Martin Weiss & Ephraim Salaam React to the Luka Doncic Extension, Micah Parsons Trade Request & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Martin Wise joined here with e from Salaam and Mark
Willard's normal seat. Appreciate Mark letting me fill in here
on this Sunday evening. Ephram, how are you doing that?
I'm fantastic brother. How you doing doing well? Doing well?
Glad to be here, August. There are a ton of
stuff do to people, and you know what's going on
in your life. It's no secret. There's no secret. I'm

(00:27):
getting married. By this time next week, I will be married.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
He'd be a kept man. Ladies, this is over. He's
off the market. It'll be I've listened off the market.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'll put it, Ladies, I've been an escrow for quite
some time, then if I if I'm just now going
off the mark getting them papers, I've been an escrow.
We've been going back and forth between the realtor and
the buyer for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Closing cost is too high, right, there's.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Been several levels of negotiations, the problem with the bank's
interest rates.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
No things are It's an exciting time.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
It's a beautif man is love is needed and love
is appreciated.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Man. So if you can find somebody to spend your
life with. Then I'm all for it.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Do you know the other thing I'm very excited about
that you'll relate to, and I imagine those who are
married will relate to and those who are not.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
What is he even talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I am so very excited to not have to debate
or discuss or think about or listen to hear about,
like where is this person gonna sit? Should we get
this tabled? That table number chicken or fish? Yes, Like
I don't care anymore. I don't care anymore. Even I

(01:40):
don't care, I don't have to make a difference to me.
When I was thinking about how I wanted to do this,
you know what I'm saying. When I was like, I
want to get married, Let's spend the rest of my
life with this woman, I never once debated or thought
about whether or not I want to order seventy five
chicken meals or sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah that is ah, brother, you're not You're not in
that sentiment. But I say it like this. You know,
I don't know any little boys who grew up and
fantasized about their wedding. Sure, but you know I do
know your young ladies who grew ups, and they wanted

(02:19):
the special wedding, and they wanted it this way and
that way. So you carry those things over when you
get to be an adult, and it may not go
exactly like you envisioned it when you were younger, but it.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Is a special day.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I literally handed the keys over to my wife and said,
whatever it is you want to do, go ahead, because
I know how much it meant to her. I know
she wanted a perfect day, and so I did what
I could to help facilitate that.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
And so you know, you're right after Saturday.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
You don't have to worry about a seating chart chart
or the fishing or chicken option or the DJ or
the cake man.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Are you know any of that?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Auntie Darryl, I mean Uncle Darryl can't come anymore.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Auntie Wanda's late? Oh you know? Oh I woke up
from an app today.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
My god, Where are you guys getting? Where are you local?
Are you going destination with other team?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Full?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
So just far enough to not be able to stay
at my own? Are you guys going right into the honeymoon?
Are you taking your waiting first? I mean a couple
of days, couple days, a couple of days, so you
already got it picked out and all of that. Oh yeah,
it's all listen booked and mostly paid for booked and

(03:36):
mostly paid for it in terms of all of that.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
So yeah, so it's it's a beautiful thing, man, it's
enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I am looking forward to Look, technically, you're only supposed
to do this once.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's kind so enjoy it why as much as you.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Can because it's supposedly not supposed to happen again, right,
And so I've only had one wedding and that's the
only wedding I'm going to have twenty two years in
so and enjoy it for what it is. Sometimes I
think back we watched the old video. It takes you
back to a place of of of.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Promise and excitement. So just chaerish it and relationship.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
For what it is.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I mean, no, I'm definitely looking forward to it. I'm
also just definitely looking forward to it to be over,
to not having to talk about it. Guy, like I'm
looking forward to remembering it.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yes, there you go. That's a good way to put it. Look,
that's a good way to put him.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Bring it and you know, much like I'm about to
get married, you've been married for twenty two years, the
Los Angeles Lakers and Luton Doncics. They signed up on
that legal document that same way. We together now for.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Three years, one hundred and sixty five.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Million dollars and Rob Polinka, you know, I'm a fellow
in Michigan, alum, and I have a soft spot a
little bit for Lincoln sometimes, especially just.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
When I hear him that sometimes what he wears, like yo,
what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (05:04):
But uh, he is he could be an author in
a different life. My man is not one to embellishment,
flourish howeveryone.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Is phrased it. He's good with his words.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And this is what he had to say as he
entered in to the press conference to welcome Luka Doncic.
Not welcome him, obviously, but you know, announced this, celebrate
this contract signing.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
The Los Angeles Lakers chose Luka Doncic through a trade
where he came to our franchise. Today, Luka Doncic chose
the Los Angeles Lakers, and that is a monumental moment
in Lakers history. And we could be not more We

(05:51):
could not be more grateful for you choosing this partnership.
The best young basketball player in the universe for the
long term future, the best sports franchise on the globe.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You gotta love that. A monumental day in Lakers history.
Eat from Salam the best young player in the universe.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Okay, I mean, like Hyperbolics said, look, find somebody who
loves you, like Rob Polinka loves Luka Danta yesterday as
they signed up for that deal.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Now, I know you died in a big time Lakers face.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I am when you saw that news yesterday and you
saw this press conference, and you saw the smile on
Luka Donci's just face a man. Look, Men's health GQS
coming up next, all right, buddy, with that smile and
that suit he had on in that press conference, what
were your first thoughts?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I was excited because you know when a player, when
you receive a player in the trade, you never know
what their intentions are, especially if they didn't ask for
the trade or want to be here. It was such
a big shock to Luca, to the NBA world, to
everyone Laker fans alike that that trade happened. Now there

(07:02):
was uncertainty of will Luca signed the extension, does he
want to go somewhere else? So just waking up to
the news that he decided to not wait till next
offseason and signed a long, a longer deal. He opted
into the to the franchise. Now, to me, that was amazing.

(07:23):
I love that as a Laker fan, we know the
piece we're building around. This is ushering in the post
Lebron James era, even though they got one more shot
to see what they can do together. But at least
we know the direction we're going in the future for
as you know, as a franchise, which is always up

(07:44):
in the air when you lose an all time great
or an all time great retires or moves on.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
The plan is key, right, like will it work? Who knows? Right?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
No one can know the future Dallas eighteen months ago,
nobody would have thought that this was ever been the case.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Right. If you're in Dallas right now, you're like, wait
a minute, like, my ex looks good. You know what
I'm saying. So you can't tell what the future holes.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
But I think when you look at the first five
years of Lucas career, you see a guy who you
would I'm a betting man, I would bet he'll be
back in the finals.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I would I would.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Bet that he he is a type of guy that
turned your team from average to contending. He's the type
of guy turned your team from terrible to above average,
you know, maybe contented, because that's what the Mavericks were
before they made those trades. Remember the Mavericks traded for
Kyrie Irving and then ended up taking got Derek Lively
and we're like a five hundred team before making those

(08:42):
trades with Washington and Charlotte and getting Daniel Gafford and PJ. Washington,
two guys who were just in NBA Siberia essentially who
and then got all the way to the finals.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Right, So you saw it like that.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
We have proof of concept with Luka doncis here and
now according to men's health from he.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Started to work out.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Look, I know Luca worked out before, but he.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Didn't work out like this.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
As you mature, as expectations rise, then there are different
levels to working out. Now you can work out to
get in shape and be comfortable and come into the
season and be like, I'll really play myself into the
shape I need, or you can go all in something
Lebron has done, something the greats have done. Kobe did it,

(09:36):
Jordan did it, all of the great Kevin Garnett did it.
They come in to the season ready to go because
they want to use that period where everybody's trying to
get themselves in shape. They want to separate themselves and
Luca working out the way he's working out now, new body,

(09:56):
new mentality, new contract. It bowls well for Lakers and
Laker fans alike, because the big knock on him was
he's talented, but you know, is he taking it serious
enough to keep his body healthy? Can he survive a
full season? Or him just coming into training camp and

(10:16):
it's still good training camp still a couple months away,
but him coming into training camp already in shape allows
him to not only you know, start you know, ten
yards ahead of where he normally would start. But it's
a good message for all those guys in the locker room.

(10:38):
It's a message to Lebron James like he's gonna have
a real life running mate who's in it to accomplish
something this year. This isn't a we'll wait and see,
this is I'm in shape. I'm going to be playing
at the highest I've played in and if he if
he can do that, I mean, he's was twenty eight
points a game, last year twenty eight, seven and eight,

(10:59):
I leave. If we can get a Luca who shows
up ready like that, the Lakers will.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Be tough out. It'll be a tough out.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
The thing that I find to be fascinating, and it's
one of the things I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Not to say. If it's worth saying out loud, I'm
definitely about to.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
But like, if it's worth as a thought exercise, happening,
Luka Doncics gets traded, right, and then Nico Harrison and
the Mavericks go on, I'll turn it like a smear
campaign spin cycle, right, But like, the reality was, the

(11:39):
trade was so the get back for the trade, see,
was so lopsided that everybody nobody stopped to think whether
or not the trade itself was a good idea. It
was how to use trade Luka Dancics for Anthony Davis
and Max Christy without every nobody stopped to stop at
Dante's in that sentence, right, Because if you just had

(12:03):
as a thought exercise, right, like, all right, let's rank
the most tradeable players in the NBA, the least tradeable
Luca Doncas would have been definitely on the least tradable side.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh, yes, but I think if you had said.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I'll trade you six first round our five first round
picks and two All Stars for Luka Doncis, right, I
do like hypothetically.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Right, Just yeah, that that may you know, that may
move the needle a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
It just just.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Work with me here, Like, it is not the craziest
thing in the world, because we see guys most of
the time demand trade, right Anthony Davis, for example, when
he was traded from the Pelicans to the Lakers, that
was what I forget the exact hall. It was like
three starters, several picks like Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart and
h into Toronto now Lights and Braids Brandon.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Right, the three stars, three starters, a bunch of picks.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, So let's just say up the anti a bit
because Anthony Davis and Luka Doncis, Luka Doncis I was
better at this point in his career.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Oh, I mean, it's the all NBA players. So you
got to realize the last five years Luka Doncics was
all NBA. You don't first team, right, Okay, So that's
one of the best five players in all of the league.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
The better example than is this Jason Tatum had no
obviously not as many all nbas as Luca did early
in his career, but there was a.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Hey should we break these guys up? Hey? Should we?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
So trading a guy of this stature, on its face,
isn't that crazy? And I think that if the Luke,
if the Mavericks had never traded Luka Doncic, does he
ever go on this whole revenge toward men's health.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Guess what? I bought kettlebells this offseason? And so do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Like it's the sliding door's moment of like if I'm
the Mavericks and I could offer him the super five
year Supermax, It's like I don't want to do that,
and now the Lakers end up getting like motivated, I'm
ready to kick check out my sick fact. I don't
mean the beer Luka Donci. I say this all the time.
One man's trash is another man's treasure. That's just crazy

(14:09):
because I feel like Dallas, if you could hold Nico
Harrison up to a light detective test, like you would
never say it now because like Slim Charles said in
the wire, if it's a lie, we have to fight
on that lie. And he will fight on that line
now for the rest of his NBA general managing career.
But I think if you really asked to me, be
like man, I wish I could get Luca to have
done just that.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Oh I'm sure they would have wanted a motivated Luca.
But you know, Luca came into the league good. He
came to the league chunky and good and moving at
his own pace.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So that's all he knew. When you come out of
that bubble of Dallas and you get to a brand
like the Lakers, that light is hot, man, right, That
spotlight is hot every night.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
That spotlight is hot. And he hadn't experienced that before,
and so being here and being a part of that
and understanding what that means, but also understanding the responsibility
of being the face of a franchise like the Lakers. Yeah,
that'll motivate you. That'll get you going. It'll get you going,
or to get you going. Absolutely, And we'll talk to

(15:15):
somebody who is in the room. As Rob Polenka waxed
poetic about his new three year, one hundred and sixty
five million dollars super Max superhero Luca Donciz, we'll get
the Boots on the Ground perspective. Coming up next, Martin
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Martin Weiss you from Salom coming to you live from the.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Fox Sports Radio studios on a Foxsports Sunday Smiles. Everyone
were in Lakerland, Yes, especially here for Ephram Salaam.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Who you know? What you know?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Mary, Ephraim is really he's really I have to I
appreciate the struggle he's going through right now dealing with me.
But I have noticed about every ten minutes, we've only
been doing the show for twenty four it gets darker
and darker in this room.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
What you're talking about. I notice that.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I'm just like all I've noticed it gets darker and
darker in here. And an Ephraim, if you're not, if
you don't know, likes to do the show in complete
and total darkness, vampire stuff.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
I give it fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
You're going to no.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Look, he has this whole portion of the grid on.
It's shining on him. But you know, I like to
have a little mood in here. I'm normally in the
studio by myself. Mark is remote always, and so I
you know, I have my little.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
Tripping when I've seen it get darker too.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
What what you're talking about, because I had my head
down this entire time.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, but this I don't need the spotlight just into
my eyeball. When he says the spotlight, he means the
light that is overhead attached to the ceiler, otherwise known
as lights.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Speaking of spotlights, let's have a star.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Step up to the stage, Mark Medina, Mark, how are
you doing today, my friend?

