Mike Harmon & Dan Beyer talk NCAA Men's College Basketball Tourney, 18 Game NFL Season, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Fox Sports Sunday. Here
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm not doing it alone. I'm Mike Carmon alongside my
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and of course with Cavino and Rich and then well,
here we are on Sunday mornings, getting after it bright
and Earl.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Let's going on in I don't know they were scoring
more at Yankee Stadium or in Newark for the Elite
eight match up between Duke and Alabama. But my goodness,
what a Saturday it was. What a great Sunday it's
going to be, especially starting it off with you, Mike Carlin.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh, I appreciate that we've got a lot on the books.
We've got Iowa, Sam Here, Shay and of course Isaac
Low and Gronk keeping and at the news desk, the
families together, so we'll play do some games a little
bit later on. Lots going on in the sporting universe,
some of those foregone conclusion kind of moments. Willard takes
the job at Villanova, one of the crazy couple of

(01:17):
weeks of back and forth and verbal slap fights and
disingenuous commentary and upsetting fan bases. And we talked about
him on Thursday, Dan, you were in for Jason Smith
as we sat here in the evening and he was
sweating bullets and using the word honest and honestly, I
don't know. I haven't talked to my agent, which was

(01:38):
exactly the script he'd had three years prior before in
taking the Maryland job. So all of that to say
at this point, just put it in a nice, neat
little box. Shove it in there like one of those
it's a terrible wrapping job, but here here's your new guy.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Go take it.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I blame Nick Saban for all of this, is wal
Mike because when he said he was not going to
the going to Alabama and who was coach of the Dolphins.
We still hold that against Saban, despite the magnificent college
stretch that he had at the Crimson Tide, making him
arguably the greatest college football coach of all time. So
these coaches feel, well, I can't say this and can't

(02:16):
say that in the end, if it's three days after
all of this happened, did he give the terrapins of
the school seventy two hours to make sure they can
spend that extra night in New York City? And once
they couldn't, once they couldn't do that for next Christmas
that he was going to leave for Villanova.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I get not being able to say the things that
maybe you want to say. But to Mike's point, then
why are you bringing honesty. I'm going to be honest
in here when you're not even being honest about that.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, saying that you didn't have any conversations, my agent's
doing this or whatever, like nobody's buying it, like that's
the thing, that's the thing in this day and age
would saban at that point. I'm not saying we were naive,
but there was still this shroud between what was happening
behind the scenes and when you got into the podium.
You can answer the question, and if he lied to us,

(03:06):
we didn't press it right. It wasn't there because there
weren't nine thousand other advisories and reports and studies as well.
This guy went and visited homes here, and this guy
went and did that for those that missed it. Willard,
as part of his rants about what he doesn't have
or didn't have now that he's no longer at Maryland,
what he didn't have was when they played in a

(03:27):
holiday tournament that they didn't get their extra night in
New York City to go see the lights, to go
skating at Rockefeller Center, maybe to see a Broadway show,
or take a ferry out past the Statue of Liberty,
whatever the tourist thing that he wanted to do, channeling
his best Aaron Rodgers, he didn't get to do. So
he was still salty about that, we don't even have

(03:47):
the money.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
To do this.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
I would love to then say to Kevin Willet, how
about your time? You know you're making yet? Yes, more,
maybe the more that he could be making at Villanova
he can send to his now for there players and
allow them now someone are going to move on and
move different places.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
It does.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
It is a little different than will Wade because I
think McNeice was like, all right, we're not gonna win
at all, but I was winning a first round game
and then maybe maybe we could get to the sweet sixteen.
But when he was asked about NC State, which he
is now at, he said, yeah, I talked to them.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
There was no lying there, there was no I love
that he did that, sure, absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like with players and coaches, like, we're in a different
era and I think we all need to, you know,
pull up our pants, you know, since the belt and
just realize the table has changed. So be honest about it.
We know guys are moving. Like all of the stuff
about the portal this past week, to me was just
a joke, right. I think Bruce Pearl had the best, Like,

(04:43):
let's just be honest about it, right, these guys are
supposed to sit on ice for a month trying to
figure out if you know, everybody's making their moves. You
kind of have the you know, to steal from all
the movies and TV shows that do the dramatic end
of season thing. You move the magnetic tiles with the
guy's name up and down, or Friday Night Lights throwing

(05:04):
it in the trash because they're no longer there. I
think we know that's all happening, So don't treat us
like a bunch of kids like answer the question.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Yes there are.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
By the way, there were players in the transfer portal
during the college football playoff right as well, so they're now.
It may not be the top of the top players,
but there's third and fourth string quarterbacks that know that,
all right, my time isn't maybe going to be here,
I'm going to enter the transfer portal.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
It was just still with the team, just like these
players are.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
So it's not necessarily for it, and I think it's
a great spot at a point by Bruce Pearl is
you know there's three hundred and sixty SUMIDD Division I
schools out there, and right now there's only right at
the time, there are only eight or sixteen playing in
that tournament, and maybe ten or twenty others in other tournaments.
So that leaves you three hundred and thirty schools that
are already on the next year.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Why should they have to wait?

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for today's actions. Two more games is we punch more tickets.
So I'm gonna use every euphemism and cliche that I

(06:12):
possibly can to set it up Tennessee in Houston, where
I think you and I may score more. Sitting at
this desk, I think the over unders one hundred and
twenty four the last time. And then we get the
Spartans and Tigers later on Michigan State and Auburn. That
one's a little later on this afternoon, but one of

(06:33):
the games that had our rap attention, and you and
I we lived and died watching the the Thursday games.
You know, all the complaints after the first weekend. We
didn't have anything close. We didn't have the big buzzer beaters.
The only thing we had was the aforementioned Maryland Terrapins
and the you know, was the dress blue or black?
Did he walker? Did he not? And then we get

(06:54):
into Thursday's game and watching collapses we had We did
have the Patino story. That was interesting, and now R. J.
Lewis says goodbye and they put out the statem and hey,
go to the NBA that'll be great. It's like, well,
he's getting away from you, like it's really after being
vent for those five minutes, he's gone.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
No matter what, he just will not be back in
New York City.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Whatever the case may be. But yesterday another one of
those fortunes. And and and we're gonna do a check
in on you here because while coming in late, let's
let's talk about the Gators because we had a little
bit of heroics on our end.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
My goodness, my goodness, my, my goodness. Out back toward
to Clayton makes the catch. It suck, have to dribble
out of trouble.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
And the paint packs up, turnspires and break for the
top is gone.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Clayton's got twenty eight Florida leads by one.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Want to shock by Walter Clayton.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
My goodness, one of those ridiculous things you do to
someone on a playground. Right, I'm gonna dribble back out
here and just turn and fire. Kind of moments. Clayton
finishing strong. We had a nine point lead late in
this one for Texas Tech, and then suddenly everything went south.
Poor movement of the ball, poor shooting, defensive lapses, and

(08:09):
Clayton channeling his inner Steph curry up there in San
Francisco to finish the job.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
And you're absolutely right, because that's what Walter Clayton looked like,
especially on the key three that you saw in the
highlight there.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
This is the funny thing about the tournament that I think, Mike.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Because you're right, Arkansas for entertainment purposes, only ripped my
heart out on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was not entertaining though, I I mean it was
because the game, like it became this cat and mouse
game of all right, can they finish this? Can can
you grind out those final minutes? But I'm in the
studio with you, and I'm like, that's not fun for
you and certainly for me watching it. You're my friends,
longtime college, We've done a lot of shows, we do

(08:50):
the podcast together. We know each other's families and lives,
and I don't know, that wasn't terribly.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Fun Survivor Pool Dead like that. So there it was
Survivor Pool Dead to go to Saturday. And then and
then the story, the story out of Thursday honestly was
Calipari sure, and what a what a collapse it was
by Arkansas to be up sixteen that the stat the
night's second largest blown lead.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
We've seen, and then La was the yeah seventeen.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, they came back against Gonzaga in like two thousand
and six when you had the game. Then on Saturday
between Florida and Texas Tech when it's not against cal
in Arkansas, it's amazing comeback. But I actually think Texas
Techs collapse is actually worse than what Arkansas ended up

(09:39):
providing on Thursday night. Mike just for the simple fact
of Florida was down nine and he raced the deficit
in three straight possessions and then ended up winning by five.
At least Arkansas got their game to overtime and then
or you know, I had a chance to win it.
At the end of regulation, Texas Tech is sitting there

(10:02):
under three minutes to go. They are up nine in
this game, and boom three, boom, another three, boom, another three,
and what do you know, Florida's now tied and Florida
ends up closing the game on a crazy run. And
that's the tournament, and that's what you get with personalities.

