Ryan Hollins & Mike Harmon Talk JJ Redick, Giddey/Caruso Trade, Kendrick Concert & More!

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What's going on? Brother?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Another you do another day in paradise, you know, so
some big stuff afoot. I'm days away from a vacation,
so starting to plan that, you know, these particulars for
some of the day day events kind of things. Kids
team advanced in their playoffs to Virginia, So a couple
of weeks for more soccer going East Coast style. So

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that's fun and exciting, and we crowned a new champion.
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should be. And in the ultimate act of pettiness of
the Lakers said, Hey, we're gonna hire a coach before
your duckboat parade Celtics. We're gonna steal back the news
cycle because you know that game that you played and
you won, that was all fine and good. That was
days ago. Nobody cares anymore. Moving on, But one story
that was under the radar that I wanted to bring

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in off the title is that you now have a
surgery set for Christaps porzingis so all the Hey, immediately,
let's talk about repeating and all this other stuff. There's
a guy that was pretty pivotal to a lot of
what you did this year, and he's got to have
surgery for the quote rare condition which we really never
had explained to us though, Ryan, But you know, coming

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off of a title, you know, Boston now with the
most banners up in an arena and all of that
fun stuff, thought, you know, maybe Dallas after that game
four win, maybe signs of life was I guess I
just hoped and wished way too much, because as we
learned in Shawshank, that's a dangerous thing.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, you know, you're you're right, but hey, congratulations to
prozingis I felt like he came in with so much
hype and planned for the nixt there was a lot
of let down, a lot of frustration with him in
his youth and maturity, and for him to sacrifice himself,

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that's his legacy. You know, this year was a legacy
move for porzingis not that it means anything to any
of any of us or you know, or to him
or anything, but you know, his legacy, you know, is
definitely gonna be this this move in this series. And
you know how well that he played, and I think

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that's great news. With the surgery, the reason I say
is great news is that he was able to play
through it. It doesn't seem career ending, but hey, if
he goes out that's the main to go out with.
So hats off to porsingis Man, And you know, for me,
it was fun kind of watching him really just buy
in to the to the team and uh, you know,

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winning championship mindset because he was a guy that was
under you know, this scrutiny that he kind of couldn't
be that, and he was. He was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, you know, anytime, and we talk about it in
all sports. Right with the NFL, it becomes the you're
a dominant number one receiver forever, but then eventually maybe
that's sept isn't there anymore, which means, hey, you could
you could still catch the ball, you could still move
the chains. Are you willing to become a number two?
And psychologically where that goes In this case, this guy

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goes for being, you know, the main attraction at Madison
Square Garden to be in the fourth or fifth option
most nights and figuring out how to make that work.
So full credit. Last week we did a deep dive.
People can go back and find the podcast on the
Wiley stylings of the thirty five year old Joe Missoula
and some of the psychological tricks he was playing and

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stuff in meetings to try to get guys right, and
I think to some degree, you know, take away a
little bit of the pressure because you add random film
clips that's gonna add some levity to things, and you know,
people watching nature videos is always good for business. But
you know, Perzingis is a guy. For me, it was
more satisfying, more satisfying because you know, I worked with

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Jason Smith in the evening and he's a guy that
as much as he did protests throughout the entirety of
the NBA playoffs, now you picked the Celtics to win it,
so fine. The fact that Porzingis had a huge role
in it was oddly satisfying for me to watch him
squirm and try to separate and say I'm over it.
It's several teams ago. It's okayme like, nah, we're watching

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you die a little bit inside. That's something y'all can
do on your spare time as well. Wherever you get
your audio, go find the podcast Jason Smith and I
from particularly right after the finals, you know, went final
and Porzengis is out there celebrating the championship with his
Celtics teammates, watching him struggle with that and come to

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grips with it. But you know, they are a team
that at least on the surface, is set up for
another run. And we'll get deep into you know, JJ Redick.
Now that it's an official like, we can really extrapolate
what it means. We've got some Austin Reeves sound talking
about it and all that flows out of that, a
lot of NBA news, a lot of rumor conjections, speculation
as we get ready for the draft, because it really

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isn't about the draft, right the draft is, hey, where's
Browny going? Otherwise there's not a lot of buzz for
this year's draft. Ryan Hollins. I know we can always
talk about, well, we don't have expectations. There's not these
seemingly you know, every other year we have to have
a generational player in there. But in the end, teams
are are have stockpiled draft picks and you roll through

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and try to figure out how to fortify your squad.
Celtics sitting there in a pretty good position as well.
Right you're coming off the title, You've got your your
big guns signed, and now it's trying to figure out, all, right,
who else can you add? I mean Derek White's getting
national commercials for beer companies for crying out loud. That's
how deep things got this year.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
No, you know, man, you're you're absolutely right. Here's the
thing with the draft. You know, there's no just clear
cut you know, a lot of times, you know, these
guys are already slid it into their draft position, and
it's hard not to take them wherever that spot is
because of Hey, their high school accolades. Hey, you know
something they did in a major tournament. Hey, you know

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in this generation social media hype. You know, so that
is tough. Uh, this is gonna be the toughest, one
of the tougher drafts to go out and draft. And
they say, because there's not a lot of separation between
the guys, and you're gonna have to figure out, you know,
who is who is and who isn't, and you're gonna
have to really do your homework. So this is gonna

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be a different draft. I think that we always look
back at some of these drafts and say, man, that
draft ended up being horrible, that didn't drafted and being great.
So you know, you don't quite know. But hey, the
one thing we do know, and this is not a knock.
And this is why those players are called generational talents.
There are no Whimby's, you know, there are no uh,

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there are no just major you know, there are no
Lebron James Is, you know, so to speak in this
draft that we see so far. So I think that again,
the teams are gonna have to do their homework. All
eyes are gonna be set. I think you got to
give it up because there is gonna be extensive coverage.
I assume a Bronni, a guy who's drafted late, all

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eyes are gonna be peeled. And hey, maybe even there's
something special going on there. Man, it's not every day
that you know, some people's eyes the goat the greatest
player who ever played his sun ends up getting drafted,
you know, or guys in that caliber. So I'm excited.
We're actually gonna be doing a watch party with the Rockets.
Our Rockets have the third pick, so you know, I'm

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a static and hey, hats off to my Rockets. And
one thing you got to say is that when you
go into these rebuilds, you know a lot of times
teams don't do their homework. You know, it's easy to
swing and miss and the rockets that have been they've
been getting the steal of the draft camp went more
Tar East and alprinshing Gun. These guys are all late
draft picks that have you know, turned into amazing assets

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with the ball.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Club's let's talk about that for a second. The due
diligence and and just the where the NBA is as
a whole. Right, a lot of Draft Night, which is
you know, again expanded in a in a draft that's
being called ahead of its time. Uh, one of the
worst drafts we've seen in years, but let's expand it

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to a second day, and so it becomes Brownie Watch, uh,
and and all of that. And I got plenty on
the sikaphants on television that are that are trying to
rewrite history. We'll do that coming up in about well
it's up the top of next hour. That'll be a
fun little story to go through, something that came to
light at the end of the week. But it's all

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about continuity, right. We'll talk about that a bunch in
these across sports. And you know, I'm the old man
shouting in the wind a lot of times on it,
you know, because let's face it, hot take nonsense requires Hey,
that coach has to go, that GM has to go, Like,
you don't actually get the opportunity to build in most situations, Ryan,

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where you've got a cohesive you know, group of executives
and where you're building players. Now, part of it is
if the guy shows any acumen, you know, you start
looking at what the next contract needs to be and
trying to juggle all of those pieces. But just as
a whole, and certainly sitting in Los Angeles we watch

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it with with the Lakers has just been a revolving
door and there's been many teams that have had the
same exact experience, you know, for the Rockets right now,
you know, we're talking about that kind of patience bringing
that especially in a Western conference that's loaded, it's got
to be the biggest thing they can bring to the
table at the moment.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, it's well, if we didn't learn anything this year,
it's that hey, Steph Curry, Lebron James, Kevin Durant not
making deep runs into play in the playoffs, a lot
of them in the play in and I think that
that says that hey, whoever has that next core is

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gonna be taking that next step. So we've got these new,
these new up and comers, and I think that's the
biggest message for you. So yes, for teams like the Rockets, hey, man,
teams like the Pacers out there who who are far
far ahead of schedule, you can look up and see like, man,
we are we are one piece away. And again that's

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the excitement moving forward. And you're gonna have to look
at a lot of these teams and go, man, we
don't know who could be in it. It's almost you know,
it's funny, it's almost in you don't see this a
lot of the NBA. It's almost like you see it
a lot in the NFL, and you know the NFL,
you go, man, a team can just one player takes
a franchise from from A to B U seemingly overnight.

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And I think for the NBA, it's it's definitely a
changing of the guard, you know, without Curry, Durant and
Lebron James playing deep into the playoffs. And I think
it's exciting to see, but you're you're kind of looking
to see who's that next up and comer because even listen,
Boston was absolutely dominant. Man, they're young guys. That was
big for them. It was big for Luca being there,

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but hey man, Indian was right there in the mix.
They were really really good Rockets. I think had the
most wins in NBA history to either not make the
playoffs are playing. We've talked about that earlier in the year,
but I mean, there's gonna be somebody up next. And
the big excitement with you, Mike, you've talked about it,
Anthony Edwards, is like somebody's gonna take that throne because

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Lebron is showing you and Kerk's showing you. Man, we
you know, we're doing all we can to hang in here,
but we aren't the same you know, single player that
can just lead a championship. Look at Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
You know, well, but just keep going on down the line. Right,
all of the stars that we've known for a decade,
they're either closing in on the end of their run
or it's just a all right, you're having a nice career,
but your team is not a contender. And we chronicled
it basically, Billy Joel. We didn't start the fire style
with all the names that were either out of the

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playoffs altogether or faced early exits. So it's a curious
time six straight years with a different champion. I mean
to think about it. Last year this time, there was
a lot of talk of Missoula getting bounced, we don't
understand him, it doesn't work, and trying to figure out
how to split up Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown and

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where they would end up. I mean, a lot of
photo shop hours were wasted as they came back together
in the fall route to a huge championship run. And
let's face it, in the Eastern Conference you mentioned Indiana.
They're a curiosity. You know, if you're a wagering man,
I know you're not in the NBA spheres. Forty to

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one were the odds I saw the other day for
the Pacers. And remember three of those games they had
a ninety plus percent winning probability in the final minutes
of a game. So just kind of put that one
in your cap and remember it as we go through.
Plenty of draft juggling to be done. Expected to be

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a lot of trades, and there's one that caught my eye,
Ryan Hollins, that we'll talk about in about a half hour.
But we'd be remiss if we didn't circle back to
the biggest story in the NBA. No again, not duck volts,
not celebrations or guys wearing T shirts to mock analysts
about sources they may or may not have. No, no, no, no, no,
it was a coach was hired. Here. We finally got

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the white puff of smoke, and we'll try to figure
out if it all makes sense. Coming up next, He's
Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins, find me at Swollendome.
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We've got our guy Iowa Sam in this morning, I
and our executive producer, and then we'll hear from Isaac
Loewenkron in a couple of minutes as you guys can
continue your long standing beef here once again. But look,

(16:18):
JJ Reddick, it finally happened. We had a little dash
out to the Danny Hurley world. The amount of protesting
over I didn't need leverage. That's my favorite's that's the line. Now,
I don't need leverage is becoming the go to of
I was hacked. You know, like in the social media

(16:39):
sphere when someone says something dumb, No, I was hacked.
You said something dumb because you were drunk or tired,
or someone really got your goat. In this case, you know,
Hurley gets his extra positions, more money in the nil offices,
and whatever else he was looking for, and he moves
on JJ Reddick. We'll find out more of the of

