Mark Willard & Kerry Rhodes Talk LeBron Controlling His Destiny, Unpack Last Weeks Super Bowl, React To The NBA All-Star Game, and More!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. When you're feeling down,
you turn to an old friend. And I got up
today ten o'clock rolled around. I'm in the West. I
turned on the TV. I wrubbed my hands together, and
I said, let's go. It's Sunday. It's time to sit
down and watch some foot Oh. Hell, So, I'm gonna

(00:26):
turn to an old friend. His name is Carrie Rhodes.
What the hell do we do now?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Carrie?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
What? What? What the hell do we do now? Mark?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'll tell you what I did. So I had to
do like a little makeup duty thing today.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I went to the movies yesterday, went and saw the
Bob Marley movie. Oh it was a two o'clock showing.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
How was it?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm gonna tell you what. I gotta tell you this story. First, Mark,
So I walk in, I get my popcorn. I actually
just keep my head down while I'm eating. I just
kind of glance up and I see Bob Marley. I'm like, cool,
I'm in the right place. Walk in, walk in, sit
in my seats. I'm like, man, a movie looks like
it's been playing for a while. But then you know,
I'm I'm like maybe it just started little early. I

(01:09):
was like five minutes late, so cool. I get through
the whole movie. It was probably probably like an hour,
and I'm like, okay, I know I definitely miss something,
so I step out. I looked to the right, Bob
Marley two o'clock, so I missed it. So I did
a rain check, went in right before the show. Loved it.
Great music, obviously, and now I'm feeling one love right
now man Wood.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So wait, did you watch the end first, in the beginning?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Second? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I did?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
You did?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, gosh, I have a great start.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Do you remember the old movie it's not that old,
but Usual Suspects. You remember that movie? Okay, Unfortunately that's
a twister. That's one that's got a big like whoa
at the end of it. And I accidentally did that
with that movie. That's not the movie to do that with.
I walked into a group of friends and it was college,

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so who knows. They'd probably been smoking something and I
just walked in and but he said anything. They're all
zoned out on the TV. Come to find out they're
watching the big Twist ending, and so they're just mesmerized
by the TV. And I sat there and watched it
with him, and I had no idea what I was
walking into. And so the whole thing ends and they're

(02:16):
all on the floor. They're like, oh my gosh, and
I'm like what what what? Why are you all what happened?
And they're like, oh, hell, you haven't seen the beginning
of this. So I never got the true experience because
I did the same thing. I went back and watched
the beginning. Second.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's not as fun, Carrie. That is good that way.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
It is not as fun, and I will tell you
that I was. I was flabbergasted because I knew once
I sat down that it was it was probably the
middle or something. But I'm just like a no fuss guy,
so I just went through and finished it and a man,
it's not the same, but you know the music. The
music's awesome, so I was fine.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah. The good thing is is it's Bob Marley, So
you're supposed to just relax. Man, it's every Everything's fine.
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(03:13):
should be.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
It's okay that there's no football game.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Luckily, we've got the most tense, dramatic, throw the records
out basketball game that you've ever seen coming up in
just over a half hour. Can't wait now, Look.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's too easy to rip all star games.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
We'll talk a little bit later about how to make
this compelling, if it's even possible anymore. But let's start.
We got plenty of football stuff to get to, Carrie.
I can tell you here in the San Francisco Bay area,
we are still unpacking. We are still unpacking what happened
last weekend. So there's a lot to get to there.
But NBA first and foremost. After a press conference held

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by Lebron James earlier today, let me ask you this, Kerry,
any relationship you want, think of it. You don't need
to even tell us which one can be your mom,
your dad, a former partner or friend, whatever. Just imagine
that relationship, think about it for a second, and then
tell me. In that relationship, were you the one in control?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Uh? You know, control is an illusion mark, So I'm
gonna I'm gonna I'm going to say no. I'm going
to say no to that. I'm going to say I've
never had control of anything.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Control wealth, amen to that, right, like control the things
we can control of the older. We again, we're like,
I don't think it's anything. I don't think it's anything
like you your mood. Maybe maybe if you're lucky, you
feel like you can control your mood and and what
you eat. I don't know if there's anything else, but here,
here's why I ask. And I love that you responded

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by saying control is an illusion, because just within the
last week, we have had the story come out courtesy
of Adrian Warjsnarowski and Ramona Shelburne that the Golden State
Warriors and Los Angeles Lakers got on a eleventh hour
owner to owner call about a potential Lebron James trade. Okay,

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the Lakers say no, but somehow it also ended up
with Clutch Agency, and then they said no. And then
Lebron came out today and said things like, well, hopefully
my career ends with the Lakers, but then went on
to say, but I don't have the answer to which

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uniform I'll be wearing, and I chuckled because for the
Los Angeles Lakers, I hope they know this and I
bet they do. In this case, control is a total illusion.
Lebron James will finish in whatever damn uniform he well pleases,

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because that's who's got control here. So I ask you,
how do both sides play this? Lebron? I have no
doubt ops out at the end of the year, the
Lakers do what they make the playoffs probably maybe do
they win around who knows?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
But how do you want this thing to finish? If
you're Lebron James?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Man?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Lebron James, obviously he's he's playing the long game. So
I mean we all know the finality of what that means.
A long game for him is playing with his son, right,
playing with the sun at whatever destination he ends up
last at. Right, So I think that's neither here nor there.
I think we all can agree on that. But for him,

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I don't know what else he's planned for. He's not
in a situation now where he's gonna win a championship,
and if that's what he wants on top of playing
with his son, then why not why not make that
step to Golden State where obviously teaming him up with
Curry and Draymond and Kaminga and Wiggins and all those guys.

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Wiggins probably would have been gone if the trade happened,
but probably that core that would have been his best
chance to win a championship. Now, I'm sure in those talks.
Along those talks again, I'm sure he's propositioning that his
son's going to be tagging along to whatever destination he
goes to. And I'm sure, you know, Golden State was

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probably the most sound team out of all these teams,
and they were probably like, I don't know if that's
that's gonna work out. You know, I think the Lakers
will probably acquiesce to what he wants. So I'm sure
he probably will end up staying here. But I don't
really see any other position where he could do both

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win and have a son there. So that's kind of
where I kind of stand with it. I don't know,
what do you think, Mark.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, I tell you what I mean. The priorities for me,
You're you're kind of top dancing with both of the
priorities that I think are on people's minds, right, which
is winning and playing with his son. Which one drives
him more I don't know. It kind of feels like
playing with his son, to be honest with you, drives
it more. Although he did mention once he phrased it
as playing on the same court as my son, So

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I don't know. Maybe he's talking about as opponents. And
here's the other thing, I mean, what are we really
talking about here? This shows how much control Lebron is in.
He's literally ushering a player into the league and conducting
potentially what team that player goes to, and without Lebron,
I don't even know if that player is going to

(08:31):
make the league. I don't even know if that player
would get drafted if it weren't for his name, which
is actually a really I mean, a completely separate conversation
about his path talking about Bronni's and whether it's realistic fair.
I mean, I once had a conversation with a guy
by the name of Jerry Rice Junior. Do you know

(08:51):
who his dad is? And yeah? And he was like,
you had no idea how difficult this was to try
to be a wide receiver and go make an NFL
team when your name is Jerry Rice Junior, like your
your expectations and the talk going around you completely different

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than than any other player who might be in that position,
which is oh late draft, undraft whatever. So the whole
thing is is a little bit odd. But if those
are the two priorities, then yeah, carry I don't even
necessarily know if it's Golden State. I just know that
it's it's elsewhere, is probably the answer. I don't think

(09:35):
loyal to the Lakers is on this list.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, I don't think loyalties at the top of its
list at all. I don't think it's ever been. It's
all It's always been about him, right, And that's just
I think that's a fair thing to say. I mean,
even in the situations with him doing the taking my
talents to South Beach steal, like so I have a
big press conference about that. I mean, it's just like,
you know, it's it just says I'm I'm about me, right,

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and you can frame in any way you want, but
that's the truth.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, here's the other thing I was thinking about. Here's
what's really fun, all right, eleventh hour conversation, trade deadline
is coming. It ends up that Joe lacub and Genie
Buss end up on the phone together. The Lakers say no,
but it still ends up with clutch. In other words,

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Genie says, well, we say no, but what does Lebron want? Right?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
And my immediately, my immediate thought is you.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
The trade deadline is in eight hours, and you don't
know the answer to that question. And it ends up
with clutch. And then the whole thing is framed.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Us the public as whoa Lebron had no idea, like
this just came out of nowhere, As if Draymond Green's
first call, if he really wanted to push this would
be to his own owner. No, like He's gonna text
his best friend and be like, how we going to
make this happen?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And then it doesn't. But I guess what I'm saying
is it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I don't know if it ever will happen, But I
don't believe for one second the reasoning that we were
given for it not happening.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, Lebron's never in the dark about anything that's going
on in his life. And that's again, that's a fact, right.
I mean everything that he does, I mean even an interview,
even postgame stuff, all of his stuff is very much
attached to something that he has his hands on, right,

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And I think that's just who he is.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Interesting, man, Can I ask one other question?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
So this goes public, woj Ramona Shelburne, somebody gave it
to him. Of course, who wants the story public? And why?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh, it's definitely Lebron because it's it's leverage again, right
with the Lakers saying they said no, it gives them
a little cushion to say, no, we're doing everything we
can to win and we're not going to trade our
best player. So that gives them a little solid ground, right,
But it also gives Lebron and it puts the power

(12:14):
in Lebron's court again, and so that's what he likes.
And so I think both situations are at peace with
what happened. It's not like one of those things that
got leaked from one person and the other didn't know.
They definitely knew, and then you come out pr pr
one O One is if you're trying to say face
for two individuals, or you talk about a marriage. We

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talked about that before, Like I mean, if it's a
marriage and you have those joint statements come out, somebody
they're coming out with those joint statements, so everything's kind
of dead. And the rest can be left alone. This
is what we said, this is how we're operating, and
this is it, and that's what they did. All right,
this is gonna be fun. First and foremost, we want
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Speaking of the FSR family, Carrie, coming up next, I
heard this week at least two of our brethren here

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at Fox Sports Radio. Two of them two unleashed what
I can already tell you on February eighteenth, there are
ten and a half months to go in this year,
and can already tell you it was the worst sports
take of the year, and two of our brethren at

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least both put that same opinion out. We'll let you
know who and we'll let you know what they said.
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Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, that's Carrie Rhodes. I'm Mark Willard, Tyrack dot
Com Studios. Look, they're friends of mine, so I don't
mind saying it. And maybe they weren't the only two
saying it. I only know which ones I saw on Instagram.
Fox Sports Radios Instagram feed gave me both Rob Parker
and Ben Maller with the fire Kyle Shanahan Take oh,

(15:18):
Mark Fire Fire Kyle Shanahan. Go ahead, Carrie, Mark, you
do it first. You do it first. Listen.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I was I was with Rob on that on that day,
on that hot take day.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh that's right, right, I completely saw.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I was. I was flabbergast at number one. But I
also think the just the audacity of calling for a
guy's job, we call for people jobs a little bit
too much. Number one.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I'm not into it. I'm not into it. I
really am not. I'm not like, like, I don't like
what what does this sound? Milk and cookies. I kind
of made it a agreement with myself years ago that
I would not use these microphones to call for people's jobs,
especially in cases where I'm not even embedded in that
city and have no real idea about the details that

(16:14):
are going on.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, it's it's tough. I mean, obviously we live in
a in a take business that we work in a
take business, but it's it's one of those things where,
I mean, the guys had so much success, and you know,
you think about guys who can come in and possibly
be a replacement. He made he made some good points,
and it was like, yeah, I hear you. There's been

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situations where like in Tampa, you know, Dongee couldn't get
the job done, they took him out, and you know,
the next year, Goodon wins it. So you could see
those things and be like, okay, but you got to
think about this situation though, what he's done for them,
and especially with the forty nine ers not really having
that that stud at quarterback yet. I mean, if you

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you tell me that if Kyle Shannon had was in
Kansas City with my homes, they wouldn't be doing the
same thing right now. And so that's that was my argument.
But also the double down on that is the person
that he called in to take his place, he said,
Bill Belichick, and I'm like, and I'm like, you got it.

