Pac-12 Apostles: Week 1 Recap

The Pac-12 Apostles (George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden) recap week 1, including Utah's loss in the swamp, Oregon not getting off the bus in Atlanta, and the offensive resurgences of Arizona and Washington. The guys preview the week 2 games, and find a way to disagree on the outcome of nearly every game. George also interviews Utah Head Coach Kyle Whittingham.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's
for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only
the Truth lives here twelve Apostles Postles. I'm George Rice Stir,
He's Ralph Gampton. This is the Packs Will Astles podcast,

(00:25):
bi Packed Wolf Fans, four Packed twelve fans, a college
football fans all over the place. Because things are probably
gonna change ground here too, so you might as well
get used to it. People. Um but week one is
in the books for the Pack twelve. Now, there's a
lot of people on the national media like Ralph dead Oh,

(00:46):
it's a disaster for the conference, and I'm like, actually,
not a disaster for the conference was last year. This year,
when you have ten out of the twelve teams winning
and the only teams that aust were against Georgia and
at the Swamp, and at the Swamp was came down
to the last play, I think we'll be okay. I agree,

(01:10):
I agree. My big caveat from last week was that
the worst possible thing that can happen is to have
your top ten team loose to an unranked Florida UM.
And I was convinced that like nothing in the world
could be worse than that. And then I watched the
game and Florida is objectively better than we thought. Um,

(01:32):
but there's still some things Florida wasn't able to do well.
They didn't throw a touchdown pass on Utah. They got
bullied by Utah's offensive line. It took Utah making several
mistakes on the last drive for Florida to pull out
the wind um And so, I don't know, it's weird.

(01:56):
It was weird because the exact thing that I said
that I thought would be its aster happened. And I
actually walked away from that being like, man, Florida is
way better than I thought, but Utah is a really
yeah football team. Yeah, I just got some nothing you
have to clean up. That's a fact, Jack, and I
got a chance to talk to coach Kyle Whittingham about

(02:18):
the game and about the week. And here is how
that went. College football is here and uh that means
that we get a chance to get some B I
P s in the building. And today we have coach Whittingham,
head coach of the Utah youth coach. Thanks for coming

(02:38):
on the show. You appreciate you having me. Yeah, so
you guys just went down to the swamp. You guys
had a tough game. UH didn't unfortunately didn't come out victorious.
But what did you learn about your team from that game? Well,
I think we played very well offensively. First of all,
we've had a lot of production, fifty yards of offense,

(03:01):
ran the football efficiently, through it efficiently. Uh, played clean
you all had. We only had three penalties entire in
the entire game. One of them was a delay a
game where we were trying to draw them off sides
and we knew that was a possibility, and so really
just to really outright penalties. Took care of the football
very well up until the last play of the game.

(03:22):
You know, we hadn't turned it over until the very
last play we threw an interceptionist we were trying to
go in for the the winning score. So that was disappointing.
What we didn't do offensively is we didn't we weren't
very productive in the red zone. And that really was
the difference in the game is our lack of production
in the red zone. We a lot left a lot
of points out there on the field, and and so
that was that was very disappointing. Defensively, we know, we

(03:45):
got to get a lot better in the front seven
with our gap control and our run fits, how we
deal with blockers. We didn't didn't play very well against
the run at all defensively. Um, but you know, for
the for the first game, I thought the offense came
out and played well, the offensive lineing but pticular, you know,
it was getting some good movement off the ball came rising,
our quarterback played well, zero drops you know, from the

(04:06):
from the receivers and tight ends. So we've played a
clean game for the most part, but we came up short.
They made one more play than we did and that
was the difference. And you guys are playing in the swamp,
and people talk so much about environment, environment, environment, and
I'm just like you taught that you guys looked very
at home and and that and that this act like

(04:29):
like that, that it travels anywhere, that this brand of
football travels anywhere. What was the environment like and how
did you How do you think that your team responded
to it? Well? I thought we handled it very well.
Like I said, it was you know, very It was loud,
there's no doubt, and probably the loudest environment that we've
played in and sometime or maybe ever, and so that
was that was something that we knew was going to

(04:52):
be the case. Didn't surprise us. Uh, it wasn't quite
as hot as we thought it was gonna be. You know,
it had cooled down to arrange before the game, and
so the heat wasn't a big factor. A little bit humid.
But but we've taken measures in that regard as well
through fall camp to practice in hot and human conditions.
You know, we got our indoor uh heat it up
and put some moisture in there. So so I thought

(05:14):
our guys handled the environment as well as they possibly
could have. We also played or practice with a bunch
of crowd noise all fall camp, which typically wait until
game week, you know, the first first game to do that.
But we started crowd noise you know, a good three
weeks out from the game. And and so I think
the coaches and players did a great job preparing and
getting ready for for all that the swamp throws at you.

(05:37):
But like I said, we just couldn't quite make the
play that we needed to make to to get to win.
And we had chances on d you know, one one
play on duh going down the stretch and we win
the game and one play on oh we can win it,
but give credit Florida. They made the play and we didn't.
And so that was the difference. And one of the
things that that coaches have to scheme against. And you

(05:58):
guys were on with the head coach, coach wating Ham
from the Utah Utes, is you talked about stopping the run.
And one of the things that has really been changing
in the quarterback position is the ability to to run
your quarterback Cam Rising rush for ninety one yards Anthony

(06:19):
Richardson their quarterback rush for a hundred and six. How
much stress does a quarterback who's who's mobile, who can
still throw the ball at a high level and run
at a high level, Like, how much more stress does
that put on a defense compared to just some you know,
some world beating pocket passer a ton and that's really

(06:40):
a defensive coordinator worst nightmare is a true dual threat
quarterback that can run the football, you know, effectively and
and throw the ball with great efficiency as well. And
and you don't find that very often. You know, typically
your dual threats one is uh, you know, the quarterbacks
are either really good a run the ball and okay
at throwing or if I versa. But but Anthony Richardson

(07:02):
as well as came rising Or are both very very
capable of doing both. And that that forces you to
do some different things on defense. And you have to
account for the quarterback run game every single scheme that
you have and in every snap and and uh, like
I said, that's the biggest challenge for a defensive coordinator
is to defend somebody like that. Can can you talk

(07:22):
about your sophomore safety cold Bishop, because this dude is
flying all over the place, every everywhere. He had twelve
tackled in the game, half a tackle for laws. Like,
how has the sophomore been able to come in and
be so productive? Yeah, Cole is a terrific football player.
And last year as a true freshman, he started for

(07:44):
US most of the year and and uh was just outstanding.
And he picked up right where he left off in
this game, first game of this season. And he's one
of our defensive stalwarts and one of the most efficient
and most fundamentally and technique sound defenders that that we have.
And and you're writing's just a true sophomore and he's
he's very mature beyond his years, and and has a

(08:06):
great football i Q and very coachable, and he's big.
I mean he's see him for a safety six two
plus and two five pounds, and and he's got quickness
and speed. So he's he's the whole package. And uh,
he's one of our best players. And when we get
to talk and the national media just about teams, right,
they look at week week one. But in my experience

(08:29):
as a player, that you have the biggest jump between
week one and week two. So how so what like
goes into like those big jumps between you know, you
guys playing Florida to your game this week versus Southern
You talk to make wholesale changes that will you know,
continue your growth and evolution throughout the season. Yeah, well,

