Mark Willard and former NFL offensive tackle Ephraim Salaam begin the show discussing the beginning of the NBA Finals Game before Pacers G Tyrese Haliburton went down with an lower leg injury. The guys then change the discussion towards the increase of injuries in younger athletes and the multitude of factors that lead to them. Later, Willard and Ephraim dive into the Kevin Durant trade and how the Suns got fleeced in the deal, and if the Rockets have become an automatic championship contender, off the field issues with Shedeur Sanders, & MORE!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I am a big fan of being open and honest
with everyone and just letting people know where they stand,
where I stand, where you stand, like, please be an
open book. I try to be an open book. I
don't know why people like this is the beautiful, beautiful
part about getting older. You can just tell people where
you stand. And if they don't like it, who cares? Right,
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That's the beautiful thing about this. So from salam As,
we broadcast live from these Fox Sports Radio studios, and
this game seven is about to start. I think that
for the second or third time, you and I should
probably let people know where we stand. Right don't you
think we should be an open book?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I am an open book?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So I mean would you like to start? Would you
like me to start? Or how would you like to
what's that?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Please start?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay? So the pacers are about to play the thunder,
and your two radio hosts tonight are going to wrap
up the word objectivity and we're going to put it
into a box and we're going to wrap the box,
and then we're going to tape the box, and then
we're going to throw that box in the trash can.
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That's what we're going to do. There is no objectivity.
Tonight you are listening live to two rabbid intense Pacers
fans as this game gets going, because all based on
a conversation that started on this radio show exactly two
weeks ago. Turns out that you and I and as
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we talked about a little bit last week, we got
together on a transaction a transaction, and we thought maybe
maybe things were a little bit out of whack in
terms of how much of an underdog the Pacers were.
I don't know if necessarily we thought the Pacers were
gonna win, but were like, I think they gotta have
(02:01):
a chance. And these numbers are completely crazy. They're like
off the map, So like, I don't know, you want
to make this fun, and then you're like, let's make
this fun. I'm like, let's make this fun. And then
we're feeling very good about ourselves, and then we were
feeling very bad about ourselves. And now I'd like to know,
(02:22):
as we arrive at the final game, how you feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I feel good, Okay, I feel great.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
The thing we love about game sevens, and why game
sevens are so popular is because anything can happen. It
doesn't matter where you're playing, and of course it helps
if you're at home, but it doesn't matter where you're playing.
It's literally all right, let's see how this thing golos.
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And it's exciting that the Pacers have to feel amazing
right now because there's.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
No pressure on them.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
There's no pressure, yep, all the pressures on the greatest
team to ever play analytics wise. I mean, they've they've
beaten people by a point margin and never seen and
this era of we all of the all of those things.
The PACER's just here, they're just we should We don't
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even know. We aren't even supposed to be here. So
let's do something special.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'll tell you what, man, you come out of game
five and the Thunder win that one, and I don't
want to say going away.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It was going away in the end.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The Pacers, they made a run at them and they
cut that game to two points, and then the Thunder
went on a nice run to end the game. And
so they win, and they're up three to two, and
they look like they're dominant selves. They look like they've
navigated the PACER's best pitch and Tyres Halliburton is hurt
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and it it felt like in the news cycle over
the next seventy two hours that they were prepping the
world for Tyree's not gonna be able to play, and
then Tyrese does play, and then Tyrese is effective enough
in a game that the Thunder appeared to have no
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interest in playing whatsoever. And of all the surprises that
we've seen in these NBA playoffs and in this series,
I gotta tell you, Eve, the biggest surprise to me,
maybe of all, is how disinterested the Thunder looked in
winning Game six, with an NBA Championship ring sitting there
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waiting for them, and a point guard star on the
other team who was not at his best, and they
came out and they were I mean, they were down
by twenty or thirty before most of us on the
West Coast could get home from work. I never even
really got to experience this game. I hustled home from work.
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There was a big game that night in the WNBA
that night where we live here in the Bay Area, California.
Caitlyn Clark was in town, and so we had been
doing our show out at that game and coming home.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It was going to be a remote control night.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It was gonna be a toggle night because I want
to see what Caitlyn had for the Valkyries and what
the home crowd was feeling for that. But we also
had Game six of the NBA Finals, and by the
time I got to my couch, Game six of the
NBA Finals was not something anybody wanted to watch. The
Pacers had almost doubled what the thunder wor was gooring,
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and I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean, there's a title waiting for you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, that was odd to me.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah it you know, it happens, man, It happens like that.
You can get punched in the mouth and you can
feel and think that you can get.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Up from it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
But let's not forget this is the second youngest team
ever to play in the finals. The only person with
any semblance of championship experience experience, including the coach, is Carusop,
So they may not even know how to respond or
how they're supposed to act. That's why this journey is
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the journey. Now, if this is next year, it's a
different situation based on especially if they end up losing
this tonight to Endy. If they're in this position next
year again, like, that's what you've learned from. So someone
in the locker room was like, hey, man, don't forget
what happened last year. There's not a lot of that
out there. Second youngest team ever, average age twenty five,
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and so this is part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
If they are able to pull this off, that's miraculous. Yeah,
it's miraculous. But you know, we'll see who's the rift?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do we see? Is it Scott Foster? Is?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Do we have the okay? Good? Good? Well that's good
because you can't.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
His nickname is the extender, and I don't think that
this series can be extended. I read the rules. It's
not allowed. So no Scott Foster necessary tonight. But I
tell you what I wonder immediately what you could do
to describe to people the weight of a one game
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championship scenario, because in football, that's what it always is.
You don't get a series, you work your way, you
get once you get to the playoffs, you have this
weight every time you play. You've been to a super Bowl, Like,
what what is it? Because that's the one thing I
know everyone's looking at today. Everyone knows the thunder or
quote home better team favored.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But what I think we're all waiting for is who
looks like the weight of the moment is kind of
heavy on their shoulders.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
What did that feel like for you?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It was it was a surreal feeling. As the game
tips off and Indie scores right away.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's got to play from my hut.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It was a surreal feeling.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Because the thing about when I'm talking about youth, I'm
talking about it from experience. I was twenty two years old.
I was actually the youngest player to ever start in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
At the time.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And so for me it was nothing. It was like, oh, y'all,
don't do this every year. It was oh, you know,
this is my first experience in the NFL and here
we are in the super Bowl and I was too old.
I'll never forget our NFC championship game. We beat Minnesota
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and Adam Adam Schreiber was our backup center and he
was on the ground weeping like a baby, and I
was like, Adam, we're going, We're going to the super Bowl.
Man was that he was like this, I've been in
the league fifteen years, right, I've never even almost came
close to this ever, And so it's those one and
(09:17):
done games. Man, it's nothing like it. It's nothing like it.
And you want to talk about ice in your veins
and things of steel. You have to be completely locked
in and you gotta let things that happen bad go immediately.
You cannot fester, you cannot wonder, you cannot get upset.
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You just gotta let it go and move on. And
it's hard to do that when you're young.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Tell you what like, just you know, the the quick
and immediate observation as this thing get started, and you know,
bucket here or there whatever. What I noticed and what
I remember from the I think the last time the
NBA Finals went seven correct me if I'm wrong, But
was that Warriors Cavs. I think that's at least that's
(10:10):
the last time I can remember the NBA Finals going
seven games and the road team did win, as we know,
like Kyrie Irving hit the Big three down the stretch,
and I.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Just remember how low scoring that game was.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I think about when the Lakers played the Celtics and
everybody in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Quarter missed all the shots.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh, everybody just missed all of the shots, right, So
what happens? I think the gravity of the moment is
immediately in the room, and the game is slower.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's a slower game.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Everything becomes more deliberate, everything's more stressful, and to a degree,
I find that to be.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
A little bit of an equalizer.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I think it's harder to blow someone out run away
from them because everything is so deliberate. And maybe you know,
my glasses are are are foggy on this one, but
I feel like that little aspect of this could be
potentially a little helpful to Indiana on this night, because Okay,
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see when they play here, things get going downhill fast, yes,
and they run away from people and they build these
twenty point leads. And they might do that here in
seven minutes. I don't know, but I feel like that's
harder to do in game seven.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's it's gonna be one of these situations where you know,
you really just you gotta hope and pray you're on.
You gotta hope you're on. And basketball is such a
nuanced thing, as I have spent the last you know,
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three weekends at basketball tournaments, including today again fighting.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Traffic to get back.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I got a whole and when we're doing storytime, I
got a whole nother story for that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Oh good, I can't wait. I love storytime.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's you know, halla Burton's out, he's hitting, He's hit
the three.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Like this is going to be a heck of a game,
and is glad we're doing it together.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's going to be a fight. You want to do storytime?
I'd love to hear storytime.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Let's do it when we come back.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, and so this game, it might as well
do it now before this game gets real crazy, Like
we're gonna take this thing all the way to the finish.
Our third hour is gonna be something else. We're gonna
crown an NBA champion tonight. And oh, by the way,
in something I found very interesting off the top of
the day, I.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Was like, ooh, is the league, Like, is the league.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
A little bit mad that the the Rockets and Suns
like don't upstage the NBA Finals like Game seven breaking
your old Kevin Durant trade right right on the same day.
That was a little bit eyebrow raising, but definitely want
to break that trade down with you as well. So
that is around the corner. Good Sunday evening to you all.
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Glad you're with us. That's eight from Salama, Mark Willard,
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Speaker 2 (13:24):
Halfway through quarter one pacers by one. This one has
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Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, but I do want to just say, just fire away,
go ahead, go ahead. What do you got Just to
hit on what we were talking about earlier in terms
of nerves and all of that. What you will see
is like bench players and reserve players overpassing. Yep, nobody
wants to take the shot because nobody wants to miss
the shot. So there's been a couple of those situations
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on both sides where there's a lot of overpassing and
I'm like, no, that's open shoting.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Oh okay, all right, I mean the pay's got to
come out and let that thing fly.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
You're right. The Pacers last possession, I think they had
about five open shots and they just kept before they
decided to just go ahead and do a shot clock violation.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Meantime, Caruso's come off the bench and let it go
two threes right away.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know why because he's been there before.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
He's been there before, and that's what we were talking
about in the first segment. That's the difference. When you
do have that.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Experience, it just it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You've been there, you've done it, You've one and so
you just fall right into place of what you've already done.
Now story time, So we have another tournament, made hoops
tournament my ten year old who's playing eleven U and
it's in Seal Beach, not around the corner from the house.
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This is three weekends in a row where I have
to drive at least at the bare minimum an hour.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well to give people around the country context leaving your house.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No traffic California no traffic.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Is an hour no traffic.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I've had days where I've needed to go three miles
away and it was an hour no traffic. Okay, beautiful,
this is not this is the weekend. It's not rush hour.
This is not any of that. Oh no, oh no, oh,
oh boy, Tyrese. Haliburton is down. Haliburton is down, and
he is in tears and he is pounding.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Did he just tear his achilles? I mean, this was
exactly the worry. Watch it there, Yep, you see it?
You see it pop back? Yep?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Did Is that?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Is that? That?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
That?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That double click?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yep? Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You wondered that it looked like he just slipped and
lost the ball, but he knew immediately.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
He was pounding the ground. And the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
As a team are now all arm in arm and
surrounding Halliburton, who is down on the ground.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
And this is it is this unbelievable, awful, eerily reminiscent
of Kevin Durant in the finals against the Toronto Raptors
a number of years ago, when the same kind of
situation arose where.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
There was a calf strain and there was a conversation
about the risks and do we go for this?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Do we not go for this?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And he went forward and and he missed the next
basketball season and uh, and the Warriors obviously lost that
championship as well. And listen, you know you and I
have been in this conversation before. Don't want to act
like I'm a doctor.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Oh no, no, hey, look man, Pacers. Yes, I will
tell you that I know enough.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I would say a normal thinking human being at a
minimum right now is saying that the Pacers are doing
tonight without Halliburton.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And and I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Think it's a stretch to start even wondering if the
Pacers will be doing next year without Tyre's Halliburton too.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, that's what's.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Really scary right now.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's the is did the Jason Tatum thing just happen
again to another Eastern Conference team?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I don't know, man, that that is sad that that's.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Pops the balloon, doesn't it? Yep? There it is Pops
the Balloon.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And you know, yeah, I mean, like, gosh, there's so
many thoughts that that run through your head no matter
who you're rooting for tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But like, just even even if we whittle.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It all the way down. I mean, obviously the next
thing you think about is is just this organization and
this player and his well being going forward.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
But I also just think about what.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Like Game seven in the championship round is people's favorite.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Thing in the world.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Time didn't want to become a legend? Oh gosh, listen
to me. You want to become a legend, This is
how you become a Guess who you can ask about it?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Who? Nick Foles?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You can eat a man has a statue.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
If you want to become a legend, this is how
you do it.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Like Hostetler, Come on, it's there?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
What else it's there?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well? Yeah, has that ever happened in basketball?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Though? You know what I mean, I don't know. I
don't know who is Like, can we can we do this?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Can we just call calf strains what they are?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Uh, precursors to tornic? Can we just.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Achille springs because this, oh it's a cab. No one
wants to say the A word because it's like, oh,
so they put it on the calf. Calf is a
long month, so goes all the way up to behind
the knee. Look, Steve is watching it he can't even
Steve's about to fall out of his chair. Steve is
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about to fall. He can't even take it. TJ time,
TJ time. I'll save story time for after, Yeah, for after.
And you know what, Let's get to him early. Let's
bring him in now. I want to hear the emotion
he's updating with right now.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Wow, you guys are not wrong.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Exactly what we think happened just to happen on the
court and Tyrese Haliburton is done for the night and beyond.
This is Game seven of the NBA Finals. Oklahoma City
is leading eighteen sixteen over the Pacers. We got four
and a half minutes to go in the first quarter.
Halliburton had just become the first player in the history
of Game seven of the Finals to hit three three
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pointers in the first quarter. He had nine points in
seven minutes on the court, three to four from long distance.
It's not only reminiscent of the Durant injury, but it's
also very reminiscent of when Kobe Bryant tore his achilles.
Where the player is trying for that quick burst with
the ball, but his foot is so far behind him
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that you put strain on an already injured leg and snap.
It's eighteen all now, first quarter at Okce, where the
fans have not sat down, you know how they usually
stand for the opening tap and then finally when the
home team gets a bucket, they all sit down.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
No sitting down. Tonight, Game seven of the NBA Final.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Everybody goes home with a torn cow. Anyway, go go ahead.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
By the way, the Pacers franchise has won titles before.
They were ABA championships nineteen seventy sec and seventy three
they became an NBA team. Out of that, the thunder
franchise has won a title. The Seattle Sonics won the
NBA championship in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You get that one.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday, and my goodness, we
had a deal apparently today multiple reports saying the Suns
are trading Kevin Durant to Houston for Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks,
and a first rounder this week plus five future second
round draft choices. Durant is averaging twenty seven points a
game for his career. Among the five WNBA games Atlanta
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and Washington with wins, Las Vegas beat Indiana eighty nine
eighty one as Caitlin Clark and the loss had nine
eighteen points, tennis sists, eight turnovers from three point range.
She was one of ten LSU won the College World Series,
beating Coastal Carolina again five to three. They took game
one of the best of three yesterday one to nothing.
Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter signed. He reportedly gets thirty million
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dollars as a signing bonus. Keegan Bradley won the Travelers
by one stroke. Minji Lee took the Women's PGA. US
men's soccer has tied one to one with Haiti on
Fox TV right now through sixty six minutes. At the
Gold Cup Tournament, alex Poalot took the IndyCar Race at
Roade America, Wisconsin. Chase Briscoe was the NASCAR winner at Pocono.
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In Major League Baseball, there's a tie for first in
the NL East between the Mets and Phillies. In Philadelphia,
the Phills are ahead of the Mets five nothing in
the top of the fifth. The Dodgers were down three
to nothing in the sixth, but came back to beat
Washington thirteen to seven. Sho Hee Otani pitched a scoreless
first inning with two strikeouts. And at the plate today
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he had five RBI, a three run triple, and a
two run homer his twenty six And guys, can I
just say out loud that these MLB rule changes from
a couple of years ago, well, it's gone swimmingly, thank you.
It's such a better product compared to say, five years ago.
They didn't fundamentally alter the game of baseball. And they
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just deleted pauses, dead spots in the three hours of
the game to the point where I looked it up
for today, the Giants won their home game against Boston
nine to five. It took two hours forty three minutes. Wow,
for a nine to five game. Mariners won at Wrigley Field,
Chicago fourteen to six over the Cubs. That was two
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hours fifty five minutes for a game with twenty runs.
Was under three hours in Anaheim, Houston eight an eight
seven winner over the Angels two hours thirty eight minutes,
and the Dodgers thirteen to seven win at home against
Washington two hours forty five minutes. Again in the NBA,
about a minute ago, in the first quarter of Game
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seven of the NBA Finals, OK see up twenty to
twenty over the Pacers, but Tyrese Halliburton out with a
serious injury.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Back to you, Steve goudstuff and thank you and E.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I mean again, we all know what we just saw.
Did you watch Tyrese actually exit the court?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that was as bout as hard to watch.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, and he's feeling on tonight. He was on, he
was he was on in his mind. I'm going for
forty Yep, I'm tonight. I'm giving him a forty point
triple double. That's that's how he came into the game.
That's how he came into shooting.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And when that.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Thing is snatched away from you, it's hard, man, it is.
This is probably going to be the most emotional he's ever.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Been in his entire life right now.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And the other thing like to get you there.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Well, I mean it just.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I think about these kinds of moments when like everything
everything just changes, like.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Your whole world.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And again, it's sports. It's not a car accident. Nobody
has passed away tonight. But you go from a moment
of this guy's Q rating has gone up higher than
any other player in the NBA, in these playoffs. He
is at the biggest rise and that's not arguable. And
you have taken your team all the way to Game
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seven of the NBA Finals. You're on the road, you
show up and immediately, as you just said, you're on
one like you've got an opportunity for a legendary performance.
And in one step. Now it's like, I don't even
think I'm playing basketball next year like that, Wow, what
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mentally and emotionally he must be dealing with right now
to me is overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, it's it's literally like it's literally you'd rather.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Be anywhere on any anywhere off the earth, anywhere outside
the atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's where you physically want to be.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
You don't want to look at anything, you don't want
to hear anything.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
The only thing that.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Almost saves this, almost is if they get this win. Oh,
that's the only thing they'll stop you from dipping down
into a form of depression.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Brother. And I'm telling you, it is real.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yep, yep, it is real.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
No, I believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I believe it because when you're talking about the physical
side of this also, like even just you know, we've
watched story after story of athletes talk about when you
get that close to a title, whether it be Game
seven of the NBA Finals, whether it's losing the Super
Bowl in a close game. You know, you think about
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the way the Eagles lost the Super Bowl a few
years ago to the Chiefs. You think about the Niners
with an overtime loss to the Super Bowl. You think
about the Atlanta Falcons when twenty eight to three, Like
when you lose a bass or a sporting event like that, Like,
guys have talked about how long it takes them to
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get over it, and in fact, we've started to nickname
the following year for teams like that Super Bowl hangover,
like it is very, very difficult to recover from stuff
like this. And so you're right, you know, winning this
game tonight would maybe ease some of the pain, but
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that is one hell of an order.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
And I would just say, you know, you joked a
minute ago.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Hey TJ McConnell, you want to be a legend, here's
your opportunity. You're not wrong. I would say the early
returns on the first three minutes not looking great, kind
of kind of looks a little bit like the first
ten minutes of the movie when it's like, oh God,
you know what I mean, he needs to teen wolf
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out here.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Sorry to age myself, but he needs to turn into a.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Wolf because the regular TJ McConnell immediately showed as someone
who looks like he's not going to be able to
help the Pacers get a good shot off on offense.
