Steve Hartman and Kerry Rhodes talk Colorado & NFL Season Totals!

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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This Sunday today is the calm before the storm, because
next Sunday we're going to be in full fledge NFL mode,
as the NFL season will get started on Thursday with
the Chiefs taking on the Detroit Lions. It has been
a full college football weekend carry and we got a

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lot to catch up on in what we have seen
in Week one of the college football season. But before
we do all that, just your sense right now and
give us a little sneak peek.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
As a former star.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
By the way, everyone here is still marveling at your
Madden's score. Like I mean, it's it's a little unfortunate
when people say, see, I didn't know Carrie was like
ninety five ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I was almost part of the ninety nine club, and
I thought I should be in the ninety nine club obviously, right,
But yeah, it was pretty pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
High for I mean, suddenly you got a lot of
cash play. I got a little in this building, no
question about that. But just you know from someone obviously
you played a great career in the in the NFL.
These these days leading up to the first week of
the regular season, whether you've participated a lot in the
preseason or not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
The preseason, you.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Had training camp and everything else, give us a little
sense of the mindset of an NFL players, because when
you look at Week one, you know it's the first week.
You have seventeen games over eighteen weeks and hopefully you
extend that season into the postseason. Are you as an
excited it's an excitement. Are you just sort of sensing

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I gotta pace myself. I gotta get ready to try
to stay healthy obviously most importantly, But what what is
that mindset going into Week one?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah? Number one, no pacing. There's there's no such thing
as pacing. If you do that, you're.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, if you don't play it, people donna understand this one.
If you're not going one hundred percent on the field,
you are putting yourself in jeopardy. Oh you're because everyone
else is going to get hurt. Yeah, you're gonna get
hurt for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
And so that's the thing about preseason where you know,
as a starter, you're not gonna play a lot, and
you want to switch your mind on to you know,
getting to that killer mentality which we have to get
you know, ready for for a long season. It's hard,
number one. But if you know as a player, if
you don't play hard, you're going to get hurt. So
you just you have to kind of live with the

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results of what that is. Playing hard, You're gonna play
a basic defense. It's not gonna be anything exciting anxiety,
So just mentally you have to be prepared and be sharp, right,
but you know, getting ready for week one as that
Monday of that game week kind of rolls in. I mean,
the butterflies, the nerves, the excitement, all that exists. I
don't care how long you've played. I don't care if

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you're a twenty year guy like Tom or your rookie year.
It's your first year and so you know, the energy's going,
the buzzz in the building. It doesn't matter if you're
projected to finish last, doesn't matter if you're projected to
finished first. The energy is fresh and it's new and
you're ready to go. And I think that's the mentality
for these guys right now. They're ready to go. They're excited.

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You know, this is the time of the year that
we've worked so hard to get to and now it's
finally here. And then your attack it. Man, you just
have to go with it, and you got to go
balls to the wall and get ready to go play
some football. Well I know this.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
There are thirty two coaches in the NFL that are
going into Week one telling their teams, insisting on their
teams this is our year, the year, this is the year.
Either it's we're gonna live up to the hype, exceed
the hype, or ignore what people are saying. We will
shock the world. But everyone goes into Week one with

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the mindset instilled in them by their head coach and
coaching staff, yes, that we are the team to watch.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I mean the prime example of that right now is
a team that we all know, I think everybody in
the world knows is tanking and they put out a
clip of their head coach trying to get them excited
to play and go win football games. And that's Arizona Cardinals,
and we know that they're not gonna be beating anybody
this year. So it's it's just what it is. That's
part of the game. And obviously the guys that you

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have there, you want them to go out and play
hard for you still, even if you're not gonna win,
you need to go out and play hard and be
believe in the system and the coaching staff and what's
going on. So yeah, it's exciting, but also I think
people going to this year with a little bit of
a just unfound money, I would say, because they're expecting

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you to go out there and do your best, and
sometimes that just isn't enough. You know.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I think back a couple of years ago Lamar Jackson's
MVP year, and you remember that very first game he's
coming off, you know, where he had taken over as
a rookie late in the season from Joe Flacco. They
got to the playoffs but lost, and then you know
everyone's knocking him saying, you know, Lamar Jackson's about running
the ball. He's really not a guy what he's out
there like five touchdowns in that very first.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Game of the year.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
It was against Miami, right, and he just lit it up,
and you know his response is retort to the meet,
he was, how's that for running and quarterback? And by
the season's end, the guy's got an MVP award. So
it's amazing. Even though it's a long season, so much
can be learned in week one, yes, and really the
mindset of individual players, the mindset of a team, mindset

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of a coaching staff. You can say it's just one week,
but when there's such a build up to week one,
because once you get into the season, it's week after
week after week after week, it all just seems to
blend together. But your mindset in week one, whether you
live up to what the coach has said, maybe exceed that,
or all of a sudden it's like, wow, we're not

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that all of that can happen in week one.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Absolutely, you can go straight back to the drawing board
after week one really quickly. I mean coaches in this
league have gotten to the point and really have gotten
a depth to being able to, you know, improvise and
make new game plans and ditch the stuff that they
know isn't going to work. And I think that first
test is Week one. And again I mean not only

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are the players nervous, I mean coaching staff is nervous.
You know, the tape guys, the water boys, like everybody
around the organization's nervous and getting ready to go out
there and perform at their best. And you know, you
want to put that on tape regardless because at the
end of the day, right like, there is a team
and you have to perform as an individual, but there
are other people looking at you always and whenever you're

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on that tape and on that field, you need a
good tape.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
So all right, So the rosters are set obviously as
we get ready for week one, which will start Thursday
with the Chiefs and the Lions. Now, yesterday, as I
mentioned on the show yesterday, we here at Fox Sports Radio,
we have this master list of predictions.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Have you already entered yours? I didn't enter it yet,
but I have it in my head ready to go
today though.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Okay, well you're gonna have to commit it to paper.
Now I went out. We basically have six categories that
we put on that list. We predict our AFC champion,
NFC champion, super Bowl champion, which team is going to
be the worst team in the league, who's.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Going to be the league MVP?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
And then sort of a wild card like something that
people are not seeing or talking about that could happen
this year. Now, yesterday I went through my list. Okay,
so I'm gonna run down now. I'm not going to
ask you out of the box here because we're gonna
do a big build up on this one, Carrie. But
where I laid myself out on and by the way,
bo are our producer. I have to mention this Bo

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because I was I entered my list yesterday. One thing
I will say I and I went on a lot
about this yesterday, about the Rams being the worst team
in the NFL, and that is because the league stands
to gain a whole lot more if Caleb Williams walks

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up that USC campus into Sofi Stadium, then they do
if he's heading to Glendale, Arizona. I'm telling you right now,
the Rams will be the worst team in the league.
And I got sources inside that organization that assure me
that the Rams are worse than you even imagine, despite

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the return of a healthy Matthew Skuasite.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Do you think that comes with a new coach as well.
Do you think.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Mcvagmie No, no, no, no, no, no, no no. Sean
McVay is going to get an opportunity to re establish himself.
He's going to take one for the team and in
order to get Caleb Williams in a Rams uniform.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, on my list of teams that I'm fine with
drafting Caleb Williams, the Rams are on that list. So
if they want to do that, that's cool with me.
I'll be all okay with that.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
They're on a short list. But think again, we know this.
If again, for those that have been out to Sofi Stadium,
the huge building next to the stadium is the home
of NFL Network and the upper floors are vacant because
eventually that's where the league offices are all moving to
Los Angeles. They are desperate to try to get the

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Rams relevant. Well, one way to make the Rams relevant,
you know, bringing in Matthew Stafford for a year or two.
And by the way, the reason Matthew Stafford is still
playing he's making an excess of sixty million dollars in
salary this year, so he's not about to retire. But
you bring Caleb Williams and then you have a Justin
Herbert in the same building. This makes sense to help

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elevate the Rams and Chargers in the psyche of the
LA sports fan. In the city of Los Angeles, it's
still Dodger, it's still Lakers. In the NFL is still
far off from the distance. In fact, there are more
Raider fans still in the city of Los Angeles than
Rams fans and Chargers fans combined. So look for that.

