Mike Harmon & Dan Beyer Talk Clippers Eliminated/James Harden, Trading Cards, NBA Playoffs, And So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Sunday underway action on
the pitch overseas, full slate of games. We got a
game seven. One of the glorious phrases we get to
use in sports. We're coming off the excitement of the
Kentucky Derby. Okay, I was excited for the sixth race
because actually won that one. All right, congratulation Shelby later,
my brothers and the greatness of the horses name. It

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was macho music. So any time we can get a
wwe tie in and and harken back to the days
of yesteryear, we've won. But they're heading back from Kentucky today,
so good job by them to get things flowing. But
we also have game one of the Eastern Conference Playoffs
second round underway. Cleveland and Indian app Indiana. I always

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want to call them INDIANAPO. It's because I'm watching football
on one of our monitors. So the brain starts, all right,
what are the Colts doing?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
No, we're watching Dave. We've got the top ten games
of twenty twenty four, so it's that Bill's Rams game.
I've been watching it, going Wow, predicting. It's like, no, no,
it's a lot of points. Just sit back and enjoy it.
Mike Carbon alongside Dan Byer with you. This morning we
got Scotty Scheffler. Is he gonna win by fifteen strokes
or what?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Probably there's been enough criticism about this course and the
low scores that you can shoot on it. But when
one guy is just leaving everybody in the dust, it
makes for a kind of oh it could have been event,
but my goodness, sixty one, sixty three, sixty six, just
put it on cruise control. Shooting under or shooting even
par got you nowhere, you're home for the weekend. This

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weekend on the PGA tour TBC Craig Rant.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
The way it flows right, CJ Cup Byron Nelson hometowns.
Scheffler taking advantage of the digs and just dominating. Does
it get you used them? And obviously it's not a
major but and certainly the low scores that becomes the everyman.
It's like, ah, whatever do you want it to be?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Hard?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Like where do you come off?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I'm fine with this, especially on a tour stop.
Plus we're a couple of weeks away from the PGA Championship.
And what I do like Mike about this is I
do think that golf was hurt by the split with
Live and the PGA Tour and the players breaking off
and some of the players breaking off and going to
the Live Tour. However, we've seen a bit of a resurgence.

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Bryce into Shamba. I think he's had a big role
in that. He just won the live event that took
place this past weekend. He obviously didn't have a great
found a round of the Masters, but is obviously inform.
We have Rory now coming off of the career Grand
Slam and the Masters. He is in form. And now
Scotty Scheffler wins this. We're getting the big dogs back.

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And so now you've got a major coming up in
a couple of weeks. And when we're wondering with storylines
and is it just going to be PGA Tour versus Live,
I think we've kind of moved away from that. And
now you've got three of the top guys who are
playing near the top of their game and maybe others
on their way. I think maybe now golf is on
the rebound back up at least let's hope so.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well need those big names, that schedules. We were talking
a little bit before the red light went on, is
just the idea of what brings people to the yard. Right,
we're getting ready for the next iteration of the WNBA.
You know, Caitlin Clark may or may not play later
on today leg injury. We saw some gruesome takedowns in
some of these exhibition games, like wow, that's that was

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worth a point in you know, Greco Roman wrestling for
what you're seeing, but the anticipation of another year, Pagebeckers,
all these other players coming into the league. But it
takes a couple of stars and people with money to
decide that they're in right. Golf going back to always
a healthy game. Boxing's healthy in its own space, but

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it doesn't hit that zenith unless you've got a big
name or two that are battling it out that people
can draw to. That's where we're at with the WNBA now,
hopefully for golf. You know, you're never going to recreate
the zenith that was Tiger Woods. But when you wait
on greatness and guys performing consistently, I mean that fuels everything.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, I was gonna say men's basketball, but NBA, WNBA, PGA, Tour.
I think even NHL, there are generational players and maybe
once in a lifetime players that come along and elevate
that sport. And I think that's what we've got now.
For as great as the NBA was, Magic of Bird obviously,
I think carry that mantle and then passing the torch

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to Jordan NHL, wing Gretzky and taking the NHL to
that next level Tiger Woods in golf for so many reasons,
Caitlin Clark in the WNBA, Yeah, on a new plane,
a new level, if you will. You need those generational talents,
and then people will come in and be even more interested.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
And the money starts flowing through more ad campaigns, more dollars,
international expansion, all of those kind of things. As we go, Well,
we'll touch on Greg Popovich stepping away from the sideline,
because whenever those kind of things happened, you know, it
takes takes me, It gives me pause. Right, there were
just things that you know, what do they always talk
about death and taxes? Yeah, it was Popovich and whatever

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you liked or didn't like about the man, he was
a constant force in the NBA. And you can't argue
anything other than being good for the game. And now
Mike Tomlin's the longest reigning coach anywhere. So we got
that Clippers with another exit. And the most interesting part
of this was a viral clip that went went around

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that was over a year old. It was a very
well traveled clip, but it was another resounding reminder of
trusting a team led by James Harden is going to
be potentially problematic once we get to the playoffs. And
we watched Denver absolutely boat race the Clippers. So the

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two best stories were a viral clip which is old
and recycled, and then Steve Balmer being the owner you
want your squad because he spends money. Now, I don't
know how much you can recreate a home court advantage
or what home court advantage means other than the free
throw thing, which is kind of interesting in the wall
at the Intuit Dome. But flying one hundred and twenty

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five people out for court side seats, that's no small expense.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, absolutely not, and if anything, it's neat for those
fans to be able to go to a game. Unfortunately,
they had to watch their team lose by nineteen points
in a game that really wasn't even that close in
the second half at times. So that's a tough part
of being a Clipper fan. But at least for those fans,
they got the opportunity to go see the game. I

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like the efforts from Steve Balmer and trying to make
things different, but here's here's the deal. You can you
can put one hundred fans, you can put two hundred.
You're gonna need thousands. Okay, this is a Game seven
in Denver, a team smarting after what happened to them
in a Game seven last year against Minnesota and in the
conference semifinals. So it was a tough task no matter

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what for the Clippers, for ty lu for Kawhi Leonard,
for James Harden, for those one hundred and twenty five fans. Mike,
I like the efforts. I like Steve Balmer trying to
make this a college atmosphere. But here's the deal. Those
college atmospheres a lot of times are just organic, and
sometimes the college atmosphere is because maybe a top ranked
team comes into town, you're an underdog, you have that

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crazy weekend, and you're fueled by eighteen and twenty one
year olds. Like that's what we got for a college atmosphere.
It's just very difficult to duplicate in in professional sports.
I love the thinking of it. I love the thought press,
a thought process behind it. It's just never going to happen.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, it's just that curiosity of you know, doing something,
trying something different, right, trying to break through the Clippers,
still trying to find that elusive pathed you know, across
the rainbow to the pot of gold. Mean, Bauber's got
plenty of goal, but you can't buy a title no
matter what he does. And here you've got a lineup
led by a couple of veterans, you know, Kawhi Leonard

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being asked in post because well, we didn't win anything,
so what does it mean right talking about how well
they played in Spurts They did have a fifty win season. Yeah,
Kawhi miss time but then came back. It was more
of his normal self. Jims Harten only put up eight shots,
which is the thing that kind of stood out, and
even on the broadcast they brought it up. It's like,

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if I've got that guy, he's got to go down
guns blazing, right, it can't be a passive look to
distribute the ball kind of situation. That's what you had,
all the starters between eight and thirteen attempts. Kawhi finishes
with twenty two. Conversely for Denver, all five starters in
double figures. And then you get the Russell Westbrook. How

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long is a revenge game? How long do you get that?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Like for like meetings wise like because now we're in
game seven of the series.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean it's way after.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Game one or is it the whole entire series? There
could be a lot of revenge games for James for
Russell west including maybe the next series.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, how do you channel that? If you're the coach
coaching staff, how do you try to draw out that
Russell Westbrook?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Don't? I don't know if you can. This is with
Russell Westbrook, you take the good with the bad. And
I actually kind of feel it's the same thing with
James Harden. But I almost feel, Mike that we were
in a way fooled by James Harden. And I'm gonna
say this and this is it's not to be contrarian,
it's not to be different. I just I think that

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we pile on too much. Losing on the road in
a game seven, in a four or five matchup, it happens,
and I do feel sometimes who make these sweeping judgments James.
If you want to criticize James Harden for what he
did do or hasn't done in his career, I think
that windows passed. I feel like it was prime Houston

