Mike Harmon & Dan Beyer Talk College Football Seeding, NBA Conference Finals, Aaron Rodgers, & So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:23):
the fracturing of this television marketplace, becomes the all right,
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
The dreaded phrase this is a peacock only broadcast was
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we could deal with it, okay.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
You can almost hear the sad violins in Chris's voice
as he behind him as he said that, and well
in there it is asking we shall receive Crystal Palace.
Liverpool gett ready to start second half, so we got
that going. We got Tigers and already on the diamond
this morning, a very early start, so you got that

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going for it. In D five hundred, a little bit later.
My memory was always on the Monday. But maybe I'm
misremembering as I get older. I don't know either way.
You can watch that on Fox, but so much going
on NBA action. Will get to whatever the Knicks give
us against the Bass a little bit later. But good
to see Dan. A beautiful Sunday here. Memorial Day weekend

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obviously a lot of travel and back at forth soccer tournaments.
I had the glow of many a sun find me yesterday.
So I've used a half a bottle bottle of aloe
in less than twelve hours.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
The unofficial start of summer. But you're getting a good
start on the tan. Will that turn into tan?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
No, No, it's gonna bluster and it's gonna be That's okay,
But well maybe maybe I don't know. We'll see. It's
like the metamorphosis. We'll see what. We'll see what happens there.
But Memorial Day weekend, obviously we take a moment to
raise our respective cups of coffee and whatever you've got
in front of you to in tribute to those who

(02:10):
who gave their lives so that we get to talk
about sports, that we get to watch nonsense on the pitch,
yell at officials, yell at each other, keep it safe,
keep it you know, in the spirit of the events.
But all of the veterans and those they lost, right
the families affected, we wrap it in a big hug

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to say thanks as we get to sit here and
talk sports.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Out of those whether it's been near or far, maybe
grandparents and to that aspect, this is the opportunity to
do so. So it is a great weekend again unofficial
start of summer. But just take a little time and
realize why we actually have this three day weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
And we get to watch a lot of sports along
the way between today tomorrow. I mean obviously yesterday I
sat down, you were in the chair talking with old
and Polony says, the Timberwolves and the thunder got underway,
and I know you guys, we were both on team Minnesota. Yeah,
to get a W I just want a game. Is

(03:11):
that too much to ask. It's not to a basketball
game where I'm not saying, all right, it's halftime. Maybe
I'll check back, maybe I won't.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I think what he said, I just wanted a game.
I think we all knew what you meant. We just
wanted something that was competitive in this series, and I
guess the first half of these games have been as well,
where then Oklahoma City ended up pulling away. But last
night it was never close. It was not close from
the get go. It was all Minnesota last night, but
I felt you could see that coming, Mike. I don't

(03:40):
think that Oklahoma City is as great of a team
as people want them to be or think that they are.
I think that the win the seven game series win
over the Denver Nuggets. People say Denver wanted just a
couple of years ago. We've talked about it here. I'm
not sure how great Denver is. I think they pose
unique matchup for teams. But Oklahoma City was not going

(04:02):
to run over Minnesota because a I just Oklahoma City
had a great regular season, Mike. But they're just not
going to sweep a team. It's just not going to happen.
And Minnesota is much better than I think people were
giving them credit for. I think people just felt like
they got a pass because Steph Curry got hurt in
the last round and the Lakers are what the Lakers are.

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But Minnesota was here last year at this point. Anthony Edwards,
to me, is a better player there's more of a commitment,
seems to be a different energy with Julius Randall. And
then last night shake Gildos Alexander isn't getting the calls,
and I'll tell you what, there wasn't even time for
him to get calls because it was a twenty point
lead at the end of.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
The they got blitzed. Yes, So it was philosophies, change
what you need to do. Because the thunder hadn't been
living or dying by the three point shot right living
in the mid range, they had to put up forty
four to three point shots to attempt to try to
shoot their way back into the game, which clearly did
not work. Live betting, I was watching the marketplace very

(05:03):
entertaining and I'm sure a lot of people chasing, okay,
see money that lost at every point along the way.
And what turned out to be a one forty three
one oh one final, well, even.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Even with that, and it was it was something that
because Olden and I were on during the game last night,
you're kind of trying to take a guess and a
stab at what is what has happened or what could happen.
It's a thirty point lead at halftime, Mike, and the
ten points between thirty and twenty are enormous because if
you go on a little run to start the second half,

(05:34):
you're within twelve if it's a twenty point game, which
is exactly what Oklahoma City did. The problem was, again
they were down by thirty, so they only got it
down to twenty two, you know, So there's it's like
you didn't even feel close at that point, even though
you were able to chip away at it a little,
and then it just completely got away with them from
them in the next three, four or five minutes. But
there is a difference, and it's been what we've seen

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in the playoffs, right Celtics Knicks, we've seen those comebacks before.
We saw it with Pacers Nicks in Game one and
the comeback in Indiana had we feel like, no lead
is safe right now in the NBA playoffs. And so
that's why last night, I don't know what the live
lines were, but to your point of them being very curious,
I can believe that one hundred percent because I think

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people felt, all, okay, see can put a run together.
Look what they did in the first two games. It
just was not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Like I saw a couple you know, thirty four, thirty
six and a half and crept out. I stopped paying
attention because again, there's only so much like I had
it on it. It became the second screen experience to
Law and Order SVU rerun from fifteen years ago, as
you went on like, nah, I'm done with this. It's
in the background, But it was funny in the second

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half as okay See starts to make the run. I
don't know that I've ever heard broadcasters sell to keep
you in watching the game harder than they did during
that ten point little run that okay Se had, like oh,
here they go. We know that, you know they can
score in bunches, and hear it like no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is so funny in those those blowout games, Mike
on what you feel like, hey, we are actually calling
it like they didn't have a chance. The crew last
night didn't even have a chance to really talk about
a competitive game, so it may have looked like it
was competitive and tier point. It was only in a
ten point run, But it is funny. I noticed that
in a lot of NCAA tournaments, especially when you see

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in a first round game and you'll say mount Saint
Mary's has trimmed this to twenty four. You know, like
this this is a this is a forty point game.
But Mount Saint Mary's on a bit of a run.
Here we got a twenty four point game and there's
a lot of ball left to play, and you're like,
all right, okay, we get it.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
That becomes the You really just need the running live
betting line from whoever you partnered with, like bet MGM
or you would just have that in the bottom left
and you're just watching and just acknowledge it in a
blowout scenario. Yea. Hey, for those of you that are
still looking to be have some interest in this game,
here we go Curiosity. Though Julius ran after a no

(08:00):
show Game two, comes back with a bigger effort, finishes
with twenty four and Anthony Edwards we've watched his I
guess the term would be assertiveness, the EBB and flow
of that right where he's either in an attack mode
and yesterday, what was it fifteen five and two in
the first quarter, I mean, just an insane stat line.

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Finishes with thirty on the night. But like that, that's
the guy that everybody keeps waiting for on a consistent basis.
And you know, we talked about SGA on the grander
scale four thirteen four or four from the foul line
and never really able to get into even though they
were cheering the foul merchant, fun and excitement in Minnesota,

(08:43):
It's like it never became a factor again because you're
down twenty and starting to chase.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I don't want to sound like an idiot because and
I do it a lot, so please it happens, you don't.
I don't want to sound like an idiot.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
That market corner pal, I got plenty of those.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
But I just I think Game four is so huge
mic because I don't think Game five is officiated like
games one and two, and I don't think that shake
Gildess Alexander gets the calls that he gets in those
first two games. In a Game five, where a series
is tied up at two a piece, I think it
becomes a completely different series. And that's the obvious part.