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So I have the Rams of the worst team. But
Bo and I agree on the team that's going to
win the Super Bowl. Oh, that would be the Cincinnati Bengals.
But here's the real shot. Because he is a die
hard Eagles fan, like he lives and breathes the Eagles.
Come on, you know, yes, losing the Super Bowl to
the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
He's got the forty nine ers or something like that.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, how about the Cowboys, He's got the what Okay, now, Bo,
please explain yourself.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, I try not to be a massive homer. So
we were talking last week. The Eagles have a very
rough stretch in their schedule where they go they have
like five games against teams that are all really good
and it's very hard to go back to the super Bowl,
so I'm not going to just put the Eagles there
by default. Yeah, I don't believe in brock perty I
think that there's a much different mentality being the unquestioned

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starter of a Super Bowl team and not a guy
that's just coming in to throw the ball around like
he was last year. And also teams have film on
him now and they're gonna be able to pick up
on tendency. So I don't believe in him. And after that,
like I'm not. You couldn't pay me to say anything
nice about Sam Darnold in the NFL. I don't buy
that at all. Uh, Dallas has a really good defense

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and they're the Cowboys, so they're always going to get
the benefit of the doubt when it comes to calls
from the referees and stuff like that, so they're gonna
find the an easy path I think, to being a
good team. And like after the NFC is just so bad,
like who if it's not the Eagles, then it has
to be either the forty nine ers or the Cowboys,
And I think I believe in the Cowboys more than
I believe.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
In the forty nine Ers, So bo. Wait a minute,
So who do you have winning that NFC East? Then
the Cowboys, you do?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Now remember this, and this is another little tidbit here.
We have not had a back to back NFC East
champion since the Eagles rattle off four in a row
from two thousand and one to two thousand and four.
So since two almost twenty years, we have not had
a repeat NFC East champ. Wow, I mean, that's that's
twenty years on this right where. So anyway, he and

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I are in the court, and of course I also
picked Joe Burrow to be my league MVP.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
If you got the Bengals winning the Super Bowl, Joe
Burrow is going to do that, all right.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So we're gonna do a lot of breaking down of
what's going on in terms of the NFL as we
get ready for Week one. On the other side, though,
we're going to get back to certainly the biggest story
yesterday in college football, the shocking road victory for the
Colorado Buffalos, and how how this may have changed the
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Speaker 1 (14:07):
Here Fox Sports Sunday, we are live from the tire
rack dot com studios. So yesterday we had the unleashing
of Colorado and their upset victory on the road against
a TCU team that a year ago was playing in
the National Championship. Not competitively, of course, they got humiliated

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by Georgia in that game. I'm a huge turnover of
talent everything else, but it was it was an eye
opening game because Deon Sanders is the head coach at Colorado,
and after the game, course Dion went on and on
about you know, you know, you know, all these people
are ripping me and everything else. I think we need
a little clarification on this Colorado team and what they

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have and who they have on this team. And let's
talk with your Sanders, Dion's son, who had over five
hundred yards passing four touchdowns. And there's a lot of
people that just saw this saying wow, I mean, this
is like the best performance I've ever seen from a
guy in his first college game, and it's like, no,

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he was at Jackson State.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I want to update you.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Last year at Jackson State, in twelve games, he completed
seventy point six percent of his passes, He had forty
touchdowns and six interceptions. In fact, in his two years
at Jackson State, with a record of twenty one to three,
he had seventy touchdowns and fourteen picks. So this is

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not a freshman quarterback we're talking about. This is a
guy who obviously is well tuned into the offense that
they have, and it showed in this game. So he
was a veteran going against a TCU team that does
not have much defense, and he lit him up with
four receivers, only the second time ever in PAC twelve
history that four receivers on the same team had over

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one hundred yards receiving. But when we're talking about Sanders
the quarterback, this is a veteran quarterback and his familiarity
with their offense really showed against an inexperience and overmatch
TCU defense.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yes, Anders is somebody who's already you know, he's had
you know, games under his belt, no matter where those
games were, He's played a lot of football. He's won
and One of the things about him that a lot
of people didn't know, you know, leading into yesterday, is
how smart he is. I mean, he can be accurate,
you can make have the armstrength through all the things,
but he has total command of that offense. He knows

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exactly where to go with the ball, and you saw
that time after time yesterday he made the right play. Now,
if you make the right play as many times as
he did as a quarterback, you're gonna put yourself in
a position to succeed. And that's what he's done. And
even coming into college, before he was a college athlete,
you saw this this footage and video of him training
with the goat right Tom Brady, So I had people

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in his ear and the right training for a long time.
This guy's had to play and he's got a chance now.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
So I was was senening to the guys this morning
and they were talking about the fact that Vegas took
a bath yesterday, Like a lot of money was rolling
in on Colorado and Colorado wins that game and that
was a huge payday for them and not for Vegas.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
So Vega's very.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Smart and what they do is a lot of people
are going to jump on the hype of Bandwagon. Here
with Colorado, now not only do you have Shador Sanders
the quarterback, but he also have Travis Hunter, who as
a freshman last year, of course got a lot of
hype at Jackson State because he came in as a
five star recruit. He played both ways, and then yesterday

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he caught eleven passes for you know, averaging ten yards
of reception under nineteen yards. He also intercepted the pass. Yes,
he plays both ways, exit and so the Heisman odds.
So for shardor Sanders in one game, they went from
one hundred to one to twenty eight to one, and
for Hunter they went from eighty to one to twenty

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to one. So what they're thinking now is is a
lot of people, based on that one game, are going
to start pouring their money in on one of these
two guys to win the Heisman Trophy. Here's where you
need to slow down a little bit. So remember Colorado
won one game last year. Who know, when you win

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one game, there's a reason you are Tarra Bull. So
I'm looking at the Buffalo's schedule coming up. So they
go in, they beat TCU, they hang on. Remember TCU
guide the ball at the end of the game, came
up a little short on a first down. Lad, There's
very conceivable. It was one of those defensiless games back
and forth. So next up for Colorado, they will host

