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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
That's right on a Fox Sports Football Saturday, Martin Wise
in here with Zach Harper on. You know, it's really
to me, this is the official start of the fall,
Like when I get it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We had some college football games.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
They were played in like Ireland or something, or France
or something, you know, a place where they call spell
football with us.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes, no, no, no, no, no, this is it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This was real and around, you know, one o'clock noon
Eastern everywhere, all eyes were in the shoe watching Arch
Manning and the Texas Longhorns, the number one team in
the nation, walk into the third ranked Ohio State Buckeyes,
defending champion, with a lot of new looking things going on, right.
(00:50):
Texas had new starters on the offensive line, obviously a
new starter at quarterback. Matt Patricia lost a ton of weight,
he did. My goodness, I was shobbing. I was like,
hold on a minute. I recognized the pencil, I recognized
the eliminaded play sheet.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But where'd you go? Went to? Like the Brian Dabo
school of Pilates from a couple of years ago, or
Ozempic you know one of those. You know, I'm not
going to just choose a man of peds off the top.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I accuse everybody of Olympic. Now you lose ten pounds.
I think you're on it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
You shouldn't do that. You know this as well as
I do as a writer.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now people are saying you should leave typos in there
so they prove it wasn't chat ept's. I know, I
was really good at this. Hold on a second, I
really I didn't need that. I don't need chet GPT
get things wrong. I don't need that right exactly. But
the story of the day to me, all due respect
to the defending national champions, who I do think played
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a relatively clean game against Texas, very few penalties, no turnovers.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Nothing really of note.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Had some drops, but you know, Jeremiah Smith is going
to have to drop like nine more of those before
I become concerned. Yeah, like before I stopped, you know,
saying I say, don't double him. Yeah, he could drop
the ball about nine more times before I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Maybe that's a strap.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Maybe he's like dropping like a I don't got anymore guys,
and then it's like you start single covering him.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Boom.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I was honestly, you know what everything happened, and I
don't think Sam played poorly the quarterback who made his
debut for Ohio State. And yes, we are burying the lead,
but trust me, we will get there.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We'll get there. I think that Joe Klapp pointed out
in the in the.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Broadcast, Jeremih Smith was open only the third play of
the game and didn't get the ball, and I think
it kind of just threw him off for the next
couple snaps.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Whether it's reing, frustrated or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I mean, he's still as great as he is a
true sophomore.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know, the kid you know, nineteenth right when I
was his age.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
You know, the frustration would have lasted me, you know,
six months and a lot of Minmo songs or.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Right Anyway, arsh Man, I said this, I said a
version of this yesterday, So if you heard me again
in the odd couple, you know you'll remember it and
enjoy it. So arch Manning to me before today was
like Kim k pre Kanye Okay, Kim Kardashian pre Kanye West,
(03:15):
I said, because his famous off of the last name
in a thirty minute highlight tape, right, I think, you know,
but That's about it, right, That was about it. We
didn't have much to go off of from either Kim
Kardashian and I think or arch Manning from his three
starts prior in this and.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
What you saw is what you got right.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So to me, anybody who was saying the idea that
arch Manning today is your number one quarterback in the class,
arch Manning today is your heisman favorite, I think you're
just lying to me or you coach at Texas because
those are the only two options because no.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
One else has seen it, right, no one's seen it.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean the big red flag for me was last
year not taking the job from quinningers right like that
you know, with all due respect as I'm about disrespect,
that do is not good in terms of like a
top program number one quarterback. Like if if arch Manning
came in ready to be that guy or was that guy,
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he would have taken that job six seven weeks in,
Like I just truly believe that, I don't believe in
that whole weight you turn thing and not like no,
like you don't do this anymore in the Nile era,
like you don't do this anymore. He didn't really do
it before it like every once in a while with
certain programs.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Maybe.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
But you know, if someone point me towards the long
history of Texas successless back, yeah, Texas is back, and
then and then today he sucked, Like we don't have to,
like I've got a lot of friends going. You know,
maybe you know a lot of pressure tough, Ga't sure,
but that's the job. I would say, to the point
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that you make it. We had no idea.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
What was like the idea Again, you couldn't have framed
it anything outside of this is what you've been told, right,
because nobody's watched it, nobody's seen it. It's like Victor
win Binyaman when he's in France, Like we're looking at
the YouTube tapes, right, we're looking at you know, we're
cherry picking these moments. No one is like I would
hear the word from the French better right than I
(05:24):
would of anybody who's over here. And we were kind
of told by everybody, oh, you know, he's biting his time,
he's waiting his time.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And I it never really jived to me because.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
A at this level of sport, and I get that the
college level is not the pro level, but you know,
say that to the tax returns because everybody's getting paid, right, So.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Generally speaking, you put your best players on the field
at all times. Yeah, that's why the backups are the backups.
And all right, cool, Maybe if you had, if you
had Caleb Williams as your starting quarterback at USC for
two years, Okay, maybe you buy your time.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Shit, maybe you've weighed it out a little bit. But
Quinn Ewers, to your point, was never to me.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He was a eight above average college serviceable, serviceable college quarterback.
You see if he takes if he starts more than
five games in the nfls because something disastrous has happened, Yes,
right to the rest of your roster.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Not being able at Sark had championships on the line.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Shark's been in the College Football Playoff the last two years,
and you could argue that quarterback play was one of
the main reasons that he was held back. Yes, so
you're telling me that he just was playing the worst quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
For fun because we had well, no, we have a
higher You gotta get in line, right.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But you know what I was willing to, especially in
today's day and age, and I am a Michigan fan
at heart, so I do have the concept of those
who stay and sure we're building a program and so on.
You know, all of that tough guy, you know, the
Michigan way. All right, cool, But then when I came
out there, I was, man, I turned the TV on
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at noon, Then we'll have to watch five to ten
more minutes of Big newon kickoff, because if Congress does anything,
they need to look into getting games to start at
the time schedule. Absolutely, But twenty five minutes after noon,
when I watched ar spinning throws first pass and the
receiver was opened by real yards anywhere around him, and
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he skipped the first one.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
In said, hold on, wait, hold on wait, because I.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Remember, like when I first saw Cam Newton, for example, I, oh,
Auburn got the transfer quarterback, didn't know much a bottom.
I watched his first snap he took. I said, why
who is this linebacker playing quarterback?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
The biggest man I've had seeing playing a monster?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And then I just watched him and every minute it's like, Oh,
I ain't a linebacker. Oh he that's a rifle attached
to his right arm. Oh he runs like a fallback
b This is actually more of a defensive end playing quarterback.
Like they just gave a defensive vent for force beat
and truck stick and a massive rifle on the side
of his arm. Okay, I get it now, Yeah, oh,
why wouldn't you play? But oh he's behind team. I
(08:22):
get it now. It all makes sense. Watching that first
pass for march Manning and then watching today for march Manning,
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And it didn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Even the even the two throws three technically if you
want to, if you want to count the touchdown, which
I don't think was a great throw, but you know whatever,
it is a touchdown, even if you want to count
that in there. All right, the three throws he makes
late in that game were surrounded with more throws that
he also missed and misplays. And yes, Ohio State is great.
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That's a great team, that's a great defense. It's tough
to play against. Okay, sure, like, okay, he's nervous. Maybe
it's you know, first game, blah blah, first start. Okay, sure,
at a certain point, you have to show me more
than two throws, three throws, like you just do. At
no point did he look confident, At no point did
he look ready. At no point did he look like
(09:15):
if his last name wasn't Manning, Like would we care about?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And so the point that I made.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I made this point earlier today and our producer Ian
his eyes nearly popped out of his head and he's like,
what are you talk about?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
He watched the same game or what an idiot?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I think that Julian saying played well all things considered, right,
when you all the things that you just gave for arch,
I think he played well. Now, a lot of that
comes into expectations versus the reality that we saw. I
didn't have super high expectations for Julian, saying, even though
I saw him at e Leite eleven camp, I know
Saban it was I bet you he's probably the last
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quarterback Saban recruited. Julian saying, right, because you've went there
and then transferred. I mean you signed in January, Shaving
retires and he automatically then transferred to Ido State right
after that. And we'll talk about Alabama. I know, I know,
we'll talk about Alabama at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But to me saying, while he dealt with some drops,
dealt with everything, he looked comfortable in a way that
like he didn't seem to lose his fundamentals. He's planting
into throws, the balls coming out relatively on time. And
sure he had some players bail them out. Carnell Tape
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bailed him out to her three times. Jeremiah Smith left
them out to drive to her three times. So you know,
call it a wash if you want to, or even
call it plus one on the bailouts from the wide receiver. Sure,
at no point did he look like this is too
big for me. And there were times to me that
arch had the feeling of this feels too big for
(10:54):
me and I'm sitting here and this is not this
is obviously we have seen four quarters of arch Mann
in play right this season.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It really reminded me of Zach Wilson and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Like there were times Zach Wilson when he all put
it together and he could get on the move, get
on the edge, and he could really turn and really
turn it get it to Okay, I see what we're
talking about. But it's just in the pocket. What's wrong
with your feet, man? What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Like? Why is this why you sidearm and everything? Are you?
Are you playing third base? Like? Throw throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's what I felt like I saw out of Arch
today and it didn't feel didn't feel great.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And also I'm not letting Sark off the hook.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
As bad as your quarterback played, Matt Patricia was ready
to give you four yards of carry.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
He was ready to give you four yards of carry.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
And Sharon Moore just a year ago showed you out
to Beatle House State with no quarterback. I would have
played that game if I'm Sark like I didn't like
I I mean, he kind of called it that way.
I would have played like I didn't trust my quarterback
at all, and then we will handle that post game.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But I would have called that out. The running back
to that that led the SEC and rushing last year
was running through them.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
The receiver when they could get him, the ball was
running through I would have we would have been called
the bell their offense. I'm giving the ball to my
best player. Got the way.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I know it was a fourteen to seven game. This
game should have been in the mud for Texas. That
is just one of those games. And to your point
after the game, you're like, you know what, I have
confidence in arts, but I just today we went in
thinking we can run on these guys. We're gonna make
this an ugly game, and we'll work on the other
stuff later on. And then you basically give him a
freebie because once that schedule gets sawt for the next
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couple of weeks exactly, And it was like, all right,
now he gets to get in the rhythm.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Now he's got doubt exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And I look, I just was kind of waiting, right
because you saw the first throw.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
All right, we're giving grace, sure.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know, But then news is, it never seemed like
he was able to get that in the fight. It
seemed to me from what I have heard of the kid, right,
and I'm throwing out his high scho tap. He went
to Isador Newman High School. I knowed is Door Newman
High School. Trust me, he's he might be the only
player from Isadore Newman High School history to play at
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the University of Texas.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That school is responsible for the Mannings Odell Beckham Junior
and that is that that's it, and that's that's the
starting to stop.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Right. I know that's crazy to say that there's those.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Talents, but New Orleans got a lot of good players,
so I don't really put much sock into that.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Plus he's been in college for the last two seasons.
He should have he's been here.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It seems to me like he's probably a better backyard,
get out and run around type quarterback, and over the
last two seasons they've tried to teach him to be
more Peyton and Eli and less archie granddad, right, because
Granddad would get out and run around and let's go
get hit.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And that's why Granddad needs messed up, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And and so it just seemed to me that by
like midway through the second quarter, if I was stuck,
I'd be like, all right, we're gonna buddy, Uh, you
better start talking at ball because we're gonna run. Because
he's a good athlete. Yeah he can move. He looked
good on the move, but yeah, in the pocket if
he's going to be a pocket quarterback, and and like,
granted Wio State's really good, they got some good, good
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push there on the line and everything.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
No, man like he he looked so disorganized in the pocket. Well,
can I just jump in really quick?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Because while none of what you guys are saying is untrue,
I just think we're at a point and at least
in social media not necessarily you guys doing it, but
the timeline right now, it's like the victory lapse of
the Arch haters like already calling him a bust.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's it's absurd because.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
If you give him three weeks from now, I think
he's going to be right back in the Heisman convo.
Whether or not he deserves that after a game like
this against an actual legitate defense, is you know another
conversation in tire, I agree.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You will because he's got San Jose State exact, Sam
Houston and yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
And then and then it's Florida Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I'm not even convinced he's going to do it against Kentucky, Like, yeah,
he'll look good the next three games.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I just mean, like watching Ohio State's defense, Ma Patricia
had that secondary, like Martin said, they were ready to
give up four yards of carry, But for the throwing
aspect of it, I'm not sure how much I blame
Arch in his first road start in Columbus against that
secondary featuring maybe the best defensive player in the country
in car and.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Caleb Downs to the point had this but the mount
and Zach you can relate to this because it's true
for basketball players in a very very true way. He
was blowing layups like he was blowing like this is
you've got the ball pass you on a fast break
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and all you had you only had to dribble jack.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You just had to catch the ball one two, lay
the ball up.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
He was missing dunks to me, and that's where your
foot Like that third and five and then four that
third and five, he threw the ball arms length behind
the receiver and you look at the replay and his
feet are literally pointing in two different directions. That to
me is the equivalent of do you know what I'm saying.