(09:21):
That's the captain obvious part. But I think what people
would think is, well, Oklahoma City won their first two
games at home, Minnesota defended home court. This is going
seven games because the other team can't win on the
other team's court, and I don't agree with that. And
unlike Oklahoma City was last night, Minnesota at times was competitive.
They were competitive in Game one, they had a lead

(09:42):
in the second half in Game one, it was early
before Oklahoma City went on a run. But so at
least the Timberwolves have showed themselves that they can play
in it. This series is far from over. I absolutely
think Minnesota can win this series. Game four tomorrow night
just becomes that much bigger because, for obviously reason two,
two and three one is different. But if it's two

(10:02):
to two, I'm not sure how much of an edge
goes to Oklahoma City because I just think that that
game is called differently.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, see a three and a half point favorite for
Game four as we sit here early on the Sunday.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
So I think we're last night too, right before tip
off three and a half points. I'd like. I like Minnesota.
I think Minnesota is good. I'm not saying they're perfect,
but I just I think that they're a better team
than we give them credit for.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Good depth, get it, get some extra bonus effort. I
mean Alexander Walker de Vincenzo only had six points, was
a non factor. Usually he comes up bigger and NAS
read just like saying, NAS, sure what it is, but
we'd be also remiss we didn't take take the second.
Since we're on SGA. The MVP award announced during the

(10:48):
week and we've all taken our swings at it. I'm
still shocked it was seventy one to twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Thought it would be closer.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I thought it would be closer. I mean, but it's
something that Smith and I and I know you and
I have talked about a lot Dan when we're talking
about narratives, star building and all of those fun things.
SGA was the new shiny toy. Yeah in the marketplace
versus all right, Jokicic was great, might have been greater
than those others. Buddy already won those.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yes, they pushed it across and we talked about it
a little bit less than you said. You guys talked
about it throughout the week. I used the Brady bunch,
he fit the suit, the Greg Brady. I don't know
it's a reference, souit you know missed by a lot,
But I feel that the MVP to have all these
arguments about the MVP to me is just now it's crazy, Mike,

(11:33):
because it is what it is and breaking down what
valuable means and telling us all of Jokic's numbers and
how he should have gotten it. This is the This
is the story of the MVP. Over decades of decades,
there have been many A players who have had better
numbers than the actual winner. But the winner of the
MVP fit the suit. It fit the narrative, it fit

(11:55):
what the NBA wants, and I'm cool with that. I
get it. It's almost Mike, It's all almost a marketing
tool for the NBA and for these players in their career.
How many times do we say, well, Shaq could have
won it, you know, all of those seasons. Michael Jordans
could have won it every season, but it's never been
like that. They'll give it to different guys. Shaq only

(12:16):
won it once, Like, really, there's only one season where
Shaq was the Like, we could have that argument for
so many So instead of getting your underwear and a
bundle over it, just appreciate what it is and understand
that there is zero chance SGA will win it next
year because it will not fit the narrative and he
will not have a He doesn't play the game like

(12:37):
Jokic does they have numbers that allow you to win
it and win it again.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Well, and the beauty of it is it's so grossly undefined.
Ask you what you're voting on, Like you vote based
on what you think MVP is. In this case, it's
a guy on a great team that wins sixty eight games,
so yes, get he gets the nod and again he's
new and different and exciting and a lot of headlines

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and juice towards their squad coming into the playoffs, which,
let's face it, is part of the marketing sales push
of trying to find a next but be just a
we're trying to have a galaxy of stars let alone.
All Right, Well that guy won again.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
If the Spurs win fifty five games next year, guess
what Victor Wambama is going to be in the conversation
and probably would win the m v P.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Gotta be honest, if it is there, I was gonna say,
watch your mouth, but it's okay if you did, it's
more of it's more of is I don't know if
you should watch your mouth or not, because I think
to that point some Bucks fans may be torn on

(13:47):
you know, heart and head says.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
No, question about it at Dan Byron Fox is where
you find him at Buyer Talk. Yes, yes, yes, there
you go, Talk World. I'm over at Harmon Rants. I
think over there at Swallwindome everywhere else. Thanks for being
with us. It's a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday. We've got
Chris and Shay and Ilo with us here in a
beautiful morning. We've got epl all over the place. Boy,

(14:12):
my head is on a swivel as we get things going.
But we'll take it onto the gridiron next. We talk
about college football. A big change that was made as
related to your playoffs for next year, but I think
the underlying story might be even better. We'll talk about
it next year on Fox.

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Speaker 1 (14:42):
Hey, welcome back in Happy Memorial Day, weekend, start of summer,
end of school. A lot of graduations out there. Congratulations,
get a job.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
My niece graduated yesterday. Congratulations to my niece Lindsey. Congratulation
in Wisconsin. I'll be back next weekend to celebrate when
they have a party.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Party time. Yes, nicely done. Yeah, seeing all the cool
cap and gowns, all the speakers, Kermit the Frog speaking
at Maryland made all of those things. Uh, just absolutely brilliant.
As we we get into the summer months and can
travel and everything.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yet and I asked the how how does he How
do they bring out Kermit the Frog? You have obviously
have to walk on stage? Is it just do they
just show the guys he or is he covered? Is
how do you do it?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm getting him on the stage, I guess.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, I'm sure we only see like the speaking like
portion of it.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
But yeah, I mean because he's got the you know,
the letters and the robes and everything, and the in
the hat. But I guess the puppeteers, you know, shrouded,
you know, maybe you put a black curt.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Over the top of him behind it like Taylor Swift
and the you know as you wheel.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, machine carts and all that fun stuff. Uh but yeah,
it's it's fun to see that, right, Find your wins
one of the mantras of things, So you celebrate little
victories as you go, and certainly milestones like graduations. The
positive side of our world because it's easy to get
lost in some of the negativity. Give some love to

(16:15):
the accomplishments, just like the NC Double A and the
college football world where we're talking about the inevitability of
the expansion to sixteen teams in the playoffs. In the interim,
we have an announcement this week, Dan that changes up
how the seating will work. We had the automatic bids
for conference champion, a lot of consternation and handwringing. It's like, well,

(16:39):
you're not equal to the others, right, some less than others.
You're conference champion, but really in name only when we
look at a Boise State as opposed to the gauntlet
of the SEC or the Big Ten, and then the
seedings and the matchups that then transpired your ohouse State
Buckeyes and their road, the Oregon Ducks and their road

(16:59):
that we want how that flowed, so we now get
the change moving forward of all right, your final voting
final pole becomes the all right, here's the top four.
Those are the four that get the buye regardless of
the conference affiliation, which makes perfect sense the logic. It's

(17:20):
something we were talking about, kind of the seeding that
didn't go forward in the NFL that we talked about
about last week of all right, you want a lot
of games you get there on merit versus you know,
having a secondary situation or in the case of the
NFL wildcard versus divisional winners. Here it's top four regardless

(17:40):
of which conference you represent.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, this was my question as we look into the
change to this. It makes sense, It makes a lot
of sense to make this change. But Mike, do you
think it was because of Boise State and them getting
the buy that they got or do you think it
was because of what Oregon had to deal with in

(18:02):
playing Ohio State in the quarterfinals, Because I think that
they were both They were both really big man like.
I don't want to say matchups or staffos or Arizona
State getting the bid to have the first round by
because of them winning the Big twelve. But I think
it had to be either Boise State and it had

(18:22):
to either be Oregon, because I think Oregon fans are like, great,
we get to face Ohio State, who is in our conference,
in our quarterfinal game when they record wise may have
said differently, but ended up showing they were a national
championship caliber team. I tend to think that it's more

(18:43):
about Boise State, But I think that just as strong
of an argument could be made to make sure that
your number one seed doesn't have to run through that
gauntlet like Oregon had to.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I would say it's the latter more for the the
power of the brand of the conference, et cetera. Right again,
owing to the idea of college sports has always been
a giant business. So anybody that's trying to convince you
that it's a recent development has been you know, hiding,

(19:16):
you know, their head in the sand, or just they
just want to give you a disingenuous argument. It's always
been about the money that moves, how many exposs Maybe
that's the wrong word, but giant profiles of Phil Knight
and the Oregon machine. Have we seen the uniform and
everything else, And it's not, you know, to single that

(19:36):
they happen to be affected here. But I think it's
the larger case of we're looking at the power conferences
and the weight that they hold and the television revenue
that they generate. So I guess, into the long winded way,
I guess it would be about Boise State saying you're
not there.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Sure. I think they gave Boise State and that big
too big of a piece of cake, if you will
go sure like of what they of what they gave up,
they were fine. And and again, and it's nothing against
Boise State, because Boise State did something that I don't
think that we thought was possible. We thought that a

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group of five school would get in. We didn't realize
that the acc and the Big twelve would struggle the
way that they did, and that Boise would continue their
their climb up. Because Boise wasn't even the lowest of
the teams that got by or the schools that got buys.
They were the three seed. It was on a State
ended up being the four seed in that bracket. So
but I think what they realized was, okay, wait a second,