Oklahoma City's defense is real. And so he's a change
of pace guy and now he's just a pace guy.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, it's that's a different thing. That is, that is
a completely different thing when your role changes. Immediately everything
you got. People got to realize everything is. It becomes
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ritual everything you do. I know, at a certain amount,
at the four minute mark, I'm going in, right, I know,
at the nine minute mark, I'm coming out. So once
you change what your responsibilities are, and now you are
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the go to guy, not the spark, not the spark,
the go to guy. Now you have to give us
twenty five, not it's extra if you give us twenty five.
Now we need your twenty five. And in that shot,
the need and you know, the want and all that.
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It makes it a different shot.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
TJ's been in the league a long time, He's made
a career of effort. Just give the effort. Everything else
to fall into place. Just give the effort.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well here's the we're really searching. But you want your
silver lining and it's not so much of silver lining.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But what did you say off the top of the last.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Segment, you said, Look, game seven, you're on the road,
those role players, you got to let it flow. Hey,
you gotta let it hang out. You gotta just take
that fear and somehow bottle it up and leave it
in the locker room. Well, now, I mean, gentlemen, you
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have nothing to lose, and so I think that's what
you're what you're getting at, Like, just let it rip,
and if it sucks, it sucks. But there's there's nothing
to even think about out there.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
The world already thought you were gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Now those buses that went viral before the game, now
their engines are on. For those of you who don't
know what I'm talking about, there's a video circulating of
the buses that already say OKC Thunder twenty twenty five NBA.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Champions and.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know there they are in the back of the
bowels of the stadium.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Ran that ran into something like that when I was
playing an NFC championship game.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Did you Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
During the game that we were currently playing in the
third quarter, the announcer tells the people in the stands
in Minnesota where they can go to purchase their Super
Bowl packages?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Did you tell them where they could go? Oh? We go,
I'll tell you where you go with your super Bowl package? Yeah,
Atlanta Falcons dot Com. I'm imagining that's not what he said.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Good lord.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, but I got a question for you about that too,
because Rick Carlisle made a big deal about it in
the in the pregame media session, and then a lot
of people have been like, you all know that the
Pacers busses have already been painted to right. I mean,
that's like those T shirts World Series champions t shirts,
and they make them for both teams and then whoever
doesn't win, they send them off, you know, right, they
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send them off.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
To That's a that's a funny that's a funny movie.
I'm working on something to put in a movie about that.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I'll tell you a player, who, you know, a big
time player, was a supposed to win it all. He
didn't win it all, and he's haunted by that, the
fact that he didn't win it all, and so he
just needs to get away, get away from the game,
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get away from everything, and so he flies to the
furthest region of where he thinks, you know, he can
go and get away with it. And it's a whole
village of kids and adults running around with with the
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you know, the wyoming art barks World Champion shirts, shorts, everything, hats,
championship T shirts.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That never happened. Yeah. I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
By the way, because of tyre's' injury, your your story
time got interrupted and it feels like maybe we can
get to that coming up next. But we're early in
the second quarter. The Pacers lead by one, but their
star guard is out. We will keep you up to
date on everything as it unfolds. As we are crowning
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an NBA champion tonight. We'll get to the Durant trade
as well. We're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios
with me from Salama, Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, these are the Fox Sports Radio studios I
see from Salamo, Mark Willard. We'll get to storytime right now,
but I also tell you coming up at the top
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of the hour, E from I like this is on
the fly because I don't know about you. I know
what my phone is doing right now. All my phone is,
it's loaded right now with friends, with co workers. Everybody
is saying the same thing. Man, it doesn't work anymore.
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It's either the season is too long, it's too many games,
it's too many games close together.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I could just tell you what. I could tell you
what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I mean, I don't like.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
We can get into it. But the bottom line is
that's how fans feel right now. Fans feel like what
we're looking at is just not workable. There's too many
twenty something year old players. Who's I mean, forget it right,
Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry. Okay, but when the twenty something's
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bodies start blowing up here.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
So let me tell you, talk to me that they
didn't add more games. No, they did not say they
two games, right. They even have put in a couple
breaks in there with the end season tournament and stuff
like that. So it's yep, it's not like it's more
games going on.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's not more games.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
The difference is the way they're training now. Lee athletes
are in better shape all of that, to eat all
of those things.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But there is no time off.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
These younger athletes train twenty four to seven, get off
the season, come in train. Especially it's detriment during Olympic years.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Two of the guys who pull their achilles were on
the Olympic basketball team.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Correct. I mean Jason just watched but.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He no, no, he was there. You had to practice,
he had travel, had to do all of that.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
It was a joke.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
But yes, yeah, I got it. I got it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yes, yes, can't rip.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Me off my soapbox with humor. Okay, I'm sorry, let's go.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
And So what happens is number one, if you do
not allow your body to heal, it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Won't Yep, it won't like if you don't.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Probably the best thing that happened to Lebron is him
hurting his knee his moniscus at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, because that made him sit down.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, there are a lot of examples of what you're
talking about. We talk about it here in the Bay
a lot because three years ago when the Warriors won
the championship, their older players were hurt off and on
all year long, and in fact, Steph Curry got hurt
with about three weeks to go until the playoffs, and
then he came back right as the playoffs started and
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he looked rejuvenated, and they went and they went won
a title. You know, So like, I think that's what
we're getting that though, Man.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I know the guy.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
You know, my son and my nephew, they work out
with the NBA trainer. They the guys are in there
working all the time. So why don't they stop. They
can't because that's the culture they they were raised in aau.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Basketball is just basketball year round round.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I know it. I know it.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
My ten year old just played in three weeks. Let
me count in three weeks. My ten year old just
played twenty games. Yep, he just played twenty games at ten,
which is now having me like, uh, you know what, let's.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Just pull back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
I hear you, right, because now it's becoming work, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I sweet, we don't have time for story night.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Dang, it's this is a segue into my storytime. Okay,
But they it's NonStop basketball, training, working out, shooting, playing NonStop.
And if you don't allow when I play in football
is different. But after the season, I didn't do anything
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for a month.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
I didn't lift the weight. I didn't do a jog,
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
If I could well one whole month, there you go.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
If I could have a nickel for every forty or
fifty or sixty year old athlete who has told me
exactly what you're telling me, I wouldn't need to be
working here tonight.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Michael Thompson, who I used to do a show with
Clay's dad, he used to joke with me. I think
he was joking, but he was like, when the off
season came, He's like, I grab my basketball and suck
it in the back of the closet.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
That's that he goes, I go, I went and play tennis.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
There's no basketball in the off season, and you let
those muscles rest period. Well, then we need to have
we need to start having some more conversations about this.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yes we do.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
You know what I mean, and we need your story time.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, that's what
we're doing with Mark wetherd and from salam More. Next,
you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Pacers are hanging in there.
Tyrese Haliburton lower leg injury. Yeah, we get it. We
(39:29):
got eyes. Tyrese had the calf injury coming in that
thing popped after a tour. Itd start for him. And
right now the Indiana Pacers are hanging in there in
a game that now the thunder really really have to
feel like they're going to win.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And he from the world is all reacting.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The broadcast moments ago was showing all of the tweets
that were sent out by current NBA players and stars,
all of them sending up their reactions and and UH
and prayers to uh to Halliburton. But it's just a
bummer on all fronts because quite frankly, no matter what
happens tonight, no matter how this plays out, I think
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this is gonna end up being kind of kind of
the biggest story of the night. And and you know
what I mean, this is what everyone's gonna want to
talk about. And I think that the NBA is going
to really have to dig into what you're talking about
and and think about. Again, I'm not saying changes, but
(40:32):
and maybe it's not the league. Maybe it's all of
these players, Like you got to think about the way
you're going about structuring. You said it so well it's
like everybody's in better shape, everybody eats better, but nobody
like this is the age of load management. What why
in the age of load management is this happening more?
(40:54):
And I agree with.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
You, so fix it.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Stop playing all this stuff in the off season.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
It's hard because the guys get so used to it
now it's literally part of the culture, like their gyms
and trainers all over the place.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I mean, and it.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Starts young, it starts dead, nine and ten years old.
Twenty games in three weeks, yep, twenty games in three weeks.
It's like and then there's like a skills camp Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
and it's like, no, I.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Get it, and there's a fomo thing, and it's like,
if you're not doing it, you're falling behind. That's how
it feels to everybody.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
The reason why I look at it a little differently
is because I didn't play a sport until high school.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It worked out, yep.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Literally, it's not how long you've been playing, it's how
fast can you close the gap. It's how fast you
can close the gap. So I started playing football my
ninth grade year. I was thirteen going on. I was
twelve one on thirteen skipped too great early on. That's
another story. But the thing was, there are people who
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have been playing for five years already, Pop Warner and
every other thing for five years. Literally they've been playing
almost their whole life. In one year, in one year,
I caught up. I ate up a five year gap,
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a five year head start in one year in football.
My second year, I got my first letter from a
college at fourteen. So in that one year, freshman sophomore year,
I made up a five year gap of youth sports, Warner,
(43:00):
whatever it is. And so it's not so much how
much do you have to play and how you got
to get these in and someone's getting better. It's how
you're training and how how much and how fast can
you erase the gap? Now I was older, I was
(43:23):
a teenager, so I could gauge how hard I needed
to work. I didn't have a dad. I had a dad,
but he wasn't telling me the secrets to be in
a pro We didn't have any professional trainers. All the
things our kids have access to now, specialized trainer he
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got trainers for shooting, got trainers for ball handling, got
trainers for change of pace.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
This is real.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Every day you go to a different trainer. Now you
fast forward.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
That and to being in the league for four or
five six that's just in the offseason, you go back
and work with those trainers. My son works with with
Olan at Guard You who trained Shay this past week.
(44:15):
He worked with Lebron's trainer for when he was in
high school. This is real, and so when this is
the landscape of what's happening, and so when guys don't
allow their bodies to recover fully, I'm just gonna go
into the gym and put up to a shot, a
(44:36):
couple of shots. Yeah, you're putting up a thousand though
in the offseason, you're putting up a thousand shots. And
I'm not saying don't work. I'm not saying that. What
I'm saying is take time off and you don't have
to push it every day. You got eighty two more
games coming plus a long playoff run. I don't care
(44:57):
how good you eat, how much meat you don't eat,
or how vegan you are. Your body is your body.
Your body is your body, and it needs to rest.
And so you're seeing these younger guys, these younger athletes
(45:18):
really pushing their bodies to the limit.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
And look, and.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
I mean, there's nothing you can do to strengthen your achilles. Now,
you can get your calf muscles strong and your quad
and all of that, but your achilles is your achilles,
that's right. Like you can't strengthen your acl for your
mcl right are your joints. You can strengthen the muscles
around your joints, but there's gotta be a time where
(45:48):
you really have to and and and that's not an
Adam Silver's problem. He can't mandate GUIDs. Sit down, it's not.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
The more I listen to you talk, the more offended
I keep getting at something that has already offended fans for.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
A long time now, and it is load management.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
So it's like, you're telling me that you'll take days
off during the season to recover, but you won't in
the off season. Well, how stupid is that? No wonder
everybody used to play eighty two games and not have
a first class plane ticket or a private plane. But
(46:27):
they were able to do all of that without getting injured. Yeah,
because there was no Drow League. There wasn't seventeen different
World Basketball championships in the off season, and there wasn't
what you're talking about with AAU culture. And so again,
like this is going to come off just sounding like
(46:49):
our opinion, and I guess it's nothing more than that,
But listen to what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And how stupid is this? How stupid is it that.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
We've got guys taking every second Thursday off during the
regular season, but but we can't get people, we can't
get people to rest.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
In August, chet Holmgren missed his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Why injury?
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Where yeah, over body Juliet against.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
No no, no, no, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
The Drew starts up in next the next couple of weeks,
and the Drew. I love the Drew, Love the Drew Drew.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
That that's an it's an incredible experiences for players.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
It's unbelievable. And I love the family. I know.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Then we're working with the Drew League and all we
got all kinds of stuff going on. Uh, you know
my life all you know outside of broadcasting, Yes, uh,
tremendous family has been run by the same family the
whole entire time, you know, looking for bigger and better
things to come. And so it's it's one of those
(47:58):
situations where you know, guys, really need that was a
bad call.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
This is a terrible call. This is terrible, terrible, terrible, real, terrible, terrible,
terrible flop. I'm so tired of it. I don't know
why the officials fall.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Why would that.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Completely a play on? And if it's not a play on,
it should be a foul on. Lou dort and a fingerwag.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
You just run across the path of someone.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Run good, Lord good, and then flop.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Your body to the ground.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
It should be more offensive to you than anybody on
planet Earth because you were an offensive lineman, like the
idea of when humongous athletic people get touched, they fall over.
It's literally what you built your job not doing, like
your balance, your core, your I am going to get
in your way, You're going to attack me, but I'm
(48:53):
going to stay right here. I can't stand it, man.
We got a lot to fix in the NBA here
this offseason, Aphrom, It's a lot to fix, man. It's frustrating.
It is very frustrating. It's sad.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
I feel bad for Tyres as they're showing his family
back there waiting for him. It's just one of those things, man,
injuries happen. I've been on the other side of the
knife as well. I've had surgery and started a game
eleven days after search. God, so stupid. But you're built different.
(49:38):
To be a professional athlete, you got to be built different.
You gotta be crazy. And that's why everybody can't do
what I'm telling you. Man, the physical attributes you have
to be a professional athlete, they're one thing, but the
mental toughness and fortitude completely, you gotta be bonkers.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Man.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
My kids, my wife is like, it's no way the
boys are playing football.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, it's all the table.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I know.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
You've told me for years, very adamant about that, that
you played football so they don't have to.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
It is you have to become a.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Psychopath, totally, totally.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
It's a hard, hard sport to do. It's harder to
do it for over a decade, one hundred I think
one hundred and fifty nine games I think I've played
in and my body feels it every single day that
I breathe. I've not had a day without pain. And now, look,
this is a bood who you know, the smallest violin
(50:40):
in the world. But I just want to I'm saying
it to let people really understand the amount of trauma
professional athletes put on their bodies. And I'm talking about
all professional athletes, all of them. And so when you
do it for year after year after year, like I said,
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these kids, these younger guys have been playing since they
were seven, eight nine, NonStop, from seven years old all
the way up to in pro NonStop year round.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
It started off.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
You do soccer, and then you go to baseball because
though the two youngest, you can be the youngest there.
And then you switch into soccer goes away, and then
you switch into baseball and you can start basketball around
five and so now you're doing baseball and basketball, and
right around nine ten.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
You no longer are.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Checking for baseball, especially if you have any type of
skill in basketball. And at twelve is the definite cutoff.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
YEP.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
At twelve years old, you're either gonna be a baseball
player or you're gonna go play something else. And the
reason is because once you get out of little league,
you plan against guys trying.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
To go to the to the league, YEP, to the show.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
It's hard, and it's hard hard.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
Because those guys are all in YEP, they're all in
and you got I remember I'm a baseball coach.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
No, they're trying to get their TJ surgery as quick
as possible.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
So it's it's they're all in, and then you specialize.
Now you used to grow up. But we talked about
this a while. I can't wait till we talk baseball either,
because you know, I got some takes on what's going
on in baseball, and you were, you know, absolutely right
about the rules. Steve was talking about the rule changes
in house and enhance the game. We'll get there, but
(52:42):
you stopped becomings. Pitchers could hit and field and pitch
and do all of those things. But once you get
around thirteen years old and you can pitch, hey, hey,
I'm just gonna have you go with the pitching coach. Well,
everybody go to the bad like it becomes a specialized thing,
(53:03):
no doubt. Like you're going to be it. Once you're
deemed a picture, then that's your path. You're going to
go be a picture. Right Like in high school you
may have you used to have quarterbacks who played safety
or quarterbacks who played you know, cornerback or whatever. It's
like yeah, yeah, yeah, no man, you just a little
league park in America, and the best picture is also the.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Best hitter, and then the best elder in the best everything.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
And then all of a sudden you get into college
and they look like they have their pants now when
they're trying to hit all of the sun.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
It's unbelievable. You're like, oh my god, what happened to you?
Speaker 4 (53:38):
That's what that it becomes specialized. That's what it youth
sports is. We're going to find the thing you do great,
and we're going to hyper focus on it to give
you a shot to go be a pro.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, I'm not into it, man, I gotta be honest
with you. I'm really not into it.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah, because I'm on this journey.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I hear you want to stary.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
We will get the storytime.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Pro will Actually, let's do it coming up next because
it's halftime and speaking you use the word bonkers, you're
ready for bonkers. The Pacers are ahead, it's halftime.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Can we catch out early option?
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh yeah? Can you imagine if this is a one
point game with a minute ago this?
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Can we cash out? Now?
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Look at this radio show ever, you know what, I'll look.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Look and see what we can take out. Now, I'm
a look I'm gonna long get a look right now
and then we'll go from there. Okay, storytime is next
when the Fox Sports Radio studios with e from Salama
Mark Willen, It's Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (54:43):
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Speaker 2 (54:54):
Live halftime in Oklahoma City eventful, to say the least,
the Pacers lead by one. Tyrese Halliburton's career has taken
a turn, and I don't think I'm overstating that he's
certainly out for tonight.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
It's one of those injuries.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Aaron Rodgers ask Kevin Durant asked where you could literally
see on the TV. You can see the calf and
the achilles pop. I don't want to go too far
with what this means for next year, but this appears
to have.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Every look of a long injury next year.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, for Tyrese Haliburton, this is a long term, significant injury.
But somehow someway one quarter without him and the Pacers
actually won that quarter. So hanging around, hanging around, but
a second half on the road of Game seven is
around the corner.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
But I'm kind of with.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
You, Like the longer this goes and it stays close,
the sphincter's factor takes over, and therefore it doesn't matter
what jersey you got on, and it doesn't matter what
building you're in. It just becomes nervous time. And so
a little bit of an equalizer. I think the third
quarter will be fascinating. The thunder could blow them off
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the court or this. We could be here all night,
so we'll see. We're in the five sports radio studios.
We're gonna we'll have an answer on an NBA champion
before we're done. So that's exciting. And then at long last,
we've we've been waiting for your story. I think we
should get to your story, all right.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
So, as you know, I've already said, you know, twenty
games in literally three weeks, no game is closer than
you know, one hour drive. And so this week's tournament
was in still beat the Mad Hoops tournament.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
And we go down and we.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
Have two games yesterday, not too bad, one at one
what was it, one forty five and the other one
at four fifty five. The breaks in between are deadly,
and then our Sunday morning game got switched to eight am.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
At six am I have to wake up, wake a
ten year old up. I can't even make him eat
at six fifteen am. Who's eating at six o'clock in
the morning at a ten year old in the summer.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
That's a nobody.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
So I had him.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
Put his uniform on, put a sweat to his sweats
and his sweatshirt on. I got his favorite pillow and
a blanket, took it to the car and you know,
let him lay on his blanket and his pillow in
the car seatboat. Of course we get down there. It
takes the whole first half of them to wake up.
Just two teams full of zombies, just of course, going
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back and.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Forth with each other. They end up winning. Was a
good game.
Speaker 4 (58:19):
Then we played at eight am. Then we played again
at twelve twenty pm. Okay, I'm like, bruh, where do
we supposed to do for five hours? And seal Beach
(58:43):
just far enough for you, don't for you not to
come home right right, not far enough to get a hotel.
Speaker 6 (58:50):
No.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
I think that the business owners at the mall set
the times for these games out of control.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
I swear they know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
Twenty dollar apart, yep, forty eight dollars weekend fee. Come on, man,
eighty five dollars tournament fee.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (59:10):
Six hundred dollars shoes. Everybody got out of Kobe's you
know how Kobe's already get geez.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
You're triggering.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
I'm just letting you know, man.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
And so right now, I love it when people pay
thousands of dollars for their kid to play, and then
you arrive at the tournament and they're like, yeah, that'd
be like twenty five dollars for you to come in here.
What do you mean twenty five dollars for me to
come in here? I funded this damn tournament already. I
own this tournament.