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two consecutive games. They play Nebraska and they play Colorado
State Colorado State a rival game that they play every
single year, and then after that they have back to
back at Oregon and USC at home. They also have
on the road against UCLA, they have Oregon State, they
have at Utah to finish up the season.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I'll put it this.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Way, the likelihood of Colorado winning more than half their
games to me is remote. Again, if this team goes
from one to eleven to six and six, or maybe
even seven and five, Deon Sanders is in the conversation

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for Coach of the Year. Yes, this team is not
going to go ten and two. Nope, they're not going
to go nine to three, which automatically eliminates any Colorado
player from winning the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Trophy exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
So they're hoping that people are thinking, wow, Colorado, these
guys are I mean shirdor Sanders is going to you know,
rewrite the record books.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
He's not he's going to put it up some big
numbers this year. They're going to be a vastly improved team.
Dion Sanders is going to prove to everyone already he
proved it at Jackson State, but he's going to prove
it at this level that he is an elite coach
and he's going to get more and more recruits. I
think the biggest thing about the game yesterday is to

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spotlight this Colorado program under Dion Sanders and get big
time recruits to consider Colorado. But don't be putting any
money hunt Hunter or Sanders to win the Heisman Trophy.
I'm telling you right now, Colorado at the most this
year is going to be a seven and five team, which,
again based on a one win season a year ago,

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is going to be a vast improvement.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I agree with you one hundred percent on all of
everything you just said there. I do think that I
think the ceiling is eight wins. I think they can
go eight and four, seven to five. That's the same
thing you're saying. And you know, again you don't win
the Heisman with that record. So yes, it was exciting
to see it was, you know, a great brand of
football for week one. It was an exciting game and

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I can see everybody jumping on the band and seeing
and wanting the success for you know, coach Prime and
his team to do well. And I mean as you
can see yesterday, you look on X yesterday and everybody
was tweeting about that game. That game was It felt
like a national tenpiship game right for men. This game.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Let me ask you about Shrador sanders though as far
as next level, is he an next level quarterback? He is?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
He is just by his acumen of like I said,
getting the ball to the right person. If you can
get to a team like that, that's the that's the key.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Here's the one thing. He's not a running quarterback at all.
I mean you would think, wow, Dion sanders Son, He's
not that at all. But what I love about him,
and this was the same thing with Bryce Young obviously
small in stature, but his ability to constantly keep his
eyes down the field and then it's not about running
so much as moving yourself. I mean Tom Brady is

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the prime example of a guy that could buy that
extra second by just understanding the pocket, moving up in
space to find that next open receiver. And that's what
I saw was saying and yesterday was his ability to
buy a little time and then keep his eyes down
the field, look at his options and find that open guy.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
The great ones can manipulate the pocket. And that's a
word that get thrown around in the NFL a lot,
But those guys have a feel and when you talk
about the quarterback, that's the ultimate feel position. And so
when you can have a guy like Shadua who obviously
has that. You can see the way he moves around
in the pocket. He doesn't waste time. If the guy's there,
he's gonna get it to him and let him make

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a play. I mean, there's I mean, the decision making
was so clear cut with him yesterday. That was the
most impressive thing about it for me yesterday, just seeing
he saw the defense. He's gonna take what the defense
gives him, and he's not afraid to take the shot either.
And so just having that combination of cool, calm and
collectiveness as your leader, as your quarterback, I mean, you

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know you have the right guy.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Then Yeah, I'm excited about this Colorado team. I'm excited
for Dion. I love this team. Can't wait to see
what's coming up next. All right, let's find out what
is trending right now. And well, ladies and gentlemen, yesterday
on my Twitter account, yes, there were a lot of
people wondering is on Saturdays? I normally was on it
one o'clock on the West coast, four o'clock in the

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East coast.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And they were like, what happened to Hartman?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And I'm still on Saturdays, but just two hours later
to make room, to make room, You're the new superstar
duo here at Fox Sports Radio, Alex Curry and of
course our beloved Moncey Belogo. Congratulations on the new day.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
It's very exciting.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
How did it feel yesterday?

Speaker 6 (23:39):
I think it really well. Honestly, I thought we for
being our first show.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
I told you, I think that's going to be our
worst show, and it was our very first one, so
you know, I think I was very happy by the
end with how it went. Yeah, it's so great, so
easy to work with her.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I saw one tweet when somebody diss agreed with one
of your takes but also acknowledge it's nice to have
a fresh take.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
So this is what it is.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Sometimes you can say something that most people would think
is crazy. Yes, I know, well yeah, but there's always
a few people are like yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
Yeah, you're one that's like oh yeah, or just it
gets you thinking differently. Yeah, and that's what's nice about it.
So yeah, I know, super excited. Thanks guys, I'm sorry
you had to scoot over a little bit. That's okay,
you give me a couple more hour. I still got
here so early I did.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
It was here like an hour and a half before
the show, you know. I was on next and I
saw the show happening in Formanci. I was so excited me.
She's such a great person and lights of the room
which he comes in, so that half the show and
kill itngratulations, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Very exciting and we're just getting started, right. Can you
believe the season starts in four days.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I don't know what's taken so long. This bye week
before Week one is it's nuts. I mean, I love
all the college football, but I needed some NFL football
this weekend. But we'll get started on Thursday.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Thursday, Thursday, we kick everything off. Very exciting as the
Chiefs are going to face the Lions. But not everything
is going super well for the Chiefs because Chris Jones
is still on his holdout. NFL media remains that the
two remain very far apart on the deal, and today's
quote from the NFL Network from head coach Andy Reid,

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I don't know when he's coming or not coming.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Yeah, that is the latest.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Time he says that he is willing to forfeit. A
million dollars a week is what he's going to be forfeiting.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
He said he can afford it.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yeah, right, because I can afford it. Was the line.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
He has racked up roughly two million dollars in fines
during this training camp hold out. He also gave up
half a million in workout bonuses. He would forfeit a
little over a million every regular season game.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Miss No, it's crazy. You can afford it. Till you
did not hear it. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
It's amazing when you're playing and you're making all all
the money. But when you're playing career ends and you're
not making that kind of money, you're like me real, Like,
did I actually throw.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Away millions of dollars?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Million dollars?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I wish I had that eight million? Now?

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Yes? Yeah, yes, But Cowboys right tackle Terrence Steel, he's
getting paid. He and Dallas have agreed on a five year,
eighty six point eight million dollar contract extension, fifty million guaranteed.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Make that paper.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
The deal can be worth up to almost ninety two
million with incentives. Now we're going to talk to a
little baseball guys. We've got two games going on. The
Reds have taken the lead over the Cubs. Tyler Stevenson
hit a two run homer, so Red's up four to
three bottom of the fifth inning.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
The Reds right now, going.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
Into today's game, are tied with the Giants and the
Diamondbacks for the last Waldcard spot.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
In the National League.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
The Cubs are holding onto that second Waldcard spot with
a two game lead. The Brewers have scored first against
the Phillies at home. It's one zero top of the
third inning. Obviously, this weekend the big games that everyone's
talking about, Dodgers and the Brave. Yesterday the Braves one again.
But Ronald Acunya Junior hit the hardest ball of the
majors this year. It was a four hundred and fifty

