Martin Weiss & Kerry Rhodes React to the Latest NBA Free Agency Moves, Discuss Jalen Ramsey to Pittsburgh & More!

Martin Weiss and Kerry Rhodes open the show with their thoughts and reactions to the Lakers signing DeAndre Ayton. Then they get into the Steelers extending GM Omar Khan. discussing how deserved it really was. They also discuss how much of an upgrade new Knicks coach Mike Brown really is over Tom Thibodeau before reacting to the Bucks signing Myles Turner and subsequently cutting Damian Lillard.

Later, Martin and Kerry react to the Dolphins' offseason so far, weighing in on their decision to trade Jalen Ramsey and Jonnu Smith for Minkah Fitzpatrick, and assessing whether they might actually be one of the worst teams in the league. Plus, more fun with brand new editions of "The Sports Court", "Who Ya Got?" and "Easy As 1, 2, 3, 4"!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Martin Wise, joined here with Carrie Rhodes with Mary Mack,
who gave us no heads up. You're talking about this
right now, right right?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
You know that is the key of live radio. You know.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
We have an addition of easy as one, two, three, four,
which Carrie and Monty do on the weekends.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
We have that coming up at the bottom of the hour.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is the Mary Mack Special, so I hope it
goes a little better than the And when did you
tell Carry right now? All right?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Then?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I actually told him a little before right now, but.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
A minute in thirty seconds before now.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, I told Carry when the first time Carry asked
when what's on the show today? So that was also
the key. So now let's take to I want to start,
obviously with the Yankees. Are they ever going to win
another game?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Come on, man, I know you put me in the
hot seat.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
I know I'm a nank your hand and I'm right
here and I literally just left that game.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
And yeah, it's it's hard times right now, I'm just
giving you a hard time. I looked up as like, ooh.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Eleven brois three home run Saturday. Yeah, tough for the
Yankees right now is they have three and seven in
the last ten. But I'm just I'm just giving you
a hard time the other But do want to start
with what seems to be there's sometimes Carrie where there's
news that is, oh, this is actually front page franchise changing,

(01:26):
a situation where it's like, oh, no, you will remember
a time before and after this we saw that this
news broke right, That is not what I felt when
I saw that DeAndre Ayton signed a two year contract
with the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
No at all. No.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I have heard several people go across this network
and others talk about how well they needed a big man.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And that is true. DeAndre Ayton is seven feet tall.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yes, the metrics equal up to a big man. Yes,
but that's about it. That's where it starts to stop
for me. DeAndre Aidon has not been seen or heard
from since Janni's blocked his shot in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
True, that was it.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, the last time you heard of DeAndre Ayton
before now was when he wouldn't when they had icy
roads in Portland and he couldn't get out of the house.
You know what, I didn't think up until somebody recently
said it because I just thought, you know what, I've
been snowed in before. It's pretty ugly. They sent somebody
to go pick him up, and he didn't. He decided

(02:32):
I'm not getting in the car to go.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh really, no, no.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Because my first thought was like kind of like the
same thing, like you figure, you know, you're a professional athlete,
or at least were for the primary part of your
professional life. Were you were responsible to get to and
from where the team was traveling to, right, like you
had to get to the bus or get to the
plane to or however you were getting there and back.
So that's kind of what my thought was. But I heard, I.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Believe actually the Hoop collect the podcast saying they.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Send somebody there to go pick him up, and because
I guys, he was like, I'm not driving in the snow,
and he's like, I'm not riding either. So I don't
think there'll be that problem will probably exist in Los Angeles.
If it does, the Lakers and everybody else will have
bigger problems than the big Man because you know, snow
in La pigs flying hell, reezing over. But this move,

(03:25):
to me is one that the Laker fans and people
around are kind of celebrating the Mark Medina's of the world.
I'm not throwing shade on him, but you call Mark
Medina and you ask, and they'll tell you how Luca
they eight and will be a lop dread for Luca,
and he can the Lakers championship pedigree, will be able
to turn eight in his career around I mean, you

(03:47):
know it won't. No, it won't. By Game ten fifteen,
the Lakers fans are gonna be furious that DeAndre at
is their center and being like, wow, the best we
could do was Jack Hayes again for the second year
in a row.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, Martin, I'm not going I'm not going to that
to those lens. I think Aiden's is definitely a major
upgrade for the Lakers. Obviously they needed him, and you know,
I think a motivated Aiden, We've seen that he can.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
He can play.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
He's a good pick and roll shooter, so him in
the pick and roll with Luca will will definitely benefit
his career. And that's partly due to Luca, though it's
not I'm not like solely high on Ayton's game, but
him and Luca in the two man in the pick
and roll He's elevated every center he's played with, So
I think that's where people are operating from that belief.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
But as far as them, you know.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Having some serious, serious run ro causing serious damage in
the West with that roster, that's what I'm not high on.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Do you know who else made every center he played
with better? Who's that? Christopher Paul? Yeah? CP three?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hey, y know what again, also coincides with the last
time you've seen DeAndre Ayton.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Now, this just reminds me of if you've been a
longtime listener of Fox Sports Radio weekends, then you are aware.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
That for a while, I was riding an e bike everywhere.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I was riding an e bike all across Los Angeles
up to work various jobs.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I got WoT. I didn't have a car for essential reasons.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I had to get around right, I had to get
from A to B. I was riding the e bike.
And then I got a car. That car, I bought
it for like two thousand dollars. You know it was
that's a deal, bucket of rush. No, it wasn't right.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
A deal.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Didn't get me from A to B absolutely, but you
know what, that car eventually did it caught on fire
on the side of the road. This is all true story.
I was on the way to work, caught on fire
on the side of the road. You know why I
caught on fire on the side of the road because
it was a two thousand dollars car. That's why DeAndre
Ayton guy has been traded once he was the number

(06:03):
one overall pick. That team quit on him, gave up
on him, and then the other team that acquired him
has drafted since then two big men and paid him
to go home. Yeah, think about that. I've never been
so lucky in life that have been so bad at
my job that they said, you know what, we'd rather
pay you to go home and stay there then bring

(06:27):
you back. And I'm supposed to believe that this is
about to change anybody's championship thoughts, dreams, or aspiration. I'm
supposed to like, what's I mean? What do we do?

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Like?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'm with you. You read the athletic piece. They're talking
about DeAndre eight and it's late to. He's late to
the team playing, he's late to shoot around, he's late
to And you know the other thing that nobody is
talking about.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
All right?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
You got the Luca Doncions. He makes all the big
men better.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Sure, I get that Daniel Gafford, he became a much
better player catching Lucas Libs. Derek Lively stepped in the
league as a rookie and started playing really well. I
get that lebron Championship attitude of mentality. He spends a
million dollars on his body, right, all of that, Okay,
got it? You know, so he's gonna buy Osmosis now,
Luca's gonna start working out and all of this. You know,

(07:22):
DeAndre Ayton, you're supposed to I'm supposed to believe that
DeAndre Ayton is going to flourish being coached by JJ Reddick.
Have JJ Reddick does not seem to suffer much fools
or have time for much patience. Right now, I'm supposed
to believe that DeAndre Ayton muster. I'm late to work consistently.

(07:44):
I need the snowplow to get out of the driveway.
That J. J. Reddick is just supposed to be like
the man who is like and I don't need I
don't mean, I know, I'm tongue in check a little bit,
but this is completely serious. The man who's his house
burned down and was the JJ's house and down to
the palace. It's fun, Yeah yeah, and was like full
steam ahead, I'm coaching this team. There's no distraction from me,

(08:08):
Like that's gotta be. You know, a ton of stuff
going on in your personal life, as you can imagine
how it's being burnt down and can do his kids.
All types of stories and reporting was on around it,
but he wasn't sitting there in pregame of postgame press
conferences like yeah, you know, we didn't rotate because my
house burned down, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
JJ Reddick is not about to sit here and deal

(08:30):
with excuses and like that. It does not seem to
me to be the guy that he is. So I
just don't like every step of the way when he's
been admonished de Andre, it seems to crumble, Like I
just it seems like this is a disaster. And the
best part about it he gets a player option, so
if he stinks, he'll be back the year afterwards, and

(08:52):
if he's really good.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
He'll be on another team as a free agent that
can pay him more.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Do you think Ayton is like the anti Kobe with
that logic. I think about cod you know, he wouldn't
even celebrate after a finals game win, you know, until
the job's finished.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Job's not finished. Famous quote.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
And here's here's Ayton, you know, excuses not to go,
you know, because icy roads. And there's that quote a
few years ago where he said, you know, I feel
like I've accomplished everything I need to accomplish in this league.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
And no Madona said it. Madina said, just abmitute ago.
Ian our producer Ian Madeina said it. I'll give three
your hegoes.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Aighton told him word for word, bar for bar, I
have nothing left to prove in this league.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'm a max player. Aighton said that to Mark mcdinney.
I just heard it half an hour ago.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, the thing is, yes, that's that's we We know
that he's been at minus. We know that he's been
you know, I guess a product of you know, after
he left Phoenix, where he had some productive years, he
went to a situation where it was a losing culture.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Right, Chauncey Billips.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Is doing his best to get those guys back on
track and and maybe in a couple of years they'll
be where they need to be. But when you step
into a winning environment, a winning situation, it mostive some
players and a player of the of the talent that
Ayton has, if he had some want to and I

(10:08):
was going to a new situation where he is gonna
they're gonna win games. There a chance to be competitive,
a chance to actually be the focal point again. Because
at the end of its Phoenix career, his his job
his job description changed. Sure where he was a you know,
he was a scorer, he was a double double guy.
He was a guy that was on the verge of
being an All star. Then you tell that guy to know,

(10:29):
like when Moni Williams comes in, No, we just want
you to rebound and kind of get the scraps. He's
not interested. He is a max type player. We've seen
what he can do when he's at his best. So
you go to a situation where you are needed on
a team that you will get the ball and you
will get easy, easy buckets, so your numbers will be
increased anyway on the chance they actually I guess you know,

(10:52):
of course, correct your career and get you back on
track to where you need to be. This is an
ideal situation for him to flourish. And so you know
the name sayers may say he is, he is what
he is, and he is what he's been in Portland
and the last year in Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
But I'm a little bit more optimistic Martin guy.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I'm a guy that says, when you have the right
opportunity and you have that change and people are actually
expecting something from you, the cream rises then. And so
we'll get to see in the situation now, the situation
that he's in.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Gee, you don't have to go far to find them,
but somebody will find a way to talk themselves into
DeAndre Ayton, just like the Phoenix Suns did at number one,
the Portland Trailblazers did after that, and here we go.
I guess the Los Angeles Lakers have right now. I'm
telling you what this is going to be a disaster.
I am not a believer man, not a believer at all.