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how did we get to a point where all of
a sudden, Boise State is now the third ranked team
when they've played in these in these in this bracket,
when they've ended up playing and having their best game
be a close loss to Oregon, Like that's what it was.
And so I think that you had to change that.
They're fine with Boise State playing or whoever of the

(21:02):
group of five is in the first round. I actually
think it would even have been better if they would
just have been the four seed, but I think them
being the three seed you thought, Okay, we kind of
did this wrong here, let's take another look at it.
And the big ten in the SEC holds a lot
of power, and we know that the format's going to
change after twenty twenty six again, but it's I think

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Boise State was the impetus on why they're like, let's
just go to straight seeding next year. That'll make everything easy.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
And then you have the fun and excitement of Notre
Dame kind of always swirling an omnipresent when they have
those run ups right where they have consistency, because again
we're talking about power clout and what puts butts in seeds,
eyeballs on your TV and makes the cash register ring.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yes, absolutely, and I think you can manipulate the rankings
and that sounds like a negative thing, but it's actually
a positive thing. Like again, the Oregon Ohio State matchup.
You're bound to have this, especially if you're gonna have
four Big ten teams in a bracket and four SEC schools.
But it just was a bad matchup for Oregon. Oregon
would rather have played maybe not Penn State because they've

(22:03):
played in the week before. But they would rather have
probably played Texas if they you know, if they had
their drothers, they would have probably rather played Notre Dame,
you know, if they had their opportunity to take a
winner from the you know, from the first weekend and
move on. Instead, they had to play a team that
had an ax to grind with them, that was a
conference opponent and could match the talent. And I think

(22:24):
that now when you look at it, Mike, when you
have a bracket, you could be like, oh, we could
have a whole big ten bracket here at eight, nine
and one. Well, let's move this team to seven and
this team to ten and then we'll figure it out
from there. So they actually gained flexibility and manipulating the bracket,
which I don't think is a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Well, because you also have the back end of the bracket.
This is where I want a live you know, Big
Brother House kind of reality show, because you have at
the back end at least while we're still at twelve,
there's another five or six teams that can make their
argument for one of those last lots because we get
a lot of those whatever nine and two, nine and three, eight,

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and three kind of schools. So now it becomes a
big fight again owing to the SEC Big Ten, number four,
number five team versus others saying hey, we want we
want a piece of that pie. Because as that's ever expanding,
those arguments and resume building and fights become an even
more captivating back end. Yeah to the bracket as much

(23:24):
as figuring out those first.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Four Well that's the other The other spinoff and the
story this week is as they look for the new
format of the college football Playoff, the Big Ten and
the SEC saying if they get four automatic bids into
the new bracket, which would be a fourteen team bracket.
If you had those leagues getting four bids, they're willing

(23:49):
to put their third best team against their six best
team to have playing games almost like a conference tournament
esque sort of feel for college basketball to fight for
that automatic bid. And I think that that's great for
college football. I would love to see if you are
a third seeded team or a sixth seeded team in
your conference play that game. It adds value, but it

(24:12):
also doesn't just give a team a free pass for
getting into a bracket when maybe they didn't deserve it.
If you had play in games like that, I think
that would be great and it wouldn't be looked at
as like the first four. There would actually be value,
there'd be TV stuff behind it. I thought it was
a really good week for college football, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, I like that wrinkle to it a ton, because well,
now you don't have to have your one in two
teams in your conference to where maybe that loss sends
them tumbling down the rankings. Yeah, not just one or
two spots, but potentially out of that top four down
into the you know, seven eight kind of because I've
in looking where Ohio State was right coming up as

(24:52):
an eight seed. Yeah, based on the way you did
the fuzzy math here this last year, and which is
why you get changed, right, you try it and you
figure out the next iteration here. Now, Okay, those two
teams are in, and then everybody battles and does what
they need to and then we get winners, we get
extra games, playoff mode, winner take all. I mean, it's

(25:14):
everything we hope for in late November into December, all
these weeks where we have a lot of inactivity anyway,
and at an age when everybody decries the existence of
bowl games as.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
A well, yes, and I think, Mike, if you look
at and compared it to college basketball, where I'm not
saying conference tournaments have become bowl games, but I think
on the because they haven't. They haven't. But when John
Calipari at Arkansas is happy to lose their first round
game in the SEC and they're a team that's kind

(25:46):
of on the bubble, well they were in, but they
I mean they were going to be in and he's
happy to not have to go and play four games
in four days, it kind of puts a bit of
a stain on conference tournaments and what's the real reason,
and what's the real reason for the top teams? Like
what Duke Cooper flight suffers an ankle injury, So like

(26:07):
is Duke loving the conference tournament?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
But you know who the conference tournament is valuable for.
It is valuable for those teams that are on the bubble,
those lesser teams, maybe not the top teams. And that's
exactly what college football is doing is saying, all right, three, four, five,
and six, if you're the big ten in the SEC
and you have those games, now there is something to
play for. It would be kind of kicking out the
top two teams in a college basketball conference championship game.

(26:32):
But if you're the ACA se and you only have
four bids, yeah, maybe you need North Carolina to make
a run in that to get in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well, we always chuckle my brothers and I for going
back many years watching the Big Ten Conference and the
bubble watch for teams, and then you watch the final
week or two of the schedules, like, boy, that one
looks like why don't you wait? It's like no, no, no, no, no,
wait for the whistles, kind of like we were talking
about with the NBA and the tim and the Thunder.

(27:02):
Not that it ever became an issue again the Timberwolves
blitz it, but going into the games like, all right,
it'll be a different environment in different whistle, different process
as you're in in Minnesota, and we used to always
last like the team shouldn't win. But suddenly you know,
they're back to five hundred in conference. They had a
soft non conference and suddenly they're right back in the mix.

(27:23):
And that team that they beat, guess what they're comfortably
in as a three.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Se Sure, absolutely, there's there's so much at play this
can only be good for college football, and it's on
a smaller scale, but I do find I do find
comparisons to college basketball on how this could be a
good thing for college football.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
And we'll get two stacks of playoffs.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I mean, come on, right, that's all that we ask for.
And they're not disguised as playing games. Like if you're
an Iowa team and you're sitting there on the sixth spot,
all right, or a Wisconsin squad or USC and the
Big Ten, and you have an opportunity to break through,
but you just got to go to Penn State, or
go to Columbus and beat all Io State, or go
to Eugene and beat Oregon. Like, yeah, that's great theater.

(28:05):
That's great TV to watch.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It's what we're always looking for, some more theater. We
got theater of the absurd. Next hour, as we continue,
it's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio here from our
Los Angeles studios. He's Dan Buyer at Dan Byron Fox.
Find me over at Swollen Dome as we roll on,
full action on the pitch, the Indy five hundred, Major
League Baseball, all these things already underway, So that means

(28:27):
we have to go to a very crowded, loud news
desk with our guy Isaac Low and crawl what's going on?

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Hello, my hello Dan. Thanks for doinguts earlier. Sorry. I
had a little summer take.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
USA, taking this celebration of the country, and I should
have done a dozen. I totally miss Just like they
misread Boise State, I misread the room.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
No, trust me. One was enough.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
The combination of caffeine and sugar coursing through my veins
as we speak in anticipation of an amazing day sports,
particularly in Indianapolis, where we're eight minutes away from the
one hundred and ninth running of the Indianapolis five hundred
for The star of the pre race festivities was former
NFL tight end and current Fox Sports TV analyst the

(29:16):
irrepressible Rob Gronkowski. On the Fox Pre Race Show, chronicled
the atmosphere in the infield as only he can.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
That is absolutely fondits down here find out with DJ
it's going absolutely half playing fanners.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
All dary long energy.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It's absolutely electric.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
The ladies are showing that watermelons all past.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
God say you everywhere this is a party.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
Can I've seen every party in the world and that's
the biggest nic I.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Sege since what stopped in nineteen sixty nine. For the record,
Gronk was not born until nineteen eighty nine, but who's
counting then. Tonight at Indianapolis, it's Game three of the
Eastern Conference Finals with the Pacers leading the New York
Knicks two games to none. Stanley Cup playoff today at
three Eastern Game three of the Western Conference Final from Edmonton,
with the Oilers and Dallas Stars tied at one win