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Rockets where he was susceptible to it. So I get
the criticism. I get that people maybe not like how
he handled things in Brooklyn or handled things in Houston
or in other spots. But I even saw a graphic
last night Mike from Yahoo Sports that said, this is
the fourth team that James Harden has lost a game
seven in ye and I just thought to myself, I

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get with the Rockets I can maybe even get with
the Brooklyn Nets a little bit. But the seventy six
ers were Joel Embiid's team. This Clippers team is Kawhi
Leonard's team. And if we're gonna be just I don't
want to say cherry picking stats, but this is what
makes the NBA exhausting at times. Is this piling on

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everything is everything is something, And I'm not saying that
James Harden should be absolved of anything, but I just
don't think that this is his team I think he
kept this team afloat during the regular season when they
didn't have Kawhi Leonard, and that was a big deal
in thirty two points in a game earlier in the
series against Denver. So when you have thirty two points

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and then you have nine points that I've there's seven points,
Excuse me, I gave him too more than he should
have had.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's okay, what's a nice bonus.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I get the whole deal. But it's just like, we're
waiting for these players to fail, and I feel like
we've just been We've criticized James Harden for so long
that I'm almost tired of it.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
But is that part of what the NBA has been? Yes, right,
go back and we talk about the star driven league
and whatever. But the regular season what happens every year? Oh,
it's too long. They played too many games. They built
that Kakammy thing into the CBA that you've got to
have sixty five games played to be eligible for award
for awards, and then they say that they're taxing their

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bodies too much to get to the sixty five games.
That's missing seventeen games. That's a pretty big, pretty big
margin of error in terms of you know, taking a
few days off to go through an injury process, et cetera.
Not to mention you got days off built in there.
I mean, that's a good month of a season plus
when you really look at it. But because of the

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regular season, look, half the teams don't matter. It becomes
the all right, what we're playing for draft picks or
you're looking at a young star and just said, all right,
well we'll watch him intently. We look at how bad
badly uh san Antonio played a year ago, but we
couldn't get enough of Victor wemban Yama, knowing they were
gonna get throttled almost every night. But I'm like, all right,

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this guy's just different, right, But we so we look
for storylines, and we look for heroes and villains. Hell,
look at the the major names that cover the sport.
That's all they do, yes, right, it's all they're sycophantic
towards one guy or this guy's the worst thing, just
like their soap opera characters a sash. But it's the
the idea that you know, we we need that. And

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for James Harden, he has just become that evil man
in black because people didn't like the way he got
himself out of Houston. People didn't like it. Like I
like the honesty of it, Like there's no backroom dealing.
He just said, hey, I'm out.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Sure you know, shut up by shape in Brooklyn. I
know Kevin Durant was not happy with that. He is
who he is. Yep. To that point, and the stuff
that was happening in the past. The West was such
a log jam this year and the Clippers, I mean,
they had a big lead in Game one that they
blew in their comeback in Game four, they pull even

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and then lose on the heartbreaking ali oop if you
want to call it. So they were right there. Maybe
they just ran out of gas. Maybe Denver was rolling.
By the way, when you look at Denver and you
look at what Denver did last night, that's where Denver
is deadly. When you have six guys scoring fifteen or

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more points, it's not Jokicic with forty that's gonna kill you.
It's when everybody is involved in rolling, and the Clippers
couldn't stop it last night. I don't think it's an
indictment on Kawhi Leonard either. It's a missed opportunity. No doubt,
and it's an enormous missed opportunity for the Clippers because
you had Kawhi Leonard healthy for the postseason. All of

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those I am fine with saying, and the window for
them is closing faster because you don't know how long
Kawhi is gonna be healthy. There's another year you know
that he'll be around, and then after that you're gonna
make other decisions. James Harden's gonna turn thirty six this summer,
so that window is closing fast. All of that is
fair game. But when we're piling out of me, like

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another Game seven from James Harden, that to me is
what can make the league exhausting.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
It almost becomes expected to a level, right, So to
be surprised about it and throw your hands up like
the guy. Yeah, you know, I age myself all the time, right,
and I really do it when I see a bunch
of juniors running around on the court. Right when Gary
Trent junior dropped that ball like Gary Trent, Yeah, poor guy,

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you know, and things like that, Right, we watch all
of those moments. But yeah, James Harden's been at this
a minute.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
He is who he is exactly, yes, right.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, hope for the best, and you hoped that if
they did make a long run that he'd be around
for it.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yep. But so yeah, I just I it's it's almost
like I just I don't have the energy for it,
because again, these teams, they were both fifty and thirty
two this season. You have a game seven on the
road at home, it's not necessarily a winnable ball game, right,
Like you know, they say, like, well, we're going to
go and win that game. No, that's not the case.

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And sure, maybe James Harden doesn't live up and doesn't
come through in the clutch again, but I'd rather hold
that against twenty eighteen James Harden than twenty twenty five
James Harden. I just I just don't have the energy.
Because if the Clippers would have won last night against
the Nuggets and then they go and face Oklahoma City
and let's say they lose in five games, then we're saying,

(15:48):
eugh see, James Harden couldn't get them to the conference
finals again, like what are we Like, there's he's in
a no win situation unless they go on a miraculous
run and win the NBA.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, and that also speaks to the you know, maybe
the lack of respect to this point for OKC and
what that roster has put together this this year. Likewise
the Cavaliers. I think everybody keeps waiting from an NBA
larger perspective for the veteran star power to break through.
It's like, it's okay sometimes other teams and depth of roster, Yeah,

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it's okay to cover that.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Absolutely, I call the okay. See America's team.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
You can't cheer for the next can't cheer for the Celtics.
They're not littered with top five lottery picks. It took
a chance. Sga was the young promising player and now
he's an MVP. I think there's a lot of reasons
to cheer for Oklahoma City. If if your team is
now knocked out of.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
The NBA P I celebrate lou Dorton chet Yeah, there
you go. A those are my guys. Might be trading
card related, I don't know. He's damn bier at Danbyre
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we take a turn to Dan's home state of Wisconsin,
Because They've got some huge decis and one of the

(17:01):
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Speaker 2 (17:19):
Greetings and welcome back in Fox Sports Radio is Fox
Sports Sunday. My garment alongside Dan byer with you please
to be with you live here from the Fox Sports
Radio studios in Southern California. Team is fully assembled. I
mean it's May of the fourth, So I guess I
gotta watch Star Wars movies all day as a second
screen experience opposite NBA playoffs. I got that going forward.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
One of the things around here that for those that
may not know, I'm not a movie buff, it's I
don't watch movies at all. Really, I'm not into the
Marvel and the Star Wars stuff. However, Mike, what people
may not know was I love Star Wars. When I
was a kid, I had the Darth Vader carrying case

(18:05):
for the for the toys. Yeah, I had the the
you know the action figures that was Empire Strikes Strikes Back,
Return of the Jedi time under Rus Do you remember Underrease?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Absolutely? I had Batman for years.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I had the Luke Skywalker under Ruse. So I was
down with Star Wars so right now, like I could
not have a I could not have a Phantom Menace
conversation with you because I have not seen it. But
I I understand it, I get it. But there is
a little background. There's a little bit more to Star
Wars with me than maybe on the surface.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm excited Hayden Christensen finally getting the love that he
didn't years ago. Some bad material, some bad acting choices,
but it's aged better as we've gotten away. Twentieth year
anniversary of Revenge of the Sith has done crazy ass
box office, Like these re releases, do you really well?
I went to a double feature yesterday with my my

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younger daughter. She actually had a day where she didn't
have to go anywhere, so we went and saw Sinners.
If you haven't seen that coogler Michael B. Jordan Vampires,
We got Buddy Guy and like it's crazy good, Okay,
And then I went and saw Thunderbolts, Asterisk the new
Marvel movie.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Gotcha, Yeah there is, Yeah, yeah. I was maybe hoping
it for a tag in from per Fat or Shay
or someone. Because Mike's just talking to a brick wall
when he's talking to me about Marvel.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I just get my I am a nerd and I
enjoyed both movies immensely. I came out of there both
questioned humanity and saving your soul. So I mean I've
got a little of that. So coming here on a
Sunday morning, right, churchy thoughts, those going to and from services,
say an extra one for me as we're sitting here

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in the studio. We appreciate you being part of the
extended family. But very enjoyable movie experiences with with crowds
that were in at every turn. And that's that's the
whole thing, right, Like we love our love of sports,
dan is that energy is all going in that same
direction and we're on that thrill ride, whether it's a
buzzer beater or my god, did they just do that?

