Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Talk Everything NFL Preseason!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think, as the phrase goes, it's about that time,
but I want to focus in on the about it's
about that time. But let's go ahead and to find that.
We got a lot of stuff to play with tonight.
You heard Brianna just bring up Trey Lance. There's some
stuff we want to talk about there. Lebron, James and Jokich.
The meeting, what did it mean? Steph Curry? The preseason

(00:26):
is underway. Plus I need to weave my way to
figure out, especially from a man, a husband and a
father I respect, how to handle family and football in
the fall. So we're gonna get to all of that.
Glad you're all with us tonight. Ephraim, how are we doing?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm doing great man, How you doing? Good? To have
you back?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I had a little, a little weekend away to do
a graduation party for the family.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Multiple grads okay this year in.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
The greater family, and so off they go to who
knows what and whatever's next. But how to celebrate that
and now, thank you for holding it down. We'll get
back at it tonight, of course, of course, of course,
so yeah, what is preseason football? Like, what do we
actually get out of this?

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Look, a lot of people they feel how they feel
about preseason. For the players, that's how you make a
football team. So you know, having preseason games is essentially
how you make the team. And I say that because

(01:37):
that's how I became a starter my rookie year. It
came down to the final, fourth and final preseason game.
We don't even have four anymore unless you're playing in
the Hall of Fame game, but the fourth and final
preseason game for me, it was up to the then
starter and me, and we both played one half, two quarters,

(02:00):
and whoever played the best was starting Opening weekend and
that was in the very last preseason game. And so
for me, I look at preseason as a gauge to
see if the talented players you've drafted are the talented
undrafted free agents can actually play football at the highest level.

(02:23):
And I know the speed isn't the same, but there's
something to be said to go out and have an understanding,
whether you're playing offense or defense, have an understanding of
all of the things you've been putting in since you've
been drafted, since OTAs, since mini camp and now can

(02:44):
you recall those things in seconds? That's what preseason is
for me.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's fair. That's fair. So that I get. That's why
there will always be preseason. That's why players will play
in the preseason. My next question, though, is to further
it's the majority, if not all, of the people listening to.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Us, what can they take from the preseason?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yes, and I'm not saying like it's there to entertain us,
or what I mean is we just watched all the teams.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Now, all the teams have played at least once.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
What opinion can we form, if any, based on what
we just watched.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
You can see if you're if you have a team
that has a new head coach, all right, new offensive,
new defensive court, new personnel, new quarterback. Okay, you can
make an assessment barring they've played all of those things.
You know, the players have played, you know, new draft picks,
no Jackson Dart, all of those type of things should do.

(03:49):
Or you can tell if things are going well, and
that's exciting. If things are going well, if you can
come out and you can move the ball, you can
stop someone on defense, it lowers your anxiety level as
a fan going into the season. What you don't want

(04:13):
is to see players come out turn the ball over, uh,
you know, not get first downs, not score touchdowns, look
like they don't understand a lot of penalties. Those are
the warning signs. And then you can play it off like, oh,
it's just the first preseason, preseason game. We'll see how
it goes as we go along. All that's fine and good, okay,

(04:36):
But when it goes good for you, oh wow, it's
no feeling.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
You're going You're going. We're going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Of course, of course.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
And in fact, without even playing this weekend, there was
already one quarterback who told another team, Hey, we're about
to see you in the in the championship game, and
we'll get we'll get to that. But obviously I think
Shador Sanders is the number one thing people are talking
about over the weekend. But before we do that, you know,
maybe this is an even more specific way for me

(05:08):
to ask it. When I see the Washington Commanders lose
by thirty, and I see the Green Bay Packers lose
by twenty, and I see the San Francisco forty nine
ers lose by twenty one, and I see teams that
we firmly believe are going to be good. I don't
know about great, but good, productive competitive teams come this season.

(05:31):
Am I supposed to? Because here's the word that always
comes up. Are you concerned? Is there anything that can
happen in any of these games that a fan should take.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
To bed with him or her at night with? I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm concerned with what I'm seeing on the field, even
though it doesn't count. It's not against necessarily at least
formed real teams. It's also not a fully formed real
team surrounding you. And in fact, the mythical you in
this person is probably also not a major member of

(06:13):
the team that we're talking about. So what about that
the good team that got blown out this weekend?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Number one question is we're starters playing?

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Okay? How many studs? Which starters?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well, let's start with the quarterback first.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, So if JN.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Daniels did not.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Play, So if the quarterback is playing, then the starting
offensive line is playing. Okay, the starting receivers are playing,
and everyone else. They will not put a starting quarterback
out there with some guys. So if you had a
team that ran into a brick wall the first preseason
game and none of your offensive starters were playing, you're fine.

(06:59):
You don't have anything to worry about.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Now.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
If you did have your offensive starter uh starters playing,
and the brief time they were playing, you didn't manage
to move the ball score any points are look efficient,
then final score was standing. You don't worry about that.

(07:24):
Because there's a lot of guys in preseas, especially the
first preseason game, that won't be in the NFL in
three weeks literally will be doing something else with their lives.
So there's about there's a couple thousand of those guys
that won't be playing, So you have to keep that

(07:46):
in context. Now, if your starters were playing the period
of time they were playing, if they didn't look well,
then yes, be concerned.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Jordan Love one to five seven yards quarterback rating of
thirty nine point six no points.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
That's concerning, okay, because they weren't going against the guy
guys on defense. And if your offensive line is giving
up sacks on your starting quarterback in the preseason game,
that's a problem because it's only gonna get harder. That's

(08:27):
a problem. So most for those fans who are listening
who don't know if your starters are playing, if you're
starting quarterback, and I'll just say starting quarterback is playing.
And when I say that, that means the starting offense.
If they're playing, then they've scripted one drive. You guys

(08:48):
got one drive first preseason game. You got one drive.
Let's see what you can do and in that drive
our player, friendly team, friendly offense, friendly plays. If you
can't execute that, there's something bigger on the horizon. There's
something that needs to be adjusted. Short passes, run game typically,

(09:15):
play action passes. Those are the typical things that you
want to see because the last thing you want is
you're starting quarterback getting touched at all. So there's not
a lot of drop back seven step drops. Even if
it's third and long, we're not going to drop back
and hold on to the ball and do anything like that.
So if you give it up a second, your offensive
line has been beaten, you know, fast, then there's something

(09:39):
there's a level of concern that's warranted.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I got another team I want to ask you about,
because especially this time of year, everybody's gearing up for
their fantasy drafts. I have my first one next Saturday,
so when I talk to you next week, I will
have experience I will have experience in a twenty twenty
five fantasy drop. But because everybody is thinking about those,
we are only as always looking at what one side

(10:04):
of the ball, the offensive side of the football. But
a lot of these teams, these coaches, they have philosophies
come this time of year. If you're Sean McVeigh, you
bubble wrap, everybody will see you in September. But let's
look at Zach Taylor and the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow
came out get a little tune up. He had all

(10:25):
of his starters, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, all the chases.
They were all out there. They go hot knife through Butter,
they score a touchdown. Nice tune up, right, what does
he do next? Get out there again? They go out
there and they do it again, and they go hot
knife through Butter and in fact Burrow hits Jamar Chase
for a touchdown catch. Nice job. There's fourteen points for

(10:46):
the Bengals. Meantime, I'm assuming that that means that the
Bengals starting defense is also out there for a tune up.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Well, not necessarily, not necessarily necessarily.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, some of their starters, of course, are still in contract. Squabble,
so some of them are not even available with this hour.
But Tanner McKee goes out there as the quote unquote
starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, and he puts up
in twenty five pass attempts at quarterback rating up one
hundred and thirty five. The Eagles have twenty four points

(11:23):
at halftime, and I said, well, you know what, there's
one team in the NFL that looks regular season ready,
and that is the Cincinnati Bengals because they look exactly.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Like they did when we last saw them.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Well, what we talked about when we talked about the
dispute and Trey Anderson not being signed and Joe Burrow
coming to his aide saying, we need to sign our guys.
We've already established a Cincinnati is going to have to
and going to try to outscore everyone. They took care
of the offensive side of the ball. Joe Burrows making
a lot of money. Higgins and Chase are making a

(11:58):
bunch of money. That's where the money is. Cincinnati's a
cheap organization. Historically, they not just gonna go Will and
Nelly with the checkbook. So the checkbook has some checks,
if some really big checks have been written and cashed,
leaving a deficit on the defensive side of the ball. Now,
although they did come to terms with their first round

(12:20):
edge rusher, it still doesn't bode well for them in
the regular season. They're going to have to score thirty
four to thirty five points a game to have a shot.
And it's evident, like you just said, a backup quarterback
came in hot knife through butter. They're doing anything they want,

(12:41):
but that's how this team is constructed.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
This year.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
They'll win all in on offense. And that's why Joe
Burrow came out for two series, because they need they
cannot afford. They cannot afford the slow start that Joe
Burrow has experienced his entirety of his pro career.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Every single year, it's a fact they start behind the
eight ball and they cannot do that this year. And
so they're going to get as much work as they
need offensively so they can be clicking on all cylinders.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
What I hear you say is that basically there are
little things here and there that you can take team
wise in the preseason, but much more of it is
based on certain individuals either tuning up or trying to
make a team. I got two individuals, both of them
play quarterback. Neither one of them are starters, but both

(13:35):
of them play quarterback, and they may have just had
an effect on the league with stuff that they did
over this past weekend. I want to get to both
of those players. We'll do that coming up next. Really,
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Speaker 3 (15:13):
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Speaker 4 (15:14):
Are you watching the or have you watched the second
season of Quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
No? Not yet?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Okay do you even know who's on it this time?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah? I think Kirk Cuttins on there again right.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Which is basically one of the things I want to
get to. Yes, Joe Burrow, Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins dot
dot dot again. Now, look, every personality that's out there
to each their own.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
I want people to be authentic.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I want to be you know, into whatever I'm into,
You're into whatever you're into.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
How did Kirk Cousins get to do this again?

Speaker 5 (15:52):
I was I was thinking, I was wondering, is he
one of the executive producers.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh no, maybe that's his idea is mahomes Is, and
he was in the first one, and like Cousins for
those of you who didn't watch this the first time around, like,
I'm just gonna be real, I'm not trying to take
shots at everyone. Mariota was kind of boring mahomes Is.
Mahomes there's a whole new just a different animal, and

(16:19):
then there's Cousins, and you're like, Okay, you know it's
kind of quirky and campy and cheeky at times, but
like good player, and you're going through major injury and
changing of teams and so I get the drama there.
But I would not have had on my bingo card

(16:40):
when I left the last season of Quarterbacks that we
would be coming back for more Cousins. But that's what
we got. But he's on my mind this weekend again
because in watching where at least I'm at in the Dock,
we're not even to the spot yet where Pennix kind
of takes over the job.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
So we're still like, you know, we're a year.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Ago, yes, right, but now go all bad in a second?