Speaker 4 (59:38):
It's a racket. I got to get one of these gyms.
We were looking in the one, though we are, we're
looking in the one to put over here.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
I'll buy into it. If the pacers win.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Right there we go, I like it.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Oh oh before I yeah, let me finish and then
we'll get to the other partner. And so the third
game was at two thirty. We're on the end at five.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yes, So.
Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
I gotta get out of there by no later than
three forty to get here on time. As I'm driving
the speed limit, of course, with precious cargo in. My
ten year old who's upset in the back playing the
Nintendo switch to not the one, the two because he
(01:00:30):
didn't play well in his opinion. Well, they were playing
against eleven year old who I'll send you a picture
and you tell me.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
How old this young man is.
Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
Oh god, yeah, I saw him drive the kids. I
saw him.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Oh gosh, he bought beer at halftime.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Go ahead, I'm sending you this picture right now, gonna
blow your mind, all right. And so I'm driving. I'm
coming up, uh getdy, you know, almost to where we
need to be, and a car and the car in
(01:01:17):
front of me goes over this plywood and it floats,
It flips it up in the air. So there's a
giant piece of plywood floating in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
The air towards the front of the car.
Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Oh smash, no boom, plywood explodes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Oh god, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
So I'm like, oh my god, I get here in time.
I go look in the front of my car and
the front it's an electric car. Yes, So the whole
front grille is like a solar unit with cameras, all
kinds of stuff in there.
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
The emblem is just hanging.
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Down this plywood stuck between my bumper, my bumper as
a hole on the left.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Hey man, do I talk this up to the au
journey as well?
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yes, you do?
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
This is these are the kinds of things that happened,
uh in these in these situations.
Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
So now that was the beginning of the show. I
was filling out my mobile claim for all State. Okay, hope, hope,
hopinging it's going to protect me from Mayhem like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Speaking of Mayhem, lou Dort just hit a.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Uh yeah, that was crazy. What the hell was that?
That was crazy?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Uh, you could have called all State. You could have
called Triple A. You could have called Steve de Seger.
Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I would have preferred him.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
You you, You.
Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Could have done that and and and that I've learned
would probably work as well. It's a problem. So so
let's go. Let's go see Steve de Seger.
Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
There he is.
Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
I will listened to said claim.
Speaker 8 (01:03:07):
But you're right, it probably would work just as well,
which is not good for anybody. We got ten minutes
to go, third quarter at Oklahoma City. This is Game
seven of the NBA Finals. The Thunder now up fifty
four to fifty one on the Pacers. The huge news
that Tyrese Halliburton of Indiana left in the first quarter
with an achilles injury had to be helped off the court.
(01:03:27):
He had nine points early on three three pointers. Leading
scorer for his team has now passcal Siakam with thirteen.
You had mentioned early in the show that these Game
sevens of the NBA Finals tend to be slogs, and
in fact, with a score of twenty five twenty two
after the first quarter, that was actually the highest scoring
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first quarter of any Game seven of the Finals in
the last forty years.
Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
So yes, proof of point.
Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
Indiana in the finals for the first time since two thousand.
Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
They have not won an NBA title.
Speaker 8 (01:04:01):
The Thunder franchise moved to OKC in two thousand and eight.
They made the finals twenty twelve, but have not won
an NBA title since the move. The Suns are trading
Kevin Durant to Houston for Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, and
a first rounder this week, plus five second round draft choices.
The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday. In the WNBA wins
(01:04:23):
for Seattle over New York. Wins for Atlanta, Washington, and
Las Vegas, which beat Indiana eighty nine to eighty one.
Caitlin Clark in defeat nineteen points, tenn assists, eight turnovers.
Keegan Bradley won the Travelers by one stroke. In Connecticut,
US men's soccer has beaten eighty two to one. The
Gold Cup tournament is on Fox and FS one. The
(01:04:43):
Americans will play a quarterfinal next Sunday. Alex Plot took
the IndyCar Race at Roade America in Wisconsin, his sixth
victory in nine events so far this season. Chase Briscoe
was the NASCAR winner at Pocono. Denny Hamlin was second.
LSU won the College World Series for the second time
in the last three years. They beat Coastal Carolina again today,
(01:05:04):
five to three, after taking the opener of the best
of three series yesterday one nothing. That win yesterday ended
Coastal's twenty six game winning streak. They'd gone two months
without a loss. In Major League Baseball, Tonight, the Phillies
are hosting the Mets. Those two are tied for first
in the NL East, but not for long bottom of
the eighth. The Phillies are up seven to one on
(01:05:26):
New York, and the Mets today sent catcher Francisco Alvarez
to triple a. He struck out thirty eight times in
thirty five games.
Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Dodgers beat Washington.
Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
Thirteen to seven, even though LA was down three to
nothing in the sixth inning, Max Munsey with a grand
slam and a three run homer. The Giants are second
in the NL West, still three and a half games
behind La. Padres, still five back. Giants won their game
nine to five over Boston. The Padres with a run
in the bottom of the ninth, get a one run
(01:05:57):
win three to two over Kansas City. Colorado beat Arizona
four to two. The Rockies record now eighteen at sixty
wins on the road for Cleveland and Houston, and the
Yankees scored three in the bottom of the eighth to
edge Baltimore four to two. Orioles catcher Adlee Rushman is
likely out through the All Star break with a strained oblique.
In the NBA, they're at a timeout right now, nine
(01:06:20):
to twenty to go, third quarter of Game seven of
the Finals at Oklahoma City. Thunder leading fifty six fifty
one over the Indiana Pacers. Each team shooting forty one
percent from the floor. In fact, Okse, the team that's
in the lead from three point range is five of
twenty three and one final note on the College World Series.
(01:06:40):
I don't know if you saw it, but in the
very first inning of the last game of the season,
the Coastal Carolina manager was thrown out for arguing balls
and strikes and his first base coach was tossed in
a similar argument two for the price of one in
the first standing of the final. The explanation afterwards was that, A,
(01:07:05):
of course, you can't argue balls and strikes, and after
you get a warning, it's immediately an ejection. After you
you keep going after it. His again, I have to
emphasize his explanation. The Coastal Carolina managers. I may have
heard a warning, but then his sentence after that was
(01:07:27):
you've already blown three calls out.
Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
He went back to.
Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
You, Yeah, I got feelings about this. I love that
you brought this up, Steve. And apparently also I guess
the guy's name is Kevin Schnall. Maybe has now already
been they've already levied some sort of a two game suspension.
Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
For next year.
Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah, for next year for quote bumping. Now I watch
the highlight.
Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
No, an umpire tripped.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
That's not a bump. That's a dude that tripped over
his own feet and fell on his butt. That's what
that umpire legs in the air the hall. It was tremendous.
It was worthy of a cartoon. That umpire went flying, truly.
Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
The essence of the unathletic.
Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Beautiful, yes, completely uncoordinated and uh and went all the
way down, all the way down and landed on the butt.
And and now they are suspending the Coastal Carolina head
coach because of this maneuver. I get bothered in major
(01:08:32):
games when people get thrown out for words.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I agree with that, and I and I realized that
there is at a certain point it's like, okay, that's
enough words. We've got to move on. And somehow you
have to move on. So I understand that. But I
think it's funny when people go ooh, he must have
said the really bad stuff. I'm like, y'all realize nobody
else heard it. I have no idea what the difference
(01:09:01):
is between bleepity bleep and right. And I hate you.
You meet ball sandwich, like there's no difference. Nobody can
hear them. I think umpires and referees and and all
of this they need. They especially in baseball, they need
like thick skin training. Man, it's your job to walk away.
(01:09:24):
You need to go touch the outfield wall. Go touch
the outfield wall. But we're not throwing out head coaches
in an elimination championship game in the first inning because
of words.
Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
That's stupid, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
And speaking of baseball, can we just agree that, you know,
not a lot of diehard fans are gonna be like,
wait a minute, but the Dodgers are really uplifting baseball
right now in a major way. Well, explain the word uplifting.
(01:09:58):
I think I get where you're coming. I didn't want
to say saving, okay, so I chose uplifting it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
The level of excitement sure surrounding that organization. Did you
watch that? I'm sure you did that Padre's Dodger series.
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Oh beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I'm you want to talk about must Ce TV?
Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, Now, I don't know if what you're saying is
what we need? Are more managers? Like we need more
sixty two year old people chest bumping each other. Funny,
it's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
But I remember last year around this time I had
the same sentiment about the Dodgers Yankees.
Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Yep, you did a series, and I.
Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Said, wouldn't this be amazing if this was if this
was the World Series? And what happened it was.
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
The World Series World Series.
Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
A lot of people were like, well, the Padres aren't
really do tell that to them, Tell that to the
Dodger Tell that to the Padres.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Oh no, they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
They Yeah, And in that playoff series last year, that's
how that's how rivalry starts. And so it was. It
was such a good showing on the on the on
the on the mound. It's just the energy that for
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those first five hitters could that lineup.
Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Doesn't quit and people don't realize that, Like they're sitting
there in first place with a really good record and
their whole pitching staff is gone, is gone, so like
pitch today right right, Well that was because they are
nine rounds or something. But but yeah, the point is
is in theory, they're they have one of the best
records in baseball and and they should get a lot better.
Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
They should get a lot better here real soon.
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, it's it's it really, they.
Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Are are are.
Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Really you know hitting in the time where you had
the NFL Draft, you had to you know, the playoffs,
NBA playoffs for them to be playing even the National
Series today. That game today was crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Yep. Yeah, They're down three to nothing about halfway through
the game.
Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
And they grand Slam in the seventh.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
By the time you get to the night Lightning, they
got a position player pitch and the thing was going on.
Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
But that's the excitement that the amount of runs being
scored now by these franchise I think is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I think that's what you need.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Tell you what lots to get to.
Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
And in fact, as we were having that conversation, the
game was tied a minute seventeen ago. Now the Thunder
up by nine. That's the third quarter I was worried about.
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we haven't even gotten to Kevin Dang Durant. So let's
do that and continue to watch Game seven of the
(01:13:16):
NBA Finals together. Coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.
We're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios. I mean
you said it earlier, TJ McConnell time, he's potentially having
a little bit of a moment. He's keeping it, he's
(01:13:37):
keeping it in it there for a moment, he's bawling.
But the Pacers are down in the third quarter. Halliburton's out.
If you're just joining us, TJ.
Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Time, Halliburton is.
Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Halliburton's not in this game, and we firmly believe that
Halliburton will not be in any games next year either,
And so that's kind of a bigger NBA issue that
everyone's talking about tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Really, really glad you're with us. No one near done yet.
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what'd you think of the what'd you think of the
Kevin Durant deal?
Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
I was like, Wow, but that that that's crazy to
me because it is what.
Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
One first round draft pick in there?
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
One this year's number ten overall pick. It also included
Jalen Green and then Dylan Brooks. You got to get
the salaries to match. Those are the players, and then
the tenth pick in this year's draft that's Wednesday, and
then five future second round second round picks.
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yes, yeah, what'd you think that?
Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Uh? I thought it would be much more than that.
I thought, at least, you know, it'd be multiple first
round draft picks. But look, I don't know if it's
more about hoof these turnovers? Boy goodness gracious, that's how
they get you. Then they feed off these turnovers. Gotta
(01:15:33):
take care of the ball, you know, I thought he
would fetch more. How about the fact that I don't
think Phoenix wants Jalen Green. I think they're looking to
ship him somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
It's interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Oh yeah, that's what happens when you're in the playoff,
your number two seed, you're in the playoffs, you're supposed
to be to go to guy, and you're benched in
the fourth quarter in multiple playoff games.
Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
That's a.
Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
That's a uh to hold the mirror in front of
the face type of situation, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I mean, here's here's what I would say. My first
two takeaways are. Number One, the Rockets are a legit
title contender next year. Yes, when you combined Kevin Durant
with the youth and an athleticism and now got a
little playoff experience too. Shan Goon, I'm in Thompson Thoms
you know what I mean, Everything that that Houston is
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going to have to be able to throw at the
at the league. Now, I think that they are a
true title contender. And what Phoenix is is a cautionary tale.
That's a cautionary tale. The Phoenix Suns. They got hosed
on this deal. But they didn't get hosed on this
deal today. They got hosed on this deal last offseason
(01:17:04):
when they decided not when it was painfully obvious to
everybody watching that they had to move on from one
of their high priced stars. It wasn't working. They were
way too hop top heavy. Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal, Devin Booker.
I was convinced they were going to trade Kevin Durant
(01:17:24):
last year, and as soon as that story was coming
together there they were to hold a press conference, and
no doubt, they were led by their owner Matt Ishbia,
and the press conference was basically to kiss Kevin Durant'
butt and tell him this team's gonna all be all
about him next year, and off we go to run.
Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
It back and do it again.
Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
And you didn't even make the play in tournament with
three of the highest priced players in the league. It's embarrassing.
And you led yourself down a road now trading him
when everyone knew you had to trade him, and therefore
you got pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Devin book are somewhere really day drinking right now.
Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
The Phoenix Suns are back to who they used to.
Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Do, just out there day drinking, look looking for some help.
They're back to who they used to be Man, Hello,
darkness friend.
Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Well, that's that's.
Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
That's what happens next, right, Like that's like count three
to two one before Devin Booker makes a phone call
and says, get me out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Got to I mean? And he is mister Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Right, that's the guy they want to keep. That's the
guy they want to keep. All right, we are dangerously
close to it, looking like this is going to be
the thunders ball game. But we'll head into our final
hour and crown a champion one way or another. Much
more to get to coming up next on Fox.
Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 10 (01:18:55):
Can I read you what I wrote? I want to
read you what I wrote. I want to read you
what I wrote. All right, let's do it, Okay, I
want to read you what I wrote. Thunders up by
thirteen started the fourth quarter. There's no Tyrese Halliburton.
Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Optimism is on life support for the Indiana Pacers. So
you could make the case that the timing of what
I wrote is based on that.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
You could, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
And I think that this is capturing where a lot
of NBA fans are tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
As Tyrese Halliburton is out, he absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
One without me being a doctor, I don't know how
this is anything but a torn achilles. You watched it
pop right there on National TV. And so now, from
Dame Lillard to Jason Tatum to Tyrese Halliburton, three of
the top star guards in the Eastern Conference are all
(01:19:55):
likely going to miss next year as well. And so
add that in to kind of the rest of what
we see in the NBA right now, and we're live
in the Fox Sports radio studios. Here's what I wrote,
and I want to know what you think of this.
I wrote, from the injuries, to the load management during
the season that they won't do in the off season,
(01:20:17):
to the flopping, to the foul baiting, the NBA, which
I love, is becoming a frustrating watch.
Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Okay, I can see your frustrations.
Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Yeah, I just think that there's so many and I
know that you'll say that this is simplifying it, but
I feel like there's a lot of fixable problems that
aren't being fixed. And that's what kind of gets me.
Everything in life has struggles, Everything has problems. Some people
(01:20:51):
don't believe there's anything, but there's no such thing as problems.
Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
They're just opportunities. For growth or whatever like. But when
when you're looking at this, when you're.
Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Watching officials constantly getting fooled, just constantly getting fooled, superstar
players who have basically been consistently rewarded for falling on
the ground rather than trying to score the basketball. And
(01:21:24):
then what I think is really the crux of the
issue you've brought up tonight with Haliburton going out, and
that is a fact that these guys will take Tuesday
Night off on TNT, but they won't rest in August.
And that's why as bodies get bigger, stronger, faster, more talented,
(01:21:46):
and more aware of their health, more of them are
getting hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Yeah, And so the NBA champion often.
Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Over the last handful of years feels less like the
NBA champion and just the team that lucked to the finish.
Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
With their players.
Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
War of attrition, That's what.
Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
It feels like. And I'm not saying that the Thunder
aren't the best team. They've been the best team all year,
but they're also the only one left with their players,
is it?
Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
They're the only ones left?
Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
So sometimes I've got to be lucky, man. Yeah, sure,
that's always part of it. Yeah, So I'm not mad
at that. I'm not mad that it looks like the
thunder who are now up by sixteen, are going to
win the NBA title.
Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
I just think that there's.
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, I think there's a lot in the NBA that
leads us down the road of screaming on social media
and calling for you know, oh, conspiracy theories and all
of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I get it. I get why people feel that way.
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I don't buy it, but I get why people feel
that way.
Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Look, this year in the NBA, and I know these
ratings are historically low for finals, but this has been
a good year in the NBA. It's been a good year.
We had some movement that we had never seen before
and never thought we would even.
Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Ever see.
Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
And so, you know, just things like that add to
where we are now or to essentially newbies about to
be crowned. Somebody's gonna be crowned NBA champion, and you know,
(01:23:42):
if it were the Pacers, I think it'd be the
first time that the team was crowned and won the
NBA Finals without a true like number one star. And
it goes to the level of teamwork that you know. Now, No,
it's not about it's shifting away from you go get
(01:24:03):
these three stars right, and you have to now build
out a team. You have to build out guys who
can actually come off the bench and do something, not
run around for three minutes so your stars can rest
and then come back and go back to the bench.
Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
You have to literally put.
Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
A team together.
Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
And I like that aspect of it because now in
the last seven years we've had a different champion, and
so I think the parody in the league boats well
for small market teams Indiana. Okay, See, if you draft
well and develop, then you have a better shot than
(01:24:44):
going out and spending a bunch of money on free agents.
Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Yep, I agree. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, I agree with you on that front. If this
could get more parody to the show, if this could
get more teams in the mix, I like that. Like
I could sit here today and I bet, especially with
the injuries and the unknown about trades and whatnot, I
bet I could like sell you on the idea of
(01:25:11):
almost ten teams who have a shot next year.
Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
And I've never felt that way in my entire life.
Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
No, but for a long time we've been dominated by dynasties, right,
you know, eighties, nineties, two.
Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Thous hello, I mean all of them.
Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
So yeah, this is a you know, essentially a new
NBA and it's going to take a minute to get
used to it. But look what's on the horizon. We
got the Cooper Flags getting ready to come into the
league and it's exciting. The league is now more global
now than ever before. People are able to watch all
(01:25:48):
over the world, whether you have you know, satellite or not.
Now you're getting to stream the games. It's a global game.
Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
We have more international players. When the last time an
American born player was even considered for the MVP. That's
taken some time to get used to for sure. But
the last seven eight of them haven't even been from
this country, right, And for those who don't know, Shay
is from Canada, he's not American.
Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
You're not like us.
Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Nope, no, you're not wrong on that. That's and that's
zoom out, big picture, all of that stuff. I am
really fascinated with the big news of the night, which
is not going to be the thunderbus, and the fact
that you can get darn close to you know, turning
(01:26:40):
the ignition and fired up and you know, they're like
they're up sixteen, ten and a half to go. I
know it's the Pacers, so maybe they'll come back for
one guy. The key to that, Yeah, he's out there.
That's the lead story of the night. That's the lead
story of the night, which is Halliburton is out. And
I'm very, very locked in on the point that you're making,
(01:27:02):
which is that these guys don't rest anymore. This is
cultural in the sport of basketball. And then you combine
that with the fact that they do rest during the season,
and I think fans a have a right to be upset,
and b the league has a right to be very
concerned because you can say this is a great year
(01:27:25):
because of parody, because of the international contingent.
Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
You're not wrong on any of that.
Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
But any sport will tell you that the worst thing
that can happen to it is for its stars to
not be available.
Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Oh yeah, that's in any sport. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
That is the number one.
Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
And we have got like I can sit here today
and already tell you without even playing the first game
of next year that there are three stars who will
not be available. So that's that's not a good thing.
And I don't know how you address it, because we
don't even have majority opinion on what's causing it, even
(01:28:06):
though I agree with your thinking.
Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
You know what, another thing that I've just been watching,
Kobe Bryant did something to the game of basketball that
is now the standard. He changed the type of shoes
people wore. So now all of the shoes are low top,
(01:28:34):
and so every basketball shoe pretty much essentially.
Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Is a low top shoe.
Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
That never was the case before. It was either quartertop
or high top correct right for ankle support achilles support.
