Martin Weiss & Monse Bolaños React to the Lions Being Eliminated, Preview the Biggest Week 17 Games & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Monty Belanos has one message, Santa Champagne would have done. Yeah,
and it seems like right now she'd rather be popping
a bottle than popping this microphone on because.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
It's been a rough day.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
I'm so annoyed. I'm sorry, I'm so annoyed.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
Like it just was, you know, the Chargers. Do they
know it's not playoffs yet? Why are they playing like this?
I thought they were only going to do when we
got to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Maybe they thought it was the college football.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Player, Like what are I'm so annoyed?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Easy for me to say, So the Chargers beat the Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
No they did not.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Chargers beat the Chargers. Yes, twenty to sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sometimes some of these things that you hear the head
coach say in the in the offseason just burrows in
my head and it just I'll never forget it.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
When I heard Jim Harbaugh say that.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Justin Herbert's biggest weakness was the people around him meeting
his level, I was like, Oh my goodness, I'm getting.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Married this summer.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
My wife doesn't talk about me like that, you know
what I mean, Like you know this, but you hear
this like it is so like, on its face, an
absurd thing to say.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
And when you watch how the Chargers have played down the.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Stretch right first three or four weeks of the season
to one of the hottest teams in football, looking like,
you know, unstoppable. Second, we're booking our tickets in the
Super Bowl, right.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
You see so often of line injuries. Joe All goes down, ver,
Saw Slater starts right.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
So you have all these different injuries, and then even
Justin Herbert, I think the injury that was the injury.
Justin Herbert broke in hand surgery back out there. Doesn't
miss a game, all right. And and then that was
the moment to me that the season was.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Over when they beat the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I know that doesn't make much sense, right, that doesn't
make much sense, but I was like, what it cost
them to get that win?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
To her roke the I mean, it was the type.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Of thing that like, thirteen year old me is like,
this is what I watched this for. When I'm watching
Justin Herbert just plow through guys, like watching him just
seemingly do things that feel like only Superman can do.
And I know he's a human. That's what we signed
up for. When we're watching sports, especially as kids. We
hear all people talk about that, like with the Bears

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and I it's just.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Been green up and what's this? Yeah right, all of
that right, That's what I signed up for, ye right.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
But then I was like, five daylyn Hurst intercept the ball,
turn the ball twice on the same play, yep. And
it was not until a very last second late in
the game like that what I was like, Man, this
Chargers team, they just don't have enough. And I felt
like today, come out, give up the big lead early right,
and they were getting pounded early easily, and climb back,

(03:26):
climb back, Cime Black. I think if if they had
played six quarters today they would have won, but unfortunately
the only played four.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
I feel like we could spend the entire three hours
talking about this game because there was so much to it, Martin, Well.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
So much more to this than any other game played
this weekend.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
You're absolutely right, absolutely right. But to what you said,
I feel like Charger fans.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
We we did not see the team that we saw
the first couple of weeks. Once Joe All went out
for the second time, I think you were just all
Charger fans meet specifically for sure, we're like, it's just
not our year because at the of the season they
everything was clicking, from offense to defense. Everything seemed to
be working for the Chargers, and then you lose Joalt
for a second time, and I'm just like, there's no

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way Justin Herbert.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Is not gonna get Killt back there. He likes to
play hero ball.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Sometimes you could say he holds onto the ball waiting
for the moment whatever, whatever, But with that O line,
I was like, there's no way he's gonna survive, then
you're right, he gets hurt, and I'm just like, there's
no way.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
But we kept winning, whether it was pretty or not.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
The Chargers were finding ways to win, which I said
earlier this week here sitting I think it was with
Dan Byer that I don't understand how Justin Herbert isn't
getting more MVP consideration just because he has managed to
keep the Chargers aflow when everybody probably put them for
dead a couple of weeks ago. And then you have
today's game where the Texans come out and score within
the ninety seconds, So if you didn't watch the first

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ninety seconds, you missed.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
The first score for Houston.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Then the Chargers did nothing, and immediately Houston goes out
and scores again. There was still eight minutes left in
the first quarter and it was fourteen zero.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
It did not seem like it was gonna be a
great game.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
So it's fourteen fourteen zero zero. How much are eight
minutes left? So four minutes going into the game, So
that means over the remainder the fifty six next minute
they didn't score.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
But six points exactly. That is something the Chargers like
to do. Play with my emotions. They like to do that.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
So they were like, no, now we're gonna play defense,
even though we let go of fourteen early points. No, no, no, no,
we're gonna play defense. Okay, great, giving me hope. Then
Justin Herbert drives downfield and he's like, I'm gonna give
this to Rondez Gadsden, and Gadsden says, my bad, you
hit my hands. Sorry, we just got a pick. They
got a pick. Right, we're knocking on the door to score.

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Like such a moment where I told you mart I
would be such a bad quarterback because at that point
I would have be like, sorry, I hit your hands, bro,
Next time, what do you want me to hit your face?
Then that happens, so we get zero points that probably
would have been likely three points or maybe not because
Cameron Dicker, who is great. No, I keep hearing it
all the time, guys, I know today he was not.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Today was his best day.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Today.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
He has had one of the best years of kickers this.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Year, yes, but not today, not on a game that
mattered so much, that had so many implications.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Not only did you.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Miss a field goal, you also missed an extra point.
So at the end when the Chargers are trying to drive.
Instead of being down three, we're down four and we
have to go for a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
But we didn't get there.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
No, no, no, because apparently they called some stupid call
when we sacked CJ. Straut on that floor it would
have been I was like, I can't believe we got
the stop.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Oh no, you didn't get the stop. Flack on the play.
I thought automatic first down.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I thought it was a safety. I thought that one
of those earlier in the game.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, I thought it was a safe. I was surprised
it wasn't surprised it wasn't. But that's what the Chargers do, Martin.
They play with my emotions, up and down, up and down,
up and down. That was this game, and it's a
perfect example of what the Chargers are.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I think it's honestly, it's that game, and like
you said, a story of what the Chargers are has
been in the capitulation of the season.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
This is a team like cold would you have thought?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Now, obviously, the Chiefs did not turn out to be
the team that many people predicted they would have been
or thought they would have been. But if I showed
you the Chargers team that played week one. Then the
Chargers team that lost to the Jaguar.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
It's like not in day right right, they were the
same jersey right right right?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
And I up in that point.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
I was joking, how you know Trevor Lawrence can only
play well against the Chargers. Jokes on me, because you
know how the Jags are doing, right, The Hags are
hot and they're about to win their division. I thought
they were left for dead too. And then no, so
jokes on me, Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
I'm sorry. I apologized him about three times this week.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Then he only plays well against the Chargers and chokes
on me.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
We have more time, we have more time.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I will say like this in that I wonder now
as you're I know you're obviously the big Chargers fan,
but if you are a Chargers fan right, just you
now you're seeing the AFC West change you've been had.

(08:03):
Justin Herbert, a guy who a lot of people think
my shelf included, you know, top ten and not ten,
but also a guy that we view as generally speaking,
someone if they were in a different or better situation,
they would not be the reason why.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
The team would lose exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Do you know what I'm saying we see a few
guys who were in spots like that, where's like, okay, well,
I see the team may not be the best, but.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
It's not necessarily his fault.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Like sure, his biggest crime is that he's not Patrick Mahomes, right,
I get it, But like, but in a different scenario,
he could be really really good, really really is really
really good in the cerea that he's in. Now, you
get that slam dunk coach. Right, Everybody wanted Jim Harbaugh.
They were people calling all around Michigan. Couldn't keep him

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to save his life, no chance. Well the big bad
Chiefs have fallen, and today the Denver Broncos with the
quarterback on the rookie deal in the second year coach,
I know, second time coach, but also second year coach
in the organization. They're the ones that are taking over
the division right now. They're the ones that took the

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division and are not just taking the division on like
the humble Carolina Panther Tampa Bay Buccaneer take the division.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
What we're talking about here.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I'll talking about taking the division and like also competing
for the one seed up until the very end of
the season.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So how do you feel well.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
The AFC definitely does not seem like there's any team
that I'm scared of, you know what. I feel like
the NFC seems to be getting stronger and stronger, while
the AFC, all the teams I look at have holes.
So you're right, am I looking forward to what happens,
maybe next season, because I know the Chargers are in
the postseason, but the Chargers are flawed. They are flawed,

(09:53):
and I don't know if they can really get to
the end the super Bowl. And if they do get
to the super Bowl, I don't know if they can
beat whoever comes out of the NFC. I'm just keeping
it real, But you're right, the future does not look dark, right.
The future still looks a little bit like there's a crack.

(10:13):
I see the light coming in and maybe it can
get even brighter because the AOC, yeah there's the Chiefs
right now, are down. And the Broncos, Yeah, the Broncos
are are are there, but they're not They're winning in
spite of Bonicks.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
They're not winning because of Bonix.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
But I just saw it makes you makes me wonder
if you feel that the team is winning in spite
like Okay, so that I I know, the opinions on
bot Nick radical uh differ radically. I'm somewhere I see
the limitations in his game, but also too like.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
He's making it work. They're winning, He's making it work.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
You know, if I'm having a quarterback competition, I'd have
him ranked kind of lower.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
But if I'm having a football game, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
What I mean, doing the job, He's doing the job.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So I just wonder, though it's very similarly with like
Drake May and New England, what did these guys put
it all together? Like Drake May is playing very well
right now, and that's ups and down throughout his career.
Some of that you want to attribute to the previous
coaching staff, some of it you want to attribute to that,
But even to this year, I feel like some of
it's been a little smoking mirrors. He's not as if

(11:19):
Drake made the third best quarterback in football?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Probably not. Is he the eighth? Probably not. He's probably
ahead of that, right, do you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So it's like it's kind of like the same boat
I put like a Justin Herbert or these guys who
are like we see obviously they have a ton of talent, right,
I will put Bonix on the back half of that.
But then when I look at the record and just
the end games, like it'd be one thing if he
wasn't showing up in fourth quarters, it'd be another thing.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
If you know what I'm saying, he's doing it.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
And the super Bowl head coach and a super Bowl
and I get I see all that. I guess if
you're asking me, just kind of like for the future,
I just am curious how next year, when we're sitting here, Markin,
how we're looking at these team is because you just
saw a perfect example the Lions. Who thought the Lions
were not going to make the postseason, not me, not me.
Who thought the Ravens would be in this position, not me.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
So you're just.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Kind of like seeing how it's hard to win and
your window, like the Lions.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Everyone's sorry about the Lions window. I don't think it's closed.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
I just think it's it's closing, sure, you know, but
they're still young.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
They're still young. So it's just like ilder, the.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Breeze is like moving it in a little bit, you
know what I'm saying, And you gotta act quickly.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
You gotta act quickly.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
And I feel like the Chargers are also lucky because
our receivers are young. We have a young team, so
it's like, again, I don't I see a little bright
spot for the future, But it's just today's Chargers game, Reid.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
So with today's Chargers loss, that means.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
That means a lot of things happened with that.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
For the first time at ten years, the Denver Broncos
are the AOC West champ.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Congratulations to them, I guess.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
For the first time in playoff I'm sorry, first time
in franchise history. The Houston Texans are headed to the
playoffs in three consecutive seasons.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think that drafts and CJ. Stroud has been a plus.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
And after one of the blockbuster trades of the year,
it's time Monci Bucking and Steve Belton lift up those
trade tables because it's time to take off the kancun
for the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Oh started the year seven and one. What a year
the trade for Sauce.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Gardner give all their picks away?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Remember Indiana Jones? Jones was that the whole thing? Philip
Rivers go back to coaching high school football.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Riley Leonard I don't know what you're gonna do, buddy,
because they got so bad at back up they said
we're going to Phil Rivers.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
We're going to Grandpa Rivers.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Instead, sauce Gardener played what games and a quarter?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Maybe something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, you know, funny stat Sauce Gardener did not win a.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Game with the Jets.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Don't say?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
And then no, I want to say he won one
game with the Colts because the Colts they started out
seven and one.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
They have eight wins now.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Right, he won one game all season? That's crazy, sauce
Gardener the personal lowest winning percentage.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
In the NFL.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
You know, I'm over here upset about the Chargers, and
then you bring up the Colt situation and who if
you're a Colts fan, that's rough.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's the rough season.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Think about it.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Indian Yo, I was on and I was on on on,
you know, the hype train for them.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I was on it.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Tyler Warren was off at the of the year.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
And now here we are, here, we are Colts are
head to kN Kun. So at this point, Philip Rivers
does he play now?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Does he play now? I mean, you know, does it matter?