Speaker 11 (18:19):
I'm doing well. I think you've mistaken me for Luca Dodgers.
That's the star of this weekend.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I mean well, he's definitely getting paid like it three years,
one hundred and sixty five million dollars. Rob Polinka said,
and I'm not being hyperbolic.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
He said, this is a monu mental moment.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
In Lakers history, and also that the best young player
in universe came and joined the Lakers. Were you there
yesterday as the pomping circumstance was all going through. It
feels like it was just a lot of pats on
the backs and high fives.

Speaker 11 (18:53):
Yeah. Full disclosure. I wasn't there only because I was
doing CBSLA studio duties, but I watched the press conference.
The things that you mentioned I really picked up on
as well. I thought it was also notable that rap
Palinka expressed gratitude to have Luka Doncic with the Lakers,
and that Luca was all about trying to win championships,

(19:13):
and that he expressed optimism that they can win a
championship next season. I think the other thing is that's
of notice who was in attendance. It was almost like
every single teammate of Luka Doncic's was there except for
Lebron James and to a lesser extent, Austin Reeves. So
I thought all those things were very interesting.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Unpacked, I did see by either You're right, it was
all in.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
The James family. It was a huge protest maybe.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Their own maybe their own vacation, but as.

Speaker 11 (19:50):
Well they I know that they were on vacation, but
we then saw Lebron get back to La train at
a practice facility, but at the Clippers, not the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
What stay owned by the way now, so just throw
that out there. Clutch Sports owns that facility now that
the Clippers have moved on.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
They just haven't paided.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
If Lebron goes to the Clippers, then he gets what
he gets, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
But back to the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
For the layman fan out there, could you explain just
what this means to the franchise in terms of the
future and moving forward, because I know there were some
questions about will he sign the long term deal, will
he wait till the offseason?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is sign a bigger deal? With him getting that done?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Now, what that signifies for Luca and the Lakers moving forward?

Speaker 11 (20:38):
Well, I think there's two things. I mean, I think
the money part he was going to get paid regardless,
but if he waited a year, he could have gotten
paid more. But he's getting three years, one hundred and
sixty five million. That sets him up to get a
five year extension over three hundred and sixty million and
twenty twenty eight so Luca's going to get paid. I
think the bigger thing what it means for Laker fans

(20:59):
is there's no one uncertainty on whether he's here for
the long term. You know, he had one more year
left on his contract, but in today's NBA, when some
players don't sign an extension as soon as they're eligible,
all of a sudden, you think, okay, does this mean
he wants that? Does he not have any trust in
the front office? Should there be a deal before the
trade deadline? None of that stuff's going to happen. I

(21:21):
think the other thing that also signifies is he has
a lot of trusts in the Lakers' front office, as
well as how they assembled the roster. Now, Luca Doncics
was partially responsible for this, recruiting players like DeAndre and
Marcus Smart, and I think it also showed that, you know,
Luca is in it to win it. He has optimism

(21:43):
about winning a championship. So did the Lakers. So I
don't put them as championship favorites because that title belongs
to the defending champions, like the Oklahoma City Thunder. And
you know, I think Houston and Denver are more likely
to challenge the Thunder, but the Lakers are right in
that mix. And so you know, even though there's clearly
some divide on how Luca Doncis is doing things versus

(22:07):
Lebron James. I think the Lakers want to win a championship.
It's just a matter of how do they balance that
with their long term prospects. I think given all the circumstances,
this is, you know, as best of a roster as
they could have assembled leaven the next season.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Now, just six months ago, yesterday, Luka Doncis was traded
to LA. Obviously, yesterday signs that massive extension. Talk about
this what happened, And I'll put it like this, six
months ago yesterday when it did an intro press conference,
Luca looked like he was miserable. He looked destraught, looked

(22:43):
very unhappy. Right, I'm not saying he was unhappy to
be in LA. He just looked like despondent. In general,
he didn't look very happy, and I think it had
a lot to do with the shakra be traded and
so on.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
You look at the.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
One this year, I mean yesterday, it looks like when
they would have the president going in first term and
then after four years later, but the opposite, like he's
you know, he looks like LA has done great for him,
and you hear the reports of him recruiting Marcus Smart
through text message and so on. At what point did

(23:17):
it turn from oh my god, I can't believe it
just got traded to all right, this is home now
I'm going to lock in because there was a It
seems to me there's a clear point of turn.

Speaker 11 (23:28):
Yeah, Luca Daccaa said it was basically the first game
he got, you know, a huge warm reception from the Lakers.
I think that you hit on the head that his
first intro press conference, he looked shell shocked, But I think,
in fairness being there had nothing to do with any
misgivings with the Lakers. He's just trying to get over
the fact that this team that guide to the guided
to the NBA Finals the season before, and was on

(23:50):
the verge of being a franchise player, all of a
sudden traded me and then on my way out poop
pood my conditioning and said, you know, it wasn't worth
the investments. I think that's what he was trying to
get over. Even in real time as he was processing that,
he gushed about the Lakers historical excellence, talked about you know,
Kobe Bryant and all the different luminaries wanting to win championships.

(24:10):
But I think really that first game back he started
embracing being a Laker because of the fan reception. While
there are questions about he and Lebron with, you know,
just the future, I think from a chemistry standpoint, it
was pretty seamless, and so that point on it was
then just about fine tuning things, most notably with his body.

(24:30):
But yesterday he looked stronger, he looked leaner, he looked
a lot happier. And I think this is what's scary. Guys.
He's already made I think six all NBA teams. He
guided Mavericks to the NBA Finals. He's just scratched in
the surface here. I mean, he's already been Top five,
He's an MVP candidate. He's going to just continue to

(24:51):
get better and better and better. And we have to
keep in mind he's still in the prime of his career.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Let me ask you this, and this is a big hypothetical,
but let's just say the Lakers put this thing together,
uh and Lebron James last year with the Lakers, they
make it to the finals, and they win the NBA
championship next year, which I would be elated. I mean
that would that would I almost would give up half

(25:17):
of one of my kids.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
For the just put this on records.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
And you know, and Martin gets to have the half
that I'm giving up. Hey, he and Luka Dancic was
the Finals MVP. What would that do to Lebron's legacy?

Speaker 11 (25:40):
Yeah, it would be fascinating because part of me wonders,
does this think Lebron wants to leave right out on top?
He's made it clear that he's not going to continue
to prolong his career just for the sake of it.
He has to be an all SAR caliber level. And
if he's not Gay's Finals MVP, that's kind of a
signal that you know, this is the best time to leave.

(26:01):
But if he wins a championship, I can't help. But
wonder does he think, you know what, I'll sign at
a relative discount comeback just so I can add the
championship rings. I think, you know, if he doesn't win
finals MVP, it's obvious ammunition for people that you know,
obviously choose Michael Jordanova, Lebron James and the you know,

(26:23):
the discussion is on who is the goat, But it
also helps if he wins a championship, he adapts and
shows that he doesn't worry about whether he's the number
one or number two options. So I think it almost
kind of evens itself out. And then the next question
is does this mean it's his last season? And that's

(26:45):
what makes it very complicated because when you compare with
Kobe Bryant, I know, covering him in his final years,
it almost became easier for him to know when it
was his final year because the team wasn't good. He
was having the worst year of his career. He's dealing
with so many injuries that you know, a month into
the season, he knew, you know what this is going
to be. It that's uff the farewell tour, which is

(27:07):
something that he originally didn't think. Here much different context
because the Lakers have an outside chance to win a
title at least be a playoff contender, and Lebron's playing
all star caliber level, so it's going to be very
fascinating to watch and very unpredictable.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Mark last one. For me, that's kind of the thing
that I question.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
There's obviously the Ridge Paul statement, and then Polinka in
the Luca you know parade yesterday going. You know, if
Lebron James chooses to retire a Laker, it was very
if and maybe and not very much. Oh, he'll be
here for sure. Lock it up. Sounds like Renten not buying.
And that's the thing I don't get. Lebron is playing

(27:48):
at an all star level right now. I think you'd
be hard pressed to find. Now, maybe the contract number
is one that you would debate, but you'd be hard
pressed to find ten fifteen better players to put us
alongside of Luka Donci. It's just from a basketball fit
and at forty years old, Yeah, he doesn't play the

(28:08):
same way he did when he was twenty.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Seven, but he's still in a lot better than a
lot of twenty seven year olds. Yeah, what's the deal? Like,
why is this?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Why does it feel like this is a little bit
more than just your average.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Lebron passive aggressiveness this offseason?

Speaker 11 (28:23):
Well, I think it's because the nature of Lebron's relationship
with the Lakers, ever since the beginning, has felt more
transactional to anything else. I think the other thing is,
even though Lebron James is a way to play with
Luka Doncic because of where he's at in his career.
The Lakers clearly pivoted that they're making moves in mind
more for what's best for him than what's best for Lebron.

(28:45):
But it doesn't have to be an either or Both
Luca and Lebron want to win a championship next season,
and so they technically both sides have all this upcoming
season to find clarity to those answers. You know, I
think you hit a really good point that even at
his age level, it's hard to find a lot of

(29:05):
players that are better than him. I mean, I would
still say he's top ten in the league, at least
top fifteen, but given where he's at his age, he's
going to be. He's forty now, he's going to be
forty one December thirtieth. Things can change very quickly. There's
tough with father time, So I think by the time
June hits, April hits, maybe even before that, it's going

(29:28):
to be very clear how well Lebron's playing in the
now and what it could be in the future.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I get father Time, But Lebron James at this point,
I'm going to he got to show me he can't
play anymore. Mark Medena, we know you still got a
lot of time left in you. So appreciate you coming
on and giving us that insight on the Lakers and everything. Lebron, James,
Luca doncis my friend.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Thanks man.

Speaker 11 (29:51):
I appreciate you guys as always.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Absolute doubt coming up.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
In just a moment, we'll go inside NFL training camp.
You have a few different conversations hold ends, injuries during camp.
We got somebody uniquely qualified to discuss.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
All of that. Spoiler, it's not me.