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Correct? But yesterday was it? Yesterday?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Or the day before, it doesn't matter, whatever, you get
the point. Preseason game this weekend, Lions play the Falcons
Easton Stick, who should be a baseball player but isn't.
Easton Stick went fifteen to eighteen for one hundred and
forty nine yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yes, a preseason football game. But two things.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
One, there's still no sign of Kirk Cousins, and now
people are thinking, hey.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Why don't you just let this do it? Be the backup?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
And are we now getting to the point where you're
going to see teams struggle at quarterback and renew Kirk
Cousins trade talks makes a lot of sense to me.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, yeah, I think he'll be hot.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
If anything happens to a projected starter right off the back,
I think he's first in line. He would have to be,
especially for a contending team. Now, if a team who
was not contending and they are reserved to trying to
get one of the quarterbacks and a pretty crowded, pretty
pretty well stocked quarterback class next year, then you hold pat.

(18:27):
But if you're a contending team, in god forbid, something
happens to your starter, then Kirk Cousins is the first option.
The first phone call is Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
That's easy.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I mean, I'm looking around at the board and I
know what you're saying. You're saying, Okay, someone's got to
get hurt, and that's probably the case, yes, But I'm
also looking around just going are there any like candidates already?
I mean, look, Matt Stafford's supposed to start practicing tomorrow.

(19:00):
What if he does and everything's cool, then okay, there's
that the Indianapolis Colts Anthony Richardson. Apparently it's not serious.
I also don't even think he's gonna win the job anyway.
I don't know that you would call them a contender either.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
No, And I think that's one of those teams that
would holpat between Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. I think
they're content to whatever happens happens and position themselves to
find their quarterback this coming up draft.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Okay, that's all.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
That's a perfect example of one of those teams I'm
talking about.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yep, I get it.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I get it, And that makes all the sense in
the world from the team perspective. There is a little
piece of me, and I know no one wants to
feel sorry for him. He's made bajillions of dollars in hell,
Netflix has profiled him twice. So everything's fine. But I
do feel a little bit bad for Kirk, like he
should be able to play some football.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, but he has. He's he's had a tremendous career.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
It's a tremendous career.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
But it got over.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Ye oh no, no, no, it's not over.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
And he'll get an opportunity to trust me, the way
the league goes, you know of a team that's competing, well, well,
you know that's just the nature of the beast. So
all he has to do is continue to get paid. Well,
let Michael Pennix do what he's gonna do. God forbid,
something happens to him. And I remember that Michael Pennis
has a bit of an injury history, an injury history,

(20:27):
which is why he was in college so long. But
you know he's had two, you know, call him potential
career ending injuries in college.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
And so.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
They're gonna hold off to see what happens. Is what
you don't want to do is trade them now and
then you need them in week three. That's not you know,
that's what you don't want to do. That's fair and
so they're they're in no rush. He's not gonna play
in the preseason because you don't want him to get
hurt in the preseason. And so if you're going to

(21:03):
pay him, you're gonna need You're gonna want him available
if you need it. And I think I think they've
made the choice. We're gonna pay the money. We want
to move forward with Michael Pennocks, and that's just what
it's gonna be. Now, Why Michael Pennicks didn't start or
play a series, and like, I don't understand that, why

(21:24):
Caleb Williams didn't play a season with the new head
coach in the first.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Like I don't, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
I'm not quite sure what these There's only three preseason
games now, so you got two more opportunities, and more
than likely you wouldn't want them to play the week
before the regular season, right, So you take one and
two right, One to knock the rust off, to to
implement things you want to see during the regular season,

(21:53):
and three you evaluate the rest of your team.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
In my mind, that's the way to do that. It
used to be.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
When I was playing, the starters played a series in
the first preseason game. Second preseason game, they came out
and played, you know, a couple series, not quite a
full half. The third preseason game was we're playing the
first half and if that goes well, you're done. If not,
we'll come out and play in the first drive in

(22:24):
the third quarter and then hand it off and we'll
be done to opening day. And the fourth preseason game
was strictly for those decisions and roster spots that they
were trying to figure out, right, That's how it was
a ramp up situation. Now, I mean it's gotten to
the point where starters don't play at all, and then
starters aren't playing like, I don't know. With Ben Johnson,

(22:46):
I'm like, Caleb, I want to see you right now,
no doubt, no doubt, let's listen to let's run it. Yeah,
and you're talking about a very very young player. Yeah,
I need him to get those reps in a game
simulated type of situation in the new offense.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
There was another backup quarterback who made some more waves
today that could have a little bit of a trickle
down effect. In fact, there's a tweet from Lewis Riddick
about this quarterback that I want to read to you.
Coming up next, I think Trey's name will come up
as Brianna speaks. She mentioned him last time. She'll probably
do it again. But there's only one way to find out.

(23:22):
Let's go to Brionna Murou right now, our backup quarterback.
There you go.

Speaker 8 (23:27):
That's a very nice thank you guys. Yes, Week one
of the NFL preseason is in the books. The Chargers
defeated My Saints twenty seven to thirteen. Chargers quarterback Trey
Lance seven to fourteen fifty five passing yards through the air,
along with forty eight yet rushing yards and one rushing
touchdown on the Saints quarterback kind of like carousel.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Tyler Shuck looked.

Speaker 8 (23:47):
Probably the better out of all three of them, Shuck,
which I was not expecting. I'm a Spencer Rattler girl,
so I don't know. But Tyler Shuck fifteen of twenty two,
one touchdown, one interception, Spener Ratler seven to eleven fifty
three yards, and Jake Hayner probably smiled and posed when
he went five for eight before forty one yards with
an interception. Titans running back Tajy Spears was diagnosed with

(24:10):
a right high ankle sprain. He'll be out a few weeks,
and like you guys mentioned, Matthew Stafford is set to
return to practice on Monday. In Major League Baseball, Cal
Rawly hit his forty fifth home run of the season
as the Mariners defeated the Rays six to three for
their seventh straight win. The Brewers walked it off against
the Mets seven and six for their ninth straight straight win.
Justin Berliander became the tenth picture pitcher in MLB history

(24:33):
with thirty five hundred strikeouts. Just really didn't make a difference.
That's the National shutout the Giants eight to zero, the
Blue Jays score late and beat the Dodgers of five
to four, and the Astros beat the Yankee seven to one.
The Yankees have lost seven of their last nine. All right, guys,
back to you, Bra, I.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Do have a quest too. Can we learn more about
the phrase I'm a Spencer Rattler girl. I've never heard
someone say this before, and I want to know what
he did to make you a Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
To fair mark her options or Tyler shuck Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And no questions right, Like I mean, there is also
an option to just be like I'm out on this
quarterback round like you can do that too.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
There's no there's something about Spencer Rattler, like that chip
on his shoulder, okay, just this whole college career, like
this is his time to shine, you guys, shine though
he's gonna shine more than shook. So I mean I hope,
so I hope, so I hope. I hope that this
is going to be good. Like Dennis Allen is gone,
Derek Carr is gone. All we just need good juju.

(25:35):
So we need good Spencer Ratler juju?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (25:38):
That makes sense?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yet? Like I love your hope, my goodness, your hope
is wonderful.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
You.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
I have a T shirt you guys, Ratler t.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Shirt goodness like you should be.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
You're good at weddings and graduations, like everything is gonna
go well in your mind. If I mean the Saints,
I mean, yeah, you're you. You root for who you
root for. But I don't think this year is going
to go very well.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
I'm not saying they're gonna like win the division.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I mean I'm not cuckoo.

Speaker 8 (26:06):
I mean, I'm like a little Delulu, but I'm not cuckoo.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, if that's your next T shirt, yes.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
Thank you exactly, just a tad so, I mean, so
we'll see. So you guys, when you guys watch the
Saints this year, think of me thinking and just let's
just pray. Spencer Rattler just dominates over Tyler Shock.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm praying prayers up. Yes, thank you all right, Brianna,
thank you, thank you very much. All right, we are
live in the in the Fox Sports radio studios. Mark
willard E from Salaam. I'm a Spencer Rattler girl. I've
heard that before. I've never I've never heard it. I've
never heard it. But here we are. We've got a
T shirt. I know, I know. Well, I'm a Trey

(26:48):
Lance guy. Actually I'm not. But I'd like to read
this to you, Trey. As you heard Breonna just say,
seven of fourteen for fifty five yards.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Whipty do?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
But also he ran the ball really well, seven carries
forty eight yards a touchdown. All right, here's what I
want to ask you talk to me, brother, because it
felt to me like shots fired. Trey goes out does
what he does for the Chargers. It's their second preseason game.

(27:22):
He did some good some bad in the first one
in the Hall of Fame game. Also, but Lewis Riddick,
who I really respect, by the way, broadcaster, evaluator, all
of it, Lewis tweeted earlier today, Trey Lance is with
the right program, right coach, right qb room, no bs,

(27:47):
no agendas. He has a chance to see what he
can actually now become.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Happy af for him. Hashtag bolt up from m is
somebody taking a shot at somebody here.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Because it feels like somebody's taking a shot at somebody here.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Well, I think there's a there's a subliminal in there.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
But talk to me, But I talk to me.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Look, Trey Lance is probably one of the most polarizing
quarterbacks that hasn't played quarterback.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Good lord for sure.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Because he does enough for you to be like, oh,
it's something there. He's young enough for you to be like,
he still has time, but he really hasn't gotten an
opportunity to really showcase it right Like. And when I

(28:51):
say opportunity, I mean, if you're going to be a
starting quarterback, give me a season now. His health has
had a lot to do with that. Sure, I don't
think if he was healthy and at the Niners. He
would have been prepared to play well because he just

(29:11):
hadn't had the reps. Natural talent is one thing, but
natural talent when there's a jet playing aim that you
is something different. The game is too fast. Seventeen games
at Division Division two or you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Gosh yeah, South Dakota State, I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's not enough. It's not enough to be
prepared to start in the NFL at quarterback. And so
you know, Rock Party was the last pick in the draft,
but he played a ton of college football. He had

(29:55):
a bunch of starts, through a bunch of passes, seen
a bunch of different defenses, played in high level bowl games.
All of those things matter. If you recognize quarterbacks who've
been in college longer, come out a little early, a
little older, fair well when they come into the NFL

