Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Talk Fred Warner's Injury Impact For The 49ers, React To Lions Vs Chiefs On SNF, Tua's Recent Comments After The Loss, Drake Maye Hype, And More!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio six in the
National Football League, And as always, by the time we
take here, the world is all different.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
And I need everybody who's ever even thought that they've
fallen in love.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I need every one of you to listen to me closely,
because some believe in love at first sight. Others think
that it takes time. But Ephraim, no matter when it
is or how it is, I bet everybody can relate
to this. Have you ever when you met someone that
you fall in love with at first sight where you're like,
I don't really see her or him like that, but

(00:39):
then over time it kind of changed.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
And then vice versa too.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Sometimes you're like, wow, it hits you in the face
right when you meet someone, but then over time you
see them in a different light, I would imagine. And
good evening to you. You can relate to what I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
About, of course, Man, of course I fall in love.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
How many times?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I remember when I went on my recruiting trip to
San Diego State. Okay, my brother was already down there
a year before me, and he was telling me all
the while I was a senior in high school, Yo,
it's this girl out here man Bro. So when I
went out my recruiting recruiting trip, he played basketball there

(01:21):
and I went for football, and I was with him
the whole time. Like the football team was mad. They
were mad at me because I didn't meet the coaches,
I didn't see the stadium, I didn't do anything. When
I got there off the plane, he came and got me.
And Sunday morning, about five thirty am, they came and

(01:42):
knocked on the door when they found out where I
was and took me into the office and reprimanded me
because they said I used this trip just to come
hang out and I wasn't serious about it. And after
they got all out off their chests, I was like, no,
I'm I'm coming here and they were like what I said, No,
I'll sign right now. I'm this is where I'm coming.

(02:04):
So then it was all great. But the first place
he took me, he knocked on her door and I
was like, oh my god, she's the one, So yeah,
I have fallen in love at first sight. And then
we did Dayton all that when I got there and
it was great. Still great friends now and oh great, yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, your your wife's amazing for being secure enough to
handle about.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
But but but what I what I will say, She,
my wife always pulls this crap. Oh, she's the one
that got away. And I'm like, what are you talking about.
You're the one, You're my one.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
She's the one that got away. No, baby, no, you
heard the one. Because when the night I met her,
I was it was over. The night I met my wife,
I knew I was done.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
If if she got away, then there was a reason
she got away.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Period.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Here's why I'm talking about he from I'm talking about
Baker Mayfield. It's time from Maddy to see this man
in a different light. You did not fall in love
with him at first sight. In fact, at first sight
it was like, oh gosh, what a bust, or he's cocky.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Or he's on too many TV commercials.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
And then he goes on a wayward journey to Carolina,
finds himself on like a Monday night in LA and
he's a Rams quarterback for thirty seconds or something like that,
and then here we are. And today, lots of stories
come out of this game. But seventeen of twenty three
two hundred and fifty six yards, two more touchdown throws

(03:35):
does not turn the ball over. I'd like to remind
everybody that Mike Evans is out, Chris Godwin is out.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh, by the way, he lost.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
To Mecca Buka in this game too, and the Bucks
are five and one, and that cocky bust through one
third of this season is.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
The league's MVP. And so as time starts seeing this.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Man in a different light, do you remember what I
said last week?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
You said that he was currently the MVP of the league?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Has that changed?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
It got even better?

Speaker 4 (04:06):
That's where I stand. It got even better. That's where
I stand. And just why. First of all, he's exciting
to watch. If you like watching Josh Allen and Lamar
Jackson and any of the other top elite quarterbacks, then
you're gonna love watching Baker Mayfield. Now he attacks a

(04:28):
little bit different than they do, but when he's trying
to get out of trouble and scrambling, oh, he's one
of the best in the business. He is so poised
and under control when it looks like the house is
on fire that it is. It's beautiful to watch because

(04:52):
people aren't expecting it from him. Now you can say
that Baker Mayfield is average. Are a bust or why
any of that. But going against that San Francisco defense,

(05:13):
they got him one time, they could have had him
four other five other times. Yep. But all he did
was just stay composed. Either run for the first down
or throw for it.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well, you're mentioning run for the first down, and that
is the understatement of the century because the game changing play.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Oh my goods, who.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Might be out and about or having him even in
front of a TV the last couple hours or what
it may have been. And I don't remember the exact
score of the game when it was happening, but I
feel like it was someone in the neighborhood of a
one point game, and the forty nine ers had the
Buccaneers dead to rights on a third and fourteen. They
were set to get the ball back, and I think

(05:53):
they were only down by one, I'll confirm that. But
Baker Mayfield drops back and the whole pocket just completely
broke apart, and there were two defensive linemen right on
Baker Mayfield on a third and fourteen, and he went
down for the sack, except for they didn't get him
down for the sock for.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
A time the second time. That's okay because.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
He rolled out of the pocket and then there were
other defenders waiting for him and whoops, they didn't get
him either. But that's okay because then as he approached
the first down marker, there were two more firing safeties
coming straight at Baker Mayfield that were definitely going to
stop him short of the first down.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And they didn't.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You can focus if you want, and believe you me
a Niner fan in the moment did you can focus
on the ridiculousness, the Keystone Cops nature of the mistackles.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
But the further away you.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Get from the game, you realize that if you were rooting,
if that was your quarterback who went out there and
made a play like that, you wouldn't be thinking about misstackles.
You would think about the brilliance of the fight in
the moment, the courage and the execution to make a
play like that.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
And so that's where I land tonight.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Sure, miss tackles whatever, and we'll get into the Fred
Warner thing, who is out for the year, But.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Wow, just wow, it seems.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
He does it every week every single week. Let me
tell you this, someone named Cameron Johnson and Taz Johnson.
The Johnson and Johnson boys caught. We don't know who
they are. They're the fifth and sixth receiver period, Taz Johnson.

(07:43):
I think this was his first.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
First touchdown catch of his career.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
First.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
These are practice squad guys, our scout team guys. These
are scout team guys. Yep. They're down their first, second,
and third receiver. So that's all starting receivers gone. And
it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. Not everybody can do that.

(08:12):
Nobody can do that. Seriously, guys, these are guys who
haven't gotten reps right in pat with Baker.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I mean, the only thing that And I'm not gonna
like I use this just to sort of bring up
the other side of the point, because I thought these
two teams that were playing today, and it really was.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
A hard fought battle.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
And kind of an entertaining game, they're easily, at least
in terms of big names, they're easily the two most
injured teams in the game. Oh yeah, And they both
walked in here at four and one and grabbed the
late CBS National game window, and I was just like,
I was kind of enamored with the whole thing, the

(08:54):
mac Jones of it all, and then you know, first half,
there goes Fred Warner on a play that just let
me let you know, now, if you haven't seen it,
don't you don't want to see it.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's one of those plays. And so Fred was on a.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Cart and Kyle Shanahan has already announced there will be
a surgical procedure and typically a four to six month thing.
So you know, the most optimistic person in the world
can talk about you know, maybe Fred would return for
the playoffs or something. But to me, Fred Warner has
gone for the year. And I had just was sitting

(09:28):
here with my daughter watching the game he from it.
I had said to her out loud, with Brock Perdy,
George Kittle, Nick Bosa, Brandon Aiyuk and Ricky piersall all out,
I said, you know, you know, the one though, that
they actually really super duper can't replace is Fred Warner.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And I'm not kidding you. Four minutes later the injury happened.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
You can blame me if you want for putting that
into the ethos, but like, you know, sorry, but I'm
like that that guy from the defensive quarterback side, the
emotional leadership, the execution, the best linebacker in the game,
bar None. I'm like, that's really the one they can't afford,
and then that happened too. So Baker Mayfield is going

(10:13):
against a carcass of a football team, but I'm not
going to allow that to take anything away from it
because he kind of had the carcass of a football
team too. Unbelievable. It's unbelievable what those two teams are
out there doing.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, and it goes to it starts up up front.
It starts, you know, with coaching and preparation and getting
these guys ready to go. And as a testament to
so many times we're like, well, you know, he's only
good in the system. Was shouldn't you be good in
the system. Shouldn't that be like a prerequisite that you're

(10:50):
good in the system? Kind of the point, right, I
think this notion of well, look at Matt Jones, he's
doing what brug Purdy and then this and is Shanahan congratulations, Yes,
Because when quarterbacks get to places without a system, no

(11:11):
matter how talent that they are Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald,
they falter. When you put them in the proper system
to help them mature, to help them learn and get better,
then they become starting quarterbacks in the NFL. You want

(11:34):
to go to a system. You don't want to have
the entire team's fate on your shoulders as a rookie quarterback.
The worst thing that can happen. You want to go
to a place where they have a culture and they
have a system. That's what you want as a young quarterback.

(11:59):
Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, they didn't have any of that.
They didn't. They had a fire, a dumpster fire, which
still is a dumpster fire. By the way, those two
teams are, respectively, the Jets and the Browns. I think
they're getting worse. Actually, so don't look at you know,
a rock party or a Mac mac Jones his second

(12:23):
year after making the Pro Bowl, had Matt Patricia as
a offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Come on, they had a defensive coordinator as the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Who's never called an offensive play in his life right right,
That to me is insulting. So you can't look at
mac Jones and be like, oh, he regressed. H No,
the system failed him because it was about ego. It
wasn't about preparing him and getting him better and correcting

(12:56):
his mistakes. They just gave him more mistakes to deal with.
It's amazing how it should be a line of quarterbacks
lined up behind at the knocking on San Francisco's door,
or Minnesota are the Rams like Richardson in Indy, he

(13:22):
should be lining up over there like, hey, let me right,
I need some of that, or any of these other
quarterbacks who we feel are just not good. I'm telling
you him it matters. And to watch Mac Jones come
out there and sling the ball around the yard, I'm
happy for Mac because he obviously has talent, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean you'll look at you know, a lot of
well box score.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Dive today and he did not throw a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
He had two picks, and you know he fumbled the
ball on another time it got overturned. Boy, he was
an inch away from another fumble, and so there was
some ball security stuff. But if you watch the game, boy,
he had some nice throws, right, he really did. One
of the picks was completely not his fault.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
It was on the receiver.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
So I think what you're talking about, for me is
the story of the NFL season, and in some respects
it's bringing up old names. It's not this season. But
what's happening this season is making us realize, for example,
the Jared Golf's of the world.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It already happened with Sam Darnold.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
You're seeing Baker Mayfield, you're watching Daniel Jones, and to
the degree of however lasting, this.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Is Mac Jones in San Francisco as well.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's the story of the season and for me what
it actually means.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
And I think you'll agree with this.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
We always talk from sport to sport like how important
is coaching. There's no sport where it matters more than
football to me.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
In the NBA it's still a player's league.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
And in baseball, for example, I don't even know to
what level the manager like it matters, but my gosh,
they've whittled that whole position down to a laptop computer
at this point. But in football, that system that gets
put in place, and that is sort of the boat

