On a new episode of FOX Football Sunday with Mike Harmon & Greg Cosell, Mike and Greg talk about the Lions impressive win over the Cowboys, Fernando Mendoza being the Heisman favorite, whether or not Bears can beat the Packers, & go in depth previewing each game of Week 14 in the NFL!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Good morning and
welcome in. It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday, Mike
Harmon alongside Greg Cosell. Happy to be with you here,
and what is a big showdown show me Sunday. I
thought I should wear a suit today because well, it's
(00:21):
a lot of filibustering, feeling like I should be on
Capitol Hill with all the last second chaos in the
college football world. We'll get the revealing of the playoffs
structure a little later on this morning and in the
early afternoon, right as you get ready for Week fourteen
of your National Football League season. Greg, ready for a
big one today, weather in a couple of spots playoff
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battles and jockeying for position, and some teams that we
still have giant question marks like they're the Riddler of
the old nineteen sixties Batman series, Frank Gorshen running amuck.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There you go, pow wham. You're not really wear in
a suit, are you? No.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I debated it, and then I said, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Uh, you know, well, you know you want to class
it up once in a while. Well, you know, why
would we want to do that?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That? That is one of the joys of working in radio, right,
the uh, the old voice who's heard but never seen
to go, there you go, the Harry chapin w O
L D.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
There you go. That's a very good reference. That's a
very good reference.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
One of my favorites, The Greatest Stories Live Go add
it to your playlist. People here, yeah and go get
some singer songwriter in you. And The Travels of a
Weary Radio Man one of his big hits that I enjoyed,
And certainly every once in a while you feel like
you're living it. It's like, all right, let's go, let's
jack it up for another day. We've got the Abu
(01:48):
Dhabi Grand Prix, the season finale of F one later
on again the playoffs, and between the Alabama stands the
Texas stands, noted Miami. Just it's more just the idea
that I you know, you gotta get you get your
best suit on, Greg to make your arguments. I actually
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started reading as I was sitting in the parking lot
getting a first sip of coffee. Someone wrote what appears
to be about a thirty five page missive of why
Vanderbilt is criminally underrated. In all this process, So and
then I said, no, it's time to go to work
and they're not getting in, So it really doesn't matter. Now, prob,
you may win the Heisman, but it may not matter.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, whenever there's a finite number of teams, as there
always is, you know, that are picked and you know,
not based on record like the NFL that are picked,
there's always going to be debates and arguments and people
pissed off. That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Always the rule of thumb that we take from boxing.
Never let it go to the judges. There you go
win your games.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We don't have any of this, but that's it always
goes to the judges in college football. So you know,
I'm sure at some point they'll probably expand twelve to
sixteen and then there'll still be debates and arguments. Oh look,
it's like the NCAA basketball torn when they expanded to
sixty four and there's always debates. You know, it's just
the way it is.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, I was kind of hoping by the end of
it all, Greg that we just get guys in the
cage like it's the UFC little professional wrestling, or to
go back to Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, two men enter
one man leads whoever walks out that cage their team
gets represented. But we'll watch that a little later on today.
The aforementioned Pavia is the current odds leader for the Heisman,
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as you didn't get much of a show in that
Indiana Ohio state finish from the other contenders atop the heap,
so we'll keep an eye on that and information starting
to flow and leans and leaks out of those rooms
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every Thursday, one pm Eastern fifteen to twenty minutes of
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breakdown and tape breakdown. We got you for the next
two hours, are going to do a lot of that
hit a little bit in the rewind as we go
back to Thursday night, but big preview, big week ahead
here Week fourteen of the NFL season. We're keenly aware
of all your fantasy lineup quandaries. So as we hit
some of the principles, take the little insights and knowledge
(04:35):
that Greg's going to drop and some stats that I'll
fire off at you, and I'll stick around in the
studio for a while after at Swollen Dome to answer
any of those lineup questions that you have, because then
you have someone to blame if it all goes wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's why I stay away from the fantasy stuff. Mike,
I'll leave that to you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Hey, I'll tell I'll wear it. I've always argued, going
back to the first day I did this, I'm the
arguments about a player and if he doesn't performance, his fault.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, it's funny too, Yesterday. On Saturdays, a lot
of times I go to Barnes and Noble. That's kind
of like my happy place on a Saturday. You know. Yes,
I love going to the bookstore, and you know, and
so of course I see a lot of the same
people because I'm there at the same time every Saturday
for the most part, so you know, you know how
it is in a bookstore, it's like, hey, how are
You don't necessarily know the people, but you kind of
(05:25):
know them just for that the two hours that you're there. Sure,
so of course I get the question from a gentleman
sitting next to me, you know, well, what's wrong with
the Eagles? And you know, these are conversations I normally
don't like to have because there's never one answer to that,
you know, as you know, I mean, you know me
well enough now to know that there's never one answer
to any of these issues when the team's playing well
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or a team's playing poorly. But I never want to be,
you know, not a nice guy and talk to people,
you know, because I never want to be that guy
that's kind of you know, brushes people off. But I
never know how to answer those questions when I get
as that, because I think people expect, you know, a
ten word answer that encompasses everything, and there's just not
those kinds of answers.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
How much time do you have and if you have
the nine bucks that it's going to cost for this
cup of coffee and a score, all right, exactly, And
then where's the whiteboard? Come on, let's.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Write I usually go with the grilled cheese sandwich, you know,
and it celebrates and the celebration cupcake.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You got to have the celebration cupcake. Oh see, there
we go. See now we've got the menu items out right.
That's right, perfectly. You're a beautiful Sunday morning. We appreciate
you all being with us wherever however you're listening the
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Speaker 1 (06:35):
We know you have a lot of choices in your
entertainment world. We're glad you take a few minutes to
sit down with us. Hopefully you take some insights and
a few laughs along the way, and never a shortage
of pop culture and classic rock little notes as we
go through. And then it's probably some holiday holiday holiday
fair mixed in as well. But let's hit the rewind
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button if we can, very quick. Care to get things started.
Let's go to the winning side first in a huge game.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Golf up under center, single back kids, they give it
to Jamir, run it outside, got a blocker down of
the tenth to the five to the end zone. Wave
to him.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
He's gone baby touchdown Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Tristan Cologne with a nice block to help springing thirteen.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yards and the Lions can double up their lead with
the extra point. Lions Radio Network on the call. Gibbs
seven for seventy seven in the passing game twelve forty
three but three touchdowns, had a nineteen yard run. Bottled
up for much of the day, but very effective in
the red zone as he is a bit slipper, and
you hear it on the call there Jared Goff goes
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for three h nine Greg. But when we get down
to it, the extra juice that Jamir Gibbs brings. We've
been talking about it all season and here it was
on full display on a Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You know, it's funny he actually was way less than
twelve for forty three because that nineteen yarder actually was
a swing screen pass. He just happened to catch it
a yard behind GoF so they made it a running play.
So really they really bottled him up for the most
part in their run game. But you know, a couple
of things really stood out when I watched that tape.
Number one, the Lions are so good with what I
(08:09):
call conventional play action, meaning GoF under center. He's got
the second most conventional play action dropbacks of any quarterback
in the league. Only Stafford has more, and he's phenomenal
over seventy four percent completion percentage, ten yards per attempt,
eight touchdowns, one interception. That's really a foundation of their offense.
The other thing that stands out, and we've probably discussed
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this before, Mike, when a team has and I'm talking
to Cowboys now, when a team has a flaw, a weakness,
or just an area that's not particularly strong, as the
Cowboys do with their back end the secondary, any given
week that can be exposed. And that's what happened in
this game on a number of plays. Their back end
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is just not strong enough to match their front, and
they don't have a great edge pass rush either. So
when you combine those two things, any given week, those
issues can crop up, you know. And it's funny. They've
been playing Revel now, the rookie who's back from that
major injury he suffered in college, And you know, it's funny.
The more I watched him, the more I just feel
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like he's very long, but he's very stiff. He's very
high cut. He's very upright. His hips are really tight,
and it showed up in this game. I mean, obviously
you've got to defend some really good receivers in Williams
Saint Brown. I mean, these are guys that are difficult
to defend. But the Cowboys back end is just not
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quite good enough. And any given week, and it happened
this week, it can just be a problem.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, I couldn't get home, clearly, Jared Goss sacked once,
but a lot of time to operate the return of
am On Ross Saint Brown, even up till the deadline
ninety minutes before kicking a lot of questions as whether
he'd play, he gets that scripted play right off the jump,
and I mean you could hear that place explode after
that for reception. He ends up going for six for
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ninety two in that one.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know, they played twenty one snaps with six offensive linemen,
which you know, again, since they lost, they've lost their
two top tight ends. I guess, well, report is out
for the year. I guess brock Wright is on IR
so I don't know what his status is. But they
still played with some tight ends. Obviously, It's not as
if they don't have any tight ends, so they played
with Ross Terwelli and Anthony Ferkser, but they played twenty
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one snaps with Dan Skipper as their six offensive linemen.
So that's obviously, you know, a change they made because
they don't have Laporte and right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, I was curious also, you said the six offensive lineman.
I got to be honest selfishly, I was really hoping
to see Frank rag Now somehow find his way back
into the field when that report came. We had Jay
Glazer on with us earlier in the week. He was
talking about how he was trying to convince him I'm
good enough to go. I'll tolerate the pain, Like, dude,
it's grade three. What are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah? Well, I mean that was you know when you
heard that, that was interesting because obviously he hasn't played football,
so that must be an injury that just hasn't healed.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
How about that? That is crazy?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, So but anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Either that or he's got some really interesting hobbies off
the field, right right right right on the other side. Conversely,
we watched the Dallas Cowboys forty four to thirty is
your final? Prescott goes for three seventy six to touchdown.
The two interceptions, you can argue neither of them should
go on him, but unfortunately, that's the way football is played,
that's the way they score it. And we move on.
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But there's one play in particular. We want to take
the large thirty thousand foot view from it, but we've
got to hear the play. First off on the.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Thirty one yard line, pressed Doun airing it at deep
the field. Yeah, Nis was deff and covered complete.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, we get that cool sound effect mixed in like
someone had a drum. I don't know. It was like
insert your classic rock song, maybe a little Fleetwood getting
after it. But the George Pickens play, he finishes on
the night, he's got five catches, just thirty seven yards
on his nine target ceedee Lamb left with a pretty
scary and yeah, crushion six for one one for him
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before he departed that one contorting his body trying to
get back on a ball that Dak had put out
to the outside. Uh, and then he lands and you
see the fencing posture and all those we've come to know. Greg.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That's always really difficult to watch and you just feel
really badly because that's not that any concussion is okay,
but that you know, when you see that, as we
know we remember when that happened with Tua, it just
it just really makes you feel terrible. But you know,
I thought this was an interesting game for the Lions. Obviously,
they're they're playing with some backups in their secondary. They
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played a ton of what we call two man coverage,
which is man to man across the board with two
deep safeties. That was far and away their most played coverage,
you know, and there so, which is really actually a
very good coverage to play when you don't feel that
your corners are are good enough just to line up
and play pure man. And you know, their pass rushes
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is interesting. You know, they do some things with pressure
with four man pressures what we call sim pressure zone,
exchange pressures, some five man pressures, and you know, watching
this game, you know, and again I see this every
week because I watch them every week. But thinking back
to that draft mic where they drafted Jamir Gibbs and
Jack Campbell and everybody said, what are they doing. They're
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drafting a running back and a linebacker in the first round.
You know, don't you know, you don't do that, you know,
I guess that's kind of worked out.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, Yeah, that Campbell kid, he joined us on the
show after the game. He's starting to become friend of
the show. Go hawk Eyes twelve theres you got six solo.
He had a sack and the you know, the tackle
for loss. So a big game for him, and that
that front came up big. They pressured back all day,
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which helped, UH to alleviate some of the stress on
that back end. Like you said, you add the alignment
plus the pressure up front. Uh did a good job
to keep DAK firing. But be remiss, we didn't pull
it out from the larger picture. The one play for
George Pickens there in the final throes of the game.
Greg has been dissected every way till Sunday as to
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what was said or what was what his read was
on the play. Certainly he took to Instagram and Shottenheimer
addressed him to that responded some Richard Sherman comments. But
the play overall for George Pickens in this game, there
were there were times that, uh, you know, effort is
always something that you know, difficult to quantify, and and
you know, I look, they're they're in between the white lines.
(14:43):
I can only try to speculate so much. But it
seemed like there were a couple of opportunities perhaps uh
left on the field there, but that play in particular
getting the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, I don't, you know, to be honest with you, Mike,
I don't get into that because you know, you don't
know what's in the guy's head. You don't know any
of that stuff. So, you know, I just I wouldn't
know how to respond to that. You know, I've been
asked that over the years about particular players. I just,
you know, because if you're going to say something negative
about a guy's effort, that is the ultimate knock on
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a player, to say that he's really not trying, okay,
And unless you know that, that's just such an easy
thing to say because you have no accountability once you
say that, you know, you put it out there, and
and now that's a knock on a player when it
may or may not be true. So I don't go there,
and I'm just being honest. That's not something I will
ever address.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, it's just that difficulty, given that you've had a
lot of good will with the you know what he'd
put on tape through the year, and certainly some statistics
where we're talking about the thirty five to million thirty
five to forty million dollar range for the next contract
that Jerry will have to decide on. And in a
big spotlight game with playoff implications that you know, I mean,
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nobody becomes that eyebrow r.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I guess, Mike, no one said how great he was
the week prior against the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day, when
he you know, was obviously a huge factor in their win.
See that's the thing. It's always easy to be negative,
as you well know. I mean, look, yeah, you do
radio every day, you know, it's so easy to be negative.
And once that's out there, players have to live with
(16:22):
that and then they have to discuss it. And to me,
you know, I'm not a big fan of that.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I try to delve in the positivity and then you know,
you just try to ask why, like if you see
anything where there's a consistency and those kind of things,
and I generally leave the full brow beating of things
to the others. Yeah, Greg for sure, but you know,
in that particular case, like I don't know what he sees,
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you know, where he's reading, if he's looking at it
from a perspective ball do you have these second defensive
back coming back over, et cetera. But certainly a play
that's gotten a run in a back and forth as
the Cowboys look to extend, but overall a night for
the Lions a week before that, their toughness being questioned
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by former players. That's where it's always interesting to me.
Where the former players starts chiming in. I'm like, are
you just doing this because you want your podcast or
your TV ratings to and Q rate to jump off?
Or is this legitimately you're trying to tell us something
from people you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And again, that's something else. Obviously it seems to carry
more weight when a former player says it, but you
know they're not in the locker room anymore. They don't
really know the answer to those questions. You know, it's
for years and people now know what I do because
I've been doing it for years. But when I first
started doing a lot of radio and people weren't exactly
sure what I did, I'd get a lot of questions about, well,
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is he a leader? You know, the character of a player,
And I'm like, I can't answer that. You know, you
have to be in the locker room every day to
know that well. And just to just make a definitive
response about that based on an interview or based on
what you think you saw in a game, to me,
is just really a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
See, unless you got the full scone and coffee treatment
there you go, and your celebration cupcake, you couldn't answer
that question. Hey, Barnes and Noble, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You need the celebration cup I can't even speak until
I have the celebration cupcake.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, that's it. I mean, look, I need my money
up front. That's right, right, old o, the show business rule.