(17:20):
You gotta stop that. And that's where I had the
more I was more in a disagreement with the whole
thing was Belichick's not He's not any any teams guy
right now. He's done. He can't relate to the players,
and so just that take just didn't sit well with me.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
He's about to turn seventy two years old, and no,
I'm not talking about Rob Parker. I'm talking about Bill Belichick.
And you're being too nice and say this to Rob's face,
because he's a very good friend of mine. No, he
didn't make any good points. I listened to all of it.
He made zero good points. He made Rob Parker points,
which are like, I'm gonna grab this very very easy

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piece of fruit to pull off of the tree, and
I'm gonna do that, and then I'm gonna chop it
into a bunch of pieces and put it into a smoothie.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Like No, I can obliterate this, and I can do
it long or short or either way.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
But the idea of like we've got an example here
in the Bay Area of what you're talking about, like
the Tony Dungee situation, it's Steve Kerr, Like Mark Jackson
built this warrior thing up to a certain level, and
it couldn't quite get over the top, right, and then
Steve Kerr walked in and a dynasty was born. How
much of that is Steve steph blah blah blah. That's

(18:35):
ancient history. But the point is is I can see
that in a general context. But that doesn't mean that
you do that every time somebody just falls short. I mean,
if you're the Philadelphia Eagles, I know the way that
the whole thing has played out, but you're literally gonna
tell me go back in time, it was the right
thing to fire Andy Reid because he was a bad coach, right,

(18:58):
like who quote couldn't get it done. And now he's
some unbelievable genius. He knows all these things about football
that he didn't know when he was with the Eagles.
He didn't know how to.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Coach the fourth quarter. No, No, he didn't have the
best player in the game then and now he does.
Like we can really just do.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
That in one sentence. But Kyle Shanahan, and I want
to give a shout to a different FSR colleague, and
that's Jonas Knox because I'm driving around yesterday listening to
him make a point that I've been trying to make
all year. Those of you ripping Kyle Shanahan on the
down low have actually, at the same time this year

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been calling him the greatest coach in the game.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
And you don't even realize it. You don't even realize
it because.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Every single time that you call Brock Purdy a product
of the system, every time you say, while this seventh rounder,
he's just got weapons around him and a genius play caller.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Kyle Shanahan, how does it feel when you look at Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Garoppolo's career now and think about the fact that he
took that quarterback to a ten point lead in the
fourth quarter of a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
That quarterback. So look around the league. Jonas made this point.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I agree the forty nine ers were.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Favored in this game.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
In other words, you think so much of this coach
that you actually expected him to beat Andy Reid and
Patrick Mahomes with a little seventh rounder who carries up backpack.
You expected him to beat him, and then when he

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lost in overtime, you suggest that he should lose his job. Look,
you're allowed to say whatever you want, but you sound
ridiculous when you say that.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I just hope everybody say it, but just know you
sound ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, no, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
It was one of those things where I was I mean,
I saw the Breakdown coming to the show, and I
was like, oh, that's interesting. So that's my first thing.
I'm like, oh, I'm interested, that's interesting. And then you know,
you hear, hear why, and you just it doesn't hold merit.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
This is one of those things where I mean, again,
we live in a society where what have you done
to me?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Now, not even lately. What have you done for me
right now? And so if the results don't yield to
what people want it to be in that moment, yeah,
there's gonna be knee jerk reactions to it. But again,
the guy's a hell of a coach obviously, and he
does not have well Perty might end up being that guy,
but he I think I think Perty's.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Fantastic, you know what I mean, He's fantastic. But but
you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I I don't know how every the national narrative can
be like wow, system system him, which means.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
You think the system is amazing it is, Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Then you and then you lose a football game in
overtime to Patrick Mahomes and you go, I think we're
done with this guy.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I know, Mark, all right, listen to this though, So
what about the obviously genius We know that he's great
at what he does. What do you think about the
decision in overtime? Does he is he to be blamed for?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
That?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'm so glad you asked, because I don't want the
take that. I just had to make it sound like
I think Kyle Shanahan coached a perfect game because they
don't think that.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
So let's get into why did they why did they in.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Your mind carry lose? And I'll answer the ot question
as well, but not until Steve Desager does some talking.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Let's let's let's get Steve Disager in here and.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Do some talking. Hey Steve, Hello, gentlemen.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
We do have the NBA All Star Game in Indianapolis tonight.
Do to start in about ten minutes. It is back
to East versus West with traditional scoring in this game tonight.
The starting guards in the East from the Pacers in
his home arena, Tyrese Halliburt and also Damian Lillard of
the Bucks. The top three in the East front court
voting where Jana Santanacumpo, Joel Embiid and Jason Tatum and

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Beaid of course is hurt. So it was revealed this
weekend that Miami's bam Adebayo is due to start the
Daytona five hundred was postponed to tomorrow at four pm
Eastern time on Fox TV. It rained all weekend there
and the Exfinity series opener will be held Monday morning,
eleven am Eastern time on FS one. Hideki Matsuyama won
the PGA of nt in LA by three strokes after

(23:35):
a final round sixty two. Wills Alatoris tied for second place.
The San Francisco Giants officially signed DH Jorge Solaire to
a three year contract. Everybody's reported to spring training. All
the thirty MLB teams. College hoops upset at Ohio State today,
the Buckeyes beat number two rank for Due seventy three
sixty nine, as the Buckeye's interim coach made his debut,

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Jake Diebler. The Ohio State had been four four and
ten in conference play. South Florida, now twelve and one
in the American Conference, got a home win against twenty
fourth ranked Florida Atlantic ninety to eighty six. Northwestern on
FS one got a win at Indiana seventy six seventy two.
Seaton Hall won its game on FS one at Saint
John's in a comeback sixty eight sixty two, and right

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now on FS one, they've just started the second half
at UCLA Bruins leading thirty eight thirty four against Utah
in the NHL an outdoor game in New Jersey, same
as they had with the Devils last night. Today it
was the Rangers coming back to beat the Islanders in
overtime at the Jets and Giants Stadium six ' five
the final and as far as NHL in progress, Coyotes

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tied three to three in the third at Colorado, LA
Kings lead with a couple minutes to go at Pittsburgh
two to one guys. At All Star weekend for the NBA,
there was the announcement of the Basketball Hall of Fame
finalists list. They include this year Chauncey Billips and Vince Carter,
who was eligible for the first time. Also up for
the Hall this year Davis, Michael Cooper and as an

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executive Jerry West. He was nominated by the Contributors Committee.
Also up coach bo Ryan, Doug Collins as a contributor,
Pacers owner Herb Simon, Simone Augustus, and Michelle Timms. But
players like Sean Marion and Amari Stodamayer did not make
this year's finalist list. They are a total of fourteen
finalists from the various committees. We will find out the

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Hall's class of twenty twenty four at the final four
April sixth. Inshriman will be in mid August. Back to
You Wow, Zave.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Great stuff as always, and thank you for mentioning that
all thirty teams have reported. Unfortunately, most of the top
free agents have not.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Standing by Yeah, I mean, my god, the Boris four.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
What do we what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (25:42):
What?

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Like?

Speaker 7 (25:44):
I mean, and no sooner had Baseball suggested, you know,
maybe we should have like a free agent signing period
where there's a definite start and end to this in
the offseason, and Borro says, no, no artificial deadline, just
bringing down the value of my clients.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
True, he's not wrong, he's not wrong, but baseball could
use a little gusting up on I don't know, being
interesting and fun. I mean free agency in the other sports.
It just kills baseball because of this. Like and the
Boris clients always seem to be the ones who has
spring chaining reports. They're just they're still I'm sure Blake

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Snell is still playing video games on Twitch.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah, probably with Cody Bellinger.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right right, which sounds like a ton of fun. But anyway, actually, Carrie,
we'll discuss that a little bit later. Thanks Steve, great stuff. Okay,
here's I'll answer your question. The overtime thing. So here's
where I started during the game I'm like, well, yeah,
no brainer. You got to take the ball, right, because

(26:48):
if you're both tied, you've got to have the first
sudden death. I'm not giving Patrick Mahomes the first sudden
death and only needs is a field goal, and he's
got a kicker who can hit from six. That felt
ridiculous to me, but then life unfolds. The forty nine
ers all admit their.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Confusion exactly and the Chiefs, and the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Admit, well, no, we would have gone for two, like
if it goes touchdown, touchdown, we're going for two. Now,
apparently the teams could have traded field goals, but that
feels like that's too wobbly of a reason alone to
do it. So here's where I've arrived. You can convince
me of either with this caveat. If you're going to

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defer and give the Chiefs the ball first, which is
where it feels like America has arrived, is the no
brainer thing to do. If you're going to do that,
you're promising yourself, your team, and your fans right there
in that moment that if Mahome scores a touchdown, you
now know you need to go the other way and

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score a touchdown. If you do, you go for two period.
I don't think that that was the Niners plan, but
I there is zero chance in hell that I am
giving Patrick Mahomes the ball back in sudden death when
all they needs is a field goal that I am

(28:20):
totally uncomfortable with. Right, So I will arrive at everybody
else's answer, which is, you got to defer if and
only if you commit to if we trade touchdowns, we're
going for the deuce.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
All right, one more thing, Okay, I understand, I got that.
That's fine. So down the stretch, San Francisco goes, you know,
driving they're going. I think it's a minute and fifty
something seconds left in the game. Possibly it's around.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
There coming out of the two minute warning foot.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
And four yes, yes, why not run the ball there
and make Kenness City to use the time out? Just
like situational things that were happening in this game.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
That no, it.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Makes other people's arguments an argument just by game management
things and things that as the head coach, you have
to make those those critical critical decisions, but also have
a real game plan in those situations. So preparedness is
a thing. So go ahead, Mark, here's my issue with that.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
My issue with that is, first of all, Kansas City
at that point in the game had been doing pretty
good job is stopping the run. And I've heard this
argument where people say, well, no, you're like make it
four down territory. If on third and four you get two,
go for it on fourth and two. And I'm like, yo,
your aggressiveness has gotta have a cap on it somewhere,

(29:40):
like sure, for crying out loud, it's a tie game.
It's a tie game with under two minutes to go
in the Super Bowl. I think I'm just not going
to like dismiss three points in that sort of a way.
And I'd also argue, like the way you framed that
question was, well, you make Kansas City use the time out.
All right, let's go there, they run the ball, Casey