(20:19):
You know?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
To further this plot, well, I saw a horror flick
earlier this week. It was called the Overtime of Game
five of that was that was horrific, especially the ending
do Yeah, I just wanted to turn away, not watch that.
That was that was gory.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
It was not for the squeamish one nineteen one eighteen
and very defintely done by you to transition to the
well what could be a horror story, but it but
it we pull it back, right. We just had the
conversation where you look at a Kawhi and Harden and
some of the veteran players, and it extends into even
a little of the Luca Dantis we'll get we'll get

(20:56):
to the Lakers stuff a little later. But for Joannis intent,
it's the reminder of this. He's not a kid anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
He may have been new to the national scene a
couple of years ago when they made their run. He's
been in the league twelve years, yes, right from little
Janis who looked like a thirteen year old when he
got drafted. Still a lot of the thank you and
please and whatever else. And you saw the interaction with
Halliburton's old man and how he went to the press

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like he made sure to get his digs in. Yeah
I got a title. They don't you know, things like that.
But it's it's the recognition of where you're at as
a franchise, Right, You've got to take that thirty thousand
foot view. If you're too close to it, you might
just keep saying we've got to keep pushing ahead. But
you got an older roster, you don't have a lot
of flexibility cap wise, and you got a guy who

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still is a considerable asset as you look towards the
future of your franchise. So it's do we ride out
the cash cow and the greatness of what he has been,
or do we all sit down. Giannis could be the
guy that pushes all this in motion, But from both
sides there's a there's the school of thought of all right,

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it's been as good as it can get, and now
it's time for everybody to move on to that next. Right.
It's that relationship where you're looking around, it's like, yeah,
we gotta go to this, Yeah I gotta go do that,
and it's like, no, you don't want to do that.
So at some point a conversation needs to be had,
and I think with Giannis and the Bucks, after twelve years,
this overtime loss and a four to one exit, another

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early exit might be that point.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I think the conversation has to be had, and I
want to ask Shae, producer, Shay and Chris Purfat a question.
This is not trivia time. This is not for me
to fool you. This is just and I think Michael
understand this. There's there's a point to it. Do you
know how old Yannis is? Say? Do you have a
guess on how old Yannis is? Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
God, that's a great question, like thirty Okay, Chris.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm gonna say at this point, God, I'm gonna say
thirty two.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't think that there's any wrong answer because I
don't think we care. Same thing with Yokic. I had
to look up how old Nicole Jolkicic was yesterday because honestly,
wasn't sure how old he was. They're both thirty, so
Shay was right on the number. Chris d no probably
didn't want to double up, but ballpark. But you don't
know they're twenty eight. You don't know they're thirty two.
But there is a difference when you get into your thirties.
And to your point, there's now twelve years into the league,

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but he's still thirty, so you're thinking there's prime years
left there's nothing that he has shown outside of a
few injuries over the last few years that think that
he would dramatically drop off from where he is. But
the conundrum is this is this is a team that
won a title now four years ago, and aside from
one game seven run in the Eastern Conference Semifinals, has

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been bounced from the first round of the playoffs. They
now have Damian Lillard who's going to be coming off
of an achilles injury that you don't even know if
he's available next year. They don't own their own first
round pick and have it to pick until twenty thirty one.
Twenty thirty one is the where is the first year
that they don't have a pick swap or don't have
their pick like that's for the first round pick. So

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you're talking about the copboard being bear in a way,
there's no where to go. And the craziest thing about this, Mike,
is all the words out of Milwaukee are Yiannis isn't
going anywhere, which isn't necessarily surprising. But I just saw
an article on The Athletic where they broke down four
trade scenarios and the summation of all four of those

(24:26):
trade scenarios where the Bucks aren't getting enough in return,
and I think that adds to this conundrum of not
only what do the Bucks do, who out there is
going to pay enough to make it worthwhile for the
Bucks to do this. Considering that Giannis is now thirty,
there is a little bit of injury history in the past,
but you would get a prime player. But I would

(24:47):
also argue Mike that right now hasn't shown the ability
to play with other stars or other top caliber players
and make it work. Holiday Chris Middleton trio that they
formed to beat the Suns in the finals, Yannis had
fifty in Game six, that was half of their team's points.

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And the conversation through all those processes where Drew Holliday
isn't a real number two, Maybe Middleton's the number two two.
I don't know, it doesn't matter. I think that they
were both threes and I think it worked so and
they guess what they had other guys around Bobby Portis,
Berk Lopez. By the way, all those guys still there,
which is probably a problem. Maybe we needed to move off,

(25:30):
you know, if you're a Milwaukee of those players at
some point. So it's just it's it's not the easiest
question in the world to be like, oh, yeah, we're
gonna trade Giannis, which I think everybody pivoted to. But
you've done everything that you can to also accommodate him
and it hasn't worked out. So now where do you
get go? So there's just so many hurdles for them
to jump in and right now in a place of

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going nowhere fast in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Oh, we talk about stars and big moves don't happen
in a vacuum, right, Coaching changes, personnel moves. They made
the splash, and unfortunately we didn't get to see what
could have been with Damian Liller, right, we didn't get
to see it down the stretch of the season, hopefully
health wise, right from the just the nuts and bolts
of it all, he's okay, and then obviously coming off

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of the Achilles injury as a whole other thing, we
don't know if we see him at all this coming year. Also,
not a young quote young guy, right, because we keep
going back because thirty is younger, but it's not right.
In every other aspect of your working life, thirty is
you're just getting started, right, You're just figuring out who
the hell you are and where you're going in the

(26:36):
life of an NBA player, particularly one of a high caliber.
You've been playing professional basketball for a long time, a
lot of weary minutes, and when your team's good, you're
adding an extra month. That's why you know you marvel
and you want really a deep dive on you know
what guys like Lebron James and some of these veteran
players in any sport do to keep their bodies in check.

(26:59):
Obviously they have a lot of money, but what are
they doing physically that helps keep them at the top
of their game. But eventually, for all but well and
even even Lebron, whether you believe the latest done the
injury or not, you start showing age and you start
showing where and you're trying to figure out where that
tipping point is as an organization as to how much

(27:20):
further you can you can push that. Yeah, he's your guy,
and he's preached loyalty and whatever else, But at some
point you're recognizing you're just running in place while the
rest of the Eastern Conference has gotten better around you.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
And the Pistons seem like they're going to be around
for a while with their Core. For some reason, the
Bucks can't get past the Pacers. It's there, it's their bugaboo.
They're not even close to being better than the Celtics.
They wouldn't have beaten the Calves in a playoff series
if they somehow rally from a three to one deficit
without Dame. So there's yeah, there there are some steps behind.

(27:55):
And I feel like you mentioned Lebron, and I feel
the same way with Brady Is. We're fooled that a
lot of these guys can play that long. Yeah, and
so we think, like, oh, Lebron's did is forty, so
Yanis will have another decade. If Giannis is doing this
at thirty five, I'll be amazed.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
But that's it, right, yeah, Like, and it's the dangerous thing, yep.
Like I only bring it up because look, as a
guy that's entered his fifties, changing up a ton of things, right,
I've been lamenting this morning. I ate a little something
that I've been on this PhD weight loss diet here
as part of our program at Fox Sports Radio. And
you know, you keep yourself regimented. While I went off

(28:33):
the beaten path a little bit with my daughter, and
today I feel like I have a medicine ball around
my stomach. So it's one of those things that like,
all right, trust the process of what you're doing and
stay through. And it takes a lot of discipline, and
we always get into that dangerous point where we pick
the guys that are the absolute best, right whenever we're
comparing quarterbacks, like well Tom Brady did this, Like Tom
Brady's the greatest of all time. He doesn't get to

(28:55):
be included in this conversation, correct or Lebron. But for
the purpose of health and conditioning, just trying to glean
those insights, and maybe they're just unicorns. Maybe they went
down to the crossroads. I don't know, but all those
things to say for Yannis and company, it's a very
uncomfortable place to be. And I feel for you because
once upon a time I knew superstars in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
It's been a while for you. They are at a
spot and if Giannis comes back, there's gonna be there's
got to be wholesale changes around it. Coaching wise, who knows.
I don't think that. I don't think that Doc Rivers
was the answer. I felt that Doc got a lot
of heat at the time, but Doc was a never
never in jeopardy of losing his job last season when
they fell apart, when Giannis and Dame were hurt, they

(29:40):
were paying You would have been paying four coaches. You
would have been paying Bootenholzer, you would have been paying
Adrian Griffin, you would have been paying Doc, and then
you would have had to pay the new guy. Well,
they're not paying paying Bootenholzer anymore, So he's gone, So
he's off the book. So now you're figuring out Adrian
Griffin and Doc Rivers. But so there's still the question
of then how much do you want to pay coaching wise,
and is you know, a coaching change going to be