Get get paid upfront. And then all right for the
Cowboys coming up, you got Minnesota the Chargers, and then
road games against Washington and the Giants to finish off
their slate. All right, as we continue here, it's Fox
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Mark making it sound so pretty this morning. A big
slate of games, some playoff implications all the way one
to seven. We got four teams on buy once again,
so we'll keep an eye on the schedule, a lot
of weather issues. But coming up next Ken Joe Burrow.
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We talked about it his Thanksgiving Day performance. Now he's
on the road against Buffalo. Talk about a showdown two
heavyweight quarterbacks. How's it play out? What are we looking
for today? We'll tell you next.
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o'clock Eastern time for a roll through there on some
of the biggest plays and breakdowns. GREG game that has
my peaked interest is that game in Buffalo a little
later on today, the Cincinnati Bengals coming off that huge
Thanksgiving win, rolling over those Baltimore Ravens. Now, we look
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at the Bills, a six point favorite at home. Whether
you know, it's starting to get to that time of
year where you've got to check all of the reports
and see what kind of chaos may unfold. So across
the league we got likely snow. It's gonna be about
thirty degrees, So bundle up out there, get your your
best warming beverages and and handwarmers going. I was at
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a soccer game here in southern California where people busting
out the big hand warmers last night. I'm like, well,
it's like still like fifty. We've gotten so soft, but
it is what it is. You know it is you
adapt adapt your environments, no question about. But for this
one a lot made you know. When we look at
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the Buffalo Bills week to week trying to guess what
we have Cincinnati, it's the first time we that the
whole band will be together this season. We talked about
Yoshavas as part of the equation last week. We've seen
Jamar Chase and what he's doing week to week. Tea
Higgins is back and Joe Burrow obviously the head of
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the Snake with Chase Brown in the backfield, six straight
games with him with over one hundred total yards, so
balance in the offensive side of things, helping to at
least offset some of those defensive deficiencies.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, and obviously with Burrow you always have a puncher's
chance because he's so good. There may not be a
better quarterback in the league in the pre snap phase
of the game understanding what he's seeing. And one of
the things though with Sean McDermott in his defense is
he's one of the best in the league at changing
the picture pre snap to post snap, and he does
it in subtle ways now and Burrow's always been very
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good at innately recognizing that and being able to know
where to go with the ball. The other thing Burrow
always does, he understands the NFL game. If he has
one on one with his receivers outside the numbers Mike,
he's throwing the football and obviously when you have Chase
and Higgins, you've got two very good receivers. But he
is not shy. He's aggressive the other side of the ball.
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To me, I don't know how you feel, is really
fascinating because it's clear that the Bills just do not
believe in their receiving corps at all because they've got
the most physically gifted quarterback in the league and Josh
Allen and essentially they're playing I don't want to say
to hide them, but really not to have the pass
game be a big factor in the games unless it's
(23:23):
absolutely needed. So if it's not needed, they don't really
have Josh Allen drop back very much. So I think
they're telling us how they feel about their receivers. But
their run game is fascinating. Just a quick X and
O point. For a number of weeks we saw them
run this staple play. It was basically what we call
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a counter gap scheme where they had Hawes and gilliam
bea pullers and rappers. And then last week they had
forty one rushes against the Steelers, thirty two by James
Cook and nine by Ray Davis. They did not pull
an offensive lineman one time in the entire forty one rushes.
Now again, they were playing with backup tackles, and I
(24:05):
know Dian Dawkins is back today, but I was just
fascinated by the fact that they had a totally different
run game. And you have to give much tribute to
Aaron Kromer, who's their O line coach, and he's been
doing it for years and years in this league.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, we go back to one of the greatest pieces
of advice I ever got at a training camp, you know,
as a little kid out and you know, looking at
the Bears and trying to get some autographs on the
giant sheet of paper after the the the process. Gregan Reedy, sorry,
the great offensive lineman. Yeah, Sun, never stand in front
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of the pulling guard.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And you've lived up to that. I imagine you probably
don't stand in front of a lot of pulling guards.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, you got to keep those seat moving, you know,
try to swim past him. All big ten at Illinois
before becoming a member of the Bears. One of my
favorite moments, and really it's pretty they like forest back then, yeah,
that would have been like forest.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, I've been out there, yep, Yeah, all.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Those years ago. We used to go once or twice
a year. My grandpa would lotus in the car and
we did the day of it. And you know, back
then you had even more access. Now you're you literally
were on the sidelines. Now you're you know, miles from nowhere,
and a lot of these and even that, a lot
of the teams do one or two big public practices.
Everything else is back in the bubbles. So well, well
(25:27):
you still had that go take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Just to wrap up about the Bills, it'll be interesting
today again, who knows about the weather. Maybe it's not
going to be conducive to throwing the ball, who knows.
But but the thing about the Bengals is they don't
rush the quarterback particularly well, and their back end has
been very, very up and down. So it'll be interesting
to me. And we don't know the answer to this.
How the Bills decide to play. Do they still play
(25:51):
with the idea that we're really not going to use
the passing game unless it's absolutely necessary, or do they
look at that defense and think, you know what, we
can still do some things even though our receiving corps
is not really that good. But to me, that's one
of the fascinating elements of this game.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, Kinkaid gonna give it a go in the warm ups.
Perhaps that'll be a little bit of a booth. Yes,
we saw Keon Coleman with the touchdown reception. For all
of the missteps and deactivations and everything, Greg, he's still
their number two receiver behind Shakir with his fifty five
catches five hundred and sixty nine yards. Joe Burrow two
career games against Sean McDermott two and oho five ninety
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four touchdowns, seur picks and a key quarterback rating of
one hundred and six.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, that Borrow guy's pretty good. So we'll see how
it goes in this game. And obviously he's got his
guys back. One of the interesting things. And you know,
it was probably more fluky than anything else. But even
though you know they won the game the week prior
against the Ravens on Thursday night, they were only one
for six in the red zone in terms of touchdown efficiency.
I'm sure they're working on that area, but Burrow was
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terrific on the down against the Ravens. I mean, he's
just one of those guys. So we'll see. This is it.
It's a game unless weather plays a major factor where
you're not going to think that this is going to
be a thirteen to ten game.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
As I look at what the forecast is for this one,
it looks like about a nine mile an hour win.
So we're both both quarterbacks who can cut through that
for sure. Yeah, and the opportunity to make some hay downfield,
no question. Now you mentioned the Baltimore Ravens circling back,
big showdown for them, six and six battle in the
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AFC North, and I think one guy's gonna have to
come up huge. La Mark quick toss.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Henry left side, cuts it along the numbers, finds a
gap piece of the twenty ten five touchdown.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Derrick Conray.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
There you go, Ravens Radio Network on the call, Derrick
Henry for the year, he's got four one hundred yard games,
ten touchdowns, averaging four point seven yards per carry. Congratulations.
The Mark Andrews, you know, the other rush because he
had a big contract signed this week. Thirty seven catches
for him on the year. As they try to keep
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pushing a little bit. You look at Zay Flowers being
their leader for Pittsburgh, all the questions Aaron Rodgers and
the injury and playing through We've talked a lot about
the air yards per attempt, completing about two thirds of
his pass attempts, but his yardage right now ranks twenty third.
And the rushing attack what has been the hallmark of
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Pittsburgh low these many years. Greg sitting down there at
ninety three point eight yards per game. That's twenty eighth
in your National Football League.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, they I mean, I'm just being honest. There are
difficult offense to watch right now. They hardly play out
of eleven personnel with three wide receivers. They have the
lowest percentage in the league. They are a big boy offense.
They play a ton with big people. You know, they
play a lot with two tight ends, with three tight ends.
They obviously want to run. The football game has been
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for the most part, relatively anemic. They don't work the
middle of the field. They certainly again I'm not there,
so I don't know how they structure this during the week,
but just in terms of production, however they choose to
go about orchestrating their past game, they've certainly not gotten
what I think they expected from DK Metcalf. So you know,
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it's an offense that, as I said, is a little
difficult to watch. You don't know what you're going to
get week to week. We'll see. But the Ravens are
interesting as well. You know, Lamar has been fascinating since
he's been back, and I know he's still fighting injuries.
He misses a lot of practice, so maybe he's still hurt.
There are times he doesn't look quite as explosive as
we know that he is. And last week I thought,
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which was very surprising to me, he missed some kind
of layup throws, you know, routine throws where receivers were open,
which he normally does not do. I mean, over these
last number of years, he's been very, very efficient from
the pocket, and he's just missed some throws. So this
is I mean, obviously this is almost a playoff game
for these two teams, given there both six and six.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, as we watch this roll up, Metcalf just forty
five catches a little over six hundred yards on the season,
the deep ball is certainly not there with a level
of effectiveness from Aaron Rodgers talking about the air yards
per attempt and getting the ball out quickly. But you know,
from the raven side of things, we can only look
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at what's on the tape.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
It's as you talk about effort, it's also the you know,
once you're out there, I don't have a doctor's like,
you're not getting a doctor's note from me? No, No,
what I can do? So from Tart Jackson missing all
these practices and whatever, you're seeing it on Sundays, you
know where he's not getting to the edge, he's not
taking the unless it's a full give me layup running
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attempt where we're not getting that same level of explosiveness.
That really changes the complexion of that offense.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
No, and you're one hundred percent right, And I'm glad
you said that, because the bottom line is, if you're playing,
players will tell you this, coaches will tell you this.
If you're playing, there's no excuses, you know, either if
you're injured, don't play. If you're playing, you can't say, well, gee,
I wasn't that good, because you know my leg heart
you can't do that. So I'm curious to see if
the back Mitchell plays a little more because he's got
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a lot of juice and he had the eighteen yard
touchdown last week against Cincinnati, and he can run. He's
a good receiver as well, so I'm wondering if he'll
get a few more snaps just to try to get
a little more explosiveness in their offense.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
All right, we'll give it the minute it's due, as
we try to cover each and every game. That's what
the clock on the wall tells me. Tennessee and Cleveland
over under his thirty four, does Miles Garrett break the
sack record today? Cam Ward's got forty eight on the year.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, that's gonna be interesting when you're dealing with two quarterbacks.
And it's a little more bothersome with cam Ward because
he's played more two quarterbacks that and you'd expect it
with your dr Sanders because he doesn't have experience. He
has played, but they both still play at college speed. Uh,
And I think that's been a concern with cam Ward
even this late in the season, with all his starts.
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You know, it just you have to play quicker. It's
the old be quick, but don't hurry John Wooden line,
You've got to get back in the you got to
get back in the pocket. You got to play in
your back foot, you got you got to get yourself
away from the bodies. You know, in college you don't
necessarily need to do that. Everything shotgun. Everything's kind of
leisurely with sadr you'd expect it. You know, there's no
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issue with Schadur at this point, he's played two games.
Uh so the fact that he's not seeing it great,
that he's not playing with a calmness that you'd want. Hey,
that's normal. You know, that's not a referendum on his career.
That's normal for where he is right now with cam Ward.
He's just on a bad team. And you're right about
Miles Garrett. Uh, they're going to have to do something
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when it's pure pass or third and long. They cannot
have their two tackles Latham and more block him one
on one. You just can't do that.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, it's a difficult proposition, no question about it. Thirty
four Again, the total weather potentially there, it'll be gold
there in Cleveland, and you can also get in if
you want to see Miles Garrett potentially break the sack record.
You can get in for eight dollars, Greg.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, there's like ten, well ten games where it's about
one hundred or less the Bears Packers. I was looking
at it the other day. If I was in the Midwest,
Lois get In was one fifty eight. Wow, I'll be
cold as hell.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
But it's that time of year.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's you know, so folks giving up their tickets even
for that match up a little bit based on whether
heck to watch that on TV. Nice?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You mean you're not going to fly up to Green
Bay and sit there without your shirt on.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Mike, Well, you know, I'm a powerful and attractive man,
but yeah, the camera would find me and you might
miss some important wrapped down on the play. I mean alignment. No, no, no,
My days of craziness are over. I am actually in.
Once upon a time, there's an NCAA football game put
out by EA Sports. It was Bill Walsh's College Football
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USA and it was the first time Northwestern and then
a bunch of the teams were included. When you make
a big play and there's a fan base group of idiots,
it's me and my buddies. That guy, well, there you go,
So hey, can you get me a free game? Greg?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
You're famous, your famous.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, hopefully we're doing some good work here that we
can extend on the face painted lunacy of a man
child once upon a time at Greg Cosell where you
find him on Twitter, find me over at swall on.
Last one from that game, chimer DK, a little bit
of celebration moments for those returners making big plays. He's
almost at two thousand all purpose yards for the season.
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Just your one last note as we can continue, and well,
consider that game occupied and done. As we continue, we've
got the play of the day, and we continue across
the National Football League with a big AFC battle. We'll
do that next here up.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
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Speaker 1 (35:15):
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up for the National Football League Week fourteen. Already final
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will be with us this next hour any news that
starts floating about injury updates Mark and Brandon making us
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sound so great across the airwaves at Great CoA sale
where you find them find me over at Swollen Dome.
But now we take a pause, go to the college
world for a moment for the play of the day.
Let's hear it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
An Mendoza takes the stat wants to throw it, fires
it down the field.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It's free.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Elijah Serati the.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Surret seventeen yard protein today Indiana's.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Bat final score thirteen to ten, and that one Indiana wins.
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way tire buying should be greg in the postgame, I
love the Mendoza. A little snippet that's made the rounds
about a minute twenty seconds long. It starts off with
a lot of emotion, then turns into a WWE shoot interview,
praising his teammates, ready to fight through and with anybody
right all about blue and holding together.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Well, who would have thought that Indiana would be the
number one seed? I guess is what we would call
it these days, because they will be when it's announced
today at noon, So gonna be pretty fascinating.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Mendoza one of the guys who keep my I on
not only for the heisman. Right now, Pavia from Vandy
takes a little bit of a lead because you get
saying and Mendoza kind of go into a draw here.
But Indiana beats Ohio State for the first time since
nineteen eighty eight, when young Anthony Thompson was running wild
like hulking.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I remember him, I remember him very well.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Was years ago.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yep, yep, that was I'm not sure a lot of
people thought that game would be thirteen ten though last night,
not that we thought it'd be forty five forty. But
there's not a lot of offense in that game.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, you know, coming in I saw the forty eight.
We talked about it Smith and I on our show
on Friday, and I'm like, at forty eight seems awful high.
Now was I expecting thirteen ten? No, but certainly grinded
out kind of a fair twenty nine or twenty seven
yard field goal that gets missed a lot of chaos, certainly,
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and we wait for the results and the final playoff
structure a little later on today.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I guess the big question is is Ohio state two
or three given what Georgia did yesterday? So I guess
we're gonna find that out at noon Eastern today.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, impressive Georgia win over Alabama with one of the
dads from my daughter's soccer squad, whearing is bulldog's sweatshirt.
He comes running up to be like, yeah, it's like
at that point, it wasn't even halftime, and he.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Was all right, right, Well, it seemed to be over
pretty early in that one.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, there's no question about it, all right. Another team,
Another big battle that we have going on AFC South
Indy Indianapolis. Bolt's a narrow favorite on the road at Jacksonville.