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the contract as we go forward, but it's a final guy.
You know, he's been around the league forever. Teams often
made the playoffs when he was there, and you know
a lot of protestations of skipping the line. And I
guess that's where we start with this Ryan in terms
of skipping the line in all walks of life, if

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there's a path and someone believes in giving you a shot,
I don't know that I'm one to raise my hand
and say, hey, this is problematic. Now when it's the
Lakers franchise, people immediately go this historic franchise, the Laker franchise,
all of those things. I'm starting to sound like George

(17:43):
Carlin's old bit about the children, which I did a
couple of weeks ago. Here on the show is the
idea that since Phil Jackson left, they don't really have
an identity except turnover. So this doesn't, I guess in
the way we're pushing forward feel like a reach for me.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Well, hey, here's the thing. We've seen it for years.
It's not what you know, it's who you know. There
have been a lot of guys who skipped the line,
and there will continue to be whoever ownership deems fit,
whoever you know of late probably the last decade, the
the best player in the organization sees fit. If he's

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that big time of a player, that guy's going to
get the shot. Because an NBA coach has one job
right now, Joe Missoula has one job. JJ Reddick has
one job. Jason Kidd has one job. That's get on
the same page with your star, right and Mike, you
know this when a star gets so big. When Luca

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became Luca and I don't know the inner workings, this
is only from the from the streets that Rick Carlisle
and him weren't on the same page, and Rick Carr
that was an unbelievable coach. Look what he did in
Indiana the first time. Look at what he did, uh
it with Dallas with their championship. Look what he didn't
with Indiana the second time around. Okay, he's a heck

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of a coach, but clearly he wasn't on the same
page with Luca Dodge. Ye one job, get on the
same page, Joe Mizoula. Only one thing. Me and Jason
say that we're gonna sit down and we're gonna watch
The Dark Knight.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right, Okay, got what job not?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Like? Right, We're not about the x's and o's at
Missola because he's a mad scientist. When it comes to that,
he knows is, he knows his stuff. Prad Stevens knew
his stuff. But Prat Stevens wouldn't sitting down watching The
Dark Knight.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Well, but that's it, right, And like when we get
into it the x's and o's and it's about what
the roster looks like, execution and buying. And that goes
back even to the pat Riley days, the Phil Jackson days.
You know who's off and dismissed, Like, yeah, a lot
of it is managing egos, expectations and getting guys moving

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in the same direction. And if you can do that,
the rest fall in line. You know, you just cited
all the superstars, and certainly Lebron James. Yes, he can
opt out, but he can make what fifty two million
dollars a year or whatever it is in Los Angeles,
And unless there's some general, you know, massive pivot in
his stance, it's not like he's gonna suddenly jump ship

(20:18):
and become you know, jump to a random team at
this point, or at least that's that's where what we're
led to believe. So, yeah, it's a guy. I don't
know how deep his relationship with JJ Reddick is. But
you know, any of these reports of Lebron wasn't part
of this at all. I just can't buy. I can't

(20:39):
buy now. I did find the report, and I wanted
to get your opinion. We'll get back into the Reddick
side and what he's got to do and everything in
a second. But there was a report on Friday that
Ginny Buss was genuinely really disappointed that Danny Hurley didn't
take the job. I want to know who the rat
is in the building that put that out to the athletic.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
That she was disappointed, and she was genuinely like I
could have told you she was probably, but that's like, no, no, no,
this was according to sources.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So mean either that like because either I have to
believe that these sources actually exist, Ryan, or I gotta
believe that it's common sense. Well, this is like the
rest of us would be.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's worded like that. But here's the thing. Somebody had
to have a I don't know who it is, somebody
it was probably more disappointed in how things came about.
She probably disappointed in whoever, because somebody had to come
to Genie and say, hey, Jeanie, what about Danny Hurley? Right,
could have been an agent, could have been front office man,

(21:43):
what about Danny Hurley? How about we, you know, try
something different, incredible collegiate success. We tried it with coach
k He turned it down, so did Hurley. But let's
you know what, let's let's try this route. So maybe
the story should have been more so disappointed in X
disappointed whoever created that lead in their job. When it was,

(22:04):
like I said, an agent or an office member whoever
it may have been, said hey about Danny Hardy. I
think you can get them, you know, offer this. They're
not offering that, you know, and they felt like they
had a comfortable number. Otherwise you don't throw it out
and enough to add for him to go and be
a part of something so that that that hopefully puts
the story. I mean, of course she's disappointed, but that's.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Just that was common sense. But the fact that it was,
you know, sources say she's you know, really disappointed after this,
and blah blah blah. I was like, all right, if
there's a source involved for this, which is again common sense,
Like I either have to believe someone in the room
talked right in the in her inner circle, or I'm
throwing away anybody that now gives me anonymous sources put

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your damn name on it. Which is funny because that
was an old hallmark line of Jay Moore's here when
he was at Fox Sports Radio. Genie's husband there. You
go see it all times to get.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
And I do want to hear Chris say my sources
say one more time. I haven't heard it in a while.
I love when Chris does a shout out, mister Bissard,
do it a great job. Odd couple.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
There you go get you got a shout out at
six point thirty in the morning. We'll make sure we
cut in front of that show. Yeah, but it's just
that kind of thing. I you know, on the I
talked to a couple of people, all right, you know,
I talked to a guys at the end of the bar.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Well, I do want to say this because I used
to hate that too. But you know, in the media
on the the the other guys I saw Carmelo a
couple days ago and say, welcome to the dark Side, Carmelo,
and it brings validity, and it sparks the eyes up,

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and there's that question of oh, who's who's the source?
So even myself, you've heard me, and I had to
learn the dark side and the sources, you know. But
it's bad when you know, hey, your source is the
ball boy.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
You know, hey, you're But what's the point, right, there's
just such a wide berth on what constitutes a source.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
The hairstylist on down.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
In an NBA organization, you have no idea where half
the information comes from. So to try to put it
on one or two things, it's it's it's literally, it's
nearly impossible. It is nearly impossible to do because everybody
has so many differing opinions, you know. So for instance,

(24:32):
like let's say the Lakers. Yeah, half the Lakers organizations,
it's like, hey, whatever Lebron wants, he gets, you have
another half that's saying, man, we're tired of that dude.
You know, he wants too much. We didn't win. He's
all this, he's all that. Or you could, Hey, you
have the business side who loves him. You got the

(24:53):
basketball side who says, man, we can't really you know,
do anything with this roster. He's holding us back. You know.
So there there's so much that at the end of
the day goes into it and hey, you know, I
guess we're here for all of it. That that's as
part of being on the dark side. Well, Carmelo officially,
Welcome to the dark side.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Brother took took a long time. He was certainly a part.
I mean, look in that New York media. He had
anonymous sources coming at him from all angles at any
point during his career, no question about that.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
But you know, back to the hiring itself, like first priority,
obviously it's four to five relationships with Lebron and a
d uh. It seems that you know, the conventional thinking here,
Ryan is that this becomes the true push towards making
a d the best player that he can be. Right, obviously,
all the defensive time and time again, health wise, you know,

(25:50):
generally a concern. But got through this year unscathed, but
really unleashing him offensively and making him a focal point.
But from a roster perspective, I mean, what's the first question.
If you're you're JJ Reddick and you're going to Rob
Polinka and the Basketball Odd Brain Trust, you know your

(26:12):
list of demands. If I said, all right, here's here's
my top three things I need to do, what are.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
They established culture? That's first and foremost. Uh So, culture
would tell Rob Polinka. For those who don't know culture,
let's say, hey, I want to be For example, Ime
Udoka in Houston said, I want to be a tough,
gritty defensive team. I need a roster rafel and I

(26:40):
need to draft guys that help me defend. If if
you give me guys that can defend, I can where
I need to go. So JJ rettikin have to come
in and say, hey, these are these are my two priorities.
I want I want defense, or I want shooters, you know,
or hey, I want I want somebody on the offensive end.
And then you plug those guys into a culture and

(27:03):
for the Lakers, for JJ Reddick. As you talk about
Anthony Davis, I think you know, here's here's the thing.
For first off, Anthony Davis was when he's on the floor,
for the most part, he's he's a monster. Okay, he
does this thing, but you need people to get him
easy looks because now it's pick your poison. Anthony Davis
is a great finisher. So if you curl off of

(27:26):
him he sets a screen or something, you know he's
gonna get open. He's gonna make a play. Uh, he's
gonna put you and the team in a really really
successful position. And that's what a D that you know,
you kind of got to buy into, you know, is
is it's not just give him the ball and let
him work out and you know, do whatever he needs

(27:47):
to do. It's no, let's let's get people around him
that get a D easy looks because outside of Nicola Jokic,
he may be the best finisher, uh finishing big in
the NBA.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Right Ian Hollins, Mike Harmon, Fox Sports Sunday. Here Fox
Sports Radio some more into the JJ Reddick hiring in
LA because I mean that it reverberates throughout the league
and you got a lot of guys raising an eyebrow
going what if? How about? So we'll talk about that
a little bit next hour. But coming up after our
update from Isaac Lowancron, we're gonna go and there's a

(28:21):
rumor about the draft that has me mightily intrigued, and
it comes from our guy Mark Stein. I want to
get your thoughts on this, Ryan Hollins, But first, why
don't we go and pay a visit to our friend
Isaac Loewen Kron still licking his wounds. A difficult loss
last night for Angel City FC. Another great call though, iloh,

(28:42):
thank you, you're on it, Bonnie, thank you. But yes,
that was that was tough.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
My only consolation is that Angel City scored the exact
amount of goals that Houston did last night.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Oh wise, Low and Kron, boy, that was kind of
a jerk move on my pardon.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
That was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Going to you too.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I know he'll send you a breakfast sandwich, fia, not
from what.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
A burger Anyway, there was a lot more.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Whoao low?

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Are they even open for breakfast?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Anyway?

Speaker 6 (29:16):
There was a lot more offense last night at Dodger
Stadium because the Dodgers defeated the Angels seven to two,
and the offense provided in part by Shoe Heeyo. Toddy
is twenty third home run of the season to lead
the National League, as he homered for a third consecutive game. Meanwhile,
on the Mount, Tyler glasnow ten strikeouts, no walks in
seven innings for the win. The Colorado Rockies rallied for

(29:37):
two in the bottom of the ninth thinning, the best
the Nationals eight to seven. The winning run scored on
the first walk off pitchclock violation in Major League history.
Here's how it sounded.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
On KOA three balls, two strikes, tied at seven. The
pitch time called time violation. Pitchclock violation on Finnegan.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
And that's the game.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
The Rockies on the pitcher Finnegan taking too much time.
That becomes ball four and for the first time in
the new rules, the Rockies have a walk off on
a pitch violation.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
The Yankees over the Braves eight to three. Aaron Judges
major league leading twenty eighth home run of the season. Finally,
Mike and Ryan, we have an air conditioning update. Okay,
the US Olympic team will be supplying air conditioning units
for US athletes at the upcoming Olympics in Paris. Because

(30:40):
Paris Olympic organizers are not providing air conditioning for athletes
at the Olympic village, They'll instead be utilizing a system
of cooling pipes in the floors in an effort to
reduce the games carbon footprint. So a massive shipment of
air conditioning units heading to Paris for Team USA.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Back to you, guys, does that count his performance enhancing? Probably?
Good point?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Legitimately, I mean just because you're not you know, injecting,
inhaling or swallowing. Hey, you know, is that wrong? What
am I wrong for asking that much? Not wrong at all.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
I mean, it's a legal performance enhancer.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
The fact that you get to train in the altitude
is a whole other things.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
See, I asked, I asked the tough questions here.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Unbelievable, man, what Islo gets on just as anarchy breaks out?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Well, I mean, look, he's a rule breaker. What do
you think about the pitchclock violation? Real quick? Before we
get to our break, here isilo you got a thought
on this?