(15:21):
on which all of the players ride. That's the thing, man,
because you're seeing players literally look like MVPs in one
spot and pieces of junk in another.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
The same player, same player. It's amazing. It matters.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Great stuff, all right, we do need to set the
table for the game that's about to kick off. The
Fred Warner injury is yet another brick on the wall
for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
All right, game underway. Let me do a check in
with you.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Last time you and I talked last Sunday night, the
Chiefs were two and two, but they were coming off
of a an inspiring win over Lamar Jackson in the
Baltimore Ravens, so they had righted the ship. And then
they went out on Monday night and they lost themselves
a game to the Jacksonville Jaguar.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Chris Jones looked.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Good there at the end, and now they're in the
midst of playing the Detroit Lions, who I.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Don't know, I might take over anybody right now.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You and I had both taken the Denver Broncos to
win the West. There was the thought about the Chiefs
whether or not they're even a playoff team this year.
They're two and three and have a tough assignment tonight,
just a little friendly check in on what you think
about the chief season.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
I think they're struggling. I think there is a lot
of tired players. It's hard to continue to go back yep,
as far as they go every single year in the

(18:54):
playoffs with the same core group of guys. It's difficult
to do that. And then when you bring in young guys,
it's hard for them to be able to match that
level that you need them to be at immediately. And
they've been able to get away with it because Patrick
Mahomes is spectacular and even when he wasn't spectacular last year, particularly,

(19:18):
their defense was unreal. If you don't have a spectacular
Patrick and your defense slips, then you get to be
two and three, you get to lose a game two
at the time three and one Jaguars team, they tried
everything they could possibly do to lose the game. To you.

(19:42):
I mean people were saying, this is Trevor lawrence Is
coming out party. Well, if that was his coming out party,
go inside, go back inside.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well said, you know, you can always tell. I find
I think like one of the things. And you and
I seem to find a way, one way or another
to talk about this. Every week.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
You and I do Sundays very similarly.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
We find a way to watch all of it, watch
all of it everything. And you could always tell when
you're in a conversation with someone who the only thing
they've done on Sunday is peruse the internet and check
on their fantasy scores. If you think Trevor Lawrence is
playing good football this year, you're missing the games. You're

(20:29):
missing the games. There have been a number of things
that have happened that have landed favorably. The number one
thing Jacksonville is doing. They're turning the other team over constantly.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
They didn't do.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
It today and poof, look what happened. So Trevor Lawrence
is missing open receivers. He's not terribly being helped by
there's some drops he's going on out there at times.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
But Trevor Lawrence is.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Not playing high level football and if I'm the Jags,
I'm super excited about a fourign two record. I am
not thrilled though, about my number one overall generational draft
pick at fifty five million dollars a year. I just don't.
I don't think that's it. I just don't think he's it.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
No, I don't think he's it, and I don't think
they are doing Travis Hunter and he favors either. I
think it's great for this young man to want to
play at a high level both ways. But what that's
doing is it's not allowing them to maximize him either way.
He becomes an average receiver and a third down dB,

(21:43):
the number three pick in the draft, Like, where what
are we doing? What are we doing? Allow him to exhale?
He shouldn't play eighty plays a game allowing to exhale.
I would let him come out and say this week
he's playing offense. Next week he's going to start on

(22:03):
the defense. That would be better, right. That means he
had a whole practice of playing one side of the
ball and he solely focused there, and the next week
we'll switch him to the other side.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, I like, it's like when somebody who you know
back remember when we used to be single years ago,
and someone will be like, I'm I'm I'm dating multiple people.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, Like, how does that work? It doesn't like I
know who. We can get the answer from someone who
was pretty wild on the back of the scene. I
mean you want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean to fend him off.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Wide open, and that's our guy. Uh, Steve Pimplicious, Yes,
it's fine.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
You're right the first time it doesn't work. Some of
us never attempted such time foolery.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
You.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
There is so much going on, including the Detroit at
Kansas City game underway. We already had another Baltimore loss today.
The Bengals have lost by the way Pro Football Talk
points out. With the Steelers winning today. Last three weeks,
the Steelers are two and oh. The rest of their
division is zero to nine. We've got the NASCAR race
just winding down. Denny Hamlin has just taken the race

(23:22):
at Las Vegas. We've got on Fox TV game one
of the Alcs has just started. Leadoff Homer puts the
Blue Jays in the lead over the Mariners. And we
have three coach firings in college football. Let's start with
the NFL, as Jared Goff and the Detroit offense on
the field first for tonight's game at Kansas City the
Chiefs with a record of two and three. Detroit has

(23:44):
won four in a row, four and one mark second
and goal coming up for Detroit. This first drive has
taken up half the first quarter. Mahomes and company have
yet to get on the field. Tampa Bay now five
and one after beating San Francisco thirty to nineteen, but
bucks y receiver of Mecha Buca left with a hamstring injury,
so their top four wide receivers are out. Mac Jones

(24:06):
was starting for San Francisco as the normal starter. Brock
Purty was out again with his toe injury. Jones three
hundred and forty seven yards passing two interceptions, and the
big injury star linebacker Fred Warner out for the year
dislocated and broken ankle. As soon as he went out.
The next three drives, Bucks go up and down the field.
Green Bays three one and one after beating Cincinnati twenty

(24:28):
seven to eighteen. Josh Jacob's two touchdown runs on eighteen carries.
He had ninety three yards rushing plus five catches for
fifty seven yards. Cincinnati allows about thirty points a game
gave up twenty seven today and Las Vegas ends a
four game losing streak with a home win against Tennessee
twenty to ten the final. This is kind of the

(24:48):
early season matchup that's a who's actually worst ball Tennessee's worst.
That's been decided Titans with three turnovers, Ashton gent seventy
five yards rushing and a TV the Art. Two Monday
Night games coming up.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Two.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
New England is four and two after winning at New
Orleans today twenty five nineteen, so Spencer Rattler of the
Saints as a starting quarterback in the pros is now
one and eleven. The Chargers won at Miami twenty nine
twenty seven on a field goal with five seconds left.
Cameron Dicker went five for five on field goals. Indianapolis
five and one, and they're at the Chargers as I recall.

(25:22):
Next Sunday, Colds beat Arizona thirty one twenty seven on
a touchdown with under five minutes to go. Jonathan Taylor
one hundred and twenty three yards rushing in the game
winning one yard TD. Bad news for the Cards that
wide receiver Marvin Harrison Junior in Indy where his father
used to play left with a concussion. Pittsburgh beat Cleveland
twenty three to nine. Browns Now one and five on

(25:44):
red zone tds. Cleveland was oh for three. Carolina beat
Dallas thirty to twenty seven. Let's compare the running backs
in this one. Shall wait now. Carolina won on a
field goal final play, but on the ground x of Dallas.
Ric o'dowdell carries one hundred eighty three yards. He had
one touchdown reception as well. The Cowboys as a team

(26:07):
nineteen carries thirty one yards rushing. Seattle won at Jacksonville
twenty to twelve. In this game fifteen total punts, seventeen penalties.
Trevor Lawrence two touchdown passes, but was sacked seven times.
The Rams won at Baltimore seventeen to three. Ravens record
now one and five, although Derrick Henry did have one
hundred and twenty two yards rushing. Ravens with three turnovers

(26:30):
seems like next game quarterback Lamar Jackson will be back
from the hamstring injury. Cooper Rush and Tyler Huntley each
played today. Rush with two turnovers. Huntley was sacked four times.
Denver started the day in London with a win over
the Jets thirteen to eleven on a short field goal
with about five minutes left. We only send our best.
The Jets are now oh and six. This was the

(26:51):
worst passing performance in the long history of the New
York Jets, and the offense finished with eighty two yards
net eighty two for an NFL off theoretically an NFL
offense justin fields was sacked nine times. The Jets offense
never got inside Denver's twenty yard was so bad.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
The game is so bad. Shame on us.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh, I'm I can't believe I woke up for that.
I slept.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I could have slept.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
Just shame I did sit through a half. There's no
way I sat through a half at six thirty morning.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Just for the record.

Speaker 8 (27:29):
Next week in London, it's Rams against Jacksonville. News from
the Rams that Pook and the cool only had two
catches at Baltimore today and they're flying overseas from Baltimore.
He left for a bit in this game with an
ankle injury and they don't know yet on his practice
or game availability for this next week. We can update
the whatever's just.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Going on with the fourth and goal at the one
let everybody know what.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
They threw a pass to the left as the quarterback
went in motion. Eric Goff receives the pass from Montgomery,
bobble it but did have a block at all helmet
touchdown nullified by illegal motion on the quarterback. So apparently
they're going to take the six off the board and
make it fourth and goal again from five yards further.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Back kicked the field.

Speaker 8 (28:18):
Maybe we need to practice one a second time or
a third and fourth time before you actually run it
out there. To the College Football News, Penn State did
fire coach James Franklin in his twelfth year there. UAB
fired coach Trent Dill for the former quarterback. Oregon State
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Speaker 3 (29:15):
You, guys, while you're still here, Steve jump in on this.
Can anyone explain to me and from you, you'd be
the most versed at this.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Why was that illegal motion?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Because he was going forward towards the line of the
line of scrimmage. Guess what. Guess what happens when he
was somebody in motion, but he was, he was, It
was it was slight.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
He went sideway, crooked lined.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Man, he veered, you cannot veer towards the line of growth.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
That I know that. That's what I was looking for.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I'm sitting here without the sound on watching this thing,
and I was looking for that because I know that rule.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
That's what it was. By my eyes, he did. He
did not. He was looking back going forward.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
And I see that.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I see why the Lions are kind of flummixed, as
is j go off. You don't want to let the
official walk away. I that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
But do you also know that the best way to
have an illegal motion is to send someone in motion
who's never gone in motion? This is fair? How about
that fair? Someone who's never in his entire life practice
going in motion.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
But the Lions are gonna lie in here.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
They just got to delay a game, so I know, But.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Who cares at this point?

