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September 21, 2025 80 mins

On a new episode of FOX Football Sunday with Mike Harmon & Greg Cosell, Mike and Greg recap the Bills dominating win over the Dolphins, the numerous factors that affect QB success with the increase of QB injuries the first two weeks, an in-depth look into the back-up quarterbacks strengths & weaknesses, + the other marquee matchups around the NFL before Week 3 kicks off! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. A greetings and
welcome in another beautiful Fox Football Sunday underway. Just a
few hours until kickoff of this glorious game. We get
it rolling. One game already in the books. We'll review
that one in short order. Welcome in on Mike Harmon
alongside me, my tag team partner, a legend in the

(00:22):
biz NFL films, you know from the NFL Matchup Show.
Pleased to have him a couple of hours every week.
We get to well pick each other's brains, me more
than him, but we have some fun and we hope
you do too. It's our guy, Greg Cosel. Greg, good morning,
Ready for another big week in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Mister Harmon, I'm always ready for another big week in
the NFL. Always ready to talk a little NFL.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, get me this as we'll get through all the
new cast of characters, like a lot of the understudies
getting their turning lights. If you had a program and
you said I'm here for number nine, like not at all,
he's not here. He's not here. But we've got a
guy your re gonna like, just give this kid a
chance and we'll talk about Jake Browning and all of
the particulars as we get going the injury rates. As

(01:09):
we talk about the quarterback position, I think it was
fifty seven different starters last year. We'll keep track of
that as the year goes on. Through two weeks, we
have six teams with zero turnovers, eight one hundred yard
rushing games, nine three hundred yard passing games. That's nine
different quarterbacks, by the way, and then we had twenty
one total receivers with one hundred receiving yards. The only

(01:33):
guys to do a twice ceed Lamb and Jackson Smith
and Jigba thus far. So we got a lot of chaos,
a lot of creativity, and a lot of nuance rolling through.
And already the odds of how long Mike McDaniel's gonna
get to give us some gems in postgame press conferences, Greg,
those odds getting shorter by the minute.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, it's a shame. You know. I've been around Mike McDaniel.
In fact, I had a great conversation with him a
number of years ago. Actually it was about the run game.
He was with the Niners at the time, and he's
always been considered one of the best run game offensive
minds in the business. Again, we're not there. We don't
know what he's like as a head coach. Obviously people
watch the press conferences. He's certainly not charismatic in the

(02:16):
way we normally think of the word charismatic. But you know,
we're not there, so we don't know. But it is
a little strange when you do have a player's only
meeting after the first game of the season, so you
know something's not right. We don't know all the details,
but something's not right.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, we know coming out of last season we had
the Tyreek Hill I'm out of here, and even as
we got into training camp into the first week of
the season, it's still seemed like there's some things that
needed mending. A couple of big plays between two and
Tyreek Hill in that opening or in the opener for
Week three, and the one across the middle was one

(02:53):
of the I think best adjustments we've seen between the
two of them. Wasn't it just throw it up and
go get it kind of situation? Greg, But we talk
about Two a tongue of I looa oftentimes about his
accuracy efficiency and that you won't get the crushing turnover
well against the Bills with an opportunity to go get
that game. Twenty two to thirty four, one hundred and

(03:14):
forty six yards, a muted effort by Buffalo d but
the critical turnover trying to place the ball with a
lot of touch. I always want to see him drive it.
It's like we were talking a lot about Clayton Kershaw,
you know, Jason Smith on our show, with the greatness
of his career, and how as a lefty sometimes you
don't have that big drive through kind of velocity like

(03:37):
you do with a Randy Johnson. And on that play, Tua,
with maybe a little more push on the ball get
to complete, but instead it's a turnover and Buffalo walks away.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, there's a lot to dissect, I think, certainly with
that play and with Tua as a whole. That play
was just a route they run all the time. Everybody
runs that route. It's essentially what we call a snag
flat kind scept some people called a spot route, where
one receiver just runs to a spot it's maybe six
seven yards from the ball. Another receiver runs into the

(04:09):
flat hence snag flat, and the third receiver just runs
a corner route behind it. It's pretty much a timing
rhythm throw. You're not really reading, you're reading one player,
you're reading the player underneath, and if he starts to
expand into the flat, you're throwing the spot or the
snag route. Now, I did read a comment by Bernard,

(04:30):
the linebacker for the Bills who made the interception, where
he basically said he read the route. And one thing
that the Bills did on that play was they changed
the picture pre snap to post snap. They showed a
too high look, and then they changed the picture to
cover three and Bernard that was his area in the coverage.
He was an underneath hook defender, that's the term we

(04:51):
use for where he was. So he read it and
he intercepted it. Now, I've seen so much as you have,
I'm sure, by a lot of really smart people talking
about the play. It's not really a read kind of play.
It's it's three step drop timing. Now, it's easy to
say he should have known he was there, but when
he started his delivery, Bernard was not that close. Bernard

(05:15):
just read the whole thing and made a great play.
But it's three step drop timing, so you're not looking
one way and coming back the other way. It was
just you know, it's a route that they run. Everybody runs,
and Bernard made a great play. You know. Unfortunately it's
you rip the quarterback for that, but it was just
really a good defensive play.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah. And even in the post game, McDaniel had a
little bit of a back and forth in terms of
trying to assess that play. And unfortunately, as as you
mentioned in his press conferences, sometimes he doesn't help himself.
Now we have we have a quick little thing here
that that we've added, Greg to highlight the genius of
what you gave us with the snag clatt noo sells class.

(05:59):
There we go. We're we're teachable, so Bo, do you
like me to do? You gave us the lesson? Ok,
And we want to make sure we highlight that where
we get those teachable moments.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Here's here's the larger point though about Tua, and I've
said this even when I watched him come out from
from Alabama and a lot of people didn't see him
the way I did. And I think in this particular case,
my evaluation was correct. Too. Is a certain kind of player.
In order for him to be successful, he has to
be a pure timing and rhythm thrower. We've seen that

(06:35):
over the years. There are times when he looks really,
really good and the offense is clicking, he hits that
back foot, the ball comes out. He's a great between
the numbers windows thrower. But more and more teams now
know that that's what he is. He's not much more
than that, so you start taking away a lot of
those window throws. He didn't have one window throw against

(06:56):
the Bills. Now the Bills are in their division, so
they know how to play them, and obviously they've beaten
them numerous times as we know. But teams are really
doing a much better job of taking away those rhythm
window throws. And the question is is there more to
his game up to this point? There's not now. As
I said, when it works, he can be awesome and

(07:19):
it looks beautiful because he hits that back foot, the
ball comes out, The rhythm is there, the timing's there,
he's precisely accurate with his ball location. But if you
take those things away, as more teams are, I'm not
sure what the next move is for two in his game.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Greg Gosel, Mike CARVERA with you here, Fox Football Sunday,
Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's flip to the other
side of that game. James Cook looked like he was
gonna run for four hundred yards in the first half. Greg,
But there's one play I want to highlight a little
bit of Josh Allen. And we've been talking a lot
about pre snap and changing your looks. What the Bills

(07:54):
did on the touchdown pass to Khalil Shakir in the
pre snap to get him moving with something special.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, And the thing is the Bills now have become
a team that uses a ton of pre snap movement.
This is something they built up over time with Joe
Brady Mike and they didn't do a lot of it
before Brady became the guy. And more and more teams
than the league are doing this, and pre snap movement
has sort of become foundational to really become a good

(08:24):
offense in the league with the nuances and subtleties that
the defenses now bring to the table. You know, the
fascinating thing about that game is Josh Allen played that
game because it was really a James Cook game. Josh
Allen played that game, and I wouldn't say conservatively, but
Josh has sort of settled into being a guy that
plays the game as it demands. He's not really a gunslinger.