Speaker 6 (31:44):
I can't wait for the World Series to be decided
by a walk off pitchclock violation. If only Kirk Gibson
and Dennis Eckersley had a pitchclock violation involved right.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Or any game involving Carlton Fisk or anybody else who
would get up in Adjustin's for every p.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Instead of waving the home run fair, he's waving the
pitch clock down to zero.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, he was truly a human Reiin delayed get up
and adjustice cup and his chest protector, and he'd stand
there for twenty seconds at a time. What do you
think about this? Ryan? I mean I saw this last
night and just had to shake my head. This is
not what the founders intended.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
As an athlete, you know, the NBA has had a
number of rule changes. You don't like it at first,
you fuss, you're gonna be upset. It's better for the game.
Nobody wants to sit through these elongated just games. I
mean they cut what how much was cut? What? An
hour and a half off of what they may come

(32:46):
out and do is say, hey, final inning, do whatever
you want. You know, take your time figure it out
or they stick with it. But guess what athletes suggest
the rules? Yeah, no, exactly, and that's on coaching. That's coaching, dude.
So unfortunate loss. But you hope that those things will change,

(33:06):
and I don't think that, uh, you'll see too many
of those in all reality since the rule, Like, am
I wrong? Are you surprised that there's only one? Did
you think there'd be more?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well, not for walkoff situations? No, I mean there's plenty
of violations. Just I guess it was inevitable. And now
they get to put this in Cooperstown. Hopefully that ball
that was in the pitcher's hand that never won gets
put off, gets put in Cooperstown. Here's the first the
new rules are working. There you go, you either have
to get a hit, a walk or take one for

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the team.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
And there's a term mess around and find out, and
they messed messed around and.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
They found out right way to clean it up for
Sunday morning. He's right all to Mike Harmon here Fox
Sports Radio. And coming up next, Yeah, the aforementioned rumblings
and rumors concerning the number one pick coming up in
the draft. I think this is fascinating. We'll talk about
it next here on Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday.
Mike Garment alongside Ryan Hollin's coming up in ten minutes.
When you go and try to rewrite history agendas or
just plain old good research and truth telling, we'll try
to sort it out here. Coming up about ten minutes
from now. But first address a rumor that's out there.

(34:32):
Mark Stein joins Jason and I each week NBA Insider.
He's based in Dallas. Is rumors that the San Antonio
Spurs may look to move up to the number one slot.
Now we know at the Atlanta Hawks and Landry Fields
and the he's saying that they're gonna stand pat, but

(34:54):
there's always the potential of that sweetheart deal that makes
the makes the world su a little bit. We know
the Hawks are overall kind of open for business right now.
We've had trade rumors for pretty much everybody on that roster,
including their two biggest stars, so potential to go. But
the idea that all of a sudden, it's the hey,

(35:15):
how do we link someone up with Wembin Yama, and
that who is it? Is it Sar, Is it another
Frenchman to come over and play with him, or is
you know, Donovan Klinging or someone else making some noise.
But san Antonio Spurs didn't really advance much in the
first year of the Wemby era as well as he
played Ryan Hollins. But you know, to hear the potential

(35:38):
of them trying to slide up to the number one
spot color me intrigued.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, you know, again we talked about earlier in the show,
there is a front office. Even though you're saying it's
not a deep draft, there's somebody that's been identified, and
the Spurs must be saying it's either a smoke screen
or they're saying, this be our guy. Because a lot
of times too, you know, you don't want to let
that intel out. You may see someone that you think

(36:07):
is the next it, you know, and you're not saying, hey,
you know, we think they're this, you know, and I know,
hey for this year is Cam Whitmore. And front office
was a static, you know when he became available, and
it was like, you know, playing that game of cat
and mouse, playing that game of chicken, Right, Hey, do
I have to move up? You know the other team

(36:27):
to go, well, why do you want to move up?
Or why do you want to move down? What do you?
What do you? What do you think is that you
that you like? So you know, keeping that stuff close
to the vest is very important, and hey, who knows
that this san Antonio may be playing the game here,
you know? Or or hey you know sometimes you put
out I don't want to say fake news, but you go, well, well,
we tried to get Trey Young, guys, because the fan

(36:49):
base is probably fed up and saying, you know, no
one's there to throw the ball. We have a guy
who's seven foot six and athletic and mean and jump,
and nobody's can throw the ball to him high enough,
you know, so they'll say, hey, well we try to
get Trey Young. It just didn't work out well.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
But I mean, that was the kind of thing not
to make it all about the the Lakers hiring process,
but that's certainly the big story that's been lingering over
the NBA the last couple of weeks. You know, a
lot of folks walked away when Danny Hurley said no,
It's like, well, see they took their big shot. That's
good enough, ye right, so same thing here. As you know,
you get a little bit out there and then if

(37:26):
you can't pull off a major deal. Look, as a
guy who's a fan, and I say this publicly again
for those new to the show, welcome in. We appreciate you,
Thanks for giving us a few minutes of your time.
I am a White Sox fan. I am from the
South Side of Chicago. Long have the White Sox been?
The quote unquote mystery team revealed after big signings and trades,

(37:48):
it's like, oh, the White Sox were in it. It's like,
were they really or you just kind of tagging them on.
It's because someone in the organization wants to feel good, said, hey,
we gave it our best shot. So that's kind of
where we're at here for the after. There'll be a
million and one rumors between now and when the commissioner
takes to the podium to get booed and then welcome
everybody in. But it's just intriguing, you know, trying to

(38:12):
figure out building around Wembin Yama Popovich and rebuilding that
roster because you've got a couple of pretty decent component parts.
But again, Wemby played as well as he did played
more games that I think most of us thought Ryan
in terms of acclimating to the schedule, the wear and tear,
I think, you know, he overachieved, if that's even possible

(38:36):
given the level of hype that he came in with.
But you know, now it's trying to figure out, all right,
what are the best fits to work with him and
a draft and look, I have no doubt. And you know,
when I listened to the true NBA draft knicks and
folks around the league, when they say, hey, you know,

(38:56):
there's nobody overwhelming in here, doesn't mean you won't find
fifteen guys that have nice, long careers. It's just there's
not the the obvious, at least consensus number one guy.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah yeah, but but again teams are probably not telling
you no. Of course, this is the guy I like.
You know, and hey, remember when you know we talked
about Porzingis, But nonetheless as a prospect, he was a
heck of a prospect and he came out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Porzingis. See it all ties back to Porzengis, the Unicorn
as it were, which is the name has now been
transferred to Victor wembin Yama. Had you watched the guy
in a the local shop doing his h his break
yesterday he pulled a one of one Wemby for somebody.
Oh wow, I'm surprised he stayed his comments. He did

(39:46):
because he probably just paid that guy's mortgage for a year. Yeah, crazy,
crazy stuff, no question about it. At the Ryan Hollins
where you find Ryan on Twitter find me over at
swollen dumb uh. We again, we thank you all for
being part of the extended family, hanging out with us
a little bit here on a Sunday morning. As you're
out and about here in the summer heat, obviously be

(40:07):
safe and make sure you hydrate. Hydrate, hydrate. Coming up next,
we turn our attention to another story dominating the NBA,
but it's all about history and possibly rewriting one of
the greats. We'll talk about it next.

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(41:12):
version of him on Clipped, He's in Uncut Gems, the
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plug for you?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I don't know, man, You're too kind. You make me
feel feel like a lot more than what I really am.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
You're an accomplished man. And in the end, if we
can't sell sell the greatness in ourselves, how can we
expect other people to do it?

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh? Man, look at you?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
There you go Sunday mornings, positivity, there's your there's your
thing looking in the mirror. I'm good enough. I'm gonna
go full Stuart Smallly on you as we do. But yeah,
big day in sports, we get to watch another Fever
and Sky Game later, Iowa. Sam is raising his arms
triumphantly because he's, you know, normally working in the afternoons

(42:03):
here Ryan during the week, so he's blessing us with
an appearance here on a Sunday morning. So the fact
that he got up this early and he'll be rewarded
but being able to be paid to watch Caitlyn Clark,
I think he's very excited about, Wow, did you go?
We'll see we got a Wahoo and we got a
Howard Dean. That's how we know. I was an as

(42:26):
plugged in on a Sunday morning. So we'll get into
the the Clark and and Reese and and all of
that fun stuff a little bit later, because you know,
we've got all Star voting out and we keep seeing
the arenas and arenas, and Caitlin Clark said something you know,
pretty big that I like was a kind of a
challenge a dare to the w NBA as we go,

(42:47):
and it might out help me in my pop culture knowledge,
Ryan Hollins, as well as to a reason why something
she wanted couldn't get done. But we got folks that
are trying to go back and rewrite some history in
the NBA. A story came out the other day that
there's a project that started going back into old games,

(43:09):
specifically targeting Michael Jeffrey Jordan. So as as soon as
I say that, what's the first thing that you would
speculate as to who, what, why, and how someone would
be undergoing such a project, Ryan Hollins.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You want to know why the project? Oh?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I want to see if you'll you'll agree with me,
but I don't want to lead the witness.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Okay, So so you you want me to say, why
are they going after Jordan's Why?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Why would they go back in a well stats project? Well,
here's the thing, Michael Jordan's history.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Here's the thing one uh maybe a Lebron fan, so
one big about the Lebron thing, but there's been a
big push. Uh. There's a guy who's been doing these
Instagram videos or YouTube video I'm not sure what what
he started the property on and he's you know, it's
it's kind of like he's kind of spoofing you know,

(44:10):
eighties and nineties basketball and all of our great legends.
He's going back and he's chopping down these clips and
he's going these guys were horrible and he's he's one
of the nineties were trash and he and it's kind
of sparked this thing where people are going back and
looking or like, you know, he'd had a clip of
you know, he's done it to like everybody, any great player.

(44:31):
He's going and chopping him down. It's sometimes comical because
he's just searching. He goes Michael Jordan couldn't drive to
with his left hand, and he finds all these clips
where Jordan's fumbling the ball off his leg going to
the left. So, you know, I think it stirred up
some controversy. A lot of people say that those legacies
are just cemented and sometimes people are going back and questioning, Okay, well,

(44:53):
what really was the legacy of Michael Jordan. No one
can doubt that he's great. In The biggest compliment that
I believe Jordan gets is from the people he played against,
from his teammates. You know, that's the true when you
when those people are giving you props, that that's the
biggest love you can get. Forget us fans.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So you have Tom Habistro is the gentleman's name goes
up on Yahoo and it's specifically targeting the nineteen ninety
eight season and talking about the disparity in steals Home
and Road from Michael Jordan, and yes, noted Lebron fans
sick aphant, whatever word you want to use for it.
Nick Wright got in the mix and said, well, I

(45:36):
might have had a part in this as a consultant,
so you know, so you know it kind of goes
to that end. He put it on video. I didn't
make that up, so you know that. That's the thing. Look,
it's not me being a protector of Jordan. It just
becomes the all right, what's ruled, what's real, what's imagined,

(45:56):
because it naturally it now starts the slap fight in
the social media spheares of folks going through Lebron James
games and the reading of the rules of what constitutes
a rebound and finding clip after clip of Anthony Davis
kind of palming the ball and tapping it Lebron's way
and getting a tick in the rebound category for Lebron James.