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Does it matter?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
But it's like, do you put Riley Leonard out?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, honestly, I know that Riley Leonard doesn't have
the cachet to do this as a guy who's like,
you know, barely been in the NFL for two weeks.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
But I would be ready to like.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Walk out if they don't let me play. Now.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
He got to be kidding right at this point, because
you brought him in because you thought there was still
hopes of playoffs. Now that they're gone, it's me. He's
got his health, the church, yes, he's got is out there.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
I'm saying, Rady Cook is out there.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Rady Cook, he's out there.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Who has how many interceptions in like two games? Except
but he's out there. But he's out there.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
He is out there. He's out there giving it the
good fight. Shout out to Brady Cook.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You know what, who else is out there not necessarily
giving it the good fight. There's like this hot shot coach.
Everybody was like, oh, this guy got it all figured out.
And I've told the introductive press conference, I said, I
think this guy runs a little hot, and I'm not sure,
but the three F bombs he just said just gave
it to me a little bit of a sign. Yeah,
I think that heat is getting a little bit warmer

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They have a lot of control.

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I'm a huge fan of them. Yeah, I'd call in
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Speaker 4 (18:19):
I've also thought of calling in the bed.

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If I were to call in and argue with like, uh,
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or whatever.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
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Speaker 2 (18:33):
If I were to call in John, honest John's a
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And I'll have like I have a funny answer, you know.

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I just text and chime in, you know what.

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See. I thought about doing that, but it's like it's
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You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3 (19:29):
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I did not really, I was not able to fully
experience the Mallard militia until about a year ago. It
wasn't because because I used to go. I used to
have to be at work at three thirty in the Yeah, yeah, right,
it's working the dreaded morning Ship, right, So I didn't
know nothing about I was snoring as that was going on.
So now that I'm pushed back a little bit, you know,

(19:52):
let's flip these real quick and talk about Kyle winning
Here for two seconds. You're kick it over to Steve
de Seger. Looks different though, to breathe for the breouta
for our update.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
So, yeah, how do you feel about this? You got
a new coach?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
So you remember I said last week I wanted Michigan to
have to google details. Yes, so I knew who Kyle
Whittingham was. But I've had enough people text me who's
Kyle Winningham? And I feel good about this. But I
also feel good that's what.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
You wanted, Criteria.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
That's because listen, because I needed the search to be
like I never in a million years thought that Kyle
Whittingham would be the next coach at Michigan at any
point in time until December eleventh, Like did.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Like I could have seen like I could have pictured
the world with Sharon struggled, uh, Shron Moore struggled. Than
like a Kenny Dillingham would make the jump three four
years from now or something like that.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Right, Never in a million years would have thought that
this was possible.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
However, now that we are here, this is to say,
is the best case scenario. It like blows best case scenarios.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Out of the water.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Okay, this is easily like with all of the different
variables at place to get a guy winning him who's
sixty six years old, Okay, I get it. And you'll say, oh,
but what about Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll, you know
what they were doing?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Fired before they've got their new jobs.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Kyle Woodingham stepped down. I know that there was some
contention about it, but he's thirteen and twelve in his
last twenty five games. But I've paid a lot of
attention to that team because I would bet.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
On them a lot. They've had a crazy amount of
quarterback injuries.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Right, so it's like some of the things you kind
of stabilize it. And outside of that, if you look
at the list of coaches that have wins a regular
season wins with out of college football playoff appearance, he's
like third on the list all time. Jeff Brohm's on
the list, PJ Flex on the list. The other people
who were on the list could not win at big conferences.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
He was winning in the Pac twelve.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
There are the reason this whole bs exists because they
win the Pack twelve and get so he's like he
was winning as much as you could snoopong Lee was
playing quarterback today for the Baltimore Raves. We'll hear about
him just a minute from Brianna and how they're doing.
But he played for him. They have a ton of
NFL guys and more than anything, it's a phrase that

(22:16):
gained popularity over the last five years. I'm not sure
exactly how much it actually happened, but it drains the
swamp of what, by all accounts is on cesspool at
Michigan football. It comes through and drains the swamp. As
they said, here's you know, other.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Swamps still swampy.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yes, this swamp.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I feel like all the alligators, all snakes, everybody's going
to be good and gone, the swamp drained. Yeah, I
feel good about that, And I feel good about this hire,
especially with that.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
You know the other thing I like about it. I
like the fact that he worked for Erpenmeier.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Oh, look around college football, everybody running college football.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
You know what they did. They did work for Nick Sabit. No,
they worked for mine.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
It's true, that's true.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Give me that.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
I thought it was a good pickup by your by
your team because I think he's a bridge coach.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
They just want him to come and like steer the
ship and make make.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Everything just kind of like what do you mean by bridge?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Like, I just he's older, right, like sixty six. He's
sixty six.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
I think he's gonna he's there to kind of steer
ship and make everything stay afloat and be there.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
About three years.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Okay, See, Like you know.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
What I'm saying. And I know it's a five year deal.
I'm just saying, like.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
But I get that by year three May, everybody's gonna
be looking to how to move on or move around
this because he should be probably thinking about retiring at
that point. And again, I get you, I get your
point to the point that I think, though we say
a bridge, like because I've heard that for terminology, he's
like a but it's like you have a bridge quarterback,

(23:58):
for example, your bridge what back is to get to
the next guy you already have. Michigan has no next
guy that's already there. Correct, So to me, I don't
look at it necessarily as the bridge in terms of
like we're bridging you got to the next hot thing.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
This whole thing needs to be rebuilt.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yes, I'm looking at it as like we are going
to call in a grown man to come in and
rebuild this thing. And then so I'm not even looking
at the I get that it has a short shelf life,
but I'm not looking at the end because there's so
much work to do in the beginning that I'm not
even concerned about four years from now. I'm concerned about
four games from them, because four games, like game one

(24:36):
of this is going to be a disaster Bulligan Texas.
What does the first three games look like?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
First?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Okay, then we can talk about you know, but I
expect double digit wins out of a Willingham coach team
with the resources a middle school like Michigan so like,
but we as we saw through college football this year,
all double digit win seasons are not created equally, right,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's but
I do feel like at least on the record books

(25:03):
on on Saturday afternoon, you'll feel better about your team
watching them because Kyle Winningham was the head coach.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Yeah, you don't think he stepped down like when you
When I first heard the news that he was stepping
down right with the history.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
That he had at Yoututah, I was.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Taking aback and then then this hire, this hiring happened,
and I wondered if that was just all on purpose,
like he stepped down because maybe he was hearing rumblings
that maybe.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You know something that was him going yes, I think
the order of operations was a sarone got fired, and
then winning him stepped.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Down right because he was like, oh yeah, no, I'm
here exactly. Yes. When he first stepped down, I was
like why what why?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, because and this is why the other not to
you know, relitigate things. But I was like, I disagreed
with you when I said that Michigan was not a
good job. I think Michigan was one of the best
jobs that's out there. Because Kyle Whinningham wasn't going to
O U c l A. Right, what I'm saying like
he wasn't like so he like there was no reason
to step down.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
He wasn't going to like even Penn State. He's like,
I will beat Penn State at Utah, right, you know,
Like that's like that's the way in my head I
think he viewed it.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
So once that job became open, I think a lot
of players, a lot of.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
People I know this.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I know Lake Tiffin that which he has signed that
contract a couple of weeks later, not even that he
would have gone, but just that job being open changes everything.
So let's kick it over to Breonnamuro playing double duty
today editing and updating on a game too. This is
a big game for you because no one's watching this,
so Peacock with two backup quarterbacks, so like no one

(26:39):
is actually watching this, so you really got to nail it.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
It's crazy, I you know, like people really don't care
about other people's fantasy teams. Well, I'm in a championship
right now, so I am watching for multiple reasons. Like
Jayden Reid, I need Jaden Reen to go off. You
need him to go off, okay, because Cameron Dicker already
screwed me earlier.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Screwed both of us.

Speaker 7 (26:59):
Charge, yeah, and the Chargers.

Speaker 9 (27:01):
Okay, so it's actually all tied up seven two and
a half minutes left to go in the first quarter.
Derrick Henry got it started for the Ravens like a
seven yard rush, and then Malik Willis threw a thirty
five yard blow down to Christian Watson, which, like I
thought Romeo Dobbs would go off a little bit earlier
in the game, but at Christian Watson. Okay, you know,
they just have so many weapons over there in Green Bay.
So seven seven, all tied up. Like I said, two

(27:23):
and a half minutes left to go in the first quarter.
Earlier in the day, the Texans beat the Chargers at
twenty to sixteen.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
You really need to say, I know, I will that
is all I will say.

Speaker 9 (27:31):
Let's go to the college football world, just because you
guys were just.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
You know, kind of just hitting that. My God, I
shouldn't have said that, Okay.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
Anyways, in the tax Slayer Gator Bowl, Missouri is up
on Virginia seven to three, set of seven and a
half minutes to go in the second.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Quarter, and the isleta New Mexico Bowl. Is that how
you pronounce him? Why not New Mexico Ball.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I definitely know it's New Mexico.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Got that one, right, Like, yeah, okay, New Mexico Bowl.

Speaker 9 (27:58):
North Texas up on sant Diego State thirty five to
twenty two minutes to go in the third quarter, and
who needs Notre Dame because I don't a huge second
half comeback for b YU as they defeat Georgia Tech
twenty five to twenty one. And the Pop Tarts Bowl.
East Carolina beat Pittsburgh twenty three to fourteen in the
Goal Bowling Bowl, and in the NBA the Kings outscore
the Mavericks one thirteen to one oh seven, and Russell

(28:19):
Westbrooks surpassed Magic Johnson for seventh all time in assist
and then just for Moncie, Jeric Jones Junior is scheduled
to come back tomorrow for the Clippers after being out
for about two and a half months because Jalen.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Brown was dirty and went after loose ball and took
his knee out.

Speaker 9 (28:35):
Yeah, so he's coming back from here, So that's going
to totally change everything.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Three in a row, Baby deeps three in a row?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Make it four a team in LA.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
That's right, that's really sad.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
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Speaker 3 (29:04):
MONSI did you watch football or basketball on Christmas? Are neither? Oh?

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Basketball?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Basketball okay? From the like, I barely watched NFL.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Okay, there were Unstill, I wasn't super electing to anything
because it's Christmas.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Was doing Christmas stuff right, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Which is why it's a bad the NBA. You could
just have it on in the background. You can tune
in and.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Catch five minutes of good NBA action. Leave the room
and you're not gonna be upset that you missed the
next quarter. With the NFL, don't you want to sit
and actually watch it? You know what I mean, Like
you actually will sit and watch the NFL. They can't
do that on Christmas Day.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
No cuckoo birds.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
So maybe that was the issue with the Lakers because
they played a game, and I'll tell you what, I
didn't see a second d the game live.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Because again this is not going on.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I was, you know, forgetting to spending time with my family. Silly,
silly me. But when I saw these come down the
timeline I heard with JJ Reddick have to say after
the game, I'll put it to you like this MONTHI
I don't even know which one they're going to play
because there's like four or five good word pick day day, Reddick,
after the game of Christmas Day.

Speaker 10 (30:11):
The two words of the day we're effort in execution,
And you know, I feel like when we've done both
of those things at a high level, we've been a
good basketball team, and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team.
And tonight we were a terrible basketball team. And that
started legitimately right away because we don't care enough right now.
And that's that's the part that bothers you a lot.
We don't care enough to like do the things that
are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
You know, we had it, We had it.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
This is this is I always say this about you know, culture,
I always say this about a team being a you know,
a good team being a functioning organism, organism. Can it
can change like that? We don't have it right now. Again,
it goes back to what I said the other night.
It's it's a matter of making the choice, and too
often we have guys that don't want to make that choice.
And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so

(30:55):
Saturday practice.

Speaker 11 (30:56):
So.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Like all of that was in the same press conference.
Do you know what I'm saying like this, You will
not hear coaches criticize teams. They're nineteen to ten right now,
and I get it, they're not playing the ball that
want to play. But again, we're pre All Star break
that play less than forty games.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
You know what I'm saying, Like we are. The season
is not over.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Not even a little bit.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
That sounds like I bet you that Mark Dagnall has
not criticized I get, okay, pick a team that's not
necessarily the EMUKA right hard nos, guy right, very no.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Nonsense.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
He has not criticized his team that much, half that
much in this amount of time period, that is the
entire seasons worth of criticism. He's calling guys unprofessional, he's
saying guys don't care, saying guys are quitters to me.
To me, this seems like a guy who might be
a little over his skis because all of those things,

(31:52):
I shill say all of them, but a lot of
those things.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
You're supposed to be influencing and impacting.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
But he wasn't gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
We knew that JJ Reddick, the podcaster, former clipper who
never played well in the playoffs, uh, was a bit
of a hot head.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
We knew that.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
All of this is not shocking to me, And I
just want to ask JJ Reddick, when you saw your roster,
who did you think was the defensive effort guy that
was gonna lead the rest?