(08:52):
we don't have any wholesale changes planning. I mean, we
played pretty good. Like I said, We've got some things
to fix and some things that we can do better,
and we're not going to panic or any of that stuff.
But I think you're right. The the improvement that is
made between game one and game two is typically your
your biggest improvement during the course of the season. And uh,
you know, we need that to happen because we've got

(09:12):
a lot of deficiencies that you know coming out of
that game, like I mentioned. But but you know, I
think maybe a big reason for that is a lot
of these guys that haven't played much, you know, or
playing for the first time, you know, they get a
taste of it in week one and week two, they
settle in a little bit and play better football. Now
we have a lot of returning starters and so um,
you know, whether that's the case for us this year,

(09:33):
we'll find out, but but we hope it is. I mean,
that's that's what you hope for, is to to get
better every week throughout the course of a season and
stay on an upward trajectory. But but typically that biggest
improvement does occur between games one and two. And there
has been a lot of doom and gloom about the packs. Well,
but I I saw some really good things in week

(09:57):
one aside aside from Oregon getting the door is blown off.
Aside from that, I believe everybody in the conference one,
what did you take from from that? Because there's so
much doom and gloom, But I thought a lot of
things went right in the conference. Yeah, I think there
was there's some positives. Um, you know, I'm a guy

(10:18):
that it doesn't feel you get real perspective on the
season until you know, week three, four or five, maybe
even six, until you can get some you know, just
enough body of work that you can really sort things
out and determine, you know, who your best teams are
and that type of thing. I think it's so early
that that that's impossible to do right now. But but

(10:38):
just looking at it from a win lost standpoint, you're right.
I think the Pact twol have had a had a
good weekend. Now, most of those wins were obviously, you know,
heavy favorites. You know, some most of the time you
play a lesser opponent in week one. But but in
your right, Oregon had their hands full with George, and
I think anybody to place George is gonna have their
hands full. I mean that that football team looked outstanding.

(10:58):
But but you know, we'll find out where the Pact
foelve stands in in three or four or five weeks
and and go from there. Yeah, and as we now
from from your team, because there are a lot of
people obviously that don't get a chance to you know,
see the coaching tape and all of that. And we've
talked about, um, your your your quarterback, Cam Cam Rising,

(11:25):
we talked about uh cold Bishop, but you also have
a guy Clark Phillips who's been pretty good for you
guys as well. Are there any other guys that stood
out in Week one that should be getting some more
attention than that we should be talking about? Well, I
think our two tight ends, you know, they're outstanding players.
Brand Keith he caught nine balls in that game for
over a hundred yards, and and uh Dalton Kinkaid didn't

(11:48):
have his his usual production. But between our two tight ends,
they're going to be a huge part of our offense
going forward. Our running back Tavian Thomas went for well
over a hundred yards against a really good Florida front seven.
So so I think he's a guy that you know,
the nation should take note of and understand that, you know,
his talent level. Um. And there's you know three or

(12:08):
four of the guys that that showed up and did
some good things offensive line that you're you know, really
those guys go unnoticed unfortunately and don't get a lot
of praise. But but a right tackles Stalla la May
played exceptionally well. And so we did have some some
really good performances by guys that uh, you know, really
stepped up for us. And final final question for you. Now,

(12:32):
now I've had a chance to come to Utah meet
you in person, talk and and and all of that
see if pacts well media day. But then that that
got me to thinking because because you came on the
program last season, I wished you well and so like,
I'm starting to think that we were friends. But then
you did bad things to my Oregon Ducks twice. So

(12:54):
I'm wondering how, like how our relationship is supposed to
go if if this is the way you're gonna do,
be well, the organ Ducks have done some bad things
to us in the past too, so I think we
can call it even right now, we can call it
a draw. But but yeah, we did have to play
those guys twice in the thirteen day period last year,
and fortunate enough to win both of them. Of course,
one of them was the fact twelveth championship game there

(13:15):
at the end. But but they're a formidable team. They
got a ton of talent, and uh, my guess is
they'll rebound from from that week one uh, you know, disaster.
I guess you can call it and then you know
they're gonna end up being a good football team. Yep,
you guys. He is head coach of Utah Football, Mr
Kyle Whittingham, and uh, good luck on the rest of

(13:39):
your season. Hopefully I'll get a chance to see you
in a couple of weeks as well. Okay, it sounds good.
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(14:03):
for the people who are going to listen on the
podcast version. Yeah on YouTube. You just got a couple
of seconds of silence. Yeah, so you guys go over
the podcast. You guys can hear it. Apple, Spotify, Heart Radio,
We're everywhere. So to make sure we haven't got a
review in a while, we'd like to read those on air. Yes, yes,

(14:26):
drop the reviews. Yeah, that's like the best part is
reading them. Um, reading our reviews, going back and reading
our reviews. I cannot believe how stupid I was telling
everybody to give us a four star and then come
back and update it later if we improved, so like
a truckload of four star reviews and nobody has gone
back to change it at all. If you can get

(14:48):
somebody to leave your review, that's cool enough. I expected
him to come back twice as pretty wild on my part, Bro.
I try to tell you this from the beginning. I'm
glad you've seen the life. So but before we even
get into the Oregon game, though it was not dooming gloom,
it was not dooming gloom for the conference because well,

(15:11):
actually you did not have eleven out of the twelve
teams win you I'm sorry, ten out of the twelve
teams when you had nine out of the twelve teams
win because Colard Colorado got their asses kicked. So we
will actually start with the Thursday game. So we'll go
in and order Northern Arizona at Arizona State, a must

(15:31):
play game by Arizona's regents. So I didn't watch very
much of this game. Um Emery Jones started for Arizona State.
They ran up to score. Was there anything to be
gained about Arizona State from this game? Well, one thing

(15:52):
I told you before the game is that, I don't
think and then you had ever seen anything like Emery
Jones ever like that, that that would be like a
two headed unicorn walking onto the field for yeah, but
like actually like a quarterback's height and yeah, yeah, and

(16:14):
and that ended up being the case. It was just, uh,
it was the way it should have been. This game probably,
if we're being honest, should have been fifty five to
three or sixty two to three. Arizona State had two
interception returns called back um for penalties and had to
kick four field goals, which you don't want to have
to do um against any you It was gonna be

(16:37):
blowout central um and then you wasn't up to the moment.
It wasn't like last year. I think I'm trying to
explain to people. I don't think people understand how talent
deficient University of Arizona was last season. The my takeaways
from Arizona State are pretty simple. There's stuff that they
still have to clean up. Their first string is very good,

(17:00):
like eight wins good, but they did lose an offensive
alignment for the season in this game. He was not
a starter, but that really really hurts Depp. And the
other thing is I don't forget any you not seeing
anything like Demory Jones. I don't have a really hard
time trying to figure out a previous Pack twelve quarterback

(17:22):
that reminds me of Emory Jones. He's just so different
stylistically um to anything that we've seen. And he's not perfect.
He's kind of flatfooted. He doesn't like, he doesn't respond
to pressure really like, if he's gonna get hit, he'll
just take the hit. He does. He does not looking
out at the Pack twelve defenses and and respecting anybody's

(17:45):
size or speech, you're not thinking he could get hurt
at all. And that worries me a little bit because
he's gonna take some licks. Um, But man is he
he he's an athlete, Man he is Um. He is
going to put a s U in some games that
they might not belong and maybe starting this week, so
the team receivers a little bit of yikes right now.