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Now they got to keep a field going.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
He'll still keep the short field goal. But it is
an odd couple of plays in a row. Where we
thought it was seven nothing Detroit, it's going to be
three nothing at Kansas City. Still, guys, this is a
near ten minute drive to open the.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Game, which is which is great for the Lions.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Great, absolutely wonderful way to start the game, except for
all the confusion here. But you know the Lions are
gonna lie and I know it's it's not your thing.
Dan Campbell is not your thing, and I get.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
That, don't. He is my thing until he's not right.
I love what Dan Campbell has done to the organization.
I'm played in this organization. Before Dan Campbell. They needed
someone like Dan camp no doubt, no doubt. My hat's
off there now. Dan Campbell can lose games because of
his ego. Yeah, that's the part, that's the dan I

(31:16):
don't like.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
I know that you when it when it's fourth down
and the Lions are on the field, the circus music
starts in the playoffs exactly the Actually, I would just
lean into this in Ford field as soon as it's
fourth down, because that's what's You're either going to go

(31:37):
for it and then people are gonna be upside down
and people will start doing flips control.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I mean completely.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
Our local affiliate should be passing out sayings that just
say go for it, go for it.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Should just be go for it.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
But Waite, coach, it's fourth and eighteen.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Go for it. I mean, we got perfect play.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
Oh god, they use the regular running back on this,
ending to the drive of Jamior Gibbs. Once they had
the first and goal, four yard game, two yard game,
one yard game, went forward fourth and goal on the
one and okay, did we even practice this play people?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, if you notice by the way, a timeout was
called because there was some confusion motion first fourth and one,
and the play that they ended up running was not
the play they were going to run. They did a
little bit of a naked rollout from from Jared goff
and but then you know, so we kind of saw
what the play was going to.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Be, and and and then but a.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Timeout was called, so then they redid it and came
up with this David Montgomery throw thing.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I mean, look, if you take your emotions out of it,
it's pretty freaking entertaining.

Speaker 8 (32:50):
Sure, that's pretty entertaining. Detroit is has been for three
years there.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Until we don't, until we don't, but.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
Will say to start with a fifteen drive, it reminded
me of when Joe Flacco's offense had done nothing for
Cincinnati and then out of the blue they have the
seventeen play drive, Yeah, to open the second half.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
That was a weird second half in green Bay today,
and for the eighty percent of America who had the
Packers in their survivor pool, it was a little unsettling,
like what do you all do?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Right?

Speaker 8 (33:22):
Because there was a chase, that incredible catch at the
goal line for Jamaar Chase blanketed by a defender nineteen
yard TD from Flacco to get close with four minutes left,
and they went for two and got it. So the
green Bay lead late was only twenty four eighteen.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, Jordan Love went on multiple scoring drives. They're late
to just kind of like settle the waters. But yeah,
I wanted it to be a little more comfortable than
it was.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
But anyway, it was only three nothing with five minutes
left till halftime. It should have been more at that point.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah, but boy, do we need any more reminders
that it is a week to week league.

Speaker 8 (33:59):
Well, too bad for Flaco, I mean to be put
in against Green Bay's defense. And also the offense already
hasn't been good for the Bengals. It was already the
worst offense in the league at two hundred and twenty
nine yards a game. The fact that they actually topped
by a little two twenty nine, congratulations, Joe Fleck.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
No, seriously, I'm shocked that you can quarterback a football
team when you just arrived three days ago.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
They had one yard of offense in the first quarter today, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Which is one more yard than probably should have gotten
considering that fact. But anyway, all right, great stuff, Steve. Well,
we'll talk to you again soon. The Chiefs are about
to get the ball thanks to Yeah, and I want
to talk about Thursday too, and what happened in you know,
speaking of week to week Holy smokes. So we'll do
that coming up in a little bit. We're in the
Fox Sports Radio studios. It's week six.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
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Speaker 3 (35:03):
Live Fox Sports Radio Studios. Mark with it, E from
salam Boy. I got to imagine this first quarter that
we've watched so far is literally the anti Ephraim. That's
what it feels like to me. So the Lions go
all the way down the field and then on fourth

(35:23):
and goal, they don't take points. Instead, they pull out
the circus music and have a running back throw the
ball to the quarterback. That doesn't work out. Then there's
multiple penalties and it turns into a field goal.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Then the other team gets the ball, heads all the
way down the field, hot knife through butter. But then
it's fourth and three. Instead of tying the football game, they.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Go for it.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
They do get it touchdown Chiefs, and then the kicker
misses the extra point, so we've got multiple go forward
on fourth down in scoring situations follow hellowed by a
kicker missing an extra point?

Speaker 4 (36:02):
How you doing tonight? Goo ahead? Man, it's just bizarro world, man.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Anyway, six to three Chiefs late first quarter, Xavier Worthy
with the score.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
And he was questionable all week.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
So good for the fantasy world that he's out there
and putting up points. Yeah, we go from fantasy to
a nightmare, though, talk to me about I guess the
way I want to ask this is how should could

(36:43):
would a forty nine er fan feel about what has
taken place?

Speaker 4 (36:50):
I think this year more so than ever before.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
But basically, there's some sort of stat where over the
last six years, four of them, the forty nine ers
are the top three most injured teams in the NFL.
Is there anything to that, followed by the two years
that they're not they've gone to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah, I don't Yeah, go ahead. I don't know. And
we talked about this before. I don't know if there's
a way to point to the forty nine ers as
their training wrong or something. It just, you know, for
whatever reason, man, it's it's crazy how injury ridden riddled
they are almost every year, and like today, right that

(37:37):
Fred Warner. That was a freak thing.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Sure they got rolled up on.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
That has nothing to do with how they trained or
in the offseason. He should have no, he it was crazy.
You pull a hamstring, you get a lot of hamstring
injuries early in the season because you haven't been going
full speed are one hundred percent for four months. And

(38:02):
so you know, you get the Mike Evans and and
then now you get uh Amika Obuku.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
That's fine, everybody's we're getting there.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
I'm not going to get there.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, I think it's in Mecca Ibuka.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, but it happens. You know, it happens. And so
they've been able to weather that last year. They couldn't
this year. They're you know, they lost a tough one today.
But they ran into a Hollinser like they ran it,
ran into a rocket. And in Baker Mayfield, he's a

(38:45):
storm right now, He's a hurricane, and he's he's running
through uh these teams because he's you know, he's on
another level man mentally, he's on another level. Yes, he is.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Not said, I mean, there there is an absolute grab
a pen and draw a line. And Steve even made
reference of it in his most recent time with us
that as soon as Fred Warner went out, that's when
the buccaneer. I mean, it was just wide open, wide
open receivers everywhere. And they've already not been able to

(39:21):
rush the passer with with Nick Bosa not there, and
uh and now the person who not only is the
best linebacker in the game, but let's be real, he's
the person who tells everywhere, everybody where to go on
the Niner defense. And that's especially important this year because
they've got just a tremendous amount of rookies and new
starters on that defense. And it was just you don't

(39:44):
often see that in the in the NFL, where one
person leaves the field sometimes when it's the quarterback, but
where one person leaves the field and you're like, oh wow,
I really.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
See the difference. Yeah, they're set up for their their
captain to run the show yep, and it's glaring. When
he's not there, it's glaring. And so they got it.

(40:14):
They have two all Pro guys off that defense. I mean,
that is hard. It's gonna be hard. That is hard to.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Make up for sitting there at four and two and
in first place with Sunday Night Football on the way.
We'll watch them next week against the Atlanta Falcons. So
I got one important Niner question for you, one important
Eagles question for you.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
We'll do that coming up next.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Up and down the field go the Lions and Chiefs,
and back and forth go eight from an eye as
we talk out week six National Football League right here
Fox Sports Radio Studios. A lot going on and a
lot still coming as we've got two high level brands
going back and forth. Got another double dip on Monday

(41:08):
night tomorrow night to discuss. And we haven't even gotten
already to what happened in the earlier primetime game this
week with the Philadelphia Eagles losing by double digits to
the New York Football Giants. Oh those wide receivers. So
we'll get to that in just a second. But marketing
from with you, glad you are with us tonight as

(41:29):
we talk all of this out, and we'll get to
three things I forgot to mention that we'll get to.
We'll do it at the right time tonight. We'll get
to three things here in just a second and unveil
our top observations from the week. But I got a
question for you first, and it is just to put
a bow on that forty nine er conversation, and it's this.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
You're four and two, you're in first place.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
The whole thought for a week has been, boy, they're
gonna have to replace Nick Bosa. They're gonna have to
try to get aggressive on the trade market and get
a pass rusher in there. Now Fred Wanner's out for
the year, would you still, yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
I think you have to? Would you yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I think you have I'm giving up draft capital to
bolster what let's be real about the Niners actual chances
see to do something this year.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
What you gotta realize is number one, you're gonna get
parasol back, You're gonna get kidled back, and you're gonna
get brock party back. Okay, that's gonna happen. Yes, well, yes, no,
it's coming. It's gonna happend But anyway, go ahead. But
what I'm telling you is you gotta you gotta be
able to put pressure on an an opposing passer. So

(42:45):
you're gonna have to do something to fill in for
two players who are you know, you're just not gonna
find that anywhere. But you need to go get Trey Hendrickson.
You have to Cincinnati is a dumpster fire. Yep, they're done.

(43:05):
You gotta go get a defensive place. He was a
runner up for Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah, you
need that, You need a splash like that. I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I've been saying it all along. But how again, how much.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Draft you got? You got? Look, because your scheduled this
year is the way it is. Yeah, and you're sitting
at fourign two in first place. Yes, yes, absolutely, I think.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Three more games at least until the trade deadline. Do
they need to at least have some success in those
games in order to do that. What if you're sitting at.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Four and five, that's a different story, Okay, But what
you need to be they need to be working right now.
John needs to be on the phone trying to figure
this thing out now. Trey, to me from Cincinnati is
the best fit. Put him in a Robert solid defense. Yeah,

(44:11):
I think he'd love to come.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I'm with you in theory.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
I've heard a lot of people who do this for
a living say that the Bengals are super weird.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Trade without, you know, without me having any affiliation to
the Bengals, I could, Yeah, they are super weird.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
It's very weird about trades. They don't want to help
other teams. They also in the midst of being a
dumpster fire. They just made an acquisition that seemingly was
about helping right now, helping them play better.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
That possibly couldn't be helping them play better.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Well, I mean, why would you do it?