(30:01):
calls a timeout and now there's a minute forty five
on the clock, but you're stopped short. You kick the
field goal. Yeah, well, now you're kicking the ball to
Kansas City and they've got a minute and forty and
still one time out. That's plenty of time.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, it is for sure like it just for me,
that risk does not equal the reward.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I love that Kyle Shanahan, who is often accused in
these situations of not being aggressive enough. You know, he
went for it on fourth down the drive earlier, got it.
It led to a touchdown. That's what got the Niners
the lead in the fourth quarter. Get that first down.
I thought, I thought Brandon Ayuk. I thought Brandon Ayuk
was opened out of the slot and Brock didn't see him. Yeah,

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I thought that too. Yep, he did, Brock, party could
have thrown it to Ayuk. They probably get the first down,
and if they do, they win the game. And there's
about ten plays where I could say that.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, and that's and I'm with you, Mark, So I'm
just throwing hypotheticals out there with you on that on
that topic. But yeah, you go win the game. I mean,
and they showed that they were doing that down. And
I mean even when they went for the fourth down.
I didn't think they would go for the fourth down.
I thought they kicked the field goal. They went for
the fourth down, got the first down, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
So I was terrified. I'm like, you know, it's like
those no no, no, yes, no, out of those situations.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And I'm at a Super Bowl party and I'm talking,
you know, like everybody's asking me questions because oh, you
played the game, what are they gonna do? I'm like, yeah,
they kicked the field goal here, and I'm like, oh, they're.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Going for Okay, okay, Kyle, all right, let me ask
you this real quick and then we can talk about
it a little bit more. But if I just open
ended question and said, why do you think they lost
the game? Yeah, well, how would you answer that?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I think the game was lost in the first in
the first quarter, and I know a lot of times,
I mean, you can look at the total sum of
the game and you can find and pick and choose
certain moments of why you lose. But they they it
seemed like in that game, the flow of the game
they were in control of, even though they weren't really

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obviously making hay or putting points on the board. It
just seemed like they had Kansas City bottled up. And
the fact that they weren't able to sustain drives in
that first half to get points, I think that's where
they lost the game. I think, obviously Kansas City did
a great job of committing, committing to the run and

(32:27):
stopping stopping the run and making making Brock have to
make tough third down put the third down, throw the
first downs, where obviously Spagnoy's a genius on third down,
So you're not gonna, you know, for a guy like
Perty who hasn't played enough ball yet. And you know,
obviously I don't know how how many answers to the
tests he has when he goes to the line of scrimmage,

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But I don't know if he had enough time or
Shanahan had enough confidence in him to get them into
the right play in those situations. So I think there's
a combination of that where you know, Shanahan knows how
good and how complex and how deep Spack know you
bag is when it comes to putting pressure on the quarterback.

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And so there's a there's a fine line of being
being being aggressive and being a little a little a
little safe because they're still in the game of not
wanting to have Purty make that key turnover. Yep, and
those things happen in the game where you have to
trust that guy. If you know that guy is the

(33:31):
guy at the quarterback position, you give him enough answers
to the test to where obviously you can if you
know the blitz is coming, and you've been prepared, you
can make those plays. But it was it was moments
in that first half, first quarter where those third down
little completions to keep the drive going for San Franz
weren't there for them. And if they make one or

(33:52):
two of those and get a little lead, I think
that game, I think they win that game by double digits.
And so that's where I kind of stand with it.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, don't forget the Christian McCaffrey fumble. They were flying
down the field. They were gonna score fast, three, probably
seven the way that was looking. All right, we're in
the tyrack dot com studios. Yeah, I got an answer
to the question. And it's just like it's an unsatisfying one,
but but but to me, it's the answer. We'll give
that to you next coming up with Kerry Rhodes Mark Willard,

(34:20):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
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Speaker 1 (34:36):
Okay, in the tire Rag dot com studios. I don't know, Carrie,
did you see this coming? Did you did you know
that the Tyrese Haliburton in his in his home arena
was going to be the MVP of the All Star Game.
I did not see that coming.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
No, no, no, did it happen? No, it's yes, it's
over won the award. Yep, yep. You had fifteen points
in the first three and a half. It's the game.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's crazy.

Speaker 8 (35:03):
No.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, he hit all the three pointers, which is which
is not terribly surprising. It almost feels scripted. Oh the
script I know, you know scripted content. Care so I
do run that value? Now, this is this is unsatisfying.
It stinks for sports radio. But the forty nine Ers

(35:26):
lost the Super Bowl because too many of the players
didn't play well.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
They made mistakes in big moments and there was just
a bunch of them.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And when a team is not buttoned up like that,
does the head coach have a piece of the responsibility.
Of course he does. Of course he does. Like the
whole picture like it's it's you know, and again it's
It does not make for a great radio SoundBite. I
can't sit here and battle Rob Parker's fire Shanahan with

(35:58):
Spencer Burford went the wrong way. I can't do that. No,
that's boring. You don't even know who Spencer Burford is.
But in overtime on third and four from the five
yard line or whatever it was, with two wide receivers
literally standing by themselves in the end zone, you had

(36:18):
Chris Jones with an unblocked run at brock Party. And
if Spencer Burford had literally just stood where he was
standing and not moved, he didn't even need to get
out of his crouch.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
If he had simply not left, that would have at.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Least made Jones go around him, and that would have
been plenty of time for brock Perty to pick either
of his wide open touchdowns, either of them. And then
then it's twenty six nineteen in overtime, and who knows
where we're going next. Are the Chiefs able to go
all the way and get a touchdown? Do they actually
go for two? Do they get it? But that, as

(36:56):
we've discussed, Carrie, that's one of probably eight to ten plays,
you know, Darryl Louder Junior having his foot being the
wrong spot on a punt or whatever. You all don't
even know who these people are, So I can't argue, well,
Kyle Shanahan's fired because he's a joker in the big game.

(37:16):
Great SoundBite.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
What the hell does that even mean? What does that mean?
That's not what happened out there.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Hey, that's gonna be the lasting impression. We're talking about
it still today on Sunday. So he made his mark.
And I know when I was looking at some of
the comments from the podcast though, I mean a lot
of people thought it was an Acid nine take, but.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
It is.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
But I might have been one of the people with
that call. Man, I think I saw I saw it.
It was a MW nineteen seventy three. That was you right,
That's right, that's my burner exactly. No, it's fun to
talk about though, Mega. I mean it's one of those
things man. For Yeah, I mean the guy is gonna
eventually win one. And I mean the team as long

(38:06):
as they keep that team together, Now that's a different story.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I mean they have that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yes, they have guys that are that are starting to
you know, want to be paid and some want to
be gone and demanding certain things. So now we got
to see if they can actually keep those guys together
to go after it again.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean, no doubt, and and and if if, if
you really need someone or something about which to criticize
Kyle Shanahan, I think the whole game management thing.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Is the wrong spot. Let's go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Why did you hire Steve Wilks in the first place,
if that's how you felt about the whole thing? In
other words, if he needed to do a crash course
and learn a completely, you know, different style of defense,
you went off the tree for the first time in
your career and and brought someone in and and it

(38:56):
was it was.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
It was a bad marriage from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
For those of you didn't follow forty nine or football,
they were they were kind of throwing I mean, he
was throwing Steve Wilkes under the bus back in week seven, yes,
for mistakes that he was making or perceived mistakes. So like,
why did you do that? And why does it look
like your team has mentally come unraveled in in the
wake of this loss. Those are the questions I have, right.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Right, And that's it. And and that's the other thing
with the Wilkes thing. I mean, people are saying that
obviously they're using Wilkes as escapegoat, But if you really
paid attention throughout the year, there was moments early on
in the year where you know, Wilkes job was kind
of in jeopardy at that point as well. I mean,
there was there was rumblings of them not being a
good fit, and obviously the defense wasn't playing as well

(39:46):
during that stretch. So this isn't something I mean, obviously
it looks that way, but it was stuff that was
going on early on that people may have missed.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Week seven, Niners are five and one, coming off their
first loss in Cleveland. Steve wilk calls U zero blitz
yes with twenty five seconds left on the clock before halftime,
and the Vikings turn it into about an eighty yard touchdown.
Kashan Ahan holds up press conference two days later and says,
Steve knows he messed up.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'm like, you said that into a microphone.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I'm like, oh, this is not going well. Yeah, it's
not going well. So you're right, Carrie, that thing was
destined to fail or be a divorce from the beginning. Okay,
coming up next, let's get to that free agency question.
Does there need to be some sort of a deadline?
Is Scott Boris right? We're watching the All Star Game,

(40:36):
Mark Willard carry Rhodes. This is Fox Sports Radio. Remember
we started the show off tonight with the idea of control.
Who has it? I loved your point that and I
forget the exact word you use, but control is basically
a figment of your imagination. Even if you think you
have it, you don't. And I certainly think if the

(40:59):
Lakers think I loved it. Although yeah, the Lakers have
declined to trade Lebron James. Oh, you'll do whatever Lebron
tells you to do. That's how this works. Are you
new here?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
So okay, let's talk more about control.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yep. Isn't that what Rob Manfred and Scott Boris are
talking about? As we get ready to start the baseball season,
they're now calling them the Boris four. I love it.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
It's almost like there's some little political.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Wing out here. We've got the Boris four. So we
got four free agents who are unsigned, Blake Snell, Cody Bellinger,
Matt Chapman, Jordan Montgomery. I think I've got those four
and they remain unsigned spring training. His open pitchers and
catchers have reported, and so has everybody else for that matter.
And we're moving along toward the start of the season

(41:51):
in a month and a half and these guys haven't
even signed. Rob Manfred says we probably should have a
deadline for free agent agency. Scott Boris says, you can't
just grab a pen and pick a day on the
calendar and make free agents take less money because you
circle that date. So they're after control. Yeah, I can

(42:14):
sort of see the point on both sides, but we
could break it down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
What do you think, Well, as a league, you have
the right to enforce enforce what you want to enforce.
I mean obviously, I mean there's steps to make that happen.
But obviously if you wanted to, you know, get to
a point where again we have some stability and accountability

(42:39):
on both parties to get something done. And also if
you're trying to make a product better, which we talked
about earlier, have some excitement around certain things and signing
dates and all this stuff, then you would do that.
If you're the person in quote unquote control, right, you
would have the ability to do that make that happen.