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because they've the reps are real.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
The reps are real.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
And being able to handle the game flow and the
play calling and getting up to the line and getting
you in the best position and things like that, that
all that matters. And the more reps you have at
it at a high college level and in the NFL,
the better you become. Now, if you can't become good
after all of that, then it's time to go through

(30:43):
something else.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
And you get that.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
And Trey Lance, I say, he's polarizing because we don't know, well, we.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Don't know if he's had enough time.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
We don't know if you know, he looks good this
day and okay the next day.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
And I'd like to talk about that because you're you're
absolutely right, and he for sure, he's very polarizing. It
is reverse draftism, if you will. We've talked so much
about draftism. In other words, no one will believe Brock
Purdy in the face of him very consistently being good.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
And the reverse of that is, no one will.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Believe that Trey Lance stinks, even though there is now
years of evidence of him not being able to get
into a football field.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Is that his responsibility is that the teams.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
We can have that debate, but I'm focused on one
part of this tweet, and this is where I'd like
to go next, because it's done. It's one thing if
you're like, oh, Tray's with the right program and the
right coach, the right QBS in the room with him.
I like this for Trey, but then he says, no
BS no agendas. Oh, I would like to talk about

(31:51):
bs and agendas and where those may or may not
have taken place to this point in his which has
been spent only with the forty nine Ers and the
Dallas Cowboys. So uh, let's check that up coming up
next with Ephram Salam.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
I'm Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Okay, this is live in the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Pick it right back up where we were. We're talking
about Trey Lance, of all people who had forty eight
yards in a tuddy on the ground as a quarterback
for the Chargers today in their second preseason game. Lewis Riddick, rightes,
Trey Lance is with the right program, right coach, right

(32:42):
qb room, no bs, no agendas, got a chance to
see what he can actually now become happy af for him. Okay,
you want to take your first crack Kahan. Okay, so
Kyle Shanahan, so.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
This is my whole thing.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Let's not make it like Kyle Shanahan and the forty
nine Ers didn't give Trey Lance an opportunity.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Thank you, agreed.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Now, they moved up to draft him because they thought
they had something. Now, whether that's something is realized or not,
we're not sure. But the reason Brock Parties started or
had to play was because Trey Lance was hurt.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Correct, I don't.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
It's not like Trey Lance had played five, six, seven,
eight games and they decided let's put the other guy in.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, it was week two and now now you will.
I promise you. If anybody in the bay is listening
on ninety five to seven the game right now, I'm
telling you you can be people getting screaming at the radio.
Kyle got him hurt by running quarterback power.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
You don't do that to a QB.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Is that be us?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Is that the BS that Lewis Riddick speaks of.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Well, the one thing I do know about Kyle Shanahan,
he's going to adjust his offense based on the strength
of the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
When he was in Washington with his dad, they altered
the Shanahan offense, which I'm proficient in. I've played in
it the majority of my career.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
They put a read option in and all kinds of
RPOs based on RG three's ability. And that's from from
a person who it didn't matter. They were not adjusting
the offense. It's it's worked, it's won super Bowls, it's
produced some of the greatest rushing seasons in the history

(34:56):
of the NFL. And to see them all alter it
based on talent and person and personnel was a big thing.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
So I'm not faulting Kyle.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Shanahan for trying to maximize Trey Lance's strengths. Opposed to
sit in the pocket, throw the ball. No, we'll put
the read option in, We'll put quarterback power, whatever it
is to make the kid comfortable enough not to look
like a deer in the headlights out there, then okay.

(35:31):
But to say it's his fault that Trey Lance got hurt, Nah,
I don't want to do that because that would be
then you put them out there to get hurt.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I'm with you. I'm with you. Don't have this debate
about a billion times already, and so I'm with you.
I'm trying to get to the bottom though, of what
Lewis Riddick says is bs and agendas, and like that's
guess one. I like, we can't be talking about the Cowboys, right, Like,

(35:59):
I mean, they traded a fourth round pick for them
and then they never used him. We never saw him.
There was never any seemingly agenda. The only thing, if
the only agenda I could see for the Cowboys. And
I'm thinking back to something you told me when this
trade happened, which is because I'm like, why would they
do that?

Speaker 4 (36:18):
You know, they've got Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
As it turns out, they had Cooper Rush and kept
Cooper Rush ahead of Trey Lance throughout his time there.
But the spin on that at the time was Jerry
Jones did that deal because Jerry Jones likes it when
Jerry Jones' name is being talked about, right.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
But I also so that's some BS cray Lance didn't
get an opportunity to play when Dak Prescott wasn't available, correct,
So maybe that's the agenda or the BS or the
quarterback room he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Maybe maybe remember, if we want to really dive into
the controversies here, this is another place I would go.
When Trey Lance was given the Week one starting role,
this is brock Perty's rookie year. Brock had not even
been heard of at this point.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
No one knew who he was except for the people
who gave him the parade.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
There you go, Jimmy Garoppolo had already had a press
conference where he told the Bay Area media and I
quote see you, thank you. And then after off season
surgery and being traded nowhere, somehow the forty nine ers
in Garoppolo as he sat off to the side of

(37:34):
practice every day, came to some sort of an agreement
to stay with the team. There was a very healthy
debate at that time in the Bay Area in terms
of what was actually going on there. A lot of
people were like, hey, more quarterbacks, great, Like yeah, your
bolster in your room. I thought to Myselfie from you

(37:56):
don't do that to the number three pick in the
draft when you give him the job. Do not re
sign a guy who's literally two years off of a
Super Bowl appearance and an NFC title appearance with this
same team. You do not grab him, stick him back
in your room and have him look over the shoulder

(38:16):
of the pup who's taken over the role for as
a starter for the first time. That that felt unfair
through my eyes, But I also think that you only
do that if you're not liking what you're seeing in practice.
That was my read on it. Now, do you want

(38:36):
to call is that BS? Is that an agenda and
where do we fit in the whole idea of Dude,
if you were awesome, they were to put you on
the field. Yeah like that right?

Speaker 5 (38:49):
I mean, look, if you can go, they're not gonna
hide the talent, you know. And I'm a I'm hopeful
that he gets a real shot. Like I said, you
need a season to understand who you are as a player,

(39:10):
especially at the quarterback position. You need a season where
you are at the helm. There's no one looking over you,
not looking over your shoulder, there's no one behind you.
There's it's just you. Wins are losses. Hey, it's on you.
And until you get that, we won't know.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
We just won't know.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Think about the Sam Donald's and uh uh and.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Mayfield what's the kid?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Now? For the Chargers, Zach knows Zach, Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oach Wilson.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Like they they were playing, it was like, hey man,
this is what this is what it is, right David.
They had plenty of opportunity to go what Geno Smith.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Right.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
These quarterbacks had ample opportunities to play the good and
the bad for people to assess the next move. Keep them,
leave them, trade them, whatever that is he's never had that.
He's never had that, and it's not gonna get it
now playing behind Justin Herbert, Right.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That's the other thing, you know, Yeah, probably not gonna
happen now either. Okay, coming up next football this year,
your family's not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
How do you deal with that? That's next?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, we're just getting started, just getting started right here
in these Fox Sports Radio studios. Oh yeah, Steph Curry
and Lebron James names are both gonna come up later
on in the show.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
You can count on that.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
But I have maybe the most important question of the
year to ask you. You know, we get into all
of this and NBA and Major League Baseball and NFL
and who's doing what out there on the field, and
let's get real. What matters more is what is happening
inside people's homes and football is here. And I feel

(41:18):
like we tiptoe into this every year, and we probably shouldn't,
because when you tiptoe in, that's what causes fights. People
need to know where you stand, be authentic with other people,
let them know what you're thinking and feeling, so that
you can manage their expectations.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Under promise, over deliver.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
In other words, if you're a big football fan, it
is time right now, August tenth, to tell your family
that you're unavailable for the next five months of their lives.
How do you handle this? Data of two and wonderful
husband that you are.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Wife is number one, phenomenal. Yes, and she's actually helped me.
And I've sent you the picture of my setup every Sunday,
so I watched.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
So I watch all eight games or nine games prior
to us coming in and doing our show.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
You don't even do red zone.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
All of the guys watch every play in every game.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Like I got the all Zone channel, all the zone.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
So I'm not I don't I understand red zone, but
I'm not a red zone guy.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I like to watch everything.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
So when we come and speak on Sunday nights like
we are now, I'm informed of everything that's going on.
And it's just the way I've been watching games since
I've stopped playing games. And when Direct TV had Sunday Ticket,
they had eight games on at one time. And some
people will I don't like the little boxes, Well get

(42:58):
a bigger TV, get a big box, all right, you
can get a bigger box, the boxes won't be so small.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Okay. So first and foremost, getting awesome spouse.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Oh got it, you gotta have that get in all
some spouse. Now they understand I work, this is my job,
this is our job. They don't even come into the
living room.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Does she like it?

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Does she want to have anything to do with it?

Speaker 7 (43:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
She just my thing.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
She loves football, and like we can watch the game
and do all of that together. But she knows on Sundays,
I'm essentially working before I go to work.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Right, And like like a trick that some people do
if you're getting into that whole battle about like.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Are you gonna sit there all day? We don't sit
with me.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
She doesn't mind.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
And all she's she's back in the back house working,
and you know the kids are, you know, doing whatever
they're doing. It's still the weekend, so they're probably gaming
or or or doing something like that. Son's probably in
the backyard playing basketball.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
And how do they know what ten twelve?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Where we're eleven and fourteen?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Okay, eleven and fourteen, all right, so how about go backward?
Probably at eleven and fourteen, let's go backward like five years,
same thing. Okay, but but hear me. Now, I want
to know how you handled.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
This is how I did it.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
But but but there's a specific scenario that I'd like
to bring, not just five years ago and life five
years ago, and your boys have been invited to a
birthday party and it starts at eleven am on Sunday,
and it's at the park.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Oh, it's at the park.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
That's easy.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Then your good friends would like to have you out.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
That's easy for maybe a Jack Daniel's country pooler at
a chat easy? What do you do?