(18:10):
Running back looks pretty strong. Uh, starting offensive line looks
pretty strong. The defensive line. Everybody talking about the strength
of the team, but they and maybe it's just any
use offense and quick throws and stuff. They didn't have
a sack that was a little worrisome um for me.
I really liked them at linebacker, and the height and
length in the defensive backfield is unlike anything a s

(18:33):
U has ever had before. So like, they look good,
but you have to understand, you have to understand that
it's like the Veneer is thin, right, the margin of
error is so thin for this team because the depth
just isn't necessarily there. But they're good enough. They are
good enough to be competitive in the Pac twelve if

(18:55):
they got a little bit of luck go their way
in my opinion. Okay, all right, next game up, TCU
versus Colorado. Now I watched this game. Now, this game
went exactly how I thought this game was going to go,
Exactly how I thought this game was gonna go. The

(19:17):
uh I I knew that this was going to be
a struggle for Colorado, going back to what when they
made their offensive coordinator higher their fans were not happy.
He came from Minnesota from a terrible offense inheriting a
terrible offense. So what did you think was going to

(19:40):
happen besides terrible offensiness? I mean, it was it was
just bad. I mean it was just really bad. And
I don't even know if you are a Colorado fan,
how you are even hopeful for the rest of the
seasons to be To be honest, I mean like it was.

(20:01):
It was that bad. You shouldn't be hopeful for like
a Bowl, but you would like to see them figure
out at least the quarterback position. Colorado at one point
had a lead in the game. Um, this is gonna
sound bizarre, but to anybody who actually watched Colorado games,
and I think I watched ten of the twelve last year, uh,

(20:23):
Brendan Lewis actually looked like the better version of himself
in this game. He was Yeah, he was thirteen for
eight teen but only seventy eight yards like that looked
like some tourists ats. Yeah, and he's still like that
would have been the one of the better versions of
him last year. You have to understand, George, in the
last two years, nine different times they've gone a full

(20:44):
half without scoring a touchdown. Yeah, yeah, nine times. And
they had a few games where they weren't even over
a hundred yards passing. Yeah. Like, and then your boy J. T.
Shrout came in a third team for twenty three hundred
and fifty seven yards and a touchdown. I would imagine
he probably starts this week, right he should he? You know,

(21:07):
it really looked like when he came in. Do you
remember when Jackson Dart first came in for USC last
year and there was just a different energy and you
thought to yourself, like, oh, maybe he It's hard to
replicate this energy in practice, which is why so many
packed twelve quarterbacks have no idea who to start at quarterback.

(21:28):
We ran into that with the Jack West standa mckeey
thing last year, obviously, the Cam Rising thing um and
Charlie Brewer at Utah, and this is I think this
looks like another version of that because Brendon Lewis must
look fine in practice, but J. T. Shroud pushes the
ball down the field and that's what Brandon Lewis has
has not been doing. Brendon Lewis is fine, and I

(21:50):
think with decent coaching and maybe down a half step,
maybe in the Mountain, West might be able to do something. UM.
Wyoming could also always use a quarter back. They can't
throw for a hundred yards in a game. UM. But
like there's nothing, it's nothing against Brandon Lewis, but it's
not like he has the talent around him. To even
help him level up so or the coaching. It really

(22:12):
seems like and I hate disparaging pack twelve teams. I'm
just not Yogi roth like. I can't I'm not gonna like,
I'm not going to describe the beauty of each one
of those seventy eight yards. I do think that he
can't improve, but I just if they give him the coordinatorship,
it's the coordinatorship that is going to have them struggling

(22:33):
this this year. TCU is okay, they're not a team.
You should only score their team points. I'm just saying,
all right, they and they, that's just it. TCU was okay,
and they dropped thirty one in the second half just
because Colorado couldn't hold the ball long enough. Yeah, that
you should be really frustrated if you're Colorado fan. And

(22:55):
he really took the that offense, took the crowd out
of it. They took their own out. Yep. Now on
to Bowling Green U c l A Bowling Green. Oh well,
well it was thirty eight to thirteen TCU Colorado U
c l A. One. Shout shout out to Mark Perry
for getting a victory over his former Uh see you Buffaloes.

(23:18):
By the way, he's out at TCU now, and good lord,
he's probably happy he left yep U U c l
A forty five bowling Green seventeen. Now, there were some
people in the beginning of the game. They were like,
Oh my god, is this gonna be an upset. No. No,
they ran off on them. They scored seventeen in the second,

(23:39):
another touchdown in the third, another fourteen in the fourth.
Now U c l A has problems, but those problems
rely on special teams. Like they gave up seventeen points
because of special teams. Now they're Yeah, their defense only
allowed already seven total yards rushing quarterback only through for

(24:03):
the quarterbacks only through for hundred and twenty five total
yards and one touchdown. Dorrian Thompson Robinson outside of that
first drive when he threw a pick, was through for
three hundred yards, was efficient with the football. Jack Zack
Charbonna looked really good. Yeah, I didn't. I got took
this as a as a game that they should have won,

(24:26):
and they did. Obviously it was an ugly start. But
they got to get this special teams fixed. Yeah, they do.
They do need to work on special teams. It was.
I mean, they looked bad in every facet in the
first quarter, but then they made adjustments as the game
went on and they dominated. They went on a thirty

(24:47):
eight to seven run. Honestly, outside of that long Dorian
Thompson Robinson run in the first quarter, U c l
U c l A looked like putrid, but it wasn't.
It wasn't like you were watching them and saying, don't
have the talent to compete. It just took him a
minute to get get it figured out, which is which
is understandable, Which is why you don't schedule a Florida

(25:10):
or Georgia to to to uh the first game of
the season. Dude, give me a warm up please, Yeah,
because because some of these teams you schedule against you
can't afford that quarter and a lot of Pack twelve
teams they need it, and so U c l A
needed it. They figured out they looked exactly the way
that you thought, um they should look. Zack Sherman A uh,

(25:34):
Zack Sherman is gonna have a big year. Um. And
I just I wasn't impressed with the way they responded.
But then again, what really home game wasn't that was
the lowest lowest ticket sales in the history of a
u c L A game. Yeah, but didn't show up.
There's no way. It had to be closer to like

(25:55):
actually in the stadium. And people are like, there's no
excuse to only have twenty seven thousand people for attendance
numbers to be twenty seven thousand. But bro, it was
hottest balls out here in California. Bro, like it was. Yeah, yeah,
had this been a night game, the attendance would have

(26:17):
been significantly better. And you know, attendance could be down
a little bit because you're playing bowling Green too. But
if they you know, they showed up for L s
U last year. People still have excitement about this team.
The first attendance is going to be tough on their
first three games because they don't play anybody and everybody
knows it's gonna be a blowout. So you're gonna get

(26:39):
it's gonna be tough to get people out to the
Rolls Bowl in the enormously hot sun again this weekend.
Uh for that. So but yeah, I get it, And yeah, no, no,
I just I just wanted to say, like it would
be like it was a hundred and thirty five degrees
in Arizona. Like, that's the level of heat in September,

(27:00):
like two years in a row now in California. Super
concerning and and it might it might behoof some of
these California teams if these if these September heat waves
continue to maybe open up on the road. Yes, and
at and at night and at night, definitely at night.
Um alright, next game up, Arizona thirty eight, San Diego

(27:20):
State twenty oh, Ralph, while I'm introing this breakout our
wind totals, Buddy, I feel real good. Um Now, Arizona
thirty eight, San Diego State twenty. Now. As soon as
I knew Braxton Burnmuster was starting in this game. I
know we're not supposed to talk bad about kids, but

(27:41):
like I was, like, I got a message from a
San Diego State parent that was like, come on, guys,
what No. I got a message from a STSU parent
that was like, let up, press listen. I have nothing
bad about the kid personally. I think he's it. I
think he overcomes adversity. He's just not you know, a

(28:07):
like if he's your starting quarterback, you need a new quarterback.
If that defense did not let Arizona jump out on them.
The way that he run that offense and the way
that he runs the ball, people don't give him credit
as a runner. He's a runner, yes, the way that
he runs the ball, they would have been okay. But
he's not a play from behind not He's not that guy.

