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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, Come on in if
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Sunday morning, Action on the Pitch thirty one minutes in
and Scottie Scheffler looking to win his fifteenth PGA title.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What a what a jam packed Sunday that we've got
And for Scotty Scheffler, maybe more importantly, Mike Major number
three in his career and redemption off of a crazy
PGA championship last year in Louisville when he was in
a jail Friday morning prior to the second round. This
would be I don't know if it's a turnaround because
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without that incident last year, as tragic as it was,
Scotty Scheffler had a really good chance to win that
championship and he played great on that Friday, but I
think everything caught up to him on that Saturday where
he kind of puckered out, and in the end it
was Xander Schoffley and Bryson to Shamba going down the stretch.
Victor Hovelin was in the mix, and Mike yesterday we
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had Bryson to Shamba in the mix. John Rahm shoots
up the leader board. There are familiar names that you
saw in contention on Saturday until Scotty Scheffler said all right,
enough's enough. Five hunder par in his final five holes,
including two under on the toughest three hole stretch that
you're gonna see in a lot of places in golf,
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and it's just Scotty Scheffler's world in terms of golf
right now. Rory had been the story because of the
Masters and because of completing the career Grand Slam, and
maybe we forget a little bit about Scotty Scheffler, but
he is just on another level.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And I don't want.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To say that today is just a coronation, but I
would be shocked if he doesn't win, even just with
a three shot lead, because he's just playing at a
different level than anybody else's.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Three shot lead. As we get the round started, they're
they're on the course now he'll tee off near to
three pm Eastern time, so you know, noontime Momsta time
here in the on the West coast. As we look
through it, but you know, you go back even the
last five years, you can actually find a Phil Mickelson
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win in that time. But to the point, I mean
a year ago, you know, we're on air over the
weekend talking about the chaos and the stop and the
arrest and all of that and what's right, what's wrong,
and trying to figure out and parse through the data. Right,
you had you know, reporters who happened to be coming
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to the course at the same time, so maybe you
got a little more fleshed out in terms of what
went down than you would have otherwise. But one that's
already a year So take advantage of every day you
got people, because that was a year ago. That does
not seem like a year ago, at least to me.
Like that that's how it flies fast, right, and it
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flies and as you go an extra trip or two
around the sun, it seems to go a little bit faster.
I speak from personal experience that I believe that is true,
and maybe it's just perception and knowing that what's in
the great beyond. But for Scheffler, I mean, he didn't
join the tour until twenty eighteen. So like that's why
I bring up the fifteenth, right, the majors, and we
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keep count on those as you stack those chips, then
we get you into the grandiose discussion, which is why
and I think for when you look at McElroy, it's
always been the wanting to drag him into that next level.
So when you get the career slam, it becomes that
white hot thing in the moment, and we we focus
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on majors, right, and that's just what we do. Right.
A lot of people don't pay attention to the NBA
until we get to the playoffs, and even then it's
not maybe un till the conference finals and other sports
the same kind of thing. And for golf, Scheffler went
and just had a monster season, yes, right, just winning consistently,
placing consistently to where now he's that guy that every
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tournaments like, all right, what are our odds? What are
we looking at the fact that ram is starting the
day at six under. So, I mean, it's still a
five stroke quote cushion. But as as you are a
guy that you know, you follow this boy and I
and you certainly are on the links and around the game,
you know, the mental side of it, the physicals out
of it, and all of that. That five strokes that's
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two holes. Especially what we saw the beginning of this
this turn sand right, with some of the lies, some
of the rules and whatever was going on Thursday Friday,
a lot of fighting.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I would I would say with most players, even if this,
if this was Rory McElroy that and you're right, any
three shot I'll just put it that way, any three
shot lead is not safe in major championship contention or
in this situation, this PGA Championship specifically.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
But he's just been so good statistically.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Whether it be on the internet, whether you be watching
the Golf channel or you just be watching the broadcast
on ESPN and CBS today. The stats that they can
put compared to when Tiger was doing his things, like
Scheffler's numbers rival that in essence, now, I think Tiger
had twenty to one hundred times more the pressure on
him than Scotty Scheffler does at this point. It's flis
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kind of slowed down demeanor, like conservative. He's just kind
of laid back. Everything is is whatever. That also makes
me think that, yeah, he just he doesn't get rattled.
And he seemed when he birdied seventeen yesterday and birdied
eighteen to and there was a little bit of emotion.
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I didn't mention Bryson to Shambo, and in that conversation
even Bryson had his hiccups. He hasn't played particularly well
and the didn't play it well in the fine round
of the Masters and was up and down yesterday. But
Scotty just seems to be this and you can't see
it on radio, but it is just it's like flat.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's a flat line, the thing they used to talk
about with poker players.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
He can put him up to a heart monitor, great
hand no change. Yes, it's terrible hand no change, bad beat,
no change like steady as you go.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yes, can hit it a mile.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is one of the best ball strikers that you've got
in the game now has a hot putter. Yeah, that's
a recipe for success. And that's who Scotty Scheffler is.
It's just I don't see it happening, and it's not
meant for like a front runner thing. It's just of
who Scotty Scheffler is. If there was any other player,
if it was Bryson on top, I would say, okay, well,
maybe I have an opportunity. Bryson could maybe you know,
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blow up at this point maybe as iron play hasn't
been as sharp. But there's just nothing that Scotty Scheffler
has done that would make you think that there would
be anything different today. And again this would be major
number three. And Mike is what is unique about now
what we have in golf and going back in years
past was remember the PGA used to be in August.
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That change didn't happen until twenty nineteen. And now you
have momentum into the next two majors from this PGA.
So the US Open is less than a month away,
so Scotty wins this. Now you're playing your best golf
on heading into a championship course like Oakmont. Half the
field isn't even gonna have a chance at Oakmont, and
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Scotty being in this form, it could be a sign
of things to come. No matter how great Rory has been,
I think Rory's been spectacular. I've always said I think
Rory at the top of his game is better than anyone.
That may not be true anymore because of how good
Scotti Scheffler is playing.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Quail Hollow fourth round today. As we get things started here,
We've got that action on on the course. We'll keep
an eye on that. We got Arsenal and Newcastle on
the pitch overseas. I would be remiss if I didn't
at least give a nod a wink, because everybody has
had their brooks kept good day where things didn't quite
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go so long. So you find yourself at the mini mart.
Kepka missed the cut and was seen getting ready for
a big night with an eighteen pack.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So he also got heckled, of course, yes from a
fan that was caught on video. A fan made a
comment about the money like this is what happens when
you take the money. And Kepka then responded. Took him
like three seconds. I think he was like, do I
do this? Then the devil and the other shoulders and yes,
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say something. The other one is saying no, don't say anything,
don't say anything. And then finally he went with a
bad guy and said you want to come down here
and say that and had that exchange with a fan
and yeah, but you know, Brooks kept get injuries to
deal with, and that was the reason that he chose
to go to Live. And I'm not a fan of Live,
but everybody's got their reasons. I think maybe Brooks is
maybe a little bit more valid than others. But still
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he's not going to bite his tongue no matter how
much he tries.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, it's always one of those Live you know. And
you and I have talked about this a lot the
last couple of years. Someone puts that giant pile of
money in front of you, it's an awful difficult decision, Right,
we can say what we want from our you know,
third three hundred level perch. But all of a sudden,
someone says, here's the keys to the kingdom. You're playing
less golf, you're traveling the world. Yes, you're gonna take
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some incoming. But given the way most sponsorships and partnerships
are with the world, if you're doing your due diligence,
that devil off that shoulder in the deal somewhere. So
you have to decide how big he is I am.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I am not a fan like of livedolf, and you've
known that, and many people have known that your point
is correct. I can't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
He's dan Byer at dan byro on Fox find me
over at Swollen Dome. Let's get into fisticuffs of a
whole other, not business, and one that I thought was
grossly overblown. As it transpired yesterday, we get the dawning
of a new w NBA season, anticipation of what's to come, right,
the welcoming of Paige Becker's the Haley Van Lift, everybody
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coming in the next wave after Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese,
but let's call it what it is. Like we watched
the NFL schedule release, which we'll get to in about
ten minutes from now. The anticipation like, all right, you
know what you're doing. You got sky and fever. Yeah,
on a Saturday standalone fun and excitement, not much of
a game. The Fever absolutely in a retooled lineup with
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a new coach go and absolutely paced the Sky ninety
went thirty five point win. When it's all said and
done right an absolute beat down reminiscent of what we
watched the Knicks do on Friday Night to the Celtics.