(10:23):
But when you look at what happened over those seventy
two hours, it's funny to me that Arkansas is a
collapse and Florida's just looked like the comeback because those
are the brands that we're talking about. But man, Texas
Tech falling on their face like they did and doing
it so quickly, you miss They were all out the
free throw line, missed a couple of front ends of
one and ones, and then Florida got the open threes

(10:45):
and the Walter Clayton shot. He was great, he was magnificent.
There's nothing to take away from him. But also, if
you're Texas Tech in that spot, I'm sure you're trying
to do everything that you can to make sure that
Walter Clayton doesn't get a shot, and they did on
the first two threes.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
He didn't. Someone else hit the threes.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
But then Clayton comes back with the game tire, and
then by then once it was tied, it was basically
over with.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So we get the big comeback. The other game yesterday
in a laugher, and this one, I think you breathed
a little bit easier in terms of projections prognostication as
duke with a decisive win to push forward, and now
we've got two number ones waiting the other end of
the bracket today and it would be the first well,

(11:30):
it would only be the second time in history going
back to what two thousand and eight, Now we would
have had all four number one seeds. So all of this,
I mean, I feel cheated if I get all number
one seeds to a degree, right, we did all this
work for wide the fourteen.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, there they are anyway, I mean I feel cheated.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
In the Elite eight, we had you know, three one
to two matchups and then the one one three yesterday
by the way, and talking about the history, and I
heard Isaac mentioned, you know, John Shire's first Final four
as the head coach of Duke and you remember that
they went to the final four and coach case final
season ended up losing to North Carolina in twenty twenty two.
But I completely forgot that Florida made the Final four

(12:11):
in twenty fourteen. So when they were talking about the
the like going in the way back machine, I'm like, oh, yeah,
I was probably back when they won back to back
national champion.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Joking, Noah, playing harder than anybody else.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Hey, Florida, I completely like they're at number one seed
that year they made it to Dallas. That was the
year that that Yukon ended up beating Kentucky in that
seven to eight National championship game. But Duke is amazing.
You knew that Alabama wasn't gonna hit twenty five three.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh that's it, right, But to hold them as they did, yeah,
to a thirty five percent clip for the night. Sure, my,
just absolutely incredible.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Once again, I think the tournament's over.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Like I think that no one is going to be Duke,
Like there's it's not going to be Tennessee or Houston,
whoever plays them, it's not going to happen. Florida appears
to maybe not be playing their best basketball despite their
winning their take into the wire with Yukon. Remember Dan
Hurley felt that they got screwed a little bit. Yeah,
like what Texas Tech was able to do to him.

(13:07):
I don't know if Auburn's playing their best basketball. They're
all good teams, but no one is remotely playing at
the level at Duke, and Duke's going.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
To get fall calls unlike other teams. Sure they're not
gonna be able to beat them up the same way
in some of these, as you affectionately called them, rock fights. Yes,
we've got elsewhere. Duke with their eighteenth Final Four appearance
coming up, if I saw the math correct, So we've
got that going on. And just to punctuate the Caliperi
thing is because we built him up again, so we

(13:36):
had to start chipping away. So it was his collapse
exactly right opposed to Wow, what a comeback against Calum
Perry's Arkansas.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
What a difference of narratives.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
I just think that yesterday's was and I think it's
maybe because it's Texas.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Tech and it's not the brand.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
It's also like Florida just did it, boom boom boom,
and next thing you know that you're tied, like it
was a nine game and three possessions later, you missed
a couple of free throws and now it's tied. You're
just you're kind of dazed in the truck.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, you do. You get punched in the base, you're
trying to get you're seeing stars.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
But we looked at what a great comeback by Florida
at all talking about the quick collapse and demise of
the Red Raiders.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
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(15:01):
to get that momentum again. I'm doing my little Dante
Kulpepper move that he used to do when they'd have
a big first down. The video people see it. For audio.
It made for a pretty good dance move. You'll just
have to take my word for it. We talk about it,
Roger Goodell, the owners, players, everybody coming to the table.
What needs to happen, We'll tell you next.

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Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's a karaoke time. I mean, it's still early on
a Sunday. Maybe you're at a nice Mimosa brunch on
the East coast globally, maybe you're getting ready for a concert.
I don't know. Here on the West Coast, folks just
crawling out of bed and wiping the sleep from their eyes.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Dan, fire Gator fans doing the same, probably celebrating up
in San Francisco, still doing their chop. I do have
to say I even short changed the Gators on their run.
I said three straight threes. It was four.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
The highlight we played put them up by one.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Thomas how get the first two Clayton step back was
the one that actually gave him a one point lead
after Texas Tech scored.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
But boom boom, boom boom. I just needed another boom
for the game.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
You know, you know what? It's five big scale though, Dan,
you can't stop it. Four Oh you don't know the
TikTok guys. No, you guys know those clowns, right, I
say that with all great respect.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Ship booms.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Who are these five big Boomsco guys.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, it's a whole other cookie. You don't want it
in your.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Time, I'll sell you I bragg, don't worry. I'm sure Dan.
It's we bring the boom. It's Cobe and Richards.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
We bring the boom. The dad who's all jacked up. Yeah,
and then you've got Big Justice, Big Justice. Hey, these
guys have served. And then you got this little Kidzler.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
It was okay because he's not actually related.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah yeah, fact they're not related, but they're.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You got the father the son, and then you got
you know.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
The Rizzlers just and the Holy Rizzler.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Nicely done as we are in the lent and seas,
we get the Holy Rizzler Sam bringing the heat. But
they've they've made a ton of money off of this.
So it was basically, here's the review. You know, take
a bite of this. Would you prefer the double chunk
chocolate cookie from the food court or the chicken bake?
And then the rating scale was.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
The five five booms? Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
So we got to four? What can we get to
a fifth boom?

Speaker 5 (17:38):
For days?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I think it's gone to my algorithm and I just
have slid past it because I see the other one
of like the the family, like they're they're totally it's
totally made for TikTok and they do skits and that
stuff's just not for me. So I skip past them
as well. But I just didn't see the Five Booms.
I actually feel left out. Everybody here's like, yeah, we
all though what it is?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, live in blissfully good Dan,
because once it finds your timeline, it'll never leave. Because
they started showing up at aw wrestling shows. They've thrown
out first pitches, they've you know, sounded cannons and alarms
and whatever else these teams do to start a game. Yeah,

(18:21):
and then you added the mom and the sister that
came in. And as soon as you add the mom
and sister, guess what kind of cesspool that becomes. It's
one thing to chuckle with these guys. Yeah, then you
add the teenage daughter. No bad things, man, people are
bad people out there. Repent Repent, right, Sam, Repent for
your thoughts? All right? Roger Goodell, the campaign to add

(18:43):
an eighteenth game, The Inevitability. I think we're all it's
it's kind of like Thanos and the Snap. It's I
am inevitable. Right, We're getting there. It's just a question
of how do we massage the season, how do we
massage the money so everybody feels whole. Right, the collective
bargaining agreement like they could force it, but why do that?
Why be acrimonious if you don't necessarily have to. So

(19:05):
let's figure it all out, try to assuage any issues.
We're watching a little UFL. They literally had to send
a letter to Dwayne Johnson See Wrestling comes Back the Rock,
who's part of the ownership group of it, saying, look,
we're negotiating in good faith. We're gonna play to start
this season.