(28:28):
Pal no, no no. And Jaden Delora is who we
thought he was, is who he thought he was to
four touchdowns. He did throw a pick, but listen, uh,
your boy Cowing, Jacob Cowing. He was really good. Eight
catches for one fifty two and three touchdowns. We know

(28:52):
who their number one? Why why receiver is their freshman
McMillan t mac three three in a touchdown. I don't
know if you saw it. He had a catch that
didn't count. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm still upset. Okay, I'm
still upset. He was committed to Oregon and the coaching

(29:14):
change made him flip. Hate it, hate it, but I'm
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R to listen live. Now. This is a good start
for Arizona, and we talked about this being a must

(29:37):
win for them to get enough momentum to get the
season started. They were able to run the ball well.
They ran for almost three hundred yards and r forwoo
oh no, no, no no, I'm sorry that was the white
wide receivers. They ran for a hundred and sixty two
yards in a touchdown. So they ran the ball well
average four point two yards to carry. Yeah, you could

(29:57):
not have asked for a better start for Arizona. And
I'm not gonna be the overreact guy, but we could
be looking at like a five win team. I think
that's more than I think. You and I both had
him at four and eight, and it might be time
to rethink that. But um again, they're they're gonna have
some Yeah, but Jaden, Jaden, you know to be Uh

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was he packed twelve Offensive Player of the Year last
year and then no it was he won some award
who was fresh Yeah, a freshman in the way that
Ben Simmons won Rookie the Year, right, Uh yeah, so, um,
but the idea that like all of a sudden, he
drops to like fifth or six in the conference. As

(30:46):
far as quarterback, Rand games because some quarterbacks transferred in
I I don't think that's fair in him, and I mean,
you you know more about him than I do. But
if he keeps his head on straight, he is going
to have a hell of a year. Um. But there
are a lot like Arizona State in that like after
that front, after that front line, Like if Jaden Dolora
has to miss a game for whatever reason, listen, it

(31:09):
is Noah defeated time then buddy yeah, and ord Jeor
McCloud looked okay, and as they moved on. But I
think that they've got some continuity with the coaching staff.
They got buy in. It's all good vibes down there. Um.
And there was some crazy graphic on the broadcast that said, uh,
this is like Arizona's second win in like a thousand days.

(31:32):
Let's be honest, this was Arizona's first win, Like, yeah,
that cow win last year. I told you, you said, like, yes,
I'm gonna count it. I was like, listen, there are
no moral victories. That might be literally the first moral
literal victory because it shouldn't really have counted. A game

(31:53):
shouldn't have happened. Uh, And they got the win. But like,
this is an actual win and this sets them up
for UH. They still got a couple of rough games
UH in nonconference, but this sets them up to UH
and and everybody that packed out. Nobody can take them
lightly and that's important. Yep, Oregon Georgia. So we will

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speed up on the recap so we can get to
the preview this week. I don't have anything to say
about this game. I don't have anything. I don't have
a single thing to say about this game. It was
it was an ass whooping and it felt the whole
game from start to finish like Oregon was playing with

(32:36):
nine players on the field. Yeah, well, there there is
literally nothing to like, there's nothing to even assess about
this team. I think that you will know about who
Oregon is over the next two weeks against Eastern Washington
and UH against b y U. Because they didn't even

(32:58):
get off the bus against Georgia, Like, they didn't even
get up. Georgia rolled out their helmets him one. Two questions. One,
do you have a problem with what Kirby Smart said
after the game, which was like the Dan Lanning will
get it figured out and he would never say this,
but we have better players mm hmm. What can you

(33:20):
say to that bro? Like, like, what can you they
just kicked your teeth in? What else can you say there?
There's no rebutting that. Is that a supportive statement? Is
it a bad handed compliment? Is it a flat out insult?
Is it gassing your own players up? Like? What the
hell that? I don't know if I've ever heard is

(33:40):
gassing your own players up? Number number one? Number two?
It is giving Dan Lanning credit because he's like, yo,
he will get it figured out. And yeah, so I
thought it was those two things that he was gassing
his own players players up, but also maybe he gave

(34:03):
Dan Landing a solid like by kind of ribbing his
players the way they maybe would be insulted by it
and be like, oh really y'all have better, better players?
All right, okay, cool, cool, all right, will show We'll
show y'all. Like I think, as a coach, if you
like the other guy that sometimes you do stuff like that,

(34:25):
as like I'm gonna give his team something that something
to think about. Yeah, question number two, and it's in
the Dabbo swiney vain, because I think Dabbo is someone
that you and I both respect. Right if you. You
can't not respect what however however you want to, you

(34:46):
want to reach through the TV screen and slap him
sometimes because the world is moving in a direction that
him putting his spurs into the ground is not going
to slow down. Correct, correct, Okay, So that being said,
I think Dabo Swinney is great. I think his values
are great. I even agree with a lot of what
he said, but the world just doesn't work that way.
That is how I feel about the level of dedication

(35:09):
that Oregon has towards playing bo Nicks all the way
through that blowout, start to finish and then saying he's
our guy moving into week two. What do you think
about that? I think it's a level of stubborn that
is honorable but might be folly m M. I think
that it is. I don't disagree with what he did.

(35:33):
Not putting thy Thompson in the game was out of
out of a hand. All you do is potentially cause
you cause yourself more drama there. Now, if bo Nick
struggles in the first half of Eastern Washington, he's coming
out mm hmm, like or struggles in the first half
of the B y U game, He's coming out. But

(35:55):
I would imagine thy Thompson will play in the Eastern
Washington game either way, either Oregon blowing blowing them out
or bone Nick struggling. Either away, He's going to I
think he plays in in the game, and the future
will be determined by in the next three quarters. Yeah,

(36:19):
what you cannot afford to have happened is to have
bone Nicks be the second best quarterback on the field
in three straight out of conference games. Oh god, Eastern
Washington's gunner Talkington yards five touchdowns against Tennessee State in
week one. Yeah. Yeah, because they are a spread them out,

(36:41):
throw it all over the place kind of kind of team.
So that's actually good. Oregon's defense, they need to get
stressed in a different way. They have to tack away
better because they were turning tackles down. But alas uh,
we will find out more about them this week. Alright,
cal versus you see as thirteen, they were obviously supposed

(37:04):
to win this game. Jack Plummer had a good game,
you know, twenty three for thirty five three touchdowns. They
ran the ball okay, you know, for a hundred forty
seven yards, but they also gave up a d forty
five yards rushing. But sixty of it was on one
one play, so listen there there's not a lot to

(37:26):
be gained about playing you see Davis. But they only
scored thirty four points, which does alarm me. Just to
tap it. The first quarter was um The first quarter
was like genuinely like at some point I was like
these players met before today, yes, and then and then

