In a new episode of Project NIL with Anthony Gargano & William Penn Charter School Director of Athletics Danny DiBerardinis discuss Arch Manning's NIL valuation dropping over $3M, the top 10 High School Girls Basketball Programs, and Mental Health Sports Coach Danielle Martin stops by to discuss the mental side of athletes with more pressure to increased exposure in the NIL era.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy uh Fox
Sports Saturday. This is Project NIL. Danny D d a
D Daniel D. Bernard denis athletic director of Penn Scharter.
I'm Anthony Gargano of the Fellas and your resident sports Dad,
(00:27):
and this is Project NL. We dive into youth sports,
high school, college, everything that surrounds the NIL and to
get the kids ready for it. And we're heating up
with some hoops. Good morning, Danny D.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's going on? Cause how are we doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Brother? We're doing well, man, We're doing well. In my world.
We are youth football playoffs. We have our first playoff
game tonight. Let's go man, big big weekend for the boys.
Go View. We are Clearview youth football program, the Pioneers.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Who we matching up with this weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We have the Marleton we're playing. Yeah, you know, you
know it's funny. Uh, the Game Changer app. When any
parent knows the Game Changer app really well, it's a
great app. It really is. I mean like every all
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the stuff is on it, like all the schedules. Some
some of these programs use team snap. I I we
like I like the Game Changer that we're playing Mount
Laurel in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I love the Game Changer app.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I follow, you know, my nephews games, you know, throughout
the throughout the season. But also it's cool, you know,
when you meet a recruiter, you know, someone you want
to you know, kind of follow. You can always stay
up to date, get some stats. It's really cool. It
gives a lot of variety and to uh, you know,
to the following the youth game. It gives you a
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lot of cool different ways to follow. So I really
enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Let me ask you a question that we're talking about
this because I do want to talk about social media
and the role of social media with today's athlete and
understanding what you need to do with it. But you follow,
you know, so the Game changerp you have the player profile,
the whole thing. Will you do that? Will you use
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that a lot to uh to look at you say,
to help start identify kids?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, I mean, well could you know parents and students
will let you know and be like, hey, this is
this is my team. If you want to follow along,
this is our schedule right start to the schedule. But
you know, you subscribe, So I get a lot of
notifications throughout the day because people will remind you, and
you know, I'll link on and you know, get the
highlights of when game's finished, and it just it's a
good way to follow along, keep tabs and really, you know,
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I know what's going on today's youth sports world, right,
it's it's a great.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Wow, that's wild. They I didn't even think about that
as a tool for somebody like you and the recruits.
I guess, you know, how do you guys do it
from a recruiting standpoint identifying some talent because you know
you're talking about you know, you know, seventh eighth graders.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah, I mean, well, you got to rely on your coaches, right,
I really like I really pushed my coaches to be
tapped in into the youth world about networking and connecting, right,
really using this uh opportunity to identify great student athletes
who would love to be part of our community. So
I rely on our coaches and then you know, it
gets to my level at some point, and you know,
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I like to just stay you know, stay in touch
and I'll make sure, you know, at an open house
or you know, if we identify someone that we think
is really important to our community. I'll make sure and
reach out and have conversation with their parents and then
they might say, hey, you know this is you can
follow us on Game Changer if you want to get
to games. They passed that along and then you know,
you get a bunch of notifications. So it started with
me following my nephew's team years ago, just so I
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can get updates and make sure. I was, you know,
with baseball, checking in seeing see how he's hitting the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And then I was able to follow up with them
after the game.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
But then you know, it's evolved, so then you know,
you get all these different updates you follow these teams.
So I'm gonna have to add you know, I'm gonna
have to add the Clearview Squad to my to my
list of teams to watch man.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's great, that's great. You know the Game Changer we
uh the Bay. It's great for baseball because for baseball,
a lot of times they live stream the games right
on right on the app.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh yeah, you get it live.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You can see guys on first and second people were
updating in real time.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, and then you have the video out like, so
what we'll do is we'll put the cell phone behind
home plate so you have you can actually watch the games.
It's the coolest thing because during the pan that I
was talking to the CEO so their own the companies
owned by Dick Sporting Guns. Yeah, the ah which is
really cool and it's in fact, I'm gonna get the
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CEO on he's a great guy. We had this whole
conversation about it. The it's was born. The video streaming
piece really started during the pandemic because a lot of
the grandparents couldn't travel and you know, uh when the
kids started to play again, or at least before and
then after things opened up a little bit, it was
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great because parents, the grandparents were able to watch their grandkids,
you know, right right over the internet.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
No, it's a it's a brilliant idea. I love when
teams have the ability to do the live stream. Not
not always a lot of teams just do the live updates.
When you go to Extra mind do the live treatment.
It really makes it really cool.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And I would love to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I got a lot of questions about, you know, how
it came to be and how it's grown and developed
because it's a really cool app and I think there's
still of possibility for it to grow. And like you said,
like there's parents, people are you know, traveling all over
country also for recruitment.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't know if they.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Really think of it on that end, but there's a
really really a lot of opportunities for it, and it
gives an avenue for these kids, another avenue for these
kids to be highlighted, which is always important.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You know. What's wild too is this whole concept of uh,
recruiting and putting your own little like you you're basically
your own video resume out there. Like, so that's what
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social media is for. Like we talked about this and
that we touched on it once before, but I think
it's important to dive in. But if you're if you're
a parent, how what's the role of Instagram? Right? Twitter?
And you know you're going to follow all the coaches
and everything else, but you're gonna have your own your
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own video package, your reels? What do you what are
you doing with it? How are you going to use
it as a tool?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, it's really important and that's it's the right word,
and it's it's using it as a tool, right, it's
so important for it to be a tool opposed to
a lot of people, you know, they don't really know
how to use it, and it can turn to be
it's a tool, it could turn to something that could
be actually detrimental to.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
In your development if you're not using it the right way.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Because when you're getting recruited at a high school, not
so much at a high school level, but at a
college level, they're doing a deep dive into you. Man,
They're looking into what you're posting, how you're using it right,
especially in this nil era where this is an avenue
for you to get paid if you're doing it the
right way right. Because we've talked about this in previous weeks,
but a breakdown is the schools are a lot of
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the schools have a salary cap of right about twenty
one million dollars to spend across the board. And then
there's a collective which is additional money. But you have
to justify that money spent out as a collective. Right,
So there's a third party Deloitte. It oversees this pot
of money and a big way for that additional money
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to be used is branding and how you're you know,
if you have a following and if if you're if
you're if you're a good brand partner for these big
companies and you have to justify that. So besides the
fact that it helps you get recruited, it also in
that small percentage that are getting at that aile money,
it really can take you to that next level and
give you the opportunity to make a good sizeable amount
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of income through it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, you know, yes, you know when you think about
you know, a kid like arch Manning. Let's go to
him for a second, because they got a question about it.
You know, he's Warby Parker, some really big brands that
that you know he'll wind up working for. His ANIL
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deal at one point was estimated at six point eight
million dollars, right, crazy eight, but it dropped to three six.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Fretty explain this for a second. I'm going to read
you the AI version. What it says arch Manning his
NIL valuation was a was a record was six point
eight at one point was estimated that it's still high,
but it dropped a three point six million because of
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his inconsistent performance on the field.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So yeah, so I mean that's still just his name
image and likeness that is still that three point six
is based off what he's bringing in and what his
you know, what his brand is worth.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, Parker Raising Gains and red Ball or his biggest sponsors.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah and again.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So that just shows you the twofold part of it, right,
Like his social media and following is part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
And you also have to deliver on the field.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Right, So he's looking like the number one pick now
he because like he has to come back to college
next year. Right, So the play part of it dropped,
but he still has that branding part to fall back on, right.
