Mike Harmon & Dan Beyer Talk NCAAF Week 1, Arch Manning, Micah Parsons, & So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in.
Excited to be with you another Fox Sports Sunday, and
not only do we have football on the pitch, No,
we've got football in the air the first full week
of college football, a game that I hope to forget
in short order as mine Northwestern Wildcats look like they

(00:23):
were declaude, defanged and everything else as they got rolled
up by Tulane. My partner Dan Byer, on the other hand,
smiling and happy. An uneven kind of odd game, but
a w Dan Buyer.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think all eyes were on Columbus on Saturday and
watching that one versus two or one versus three, depending
on which pole you live by. I don't know if
the game lived up to the hype mic, but it
sure gives us something to talk about on this Sunday.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Well that's the beauty. But we love our hot take,
nonsense and coming into the year, and we do an
appreciation segments Jason Smith and I during the core of
the summer, like right as we get towards this Labor
Day weekend, of which storylines helped carry us through what
is sometimes for the lazy among us in our sports

(01:13):
talk media TV and radio of a lot of lists. Radio. Well,
we actually did one as a tribute to the summer
that was when we talk about the Dallas Cowboys. We
got plenty on them coming up. But the Micah Parsons,
Jerry Jones, and Jerry Jones doing all his appearances, which
were I mean, they were glorious. I mean, you know
you talk about him on land Man. He did an

(01:36):
acting job and then he just decided he was going
to keep doing that. So that was good. Good for
us me too much to my sugar. In everything going
on in Chicago, Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, do they like
each other? Are they going to go steady or are
they going to break up before it even begins? And
then you get Bagent gets his two year extension and
all of a sudden, the world goes mad. Look what
they did, Look what they did.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
And he's brought to tears with it emotionally, but yes,
makes the eyebrows raise of the Windy City.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Right, So we get those. And then obviously we had
Cleveland with their eighteen quarterbacks and the shedor Sanders Theater
and whatever. But then the honorable Mentions one of the
first names that came up was, of course arch Manning,
who became the put on the pedestal for this year's
college football right questions about Ohio State and a repeat Michigan.

(02:26):
We get the whatever you call that penalty coming out
of all the Stallion stuff that they right, but they
finally have a quarterback that people are excited about right
in Underwood after all these years. So and he goes
and he plays, and that's all funny good, But arch
Manning was the name, along with Bill Belichick, that I
can't move the needle more than anything in college football
this offseason. And Belichick will get to watch his handiwork

(02:51):
on Monday Night. But in the interim, all eyes on Columbus.
You know, we get the extra media fun of a
new partner at Fox with Portnoy and our stool and
all the chaos that reigned coming into the start of
a big noon kickoff. But for arch Manning it became
the I don't I have no idea what to expect
right everybody doing it. He was the favorite on the

(03:13):
Heisman odds at plus six hundred. You have obviously the
family pedigree and a guy we've watched a bunch and
depending on what video you watched. You like these tendencies,
you like these characteristics, and certainly the surname of Manning
is going to prejudice bias. Maybe take and say we
were gonna give him a B, we'd round him up

(03:34):
to a B plus because he was the nice kid
in the class. You know that kind of thing, or
the AA minus got rounded to in A if you
wanted to go to full Hyperbolee Dan. But then we
always come out of the week and there's going to
be people lighting their torches and having their fun. But
what we got this week were several huge marquee matchups

(03:55):
featuring top elite teams facing off, and this is one
of them. So I walk away from it after the
uneven performance. You know, you see the stat line certainly
not popping off the page as we just go. If
you want to go, do the box score reading one
hundred and seventy yards through the air one and one,
the terrible interception and then on the ground you knew

(04:17):
he was going to be a factor, but ten carries
thirty eight yards. Fine, we'll hear one of those carries
in a moment. But coming out of it, like you
played Ohio State, So what did I really learn in
all of this, I.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Think that you learned that Steve Sarkisian is going to
have to take the governor off of Arch Manning at
least at some point. I understand what this game is,
and Mike, I actually think it's a bigger there's a
bigger picture at stake here, and it actually goes back
to what happened last year in the playoff. And remember
Boise State in their great run and how they were

(04:50):
winning games and winning games, but they had lost one game,
and that one game was to Oregon in a close game.
And it was that close loss to Oregon that did
Boise State so much good in their quest to move
up the rankings, in fact be high enough where they
got a first round by because they were a conference champion.

(05:13):
And I look at these games now, Mike, and I
looked at yesterday, and I looked at both Ohio State
and Texas, who I know Arch played a little last year,
but they're breaking in new quarterbacks, they're reloading. Both sides
lost a bunch of players to the NFL, and it's
almost like like not playing to win, but playing so

(05:37):
you don't get blown out so it can be used
against you later on. In the season. Arch didn't have
one hundred yards passing into the fourth quarter. And I'm
not saying that that he would have won the game
or they would have won the game. They had opportunities.
I felt like if there was any team that needed
to be conservative, it was conservative. It was probably Ohio
State because of even the less experience that Julian Sayan had,

(06:00):
And I just felt that neither team was like, all right,
we're gonna put caution to the win here, and it
ends up being a chess match, not because you're battling wits,
but because it's taking so long and going so slow
and there's just not a lot of action. And that's
what I felt that yesterday was. And while Texas I'm
not saying they didn't play to win the game, but

(06:21):
it sure kind of felt like they didn't play to win.
Archs did throw a bad interception when they had to
at the end. They made plays in the air. He
did make some throws to make his stat line at
least be somewhat respectable. But I don't put it all
on Arch. Even if there were bad throws and inaccurate throws.

(06:43):
He did have a tough time and I think it
was a thirty seven percent misrate, their off target rate
on some of his throws that is that is not good.
But at no point that I think that Texas really
allowed Archs to open it up until they needed to
when they were down fourteen to nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Look at the overall game flow and tried to run
the football a ton thirty seven carries including arches ten.
But all of that say, you're not taking the shots
down field. I think the point of keeping it close
and if we lose, there's no harm. R Boise State's interesting, right,
They've already lost a game. Sure, now they get Notre

(07:20):
Dame in a couple of weeks. At Notre Dame like
all of a sudden, we all circle that of if
they want back into the party, they're gonna have to
go pull off a win there, right, And it's not
what their schedule is, but it made for appointment early
October viewing already for this game. But we look at
what Arch banning was and there was one sequence in
particular that the curiosity down distance, time of possession, time

(07:45):
on the clock remaining when they decided on fourth down
to call this.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Looks like they're gonna be the first push.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Doesn't again.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Texas Fox TV. On the call, you hear the excitement. Right,
it's mid season four, no question about it. But at
that point it's a seven to nothing game. It's third quarter.
So we're now down about midway third quarter. After a
really good drive, right, we talk about fifteen plays, seventy yards,
taking seven minutes off the clock, and then they get

(08:26):
stuffed three straight times, three straight arch Manning runs. Instead
of trying to find a tight end, trying to find
you some sort of gadgetry, it's the we're gonna run
this and we're gonna we're gonna make it, instead of
taking the three or getting a little more creative in
the in the playbook in the red zone on third
down or whatever like. It just becomes a very curious

(08:48):
kind of circumstance for Sarkisian, who in big games against
big opponents, he's got the James Franklin tag starting to
pile up on him.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'll tell you, I'll say this in connection with that,
I think this is going to be a game by
game analysis of Arch weekend and week out, because it
is one of the fewer stories that we've got in
college football. You laid it out at the top it's Arch,
it's Bill Belichick, and honestly it's Penn State with everybody
that came back and now trying to figure out what

(09:17):
the SEC is going to do. After a give and
take yesterday day for that conference, LSU kind of saving
the day with that win against Clemson. But the deal
with Arch is we're going to do this every single
week and right now, if you are an Arch fan
or someone that believes in Arch, you've already bought your stock.
But if you're still wavering, I'm buying now. I'll buy

(09:40):
low on Arch because with the opportunities that they have
that games against Florida, they obviously have the Red River
shootout with Oklahoma, they got a game at Georgia. If
he does anything in those games, Mike of significant and
of substance, we're right back where we started. And this
is going to be looked at as an opening game
against the defending national champions, against the defensive coordinator that