(11:45):
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Carry Rhoads and Today on this Saturday evening slash afternoon,
depending on where you are in America. Got the Tigers
with the one nothing lead over the Guardians, Astros leading

(13:09):
the Dodgers four to two.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yankees have lost again.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
All right, I'm done. Hey, that's enough now, all right now,
But you know it is not enough. Apparently this Pittsburgh
Steelers and Omar Khan he is back or hasn't really left,
but a new three year deal through at least twenty
twenty eight since twenty fifth season in Pittsburgh. Hired as
the team's GM in twenty twenty two. Now, I think

(13:38):
a lot of people in Pittsburgh will say, guys spend
a lot of the same thing. Eight win seasons, nine
win seasons, though playoff wins. To me, a contract extension
tell me if I'm wrong. A contract extension is a
tacit endorsement of what's going on. A contract extension says

(14:02):
I am in favor. I support the current regime. I
support what you've been doing. That's why I'm giving you
more money and the opportunity to keep doing it. You think
the Pittsburgh Steelers should be in that mindset right now?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, I don't know if that's I don't know if
they should be with that mindset, but I do know
they like stability. Right when they hire you, they hire
you for the long run, the long haul. We've seen that,
we know that to be true, and so I think
that's their identity. Right as far as Oman Khan in this,
I guess in this situation in particular, right he's swinging

(14:40):
for defenses right now. Now, we don't think that the
moves they made really vaulted them past any of the
top teams out you know, in the AFC. No, but
they're trying. And in the past, right like they kind
of just stay status quo. But this year he's swinging
for defenses. He's getting guys with names, guys that we know,

(15:02):
guys that maybe a couple of years ago were it
would have given this team the boosts they need. But
right now twenty one s exactly. But right now I
think we're up in the air on what's going to
happen here. But I think for old mont Cohn in particular,
right he's he's taking he's taking a couple of big
swings at it here and so we'll see, we'll see
what happens.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
So I actually do kind of agree with that concept.
And you say, oh, he hadn't found a quarterback. You know,
the Steelers believe this is true. They're either the only
or one of two teams to have replaced their leading passer,
they're leading rusher, and they're leading receiver from the year
press this offseason. There's generally people look at that as

(15:46):
a bad thing. I think it's a good thing. It
is a good thing. I think it's a good thing. Yeah,
I think that while George Pickens says DK Metcalf might
be the second most overrated in terms of like name
verse production receiver we're in the NFL, I agree, Yeah,
George Pickens will be the first though.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yes, right, you know what I'm saying in terms.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Of like considered to be so like and DK I
think gives Rogers more of a this is sick to
say consistent option. Yeah, that which is hard Martin. That's
hard to be said because both very very similar and
what you just said, what it really it's a mark
to George Pickens level of inconsistency. Yes, I said that
DK Metcalf is consistent.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
He's I think he's.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think he's I don't know if he's consistent though,
And that's my that's my thing. As big as he is,
as strong as he is, as much as he talks,
and the way that he gets paid. He's I wouldn't
call him consistent. I'm just saying he's more consistent.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I hear George Pickens, I put it like that DK
Metcalf may have a meltdown on the sideline. Yes, however,
I feel that he'll show up to.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
The game on time.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
True with George Biggins, that was a question Christmas Day
where Yeah, George, that don't know, I got it.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
And plus it was a OD game. What are you doing?
Like like stay in the hotel?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Kansas City? Where do you go with it? Kansas City?
I believe this Kansas City Pittsburgh plays Christmas Day.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I was gonna ask you that too. I was like,
where where was Where was he at? Where were they
playing that day? But I thought was almost positive the
game was in Kansas City. So it's a road game,
and you're like, hey, well, you know see when I'm a.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Little leeway for it being Christmas Day though, that's almost
worse not saying it's okay, but just like what were
you doing?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
You know?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I mean it was Christmas snowy in Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
They should have said the same guy they said to
go pick up DeAndre eight exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Maybe then he would have went maybe then he would
have been there.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
But I so that's what I get that though, And
I do think that it's a little disingenuous to say
it's been more of the same in Pittsburgh because while
the record and stuff has been the same, and like
the and the end result has been the same. I said,
the last twenty four months of Steelers football is been
a little different. And they're like going to get justin

(18:02):
fields and rush and like, like that's not we were
seeing the Duck Hodgeses of the world. And you know
what I mean, these guys are kind of homegrown nation
Rudolph and I know it took a long time for
him to get Aaron Rodgers, So I mean, I feel
like he's there, but he actually is.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
He's there, he.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Is.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I think the thing with with with Pittsburgh here is
again they're swinging for the fences, right. This is Mike Tomblins.
He's on his last leg as well. He's trying to
put put together a team that he knows. For him,
he is a consistent guy, right, and so with those
guys that he brought in, sons Dk Metcalf for me,

(18:42):
because I want to see I want to see him
take take another step up. You know, obviously he's going
to be the number one guy there. And even in Seattle, right,
DK Metcalf was paid as a number one guy, or
was looked as as the number one guy, but he
really wasn't there, So I agree. So getting the opportunity
to be that guy here and uh and from from
a guy that we know can get him the ball,

(19:03):
I'm excited to see it his uh.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
DK Metcalf's biggest highlight is a tackle.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
It is in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
The problem is DK metcalf plays wife. That's an issue.
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Speaker 3 (19:46):
I know you're waiting on the edge of your seat
for that.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
It's the greatest game show on radio. Question Mark question
Mark Okay, dot dot dot dot. Well, the Dodgers our
trail league again and we talked with this on last
night's show. Most teams, normal Major League Baseball teams have
a five man starting rotation. The Dodgers currently have seven
starting pitchers out on the injured list, so every time

(20:11):
it comes to this point in the rotation, they essentially
had back to back all bullpen games. So last night
pitching four guys who've never heard of. The Dodgers lost
eighteen to one to Houston tonight. It was a predetermined
two innings for the starter shohe O Tani, two scoreless innings,
three strikeouts, no walks. Now Justin Robleski in relief for

(20:32):
the Dodgers has allowed five runs in his two innings.
So Houston five to two at LA in the bottom
of the fourth, Tiger's winning again one nothing at Cleveland
in the bottom of the fifth, Cleveland trying to end
an eight game losing stream coming up in a half
an hour. White Sox at Colorado. Former White Sox closer
Bobby Jenks passed away of cancer at the age of
forty four. He was on the team's two thousand and

(20:54):
five World Series winner. Baltimore won in ten innings at Atlanta,
nine to six victories for Boston and Arizona. Miami beat
Milwaukee four to two, and the Cubs lost at home
eight six to Saint Louis, which ended a four game
losing streak. Minnesota sixty five winners against Tampa Bay. Toronto
won its seventh straight game at eleven inning win over
the Angels four to three. The Blue Jays are first

(21:16):
in the Al East, three games over Tampa Bay and
the Yankees now, as the Yanks have lost sixth straight
lost at the Mets twelve six. The lost to Carlos Rodon.
Philadelphia a five to one winner over Cincinnati. Two WNBA
games Tonight late third at Indiana, the Fever without Caitlin Clark,
leading sixty four to sixty two against La Clark missing

(21:37):
a fifth straight game with a groin injury. She still
hasn't gone full speed in practice. Golden State at Minnesota tonight,
Minnesota links fifteen to two. The NBA's Las Vegas Summer
League starts next week. A few games in San Francisco
and Salt Lake City and Summer League play. Over the
next week. The Rockets traded former first rounder Cam Whitmore
to Washington. Number one Yannick Center won his fourth round

(21:59):
match at Wimbledon, as did Nobok Djokovic. At the FIFA
Club World Cup Real Madrid one it's quarterfinal three to
two over Dortmund in New Jersey attended seventy six thousand.
That Jets Giant Stadium is going to be hosting the
World Cup final in a year, and we'll be hosting
the semis In Final next week of this tournament, July
eighth through thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Back to you, thanks Steve Martin Weiss and Carrie Roads.
Coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios
watching the Grant Park NASCAR Cup Series race. This is
this is you know, this is downtown Chicago, Carrie. This
is in the heart of downtown Chicago in the midst

(22:40):
of a rainstorm. It's seene. Yeah, how past, Paul, Maybe
you could not pay me enough to be out there
riding around. I was actually I saw a video of
do you see a video of Molik Neighbors. He was
in like a NASCAR pace car and he was like,
wait a minute, how fast did you saw this video
talking about Ian. Yeah, you say he was like, wait,
learn Hart was driving Yep, exactly, and then I think

(23:03):
they got it, like one fifty and elite neighbors just
kind of had this look up. I would like to
not go this fast anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's nothing, that's nothing. No, how fast have
you've driven before?

Speaker 9 (23:13):
Mary Mac, I'll just say, like Shador Sanders, I was
about to say, she was trying to catch up to
Shador Sanders.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
That's like inquiring minds need to know.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Okay, okay, how about it easy as one two three,
coming up now with Mary mack. Hey, y'all, what's up?
What's good?

Speaker 9 (23:35):
We're doing easy as one two three four? Moncey, don't
beat me up tomorrow. But uh yeah, I got a
couple of questions. Mmmm, let's see. I feel like these
questions are pretty easy, and I feel like you'll get them.
So let's go ahead and start. You got Martin as
your lifeline, Steve as your lifeline, and you also have
Ian as your lifeline, and.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Uh yeah, let's start.

Speaker 9 (23:55):
So with the Dodgers, and the Houston is playing right now,
and the Dodgers currently have the highest winning record in
the twenty twenty five season?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Who has these lowest?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
So?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Can you give me.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
Two out of the five teams to have the lowest record?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Right now? Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Let's do wore the two because I know two of
them off the top? I mean yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
The White Sox and the Rockies? Are they are those
the two?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Those are definitely two of the worst, I would think,
So right, is it the White Sox? Yes?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And is it the Rockies?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
There we go.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
Top five and they have fifty nine and sixty eight losses?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Are the A's on that list as well? They are
with fifty three losses? Who else rounds out the top
the top five?

Speaker 9 (24:49):
Washington Nationals with fifty two and the Pirates with fifty one? Okay, okay,
all right, next up we're talking about nil You guys
already know. So I thought about it and I was like,
give me the top three female highest NIO deals.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Oh, oh, top three female?

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I know one would be Juju Watkins. I would say, Juju?
Who else?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I think I know one of them? To Carrie, what
you got?

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Nigerie Kennedy from Texas Tech, the picture softball pitcher. She's
got a ton really, wow, over a million.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
That's got to be up there there.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I will defer to producer Ian on that one.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
I have no idea we need to re married.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, the woman athlete. See here's the problem. Caitlin Clark
is gone. Like the ones that I know had the
big bags are now playing in the professional sport. Maybe
maybe still in college.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I say, I think she's now graduated.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I think she was still in this season.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
She was one, and she's number one. She's number one.
Then so Libby Juju? And who was the other one?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Nigerie Kennedy? All right?

Speaker 9 (26:07):
Then I just realized I've been saying it around the
whole time. All right, Okay, is it Nigerie Kennedy?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
All right, my dad, that's all right. I mean you
spoke with.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
Okay, and is it Juju Watkins?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Whoa really?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
All right?

Speaker 9 (26:31):
And then the last one showed me Libby done. Livy
actually has four point one, she's the highest. She's actually
number two with one point And.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Then what about.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
That's who I would have no page is one point
five page backer. Okay, so this this recent college ty
Trump is one point two million Trump, Donald Trump's granddaughter.
She is a high school golfer. Wow, wow, Yeah, And

(27:08):
The last is uh, oh, that's actually it. That's it, oh,
Haley Cavender. Cavender, I can't say.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
If I would have known it was this year, I
would have had a few more few one. Yeah, yeah,
you know what. All good?

Speaker 10 (27:22):
No good.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's why I'm why MONTI doesn't.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I don't all good?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Oh good?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Number three.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
The next question, who led the twenty twenty five NBA
season leading with NBA turnovers?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
So, who led?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Who led the twenty twenty five NBA season in turnover?

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Well, it has to be somebody who has the ball
in their hands a lot, so that means they got
a lot of assists, but turnovers probably so Oh huh?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
How many, said Mary?

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Just one? Just one with the highest?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Who was the highest?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
The only one who had the most turnover in the
NBA last year? Martin, My honestly, my first thought goes
to Shay Gilders Alexander Okay, but that doesn't feel right.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
That's my first thought was I'm charting this out of
my head.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I'm trying to think about this because you're right, it
has to be a super high usage guy, but also
somebody who do you want to have the ball enough
to where they're going to turn the ball over. It's
not a problem, right because it's going to be somebody
who hits the ball a ton.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
I'm trying to think of the teams right now. Whoa
that's a hard one.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know who it might be?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Who you got?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
If I put it like this, if La Mellow ball
led the NBA at turnovers, would not be shocked. Also
to that point, has to be somebody who plays a lot.
So did the Mellow play enough? That's I don't think so.
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Either is a tough one.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, it's tough because there's only one too, she said, one,
not like three.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
So one who's just who just throws it away? Like
who's just careless? Who has the ball a lot?

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Man?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Just think about that, like James Harden Maybe.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I thought that, But again, I feel like that's assists
to turnover ratio more than you know. I'm gonna go no,
I can't be that.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Trey Young feels a little.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh that's a good that's a good one. That's a
good one.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I know Steve's not in those. When Steve you got,
you got, you got somebody.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Any turnover question, my answer is Russell Westbrow.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Another just in seasons, right, But he didn't.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
He didn't play it. He didn't play enough minute.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
But that would have been Oh yeah, I bet Russe
ledlega turnouts. What russ has played fifteen years? I bet
he's led to the league turnovers at least six.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
But Lebron and Yokich are guys that have the ball
all the time, right, So as great as the numbers
might be, it's like Dwayne Wade. He had the ball
all the time, he turned it over a lot comparatively.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, for sure. You know, I'm gonna go Ahea, you
get this, mone you, I'm gonna let you do this.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
My first instinct with SGA that's not right, but I'm
gonna go with it.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Tell me where SJA is on the list. He's not
even honest.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
That was it. It's straight young.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
There you go, three and fifty five turnovers four point seven.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And averages five turnovers a k.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 9 (30:25):
All right, next, all right, this one is NFL and
also has to do with music. So you guys remember
how low Wayne was kind of in the press with
the whole controversy in the Super.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Bowl controversy is doing a lot of heavy.