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(30:30):
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Speaker 12 (30:31):
Hello, gentlemen, it's looking like a hold in in Buffalo
with their star running back James Cook. He sat out practice.
He wants a contract extension. That part's no secret. As
for not participating. He was asked about it, he said,
it was just business, very curt very short business. That's
the sentence. Buffalo wide receiver Khalil Shakire week to week
with a high ankle sprain. Eagles wide receiver AJ Brown

(30:53):
miss practice with a hamstring injury. The forty nine ers
signed veteran wide receiver Robbie Chosen. Most teams start the
exhibition schedule this week. Among the five WNBA games, New
York a winner at Connecticut eighty seven, seventy eight, Connecticut
five and twenty two. And there was the report yesterday
that they'll be sold for three hundred twenty five million
and in a couple of years moved to Boston. The

(31:15):
Boston Red Sox have won their fifth straight game today.
It was a six to one final over Houston, the
first place team in the AL West. Houston just two
and a half games over the Mariners. Seattle was a
five to four winner against Texas. Another save for Andres
Munoz is twenty fifth. The Mariners closer, has an ERA
of one point twenty six this year. Miami won its
fifth straight games, seven to three over the Yankees, who

(31:37):
were the third place team in the AL East. First
place Toronto was beaten in ten innings at home by
Kansas City. Seven to four wins for Pittsburgh and Arizona.
The Angels were down five nothing in the six but
won eight to five against the White Sox on a
three run homer bottom of the ninth by Taylor Ward.
The Cubs were winners at home on a two run
homer bottom of the ninth from Justin Turner five to

(31:58):
three against Baltimore. The cub still two games back of
the first place Brewers in the NL. Central Milwaukee won
fourteen to three at Washington, The Dodgers and Padres each one.
In fact, the Dodger winner was Yoshinobu Yamamoto, having a
great season. The ra two point five to one LA
three nothing winners at Tampa Bay. The Dodgers still three
games up on San Diego, which was a seven to

(32:19):
three winner against Saint Louis, San Francisco a twelve to
four victory at the Mets tonight. It's Phillies won nothing
going to the seventh against Detroit, and they finished the
Speedway Classic the ballgame at Bristol Motor Speedway today in Tennessee,
which much better weather today Braves over the Reds four
to two. The game was suspended by rain Saturday night

(32:39):
in the first inning, a nearly two and a half
hour rain delay at the start Saturday pick to you.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, that rain was not stopping last night.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
When we were watching that delay live and it was
just like they were trying to get it in it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
It was like, no, no, not today.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
No.

Speaker 12 (32:57):
If they didn't take the teams off the field, the
shortstop would have been swing in the field. At one point,
it was coming down faster than that drying agent was
put down.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Steve was talking about a drying agent. I was like, yeah,
the dry drawing would be the only drying agent possible.
They would have canceled football games in that weather. Like
I was like, they're not playing baseball in this this
is ridiculous.

Speaker 12 (33:19):
I've told I am told that that field that they
were on this week and of course they created this
whole field right field of a NASCAR racetrack in Tennessee
just for this one game, this one weekend. The yeah,
and it was terf I mean artificial, and but that
the field is going to East Tennessee State. They're making
good use.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh good for them, Well, it'll be well irrigated, it'll
be well, I.

Speaker 12 (33:44):
Kind of work out.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yes today, that's over to East Tennessee State. That is awesome.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
So coming up next we'll dive into evil to some
of these training camp notes.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Is it just business?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
And how much? What else are they hiding from us?
What else are they hiding from us? We uncover it next.

Speaker 13 (34:05):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports Sunday watching
the Tigers with runners on the corners and two outs
try to score here the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It made a lot of moves at the trade deadline
getting the ran. That was big as the Tigers strikeout.
As Dan Dickerson would say, the Tigers threaten but do
not score. That's the radio announcer for the Detroit Tigers,
Dan Dickerson. Martin Whiz here with e from salon either
one of us, Dan Dickerson, that's a ball?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Okay? Cool? Uh? He from training camp? Oh so I
am not one I should say like this. My experience with.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Training camps is strictly from reading reports of training camp.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Okay, so very much like the way I studied history.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's just about reading and contextualizing it all because I
wasn't there, you know, I ain't there What impact do
you think the hold d has, which is a relatively
recently new phenomena. Used to be hold out, then they

(35:19):
changed the fines in that CBA, and now you have
James Cook sitting up in wherever the Bills have camp,
sitting there saying listen, I understand this is a business,
but I'm a business and I'm not taking that field
until business is handled.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I think.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
And you said it right, the new collective Bargaining Agreement.
Before when guys held out, those fines would just be forgiven.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Right.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
It's fifty thousand dollars a day for missing mandatory team
functions and that's what training camp is, man, And fifty
thousand dollars a day adds up. So what you don't
want to do is hold out and incur a two

(36:13):
million dollars fine, I mean, and not have it forgiven
just off the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Now, no one will accuse me of being a mathematician,
but that sounds like a quarter of a million dollars
a week. Yes, yeah, If somebody find me like that,
I just run for the border.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
And so you have to find ways to still try
to keep your your your leverage and negotiations as a
player being at home and just hanging out. Remember Ezekiel
Ela was in Cabo, and you know a lot of
guys just just hang out. That's no longer the case.

(36:53):
So the whole d in is the new thing to do.
Everybody who had a grievance or wanted a new contract
is training camp because it costs real live dollars, not
imaginary dollars anymore. And so guys aren't willing to cough
up that type of money whether they get a new
deal or not, right because there's a chance you won't

(37:16):
get the deal that you're looking for, but you still
have to pay out for missing that time. So guys
they look, I'm gonna come to work, but I'm not
gonna work. Essentially, I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna punch
the clock, but I'm not gonna put myself in a
position where i can hurt myself and jeopardize my long
term future.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
In training camp at least.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Every so often from a reading article like in the
I'm an Apple News subscriber, so I forget I'm not
sure where I read it at May Vanity Fair, The
New Yorker, The Atlantic, something like that. But it'll be
somewhere along in that vein of places.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
And I was reading about this a couple of years ago,
this concept of quiet quitting, which I was the most outrageous,
ridiculous concept of my entire life. You mean to tell me,
if I am not going above and beyond that my job,
it is now deemed as quitting.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Right. If all I'm doing is.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Going and doing the things that are lifted on the
job duties on the application, I am now deemed as
a quitter. I hated it. This was wrong with this country.
This is quiet quitting, This is hold in is quiet quitting.
Like I'm not gonna I'm not participating in the drills.
I will sit here. Like you saw Michael Parson's walking
around with his hoodie on. He's in Oxnard, California. He's

(38:34):
gotta work real hard to keep that hood on his head.
It's hot out there.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know what I mean. Like he's like this, I
kind of like the attitude of like, listen.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
You will all will jerk me around with my contract
for years, Like Trey Henderson has been fighting for a
new deal, for even the old deal he had to
fight for.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
He feels like he should be getting on this one.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Right. Yeah, so I don't necessarily dislike this, but it
feels like something that could just really sew a discontent
in a locker room.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Not because I think the guys in the locker room understand.
That's the one thing that that other players understand when
it comes to players negotiation and the value that that
player brings to the team. Right, if you're the starter
and you bring a certain level of value at that
spot to your team, and your team feels that they

(39:32):
need you to win, then they don't have a problem
with the whole in They understand the business of it.
They understand that not all contracts are guaranteed and you
can get hurt permanently on every single play. The you know,
the percentage of or the chance of you being hurt
on a football player is higher than I believe any

(39:54):
other team sport that has to So they know, they
know when it's all all said and done, when the
regular season starts, that person will be James will be there,
He'll be available, Trade will be there, He'll be available.
Michael Parsons will be there and be available. And that's
because they understand that. Look, this is when the rubber

(40:18):
meets the road. Like you can posture in the offseason
when there's nothing on the line, but when those games
are on the line, then guys are gonna show up
in their play and they'll play out there last year
of their contract, and they'll play with the mindset of
this is my contract year. I'm going now because you
didn't want to give me what I feel I owed
or what I think I've earned, then I'm gonna make

(40:40):
it impossible for you.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Now.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
So now I'm gonna go try to have a year
where you always talk here, guys in their contract year,
they want to have their best year ever because that
means those numbers go up when it's time for negotiation
in the offseason.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Absolutely, it's more of a thing you hear about in
the NBA more. I think the contract here true. They
do have guaranteed money, which is especially now you.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Hear these old player podcasts being like take the money, now,
what are you doing? Uh? You said they leaders, hold in,
hold out, they understand. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Martin wiss, Ephram Salam here and a Fox Sports Sunday
broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and uh,
you know, we see this play out just about every
single summer, you know, heat waves, summer storms, you know,

(41:39):
blockbusters at the movies and Jerry Jones and one of
his star players fighting over a contract negotiation.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
By Groundhog's Day.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
You know, this one part three of the three part
trilogy of this generation or this era. They'll probably have
a remake down the line of Jerry's up there long enough.
But he had it before with the Marcus Lawrence and
so on and so forth. Dak Prescott two years ago,
Ceedee Lamb last year, Michael Parsons this year. But you
said something to me in the last segment that I

(42:14):
was like, you know, this is the type of insight
that former athletes, especially the ones that are also also
great at media like yourself, can really truly provide. And
when it was everybody knows that it's a business, right, everybody,
both the players and the coaches and the GA. Everybody

(42:37):
knows that it's a business. And anybody who's not aware
of that or keeping that in mind is just.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Lying to themselves.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
And so when Michael Parsons goes full notes app yes
or two days ago whenever it was, he requests the trade,
and he says, I came to you guys two years
ago when they were up doing it. Everybody knows that
it's a business, right. Everybody knows that is in that

(43:06):
locker room that if Michael went up there, it's like
essentially approaching two years ago. For a guy on the
Michael Parsons track at that time can be obstensibly viewed
as a pay cut.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
If he plays out his rookie deal, he would be
getting more if everything stayed the same.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
No, do you agree with that premise? Is that right
or wrong to you? I just know two years ago
teams very rarely do that.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Now.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Jerry got bitten in the butt by painting someone early
two years prior to having to in Ezekiel Elliott right,
and he didn't improve any year after that, he got worse.
So I can see how Micah's like, hey, I'm on

(43:59):
this trajectory, pay me now, but go ahead. And there
were more pressing deals that needed to be done in
terms of DAK, in terms of CD before MICHAEH.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Parsons.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
So you have to understand, even though it sounds good
that Micah went in there and preemptively told him, hey,
sign me to a longer term deal now and it'll
cost you less. Essentially, they weren't going to do that
because they knew they had them for the next two years,
the next three years, no matter what.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Right, I don't have to pay more for what I
already have right now.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Now, what they should have done, though, is they should
have paid him towards the end of the season or
at the beginning of the off season, and they would
have set the market, and then everyone else would have,
you know, been beating the market opposed to now them

(44:59):
coming in and the market's been set by TJ. And
now they got a pony up at least a million
more of whatever that number is for TJ. And the
second thing they could have done if they weren't planning
on signing him, is his trade value.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Was through the roof prior to the draft.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
They could have got a king's ransom, right, but they
chose not to do that as well. And so I'm
just scratching my head. And now everybody says, this is
what Jerry does. He ends up paying his stars no
matter what. But at this point, if you pay three
players that amount of money, you don't have much of

(45:47):
a roster to compete with. So I don't know if
it's about are the Dallas Cowboys looking to compete and
a division where Philly has run away with it? And oh,
by the way, there's another team and the Commanders that

(46:07):
is now poised to compete with Philly for that opposed
to Dallas being in the mix. Is Dallas going to
be third or fourth in that division? That's the thing
that this type of negotiation and and and and procrastination

(46:29):
that Jerry has has has put his team in the
middle of.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And I definitely think the first and if you look
division wise, Philadelphia is looking down at everything happening below them.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Absolute laughing but laughing.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
I mean you got to remember who they played in
the NMC championship game.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Now, I'm not knocking that, but they are definitely looking
down from their ivory tower and being like ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
So, but to go back to the Micah and Jerry thing, right,
you go through three years ago or two years ago,
both sides say. Micah says, I want a deal. Jerry
says no. Everybody can understand that. Everybody can understand that. Okay,
the next year comes. Now we're year four of this.