Speaker 3 (44:51):
My wife is taking them?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay? Well yeah, like okay, so like yes, but do
you understand and how difficult what you're making sound easy
is for some family.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
You gotta know who you married. Okay, First of all,
you pick a spouse, don't you gotta know who you marry.
You gotta I mean, don't act like oh now you
don't want to not like hey man, look, me and
my wife been together twenty two years. Okay, and just
when my boys were smaller, so five years ago, my

(45:26):
boys were younger, Sunday's was father Sunday. I took them
to the farmer's market every single Sunday.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
What times the farmer's market.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
We would get up.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
What's time the former market is the performer's markets start
cooking at seven thirty.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
We would get up. We get there nine.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
It's right down the street from the house to the
city farmers market, vent too her place. It's this wonderful
got the jumpy house. I got the pies, they got
the train ride, they got the face tattoos and the icys,
and we did it all. I have years and years
and years of photos of me and my boys at

(46:14):
the farmer's market.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
And and and every one of those photos is timestamped
between back.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
We would get back so I could watch the games.
But I made the I want to go, and I
want to take the boy And I'm talking about years
to where they are too big to be on the
ponies now and I'm talking about baby baby pictures like

(46:42):
adorable every Sunday for years.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Good and so.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
I made time and adjustments for my boys. But when
it's time to watch, then I watch now. I didn't
always have the Sunday show. I used to have the
Saturday show. Correct, So it wasn't this thing of I
need to watch these to talk about them, because I'd

(47:10):
already talked about them the night before. So I'm moving.
I maneuver my schedule, you know, to fit my life.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yes, well, and that's very well played.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Now I know we're sitting here and there is a
little bit of a privilege that you and I enjoy
in that there is something that we can say to
our people that most of the people listening to us
cannot say, and that is is that this is work.
It's work, and it is it's work.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
It's work before I got married, it's work after I'm married,
while I'm married.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
It's just it's work.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
But if it's not, if it's not, then you have
to have a partner that understands this is something. This
is one of your pleasures. Right, So in life we
all need thinks, all have things that make us happy,
to make us who we are, to make us better.
In the household, right, if it's your wife and she
likes massages, or like getting her nails done, or she

(48:10):
likes to go hike, whatever that is, she likes to
watch whatever, then I'm not going to take that away
from her, yes, or make her feel bad for doing that.
That's not how you that's not a relationship, that's not
how you are partners in something. Now, if you want
to sit around and watch football all Sunday and then

(48:33):
on Monday, not be involved in the household on Tuesday,
not be involved Wednesday Thursday, Like, that's not We're talking
about something else.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Ain't got nothing to do with football.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
No, it's a you problem.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
But the NFL doesn't really helpier because they're like, no,
we're gonna we're gonna cover all of Sundays. But then
they're like, and then we're also gonna do Monday. We're like,
all right, we got that, and then tell you this.
Now we're gonna do Thursday, and then sometimes on Wednesdays.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Listen, listen, I got holidays.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
We would cover all the holidays.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I got to fix.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Okay, what is it now?

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Some people don't like to do this, Okay, so you
have to make adjustments. Right, So, if you are given
the grace to watch football all Sunday and Monday night,
football comes on, but it's dinner and you guys, are.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
You know whatever?

Speaker 5 (49:23):
That is?

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Right?

Speaker 5 (49:25):
It's one game tape, the DVR, TVR, the game. Some
people hate it. Listen there the game. Don't look at
your messages, don't get the updates. When the kids are
in bed. When dinner is over, it's about nine pm.

(49:47):
You have some some downtime for yourself. Watch the game.
It'll take you an hour, hour, ten minutes to get
everything to watch the whole game. You don't know to score.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
But nothing.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
The juice goes away there.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
It does to me.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
It does when you're like, because there's a natural flow.
It might you could argue actually be unnatural, but because
of commercials and whatnot, there's a natural flow to the
anticipation in the build of a sporting event.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
You know what I mean, if I have to do
with it, but it does.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Like if you if you're go to baseball, go to baseball,
bases are loaded, two outs. It's the bottom of the
eighth of a tie game, and the picture on your
favorite team Boomy strikes that batter out. Bang. You are
up on your feet. We are tied, we are going
to the ninth. I'm not feeling it if that next
batter is like Edy's up like two seconds later.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Because you know, I need to go get a snack.
I need to pace around you. You know you can
control I understand that. But if I'm not talking about
watching a an edited version, you are watching the exact
same game live if you desire to watch the commercials.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
I know, and watch the.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Commercials if you desire.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I don't want to watch commercials.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Neither do I. But the little voice in the back
of your.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Head doesn't say anything fast forward exactly. The little voices
like this, we don't need it, No, nothing is it
doesn't already happened.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
That's a little bit of juice. Plus I don't promise
you it doesn't listen. And I don't know about you.
We're all wired differently. I am, like, decidedly, very very
epically a morning person. So if you put everybody to bed,
and the food has all been taken care of, and
the dishwasher is full and running, and the dog has

(51:46):
been walked and fed, and you're like, okay, now I
can watch the game.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Yes, brother, I'm asleep in two damn minutes gone. Yes,
it is a mean thing problem. Don't put that on
your spouse. It is what I'm going is. I'm giving you,
guys the cheat code. If you don't want to the
answers to the test, then hey, man, you on your own.
If you want to push back on me, Mark, I'm

(52:13):
not going to be like, well, I want to the
base is loaded, and I want to be a part.
I want to be in the moment. Then hey man,
good luck. I'm just trying to good luck to you, sir.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I'm trying to get answers to multiple scenarios. I'm in
your bucket e on multiple ways. Okay, I do get
to say this is work. I do have a wife
who enjoys this. I also because, as you know, just
got married three weeks ago and not on first rodeo.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
I don't even know if you know this part.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
We don't. Did we talk about this my wife and
I at this stage in our lives. We don't even
live together.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Oh know, we did not talk about ha ha.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Not yet, and we will.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
But there's there's five kids there at a certain stage,
there's right there's bedrooms, there's houses.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
We live right down the street from one another. All
is good.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I don't need to worry about what you're talking about.
But I'm trying to get answers for everybody.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I'm giving the answers, and you're trying to shoot the answers.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
No, I'm just trying to broaden to all the scenarios
that may be out there.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Out on the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
To see.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
The East Coast, the game comes on late in it
it's too late. It's late, so kids should be no
dinner should be had. That like you should be able
to watch Monday night football unabated, because you know Monday.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Night football right to night football, and so.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
You're so for us on the West Coast, the game
comes on the five five thirty.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Right, Well, I'm not even home from work yet.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
So it's take. But when I do get home, the
kids are in bed and all that, and I sit
down on that couch to watch that, and I haven't
looked at the scores and don't It is just like
it's coming on right now. All I know is I'm
going to enjoy it. My wife will sit down and
watch it with me.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
It'll be like nothing else.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
I've had a whole day of work and kids and
my beautiful and now I get to enjoy the game.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Brother, It's nothing.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
You know what, You'll start to look forward to it.
You'll start to be like, ooh, I got the game tape.
I do what the Laker games. I got the game tape.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
That's a little bit of a different vibe too, Like
Laker game that tips at seven fifteen.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
You like that.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
There is a time during the year, during the fall,
the winter where the Lakers are playing. The Lakers are playing,
oh I know, San Diego State basketball is playing San
Diego State football and the NFL right yep. And I'm
talking about on a Friday and Saturday, both teams basketball

(54:45):
and football of my college and the Lakers could be
playing and then that next day football.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
So I just tape.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
All of them.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yea, I hear you.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
I tape all of them, so I can't even finish
one of them.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
I the wait till the mor until Sunday morning to
watch it.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I know you too, though, because when there's when those
things are not on, you're busting your ass.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
What dumb?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, I'm not just hanging out.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
How many AAU games do you go to Lord this summer? Good?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Fifty eight?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Brother? Every single weekend?

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Yes, every single we can't for the whole summer.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Uh huh? Where'd you go this weekend?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
No, the summer is over.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Oh, it's just it.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
The weekend before was the final. This that was the final.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
That was the the final game of this past season.
So the new season starts up, you know, in this fall.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
They're not back at school yet are they?

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Oh Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, this week, school Thursday, this week, brother,
you made it Thursday, this week you made good. Lord
hurt my stomach to say it out loud.

Speaker 10 (56:00):
Everybody, every parent, high school, every parent in May. I
can't wait for summer and then August comes.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Oh my gosh, school, get out house, get out of
this house. Oh my gosh, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
All right. I got a few more questions on that.
But also this kind of went a little bit under
the radar, at least for you and me, And we
didn't do the show together last week. I was off.
But Lebron and Jokich and Maverick Carter and a boat
remember that old story. Oh yeah, all right, there's some
things we need to get to on that with something

(56:43):
that was said to me earlier today. So that is
all still ahead. Glad you're with us tonight in the
Fox Sports Radio studios. That's he from Salama, Mark with it.
It's Fox Sports Radio, all right, that's he from I Mark.
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screen when you log in. Okay, fun chat and if
you do want to know what right, like, we're here
to help. I just want people to see and hear
one another. And to me, some of the stuff that
you said just there. Everybody has their like, well the

(57:50):
key to a good relationship, and like, I don't know
if there is just a key. You just have to
have the right mix. But to me, the thing that
just spoils all of the milk, all of it is
when people are competing for their time. And so if
you can find a way to just be like what

(58:12):
matters to you, this is what matters to me, and
no matter how stupid it sounds, just to honor it
and then and then we're gonna be okay, right, and
then we're gonna be okay. And if you do want
to watch football all day and your significant other, just

(58:33):
belly aches and barks at you the whole time. You're
in trouble.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
That's all I have to say.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
All I'm saying is you're in trouble. Just married. Just
get to know the person you married. That's all I'm
gonna say.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You want to know one of the things. And and
my my lovely new bride gets all the credit for this.
I want to know one of the things that we did.
Was her suggestion. She goes, look low stakes, but let's
just do a fantasy league family only. Look at this

(59:12):
one family only. There are five kids, not all of
them are involved. Some of them really don't even know
the difference between a football and a basketball. But if
anybody wants to be in the family league, and they
want to, then they're going to do this. And this
brings together the grandparents and their grandchildren, and then we're

(59:33):
right in between. And then you have this second generation
and the third generation, and everybody gets on a zoom
the first week of September. And therefore it keeps us connected,
even though we live in multiple cities and multiple states
and trash talking one another over text. But most importantly,
it just keeps all of the television sets in all

(59:56):
of those homes.

Speaker 11 (59:57):
Locked in, locked in when it comes to Sundays, invite
everybody to your stupid party, and then maybe you get
to keep your party that's locked in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
So some got said to me over lunch today friend
of mine who works for an NBA team, and there
was this Lebron Jokic Maverick Carter out on a boat thing.
I'm abob that happened a couple of weeks ago, and
everyone's like, reportedly they're talking about a different league. And

(01:00:39):
I don't know how you first received that, but I
was just like, okay, whatever, you know, Lebron's getting ready
for retirement and Maverick Carter businessman.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Okay whatever. It got described to me today again just
as a rumor, but that the word on the street
was this is sort of akin to the Live of Basketball, okay,
And I thought, Wow, what an interesting thing to bring

(01:01:14):
up to Ephraim tonight. And Brionn is going to join
us in one minute, so we can get to it
a little bit on the other side. But you and
I have had a lot of conversations about all the
negativity that was around Live and we're trying to kind
of break it down a little bit to be Like,
what would you all do if you were offered two
hundred million dollars and a lot more money for your

(01:01:37):
time and a lot less time at work? Like you've
defended those who chose to go to live golf, even
though I think I could also argue on an individual
scale they're not wrong. But on a global scale, it
kind of messed up golf. It kind of messed it up.
Like I watched less golf now than I used to.