But the play that everybody up in arms about one
fully intended was a play where Angel Reese pushes off
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to get a rebound right absolutely shoves Fever player under
the basket to get the ball, and then Caitlin Clark
goes down to get it, gets some arm and then,
to my estimation for sensing a moment frustrations of where
the game is, Angel Reese flopped. I don't think there
was as much contact as the way that body went flying.
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It was like a WWE flip.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't know if it was a flop, but I
will say this, I am with you in terms of
I felt Angel Reese has been waiting for that to happen.
It's like the person who wants someone to throw the
first punch so then they have the opportunity to go
after them and say what they wanted to say or say,
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do what they want to do, say what they want
to say to that person in that in that spot.
And I know that Angel Reese knew that it was
Caitlin Clark who committed that foul, and well, I didn't
think it was flagrant in that situation. If you've played
basketball before, you know what you have to do. I
think that Angel Reese wanted Caitlin Clark to do that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Here's the Kaitlin Clark response when being asked of it
being upgraded to a flagrant.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Walk me through your perspective on the flagrant found What
was the point you were trying to make to her?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
If you was a gonna take vow?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You know, if you either Angel get to white up
in two points or you know we sent him to
the free done nothing malicious about it.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
It's just a gonna take bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Every basketball player knows that walk.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Thank you, s Shane Chris making us sound pretty this morning, right.
And then the post game, asked about it, elaborated a
little bit more, probably gonna get a fine because it's
kind of around it, and then came back over the
top saying, well I don't think it rose. And then
Angel Reese had a three word basically, if officials got
it right, move on.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Aleah Boston got a technical for it, so did Angel Rees.
But I think Angel Rees wanted to have that reaction
towards Kitlin Clark, as it said. She's wanted maybe not
even four a year, maybe it's been two years or
three years, however long she has wanted Kitlin Clark to
do something that would give Angel Reese the ability to
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say what you've always wanted to say, keep it in
your back pocket. We've all had relationships like that that
are tenuous, and you know you want to say something
and you're waiting for the person just at whatever point
to finally say it so you can unleash it. And
that's what I think happened with Angel Reese yesterday. It
was a physical foul. I think Kitlin Clark knew what
she was doing. I wish Kitlin Clark wouldn't have walked away.
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I wish you would have stood up to Angel Rees.
I wish Eleah Boston would have gotten in Angel Reese's
face and not tried to separate the two. This last year,
it was no one sticking up for Caitlin Clark and
no one's got her back, and it was the rest
of the league against her. And I think we've made progress.
But I wish Kitlyn Clark wouldn't have turned around and
walked away, and I wish Eliah Bosta would have gotten
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an Angel Reese's face and done something to actually deserve
the technical foul. That's the point that this is at
right now, especially when your team's winning by you know,
thirty points, whatever the final score was yesterday. That's what
you That's where this rivalry now needs to be, especially
if the Fever are that much drastically better than the
Chicago Sky.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Ninety three p. Fifty eight was the final It got
into strange territory. Plus thirteen hundred, I believe was the
odds of a Caitlin Clark triple double. So congratulations if
you cashed on on day one of that one.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Fortuntly did.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, now to a large degree, wearing his full on
Fever uniform.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Onto the amazing game.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Hey, if you're going to do a bit, I always
say you got to lean into the bit. Dan here
on radio all the time, awesome, like they needed. Look
he's got detractors, he's got fans. I don't know where
I'm at and the grand continuum you take, you know,
a little bit from here, a little bit from there
or whatever in terms of uh overall, but showing up
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courtside wearing a fever union, Yeah, I'll take the win
as you go from that. But to the Ilia Boston,
she didn't even know she got teed up, yes, which
is kind of funny. Uh, to your point, Yeah, I
wish you know. But I think with some of the
Caitlin Clark there, it's like she knew she I mean,
it wasn't a soft hate touch fowl, which we've seen randomly,
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Like we'll go back to some of these NBA games,
like all right, you could beat the hell out of
each other for forty minutes, but then you get a
little bit of a touch fowl in the lake. It's like, okay,
why now? Why? Like and this is why people mistrust
a lot of these organizations, Like you let all this
go and then you're gonna call it the little all right,
a little bump or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And realistically, when you're in that situation and Caitlin Clark,
I don't think and she said it in her post
game presser as well, I don't think she's trying to
be demeaning to people. But when you're in that situation
and you're a guard and you have to commit a
foul on a forward or center, you are having to
be more physical because you have to make sure they
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don't get the shout off to have a three point play.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
But that's it. She's coming up strong from the base
because that's where, like when we get into flavoran files normally,
if they're chopping down on the arms torso area, that's
where I see. Okay, we can talk about that because
maybe you catch a glancing blow to the head or
neck or whatever. Here it's down at her lower waist
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where the contact really gets initiated so that it rose
to that level. I mean that little spin out move
that Reese did. Yeah, I mean sold it and it
builds and for the WNBA, it's the greatest thing in
the world. Yes, right, I mean, come on, let's let's
just get him in a cage. You know, money in
the bank coming up here in a couple of weeks
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here in southern California.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Everybody knew what they were doing in that situation. The
only person that I don't think knew what they were
doing was a Leah Boston again because she got teed up.
And I do think that if you, if you would
where to go back, she would probably try to stand
up for Caitlyn Clark instead of just trying to separate
the two.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I didn't think.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
She kind of gave Reese a shove, but then she
tried to separate, And in that point, Caitlin Clark knew
she was following Angel Rees. Angel Reese knew that she
was being followed by Caitlin Clark. She knew she had
a response. She had been waiting for it forever. I
just wish Kitlin Clark would have stood up to Angel
Reese in that moment, and then the story would have
taken quite an interesting turn.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And to be clear, for those that have watched Caitlin
Clark the last couple of years, she'll get after it, sure, right,
she's chippy, she's chirpy. Is she likes She's not a saint?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Your Angel Devil on the shoulder analogy from earlier Like right.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
She knows exactly what she's doing, and maybe that's why
she didn't because she knew that she would be playing
into Angel Reese's game if she ended up standing up
and something. So maybe in her mind just turning away
was better. But I think if we see other altercations
like that in the WNBA season this year, not involving
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Angel Reese, I think maybe you will see Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So maybe she did.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Maybe she did consciously know what was I know that
she knew it was Angel Reese. But turning away may
have been the reason to be like, all right, I'm
not going to give Angel Rees even more oxygen to
let this thing brew.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Well. In the super cut, a couple of teammates got
Clark off the ball a couple of times, four shivers
that didn't get called more fuel to what is a
little bit of a powder keg there, But it's good
for business, gets us gums flapping. Find me over at
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Action already moving all over the place. We got UFL
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got the EPL. So much going on as we get
ready for a big Sunday in the football universe. But
a lot of time spent and money spent, no doubt.
With the NFL's schedule release, we played a game last
week where we had to go through and try to
predict some of the big Benchmartin games of this NFL season.
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I booked a flight to Baltimore for a game at
the end of October. That was the game we had
sort of when is it gonna be wait for it,
and then early in the day that you'll love this.