Speaker 8 (19:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's part of a dual thing. Fox and ESPN have
the broadcast rights there, but a lot of it is
about compensation and looking at the scale and season and expectation,
et cetera. Same thing that the NFLPA does. But that
eighteenth game is coming, and now we're just trying to
figure out exactly how it gets implemented.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Charles Robinson or Yahoo's Sports saying talks are going to
and then his words intensify at the league meetings that
actually begin today about an eighteenth game and to Mike's
point about the CBA. It is a bit of a
balancing act, but the league wants to do it before
twenty nineteen, where you can have an opt out of

(20:02):
the CBA, and at that point, now you're negotiating and
not taking advantage of what you do have in the
current collective bargaining agreement to expand to eighteen even if
the NFLPA has no interest in doing so.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
I'm a little weary.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
I am like, just on the surface of that, I
didn't think that we would. It's a lot of football
like it is, and when we're talking about players and
whether they want to play or not, I don't think
we're going to see less effort in an eighteen game season.
I do wonder about the injury toll, and I just

(20:41):
wonder about the popularity. The one great thing that the
NFL had over the NBA. They've got a lot of
advantages over the NBA in over Major League Baseball, but
it was also the short season of it, and I
do feel that expanding to seventeen games, expanding the playoffs,
or now it's a three night affair for a wild

(21:03):
card weekend, because now you have a Monday night game
and you've got a tripleheader on Sunday. It is a
lot more football, and I get it, people love it,
but I just wonder at what point is it too much?
And I felt for a while that maybe the expansion
of the playoffs was going to take the place of
that eighteenth game and allowing them to get two more

(21:24):
teams into the playoffs. You get two more games with
it take away a buye from two of the better
teams of the conference. But apparently that is not the case.
And I just wonder at what point is too much football?
Something with then.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Trying to figure out your saturation point because you add
another game. We talk about the calendar and now we're
going deep into February, or do we get back to
where we're playing a week before Labor Day? Yeah, add
the extra components because there's going to be another bye
week mix there in right, that's part of the fight here.
And I know the players and their current head Lloyd

(22:00):
holl Junior quote, No one wants to play the eighteenth game. Again,
it's always the value proposition. You take the strongest stands.
Let's see how they count. Sure, right, And a lot
of it ties back to, well, we've got more and
more partners coming in on the TV and expansion side there,
with more money coming in from Netflix, more money coming
in from Amazon, et cetera. So you're trying to tie

(22:20):
this all together to keep everybody happy, play nice sandbox
with the number of games, But when we look at
an eighteenth game, damn. It also begets conversations about what
we're actually doing within the schedule, right, And that's where
I've always had an issue with. All Right, the division
is saying you know, the sanctity of the divisions, And

(22:41):
we've had a lot of that fight the last couple
of weeks, talking about should a team with a lesser
record host a playoff game? Okay, as long as you
have divisions, you're never going to convince me that they shouldn't, right,
because the division is supposed to matter. So saying hey,
I'm sorry you went fourteen and three, but you were
second in your division. Hey, those are the breaks that year.
It didn't work for you, and it did work, But

(23:03):
I think part of that is the problem becomes we
don't play enough division games. We're playing seventeen games a year,
you only playing six in division. Now we're gonna go
to six out of eighteen like there's no jew like
there's there's no weight on it. Right, the division is
supposed to be all but it's a third of your schedule.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
I and just to that point, which by the way,
is going to be discussed because of the proposals that
are put ahead put forth the ownership at the league
meetings this week. It is not expected to change the
playoff format. They are not expected to only go to
a full seting via record. And to your point, Mike,
the division winner in the worst division winner of the

(23:46):
four would still be the four seed. My only issue
is that the four seed then would continue to host
games throughout and could trump any of the other wild cards.
If you have chaos like we actually have seen in
a few brackets where all of a sudden, okay, the
one seed loses, the two seed is upset that the
that a nine and seven division winner, or excuse me,

(24:08):
a nine and eight division winner seventeen game schedule would
have home field and manage over every round over a
team that's fourteen and three. I get it for the
first round game. If you want to give them that,
that's fine. I don't think like it with Minnesota, and
I know they were bounced out early. I don't think
that they should be on the road for the entire
playoffs if they end up having a matchup later on

(24:30):
in the bracket with a team with the worst record,
Like I think, like, if you want to give them
that first round playoff game, I'm totally fine with it.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I want the division winners to run as far as
they can.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yeah, yeah, I got different on that point.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
And look, it's not one that it's the I'm planting
a flag and I'm trying on this hill. I just think,
you know, there's again, if we're going to stay in
the division world correct that you know, to make it
take it kind of thing. Come and take it from.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Me and your but your point about the schedule is
the reason why I also feel that maybe it should
be to the fourteen and three because as it is
right now, we're laying so much credence to the division,
but you're only playing six division games, you know, against
each other, you know, for that and and the point
that that is at the base of all of this

(25:15):
is it looks like it's an even schedule when you're
facing every team from the AFC South or every team
from the NFC East that year, whatever your division is.
But to Mike's point, you have injuries throughout the year.
It's a long season. A team in week one is
different than a team in week seventeen. What'd you say
your Bears played? Was it three?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
The first three games south? Right?

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
And then you're playing backloaded a bunch of division games.
And we've seen the nonsense you and I doing the
iyewatch Reflex podcast and chuckling about it's like, hey, you
know what, we have a very recent data point to
talk about these teams because they played ten days ago. Right,
we have a lot of those like all right, here's
week fourteen, play someone else, come back sixteen, Like we

(26:01):
see that on the schedule so frequently that it's an
look and I. It's an arduous task, There's no question
about it. That algorithm has got to be one of
the longest bits of code you could possibly put together.
Trying to make it make sense. Look to travel miles,
look for schedules, open dates, taking into account everything TV

(26:21):
wants and where they're fighting for best teams and best
product on air, et cetera. That it becomes this gargantuan,
herculean task. But all of that to say, as it stands,
there's a lot of problems with the way schedules go. Yeah,
and to your point, like, I mean, how many teams
like you can't do what the Bengals did this year

(26:44):
and think you're getting in right. Used to be for
the Patriots, they'd win ugly, but they were winning sure
right September, Like there's no ramp up, Like for as
much as they say, well, you know, it's a long season,
you'll get in there, it's like, no, those games all
matter that much more so, I guess you know, to
your to your initial thought of is eighteen the tipping point?

(27:04):
Like where is it like physically right, because you're gonna
have to have talks about roster expansion, extra quarterback you
know it is available or whatever the thing becomes that
you know, it really is an unwieldy kind of topics
as simple as it is, all right, there's an eighteenth game, Like,
there's so much in the ramifications of it.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
All right, So in your perfect world, if they went
to an eighteen game schedule, Yeah, how would you want
the division schedule set up?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think I want to I want it to be
at least half right, So I want a third game,
I think, Okay, I think I wanted third division game.
Now I know that that reeks havoc with the other
nine games, perhaps in terms of the scheduling algorithm and
making it make sense. Once upon a time I tried
to do this when we were at Yahoo and trying
to bring divisions into fantasy football before really smart people

(27:53):
got involved. I was charged with this and we found
a system and it worked, but it was still like
we were basically doing it for fantasy football playoffs, but
and for scheduling there to try to make it all
make sense. But like, that's the thing, right, you got
to figure out the other nine games that way. We're
at least at half are in division, so we can

(28:14):
legitimately say, okay, at each third of the season you played,
you played these squads.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Right, Yeah, I'm completely fine with that.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
You could with the expansion of the NFL's overseas schedule,
you could find places to play in different spots, right. Sure,
now you're not going to have so many different spots
that you're playing all of these games, but maybe on
a rotating basis, you play a home in a way,
and then you go and play in Brazil for one
of the games. Whatever the case may be, there's ways

(28:45):
that you could work. I'm looking at the eighteen game
schedule in a much more drastic way, Mike, and I
blame Major League Baseball for this, because Major League Baseball,
and you know, I had a problem with it on
opening Day, they want interleague play to be natural, right,
and I just it is still unnatural after decades of

(29:07):
interleague play. Seeing the Dodgers and Tigers have a home
opener in LA, not their opening day, but for the
Tigers it was. To have the Tigers Dodgers playing interleague
baseball at opening day weird to me. If it weren't
for the Brewers being in the American League for all
those years, Brewers Yankees would have been really, really weird.

(29:28):
So I'm not a fan of interleague play. So while
everybody is zigging, what isn't the NFL zag with an
eighteen game schedule. AFC plays AFC, NFC plays NFC. You
play your division opponent twice and then you've got twelve
other games to play. If you're in the NFC North
like the Bears, you play everyone in the NFC East.

