Mike Harmon & Dan Beyer Talk NFL Schedule Release, Derek Carr, NBA Playoffs, And So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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they keep things going. Major League Baseball flowing. The Rockies
are actually worse than my White Sox historic twenty twenty
four campaign. So all of that and then some. And
my guy Dan Byer is here with me. Hi, I'm
Mike Carmon. Welcome in another couple hours here with us
this morning. So much to get to. NFL trades, retirements,

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NBA playoffs, and Mother's Day.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Happy Mother's Day. Tell the mom out there, My mom
included my wife as well. Hope everybody is enjoying and
treating their mothers. Well, oh you.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Wanted to say treat your mother right? I got that
Mister J's song in your head.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well well here there was there was
a pause. I didn't want didn't want to copywriters Deal
from Anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Nineteen eighty four, A classic when the rock and wrestling
connection and on the road put it into.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
My head early today.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well that's it, though, it becomes an earworm because that
will never leave your head. Now, we'll hear that a
little bit later on as we go gues. Happy Mother's
Day to all the serve that very widely defined role
across this world. I'm still blessed to have my mom
down in Florida. I got. I woke up to a
couple of text messages from her. It just generally does
not happen unless say, I haven't heard from you, where

(01:49):
the hell are you? Kind of thing. This was, you know, sweet,
my younger brother had made the trip down and we'd
sign some cards, and you know, you get sappy and
you start because here's the here's the trick they're now doing, right.
You get good cover art on these nine dollars cards,
because that's the other thing get. You get a thing
of pencil, you know, colored pencils and markers, and even
if you can't draw worth anything save yourself, to nine dollars,

(02:10):
it's a lot. It's a lot. Like I think my
older brother picked out a car that was like sixteen
bucks and we looked at each other's like there's no way,
just no way that that's an extra sandwich that that
someone's not eaten. But the trick now is you open
up the car and like you either it goes one
way or the other. You've got pros that goes on
for days like they're they're Charles Dickens writing, you know,

(02:32):
the episodic thing to keep the money flowing in, or
it's a blank slate.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
There is there is no happy medium, right, It's mom,
Happy Mother's Day, inside, Happy Mother's Day, and that's it.
That's one end of the spectrum. And then you said
it's a novel in some other parts.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Mike, I'm reading this like, I don't know. That third
paragraph gets a little odd, so you get that out.
But all that to say, happy Mother's Day, brunches and
lunches and barbecues and whatever else you're doing, if you're
all to celebrate with those that are with you there
at fantastic times for those missing their moms. We'll try
to allay some of that today with some laughter, some

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information and I'll as always, we just tell you, you know,
keep those phone lines, heat it up and make those
calls to your people in your life. All right, as
we get going, Dan, you know, the NBA playoffs have
been a fantastic topsy turvy world right on a night
to night basis. We've gone back to something I think
maybe fifteen years ago. I had this process whereby I

(03:35):
would figure out, all right, notify me when there's about
five minutes left, and I'll dial up here. You want
to see the roller coaster, because back then it was
all right, is it close late? Here we're getting some
of that, but you're getting some giant twenty twenty five
point swings in the interim, right blowout for two and

(03:56):
a half quarters, and then massive comebacks, and it's just
been just kind of an odd pacing. We used to
see that in college basketball a lot, right, where you'd
get the old momentum runs and all those kind of things,
whereas with the NBA we're seeing more of it. But
because of some of these early round gaffs, some early

(04:17):
round inequities and lack of stellar play, we've got intriguing
series across the board. Right home teams losing what they
had six straight before that finally got snapped here in
the second round, which makes for a lot of anxiety,
but a lot of interest because you're seeing the TV ratings, whatever,

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the Q rating, in terms of articles written, social media engagement,
all of that bounces up because everybody's got an eyebrow
raise because game to game, you don't have any idea
what you're getting, much like the old box of chocolates
from Forrest Gump.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, I would say fifteen years ago, I would say
ten years ago. I'd actually say probably eight even eight
years ago, we knew exactly what we were getting, and
that was a problem for me in the NBA and
Mike it's actually been a problem for the last forty years,
and at least in my mind. Others may not feel
that way. But to your point about we see this

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sort of stuff in college, we don't necessarily see it
in the NBA, I also think that that's a good
thing because it's a bit of a representation of the
level of basketball that we have now. In saying that
the Boston Celtics of last year, or the Denver Nuggets
of the year before, or even the Golden State Warriors
of the year prior were some of the worst NBA

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champions that we've had, which I think that we could
say that I have no problem saying that. What it
has also done is delivered us a basketball product that
is unpredictable over these two months of NBA playoffs, And
it dawned on me recently and watching those Nick Celtics
games of the first two games of the series, of

(05:59):
how we freshing it was even yesterday with the Celtics
up so much, you're still saying, well, maybe the nixt
seven other one in them. We've saw it the first
two games. Why wouldn't it happen again?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Suddenly the three point shots don't fall and we get
back to it. Sure basics, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
But when I just vividly remember in the last two
finals that the Warriors ended up going to with Kevin
Durant obviously with the Raptors, but the one before against
the Raptors, but the one before that against the Cavaliers,
and the one in twenty seventeen. Prior to that, we
were just biding our time for another Cavaliers Warriors.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, but that was the thing right before the season,
Like we had a running joke in our other studio
like down the hallway was our original studio. We've moved
into these nice places, big lights, lots of tds. We
had a whiteboard and we would joke, jokingly do it
on the night of the first day of the NBA.
It's like, how many teams could be in the finals?
All right, Well, you gotta put a second team with

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the Cavs. You just can't write Cavaliers on the Eastern
Conference side. And then you had the Warriors and maybe
you pock on yeah, whatever the team was on that
given year, but that was it. Like you were playing
from a four team because you were forcing that four
team in because someone had to play in the Eastern
Conference finals. But otherwise, like unless you had a bunch

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of injuries and just ill timed, ill faded issues, it
seemed fata complete. And this year, while we had three
teams that ran away and hid in the regular season,
I think we've all come to realize regular season half
the teams don't play to win the regular season, right,
It's how do I get to mid April feeling like
we got some semblance of consistency on both ends of

(07:41):
the court. Oh, and to have all our guys healthy.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, I think I think there's a there's a point
now in the in the season where you need to
start playing well in mid March and and maybe end
of February mid March to ride some of that momentum
into the playoffs starting in mid April. But I think
that what we've seen is we may have seen the
level of team go down in the NBA a notch,
but I think that's what's added to it. This NBA

(08:05):
that we know was led by Magic Johnson, Larry Bird,
then Michael Jordan, then Shaq, then Kobe, then Lebron and
Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, all of those names, and those
have been the top pillar names that we've had, and
we expected to see those faces in the NBA finals.
We saw it for Lebron for almost a decade. I

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mean every single year Lebron's in an NBA finals. And
to your point, we're not that we're stretching to find
three or four teams. But yeah, there was the Rockets,
Yeah there was the Thunder, but we were basically planning
for a Warriors Cavs final, and it made the playoffs
pretty uninteresting. And even if the Western Conference finals were

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interesting at that point, it still took us seemingly five
weeks to get there, right through the first two rounds
of the playoffs. Now we have a scenario where again
I don't know who's good. I don't know if any
of these teams are great in the NBA playoffs, but
Doug Garnnett, they've given us great games and great storylines throughout.
So when you're talking about a twenty five point lead

(09:07):
by a team or a twenty point lead, yeah, right now,
these teams aren't perfect. We see seven point leads with
a minute to go in the games and teams completely
fall apart. There is something dramatic to that, and I
think it's made the NBA playoffs better. I don't think
these teams are great, but for my entire lifetime and
your entire lifetime, we've been told the NBA has to

(09:29):
be run by superpowers, and I think we now see
really what Parody is doing, and Parody is providing us
drama in April and May that we hadn't had for
a long time.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now for giggles, I went back a decade. Right, So
this ends in the Warriors Cavaliers four games to two finals,
first round to one, a four to three four to one,
four to one, sweep, sweep, four two, four to two,
second round four to three, four two four two for two,

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and then the conference finals were for to one and
a suite. To your point, right, not a lot of competition.
You have to go back game to game and see
exactly how the series flowed, right, the giveaway games and
all of those kinds of things. But to your point is,
you know, even in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, it might