And I tell kids like Arch is one of the
he's the one percent of the one percent, right, right,
But not for the for the regular youth, you know,
kid trying to grow up and trying to get developed
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and trying to you know, play high school and college sports.
I think it's you know, it's like a digital resume
for you. It's crazy to think as a kid, right,
but it's this digital resume for you, and it's important
to showcase you know that you're a good member of
the community.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
So, like I always say, like post.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
More than just sports, right, you want to have a
good mix of like your highlights or things developing in
the bio, stating what your GPA is, you know where
you live, right, what teams you play for. But also
like if you do volunteer work, right, do stuff like that.
You have to make it bigger than just whatever sport
you're playing because it's well balanced, because they're recruiting you
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as a person these days, and you need something that
sets you apart because there's so many people that are
so talented, right this world, there's so many kids that's
so competitive.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
This market is so competitive right now.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Every little thing that sets you apart, you need to maximize, right,
whether that's something you do on the court and intangible.
But it's crazy to think social media is something that
can set you apart. So how are you going to
maximize this this tool that you have, right? How are
you going to make it a tool and not make
it something that's detrimental to you? So it's really I
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always tell people to like think of it as a
digital resume, right for recruiting. You know, put out positive stuff,
make sure you're you know, you're putting stuff that's more
than sports, but also have it as a way to
contact you and highlight everything you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, that's great advice, man, it's great advice. You know, kids, listen,
I remember talking to agents. I just think you started
to evolve. I remember talking to agents who are like,
oh my god, I got to go back. We got
to scrub the kids social media because you know, you're
a kid being a kid, right, so you know, let's
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take the innocent level and nothing. That's just awful. But
you're you know, tweeting nasty things about a player because
you're a fan, right, like you know, all of a sudden,
it's like, whoa, what's what's going through this kid's head?
We got to make sure. Well he's fifteen and you
know he's you know, and he's watching his favorite team Blues.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yes, so, and it's crazy and that's on the innocent side. Yeah,
it could come back and haun't you right? So you
have to make sure now because it's such in the forefront.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You never think this. You would think, you know, these
are kids, let them be kids.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
But something you say when you're fourteen, when you're getting
recruited's eighteen year old could pop out and really harm you.
So it's important for these parents to monitor social media
and really teach kids that it's a tool, and I
try to do courses throughout the year for our student
athletes on it to like the do's and don't right
for their pages and what.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Ye give me a little it give us a little
a bridged version.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, So we bring in a company usually that they
highlight the keywords.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
There's a bunch of keywords that you should have right
that just pop up when you're searching or when you're
vetting someone, right, because they might just put you through
some software. So there's always the dos and don't there's
always you know, saying like what what goes better?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
What highlights better? What? What are ways to separate yourself?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So they have a bunch of different tricks and it
evolves every year, but I try to do it at
the end of the season, you know, April or may
bring in this company that does a really good job
of you know, highlighting all the things that can help
you be successful in this space and also the things
that could be detrimental to you in the space.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's good stuff, that's real good. It's great, great tool
for for the athletes. All right, let's switch gears a
little bit because it is basketball season. Yes, it's under way.
We have In fact, I started my practice this week.
It was a crazy week because he saw the intersection.
I was telling you we had we have a football
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playoff game tonight. We started basketball practice in earnest. So
we went from we would have football practice five thirty
to seven thirty. We then jump in a car and
then we do basketball practice seven forty five to nine thirty.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The grind, oh.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Man, I mean, my poor mothmall. I felt bad for
him because he's probably he's sick of me because I
help out, Like I'm an assistant coach on all three
sports that he plays. Yeah, and you know, like it's
just he and I constantly, and then at ten o'clock
it's like what do you want to eat? Right because
my wife and my oldest have already eaten, so it's like,
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what do you want to eat? Buddy? You know, it's
a lot like the pizza, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And credit to these kids man, that they were able
to do both. I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
We talked about it a lot, encouraging the multi sport
athlete and how important it is.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
But it's dedication, man, and your body. You know, you're
on it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You're moving it's a lot on the parents, right getting
you You work all day, then you have to get them.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You know, you're you're grinding with them, so you're you're.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
A part of it. Dude. It's a grind, man, it
really is. But that's my whole night. Like, you know,
I get out of work and it's like all right,
like now it's yo. It's it's you to the field,
to the gym.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But it's also a great time for you guys to bond, right.
I always tell parents, like, you know, they everyone sees
these dollar signs now, But it's also like you get
to spend a lot of time with your kids one
on one, right, And that's in this world where everyone
thinks technology and kids want to be on.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Their tablets and iPads.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
It's it's really cool to be able to those car rides. Man,
you're you're gonna you're gonna miss them one day, so.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Uh dude, I I know. And you know it's funny
they really open up. Like like the other night, Master
was talking about school and we were getting conversations about
stuff and it was just you know, it was great.
It won't my heart because it was you know, he
was sharing a lot and I'm you know, you know,
I try it to probe, like to fine line, right,
(16:07):
Like you want them to be able to share with
you organically, and you're not forcing them because it's not
gonna tell you anything. So you know, it was kind
of cool. And we went with this whole conversation about
he was talking about school and stuff, so it was good.
It was You're right on, I'm never missed that car,
right for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, And they don't appreciate now, but as you get older,
like I've thinking back, they were really fond memories with
me and my dad, right, So it's always as they
get older, right, they might not appreciate it as much
right now, but at at some point they like, I
love those days. It was really important to me, And yeah,
it it does.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's a bonding thing for real, man, You got that right,
all right, Danny Date, let's go to the top ten
high school girls basketball. Last week we did the boys.
This week, let's look at the top ten high school
girls program.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, and before we get into I saw a highlights
from last night A local girl close to you and
Hannah Hill Dago is at Notre Dame. She played at
Paul the sixth in New Jersey. Yeah, she is an
absolute menace. She is one of the top players in
the country and they were running twenty fourth in the
country and they took down USC last night, who's like
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a top ten team, and she had the game winner
with like two seconds left.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So I want to give her her flowers. The other
night she had a triple double with steals. She's an
absolute menace.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
What Yeah, I heard about her. Paul the six is
not far from where I'm at, And yeah she is.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
She's a stud. Wow, that's awesome. She's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Let's do this. We're gonna take a time out, all right,
and we're going to do the Girl's Top ten on
the back end of the show, along with our mailbag.
Coming up Danielle Martin, who is a terrific she's a
mental health sports coach and she's gonna give some tips
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of the whole thing. She's terrific. We'll talk to Danielle
coming up next, and then we'll do the Top ten
Girls program. So it's still lots to do. It's Project
Nil Danny d d A d Danny bernadinas from the
Penn Charter, the oldest quicker school among the oldest schools
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Welcome back Project Ni L Danny d d A d
Danny Di Bernadina's athletic director of pantrot Our High School.
I'm Anthony Gargano, Residents Sports that Fellas coming up next,
by the way, at the top of the hour, joining
us now. I love this woman. Danielle Martin the true
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mindset's philosophy. She she's an former athlete, she's a mom
of baseball mom. Her son's big time achievers for terrific ballplayers,
and she really handles the mental side of sports from
college through youth. Danielle, good morning or good evening, Thanks
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for staying up.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Good morning. Hello.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, it's it's early early morning here on the East Coast.
I know you're on the West coast, so you're able
to stay up for us, and we really appreciate it. Uh,
just to get things started, and I want you to
meet Danny, our athletic director from Pantard Our High School.