(30:02):
the difference. I don't think so. I don't think Docs
and jeopardy of losing his job at all. But you
got to look at everything and changing in how you
change things around. And I don't think he's necessarily the answer.
But I don't think he's going going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
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Isaac Lowandron.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
Indeed, hello fellas, and two of the most magical words,
probably the two most magical words in sports. Game seven's
and that's what we got to talk about through Auto motal.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Dinners ready and tacos Dinners Dinner's ready, free tacos Game
seven all the same.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
You know, you could literally have that all in the
same Game seven. Perhaps that's an idea for the sports
marketers out there. On Saturday night, in Game seven of
the NBA Playoffs, Denver defeated the Los Angeles Clippers one
twenty to one oh one. They led by as many
as thirty five and will now face West one seed
Oklahoma City in the Conference Semis beginning on Monday, coming
up at six pm Eastern this evening Game one of

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the Eastern Conference semi Finals from Cleveland as the Cavaliers
host the Indiana Pacers. Then tonight eight thirty Eastern, Game
seven of the opening round from Houston, with the Rockets
hosting the Golden State Warriors. Now in Game seven of
the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday night, the Dallas Stars
rallied from two nothing down with twelve twelve left in
the third period to shock the Colorado Avalanche four to two,

(31:45):
as former ab Miko Ranton had had a hat trick
and an assist in the third period alone.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Here was the kapper.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Sega Claire's granted in for the hat trick. Odurs good
hats right down and the Stars we'll move on.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Josh Bogorad with a call on k tck Ranton in
the first player in Stanley Cup playoff history to have
a third period hat trick in a Game seven. So
Dallas we'll face tonight's Game seven winner between the Winnipeg
Jets and Saint Louis Blues. Face off of that game
at seven pm Eastern, and a short time ago, the
Jets just ruled out forward Mark Schiffley due to an

(32:31):
undisclosed injury. Shifley with two goals and four assists of
the first five games of the series, and scored thirty
nine goals during the regular season, the second most on
the Jets.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Guys, back to you, Thanks so much, Ilo, I had
Isaac Lohankron. Where you find him next, how We're gonna
get a little highlight of what else ILOs got in
his bag. Angel City FC. Some tremendous action on the pitch,
Dan Byer with me on Mike Carmen, thanks for being
with us here Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Shay
Christ making a sound so pretty, and we're gonna get

(33:02):
all get together as we do each and every Sunday,
and we'll leave you thinking about this. Who was left
that's still the best? Took everything to not do a
Rick Flair impression. We'll try to figure out what that's
all about next.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Here on Fox you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday,
Mike Carmen alongside Dan Byer having a blast with you.
It's a song that sounds so appropriate for me in
so many other, so many ways. So I'm gonna filibuster
and I'm just gonna hand the stick microphone over to you.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Dan, I will say it is my favorite holl of
Oats song, is it? Yes?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
It is dar karaoke Jim at your karaoke Jam says
if I have one song to do karaoke for, it's
out of touch.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
There are a lot of great ones, but this is
Numero uno on on my list. Another great song is
the theme to the feud, Let's play it, Let's get
the Fox Family together. Top seven answers on the board
today for the Fox Family, made up Mike Harmon, Chris Burfett.
I've kind of bypassed and try and trying to pronounce

(34:06):
Shay's last name, so I've called them producer Shay. That
guy Shae Mahanguard.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Is that I was probably the wow you out yourself job.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Thank you? And Isaac Loh and Kron make up the
Fox Family. Top seven answers on the board. There's no
pass in this one, and part of the reason why
is I think a perfect game could be an effect here.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
No pressure.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Top seven answers on the board, no pass available. But
there's been some coaching moves that now leave just seven
current NBA coaches who are still coaching in the league
that have won an NBA title. Let's name them all, right,
Mike Harmon, the seven current NBA coaches who have won

(34:49):
an NBA title as a head coach. We start with you.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I'm gonna go a little off the grid because we're
questioning how much blame he gets.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Tyleru Tylu, Show me Tylu did it in twenty sixteen
with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Over to Chris Purfett.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
I know I haven't checked him in them a second.
Is Eric Spolstra still coaching the heat?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Is that your answer?

Speaker 5 (35:11):
That is my answer?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Show me Eric Spolstra. There it is spolsterra off the
board twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. Over to Shay.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm gonna take the easy one off the board. It's
so sorry, Ilough, It's gonna be Steve Kerr.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Steve Kerr, show me Steve Kerr. All right, three for
three told you guys this would be cake work, cakewalk,
easy work. I felt bad after last week and missing
Harmon's Texas A and M on the draft, so I'm like,
let's just make it easy on myself as well. With
only seven answers. Over to Isaac Loohing.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Cross, Joe Missoula.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh, Joe Missoula. I wondered if people would forget show
me Joe Missoula winning at last year with the Boston Celtics.
Over to Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh, I just had that. It was on the tip
of my Doc Rivers, Doc River just talked about it.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
We had just talked about him. Show me, Doc Rivers,
all right to left, perfect game, still intact, No strikes,
Chris Purfett.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
This is where I'm starting to run out of the
names of coaches who I know off the top of
my head. No, I I don't. I don't remember enough
coaches in the NBA. Okay, to be honest, I'm just
gonna have to just throw it out there.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Jason Kidd, Jason Kidd, we know he won one as
a player, is it, Jason Kidd? It is not. It
is not first strike Over to producer Shay Coaches current
NBA coaches who have won an NBA title. So we
got Doc, we got the answers on the board are

(36:48):
Doc Rivers, Eric Spolstra, Steve Kerr, Tyler, and Joe Missoula.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Joe Missoula, so Celtics who's won recently? Warriors?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
We did that? Oh?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Is he still the coach though? Is the Raptors coach
still the coach?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Who would be the coach you're talking about? We are
going to need a name.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Oh God, please tell me out here. You're going to
take this one from me.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Do you want me to nurse? This answer is? That's
what it is. That's nurse. Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I need I need, I needed that. That wasn't my hint,
you know he was.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
That was completely innocent. That was brilliant, all right, Isaac
long Cron.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
When I asked if if you wanted me to nurse?
The answer out of you just in the nick of time.
It was actually a long preamble too, suggesting Rick Carlisle.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, and Rick Carlisle is another, I
think right.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Well, I on Isaac's turned I think he was conference.
Show me Rick Carlyle. There it is, You're seventh.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Let's put it on his back right now.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I thought this was this was pretty interesting because we
just had Popovich step aside. Yeah, so he had eight
budenhols are won one with the Bucks. Oh he was
recently let go by the Suns. So there's nine. So
there were a lot of like in the NFL, sometimes
you're like, geez, how many coaches have actually won Super Bowls?
In the NBA, it felt like it was it was

(38:24):
a bigger number than I realized.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I just I just was blanking on names entirely, Like
I knew Billy Donovan on my head, but like, no,
he hasn't won one. I'm thinking of college, Like I just,
I'm gonna be honest, it's just hard for me to
remember all these guys names because they move around constantly.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, and it's hard to remember, honestly of who's the
coach where like we joke with the Thunder's success, Mark
deagno is considered one of the best coaching minds in
the game. And I honestly still think people think Billy
Donovan is coaching the Thunder right Like I can.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I can attest to the fact that he's.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Not molder of Vike's bullsbsolutely, but I think that that's
that's that's interesting, Like back in the day, I felt
like maybe there are fewer teams. Also back in the day,
but I think there are certain teams around where you're
not remembering who the coaches are, don't know the names,
and some of the You know, like I, I don't

(39:16):
blame anybody for not knowing the Wizard's head coach or
the Hornets head coach. And then when you start thinking
of who actually won, we had to go back to
eight with Doc twenty eleven with Rick Carlisle.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
So I mean, even even mid season, I thought Dwayne
Casey won that championship with the Raptors, not Nick Nurse.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I am, but that's the difficulty have it right, with
the number of guys as they shuffle out. You talk
about veteran players coaching forcing out veteran coaches that you
could probably plunk a giant pile of money and just
say which some of these teams, like I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
And only spolstruk Kerr and Missoula are with the their
teams that they won the titles with No that's it.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Win Coach of the Year. Get fired. He's Dan, I'm Mike.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, More and
NBA Talk, including Well, we've got to have the funeral
for the Lakers. Let's get it on hour two of
the program. A quick sprint here. It's Fox Sports Radios,
Fox Sports Sunday. He's Dan, Byer my co host the
I Want Your Flex Podcast Fantasy Football. Goodness, we had