(10:03):
you really have no idea what he can do because
he has spent his career in the pro game. So now,
if you're Matt Patricia leading the Ohio State defense, I
feel you do have an edge against Texas. Texas played
at Ohio State. Realistically, two games ago in that Cotton Bowl,
completely different defensive coordinator. Now that you're dealing with it's
probably not as easy to be able to adjust if

(10:25):
you're Texas. I'm not trying to make excuses for them.
They had opportunities that we just played there. But it's
a team that's going to be in there at the end.
And if Arch is the guy that we have all
hyped him up to be, how are we supposed to
take him down after just one game. The name carries
a lot. I understand all of that, but I'm buying

(10:48):
low right now on Arch Manning because I believe everything
that he has been, even the touchdown throw Mike Magnificent,
you know, just loads up, looks like a Manning. The
reasons that we love him, or we love him as
a player, are the reasons why you can't abandon ship
after week one.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh, you look at the rinkle of being able to
tuck the ball and run something his uncles could not do.
Correct when they did it, it was an awkward thing.
Get down, get down, get down, because you were fearful
that was going to be the end of whichever Manning
for that season, because they just look like a duck
out of water.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I feel that that's the intriguing thing about what about
about arch is what Manning? Is he going to mirror?
It seems like he runs like his grandpa. Is he
going to be Eli who just throws caution to the
win and that interception is just chalk it up to
another interception because I'm going to make throws that other

(11:43):
people don't necessarily want to make. Or am I going
to be Peyton? Am I going to be in control
of that? I think that's an intriguing facet in all
of this. Sure Texas would have loved to have gone
into Columbus and won the game. Maybe they're not the
number one team in the country, especially if arches at
this point where he is in his career, but they're
a top five, They're a top ten team. That defense

(12:03):
showed it yesterday, and I just I am not willing
to jump off the bandwagon. I know NFL scouts won't
because just for one bad game, maybe it gives you
a little bit of a litmus test on where he
measures up against another top defense that we expect. I
mean with Caleb Downs back there in the secondary and
sunny styles and other players. Even though their defensive line
was reloaded in Columbus, they're still they still have players

(12:25):
on that defense. It's a tough way to start, and
I know we expected more. I expected a little bit
more from Steve Sarkisian to let arch go. So I'm
not ready to jump off the boat.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Just yeah, I'm with you. I'm going to buy it
low and we'll watch and see. Right, you're not going
to face Patricia and whatever intricacies. You're not going to
face that type of all eleven Yeah right, I mean
the eleven's guys that are running out there for the
Ohio State d are going to top most of what
you see over the course of the year. Yes, I
know you're navigating the sec. But we go person to person,

(12:58):
recruiting class to recruit reading class. This is the tops you.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Throw for three hundred yards and four touchdowns against Oklahoma
at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas in early October. All
this goes away.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
This is a distant memory. Now let's go to the
other side real quick. Only what just over two hundred
yards of offense for Ohio State. A bunch of it
came on this one.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Sand in the shotgun receives the football, fakes the handoff,
looks to throw, saying we'll pump that one deep down all.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right side, left sideline.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Excuse me, Tate with it, take.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It down in the end zone for a touchdown. Carnal Tate,
Learfield Sports on the call. Tate finishes two catches forty
nine yards, including that one forty yard touchdown reception. Jeremiah
Smith the guy that we've had our eye on and
all the Heisman odds and whatever. When you're trying to
crack somebody through the quarterbacks, that would be the name
that came up six catches forty three yards, but overall,

(13:50):
saying in his debut thirteen of twenty one hundred and
twenty six and a touchdown, Donaldson on the ground nineteen
for sixty seven and a score. Look, we averaged fewer
than three yards per carry for Ohio State, but you
make the big plays where it matters. And we talk
about those defensive stops, several fourth down stops by Patricia's defense.

(14:11):
Does it make for a very exciting box score if
you're doing that, And maybe you would rather watched some
paint dry at time, But every possession matter, every play
came down to it, and when you finally break through
on a big play like that, boy, you're going to exhale,
and I think week two will be a much different animal.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I felt bad for the fans that didn't have a
dog in the fight because I don't know what kind
of a watch it was for those people when you're
looking at a one versus two or again one versus three,
whatever pole you live by. The funny thing is, Mike
is this is the Texas team that completely shut down
Jerremia Smith in the Cotton Bowl that they played in January.
Had one catch for three yards that game, and on

(14:51):
Saturday they double teamed them. Still was able to get
his six catches, but not necessarily the damage that you thought. However,
the Carnell Tate touchdown and there was another throw here
or there that Julian Staton made. That's the sort of
stuff that maybe wanted a little bit more of from Texas.
Ohio State. I thought, saying played great. He was a

(15:14):
victim of drops early on in the game, but managed
to do what he needed to do and that was
kind of managed the game with all the different pieces
that they add. Now you get past this one and
you feel like you can expand and maybe do a
few more things. But I for Ohio State, they're probably
not going to be as good in the backfield as
they were this past year. But CJ. John Donaldson was

(15:36):
a physical runner and broke through the Texas line, something
Texas couldn't do to Ohio State when they got in.
The short yardage play ended up being the difference of
the game.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Short yardage down in distance. Great penetration by that Ohio
State front to save it. But saying there's game one,
a guy that came in highly heralded and expectations, he
gets to w and we move on.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's the That's the other thing matters. Look at Look
at what happens when your last name isn't Manning and
it's on the back of your jersey. Julian Sane was
the top, right, he was the top quarterback in the
class the year after Arch, and it was like he's
in nobody. So you want to talk about the pressure
that Arch is dealing with, which and listen every other

(16:19):
commercial it fell like yesterday was an Arch of manage commercial.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Hand.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, right, So there's there's something to that. But you
know there are other kids who can play as well.
And I thought for his first start in what Julian
Sayan did, made a couple of throws under pressure. The
stat line is what it is. There's it's it's how
the game played out. But there are a couple of
throws that he made under pressure and in certain situations

(16:45):
that if you're an Ohio State fan, you feel that
they made the right choice.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, think about a guy that's coming in with a
massive pressure. Maybe not because of the arch, you know,
myopia and national look to it, but say and I
mean you're coming up a national title, yes, and you're
banking on you carrying that torch.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And you have a player on your team that some
feel is like the best wide receiver prospect that we've
had in twenty five years, maybe ever in college football
who's only in a second year. So there's obviously pressure
two as well to try to figure out a way
to get Jeremiah Smith the football, but yet play away
where you can get everybody involved. The Tate touchdown was
a great one, was a bit underthrown, but it's also

(17:24):
while you have great receivers to make up for those
slight mistakes.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Go and make those plays all right. Week one of
your college football season. We'll circle back to college ball
a little bit later on in the show at Dan
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(17:48):
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Media that's Cavino and Rich. Hey, welcome back in Fox
Football Sunday. Feels good to say that, doesn't it. It
feels good to say that. Welcome back in It's Fox
Sports Radio. My Karmel dan Byer with you, having a
blast getting you set for Week one in the National
Football League coming up Thursday night, Eagles and Cowboys get

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after it and then there's a game in Brasil on Friday.
My producer getting ready to go, get locked down in
a hotel for several days.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'll tell you what. There is something that I was
shocked about, Mike, and it was bound to happen, okay tonight.
And this is something that you and all my friends
have been telling me for years. We started our family
a little later in life than others, and they said, listen,

(19:59):
there's going to be stuff. There's gonna be games that
you miss because of things going on. And I said, yeah,
all right, I agree. She knows the rules. So now
now my son who's entered the pre kindergarten class, back
to school night Friday, no back to school night event

(20:24):
at the school during Chiefs Chargers in Brazil, you're gonna
have to It only goes until six o'clock local time
for us on the West coast, so it should be
okay to catch second half, or maybe it's the let's
get there at three thirty. Let's just be there really
early for the whole deal, and then we can maybe

(20:46):
get out four forty five and be ready for the
kickoff that we need.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Do a little Irish eggsit there, Yes, Irish goodbye. Hey,
what happened to the buyers? Hey they're gone. They were
here early though, they were here. Yes, he made sure
look sign that sheet. There's a selfie with him in
the clock. He just put it up on the wall.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I was I could pull it Doug Heffron in and
just try to show up for the pictures. Yeah, hey,
there you go.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's like we'd like all the families. Let's let's take pictures.
All right, it's much to see. Here's the thing. They're
probably onto that, so they'll make that the last thing
after all the speeches. Here's how we do coloring. Here,
here's how we do like all of the next and no,
here's how we're going to start doing the printing. Yeah, no,
that's just wrong. Who do I write a letter to

(21:34):
It's bound to happen, that's just yeah, it's bound to happen.
That That one is just insane. And why are you
doing on a butt Friday?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
We need to write the letter to the NFL for
Friday night again for the second straight year, Brazil. But
I think it's going to become a fabric of our
of our lives, that Friday night game.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Isn't that the field of cotton.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yes, that is it is the fabric of our lives.