(08:48):
That element of his game is not there unless the
game demands it, as of course it did week one.
But that's not the way he plays. I saw a
statistic that I thought was, I think, phenomenal. I'm trying
to remember it. I think he has thirty touchdowns and
one turnover in something like the last eighteen games. I mean,
he does not turn the ball over. So he really

(09:09):
plays within the context of the game. And if he
needs to be Josh Allen Superman, yes he can do that,
but he really doesn't go out to play that way.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well. The other curiosity, as we talk about the evolution
of Greg for me, ten different targets, nine different receivers
in that game out against Miami, not trying to force
the ball. Take what they get, a couple of big
plays to Dalton Kincaid, who's becoming that much more valuable.
He's the guy we thought he was from twenty twenty three.

(09:40):
But the efficiency of Shakir. You know, I do an
evening show with the Jets fans, so Elijah Moore showing
up for a big play well on air is not
exactly what he wants to see. But all of that
to say, the distribution of the football and being more
careful and judicious in the decision making that next evolution,

(10:01):
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
And the other thing too is they are a team
that has really kind of evolved into playing a lot
of big people. Last year they played with a sixth
offensive lineman, far and away more than any team in
the league. This year, they drafted Jackson Hawes in the
first round from Georgia Tech, the best blocking tight end
in the twenty twenty five draft, and now he's playing

(10:22):
meaningful snaps. So they play more of what we call
thirteen personnel with one back and three tight ends, so
they they really play with a lot of big people.
They run the ball. Cook is a really good cutback runner.
He's almost a natural cutback runner, and I think they
take advantage of that in their blocking schemes. So they're
really a fascinating team because there was the sense, as

(10:45):
you know, Mike for a number of years that oh,
as Josh Allen goes, that's who they are. It's all
Josh Allen are nothing. We know he's capable of doing
anything at any given time, but they don't really play
that way. They don't put it on his plate just
to say, hey, if you unless you play great, we
can't win. That's not the way they play.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, that rolling the ball out four year, forty eight
million dollar extension for James Cook, showing that confidence in
what was the dead position before last year, Greg is
what I was told. The other for Hawes got to
point out he was actually improperly identified on a penalty.
So I think to make up for the shame, they

(11:23):
took care of him by getting a touchdown. Pass now
but becoming a bigger part, right, we will watch the
tight end position always a big thing, not even showing
up in this scorecard for this one Dawson Knox, who's
also a part of that offense. So just that curiosity.
Now three to zero, no turnovers and just a little
bit of a different brand of football for them. Remember

(11:44):
they also played defensively without Ed Oliver.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right and so they played the two rookies T J.
Sanders from South Carolina who was a second round pick
and Dion Walker from Kentucky who was a fourth round pick.
And you might recall, because I know you follow college
football very closely, that prior to his last year in college,
a lot of people thought Dian Walker was a top
twenty pick in the draft and he just didn't have

(12:07):
that great final season. But you're talking about a huge
man who's naturally athletic and naturally powerful. And the main
thing with guys like that is the pad level is
if they stand straight up, then they're done. No matter
how big and strong they are. If they can stay
relatively low, they can move extremely well, and you see
their physical traits maximized. Walker the last couple of weeks

(12:29):
has really done a nice job getting more snaps with
Oliver being out of really staying low and using his
really great physical traits his advantage. He's become a force
for them a little bit.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
To give a little bit of the extra Dion Walker
according to this dat six seven, three thirty one, I've
always talked about it, Greg. When I have a big
office that I've built my own little in house studio,
I'm going to have my wall of mean because I
am built like a fire plug. I have always loved
the defensive tackles. He doesn't fit the mold of the

(13:01):
guys that I'm talking about, But going back to the
Nadas and Will Forks and all those guys, those are
always my favorite guys disrupting the run game and swallowing plays.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, well those guys were built a little differently. Those
are the short guys, as you said, the kind of
the plug guys. You know, this guy's different. I mean
he's six seven. He just looks different.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, that's just crazy. And imagine if you're a shorter
quarterback just trying to stay in the in the pocket
and trying to look over if he gets a full extension,
good luck. A lot of batted down passes in the
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doing this now, Mike, you know, well.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
You know, a couple of years, a couple of spins
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to do it every Sunday morning. Nothing better than that.
What is it? The Robert Duvall was, smells like victory
for a lot of teams. They're wishing and wanting and

(17:08):
hoping that that's what today's smells like. We got one
matchup that's got a couple of new quarterbacks under center,
an old name. And I saw this as Adam Schefter,
I had put this out Carson Wentz today starting against
the Bengals, the first quarterback to start for six different
teams in six different and six consecutive seasons. I mean,

(17:32):
that's just insane.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's crazy. That's crazy. You know. Carthon Wentz was always
fascinating to me. I remember watching him coming out of
college and I really liked him. And you know, those
first couple of years with the Eagles, that second year
when he tore his ACL, I think it was Week
thirteen against the Rams, he was on his way to
being the league MVP. He looked like a big time quarterback.

(17:56):
He's big, he could throw it, he could move, and
then all of a sudden, it just mentally, it just
didn't seem to work the way it was supposed to work.
And obviously stated as the Eagle starter for a number
of years, he moved on to a couple of plays.
Actually had a good year in Indianapolis a couple of
years ago, but they lost that final game as you recalled,
to Jacksonville, which it was winning. They're in the playoffs,

(18:19):
and they lost badly, and he did not have a
very good game, and it seemed as if they couldn't
get him out of the building fast enough. Again, we
don't know what the deal is, but that's what it
seemed like. And since then he's sort of been kind
of nomadic, and I guess we'll find out. He certainly
has a great head coach and a great offensive mine
in Kevin O'Connell, So we'll see what today brings. I'm

(18:41):
kind of fascinating to see that of the That's one
of the fun things about the league, the situations like this.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, you just have no idea. The overall was sitting
at forty one, so they're not expecting huge fireworks and
maybe a little bit of a defensive struggle here, but yeah,
that the year in Indianapolis was just fascinating. Right in
the post, Andrew luck Era, he was one of the
guys that got a spin. Completed a little over sixty
two percent of his passes thirty five hundred yards six

(19:09):
point nine and an average pertempt and you're looking at
twenty seven touchdowns and seven picks that normally buys you
a multi year contract. Yes, he was shown the door.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
And from which again you know you'd have to be
there and know everything about it, but it seemed like
they couldn't get rid of him. Fast enough. Didn't it
seem that way?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Absolutely? Yeah, it's like, all right, we've got a fall guy.
And yeah, you know, unfortunately for Indianapolis, I've raised my
hand more than a few times on the network, and
then appearances of trying to figure out direction and purpose
in some of the decisions making through the last eight years.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's so funny. I mean, there's so many games we
could talk about today, and we'll get to a bunch obviously,
but just you know, talking and things pop into my head.
You know. With quarterbacks, you know, I think that there's
very few guys, and I'm not sure people really think
of it. There's very few guys that could probably play
in any system and be really effective players. So so

(20:07):
much depends on the system that they're asked to run,
how they're coached, what they're asked to do the rest
of the team. I mean, I remember years ago, you know,
one of the highlights, maybe the absolute highlight of my career,
was that I got to know Bill Walsh and I
remember Bill Watshs telling me he was either the quarterback
coach or the offensive coordinator in nineteen seventy six for

(20:30):
the San Diego Chargers and Dan Fouts was the quarterback,
and Fouts that always talked about how Wat's just really
sort of got his career on the right path. But
then everybody knows Bill watsh with Joe Montana. But I
remember Bill Walsh telling me that, hey, Dan Fouts had
a bigger arm than Joe, and there were some throws
that Dan could make that Joe couldn't make. So we

(20:50):
didn't ask Joe to make those throws. Now, when you
hear that, people think, oh, Joe Montana one of the first, second,
third best quarterback of all time. But you know, that's
what coaching is, understanding what your quarterback can and can do,
you know, understanding what he does well, what his limitations are,
and staying away from those, playing to his straints and