(40:15):
our mock draft ahead of the actual draft. We'll have
to revisit that at some point. With all the movings
moving and movers and shakers, the new would be stars.
I called it the stacking the cupboard draft for the
NFL Draft in that we had a couple of stars, yes,
but otherwise it's all about foundational pieces.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
How is the NFL Draft going to look trading card wise?
Like for these draft picks, are we gonna, like guess,
shoudors cards gonna be hot? Or it's a cam Ward
because there's not a lot of flash. It wasn't a
flashy draft. Ashton gen d card's gonna be hot?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
What do you think, Genty Hunter? Now with the change
in contracts and nil and everything else, there have already
been cards of these guys for a couple of years now, right,
So like I have in possession from a few years back. Hell,
there's Juju Watkins cards from twenty twenty two, yes, twenty three,

(41:16):
right when she was just coming into into college. So
you can, you know, look at the timeline of that.
So I've got a couple that are already three years old,
both Hunter and shador But yes, now you get them
in their pro teams start adding all of the licensing
and you know Bravado that goes with the Panini products

(41:36):
and now Tops and Fanatics taking over that license next year.
So you start looking at some of the classic names
and brands coming back into the forefront. So yeah, between
genty Hunter, Shador Ward. While they have cards in the past, yeah,
they'll be sought after, always looking for that next star,
that next investment piece, especially low numbered case hits. That's

(42:01):
the big thing now Dan, it's the case hit right,
So out of a twenty box case, you might get
one of this cool insert set. So right now they've
got something called Downtown, so it'll have a skyline and
an interpretation. Every year it'll be a different kind of
representation of a city and different players. So like this
year they started doing duels. So like for the Vikings,

(42:23):
there's a McCarthy and Jefferson card or the old Staples.
You start bringing back cards from Joe Montana because there's
still a collector base looking to add another Joe Montana.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
It's crazy. That's what I've said, is I remember if
you go through your old maybe tops from nineteen eighty sets.
I have the eighty five set that I got for Christmas.
You look back, I remember, like Dwight Stevenson, the old
Dolphin Center sure had cards. You're not getting Center cards anymore.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
There's a couple of sets that are still expansive, right
where you'll have a four hundred card set. No, no, no,
but they're they're they're the rarity. Like most sets are
one hundred, maybe one hundred veteran base and then one
hundred rookies, so you'll start getting guys that are undrafted
free agents, seventh round draft picks, and part of that,
they do a thing out here, pulling back the curtain

(43:16):
with my way too much knowledge on a Sunday morning
of this. But everybody collected cards, even if just a
little bit, maybe a Pokemon, same thing. But they have
a thing out here called the Rookie Premiere, so it's
where they get their photo. And it got ruined because
people started leaking how they were putting some of these
shots together, so they kind of tightened up security. Well,

(43:37):
once upon a time you had upper deck tops and
Panini slash dners, and they'd be in different parts of
say the Coliseum here in Los Angeles, and they'd go
from station to station and then they'd have a table
where they'd be signing stickers or cards in the interim
before it was their next photo shoot. And it was
fun to see and you'd get to meet these guys,

(43:57):
play a little catch and just just chat with them
a bit. But all of that to say is they
invite mostly skill position guys, including quarterbacks who may never
see the field. But because you'd rather pull the quarterback
that could be something rather than the number two cornerback
in the draft. We're just calling it what it is,
right Like when your team drafts a cornerback, you go, yeah,

(44:19):
it'll be great. Yay, No, no, you want the splashy thing,
just like that in cards, you want that guy.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
I remember, and we're talking about the eighties that I
can vividly remember eighty seven tops, Anthony Munos Bengals card
like I remember those in talking about lineman Muno's Hall
of Famer, no doubt about it, all decade teams, the
whole deal. But I just don't think that instead of
seeing linemen in these cards, you're seeing the Joe Montanas,

(44:47):
the Thurman Thomas, the Troy Aikman's guys from in the
past where you're thinking, oh wow, I got this card
instead of being like, oh great, I got an offensive lineman.
But also in the nineteen eighties, the insert specifically I
remember with football cards was my favorite was the thousand
yard Club.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
The yellow card.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yes, if you could collecting the thousand yard Club was
a collection in itself in trying to be like, oh
I need I just need two more. I just need
Bill Brooks from the Indianapolis Cults. That's all that I
need to complete my one thousand yard club. And I
remember because my buddy growing up needed Bill Brooks and
a whole bunch of Bill Brooks from the Indianapolis Colts

(45:29):
thousand yard clubs. But that was the only like insert
you would talk about.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah you not. And you had the flearhead stickers, yes,
and had puzzle.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Pieces oh that was yes for the baseball and you
know how much yell of diamond kings. But they were
just like the normal card. It wasn't like that.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
And then they became inserts and numbered inserts and rarities.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Thereafter that, so different on how it is now. But
to your point of now there's this downtown card. Now,
if I'm a novice and I'm opening up a pack
I'm getting I feel like I'm getting let's just say
it's ten cards in a pack I feel and you
could absolutely correct me if I'm wrong. I'm getting like
four normal cards. Then I'm getting three rookies, two of

(46:11):
which I may never have heard of before. And then
I'm getting three different sort of you say, downtown like
bombs away, steph curry, three point shot, splash yes or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
You know, I got one called the other day. I'm
not kidding you. It was Pozenski yesh y double e
s h. I'm gonna collect that set, just on principle.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Elevates like it's oh, I got a jamarant elevate card
and it's it's confusing.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
No, But that's the thing, right is and then you
have sets, and now we're going down a big rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I think this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
There's a Tops product called Heritage and and it's a
gorgeous set and every year they go and they emulate
one of the great top sets of the past. But
the problem is, if you're a novice, you don't know
what you pulled because there's a lot of variations, like
even in the design on the back, is the bat
upright or is it upside down? Is the color of

(47:19):
the back of the car different? Right, here's this thing,
or here it's got a gold foil to it. Here's
a serrely numbered card. Here's the all right, it's an
alternate image. Well they do that in baseball all the time.
It's like, oh, I it's a cool looking Jackson holiday card. Wait,
that's actually a one a case, you know, two hundred
three hundred dollars card. Because he's smiling at me as

(47:40):
opposed to holding a bat. But if you're not paying,
like because there's nothing on the card number itself that
distinguishes that. It just starts coming out as boxes getting broken,
and then the company will push out information of hey,
yeah there are fifteen photo images. Yeah, these are a
super short print. And so it's you've got to pay
attention to the break and the cycle as stuff starts

(48:03):
coming out and there's a lot of product that gets broken.
So you know, like anything it's collect with you, like
specialize and try to learn as much about it before
you plunk down your dollars.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Our Buddy rich Davis, co host of Cavino and Rich
here on Fox Sports Radio. I told the story a
couple of weeks ago that he's got a young son,
thinks about five or six, and he took him to
a card shop for the first time and just to
go in. And I joked, and I'm not sure Rich

(48:35):
got it or not. I go did the guy say,
do you want a hobby pack, a blaster pack or
one from a case? But I think those are decisions
that you have to make.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Blaster box, megabox, jumbo box. Costco sells you a tops
pack for thirty five bucks, which has a couple of
things from each series, and there's inserts that are special
only to those breaks. Right if you buy at Target
versus Walmart, versus Fanatics versus like, there's different configurations to
it all and different inserts and colors.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
And I, as a parents, I would be lost. I'd
have no idea. I would just and I think Riches like,
we just went in. You just wanted to get a pack,
couple of packs of cards. Open it up. Maybe you
get you know, tany, maybe you get a Lebron you know,
depending on what you're buying and and all those good
and that's how that's how I feel like it should be.
You know, it's it's not even close to that anymore.

(49:27):
But I've I've walked into those stores and have been like, Okay,
well that one is twenty seven ninety nine, that one's
forty seven ninety nine, and they're the same product, but
they're this jumbo pack is this much that you've just
opened and got on your desk. It's very very confusing,
and it it does not cater to the the novice.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well, but but it does. But it doesn't right because
if you are the novice, then you're not looking to
I have to open this box and I've got to
figure out how I get my forty nine dollars back. Right,
You're just buying You're just buying a box of cards, ye, right,
Versus I'm buying this as a potential money making opportunity.
Like they're two very distinct paths towards buying a box.