(46:17):
So it seems like we're now going to play that
game in the media and see where we can take
stats and run them down area.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Well, they've already questioned Lebron's Rookie of the Year in
that Carmelo should have got it. That's the one for
Lebron that's going now, Rookie of the Year is not
as big as Defensive Player of the Year, you know,
and for Guard to get out of I think Michael
Cooper got it, that's a huge accolue. And they talked
about Michael Jordan. That's a big like and he was
Defensive Player.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Of the Year, you know, multiple times. Yeah, yeah, so
certainly Guard played. I mean, normally it was the big
men ruling the world. The Rookie of the Year voting
looked like these votes, right, I mean, because if we
just go into a more recent phenomenon, was Jalen Brown

(47:08):
the MVP or was Jason Tatum? There seemed to be
a lot of consternation and handwringing over the way that
vote came out for the finals MVP.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Ryan, Yeah, yeah, well, you know what would the sports
be without controversy. I mean, I think Jaylen Brown got
the MVP. He's just the momentum from everything he did
in the playoffs, rode the wave there. Jason Tatum, man,
you could split hairs with that. But I think Jalen
Brown was a little bit more locked in. You know,

(47:41):
you could say, well.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Hit more shots, because folks immediately went to the accumulative
for Jason Tatum and leading them in points, rebounds, and assists.
But a lot of that came in the blowout final game.
It doesn't take away those stats, but in terms of
building the lead to three to zero and everything else,
you know, there were more signature moments I would say

(48:05):
from Brown along the way, shots don'ts et cetera. But
you know that's just to say a vote wentz what
seven to four and immediately the hands were up, going, well,
I don't know, same thing as we go through back
to some of these others. You know, first Team All
Defense versus who wins Defensive Player of the Year, right,
this year, a lot of folks raising their hand going

(48:26):
how did win Benyama? Just because his team didn't win games,
doesn't mean he wasn't, you know, impactful or perhaps more
impactful than we saw. And certainly Rudy Gobert is never
winning another Defensive Player of the Year award after the
playoffs this year.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
No, it's tough and that's the end of that one. Well,
to me, Defensive Player of the Year comes a lot
with success. You know, what success have you had, you know,
the team's success and their team didn't have the success.
So I think that's where, you know, those questions were raised.
That's why he ended up not getting it. But by

(49:04):
far Wimby was once he kind of figured out that
second half of the season what his length is and
he moved over from playing the four to the five.
I mean, he's I haven't seen anything that intimidating defensively
in a while. And you know a lot of times,
you know, you go over a defensive scouting report about

(49:26):
how you want to guard the other team, and it's rare,
I want to say, for me since Dwight Howard that
you'd go into the paint and you know, in practice
you had to work on jump you know, shot fakes,
you know shot fakes, work on those shot fakes to
try to you know, get him in the air or
something like that. And that's that's a big thing there, man.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, even in that recovery and the fact that he
can go out and guard the perimeter and all is
such a big deal. Jordan, that nineteen ninety eight defensive
player that year, nine time first team defense Player All NBA.
So you know, you go to that, but it's just
it's curious, right as we go in the annals of history.
One of the big things that happened this year was

(50:09):
also going back to baseball, right the implementation of negro
league stats into Major League Baseball and trying to come
to grips with you know, the two separate leagues, but
home run leaders, win leaders, all of these great accomplishments.
Josh Gibson. You know, Willie May has passed away this week.

(50:29):
In going back through he you know, he had a
couple of hits had been added to his career total
during that project as well. So you know, it's it's
trying to figure out, you know, the the good from it,
and then I guess, MythBusters do we do we have
an extension of that? Who does that for the sports
side of it? Because you got to have a cool

(50:51):
beard and wear jaunty hats if you're gonna do that.
I mean, I got a lot of jaunty hats, so
I could be that guy. We can get there. I
just you know, I find it funny, especially when some
of these are going to be subjective and look, I
haven't watched all the old Jordan tape, And let's face it,
what do we see for any of these guys twenty

(51:13):
years later. It's only the good highlights. We don't see
the turnover when they threw the ball anticipating the big
was going to get to his spot and he didn't,
and it's an easy turnover and fast break the other way. No,
we don't see that. That doesn't get romanticized, and certainly
it is not laid out the same way that we
consume sports these days, between betting, fantasy and just the

(51:37):
availability of every team, every game, etc. You know, there's
always agendas in terms of myth building and getting a
guy to the next I mean, how many conversations have
we had about who is going to be the face
of the NBA once Lebron James has done? Plenty of
guys have turned over their microphone to callers to allow
them to stand for their guy. You know. So it's

(52:01):
it's a curious time, you know, if they're going to
do this league wide, I'd be curious to see what
some of those breakdowns start to be? Right? How many
how many assists go away from John Stock?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Oh goodness, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Like, let's let's start checking and ticking the you know,
the boxes for some of our great statistical leaders. You know,
you want to go back. Some of it was just
word of mouth. We don't even have video for some
of the earliest incarnations.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Well, think about the battle too. Right on the other end,
you know, here's the thing. The older generation says, you
got subpar players averaging fifteen to seventeen points because per game,
because the game is so fast, it was harder to
average that. So for the guys who were in the
twenty to twenty five point rings are going and you've

(52:48):
heard a couple comments on average fifty points, stay right,
I'd average fifty easy. The way they guard they couldn't
guard me. You know, that's being thrown around. And it's
not that the rules aren't different or there's less protection
in the paint. What it is is the game is
so much faster. Can you run at that pace so
you can get your thirty? But you walk the ball

(53:09):
up and down the floor, you didn't need to sub out. Hey,
you're resting on defense. The other team's holding the basketball.
So can you play the same amount of minutes night
after night to be able to get there? And to me,
that's the question. But you know you're wondering where, you know,
all this drama's raised from, and it's the debate and
the differences in style and saying, hey, could Jordan do

(53:33):
what he did back in the day in this in
this era? Hey Lebron who you know, you know, I
guess flops and knows how to use the referees and
many people's eyes, will he be able to do what
he did in this era? You know? And that's where
all the questions are. Ray, that's the big hooplah.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Well, that's the beauty of the AI world. We could
get that drawn up for us, because otherwise, you know,
it's just theorizer going whenever we do the hey, let's
transplant this player thirty years later, how would they match up? Well,
if they have the same training advantages, flight schedules, trainers
and everything else that they get the medical marvels, you know,

(54:17):
modern science for a lot of the recovery stuff that
didn't exist in the eighties, the seventies, the sixties, hell
for most of the nineties. I disagree to that led
to what we have now.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Well, well, yes and no, So this is where I disagree.
You know, I always look back at Kareem and the
longevity that Kareem had. And one of the things that
I kind of looked at is what did Kareem do?
You know, he didn't just do basketball training. He was
doing you know, the martial arts training. Sure, so a
lot of you know now the stretch.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Swan doing the yeah is ballet and whatever else.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah, yeah, the yoga those things. But no as far
as technology, no, not even close. So no, they couldn't
just go.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
But I mean you can go and hooked up to
a machine right now and and just sit there and
take a nap.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah. Yeah, Well they did it the old I think
there was a big difference. They did the old fashioned way.
I know all the stories of Michael Jordan and he'd
go out and just smoking, drink and do all these things.
And I'm not saying that he didn't, but I also
believe there's no way that Michael Jordan didn't take care
of his body. No, sure, right, And I don't think
that you're saying that. So I'll give you I'll give
you a story real quick. We had Dion Sanders on

(55:26):
the podcast, and you know what was funny is that
Dion said he'd get his buddies together from an opposing team.
They'd want to go out. He'd take them out. He'd
fill everybody's drinks up. He'd have water and hit his
drink and he'd go out the back door and the
next day they'd be trashed, they'd be going prime. How'd
you do it? Man? I was at the door by

(55:47):
about eleven thirty. Yeah, you guys didn't even know I left. So,
you know, I do think there's a little like you said,
you know, the the story maybe doesn't always fit because
they're they're juicing a little bit, or those guys weren't
just out there going crazy or better. Yet, you know,

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they they cracked the code of nutrition to be able
to play at that level and for that amount of time.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
No, that's it, right, And obviously, you know it's always
you know, one of the things when you go to
the outliers of things. Right when we look at Brady's longevity,
you know, Rogers, you know seeming you know, he got
deep into his thirties, then he has this serious injury.
We'll see what the comeback is. But Drew Brees before
his arm fell off, he got to the league thirties.

(56:38):
He's no, he said, it. I could have played another
four years if it wasn't from my shoulder. I'm like, yeah,
you're a quarterback. That's kind of an important thing.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Oh goodness.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
But like with Kareem, I mean, he's he's a unicorn.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
But think about the training, about the training that he
was doing, you know.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
But again to the point of, you know, someone's got
to be a trail blow that way, and it's cool,
but you know, I'm sure he was looked at with
everybody going, what the hell are you doing over their
Kareem until he was, you know, hanging out with Bruce
Lee and stuff, then he was cool.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah, yeah, but but but nonetheless, yeah, he for sure
had to have extended his career, you know by doing
such one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Well, the style of game helped as well, right, and
not that there wasn't the same wear and tear on
the knees that I certainly don't need to quote airplane
here in terms of dragging big man up and down
the court. But to your point, different pace game, different
style style, make fight and and all those. You know, yes,
there's been some rule changes, but again it's a much

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faster game, and you know, in terms of possessions per
minute and everything else. He's Ryan Allins. I'm buy Carbon
Fox Sports Radio. Watch for that story to continue as
more games get shown out, as the week goes on,
and the battle lines being drawn between generations, which is
always fun. Ryan at the Ryans at Swollen Dome at

(58:01):
Fox Sports Radio is where you find me. Hey, let's
circle back to what has been a dynastic run. At
what point does it become a nostalgia tour. We'll talk
about it next on Fox. Hey, welcome back in Fox
Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins,
Big day of sports. I had euro Copa America, got

(58:26):
some golf going on, F one race rolling through and
then obviously the fever and Sky Tomorrow night Stanley Cup Final.
Leave off the s because otherwise Hockey guy will come
and to attack you. Ryan Hollins. Game seven where we
did not think this series was going. Just like the

(58:49):
Mavericks getting blown out early. It seemed like, ah, this
is gonna be done and we'll be coronating the Florida Panthers. Instead,
we go back to a Game seven, We're hearing the
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Twitter at the Ryan Hollins. Find me over at Swollen Dome.
Lots swirling around in the NBA coming about twenty minutes,

(59:09):
a fun thing for baseball. Normally, Mets talk is reserved
for Jason Smith and me yelling at him. But there
was something that happened in a game yesterday that I
want to highlight because well, I'm gonna get on my
soapbox and scream at people just like the Mets announcers did.
But up in the Bay Area, once Oakland now San Francisco,

(59:32):
the Golden State Warriors trying to tread that and find
that line right some parallels to at least where the
Lakers are theoretically right of older guard trying to figure
out how do you bridge to the next how do
you in this new Jj Reddick era for the Lakers,

(59:52):
how do you take the Lebron and ad and what's
left of their run and push towards that next next
iteration of what you're team is going to be? And
for the Warriors, one of the guys that's been standing
out most consistently as a well he probably isn't there anymore,
Klay Thompson. They're currently at what they call they've hit

(01:00:13):
a wall in contract negotiation. Remember the last time we
saw him thirty two minutes. Oh for ten from the field,
oh for six from three point range, defensive range, everything else.
Points per game, down four from the year prior. Still
have Draymond under contract for another couple of years. Steph Curry,

(01:00:34):
still with his game. But Ryan, if you're looking at
Klay Thompson at this point, if Golden State were to
pay him, what is perceived market value, whether it be
Orlando or some other suitor. Are we just buying into
a nostalgia run or is there still something that Steve
Kerr can can get from him to still make them

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at least on the edge of being a contender.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Yeah, there's a lot that you can get from Klay Thompson.
Make no mistake, Listen, Golden State's going to prepare a
number and they're gonna say, Clay, this is what we
think we value you at for us to stay competitive
and still, you know, go after other free agents to
kind of bolster our roster. And then it seemed like

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the Magic is going to say, well that's where they
value you. We're going ten million, five to ten you know,
probably ten to twenty million. Who knows over that that
that's where we value at and they're not going to
be willing to do that. We're before it's like, hey Clay,
here's his max contract. Boom, take it, here's the extension.
Take it. They're going, we don't know if that's the

(01:01:40):
wisest choice, you know, And Clay's going to ask himself,
do I make a run with my guys? Want to
get up and pack up and move? I've never played
for another organization. How important is the money? Can I
make that money off of the court? Where does my happiness?
Way in? It may not even be about money. Hey
are they respecting me? Because guess what, they don't pay you.