(21:12):
having your team play to his straints. Because there's very
few transcendent guys, very few.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
That's it. We use the term generational on awful.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, business great, and we should never use that term.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah yeah, it's like a four letter word. Here. I
feel like I put need to go into a swear
jar here in the sports radio studios for that one
at Greg Gozzo where you find him in the Joiner verse,
find me over at Swollen Dome. All right, let's go
to the other side of the equation and hear a
throw from their opponent today. Harris snaps it back to
Browning on the pocket. He flings it deep down the sideline,

(21:47):
says to the catchick still on his feet, Nacon Higgins,
he'll walk into the end zone for up Bengals touchdown.
Bengals Radio on the call. Jake Browning, that guy, we
had him twenty twenty three, seventy percent completion rate, twelve touchdowns,
seven picks. Here he is with the surgery finally done

(22:09):
for Joe Burrow and his timetable three months or whatever
you know, nebulous term you put on it. We have
no idea how that toe is gonna respond post surgery.
It sounds like a bogus injury. But everybody I've talked
to you that's ever experienced turf toe will tell you
how miserable an experience it is. Greg. So, now you've
got Jake Browning and he becomes the guy, and it

(22:30):
makes life a little bit easier when you've got Higgins
and Chase to get things started. But a guy who
proved himself very valuable to them back in twenty.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Twenty three and obviously knowes the offense. He's been there.
He's an interesting guy because he's not a big armed kid,
but he's an aggressive mindset thrower, and so once in
a while that gets him into trouble and he'll throw
some picks. But the thing is, when you have Chase,
you have Higgins, he will push the ball down the field,
and clearly their offense is built that way. I mean,

(22:58):
one of the things Joe Burrow did just as a
matter of course, and was maybe as good as anybody
in the league doing it, is when he saw one
on one on the outside with either Chase or Higgins,
he was throwing to them. And I've had coaches say, hey,
if it's one on one on the outside, that's what
you have to do. And Browning will do that. Now
he's not as good a thrower as Burrow, but he
is an aggressive thrower, and I think that's built into

(23:20):
how they want to play, because the bottom line is
those two receivers, Chase in particular, they're as good as
it gets in the league. So that's the way they
want to play. You know, you just hope that Browning
as he plays more because even though he played well
a couple of years ago. It's not as if he
has fifty NFL stars. So you just hope that he
understands game situations and knows when to turn it loose,

(23:44):
when to be aggressive, and when maybe not to be aggressive.
That that just comes from experience.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
You hope Chase Brown out of the backfield as well.
You look at their schedule, I mean in rarefied position
for them in September here, Greg, normally we're like, all right,
they're down two in the standing. Now it's a matter
of chasing. You got Minnesota this week, and you got
a Bronco squad, Why don't we transition to them? Sure,
I had to figure out what they are right now defensively,

(24:11):
not the unit you were anticipating. They're on the road
for the first home game for the Los Angeles Chargers.
Also rising up to the top of the standings without
Khalil Mack though after that gruesome elbow injury. But looking
at this, the Chargers completing that run of three division
games to start the season. But what have you seen
from bow Knicks and Sean Payton in your two.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, I don't think Knicks has played quite as well
as he did toward the end of last season up
to this point, and given the fact that their defense
has not played as well as as you said your
points one hundred percent correct, their defense hasn't played as well.
This gets into the whole team concept. You know, Bo Nicks.
I really liked bon Nicks coming out. I had an
opportunity to shat with him before the draft the year

(24:55):
he came out. Really impressive kids, super intelligent, you know,
good player, good good marriage with what he does. And
Sean Payton. But again, it's a team thing. And for instance,
last week against the Colts, their defense was not very good.
They gave up four hundred and seventy three yards of
total offense and then that's too many obviously, And what

(25:17):
Vance Joseph did it was fascinating. It was really kind
of an aberration. They blitzed on almost seventy percent of
Daniel Jones's dropbacks. Think about that number, seventy percent and
Daniel Jones ate them up. And they blitzed and played
man coverage. And how many times over the last number
of years have we been able to say the words

(25:39):
Daniel Jones ate them up.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I've been a Daniel Jones truther. To a point here. Yeah,
back when we talked about it a little bit last
week before that game went off, Greg was, you know,
the last time he was truly healthy with balance there
with the Giants high completion rate, Look, he wasn't gonna
light up the scoreboard. And certainly through two weeks, I

(26:02):
think we're all scratching our had a little bit off
of how efficient everything's been. But I mean, he was
a three touchdown per interception guy, took care of the ball,
made plays with his legs. Yeah, the fact that he's
doing this behind a pretty good offense not completely a shock,
but with the expectations of what that Denver defense was
supposed to be, the fact that he was able to

(26:24):
pull the strings last week was a little bit eye opening.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Absolutely, And you know, one of the things I think
Shane Steichen's doing really, really well. And again this gets
back to the quarterback discussion. Everybody always wants to talk quarterbacks.
Sure is that they've done a great job throwing the
ball on first down through two games, and that is
truly the best down to throw because what you get
in the NFL normally nothing's one hundred percent. The NFL
is about probability, and tendency more than anything else. But

(26:51):
what you tend to get from defenses on first down
are there more predictable fronts, They are more predictable coverages.
You have a better feel for what you're going on
up against. It's a normal down and distance situation. And
Jones through two games has been phenomenal on first down.
He's eighteen for twenty five for three hundred and three
yards on first down, so you know, think about that too.

(27:14):
That's twenty five pass attempts on first down and he
has the most passing yards on first down through two games.
So you know, whether this continues, all we have You know,
I always tell people because they think they hear me
talk and they think, oh, you think Daniel Jones is great? No,
you know what we have. We have Daniel Jones through
two games on tape. That's what we have right now.
So that's all you can comment on. I can't tell

(27:36):
you what's going to happen today or what's going to
happen in six weeks, but this is what we have
through two games.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Curious matchup later on today, divisional foe, the Tennessee Titans.
What we do know is that they need five guys
that can dance together to try to protect their young quarterback.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, and that's you know, they thought they really upgraded
their line. I think it will happen over time. Lath them.
The right tackle, second year player from Alabama who's a
good player, missed last week. He's going to miss this
week as well. The left tackle who they paid a
lot of money for, Dan Moore, has not played particularly
well through two games. I actually think cam Ward played

(28:17):
really well in his second game. I think he's a
very comfortable player. I think he has a sense of timing.
I think he knows where to go with the football.
We know he can make better He can make special plays,
as we like to say those you know that touchdown
he threw. Not a lot of guys are going to
even attempt that throw. But you know, they've got some

(28:37):
concerns on both sides of the ball. But they've been
really you know, the thing that's been lost because they
have to win games because I think Brian Callahan I
think is three and sixteen and nineteen games, so they
have to win games.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
They're battling, right.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
But Yeah, I was just going to say they've been
really competitive against two really good teams winning in the
second half and the scores don't reflect they played and
how competitive they've been. So in many ways, today's a
huge game for them because they're at home, and even
though Indies two and zero and playing well, it's a
game they really have to win, just you know, for

(29:12):
the head coach, curse you and know how that goes.
I mean, at some point you got to win games.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Decent returns out of the backfield from Tony Pollard to
your point. Right, the final score thirty three to nineteen
against the Rams, they battled them. I had that as
my ISO games, Like, all right, they're one play away
perhaps from flipping this thing, and instead we get to
see a little more of the Stafford Adams connection. We'll
get hit on that a little more. Next your hour.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah.