It's like, that's it's right there. If you can't make
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that throw consistently, you're almost like it's it's like a
pre weapons to be able to play the position for sure.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
And if those misses don't go away, you know, by
like midway through this season, then I'm totally with you guys.
With all the haters and stuff. He was over hyped
entirely already. He was probably a little over hyped just
because of his name.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
But I was about to say, that's what it is.
It really is expectations.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
It's the flip side of May your apologies be as
loud as your disrespect.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It's like the flip side of that, like the hype.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Is so loud that now as a result of this,
this is what it brings.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
This is what it brings.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Yeah, because saying the Ohio State guy was another former
five star in his first career start. You know, Manning
has technically had a couple, but he's green.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
That's the point. So in saying it's actually but there
were no expectations.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
But there were no expectations for saying and that's why
you come away thinking you look so much better.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Anyway, I don't need to move on.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, speaking of high expectations, one the fortunes of one
team in the NFC changed dramatically with the stroke of
Jerry's pen, which one was. We'll get to it in
a minute, Martin White, Zach Harper, Fox Sports Football Saturday.
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We're talking a little football.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We'll talk about the Jerry Jones saga with Michael Parsons
after Steve's update. But real quick, Florida State thirty one,
Alabama seventeen. I saw a tweet, so it's gotta be true.
This is the fourth time in Kaitlin de Bor's Alabama
career that he has lost as a favorite of fourteen
or more points. I know this is definitely what he's
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definitely lost at least five. They lost four games last
year one Now he's only coached there for a season
and a game.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Now, Alabama used to set the standard what college football
was under Nick Saban Like that was a standard in
which we had not seen in sports. Really, there's only
a handful of organizations you could even put up to
the test there. That team's not walking through this door.
And you always feel a little sympathy almost. You don't
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want to be the guy who takes the place to
the guy, the next guy. You want to be the
next guy every time I ever Kaitlin Dubois right now
is not the next next guy. He's next up. And
that's that's a tough loss today. The way that they
d just really Also, the way they looked, especially in
the first half not impressive.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I know they made it close, they made a one
possession game and then and then you get that big
touchdown for Florida State, but they looked overmatched. That didn't
look like Alabama. I know it's different. I know Nick
Saban's not there. I know that all that's gone. I
know they need to have a different standard outlook. That
didn't look like them.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And to your point of Okay, Saban's gone, but there's
still a standard, right And I don't mean to poke
fun or anything.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I mean it's sincerely.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
When Irvin Meyer left Ohio State, he's like, no, no, Ryan Day,
I'm giving you the keys to this Ferrari, you need
to keep it going one hundred miles on the left lane.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
There's a certain way that we do things. What do
we do We recruit really good wide receivers. Historically we'll
get some guys on our offensive line.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We'll have good running backs.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like there's certain things that we do Penn State, for example,
from Joe Paterno to James Franklin and Bill O'Brien in between.
You can go back in Point Penn State, we do linebackers.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Alabama used to run the rock, and you could go
back and look at the laundry list of Alabama running backs.
You both run through the NFL and get ran out
of the NFL because their body are too broken down
in Alabama, right they Alabama runs the rock, rushes the passer,
or plays good defense. And today Thomas Castellanos to a
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party on Alabama that was it was not necessarily stylistically
the same, but in terms of trash talking and both
like what team am I watching them play?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
A little rounding me to Johnny Manzel.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Just an attitude, right because when they Johnny Manzel came
out and took the nfteam and beat Alabama, was like,
wait a minute, just mean more about Johnny and Moore
about Alabama?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
This one I feel like meant more about Alabama.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean to your point, two point six
yards per carry, two point six.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Not getting it done. That's not Alabama not getting it done.
Two point six yards of carry is not simply not
getting it done.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And you know Ryan Grubbed the offensive coordinator there.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But they're really hot on the freshman I forget his name,
the freshman back up for Alabama.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But Ty Simpson wasn't.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know, he kind of looked through, like you said,
overmatched Alabama. It's gonna be interesting to see how the
shift in college football goes, because again, one loss today
does not eliminate you from the playoffs, no matter how
you feel about it. But you don't feel better about
your playoff chances. No team that lost today feels better
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about their playoff chances than they did the day before.
Like this is really there's really no you know, moral victories.
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Speaker 3 (23:02):
Good evening, gentlemen.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
Happy that it's like opening Day here. I know it's not,
but you reference this earlier. It feels like a holiday, right.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It is a beautiful it is. That's a good word
for it. It's beautiful.
Speaker 11 (23:14):
There is a game, a top ten matchup tonight at Clemson,
and after forcing a turnover, Clemson was held to a
field goal. Clemson Tigers lead the LSU Tigers three to
nothing late in the first quarter. It's Texas A and
M ranked nineteenth now up twenty one ten on UT
San Antonio late second quarter. Seventeenth rank Kansas State has
taken a seventeen to fourteen lead against North Dakota, which
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is driving in the final minute before halftime.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Early fourth quarter.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
At eighteenth ranked Oklahoma Sooners up twenty eight to three
on Illinois State final seconds before halftime. At fifteenth ranked
Florida Gators lead thirty one to nothing over Long Island
and at number fourteen Michigan fourteen nothing Wolverines over New
Mexico early second quarter, twenty third ranked Texas Tech already
up twenty three thing on Arkansas Pine Bluff early in
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the second quarter, and Georgia State at number twenty one
Old Miss will kick off in fifteen minutes. Number three
Ohio State was a winner at home fourteen to seven
over number one Texas. Number two Penn State rip Nevada,
Number five Georgia all over Marshall. Seventh ranked Oregon ripped
Montana State. Florida State with the home win against number
eight Alabama thirty one seventeen. Twenty thranked Indiana won twenty
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seven to fourteen over Old Dominion. Easy win for Iowa
State over South Dakota and in Atlanta, twenty fourth ranked
Tennessee defeated Syracuse forty five to twenty six. Comes Sunday,
it's Virginia Tech against number thirteen South Carolina in Atlanta,
and number six Notre Dame plays at number ten Miami
tomorrow night. The NFL's regular season opener is Thursday. To
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Major League Baseball, Aaron Judge's homered and the Yankees lead
one nothing at the White Sox in the bottom of
the fifth. For Judge, it is home run number forty
two of his season. The Braves and Phillies are tied
one one in the bottom of the ninth. Cardinals lead
at Cincinnati two to one in the bottom of the
sixth inning, Houston tied one to one with the Angels
bottom of the fifth, Twins leading the Padres three to
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one in the top of the sixth. The Dodgers will
be hosting the Diamondbacks in about a half an hour earlier,
winnsdaday for Miami and Tampa Bay. Pittsburgh won at Boston
ten three, Milwaukee a winner at Toronto four to one.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Back to you, thanks Steve Martin White, Zach Harper, coming
to you live on a Fox Sports Football Saturday. You know,
we got the junior circuit going on right now. As
Bryce Underwood of the Michigan Wolverines knocking on the door
of a touchdown. Oh come on, no, he didn't get it.
Third and goal and it probably settle for a field
goal here. But you know what, I just am happy
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that my highly touted freshman prospect is playing. Sure, you
don't have to hide behind a seventh round quarterback quin yours.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Now, let's go to the NFL real quick.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Zach, where were you when the news dropped that Michael
Parsons was no longer going to be a Dallas Cowboy.
I feel like that was one of the notifications that
you remember when you got it.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
It's not all right, it's not quite Luka Donc has
been moved to the Lakers, right, but I do it.
But I I remember seeing the notification, the Twitter notification
from from Schefter sure, and thinking, okay, I don't get
those from fake accounts. But it's the same feeling I
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had with Sham's when he tweeted out the lucatrail. I
was like, Okay, I know this, this wouldn't be a
fake notification, but something's happened with my phone. Like I
I was just under the assumption Micah was going to
get his deal with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And that's not by far a crazy assumption.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
To have, cause you, like most was used to, you know,
base your predictions off logic and reasoning of which past.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
But is an illogical thing with Jerry Jones, I know, well,
but that's part of that.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's really what it boils down to, right, Okay, So
like logically we would have all none of.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
This would have happened, Like I thought.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
He was like, all right, even if he doesn't get
the deal, all right, he's a free agent next year.
They franchised tag him for two years or whatever. Like
I thought, like we were gonna go down that road
sure at worst.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Which I can't fault you for, can't fault you for
it all.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I thought they were too, which is why I got
the notification. I was actually driving them my way up here,
and my take was going to be, Jerry, cancel the
soap opera.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Just trade him. See if you can get to.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
First and move on right. See if you get to
first and take right, because hey, look.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It reminds me of when the Angels had show hel
Tani and they were like, we can't trade him, we
gotta try to resign him. It's like, all right, well,
look I got news for you, buddy. He ain't coming
back here no matter what you do. You could offer
him the team. It's equity in the team, and he's
not coming back. So if you got a Ferrari and
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you can't afford the payments, would you just let them
repoe it or.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Would you try to sell it? Do you know what
I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I get it you lost money on the deal, sure,
but you could lose it all or something.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You can get something.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh, Clemson, just I thought they were about to fake
a sixty two yard field call tech his little bit
a little pooch, punt, smart Dobbo, keeping everybody on their toes,
even us.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So I wasn't shocked. I saw again.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I was like, Jerry, it might be time to just
move on from this thing, especially because the negotiations had
seemed total antagonistic. Yeah, and Michael Parsons, to his credit
or discredit, however you want to phrase it, whatever however
you land for you was at camp, was present for everything.
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He just you know, lolly gagging around on the table,
but he was there where CD was like, I will
sit on my couch until you pay me. All right,
I'll take the fines.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I'll do that. I'll eat that.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's cool. So the thing that got me was I
think it was really unfair that everybody crushed Jerry after
making this move. The Cowboys win total before Michael Parsons
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was traded to Green Bay was seven and a half.
It went down to six and a half. Right, the
Packers was nine and a half and it went up
to ten and a half. Sure, so, bad team gets
worse after losing all Pro player, Good team gets better after.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Gaining All Pro player more than eleven. Right, I didn't
see the.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Big deal, right, And see what everybody was going to
freak out about but you turn on the Worldwide Leader,
you are these here and there, and everybody's like, how.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Can you possibly not sign Michael? Oh my goodness, football
mad practice? What is this old guy doing here? Though
he got the lunch? It seems to be the conversation.
I just can't. I don't know. Am I off? Maybe
I'm off?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I think the problem is it it's probably not the
individual moment, right, this individual thing. To me, it speaks
to a grander issue of like, this team hasn't mattered
in a good way in a long time. That's Jerry Jones.
Jerry Jones isn't happy to just sign the checks and granted,
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like you own the team. You've owned the team for
a long time. You used to win super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You can see it a part documentary on Netflix. Sure, yeah,
I mean I'm sure it's great. Like actually, i've heard
it really really good. Yeah, I've heard it's great. I
don't care about the Cowboys. I don't care about that's fair.
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But but like to me, it's it speaks to a
bigger issue of all right, like you don't have it anymore,
you haven't had it for a long time.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You can go out there put out a ten win team,
eleven win team, twelve win team. But you get to
the postseason and you know you believe in Mike McCarthy
because you can roll over Mike McCarthy, believe in Justin
Garrett because you could roll over Justin Garrett.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Like, the issue is not this individual move. To me,
the issue is the culture of the Cowboys, which is
set by Jerry Jones, and so he wants to and
it's not even meddling. He's just running it, right. This
isn't an owner who's meddling. He's just running it, and
he's running it in a way where you don't matter
once we get to the important stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Okay, so let's put a table in that.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Let's put a pin in that, and tablet until the
top of next hour.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Because I have.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I feel like I somehow am paint it as like
a Jerry defender. That's what it feels like right now.
That's what it feels like right now. And I look,
I'm here to make fun of Jerry as much as
everybody else.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I like to make fun of rich people too, right, great, Right,
But I do think he's just catching a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
But I do want to talk about the packer's side
of this thing for a moment here.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Where did you think the packers were prior to like
on Wednesday of this week, how did you have the
packers finishing? And how's it changed now? If it does? Yeah,
I think it's changed. I do think it's changed. I
do think that that they you know, I try to
think about it, like, all right, a few years ago,
they had a chance, they're very close on trading for
Khalil Mack, right, and then he goes he goes to
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the Bears, and and and at the.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Time I remember when I heard like, oh yeah, the
packer's almost got a thought, damn, that would have been
that would have been something, right, Kalil Mack is a
insane athlete, right, he's very good. Parsons I feel the
same way like Parsons. I'm like, Okay, this definitely shifts things.