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It's Cowboys and Falcons, and obviously the Cowboys owning the
storyline alluded to it as we opened the show, Dan,
one of the big storylines that I thought was going

(22:40):
to play out for another couple of weeks before we
came to a head breakneck Speed's like wait a minute,
hold on. Micah Parsons goes from being all right eventually
it gets don slap fighting, posting on social media. I
hate you, you hate me, We love Micah. We gave
him an offer all these things. Moulighetta is like a
specter in the background of all the agent. He doesn't

(23:02):
even get his name anymore. And all that we talked
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(23:23):
evangelize send it to friends and family. And we got
deep into it. But I thought this was going to
drag out, So I felt kind of wounded that they
stole a storyline from me as the start of the
season was going. And then it's doubly wounded because Michael
Parson's now going to be patrolling and trying to kill
Caleb Williams in the NFC North. So a lot spins
off it. But you were back home in Wisconsin. I

(23:43):
got to imagine the car flags were flying a little
bit higher.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
It was an interesting twenty four to forty eight hours, Mike,
just because, as you said, all of the things that
went on between Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons were stuff
that we expected. To your point, I think many of
us felt ultimately the get a deal. Even when you
heard the Cowboys are listening to trade offers, I felt
that that was part of the game.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
But it went but it went very quickly to listening
to trade offers to finality, right like it just ramped up.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Really yes, I would say within within a day. Right,
it was about with within a day. But when you
heard that, when I heard the news, I didn't even
beat an eye to it because I just felt again
that it's it's part of the game. This is what
teams do. John Kon, who once played for the Packers
and media personality in the state of Wisconsin Packers Radio

(24:34):
network as well, tweeted Micah Parsons Micah freaking Parsons or
something to the effect on maybe late Tuesday, early Wednesday,
because it was the talk on Wednesday on what does
what does he know? Because the Packers have been a
team that's been linked to acquiring Parsons, and you just

(24:57):
you felt that it was fodder. Mic But this is
what people we're talking about. People wanted to know if
they were going to get Michaeh. Parsons, they being the
Green Bay Packers, and then Mike for it to happen,
for it to happen a day later, it was. It
did not rival the Reggie White signing, but I can't
say that it was much different considering the excitement of

(25:20):
your team now acquiring this player, and because of that,
and because of Green Bay's activity, I feel that the
team to beat the NFC right now because of how
big of a splash this actually was, not only for
Dallas actually dealing him, but now for the Packers and
their fans to get a player of this calendary.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
The comparisons to Reggie White all over and obviously a
guy at the top of his game joining him. You've
heard the stat right, four straight seasons with at least
twelve sacks, the only guy to do that other than
Micah Parsons Reggie White. So you get all those big
moments for me. And it's something we went at fully

(26:00):
at the podcast Devil in The Details to it all is,
you know you had to change in your president right
ed policy takes over. You know they have the mandatory
retirement age from Mark Murphy. So he goes out like
this is seismic as a team right for the Packers,
not not just from a because because it's a different

(26:22):
way of doing business, right, Reggie White, Okay, it comes in.
That's we're going back thirty years. Normally, they're not big
in free agency. They're not making big splashes. So suddenly
you're you're talking about a deal that is capped off
by a nearly two hundred million dollars contract. Very eyebrow raising, right, Packers.

(26:42):
We we always get the financials right. So we know
they get their four hundred and thirty two million dollars
from the from the big kitty of the national media rights.
And we know they do well locally, they travel locally,
global brand history, et cetera. But playing in these waters
is a different world. So I think if you're looking
at across the NFC, to your point, Dan, it's a
new way of doing business and a new world order.

(27:05):
Last night, look their second favorites in the NFC. They're
tied with Detroit at twelve to one for the Super Bowl,
but they are now the leader in NFC North odds
ahead of those lines.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Maybe a little bit better schedule or easier schedule can
can aid them in that. I think that they are
the team to beat, and even though Philadelphia is the
defending Super Bowl champions. It's just the fact that Green
Bay says, all right, we're all in. This is where
we're going, this is who we want. Excuse me, you
mentioned Rigie White. There was this signing of Charles Woodson

(27:38):
as well. Sure those were free agent signings. This is
a team that is also known to trade away their players.
Devonte Adams traded away like these are players. This is
something that Green Bay doesn't necessarily do you see the
success that they had in signing Josh Jacobs last year
in free agency and now you add another player this

(27:59):
time via Trey and only giving up two number one picks.
I mean, if you're a Packers fan, you got to
love this new new age Packer team with Brian Goodakouts
running the show. And to have the guts to do
it and to be able to get it at that price,
they had to be, you know, pinching themselves.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, two first round picks and you get rid of
a defensive tackle who, let's face it, as coming off
a bad season on the down side of his career.
He's got a great, great resume, so unfortunately he becomes
the trivia question answered Kenny Clark. But a three time
Pro Bowl All of that, but that's a huge contract
that comes off, and that was where I was really
on the Dallas side of it. Mike. I can understand

(28:40):
if you go all in recognizing it's time to change,
this isn't working whatever, but your timing was terrible and
you still took on a twenty million dollars salary and
trying to sell people, Hey, we need to stop the run.
It's like, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Such a such a backhanded not a maybe it's not
a backhanded cut. I mean, that's not the way to
put it. But it just sure seemed that Michaeh Parsons
caught astray in that in that scenario, and Green Bay's
I'm sure fine with it. They feel that their time
is now and you need somebody to get after Jared

(29:14):
Goff and Caleb Williams and and Michaeh Parsons is now
that guy, and whether he is there isn't. Green Bay
is all in right now, And to me, it raises
the stakes so much on Jordan Love because of what
is there. It may not be, they may not be

(29:34):
a complete team. McKenny clark was getting older, so hopefully
you have some young guys that can they can fill
that spot. They've had success. You know, they brought in
Xavier McKinney last year free agency. He was great for them.
The pieces are there, and even if the pieces weren't there, Mike,
I think still Green Bay now would be the team
to beat because they had the guts to do this

(29:57):
deal and they and I'm not sure, I'm the teams
were in on Micah Parsons. Shocked at the Cowboys traded
him within conference, but the Eagles commanders NFC Championship game,
the whole deal. That's fine. Green Bay right now is
the team to beat because they had the guts to
make this deal to get Michael.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
They're over underwent up a game. So you can now
answer that question how much is Michael Parsons worth? It
went from nine and a half to ten and a
half in terms of the total. And just to put
the button on the Jerry things like the two picks,
it's like one. It's a low number of picks. Both
of those are going to be in the low twenties. Sure, yes,
because the Packers are gonna be good at.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Worst probably, yes, right thirty.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Rates completely wrong?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yes it should yeah, but yeah, it's it's a no brainer.
Now in Dallas, does he move the needle and win
you games? No, you saw what it is. So I
think you know this is where we separate. I really
like the great player, but we're not getting over by
the way. I would kill for three games three years