Early in the day it starts leaking right a little
bit like Tuesday and the Wednesday. Wednesday morning, I get
a text from my little brother and he's already mapped
out the flights I should take from la for him
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to Baltimore. He goes, here, here's some cheap flights, do
the refundable. It'll be brilliant to make this happen. And
I'm like, all right, that's not confirmed yet.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Six hours later it was as they did their big
Pride time release, but it was just the idea of
all right, let's lock this in and get a family
trip together to Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Well that's good, and that's what you said. End of October.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
October, all right, maybe a Halloween sort of festivity.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Just before yes, right, so the weekend of the twenty fourth,
twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, at some point I don't know if our technical
producer Chris Purfet can find like some Horns announcement effect.
But for those for those that are just tuning in
last week, as Mike alluded to on the show, all
five of us made predictions on what we thought was
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going to be the opening night game, knowing that the
Eagles were hosting what we're going to be the Thanksgiving
Day games involving the Lions and Cowboys, and what the
Monday night game was. Now in hindsight, Mike, I should
have done Sunday night game, but Monday night happened to
be our topic of conversation, and thank goodness for me
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that it was Monday night. Otherwise I would have been atrocious.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Our results from our.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Schedule prediction in last place with a total of four
points when the lowest you could get was three because
we knew the Eagles, Cowboys and Lions were playing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The SAT equivalent of writing your name.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I finished in dead last with four points. There it was.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I had the Eagles correct, Lions correct, Cowboys correct. I
did say the Vikings would play on Monday Night Football,
so I got that correct. I just thought they would
face the Seahawks in a Sam Darnold sort of revenge
game that did not happen. I was wrong on the
Eagles and Lions that I thought was going to be
the opener. I had Vikings Lions on Thanksgiving, and I
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had the Cowboys and Chargers on Thanksgiving. Now part of
the scoring system rewards not only getting a team right
in that slot, but if you get a game correct
to get a bonus point. That was good news to
Chris Purfetts, who got a bonus point for correctly predicting Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
In Chiefs on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Chris maybe should have gotten a half point because he
thought the Monday night game was Ravens at Bills. Well,
that was the Sunday night game, so he was a
pretty good, pretty good sensibility with that matchup.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I think I even mentioned I said that this seems
more like a Sunday Night Fair when we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We'll have to check the tape. Maybe Shay can do
that during a break. But that was a good prediction
just a day off. You thought Lions Steelers on Thanksgiving.
That didn't happen, and you were with me with Lions
and Eagles. Now also with five points, is Isaac Lohencron
correctly predicting the Lions versus Packers on Thanksgiving? He thought
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it was gonna be the Eagles and Rams on Opening Night.
Of course we found out it was the Cowboys and Eagles.
He thought that the Chargers like me, were going to
face the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day that did not happen.
A different AFC West squad. He had Texans and Ravens
as the Monday Night game and also tied for second
place with five points. Executive producer Shay who got the
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Lions and correct on Thanksgiving, he thought it was going
to be Eagles Commanders. He also doubled out with Commanders
on Thanksgiving and thought it was Cowboys and Raiders on
Monday Night Football, which was not the case. But five
points for Shay and the winner of our schedule prediction contest,
the one and only Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Really six points, Okay, so it was right there.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, you thought Rams Egos on Opening Night. But again,
you get the one point for the Eagles, you get
the one point for the Lions, and you get a
point for predicting that they were playing the Packers on Thanksgiving.
You get the bonus point because of the game you
had the Cowboys against the Commanders that didn't happen. But
you picked the Bears to play on Monday Night Football
against the Ravens. You thought they are going to play
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another team with purple. But it's as I mentioned, earlier
than Minnesota Vikings. So your pick of your bears on
Monday night football put you over the edge in the
winner of our schedule predicting contest.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
What do I get? No, the fact that we are
all bunched up. It just shows while we we have
all of the opponents, all of the fun stuff, we
don't know what's in the hearts and minds and the
minutia of the data that gets into the scheduling algorithm.
We'll get into the receding potential for playoff action next hour, Dan,
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But you know, as the schedule release comes down and
we start making travel plans and in local markets, no doubt.
All right, let's go through all seventeen weeks. Where's the
buy fall and do we like where the buy is?
Do we not? Is it too early, is it too late?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's one of my I have many problems with the
way scheduling goes because immediately my brain gravitates to let's
look at the final four weeks of the season and
see how many of those sandwich games we get. Right,
here's a division game followed by another game followed by
that same division opponent, and we've got a few of those,
and as we get closer to our fantasy breakdowns and whatever,
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we'll take it out. But it's also that larger question
of division and how much it matters, which is part
of our larger conversation of this receding. But it's never
going to be perfect. But sometimes you just throw your
hands up and say, what do we do?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That's why we were I think surprised with the season
opener being the Eagles and Cowboys, and I tweeted this
out that another people have also said that they felt
that this was the thinking of it, but that the
NFL wanted to have the Cowboys early because they were
afraid egos Cowboys wouldn't matter later on in the secon it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Always matters, like we have not hit the tipic point
at least to my thinking, to where like you saw
the ratings last year, they stunk, but whenever they were
still in a big window, eyeballs still were there.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Sure could also be Dak Prescott's health. I think you
do that with quarterbacks as well. You should try to
cash in your quarterback matchups as fast as you can.
But I do think that the Cowboys stinking it could
be a possibility, and you don't want to put Eagles
Cowboys in Week thirteen and Week sixteen.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So what happens?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And again this is now that there's been four times
in the NFL's history of this kickoff game that they've
had a division matchup be the opening game. Three of
those have been with the NFC East, and the only
time that it wasn't again was Packers and Bears when
they were celebrating the one hundredth anniversary of the league.
That's the only reason why they did it that year
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was to have that long standing rivalry be the first
game in the one hundredth season of the NFL. Otherwise,
the NFC East for some reason, well we know the
reason because of the marquee teams and the markets. But
they've had the division matchups. But Mike, the Seahawks my
favorite team, and I know that there are other matchups
like this. The Seahawks could go the season not playing
(27:46):
a meaningful game really against the forty nine ers, meaning
game one is opening week obviously meaningful, but it's week one.
You have no idea what you are and who you are,
and then you don't play them again until week eighteen, right,
and so it's just this weird bookend of you're kind
of breaking yourself into this long season, figuring yourself out,
(28:10):
and then you don't see that team again until week eighteen,
where maybe one of the teams is out of it.
Maybe one of the teams has already clinched their spot
in the playoffs and know where they're going to be,
so they're gonna rest players. And I just don't think
that that's a great way to the schedule. I don't
know why you would have seventeen weeks in between a
divisional you know, opponents.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, that's the difficult part, right, I go back to
what the Bears started last year, right to use the
localization of my own fandom. They started the season with
three straight games against the AFC South. Tell me how
that makes any sense? Right, Like, I'm very much against
division games in week one for very much what you're saying,
(28:49):
Like you don't know what it is. Give teams timed
a round out because those games are supposed to matter, right,
we keep talking about winning the division.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Fact their rivalry weekends. Now we're going to have rivalry games.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Remember the NFL is going to be now more city
connects for everybody. But it's the idea of I know,
we can't predict injuries.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Part of what is good and bad about the NBA
Playoffs is I don't know by the time we get
to April, the attrition and what happens. Right, maybe your
favorite team loses the stop guy and down you go.
And I'm not saying that for Boston. You guys were
cooked in that series by when Jason Tatum got hurt,
like that game was done. But it's the idea of
(29:30):
at least in the heart of the schedule we can
say we have the best representation of these squads. So
if division games really matter, I'm not saying we eliminate
them from the back end of the schedule altogether, but
being judicious about how that comes to play to where
we get the best representation for games that are supposed
to mean so much. Right, we celebrate all two seventy two.
(29:53):
It's a mantra of the show for me. Whatever, like
we because right now we're thirsting for anything football related.