(27:08):
foot solo shot to center field. It came off his
bat at one hundred and twenty one point two miles
per hour.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Goodness, okay, now, Mancia I heard you yesterday on your
show making the argument that Mookie Bets still serves the
MVP over Acunya because you said the Akunya's sixty plus
stolen bases are tainted because.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Of the last saved.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
I didn't say tainted. I know, I did say tainted.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
I said, we have to mention that the bases are
way bigger and the rules have changed.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Tainted, tainted.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
You know it's tainted.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Here, here's the here's the and.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
And by the way, John Paul Morossey is going to
join us a little bit later on, I can promise
you right now, my first question to him is, as
a Kunya wrapped up the MVG award, I mean headhead
hold around, I mean.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
This every game against the Dodger. Yeah no, I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Mookie Bets hit four fifty five in August.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's entire month. Crazy, you hit four fifty five.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
How many of those home runs that Akunya hit did
Mookie give up? Though?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, look, if.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
This is the problem, the problem for Mookie Bets is
Freddy Freeman.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Well, if you're making an argument, then mookie Bets should
be the MVP. You can also obviously make an argument
that Freddy Freeman, right, they're gonna split the vote.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
No, it's crazy. That's two and two of the best
players onto this.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
This happens where you get teammates in any kind of
award where they'll split the vote, and there are gonna
be plenty of people that say, if you're if you're
talking about mookie bets. Freddy Freeman has been consistent the
entire year, like there's been no drop off in Freddy
Freeman the entire season.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Akunya has been great. I just wish we would find
something other than the stolen bases to marvel about, because
it's like no one remembers who the first person to
lead the NFL in touchdown passes was, after they even
in the forward pass. Yeah, well, the rule changes are
insane for stolen bases inflation.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Rickey Henderson set the record for stolen bases in nineteen
eighty two. He stole get the you're ready for these numbers?
He stole one hundred and thirty bases that year. Here's
the more even more remarkable, he was caught stealing forty
two times.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
He's still one hundred and thirty.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
One hundred and thirty, so he he attempted one hundred
and seventy two stolen bases, stole one hundred and thirty
and was caught forty two times. And that year he
finished tenth in the MVP voting nuts, So it really
wasn't like, you know, he was winning a lot of
MVP votes. He just made his mind set that year
I'm going to break lou Brock's single season RKINGD for

(29:45):
stolen bases, which he did. And by the way, when
it talked about the war stat in baseball, the stolen
base is almost a zero in terms of war. This
is why when you look at the war stats for Akunya,
they're below mookie bets. So again, well, we'll talk to

(30:05):
John Paul Morosi a little bit later on because he's
he's one of those guys actually has a say in
this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
How much in baseball does it depends on you being
the best team in baseball? I think some.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Degree, But I mean look at the Angels. I mean,
come on, you know Mac Trout won three MVP Awards
with second four times. Now you know Tany's going to
win a second MVP Award and was runner up last year,
and only one of those teams. Trout's first MVP year
was the last time the Angels made the playoffs, so
you statistically, if you are so off the charts, you

(30:39):
can obviously win an MVP. But all things being relatively even,
I mean this was big. I mean, if the Dodgers
went three out of four, sweet the Brays at home
this weekend, I don't think there's any question Mookie Betts
jumps to the top of the list. But the fact
the Brays come into Dodgers Stadium went three in a row, yep,
and Acunia hits.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
A home run in all three games.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
Three games yep.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
But we'll talk to John Palmerossi a little bit later
on Ali Monci. Thank you very much. All right, busy
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All right, I have a little frustration now. I have

(31:21):
a lot of frustration going on right now. So I've
had direct TV since the beginning of time, like literally
when direct TV began. That's a long time ago. They
were looking for sports talk guys to have Direct TV

(31:42):
put in, and the deal was obviously we had a promoter,
but I got free DirecTV service for years. You got
free service, free, zero zero dollars, zero cents. And this
is obviously when they had the NFL package and everything else.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And so all these years I've had Direct TV, and
frankly they were overpriced because they lost the ticket and
I'm like, why am I paying.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
All this money for Direct TV?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
And then they had a falling out with next Star,
which happens to be the parent company of my television
station that I work at, so I couldn't even get
my own station on TV. So I said, enough enough,
take that dish off my roof. I am done with
Direct TV, give me Spectrum. So last Thursday, I'm all excited. Alright,

(32:28):
look college football here eu tah in Florida. I'm looking
forward to this.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I turn it on, gone gone. What is this?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
All the Disney channels are off?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah? Okay, Steve, it sounds like a villain origin story thathing.
It sounds like I dumped the.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Dish to get Spectrum and now I have nothing, And
people are like what And I'm thinking to myself, all right,
so Monday night we got our first Monday night football game?
Right was that the that's it's and Bills Jets Bills game. Hey,

(33:05):
Spectrum Disney and this right now, I better have that
game on. That game better be on my TV or
all the hell.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's gonna break out. Yeah, this sounds like what is
going on with all this cable crap. They're all just
it's just like college football and realignment. It's all about
the money. That's it. Very simple explanation, Steve. If you're
making this, like I said, a villain a villain origin story,
and it's you know, the main villain, the main culprit
is Direct TV, but there's so many other villains out there.

(33:38):
It's all about the money.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well, I know it's been a bad year for Disney.
That is well documented. Their movies are losing hundreds of
millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
And their CEO is making a whole lot of money.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know, their four letter Sports network is hemorrhaging salaries
left and right. I get it, and they're trying to
make it up some way. But boy, you talk about
bad timing. For me, just like this, I'd Now. The
good news is I've been able to watch the games
on Fox, which is good, and I'm able to see
some of the others. But when I'm telling you this

(34:08):
better get resolved this week, what.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
What happens if it doesn't? What do you do? Do you?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I'm going to be somebody where I can see the game.
We can always because say, well, there's there's other ways
you can get the game. Yeah, by paying more money.
I'm not might to pay more money.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
YouTube TV That's where I'm at now.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, but well, so you dump Spectrum, completely.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Canceled Spectrum on Thursday once I saw that.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
So you dumped and you went to YouTube TV and
it's cheaper, right, Yeah, it's cheaper and it's actually better
for me. Are getting local stations, yeah you do?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah really?