Let's have a quick Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Love shotgun for Mason in a two tight end set
for Trevor Lawrence dropping to throw.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Trevor looks, looks lots of time. How far is back corner?
The ends over in the middle of the ends on
touchdown Breenton Strange in the middle of the field. What
twenty one yard touchdown catch? Welcome back Brenton Strange trying
to find some level of consistency. Maybe him being healthy
is what they get to balance out Etn and Tooting.
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What they've had. Trevor Lawrence a couple of back to
back strong games for him, He's taken a bunch of
sacks over the year, and we've got seven players between
eighteen and thirty six receptions. Jacobe Meyer still finding his
way in there, Greg, But a huge showdown here because
people jumping off the Indianapolis bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, I'm not sure a lot of people realize how
good the Jaguars defense has been. I know it's always
a focus on the quarterbacks, Mike, but their defense has
been really, really good, especially their run defense. I think
their first year coordinator, Anthony Campanelli has done a terrific
job too with pressure concepts. But you know, I think
the way it's played out with Liam Cohen this year,
they want to be a running football team. They have
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two explosive backs in Atn and Tooting, and I think
they would love to play in games where Lawrence drops
back thirty or less times. I think that's the way
they would ideally like to play.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, grinding down. He's at fifty nine point seven percent
completion eight last couple of weeks. As you bring Meyers
back in and Strange on that play, it's like perhaps
a little more continuity and they can start pulling the
strings a little more. Hey, with the iHeartRadio app stream
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As we continue, Yeah, we take our trip to the
NFC North, the battle for first place and my soul
next on Fox Ratings. Welcome in hour two of the program.
As we roll on, it is a beautiful Fox Football Sunday,
Week fourteen of your National Football League season at Swollen Dome.
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If you have any of those fantasy quandaries where you
want need some advice or someone to blame, I'm your guy.
I'll be your huckleberry. As the kids say, all right,
actually that's an old movie at this point, but Hey,
maybe you're just seeing it for the first time. It's
new to you. Like NBC used to say, they do
rerun season in the summertime. Mike Garbin Greag co sell
(41:04):
with you at Greg co Cell where you find him
NFL Films forty six years, the NFL Matchup Show, the
appearances that he makes always love the back and forth
he and Ross Tucker, and then of course he joins
Colin Cowhard one o'clock Eastern time every Thursday for fifteen
to twenty minutes a breakdown. Colin calls it his best
fifteen minutes of the week. That's pretty lofty praise for
(41:26):
you there, Greg co Cell. So you bring it each
and every week.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Hey, I'll take it. You know. It's who doesn't like that?
You know? Take that?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's one of you. You print off and
start putting it on your business card. Audry list of
guys that tell me I'm great?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Does anybody have a business card these days?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
They don't know it's digital At this point.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I know no one has a business card anymore.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I don't know. Once upon a time I used to
like to collect those. I have a giant box of them.
Most of those products probably sadly may not be with us,
or certainly they're not at those same jobs. I can
tell you that there's no question of that. So it's
certainly a lot of movement around today. We'll see movement.
College football playoff will be announced a little later on
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this morning, So great anticipation. What goes on, all the
politicking for Alabama and Miami and no tre Dame go
on down the line, add Vanderbilt and some missives and
some quantum mechanics and numbers and number theory that's going
around out there. See I'm just kind of getting a
(42:32):
little loose with the terminology, but you know, it's those
things where everybody wants to stump like they're on Capitol
Hill for their squads, the great Debates of twenty twenty
five until the inevitable, as you alluded to last hour,
Greg inevitably sixteen, and then that won't be enough. So
it'll go on and on on, spidering out of control.
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But then again, that'll get my Northwestern Wildcats a chance
somewhere down the line when we get to the field
of thirty.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Are they Bowl eligible this year? They are good.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
He did a good job to finish it off. And
then Fitzgerald's signs the deal with Michigan State and immediately
the Acrosure people drop almost three hundred million dollars in
the athletic Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No, my buddy Pat Fitzgerald glad to see it. I
know he wanted to get back into coaching. That that
he'll he'll be successful whatever that means. You know, in
this world of college football, you have no idea what
that means. But I think he'll be successful.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I will say this, I've stolen the one mantra that
was part of Pat Fitzgerald's run at Northwestern. Every day,
all of us, the goal is want to know, get
on that piece out of you're want to know, wake
it up. Then it's up to you with your day.
So be blessed and go find some good things out there.
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A lot of good football on the slate, a lot
of curiosities. Some matchups maybe they're a little lesser than
for you, but all have fantasy purposes. All have, of course,
the wagering world to countdown to kick off presented by
bed MG. I'm coming up next hour for you to
break all that down. But a huge game in the NFC,
my beloved, the beloved Chicago Bears on the road at
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Green Bay. Six and a half for seven is what
you're seeing across the board. For the betting line forty
four of the total. It will be cold in the teens.
As I mentioned, this is a week if you ever
wanted to go to an NFL game. It seems like
there's a lot of spots where affordability might be there
for you. But let's start with the Green Bay side
of thing, because they're getting some reinforcements for Jordan love Dan.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Here's the snap Glove looks downfield, bloffs at left side going.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
For Wex over the shoulder, catches made.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Is it a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
A tumbling grab in the left side of the end
zone A touchdown or not?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yes, it's a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Really gonna field? The touchdown has been confirmed. You gotta
be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Right there it is Packers Radio networking on the call,
the unmistakable voice of Wayne Lavy painting the picture for you.
There the diving catch from Wis they get read back today? Yes,
they keep bolstering that receiving corp. Watson came back. You
got Wix playing some good ball. You got Dobbs still
waiting on Golden but getting read back. Another member of
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that highly vaunted Green Bay receiving Corp coming back. Another
weapon for Jordan Love against this Bear secondary still depleted
in the back seven.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yes, and Love has been playing very good football. He's
he you know, a lot of people might forget he's
it seems like he's been around for years and years. Mike. Yeah,
he's only his third year as a starter, and he's
becoming a much more controlled, more efficient player. Every once
in a while he'll make a throw that is a
little reckless, but he's only thrown three interceptions this year.
(45:45):
I think with is it nineteen touchdowns maybe team so yeah,
I think he's he's just growing up as a quarterback.
He's becoming a more efficient player. They want to run
the ball obviously, so it's a balanced offense. They're an
intriguing offense. Now the other side of the ball. I
bet it was not as much of a Bears guy
as you are. I doubt it was on your bing
(46:06):
o card last week that Manogay and Swift would combine
for forty for two fifty five. You didn't see that coming, now,
did you?
Speaker 5 (46:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I didn't. I mean I do like the fact that
you got the Manongai comparisons and what he's done against
the exploits of Ashton genty but we don't have time
to break down all the deficiencies, no right now. But
when we look at that Bears run game overall, Greg
what two yards behind Buffalo in terms of yards per game,
giving them balance. Credit to that. They've built the offensive
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line they brought in and Eric b Enemy who's helping
to run the control.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's a fascinating offensive line too. I mean they controlled
the ball last week for over forty minutes, running almost
exclusively outside zone, which, by the way, the Eagles played
absolutely the wrong way. But their O line is fascinating
because the left side of their O line, now that
Trapillo is playing, the left side is more athletic than
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maulers and movers, whereas the right side, those guys are
maulers and movers. So right is on the right side
Jackson's on the right side, those guys are movers, they're maulers.
The left side is more athletic. So it's a really
fascinating dichotomy what they have on the right versus what
they have on the left. But they ran a ton
of outside zone last week, and as I said, the
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wrong way to play outside zone is to have your
defensive line move laterally. You have to have some kind
of vertical knockback, which is not to say you should
be shooting gaps. Those are two different things. But the
Eagles had no vertical knockback at all. And what I
thought was really good by Ben Johnson. And obviously he's
a little smarter than I am when it comes to
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this stuff, but he did such a good job with
motion and the reason motion is so effective in the
run game. It almost goes back. It reminded me of
Joe Gibbs years and years ago with Washington using motion
because it changes run support and it can benefit you
depending on how the defense reacts. And they got the
Eagles to react exactly the way they wanted them to
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on a number of runs.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
See if you can't find that weak spot right testing
the link. I always use the Jurassic Park Raptors analogy
of all, right, where are we gonna find our soft spot?
That's where we're running. That's the big test today. Green
Bay has been fantastic against run and run support. Roma
Dunsay out for this one. Some more Loveland, more Luther
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Burden as he keeps rolling up in the receiving corps
as well. There Greg, but for Caleb Williams each and
every week. Everybody is looking for three hundred yards. Once
upon a time it was good enough just to win.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah. And also the thing that he's doing, even though
he still misses some throws that you just have to make,
he doesn't turn the ball over, which is critical. So
if you can run the ball with some degree of success,
and they've actually done that, they have the second best
running game in the National Football League. I'm not sure
a lot of people know that would have thought that
was going to be the case. It was all Caleb Williams.
Caleb Williams, So that's compensated for the fact that Caleb
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is a below sixty percent completion guy and miss misses
too many routine throws at this point in his development.
But the defense, even with a lot of people missing,
and last week they obviously got the two corners back
Johnson and Gordon, but their defense has played extremely well
given you know, all the missing players, so it's been
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a really nice mix for them. And Williams has made
plays in the fourth quarter. Even though he's not been
consistent from quarter one through quarter four, he certainly made
plays when they've counted in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
This is where you get into hot take theater in
sports Dog Radio Greg and start yelling, he's got the
clutch gene. He's a winner. See what I did there.
That's called back to like week one.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
When we were well, no, no, I think you missed.
I think you missed another cliche. He's got it?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh it? Oh oh okay, yeah, he's got it. Yeah
all th So, I guess.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
When a quarterback loses, did they leave it at home?
I never understood that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Maybe they never actually possessed it. We don't know. I mean,
that's just the debate. Week to week plus seventeen turnover
differential far and away the best in the National Football League.
As we continue through the slate, going through week fourteen,
getting you set, you know, we talked a lot. We've
talked a lot about the Philadelphia Eagles and their offensive woes,
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a lot of finger pointing, a lot of back and forth.
Sirianni reportedly back in on more of the offensive meetings
and game planning as they get ready for a big
Monday night game against the Los Angeles Chargers and Justin
Herbert playing with the hand injury coming out of a surgery.
They will get Hampton back to the backfield and he
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and Vadell. That is really the most intriguing for me,
particularly coming off of what the Bears just did to
the Eagles and no Jalen Carter who suddenly had both
shoulders operated.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, so now you have to go with a little
more depth. Keep in mind, Jordan Davis has played about
five hundred snaps this year. He's played over sixty percent
of the snaps. I'm not sure that's what you ultimately
want with him. So now you get into depth, but
you know that Eagle situation. The bottom line is to me,
they're really in many ways the same team they were
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a year ago. They just can't run the ball. So
they're a running football team that can't run, and they
do not have a drop back passing game to compensate.
But they did not have a drop back passing game
a year ago either, and I think that's what people
are missing. I mean last year, and I've said this
so many times, that Jalen Hurts through for less than
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two hundred yards and nine or ten games last year
they didn't win because of their passing game a year ago. Now,
the one thing that does stand out this year is
the Hurtz factor, as a runner by design that has
not been a part of their offense, and I wonder
why that is. I can't answer that, but that's something
that ideally you think they'd like to get back to,
(52:04):
unless there's something going on there that we don't know,
which is probably the case. But when you get right
down to it, the process by which they're playing is
the same as a year ago. It's just they've been
totally unable to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Ever since they Aj Brown told everybody to drop him
off his fantasy squads. Looking at a total of thirty
three targets over the last three weeks, a total of
twenty five receptions, three touchdowns, had two in that loss
to Chicago, going back to Black Friday. But when we
look at the run game, just to extrapolate for those
(52:38):
that haven't watched the Saquon Barkley experience this year, just
one game greater than eighty yards had that hundred fifty
plus in that revenge game against the Giants, but otherwise
he hasn't scored since Week four.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Great, I know, No, they've been totally unable to run
the ball. There's many reasons why. Clearly, the offensive line
has not been very good. Was expected going into the season.
You know, Barkley, it's always hard when you watch tape
to figure out what a back is because you know backs,
there's an innate DNA thing with backs. Obviously, in any
(53:14):
given run there's a path, but once two or three
steps are taken, then then a back just goes with
his god given ability. Then he has to react to
what he sees. Uh, because you know, gaps are fluid,
they change once the ball snapped, so you know it
might be a certain run. Hey, here's outside zone. You're
gonna your first two or three steps, you're attacking the
(53:34):
outside leg of the tight end. But after that then
you're reacting to what you see. So it's always hard
to say whether a back is seeing it right or
seeing it wrong. But the bottom line is Barkley has
very few runs where he kind of gets past the
first level with any clarity. So it's it's it's really
been a bad run game when you get right down
(53:55):
to it.
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We cover it all here on a Fox Football Sunday,
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Isaac Low and cron in just a couple of minutes
as we roll up here, Greg, But we've got Houston
and Kansas City later on tonight, one of the most
(56:19):
fascinating games I think on the slate here forty one
and a half your total. It's in Kansas City, it'll
be cold. Houston's defense the number one scoring defense we've
got going into the National Football League for Kansas City.
Continuing the handwringing, I've used the analogy of the Halloween
horror movies of until you're sure the villain is dead,
(56:41):
and they've already decided there's no sequel. They can still
raise up. But a big spot here. Now they're playing
must win football all the way through for Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, and I think that they're going to be without
their tackles if I'm not trying.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
You're looking at two or three offensive line at least
the tackles, and then a couple that will be waiting
till game time.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah. So, I mean this is not the defense you
want to be in that situation against. And even they're
regular left guard Sue Mattea, the second year player, he's
not a very good one on one pass protector. Now
we always focus on the Texans with Hunter and Anderson,
but they are really good on the inside as well.
This is going to be a very intriguing game because
(57:24):
Mahomes as this year has progressed. I mean, he is
really at his best as a movement playmaker as opposed
to a pocket technician. This is the way he plays now.
It's not as if he can't throw from the pocket,
of course he can, but I just think he's so
much more comfortable when he moves, and he's very very
good at it, as we know, and because of that
element to his game, you never can count him out. Now,
(57:48):
this is a really good defense at all three levels.
They tend to play more with a single high safety
than they do with two safeties on the back end.
And Klin Bullock. I don't know how many people really
know about him, but based on my film study and
I see pretty much every team for the most part,
I think he's been the best post safety in the
National Football League this year. So this is a really
(58:10):
good defense. They're fast, they're explosive, they're violent, They've got
really good players. But again, you nailed it. I mean,
no one would be surprised if Mahomes had a great
game in Kansas City won. That would surprise no one.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
No, it's it. And we also talk about he's only
forty yards off his career best in the rushing department,
and considering what they've gotten from Hunt and Pacheco. He
may well, he's gonna be running for his life.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Well, particularly with the pass rush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, He's
gonna probably need to make plays with his legs, and
he's very good at it, very instinctive, as good a
feel for spatial awareness as any quarterback we've ever seen.