(50:13):
Like if you go to Target for your you know,
in sundry items, and then you pass the cards and say, hey,
I'm gonna buy a box of this. If it's just hey,
I got thirty bucks, it's basketball cards. I like basketball
cards as a kid, then you're not thinking I need
to pull what's the rare? Insert here? Can I get
an autograph? What's the best? Like you're just buying a
box of cards, and there's still a very large percentage

(50:34):
of folks whether they collect Steph Curries or the pazemskis
now or or Victor Webin or you know Lebron James
or owing to the veterans that are being included in
these sets. Right. I watched a guy open a box
from our local shop and he pulled for the guy
a low numbered Mark Brunell. Okay, Mark Brunell's in a

(50:55):
set in twenty twenty four to twenty five which certain
percent or no. A better example was Jimbo Covert Okay, yeah,
Lineman Lineman hall of Famer Bears guy got a one
of one and started ranting and raving. He was salty
that he got a one of one. It's like a
dude's Hall of Fame b eighty five Bears. See, you

(51:18):
should just hang up your microphone because you have no
idea what you're talking about. Sure, now does the guy
on the other end that's gonna get that from that
Bears break? He's happy as hell because he bought the team. Yeah, right,
so that's that's a Bears legend that he's gonna get
and it's a one to one and people still collect
one of one's. But it's that kind of thing, right
If you're looking at it as a I'm going to
flip and get rich off of this, then yeah, prepare

(51:40):
to be disappointed often times you don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
It reminds me of, quite honestly, is gambling where there
are handicappers in Las Vegas that couldn't tell you names
of players on teams if they tried because they only
go via data. And then there's other guys that, like
like our Jared Smith, knows the sport, knows the sports,
knows the players, knows everything around it. And I think

(52:04):
that there's I think you can't be in the middle.
Like I almost feel like you can't be me that
knows the sports. But I'm not as in tune on
the gambling side of things, but I feel like I
know a lot of sports. You got to either be
locked in one way and know everything about it, specifically
the ins and outs and all the betting stuff with
the teams, or you got to be it another way

(52:26):
and just be totally totally oblivious and call the Chiefs
quarterback Peter Mahomes. You know, like true, and I'm joking here,
but the point is is they're only going via their data.
And I feel like that way with cards, like you
got to be in either just solely for the fun
of collecting and opening that pack, or you got to
know what you're buying and you got to know what's

(52:46):
coming in and almost being in the middle. I feel like,
I don't know, it's way to teeter.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Well, that's kind of where we're at in the fantasy realm.
I think you and I come at it from the
same way. We watch a lot of football. M hm.
So you've watched how those stats have been a versus
it's just raw data, yeah, which means you've got some
biases based on what you saw, your opinion of the opponent,
et cetera, versus just all right, this is what the
data says. This guy's gonna run for eighty four and

(53:12):
a half yards this year.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Here's reach yep.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Right, So you get to the cold hard and it's
the marriage, right, it's art and science like what we
do here, all right. I hope that's my goal every
week on radio is somewhere between information and entertainment. We
try to bridge the two. Maybe you think about a
subject a little bit differently, but if you're not laughing
along the way and having fun with it, like that's
what sports is supposed to be. Likewise, the trading card hobby,

(53:38):
and that's where you get those wins where if your
team ends up having a guy that breaks through, Like
think about Kansas City Chiefs Collectors seventeen and eighteen. Patrick
Mahomes was just a guy. You could have bought his
rookie cards for nothing. I pulled a second year card
that I sold off. Was a great one of one,
and I got good money for it, but it was
probably at the peak during COVID, probably got to be

(53:59):
like a two thousand dollars card for whoever owned it
three people later, just the way that that breaks. But
if you were buying up all the Chiefs rookies, guess what,
Suddenly this guy's super Bowl champion and you've got eight
hundred rookie cards that you've amassed from your purchases or whatever,
like the luck of the draw did George.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I don't know if they did this in Chicago, but
did like the local police station ever like give out
trading cards of like White Sox or Cubs.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I think there were a couple of and they always
did a trading card set, okay as a giveaway, both
teams did, and it was always seven to eleven or Gatorade.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Gotcha, I thank you. So my local police department growing
up in Wisconsin would do a Brewers set every year,
and so if they if you're playing ball in the park,
cops pull up, Hey, we got you know, the next
round of the Brewers cards, and oh nice, they would
you know, hand them out. But they weren't tops, they
weren't anything. But later on I think they became that
because my mom randomly had a pack of Packers score

(54:57):
football cards from the mid two thousand doll and it
and Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Rookie was was in two thousand and five.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, So so if it's clean, that's it's a rare card. Yeah,
it's a rare you know sub section. And it probably
looks just like the other correct score cards, except that's
a different color. Yeah, maybe with a different number designation.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
But but it's it's like in that way like you're
just like, oh good, I got the I got the
Packer cards from you know, from the Cops, and it's
got Brett farre and it's got Donald Driver and yeah,
it's also got this Aaron Rodgers card. But that's you know,
it came within those.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
The regional stuff is cool. If you have any of
this stuff, I'd love to see it at swownd Dome.
Dan loves the nostalgia that had Dan Byron Fox. The
Mother's Cookies were always the big deal up in Oakland
when Maguire and Conseco, when those guys were running, so
you'd get you know, those glazed animal cookies really needed
something to break down the coating on that. But either

(55:59):
way they sold very well. And if certain times a
year you would open them and have a pack of card.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
What about King b Jerky snuff? Those circle cards, those
are the best.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
If you've got clean edges, they have great value. See
that's where we get into the fun and excitement of grading.
By the way, I have a nice thousand yard club
Jerry Rice from I think it's eighty seven or eighty eight.
I will bring to you the next time.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
All right, we're here.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
We'll add to Dan Bayer's collection as we flow. All right,
So there it is a little trip down memory lane
and perhaps some information to make you a little smarter
in your retail purchases. Hopefully I did not give you
the fever. I was like, I'm gonna go boy some cards.
Approach with caution and let me know what you find
out there in the wild at dan Byer on Fox
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(57:27):
and we love you. Taking a turn back to the
NBA next. We've got two big stories. You got the
Lakers and what's next? Fifty two million reasons will kind
of hold over like the Sword of Damocles and then
the retirement or the move upstairs of Greg Popovich. What
does it all mean to our NBA world. We'll do
that next year on Fox. Greetings and welcome back in boy,
that was a good trip down memory line. Thanks for

(57:49):
your submissions. I don't know what the street value of
a Steve Hartman is, though dan.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Byer George Sands has sent us the Steve Hartman loose
Cannon's card from ninety ninety three. If the cards not
in mint, Steve's hair is, it's a gem mint ten
haircut from Steve.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
That has not moved all right at dan Byro on
Fox at Swallwindome, you want to continue that discussion and
fire off some of your favorite cards. We get into
some of the photos. There's a famous C three po
error card that looks like something it isn't. It's Sunday morning.
That's all I can say on it. But like there's
so many variations, non sports becoming a much bigger part

(58:30):
of things with Disney licensures and such, so you know
all the different ways to collect.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
I remember I think it was maybe ninety one NFL
Pro set came out and there was a Perry Kemp
error card where it had the wrong picture.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, there were a bunch of those in that set.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
But nobody because back then, again it's not like the Internet.
It's not. I mean, you see the NFL game for
three hours, guys who are wearing helmets, that's the last
you see of them. There was a question on which
one was actually Perry Kemp, like nobody knew because he
didn't know the faces of play. And so you're like,
do I have the air? I have two different ones.
I don't know which one's the air in which one

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is the correct one?

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Where you try to just find both images and have
yourself covered if you could. Now, as we turned back
to the NBA, we've got exits for squads. First round
is now over except for the game seven later on tonight.
We look at the Warriors, we looked at the Rockets.
Rockets were favored by three. Last I saw. We had
that laid down effort by the Warriors getting bludgeoned in

(59:31):
Game five to our former Northwestern Wildcat, Pat Spencer was
head button guys. That was just odd. And then Game
six expecting all right, you rested. I didn't realize you
could activate that many guys though. That's been the fun
part of the playoffs. Stand when teams are getting blown out,
it's like you could play that many guys. What the
hell it's like suddenly they're like fifteen guys in the

(59:53):
box score.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Box scores a lot longer. If I were to tell
you that the line moved from your Houston minus three,
which way do you think it moved towards Golden State
or even further further out, let's move towards Golden State,
so it as Houston minus two and a half is
one of the time. But again this could vary. But
the point is is I think that people feel that

(01:00:15):
it's Game seven, it's Golden State. If they're an underdog,
of course I'm going to be taking what opportunity. I'm
going to be putting my money on Golden State. I
think that's how people will look at it instead of
maybe looking at what's transpired these last two games.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, interesting, squad. You did a show with Ryan Hollands
yesterday here on the network. The Houston squad has been
fascinating to watch. You know me, I like guys that
are maybe undersize, fire plug looking guys. So why when
guys like Fred van Vliet have a good series. I
celebrate guys like that and you know, crafty veterans that

(01:00:53):
show up in big moments. And he's just been fantastic
these last few games. But the other side with the Warriors,
like beyond what you expect from Butler and Steph Curry
with whatever's going on with that thumb started to look
like he's going like Frankenstein monster kind of thing in
the early change there you're trying to find size like that.