(01:01:59):
All Right, so what would happen and how would you
feel if Lebron or anyone else for that matter started.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
A live of basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
And players could get forget seventy million a year, two
hundred and seventy million a year to go play in
Dubai one game.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
A week, season seasons, three months long.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Run it well, okay, so let's let's get Brianni in here,
and then let's let's I want to hear some actual right,
but yeah, let's find out what's trending.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Brianna muro is, here.

Speaker 8 (01:02:44):
Are you guys? Starting? In Major League Baseball? The Cubs
and Cardinals are tied to to top of the six inning,
Matt Shaw just hit a two run home run to tie.
Oh wait oh, totally lost my train of thought, so sorry, guys.
The Brewers walked it off earlier against the Met seventy
six for the ninth straight win. Cal Rowly hit his
MLB leading forty fifth home run of the season as

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the Mariners defeated the Ray six to three for their
seventh straight win. The Blue Jays scored late and beat
the Dodgers a five to four. Justin Verlander became the
tenth pitcher in MLB history with thirty five hundred strikeouts.
It wasn't enough, as the National shutout the Giants eight
to zero. The Ashos beat the Yankee seven to one.
New York has lost seven of their last nine. Aaron

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Boone was ejected for the fifth time this season in
the third inning, just totally falling apart and baseball teams
in New York. The Mets loss have lost seven in
a row. A week one of the NFL preseason is
in the books after the Chargers defeated the Saints twenty
seven to thirteen. Chargers quarterback Trey Lance went seven to
fourteen fifty five passing yards along with forty eight rushing

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yards and one rushing touchdown. Saints quarterback Tyler shuck fifteen
of twenty two, one touchdown, one interception, Spencer Ratler seven
to eleven, along with fifty three yards and earlier Dolphins
at Bears they ended in a tie at two twenty
four and news out of the NFL Eagles. Three time
Pro Bowl guard a Landon Dickerson was carted off the
practice field earlier this evening with a leg injury and

(01:04:08):
he was unable to put any weight on it. It
was a public practice of training camp and it was
held in front of fifty thousand fans, so they all
witnessed that. And then Titan running back Taje. Spears was
diagnosed with the right high ankle sprain and he'll be
out for a few weeks. Thank you guys for hating me.
Hang out with you for a little while.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Have a good night, Rianna. You are welcome anytime. Thank
you any time.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:04:31):
Go Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Spencer Rattler, girl there she is forever until week two.
I don't know the Saints. I don't know what to
do with the Saints this year.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Who knows, man, I mean, who knows?

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
But yeah, let's let's talk this out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Mark Willardy from Salaam Fox sports radio studios. Thankful that
you're with us tonight. How would you feel if that happened?
And and and and Lebron and Maverick Carter started a new league
and it split the Stars into two different leagues.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
This is what I think can happen.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
I think there is room for a league that runs
not parallel to the NBA. I think if you're building
a global what they are the NBA is a global brand,

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and I think there's something to be said about I'm
just gonna throw some names out there, okay, of guys
who can still play at a high level or that
are not in the league anymore. The league is getting younger.
The league wants to get younger outside of the outliers
and you know the greats with the KD and Lebron

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and Steph and they.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
You know, the.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Younger you can get in the in the NBA, the
better teams field, because then you can build it out
with the Shay's and the Jayden Williams, like the Jets
and and all of that. You gotta remember, the league
is very small, so once these new talented players come in,
the other ones got to go somewhere. You got to
go somewhere. They got the G League, and you spend

(01:06:21):
your whole career in the G League, and and and
and all of that. But for me, I think there
is a place where you can create a league, and
it could be a global league. You play games in Japan,
you play games in France, you play all over of

(01:06:42):
NBA players and some stars who can still play similar
to the Big Three, but in real basketball, right, and
then you can put some young up and coming talent
with those guys and and and kind of get them
ready for the league. Because when you look at a
Michael Beasley, you look at Atlanta and Stevenson, you look
at these guys who can still play, but there's nowhere

(01:07:05):
for them to play. These guys I'm talking about, these
guys are thirty two years old, thirty three years old,
they're out of the league. They're done yet they made
some money and all of that. Javelle McGee, Dwight Howard, right,
these guys can play basketball. So if you were to
create something where it could work on a global scale,
because if you take these stars and these teams abroad,

(01:07:28):
people they're clamoring to see this, they're clamoring to see it.
I think there's a space where you can live there.
But if you were creating a league to rival the NBA,
I mean, I don't know. Now the money is the

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money Now, if you if you were saying what you
were saying, would.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
You say.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
A year?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I all, like, not necessarily a year, but maybe maybe maybe,
I mean the structure of it would be tbd. But
if the idea is is that you're tapping into this
Saudi money again, just like golf did. If I don't,
I don't know how you feel, it feels limitless.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Yeah, what it is, that's how it feels, don't you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Tiger Woods before he's he's sort of like stopped playing,
was off.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
For a billion dollars. Yeah, turned it down, and then
six months later they merged with Live.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
He was like, wa, sorda sorta. I mean they haven't
really merged. They kind of like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
They're in partnership.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
If it's still not playing together.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
But it'll be. It's that's all being worked out. It's
not if you're over there you can't be with us.
It's not that anymore. And that's what it was. Wow,
it was if you play live, you can't play in
this this and that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
That's not the case anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Well, but it's still a hybrid of that. I mean, like, yes,
they come together from majors, but you do not have
guys that are going back and forth.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
No no, no, no, no no, you can play in the majors,
but they remember they said you couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
They were trying with that, right, Yeah, and then there's
the World Golf Ranking points, there's all this stuff, but yeah,
you still you still have a separation of tours. And
so when you have your non major tournament, and I'm
not saying that these were huge draws to begin with,

(01:09:27):
but when you have your non major but still big
PGA Tour event, like it's completely watered down because a
good strong handful of the biggest names in golf are
not there. And how would you feel if on some
level that would happen in the NBA, Like you came
up with a little bit of a twist on the idea,

(01:09:49):
maybe that's how it would go, Maybe it wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
I think that's the way it works, as I think,
because I think there's a market there. I think there's
a mark for something like that. Because the NBA is
becoming a true global brand, that's where all the money
comes from for their they're not they didn't get the
broadcasting rights because people watching in the US, I can

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tell you that it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
It's not here.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Well, but those streaming rights are international, so these, you know,
people all over the play. NBA is a big business globally. Now,
if you can construct a league with professional players NBA
guys who can now play a certain amount of games
in this whatever league you want to call that, and

(01:10:41):
that's the league that travels, and that's the league that
it's similar to what the Big Three was. Right, ice
Cube came up with an idea of these guys can
still play, Like what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
I'm into that. All I'm saying is you and this
hour have a lot more faith in the business goals
maybe of Maverick Carter that I do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Yeah, but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I'm not saying that he's nefarious or even wrong. But
if we do look at the way that Maverick and
Lebron James think, forget any rumor just look at the
way they think. And there is some backing to their
thought process, but their thought process is we're bigger than

(01:11:23):
the sport.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
Well, the NBA has created that. Yes, they have the
NBA is a player's lead, no.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Doubt, and Lebron is the poster for that with player
empowerment and movement and then.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Look right magic like, so the NBA is built on that, right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
But I think Lebron in terms of being a businessman
more so.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Than those previous absolutely, And I say that even with
what Jordan ended up doing with the shoes. But if
you look like even at the way he's handled this offseason,
Luca the Laker, and now we're like submitting letters to
the public. Oh, Lebron is not terribly happy with the director.

(01:12:06):
It's like wow at age forty. And again this isn't
a criticism. I get it. Lebron, James and Steph Curry.
If we were in debate class, they've got a pretty
good pitch to the idea that we're bigger than you.
Will we drive your ratings. When the Pacers play the thunder, whoop,

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there go the ratings.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
So we're bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
So what's to say that they're not thinking like Phil
Mickelson was once upon a time.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Well, I'll tell you this, if this was ten years
ago and Lebron and Steph were Lebron and Steff ten
years ago, then the NBA would have calls for concern.
But those two individuals are seemingly close to being on

(01:12:58):
their way done.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
But who they meet with on a yacht?

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Yeah, but yeah, Nicole.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
That nicolais what's to stop them from going to Wemby
and Cooper Flag and saying we will pay you double
per year.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
Because those guys haven't had their feel of the league yet.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
You understand, like you know a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Of DGA tour players who are on the outside or
the outskirts or.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Yeah, but those guys coming out, those guys aren't on
the outside, are the outskirts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
That's the difference.

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
Now, if you go to somebody like a Stan Johnson, Right,
if you go to Stan Johnson and be like, hey,
we want to pay you this much money, You've never
made this much on in the NBA and probably never will.
Stan Johnson is gone. But if you go to Cooper Flag,
whose earning potential is a billion dollars in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
What can you offer him two billion? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
But how like you get what I'm saying, Like he hasn't,
He hasn't gotten his thing. If you go to Wemby,
he hasn't. Right, He's going to make whatever he's going
to make. So it doesn't make sense in terms of
that because for them, they know the money is there.
For the golfers, those golfers who went to Live, they're

(01:14:12):
making more money than they've ever made.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Well, but again and the good ones who went, Yeah,
what about them?

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
They got a lump sum up front.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Right, and what's to say that wouldn't happen here?

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Yeah, but what's the lump sum? Like if you say
Cooper Flag, I'll give you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
I have no idea, Jason Tatum, but what if it's
what if it's what if it is two hundred million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
For one year of basketball?

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
No, just love some to come beyond our league?

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
No, because that's not even right, Like, why not two
hundred million to come be in this league?

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
The thing that has to happen. And what Live had
was they already had the broadcasting rights. They had already
secured the rights to broadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
For the league.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
So now if if.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
You say Lebron Nicola, Steph and the powers that be
have gone to Apple, are gone to Netflix, right, are
gone to who what is an other national one? I
think Apple, Netflix, Amazon A Video Amazon, Amazon, And they've

(01:15:21):
secured they've secured viewership rights.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
What would stop them?

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Now, that's a different conversation because everybody who plays in
the NBA wants to be seen playing in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Unless you can offer them so much money Dustin Johnson,
Brooks Koepka that you don't give a rip if anybody
sees you anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
And that's a different thing. Those guys have, Like I said,
Dustin Johnson Kepka, they've been playing for how long?