You know, the thing about him when he moves is
he also keeps his eyes down field, so the throws
are there. We see that every single week, and particularly
(58:55):
in critical moments. He's very difficult to play against. And
it's not likely that the Texans are going to jump
out ahead, you know, thirty to ten. They don't necessarily
have that kind of offense. So you know, that's where
the Mahomes factor really comes into play.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
Chiefs defense still one of your better units in the
National Football League, giving up just nineteen points per game
one hundred rushing yards per game. Haven't really seen a
lot from Woody Marks and Nick Chubb in terms of
dominance there. Mark's at three point six yard protecting Chubb
just above one. Seeing a little more of Higgins. CJ.
(59:31):
Stroud back under center, completing nearly two thirds of his
past attempt seven yards air yards per attempt eleven touchdowns.
Nico Collins has been fantastic. Three of the last four weeks,
he's gone over ninety yards. You even got a rushing
touchdown as a little bonus for you last week in
that game. That was an odd game against Indianapolis, no
(59:52):
question about it. But here a couple of good defenses,
and I'm really intrigued to see what Houston's offense can
surmount here, if they can get anything going to give
Stroud a chance or is that you know where where
they actually have the advantage kind of gets neutralized of
their defensive process.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, well, that's the thing in this game is you know,
even though the Chiefs offense has not had anywhere near
the consistency this year and even going back the last
two years, they've not been a high scoring offense the
last number of years. But you know, you get into
these close games in the third and fourth quarter, and
that's where Mahomes is Mahomes. So it's you get a
(01:00:33):
sense here, or I get that sense. I don't think
that the Texans are going to run away and have
thirty points by the end of the third quarter. So
you end up with a close game and that's you know, now,
granted there have been close games this year and was
Mahomes has not made those plays or for whatever reason
they've lost. I mean, you could argue that they he
made those plays on Thanksgiving against Dallas and then Dallas
(01:00:55):
came down and kicked the winning field goal. I think
it was if memory search.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, whatever, you can have super toe Brandon Aubrey at
your disposal right right off, Just get it to midfield.
He's gonna bump right right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
But I mean, you know, you just don't know. So
to me, this is one of those games where it's
a very odd game to sort of handicap as it were.
I mean, I can talk about the x's and o's
as we have, but it's not likely to be a
blowout game for either side.
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it over to the news desk for our first update
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Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Yes, it's the Chargers against the Magic of the positivity
rabbit in the Eagles lot.
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Did you see that credit the positivity rabbit that they
had go ahead?
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I low, I did not.
Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
Yeah, it was a giant inflatable bunny rabbit, and I
mean giant with overalls a bow tie. And we'll find
out if that is the key to turning around. How
well does the evil season.
Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
There's that inspirational rabbit travel. That's the big question.
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
I would think it would It would be fine as
long as they deflate it and reinflate it when they
get to LA, because if they don't deflate it, it'll
just take up space on the charter. But if they
deflated and then reinflated, I mean they can. They can
stuff it in a suitcase in a plastic bag.
Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Easy travel. About that.
Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
We'll be breaking that down as we get closer to
Monday night football. Saturday night football saw number two Indiana
knockoff number one Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship
game thirteen to ten as the Hoosiers held the Buckeyes
scoreless in the second half. Here was Ohio State's last
gasp chance.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Here's the stat saying back to throwing it pressure Colms
rolls to us right, tries to run.
Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
With it, throws it down the field, it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Is tipped up in the air, and that's the ball
game right there.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Da uns.
Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Mindiada has beat the Ohio State Puns, the number one
team of the Cup. Rayers have beat the Potus Headana.
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He's going to the college.
Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Football playoff and not gonna get a fine, unflavable.
Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
Long time voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher with a
call on w eighth CC and by the way, a
shout out to Don Fisher, mister Fishers seventy nine years old.
That was actually the second game he broadcast on Saturday. Earlier,
he did the Hoosiers basketball game against Louisville and then
did the Big Ten Championship game, their victory over Ohio State,
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and the ACC Championship game. Duke knocked off number seventeen
Virginia in overtime twenty seven to twenty. It was Duke's
first ACC football championship since nineteen eighty nine. And finally,
we have sort of an unexpected NFL injury slash illness update,
but it in about a player. Los Angeles Rams head
(01:05:05):
coach Sean McVeigh is expected to coach today at Arizona.
He did not travel with the Rams yesterday dude to illness.
He is expected to travel to Arizona this morning. So
if you're listening to us on your way to Burdbank
Airport you see a redheaded guy coughing in the departure
lounge muttering play calls and football plays to himself, that
(01:05:28):
might be Sean McVay back to you, guys, might.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Just need that hour nap on that flight as well.
Thanks so much, Ilo at Isaac Low and Cron He'll
have you more updates on whether that bunny gets to
fly next to Big Dom or not on the charter
as they get out here for Monday Night football again.
That one to close it out, Philadelphia and the Chargers
doc Rams Football nine and a half point favorites on
(01:05:52):
the road at Arizona. Jacoby Brissett and company have certainly
been interesting. Marvin Harrison's been out, but you're seeing more
of Will's and McBride with some ridiculous numbers Greg over
the course of the year, and it's gotten even better
when you talk about the operation with Brissett. He's up
to eighty eight catches on the year. On one hundred
(01:06:12):
and eighteen targets, but even bigger as he's been such
more so, much more a weapon in the red zone
than he ever has been. And we start getting into
the reports that Kyler Murray will probably be looking to
play football elsewhere in twenty twenty six. But for this one,
Matthew Stafford coming off of a tough one Devonte Adams
six games scoring streak with eleven touchdowns, which is absolutely asinine.
(01:06:36):
He's become the best low post player in the game,
better than anything I say in an NBA bit.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Well, you know, it's funny. We talked at the beginning
of our show today about the Cowboys and their back end.
You almost could say the same about the Rams. The
Rams have a really good front, really good front four,
very good front six, front seven. However they choose to play,
but their corners are you know again, and would you
call them a weakness? Maybe you would call them a weakness,
(01:07:03):
But it's an area you can exploit and we saw
that obviously last week against the Panthers. They didn't lose
that game because of their offense. When you put up
what they put up twenty eight or thirty one, I
feel what the final was. Yeah, you know, you expect
to win. Certainly the Rams would expect to win when
they put up twenty eight and Stafford maybe it wasn't
his best game, but it wasn't a poor game either.
(01:07:24):
One of the interceptions was tip, the other one was just,
you know, an inaccurate throw, not a bad read. But
you know they gave up those two big fourth down plays.
Both were functioned of corners, you know, not one was
four ites just getting beat on a fadeer out got
beat badly by Coker. So again it was their back
end that kind of struggled. Now they play a lot
(01:07:45):
of people on their back end, which tells you because
when you rotate at the corner position, Mike, that's telling
you you're not thrilled with your corner position.
Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Trying to find that the hot hand, as it were.
In some respects Rams give it up seven team five
per game down at the other end of the spectrum
bottom ten twenty five, Yeah, three per game for your
Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah. And you know, in Jacoby Brissett, I remember evaluating
him coming out of North Carolina State, and to be
honest with you, I thought he had a chance to
be a quality NFL starter. It hasn't quite worked out,
but he's the guy's gonna play probably as long as
he wants to play. You know, he could be this
year as George Bland, he could be. He could be
the backup quarterback when he's forty five.
Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
But you know, you put him out there, you can
line up and play with Jacoby Brissett. He's from everything
I understand, he's an unbelievable guy. Uh you know, and
then you're certainly you can you can line up and
play and win games with Jacoby Brissett. So he's played
reasonably well. You know. The whole Marvin Harrison thing is
one of the most confusing things I've seen because he's
(01:08:52):
just and I know he's been hurt over this last
month or so with first I guess, the epic, the epidectomy. Yeah,
and and now he's hurt as he's he due to
play today or not.
Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Last I saw he was still probably gonna miss it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Okay, I do so again the last and this this
was a different injury. This is not the epidectomy anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
So.
Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Uh So he's kind of had a lost second season,
but it's it's very now again when Kyler Murray's your quarterback.
It's very difficult because he's not he's not really a
progression reader. You don't really have a sustaining type pass game,
a calculated pass game with him. So we'll see what
happens going forward. But I agree with you, I think
we've probably seen the last of Kyler Murray as the
(01:09:33):
Cardinals quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Yeah, it looks like he's due to miss this one
again due to a heal injury. Okay, and they place
dorch on ir So now it's Xavier Weaver. He was
the next man up, and it looks like they've just
declared him out as well. So it's Trey McBride and
Michael Wilson against the world.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Well, I imagine there'll be other receivers that will actually
line up and play.
Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Yeah, but trying trying to decide, you know, one of
those uh you need your scorecard to know what the
rest of So it looks like here on their depth shot.
Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I mean they're gonna have to bring people up I'm
sure from their uh uh, you know, the practice squad.
So I don't know who's I don't know who's there,
but it's there'll be some names. I'm sure we do
not recognize.
Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Andre Bassellia, second year man out of Washington, is on
the depth chart, so maybe we get to see a
little bit of him.
Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Is any Isn't he a singer?
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Well yeah, I mean you're you're gonna go all classical?
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but yeah, so we'll be we'll
see some we'll see some names we don't recognize, and uh,
you know, I'm not even sure who they'll be.
Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
No, it's curious to watch that depth chart because again,
Weaver was the guy they were gonna call up. Uh
and now he's been declared out. So curious for the
times for Jacoby Brissett and company. Bam Knight, you're leading
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you know, going back to the rams just to put
the bow on it. Some units got to be last.
(01:11:30):
It's kind of like that last guy in a medical
school that's still going to be doctor if he passes through.
He's still a doctor. And watched the Sheepskins on the wall.
You have no idea of.
Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Knowing, Greg, that's exactly right, that's exactly right. Well, we'll see,
you know, the Rams. There's a couple you know again,
a couple of weeks. It's not this Thursday, I don't think,
but it's the following Thursday. And we'll see what happens
in the next you know, today and next week. But
the Rams and the Seahawks play, I believe on a Thursday,
the night game, and that could be a very very
(01:12:02):
big one.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
There you go, as we get ready for that Seahawks
on the road today at Atlanta. Forty five and a half.
Your total Seahawks nearly a touchdown favor in this one.
Sam Darnold and company. Jsn's been ridiculous. I know fantasy
owners were salty last week. A smallest effort there going
up against this Atlanta squad and Captain Kirk Cousins. Once again,
(01:12:25):
it seems like a place for the Seahawks defense to
do some damage. B John Robinson really the only weapon
that you've got on that squad right now. Drake London
set to miss that game.
Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah, Well, their offense since Cousins took over, is totally different.
He's under center, there's much more play action, the run
game is a little more of what it is with
the outside zone. So there, you know, Kirk Cousins is
a professional quarterback. I mean it's and their old line
is not bad. So obviously they don't have a lot
of weapons on the outside right now. But Seattle's defense
(01:12:57):
is very, very good. They are another one of these
teams and this is a trend in the league, Mike,
that play what we call big nickel. They play with
three safeties basically is their base defense and their nickel defense.
And nick I Minwari is their guy. He's this, you
know by trade of safety, but he's essentially their nickel
corner as well versus pass. Now, they do play dime
(01:13:20):
when they get to long yardage, but their nickel is
is their base is big nickel, and their nickel is
big nickel. So we're seeing that more and more in
the league.
Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
I'm gonna start calling someone big nickel. I don't know
who's getting that nickname. This what be you ed Greg
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(01:13:52):
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A couple last games to get through here as we're
counting down the hours to kick off, Miami playing some
inspired football of late, the rubber meets the road when
we talk about the Jets and where they're at with
Tarad Taylor, but a lot of talk once again of
can do a win in the cold? Seventeen touchdowns, fourteen interceptions,
(01:16:04):
Mike McDaniel and company. They're playing some better football, but
for the Jets under Gerrod Taylor, a little bit of
stability and ad Ni Mitchell remember, hey do you drop
the ball?
Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Cults all the time, going all the way back with
that early season loss. Suddenly he's their number one guy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
You know, he's very gifted athletically. I had a chance
actually to speak to him at the Combine two years
ago when he came out. He's a very impressive athlete.
When I did his tape coming out of college, I
thought he had a chance to be a very good player.
I don't know what happened to Indianapolis. They were just
a lot of talk with young guys. Sometimes you hear,
well he doesn't know what it means to be a pro,
that kind of talk. But he's big, he can run,
(01:16:42):
He's gifted. But I think one of the players that
you know, not a lot of people are talking about
on the other side of the ball and it's having
a sensational year is Devin h Chen and he's got
over a thousand yards. He's averaging over five and a
half yards per rush. You know, Miami with two and
needs a run game. And Mike McDaniel is a savant
when it comes to the run game, So he's just
(01:17:04):
one of those players. They get him to the perimeter too,
and he and Gibbs are probably the two backs in
the league that have terrifying speed.
Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Yeah, you look at a chan and some of those
big runs. One of what did I have it at?
I think it's five running backs already over one thousand
yards for the five season. I'm very excited about that, Greg,
because we got a couple that may join them today
whenever we start seeing more running backs over one thousand
yards one and you know, it's like the bell ringing
in It's a wonderful life. And Angel gets his wing
(01:17:34):
and Mikey Harmon cries a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Because and I'm sure you had Travante Williams is one
of those guys before the season, did you not, Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Absolutely yeah, I had him, no question, fifteen hundred yard guy, right,
all right, A couple of least games to get you Denver,
Las Vegas. We talked about all the chaos there Bo
Nixon Company and that offense getting it done. RJ. Harvey's
Harvey's now in the backfield. Washington gets Hayden Daniels back
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a little bit intrigued there for sure. He and Terry
mcglure going up against the floor as defense.
Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, just to make a quick comment about the Raiders,
you know, and I'm sure this will be viewed as
a bold, controversial statement, but it's just what I see
on tape. And I know the old line for the
Raiders has not been very good this year at all.
I understand that, and maybe that's worn on Ashton genty.
But the last game I watched, which was obviously last
week against the Chargers, he did not look particularly quick.
Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
I don't know if he's worn out. Obviously, for a
lot of college players, this probably seems like another season
by now, and that's you know, these guys have a
tough time with that at times. But he just did
not look the same as we expect gent to look.
And I'll be very curious to see how he finishes
this season.
Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Top matchup tonight or later on today against Denver, He's
averaging three point five yards per carry. He only has
one run over twenty yards.
Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Very very surprising. Been now. I'll be the first to
admit I didn't love him the way everybody else did
coming out, but still I liked him. I didn't think
he was going to be a bad back, but he
just doesn't look the same.
Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Tampa Bay's offense still trying to get off the mat.
Baker Mayfield and company hosts the Saints and the greatness
that is Tyler Shuck with Vele and those guys running
them up. But for Baker Mayfield, still waiting for the
reinforcements and the cavalry to arrive. They will not do
so today as Evans and McMillan still coming back from
(01:19:28):
their injuries.
Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
But Bucky Irving being back's a big deal, and you
saw that last week. He just gives them a lot
of juice in the backfield. But you're right, the pass
game has not been what it was through the first
part of the season.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Yeah, even Abuka has slowed down market, as fantasy owners
can tell you. To that end, any fantasy classes. Get
him in, I'll sit for a bit and go through
him at Swollen Home. I've got a couple to get
to from this morning. I appreciate you all out there,
and certainly we appreciate you giving us your time. Greg.
Another fun two hours, gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Fourteen always fun. What are you seeing that time of year?
Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Yeah, exactly, it's winning time. Hey find the man. A
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Good morning and
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Harmon alongside Greg Cosell. Happy to be with you here,
and what is a big showdown show me Sunday. I
thought I should wear a suit today because well, it's
(00:21):
a lot of filibustering, feeling like I should be on
Capitol Hill with all the last second chaos in the
college football world. We'll get the revealing of the playoffs
structure a little later on this morning and in the
early afternoon, right as you get ready for Week fourteen
of your National Football League season. Greg, ready for a
big one today, weather in a couple of spots playoff
(00:45):
battles and jockeying for position, and some teams that we
still have giant question marks like they're the Riddler of
the old nineteen sixties Batman series, Frank Gorshen running amuck.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There you go, pow wham. You're not really wear in
a suit, are you? No.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I debated it, and then I said, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Uh, you know, well, you know you want to class
it up once in a while. Well, you know, why
would we want to do that?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That? That is one of the joys of working in radio, right,
the uh, the old voice who's heard but never seen
to go, there you go, the Harry chapin w O
L D.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
There you go. That's a very good reference. That's a
very good reference.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
One of my favorites, The Greatest Stories Live Go add
it to your playlist. People here, yeah and go get
some singer songwriter in you. And The Travels of a
Weary Radio Man one of his big hits that I enjoyed,
And certainly every once in a while you feel like
you're living it. It's like, all right, let's go, let's
jack it up for another day. We've got the Abu
(01:48):
Dhabi Grand Prix, the season finale of F one later
on again the playoffs, and between the Alabama stands the
Texas stands, noted Miami. Just it's more just the idea
that I you know, you gotta get you get your
best suit on, Greg to make your arguments. I actually
(02:08):
started reading as I was sitting in the parking lot
getting a first sip of coffee. Someone wrote what appears
to be about a thirty five page missive of why
Vanderbilt is criminally underrated. In all this process, So and
then I said, no, it's time to go to work
and they're not getting in, So it really doesn't matter. Now, prob,
you may win the Heisman, but it may not matter.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, whenever there's a finite number of teams, as there
always is, you know, that are picked and you know,
not based on record like the NFL that are picked,
there's always going to be debates and arguments and people
pissed off. That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Always the rule of thumb that we take from boxing.
Never let it go to the judges. There you go
win your games.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We don't have any of this, but that's it always
goes to the judges in college football. So you know,
I'm sure at some point they'll probably expand twelve to
sixteen and then there'll still be debates and arguments. Oh look,
it's like the NCAA basketball torn when they expanded to
sixty four and there's always debates. You know, it's just
the way it is.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, I was kind of hoping by the end of
it all, Greg that we just get guys in the
cage like it's the UFC little professional wrestling, or to
go back to Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, two men enter
one man leads whoever walks out that cage their team
gets represented. But we'll watch that a little later on today.
The aforementioned Pavia is the current odds leader for the Heisman,
(03:27):
as you didn't get much of a show in that
Indiana Ohio state finish from the other contenders atop the heap,
so we'll keep an eye on that and information starting
to flow and leans and leaks out of those rooms
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(04:14):
breakdown and tape breakdown. We got you for the next
two hours, are going to do a lot of that
hit a little bit in the rewind as we go
back to Thursday night, but big preview, big week ahead
here Week fourteen of the NFL season. We're keenly aware
of all your fantasy lineup quandaries. So as we hit
some of the principles, take the little insights and knowledge
(04:35):
that Greg's going to drop and some stats that I'll
fire off at you, and I'll stick around in the
studio for a while after at Swollen Dome to answer
any of those lineup questions that you have, because then
you have someone to blame if it all goes wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's why I stay away from the fantasy stuff. Mike,
I'll leave that to you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Hey, I'll tell I'll wear it. I've always argued, going
back to the first day I did this, I'm the
arguments about a player and if he doesn't performance, his fault.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, it's funny too, Yesterday. On Saturdays, a lot
of times I go to Barnes and Noble. That's kind
of like my happy place on a Saturday. You know. Yes,
I love going to the bookstore, and you know, and
so of course I see a lot of the same
people because I'm there at the same time every Saturday
for the most part, so you know, you know how
it is in a bookstore, it's like, hey, how are
You don't necessarily know the people, but you kind of
(05:25):
know them just for that the two hours that you're there. Sure,
so of course I get the question from a gentleman
sitting next to me, you know, well, what's wrong with
the Eagles? And you know, these are conversations I normally
don't like to have because there's never one answer to that,
you know, as you know, I mean, you know me
well enough now to know that there's never one answer
to any of these issues when the team's playing well
(05:47):
or a team's playing poorly. But I never want to be,
you know, not a nice guy and talk to people,
you know, because I never want to be that guy
that's kind of you know, brushes people off. But I
never know how to answer those questions when I get
as that, because I think people expect, you know, a
ten word answer that encompasses everything, and there's just not
those kinds of answers.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
How much time do you have and if you have
the nine bucks that it's going to cost for this
cup of coffee and a score, all right, exactly, And
then where's the whiteboard? Come on, let's.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Write I usually go with the grilled cheese sandwich, you know,
and it celebrates and the celebration cupcake.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You got to have the celebration cupcake. Oh see, there
we go. See now we've got the menu items out right.
That's right, perfectly. You're a beautiful Sunday morning. We appreciate
you all being with us wherever however you're listening the
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Speaker 1 (06:35):
We know you have a lot of choices in your
entertainment world. We're glad you take a few minutes to
sit down with us. Hopefully you take some insights and
a few laughs along the way, and never a shortage
of pop culture and classic rock little notes as we
go through. And then it's probably some holiday holiday holiday
fair mixed in as well. But let's hit the rewind
(06:55):
button if we can, very quick. Care to get things started.
Let's go to the winning side first in a huge game.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Golf up under center, single back kids, they give it
to Jamir, run it outside, got a blocker down of
the tenth to the five to the end zone. Wave
to him.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
He's gone baby touchdown Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Tristan Cologne with a nice block to help springing thirteen.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yards and the Lions can double up their lead with
the extra point. Lions Radio Network on the call. Gibbs
seven for seventy seven in the passing game twelve forty
three but three touchdowns, had a nineteen yard run. Bottled
up for much of the day, but very effective in
the red zone as he is a bit slipper, and
you hear it on the call there Jared Goff goes
(07:37):
for three h nine Greg. But when we get down
to it, the extra juice that Jamir Gibbs brings. We've
been talking about it all season and here it was
on full display on a Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You know, it's funny he actually was way less than
twelve for forty three because that nineteen yarder actually was
a swing screen pass. He just happened to catch it
a yard behind GoF so they made it a running play.
So really they really bottled him up for the most
part in their run game. But you know, a couple
of things really stood out when I watched that tape.
Number one, the Lions are so good with what I
(08:09):
call conventional play action, meaning GoF under center. He's got
the second most conventional play action dropbacks of any quarterback
in the league. Only Stafford has more, and he's phenomenal
over seventy four percent completion percentage, ten yards per attempt,
eight touchdowns, one interception. That's really a foundation of their offense.
The other thing that stands out, and we've probably discussed
(08:31):
this before, Mike, when a team has and I'm talking
to Cowboys now, when a team has a flaw, a weakness,
or just an area that's not particularly strong, as the
Cowboys do with their back end the secondary, any given
week that can be exposed. And that's what happened in
this game on a number of plays. Their back end
(08:52):
is just not strong enough to match their front, and
they don't have a great edge pass rush either. So
when you combine those two things, any given week, those
issues can crop up, you know. And it's funny. They've
been playing Revel now, the rookie who's back from that
major injury he suffered in college, And you know, it's funny.
The more I watched him, the more I just feel
(09:14):
like he's very long, but he's very stiff. He's very
high cut. He's very upright. His hips are really tight,
and it showed up in this game. I mean, obviously
you've got to defend some really good receivers in Williams
Saint Brown. I mean, these are guys that are difficult
to defend. But the Cowboys back end is just not
(09:34):
quite good enough. And any given week, and it happened
this week, it can just be a problem.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, I couldn't get home, clearly, Jared Goss sacked once,
but a lot of time to operate the return of
am On Ross Saint Brown, even up till the deadline
ninety minutes before kicking a lot of questions as whether
he'd play, he gets that scripted play right off the jump,
and I mean you could hear that place explode after
that for reception. He ends up going for six for
(10:02):
ninety two in that one.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know, they played twenty one snaps with six offensive linemen,
which you know, again, since they lost, they've lost their
two top tight ends. I guess, well, report is out
for the year. I guess brock Wright is on IR
so I don't know what his status is. But they
still played with some tight ends. Obviously, It's not as
if they don't have any tight ends, so they played
with Ross Terwelli and Anthony Ferkser, but they played twenty
(10:26):
one snaps with Dan Skipper as their six offensive linemen.
So that's obviously, you know, a change they made because
they don't have Laporte and right.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, I was curious also, you said the six offensive lineman.
I got to be honest selfishly, I was really hoping
to see Frank rag Now somehow find his way back
into the field when that report came. We had Jay
Glazer on with us earlier in the week. He was
talking about how he was trying to convince him I'm
good enough to go. I'll tolerate the pain, Like, dude,
it's grade three. What are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah? Well, I mean that was you know when you
heard that, that was interesting because obviously he hasn't played football,
so that must be an injury that just hasn't healed.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
How about that? That is crazy?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, So but anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Either that or he's got some really interesting hobbies off
the field, right right right right on the other side. Conversely,
we watched the Dallas Cowboys forty four to thirty is
your final? Prescott goes for three seventy six to touchdown.
The two interceptions, you can argue neither of them should
go on him, but unfortunately, that's the way football is played,
that's the way they score it. And we move on.
(11:30):
But there's one play in particular. We want to take
the large thirty thousand foot view from it, but we've
got to hear the play. First off on the.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Thirty one yard line, pressed Doun airing it at deep
the field. Yeah, Nis was deff and covered complete.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, we get that cool sound effect mixed in like
someone had a drum. I don't know. It was like
insert your classic rock song, maybe a little Fleetwood getting
after it. But the George Pickens play, he finishes on
the night, he's got five catches, just thirty seven yards
on his nine target ceedee Lamb left with a pretty
scary and yeah, crushion six for one one for him
(12:13):
before he departed that one contorting his body trying to
get back on a ball that Dak had put out
to the outside. Uh, and then he lands and you
see the fencing posture and all those we've come to know. Greg.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That's always really difficult to watch and you just feel
really badly because that's not that any concussion is okay,
but that you know, when you see that, as we
know we remember when that happened with Tua, it just
it just really makes you feel terrible. But you know,
I thought this was an interesting game for the Lions. Obviously,
they're they're playing with some backups in their secondary. They
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played a ton of what we call two man coverage,
which is man to man across the board with two
deep safeties. That was far and away their most played coverage,
you know, and there so, which is really actually a
very good coverage to play when you don't feel that
your corners are are good enough just to line up
and play pure man. And you know, their pass rushes
(13:11):
is interesting. You know, they do some things with pressure
with four man pressures what we call sim pressure zone,
exchange pressures, some five man pressures, and you know, watching
this game, you know, and again I see this every
week because I watch them every week. But thinking back
to that draft mic where they drafted Jamir Gibbs and
Jack Campbell and everybody said, what are they doing. They're
(13:32):
drafting a running back and a linebacker in the first round.
You know, don't you know, you don't do that, you know,
I guess that's kind of worked out.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, Yeah, that Campbell kid, he joined us on the
show after the game. He's starting to become friend of
the show. Go hawk Eyes twelve theres you got six solo.
He had a sack and the you know, the tackle
for loss. So a big game for him, and that
that front came up big. They pressured back all day,
(13:59):
which helped, UH to alleviate some of the stress on
that back end. Like you said, you add the alignment
plus the pressure up front. Uh did a good job
to keep DAK firing. But be remiss, we didn't pull
it out from the larger picture. The one play for
George Pickens there in the final throes of the game.
Greg has been dissected every way till Sunday as to
(14:22):
what was said or what was what his read was
on the play. Certainly he took to Instagram and Shottenheimer
addressed him to that responded some Richard Sherman comments. But
the play overall for George Pickens in this game, there
were there were times that, uh, you know, effort is
always something that you know, difficult to quantify, and and
you know, I look, they're they're in between the white lines.
(14:43):
I can only try to speculate so much. But it
seemed like there were a couple of opportunities perhaps uh
left on the field there, but that play in particular
getting the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, I don't, you know, to be honest with you, Mike,
I don't get into that because you know, you don't
know what's in the guy's head. You don't know any
of that stuff. So, you know, I just I wouldn't
know how to respond to that. You know, I've been
asked that over the years about particular players. I just,
you know, because if you're going to say something negative
about a guy's effort, that is the ultimate knock on
(15:16):
a player, to say that he's really not trying, okay,
And unless you know that, that's just such an easy
thing to say because you have no accountability once you
say that, you know, you put it out there, and
and now that's a knock on a player when it
may or may not be true. So I don't go there,
and I'm just being honest. That's not something I will
ever address.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, it's just that difficulty, given that you've had a
lot of good will with the you know what he'd
put on tape through the year, and certainly some statistics
where we're talking about the thirty five to million thirty
five to forty million dollar range for the next contract
that Jerry will have to decide on. And in a
big spotlight game with playoff implications that you know, I mean,
(15:58):
nobody becomes that eyebrow r.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I guess, Mike, no one said how great he was
the week prior against the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day, when
he you know, was obviously a huge factor in their win.
See that's the thing. It's always easy to be negative,
as you well know. I mean, look, yeah, you do
radio every day, you know, it's so easy to be negative.
And once that's out there, players have to live with
(16:22):
that and then they have to discuss it. And to me,
you know, I'm not a big fan of that.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I try to delve in the positivity and then you know,
you just try to ask why, like if you see
anything where there's a consistency and those kind of things,
and I generally leave the full brow beating of things
to the others. Yeah, Greg for sure, but you know,
in that particular case, like I don't know what he sees,
(16:48):
you know, where he's reading, if he's looking at it
from a perspective ball do you have these second defensive
back coming back over, et cetera. But certainly a play
that's gotten a run in a back and forth as
the Cowboys look to extend, but overall a night for
the Lions a week before that, their toughness being questioned
(17:11):
by former players. That's where it's always interesting to me.
Where the former players starts chiming in. I'm like, are
you just doing this because you want your podcast or
your TV ratings to and Q rate to jump off?
Or is this legitimately you're trying to tell us something
from people you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And again, that's something else. Obviously it seems to carry
more weight when a former player says it, but you
know they're not in the locker room anymore. They don't
really know the answer to those questions. You know, it's
for years and people now know what I do because
I've been doing it for years. But when I first
started doing a lot of radio and people weren't exactly
sure what I did, I'd get a lot of questions about, well,
(17:51):
is he a leader? You know, the character of a player,
And I'm like, I can't answer that. You know, you
have to be in the locker room every day to
know that well. And just to just make a definitive
response about that based on an interview or based on
what you think you saw in a game, to me,
is just really a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
See, unless you got the full scone and coffee treatment
there you go, and your celebration cupcake, you couldn't answer
that question. Hey, Barnes and Noble, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You need the celebration cup I can't even speak until
I have the celebration cupcake.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, that's it. I mean, look, I need my money
up front. That's right, right, old o, the show business rule.