I don't know if I would still put them above
the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Like I guess we're going to see if the if
the Lions, you know, still got it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
They probably do.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That's still a pretty pretty talented team, pretty high powered
offense everything. I don't know if I'm putting them with them.
I also don't know that I believe in you know,
maybe you should turn your headphones off of the I
don't know that I believe in JJ McCarthy. No, no, no, okay,
all right, Like I don't know that I buy that
all the hype with him for the Vikings, even though
the rest of their team is incredible. I do think
this puts the Packers in a position to come playoff
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time that might be like that might be the difference
maker in them making a deep run because of the
pressure you can put on the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So, speaking of the pressure the Packers defense not gonna
put on the quarterback. To me, after the initial shock,
war off and everything, my biggest take was, oh, my goodness,
the pressure on the Packers quarterback Jordan loves.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Because you only make a move like this.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
The only way you make a move like this is
if you think you got a capital T capital g
that guy at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Absolutely, And so I wasn't Martin Weiss.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I was not sold that you had a capitol t
chapla guy at quarterback?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
You talking about the quarterbacks like.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
There are times are like yeah, it looks pretty good,
and there are times like that's not the guy, but.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
The Green Bay Packers gave him the money.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And now this is the type of move that I say,
I don't know how Buffalo didn't make it. I don't
know how Baltimore doesn't make it. I don't know how
Kansas City. You know what I'm saying. If you're a
top of one of these teams at the top of
the AFC and you're looking to separate yourself because it's
Chris Jones, and every single one of the Super Bowls
that Kansas City has won, Chris Jones has made a
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massive play and late in the fourth quarter that either
showed up on the stats.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Sheet or not.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
But you forty nine fan, you remember Chris Jones breathing
down Brock Parties next hated it, floats to the ball
that hated it. You know, one of the worst days
of my life. And Mahomes at the MVP of that game.
But Chris Jones on that making sure that game wasn't
extending on that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Here footsteps the whole game.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
So obviously Jerry is ready to sell. Michael Parsons and the
Packers are ready to buy. We'll play a game of
buy our buy or sell ourselves with Ian being the
is that auctioneer, salesman broker?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
We'll get to that. I like salesman, all right, salesman
sell it? Then coming up.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Next, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Check Off.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'm Martin Wise joined here with Zach Harpurn and Fox
Sports Football Saturday. You know what, I don't have nothing
nice to say. Ian, Let's go ahead, let's get right
to it. Buy or Sell. We'll cover with to your
Life for the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Okay, price is right? Music there, love it? You can
turn that down a little.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Let's start with this buy or sell a Marvin Harrison
junior breakout season in his sophomore season.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm buying that.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You know why Arizona Cardinals drafted Will Johnson in the
second round. Will Johnson he's used to locking up Marvin
Harrison junior. He's gonna get better in practice than he
everyone in the pro and any work in the game.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
So I think I'll have a bounce back second year.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
I'm buying it because I know who his dad is smart,
not saying anything negative about that family, and I.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Say it's actually his dad. It's Dallon line. It's not
his uncle or anything anything. It's right down bloodline is pure.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Next up, buy or sell Mike Evans keeping his one
thousand yard streak a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
This is my favorite streak in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm buying it because Mike Evans is the first ballot
Hall of Famer and he deserves to be in a
football life.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Story is incredible when you think of the quarterbacks he's had.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah, I mean, there's no way unless he gets hurt.
That's the only thing that would stop it. I'm gonna
buy it.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yea had a hamstring last year, missed four games.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Remember it came down to like the last drive though,
so it was close. Next up, Ashton Genty hitting one
thousand rushing yards as a rookie.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Buy or sell. I'm buying it because Pete is going
to run the rock. There's two things to gum and
run the rock.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I'm gonna sell it because I hate the Raiders, so
I want as much as I like him, I do
not want anything good to happen.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
He hasn't had a very explosive preseason.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
It's the only franchise in sports I hate, the only one,
the only one. Like people you know, being an NBA, Right,
people like, oh, you hate my I promise I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I just hate the Raiders.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
There's such a tormented franchise. I love that torment franchise
to hate like they already have enough. The worst fan
base that's ever.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Exist, seeds like I was going to hate the Jets.
What do you This isn't a Jets situation?
Speaker 7 (37:37):
Next up, buy or sell Travis Hunter succeeding as a
two way NFL player.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
All right, I need you to I'm asking the cashier
to define succeed.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's up to you to define
for yourself. It's your own however you define success. But
I guess personally, when I'm asking it, I would say,
do you see him succeeding?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Let's say seven hundred yards receiving as a rookie and.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Good in coverage.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'd say, I think that's possible. I think that's possible.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I'm gonna sell it just because I don't think. I
don't know if they're booing me or the Travis I
it's it's not it's not doubting him, it's more just
doubting the idea in general. Like, it's just it's so
hard to fathom a guy being good at both and
playing enough at both to get to get those reps.
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So I gotta sell it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I think the more interesting buy er sell that you
nobody really wants to talk about buy rsel Travis Hunter
playing over twelve and a half games, I'd sell it.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Oh, is that your version? That Your definition of success
there then is well games played?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I think they are dedicated to doing it. They're gonna
try it until it fails, and so I just wonder
if he's if his body's gonna be able to hold.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Up on it all right.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
Next up, Davante Adams having a one thousand yard receiving season.
He's thirty two years old, but he's on the Rams
and he's the number two there behind Pookinakua. What do
we think buy or sell?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I'm selling that because I'm selling Matthew Stafford's back and
you know who his backup is?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Is it me worse? Jimmy Garoppolo? Oh no, I've done
the Jimmy g thing before.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
No, Jimmy Garo Yeah right, yeah, I gotta get the
f out of here before they and kill me.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo was a quarterback. No, I gotta sell that.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I just yeah, man, the Stafford things sounds so bad.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
All right?
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Next up Abdul Carter Giants rookie getting at least eight
sacks his rookie year.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Buy or sell?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Eight sacks is rookie year. He's got to chase around Jay.
The problem is they're never going to have a lead.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
Think about the depth on that line too. They got Thibodeau, Dexter, Lawrence,
Brian Burns.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
You just sold me because he's gonna have one on
ones all day.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm by He's a monster. I know they're
not in a good position, but he's a he's gonna
get it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
How quickly did Abdul Carter skyrocket up the NFC East
pass rusher rankings didn't.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Even play a game? All right?
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Next up Mike Tomlin, another streak that's still alive as
of now. Do you see him keeping his over five
hundred streak alive this year with Aaron Rodgers under center?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Buy or self? I have to buy this. I have
to buy it. I have to.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
They're gonna do the same thing to do every year.
They're gonna be They're gonna win nine games and get
blasted by the Bills in the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not doubting Mike Tomlin in the
regular season. That's that's a buy. I don't even doubt
him in the in the postseason. I wanted to color
it that way, but he's yeah, he's he's too good.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
You say one more quick one. Jackson Dart's seeing the
field this year for the Giants.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Oh by bye bye, bye bye bye. Yeah, I'll buy that.
With everything. There's no Russell Wilson's gonna be your seventeen
game starter. No for Briant Dayball is there too. That's
why it's a discussion.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Jamis will be working for Fox Sports Digital by week fifteen.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I'll tell you that right now. Has this guy lost
his touch or is it a magic touch? Get to
the next don't.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Radio Radio on a Fox Sports Football Saturday. It feels
so good to be back as I sit back and
watch Bryce Underwood rip a third and fourteen pass for
like a forty yard game, Michigan leading just by a
touchdown against New Mexico. But you know, what's a sixty
minute game just because it's a thirty four and a
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half point points. Brad does not mean this game is
out of redio. He's still gonna play it.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, you still got to play. Play, still got to play.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
But it's good though, I mean like for it to
be a legitimate first start in college. The last start
he had was in high school type of thing. Ball's
coming out. Fast Ball seems to have some zip. He
doesn't look out of place, right, and we have seen
a quarterback that did look out of place today.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
It was an state. I'm talking about Arch Manning. Ah, well,
let's go back to kids.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Just imagine a couple of weeks ago, people were talking
about the Cowboys, You're gonna tank again, our tank this
season to take Arch with the first overall pick, like.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
You know what, I'm here for it. Well, I think
that would be funny.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I just know if they think that they'd be killing
Jerry even worse to have to do with Jerry.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
But I think that Jerry Jones and I and I
applaud him for it.
Speaker 10 (42:32):
Now.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I think that sports needs the Jerry Joneses of the world. Yeah,
I think that.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I understand why Lakers fans clapped when Genie Bus sold
the Lakers but I think the fact that the Lakers
were in the Bus family is probably better for the
for the game of sport in general, right, because the
personality of people in these ownership positions gives you a
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lot of insight and gives you a lot of conversation says, look.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Why didn't this work? Right?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I think it's interesting with the Jerry side of things,
with the Micah trade, that at every step of the way,
it seemed after that meeting.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
That Micah and Jerry had in just where it was called, didn't.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Discuss leadership, contract negotiation terms were thrown around both parties
agreeing to this part of the discovery of the argument
that you know that there were arguments about our conversations
about money numbers, several phone calls back and forth, and
then apparently became an issue when the agent got involved.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Now, what was your take on this?
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Just just in general, because agents, I feel like have
a much bigger sense of things.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
That's what it looks like two minutes drive boom down
the field.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Agents have a much a larger impact in the NBA,
I think then they do in the NFL. Every so
often you'll have or you know, have a big name
agent that's what we have in this case is David
will look get it. But just with your inside of
how player team agent works, covering it from the NBA side,
and just as a fan of football, what was your
take on how the all things went down?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
I mean, I think the agent's job is to get
his client what he wants, right. It's not to like,
all right, let's make the best deal for everybody. It's like, no,
your client wants this much money, it's your job to
go to this money. Your client wants to go to
this team, it's your job to give them to this team.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And so.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I the NBA is much different about it. The NBA
like agents really run that thing like this, like we
go through every collective bargain agreement and we come out
of that going.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Man, the players got screwed. This is terrible.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
And then about a year or two into that collective
bargain agreement, the agents figure out, all right, here's how
we take the power back, right, this is how we
make it work for us.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
NFL doesn't work like that. NFL. It is if you're.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
A quarterback, you know you're going to get more like
if you're a good quarterback, and should say you know,
you're gonna get more than the last guy got, right,
That's just kind of the system, and that continues to
be the system. And we're, you know, I don't know,
a couple years away from like one hundred million dollar
quarterback a year, right, Like it's it's heading that way.
And and with you know, your top players like in
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Michael Parsons at each position. Yeah, like this guy's going
to get crazy paid and then it's on the team
to figure out the rest of it. I don't have
a problem with what the agent did. I guess I
don't even necessarily, like I said earlier, like in this
if you just boil this move down to what it
is by itself, I don't really have a huge problem
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with what the Cowboys did. Like now you're putting a
lot of pressure on Kenny Clark is a defensive tackle.
Who who's heading that way? And like the whole pivot
of we got to stop the run, we don't stop
the run. It's like, yeah, you don't stop a lot
of things, Like it's I don't know if it's just
the run like Cowboys, Like you don't stop a lot
of things. And they are in a tough, tough division,
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out like obviously the champs and then and then with
the Commanders coming the way they are and Jayden Daniels everything.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Like yeah, like you've you've got a tough road ahead
of you. You do have to be a more well
rounded team, and not paying that money to Parsons does
do that. And you do get a couple of first
round picks and if you hit on those picks and
blah blah blah, but they if you want to spend
it as this is like when they traded herschel Walker
and what like eighty nine or whatever that was. It's
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not the same situation. This was a team that was
pretty good when healthy.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
So that's the thing that I find. I found a
little disingenuous with the whole thing. I thought, in a vacuum,
if you look at the Saron's on a barrel of
Pamicha parsions, you know, obviously we know what he got paid,
but setting the market over for him, now, setting market
by twenty percent, didn't see that, But setting the market
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you know, six million dollars over that surprise, but setting
the market and all of that.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
It's like that team was twelve and five, twelve and
twive twelve and five and they got it hurt. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Every year that Dak has been a healthy starter, they
are a double digit win team.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
And Jerry said, listen, I he wanted to keep Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
That's facts. And I think you wanted to make him
the highest paid d well he's had.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
In that press conference, I wanted to give him the
most guaranteed money I could as for a defensive player.