(47:15):
You know what I'm saying, and it's like, hey, wait
a minute, Like generally these are when these kind of deals,
when you're top of the market, guys like the Justin
Jefferson's soul ones. These are like when we really start
to like we're having this conversation earnestly.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Now, We're not just turning you down regardless.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Maybe we can come to terms here, maybe we can't,
but like we're gonna have a real conversation here.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
For whatever reason, it seems like from that moment to now.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
That this one feels different to me, and it feels
different than the DAK negotiations. It feels different than the
CD negotiations because while we all had the feeling that
DAK was gonna get paid, CD was gonna get paid, right,
there was a little melody drama around it, but we
all kind of had the feeling, and we all again

(48:03):
agree that Michael Parsons probably will get paid when this
is all said and done. It feels to me that
this is the first time that the Cowboys are in.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
The position where this is both your.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Best option and also a top two or three option
in the league. Right, you paid that because that's the
best quarterback you got and it's gonna be real hard
to find better than him. I like CD, lamb. This
is not a slight to him, but he's the best
receiver you got. He's not the best receiver in the
league right justin Jefferson, Jabar Chase, they all would like

(48:39):
to have a word, But CED's the best you got.
You're not gonna find any And CD's credit, he is
in the top three four. You're saying you're not gonna
find no better than the CD. Right, you know what
I'm saying, You can't. You know you're not gonna find
out done the market for it. Michael Parsons is arguably
in the under thirty division the best pass rusher in
the league, right up there with the I think t

(49:03):
wipe up in twenty nine, so under twenty nine to it, Like,
you know what I'm saying. For that, how does Miles Garrett?
I think Miles Garrett is thirty Okay, yep, I'll put
it like this. For the guy goes he's the micl
what twenty five, twenty six six, He's the best pass
rusher going into the second contract. Those guys are on
their third deal.

Speaker 9 (49:19):
Mis Garrett is twenty nine, by the way twenty nine.
All right, fex Crosby, I would add, I think he's
in the under twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Oh, phrasy like this is fair, this is this is true.
He's the best pass rusher going into his second contract. Yes,
he's the best pass rusher who's in this spot. Yes, right,
that makes sense. Yeah, he's average, you know, well over
twelve sacks a year for the first four years. Fifty
two and a half sacks I think he has in
four years. So he's on par with those that level

(49:46):
of talent coming off the edge. And to go with
the idea that it's a business, it makes sense to
haggle with the Dak Prescott, It makes sense to haggle
with the side Lamb even it to me, don't make
no sense to haggle with the Michael Parsons.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah, but I don't think. I don't think they have
the bandwidth to give Michael what he wants. That's why
either you sign him early or you trade them, because
now they can't I don't know if they can afford
to pay him TJ. Watt money. That's what it's gonna be, right,
And so I mean that's a steep price tag for

(50:28):
an ed Rusher, and you have so much more money,
so much more of your cap allocated to two other guys. Like,
that's a situation where I liken it to what since
going on in Cincinnati with with Tray they opted to
go offense instead of defense. Now they finally got their

(50:52):
first round draft pick, Stewart signed to a guaranteed four year,
eighteen million dollar deal.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I believe it is. But you know they're all pro
d n Trey is.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
They gave the money to the receivers, right, So if
three guys on the offensive side eating, including smoking Joe
and so where Cincinnati is a historically cheap franchise, So
even if Joe Burrow comes out like, hey, we need

(51:29):
him pay him his money, at a certain point, ownership
is gonna be like, I don't know, And I think
there's a little bit of a correlation there with Dallas
unless they know they can't compete in the division for
the next couple of years. If they understand that and
they want to keep Micah and keep them happy, then

(51:51):
they'll do something that really strips away any ability for
them to compete and build a roster that can compete
in a division that don't get better. But that's the
thing that I and again, as much as my training
camp experience is limited to reading the newspaper, you'll be
shocked to find out my GM experience is credibly similar.

(52:14):
But I just don't understand the idea of players as assets,
which is a little bit of an uncomfortable conversation I have.
But if you have, if you know like that last year,
these conversations at the at the you know, the year four, generally,
when these conversations are starting to happen, you know you

(52:36):
don't have the bandwidth to give them what you want then,
or at least I put it like this, you should
know that you don't have the bandwidth necessarily give him
what he's looking for in that moment. I just have
trouble with the idea of like, why is he still
a cowboy?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Why don't you trade him? Why don't you get two
first round picks? Why is that is that just Jerry
literally asleep at the eighty.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Year old wheel.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
I believe it is, like I said, if they were
unsure about if they were going to do this, then
trading him right before the draft that I mean, that
would have been an all time high in terms of
value teams would have definitely given up first round draft
picks a couple of them to get a Micah Parsons

(53:20):
on their team, and you missed that window. So now
you're kind of like in limbo. Now Mica is under contract,
he has to play. But say he goes out and
has an all Pro year and he leads the league
in sacks, You've just now walked yourself into a situation
where you almost can't walk away from. And so, like

(53:42):
I said, if you're okay with just signing the guys
that you drafted and the guys that you like, then
go right ahead. Strain that cap as much as you can,
but you're not going to be able to put a
viable competing team around him.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
And the well, you know, you wonder if they're how
I mean, that's a team prior to last season. I
think this it's up there with like thirty six regular
season wins.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I think the Chiefs were the only team that had more.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
And like prior to last year, the thirty six regular
season wins at the Cowboys that had in the last
three years twelve and five total and five twelve and
five and then for five and twelve last year might
without uh Mike McCarthy's last season, but that to the
point the ross was talented.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, and even.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Which is a more glaring thing, the inexperience of the
new head coach, like, we don't know what this iteration
of the Cowboys will look like. So going into a
season or into training camp with the Micah Parsons thing
hanging over, a new regime taking over, who are the

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Dallas Cowboys and what are they aspiring to be?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Well, the good thing that we know is that Jerry
really took his time and really evaluated.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
A ton of possible prospects to go ahead and lock
up that head coaching job.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
To make sure he really vetted everybody.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
You know, he left out of his office, knocked on
the head coach's door that Mike McCarthy had just left
and said, oh, he's not there anymore, locked the next door,
and then one door down and said, hey, Shoddy.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
What are you doing next year? Yeah you want to? Okay, yeah,
you're parking in the head coach spot now, but we're
gonna see you know.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Did you hear the like as in his quicker shot?
Did you hear some of the stuff out of this
some of the Cowboys press out of training camp about
Brian Schottenheimer, how they were having him called in for meetings,
and then after a while Shottenheimer guy, I guess quote
unquote caught on to the fact that these were like

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clandestine interviews and started dressing nicer at work. I'm telling
it was reported that way, I promise, unless it was
like one of those Adam Schefter with the one on
Twitter that maybe I'm pretty sure I've seen that the
transcripts with the press conference that he was just showing
up the work with the I guess, with the backward
hat visor on instead of the vibe.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And then he's like, you know, hey.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
This is the fourth time in two weeks Jerry's called
me down to the office.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Maybe I should turn this visor front wace, put a
button up on. I'll go get that, go over the
great clips, get a haircut, like I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
You know what though, Dallas Will Dallas, you know that Jerry,
and we're talking about I commend you my friend, not
in a good way, but we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Him, you know what as a quick fifteen second moment.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
As more private equity and all this buys into sports,
and we lose more and more of these characters. Jerry,
more power to you, my friend. Keep on doing you
because I'd like to keep on doing my job, all right.
Coming up next, one of those other competitors in the NFCS.
It was all roses last year. But do those rosies
really smell the same or we have an outcast situation

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on our hands.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
We'll get to that, coming up next, Martin Wise.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Ephram Salam coming to you live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Ephraim.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
So, I didn't play college sports at all. Shocking nothing,
I mean intramurals, So yeah, nothing at all.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
What's your what's your sports background? What's your sports journey?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Like? High school? What? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (57:38):
I play?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I was on the basketball team.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I was on the varsity team as a freshman in
Louisiana and then Hurricane Katrina happened, and then having to
play sophomore year on JV which was backwards, right, But
then I ended up getting back up to varsity as
a junior and senior.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
And I was a high jumper. Okay, yeah, I could
up and I could shoot the dribbling, you know what
I'm saying. That was whoa. I got to bounce the
ball and run.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
So what you're saying, is they have to put the
ball down on the ground, it comes back up and
move forward.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Oh yeah, I was like a.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
You know if Marcus Smart was like a couple of
inches taller, Yeah, you could like was just jumping through
the Like that was me. I could jump, but like
the coordination to then don't get yeah, and then the
dribbling to go dun't get come.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
I just like that.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
They put you on on the freshman varsity team and
then there and then after you're they're like.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
No, it was two different schools. It was two different Yeah,
he was in Katrina. His school was probably gone. Okay,
well now I feel bad.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Way to go in, way to go, and I will
say historic catastrophe. You just piled on the division, I
suppose whatever you would call it in high school division
division right that I was in did have guys who
played in the NBA. The best player I played against
personally was DJ Augustine. Okay who Yeah, it was actually

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the guy who let me know that this wasn't for you, well,
that this was for me, but anything else going forward,
Like I could play high school, but like he let
me know that I won't go play nothing else. Oh okay,
but the blessed was told you, Oh, no, he had
to tell He didn't have to tell me nothing. He
just had to go out there and play. And it
was like, oh, you got fourteen, you remember. I remember

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he wore fourteen, brother Martin fourteen red and white. And
it was like, oh, I'll never forget that he had
a broken finger on the right hand. Okay, it's a
summer league game, so there's a running clock, the forty
minute running clocks. Who twenty minute has he had like
fifty points and he didn't shoot any jump shots with

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his right hand. Oh gosh, he's right handed.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
You know what I'm saying. Oh, Man, when you see
stuff like that, he's like, you know, it's like ooh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
And the team I played for, we were a good
a good team like Competer for state championships. Like it
was a good team, had players who played division ie. Uh,
most of the guys played football going forward. But the
guys who played four years high SEC football what used
to be pack twelve football, so like real athletes that
were really out and no, no, it was he he
let me know it was over, you know, But that

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was honestly, I looked at it as a benefit Okay,
because like seriously I am. I am like at the time,
like six three whatever you call me whatever, the same
high I am now one hundred and sixty five pounds.
And I'm going in practice against guys like Chris Marquis,
who played running back at UCLA for four years. That's
why I'm practicing against a running back who walked into

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US as a freshman and is starting. Chris Brown walked
into Tennessee as a freshman and is playing on the
offensive at full Formers Tennessee as a freshman. And these
are the guys who have to like basketball training camp, wall,
football season still going on. This is what I'm really getting.
Minutes then fresh then they come and all of a sudden,
I'm the seventh man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
But they it was it was beneficial to me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
And you never played any football. No, my mom wouldn't
let me. But honestly, you see them boys out there.
I would have the athlete that I was mentally and
the athletes that I was physically were two different things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I would have broken.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Myself playing football because I would have been a crash dummy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
That was a crash.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I've been playing basketball that at least you were smart
enough to understand that and be aware of that. You know, Yeah,
I would have Yeah, there's no chance, man, I would
have no way, no way, But that was the better
for the hay I member Chris Brown boxing me out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I'd be in the street, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
These type of things that you're watching people like you
see the every so often you see a training camp
video of a tight end just blocking somebody into the
stands and knocking over the gatorade.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Imagine it was basketball. We're not wearing pain, and he's
backwards to me doing it before. So I saw the
benefit of knowing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
All right, So when we come back from from from
this spectacular update from our very own Steve Ian, we're
going to dig into your athletic background, since you have
so much to say about Mart's here. Okay, we're going
to We're going to get in it and see what
was going on in your high school. I think the

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spoiler is that none of the stuff that me or
Ian was doing. Whatever makes Steve the Seger's update, no
matter how slow, to be.

Speaker 12 (01:02:34):
Accurate, Yeah, likely, I think that's all of us in
the office. Actually, by the way, in case you didn't
see it. The new Hall of Fame class for Pro
Football wasn't shrine in Canton yesterday. Antonio Gates, Eric Allen,
Jared Allen, Sterling Sharp. Possible Hall of Famers one year
from now include Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, and coach Bill Belichick.