(10:19):
have seemed in the moment the well week ish our
argument about hey, they haven't been here before, But championship
metal does matter, right, the ability to close out games.
We're watching it time and again, and it's a great
reminder for all of.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
You at your jobs.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Whatever you do, however you do it from pillar to post,
all the way across the globe on the iHeartRadio app,
not everybody always knows what the hell they're doing in
a position of power. Because how many coaching gaffs do
you spot on a daily basis, like losing seven point
leads in the final forty seconds or games, you know,
putting your right person on on so when you get fouled,

(10:58):
you don't have a guy that's a fifty two sent
foul shooter getting sent something.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
As simple as Mark Dagnall and the Thunder fouling Aaron
Gordon way too early on an inbounds play where in
game one, where like like that minor decision instead of
letting some time run off the clock and then fouling
them because you're up three in that scenario, like they
fouled way too early. And I don't feel like we
were breaking down like these scenarios in those cases because

(11:26):
maybe the games weren't closed. Maybe these things that we
were that were hanging in the balance really weren't because
we knew the ultimate outcome. But that decision in game
one could ultimately cost the Thunder the series, as now
they sit there down to one and I think that
I think that's great for the NBA playoffs, and it's
something that we've been told for forty years. The NBA

(11:47):
has run on stars and big brands, and now over
the last couple of years, we've seen it run on parody.
And I'm not mad about it. I can't be mad
about it. Twenty seventeen, Mike, that year, the Warriors lost
one game in the playoffs, and it was in the
NBA Finals. Thos who was sweep sweep, sweep Cavaliers, you know,
march through it in that same year. What drama is

(12:09):
there in that twenty seventeen Kevin Durant leaving for the
Warriors may have been the low point of the NBA
in the history because of how bad it took away
for the playoffs. But now we see these great games.
As you said, now a team's up twenty you know what,
I may stick around and see this because they could
actually blow it.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
But it's the tough thing, right, because we love dominance
on one side, right, because we all a lot of
sports celebradio yep, sports media is, let's celebrate greatness. Let's
celebrate dominance.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Me, being a Chicago guy, I go back on Friday
and the I'm at the White Sox game against the Marlins. Yes,
I went to see a White Sox Marlins game. And
they're wearing those City connect uniforms that bridge the bulls
in the White Sox and up close and personal, it's
pretty cool. Got a lot of graphics there. It almost
looks like Cain is coming down to the to the

(12:59):
ring to our WWE first reference of the day. But
like just people kind of celebrating that. But it's it's
that kind of thing of all right, this is different.
But going back to those Bulls teams, because that's where
the conversation is. Chicago's had outliers, right White Sox in
two thousand and five, which evidently the Pope was at
the game, which is a whole other thing. Is awesome, well,

(13:21):
but it's also going into a weird space. Way too
many people just making T shirts and trying to profit
off dub Pope. Yeah, I can't fault a good strategy,
what can I say? But otherwise you got the the
White Sox, all right, White Sox and O five Cubs
in twenty sixteen, the team that was supposed to be,
you know, this juggernaut. They had their one year, they

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got there and then they move off the Blackhawks. You
go back to a couple of years against the Kings
and some great battles, but otherwise you're going all the
way back to the Bulls. Jordan in ninety eight, and
obviously I was on the right side of it in terms.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Of, yeah, win every year.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Go For the rest of the NBA, it was it's
the bullsy end, correct, right, So for a decade we
celebrate greatness on one hand, but that's like the void
because you know, they got that laundry list of guys
and they never want a title because of that guy. Right,
A whole generation of stars never got their moment on
the dais because of those bulls teams. And but now

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we've got a whole cadre of stars that have a chance,
yes to take those next steps.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Who's going to do it? We don't know. We don't
know if it's going to be Anthony Edwards, who was
magnificent last night in the third quarter, in the second
half of the Minnesota tim Rowolves, like there was like
it's it could be his stage. SGA now has an
opportunity to try to turn things around and what is
likely the MVP season. Can Jokic do it again? There's
a lot of questions. Will Steph come back and play

(14:54):
the hero with the Celtics rebound? Will it be the
Jalen Brunson, Joe Hyre's Halliburton. I Like there's there's all
of these storylines that are still alive that could come
to fruition, and that didn't happen in the NBA ten
years ago, didn't happen thirty years ago, there were almost
predetermined outcomes, predestined outcomes because of how the NBA has

(15:17):
been built. And what that allowed us to do, Mike
was to say, guess what, the two thousand Lakers they
wouldn't have beaten, the ninety Bulls or the two thousand
Lakers they would have beaten. You have these arguments because
now you're going back in generations and arguing no one's
going to argue any of these teams that win a
title this year, last year, or the year before are
the greatest of all time, because they're not. They do

(15:38):
not measure up by any means. Maybe for Golden Stated
ads to the fourth but you could say maybe it
was the weakest of their titles. But in saying all
of that, and how we look at history again, how
great has this first month been of the NBA playoffs?
And my team got ousted in five games in the
first round and I've still been able to enjoy it.

(15:58):
So there's not even a bias of my team doing well.
Your team isn't even in the eighteen bracket, no offense,
but there's no reason for you to all of a
sudden fall in love with how this is the unknown
of the NBA has been what's been so great about
this last month? Last night, maybe Butler and Kaminga can
pull it off. Guess what Anthony Edwards not out of

(16:19):
his mind, but darn good last night ends up. Julius
Randall great for Minnesota. Guess what Timberwolves now up to one.
We'll see if the Warriors have a different story, if
Steph can come back. But all of it's still up
in the air, and it's I think it's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
We'll get back to Jonathan Kaminga because he's either hero
or goat based on something he did yesterday for you.
The other thing, this helps all these narratives. You went
down a laundry list of storylines. You don't have to
think about where's Giannis going right now? Sure you're still
thinking about basketball. Yes, I think that's great, and we're
not talking about Lebron. See there's the one time. I
don't think we're gonna mention him the rest of the show.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
So it's awesome, I feel in a way. Yeah, and
it may not again stack up to history, which is
the way that we've always done it. Mike sixties Celtics,
you know, eighties Lakers and Celtics, nineties Bulls. I mentioned
the two thousand Lakers, whatever team Lebron was on in
the twenty teens, like we stack those teams up to

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other teams. I don't think we're gonna do that in
the twenty twenties, but for our viewing pleasure, it's it's
been really good.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Well, next decade, when you and I are on the
air together, we'll do the other I got worst champions
of the twenty twenties. He's Dan Byer at Dan Byron Fox.
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posted right after we get off the air. Now, last
week in Front of a church, a big speech, Derek
Carr walking back and forth, taking his shots at media members,
taking his shots at the NFL collective and information flowing, etc.

(19:23):
We thought, okay, there's the off season Derek Carr. Let's
see what happens as we get ready for what was
supposed to be his final year in twenty twenty five.
And then abruptly the week ends and Derek Carr is
now retired, leaving approximately forty million on the table, but
he gets ten million back that they're not going to
chase him down for see Detroit. See he goes back

(19:45):
to chasing down those signing bonuses. Just let him take
his money. It's done. But now it opens the void
as to what the quarterback competition will be. You have
Tyler Shuck, who everybody has taken every opportunity, his age
and all these different metrics to tell you how terrible
he is. Right now, he's in the one chair. Spencer
Rattler there last year, and then Jay Hayner, your three

(20:08):
man battle barring something unforeseen happening at the quarterback position.
But immediately he's like, all right, I started ranking. And
while I may not love Derek Carr as a quarterback.
And that's the other part of this story, which we'll
get to in a second. Dan is you know, Derek
carr legacy is always just such a big, grandiose word
we put on things. But it's like, was he as

(20:30):
bad as as folks wanted to make him? Or was
he just pretty good and just not a lead? Right,
those kind of things. But Chris Alave, Brandon Cooks comes in,
and then you've got Alvin Kamara, three guys that, for
fantasy purposes, might have had a lave coming back off
an injury. Co all right, Derek Carr is not brilliant

(20:51):
and he's not going to light up the scoreboard game
to games, sure, but Chris Alave is really good boom,
all right, He's still going to be a back end
WR one. Right for Alvin Kamara, we talk about age
injuries question, but still a two threat back with the
number of receptions out of the backfield. Still a guy
probably hey RB backhand RB one, maybe high end RB two,

(21:14):
depending on your league's settings, depending on how you're going
through your processes. But now all of a sudden that's
cast asunder because it's something we have talked about and
it's the larger conversation because this doesn't just affect the
twenty twenty five season. It is something that we're looking
at quarterbacks for twenty twenty six, and there's that name