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Email Udoka and the Houston Rockets. They have this guy,
what's his name? Dylan Brooks?

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Sure that is the everything you want in a defensive effort.
You need one guy to inspire the rest.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
He established a culture.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
They move and wherever he goes, he takes that culture
with him. But it's contagious who on the roster?

Speaker 5 (32:45):
When JJ Reddick looks at the Lakers roster, if I'm
looking at the Lakers roster and I'm thinking Luca, Okay,
we know Luca doesn't play defense. We already know that
Lebron James hasn't played defense the last couple of years
because he get it up there and you can see it,
he just cannot keep up. Did Austin Reeves really played defense?
I'm just like, who did you look at that? You
were like, you are going to be who he rally around?
Who's going to be contagious for the rest of the

(33:08):
team and give effort on the defensive side of the
ball because you play defense, all it is is effort.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
That's all it is. And it's not.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Immediately gratifying because what do you get. What are you
get excited about about making a basket?

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Defense doesn't do that.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
So it's like, why are you surprised when you looked
at this roster? DeAndre Ayten was gonna be the guy?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
And my thing is this, I don't necessarily think that
he may be. I don't. I don't know if surprised
is like, you know.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
You're acting a little bit surprised I would say this.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
My thought is that I don't know if it's surprised
or if it's out of touch or whatever. It's the
idea that you seemingly are removing yourself from Blair, from Blaine. Yes, right,
like I understand, Like there's one thing to say, Oh yeah,
you know, we like every single how to phrase. So

(33:57):
many of the athletes and coaches will be like, it
starts with me, yes, like JJ Reddick.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
If you hear if I'm supposed to take.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Everything he says and give him no grace whatsoever, it
starts with everybody else with JJ Reddick. And if there's
an air of if you just listen to what I
was telling you to do, you'd be better off for it.
If you just followed the directions, we wouldn't be losing
so much, of course. And that's the way it feels
to me when I hear this.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Yeah, he's not acting like a coach. He's acting like
he's your parent and he's scolding you because you didn't
clean your room after he told you.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
He's not mad, he's just disappointed, Yes.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Like a parent, Like that's what he's acting like. And
it's just he didn't have.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
I mean, it's his first time coaching, and I feel
like none of this is surprising to me. I just
think he thinks he's one of the guys, and because
he was a great, you know, shooter, and for a
while he did play defense.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
It wasn't until the end and kind of you know,
you get older and you lose.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
I think like he just sees it and he's like,
I know what it takes, and you guys are not.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Doing any of it. And I don't know if that's
necessarily a bad thing.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
It's just when you do have a Lebron James on
your team, I don't know how much.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
You are really the coach here.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
You know what, I don't know what happens when the
doors are closed and they're in the locker room and
they're talking.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Is JJ talking or is Lebron talking?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, I think at this point they're both dressed to
street clothes a lot. But I think honestly it's more
Luka Doncis than anything. But either way, to me, this
just screams to be a team that has led, that has,
to your point, a ton of very dynamic and powerful personalities,
that is led by somebody who seems to get very

(35:40):
upset relatively quickly, and I don't know how that plays out.
Is a hot head makes a soft ass, As my
grandmother said, just a sports court coming up next, guilty
or not guilty, you would be the judge.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Martin Weis, Monter Beilanos, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Oh, NBA fight, NBA fight, NBA fight.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Jose Alvarado swinging, swinging punches.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Who's fifty for the Suns march?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
You've got an NBA fight, No hold on, hold on,
let me look the NBA fight right now, Phoenix Suns.
That's all. That's all that eighty seven to eighty three
NBA fight.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Jose Alvarado is gonna be guilty of throwing punches.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Mark Williams, Mark Williams, oh, Mark Williams.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Lakers, Laker for that quick right, Williams ejected.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Mark Williams ejected. Jose Alvarado, what's happening to him? Did
they send him straight to jail?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Ejected?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Straight to jail, Straight to jail. That's my sports court.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
The defense is wrong.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Sports sports court, all right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
It is the sports court, as we do every time
an NBA fight, wild.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
Wild I love that. That's like just all Mark Williams
is known for too, is just being that guy I
always a waker for half a second, He's actually not
a bad player.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
And Elizabeth Williams brother, I would.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Have reacted just like Hosale Berrado did.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
I don't blame him anyway.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Sorry, I would have swung, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
I'm with you. Yeah, I've got a list of people
from the world of sports that we're going to put
on trial here in the sports Court and going to
present you guys their case, and then it's up to you,
the jury, to tell me whether they are guilty or
not guilty.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Are you ready? Okay?

Speaker 7 (37:31):
First up, Max Crosby stands accused. So the Raiders, as
you guys know, are out of the playoffs and they'refore
starting to sit certain players you don't necessarily need to
be out there in a lost season. Max Crosby is
one of those players, and he's been playing hurt for
much of the year too. That's worth noting as well.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Here.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
The thing is, though, when the team tried to tell
him the news that he was being shut down for
the year, he reportedly didn't take it very well and
stormed out of the facility in anger. So what do
you guys think was that an appropriate response? Max Crosby
guilty or not guilty? MONSI not guilty, your runner, I have.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Cheat because it's devastating to my case.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Whoever is guilty is whoever leaked that? Why was that leaked?
I would have been Matt too. If I want to
play and you're telling me I can't play.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
What's not like next year all of a sudden, the
Raiders are good. It's like, we gotta send you for what.
I want to go and play. No, not guilty, not guilty.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
These allegations are false.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
He's a football player. Football players should play that. I
will always fall on that.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
I don't like necessarily disagree with you guys before we
move on to the next one. But it's it's pretty
standard practice around the league. Like the fact that he
would storm out and act like, you know, so affronted
that they would even suggest such a thing. It's, you know,
I don't know, he's been injured. It feels like he's
kind of okay to sit him.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
He's been hurt all year, so Frock, they've all been
hurt all year. Yeah, yeah, you want to.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
I think we all know what the Raiders are doing too.
That kind of leads us perfectly into the next one here,
because Joe Shane and John spy Tech stand a cues.
So the Giants and Raiders play tomorrow in a game
that will have serious implications for the number one overall
pick in the NFL draft. Jefford team loses this game,
guys officially takes control of that first overall pick. So
both teams have been ruling out their best players with
mysterious injuries popping up. It's pretty blatantly obvious what's going

(39:11):
on here. So that's why I'm putting both of their
gms on trial here in the sports court, Joe Shane
of the Giants and John Spytech of the Raiders. Guilty
or not guilty, Martin.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
They're both guilty. And I'll remind you of why what
do we see today? The Houston Texans close to the
playoff for the third straight year. You know why because
they got the second overall pick in the draft and
not the first one. Play the season out because you
could have Bryce Young or you could have been to
the playoffs three years in a row.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Sorry much, I know that you.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Got I love it, don't you're talking about but both
guilty bull Kevin, that's not what you want to hear.
Like going back to, for example, the Max Crosby.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Situation, if you're a Raiders fan, you know who I
want to see, Max freaking Crosby.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
He is the Raider.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
So it's like you're removing these these players when when
people what you do not want fans in the stands.
Do you just wanted to be empty? I mean, cancel
the game at this point and do a coin flip
and then decide who gets the.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Number one pick.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
Next up. Joe Burrow stands accused. So quarterbacks across the
NFL notoriously by really nice Christmas gifts for their offensive line,
who are responsible for protecting them throughout the season. Joe
Burrow's gift to his lineman this year was reportedly authentic
dinosaur bear and mammoth fossils, very unique and honestly probably
cost him a lot of money. Guys, But you look
at other teams and you've got Aaron Rodgers buying his

(40:28):
whole offensive line ATVs for Christmas, Caleb Williams getting his
guys high end designer shoes and tequila. So what do
you think here, Joe Burrow guilty or not guilty?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Moncy not guilty.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
These allegations are fault.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
You're off, you're you guys can buy your own ATVs.
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I'm with Mancy, not guilty. You're letting them go again.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
What do you get the man who has everything? Apparently
dinosaur ic? Yeah, or whatever the hell you say.

Speaker 7 (40:50):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Joe Burrow is a weird one a lot of.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
Stuff, Yeah, but I would take it.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Don're listening to Fox Sports where you go.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's why we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports radio
studios on a you know, they.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Need to come up with the term for this week.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I feel like there is one that I'm not necessarily
determined because it's not Christmas anymore and it's not New
Year's but like and in between, if you have a
real job, you're probably not working. If you're doing like us,
then you probably are.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
You know.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
I think some people are working right now. Yeah, Like
I think some people aren't working.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
If you have a real job.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
You should be mad at your boss if you're working
right now.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
I was like my sister in law, she has a
real job.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
She's like a chemical engineer, like a nine to five.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yeah, like well but yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Like she's a chemical engineer and she had to work
on the twenty six on Friday, she had off twenty
four to twenty five, and then she had a work Friday.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
What chemicals need engineering?

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Like, I don't know where she does, but she has
a real job.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah. See, like I hate to go to work Friday,
but I don't know, maybe because I went to work
for what I make, and everybody real jobs was to
work for what they make.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
I was not working that day. I actually had the
day off.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Me and Christmas. That was all I had.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
I was here Aaron Torres.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
It was a lot of fun. I'm glad. Good fun.
So you had more fun than the Lines did that day.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
I think.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
So.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
I think that's a safe.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Bet because Lines eliminated from the postseason that day, Christmas Day,
in a game in which again it was Christmas.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Full disclosure. I watched all these games.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Later, you know, after the fact, and when I went
to the NFL all whatever, the NFL dot com all
access is to watch the games that you don't say
you watched a dense replay, which is just a replay
with no commercials boil boy. I was like one of
the Vike He's gonna do something, and it's like, oh,

(42:57):
the answer is never the answer. Offensively, they are never
going to do anything. And I've with a tweet that
I saw. I wish I could remember who sent it,
but I definitely saw it.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
On the internet. And I'm not going to tie to
a credit for it now. But he said, you can
tell if you have a franchise.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Quarterback by how Brian Flores treats him. I'm sorry, Malik
Willis got hit in the face with the ball on
the snap.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
We have to watch this replay. I want.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
This is six twenty two left in the second quarter,
seventeen to seven. The Ravens have the lead over the Packers.
Both backup quarterbacks in the game. Malik Willis is in
a shotgun snap, changes the play.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
And gets head just in the face.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
And gets hit dead in the face with the ball. Now,
he was changing the play. It's not necessarily all on
Malak's fault. I'm not trying to just unpainting the picture. However,
so good you can imagine, as we said, here's the
radio host watching this game live while the ball hitting
the quarterback in the face on a shotgun snap will

(44:07):
throw off what you were thinking. Now, offensive lineman seventy five,
I'm not familiar with your work is getting evescerated on
the sideline by the Packers coaching staff in the game
seventeen to seven.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
The Ravens with the lead.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Yeah, Ravens get the ball and.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
The ball and Derrick Henry has been running like a
grown man. I think Breanna had an earlier. You got
two touchdowns ready already, and this is one of those Hey, buddy,
we you know what this is like. Everybody's called out
sick for the holidays. We're opening the same load. You
got a handle the load and Derek Henry has been
shouldering that.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
It was something similar like that for the Detroit Lions
at the start of the season.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Two coordinators out of there.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Frank Ragnow surprise retirement right before the season, and then
oh wait, Michael Parshers joins the team.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
You play week one, two weeks before you.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Play them, But delon season from the start didn't sound great.
They're efficiently eliminated. What would you give the biggest reason
as to.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Why I hate saying that it was the coordinators because
I have a hard time believing that Detroit entered this
season completely changing their schemes. Right, They're probably gonna keep
everything as similar as they could losing both of their coordinators. Sure,
I just think they had a little bit they took

(45:29):
their foot off the gas, and that was not the
Lions team we saw last year.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
But it's hard to keep.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Your foot on the gas every single game, and they
looked flat to me this year at times. I don't
think I ever said that last year, but at times
I was like, and it was like before I knew,
I thought your offense was going to carry you no
matter what, that it was gonna be a close game
no matter what, because your offense was always going to deliver.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
And the offense was.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
What I think really came up short this season based
on what we just saw last year, where it was like,
if the Lions could score seventy points on you, they
were going to I think that's not the team I
feel like I saw this year.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
So I think this is what happened with the offense
took a step back. But to me, the offense was
you can't score fifty points a game. No, You're not
not going to average that many, right, Just in the
nature of this NFL. So did the offense take a
step back, Yes, But what I think it really impacted
was defensively, their offense covered up for everything, right, So

(46:31):
when their offense took a step back, it then the
defense that started to fall apart even more and more
because they covered up in the Yeah, like that fifteen
and two team was not fifteen and two by roster.
It was by record, but not by a roster, right,
So a lot of like they the last season. Last
year they lost all those defensive starters. Things were working