(01:02:57):
Because coaches don't have to wait as long as players.
Bill's running back James Cook sat out practice today he
wants a contract extension. Steelers linebacker Alex Highsmith left practice
with a groin injury. Eagles wide receiver Aj Brown miss
practice with a hamstring injury. The Dolphins gave defensive tackle
Zach Sealer a three year extension where forty four million

(01:03:17):
dollars guaranteed. The forty nine Ers signed veteran wide receiver
Robbie Chosen. Wide receiver of Buffalo Khalul Shakira as week
to week with a high ankle. Spring Colts running back
Savon Achmed suffered a severe leg injury at practice after
a hip drop tackle by a teammate. His leg was
put in an air cast and he left on a stretcher.
Most teams start their exhibition scheduled this week. We already

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had the Hall of Fame Game Chargers over the Lions
this past week. Five WNBA games today, including wins for
New York and Indiana, even though superstars Breonna Stewart and
Caitlin Clark are each out still due to injuries. In fact,
the Indiana Fever without Clark had won five games in
a row. The league is off on Monday. Trinity Rodman
returned from a back injury to score the late game

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winner on the pitch as Washington defeated Portland two to one.
She'd missed nearly four months. In the NWSL, NASCAR victory
at Iowa for William Byron his first win since the
Daytona five hundred and February, and he was this close
to running out of gas. He ran out of fuel
during the celebration. In fact, Cameron Young was the PGA
winner in North Carolina, his first PGA title career.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
On this tour.

Speaker 12 (01:04:26):
There, and yes, we do have a final from Philadelphia
silently for this show well, bat Asilent is the Tigers
offense tonight. The Tigers did not win on the road,
Phillies two nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
The final.

Speaker 12 (01:04:37):
Kyle Schwarber with his thirty eighth home run of the season.
Charlie Morton is still pitching in the Majors. Had six innings,
six strikeouts, just one run aloud, but takes the loss
for the Tigers. San Francisco was a twelve to four
winner at the Mets, who were first place in the
NL East to start the day, now a half game
back of the Phillies and the standings at Bristol Motor Speedway.

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They finished up the game in Tennessee that had been
suspended by rain Saturday night. In the first inning, Braves
beat the Reds four to two. Today victories for the
Dodgers and Padres wins for the Brewers and the Cubs.
The Chicago win at Wrigley was five to three over
Baltimore on a two run homer in the bottom of
the ninth by former Dodger Justin Turner. The Angels were
down five nothing in the six but did win in

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Anaheim eighty five against the White Sox on a three
run homer bottom of the ninth. The White Sox have
a record of forty two and seventy, but the Rockies
lost at home. Pittsburgh beat him nine to five. The
Rockies record thirty and eighty one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Back to you You know Steve Charlie Morton, yes, still pitching,
one of the Tigers' illustrious addctions that trade.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
That line, they were also win on au Hennio Suarez.

Speaker 12 (01:05:48):
Who slugger went to Seattle, you know, likely would to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Play you know, third base or shortstop, one of the
two on this Tiger's roster.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Interestingly enough, the Tigers who brought him up, developed him,
got him into the league, and then made a trendous
trade with Cincinnati to let Suarez go for a pitcher,
infamously Alfredo Simone, who did not know they had the
worst ra in baseball when he pitched for the Tigers
for a single season.

Speaker 12 (01:06:17):
Well, you know, Suarez for all the thirty homer seasons,
always looks like he can hit about ten every season.
There is that danger, but I'll take the thirty homers.
I mean, but the Tigers are in a division where
they could sleepwalk the next month and maybe still win
the division by ten games.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
And I think that's what Scott Harris thought.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
But like, if you want this team to be a
real World Series competitor, between the outside of what is
it from Andy Banya is at third today, Hobby Bias
is shortened labor Torres at second one for eleven and
a game against the Phillies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Do you know what, The Phillies are a really good team.

Speaker 12 (01:06:55):
Absolutely, The Phillies could be a team in the NL
that takes around by away from the Dodgers, for example,
just as the Tigers, if they sleep walk too much,
won't be getting a first round by in the American League.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
And I get it, I get it. The Twins quit
the Guardians half don't.

Speaker 12 (01:07:13):
Know what you just mentioned. With the baseball trade deadline
this week, the Minnesota Twins literally traded about half their
major league roster.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yeah, they legit did.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
They did like a Charlotte Hornet's last month of the
season type of move, like Washington Wizards last month of
the season type of move.

Speaker 12 (01:07:31):
It was kind of like a Marlins we just won
the World Series title, let's break up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
The team time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
So the Twins just sold everybody. The Guardians are being
indicted left and right. The White Socks are the White Sox.

Speaker 12 (01:07:45):
They Guardians cleaned out the locker of the closer who's
on quote paid leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Class right, who was again a guy who was like
a trade a gem.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
People were thinking about a guy who was gonna move
this deadline likely and they were like, no, he's moving somewhere,
all right, moving the hell out of here.

Speaker 12 (01:08:01):
Seemingly every other closer that was eligible to play was
delt before the trade deadline this past week. The Padres
have four relievers from the All Star Game this year.
Four if if we get to the playoffs, and the
Padres are looking like they'll be at minimum the last
wildcard team, they don't even need a starting pitcher to
throw five innings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
They have that go to bullpen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
And in today's baseball hell, they don't even want starting
pitchers to throw five innings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
That as the fact, they don't even want you to.
You know, I'm surprised to see old Charlie Morton go
back out there for the sex love. But he actually
pitched well the second time through the order today. And
they're Elijah Baseball Minute with.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
So even we were talking about the Cowboys and Michael
Parston's earlier in this hour, and.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
But what we really were talking about our producer, Let's
do it Ian and his athletic prowess.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
He did. He did have joke, He had some jokes. Jokes. Yeah,
I don't worry, I can go back rewind it a
little bit for the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Audience, because I told the people in my athletic history
of making the varsity basketball and track teams as a freshman.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
And then this is the part that Ian missed. I
switched schools.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
They put me on JV basketball as a sophomore in Michigan,
I was on the varsity track team. However, the fact remains,
I did letter in at three or four years in
high school, lettered in two sports, one of you know,
obviously lettered in track my sophomore year. So I'm sure

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that Ian, your letter jacket still fits right.

Speaker 9 (01:09:45):
No, No, I was not a varsity track or basketball athlete.
I was a sailor actually all throughout high school sail
what now, Yeah, competitive sailing?

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Where did you go to high school?

Speaker 9 (01:09:57):
Northern California, San Francisco Bay. There did a lot of
sailing up there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Okay, a competitive sailor. That is something I've never heard of.
How was it? How did that? How'd that go? Fun?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:10:11):
I haven't done it in a while now because it's uh,
not something I felt I wanted to go or maybe
even could have gone pro in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
But can you go pro in?

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
There's the America's Cup, there's the Olympics, there's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
There's yeah, like a random you'll see it every so
often June July. You turn on ESPN and there's people rowing.
I assume they're professional, But is there like, is there
a pro rowing league?

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Is there?

Speaker 9 (01:10:36):
Is it actually recently? I think they did not. I
don't know, you know what, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:10:43):
Maybe it is lucrative, maybe it's not. But there actually
is a sale GP. I think is like a recent
a recent development. There's like a league for it now
and there's teams and I think it's by country.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Have you uh, oh, this might end badly if they
don't know what happened to me. Have you heard about
these people that tried to row across the Pacific Ocean?

Speaker 9 (01:11:05):
I am not They're not done a lot of rowing myself,
but I've heard it's super taxing physically, so across the
Pacific Ocean. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Yes, this these the McLean Brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
They are rolling across the Pacific Ocean to raise money
for clean water, and you could track where they are
and right now they are they're trying to get to
Australia and they're a lot closer to Australia than they
are the last time I saw them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
But yeah, look, so they started in South America.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Oh wow, and what is that Peru? Probably yeah, all right,
near Peru, Ecuador. I don't know, forgive me, but you
look and they literally have rowed across the globe. So
now they are near wherever Port Villa in the Pacific Ocean.
But they are a lot closer to Australia than it

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used to be. But like these people, they can't sleep.
You know, there's like four people on this boat. They've
got to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
No, but like they sleep for like the uh I
listened to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Ryan Roussillo did a like an in depth podcast you
could if you google it, did the Dune hits on
Good Morning American stuff. They sleep in ships, but they
can only sleep for like an hour at a time
because they're in this rowboat. They're in the middle of
the Pacific Ocean. So it's like, you know, you know,
I was sleeping then I hit my head on the
ceiling because a wave came. You know, that sounds awful.

(01:12:31):
I mean it doesn't sound like something I'd.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Like to do. That sounds awful.

Speaker 9 (01:12:36):
Yes, good car.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I respect the calls, but I'm gonna have to I'll
meet you all over there. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
It kind of reminds me of my thought process generally,
when I can choose between a non stop or connecting flight.
It's like, when I'm in that connection, would I have
paid the difference to skip this? If I'm like I'm
sitting in that Charlotte Airport, but I paid seventy five
dollars to just be where I want to go, I
would have paid a whole lot more than CENTI finalis
to not do this. But speaking of paying for what

(01:13:06):
you want, the Washington commanders seem that they do not
want to pay Terry McLaurin what he wants. And we
have these conversations all the time, Oh is he a
top five receiver? He's your top ten receiver. We're still
workshopping the name of this thing, maybe spin the Wheel,
Miss three box, whatever, But we're gonna go through the

(01:13:26):
wide receivers in the NFL and figure out exactly where
Scary Terry should be and if that money lines up,
we'll do that. Next Fox Sports Radio, Martin weiss E
from Salom coming to you live from the Fox Sports
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Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
It'll pop up at the top of your screen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
So if when we were talking about the NFC East
a little bit, talking about how the Philadelphia Eagles are
looking down and just you know, just chuckling at the
everything that's going down.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
They got a bird's eye view exactly right. See what
I've done there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
And we look at Dallas as an organization that, for
whatever reason, I'll call it dysfunctional is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
A pretty good read. I think you know what I'm saying.
They don't necessarily operate in the most efficient way historically.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Another team in that division that's also been true of
is the Washington Commanders, who are now in this debate
with Terry McLaurin. Are we sure that you think that
the Washington Commanders have turned a corner in like their organization,
because I know Jadon Daniels was really good last year,
and I know there's a lot of conversation about it,

(01:15:03):
but you got to make this move for Deebo and
now your wide receiver one from last year is not happy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Well I get that, but they have definitely turned the
corner when when you look at new ownership and they
came in right away, brought in a stable coaching staff.
They absolutely hit on the draft and found themselves in
the NFC Championship game running up against the division rival.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
The fact that you know so much was put on
Jayden Daniel's plate and all he did was is really
excel and show why he is one of the top
young prospects or the top young players in the league.
You know, as crazy as it seems, you know their

(01:15:55):
trajectory and their upside is enormous. Now the cliff on
the other side of that upside is also prevalent. It
likens to c J Stroud and Houston a year prior.
But as bad a year as CJ and the Texans had,
they still made it the exact same place they did

(01:16:19):
the second round of the playoffs and so and that's
what all their weapons being hurt. So in terms of
our Washington are the commanders the real deal. I believe
they're the real deal because I believe Jayden Daniels his
approach to the game is the real deal. And he's
shown nothing but leadership as a you know, rookie quarterback.

(01:16:42):
And normally when you get that level of leadership out
the gate, I think Andrew Luck, I think even Russell Wilson.
When you look at that level of leadership out the
gate as a rookie and that level of success, you
know that that kind of paves the way for expectations.