(21:35):
that immediately starts creeping up into the picture. Hasn't played
a lot of football, hasn't done a lot of other
but it doesn't matter. Developmental guy. It's kind of like
an NBA draft pick of hey, we'll teach them here. Yeah,
and that's arch Manning.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's absolutely arch Manning. That's why the conversation of should
or Sanders going to the Saints, which, by the way,
when Derek Carr retired, was brought up by some of saying,
cheez gosh, why don't you tay should or Sanders to
the point that you're making, well, they took Tyler Shook
three rounds before should or Sanders win, so that's obviously
where they wanted to go. But also when you take

(22:10):
Shook in the second round, you're not fully committed to him.
And the thing again with arch Manning, and we have
seen mock drafts come out for twenty twenty six. Some
will include him, some will not include him. I think
that you have to include him if the Saints have
the first overall pick, and I know that there's no

(22:31):
way to do a mock draft and really get the
order of teams. But Mike, again, we're gonna know, We're
gonna know where who has the number one pick when
Arch Manning ultimately makes his decision on whether to stay
or go. And again with the Manning pedigree, talk about
should or Sanders and what was the conversation leading up

(22:52):
to the draft. Though he may not play here, he
may not play there. We know the Mannings have done
it before. So if you want to keep Arch in Austin,
maybe there's a team atop the draft that he doesn't
want to go to. But if that team is the Saints,
ready or not, I think Arch goes into the draft,
and I'm not saying that they're tanking, but again, I

(23:12):
think Kellen Moore is there for the long haul. I
think this is a complete wash fantasy wise. I don't
see tons of value there. It's likely going to be
a wasted season for New Orleans. We'll just have to
find out if the payoff is big enough in the spring.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, that's the curiosity right when we talk about the Mannings. Obviously,
Eli and Peyton did their full times in college sports.
Now it's a different world. Arch has made a ton
of money. He's got endorsement deals, he's got his nil money,
family money. But certainly you look at between his Panini
nil and whatever else he's got cash. It's now just

(23:50):
a question of do you do the development of mind?
And we don't know if he's really any good at
this point. Right, he's got the surname, and he's got glimpses,
and he's faster than all those other guys. That's what
we know. But he's got a powerhouse team and the
expectations are what are they preseason number two higher state
in Texas. The last I looked where the top two squads.

(24:11):
So if he goes out and performs, then yeah, it fills.
And it's also a different day and age in terms
of staying through school. You can always go back get
your degree. You always could do this, Yes, dirty little
secret that I've been arguing about for years, like if
you really want to go back and sit in a
classroom or sit in your boxers at your house, it's
never been easier to get a degree. Sure, you can

(24:31):
go back at any point.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And the argument on nil is interesting because I think
it matters to a lot of the players in college football.
I don't think it matters to arche Manic, right. I
think that there are decisions Nil had Quinn Yours entering
the college game sooner than he should have been because
he couldn't make NIL in high school. So he says, well,

(24:54):
I'm gonna reclassify, I'll go to Ohio State early and
now I can make my NIL money. And there may
have been a rush process. He was could have stuck
around in Austin or transferred elsewhere, which is likely the
option if he didn't go into the NFL draft and
he ends up being a seventh round pick. But there's
a question where like NL, nil plays a plays a role.

(25:16):
The flips out of it is Arch doesn't necessarily need ANIL.
But even if that's one of the main points, if
you enter now, he is a year closer to getting
a mega deal as a quarterback if things play out,
and so I think that that would play in for
a lot of other quarterbacks. But again I think he's different.
I think that he they will they will pick their spots,

(25:37):
they will understand if this works here or there. And
I just feel if New Orleans is that spot. It
is a no brainer because of his grandpa, Like that
is a It is an absolute no brainer's where they're
all from now because of their grandpa, like it just
it ends up working out in Mike. I just so
the Derek Carr retirement is just another step closer to

(25:58):
arch Manning in my mind, being in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
What I think is also interesting is that it would
beget a different level. And I alluded to it before
for the NFL of we've done it a few times
where it's guy's got a very small sample size, right
Anthony Richardson, not exactly the best data point to jump
off of, but where you see some of these skills
and then it's a question of how quickly can you

(26:21):
learn can you teach him up, coach him up and
get him to a better spot. Well, clearly it hasn't
happened at this point. Now you've got competition in Indianapolis.
We'll see what happens. But we've always watched the NBA
Draft and it's always the well, this guy's turned eighteen,
we think he's going to grow another two inches. We'll
put twenty pounds a muscle on him, and in three years,
he'll be ready to be a contributing, rotational guy. Arch

(26:44):
Manning might be one of the guys that becomes a
prototype of a new NFL of Hey, we've got a
long build, right, we understand we've got some veterans we
want to make sure we don't give away the final
years of their career because they've got a couple of
guys that are long standing members there that I think
you have to sell them a little bit on this concept,
or maybe they'll beg to get traded by the trade deadline.

(27:06):
But the idea that we can draft the guy that
we think with our guy Kellen Moore long term prospect
that it might take two years, but eventually he's going
to be that guy. Like I used to argue that
with Maurice Klerett all those years ago, Right he ripped
up his leg and then you had all the court
stuff and everything else, and he eventually goes down a

(27:26):
path and is not an NFL guy. I'd had from
people I trusted a couple of teams that are like,
if we can get get him in here, we don't
even have to play him, Like he could just be
on the roster, be in our strength room, learn all
this stuff and eventually be our guy. For arch Manning,
perhaps there's a little bit of that. It's like developmental
for a year and if he outshines, then great he plays.

(27:48):
If not, he's our guy and we're able to you know,
lake Wame and build you know, empire with him.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
You're bringing Kirk Cousins for a season if you wanted
to in twenty twenty six or right. And it means
that they're also the not committed to Tyler Shook either.
We've we've seen teams not be committed to guys picked
in the top ten, let alone in the second round.
So there isn't There isn't the Only thing that the
Tyler Shook pick meant was that they just liked him

(28:15):
better than shoud Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel and Will
Howard and Quinnyres and other quarterbacks that were available at
that time. It wasn't a he is our guy. It's
just that we liked him better. We found his value
to be good in the second round. But by no
means are they absolutely locked in and committed to him.

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If the opportunity presents itself to get a better quarterback
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
All right, so seventy seven and ninety two for the career,
sixty five percent completion percentage, two hundred and fifty seven
touchdowns against one hundred and twelve interceptions, the career QBR
career rating of ninety two point eight at about forty
two thousand yards. Derek Carr, how would you evaluate? I mean,

(29:03):
you give him the eight to f what is he
a B minus?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I would I would grate him higher because of the
expectations that came in what was you an early second
round pick when he was drafted by the Raiders, so
there were expectations. But again you're not betting the farm
on them. The the the broken leg in their playoff year,
I think is the one that's going to to live

(29:29):
on and be the year. Obviously, he's not going to
the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I don't think you
could put him up there with the Raider greats just
because there have been so many great Raiders. But he
will be a fan favorite of the Raiders because when
when have they gotten quarterback play? You know, like that
outside of a re emergence of rich Gannon late in

(29:50):
his career thirty years ago. Right, they went and well,
they went in two thousand three around that time, still
twenty years get myself another decade. But Mike, it's not
like they were. They were they were littered with great
quarterbacking after Jim Plunkett, you know. So he gets into
that group like he'll be loved by the Raiders. His

(30:12):
number obviously is not being retired. But he'll be loved
by the Raiders, and that's that's good enough because there
are guys who have given more to their teams that
maybe aren't recognized as much as they should, because then
it rise to the level of others. He'll be a
Raider for life. That's who Derek Carr will be, and
that'll be good enough.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Always had that what if from that season right, they
were extraordinarily uncannily healthy the entire year. I don't know
how it might have been the fewest games missed by
twenty two starters in NFL history until he broke his leg. Oh,
MVP season, all of that shaping up and just like
that torn asunder.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
A lot of guys would would if you could tell
them that they have the career that Derek Carr had.
As crazy as it is, and how we pick apart
things Mike and look at levels like that's a good
NFL career, So best to look to him. And in
the life after football.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
There you go at Dan Byron Fox find me over
at Swollen Dome. Now it's houd to take a turn
off the newswire fantastic with our guy, Isaac Lowing Crown.
Hi Love, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Happy Sunday, Let's get it starting with today's NBA playoff
action that tips off at three point thirty Eastern from
the Mile High City with Denver holding a two games
to one lead over the Oklahoma City Thunder. In Game three.
On Saturday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves what a Golden State
on two to ninety seven for a two games to
one lead. Anthony Edwards thirty six points, including the clinching