(37:51):
like Jack Plummer made a couple of throws that it
was like, oh that you have my attention, you have
my you have my interests, but now you have my attention.
And from from that point on, they were exactly who
cow is like they uh, there was some some methodical
working of the ball downfield. They were able to grind
out some yards and multiple running backs and they went

(38:13):
on a thirty four to six run to close the
game out in the final three quarters. And I would
say that it kind of resembled what happened with um
U c l A. But it didn't. But it wasn't
like U c l A was like you're trying to
start a ferrari and it didn't turn over the first
few times, and then the fourth time, all of a sudden,
you're going ninety five seconds later. Right, This was just like,

(38:35):
all right, we have a bunch of players that need
to fit into cow football, the culture of cow football
everything coal football is. And it just took them a
quarter to be like, oh, this is the formula, and
it looked it just looked very very much um less
less like Chase garbers E, where like Chase would try
to like force something with his legs to get the

(38:56):
team going, and more, Uh, this is it Bill Musgrave's right,
the uh the o c Yes, yeah, this is like
his like Bill Musgrave's wet dream at the fourth quarter
went in this game and uh yeah, and I just
so and also shout out Tommy Kristacos. They got a

(39:16):
big six ft four white wide receiver on the outside
and he's a jump ball guy. I'm really excited to
see what he does this yere ye all right? Uh,
USC sixties six Rice four team. People are like, oh
my god, USC's backed this offense. Bro slowdown. They had
three pick sixes in the game against Rice. Oh their
defense is gonna brow. Their playing Rice Rice is terrible.

(39:38):
They threw four picks, including three picks sixes, and yes,
sixty six or fourteen is a good day. They ran
the ball for two d and eight yards. But just
like the game versus U. C. Davis, this game versus Rice,
it literally means nothing, Like you can't gain anything about
USC except for are they are a competent team that

(40:03):
can score score points and their dvs can catch you have,
So I don't think that we are going to know
anything about them. Do you ever have you ever worked
at a company where they like where you have like
a team bonding thing, like everybody goes and plays laser
tag or something like that, and like sometimes it's cool

(40:25):
and sometimes it's like, man, I got a lot of
work to do, I don't really want to be here,
and it takes a while to like. And then at
the end, you know you have fun because you're doing
a fun thing around people that you generally like. Um,
this is like what if you planned a team bonding
exercise and it changed everybody's life. That's what this reminded
me of, because like they just went out there, they
got to have fun together against a much inferior opponent

(40:48):
and get the monkey on their back of just a
really long time of their defense not making the type
of highlight plays that show you the level of athletes
they bring to USC. Right, So this game. I agree
with you. It means absolutely nothing in the long run.
But they went out there and they had a really
good time with it and that could fuel them in

(41:08):
the long run. The three defensive touchdowns were huge, and
they were making they were making other places like it
was athletes showing off their athleticism and that was missing
in the Clay Hilton era. I will say though day
because I'm you know, flipping back and forth between this
and some SEC and Big ten games. They look thin,
they look on both sides of the ball, so they

(41:32):
better be playing fast as hell because they just especially
that defensive line. It was like, oh, they got seven
linebackers out there. Yep, yep, alright, Utah Florida. We already
discussed that victory for Florida where we're impressed with Utah
stale even in the loss um Stanford last play, the

(41:54):
last play, though, I just want to get your thoughts
on that, like that was just a must by Cam
Rising and uncharacteristic mistake. He doesn't do stuff like that.
He doesn't, So I am, you know, I'm surprised that
that that that happened when he was in that position.

(42:15):
I was like, they're guaranteed going going to win, guarantee.
But nope, nope they did not. Um now cold Gate
Stanford cold Gate ten, Stanford forty one. Now I'm so
mad at you. Why because I asked you if Stanford

(42:40):
even scores forty in this game and you were like, yeah,
they'll do it by accident because the line was forty
and a half. Yeah, and we both got it wrong.
And I did not want to go along with you,
and I'm mad that I let you talk me into it. Yeah.
I told you that they would on accident. But and
they scored forty one, but they didn't. Uh, they did

(43:02):
not cover in that game. So yeah, touchdown run on
the first play this season though, Yeah that's always good
weight eighty seven officially but okay, not gonna nope, but
but who is counting? So yeah, Stanford Stanford one. Tanner
McKee was efficient sort of. I mean it was twenty

(43:24):
seven three oh eight, two touchdowns and a pick. But yeah,
we will we will see because the rest of their
schedule is rough. Yes, all right, Uh, Idaho, Washington State, Uh,
if you're a Washington State fan, you should be terrified,
terrified after this game because you have to come back

(43:48):
you were down ten oh after the first tide it halftime,
then it was what was it? It was seventeen two,
seventeen to ten in like, you couldn't pull away from them,
which is cam cam Ward was pretty good fifteen and

(44:09):
three touchdowns. But I would be terrified if I were
Washington State fan, the fact that we could not pull
against away against the team that is no longer even
Division one. It was a lot of dinking and dunking.
It was um. It had me worried because they cam

(44:30):
Ward was running around a little bit trying to figure
out how to make a play, and then in the
end he ends up with five point four yards in
attempts because he settled down and just started hitting some
of his athletes on the outside and letting them go
to work. And so there was that part of it
was encouraging to me because sometimes you just gotta like,
if it's not working on that day, you don't at

(44:51):
your best stuff, right you you just gotta let everybody
else go to work. And I do appreciate the fact
that he didn't cost them the game and that when
it came time to uh, when it when it came
time to do what it took to win. He did.
And you also have to remind yourself that Idaho is

(45:15):
probably the best team that he has ever faced. Idaho
is probably the best team that cam Ward has ever
has ever faced. And and and we're saying, like, oh, it
might be the worst team that any packed twelve team
is playing this week, it's still better athletes, It's still
second tier West Coast athletes were still talking about players

(45:35):
who played at Jay Sarah and Modern Day and and
Sawaro High School in Arizona. That's still the level of
player we're talking about. And so, you know, it was
it wasn't gonna be a cake walk. I think we,
maybe me, especially UM, got sold a little bit too
much by um Jake Dicker talking about, you know, how

(45:59):
much he believed in cam Warden. I think we might
be able to see a little bit more of that
magic later in the season. But this was not This
was not that, And I think that it was sobering
and not concerning. I wouldn't put them in the like
I'm worried about Washington State because I don't think you
or I think that they're going to be world beaters
this year anyway. Um, But it did, it did bring

(46:19):
us back down to earth a little bit with what
their expectations should be. Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, their
expectations should be completely different at this point in time,
should be completely completely different. That's on the video. Now,

(46:40):
this is probably actually like our real life height difference.
I'm pretty sure you're like seven inches taller than me. Well,
now that's everybody who was listening on the podcast. George's
chair is now elevated. Uh in a way that will
keep him from having back seizures. Yeah, well, well I'm
actually standing up. I was like, hold on, let me

(47:01):
adjust the camera too. Oh well that's not great either.
But uh oh I got you. I got you. My
chair moves too. I can. I can play this game.
You can, you can play the height It just okay, cool,
we're good money now, all right. Um uh. Oregon State

(47:24):
played host to Boise State thirty four to seventeen. I
told you so, I told you the Beavers are. This
is an ass beating man. Yes, yes, like so much
so that Boise State took out their good quarterback. They
took out their starting quarterback m h and um and