(01:17:04):
Now he's coming into the season with higher expectations, but
I don't think any of the expectations for him are
higher than what he was able to put on himself
when he was coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Yeah, I think too. You look at his mindset, it
seems to be.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Right as what you'd like it to be. And if
it's not, I don't mean it's kind of funny. But
his mom is right there to get him right back,
and we'll get him back in line. I can tell
you that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
But let's go ahead and do this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I personally think that, like top five list, a little
overrated at this point. I think I prefer the tears,
But also too, just like sometimes is this guy better
than that guy. Let's have a little bit of that
with Terry McLaurin right here. And why don't you go
ahead and set this up for us?

Speaker 9 (01:17:48):
Okay, so we're gonna start with a little bit of
NFL music just to set.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
The tone HEREO, tone setter.

Speaker 9 (01:17:55):
Yeah, there we go, And essentially, I'm gonna name a
bunch of receivers here, one after another for you guys,
and you're gonna tell me whether you would rather have
that receiver or Terry McLaurin for your football team going forward,
for this, for this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Next for this next season, for this coming season, for
this upcoming season.

Speaker 9 (01:18:14):
All right, So let's start with this one. This would
be a hot take if either of you took Terry
over this guy, I think. But how about Terry McLaurin
or Jamar Chase I'm taking, Yeah, Terry McLaurin or Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Jefferson, I'm taking Justin right.

Speaker 9 (01:18:28):
Get the easy ones out of the way now, Terry
McLaurin or Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
You know, I take Tyreek. But again, let's take the
microphone away. Just go run routes, buddy, Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:18:42):
Terry McLaurin or Pooka Nakua.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
I take Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 9 (01:18:49):
I think I take Terry first hesitation there, Yeah, I
think I take Terry. How about Terry McLaurin or CD Lamb.
I take CD Terry McLaurin or Malik Neighbors Special Terry
McLaurin or Nico Collins.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Oh, I might have to go Terry has been more
consistent with more quarterbacks. I go with Terry. Oh, I'd say.

Speaker 9 (01:19:19):
Terry, Terry McLaurin, or Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Now that Gary Wilson talking about consistency with a lot
of quarterbacks, he blows that out of the water. I
go give me the old head from Ohio State, Terry
McLaurin over Gary Wilson.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
But that one is a really close one for me.
That is really close for me as well. But I'm
going Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 9 (01:19:43):
All right, How about Terry McLaurin or DK Metcalf, DK.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Really take give me Terry mcluy DK metcalf seems like
an unserious person to me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Yeah, you can't his catch radious?

Speaker 9 (01:19:57):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I mean, it's crazy? His speed? Can't rady is his size? Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
Yeah, you can't teach that and not teach that. How
about Terry McLaurin or T Higgins.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
See, this is tough because if you just asked me
like T Higgins, I feel I want to say T Higgins,
but I've never seen T Higgins be the guy Capitol,
T Capital, I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
That's the thing. I seen Terry be the guy. I'm
going with T Higgins, though, I'll go with T Higgins.

Speaker 9 (01:20:27):
How about Terry McLaurin or Davante Adams for this coming season?

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
You go first.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
I'm gonna go with Davante because he's got something to
prove right now. For one year, I take Davante. But
if I'm going for like more than seventeen games, I
want Terry.

Speaker 9 (01:20:50):
Okay, I'm gonna spring a tough one on you guys,
crunch for time. Terry McLaurin or DJ Moore.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Ooh, Terry, I take Dj. I'll take Terry because Jo
walked up the field last year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
You can't do that. That's bad.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
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Radio studios here in Los Angeles, California, at seven o'clock
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keeping the seat warm, joined here with Ephraim Salaam, who
you know is the true you know, the the athlete

(01:21:29):
on the program. Here, I'm the talking jack hole who
pretends to know what he's talking about. But I will
say this an athlete to listen, all athletes except for Ian.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
I mean, I got you know, what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
I don't say sewing sailing Failing definitely is a that
feels like a hobby, not a skill. It's hard to sail,
I will tell you that, but I mean, you know,
it could be hard to play. But but do you
know what I'm saying, it's not you know anyway, I'm
just being funny. Sailing is also plus two. You could trown,

(01:22:10):
so that's no good scary.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
You guys wear live.

Speaker 14 (01:22:12):
Vests, yes, but like not particularly buoyant ones. Oh wait,
lifevest in like just for going swimming, No, and sailing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Oh man, I'm gonna need you to stay up during
the program. Okay, I'm gonna need you to just at
least try to follow along. We're doing a radio show
here a little it's live.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
It's not a podcast. It's life. We're doing live.

Speaker 10 (01:22:42):
I'm sorry, I grew up like just swimming in Lake Michigan's.
I was gonna say, no, why would I wear a
life vest?

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Like, well, if you were competitively sailing, as the guy
next to you said he was an hour ago, then uh,
I still don't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Think Wait he was on the sailing team I was.

Speaker 12 (01:22:57):
I don't think i'd wear one, though, I don't want
to be different.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
No, I think.

Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
I think if you're required to wear like a coast guard,
approved to compete and stuff like people would trying to
sneak you know, certain brands that weren't and they were
you know, skinnier and less bulky and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
But I'll tell you what about it, A life A
life jacket saved my life on my bachelor's trip.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
For real. Where were you swimming at though so recently?

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
Yeah, like a couple of weeks ago, like I legitimately,
it took me a minute to like get back into
the mode of having fun like I was. So it
was I'm not joking, like, wow, it was. Uh, I
forget the name of the place that we were, but
there's this cave that has you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Know, just deep water in it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
So you you dump, you dive in, You go on
the ATV to the cave, You jump in the cave,
you get wet, you get out, you get back on
the ATV.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
You're right back where you go. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
So, buddy of mine's not a good swimmer. I am
a good swimmer. I was on the swim team in
the second grade. Okay, but no, I should say I
was in the swim team and then continued on through
like junior high.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Okay, it doesn't count unless you swim in high school. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Oh, I mean the only reason I didn't swim in
high school because I was too busy letter in the
other sports.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
That's true, We've already gone down that hit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
And also, swim practice was at like four o'clock in
the morning and basketball practice was at four o'clock in
the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
That worked out better for my parents. Okay, right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Finally, the whole shaving of the arms and legs and
stuff too far. Now, I wouldn't do it all that,
but I put it to you. I know how to swim,
and have swum competitively at certain points in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
But get to a to B comfortably. So I'm swimming,
I bring my boy over and he jumps in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
He's literally and where are you guys in the Dominican
Repoka dr al.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Right, so he's done on a rifle.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
He drops in and he's got He's just flopping around
like he's the fish in the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
So I grab him and.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
I'm doing a little rescue swim because again I know
to rescue swim. He can't swim, but you got a
life jacket on. We all have life jackets on, ye,
But no, he couldn't swim, all right, at least he
couldn't swim well enough to know that. He's like, I
need a hand.

Speaker 9 (01:25:19):
Well, he should join the Ravens Lessons with Michael Phelips.
If you saw that, he's gonna be given Ravens players lessons.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
It's a valuable skill, very valuable skill, one that I
wish this jack hole had.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
So I get my boy. I swing him over to
the rock. Now at this point, I know how to swim.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
However, I am terribly out of shape, all right, so
I'm exhausted. I grab onto the rock to just hang
there for a minute, catch my breath. Back A man
the size what the size of a running back? He's
built like a running back. So he's five ten but
just muscles out of his ears, grabs my off the

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rock and pulls me back and then pushes me down
on my shoulders to where I'm I'm submerged to use
you to push himself.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Hey, I wasn't expecting none of this, So I'm in
the middle. So all of a sudden, I just get
a big gulp of water, so I realize, you know,
first of all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Like who is this guy? Because now I have to
kill him? And I was like, oh, he's drowning.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
So I picked this running backsized man up out the
water and put him on this rock and I go
up and I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
He was African of some sort and didn't speak the
best English. And that's the best case for everybody, because
I cussed him out, so crazy boy, What.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Did I say? Listen? What did he say? What did
he say? He's just oh, you know, no.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
I let it have in Spanish a little bit too,
because I was he said, oh no, no, no, kind
of put his hands up like this. I was like,
you bleep and bleep you because he didn't have on
a life jacket, and the life jackets was two dollars
at the top and man, the last day I said,
he walked past, and I said, no, you don't need.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
To walk past these life jackets no more. You need
to buy one. Just lab with you forever.

Speaker 9 (01:27:15):
Dipping your toes into other languages while you're cussing them
out is so funny, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Especially this guy. I'd been there a few day.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
I'm really really pretty good at Spanish, especially if I've
been there for Yeah, I was letting them have it all.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Types of ways.

Speaker 10 (01:27:28):
That's pretty valid, though, Like I would wear a life
jacket a friend of the dr and this is that's
that's a no brainer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
They saved my life though, I tell you because I
if I, if I hadn't had something to bring me
right back up, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Know if I would have done it, and we might
not have been here today. But I am and I
don't look like what I've been through, and still I rise.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
What I was thinking about that it makes me think
of the phrase that is is very There's a lot
of stupid phrases in football. One of the ones I
find to be the stupidest is drinking out of a
fire hose.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
It's like, you know, we're just gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Have him drinking out of a fire hose in training camp.
It's like, I conceptually I don't get with that. Like
I get it we're gonna overload with information.

Speaker 9 (01:28:20):
I think it's a good effect of saying gets the
point across of what you're trying to say.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
But I just visibly see Ben Johnson opening up a
fire hose and Caleb Williams just sitting there like, and
it's like, maybe that's why Caleb got his haircut, so
that way, just with the water, would you know he'd
be more streamlined. But anyway, some of these reports out
of Bears camp, right, they want a Bears camp. Ben
Jonson gives the offense the boot off the field, right,

(01:28:47):
and happens all the time, and so you hear all
these back and forth today. If you have any level
of social media, the Caleb clickbait is out of control,
but the lips are such that it is kind of validated.
It looks rough. I'll just say that, it looks. It
does not look like everything is up to snuff. Now

(01:29:09):
it is August third, So the benefit is they have
at least three or four weeks before it has to
be up to snuff, and they're playing in games that matter.
But I wanted to hear from Ben Johnson after today's
Bears practice, which was family day, so there was a
ton only the reasons I say that is there was

(01:29:30):
a ton more cameras there than normal they like at
your average practice, saw a lot of Caleb Williams' mistakes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Quote unquote. This is what Ben Johnson had to say
about this his team in general after the practice.

Speaker 15 (01:29:43):
Execution of the play wasn't what we wanted it to be.
And I mean it's it's a credit to the defense.
I mean they came out and they can kicked the
offense's rear in that drill. So that's what showed up
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
They wanted a little.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Bit more in the drill he's talking about. The offense
was backed up in their own territory deep, deep, deep.
I don't know exactly what yard line, but it was
close enough to where the drill resulted in two safeties
in an interception like that was the end result of
what the drill. So you pull your offense off the

(01:30:16):
field day one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
I get that. You'll say you do it all. I'm evaluating.
I'm just taking it all in from Ben Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
I'm trying to drink all of what the fire Hose
has to offer from these press conferences. But what do
you expect to see from first year head coach Ben
Johnson's second year quarterback Caleb Williams, especially considering some of
what first year head coach has said, is that basically
this is first year for quarterback two, even though he
played the first year of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
In terms of the offense and.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
Everything, it's a learning process. They're learning each other and
it's just not for Caleb. It's mostly centered around Caleb
Williams because he is the face of the franchise, but
it's also about the entire team they're trying to figure
out Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson is trying to come in
and be a part of the change of culture that

(01:31:07):
needs to happen, similar to what Dan Campbell was able
to do in Detroit and Ben Johnson being on that
staff and understanding what work goes into that and how
difficult that is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
You got to remember.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Dan Campbell's first year, they were, you know, vying for
the first picking the three I think was picking the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Three and thirty to the end of it the first year,
and then the second year was that nine and eight
season where they didn't qualify for the playoffs. But that
was the famous Rogers and Cobb walking off of Flambeau
Field thinking this may be the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Last time spoiler alert, It wasn't for either.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
And so I think Ben knows it's going to take
some time now. What he doesn't want to do is
get into the situation that Caleb was in last year
when they drafted him. They were talking playoffs and a shot,
real shot, and they just didn't have things in place
as a team to even warrant that. There's so many

(01:32:07):
holes all over the place and the team, starting with
the leadership. Ben is just coming in and trying to
get his quarterback to be the best version of himself
in year two and then you'll go from there. Right,
So there is a process here, and it's difficult to
change regime regimes like that and then have your young

(01:32:28):
quarterback just hit the ground running.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Now they will be better.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
It will be better clock management, time management, better play calls.
But the totality of how the team does just doesn't
fall on Ben. It's also about that defense. And just
like he said, yeah, offense sucked, but the defense had
a great period and that's the thing you have to
understand as a head coach in practice and training camp practice.