Remember when Kobe came back from his achilles injury, he
no longer wore the low tops. So I don't know
if there's any correlation there, huh. But just look at
(01:29:06):
the footwear that's going on out out there right now.
Everybody's got on Kobe's or low tops or every every
basketball player now has a low type basketball shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
If you look fast, they look like running shoes.
Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Would you ever if you went to the gym or
to the park and somebody was playing in running shoes,
you wouldn't play with them because they leedle to do anything.
They liable to do anything you are doing some A
six Yes, there's no telling what you're gonna do. So look,
and I'm not saying that is the reason, but I'm
(01:29:40):
just saying that things that make you go hmm.
Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
So you know, I don't have the scientific.
Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Uh uh discovery to back up that hypothesis, but I
can't be far off.
Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Maybe maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Yeah, I mean, listen, we got to listen to uh,
listen to every idea right now because this is a threat.
Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
This, this is a threat.
Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
In fact, i'd love to run this by you since
you were just talking about the Dodgers. There's a major
baseball voice this week, John Hayman on MLB Network. Essentially
off of that Padres Dodgers brawl or bench clearing incident.
Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
It wasn't really a brawl.
Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
A couple managers got some you know, bumped their man
boobs up against one another, but whatever. But off of
that incident, there was a point he made that is
related to the point we're making about a game missing
its stars. And it was a controversial take and I
(01:30:48):
would love to hear if you agree with it. So
we'll get to that coming up next with e from
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Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Oh yeah, these are the Fox Sports Radio studios from
my I don't, I don't. I don't think we're going
to win. I don't think we're going to win? What
I don't think we're going to win?
Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
Did you see what we could have cashed out for?
That was your mission to do an option?
Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
It was not an option? Okay, no, no I did,
I did. I went on.
Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
I don't think you have I know I did. Oh no, no,
oh no, I did. At halftime I looked.
Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
It was not allowing us an option.
Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Hmmm, so so you say so so so so you say,
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and span your and they can celebrate the Oklahoma City
(01:32:31):
Thunders likely championship, still just down seventeen with six minutes
to go, and they are the pacers. So who knows,
but it looks like okay, so he's got this thing.
I wanted to run this by you. I don't know
if you heard this this week. So for those who
(01:32:51):
didn't follow the Dodger Padre dust up, you know, it
was four games of going back and forth and Fernando
Tatis got hit three times in four games, and by
the fourth game, these two teams, who already didn't like
each other, were really.
Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Really ticked off at one another.
Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
And so when Tatis got hit late in that game,
oh my god, the.
Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Padres turned around and threw one.
Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Up at the upper portion of Sho heo Tani. And
one thing, just one quick observation. I was pretty impressed
with show. Hey, so it was good. So you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
That man was like meditating in the middle of all
of this.
Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Was like no, no, no, it's fine, right, Like the
it was almost as if the dugout was like, we're
coming and he just he put his hand up as
if he was Darth Vader, and everybody just stopped, and
he was like.
Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Like was climbing over the gate, and I'm like, where
are you going?
Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Where you? Yeah? Where are you going? Old man?
Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
But show he holds his hand up like, obi, wan,
these aren't the baseball players you're looking for, and just
walks off to first base. Okay, So I'm impressed by
that number one, but number two. John Hayman on MLB
Network the next day, and I'll paraphrase essentially, he says, Look,
(01:34:23):
I'm not in favor of throwing at anyone, but this
stuff happens in baseball, and so if you get to
that point where you feel it is an absolute necessity, okay, fine,
but not him anyone else. So you could throw at someone,
(01:34:44):
you could even throw it Freddy Freeman, but you can't
throw at him because he is too important to the
success of this game as a whole.
Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Therefore you cannot risk hurting him.
Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
WHOA, I mean, what is your reaction to that. The
ladies of the w n B A don't feel that
way about.
Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Don't That's that is a great that's one comp Yep,
they sure don't.
Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
Right the NFL changed the rules to protect Tom Brady
and Patrick Mahon and Patrick Mahoon. Yes, yes, uh so, Yeah.
I mean he is the face of baseball, and he's
gotta be like the nicest guy ever, like, strikes out, nice,
(01:35:36):
hits a home run, nice, still the bay's nice, quails
brew haha, nice. I mean he's he's got to be
the coolest guy on the planet.
Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
He's pretty easy to to like.
Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Yes, I don't know if feels that way, but go ahead.
Well he not in jail, No, he reported.
Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
This week. Where where were where?
Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
You know? Jail?
Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Where Whi's one?
Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
I'll look it up, Okay, I'll look it up.
Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
Maybe we'll give Steve some homework before we bring him on.
Where's Epe in jail?
Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Pennsylvania. Homework done? Yeah, Pennsylvania. How long?
Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
How long is he in?
Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Fifty seven months?
Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
That's cushions, that's cushy.
Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
That's uh yeah, little less than five years.
Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
He'll be out in one and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, federal.
Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Cushiony mattress full of.
Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
He is at the Federal Correctional Institution alan Woodlow a
low security.
Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Very low.
Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
There's no gates, there's no there's no's no fences.
Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
No, no.
Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
I saw him at Subway getting the meatball sandwich about
about halfway through the first day. Yeah, No, he's fine,
he's right anyway you buy this. You're a football player.
You telling me that one guy has to be put
in glass?
Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Really?
Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Yeah, because he does something no one in the league does.
Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Right now, when you.
Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
Have something that no one else is doing protected.
Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
He has not been doing that for over.
Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
A year, but now he's coming back.
Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
Okay, So do you want to throw at the shoulders
of the next.
Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Well, I don't. I don't like throwing at the shoulders
or the head.
Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
You can't throw it, man, I don't. I don't like that.
No matter what we're talking about. You want to send
a message. It hurts like hell to get hit in
the ribs. And don't tell me that fastballs from major
league pitchers that they don't know where they're going.
Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
He hit him at one hundred miles an hour, Yes
he did.
Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
And that's completely dangerous and somebody could literally get killed.
So like, no, I'm not in favor of that, but
I'm not in favor of it for Freddie Freeman or
Mookie Bets.
Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
No, of course, not any or any player. No one
on the Dodgers, because I'm a Dodger fan.
Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
No one on any of the teams from Oh I mean,
I mean maybe the athletics.
Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
I don't even know if that counts, but do you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Yeah, Like, no, I'm not in favor of high and tight,
but I'm also not in favor of eliminating one player as.
Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
If he he like, no, do you like to the padres?
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Fernando Tatis is a massive cash cow if you're gonna
hit him three times.
Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
And man, when he gets hit, he is like somebody
shot him out of a rocket, right. He almost does
a backflip at the plate. I'm like, bro, really, hey.
Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Man, okay, hey, everybody's a showman.
Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
He's going to hurt himself in the reaction, right. But
but that's like my ten year old and when he
gets pushed in the game, he flies into the stands.
I'm like, you're gonna hurt yourself reacting to the push.
Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
I mean I used to do the same thing. I
had to get to that free throw line. Man, I
had to get to that free throw.
Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
You're the original free throw merchant.
Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, And now I hate it all right,
Look run man.
Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Yeah, I mean once they're down by.
Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Twelve, hey, that's what it's.
Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Oklahoma City's calling a time out
so they're worried enough.
Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Six possession.
Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
It is the Pacers. If anybody would do this, it's
the Pacers. So okay, we'll keep an eye on it.
Twelve point game. What do we got about four minutes ago? Hmm, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Right where we want them anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Anyway, I don't think you get to put yourself above
the rest of the game, because the rest of the
game already kind of feels like the Dodgers have done
that anyway, So I don't think that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
I know you're a fan, but I don't think that's good.
Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
And by the way, hey, you can have that opinion
all you want. It doesn't matter if the pits are
on the mountain disagrees with you. He's gonna throw the
ball wherever he throws the ball, and he got suspended
for three games. He appealed, but he got suspended for
three games.
Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
So yeah, it's I think. You know, it just took
me back to old school baseball. It took me back
to you know, dog day rivalries in mid season. It's
not even mid season. Have they played half the games yet?
Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Not quite? Not quite.
Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
They're getting the games.
Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Yeah, lord, so many games.
Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
It's kind of how I'm trying to be an advt baseball.
I'll be like du playing again to day.
Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Yeah, never get a break. I mean, after all these years,
I gotta feel like Steve feels that way, like so
many updates. It just my god, all the time with
the talking.
Speaker 8 (01:41:01):
We are at the midpoint this week of the Major
League Baseball season, and I know that because the Colorado
Rockies record at eighteen and sixty, it's easy to do
the calculations off that. By the way, the Padres closer
that you referenced, Robert Suarez, who is appealing the three
game suspension his right as a union member. Therefore, was
(01:41:22):
pitching this weekend and got the win in San Diego today,
three to two over Kansas City with a run bottom
of the ninth. Giants are still second in the NLS,
still three and a half behind the Dodgers, Padres still
five back. Giants beat Boston nine to five, and the
Dodgers were down three to nothing in the sixth and
still won thirteen to seven. Over Washington. Shoeo Tani pitched
(01:41:42):
a scoreless first inning with two strikeouts, and at the
plate he had five RBIs, hit a three run triple,
and a two run homer, his twenty sixth of the year.
Seattle's Cal Raley hit his thirty first home run of
the year. Seattle beat the Cubs in Chicago fourteen to six,
and tonight the Phillies now alone in four in the
nl East. Game up on, the Mets beat New York
(01:42:03):
seven to one. Well, they're winding down the NBA regular season,
and the lead at Oklahoma City for the Thunder, which
just over four minutes left, is ninety three seventy nine
against the Indiana Pacers. So, as veteran NBA writer Mark
Stein points out, Commissioner David Stern had crowned eight different
champions in his thirty postseasons as commission for Adam Silver,
(01:42:26):
this will already be crowning a ninth different franchise as
the titleist in his twelve postseasons as commissioner, and this
will be a record seventh new NBA champion in the
past seven seasons of this league. Assuming OKAC at home
holds on to a double digit lead, in the final minutes,
and for those expecting a Pacers comeback, there is one
(01:42:50):
element in the equation missing if it's close in the
last two minutes. Tyrese Halliburton, not on the court, left
in the first quarter with an achilles injury, had to
be helped all off. So we do have for the
Pacers sixteen points each off the bench for TJ. McConnell
and Benedict Mather, And in fact McConnell had the last
twelve points of the third quarter for his team. In
(01:43:11):
other words, nobody else scored in an eight and a
half minute span. Indiana got outscored by fourteen points in
the third, scorings about even between these two teams in
the fourth, but still a double digit lead for the
home squad led by MVP Shay gilgis Alexander Now from
three point range, he's two of eleven, but Sga, in
a game seven of the finals, has twenty seven points,
(01:43:33):
twelve assists and just one turnover. The Sons are trading
Kevin Durant to Houston. By the way, the Florida Panthers
Stanley Cup victory parade was today, including a rally at
Fort Lauderdale Beach Jacksonville Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter has signed
his rookie contract. He reportedly gets a thirty million dollars
signing bonus US Men's soccer two to one over eighty
(01:43:57):
at the Gold Cup Tournament tonight. The Americans play a
quarterfinal next Sunday. Alex Polot took the IndyCar Race. Chase Briscoe,
the NASCAR winner at Pocono LSU, won the College World
Series title, and by the way. In Major League Baseball,
the Yankees got three runs bottom of the eighth to
beat Baltimore four to two, while Detroit won nine to
three at Tampa Bay. The race second in the Al East,
(01:44:18):
now two and a half games behind the New York Yankees.
Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
The winner of the.
Speaker 8 (01:44:23):
Travelers by one stroke, Keegan Bradley in Connecticut. Notable this
tournament because it is a quote signature event, the last
one of the PGA Tour season, which means it's a
huge purse. Keegan Bradley claims a grand prize of three
point six million dollars today and the tie for second
(01:44:46):
gets a goal for almost two point two million. Jason
Day one of those who tied for fourth. That's almost
a million dollars. Scotti, Scheffler and Rory McElroy today tied
for sixth place. That's still seven hundred twent twenty thousand
dollars each. Capturing the Women's PGA min Lee Now she
had a final round seventy four but never gave up
(01:45:08):
the lead. It was a four stroke advantage to start
the day. She is ranked in the top twenty five
in the world. The purse from the LPGA for this
major is up from a year ago when it was
about ten and a half million dollars. Now it's a
record twelve million dollar perse so that matches the US
Women's Open for most prize money. The winner today takes
(01:45:29):
home one point eight million dollars, same amount she earned
for a US Women's Open victory three years ago. She's Australian.
Minji Lee though is a Texas resident and she wins
in Frisco, Texas today.
Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
Back to you, great stuff, Steve, appreciate that very much
and great work tonight. As always, it is Mark Willardy
from salam and we are live in the Fox Sports
Radio studios.
Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
So are you telling me that you're not allowed to
foul Luca either?
Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Is that what I'm hearing. No, Oh, that's what it
sounded like to me.
Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
Well, basketball foules, it's different. Okay, Now you can't throat
kick him. I mean you know what I mean, Like,
throwing a hundred mile an hour fastball at someone is
completely different than a hard foul going to the rim.
Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
But that's now that that wasn't the conversation, Like, yeah,
throwing the ball at anybody's head, I don't care who
it is is wrong, but like, don't do that to him.
Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Well, but but.
Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
He's special.
Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
If you're gonna throw at the padres, then they get
to throw at you.
Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Yeah, but don't throw it. Why would you throw at him?
Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Because that's your best player. That's exactly who I want
to throw at. You threw it our best player.
Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Yeah, but they throw Joe at him a couple of times.
Just f yi.
Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
I mean he got hit. He had hit a couple
of times, and he's got hit three times. Okay, so
he got hit what two times?
Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
Okay? All right? It was like the ahead, who.
Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Would you take if you're starting a team tatiste or show?
Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Hey, that's not the point.
Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
I just asked the question.
Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
That's not the point, of course, would Okay, then you
throw at him. Wait a minute, so now the it's
on the podre.
Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
Just messing around, all right, I'm just messing around.
Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
I mean are we Are we really supposed to?
Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Are we really supposed to in those emotional moments be
thinking about the greater good of the game.
Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Yes, it's really yes, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Who is the most elite pass rusher? You used to
go up.
Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Against Dwight Freeney?
Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Did you touch him?
Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
I tried to clip his body to them.
Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
That's bad for the game.
Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
No, it's not. Why it's the contact sport. There is
no contact in baseball like literally.
Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Now, well that's not true.
Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
None.
Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
When do you make contact with them? When you tag people?
Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Oh my gosh, so now tag is a contact sport.
Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
It is actual contact like tag contact. I mean you're
touching another person. There's content.
Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
You're not even touching them with your hand. It's a
glove like.
Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
I mean you contact the ball with the bat where
it goes boom boom. Anyway you get you you catch
my don't touch him?
Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
That that that would be uh, that would be something else.
That would be something else. If you could if you
could bubble wrap and uh and set aside and and
do all of those things in UH in Major League
Baseball in the emotional moments, I don't quite think that
that's realistic. So anyway, all right, we're coming down the
stretch here, NBA Championship, three minutes to go.
Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
There's still a Stones shins.
Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
In hell but not really Thunder up still by double digits.
Coming down the stretch here we will have the final
answer UH moments away here in the Fox Sports Radio
studios with e from Salam. I'm Mark Willard and this
is Fox Sports Radio. These are Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Oklahoma City Thunder are about to be NBA champions More
(01:49:15):
on that in a second. I don't want this show
to get away from us, though, without getting your thoughts
on something that may and after everything we've been through
this last year or two, everything with.
Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
The Sanders family.
Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
And quite frankly, you and I talked a lot about
this coming out of the draft in a way, I
mean the Shador Sanders story, with what happened at the draft,
maybe for the first time and this was almost a
welcome thing for a lot of fans out there. It
made him a sympathetic figure for the first time in
(01:49:56):
a while. Even though there wasn't really much of a
reason to root for Shador. Prior to all of this,
a lot of people were like, Okay, now I'm rooting
for the guy. Dude, dude, get the message the team
is giving you, get it quick.
Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
And put an end to it.
Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Two speeding tickets this month, one of them over one
hundred miles an hour, and skipping a court date off
of one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Dude, I think you're gonna win that job. I really do.
Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
But I'd close that chapter real quick if I were Shador.
Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
The problem is he may have missed his opportunity to
win that job. When you're late. He was only I
was only drafted fifty four picks after him.
Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:51:02):
So when you're a late I don't care what position
you play. You're a late round draft pick. You don't
have the reason I had the career I had, and
I was able to do because I did everything right.
I did everything right and it still was one of
the hardest things on the world to do. And I
(01:51:24):
was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
This is.
Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
A quarterback, a face of the franchise. You're fighting to
be the face of a franchise, and right now you
are the face of bodycam footage twice twice, and so
(01:51:52):
this isn't good. What we're not being privy to is
speculate they're having conversations upstairs about what happens if we
just release them. Wow, someone has brought that up upstairs.
(01:52:13):
Now we would never know the answer to that. But
someone on that staff, especially given the fact that the
coaches didn't he didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Draft him, right, he was told to draft him. So
someone is saying.
Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
See, this is why we didn't want to do that.
So how do we get from under this before it
gets worse? When you're a late round draft pick, I
don't care who you are and what position you play,
you never want that conversation to be had. You never
want them to talk to talk about you for anything
(01:52:50):
that has nothing to do with practice. Anytime the conversation
shifts to something happening off it's late to practice, late
to meetings, uh, speeding tickets like any any of that. Oh,
you're you're losing. And that's if your first round draft pick.
(01:53:12):
At least you know you got more chances as a
fifth round draft pick. There are no consequences for them
releasing you.
Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
You're only saving grace.
Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
Is such a dysfunctional organization, a franchise that it.
Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
You know, it's a good point.
Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
So that's your only saving grace. But outside of that,
I'm highly disappointed. Has Dion said anything about it? No,
wonder what that sounds like?
Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
What? What? What?
Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
What that like?
Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Where?
Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Where we? Where? Where are we? What's going on? To
do it?
Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Twice ninety one in a sixty five zone? Then failed
to appear. That's not that's not how you're doing it.
Speaker 8 (01:53:58):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
It's a privileged to be in a national football league.
Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
And then yeah, and then followed that up with a
citation for driving one hundred and one.
Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
This week.
Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
In my opinion, and people said, well, he's just he's
a kid. He's making mistakes. Yeah, you don't get a
chance to be a kid as a professional athlete, and
you really don't get a chance to be a kid
as a quarterback in a national football You have to
grow up well. And I hold this I was twenty
two years old.
Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
This might be unfair, but I hold Shadeur to a
higher standard because he's been a celebrity now for a
long time and grew up Sander's son.
Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
This is not new to him.
Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
So that's the problem. I'm having I'm having the problem
of you know, better fool me once.
Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
My man, they haven't even gotten the camp yet.
Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
You know, he may not even make it. It's a
real thing. He may not even make it. And I
know a lot of people out there like, oh, come on, man,
he made a mistake.
Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
It's not it.
Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
I wish people well, it's impossible for them to understand
it because not everybody can do it. But there is
a level of expectation for everybody who's drafted in that room.
The higher you get drafted, the more chances you get
to reach that expectation. The lower you get drafted, no
(01:55:35):
matter who you are, the fewer chances you have. Now,
what will be wild is if it was one more
incident off the field before camp, like if something else happened.
That's what happens when you burn through those those speed bumps.
(01:55:58):
That's what happens when you burned through that. He can't
do anything else, I wouldn't think.
Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
I mean, the Browns have already. You know, you're sort
of asking, like, what's been the follow up. I've not
heard anything from Dion. The Browns have had to address
it publicly and just said quote, he's taking care of
the tickets, so he's going to financially take care of those.
It's not right to a fourth degree misdemeanor. It's not like, no,
(01:56:30):
it's no, it's not, but the law right. But but
the point you're making is that prior to even getting
to training camp, the Browns are having to hold a
press conference ridiculous with regard to their fifth round draft pick,
their fourth string quarterback, and discipline.
Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
And you're not wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
Whether people agree with this or believe you or whatever,
teams don't put up with that.
Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
There's no reason for them to.
Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
No at all.
Speaker 4 (01:57:01):
And that's where he's put himself, especially at that position.
Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
I mean, do you realize how scary that is for
a multi billion dollar organization to hand over face of
the team duties. And this has already happened twice before
camp even opens.
Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Hey man, great stuff tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
And shout out to the okay, see thunder.
Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
We we we gave it a good try. We give
it a really good try. And shout out to Tyrese Halliburton.
Man that uh that's said that it is. It is
really sad. All right, great show tonight, Glad you're with us,
Stay right where you are because Plank and Spain. You're
our next
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I am a big fan of being open and honest
with everyone and just letting people know where they stand,
where I stand, where you stand, like, please be an
open book. I try to be an open book. I
don't know why people like this is the beautiful, beautiful
part about getting older. You can just tell people where
you stand. And if they don't like it, who cares? Right,
(00:26):
That's the beautiful thing about this. So from salam As,
we broadcast live from these Fox Sports Radio studios, and
this game seven is about to start. I think that
for the second or third time, you and I should
probably let people know where we stand. Right don't you
think we should be an open book?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I am an open book?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So I mean would you like to start? Would you
like me to start? Or how would you like to
what's that?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Please start?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay? So the pacers are about to play the thunder,
and your two radio hosts tonight are going to wrap
up the word objectivity and we're going to put it
into a box and we're going to wrap the box,
and then we're going to tape the box, and then
we're going to throw that box in the trash can.
(01:20):
That's what we're going to do. There is no objectivity.
Tonight you are listening live to two rabbid intense Pacers
fans as this game gets going, because all based on
a conversation that started on this radio show exactly two
weeks ago. Turns out that you and I and as
(01:40):
we talked about a little bit last week, we got
together on a transaction a transaction, and we thought maybe
maybe things were a little bit out of whack in
terms of how much of an underdog the Pacers were.
I don't know if necessarily we thought the Pacers were
gonna win, but were like, I think they gotta have
(02:01):
a chance. And these numbers are completely crazy. They're like
off the map, So like, I don't know, you want
to make this fun, and then you're like, let's make
this fun. I'm like, let's make this fun. And then
we're feeling very good about ourselves, and then we were
feeling very bad about ourselves. And now I'd like to know,
(02:22):
as we arrive at the final game, how you feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I feel good, Okay, I feel great.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
The thing we love about game sevens, and why game
sevens are so popular is because anything can happen. It
doesn't matter where you're playing, and of course it helps
if you're at home, but it doesn't matter where you're playing.
It's literally all right, let's see how this thing golos.
(02:51):
And it's exciting that the Pacers have to feel amazing
right now because there's.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
No pressure on them.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
There's no pressure, yep, all the pressures on the greatest
team to ever play analytics wise. I mean, they've they've
beaten people by a point margin and never seen and
this era of we all of the all of those things.
The PACER's just here, they're just we should We don't
(03:21):
even know. We aren't even supposed to be here. So
let's do something special.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'll tell you what, man, you come out of game
five and the Thunder win that one, and I don't
want to say going away.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It was going away in the end.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The Pacers, they made a run at them and they
cut that game to two points, and then the Thunder
went on a nice run to end the game. And
so they win, and they're up three to two, and
they look like they're dominant selves. They look like they've
navigated the PACER's best pitch and Tyres Halliburton is hurt
(03:58):
and it it felt like in the news cycle over
the next seventy two hours that they were prepping the
world for Tyree's not gonna be able to play, and
then Tyrese does play, and then Tyrese is effective enough
in a game that the Thunder appeared to have no
(04:20):
interest in playing whatsoever. And of all the surprises that
we've seen in these NBA playoffs and in this series,
I gotta tell you, Eve, the biggest surprise to me,
maybe of all, is how disinterested the Thunder looked in
winning Game six, with an NBA Championship ring sitting there
(04:43):
waiting for them, and a point guard star on the
other team who was not at his best, and they
came out and they were I mean, they were down
by twenty or thirty before most of us on the
West Coast could get home from work. I never even
really got to experience this game. I hustled home from work.
(05:08):
There was a big game that night in the WNBA
that night where we live here in the Bay Area, California.
Caitlyn Clark was in town, and so we had been
doing our show out at that game and coming home.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It was going to be a remote control night.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It was gonna be a toggle night because I want
to see what Caitlyn had for the Valkyries and what
the home crowd was feeling for that. But we also
had Game six of the NBA Finals, and by the
time I got to my couch, Game six of the
NBA Finals was not something anybody wanted to watch. The
Pacers had almost doubled what the thunder wor was gooring,
(05:45):
and I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean, there's a title waiting for you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, that was odd to me.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah it you know, it happens, man, It happens like that.
You can get punched in the mouth and you can
feel and think that you can get.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Up from it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
But let's not forget this is the second youngest team
ever to play in the finals. The only person with
any semblance of championship experience experience, including the coach, is Carusop,
So they may not even know how to respond or
how they're supposed to act. That's why this journey is
(06:29):
the journey. Now, if this is next year, it's a
different situation based on especially if they end up losing
this tonight to Endy. If they're in this position next
year again, like, that's what you've learned from. So someone
in the locker room was like, hey, man, don't forget
what happened last year. There's not a lot of that
out there. Second youngest team ever, average age twenty five,
(06:52):
and so this is part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
If they are able to pull this off, that's miraculous. Yeah,
it's miraculous. But you know, we'll see who's the rift?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do we see? Is it Scott Foster? Is?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Do we have the okay? Good? Good? Well that's good
because you can't.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
His nickname is the extender, and I don't think that
this series can be extended. I read the rules. It's
not allowed. So no Scott Foster necessary tonight. But I
tell you what I wonder immediately what you could do
to describe to people the weight of a one game
(07:33):
championship scenario, because in football, that's what it always is.
You don't get a series, you work your way, you
get once you get to the playoffs, you have this
weight every time you play. You've been to a super Bowl, Like,
what what is it? Because that's the one thing I
know everyone's looking at today. Everyone knows the thunder or
quote home better team favored.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But what I think we're all waiting for is who
looks like the weight of the moment is kind of
heavy on their shoulders.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
What did that feel like for you?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It was it was a surreal feeling. As the game
tips off and Indie scores right away.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's got to play from my hut.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It was a surreal feeling.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Because the thing about when I'm talking about youth, I'm
talking about it from experience. I was twenty two years old.
I was actually the youngest player to ever start in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
At the time.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And so for me it was nothing. It was like, oh, y'all,
don't do this every year. It was oh, you know,
this is my first experience in the NFL and here
we are in the super Bowl and I was too old.
I'll never forget our NFC championship game. We beat Minnesota
(08:53):
and Adam Adam Schreiber was our backup center and he
was on the ground weeping like a baby, and I
was like, Adam, we're going, We're going to the super Bowl.
Man was that he was like this, I've been in
the league fifteen years, right, I've never even almost came
close to this ever, And so it's those one and
(09:17):
done games. Man, it's nothing like it. It's nothing like it.
And you want to talk about ice in your veins
and things of steel. You have to be completely locked
in and you gotta let things that happen bad go immediately.
You cannot fester, you cannot wonder, you cannot get upset.
(09:42):
You just gotta let it go and move on. And
it's hard to do that when you're young.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Tell you what like, just you know, the the quick
and immediate observation as this thing get started, and you know,
bucket here or there whatever. What I noticed and what
I remember from the I think the last time the
NBA Finals went seven correct me if I'm wrong, But
was that Warriors Cavs. I think that's at least that's
(10:10):
the last time I can remember the NBA Finals going
seven games and the road team did win, as we know,
like Kyrie Irving hit the Big three down the stretch,
and I.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Just remember how low scoring that game was.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I think about when the Lakers played the Celtics and
everybody in the fourth.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Quarter missed all the shots.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh, everybody just missed all of the shots, right, So
what happens? I think the gravity of the moment is
immediately in the room, and the game is slower.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's a slower game.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Everything becomes more deliberate, everything's more stressful, and to a degree,
I find that to be.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
A little bit of an equalizer.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I think it's harder to blow someone out run away
from them because everything is so deliberate. And maybe you know,
my glasses are are are foggy on this one, but
I feel like that little aspect of this could be
potentially a little helpful to Indiana on this night, because Okay,
(11:20):
see when they play here, things get going downhill fast, yes,
and they run away from people and they build these
twenty point leads. And they might do that here in
seven minutes. I don't know, but I feel like that's
harder to do in game seven.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's it's gonna be one of these situations where you know,
you really just you gotta hope and pray you're on.
You gotta hope you're on. And basketball is such a
nuanced thing, as I have spent the last you know,
(11:58):
three weekends at basketball tournaments, including today again fighting.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Traffic to get back.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I got a whole and when we're doing storytime, I
got a whole nother story for that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Oh good, I can't wait. I love storytime.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's you know, halla Burton's out, he's hitting, He's hit
the three.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Like this is going to be a heck of a game,
and is glad we're doing it together.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's going to be a fight. You want to do storytime?
I'd love to hear storytime.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Let's do it when we come back.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, and so this game, it might as well
do it now before this game gets real crazy, Like
we're gonna take this thing all the way to the finish.
Our third hour is gonna be something else. We're gonna
crown an NBA champion tonight. And oh, by the way,
in something I found very interesting off the top of
the day, I.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Was like, ooh, is the league, Like, is the league.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
A little bit mad that the the Rockets and Suns
like don't upstage the NBA Finals like Game seven breaking
your old Kevin Durant trade right right on the same day.
That was a little bit eyebrow raising, but definitely want
to break that trade down with you as well. So
that is around the corner. Good Sunday evening to you all.
(13:07):
Glad you're with us. That's eight from Salama, Mark Willard,
and this is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
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Speaker 2 (13:24):
Halfway through quarter one pacers by one. This one has
a good look to it on both ends. So far
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you got a story for us?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, but I do want to just say, just fire away,
go ahead, go ahead. What do you got Just to
hit on what we were talking about earlier in terms
of nerves and all of that. What you will see
is like bench players and reserve players overpassing. Yep, nobody
wants to take the shot because nobody wants to miss
the shot. So there's been a couple of those situations
(14:23):
on both sides where there's a lot of overpassing and
I'm like, no, that's open shoting.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Oh okay, all right, I mean the pay's got to
come out and let that thing fly.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
You're right. The Pacers last possession, I think they had
about five open shots and they just kept before they
decided to just go ahead and do a shot clock violation.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Meantime, Caruso's come off the bench and let it go
two threes right away.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know why because he's been there before.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
He's been there before, and that's what we were talking
about in the first segment. That's the difference. When you
do have that.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Experience, it just it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You've been there, you've done it, You've one and so
you just fall right into place of what you've already done.
Now story time, So we have another tournament, made hoops
tournament my ten year old who's playing eleven U and
it's in Seal Beach, not around the corner from the house.
(15:20):
This is three weekends in a row where I have
to drive at least at the bare minimum an hour.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well to give people around the country context leaving your house.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No traffic California no traffic.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Is an hour no traffic.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I've had days where I've needed to go three miles
away and it was an hour no traffic. Okay, beautiful,
this is not this is the weekend. It's not rush hour.
This is not any of that. Oh no, oh no, oh,
oh boy, Tyrese. Haliburton is down. Haliburton is down, and
he is in tears and he is pounding.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Did he just tear his achilles? I mean, this was
exactly the worry. Watch it there, Yep, you see it?
You see it pop back? Yep?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Did Is that?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Is that? That?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
That?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That double click?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yep? Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You wondered that it looked like he just slipped and
lost the ball, but he knew immediately.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
He was pounding the ground. And the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
As a team are now all arm in arm and
surrounding Halliburton, who is down on the ground.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
And this is it is this unbelievable, awful, eerily reminiscent
of Kevin Durant in the finals against the Toronto Raptors
a number of years ago, when the same kind of
situation arose where.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
There was a calf strain and there was a conversation
about the risks and do we go for this?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Do we not go for this?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And he went forward and and he missed the next
basketball season and uh, and the Warriors obviously lost that
championship as well. And listen, you know you and I
have been in this conversation before. Don't want to act
like I'm a doctor.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Oh no, no, hey, look man, Pacers. Yes, I will
tell you that I know enough.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I would say a normal thinking human being at a
minimum right now is saying that the Pacers are doing
tonight without Halliburton.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And and I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Think it's a stretch to start even wondering if the
Pacers will be doing next year without Tyre's Halliburton too.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, that's what's.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Really scary right now.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's the is did the Jason Tatum thing just happen
again to another Eastern Conference team?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I don't know, man, that that is sad that that's.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Pops the balloon, doesn't it? Yep? There it is Pops
the Balloon.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And you know, yeah, I mean, like, gosh, there's so
many thoughts that that run through your head no matter
who you're rooting for tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But like, just even even if we whittle.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It all the way down. I mean, obviously the next
thing you think about is is just this organization and
this player and his well being going forward.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
But I also just think about what.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Like Game seven in the championship round is people's favorite.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Thing in the world.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Time didn't want to become a legend? Oh gosh, listen
to me. You want to become a legend, This is
how you become a Guess who you can ask about it?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Who? Nick Foles?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You can eat a man has a statue.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
If you want to become a legend, this is how
you do it.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Like Hostetler, Come on, it's there?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
What else it's there?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well? Yeah, has that ever happened in basketball?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Though? You know what I mean, I don't know. I
don't know who is Like, can we can we do this?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Can we just call calf strains what they are?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Uh, precursors to tornic? Can we just.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Achille springs because this, oh it's a cab. No one
wants to say the A word because it's like, oh,
so they put it on the calf. Calf is a
long month, so goes all the way up to behind
the knee. Look, Steve is watching it he can't even
Steve's about to fall out of his chair. Steve is
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about to fall. He can't even take it. TJ time,
TJ time. I'll save story time for after, Yeah, for after.
And you know what, Let's get to him early. Let's
bring him in now. I want to hear the emotion
he's updating with right now.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Wow, you guys are not wrong.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Exactly what we think happened just to happen on the
court and Tyrese Haliburton is done for the night and beyond.
This is Game seven of the NBA Finals. Oklahoma City
is leading eighteen sixteen over the Pacers. We got four
and a half minutes to go in the first quarter.
Halliburton had just become the first player in the history
of Game seven of the Finals to hit three three
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pointers in the first quarter. He had nine points in
seven minutes on the court, three to four from long distance.
It's not only reminiscent of the Durant injury, but it's
also very reminiscent of when Kobe Bryant tore his achilles.
Where the player is trying for that quick burst with
the ball, but his foot is so far behind him
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that you put strain on an already injured leg and snap.
It's eighteen all now, first quarter at Okce, where the
fans have not sat down, you know how they usually
stand for the opening tap and then finally when the
home team gets a bucket, they all sit down.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
No sitting down. Tonight, Game seven of the NBA Final.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Everybody goes home with a torn cow. Anyway, go go ahead.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
By the way, the Pacers franchise has won titles before.
They were ABA championships nineteen seventy sec and seventy three
they became an NBA team. Out of that, the thunder
franchise has won a title. The Seattle Sonics won the
NBA championship in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You get that one.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday, and my goodness, we
had a deal apparently today multiple reports saying the Suns
are trading Kevin Durant to Houston for Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks,
and a first rounder this week plus five future second
round draft choices. Durant is averaging twenty seven points a
game for his career. Among the five WNBA games Atlanta
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and Washington with wins, Las Vegas beat Indiana eighty nine
eighty one as Caitlin Clark and the loss had nine
eighteen points, tennis sists, eight turnovers from three point range.
She was one of ten LSU won the College World Series,
beating Coastal Carolina again five to three. They took game
one of the best of three yesterday one to nothing.
Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter signed. He reportedly gets thirty million
(22:18):
dollars as a signing bonus. Keegan Bradley won the Travelers
by one stroke. Minji Lee took the Women's PGA. US
men's soccer has tied one to one with Haiti on
Fox TV right now through sixty six minutes. At the
Gold Cup Tournament, alex Poalot took the IndyCar Race at
Roade America, Wisconsin. Chase Briscoe was the NASCAR winner at Pocono.
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In Major League Baseball, there's a tie for first in
the NL East between the Mets and Phillies. In Philadelphia,
the Phills are ahead of the Mets five nothing in
the top of the fifth. The Dodgers were down three
to nothing in the sixth, but came back to beat
Washington thirteen to seven. Sho Hee Otani pitched a scoreless
first inning with two strikeouts. And at the plate today
(22:58):
he had five RBI, a three run triple, and a
two run homer his twenty six And guys, can I
just say out loud that these MLB rule changes from
a couple of years ago, well, it's gone swimmingly, thank you.
It's such a better product compared to say, five years ago.
They didn't fundamentally alter the game of baseball. And they
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just deleted pauses, dead spots in the three hours of
the game to the point where I looked it up
for today, the Giants won their home game against Boston
nine to five. It took two hours forty three minutes. Wow,
for a nine to five game. Mariners won at Wrigley Field,
Chicago fourteen to six over the Cubs. That was two
(23:40):
hours fifty five minutes for a game with twenty runs.
Was under three hours in Anaheim, Houston eight an eight
seven winner over the Angels two hours thirty eight minutes,
and the Dodgers thirteen to seven win at home against
Washington two hours forty five minutes. Again in the NBA,
about a minute ago, in the first quarter of Game
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seven of the NBA Finals, OK see up twenty to
twenty over the Pacers, but Tyrese Halliburton out with a
serious injury.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Back to you, Steve goudstuff and thank you and E.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I mean again, we all know what we just saw.
Did you watch Tyrese actually exit the court?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that was as bout as hard to watch.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, and he's feeling on tonight. He was on, he
was he was on in his mind. I'm going for
forty Yep, I'm tonight. I'm giving him a forty point
triple double. That's that's how he came into the game.
That's how he came into shooting.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And when that.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Thing is snatched away from you, it's hard, man, it is.
This is probably going to be the most emotional he's ever.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Been in his entire life right now.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And the other thing like to get you there.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Well, I mean it just.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I think about these kinds of moments when like everything
everything just changes, like.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Your whole world.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And again, it's sports. It's not a car accident. Nobody
has passed away tonight. But you go from a moment
of this guy's Q rating has gone up higher than
any other player in the NBA, in these playoffs. He
is at the biggest rise and that's not arguable. And
you have taken your team all the way to Game
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seven of the NBA Finals. You're on the road, you
show up and immediately, as you just said, you're on
one like you've got an opportunity for a legendary performance.
And in one step. Now it's like, I don't even
think I'm playing basketball next year like that, Wow, what
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mentally and emotionally he must be dealing with right now
to me is overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, it's it's literally like it's literally you'd rather.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Be anywhere on any anywhere off the earth, anywhere outside
the atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's where you physically want to be.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
You don't want to look at anything, you don't want
to hear anything.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
The only thing that.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Almost saves this, almost is if they get this win. Oh,
that's the only thing they'll stop you from dipping down
into a form of depression.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Brother. And I'm telling you, it is real.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yep, yep, it is real.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
No, I believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I believe it because when you're talking about the physical
side of this also, like even just you know, we've
watched story after story of athletes talk about when you
get that close to a title, whether it be Game
seven of the NBA Finals, whether it's losing the Super
Bowl in a close game. You know, you think about
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the way the Eagles lost the Super Bowl a few
years ago to the Chiefs. You think about the Niners
with an overtime loss to the Super Bowl. You think
about the Atlanta Falcons when twenty eight to three, Like
when you lose a bass or a sporting event like that, Like,
guys have talked about how long it takes them to
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get over it, and in fact, we've started to nickname
the following year for teams like that Super Bowl hangover,
like it is very, very difficult to recover from stuff
like this. And so you're right, you know, winning this
game tonight would maybe ease some of the pain, but
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that is one hell of an order.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
And I would just say, you know, you joked a
minute ago.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Hey TJ McConnell, you want to be a legend, here's
your opportunity. You're not wrong. I would say the early
returns on the first three minutes not looking great, kind
of kind of looks a little bit like the first
ten minutes of the movie when it's like, oh God,
you know what I mean, he needs to teen wolf
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out here.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Sorry to age myself, but he needs to turn into a.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Wolf because the regular TJ McConnell immediately showed as someone
who looks like he's not going to be able to
help the Pacers get a good shot off on offense.