(31:35):
three with one nineteen to play, and Julius Randall had
a twenty four point ten rebound at twelve assist triple double.
Today's Stanley Cup playoff action faces off at four thirty
Eastern from Dallas, with Game three in the Stars in Winnipeg.
Jets tied at one win a piece wild finish. On
Saturday night, the Vegas Golden Knights in Edmonton Orders tied
to three in the final second of the third period

(31:57):
of their Game three. Here were Dan do and Gary
Lawless on Fox Sports ninety eight point nine and thirteen
forty Las Vegas.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Five seconds centered off the stick in the slot.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Smith gets around.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
The goaligue they scored. No, it's waved off. They waved
it off. The referee waved his arm saying no. The
Golden Knights think they've won. They won deero point four.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
The puck completely cross the line.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Gol Vegas wins at four to three. Edmonton leads the
series two games to one. That actually went in off
the stick of Edmonton's Leon dry Side. We've seen I
think more own goals in this year's Stanley Cup Playoffs
than in any other year that I can remember.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I will say this. Edmonton evened it up on a
shot that was off of a Vegas Knights defenseman skate,
so I for an eye in that kid.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
What's the over undrown owned goals today?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Let me check the refresh one and a half.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I'm taking it.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I'm taking the over baby. We got one major League
baseball game going on right now. The New York metsa
won nothing lead over the Cubs after two on an
RBI tripled by the Mets Luis Torrenz on Saturday nights,
oh the Colorado Rockies. The San Diego Padres defeat of
the Rockies at Corsfield on Saturday night twenty one to nothing.

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The Rockies have allowed fifty five runs over the last
three days. That's the most runs a Major League team
has allowed on a three day span in seventy five years,
since the Saint Louis Browns in June of nineteen fifty.
The Saint Louis Brown's now known, of course as the
Baltimore Orioles.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Back to you, guys, speaking of the Orioles through thirty
nine games, the nineteen eighty eight Orioles tied with these
twenty twenty five Rockies for the most losses through thirty
nine games, with thirty three. I spills, they're outpacing my
White Sox of a year ago.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
I still remember that Sports Illustrated cover when the Orioles
started Ozhen twenty one. I think that year that was
historically bad.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
You're right, terrible stuff at Isaac Lowenkrown. I have a
bigger rant about the GMA and everything. I'll save that
offline because that might be colorful, h and a glimpse
into the wonderful world of management and recognizing your part
in what you've brought to bear. Anyway, he's Dan, I'm
Mike coming up next. Less is more, except in the NFL.

(34:17):
We'll crack the code next year.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
On Fox.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
See now, I'm all jacked up.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. Mike Carmen, Dan
Bayer with you, and it's that time, that special time
of the show. Everybody's got their extra caffeinated beverages and
Dan's got a stick microphone.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And it's time to get the Fox family together on
this Mother's Day. Great megamix by Chris Burfett on that one,
blending one to another. The Fox Family consists of Mike Carmen,
Chris Purfett, producer Shay Shane Mahanguard. All right, thank you
very much, but it does not include Isaac Glow and
Crown Today. What kind of Isaac is going to be

(35:01):
a lifeline? You could call your I Low if you
guys want, there's one available for a game. The reason
being is Isaac passed along this topic to me during
the week and so a perfect opportunity to use this
on the show. And I'm going to put forth this rule,
Isaac if this ever happens again, you will host the
game and I will play along with the Fox family.

(35:22):
So you don't even need to send it to me.
You can say, Dan, I found something that's amazing. I
want to do it for the feud. I think it'd
be great. We'll hand the long skinny stick microphone over
to you and you can do it, all right, love
it all right? You so, but today you will at
least be a lifeline. So you're included. Top eleven answers
on the board. Eleven pro sports franchises in Major League Baseball,

(35:44):
the NBA, and NHL with no S at the end
of their nickname. Now the NFL doesn't have any of these,
so they're not even included. But we're looking for the
the eleven teams in those three leagues at this second
of what their their names are that do not have
an S at the end of it. Mike Carmon, three

(36:04):
strikes and an I Loo available. We start with you
and Homo City, all right, show me the thunder. Obviously, yes,
there is no S at the end of thunder Oklahoma
City is off the board. Let's go over to Chris Purfet.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
So let me get that right about the not I
mean at this second, right now. So does the Utah
change the NHL as that in effect right now?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well? Did they change their name earlier this week? They
I don't know if that's official. That's why i'm as well.
I think they did. I think I'll save that just
in case.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
But yeah, sure, sure, I'll go with Mammoth.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
There it is.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
It's a timely reason. We try to make some of
these timely at times, and that is the reason why
this is so timely. Over to producer Shay.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
I'm gonna go Jimmy Buckets's old team Heat.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Miami Heat. Yea Heat, show me the heat, all right, right,
three for three? Back around to my Carmen. Oh wow,
you can use your I low if you'd like. No, no, no,
I love THEE low. I think I know that nicknames
that don't end in S jazz show me the Utah jazz. Yeah,

(37:17):
it's all Utah. Utah is like the heck of these
essays we.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Were running by our own rules.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Were the utah ute? All right, let's go to let's
go to Chris Perpett.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Well, let's set this up, this answer and someone else
would take an answer to give me the Red Sox.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Show me Boston Red Sox. All right, Boston's off the board.
Five for five. Isaac Huban press so far with how
this uh Fox family knows their sports pleasantly?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
So pleasantly.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
So let's go to producer Shay I.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Thank god Chris just said the Red Sox because I
was I did not know what I was gonna do here.
Let's go White Sox. Yeah, show me the White Sox.
So Carmen's team from them, jerk, I'm back around to
my Carmen.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
All right.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Now, let's let's start pondering.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
This nicknames with no s. At the end, there are
five answers. Last week got the Mammoth Red Sox, White Sox, Thunder,
Keat and Jazz.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Should be just smacking me in the face, but it's not.
I Loo.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
This team had a mascot named Puff the Dragon.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Oh you could just give the answer, I love, Oh, Okay,
just give the answer.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
I think it's more interesting this way. The Magic of Orlando.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
All right, Orlando Magic off the board? All right? Perfect score.
Also because the time constraints. We're at about eighty seconds here,
sixty seconds Chris Purfet Uh Timpa Bay lightning, show me
the lightning. All right, guys, we have a perfect game going.
Three answers remaining over to Shay.

Speaker 8 (38:55):
I'm assuming it's all hockey right now, that'd be correct.
I'm assuming it's all Oh god, we have a time.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Skip me here. Okay, we're just gonna give you a strike.
We're just gonna give you a strike. There'll be an
X on that one. How about the wild? All right?
Show me the Minnesota Wild. Minnesota Wild. Over to Chris Perfets.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
After this one, here'll be monsters, Seattle kracking, show me
the kracking.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
All right, Shay, one answer left? Can you do it?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Team?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Oh? Oh, show me the Colorado Avalanche nowhere. I think
the inspiration on that topic that uh was a good one.
It was uh sal capaccio right from uh covering the
Buffalo bills.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
From buff Yeah, Buffalo, Yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Covers the bills. Yeah. I gave the eleven and hey,
I like it because it allowed me a lot less work.
So that was of.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Spot bonus for you. Ilo at Damn buyer out Fox
found me over at Swollen Dow I'm coming up next.
We turned back to the NBA Fantastic Playoff action later
on today, Green Eggs walcome in an hour two of
the program. A beautiful Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio
here in southern California, where it was already eighty two
degrees on my dashboard.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
It's it's cooking.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
As I came from Chicago, where I was walking through
a bunch of wind tunnels and making sure I still
had feeling in my extremities. At the end, I got soft, Dan,
I got soft. I left uh Chicago years ago in
pursuit of the dream and whatever else and all the
highways and byways, and then I go home now and
the blood's thinned out to where everything's cold.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I mean, I get it. I could completely understand.
You also had a whirlwind of a travel experience, and
so of here, there and everywhere, of doing your show,
going to the sports media conference that you went to,
and then hopping on a bird and flying back here
and then waiting up early and coming in. So you

(41:02):
deserve a little rest on this mother.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Job jacked up. It's a beautiful mother's day wherever you're celebrating. However,
you're celebrating, make sure to give a nod to the
mom in your life, Mom, Grandma, auntie, whoever helps to
fill you know some of those roles and define it
as you will. But one of the things that you know,
I got the earworm in for you early on and
it started to affect your speech patterns. Dan was this

(41:26):
classic from nineteen eighty four by a young, upstart recording
artist named Lawrence Tarot, known by a street name.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Of mister T.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
And it goes on lyricist here was the same guy
that wrote the track be Somebody or Be Somebody's Fool.
I can remember mister T the A team and obviously
Rocky three and into wrestling and all of those things.
But a massive run for him, and yes, a recording