Get get paid upfront. And then all right for the
Cowboys coming up, you got Minnesota the Chargers, and then
road games against Washington and the Giants to finish off
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(18:46):
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to seven. We got four teams on buy once again,
so we'll keep an eye on the schedule, a lot
of weather issues. But coming up next Ken Joe Burrow.
(19:06):
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on the road against Buffalo. Talk about a showdown two
heavyweight quarterbacks. How's it play out? What are we looking
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o'clock Eastern time for a roll through there on some
of the biggest plays and breakdowns. GREG game that has
my peaked interest is that game in Buffalo a little
later on today, the Cincinnati Bengals coming off that huge
Thanksgiving win, rolling over those Baltimore Ravens. Now, we look
(20:57):
at the Bills, a six point favorite at home. Whether
you know, it's starting to get to that time of
year where you've got to check all of the reports
and see what kind of chaos may unfold. So across
the league we got likely snow. It's gonna be about
thirty degrees, So bundle up out there, get your your
best warming beverages and and handwarmers going. I was at
(21:21):
a soccer game here in southern California where people busting
out the big hand warmers last night. I'm like, well,
it's like still like fifty. We've gotten so soft, but
it is what it is. You know it is you
adapt adapt your environments, no question about. But for this
one a lot made you know. When we look at
(21:43):
the Buffalo Bills week to week trying to guess what
we have Cincinnati, it's the first time we that the
whole band will be together this season. We talked about
Yoshavas as part of the equation last week. We've seen
Jamar Chase and what he's doing week to week. Tea
Higgins is back and Joe Burrow obviously the head of
(22:03):
the Snake with Chase Brown in the backfield, six straight
games with him with over one hundred total yards, so
balance in the offensive side of things, helping to at
least offset some of those defensive deficiencies.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, and obviously with Burrow you always have a puncher's
chance because he's so good. There may not be a
better quarterback in the league in the pre snap phase
of the game understanding what he's seeing. And one of
the things though with Sean McDermott in his defense is
he's one of the best in the league at changing
the picture pre snap to post snap, and he does
it in subtle ways now and Burrow's always been very
(22:40):
good at innately recognizing that and being able to know
where to go with the ball. The other thing Burrow
always does, he understands the NFL game. If he has
one on one with his receivers outside the numbers Mike,
he's throwing the football and obviously when you have Chase
and Higgins, you've got two very good receivers. But he
is not shy. He's aggressive the other side of the ball.
(23:01):
To me, I don't know how you feel, is really
fascinating because it's clear that the Bills just do not
believe in their receiving corps at all because they've got
the most physically gifted quarterback in the league and Josh
Allen and essentially they're playing I don't want to say
to hide them, but really not to have the pass
game be a big factor in the games unless it's
(23:23):
absolutely needed. So if it's not needed, they don't really
have Josh Allen drop back very much. So I think
they're telling us how they feel about their receivers. But
their run game is fascinating. Just a quick X and
O point. For a number of weeks we saw them
run this staple play. It was basically what we call
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a counter gap scheme where they had Hawes and gilliam
bea pullers and rappers. And then last week they had
forty one rushes against the Steelers, thirty two by James
Cook and nine by Ray Davis. They did not pull
an offensive lineman one time in the entire forty one rushes.
Now again, they were playing with backup tackles, and I
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know Dian Dawkins is back today, but I was just
fascinated by the fact that they had a totally different
run game. And you have to give much tribute to
Aaron Kromer, who's their O line coach, and he's been
doing it for years and years in this league.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, we go back to one of the greatest pieces
of advice I ever got at a training camp, you know,
as a little kid out and you know, looking at
the Bears and trying to get some autographs on the
giant sheet of paper after the the the process. Gregan Reedy, sorry,
the great offensive lineman. Yeah, Sun, never stand in front
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of the pulling guard.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And you've lived up to that. I imagine you probably
don't stand in front of a lot of pulling guards.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, you got to keep those seat moving, you know,
try to swim past him. All big ten at Illinois
before becoming a member of the Bears. One of my
favorite moments, and really it's pretty they like forest back then, yeah,
that would have been like forest.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, I've been out there, yep, Yeah, all.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Those years ago. We used to go once or twice
a year. My grandpa would lotus in the car and
we did the day of it. And you know, back
then you had even more access. Now you're you literally
were on the sidelines. Now you're you know, miles from nowhere,
and a lot of these and even that, a lot
of the teams do one or two big public practices.
Everything else is back in the bubbles. So well, well
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you still had that go take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Just to wrap up about the Bills, it'll be interesting
today again, who knows about the weather. Maybe it's not
going to be conducive to throwing the ball, who knows.
But but the thing about the Bengals is they don't
rush the quarterback particularly well, and their back end has
been very, very up and down. So it'll be interesting
to me. And we don't know the answer to this.
How the Bills decide to play. Do they still play
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with the idea that we're really not going to use
the passing game unless it's absolutely necessary, or do they
look at that defense and think, you know what, we
can still do some things even though our receiving corps
is not really that good. But to me, that's one
of the fascinating elements of this game.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, Kinkaid gonna give it a go in the warm ups.
Perhaps that'll be a little bit of a booth. Yes,
we saw Keon Coleman with the touchdown reception. For all
of the missteps and deactivations and everything, Greg, he's still
their number two receiver behind Shakir with his fifty five
catches five hundred and sixty nine yards. Joe Burrow two
career games against Sean McDermott two and oho five ninety
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four touchdowns, seur picks and a key quarterback rating of
one hundred and six.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, that Borrow guy's pretty good. So we'll see how
it goes in this game. And obviously he's got his
guys back. One of the interesting things. And you know,
it was probably more fluky than anything else. But even
though you know they won the game the week prior
against the Ravens on Thursday night, they were only one
for six in the red zone in terms of touchdown efficiency.
I'm sure they're working on that area, but Burrow was
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terrific on the down against the Ravens. I mean, he's
just one of those guys. So we'll see. This is it.
It's a game unless weather plays a major factor where
you're not going to think that this is going to
be a thirteen to ten game.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
As I look at what the forecast is for this one,
it looks like about a nine mile an hour win.
So we're both both quarterbacks who can cut through that
for sure. Yeah, and the opportunity to make some hay downfield,
no question. Now you mentioned the Baltimore Ravens circling back,
big showdown for them, six and six battle in the
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AFC North, and I think one guy's gonna have to
come up huge. La Mark quick toss.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Henry left side, cuts it along the numbers, finds a
gap piece of the twenty ten five touchdown.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Derrick Conray.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
There you go, Ravens Radio Network on the call, Derrick
Henry for the year, he's got four one hundred yard games,
ten touchdowns, averaging four point seven yards per carry. Congratulations.
The Mark Andrews, you know, the other rush because he
had a big contract signed this week. Thirty seven catches
for him on the year. As they try to keep
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pushing a little bit. You look at Zay Flowers being
their leader for Pittsburgh, all the questions Aaron Rodgers and
the injury and playing through We've talked a lot about
the air yards per attempt, completing about two thirds of
his pass attempts, but his yardage right now ranks twenty third.
And the rushing attack what has been the hallmark of
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Pittsburgh low these many years. Greg sitting down there at
ninety three point eight yards per game. That's twenty eighth
in your National Football League.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, they I mean, I'm just being honest. There are
difficult offense to watch right now. They hardly play out
of eleven personnel with three wide receivers. They have the
lowest percentage in the league. They are a big boy offense.
They play a ton with big people. You know, they
play a lot with two tight ends, with three tight ends.
They obviously want to run. The football game has been
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for the most part, relatively anemic. They don't work the
middle of the field. They certainly again I'm not there,
so I don't know how they structure this during the week,
but just in terms of production, however they choose to
go about orchestrating their past game, they've certainly not gotten
what I think they expected from DK Metcalf. So you know,
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it's an offense that, as I said, is a little
difficult to watch. You don't know what you're going to
get week to week. We'll see. But the Ravens are
interesting as well. You know, Lamar has been fascinating since
he's been back, and I know he's still fighting injuries.
He misses a lot of practice, so maybe he's still hurt.
There are times he doesn't look quite as explosive as
we know that he is. And last week I thought,
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which was very surprising to me, he missed some kind
of layup throws, you know, routine throws where receivers were open,
which he normally does not do. I mean, over these
last number of years, he's been very, very efficient from
the pocket, and he's just missed some throws. So this
is I mean, obviously this is almost a playoff game
for these two teams, given there both six and six.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, as we watch this roll up, Metcalf just forty
five catches a little over six hundred yards on the season,
the deep ball is certainly not there with a level
of effectiveness from Aaron Rodgers talking about the air yards
per attempt and getting the ball out quickly. But you know,
from the raven side of things, we can only look
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at what's on the tape.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
It's as you talk about effort, it's also the you know,
once you're out there, I don't have a doctor's like,
you're not getting a doctor's note from me? No, No,
what I can do? So from Tart Jackson missing all
these practices and whatever, you're seeing it on Sundays, you
know where he's not getting to the edge, he's not
taking the unless it's a full give me layup running
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attempt where we're not getting that same level of explosiveness.
That really changes the complexion of that offense.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
No, and you're one hundred percent right, And I'm glad
you said that, because the bottom line is, if you're playing,
players will tell you this, coaches will tell you this.
If you're playing, there's no excuses, you know, either if
you're injured, don't play. If you're playing, you can't say, well, gee,
I wasn't that good, because you know my leg heart
you can't do that. So I'm curious to see if
the back Mitchell plays a little more because he's got
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a lot of juice and he had the eighteen yard
touchdown last week against Cincinnati, and he can run. He's
a good receiver as well, so I'm wondering if he'll
get a few more snaps just to try to get
a little more explosiveness in their offense.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
All right, we'll give it the minute it's due, as
we try to cover each and every game. That's what
the clock on the wall tells me. Tennessee and Cleveland
over under his thirty four, does Miles Garrett break the
sack record today? Cam Ward's got forty eight on the year.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, that's gonna be interesting when you're dealing with two quarterbacks.
And it's a little more bothersome with cam Ward because
he's played more two quarterbacks that and you'd expect it
with your dr Sanders because he doesn't have experience. He
has played, but they both still play at college speed. Uh,
And I think that's been a concern with cam Ward
even this late in the season, with all his starts.
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You know, it just you have to play quicker. It's
the old be quick, but don't hurry John Wooden line,
You've got to get back in the you got to
get back in the pocket. You got to play in
your back foot, you got you got to get yourself
away from the bodies. You know, in college you don't
necessarily need to do that. Everything shotgun. Everything's kind of
leisurely with sadr you'd expect it. You know, there's no
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issue with Schadur at this point, he's played two games.
Uh so the fact that he's not seeing it great,
that he's not playing with a calmness that you'd want. Hey,
that's normal. You know, that's not a referendum on his career.
That's normal for where he is right now with cam Ward.
He's just on a bad team. And you're right about
Miles Garrett. Uh, they're going to have to do something
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when it's pure pass or third and long. They cannot
have their two tackles Latham and more block him one
on one. You just can't do that.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, it's a difficult proposition, no question about it. Thirty
four Again, the total weather potentially there, it'll be gold
there in Cleveland, and you can also get in if
you want to see Miles Garrett potentially break the sack record.
You can get in for eight dollars, Greg.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, there's like ten, well ten games where it's about
one hundred or less the Bears Packers. I was looking
at it the other day. If I was in the Midwest,
Lois get In was one fifty eight. Wow, I'll be
cold as hell.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
But it's that time of year.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's you know, so folks giving up their tickets even
for that match up a little bit based on whether
heck to watch that on TV. Nice?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You mean you're not going to fly up to Green
Bay and sit there without your shirt on.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Mike, Well, you know, I'm a powerful and attractive man,
but yeah, the camera would find me and you might
miss some important wrapped down on the play. I mean alignment. No, no, no,
My days of craziness are over. I am actually in.
Once upon a time, there's an NCAA football game put
out by EA Sports. It was Bill Walsh's College Football
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USA and it was the first time Northwestern and then
a bunch of the teams were included. When you make
a big play and there's a fan base group of idiots,
it's me and my buddies. That guy, well, there you go,
So hey, can you get me a free game? Greg?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
You're famous, your famous.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, hopefully we're doing some good work here that we
can extend on the face painted lunacy of a man
child once upon a time at Greg Cosell where you
find him on Twitter, find me over at swall on.
Last one from that game, chimer DK, a little bit
of celebration moments for those returners making big plays. He's
almost at two thousand all purpose yards for the season.
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Just your one last note as we can continue, and well,
consider that game occupied and done. As we continue, we've
got the play of the day, and we continue across
the National Football League with a big AFC battle. We'll
do that next here up.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
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Speaker 1 (35:15):
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where you find them find me over at Swollen Dome.
But now we take a pause, go to the college
world for a moment for the play of the day.
Let's hear it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
An Mendoza takes the stat wants to throw it, fires
it down the field.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It's free.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Elijah Serati the.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Surret seventeen yard protein today Indiana's.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Bat final score thirteen to ten, and that one Indiana wins.
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way tire buying should be greg in the postgame, I
love the Mendoza. A little snippet that's made the rounds
about a minute twenty seconds long. It starts off with
a lot of emotion, then turns into a WWE shoot interview,
praising his teammates, ready to fight through and with anybody
right all about blue and holding together.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Well, who would have thought that Indiana would be the
number one seed? I guess is what we would call
it these days, because they will be when it's announced
today at noon, So gonna be pretty fascinating.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Mendoza one of the guys who keep my I on
not only for the heisman. Right now, Pavia from Vandy
takes a little bit of a lead because you get
saying and Mendoza kind of go into a draw here.
But Indiana beats Ohio State for the first time since
nineteen eighty eight, when young Anthony Thompson was running wild
like hulking.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I remember him, I remember him very well.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Was years ago.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yep, yep, that was I'm not sure a lot of
people thought that game would be thirteen ten though last night,
not that we thought it'd be forty five forty. But
there's not a lot of offense in that game.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, you know, coming in I saw the forty eight.
We talked about it Smith and I on our show
on Friday, and I'm like, at forty eight seems awful high.
Now was I expecting thirteen ten? No, but certainly grinded
out kind of a fair twenty nine or twenty seven
yard field goal that gets missed a lot of chaos, certainly,
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and we wait for the results and the final playoff
structure a little later on today.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I guess the big question is is Ohio state two
or three given what Georgia did yesterday? So I guess
we're gonna find that out at noon Eastern today.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, impressive Georgia win over Alabama with one of the
dads from my daughter's soccer squad, whearing is bulldog's sweatshirt.
He comes running up to be like, yeah, it's like
at that point, it wasn't even halftime, and he.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Was all right, right, Well, it seemed to be over
pretty early in that one.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, there's no question about it, all right. Another team,
Another big battle that we have going on AFC South
Indy Indianapolis. Bolt's a narrow favorite on the road at Jacksonville.
Let's have a quick Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Love shotgun for Mason in a two tight end set
for Trevor Lawrence dropping to throw.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Trevor looks, looks lots of time. How far is back corner?