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(30:20):
they've been able to share offensively thus far. Greg Jim
Harbaugh kept telling us he's going to make Justin Herbert
on an MVP or die Trying. I may be adding
the or die trying part because it adds some gravitas
to it. But a lot of billboards here in between
the lawyers and ambulance chasers here in southern California. People
starting to believe the hype. But for Justin Herbert, he'd

(30:41):
been able to pull the strings right now with multiple
wide receivers. Kind of fun to watch them get back
to slinging it.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, you know, you wonder if Jim Harboy's decided to
take a little more interest in the offense as it were,
because you know, the Greg Roman run game was certainly
not the defining feature a week ago. And you know,
Herbert is a big time talent. I think most people
just from a talent perspective, you know, see him as
in that top five group in the league. And he's

(31:08):
such an easy thrower. He can get the ball down
the field, as we saw in the Johnston sixty yard
touchdown last week. We'll see if they stay this way, Mike.
In other words, you know, they've been a little more
aggressive with the pass game. They still play that Scott Mattlocke,
who was a defensive tackle in college. They still play
him at the full back position. He still gets meaningful snaps,
but they throw out of that now that personnel package

(31:30):
a little more than they did a year ago. So
we'll see. Because Najie Harris and the rookie Omari and Hampton,
they've not really carried the ball very much through two games.
So we'll see if this is a true change in
how they want to play or if this is just
the way the first two games have played out.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Big test today at home, we'll see what Denver brings
to bear, whether they can tighten up some things on
defense and how vance Joseph and company attack. As you said,
the seventy seventy one percent blitz rate an attack rate
a week ago.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
That was crazy crazy watching that. I mean it seemed
like they were blitzing on every play. You rarely see
that in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
And think about it, you do that against this offense.
I mean, Keenan Allen back and while he's not the
same guy, he and Herbert it's riding a bike, right.
They got right back into it. Trey Harris, they'll work
him in more of the rookie that they brought in.
But Johnston seems like just a much different kid than
he was going back to that rookie year. Whatever they've

(32:26):
instilled in him and the confidence that's come back has
just been phenomenal to watch. And mconkey is just a
pros pro.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
He's a pros pro. He's just one of those guys.
You know, it's funny when I did him coming out
of college, I didn't really have a weakness in his
game for what he is, and people started saying, oh,
you're crazy. You know, you don't know what you're talking about.
Because you have to think about how he'll be deployed
in the league. No one's going to put him at
what we call boundary X, the single receiver, you know,
to the short side of the field, and have him

(32:53):
just win one on one against big time corners. That's
not who he is. So to say he probably can't
do that is to me meaningless statement because no one
would even think to ask him to do that. But
for what he is, he really does not have a
weakness as a receiver.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Lad mcconkee becoming one of those stars. And he stands
a scant six foot with a maybe a little hair
towards six one. So yeah, not your prototypical go up
and get it receiver. No, throw him into a pattern
and let him go make a play.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, that's exactly who he is. He's really good at
great feel for route run, and great understanding versus man
i've had to attack leverage, great feel for finding saft
spots and zones. But Herbert is just, you know, he's
he's one of those quarterbacks for me, you know, I
love watching quarterbacks. Who's just fun to watch. He's such
an easy thrower.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Of the football and eventually it looks like he's actually
starting to embrace the fact of his star power, like
he's he's been a reticence star in Los Agles.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah. Yeah, well that's a personality thing. And again we
don't know how he is in the locker room, but
you know, obviously, uh, you know the way he presents
himself publicly, very reserved. But in this past game I
thought he processed really well. He does. He hasn't been
forcing balls, although when it's called and there's there's an
intermedia to deeper shot available, he'll take it. The crazy

(34:12):
thing was in the last game they did all their
damage on second down, and we never think of second
down as a down. You think of, hey, first down
and third down the money down, but you never think
of second down as like, you know, a down, you know,
but that's been their most productive passing down through two games.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, being able to pull the strings that positive yardage,
getting ahead of the sticks on first down and really
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As we continue, I've filibustered long enough. We got two
teams that maybe someone will make a defensive play. I'm
not so sure, the Bears and the Cowboys. Greg co

(35:32):
Sell and I chop that up next here on Fox.
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(35:55):
our televisions and giant grids really looking and being a
bit and using some of this terminology. Right, you got
your boundary acts, you got your what was it the
flat earlier. So I mean, we've got all sorts of
stuff that we're evangelizing here, Greg, as we get going
on a week three Sunday.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Absolutely, well, hopefully I'm explaining it because I mean, this
is you know, it's funny. I sit here in my
office and watch tape. You know. I actually came in
real early this morning so I could watch the Dolphins
offense versus the Bills defense, so I could get ahead
of get ahead of the week for myself. But yeah,
you know, so I just see the game, you know,
So I always try to think, Okay, got to explain
it so that the people who don't live in this world,

(36:37):
you know, know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's it. You're painting a beautiful picture. Again for those
keeping track at home, it's the snag flatten the boundary X.
Get our book of terminology together here, Greg. All right,
Caleb Williams through two games, I thought he looked better
against the Lions, and then once that thing happened at
the end of the first half that put the Lions
back on the field where they eventually scored the touchdown.

(37:00):
Like that took any life the Bears had in them. Yeah,
out and they expired thereafter, Sir Jared Goff and the
offense went rolling, but completion percentages up a little bit,
hit romandonsay with a couple of big shots. It's a
growing process and unfortunately, you know, people don't like that

(37:20):
it bleeds along the way.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I know that's a great point. I mean, you know
how that goes. And they've been starved in Chicago for
a great quarterback for a long time, so as you
probably know, being from there, I would say that he Yeah,
I would say it was better early on in terms
of being decisive. I mean that's one of the things
that coaches look for, you know, when they call a
play and not always is the primary receiver open, that

(37:45):
they call it with the hope that that's what happens.
But you want to see your quarterback be decisive. You
want to see him hit that back foot deliver the football,
whether it's to the primary or the secondary. You want
to see the ball come out. And I thought he
was better early on on as the game progressed. And
of course, you don't want to be in a situation
where you're young quarterback who's essentially a rookie all over

(38:07):
again with Ben Johnson where he has to drop back
and throw on every snap, because that's where I think
the issues start. That's where I think his natural way
of playing the position, which is to be a little
Frenetic's not the right word, but you know, he doesn't
have a feel at this point for what is and
isn't pressure by NFL standards. You know, he still shows

(38:29):
a tendency to break down in the pocket prematurely and unnecessarily,
and that's something that you can only learn with experience
because in college you don't see that very often.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, and then once you're chasing those balance out the window.
Not that they did anything really to address the running
back position. DeAndre Swift should be available later on today
as they played the Cowboys, but can make some hay
in theory. You got Bland already out. Trevonto Dieggs with
the knee injury, will be limited. Meanwhile, Dallas shot and
Iber gets his first w as they got one of

(39:02):
the most wildly entertaining games that we might see all
season against the Giants. But for Dak Prescott getting a
lot more help from Javonte Williams to give them some
balance in the offense than I expected.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Greg yeah, and I would think they'd like to continue that.
I mean, look the game played out last week where
Dak had to drop back more than I would think
that that shot he would like him to do. But
I thought, I think through two games, Prescott's played well.
And it's funny. I really did a deep dive into
Prescott this summer from last year and I thought there
were some issues in his game, and they're not really

(39:35):
showing up. Through the first two games, He's been very impressive.
I think one thing that they need to figure out
in my view. Anyway, they may not see it as
an issue. I think they've got to get George Pickens
involved more. I mean, you're dealing with a guy and
this look, I don't know George Pickens, So what I'm
about to say has nothing to do with what kind
of person he is or his character. I wouldn't know
that at all. But he is super gifted and getting