Oklahoma City's defense is real. And so he's a change
of pace guy and now he's just a pace guy.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, it's that's a different thing. That is, that is
a completely different thing when your role changes. Immediately everything
you got. People got to realize everything is. It becomes
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ritual everything you do. I know, at a certain amount,
at the four minute mark, I'm going in, right, I know,
at the nine minute mark, I'm coming out. So once
you change what your responsibilities are, and now you are
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the go to guy, not the spark, not the spark,
the go to guy. Now you have to give us
twenty five, not it's extra if you give us twenty five.
Now we need your twenty five. And in that shot,
the need and you know, the want and all that.
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It makes it a different shot.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
TJ's been in the league a long time, He's made
a career of effort. Just give the effort. Everything else
to fall into place. Just give the effort.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well here's the we're really searching. But you want your
silver lining and it's not so much of silver lining.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But what did you say off the top of the last.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Segment, you said, Look, game seven, you're on the road,
those role players, you got to let it flow. Hey,
you gotta let it hang out. You gotta just take
that fear and somehow bottle it up and leave it
in the locker room. Well, now, I mean, gentlemen, you
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have nothing to lose, and so I think that's what
you're what you're getting at, Like, just let it rip,
and if it sucks, it sucks. But there's there's nothing
to even think about out there.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
The world already thought you were gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Now those buses that went viral before the game, now
their engines are on. For those of you who don't
know what I'm talking about, there's a video circulating of
the buses that already say OKC Thunder twenty twenty five NBA.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Champions and.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know there they are in the back of the
bowels of the stadium.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Ran that ran into something like that when I was
playing an NFC championship game.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Did you Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
During the game that we were currently playing in the
third quarter, the announcer tells the people in the stands
in Minnesota where they can go to purchase their Super
Bowl packages?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Did you tell them where they could go? Oh? We go,
I'll tell you where you go with your super Bowl package? Yeah,
Atlanta Falcons dot Com. I'm imagining that's not what he said.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Good lord.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, but I got a question for you about that too,
because Rick Carlisle made a big deal about it in
the in the pregame media session, and then a lot
of people have been like, you all know that the
Pacers busses have already been painted to right. I mean,
that's like those T shirts World Series champions t shirts,
and they make them for both teams and then whoever
doesn't win, they send them off, you know, right, they
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send them off.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
To That's a that's a funny that's a funny movie.
I'm working on something to put in a movie about that.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I'll tell you a player, who, you know, a big
time player, was a supposed to win it all. He
didn't win it all, and he's haunted by that, the
fact that he didn't win it all, and so he
just needs to get away, get away from the game,
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get away from everything, and so he flies to the
furthest region of where he thinks, you know, he can
go and get away with it. And it's a whole
village of kids and adults running around with with the
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you know, the wyoming art barks World Champion shirts, shorts, everything, hats,
championship T shirts.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That never happened. Yeah. I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
By the way, because of tyre's' injury, your your story
time got interrupted and it feels like maybe we can
get to that coming up next. But we're early in
the second quarter. The Pacers lead by one, but their
star guard is out. We will keep you up to
date on everything as it unfolds. As we are crowning
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an NBA champion tonight. We'll get to the Durant trade
as well. We're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios
with me from Salama, Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, these are the Fox Sports Radio studios I
see from Salamo, Mark Willard. We'll get to storytime right now,
but I also tell you coming up at the top
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of the hour, E from I like this is on
the fly because I don't know about you. I know
what my phone is doing right now. All my phone is,
it's loaded right now with friends, with co workers. Everybody
is saying the same thing. Man, it doesn't work anymore.
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It's either the season is too long, it's too many games,
it's too many games close together.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I could just tell you what. I could tell you
what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I mean, I don't like.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
We can get into it. But the bottom line is
that's how fans feel right now. Fans feel like what
we're looking at is just not workable. There's too many
twenty something year old players. Who's I mean, forget it right,
Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry. Okay, but when the twenty something's
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bodies start blowing up here.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
So let me tell you, talk to me that they
didn't add more games. No, they did not say they
two games, right. They even have put in a couple
breaks in there with the end season tournament and stuff
like that. So it's yep, it's not like it's more
games going on.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's not more games.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
The difference is the way they're training now. Lee athletes
are in better shape all of that, to eat all
of those things.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But there is no time off.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
These younger athletes train twenty four to seven, get off
the season, come in train. Especially it's detriment during Olympic years.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Two of the guys who pull their achilles were on
the Olympic basketball team.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Correct. I mean Jason just watched but.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He no, no, he was there. You had to practice,
he had travel, had to do all of that.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
It was a joke.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
But yes, yeah, I got it. I got it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yes, yes, can't rip.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Me off my soapbox with humor. Okay, I'm sorry, let's go.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
And So what happens is number one, if you do
not allow your body to heal, it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Won't Yep, it won't like if you don't.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Probably the best thing that happened to Lebron is him
hurting his knee his moniscus at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, because that made him sit down.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Well, there are a lot of examples of what you're
talking about. We talk about it here in the Bay
a lot because three years ago when the Warriors won
the championship, their older players were hurt off and on
all year long, and in fact, Steph Curry got hurt
with about three weeks to go until the playoffs, and
then he came back right as the playoffs started and
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he looked rejuvenated, and they went and they went won
a title. You know, So like, I think that's what
we're getting that though, Man.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I know the guy.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
You know, my son and my nephew, they work out
with the NBA trainer. They the guys are in there
working all the time. So why don't they stop. They
can't because that's the culture they they were raised in aau.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Basketball is just basketball year round round.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I know it. I know it.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
My ten year old just played in three weeks. Let
me count in three weeks. My ten year old just
played twenty games. Yep, he just played twenty games at ten,
which is now having me like, uh, you know what, let's.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Just pull back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
I hear you, right, because now it's becoming work, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I sweet, we don't have time for story night.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Dang, it's this is a segue into my storytime. Okay,
But they it's NonStop basketball, training, working out, shooting, playing NonStop.
And if you don't allow when I play in football
is different. But after the season, I didn't do anything
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for a month.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
I didn't lift the weight. I didn't do a jog,
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
If I could well one whole month, there you go.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
If I could have a nickel for every forty or
fifty or sixty year old athlete who has told me
exactly what you're telling me, I wouldn't need to be
working here tonight.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Michael Thompson, who I used to do a show with
Clay's dad, he used to joke with me. I think
he was joking, but he was like, when the off
season came, He's like, I grab my basketball and suck
it in the back of the closet.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
That's that he goes, I go, I went and play tennis.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
There's no basketball in the off season, and you let
those muscles rest period. Well, then we need to have
we need to start having some more conversations about this.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yes we do.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
You know what I mean, and we need your story time.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So live in the Fox Sports Radio studios, that's what
we're doing with Mark wetherd and from salam More. Next,
you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Pacers are hanging in there.
Tyrese Haliburton lower leg injury. Yeah, we get it. We
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got eyes. Tyrese had the calf injury coming in that
thing popped after a tour. Itd start for him. And
right now the Indiana Pacers are hanging in there in
a game that now the thunder really really have to
feel like they're going to win.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And he from the world is all reacting.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The broadcast moments ago was showing all of the tweets
that were sent out by current NBA players and stars,
all of them sending up their reactions and and UH
and prayers to uh to Halliburton. But it's just a
bummer on all fronts because quite frankly, no matter what
happens tonight, no matter how this plays out, I think
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this is gonna end up being kind of kind of
the biggest story of the night. And and you know
what I mean, this is what everyone's gonna want to
talk about. And I think that the NBA is going
to really have to dig into what you're talking about
and and think about. Again, I'm not saying changes, but
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and maybe it's not the league. Maybe it's all of
these players, Like you got to think about the way
you're going about structuring. You said it so well it's
like everybody's in better shape, everybody eats better, but nobody
like this is the age of load management. What why
in the age of load management is this happening more?
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And I agree with.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
You, so fix it.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Stop playing all this stuff in the off season.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
It's hard because the guys get so used to it
now it's literally part of the culture, like their gyms
and trainers all over the place.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I mean, and it.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Starts young, it starts dead, nine and ten years old.
Twenty games in three weeks, yep, twenty games in three weeks.
It's like and then there's like a skills camp Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
and it's like, no, I.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Get it, and there's a fomo thing, and it's like,
if you're not doing it, you're falling behind. That's how
it feels to everybody.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
The reason why I look at it a little differently
is because I didn't play a sport until high school.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
It worked out, yep.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Literally, it's not how long you've been playing, it's how
fast can you close the gap. It's how fast you
can close the gap. So I started playing football my
ninth grade year. I was thirteen going on. I was
twelve one on thirteen skipped too great early on. That's
another story. But the thing was, there are people who
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have been playing for five years already, Pop Warner and
every other thing for five years. Literally they've been playing
almost their whole life. In one year, in one year,
I caught up. I ate up a five year gap,
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a five year head start in one year in football.
My second year, I got my first letter from a
college at fourteen. So in that one year, freshman sophomore year,
I made up a five year gap of youth sports, Warner,
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whatever it is. And so it's not so much how
much do you have to play and how you got
to get these in and someone's getting better. It's how
you're training and how how much and how fast can
you erase the gap? Now I was older, I was
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a teenager, so I could gauge how hard I needed
to work. I didn't have a dad. I had a dad,
but he wasn't telling me the secrets to be in
a pro We didn't have any professional trainers. All the
things our kids have access to now, specialized trainer he
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got trainers for shooting, got trainers for ball handling, got
trainers for change of pace.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
This is real.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Every day you go to a different trainer. Now you
fast forward.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
That and to being in the league for four or
five six that's just in the offseason, you go back
and work with those trainers. My son works with with
Olan at Guard You who trained Shay this past week.
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He worked with Lebron's trainer for when he was in
high school. This is real, and so when this is
the landscape of what's happening, and so when guys don't
allow their bodies to recover fully, I'm just gonna go
into the gym and put up to a shot, a
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couple of shots. Yeah, you're putting up a thousand though
in the offseason, you're putting up a thousand shots. And
I'm not saying don't work. I'm not saying that. What
I'm saying is take time off and you don't have
to push it every day. You got eighty two more
games coming plus a long playoff run. I don't care
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how good you eat, how much meat you don't eat,
or how vegan you are. Your body is your body.
Your body is your body, and it needs to rest.
And so you're seeing these younger guys, these younger athletes
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really pushing their bodies to the limit.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
And look, and.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
I mean, there's nothing you can do to strengthen your achilles. Now,
you can get your calf muscles strong and your quad
and all of that, but your achilles is your achilles,
that's right. Like you can't strengthen your acl for your
mcl right are your joints. You can strengthen the muscles
around your joints, but there's gotta be a time where
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you really have to and and and that's not an
Adam Silver's problem. He can't mandate GUIDs. Sit down, it's not.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
The more I listen to you talk, the more offended
I keep getting at something that has already offended fans for.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
A long time now, and it is load management.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
So it's like, you're telling me that you'll take days
off during the season to recover, but you won't in
the off season. Well, how stupid is that? No wonder
everybody used to play eighty two games and not have
a first class plane ticket or a private plane. But
(46:27):
they were able to do all of that without getting injured. Yeah,
because there was no Drow League. There wasn't seventeen different
World Basketball championships in the off season, and there wasn't
what you're talking about with AAU culture. And so again,
like this is going to come off just sounding like
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our opinion, and I guess it's nothing more than that,
But listen to what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And how stupid is this? How stupid is it that.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
We've got guys taking every second Thursday off during the
regular season, but but we can't get people, we can't
get people to rest.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
In August, chet Holmgren missed his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Why injury?
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Where yeah, over body Juliet against.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
No no, no, no, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
The Drew starts up in next the next couple of weeks,
and the Drew. I love the Drew, Love the Drew Drew.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
That that's an it's an incredible experiences for players.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
It's unbelievable. And I love the family. I know.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Then we're working with the Drew League and all we
got all kinds of stuff going on. Uh, you know
my life all you know outside of broadcasting, Yes, uh,
tremendous family has been run by the same family the
whole entire time, you know, looking for bigger and better
things to come. And so it's it's one of those
(47:58):
situations where you know, guys, really need that was a
bad call.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
This is a terrible call. This is terrible, terrible, terrible, real, terrible, terrible,
terrible flop. I'm so tired of it. I don't know
why the officials fall.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Why would that.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Completely a play on? And if it's not a play on,
it should be a foul on. Lou dort and a fingerwag.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
You just run across the path of someone.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Run good, Lord good, and then flop.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Your body to the ground.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
It should be more offensive to you than anybody on
planet Earth because you were an offensive lineman, like the
idea of when humongous athletic people get touched, they fall over.
It's literally what you built your job not doing, like
your balance, your core, your I am going to get
in your way, You're going to attack me, but I'm
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going to stay right here. I can't stand it, man.
We got a lot to fix in the NBA here
this offseason, Aphrom, It's a lot to fix, man. It's frustrating.
It is very frustrating. It's sad.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
I feel bad for Tyres as they're showing his family
back there waiting for him. It's just one of those things, man,
injuries happen. I've been on the other side of the
knife as well. I've had surgery and started a game
eleven days after search. God, so stupid. But you're built different.
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To be a professional athlete, you got to be built different.
You gotta be crazy. And that's why everybody can't do
what I'm telling you. Man, the physical attributes you have
to be a professional athlete, they're one thing, but the
mental toughness and fortitude completely, you gotta be bonkers.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Man.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
My kids, my wife is like, it's no way the
boys are playing football.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, it's all the table.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I know.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
You've told me for years, very adamant about that, that
you played football so they don't have to.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
It is you have to become a.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Psychopath, totally, totally.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
It's a hard, hard sport to do. It's harder to
do it for over a decade, one hundred I think
one hundred and fifty nine games I think I've played
in and my body feels it every single day that
I breathe. I've not had a day without pain. And now, look,
this is a bood who you know, the smallest violin
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in the world. But I just want to I'm saying
it to let people really understand the amount of trauma
professional athletes put on their bodies. And I'm talking about
all professional athletes, all of them. And so when you
do it for year after year after year, like I said,
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these kids, these younger guys have been playing since they
were seven, eight nine, NonStop, from seven years old all
the way up to in pro NonStop year round.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
It started off.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
You do soccer, and then you go to baseball because
though the two youngest, you can be the youngest there.
And then you switch into soccer goes away, and then
you switch into baseball and you can start basketball around
five and so now you're doing baseball and basketball, and
right around nine ten.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
You no longer are.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Checking for baseball, especially if you have any type of
skill in basketball. And at twelve is the definite cutoff.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
YEP.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
At twelve years old, you're either gonna be a baseball
player or you're gonna go play something else. And the
reason is because once you get out of little league,
you plan against guys trying.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
To go to the to the league, YEP, to the show.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
It's hard, and it's hard hard.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
Because those guys are all in YEP, they're all in
and you got I remember I'm a baseball coach.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
No, they're trying to get their TJ surgery as quick
as possible.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
So it's it's they're all in, and then you specialize.
Now you used to grow up. But we talked about
this a while. I can't wait till we talk baseball either,
because you know, I got some takes on what's going
on in baseball, and you were, you know, absolutely right
about the rules. Steve was talking about the rule changes
in house and enhance the game. We'll get there, but
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you stopped becomings. Pitchers could hit and field and pitch
and do all of those things. But once you get
around thirteen years old and you can pitch, hey, hey,
I'm just gonna have you go with the pitching coach. Well,
everybody go to the bad like it becomes a specialized thing,
(53:03):
no doubt. Like you're going to be it. Once you're
deemed a picture, then that's your path. You're going to
go be a picture. Right Like in high school you
may have you used to have quarterbacks who played safety
or quarterbacks who played you know, cornerback or whatever. It's
like yeah, yeah, yeah, no man, you just a little
league park in America, and the best picture is also the.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Best hitter, and then the best elder in the best everything.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
And then all of a sudden you get into college
and they look like they have their pants now when
they're trying to hit all of the sun.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
It's unbelievable. You're like, oh my god, what happened to you?
Speaker 4 (53:38):
That's what that it becomes specialized. That's what it youth
sports is. We're going to find the thing you do great,
and we're going to hyper focus on it to give
you a shot to go be a pro.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, I'm not into it, man, I gotta be honest
with you. I'm really not into it.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah, because I'm on this journey.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I hear you want to stary.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
We will get the storytime.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Pro will Actually, let's do it coming up next because
it's halftime and speaking you use the word bonkers, you're
ready for bonkers. The Pacers are ahead, it's halftime.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Can we catch out early option?
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh yeah? Can you imagine if this is a one
point game with a minute ago this?
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Can we cash out? Now?
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Look at this radio show ever, you know what, I'll look.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Look and see what we can take out. Now, I'm
a look I'm gonna long get a look right now
and then we'll go from there. Okay, storytime is next
when the Fox Sports Radio studios with e from Salama
Mark Willen, It's Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (54:43):
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Speaker 2 (54:54):
Live halftime in Oklahoma City eventful, to say the least,
the Pacers lead by one. Tyrese Halliburton's career has taken
a turn, and I don't think I'm overstating that he's
certainly out for tonight.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
It's one of those injuries.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Aaron Rodgers ask Kevin Durant asked where you could literally
see on the TV. You can see the calf and
the achilles pop. I don't want to go too far
with what this means for next year, but this appears
to have.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Every look of a long injury next year.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, for Tyrese Haliburton, this is a long term, significant injury.
But somehow someway one quarter without him and the Pacers
actually won that quarter. So hanging around, hanging around, but
a second half on the road of Game seven is
around the corner.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
But I'm kind of with.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
You, Like the longer this goes and it stays close,
the sphincter's factor takes over, and therefore it doesn't matter
what jersey you got on, and it doesn't matter what
building you're in. It just becomes nervous time. And so
a little bit of an equalizer. I think the third
quarter will be fascinating. The thunder could blow them off
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the court or this. We could be here all night,
so we'll see. We're in the five sports radio studios.
We're gonna we'll have an answer on an NBA champion
before we're done. So that's exciting. And then at long last,
we've we've been waiting for your story. I think we
should get to your story, all right.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
So, as you know, I've already said, you know, twenty
games in literally three weeks, no game is closer than
you know, one hour drive. And so this week's tournament
was in still beat the Mad Hoops tournament.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
And we go down and we.
Speaker 4 (57:03):
Have two games yesterday, not too bad, one at one
what was it, one forty five and the other one
at four fifty five. The breaks in between are deadly,
and then our Sunday morning game got switched to eight am.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
At six am I have to wake up, wake a
ten year old up. I can't even make him eat
at six fifteen am. Who's eating at six o'clock in
the morning at a ten year old in the summer.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
That's a nobody.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
So I had him.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
Put his uniform on, put a sweat to his sweats
and his sweatshirt on. I got his favorite pillow and
a blanket, took it to the car and you know,
let him lay on his blanket and his pillow in
the car seatboat. Of course we get down there. It
takes the whole first half of them to wake up.
Just two teams full of zombies, just of course, going
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back and.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Forth with each other. They end up winning. Was a
good game.
Speaker 4 (58:19):
Then we played at eight am. Then we played again
at twelve twenty pm. Okay, I'm like, bruh, where do
we supposed to do for five hours? And seal Beach
(58:43):
just far enough for you, don't for you not to
come home right right, not far enough to get a hotel.
Speaker 6 (58:50):
No.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
I think that the business owners at the mall set
the times for these games out of control.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
I swear they know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
Twenty dollar apart, yep, forty eight dollars weekend fee. Come on, man,
eighty five dollars tournament fee.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (59:10):
Six hundred dollars shoes. Everybody got out of Kobe's you
know how Kobe's already get geez.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
You're triggering.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
I'm just letting you know, man.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
And so right now, I love it when people pay
thousands of dollars for their kid to play, and then
you arrive at the tournament and they're like, yeah, that'd
be like twenty five dollars for you to come in here.