Speaker 9 (30:40):
Lifting, and how basically how he should have been the
headliner for the Super Bowl because he is from New Orleans.
So my question for you guys is, give me two
artists who performed at the halftime show in their hometown.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Ooh, in their hometowns.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Now, on a technicality, you're not going to have this
on your list, but the Grambling State Marching Band performed
at several super Bowls. That doesn't count. That's not the
school and it's not the hometown. But it's a fun fact.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
The l a super Bowl recently, that would be one.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
That one.

Speaker 11 (31:21):
Who oh yeah, doctor, those guys, which my favorite memory
from that Super Bowl, honestly is the fifteen seconds before
when Maria Taylor announces and.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Says, get ready for the best super Bowl halftime show
of all time? And I just thought it hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
How do you know?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
But Kendrick Lamar and doctor Dre No, no, Kendrick Lamar did
was that that was last?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Was that last?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
That was last year in the Super Bowl in their hometown, right,
their hometown. That was d That's not said doctor, He
wasn't hometown. It was New Orleans, Doctor Dre wa.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Kendrick Lamar was in that performance though, right, all right,
Doctor Dre, lock it up.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Doctor.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
We need we need one more. We need one more though,
so Doctor Dray for sure hometown Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That counts though. I feel like that would count like
in the Dre.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, because that was dra performance was halftime?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Did Prince perform in Minnesota? Miami? Miami? Beyonce did Houston once?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
You can't ask me, okay, it must be from well no,
not no, all right, so what do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
You want to go Beyonce in Houston. Let's go Beyonce
and then we can go uh Dra for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I know Drey for sure, So I also think Snoop
Dogs should count, But I also think Kendrick Lamar was
a part of the halftime show.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, but it was. It was Doctor Dre's performance.

Speaker 9 (32:56):
Okay, show me Beyonce, you go and show me Doctor Dre.
So yeah, they both did perform. Actually, Kenchrick Omar was
also in that. He was, Yeah, he was was.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
It does not matter we're talking about whose show was it.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Let me ask you something.

Speaker 9 (33:12):
Why didn't I didn't say headline because Beyonce didn't headline
and I was just.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
About to say, when Beyonce did the cold Play halftime show,
you tell me that was a Beyonce's halftime show.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
You tell me that wasn't Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Cold Play may even the last people to say, but
you tell me that wouldn't Beyonce's halftime show. I didn't
think so. I didn't think anybody would coming up next
more easy as one, two through four. Maybe Mac addiction.
You're doing great. You're doing great, doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Listening to sports radio radio.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
See, I knew he was at that halftime show.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I knew because I was like, I'm not paying the
most attention to the halftime show, but I'll never forget
Maria Taylor saying this is going like get ready for
the best halftime show of all time, and me thinking,
how can you possibly say that? Right now? Martin White's
carry Rose by the way, Fox Sports Radio, it's Ketchrick
Lamar before the how would you just crew all blued

(34:16):
out like uh, halftime very inglewood, inglewood?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know, I wonder how many people you actually could
have been a technicality when I said Snoop, Yeah it's snoop.
You know, I didn't realize I don't think most of
America probably doesn't. When they say Compton to Long Beach,
you know, we're starting trouble. How far Compton and Long
Beach are from one another. I would have thought there
were like neighboring streets before I moved to California, really

(34:50):
so far they were traveling that far in that time
period to go find like, Oh, this is the other
guy who raps. It's like kind of the same story
as when you have uh, neighborhood basketball players who are like, Oh,
I'm gonna go beat the guy in this neighborhood or
in that neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I got to go get the guy who.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
You heard about, that guy who lives over there at
one O seven, you better go get him, all right?
Speaking of number, what do you way? What do you
know about one O seven? I was about to say
up north of one o seventh Street, but it didn't
come out that way.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
So I was going to try.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
To smoothly transition into the easiest one, two, three four.
But that's done.

Speaker 9 (35:24):
Let's do it terrible, absolutely smoothest sandpaper. We have one
more question. Been doing great. You don't only have two l's,
so you.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Know, and it's not my fault for the two l's.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, No, you're right.

Speaker 9 (35:42):
No, you're right, because I should have I should have. Yeah,
all right, cooloo.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Something with such confidence too. That was the problem.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
She's making over a million and an n I L.
I would have thought that would be enough.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
It probably is. It probably is for this year too.

Speaker 9 (35:58):
Yeah, all right, Carrie, I feel like you should know
this one because this kind of ties to you. So
we have a lot of athletes who turn musicians. So
now here's my question. Can you name me? Can you
name me two athletes who have Grammy nominations.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Two athletes that have Grammy nominations.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Think of your athletes who are now rappers, musicians, whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
And then I actually, I actually feel.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Slighted and and a bit and a bit scared now
because I was doing mine just for the love of it.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
But now I.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Gotta actually go after Okay, I gotta go after something now, Okay,
married I didn't thank you Mary, Grammy Grammy nominations, not
Wins nominations.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Right now, I.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Feel like one of these should be pretty easy. Kobe
has an Oscar has.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
An Oscar for the documentary.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
For the documentary, which is one of those things that
feels way more related to this subject than it is.

Speaker 9 (37:03):
You know, I wasn't a athlete turned actor, but I
was like, that's too easy.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I would know that.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Too easy. Grammy nominations, all right, so I could just go,
I know Victor Oladipo is a singer, but I can't
imagine that he also.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Had absolutely not absolutely not Martin who Okay, think let's think.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Okay, like Leangelo Ball had that smash hit but recently.
But we haven't had a Grammys since that came out,
so I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I also think that there's no chance the Grammys are
going for Leange little Ball.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Well, if it sells marriage, what, it's got to be
somebody like from the past too, because it's not recent.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
If it was recent, I think it'd been a big deal.
Right Yeah, Okay, I.

Speaker 9 (37:54):
Mean still, I feel like you guys should be able
to get at least one of them.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Okay, all right, great.

Speaker 9 (38:01):
Think of think of think of your athletes who are
musicians like big.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Like you keep saying, think of the athlete musicians. I
can't think of one the athlete scientists would be the
one to win the Grammy. Yeah, no kidding. We're trying
to think of the athlete, like for sure one I
had the two. I feel like, who else who plays music?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
That's what I'm saying. What type of music do they play?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
He said something about hip hop, hip hop, Damian Lillard,
Dame Dolloway, he has, Oh, Shack, I bet Jack's got
a Grammy. I bet Shaq has one. I bet your
Shack's got one. I was just talking about this yesterday.
He does why why do you do that? Hold on?
Why do you do that? Because time it always coincides.

(38:44):
I'm sick of you the point the point I do
pointed people. No, but I think Shaq has one, because
just talk about this yesterday with God. I went to
go see Top Gun and in the movie, there's a
bunch of songs that then became popular because we're in
the movie. Shaq had movies in the ninth one of
those Shazzam Kazam whatever it is, maybe one of those songs. Okay,

(39:07):
so Sack, give me one more, Alan, I ever have
forty bars. That's but that is not exactly it. I
care what do you want to go that's more famous
forgetting we need to he said Sack. I would be
down with Sack for sure. I just thought, I have
no idea of another one. It's got to be something like,
say your category or something.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
I know, Steve, this could be a trick question because
there is a spoken word category for the Grammy. So
like Barack Obama and any number of people you wouldn't
think of with Grammy, he's probably have Grammy. So Mary
Dyala Hoya used to sing, for example, said it's hip
hop Bernie Williams of the Yankees musician, So she's.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Not hip hop. But I do know that former Pistons
backup point are Carlos Arroyo has one of the biggest
reggae taste, reggae tone songs on the planet.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's not it is not it.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm looking at the clock. Seems to count you guys
down up thirty seconds, by the way, So I.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Don't think we're gonna get this with Mary, because unless
Martin has one more, Martin.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I don't have anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I'm looking to see on Twitter page down tomorrow frase
with Ben Mallay, you guys want to go shack and
who else.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Dame Shack and Damian Lillard.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Go ahead, all right, show me shack.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah you did.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And then also Dame Lillard, there there you go. He
hain't not the buzzer. Baby Jack really got one from
one of those movies you did.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
No, No, he didn't say they won. Now that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Mark, don't listen to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Martin Wis and carry Rose coming to you live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios, Carry Roads former All Pro?
How many times? All Pro? Twice? So that's kind of
like the thing we were talking about a minute ago.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
You got it twice. Yeah, but you only have to
be an All Pro one time to be a bit pro.
All Pro first.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Team, second team doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
And that's the that part, right See I didn't ask
first team seconds.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
He doesn't matter. All Pro exactly, All Pro, Grammy winner,
Grammy nominated. This is one of those things that follows
you forever. If Jack can do it, you can do it.
I mean, yes, very much. So I feel good about
my chances eventually here. So I feel good about one thing.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
And going into this NFL season, I think when you
think about the NFL, everything is almost every year the
team goes worst to first, first to worst.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
You know, it's the parodies is you know? Is all
of that.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I feel very very confident and what I'm about to say.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Let's hear it.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
The New Orleans Saints will be picking first in the
next NBA and NFL draft. The New Orleans Saints will
have the number one overall pick. But Carrie, I think
people be surprised who may had the second. Oh, I
think they might be the Miami Dolphins. Wow.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I have no idea what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
What they are doing, and what it seems like they
are doing is setting themselves up for a disastrous season.
Like just take who was it? I forget was it?
Moster are tweeted like play like a pro bowler and
Miami will treat you like bleep. But to be honest,
John new Smith's Pro Bowl tight end out. The Dolphins

(42:30):
traded Mika Fitzpatrick what six seven years ago? Now we're like,
you know what, we want that old thing back and
got them back, and I get it. You're like, maybe
you're trying to move off with the Jalen Ramsey deal. Yep,
but here's the problem. You signed the Jalen Ramsey deal
in the first place. You got the Tyreek Hill there
deal done, you got the Wattle deal, and you know what,
you don't have any offensive line. Your quarterback takes one hit,

(42:53):
it's Fanito finished over with right the wrong way, and
we all know it to be true. Like right here
is going to be if I think they have a
legitimate shot to be the worst team in the AFC,
and I raise you an argument for any other team,
and I'm willing to hear it.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
That's a great one.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Actually, And you think the Saints are going to get
that number one pick, but I do.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
It is going to be a stone cold knockdown battle
in December between Miami and New Orleans that number one
overall pick.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
The thing about Miami which is so crazy is just
how you know, how I guess in contention, and how
good they were and how explosive they were just a
year and a half ago, right scored seventy points right,
right right, And then now to have, like you said,
no idea, like I have no idea what they're doing, Martin.
I mean you bring back Mika Fitzpatrick. Obviously for Pittsburgh

(43:51):
that was that was a situation where they couldn't get
a contract done. And I think what Pittsburgh did there
by getting rid of him and sending him to Miami
and bringing Jayalen Ramsey. There, Ramsey's gonna eventually end up
playing safety and end up taking right.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
That's that's what it.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Is, and that's really the only way that that move
really makes sense, right.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Right, So that's what I see there.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
But when you talk about Miami, man, they are gonna
be scary bad, not scary good. And I think they're
going to actually talents for that one spot for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Like I'm willing to hear arguments for others, but I
don't think that any I see Ian go ahead.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Oh no, I'm not dying to, you know, make any
specific point here. But I have the Super Bowl odds
pulled up here, looking in reverse order, and the Dolphins
are around the middle the teams that have worse Super
Bowl odds than them, So I guess you could call
that a better better odds of getting the number one pick.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Agree that's fair?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (44:50):
The Atlanta Falcons, Seattle Seahawks, the Cardinals, Cowboys, Jets, Steelers, Colts, Jaguars, Patriots, Panthers, Browns, Saints, Raiders, Giants,
and the Titans currently have the lowest Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Okay, so a few off the top of that list
that you that you just listed because I said, the
worst team in the AFC, the Titans. They had the
worst quarterback play in the NFL. And Will Levis they
put Mason Rudolph out there, Mason Rudolph and looked, you know,
I want to say, look competent, because they were bad
all year.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
But move the ball a little bit. You have cam
Ward out there.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
The Titan's gonna be better. Titans are gonna be much better.
Weaker division, you said, Cleveland, All right, Cleveland, I get
to the Seawan Watson thing out of the room and
it's MESSI in the quarterback room.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
But they're going to be better.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
They're exactly No, for sure, I believe that to be
true as well.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
All right, you said the Jets.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
The Jets cleaned house, literally fired half the actual staff,
not just the football staff, they fired half the actual staff.
Aaron Glenn I think has a mission and motivated like
he's got like a new and they're they're in on
justin fields. They're building that culture out. It's all about
building that Like to me, I think that's a team
that can win six games, seven games again, some of