(30:59):
where Mike team wins twelve games a year for everybody
wants to keep killing Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Yes,
they haven't had postseason success, but they're at least relevant. No,
not just because of talking heads and because he's a
loud mouthed Their team actually is at the north side
of five hundred most years, which I haven't seen in
my lifetime, going back to the mid eighties to that.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Point, do you think that your Bears were better equipped
than these Packers were when the Bears acquired Khalil Mack
or do you think that the Packers are in a
better situation when they acquired Michael Parsons Packers. I agree
with that one hundred percent. And that Bears team, they
they made the playoffs that year. Yeah, that was the
double doink gear and so that's so that's why I say, like,

(31:41):
even with Philadelphia being the defending Super Bowl champs and
the Commanders making it to the NFC Championship Game in Detroit,
having the best record last year. When you make this
big of splash, it puts an enormous target on your back.
And I feel that we've talked about the Cowboys and
the Cowboys angle of this ever since the deal was made.
But now when you look at the NFC, see to
be Green Bay is now that team. They're the team

(32:02):
to beat.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Absolutely exciting moment. And look, we love things that shake
up a league. We don't get seismic shifts like this,
but we did this time. Hey, let's turn it over
to Isaac lohen Kraw get an update of what's going
on in our sporting universe here on a busy Sunday, Hello,
Mike and Dan.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Busy indeed is Major League Baseball and its players Association
announced a short time ago that they've agreed to extend
the administrative leave of Cleveland Guardians pitchers Emmanual Clause and
Luis Ortiz, who are the subjects of a gambling investigation
until further notice. Their administrative leave had been set to
expire today. Multiple outlets also reported today that the Chicago

(32:40):
Cubs are finalizing a deal with free agent first baseman
Carlos Santana, who is recently released.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
By the Guardians.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
One game going on right now, the Saint Louis Cardinals
a two to nothing lead at Cincinnati in the bottom
of the second Lake College football games on Saturday night,
Utah what at UCLA forty three to ten. Ucla quarterback
Nico Iamala avens eleven of twenty two for one thirty
six a touchdown pass and an interception, and Washington over
Colorado State thirty eight to twenty one. Husky running back

(33:09):
Jonah Coleman ran for one seventy seven to two touchdowns.
Earlier Number nine LSU wanted fourth rank Clemson seventeen to ten.
Clemson led this game at halftime ten to three, but
then in the second half LSU outscored Clemson fourteen to nothing.
So with that in mind, guys, more big curiosity made
me wonder what LSU fans were posting on their message

(33:32):
boards during the first half, and we have a few
answers courtesy of the popular social media site message board
Geniuses at Breezes. Posting during the first half Brian Kelly
absolutely sucks bleep at Jugular Joe comment and quote Brian

(33:52):
Kelly will not last the season, and finally at cass
four t posting I will freaking fight a Clemson fan.
If you're reading this, meet me at Sonic ry he
shows Sonic or which Sonic locations? Great?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
He was targeting back to you had a lot of
choice in the drink for celebration.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I think LSU is pretty good, but boy do they
LSU sometimes? And they really do. They They got a
great win last night. I thought that they were the
better team, better than Clemson, but yeah, they sometimes just LSU.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Circle back to them coming up in about twenty minutes. Thanks.
I He'll be back with us momentarily because we have
to answer the questions. Dan Byer, I'm Mike Carbtt. It
is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, who
has been the best of the best in college football?
Chew on that for a moment.

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Speaker 1 (35:00):
Hey, welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday here Fox
Sports Radio. Yes week one of your college football season,
we'll get back into some of the big games and
takeaways because we need to knee jerk reactions. We've got
the US Open, We've got some action on the pitch overseas,
we got more Major League Baseball. So much going on

(35:21):
in our sporting universe. But we also have games to
play here. So here's the stick microphone for the final
time this season.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yes, for the final time in twenty twenty five, at
least on Sundays, we get the Fox family together. Mike Harmon,
Chris Burfett, Shan Mogan, Guard and Isaac loh and Crown
make up the Fox Family. Top ten answers on the board, fellas,
and this ties into the weekend that is, and the

(35:49):
weekend that was the most recent Associated Press National champions
in college football. So the ten most recent schools to
win an national championship in college football, three strikes. There
will be a pass today. I don't think I needed to,
but there will be a pass today. Mike, we start

(36:11):
with you. Let's go with the buck Eyes, the most
recent defending national champions show me, Ohio State. They are
off the board is last year's national champion over to
Chris Perffett.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
So sorry, I'm a little unclear. So it's just they
are the last the most recent national champions is what
we're looking at.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, so the ten yes, the ten yes, Okay, and
there's a you'll understand. There's a reason, you know, just why.
But AP just makes it more clear. Okay, this feels
like a trap, but it isn't. Trust me, it isn't.
It is not. Okay, Okay, I'll try Alabama. Okay, show
me Alabama. Yes, a bunch of titles under Nick Saban.

(36:49):
They are on the list. Over to Shay, Let's go
to the Bucks rivals Michigan. All right, show me the
Wolverines national champions in twenty twenty three. Yeah, I don't
mean the tricky with that, Chris. I actually think we
could have a perfect game today. I actually think that.
That's why I was. I was debating on whether we
give the pass or not. Over to Isaac Lohenkron.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
They won a national championship on a last second pass
to Hunter Renfro. Clemson.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Show me Clemson obviously playing last night losing to the
LSU Tigers. Clemson is on the board. Mike, back around
to you.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
We are four for four. We'll talk about that game
in Arnest a little bit later on. But yeah, let's
talk LSU Tigers as part of his list.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Show me coach. Oh at LSU gots Mickans.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
He wants back in Pap, I shuck him.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
There's even less Miles and his national champion ship. Do
we go as far back to Nick Saban? We shall see,
but LSU is off the board. Over to Chris Perfett.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
All right, since we're in the SEC, Go dogs.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Georgia, I'm guessing is what you were saying, Show me Georgia.
I knew that Georgia back to back national championships. All right,
over to shaf Cancers left. This is where it gets
a little. So I think we're back. We're far back now.
I'm gonna say, uh fs you okay, just out of

(38:17):
clarity for our neighbors up north. Do you mean Florida
State University? Show me Florida State. There they are national
champions twenty fourteen. Yeah, thirteen thirteen, beating Roger Yep, beating

(38:37):
Auburn and the national championship. All right, let's go over
to Isaac long Cross.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Speaking of Auburn, this one's for all the toastedos.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Auburn.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Show me the Tigers, War Eagle. There they were the
Cam Newton season. I told you you guys are eight
for eight. Now eight for eight.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Leave it to meet him. Blow it out.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Most recent AP national champions. Uh, we've got Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Clemson,
Florida State, and Auburn.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Who am I missing? Who am I missing?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Started to go in the way back machine. By the way,
those were all done like in order of the dates. Yeah,
I'm trying to figure out the rookie cards guys that
have come in in last decade. All right, Mike Carmen
Tennessee is it Tennessee? It is not Tennessee National champs

(39:43):
in nineteen ninety eight. I really wanted to expand it
to celebrate t Martin. Over to Chris Purfett.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
All right, if my timeline is holding up, we are
right in the thick of things in I would say
probably the late Oughts. So you know what I want
to say, the one that's on my mind. But I
got to show some left for my alma mater. Let's
have me hold hold on. How many answers are left
on the board?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Two left? We've got eight fight on USC is it USC. Oh,
it is not all right, Shay. It's up to you
better answers, keep it alive. It's up to me. I
have two in my head right now, give me one,
and we've got thirty seconds. Let's go Texas here, show

(40:29):
me Texas, all right? The Longhorns Isaac to make us
a winner.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
If only I could remember who their quarterback was.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh, of course, Tim Tebow.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Is it Florida?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Show me the Florida games.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
There it is, whether we go there you go.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Oh, great job, USC and obviously most recent Tennessee late nineties.
We just didn't go that far back. Oklahoma also a
little national championship.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
We say a few bars of Oklahoma while we're at it.
He's Dan, I'm Bike Moor at College Football Next. Welcome
in another hour, Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday, Mike
Harmon alongside Dan Byer. Thanks for being with us, being
part of our extended family. As we get ready in
earnest for NFL Week one. But we're smack dab in
the middle of college football Week one. We had our

(41:24):
Week zero warm ups. I'm gonna throw out a theory
in a second that was brought to us by one
of our guests right three weeks ago. That has been
I think maybe after yesterday some teams will say, yes,
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(41:46):
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(42:08):
roll on. But Dan, good to be with you one
more time. Back off a trip and a lot of
college football.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Watch lots of college football dated back to Thursday. Thursday
games going on, and Mike next week at this time,
the early window will just beginning underway, and that first Sunday,
as you said, we are a week away, but we
are at the point one o'clock eastern if I'm being factual,
one o two Eastern times ten oh two Pacific games

(42:35):
will be underway twelve oh two in the Central time
zone where I just was NFL back officially in less
than a week. And as much Mike as I love
the Thursday and the Friday games that they give us,
it's this window. It's at first week where all the
games are going on, where I really feel it's back.