The Caleb Williams and Broa party stuff. We'll get to
next hour. But when we start off with the division game,
you your Seahawks probably the best. It is the greatest
example you can have. You don't know what you are
new quarterback, new regime, new new everything, and then by
(30:15):
week eighteen, what's left of that squad? Yeah, and motivations
and et cetera, et cetera. So I there's no perfect formula,
but this one clear is a clear outlier of all. Right,
explain to me how this had to happen.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You don't like, you didn't like how the Bear started
out with their AFC South opponents. I'm not opposed to
the NFL figuring out a way to do that, to
have a segmented schedule. Guess what, weeks one through three
or one through four, you're gonna play cross conference, so
then you break into the league. It's not gonna hurt
you tiebreaker wise, but you play those games, you get
them off the schedule. Then you start in weeks you know,
(30:52):
five through ten or whatever. Guess what that's gonna be
a first wave of division games. If we have buys
that we can put, you know, play three of your
games there, then separated a different way, and then have
another wave of those games and save something else for
week eighteen. I think that that would be a way
to do it, to make it interesting, to make it
fair and competitive.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
But I don't know if the NFL wants fair, but that's.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Where it always comes down to fairness in all of
these processes. How much of a fight there really is
for that? He's Dan Byer on Mike Carmon. As we
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Speaker 6 (31:31):
Today, Major League Baseball suspended Philadelphia Phillies closer Jose Alvarado
eighty games without pay after he tested positive for a
performance enhancing substance. Alvarado would also be ineligible for the
postseason should the Phillies make it. Alverado tested positive for
exogenus testosterone aka testosterone supplied from outside the body. Phillies
(31:57):
president Dave Dombrowski told reporters a short time that the
positive test was caused by Alvarado taking a weight loss drug. Today,
at three thirty Eastern, Game seven of the Western Conference
semi Finals from Oklahoma City between the Thunder and Denver
ESPN reported today denver Ford Aaron Gordon will need several
weeks to recover from his left hamstring strain, making it
(32:19):
physically improbable for him to play today, then tonight at
seven thirty eastern, Game seven in Round two of the
Stanley Cup Playoffs as the Toronto Maple Leafs host the
Florida Panthers.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Golf.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
After three rounds of the PGA Championship at Quail Hollow,
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par overall, and we'll see off the final round today
at two forty Eastern time.
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We appreciate you being with us Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carman,
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(33:44):
of a diving goalie to give the one nil lead.
But all of that is just a nice prelimb to
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I turn all attention and the spotlight to my guy
Dan Byer.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I think our teas may be helpful to our contestants
and hopefully our listening audience. Let's get the Fox family
together and play the feud. Yeah, we're talking prime time.
We were just talking NFL schedule. We could do the
easy one. We could do the glass half full. No,
we're not going. Why would we do that last half empty?
(34:18):
Let's be the pessimist that we all are top eight
answers on the board. Teams with the fewest primetime games
in the twenty twenty five NFL schedule, fewest primetime games
in the NFL schedule. Mike Harmon, Chris Purfett, producer Shay
and Isaac Glow and Crown make up our team.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Harmon, Let's start with you.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
The number one pick gives you the number one answer.
The Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Show me the Tennessee Titans a big fat goose egg.
No primetime games. And again, this is night games. These
are games at night. This doesn't mean maybe a Black
Friday game or Thanksgiving game. This means prime time at
night games time. I usually go to Chris Prefet's second,
(35:07):
but I'm going to Shaye second.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
I know, I think, I know, all right, Yeah, the
Browns baby one PM merchants.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Hey, but their schedule release was fire Dan, that magical elf,
really captivating.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Oh, I know, I thought it was great too. They
did also some memes and all that. They did a
good job this year, all right job this year we
saw the Titans, remember them? Show me the Cleveland Browns.
There they are also with zero zero primetime games. Now
over to Chris Prefet.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Couldn't be me, although granted a few years ago the
Lions were one PM merchants. True, I'm gonna be honest.
The only the only release video I ever watched this
year was the Chargers. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. You know
what I haven't heard from in a while. They're forgettable.
What about the Dolphins? Dolphins? Is it the Dolphins? No
(36:00):
first strike on the board? In fact, somehow the Dolphins
have five rods? Wait, we did.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Want five minutes on that Smith and the other day,
like I just went off on that whole concept, Like
what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
I guess Isaac Glowing Cron you can't go right with
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Show me the Panther one one primetime game.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
For Carolina in twenty twenty five, subject to change based
on flex scheduling, but for the purposes of this exercise,
they have won. Back around to Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
No Derek Carr, no primetime games.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Show me the Saints. Yes, ain't that correct? The Saints
no primetime games?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Our three goose eggs are off the board. Now around
to Shay. Teams are the fewest primetime games in the
twenty twenty five NFL schedule.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Jags.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That sounds like Jaguars, question mark, and I think it
should be Jaguars periods.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It is Jacksonville off the board. Chris Purfett over to you.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I really don't want to be responsible for all these strikes.
You know what, Hey, I'm looking at Dan. I'm looking
to swear in the face Seattle.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Is it the Seahawks? They got four? They got four?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Sam?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Sam?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Sam say yes, everybody wants to watch the Darnold Show.
All right, Isaac Glowing Crown. There is a pass available
if you need.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
I'm Ron Burgundy.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I'm guessing the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Is it New England have a Sunday night game? Oh
all right, Mike, game's over. We lost.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
We only got five of our eight. You guys want
to throw a.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Colts. Well, Mike just said Jets. He's correct with that.
Ye Colts got one. Falcons have five?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Why?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yes, people are in love with Michael Pennix Junior and
that high octane offense that they feel the Falcons have five?
About a correct, bucks, The Buccaneers actually have four.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I sent out a tweet and I thought it was
actually funny. I know, I don't want to laugh at
my own joke. If the Arizona Cardinals had one of
their players do a song to their schedule, and I
said the name of.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
The song, should have been four or five Eastern time
like I thought it was. That's what all their games
are going to be.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
The Arizona Cardinals only had two prime time games.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
That makes sense on the schedule.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I just would have completely forgotten about the Cardinals because
everyone forgets about that.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
This is if we did the flip side.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
If we did the most, obviously, we never would have
gotten Dolphins or Falcons unless somebody else answered. But the
Chiefs have seven, Cowboys have six. Then these teams with
five Dolphins, Falcons, Lions, Eagles, Commanders, Bills, Chargers, and the
forty nine ers, those are your five primetime game teams
in the NFL this year.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, the curiosity becomes once we get into flex season,
right because the Bears only had three, yes, which I
think when we talk about the Dolphins and some of
these other squads, you're going, how do you not with
all the hype, all the excitement, whatever, not get them
into the games.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
You have a Week one primetime game against the Vikings
and then a Week seventeen game against the forty nine ers,
like so, then just one throw out the season. And
again there could be but this is the Thursday night game.
This is the Thursday night on Thanksgiving, but not the
earlier games. This is the primetime games and that's what
the NFL laid out for us.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Fun time, fun time, and we don't normally strike out.
We'll get him again next week thanks to Shay and
Chris and Ilo. He's Dan Byron Mike Carmen as we
come to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios
here in southern California at Dan Byron Fox, where you
find him. Find me over at Swollendome. Coming up next,
we stay in the NFL with an imodest proposal that's
(40:07):
gaining a lot of steam. We'll do that next here
on Fox. Locked in loaded hour two of the program.
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Speaker 2 (40:53):
It's gonna be fun in afternoon Game seven in this
playoff window of funky NBA schedule. But this one is
an ABC game, so you got a three thirty Eastern
time tip. Nix and Pacers don't start until Wednesday. Good,
So there was no basketball yesterday.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Good. Monday and tuesdayday matter for me.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Monday there is no basketball. Tuesday is when I believe
the West Finals will begin, either with the Nuggets or
Thunder partaking against the Timberwolves. But it is unique in
that way, Mike, where I think everybody just assumed. I
think a lot of people assume that there would be
a game yesterday and that if the Knick Celtics went
(41:34):
to Sunday that it would be played today. That wasn't
going to be the case Nicks and Celtics Game seven
was actually scheduled.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
For Monday night.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, but the NBA has their way in setting up
their schedule, so then their conference finals run in a
certain way leading up to the NBA Finals. But an
afternoon tilt, I don't think it will change the atmosphere
that you get inside the arena in Oklahoma City. But
it may not matter because Gordon's injury is such a
blow to the Nuggets. I mean it really is. For
(42:04):
I know, Julian Strather at a great game six, and
so you're looking for other people to step up. But
Gordon has just been such a key piece, not only
in the series but in these playoffs, and to not
have him is so tough to rebound from.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
We'll get to our NFL receding conversation in a moment.