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Long? Ish long? Ish's old?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
They made more money and lived than they've ever made
in PGA, and they're making.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
It faster, right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
So basketball is a different animal.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
It is. It's a completely different animal. And when we're
talking about a sport that the majority of people don't watch,
when we're talking about golf. Now you have golf fans,
you have golf enthusiasts, but on a large scale, when
you look at ratings, where does golf land?

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Oh lower, much lower?

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
So it's an easier thing to right now when you
talk about Look, the NFL is showing you right now,
right the NFL number one is an owner driven league.
It's not a players league, and they're cornering the market
on viewership. Yep, they're they're, they're they're giving you the
blueprint of how to expand and take over. They have

(01:16:51):
every streaming service scrambling now to buy for sure different
type of content, sure sports based content to go along
with the live sports packages that they just purchased for
billions of dollars. Netflix, Amazon, Apple, and YouTube. They all

(01:17:14):
have the NFL. They all have the NFL, right right,
So they're showing you, oh no, no, no, this is
how we take over. So I'm saying if players went
to the streamers the nation, the global streamers and say hey,
and I'm not talking about a weekend window. I'm talking

(01:17:37):
about the window where the NBA plays at any given time.
You know, well, in nine games at night.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Maybe that's next. Maybe it's next. Here we got a pause.
We can keep going with this. Plus at the top
of the hour, an interesting comment from Steph Curry. That's
all still ahead. Mark Willity from Salam Fox Sports Radio, Okay,
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Mark Worthy from Salam Okay, quick
question for you. Top of the album. Get to the
Steph Curry stuff. Next hour, we fill in the blank

(01:18:11):
the worst run NFL organization is. And then we fill
in the blank. But this is kind of just stream
of consciousness. You know, the internet is buzzing right now.
You heard Brianna talk about it last hour. Three time
Pro Bowl guard Landon Dickerson of the Philadelphia Eagles was
carted off the practice field tonight, unable to put any

(01:18:35):
weight on his leg. Now I don't know the extent
of the injury, but that's the news that we've got.
And you know, one of their other starting guards from
last year, Mackay Beckton, left in free agency, and so
I'm also hearing and this is good for fantasy football drafters.

(01:18:56):
There's a lot of people out there kind of predicting
for Sakuon Barkley this year, some form of what happened
to Christi McCaffrey last year. When you lead the league
in touches, when you go close to four hundred touches,
are you in a bad spot the following year? Yes,

(01:19:18):
And by the way, you went all the way to
the Super Bowl. That's true for McCaffrey the year before.
It's true for Barkley this year.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
So you say yes, yes, I mean Jamal Anderson in
ninety eight for US I had the most carries ever
and all the way to the Super Bowl at eighteen
hundred and forty six yards. I believe it was a

(01:19:46):
one man wrecking crew and not throwing this out there
wishing this on anybody. The next year, I think week
three towards ACL Yep, the body doesn't give back the carries.
The body doesn't give back the carries, so you can
stay in shape and all that, but the body it

(01:20:08):
I mean, what about.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
A bounce back later? Like is McCaffrey in a better
spot this year? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Yes, absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Okay, that's interesting. Everybody hear that for your fantasy drafts? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Will do you hear what Steph Curry had to say?
That's next?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
I get why the word exists, I really do. I'm
not saying we should take it out of the English language,
but it is one of my least favorite words. That
word is realistic. I'm really not into the word realistic
because I don't necessarily know if we really know what
is and what is not realistic. And by the way,
if we only live by what's realistic, aren't we basically

(01:20:54):
xing out the possibility of all the great stuff. If
someone had come to you freshman year San Diego State
and said, yeah, rookie starter in the NFL four years
from now, realistic?

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Not really really? Yes, okay, And there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Because you ignored the word, you can achieve some damn things.
So that's why I really don't love when people and
we do this in sports a lot that's not realistic.
And I'm like, you're probably right, but isn't it boring
to not try or shouldn't we at least leave open

(01:21:35):
the possibility? And this does come down to something that
front offices in all sports have to sort away, like
should we go after something?

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Should we not go after something?

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
We just had the trade deadline in baseball, I think
a team is looking at their chances and going is
this realistic? And I do think sometimes you have to
keep open for the possibility of a great run. In
the second and a half, we're broadcasting live Fox Sports
Radio Studios. Here's why I bring it up. Check this out,
try it on for size. I want your opinion. It'll

(01:22:08):
be very helpful to me as a Warrior follower and talker.
Steph Curry Serious EXEM Radio. Take a listen to what
he says about a championship still being ahead in his career.

Speaker 12 (01:22:21):
I truly believe we can be championship relevant in the
sense of we're not probably not gonna be the favorite
in any conversation, but that we have a team that's
capable of achieving that level. Again, knowing all that we've
been through over the last thirteen years and those four
trophies over there, so to add to that would be amazing.

(01:22:44):
I think it's realistic to build towards that. I think
for me, that's literally the only thing I'm playing for
at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
It's literally the only thing I'm playing for at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
End quote. So should he still be playing?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Not there? I mean no, whoa, whoa, that took a turn.
No what I'm saying, I mean, not there?

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
If he because what he said was weird, like the
team there. Now, if you woke up tomorrow and Steph
Curry was traded to Dallas or Steph Curry was traded
to Okay, see for whatever, like, then that's a different conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Oh wow, but.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
He's talking about there, And so no, because number one,
number one, they're undersized, they don't have any size, and
the West is just getting bigger and they won't they
can shoot, or he can.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Shoot the shoot. I think they need more shooting.

Speaker 5 (01:23:47):
They do need more shooting, because without Clay, they lost
a bunch of of of of three point field goals.
Now they'll sporadically get them, but as they're currently constru
they're not big enough to outduel or out punch or
out play anybody in the West.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
How many times are the top four teams?

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Help me with this, because now we're projecting, and that's
fair because that's what we do.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Of course we have to.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
But help me with this, because it's the month of August.
That means one to three months ago. Three months ago,
that team as currently constructed, without an offseason of help,
that team sat with a one nothing road lead in

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the second round of the Western Conference playoffs, and then
that man you just heard up walked off the court
and didn't come back and they never won another game.
But you could almost start with this, do you think
that they win that series or have a chance to
if he doesn't get hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
I think they do have a chance to win that series.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Okay, so then if they win that series, well, now
you're in the conference finals.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Now you're in there in the conference finals.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Is that not sort of what he's talking about in
terms of championship relevance.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
Yeah, but what I'm saying is number one, it was
a grind for them to even get there for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
Part of that a whole doug that before Jimmy Butler
played for.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
The team though, right right, And so now you have
to go through that whole gauntlet again. Now all of
your stars are aging. For sure, there is no young energy.
Would you agree with that? Not no young energy when

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you think about it, like an impactful young energy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I mean yet, no, not someone that you rely on
night in and night out to sort of like spark you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
Now, so we need steph uh, Jimmy and Draymond to
be healthy for at least at least at least sixty
sixty five games.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Yeah, that's what I figured you'd say. Yeah, yeah, you do.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Is that doable?

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
It's doable?

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Is it likely? I don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
But now here now we're not likely. We've circled right
back to our word realistic.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
So that's why I say, no, it's not. I don't
think it's because the West is getting better. They're not
getting weird. It's not the same West as last year.
Houston is not the same team. No, but again, Dallas
is not the same team. Well we're projecting, yeah, we're
what I'm just saying in terms of what teams have
done this offseason in the draft, so and so forth, I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Don't know what on earth Dallas has done to scare you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
They've gotten a player.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
No, no, they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
They're not.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
I mean they drafted someone that we think is going
to be good, but he's never played before.

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
San Antonio is not going to be san Antonio. Off
last year, I can promise you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
That you wouldn't think you would.

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
So the Lakers won't be the Lakers of last year.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Well, Lakers last year were a fifty one team. They're
pretty good.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
Like I said, they won't be that team. They'll be better.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Oh, they'll be better. Okay, So maybe this thing of.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
It's easy to say that coming off and just like
you say, well, go back three months ago and they
were there. But now if you go a year in
three months, this not that they were not there, right,
it's it's a it's a different.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
So they got better even as they know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:35):
What I'm saying. If you fast forward a year, Oh
and well, I don't know what's gonna happen, Like, no
one knows what's gonna happen. But what I'm saying is
in order for as they're currently constructed, and order for
them to have a shot realistically at winning another championship.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
I mean, do you know what's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
When we say as currently constructed?

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
And I'm quite confident that when basketball rolls around again,
they won't be constructed.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
It'll be different. It'll be a different team.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
They'll probably be even older.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Yeah, and that's not supposed Supposedly, Al Horford.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Is going to be honest and not what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
That's what they want.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
That's not what you need right now. It's a good player,
you don't need that well, Al Horford. But he's forty.
He about to be forty.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Lebron James is forty, Al Horford, you're not asking him
to do that, Lebron James.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
No, he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
But you're also not asking him to do nearly as
much or even play nearly as much.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
What I'm telling you is it's tall, the gauntlet you
have to go through, with the eighty two games and
the rigors of it, it doesn't bode well for getting older.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
But now if they, if Al Horford included, if they
can all play sixty five games together, they'll be in
the mix.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
But I guess the question becomes, even if I agree
with your premise, are you basically suggesting that either he
and or the Warriors should not be approaching things the
way that they are.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
That's the only outlook you can have.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
You can't and Steph Curry is as storied as he is,
he can't go into the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
And be like, uh, I don't know, man, maybe play.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
In Yeah, No, who's got the energy for that?

Speaker 5 (01:29:31):
And he wouldn't suggest sometations are high.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
And you wouldn't suggest some sort of youth twist or
movement from the Warriors, would you?

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
I mean he had the pieces in place. They botched it.
I mean severely, which part the youth movement the guys
who was supposed to be coming in to help and
push the team.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Right, But they botched it by who they picked or
by how they used.

Speaker 5 (01:29:53):
It, how they developed them and used them right, Like
Jordan Poole. If it wasn't for Jordan Poole, they don't
win the championship because what he was doing was unbelievable.
They mismanaged it all and let it get all crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Well, I don't know if they mismanaged it. He got
punched in the face, baymate.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
But that's what I'm saying. They saw this brute. Come on, man,
what it just didn't happened that day?

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
No it didn't. But that's why. And this is where
I I this. I hesitate very much so because what
what ends up happening is people start accusing talkers of.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Like victim shaming.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
But I I know, I know for a fact that
there were some dynamics at play. Of course, there were
some dynamics the whole season inted off season. There were
some dynamics in play based on money, based on behavior,
based on old guys, young guys, and it and its

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spilled over one day and Draymond lost his bananas and
then here here we end up.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
But so how would you suggest that the team do something?