(47:46):
um in bach Meyer. He was four for eight two picks.
They took him out now I firmly believe he will
be back starting this week because Green came in and
uh he was nineteam for hundred and sixty six yards

(48:07):
and a touchdown, ran four a hundred and one yards
and a two touchdowns. He couldn't be any more different
than bach Mier, and he was. He was like flying
all over the place, and you really I appreciated the
effort that he was putting in to try to bring
them back, but it was also like it was like
like everything because you didn't want them to have to

(48:27):
bring black Lier into that game. He was seeing ghosts
and they took him out. Yeah, it was it was
the right anything from him. Yeah, yeah, I felt like
it was the right thing to do. Like again, like
a baseball metaphor, like sometimes just started just doesn't have
it right. Um, but oh my gosh, what did you
think about Chance Nolan? He looked like Jake Plumber. He

(48:51):
looked like Jake Plummer in what way? In the throwing
on the move, in they making exciting plays down the field. Um,
what did you think about both picks so well? I
mean it was not not every part of its perfect.
And if you remember Jake Plummer had the same amount

(49:13):
of interceptions of the pros as he did touchdown passes. Yeah, yeah,
nothing changes on my end, but it was just I said,
Jake Plummer, but there was just some stuff that he
did that it was like, Oh, they're not gonna have
to work around him. Yeah. Correct, he's clearly he's clearly

(49:36):
better than he was. So are you more of a
believer in this Oregon State team because they jumped out
twenty four nothing and then cruised and then cruised on home? No,
I'm not, because it's like Boise State didn't have the
opportunity to even try to have a running game. Um,

(49:58):
not that the running games that good this or anyway,
but like they didn't even there's gonna be teams in
this conference that don't care if if Oregon State jumps
out to a early leaders. And also also, Oregon State
has had like one good road win in the last
five years, so we still have to deal with whether
or not they can play outside of Corvallis. And you

(50:20):
can make an argument that their road win last year
at USC was them just beating a dead horse that
was dead when they got there. Yes, So yeah, I
I would like to see them do something anything, on
the road before I decide that that um, that you
and I were both wrong about them. I think we
both have them go into a bowl. There's also a

(50:40):
lot of people saying that they're gonna flirt with ten wins,
and I just don't. Yeah. Fox Sports Radio has the
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listen live. Oh Now, last game up in the pack
twelve Washington Kent State twenty Michael Pinnox you junior for

(51:06):
thirty nine three forty five four touchdowns. I thought that
I thought he would be good. And granted they are
playing Kent State, Kent Kent States terrible. But when you
play bad teams, you were supposed to make them look bad.
You are you are supposed to. They gave up thirteen
points in the first half, didn't give up any in

(51:27):
the third quarter. I don't think that this Washington defensive special,
but they can score points, which allows you them to
put pressure on teams. It's obviously a clear abandoning of
the way that UM Jimmy Lake was trying to run
that struggle offense. You know, run the damn football and

(51:48):
all of that list, and they're like, yeah, we're gonna
run it, but we're gonna throw that thing too, And
so Washington fans should be much more happy. They put
up five five yards of offense. They look competent, They
look competent, Like you can't just look at this team
and be like, oh, that's a win, new new, new,

(52:09):
new new. I agree with you, and I would say
I think that they may be that they maybe can
beat Michigan State next weekend. It's possible. It's possible. They
just got to be respectable, like no explosive plays um
in the run game for for Michigan State, and I
think that will keep him in it. Michael Panics is

(52:29):
no stranger to to big game atmospheres, and I think
you'll probably be okay. Um. But I here, here's how
I feel about what Washington did. I think everybody was
so enamored with how different, radically different Arizona looked that
it kind of took all of the oxygen out of
the room. For the truth is, this was just as

(52:51):
impressive est couple of years. Yes, it was um and
and it wasn't just Michael Panics, but it was the
fact that like their receivers actually had an opportunity to
make plays, and nobody on the team had more than
uh well no, uh, Roman Dunes they had seven catches,
but but everybody else he was spreading the ball around.

(53:13):
Jalen mcmillancott five balls, todsh Davis caught three, Jalen Pope
caught three. Giles Jackson got involved. Like the running backs
are catching passes out of the backfield. The ball was
spread around. It's like and you you can since consistently
point out that like this was even an issue for
Oregon last year. If you have receivers in high school
and receivers on your sideline seeing that not everybody's touching

(53:33):
the ball, they get real anti real quick. We even
saw the l s US best receiver almost quit on
the team at halftime because he, you know, he didn't
have any catches. So you have to find a way
to keep people involved. They did that. That's a huge
sign of of positive things to come for Washington. All right, Uh,
now onto this week. How did do it? You have

(53:55):
our wind totals prepared already against the spread? Yes, I
went six and six, you went four and eight? What? Yeah?
You went four and eight rough starts the season? How
the hell did I go four and eight? Bro? I
demand a recount, demand to recount. All right, I took TCU.

(54:17):
No you didn't. I didn't. No, oh, no way, are
you serious? You went hard on the pack twelve this
like this week. You also took an a U. So
you started out and two you were oh and two
before we even got Saturday. Damn okay, technically, So I

(54:38):
lost and then I lost the Oregon game. Obviously I lost.
I won the USC game one, do U c l
A game? Lost the Utah game, won the Arizona game.
Did I win the Cow game? No? No, that was

(54:59):
like twenty one and a half they one, I think.
Did I win the Stanford game? No, you talked to
me into losing the Stanford game. Thanks. And I lost
the Washington State game too, Yes, won the Oregon State game. Yeah?
And did I win the Kents Washington game? I don't

(55:19):
think so, damn damn? All right? Well, hey where I
want you? I got you right where I want? All right? Um? Alright, next, alright,
So for this weekend, first game up PAC twelve Network
Southern Utah against Utah. The line on this game appears

(55:47):
to be what I'm looking it up now. There's actually
know a lot of players on the Southern Utah team,
and I feel really bad for what's what's about to
happen to them? Bro, this is going to be well.
Their their quarterback did throw for three hundred sixty four
yards and three touchdowns last week, so you know they

(56:09):
probably feel like you know, they may be able to
move the ball a little, keep it respectable, but they
are going to get their asses what bro, Yes they are.
So the line that I was able to find, um,
not a lot of people are making lines for this,
but one person did throw it out as fort five. EM.

(56:34):
I don't like it. I don't like it. Give me
Southern Utah. Give me Southern Utah. Not obviously not to
win this damn game. But I see I'm losing by
like six touchdowns, not not not six touchdowns and a
field goal. That's a little excessive. Al Right, Well, Southern
Utah lost to another in state school last year sixty

(56:56):
two nothing and we were state, so I'm gonna go
ahead and take Utah. Wait, they all sixty two to
nothing to weaber State last year, but they only lost
by one to Montana and they only lost by eight
to Northern Colorado. So I could have been an anomaly,
but that it happened. Okay, fine, I'm still sticking with it.
Gotta gotta get with another Utah plus forty Colorado at

(57:23):
air Force. Oh my gosh. Okay, so Colorado. I think
I had said on our last podcast that I thought
air Force beat Colorado. They did. Um that was a
couple of years ago. Uh and I think it was
in Boulder. Um. So the air Force versus Colorado spread

(57:44):
is currently air Force minus seventeen and a half. That
is so disrespectful, disrespectful. I just beat Northern Iowa forty
eight a seventeam. I just highly advised against taking a

(58:04):
Mountain West team minus seventeen and a half over a
pack twelve team. I just they only threw the ball
six times last week. They don't throw their air Force
you gotta understand. Although, but like air Force, air Force
is one of the best teams against the spread in
the country. I am taking air for nine and four.