(30:07):
apiece and one Major League Baseball game we're keeping our
eye on right now the Detroit Tigers with a four
to nothing lead over Cleveland in the bottom of the
fourth inning. But Detroit pitcher Trek Scouble has not allowed
a hit or a base runner through four innings. He
has five strikeouts already.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Back to you guys, Scooble getting after had Isaac Longgraw
where you fight and catch the highlights from the Angels
City FC match from yesterday. Dan, We've got the action
all over the week.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
We do, and it is in the Premier League Final
day and a big happening just occurred. Top five now
gets you into the Champions League. So there is this
mumble jumble sitting there at four, five, six and seven
and Newcastle right now, who would have a gold differential

(30:55):
advantage over these clubs, over Astonville and Nottingham Forest. Right
now they trail Everton. However, man You has just taken
a one mil lead which completely helps Newcastle as they're
up on aston Villa right now seventy seventh minute. Newcastle

(31:18):
would then be in and aston Villa would be out
of the Champions League if that was the case. If
these scores.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Hold great little lob towards the side of the net
and a header back the other direction to give the
one nil lead, we literally have five EPL games going
on here in.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
The Yeah, yeah, Chelsea, we'd have more, We'd have more.
There's ten going on right now. Chelsea is up on
Nottingham Forest in the seventy eighth minute one nail, so
that Chelsea was was pretty safe. They needed they would
have to be carnage for them to follow out. But
they're they're in a pretty good spot. But that does
hurt Nottingham Forest because they were kind of in the

(31:55):
mix as well. But Chelsea holding on to that one
nil lead. But right now, Manchester United's goal was the
best News that Newcastle could have.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
I really like how NBC's gone ahead and like co
opted four channels for it, but one of them is
like Southampton Arsenal, which does not matter at all.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Sure, there's the Peacocks dilemma.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
I mean, I get why we're putting Liverpool up there,
and they're they're champions, but like we could absolutely have
had like Man City up on one of them.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And they used to do this, they would have it
on all of it, Like you didn't realize it was
an NBC universal property. Like I've never turned on this
channel before, but it is Sunday Fun Day in the
Premier League, so I guess I'm watching it in late May.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, like True TV during March mad Yeah every year.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yes, sci Fi has got one of the games on
right now. Truly it does because they needed a spot
to put it, but to.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Truly show you where we're at in this season and
how the season has gone. The fact that Man City
wasn't put up as one of the premiere just based
on the star power.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Sure, I also think I also think like it's something
of what Chris was saying with putting putting that match
on Peacock to make you buy it, you know, like
the NFL does, Like, all right, here's the here's here's
where the value is. You're gonna have to subscribe if
you really want to see the good stuff. I guess
that's as American as anything, right, the cap and you're

(33:15):
gonna have to pay for it. He's played for a while, right.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
But you get your one month and then you probably
forget to cancel, kind of like a gym membership. He's
dam Buyer. That's Chris Purfett. Pride in Detroit is his podcast.
Shay our executive producer. Everybody's getting together Isaac Lowan Krohn
because coming up next, ponder this one, if you will.
One isn't necessarily the lowliest number when it comes to

(33:39):
the NBA playoffs, the loneliest number. I changed the no no, no,
I'm I need more coffee. We'll do that as we
continue next year. On Fox you're listening to Fox Sports
Radio Radio. Welcome back, hen It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox
Sports Sunday by Carbon Dan Buyer with you epl Action.

(34:02):
Coming into the final minutes are wrapped. Attention some bangers
here in the last couple of minutes, big goals Salah
and some others denting the back of the net here
as we finished this round of activity, final day of
the EPL. But that's not the only game in town.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Dam it is not the only game in town. It's
time to play the feud. While they're playing on the pitch,
we play in the studio with our Fox family. Mike Harmon,
Chris Purfett, Producer Shay and Isaac Longcrown make up the
Fox Family. Top eleven answers on the board may have
been a bit misleading during the tees, so don't hold
it against me by my fault. No, it does kind
of fit what I want to know. Top eleven answers

(34:42):
on the board. The eleven one team cities in the
four major sports in the United States. Sorry, MLS not working.
We're talking NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL. According to Wikipedia
and by my count, there are eleven eleven one team
cities and this is permanent teams.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay, the United States, not including Canada.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
This is in the United States only, correct, otherwise we'd
be here for a long time. Manchester United just got
a penalty kick, which is really good news for Newcastle.
Moving on, Mike Carmon, you're up passes available if you
guys want it. The one team cities, so cities with
just one professional sports team in it.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Quick clarification question. Are we talking cities proper metropolitan areas?
In case you have a stadium in the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'll just say this, The San Jose Sharks are part
of the Bay Area. Okay, gotcha, So it's the best.
Santa Niners are in Santa Clara Giants are in San Francisco.
That's that's one area. So go ahead. Memphis, Memphis, show
me Memphis Grizzlies. Yes, one of the mb NBA teams

(35:56):
with that title. Over to Chris Purfett. All right, Portland
Portland gotta be the Trailblazers, right, show me the Trailblazers
and Portland, Yes, Portland Trailblazers. Over to producer Shay.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I feel like you're right now, Isaac. I don't they
take the two out of my mouth?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Come on, it can't be that difficult, Shay. Do you
want to use the pass right now?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I feel like I shouldn't. Why am I not thinking
right now? Because it's tough. No, there's I can't say that, Chris.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, there's a really easy one. Sports.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
That's fine. I got you, I got you. Can I
go yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Oh wait, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna I gotta
reveal an answer and I can't. And I just don't
know if I'm gonna be difficult or you know what,
I'll reveal it after Isaac gives his answer. San Diego,
San Diego, Show me San Diego. And because Shae used
the pass, I'm gonna be kind to you guys. I'm
gonna give you Columbus. Columbus.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I guess Ohio State does count as a pro sports.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Good point, all right, Mike carmen Hey.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
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Speaker 2 (37:23):
Permanent, I mean permanent, okay, permanent teams San Antonio show
me San anton Yes, Remember the Alamo, Remember the Spurs,
of the only team playing in that city. Over to
Chris Perfett, the Green Bay Packers, show me Green Bay.
All right, over to Shaye. Oh god, Okay, come on, Shay,

(37:49):
come on, Shay.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
There's so many Okay, Chris, I'm sorry, San Antonio, Memphis.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Portland, Green.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Memphis, Isaac, Okay, I just all right, that's first strike.
Because the A's are just the athletics. I'm gonna go Sacramento.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Is that is?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Show me Sacramento. That's the permanent part about it. A's
are playing them and we're not considering them a resident
of Sacramento. They are just renting at this time. All right,
back around to my Carmen. Orlando, Oh, making it a
peer out of a hat. Show me Orlando. There they are,
the Orlando Magic looking for two or three. Left Over

(38:34):
to Chris Perfett.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I'm going to leave an easy one on the board
for Shay to hopefully.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Very patronizing Los Vegas. Is it Las Vegas Raiders and
Golden Knights?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yes, yes, Okay, I'm an idiot.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
That's okay.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I left easy one.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
So all right, Shay, it's all It's all on the
line here, Shaye. Think of the playoffs. Okay. See show
me Oklahoma City.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Okay, the reason is there all right?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Over to failure. Over to Isaac long Crown, by the way,
go ahead.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
Isaac, Carolina Hurricanes, show me Raleigh.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yes, not a part of Charlotte. Don't think about it.
The last one in the NFL. Over to Mike Carmen,
Oh boy, last one in the NFL. The last one.
It's in the National Football League?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
What am I doing?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Manchester United's up two mil.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
This is the hardest one you've done, Jacksonville, show me
Carman has his head. I just wanted to make you
old check it.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
Oh you said Vegas.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Every continue we got you watch back into the NBA playoffs.
He's dad. I'm like, that's the crew we're rolling on.
It's Fox Sports Sundown, Box Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in.
It is a championships league championship Sunday in the Premier League.
Can I get the words out? All sorts of celebrations
on the pitch against It's all over done. As soon

(40:15):
as they show the handshakes on the sideline. I don't
even need to hear the whistleman, because I know it's
a final.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
We've known that's a final. That Liverpool was winning the
Premier League. They'll get to lift the trophy in a bit.
But we know who has qualified for the Champions League. Liverpool, Arsenal,
Man City, Chelsea. There's some doubt with man City and
Chelsea entering today, more so with Chelsea than man City.
And Newcastle is in the top five gold differential beating