(41:57):
contract mixed therein. My brother's sent me that and to
become an annual tradition to celebrate mister tea.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Oh that's great. I wish we could play more, but
that we'd be at the oh mister T money, so
we had to cut it off when we did. But
a great way to honor moms. I know my mom's
listening today, so I want to say specifically Happy Mother's
Day to her. It is a it is a big
day on Seinfeld. We heard the mother of all holidays
and the greeting card business is Mother's Day. So I

(42:26):
hope people get a chance and if their moms aren't
around anymore, they can remember their mothers and honor those
moms that are around them. I don't because it can
get emotional for some that sure that may not have.
You know, my wife, I wish her a happy Mother's Day.
Her mom, my mother in law, is no longer with us,
so we'll take a little bit time today to remember
her as well. But a chance to enter, you know,

(42:48):
to honor all of our moms out there. My mom
was the best, never missed a sporting event even though
I was you know, we weren't good, we weren't winning games,
and I wasn't going anywhere. She was always there.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So appreciate her positivity. No question. The other day anniversary
that we could celebrate, you know, to take it to
the Shirley foolhardy. This was the day that ray Liota
was seeing helicopters making gravy and running around in Goodfellas,
so maybe it's an excuse to sit and watch good
Fellaws Later on, I don't know, whatever the case may be.
We got baseball going, We've got the Mets in the Cubs.

(43:21):
We've got Arsenal and Liverpool two two with about fifteen
minutes left in regulation. So much going on in our
sporting universe. And we get the NBA playoffs resume a
little bit later on today, we get Game four OKC
and Denver, Denver up to one in spite of a
horrid shooting game from Nicola Jokic last time out. And

(43:43):
then Cleveland and Indiana. No, I did not say Indianapolis,
I'm gonna pat myself on the back, because that's normally
what I do. The Pacers up two games to one
in that one, Cleveland trying to get healthy. That's one
of the first I guess jumping off points for these playoffs.
Dan Is, you know Cleveland had a couple of players,
miss guys Hunter and obviously Garland with the toe injury,

(44:03):
to where you've had a little bit there. You watched
Steph Curry with this injury, monitoring how long he's going
to be out for the Warriors. And we'll get to
the Timberwolf side of it in a second. But thus far,
knock Wood, we've had pretty good health through these first
two rounds of the playoff. We did the parody conversation

(44:24):
last hour for those that missed at Shale, get the
podcast up as we finish up this show. But you
know the fact that we're getting all these stars out
night after night is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, this this Steph Curry injury is a tough one,
but there is there. There is a little bit of
help there. And in the news that we got is
something that I said a couple of days ago that
I think what Golden State needs to do outside of
the Damian Lillard injury Isaac Bucks fan that was that
was a crusher. But you saw what happens when Cleveland

(44:57):
just gets back to full strength. And that's what that's
is so intriguing about these playoffs. And we touched a
bit off the top and saying there is an unknown
to it. But if you're the Cavaliers, you know, I'm
gonna take it from the Pacers side of things. I'll
do it that way. If you're the Indiana Pacers, you
go to Cleveland, you win two games that maybe it

(45:22):
shouldn't have won, you end up stealing, especially the game two,
you end up getting a victory there and the Cavaliers
are shorthanded. They blow that huge lead, something we talked
about earlier as well. But you go into Game three
and you're like, Okay, are we a better team? And Mike,
I think compared to the Celtics and Knicks series, and

(45:43):
maybe it's because people weren't familiar with Indiana are familiar
with Cleveland in that facet that more people and they
were familiar with Boston because Boston's the defending NBA champions.
But I think more people are giving Boston the credit
and opportunity if they can go win Game three in
New York and turn this thing around. I don't think
anybody was doing that with Cleveland. And the reason I

(46:04):
want to take it from the Pacers perspective is this
mic is I don't even know if they're good, Like
I'm not sure if Indiana is a good team or not.
We know that Tyre's Halliburton has been magnificent. Rick Carlisle
is one heck of a coach. Pascal Siakam has got
an NBA title under his belt, almost playing the robin

(46:24):
role to Kawhi Leonard in that in that Toronto run.
Miles Turner has been a piece that a lot of
people have wanted to get their hands on for years,
and he just continues to remain a Pacer. Aaron Ne
Smith has hit big shots, Andrew Nemhart's hit big shots
as well. For the Pacers, TJ McConnell is is is
a pit bull. I mean, there's they have players, but

(46:48):
in terms of like their team, Mike, I'm like, how
do teams not beat them? Right? And and so so
it's it's crazy because I can I can look at
the Cavaliers and be like, well, yeah, obviously you see
why the Cavaliers are having such success. You can look
at Oklahoma City and see their depth and SGA in
the whole deal with the Pacers, like, I'm like, I

(47:08):
don't know if they're good or not, but they're two
to one up in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
Good.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
You know, they were able to take care of of
my Bucks, as they said, without without Damian Lillard, but
in coming back and fighting back against them. It's so
it's so intriguing to look at them because Tyre's Halliburton
has been so clutch and he's been so quick. But again, Mike,
this is on the heels of an anonymous player poll

(47:34):
who the most overrated player in the league was, and
Tyrese Haliburton got fourteen percent of the vote. So when
we're looking at specifically the Eastern Conference playoffs, I think
we all can see whether the Knicks would be good,
while the Celtics would be good, and while the Caps
would be good. But I am miffed by the Pacers
and here they are up to one of the SEO.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, we get into game time management. I mean maybe
this is where Carlisle gets a little bit of love
in that regard, right, Yeah, the moment's not too big,
Russ WIMPs now. And what's funny is you go back
in we had one of those great two minute reports
that the Nie Smith put back dunk shouldn't have counted.
So we always have those little asterisks that get thrown in.

(48:12):
You get a good apology whatever. But for the Pacers,
maybe it's just that, right, you've got a tight rotation
of seven guys and a coach that in big moments,
your team's not throwing up on itself, not being able
to get a ball in bounds, not dribbling off their leg,
not losing a defensive rotation.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
They and they aren't going to stop you, so if
you play with that, they want to score. But that's
the funny thing in those defensive situations is that they've
gotten key defensive plays when they're not really a defensive team,
which is another reason maybe why I'm not necessarily buying in.
I don't know who is great in that scenario, but

(48:54):
the Pacers, you know, are a team that I think
much more, much more of a strength offensively than going
in and locking down a team over the final minute.
Yet here they are forcing turnovers and wreaking havoc and
pulling out these games that they had no business of doing.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
So now let's circle back to last night. Right you
talk about the Warriors missing Steph Curry. They get a
great game from Jimmy Butler. He goes for thirty three,
but a guy who's been much maligned through his NBA career,
partially because he was a member of the Knicks, which
means everything is going to be magnified Lakers before that,
going back to his draft status, Julius Randall has a

(49:27):
triple double. But he's the nice robin to Anthony Edwards,
who really is an interesting character in this NBA telenovela
as we go through right now, as a lead man
and a guy that people keep trying to thrust the
face of the league. He's had a couple of no shows,
had a scary all right, is he going to be hurt? No,

(49:48):
he comes back out of the locker room and he
plays and then has a huge Game three. But a
guy that for the national narrative, one of those trying
to put the mantle face of the NBA put that
title on a guy from Minnesota and thus far averaging
about twenty seven points a game in these playoffs and

(50:10):
has the pension for the spectacular. Right again, another guy
who embraces the spotlight, win, loser, draw, right. He wants
the ball in his hands, which you can't say that
for a lot of these superstars of the NBA.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
No, and heck and a lot of the guys in
the NBA who wants to score on the block and
down low? Right now, it's just a three point fest. Yeah,
I mean Rudy Gobert, for as great as he's been
in the playoffs, he's not the guy that you run
your offense through. So when he's getting twenty seven points,
he's doing it on alley oops and dunks and putbacks.

(50:43):
Nas Reed is seven feet and he's out there chucking.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Threes, hanging around the end.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah yeah, and so like it gives them an opportunity.
And honestly, where Golden State is, we know that they
are at their weakest is inside and when Steph Curry
is avail available, and obviously lineups change a little bit,
but yeah, like you can, you could get Golden State
inside and and that's why I think the Timberwolves ended

(51:10):
up in the first half yesterday in not really separating
themselves from Golden State, and they needed to do it
at the end. But in the first half Golden State
went into the locker room with the lead. Warriors didn't
hit a field good, didn't hit a three point field
goal in the first half, and so so well, Minnesota's
out there, you know, shooting threes. But if you have
that inside presence and Randall is clearly the two. Even

(51:34):
if nas Reed has a great game or Rudy Gobert
has his great game, Julius Randall is the two. Is
the robin to to Anthony Edwards. And if you get
both of those guys on an inside out scenario, look
out like Minnesota. I mean they they're better than the Warriors.
They and they're got They should win this series, no doubt.