The ends over in the middle of the ends on
touchdown Breenton Strange in the middle of the field. What
twenty one yard touchdown catch? Welcome back Brenton Strange trying
to find some level of consistency. Maybe him being healthy
is what they get to balance out Etn and Tooting.
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What they've had. Trevor Lawrence a couple of back to
back strong games for him, He's taken a bunch of
sacks over the year, and we've got seven players between
eighteen and thirty six receptions. Jacobe Meyer still finding his
way in there, Greg, But a huge showdown here because
people jumping off the Indianapolis bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, I'm not sure a lot of people realize how
good the Jaguars defense has been. I know it's always
a focus on the quarterbacks, Mike, but their defense has
been really, really good, especially their run defense. I think
their first year coordinator, Anthony Campanelli has done a terrific
job too with pressure concepts. But you know, I think
the way it's played out with Liam Cohen this year,
they want to be a running football team. They have
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two explosive backs in Atn and Tooting, and I think
they would love to play in games where Lawrence drops
back thirty or less times. I think that's the way
they would ideally like to play.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, grinding down. He's at fifty nine point seven percent
completion eight last couple of weeks. As you bring Meyers
back in and Strange on that play, it's like perhaps
a little more continuity and they can start pulling the
strings a little more. Hey, with the iHeartRadio app stream
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As we continue, Yeah, we take our trip to the
NFC North, the battle for first place and my soul
next on Fox Ratings. Welcome in hour two of the program.
As we roll on, it is a beautiful Fox Football Sunday,
Week fourteen of your National Football League season at Swollen Dome.
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If you have any of those fantasy quandaries where you
want need some advice or someone to blame, I'm your guy.
I'll be your huckleberry. As the kids say, all right,
actually that's an old movie at this point, but Hey,
maybe you're just seeing it for the first time. It's
new to you. Like NBC used to say, they do
rerun season in the summertime. Mike Garbin Greag co sell
(41:04):
with you at Greg co Cell where you find him
NFL Films forty six years, the NFL Matchup Show, the
appearances that he makes always love the back and forth
he and Ross Tucker, and then of course he joins
Colin Cowhard one o'clock Eastern time every Thursday for fifteen
to twenty minutes a breakdown. Colin calls it his best
fifteen minutes of the week. That's pretty lofty praise for
(41:26):
you there, Greg co Cell. So you bring it each
and every week.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Hey, I'll take it. You know. It's who doesn't like that?
You know? Take that?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's one of you. You print off and
start putting it on your business card. Audry list of
guys that tell me I'm great?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Does anybody have a business card these days?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
They don't know it's digital At this point.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I know no one has a business card anymore.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I don't know. Once upon a time I used to
like to collect those. I have a giant box of them.
Most of those products probably sadly may not be with us,
or certainly they're not at those same jobs. I can
tell you that there's no question of that. So it's
certainly a lot of movement around today. We'll see movement.
College football playoff will be announced a little later on
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this morning, So great anticipation. What goes on, all the
politicking for Alabama and Miami and no tre Dame go
on down the line, add Vanderbilt and some missives and
some quantum mechanics and numbers and number theory that's going
around out there. See I'm just kind of getting a
(42:32):
little loose with the terminology, but you know, it's those
things where everybody wants to stump like they're on Capitol
Hill for their squads, the great Debates of twenty twenty
five until the inevitable, as you alluded to last hour,
Greg inevitably sixteen, and then that won't be enough. So
it'll go on and on on, spidering out of control.
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But then again, that'll get my Northwestern Wildcats a chance
somewhere down the line when we get to the field
of thirty.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Are they Bowl eligible this year? They are good.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
He did a good job to finish it off. And
then Fitzgerald's signs the deal with Michigan State and immediately
the Acrosure people drop almost three hundred million dollars in
the athletic Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No, my buddy Pat Fitzgerald glad to see it. I
know he wanted to get back into coaching. That that
he'll he'll be successful whatever that means. You know, in
this world of college football, you have no idea what
that means. But I think he'll be successful.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I will say this, I've stolen the one mantra that
was part of Pat Fitzgerald's run at Northwestern. Every day,
all of us, the goal is want to know, get
on that piece out of you're want to know, wake
it up. Then it's up to you with your day.
So be blessed and go find some good things out there.
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A lot of good football on the slate, a lot
of curiosities. Some matchups maybe they're a little lesser than
for you, but all have fantasy purposes. All have, of course,
the wagering world to countdown to kick off presented by
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break all that down. But a huge game in the NFC,
my beloved, the beloved Chicago Bears on the road at
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Green Bay. Six and a half for seven is what
you're seeing across the board. For the betting line forty
four of the total. It will be cold in the teens.
As I mentioned, this is a week if you ever
wanted to go to an NFL game. It seems like
there's a lot of spots where affordability might be there
for you. But let's start with the Green Bay side
of thing, because they're getting some reinforcements for Jordan love Dan.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Here's the snap Glove looks downfield, bloffs at left side going.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
For Wex over the shoulder, catches made.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Is it a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
A tumbling grab in the left side of the end
zone A touchdown or not?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yes, it's a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Really gonna field? The touchdown has been confirmed. You gotta
be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Right there it is Packers Radio networking on the call,
the unmistakable voice of Wayne Lavy painting the picture for you.
There the diving catch from Wis they get read back today? Yes,
they keep bolstering that receiving corp. Watson came back. You
got Wix playing some good ball. You got Dobbs still
waiting on Golden but getting read back. Another member of
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that highly vaunted Green Bay receiving Corp coming back. Another
weapon for Jordan Love against this Bear secondary still depleted
in the back seven.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yes, and Love has been playing very good football. He's
he you know, a lot of people might forget he's
it seems like he's been around for years and years. Mike. Yeah,
he's only his third year as a starter, and he's
becoming a much more controlled, more efficient player. Every once
in a while he'll make a throw that is a
little reckless, but he's only thrown three interceptions this year.
(45:45):
I think with is it nineteen touchdowns maybe team so yeah,
I think he's he's just growing up as a quarterback.
He's becoming a more efficient player. They want to run
the ball obviously, so it's a balanced offense. They're an
intriguing offense. Now the other side of the ball. I
bet it was not as much of a Bears guy
as you are. I doubt it was on your bing
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o card last week that Manogay and Swift would combine
for forty for two fifty five. You didn't see that coming, now,
did you?
Speaker 5 (46:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I didn't. I mean I do like the fact that
you got the Manongai comparisons and what he's done against
the exploits of Ashton genty but we don't have time
to break down all the deficiencies, no right now. But
when we look at that Bears run game overall, Greg
what two yards behind Buffalo in terms of yards per game,
giving them balance. Credit to that. They've built the offensive
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line they brought in and Eric b Enemy who's helping
to run the control.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's a fascinating offensive line too. I mean they controlled
the ball last week for over forty minutes, running almost
exclusively outside zone, which, by the way, the Eagles played
absolutely the wrong way. But their O line is fascinating
because the left side of their O line, now that
Trapillo is playing, the left side is more athletic than
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maulers and movers, whereas the right side, those guys are
maulers and movers. So right is on the right side
Jackson's on the right side, those guys are movers, they're maulers.
The left side is more athletic. So it's a really
fascinating dichotomy what they have on the right versus what
they have on the left. But they ran a ton
of outside zone last week, and as I said, the
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wrong way to play outside zone is to have your
defensive line move laterally. You have to have some kind
of vertical knockback, which is not to say you should
be shooting gaps. Those are two different things. But the
Eagles had no vertical knockback at all. And what I
thought was really good by Ben Johnson. And obviously he's
a little smarter than I am when it comes to
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this stuff, but he did such a good job with
motion and the reason motion is so effective in the
run game. It almost goes back. It reminded me of
Joe Gibbs years and years ago with Washington using motion
because it changes run support and it can benefit you
depending on how the defense reacts. And they got the
Eagles to react exactly the way they wanted them to
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on a number of runs.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
See if you can't find that weak spot right testing
the link. I always use the Jurassic Park Raptors analogy
of all, right, where are we gonna find our soft spot?
That's where we're running. That's the big test today. Green
Bay has been fantastic against run and run support. Roma
Dunsay out for this one. Some more Loveland, more Luther
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Burden as he keeps rolling up in the receiving corps
as well. There Greg, but for Caleb Williams each and
every week. Everybody is looking for three hundred yards. Once
upon a time it was good enough just to win.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah. And also the thing that he's doing, even though
he still misses some throws that you just have to make,
he doesn't turn the ball over, which is critical. So
if you can run the ball with some degree of success,
and they've actually done that, they have the second best
running game in the National Football League. I'm not sure
a lot of people know that would have thought that
was going to be the case. It was all Caleb Williams.
Caleb Williams, So that's compensated for the fact that Caleb
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is a below sixty percent completion guy and miss misses
too many routine throws at this point in his development.
But the defense, even with a lot of people missing,
and last week they obviously got the two corners back
Johnson and Gordon, but their defense has played extremely well
given you know, all the missing players, so it's been
(49:28):
a really nice mix for them. And Williams has made
plays in the fourth quarter. Even though he's not been
consistent from quarter one through quarter four, he certainly made
plays when they've counted in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
This is where you get into hot take theater in
sports Dog Radio Greg and start yelling, he's got the
clutch gene. He's a winner. See what I did there.
That's called back to like week one.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
When we were well, no, no, I think you missed.
I think you missed another cliche. He's got it?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh it? Oh oh okay, yeah, he's got it. Yeah
all th So, I guess.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
When a quarterback loses, did they leave it at home?
I never understood that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Maybe they never actually possessed it. We don't know. I mean,
that's just the debate. Week to week plus seventeen turnover
differential far and away the best in the National Football League.
As we continue through the slate, going through week fourteen,
getting you set, you know, we talked a lot. We've
talked a lot about the Philadelphia Eagles and their offensive woes,
(50:28):
a lot of finger pointing, a lot of back and forth.
Sirianni reportedly back in on more of the offensive meetings
and game planning as they get ready for a big
Monday night game against the Los Angeles Chargers and Justin
Herbert playing with the hand injury coming out of a surgery.
They will get Hampton back to the backfield and he
(50:49):
and Vadell. That is really the most intriguing for me,
particularly coming off of what the Bears just did to
the Eagles and no Jalen Carter who suddenly had both
shoulders operated.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, so now you have to go with a little
more depth. Keep in mind, Jordan Davis has played about
five hundred snaps this year. He's played over sixty percent
of the snaps. I'm not sure that's what you ultimately
want with him. So now you get into depth, but
you know that Eagle situation. The bottom line is to me,
they're really in many ways the same team they were
(51:21):
a year ago. They just can't run the ball. So
they're a running football team that can't run, and they
do not have a drop back passing game to compensate.
But they did not have a drop back passing game
a year ago either, and I think that's what people
are missing. I mean last year, and I've said this
so many times, that Jalen Hurts through for less than
(51:42):
two hundred yards and nine or ten games last year
they didn't win because of their passing game a year ago. Now,
the one thing that does stand out this year is
the Hurtz factor, as a runner by design that has
not been a part of their offense, and I wonder
why that is. I can't answer that, but that's something
that ideally you think they'd like to get back to,
(52:04):
unless there's something going on there that we don't know,
which is probably the case. But when you get right
down to it, the process by which they're playing is
the same as a year ago. It's just they've been
totally unable to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Ever since they Aj Brown told everybody to drop him
off his fantasy squads. Looking at a total of thirty
three targets over the last three weeks, a total of
twenty five receptions, three touchdowns, had two in that loss
to Chicago, going back to Black Friday. But when we
look at the run game, just to extrapolate for those
(52:38):
that haven't watched the Saquon Barkley experience this year, just
one game greater than eighty yards had that hundred fifty
plus in that revenge game against the Giants, but otherwise
he hasn't scored since Week four.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Great, I know, No, they've been totally unable to run
the ball. There's many reasons why. Clearly, the offensive line
has not been very good. Was expected going into the season.
You know, Barkley, it's always hard when you watch tape
to figure out what a back is because you know backs,
there's an innate DNA thing with backs. Obviously, in any
(53:14):
given run there's a path, but once two or three
steps are taken, then then a back just goes with
his god given ability. Then he has to react to
what he sees. Uh, because you know, gaps are fluid,
they change once the ball snapped, so you know it
might be a certain run. Hey, here's outside zone. You're
gonna your first two or three steps, you're attacking the
(53:34):
outside leg of the tight end. But after that then
you're reacting to what you see. So it's always hard
to say whether a back is seeing it right or
seeing it wrong. But the bottom line is Barkley has
very few runs where he kind of gets past the
first level with any clarity. So it's it's it's really
been a bad run game when you get right down
(53:55):
to it.
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We still have a couple more hours for the polls
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We cover it all here on a Fox Football Sunday,
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Isaac Low and cron in just a couple of minutes
as we roll up here, Greg, But we've got Houston
and Kansas City later on tonight, one of the most
(56:19):
fascinating games I think on the slate here forty one
and a half your total. It's in Kansas City, it'll
be cold. Houston's defense the number one scoring defense we've
got going into the National Football League for Kansas City.
Continuing the handwringing, I've used the analogy of the Halloween
horror movies of until you're sure the villain is dead,
(56:41):
and they've already decided there's no sequel. They can still
raise up. But a big spot here. Now they're playing
must win football all the way through for Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, and I think that they're going to be without
their tackles if I'm not trying.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
You're looking at two or three offensive line at least
the tackles, and then a couple that will be waiting
till game time.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah. So, I mean this is not the defense you
want to be in that situation against. And even they're
regular left guard Sue Mattea, the second year player, he's
not a very good one on one pass protector. Now
we always focus on the Texans with Hunter and Anderson,
but they are really good on the inside as well.
This is going to be a very intriguing game because
(57:24):
Mahomes as this year has progressed. I mean, he is
really at his best as a movement playmaker as opposed
to a pocket technician. This is the way he plays now.
It's not as if he can't throw from the pocket,
of course he can, but I just think he's so
much more comfortable when he moves, and he's very very
good at it, as we know, and because of that
element to his game, you never can count him out. Now,
(57:48):
this is a really good defense at all three levels.
They tend to play more with a single high safety
than they do with two safeties on the back end.
And Klin Bullock. I don't know how many people really
know about him, but based on my film study and
I see pretty much every team for the most part,
I think he's been the best post safety in the
National Football League this year. So this is a really
(58:10):
good defense. They're fast, they're explosive, they're violent, They've got
really good players. But again, you nailed it. I mean,
no one would be surprised if Mahomes had a great
game in Kansas City won. That would surprise no one.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
No, it's it. And we also talk about he's only
forty yards off his career best in the rushing department,
and considering what they've gotten from Hunt and Pacheco. He
may well, he's gonna be running for his life.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Well, particularly with the pass rush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, He's
gonna probably need to make plays with his legs, and
he's very good at it, very instinctive, as good a
feel for spatial awareness as any quarterback we've ever seen.
You know, the thing about him when he moves is
he also keeps his eyes down field, so the throws
are there. We see that every single week, and particularly
(58:55):
in critical moments. He's very difficult to play against. And
it's not likely that the Texans are going to jump
out ahead, you know, thirty to ten. They don't necessarily
have that kind of offense. So you know, that's where
the Mahomes factor really comes into play.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
Chiefs defense still one of your better units in the
National Football League, giving up just nineteen points per game
one hundred rushing yards per game. Haven't really seen a
lot from Woody Marks and Nick Chubb in terms of
dominance there. Mark's at three point six yard protecting Chubb
just above one. Seeing a little more of Higgins. CJ.