(01:02:00):
They can bench you. You don't have the same say
when they're paying you. They gotta play you. They gotta
put you out there, you know, and they were intrigued
to see that. Keep in mind, man, Clay Thompson just
it's probably a miracle he's playing basketball, you know, tearing
his knee up, then the Achilles, all those things you
know happened. So just impressive that he's there. And you
know it's the competitor, and Clay's gonna have to speak.

(01:02:24):
I mean, I remember, I mean, I never was any
bit of the player of Klay Thompson. But you know,
as a player, you hey, I'm better than this guy.
I'm better than this guy. You know, I can play
at this level and you want to demand that type
of money. But when that money's not being offered, I
had to swallow some pills and say, let me just
go out and be grateful for what I have. Be thankful, man,

(01:02:45):
you're you're here. So I don't know where Clay Thompson
sees himself, but I know other teams will likely be
willing to offer more. Maybe he can, you know, use
some of that juice. If were talking about Hurley using leverage, juse,
get some leverage to say, Golden State. If they see
me this here, you you you should feel the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Yeah, I think that's the curiosity, right, what's the value
proposition for him at this point in terms of and
I hate the term legacy, but let's call it what
it is. That's what we do a lot of here
in sports talk radio and TV, of trying to define,
you know, what a player was, his place in history,
et cetera. Oftentimes unfair, oftentimes with blinders on to circumstances

(01:03:24):
surrounding you know, some of the decisions that get made.
But from Mike Dunleavy Junior and company, you're looking at
a Western conference and you and I have talked about
this a lot towards the end of the season and
then through these playoffs, Ryan is, you've got a younger,
younger batch of guys coming up. We talk about all
the veterans being in the play in games at best,

(01:03:47):
or missing the playoffs altogether. And it's a laundry list, right.
It's that end of a cable movie when they're already
starting the other one in the picture and picture, so
the credits go by really fast. That's the list of
stars of our NBA history of the last ten to
fifteen years that really didn't have an impact in the
playoffs at all. So when we talk about trying to
stay with this, this next iteration of the West and

(01:04:11):
all these young teams on the come Klay Thompson if
he can't defend the way Klay Thompson used to do
and the shooting marksmanship has dipped, then for the Warriors,
it would seem that, you know, you start embarking on
what becomes more nostalgia versus forward thinking, right, unless he's

(01:04:35):
a role player and those minutes get diminished, like it
is a curious balance that Steve current company have to
argue as well of what that next formation of the
squad is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Yeah, I think about Chris Paul and you know, I
think we all kind of thought that Chris was done
because you knew the way that he played the game,
high usage ball in his hands. You know it's going
to get you twenty and ten a night. Those days
were over with it. Crystal smart enough to say, hold on, man,

(01:05:10):
my value is assisting getting guys in the right spots,
leadership development. I can change your organization. And he became
worth every single penny later in age. And you know,
I think the challenge for Clay is adjusting, you know,
because a lot of times Clay can kind of get
angry or get that Clay zone that we've seen and

(01:05:31):
he just it's it's it's remarkable, and he's saying, I'm
going to kind of figure out am I still that guy?
Or do I need to adjust? And can my value
be seen in other places? I may not be the
defenders you noted that he used to be, But you know,
how about me getting guys open, are things going smoother?
What's my effect on the floor and ultimately, you know

(01:05:55):
winning And for him it may chime back to, you know,
developing the guy the group of wings around him. Sorry
to go ahead, Chris, Chris Paul right, and Shay Gilds
as Alexander. They're going, wow, this was great for Shay.
He he kind of got to learn under Chris. It
sped his development up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
There's no question about it. We look at for Chris Paul,
he's got one more year left on the deal as
it currently stands. His name speculated quite often as well
of whether he is retained there with the Warriors. A
lot of potential movement, and we did actually have a
trade that went down this week. We'll break that down

(01:06:34):
as it would be. Contender make some moves and shuffles
up things and I have to raise my hand, going
how did you not get more? We'll do that in
a minute, but first it's our guy, Isaac loewen Kron.
I believe his coffee is kicked in, so let's see
what it's good.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Lord boy, you're not kidding, you are not kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
His eyes just looked a little wider this hour.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
Not justin Timberlake Wide with that's another story.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I can't wait. Well, you don't see what. No, but
they're trying to smear that the officer that pulled him over.
You see this nonsense because the guy's being, you know,
diligent about potentially impaired drivers out there. He's got a
family history and and that's been one of the hallmarks
of his early tenure as a police officer, saying he

(01:07:25):
was over, he was too aggressive.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Ryan, you would know this the best. Wouldn't that officer
make a good NBA referee someday?

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Dude? I mean really, I'm just I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
Just saying I'm getting I'm getting Scott Foster vibes.

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
If I got that strike, sir, he's been drinking tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
Unfortunately not. I'll tell you who was obviously not. That
was Show Toddy. On Saturday night for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
He homered for a third consecutive game for a second
consecutive game. It was against the Los Angeles Angels seven
to two. Is twenty third home run of the season
to lead the National League. This one traveled four hundred
and fifty nine feet. It was his second straight game

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with a home run of four hundred and fifty feet
or longer and his sixth home run of four hundred
and fifty feet or longer this season. Meanwhile, on the mound,
Dodger starting pitcher Killian Murphy. Excuse me, I mean Dodger
starting pitcher Tyler Glass.

Speaker 8 (01:08:26):
They got that, Isaac. No, it looks like uncanny.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
It's the word I just stay from me in Yeah,
I don't know if you've seen this Ryan Killian Murphy
of Oppenheimer and the Peaky Blinders. I don't think I
could say it without the blanket in it, can I?

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
Glass now looks like a professional athlete, but like a
model version of Killian Murphy.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
You know it's it's remarkable. Well he he was flawless,
just like Killian Murphy's performances. No walks, ten strikeouts and
seven innings for the win Rockies Riley for two in
the bottom of that n I'm thinking to beat the
Nationals eight to seven, winning run scored on the first
first walk off pitchclock violation in Major League history on
Koa the.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
Pitch time called time violation, pitchclock violation on Finnigan.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
And that's the game.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
Yankees over the Braves, eight to three Aaron Judges Major
League leading twenty eighth on Ron John Carlos Stanton left
that game due to left hamstrings tightness and is scheduled
to undergo imaging today. Today's action gets underway at eleven
thirty five Eastern is the Phillies host the Arizona Diamondbacks
in a rematch of last year's National League Championship Series.
Mike and Ryan, thank you for humoring me back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
That's two strikes.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Ilo, you have to understand that I'm going for the
third strike. I'm I'm I'm just agitating today for any
challenge has been issued. Ripped Houston, I've ripped justin Timberlake. Yeah,
I need to cut down to the coffee baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Thanks Ilo at Isaac Low and crowd check him out.
Part of the Chargers team coverage as well as Angel
City FC play by play lost last night, but Ilo
standing out as always. Yeah, the Timberlake thing obviously a
serious situation. Folks. You know best be smart on the
highways and byways, and and hopefully if he needs a

(01:10:22):
little bit of help, that he finds the strength of
the people around him to get it. I mean, in
all seriousness, because I seen some pretty crazy punchlines rolling
through in clapbacks as the week war on. Not so
much as the the Kendrick Lamar stuff the other night
that got well. I mean, look, I tease the the

(01:10:47):
Caruso and Giddy trade, but that requires much longer than
we have time for right now. I just thought it
was curious, especially the meme that was going around with
someone from the third deck taking a shot of Lebron
and Savannah and putting the caps going you know, you know,
you gotta be careful here, and then others going, hey,

(01:11:09):
remember when hey, he was hanging out with Drake after
Brownie had his medical incident. So yeah, just an interesting timeline.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Yeah, that's that's that, you know. I mean, I don't
know what to say.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Well, I would say this, and you know, the summary
statement to it. For me, though, is watching the video
from that Kendrick Lamar concert and everything and all the
clips throughout the night, folks on stage and all one.
I was wondering what the net worth of everybody was there,
because that was an impressive collection of people. But the
bigger thing, Ryan is it's something I preach a lot.
People have heard this. If you in my sermon from

(01:11:46):
the Mount here on Sunday mornings. For a long long time.
Live music saves your soul. And it's the one thing
that you know, that's why we love sports and we
love music is that you know it'll bring people together.
Doesn't mean that you're not necessarily warring with other people
in genre or whatever else. I'm talking about just the
togetherness of the twenty thousand people there. So that's all.

(01:12:09):
That's what I take from it. The positivity, the unity,
et cetera. All the other stuff with Drake, well, you
know that's for other folks to chop up another time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
You're unbelievable, man, You're unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Come on, I made that positivity right there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
I love it. The Bluds and the crips got along
that night, So that's what That's what's important. So people
did come together.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Hey man, When people can come together in any way,
shape or form for a few hours in this society anymore,
I'm going to celebrate the hell out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Ryan, Well, it is in the West Coast. Just need
a little beef to rally together. And you know, Kidsrick
song is so popular. You got I've seen a kid
you not Mike. I've seen it in old people's homes.
I've seen children wrapping it at elementaries. I mean, it is,

(01:13:06):
it is. It's a lot. It's a lot, and I
hope everything stays in the spirit of art exactly fun
and you know there's some resolve at some point one
but in context, those two have been taking shots at
each other for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Oh absolutely, And then Wednesday was something something else, no
question about it. He's Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins.
I'm over at Swollen Dome. Coming up next, we turn
our attention to Major League Baseball. No, no, no, we've
already talked about the pitch clock. No, We've got something
else because it's just a general etiquette and enjoyment kind

(01:13:46):
of talk, and it's all about positivity on a Sunday morning,
He's Ryan, I'm Mike. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Little
Gary Clark Jr. I think I identified that right, Ryan Hollins.
What do I get?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Ah? You get uh? You gentlemen's smoothing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I thank you Gene Wilder for chiming in Fox Sports
Radios Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins having
some fun with you next hour, We've got Austin Reeves
on his new coach, we got Caruso for Giddy, and
so much more as we roll through another hour here

(01:14:27):
on a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday with our crew, Iowa say,
I'm in this morning alongside our guy Ian, our executive producer,
and of course Isaac Loewenkron on the update. This one
was kind of funny to me, Ryan, because it's a
long held tenant that I have in the wonderful world
of sports. And if you go sit in the bleachers

(01:14:50):
at Wrigley Field, well there's always the push. Should you
catch a home run ball to where you were yelled
at and cajoled, well, throw it back the Mets announcers.
After Francisco Alvarez hits a solo home run that's we're
down six nothing, but goes to left center field. You know,

(01:15:13):
the guy fires, gets fired up, and the Mets announcers
fired back for the fan.

Speaker 9 (01:15:21):
Flyball deep left field looking up as Pete Crow Armstrong
and Francisco Alvarez for the second straight day with a
solo home run and the Mets are on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Wow, they made him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
That is you know what that is too?