(46:04):
them off of this Miami team. And then who else
did you say the Raiders Raiders. Flour is going up
with Pete Carroll.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah, they just drafted gent two Bowers is arguably the
best tight end in the league already.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
They'll be competitive, they won't win a lot of games,
so right, but we're talking about though, I think the
Dolphins will be the worst team in the AFC.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
Well, there's also the Panthers. That's there are my dark
corse playoff team.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Interesting, they are not going to be as bad as
whatever that's predicting.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I do think the Panthers will be better than they
were last year.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
The Colts are on here as well with the whole
Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
So okay, but the former Philly coordinator that's the coach
of the Colts, Yes, they were not. They were a
bad pass away from Gardner Minshew, away from going to
the playoffs, and Gardner Minshew the year after that goes
to Vegas and it's like, wait a minute, what happened? Right,
And it's like was productive with Flacco? And I think

(47:02):
the Richardson thing is more if if he can stay healthy,
He's like asking, you know, I don't know, I don't
want to make light. It's gonna be hard for him
to stay healthy. But Daniel Jones to me is a
functional backup level quarterback. And I think that that is
what they have gotten in Indianapolis over the last over

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the Stikeen era has been functional backup quarterback level play and.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
They've been able to win seven and nine games.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I don't think like none of the Psyconds quarterbacks have
been any great, any level of great.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
No.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
Two of the like two is probably better than than
Richardson or Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Right, I'm maybe I'm the only person in America who's
not afraid to say the quiet part out a lot.
But Tua is not playing seventeen games that year.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
It's not happy. He has not done it right.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
So, yeah, hasn't done it ever and it's definitely not
happening now. And you got, oh the immortal AFC East
legend Zach Wilson as his backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, I'm on you.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
I'm Miami is going to be because I do see
them finishing fourth in that division. So they're gonna be
at the bottom there. I mean, the Jet's gonna finish
I think third, second or third, and the Patriots are
right there.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
The Patriots are gonna be better. Yeah, it's gonna be
tough for the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I think if you look at just in the division, Yeah,
the Bills have obviously they have their culture established. The
Patriots are about to come out be no nonsense, knock
them around. We've seen what Rabel had built in Tennessee
and that team is desperately wishing to get back to
a level where they felt, you know what I'm saying,

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to rebuild the Patriot way. But under Rabel, and even
though Vrabel never coached under Belichick, it always kind of
felt like he was in Belichick's coaching tree to where
Tennessee kind of had a feeling of like when you
watch them play, Right played a lot of good defense.
Right ran the ball a lot. Obviously that Derrick Henry,

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you know, Jeffrey Simmons, you go run the ball to
play defense with those two guys out there, But seemed
like they played the way that the Patriots wanted to play.
The Jets, I think Aaron Glenn is the disciple of
Bill Parcells. I think if anything, the roster, their talent
level on the roster is going to be higher with
this scouting background, and I think they're gonna have he

(49:30):
coached under Bill Parcells and Dan Campbell. You think that's
not and Sean Payton, that's gonna be a team full
of some tough sbs. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
No, that's what I'm saying. The Jets are gonna be.
They got a chance to be second in that division.
And if they're second in the division, I mean they
can sneak in the playoffs. They're gonna be. They're not
gonna be a bad team this year.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
So I don't see competition in the AFC East for
this for the title of biggest stinker. You know, if
you scroll down a little bit, you get to Cleveland.
I know that a quarterback carousel. But again, that's a
really good defense. Yeah, it's a really good defense.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
And offensively, if they're able to run the ball, you know,
minimize turnovers. Again, though, I think there's probably your closest competition, uh, Jacksonville,
depending on how you feel about Duval.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Now Jacksonville. Yeah, they're in that. I think it's hands
down what you said though, it is the Saints. I
can't even really think of any other team that's worse
off right now. I mean, obviously, you know the Saints
went out and drafted their second round quarterback is Tyler Shuck.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I know him very well.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
He can play, but he's in a situation where I
thought that if they got a quarterback in there that
was ready to win and play, they would be a
different team. But they're They're so far away there that
it's not even going to be close.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
So with Tyler Shuck to me.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah again, I'm not a scared out. Nor did I
stay at Hollyden Express last night so.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
He didn't get Swater.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
But when you tell me I could take my fortieth
overall pick and draft a quarterback who has had not one,
not too but three season ending injuries at and he's
twenty five, I mean, ohn't know, Jim, I might swipe
left there. That's a long resume. That's a lot of

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red flags. That's that's a few red flags.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Martin, You want to know an interesting wrinkle to this,
not to just throw a wrench into the entire segment,
but if the Saints did get the number one overall pick,
how do you think that affects arch Manning's decision? Because
right now everyone's talking about how he is probably just
going to stay another year because at Texas, because of
how long he's waited behind Quinn yours. Sure, but if
the Saints specifically the team that his grandpa, Archie Manning, right,

(51:54):
you know, was great on, and they're sitting there, this
is the Mannings, they it's not crazy to think that
he might declare early if the Saints specifically.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Got the number one pick.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Now, you've probably watched more Tyler Shuck than anybody who's
watched any of arch Manning because you don't play.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
He's just on the bases, sitting behind quinnywers.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Is it wrong for me to say I kind of
see it with arch Manning. No, Like people like I get,
I get what you're saying. I get your question because
right now, if you asked you your and Ian is
a is a not not an NFL certified scout, but
he's he for sure is in the he's grinding tape

(52:40):
all right, he's looking at these draft prospects and all
of this.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Like I'm just wondering, man, I just like Tyler, like, why.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Would you do that? How many career ending how many
season ending injuries do you have to have before it's
a career ending injury? First of all, Tyler Shuck, And
then secondly, how many times do we see like a
year out this rant, Carson Beck is going to be
a first round pick. Carson Beck is up there with

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you know or these guys and they come out and
they have a terrible year. Are they have an average year?
And he's like, well, I'm not drafting him in the
first round. Hell Shador Sanders. If it had come out
the year before, the first year he was at Colorado,
I feel like he's got a much better shot at
being a first round pick. Honestly, I just Archie's got

(53:34):
to show me, like legitimately before I'm penciling him in
as the number one overall pick in the draft next year.
Who had cam Ward is number one overall pick in
the draft this year.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
There's a lot of hypotheticals, of course, but it's an
interesting to the point. I don't think Archie would do that. Archie,
old old Archie. Think about it.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
He kept Peyton, he is, He landed Eli where he
was him to go, got Peyton where he wanted him
to go. Listen, man, Archie knows what time it is
in New Orleans. That's a disaster, like the New Orleans
like it's two seconds on this because we got this
fourth of July weekend, the same salary cap situation is

(54:20):
so bad and it's never going to change. You know
why it's never going to change. The GM is written
into the owners will. So Mickey Loomis, who has been
the GM since I was reading the Times Picky Yun
in grade school. I remember reading headlines GM Loomis, you know,
making like Aaron Brooks was the quarterback GM. You know

(54:42):
what I'm saying, that's how long it's been. He will
be the GM. And you know what they keep doing,
extending guys like Alvin Kamara and Cam Jordan and pushing
their money down and kicking the can down the road
to the point where like the people are up at
arms in the end yea right now because they waved
and stretched Damian Lillard. The Saints are going to be

(55:03):
paying Alvin Kamara to like like Bobby Benia Day, like
that level of They're going to be paying it forever.
The same thing with Cam Jordan, same thing with Derek Carr.
Derek Carr. So no, if Archie Manning loves his child
and loves his grandchild, I just say he's gonna make
sure he doesn't land in New Orleans. That's what I'm

(55:23):
a Sainte fan. I grew up and I grew up
in the I went to all the games growing up.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I wouldn't do that to my kid.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
You wouldn't do it even if well, yeah, we know
that's we know which.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
When when Dion Sanders was talking about where he wanted
Chador to go, think about it, like New Orleans could
have used that quarter it was Remember that was the
last rumor. Remember of all the rumors, it was gonna
be here, the old Pittsburgh at nineteen. Well, New Orleans,
they might need a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Because Dion, of all the places, was like he ain't
going to New Orleans. Might have gone to Toronto. I
saw the Argon. I's got a CFL rights. You might
have gone to Toronto before New Orleans. Now you took me
back with Aaron Brooks. That's I love that.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
That was my guy. I was in the Superdome.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I was in the Superdome when Aaron Brooks threw it
backwards for the first time.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I go back man. Kyle Turley was in the superdo
Kyle Turley ripped the Jets. Kevin Mawai, I believe it.
Kevin Mawai, the center for the Jets, ripped his helmet
all the time to the stands. Yeah, well on that
time he lost his helmet. That's the type of things
that we were celebrating as Saints fans because we had
nothing else. That's hilarious, nothing else. Speaking of this one
of this other small market has very little to hang

(56:38):
on to and are praying hope against hope that the
big fellow does not ask out should he want to leave.
We'll get to that in just a minute. Martin Wis's
Carrie Roach on Fox Sports Radio. So they say you
should have a plan before you make a rash move,
and sometimes I agree, especially this time. Come to your

(57:00):
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(57:24):
mix up there, uh, but sometimes you'll have like a
team that'll make a move right and be like, oh,
how are they going to fill this hole? And then
they wait and they wait and they wait, and like
at a certain point, nothing that they do is going
to be interesting anymore. And that's kind of how I
feel about the New York Knicks oh hiring Mike Brown.
Rob had a pretty good line on Friday, Rob Parker

(57:46):
saying that they were looking for Larry Brown and ended
up closer to Charlie Brown.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
But right there, right, Kawhi Leonard, Rob Parker joke.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
But but like, honestly, like Mike Brown, he's been fired
how many times? Just a coaching year check amount got fired.
I feel like the coach of the year is just
a curse, right, Like you get you know, as soon
as you get it, you know, might as well be
I hope you're renting, not buying, right. But he's just

(58:17):
kind of and I mean this with no disrespect, He's
just a retread, just a retread. We've seen him before. Like,
he's not inspiring to me. He doesn't make me feel
that much better. To me, the biggest difference between Tom
Thibodeau and Mike Brown is the amount of hair. Yeah,
but they're like guys who worked one place got fired,

(58:39):
work another place got fired, working another place got fired.
Sure they'll raise your floor, but you fired Thibodeau because
you need to want to raise the ceiling. What is
it about Mike Brown that makes you think this is
the guy that's gonna get me seven games in the
NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Well, I'll tell you one thing about Mike Brown. His
interview process must be off the chain. He might he
must kill the interview process, right, because we do know
he's he is a talented coach. He's a guy that
you know, demands excellence from his players. Now does he
get them over the top? Will he get them to

(59:15):
the big game? We have not seen that obviously. But
Mike Brown is a guy that comes in you have
a team and a roster that's ready to win, and
you have a team like the Knicks, who you know,
we're really close to kind of climbing at hurdle and
getting to the next level and getting to the finals,
and obviously getting to the finals and having a chance
to win the finals is a big deal. So you're

(59:37):
gonna have a team that's hungry, a team that's ready
to listen to compete. You bringing the veteran coach like
Mike Brown that does have some cash a around the league. No, no, no, no, no,
he has cash a around the league with players and
he's coached. He's coached big time players that can win
as well.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
So I'm not to Lebron James.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
That's not the only person that has I mean that
he's coach, that that's a high level player.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I'm not saying he is right, but I'm saying that's
just that's like I get that Don Cheadle, Sure, Don
Cheela was an Ocean's eleven, but it's Brad Pitton George
Clooney's movie. Like, I'm not saying that that's not a
knock to Don cheap about.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Say that, Okay, And for that example, I wouldn't use
that one because Don cheadle is the better actor out
of all them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I don't want to hear. I don't want to don't
use that. Don't use that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
You're telling men is Don Cheeto's movie.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
It isn't. But he's the better actor. No, he's the
better actor.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
So you're saying you're making the comparable of these guys
in this one body of work, and you say two
are the stars or whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
That's like the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
So if you want to use that one for example,
who are the who are the star coaches in the
NBA right now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I say Steve Kerr, Say Eric Spolster, I'd say why.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Steve Kerr, Well, Steve Kirk, he inherited. He inherited a
team that was ready to win, now, so who else?
Give me an then he won with them, sure, but
I wouldn't say Steve Kerr is the reason they won.
But go ahead, so else.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I'm not going That's my point in my ear, said
Mark Dagnault. And I was like Mark, Mark Dagnault could
walk in here right now and I I would recognize
him if he had the OKC pull over.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
And this is why I'm saying making this point you
said Steve curR is a good point. I understand why
I love Steve Kerr. I think he's a good coach
as well. Players win, Coaches motivate and keep you on
the right track to win. I've seen Mike Brown step
into situations. He went and inherited a Sacramento Kings team
that didn't make the playoffs in the whole bunch of
years right, A long time he got them in the

(01:01:42):
in the playoffs, he got them fun to watch again,
like you want to like you ain't like to be
that team wasn't good enough to win at all. He
has a Knicks team right now that's good enough to
win the East, and if they get to the finals,
who knows what happens. So then I think that changes
the whole narrative on Mike Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
So people the narrative, I'm not bashing you guys are
saying that, like the Beam team was fun and great
until they got the game. Was it five of the
first round? No?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Game seven?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
No, I'm saying it was fun until game five, and
then in game five the Warriors is Steve Kerr, who
you got no use for. Apparently Kerr rand laps around them.
Then then Fox broke his thumb in game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Six, and that's the post. No, because that was the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Because Steph comes out in game seven. I'll never forget it.
Because the reporting was about how Steph had this impassioned
pregame speech about going to saying, you know, if you're
not gonna go here because they had to go play
in Sacramento Game seven, if you're not ready to get
on this bus, to stay home right, and Steph did
all that, and Steph had like a forty something point game.