But just to get started, Dan, what when we talk
(20:58):
about the mental health field and it's growth. You've seen it,
you've seen it with your own sons, but you've seen
it the importance of it. Finally we're understanding it from
an athletic side.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Oh. Absolutely, the mental game, the mental piece of sports,
not just even for the mental health aspect up to
give somebody a space to just have a safe space
to talk their truths and maybe some of the things
going on that they normally wouldn't say in the athletic environment,
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like within their team space, they have a different source
to kind of speak it and then also work out
some of the technical and tactical pieces of the game
between the white lines. It's important.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
For sure, Amy, Yeah, no, I mean it's huge, and
to have people and have a specialists like you Danielle
is so important in today's ever changing landscape. You know,
these kids are getting pushed in a million direct directions
and this is new, right, this is this this nil phase,
the social media, it's all growing and developing and it's
it's changing and people, you know kind of push forward
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the mental aspect of it, and they kind of just
you know, look at the goals and don't really think
about how this is affecting these fourteen, fifteen or eight, nine,
ten year.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Olds, right.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So to have people in the field that have this
information and be able to have as a resource is
really important. And you know, we we're at Penn Charter,
we push our kids to you know, we have a
sports psychologist that's part of our staff that our kids
can go to and you know, when there is issues
or when you know, give our coaches the latest you know,
tips and tricks which are going on to have kind
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of handle these situations that we have to navigate. So
it's really important and you know, just very thankful to
have people like you in the sports world because it's
growing and it's changing, and it can be scary for
these kids at times.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Thank you. I appreciate that. I agree with you. I
think that with the ever change NCAA stuff, you know,
down at that younger level, I feel like they're just
getting pressed and pressed more and then pressed more and
pressed more. In the avenue of a competition. In sports,
it was already there, you know, it was already a
small percentage of kids that can make it. And now
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it's not that it's less or anything like that, it's
just getting pressed in more directions than it ever was.
And I was just talking to somebody yesterday about a
former Big league player who has a travel ball, and
I was asking him just about, you know, what he
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thought about the competition and the pressures of competition now
as it compared to you know, not too far back
in the day, but it just you know, the nil,
it seems like it's removed amateur sports altogether. You know,
kids are amateur. It's a very small window, noiw. And
(24:01):
now it's your pro athlete, because the moment that you're
taking money for playing sports makes you technically a pro,
which is interesting when you look at it like that. So, yeah,
there's a lot of pressures. There's the fear of failure
that lives between the white lines and the technicalities of
sports themselves. And then so that's kind of in the game,
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and the challenge is in the game. And then now
the exterior, the environment of the game is twice a
part as it ever was. So those pressures add a
lot of different, I don't know issues, And.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh my god, yes, Danny. It starts young too, right,
So my little one is base at baseball and you're
a mother of two sons, two baseball players, right, yes,
and you know baseball more than any other game is
just a It tortures you, right, because it's a game
(24:56):
that's built on failure. And so these travel all say,
these tournaments every weekend, the gabbet of emotions. Oh my god,
the tears. You see it all and it's cut wrends.
You get tied. Hey, well it's great, they're playing well,
you feel great about it and they're happy. But man,
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when they're struggling, it's tough.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
It's so tough. And I think that's why it's it's
really important them for them to learn early on that
having a process and understanding, which is what the mental
piece is. It's not just plain to the results. It's like, hey,
I get the result or I don't get the result.
They're happy if they get it, they're sad if they don't.
And you've got to really teach on that entitlement is
(25:43):
not the way and we're not entitled in sports. It
owes us nothing and the process and understanding what that is.
People use that word, but they don't really define it,
define it and lay it out for these young kids,
even big leaguers, there's times where I've asked them about
their so called process, and maybe they didn't realize they
had one. They had some talent. They did a lot
(26:04):
of right things at the right time, right places, and
got to where they got with a lot of hard work,
work and dedication. But these young kids, you know, the tears,
the stress. I sometimes feel like the parents need the
mental mental course coaches more than oh oh my.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
God, yeah level ye oh for sure. I mean they
definitely need a part of it.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
And I just want to touch on something you said,
like amateurism is the age is just slowly slowly shrinking, right,
And before before we had these kids had to think
about it, they were more mature, right, they're eighteen to
twenty two. Right now, it's it's trickling down the kids
that are, you know, fourteen, fifteen years old. So people
kind of forget about the mental side of this, right
They see the dollar signs and see, oh, this is
(26:49):
great for everybody, but they don't understand because we don't
have enough data on it, like the mental warfare that
could have if you're not doing the mental reps for it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
So I always try to talk.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
To you're one hundred percent right, because the sport of
baseball is psychologically abusive anyways, it just is it is
in the NIL. You know, there's a lot of layers.
There's so many layers to the NIL piece that people
aren't realizing. Like, first of all, that's taxable money to
(27:20):
your kid, taxable money. And there's a lot of kids
running out there making some mistakes, you know, getting that money.
I know that before when it was more the NIL
is more geared bigger numbers towards football, basketball, And those kids,
some of them are not being educated. They're just saying, yeah,
I'll take the money, and they go buy these fancy
(27:40):
cars and then they get tax bills and they're pretty
caught up like okay, well what do I do now?
And it's putting them in a hole. So you can't
just be handing money out like that. And some parents
they don't understand how the NIL works. And yeah, these kids,
these kids don't they don't even understand themselves as they
(28:03):
as they are in the game, Like they don't understand
who they even are in the game. And also that
they aren't who they are in the game at the
same at the same place. That's not their identity. You know.
They need to say, hey, you're You're not just this,
You're so much more. And so there's just I know,
all the layers. Yeah, yeah, it's so important because I
(28:26):
mean it's tough. That's why a lot of athletes later
on in life, football, all the pro athletes, if they
haven't understood that, or someone hasn't stopped and just even
cared enough to say that to them or allowed them
to have that perspective, they they retire and they don't
know who they are and they feel super lost. You know.
You there's a lot of you know. Another thing, and
(28:47):
I can't stand this topic, but it's worthy of saying,
is there's a lot of adolescent suicides at an all
time high in sports and the pressures start to become
too much because they just don't have the perspective or
even just constantly playing a game like baseball through the
frame of failure. There's other perspectives, there's other things. And
(29:09):
then also just I mentioned this earlier, the technical and
tactical pieces of the game. Really understanding the game they're
playing and understanding how to slow down a bit in
a game so that they can number one enjoy it
more and then number two even be better and and
gain their edge in competition so they can go out
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and actually have a chance, and they can actually see
that chance of within the competition field that they're in
nil and all the other exterior pressures, they're like, oh,
I got this, And that's when you that's when it's
really fun to see a kid kind of take the
reins and run with it and know what he's doing
and do it in a healthy way, which is always
so fun.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
How do we how do you start like what's your
what's your recommendation? And before we get out of here,
you have to give people your contact, But how do
you start, like, say, you know, I got I got
my twelve year old right, how do we begin the
process of the mental health coach?
Speaker 7 (30:11):
Well, that's that's pretty young. But I think asking them, hey,
you know, you know, especially they're a baseball player, to say, hey,
you know, baby's pretty mental game. What do you think
about that? And just I like to kind of feel
out where I My job is to meet athletes, no
matter how old they are, where they are and hearing
about their perspective. How they see the game, how they're
(30:32):
really feeling. And also do you know the difference between
feel and feeling And a lot of times of course
they're not going to know that, but kind of just
getting a feel. What do you what do you feel
your weaknesses are? What do you feel your strengths are?
I really you know, I'm I don't work very clinically.
I don't just get hired by parents. I always I
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always tell them, hey, I work with your kid, and
I got to make sure he's on he or she
is on board for this just as much as you are.