(43:01):
Obviously Boris and his track record and you know, as
being a superagent and having that type of relationship with
that type of control over what he's had going for him.
Then you know, there's a battle of those two wheels
that are happening right now. But if you're in it
for the betterment of your sport, of your game, of

(43:23):
your job, or whatever it is you do, then you
have to sometimes concede to make the ultimate choice for everybody,
right And I think that's where you know you have
to get to. And I think you have to get
to as MLB and as an agent or agency. I
think there needs to be a middle ground there.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I totally get where you're coming from. I mean, that's
the thing like baseball as a whole, forget just this
one issue. They need somebody to shake them. They need somebody.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
It's like, you guys just don't have that entertainment and
flare in you do you like you all?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
They can't even like hire someone like they can't they
can't figure it out. You look at baseball in other countries,
people are dancing people, I mean, you know what I mean, people.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Are freaking out in the stands. They're going crazy, and
we're over here.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Just like.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Like that's that's the noise of a baseball game.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
But Mark, that's the noise of the grandfather getting off
the couch.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
As well, right exactly, like the noise of baseball is
what happens when you turn forty five and then you
make a putt in golf and then you lean down
to pick up the ball. That's it's like, my god,
can you guys? Can you get yourselves out of this?
And the answer every year is is no. With all

(44:51):
that said, Scott's not wrong. Yeah, he's not wrong. Now
here's the other thing that will happen. Baseball has more
leverage here than they they would think. I know that
the Players Union is very strong in that sport, but
baseball can easily just be like you already have a
faux deadline. It's called opening day. So in other words,

(45:13):
the second you don't sign as a free agent once
opening Day comes, well, now you're losing money. Work day
goes by, you didn't get paid. It's kind of like
if you own a home that you want to rent
out and you're like, I'm going to price this at
five thousand dollars and nobody's biting, and nobody's biting, and

(45:37):
one month goes by, and three months goes by, and
five months goes by, and it's like, you could have
priced this at forty three hundred. You think you're losing
seven hundred a month, you would have come out ahead, yes,
because now six months have gone by and you've gotten zero.
So like that deadline already sits there. I get what
Scott's saying. It's like, why why do you just first? Okay,

(46:01):
we get to January thirty first, and I'm just like, welp,
I guess I better sign.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You know, No, you've got to use opening day as.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Leverage for both sides. For both sides, the team wants
the player and the player wants to get paid.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, it's Mark, It's one of those things. But you're
one hundred percent correct. But I think it's you said it.
I mean, baseball is such a traditional sport and they
don't like to do anything that shakes up the foundation
of their forefathers, right. It really feels that way like
any other sport, like obviously, like basketball, NBA is really

(46:43):
extreme on trying to monetize everything, right, and it's almost
to a point where it's gimmicky, and you can see
that right with the end season tournament. But at least
they're trying, right, And that's the thing that I you know,
I'm a believer in I mean, you can stay the
status quo as long as you want, obviously that's your right.

(47:06):
But when the status quo is what we just described,
a fifty five year old man getting off the couch,
then something's kind of wrong. And if they don't see that,
then I think there's there's a problem with the infrastructure
and what they're trying to get accomplished.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I am so glad that you just brought up the
NBA In Season tournament? Can we can we pause on
the baseball thing?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
And can we sure?

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Can we play a little game?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Who won the NBA In Season Tournament this year? Well?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I only know that because I'm in LA and it's
It was the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Do you remember who they beat? They beat?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Wait, come on, you know, I'll get it. I'll figure
it out. Now, you'll get it.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
You'll get it.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
But I have your pause already. Okay, but no, yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
It was the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
That's correct, that's great. Somebody just fed that. No they no, no, no, no?
Did you google it? You googled it?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Did nothing? I just thought, okay, all right, do.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
You remember do you remember who the other two teams
that were in the final.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Four all right, now you're doing something. Okay, wait Milwaukee
mm hmm. And because the Pacers bill Milwaukee and who
did oh the Suns?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Right? Am? I right? I'm so sorry that was you
got one out of two the New Orleans Pelicans the
answer we were looking for, Carrie, although I'd argue you
kind of did well enough that my point isn't like
a home ride.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
It might have been like a double down the line.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
But the NBA Cup as they called it, the NBA Cup,
and you admitted you only knew this because you live
in LA. And I was impressed that after a count
to fifteen and you were able to remember that they
beat the Pacers. But I listen, I hate ever sounding
like a fuddy duddy. It's not my thing like it, don't.

(49:05):
I don't wish everything was like it was ten to
twenty years ago. I don't want to ever be like that,
like we're here now, let's do now. But this NBA
and season tournament for me, was one of those topics
that I had the hardest time getting behind because I
was like, I wanna, I want to be into what

(49:27):
you're doing. You had cool paint on the floor. That
was fun. It's different different is fun. But I racked
my brain and I read. I read all the rules.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
I went through the whole thing, and I'm like, you
guys just made it a whole event.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
And I don't think you thought at any point what's
in this for the fans?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Right? I have no idea? Am I supposed to be
excited about this? Because the floor was like a different color?
What's in it for the fan? Like the players are like,
we get money. I'm like, you already get money. And
I was openly rooting against my favorite team in the

(50:20):
N Season Tournament because I was like, because why do
I want my favorite team.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Playing extra games? You're in the age of load management.

Speaker 9 (50:31):
You're already telling me you can't play eighty two and
now you're gonna go play eighty three or or like
I don't want And by the way, when you get
knocked out of the N Season Tournament early, you know
how there's those scheduled games over the next week and
a half that are sort of like TBD as far
as who your opponent was.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Right, yeah, you got easy teams.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
So like the Warriors got knocked out and they got
a game against Portland.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I'm like, that's a win.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I Carrie, I was openly rooting against my favorite team too,
because they reached a point where they needed to beat
the Sacramento Kings, but by eleven, because there's another I'm like,
what is it? What am I watching? They had to
beat the Kings by eleven? I was like, beat them
by nine, beat them by nine, get the win, then

(51:25):
get another freebie win against Portland and don't play an
extra game. Yeah, am I am? I supposed to like
want them to go to the NBA Cup so Steph
Curry can get five hundred grand.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
I just I'm sorry, I tried.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I lost. It was lost on me.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
What what what was what was in it for me?

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
What was the real thing with the fans? It was
supposed it was supposed to be it was going to
be competitive basketball, right, it was going to be teams
playing really hard in uh in November basket. So, I
mean that was the whole proposal. It was to get,
you know, teams to play for something. As a fan,

(52:06):
obviously you get to see a better product, that's the theory, right,
But again, these guys, you know, you know, maybe in
one of those games when it was a good game,
a good team. They played hard and it was fun.
But yeah, I don't know. I wasn't a big fan
of it either, man, And you know, having having these
guys out there running around on these super colorful courts,

(52:28):
it didn't really bump me in a direction of caring
about it in November. So I don't think it was
a huge win. I think it was a win that
the Lakers were in it in the last game, right,
I mean, people care about Lebron, so I guess that helped, right,
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
It was it was. It was weird. It was weird
for me. I'm glad that you brought up playing hard.
An NBA legend says that he really really wants everybody
to get back to playing hard in the All Star Game.
Do we do?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
We want that as fans? We can get into that.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
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(53:19):
Carry Rhoades, Mark Willard, tyrack dot Com Studios. Larry Bird
wants the players to play hard in the All Star Game.
Huge spoiler alert, gosh, I hope no one's driving home
right now. They're like, I tape the game, but spoiler alert,
they're not, and they won't. No, I don't even know

(53:44):
if they should. I don't know. Where is sports fandom
on this. You can answer this. I get it to
where people like don't like load management at the same
time the whole like, let's have peace rose end someone's
career at the All Star Game. We don't like that either,

(54:06):
Like I don't. I don't want Paul George to break
his leg in the All Star Game. You know, I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
That doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
So that's not the answer. I'm not sure how to
make this thing compelling. I'm I'm I'm really not. I'm
open to any ideas, but I just I don't know
if there's a way to do it anymore, unless unless

(54:35):
you gamble. I mean, as one of the honestly, it's
one of the only things I can think of. My
son a few hours ago, he's on this thing. There's
this app you know. I mean there's a thousand of
them is called like prize picks or whatever. Okay, and
he'll do this, He'll come up, he did, Dad, what
do you think? Check it out? And you know it's

(54:56):
like Jokic over four and a half assists, right right,
Jannis is over nine rebounds or whatever. He's got like
four players and he's tracking what those players are doing.
And I'm like, okay, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Outside of that, I don't I just I don't know
where you find the urgency and the heartstrings attached to
this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yeah, I mean, the whole lure of any any All
Star game. My Outside of baseball, I think baseball is
still pretty fun because it's kind of it's such a
skilled it's a skilled game, right, Like you got to
be really good at pitching if you're a pitcher and
you're in, and you got to be really good as
a hitter, and nobody wants to be embarrassed in that situation, right,

(55:39):
So it's that's still pretty solid. Outside of that, I mean, football,
it's a joke. Obviously. Now they're playing to hand touch flag,
which is fun. Flag is actually not bad. And the
I guess in the wake of we talk about wanting
to protect the players and not get hurt. So that
makes sense. And Flag globally is becoming such a big game,

(56:00):
it's about to be an Olympic game, right, so that
makes sense. With the NBA, though, I mean, you're I mean,
even in our Grandfather's day with the All Star Game,
we talked about that in earlier segment. Those guys didn't
play hard the whole game. They played hard when it
mattered down the stretch in the second half. First half,
you knew it was going to be guys getting layups

(56:21):
and dunks, and that's part of it. Second half, the
team's played a little bit more competitively and harder, and
that was fun. It was cool to see that. Right nowadays,
I mean, I think they could still go back to
that and maybe have some squeeze a little juice out
of it with the NBA All Star Game, But I mean,
I really don't see. I mean, these guys would much

(56:42):
rather be on break right now at this point in
the season. So I don't know. I don't know the
answer to that either, Mark, But I think my answer,
if I had to give one, would be just dish
out the award and give them a plaque and we
don't watch sports for four days, you know what I mean?
I think that would be my take on it.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Well, I just you know, you look at these and
it's almost like what I was just saying, with a
little gambling app and an individual parlay, Like I think
we just have to accept that that's what this is now.
The All Star Game is about individuals. And maybe it
always was, but like you know, the game we just
played with the nd season tournament, if I went back

(57:24):
in time and asked you in any given year to
tell me who won the All Star Game the year before,
oh yeah, for God's sakes, I mean, so why play hard?
Why should they? Nobody cares about the outcome of the game.
And if you don't care about the outcome of the game,
why should you play hard? You should actually these games.
If you really want to encourage these players to do something,

(57:47):
I would encourage them to turn this into the Harlem
Globe travers. That's way more fun. I'd love to see
Stephen Dame pull up from half court, you know what
I mean, Like with Jokich is going in for a layup,
pull us pants down. I don't care, Like, honestly, make
him make a joke out of it, because really all
anyone wants to see is the great performers perform. We

(58:12):
always want to see that. But in a regular season game,
there's also a crowd that is invested in the outcome
who wins. We're not gonna that. There's none of that here.
So I just like I almost turned this back to Larry.
Larry hopes they play hard. If Larry were sitting right here,
I'd be like, why right right, and answer that, why

(58:33):
why do you care? Right? Well?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
They want obviously the the game right like, for the
purity of the game. Like the purists would play hard
no matter if we were If the game was an
exhibition game, they didn't count. If it's an all star game,
it would it. Even if that doesn't count, we still
play hard as a chance for us to be grateful
because we're in this position. So I understand his stance.