(01:02:54):
Everybody else stunk. However, I believe they all got on
the bus right. So I thought it was funny that
that was like attributing it to that. But my point like,
that's you think if you think the Knicks are ready
to win the championship, I I just don't see why
Mike Brown is going to be the guy that, like,
I just don't see it. I don't see it. I
tell you this honestly, at this point, I would have

(01:03:18):
rather than hired Down Staley than Mike Brown. I would
have rather than hired Don Staley than Mike Brown. I
think it would have been a more interesting It would
have been interesting, if definitely more. He's got more bona
fides in terms of winning at a high level, in
terms of like advancing and so on. And I get
that she, uh, you know, every loft that she's ever
had has never been her fault. You know, It's like

(01:03:39):
it's always somebody else's fault. But I challenge you, It's like, hey,
you try losing once every three years. You know, It's like,
would you be a good loser? I think He's a
pretty gracious winner, right, And I just think, like I,
you talk about guys who would be down to listen,
you know what I'm saying, And then that I think
that the Jalen Brunson and Charlton Town are the un

(01:04:00):
bridges heart trying that you know, can kind of take
hard coaching. I think I would have rather if he
was gonna hire Mike Brown, I'd rather.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
SENI hire Doings.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Obviously, listen, Mike Brown isn't the sexy pick here, right,
we know that that's that's I think the whole the
whole sports world will agree with that take. But when
you talk about number one, they should not have fired,
they should not have fired him anyway, right. So I
think that's the number one thing that we should be
having the conversation about, not down in Mike Brown, because

(01:04:31):
I think Mike Brown is going to be just fine
with that team, and I do think they'll have a
chance to, you know, make it to the finals next
year with Mike Brown as the head coach. But they
should not have fired. They should not they should have
made the fire. And that's the that's the big thing here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Speaking of the NBA, the gap are this gap I
should say, I don't think it's ever been bigger, and
it's had a lot to do with, you know, a
couple of snapped the killers, but the gap has never
been bigger in the NBA. We'll get to that in
just a second, but first, Steve de Seger on everything
trending in the world of sports.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Steve, You're up, Detroit Tigers sev one again, one nothing
the final at Cleveland. Casey Mei is the winner. He's
nine and two, went seven innings in this one nothing
shutout of the Guardians, who've now lost nine in a row.
Spencer Toorklson a second inning home run. For most of
the country, it's the game at Dodger Stadium on Fox
TV right now, Houston holding on five to four over

(01:05:27):
La top of the eighth. Dodger starting pitcher sho hey
O Tani went two scoreless innings with three strikeouts. His
ERA so far is one and a half. But then
a reliever allowed four runs in the third and Houston
has led since White Sox at Colorado underway and top
of the second, it's the White Sox three to two
in the lead. Former White Sox closer Bobby Jenks died

(01:05:48):
of cancer at the age of forty four. He was
on the team's two thousand and five World Series winner.
Baltimore won in ten innings at Atlanta, nine to six.
Road wins for Boston and Arizona, the Mets beat the
Yankees twelve s. The Mats are second place in the NL,
is still a half game behind Philadelphia, which won five
to one over Cincinnati. Kyle Schwarber is twenty seventh homer. Meanwhile,

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the Yanks, who've lost six in a row, three games
back of the first place Blue Jays. Now Toronto won
its seventh straight game and eleven inning win against the
Angels four to three. Tampa Bay is three back in
that division as well, after losing six to five at Minnesota,
giving up a run in the bottom of the ninth
on a bunth single. Miami four to two over Milwaukee
with two runs in the bottom of the eighth. Milwaukee

(01:06:30):
still four games back of the first place Cubs in
the NL. Central Cubs lost at home today to Saint
Louis eight to six, as the Cardinals scored five times
in the top of the eighth. Texas at San Diego
about to start there two late games in a half
an hour, including on FS one Seattle and pitcher Luis
Castillo due to go up against Pittsburgh in the WNBA.
Two games tonight, including Golden State trailing seventy to sixty,

(01:06:54):
was seven minutes to go at Minnesota the Minnesota Lynx
trying to get to sixteen and two this and LA
won at Indiana eighty nine eighty seven, Caitlin Clark missing
a fifth straight game with a groin entry. In the
NBA's summer leagues, well, the Las Vegas Summer League doesn't
start till next week, but the opener of the San
Francisco Summer League, who went to the heat over the Spurs.

(01:07:15):
Warriors beat the Lakers, LA's Dalton connect oer of six
from three point range. Salt Lake City Summer League began
with Grizzlies getting twenty points from Gg Jackson in a
win over the Thunder ninety two to eighty number one
Jonnick Center when his fourth round match at Wimbledon, American
Emma Navarro advance a reminder. US men's soccer plays the
Gold Cup final Sunday against Mexico on Fox TV from Houston.

(01:07:39):
Today on Fox at the Women's Euros France defeated England
two to one and Netherlands shut out Wales three nothing.
Two more games there on FS one Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Back to you, Steve, you said the San Francisco Summer League.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
It's just a few days for them, and it's a
few days for Salt Lake as well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Well, that's a California Class.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Correct deal. It's at the Warriors Arena. Ah, you know,
I had heard of that because of Ronnie James last year.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
Bronnie James was a DNP for the Lakers tonight. Just
for the record, he was on the bench though I
did not see the Lakers game, but I do know
in the stat sheet he was listed as a DNP.
I had seen him in a pregame interview yesterday, I believe,
so I know he's there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I know he's with the team now. I'd also have
a question for the Laker nation in general. Is Dalton
connect Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Yeah, that really went south quickly, Like middle of the
last season.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
He was an rotation player, and I don't think that
was all him, by the way, the first twenty five
games of the season he was a rotation player, regular rank. Yeah,
fell out of the rotation a bit and then got
traded and not traded. And I don't think like he
hasn't come out with an impressive line yet, Like I

(01:09:02):
don't think I'll being hyperbolic here, Like I really wonder
like if that you know, three year college player. I
don't know how many times you transferred, but like the
idea that and maybe Carey you can speak to this
because I've no one has ever either traded wanted to
trade for me or not, right, you know, so I

(01:09:22):
don't really have but like just mentally, like you're telling me,
this kid went over. This is a kid who played
over thirty NBA games and looked like every bit of
the part. Yes, and now is going oh for six
in some of these games. I guess it's the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
But like and barely played in the playoffs of course, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
And barely played for a team that played Maxi Kleeber
in the elimination game twenty something minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
A team that did not have a full run technically
could use contributions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
And he's a healthy scratch, Like that's gotta be doing
you got to your brain's wing backflips.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Yeah, yeah, the mental gymnastics going on with him, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
You get traded.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
I guess mid season and the trade every sentence and
you come back and now you gotta walk walk back
in the locker room like everything's okay. Like there's a
mental hurdle that he has to get over. Obviously he
can score. He can shoot. I mean we've seen that
throughout his college days and the great right, and that's
the reason he got drafted right, and we even saw
parts of that during the season early on, right, Like

(01:10:23):
we know he can shoot it, that's why he was there.
It's a mental thing, man, and I think for him
playing in the summer League is going to be big
for him this game. Don't don't take too much into
this one. They're just getting there. They're just getting glad.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
He's getting time though exactly what you said, Like I
mentioned Ggi Jackson, Jalen Wells, they're getting time on the
corridor topics that got first round of a year ago
and injured for Okay, see he's getting time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Yeah, I just but those guys like topic wasn't beginning.
He was hurt all season and the Ggi Jackson, jayl
the Wells, they got time as injuries occurred for the Grizzlies,
But like still not a ton of times, but it
was like Talton the connect was like the seventh guy.
Oh Dulton Connects scored thirty multiple times last season.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Yeah, he was got He got a nickname Connect four,
so you know he was doing something well for it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Yeah he got that. No, I know he doesn't have
the national advertisements, but I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Here it was mid March. He had a thirty two
point game against Denver. That's mid March. Yeah, right then, Okay,
most of the last month he's barely cracking ten minutes on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
The court, right. It's just it's fascinating to me because
and that was also part of the argument wherever you
landed on Bronnigate after you got drafted in last year.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
But it's like, well, you know they did.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Get a guy Adulton Connector could stop on the court
and play right now, they gonna afford to take a
development pick at fifty five or fifty four or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
They're well, you know other thing, Martin and Martin Steve,
it's like once right right there in March, right, thirty
two points. Right after that hurdle of March, when things
start to get a little bit more tight and constricted,
the rotation, maybe that's part of it as well, not
just how he played.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
So you're saying it's the Thibadeau influence of a roster
last year that they actually played four and a half guys.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
There you go, Yeah, Lebron Counties too, one and a
half stude.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I tell you he get paid like to there these days.
But it's just fascinating. I find it fascinating. And it's
also one of the things that I think about as
you enter Deandree eight and into this Lakers blender of
of what's going on here, Like could a again I

(01:12:38):
am just a radio hack, but like, could a more
veteran coach have been able to reinstill some confidence in
a young player like Dalton Connect? Like could a guy
who's been around the block a little bit more?

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
And in fact, even you pausing halfway through the sentence,
could a veteran coach have I don't really care what
the rest of the sentences.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
The answer is, yeah, it's just you know, we sit
there and I get it. The JJ reddick, you know,
he got what the three seed and all of that,
But I'm just a lot, a lot a lot is
still up for debate with the Lakers that has a
lot more to do than just Lebron James and a

(01:13:21):
fifty one million dollar player option. I get that that
obviously is going to be the first, second, and third headline,
But I just like DeAndre Aiden's supposed to be. If
don't didn't connect take it off the bench for the
Lakers with JJ Reddick, I just don't know what we're
supposed to see out of DeAndre DeAndre Aid. But coming

(01:13:42):
up next, we'll go to the most litigious segment in
all of sports radioigious.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah, that's right, we will sue you. We're ready.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Coming up next, Martin Wih Kerry Roads coming to you
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. If you want
to join in on the conversation, you can hit us
up on Twitter. I'm at Martin Wise, Kerrie at Carrie
twenty five Roads. We're always here for you and listen

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like ah, like we said, George Sands says, no matter
what happened, here you go, George Sands fifty eight. It's
been a whilech to's hurd from George. No matter what happens,
DeAndre has cast himself eighton of money.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Get it, get it. That's pretty good. Get it. Here
you go. Ralph goods from last hour, Carrie, get that
perfect ten.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
You got this. We did well on one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Two, three, four, you know, like seven?

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I think, y yeah, seven? Who's counting? I was, I
didn't think, So you know what you are guilty of
not counting.