(01:01:14):
We watched it with the Lakers, watched it a bit
with the Clippers at moments where they were undersized and
roster and matchup wise, we're not there for the Warriors.
It's it's kind of the same thing, youth being served,
but also how do you close down the middle because
they hadn't had an answer this entire No.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Steven Adams has been great for them as well. Like
he's he's been I don't want to say that he is,
he's been something that they couldn't solve. But we saw
Draymond kind of shut down Shngoon. I believe in Game
four and preventing that, and we're thinking, oh, they're locked up,
but no, Houston has an advantage. You said it, I

(01:01:52):
said it. The Houston's the better team. Ryan Hollins said
it last night. And Ryan obviously ten years in the NBA.
But Ryan is on the TV call for the Houston Rockets.
He's called their games for the last couple of years
as their analysts on their TV broadcast, so he knows
the Rockets better than anyone. And he says, yeah, they're younger,
they're faster, they're better. All of that is true. But Mike,

(01:02:14):
I still think, and it's not a you gotta beat
Steph Curry, you gotta beat Jimmy Butler. I think that stuff.
He's overrated. I do think there is something about solving
the riddle of a game seven and well, Houston may
be the better team, it's still the race to four wins.
And now with this on the line, Houston does have
all the momentum they've won the last two games. I

(01:02:36):
still think that there is a hurdle to climb in
figuring out how do you win this game? In the playoffs,
and we know that golden state of least Steph Curry
knows how to do it. I don't know if the
Rockets will know, and maybe they won't need to. Maybe
they'll win by twenty and then tomorrow we're all saying, well,
the Rockets were just the better team. The Warriors didn't

(01:02:57):
have much. But I do think I think that there
is something to this game seven when you're just trying
to figure out, all right, how do you get through
these forty eight minutes with more points than the other team.
And that's that's the goal. The goal is in the series. Now,
it's the one game, and how do you win this
most important game? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
My favorite stories we mentioned him there, Steven Adams, He
and Rudy Gobert are putting up two of the greatest
offensive performances in these NBA playoffs. Things you never thought
you'd say for one hundred hours, you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Know, And you know what it reminds me of, Mike.
It reminds me of when NFL teams run the ball
and run over other teams in the playoffs, because you know,
maybe the egos are a perfect example. Everybody is in
a race to get the quarterback in the quarterbacks favorite
targets and running the ball, and you now have edge
rushers who are two hundred and thirty pounds. And then

(01:03:52):
when you get to the playoffs and you're running the
football and you don't have the personnel to stop the run,
those team teams fare better in those situations. So I
think San Francisco has had success. Philadelphia obviously, with their success,
teams are now being built on defense to try to
stop the pass because that's how offenses are being built.

(01:04:12):
And it may not be pretty during the regular season,
but I feel it's the way in the NBA as well.
Nobody's dealing with seven footers that play down low. Now
you know when Benyama's playing on the perimeter as well
at seven to four, however big he is, but there's
not that true center position. So when you have that
advantage like Rudy Gobert, like Steven Adams over a Golden

(01:04:34):
State team that really doesn't have the size at all,
it becomes it becomes magnified. And look at what Minnesota
did to the Lakers without their guys in the middle
twenty four rebounds. I mean, it's because they're not built
that way. We knew that they we knew the Lakers
had warts inside, but they're not the only team in
the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Would have been nice to see Jackson Hayes break a sweat, sure,
but we'll get to that second. One of the things
as we watched Kentucky derby coverage and we start looking
ahead to our sporting landscape and the change we have
the return John Tesh long guy telling me about birthdays
before Bob going Uh started doing it on episodic entertainment magazines.

(01:05:17):
He also penned one of the greatest songs ever. Everybody decided.

(01:05:43):
So we have all the orchestration. They've got a bunch
of video montages and stars from the different NBC slash
Peacock properties humming along because it's ubiquitous. It's a great
Saturday Night Live skid from all those years ago with
Jason Sedakis Uh making fun of it. But we talk
about happy return, so like the sadness and reality of hey,
guys are aging out. We talked about Giannis and where

(01:06:06):
he's at in his continuum. Damian Lillard, even if he plays,
he's in his mid thirties. At this point, the Lakers
have their fifty two million dollar question with Lebron James
player option, no trade clause, So is it a foregone
conclusion he's in a Laker uniform or can everybody kind

(01:06:27):
of look at each other and maybe they weren't happiest
at the end, he and Luca and some of those
little fly by comments from Lebron and his exit interview
that maybe not always right with the world there and
maybe they look to something else.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I'll say this, I think that I think that Lebron
has the opportunity to do something that would really change
a narrative, and that would be to opt out and
just take significantly less to help the organization and to
help him get one more title. It's difficult to do
that when you could make fifty two million dollars, as

(01:07:03):
you said, a season, and it's not the option of
he's not going to go to another team, right because
now Bronnie James is on the Lakers. Why would you
leave after one season just to bring him in and
then go play elsewhere like that doesn't Well, he got
a eight million guarantees, he did, he did, But imagine
if Lebron took three million, you know, took ten million, sure,

(01:07:27):
leaving forty million dollars on the table. I think it
would change a bit of a narrative about lebron Maybe
not wholeheartedly, but to say, you know what, I'm gonna
plan on the discount because I want to win a tome.
That's why I'm playing. He really has nothing else to
play for. In fact, the reason why I thought maybe
he would step aside after this season was because guess
what I did get Bronnie James to the league we

(01:07:49):
played together. That seemed to be the final box to check.
Walking away from forty million dollars Maybe foolish, but boy,
if he opted out and just took a less deal
to get back of the Lakers, that would be that
would be something that would be a way to change
the narrative.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Well, because that's where you're at in the chaos of it.
Roster wise, it's not a whole lot you can do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
One of your other pet projects is you got to
fix the guy that he wanted in this year's draft, right,
it was Brony and it was Dalton. Connect with the
two guys he talked about, Sure, and then connect after
the failed trade was a shell of himself. Yeah, and
he's worse defensively than Lucas. Yes, we can ponder that
for a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Well, yeah, and there's there's also the question of Lebron
gives you the numbers, and Lebron gives you the fame
and the name and everything that comes with it. But
him defensively is now a question and that is that
worth fifty two million dollars all encompassing? Probably so, But
realistically does that make the Lakers a championship team? Probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Well, it's funny because one of the things you and
I were going back on right is in the collapse
of the Lakers, and it's a note you sent me
as we were exchanging ideas is the Nico Harrison thing.
And we did the you know, chuckle on on the night,
and I still thought short term for Dallas, it was
an interesting trade if guys had stayed healthy. As that
roster was constructed with the Bigs, with Lively coming back,

(01:09:12):
Anthony Davis comes in, Kyrie Evan, Well, we know they're
gonna miss a couple of ins. We didn't expect Kyrie
to be done for the year. I would have loved
to see this iteration. But you know, to all the
Luca is out of shape and this and and whatever
it cost him a hundred million dollars in terms of contract,
and he could say, Okay, that's fine. There are reports
that they're gonna lose several hundred million dollars and it

(01:09:34):
makes sense. Right. It's like when shoey Otani left the
Angel Yes, all of a sudden that advertising goes away.
Those Japanese companies are all the way up here, up
the five and hanging out at Dodger Stadium, right, so
you lose all that. Likewise, for Luca as an international
guy and with the juice he had, they lost a
lot of money and will continue to do so on

(01:09:55):
the business side of it long beyond whatever the terms
of that trade was. So you've got two different different
avenues to talk about. From a basketball standpoint, I would
have liked to have seen this iteration of the Mavericks
as it was constructed. Could they have won it, I
don't know, but short term it was an interesting concept.
Long term, yeah, it's a loss.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Yeah, it's and I felt that both teams would have
been better off not doing the trade this season. Long term,
it's better for the Lakers, it is. I don't care
like Anthony Davis and your point about the injuries. I
think That's the whole point that I had a problem with,
is you're putting your eggs in a basket of Kyrie,
irving Anthony Davis and Klay Thompson to stay healthy. Kyrie