Speaker 9 (01:15:40):
Much peer pressure, grow a spine man obviously not a leader.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
So he throws it back onto the field because you know,
you have to return. As they call it, the trash
of an opposing player. Dude, unless you're that guy that
makes his life's effort to go in and steal home
run balls from children and people running section to section
and showing up at every event, like how often are

(01:16:07):
you going to catch.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
A home run?

Speaker 10 (01:16:08):
No, your squad all this stuff, like, I'm not throwing
that thing back, Like I agree with Ron Darling gross buying.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Yeah, so the players are making or the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
The fans get after you, not the players. Players are
you know, hoping you just because well the players are
hoping you don't because if it comes back on the field,
if you don't have a good arm or good aim,
you know, you might have you know, some incoming on
you there. We've seen that before.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
You're just jealous, That's that's what's going on. But it's okay,
So it enlightened me. Is this a tradition that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
So it's a long standing tradition. Again, it's the like, well,
it's trash. You know, you don't you don't want the
home run ball from the opponent, dismissiveness whatever, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Let me say this. If you're gonna keep that tradition out,
which is a good tradition, I get it, you gotta
compensate in some way and say, oh no, we're gonna
let you meet the players. We're gonna bring you back, say,
and we'll give you one of our balls.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
But a team thing. If you're gonna you gotta give it,
but the team's not giving taking it from you. Yeah,
you're giving it back like a dope willingly because some
drunk jackass next to you says you're gonna throw that back.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Man, what I'm saying is stand up to them. I
get it. You don't want the other team's balls, so
you got to take the home team's balls, and the
home team it's a it's a pretty cool tradition to say, Hey,
we don't condone so you know, I think in fairness,
they got to give the you know, the ball back,

(01:17:47):
you know, or do something, because then fans won't feel
like what we're debating of why would you give that back?
It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
You start going to the left fielder or center right,
it's like, hey, buddy, I'm gonna do this now. Can
I get that back? Lead? Can we hemp this up?
It's got a funny a tradition that I've just never understood,
you know, participating in and acquiescing something.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
I can tell what you're doing. If you you catch
a ball, I'm giving that ball back.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
They're so rare, the opportunity to catch and not potentially
get elbowed in the face. I mean a lot of
times you're scrapping for for a baseball that comes into
the stage, particularly if you're in the bleachers of a
Wrigley field, right, it's something if the guy's got to
get out of his actual seat, you know. Sometimes now
you get a little bit of help there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Do you agree with me now that it would be
fair if hey throw back the trash right and we'll
do something nice. We'll get you something special of equal value,
and you'll feel more comfortable, you know, keeping the tradition
up because I'm with it. Hey, man, forget the other team.
We don't we don't celebrate.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
That, right, but I'm keeping it. It's a prize for
me paying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Is if you had a chance to get something of
equal that should the team put up something of equal value,
so the fans feel more like, hey, let's you know,
we're going to keep this tradition going.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yeah, I suppose you know there could be something to it. Again,
I go back just to grow the spine thing. Nobody's
forcing you to do this unless you're being threatened, which
might be the case too. Hey do you don't throw
that ball back?

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
You know how we do it here? Oh wait, I
don't remember ever on the back of my ticket. I
know I can be photographed. I know I've got to
you know, leave balls and play and not, you know,
interfere in the game. I don't remember anything. If it's saying, hey,
here's the caveat if you catch an opponent's home run,
you have to throw it back. You can all beat it.

(01:19:50):
For By the way, in your analysis, I believe you
gave us a drop or a promo. Perhaps he's Ryan Hollins.
I'm Mike Harmon. Coming up next, shurt our attention back
to the Lakers hiring and one guy who's gonna be
key to their development.

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of everything he's got going on. You know, he's posted
some photos, doing some good works, broadcasting stuff. Houston Rockets
ten years in the league. Eventually, I'm gonna get you
to watch Clipped, and you and I will compare notes
and do a deep dive on it, because now we're
in the heart of the matter and you're still, you know,

(01:21:16):
blissfully ignorant of what's going on on this series.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
You like me? Are you locked in on Clipped? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Yeah? As soon as it's available, and I've got a
free moment. Bam, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
I'll tell you what's real and what was embellished. I'll
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Oh, there's gonna be plenty. I'm sure you've already we
had a couple. You haven't even had to watch a
frame of it.

Speaker 9 (01:21:35):
WHOA.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Everybody's convinced that Doc was like taking these personal family
jabs that dudes turn practice, like just completely over the line.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
No, oh, that was but the scene was so great. Well,
he was like running around like he was a great comedian,
Like I thought he was gonna whip on a microphone
and all right, I'm done with you. What are you
chuckling at over there? Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
It's still can't get over Laurence Fishburn going, I had
no idea who Doc Rivers is amazing, right, I don't
watch sports. And then he goes, yeah, I invited him
over for a barbecue.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
What Yeah, he shows up to a labor day outing
and he sat and watched him. What was it? Wynton
Marsalis was at the story. He told Dan Patrick on
the network. Yeah, he goes, I picked up his uh
cadences and his speech from listening to he and Wynton
Marsalis talk about Bill Russell just crazy. But again, like

(01:22:39):
in doing that, you know one he is an actor,
So I take it all with a grain of salt.
But ponder that, right, how old is Laurence Fishburn? Anybody
know anybody after Lawrence Fishburn? If you're listening, dial it up,
you got the hotline. Lawrence Fishburn is sixty two years old. Okay,

(01:23:00):
And look, I am readily acknowledged. I have plenty of
blind spots in this world. I don't pay a lot
of attention to political rhetoric. You know, it gets the
boiling for everybody. I know enough to be informed. But
you know, I'm not leaning into a channel and dialing
it up if you do good on you uh, you

(01:23:20):
know sports talk radio and TV. I'm not consuming a
ton of it. We talked about it with the inside
the NBA. Normally I'm in the studio getting ready for
a show, so there's there's no sound. So what Charles
and Kenny and anybody in Shack and Ernie and everybody
have to say, I'll get in clips later kind of
a best of Like it's not appointment viewing for me.

(01:23:43):
All the stuff from the Carnival Barkers, and you know
who I speak of. In our sports media world, I
don't pay attention until it's brought to my table. Music whatever.
We all have our genres of music we listen to.
You try to get outside and more all encompassing as
you can, et cetera. But to go and be sixty

(01:24:05):
two years old in the entertainment field and we know
how the you are inextricably linked, right, entertainment and sports.
To not know who Doc Rivers was a man who's
been involved in a lot of stuff. I mean he's
been at the you know what, we had a front

(01:24:26):
row seat to a lot of big things that Lawrence
Fishburn didn't know who he was.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
I kind of aspired to that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
How about to this too? How about to this too?
Doc Rivers is probably the most emulated voice, right, and
I'm a coach. Right, everybody does that, you know at
some point someone's you know, tried it or whatever. You know,

(01:24:54):
So it was double. It was double because everybody has
a Doc impression.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Like everybody know, it's not flex fault, it's not plex fault.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
That's what all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Jamie Fox with that one Smith does one he tries
on our show seven to eleven Pacific Jason Smith and
I hear on the network Monday through Friday. But you know,
everybody's had that impressions, Like nobody ran one of those
in all these years. I mean Doc won the title
in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Man, well, he.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Says he doubled it. He said. It's not just he
said he's not a sports fan. No.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
I get that that is hard, but it still seems
like some of the men we don't soak into your
brain somehow, right, conversations around you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
You don't watch TV, you don't have social media, you
don't you know, he's he's People are like, he really
isn't a patrix.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Yeah, that is my five year plan. You know though,
oh god, stop it, dude, and disappear.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
But having a harmy no idea, no hello, oh yes,
I thought that was funny as hell. So, like I've
been entertained by it. The some very serious things, uh,
and the discussions and certainly beyond the Clippers, going back
to housing policies, procedures, et cetera. Uh, you know, there's

(01:26:18):
some other other stuff to to do, some history reading,
and that's you know, we always encourage folks go back
and and find the books, find find the the articles,
the history as you can, like Rick Wood as well,
you know, the the game they played this this past
week celebrated on Fox. Or you're gonna say, Ryan, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
I will ask one thing, hit me? Does anyone do
I say anything? Have I said anything on the show yet?

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Well we've been talking for two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Yeah, no, dude, to talk about clip No.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
No, no, not about clip No.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
No. I haven't said it anything yet. So I'm just
there looking.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Your guy hasn't I don't
think he's had a line.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Oh god, he's there getting a little more airtime though.
Or is it a hit and miss?

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Well it's hit miss because I mean, you got some
good basketball scenes, but let's face it, it's it's more about
the legal wranglings and the Stiviano and and and all
that background. So this last last episode did a lot
of the history lessons, you know for Doc Rivers and uh,
going going back to the riots in l A and

(01:27:37):
and everything and discussing that point, Stiviano's origin story before
meeting Donald Sterling, all of that. We we got some
some of that this last time. So not. The players
weren't in as much this one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like everybody wants the player. The
player scenes, the practice scenes are the money.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Well, the practice scene was just fantastic. I mean he
was playing dozens with guys. I mean as really was
what are you smiling at over there? And his best
doc So yeah, no, the practice stuff, the game in
game stuff, you know, a lot of laughs at the
casting and representations and like anything, You're not gonna find

(01:28:19):
the carbon copy for a Ryan Owens or Steph Curry
or a Clay Thompson, but some of them have left
the Internet in stitches. There's no question about it. Now,
if we make a TV show or a documentary about
the next iteration of Lakers basketball, it seems like, at
least for the moment I'll talk of, hey, this is

(01:28:42):
one of your tradeable assets, it dies down a little bit.
Austin Reeves was asked about the arrival of JJ Reddick
as his new coach, and he had some glowing things
to say about JJ Reddick as we go go into
this next iteration of Lakers ball.

Speaker 11 (01:29:02):
Yeah, I've gotten to know Jaja a little bit, you know,
going on this podcast during the middle of the year.
Is a basketball genius, I think, as everybody knows, and
I think he's gonna make a good coach and I
can't wait to get to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Work with him.