(58:58):
I would guess that's his stance. But again, these guys
are more worried about their brands and their likelihood of injury,
which a lot of these guys aren't healthy anyway. They've
been they've played how many games so far?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Right now? Yeah? I mean, you know more than half
more than half. Exactly, we're closing in on fifty. Some
have already gotten there, I think.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I mean, there was a quote from Poor Zingis, which
who's probably the biggest All Star snub in this game
and he's not there. He was like, the question was
do you care that you were snub in this game?
And he was like, no, I got a chance to
go work on my tan and get some rest. So
it's like, I'm sure he's not the only one that
feels that way.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yeah, I do, like every year when and this isn't
just about the game. This is about the festivities as
a whole. Yes, like, look for some new things to do.
I didn't even watch the Dunk Contest last night, but
just based on checking in on social media, did not
appear too many people had a very good time watching it,
exactly like the Dunk Contest has now become something where
it's like it's almost like like a plan It's almost

(01:00:03):
like the Super Bowl halftime show, Like people are planning.
They're like, I can't wait to get to Twitter to
rip this. It's like if you hate, then just don't watch. Exactly,
don't watch. But I can tell you because me and
my girl ended up at a restaurant or just having
a cocktail and some advertisers last night, and who's in
the middle of the three point shooting contest and that

(01:00:25):
still will like draw my eye.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
That's okay, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
And then the Steph Curry Sabrina Yanescu thing like that,
especially with Caitlin Clark kind of on the way here
out of Iowa. I would look for more ways to
include and it doesn't have to just be women, like,
look for new ways to include new people who are interesting,

(01:00:49):
people who we want to watch. I mean, that's the
definition of a celebrity. We want to stare at you,
We want to see what you do. You may have
hated it out there, although I don't really understand why,
but there's no arguing what Taylor Swift did for this
whole picture this year, right, it made it more interesting.
There's no like, there's too much data to suggest that

(01:01:12):
that's a fact. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
But again, the thing that you just said, Mark, it's
still it comes down to the skill, right, Like the
three point shootout is a skill that yes, you cannot
most people in America, in the world can't do at
the level that those guys can do. It right where
you can actually you talk about data like, that's a
proven data point. Most people cannot shoot a three pointer

(01:01:36):
like Steph Curry or Sabrina and that school, right, So
that's interesting. I want to see what happens with that.
We know all these guys on this court right now
are the best at what they do, but we've seen
them do it before, so it's not even exhilarating anyway
from that standpoint for myself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Right right, I actually just saw someone now kind of
remark and it's a fair point, you know what. For
as much as we criticize defense in the NBA, yep,
they must be doing something because when you watch these
guys when there's no defense being played, they don't miss
exactly like they practically if you just leave these guys

(01:02:17):
by themselves to shoot, they're just like, yeah, we'll make
eight out of ten every time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
And you know what, thirty feet right mark? You know
how that I know that's true because I play in
I played against professionals a lot, and I play and
play with professionals in like summer leagues and stuff like that,
and even when the defense is in their face, I
mean a little bit, they don't miss. So yes, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
That was quite a flex that you just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yes, I did, Yeah, I did a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I heard that. Yeah all bad. Yeah, I play with
NBA players all the time. That's what I do. I did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I did a little I did a little a little
pump as well. You couldn't see it, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, I imagined it, did you know. Discover
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(01:03:18):
Steve Desager comes on the radio, no limitations. He's got
lots to say and we got nothing but time.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Hey brother, Hello gentlemen, And going off what Kerry said
about the MLB All Star Game. While a lot of
people watch it still, even though TV ratings in general
are way down across the board, is its actual baseball
that happens? Hitters act pitchers have the ball in their
hand and they actually try and strike out the hitters.
You know if there's a deep fly ball the outfielder

(01:03:44):
tries to rob the home run. I'm not seeing the
actual sport to its fullest in some of the other leagues.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I looked it up.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
MLB All Star Game on Fox last summer got seven
million viewers. NBA All Star Game was under four point
six million, which was way down for the previous year.
A year ago, it was the record low for the
NBA All Star Game. And there is one thing where
you could say baseball has actually changed, and that was
when they made their game more entertaining last year with

(01:04:13):
the rules changes and the faster games. Because last season
regular season in MLB, average time of a nine eight
in game was just under two hours forty minutes. Previous
year it was three oh four. So they kept the
elements and took out the dead time and had the
league's fastest time of game in nearly forty years. Total
paid attendance was up ten percent seventy million at MLB

(01:04:36):
last season. My favorite stat though, was on a list
of games lasting three and a half hours plus. A
couple years prior, there were a record number of them
three hundred and ninety games three and a half hours
plus Last year, there were nine games three and a
half hours plus baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Wow, that's winning.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
Yeah, So they needed to do something, absolutely and they
did something. Finally, it's a halftime. Can I pass along
the NBA All Star Game score? At halftime it's one
oh four to eighty nine. The East is leading the
West in Indianapolis. You mentioned earlier in the show, the
Pacers own Tyrese Haliburt. In first four minutes from three

(01:05:19):
point range, he was five of six, fifteen points. He's
up to eighteen at the half. Teammate on the East
Damian Lillard with twenty two points in the first half
to lead all scores. I count exactly one foul on
each side in the first half of this All Star I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Saw the album Steve, I was like, wow, they called
a foul. It was against Jason Tatum.

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
The Eastern Conference All Stars. And by the way, it
is back to East versus West and traditional scoring in
the game. We're not going to the elam ending or
any of that later on, but the East from three
point range just in the first half twenty two of
forty eight from long distance. Again, the halftime lead is
one oh four to eighty nine over the West.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I was like that sounds like the Boston Celtics steep.
Sorry a lot of threes, Okay, I.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
Thought you were talking about the total score. I know
scoring up this year in the league, but I don't
recall what four to eighty nine At the break Daytona
five hundred was postponed to tomorrow four pm Eastern time
on Fox TV. It rained all weekend there. Hideki Matsuyama
shot a final round sixty two in LA and took
the PGA event by three strokes. Will's Ala Taurus tied

(01:06:25):
for second place. College hoops game on FS one has
just ended with Utah beating UCLA seventy to sixty nine
on a last second put back. Earlier wins on the
road for Seaton Hall and Northwestern South Florida beat number
twenty four Florida Atlantic Minnesota over Rutgers, and Ohio State
up number upset number two per Due seventy three sixty nine.

(01:06:46):
This is Ohio State that was four and ten in
the Big Ten this year and had an interim coach
making his debut today, Jake Diebler. Ohio State had loss
nine of its last eleven games. Upset the boiler Makers
today just three nhlues outdoors in New Jersey. The Rangers
came back to win an overtime against the Islanders six five.
LA won two to one at Pittsburgh, Colorado at home

(01:07:08):
a four to three winner over Arizona, and to baseball.
The San Francisco Giants officially signed DH Jorge Solaire three years,
forty two million dollars. He led the Marlins with thirty
six homers last season with Atlanta, he had been World
Series MVP. Interesting I read on MLB that the Giants
have not had a thirty home run hitter since Barry

(01:07:29):
Bonds twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
That was shocking to me.

Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
Yep, what equally shocking this offseason? The Giants have committed
over two hundred million dollars to free agent editions, which
is number two in the majors, behind the Dodgers. Now,
it's a light year behind the Dodgers, but still. I
mentioned earlier that all the pitchers and catchers from all
the teams have reported to spring training. Most of the
full squad workouts start Monday or Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
This week.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
Show Heyo Tani will not play in the Dodgers spring
opener on Thursday against the Padres, coming off elbows. Dodgers
and Padres pitchers and catchers started workouts early since their
regular season starts with two games in South Korea against
each other March twentieth and twenty First, back to you, all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Right, So you're saying that they came to showhey and
said do you want to play in this game? And
he decided to defer? Is that what you're saying? That's
my guess, got it? Got it? Yeah, he does love
those deferrals, and so yeah, you're right, the Giants are
number two, three billion dollars behind the Dodgers, quite second
place in free agent spending something like that. That was

(01:08:34):
quick math. I might be a little off, but that's
what it feels like.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
So you're saying the Japanese players are more expensive than
the South Korean players, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Yes they are, Yes they are. Yeah, the Giants could
sign the entire Boris four and still be like a
billion dollars behind the Dodgers this offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Right man. I'm just surprised that nobody hit over thirty
home runs. I mean, bust opposey no, no, no, no, Buster.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Was like not you know, like I mean, I don't
even know if he ever hit twenty five in his career,
Like he was a great hitter, right, but not like
a huge power guy. No, I know, this is one
of those stats that like, if you're a member of
the fan base, you're like, oh, yes, no, I know
that stat. Nobody else knows that stat. I know about
that stat. I know that stat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Every year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Yeah, man, the that's what they've been doing, especially in
the last five years. It's been it's been such a
and I don't mean Nickel Diamond in terms of I
don't think they've quite spent enough, but they've not been
bottom half of the league or anything, but it's been
And you see this, it's not just the Giants. There's
a lot of baseball teams. You don't have guys get

(01:09:43):
enough at bats anymore to get thirty because there's so
many platoons, there's so much in the way of analytics
out there, and the Giants are a steroided version of
that conversation for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
So yeah, you just don't even like, I mean, the
only person ever threatened it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
I think a couple of years ago when the Giants
had that great year, Brandon Belt hit twenty nine and
then he got hurt. Wow, And that was the end
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Wow, that's one that I was out have guessed because
I mean, especially with the success they did as well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
So wow, right right right, So anyway, maybe so Layer
will will be the answer there, or maybe he will
get hurt for the thirteenth time in his career too.
You just you never know. By the way Steve mentioning,
you guys had that little exchange about the personal fouls
in this All Star game. Yeah, there are a total

(01:10:36):
of two, and it appears that there might be a
penalty for fouling as well. It appears that the guys
who are playing the least amount of minutes are those
who have also committed a foul.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
So it's like, if you commit a foul, you have
to take a lap.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Trey Young is somewhere out on the street outside the
arena taking a lap. He committed a foul, and he
has the lowest minutes in the entire game of any
All Star. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Okay, all right, yeah, so he's doing something. He's getting
some stats somewhere. Then that's that's what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
You know how it is in pro sports. Sometimes they
let him police themselves and the players are like, dude,
there's no fouls in this game. Don't don't foul me
take a lap exactly six minutes for Trey Young in
this game and and zero for two from three, so
karma is getting him as as well. All Right, we're

(01:11:31):
in the Ti rag dot com studios.

Speaker 9 (01:11:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Coming up next, Let's get back to football because I've
got another Super Bowl fallout related question for you, so
we'll do that coming up next along with Kerry Rhodes
Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio, all right, live
Ti rag dot com Studios. All right, Kerrie, remind everybody
what position you played when you were in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
I played safety. I'm trying to I'm trying to say
it to the song though Mare's. I'm here jamming right now.
My shoulders are bopping. Yeah, boy, I playing safety for
quite a few years in the NFL, and it was
an all pro you know. It's pretty pretty good at it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
And then other flex they're coming, they're coming fast and
furious right now, but at all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
It's the song.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
The song.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
The song got me going.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
It's okay, hey man, it's just reality. Like you all
pro safety in the NFL. Yeah, So when you're a safety,
you're you're mainly mainly responsible for what counterpart on the
offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
What counterpart I mean the quarterback tight end in that regard,
Somewhere in that regard is that where we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Well, I actually wanted to talk about the people that
you're not supposed to let get over your head.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Let's talk about wide receivers for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Yeah, with both of these Super Bowl teams, what are
you gonna do next year at that position? Start with
the Chiefs. They won. When you win, there sort of
the vibe of like, well, we don't need to change
anything because that was good enough.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
And I'm like, ah, the offense for the Chiefs wasn't
right this year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
No, And it was by far and away, by any metric,
it was the least productive that Patrick Mahomes was in
his career by far. So Travis Kelsey gets a year older,
go back through the Chiefs playoff run. They earned it.
I take nothing away, but how many times were they

(01:13:41):
you know, a Buffalo missed field goal and a Za
Flowers fumble at the one and we've already detailed like
that absolutely, And I you know, the word should in
sports is kind of silly because quite frankly, You could
easily sit down if you want to. It's kind of
a fun exercise. You could sit down and look at
all three of the Chiefs rings, or all four of

(01:14:02):
their trips to the Super Bowl under Mahomes and go,
They probably should have lost all four.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
That's not a crazy take down by ten to the
forty nine ers, down by multiple scores to the Philadelphia Eagles,
and everybody knows about what everyone said about last week
and the different ways that that could have gone and
all of that, so it should doesn't matter in pro sports.