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Why? I don't know why they did it, But if
you were going to try to help someone play better,
I would have once and got Kirk Cousins or somebody
like that. Somebody give you a real chance. Jill Flacco
was leading the league in interceptions. What are we doing?
I mean, a veteran presence. I don't know. Yeah, I
get it, but I don't know. That's not helping. That

(45:07):
looks it gives the illusion of making moves to help,
the illusion of that that doesn't necessarily mean they were helping.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Speaking of making maneuvers to help, That's where I'd like
to start our three things.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
So let's go ahead and do it.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Our top three observations after yet another day of watching football.
And I always love to go first because that allows
you Ephraim to go last with the with the big finish.
So let me do this one first and talk about
a coach who did not make moves to help his
team today, and it's a head scratcher because his name

(45:49):
is John Harbaugh. The Ravens play calling was some of
the most mysterious stuff I have ever seen in my life,
considering the situation, knowing that there's no Lamar Jackson and
others for that football team.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Early in a game.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Down three to nothing, well into field goal range, they
go for it on fourth and three.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
And then it wasn't just the idea of going for it.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Then it was just a straight drop back and a
throwaway from Cooper rush down the field. That was head
scratcher number one. Okay, coach, I'll give you one. Then
later in the next quarter, the Ravens get down inside
the one yard line and proceed to go try to

(46:40):
get into the end zone four consecutive times. But the
first two times they do it, they do it with
a non quarterback trying to execute quarterback sneaks.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
When Derrick Henry's on the team.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I'm literally not sure what I'm watching. It's a Super
Bowl winning coach who knows what he's doing, and obviously
the Ravens are in a bad way right now, But
I thought missing players they were also missing their coach's
wits today because it was a nonsensical performance and set

(47:15):
of play calls by that proud franchise today.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Yeah, it just it's a head scratcher. I don't know
if they're just holding their breath and waiting for Lamar
to come back so they can rattle off six or seven.
But as of right now, it just things you wouldn't
normally see from harball or hardball coach team. It just
it's it's weird. It's a I guess we're getting close

(47:38):
to halloweens, so it's just a lot of spookiness going on,
right I agree with that. For me, I would be
remiss if I didn't talk about this as my first
three things. And that's shame on us for getting up early,
shame on the league for sending teams to other countries

(48:00):
that don't represent the greatness of NFL football, and shame
on Aaron Glenn and that Jets team. I've never I
couldn't even explain how I was feeling watching that game
because it didn't seem real, like it felt like me

(48:23):
watching like the MAC Conference or something like that on
an early Saturday or late late late Saturday night. The
level of execution and play calling was atrocious. Like I
sent you a message and said, you know, I know

(48:44):
it's early, but the things that are happening with the Jets,
it reminds me Aaron glenn Is reminding me of Brandon
Staley and a defensive minded coach who has no concept
up of how to construct or put a tangible offense

(49:08):
on the field. The fact that Justin feels forty five
yards passing forty five in an NFL game, forty five
yards passing.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I think the net passing stat with all the sacks
he were actually in the negative.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
He was sacked fifty five times.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
It felt like that, didn't it.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
So he was nine for seventeen for negative ten yards
passing yep, yep in a one score game.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
The actual number was nine, which is also the number
of completions he had. There was as many sacks as completions.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
This can't be it. Justin feels shame on you for
Do you have to throw the ball away? Oh? His
internal clock was absurd. You have to throw the bull.
There were received wide open and he just would not
throw the ball. He's gonna get you fired. Now, maybe

(50:09):
they're vying for the number one pick in the draft,
which they'll get. But we've seen this play out before,
so that's I can't believe in the Bronco Shame on
you for even making it a game. Good lord, no joke.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I'm sitting here watching this and go this is one
of the worst performances I've ever seen there by.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
The way, and they're leading in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I'm like, I don't know how this is even possible,
So thank you for bringing the Broncos into it. They
made tons of mistakes. Sean Payton made some weird calls
as well. People are running the ball on third and long,
and I'm just I'm not sure exactly what's going on there,
but I will say this, your point kind of keeps
us moving here on three things, because one of my

(50:54):
three things is one of your three things. I also
wrote down Aaron glenn Is in over his head. I
was going to be the next thing that I brought up.
And just a shout out to everybody listening. If you
have away YouTube whatever to get access to certain portions
of the game, you want to go into the NFL
app and check this out. Go watch the last two

(51:15):
minutes of the first half of this football game. And
if you can explain to either of us what in
God's name the Jets were doing with their lives, I'll.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Bake your cookies tonight after the show.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
I have never seen a two minute drill oh.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Executed in such a way.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
They faked a punt basically so that they could then
run the clock out, and the fake punt was advertised.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
In a way I had never seen before.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
The Denver special teams coordinator is running up and down
the field going it's a fake, it's a fake.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Breeze Hall is on the field as the up back.
The whole world knew.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
That it was a fake, and then it was a fake,
and then they got it so that they can stare
at each other and watch the clock run out. It
was the weirdest sequence of football I've seen in NFL history.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I've played a lot of football at the highest level.
I've never ever ever seen anything like that. Ever, I've
never watched a team not want to try and score,
even after a fake punch to try and get points.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
They were looking at each other like, do you know
what we're supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (52:42):
And people I know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I thought you knew what we were supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
So then they just sat there.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
They just sat there and watched the clock run out.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Wild. Wild.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
We interrupt these three things to let everybody know that
the Kansas City Chiefs have done any from special and
they've gone forward on fourth down in field goal range
of a close game early and they did not get it.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
So Lion's ball anyway, as you were the Cowboys. The
Cowboys lost today to the Carolina Panthers, who we thought
for sure were tanking two weeks ago. Like it, it

(53:28):
just didn't look like real football being played by the
Carolina Panthers. And now they have a better record than
the Cowboys at three and three, and the Cowboys are
two three and one. I don't know what's going on.
I don't know. We want to talk about Bizarro season.

(53:50):
No one is who they say they are outside of
and even the teams that are, they're not so supposed
to be like the Colts, right, like they're not supposed
to be who they are, but they are they are
right like this, this can't be real. And so I'm

(54:17):
watching that game and I just can't even believe that
this is where the Cowboys are. Yeah, they had nineteen
carries for thirty one yards running the ball. That's one
point six yards of carry. You that doesn't even make sense. Well,

(54:41):
it's even worse than that.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
He from the guy who could not run the ball
for them in their uniform, was on his other Troy
and truck him the recodouto unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Had thirty for one, eight three for six point one
yards a carry.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
He called a shot too.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Like I said, this is bizarro world when you you're
were literally watching a guy that you said was not
good enough destroy you by himself, by himself. That I
can't good luck cowboy fans.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
All right, here's my last one and you'll love it.
My last observation is freaking wide receivers, even the ones
who I thought had the head all screwed on straight.
I'll get to Thursday Night in a minute. But I
don't know if you know that Juwan Jennings had two

(55:44):
sidelines shouting matches essentially with Kyle Shanahan today to the
point where Shanahan had to get his own security involved
to go calm Juwan down. And if you try to
tell me that that's not spillover from his contract hold
out in the off seat and I'll never believe you.
I won't believe you once he's not getting targets, which

(56:04):
is largely because A he's hurt. B he's had no
time with the backup quarterback that is in there who
keeps throwing to Kendrick Bourne because they used to play
together in New England. So now we've got the one
guy who I thought was a really good team player,
good downfield blocker, a guy who's always said the right thing.
Now he is screaming about targets as well on a

(56:28):
team that is overwhelmed by injuries. Right now, if you're frustrated,
I get it, but you got to show better awareness
than that. Meantime, we go back to Thursday night. I
think the Eagles might need to trade aj Brown. The
bottom line is they were four and zero and now

(56:50):
they're four and two, And in those two games, the
team that is the best team in the NFL at
running the ball handed the ball to Sakwan Barkley a
total a total of nineteen times in two football games.
And one of them you had a double digit lead
in the fourth quarter. The other one you were leading

(57:12):
in the second quarter and found a way to lose
by three scorers. If you're gonna tell me that that's
just happenstance, I'm sorry. It feels to me like Nick
Sirianni is trying to play kate his whining receivers and
an unbelievable epic winning streak is over because of it.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Correct, I wouldn't throw them another pass the whole year.
Dallas Goddard is getting it. I mean, he's their best
receiving weapon, and Sae Kwon Barkley is their best overall weapon.
Stop trying to be something you're not. Jalen Hurts wasn't
a passer in college. That's why Tour replaced him in

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the National champion game.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
My son came up with a stat today that I
had not heard. Jalen Hurts this year has more toush
pushes than he does completions over five yards.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Just be who you are. You've gone to three Super
Bowl two Super Bowls in three years, yep. Just don't
worry about the receivers. If they don't like it, they
want to be disruptive, find them and move on. Sakwon
Barkley deserves to carry the ball twenty five times a game,

(58:36):
twenty two times a game. You as a running team
deserve to run the ball thirty five times a game
and then pass off play action, namely to your tight
end who no one can guard. I don't care about
the AJ Browns. Maybe I'll throw one or two fifty
to fifty balls to them. Okay, cool, But other than that,

(58:58):
miss me with all of you can go all the
books you want on the sideline. You can bring a
whole library and give her a sideline pass and she
can hand you books off the cart. I don't want
to hear it. Write it down in your journal instead
of reading. He should be journaling on the sideline. That's
how I feel about it. They have now played themselves

(59:20):
out of being a dominant NFC team. Now, Like I said,
what did I tell you last week? Teams now understand
how to beat them. Make them pass the ball. Period.
I'm stacking the box. You're gonna have to pass us
to beat us because you can't do it. Unbelievable. My
third thing is shout out to the Los Angeles Dodgers.

(59:42):
Shout out to the Los Angeles Dodgers again NLCS tomorrow
against the Milwaukee Brewers. Love just tough game to walk off,
walk off hit, hit it right to the picture he

(01:00:02):
froze from. He didn't know what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
It was a walk off off thing, yes, walk off,
walk off, walk walk yourself off the mountain.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Oh my god. It was an unbelievable game. Extra innings.
He froze. The catcher was trying to tell him to
throw it to first. You got plenty of time. Ah,
and he froze yep, and shout out to them and
show hey needs to get he needs to get it
together because being one for eighteen against uh, against the Phillies. No, no, no,

(01:00:40):
that's not gonna work, buddy, That's not gonna work. Thursday
was a bad day for Philadelphia. Oh my tough days. Yeah,
tough tay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I think I heard Sports radio put up a good rating.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
One. I'm sure they did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Yeah, all right, we interrupt these three things to let
you know that people are going forward and not executing
on down yet again, fourth and two for the Lions,
I'm raw drops the ball, Chiefs football just short of midfield.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yep. All right, great stuff, my man, I love it.
I love it.

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got a little chatty there earlier, so Steve's going to
be along here in just a second. I really do
want to ask you, though, like or are we just

(01:02:23):
is this a big blustery statement or do you actually
mean it? With regard to the Eagles, should trade Aj Brown?

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
I think they should. I mean that's a big move.
That's a big move for a first place club.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Ye, but what did the problem is He's not going
to allow you to be who you were. He's not
gonna continue to just be a second or third option
on a team that can win it all again, because

(01:03:00):
that's not in him. It's not the cryptic tweets and
all of that, Like all of that stuff, I know,
do you need that when things get tough? Do you
need that this was happening when things were great, when
you were winning. Imagine you lose another game, imagine, So, right,

(01:03:28):
can you get maximum value for him?