Speaker 11 (01:29:15):
He actually text me yesterday I wanted to get on
a call, so, like I said, I just can't wait to,
you know, put our brains together and you know go,
you know, have a good year.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Basketball genius there, Ryan Hollins.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
That's pretty strong. Basketball genius is strong.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
That was the I really anticipate a much larger role
for me in this next season.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
I like it. Me look at you man, man.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
I got to read into it because a little bit
of it sing song, but that's kind of Austin Reeves cadence.
But just you know, you call the guy a genius,
not only are you buttering him up, but you're also
whatever those conversations were color me intrigued as to what
the direction of the offense may become.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
And I do want to say this to be clear,
I think some of the the Clearly, it was a
good move because it worked out, but I think some
of the frustration. If I'm gonna be fair, and I
like Jjjj's my guy, former teammate, that's my dude.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
But I guess it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Was the the questions of the way things were run
and they don't need to be a secret. But on
the podcast, so you know, hey, you guys didn't do this.
You didn't do that, you know, and if that's something
that you appeal to be a part of, that's what
didn't look necessary. I think that's what frustrated you know,

(01:30:47):
people in that It wasn't just having the part he
was going, well, hey, also, you guys don't do this,
you didn't do that. Well, we could do this different
or that different, you know, that's what you know, It
seemed unnecessarily like, hey, you know you could have That's
the problem in the job that I think that I
see in the frustration that you know people see. If
I'm Darvin Ham looking, you know, hey, you didn't cut

(01:31:09):
the question the way you know I ran things. You
could have just you know, did your own interview you know, no.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Sure, And that's I guess to take that part of it, right,
Darvin Ham. The timing of it has been called out
in questioned a bunch and look is the time. It's
like anything in life, I mean, is the timing ever
write right? Anything? You hope it is right. Hey, we're
gonna have a kid, all right. Do we have stability

(01:31:36):
in this that the other? I don't know. While buy
a house again, do we have stability and this that
the other? I mean, you can always argue yourself out
of some of these large decisions, likewise, you know, starting
business ventures, partnerships, whatever, all of those are. Well, it's
a hot button topic. Let's go. And in this case,
you know, for many it was you know, surmised that

(01:31:57):
you know that Jane and Reddick had a long standing relationship.
We've talked to folks Dan Woiki of the La Times
and others that you know, they knew each other, but
did they really you know, know each other kind of
thing except for doing this this podcast run basketball x's
and o's and IQ and you know, did it put
Darvin Ham in a bad light? Is one of the

(01:32:19):
questions that comes back out of it. I would hope
to hell that it's survived, because I think that would
be a fun little you know, hard knocks from a
much different kind of decision making. Poet and JJ Redick
and Lebron James will still doing this all right. We
went out of three three game losing skid. This week, Lebron,
let's talk about it. Come on, let me in the
doors of that one.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
We just never seen it ever from a coach. Yeah,
that's great, Like we've never seen it from a coach,
and I think that that's the big difference, like a
coach being a part of it, that that is different. Yeah,
it's different. Well you know what, hey, hey, right, sorry,
go ahead from You're right from our standpoint, Oh, that's gold.
That would be gold.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
No, absolutely, Like you know, let's basically do film review
for a nationwide audience of what went right? What went wrong?
I mean, that's one that would actually be appointment viewing
for me, as opposed to the soporadic five minute listen
now and again based on what someone clipped off that
they thought was the interesting bits, as it were. But
as a guy that's been around the league as long

(01:33:22):
as you have, Ryan, I mean, what does this hiring mean.
Is there a bit of a celebration amongst ex players
because I know from the long standing coach tree kind
of thing, there's been a lot of handwringing.

Speaker 12 (01:33:34):
I think JJ, it's just that the Duke Blue Devil
kind of entitlement mindset that people are.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Gonna kind of JJ. You know, like like JJ is hardworking,
he's a grinder. He's got universal respect in every locker
room he's been in, and if you don't know him,
you don't know that. But from the outside, he's this
you know, Duke Blue devil, golden boy that everybody's cheered
against the losing. When he was in college, everybody hacked

(01:34:05):
him up because he averaged twenty eight points a game
and said he'd never be anything in the NBA, and
he ended up being really darned good. Now, he clearly
wasn't the star of the league, but as far as
a role player, a guy who did his job, JJ's
hit huge shots. He's always been ready, he's improved. Man,
he's a pro. So, you know, he's as certified as
they come from that standpoint. Has he won a championship, No,

(01:34:28):
he didn't, but he's definitely No, he's not as qualified
as some Hall of Famer that might step in. A
lot of times, hall of famers aren't good head coaches.
It's the role players that are good. So he's kind
of prepped in that standpoint. And he's not a guy
who had never played the game before, you know, but
the biggest thing is someone that Lebron is going to respect,

(01:34:49):
you know, and I think JJ is going to be that.
But I get the understanding where the eyebrowns raised and
I will say, hey, for me if I'm dark and
have them going, dude, you didn't need to do that,
you know, you didn't need to kind of raise questions
the way we did things that did things my way
and you can do things your way, you know, and

(01:35:10):
you know, hey, I don't even know if maybe when
the podcast started, we assume JJ this whole time had
an idea of being the coach, but maybe they got
to talk and he's like, look, this is something that
I want to do. But maybe that wasn't his intent.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Who knows no, And that's certainly part of the question.
Right he had talked to a couple of teams, reportedly
Right Toronto being one of them in the past, so
we know it was at least on the radar as
an ambition, and then you fast forward it and part
of it, I think just still comes down to the
Laker brand and what it means, like even if it's

(01:35:42):
been a diminished product many of the years, like they're
still relevant because you're talking about them it's like the Cowboys.
People get mad. It's like, if it didn't move the
needle one way or another, people positively or negatively, we
wouldn't talk about it. That's just the way this medium
works for the Lakers, Like if he'd been hired, Like
if he be Manti Williams gets fired and he becomes

(01:36:04):
the next Pistons coach, does anybody bad an eye?

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
I think so when from the media, well, here's the
thing that I will maybe if I'm if I'm gonna
be fair. Steve Kerr, you know, was calling games, you know,
and JJ was you know, hey on first take, you know,
and then podcasting, So maybe it's different, but it's it's
a completely different era right now that we see. And

(01:36:31):
again JJ always has the entitled crown because he's a
Duke Blue devil, and people felt like everything was handed
to them and their teams were good, and it seemed like,
you know, they just kind of had that you know,
the whistle of the referee in the hometown crowd and
you know, they you know, it's what it was going.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
That's a lot of latent hate that guy's been going
from them. And Duke's not Duke anymore either, the same
hatred level. Uh. And for Steve Kerr, I would I
would defend him down, not only because he hit big
shots for my beloved Bolts, but he did hang around
Jackson and Popovich for a very long time. That's got
to count for something, being in those rooms with those
guys for years. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm buy garment here.

(01:37:13):
Fox Sports Radio is Fox Sports Sunday coming up next.
We did have a trade involving the aforemenngined bulls. I
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(01:37:33):
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(01:37:54):
go in evangelize friends, family. I mean, we're building a
universe here globally, Ryan Hollins. This next week, I'll travel
internationally and I'll have a picture of you on a shirt.
I'll make sure it's you and not your friend from clipped.
You get proper representation globally.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
And I'll make sure you get a drop on the network.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
I appreciate that, Hollins, Harmon.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
We'll get a drop and we'll like, we'll have cool
stuff that we say that will, you know, be played
over and over again. Now I have no power, absolutely
at all to control that, you know, But I'm selling
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
I do get in there and sell, sell, sell, that's
what it's all about. I'll probably smoke some meat and
got that too. There are there are a lot of
random one off quotes for me. Yeah what else you got,
Sam in the Harmon soundboard.

Speaker 8 (01:38:45):
The rest is probably not appropriate for Sunday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Oh gosh, wow, that's I don't think I've ever said
anything quite that offensive.

Speaker 8 (01:38:53):
But don't go there, you never know, don't make me
go there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Uh yeah sounds nice stuff. I don't even know what
he's talking about, but yeah, I don't know, But you
know what you do a lot of radio, You say
a lot of things. I'd hugue, but you're not wearing pants.
Well there's that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:10):
That's you know, Jason, that one's still kind of PG.
But we don't want to go any for that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
No, that's beautiful. Again. I'll have to go figure out
what the hell is in the soundboard a little bit later. Hey,
we had a trade in the NBA. We're expecting a
very busy couple of weeks here, Ryan, as we get
towards free agency and the next calendar year in the league,
you'll have the opt outs. One. That's kind of curious
here in LA. We'll get your thoughts on that in
a minute. But I think Dre that went down. Alex

(01:39:37):
Cruso goes to the Oklahoma City Thunder nine to one
on your odds board for the NBA title. Josh Giddy,
twenty one years old, has embroiled in some off the
court kind of discussion, and we'll push that to the
side here for the moment. Talk about it as the
basketball trade that it is. Twenty one years old, good passer,

(01:40:02):
six ' nine guard Caruso, glue guy, one of those favorites.
There was some whispers a while back, hey, maybe he
goes back to the Lakers. A lot of suitors, a
lot of trade offers in for Carusa that were out there,
maybe multiple draft picks and a player instead. It's a
straight up deal Cruso to oka See. And I just

(01:40:25):
have to ask this, Ryan as a handed off to
you for the and Lovitia for the giant analysis. Okay
See has some multiple dozen picks here in the next
few drafts. How do the Bulls not at least secure
one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Well, you know, without Lonzo Ball being able to play,
they've been looking for a big guard to get easy opportunities.
So this was a plug and play trade. And the
thing is, people were not guarding Giddy in the playoffs.
It was kind of hard to keep them on the floor.
The core. He's the only one that still kind of,

(01:41:03):
you know, really struggles to shoot the basketball. So it
really ended up being a fit. And I think they
wanted when they traded for Gordon Hayward. It's kind of
what they wanted. And I think they're saying, hey, we're
gonna run this back and we'll see if this Caruso trade,
you know, makes sense. And you know, Chicago's going. Giddy's young,

(01:41:25):
he's still he's not even remotely close to you know,
how how good he's going to be. So I think
it ends up working on both sides. And you know,
they really wanted the youth of Geiney. There's a lot
of value still there. He's a big guard, he can
guard multiple positions, and they got enough shooting. They need

(01:41:45):
to guy to you know, move the ball around.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Yeah. Sam Presty talked about the move, just saying, hey,
you know, in terms of roles for next year, playing time, minutes,
shots and role that, you know, they couldn't promise Giddy
that next step. You mentioned Lonzo Ball and remember when
he opted into his contract. A lot of concentrations. That's
why they you negotiated this, okay, the fact that he

(01:42:10):
hasn't played for a couple of years. You'd signed a
deal whereby he was able to opt in for twenty
one million dollars. Congratulations to Lonzo Ball. That's the union
doing some good work. Like normally I'm the first guy
to you know, start pointing fingers and asking questions about
some of the nose negotiations. But for the players, uh,
there's a win. It's more so just from the Caruso side,

(01:42:32):
I guess when we look at it, Ryan's like thirty
years old, back to back all defensive team, one, first team,
one second team, career high ten points. That's fine again
owing to some of the the injuries that the Bulls had,
and let's face it that that team was a mess
this year. But you look at it as as a
guy who seemed to be pretty coveted out there, right,

(01:42:55):
So even with the upside of Giddy, you know, wondering
if this was actually the best move they could make. Well,
you know what for a guy who's not not ready
and look, you're nowhere near a contender, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Yeah, Well for Chicago, you gotta understand they need to
lean more towards the future. I don't think they have
a team that's necessarily going to win now Caruso. So yeah,
Caruso was highly, highly sought after, But I think the
youth of Giddy and his size really intrigues front offices,
you know. And then you know, again with the stuff

(01:43:32):
he went through, you know, probably just hey, a guy,
this guy with a fresh start. They believe there's even
you know, better things to come from him, you know,
And I don't know that details are any any of
that not our business, you know, But I think that
that's how they're saying it, that this is a mega
asset that they have. But you're right, every you see,
but again, every team wanted Caruso, but when it probably

(01:43:53):
came down to a first round pick or you're another
certain player, they maybe weren't going to pull that trigger. So, no,
you weren't getting Caruso for free. Obviously the Lakers wanting
him back, and they're probably going, we're not gonna swap
any of those role players you have because he's he
brings more to the table than they do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Yeah, the giddy side of it, you know, because I
saw a lot written about, hey, you know, Caruso's gonna
want this as a contract, and some of the estimates
for for eighty or whatever the case may be, it's like,
well the ghinea well, but giddy at twenty one, Like
he's already in the league three years and there's still
a lot of unknowns to his game and he's gonna
be up for a new deal here in short order.