(01:14:30):
But when I look at the Chiefs this year, I
see room for improvement. And that's one of the that's
one of the positions I would I would start with,
what would you do? There?

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Isn't that the crazy thing? We're having a discussion about
a flall team that won the Super Bowl. That's how
good he is? Yeah, that's how that's how good he is. Yes,
they were, they were. This was the worst team they've had. Well,
I'm not gonna say worst team. This is the worst
offense they've had at any point under Patrick Mahomes and

(01:15:01):
Andy Reid's time there. I think nobody would argue with that.
They can't. They can't stay status quo with that team.
They were fortunate to win it this year and you
can't take anything from them. They got it done. But
that team, if they were to bring that team back
and say let's let's do it again with the same squad,

(01:15:21):
there's no well, I would say there's no way they'd win, right,
no way. But they found away right, So it's kind
of hard to say it, but that would be the thing.
I would say. They have to make moves.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
It is really wild. I mean, if you just take
a moment and go, Okay, they made it through. And
I know there's different reasons for each of these. You know,
Joe Burrow got hurt, but Lamar Jackson the MVP, and
Josh Allen and the offense that the Dolphins are now
thrown at everybody, and what we expected Trevor Lawrence to
be and a division that included again go back to

(01:15:58):
how you felt about this at the beginning of the year,
a division that included Justin Herbert and Russell Wilson, all
of these things that whole afc north quite frankly, everything
everything that that conference throws at you and the Chiefs
came out and by our eyes were like, well, they're
not as good anymore. And they came out of it.

(01:16:20):
And then as soon as they popped out of it,
they faced the team that, by all odds was supposed
to be the best team in the NFL. Beat them too,
beat them too. And I was going to say with
full health. They were of full health at the start
of the game, but obviously had some things go on
in the middle of the game. But the Chiefs had
their injuries too, and so they deserve nothing, nothing but praise.

(01:16:43):
But come on, you don't need to be a fantasy
football player to know that it took. It took ten
games before any Chiefs receiver was like viable, like even
a viable player. And so now they've got one. They've
got one, Rashi Rice. That's a player. Yeah, but what

(01:17:05):
would you what would you do? Like, would you reprioritize
that they're seven to zero in the playoffs since they
traded Tyreek Hill but teams are prioritizing that position in
a new way in twenty twenty four, Would you reprioritize
it if you're the Chiefs?

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Yeah, No, you got to stay with the I think
you have to stay with the current times when it
comes to the NFL, right, the game continues to change
to evolve, and yes, they're putting stock and having, you know,
a number one guy at the receiver position. Riots could
possibly be that person now, but you still need help.
I mean they end up throwing a touchdown pass to

(01:17:47):
somebody that was on the Jets earlier in the year.
I mean, Mikol Hartman so and we know how his
season went this year. So I mean they're thin they
need help there, and I'm sure they're going to prioritize that,
and you have to. I mean, you got a school
points to win. They were fortunate enough to win this year,
but I mean the trend says you got to score
to win.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
It's fascinating, man, you now have I'm looking at it
right now. You have eleven players actually no, check that
you have thirteen wide receivers in the NFL making twenty
million or more per year. Wow. Really, wow, isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
That's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Thirteen wide receivers making twenty million or more with Tyreek
Hill being at the top of it making thirty million
a year. Wow. And while his numbers will make you go, well,
it's worth every penny. Yeah, I don't know, is it?
They went to Kansas City, it was cold, and we
knew they were eliminated before the plane even touchdown. And

(01:18:48):
Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes are now the two most
recent dynasties in the NFL. And you can define at
least Patrick's recent play and all of Tom's play by Yeah,
we just have guys at wide receiver and our quarterback
makes them great.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
And you know what's crazy, You're right. And I literally
said this throughout the year when the Chiefs looked like
they were gonna flame out and not be you know,
win win the championship. I was literally in one of
my takes on the on the on the previous show,
I was like, if Patrick, if Patrick Mahomes is that
guy in the Tom Brady years, in those early years

(01:19:30):
in New England, he was winning with guys that weren't
number one guys, And I said, he was gonna have
to do that to be for me to give him
that same type of respect that Brady had, And he
shut me up and did it this year.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
So there you go. Look, there you have it. There
you have it. He went and did it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
So I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I mean the Chiefs s end up in a good
spot now where they have someone who might be able
to perform as a number one receiver who's going to
be on a rookie deal, and and so maybe they
just sort of do a mini prioritization of that position.
Now they're Super Bowl counterparts, they are in a very
different pickle when it comes to the wide receiver position,

(01:20:12):
and we'll get into that coming up next with Kerry Rhodes,
Mark Willard more ahead on Fox Sports Radio. See now
that's what I'm talking about in the NBA All Star Game.
I don't know if anybody's watching this, Carrie, I don't
know if you're watching this, But a moment ago, Luka
Doncic all by himself and heading up to the rims.

(01:20:38):
So he tosses it up off the backboard to himself,
grabs it with one hand, and totally hangs himself on
the bottom of the rim. Yeah yeah, Luca, Look, far
be it from me to look at anybody's body.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I don't care what that guy's getting. Real big, he
is a large man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
In all the spots, is like anyway, you know, that's
my man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Dame Lillard grabbed the rebound and and I'm not exaggerating,
pulled up from the half court stripe all that I saw?

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
No, No, Luke, you know I'm a Dallas Maverick fan,
So what.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
What's going on there?

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
My man can't dunk none.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
He just dunked on the previous possession and he like
barely made it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
He barely rolled it over the rim.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
That's what makes you mad when you play Dallas, because
you look at him, You're like, that guy cannot be
the guy that's about to give me forty and he
gives you forty, and so yeah, forty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
But tonight he's given you four. He's zero for four
from three and he's hit the bottom of the rim
with a dunk.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
That's embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Luca. Luca is twenty four years old and he's already
got the old man game down out there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Yes, he'll be all for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Man, Man, I think I lied. Maybe he's only got
two points? Does he have four? No? Yeah, he does.
Updating it, he got four and the West is down
by almost thirty. But hey, Larry Bird thinks they're playing hard.
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So remember I said to you less than ten minutes ago,
I got the highest paid receivers in the game on
a list right in front of me right now. Thirteen
of them make twenty million or more. Number seven on
the list at twenty three point eight five million per

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year is Deebo Samuel and his counterpart on the other side,
Brandon Ayuk, is eligible for a contract extension, and after
putting thirteen hundred plus yards on the board this year,

(01:22:59):
I would already you it would seem unlikely that he's
not going to end up in this list of the
top thirteen. He's going to end up on that list,
he's going to be north of it's going to be
north of twenty million to keep Brandon Ayuk. Now, he's
under contract for one more year, but there's no doubt

(01:23:20):
that without an extension he would hold out. Yep. I've
followed the forty nine ers for years and I know
that this regime when they are definitely going to sign
an extension. They tell you, they tell you, they told
you when Deebo Samuel had scrubbed his Instagram, we're keeping debo.
When Nick Bosa held out for all of camp this year,

(01:23:44):
they had said for months, we've budgeted for Nick Bosa.
The answers about Brandon Ayuk over the last week or
so would suggest that they are not feeling too sure.
Combine that with the fact that fourteen seconds after the
game ended, his brother was already on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Going out, yep, we out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Brandon's crying. His girl is on TikTok saying this is
the last time we'll be at Levi's stadium. We think
for exit interviews. The whole thing is kind of catching
the fan base by surprise because the Niners have been
very very good at like if they draft you and
you're amazing and you deserve an extension after four years,

(01:24:30):
they keep their own only once when they traded to
Forest Buckner.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Have they gone the other way? But just think about
it now, are.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
You going to wrap forty five million per year up
into two receivers knowing that you've only got You've got
one more year of cheap brock perty before you need
to address that two more years on his contract, but
one more year until he will be extension eligible, Right, Carrie,

(01:25:01):
what would you do?

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
That's a that's a tough one.

Speaker 9 (01:25:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Brendon Ayuk is their best receiver, and I say that
that's that's just that's facts. Deebo's uh debos and multi
multi multi player type of deal, hyphen hyphenated type of
guy obviously can catch the ball, but you know, he's
he's more of a slash guy. And so I think

(01:25:25):
losing Ayuk would be a would be a big deal
to the San Francisco forty nine ers, even more than
Debo at this point, just because of you know, you
talk about pure receiver, pure number one guy, a guy
that's can run all the routes, can get separation, can
demand double teams and more attention. He's that guy. And
you know it's gonna be hard to pay both of

(01:25:48):
those guys. Now, I think you know, obviously, I you
can know, and their team has made made a you know,
and emphasis on you know, them wanting to be paid
and getting what they deserve. But that's when it comes
to the point of a lot of these times, man,
when you have these windows to win and you don't

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get it done, there's a price to pay, not even
and I say that you know in quotation marks price
to pay. There's a price to pay. Players are going
to deserve that they feel I mean deserve more and
feel like they deserve more and want more, and you know,
especially when they're integral parts. So that's success and so
that's a part of it. But when you miss that

(01:26:30):
window of not winning it as a player, there's also
a line where sometimes you could take a little less
to be on the team that you can win on
and know that you can have that success on. So
I kind of want to know more about Brandon. I
don't know him as a as a person, but obviously
people around him talking possibly for him, but I don't

(01:26:52):
know who he is as a player. Because obviously that
first contract, that big one, you want to get it,
and you should get it. But if you have a
window to win, that's where it gets hard for me
as a player. I know franchise is going to be
hard for them to pay both though.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
There's no two ways about it that this one has
been as easy as a bag of rocks to swallow
for the entire organization because of things like this, I
mean all I can share with you because you know
what's going on inside any player's mind in these situations.
I don't know, we know some of the basics. They

(01:27:28):
want every dollar they can get, because that's being a
human beings that you want what you're worth on the market,
and especially in the NFL, you don't waste one second
of time, you don't take one chance before signing that contract,
you know what I mean. Tyreek Hill left Patrick Mahomes

(01:27:50):
why because he wanted top dollar and that's that's where
he could get it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
So, you know, I get the situation he's in.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
I can tell you he has been more emotional than
any other forty nine er in the wake of the loss.
He's been crying at his locker, at exit interviews. He's
been very noncommittal with regard to, you know, being with
the forty nine ers. It was like, do you want
to be here? And he was like, I want to

(01:28:17):
be here if it's the right thing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Oh wow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
And someone was like, so, what's the right thing? And
he goes being a champion, see right right, like so
and and and then he said very little else because
he was like overcome with emotion and where does that
emotion come from. Is it is it because you lost
the Super Bowl? Or is it because you know that
that was it? And and like you're going to be

(01:28:40):
a Panther next year or something. Do you know what
I mean? Like, I don't know. That's the thing. And
here's so you this is my question for you, because
you just said something interesting with the idea of like, oh,
do you take a little less all right system QB
whatever system, coach whatever, whatever. Yeah. Yeah, if you're a

(01:29:01):
wide receiver and you say I want out, I grant
you no team's going to acquire you unless you're willing
to sign the extension. So you do have a little
bit of a say, but be careful, right, be careful
because that thirteen hundred yard receiver can turn into a
seven hundred and fifty yard receiver real fast, easy, Yes,

(01:29:25):
depending on where you end out right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
And that's and that's why. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. So,
like what is he put an emphasis on? Obviously you
want to get the bag. That's what we all want
to do. We do want that. It's sure, it's not
about being you know, greedy, it's not about you know,
any of that stuff, Like you want to get paid
what you're worth. And I think that's even outside of
the NFL, right, if you're in the corporate world, you