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
I mean, I would think I would think you can,
you know, kind of like we do when Steve comes on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Right, maximum value.

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
Perfect, Good evening once again, gentlemen, And we have an
explanation on that first drive TD of the Lions that
was nullified for illegal motion. NBC has the rules analyst,
former referee Terry mccollin, and he points out something that
I didn't even think of, the fact that Jared Goff,

(01:04:03):
who was called for illegal motion for Detroit, was under
center to start the play, Druff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
A position behind the center.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
He's got to step back and pause for a second
and establish as a back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Before he goes in motion. He did. He stayed in motion.
This is illegal. This is an illegal formation.

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
So on fourth and goal from the one, Detroit goes
for it seemingly got the touchdown pass to the quarterback,
it was called back. They settled for a short field
goal on an opening drive that lasted nine minutes and
thirty nine seconds, a fifteen play drive to start the game,
and it was only a three to nothing lead. Now
it is Detroit ten to six at Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
The Chiefs on their first drive scored late first quarter
a fourth down pass from Patrick Mahomes to Xavier Worthy
six yards, but the extra point kick missed wide left,
so it was six to three over Detroit at the
end of one. Looks like Patrick Mahomes has just scored
on a one yard touchdown run. Defensive penalty declined for
the moment twelve ten Kansas City in the lead over Detroit.

(01:05:08):
In the final minute before halftime, Mahomes has one hundred
and thirty two yards passing, one touchdown through the air,
one on the ground. Jared Goff does have a touchdown
pass of twenty two yards to Jamison Williams. Jamiir Gibbs
of Detroit thirteen carries fifty nine yards rushing. Kansas City
is kicking the extra point, so the lead is thirteen
to ten over Detroit. Late first half, Green Bay beat

(01:05:31):
Cincinnati twenty seven to eighteen. Josh Jacobs two touchdown runs.
He had eighteen carries ninety three yards rushing plus five
catches for fifty seven yards. As for the forty nine Ers,
they were beaten at Tampa Bay in a battle of
four and one teams, thirty to nineteen for the Bucks.
What about the Niners so far this year on the
ground and through the air, Well, it turns out this

(01:05:53):
is now a franchise record nine straight games for San
Francisco throwing at least thirty five passes. Mac Jones twenty
seven of thirty nine through the air in this one
three hundred and forty seven yards, but two interceptions as well.
On the ground, well, it's a forty nine Ers franchise
record first time to go five straight games with under

(01:06:13):
eighty five yards rushing as a team. Each time it
was McCaffrey getting the only carries, plus the quarterback five carries,
so added up twenty two carries sixty seven yards rushing
for San Francisco. McCaffrey did have seven catches The Niners
got within twenty to nineteen with about seven and a
half minutes to go. Didn't score again thirty to nineteen.

(01:06:36):
Bucks the final two big injuries. San Francisco linebacker Fred
Warner out for the year dislocated and broken ankle. Bucks
wide receiver a Mecca Abuca left with a hamstring problem.
So now Baker Mayfield without his top four wide receivers.
Las Vegas has lost or had lost four to row.
Got a home win against Tennessee twenty to ten. Titans

(01:06:57):
are one and five. Titans the worst passing team in
the league. They were under one hundred and fifty yards
passing per game and got one hundred and sixty today,
so congratulations. Indianapolis a home win against Arizona thirty one
to twenty seven. Quarterback Daniel Jones three total touchdowns. The
Colts on red zone tds went four for four. Chargers
won at Miami on a field goal with five seconds

(01:07:19):
left twenty nine twenty seven. Cameron Dicker five for five
on field goals. The Chargers were without injured running backs
Omari and Hampton, their first rounder and Najie Harris, missing
three injured offensive lineman, the full back, tight end and
a return man, and were trailing in the final minute
and still pull out a victory. Pittsburgh beat Cleveland twenty

(01:07:39):
three to nine. New England a winner at New Orleans
twenty five nineteen Drake May three touchdown passes. Carolina beat
Dallas thirty to twenty seven on a field goal on
the final play. That last drive for the Panthers fifteen
plays seventy one yards. It took up about the last
six minutes of the game. Seattle won at Jacksonville twenty

(01:07:59):
to twelve. Jackson Smith and Jigba eight catches one hundred
and sixty two yards in a score. Rams sent Baltimore
to another loss, seventeen to three. Ravens are one in five,
had three turnovers in this one. Puka Nakoupa the Rams
only two catches. He left for a bit with an
ankle injury and the day started in London. Hope you
got up early for this one. Denver beat the Jets

(01:08:20):
thirteen to eleven on a short field goal with about
five minutes left. The Jets had taken the lead on
a safety late third quarter, but the Jets are now
oh and six. Jets for the season had no takeaways
and eight turnovers. Did at least get a takeaway today,
but another l I've said it before. The Broncos defense
continues to impress. They were only allowing seventeen points a

(01:08:43):
game coming into today, second best in the league. They're
always the best in sacks. I know the Jets with
the opponent, Denver has a great defense. I feel like
saying they're going to contend with that defense alone. Very impressive.
Now tonight we've got a game, obviously, with Detroit down
three about thirty seconds to go in the first half
at Kansas City. We have two games on Monday, Buffalo

(01:09:06):
Atlanta Atlanta surprisingly with the number one ranked defense so far,
and Chicago at Washington the Commander surprisingly rotating running backs
and they are the number one rushing team in the
league so far. Over one hundred and fifty five yards
on the ground per game is the average on Fox TV.
Right now, it's game one of the Alcs in Toronto.

(01:09:26):
The top seeded Blue Jays are now tied one to
one with the Mariners. Blue Jays hit their first pitch
they saw of the night for a home run leadoff
man George Springer. Guess who's just answered for Seattle Cal Rowley,
who hit sixty home runs regular season. He has hit
one out off. Blue Jay starter Kevin Gosman won one
and the games in the sixth inning by the way.

(01:09:47):
Game two Monday in Toronto. The NLCS begins Monday Night,
Dodgers at Brewers, nascarwen in Vegas for Denny Hamlin.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Back to you, Okay, good stuff, Steve, and I would
just say to Major League Baseball, if you really, really,
really don't want people to watch, then just keep doing
what you're doing. Go ahead and start your American League
Championship Series right in the middle of Sunday night football.

Speaker 8 (01:10:12):
Yeah, you can't start at four thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Good for ten, Yeah, that's a specific thirty smarty pants boy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
What there?

Speaker 8 (01:10:20):
I mean, they are doing a good job of trying
to avoid the ten pm Eastern starts in the earlier rounds. Yes,
the bad news is there was a three pm game
for the Dodgers this past week that clincher. So tickets
on the secondary market we were cheap. I mean, they
still had over fifty thousand fans there, although my goodness, yeah,
price is drupped there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
There were plenty of people that pointed out that there
were a couple shots of the upper deck in the corners. Yeah, yeah,
that were unsettling. I was like, wait a minute.

Speaker 8 (01:10:48):
For a clincher, I will say context, the Dodgers stadium layout.
Nobody in baseball has that many seats for starters, so
the correct capacity is fifty three thousand, and they were
getting fit fifty thousand. There is due to be another
three pm Dodger Stadium game on Thursday, because they're putting
it as the first of two. Both the Mariners and

(01:11:09):
the Dodgers on the West Coast are going to be
home on Thursday, so they gave the FS one game
the late game for Seattle Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
No, I look, I get that they're in a spot
where there isn't a great answer, you know, the ame.

Speaker 8 (01:11:26):
Why are they're not at the same time the games?

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Yeah, no, there's that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
I just mean when you're going up against Monday night
football and Sunday night football and Thursday night football. Like
I mean, the answer that some people want is, you know,
like play fewer games, start earlier and be done.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
All sports were through the looking glass on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:11:47):
The example of that is the WNBA being so excited
to expand their season and they started their WNBA finals
opposite the first week in a baseball playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
No doubt, no one, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (01:12:02):
I mean, compared to other WNBA finals, the ratings were fine, congratulations,
But was there any talk about the actual games? No, no,
of course no.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
No, no one even knows. The season is over and
the A's is one.

Speaker 8 (01:12:14):
There you go, three out of FOURNBA.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
They swept Phoenix.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
That was the other thing. It wasn't a good series.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
So I mean, like nobody was compelled to watch when
those games are going up against primetime nflers and they're
going up against Major League Baseball. Yeah, that was that
was tough. That was tough. But no, there's also there's
also no great answer. There's no great answer to going
up against these games. All right, Steve, great stuff. We'll
talk to you a little lesson.

Speaker 8 (01:12:42):
Just by comparison, WNBA finals was getting about a million
and a half viewers that first round. Yankees Red Sox
was more like six and a half million viewers.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
And then this is Sunday night football, which is a
billion people are yet you.

Speaker 8 (01:12:55):
Can get on a day game on Sunday, and they
just have in recent weeks twenty million viewers.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
There you go, There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
They've reached halftime in this Sunday night football and the
Chiefs are in front of the Lions. Thirteen to ten
threatens to be a good one. Everyone's going forward on
fourth down. Ephrom loves that, So we'll continue with that.
The Eagles situation at the trade deadline, for sure, I'd
love to get into a little Belichick with you and

(01:13:23):
Tuatungo by Lois said something after the Dolphins loss that
has people chatting and maybe scratching their head also at
the same time. So all of that is still ahead
here in these Fox Sports Radio studios with me from
Salama Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're
sitting in the Fox Sports.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
A from when we mess up, we need to say it, yes,
but in this particular case, as possible, you and I
messed up sitting on the by not believing in our
own take.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
The mistake was not what we said first, but the
mistake was leaving the spot.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
I mean, none of them hot New England's going to
go to the playoffs, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Or they're going to have a really good shot to
do so. And we said that before the year started,
and then they started one and two and they lost
at home to the Raiders, and we were like, oh,
this is disappointing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
And they're three and oh since.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Then, and I they look really good and you can't say, oh, well,
they played it easy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
They played the Saints, they beat the Bills last week
on Sunday Night. Drake May.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
I think if I just saw the stat that's on
the Sunday Night Football broadcast correctly, fourth player in history
to at at at his age, to have five straight
games with over two hundred yards passing and over one

(01:15:15):
hundred quarterback rating.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Drake May is a hit. Drake May is a big
time Draft.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Day hit for the New England Patriots, and I think
that they've got their guy for a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
Yeah, you know, we were bullish on them with the
hiring of Vrabel, what they did in the offseason, what
they did in the draft. So for me, it's just like, oh,
it just took it took a little bit longer, but no,
we were I thought Vybel coming in and adding some