(42:56):
It's almost like that, like the cowboys and egos are
the bread that they put on on the table before
the meal. But you're like, you love the bread. Bread's magnificent. Heck,
give me two loaves, give me Chargers Chiefs the next night.
But when you get that main course, that's that's what
the Sunday early window is.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Well, you get all those games, the football start flying,
all those kickoffs, we have those, the early window always chaos.
And then the rhyme and reason of why there's only
one or two games in the afternoon. We can fight
about that forever, scheduling gods that they are. But two
hundred and seventy two glorious regular season games to your point, yeah,
we get the little opera TIF right, it's the one

(43:36):
bite because you're not gonna load up I mean, maybe
you load up up bread because you're an Eagles fan. Right,
So this is the only thing that matters the rest
of the week you're playing the Cowboys, so you get
the extra bonus of maybe ruining another week or sending
people in Dallas already into a tailspin. But are very
difficult few months, and I know you got the consolation

(44:00):
prize and Cooper Flag's gonna show up for the Mavericks,
all right, So you saved something out of that Luca deal.
Not to mention you brought in Anthony Davis for his
sixty games or whatever he's gonna play for you. But
you got something. But you were already wounded, and now
Micah Parsons is gone. Not that you were expecting grand things,
Let's face it, they gotta be real real about these things.

(44:20):
You're over under was seven and a half or eight
with or without MICHAEH. Parsons. But now you move forward
and it's like, all right, this could get ugly, right,
I mean, because you can go get run off the
field on Thursday night, so Friday you come back and
now it's a little bit of desperation. Maybe you've added
an extra glass of wine to take some of the
sting of that game off. For that Chargers Chiefs game

(44:43):
in Brazil, I don't know whatever happened with that class
action lawsuits. People were mad I paid for this the
damn games in Brazil, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
And I'll tell you just quickly, just because of the schedule.
I understand the weight and how the NFL loves to
have the Super Bowl champ open at home to open
the season, But wouldn't it make more sense to have
the Brazil game be first on Thursday, to give those
teams another day of rest, Yes, and then have the

(45:12):
Cowboys and Eagles play on Friday. I think when you
play that opening week like, it's such an advantage for
the Eagles to get the game and whoever plays in
that game. But that would make it a little bit
more sense to me. But it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Twelve hour flight, four hour time different, So there you go.
It's fuzzy math as you look at the way that
system set up. But yeah, I think the extra day
would be huge, right, coming back off the travel and
getting back and reacclimated ahead of week two. You know

(45:46):
my feelings about starting off with a lot of division games, yes, right,
because especially when we don't play a lot in the
preseason anymore, and always to a point that one of
our college football analystis brought upnumber of times with Smith
and I on our show. In terms of tune ups, aget,
not that there's any tune ups in the National Football League,

(46:07):
but when we still wait the divisions so heavily that
you're coming in week one all guns blazing, and then
you'll go maybe eight ten weeks where you don't play
another division game, depending on your schedule. Right, we watch it,
and then all of a sudden, you're backloaded in the
final three or four weeks of the season where most
teams are what eighty percent at best of what we

(46:31):
thought in are all twenty two coming out into the season.
So it's like, yeah, let's wait that. Have me that
the first or second week when you've changed out a
lot of bodies, coaches, coordinators and everything else heavyweight, and
then come back in the final three weeks of a season,
we'll play that. I play you, I play somebody else,
I play you again for all the marbles. When we're

(46:55):
the attrition is so great. So like trying to find
that perfect scheduling algorith rhythm is always to me a
tough and awful business.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Well, I think, gosh, was it last year, Mike that
your bears opened up with Tennessee and they played Houston.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, they had three AFC South.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, so they got weeks. So they got those out
of the way. Why can't we do that with everybody?
Make those cross conference games and then guess what weeks
four and six? Since, by the way, since we're making
up things now like rivalry games. Sure, And the reason
I say making them up is because we've always had
rivalry games. We didn't need jerseys to tell us.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Did you buy it?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Well, no, absolutely not. And it's starting to it's really
becoming the NBA aspect of it, which I can't stand.
There's too much of the jersey stuff. But we know
what the rivalries are. You don't need to tell us
and for us to wear a jersey or a helmet
to tell us that it's a rivalry. And the other

(47:56):
thing that makes it great those rivalries, Mike, are those
uniforms that make them.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
It's the history that has it.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yes, absolutely So how about this instead of doing all
of that, make weeks four, five, and six your division games,
figure out away or make it a four week window
and then give certain teams buys in certain ways and
then you move off of that. Make it make it
like sweeps weeks week in TV, right with all of
the with all of the top episodes of TV going.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
On stunt casting, let's go.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, there's there's things that you could do in the
NFL to make to make your scheduling a little bit better.
I think all of these teams should start out with
cross conference games to start this season. If you're the
AFC North and you're playing, you know, the the NFC South,
Guess what, Panther Steelers, You're opening up the season like,
that's that's what it should be. Bengals, guess what You're

(48:50):
gonna go down to New Orleans and play the Saints.
That's what That's what you need to have. So many
division games Tampa, Atlanta, Seattle, San Francisco, Detroit, Green Bay,
in New York, Washington. Then then the two games that
we talk about to start out the season. You don't
think the AFC West could come down to a Chief's
Chargers go exactly. I actually think it's probably more penalizing

(49:13):
the Chiefs because they don't get that the fact though
home game ish against the Chargers because of the Chiefs
fans that will will fill so far. So in that regard, Mike,
it's maybe not as much of an advantage for them,
but still that game. You shouldn't have two contenders in
the division playing in time zones away when so much

(49:37):
is at stake and you're putting so much weight in
those division titles.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
He do you take the home coffers man? Think of
all the beers and nacho helmets and everything else you
don't get to sell, right, I mean just crazy. Hey,
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(50:22):
Heisman odds before yesterday, and this ties to what our
guy Pete Futech College football News tweeted out and has
been banging the drum for for a while. Garrett nus
Meyer is now your favorite at plus seven hundred. Jeremiah
Smith second at plus twelve hundred, John Mattier plus thirteen hundred,

(50:43):
A Carson Beck who's yet to play, plus fourteen hundred,
Kid Club Nick plus fourteen hundred, Arch Manning all the
way out to plus sixteen hundred. He was the plus
six hundred favorite before kickoff against Ohio State yesterday. Bye
Low Bye, Now, I think you got an opportunity to
right Leonora Sellers South Carolina at plus fifteen hundred, and

(51:04):
then you start moving guys around.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
We look at nus Meyer, Club Nick, who battled yesterday.
They were part of our answer from the feud seventeen
to ten, another kind of defensive battle, but nus Meyer
leading the seventy three yard drive to get him the W.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
There is.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Again LSU can LSU, and at times they lsu'd last night,
which I felt kept Clemson in the game. Fumbling the
first half gets Clemson in early three to nothing lead
LSU to me was in the driver's seat. I thought
that nus Meyer and when we were even talking, draft
of his name being brought up, Mike, I love that name,

(51:48):
but I still think that there is I mean both.
I love the name nus Meyer as it is, but
I do like Garrett nus Meyer as a quarterback. So
when I say that, I do mean that. And I
thought at times last year he was magnificent, but he
was bad. He was bad, And this is what happens
with LSU. There's just there's some wacky stuff that goes