And once those kids and it's good just to have
the conversation and to give them a different perspective whether
they're like, no, I don't need this, you know, because
also I'll tell everybody this, no little tough athlete wants help. Hey,
(31:15):
let's get you some help. Yeah, no things. You would
have said that to me at twelve, thirteen, fourteen, all
the way up, yea, how long I competed, I would
have said, yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Answers on gethe you got the world licked? Yeah at all.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Yeah, you're like, hey, elite, Hey, guess what. The best
athletes they have support and they have some mental support.
They have someone to talk to and help guide them
in their game, and it's just a good person to
go to that has some you know, has some answers
for you. And I think just introducing it, asking, feeling
it out, letting them understand what elite is going to require,
(31:51):
that there's going to be some things that they might
really need to do and some things that they should do,
and just teaching them and letting them make their own
decisions to because I think a lot of times parents
we make so many decisions for our kids or do
too much. I remember at a home visit with one
of the big league teams during in high school before
my oldest they were trying to draft him, draft him
(32:13):
out of high school, and they said something to me,
to him to me, and it changed how I did
things With the younger one. He said, Hey, so do
you do your do you do your old laundrie? Do
you cook? He like looks at me and we both
start laughing. And the guys were like, well, you know,
we see a lot of kids fail more off the
(32:35):
field field than on while you pull him out of
high school, and and that was interesting to me. I
was like, so, how long do you think, you know,
how do you think you would do how long do
you think it would take you without your mom around
to play to play this game at a high level
and then to go home and actually take care of
yourself and do those things, do the little things that
(32:56):
are really big things. And they said, hey, mom, you
know you're disabling your kid or what and like, yes,
he was kind of kidding, not kidding, and I kind
of laughed it off, but later I was like, no,
I love I love doing things for them, and that's
part of my support to him is that they can
focus on those things and those things are taken care of.
(33:17):
And but he was right because as soon as you
went to college, you know it, you know, stuff starts
piling up around them. And I can't imagine, you know,
when they just get drafted, because it's even you know.
And he said that this year he got drafted and
he goes, my gosh, it's so lonely, and yeah, you
are on your own. He goes, you know, mom, I
remember that question, and he was like, you disabled him.
(33:40):
He goes, I'm glad that, you know, I had that
stepping stone of college and really had to kind of
do those things for myself and learn how to do them.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, so you got school all these plat lists. Come on, man,
you know you should at least be able to cook
for your kid. I mean it's kind of you know,
it's crazy.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
He's just like you got to. I think it was
just something to think about because we don't think.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
About that because no, no, it is good. No, No,
you're right. Hey, Dan, we could do this all day,
and we're gonna have to get you to stay up
a lot, all right, because we need this. You are unbelievable.
Every time I talk to you, I get excited. You
are just fabulous. Do me a favor because people are
asking for your information. What's the best way to get
(34:26):
a hold of you.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
So I have a website that's actually built for the
younger kids. It's a subscription model. It's true mindsets dot com.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Another good place to get me is on the Instagram
at true Mindsets. Or I'm on Twitter Danielle thirteen eight
two five to two. I don't. I don't typically sit
on social media media, but I will check it. They
can get me there or they can get me also
at Danielle at true Mindset. That's dot com, which is
(35:01):
my email directly to me.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's great. You are terrific, So we're gonna be bugging
you a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right, Danielle, thank you so much, and I appreciate
all you do. It's it's such a I know it
kind of gets overlooked, but such an important job in
the sports field.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
So thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
And yeah, we definitely need to pick your brain more.
So we'll be we'll be tapping in.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Well, I really appreciate it. I'm not sure. I felt
like I was slurring my words at two twenty.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I don't know what's worth five twenty. Yeah, and we're
five to twenty. I don't know what's worse.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
So good time, right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's perfect. You're the greatest, uh, Danielle Martin fantastic. She's
just an incredible, incredible resource. Uh, we'll come back. We've
got to do the top ten girls programs in basketball.
And I got a couple of mail back questions. This
is Project nil right here on Fox.
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Speaker 2 (36:14):
All right, welcome back to Project Niolt. Don't forget you
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the podcast like it. Do us a solid. We appreciate it,
all right. I want to get to the girls top ten.
I don't want to lose that. So without further ado,
I know you've done some research, Dandy d into the girls'
high school basketball team. Give us the top ten in
the country right now for us to keep an eye
out of.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, and this is based off you know, we did
some research. We looked at returning rosters. I'm a big guy,
and that's it, you know, the meshing together, right. I
don't want to, you know, I don't. I think teams
with a lot of transfers might figure it out at
some point. But so we did some research. Right, there's
a lot of lists out there, but no games have
been played yet. So it's based on returning players and
what rosters look like locally, you know, across the country.
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So coming in number ten, we have Mount Verd Academy
in Florida. So powerhouse on the boys side. They're coming
up on the girls side as well. So number ten
in the country is.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Not Verde is now they're one that in every sport
right like, because they're football too. You hear about them.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
They're pretty good in football, but basketballs they're they're they're
they're focused.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
That's where they're really elite and super competitive year and
year out. So Mount Verde number nine, I mean number ten.
Number nine is Spire Academy in Ohio. So Spire is
like this kind of this developmental center slash school. They
built this massive facility very similar to IMG. Oh wow, okay,
(38:02):
and their girls team is revving up. Their boys team
has always been pretty good, but now their girls team
is cracking into the top ten, leading into the country
right now.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
So big, you know, big time program.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
They have all the facilities, they're really you know, taking
that next step. So yeah, Spyer Academy and Ohio number
number nine on the list this year, all right, number eight,
number eight, we got Johnston in Iowa.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
So public school, right, I love one of public school.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Public School in Iowa cracks the top ten. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Graduations Johnston High yea.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
So big time for Johnston. Coming in at number seven.
We have Bishop McNamara down in Maryland. Oh nice, okay, yeah,
and that really competitive DC Virginia Baltimore League. Bishop McNamara
really strong team this year. So I have them at seven.
Coming in number six Boy's power and this is more
(39:01):
of a you know, we're getting a lot of these
factories on the list, but I amg academy.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I'm really big on the girls side. Again, historically great
on the boys.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Side and basketball and football and in other sports.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
But cracking in in the top six.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
And then number five a local school to us, West
Town Academy, West Town and you know Westchester, PA.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yes, yeah, right near outside Philadelphia. Yeah, they're a pretty
good program, huh yeah. And their girls they have a
top ten girl in the country. She's unbelievable. So West
Town coming in number five. Number four, we have Sieric
Cannon Canyon, so again another boy power. That's where the
bronze kids went they've been Oh yeah, Canyon, I know
(39:43):
that's where I knew the name. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Number four, number three Ontario Christian also out in California.
A lot of people have these guys maybe ranked one
on some list, but we have them ranked number three,
number two, Long Island Lutheran Academy in New York. So
that's where Carmelo's son went, That's where VJ. Edgecom went.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Anthony, Oh, is it really Okay Island Lutheran. Yeah, So
they've been on the map for basketball really.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Doing it wild, like you go from you know, he's
from the Islands and he wound his way found his
way to Long Island Lutheran. That's wild, yep.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
And the number one team in the country. Another one
out in California, Archbishop MIDI. They returning a bunch of people.
They don't have the really the top five players, the
top ten, but they bring up a bunch of top
two hundred players and they've returned a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
So I have them leading a season as number one
team in the country.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Archbishop Midy, that's awesome. That's your top that's your top
ten in girls high school basketball across the country. The
academy life is interesting. I think we're gonna have to
tackle that next week. Of these factories that you brought
up now in Ohio, in Florida with I am, They're
(41:01):
they're all over the place. It's really interesting. We're out
of time, So get your questions. I promise we're gonna
get this podcast going because we need to do it.
Danny great stuff. Uh stay tuned. Fellas are coming up
next
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy uh Fox
Sports Saturday. This is Project NIL. Danny D d a
D Daniel D. Bernard denis athletic director of Penn Scharter.