(46:53):
out the way they were supposed to for the Lions.
Ball was bouncing the right way.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
This season. To me, I give you a point your finger.
It's at a lot of different places.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
You can point out at the retirement of your interior
offensive lineman.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I think that had a huge role.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
You can point in the movement of your coordinators and
guys getting and guys getting head coaching jobs here and there.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
They dealt with injuries, not that every team does, but
they dealt with injuries as well.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
And honestly, the things that we talked about them and
dealing with is how that's the cost of being good, right,
that is the cost in the NFL of being a
good team.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Nobody is asking for the coordinators for.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
The Las Vegas Raiders, you know, nobody's nobody's calling for
them right because they stink.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Nobody's calling for the coordinators for the Arizona Cardinals right now, right,
Nobody wants their.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Defensive coordinator offensive coordinators.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
They're not getting head coaching jobs because the teams are
no good.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
This is what happens when you have good teams. You
have to be able to rebound from that.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
And I think ultimately it's not their biggest problem in Detroit,
but it's the problem. And I don't know if you
could solve this problem. It may be just a fatal flaw.
The Lions have a Jared Golf problem because here's the thing.
Jared Golf, he crosses my line of if you're good

(48:09):
enough to win with him. The list of quarterbacks that
have been to multiple conference championship games is very short,
and Jared Golf is on the list. Okay, especially for
du different teams. But to me, we look at the Chiefs,
how they fell apart when Mahomes went down. How the

(48:30):
Bills fall apart when Josh Allen goes down, And I'm
not saying that the Lions wouldn't fall apart in a
They would look different if Jared Golf wasn't the quarterback.
But we see those guys even like with Justin Herbert
has done to extend the Chargers season. The Chargers, I
think it's safe to say, are not winning a Super

(48:52):
Bowl this year. We both can shit here and see
that the team five weeks in we couldn't five weeks in.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Is like that.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
That team may well in the Super Bowl if everything
plays out like it is.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Herbert's extended their season. This team, if he was this
team really.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Should miss the playoffs, right if all things considered, He's
extended their year. Jared Golf doesn't have that ability. So
then when everything is right, when everything is perfect, we
talk about Jose Herbert being a guy who, when everything
is perfect around him, if everything could ever be that way,
is a guy you could see that everything going Sky's limits,
super Bowls, whatever, MVP's whatever.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
When everything was perfect to around Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
We saw it when things were waiting for the same
kind of thing with Josh Allen, if we could get
it all together, we could see it. We've seen it
all together with Jared golf now, and I don't think
we can, Like it's got to be so right that
I don't see the ability to withstand year in year out,
year in year out competitiveness.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Now, they may be able to bounce back next year,
but year in year out, the way that it.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Happened, the way we see Mahomes and we've seen Lamar Jackson,
we've seen Joss Allen.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Wow, are the Ravens at the spot to remember? Now?
One and five without Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
I hear what you're saying, especially because I think we
sat here a few weeks ago and it just kind
of I think I mentioned if you rattle Jared Goff
even a little bit, I don't I don't know what
you're gonna get from him. He does need the time
in the pocket to make the decision. Anything that rattles him.
It seems like he doesn't know what to do. And
then there were games where I think he got in

(50:27):
his own head and kind of like spirals and never
got himself out of it. But even if you are right, Martin,
even if you are right, what can the Lions actually do?

Speaker 4 (50:42):
They're stuck a la.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
There's the solution would have to be get it all right,
build everything the appropriate way, and we saw and sometimes
the breaks just won't go your way, like we saw
the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
And I think that the Lions actually their play calling
does have a lot of benefit.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I know that people disagree with that, but like the
more aggressive dates over their play calling actually helps them
in the long run. It's just when it doesn't work,
it really doesn't work. But to me, would you rather
be successful eighty percent of the time and fail a
little bit or successful sixty percent of the time or
failed spectacularly and successful six percent of the time and
when you.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Fail it doesn't hurt so bad? Right?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
You know what I'm saying is like I feel like
that's kind of how the way the way it's kind
of viewed, at least in my mind. But the answer
for them is just to build around. But I think
the ultimately when you look at the biggest games they've
had to win, it's been on Jared Goff, like a
the NFC Championship game. NFC Championship game against the forty

(51:41):
nine ers that season, right the second half offense could
not convert in a fourth down. The divisional game against Washington,
multiple turnovers this five turnovers, the list of quarterbacks with
five turnover games.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
In the NFL. Off the top of my head. I
did it on Friday.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
It's like, in the last four years, it's Tua has
the most, Golf has the second most, Joe Flacco has
the third most. It's Toya with seven, Tour with eight,
Golf with seven, and Flacco type with someone else's six.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah, it's tough because it's you see it.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
You see that Jared Goff has been part of the
reasons why the Lions have not won games this season.
But I do think the Lions, we said it a
little bit in the first hour, their window isn't closed.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
They're young, They're a young team.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
This is the problem.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
This is a like, this is why going forward, I'm
gonna have some trouble with the Lions being you know,
I used years past, I thought that the Lions were undervalue, right,
I really did think the lines were under I think
it's fair right in terms of like who don't was
really giving them a chance. I looked at the phillies
of it all and I'm like, well, I see, Jalen
Hurts is kind of a limited quarterback. But then again,

(53:08):
look at the way the Eagles play. If you have
a quote unquote limited quarterback, and what I mean limited quarterback,
I mean your quarterback is not unlimited like to me.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Those other guys are more unlimited.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
They do not have deficiencies, right, So if you have
a quarterback that has a bit of those, you got
to surround them around others, you know, with some other stuff.
You saw the Eagles super Bowl first round exit, super
Bowl win this season. We yet to see Lions NFC
Championship game, Divisional round, miss the playoffs next year.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Yet to see.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
But the consistency we see year in year out, year
in year out comes with the quarterback. And I think
that's why you see the Lions not having it.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yeah, they're in a tough position because there's nobody better
right now for them to get over Jared Goff, right,
there isn't there's not a solution. You're you you want
to keep Jared GoF because there's nobody else better. But
he's he's in that like limbo where it's like you said,
you're not unlimited, You're a little limited.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
But how do we make success out of this?

Speaker 5 (54:14):
And I think that the really really just beef up
your offensive line a little bit help him out because
when he when he has a time, he can do it.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
And this year it just seemed like.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
He do you guys feel like this should affect how
teams look at a guy like Fernando Mendoza in the draft,
considering they're sort of like the same archetype limited mobility,
not immobile totally.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
But no, it's just a lesson that team. It's a
lesson in team building. Yeah, it's to me, it's a
lesson in team just.

Speaker 7 (54:42):
Better better make sure every other aspect of your team
is good.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Around him exactly and know that, like you.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Know the flaws of your quarterback, right.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Like like Derek not Derek mago uh, but you need
to know, Like Frank rag Now hamstring is iffy, and
I get that he did try to address this draft
and take but like, maybe you need more of those.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
You need those.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Guys more than another weapon.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Exactly, more than taking a is Tesla in the third round. Yeah,
maybe you need another defensive tackle, right, maybe you as
opposed to that because offensively you should be able to
manufacture points.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
To that point, there was always in the Penney Sewol
Jamar Chase Draft, there was always that debate Jamar Chase
or Penney Sewel For the Bengals, they opted for Jamar Chase.
Penney Sewell fell to the Lions and that's when they
really took off offensive line.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Most games with three plus turnovers last four seasons, including
the postseason two of the telling about Lowa eight nice
Jared Golf seven nice Joe Flacco six Trevor Lawrence also
six Lawrence. Lions have a two pin five record and
a minus fifty nine point differential in the seven games

(55:51):
where Jared Goffers turning the ball over three.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Or more times. Simple strategy. Yeah, you don't turn the
ball over, you win.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Now, I will say this another way to lose Monsius,
to overextend yourself, do too much.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
That just might have been what this league did on
Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
A little too much. We'll get to that in just
a minute. Martin Weis Monsey Belano's Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
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Speaker 2 (56:20):
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Willis caught the ball with his hands this time ran

(56:41):
it into the end zone for the Packers.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
That was so funny is because he wasn't expecting it,
because it wasn't like he saw it and tried to
catch it. You know, at the last second, it straight
up hit him in the face and it popped up.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
It was so funny.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Stone Cold just not looking at all so good as
the ball struck him in the face, mask and Baltimore recovered.
Baltimore weren't able to score off of that though. No,
Baltimore not able to score. I'll tell you this a
game we've only been keeping another eye like one eye.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Ye know. I don't think I would have signed up
for a streaming service if I didn't already have it
to watch this game.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Oh, I still don't have the streaming service. I haven't
done it yet.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
You I have Peacock.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
I do not, and I'm not going to so.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Ho you do Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
It's on NBC.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
So you okay, I forgot that. You got you got
to actually like channels, right?

Speaker 4 (57:37):
I told you I have real channels.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
Yes, but there are a few games that have been
just on Peacock that I have missed.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Playoffs. Last last time the Miami Dolphins made the playoffs. Yeah,
it was an exclusively screened Peacock game.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
So annoying. I'm not going to pay for this just
to wh Yeah, no, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I will say all her fault on Peacock Chef's kiss
way better than this game. In fact, if I wasn't
watching this for work, I would switch the stream over
to all her fault. I'll watched it once. That's what everybody.
I gotta watch this. This is a good ass showy go, very.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Good show on Peacock.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
On Peacock. Okay, it's worth the trial.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Okay, because I haven't even done the trial. Do they
still do a trial?

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Maybe I gotta find a trial, Okay, all.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Right, So Christmas Day you said you watched NBAL.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
I did, got up nine, was up at like nine twenty,
and put on the Cavs next game, which is so fun.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I just don't understand the NFL needing three games.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Well, they got greedy on Christmas and it backfired on them.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
It didn't quite see this is the thing that's kind
of like that's like the take is it backfired, and
like it only backfired if the goal of the NFL
is to put an entertaining game on television every time
that's on, and I don't think I think that it
should be.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
But I don't think based off the energy that we
see and based.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Off the ways that we see things happening, I don't
think that's the best goal. I think there is a
concerted effort to try to make sure that Sunday Night
will be a good game, and that like Monday Night
will be a good game every week, and then outside
of that, I think it's a crapshoot.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Yeah, obviously, the games at the start of the season
on paper looked like they could be really good games.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
It wasn't the plan.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
That we get to Christmas Day and none of the
games really mattered. And it's a bunch of backup quarterbacks
like that wasn't the plan.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Had all of them been the.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Anticipated matchups that we thought starting week one, I still
would have been annoyed that the NFL put three games
on Christmas. Sure, because again there's a big difference between
Thanksgiving and Christmas. Thanksgiving you plan to probably eat your
food with your family around a game, and you have

(01:00:06):
a room where everyone's watching the game. You have a
room where the game is probably on, but people are
talking and other things.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Are happening, but people are watching football. Everyone knows. Thanksgiving,
you're going to watch football. That is a tradition. When
it comes to Christmas, your parents are in town, you
got stuff to do. We don't have kids, but I'm
sure when you got kids.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
You got a lot of stuff to do on Christmas Day.
How do you expect me to sit down and actually
pay attention to an NFL game? So I feel like
the NFL netflix you guys, maright if it would have been.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
One NFL game on Christmas Day at the end of
the day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Five o'clock Thursday night football. Correct, Wait, a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Lot of sense.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
One game at the end, because even let's say Christmas
is not on Thursday, but yeah, they say Christmas was
on a Tuesday next year. Whatever, One game at the
end of the day, and people would have tuned in
and sat down and actually maybe paid attention. And I'm
not saying that in any way, shape or form. This
is like making the NBA take back to power. No,
the NFL is king that's there's no question about that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
NFL is king.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
But with the NBA on Christmas Day, you tune it,
you can tune in and out, you can just have
it on in the background. It's very different than the NFL.
And so I feel like maybe hopefully they look at
this and I maybe maybe three games on Christmas Day
is too much.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
That's not happening.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
I know it's not. I'm just saying like because.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Of reality, like I think we have to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I get what you're saying, and it's from the fan perspective,
and I am a fan of these leagues as well,
and I prefer to honestly not have to make the
decision because honestly, what I ended up doing was opting
out of both.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Right, It's like you're presented me with too much. I'd
rather do neither.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
H with the whole Christmas and also to the quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Of them all. Like I watched the Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I wasn't into it, but I could have been gotten
with a good game, Like you know what I'm saying,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
The day before Thanksgiving came and did a show with
Rob I think or Thanksgiving Day, and was like he
was like I'm not watching the NFL on principle, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
I don't have that principal, right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I was gonna watch whatever was the more entertaining of
the two, and then I decided that neither one was
terribly that entertaining.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
But it's just all in an effort for the NFL to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Hack away at the thing that I find to be
one of the most important things as the most important
reasons that I became an NFL fan, and I think
is the reason why the world or the United States
are NFL fans and the ways they are there's been
you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I get to this in a minute after we do
our update, right, what's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Up, guys? What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Guys?