(52:09):
on with him at times. But you win that road
game against the top five team in college football, you're
obviously going to vault yourself to the top of the
to the top of the food chain in a year
where there again isn't like a standout player outside of arts.
So arch takes the step back with the performance against

(52:29):
Ohio State and now opens the door like if club
Nick and I thought that Clubnick did about as much
as he could yesterday they didn't have the ball a ton.
But if Clubnick is still in the top five after that,
then what are we I think I think it was
top five or top eight at least of what you said.
So I mean it allows other guys, specifically a guy
like Archie Manning, to get back into the into the

(52:50):
race and at some point LSU will LSU, which will
then change the odds to something else. I do like
Garrett Nesmeyer as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
He ask me. There, I'm just saying you mentioned the upsets,
three top five losses, five teams in the top twenty
five taken l in Week one, Alabama loses as a
double digit favorite. That's the fourth time that's happened under
Klen Debor. Guy, I ain't been there that long. No,
I don't know that you had Nick Saban do that
in a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
And I, unfortunately because if travel didn't get to see
a lot of the game LSU Clemson. I got to
see a bunch because it was when I was in
the air. But the yeah, I just think that people
made a mistake. And it's not meant to disrespect Kailen
de Boor because they have brought in talent there, but
there is something with having Nick Saban on your sidelines.

(53:40):
And also, when is Alabama not played in that kickoff
game to start off the year, like in Atlanta or
in Dallas, in that neutral site. I give them credit
for going to Tallahassee last year. They ended up having
a home and home with Wisconsin. They were at Camp Branda.
Last year they won the game against the Badgers. This

(54:00):
year they fall short. It wasn't an opener last year,
but this is an opener. Mic at least they were
in Tallahassee to do it. But to think that things
are just going to be the same because it's Alabama,
I just I think you're mistaken.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Thirty one seventeen year final that ended a streak of
twenty three straight season opening wins for the Crimson Tide.
To your point, the neutral sites and a lot of that.
But let me bring it back because we've got two stories.
Because we talked jerseys, we'll push that one ahead of
our fantasy football conversation. But this is Pete fu Tech.
I keep screaming this every FBS team, especially Texas, Kauf

(54:35):
Arch Manning Cough and Ohio State, after seeing this so far,
should play a home game against an FCS team in
Week zero. Get all the wrinkles out, just to tune
it up. Now. I love our kickoff Klatt like when
we get matchups like this, but I understand his logic
to it of are we seeing the best from these

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squads coming out of the gate, not only as we
talk down in distance, in play calling, and maybe some
conservative part with an eye to the expanded playoff. That's
that's not going away no matter whether you play that
week two or week three, but in terms of just
getting some active snaps so that when we do get

(55:16):
these two teams battling, we've gotten the cobwebs out, we've
got we've shaken off the rust, and we got after it.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
And then I can understand as reasoning in that we
just wouldn't pay nearly as much attention as yesterday. It
would be like it was the week before with the
Week zero, people trying to trick themselves into caring about
Iowa State and Kansas State because it was.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
You didn't care.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I did not care, did not care about the farm
again in Dublin. I did not care about that, And
I don't think that we would care. The reason why
we cared so much about yesterday was because it was
Texas and Ohio State, because it was LSU Clemson, because
it was Florida State Alabama. Maybe we do get better
games for that, but it would just be a throwaway week.

(55:59):
Maybe that's maybe that's what what we should do. Then,
just have everybody start a week earlier and play that
bad game that you need as a as a refresher,
and then everybody's on the on the up and up.
Somebody will get upset and be like, why are we
doing this? We just lost to an FCS team. We
know that's going to happen. Sure, maybe that's the reason why,
But I'll tell you what, we would not care about.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
It, yeah, because I mean, I look, scheduling is neither
here nor there. We're gonna watch the games, they're gonna
put them on. We're gonna watch whatever they are. But
it's always that question. When the SEC does, they're basically
they're week off ahead of rivalry week.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah, all these years like versus scheduling it early like
most conferences and teams have done, Like there's never going
to be in equity. I mean, SEC finally going to
nine conference games is a big deal. But but I
think your point is absolutely the right one, and we
just treat it as another week. Yes, And I think
part of the part of the allure, especially this matchup,

(56:56):
like we'll just stick on Ohio State Texas, was the
it's just so much unknown because we hadn't seen it correct, right,
it was the build up, it's like, all right, I've
got a bunch of teaser trailers of what arch man
it could be. I know his family history. I've seen
every pundit fall all over themselves to build a statue
and crown him before he's taken an actual, meaningful snap.

(57:18):
So I'm getting my popcorn. I'm gonna watch. Right, it's
the blockbuster you've been teasing for six months, Like, well,
it's got all my favorite actors in. I gotta be
at the theater.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
It's the extension of whatever, the Marvel universe, the DC
universe for those that celebrate or whatever, and the next
Jurassic Park, whatever it is that you gotta be there.
And maybe that gets taken away if we see him
play four quarters or three quarters against the lesser.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Opponent, maybe they do open it up a little bit.
I still think that the stakes would be the same
for Texas, and I think that's why things were played
the way played out the way that they did, and
Texas is still in the national championship hunt. We've seen
teams Ohio State they lost their last regular season game
to Michigan, you know, and end up going on the

(58:05):
run that they do. But also in that window was
a lost by Ohio State to Oregon in a game
at Eugene where the Ducks stormed the field. That was
a great, great win. And then what happens to the
Rose Bowl, Ohio State gets revenge. There's no reason why
Texas couldn't do the same to Ohio State if there
is a rematch in the College Football Playoff. I understand

(58:26):
Pete's thinking of this, and I'm actually gonna do something
like that. I rarely, rarely ever do is I will
defend the SEC in this way. Well, I can't defend
them playing the eight conference games that they had for
so long, which will change as you said, to nine.
There have been times where like South Carolina faces Georgia,

(58:47):
or like Texas A and M in like the first
couple of weeks of the season, like they've played earlier
conference games because of that non conference game scheduled later.
So then you ask yourself what is better for you
playing an early conference game or pushing it off like
at the Big Ten. Because we say that in November
when it's happening. Oh look at look at Alabama's welcoming

(59:09):
Charleston Southern to town before their Iron Bowl matchup with Auburn.
But were we saying that when they were playing an
SEC opponent the second week of the season, or Texas
A and M was going on the road, or South Carolina.
We didn't say those things. Then We're just like, oh, hey,
great South Carolina and Texas A and M, or playing
South Carolina and Georgia or a game to watch. Yes,

(59:31):
but in September, like to play a conference game that
early end of the season, which some SEC schools have,
and Florida and Georgia and you know those schools have
played in South Carolina. Gonna mention them again. They're playing
rivalry games against Florida State, playing rivalry games against Georgia Tech,
playing Rovberry games against Clemson. So there has been that

(59:52):
part of the schedule. As much as we wanted to
to diss the SEC and say eight game schedule doesn't matter,
there are some schools that were playing legit non conference
games through their schedules and we just didn't necessarily always
notice that or bring that to the attention about that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
In college football, if you could have a rivalry jersey
that you sell for each one of those weeks, Dan Byer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
It's a new uniform every week with some of these schools.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
We're get ducks at Dan Byer on Fox at Swall
and note where you find me, and we're over at
Fox Sports Radio. Coming up a couple of quick college
stories to talk about. One what is storming the field
cost you? And the other a jersey gate and it
involves my alma mater. We'll do that and some fantasy
football as we continue. It's Fox Football, Son Dad, Fox

(01:00:36):
Sports Radio, Welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox
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(01:00:57):
As we get you through the games Mondays and Thursdays.
Let us be your companion with your NFL viewing experience
as we get into week one in earnest, but a
couple last notes Dan from the College Football where we
talked a lot about the games and the pomp and circumstance,
the pageantry Florida State after their big win. They're going
to be subjected to a pretty big fine based on