(51:56):
The only thing that can save Golden State because I
don't think I mean Conesota loses Game four. I think
the game that Golden State needed to win was last night.
Then the question is do they rush stuff back for
Game five or not. But it's there for Minnesota. When
you look at the other side of the bracket two
and you see Oklahoma City struggling in the two games
to put away the Nuggets and Denver's up to one.

(52:18):
I wouldn't be afraid of the Nuggets if I had
to play I want to be afraid of Oklahoma City
if I had to play them, I'd much rather be Minnesota,
I think in those scenarios. So it's there for the
Timberwolves to make it to the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Looks like it's there for a long series. On the
other side, so beating the hell out of each other. Now,
obviously you had that laugher forty three point win by
Okase that took away some of those stressful minutes and
Nikola Jokicic just falling out said forget it, I'm done
with this game, which was one of the more comical
things ever. Right officiated pretty hard early on, not drawing

(52:50):
the file. So not often do you have a lot
of complaining in a forty three point burial about foul calls.
But certainly it's set the tone in tenor early on,
or so the Nuggets seem to think. And then Jokic
was finally done with it by the end of the
third and tapped out.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Well, that's the interesting thing. Who who do you think
has played better in that Oklahoma City Denver series?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Denver?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yeah, and then you say Oklahoma City beating by forty
in game two. Yeah, Oklahoma City had a lead in
game one that they probably should have put them away,
lost in overtime in game three. But I think that
if you would have said Oklahoma City, I would have
just done it in reverse order. I would have said,
gave it away in game one, you know, stunk it
up in overtimeing game they score two points in over, Yeah,

(53:41):
like you know, but you have an opportunity to win
that game. They've had opportunities to win all three of
the games that haven't done and have only come away
with one win because they they won by forty that's
a mix like Oklahoma City. I thought that they would
be better in this situation because I'm not a full
believer in Denver. I don't think Denver is as great

(54:02):
as people think that the Nuggets are. I think Jokic
is great, and Aaron Gordon has been great with the
three near the end in Game three of regulation with
what about twenty five seconds left to tie at the putback,
He's been there, He's made big shots the three in
Game one to put him up, like Gordon's been great.
Jamal Murray is a great player. But I just for
some reason, I'm just I'm not a believer in Denver,

(54:25):
and they have an opportunity to prove me wrong. But
I can't believe Oklahoma City is down to one in
the series.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Then you have m Michael Porter Junior finally has himself
a game. Sure, we'd been invisible and you can see
the frustration mounting. The thing I've I like about Denver
and it's something Smith and I have talked about on
our show at night seven to eleven Pacific. Check us
out there Dan during the day with with Doug gott
Leaven with Cavino and Rich Here. I'm there as well
is the idea for Denver when everybody got it handwringing

(54:53):
when they fired Michael Malone.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
We took it.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Two relationships and the rest of the world. If you're
done with something, you're done right. If every day you
walk into your workplace and all it is is everything
wrong with the workplace and you hate to be there,
at some point you got to look in the mirror
and just say, Okay, it's time to go find something else.
But if you're in a relationship where when you start
talking to people, all you're doing is negative, negative, negative, negative,

(55:17):
it's probably not the relationship for you. It's probably not healthy. Likewise,
if you're coaching, I mean, Michael Malone was going to
the podium and talking about how he couldn't get guys
to watch film whatever. He showed where they were at
in their relationship and where that team was. So why
would you ride that out necessarily even through the playoffs
and give that up. So jokis being demonstrative on the

(55:37):
sideline and them having some success, like I'm not gonna
give it all to Adaman whatever, but there's part of
me that just wants toy. They had the guts to
fire a guy that everybody loved and say, you know what,
we're better, you know, additioned by subtraction. Let's go forward
with a and see how far we can make this
thing run.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
What do you have to lose? I guess is there
thinking in the two things that I that I like
that I look back and like about the move was
the reports were that Calvin Booth, the GM at the time,
and Michael Malone, the head coach, were not seeing eye
to eye and there was friction.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Right the Russell Westbrook rotation and things like that.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, so instead of siding with one side or the
other by saying Michael Malone, you're gone, Cavin Booth, you're gone,
they're like both you see you later. Like there's there's
something to that to be like, we want this whole situation.
We don't want anything lingering from maybe this person feeling
that their guy stayed and this they just cleaned out.

(56:35):
They said that we're done, and there's there's something admirable
about that. But it also put the as you said,
it put the onus on Nikolajokicic, and it put the
onus on Russell Westbrook as well as a veteran. There
was a point in that Game three, and we've seen
it throughout the playoffs, but in that game three where
the coaches are out huddling away and Russell Westbrook is

(56:56):
talking and motivating as players, and everybody is feeding off
off of that. So there is an added responsibility to
Jokic and Russell Westbrook where if you don't get it done,
it's not on your shoulders. It's not on Michael Malone's,
it's not on Kelvin Booth's, it's not on the Kronkey family.
It's on your shoulders. If you don't get it done done.
That adds extra responsibility, and in a way it's it's

(57:19):
made a genius move. I've seen some people say that,
see the Nuggets were fine, you didn't need to fire
Michael Malone. I don't believe that's the case. No, I
think they don't believe that at all. I agree with
what you guys are saying to clear it out and
to be able to completely remove any of the tension
there and put the pressure on the on the players who,
by the way, seemingly can handle it. Jokic and Westbrook.

(57:43):
Good for them.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, I always wondered behind the scenes if the Kronkeys
looked at each other, going, you know, Yokich is that
guy that if this goes badly, you could just go
go ride in a sulky and just never come back. Sure,
it's always always an angle with him at Dan Byron
Fox where you find Dan, find me over at Swollendome Up.
Next we take our turn. Wednesday is schedule release day.
We're gonna make some bold proclamations and predictions based on

(58:08):
would be matchups for this twenty twenty five campaign. Let's
do it next here on Fox. Hey, welcome back in
It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside
Dan Bayer having a blast with you here. Thanks for
being with us, giving us a few minutes of your
day as we roll through all this beautiful Mother's day
get out and about enjoy the sunshine. You got a
chance to do some great things, so take advantage of

(58:29):
it as you were. One thing that we will most
definitely get a lot of mileage out out of and
the spreadsheets will start popping in earnest is later on
this week the NFL schedule release.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Now we know the opponents, right, We've had those grids
for a month, but now it becomes the greatness of travel,
separating out. My brother has already sent me multiple notes
like figure out when the Raiders and the Ravens games
are for the Bears, right, two road games, two opportunities,
And I know across this country there are a lot
of people doing the same things like, well, we know

(59:02):
we're gonna get a trip out to La not week one.
Get to that in a second.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Uh, but we.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Know those trips are on the books. But we get
into the travel, we get into the what if isms
and sequencing that helps straight The schedule is a nebulous
number until we start putting things in sequence to see
how teams have to play.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Now, yeah, in fact, you probably you will know the
opponents for teams, most of them for next year already.
So a lot of this has been in place for
a long time. But once the endings from the previous
season are finalized, you figure out what first place teams
you're playing from other divisions, if you're in the first,
if you're in first place in your division, and so on.
So we know the opponents, we just don't know the order.

(59:44):
But we're gonna start to find out over these next
couple of days before the full release on Wednesday on
what some marquee games are going to be. We're gonna
find out who the season opening kickoff matchup is. Fox
will announce who their first primetime game that they're going
to have. We're going to find out Monday and Tuesday
schedule leaks International games will be released at that point.

(01:00:08):
Something to look at. I think when fans get the schedule,
they look at a couple of things. Number One, they
look at when their team's bye week is, so if
they have to do fall travel or do something in
the fall, they'll schedule it during their NFL teams by.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Week those pesky fall weddings, Yes week.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Absolutely absolutely, but it is an interesting week. And it's
also what I think Mike is the final, the final
event before we get a true break from football, because
we really haven't since the Super Bowl. After the Super Bowl,
players are being released, players are maybe signing contracts before

(01:00:44):
the league new league year starts, Combine takes place, then
it's free agency, then we're into the draft, and now
that the draft is done, we're waiting on the schedule.
But once the schedule ends, then we can kind of
exhale and we move away from the NFL for a while.
But what I thought would be fun is to rekindle
something that we do on this we've done on this
program before, and that's trying to make some predictions for

(01:01:06):
some of the games that we've got coming up, marquee
games that I think that we can narrow down on
who is going to be playing where. So we're going
to try to do that as a crew here on
Fox Sports Sunday. So go ahead, strike up the band
Isaac Looh and cron producer Shake, Chris Profettor along with
Mike Harmon and myself and trying to determine four games.