I want to give him the most amount for a
defensive player. Now how the terms worked out, what the
actual final number was, but that was gonna be the
because that's big in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Is like what's my headline? Yes, what's the headline? What
is my agent gonna tell schefter to tweet?
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yeah, like for the for the highest highest ever you need,
here's the guaranteed money, which is the craziest ever.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah, those are the things you need to hit.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
So he would have got, according to Jerry, the highest
guaranteed money for a defensive player. So probably I think
would have came in like under Jefferson and Chase, but
like still coming up pretty, you're.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Doing well for yourself. That's the thing that I couldn't shake.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
And I made the point at the day because I
was on the air of the day that the trade
was made, like every step of the way, Jerry brought
up the agent, the agent, the agent, the agent, and
he said, why doesn't Jerry want to negotiate with this agent.
That's the question that I had because I wasn't all
the way squared down. An agent actually heard me and
(48:29):
then called me later that night and kind of put
me on game because you nailed it. The agent's job
is to get the player what the player wants, right.
Micah Parsons, from the day he was drafted to August first,
twenty twenty five, has been consistent that he wanted to
be a Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, I want to be a cowboy for life. Of
a cowboy life for me and Jerry are like that.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
At some point between that conversation between Jerryry and Micah
and then Micah going and back and calling Mulagetta, something
fell through the cracks, absolutely, and my buddy kind of
put me on a game and say, look if he
thinks that the agent overplayed it and that's why everything
is the way it is, and that yeah, Mike is
(49:19):
now the highest paid by a long shot. His mom
can retire. Although I think his mom would have been
able to retire off the deal that Jerry would sure
both deals, his mom still could be. It's not even
degrees of retirement. It's just yeah, you don't have to
work no more, mom, when you good. But I wonder
if we're looking at a Tyreek Hill to a Tyreek
(49:39):
Hill light where Tyreek wanted to stay in Kansas City.
He just wanted to get paid more. Yeah, right, And
they haggled and haggled and haggled, and all of a
sudden he got traded, and now he's a dolphin, and
now Tyreek Hill's favorite. The moment you hear of Tyreek
Hill is when he's streaming while I show speed and
Kay sanat As opposed to doing anything revolving the Miami Dolphins.
(50:02):
And if you look at Micah's post game or not
post game, but an introductory press conference, I've paid as
much attention I paid to Jerry's I paid attention to
Michaels because I want to hear what he said about
the Cowboys. He said, I never thought it was gonna
end up this way. You know, this is a blessing
in disguise. That's what the guy who you just paid
the highest contract in the history of non quarterback contraction.
(50:24):
This is a blessing in disguise because his heart is
in Dallas. His heart was in Dallas. And so to me,
if the age, if Jerry don't want to talk to
the agent and my age as a job, my job
is to get my client what he wants, and he
wants to be a cowboy and get paid the most
to do so. You're negotiating years, guaranteed money, length of
(50:45):
contract with incentives. Right, That's really the only thing. Everything
else is collectively bargained. There's no real more discussion to
be had. I can send the text message to my
client say we want this number, that number and that number.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
And if he comes back and.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Say you say we want xxx, he comes back and
see when we want X?
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Why say all right, I'll be right back, call me.
Let's have a talk about it.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
I can advise you from outside of the room by
having to be in the room with with Jerry.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
And and your player.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
To me, the agent told me he thought that that
was an overstep, and that's a big part of the
reason why that Michael Parsons isn't a cowboy today.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
It might be an overstep, but also granted is different
in different leagues, but it a conversation between Jerry and
Micah doesn't need to decide it sure, you know, like
like yeah, if I was Jerry, I don't want to
talk to Michael too. I bet it's a lot easier
to sell Micah on things than it is on an
agent whose job is to do what they do right.
(51:47):
Like I, I see what you're saying, and I'm not
saying he didn't overstep the jobs to overstep so but
and I get that because because if my if my now,
I'm not saying Michah didn't want to stay, but there's
a certain point mikeuld be like, get the deal done.
I want to be here, Get the deal done right now.
(52:08):
The agent doesn't have to do that. And then we
get a hold of like what are you doing for
your client if your client wants this and everything. But
also Jerry doesn't have to trade Micah. That's a choice,
that's not a thing. Like he chose to do it
instead of writing out because what do you do with
dak every year?
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Wrote it out exactly, But I think he felt that
to the point that Micah to me and it always
felt a little different. This one always felt was a
little different because Micah is the only one of the
the twenty twenty version of the triplets. Yeah that Dallas
had who's also a media personality, like Michael Parsons is
(52:44):
doing his podcast this year. Michael Parsons just like the
head of the football division for Bleacher Report, right, like
he it is what he does the same way that's that.
Do you have several Trey Young I believe, like the GM,
but he's like Jesus GM.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
Of Oklahoma basketball, right like.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Right, these are jobs that these guys have, right right,
So like if Trey Young is like at the practice facility,
I'd hope that he's not taking a call on John
Mattier or something. You know what, I got to think
all that stuff is just for show. There's no way
they're doing anything. Okay, I agree, But I'm just saying like, yeah,
(53:24):
it's more like, okay, you could you know. This is
the same way that the Michigan football coaches like ira
j Nikki had football coaches like because ira Ja whoever paid.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
That much to get back? Right?
Speaker 2 (53:34):
But I just think that Jerry was the news on Tuesday,
and then Michael was the news on Wednesday when when
on the edge with Michael Parsons dropped right, and those
two things sometimes would conflict with one another. And now
you're sitting there answering questions for everybody, like on before
your Thursday practice available, Hey, Micah said, Jerry said this
(53:57):
on Tuesday, Mike I said this on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Dek Prescott, what would you like say about it? Actually, dude,
I'm just trying to go to work. R I'm just
trying to go to work. And Jerry signs the checks.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Micah is the one that castes him, right, So it's like,
you know who is It's one thing for Jerry, who's,
like you said, not meddling or running it. Yeah, he's
running and how he sees fit. Now that's his prerogative
because it's his. It is not Mike is to run
to see how you know what I'm saying, No, not
at all. So I buy it when Jerry says, yeah,
(54:28):
it was a unit of decision. I buy that.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
I guess I do too. I guess I do too.
But I still like that's what it boils down to.
Is we still come back to, like, man, this was
the decision, Yes, like you made this decision. I can't
feel bad for you when you've made this decision.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
And I think what people don't.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
And I've spent way too much of my discernible income gambling.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Way too much.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Okay, so when a guy calls himself to gambler, I
can get it. Like when Shoe al Tony's interpreter got popped.
I remember I was doing an interview with Tim Parker
on Spectrum and he was like, how can somebody continue
to gamble when they're only winning forty six percent of.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
The time because you've got to make up for the
fifty four you didn't win.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Well, it's also too I'm winning forty six percent of
the time.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Right, I'm home, I'm right there, I'm if I have
one thing goes different here, but bounced there. You know
what I'm saying. Malik Beasley hits that three. Oh wait no,
but you say what I'm saying. It's like, I'm right there,
I'm live. I'm really good at this.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
And so for Jerry, I think he took a bath
on the DAK deal and admitted as much. Yeah, right,
CDs that got me here. You can only play with
the chips you got left, for sure, and He's like,
do I really want to push my chips all the
way in cause like the most defensive money for a
guaranteed player. Don't have a problem with that, right, knowing
(55:54):
that Crosbill signed, t J. Wattle sign, Miles garrettle signed,
even if those guys did sign, right, it's the six
million dollar bump is the one that is like, Okay,
but I don't know, man, that's like three starters.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
Yeah, but I guess, I guess my question that would
be when you know you have these order of operations,
and granted, guys come up when they come up, but
I wouldn't pay the receiver before I paid the pass rusher.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
No, But and I'm with you now, you're right on
the hand before he shouldn't have gone in with the
two seven off, right, but he did. But he did,
and that money, that money's gone now we live talking
about we were just talking about this in la Hey.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
All right. I accidentally got on the four or five South.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
There's nothing I can do now besides ride till I
can get off and get back on the I can't
turn around, right.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
There's no space for anything.
Speaker 2 (56:50):
Speaking of no space for anything, this matchup of the
Tigers is that no space in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
It seems like defense has been dominating.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
And with these two quarterbacks that are you know, everybody
tell your first round quarterbacks high choices. I'll tell you
what the most impressive quarterback I've seen today. We haven't
talked about them once yet. We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
Coming up next to Martin Wisite's.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
Zach Harper, Fox Sports Football Saturday. Martin Wis Zach Harper
coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 3 (57:24):
Hit us up on Twitter. I'm at Martin Wis.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Zach is at Talk Hoops as Clemson and LSU is
at the half the matchup of the Tigers two highly
touted quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
What is it ten to three right now?
Speaker 2 (57:39):
But again, it's interesting to watch now and this is
something that we're gonna have to get used to, Zach,
especially when you consider in the last what was it
two first rounders last year at quarterback in Dart and
cam Ward and then sixth the year before, right, and
(57:59):
then you had your door in the class that just
went so But when you have almost you know, ten
or so quarterbacks drafted in the top three rounds of
the most prior drafts, you're gonna end up with a
lot of raw in the college game, you know, a
lot of raw and a lot of guys.
Speaker 3 (58:17):
You've seen, Wait he's on which school?
Speaker 6 (58:22):
I remember him from from Akron in two thousand and one,
like kind of like that, and you saw it to
shoot today arch Manning and Julian saying Arts looking way
more uncomfortable than Julian saying to me, but Julian saying
also not necessarily, you know, lighting the world on fire, right,
(58:44):
and you see club Nick and nush Meyer today, guys
that are seen again we're watching the game on the radio,
so it's a little hard to like break it down
all the way. But offenses are moving with not not
with relatives, but you knows, like this is a good
flow back and forth.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
Of the game.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Even though LSU has not been able to get into
the end zone today, Clemson obviously has Clemson. I think
LSE you fumbled uh going to drive and as a
result didn't end that.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
One end points.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
But it shows you just the gap in quarterbacking at
this level. We see the gap at quarterbacking in the NFL.
It's to me that much more stark in college. Absolutely.
I mean, I think to your point too. I don't
know why completely slipped my mind. The materials at Oklahoma.
Oh yeah, so I turned that, turned that off for
(59:35):
a minute, and that I was like, oh, yeah, this
dude's good. I remember him, Like this guy was Washington State,
right like yeah, Like I was like, oh, that's right.
And then you look at some of these other quarterbacks
and you see, oh, I think that guy will be
good as opposed to this is the guy.
Speaker 4 (59:54):
Like I think that's where we are with quarterbacks right now.
For the most part in college football. There's a lot
the potential.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Like the Castillanos kid who played for Florida Stay today.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Yeah, he looked good. You know, I had just read
the quotes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
You know, he's you know he said, he's like, you know,
they don't have Nick Saby coming to save them. I
don't think they're gonna be able to deal with me. Yeah,
And I was like, okay, you know what I'm saying.
I had a lot of braggadocio at nineteen sure, but
then my boy walked out there and I was like, Oh,
this might be what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah, he was right, you know, this might be what
it looks like. You know. DJ Lagway I haven't seen it him.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Out there today, but I uh, Florida had a laugh
or I forget who they play, but you know he's
another guy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Yeah, looks like looks the party, looks the part for sure.
And then you know, I don't know, or Long Island
they're playing Long Eye. Yeah, that's right, Long Island.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Uh, I don't know, Zach, could I interest you in
twelve for seventeen for one hundred and forty four yards
or two touchdowns in your first ever half of college football?
Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
It looks good New Mexico. But he looks good, he said, Yeah,
you know what. Dave Portnoy, Yeah, yeah, my favorite person
in the world. But if things are true and you've
negotiated this whole deal.
Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
They maybe you want to go more. Tom Brady, thank you,
but yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Also not my favorite.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Person in the world, but you know what, Tom Larry Page,
Tom Brady or knowing whoever's responsible who got him there,
forgetting Bryce Underwood keeping him in Michigan. I tell you,
it's just again, I have right. But as much as
I was over there talking about, hey, we sure ars
(01:01:31):
Manning's al righty, but by the end of the first quarter,
do you know what I'm saying. It's like and that's
why when people say things like like what Ian said,
our producer at the start of the show, saying like, man,
this is a lot of negativity. It's a lot of negativity.
It's like, Man, it's because there's a lot of excitement
and hype going into this and if it doesn't look
(01:01:54):
kind of like how it's supposed to, people are gonna
have questions.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Now, I'll say one person that you never have questions
about because it always.
Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Sounds like it's supposed to. That's Steve Seger, Steve twelve
for seventeen one forty four. In the first half, Oh
my goodness, I'm in love.
Speaker 11 (01:02:09):
We have the two quarterbacks that you mentioned in the
LSU at Clemson game, each under one hundred yards passing
in the first half. Clemson Tigers leading the LSU Tigers
at halftime ten to three. And it is Long Island
at fifteenth rank Florida and it's now Gators forty eight
to nothing with about two minutes to go in the
third quarter. Seventeenth rank Kansas State has put up two
(01:02:31):
touchdowns in the third to take the lead against North
Dakota thirty one twenty one k State late in the
third at nineteenth ranked Texas A and M. It's only
a lead for the Aggies of twenty one seventeen over
UT San Antonio mid third.
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Quarter ANM is in field goal range.
Speaker 11 (01:02:48):
Halftime at number fourteen Michigan Wolverine's twenty four to ten
over New Mexico and, by the way, visiting ann Arbor
in a couple of weeks will be Central Michigan. Michigan
will be paying them one and a half million dollars
for the visit. In two weeks, they are paying New
Mexico one point eight million dollars for the visit. Tonight,
(01:03:09):
it's only halftime at number twenty three Texas Tech Red
Raiders forty seven nothing over Arkansas Pine Bluff. Halftime at
number twenty one Old Miss Rebels twenty five to seven
over Georgia State. Early minutes, it's number sixteen SMU up
seven nothing over East Texas A and M. By the way,
all twelve teams from last year's playoff were ranked in
(01:03:30):
this year's AP preseason Top twenty five. That includes number
sixteen SMU, which is preseason ranked for the first time
in forty years, and in a half an hour, it'll
be number eleven Arizona State hosting Northern Arizona As for
the finals. At number three Ohio State, Buckeyes beat preseason
number one Texas fourteen to seven. Buck guys led seven
(01:03:51):
nothing to start the fourth quarter. Easy wins in the
top ten for Penn State, Georgia and Oregon. Oregon beat
up Montana State, which was in the the FCS Championship
game last year. Oregon led him at the half thirty
eight three fifty nine thirteen ducks. The final at Florida
State Seminoles over number eight Alabama thirty one seventeen and
(01:04:12):
no Nick Saban was not there to save them. In fact,
the ap stad afterwards the coach Nick Saban at Bama
had a record against unranked opponents of one twenty four
and four. Kaylin debor is six and four against unranked opponents.
There currently Oklahoma over Illinois State. That's a final tonight,
(01:04:32):
thirty five to three Illinois State with nine punts and
eight first downs. Indiana, ranked twentieth, got to win against
Old Dominion twenty seven to fourteen, Iowa State fifty five
seven over South Dakota, And in Atlanta it was number
twenty four Tennessee beating Syracuse forty five to twenty six.
Joey Aguilar three touchdown passes, the balls defense with five sacks.
(01:04:52):
Sunday in Atlanta, Virginia Tech against number thirteen South Carolina.
We'll have a top ten matchup Tomorrow night with Notre
Dame at Miami. The NFL's regular season opener is Thursday.
In Major League Baseball, the Yankees have won six games
in a row. The White Sox have just tied him
in Chicago to two against the Yanks in the bottom
of the eighth. Aaron Judge with his forty second homer
(01:05:14):
for New York. Houston is tied with the Angels one
to one in the top of the ninth. Padres now
lead ten to three at Minnesota going to the eighth inning.
Dodgers and Diamondbacks scoreless. Bottom of the second. Philadelphia in
ten innings edged Atlanta three to two. Milwaukee a four
to one winner at Toronto. Victories on the road for
Tampa Bay, Miami, and Pittsburgh, which won at Boston ten
(01:05:36):
to three again halftime. In college football, a top ten
matchup at Clemson as the Tigers of Clemson ahead of
the Tigers of LSU ten three Back to you.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Thanks Steve.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
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(01:06:11):
in this new era of college football where you can
lose to a seven and five team and still play
for the national championship and win it, or lose to
a Eastern Illinois I'm sorry, Northern Illinois and make the
playoff like Notre Dame did last year.
Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Ohio State, of course, famously lost to Michigan. Uh you
want to check you remember that one?
Speaker 9 (01:06:32):
I do?
Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
I do?
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
And you know what to be honest, and I think
about I've been giving out the Twitter all day.
Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
My man a og a one C who has been
in og Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
His avatar as a Bengals hat, but he's big Ohio
State too.
Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
He's been tweeting at us in this slot for you,
in this time slot for.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Years, goes Ryan Day went away from all the mobile
quarterbacks that urban Meyer used at all of his coaching stops.
That's why Ohio State is struggling big games with out
a mobile quarterback. We aren't happy about Day's coaching record.
When it counts, that's interesting. When it counts, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Now it's also interest because this is the question I
was gonna ask you which coach.
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Some of these guys haven't finished their games up yet
as Brian Kelly is coaching today right now, Kaylin de
Boor already done thirty one to seventeen loss to Florida State.
Lincoln Riley, I think they're gonna be okay. They lead
Missouri State forty two to ten at the moment and
LSU right now down ten to three.
Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
First Clemson.
Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Which coach is on the hottest seat in college football
in your opinion? Between Brian Kelly, Kellen de boor Lincoln
Riley And I'll throw a wild card in there, the
number three team you just knocked off the.
Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Number one team of the nation today, Ryan Day.
Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Wow, I'm not gonna go Ryan Day now, although let's
check back in December.
Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I'm telling you I've been doing this time slot.
Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Now for the last three years. People are not happy
with Brian day in general.
Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
It's it's like he's not a coach that inspires in
my opinion, right, Like I never like I watch him
get interviewed. I watch them coach, and but the results
are pretty good. Just one national champions alter incredible. He's
playing Michigan right exactly, which is a big problem. But
(01:08:29):
I'm not gonna go Lincoln Riley. To me, it's between
does Bama field they need to change or does LSU
field they need to change.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
So this is the.
Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Thing that I think that the new college football landscape
is going to We're gonna have to adjust to it
the same way that again, you'll have to adjust to
teams with two losses consist playing for national titles. I
think that's going to become a more and more of
(01:09:04):
the future. I think we potentially may have seen the
last undefeated national champion, right just because now to make
the dance you have, the strength of schedule has to
be pretty high. But I think that the biggest issue
that the buyouts are so big, and before you can
(01:09:25):
pay a quadrillion dollar buyout to link to Jimbo Fisher
if you're Texas A and M, when when the price
of oil goes up over ex per barrel, right, because
all the money that you have coming in, but then
can you also pay for your roster, which is something
that was never figured into the finances before. I think
(01:09:46):
if you had told it, just asked me, I'd say
the hottest seat is Kellen de boor because Steve said.
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Steve just said it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
One four and four against unraked opponents, saving right, six
and four against unraped opponents for Kelen de board. College
football is like this, and O Gaec understands this. I
understand this as a Michigan fan. If you're in one
of these rivalries, if you live this every day the
way that you if you you know one of those
(01:10:17):
died in the wall. College football fans remember the tweet
I read. He said, Ryan Day's record and games that matter,
games that matter, Yeah, because you're supposed to win every
game that doesn't matter. Unranked opponents against API, those are
games that aren't supposed to matter week one or week zero,
(01:10:38):
whatever week it is. The college football that ain't supposed
to matter right now, Okay, sure, I don't think anybody's
crushing Sark today. I mean, just conceptually for losing to
Ohio State. Now, obviously the machinations of such. You can question, sure,
but just the idea somebody had to go into that
(01:10:58):
game and lose it. Only one team's gonna win. But
the buyouts, to me now are so great that you
almost can't fire these guys, like you almost can't fire
coulterbors By.
Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Alabama's a GM or not GM.
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
But AI athletic director was like clamoring for donations earlier
this summer.
Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
I don't know where the money's gonna cut, That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
From Worth, Noting Jimbo Fisher's buy out at Texas A
and M a few years ago. Steve Hartman was telling
me this earlier. It was like seventy two, seventy three million,
and they still decided. Right, So how much we're saying, how.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Much did Texas A and M's roster costs that year?
Couldn't tell you that I know, because none of it
was reported. But you know what I'm saying because now,
but now, you spended seventy two million dollars to send
a guy home, as opposed to send his seventy two
million dollars plus then you.
Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Got to spend seventy t bring a guy in right,
it's it's a it's a tough pill to swallow. And
so we will see how.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
It all plays out, because I think that like Lincoln
Riley's seat should be literally on fire, like the boys
shouldn't be able to sit down at all, Kellen de
Boor's seat.
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
If they come out and look bad the next.
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Two or three weeks, I think that they will literally
start fires in Alabama. And I just don't know how
much it'll matter, because again, if you're not burning something
that it makes us some money, how's it going how
we're gonna pay to get rid of them?
Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
One, what if he goes on a one hundred and
eighteen win streak against unranked AP teams, then now he's
in that saving territory.
Speaker 12 (01:12:35):
So let's not very defense because he's also got to
win the games at mad that's true, but that's the thing,
that's the interesting thing, right, Like, So, my dad's a
massive Georgia Bulldog fan, So I am like ingrained in
like I watch Georgia football.
Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
I pay attention the idea that that Kirby Smart and
now that he's a bad coaching. But the idea that
Kirby Smart has flipped Georgia into being more all Obama
than Alabama. Granted, Nick Saban left so that changes everything.
But watching that switch happen has been kind of mind
blowing to me. And not that Georgia necessarily runs it now,
(01:13:10):
because the SEC does have some really good teams, but
Georgia is the standard. Like Texas gets all the shine
and Texas lost them twice last year. Sure right, Sark
lost to him twice last year, and Georgia got.
Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Uh got screwed out of the playoff, really undefeated game
that they should have probably belous and that.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Team probably would have won the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they they would have had
a good chance. And then you know, you look today
and grant they played Marshall, but you know, Molly wa
gonna look good, like the team look good, so we'll
see if they if they push forward. But yeah, like
the idea that that Bama is in a position where
you don't even know if they want to keep a
coach they just got, that's crazy to me. That's why
(01:13:55):
I think, like, you're right about this whole buyout thing.
You're right about the money, and they like the economy
of college sports has changed, especially college football has changed
in a way. I don't know that you can easily
replace a coach, but I don't think Alabama's in the
whole you know game of Ah, well, we're paying this
guy a lot of money, we might as well see
what he can do. Like, No, they want to win.
Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
No, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It's just the like today in the years past would
have been a disqualification for Alabama. Absolutely, it would have
just been thanks for coming out. We'll see it in
the Capitol one ball. You know what I'm saying. It's
like And so it's just it's hard for me to
adjust to that still because not like they you know,
(01:14:36):
I mean, Florida State last year was a disaster and
I don't know how to transport all that went. But
Florida State last year was it was real bad.
Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Real bad.
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
They were looking at Mike Norvell's buy out, you know,
That's how it was going there.
Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Coming on next.
Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
I wonder if the answer to who you got will
be somebody who eventually was bought out, which is a
dream of mine. If you're going to fire me, send
me home with a lot of money, we'll play who
you got?
Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
What I'm next? Martin White Zach carp on a Fox
Sports Football Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
I tell you what, man, there's nothing better than watching
your football team and knowing that you got a quarterback.
I tell you, is there anything better than that feeling
like when you're going through the desert of struggling with
no QB and you don't know that.
Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Feeling you've been Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. But do you
feel that way about about Brock? Yeah? Do you feel
like when you go out there you feel like you
got a quarterback?
Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
I feel great about sixty a year, fifty five to
sixty years, but I but I feel confident, like, yo,
he can play.
Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
I tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
I Also, it was Jimmy g before that, so I know, yeah,
it wasn't a high bar to clear.
Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
But yeah, Martin White, Zach Carper, you're on Fox Sports
Radio now. I went through the deserts of Davis Warren
for this, and I tell you, I'm in love. I'm
in love. I'm buying a price UNDERWD Jersey tonight at
it before the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Let's play who you Got? All right? Who you Got?
Speaker 7 (01:16:02):
It's been a little bit, so a quick refresher here.
I'm thinking of someone from the world of sports. It
could be a player, a coach, a GM whatever, but
it's someone having to do with sports. I'm gonna give
you guys clues to try and help narrow down who
it is. Each clue should hopefully make it easier, and
by the final clu you should hopefully know who it is.
But the catch is that today we have two, but
it's less clues per guy.
Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
OK.
Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
Let's see if you guys can get both guys I'm
thinking of here. Let's start with the first one here.
Who was a first round draft pick?
Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Okay, Bryce Young? Nope, not Bryce Young. Cam Ward not
cam Ward.
Speaker 7 (01:16:37):
Next clue, I'll say he played nine seasons in the
NFL but never made a Pro Bowl or All Pro team.
Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Ooh, nine seasons in the NFL, first round pick, who
was never an All Pro and never a No Pro Bowl,
no All Pros.
Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Interesting, nine years in the league with a first round pick,
first round, no pros.
Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
You know this. This is a quarterback. This is a backup.
Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
This is a quarterback that probably started a few games
and back it was a backup player. Ryan Fitzpatrick played
way more than nine years.
Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I got to come up with the guests Uh, what
was brock Osweiler? Nope?
Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Oh, man, I don't think you also don't have to
guess if you don't have one to throw on, it's
say David Carr.
Speaker 7 (01:17:27):
Nope, not David Carr. Next clue. He still holds his
school's record for receiving yards and receptions.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Okay, school record for receiving yards and receptions.
Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
So it's a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Nine seasons in the league. First round pick, but never
was All Pro or Pro bowler. Tory Halt was not
a first round pick. No, and he definitely was a definite.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
One of the Mike Williams that wasn't good. No, a
bunch of my Williams.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Not a bad guess you see there in that redline,
Mike Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
I told you he was a first round draft pick.
I'll give you that.
Speaker 7 (01:18:07):
He was the eighth overall pick. And it was in
twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Oh wait, No, I don't think this works. I'll say Crabtree. Nope,
that's not a bad guess. That's not a bad guess
at all. Twenty thirteen. Where was I twenty thirteen graduating
from college? Because my first thought was Mike Evans. Mike
Evans was in the twenty thirteen class. I think the
(01:18:32):
next clue might give it away, so just no, definitely
is not a definitely twenty thirteen Michael Clayton.
Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Nope, Michael Clayton, go for it, you want it? Yeah,
it's the next clue, Next clue. He played college football
at West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Oh oh, this is Tavon Austin.
Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Nice shot. The next and final clue. What him? And
he's famous for his college highlight.
Speaker 7 (01:18:57):
Yeah, table is well done there, all right, next guy,
see if you can get it before the end of
the segment.
Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Here. This guy was also a first round draft pick. Okay,
Michael Crabtree, No, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (01:19:12):
He played his freshman year of high school football in Italy.
Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Yeah, I have a story about Italian football. We could
do it maybe the top of next hour.
Speaker 7 (01:19:22):
Uh, when you find out who it is, you're gonna
understand how unfair it was that he played in Italy
in high school.
Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
It's uh, Campbell, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
He currently holds the FBS record for most rushing yards
after contact.
Speaker 11 (01:19:39):
And as.
Speaker 7 (01:19:44):
I knew he was playing in Italy, he's from like
a military family.
Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Army Brett right, Yeah, yeah, I probably kicked him out
just imagine him just terrorized. Goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
The thing he got was this story was he got
somewhere his junior year, like somewhere in Exus, and they
were like, who is this kid?
Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
And then he got the ball. I was like, it
doesn't matter who this kid is, just run the give
the ball to him. Play. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
Yeah, So the last couple of clues would have been
he never won the Heisman, but he finished second in voting,
just happened to Travis Hunter. And the last clue would
have been he was drafted sixth overall by the Raiders,
which poor kid.
Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Yeah, Raiders fans are mad at me, and guess what,
I love it. Enjoy your commitment to excellence. Two winning seasons,
the last twenty two.
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
I do find you funny that one Raiders fan did
have less than positive things to say about Zach. Understandably
show when he when he puts the position out there
like he does.
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
But the gift was like Marcus Allen, It's like it
was in the eighties, I know. I was like, that's
the thing. They didn't even have memes then, dude, Steve
Hartman was still working for them.
Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
You guys gotta go on, you guys, gotta go on
YouTube to watch some good football.
Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Bat they live in the dream. Is he a bump
or not? We'll get to it next.
Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
That's right, Martin Weiss and Zach Harper on a Fox
Sports Football Saturday. I know this is not the first
Saturday in which we've had football games played, but it's
the first Saturday. I've been here long enough to hear
the Fox Football Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Thing, so you know what it is to me?
Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Opening Day, Opening day, and we opened the day in
the Horseshoe as a big newon kickoff, one of the
newest members of the show not allowed to go in.
Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
You know. Actually, did you all see this? Martin Wis,
Zach Carberrier just k forgot to say that on Fox
Sports Radio. Did you all see?
Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
The Brown Jug is a restaurant in ann Arbor, Michigan,
right there on South University. If you've ever been, I
have several times, but all the restaurants the Brown Jug
is named. The restaurant is named for the game that
Minnesota and Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Play every year. That's the Battle for the Little Brown Jug.
Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Everything else on the menu is uh, you know, like
you have Harboss Cheeseburgers. In fact, it was at the
Little Brown Jug in which Harball had the infamous cheeseburgers
with the with the recruits.
Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
It was at that restaurant.
Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
I would have guess it would been Harbaugh's milk, right, but.
Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
But you know what they have similar? Do you know
what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
They have all of that Brian Greasie's fries or whatever
you name ita milkshake, you know Tom.
Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Brady avocado toast. Uh. So, they had a drink.
Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
And the drink was called buck Eye tears right t
E a r s as in the bottled liquids from
the tears of Ohio State fans as they cry as
they lose to Michigan consistently.
Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Ohio State sued them. They sued the Little Brown Jug.
They sued.
Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
You know what this is, This is a drake can't
beat Kendrick in a in a rap battle, so he
starts suing everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
That's so weak.
Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Make your bar have something against Michigan. Well that's what
you do. You get a litigation, right, that's weak.
Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
That's what the corresponding Columbus bar should have just made
an zero for five drink. Yeah, you know, you know
you put oh.
Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
For five drink or something like that. Oh no, you
know an asterisk.
Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Drink or you know my favorite, the hammers coming down.
You know, say you wait for the NCAA hammer just
coming down.
Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Folks at ten year show calls for Jim Harbaugh reminds
me of the parking ticket got in Canada twenty years ago.
You're never getting that money. All right, back to the business.
Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Yes, arch Manning made his road debut. What you want
to talk about, asterix the amount of times. This is
not his first start. It's not the first time we've
seen him. Who if, if you want to quantify it,
his first something, it's his first road start.
Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
So there you go. There's that.
Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Not the first time playing on the road, but his
first time as the unquestioned starter. Quinn yours believe on
the Dolphins practice squad right now?
Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
That sounds right? Yeah, But either way arch.
Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Manning, bad sign today or bad game today? Which one
do you think? I think it's a bad sign now?
It doesn't look none of this is damning. He can learn,
he can get more comfortable, he can get better. That's
what happens.
Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
No one is the quarterback they're going to be forever
at nineteen twenty years old. But at the same time,
I think you have to really do some mental gymnastics
to find positives in today's game, right, Like a lot
of people are pointing to like, oh, those those throws
in the in the fourth quarter, Like okay, sure, but
(01:24:50):
what about the throws in the fourth quarter, Like you know,
he made a great point earlier that that one where
he threw it to the I think it was a
running back come across through it behind him, got third
and five. Yeah, and that his feet were pulling two
different directions, right, Like there were fundamental issues with him
just setting to throw the ball throughout that game that
(01:25:12):
I don't know, Like maybe it's nerves, Maybe it was
just the moments too big. He'll get comfortable, he'll be fine. Sure,
I'm open to that, but based on what we've seen
last year and today, you can't tell me that you
see a great quarterback prospect doesn't mean he won't turn it.
I mean, look, Josh Allen, Sure, Josh Allen didn't look
(01:25:32):
like anything like this, right, and he and he turned
out just fine. Like he's an MVP like everything, right,
Like that dude is incredible, But he didn't look like
this in college. You know, like maybe Arch will have
another like shift and everything. He'll get the knowledge, he'll
get the comfort, all that stuff, But based on what
we've seen, nothing looks like, Yeah, that dude's definitely an
(01:25:55):
NFL starting quarterback, let alone the number one pick.
Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
So again, and I kind of walked into this, and
I said it on Friday on the A couple. It's
like anybody who says that they know what Arts Manning
is is either lying to you or coaches at Texas
because those are the only people that have seen what
have happened this summer. Those are the only people that
could talk actively about what's happening here.
Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
And I was watching that first half and I felt
like I was watching a coaching staff. Again, as a
Michigan fan the majority of my college football life, I'm
well familiar with this concept coaching around a quarterback, right,
because even at Michigan's height, when I was at Michigan,
(01:26:42):
the quarterback was Denard Robinson, Right, So you're not dropping
back and throwing the ball forty times a game. You're
coaching to his strength. Yeah, you're putting them on the move.
And the first pass that he skipped with fourteen fifty
five left on the game clock in the first quarter.
I'm with you on the nerves part of it. What
I didn't understand. You're on your short yardage, on your
(01:27:07):
own two yard line. Three sneaks in a row. That
is what Michigan with Davis Warren is doing because I'm
not letting my quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Ruin my field position.
Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
The thing that was the most concerning about today's output
by arts Manning to me is that the fundamentals weren't
there and the athleticism isn't there to make up for it.
Like when Giannis entered Takoupo got to the NBA, the
(01:27:41):
athleticism was such and still is to that matter.
Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
That he didn't have to be able to shoot. It
didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Or maybe even a better example is like a Derrick
Rose or the John Wall that prototype Job Moran's the
newest version of this prototypical. I am a six one,
six to two incredible athlete. I can get down the
court that much faster than you. Now, I might shoot
thirty two percent from three, deal with it, because I'm
(01:28:10):
scoring twenty fast breakpoints. That was the thing for me
is where was arch Manning's fast breakpoints.
Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Where was arch Manning getting it? It's in the flow
of the offense.
Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Where were his quote unquote the rebound putbacks that you
can Where is your impact on this game? And it
looked to me that he was more comfortable and most
comfortable while running the ball or on the move. A
lot of the gimmicky kind of stuff that an NFL
team will call gimmicky, where the throwing the ball, the
(01:28:43):
screens to the sidelines, you know what I'm saying, the
RPOs to the sidelines down the field though not so much.
And I just wonder, like, why is arch Manning seemingly
so unprepared fundamentally his footwork looks off like his He's
(01:29:05):
throwing a lot of things side arm like no wondering
like does he practice a lot of different arm slots
like because that over that he does not have an
over the top throwing motion that third.
Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
And five year were talking about. He tried to side
arm it out there like Matt Stafford would.
Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Difference is Matt Stafford's been doing it at a high
level for twenty something years, right, And you know what
I'm saying, It's like he's slinging out there like that.
If you have the arm strengthen all And it seemed
to me that Sark was the RPOs didn't have a
po on the back right like I'm just running they were,
They're just running. Where was the quarterback designed run?
Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Where was it? You know?
Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
And it seemed it just seemed like they left a
lot of layups out there to mix metaphors, but a
lot of throws to the flat that could have been there,
like the other like the curl flat option. I'm like, well, dude,
I think you can probably throw the curl. He's like, no,
I am ripping it to the sideline.
Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Like It's just a lot of that, and that did
not give me like any like good feelings. I'm watching
Bryce Underwood right now, rip the ball down the field,
step in, throw and rip, and I guess a ten
point game against New Back. They were thirty four and
a half point favorites. But I'm watching him kind of
rip it and it feels good. I watched these club
(01:30:18):
Nick and Nussmeyer ripping it and they they're stepping in
throws and feels god, I didn't see that arts today.
Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Yeah he didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
It didn't feel like he was like, I'm like you
knew he's gonna step into the stow, he's gonna step
in the throw. And maybe, you know, maybe some of
this is on sark in that or more of it
than I think. Like maybe someone is like, hey, if
this guy is good on the move and this guy
has some athleticism with his legs and he can get
some yards and everything, then maybe you should be calling
a different game. Or like you mentioned earlier, hey you're
(01:30:49):
running on Ohio State. You're getting four something yards of carrying.
First half, they were reading the.
Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
Running like what do you do, Like, just make them
put nine in the box and then maybe you can
do something with your quarterback to make them pay. But
also from what he saw from from Arch like maybe
he never felt like I'm gonna be able to make
him pay if that happens.
Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
And and I'll give the broadcast or some grace because
because I like, those guys are personal. But Gus Johnson says,
you know, do you ever just want to just let
it loose? And to the point our producer I and
has made several times, and Joel Kladdman on the broadcast, Yeah,
(01:31:31):
Caleb Downs is over there, bro, like this really good
defensive players, So it's less about to me, it's less
about like the fact that they lost or his stat line,
and like I didn't have an issue with that. It
was just he just looked uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
Yeah, I don't mind that they lost. I mind the
way they lost. I don't mind that he played poorly.
I mind the way that he played poorly. Right, Like,
guys are gonna have bad games. You're gonna have a
bad game against a great team likens a great defense
against great defensive players. That's all fine. At no point
did he look confident. And that's what worries me. Like
you say, the nerves on the first throw that he bounces, Okay,
(01:32:08):
that's fine. You can't keep having those nerves throughout the game.