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
Oh that's the cue for the sports court. So let's
get things started. So just a little refresher on the
rules here, and this is Carrie's first time stepping into
the sports court. So I have a list of people
from the world of sports that I'm putting on trial
here in the sports Court. I'll present to you guys
their case and it's up to you, guys, the jury,
to tell me whether they are guilty or not guilty.
You guys ready, let's do it. Let's do it all right.

(01:15:09):
So first up, Jake Paul stands accused. So the twenty
eight year old recently defeated Julio Caesar Chavez Junior, making
his second victory over and aging past his prime boxer
in the past year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Remember he fought Mike Tyson recently as well.

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
The WBA, which is one of the sport's four main
governing bodies, then added Paul to their official world rankings
and he's now ranked number fourteen in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Their cruiserweight division.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
So a lot of people are pretty mad at that,
saying he still hasn't really beat a real boxer yet
that's in their prime. So Jake Paul, guilty or not guilty?
Let's start with Carrie Oh, starting with me. I was
looking over at Martin, but I'm gonna say. I'm gonna
say guilty, dumty.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I mean, Jake Paul hasn't faught anybody, man, and I'm
still really upset with him for actually duping all of
America by having that fight on Netflix with Mike Tyson.
It really irked me. I was upset that everybody was
watching it. I wish I could bang my galvel thirty
two times. And I don't know why thirty two, but

(01:16:10):
that number just came up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
You only need that eight four times to get the
thirty two.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I'll go guilty as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Look him like I'm reading this out of MMA Junkie
dot USA Today dot Com. It says Chavez Junior lost
a unanimous decision to YouTube return boxer Jake Paul. When
did the YouTube return boxer part happen? This has all
been a YouTuber. He's a YouTube return netflixer. Have you
noticed it's always been unanimous, by the way.

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
Damn all right, next dough Travis kelce stands accused now.
On a recent podcast interview Chiefs tight End, Travis Kelcey
recalled some troubles he had behind the scenes back when
he hosted Saturday Night Live back in twenty twenty three.
So the hardest part of hosting the show is the
pre show table read because he can't really read that well.
So inevitably that's made the rounds on social media, people

(01:17:08):
making fun of him and all that. So, Travis Kelsey
guilty or not guilty? We'll start with Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I'm going not guilty.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
I did not do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I'm going not guilty. Here. There's a big difference between
reading a book or reading the newspaper on newspaper article
and reading for entertainment and read like reading these ads
that we do on the radio. Big difference between those
two things.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I'm going not guilty.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Well on the contour, my friend and I'm gonna go guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
He's guilty.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
You can see it on the guilty. I think guilty
exactly if you know you can't do something and I
know you want to step outside your comfort zone. And
try that thing, practice it, or do something to better
yourself in that field. So the fact about reading, I
know you can look at a piece of paper and

(01:18:00):
actually just you know, try to get better at it
or do it a different way because that way did
not work. So I'm gonna say, if you put yourself
in that situation, get better at it to be good
at it. So guilty as we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Reading, it's fundamental, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
Next up, Nick's owner James Dolan stands a cues. So
we discussed a little earlier in the show. The Knicks
have given their head coaching job to Mike Brown before that,
though they reportedly interviewed South Carolina women's basketball head coach
Don Staley for the opening. You guys also mentioned that
it's unclear how serious of a candidate she really was,
but it's been met with mixed feelings from fans and
media like So, James Dolan, guilty or not guilty?

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Guilty after hiring Mike Brown, you should have hired Don
Stale he did that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
I'm gonna agree with you on that one. I'm gonna
say guilty, Martin, I'm I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:53):
You can see it on this smug little face guilty,
I think all right? Next up, Jeremiah Smith stands a cue.
The sophomore Ohio State receiver was recently featured in an
article by the athletics Manny Navarro, and it's Smith detailed
his hate for Martin's Michigan Wolverine, saying how crazy it
was losing to them last year and all that. He
also promised on the record in that article that he

(01:19:14):
will not lose another game to Michigan for the rest
of his time in college, which is presumably the next
two seasons before he is off to the NFL. So,
Jeremiah Smith, guilty or not guilty? Carry that was a
lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Erbits, And I'm gonna think from what I took from that,
I'm going to say he is. I'm gonna say he's guilty,
vin And I don't have much to say about it
other than he's guilty.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Listen, what do you got, Martin?

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
I didn't realize that Jeremiah Smith was dancing down the
same roads and moves correct, got to skip his eligibility
or something obviously guilty as in jail. I've never seen
it more clear case of fraud and guilt. What are
these lies? I mean, how crazy he was losing to
them last year?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
It was, right, You're right, it was wild watching Chip
Kelly run full back dive on first and ten because
you're scared the Chickens. Oh, I'll never lose another game
to Michigan. Where ever heard that before? CJ. Stroud heard
that before?

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
You know? Do your boy?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Uh? Oh what's his name? I can't remember because he's irrelevant.
Jack Sawyer chasing down the flag. You know what he said,
I'll never lose the Michigan again. Yes you will, and
it's gonna be sweet when the defending national champions going
to ann Arbor and popping.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
That's right, It is right now, Martin Weiss and Carrie
Rhoades talking to you right now doing it with Mary
the board up and he and our producer and the
venerable Steve de Sager at the Update desk broadcasting live
right now from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now, Ian

(01:20:55):
told me about an hour and a half ago, this
is carry just lets you know the sausages.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
I'll give you a lot of trust and faith on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
This here program. And to the point where came up
to me and was like in my ear about half
an hour ago. So this is how we're going to
lead the third hour. I'm looking for the story myself.
I'm trying to find it. I'm giving him a second

(01:21:23):
to pull it up. But it's very interesting trade rumor,
Oh my goodness, that he has found regarding very popular
and well known NBA player and your favorite team. No, ye,
ain't you ready? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Yeah, I'm ready. You just uh.

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
The the Athletic proposed a trade here for Lebron James
because you know, there's all these rumors.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Carry his teeth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
You couldn't see it, but I've seen that looks shake
and go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
Well, this is your Mavericks, Carri, you're especially qualified to
weigh in on this. So the Mavericks would receive in
this hypothetical trade from the Athletic. Fred Katz, By the way,
is the architect.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
The only cat that go by is Andy. But go ahead,
go ahead, keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:22:12):
Mavericks receive Lebron James and that's it. Lakers receive Daniel Gafford,
Klay Thompson and PJ.

Speaker 10 (01:22:20):
Washingtonj I'm saying, no, yeah, I want Lebron to I
want Lebron to either be in la or purgatory for the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Way he's he's he's held the NBA hostage for the
last four or five A.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Hell, no, I don't really, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Indulge in that type of conversation, but no, no for me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
But I'll give you that. But yes, no, it's it's
it's a waste of time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Everywhere Lebron goes there is some you know, success. Obviously
he's one of the all time greats, but there's always
going to be baggage. And this roster is right now,
the way it's constructed, is ready to compete and play
for a championship when everybody's healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
So but that I rather, but when everybody's healthy is
not for another what eight months?

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
That's that's kind of stretched out far. But you know, okay,
six months maybe, like we're talking about one person that's
not healthy right now. But that's no, No, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
A big If there's a drink, that's the straw. Yes,
for sure, really matter for sure, for sure unless you
think that Cooper flag, Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
That's why the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Ball handler, that is the type of guy that can
initiate your.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Offense, fulter.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
That's where I was going that gives him the opportunity
to do that. They're going to put the ball in
Cooper Flag's hands in some in Summer League alone, They've
already said he's gonna play point guard, right, so you
hit the nail.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Hit the nail on the head.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
That's why I don't want Lebron, because if Lebron comes,
he's gonna stunt Cooper Cooper Flag's growth, and I want
Cooper Flag to have the ball in his hands.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
So great point, Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Now, I was about to try to pain a hypothetical,
but there's no way it would happen. But I was
just like, if in fact, this was to occur, and
that's not, by the way, what I'm saying, there's no
way could happen because you know clearly, I'll just put
it like this. Polenka and Nico know each other have

(01:24:25):
a decent you know. I know Polinka is picking up
the phone when it rings.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
But I wonder how much the impact would be of
Like I was about to say, could Lebron play off
the ball with Cooper Flag and Anthony Davis?

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
And my thought was just.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Like, there's no way that would really happen. Well, Kyrie
comes back. I could see Lebron conceding the the ball
handling to Kyrie for sixty five seventy percent of the time, right,
which I think is when we're talking about bringing the
ball up to court, that's really what we're talking about.

(01:25:10):
Lebron gets a real Lebron's gonna get seven rebounds of
game those seven times.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Go ahead, Bro, bring the ball up the court.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Right, But we're talking about being the primary initiator of offense,
which is why I took that little mental minute for
a second and thought, there's no chance that a guy
literally less than half the age of Lebron, say more
than half the age of Lebron. How are I say
the Coop Flag nineteen, Lebron's forty, right, So Lebron is

(01:25:37):
double his age. It's a better way to say plus
a year that he's gonna just give Cooper Flag the
keys and let it rock. So I think he would
absolutely stunt Cooper Flag's growth. But my question would be like,
would it be worth a stunting a year of Cooper
Flag's growth? Right to have? Because that's been the phrase

(01:26:02):
that everybody has said. I'm not saying that carry is
just repeating everybody else but Dallas hasn't seemed that can
contend with the big old asterisk at the end went healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Yeah, I think if you make this move.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
PJ. Washington good not great. Yeah, Gafford good not great.
And also your backup you put the most part. I
put it like this, Dallas would like it if Lively
was the start, Yes, yes, okay, like Dallas Dallas. In
Dallas's mind, they want Lively to be the start. And Clay.

(01:26:40):
You want to talk about a guy in the back nine.
Clay is on the back three of the back nine, right,
and so you can still make a three or two.
But that's what you're counting on, whereas Lebron's gonna give
you what I think realistically speaking, you could expect thirty
two minutes a game out of Lebron, maybe twenty eight
minutes a game out of Lebron in sixty to sixty

(01:27:04):
five games played twenty five five and five, twenty twenty,
twenty five and five.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
He's been twenty six seven and seven since he walked
in the league.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
If he needs to be twenty five and five for
that team, they're not as good as I think they are.
And that's the point where we are with Lebron. Now,
you're right, you know he will average that easily, that's
not the question. But if he goes to that team
and he's averaging that amount of points, that team isn't
as good as as I thought they were.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
So I don't see it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Then that's why I say he's better off in LA
for that situation, that city, and that team because they
do need that from him. And so when you take
away the continuity that PJ. Washington, Gafford and Clay with
what happened, when you take him off that team, it
also makes them not as deep as they were. And

(01:27:55):
I think their depth is part of the reason I
think they're so good. I do think they have a
decent amount of depths, decent Look at Martin. Look at
their top ten. Name their top ten right now, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Can for you. I don't have I got to the top.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
I feel like I got I got Martin, So we
got Kyrie, h Clay, Cooper, A D and Derek Glavey.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
So that that's one of those is on injury reserve though.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
Well you got d Loo. But I'm going okay, so
you got Dlo. Who's gonna start? So he's definitely gonna
give he can give you fifteen out of and why
Kyrie's out and run the team that's not not in
this shie. So then you go to the to the
second group. You got Max Christie, you got uh PJ. Washington,
you got Daniel Gafford, you have Dante ExHAM. But as

(01:28:40):
somebody else in that in that spot that I can't
think of right now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
But j Hardy, the kid from Detroit. Hardy is there.
Hardy's there, Jon Hardy, I know you from Detroit. You
I forget where you went to college. You got the
you got the Twins school. You got the twin as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Oh, Cody Martin, Cayleb Martiny, got Caleb one of the
Martin twins.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Yeah, one of the one of the Martin Twins. They're
they're They're deep. And I'm missing somebody too, that's how
deep they are.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
I mean, I hear you, and I'm not discounting that right.
But I think if you talk about just one through
five in the West, I'd like Dallas better than all
five of those teams. Like if you took the Western Conference,
if I like those five teams better, I was just
say the Western Conference standings from last year, I would say,

(01:29:25):
you got the Thunder, the Rockets, the Lakers, the Nuggets,
the Clippers.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Like you like the Lakers and the Nuggets over Dallas
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
The only team that I would even debate not liking
better than Dallas right now would be the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
You like the Lakers right now better than Dallas's that's
a that's a debate, and I don't think it's a
close debate, But you feel that way.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
I don't think that gas little Russell is playing high
level winning basketball in the Year of Our Lord twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
I don't think and this is not a knock. I'm
not making fun of him when I say this, but
I don't think you can. You gotta schedule ad for
about sixty five, right, Like I think sixty five is
best case scenario, right and if anything, you get more than.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
That a bonus.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
I think Clay, like I said, I think Clay similarly.
He'll probably play, but the amount of times that I
think Clay will be a massively impact player in a rotation,
like especially in the role that you haven't played, I
would have thought, honestly, Clay might be better shooted in a
bench role coming off playing twenty minutes a night, where