(29:50):
Once you play everybody in the NFC West, ones you
play everybody in the NFC, the South ones, you don't
cross pollinate. So when the Super Bowl comes, it is
AFC versus NFC.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
We have no rematches, no data point.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Correct, you have no idea what's going on over there.
Let's bring back some history if you really want to
do something different, because I've been one that I've wanted rivalries.
I wanted the Giants and Jets to play every year,
but the NFL doesn't seem like that's a good idea.
I think it would be a great idea. Fine, if
you want to take that idea, take this idea, and
then guess what if your Bears or my Seahawks aren't

(30:26):
in the super Bowl. Maybe there's something called NFC pride.
Maybe you have a Jets cold super Bowl three where
you don't know really how good this team is compared
to this other team. If you're gonna do that, want
to go completely off the board and have a season
or multiple seasons whatever, where the NFC only plays NFC,
in the AFC only plays AFC.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I like it. We'll have to do all sorts of
video games simulations. Can I expense that he's Dan Bayer
at Dan Bayer on Fox? An I modest proposal here
on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
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desk and our guy Isaac lowand Grando's going to update

(31:18):
us on the bull riding.

Speaker 7 (31:21):
I'm actually.

Speaker 9 (31:23):
Really wanting to update you on the status of that
great idea by Dan Bayer.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
That is a really good idea like that.

Speaker 9 (31:31):
In fact, I'm just looking for NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell
great job to issue a statement complimenting buyer for that
great idea, because it's exactly right. It's like the American
League in the National League when there was no interleague play,
before the World Series.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Before peanut butter and chocolate became a thing you had
to mix together.

Speaker 9 (31:50):
The problem is it's such a good idea it makes
too much sense to ever happen.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
Most good ideas.

Speaker 9 (31:59):
A lot of ideas perollating in college basketball today, specifically
with the coaching carousel. Because it's official, Villanova has endeared
hired Kevin Willard as its new head coach. Willard leaves
Maryland three days after coaching them in the Sweet sixteen
at a lost to Florida. Now for context, here's what
Willard had to say when he was asked about the
Villanova job after a Thursday's game.

Speaker 8 (32:21):
I don't know what I'm doing. I'll just be honest
with you. I haven't talked to my agent. I even
talked to my wife. I made a promise to this
team that I was gonna just focus on this team,
and that's all I've done. So I haven't talked to anybody.
I have an agent. I'm sure he's talking to people
because that's what agents like to do. But you know,

(32:42):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Well with that.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I was a real boy.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
He didn't talk to his wife for a week.

Speaker 9 (32:53):
So today, guys, Maryland fans are graciously wishing Villanova well.
In the comments section of the post announcing Willard's higher
oh boy at terp Nation twenty four, posting good luck
with that lion weasel lol at d C. Barnow commenting

(33:16):
deceived his team through the university under the bus, scapegoated
a website, misrepresented the entire situation, and never took an
ounce of responsibility. Good reddance, And finally at DC Sports
Supernova simply posting, enjoy the scumbagos hard.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
We actually have a Sunday I know it is. You're right,
it's a Sunday morning.

Speaker 9 (33:40):
We actually have even more college basketball coaching news because
New Mexico has just hired away U See San Diego
head coach Eric Olin, who just led you See San
Diego to the NCAA Tournament in its first year of eligibility.
And finally in Major League Baseball today, the Toronto Blue
Jays plays pitcher Max Scherzer on the fifteen day injured
list with right thumb inflammation.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Guys craziness at Isaac Lohan Crod where you find him,
Angel City FC play by play, doing some work with
the Chargers and of course blessed to have them with
us each and every week. With us here, we've got
Iowa Sam at the Ones and twos Shay our executive
producer Dan Bier with me. I'm Mike Carmen coming up next.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Let's do a.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Little bit of a throwback Sunday in baseball. What's it mean?
We'll tell you next.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday. Mike, Karmen,
Dan Byer with you here, bright and early, getting after it.
Here's the giant stick microphone so we can get after
it all.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Right, A happy Sunday to all of you out there.
As we're close to winding down March, why do not
get the Fox family together and play the feud? Yeah,
but the feud on Thursday night. Let's do it again,
hopefully with a better outcome. Mike Game TWA, Sam Producer, Shay,
and Isaac Lohenkron make up the Fox Family.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Top seven answers on the Ball.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I just gave you my NFL idea for an eighteen
game schedule, and it was on the heels of Major
League Baseball and interleague play. Well, there was a time
and there wasn't interleague play. In fact, there was a
time where the divisions didn't even look like they do now.
What I want to know, fam, I want to know
what the NL West looked like in nineteen ninety three,
give me the seven teams that made up the NL West.

(35:22):
Isaac Glohankron jumped out of his seat. These seven teams
making up the NL West in nineteen ninety three, Three
strikes in a pass available. Mike Harmon, your first.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Up, nineteen ninety three. Wow, let's go all the way back?
Is that the first year of Todd Helton and the
Colorado Rockies?

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Is that the first year of Todd Helton and the
Colorado Rockies? Mike Harmon, show me the Colorado Rockies. What
a poll expansion season? Colorado Rockies off the.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Board, trading cards for the Windar.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
To Iowa sam teams in the NL West nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
I will go give me the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Show me the LA Dodgers, Los Angeles Dodgers, a member
of that division.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Back then over to Shaw.

Speaker 10 (36:12):
I don't know. I only have diamondbacks in my have,
but I know that's not it.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
Oh gosh, kids, these days twenty five years old.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
For the listeners out there, just wow, we're born.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
What your show? Two thousand, two thousand. So this is
in nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's still Sunday morning here on the West Coast. So
I'm not gonna say what I wanted to say. I'll
get bleeped.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
I'm gonna say Diamondbacks. You're gonna say diamond Say is
it the Diamondbacks. No, do not come into the league
until what nineteen ninety six? Was it around that pix
or seven year Yeah, nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, they nineteen
ninety eight, that's what it was. Yes, all right over
to Isaac Glowing Cross.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
Shay gen Zers, TikTokers. You're not going to believe this,
but back in nineteen ninety three, the Atlanta Braves were
Nationally West.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Show me the Braves there they were.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yes, they were member of the nl West at that time.
Back around to Mike Harmon, here you go.

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Speaker 5 (37:42):
Show me the San Diego Padres.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Yes, they were a member of the NL weston nineteen
ninety three, founding member of that division.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Over to Iowa, Sam, I'm gonna go with the San
Francisco Giants.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
San Francisco Giants, pretty good guests, West Coast team. Show
me the Giants. There they are in at number two.
All right, Shay.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Two answers left for the kid born in two thousand.
Two answers left.

Speaker 10 (38:14):
All right, we did Giants already, we did Padres already,
we did Braves, We did Dodgers, yep, and then that's.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
It, right, Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Braves, and Rockies. Looking for
two other teams.

Speaker 10 (38:25):
I know teams Rockies thinking oh Tech, Oh.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
There is a pass available if you would like.

Speaker 10 (38:34):
No, No, I got us, guys. I think the young
guy got us right now? Can we put up Astros?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Baby?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Show me the Houston Astros. Yes, I'm representing gen Z
pretty well right now. I think the young.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Kids are like, you go share Shay. Alright, A is old.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
We're just gonna let that go.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
I have a problem, all right.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Final answer up for Isaac Glohingkron Can you seal the deal?

Speaker 7 (39:04):
Marty and the pictures.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Hit in the air foul off first?