(01:44:29):
So questioning how quickly you'll be able to find out
what exactly you have, I guess in terms of this
because DeRozan's gonna be gone. He was part of the
celebration we talked about last hour on the stage. And
then you've got Zach Levine, who is, if you're to
believe the reports, has been shopped to every other team

(01:44:50):
in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Yeah, so that yeh, they got to make it work
with what they have. So again they said, we got
a young asset for an older guy who's had some
injury issues. We're all over it. And okay, see saying, man,
we got enough youth, we got guys playing, we got
to get older, you know, we want to win now.
Kind of they're good. They're there. They didn't plan we'll

(01:45:16):
be there. They've ended up being so good they got
to get in a win now, you know scenario. And
again that's what you're seeing with what Caruso brings to
the table. So I do I think it's a genuine
trade that you know, this one works for both hides.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Yeah, as we look at it going forward, I mean,
and with all the assets that they have in terms
of trade chips, Uh, pretty active week, I would think
coming ahead here for okay, see, we'll see what Sam
Prest he's able to pull off as we go, we
be're amiss if we didn't spend a minute talking about
the game. A little bit later on, you've got Indiana
and Chicago meeting up in the w NBA. It's become

(01:45:54):
must watch TV, no question. Seems like uh, Sunday Marque games.
It's like The Red Side and Yankees. Is it on
ESPN or Fox this week? No, it's both. So the
WNBA once again, and we keep seeing Caitlin Clark in
these bigger venues where they go from thirty four one

(01:46:15):
hundred seats or four thousand seat spots to seventeen thousand
and a full sellout. And there's another opportunity. She was
at the microphone and goes, surprise, we're not actually playing
at the United Center. Evidently there was a concert schedule
and was by someone I'd never heard of.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
Again, it goes back to the Lawrence Fishburn blind spots
in your in your collective thinking, right, you may not
follow sports, so you don't have that in your purview.
This was one where I saw the name and I'm
gonna try to bring it up here real quick to
where I just kind of went, huh, never heard of them.

(01:46:56):
His name is russ Any idea.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
No, I've never heard of Russ. Only Russ I know
is Westbrook.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Yeah, No, a guy named Russ evidently had the United Center.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Well those are pre done, and sure Russ is paid
for it enough and advanced that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Oh no, I'm not him. It sounds like you're blaming Russ. Well,
I mean, well, but that, but that's the question. This
guy's selling out the United Center. Normally, I at least
would have heard of him. So I'm not gonna say
I would have like been on my radar as a
you know, a guy that's deep in my playlist, you know,

(01:47:34):
top five. It's like here's the Afghan Whigs, followed by
Mark Lannagan, followed by Russ. I'm just saying I think
I would have heard his name. If he's to the
point where he's selling out the UC, That's all I
was saying. But for Caitlin Clark, she's putting pressure on
the w NBA. It's like, hey, let's keep working ahead.
Now we we have proven, we have proof of concept.

(01:47:56):
Going back to what we were talking about a little
bit earlier. You know, when we talk about coaches, we
talk about different policies and procedure to think we have
proof of concept that this works. Get us in the
bigger buildings and we will sell them out.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Right, well again, you know, and then unfortunately, you know,
Russ gets you know, caught in the side swipe because
she just said, well, I don't know their schedule, so
I don't know, you know, how if that could work.
So he became part of the article because that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
Russ definitely took astray from you just right there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
No, no, no, hey, like he may be brilliant. I may
listen to him on the way home.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Yeah, poor Russ. I mean, yeah, he definitely took astray.
That was astray.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Wow he did, I mean he did.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
I mean, you're listen you. I don't think he was malicious.
But if I'm Russ, I go wow. That Hartman guy,
I go wow.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
I got mentioned on national sports talk radio and nobody
knew who the hell I was good for me.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
You know, Russ is like I saw out the United Center.
Let's see, let's see if if anybody else matches that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Yeah, he's actually on something. I would go and see
it was quote it was you all along tour. I'm in.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Yeah, the U probably is pretty pretty hot.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Dude, Yeah, I could get on board. But either way,
that's the reason they're not at the United Center this
time around. I mean, no disrespect. It's like anything, everybody's
got their audience, right. A lot of what we've been
talking about in the w n B a is, you know,
people take their sides and get mad and Angel Reeves saying, hey,
you know there's we're here and we're playing. It's like, yeah,

(01:49:37):
Angel Reeves has her fans, Caitlin Clark has her fans.
W NBA gaining a lot of fans.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Are you a big Angel rees fan?

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
I like her. I like that she'll lean into the
villain and you know me, I like the post post players.
No question about it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Is she the edgiest w NBA player or I guess
maybe me. I'm sure there's definitely edgier No.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
And that that's the thing, right, It's it's all about
what gets covered mainstream because she's been set up real
or imagined as the you know, a host of villains
from the Batman world to Batman where Caitlin Clark is right,
I mean that's how it's been positioned, and you either
lean in or don't. And it seems like she's leaned

(01:50:19):
into it enough to keep it going. I mean, you
recognize what's good for brand, for building your efforts outside
of the court, because I mean, she's a double double.
I mean, she's not gonna, you know, really change her
game and you know, starts extending shooting whatever, she's gonna
work in and around the basket. But she's entertaining as hell.

(01:50:42):
Like that squad's pretty entertaining. Not particularly good right now,
but they've got some players there. So Yeah, for Angel Reese,
you know, it's all part of the curve. And I
think for everybody, it's finding out what that new norm
is in terms of coverage and what it's like to be.
And she already had it in college to a degree,
but you know what that spotlight is every time you

(01:51:03):
take the court, particularly in these types of matchups, everybody's
looking for what might just be a good, hard nosed
basketball play and trying to infer something else on it.
Why because it's good for ratings?

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Is it good for the league?

Speaker 8 (01:51:16):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Long well? Short term? Yeah? Long term, I don't know
how much juice you can squeeze from it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
Long term, yeah, I mean, I listen, I hate to
say it, but I mean it is. Controversy is always good. Yeah,
you know, the popularity. You know, you can't have a
hero without a villain. And I hate that she's referred
to as a villain at this point, but you know,
I think it's you know, part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Well, it's right, it's which side you're coming at it from. Cause,
in a lot of fans' minds, Caitlin Clark's the villain.
How about that, he's Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Harmon. This
is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. I just blew
your mind. Let's get it to Isaac glowing crowd who
promised the hat trick. So here we go. Update from

(01:52:06):
the news desk with our guy, I Hilo.

Speaker 6 (01:52:08):
I'll probably let everybody down as always, but actually, guys,
it's already been a really busy morning in Major League Baseball.
The New York Yankees today placed John Carlos Stanton on
the ten day injured list with a strained left hamstring.
Major League Baseball this morning has suspended Toronto Blue Jays
in theater Orelvis Martinez eighty games for violating the ped policy. Martinez,

(01:52:30):
a highly touted prospect who made his major league debut.
Just this past Friday, Martinez issued a statement through the
Players Association, reading quote, for the past two years, I've
been trying to start a family with my girlfriend. We
were prescribed a treatment which included a medication that unfortunately
contains a banned substance called klamaphine. I take full responsibility

(01:52:53):
for my actions and accept my suspension unquote. Today's action
already underway. Phillies and Diamondbacks are scoreless at the top
of the first inning on Saturday night, and the Dodgers
seven to win over the Angels. Show Hey Otani homered
for a third straight game. He now has twenty three
home runs to lead the National League. On the mound,

(01:53:14):
Dodgers pitcher Tyler glass Now got the win. In seven innings.
He struck out ten with no walks. Here's what glass
Now had to say about his excellent performance.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
We've got one hope.

Speaker 8 (01:53:25):
All America's industrial minded, scientific innovation connected here in secret laboratory.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Keep everyone there until its dome up.

Speaker 6 (01:53:33):
Sorry, guys, I pressed the press the wrong button again.
Those buttons were right next to each other. Let's try
that again.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
I spent the last few You've been feeling good.

Speaker 9 (01:53:42):
I think the curve ball helped me out a lot tonight,
just being able to drop it in for strikes and
then bounce it later.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
But every inning tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Felt a lot sharper.

Speaker 6 (01:53:50):
I guess yeah again. I like the first one better
because it adds its own soundtrack, among other things. Back
to you, Mike and Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
I fully anticipated with all the hero, villain and batman
talk that you are gonna pull a doctor Jonathan Crane
clip from Killy and Murphy from the Dark Knight series
Rats Bad job by you Pad Isaac Lowincron where you
find him in the Twitter verse. Thanks Ilo as always,
Ian and Sam making us sound so pretty. Coming up next,
we take a turn into NFL locker rooms and see

(01:54:18):
if we can't apply it to the NBA, and maybe
we get some story time with Ryan Holland what's it
all about? I'll tell you next here on Fox Welcome
back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday by Carmen,
Ryan Hollins with you as we wrap things up shortly
after the show ten minutes or so, our guy Ian
Roddy's gonna put the podcast up. If you miss Daddy

(01:54:39):
off today's show, be sure to check it out search
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on Twitter at the Ryan Holland find me over at

(01:55:00):
Swollen Dome. As we finish things up in the Tire
Act dot Com. Fox Sports Radio Studios. We've got Dan
Byer and Carry Rhodes waiting in the take over ten
minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. Ran I
thought I'd bring this one up. It was a pretty
good little run. Julian Edelman doing one of his spots
with Colin Cowhard for the network talking about Aaron Rodgers

(01:55:21):
and missing the mandatory part of mini camps. Much has
been spoken about it, you know, outside looking in and
trying to, you know, glean some insights of how this
goes over and what it means overall. Robert Sala, you know,
admitting that he was not excused from the mini camp.

(01:55:42):
You got Reddick Off in Japan as well, So they've
got two big stars on both sides of the ball
that are away. But I thought Edelman's quote, we could
maybe apply it to the NBA. See what this situation
would would yield in a locker room like yours. Basically said,
you know, if your your veterans in the locker room,
you know, it's it's the idea that if you start

(01:56:03):
out strong and they're three and one and four and oh,
that it's not gonna matter. But if you start out
you know, one in three the team struggling, there's gonna
be a lot of finger pointing, et cetera. That in
the moment, yeah, you might bristle a bit because you're
there working out in the ninety degree heat, but it
gets exacerbated, you know, if you get off and you're

(01:56:26):
off to a slow start and Rogers and his timing
with the receivers is off to some degree. NBA locker room,
I mean, I don't know. I mean we obviously had
all the Kyrie stuff when he would take a day
off or whatever, and the whole load management thing, you know,
rub folks the wrong way. I got to imagine in
the locker room, guys, you know, grinding out and they

(01:56:48):
recognize it. Right, it's it may not like it, but
it's for the betterment it's the long term of the squad.
But you know, for for Rogers missing that one, you know,
how does it you as a guy who was going
through the grind in the NBA all those years.

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
I'll say this, You know, you take the lead of
your best player. So when your best player is there,
you know, it makes everybody you know, they're they're gonna
follow what's happening. So for him to be missing, it's
not the end of the world. It's something Aaron Rodgers

(01:57:26):
is always done. For a guy that was missing time
that you really want to give the reins to that
missed that all the you know, the hype was around.
You'd like him. You'd like to get a return on
the investment, and you want to go into the season
feeling like, you know, it starts there, it's there. So
him missing it is a thing. And the teams that

(01:57:50):
I was on that kind of you know, did best.
You know, a lot of that work started early or
early on. But those super super vets have their own
rooms teen So it's not the end of the world.
But for Aaron Rodgers in a brand new situation, it
may have been better to break one of his routines.
But again, it is not the end of the world.

(01:58:10):
And for a guy who was missing, guy who wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Yeah, we get into a lot of the special rules
for special players. Right, And in any business, everybody out
there can relate to it. Right. You might have the
star sales person in your office. Maybe they show up
a half hour late, but if their numbers are consistently
better than yours, bosses are going to look the other way, right,
and brilliant in whatever that field is. So, but for

(01:58:36):
Aaron Rodgers, for a guy that was talking about keeping
all distractions out of the locker room, sure as hell
didn't help things.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
Yeah. Well, it's kind of like me and you. You know,
for a long time at work, you know, I was
not allowed to have a key fob, you know, so
I'd have to call people to get led into the building.
And you know, you always had a fob.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
I have had a fob. I don't have much of
this world, but I have a fog. He's Ryan. I'm
we'll talk back in next time. See

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