(59:31):
Stroud back under center, completing nearly two thirds of his
past attempt seven yards air yards per attempt eleven touchdowns.
Nico Collins has been fantastic. Three of the last four weeks,
he's gone over ninety yards. You even got a rushing
touchdown as a little bonus for you last week in
that game. That was an odd game against Indianapolis, no
(59:52):
question about it. But here a couple of good defenses,
and I'm really intrigued to see what Houston's offense can
surmount here, if they can get anything going to give
Stroud a chance or is that you know where where
they actually have the advantage kind of gets neutralized of
their defensive process.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, well, that's the thing in this game is you know,
even though the Chiefs offense has not had anywhere near
the consistency this year and even going back the last
two years, they've not been a high scoring offense the
last number of years. But you know, you get into
these close games in the third and fourth quarter, and
that's where Mahomes is Mahomes. So it's you get a
(01:00:33):
sense here, or I get that sense. I don't think
that the Texans are going to run away and have
thirty points by the end of the third quarter. So
you end up with a close game and that's you know, now,
granted there have been close games this year and was
Mahomes has not made those plays or for whatever reason
they've lost. I mean, you could argue that they he
made those plays on Thanksgiving against Dallas and then Dallas
(01:00:55):
came down and kicked the winning field goal. I think
it was if memory search.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, whatever, you can have super toe Brandon Aubrey at
your disposal right right off, Just get it to midfield.
He's gonna bump right right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
But I mean, you know, you just don't know. So
to me, this is one of those games where it's
a very odd game to sort of handicap as it were.
I mean, I can talk about the x's and o's
as we have, but it's not likely to be a
blowout game for either side.
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it over to the news desk for our first update
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Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Yes, it's the Chargers against the Magic of the positivity
rabbit in the Eagles lot.
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Did you see that credit the positivity rabbit that they
had go ahead?
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I low, I did not.
Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
Yeah, it was a giant inflatable bunny rabbit, and I
mean giant with overalls a bow tie. And we'll find
out if that is the key to turning around. How
well does the evil season.
Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
There's that inspirational rabbit travel. That's the big question.
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
I would think it would It would be fine as
long as they deflate it and reinflate it when they
get to LA, because if they don't deflate it, it'll
just take up space on the charter. But if they
deflated and then reinflated, I mean they can. They can
stuff it in a suitcase in a plastic bag.
Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Easy travel. About that.
Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
We'll be breaking that down as we get closer to
Monday night football. Saturday night football saw number two Indiana
knockoff number one Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship
game thirteen to ten as the Hoosiers held the Buckeyes
scoreless in the second half. Here was Ohio State's last
gasp chance.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Here's the stat saying back to throwing it pressure Colms
rolls to us right, tries to run.
Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
With it, throws it down the field, it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Is tipped up in the air, and that's the ball
game right there.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Da uns.
Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Mindiada has beat the Ohio State Puns, the number one
team of the Cup. Rayers have beat the Potus Headana.
Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
He's going to the college.
Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Football playoff and not gonna get a fine, unflavable.
Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
Long time voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher with a
call on w eighth CC and by the way, a
shout out to Don Fisher, mister Fishers seventy nine years old.
That was actually the second game he broadcast on Saturday. Earlier,
he did the Hoosiers basketball game against Louisville and then
did the Big Ten Championship game, their victory over Ohio State,
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and the ACC Championship game. Duke knocked off number seventeen
Virginia in overtime twenty seven to twenty. It was Duke's
first ACC football championship since nineteen eighty nine. And finally,
we have sort of an unexpected NFL injury slash illness update,
but it in about a player. Los Angeles Rams head
(01:05:05):
coach Sean McVeigh is expected to coach today at Arizona.
He did not travel with the Rams yesterday dude to illness.
He is expected to travel to Arizona this morning. So
if you're listening to us on your way to Burdbank
Airport you see a redheaded guy coughing in the departure
lounge muttering play calls and football plays to himself, that
(01:05:28):
might be Sean McVay back to you, guys, might.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Just need that hour nap on that flight as well.
Thanks so much, Ilo at Isaac Low and Cron He'll
have you more updates on whether that bunny gets to
fly next to Big Dom or not on the charter
as they get out here for Monday Night football again.
That one to close it out, Philadelphia and the Chargers
doc Rams Football nine and a half point favorites on
(01:05:52):
the road at Arizona. Jacoby Brissett and company have certainly
been interesting. Marvin Harrison's been out, but you're seeing more
of Will's and McBride with some ridiculous numbers Greg over
the course of the year, and it's gotten even better
when you talk about the operation with Brissett. He's up
to eighty eight catches on the year. On one hundred
(01:06:12):
and eighteen targets, but even bigger as he's been such
more so, much more a weapon in the red zone
than he ever has been. And we start getting into
the reports that Kyler Murray will probably be looking to
play football elsewhere in twenty twenty six. But for this one,
Matthew Stafford coming off of a tough one Devonte Adams
six games scoring streak with eleven touchdowns, which is absolutely asinine.
(01:06:36):
He's become the best low post player in the game,
better than anything I say in an NBA bit.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Well, you know, it's funny. We talked at the beginning
of our show today about the Cowboys and their back end.
You almost could say the same about the Rams. The
Rams have a really good front, really good front four,
very good front six, front seven. However they choose to play,
but their corners are you know again, and would you
call them a weakness? Maybe you would call them a weakness,
(01:07:03):
But it's an area you can exploit and we saw
that obviously last week against the Panthers. They didn't lose
that game because of their offense. When you put up
what they put up twenty eight or thirty one, I
feel what the final was. Yeah, you know, you expect
to win. Certainly the Rams would expect to win when
they put up twenty eight and Stafford maybe it wasn't
his best game, but it wasn't a poor game either.
(01:07:24):
One of the interceptions was tip, the other one was just,
you know, an inaccurate throw, not a bad read. But
you know they gave up those two big fourth down plays.
Both were functioned of corners, you know, not one was
four ites just getting beat on a fadeer out got
beat badly by Coker. So again it was their back
end that kind of struggled. Now they play a lot
(01:07:45):
of people on their back end, which tells you because
when you rotate at the corner position, Mike, that's telling
you you're not thrilled with your corner position.
Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Trying to find that the hot hand, as it were.
In some respects Rams give it up seven team five
per game down at the other end of the spectrum
bottom ten twenty five, Yeah, three per game for your
Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah. And you know, in Jacoby Brissett, I remember evaluating
him coming out of North Carolina State, and to be
honest with you, I thought he had a chance to
be a quality NFL starter. It hasn't quite worked out,
but he's the guy's gonna play probably as long as
he wants to play. You know, he could be this
year as George Bland, he could be. He could be
the backup quarterback when he's forty five.
Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
But you know, you put him out there, you can
line up and play with Jacoby Brissett. He's from everything
I understand, he's an unbelievable guy. Uh you know, and
then you're certainly you can you can line up and
play and win games with Jacoby Brissett. So he's played
reasonably well. You know. The whole Marvin Harrison thing is
one of the most confusing things I've seen because he's
(01:08:52):
just and I know he's been hurt over this last
month or so with first I guess, the epic, the epidectomy. Yeah,
and and now he's hurt as he's he due to
play today or not.
Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Last I saw he was still probably gonna miss it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Okay, I do so again the last and this this
was a different injury. This is not the epidectomy anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
So.
Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Uh So he's kind of had a lost second season,
but it's it's very now again when Kyler Murray's your quarterback.
It's very difficult because he's not he's not really a
progression reader. You don't really have a sustaining type pass game,
a calculated pass game with him. So we'll see what
happens going forward. But I agree with you, I think
we've probably seen the last of Kyler Murray as the
(01:09:33):
Cardinals quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Yeah, it looks like he's due to miss this one
again due to a heal injury. Okay, and they place
dorch on ir So now it's Xavier Weaver. He was
the next man up, and it looks like they've just
declared him out as well. So it's Trey McBride and
Michael Wilson against the world.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Well, I imagine there'll be other receivers that will actually
line up and play.
Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Yeah, but trying trying to decide, you know, one of
those uh you need your scorecard to know what the
rest of So it looks like here on their depth shot.
Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I mean they're gonna have to bring people up I'm
sure from their uh uh, you know, the practice squad.
So I don't know who's I don't know who's there,
but it's there'll be some names. I'm sure we do
not recognize.
Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Andre Bassellia, second year man out of Washington, is on
the depth chart, so maybe we get to see a
little bit of him.
Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Is any Isn't he a singer?
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Well yeah, I mean you're you're gonna go all classical?
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but yeah, so we'll be we'll
see some we'll see some names we don't recognize, and uh,
you know, I'm not even sure who they'll be.
Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
No, it's curious to watch that depth chart because again,
Weaver was the guy they were gonna call up. Uh
and now he's been declared out. So curious for the
times for Jacoby Brissett and company. Bam Knight, you're leading
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you know, going back to the rams just to put
the bow on it. Some units got to be last.
(01:11:30):
It's kind of like that last guy in a medical
school that's still going to be doctor if he passes through.
He's still a doctor. And watched the Sheepskins on the wall.
You have no idea of.
Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Knowing, Greg, that's exactly right, that's exactly right. Well, we'll see,
you know, the Rams. There's a couple you know again,
a couple of weeks. It's not this Thursday, I don't think,
but it's the following Thursday. And we'll see what happens
in the next you know, today and next week. But
the Rams and the Seahawks play, I believe on a Thursday,
the night game, and that could be a very very
(01:12:02):
big one.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
There you go, as we get ready for that Seahawks
on the road today at Atlanta. Forty five and a half.
Your total Seahawks nearly a touchdown favor in this one.
Sam Darnold and company. Jsn's been ridiculous. I know fantasy
owners were salty last week. A smallest effort there going
up against this Atlanta squad and Captain Kirk Cousins. Once again,
(01:12:25):
it seems like a place for the Seahawks defense to
do some damage. B John Robinson really the only weapon
that you've got on that squad right now. Drake London
set to miss that game.
Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah, Well, their offense since Cousins took over, is totally different.
He's under center, there's much more play action, the run
game is a little more of what it is with
the outside zone. So there, you know, Kirk Cousins is
a professional quarterback. I mean it's and their old line
is not bad. So obviously they don't have a lot
of weapons on the outside right now. But Seattle's defense
(01:12:57):
is very, very good. They are another one of these
teams and this is a trend in the league, Mike,
that play what we call big nickel. They play with
three safeties basically is their base defense and their nickel defense.
And nick I Minwari is their guy. He's this, you
know by trade of safety, but he's essentially their nickel
corner as well versus pass. Now, they do play dime
(01:13:20):
when they get to long yardage, but their nickel is
is their base is big nickel, and their nickel is
big nickel. So we're seeing that more and more in
the league.
Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
I'm gonna start calling someone big nickel. I don't know
who's getting that nickname. This what be you ed Greg
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(01:13:52):
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a Barnes and Noble. Get him that celebration cupcake. Every
day is a celebrations. Get up and go make it
your best, to make it your masterpiece, as they say.
(01:15:43):
A couple last games to get through here as we're
counting down the hours to kick off, Miami playing some
inspired football of late, the rubber meets the road when
we talk about the Jets and where they're at with
Tarad Taylor, but a lot of talk once again of
can do a win in the cold? Seventeen touchdowns, fourteen interceptions,
(01:16:04):
Mike McDaniel and company. They're playing some better football, but
for the Jets under Gerrod Taylor, a little bit of
stability and ad Ni Mitchell remember, hey do you drop
the ball?
Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Cults all the time, going all the way back with
that early season loss. Suddenly he's their number one guy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
You know, he's very gifted athletically. I had a chance
actually to speak to him at the Combine two years
ago when he came out. He's a very impressive athlete.
When I did his tape coming out of college, I
thought he had a chance to be a very good player.
I don't know what happened to Indianapolis. They were just
a lot of talk with young guys. Sometimes you hear,
well he doesn't know what it means to be a pro,
that kind of talk. But he's big, he can run,
(01:16:42):
He's gifted. But I think one of the players that
you know, not a lot of people are talking about
on the other side of the ball and it's having
a sensational year is Devin h Chen and he's got
over a thousand yards. He's averaging over five and a
half yards per rush. You know, Miami with two and
needs a run game. And Mike McDaniel is a savant
when it comes to the run game, So he's just
(01:17:04):
one of those players. They get him to the perimeter too,
and he and Gibbs are probably the two backs in
the league that have terrifying speed.
Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Yeah, you look at a chan and some of those
big runs. One of what did I have it at?
I think it's five running backs already over one thousand
yards for the five season. I'm very excited about that, Greg,
because we got a couple that may join them today
whenever we start seeing more running backs over one thousand
yards one and you know, it's like the bell ringing
in It's a wonderful life. And Angel gets his wing
(01:17:34):
and Mikey Harmon cries a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Because and I'm sure you had Travante Williams is one
of those guys before the season, did you not, Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Absolutely yeah, I had him, no question, fifteen hundred yard guy, right,
all right, A couple of least games to get you Denver,
Las Vegas. We talked about all the chaos there Bo
Nixon Company and that offense getting it done. RJ. Harvey's
Harvey's now in the backfield. Washington gets Hayden Daniels back
(01:18:01):
a little bit intrigued there for sure. He and Terry
mcglure going up against the floor as defense.
Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, just to make a quick comment about the Raiders,
you know, and I'm sure this will be viewed as
a bold, controversial statement, but it's just what I see
on tape. And I know the old line for the
Raiders has not been very good this year at all.
I understand that, and maybe that's worn on Ashton genty.
But the last game I watched, which was obviously last
week against the Chargers, he did not look particularly quick.
Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
I don't know if he's worn out. Obviously, for a
lot of college players, this probably seems like another season
by now, and that's you know, these guys have a
tough time with that at times. But he just did
not look the same as we expect gent to look.
And I'll be very curious to see how he finishes
this season.
Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Top matchup tonight or later on today against Denver, He's
averaging three point five yards per carry. He only has
one run over twenty yards.
Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Very very surprising. Been now. I'll be the first to
admit I didn't love him the way everybody else did
coming out, but still I liked him. I didn't think
he was going to be a bad back, but he
just doesn't look the same.
Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Tampa Bay's offense still trying to get off the mat.
Baker Mayfield and company hosts the Saints and the greatness
that is Tyler Shuck with Vele and those guys running
them up. But for Baker Mayfield, still waiting for the
reinforcements and the cavalry to arrive. They will not do
so today as Evans and McMillan still coming back from
(01:19:28):
their injuries.
Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
But Bucky Irving being back's a big deal, and you
saw that last week. He just gives them a lot
of juice in the backfield. But you're right, the pass
game has not been what it was through the first
part of the season.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Yeah, even Abuka has slowed down market, as fantasy owners
can tell you. To that end, any fantasy classes. Get
him in, I'll sit for a bit and go through
him at Swollen Home. I've got a couple to get
to from this morning. I appreciate you all out there,
and certainly we appreciate you giving us your time. Greg.
Another fun two hours, gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Fourteen always fun. What are you seeing that time of year?
Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Yeah, exactly, it's winning time. Hey find the man. A
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