Speaker 12 (01:02:50):
Hi?

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
So, Dereck Henry just scored his third rushing touchdown. He
officially moves into third place of all time for most
career games with multiple rushing touchdowns. Can you, guys guess
the other two? Monty can get one of them for sure?
I don't know, yes, you could.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
No, I really have all the faith in I already
hate that you put this pressure on mecause I feel
like jeopardy right now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
I don't even know what you asked me.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
What is Derrick Henry moves into third place of all
time for most career games with multiple rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
In the NFL.

Speaker 9 (01:03:22):
In the NFL, only two players are ahead of him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Multiple rushing touchdowns in the NFL. Only two players are
ahead of them. I will go with Jim Brown and
the Danny Town.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Listen, you have one of them and it is LT.
That's what That's why I will.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
I figured after you were trying to push me in
the Chargers direction, That's what I figured.

Speaker 9 (01:03:41):
But yeah, LT, Emmett Smith, Derrick Henry, EMITTT Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Does that shocked you a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
No, because Smith played so he played so long, he
played long, he played so long.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Derrick Henry though, ine touchdown, You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
That's It's gonna be fun because the stats like those
gonna matter more for like, because guys like Derek Henry
obviously we're not seeing these types of running backs no
going forward, Derek Henry, Christ McCaffrey, like guys who just
are high level eight nine, ten.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Years, guys that heavy load, those.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Those like in GAMESATS are gonna be interested how they
compared to like a guy like Emmitt Smith or you know,
to LT or whoever Jim Brown, will you name it?

Speaker 9 (01:04:21):
Yeah, So that was just something that it's actually just going.
In a halftime, the Ravens have a twenty seven lead
over the Packers. Twenty seven to fourteen lead over the Packers.
Dereck Henry one hundred and six rushing yards, twenty one
carries and three touchdowns. Tyler Huntley eighty three yards, he's
twelve or fifteen. But Malik willis actually looking pretty good
eight of eight and one rushing Touchdard one rushing touchdown,

(01:04:41):
one hundred and thirty three passing yards so far. Earlier today,
the Texans did defeat the Chargers twenty to sixteen. I
was just talking to Steve di Seger about that. He
was there and it was just not pretty for obviously
the Chargers. Last time a team started zher to three
and actually made the playoffs were actually the twenty eighteen Texans.
So it's Houston just making all kinds of history. And

(01:05:03):
then in bowl game world in college football, North Texas
on top of San Diego State forty two to twenty seven,
and then knew, oh my whole screen just went black.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
And awesome today is that the best welcome? It's so
awesome and you know what the best.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Is too, when the hosts are paying any attention whatsoever.
So you're just sitting there and you're just dangling out there.
You're just waiting, and it's like, somebody, please, Buck Fits
say something something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
What's happening?

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
You guys are so good. So I'm glad it's you guys,
I will say. In the NBA NICOLEA.

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
Jokic his sixteenth triple double so far in the season,
of course, and that's so. That is something that is great.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
That happens a place where it's news where he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
That is right. Yeah, I know, Suns of Pelicans.

Speaker 9 (01:05:45):
I heard you guys talking about Mark Williams and Jose
Alvarado both ejected late in the third quarter, and it's
Jannie's first came back between the Bucks and the Bulls.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
I don't know the score as bus are up sixty
nine to sixty eight. There we got late in the
third quarter.

Speaker 9 (01:05:58):
This is the best time, best time for my screen
to go blank when I have two anchors in front
of me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Back to you guys, because something I'm gonna punch it.
I will punch it. It's the worst because you sound
like you don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
There's no way to sound intelligent when you're reading something
and all of a sudden it is snatched away from you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Yes, you forget everything you were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Like, I'm about to read a paragraph about the iHeart app.
I've read this paragraph I don't know three times today, sure,
probably over three hundred times in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
If you pull this paper from me, moveway through, I
would be like, hey, you know what it's got presets.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Put the preset on. You know what I mean, it's
got presets, put the precepts. Do it. Do it the
streams wherever you happen to be.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Yeah, don't lose that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
With the iHeart Radio app right twenty four to seven
and the new and improves iHeart Radio app live all
day every day. Again, presets, they're right there. Make iHeart
one of them, the top one, the only one.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
This sounds like you lost the sheet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Exactly in solidarity with the screen I get. I'm all around.
I've been there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Okay, speaking of been there, we have a game coming
up this weekend in the NFC.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
One team that has been there, another team that's looking
around like we're in a new neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
This is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Oh, they pick up the trash twice a week around here. Okay,
the Bears and the forty nine ers two teams that
are buying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
For potential opportunities to get the one seat of the NFL,
which forty nine ers again a place we've been familiar
seeing Kyle Shanahan in the forty nine ers, and to
be fair, just Kyle Shanahan in the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
So we've had multiple nerations of quarterbacks throughout this and
that's no shot the Brock, but a big, major part
of this storyline is Brock pretty missing a big part
of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
And Mac Jones. You know, business as usual, right, So
that's how.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
The fort Nits are where they are today now, like
business as usual in San Francisco, a whole new renovation
of business done in Chicago because Chicago hasn't seen this
many wins in multiple seasons as they have in this year,
and at least the Mitch Trubisky Pro Bowl year. Okay,

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and that we all know how that worked out. Okay,
Ben Johnson moves to Chicago, Detroit falls apart, Chicago skyrockets
Manti at this question to the point, Look, this game
has a lot a lot of things about it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
We'll get into it after.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
For the record, I'm leaning Chicago to win this game
just because forty nine Ers defense concerns me. I think
the great coaching job, a lot of injuries, But in
terms of who wins and who loses, I can't really
come out here and definitively.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Say this is why.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
But I do know that the terms of which franchise
i'd rather be, I'd rather be the San Francisco forty
nine Ers.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Okay, all right, I think I agree with you, and
I agree with what you said. That's like, I look
at that game and I kind of also want to
take Chicago. But I think there's things that that San
Francisco was good at that Chicago is not. But there's
things that Chicago is good at and San Francisco is not,
So they're a little bit more balanced, I think, which
is why. I don't know how that's gonna end up,

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but I agree that I think I would take the
forty nine Ers franchise today over the brown or over
the Chicago Bears franchise.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Well, to be clear, I think we both would take
them over the Browns.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
Yes, but I do think I would take them over
the Bears, because I feel like with the Bears, it's
like you've had such a great season, but I'm more
curious to see how it ends and what's going to
happen next year. Can you keep the same success year
after year, which is a big question. We've seen the

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forty nine Ers keep success year after year for the
last what eight years, they've been the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Forty nine Ers and the Eagles, in no short order,
have been.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
The two most most successful, yes franchises in the NFC,
with the Rams right behind them in the last decade,
in the last decade exactly the most consistently successful. And
when you look at those teams right, obviously, it's interesting
because they both have multiple quarterbacks, Eagles have multiple coaches,

(01:10:35):
but the forty nine Ers to me, have had the
most turnover roster wise, then the like the Rams have had,
they went all in kind of subsided for a bit,
picked it back up, right, you know what I mean.
The Eagles, they've been over the last five years pretty
a lot of the same cast of characters and we've

(01:10:58):
had we just we outlined there just few minutes ago.
The thing with the Bears for me that concerns me
things are going really really well right now. And I
think that kind of like Lions before. It's like that
fifteen to two is not fifteen and two, yeah, right,
that fifteen and two record should have been for the
Lions last year, probably closer to thirteen and four, right,

(01:11:19):
just because the ball is going to bounce certain ways,
things are going to happen. The Washington Commanders last year
made the NFC Championship Game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
It felt like fool's gold from the start, right. It
was a good season going too far, and this year
they completely fell apart.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Yeah, but they're all too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
I don't think the Bears completely fall apart, but that's
my reservation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
I've seen Shanahan turn this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Over over and over and over again, different quarterbacks, different players.
The one constant really has been McCaffrey, the running back. Right,
But even when he's had seasons where he was hurt
or limited those games, you know CH's McCarey doesn't play.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
You don't just automatically expect the forty nine ers to lose.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
And the Bears this season, like you said, their record
is like, don't I don't believe this record. You've had
so many one score games that things just happen to
go your way and your defense is not great, but
you lead in takeaways and one's got to give eventually. Right,
Is it that the defense is not that good and
the takeaways have just come and you've gotten lucky? Or

(01:12:26):
is the defense better than the rankings show? But I
have I still like I look at the Chicago Bears
and I'm just like, how real are you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
And I think they are real. It's not a question
about that. I think they are like a true like
an NFC. They are one of the better teams in
the NFC. Are they a super Bowl contender?

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Year in year? Route? And is this team constructed?

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Like will they when you look at all years we
do a lot in college football? Well, would this number
one team be better than all these other number one teams?
I don't think that the Bears team is that much
better than like the Eagles last yeason or the Chiefs
before them, right to be able to tell and be
a real super Bowl contender in this year that you
have to determine both of these teams as real super
Bowl contenders because of autopsy turvy, it has been but

(01:13:17):
I think I've seen Shanahan reload over and over and
over again, lose those coordinators and be able to consistently
have that thing go. And that's when I said at
the start of the year, we'll kind of coach. Are
you Dan Campbell, You're a Kylee Shanahan or you a
Nick Sirian? Right, You're gonna be able to hire new
guys or how does that work? We don't know what
Ben Johnson is yet, but I will say this, if

(01:13:38):
I'm in Chicago right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Now, I have not felt better.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
My football team, Oh absolutely absolutely. They have the potential
to be more than just good this season. I just
I'm curious.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
I'm just you know what I mean? Are you just
lucky this season because no one expected you to do anything?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Okay? Manci up the two teams, specifically the teams who's
got more to lose tomorrow? Between the Bears and the
forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
You know who has the most to lose? I think
it's Robert.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Sala You know what, Monci following directions, We'll try that
again next up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
I'll just get it. Robert Salidz. Why do you say
he's got the most to lose?

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
I think Robert Sala wants to be a head coach again,
and so I think he's going in with the goal
to shut down Caleb Williams. Because Caleb Williams has looked good,
has had these fourth quarter comebacks.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
You know what I'm saying. I feel like Robert Sala
is going to this is gonna what's.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Gonna kind of pull him back on maybe I can
get a head coaching job.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
I feel like he's the one, the one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
I think he's already there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I think he's based off the landscape, he's already going
to get a lot of head coaching jobs. But the
most to lose right here, this is Caleb Williams. Because
it's all been great under this whole Ben Johnson thing.
Halo's completely said, it's been low. They go up against
this type of defense. Once he's on the line, there'll

(01:14:57):
be one person who they blame if loss goes bad,
and it won't be the this new quarterback that I mean,
the head coach has.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Just revitalized our city. It'll be the quarterback that was
there before.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Can I change my answer to your answer and say,
Cayleb Williams has the most to lose, but Robert Sala
has the most to game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
See, we'll play supposed to lose most of the game
coming up in just a bar by Villanos, Fox Sports
Radio coming to Your Life and the Fox Sports Radio studios, as.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Mancii said, Ooh, Malik Willis just made a nice play.
I wasn't watching. What do you do?

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
He kept the play alive and had a nice throw downfield.
He was about to get sacked and avoided it, stayed.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Up, made a nice throw downfield.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Hey, you know, the best plays start with catching the
ball from the center. So he looked like he's got
step one down.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
That was a yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Again, only keeping one eye on this backup quarterback, bawl.
That is, you had to pay fourteen ninety nine two three.
That's a tough one thirty catch the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
You have one job. I would be such a bad quarterback.
I would just be yelling at my That's also not true.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
A lot more than one job. Yeah, and that moment,
you had one job already, and you got one job.
It's time to play. More to lose and.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
You have one job.

Speaker 7 (01:16:12):
Okay, more to lose, as we do every time at
around this time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Every time, time of the time. It works every time.

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
Okay, that's right, let's try that again. As we do
around this time every week on Martin and Monsey, where
it's time to play more to gain or lose. Let's
start with this, guys in the Steelers or Browns game.
Who's got the most to gain or lose? Start with
Martin in this time, this one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I'm gonna go with Mike Tomlin as the most to
gain because you already got your winning record, You've already
had everything that say let me, you already have everything
that people make fun of you for having your winning
records in hand and all of this and that, and
I get it. Win this and it's not going to
necessarily change your playoffs at ready to that. But I

(01:17:01):
need you to go into the playoffs on a hot
streak and get.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Just one win. And you know what, the super probably
might be playing Monti's Chargers and they're beat the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
Yeah yeah, no, Listen, I think as I hope I play,
I hope we play the Steelers. To be honest with you, yes,
I agree with Martin, but I think somebody has even
more to gain. And it's Miles Garrett and the sacks record.
Oh god, come on, let's be real here, Let's be real.
He is if he gets one more, he breaks the record.
He's at twenty two. It's twenty two and a half.