(01:30:32):
for those twenty minutes we are JJ Redick style, not coach,
but player, running you off screens, running like we are
gonna run the Clay offense at the start of the
second quarter and at the start of the fourth quarter
in those bench unit against the bench units, and that
PJ is probably more versatile defender, a more connective mover

(01:30:53):
of the ball on the offensive side of things, having
him play that thirty to thirty five minute role with
Clay coming off of that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
But I still think you look at Denver, I mean Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I'd rather Houston's depth, and they just traded, Uh, your
boy can't wit more for two second round picks. I
wouldn't say the Lakers are overly deep, but I would
sad right they got a A A plus at A
at a B plus that I take over a lot
of the other lineups in this and then with the Nuggets,
the Nuggets just sneakily depending on what Jonas Valentunis does,

(01:31:26):
he decides to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Stay state side, he said he's getting out here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
I think that I think that has a lot to
do with some contract negotiations. You think so, yeah, it
was because I think, without getting to the dirty nuts
and bolts of it, he's he's over than thirty years old.
They signed into like a one year deal with a
team option, I believe, and he's like, well, I can
go get three years in Greece, knowing that this will
probably be the laft or second the last one. He's like,

(01:31:53):
you know, but I you know, let me make that
a player option for year two as opposed to a
team option for you or too. And honestly, I don't
fault them. If DeAndre Ayton can't get bought out and
get a player option, I would be like, hey, I'm
going to need a player option.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
But you know what's so funny about that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
What you just said, though, is you're taking the team
that DeAndre Ayton just signed to to be better than
better than the maths right now. So you think he's
doing something for them, right? I think that he will
play and be seven feet tall. I think that's what
a lot of what they needed.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
He's gonna get beat up by Dallas Biggs.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
But the problem will Dallas be able to get the
ball across the court. Yes, I don't believe in D'Angelo
Russell bro You don't think you get the ball across
the court.

Speaker 8 (01:32:38):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Obviously I'm not a game for see.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
I know that, But that's what I'm saying when I'm saying, like, so,
this is kind of my belief when I'm looking at teams.
I mean, it's seriously when I'm looking at really good
teams and the way that they're built, right, because obviously
in the NBA, everybody can may have a similar style
of play, but you look at the way teams are
built and you can see that there was a vision

(01:33:01):
behind it, right, Like with OKC, for example, the vision
is we have a superstar and every single player on
our team can tie their shoes without bending down.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
They have just super long arms.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
We're gonna get in every passing lane and we're gonna
outlet the ball to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Our elite scorer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Right, Houston, we are going to lock down defensively, right,
that's there. That's and so watching Houston, for example, I
thought that that's their message. They're gonna lock down defensively.
But when you're watching them, you're like, man, they could
win this style if Jalen Green was a better player, Like,
they could win this style if Dylan Brooks was a
better player. I think the Mavericks have a winning style,

(01:33:44):
but when you sit there and you watch them gay
in day out, you'd be like they could win this
styles D'Angelo Russell was a better player.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Is the way I think you're gonna eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Feel about it.

Speaker 6 (01:33:53):
Didn't heco say he's gonna want to have Cooper flag
at point guard?

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
So did Jason, And that's the point we're not You're
one hundred percent correct with the Angelo Russell. I'm not
like a huge d Angela Russell fan in the interim
right now, with the way that team is built and
the players they have, he's going to be just fine.
You're not asking him to go out and be the
Angelo Russell from the when he made the All Star
team with the nets.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
That's just not who he is. But you talk about it,
I just wow, the blinks of my eye. I feel
like that that that for the white guy whose eyes
just shake in and he blinks a bunch that I
just deleted that Angela Russell ever made it all start.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Exactly, That's my point, So like people forget that part
of it. So in being in the right situation matters.
He goes to the Lakers, right when anybody plays with
the Lakers, you're going to get the brunt of the
blame if you don't if you do anything wrong. Sure,
so that's just what it is like. So now the
stints that's on him, it seems like it's a world

(01:34:55):
wide stench. But I really think that he can go
there and average thirteen with that. I list until Kyrie
gets back fifteen whatever and five six assists and be
just fine. Then go to the secondary role once he
comes back. We're not expecting him to be the guy
that runs the ship. It's a different thing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
I just hope that that ship has not right by
the time we got back back right. You know what
I'm saying that the Edmund Fitzgerald had a great plan too.
All right, coming up next though, I tease this last hour,
we're gonna get to it coming up in just a minute.
The gap has never been bigger for one thing, I
get it, Mary Mack, You're like, what are you talking about.
I promise I'll pay it off. Give me five minutes,

(01:35:33):
five more minutes, and I promise you I'll tell you.
Coming to your life from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
You can follow us on Twitter. I'm at Martin Wise,
Carri's at Carrie twenty five Roads, So.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
This is now Carrie.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
NBA movement season, right. I've heard several arguments at the
end pushes transactions more than they do games, which sometimes
I kind of feel the same way.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
It's like, you know, guys, as the finals run, do we.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Have to talk about where is my tunner will play
next year? But I guess maybe we do, seeing as
he's not gonna be a Milwaukee Buck. Speaking of those
Milwaukee Bucks, Yannis Antetokoupo has been linked to trade rumors
due to no statement of his own. Seam said it,
so it was law for a while, but Janni's apparently

(01:36:32):
wanted out of Milwaukee. But carry, I'll ask you this,
who's the best player in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Who's the best player in the Eastern Conference? Yeah, he's
gotta be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Do you remember another time in NBA history where the
gap was bigger between the number one player in a
conference and the number two conference? Because for me, right now,
I think you go jannish as in the top three

(01:37:09):
of NBA players, okay, And I think you don't get
to another Eastern Conference player when you're listing out the
top players in the NBA until at least number nine.
Now I'm counting injuries in this you are, I'm counting injuries.
I'm talking about for next year. Jason Tatum off the list,

(01:37:32):
Kyrie's Halliburton off the list because they will not be acting,
they will not be playing this upcoming season. For this
upcoming season. Who's the second best player in the East?

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Well, I mean, the obvious choice will be Jayleen Bronson.
But I'll go I'm gonna say that second best player
in the East is gonna be Paolo ben Carroll. So
I don't think the gap is that big. I know
he's not as accomplished as those other guys are saying.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
But I'll say, but if you just ran down your
top ten in the NBA, where would Paolo ban Caro
land on it?

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
This is this hard around the spot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
But let me see, Okay, I'm not trying to put
you on just rounded out, you know what I'm saying,
just because it's is it five to ten?

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
Yeah, he wouldn't be in the top five at all. No,
So I could see Polo being around at the end
of at the end of this season, coming up around ten.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Yeah. So, but at the start of this season. That's
the point.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
That's my point. That's like, I get what you do.
It's a little projection, right, But at the start of
this year, if you run down your top ten players
in the NBA who will be healthy going forward, you're
not going to get to you might get to Jalen
Brunching by what eight?

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Right, Pallo by what? Eleven?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Twelve? You know what I'm saying. Again, this is not
knocking any of these rights. I'm just saking you look
at the Western Conference, the just the top the top
five seeds in the Western Conference last year, you had
s g A right, all right, he's up there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
You got Kevin Durant, who's now on the Rockets, right,
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
But Kevin Durant on the rock Lebron and Luca all right,
nicolea Jokic, okay, cleon Clippers, and in Minnesota, tip was
Anthony Edwards, right, and then Steph Curry with the Warriors,
like ad is what, don't I didn't know. I was
just literally going down the teams finished, that's all. Like
Anthony Davis with the Mavericks, I didn't. I just didn't

(01:39:30):
get down to ten, got it right? But Devin Booker
with the Suns, Like, that's what I'm saying. How far
down the list of great players do you get to
before you say Giannis's name and then you say the
next name in the Eastern Conference? It's so it is
a it's a it's when you say it, and he's like,

(01:39:50):
I don't want to offend these guys, but when you
actually do the exercise.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
Yeah, oh you're forgetting. You're forgetting Kate Cunningham too. Now
I didn't forget Cunningham.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
So the way you said the obvious answer was, Jalen
Brunson was like, I don't know how much of I'm
ready for an argument right here, because, especially because I
was just ticking you over the projection of Paolo ban Caro,
I do agree with you. By the end of this year,
Kate Cunningham will be a top ten player in the NBA.
Had they won that series against the Knicks, and he
he was going to have to be the guy to

(01:40:22):
be able to win that series against the Knicks, I
would have had him there. I had you know, you
can find takes of me saying out there, are we
sure Jalen Brunton is the best player of this series?

Speaker 8 (01:40:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
There's takes out there that are floating out there. But
that's also kind of my point. Kate Cunningham played his
first was it seven playoff games this year?

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
Yeah? This year?

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Yeah, and you're saying, hold on now, don't forget about
Kate Cunningham is the second best player in the Eastern
Conference by chance, no first, But he had the conversation right, yea,
and Paolo's played what fourteen thirteen played the first round
last year? First round this year?

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
Yeah? This round was this?

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
This first round this year was the one that solidified
it for me though, going against Boston. They have no
shooters on that team, and he was still able to just.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
You're not hearing I am not again. He is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Yeah, and I think that if he if he shot
like forty percent from three as opposed to what he's
more of a mid range guy. Now, I know a
lot of uh, Luca gets a lot of Carmelo cops.
To me, he reminds me of a Carmelo on the
scoring side of things, where he's like, I have my
spots and my spots.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
I'm lethal, and I don't want to shoot anywhere but
my spots.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
But it's not a problem because I get to my spots,
he's gonna get so it's like, you know, do something
about it, right, And the NBA was like analytics, Carmelo,
I will do something, but I just I just fas
it's a fascinating thing. That's why, if I'm honest, I
look at the box. It's ugly, sure, but that grass

(01:41:54):
looks like la in July out there in terms of
it is dry. The grass out there is not greener elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:42:02):
You know what's crazy. We had this whole conversation and
we named all these people and right now going into
the season, this player would be healthy and was an
MVP not too long ago. Joe el embiid, how crazy
has he fallen off the map that we haven't even
said that yet.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Again, no part of the issue is with the projection
and as you said, will be healthy at the start
of the season. However, very much light way that I
think that we both think that Paolo ban Carrol will
be knocking on the door, if not all the way
solid in the top ten. Yes, Kay Cunningham, same story
when this is all said and done, I think we
both You know, Cary, I don't like to speak for

(01:42:40):
other men. You had your own opinions. You are your
own man. But you don't think Joell Ebiid is going
to end this year healthy. You don't think that. You don't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
I cannot think that. That's why I cannot. But he
has done it because he's won MVP. So he's played
the prereck with games to win that award before one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
So it can happen. What it can happen?

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Yeah, dude, buy that mine. Y'all. Remember Angels in the outfield. Hey,
it could happen, Right, it could happen. Let's kick it
over to Steve di Seger to find out what is
happening in the world of sports.

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
Steve, So you're saying the Angels might actually win a
playoff game, Hi, it could happen. There you go, while
we're talking hoops. By the way, NBA's Las Vegas Summer
League starts next week. First day of the Salt Lake
City Summer League was today and playing right now the
Utah Jazz at home, you might say, leading sixty to
forty nine over Philadelphia mid third quarter. Now for Philly,

(01:43:45):
j and I Broom has ten points, fee j Edge
come with fifteen and is eighteen minutes on the court
for the Utah Jazz Ace Bailey seven points. Bright sense
of ball from Ohio State with sixteen we had in
the WNBA just two games LA wanted Indie eighty nine
eighty seven. Caitlin Clark missed a fifth straight game with
a groin injury. Minnesota now sixteen and two after the

(01:44:06):
home win against expansion Golden State eighty two to seventy one.
Number one Seedy Onick Center. When his fourth round match
at Wimbledon, American Emma Davarro advance a reminder. US men's
soccer plays the gold Cup Final Sunday against Mexico from Houston.
It'll be on Fox TV. In Major League Soccer, tonight,
Miami won four to one against Montreal, two goals for

(01:44:27):
Leono Messi to Major League Baseball. In late night games,
We've got a matchup of the White Sox at the Rockies.
The White Sox are ten and thirty five on the road,
the Rockies at home nine and thirty five. The White
Sox are leading six to two at Colorado. In the
top of the sixth inning. At San Diego, it's Rangers
three to two over the Padres. In the top of

(01:44:48):
the fourth, the Rangers hit the first pitch of the game,
out of the park, Josh Smith with a home run
and now they're up one. Giants lead to one at
the A's in the bottom of the second and a
late game on fs Y one right now. Pirates at Mariners,
scoreless bottom of the second, Detroit one again one nothing
at Cleveland, Spencer Torkelsen with an early homer. Casey Maiz

(01:45:08):
nine and two the winning pitcher. Cleveland has lost nine
straight games. Houston beat the Dodgers in LA six to four.
The win to from er Valdez, who had six innings,
four runs, allowed seven strikeouts. This was the game on
Fox TV for much of the country tonight. Shoey o
Tania no decision to scoreless innings on the mound, three strikeouts.
Saint Louis beat the Cubs today in Chicago, eight to six.

