, like you don't

(01:57:33):
even know it anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:57:35):
So here I am.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
And then I just started looking at the world through bars,
Like literally, I got a face mask on and I'm
just looking at it, and it just it really just
I was just like, wow, I didn't I don't even
know when I stopped noticing me looking through this face mask,

(01:57:56):
because it had been screeping going for so long. At
that point, I have been playing football for you know,
twenty plus years.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Reason number one hundred eighty two why I didn't play.
I mean, we'll start with the like I'm not big
enough for good enough for any of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Those are reasons number one, two, three, four five. But
I don't even know if I had the mentals for it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
Hey, before we go want to ask you this, which
team has the worst quarterback situation? My multiple choice five
are Raiders, Commanders, Brown's, Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
Giants, the Giants. Why you answer that way because Daniel
Jones wasn't the leader of the team. The expectations are
extremely high in New York and the leader of the
team is now playing for your rival. So their quarterback

(01:59:04):
situation is is a rap? This is lose lose.

Speaker 5 (01:59:11):
Is and you and you don't have you don't have
a star receiver or like what.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
Do you have? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
I mean, is there not some overlap with the Giants
and the Browns? Basically the idea is you paid.

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
Someone, but now you don't know because he can't like
it if he does come to get back to form
like he can play like he can Jane Jones can't play.
There's a difference. But he can't do it. We know
he can't do it. They know he can't. They gave
him the money. They stuck with him, forty five million
dollars a year to do.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
What to do?

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
So I think being in that market, it's easily the
Giants easily.

Speaker 3 (01:59:51):
It's a fair answer. It's it's a it's a fair answer.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Watch more receivers on Netflix and you'll think it's the Raiders,
but but it's It's a fair answer, my man. Great
stuff is always tonight, fun.

Speaker 5 (02:00:03):
Hang always, brother, always there.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
It is for e from Salam. I'm Mark Willard.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Stick right where you are, plank and span your are
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