(01:17:32):
That's who has the absolute most to gain because the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Could No, No, I forgot you would I forgot that
the sack record was up. I forgot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I haven't run the story today that said the Steelers
are like actively trying to let make sure he doesn't
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
I forgot yet that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:48):
Is a pretty big one here, so yes, point Monzi.
They're also schdur Sanders too, Like he's kind of fighting
for the starting job at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
I would say he's not a lot to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I think if right now today he's kind of lined
up as QB one for next year, but nobody likes
it but him, he could make it to where a
lot of people like he's not lined up in the
same way.

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
Yep, all right, Buccaneers Dolphins. Who's got the most to
gain or lose in the Bucks Dolphins game? This one
start with you MONTI.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Yeah, the most to lose? And I'm blanking on his
name right now. Todd Bowles.

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
Sorry, Yeah, I was like, hold on, let me get there,
let me get sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Todd Bowles has the most to lose because.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
The way Tampa Bay came out hot and then completely unraveled.
Even getting back your offensive weapons, you have still unraveled.
And I feel like they unraveled in the postseason last
year too. Like Todd Bowles, I feel like is losing
not control, but like he may be losing that locker room.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
I think he has the most to lose coming into
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
I agree with Monty Todd Bowles does have the most
to lose. And I'll add this is my reason why
though that roster is ready, like those that roster building
all of it and book at the start of the year,
Maker Mayfield the start of the year, Bucky Irvin at
the start of the year, and then they start suffering
some injuries and they're still able to keep things going.
It seems like it's a little deeper than that, especially

(01:19:13):
on the defensive side of the ball, which is Todd
Bowles side. You saw Mike Evans and that after he
made that catch and that game he came back, He's
like third and eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Are you effing kidding me? That's on Todd.

Speaker 7 (01:19:23):
Yep, Monty said at first, So point Moncy, next up,
Elly goles Bill, who's got the most to win? Or
lose in the Eagles Bills game. We'll start with Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Apparently Monty has the most to lose in this because
if I just go first out.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
A way, I let you go first to Ago and
you still didn't get it right with Miles Garrett, so
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
That's because I messed up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I dropped the ball myself, but I had the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
So I don't win by default. Attention, I can't all.

Speaker 7 (01:19:49):
This is Eagles, Eagles, Bills, Eagles Bills.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Sean McDermott.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
If you lose, like Sean McDermott has the most, losing
this game by one hundred percent, because this is the
rough part about it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
With the Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
You're supposed to win the Super Bowl this year, but
this is by far the team that is not like
your teams that could have won the last few years
were way better than this one. And as a result, Sean,
by not getting it done earlier in your career, not
getting it done this time is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Going to kill you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
And if you lose to this Eagles team, very flawed,
it's just going to be another knockdown the wild card wrung.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
He is correct, Sean McDermott has a lot to lose,
But at the same time, Josh Allen has a lot
to lose because I feel like it's either when when
they win and when he they win without him being.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
The guy that's James Cook, it's still like, oh well.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
Josh Allen, he's acting like he's the greatest, but he's
they don't win because of him. He can't do right.
He can't do right. But you are correct, it is Sean.
It is the most to lose is Sean mcdermotty.

Speaker 7 (01:20:49):
The point to Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
I don't like the way that she did that because
she just punted that, you know, because I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Know, but you could have made a better argument. That's
why it was Sean McDermott than I did. No, you
had it right. Don't listen, Fox Sports, I just heard
something really kind of disgusting. Hold on a second, Come
with you live from Fox Sports Radio Studios.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
You can follow us on Twitter and tweet the show.
And honestly, I want your input on this tape because
I have to say, because where was the spirit of
competition out of you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Come on, not Monzi Blagos, not the volleyball Warrior.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
I've confused.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
I'll just MASI is one of the fears. Just We
worked with multiple professional athletes here at Fox Sports Radio,
and Manzi has a spirit of competition second to none. Okay,
I've seen it in action, all right, I've seen it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I don't and for you to come for me to
hear you off the air root for a third place finish, well,
that's why.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
I give my money back. There's something I can root
for in that league. I am in a championship in
another league. But in that other league, it's one hundred
dollars buy and I get my money back if I
get third place.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
I'm not mad, you know what I'm saying. I'm just
a little disappointed.

Speaker 5 (01:22:04):
I'm disappointed to that I'm fighting for third place. I
wish it was a championship, but you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Should Your energy was a little.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
Too, Yeah, because it's for third place, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
But it's third places. It's just second behind first, first, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
Trust me, I'm upset about it. I'm upset about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Okay, Okay, this is the this is the upset I
thought would be happy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
I'm upset about it. But what am I gonna know?
All I can do is win third place in that
one and walk away with bronze and my money back.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
I was just you know, I wouldn't even know what
third place looks like because I lost in the first
round the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
So here you are, honest, you know what I am.
I'm the Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Last two years championship game. Blow it this year, not
even close.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Not even you lost in the championship game last last season.
That's the worst. That's the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
It was New Year's Eve and Aaron Jones and the
Packers were playing the Vikings, and the Aaron Jones and
the Packers were playing the Vikings, and somebody named Patrick
Taylor came in and played the whole fourth quarter for
Aaron Zones, and I lost by a point. No nobody

(01:23:19):
cared about your fantasy team, Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
They care more about your picks.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
So let's make some heartbreaking one point I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (01:23:28):
Okay, that's right. Let's make some picks. To update from
last week. Moncey, Week sixteen, you went four and two,
you went three and three. Not a bad week for
either of you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Moncey.

Speaker 7 (01:23:41):
Overall, you're forty four and thirty four, Martin forty one
and thirty seven. So I say it every week, but
guys still anyone's game here on the season, So.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
I have been every anyone's game every week. This week
you kept it close.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
For Week seventeen, let's start with this.

Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
The Jacksonville Jaguars are going to Indianapolis to take on
Old Nan Rivers and the Colts. The Jaguars are favored
by five and a half points here. Let's start with
Martin on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Road five and a half point favorites. Are we sure
Philip Rivers is playing?

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
I know that's the good question, because now that it
doesn't matter, I'm one. We kind of briefly said this
in the first hour, wondering if it's gonna be Philip
Rivers now that they are officially out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Of the playoffs. But I I don't know. That's a
great question.

Speaker 7 (01:24:25):
I feel like it's him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
But I did Chase Steike.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
You said I didn't call him to set him on
the bench, So true, I mean, what put himself through this.
I'll put it to you like this, it's got to
be They've got to be expecting Philip Rivers to be
the starter, because if Riley Lenos started this line.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Will be thirteen and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
I'm taking the Jaguars. This is gonna the wheels fall
off Sunday. It all falls apart, like the whole idea.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Oh no, maybe they should bring it back next year. No,
go coach high school, Philly boy, It's done.

Speaker 5 (01:24:55):
I have a hard time believing that that Philip Rivers
is not going to get a win out of any
of the starts. So I'm going to take the Colts
to cover because I think I'm not saying.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
I'm picking them as my underdog pick.

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
I just have a hard time believing that he's not
gonna get a win, Philip Rivers, So I'll take.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
The I'll take the Colts to cover.

Speaker 7 (01:25:14):
I will say, there was that video of him, uh
you know, directing traffic at the line, made some audibles
and that was that was pretty cool to actually see
the first game back.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
On his first game. I think he did it.

Speaker 7 (01:25:24):
Yeah, that was his first one back, all right. Anyway,
Next up, the Seattle Seahawks are going to Carolina to
take on the Panthers. The Seahawks on the road are
favored by a touchdown seven points here, So we'll start
with you this time, Manti, who you got listen?

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
I just the Seahawks have won some good games the
last two weeks, but they haven't looked that pretty, you
know what I'm saying, Like the I test isn't great
in the last two weeks, but they've won.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
Sam Donald is one.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
I just think the Panthers are going to make this
a lot more difficult.

Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
Bryce Young's calling to monks, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
You know what I'm saying. I think they're gonna make
this a lot difficult.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
Although I will also say I don't think the Seahawks
play down to their division. I don't think they take
anyone for granted. So they're they're well coached. But I
just think the Panthers are gonna give them a run
for the money. So give me the Panthers to cover.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
I'm gonna take the Panthers to cover here as well.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
But it's mostly because Seattle has been lights out on
the road. And I think that this Panthers team is
probably a little undervalued by the national public, right, Like,
when you think about them, they think probably like I do.
They took Bryce Jong within the first over, and there's
been nothing happening since. Right, There's been a lot more
than nothing happening this year, all Right, there's a lot
of interestings going on there. The Panthers kind of play

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a weird brand of football. They throw the ball a
lot against teams that don't throw them. They don't defend
the pass well. They run the ball a lot against
teams that don't defend the run well. I know that
sounds weird, but it makes sense. They stay you know
what they do. They game plan, So I'm gonna go
with the Panthers to keep this one closed. I do
think that they would think they lose here, though, I
think seven points too much.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
Yeah, the absolute marquee matchup of the week, it's the
Hank Bowl. The Giants are favored by two and a
half points over the Raiders. We mentioned it earlier in
the show. Both of these teams are doing everything they
can to lose this game. They're resting all their starters here.
But who you guys got in this game? I guess
I'm essentially asking who you think loses and ends up
with the first overall pick, but I am asking technically

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who wins this game. The Giants again are favored by
two and a half points. Marton, who you got?

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Lane Kiffen in the booth at the Kinders Texas Bowl
As LSU and Houston are getting at it. I looked
up for a minute. I was like, wait, what's happening,
all right? Who loses the loser Bowl? More to gain
Pete Carroll for sure, more to lose, my captor, because
this might be the last time we ever hear your

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name besides being a Northwestern quarterback and a hot offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Give me the Raiders. They're the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Raiders to cover.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
You have them, You have them covered. I have the
Raiders to cover.

Speaker 7 (01:27:55):
So the Giants get the number one pick. You're saying, yes, you.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
Know what, I feel like, Jackson Dart is gonna want
to put on a show and not he may have
another concussion by the end of the game, but I'm
gonna take the Giants to cover.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
That's something that Monsi says, and like, my first instinct
is to laugh. But when you've been checked for that
many concussions in that few games, it's more like saying
Christian McCaffrey might score a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Like it's something that just could very well happen. Happens
all the time.

Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Next stup, let's get to an actual, very entertaining game. Here,
the Philadelphia Eagles are going to Buffalo to take on
the Bills. The Bills at home are just favored by
a point and a half here though, so you got Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
I think I've taken it to Eagles.

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
Woo.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
I do think it'll be close. I do think it'll
be close.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
I think I think the Eagles here because I see,
especially with the Jalen the Jalens out there, Phillips and
Carter uh Not Hurts, he plays the other side of
the ball. I think that they'll be able to kind
of corral josh Alla and we've seen this is my
biggest fear, that is a two score Philly lead with
about seven Leves in the fourth quarter, because that's where

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josh Allen is putting a rocket on his back and
just flying through the sky and doing all types of
incredible things.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
I think it'll be I think the Eagles get this
one done. Though.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Give me the Bills, Give me the Bills.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
I think the Bills see that they have a real
opportunity to get out of the AFC, and they're gonna
use the Eagles game as their last one before going
into the playoffs. Like next week, I think they play
the Jets. I want to say the Bills do, and
so no offense to your Jets. I just think the
Bills are not free win. They're not gonna take that
one serious. They have to take this one seriously.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
But I think the I think Buffalo has to win,
and they have to win convincingly to convince themselves that
they still have a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
The Eagles have a chance. Everybody already knows that. You
know there's a chance for the Bills. I feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
You can lose hope with the Bills if they lose
to the Eagles on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Counterpoint, you said everybody knows that does aj Brown know that?

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
It's a measuring stick game for both teams for sure?
But last one here, the Sunday night game Bears at
forty nine Ers. It's in Santa Clara. The forty nine
Ers are favored by three points here by a field goal.
Start with you this time, Ansie.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
Who you got I honestly don't know. Yeah, this is
a tough one. It's a tough one for many. You
have it at three. I thought it was three and
a half. Since you have it at three, I have
it at three. Okay, okay, okay, okay, man, give.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Me the forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
I just think it's gonna be a lot for Caleb Williams.
I think so, but I also could see them winning. No,
I don't know this one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Give me the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Yeah, I'm a I'm gonna go with the Bears. D
bear hemmy Bears. You know what, the forty nine ers.
They don't rush their pasture at all. I think Caleb
Williams have all the time in the world. Back there,
Swift and that Mann guy, that Steven Browner out of
the well, they'll run the ball right down.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
He throws.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Nope, spread war and no Nick Bosha Robert Sala head
coaching interview, give me he Bears far work out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
It's the wrong song. Bear Down started thinking the Lion's song.
I think the Bears.