I'm Anthony Gargano of the Fellas and your resident sports Dad,
(00:27):
and this is Project NL. We dive into youth sports,
high school, college, everything that surrounds the NIL and to
get the kids ready for it. And we're heating up
with some hoops. Good morning, Danny D.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's going on? Cause how are we doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Brother? We're doing well, man, We're doing well. In my world.
We are youth football playoffs. We have our first playoff
game tonight. Let's go man, big big weekend for the boys.
Go View. We are Clearview youth football program, the Pioneers.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Who we matching up with this weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We have the Marleton we're playing. Yeah, you know, you
know it's funny. Uh, the Game Changer app. When any
parent knows the Game Changer app really well, it's a
great app. It really is. I mean like every all
(01:28):
the stuff is on it, like all the schedules. Some
some of these programs use team snap. I I we
like I like the Game Changer that we're playing Mount
Laurel in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I love the Game Changer app.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I follow, you know, my nephews games, you know, throughout
the throughout the season. But also it's cool, you know,
when you meet a recruiter, you know, someone you want
to you know, kind of follow. You can always stay
up to date, get some stats. It's really cool. It
gives a lot of variety and to uh, you know,
to the following the youth game. It gives you a
(02:04):
lot of cool different ways to follow. So I really
enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Let me ask you a question that we're talking about
this because I do want to talk about social media
and the role of social media with today's athlete and
understanding what you need to do with it. But you follow,
you know, so the Game changerp you have the player profile,
the whole thing. Will you do that? Will you use
(02:30):
that a lot to uh to look at you say,
to help start identify kids?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, I mean, well could you know parents and students
will let you know and be like, hey, this is
this is my team. If you want to follow along,
this is our schedule right start to the schedule. But
you know, you subscribe, So I get a lot of
notifications throughout the day because people will remind you, and
you know, I'll link on and you know, get the
highlights of when game's finished, and it just it's a
good way to follow along, keep tabs and really, you know,
(02:58):
I know what's going on today's youth sports world, right,
it's it's a great.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Wow, that's wild. They I didn't even think about that
as a tool for somebody like you and the recruits.
I guess, you know, how do you guys do it
from a recruiting standpoint identifying some talent because you know
you're talking about you know, you know, seventh eighth graders.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah, I mean, well, you got to rely on your coaches, right,
I really like I really pushed my coaches to be
tapped in into the youth world about networking and connecting, right,
really using this uh opportunity to identify great student athletes
who would love to be part of our community. So
I rely on our coaches and then you know, it
gets to my level at some point, and you know,
(03:46):
I like to just stay you know, stay in touch
and I'll make sure, you know, at an open house
or you know, if we identify someone that we think
is really important to our community. I'll make sure and
reach out and have conversation with their parents and then
they might say, hey, you know this is you can
follow us on Game Changer if you want to get
to games. They passed that along and then you know,
you get a bunch of notifications. So it started with
me following my nephew's team years ago, just so I
(04:08):
can get updates and make sure. I was, you know,
with baseball, checking in seeing see how he's hitting the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And then I was able to follow up with them
after the game.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
But then you know, it's evolved, so then you know,
you get all these different updates you follow these teams.
So I'm gonna have to add you know, I'm gonna
have to add the Clearview Squad to my to my
list of teams to watch man.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's great, that's great. You know the Game Changer we
uh the Bay. It's great for baseball because for baseball,
a lot of times they live stream the games right
on right on the app.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh yeah, you get it live.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You can see guys on first and second people were
updating in real time.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, and then you have the video out like, so
what we'll do is we'll put the cell phone behind
home plate so you have you can actually watch the games.
It's the coolest thing because during the pan that I
was talking to the CEO so their own the companies
owned by Dick Sporting Guns. Yeah, the ah which is
really cool and it's in fact, I'm gonna get the
(05:11):
CEO on he's a great guy. We had this whole
conversation about it. The it's was born. The video streaming
piece really started during the pandemic because a lot of
the grandparents couldn't travel and you know, uh when the
kids started to play again, or at least before and
then after things opened up a little bit, it was
(05:33):
great because parents, the grandparents were able to watch their grandkids,
you know, right right over the internet.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
No, it's a it's a brilliant idea. I love when
teams have the ability to do the live stream. Not
not always a lot of teams just do the live updates.
When you go to Extra mind do the live treatment.
It really makes it really cool.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And I would love to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I got a lot of questions about, you know, how
it came to be and how it's grown and developed
because it's a really cool app and I think there's
still of possibility for it to grow. And like you said,
like there's parents, people are you know, traveling all over
country also for recruitment.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't know if they.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Really think of it on that end, but there's a
really really a lot of opportunities for it, and it
gives an avenue for these kids, another avenue for these
kids to be highlighted, which is always important.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You know. What's wild too is this whole concept of uh,
recruiting and putting your own little like you you're basically
your own video resume out there. Like, so that's what
(06:37):
social media is for. Like we talked about this and
that we touched on it once before, but I think
it's important to dive in. But if you're if you're
a parent, how what's the role of Instagram? Right? Twitter?
And you know you're going to follow all the coaches
and everything else, but you're gonna have your own your
(06:59):
own video package, your reels? What do you what are
you doing with it? How are you going to use
it as a tool?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, it's really important and that's it's the right word,
and it's it's using it as a tool, right, it's
so important for it to be a tool opposed to
a lot of people, you know, they don't really know
how to use it, and it can turn to be
it's a tool, it could turn to something that could
be actually detrimental to.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
In your development if you're not using it the right way.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Because when you're getting recruited at a high school, not
so much at a high school level, but at a
college level, they're doing a deep dive into you. Man,
They're looking into what you're posting, how you're using it right,
especially in this nil era where this is an avenue
for you to get paid if you're doing it the
right way right. Because we've talked about this in previous weeks,
but a breakdown is the schools are a lot of
(07:47):
the schools have a salary cap of right about twenty
one million dollars to spend across the board. And then
there's a collective which is additional money. But you have
to justify that money spent out as a collective. Right,
So there's a third party Deloitte. It oversees this pot
of money and a big way for that additional money
(08:07):
to be used is branding and how you're you know,
if you have a following and if if you're if
you're if you're a good brand partner for these big
companies and you have to justify that. So besides the
fact that it helps you get recruited, it also in
that small percentage that are getting at that aile money,
it really can take you to that next level and
give you the opportunity to make a good sizeable amount
(08:29):
of income through it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, you know, yes, you know when you think about
you know, a kid like arch Manning. Let's go to
him for a second, because they got a question about it.
You know, he's Warby Parker, some really big brands that
that you know he'll wind up working for. His ANIL
(08:51):
deal at one point was estimated at six point eight
million dollars, right, crazy eight, but it dropped to three six.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Fretty explain this for a second. I'm going to read
you the AI version. What it says arch Manning his
NIL valuation was a was a record was six point
eight at one point was estimated that it's still high,
but it dropped a three point six million because of
(09:30):
his inconsistent performance on the field.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So yeah, so I mean that's still just his name
image and likeness that is still that three point six
is based off what he's bringing in and what his
you know, what his brand is worth.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, Parker Raising Gains and red Ball or his biggest sponsors.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah and again.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So that just shows you the twofold part of it, right,
Like his social media and following is part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
And you also have to deliver on the field.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Right, So he's looking like the number one pick now
he because like he has to come back to college
next year. Right, So the play part of it dropped,
but he still has that branding part to fall back on, right.
And I tell kids like Arch is one of the
he's the one percent of the one percent, right, right,
But not for the for the regular youth, you know,
kid trying to grow up and trying to get developed
(10:18):
and trying to you know, play high school and college sports.