(39:58):
back to your point about the boundary, the single receiver
to the short side of the field, that's exactly what
he is and he gets a lot of single coverage
and to me, just because he's so gifted, and maybe
it's gonna take time just for Dak to feel comfortable
with him, But I think he needs more targets than
he's gotten through two weeks.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Get the ball up and let the guy go make
some plays. You got CD, that's gonna always get that
shade of the safety. Greg seems like he got some
potential one on one opportunities to be had. All right,
our one in the books. Coming up next, we continue
with one of the enigmas in the National Football League.
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(40:39):
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(41:03):
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(41:27):
Monday Night affair. We'll get to it later on in
the hour. It might be one of the most fascinating
for me, but a game that stands out AFC South
will celebrate it because others won't. You're Houston Texans against
the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jags a narrow home favorite about forty five.
They're getting some good play out of ETN out of

(41:47):
the backfield, given Trevor Lawrence some balance. So let's go
to the positive side in terms of what that offense
has cooking right now.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, and they're still working through you know, Liam Cohen
being there as a new coach, putting in base a
brand new system, and I think that you know, and
Trevor Lawrence, you know, it's funny. We were laughing earlier
about you know, I was saying that quarterbacks are very
fewer transcendent and certainly Lawrence got nailed with that Moniker
coming out of college generational, which of course is ridiculous,

(42:16):
but you know, he's turned out in the NFL to
be a guy that if you have a run game,
if you have a quality team, he can function effectively
and he can make throws. And I think they're working
toward that, but they do need the run game to
be effective. And this offense is different. There's more motion,
that's what Liam Cohen wants. There's more motion. There's different
kinds of splits than Trevor Lawrence is used to. All

(42:40):
this takes time. It becomes a work in progress. So
there's good plays and there's not so good plays, and
that's what happens, and coaches keep working through that. I think,
to me, the story in this game, though, more is
what's going on with the Texans offense. That's been a
little bit of a problem through two games. And you know,
the kinds of things that stand out to me are

(43:02):
they haven't been able to run the ball at all,
and their old line has still not quite become what
they hoped. It's kind of totally revamped right now. And Stroud,
you know, it's funny. Stroud is a very good throw
over the football, but he's at his core a pocket quarterback.
He's not a statue, but he's a pocket quarterback. So

(43:23):
when you're a pocket quarterback. Two things have to happen
for you to be consistent. You have to be sharp
mentally with your reads and you have to be sharp
physically with your precise ball location, which his rookie season
it looked like, Wow, this guy can be like that.
He hasn't been quite the same the last two years.
Some of it's a function of the old line play

(43:44):
where he's got to get used to the fact that
everything's not going to be a clean pocket. But it's
not all his fault. Clearly the old line has not
been at its best. But he's going to have to
figure that out because you know what, sometimes in the
NFL you don't have a clean pocket. It's just the
way the league is. But they're going to have to
find a way to have a run game because pocket

(44:05):
quarterbacks tend to need run games.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, we look at last week. I mean, they had
the big run from Chubb that I guess we debate
whether they allowed him to score or not because right
he was bottled up and then Tampa gets the ball
back and then makes their big push and that celebration
of Baker Mayfield that we did all week really went
to that next level. But we'll stay with Houston for

(44:29):
a second. Right, we talked about the five guys up front.
Tunsel goes to the commanders and you change it. That's
never gonna be the same. I mean, how many teams
survive weeks one through three with the same starting five,
let alone getting through a complete season and in his
receiving core at least to this point, Greg, it looks

(44:49):
like he's got Nico Collins and not a whole lot
of support.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Well, it's got some young guys. I really like Jayden
Higgins coming out of Iowa State, and we'll see how
he develops. They've got the other Iowa State kid two
Jal and No, so we'll see again the development there.
You know, Hutchinson is a kid that came out of college.
Think he's Iowa State as well, and he came in
a few years ago. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
And Pipeline Texas.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
That's right. They probably have a scout that just you
know sits at Iowa State has an office there.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Maybe three guys, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
And he's you know, he's a possession type guy. Not
a lot of juice to him, but he can catch
the ball and work underneath. So I think they're trying
to figure that out as well, with new receivers and
an old line that's been you know, to be kind
very up and down. So it's just hard when you
cannot run the ball. It's just it makes offense difficult
to play, particularly for quarterbacks like Stroud, who don't give

(45:44):
you that extra playmaking dimension because like I said, well
he's not a statue, he's not a playmaker. He's not
that kind of guy. So you know, he needs to
feel comfortable in the pocket. He needs to develop that
sense of Okay, I do have to deal with pressure,
but I've still got to make throws. So that'll be
a little bit of a work in progress.

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(46:25):
But he's got good old Alabama Mac on the other side.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Pierceol born in tongue is right.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Jennings left my carefit to elect of Jones.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
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open your one, Jenny's open field twenty five fifty, He's
gone fun touchdown.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Forty nine ers. I'm gonna guess that's forty nine ers
radio No, no.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Well, fuck gave you the clue. Don't you love these
these radio guys. I've gotten to know some of these
guys over the years. They are the absolute best. You
gotta love these guys.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I'm just waiting for that big moment, right yeah, punge, CounterPunch,
a little jab and then oh we got this big
explosive play for Mac Jones, a guy that, let's call
it what it is, was never done a whole lot
of favors during his tenure in New England in those
final years, finds himself in San Francisco, Big spot there
to Jennings for the big pop Greg. One of the

(47:20):
plays from week two that ye stood out to me.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
And you know what, it was a great play and
I'm going to just walk through a little of it
really hopefully I can visualize it for people. The Saints
showed man coverage to start that play. They ended up
playing Cover two, but they showed man coverage, and I
personally believe I don't know this for a fact, but
I personally believe that if they stayed with man coverage,

(47:47):
the throw would have been to McCaffrey, who was offset
to the short side of the field and he was
running a wheel route, and they would have had McCaffrey
on the linebacker Pete Werner, and I believe that if
they stayed in man, that's where mac Jones would have looked.
But because they switched at the snap, they changed the picture,
which more and more teams are doing. They went to
cover two, so the wheel route to McCaffrey was no

(48:11):
longer a viable option. And then mac Jones did a
phenomenal job of recognizing the change in coverage and he
hit Jennings on the inbreaker to the same side, actually
in breaker to the same side and the void in
the cover two. I thought that was really outstanding quarterbacking
by mac Jones.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, because the eyes take you with McCaffrey's something you
and I have talked about a bit, and the expectation
that his reps as a receiver would go up, and
he goes to that left core, left sideline and just
starts to curl up, and as he looks back, the
ball's already gone right and you catch Jennings in stride.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
And McCaffrey knew that the wheel route that was not
going to happen based on the coverage change. But you know,
Jones was really good on third down in that game.
He was seven for twelve for one twenty one. And
the important point is six of the seven completions resulted
in first downs, and the Niners overall were very good
on third down. Jones is similar stylistically to Brock Purty

(49:10):
in how you run your eyes. So in other words,
Kyle Shanahan doesn't have to make major changes in his approach.
The bigger issue I think might be, you know, I
guess used check. I don't know if he's probably out
this week.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I would I think he is out let me. Yeah,
we'll get get a confirmation of that.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah. So Hodell ended up playing more with two tight
ends as opposed to two backs, which of course they're
foundationally a two back offense. But we'll see. I mean,
those are you know, these are changes that you have
to make throughout the course of a season. But the
quarterback situation is such that they're they're similar stylistically in
how you can structure your pass game.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Now they're saying he was going to clear concussion protocol,
so game time decision, but potentially back in the mix
for them today at least to some degree. So we'll
keep an eye on that as we go. The other
side of the coin, Arizona off to a two and
zero start. Kyler Murray. We've seen the turbo mode, yeah,
early returns in the past, a little different look to

(50:06):
this squad thus far, Greg getting a little more, Trey
Benson in with James Connor, yeah, and still waiting for
Marvin Harrison really to pop, but thus far they're getting
it all around. Yeah, on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah. I don't know what's going on with Marvin Harrison.
That's tough to figure out. But they clearly through the
draft and just through the fact that Jonathan Gannon is
a defensive head coach and Nick rosis is the coordinator.
You know, they're very good on defense there. They're probably
better than people think. This is a big test for them.
They do some really interesting things on the back end,