Speaker 6 (39:07):
Benzinger backing and calling at the nineteen ninety World Championship
belongs to the Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Show me Marty bren him in in the Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, how about that? About that?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I would that time the break will teach you about Watergate.
Show my man, you gotta keep off that third rail.
Come on, keep it going.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
At Isaac Glowing Crown, We've got Shaye, We've got our
guy Iowa sam As.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
We come to you from the Tirak dot Com studios. Surprise,
we got there. I'm impressed. I'm glad that you did.
I never want to trick you guys. You guys work
through it well. The Diamondbacks was a good guess. That's
actually when Major League Baseball went into their new division format,
like it was so you.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Know I love first mover InterNations. We have one going
on in Major League Baseball. How quickly can other teams
rectify things? And should it be legal at all? We
discussed next, let's get it on. You want fireworks. We
got the women's NC Double A games coming up today,
Wars of words, still holding on to some disparaging commentary

(40:18):
going back to an LA Times article of a year
ago in the pressers. So we get some fiery language
and now for some fiery play, no doubt. Later on today,
as we get ready for more action on the hardwood,
we get two more NC DOUBLEA men's games for your
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(40:42):
can hold serve. Welcome in. It's another edition of Fox
Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio Mike Carmen alongside the great
Dan Byer at Dan Byer on Fox Last Hour, one
of the great ideas. He's an idea man, He's the thinker.
He's like Michael Keaton walking around a night shift with
his little recorder, coming up with the ideas. Put the
mayonnaise in with the tuna fish. That's what Michael Keaton had.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
Well, Dan Meyer had the proposal for the NFL as
they talk about the eighteen game schedule and what they
should do. All of that is the big build up
to the podcast, and that you can write him back
at Dan Meyer on Fox. He's still my radio radio
right sitting next to me on my left. I will
say this that it may rub you the wrong way

(41:26):
at first, but if you fully embrace it, it is
an idea that I think could change football and one
that I believe Mike would bring a new passion to
the game that we haven't seen in fifty some odd years,
fifty plus years.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's all about storylines. Now, just go sell the TV
guys in the advertiser. That's what we need to do.
We need to be able to kill off the crosshold
because we talk about the scheduling, right, we're talking about
the interleague play with baseball.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Like.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Nothing infuriates me more than let's have all these marquee
matchups one and two when we haven't ye football like,
teams are not whole, right, they're just coming out of
the gates because they've done some you know, courtesy snaps
in the preseason. So those games are usually pretty choppy
and sloppy. So it's like all right, let's do it.
Let's put these heavyweights in week one and then we're

(42:17):
going these are the best we got, right.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I remember when the Browns and Buccaneers both stunk in
the NFL. Put the Browns in Tampa in week one
and it was like, all right, that makes sense. They
both have hope. Let's just get this one out of
the way because in week sixteen, this is not going
to work. By the way, speaking of not working, my
proposal will never work. But if you'll allow yourself to
have fun with it, I think it could grow on you.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
See, I think it's too logical.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
It's too logical, but it's also the NFL. They would
never do it, not in a million years, even though it.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Kind of happened fifty seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
All I can say is I really did like because
it started with a slap backhand slap to Rob Manford
in Major League SAIS. So it's all good. We're broadcasting
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Now I won't go one hundred and sixty two and
oh Thursday was my day, right that buzzer beater Josh
Giddy against the Lakers. The Bulls sweep the season series
the White Sox one on opening Day against the Angels,
and then get shut out on Saturday, one Noil.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
We'll see how what season giventh the season take it.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
So you know, all those thoughts of we're gonna cross
that fifty three and a half, forget about it.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
But one story that did translate in a big way.
We love the long ball all these years later, no
question about it. And now we got a little bit
of a controversy and discussion point flowing out of the
Yankees Brewers game in case you missed it, twenty to nine.
And here's one of the big effects along the way.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Two balls, one strike, Thomas to the play, pick swung off, fly.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Ball left field te te te Hey. Now goodbye grand
slam Aaron Judge.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Grand slam for Judge, one of his three home runs
on the day. You had home runs on three straight
pitches to start things, then an out, then another home
run nine on the day for the Yankees. Uh former
teammate Cortes gone.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
By the way, Dave sim is the new voice of
the Yankees. Busy, I mean, busy man. That just it.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
We got like six or seven guys that have all
the jobs. I mean, that's kind of the way it works.
They've either been cloned or I don't know if they
put stuff in the can. At this point, Dan, like
you do for a radio.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
He's like, I didn't get all of my Yankee nicknames yet,
and I've I've already had to use them all.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
He was waiting on the facts to come through. Here's
what you have to do.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
You're contractually obligated. H heck, first batter on Thursday, Austin
Wells all cheez.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 8 (44:59):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
But that's but that's thing, right. So we got this
crazy run. Twenty to nine is the final you get
Goldschmid hits one Ballinger Judge as I said, he's got
three on the day, Volpi hits another one, and immediately
it's like, wow, ball's really jumping off the bats of
the Yankees. And then we get the explanation. This is

(45:21):
Michael Kaye talking about these bats and the new composition.

Speaker 11 (45:26):
Now you see the shape of Chisholm's bat too.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
It's got a big barrel on it.

Speaker 11 (45:30):
Clall, it's actually a little bit lower than the barrel.
The Yankee front office, the analytics department, did a study
on Anthony Volpi and every single ball it seemed like
he hit on the label.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
He didn't hit any on the barrel.

Speaker 11 (45:44):
So they had bats made up where they moved a
lot of the wood into the label, so the harder
part of the bat is going to actually strike the ball.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
That'd be a weird way to hit, going up there
expecting to get jammed and putting the meat of the
bat towards the label.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
And allow you to wait a little bit longer. Yeah,
you're wait our right, dude.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Like a bowling pin, like a cricket bat. Maybe to
a degree he has we're trying to find you know
that that area. Uh, it's they inspected the bats because
immediately the way the ball's jumping off is like, wow, okay,
that's that's just different one after another. And look, we're
in an age where you could either do what they

(46:21):
did all those years ago when guys came in looking
like they were Steve Rogers, coming straight off of the
experiments with Stanley Tucci and Tommy Lee Jones and in
the original Captain America UH, and I e. The entire
steroid era, right, Sammy Sosa leaves for an offseason, comes
back looking like he had the super serum, and then

(46:42):
some uh and so many other guys along the way.
Not to say that they all had to bulk up.
And that's one of the miss the misguided things I
think of that era. A lot of guys that didn't
necessarily bulk up, but they kept them in the line
up and kept them moving. So trying to parse between,
you know, reality and what some of the noises some
of those guys that have been enshrined and the others

(47:02):
that never will. But we'll push that aside for now here.
You had Volpe present a couple of bats for inspection.
Major League Baseball is already ruled on this because immediately
was like, Wow, this can't be legal. What's going on?
What's the composite of the bat? And then it's just hey,
here's the rule. Two point six inches in diameter is
the max forty two inches in length. Beyond that, as

(47:25):
long as it's a piece piece of wood, get.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
After it does like it is visually striking. When you
see it compared to a another bat, it kind of
looks like something you'd buy for Brody right now, whippleball.
We have one at home, correct with the giant red bat,
because red with the giant orange.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
But yes, okay, yeah, okay, there you go there now it's.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Trying to be faux would that's why that's okay, the
more of that sort of look.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
But yes, it actually looks like a whiffle ball bat
for a three year old, which is what my son has.
Not the whiffleball bat that you would play with your
buddies in the yard or the whiffleball leagues, but the
ones with the kid where you have a sweet spot.
That is enormous and I'm surprised that it took this

(48:13):
long for this to happen where we're we're looking at this,
and it's funny that it's also analytics in data driven.
When guys would jam their bats with cork back in
the day so it'd be lighter and still give you
that same amount of pop, but obviously that was not illegal,
that that would be illegal, and that this would be allowed.

(48:36):
I wouldn't think this would be allowed. I thought that
there were specifications of what the bat had to be, Mike,
And that was the most shocking part of it for
me was that this was actually allowed. I look at
like golf. I play a lot of golf. I am
not anywhere near where a tour player would be, So
the clubs that a tour player uses are not the

(48:58):
clubs that I use. Game improvement irons is a term
where you will have a bigger iron face that has
a much bigger sweet spot. A pro who is so
dialed into their game would use a smaller club head
face if the clubhead, if you will, so he can

(49:18):
work the ball or she can work the ball in
the way that they want because they get pure contact
every single time. I need a bigger sweet spot because
I'm not hitting that sweet spot every single time. Now,
my clubs do have to meet regulations that can form
to the rules of golf, just like any tour pro
would if they wanted to make modifications to their golf club.