I think it's you know, it's like a digital resume
for you. It's crazy to think as a kid, right,
but it's this digital resume for you, and it's important
to showcase you know that you're a good member of
the community.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
So, like I always say, like post.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
More than just sports, right, you want to have a
good mix of like your highlights or things developing in
the bio, stating what your GPA is, you know where
you live, right, what teams you play for. But also
like if you do volunteer work, right, do stuff like that.
You have to make it bigger than just whatever sport
you're playing because it's well balanced, because they're recruiting you
(10:57):
as a person these days, and you need something that
sets you apart because there's so many people that are
so talented, right this world, there's so many kids that's
so competitive.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
This market is so competitive right now.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Every little thing that sets you apart, you need to maximize, right,
whether that's something you do on the court and intangible.
But it's crazy to think social media is something that
can set you apart. So how are you going to
maximize this this tool that you have, right? How are
you going to make it a tool and not make
it something that's detrimental to you? So it's really I
(11:28):
always tell people to like think of it as a
digital resume, right for recruiting. You know, put out positive stuff,
make sure you're you know, you're putting stuff that's more
than sports, but also have it as a way to
contact you and highlight everything you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, that's great advice, man, it's great advice. You know, kids, listen,
I remember talking to agents. I just think you started
to evolve. I remember talking to agents who are like,
oh my god, I got to go back. We got
to scrub the kids social media because you know, you're
a kid being a kid, right, so you know, let's
(12:07):
take the innocent level and nothing. That's just awful. But
you're you know, tweeting nasty things about a player because
you're a fan, right, like you know, all of a sudden,
it's like, whoa, what's what's going through this kid's head?
We got to make sure. Well he's fifteen and you
know he's you know, and he's watching his favorite team Blues.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yes, so, and it's crazy and that's on the innocent side. Yeah,
it could come back and haun't you right? So you
have to make sure now because it's such in the forefront.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You never think this. You would think, you know, these
are kids, let them be kids.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
But something you say when you're fourteen, when you're getting
recruited's eighteen year old could pop out and really harm you.
So it's important for these parents to monitor social media
and really teach kids that it's a tool, and I
try to do courses throughout the year for our student
athletes on it to like the do's and don't right
for their pages and what.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Ye give me a little it give us a little
a bridged version.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, So we bring in a company usually that they
highlight the keywords.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
There's a bunch of keywords that you should have right
that just pop up when you're searching or when you're
vetting someone, right, because they might just put you through
some software. So there's always the dos and don't there's
always you know, saying like what what goes better?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
What highlights better? What? What are ways to separate yourself?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So they have a bunch of different tricks and it
evolves every year, but I try to do it at
the end of the season, you know, April or may
bring in this company that does a really good job
of you know, highlighting all the things that can help
you be successful in this space and also the things
that could be detrimental to you in the space.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's good stuff, that's real good. It's great, great tool
for for the athletes. All right, let's switch gears a
little bit because it is basketball season. Yes, it's under way.
We have In fact, I started my practice this week.
It was a crazy week because he saw the intersection.
I was telling you we had we have a football
(14:11):
playoff game tonight. We started basketball practice in earnest. So
we went from we would have football practice five thirty
to seven thirty. We then jump in a car and
then we do basketball practice seven forty five to nine thirty.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The grind, oh.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Man, I mean, my poor mothmall. I felt bad for
him because he's probably he's sick of me because I
help out, Like I'm an assistant coach on all three
sports that he plays. Yeah, and you know, like it's
just he and I constantly, and then at ten o'clock
it's like what do you want to eat? Right because
my wife and my oldest have already eaten, so it's like,
(14:50):
what do you want to eat? Buddy? You know, it's
a lot like the pizza, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And credit to these kids man, that they were able
to do both. I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
We talked about it a lot, encouraging the multi sport
athlete and how important it is.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
But it's dedication, man, and your body. You know, you're
on it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You're moving it's a lot on the parents, right getting
you You work all day, then you have to get them.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You know, you're you're grinding with them, so you're you're.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
A part of it. Dude. It's a grind, man, it
really is. But that's my whole night. Like, you know,
I get out of work and it's like all right,
like now it's yo. It's it's you to the field,
to the gym.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But it's also a great time for you guys to bond, right.
I always tell parents, like, you know, they everyone sees
these dollar signs now, But it's also like you get
to spend a lot of time with your kids one
on one, right, And that's in this world where everyone
thinks technology and kids want to be on.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Their tablets and iPads.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
It's it's really cool to be able to those car rides. Man,
you're you're gonna you're gonna miss them one day, so.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Uh dude, I I know. And you know it's funny
they really open up. Like like the other night, Master
was talking about school and we were getting conversations about
stuff and it was just you know, it was great.
It won't my heart because it was you know, he
was sharing a lot and I'm you know, you know,
I try it to probe, like to fine line, right,
(16:07):
Like you want them to be able to share with
you organically, and you're not forcing them because it's not
gonna tell you anything. So you know, it was kind
of cool. And we went with this whole conversation about
he was talking about school and stuff, so it was good.
It was You're right on, I'm never missed that car,
right for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, And they don't appreciate now, but as you get older,
like I've thinking back, they were really fond memories with
me and my dad, right, So it's always as they
get older, right, they might not appreciate it as much
right now, but at at some point they like, I
love those days. It was really important to me, And yeah,
it it does.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's a bonding thing for real, man, You got that right,
all right, Danny Date, let's go to the top ten
high school girls basketball. Last week we did the boys.
This week, let's look at the top ten high school
girls program.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, and before we get into I saw a highlights
from last night A local girl close to you and
Hannah Hill Dago is at Notre Dame. She played at
Paul the sixth in New Jersey. Yeah, she is an
absolute menace. She is one of the top players in
the country and they were running twenty fourth in the
country and they took down USC last night, who's like
(17:23):
a top ten team, and she had the game winner
with like two seconds left.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So I want to give her her flowers. The other
night she had a triple double with steals. She's an
absolute menace.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
What Yeah, I heard about her. Paul the six is
not far from where I'm at, And yeah she is.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
She's a stud. Wow, that's awesome. She's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Let's do this. We're gonna take a time out, all right,
and we're going to do the Girl's Top ten on
the back end of the show, along with our mailbag.
Coming up Danielle Martin, who is a terrific she's a
mental health sports coach and she's gonna give some tips
(18:04):
of the whole thing. She's terrific. We'll talk to Danielle
coming up next, and then we'll do the Top ten
Girls program. So it's still lots to do. It's Project
Nil Danny d d A d Danny bernadinas from the
Penn Charter, the oldest quicker school among the oldest schools
(18:24):
in the country, pennch Roder High School. I'm Anthony Gargan,
a resident sports dad. This is Project Nil on Fox.
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Speaker 2 (19:43):
Welcome back Project Ni L Danny d d A d
Danny Di Bernadina's athletic director of pantrot Our High School.
I'm Anthony Gargano, Residents Sports that Fellas coming up next,
by the way, at the top of the hour, joining
us now. I love this woman. Danielle Martin the true
(20:08):
mindset's philosophy. She she's an former athlete, she's a mom
of baseball mom. Her son's big time achievers for terrific ballplayers,
and she really handles the mental side of sports from
college through youth. Danielle, good morning or good evening, Thanks
(20:33):
for staying up.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Good morning. Hello.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, it's it's early early morning here on the East Coast.
I know you're on the West coast, so you're able
to stay up for us, and we really appreciate it. Uh,
just to get things started, and I want you to
meet Danny, our athletic director from Pantard Our High School.