Speaker 4 (34:42):
And Sunday ticket, which I have to have internet though,
yeah it's streaming, but I got Sunday ticket. And then
realize that I'm going to be here with you on
Sunday morning, so I really need to get Sunday.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I'm not worried about Sundays because we're sitting here watching
all the game together. That's same together, and we'll have
all we will have all the games.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I was on hold for an hour with Spectrum Support
to cancel my surface. I think it's a backfiring as well.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, they're gonna have to figure out something here, I mean,
really figure out something quick or Yeah, there's there's a
lot of people upset, all right, coming up on the
other side, We're gonna get back because we got a
couple of interesting college football games today, including one school
in particular whose future could hang in the balance.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
We'll explain.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Kerry Rhoades, Fox
Sports Sunday. We are live from the tai Iraq dot
Com studios.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Ah, yes, the great Jimmy Buffet. Come on, Steve, rock
out with me.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Look, I'm old enough to remember when this hit the airwaves. Okay,
I mean it was sort of that combo of country
and Calypso, and you know, it's just like.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
This is good music. It's just feel like it's feel
good music music. Way again readA. I don't want to sing,
I don't want to, but I'm hummonized. But's go ahead,
Steve one more time.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I mean, the guy became a billionaire marketing Margheritaville. She's
Burger in Paradise. That was another one of my all
time face it just sounds good, right, it sounds good.
It feels Burger in Paradise.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Feels like driving up, driving up right now on, you know,
going up north and just you know, top down. Oh yeah,
and the margarita, even though I don't drink, but yeah, margarita.
Yeah so good.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Well, I mean, Sam, you you know about that. I
mean you you've had plenty of Margarita's in your day.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
This this song sounds better.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
I'm sorry, I have a cough drop in here, but
this song sounds better after you've had a couple of margarite.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Oh yeah, kind of you're buzzing and you're.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Like, oh, And that's the thing about it, cons you know,
It's like he was very similar to the Dead, you know,
dead heads, because I had dead head friends who would
go to see The Grateful Dead when Jerry Garcia was
still with us, and they would go all these kinds
I want a few times and the various state of.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
Mindset's a lot of other substances, green substances being consumed
at those concerts, including by Jimmy himselves.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, and so and that would be that would be
great and.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Everyone would just share in the moment.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
So he will definitely definitely be missed, one of those
irreplaceable guys. All Right, I want to talk about a
school that's going to be in action today. College football
continues today. Oregon State is on the road against San
Jose State and Oregon State is ranked eighteenth in the
preseason AP Poll.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Eighteenth. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
The reason Oregon State is ranked so I they're obviously
they're coming out a really good season. They have the
best defense in the Pac.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Twelve in a.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Conference that doesn't have a lot of defense. And they
also have a big X factor this year in dj
Uyonga La lay So dj Ouyunga La lay.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I knew about him.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I did feature pieces here in Southern California. He and
Bryce Young were the two LA based you know, Orange,
Southern California Bay. These high school quarterbacks are getting all
the hype. Bryce Young d commits from USC to go
to Alabama and Oohyjunga lay is on his way to Clemson.
And we were already previewing since Alabama and Clemson were

(38:11):
seemingly facing each other in the championship game that We're
going to see these two kids battle for a national championship.
And oueyung la Lay of course is waiting his turned
behind Trevor Lawrence. And during the COVID year, the shorten
year of twenty twenty, Lawrence sat out the game against
Notre Dame, and Notre Dame beat Clemson that day, but

(38:31):
ooeyungo la Lay had a huge game, and so you're
just assuming, all right, Trevor is going to leave and
oueyjung Lay is just going to pick up. So they go,
you know, Deshaun Watson, they got Trevor Lawrence, now he
got oohyjunga la Lay.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
It's going to continue for Clemson. And it didn't win.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
It did not work, and so he ends up transferring
to Oregon State. I'll put it this one. I know
the talent this kid has, but so much of it
is putting that talent in a right system. The Clemson
system did not fit fit his talent, and Oregon State,
I'm sure, is trying to figure out, how can we
have a system that's going to make this kid the

(39:10):
player that we know he is. If Oregon State hits
on that, they could win the Pac twelve.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, Yeah, it seems like you're pretty big on DJ.
I'm sure you've covered him and you've seen him in
his glory time.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well he's a giant.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, he's big.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mean, I mean, especially when compared to a guy
like Bryce Young.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I mean, it was like night and day.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
All right, Well, let's go back to why didn't it
work out for Ui Younglulay at Clemson?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
It seems like obviously the hype train ran out of
control there, and you know, you get to see a
glimpse of a guy in a big time moment, big
time game, and they have a performance that sticks out, right,
So you see that and you see the potential and
you know, obviously with the acclaim he had coming in that, oh,
this is going to be, like I said, the second
coming of Deshaun Watson at Clemson, Right, and it doesn't

(39:59):
work out. I think a lot of times with the
quarterbacks system, yes, number one, but also we talked about
it we should do at Sanders earlier. I don't know,
and I'm not talking about his smarts as an everyday person,
but between the ears when it comes to football and
being on the field and being able to make decisions
on the fly when the bullets are flying. It's a

(40:20):
different scenario. So I think it's had something to do there,
because obviously the skills and the tools and the body
and the makeup, all that's there. So I think when
I look at him, he's usually thinking on the field
and not being the player that he was in high school. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Look, there's two things you have to have to be
a highly successful quarterback. Accuracy yes, and the ability to
think quick yes. And recognizing in split seconds what to
do with the football, where to throw it away, when
to take off or run, who to throw it to,
check down everything else. And it's a fine line. And

(40:56):
if you can't get it done yeah this quickly will
mean you're just not gonna be that next level quarterback.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
And it's and it happens quick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
All right, we're gonna get to much more of this,
but we'll talk about what ramifications it means for Oregon State,
moving head, plus lots more NFL news. This is Fox
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We're gonna have a big breakdown throughout the show today
as we get ready for week one of the National
Football Legal breakdown the divisions. Now that the rosters has set,
who's going to be Because we said this Carrie, every

(41:51):
single year in the NFL, without fail, you're gonna have
a half a dozen teams that are gonna far exceed
expectations and they're gonna be half a day and teams
that fall short of expectations, which is why on average
we have six to seven coaching changes every single year
in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
That's a lot, but that's that's what's at state, right
and so we're gonna break it down division by division.
Coming up a little bit later on the show. I
want to finish up though, with the Oregon State situation.
So we mentioned that Oregon State opens their seasons on
the road against San Jose State. By the way, keep
an eye on San Jose State's rushing total in this

(42:33):
game because last week against USC, they rolled up two
hundred yards rushing and average seven yards a clip. My
guess is they're not going to get that kind of
numbers against this Oregon State defense.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
No, and they're missing their two top pass catchers in
San Jose State as well, So it's not gonna I
think this game is going to be heavily in favor
of Oregon State, and so it's you know, you saw
San Jose State play us see last weekend. You kind
of remember them for that, but they're playing a much
different competition today on the defense side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
All Right, So Oregon State is part of the PAC
two right now with Washington State, now that Stanford and
Cal have signed.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
On a future in the ACC.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Can you imagine if Oregon State were to win the
PAC twelve this year? They say, you, I mean they could.
I mean, I'm I mean, USC is still the favorite. Obviously,
when he got Caleb Williams at quarterback, Oregon's gonna be good. Washington,
I mean, you got Bo Nix at Oregon, obviously got
Michael Pennix junior at Washing great quarterbacks, So I mean
those teams are still there. But we talked earlier about

(43:41):
Ujunga Lala and if he suddenly reverts to form that
we saw the expectations going to Clemson. If he's at
that level, Oregon State has got a better defense than
any of those schools, right Washington, Oregon or USC. What
would the future be for Oregon State? I mean, are
they going to have a fallback to the mount West
Conference with Washington State or will some of these you know,

(44:06):
big players Big twelve they see see Big ten say
wait a second, I mean, and can you trust that
Oregon State can maintain that level of play? I mean,
we've seen peaks and valleys of the Oregon State going
back to their Mike Riley days, Dennis Rickson as well,
So they've they've had some highs and lows. They're not
a complete wipeout, and right now obviously they're on the upswing.