(01:01:28):
These are the four matchups that we're going to put.
Are you know what's on the line. We want to
know who you think the Eagles will face in the
kickoff special on the Thursday of Week one. We want
to know number two, who the Lions will host on
Thanksgiving Day, and number three who the Cowboys will host

(01:01:49):
on Thanksgiving Day. And then finally the one that's all
over the map. Pick your week one Monday Night Football matchup.
Monday Night football matchup, not Sunday, but the Monday Night
football matchup. Mike Harmon, let's start with the Eagles and
that kickoff game will give you the honor for this
one for the first pick. Who do you think the

(01:02:11):
Eagles play on opening nights of the twenty twenty five
NFL season.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I think we're gonna like I've got a common team
that pops up a lot because they've become a darling.
But I'm gonna go a little off the great. I'm
gonna take the Rams, the raid expectations, and Matthew Stafford
coming back for what might be the last Hurrah. Question
mark all of that to say, hype around that squad
just that closed. Why not get a rematch from that
snow game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Oh that's amazing because we have seen playoff rematches before.
Chris Purfett over to you Eagles home opponent for the
kickoff game to kick off the NFL season, as they're
the defending Super Bowl champions. I like where Mike's going.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
There is usually a lot of playoff repeats, sometimes even
a Super Bowl rematch. Sometimes in these kickoffs, I'm gonna
go a little bit different. Is playoff related, but I
feel like it's the playoff matchup that kind of got
away from the NFL. And I know I'm biased on this,
but I'm gonna go with the Detroit Lions Lions Eagles.
Feels like that was an NFC championship that was almost

(01:03:15):
completely penciled in until the Commanders really tore that down
to the studs. But I think that'll be as if
the Lions haven't had enough of tough schedule for this
upcoming calendar as it is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Sure start out in Philadelphia. Shay, you got to pick
for who the Eagles a face on opening Night.

Speaker 7 (01:03:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna go a little different from what Harmon
and Chris said here. I think I'm gonna do Eagles Commanders.
I feel like that'd be a great matchup, big stars,
big names everywhere, and it will turn into a great game.
Hopefully no Tush push in this game, but we'll see.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
What Are you happy with that, Mike, Because I know
we were talking during the break about divisional games and
these kind of really big spots.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
That's that's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It's generally not my favorite, like when we get we
thrust that out and Dan it alluded to the International Games.
The fact that we're finding out that the Chargers are
going to lose a home game to play the Chiefs
in Brazil, to me is just foolhardy and just wrong
headed in an approach to this. I know you want
to go sell the Chiefs and everything else, but giving
that game away likewise, you know, doing a divisional game

(01:04:14):
here right off the jump, because that, look, the Commanders
were the other team I alluded to before I went Rams. Right,
He's like, we're going to get an awful lot of
Commanders shoved down our throats this year after the feel
good story that was twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I have got a stat that I'll give you after
Isaac's pick and my pick that I think could sway
us if the NFL does go a certain way. Isaac,
you want to throw your hat in on who the
Eagles will face in the home opener.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
I agree with Harmon. I say it's going to be
the Rams because that was the toughest game that Philadelphia
had in the postseason last year on their way to
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I'm going to go with Profet and the Lions. I
think we didn't see the matchup, so it will be new.
I still think that there's pizazz to it, so I'm
going to go with the Lions. Here's here's the thing,
and this is not to go against Shay's but it
may go to Shay's point. We've only seen in the
kickoff game three times a divisional opponent or a divisional matchup.

(01:05:13):
To start this season. It was Packers Bears in twenty
nineteen because one hundredth anniversary of you know, they were
celebrating one hundred years in the NFL. The other two
times were in the NFC East. So we have seen
matchups with the Giants and Cowboys in twenty twelve, and
then the Giants in then Washington Redskins in two thousand
and eight. Those were the only two times where he

(01:05:34):
had a divisional game, but they were both in the
NFC East. I think we'll find out tomorrow who the
opening kickoff game is. All Right, Lions Thanksgiving Day, I'm
gonna give Perfet the honor here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yes, I defer Chris on this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
We're gonna have first bites of this Thanksgiving Day turkey that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
Happens to be the name of our preview podcast too.
Usually this has become a divisional game on Thanksgiving. It's
been a lot of Packers Bears. I think a few
years ago the Vikings. Vikings feel like they're due up
for it, but I would really like to see getting
away from an NFC North Divisional game for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
I'd like the Lion. I think the Lions.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
I think the Steelers feel like a really you got
the Cowboys on here, which is really fascinating as an option.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Lions, Steelers.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
We haven't had a cross conference Lions Thanksgiving in a
really long time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I believe. And not to change anybody else's guests, the
Cowboys are gonna be hosting their own Thanksgiving Jay, so
they're not gonna be in Detroit on Thanksgiving Day. They're
gonna be hosting their own which is our next question.
All right, Harmon, you want to go next? Give you
the honors?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Yeah? I like Chris's logic here because they had the
nod in the wink that Aaron Rodgers just showing up
for Pittsburgh right right, because then it takes out a
whole other level. But I'll take it to the tradition.
I'll take a Detroit and Green Bay. Okay, Thanksgiving Day games.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Shay, who do you like the Lions facing on?

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with Harmon there. I think
it's gonna be Lions versus the Packers. I think that's
something that people want. We'll see it'd be two years
in a row. Interest, No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
It wasn't a Thanksgiving against the Bear because.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Which is why I vaulted, like because the Bears give
it all the love fest that we've got for them
across the media.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Packers Packers played somewhere else on Thanksgiving because I know
that was like a thing where it's like the Lions and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
They played home against the Dolphins.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
That's what it was, because they went straight to another
Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Game between them. Yes, all right, Isaac Longcron your Lions
opponent pick.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
I once again agree with Harmon. I'm going Packers, all right,
I'm gonna go go into hell.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Isaac's agreeing with me multiple times here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I'm not gonna I like Chris's point of the Steelers.
You could also have a rematch of the Jerome Bettis
coin flip game. Ooh, nice that you had from years back.
I'm gonna take the Vikings on this one, all right,
An NFC North good enough. We've saw great matchups with them.
I don't think they're gonna end the season. Remember they
ended the season against each other. So I don't think

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they're going to do that two years in a row.
So give me the Vikings on Thanksgiving Day. All right,
let's go to the Cowboys Thanksgiving, the annually the highest
rated TV game for an NFL regular season that you
will see as the Cowboys home on Thanksgiving. I'm gonna
start out. I'm gonna take first DIBs on this. I

(01:08:19):
think you have the Chargers coming to town.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
I think it's such a such a it's a marquee matchup.
You get some flash Harbaugh against the Cowboys. Give me
the Chargers, Isaac. Sorry, you're gonna be working on Thanksgiving Day.
The Chargers is my Cowboys opponent.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
That's sneaky and I like it. But I'll take the
chalk at the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yes, what a showdown that will be if it is
an NFC East matchup.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Chris Purfett, I was gonna ask because I'm trying to
rack my brain remembering how many NFC East matchups we've
had for the Cowboys Thanksgiving game. I'm trying to remember
off the top of my head, and I cannot have
too many that come to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I thought, gosh, you know the Giants have been there
as of late, and we know the Raiders have been
sprinkled in by the way. It's also been different since
we've kind of moved away from the conference affiliations with
the networks right where it would have to be one
AFC team would be playing either the Lions or the Cowboys.
We've moved away from that in recent years, so you've

(01:09:22):
kind of had a heavy NFL or excuse me, a
heavy NFC slate when talking about these matchups. You've had Packers, Lions,
and Giants Cowboys playing against each other, so we've seen
that before.