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
So this is what it is, right, Okay, So they
brought Kaminga and Jordan Poole in to give that youthful spark.
I would just mention it correct, And they did exactly that.
They They everything they needed from the young guys coming
in they got from those two and it led all
the way to a championship. But he was just coming in.

(01:31:24):
He was athletic, play some defense, get a rebound, dunk
on somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
That's what you needed at the time. He was a kid.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Yeah, he would dunk right the defense and rebounding thing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
Yeah, But what I'm saying is, ok the kid had
been playing basketball really for like four years.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
No criticism of him.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
So you have to develop that. Okay, as a team,
you have to develop that. What if the player won't
what do you mean, what if the player want? What
if the player is being asked and developed? No, No, you
have to develop you know, you have to develop him,
like you have a whole staff to develop players. But
this is what I know for a fact. What happens

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on a veteran led team. There's less development because your
culture is set. It's there. So you don't have the
attention to those young guys that you're going to really need.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
No doubt.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
And so what happens So let me and so what
happens is you get to the mountaintop, you win with
the old guys, so you feel like, oh, we still
got it, we can still do this. I said after
that championship. They need to break this thing up a

(01:32:42):
little bit and usher in the new guys and put
them in more prominent roles to help them develop. They said, no,
we want to run it back, and the Wills fell
off that thing, right, the Wills fell off.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Well, they wanted all those young guys.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
They paid.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
They paid Draymond what they paid them.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
They also paid Jordan Poole.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
They paid Jordan Poole, and they didn't want the money
that they offer him. Well, that wasn't about money. But
what I'm saying is you gotta be like, let them go,
like the Jordan Poole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
I mean, isn't that the Warriors doing what you were
saying to do. They did let Clay go.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
Yeah, but that's they one year too late. Fair, that's
what I was saying. I was saying, No, you got
the young guys who've shown a flash, and that's exactly
what you want, a young player coming in and helping
you get to the mountaintop and then you kind of
ignore them.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
They have a different team right now, but there'll be
a kaminga would be a different player. Jordan Poole, if
kept in check, would be a different player for them.
Maybe maybe it's it's all about the culture. Those three
guys were locked in and they weren't letting anybody get
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
But you acknowledge the power and the weight of that,
what those three had achieved, and absolutely difficult it is
for an organization to rage against that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
Why do you think what's them call it? What's his name?
Who he left GM? What's his name? By Myers?

Speaker 10 (01:34:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
By Myers?

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
Oh yeah, he saw he I'm almost positive he was
in there saying, hey, guys, we need to do this,
and they were like, no.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
How much time did he spend with his family? When
he left to spend time with his family?

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
Right exactly. And so all I'm saying is he saw
the writing on the wall. That's a real thing. You
would leave something that was cooking and building up for
more of a run. He saw, and I'm sure he
was against the direction they end up going. So he
was like, look, I appreciate you, guys. I'm gonna step

(01:34:56):
over here and do something else. And we saw what
inspired after that. That's what I mean by those guys
would have been and the team would have been a
different team right now. Now they're just old. Now they're
just old. They're undersized and they're older.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
We'll still good.

Speaker 5 (01:35:15):
No, I'm not saying they're not good at all. Still
got the greatest shooter of ever on the team, and
that dude can get hot. But can he get hot
sixty five times? Can Jimmy Butler play in the regular
season like he does in the playoffs, which he hasn't done.
Can Draymond Green not be ejected or not cause you

(01:35:37):
to lose games?

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Well, he did better without last year.

Speaker 5 (01:35:39):
But just all I'm saying is when you have a
body of work, now we can start making assumptions and
projecting based on your body of work. If Jimmy Butler
played every game like he does in the playoffs, this
would be a different conversation. That's not the case, and

(01:36:00):
it has been, it hasn't been. Can Steph Curry stay
healthy for sixty five games?

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
At his age? Yeah, I mean running nine miles a game.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
He did last year?

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Did he stay healthy the whole year? How many games?

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
You said sixty five?

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
How many the whole year?

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
How many? How many play I don't know, I'll look.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
It up, look at it. Let's look it up. I will,
I will, I think he played sixty five.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Well, we'll see after coming back at the end of
the after the break.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
Stay with three. Steph Curry played seventy games last year.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
That's perfect. Can he get seventy in this year?

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Of course he can? No, We mean no, right, all right?
Fill in the blank.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
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How would you like to fill that in? Worst run
team in the NFL right now? Is?

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
Oh? Probably the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
That's why I asked, Like, that's crazy to say. It's
also the most expensive team in all of sport. So
and it's not like they're well it's not and they're
not a perennial doormat. But I don't know if we're

(01:38:05):
being prisoner of the moment. I'm so confused, So let
me let me like, okay, yeah, no, go ahead. I'm
so confused. And with Michael Parsons, I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
We're all confused. But because the brand is so valuable,
it can survive in eptness. And that's the problem. No
matter what Jerry does or doesn't do, the brand doesn't

(01:38:36):
get diminished. So you can be as reckless or as
as wild as you want your businessman number one, and
the business is booming. He's been running the franchise like
that for decades, stirring the pot. As long as they're

(01:38:57):
talking about the cowboys out, I don't care what they're saying.
And so when you're focused on that aspect and not ball,
then you get here. What what an NFC Championship game?
Since with thirty years, yeah you get here. But the

(01:39:20):
most valuable brand in all of sport with no real
success in thirty years, So it lends to being a
dysfunctional franchise. Now, other dysfunctional franchises aren't valued as high,

(01:39:42):
so they're really in there trying to fix the pieces.
But when it comes to the Cowboys, the Cowboys will
be the Cowboys. As Jerry will say, it will always
be America's team, even though Americans have fall in love
with others. But that lens to not really focusing on

(01:40:03):
the things that you need to do to crew put
a championship team together.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
And that's evident.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
So you right now think that the Dallas Cowboys are
more poorly run than the Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Yes, yep, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Yeah. I mean, honestly, those are probably your top two
responses when when we threw that out there, Ville, I guess, yeah, sure, okay,
that's fair like. But but that's why I threw it
out there because I know that those are the names
that come to the forefront and Cleveland has been what
it has been for so long.

Speaker 5 (01:40:41):
And at least they're trying, but they're trying.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Five quarterbacks and we can talk about Shador. I mean,
that was that was a nice night, uh for for him?

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
What'd you think about that? We haven't had a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
I mean it's not like I'm look, I'm not a scout.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
So you know what I want to see from somebody
in the preseason going against Carolina Panther backups is not
even just stats or whatever. It's sort of just comfortability
on an NFL field. Does he look the part, does
he carry himself a certain way? Does he handle pressure
a certain way? And I thought largely it was a

(01:41:20):
pretty good performance from Shdor Sanders fine for what is
now a fifth round draft pick in his first preseason game.
I'm not big and I'm never going to be big
on any draft pick. Like you've still never played in
the NFL, and you're going to go into the locker
room after the game and get mad at a reporter

(01:41:41):
or a host.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Because they don't say nice things about you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Look. Look, you can have whatever opinion you want about that.
I would love for a quarterback on my.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Team to have some really thick skin, really thick skin.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
And it's not even just quarterback, it's kind of any
position for that matter, your professional athlete. And so Shador
look good on the football field, I'd like for him
to cut his rabbit ears off. That's what I think
right now makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Would you think I thought he'd handled himself well? Now?

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
I don't necessarily like the entrance to your own with
your own music playing and all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:42:29):
The game is a little bit more serious than that,
and he will find out that how serious it is.
This is not college, this is not in il money,
and there's a responsibility that you should relish and being
the face of a franchise or have the opportunity to

(01:42:50):
be the starting quarterback in the league. And it has
nothing to do with rap music. It has nothing to
do with your swag or any of that. It has
everything to do with leadership and winning period, nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Mm hm.

Speaker 5 (01:43:01):
So you can, you can have the boombox and you
can all of that. That's cool, yeah, okay, But to
me it just sends the wrong message, right because God
forbid you go out there and it don't go your way.
We must remember there's a lot of work to be

(01:43:24):
done by this young man. Is he talented?

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Of course?

Speaker 5 (01:43:30):
Can he pull it off? We don't know, We don't.
I do not have the answer to that. I don't
not if.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
You're not if you're talking about you Door Sanders, right,
but if you're talking about Steve.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
To say, you're pulled off. If you know he finally
decided to join us. Hello, Steve, take your time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Steve.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Hey, there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
Take your time.

Speaker 9 (01:43:53):
Yeah, made it back early because we're a little shorthanded
this weekend. So I want to say publicly, congratulations. Do
more Martin Weiss for getting married.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Body. Yeah, something in the water did that?

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Everybody? Mark you did that?

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
I know my bet.

Speaker 9 (01:44:08):
I believe he is living with his wife this week.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Then there's one step ahead of me.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
You've got.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
But we've been married three weeks longer, so we know
what we're doing. Yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 9 (01:44:23):
We've got a Sunday Night Bowl game going at Saint
Louis and it's three two Cardinals over the Cubs. Cubs
have put first and second with two outs in the
top of the ninth. The Brewers started the day first
in the NL Central, five games up on the Cubs,
and then Milwaukee won its ninth straight game, getting a
solo homer bottom of the ninth to beat the slumping
Mets seven to six. The Mets have lost eleven of

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their last twelve games. Phillies are first in the NL East,
five and a half games over the Mets. Philadelphia won
four to two at Texas. Toronto beat the Dodgers five
to four in LA, with two solo homers in the
eighties and one in the ninth show. Hey Otani hit
his forty first home run in defeat, but the Dodgers
left sixteen men on base. San Diego six to two
over Boston. The Padres are only two games back of

(01:45:08):
the first place Dodgers in the NL West. The lead
was nine about a month ago, and the Dodgers will
be playing San Diego each of the next two weekends.
Seattle won at seventh straight games, six to three over
Tampa Bay. Cal Raley with its forty first make that
forty fifth home run and it looks like the final
out has just been recorded. At Saint Louis, it is
Cardinals three Cubs to a final. Houston beat the Yankees

(01:45:31):
seven to one in New York two NFL exhibitions. There's
no overtime in the preseason. Raiders found that out earlier
this week. Miami tied at Chicago twenty four. All Dolphins
quarterback Sack Wilson was sacked four times. The Chargers at
home beat New Orleans twenty seven to thirteen. LA quarterback
Trey Lance off the bench had seven carries forty eight yards.