(50:38):
probably a little too detailed to try to map out
just talking about it. But they do some really good things,
and you know, they're a different kind of defense to
play against, and that always people don't think about this,
but that's the a preparation issue for teams that have
to play them, because not many teams do exactly what
they do on the back end. And so now in

(51:00):
that week of preparation, and it's not as if you
have three weeks to prepare. You know, you have to
prepare for some things that you don't normally see from
other teams. So that just makes the preparation a little different.
Now they're in the same division obviously as the Niners,
so the Niners are aware of it, and they may
have you know, prepared for it in the offseason as well,
which I'm sure they did. But it's just different.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
As we look at Josh schwet Kalais Campbell, the ageless wonderful. Yeah,
hey man, whenever these guys are a little longer in
the tooth, I'm like, one more year, one more year.
Like I'm not doing all the political thing where folks
want their candidate in right. Players to keep going right,
which is why I need Aaron Rodgers to keep playing well.
Matthew Stafford. I know he was all weepy at the

(51:41):
Clayton Kershaw thing Friday. They couldn't get him on the
TV fast enough. It's like, I need him to keep
playing because I don't feel so old.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Then Greg, well maybe Aaron Rodgers will you'll reach the
Georgia blanda stage. But remember George Bland I think, oh absolutely,
I think he started a game. What when he was
like forty eight years old. I can't remember exactly, but
but he was old bye bye. I shouldn't say he
was old by.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Football football standards up one of my favorite.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Terms for me. He's a young he was a young man,
you know, but by football standards he was old.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
There you go, nineteen seventy five AFC Title Game, sixteen
to ten, Raiders lost to the Steelers. He was forty eight.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Forty eight wow.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Extra point and a forty one yard field goal in
that game.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
That's crazy, forty eight years old playing quarterback. How nuts
is that?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I don't know. Could Tom Brady come back out and
quarterback for a couple of teams now because he's.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Close but well we'll see you know who knows. Maybe
Aaron Rodgers will want.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
To do that and just keep bouncing around and see
how long he can play out the string. I'm all
for it, all right, we'll continue. We've got more NFL
games to go, so much on this slate. That's absolutely juicy.
He can Coming up next, I mentioned Matthew Stafford's one
of the games of the day. Don't worry, We're not
going to do two twenty five minutes on the tush push.

(53:02):
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Speaker 1 (53:51):
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday,
Mike Carbon, Greg co Sell with you. Thanks for being
with us. Thanks to Brianna, Thanks to Sam, Thanks to
Mark you tagged out all making us sound so pretty
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(54:12):
Show weekly, his appearance on Thursday with Colin must view TV.
There to get yourself really immersed in the picture within
the picture, is that the way to describe it. I
think that's probably the way to do it.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Remember when that was like the coolest thing with television's picture.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
With picture in picture. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Like going back years. That was like the coolest thing
when it came out that you could do picture within picture.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
And invariably someone would press the wrong button and what happened.
But yeah, what's upon a time? And now we just
use chords and we run like nineteen TVs and monitors
together so we can get everything we want.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
I remember when the Mike when the VCR came out.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Believe it or not, I wish I still had some
of the old video.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Sets, yeah, or eighty I think in that range, or
maybe in the early eighties when and I remember going
to a video store to get, you know, a video,
you know, the first one, you know, it was the
first I remember the first video I ever got. Really
what was Easy Rider?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
No kidding? We're going full on Fonda and Hopper?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Yeah yeah, and Jack Jack was.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Jack sure Jack young Jack? Wow yeah Dan j Now
we're going way back. See now, I'm gonna add that
to my list to.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I believe Karen Black was in that as well.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
But see digging a little deeper.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
But if you remember her, I remember Karen Black.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
But I mean Greg, think think of all of those
like it used to be for us one of the things.
And we're nerds. We loved our professional wrestling. It was
what new tape did we get right? It was you know,
Rowdy Roddy Piper's greatest hits, like volume forty seven. It's like,
all right, so a lot of it was cold from
the first forty six, but damn it, we were. They
were getting our rental money on that Friday Night.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Now do you do you remember Bruno Sam Martino.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Now, now we're going back to the generals of the
seventies and eighties. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, as like him and
the Crusher and the Bruiser and Baron von Rashky.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
So yeah, and that's going back a few years.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah. I've got a few miles on me, Greg. Yeah,
we grew up watching that World Class Championship wrestling out
of Dallas with the von Erics, the old man Fritz
van Eric. I mean it all plays together, yeah, Sam
Martino and Ernie Ladd, the.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Big Ladd who played for the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
See it all comes together.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yeah, there's there's our little little hook. We'll go through all.
We'll go through the rest of the football players turned wrestlers,
Roman Reigns, Georgia Tech, the Rock over at the U.
I mean, we could do this all day long. Maybe
that'll be a very special episode of all the the
x NFL players that became grapplers.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Or maybe not.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
No, no, I mean, well, the transition to that being
you know what, Jalen hurts, I'm told squats more than
six hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
And there you go. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Philly hosting the Rams later on today one of the
heavyweight battles. See not my first radio that we've got here.
Matthew Stafford in company. They've integrated DeVante Adams into the
offense brilliantly on you look at he and pukin Nakua
and I think that's where they can make some hay today.
The second cornerback position for Philly has been an issue

(57:22):
thus far.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Opposite Mitchell, yeah, that's true, and it'll be very interesting
to see how Philly chooses to play. You know, the
thing is everybody thinks about Vic Fangio as he plays zone.
He plays that quarters, that four across on the back end,
that everything starts there, which is probably foundationally what he does.
But he doesn't always do that. So it'll be interesting
because when they played in the playoffs last year, Vic

(57:44):
played a ton of man coverage and he blitzed a
good amount, particularly in the second half. Because the one
thing you cannot let Matthew Stafford be comfortable. You know,
you can say that about any quarterback, but Matthew Stafford
is still one of the best pure throwers in the league,
always has been, still is, and you know, when you
talk to coaches in this league. The respect that they

(58:06):
have for Matthew Stafford is off the charts.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Well, it's funny. It goes back even I remember during
his time in Detroit when he was pretty categorically dismissed
by a lot of national media. Yes, I couldn't win
the big, big game, et cetera. He was always your
favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback, correct, right, right, Aaron Rodgers didn't
say a lot of nice things about a lot of guys.
He couldn't stop talking about how much he loved standing

(58:30):
and watching Matthew Stafford throw the ball.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Well, it's funny because you know, everybody talked about Mahomes
when he came in the league, and deservedly so. He
was great right from the start with all those off
platform throws. Stafford was doing that before Mahomes. The problem was,
as you said, as he played in Detroit, so nobody
noticed it, you know, or nobody seemed to care. But
he has always been a great throw over the football.