(01:10:37):
has been hurt since his freshman season at Dupe. Yeah,
like there's always been something with Kyrie. May may not
be season ending like this injury, but there have been
other injuries that have kept him out significant amounts of time.
We know It's followed Anthony Davis around, and claym has
two seasons of his NBA career after a couple of

(01:10:58):
severe injuries. Right, So that was that was was actually
second or third in my reasons of why I felt
that the trade was bad. Number one is kind of
what you talk about. I just didn't think Lucas should
have ever left Dallas. I think that Dallas fans would
have been happy if they would have had Luca and
not won a title. I don't think winning a title
solves anything. And now you talk about those advertising dollars, Yeah,

(01:11:19):
it's another miss. I felt people ran to the cashier
to cash in their chips or were doing it just
to be contrarian this week, to be like, yeah, Nico
Harrison's laughing. Nico Harrison's got a ten and seed as
a team that doesn't have their starting point guard back,
and now you have an Anthony Davis a year older.
How can they be laughing? There are no there are
in no shape. You think the Spurs are gonna stink

(01:11:41):
next year? Uh huh, Not gonna happen. Not with a
full season of the Aaron Fox, Victor Weben Yaman, everything
that they've got back. So like Dallas, isn't it in
this prime spot? And I felt that people were saying, see, look,
this is why Nico got rid of of Luca. It
was an awful trade. Luca's got a whole offseason to
get in the shape if he wants to. I couldn't
stand it to hear people defending Nico Harrison just because

(01:12:04):
the Lakers lost in five.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Now, on the plus side, for Nico, I'll still contend
none of that happens without the invisible hand of many
people in that boardroom. So while he's got to be
the public face of it and wear it that, you know,
unfortunately that's the job of the GM. Yeah, they gotta
have a fall down.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
I was surprised at this backglass. You were what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Well, I'm not saying he handled any of the press.
I mean, that's my nice job. If Scott and Don
and Julie decide they're done with me, I'm gonna go
offer my services, like we're gonna talk for ten minutes
before you get in front of a micro sure, and
we're gonna we're gonna ferret out all possible questions. All right,
let's start it over our guy, Isaac loewen Kron one
more time for a trip around the sporting universe, including

(01:12:47):
one very near and dear to his heart, because it
was a highlight that I told him I need to
hear it on air for the world to hear the
greatness of Isaac long.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
I appreciate that, and that's certainly notable. And that is
coming up after we get to some Game seven starting
on Saturday night of the NBA Playoffs, as Denver defeated
the Los Angeles Clippers one twenty to one oh one,
so Denver will face West one seed Oklahoma City and
the Conference semis beginning on Monday tonight at six pm Eastern.
It's Game one of the Eastern Conference semi Finals is

(01:13:17):
the Cleveland Cavaliers hosts the Indiana Pacers at eight thirty Eastern.
It'll be Game seven of the opening round series from
Houston between the Rockets and the Golden State Warriors. In
Game seven of the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday night,
the Dallas Stars rallied from two to nothing down with
just twelve twelve remaining of the third period to beat
the Colorado Avalanche four to two, as former AV Miko

(01:13:40):
Rantanen had a hat trick and an assist in the
third period, alone, becoming the first player in the history
of the Stanley Cup Playoffs to have a third period
hat trick in a Game seven. The Stars will face
tonight's Game seven winner between the Winnipeg Jets and the
Saint Louis Blues in the second round face off between
the Jets and the Blues at till seven pm Eastern

(01:14:01):
time this evening. Earlier today, Winnipeg ruled out forward Mark Scheifelee,
who was their second leading goal scorer during the regular
season and had two goals and four assists in the
first five games of the series, due to an undisclosed injury.
In Major League Baseball right now, the New York Mets
and Saint Louis Cardinals tied at one at the bottom
of the second inning, and Minnesota's Byron Buxton let off

(01:14:23):
the game with a home run. At Fenway today, as
the Twins have a one nothing lead over the Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
Going to the bottom of the first inning.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
Now you want me to do this now, Harmon?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Yeah? Here right?

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
So on Friday, a National Women's Soccer League match between
Angel City FC and the Washington Spirit. Angel City FC
has two sisters on its roster. Alyssa Thompson twenty years
old Giselle Thompson, her younger sister by thirteen months nineteen
months old. Both recently played together on the US national team,

(01:14:55):
and in Friday's match at Washington, they were on the
field together as they became the first sisters in the
history of the league to combine on a goal long
passed by Kennedy over the top. Alessa Thompson left the
area for angel citing Thompson with a left putting cross.

Speaker 7 (01:15:13):
Score just so Topson a sister act.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
A beautiful moment for Angel City and especially for the
Topson family.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Nicely done at Isaac Loehancron. That's pinned there, that call
invoking the old Whoopie Goldberg Harvey Getel classic.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Was it planned? Or do you not want to reveal
your secrets?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Was what planned?

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
The sister act line for how good it was? You know?
Jim Nantz writes down his master's lines he does.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Hello, friends, Thank you very much, Isaac getting it done
all right? Coming up next, we're going to take a
turn to the world of the NFL. We'll stay in
Los Angeles with an aged quarterback. What's next for him?
His coach had some thoughts and maybe we do two
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Whether you love what we say, hey, would you say?
Just don't be indifferent. Keep the line moving right, That's
the whole thing. Add Dan Byron Fox where you find Dan.
Find me over at Swollen Dome. Keep the pictures of
your trading card collection coming as well. Last one, we
do a quick minute on football here in Los Angeles,
Sean mcvaigh doing the media rounds post draft talk about

(01:16:51):
how he wants Matthew Stafford here for the foreseeable future.
Now Stafford has two years left on his deal. Obviously
they've had some some off field stuff, health issues with
his wife and for his own self. At this point
mid thirties, injuries are piled up and uneven performances. Dan

(01:17:13):
would be I think the kind way to say it right,
finished with a flourish. They're like, oh, there were one
playway here. It's like, yeah, if they actually had some
semblance of good play from him. And I know guys
are hurt, but he finishes with twenty touchdowns twelve interceptions
and folks want to put him still as this upper
echelon guy. It's like, he isn't spurts, But you got

(01:17:33):
two years left on this deal before there's a void.
So unless there's secret option B. I have to agree
with McVeigh that you're gonna get the best out of
him for two years.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
It's funny you would think like you normally think. However,
this is the same head coach. And I've said this before.
I am jealous because I'm a Seahawks fan, but I
would love to be a fan of Sean McVay. I
am a huge, huge fan of his. And when you
see his transformation. If when he came into the league

(01:18:07):
being the youngest coach to ever be a head coach,
and then the people that he surrounded him with to
make it work, and then after a few years he's
still the youngest head coach in the league, they go
to a Super Bowl. Then a couple of years later
they go and they win a Super Bowl. It's been
this climate. He's his own man. Now he's his own
he is he is in charge of the operation. And
the moving off of Jared Goff when this team was

(01:18:29):
a playoff team at that time shows me that he
does not care and that they will make the moves
necessary if need be so while the contract helps them
for this year and may hurt later down the line,
I would not with the two first round picks in
twenty twenty six, and what does a quarterback heavy draft.
I'll take what he's saying with a grain of salt.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Least as we look at it, we've got this one year.
I mean, he's still heavy on the books, right, we're
talking about that Lebron territory in terms of the millions
against the cap. But you look at what else is
on the roster at the moment. It's my old friend
Jimmy Garoppolo. He's a White Sox fan, so kindred spirit.
And then you've got whatever Stetson Bennett can become. Remember

(01:19:10):
he was away from the team of a while, so
at least for this year, unless they pull a rabbit
out of the hat and someone becomes available, we're looking
at twenty twenty five him throwing to Devonte Adams and company.
But then yeah, all bets are off. Next year. Is
curious to see how many of those quarterbacks we're still
excited about.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I think next year, a year from now, the Rams
are going to be one of those three teams that
we continue to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
As long as they don't fail again. And he thinks
about leaving for TV, I don't want to have to
do the speech to get him back out of side.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
That's always going to be there, That's always going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
There at damn viron Fox where Are you fine and
find me over at Swollen Dome. Have a blast Sunday folks.
Thanks for hanging with us. Thanks Chris, Thanks Shay, Thanks
Ilo Pace

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