Like at a certain point, it's just got to be
this is what I do, right, And I honestly think
that I feel like I think we're gonna actually see
a lot of this out of the potentially out of
the Bears early on, because with Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
And Ben Johnson, because it feels to me again because
none of us know, because none of us should have
seen him, like none of it is bigfoot, right, none
of us have seen it. Actually happen.
Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
But it feels to me that if you I bet
if you, if the whole game was the two minute drill,
I bet.
Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Ours man ain't be fine. Like if the whole.
Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Game was get to the line of scrimmage, point out
twe or two things.
Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
But you notice and class out of a bunch in
the broadcast.
Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
It's like, you know what Sark normally is doing a
lot more emotion, a lot more pre snap stuff. You've
been sitting there in this offense for two years, man,
where you don't have the pre snap ability to signal
and to see, hey we need to you know, to
go up Lynda Linda Ringo, Ringo like you you don't.
You should be able to speak this language better than
(01:33:17):
you could do aph or doing.
Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Everything your classes.
Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
I mean that's that's the other thing too, is like
people kept talking, well it's his first started in this
first Like no, man, he's been there again. You couldn't
take the job from quinn Ewers like that, dude stinks.
He's not a top flight quarterback. He's not like he's
not an NFL quarterback. He's on a practice squad maybe right,
like like you had the opportunity to take it last year. Okay,
(01:33:44):
you didn't or maybe Sark didn't really want you to
be want to bring along slowly? Fine, then today you
show what you know did.
Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Slowly is off? Now right now it's time to go.
How we're here, Yeah, we're exactly very much like Jerry
Jones had to make the decisions because the decisions past.
I can't tell you why Ris Fanning didn't play when
Quinn rs was out there, but like guy now, it
felt like the answer today was maybe Shark wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
Lying that whole time. We think Quinn gives us a
better chance to win.
Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Yeah, because I think that that game today, if Texas
had above average to average quarterback play, they win it
by a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
I was not overly impressed by Ohio State today. I
was out.
Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
This is what I will is that I found depressive
no penalties, yeah, or if they had any penalties, it
was none of none of no, it was one or
two in the whole.
Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Shing like back breaking right, Yes, saying looked comfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
I'm not worried about JJ dropping the ball, and it
looks like as much as I will talk trash bay
Matt Patrician for the entirety of the time he is
the Ohio State defensive coordinator. Some of the stuff they
were doing around the line of scrimmage was just straight
up nasty. Yeah, okay, I will clap my tip my
cap to that. All right, maybe I'll take my pencil
and scratch my lemonade play call cheat to that. Sure,
(01:35:06):
But outside of that, I was not impressed with. I
think they ran the ball well.
Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
I think Caleb down has played well. The styles brothers
played well in defense. But you're not if people are
gonna go out there and say that's the best team
in college football, I'm still not sold. But I know
it's not Texas right because Texas's quarterback right now can't
qualify to play for the best team in college.
Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
It's why I never bought Texas last year is because
of the quarterback play. And now we're doing that again,
although maybe worse based on what we saw today. Now
he's got three the next three games, he's got a
chance to put together highlight tape.
Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Oh yeah, but that it's not gonna be these three
games the rest of the season, And.
Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Part of me wonders, maybe and I would like it
to not be the case, and maybe this is reverse
engineering it, but maybe Sark was like, look, we're gonna
come out here and treat this like a preseason game.
Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
We're gonna play defense, shopping close.
Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
We know, if we lose this one, it doesn't really matter, right,
it doesn't really matter. And if that is the case,
I just left the really nasty taste in my mouth.
You know something else that leaves pretty nasty taste in
my mouth and is also making its debut in college
football on Monday Labor Day. Oh boy, we'll get to
that boy coming up next. You know, it's a December
(01:36:29):
May relationship. Everything is fine, or is it? Martin Whis's
and Zach Harper Fox Sports Football Saturday, sitting here Martin
Weiss is, Zach Harper our producer.
Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
In is with us as.
Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Well, chime in from time to time, and Steve Decheger
on the updates as Michigan just ran down the field
trying to get into the end zone. New Mexico hanging
in there a bit, but I'll talk about the game
that most of America cares more about. The two Tigers
going at it. Garrettulsmeyer k cub club Nick, it's a
lot of ck sounds in that name. Unfair Clemson and
(01:37:06):
LSU tie ten apiece third quarter, one minute left, just
about with LSU facing a third and eleven. This game
seems to be one to me where we're looking at
a really good defensive matchup, Like that was a good
ball by club.
Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Nick is going to be a penalty.
Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
But I've seen a lot what seems to be a
lot of good balls thrown that ended with the defensive
back putting a seatbelt on. Yeah, Like this has been
a tightly contested matchup here so far and between these
two teams. And do you know how many season openers
(01:37:43):
Brian Kelly has won since he's been at LSU. Oh
at LSU. Yes, I don't think he's won one, that
is correct, The answer is none. And Clemson projected to
be one of the top teams in the in the
nation this year, not just in the ACC. I know
a few small people that picked them to win the
national championship. I know a few other smart people picked
(01:38:05):
Texas to win the national championship. We'll see how they
feel about that. Would you say that you made a
great point and I don't want to steal it, sure,
so if you want to go ahead and say it now,
what you said about arch Manning, and it was about
the way that he played. Oh I would I would
have rather today see him confidently step into throwing four
(01:38:27):
interceptions of just like, Hey, I'm gonna try to make
something happen. I got a cannon, I'm gonna use it.
I know, I got a great defense. I'm gonna make
them make plays.
Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Four tight window throws that went the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Yeah, like four tight window throws and you know what,
I'm gonna air it out. I'm gonna make something happen
here and have it go the wrong way. Then him
look like he was playing hesitant and scared and unprepared
and uncomfortable the whole time. Because you can work with confidence,
Like there's this idea in the NBA. You got a
rookie point guard, You're okay, hay with turnovers. Well unless
(01:39:01):
you Rick Carlisle. He's not okay with rookie point guards
at all. But you're okay with turnovers as long as
it is something like they're trying to make something that happen.
They're trying to thread the needle, they're trying to you
know whatever. Like you can teach those moments, should teach
someone who who doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Yeah, like if you you just saw the second late,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
I mean, if you see it a second get there,
yes exactly. But if you don't see it at all,
if your footwork's all over the place, if you're like
that was the problem with Arch today is that at
no point did I did I think, even on those
two good throws in the fourth quarter, like I mean,
I think you made a great point of maybe he
does just need to be in a hurry up, no huddle,
(01:39:43):
drilled offense.
Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
It feels like they're trying to coach something out of
him because he hung in the pocket at times when
I was like, yes, I know you can run, right,
I know you can run. You're having trouble completing passes.
Let's just be a football player. Be a football player,
go get a first down. And it was very much
(01:40:05):
you could tell he went to the Peyton and Eli
school of sitting in that pocket.
Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
And it just found that fascinating. I about this.
Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Anthony Volpi last two games, four for seven, three run,
scored a home run at double four behind a stolen base.
Only one person in America right now cares about that.
Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
But but that person got what they wanted. They did,
They sure did.
Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
But let's kick it over now to Steve a little
bit earlier if we can, because I want to go
a little bit longer, because we saw Archie's asterisk debut,
if you want to call it that. We're watching Bryce
Underwood's debut right now. But the debut that we've all
been waiting for is Monday night, Labor Day, and we
(01:40:47):
will dive into that and just a minute, but right now,
Steve de Seger.
Speaker 11 (01:40:53):
Good evening once again, and we have an update on
the lopside of game. At Texas Tech. They're in a
long weather delay about an hour in counting. At halftime,
they say the drone show has been canceled tonight will
be moved to a later date, and once they do
resume playing this evening, the game will resume with two
eight minute quarters and that will be it. Because the
(01:41:13):
halftime score is Texas Tech forty seven nothing over Arkansas
Pine Bluff.
Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
They can't just you can't just seem to end here. Yes,
you could end it right here.
Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
I was at Michigan at the time.
Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
They were playing Western Michigan first game of the year
type thing, and it was forty two to ten, and
there was lightning midway through the fourth quarter and they
just said, everybody just go home, right, We're just gonna
this is not gonna be the miracle in that allbody
needs their stats.
Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 11 (01:41:42):
By the way, you mentioned Bryce Underwood with Michigan. Once
he got up to about two hundred and ten yards passing,
the stat was, this is the most passing yards of
Michigan quarterback has had since that rose ball with McCarthy
two years ago. Yes, Michigan is in the lead now,
thirty four to seventeen over New Mexico with about ten
minutes to go. At nineteenth ranked Texas A and m
Aggies had pulled away forty two to seventeen over UT
(01:42:05):
San Antonio with under three minutes left. They just ended
the third quarter of the top ten matchup at Clemson.
LSU is tied at Clemson ten to ten. Number twenty
one Old miss It had thirty nine to seven over
Georgia State late in the third at sixteenth ranked SMU
it is twenty one nothing for the Mustangs versus East
Texas A and M early in the second quarter, and
(01:42:27):
it's Arizona State ranked eleventh already up fourteen to nothing
in the first against Northern Arizona. But we do have
a Kansas State lead on a last minute touchdown. Ranked seventeenth.
They were trailing at home to North Dakota. It is
KSE State thirty eight thirty five in the lead North
Dakota with the ball at midfield about ten seconds left
in that game. Earlier, at number three Ohio State, the
(01:42:50):
buck Geys beat number one Texas fourteen to seven. Texas
was number one in the AP preseason poll, barely ahead
of number two Penn State, which won its home game
forty six to eleven over Nevada that was forty six
to three until the final minute. Fifth rank Georgia beat
Marshall forty five to seven. Gunner Stockton two touchdown passes
and two TV runs. Seven thranked Oregon fifty nine to
(01:43:13):
thirteen winners against Montana State. Dante More, former UCLA recruit,
had three touchdown passes for the Ducks, who never punted
in this game. Florida State won at home against number
eight Alabama thirty one seventeen. Bama had won twenty three
straight openers. Number fifteen Florida has shut out Long Island
U fifty five to nothing. Number eighteen Oklahoma thirty five
(01:43:35):
three winners against Illinois State. New quarterback John Mattier from
Washington State thirty of thirty seven, passing three hundred and
ninety two yards, three touchdowns, one interception at number twenty
Indiana Hoosiers twenty seven to fourteen over old Dominion. Number
twenty two Iowa State won its home game against South
Dakota fifty five to seven. Next Saturday on Fox TV
(01:43:57):
Iowa at Iowa State noon Eastern.
Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Time in Atlanta.
Speaker 11 (01:44:00):
Today, Number twenty four Tennessee was a winner against Syracuse
forty five to twenty six Sunday in Atlanta. Number thirteen
South Carolina will face Virginia Tech. Number six Notre Dame
plays at number ten Miami tomorrow night. The NFL's regular
season opener is Thursday with Dallas at Philadelphia to Major
League Baseball, The Yankees did win their seventh straight game
(01:44:21):
and eleven inning victory at the White Sox five to three.
The Cubs are leading four to three at the Rockies
in the bottom of the seventh. If the Rockies lose this,
their record will be thirty eight and ninety eight this year.
Milwaukee won today for to one at Toronto. Tyler Glasnow
is pitching a no hitter at Dodger Stadium, LA scoreless
in the top of the sixth against the Arizona Diamondbacks.
(01:44:43):
The Padres already finished their game, a twelve to three
win at the Twins, Angels and Cardinals each one on
the road Miami as well. Marlins won at the Mets
eleven to eight. Philadelphia in ten innings beat Atlanta three
to two. They've just started the fourth quarter at Clemson
Clemson Tigers over the LSU Tiger or tied with the
LSU Tigers ten to ten, but LSU is driving.
Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
They're in the red zone. Back to you, Thanks Steve.
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right all off season, but the most interesting debut in
(01:45:43):
college football is happening September one.
Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
I'm sure you pay your rent. Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Bill Belichick is coaching Game one of the North Carolina
tar Heels. People said we'd never get here. I remember
because we had that one million dollar buyout, a one
million dollars whatever it was. They said we'd never get here.
They said, transporport a lot of them. No, twenty five
(01:46:12):
four year old goldfriend, I don't know Pablo Tori is
investigating airbnbs outside of Southeast projects in Massachusetts. But uh,
we're here, We're here, and uh, I honestly am so
very excited that when I saw that Hulu was doing
(01:46:36):
a documentary about it, I fist pumped.
Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
And I was in a work meeting and.
Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Somebody next to me asked what's up and I said, Oh,
they're going to do a documentary on North Carolina football.
Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
And he's like, you realize we're in a work meeting.
I was like, yeah, I'm sorry, I just came across
my time. I'm fascinating and I'm super into it.
Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
Yeah, no way, quick acting fake I port right now,
like we're all wearing hoodies, but I what is your
None of us can make an informed opinion, right none
of us can make an informed opinion, but that's never
stopped us from making opinions before.
Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
It almost never stops. So what do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
What do you expect to see tomorrow or was it Monday?
But then also like in the next few weeks of
the of the Belichick Carolina era, Man, it's weird because, like,
I have no ties to anything North Carolina, right, don't
care one way or another, have at times barely known
they've had a football team. I am nervous nerves because
(01:47:46):
I don't like if this team stinks, if this team
isn't good, and I get it, like you need a
certain level tep.
Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
But like you would think.
Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
That Bill Belichick, regarded by many as maybe the greatest
pro football coach ever mm hmm, he's got to be
able to scheme his way into wins, right, no matter
what the talent is, Like, isn't that Like wouldn't you
expect that from a guy.
Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
That's got what six six rings? Five rings? Six rings?
Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Six with tom yeah yeah, six yeah, he's got six right,
So wouldn't you expect that guy to go into college
football and on some level be able to be like, yep,
this is what I do. I can scheme against any
of these coaches. I can prepare against any of these coaches,
and then eventually you will get the talent you think.
(01:48:39):
But there's for some reason, and again like I don't
care about Bill Belichick at all, Like I'm not a
Patriots fan, I'm not a bi I don't care. But
for some reason I'm looking this. I'm like, it's not
that his legacies on the line that's dramatic. That would
be an over you know, an overreach on here. But
there's part of it that's like there is a bit
of a validation here. Oh yeah, that has to happen.
(01:49:01):
And then on top of that, you have the circus
going on around with his personal life and how that
seeped into everything. I'm assuming she's gonna be there Monday night.
Oh how many times are we? Like you thought you
were sick of seeing Taylor Swift at a Chiefs game
on TV? What would would you put it? If I
put it twenty and a half shots of her wherever
(01:49:23):
she's in that in that stadium, would you take the
over the under? Because I think they're gonna show her constantly,
because you almost have to, I'd go under for Game one,
But man, I don't know, but I she could easily
do something postgame that that would take.
Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Yeah. You know what, that's a good point. You know
what I'm saying for game one?
Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Yeah, there's enough football, yes, Pa to get it. What
if they're getting blown out? What if they're blowing them out?
Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
I know?
Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
Said yeah, So that's what I'm saying, because what if
it's a tight game. It's like, oh, we're so nervous,
let's check on George Hudson. I can see that one.
Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Yeah, but you're telling me a week three blowout and
all of a sudden you George's like, actually there and
now the sideline pieces about it, clip forward.
Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
This is what threw me off.
Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Belichick is eight six with the Patriots as a head coach.
Two is the defensive coordinator for the Giants. What messes
me up is his boat is named eight rings. And
I was like, I remember he had a boat eight rings.
He I was like, Tom has seven visual one with
the the Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
That's what messed me up.
Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
So this is why I ultimately said when Belichick got
the job, this is what I still feel today. When
people made the argument that Tom Brady automatically won the
divorce because he got the super Bowl in Tampa. I said,
I think we might be a little premature here. I
understand that Tom got the super Bowl. However, there is
(01:50:50):
no age restriction on a lot of things, and coaching
is one of them. Right, do you know what I'm saying?
I was thinking to run for president millionaire. You know
you want to coach college football team?
Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Do that too? Yeah? Right, there's no age restriction. Right,
I'm not going to go there. You're looking at me. Look,
I like us. I thought you were about to lob
it off the backboard yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
I don't know where you're going. Honestly, I may have
it in this Nick Young myself. It just turned around.
But there's no age restrictions.
Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
So there is obstensibly age restriction for how long you
can play.
Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
I know it's not hard and fast. There's no rule
about it. But even you Lebron will have to Oh,
did they get him? We're going to Silver Alert.
Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Did they get them? I hope they find them. I
hope they find them.
Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
All right, So, but there's no time living on coaching
coach forever Belichick comes out.
Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
I watched a college football.
Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
Season last year where I said it again, A seven
and five team won. A team lost to a seven
and five team last weekend of the season, went to
the College Football Playoff direct team lost to Eastern y
I keep say Eastern Northern Illinois and went to the
College Football Playoffs Indiana. The Indiana Hoosiers were one of
(01:52:07):
the last teams to compete for a national title. Right
they made the play?
Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
Still doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
So you're telling me that I'm looking at a Clemson team. Okay,
dogfight with the issue. I'm not saying they're bad, good, whatever.
I leave that right there. But the ACC competition I
don't find to be fierce.
Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
I usually have like three teams like you usually have Clemson,
and then maybe maybe Miami will be up there. You know,
I don't know Duke gonna do anything. Like they got
a quarterback, right.
Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
I got it in to Miami, but Miami again lost.
Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
The Miami's number one was at the quarterback was the
number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Yeah, and they played in the Pop tar ball last
year and they replaced them with Carson Beck.
Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
You know, Boiler, Well, Carson Beck will not be the
number one overall pick this year upcoming right, But if
you could tell me that Kurt Signetti can get how
many transfers you got from from UH James to go
to Indiana?
Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
How many transfers does it take for Belichick to then
turn this thing around?
Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Because I agree schematically should be a plus and then honestly,
just like in ability to coach the team should be
a plus because all of these kids in the NFL,
you get traded places, you sign a contract, you have
to be places.
Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
In college football at this point in time. If you
don't want to be somewhere, you do not have to Goudy.
You can go. You can go. So you know, I
guess that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
What's your what service you got at and T?
Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Well, I'm not gonna put mine out, but I just
noticed about thirty seconds later I get the alert, So
I just might have been screwed.
Speaker 7 (01:53:41):
You just asked him on live radio what his is
and then declined because I realized.
Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
I realized as I was about to say it was
like this.
Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
I'm it's not a positive thing I'm about to say,
you know, but this is just a good enough for
a T and T. And you know, my hey, by
the month's carrier, I guess got me where I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
At guilty or not guilty.
Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
We'll do that coming up next edition of Sports Court,
led by judge producer Ian Coming up next, coming to
you live from Fox Sports Radio Studios Martin Weiss and
Zach Harper on a Fox Sports Football Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
Keep it here.
Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Seven minutes from now, you will hear for my dollar,
the best college football wrap up show in America with
Aeron Tours and Jason Martin. They'll be all over this.
And I know that, Aaron, I know you can hear
my voice right now. And that's the auxiliary studio. You're
gonna start with the wrong quarterback days abuse today, go.
Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Start with the one.
Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Start with the real true freshman. Okay, Bryce Underwood in
that debut. Let's play a game of sports cordion.
Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (01:54:54):
So I have a list of people from around the
world of sports that I'm going to put on the
trial here Sports Court. So I'll present their case to
you guys, and then it's up to you, the jury,
to tell me whether they're guilty or not guilty. You guys, ready, y, yes,
all right. First accused here is Panthers GM Dan Morgan.
He stands accused. So After a few years in Carolina,
(01:55:15):
thirty five year old receiver Adam Thielen is heading home.
The Panthers agreed to trade him to the Vikings, his
former team, creating a nice little feel good story. The
thing is, though, we still don't really know what to
think about Bryce Young yet. Did you guys probably agree
in terms of him being a franchise quarterback? Feelin was
one of his favorite targets. So Dan Morgan, guilty or
not guilty?
Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
Not guilty?
Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
I did not do it.
Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Adam Delon is a thirty four year old white man
that's not going to help you figure out what Bryce
Young is or is it. Regardless of what he is,
I do think that Adam Delon has a great receiver,
has been a grave zoover a lot of the long time.
His best days behind them. But if I have no
problem trading.
Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Him, and you know it too.
Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
They replace it with Hunter run from So good to
see him back.
Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
In Another white boy, aging white boy. Yeah, but not
thirty four. He just got the thirty four year old haircut. Yeah, yeah, guilty,
put his ass in jail.
Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
I love that guilty. Yeah, here's it. I don't think
it's for me with Adam Thielen. It's not so much
like what he's gonna do on the field, it's what
can he do in that wide receiver room, right like
teaching the young guys and everything. I think that's that
leaders Like that team has no mentorship, no leadership. That's
what you need. So training, app deals, whatever, replace it
(01:56:30):
with Hunter Renfro, Isn't that?
Speaker 7 (01:56:32):
Yeah, That's what I said. Next up, Dion, Well, thank you, Mary.
Next up, Deon Sanders stands accused. Last night, Colorado lost
to Georgia Tech in their season opener. The thing is,
though they had the ball with a minute and seven
seconds left, had a chance to tie, but Dion curiously
decided not to use his timeouts.
Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
Don't know if you guys were watching or not, but
I was. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:56:51):
There was a two yard pass that took sixteen seconds
off the clock. Another play where quarterback Salter ran for
a first down, but only after taking eighteen seconds off
the clock. The point is they missed their hill Mary
attempts after and about forty seconds of game time came
off the clock in that when Dion had timeouts to you, So,
Deon Sanders guilty or not guilty?
Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Guilty as charged? This was my problem with Colorado the
last two years. Precedural stuff, clock management. It seems like, like,
what's going on here and you don't have a Travis
Hunter to bail you out. I get his logic afterwards,
he said, we got out of bounds.
Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
What you neglect to mention it was third and one.
Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
Your quarterback took twenty seconds off the clock instead of
going across the first down marker getting the first down,
re racking everything. That's why it was ugly guilty dionn guilty.
Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Guilty whatever they're saying he did, He did that. Absolutely
he did.
Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
Yeah, same reason, like it's not yeah, you got out
of bounds everything, but you waste a lot of time
on that final drive.
Speaker 7 (01:57:53):
Next up, Devin Hester Junior stands accused. Now there's a
college football kick returner for Furman named Devin Hester Junior,
and he scored a seventy five yard kick return touchdown
today in his game versus William William and Mary. The
thing is, though he's actually not related to NFL Hall
of Famer Devin Hester, so completely different guy, completely different family.
Devin Hester Junior guilty or not guilty.
Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
Devin, you know who's guilty, Devin Hester. That's what I'm
saying is guilty because like, yeah, that timeline where that fits, right?
I feel like it absolutely does that. Devin Hester, Devin Hester,
the Hall of Fame kick returner, could have a child
that is kick returning.
Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Now, but you still have you just got it.
Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
How many teams recruited this guy because they had to
get this confused?
Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
That's guilty.
Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Put his ass in jail.
Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
You gotta go by dj Hester, that's simple.
Speaker 7 (01:58:50):
Have to you have to, especially I mean well auto wait,
he returned to kick seventy five yards for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
Not guilty, I'm taking it back. Allegations are fun, that's true.
If he had gotten caught, he scored. No, he's Devin
Hester junior.
Speaker 7 (01:59:05):
Well, the fact that he's junior and his dad isn't
the Devonhaster. That means there's three Devon Hesters. Now, ye
know at Jason Football at least we know up here anyway.
Next up, Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban stands accused. Cuban, who's
famously the former majority owner of the Mavericks, recently appeared
on Gilbert Arena's Gilbert Gil's Arena podcast. Uh he predicted
(01:59:25):
that the Lakers are going to struggle this year. Is
he just salty about his former team losing? Luca though,
I don't know Mark Cuban. Guilty or not guilty?
Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
You go first.
Speaker 4 (01:59:35):
I'm gonna say guilty, even if it's true. I don't
think it's for the right reasons that he's saying it.
I think there's some saltiness there. I think they're and it. Look,
you shouldn't have sold the team, then you wantn't looking
to be there forever.
Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
You should have sold. You shouldn't have said, yeah, I'll
take four billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
That's kind of where I land on it. This is
so guilty. Why do you keep talking about you?
Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Exactly? You sold the team. That's on you. You sold
the team. Leave her alone, take your money and go
all right.
Speaker 7 (02:00:09):
Next up, Oklahoma football coach Brent Venables stands accued. Now, oh,
you reportedly took out one million dollars from venables his
salary last season and redirected it towards player revenue sharing.
Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
And nil stuff. You know, whatever you want to make of.
Speaker 7 (02:00:22):
That, according to a university spokesperson, though it was actually
Venable's idea to do it in the first place. Brent
manibles guilty or not guilty.
Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Guilty because I don't buy it was Brett Venables's idea.
Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
But I support the idea of taken a million from
your coach when you're not getting results.
Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
I do too.
Speaker 4 (02:00:37):
I'm saying guilty because that's a real look at me,
Louis situation man that should stay under wraps.
Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
That's like when they said, you know, Harbaugh took a
pay cut, D and coat.
Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Yeah, uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
At that time, you look at Harbaugh's record versus Ohio
State and to look out finished.
Speaker 3 (02:00:52):
Thank you very much. Jason Martin aer Torres up next.