(01:29:50):
want to get paid what you're worth. So that's that's that.
I think that's a fair assessment. I think that's fair
to say for any anyone. But again, there is a
you know, he's in that spot where he's about to
get the first one, so he's probably gonna get every
dollar that he can. But you look as you get older,
and you know the time is starting to dwindle in

(01:30:12):
that candle, and that that that wick is starting to
lose fire, and you wish that you got a chance
to win a super Bowl. Those things for me on
the outside looking looking now as it's just a spectator,
you know, you you don't value those things as much
when you're young and you're trying to get that money.
But that stuff matters, man, and so I want that's
why I ask about him.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Yeah, this is it. It is a very difficult situation
because that that roster. Also, you know you're you're looking
at uh again, Yeah, you're looking at party in a
year yeap, and and then what what else is happening
around you? What else do you need to do. Is
Trent Williams going to retire at some point, Christian McCaffrey's
going to turn thirty. Is George Kittle gonna get old? Yeah,

(01:30:56):
Drake Greenlaw needs an extension, except for now he's got
a torn I would argue that this offseason coming up
for the forty nine ers, and maybe one of the
reasons it's so painful. This is the most complicated off
season moment that they've had since arriving.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
This regime. This will be the biggest dance.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
That they have to pull off to try to figure
this out, keep everybody happy, and keep the roster where
it is because they know better than anybody. Look twice,
I would say, at the high profile level, this regime
has gone, Yeah, we got this high priced player.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
I think we're gonna get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Yeah, and we'll trade into the first round of the
draft and replace him there. Once they turned DeForest Buckner
into Javon Kinlaw No, and then they turned Jimmy Garoppolo
into Trey Lance No, and and and they got bailed

(01:32:05):
out because because Kyle Shanahan stood on a table and
screamed about brock Purty with the last pick in the draft.
But outside of that, like this idea trade AUK will
just go get another receiver, right right. That's terrifying, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
And I was going to just bring that up for
you to actually ask you about that, well, like, is
there a trade partner out there where a specific team
that they can get a veteran receiver or somebody that
can you know, you know, get in there and do
something I don't because I don't. I don't know the
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Then you're then you're just paying Then you're paying that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Sure, but you're not gonna be paying them twenty million
a year. I have another guy like that though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
You know, yeah, what if I what if I went
down these names real quick? You tell me for their
current team? Yep? Are they worth it?

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Okay? Tyreek Hill thirty million? Yes, okay. DeVante Adams twenty eight, No,
Cooper Cup twenty six point seven when yeah, I know, yeah,
injuries and yes, injuries and Pooka Nakua and you're like, exactly,

(01:33:18):
go ahead, right all right?

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
A J.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Brown twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Yes, but he's a headache totally.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Yeah, speaking of headaches. Stefan Diggs twenty four No DK
Metcalf twenty four No, Deebo Samuel twenty three point eight. Ye,
yes for what they do, Yes, Terry McLaurin twenty three
point two. Yes for their team, Yes, interesting. DJ Moore

(01:33:53):
twenty point six. No, Keenan Allen twenty point oh two. Yeah,
Mike Williams twenty Oh my god, no no, Amari Cooper
twenty yeah, Chris Godwin twenty No.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Wow, Chris Godwin making twenty eight years ago, Win making
twenty oh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Wow, Mike Evans is going to be a free agent exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Wow, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Mixed bag. It is mixed bag. Out of that top thirteen,
it felt like maybe about five or six times you
said the word yet and if and if the Niners
do this with with Ayuk, they've got two, they would
have two of those top you know, fourteen, if you
want to call it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
That doesn't look good, does it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
I don't know a lot of teams ended up deep
in the playoffs with two twenty plus million dollar receivers,
mainly because only one team is in there twice and
they just fired their coach. So yeah, it's crazy, man,
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All right, coming up next. This is some of the
funniest audio I have heard all week long, and it

(01:35:28):
also begs an immediate and very big question for one
of the big leagues. We'll do that in a moment
with Kerry Rhoads, Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, tyrack dot
Com Studios. I got a question for you, Carrie. Should

(01:35:49):
All Star Game MVP just just go basically to whoever
puts up the most shots? Do they?

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
I don't think they got to win?

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
I don't think you have?

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Like I don't mean like. I don't mean uh that
we should look to the losing team. I just mean
the leading scorer for both teams is the guy who
just is like, got the gall to be out there
on the court with the best in the world and
be like, no, I'm I'm the one shooting right right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
You know what, Like, yeah, Mark, you know what's funny
about that is you with all these great players, right,
they're still a pecan order, right, and you know, like
there's a level of respect. If Lebron's out there and
you wanted to play, he could take over this game, right,
And you can see it back and you can see
it back in the old days, right when MJ was
out there, everybody deferred to MJ. And I that's you

(01:36:51):
pose a great question. It's like who, like who created
the pecan order?

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
All those got too also.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Especially on the eastern side. Right now, Dame Lillard is
the new guy in town. He's been in the West
his whole career, and he's got like twice as many
shots as everybody else. Well, of course he's scored the most.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Well, he's happy to be out the West where he
was struggling. Steph Curry right, exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
But I'm like, you know who cares at the end
of all of it. But Tyrese Haliburton is in his
home arena. Yeah, he's eight of ten from three point range.
I sort of feel like it's incumbent on the guys
to be like, here, you you have the ball, keep shooting.

(01:37:44):
Can you go sixteen of twenty? Can you do it again?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
And Dame is like, nah, got it. Dame's had twice
as many shot attempts as Haliburton.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Yeah, Dame, Dames like, I'm leaving here with something. It's
not shy, He's not shy. No.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
And then Karl Anthony Towns has twenty one shots to
lead all players, and lo and behold there goes another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I don't know how the how the
pecking order works. But Dame Lillard walked into the Bucks
and basically told Giannis, I'll take it from here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Ooh ooh, I love that that that team's in trouble. Yeah,
they are, they are. They need some I don't know.
I think they need like some like some athletic three
three D guys around those guys. But something something's not
something's not right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
I mean, they still have the third best record in
the East, right, you know what I mean? But yes,
they're three and seven in their last ten. The Doc
Rivers thing, it's another example. And I feel like there's
always one or two of these a year, and that
is that you. NBA teams are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
Not built the same way fantasy basketball teams are built.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
They're just not. You have to have continuity, you have
to have pieces that fit, You have to have pieces
that are willing to work together. I know this was
in the off season, but it's one of those things
that I always say. When the trade deadline comes and
everybody like, oh, what are they gonna do? What are
they gonna do, I'm like, don't go crazy over what
your team is going to do, because the championship is

(01:39:25):
not won at the trade deadline. Like, yes, you could
tweak a team that's already in great shade and get
something that helps. But the best example is I know
people will go, well, look at what the Lakers did
last year, right, and you finished fourth, so that yes,
you got some things going, you made some very good moves,

(01:39:48):
but you're not gonna win the championship with the trade
deadline and bringing in Dame Lillard and putting them with Giannis.
I don't know why you wouldn't. But by the same time, yeah,
it's it's more complicated than that. Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
I'll give you two scenarios where one worked and the
other didn't. At the trade deadline, and so you talk
about bringing in, you know, bringing in somebody to elevate
you on the superstar level. That doesn't work. It takes time.
It takes time for that player to get aggreciated into

(01:40:24):
that offense to you're in a new environment, new city,
new support staff. I mean, people don't get that all
those parts are are important, but you and both of
these situations happened in Dallas two thousand and eleven. When
Dallas won a championship. They had a team of all
guys that were around the main guy, Dirk, who just

(01:40:46):
fit that team like a glove. But they made one
pick up on the trade deadline that gave them an
extra shooter that that shooter helped them in the NBA
Finals game to actually win the finals. And I don't
know if you even remember it, but they bought in
a guy that used to be an All Star but
was later in his career at that point, and his
name was Paigestoyakovich. Uh huh, very subtle. Under the radar.

(01:41:10):
He just be like why did they get him? Or
you know, like you know, from the outside looking at
you're like, that's not gonna move the needle, right, It
moved the needle just enough to get them that edge
and they want it. And then you you fast forward
a few years and they bring in you know, they're like,
we're one player away, we got we need a point guard.
We can bring in a guy that has champions championship DNA.

(01:41:32):
He's wanted a guy that can really get us over
the hump and get us to that next level. And
it was a disaster and that was great. No, No,
not even that one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
N Rondo Rondo, Gosh, you got me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
I'm he's talking about last year. They missed the playoffs entirely.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Yeah, but I mean people, yeah, that's true. That's true
as well that I guess you could have went that
one too. But the Rondo one was left a sour
taste in everybody's mouse because it didn't work out at all.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
No, and I mean there's exact samples. I you know,
I was, I was down there covering the Lakers when
uh when when they put the starting five on the
on the cover of Sports Illustrated r I P. But
but they put they put the starting five and and
you know they they kind of called it the four
on the floor when they had Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant,

(01:42:20):
Pau Gasol, Dwout, Dwight Howard, and they made those acquisitions
and it was like, oh my god, it's going to
be like the Olympic team out here. And uh they
got the eight seed Kerrie and and they did not
win a playoff game. They swept by the San Antonio Spurs.
Spurs are the best example of what we're talking about, man, Like,

(01:42:41):
that's a that's a team that has had continuity for
so many years with their stars and uh, and they
were always so so effective. Obviously not anymore. But anyway,
all of that is uh is is really interesting and
the Milwaukee situation is playing out right now before our
eyes with regard to that. All right, we mentioned some

(01:43:03):
of the most interesting audio we've heard all week. We'll
have it for you in three minutes. But right now,
Steve Desager's turn to get in here and get us
all the latest. Hello, Steve, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
There might be thirty points scored in the next three minutes.
So let me tell you just at the moment NBA
All Star Game was still almost seven minutes left in it.
Tonight has the East leading one seventy nine to one
fifty three over the West, and apparently most points by
one side in an NBA All Star game is one
ninety six, so keeping that in mind, there have been

(01:43:33):
some exchanges online. One NBA writer retweeted somebody's semi serious
idea that maybe the NFL should have the Pro Bowl
players play a basketball game and the NBA should have
its All stars play flag football.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Oh that's pretty fun, that be ferfect.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:43:49):
Another reporter said it's funny we spent so much time
on the All Star starters and who made it as
a sub and who got snubbed, and then the game
always stinks, to which another writer said, it turns out
the players committed the biggest snub of all. They snubbed
the basketball fans who actually want a reasonable facsimile of
a basketball game. Tonight, we can update that it's now

(01:44:10):
one eighty three one p fifty eight East with six
minutes to go. One foul has been called on the
Eastern Conference tonight. They've attempted all of four free throws,
but from three point range they are thirty seven of
eighty eighty three point attempts by one side and still
six minutes left in the exhibition. The NBA season resumes

(01:44:34):
on Thursday night with twelve games, Let's move on the
Daytona five hundred was postponed to tomorrow at four pm
Eastern time on Fox TV. It rained all weekend there.
The Xfinity Series opener will be held Monday morning, eleven
am Eastern time on FS one. Upsetting college hoops at
Ohio State, the Buckeyes, with an interim coach making his debut,
Jake Diebler, beat number two rank produced seventy three sixty

(01:44:57):
nine South Florida over twenty fourth ran Florida Atlantic ninety
to eighty six South Florida twelve and one. In the
American Conference, Minnesota beat Rutgers, Northwestern won a close one
at Indiana, Seaton Hall came back to win at Saint John's,
and Utah won at UCLA seventy to sixty nine on
a last second putback. In the NHL just three games,

(01:45:18):
including the outdoor game today at New Jersey, the Rangers
came back to win in overtime against the Islanders six
to five. LA won two to one at Pittsburgh, Colorado
at home, a four to three winner against Arizona, finally
to golf Hideki Matsuyama won the PGA event in La
by three strokes after a final round sixty two. Matsuyama
earned four million dollars. The two runners up each got

(01:45:42):
one point eight mil Xanderschoffley missed a late six foot
putt and fell to fourth place. So that's a mere
eight hundred and sixty thousand or so, a very expensive miss.
Patrick Cantley, speaking of expensive, led by five strokes after Friday,
led by two after Saturday, he fell to a tie
for force. So Matsuyama comes from six strokes down today

(01:46:04):
to win. It is his ninth win on the PGA
Tour career, a record for an Asian born player, his
first victory in two years. For those who are unaware,
Tiger Woods with drew Friday due to illness. He was
host of this tournament. He shot a one over seventy
two in the first round, tying for forty ninth place.
He'd had back problems this week again. Also, Woods was
making his first start in an official PGA Tour event

(01:46:26):
since he withdrew from the Masters ten months ago and
had ankle surgery.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Back to you, Steve Luca just banked in a three
and your flag football idea kind of stuck with I'd
like to see him play anything after this performance tonight.
I could watch this guy do just about anything. It's
hysterical goodness. Luca's got a in a one eighty eight

(01:46:53):
to one sixty six game, Luca has put up seven and.