(44:29):
But it would just seem unreal that this team that
has the potential to win the conference this year could
literally be without a home next year.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah. I can only see them going to the Mountain West.
I don't see any other entry for them right now,
to be honest. But the thing about the back twelve
right now and all these teams that we say have
a chance, and even all these quarterbacks who have the
potential to, you know, be in the Heisman mixed they
all do. I don't trust any of the quarterbacks. The
only one, the only one that I do and know

(45:00):
that it's going to show up every week. It's Caleb Williams, right,
and so I still think it's he's head and shoulders
above the rest of those guys. Those guys have flashes
of being really really good and can win you a
big game, but they can also lose you a game.
I've seen Michael Pennix, for example, really talented, can do
all the things. I don't trust them in big moments.

(45:21):
I don't trust both Nicks in big moments. And so
you see these things and you can get enamored with
the numbers and the stats that they put up, but
when it comes to being top of your class and
being the top show in all of this race, it's
Caleb Williams. And that's why you still lean with USC.
I just it is.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
It really is an unbelievable here in the Pact. Well,
this is the most we've had to look forward to
in terms of any kind of relevance for this conference
in a long time, and the fact that they have
a lot of top level college quarterbacks because of what
they do on the next level, and you know, multiple
teams in the top twenty five right now. We'll see

(46:00):
at Oregon State does also a little bit later on
today we have a matchup of two top ten teams
in college football as LSU and Florida State. This game
is actually going to be played in Orlando. Let me
ask you about Florida State for a moment here, because
you're familiar with their quarterback, Jordan Travis, because he actually
started at Louisville.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I think you were teammates. It was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
He's another one of those six year guys, but he
was there, played a couple of games as a true
freshman in twenty eighteen, transfer to Florida State. It's coming
off a really good year. And look, if Florida State
can win the ACC, I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
We haven't Clemson this year, but.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
If they're undefeated and he puts some some big numbers,
he's going to be in the conversation. What can you
tell us about this? Jordan Travis? Because I know Rich Ornberger.
I asked him last week I mean he's already putting
down money. Yeah, on Jordan Travis to win the Heisman
Trophy this year.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
There's gonna be money not well spent. Jordan Travis is
a guy that's he is unquestionably the leader. So we
talk about that like he is that guy. He's the
older state, the elder statesman in the row. He's a
full twenty three exactly, so he has that command of
the offense that we talked about. He's gonna they're gonna
be good. They're gonna be a good team to watch this.
They're gonna be fun, They're gonna have success. I just

(47:17):
don't think they're gonna be in the conversation at the
end of the year, in the playoffs or the National
Championship pitcher at the end. And so Jordan Travis, I
mean seeing him at Louisville in the three games that
he started there was couldn't complete a ball. So he's
come a long way. I'm very confident in who he
is now as a player for that team right now,
but I don't see too much too much longevity in

(47:41):
you know, being able to be in the Heisman mix
at the end of the year with all the other
talent around now.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Brian Kelly obviously took over last year at LSU. He
left Notre Dame. I'm sure out of just sheer frustration, right,
because he knew he could only go so far at
Notre Dame. You know, they have undefeated regular seasons, and
then he get into the playoffs and they just weren't
competitive because they just didn't have enough good players to

(48:06):
impede against the best of the SEC.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
So he goes to LSU.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
His three predecessors all won national championships, like Saban won
at LSU, Les Miles won at LSU, at Origron win
at LSU. And I think a lot of people were
surprised just how far LSU got a year ago. They're
preseason number five. Yeah, yeah, how good is LSU. They're
really good. They're really good and and Brian Kelly is

(48:33):
a really good coach. Brian Kelly is a really good coach.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
And I think, you know, you go back to his
Cincinnati days and when he was doing what he was
doing there and just being able to bring that program
to another level. I mean, everywhere he's gone, he's won.
Now he has the horses, you know, so to speak,
to really get it done in LSU, and I wouldn't
put it past him being right there in the thick
of it to win it all. But you know, a
lot of things have to go in your favorite Brian
Kelly's one of those funny guys that you know, tries

(48:58):
to adapt to his situation really quickly. You saw the
presser when he was in LSU. He was speaking in
this country twang, and so he's all in, we'll see
what happens.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, he is one of those guys, I mean, really
good coach.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Let's see. So what years were you at Louisville. I
was there from two thousand and two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, I mean they I mean that eight Cincinnati team.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I remember that. That's a really good release. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
So this is gonna be an extra interesting matchup with
LSU and Florida State sec ACC battle. And this is
this is what we find out again when we talk
about the college football season. We talked about Week one
in the NFL, but in the college football season, those
first couple of weeks you find out and I'm interested.
You know, yesterday Alabama got off to good start. Their
quarterback looked good. That's always a question when you got

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Georgia with a new quarterback, Alabama with a new quarterback,
fun Oh State. I mean, it's a little bit of
a mixed bag. But you don't know. And that's why
we'd brought up uong Lula at Clemson. I just assumed,
oh right, here's our Deshaun Watson Trevor Lawrence who were
younger lu Lay and it just doesn't pan out. So
these first couple of weeks of the college football season, again,

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there always is that team top five, top ten that
you find out very quickly was based on.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Don't be past and not on the reality of the presence. Yeah,
that's the crazy thing. Remember in college football when the
pressure to win every game was a real deal. That's
not the same now because of you know, the opportunity
to get in the top four and.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
That one was gonna be top twelve, so a whole different.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
So you can have one loss, right and be there,
Like one loss doesn't determine the fate of your season
like it did back in the day. You lose one
game back in the day and it was over, so
it takes a little pressure off. But yeah, that first
game is so exciting, man. You get to go out
there and see all the talk and all the noise
and see all the hard work come to fruition. So
it's beautiful. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
By the way, Ucla, my UCLA Bruins playing Coastal Carolina
last night out of the Rose Bowl. They introduced Dante Moore,
their five star recruit who decommitted out of Oregon to
transfer to UCLA. Didn't start the game, but he came
into the game, threw a couple of touchdown passes, a
couple of.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Beauties, a couple of beauties.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know, we were talking about this during Thompson Robinson
dtr only knew one speed on his passes, fastball. It's
all yeah, he just he just threw the ball hard.
And already with this true freshman Dante Moore, he showed
a couple of passes where he's got touch.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta have You gotta
have the change up for a quarterback as well. You
can't John hillwigh at all the time. You gotta gotta
switch it up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yes, I mean, when you were going up against quarterbacks
around the league who were the fastball quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
The fastball guys. You had Ben Ben Roethlisberger when he
was early on was the fastball guy. Who else was
like a fast fastball guy, he will be the one
that sticks out right right away.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
One guy that I was always told literally had the
full repertoire of the ability to throw any kind of pass.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Was Carson Palmer. Yeah, yeah, I mean he had he
had the fastball.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
If necess say, he could throw tich, he had all
the different weapons.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, Carson's fastball wasn't Ben Roethlisberger's fast So we're talking
about was like John always exactly me. They just saw
a clip on X the other day that I saw
where it was in Super Bowl against was it was
against the cow not the Giants. And he rolls to
the left and throws an out route back all the
way to the right side, fifty yards on the rope
for completion. And this is like, wait, can I can

(52:36):
I see that again? Like it doesn't it doesn't exist now,
all right.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
So when he was at Stanford, Alway also played baseball,
yep ye. And there was the legend of a game
they played against UCLA at Jackie Robinson Stadium out there
and he's playing apparently I guess some right field, and
there is a shot sinking liner to center that the
center fielder tries to shoe string and he gets under

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him and rolls all the way to the wall, and
of course he's sliding forward, so Alway has to run
out from right field. The ball literally stops at the
at the fence. It's at the base of the fence.
Three ninety five.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
He picks up the ball and throws it home one hop,
one hop, and the guy rounding third, thinking, you know,
it's like almost like an inside the park home run
is out by twenty feet and apparently there was a
gasp in the stadium like did a human being just

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throw that?