(40:46):
Aston Villa, who lost to man U Avey was down
to ten men for a majority of this match. Manchester
United wins two nil. Newcastle lost to Everton one nil,
but Newcastle advances on gold DIFFERENTI goal differential.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I always love when we start getting into the tie
breakers and figured it out. I just ride it out,
grind it out, park the bus, get that game done.
So we're watching all these matches and they all ended
within one or two minutes. So it's fun seeing the
handshake lines and all of these fun things and celebrations
as you go through. So yeah, Liverpool is your first
place squad. As we get into the rest of the

(41:25):
day's actions, Tigers with a five to nothing lead on Cleveland.
Cleveland with a couple of men on here in the
sixth inning, full slate of action Indy five hundred. As
you heard from Ilo is delayed. That'll be on Fox.
You can catch all the pre race activities, probably have
some montages of races gone by. Right now as you're

(41:46):
in the delay, you're here Fox Sports Sunday with us
Mike Carman, Dan Byer with you, having a blast as
we get ready for a full holiday holiday holiday weekend
of activity. Later on we get the Knicks and the
Pacers curiosity. For me, it's been a whirlwind. Those that
have been with us a while know that my evening

(42:08):
partner seven eleven Pacific here on Fox Sports Radio is
a lunatic Knicks fan, and he's been resigned that they're
going to get swept. Resigned like to.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
That as as of when, like was it after game one?
Or was it when they when they blew the lead?
Was it when Haliburton's shot was midway in the air
and going down? Was he resigned or when did he
say now they're getting swept.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
As soon as it was done? As soon as soon
as I finished that first game? Like that was it right?
The way? You you lose that game? And you can
find the podcast up. I'll encapsulate the the two lines here,
but if you want to hear a man die a
little bit on air and the emotions of a fan.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Can we I know, I know Shay has stepped out,
but I want to hear this. I have not heard this.
I don't know if we can. It was you guys
were on the air when the shot went up.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Oh yeah, I feel like it.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Was probably in your show window, but I didn't know
if what the reaction was. I want to I want
to hear this now.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
No, he's put on a brave face and even Friday
it's like they're getting swept. And then I came in
and I was asked Ian our podcast. Ian Roddy are
our podcast producer for the iWatch Flex podcast. He was
in the producer's chair, a normal producer, Justin prossberg Off,
and Ian goes, so, what do you want to happen
tonight before the game tips off? And I was like, well,

(43:30):
either way, it's gonna be a weird four hours because
if they win, now the Knicks are back and life
is good. But if they lose, Man suling in, despair
has set in. So you know, when you lose.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Like that, that's the that's thee.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
And that was his larger, larger argument to it is
that no matter who you are in any walk of life,
when you have something that is that jarring, right, and
you can go job loss, you can go relationship change,
loss of a parent, loss of a loved one, friend,
something in the news that just affects you. You know,

(44:07):
everybody responds differently, but something that jarring, you're not just
oh okay, it was one game turned the page and
that was his larger point that he professed. And it's
a longer discussion point to it, but it's it's a curiosity.
Right now that you've had another couple of days, it's
in the rear view now. I gave them benefit of
the doubt, thinking, all right, you got Brunson, you got

(44:30):
the mindset of what this Knicks team is supposed to be,
that they would come out and put up an effort,
and they did, right. I mean, it's not like these
two games are blowouts. Now the first one should have been. Yeah,
but you know there's gonna be a run, right, it's
not quite the college basketball. Well, all right, set your
clock by when there's suddenly a run. The crowd gets excited,

(44:51):
you know, the officials get caught up maybe in the
a little bit of the emotion of a home crowd
wherever NBA. Maybe not quite the same way, but you
watch that lead diss pate. You know, there's the famous
episode of The Simpsons with Lisa and little Ralph Wigham.
I don't you choose me?

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, we have Tom Brady.
We had Tom Brady in an Indy car just a
second ago.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Here.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
I couldn't see it, your back was to the TV.
But I was completely thrown off by seeing Tom Brady
in an IndyCar.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
And now we have Michael Strahan and in indigar. This
is some next level stuff. That's a lot of guys.
I mean, which is better these guys? And and look
this is on Fox. All love, but it's part of
the Fox property. Over the last couple of days, that
Wiener Mobile race was one of the greatest things I've
ever seen in my life. Right, we get the video
boards in Stadia across the world, right, the hat flips

(45:41):
and you know, three card Monty with the ball caps,
and then the race, depending on what it is. We
get the human Sausage race in Washington, and certainly in
Milwaukee and in Chicago they've had Ken Harrelson racing Carlton
Fist for years. But that Wiener Mobile.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Man, the Wiener Mobile, I know that there was one
in Madison, Wisconsin. There. I don't believe the Oscar Meyer
factory is there anymore, but there there was a Wiener
mobile that saw in the regular mic and it's one
of those things that you took for granted because it
was a part of your life. The factory was on
the east side of town. But I don't know if
it was like the Goodyear blimp, where like there's just

(46:20):
one place where they have the.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
One that we had down here. What's gonna happen if
they put a stadium there, what happens the good Year.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
I don't know. I don't know if they are like
other Wiener Mobile locations throughout the country. I believe that
there are, but I just don't know. I wasn't sure
about that.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
But all of a sudden you got six of them
on a tracks. The slaw Dog with the big run
down the stretch to to claim victory.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I missed. I missed the race. I heard about it,
I did not see it.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Well.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
They did the pregame instead of the national anthem, they
sang the Oscar Mayer Wieners. People looked a little confused.
I wish I were Oscar.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, I'll say I'll say this that the if it
was anything like Game one, then that Weader Mobile race
had to be amazing.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, so a long story and we saw I'm oh, no,
that's fantastic, because look we're trying to take it all in.
There's a lot going on and we try to bring
you every little bit of it. Here Fox Sports Sunday,
Fox Sports Radio Live here from the Fox Sports Radio
studios in Los Angeles, at Dan Byron Fox, at Buyer Grams,
at Buyer Talk, find Me over at Swollen Dome, and

(47:29):
at Harmon Rants.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I compared while Jason thought the series was over, I
compared it to the World Series, and I don't think
that they're alike. I felt when Freddy Freeman hit the
Grand Slam in Game one against the Yankees, series over.
It was Game one over, but series over. There's no
way the Yankees were gonna rebound from that. That was
the game that they needed to steal. And I felt
that the Dodgers were just the better team that ultimately

(47:51):
they would they would win the series, and they did.
Now the Yankees blew their own five to nothing lead
later on in the series, but it wasn't like it
went seven. I thought that the Knicks could bounce back.
To your point of this is a team that had
a ten point lead in that game, a fourteen point
lead in that game. They were just two minutes away.
They just couldn't close it out. They showed that they

(48:11):
not only can play with Indiana, but that they were
better than they were, and then they lose what is
ends up being a coin flip game. I just I
don't know if they can beat Indiana four times now
in five games. And I think they could win in Indianapolis.
I think that the Knicks could win tonight, Mike, But
I don't think and they're not gonna get swept. The

(48:33):
Knicks will win a game, either Game three or four.
But I just I don't think that it's a foe
gone conclusion that you go back to the Garden and
the Knicks win that game. And I don't know how
it could be after what happened in games one and two.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Two point line and I pacers a narrow two point
home favorite line might tell you a little something there,
just based on what we've watched these last two games,
We talked about it last hour with the Timberwolves and
Julius Randall, a no show in Game two and a
nice bounce back in what ended up being a forty

(49:05):
two point burial of the Thunder last night Saturday night.
You might have missed it. I can say this, unless
you're a Timberwolves fan. You didn't miss much. No, you
didn't miss much. That game was over very quickly. But similarly,
you had a no show effort in game two for
Karl Anthony Towns, who sat down a lot of the

(49:26):
fourth quarter in a tight game, right to where he's out.
And now Josh Hart, who struggled mightily the first two games,
he talked about, well, we need more Mitchell Robinson. Guess
what he's taking your minutes? Sure, And that's the latest
report out of New York is that you're gonna see
a lot more Mitchell Robinson, rebounder, defender offensively. Look, he's