We've got some purty and Caleb Williams Chicago guy, it'd
be remiss not to give the two cents to tell
everybody to calm down and look into your own father, mother, auntie, uncle,
grandma and grandpa and your role as you know, what
(42:42):
you're doing with your kid's extracurricular activities. Are you so different?
We'll talk about that in a minute. But Oklahoma City
eight and a half point favorites line moved about a
half a point when the Gordon injury was brought to bear.
You mentioned Strawther, You look at Brown, Russell Westbrook, and
one of the things for this series, Dan is I've
(43:05):
never been a more ardent supporter of a random team
than what the Denver Nuggets are right now into And
I'll tell you why and see if you can follow
this logic America. Yeah, glorious is I love Sga? Right?
He was the guy that when he got traded away
from the clip is like, nah, I guess pretty good.
(43:26):
Like did I think he'd be an MVP guy? No,
But you're bringing back Paul George, all that whatever, And
now you see what that team's become, how they've built it, whatever.
It's a great story, right. Regular season, Like, I get
the argument regular season should matter. The fact that you
played and balled out and kicked everybody's ass for eighty
(43:46):
two games should matter. However, I take the Nuggets for
this one. I like Jokic because he's a guy that
at any point could just decide he's leaving, he's had
enough of the NBA, I'm going home, I'm gonna ride
my horses around the track and I'm done. So I
like that part of it. But what I loved organizationally
is the cronkeys and their brain trust before the end
(44:06):
of the regular season said we're not going forward with
Michael Malone. Right, He's nuked players at the podium. There's
a lot of unrest in the background, and then you've
got their GM Calvin Booth and they said, you know what,
it's untenable. We're done. And this is the lesson for
everybody in your lives, your job, your relationships, the friend
(44:27):
that only shows up when he needs something or whatever,
is to recognize when you need to cut things, you
need to cut things. And the Denver Nuggets did something
that when it happened, how could you do that? Michael
Malone won a title just two years ago, Like nobody's
getting along. Now you've got Nicola Jokic with the whiteboard
drawn up plays and I don't know what Adamman, whether
(44:48):
he's just a guy in a suit or if he's
actually making a difference. But the idea that as an organization,
right before the playoffs, you said, we're not going with this.
We're gonna take our best shot and we're not gonna
let this potentially bleed. Because I think it was Josh
Cronky did an interview where he said, if we win
a couple of games, all of a sudden, we're that
(45:08):
much harder in a position of well, can we make
a tweak here, can we change something here? Whereas you know,
they had a stretch where they went on a winning
streak after the All Star break, and that's what he
alluded to directly. And you look at the teams that
they beat. They were good teams. They weren't playing particularly
great baskets were so the fact that as an organization
they said, you know what, we're ending it at the
(45:30):
end of the season. However, let's just go into the playoffs,
clean slate, free up whatever mess was behind the scenes,
and let the chips fall where they may. And I
respect the hell out of that, because there's not in
our lives, and certainly in sports. How many times you say, well,
I mean look, and I'm a Bears guy, I'm a
Chicago guy. What do they do? They grind out to
(45:51):
the end of contracts almost every time, no matter how
poorly everything is going, it's well, he still has two years,
and you'll watch that guy get the two years consistently. Yes,
Nuggets said no, we're done.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Ye, absolutely, there's you would think that some in some
places in the NFL, maybe three and four years when
it came to head coaches, except in New England.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You know, right, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I don't know the one it does. I mean, I
can go back to Arizona and what they did whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, I mean I always think of gene Chiswick at
Auburn and they go, they win the national championship with
Cam Newton, and you think that it buys you five years, right,
and it it doesn't. And in the NBA, which is
the poster child for moving on quickly from coaches, you
would think of anybody in the league that you felt
(46:44):
would have had a comfortable sitting and had security would
have been Michael Malone. But it does take guts, It
takes that you know what's to make that decision, and
they did For that point, I can see what you're
saying to me. For as great as Jokic has been
and how magnificent he's been through so many seasons, I
(47:06):
still as Denver as a team just to me, has
never met the eye test. Sure, Like I don't. I
don't understand how it gets done. I said two years ago,
and the seed numbers prove it. It was the easiest
path to an NBA title that we have ever seen.
And I still am not a believer. And so that
(47:26):
is why like and The perfect example is Jokic airball
three caught by Gordon dunk Tom they beat the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
There's a lot of dan.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
It was a calculated under completely wetting their pants in
Game one and trying to close it out and not
understanding the strategy and when the foul and how it
breaks down, and then Gordon still has to hit the shot,
like he still has to to make that basket, and
he did so, tip of the cap to him. But
(47:58):
I just have I've never bend that believer in Denver,
and I want Oklahoma City to do it. And I'm
actually glad that it won seven games because I think
that these organizations and teams that are not Johnny cum
Lately's because that's not the right term, but are new
to this level of basketball, like this Thunder team is,
even though they were at number one seed last year
(48:19):
and a number one seed again this year. You need
to be like in a game seven improved.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
That you can win it.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I think it completely changed the perception of the Minnesota
Timberwolves going to Denver last year and winning that Game
seven against the Nuggets, coming back in that game after
an early deficit and winning that game. That to me
tells me that they've arrived and that they've got something
that not every team has. Now they end up facing
(48:46):
Luca in the MAVs last year in the Conference finals,
Luca throws daggers at him and they go home after
what five games. But still it told me that Minnesota
can go on the road and win a game in
a tough environ and do so with everything on the line.
Oklahoma City has the advantage of being at home. But
you get to you win today, That tells me, all right,
(49:10):
now you're here. It wasn't the regular season top seeds
the last couple of years. It wasn't sweeping through the
Grizzlies with ease, Like you win this game and get
to a point that you haven't been because last year
you were ousted in the Conference semis. You get to
a point this year that you weren't last year, then
tip of the cap to you, like, I want Oklahoma
(49:32):
City to have this situation in a way. I feel
the Pacers got it last year with their win against
the Knicks in Game seven. But I don't know if
we even believe in the Knicks as much. And I
told you last week, I don't even know if the
Pacers are good or not and here there on the
Eastern Conference Finals, but we know that they can win
those big games. We saw what they did against Cleveland
(49:54):
in that series, and I think for Oklahoma City today
is their opportunity to arrive.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Now you mentioned Cleveland, Kenny Atkinson, now on the hot
seat wins coach of the Year in recent history, says
that may come back to bite you really fast, this
particularly the way they go down now. I do have
to ask this, in a week of conspiracies surrounding the NBA,
the draft lottery, some of the officiating fun and excitement
(50:20):
and you know, rotations and all, does it strike you
as odd that we've announced every NBA award except MVP
and we've got a Game seven against Jokischen SGA today.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
So what you're saying, I'm just gonna just kind of funny.
I'm just saying, just even though cast Mike is saying,
whoever wins this game will secretly, well not secretly, but
they will they will either change or keep the results
of the votes done whoever wins Game seven time.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
It's like at WWE belt you get to walk with
loser leaves town match, you get nothing and if you
win in advance, you get it all.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I like the presentation before the game. That's why he
hated when the NBA tried to do that award show
for a couple of years, when they did it after
the season, when then everybody was just like, guys, we
just had ten months of the NBA. Now I got
to sit through an award show and find out who
the MVP is. I like the here he is Nicolay
Okitch and then he gets his trophy at mid court.
(51:17):
They may they'll they announce it earlier, but they present them.
I like that tradition in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
I'm one hundred percent with you. I just find it funny.