(58:27):
I am taking air Force. Bro That lets you know
what I think about this Colorado. Well, actually, I wish
I wish I could heade it on who they're starting.
But either either way, it doesn't matter. I'm taking air Force.
The games at air Force too, even though they're both

(58:47):
in Colorado. Was just in Colorado Springs. Yeah, so I'm
still taking air Force. It's such a most underrated pain
in the asked place to play a football game is
at air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Um, but I can't,
I can't. This isn't. This line is insane. It's insane.

(59:07):
I can't. I don't think Colorado is gonna win this game,
but the idea that they're gonna lose by three touchdowns
they were in the game against TCU last week. It
was their own offensive ineptitude that exactly it's gonna be
a repeat. Bro, I'm on the opposite side of you.
But oh my gosh, if air Force covers, they gotta go.
The Carl Dorelle experiment has to end immediately. They have

(59:29):
to be first in line for for for a coach.
And and because I rooted for black coaches because they
don't get jobs very often. But he may have fired himself.
Why why got the office coordinator that he got? Um?
All right, Washington State at Wisconsin a lot less exciting

(59:52):
of a game than Uh. Then I was thinking after
what happened with m with Idaho. Let's see, they beat
Illinois State thirty eight to zero last week. This is
another seventeen and a half point line. Wisconsin is favored.

(01:00:19):
If I could jump around here without getting my headphones
tangled tangled up, I would give me the Wisconsin Badgers. Homie,
give me the Badgers. That is one of the most
ruthless plays places to play college football. Love their fans.
I played there. Uh yeah, it is a fun place

(01:00:39):
to play in Washington State. After their their offensive effort
last week, I don't trust them. Wisconsin is going to
absolutely stop a mud hole in them big time. I'm
trying to think of the last time a team that
was this run heavy um took on Washington State and
what happened. And I know that they don't have a

(01:01:01):
ton of the same personnel as last year, but I
just don't I can't find an example of it. So
it's hard for me to envision. Maybe you, but you talk,
you know what I'm gonna take. I'm I'm gonna take
the I'm gonna take the coogs. I think this is
a twelve we are yes, so one of US is
gonna go into welve the other ones gonna go to

(01:01:21):
a At this point, I think I know in your
mind that you believe you're going towelve and oh every week,
always always, bro There's no lack of confidence on this
on this side of defense. Bro Um. Alright, Uh, next
game up you and l V versus Cow. U and
l V started out their season well this year, beat

(01:01:42):
Idaho State fifty two to twenty one. Now they got Cow.
What's this line looking like? Well, first of all, Idaho
State is like and the reason that they hired Charley
Regel away from Cal because they need a new direction.
They were definitely one of the worst teams in all
of FCS, so I wouldn't look too much into that.

(01:02:02):
It is interesting that you want to be finally did
something on offense after a SU hired away their offensive coordinators,
So maybe that doesn't look so good for a su um.
This is only a thirteen point uh spread? This Cow
minus thirteen? Like this is if if if you could

(01:02:23):
bet in North Carolina without actually driving your ask down
to the sports book, I would lay the most money
of any of anything on Cal covering the thirteen. Wow.
I like Cow to cover, but they don't score enough
damn points. Bro. They don't score enough points, which which

(01:02:44):
which concerns me. And I think that you and l
V is better than you see Davis, who lost by
what twenty one points? They definitely have you ad un
l V right now. And I don't want to be disrespectful,
but they're one player. It's Doug Brumfeld like that. If
Don Brun Doug Brumfeld balls out, then they're gonna be Okay.
I still think they're gonna lose, but if he doesn't

(01:03:06):
play perfectly, they're gonna get wrecked. Okay, so you've talked
me into it, I am going to go with cal.
I don't trust Marcus Aroria his his offense because they
haven't been good since he's been there, So until they
proved that they're good, I don't trust it. Are Portland's
State versus the Washington Huskies. They're gonna start out two

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and oh their fans are gonna be happy, but they
still haven't played anybody yet, and then that Michigan State
Test is gonna be but at least they'll have some confidence.
But uh, is there even a line printed for this game?
I'm checking right, now, and you and I talked about
the fact that there's a very strong piss possibility that
not only start too and oh, but they might be

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six and oh seven and one um heading into the
into the Oregon game. So I mean, I'm I'm all
in on Washington to trick a whole bunch of people
earlier in the season and tricked themselves too. They might
trick themselves into believing that this is a this is
the resurgence um of the Huskies. I don't have a
line on ESPN, so I am checking elsewhere. I don't

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know what order you're going in. Otherwise I would just
have these already laid out. Okay, so I'll go from
here on out. I'll go on ESPN. I was on
College press Box. Okay. Uh so Washington which has them
like in chronological order. All right, So we have odd

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shark is saying nothing's better than dead air. I'm gonna
end up blogging onto some site that gives my computer virus. No,
we don't. We don't have any odds. Do you just
want to make it? Should we make it thirty or something?
Or no? Yeah, let's just I was gonna say, for

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like the other game, Portland's state is not. So do
you think it's Portland Portland states better than southern Utah? Um? Yes,
very much so okay, so then let's set it at
thirty two. Then okay Portland's I'll take Portland's state plus

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thirty two. I will take Portland's state plus thirty two
as well. Okay, alright, U c l A verse the
Alabama State Hornets. This is definitely a game that doesn't
have a I think it was fifty fifty, all right,

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So Alabama State is twin Oh they beat Miles one
to thirteen, Howard twenty three to thirteen. So I am
going to go you ce l A Wait, are we
setting it at fifty? No, it is fifty and a half.
All right, I'm gonna go with U c l A

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plus fifty. I'm sorry, minus fifty and a half. I
never take this side of the line. What do the
kids say, ain't no way man, Alabama State? Yeah, all right, No, no,

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fifty fifty and a half. No, No, I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing fifty and a half. I'm I'm I'm
I'm somebody who has a hard time hitting on thirteen
in black jack. I'm not taking a fifty and a
half point isn't the Alabama State? Please good, I'm glad
you said that. All right. Arizona State at Oklahoma State.