(49:50):
a put bad guy and fifty percent every trip to
the foul line is an adventure. I mean, it's the
new version of hack a shack with him out there.
But you gotta find a spark And for Thibodeau, when
you've only go seven deep, you gotta find something from
those other two.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, I don't know where you're gonna find it, I
mean truly, like you know. Yeah, and Cameron Payne is
now gonna be the is your number eight, So he's
gotten a little bit more, got a little bit more
minutes in game two, but they're not McBride and Payne
are guards. You have nobody else in the front court

(50:28):
to be able to do anything, So you're gonna have
to get something defensively from Karl Anthony Towns. Game one, Yeah,
could have been his thirty five points, but like what
the the lasting images that I have are just the
the shots in overtime, the ones that don't go down.
And then to your point of him not even being
in the game, and Mitchell Robinson's free throw shooting again

(50:50):
is such a story with him because of how awful
it is. But I said out a tweet just a
couple of weeks ago, at it it's probably a backhanded compliment,
maybe not the best way to frame it for Mitchell Robinson,
but it's amazing to me that someone could be in
the NBA and shoot free throws like that. And what
I mean by that is he's so good defensively and

(51:12):
rebounding that it doesn't matter on what he shoots because
he's so good in those in those areas and finds
value and that's a that's a tip of the cap.
But Mikey can't do it all by himself, so you
need Karl Anthony Towns to do something. Siakin was great
in Game two, but Miles Turner was really good in
Game two for Indiana as well. And I would expect
those guys to continue to have better games in games

(51:35):
three and four if the Knicks are not going to
provide any resistance inside well.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
And and that's the curiosity, right, the rotations of it.
And we look, we chronicled a lot of regular season
NBA I know, uh for for some hosts and and
for some listeners, it's the I'll see in April, but
watching it throughout the year, and certainly sitting next to
Smith watching a lot of Knicks games, Like Karl Anthony
Towns was never a guy that committed on the defensive

(52:01):
side of things, so it was always gonna be an
oil and water kind of thing with him and Tibbs.
And there have been spots where you've seen commitment toward
trying to close out. But going back to that and
melt down in game one, a lot of what had
transpired was him not getting an extra step out. Sure
in game two even more that early on of him

(52:22):
getting absolutely berated getting to the sidelines of I got
you gotta at least give me an effort. Yeah, right,
when Miles Turner kind of gets to spin the ball
how he wants, he's standing in the corner looking around, like,
all right, if nobody's gonna come out, I'll take the
open shot. Like look, I can't shoot for anything anymore.
But given six or seven seconds before someone even looks

(52:42):
at me to close out, or it seemingly six or
seven seconds, like yeah, I can hit that shot too.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
It's it's funny and how disproportionate the Knicks are because
they do have pieces, and you talk about guys stepping up,
but the lack of defense from Karl Anthony Towns. It
also goes the other way to see how much is
on the shoulders of Jalen Brunson in those late game situations.
And now with the Pacers when you got to deal
with ball handling and dealing with their pressure and you

(53:09):
got to create your own shot and create your own offense.
It's there's just a lot on his shoulders and he
looks like he's carrying, you know, a three hundred pound
weight on his shoulders as he's playing these games because
everything is on him and there's there's only so much
that he can do. Somebody else has to step up
because they're gonna get they will get swept. If it's

(53:31):
one against five.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
He's Dan Bayer, I'm Mike Carmen. Later on Game three,
that's a five pm Pacific tip off. There, we've got
baseball on the diamond. Michael Strahan getting ready to ride
an Indy car as we have a delay in the
Indy five hundred on Fox, so that race coming a
little bit later on. We had a full, action packed
start to the day with everything in the EPL, and

(53:55):
I have to close by just saying I always appreciate
that there are teams now Nottingham, Forest and Newcastle don't
necessarily associate either with soccer. But maybe a little bit
to your holiday. Maybe you're watching some old animated films,
maybe you're enjoying a nice frosty beverage.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
It works, It works well in the Premier League for sure.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
So many levels. Hey, you can stream this show. Are
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(54:39):
family about it. Ungaria's globally. That's right. Tell all your
friends and family that live abroad that they can have
a little piece of the USA here on this Memorial
Day weekend. He's damn byra On by Carmen. Coming up next,
the theater of the Absurd continues. Will a certain someone
show up in Latrobe and just couple of weeks we'll

(55:00):
talk about that because he's laying no more heads, just
get it done. We'll talk about it. X Outfox. I'm
now starting bidding. I want that Brady helmet from the
fastest rac he got earth, the Indie five hundred. As
he rolls around the track.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I'll say, hey, Fox is putting him to work, right.
This isn't just a football season. Thing, Tom, No, it's it.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
You want it in, you're in.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
But he is driving the car.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
He is.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
That's not because he can't fit two people in the
in the vehicle. He is driving the car.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Now. It's one of those things. We referenced it before
the Weenie five hundred, right, the race of six wienermobiles. Man,
how about you make that an experience like you have
the Richard Petty experience and what they've done for years.
We can go and drive around the track. I'll drive
a Wiener mobile. I'll go pay the hundred bucks for
the hour. Come on, train me how to drive it.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Oh man, I am now, I am now watching this.
I I saw it. I heard you guys. I heard
people talking. I had well it was a close finish.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Slaw dog down the down that stretch.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
They god like, yes, did is he gonna get there
behind on the stretch?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I still thought that inquiry sign at the Preakness came
down really fast. But hey, uh, there's never been controversy
associated with horse racing at any point. Sarcasm bucket completely full.
Let's go empty that before the next break. He's Dan
byral By Carmen. It's Fox Sports Sunday Fox Sports Radio
from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in southern California.

(56:33):
Coming up have been twenty minutes. Yeah, we'll circle back
to that. Jason Smith, I don't believe what I just
saw audio from Wednesday night game won the crazy comeback
by the Indiana Pacers. But you know, the NFL and
college football and everything. I think it's now thirteen Saturdays
until college football returns. I got enough accounts in the

(56:55):
Twitter verse that now do countdowns on all that.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Day we are now this this weekend was the We
are now closer to the opening week of the NFL
season than we were to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Okay, so we cross that the yard line.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yes we have. It may have been yesterday, Yesterday may
have been the day, but the NFL season will start
on September fourth. The Super Bowl I believe was on
February ninth, So we have made it past that point.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
It's a beautiful thing. We'll get back into fantasy rankings
and all of that stuff soon enough. The Eyewatch Reflex podcast,
we did a five round mock. Obviously there's been some
movement free agency, and you add the draft to it.
We've expanded that run where once upon a time we
didn't include the drafted guys. Now they show up all
over the place. Yes, particularly the running backs. When you're

(57:46):
talking about Hampton, you're talking about gent I do enjoy
the idea of let's have a guy who's dominated, let's
have him change his stance. He's five foot six, Okay,
he needs to stand up, let it go. Okay, he's
a little taller than that.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
But Jim Kelly just trying to put his stamp on things. Right.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
That usually goes well in the in the ultimate of it, right, Look,
it worked out well this past year.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, I think that they're bigger fish to fry, but.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
That's no question. But we got plenty of time to
really break that down. But Aaron Rodgers the ever present,
omnipresent story of the offseason. Look, brock Birdie's contract that
got signed. That's done right, We don't get to worry
about him anymore. But still trying to figure out what
happens in the fun and exciting world of Aaron Rodgers
doing a bunch of appearances and podcasts. Did a long

(58:43):
form thing with Joe Rogan that he was outdoors and
took some Q and A when a precocious youngster decided
to ask a big question. Will Aaron Rodgers ever go
to the Bears security, get her out of her, take
it easy on her.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
No, but I believe there's a team that might play
in Chicago this year a road trip.