(01:15:54):
stability to Drake May and the Patriots was the key,
and that's exactly what he's done. So I mean it's
not shy. I'm not surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Next week, Titans, the week after that, Browns, the week
after that Falcons. Then they do have to go to Tampa.
Then they're home to the Jets, then they're at the Bengals,
then they're home to the Giants. He Sai's a trend here.
New England has a favorable schedule and we'll see about

(01:16:31):
their health. But they're now off to a four and
two start, and if you sort of swap out the
Raiders loss with the Bills win, I'd argue they're kind
of right where they should be and that's a that's
a pretty good spot to be. And the landscape of
the AFC wild card chase is shaping up to be

(01:16:51):
possibly a little bit easier than people thought because of
the injuries to Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Yeah, and look for Drake may I think this is
the first time Mike Rabel had a quarterback as a
head coach, like a real quarterback, real guy, And so
he was able to be the number one seed without
one in the AFC without a quarterback. So look, he's

(01:17:25):
one of the only disciples to actually beat Belichick when
they went head to head. So I look, I'm a
fan of Rabel I was, you know, a fan of
him as a player playing against him, and I like
what he's done as a head coach in this league.
I thought when he got to New England he could
kind of write that ship. I think he brings a

(01:17:47):
different energy than Mayo did last year in terms of
this It's not the Belichick way. It's his way. And
although he comes from Belli Jeg, he's his own coach
and has his own style and swagger and relates to
his team in a different way. And I think all
of that matters, and so I would not be surprised

(01:18:11):
if they make the playoffs and have a run and
not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
And then there's another player I would like to point
out that we were texting about earlier today who is
sitting under the radar, and we'll see where it goes next.
Wide receivers get punched in the face on this show
quite a bit, because a lot of times I think,
as you and I see it, there is there's just
a little bit too much me behavior. We're just starting

(01:18:42):
to get to know this guy as a star. But
as I watch him play, it feels to me tucked
up there in the Pacific Northwest he might get the
label as the most underrated player in the NFL right now,
and that's Jackson Smith and Jigba and you're seeing, first
of all, the receiving was handed to him this year.
Cooper Cup is added in, but he's now a complimentary piece.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Metcalf has gone, Tyler Lockett has.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Gone, and I do think it's an upgrade to go
from Geno Smith to Sam Darnold. And when you add
all of those aspects into this, he has become, at
least statistically and maybe in terms of x's and o's
as well, this is the most effective wide receiver in the.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Game right now. Oh yeah, he's he's unbelievable route tree
running leadership, but just he's dependable, right, you know, he's
got I li liken him to amaras Saint Brown Amara is.
That's These are the guys you want to you want
on your team, You want them in the receiving corps
because their actions speak louder than words. And you know,

(01:19:49):
like there's no secret. My favorite player of all time
that I've played with UH at the receiver position is
Andre Johnson. And I watched him game at game where
he got three targets or fifteen targets be the same leader,
and that's what you want. He's not going to just
destabilize the locker room or the team. He's not going

(01:20:11):
to read on the sideline, none of that. And that's
what you want in your star. So I harken those
two guys. Those two guys are are unbelievable and they
cut from the same cloth.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
We're six weeks in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
He has forty two catches for six hundred and ninety
six yards this week six.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Let's talk Belichick coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
We started the show by talking about seeing people in
a different light. New time, new information comes to light,
sometimes it changes your perspective. There are a number of
quarterbacks who have done that in recent years, especially this year.
Baker Mayfield is leading that charge as right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
To many, he is leading the MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Now doing it down three four receivers at a thirty
to nineteen win over the forty nine ers today has
the Buccaneers at five and one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
But what about the reverse?

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
What about someone who has been held in the highest
regard and now all of a sudden, everybody's questioning that.
I can't wait to get your perspective on this one,
because this one really does confuse me. Albert Breer, who's
a big time NFL reporter and for years was based
kind of in the Boston area, very tapped in to

(01:21:32):
the Patriots dynasty, tweeted something out this week, and it
is in the wake of everything going on with Bill
Belichick at North Carolina, which is beyond head scratching. But
Breer says, you know, I used to think of Belichick
as the unquestioned greatest of all time. Now I look

(01:21:53):
at what's going on and it makes me take stock
of what his career record of accomplishments is when he
doesn't have Tom Brady, and it's pretty pedestrian. It is
pretty pedestrian. No, I think it's silly to suddenly let

(01:22:13):
this take down Bill Belichick's career. We're not going to
do that. Obviously, he achieved greatness. He had the Patriot way.
It worked over and over and over again. But it
is fair to look at some of the things you
caught my year. Also earlier in the show, when you
were talking about Mac Jones' career and what was handed

(01:22:37):
to him. A first round quarterback, he takes his team
to the playoffs as a rookie, and in the year
two He's handed a defensive coordinator as his offensive coordinator,
and everything goes completely wrong. From that moment, Tom Brady leaves,
Mac Jones comes in, has one solid ish year, and

(01:22:57):
from that moment forward, it's been nothing but weird. Is
Bill Belichick's career? What do you think of all of
this and the idea of any legacy being stripped.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
No, you can't take his legacy away. But the fact
of the matter is there is a time where you
no longer commanded room like you used to. Everybody goes
through it. Bill Belichick was out of touch with grown men,

(01:23:34):
professional players who thought it was a good idea for
him to go to college and coach kids who he
can't relate to. I don't care how young his girlfriend is.
Well that's a big part of this story. But these

(01:23:54):
young people in there talking about you know, sus and
mid and this is this is just where they this
is just how they talk. Like my nephews are twenty
three and twenty seven. Like just listening to them, I'm like, man,

(01:24:16):
I don't get out of here. Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Six? Seven?

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Are these the numbers? Stop? Stop? Is it? So? If
you get a lock of a whole lot, stop full
of guys singing the six seven songs doing all that
you as Bill Belichick, you're walking in there like what
what are we doing? Like you can't. And I'm not
saying he has to like he First of all, Bill

(01:24:41):
Belichick had his own way of doing things that's not
conducive to everywhere. That's why no NFL team wanted him.
That's why they weren't gonna give him complete control because
when he had it without Tom Brady, things went off
the rail. So him going to college, to me, I
thought it was interesting, but it was different than when

(01:25:04):
Dion Sanders went to Colorado. Deon Sanders was in college
with his son at Jackson State, then he went on
to Colorado. Like Deon Sanders had been coaching young man.
He's better there than he would be in the pros
because there is a message there. A college coach isn't

(01:25:24):
just an exis and olds guy. He is a mentor.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
He is he is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
You know, a therapist. He is someone who can relate
to you and what you're going through. Bill Belichick is
none of those things at the college level. And what
we're finding out is it's just not about scheme in
exist and o's you have to be relatable to the

(01:25:56):
people you're trying to relate to. Like I said, it
doesn't matter how young your girlfriend is. They're not taking
orders from her, or are they. I don't know either either.
Even if they are, that's not conducive to having a
successful football team in ncuble.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
A Hey, Mary, why is this conversation so uncomfortable for you?

Speaker 8 (01:26:23):
I am so disappointed?

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Or why no, no, no, what do you mean you're so disappointed?

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
She's feeling mid right now?

Speaker 8 (01:26:30):
It's turned for the worst. Are you talking about had
to live through like three hours of Dan Byers saying
six seven and I just want to let you know
right now, like my mental is.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Okay, all right, Well, we're sorry for picking scabs, but
I also don't want to pay for what is happening
on previous shows. The bottom line is this, This is
like what we're talking about is this is real.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Yeah, he's not relatable.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Nobody nobody's trying to like I get it, Like if
you're a certain age, you don't want I want people
older to understand this. We've all been there. We've been twenty,
I've been eighteen. It was the same way then. So
I'm not coming down on anybody for this, but at
the same time, like everybody needs to understand and I

(01:27:17):
think this is what you're saying from there's an ebb
and flow to this. There is a whole half of
the planet that doesn't understand what the hell everybody's talking
about in college or in high school or whatever, and
that creates this divide, that creates this divide, and it

(01:27:40):
gets even more kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Hmmm, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Want to use the word creepy, but it gets even
more I guess I'll settle for unrelatable. When Bill is
kind of in the midst of not being able to
relate to anyone. You just detailed why he can't relate
to his players. But while I have no ill will

(01:28:07):
nor care about this situation, what has gone on with
his girlfriend also sort of disallows him from relating to
anybody his own age also and potentially disallows him from
relating to anybody in the business, because I've never seen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Anything like this before in my life?

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Have you? Have you ever seen the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Significant other patrolling the sideline and showing up to the interviews?
So who is he relating to? So he can't relate
to his players? I'd like to raise my hand too.
He's also not relating to me like I don't understand
what the hell he's doing. I have no clue I

(01:28:51):
haven't had a clue for six years what Bill Belichick
is doing. We're sticking defensive coordinators on the offensive side.
You're starting to get players who are barking a little
bit because they're like, dude, you realize you drafted us.
You don't own us, right, Like Julian Ellman's on a
podcast talking about how dude, it's awful. It's awful, Like

(01:29:14):
you deal with it because you win, but it's awful.
And then Tom Brady leaves and it's like, well, now
it's just awful because now we're not winning anymore either.
And then this is the next move. The whole thing, man,
the whole thing. You had the COVID draft where he's
by himself and his kitchen with his dog, like things

(01:29:36):
were just kind of quirky for a little while, and
then it arrived at completely unrelatable.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
Completely. You can be a victim of your own success.
The ones who buy into their ego are the ones
who eventually fall right. You could be You can read
your own press clippings Bill Belichick as much as he

(01:30:08):
was audacious with the media and so on and so forth,
he's read his press clippings, He's read how great he is,
how great of a coach he is. And with that said,
now you get this unrelatable monster because he is Oh,

(01:30:35):
it's my way. I know it's gonna work, That's what
it is. And it doesn't work. Like I said, there
comes a time where, yeah, it just doesn't work. This
is one of those times. He's at a situation now
where those old things that people bought into that no

(01:30:58):
one's doing that. Those guys, that's that's school. They didn't
sign up for this. They didn't sign up for this.
You know what everybody needs.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
I've decided that is one of the reasons you and
I get along so well. Boy, everybody everybody needs an
offensive lineman's perspective, like I fod so many of these
issues that we talk about when players or coaches or
teams or whatever sort of hit some sort of a

(01:31:35):
rough patch like it, it stems from the inability for
people to realize that absolutely nothing good in the world
happens by yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
Nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
So when you talk about press clippings, we talk about
AJ Brown or plugging the name of your wide receiver.
You know that, like through the years, all of the
stuff that that that we've that we've talked about. I just, man,
I don't know. To me, it all sort of smacks
as like it's something even deeper than just a simple arrogance.