(01:45:30):
Wins for Minnesota and Miami. Philadelphia five to one over Cincinnati,
and the Phils are still a half game over the
Mets in the NL East. The Mets got a home
win against the Yankees twelve to six. Yanks have lost
six in a row. Carlos Rodan took the l today
and at Toronto, the Blue Jays won in eleven innings
against the Angels four to three. This despite leaving sixteen
men on base. Toronto has won seven in a row.

(01:45:53):
Baltimore won in ten innings at Atlanta nine six victories
for Arizona and Boston.

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Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
I got a question for the class.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
How much do you think it costs to get into
tomorrow's White Sox at Rockies game.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
It's gotta be like like closest to the pen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
I'd like people the weigh in what do you think
is the most expensive ticket and also the I'm sorry,
most expensive and least expensive ticket. I'm getting these numbers
off of seeking.

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
The most expensive would be thirty five and the least
expensive would be five dollars in the coupon.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Okay, five, man.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
I feel like they're.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
Shocked.

Speaker 6 (01:47:00):
Would you even be to here that they're like paying
fans to be there. That's that's any money away. No,
I bet the least expensive is like three dollars and
most expensive is like, yeah, I like the thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
I'll say thirty two just to no so different.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
You can sit right now in the dugout. Basically, I'm
like on the first baseline yelling at the ghost of
Paul Kronok wherever's playing throughout the first right. You can
get down there for two hundred and eleven dollars. But

(01:47:39):
what got me here thinking this was, I wonder if
there's a minimum spend that they make teams put on
their tickets, like unless it's like a like a specialty
like oh, five dollars ticket night. You know what I'm saying,
they're selling because who is paying fourteen dollars a ticket

(01:48:00):
to watch the White Sox in the Rockies on Fourth
of July weekend?

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
No less, it was fourteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Fourteen dollars a ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
That was the cheapest.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
That's the cheapest. I paid twelve dollars to go watch
the Angels play the Tigers. But that was in the
middle of the week, like there's a Wednesday, and I
was doing it to like avoid the traffic on the
way up. So I was like, I could sit in
traffic for an hour and a half on the freeway,
or I could spend twelve bucks and watch three schoobol
pitch right. So I was like, I'm gonna watch school ball, right, Like,

(01:48:31):
why not? At my fiance with me, it was a
good time. Yeah. After that, you know, we spent you know,
and then got up the normal amount of time it
takes after we let the traffic die out. So if
it makes me wonder, like, is there a minimum of
like twelve dollars that they must price tickets at and
this is like a two dollars bump because it's a
holiday weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
I don't know, but that sing's pretty expensive to go
watch that game.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
I would see it like five. I really think like
five dollars for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
Yeah, they really got to lower that if they want,
if they want fans consistently coming in, what.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
I'd be ready to spend twelve dollars to leave? Yeah,
Like wait a minute, Oh this is sad. Wait what
high school is this? What high school's playing right now? Oh?
The Colorado Rockies? Oh man, yikes? Speaking of yikes, And
I'm pretty sure you know I'm gonna put them out there.

(01:49:28):
I'm pretty sure this article is written by Ai Me
and Ian Dove down a deep dive on this. It
is foxsports dot com the question, who are the top
ten qbs, top ten best UB's heading into the twenty
twenty five NFL season. My initial thought was to get
up set, you know what, Let me read the list.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
Read the list.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Number ten, Dak Prescott Okay, number nine, Jayden Daniels, number eight,
Justin Herbert number eleven, Baker Mayfield number six, Jared Golf
number five, Jalen Hurts number four, Joe Burrow number three,
Lamar Jackson, number two, Patrick Mahomes, and number one Josh Allen.

(01:50:15):
This is a list of the ten best quarterbacks heading
into the twenty twenty five NFL season. And I heard
Alex and Tracy doing this earlier today on the show
before the Show Before Hours, and I saw them getting
worked up about it and being like that ten tenth
in the list, like what Jalen Hurts like Josh Allen first?

(01:50:38):
And I went and I looked a little further. They
have a top ten lift of just about everything, and
one comes out every day. I think that this is
Ai and I'm pretty sure it is Ai because how
in you're right? Mind?

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
Do you have to.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
How is it so we just have Josh Allen as
a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes today. Like I get
that he won the MVP last year, Okay, but I'm
old enough to remember the end of the NBA season
when Shake Gildess Alexander was the MVP by a huge margin.

(01:51:21):
But everybody in the world knows that Nicole Joakis is
the best basketball player that's a live today. I thought
we could maybe have this level of nuance in conversation.
But this is the problem when you take humanity out
of things, you start putting.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
Computers intool you think that's what it is that's gotta
be the.

Speaker 6 (01:51:40):
Most Like Baker being ahead of Justin Herbert, Jaden Daniels,
even Dak Prescott just feels wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
You know, it's crazy, Vicky. I don't agree with you
on that end, just on any of the three.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
And this is the thing where exactly what Martin said,
it's very it's a nuanced conversation, right, we're talking about
the best quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
And what's the title again, Martin, what's the title of
the article?

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Because that's it's Nuance again spit out by chat gpt
ale edge, who are the ten best quarterbacks heading into
the twenty twenty five NFL season?

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
And that's the thing, heading into the season doesn't mean
they're the best quarterback over them with their body of
work going into the season. I would take Mayfield over
Herbert and Dak right now, right going into the season.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Baker consistently in the playoffs, right like?

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
I would take that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:45):
So I do understand is he a like if you
were to line them up and say, let's have a
quarterback competition, who would win it? He probably wouldn't win it,
but heading into this season, I would put him, put
him ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
One moral throat, you Brock Party should be in here
in this list? Yeah? No, yeah, no, what do you think?

Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
I wouldn't have Rock Party on this list. But also
though I wouldn't have Dak on this list either, Who.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
Would you have?

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
And that's what that's what I was about to ask you,
who would you have in the list over him?

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
In that top ten?

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
John Matthew Stafford, I agree Golf is at six, which
I would I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
I would take Golf over Stafford from the season. Again,
we're not talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Yeah, John real wise, career wise, I think you got
I mean, and I think that Stafford has more talent,
of course, and I mean talent like raw athletic.

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
Just I mean Stafford.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
I saw Stafford almost his entire career in Detroit, tough
as nails, had a lot of games go the wrong way,
like but just I mean used to just get annihilated
and would get up and just late lasers to the
likes of Nate Burlason and you know Joy just lasers.

Speaker 3 (01:54:02):
He was Stepford, it is heyday. He could spin it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:54:06):
The crazy part, Like we're talking about heading into the season,
Why isn't Hurts higher. I'm not even a Hurts fan.
I mean, I'm not an Hurts fan myself, so I'm
not like advocating for it. But that's the thing, what
you're saying, like heading into the season.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
He just won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
So what happens when you let chat the articles? Hey,
listen here, I'm calling you out until you replace me
with that, I I'm calling it out. Coming up next,
we'll play a game of who you got Martin Wise.
Kerry Rhoads coming to you live from the Fox Sports
Radio Studios. Carrie.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
You know, we kind of play this game.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
It's sort of like one, two, three, four, except there's
only one person.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
It's time to play. Only one answer. Who you gott?

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
It's not Rocket side?

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
We just want to know, Just ask the questions.

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
Who are who you got?

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
All right? Who you got?

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
So?

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
I'm thinking of someone from the world of sports. It
could be a player, a coach, a GM, whatever that
just has something to do with sports. I'm gonna give you,
guys clues to try and help narrow narrow it down.
Each clue should hopefully make it easier, and by the
final clue, you should hopefully know who it is.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
So you guys, ready, yep, let's do it all right.

Speaker 6 (01:55:16):
First clue, this guy was a first round draft pick
out of college, but he was the sixth player taken
of his position.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
No, repeat the question again.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
He was a first round draft pick out of college,
but he was the sixth player taken at his position. Oh,
at his position, at his position.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
It's got to be ooh would that be Aaron?

Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
Next clue? He won two high school state championships in wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
High school state championships in wrestling, So it's got to
be a lineman a pick of the draft.

Speaker 6 (01:56:00):
No, he wasn't the sixth at his position.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Position all right, first round pick though, that's crazy. So
I mean it was five other of his position and
quarterback on linement sixth of his position unless Carrie unless
Ian is being super tricky and this guy is not

(01:56:26):
a football player at all. He's a basketball player, which
make it a lot easier for him to be the
sixth player at his position taken in the first round.
That's because that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
That's true now to but I'll say, uh, I think
the next clue will help.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Help that because it's gonna be alignment first round pick.
Wrestler who is late had to be a late first
round pick. I will go with uh. Who was the
boy that the Chiefs took Trey Smith?

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Yeah, he was laying yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:57:02):
Next, he was a four time pro bowler, one time
All Pro. But it was first team All Pro NBA. Huh,
I know it was NFL because it had to be
that that position. Like, yeah, four time pro bowler, one
time All Pro. But as we learned earlier today, would
that be as always forever he was first Pro?

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Would that be Jared Allen. No, I like that one though.
High school wrestler. Yeah, Jared Allen.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
One time I was interviewing him as they you know,
they do the Hall of Fame round up. Basically guys
are trying to get in. He rode up to the
Zoom interview on a horse.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
Yeah, I don't even okay, it was on Zoom.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
It was fascinating. Four time Pro Bowl.

Speaker 6 (01:57:50):
Next up, he had six seasons where he went for
over a thousand yards and they all came in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
Six thousand yard seasons in a row.

Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
It's okay, so not a line, it's a it's a
it's a running back then, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Could be receiver playing wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
I don't really six hundred yard seasons, thousand seasons in
a row.

Speaker 6 (01:58:15):
Next clue, he spent his entire career with the team
that drafted him.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
My goodness, Wait a minute, all right, hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
The next clue I think will help as well. Wait,
but yeah, we have a second to talk this one out.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
The second one position, he was the sixth either wide
receiver or running back taking in the first round. Yes,
six thousand yard seasons, one time All Pro, four time Pro.
So like he only had like an eight year career
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
Huh No, I don't know that. I think it was
more than that. All right, man, I did not know this,
and this is here, we are this. This might help Carre?

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Is this Jimmy Graham?

Speaker 6 (01:58:54):
No, not about yes, come on, he was drafted the
same year as Carrie two thousand and five.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Is it a tight end?

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
Oh no, it's not a tight end.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Ronnie Brown not ronn all right, kind of lack Williams.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
He was too early. He didn't have a thousand running back.

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
He had one hundred receiving yards in the twenty twelve
seasons NFC Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Game, Championship game. No, one hundred receiving yards. But he
said it like that because it's a running back. Twenty
twelve NFC Championship Game. Was that the Bears? You said
that twenty twelve?

Speaker 6 (01:59:34):
No, that would be the well, it was the twenty
twelve seasons, but the game was played January twenty thirteen.
But it was the twenty twelve NFL seasons NFC Championship Game.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
I can't even think of where was I. I was graduated
from college.

Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
Dude, I have no It was the Niners versus the Falcons.
I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Niners, Falcons, Roddy White, Roddy White boy carry Roddy White.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:59:56):
So the last few clues where he goes by a nickname,
and he was in twenty nineteen and ducked into the
Falcon's Ring of honor. His real first name is Sharad
and his nickname is my last name.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
Right of that's the tricky stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
If you would think wrestler, you think linebacker, you think lineman.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
No Arnie Span your Cris Blake up next