What do you mean twenty five dollars for me to
come in here? I funded this damn tournament already. I
own this tournament.
Speaker 4 (59:38):
It's a racket. I got to get one of these gyms.
We were looking in the one, though we are, we're
looking in the one to put over here.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
I'll buy into it. If the pacers win.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Right there we go, I like it.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Oh oh before I yeah, let me finish and then
we'll get to the other partner. And so the third
game was at two thirty. We're on the end at five.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yes, So.
Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
I gotta get out of there by no later than
three forty to get here on time. As I'm driving
the speed limit, of course, with precious cargo in. My
ten year old who's upset in the back playing the
Nintendo switch to not the one, the two because he
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didn't play well in his opinion. Well, they were playing
against eleven year old who I'll send you a picture
and you tell me.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
How old this young man is.
Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
Oh god, yeah, I saw him drive the kids. I
saw him.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Oh gosh, he bought beer at halftime.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Go ahead, I'm sending you this picture right now, gonna
blow your mind, all right. And so I'm driving. I'm
coming up, uh getdy, you know, almost to where we
need to be, and a car and the car in
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front of me goes over this plywood and it floats,
It flips it up in the air. So there's a
giant piece of plywood floating in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
The air towards the front of the car.
Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Oh smash, no boom, plywood explodes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Oh god, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
So I'm like, oh my god, I get here in time.
I go look in the front of my car and
the front it's an electric car. Yes, So the whole
front grille is like a solar unit with cameras, all
kinds of stuff in there.
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
The emblem is just hanging.
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Down this plywood stuck between my bumper, my bumper as
a hole on the left.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Hey man, do I talk this up to the au
journey as well?
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yes, you do?
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
This is these are the kinds of things that happened,
uh in these in these situations.
Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
So now that was the beginning of the show. I
was filling out my mobile claim for all State. Okay, hope, hope,
hopinging it's going to protect me from Mayhem like that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Speaking of Mayhem, lou Dort just hit a.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Uh yeah, that was crazy. What the hell was that?
That was crazy?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Uh, you could have called all State. You could have
called Triple A. You could have called Steve de Seger.
Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I would have preferred him.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
You you, You.
Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Could have done that and and and that I've learned
would probably work as well. It's a problem. So so
let's go. Let's go see Steve de Seger.
Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
There he is.
Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
I will listened to said claim.
Speaker 8 (01:03:07):
But you're right, it probably would work just as well,
which is not good for anybody. We got ten minutes
to go, third quarter at Oklahoma City. This is Game
seven of the NBA Finals. The Thunder now up fifty
four to fifty one on the Pacers. The huge news
that Tyrese Halliburton of Indiana left in the first quarter
with an achilles injury had to be helped off the court.
(01:03:27):
He had nine points early on three three pointers. Leading
scorer for his team has now passcal Siakam with thirteen.
You had mentioned early in the show that these Game
sevens of the NBA Finals tend to be slogs, and
in fact, with a score of twenty five twenty two
after the first quarter, that was actually the highest scoring
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first quarter of any Game seven of the Finals in
the last forty years.
Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
So yes, proof of point.
Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
Indiana in the finals for the first time since two thousand.
Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
They have not won an NBA title.
Speaker 8 (01:04:01):
The Thunder franchise moved to OKC in two thousand and eight.
They made the finals twenty twelve, but have not won
an NBA title since the move. The Suns are trading
Kevin Durant to Houston for Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, and
a first rounder this week, plus five second round draft choices.
The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday. In the WNBA wins
(01:04:23):
for Seattle over New York. Wins for Atlanta, Washington, and
Las Vegas, which beat Indiana eighty nine to eighty one.
Caitlin Clark in defeat nineteen points, tenn assists, eight turnovers.
Keegan Bradley won the Travelers by one stroke. In Connecticut,
US men's soccer has beaten eighty two to one. The
Gold Cup tournament is on Fox and FS one. The
(01:04:43):
Americans will play a quarterfinal next Sunday. Alex Plot took
the IndyCar Race at Roade America in Wisconsin, his sixth
victory in nine events so far this season. Chase Briscoe
was the NASCAR winner at Pocono. Denny Hamlin was second.
LSU won the College World Series for the second time
in the last three years. They beat Coastal Carolina again today,
(01:05:04):
five to three, after taking the opener of the best
of three series yesterday one nothing. That win yesterday ended
Coastal's twenty six game winning streak. They'd gone two months
without a loss. In Major League Baseball, Tonight, the Phillies
are hosting the Mets. Those two are tied for first
in the NL East, but not for long bottom of
the eighth. The Phillies are up seven to one on
(01:05:26):
New York, and the Mets today sent catcher Francisco Alvarez
to triple a. He struck out thirty eight times in
thirty five games.
Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Dodgers beat Washington.
Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
Thirteen to seven, even though LA was down three to
nothing in the sixth inning, Max Munsey with a grand
slam and a three run homer. The Giants are second
in the NL West, still three and a half games
behind La. Padres, still five back. Giants won their game
nine to five over Boston. The Padres with a run
in the bottom of the ninth, get a one run
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win three to two over Kansas City. Colorado beat Arizona
four to two. The Rockies record now eighteen at sixty
wins on the road for Cleveland and Houston, and the
Yankees scored three in the bottom of the eighth to
edge Baltimore four to two. Orioles catcher Adlee Rushman is
likely out through the All Star break with a strained oblique.
In the NBA, they're at a timeout right now, nine
(01:06:20):
to twenty to go, third quarter of Game seven of
the Finals at Oklahoma City. Thunder leading fifty six fifty
one over the Indiana Pacers. Each team shooting forty one
percent from the floor. In fact, Okse, the team that's
in the lead from three point range is five of
twenty three and one final note on the College World Series.
(01:06:40):
I don't know if you saw it, but in the
very first inning of the last game of the season,
the Coastal Carolina manager was thrown out for arguing balls
and strikes and his first base coach was tossed in
a similar argument two for the price of one in
the first standing of the final. The explanation afterwards was that, A,
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of course, you can't argue balls and strikes, and after
you get a warning, it's immediately an ejection. After you
you keep going after it. His again, I have to
emphasize his explanation. The Coastal Carolina managers. I may have
heard a warning, but then his sentence after that was
(01:07:27):
you've already blown three calls out.
Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
He went back to.
Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
You, Yeah, I got feelings about this. I love that
you brought this up, Steve. And apparently also I guess
the guy's name is Kevin Schnall. Maybe has now already
been they've already levied some sort of a two game suspension.
Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
For next year.
Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah, for next year for quote bumping. Now I watch
the highlight.
Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
No, an umpire tripped.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
That's not a bump. That's a dude that tripped over
his own feet and fell on his butt. That's what
that umpire legs in the air the hall. It was tremendous.
It was worthy of a cartoon. That umpire went flying, truly.
Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
The essence of the unathletic.
Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Beautiful, yes, completely uncoordinated and uh and went all the
way down, all the way down and landed on the butt.
And and now they are suspending the Coastal Carolina head
coach because of this maneuver. I get bothered in major
(01:08:32):
games when people get thrown out for words.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I agree with that, and I and I realized that
there is at a certain point it's like, okay, that's
enough words. We've got to move on. And somehow you
have to move on. So I understand that. But I
think it's funny when people go ooh, he must have
said the really bad stuff. I'm like, y'all realize nobody
else heard it. I have no idea what the difference
(01:09:01):
is between bleepity bleep and right. And I hate you.
You meet ball sandwich, like there's no difference. Nobody can
hear them. I think umpires and referees and and all
of this they need. They especially in baseball, they need
like thick skin training. Man, it's your job to walk away.
(01:09:24):
You need to go touch the outfield wall. Go touch
the outfield wall. But we're not throwing out head coaches
in an elimination championship game in the first inning because
of words.
Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
That's stupid, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
And speaking of baseball, can we just agree that, you know,
not a lot of diehard fans are gonna be like,
wait a minute, but the Dodgers are really uplifting baseball
right now in a major way. Well, explain the word uplifting.
(01:09:58):
I think I get where you're coming. I didn't want
to say saving, okay, so I chose uplifting it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
The level of excitement sure surrounding that organization. Did you
watch that? I'm sure you did that Padre's Dodger series.
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Oh beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I'm you want to talk about must Ce TV?
Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, Now, I don't know if what you're saying is
what we need? Are more managers? Like we need more
sixty two year old people chest bumping each other. Funny,
it's funny.
Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
But I remember last year around this time I had
the same sentiment about the Dodgers Yankees.
Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Yep, you did a series, and I.
Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Said, wouldn't this be amazing if this was if this
was the World Series? And what happened it was.
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
The World Series World Series.
Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
A lot of people were like, well, the Padres aren't
really do tell that to them, Tell that to the
Dodger Tell that to the Padres.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Oh no, they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
They Yeah, And in that playoff series last year, that's
how that's how rivalry starts. And so it was. It
was such a good showing on the on the on
the on the mound. It's just the energy that for
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those first five hitters could that lineup.
Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Doesn't quit and people don't realize that, Like they're sitting
there in first place with a really good record and
their whole pitching staff is gone, is gone, so like
pitch today right right, Well that was because they are
nine rounds or something. But but yeah, the point is
is in theory, they're they have one of the best
records in baseball and and they should get a lot better.
Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
They should get a lot better here real soon.
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, it's it's it really, they.
Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Are are are.
Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Really you know hitting in the time where you had
the NFL Draft, you had to you know, the playoffs,
NBA playoffs for them to be playing even the National
Series today. That game today was crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Yep. Yeah, They're down three to nothing about halfway through
the game.
Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
And they grand Slam in the seventh.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
By the time you get to the night Lightning, they
got a position player pitch and the thing was going on.
Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
But that's the excitement that the amount of runs being
scored now by these franchise I think is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I think that's what you need.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Tell you what lots to get to.
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We're live in the Fox Sports Radio studios. I mean
you said it earlier, TJ McConnell time, he's potentially having
a little bit of a moment. He's keeping it, he's
(01:13:37):
keeping it in it there for a moment, he's bawling.
But the Pacers are down in the third quarter. Halliburton's out.
If you're just joining us, TJ.
Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Time, Halliburton is.
Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Halliburton's not in this game, and we firmly believe that
Halliburton will not be in any games next year either,
And so that's kind of a bigger NBA issue that
everyone's talking about tonight.
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what'd you think of the what'd you think of the
Kevin Durant deal?
Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
I was like, Wow, but that that that's crazy to
me because it is what.
Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
One first round draft pick in there?
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
One this year's number ten overall pick. It also included
Jalen Green and then Dylan Brooks. You got to get
the salaries to match. Those are the players, and then
the tenth pick in this year's draft that's Wednesday, and
then five future second round second round picks.
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yes, yeah, what'd you think that?
Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Uh? I thought it would be much more than that.
I thought, at least, you know, it'd be multiple first
round draft picks. But look, I don't know if it's
more about hoof these turnovers? Boy goodness gracious, that's how
they get you. Then they feed off these turnovers. Gotta
(01:15:33):
take care of the ball, you know, I thought he
would fetch more. How about the fact that I don't
think Phoenix wants Jalen Green. I think they're looking to
ship him somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
It's interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Oh yeah, that's what happens when you're in the playoff,
your number two seed, you're in the playoffs, you're supposed
to be to go to guy, and you're benched in
the fourth quarter in multiple playoff games.
Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
That's a.
Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
That's a uh to hold the mirror in front of
the face type of situation, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I mean, here's here's what I would say. My first
two takeaways are. Number One, the Rockets are a legit
title contender next year. Yes, when you combined Kevin Durant
with the youth and an athleticism and now got a
little playoff experience too. Shan Goon, I'm in Thompson Thoms
you know what I mean, Everything that that Houston is
(01:16:40):
going to have to be able to throw at the
at the league. Now, I think that they are a
true title contender. And what Phoenix is is a cautionary tale.
That's a cautionary tale. The Phoenix Suns. They got hosed
on this deal. But they didn't get hosed on this
deal today. They got hosed on this deal last offseason
(01:17:04):
when they decided not when it was painfully obvious to
everybody watching that they had to move on from one
of their high priced stars. It wasn't working. They were
way too hop top heavy. Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal, Devin Booker.
I was convinced they were going to trade Kevin Durant
(01:17:24):
last year, and as soon as that story was coming
together there they were to hold a press conference, and
no doubt, they were led by their owner Matt Ishbia,
and the press conference was basically to kiss Kevin Durant'
butt and tell him this team's gonna all be all
about him next year, and off we go to run.
Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
It back and do it again.
Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
And you didn't even make the play in tournament with
three of the highest priced players in the league. It's embarrassing.
And you led yourself down a road now trading him
when everyone knew you had to trade him, and therefore
you got pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Devin book are somewhere really day drinking right now.
Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
The Phoenix Suns are back to who they used to.
Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Do, just out there day drinking, look looking for some help.
They're back to who they used to be Man, Hello,
darkness friend.
Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Well, that's that's.
Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
That's what happens next, right, Like that's like count three
to two one before Devin Booker makes a phone call
and says, get me out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Got to I mean? And he is mister Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Right, that's the guy they want to keep. That's the
guy they want to keep. All right, we are dangerously
close to it, looking like this is going to be
the thunders ball game. But we'll head into our final
hour and crown a champion one way or another. Much
more to get to coming up next on Fox.
Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 10 (01:18:55):
Can I read you what I wrote? I want to
read you what I wrote. I want to read you
what I wrote. All right, let's do it, Okay, I
want to read you what I wrote. Thunders up by
thirteen started the fourth quarter. There's no Tyrese Halliburton.
Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Optimism is on life support for the Indiana Pacers. So
you could make the case that the timing of what
I wrote is based on that.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
You could, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
And I think that this is capturing where a lot
of NBA fans are tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
As Tyrese Halliburton is out, he absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
One without me being a doctor, I don't know how
this is anything but a torn achilles. You watched it
pop right there on National TV. And so now, from
Dame Lillard to Jason Tatum to Tyrese Halliburton, three of
the top star guards in the Eastern Conference are all
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likely going to miss next year as well. And so
add that in to kind of the rest of what
we see in the NBA right now, and we're live
in the Fox Sports radio studios. Here's what I wrote,
and I want to know what you think of this.
I wrote, from the injuries, to the load management during
the season that they won't do in the off season,
(01:20:17):
to the flopping, to the foul baiting, the NBA, which
I love, is becoming a frustrating watch.
Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Okay, I can see your frustrations.
Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Yeah, I just think that there's so many and I
know that you'll say that this is simplifying it, but
I feel like there's a lot of fixable problems that
aren't being fixed. And that's what kind of gets me.
Everything in life has struggles, Everything has problems. Some people
(01:20:51):
don't believe there's anything, but there's no such thing as problems.
Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
They're just opportunities. For growth or whatever like. But when
when you're looking at this, when you're.
Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Watching officials constantly getting fooled, just constantly getting fooled, superstar
players who have basically been consistently rewarded for falling on
the ground rather than trying to score the basketball. And
(01:21:24):
then what I think is really the crux of the
issue you've brought up tonight with Haliburton going out, and
that is a fact that these guys will take Tuesday
Night off on TNT, but they won't rest in August.
And that's why as bodies get bigger, stronger, faster, more talented,
(01:21:46):
and more aware of their health, more of them are
getting hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Yeah, And so the NBA champion often.
Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Over the last handful of years feels less like the
NBA champion and just the team that lucked to the finish.
Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
With their players.
Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
War of attrition, That's what.
Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
It feels like. And I'm not saying that the Thunder
aren't the best team. They've been the best team all year,
but they're also the only one left with their players,
is it?
Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
They're the only ones left?
Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
So sometimes I've got to be lucky, man. Yeah, sure,
that's always part of it. Yeah, So I'm not mad
at that. I'm not mad that it looks like the
thunder who are now up by sixteen, are going to
win the NBA title.
Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
I just think that there's.
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, I think there's a lot in the NBA that
leads us down the road of screaming on social media
and calling for you know, oh, conspiracy theories and all
of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I get it. I get why people feel that way.
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I don't buy it, but I get why people feel
that way.
Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Look, this year in the NBA, and I know these
ratings are historically low for finals, but this has been
a good year in the NBA. It's been a good year.
We had some movement that we had never seen before
and never thought we would even.
Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Ever see.
Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
And so, you know, just things like that add to
where we are now or to essentially newbies about to
be crowned. Somebody's gonna be crowned NBA champion, and you know,
(01:23:42):
if it were the Pacers, I think it'd be the
first time that the team was crowned and won the
NBA Finals without a true like number one star. And
it goes to the level of teamwork that you know. Now, No,
it's not about it's shifting away from you go get
(01:24:03):
these three stars right, and you have to now build
out a team. You have to build out guys who
can actually come off the bench and do something, not
run around for three minutes so your stars can rest
and then come back and go back to the bench.
Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
You have to literally put.
Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
A team together.
Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
And I like that aspect of it because now in
the last seven years we've had a different champion, and
so I think the parody in the league boats well
for small market teams Indiana. Okay, See, if you draft
well and develop, then you have a better shot than
(01:24:44):
going out and spending a bunch of money on free agents.
Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Yep, I agree. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, I agree with you on that front. If this
could get more parody to the show, if this could
get more teams in the mix, I like that. Like
I could sit here today and I bet, especially with
the injuries and the unknown about trades and whatnot, I
bet I could like sell you on the idea of
(01:25:11):
almost ten teams who have a shot next year.
Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
And I've never felt that way in my entire life.
Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
No, but for a long time we've been dominated by dynasties, right,
you know, eighties, nineties, two.
Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Thous hello, I mean all of them.
Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
So yeah, this is a you know, essentially a new
NBA and it's going to take a minute to get
used to it. But look what's on the horizon. We
got the Cooper Flags getting ready to come into the
league and it's exciting. The league is now more global
now than ever before. People are able to watch all
(01:25:48):
over the world, whether you have you know, satellite or not.
Now you're getting to stream the games. It's a global game.
Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
We have more international players. When the last time an
American born player was even considered for the MVP. That's
taken some time to get used to for sure. But
the last seven eight of them haven't even been from
this country, right, And for those who don't know, Shay
is from Canada, he's not American.
Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
You're not like us.
Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Nope, no, you're not wrong on that. That's and that's
zoom out, big picture, all of that stuff. I am
really fascinated with the big news of the night, which
is not going to be the thunderbus, and the fact
that you can get darn close to you know, turning
(01:26:40):
the ignition and fired up and you know, they're like
they're up sixteen, ten and a half to go. I
know it's the Pacers, so maybe they'll come back for
one guy. The key to that, Yeah, he's out there.
That's the lead story of the night. That's the lead
story of the night, which is Halliburton is out. And
I'm very, very locked in on the point that you're making,
(01:27:02):
which is that these guys don't rest anymore. This is
cultural in the sport of basketball. And then you combine
that with the fact that they do rest during the season,
and I think fans a have a right to be upset,
and b the league has a right to be very
concerned because you can say this is a great year
(01:27:25):
because of parody, because of the international contingent.
Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
You're not wrong on any of that.
Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
But any sport will tell you that the worst thing
that can happen to it is for its stars to
not be available.
Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Oh yeah, that's in any sport. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
That is the number one.
Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
And we have got like I can sit here today
and already tell you without even playing the first game
of next year that there are three stars who will
not be available. So that's that's not a good thing.
And I don't know how you address it, because we
don't even have majority opinion on what's causing it, even
(01:28:06):
though I agree with your thinking.
Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
You know what, another thing that I've just been watching,
Kobe Bryant did something to the game of basketball that
is now the standard. He changed the type of shoes
people wore. So now all of the shoes are low top,
(01:28:34):
and so every basketball shoe pretty much essentially.
Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Is a low top shoe.
Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
That never was the case before. It was either quartertop
or high top correct right for ankle support achilles support.
Remember when Kobe came back from his achilles injury, he
no longer wore the low tops. So I don't know
if there's any correlation there, huh. But just look at
(01:29:06):
the footwear that's going on out out there right now.
Everybody's got on Kobe's or low tops or every every
basketball player now has a low type basketball shoes.
Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
If you look fast, they look like running shoes.
Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Would you ever if you went to the gym or
to the park and somebody was playing in running shoes,
you wouldn't play with them because they leedle to do anything.
They liable to do anything you are doing some A
six Yes, there's no telling what you're gonna do. So look,
and I'm not saying that is the reason, but I'm
(01:29:40):
just saying that things that make you go hmm.
Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
So you know, I don't have the scientific.
Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Uh uh discovery to back up that hypothesis, but I
can't be far off.
Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Maybe maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Yeah, I mean, listen, we got to listen to uh,
listen to every idea right now because this is a threat.
Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
This, this is a threat.
Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
In fact, i'd love to run this by you since
you were just talking about the Dodgers. There's a major
baseball voice this week, John Hayman on MLB Network. Essentially
off of that Padres Dodgers brawl or bench clearing incident.
Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
It wasn't really a brawl.
Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
A couple managers got some you know, bumped their man
boobs up against one another, but whatever. But off of
that incident, there was a point he made that is
related to the point we're making about a game missing
its stars. And it was a controversial take and I
(01:30:48):
would love to hear if you agree with it. So
we'll get to that coming up next with e from
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my I don't, I don't. I don't think we're going
to win. I don't think we're going to win? What
I don't think we're going to win?
Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
Did you see what we could have cashed out for?
That was your mission to do an option?
Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
It was not an option? Okay, no, no I did,
I did. I went on.
Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
I don't think you have I know I did. Oh no, no,
oh no, I did. At halftime I looked.
Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
It was not allowing us an option.
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and span your and they can celebrate the Oklahoma City
(01:32:31):
Thunders likely championship, still just down seventeen with six minutes
to go, and they are the pacers. So who knows,
but it looks like okay, so he's got this thing.
I wanted to run this by you. I don't know
if you heard this this week. So for those who
(01:32:51):
didn't follow the Dodger Padre dust up, you know, it
was four games of going back and forth and Fernando
Tatis got hit three times in four games, and by
the fourth game, these two teams, who already didn't like
each other, were really.
Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Really ticked off at one another.
Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
And so when Tatis got hit late in that game,
oh my god, the.
Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Padres turned around and threw one.
Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Up at the upper portion of Sho heo Tani. And
one thing, just one quick observation. I was pretty impressed
with show. Hey, so it was good. So you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
That man was like meditating in the middle of all
of this.
Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Was like no, no, no, it's fine, right, Like the
it was almost as if the dugout was like, we're
coming and he just he put his hand up as
if he was Darth Vader, and everybody just stopped, and
he was like.
Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Like was climbing over the gate, and I'm like, where
are you going?
Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Where you? Yeah? Where are you going? Old man?
Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
But show he holds his hand up like, obi, wan,
these aren't the baseball players you're looking for, and just
walks off to first base. Okay, So I'm impressed by
that number one, but number two. John Hayman on MLB
Network the next day, and I'll paraphrase essentially, he says, Look,
(01:34:23):
I'm not in favor of throwing at anyone, but this
stuff happens in baseball, and so if you get to
that point where you feel it is an absolute necessity, okay, fine,
but not him anyone else. So you could throw at someone,
(01:34:44):
you could even throw it Freddy Freeman, but you can't
throw at him because he is too important to the
success of this game as a whole.
Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Therefore you cannot risk hurting him.
Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
WHOA, I mean, what is your reaction to that. The
ladies of the w n B A don't feel that
way about.
Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Don't That's that is a great that's one comp Yep,
they sure don't.
Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
Right the NFL changed the rules to protect Tom Brady
and Patrick Mahon and Patrick Mahoon. Yes, yes, uh so, Yeah.
I mean he is the face of baseball, and he's
gotta be like the nicest guy ever, like, strikes out, nice,
(01:35:36):
hits a home run, nice, still the bay's nice, quails
brew haha, nice. I mean he's he's got to be
the coolest guy on the planet.
Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
He's pretty easy to to like.
Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Yes, I don't know if feels that way, but go ahead.
Well he not in jail, No, he reported.
Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
This week. Where where were where?
Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
You know? Jail?
Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Where Whi's one?
Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
I'll look it up, Okay, I'll look it up.
Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
Maybe we'll give Steve some homework before we bring him on.
Where's Epe in jail?
Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Pennsylvania. Homework done? Yeah, Pennsylvania. How long?
Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
How long is he in?
Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Fifty seven months?
Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
That's cushions, that's cushy.
Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
That's uh yeah, little less than five years.
Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
He'll be out in one and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, federal.
Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Cushiony mattress full of.
Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
He is at the Federal Correctional Institution alan Woodlow a
low security.
Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Very low.
Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
There's no gates, there's no there's no's no fences.
Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
No, no.
Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
I saw him at Subway getting the meatball sandwich about
about halfway through the first day. Yeah, No, he's fine,
he's right anyway you buy this. You're a football player.
You telling me that one guy has to be put
in glass?
Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Really?
Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Yeah, because he does something no one in the league does.
Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Right now, when you.
Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
Have something that no one else is doing protected.
Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
He has not been doing that for over.
Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
A year, but now he's coming back.
Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
Okay, So do you want to throw at the shoulders
of the next.
Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Well, I don't. I don't like throwing at the shoulders
or the head.
Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
You can't throw it, man, I don't. I don't like that.
No matter what we're talking about. You want to send
a message. It hurts like hell to get hit in
the ribs. And don't tell me that fastballs from major
league pitchers that they don't know where they're going.
Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
He hit him at one hundred miles an hour, Yes
he did.
Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
And that's completely dangerous and somebody could literally get killed.
So like, no, I'm not in favor of that, but
I'm not in favor of it for Freddie Freeman or
Mookie Bets.
Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
No, of course, not any or any player. No one
on the Dodgers, because I'm a Dodger fan.
Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
No one on any of the teams from Oh I mean,
I mean maybe the athletics.
Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
I don't even know if that counts, but do you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Yeah, Like, no, I'm not in favor of high and tight,
but I'm also not in favor of eliminating one player as.
Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
If he he like, no, do you like to the padres?
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Fernando Tatis is a massive cash cow if you're gonna
hit him three times.
Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
And man, when he gets hit, he is like somebody
shot him out of a rocket, right. He almost does
a backflip at the plate. I'm like, bro, really, hey.
Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Man, okay, hey, everybody's a showman.
Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
He's going to hurt himself in the reaction, right. But
but that's like my ten year old and when he
gets pushed in the game, he flies into the stands.
I'm like, you're gonna hurt yourself reacting to the push.
Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
I mean I used to do the same thing. I
had to get to that free throw line. Man, I
had to get to that free throw.
Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
You're the original free throw merchant.
Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, And now I hate it all right,
Look run man.
Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Yeah, I mean once they're down by.
Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Twelve, hey, that's what it's.
Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Oklahoma City's calling a time out
so they're worried enough.
Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Six possession.
Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
It is the Pacers. If anybody would do this, it's
the Pacers. So okay, we'll keep an eye on it.
Twelve point game. What do we got about four minutes ago? Hmm, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Right where we want them anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Anyway, I don't think you get to put yourself above
the rest of the game, because the rest of the
game already kind of feels like the Dodgers have done
that anyway, So I don't think that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
I know you're a fan, but I don't think that's good.
Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
And by the way, hey, you can have that opinion
all you want. It doesn't matter if the pits are
on the mountain disagrees with you. He's gonna throw the
ball wherever he throws the ball, and he got suspended
for three games. He appealed, but he got suspended for
three games.
Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
So yeah, it's I think. You know, it just took
me back to old school baseball. It took me back
to you know, dog day rivalries in mid season. It's
not even mid season. Have they played half the games yet?
Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Not quite? Not quite.
Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
They're getting the games.
Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Yeah, lord, so many games.
Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
It's kind of how I'm trying to be an advt baseball.
I'll be like du playing again to day.
Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Yeah, never get a break. I mean, after all these years,
I gotta feel like Steve feels that way, like so
many updates. It just my god, all the time with
the talking.
Speaker 8 (01:41:01):
We are at the midpoint this week of the Major
League Baseball season, and I know that because the Colorado
Rockies record at eighteen and sixty, it's easy to do
the calculations off that. By the way, the Padres closer
that you referenced, Robert Suarez, who is appealing the three
game suspension his right as a union member. Therefore, was
(01:41:22):
pitching this weekend and got the win in San Diego today,
three to two over Kansas City with a run bottom
of the ninth. Giants are still second in the NLS,
still three and a half behind the Dodgers, Padres still
five back. Giants beat Boston nine to five, and the
Dodgers were down three to nothing in the sixth and
still won thirteen to seven. Over Washington. Shoeo Tani pitched
(01:41:42):
a scoreless first inning with two strikeouts, and at the
plate he had five RBIs, hit a three run triple,
and a two run homer, his twenty sixth of the year.
Seattle's Cal Raley hit his thirty first home run of
the year. Seattle beat the Cubs in Chicago fourteen to six,
and tonight the Phillies now alone in four in the
nl East. Game up on, the Mets beat New York
(01:42:03):
seven to one. Well, they're winding down the NBA regular season,
and the lead at Oklahoma City for the Thunder, which
just over four minutes left, is ninety three seventy nine
against the Indiana Pacers. So, as veteran NBA writer Mark
Stein points out, Commissioner David Stern had crowned eight different
champions in his thirty postseasons as commission for Adam Silver,
(01:42:26):
this will already be crowning a ninth different franchise as
the titleist in his twelve postseasons as commissioner, and this
will be a record seventh new NBA champion in the
past seven seasons of this league. Assuming OKAC at home
holds on to a double digit lead, in the final minutes,
and for those expecting a Pacers comeback, there is one
(01:42:50):
element in the equation missing if it's close in the
last two minutes. Tyrese Halliburton, not on the court, left
in the first quarter with an achilles injury, had to
be helped all off. So we do have for the
Pacers sixteen points each off the bench for TJ. McConnell
and Benedict Mather, And in fact McConnell had the last
twelve points of the third quarter for his team. In
(01:43:11):
other words, nobody else scored in an eight and a
half minute span. Indiana got outscored by fourteen points in
the third, scorings about even between these two teams in
the fourth, but still a double digit lead for the
home squad led by MVP Shay gilgis Alexander Now from
three point range, he's two of eleven, but Sga, in
a game seven of the finals, has twenty seven points,
(01:43:33):
twelve assists and just one turnover. The Sons are trading
Kevin Durant to Houston. By the way, the Florida Panthers
Stanley Cup victory parade was today, including a rally at
Fort Lauderdale Beach Jacksonville Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter has signed
his rookie contract. He reportedly gets a thirty million dollars
signing bonus US Men's soccer two to one over eighty
(01:43:57):
at the Gold Cup Tournament tonight. The Americans play a
quarterfinal next Sunday. Alex Polot took the IndyCar Race. Chase Briscoe,
the NASCAR winner at Pocono LSU, won the College World
Series title, and by the way. In Major League Baseball,
the Yankees got three runs bottom of the eighth to
beat Baltimore four to two, while Detroit won nine to
three at Tampa Bay. The race second in the Al East,
(01:44:18):
now two and a half games behind the New York Yankees.
Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
The winner of the.
Speaker 8 (01:44:23):
Travelers by one stroke, Keegan Bradley in Connecticut. Notable this
tournament because it is a quote signature event, the last
one of the PGA Tour season, which means it's a
huge purse. Keegan Bradley claims a grand prize of three
point six million dollars today and the tie for second
(01:44:46):
gets a goal for almost two point two million. Jason
Day one of those who tied for fourth. That's almost
a million dollars. Scotti, Scheffler and Rory McElroy today tied
for sixth place. That's still seven hundred twent twenty thousand
dollars each. Capturing the Women's PGA min Lee Now she
had a final round seventy four but never gave up
(01:45:08):
the lead. It was a four stroke advantage to start
the day. She is ranked in the top twenty five
in the world. The purse from the LPGA for this
major is up from a year ago when it was
about ten and a half million dollars. Now it's a
record twelve million dollar perse so that matches the US
Women's Open for most prize money. The winner today takes
(01:45:29):
home one point eight million dollars, same amount she earned
for a US Women's Open victory three years ago. She's Australian.
Minji Lee though is a Texas resident and she wins
in Frisco, Texas today.
Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
Back to you, great stuff, Steve, appreciate that very much
and great work tonight. As always, it is Mark Willardy
from salam and we are live in the Fox Sports
Radio studios.
Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
So are you telling me that you're not allowed to
foul Luca either?
Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Is that what I'm hearing. No, Oh, that's what it
sounded like to me.
Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
Well, basketball foules, it's different. Okay, Now you can't throat
kick him. I mean you know what I mean, Like,
throwing a hundred mile an hour fastball at someone is
completely different than a hard foul going to the rim.
Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
But that's now that that wasn't the conversation, Like, yeah,
throwing the ball at anybody's head, I don't care who
it is is wrong, but like, don't do that to him.
Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Well, but but.
Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
He's special.
Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
If you're gonna throw at the padres, then they get
to throw at you.
Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Yeah, but don't throw it. Why would you throw at him?
Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Because that's your best player. That's exactly who I want
to throw at. You threw it our best player.
Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Yeah, but they throw Joe at him a couple of times.
Just f yi.
Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
I mean he got hit. He had hit a couple
of times, and he's got hit three times. Okay, so
he got hit what two times?
Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
Okay? All right? It was like the ahead, who.
Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Would you take if you're starting a team tatiste or show?
Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Hey, that's not the point.
Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
I just asked the question.
Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
That's not the point, of course, would Okay, then you
throw at him. Wait a minute, so now the it's
on the podre.
Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
Just messing around, all right, I'm just messing around.
Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
I mean are we Are we really supposed to?
Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Are we really supposed to in those emotional moments be
thinking about the greater good of the game.
Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Yes, it's really yes, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Who is the most elite pass rusher? You used to
go up.
Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Against Dwight Freeney?
Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Did you touch him?
Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
I tried to clip his body to them.
Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
That's bad for the game.
Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
No, it's not. Why it's the contact sport. There is
no contact in baseball like literally.
Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Now, well that's not true.
Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
None.
Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
When do you make contact with them? When you tag people?
Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Oh my gosh, so now tag is a contact sport.
Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
It is actual contact like tag contact. I mean you're
touching another person. There's content.
Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
You're not even touching them with your hand. It's a
glove like.
Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
I mean you contact the ball with the bat where
it goes boom boom. Anyway you get you you catch
my don't touch him?
Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
That that that would be uh, that would be something else.
That would be something else. If you could if you
could bubble wrap and uh and set aside and and
do all of those things in UH in Major League
Baseball in the emotional moments, I don't quite think that
that's realistic. So anyway, all right, we're coming down the
stretch here, NBA Championship, three minutes to go.
Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
There's still a Stones shins.
Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
In hell but not really Thunder up still by double digits.
Coming down the stretch here we will have the final
answer UH moments away here in the Fox Sports Radio
studios with e from Salam. I'm Mark Willard and this
is Fox Sports Radio. These are Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Oklahoma City Thunder are about to be NBA champions More
(01:49:15):
on that in a second. I don't want this show
to get away from us, though, without getting your thoughts
on something that may and after everything we've been through
this last year or two, everything with.
Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
The Sanders family.
Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
And quite frankly, you and I talked a lot about
this coming out of the draft in a way, I
mean the Shador Sanders story, with what happened at the draft,
maybe for the first time and this was almost a
welcome thing for a lot of fans out there. It
made him a sympathetic figure for the first time in
(01:49:56):
a while. Even though there wasn't really much of a
reason to root for Shador. Prior to all of this,
a lot of people were like, Okay, now I'm rooting
for the guy. Dude, dude, get the message the team
is giving you, get it quick.
Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
And put an end to it.
Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Two speeding tickets this month, one of them over one
hundred miles an hour, and skipping a court date off
of one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Dude, I think you're gonna win that job. I really do.
Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
But I'd close that chapter real quick if I were Shador.
Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
The problem is he may have missed his opportunity to
win that job. When you're late. He was only I
was only drafted fifty four picks after him.
Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:51:02):
So when you're a late I don't care what position
you play. You're a late round draft pick. You don't
have the reason I had the career I had, and
I was able to do because I did everything right.
I did everything right and it still was one of
the hardest things on the world to do. And I
(01:51:24):
was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
This is.
Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
A quarterback, a face of the franchise. You're fighting to
be the face of a franchise, and right now you
are the face of bodycam footage twice twice, and so
(01:51:52):
this isn't good. What we're not being privy to is
speculate they're having conversations upstairs about what happens if we
just release them. Wow, someone has brought that up upstairs.
(01:52:13):
Now we would never know the answer to that. But
someone on that staff, especially given the fact that the
coaches didn't he didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Draft him, right, he was told to draft him. So
someone is saying.
Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
See, this is why we didn't want to do that.
So how do we get from under this before it
gets worse? When you're a late round draft pick, I
don't care who you are and what position you play,
you never want that conversation to be had. You never
want them to talk to talk about you for anything
(01:52:50):
that has nothing to do with practice. Anytime the conversation
shifts to something happening off it's late to practice, late
to meetings, uh, speeding tickets like any any of that. Oh,
you're you're losing. And that's if your first round draft pick.
(01:53:12):
At least you know you got more chances as a
fifth round draft pick. There are no consequences for them
releasing you.
Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
You're only saving grace.
Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
Is such a dysfunctional organization, a franchise that it.
Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
You know, it's a good point.
Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
So that's your only saving grace. But outside of that,
I'm highly disappointed. Has Dion said anything about it? No,
wonder what that sounds like?
Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
What? What? What?
Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
What that like?
Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Where?
Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Where we? Where? Where are we? What's going on? To
do it?
Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Twice ninety one in a sixty five zone? Then failed
to appear. That's not that's not how you're doing it.
Speaker 8 (01:53:58):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
It's a privileged to be in a national football league.
Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
And then yeah, and then followed that up with a
citation for driving one hundred and one.
Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
This week.
Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
In my opinion, and people said, well, he's just he's
a kid. He's making mistakes. Yeah, you don't get a
chance to be a kid as a professional athlete, and
you really don't get a chance to be a kid
as a quarterback in a national football You have to
grow up well. And I hold this I was twenty
two years old.
Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
This might be unfair, but I hold Shadeur to a
higher standard because he's been a celebrity now for a
long time and grew up Sander's son.
Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
This is not new to him.
Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
So that's the problem. I'm having I'm having the problem
of you know, better fool me once.
Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
My man, they haven't even gotten the camp yet.
Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
You know, he may not even make it. It's a
real thing. He may not even make it. And I
know a lot of people out there like, oh, come on, man,
he made a mistake.
Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
It's not it.
Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
I wish people well, it's impossible for them to understand
it because not everybody can do it. But there is
a level of expectation for everybody who's drafted in that room.
The higher you get drafted, the more chances you get
to reach that expectation. The lower you get drafted, no
(01:55:35):
matter who you are, the fewer chances you have. Now,
what will be wild is if it was one more
incident off the field before camp, like if something else happened.
That's what happens when you burn through those those speed bumps.
(01:55:58):
That's what happens when you burned through that. He can't
do anything else, I wouldn't think.
Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
I mean, the Browns have already. You know, you're sort
of asking, like, what's been the follow up. I've not
heard anything from Dion. The Browns have had to address
it publicly and just said quote, he's taking care of
the tickets, so he's going to financially take care of those.
It's not right to a fourth degree misdemeanor. It's not like, no,
(01:56:30):
it's no, it's not, but the law right. But but
the point you're making is that prior to even getting
to training camp, the Browns are having to hold a
press conference ridiculous with regard to their fifth round draft pick,
their fourth string quarterback, and discipline.
Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
And you're not wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
Whether people agree with this or believe you or whatever,
teams don't put up with that.
Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
There's no reason for them to.
Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
No at all.
Speaker 4 (01:57:01):
And that's where he's put himself, especially at that position.
Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
I mean, do you realize how scary that is for
a multi billion dollar organization to hand over face of
the team duties. And this has already happened twice before
camp even opens.
Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Hey man, great stuff tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
And shout out to the okay, see thunder.
Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
We we we gave it a good try. We give
it a really good try. And shout out to Tyrese Halliburton.
Man that uh that's said that it is. It is
really sad. All right, great show tonight, Glad you're with us,
Stay right where you are because Plank and Spain. You're
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