(01:32:19):
It's just a it's a lack of awareness of how
it's a lack of awareness of how anybody gets anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
And and uh, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Got to imagine that stuff like this in a locker
room really really wears on people. And so I don't
know that just when people get stuck in that kind
of a thought process, press clippings or I you know,
I like these people have wonderful gifts, obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
But it it just it just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Matter if the people around you aren't great too.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
And that that like what Bill Belichack is is learning
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
Nobody can do it by themselves. He should have learned
that in New England, but his ego wouldn't allow him
to make the right decisions. His ego. When you have
an ego like that, it makes you buck and balk
against a system I can make. It's me, I'm the reason,
so I can put anybody at offensive coordinator. You can't

(01:33:28):
tell me who to draft, you can't tell me who
to hire and put in a position. Because this is
what I'm one of the greatest coaches to ever. Whenever
you start having those conversations, whether it be out loud
or with yourself, the fall is coming, is coming, and
that's what we're seeing. Whenever it becomes about you in

(01:33:51):
a team sport, no matter whether you're a player or
a coach. Oh, it's coming, and it may take twenty years.
It got weird, It got really really weird. He's completely
lost touch with I mean, that's obvious.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Yeah, I mean, he still run for president someday if
he wants.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
He hasn't reached that age yet.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
Yeah, yeah, I guess. I mean anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
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handful of minutes here to get you updated on everything
that has taken place today and is continuing to take place.
But we definitely wanted to get to this. This is
to me, this is two stories in one. There's what

(01:35:51):
Tua is saying and there's that to a set it.
I think those are two different stories. So the Dolphins
lose another close one, this one to the LA Chargers
today twenty nine, twenty seven and two out of press
conference after the game, kind of calling out leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
So I want to I want to get into.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Is he trying to get is trying to get a
coach fired? And should he be responsible for the things
that he's saying need to be taken care of?

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
So there's a lot to this. Listen to what Tua
had to say.

Speaker 9 (01:36:28):
I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate
that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out
of the guys, right, we're expecting this, Are we getting that?

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Are we not getting that?

Speaker 9 (01:36:40):
We have guys showing up to only player only meetings late,
guys not showing up to player only meeting Like, there's
a lot that goes into that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not
have to make this mandatory?

Speaker 9 (01:36:51):
So so it's it's a lot of it's a lot
of things of that nature that we got to get
cleaned up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
And it starts with the little like that. I didn't love.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
This e from and I'd love to hear you maybe
kind of talk me down on this, but again, it
feels like two things to me. A feels like you're
taking a shot at your coaches. And if you mean
to do that, then hey, I guess that's your prerogative.
I think it's tough to do in a press conference.
But b if people aren't showing up for players only

(01:37:25):
meetings and you're pointing the leadership and you're the quarterback,
I don't know, dude. It felt to me like he
was pointing the finger at himself. And although I don't
think that's what he meant.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
Well, the fact that they're multiple player only meetings in
this short season so far is a red flag for me.
Are they having weekly players only meetings? That's what it
sounds like. Guys not showing up to players only meetings,
Guys come in late to players only meeting Like, how

(01:38:02):
many of these do you need? Because usually players only
meetings are to cut through all of the red tape
to talk team teammates, to teammate man the man about
what needs to happen. So if you're having multiple player
only meetings, that's the that's a problem. Now. Two, as

(01:38:23):
a quarterback of the team and as a leader of
the team, this fall squarely on his shoulder. But the
blame doesn't. We don't take the blame off the head
coach either, like we don't.

Speaker 8 (01:38:46):
There is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
There is a lack of leader leadership from top to bottom.
There are things that are allowed to happen, and it
started happening in the offseason where Tariq Heel decides he
wants to take his kids to the pool instead of
come to workouts. Things like that. Once you start letting

(01:39:11):
things like that slip through the cracks, then that's what
you get. You you find yourself in a season like
this where guys do whatever they want to do because
there's no accountability, and coach McDaniels is is he's he's
to blame. He's too laxed, he's too cool. Yep, it's

(01:39:36):
not enough fire, not enough urgency.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
I don't know that there's an I you know, I
don't know that there's any save in that situation. I
kind of I think a lot of us felt this
way before the year even started, that that he was
kind of walking the plank. And now when you look
at their record, I mean, I think it that is
what it is. So if that's what Tua is actually

(01:40:00):
worried about, I don't think he needs to worry about it.
The standings are going to take care that they're one
in five, and ownership is going to take care of
that and it seems rather obvious. But the other side
to it is, man, I like, that's the whole thing
to me, to listen to you talk on it is
a little it's a little head scratching. At this level

(01:40:23):
of football that there would be some sort of confusion
with regard to meetings, confusion with regard to timeliness and
accountability issues to the point where people are deciding to
do other things rather than mandatory team led activities. Like

(01:40:47):
I don't know, man, it feels to me like something
whether it's Mike McDaniel's job, to a status, something has gone.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
On way too long without being addressed.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
If these are the things that are happening that like
it's low key, but it sounds like anarchy.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Yeah, it's it's there's no true leadership happening. And if
there's no true leadership, then people feel like they can
get away with anything and everything. And that's what you got.
And it starts with your best player, starts with Terek
Hill is your best player? Yeah, now he's gone, Well

(01:41:32):
he's out. Yeah, But that attitude that like, I don't
to me, no one is looking to tool for leadership.
Is it just me? Like when I think about the
Miami Dolphins. I don't think that he's the leader.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
I hope Tyreek Hill's not.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
I mean really, And that's the point. That's the point.
Who is I don't know? And therein lies the problem.
If you're having players only meetings and there is no
player that's a leader, guys aren't going to show up
because guys aren't opting into whatever you're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Why am I not looking to Tua to be a leader?

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
Why not? Yeah? This is the first time I think
I've ever heard him talk.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Well, maybe it's just the first time he's ever said
anything that's kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
You know what I mean. I know he speaks, but
this is the first time I've heard him actually say something.
The ship has been sinking for a while, for a while. Yeah,
Now you can't get on deck and be like, we've
got to bail this water out that what happened? Where

(01:42:46):
have you been? Where have you been? That's that's my question.
Where's Steve the Sega been? Steve? Where have you been been? Here?

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
The whole time? Joined the hour? We do have a
chief's lead of twenty to seventeen over Detroit. By the way,
details in a moment. I'm glad you brought up this
hour about Bill Belichick, and if the debate about best
NFL coach ever is actually reopened, I would welcome it
because some were saying, oh, it's Belichick best ever, no
debate before he even won his last Super Bowl or two.

(01:43:21):
Has anyone ever heard of the name Vince Lombardi. There's
a trophy named after him, hevid vincelam But these are
the facts. Vince Lombardi was an NFL head coach for
ten years and won the NFL title five times. In
those ten years. Bill Belichick's first twenty seasons as a
head coach, he didn't have five NFL titles. And on

(01:43:41):
top of that, Lombardi went to Washington to coach one
more season before he passed away. A team that had
been awful for years was going nowhere, and he even
got a winning record out of them. They hadn't had
a winning record in almost fifteen seasons. And on top
of that, we haven't even mentioned Don Shula, who coached
longer than Belichick and had a better winning percent. Throw
that into the debate. I'm glad if there's going to

(01:44:03):
be a debate. Too often people say the word ever
about anything in sports, and they don't actually have historical
knowledge to be able to say the word ever. Kansas
City Chiefs are leading twenty to seventeen over Detroit early
in the fourth quarter, casey two and three. At the moment,
the Lions have won four in a row. They're four
and one on the season. Detroit has just scored on

(01:44:25):
a short TD pass Jared Goff to Sam Laporto, who
has four catches forty six yards. Jamison Williams six catches
sixty six yards in a score. All three Chiefs touchdowns
from Patrick Mahomes, two through the air, one on the ground.
Chiefs did miss an extra point kick in the first quarter.
The opening drive of the night for Detroit was sensational,

(01:44:45):
nearly ten minutes worth. They thought they had scored on
a fourth and goal trick play, it was called back
by penalty. They settled for a short field goal and
right now Detroit is trailing by three. Tampa Bay over
San Francisco thirty to nineteen. BA Bayfield two touchdown passes,
the defense had six sacks in Green Bay Josh Jacobs
two touchdown runs twenty seven eighteen Packers over Cincinnati, and

(01:45:09):
we talk about you know who's a good team who's
a bad team In the NFL this year we have
a pretty clear view of the bad teams like Baltimore
lost one in five, lost seventeen to three to the Rams,
Cleveland one and five lost at Pittsburgh twenty three to nine,
Saints one and five lost at home to New England
twenty five nineteen Drake May three touchdown passes, Miami one

(01:45:30):
and five lost at home to the Chargers twenty nine,
twenty seven on a field goal with five seconds left
and Tennessee is one and five. They were at Las Vegas,
a Raiders team that had lost four in a row,
and the Raiders led them seventeen to nothing. Late third quarter,
the Titans had three turnovers, all by the rookie quarterback
cam Ward was sacked six times. Ap points out that

(01:45:51):
so far, this is six games into a season, the
Titans have only scored about eighty points and their averaging
under four yards per play. They're the only NFL team
so far this year averaging under four yards per play.
Some are averaging six yards per play. Just by comparison,
in the last fifteen years of NFL seasons, there have

(01:46:12):
only been two teams that have had a start like
this solo in points, solo in yards per play. One
of those a Jets team, of course, twenty nineteen, and
the other was Josh Allen's rookie year with the Bills
twenty eighteen. Not going well, the Titans have the worst
passing team in the league, the worst scoring team in
the league. They were at fourteen and a half points

(01:46:33):
a game coming in and scored ten and lost to
a Raiders team that was only averaging sixteen and a
half points a game. Two Monday night games coming up.
We had college news today. Penn State fired coach James Franklin,
UAB fired coach Trent Dilfer, former quarterback Oregon State zero
to seven fire coach Trent Bray. One NHL game Washington

(01:46:54):
won nothing winner at the Rangers NASCAR victory in Vegas
for Denny Hamlin. The National League Chamampionship Series begins Monday
night Dodgers at Brewers Pitcher Blake's noow we'll start for
LA Game two. Starter for will be Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Game
two of the ALCS is Monday on Fox from Toronto.
Right now, Fox TV has Game one and even though

(01:47:14):
the Blue Jays hit a home run on their first
pitch they saw tonight. It's now Seattle three to one
at Toronto in the bottom of the eighth. Cal Raley
with the tying home run in the sixth inning, Jorge
Polonco with an RBI single in the sixth, and an
RBI single in the eighth. Seattle on the road, leading
three to one in Game one in the eighth. Just
for the record, the Seattle Mariners and Milwaukee Brewers have

(01:47:38):
never won a World Series title.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Pick to you, good stuff, good stuff, Steve. And oh,
by the way, how wild was it? Did you? Did
you guys all watch the end of the Seattle Detroit series?