It's like, here's all the awards, We've had him for
a week plus MVP and app now we get game seven,
Like it just seems odd to me. You can stream
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(52:05):
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As we roll through final moments here Arsenal still with
a one zero lead over Newcastle, a lot of activity
near the goal mount here in the last couple of minutes.
(52:27):
We're getting ready for game seven. We just chronicled that
a little bit. Okay, see and Denver, No Aaron Gordon
unless suddenly he's got a herculean treatment for a Grade
two handy strain, Suddenly he's superhuman. Just put him in
the corner there. He doesn't rotate. You play four on
five and then he just sits the corner. Three.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
I'll tell you what the funny thing is is we
look at it and say, yokicch may need a herculean
effort today, but usually when he does, it means nobody
else is involved and so they may not win. So
that's what makes it so difficult with Denver is everybody
needs to contribute when they're at their best, and now
they're not Aaron Gordon, so then somebody else is gonna
(53:10):
have to step up.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, I think it all comes down to one guy.
Is it good Russ or bad Russ? You get good Russ,
he's been really really good. Yes, bad Russ. Go back
to Game six.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
I was gonna say, what a revenge, But it's not
really revenge because he's stuck around for Oklahoma City as
long as he could and stayed with the franchise. But
it would be a nice I guess homecoming if you will,
if he came out and had that type of performance.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
One of if you guys to still get a standing
ovation in a place that he left. No ill will
there not like saying, what was it, mister unreliable? Anyway,
Dan Byer, Mike Carmon with you here, Fox Sports Sunday.
So we've got the proposal that's come up with the
NFL and something has been kicked around for a long while.
Your Seahawks have been part of it. And go back
(53:55):
to a year where you're not a dominant division winner,
and the old argument of how much division title should
get you right, one home game, multiple home games, or
once you're past that for it gets you in. And
that's the proposal at hand. Right, you get in based
on winning your division, and you and I people can
(54:16):
find the podcast we did this a couple of weeks ago,
from just the schedule as a whole, when we talk
about the regular season and division games and does the
division still hold a lot of weight when you're playing
six division games against what's going to be an eighteen
game slate. Yes, So put a pin in that. Go
find the podcast, Look up Fox Sports Weekends. You can
find that discussion from a couple of weeks ago. But
(54:38):
now the idea of all right, you get in, say
you're you know, eight and eight and nine or nine
and eight, But there's another squad coming off of the
pack in the wild card round. Who goes and wins
thirteen games, fourteen games like we did a year ago
in Detroit and Minnesota and some of these teams where
(54:59):
you have them Monster season, and we're never gonna solve
the inequities of the schedule. And that's where this gets
really difficult, right because some years you're going to face
an AFC South and be able to maybe rack up
four easy wins. You still have to play and win
the games. But and we don't know going into the season.
We have our perceptions of what teams are going to be,
and we did that last hour with the number of
(55:21):
primetime games for a few of those squads. What do
we expect from these teams that nobody's gonna want to
watch them? But now the idea of all right, you
win those wild card rounds and you get rewarded by okay,
you had a monster regular season. Now what that means
for the schedule the next year and all of that
is to be ironed out. But in the in the
(55:43):
short term, I don't have strong feelings on it either way.
Like I've always been a division guy, Like, if we're
gonna say that it's important, then it should remain important.
But I see the other side of it as well.
If you dominated and you just happen to, you know,
finish second in a dominant season, that you don't get
(56:03):
rewarded in some way for that.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
It's funny because I think we all think that it's
because of the Minnesota Vikings that this is now a conversation.
And I was bothered when Minnesota goes fourteen and three
last year and there was really no way for them
to host a playoff game unless the Eagles made a
(56:26):
miraculous run to the or excuse me, the Packers made
a miraculous run to the NFC championship game, or the
Commanders and you know, as as it's laid out, and
all the Commanders did, and so okay, so maybe that
lessens a little bit. From Minnesota side. You and I
are talking here about the fairness of the NFL and
(56:49):
how what is fair and what isn't fair is not
what the NFL owners are talking about. And Mike, that's
what drives me crazy, is you and I have an
outlook of what is important with these NFL teams and
should you be rewarded for what you've done in the
regular season. The NFL is looking at this change because
(57:12):
they want more bang for their buck. Sure they're not
doing it to say, hey, Minnesota could have gotten screwed
last year at fourteen and three by not getting a
home game. That's what I'm saying. You may not be
saying the same exact thing, but you're looking at it
for what is in fairness to how we reward a
team for the regular season and does a team get
(57:32):
over rewarded for not doing as much as another team.
The NFL is wanting to make a change or is
discussing a change, not because they feel Minnesota got screwed
at fourteen and three, where they feel Detroit got screwed
because of who they had to play in the divisional round.
They're making a change because the Rams didn't care about
Week eighteen. The Packers didn't care about Week eighteen, and
(57:57):
other teams that were in the playoff picture didn't care
about Week eighteen. Now it affected Green Bay and it
gave the Commanders a boost. They go and they win
their final game. In Week eighteen, Green Bay loses to
your Bears and it changes the seating. The NFL is
thinking about doing this because they want the Rams to
care about their game. In Week eighteen, they had the
(58:19):
division wrapped up to them. It didn't matter where they
were three or four and how it was going to
settle out. So they arrested everybody against the Seahawks, not
what the NFL is saying. Well, if you're ten and
seven and Green Bay is a wild card, is eleven
and six, you may want to play that game and
win that game because your seating could have gone from
(58:40):
a six or seven up to a four. You and
I are looking at the fairness of it. The NFL says,
how can we get a better product in week eighteen?
And that's the frustrating part to me, Mike, is because
I actually want to just see a better path and
teams get rewarded. All the NFL wants to do is
get more bang for their buck.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Well, and it's the hard part, right because for the NFL,
they talk out of both sides of their mouth. Because
we still have the draft system as it's set up.
You've got teams from week thirteen on that aren't playing
right right, all right, Hey, you know what we need
to see the young guys. No, you're quitting because you
know that may mean you go get your quarterback of
(59:21):
the future or you got your designs on that six'
five behemoth that's going to come and obliterate opposing passers
for the next ten, years, right so you can solve
it for those two or three instances where a team
does operations shut down fairly. Rare, right we didn't have
a we don't have a lot Of peyton, manning you,
(59:43):
know wave For Jim sorgie to come walking off the,
sidelines and because how many years did they? Do that
didn't work out for he And dungee too many times,
Though no ended up being a foolhardy. Strategy but the
point being you get a couple of, those yet you've
got what ten teams in the, league maybe a third
of your. League then in the final weeks of the, seats, like,
yeah let's see if that young quarterback has anything, right
(01:00:06):
he was a seventh round. Pick go throw them out,
there see if you got.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Something, well The rams are, saying why would we Put
Matthew stafford at risk when we've wrapped up the division
and we're going to play a wild card team anyway
that's likely going to Be washington Or Green bay and
depending on how their games fall, out it may not
matter with our.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Game so who.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Cares we'll either be a six or Seven and like
that's teams are just they don't care where they're. Seated
AND i think THAT i think that there would have
been an argument really For, minnesota Except minnesota actually caught
a break by facing The rams in that neutral site.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Game.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Right so, ultimately when you see a fourteen and three
team go and lose in the first, round normally you would, say,
man that stinks for them because they had to go
on the road and play a team in their place
that didn't do nearly as much as What minnesota it
did in the regular. Season but now they have to
go and travel and they, lost and they're out of.
(01:01:06):
It The rams are the ones who were the most
inconvenienced in that, situation, right they were supposed to have
the home. Game they were the ones that were Uprooted.
Minnesota is whether they flat Of la or flat Of
phoenix didn't. Matter they were going to be flying. Anyway
and they go and play a game And la runs
them off the, field completely dominates and kicks The. Vikings
(01:01:27):
But vikings only lost to The lions And rams last.