(01:01:20):
new league rules. So we're looking at a fifty thousand
dollars fine, which I think. You know, you've got plenty
of alums that'll check that off really fast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I think they'll be happy to write the check. And again,
great to have that as an on campus game. My
question now, Mike though, and I will, I will fight
to my last breath to keep preseason polls, because if
we didn't have preseason polls, Florida State probably wouldn't have

(01:01:50):
rushed the field if it was just Alabama and Florida State.
I understand the label of Alabama and who they are,
but it makes it that much better when there's a
number eight next to their name instead of just being Alabama.
And in the end, Mic, ultimately we may come to
look at the season and be like, oh, guess what
that wasn't an upset? Florida State was the better team

(01:02:12):
throughout this season and on that Saturday over Alabama. However,
we don't get those sorts of moments without preseason rankings.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
To that point, I've been thinking of Florida State just
a year ago, yes, where it went way right and
it was the blue check mark. It's actually five hundred
grand I thought that was wrong. I thought that was light.
It's a five hundred thousand dollars fine. Again, plenty of
alums that will shake that out like it's the rocks
at Shawshank to pay that off after what was a

(01:02:45):
resounding victory.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
That again, and it's being replayed right now on the
ACC Network. Alabama fans, you won't want to turn to
it because your team is still down in this game. However, Mike,
this is also one of those wins that gets you
back on track after what happens last year. I'd covered
a few Florida State games and it was a funky

(01:03:09):
time because it was the end of the Bobby Bowden
era before Jimbo Fisher takes over and they win that
national championship that we talked about earlier. So there was
kind of there was a bit of a malaise over
it because you were good, but you weren't great. You
would maybe win a game here or there, but you

(01:03:29):
weren't in the top echelon. Then we saw what happened
a couple of years ago with Jordan Travis and the
run that they made, and I think that threw a
lot of energy into the program that it hadn't had
for a while. But this is what this sort of
win does is it gets you excited for the rest
of the season and out though Campbell Stadium should be

(01:03:51):
filled to the brim if the Knowles continue to do
what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
I hope is the dangerous thing, but it's the most exciting,
right again, stealing from Shawshank the best of things, but
also can crush your soul. So now that you have
this big upset win, but without the rankings, we know
we got nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
No, and speaking of soul crushing, Northwestern, what a terrible
effort against Tulane. In the opener.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
You know, you travel and come up with expectations are low, right,
They were five hundred to one to win the title,
and you're looking at a conference of eighteen where they
were looking to finish well sixteenth according to most polls.
As it were, they put up a terrible effort for interceptions,

(01:04:37):
five turnovers overall, and a crushing loss to Tulane. But
Tulaine head coach John Sumrawl after the game just kind
of pointed out, all right, it's twenty three to three,
we win. It's great, but we're marking twenty years since
Hurricane Katrina. So they petitioned to where the white Jerseys
at home and evidently were denied by Northwestern administer in that,

(01:05:01):
to which Summraw had some very choice words for the
way that played out. And you know me, I'd love
to hear those discussions. It's always the all right, let's
inform the process. But Northwestern coming off of the Pat
Fitzgerald settlement that came down of wrongful termination and dereliction

(01:05:21):
of duties by some people. That was a big hot
button story when he was dismissed, hazing and all of
these things. Ultimately they had to write a two page
letter of apology that unfounded he had no knowledge whatever.
And then, as we talked about back then, Dan, from
my side, it was always the old question of should

(01:05:44):
you know everything and every piece of any bit of
back and forth between players, coaches, whatever in a university,
which is I think foolhardy to have that standard. And
I've always argued that in this case, they're finding it
might have been even worse of a gap than that.
So they had to do the maya culpa and then
they go and get worked. Oh and then you get sunned,

(01:06:06):
not only in the game, but by the coach saying,
oh yeah, yeheah, they wouldn't let us commemorate the white
jerseys like they wore that first game back after Hurricane
Trina twenty years ago. Just horrible looks for the university
all around.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
And I think it was because of the sun sun
or the temperatures that Northwestern is like, we're going to
stay in our whites, because that would be the only
reason you're playing in New Orleans. It's late August. I'm
guessing it wasn't the coolest of days, and we see
it in the NFL Stadium's Mike. I'm actually going to

(01:06:38):
take up for your school where I feel they were
caught in a between a rock and a hard place.
So not only are they going to they're going to Tulane,
They're going to New Orleans to play this game, which is,
by the way, tip of the captain Northwestern to have
a big ten s shot go play on the road

(01:06:58):
at Tulane. But now you're talking about probably the warmest
or hottest game you're gonna play all season, and so
you're already taking the steps of we're going there. I
understand completely why tou Lane would be upset, But I
think Northwestern, I'm going to stick up for your people
just said, we may not win this game anyway, but

(01:07:20):
we're gonna have a better chance if we can wear
our whites instead of our black uniforms or our purple uniforms.
That may we see it in the NFL first two
or three weeks. Teams you're wearing white at home because
they want to be cooler. And I would have to
think that that would be Northwestern's explanation. Not that they
didn't want to allow tu Lane to honor the twentieth year, but.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
That's just it, right, You're going, like, you go down
the process, what's that worth in a point spread? That's
that's the big question. Like psychologically, I get okay, I'm hotter,
I'm like, but there's a humanity. I mean, like, it's
a very tough spot. It's hard to condemn them fully,

(01:08:02):
but on the end of a week that you've had
with everything else in the administration and all, to just
have this be like, oh, by the way, didn't let
us do our tribute to Katrina the way we wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Yeah, I know, it makes them. It puts them in
such a bad spot. But I think that I understand it,
like I get it, like you can go so far. Again, Mike,
this wasn't This wasn't a scenario where it was a
neutral site game. Northwestern is traveling there, so again they

(01:08:35):
have already got their backs against the wall, to use
a cliche of what they're up against. But to be
able to yeah, I know, because it's easy. It's easy
to say, you know what, you got it. Absolutely, it's
easy to do that. But then you think about it,
the first game of the year, are we going to
just be completely zapped? I was in Chicago on Wednesday,

(01:08:59):
Mike north.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Oh, no, it's not pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
It was seventy degrees. It was beautiful out. It was sunny.
So when you then go down to the south or
you got humidity, I could I guess I understand what
was on their mind.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Yeah, actually you got a little little break in the
weather for you there. That worked out nicely for your
your trip back. Let's see, the point spread for that
one was six and a half. What's it worth? That's all?
Because I would then argue, it's like, okay, if.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
You were that much worse, I know, I am, yes?

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Or was that a talking point that maybe you gave
them something else to be riled up about. When you're
traveling on the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Road, there's there's a saying that says the easiest thing
to do isn't always the right thing. This case, it was.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
It was the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Easiest thing to do, and it probably was the right
thing to let Toulane do it. But I get it,
I get it from Northwestern's perspective. I don't think that
they meant to come off that way. I don't think
that they thought it was going to be that big
of a deal. And maybe that's where they made the mistake, Mike,
is because they didn't understand the ramifications of it, or

(01:10:09):
that their head coach would talk about it in a
postgame press conference. That's where I think they got caught off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Now, what would have been really interesting if it was
twenty twenty three to three the other way? Would coach
have been mad? Would he have said a word?

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
If they lose that game to Northwestern? Is that suddenly
because now you look like you're crying. Yeah, And that
you didn't get to wear.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
The right uniform, yes, exactly. Oh, uniforms would have made
the difference when you lost twenty three to three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
All right, we'll do fantasy coming up in a couple
of minutes. I want to tie a bow on a
story we did a few weeks ago. Dan, Remember the
little leaguer in New Jersey that flipped his bat and
got suspended as part of the Little League World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
And then and then got reinstated, right, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Last minute reinstation. Twelve year old Marco Rocco. His bat
was auctioned off, with the proceeding proceeds going to the
league he played for the hadn't field Little League winning bid.
You want to guess how much this thing went for?

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
One thousand bucks ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Now this coming off of the you know, Jordan Kobe
card that went for twelve point three million, but nearly
ten thousand dollars raised because of the bat flip and
folks being stoked about their local little league. So maybe
we need more of that across the country. Fund some
of those little league fields, keep them baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
What an underwhelming piece of memorabilia?