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I think last I checked, this was actually like eleven
and a half in favor of Oklahoma State. But checking
that now, uh, this is gonna be an interesting game
because Oklahoma State looked really really good to open the season. Um,
it's eleven, it's down to eleven, and the over under
fifty eight. I would hammer that over by the way. UM,

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I think that I think that this has a chance
to to be like a uh, you know, neither team
is really going to be able to stop the other team.
I think so just because you have two quarterbacks who
really can move um, and so I think that's gonna
be pretty confounding for for both defenses. UM, and if

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it is under, it's probably gonna be Oklahoma State scoring
a lot of points in Arizona State not really knowing
what to do on the road because Arizona State is
another one of those teams are on the road, they're
just a completely different team. Oklahoma State minus eleven. I
will roll with you on this one. I think it's
gonna be a two touchdown one. I think it's gonna
be two out of hand. Um, but I think thirty

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twenty is reasonable um or possibly, you know, because I
do like the over um. But yeah, I'll take a
Glaoma State as well. All right, um, Oregon State Fresno State. Okay,
we have to deal with Jake Haynter again. Mm hmmm

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him the Bees travel down the I five. This is
even even money, bro, It's a pick them. Oregon State
is getting most of the money right now, it looks like,
but this is even yeah m hmm um rolling with

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the Beavas, the Bevas. I'm staying with the Vivas, the Vivash.
So you know what's interesting about this, and I know
that you know it's basically moot point because of the
amount of players that move around. But Fresno State finished
their year last year. UM. One of their last games

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was against Poise State and it was a thirty six
point loss. So we have kind of a common opponent,
but obviously made up of you have a different coaching
staff you have, UM, I would be an idiot. I
would be an idiot right for going AGAINSTO Viver's two
weeks in a row. No go go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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pick pick pick Fresno State. Do what you wanna do,
play Boy, do what you wanna do you feelip Froggy
go go ahead. And so it looks like right right now,
you're gonna finish. So so far like two and eight.
So listen, listen, you can, you can keep it up
if you will whatever. Jake Kyner Jay Kinner for the

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listen live of Michigan State at Arizona. Now, I don't

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think those two teams are playing Mississippi State. I'm very
unprepared for what Arizona has on their schedule Mississippi State.
So this is an interesting one because this is my
lea yeah, and Mike Leach. One of his worst losses

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ever happened in Tucson. This is Mississippi State coming to Tucson,
and people are being super reactive right now, like this
was supposed to be a Mississippi State coming to town
and just just st yeah, and now it's only a
ten and a half point line, and you're what you're

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seeing is a lot of people reacting to how good
Arizona looked in in the opening game. And I gotta
be honest, man, I don't I don't feel like that
reactiveness is appropriate. This is still Arizona's defensive backfield now
against uh a spread offense. M see what you gotta remember,

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It is not just a spread. This is Mike leach
is spread against a defensive coordinator who's seen it and
knows how to combat it. So give me the wild
Cats and the points. Give me them tend and a
half points. I'm taking them. I think Mississippi State still wins,
but only by a touchdown. But don't be surprised that

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the Wildcast shock the world. Boy, who I'm on? Jetfish
is bandwagon? Jonathan Smith's bandwagon. Get right right now, I
am in the pack twelve. Just as soon as we
start coming coming back is gonna break up? Okay, Well,
I just I'm not convinced that Memphisis dbs are any

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less or more talented than Arizona's. I think they're probably
on the same level. And Willi Contres just went yards
five touchdowns, So because they're not used to seeing that. Yeah,
they're not used to seeing that offense, and they went
the total wrong way about going to go stop it.
All right, Well, I'm on the opposite side of you
again on this one, and it makes me feel like

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a Pack twelve hater, what a loser? Okay, alright, as
we're wedding well no, no, no, not wait from wait,
wedding crisis. Yeah, um so yeah, um, next game USC Stanford.

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This game is on the farm. USC is feeling real
good about themselves. Sixties six points last week against Rice.
Now they go on the farm to take on Stanford.
I actually feel better about Stanford playing at USC than
I do Stanford playing on the farm, which is weird.

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Is this a revenge game or is it not a
revenge game because Clay Hilton is not there anymore? Both? Both? Okay, Um,
this spread is going to shock you. It's eight and
a half points in favor of USC. No, I think
that's reasonable. I actually think that that's reasonable. And give

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me them, cardinal homie. They are gonna make this ugly.
They are going to shut this high because if you
can stop us Lincoln Riley's offense from running the football.
Caleb Williams did not look great last year. If they
could stop them, I'm running and I think Stanford will
do a good job of stopping them from running the football,

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trying to make them throw the ball all the time,
which is gonna play in their favor. Give me Stanford
plus them eight? Was it eight and a half? I
might need a no. Is it an eight and a
half or nine? It's eight and a half. Some places
have at nine. We'll stick with eight and a half.
I'm gonna need autumn points, though I wish it was nine,

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but uh, I'm gonna need autumn points. Well. Betters are
probably gonna drag this up even higher as we get
closer to kickoff, but I'm gonna I'm gonna go with USC.
And here's why. Stanford means nothing to Lincoln Riley. It
means nothing to all those transfers. It just Dave David
Shaw means nothing to Lincoln Riley. There is no there's
no weird juju from how weird these games always go

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that has anything to do with any of the staff
that is at USC right now outside of maybe Dante Williams.
And so I think you're gonna get a four team
point USC win. Here I'll go to USC M M. Listen,
the Juju carry carries over like Oregon Standford Juju It
carry carries over. Brother. All right, last game up Eastern
Washington Oregon. What is the line on this game? Eastern

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Washington last week played Tennessee State thirty nine Oregon. You
know they had a scrimmage last week, so their first
game is this week. So where are you going? If
you had to set the line, what would you put
it at? Probably? I mean Oregon on the scored three

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three points last week, so it would be very conservative.
I probably put it at thirty two. Oh, then you're
gonna like this because it is Oh my god, that
is gross. Give me. Give me Oregon all day. They
are they're gonna win this game by like thirty five points.
They better win this game by thirty five points. Yeah.

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Their quarterback ball forty six times for five touchdowns, Andy
rush for another sixty yards. Yeah. I think we're just
gonna be different this week because I think that I
think this is a I think twenty is about where
I max it out at um and I think it's
probably gonna take because Oregon still hasn't had the opportunity
to go through what everybody else did, which is to

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find themselves. Right. They still probably need that quarter to
figure things out, so I think they pull away. I
do think that they win. But twenty is about where
I'm comfortable at and twenty one is just beyond that.
So let's just be different on almost every pick. I
feel real good about this week. Baby. If I'm twelve
and oh that makes you what like three and three

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and nine, I think where you like two, we're on
the same side of like two of them. Okay, so
hey to in two and ten you'll be okay. Yeah,
I think I think you'll recover at some point, but
it won't be this week, baby. UM final final thing
is um. So the pack twelve overall had a good

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week last last week, the teams at the top didn't
do the Both teams at top lost. I thought Utah
still looked very respectable, very good. Oregon got trash canned.
But now after this next week, how will we be
viewing the conference? After Mississippi State are Mississippi State, Arizona,

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Oregon State, Fresno State, um cal U, n l V,
Arizona State, Oklahoma, State, Air Force, Colorado, and Washington State Wisconsin.
Because because the other games are not consequential. I'm not
giving Washington State a chance. I hope I'm wrong about that.
But the four games to me that they have to

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win at least two of or else we're just gonna
get made fun of by everybody is Oregon State, Fresno State,
Colorado Air Force. They're not gonna So we're then either
of the Arizona schools. I think if they go two
and two in those and I expect everybody else to
kind of do their job, I think I think we'll

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be okay. Um, but it would look really good for
the like. So if like Arizona and Oregon State both
win in Arizona State and Colorado can't, then I think
people will look at that and be like, oh, that
that makes sense. I don't think it will give anybody
any reason to ship on our conference any more than
they already are. But if they go oh and four

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in those games and Washington State gets blown out at Wisconsin,
nobody's gonna care about what happens with Alabama State in
U C. L A or Eastern Washington and Oregon. Yeah,
it would be nice though, to have a you know,
a thirteen out of fourteen weekend like the SEC had
last last weekend. Yeah, if both Arizona schools win, then

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you will then then that will erase what happened last
week in my opinion, because then people be like, Oh,
the conference is really thick in the middle. Yep, that's
a that's a that's what she said. God all right,
I'm George Reiser, he's Ralph after peace out, Catch you
guys later.