(49:41):
And I thought the same thing would be for Major
League Baseball, mic I don't think something like this would
actually be allowed, except now not only is it allowed,
it's like thumbs up, Yeah, this works, You're gonna see
more and more bats like that.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Wow, I'm gonna be the lorex I speak for the trees.
You got twenty nine other teams that are now gonna
into the redwood forests and they're gonna come up with
all sorts of stuff. All the pine and oak you
thought you were gonna be using in your homes. Gone
prices were already going through the roof. Now major League
Baseball teams and I need another order of bats. We're
gonna need to reconfigure this. It's a guy named Lenny,

(50:16):
an Mit physicist who's on the payroll there for the Yankees.
It's curious to me when major League Baseball players or
former starts saying, well, it's amazing folks don't know this
and understand this, like no, no, because this is the
way it's always been. Okay, figuring if anybody was finding
an advantage on this dand we would have seen innovations

(50:36):
like this along the way. Sure right, there's an edge
at every turn, whether it's a trash can, a light system, whatever.
We've seen cheating slash innovation at every turn. You would
think the most elemental piece of it, the bat teams
would have had people tinkering with this forever beyond cork

(50:59):
bats and what just different composites of wood, different combinations. However,
it's put together within the specifications, which are pretty broad
in general except for the length. Yeah, in diameter, I.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Thought there would be like, isn't there like a donut
that you put on the bat and then to make
sure that it's there's there's the weighted one, but there's
also I thought that there was a conforming one as well,
to make sure that the bat that you don't go
to the plate with a bat like my son dos
that is full of the wood that that he has
in his out three year old wiffleball bat. But it's

(51:34):
what what I what I love about it is this
is that obviously Aaron Judge wouldn't need to alter his
bat because he's Aaron Judge and it's done just fine
with the way that he's done it. But with Vulpe, it's, hey,
let's take a look at what you're doing, how you're
doing that. Not every Yankee is not using this bat.

(51:56):
This is for Vulpe and where he is and where
he may contact. So I liked that portion of it,
Like every hitter has got their own what they want
with their bats, right, They're not just using the same
bat like we would in the little league. Like Mike
goes up hits a double and I follow him in
the batting order, just leave the bat at home plate.
I'm gonna use the same one.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
We all know.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
That's not how Major League Baseball does it. Guys have
their own bats, they send them their own way, they
pine tar them their own way. They're all specified to
each player's specifications. But for someone like Volpe, who again
isn't top of the game, Aaron Judge asked to try
to maximize him to do that great. I just didn't
think it was allowed. I don't think that's why they

(52:38):
hit nine home runs yesterday. I think there was more
Nestor Cortes than and other reasons.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Ball placement, right, how straight was the ball? Sure look
like a beach ball? Come in in there? Now I've
in social media we find a little bit of everything.
Someone posted, Hey, maybe the Yankees aren't so innovative. We've
already had it out there. And this goes all the
way to a plate against sports in minute, Honka, anytime
we can get Minnetonka into the discussion that you already

(53:04):
had softball bats and other you know bats for aluminum
bats that were already out there, called the torpedo.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I remember in little league playing with a bat. One
of the one of the kids had it was a thumper.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Oh there you go.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Yeah, sure, the thumper. That thing would launch. We love
the thumper.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
That's it, the ping off the bat and all that.
But for the Yankees first move or advantage, We'll see
how many teams decide to change thing up. Because to
your point, Dan, players get used to a style like
they have their personal orders. I need another twelve, Hey,
can you shave this a little bit? Can you do this?
And small modifications, but now we're talking about wholesale changes

(53:47):
because I gotta I gotta figure it feels different going
through the hitting zone and your your approach right where
the weight is and that concentration might take a little
bit of getting used to.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
I would think that this is easy though, than changing
your swing shore and trying to go through that in
the highs and lows of it. You may have to
adjust to if it does have a different feel, but
I think it would be completely different than changing where
your hands are, what your step is, you know, any
of that sort of stuff. I don't want to say
this is a quick fix, and it's not like Volpe

(54:18):
He's hitting eight p fifty to start the season, but
at least this is this is a workaround in that way.
Now you're just going through pictures of huge baseball bats,
aren't jo It's.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Pretty much it. I've now hit the comedy portion of
the show. The visual if we had the giant graphic
behind us, that's the next innovation here at Fox Sports
Radio to show you exactly what we're looking at that
I found the baseball bat that I think your son owns.
So there you go. Nicely done all of that to say,

(54:49):
we'll see what major League Baseball how other teams combat this.
I mean, part of it becomes placement, sure and being
better in the zone, but because not everybody's going to
have the wrong krka Ice swing which was at the
same level no matter what, and it just hey, if
you happen to hit.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
The bat, well, I can tell you what the bigger
barrel does work because I've taken a couple of line
drives to the you know what off team from those bats, yes,
or even just close pitching and having to look out
there you go Brody doing cup check the reflexes Jet
forty eight are still still top not.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Lightning quick baby. Yeah, let's go at Dan Byron Fox.
Find me over at Swollendum. Coming up next, we're going
to talk NBA and we had the old comparison of
eras and one super star is not sitting for it.
He wants to know part of it. We'll tell you
who that is coming up next. But I remind you
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(55:42):
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(56:05):
and sixty five days a year here Fox Sports Radio.
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Anytime we can get a little bit of a callback.
This is a little Clapton too, eighty years old. Happy
birthday at Clapton so there you go. Funny how that
all comes together. He's Dan Byron with me on Mike

(56:26):
carmon Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio Fromthetirak dot Com studios. Dan,
you'll be happy as we get ready for the final
throws here of our our NCAA action South Carolina and
Duke underway and the women's side fifteen to nine coming
about two minutes left in the first quarter. But Brad Powers,

(56:50):
who does some work with our buddy Todd Furman over
at the Bet the Board podcast started posting stuff on
the odds for the college football season, with your Ohio
State Buckeyes sitting atop the heap.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Interesting, well, the last game that they played, they won,
So I think that there's a lot of thought process
of hey, why wouldn't they still be champs. It's also
the fact of reloading of what you're going to bring back,
and when you bring back Jeremiah Smith, when you see
how great of a season he had, there's going to

(57:24):
be a lot of replacing though. I think people just
think now in the days of nil and transfer portal,
it's just reload and reload.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
But interesting, Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
We'll keep an eye on those as we go. We
had the other data point, every national champion on the
men's side has come from the eastern half of the
US since nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
That is a com complete shot at UCLA and Gonzaga
just number one, Like, hey, UCLA, you haven't done it
in forever. In Gonzaga you still haven't done it yet.
Close a couple of times playing in the title game
in twenty seventeen and twenty twenty one. But where's will
Baylor beat am Baylor's the furthest school West. Yeah, since

(58:03):
you know, since that point when Arizona won nineteen ninety seven,
maybe it's a shot at.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Arizona as well.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Yeah, Loot, Yes, didn't win enough the late great loud Olsen,
but it has it has been a while, even the
Big Ten, because the Big Ten's taken a lot of
heat without an NCAA tournament champion since Michigan State in
two thousand, No question.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
A little bit of housekeeping. Also, we talked about all
the historic stuff from the Yankees. First time in Major
League Baseball history, it's a lot of games, it's a
lot of data points. First time in Major League baseball
history to have hitters one through six in a lineup
all homer in the same game in that twenty to
nine scholacking of the Milwaukee Brewers.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
I mean, when you hit nine home runs, I almost
feel like twenty is a low scoring game.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It seems like, yeah, solo home runs whatever, I don't care.
Sure take the solo as long as they're not Grand
slams like the judge we played Final Baseball Note Dodgers
first defending champions to go five and oh since the
nineteen eighty five Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Wow, yeah, eighty four they beat the Padres in the
World Series. That's right, Shay, you remember that, right?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
They?

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (59:16):
I was there?

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Actually, that's the that's the That's the the most disheartening
thing when talking about about youth these days is Mike
I mentioned ninety seven Arizona and Shay has no recollection
to that. It's one thing to go back to nineteen
eighty four and understand Sam wasn't even born at that
point as well, But when you go to ninety seven

(59:39):
in these people, it's not that they don't remember it,
but they were too young.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
It's they weren't eve gonna blip on the radar, not
even a thought at that. Yes, not even a thought.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
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Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
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Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
I joked earlier that I completely forgot Florida. I mean,
I wasn't joking like I did, completely forget that they
made it to the twenty fourteen final four until when
they beat Texas Tech yesterday. They're saying first final four
and I thought he was gonna say two thousand and seven,
and instead they say twenty fourteen, and I'm like, wait what,
and then completely oh, yeah, that's right, it was twenty fourteen.

(01:00:42):
Next year will be the twenty year anniversary of the
first Florida National Championship Wow of the back to twenty
years that's next year, right, So that is that's crazy
enough to think about it. I when Florida, it popped
into my mind when I was going back then, I'm like, Wow,
next year's twenty twenty six. That'll be the twenty year

(01:01:05):
anniversary of that Final four. It will be twenty years
since George Mason made that miraculous run to the Final four. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Nicely done. Owen Wilson on a Sunday morning.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
That kind of down played my but that that didn't
that didn't support that was kind of like a passing.
Iowas antenna no, and it took down nine. I was
trying to It was meant to just be like, Wow,
time flies, Yeah, but I think it was kind of
and he was just like Willich, he really wasn't interested.
That's how I played it off. It's like when we
do a joke and Sam would play his rim shot,

(01:01:37):
which completely wiped out your joke just so Sam could
get on my.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Drop.