(01:32:56):
If your offense isn't doing what they're supposed to do,
that means your defense is one step ahead of them.
And as you're building this team to go compete with
other teams, that's a positive within the negative all at
the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
And he did actually make reference to that point later
on in the press conference, saying that you kind of
want it to be that way. One day the offense wins,
one day the defense wins. That's the mark of a
good team. I do find it fascinating that this is
the first time that Ben Johnson. I can't get this
out of my head, and I think about it every

(01:33:31):
offseason as we have the turnover that we have, feels
like to me, the defensive coordinator's job. Stop the offense,
get off the field, limit the penalties, good third down rate,
try to force turn put your players in positions to
force turnovers.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
That's basically if you were looking at the job description
on indeed dot com for a defensive coordinator, that's what
it would be. Offensive coordinator, positive plays, no backwards plays.
You know what I'm saying, Get out of bad first,
how quickly can you turn first and fifteen into second
and seven right consistently?

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
In that?

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
How often are you avoiding first in fifteen or second
and fifteen scoring points, getting first down, staying on the
field right. The head coach's job is the only job
that's only one word, and it's win.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
That's the only person who has to answer for the
wins and the losses as the head coach. It's the
only person ultimately who gets these wins and losses on
their resume?

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Do you know what I mean? And when? How win?

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
However, whether you win three to nothing, If you win
a seventeen hundred games at a score of three to
nothing every game, congratulations, you were the best.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Coach of all time, all the fame. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
If you win fifty seventeen hundred games fifteen to nothing,
congratulations are fifty to forty nine, Congratulations, best coach of
all time?

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Because it's about winning you And that's kind of the
beauty of this in.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
This salary cap league and one that we don't really
see and other sports, ironically enough, that have more salary
cap leeway, is, however, the head coach thinks is the
best way to win is generally what you see on
the field, right, Like you know, like you see and
you see all different types. Some teams run the ball more,
some teams throw the ball more. Some teams are value

(01:35:18):
the defensive side of the ball, Moore, somethings value the
offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 9 (01:35:21):
Moore.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
I just want to remember, like we.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Talked about this earlier, the Eagles playing the Commanders in
the NFC Championship game and being like, you know, the
Commanders got to that NFC Championship game. I always wonder
what it's gonna be like when Ben Johnson has to
answer for a game in which where a right tackle
drops a first down or a wide receiver throws an interception,

(01:35:49):
because those are the types of things that happened to
the Lions under Ben Johnson that he didn't under Dan Campbell.
I should say that Dan Campbell was the guy responsible
for answering, but Dan Campbell was not the guy calling
that play.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
I want to I just and I'm not Maybe it'll
be nothing, maybe it'll be everything.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
But especially for a team that just felt like they
had accountability issues out of their last head coach, I
just we're in that honeymoon stage. Now, I just I
am excited for that moment to happen, just to see
how he reacts.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
Yeah, it's it's one of those situations where when you
have coaches who are coordinators, are terrific coordinators, and they
become head coaches, all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Eyes are on them as well.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
Like you said, every time something happens, are you know
something bad happens, you lose a close game that the
scrutiny in the spotlight is on you. Right, as a coordinator,
you talk to the head coach, the head coach goes
out and takes the bullets.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Yep, Now you're the shield.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Do you have to go out and you're have Do
you have to be accountable for what happened happens on
the on the field wins and losses?

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Right? You don't want to have a whole year of
saying I got to prepare the guys better. It's on me.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
Like you don't want to go down that road as
a as a young, you know, brand new head coach,
but you also want to give yourself some leeway. And
I know that's you know, an unpopular thing to say
in a win now league, but you know it takes
a minute to change the culture. I think Caleb Williams

(01:37:43):
has the talent. I think Ben Jones is an excellent
offensive coordinator. Is he an excellent head coach? I guess
we're gonna find out.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
We absolutely will find out.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
And coming up next talking about messing around and finding
out one NFL owner just might have met his match.
We'll get to that in just a minute. Martin Wis's
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Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Ephraim.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
I saw reports yesterday out of Jacksonville about their scrimmage
in which you saw the very honestly kind of reminded
me of watching high school football practices in which you
saw the starting wide receiver change his jersey and then
go to the other side. Of the field and play defense.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
Deon Sanders said that the way that the Jacksonville Jaguars
did this is also analogous to the way that they
did at Colorado, where you had your number one offense
practice against your number two defense, your number two offense
practice against your number one defense. So therefore, Travis Hunter
could be essentially in the right place at the same time,
because as talented as he is, I don't think he's

(01:39:20):
found a way to be in the same place at
the exact same time. What do you think of the
plan so far that the Jaguars have for Travis Hunter
to implement him into this team, because you can't say
him meant to the offense or the defense.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
It's and the defense. I think it's great. I think
just to steal from another sport pitching and hidden.

Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
Show Hey and the Dodgers and what the Angels show, Hey,
showing the league that you know, I can pitch and
I can hit, even though it's frowned upon or are
you know, after you become a pitcher, then you specialize
in pitching and not so much at the play. But
I love the fact that this is the evolution of

(01:40:04):
the athlete. Most athletes, especially in pro sports, focus on
and football focus on one aspect of the of the game,
which is offensive defense. And I think Travis Hunter is
a special individual. He's shown us he could do it
in college at a high level consistently. And so I think,

(01:40:26):
you know, as the third pick in the draft, you
want to maximize that value or at second pick, second
or third pick in the draft, you want to maximize
that second pick. You want to maximize that value. Uh
and and and let him be great, let him be
who he is, and that's a dual uh, starting athlete

(01:40:46):
who can who's capable of starting offensively and defensively and
both so and until it becomes a problem for him,
then I think it's great for them to explore that
because that's what he wants to do, especially when you consider,
I mean, that's what he wants to do. But I'm
not saying, look, a lot of people want to do

(01:41:08):
a lot, you know what I mean, Like, he's got
to be great at both to be able to play
both at a high level. I'll and I'll honestly be
again the same way, I kind of have the curiosity
to see how Ben Jonson's gonna respond when his first
trick play doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
I want to know how Jacksonville responds when he has
a good wide receiver day or a bad cornerback day
or vice versa. Right, like he's locked he locked up.
You know, Jamar Chase had three catches for twenty seven yards,
but he had three drops, or you know, he had
seven for seventy seven and two touchdowns but gave up
three touchdowns on the other side. Just interested to see

(01:41:47):
how the response is because James Gladstone, who's younger than me,
but speaks with the conviction of a man who has
had a lot more success than either one of us
have had going into his first job as a GA,
and I commend him for it. But this guy's talking like, hey,
Travis Hunter can change the calculus of football like that,
and that's what they said about like a guy like

(01:42:08):
sho hal Tani And to your point, yeah, but like
hitting it makes that the violence of football just makes
it to me seem so far fetched on its face.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
But who am I to say somebody can't do it?

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
Yeah, I think we saw Dion do it in Spurts,
but I think athletic wise, and you know, guys aren't
taking hilacious hits and stuff like that anymore. I think
he's absolutely right. As a GM, you want to try
to maximize your player's talent, and if that's on both

(01:42:46):
sides of the ball, then you have to put your
best players out there, especially for a franchise is trying
to find a way to garner any type of success,
any type of buzz, any type of movement, and I
think this is an exciting pick for them and the draft,
and I think people want to see just what he

(01:43:07):
can do. And with that alone comes the notoriety in
the buzz that a team like Jacksonville needs.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Now you mentioned it, it's just like the Dull definitely
notoriety in the buzz, and honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
It's honestly, this is part of the reason why I
just up heel back to curtain a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
I the day job, I'm producing a lot of the
sports TV that you may be watching.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
This is the reason why.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Everybody is focused on the backup quarterback competition in Cleveland.
The number one overall pick in the draft was relatively
unknown before he walked into Miami and then had the
pleasure getting drafted by the Tennessee Titans and the Jacksonville
Draft Wars drafted the most interesting player in the draft
of Travis Hunter. And that's just, honestly the way Cookie crumbles. Unfortunately,

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it's just the reality of the situation.

Speaker 14 (01:43:58):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
If Travis Hunter played for the Giants, much different story
the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
We lead every single segment with a Travis Hunter update
and just salivating for three and a half years from now,
when Jerry was like, do we really want to pay
Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
For two position?

Speaker 8 (01:44:15):
The ball?

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
He plays one? All right, let's kick it over to
Steve Saga to bring some Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:44:21):
That's right, you'd be saying a few years tarning as salivating.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
They could have had.

Speaker 12 (01:44:24):
Hunter for fifty million a year. Now it's gonna cost
him eighty, right, exactly probably what it's gonna be at.
We'll get to football in a moment. But the Phillies
are back in first in the NL East half game
over the Mets, who lost it home twelve four to
San Francisco. Then tonight at Philadelphia, the Phillies shutout Detroit
two nothing. Kyle Schwarber with his thirty eighth home run
that's tied for the NL lead. He has eighty eight

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RBIs that leads the National League. The Braves won for
to two over the Reds at Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee.
The game had been suspended by rain Saturday night in
the first inning. They played the rest today. Official attendance
ninety one thousand. Reds left twelve men on base and loss.
The Dodgers were winners three nothing at Tampa Bay. There's
still three games up on the Padres, who won again

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seven to three over Saint Louis. In the NL Central,
the Brewers first place, still two games up on the Cubs.
Milwaukee won fourteen to three at Washington. Nationals have lost
five in a row. The Cubs were five three winners
over Baltimore on a two run homer in the bottom
of the ninth by pinch hitter Justin Turner. Kansas City
won in ten innings at Toronto, seven to four. Boston

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won its fifth straight games six to one over Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Miami won its.

Speaker 12 (01:45:32):
Fifth in a row and swept the Yankees this weekend
seven to three. Today's final, Seattle edge Texas five to four,
beating Jacob de Grom. Wins on the road for Minnesota
and Arizona Pittsburgh as well. Angels beat the White Sox
in a comeback eight to five on a three run
homer in the ninth NASCAR victory for William Byron at Iowa.
Just three races left in the IndyCar season. The next

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event next weekend on Fox TV, again from Portland, Oregon.
WNBA wins for Indiana and New York, even though Caitlin
Clark and Breonna Stewart each out with injuries. Still, Buffalo
Bill's running back James Cook sat out practice today. He
wants a contract extension. Buffalo wide receiver Khalil Shakir is
week to week with a high ankle. Spring Eagles wide

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out Aj Brown missed practice with a hamstring injury. Steelers
linebacker Alex Highsmith left practice with a groin injury. The
forty nine Ers signed veteran wide receiver Robbie Chosen, and
the Dolphins gave defensive tackle Zach Seeler a three year extension.
Where's forty four million dollars guaranteed? And now to the
golf for the weekend. Well Live Golf was off. It'll

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be in Chicago next weekend on the PGA Tour. The
stop was in North Carolina and an alum from Wake
Forest was the winner. Cameron Young gets his first victory
on the PGA Tour. He's been golfing four years on tour.
This was his ninety fourth start, finally a victory, and
he dominated this weekend a win at twenty two under par.