(58:53):
He's an incredibly intelligent quarterback. He's tough as as you
can be. And we remember his first two years he
got hurt and people thought he was fragile, and then
he never missed a game. I guess he had that
one year where he did get hurt, but other than that,
he just doesn't miss games.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, a lot of reports and certainly the red injury
designation has been tagged on a lot of Sundays. But
we talk about a gamer and a guy that keeps
getting back up and refusing to to stop. And nowI
they're one of the favorites along with these Eagles in
the NFC Championship odds. If you look at the betting

(59:30):
odds to things Greg Philadelphia two and zero. All the
talk on the touch push will push it aside, no
pun intended for a second. The passing game is the
thing I'm questioning. How long and how patient do aj
Brown and DeVante Smith. They can say all the thing
right things when they're winning, but eventually wide receivers want

(59:52):
the football.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
No question. Just one quick point on the touch push,
not not the not the play itself. But I think
what's more important is how often they get into those situations.
Mike people seem to forget that. They get into short
yardage situations, maybe more than any team in the league,
and that allows for them to do the tush push.
So that's something as a defense, you really have to
think about how you want to defend them because you

(01:00:13):
can't get into these third and one situations, and the
Eagles seemed to get in those an awful lot. Getting
to the passing game, it's I'm trying to figure it out.
I mean it's it's they have a new coordinator in
Kevin Patulo, and he's been there, but still now that
you're calling plays and it's your game, that's different and
he I think it's a little bit of a work
in progress. They're repeating an awful lot of concepts, which

(01:00:37):
if they work, that's wonderful. But we'll see how that
if that continues. I think there's been a number of things.
There haven't been a lot of clean, defined looks for Jalen,
but then sometimes when there are, I thought his eyes
at times were in the wrong place. So it's, you know,
when something's not working. As you know, Mike, it's never

(01:00:57):
one thing, and you know, fans wanted to be one
thing that they can point their finger at and say, oh,
if we just fixed this, were great. It's never one thing.
It's it's a number of things that have to do
with the quarterback, the route concepts, I think the coordinator
learning on the fly, and the run game hasn't been
exactly what they had hoped, and maybe that'll happen today

(01:01:18):
against a good defense, but a lighter defense up front.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I did like what they did in the preemptive. Hey,
people are gonna need running backs, so let's go get
Tank Bigsby now a couple weeks ago. I thought that
was a nice astutient move, but also showed the confidence
that Jacksonville had an ETN and tooting the room. Yeah,
they brought in.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I always like Bigsby. I don't know what you thought.
I liked it coming out of college. You know, I
know we had some fumble issues at times, but I'd
be curious to see, you know, when will Shipley gets healthy,
what they decide to do, because I don't think they're
not going to keep four backs. I don't believe. Maybe
I don't know, you know, you never know what teams do.
But I personally like Bigsby better as a player and

(01:01:57):
a runner than AJ Dillon. But I don't how the
Eagles feel about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
No, and that's it, right, guy battling back from an injury.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah, that's far.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You've seen six attempts twenty nine yards on the ground.
Thus far, as we look at transition away from that game,
we've got so many big ones on the spot. Let's
go to a couple of quarterbacks, young guys and trying
to see what we've seen thus far. We've got Atlanta
and Carolina. Let's hear a little Bryce Young.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Young the snap thanks to Hubbard quick throw, redbro makes
the catch for the touchdown man RPO from Bryce to
Hunter Renfro his second touchdown catch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
A couple of touchdown catches from Hunter Renfro, three touchdown passes,
short red zone operation and efficiency in that failed comeback
attempt last week, though some good battle from Canalys's group.
In this week, they get the Atlanta Falcons and Michael Pennix.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, I really like her. I've seen from Pennix up
to this point. Decisive. We talk about that, you know,
and sometimes decisiveness and this is never talked about. And
I'm not sure there's a way to measure this with
any kind of metric, you know, which now every website
has these metrics.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Greg, you can make so much money. Figure out the
metric that's it. Well, how do we get the decisiveness meaner.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Right. Well, not only that, but the point I was
going to make was this is sometimes young quarterbacks, and
Penix does not have this problem, but sometimes young quarterbacks
don't have a clear, innate understanding of what's a viable
throw at the NFL level versus the college level. Because
in the college level, receivers tend to be open. Okay,

(01:03:40):
so it's not always the open, Yeah, he's open. In
the NFL, open is different. So a lot of younger
quarterbacks don't see throws that are viable by NFL standards
as legitimate, viable throws to make. And I think that's
part of the learning process, and I think Penix innately
understands that. So he turns it loose. He's decisive, and

(01:04:03):
you rarely see him get stuck in the pocket because
he will turn it loose.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Yeah, I think we'll see that that offense start to
make some strides, certainly beyond Jean. You know, he's been ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I think you can make the argument. I think I
said this last week that overall he's the best back
in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun to watch that Atlanta
offense start pulling the strings. Now that you have to
count on him both as a runner and receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Oh for sure, so much. Yep, No, they're they're there.
I think their offense will just keep getting better and better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Big spot here Division game on the road at Carolina.
All right, time to take a turn over to the
news desk. We've got a legend in the booth. My guy,
Isaac Lowanen kron At Isaac lowan Kron Angel CITYFC does
some play by play for the women's soccer league out here.
Greg And you want to talk about enthusiasm when we're

(01:04:57):
talking about these local calls of games for the the NFL,
they got nothing on my guy Ilo. My voice is
still horsed for the other day. Thanks so much, Mike
and Gregor.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
Let's run down in the last night's college football Action
of the top twenty five. Number four Miami over Florida
twenty six to seven to improve to four, and oh
Hurricanes Helbigators to one hundred and forty one yards of
total offense. Number nineteen Indiana blew out ninth ranked Illinois
sixty three to ten. Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza twenty one
of twenty three for two sixty five five touchdown passes

(01:05:29):
number twenty five. USC improved to four and oh with
a forty five thirty one win over Michigan State Trojan
quarterback Jade and Mayava three touchdown passes, two touchdown runs.
Baseball Saturday night, Seattle's Cal Rawley at his franchise record
fifty seventh home run and a six to four win
at Houston. Mariners lead the Astros by two for first
place in the American League West. The Arizona Diamondbacks over

(01:05:51):
the Phillies four to three. The Diamondbacks two back of
the Mets for the final National League wild card spot.
Sho hey Otani is fifty third home run of the
lost Angelist Dodgers seven to five win over the San
Francisco Giants. Dodgers' magic number to clench the NL West
is down to three. Cleveland swept a doubleheader at Minnesota.
The Guardians on a ten game winning streak. They're one

(01:06:12):
back of Detroit for first place in the American League Central,
and the Milwaukee Brewers won at Saint Louis and Tenantings
three to two. The Brewers magic number to clench the
NL Central is down to one. Mike and Greg all yours.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Thanks so much. Ilo at Isaac Lohencron check out his
highlights from the Angels City Call from the other night.
Couple of quick notes here, Mendoza after that huge game
for Indiana, all the vaults, all the way up to
the number two slot in terms of your Heisman favorites
behind Matier. And then Raleigh with that home run. It

(01:06:45):
was caught by the bullpen catcher who returned to him
promptly in the post game. And then Mike Trout hit
his four hundredth career home run and the fan that
got it. All he wanted was to hang out and
have a little catch on the field. There you go.
Random notes that may interest well only me. But as
we continue National Football League and we'll get to that

(01:07:08):
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Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes into the conversation. An
offense still trying to find his stride, its stride, no
question about it. Run game outside of Patrick Mahomes has
been lacking, waiting for those pass catchers. Just saw the highlight.
Worthy's gonna miss today's game, Greg Kelsey. Back to back

(01:07:48):
weeks with huge gaps in the red zone and Mahomes
has had shots downfield, just the timings not there, falling
harmlessly incomplete for opposing ds.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Yeah, this is their pass offense is really I don't
know what it is right now. There's really no intermediate
passing game. Mahomes does not throw the ball to the
outside very often at all. Less he's taking a vertical shot,
so they don't really work that part of the field. Now.
He's more than capable, obviously, of making any throw. He's
a ridiculously talented thrower of the football. But they don't

(01:08:21):
seem to work outside very much. You know, it's funny
you mentioned the Kelsey. I looked at that interception by
Macooba twenty times, and I watched that tape and I
couldn't figure out And I'm sure a coach could tell
me whether Mahomes threw it a little, you know, just
that hair too early or whether the Kelsey didn't get

(01:08:43):
his head around quick enough because he was the throw
got on him way too quick. So I don't know who,
I don't know what happened. And like I said, I
looked at it so many times. But you know, they
score there, they probably win the game, but their pass
offense is really non existent. In fact, Mahomes dropping back
and then scrambling has really been more of their pass

(01:09:03):
offense than the passing game itself.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, it's been an interesting slog through two weeks now
they're on the road at the Giants. We watch them
in that crazy shootout with the Cowboys a week ago.
Wandell Robinson through two weeks eight eighteen targets getting a
heavy workload alongside Malik Neighbors, who in year two is
just special on a whole other way. But you know,

(01:09:27):
the player of the game had to be Cam Scatamo.
I mean, not only does therop Brian Dable pressers, but
you know that bulldozer coming from college as a rookie,
given a little extra balance for Russell Wilson's offense.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
You know, it's one of those games where you watch
and you know I try to figure out. You know,
sometimes I can, I know based on just my knowledge.
But how if you're the Cowboys, can you let so
many receivers get over the top of you. I mean,
that's the number one thing that defensive coaches talk about,
you know, don't give up explosive plays. And it was

(01:10:03):
just it was almost hard to watch. But Neighbors is
really really good. I know. There are a lot of
people and I was not in that group, and so
far it's played out where I've been wrong. Up to
this point. A lot of people thought Neighbors was the
best receiving prospect in that draft class, better than Marvin Harrison,
and up to this point it's played out that way.