Speaker 8 (59:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
We sure got to check it out. Are you speaking
in code? I love Chicago though, way more than they
love me. It's been a great relationship all one way.
Talking about the ownership of the Bears, and when he
said that, and everybody got all up in arms like
it's lying yes, the lying.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Yes, and that that there's no conspiracy theory with that one.
You're absolutely correct. Here's my issue, and Mike, I don't
want to pile on. I don't want to be the
anti Aaron Rodgers the whole time. This is my trouble
in wrapping my head around this. I understand guys not
wanting to be in training camp. That has gone on

(59:51):
many a time, but usually it's for a veteran who
has been with the team for a long time and
can be in a spot where you just plug them
in and play them and they're at their all pro level.
Most of the time. It's left tackle, right. We saw
it with Trent Williams last year wanting a new deal

(01:00:12):
ended up getting his. Walter Jones would never take part
in later training camps with the Seahawks back in the day,
he would show up and be great. But this is different.
This is different with Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, and
I hope it doesn't go on all summer, Mike, I
hope it's not just a July sort of thing. It

(01:00:33):
sure sounds like Rogers is going to the Pittsburgh Steelers
with that comment, and from everything that we have seen
or I guess haven't seen in this offseason, we assume
that that's going to be the plan. Otherwise Pittsburgh would have
to come up with other alternatives outside of Mason Rudolph
and what they have in Pittsburgh. But Mike doesn't Aaron
Rodgers need to be with the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Well, I guess. I guess that's the larger question to me, right,
because we've had it for years where you have these
circumstances in guys either holding out, holding in whatever whatever
term you want to throw on it. Certainly during the
COVID years where there's a question of, oh, you're losing
all this time, but are you really right. Aaron Rodgers reportedly,

(01:01:16):
what was it about six weeks ago was throwing with guys?
Could he be doing that behind the scenes, Like, I
don't track the man. I don't have a Norad tracker
on him. I don't have any any knowledge. But it's
possible that he's been getting guys. And again give him
the benefit of the doubt that he's been getting together
with guys and throwing, because you got to get the

(01:01:37):
rapport with the receivers amove all right. The rest of it.
You've got plenty of time with more mini camps and
training camp to get that timing down because you're not
playing a ton in the preseason anyway, but you're talking,
you know, once you get in, You've got six weeks
or thereabouts from you know, reporting day in Latrobe all
the way through your first game, so there's plenty of

(01:01:57):
time there. I gotta I've gotta think he's not just
sitting on his ass all right, and that there might
be a little more to it than just he's still
just doing his podcast tourism.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I think that and I have no doubt that Aaron
Rodgers can show up and play at the level that
he needs to to well, I take that back. I've
no doubt that Aaron Rodgers can show up and be
a quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just don't know
if he's going to be the best version of that

(01:02:31):
quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, I'm not saying that
he has to go through all of the offseason workouts,
all of these OTA's training camp in the whole deal
and get rep after rep after rep. I think it
would help if he got reps. I think that would
help if he was getting acclimated with new pieces. And

(01:02:54):
I also think, Mike, if this is the swan song,
then why not why not do that? Right? If you're
only gonna play another year in the NFL. Maybe maybe
he's gonna play two and it's different, but this is
the time to do that. And if you are gonna
play two and they're gonna both be with the Pittsburgh Steelers,
then isn't isn't this the year to do that? In

(01:03:14):
the next year, say you know what, I'm gonna take
a little bit of a breather. Know the offense now,
know the players have more. I just I just think
that there has to be some sort of commitment for
as great as he is, everybody else has to catch
up to him. And that's what I would like to see.
I just don't know, if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, how
you can feel one hundred percent comfortable because I don't

(01:03:38):
know anybody that would just be able to just walk
into a completely new situation and have success.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Well, And that's the thing, right, if you're the Steelers,
I mean, part of their their greatness is the hubris
that we do everything right. And for Mike Tomlin again
it's this spot to lie. It ain't pretty, but the
streak exists. Now could they have been? Should they have
won more? In this process? We've talked to you and
I at length of Wow, is this the most disappointing run? Right?

(01:04:07):
Smith and I were talking this week about the the
Oklahoma City Thunder raising up another MVP. It's like it's
an underachieving franchise now for all the guys that have
passed here in terms of actually getting to the promised land.
But the idea with the Steelers, like there hasn't been
postseason success in a long time. So while you may
have the handshake deal with Rogers, I agree, I mean,

(01:04:29):
get in there and get to work. But I could
see it from his side of all Right, everything else
is gonna take care of itself. I need to get
in line with the receivers. You got to change over
a bit in the run game and get yourself acclimated there.
But you're gonna push it off as long as you can. Veteranside,
you know you your point on left, tackles, linebackers, whatever, Right,

(01:04:50):
there's only so much you need to go in and
look running backs. Look at last year, all those guys
were new. Now, it doesn't mean they didn't show up
and learn whatever the blocking schemes they needed to do,
But a lot of that is just predicated on how
great they are. Quarterbacks a different animal for a million
different reasons, and certainly leading a franchise, especially coming off
of what he did in New York. Right when he

(01:05:10):
went to New York, he showed up everywhere. Right, He's
up in the you know, he's at the Statue of Liberty,
he's on Broadway, he's he was a king of New York.
Seemed like, well, there's not a lot in Latrobe and
Pittsburgh that you would go and similarly embrace the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
He was everywhere except when they didn't know where he was,
and that and and that's and that's kind of the
point about this. I'm not gonna blow smoke up anyone's
button say like Aaron Rodgers needs to to be there
and and showed guys like Will Howard how to play
for No, I'm not not at all. I think the

(01:05:48):
Zach Willie Wilson's situation with the Jets was different, where
maybe if Rodgers only plays there a year or two
and you give Wilson his opportunity to then maybe turn
into the quarterback that they hoped. Obviously things didn't work out.
Zach Wilson's no longer there now he's in Miami. So
there's with a stop in Denver in between. There's just

(01:06:12):
I'm not gonna sit there and try to sell you
on goods that I don't believe. I don't think that
Rogers needs to teach the young quarterbacks. I just think
it'd be better for the Steelers and I think it'd
be better for him. And if his career does end
in early January of twenty twenty six, that means you've
got seven plus months of your career left. Like that's
that's not a big ask. With hav like just to

(01:06:34):
be there at these points. I just I don't think
it's a great look and I don't think it's a
great message. And listen, Arthur Smith's offense has also been
one that's been criticized at times, And so how do
we know how much how much yeah, how much do
we know that Rogers likes it? Or how much can
he tweak? Like all of this would just benefit the

(01:06:55):
Pittsburgh Steelers, And I don't know how you can feel
comfortable if your pit's having Aaron Rodgers alluding that he's
going to be playing for them this year, but just
not taking part in just not being there I think
for optics would be great, but he doesn't care about optics,
so I'm even willing to give him a pass on that.
I just think that you need to at least be

(01:07:15):
there and do some stuff with the team.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
As soon as he shows up. Arthur Smith's an empty suit, right.
I mean, Rodgers is going to run the office. He
did it in Green Bay and did it with the Jets,
Like there may be some collaboration, but ultimately, you know,
what he decides is how they're going to end up
run running things and running plays. So it's just that
curiosity of this long strung out thing. Jeremy Fowler opined

(01:07:42):
on something that I know we've talked about a little bit.
Kirk Cousins is just sitting in limbo there in Atlanta,
so he would be the great glass in case of emergency.
But based on this appearance, it would appear that it's
all done. But the shouting and the press conference and
everything else. Just I get your point. It's like, why

(01:08:02):
we'll labor it right correct at least announced that it's
done and then say, hey, I'm showing up training camp
or whatever the deal is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
He can sit there and make a few throws and
be off to the side. I mean, like, I don't
want to work out my arm, but at least be there.
And I think that that does a lot more than
doing what he's doing right now, at least for the
Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
So you're also not walking into a situation where you're
the presumptive winner and runaway team in a division. But
if you're showing up in the AFC South, okay, cool,
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You've got
a lot of possibility to just turn things on its head.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I'm going to show up. I'm gonna show up late
and try to outdo al Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Joe Burrow and whatever Cleveland does well, Cincinnati's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Not going to stop Pittsburgh. So that's There's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Well, there's well played at Dan Byron Fox, where you
find I'm at Buyer Grahams at Bayer Talk, find me
over at Swell Window.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
And I know we're going to Isaac Herenesec. But when
Isaac's done, I have to I have to make a correction.
I am an idiot. I'm not correcting that. We've known that,
but I do have to correct something. After we go
to Isaac, what did I miss?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Maybe you know had Isaac Low and Crime where you
find him in the Twitter verse, we go over to
the news desk with an update of a very wild
in San morning.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
In same start to the one hundred and ninth running
of the Indianapolis five hundred. It was delayed initially forty
minutes because of rain. They finally started the engines and guys,
if you can believe it, the start of the race
was then again delayed because of a crash on the
pace lap as Scott McLoughlin, while veering back and forth

(01:09:38):
to try to warm up his tires, spun out and
craft it damaged his left front suspension and he was
out of the race before it even started. Here's how
it sounded on Fox. We right on bullets with mcleton
warming his tires.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Oh no, oh, no, warming.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
Is tires, swerving just to put temperature into the rubber
and just loses it. Meanwhile, literally, is this is going
on the number nine car? Scott Dixon in the second row,
his car caught on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Are they running this on the foural five? Is this
is where the NY five hundred is? Because this is
a car on fire? Like we've got an accident. We've
got a car on fire. It seems like it's the
eighty five hundred on the foural five.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
For people who don't live in southern California, Dan is
not is literally not exaggerating one iota. We call that
a Tuesday on the four h five. So Scott Dixon's
car catches on fire. His pit crew looks at it
while he's still on the track. They're spotting it from
from the pit and they say, oh, don't worry about it.