(01:46:58):
The guy had been runner up seven times in his
career and finally broke through. And by the way, the
PGA Tour says, he is the one thousandth unique winner
they've had on tour. They added up all the winners
they've had since the eighteen hundreds. This is now one
thousand different guys. And as far as the payout, Cameron
Young wins nearly one point five million dollars today, the

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unknown second place golfer Mac Meisner nearly seven hundred and
thirty thousand dollars. And this is the end of the
regular season for the PGA Tour. The three weekends of
playoffs start in Memphis with the Saint Jude Championship next
weekend being a playoff event that's a twenty million dollar
total purse, and then mid March mid August, i should

(01:47:40):
say in Maryland, it's another twenty million dollar perse and
then the Tour Championship in Atlanta, which will end three
weeks from today.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
Back to you, Steve, thank you, Steve Penny for your
thoughts on Happy Gilmore two.

Speaker 12 (01:47:55):
Did not see it, will not see it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Did you see? Happy Gilmore won?

Speaker 12 (01:47:58):
Many many, many moons ago? I cannot quote it. Unlike
some people in the hallway.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
You won't watch Happy Gilmore too.

Speaker 12 (01:48:05):
I do not have that streaming package and will not
buy it to watch Happy Gilmore too.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
You don't have Netflix, I do not, Steve. You have
to move from the cave and come and get a condo. Somethhing.

Speaker 12 (01:48:15):
I've said this before. I hear people like during the
week saying all these shows that they've gone through and
they binge watched you know, this comedy that's twelve episodes.
My first reaction is, how many hours are there in
the day for you people? Football season especially, those hours
don't exist.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
You're not in football season yet, Steve. This is the
perfect time we are this week.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
Actually, I also, first of all, me and you sympatico
here because I also agree like I don't know where
the time is. Like I walk past like my fiance
and well, just power through and I'll be like how
me too.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Are you so far into anyway? My wife and I
that's you have to marry a partner who's down. We
watch seventy hours of drive f ones Drive to Survive
in five days, see like seven episodes, I mean seventh episode.

Speaker 12 (01:49:08):
Hired a babysitter and eat themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
They're fourteen and eleven. Hey man, get out of here,
go you on the fast flap? Will you make yourself
a sandwich? That's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
Do you have that You have no streaming services at
all or just not yes, just not that one. In fact,
win this a big one. You don't have the major one.

Speaker 12 (01:49:30):
Yeah, well I'm gonna miss two games on Christmas. Switch, well,
you're gonna have to wit items which I did see
last Christmas without having the services.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
It's just leg Steve got a new name.

Speaker 12 (01:49:40):
I didn't say that. That's not a reason for me
to put it. Seems like twelve great months of entertainment. Congratulations,
But as soon as years ago we were moving off
the cable model and into streaming. Just as an American,
I say, great options are great. Love this, but you
could see where it's going that eventually, especially baseball and

(01:50:01):
football with making deals with so many different services. You're
gonna have to buy four or five, and no, I'm
not buying four or five. Doesn't seem like Steve's it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
It is funny.

Speaker 9 (01:50:15):
I actually I found it funny too. I thought they
did a good ChIL how good of a movie it is,
but you know, it got some laughs.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
I wondered if it's it wouldn't have shocked me if
if it was on whatever streaming service he has, if
he would have flipped it on just for the sake
of conversation because of the golf.

Speaker 12 (01:50:32):
Has been in conversation right. It was a huge in
conversation last week.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
And honestly, I wanted Steve's thoughts regardless whether you see
the movie or not, because I know you would have.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
I felt like you would add a figure. I think
you'd enjoy it, Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
I'll say this, Netflix to me specializes what I call
laundry movies, Whereas as long as you are doing the
laundry or something else as you watch the movie, you
will really enjoy it as a laundry movie. Like I
was playing the guitar. The entirety of watching Happy Gilmore.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
I thought it was great.

Speaker 12 (01:51:04):
So you're saying not Oscar winners. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
In in other words, well, the first Happy Gilmore wasn't
exactly the Godfather.

Speaker 12 (01:51:11):
I'm saying their whole lineup is what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
I will every so often they got some heat. Every
so often they'll have something that was like that was
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
But it's it's kind of like, once you get to
week thirteen of Thursday Night.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Football, maybe one of the remaining games, it's gonna be
a really good one, but we'll watch the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Of it just because for completion's sake. I guess I
gotta watch Jack wars.

Speaker 12 (01:51:34):
Brown and eventually they'll pull out that uniform, so somebody's
got to wear all red against a team oh yellow.
It's the ketchup versus Mustard matchup on Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Get into the color rush. Happy Gilmore too, I must watch.
I can't. I can't think of a bigger split.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
First of all, Steve's got every light on any update
a room and Ephim would love every let off in here.

Speaker 12 (01:52:02):
And just most Sundays, I cannot see that there even
is somebody hosting it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Because he hides off in his corner too. So you
really can't see. I'm in my own world.

Speaker 12 (01:52:11):
I've created a world as long as good radio is made.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
You know, I'm not mad at it, but it is
slightly disconcerting as as we're coming back into the segment
as a co host, the music is playing as well.
The Netflix is still playing over here. He's got it
chewed up on his iPad.

Speaker 12 (01:52:29):
Is the next F one episode?

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
I'm watching that live now we've all caught up.

Speaker 9 (01:52:35):
Watched the golf one, the Full Swing. It's good too. Yeah,
it'll get you into golf.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Got me in the golf.

Speaker 12 (01:52:43):
So it's really it's really the Mark Willard influence on
the Sunday Night Show. There's a golfer four.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Yeah, we love it, and Steve is great at it. See,
but it does end.

Speaker 12 (01:52:54):
In three weeks golf and football begins, and that's that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
We got action. I tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
In terms of sporting events that I've watched on TV
in the last five years, I can't really off the
top of my head. Watching Rory McElroy at the Masters
was like a top just five viewing experience. There was
a career element to that, of course, yeah, and I
wasn't I'm not into I am the definition of parachute

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into golf, by the definition of like it's gotta be
I gotta see people tweeting about it Sunday afternoon for
me to turn on, you know, but watching him walk
down and then the in and outs on eighteen, and
then the playoff, and then I forget the guy who
at those stay warm, like just in case he gets
a shot to beat.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Him in the playoff.

Speaker 9 (01:53:44):
Jim Nancy's call was just perfect too. McElroy has his masterpiece,
so goosebumps.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
And Washington walking and walked down. I'm like, man, who's
cutting onions in here? This is awesome.

Speaker 12 (01:53:55):
And golf does generally get good ratings for weekend sports
just for the record, of course. Then there's Chargers Lions
this week that was over six million viewers to watch
backups play an exhibition game.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Oh no, Steve, I heard people, you know, reputable people
say Trey Lance is not done.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
He is at his best game in his career.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
He may have, but still, yeah, I think ultimately he's
got talent, will get an opportunity to show that talent
and cultivate it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
We'll see there's a lot of people with talent. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:54:29):
Once the NFL goes to a twenty two game schedule.
Every quarterback's gonna get hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
So right that part I said when he got traded
to the Cowboys, I'll say it again, it's Trey Lance.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
Better brush up on that, Saskatchewan because.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
You're headed to the CFL coming up next though a star?

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
If just gruntled, how will this end? If it does?
Is a gift coming to a new team. We'll get
to that in just a minute. Martin White's Ephram Saloon,
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
Martin Wis's Ephram Salaam, coming to you live from the
Fox Sports Radio studio as we keep the seats warm
for another twelve minutes or so for Arnie and Plank.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
That's the show sweeping the nation. Where should they start?

Speaker 12 (01:55:18):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
You know what I'm saying with the revenoumore rundown? Correct?
There you go? There you go?

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
Uh, they might start here Ephraim Micah Parsons goes full
notes app and asks for a trade. Now, if this
plays out like the last two times we've seen just
gruntled player versus Jerry Jones, Michael Parsons will be suiting
up week one and rushing the pastor for the Dallas Cowboys.

(01:55:48):
But just for a moment, you know, it's the weekend indulgement.
Envision a world where Michael Parsons does get traded. Is
there a team or what team do you think think
he could flip their fortunes.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Or is he that type of player?

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Do you think he's the type of player that you
plug in a spot and he can flip a team's fortunes.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
I think that's a good question. I think if he
if he went to Cleveland, Okay, he can flip their
their their fortune.

Speaker 3 (01:56:31):
So because if you if you went to Cleveland now
and played the opposite of let's playing opposite Miles Garrett.
So it would be you have Michael on one edge,
Miles Garrett on the other one, and this year's number
five Picnation Graham in the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
That's tough. That's tough right there. You still don't have
a quarterback. Though. I think if he goes to New York, Okay,
play with Burns, Thibodeaux and Pittsburgh Lari So that was
to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
That's interesting because that wasn't the team that I think
that are like, I think that he is a if
you take him and put him on this team, they
go from I guess they're slightly their favorites now.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
I think Vegas is wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
But if the Buffalo Bills can put a package together
and go get Michael Parsons to pair with Josh Allen
over the next what's Josh twenty seven, twenty six, pair
with him over the next stretch, over the next four years.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
That's it good. That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
I mean Josh twenty nine, twenty nine, all right, so cool,
next three years. Whatever you think Josh plays till the
that's really good. I think Josh probably has at least
until thirty two where he's still running in athletic and jumping,
you know, jumping over buildings in a single bound type
of play.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
That the style of player that he has. I think
he's got at least three more years of that in them.
You pair with Micah make Pike, and the Bill's not
paying I don't like the Bills are paying anybody like young.

Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
I mean, I know they offered a lot of guys
on their defensive big deals, but you tag them up
there at Greg Russou like, and I thought that would
definitely help them get over the hump. And they added
Joey Bosa. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
Joey Bosa might have ten sacks, but he might have
him in seven games.

Speaker 9 (01:58:16):
He's already injured for them, right, Like, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
Expecting Wow, already Joey Bosa to like if he plays
ten games, I think that's a win for Buffalo. Right,
And you kind of chase this dragon a little bit
with von Miller before him, and now you did it
for joe Joey Bosa. If I'm Buffalo, if I'm Brandon Bean,
I'm picking up the phone. Listen, I'm picking with the
twenty seventh pick at best. Anyway, Jerry, what do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
I gave you two? Wolm. You know what I'm saying, Like,
what are we talking about here? What are we doing? If?

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl against Rock Party
and the Niners, Mahomes played well. Not taking anything away
from it, they'll play if you drill it down. That
won the Super Bowl was Chris Jones rushing brock Perty
off the spot all day. That's the play that won
the Super Bowl. When Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup went

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to the Super Bowl against Joe Burrow, offense play well.
Cooper Cup played well. The play that won the Super
Bowl was Aaron Donald tackling Joe Burrow because if he hadn't,
Jamar Chase was wide open and I had to be
a couple thousand dollars rich because I bettled Cincinnati, like
you know, and just hell Buffalo, go back to Buffalo.

(01:59:32):
If Chris Jones doesn't push Deon Thawkens into Josh Allen
an AFT Championship game, forcing Allen to miss that deep throw,
we might be having a whole different conversation about who's
the real face of the league or who's the Kings?

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
Right, you know what I'm saying, who's the Kings of THEFC.

Speaker 4 (01:59:50):
He'd be a whole different story. That's a great point, seriously,
And in that context, Dalla would be smart to try
to get maximum value. I don't know if they can
afford him at the number that's out there, but I mean,

(02:00:14):
I don't if even if he stays in Dallas, he'd
just be the highest paid d N just playing for
the money.

Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
Yeah, I mean, to your point, like kind of the
same thing with Miles Garrett. When Miles Garrett asked for
the trade. There's a concept of like, ooh, are we
gonna see Miles Garrett in playoff? Games shortly after we
found out the answers no right, and we've seen Mike
in a few playoff games.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
But like

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
If I had to bet, I think the Cowboys aren't
dancing this postseason if I had to bet, Whereas Michael
Parsons will not be making plays in the playoffs because
Dallas will be sitting at home, just like I'll be
listening to Plank and Arnie coming up next.

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