Speaker 2 (53:41):
You know what? That reminds me of? That reminds me
of Bo Jackson's throw. Yeah, I mean, just hearing the
story of what you're telling me, just you have these freak,
these freak athletes that can do certain things on the
field that just makes you do that right there. A
big one is you're just that was Elde That's crazy.
I saw him all the way back into high school days.

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All right.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Coming up on the other side, we're gonna get to
this NFL season.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
We got Week.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
One starting on Thursday, super Bowl champion Chiefs taking on
the Lions, is this the game potentially we'll see a
rematch in the postseason, or is there a possibility that
one or both of these teams are a little overhyped
heading into this twenty twenty three season.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
We'll break it down.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Kerry Rhodes, Fox
Sports Sunday. We are live from the tay Iraq dot
Com studios. Oh, we're like you out there. We're anxious
to get this NFL season underway, and it's finally coming Thursday,
four days away, when the Kansas City Chiefs will host
the Detroit Lions. Now, no one could have predicted a

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year ago the Lions would be in the kickoff game
in game in twenty twenty three, but that's exactly where
they are. Let's talk about this Lions team for a
moment here, And you know, we have some die Chris
who works here as a die hard Lions fan. My
brother in law, Chris, by the way, he's also a
die hard Lions fan. I mean, we're talking about suffering

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beyond imagination if you're a Lions fan. I've been around
a long time and they've I mean in my lifetime,
they have won a championship, and they last won a
championship in nineteen fifty seven. By the way, Buddy Parker,
who was the Lions coach when they won back to
back NFL championships in fifty two and fifty three, is

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a finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame this year.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Get him in there.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
And by the way, the fifty seven team he left
right before the season began to go to the Steelers.
So a team essentially put together one another championship that year.
But since then, not only have they not won a championship,
they've won exactly one playoff game. Yeah, and a buddy
of mine, Eric cran was the quarterback of that team

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they blew out the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
That was Troy.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Aigman's first game as a playoff game as the Dallas
Cowboys quarterback.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
The Lions blew them out. Barry Sanders obviously when Fonts
was the court coach.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
That is it, that one playoff win in sixty five years. Yeah,
that's so when we look at this Lions team and
the great season they had a year ago, breakout season,
Jared goff I thought, to be honest with you should
have been comeback Player of the Year. My knock on
Geno Smith was what was Gino Smith coming back from?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I mean Gino Smith had never been an elite quarterback.
Jared Goff had been an elite quarterback with the Rams,
fell off and then went back to the elite level.
So how much faith do you have in an organization
as miserable as the Lions have been to finally shake
that all off and build on what they did a

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year ago. Getting rid of the stench is a very
hard thing to do. You know, I would imagine you're
a Dan Campbell fan. I'm a Hughes Dan Campbell fan.
We all are, I think we all are. I mean,
he's one of those guys when you say players coach,
m h A player's coach needs to know.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
What it's like to be a player. Obviously he's done that. Yeah,
I think he's checked that box off. He's a great motivator.
He checks that box off. But I think where last
year he grew as a head coach was situationally, because
when you become a raw rock guy, a lot of
times you make that make decisions based off of that.

(57:34):
It seems like he's starting to make decisions based off
the feel of the game and you know, becoming better
at that, and so I think that's been a positive
for him and his team, and also just time with
him and learning how to take on the mindset of
a coach that's that way. You also, that takes time, right,
So I'm all aboard the Lion benwagon here. I think

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the division's pretty weak, and I also think they will
benefit from that. And I think they'll benefit from now
it's time to put it on the field, put all
the pieces together, and I think they have the right
coach and I think they have the right quarterback to
do that. And I wouldn't have said that last year
going into last year.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Well, scoring was not a problem for the Lions. It
was that defense. I mean, you obviously have a budding
star in Aden Hutchinson, but.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
The rest of that defense was I mean bad. Well,
they were being super aggressive at first last year, and
I think they simplified things and gave their young guys
a chance to actually just go play fast football and
not thinking about it. And I think that was the
reason why down the stretch they played better, because obviously
the offense could score, but the defense started to catch

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up and simplify things and put them in a position
to compete and just play fast and play hard.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
So yeah, when you look at Jared Goff and as
I you know what Sean McVay did from you know,
Gos's first rookie season when he literally like a guy
that did not belong on the field to a playoff
quarterback the very next year and played at an extremely
high level when Todd Gurley was in the backfield, which
was that two year run leading up to their Super

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Bowl loss to the Patriots. You know, the Lions have weapons.
And the thing about this matchup with the Chiefs because
it would appear barring some miracle, and it's not impossible
because I know Travis Kelsey's screaming at Chris Jones, we
need you, but Chris Jones is not going to probably

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be there Thursday.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Is if you give.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Golf time, if he's not feeling a lot of pressure,
he is an above average quarterback, yes, because he's accurate,
he can get the ball in the right hands, and
he's a rhythm guy. Most quarterbacks are. If they feel
comfortable in the pocket and they start getting a rhythm going, man,
they're tough. If you can't put consistent pressure on him,

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they're gonna be tough, and without Chris Jones, that's a
different look to that front line of the Kansas City Chees.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
This game definitely means more to the Lions right now
going into the season the Chiefs, don't you know, it's
the opening game. Everybody's gonna be excited and want to play.
But the Lions have a chance right away, right out
the gate to make some noise and solidify all the
talk that's been happening for any all season for them.
So big game for them. I see, you know, I
really see it being a high scoring game, and I

(01:00:21):
think it's going to be It's a Tulsa for me
on who's gonna win that first game?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
All right, So we're gonna get your season long piss.
You wrote them down, did I did not see them?
So you're gonna surprise me later on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I wrote them down. Yeah, But this Kansas City Chiefs team.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Rich and I were talking about this a couple of
weeks ago when we looked at the over underwins. To us,
the one team that just seem like money in the bank.
The overrunner on the Chiefs is eleven and a half,
meaning it's gonna be an over unless they lose six games.

(01:01:00):
They were fourteen and three a year ago, and I'm
looking at their schedule and I'm like, do you see
six losses on this schedule?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I mean where how are the Chiefs gonna lose six games?
You look at their division? The Chargers, even with Justin Herbert,
are the Chargers? They didn't beat anybody that had a
winning record.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
A year ago?