(01:45:53):
Taylor Heineke started and was one of five passing eight
yards one sack. Eagles Pro bowlguard Land and Dickerson was
carted off at practice with a leg injury. Titans running
back Tyja Spears is expected to be out for a
few weeks with a high ankle sprain. WNBA Minnesota is
now twenty seven and five after winning at New York
eighty three to seventy one NASCAR victory for Shane Van

(01:46:15):
Gisberg and at Watkins Glen is fourth win on a
road course this year. Will Power took the IndyCar event
in Portland, and we did have golf today. Yes, we're
toward the end of the seasons. The live golf season
was well. They had to stop in Chicago, which apparently
is the only city to have hosted live golf for
its first four seasons. Effect As I was reading up

(01:46:36):
on this weekend's tournament, one writer put it, and the
customary twenty million dollar perst is on the light. It's
like ho hum. They're offering twenty million dollars total for
three days of golf, and the usual winning check of
four million dollars offered today. And it goes to Dean Burmaster,
who defeated two other golfers in the first toll of

(01:46:57):
a playoff. One of those two others was John R.
Burmester's a thirty six year old from South Africa. And
by the way, right after he won in a playoff,
his team won in a playoff, so he splits some
of the team cash as well. He gets four million
dollars as the winner. John Rahm and the guy he
tied with about one point eight million dollars each. But

(01:47:20):
on the PGA Tour they have started the playoffs and
today it took three extra holes to get a winner.
In Memphis, it's Justin Rose who beat out in a
playoff the US Open champion JJ spawn. Rose had made
four birdies on his last five holes in regulation. He's
now won twelve times on the PGA Tour. The customary purse,

(01:47:41):
you know, it's like live golf usually has the twenty
mil perse. That's how much the purse was today or
this weekend, I should say, for the PGA Tour, the
winners check was three point six million dollars for Justin Rose.
By the way, Scotty Scheffler tied for third with Tommy Fleetwood.
They each get about one point one million. But I
must mention here it was decided in a playoff and

(01:48:04):
the third hole of one. On top of that, the
difference between winning or not winning the playoff was one
and a half million dollars. That's not the check for you,
that's the difference in the checks. Well, we got first round,
let's say, of the playoffs this weekend. We've got golf
in Maryland, BMW Championship next weekend, and then the PGA's

(01:48:26):
Tour Championship in Atlanta, so we are nearing the end
of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
Back to you, great stuff, Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
I get nervous if I have like twenty dollars or
just like a hat at the pro shop on the
line when I'm playing with buddies. One point five million
dollars basically on the line.

Speaker 9 (01:48:44):
On a third hole of a playoff, on a third hole.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Wow. Uh, that's impressive, and that I'd also like to
go back to something that you said just a couple
of minutes in to your time there. Am I to
understand that there is a racer out there who's name
is will Power.

Speaker 9 (01:49:01):
That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
That is the greatest name I've ever heard in the
history of.

Speaker 9 (01:49:04):
Sports par not for years on the indie car circuit. Yes,
will Power, I fairly had it today.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
I'm very impressed.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
I just googled him and his middle name is Stephen,
so I just wanted to throw that in there. But
will Power, that's I've never heard of a better name
in sports.

Speaker 9 (01:49:30):
We could come up with a few, but that's going
to be on the list somewhere.

Speaker 5 (01:49:33):
Yeah, middle name should be freaking.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
That's actually a great point, which almost rhymes with steven,
so we could probably just do it. I say we
go with it. Incredible, all right, Well, great to hear
your voice before we get out of here, Steve. Thank you, Yeah,
thank you much, Steve Desager, everybody and will Power a
will Power update. I don't know. I'm into the point

(01:49:56):
you were just making about your door and maybe that's
a little bit of what he's missing will Power or
maybe not, Well, okay, how do you mean? In other words,
the NFL sort of standard that I think you're representing
with your point is going to ask for him to

(01:50:19):
not do stuff like this, but he is and and
he defiantly will I don't really have an issue with it.
I love authenticity. If that's who you are be you.
But it's no different than now, I'm gonna forget his name.
Who's my guy in the NBA draft who went to
Utah fifth overall but he wanted to go to Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Who's my guy? He's Bailey? Thank you? Like I think
you show up in a locker room with a couple
of strikes against you already. When you do stuff like that,
if you can handle it, great, be it two strike hitter.
But I wouldn't do it. But I think that that's

(01:51:00):
that's kind of the net result in today's day and age.

Speaker 5 (01:51:05):
The only problem with doing things like that is you
don't give yourself any leeway. You don't give yourself any
room to grow into being a player. When you come
in like you've been doing it for ten years and
you're all pro, that's a cliff that you will step

(01:51:30):
off of. There's a cliff, there are spikes at the
bottom of that. And so when you come in like that,
you don't give yourself any room to make a mistake, right,
to have a bad game. That's a lot of pressure
to put on yourself. Now you can say, well, I've
done it in high school, I've done it in college,

(01:51:51):
I've done it in YadA, YadA, YadA. This ain't that.
They're grown men out there feeding their families and so
on and so forth who don't have the stomach for
the shenanigans. Because my tenth year in the league, if
someone comes into the locker room like that, I'm throwing

(01:52:16):
the speaker.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
In the pool.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
I am, I hear you, and the locker room's going
back me yep, Because as an offensive lineman and the
guy responsible for protecting you, brother, this ain't no game.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
This is real.

Speaker 5 (01:52:34):
Now. If Shadura goes on to you gotta remember this
is the four string quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
Maybe right, I'm not caring about.

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
A guy coming in and he's the projected starter and
there's so much work he needs to do to even
see the field. It was a great first step, so
many more to go. And what you do, I don't
want to do is take ten steps forward five steps back.

(01:53:04):
And when you continue to put yourself above the process
and the team, you make yourself an easy target. And
I'm a suaduor Sanders fan, I'm a Dion Sanders fans.
I think he has the ability to really be good

(01:53:25):
in this league. How good is up to him. But
I also know the mindset of being a leader and
a captain in that locker room. I know what that
takes and I know what that looks like. And if

(01:53:45):
your rap single are your song, is your intro, then
are you focused on what's really going on? These are
just real questions and I'm not piling on this. And
you can say there was a lot of tweets like

(01:54:07):
what now, right, you know, like I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
What now?

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
Week two of the preseason, that's what now?

Speaker 5 (01:54:14):
But it came came from people outside of football, you
know what I mean, like Lebron.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
But Lebron was like yeah, King.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
And yeah there was a little now, a little bit
of victory lapping from Dion himself.

Speaker 5 (01:54:28):
But that's a dad. Do you think that's a father? Okay, no,
you know this as a dad, you're like, uh, sometimes
you get caught up in.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
It, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (01:54:39):
But Dion does also know. And Dion came into the
league a little different. Dion came in like that. But
what's that for sure? You know, you show up to
the combine, you run one forty, and you leave. I
mean that's you know, that's how you weren't drafted in
the fifth round, right, right, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
You weren't a back when you were drafted. You you
were drafted to be the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
In baseball as well, So yeah, you can't be Dion
Sanders with that. Case in point, what's his name receiver
Pittsburgh went crazy? Antonio Brown sixth round draft pick. Antonio

(01:55:25):
Brown was who he was no matter what drafted in
the sixth round. Had to put that thing in the bottle,
had to put they had to show up, go to work,
get the deal he got. Then he became who he became.
That's the real That's that's what it is. You got
to lead the league in receiving for three years in

(01:55:48):
a row, get a huge bag, and then you know,
take a hot air balloon to training camp, drive a
tank to training camp. Right, That's that's how that happens.
You don't drive a tank to training camp as a
fifth round draft pick and it's your first training camp.

Speaker 4 (01:56:07):
I got what more for you on the Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
We're in the Fox Sports radio studios and coming up next,
you still did say he's a fourth string quarterback even
though a bunch of them are hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
He played a bunch of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Who do you think is going to start at quarterback
week one for the Browns will do that next on
Fox Sports Radio. These are the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Plank and span your standing by just a few minutes
to go. If you go to the depth chart online,

(01:56:43):
the Browns will list Joe Flacco as QB one, Kenny
Pickett as QB two, Dylan Gabriel as QB three, and
Shade or Sanders's QB four. That's right. Go ahead and
translate that for me in terms of what actually is

(01:57:05):
in the minds of the Browns coaching staff and what
will actually happen week one.

Speaker 5 (01:57:09):
Well, actually happen is Joe Flacco will play a little
bit in one preseason game, probably the next one. He
will be the starter opening week, and there's going to
be a race or competition between Shaduur and Kenny Pickett
to see who is going to be the backup quarterback

(01:57:32):
that dresses out on opening day.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
You will predict that Dylan Gabriel will not even make
the Browns maybe or maybe finds his way to all.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
Right, he'll be the practice squad. Okay, I mean, and
I don't know how severe his injury is.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
Yeah, they're all dealing with stuff yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
So don't'll that'll you know, skew things one way or
the other. But based on if it all was healthy,
that's what I would think. That Dylan Gabriel be a backup?
Can he Pickett may be on another team, Shardure would be, Well,
it's it's the competition they're they're competing, sure, but Dylan

(01:58:17):
Gabriel will be on the team, whether it be on
the practice squad or or whatever. It's a little different
for quarterbacks when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Do you see a window that Shadoor is actually the
backup quarterback for week one?

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, there's a window there.
Will he walk through the window. That's that's up to him.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
Who's starting Week five?

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
Who do they play week five?

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
I don't know. Just you know it matters five five weeks.
I know you want your soft landing spot, right and
I have a soft landing.

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
Yeah, but you're the Browns, so there are no soft landing.

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
Well there are.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
You do week five your home against Minnesota, but it's
actually not home. It's an overseas game.

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
No, you don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:58:57):
You play at six thirty in the morning Pacific time.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
Now, now you gotta le Joe flag take that one.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
That's too much, okay at Pittsburgh week six, home to
Miami week seven, that one, that one, Yep, that's your door.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
That's your door.

Speaker 5 (01:59:11):
Okay, if he does what he's supposed to do. And
the reason I say that, I mean, look, they love him.
There there aren't many places you can go buy a
rookie fifth round draft pick jersey. They're selling them in

(01:59:31):
the chip store. They were all over the stadium, and
they were on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
Yeah. So, but there are teams that lean sometimes a
little too hard into their marketing, which flies in the
face of everything that you were just saying, what this
locker room is gonna be all about.

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (01:59:54):
The guy like Miles Gary wants to win, but they
don't care about no song or no none of that
you want to And he's the leader of the team,
so he's not one for the foolishness. I can promise
you that.

Speaker 4 (02:00:10):
My man has always really good to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
Great job, man, and we'll be back at it next week,
one week closer to week one.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
Until then, Free from a Mark

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