Year but it's tough for me to talk about fairness
to reward The Minnesota, vikings even though that was the
one WHO i.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Was, championing you, know championing.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
When they go to and they lose a neutral and
stress absolutely and it shows, like, okay well maybe fourteen
and three and ten and seven aren't that. Different and
it's one of the reasons WHY i think that THE
nfl owners wouldn't make the change because of fairness is
because of What minnesota. Did BUT i don't think THE
nfl owners are are voting on. Fairness they're voting on
(01:02:03):
how can we maximize, this how can we make more
of our games? Better WHICH i don't think it's a
Concern week. Eighteen to, me it's kind of been a
throwaway week, anyway unless there's something really really on the,
line Like Vikings lions in that final. Game but THE
nfl apparently wants more of that and are willing to
make changes not because of, fairness.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Well because that's what we've talked about for as long
as you AND i have been doing shows together here At.
Fox which is a. Minute for those that have been with,
us thank. You if you're, new well thank you as.
Well stick. Around we got a lot of good stuff for.
You but it's just that idea Of week seventeen was
always the, throwaway. Right you AND i can do a
fantasy podcast for years and it's always that discussion to
(01:02:45):
include or not Include, okay now it's just week, eighteen
and eventually it'll be week, nineteen maybe week, twenty depending
on how they work the bye weeks and whatever. Else
but all of that to, say the final week of the,
year very few of those matchups have. Meaning and when
we talk about just grab every sport, right wrap them
all in a big. Embrace what happens in the final
(01:03:07):
stretches of a regular. Season you're trying to be healthy
for the, playoffs, right while we have load. Management you
can hate load, management. RIGHT i heard so many long
stint you, know getting on their. Soapboxes When greg popovichri
tried not, hey what a great, Run i'm sorry he's
having health. Issues, now it's like he ruined THE, Nba
like what because he was smart realizing that eighty two
(01:03:30):
games on a body was not good for his big
men and guys that were in their mid thirties that
he was trying to win titles. With i'm sorry he was.
Smart johnny And susie didn't get to See Tim duncan
on a Random tuesday In Oklahoma. City i'm. Sorry they're
about winning, titles, correct that's what you're supposed to be
(01:03:51):
trying to. Do, yes it's a show all the way.
Through and so When lebron didn't show, UP i did
it here IN la With kobe in his final. YEARS
i had a small interest in a season ticket. Package
you know how many GAMES i got to see him
play his final year. Zero BUT i understood the, risk,
yes because of what he was trying to do and
that his body was falling. Apart Matthew stafford's the guy
(01:04:12):
at some of the heart of. This we've been asking
for three years whether his body was gonna hold up
enough to keep. Playing right this off, season there was
a minute of all, right, well, no he's got fifty
million reasons to come, Back they've got a pretty good,
squad whatever. Else but like all of that to, say
you're trying to be healthy for the second. Season so
(01:04:32):
not Playing week eighteen is no different than it's ever been.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Correct and it's it's funny Because minnesota under this new,
format AND i used them because they think their fourteen
and three records stood out so, much when really this
is about a team like The, rams like that's who
this is. About minnesota would benefit from this change because
they would have gotten a home game last. Year this
(01:04:58):
is essentially THE nfl, said, saying winning your division gets
you in the, playoffs it doesn't guarantee you a home,
game which is something That i've felt for a long.
Time minnesota under the seeding, way if they followed the,
seeding would have been a three seed in THE nfl
because The eagles would have got precedent because of their
division win as the two, seed but as your a three,
(01:05:18):
Seed minnesota would have hosted The rams Or. Buccaneers, however
the tiebreaker would have shaken out in that, scenario So
minnesota would benefit from this new way of doing. It,
Mike i'm if they do it that, Way i'm fine with.
It i'm fine if they, say you know what we
want to, do we want to reced but we still
(01:05:39):
want to give the division winners one home. Game i'm
fine with that receed then, afterwards Like minnesota shouldn't go
fourteen to three in a season and have basically no
chance at hosting a home game and having to go
To tampa or having to go To la depending on
how the bracket changed. Out they can make money in
(01:06:00):
tweaks to. THIS i just don't think that they care
to because they just want for some. Reason week, eighteen
to have more.
Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Value this always gets back to the heart of the
matter as, Well, dan who are the loudest voices in
those rooms in terms, of, hey you cost me gate m, hm,
Right So minnesota not getting a home, game you cost
me gate and millions of dollars of. Revenue, Right so
you start getting into those battles as, well, marketplace market,
(01:06:28):
SIZE tv, windows. Whatever but also we've always talked About
craft And Jerry. Jones well there's other guys at that table.
Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Too And i'll tell you, what If minnesota was proposing,
THIS i think it would look kind of. Weird then
it'd be, like, okay But detroit's the one proposing. It
it's almost Like detroit understood what was at stake in
That sunday night game in week, eighteen knowing what could
happen if they don't, win and, said all, right, well
if luckily they won that. GAME i shouldn't say luckily
(01:06:59):
they earned that, game but for their sake and all of,
this they won that game and got the number one.
Seed and while it didn't work out for, THEM i
think going In mike the front office and whoever actually
wanted to propose to this, thought, boy this would really.
Stink if we were on the other side of things
Like minnesota, is we would go and we'd win all
of these. Games and, now because the other team in
(01:07:21):
our conference in what THE nfl says is an even
schedule in divisions and it really isn't goes and has
a better or has home field, advantage and we don't
get any home. GAMES i think it helps That detroit
was the one proposing this as opposed to someone Like,
minnesota where it would look like sour.
Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Grapes, now you just had the ears perk up of
our technical, Producer chris purphett is prior Of detroit, Podcast,
chris what do you got on?
Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
It? Yeah SO i think this is basically exactly how it.
HAPPENED i remember our reporting at the time was so
this all stemmed from Aman Ross Saint, brown who has
this broadcast with his Brother, equanimius and they had made
a comment going into that game where Aman ra was, like,
yeah this suck if, we you, know lose this and
have to go on the. Road and THE nfl basically
approached an executive from THE nfl basically approached The lions
(01:08:07):
and basically, said, hey this sounds like you know your
player has this, interest why don't you propose this as a.
Rule so it's kind of like the league like going
to The lions saying you should put this, forward WHICH
i find a very, interesting a very interesting development on
all of this is that the league kind of had
this interest to you, know either be seen as like
(01:08:30):
player for it on this way or this is something
that maybe some of the league want to, see but
they would need a team to put it.
Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Forward, well that would that would that would, jive that
would go with what is, saying because, again this isn't about.
Fairness this is about somebody in the league not wanting
The packers to rest their players in a division game
against The Chicago, bears not Wanting Jimmy garoppolo to start
a quarterback for The rams in a division matchup against
(01:08:56):
The seahawks at, home right where there was that they
want those guys to, play and so to sit there
and Bring detroit in well not for the same, reason because,
again THE nfl does not care about. Fairness that it
is not about being. Fair it's about maximizing their dollar
(01:09:16):
and their, product and that's the only reason why they're
thinking about.
Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
That, well and getting your television partners probably For week
eighteen and ratings did, Right so we probably have some
make goods. Advertisers because of as much AS i Love Jimmy,
Garoppolo White sox, fan one of five of, us you
know that kind of, Thing i'll.
Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Also say, this it would give them more of an
option too On Sunday night football and trying to figure
out what games to, play because remember there was a
point where, like, man what game are they going to?
Put like what could be at stake depending on certain
outcomes as we are winding down the. Season this at
least would say to, them, well if home field advantage
for like a four seed is at, stake at least
(01:09:56):
you could play that game or have that game be
played On Sunday, night BECAUSE i don't think last year
there were a lot of great options For lions And
vikings was the. Obvious but if certain things happened where
The lions had things wrapped, up that wouldn't have been
a game that you would have put On Sunday night, football.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
All, Right last two. Points virginia McCaskey passed away in the.
Offseason last thing she got to see on the Field
bears beating The. Packers she didn't see a lot of
that the last thirty plus. Years the other this might
be the first time something really big other than show
content came out of AN, NFL nba or any player.
Podcast sure, right actually something of substance if there is
(01:10:36):
you know more than you know a two percent weight to.