Speaker 7 (01:46:58):
He's a minus thirteen on the court.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
He's really hurting his plus minus right now.

Speaker 7 (01:47:06):
I mean, my god, Yeah, I had their value for
the team. Steph Curry's a minus twenty three. Oh in court,
let's not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Be good dragging them down. Yeah, yeah, crazy? All right,
thanks Steve, appreciate that. All right, let's uh, we've been
we've been bouncing around with this, so let's get to this.
Check this out. This is interesting. And you know, I
hate relocation in sports. I think it's just an odd deal.
I really do. I don't think sports teams should or
can be treated like other businesses. So it's not just

(01:47:36):
a matter of well, like, hey, this is a real
estate deal, and my uh, you know, my my team
needs land and and and they're leveraged and all of that.
And I think it's just terrible because it's a different
kind of business than if you're running a home depot
or something like that. Like nobody's outside home depot like
go depot, go like nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
We're just I need a screwdriver.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
That's it. I'm leaving. We're not emotionally invested, so totally different.
And that leads me to the Oakland A's. Now, will
they end up in Vegas? Will they come back? Will
they end up being a minor league team in Canada?
I have no idea, and most of us have reached
a point of indifference because their ownership is so absurd

(01:48:25):
and so ridiculous that no one even knows what to
do with it anymore. Apparently Carrie, including baseball's top reporters
Jeff Passing, goes on PTI on ESPN and Tony Corneiser
asks him about the A's. Just listen to this response.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
There are doubts everywhere about the A's because here's the
one thing that they have proven themselves adept at being
completely incompetent.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
You know, I was talking with somebody yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:48:58):
I'm doing a story expansion, and you know, the A's
came up because the A's need to be in place
in Las Vegas in order for MLB to expand two
more teams, which is looking like it's going to be
twenty thirty or so.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
But you know, this person who's.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Been dealing with the a's is like the do they
know what they're doing? Like is this a joke?

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
The whole process has been messed up from the start,
you know, dating back twenty years to them trying to
get a stadium in Oakland failing to do so, and
now they're going to go to Vaas and all of
a sudden it's going to be smooth sailing in a
city that really hasn't shown a lot of desire to
have you. The entire thing from the beginning, Tony has
been a disaster, and if this thing fell apart, it

(01:49:43):
would surprise absolutely nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
Why on Earth our sports leagues run the way they are,
to the point where when someone owns a team, oversight
just gets thrown out the window. These are all all
called franchises. If I bought a Subway sandwich shop here
in my town and I decided I'm gonna put all

(01:50:08):
the letters out in front of the store shop upside
down so that you can't read it, I'm gonna put
the y.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
First Subway would come in and shut me down.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
I like, if you're a racist idiot, Adam Silver will
come take your team, and you don't. You don't get
to keep it anymore. I don't understand why this bleep
show of an organization continues to be allowed to run

(01:50:40):
itself the way it does, Carrie, Nobody knows what the
hell's going on, starting with them.

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
No, it's funny. I actually made a joke about them.
I said that I had a park in Studio City
that I could play home games at with the cheerleaders
there as well. Uh it's it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
You have the same attendance that they had last year,
and we.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Might have more, we might have more mark it's it's
it's a nice location. No, but uh, I don't know,
to be honest, though, Yeah, it's it's really bad. And
you know, you think about the Oakland A's and you
you know the history that they have at the organization
before the current ownership. It's it just it it sucks,

(01:51:28):
and it's it's hurting. It's it's obviously hurting the game,
and it's hurting the MLB as well, because it's leaving
us our stain just just for the organization, and I
mean period, right, So that part is like how can
you allow it? The question I mean the comment you
made about how can you allow it? Yeah, I think

(01:51:51):
somebody literally has to step in and, you know, have
a sit down with them and see what what the
heck is going on and give some context of why
this thing it's so just just utter chaos because I
don't know either, and it's it's actually crazy to see, well.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
In an uncapped league where you know there's an incredibly
i don't know, not just a network and a history
that that goes the way it goes, like you'd never
see something like this in the in the NFL. You
you just wouldn't. But like, it's it's totally beyond me

(01:52:30):
why a multi multi billion dollar parent organization would allow
one of its franchises to be operated this way. I mean,
forget simple stuff like if you're going to have salary caps,
and if you're going to have luxury tax penalties, then
you also need a salary floor. You've you've got to

(01:52:54):
have these teams spending at least a certain amount of
money to be a viable team, or or change their
name to the Washington Generals because that's who they are.
They're just here. So the Yankees and Red Sox have
somebody to play. I mean, honestly, it's it. I know
most people listening to us, and even I I I

(01:53:16):
don't know all the ins and outs of where this
story has been ye, but it is. It is one
of the greatest abuses of power and one of the
most mismanaged sports organizations I've ever seen in my entire life.
And it just shows no sign of stopping anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
And how did it get so bad, so so so fast.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
His name is John Fisher. His name is John Fisher. Yeah, yeah,
it's wild. All right, We're gonna uh, we'll get some
final thoughts on all this. Kerry Rhads, Mark Wheart, Fox
Sports Radio, tyrec dot Com Studios. I don't even know

(01:54:05):
what we just watched. What did we just watch? It's
a final. The West scores one hundred and eighty six
points and uh and still loses by twenty five. Hey

(01:54:29):
two eleven to one eight six. Karl Anthony Towns with
fifty off the bench. That's a new phrase. Fifty off
the bench. Bench, yep, yep. Dame Lillard with thirty nine
to uh pace the East. Jalen Brown thirty six off

(01:54:55):
the bench. You gotta give it to Haliburton, though, don't you.
I'm watching this right now. Is Halliburton going to get
the MVP?

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
What did he have?

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
I didn't hear Haliburton.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
You get thirty two, but ten of fourteen from three
point range?

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Oh yeah, he should get it. They won these one
and yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
They won, and it's it's in Indiana. I see Lillard
standing right behind out him silver. Don't do it, dame,
and they're looking at all of them. I don't know.
You got to give it to Halliburton, don't you would?

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
I would think? So, Yeah, they won the game. He
got thirty thirty two and shot hit ten threes and
he's at home. Yeah, give it to him.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
I think the guys were trying to get it for
him as well down the stretch there.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
So this is getting too predictable for me, which is
just the sort of social media response is going to
be to rip this thing for a lack of competitiveness.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
Yeah, and I'm like, when when was the last time
this was competitive?

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
You know what I mean? Like, don't don't don't show
up to the party with alcohol and then get surprised
when the cops come right right, right, right right? We
know what this is we know what this is. And
and like I said, for everybody who's going to go
to their social media channels tonight and be like, oh,
it's so stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
I can tell you'd hate it. If they tried, right,
you'd hate it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
And and and the first time someone twisted an ankle,
you'd you'd be like, what the heck are we doing
out there?

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Exactly your hundred percent correct mark. It's it's again. It's
just people powling on something that's already seemingly becoming a problem.
You know, once once the once you start steam rolling
down the hill, and that that that stone starts to
pick up a little momentum, people like to jump. People
like to jump on board with it and just pole

(01:56:56):
on instead of trying to be the uh awful up
some type of way to make it better if you want.
But you know, you can do that or you can complain.
And what side do Most people fall on the complaining part.
It looks like Dame Littlett won the MVP, though as
we as we're speaking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
He sure did. Man, I'm pretty upset at Dave Lillard
right now. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not
gonna lie to you at all. They had the exact
same number of minutes pretty much twenty seven to twenty
six as Tyrese Halliburton. But he shot the ball eleven
more times, and I get, like, I get why they
gave it. He hit two half court shots, yep. He

(01:57:36):
makes half court shots look like they're just set three pointers.
It's super intense. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
It is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
So that's a whole lot of fun. But I don't know, man,
that's an odd thing to do. Like the guys in
his home arena, right, he looks actually upset about it too.
They show like a throwaway shot of Haliburton. I think
he wanted it. Well, here's here's what's really here's what's
really ridiculous about it. Halliburton hits a bunch of late

(01:58:04):
threes and he gets to his thirty two points and
Dames got thirty three.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
The one point apart, oh, one point apart.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Wait a minute to go in the game mark and
then Dame's like, you get here, and they show I'm
gonna shoot two.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
More threes and one of them is gonna be from
half court to steal your MVP award in your building.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
Right, And that was a shot of Halliburton at the end.
I didn't I didn't know why he was doing it,
but he was trying to get the ball from Jokis
at the end. I think he's trying to get another
shot up well, and jo Kich might have.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
Given it to him. I would like to give the
award to Nicola Jokich because he's got the right level
of h Do you know what I'm saying when I
say idg AF, Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
Yeah, Yeah, he's got the right level of that out there.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
He's just bopping along like why are you all?

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Who cares?

Speaker 8 (01:59:01):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
He just he looks like he's bothered that he needs
to run.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
It looked like it hurts for him to run. It does,
and he's gonna give you and he's going to give
you thirty five and sixteen when it counts.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
How is that guy the MVP? It totally looks like
he's in pain.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
It does the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Oh god. Yeah, So he's kind of striking the court
for me. I'm like, look, yo, Kitchen and I have
the same level of interest in this game. Yeah, So
I'm like, yeah, let's go. I'm into NICOLEA. Jokicch, But
but I'm down on Dame Lillard. Man, he stole the
MVP from the hometown kid. That's Lames.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
That's another loss for Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Seriously cowly anyway, Bud, that's a ton of fun. Great,
great having you, great being with you tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Always Mark. I appreciate you, man, I love what you
do and I'm always here man.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Love it man.

Speaker 3 (01:59:58):
I know we're gonna do it much more coming up.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
So uh, great stuff tonight, the All Star Game again,
two eleven to one eighty six. Here come Plank and Spaniard.
Can't wait to hand them baton four. Kerry Rhoads, I'm
Mark Willard and it's Fox Sports Radio.

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