Speaker 4 (01:47:51):
Yes? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
How wild was it to see a game go to
fifteen innings? And is it possible that basically people have
kind of forgotten how to go about scoring in a
scenario like that because in the playoffs you don't get
an automatic runner at second base, and.

Speaker 8 (01:48:12):
They kept putting runners on base like batter's getting on
right in regular season, those would have scored some.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Runs when you need to, like, cause the baseball teams
now don't play for one run. They don't play for
one run until you have to and you get a
free runner at second base. When you need to do
that from the beginning, basically, when you need to just
generate three hits in order to get a run.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
The teams don't do that anymore. They don't know how
to do Like it's.

Speaker 8 (01:48:41):
Just sometimes in the regular season, you can hit a
ground out to the right side, move the man to third,
sack fly score without a hit.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
What a thought, just saying anyway, I enjoyed that, though
my wife wanted that game to be shot, like she's
just we're at damn, and she keeps looking over my
shoulders the other way around in normal she's looking over
my shoulder and she's like, I just want you to
know it's still two to two, still to two.

Speaker 8 (01:49:08):
The attention was there, and the chances to score both
sides were there, and it's like the Dodgers clincher you
referenced earlier against the Phillies that was very low scoring
and yet the tension was there. Update Kansas City has
scored again. Mahomes responsible for counts. That's four touchdowns now
extra point will make it twenty seven seventeen over Detroit.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Second Hollywood Brown touchdown of the night in what may
be his final game featured for the Chiefs because Rashie
Rice is coming back next week.

Speaker 8 (01:49:39):
Xavior Worthy had a touchdown tonight. Kelsey's the leading receiver tonight.
It's all looking good for the offense.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Yeah, they look like.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
The Chiefs tonight except for one little thing.

Speaker 8 (01:49:49):
Is until a moment ago, the leading rusher was Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Well, there's a lot of teams that have just given
up on that. Like, there's a lot of teams. I mean,
you were talking about those those forty nine ers stats.
They're nuts. They throw the ball forty times a game.

Speaker 4 (01:50:07):
Now, look at Philly, Cincinnati doesn't look at what Philly
has done. Philly with the best running back on the
planet Earth, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
I mean, how many NFL teams are still truly focused
on running the ball?

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
The Colts them, green Bay, Green Bay.

Speaker 8 (01:50:29):
Washington's been surprisingly good this year, yep, Bills last year.
In this year, not a lot left. I mean, what
of the Steelers had on the ground. And you mentioned
forty nine Ers, I mentioned Titans, Bengals, you talked about
the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
The forty nine Ers got their first rushing touchdown of
the year today.

Speaker 8 (01:50:50):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
Wow, I think with Christian McCaffery.

Speaker 8 (01:50:54):
Mahoks alone has four.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
Touchdowns, first one of the year. They're the last team
to get one. Some of the analytics with the Niners
are fun. Try to figure out how they're foreign too.
Can't run the ball, they can't rush the passer.

Speaker 4 (01:51:09):
They got all backups.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
They've gone twelve games count them without an interception, and
they had no rushing touchdowns this year until today.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
And they're fourn.

Speaker 8 (01:51:24):
Too, top passing team, rotating quarterbacks. Go figure who.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Some weird stuff going on out there.

Speaker 8 (01:51:33):
Meanwhile, in that division, I know they're tied with the
Rams four in two. At this point, we don't know
if Pukinaku is playing in the London game next week
against Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Yeah, now he returned today.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
He did, but.

Speaker 8 (01:51:45):
What's the word is McVeigh even afterwards was not confident
because they're getting in a plane and going over there
and it was like, I can't say right now, We'll see,
But it was an ankle injury and he only had
two catches and Derrick Henry was able to run against them.
The Rams have a great offense so far this year
and they go up against a team with no defense

(01:52:06):
in Baltimore, and they couldn't pile on the points.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a slog. It was
a slog, and London games always look like a slog.
Just yeah right, let me know, Steve, if I'm supposed
to wake up for that one next week.

Speaker 4 (01:52:22):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:52:23):
One of the great inventions of my lifetime is.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
The dber baby.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Yeah, but when am I watching it the second?

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
This is what I'm gonna give you it. I gave
it a cheat, right, but I get up, trust me.

Speaker 8 (01:52:36):
No, okay, this is how we watched Lakers get Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:40):
Also, yep, that's exactly right. Get up at eight thirty.
You just have some breakfast, some coffee, all that. By
the time you sit down and watches by eight forty five,
you can go through the whole game. It'll in right
at ten o'clock, right into regular football.

Speaker 8 (01:52:56):
I didn't go quite that fast. I do it every time,
but you skip all the NFL networks everything and the
penalties everything. No other games are going hunt.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
As soon as they's line up to punt, I'm going
right through. I go to commercial, right to the possession.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
But what if it's a fake?

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
If not a fake? It was, it was, but it
was it's not a fake.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
It was a fake.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
It was I had to rewind. Yeah, I did. I
rewound it and I kept it moving. The worms fake.
I was at my son's au basketball game at eight
am this morning, watching that game on my iPad as
I sat there watching my son play.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Oh, you were one of those dads. Yes, I do
that sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:53:42):
Yeah, I am one of those dads. I don't feel
good about that. First of all, I take my job serious,
So if we're going to talk about the game, I
should at least watch the game, That's right. I normally
don't take him on Sundays. My wife takes him, but
I'm not going to ask her to get up at
seven o'clock. Oh, one of the only nights she can
sleep in, on one of the days she can sleep in.

(01:54:04):
So I got up. I was already up, and you know,
drove them out to Thousand Oaks. Oh god. Yeah, then
watched the game while I was out there.

Speaker 8 (01:54:16):
Okay, not next door by the way, No.

Speaker 4 (01:54:19):
No, for those Yeah, thousand Oaks. Is that's a minute.

Speaker 8 (01:54:22):
Meanwhile, we put the Jets in it. We kind of
referenced this earlier in the show The Jets in an
NFL game. People need to realize how ridiculously expensive those
NFL tickets are for the europe Yes, it's astounding. Really,
it's like a World Cup ticket or something.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
I went over there last year, I know the year
before last, well, Buffalo and Jacksonville were playing. I was like,
say what now?

Speaker 8 (01:54:43):
And so they see this, this is the NFL product
that they're getting. They're not getting seventeen eighteen weeks worth
of games over there in person, and the Jets offense
twelve drives, eight first downs.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
Oh, it was amazing. I felt so bad. I mean like,
we've been doing this long enough, so I sort of
feel like the London fans understand the game now. And
then obviously half the stadium is filled by uber, resource
filled people who have traveled over there to follow their team.
But I just wanted to almost fly over there grab

(01:55:16):
a microphone so I could be like, okay, let me
explain what this game actually is.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
I'm ticked to say.

Speaker 8 (01:55:22):
You know, with your national sport, you've probably see low
scoring games all the time, but really we shouldn't be
giving this to them.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
Yeah, if you're confused by this, you should be. This
is not what they're supposed to be doing. God, that
was a crazy one. All right, Steve, great stuff as always,
appreciate you Tonight, we're live in the Fox Sports Radio
Studios and not quite done yet on Fox Sports Radio.
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Catch us in all of our Fox Sports Radio shows
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(01:56:16):
we're going to scoot out here in a little bit,
make way for planking, Spaniard. Did your Dodgers figure out
the bullpen?

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
Say that again?

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
Did your Dodgers figure out the bullpen? No, You've been
very worried.

Speaker 4 (01:56:35):
I'm still worried.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Okay, Roki Sasaki has changed the dnams he has now?

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
Can he do it every game? I don't know trying to? No,
we don't. He don't ever need to come in. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
I uh, did I see correctly that tan Or Scott
did not make the roster for the for the NLCS.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
So that's makes feel good. Yes, bro, it's the starting
pitching has been amazing, other worldly. Yes, they got a
pitch into the eighth inning.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
This is like yo, which people don't do anymore. No,
especially in the playoffs. The situations are too high leverage.
You need too many pitches, you need too much energy.
You can't ask that of your starters in the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:26):
Playoffs, no, man, And it's just like a slow death.
You saw they almost gave it up against the Rids. Yeah,
but that was last series. Yeah. But what I'm saying
is there's all like three zero four zero going into

(01:57:49):
the eighth and eighth inning. You look up, it's four
to three. It's like, wait, what just happened? And it
gets down to m Freddie Freeman miraculous scoop to get
us out of the series.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
It's you know, it's supposed to be stressful.

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
Nah like that. Not when you guys starting pitching like that.
He speaking of stress. Now you'm a modal struggled in
his start. Okay, well what happens. It happens. But but
I'll put money on him.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
He's good, good pitcher. Yeah, that's good pitch.

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
I'm glad Kershaw's done for the to retire and go
on by his business man, What does that mean he
should be done pitching for the year. It's over?

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
That was that was such a wonderful tribute.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
To sure was he gave up eight runs.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
Just for an incredible hal of tremendous tribute.

Speaker 4 (01:58:48):
You don't want him to pitch, no, rest of the playoffs,
do not want him to pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
But he's been so good in the playoffs in his career.

Speaker 4 (01:58:55):
He let's real, has he? That was dripping with sarcasm.
I know, I know, so older, you just want him gone.
But what I'm saying is we when he was young, okay,
when he has his arm was lively. Yes, he struggled
in the playoffs, he did he did? You know that

(01:59:17):
doesn't get better right with age? I wouldn't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
Yeah, No, sometimes sometimes you get a little craftier.

Speaker 4 (01:59:24):
Seattle. Just Seatur just stole game one. Did they steal it? No?
They didn't, They just want it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
They Yeah, Seattle, that's a pretty feel good group. Sixty
home runs from their catcher, who a lot of people
hadn't heard of.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
Before the year started.

Speaker 3 (01:59:45):
So okay, maybe uh, maybe it'll be a West Coast
World Series.

Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
I'd like that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
I bet I bet you would.

Speaker 4 (01:59:55):
Yeah, we don't want to go to Canada.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Hey, man, I need you to text me something the
Survivor pool. Like we're week seven now and this getting
pretty you know, he's getting kind of serious. Well, look
at next week's schedule and you tell me if you can.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Find someone to pick. All right, I need a recommendation. Okay,
all right, good stuff for he from my Mark.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
Good night,

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