That yeah, RIGHT i mean like otherwise it's, saying, oh
this guy's talking out of, school let's talk about.
Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
IT.
Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
X i didn't know the part about THE nfl possibly
addressing someone with The, lions BUT i guarantee if you're The,
lions you know what was at stake on That sunday
night game and why that game was so, important and
so to have them bring it up instead of The Minnesota,
VIKINGS i wonder if it would have been vice versa
if The vikings win that, game and then even if
somebody hears the comments from Aman Aros Saint, brown somebody
(01:11:05):
from THE nfl goes To minnesota and because it would
look Like minnesota's just got sour grapes if they were
the one to propose, It BECAUSE i, mean it looks
like The packers have sour grapes because they're proposing banning
the thush push shit.
Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Well as our old colleague here and husband To lakers
Owner Jeanie. Buss our Buddy Jay moore would say put your.
Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Name, yes so.
Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
At least The packers did. That, yeah we don't like.
It that was all, Right, yeah it's we got no
problem with. It as we continue, on we've got a
Veritable Pope pourri to close out the. Show He's Dan
bayer At Dan Byron. Fox you find me over At Swollen.
Dome thanks To Chris. Prophett we got our guys Shay
uh making it sound so pretty as. Well but now
it's time to turn our attention back to the news
desk and our Guy Isaac. Loandron we run to it
(01:11:50):
one more time to get an update on the sporting.
Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
Universe Hi Abudy real busy, day. Guys Major League. Baseball
today's Suspended Philadelphia phillies Closer Jose alvarado eighty games games
without pay after he tested positive for a performance enhancing.
Substance alvarado would also be ineligible for the postseason should
The phillies make it. Elsewhere multiple outlets report The Los
Angeles dodgers have Designated Chris taylor for. Assignment The Baltimore
(01:12:16):
orioles have designated Pitcher Kyle gibson for. Assignment right now In,
BALTIMORE Cj abrams of The nationals hit the first pitch
of the game for a home run to right, field
So washington a one to nothing lead At baltimore in
the top half of the, first hitting The Texas rangers
And Houston astros, scoreless and the top of the third
(01:12:37):
also just getting underway right, now The Red sox hosting
The Atlanta, Braves phillies hosting The, pirates and The Blue
jays hosting The Detroit, tigers covering up at three point
Thirty Eastern game seven of the NBA's Western conference Semi
finals From Oklahoma city between The thunder And, denver with
THE espn reporting today The denver Forward Aaron gordon will
need several weeks to recover from his left hamstring, strain
(01:12:59):
making it physical improbable for him to play. Today, finally in,
golf going into the final round THE Pga championship At
Quail hollow And, Charlotte North, Carolina Scotti scheffler as a
three shot lead at eleven under par. Overall he shot
a six under sixty five On, saturday and we'll tee
off the final round today about one hour from.
Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Now, guys back to, you thanks so. Much. Ilo follow
him At Isaac Lowandro, kron Find dan At Dan Byron,
fox find me over At Swollen.
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Dome just anythink it couldn't get worse for The orioles first,
pitch top of the, first on the verge of being
swept by The, nationals fire their skipper yesterday they have
lost ten to. Twelve actually it's NOT i think eleven or. Thirteen,
yeah it's it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Good it was supposed to be a. Positivity here's the
young up and comers instead the last way, long miserably right.
Now some injuries mixed therein as there always, are but
just a rudderless ship and they're battling The White sox
And rockies for.
Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Futility hey You're White sox showing some heart though earlier
in the week almost swept The.
Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Reds, yeah and now they'll try to avoid the suite
against The. Cubs, hated Hated. Cubs also the change of
eras he Says Chris, Taylor Austin barnes also, gone that
era of The dodgers starting to flow, out you, Know
Clayton kershaw back on the hill For, however many times
we've got left thirty strikeouts from three. Thousand He's, Dan
(01:14:25):
I'll mike coming up. Next we got A Pope, porix
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(01:15:08):
Minutes dan's going to speed home to try to be
there for the First, yeah first.
Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Team as much AS i think it's a foregone, CONCLUSION
i may not.
Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
TODAY i.
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Don't all, right you want to go to the card shop?
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Instead, Oh i'll Watch i'll, watch BUT i just may,
not may not risk my life to do.
Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
It there you go at me a game. Seven we
talked about it With Okay see And. Den we're on
opposite sides of things for reasons you may not have.
Expected and you can find that in the podcast that
our executive Producer shale have. Up in a couple of
a couple of, minutes we'll finish with a couple OF
nba OR nfl. Stories, dan just really quick, thoughts because
you AND i will we'll get back into the podcast.
(01:15:47):
Studio we'll do more. Shows plenty of time to talk
About Caleb williams And Brock purdy in a much larger.
Sense but we've been. Remiss we didn't talk about the
The Stanley cup, playoffs one of the great traditions and
all the handshake line at the end and yesterday at
the end of the series between The Winnipeg jets And
Dallas stars took a whole other meaning to. It as
(01:16:09):
you Had, schufley Longtime jets player who has been a
staple for many of these, years and he learned before
the game that his father had passed away back In,
ontario still showed up to play scored their first. Goal
(01:16:31):
you want to talk about an emotional moment and the
resonance in the, arena social media just goes, nuts right
and all of. That and then in overtime he gets
called for a penalty that sets up the eventual game. Winner.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Yeah, Yeah Mark shifley of The Winnipeg jets is actually
right at the end of regulation of about twenty seconds to.
Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Go but what they ended up losing in.
Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Overtime but it's the range of, emotions and there was
a question about whether or not he was going to,
play AND i think, ultimately when you're the competitor and
you mean as much to that team as he, does
it ends up being a no. Brainer But, mike what
was so heartbreaking to me in this, WAS i think
we go back to The Brett Favre raiders, game The
(01:17:16):
Monday night, affair When Brett farvre's dad passes away and
the question is Is farv gonna? Play and then he just
has this career game before all of our. Eyes AND
i know that The farv piece On netflix comes out this,
week but when we look back At Brett farvre's, career
that game stands. Out it's a top five game and
(01:17:39):
maybe a top three game Of Brett farv's career of
the way that he responded following the death of his.
Father AND i Think, mike in those, situations we think of,
man somebody was looking you, know somebody was looking down
on him and Carried farv through. It we don't realize
in sports that there's the other side of. It So
(01:18:00):
shifeley's penalty could have saved the goal at the time
because it looked like it was going to be a
breakaway and they didn't know where to penalty a penalty.
Shot they just gave them a power. Play but it
was a two, minor, Yes but it was in that
power play on the other side entering the first minute
fifty of overtime that The stars were able to get
(01:18:21):
their game winning. Goal and you talk about the range of,
emotions like to you score a goal to put your
team up one nothing and you, think, oh maybe it's
that far sort, of and then your team's tied up
at one and you commit the penalty and you're in
the penalty box and you're not on the, ice and
all of a sudden they score and your season's. Over
and then once you leave that locker, room you got
(01:18:42):
to deal with real. Life like my heart just, Sank
like it was JUST i don't, know like What Mark
schifley is going, through because everybody deals with grief in
a different. Way BUT i just felt for him last.
NIGHT i just just really felt for.
Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Him no question about. It Jamie, ben who he'd been
in the altercation with In game, six was the first guy,
there the, captain, yes and they embraced for quite a.
While just the the handshake, line which we'd love as
one of the great traditions that lives, on took on
so much more meaning as you had that collection of,
players and you get emotional just thinking about, it, right
(01:19:18):
all the. Stuff they were eight seconds away from killing the,
penalty right eight, seconds and that was what they were
all focused on in the post game is like we
couldn't get that eight that extra eight.
Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Second i'll just say.
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
THIS i think EVEN abc didn't want to make it
all About shifley because they would like end up going
away to maybe a different, shop but then they would
always come back to, it and it was just a heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Moment, yeah we all process in different, ways find your
wins as you go out and to make the most of.
It He's, Dad I'm. Mike thanks for being with us this.
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