Speaker 7 (01:31:29):
All right, let's move over to atomic dogs. All right,
So atomic dogs. Just to let all the listeners know
who may be listening for the first time here, an
atomic dog is every time or every every week at
this time. Why I'm having trouble with that sentence today,
Every week around this time on Martin and Monci, we
pick an atomic dog, which is an underdog we're picking
to win outright in their game. So not not picking

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against the spread here. It's just an outright winner. And actually, guys,
it's a special occasion because Week sixteen, last week, first
time ever both of you guys you're atomic dog.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Ye who we have? That's right?

Speaker 7 (01:32:07):
So Martin, you had the Titans over the Chiefs that
hit big time, they destroyed them. Manzi had the Jaguars
over the Broncos, also hit big times. Yeah, that was a
nice job.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Guys.

Speaker 7 (01:32:16):
See if you can follow it up with the second
time in history that you both hit atomic dog. So
for Week seventeen, who you guys got will start with Monzi.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Listen, I know this is crazy. I know it is.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
I know it's crazy because they beat the Rams and
they lost to the Saints.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
Give me the Panthers to win at home against the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
I actually really liked this pick.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
It was one of the ones that I was going
to pick, but I was leaning towards you. But I've
made a practice this year of picking terrible teams to
not be terrible, and it's worked out terribly for me.
So you know what, why not go right back? Because
I've heard way too many good things. I've heard way
too many way too many good things about this team,
which I listen, they stink they do not have.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
The quarterback in the future, and I get they're spunky.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
They're trying a little bit harder and MONCEI scrolling to
see if she can guess who it is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
That's act. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Give me the Tennessee Titans to win and back to
back weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Jack all Right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Interram head coach cam Ward buck Rising said this today,
cam Ward the only starting quarterback in the NFL to
take every snap for his team. I think that's probably
true because there's a lot of guys who haven't been hurt,
but Tennessee has not been leading enough to take a
knee or to bench the starting quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Maybe today, maybe tomorrow will be the opportunity. But I
just know this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
I saw today that somebody redrafted, uh, Todd McShay redrafted
the most recent draft at Tyler Schuck being the number one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Overall pick, Like we have lost all context.

Speaker 7 (01:33:55):
I listened to that McShay show. He said it like
very much, as like this is a hot take thing.
It's not like it should be consensus now. But yeah,
it's not some agreed to take.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
So he heard that really good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
All seven touchdowns to five interceptions. I know you can't
get it anywhere, right, a second round pick. And this
is a team that was supposed to be awful.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
They are awful.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
You're still awful, right, But he's overcoming it so needs
to look decent, not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
To say overcoming it is a strong, strong claim. That's
why I will take the tennesse Desights to get their
fourth win of the year. I heard people talking another
who else was it something? Christmas week? My regular listening
schedules are all awful whacks listening all types.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Of something listen to. Somebody told me Tyler suffer for
Offensive a year.

Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
Okay, that's crazy, Yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:34:47):
Who would win it though, the Offensive? Give me someone
else who deserves it over him. I'm not saying he's
necessarily my pick, kind of falling off. Tyler Warren's falling.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Understand why you know what I've made my pick? He
turns the musical. But this is why you know why
Amica Obuka and Tyler Warren and you're you want to
throw cam Ward whoever has fallen off throughout the year.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Because they play it all year. Tyler shucks played what
six games?

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Fair? Fair?

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Yeah, what is this the NBA? We're just giving awards away?

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Yeah, it seems that way off.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Of GINDI look, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
I like a long shot as much as anybody because
when it hits, it feels great.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
But come on, folks, come on, folks.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
I feel like Tetoa McMillan could get it.

Speaker 7 (01:35:36):
I get he did, he could. He's got a good case.
The case the guys, it feels like every year it's
like like last year was brock Bowers versus Jayden Daniels,
the year before was Pookinakua and CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Stra.

Speaker 7 (01:35:45):
There's always guys that have like a real claim in
this year it's like someone, please when this someone?

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
Yeah, like the ones that started off hot have cooled off.
Like you said, they've played and their teams are now
not great.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
I don't hate Team Ack at all, but I would
just also add him to the list of people who
should win it over time.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Tyler Suck, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
For sure, for sure because he's actually played the entire season.
Tyler Shuck has had recent success and good for him.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
I good for him. I don't I think the Saint
swinch tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
But whatever, what are the current odds as we speak.
Excuse me said six days ago t Mac with minus
two hundred. You know, I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Tyler Schuck being plus three, Tyler Schuck being plus three
fifty and Traveon Henderson being thirteen to one is insanity.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
What are we even doing?

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Like seriously, like I don't know what the potential solution
could be to this MANCI, but like I to agree
that quarterback is the most important position in football, very
much like starting pitcher on that day is the most
important player on the baseball diamond. However, if you're like

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there's some level of like, you know, like for the Dodgers,
they're starting pitching wasn't the best option, you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Saying, Like we'd like to win games scoring eight runs
because we know we're gonna give up six. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
We'll rather have a big bat at shortstop than it's
like I'm just hypothetically speaking, right, we rather score more points,
Like there are multiple ways to win football games, and
like I'm just I'm really frustrated with the idea that
we can have a guy who has played like this
article is a week old, but it he says, In fact,
only New Orleans Saints quarterback Tyler Shuck appears to have

(01:37:29):
a real chance to pass mec Melon. Over the last
two weeks of the regular season, Mecca Book has been incredible. Yes, yes, right,
I get second half of your fallo up, but incredible.
The first half of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Tyler Warren has been incredible until Philip Rivers wasn't his quarterback?

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Right, it's for me, I'm getting nine know what grinds
my gears.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
It's more like, like you said, a participation trophy.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
It's like if nobody, if there's nobody to win the award,
don't give it out.

Speaker 7 (01:37:57):
But then in fact there is, don't get it out,
but like there is though like there is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
I'm sorry that there's not like like there are several
candidates deserving I will like we talked about are they
gonna be the best offensive Rigie of the year ever?

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
No, But like Tyler Shuck has throwing two more touchdows interceptions.

Speaker 7 (01:38:18):
What about this? What about we actually consider giving it
to like an offensive lineman. Oh, like this feels like
the year for that. You got guys like Will Campbell
on the Patriots, who's been awesome, Kelvin Bank on Banks
on your Saints, Martin he's been really good on the Jets.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
Quite honestly, I would have him, Yeah, I like that.
I would have.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Kelvin Banks above Tyler Shuck for Offensive of the Year odds.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
Yeah, but that's a good point.

Speaker 7 (01:38:40):
I don't think that's some terrible take. I think that's valid.
It's been great.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
There's people screaming at the right now right literally turns off.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
I don't think that's a terrible take. I mean, Tyler Shuck,
he might be great. He might be he might be
Offensive of the Year.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
Laughable, laughable because he hasn't played the whole season, which
makes perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Even that can sell a mount because.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
I think that year that they're in question with Pooka
and CJ, one of them didn't play and Pucka was
like on the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Verge of the chieving record.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I think CJ might have missed a game or something
like that or didn't, but either way, it was just
I get the quarterbacks the most important players. But you
know what, right here, I'm sitting there looking at a
game with playoff implications on the line. Neither team that's
are starting quarterback, and guess what, they still played it.

Speaker 7 (01:39:28):
And left tackle is one of the most important positions too,
like I have been not a quarterback. It's left tackles
up there absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
So speaking of quarterbacks, apparently there's been high level drama
with one of them from an opinion piece in a
local newspaper. Those words used to matter a lot more
twenty years ago. They still matter today in this city,
on this time, and coming up next we'll get into it.
What's the drama with one of these two teams playing

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right now? Actually, what's the what's the real tea going on?
And in the heart we'll get to that coming up next.
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Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Coming up shortly, and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
He'll set the table here on this and then we'll
kick it over to Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Just just set the table for everything. That's Rob Gaz.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
All right, So we'll set the table on this and
kick it over to Steve to say for the update,
and then after that we'll actually answer all the questions.
All right, So I'll do the Rob GM pressure. All right, Well,
Robert Calvin.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
The Baltimore Son had a report that came out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
So Baltimore Son opinionist wrote in column that, uh, you've
all seen it by now.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
You've heard You've heard it everywhere. It's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
It is, uh, you know, making newspapers fun again with
the Lamarr Jackson is apparently sleeping in meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
Our has fallen asleep in a meeting.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
The team has to adjust their practice schedule because he
doesn't want to practice in the morning. He's not doing
enough to take care of his body, according to the columnist,
and all these other different things. As we're sitting here
watching the Ravens run their way to a three point lead.

(01:41:27):
I'm not going to step all over Steve, but this
has been a running back show for Baltimore. After the update,
we will dive into just all of the things that
is dealing with the quarterback in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
But if you missed any today's show you want.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
To catch the podcast to search Fox Sports Radio where
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Search Fox Sports Radio or to get your podcast, you'll
find today's show post it right after we get off
the air. Let's kick it over to Steve the Seger
for this update on this Peacock game.

Speaker 12 (01:41:59):
Steve, Hello, and you are not kidding about the running
from the first drive tonight for the Baltimore Ravens, and
they wound up with a twenty to seven lead late
in the first half at green Bay. It's now early
in the fourth, twenty seven to twenty four. The Ravens
are leading, but they are in field goal range looking
for a little more. No Lamar Jackson in this game,

(01:42:20):
out with a bruise back. Tyler Huntley the quarterback fifteen
of nineteen for just ninety seven yards, passing Derrick Henry
on the ground twenty nine carries one hundred and sixty yards,
three touchdowns, and we still have ten minutes to go,
and apparently Baltimore they're going to look at this. Apparently
Baltimore has just scored on a touchdown pass to Zay Flowers.

(01:42:43):
If that holds, it could be thirty four to twenty
four for the visitors. A Baltimore team that comes in
at seven and eight, barely hanging on for playoff possibilities
for green Bay Tonight quarterback Jordan Love not playing at
home out with a concussion. Malik Willis, who's had a
bad shoulder since last weekend, sixteen of nineteen, two hundred
and seventy two yards and a score, not a whole

(01:43:05):
lot on the ground. Eleven total carries for the team,
seven of that from the quarterback for green Bay. The
touchdown does count. It is thirty four to twenty four
Ravens lead with ten ten to play at green Bay.
The Packers entered with a record of nine to five
and one. Houston Texans are eleven and five. Chargers fall
to eleven and five in LA. The Texans clinched a

(01:43:27):
playoff spot with a twenty to sixteen victory, and the
LA loss clinch the AFC West Crown for Denver. They
still have a chance for the one seed in the AFC.
The Broncos Houston led fourteen to nothing early on two
long TV passes. Sunday on Fox TV Philadelphia at Buffalo.
Bill's quarterback Josh Allen is due to play despite a
foot injury. He practiced fully on Friday. Patriots running back

(01:43:49):
Travon Henderson cleared concussion protocol. He'll play Sunday, but two
New England wide receivers are out, including Mac Collins, who
was placed on IR. The Raiders place defensive end Max
Crosby on injured reserve. He'll reportedly need knee surgery. RAMS
wide receiver DeVante Adams is doubtful for Monday night with
his bad hamstring, and ramsgard Kevin Dotson out with an

(01:44:10):
ankle injury. We have eight bowl games on this Saturday
in college football. There are two going on right now,
mid fourth quarter of the Gator Bowl. Nineteenth ranked Virginia
still leads thirteen to seven over Missouri, and early second
quarter of the Texas Bowl. Texas Bowl is in Houston
and twenty first rank Houston is losing to LSU Tigers

(01:44:34):
fourteen to seven, although Houston is driving earlier in Orlando.
Number twelve BYU beat Georgia Tech twenty five twenty one.

Speaker 7 (01:44:41):
The New Mexico Bowl was.