(01:10:23):
He's terrific. He's he maybe stylistically the closest thing for
a young receiver to a Jamar Chase type player. Big, strong, physical,
can run and is really good run after catch. You know,
I think stylistically there are similarities Neighbors. Only being in
a second year. You don't want to necessarily say, oh,

(01:10:44):
that's who he is, But stylistically I think he's like that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
But to your point with Russell Wilson, like everybody jokes
about it, but like the one thing he still has
is the ability to throw a deep ball. So how
do you get beat on a deep ball that often?
Like that's the yah thing. Like stylistically, yes, it's like
they you know, don't let the ball go over your
head as an outfielder, and certainly in coverage that same
thing like that. I don't want to call him a

(01:11:09):
one trick pony. That's not fair. He's a guy that's
had a highly decorated career, but at this point in
his career, like, that's the one thing that we know
has still been the go to even in struggles in Denver, that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
He sees and if he sees that the throw is there,
he will do that. So yeah, I again, you know,
without breaking down plays, you know, somebody had to make
a mistake somewhere along the line because you just can't
let guys get on the top of your defense.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
And certainly the injuries in that Dallas secondary, Yeah, and
the you know that the fact that that Parsons kid
is playing for Green Bay, uh, certainly does not help,
you know, trying to mount a big defensive effort for
Matt Eberflus right now again Dallas Chicago later on today
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Welcome back in Fox Football Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio.
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where you find him on Twitter. Greg, we got a
big one to end Week three, Detroit and Baltimore fifty
two and a half. I guess the rumors of the
demise of the Detroit offense were mildly exaggerated.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah, this will be a little different game though, remember
they played and again, every year is different, but they
were there two years ago when GoF was playing really
well and that offense was really humming, and the Ravens
just beat them badly. So this is a tough place
to play in a tough road game. I know Mata
Bouquet is out this week. He's a really really good
player on the defensive front for the Ravens, and I

(01:14:28):
believe Van Noy is out as well, So they're gonna
have to go a little deeper in their depth chart.
So maybe they're not going to be able to exert
the kind of pressure that they were able to exert
two years ago. But there's no question that this offense
for the Lions has a lot of good people. You know,
we talk about quarterbacks and GoF is a perfect example
of a guy that is essentially a pocket quarterback in

(01:14:50):
a really good system, and he's big. See. You know,
it's funny a lot we've become used to shorter quarterbacks
now because that's what the college game gives us. But
when you when you're six four and two twenty, you
know that that matters at the position. I mean, I've
stood next to a lot of these guys. I've stood
next to the smaller guys, and it's a big deal
when a quarterback is six four six', five and it

(01:15:13):
just makes it at times easier to sit in that
pocket and deliver the football when there are people around.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
You, yeah every TIME i Watch Rokwan smith play and
make another big, play the Little chicago part of me starts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
To play back still.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
THERE i, mean, well get.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Out you, know he's a really good. PLAYER i, mean.
Obviously you know what's interesting is on their, defense they
drafted this, Kid Teddy. BUCHANAN i remember doing him coming
out of, college And i'm trying to remember now exactly
where he went to, college But teddybuke's from The West
coast for. SURE i just can't remember what. School and you,
KNOW i remember watching his tape AND i didn't love
him on, tape but they really like him because he's.

(01:15:49):
Starting he basically beat Out Trenton, simpson who you, know
was the Big clemson kid came out a few years,
ago who's never really been able to find his way
as a starter In.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Baltimore, yeah he is a linebacker out of Cal cal
actually throttled.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Four guys who were. Drafted that's. Right they had four
guys who were, drafted and a couple of them are really.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Starting you could have used them yesterday as they got
boat raced By San Diego state in one of the
late games that, well most folks would have been asleep for.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
WELL i certainly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Was everyboddy Rich hornberger was on the call of that,
one living that one. Up always Celebrate richie's fun in
the media circus down there In San diego and the
play by play calls on The baltimore offensive side of.
THINGS i, Mean Grant, delpit you, know had the prediction
of the. Year, now the game didn't quite go according to,

(01:16:40):
plan but when you can average get Him Derrick henry
to eleven carries on twenty three yards where he's basically
just fallen forward right because he's a shade over six feet.
Tall if you can get that to happen, There, GREG i,
mean you at least take the moral. VICTORY i.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Guess, yeah they played the run, really really, well, obviously
but you, Know Lamar jackson's playing at a really high
level throwing the. Football you, know it's. Funny this SUMMER
i went back and watched a ton of. Tape that's
WHAT i do in the. SUMMER i go back and
watch a lot from the previous. Year AND i think
the combination Of lamar being really good from the pocket
now and What monkin does with the concepts and the

(01:17:18):
schemes is just a really good. Marriage And Lamar jackson
is just one of the most AND i always hate
to use this, word but it, fits just one of
the most, intuitive instinctive players at the. Position he just
has a way of seeing things that some other people,
WON'T i. Think and he's just become a really really
good player in every, area and not just an athlete

(01:17:40):
who can run around and make. Plays he throws the
ball exceptionally. Well right, now.

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predicting the imminent demise Of Aaron. Rodgers we talked about
the ageless side of. It he's got The New England.
PATRIOTS a little bit later on today through two, weeks

(01:18:59):
how would we evaluate if we gave him a grade
on the usual eight TO f curve, Here Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Rogers, yeah, OH i don't Think rodgers has been. BAD
i mean the first week there are a lot of
really well designed plays that gave him clean reads and
he made the. THROWS i didn't think he played poorly Against.
Seattle that game was a little different Than week. One, Obviously,
seattle even though they were missing some, Players seattle's got
a very good, defense And i'm not sure a lot
of people are really talking about. That But i'm not

(01:19:28):
in the prediction, business So i'm not going to say
what you, know it's going to happen With Aaron. Rodgers
but they're not a bad football, team SO i don't think.
THAT i don't think that he's going to be in
a situation where he's going to get. Benched they're going
to have to find a consistent run game that has.
Value the problem they face is their offensive tackles young
players who need to get better and. Better the left

(01:19:50):
Tackle jones has really not lived up to his first round.
Billing he's really not a very good one on one pass.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Protector last one really. Quick we've got The raiders at washing.
Him still wondering Why Gino smith threw that fourth, ball
fourth down pass out of. Bounds, yeah he's still confusing to.
Me but then we Got Marcus. Mariota the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Here the issue is The raiders have to figure out
a way to run the. Ball they Drafted genty with
the idea that he'd be a foundation, back and it
hasn't happened through two.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Games Chip kelly told me it's load, management which MEANS
i think we see him thirty five times. Today greg,
fantastic two, hours go hydrate as we get ready for.
KICKOFF i appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
You appreciate. It mike another time day.

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