But just to get started, Dan, what when we talk
(20:58):
about the mental health field and it's growth. You've seen it,
you've seen it with your own sons, but you've seen
it the importance of it. Finally we're understanding it from
an athletic side.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Oh. Absolutely, the mental game, the mental piece of sports,
not just even for the mental health aspect up to
give somebody a space to just have a safe space
to talk their truths and maybe some of the things
going on that they normally wouldn't say in the athletic environment,
(21:32):
like within their team space, they have a different source
to kind of speak it and then also work out
some of the technical and tactical pieces of the game
between the white lines. It's important.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
For sure, Amy, Yeah, no, I mean it's huge, and
to have people and have a specialists like you Danielle
is so important in today's ever changing landscape. You know,
these kids are getting pushed in a million direct directions
and this is new, right, this is this this nil phase,
the social media, it's all growing and developing and it's
it's changing and people, you know kind of push forward
(22:09):
the mental aspect of it, and they kind of just
you know, look at the goals and don't really think
about how this is affecting these fourteen, fifteen or eight, nine,
ten year.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Olds, right.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So to have people in the field that have this
information and be able to have as a resource is
really important. And you know, we we're at Penn Charter,
we push our kids to you know, we have a
sports psychologist that's part of our staff that our kids
can go to and you know, when there is issues
or when you know, give our coaches the latest you know,
tips and tricks which are going on to have kind
(22:39):
of handle these situations that we have to navigate. So
it's really important and you know, just very thankful to
have people like you in the sports world because it's
growing and it's changing, and it can be scary for
these kids at times.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Thank you. I appreciate that. I agree with you. I
think that with the ever change NCAA stuff, you know,
down at that younger level, I feel like they're just
getting pressed and pressed more and then pressed more and
pressed more. In the avenue of a competition. In sports,
it was already there, you know, it was already a
small percentage of kids that can make it. And now
(23:19):
it's not that it's less or anything like that, it's
just getting pressed in more directions than it ever was.
And I was just talking to somebody yesterday about a
former Big league player who has a travel ball, and
I was asking him just about, you know, what he
(23:40):
thought about the competition and the pressures of competition now
as it compared to you know, not too far back
in the day, but it just you know, the nil,
it seems like it's removed amateur sports altogether. You know,
kids are amateur. It's a very small window, noiw. And
(24:01):
now it's your pro athlete, because the moment that you're
taking money for playing sports makes you technically a pro,
which is interesting when you look at it like that. So, yeah,
there's a lot of pressures. There's the fear of failure
that lives between the white lines and the technicalities of
sports themselves. And then so that's kind of in the game,
(24:21):
and the challenge is in the game. And then now
the exterior, the environment of the game is twice a
part as it ever was. So those pressures add a
lot of different, I don't know issues, And.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh my god, yes, Danny. It starts young too, right,
So my little one is base at baseball and you're
a mother of two sons, two baseball players, right, yes,
and you know baseball more than any other game is
just a It tortures you, right, because it's a game
(24:56):
that's built on failure. And so these travel all say,
these tournaments every weekend, the gabbet of emotions. Oh my god,
the tears. You see it all and it's cut wrends.
You get tied. Hey, well it's great, they're playing well,
you feel great about it and they're happy. But man,
(25:18):
when they're struggling, it's tough.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
It's so tough. And I think that's why it's it's
really important them for them to learn early on that
having a process and understanding, which is what the mental
piece is. It's not just plain to the results. It's like, hey,
I get the result or I don't get the result.
They're happy if they get it, they're sad if they don't.
And you've got to really teach on that entitlement is
(25:43):
not the way and we're not entitled in sports. It
owes us nothing and the process and understanding what that is.
People use that word, but they don't really define it,
define it and lay it out for these young kids,
even big leaguers, there's times where I've asked them about
their so called process, and maybe they didn't realize they
had one. They had some talent. They did a lot
(26:04):
of right things at the right time, right places, and
got to where they got with a lot of hard work,
work and dedication. But these young kids, you know, the tears,
the stress. I sometimes feel like the parents need the
mental mental course coaches more than oh oh my.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
God, yeah level ye oh for sure. I mean they
definitely need a part of it.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
And I just want to touch on something you said,
like amateurism is the age is just slowly slowly shrinking, right,
And before before we had these kids had to think
about it, they were more mature, right, they're eighteen to
twenty two. Right now, it's it's trickling down the kids
that are, you know, fourteen, fifteen years old. So people
kind of forget about the mental side of this, right
They see the dollar signs and see, oh, this is
(26:49):
great for everybody, but they don't understand because we don't
have enough data on it, like the mental warfare that
could have if you're not doing the mental reps for it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
So I always try to talk.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
To you're one hundred percent right, because the sport of
baseball is psychologically abusive anyways, it just is it is
in the NIL. You know, there's a lot of layers.
There's so many layers to the NIL piece that people
aren't realizing. Like, first of all, that's taxable money to
(27:20):
your kid, taxable money. And there's a lot of kids
running out there making some mistakes, you know, getting that money.
I know that before when it was more the NIL
is more geared bigger numbers towards football, basketball, And those kids,
some of them are not being educated. They're just saying, yeah,
I'll take the money, and they go buy these fancy
(27:40):
cars and then they get tax bills and they're pretty
caught up like okay, well what do I do now?
And it's putting them in a hole. So you can't
just be handing money out like that. And some parents
they don't understand how the NIL works. And yeah, these kids,
these kids don't they don't even understand themselves as they
(28:03):
as they are in the game, Like they don't understand
who they even are in the game. And also that
they aren't who they are in the game at the
same at the same place. That's not their identity. You know.
They need to say, hey, you're You're not just this,
You're so much more. And so there's just I know,
all the layers. Yeah, yeah, it's so important because I
(28:26):
mean it's tough. That's why a lot of athletes later
on in life, football, all the pro athletes, if they
haven't understood that, or someone hasn't stopped and just even
cared enough to say that to them or allowed them
to have that perspective, they they retire and they don't
know who they are and they feel super lost. You know.
You there's a lot of you know. Another thing, and
(28:47):
I can't stand this topic, but it's worthy of saying,
is there's a lot of adolescent suicides at an all
time high in sports and the pressures start to become
too much because they just don't have the perspective or
even just constantly playing a game like baseball through the
frame of failure. There's other perspectives, there's other things. And
(29:09):
then also just I mentioned this earlier, the technical and
tactical pieces of the game. Really understanding the game they're
playing and understanding how to slow down a bit in
a game so that they can number one enjoy it
more and then number two even be better and and
gain their edge in competition so they can go out
(29:30):
and actually have a chance, and they can actually see
that chance of within the competition field that they're in
nil and all the other exterior pressures, they're like, oh,
I got this, And that's when you that's when it's
really fun to see a kid kind of take the
reins and run with it and know what he's doing
and do it in a healthy way, which is always
so fun.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
How do we how do you start like what's your
what's your recommendation? And before we get out of here,
you have to give people your contact, But how do
you start, like, say, you know, I got I got
my twelve year old right, how do we begin the
process of the mental health coach?
Speaker 7 (30:11):
Well, that's that's pretty young. But I think asking them, hey,
you know, you know, especially they're a baseball player, to say, hey,
you know, baby's pretty mental game. What do you think
about that? And just I like to kind of feel
out where I My job is to meet athletes, no
matter how old they are, where they are and hearing
about their perspective. How they see the game, how they're
(30:32):
really feeling. And also do you know the difference between
feel and feeling And a lot of times of course
they're not going to know that, but kind of just
getting a feel. What do you what do you feel
your weaknesses are? What do you feel your strengths are?
I really you know, I'm I don't work very clinically.
I don't just get hired by parents. I always I
(30:53):
always tell them, hey, I work with your kid, and
I got to make sure he's on he or she
is on board for this just as much as you are.