(01:10:44):
Your car is gonna be fine. You just need your
brakes to cool. So kudos to Scott Dixon. I know
if my car was on fire and people on the
radio were telling me it was okay, I'd probably be
panicking a little bit more so. Anyway, after that second delay,
they dropped the green flag, and then five laps out
of the race, Marco Andretti got into a wreck. So

(01:11:04):
they've had the last two laps under caution, seven laps
in to the one hundred, ninth and perhaps last Indianapolis
five hundred. Robert Schwartzman, who is the polesitter, has the
lead now in Major League Baseball, the Detroit Tigers are
up five to nothing over the Cleveland Guardians in the
bottom of the eighth agum the story Tigers pitcher Trek
Scoubel he had a perfect game going through five innings

(01:11:28):
before it was broken up by Cleveland to start the
sixth inning. Before the game, Scooble now a two hit
shutout through eight innings with eleven strikeouts on just eighty
five pitches.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Guys, back to you, somebody pitched eight innings in a game.
I may try, Dreek Schooble, real man of genius.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
I'm the opposite of a genius. I thought Tom Brady
was driving that car. We are now looking at video.
Jimmy Johnson was the one driving. There was a two
person Indy car. I could not tell from the video
that we saw framed it up the other way, and
the camera on Brady was just one and his head
was moving in a way where I should have known better.

(01:12:12):
That's that's the that's the message, Mike. They would not
put Tom Brady in an Indy car on a track
minutes before the Indy five hundred, driving by himself while talking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Also, Jimmy Johnson, the longtime NASCAR star, not our retired
ex colleague from Fox Yes, is currently on his fishing
coat down into Mi HANDI car down in the Keys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
It's i E not the why, it's the Jimmy Johnson,
the old forty eight car.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
And last kudos to Fox and the coverage of the
Indy five hundred. McLaughlin's been out of the race for
two minutes. They already got him for an interview. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I don't know who's had a worst start, him or
me on the Indy five hundred. I thought Brady was
driving the car.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Look the way it was framed in. Yeah, I agreed
with you. Because they don't have audio. I have some idea.
I also did not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
See that there were two helmets. As they did a
pass by. It looked like there was just one. And
I'm like, well, you can't fit two people in one
of those cars.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Maybe maybe they go down to Boggin Staff. It's a
bob sled.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
That's what it loves.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Like, Yes, crazy, all right, Indy five hundred now in
the ninth lap. It seems that the early chaos has
subsided and we'll get the race going in earnest here.
But wow, what a wild start to things. He's dam by.
I'll buy carbon. As we continue here at Fox Sports Sunday,
Fox Sports Radio, we close out a little more back
to the NBA Game one. We found the audio from

(01:13:37):
Wednesday and you might hear a man die a little bit.
We'll talk about it next on Fox. Hey, welcome back
in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday again. Kudos Scooble.
Any guy that goes beyond six innings anymore, you're an
iron horse. You get it done. Tigers with the win
over the Guardians. We're watching the Indy five hundred. It's

(01:14:00):
starting to move. I knock whatever this desk is made
out of. That we actually get some racing without more
spin out. So that's got to be the worst though, right,
Not only did you have the tire issue and losing
control before you get started on the pace lap, but
then you have another car on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah, not a great start. Not a great start. Maybe
we'll blame Tom Brady for that, you know, and setting
the track up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
You're really mad at yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
You gotta let it go on. Hey, complete game two
hitter for Trek Schoogle today. Thirteen k's. That game got
done before any of the other games started. Yeah, hate
it quick, but yeah, my goodness, the reason is a
cy young winner.

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(01:15:03):
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We appreciate you all. Happy Memorial Day weekend. Again, make
sure to at least take a minute or two to
thank those that that gave all for us to be

(01:15:24):
able to talk sports, to have a barbecue, head to
the beach, sit around and yell at officials at kids
sporting events, go to birthday parties. Hi Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
You know, we have all of those different levers that
we're pulling, but in the end, it all is possible
for those that gave. They're all for us. So thank
you from all of us here at Fox Sports Radio. Now,
we we mentioned a little bit of I pulled the
curtain back on the show I do when you know
weekday nights Jason Smith seven to eleven Pacific, He here

(01:15:58):
Dan with Doug Gottlie Cavino and Rich twelve to four Pacific,
each and every day is work here on the weekends.
He did a shift with Olden Polonies NBA Great yesterday.
You can check that out wherever you get your podcasts.
But Smith and I, well, he wears his heart on
the sleeve as a fan. I'm jealous of it to
a point, right, because I still live and die with

(01:16:21):
my teams, but I think I cover it a little
bit better in terms of how it comes out. Right,
It's like, all right, because I actually have no expectations
at this point. I'm a Chicago guy. For those unaware,
So there's.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Not a win.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Congratulations by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Well yeah exactly. Hey, Hey, the Rockies and Oriels are
now worse than the Whites.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Well t acts have been playing good ball over the
last couple of weeks. May not have shown in the
win column, but they've been playing good base.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
By bit you know it too, at least some semblance
of a major league squad these last couple of weeks.
But Smith with his Knicks Game one against the Pacers,
massive lead, doing things in historic fashion, and we'd be, uh, well,
we have to give you one to the final minute.

Speaker 8 (01:17:05):
He hits the second, so it's a one twenty five,
one twenty three lead for the Knicks with five seconds
left to go and the final shot by the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Oh my goodness, my wow, oh my goodness, I owe
my goodness.

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
Six jo, do you believe it? Unlikelihood? I think we're
going overtime. I say, think because I can't believe what
I just saw. And it kept going on from there.
He held it together much better than I coun't believe what.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I just saw.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
You hear the excited voice of our producer, Justin Frostburg,
who was funny because he did a John Cena heel
turn because it was anything Celtics, right kid, Yeah, Laker fan,
Los Angeles born and bred, so cheered for the Knicks
in that round. But as soon as that series ended
back on trolling Smith's that shot it was like a
dagger there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
I I watched that shot a couple of times and
I slow mode it at home on the DVR, and
there was a fan sitting courtside. The ball hits the
back iron when it goes up and he raises his arms.
The ball Mike left the screen. It was so high
up the camera did.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
Not have it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Then when it came back down and went in, he
just put his hands on his head because that's the
only place that it could go. And again, for a millisecond,
or at least a couple of seconds, he thought it
was a three, you know, he thought that they had
lost that there there Maybe wasn't that that it was
it wasn't over over you found out a few seconds
later because of the replay. But oh man, I actually

(01:18:46):
feel for him in that spot because you you can't
do play by play, but your team is also there
and you can't be That was That was good radio.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
That was good, and it continued from there. What was
funny is we'd had Cole, our longtime friend, right pro
Football Hall of Fame voter, joins us each week. He's talking,
he's answering questions about the NFL and the seating proposal,
you know, for the playoffs and everything, and he's kind
of injecting up another three, another three, and then he

(01:19:17):
continue his answer and we're like, it's like you're just
sitting there with like little bike. He's poking at it
like your kid does to try to get you agitated.
And that's what it's all about. Did the next get
it done and they get a win today? Okay, I'll
take the plus two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
There you go. I'll be with you again. It ain't
over like look out for the Timberwolves here they come.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
See what we find. We got Hartman and Husky coming
up next. Thanks for being with us here at Fox
Sports Radio.

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