Speaker 12 (01:44:43):
Won by twenty fifth rank North Texas forty nine forty
seven over San Diego State at Annapolis, East Carolina wins
against pitt in a battle of eight and four teams
twenty three seventeen. The final Pittsburgh committed five turnovers. Penn
State was a Yankee stadium beating Clemson twenty two to ten.
Penn State led six to three to start the fourth quarter,

(01:45:03):
Army over Yukon at Fenway Pack forty one sixteen, and
Fresno State won the Arizona Bowl in Tucson eighteen to
three against Miami of Ohio. In the NBA, Orlando defeated
Denver one twenty seven, one twenty six despite a triple
double from Nikola Jokic, who had thirty four points, twenty
one rebounds and twelve assists. Sacramento, which was seven and

(01:45:25):
twenty three, got a win over Dallas one thirteen, one
oh seven, Cooper Flagg twenty three points, Anthony Davis of
the MAVs due to miss a few games with a
string groin. NBA wins for Utah and Phoenix, wins for
Brooklyn and Miami. Houston got thirty points from Kevin Durant
and beat Cleveland, and that leaves just a couple of
games still going. In the NBA, the Hawks are up

(01:45:47):
with thirty seconds left one twenty five, one twenty four
over New York despite thirty six points from Carl Anthony Towns,
and it looks like the Bulls game is done. Milwaukee
has won at Chicago won twelve one oh three.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Back to you, thanks Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
And you know what, speaking of that Milwaukee and Cago game,
is this another NBA fight?

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
This is more of an NBA disagreement.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
Yeah, game seems old.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Bobby port mad happy.

Speaker 4 (01:46:12):
Bobby Porters is ready, He's mad.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
My lip reading skills have diminished as I've gotten older,
but I just know this. Not happy, Yeah, not happy
at all. Lesley Matthews weighing on it now on the
postgame show.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
My god, I haven't seen him in forever.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
You bet you didn't recognize who that was.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
I did it until you said, I was like, that
is him?

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
There you go? All right now? It was all good
just a season ago.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
Baltimore ravens Lamar Jackson first team All Pro quarterback. Most
of the time that gets you the MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Not last year.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
But I mean a lot of people yet to say
you had the strong argument is insulting to arguments, right,
you know what I'm saying. In fact, some people had
said that had this little funny smell to it that
josh On won the MVP. Either way, the associated press
of Lamar Jackson was the best quarterback in the NFL
last year. Forty touchdowns, forty interceptions. Pretty damn good. This
year hasn't been that. He struggled this year with injuries,

(01:47:11):
missed a lot of time. But to me, this article
that came out in the Baltimore Sun, which just disparages
Lamar a lot, it really comes like one of the
things you learned in journalism in school is to kind
of pick who does this article benefit that's maybe, or

(01:47:33):
who does this article who benefits the least from this article?

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
That's probably. You can't draw a direct line, but that
might be the source of who's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
From, right, because very rarely are they like Monci's like
going to the journalist saying, yes, I am actually late
for work, right, you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Know what I'm saying. It's like that doesn't you know
what I mean? Like that's something that somebody else tells about,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
So the idea all of this, and one of the
things that throws me off is are one of the
things that makes me feel that this article is coming
from this is a cya type of article. Cover your a,
save your desk, because Lamar Jackson maybe the reason this.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Team is seven and eight right now.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
But if you say it, if not the reason they've
lost eight game Lamar Jackson was unavailable for a considerable
stretch of this season right and has missed practice once
a week basically since Halloween.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
To me, this is a coach.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Or a GM or somebody who's inside the organization coming
out and trying to get ahead of the narrative that
is spending because Baltimore petshon role from this season, They're
not gonna pull a rabbit out of the hat.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
That's not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
This is one of those Lamar who is not without faults.
I'm not blaming. I'm not saying that he is perfect
by any means, But this to me is other people
around the organization, not necessarily on the field, who are
going who are trying to paint a picture to save
them of absolvement. If this is all like, if it's

(01:49:16):
all Lamar's fault while we're seven and eight, it's none
of it can be mine.

Speaker 5 (01:49:20):
Which is funny because if you pay attention to the
details of that story, I still kind of was like,
all right, it seems like it's still on the coach though,
if you get what I'm saying, like if he is
falling asleep in meeting, if any of this is true.
If he's falling asleep in meetings, why are you letting
that happen?

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
He should? He should? I'm never It's not that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
You need to be scared of your coach, but you
do need to have like a respect and a fear
right like that's your coach. You want to you want
to play well for your coach. And so if he's
if any of this is true, I still was like,
all right, how is this still not on Harball?

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
How is he the one allowing all of this to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
This came out because I agree people are trying to
to put blame on someone because people don't just want
to admit that the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Just had a bad a year. Wasn't as simple as that, Martin.
They just had a bad because they were Super Bowl favorites.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
They were supposed to come in and they were supposed
to do something and they have not. And even the
start of the season with Lamar Jackson, the Ravens were
losing and then he got hurt and then they were
losing even more. But in reality, it's you just had
a bad a year. And instead of just saying that,
they're trying to find someone to blame because.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
I think ultimately, when you look at this, like Lamar
Jackson's game has decreased this season, there's no doubt about it,
whether whatever you want to categorize it four or two,
there's no doubt that it's been a step back. But
when I look at this Ravens team, they should be
better than they are right now. And when I look
at this Ravens team in years past, they had better rosters.

(01:50:48):
I think a lot of times in teams that they like,
like the Chiefs AFC Championship game, Like, there's so many
things that the Ravens are different moments of time you
can point directly to coaching going wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
But here's the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
This raised my red flag a billion percent in this
because again I do the day to day of what
happened in the NFL, Like that's how I pay my
bills in terms of producing those shows.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
I'm old enough to remember.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Three weeks ago when Lamar Jackson was reportedly the one
who removed the video games from the Baltimore Ravens locker room. Right,
he was the one that came back said we don't
have time to play any games. We have to get
this stuff up out of here, we got to try
to make a playoff run. So you're telling me that
Lamar was so dedicated at work, Well, was he losing

(01:51:36):
too much at work so you had to go home
and practice?

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
Like none of this.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
And also you say something like, okay, so let's say
Lamar jacks up till four o'clock in the morning playing
video games every night. Cool, you know where he is
at least you know what I'm saying. He could be
up four in the morning doing anything at all, and
he's doing it. So if in fact, that is the

(01:52:01):
reason why the reason you write that in there is
to show or the reason I'm not I'm not blaming
the author of the piece, the journalists.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
I'm talking about the source.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
The reason why the source puts in there he's up
till four o'clock in the morning playing video games is
because it shows a sense of immaturity. Right, if he
was up until four o'clock in the morning, again, all
of this is just what people do. If he said
that he was up till four o'clock in the morning
because he was drinking every night, then they doesn't have
the same context and response doesn't have the same sound

(01:52:32):
as if he's playing video games. It's like, Oh, this
guy needs some help what we're doing. We got to
figure this out, like how do we how do we
get him on board? The video games said, Oh, no,
that's you being a child, And that's what the writing
of it was.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
That was the tone of what the sources had to say.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
And honestly, I don't think that Lamar's maturity level is
the reason why the Ravens are having a bad year
on and off the field. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
that's why it's it's all it's all feels to me
like it's coming from somebody who was working.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
They're not playing.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
You're not wrong because Lamar Jackson. I feel like, you don't.
You don't get all these like negative stories. He's never
in the public. You don't even really know anything about
his personal life. He's pretty private and it seems like
he just plays football and.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
I and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:15):
Like that's what I know about Lamar Jackson because he
doesn't he's not really in the spotlight sure like other quarterbacks,
and he's been in the league several years. This came
out of nowhere, and I agree, I think it's just
to put a blame on someone because Joe, you don't
just want to admit that it did not It was
a bad season. I know they lost a couple of tackles,

(01:53:37):
and like, I think they lost an offensive lineman.

Speaker 4 (01:53:39):
And then who's the one who got hurt in.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Justin Mattabuket that I ended up actually going by his
given name.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Yeah, but dude, Justin mattab book.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
And then which is a namdy mat of buquet, he
ended up with the neck injury that may have him
out obviously for his career.

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
Yes, honestly for his career, so like injuries happened, but honestly,
like I'm with him, this came out to put blame
on someone to protect others from blame when.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
Reality, it was just a bad season. It was just
a bad year.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Guys.

Speaker 7 (01:54:09):
Also, like if if it's all true and he stays
up every night playing video games and every once in
a while, you know, he falls asleep in a meeting.
He's still a two time MVP by the time, you know,
before he's thirty years old. So it's like, what do
you want.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
If he's falling asleep in the meeting. Let's take a
fifteen minute break, right, exactly. Let's right. You know we're boring,
uh Starbucks. We need a sponsorship.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying like that, We'll figure
this thing out, like we'll figure this Hell, I almost
fills up at the meeting the other day.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
I ain't know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
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of the air. So well, Leake Willis left today's game

(01:55:21):
with a shoulder injury. Now he also had a shoulder
injury going into today's game, so that was no good.
So he's now like Clayton Tune came in through an interception,
So that's rough.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
There you go. Raven's ball on the game that nobody's
watching because it's on Peak, because it's on Peacock.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
But the Ravens keep their postseason hopes alive with the win.
But if I think if the Steelers win tomorrow, they don't,
it's over.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
So they're relying on the Browns.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Yes, so I wanted to play a games, bowl game
or not a bowl game?

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
I was sitting there today at the update desk reading
some of the names of.

Speaker 7 (01:56:11):
These bowl gamesulous, which have always been ridiculous, but now
even that much more ridiculous that like, I feel like
less and less people are paying attention to that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
Because the college football Playoff is happening, and it's like,
like I watched the Kender's Texas Bowl is on right now,
the Pop Tart Bowl was today. They won't be And
so I went back a few years, went back a
few years.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
In the last three years or so, bowl or not
a bowl? Real or fake? Moncey, you're a first the
Bucked Up LA Bowl hosted by Gronk. Is that real
or is that fake?

Speaker 5 (01:56:56):
Okay, So he was a part of something, and so
I want to say all that is correct.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
The Bucked Up l A Ball was I think it was.
It was last year. It was last year's version of
the l A Bawl hosted by Gronk. All right in.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Yes, the Serve Pro First Respondable Bowl or not a bull?

Speaker 7 (01:57:20):
See, I know the first Responderable is a thing, but
I don't know if that's the correct sponsor. But I
just because I don't know who it is, I'm gonna
say that is a bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
Okay, that is a ball. And for the record, I'm
not going to be making up. I'm not I will
not be.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
I'm not an actual bull. I'm not going that deep
into it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
All right, Marry Pepper right exactly, the sacred seating right now,
not not because he's actually looking him up. But if
you said at an update desk you might remember some
of them. I'm gonna get to you. I got a
heart of one for you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
But very man.

Speaker 7 (01:57:52):
You could have asked me Kinder's Texas Bowl with it
on the screen there, I probably would have said it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:57:57):
All right, the Duke Mayle Bull, Mary mac Bowler, not
a ball.

Speaker 7 (01:58:05):
I would just say it's not a ball.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
It is a bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
One of the more disgusting balls you'll see as the
people literally will eat mayonnaise.

Speaker 7 (01:58:13):
Al right, this, yeah, you get a bath a mayonnaise.

Speaker 11 (01:58:17):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's winning, coach and totally all right,
all right, should be the losing smelled crazy in there.
The Snoop Dog Arizona Bull Steve di Seger, I'm at
the update test that was today.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Today, I'm saying that's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
Did you see him lead.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
The like band the marketing?

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
He was all read right, no, it was blinking.

Speaker 7 (01:58:42):
It's Snoop DOGG, the sponsor of that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:44):
But let me tell you one of his products.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
That's what it's, Snoop Dog Arizona Bull, right exactly, its
Toop dog A busy weekend Christmas a halftimes.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
What it was.

Speaker 3 (01:58:54):
I'm an all red, all right, Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
The Sunline Solar Crescent City Bowl ball er not a
a lot of words.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
Oh my god, I don't think it's a ball. I'm
gonna go again. Right, that is correct, not ball.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
All right. Let's see here where we have all right,
the uh Frostblite Freezer's glacier bull Monci.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
Is that a buller? Not a bull?

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
I hope it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
It's not a bull all right. And the Arnel Carriers
New Orleans Bull.

Speaker 7 (01:59:30):
I feel like that is a ball. They like to
do locations.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
That is a ball, Orleans ball. Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
The kettle King Popcorn Big Screen Bowl, Not a chance,
Not a chance. Actually in the Kettle King Popcorn Big
Screen ball watches the state And I'm just kidding.

Speaker 12 (01:59:54):
The blue Bonnet Bowl at the Houston astron The blue
Bonnet's the state flower.

Speaker 4 (02:00:00):
Any Oh, I was thinking of a bonnet, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
What I mean?

Speaker 4 (02:00:03):
I was like, did everybody wear that bands?

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
The Ranger Rice Cher Midnight Bowl.

Speaker 7 (02:00:10):
I'm guessing it's me. I'm gonna just say yes.

Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
That's completely made up. So I asked a few to
make up some other ones just for fun.

Speaker 6 (02:00:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
Canyon Creek Distilling Frontier Bowl, why not? Joel Turkey Iron
Range Bowl, why not?

Speaker 4 (02:00:23):
Why not

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