And once those kids and it's good just to have
the conversation and to give them a different perspective whether
they're like, no, I don't need this, you know, because
also I'll tell everybody this, no little tough athlete wants help. Hey,
(31:15):
let's get you some help. Yeah, no things. You would
have said that to me at twelve, thirteen, fourteen, all
the way up, yea, how long I competed, I would
have said, yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Answers on gethe you got the world licked? Yeah at all.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Yeah, you're like, hey, elite, Hey, guess what. The best
athletes they have support and they have some mental support.
They have someone to talk to and help guide them
in their game, and it's just a good person to
go to that has some you know, has some answers
for you. And I think just introducing it, asking, feeling
it out, letting them understand what elite is going to require,
(31:51):
that there's going to be some things that they might
really need to do and some things that they should do,
and just teaching them and letting them make their own
decisions to because I think a lot of times parents
we make so many decisions for our kids or do
too much. I remember at a home visit with one
of the big league teams during in high school before
my oldest they were trying to draft him, draft him
(32:13):
out of high school, and they said something to me,
to him to me, and it changed how I did
things With the younger one. He said, Hey, so do
you do your do you do your old laundrie? Do
you cook? He like looks at me and we both
start laughing. And the guys were like, well, you know,
we see a lot of kids fail more off the
(32:35):
field field than on while you pull him out of
high school, and and that was interesting to me. I
was like, so, how long do you think, you know,
how do you think you would do how long do
you think it would take you without your mom around
to play to play this game at a high level
and then to go home and actually take care of
yourself and do those things, do the little things that
(32:56):
are really big things. And they said, hey, mom, you
know you're disabling your kid or what and like, yes,
he was kind of kidding, not kidding, and I kind
of laughed it off, but later I was like, no,
I love I love doing things for them, and that's
part of my support to him is that they can
focus on those things and those things are taken care of.
(33:17):
And but he was right because as soon as you
went to college, you know it, you know, stuff starts
piling up around them. And I can't imagine, you know,
when they just get drafted, because it's even you know.
And he said that this year he got drafted and
he goes, my gosh, it's so lonely, and yeah, you
are on your own. He goes, you know, mom, I
remember that question, and he was like, you disabled him.
(33:40):
He goes, I'm glad that, you know, I had that
stepping stone of college and really had to kind of
do those things for myself and learn how to do them.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, so you got school all these plat lists. Come on, man,
you know you should at least be able to cook
for your kid. I mean it's kind of you know,
it's crazy.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
He's just like you got to. I think it was
just something to think about because we don't think.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
About that because no, no, it is good. No, No,
you're right. Hey, Dan, we could do this all day,
and we're gonna have to get you to stay up
a lot, all right, because we need this. You are unbelievable.
Every time I talk to you, I get excited. You
are just fabulous. Do me a favor because people are
asking for your information. What's the best way to get
(34:26):
a hold of you.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
So I have a website that's actually built for the
younger kids. It's a subscription model. It's true mindsets dot com.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Another good place to get me is on the Instagram
at true Mindsets. Or I'm on Twitter Danielle thirteen eight
two five to two. I don't. I don't typically sit
on social media media, but I will check it. They
can get me there or they can get me also
at Danielle at true Mindset. That's dot com, which is
(35:01):
my email directly to me.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's great. You are terrific, So we're gonna be bugging
you a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right, Danielle, thank you so much, and I appreciate
all you do. It's it's such a I know it
kind of gets overlooked, but such an important job in
the sports field.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
So thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
And yeah, we definitely need to pick your brain more.
So we'll be we'll be tapping in.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Well, I really appreciate it. I'm not sure. I felt
like I was slurring my words at two twenty.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I don't know what's worth five twenty. Yeah, and we're
five to twenty. I don't know what's worse.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
So good time, right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's perfect. You're the greatest, uh, Danielle Martin fantastic. She's
just an incredible, incredible resource. Uh, we'll come back. We've
got to do the top ten girls programs in basketball.
And I got a couple of mail back questions. This
is Project nil right here on Fox.
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all right. I want to get to the girls top ten.
I don't want to lose that. So without further ado,
I know you've done some research, Dandy d into the girls'
high school basketball team. Give us the top ten in
the country right now for us to keep an eye
out of.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, and this is based off you know, we did
some research. We looked at returning rosters. I'm a big guy,
and that's it, you know, the meshing together, right. I
don't want to, you know, I don't. I think teams
with a lot of transfers might figure it out at
some point. But so we did some research. Right, there's
a lot of lists out there, but no games have
been played yet. So it's based on returning players and
what rosters look like locally, you know, across the country.
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So coming in number ten, we have Mount Verd Academy
in Florida. So powerhouse on the boys side. They're coming
up on the girls side as well. So number ten
in the country is.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Not Verde is now they're one that in every sport
right like, because they're football too. You hear about them.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
They're pretty good in football, but basketballs they're they're they're
they're focused.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
That's where they're really elite and super competitive year and
year out. So Mount Verde number nine, I mean number ten.
Number nine is Spire Academy in Ohio. So Spire is
like this kind of this developmental center slash school. They
built this massive facility very similar to IMG. Oh wow, okay,
(38:02):
and their girls team is revving up. Their boys team
has always been pretty good, but now their girls team
is cracking into the top ten, leading into the country
right now.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
So big, you know, big time program.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
They have all the facilities, they're really you know, taking
that next step. So yeah, Spyer Academy and Ohio number
number nine on the list this year, all right, number eight,
number eight, we got Johnston in Iowa.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
So public school, right, I love one of public school.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Public School in Iowa cracks the top ten. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Graduations Johnston High yea.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
So big time for Johnston. Coming in at number seven.
We have Bishop McNamara down in Maryland. Oh nice, okay, yeah,
and that really competitive DC Virginia Baltimore League. Bishop McNamara
really strong team this year. So I have them at seven.
Coming in number six Boy's power and this is more
(39:01):
of a you know, we're getting a lot of these
factories on the list, but I amg academy.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I'm really big on the girls side. Again, historically great
on the boys.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Side and basketball and football and in other sports.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
But cracking in in the top six.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
And then number five a local school to us, West
Town Academy, West Town and you know Westchester, PA.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yes, yeah, right near outside Philadelphia. Yeah, they're a pretty
good program, huh yeah. And their girls they have a
top ten girl in the country. She's unbelievable. So West
Town coming in number five. Number four, we have Sieric
Cannon Canyon, so again another boy power. That's where the
bronze kids went they've been Oh yeah, Canyon, I know
(39:43):
that's where I knew the name. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Number four, number three Ontario Christian also out in California.
A lot of people have these guys maybe ranked one
on some list, but we have them ranked number three,
number two, Long Island Lutheran Academy in New York. So
that's where Carmelo's son went, That's where VJ. Edgecom went.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Anthony, Oh, is it really Okay Island Lutheran. Yeah, So
they've been on the map for basketball really.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Doing it wild, like you go from you know, he's
from the Islands and he wound his way found his
way to Long Island Lutheran. That's wild, yep.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
And the number one team in the country. Another one
out in California, Archbishop MIDI. They returning a bunch of people.
They don't have the really the top five players, the
top ten, but they bring up a bunch of top
two hundred players and they've returned a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
So I have them leading a season as number one
team in the country.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Archbishop Midy, that's awesome. That's your top that's your top
ten in girls high school basketball across the country. The
academy life is interesting. I think we're gonna have to
tackle that next week. Of these factories that you brought
up now in Ohio, in Florida with I am, They're
(41:01):
they're all over the place. It's really interesting. We're out
of time, So get your questions. I promise we're gonna
get this podcast going because we need to do it.
Danny great stuff. Uh stay tuned. Fellas are coming up
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