Speaker 9 (01:01:45):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Yeah, it really means right true? All right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
As we shift to the NBA, pondered this one. In
this one kids, In the last two seasons, Ben Simmons
has now played more games than Joe Joel Embiid. It's
now sixty to fifty eight. Ben Simmons. So there's your
little nugget in the background of all this. Because we're
comparing eras and play and style, et cetera. Lebron James
making all sorts of headlines for.

Speaker 7 (01:02:11):
A million reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
In fairness to Ben Simmons, I never thought that Ben
Simmons was injury prone.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I just thought he's stunk.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Yeah, So, like there's that aspect of it, Like when
I look back on his career, I'll look back at
Joel Embiid's career and I probably won't think MVP, I'll
think injuries.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
With Ben Simmons, I'll just think, well, he really.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Wasn't like I think that he wasn't any good, but
that he didn't want to play like I thought. I
thought the latter even more the last couple of years.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Fact that he's sitting in practice on his phone exactly
in his pocket. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
So the fact that he's sixty to fifty eight, I mean,
I'm shocked. But your guy Jannis and Tennakupo, he fired
back on some of the discussion points because the Lebron
was going after everybody. We don't need to add any
more air to the insane soap opera drama between he
and Steven A. Smith one of the dumbest things ever

(01:02:59):
got last you in your giant contract. Clearly people gravitated
to it. But all of that to say, one of
Lebron's comments was one that I thought was really interesting
because it speaks to these arguments we have about the
eras of sports so much more. Let's hear from you honest.

Speaker 12 (01:03:18):
Yeah, I don't know, but that take, I think it's
it's a wrong take. If I played in the seventy
would probably be more of like two seventy five, not
to fifty. I'm joking, great compliment, but I don't. I
don't like you know how you say comparing eras.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
It's not fair.

Speaker 12 (01:03:36):
And you know if I played in the seventies, how
everybody practiced, and Hi, everybody played will have played the
same way. You know, that's all you knew at the time,
and you know the game involves and we've got to
twenty twenty and we know more.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
So Lebron's saying, yeah, you honest would go back there
and run rough shot and score two fifty. Joannest is
as close as anything as I've been on my little
mini soapbox here because I literally do have a mini
soapbox under this desk here, got to keep But but
it's there is the idea that, all right, if we're
going to play by the rules of nutrition, diet, travel,

(01:04:15):
all of these advantages that we have now scientifically to
help players perform at their best, Like, we've got to
do it both ways. So either you go back to
the sixties and you have none of that, and you
have a second job and you're flying commercial or sitting
on a bus, you don't have all these supplements, you're

(01:04:35):
probably not getting you know, the best nutrition, you know,
optimized like Lebron particularly him, like hey, spend a million
dollars or two million dollars or whatever it is on
his body plus whatever else he's he's doing to keep
himself one hundred percent That yeah, yea honest, I think
hits the nail on the head of going all right,
this is a silly argument because we'd all be playing

(01:04:57):
by the same rules.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
That's the JJ before he became coach of the Lakers
taking the shot at Bob Coosey and plumbers. Yes, in
that like it. It has to go both ways. Yeah, obviously,
if you played back to the future of Michael J.
Fox style and went back with their current self. Yes,
they would dominate. But if you are my god still

(01:05:21):
right now, I'm thinking about team like like, if it's
a lot of a lot of Michael J. Fox, we
could go to we could go Skippy on family ties
if we want, we can bring him into the occasion
the but it's it is never done the other way.
And the point is when you're talking about Bob Coosey
or you're talking about Bill Russell, it's never it's I

(01:05:45):
don't want to say it's never because that's that's not true,
but it isn't fast It put in a way a
fast forward mic to that point, like Bill Russell was
a unicorn. And that's how we talk about one of
ones now, right, the one of ones so that this
guy is different than everyone else. And now we use
it as a compliment. But when we're looking back in

(01:06:05):
the day and we say all these players would have
been like Bill Russell, no, it would have been different.
And I think that your point is spot on that
we talk about like Yannis Off today playing in the
nineteen seventies, Yeah, there probably isn't anybody that's going to
be able to match up athletically you want.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Don't know why, because no one in today's game can.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Match up athletically, and you have a lot of athletic
guys in the game right now. But let's fast forward.
Let's have Bob Coozy play aau ball and do all
of that stuff with his skill set. Let's have Bill
Russell go through the same process that these high school prospects,
then put them in the game and see what they're like.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
It is never done like that, and if.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
It wants to continue, like old Guy Radio, since we're
talking about back in the day, I think that we
have a good point. But it's not even about being
old or young. It's about being fair to the argument.
And I don't think people are fair to the argument
when they're talking about the great of the game, whether
it be in basketball, whether it be in football or
golf or baseball or whatever, in terms of translating to

(01:07:08):
what they would be because yeah, those players back then
then would have had access to everything that all of
these players.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
So we're talking about innovations with the new bat style
that the Yankees are performing with right The equipment has changed, sure,
I mean the specifications are there, but style of wood,
how you're treating it, all of that has been different.
We've certainly talked about the baseball's changing through the years,
how the game has evolved. Right, the complaints between pre

(01:07:34):
three point shooting to where we're at and where the
game is now. Which point we made earlier in the
week is everybody and Adam Silver I think is right
to call it out is that the folks that are
on the payroll for your sport don't even speak about
it in the best of terms.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Sure, I go back to this point, Mike, Max.

Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
McGee, Okay, hey, we're going green pers.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Just before I was born. But we all know the story.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Max McGee goes out before Super Bowl one, has a
fun time in Los Angeles, and then plays a huge
role in the Packers Super Bowl win one win over
the Kansas City Chiefs. Rip to Max McGee, but his
story is a bit of Super Bowl lore. Imagine if A. J.

(01:08:25):
Brown went to Bourbon Street tied one on on Saturday
night before Super Bowl fifty nine against the Kansas City Chiefs. Like,
what are we you know talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Like it's the videos of him staggering around Bourbons, right, yeah,
begging for beads.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Absolutely, yea. So my point is is it is probably
not fair in both ways. So if we're looking at
maybe what the players would have done at that point,
and guess what, maybe if Max McGee ends up playing
sixty years later, you know, it's a whole different thing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
But it goes both ways.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Meaning if we're gonna put Giannis in the nineteen seventies,
then at least have the players in the nineteen seventies
be subject to your point of what you have here
in the twenty twenties. And by the way, doesn't take
anything away from Yannis, who is completely unique. I mean
there I would argue. Still, there's not a player in
the NBA like him, sure like they're I mean, Jokic

(01:09:24):
is his own deal, he's a whole Yeah, Durance is
his own deal. But to that point, but let's then
let's do it both ways. And when heck, if we're
doing that sort of stuff, if we're saying Ozden and
Austin with Max McGee, maybe we should have a player
then go out the night before the Super Bowl and go.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
And put one hundred and sixty yards on someone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Think about Wilton and age of dating apps. Jeez, it's
a whole other you know, long lead as you move
forward into the next town. He's Dan Bayer at Dan
barn Fox, find me. That's one one home. We've got
some staggering numbers from the NCAA Tournament, two more games
to look at for the day, and a uniform story

(01:10:04):
that has us both a little bit turned off here
for the NFL. We'll talk about that coming up, but first,
it's Isaac Lohingkron one more time with us here this morning. Hi, Iilo.

Speaker 9 (01:10:13):
There it goes round and round, fellows the college basketball
coaching carousel. Because Villanova today officially hired Kevin Willard as
its new head coach. Willard leaves Maryland three days after
coaching them in the Sweet sixteen, multiple outlets report that
New Mexico has hired away U SEE San Diego head
coach Eric Olin, who just led U See San Diego

(01:10:35):
to the NCAA Tournament in its first year of eligibility.
The Elite Eight continues at two to twenty Eastern with
the Midwest Region Final between one seed Houston and two
seed Tennessee, then at five oh five Eastern the South
Region Final between one seed Auburn and two seed Michigan State.
In the NCAA Women's Tournament in the Elite eight. Right now,

(01:10:55):
one seed South Carolina up twenty one to fourteen over
two seed Duke three minutes in the second quarter. Some
sad news from Major League Baseball. If people out there
have ever watched a game from or at Dodger Stadium
in Los Angeles over the years, you will probably be
familiar with this soothing sound. Those were the stylings of

(01:11:26):
former longtime Dodger Stadium organist Nancy b. Hefley, who passed
away on Saturday. Her music was an integral part of
the charm of Dodger Stadium for twenty seven seasons.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Nancy B.