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Is that a Wade Bogs bat?

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Is that is that one of the bats that Mark
McGuire hit. No, it's remember the little leaguer that tossed
the bat up in the air. Oh, that's why it's aluminum. Unreal.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Marco Roco living on in the museum.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
We're gonna play Marco Rocco in the pool later today,
Marco Rocco.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Marco you think in New Jersey there are some pools
where that has been taking. I don't know. I had
Dan Bayer on Fox. Where you find and find me
Over at Swallowing Dome. We'll talk about some movers on
your fantasy draft boards ahead of your drafts this week
as Week one of the NFL season gets under way.
But first we have a final look at for the
day from Isaac Loewenkron.

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
And how about this guy some fresh NFL news for you.
Dallas Cowboys cornerback Deron Bland has agreed to a four
year extension worth a report of ninety two million dollars,
with fifty million guaranteed. Major League Baseball and its Players
Association announced today they've agreed to extend the administrative leave
of Cleveland Guardians pitchers Emmanuel Clause and Luis Ortiz, who

(01:12:37):
are the subjects of a gambling investigation until further notice.
Their administrative lead had been scheduled to expire today multiple
outlets reporting the Chicago Cubs are finalizing a deal with
free agent first baseman Carlos Santana, who was recently released
by the Guardians Baseball Right now. The Saint Louis Cardinals
and Cincinnati Reds tied three to three in the bottom

(01:12:58):
of the fifth inning. Padres and wins scoreless after two.
At Minnesota and College Football on Saturday night, Number nine
LSU won at fourth rank Clemson seventeen to ten. Number
nineteen Texas A and M defeated Texas San Antonio forty
two to twenty four for one hundred and seven thousand
at Kyle Field. Aggie quarterback Marcel Read a career high

(01:13:19):
four touchdown passes. And with that in mind, guys, that
brings us to one of the most unique parts of
college football culture. Did you know that during home games,
the Texas A and M campus police live tweets it's
police loss.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Great.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Here's some samples from last night. Seven forty six pm.
Intoxicated subject, Section two thirty three, subject having trouble with
the railing, released to sober friend ejected. Eight twenty four pm.
Vaping Section one twenty nine. Subject was asked to stop
earlier vaping again and making obscene gestures. Ejected and finally

(01:14:00):
my personal favorite nine seven pm, Section one twenty four.
Subject was being ejected for intoxication and vaping while being
escorted out. Subject evaded. Subject was located back in section
one twenty four and arrested Section one twenty four A
Kyle Field the place to be back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Ilo, fantastic stuff at Isaac Logron. By the way, he
also did the full umpire thumb thing when he talked
about the guy being injected, like he was giving us
full hand hand motion, and I give him credit. He
resisted the urge to say anything smooth about Carlos Santana's
Oh well, supernatural, nicely done, going all the way back

(01:14:43):
to nineteen ninety nine for a classic with Rob Thomas.
All right, thanks so much, Ilo, I have a good week,
my friend at Dan Byro on Fox where you find Dan,
find me over at Swollen Dome. Some fantasy movers and
maybe a guy that doesn't find his way onto Dan,
Dan's board or my board on no matter the price.
We'll talk about those next as we finish up on

(01:15:03):
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(01:15:24):
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Radio videos on YouTube. So Dan, fantasy football season is

(01:16:10):
really in fever. Pitch drafts all over. We're trying to
build our guillotine league back out. But you've done a
few drafts. I've been in a couple, and you see
the movers and shakers coming out of the preseason trying
to filter out noise. Yeah, but there are some names
that you just can't avoid. Is there anybody that stood
out to you, like from your first draft to the

(01:16:31):
second to where you went huh that escalated.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Quickly in the reverse fashion, Mi kid. It's something that
we have talked about since February. Nobody wants Tyreek Kill. Yeah,
nobody wants to touch Tyreek Kill, not only for what
happened this offseason, but what happened last year and now
what's happening now where you don't know if Hill is
even fully healthy. You also think it's going to be
a season where the Dolphins aren't good as a football team.

(01:16:57):
So you then say, and he stay locked in and
engaged for seventeen games out of the season. I think
the only maybe saving grace would be when a team
want to acquire him in a trade. But in the
drafts that I've taken, Tyreek Hill has just fallen and
fallen and fallen, and that hasn't changed my opinion from

(01:17:18):
February when we did our top sixty draft and Tyreek
Hill just was still there, still there. Finally, we just
had to take him off the board because at some
point he's going to be a top sixty pick, there's
no doubt about it. But he's just not where he's
projected and where people have him ranked. He is not
being drafted.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
It is curious, right because he's still fifteenth on Fantasy
Pros in the overall average rankings, which puts him ahead
of Mike Evans, DeVante Adams. DeVante Adams a guy with
a little star next to him in terms of what
the cohesion would be if Matt Stafford missed a bunch
of time. But you see him, I had of Courtland Sutton,
I had of Dj Moore, Marvin Harrison junior that you
expect those are. That's where he's hanging out in drafts

(01:18:00):
for sure. Guy that's curious to me, and maybe his
his draft stock rising a little more off the preseason
and now a better expectation of what the defense sets
up for Jordan Love and that's Matthew Golden, that somebody
will break out because last year, how many times do
we see that graphic the Packers have five guys with
at least four hundred receiving yards or six guys with

(01:18:23):
at least four like, no, no, they need a guy,
and it seems like he might be able to break through.
So still being drafted as a fourth wide receiver in
most drafts, but the last couple that I've done, he's
creeping up into that WR three back end two.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
It may be a situation as well, Mike, because Jaden
Reid is dinged up for Green Bay. Romeo Dobbs has
never really stayed healthy for them, so I don't know
how much you can count on him. There's no Christian
Watson for the first part of the season as he's
coming back from his injury. So you start going down
the list and you're saying, well, who is there for
Jordan Love to throw to? Matthew Gold being the first

(01:19:00):
round pick that helps. That makes a lot of sense, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
We've done a lot of press. I should get paid
at this point for Abuca down in Tampa. Now, Chris
Godwin's not gonna be available right away, but we think
with Baker Mayfield and what that offense looked like last year,
more cohesion and a guy who slides into a beautiful
spot because McMillan's hurt as well, so opportunity knocks, he

(01:19:24):
could miss.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Half the season. So Kate Dotton, by the way, another
target also dinged up for Tampa. His Week one status
is a bit in question for the Buccaneers. So then
you start going down the list of and you see
the number of stats that Baker put up last year,
and you figure he's going to put them up again.
There is one guy that I have gotten on both
of my teams. I like Jerry Judy. With Joe Flacco

(01:19:48):
at quarterback in Cleveland, I know there's going to be
some point where Flacco's gonna fall off the cliff. But
I don't know what the Browns really have on offense,
but I know that Joe flaccolects to throw the football,
and then Jerry Judy is their top wide receiver in
my mind. So I like Jerry Judy. And Jerry Judy's
going around the area of a Mecca Abuka. He's going

(01:20:10):
around the area of Ricky Piersoll, Stefan Diggs, all of
those guys. I like Jerry Judy quite a bit in Cleveland,
at least for the first six weeks of the season.
If Joe Flacco is healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Yeah, and even look last year the numbers he was
able to put up with not a whole lot of
consistencies at all. He didn't even have Joe Flacco coming
off his couch last year, So opportunity duff knock. We've
talked a lot about Trevon Anderson. I'm a big Chuber
Hubbard guy. I think he's getting disrespect and coming off
a big year, and that offense will be better giving
him more opportunities a nice fine as a back end

(01:20:44):
RB too. Dan, It's been a beautiful summer. Yes, now
he launched into the fall. You got to win under
your belt with your buck guys, I am licking my
wounds after a twenty three to three defeat. But hey,
we're still at zero's on the NFL board, and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
A week from now we'll be said saying, oh my goodness,
can you believe the Bengals have given up twenty eight
points in the first time?

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Hartman and Husky decks not Fox. Thanks everybody,

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