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
I see that and like as enticing as I think
Cowboys Packers and another Thanksgiving Day for I mean a
Thanksgiving Day for Green Bay would be what about that?
Trend will go AFC, We'll go Cowboys Chiefs as you're thinking.
Chiefs have said they like the holidays, and I think
they'll be a big one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
They wanted the Christmas Day game. All right, Shay, you're
pick for the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
I'm agreeam with Harmon here. They're gonna shove the Commanders
down our throats and that's definitely a game that they're
gonna want. I think, so, I think it will. I
wanted to say Eagles, but I feel like it would
be a waste to do that, correct because it would
just you know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
There's such a Week fourteen game.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
Yeah, exactly, right, exactly, and that's gonna get good views
no matter what. And so in the Thanksgiving game, when
you're already gonna get good viewership, I think they're gonna
throw the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
So the Cowboys getting a game face the Raiders in
twenty twenty one, Giants in twenty twenty two, Commanders in
twenty twenty three, and the Giants again last season. All right, Isaac,
your last pick Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
I completely agree with you, Buyer. I'm making my plans
for a Chargers Cowboys Thanksgiving. Ironically, they met in Arlington
Thanksgiving picking up twenty seventeen, and the Chargers destroyed the
Cowboys twenty eight to six. Philip Rivers threw for four
hundred and thirty four yards that day, completing twenty seven
of thirty three passes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
All right, Isaac, We're just gonna stick with you and
we'll reverse it back. Week one. Your Monday night game.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
Matchup road team to Houston Texans home team, the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Oh that would be spicy. That would be good. I
get Shay you got a Monday night pick for the
opener on Week one.

Speaker 7 (01:11:11):
I got Cowboys at Raiders in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Nice pick. I think that would draw a lot of eyeballs.

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
Patty Carroll's debut, yep, I might be picking one that
might be Sunday Night Football, but I could see a
lot of big matchups there, and I think the NFL's
is going to come out. Haymaker, haymaker, Haymaker. I'm gonna
take Ravens and Bills in Buffalo. I like the final
season of high Mark Stadium. But a way to do it.

(01:11:40):
Mike Harmon your Monday Night Week one matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Bears at Ravens some Ravens love. I had Ravens written
down initially and I changed it. Bears Ravens would be good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Benjamon, you did too much Commanders though, so I can't
do any.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
More of that. How about this last year Aaron Rodgers.
It was the return because they crapped out two years
against the Bills, so against the Niners. How about Sam
Darnold against his former team Vikings Seahawks Monday Night Football.
They did it with Russell Wilson and returning where they
did to Seattle could be a different spin on it.

(01:12:15):
Vikings Seahawks. How about to open the season?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
I love it all right, get it down right, a
good and then someone will win something. I don't know why.
At Dan Firo on Fox where you find Dan, find
me over at Swollen Dome. Time to turn over to
the news desk can back Get back to our guy,
Isaac Low and crowd for an update of what's going
on at our sporting universe.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
The answer is a lot. Starting with today's NBA Playoff
Action tipic off at three point thirty Eastern with Game
four from the Mile High City and Denver holding a
two games to one lead over the Oklahoma City Thunder.
In Game three on Saturday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves what
at Golden State on two to ninety seven for a
two games to one lead. Anthony Edwards scored thirty six.

(01:12:53):
Julius Randall had a triple double. In Major League Baseball.
Right now, the Mets and Cubs are tied at one
at the top of the six. Mets got on the
board in an RBI triple by Luis Torreenz. Cubs tied
it on a home run though by Pete Crow Armstrong,
his tenth home run of the season. The Cardinals, on
a home run by Lars Newt Bar his sixth home

(01:13:13):
run of the season, have a one nothing lead at
Washington at the top of the first inning. Ironically, I
was hungry once and I had a Lars Newt Bar
in my appetite was staved off a little longer. Today's
Stanley Cup playoff action faces off at four point thirty
Eastern from Dallas with Game three and the Stars in
Winnipeg Jets tied at one win apiece. Thrilling finish on
Saturday night as the Vegas Golden Knights want at Edmonton

(01:13:36):
four to three. Riley Smith the game winning goal with
zero point four to play in the third period of
Edmonton still leaves the series two games to one. Finally,
one other hockey note, with this being Mother's Day, Gritty,
the irrepressible mascot of the Philadelphia Flyers, posted the following
today on social media. Quote, tell your mom, I said,

(01:13:59):
thank you, thank you for everything. She'll know what that means.
Oh boy, easy there, Gritty, take it easy there, Bud
back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Wow, Gritty getting after it at Isaac Lowencron if you
want to try to decode that and give him some messages. Yeah,
I just polluted his timeline at Dan Yer on Fox
where you find Dan, find me over at Swollen Dome.
Find Chris at Chris Purfett. Check out what he's doing
with the product Detroit stuff as well. As we continue on,
we've got an NFL trade and some predictions for the

(01:14:31):
NBA games later on today. So much going on. We'll
do it here next on Fox Sports Radio, Greedy is
and welcome back in final a couple of minutes for
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we get ready for more playoff action to NBA playoff
games today. So we've got action on the pitch, baseball games,

(01:14:54):
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(01:15:15):
We've got a veritable Pope Mari. In terms of what
we laid out of potential topics for today, there are
thirty five stories. Right, there's lots of like little things.
It's like, oh, you just want to have that moment. Now,
let's do a quick week in review. I was in
Chicago as a new pope is installed in certainly some
communication and rumors that he was a cub fan, and

(01:15:37):
we had a text message text chain going through family
and my cousin goes, yeah, he's a trader of Southsider
blah blah blah like my dad. And then that was
later debunked and he is a Sox fan, and here's
images of him at the two thousand and five World Series.
By all of that, it made for a very strange
forty eight hours. I got a picture with some guy

(01:15:58):
dressed like the Pope on Friday night. I just thought
it was I will lean into the bit. But you
want to talk about merchandising and opportunity there in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
It's everywhere I was. My TikTok feed is still full
of Pope stuff. My main takeaway and It took me
days to realize this, and I'm going to bring it
back to sports, not through baseball, but the conversation. I
think a lot of us enjoyed the spectacle of what
we saw on Thursday, the drama and then it hits

(01:16:29):
home when you find out that the pope is now
a Chicago native and what was discussed a bit. I
know Cavino and Rich did it on Thursday and talked
about the spectacle of just the situation with the crowd,
the drama, the building, the announcement. It was a great show,
and you and I have talked about Lebron's decision and

(01:16:50):
how that TV show I think should be every free
agent scenario because there was drama to it. But what
I didn't recognize until yesterday until really thinking of what
was also great about it, zero leaks. It did not
leak out of the Vatican on who was going to

(01:17:10):
be pope, So there was drama with it all until
we got to the announcement and fresh off the NFL
Draft and coming up with the NBA draft, the old
tipping picks argument. Yeah right. The reason why it was
so great to see aside from the fan or the
spectators and everybody coming out on the balcony and the

(01:17:32):
curtains being moved, and the white smoke was because we
didn't know and we didn't know who it was going
to be, and there was so much drama because there
were no leaks. And that's what I think is my
biggest takeaway of how great it was, because in this
day and age, everything is leaked and we didn't know
what that was.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Go over with a giant changeover and the Cardinals the
last couple of years. Now you start going into the
math and the background. Fifty five to one shot if
you in limited betting, so a pretty good return for
you there for the Pope. Now Oklahoma and Texas, A
and M. This was just a little note because I
say why they're named SEC Softball co champions. After the

(01:18:13):
title game was canceled due to weather. We couldn't reschedule
it for another day, couldn't hold over one day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Isn't there a football facility where you could just throw
a diamond, throw some basses out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
There, feel like you could have gotten gotten that in so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
That at Athens, Georgia doesn't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
You can't do it all right, And then we got
George Pickens getting traded to the Cowboys. Mike Tomlin, as
you would expect, said, nah, I got nothing to add
to any of the conversation. Omar Kahn saying, good deal,
a lot of folks saying I wouldn't have touched this
guy whatever, Like it's part of the reason he was temperamental,
that the quarterbacks couldn't throw him a good football. It's
one thing Dak Prescott can do. We can have a

(01:18:50):
lot of complaints about Dak Prescott, but he might actually
be able to bring out the best. To George Pickens,
I say, if you're in go take your shot.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
I just can't believe this trade happened after the draft
and thinking about it now, thinking about it from both sides.
So if Pickens is a failure, the Cowboys are going
to still be paying for it next year. So it's
a debt that they owe. It's not gonna be off
their boats. And if you're the Steelers, what have you gained.
You've now just lost another weapon for Aaron Rodgers or
Mason Rudolph and then you have to wait around for
it to sure sounds It seems like a move for

(01:19:19):
the future, but the timing of it to me was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Well, they say that Alan Lazard might show up in Pittsburgh, Anya,
that'll fit you. Okay, so even the series today?

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Yes, I like the thunder to win. Here you go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
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