Speaker 9 (01:11:40):
Hefley was eighty nine years old. Finally, guys, we have
a couple of other Major League Baseball items for you.
The Toronto Blue Jays today placed Max Scherzer on the
fifteen day injured list with right thumb inflammation. And right now,
the New York Yankees, who hit nine home runs yesterday

(01:12:01):
against the Brewers.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
They're getting shut down.

Speaker 9 (01:12:05):
A big goose egg on the board for the Yankees
against the Brewers because they're on the top of the
first sinning and the Yankees have not come to the
plate yet.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Back to you, guys, I see don Ilo, I was
gonna go buy stock in whatever Pitcher was shutting them
out until you say about first hitting.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
I was gonna make a joke about my Max McGee
reference that I felt like. I feel bad now I
can't even make any jokes.

Speaker 7 (01:12:25):
Can I tell you quick?

Speaker 9 (01:12:26):
Can I tell you a quick Max McGee story about that?
So right before that, right before that first Super Bowl,
Vince Lombardi yells at McGee because he always broke curfew. McGhee,
if you break curfew one more time, you're gonna be
fined five hundred dollars.

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
Five hundred dollars was a lot of money back in
those days.

Speaker 9 (01:12:45):
And then Lombardi pauses for a second and he says, Max,
if you ever find something worth five hundred dollars to
sneak out for, call me and I'll come with you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
There you go at Isaac Lohan, goron where you find him?
Storytelling play by play snippets.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
You here, Harvin, You're not the only one. You're not
the only one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Hartman, in your face, in your face, Steve, all right,
we got the saddles covered today.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
Look at the ready to walk in ackin.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
As soon as I hit this button and there we
have it at Dan Byron Fox at Fox Sports Radio.
Find me over at Swollen Dome. A couple news and note.
Kind of items to finish out, including a uniform talk
as I wear one of those white Sox giveaways. Yeah,
that's it. We talk about it next year. Fox Sports Sunday.
Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen,

(01:13:33):
Dan Byer with you here, final ten minutes for us
and then you got Hartman and Husky coming up at
the top of the hour thanks to Shay Iowa Sam
of course Isaac Lewngron making a sound so pretty this morning.
If you missed any of today's show the podcast, we'll
go up when we're done shape putting that together. The
clip about the scheduling for the National Football League, I

(01:13:55):
think sparks some memories and trips down memory lane, and
certainly you activate that that thing that goes on in
the computer lug brain of Steve Haarey.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
Yes, and he's all for it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
So while the NFL may loathe it and never do
my idea of having the NFC only play the NFC
in an eighteen game schedule and the AFC only play
the AFC. I at least have one strong supporter in
Steve Hartman, so I appreciate that they have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
But one of the news updates we had from Isaac
Lohan Krohn was that Kevin Willard will in fact go
to Villanova leaving Maryland, so that drama is in the
rear view. But I offer you this, Kermit the Frog
will be the commencement speaker for the University of Maryland.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
Really, so there you go. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yeah, so there's your randomness.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
I would love to see how he gets on stage.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Does he walk on up the side stairs, do they
bring him from behind to continue the element of surprise?
Is he just covered in a big black tarp with
I'm curious?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
I think you shoot up from the bottom of the
stage right there that guy Sai and you're gonna sing Gangam.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Style, I'm curious, gig. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
I love that what everybody goes nuts that it's one
of the greatest intros ever of anything, especially when Sai
does this with his fingers. You can't see on radio,
but he's like, pop me up and then he goes
flying in the air and then there's one hundred thousand
fans just screaming.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Don't you want to fly in the air like that?

Speaker 9 (01:15:24):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
What a rush? Absolutely? I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
I gotta go figure out how to simulate that in
my own life. Later on today, South Carolina twenty five
to eighteen two and a half left here in the
first half of this one, as we go through Dana's story,
you and I were talking about a little bit off air.
You love uniforms, colors, the pageantry of what it looks
like mid court, midfield, and of course for NFL in

(01:15:51):
college football, the end zones becoming a big deal. The
Titans will not wear their throwbacks.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
This was an abusive power or that the Tennessee Titans have.
They didn't use it correctly. I don't know if there's
a Marvel Universe comparison that you could make that would
go completely over my head. But here the Tennessee Titans
franchise because of what they did to Houston and leaving
and what they've done with the Astros excuse me, with

(01:16:19):
the Euler's name and uniforms. They've kept it for themselves
for all these years and have no intention on ever
giving it back.

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
Now They're not even going to wear the uniforms.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
When they did wear the uniforms, everybody got mad because
they wore them against Houston in a way to rub
it in their face. Nobody watched that. It was an
abusive power with what the Tennessee Titans have done, and
it continues when they're now not going to wear the
throwbacks and they're saying that the reason they're not going
to is because everyone loves their light blue home jerseys.
That is not going to be their primary jersey. They

(01:16:50):
will wear it in all of their home games. Reminds
me a little of the Broncos. Remember when the Broncos
changed uniforms and John Elway won a Super Bowl, their
primary jersey top was navy. It was that whole Navy look.
But after years, you're like, we were the orange crush,
right now bring back the orange. Let's do an orange top.
So now the Broncos primary uniform at home is orange

(01:17:13):
and the Titans are doing that, which is fine, that's
their prerogative. Eddie George Warreth similar like jersey, but to
just do away with the oiler helmet in the uniforms
is sad to me because everyone loves that look. And
if they also would have utilized it better use it
against the Jaguars, you know that's who you use it against.
But just really disappointed that we're not gonna see the

(01:17:35):
great oiler throwbacks in twenty twenty five, as we're gonna
we'll see the Seahawks again, We'll see the Kelly Green Eagles,
We'll see the Buccaneers in the Bucko Bruce.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
That guys should be around ever forever.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Yes, correct, we'll see all those, but the Oilers will
not be around in twenty twenty five because the Titans
continue to make bad decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
He should be back. That crazy ass minor guy for
the Denver Nuggets should be their primes OGO, bring all
that stuff back, Bring the crazy crab back for the Giants.
Come on now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
I love the Nuggets And I tweeted about this recently
on how they have two throwback logos that are just
off the charts.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
There's crazy minor Guy and then there's just.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
The city scape with all the pixel like those aren't great,
completely separate, but I get it that the Oilers did
move to Tennessee. They were the Tennessee Oilers. I went
to a game once at Vanderbilt Stadium. Mic I think
I told you this. They played Jacksonville. I saw the
Tennessee oilers play. But it's a Titans town. That's okay
to embrace that. If you're not going to use the oilers,
let it go. Let it go back to Houston.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
Does what I think?

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Look, we're having the owners meeting. It's time for Amafia like,
sit down, Sure, what do we get for it? Here's
some cash considerations. We'll send you some of our greatest confections,
like the stupid mayor bets, whatever it is. Let's just
finish the job.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
You've got friends in Baltimore. I've got friends in Baltimore.
I asked one of those friends a couple of years
ago and said, do they get worked up when the
Colts come to town anymore? He goes, No, he goes
the Ravens and their success. It's it's all Ravens. There's
no more animosity from when they left in the early eighties.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
We've gone on.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
It's been twenty five years. You're getting another stadium in Nashville.
Just let it go back. Just like the Charlotte Hornets, Right,
Bobcats moved to New Orleans and then all of a sudden,
the Charlotte's gonna come back in the league. Guess what,
let's give them the Hornets back. We'll just keep our
own stuff here with the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
Public if we move on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Absolutely baldwork. Congratulations Harbaugh, three year extension. All Right, Houston
two and a half point favorites against Tennessee. Who wins
the rock fight?

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
I think Houston has a few more scores.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Give me the Kougs and does Auburn complete the one season?
How can you bet against izz Oh exactly? I don't
know how you can exactly. He's daying on Mike. This
is Fox Sports Sunday. Have a great day, folks. Enjoy
the games.

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