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Yeah, the Broncos, who knows, the Raiders. I mean, it's
a bad division. So that's almost six wins right there
at the worst five and one. Is there any reason
to believe even with the absence of Chris Jones? And
of course this is the huge assumption that obviously Mahomes
stays healthy. But is there any way this team would

(01:01:45):
lose six games? This Kansas City Chiefs team.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
There's a possibility, but I and I don't believe in
the Charges enough to say they're going to win a division.
But there is a chance that because the Charges played
them well, yeah, and they play they played it Chiefs
well all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Well, they seem to play better at Arrowhead than they
do it so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Far, and so I would be interested to see what
they do this year. And you know, Obviously, we all
want Justin Herbert to do well. We know how good
he is, and I just really want to see them
put it all together and that and that head coach
to actually start coaching football off of not statistics and

(01:02:27):
the field of the game. If that happens, that isn't
I got news for you. He has no feel for none.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
It's crazy when you watch that meltdown in that playoff
game against Jacksonville. If you needed any more proof that
Brandon Staley has no feel for a game, none zero.
I mean again, if you're only going by the numbers,
why do I need a coach? If you're only using
the numbers they're being handed to you to make your

(01:02:54):
decisions based on some kind of analytics. I don't need
a coach exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I don't know. Yeah, it's it's tough, man, but I
the Chiefs losing six games, it's gonna be hard hard
to fathom that, so I I just don't see it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
We'll have much more on that and we're gonna break
down all these divisions, but right now, by the way,
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(01:03:30):
it was there a wind down after your.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Big show debut yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Did you you know you get a little adrenaline pumped
into you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
Yeah, no, I was definitely excited.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
I may have celebrated a little bit with Sam after
nice So.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Did you guys know so Sam was? So you did
celebrate a little bit with Sam. Went across the street.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
Across the street to public school. They have a great
veggie burger. They can get past. It's so bombed. They
put like a parmesan crisp, you know, like those like
a slice of cheese, like a parmigan.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Is there any adult beverages? Of course I just wanted
to a bear. What's the adult beverage? What's your choice there?

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
I'm a tequila drinker. I am a tequila drinker. I
rather really just sip on tequila, but I'll have a margarita.
It's just to Margarita's is too much?

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Well, Sam, why did you share with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I had a little tequila myself and a few.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
Beers and a couple of beers, a little tequila with
an orange.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Did you guys order the same thing?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
No, I ordered for him because I looked over. I
was like, why are you having well tequila?

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
And then I handed him an orange and he throws
the orange in the tequila shot and I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
That's not what you do. The oranges were not good.
They were flavorless. What were you thinking? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
Orange you're supposed to it instead of the line. Right,
it makes it. It's more smooth because it's sweeter, even
though I want Have you had it with an orange?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
No, I don't want to do it sweet.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
Because some some limes are bad and it makes it
worse like it enhances it, No, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Like a grapefruit slice. But I don't know if they
have that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
Yeah, I don't know if they have that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I mean now, yeah, I'll take an absolute martini with
a lot of olives, with dirty, lot of dirty, dirty
dirty rich ormburger. You you want dirty.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
Rich or burger, That's that's where I go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Yeah, they'll tell you next week.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
Yeah, I'm sure he got to make.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
The ultimate dirty, dirty, filthy Martian rich is pretty good
about making drinks and oh yeah, well he can do
as a restaurant. He really is. But is filthy dirty?

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
No, no, no, you can drink. I'm not into that as much.
I have had a dirty martini.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
And I was like, no, you haven't had a rich one.

Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
Whitched one, all right.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
I was talking about the NFL, which does start in
four days.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Chiefs Lions are going to go at it. She just said.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
Coach Andy Reid Toll reporters today that wide receiver Kadarius Tony,
who missed much of camp with the lingering knee issue, is.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Good to go for week one. But they're still taking
it day by day.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
But still Chris Jones and the Chiefs remain far apart
on a deal, so he's continuing his holdout, hees. ESPN
reports at the Cowboys in right tackle Terrence Steele have
agreed to a five year, eighty six point eight million
dollar contract extension with fifty million guaranteed. And we move
on to Major League Baseball the Cubs and the Reds.
It's actually been quite a fun game back and forth.

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Ian Hap with an RBI single just ties the game
for the Cubs, so it's five point five top of
the eighth inning, Birs holding on to their lead over
the Phillies two to one.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
They're about to start the seventh inning.

Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
Luis Araez hitting a home run to start the Marlins off,
and they've extended their lead over the Nationals. It is
three to one top of the fourth inning. Going into
today's game. The Marlins are one game out of the
final wildcard spot in the National League, so they.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Need this one.

Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
At the FOEBA World Cup, Team USA lost to Lithuania
one ten to one oh four despite a push in
that fourth quarter. The US finishes second in the group
play and they're going to face Italy in the quarterfinals
on Tuesday. And Rutgers is still beating Northwestern seventeen zero
about six minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
To go in the third quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Back to you, guys, this game is rough.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
It's very boring.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Well, Carrie was asking me because we were talking about
who's going to be the worst team in the NFL.
He goes, which team is going to be the worst college?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I go, Northwestern.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
They win a game this year, I mean they were
one and eleven last year. They get rid of their coach.
They literally have no offense. They barely have one hundred
total yards in this game. I think they had nineteen
yards rushing when I watched. But I'm with you, Sam,
mister Big ten plus you know Big ten and friends
as we right now with eighteen schools in the Big

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Ten as of next year.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
But yeah, Northwestern, well, I mean, you're looking at Rutgers
and they might be the worst team in the East
and they're shutting out Northwestern.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah, and they're driving right now try to increase that
seventeen nothing the league. So it's going to be a
long year, long year at Northwestern in football, for sure.
All Right, I want to start breaking down some of
these divisions. We started with the Chiefs. I think we're
in tune here. The over under eleven and a half.
I think we're both leaning over on this. Let's go

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down the list as far as the AFC West is concerned.
The Chargers holding steady over under nine and a half.
They won ten games a year ago, nine the year before.
By the way, the two predecessors for Brandon Staley and
that of course will be Anthony Lynn before him, Mike
McCoy very similar, all higher by Tom te LESCo, the

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general manager of the Chargers. Both those guys had winning
seasons their first two years. Both had a playoff season
in their first two years. Difference was they actually won
a playoff game, unlike that embarrassment to happen the Chargers
with Staley a year ago, but after that Mike McCoy,
two losing seasons fired, Anthony Lynn last two years, two
losing seasons fired nine and a half for the Chargers.

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Where do you go leaning on them heading into twenty
twenty three?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I lean over, but by a small margin. I think
they'll win ten games. I think they have a you know,
one of the best young quarterbacks in the game, and
if he stays healthy, which we know the Chargers have
a lot of hard time stand healthy. But if they
can stay healthy as a team, I would lean over
on the Charges.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I'm definitely going under. The Chargers are chargery, Oh my god,
they are. This is some organizations can't shake it, and
that's where the Chargers are. And by the way, Justin
Herbert is looking a lot like Philip Rivers. A guy
who's big, durable, puts up big numbers, but it's not

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enough to get the team over the top. I mean,
Philip Rivers, I mean you want up against Philip Rivers.
I've no Phillips High School. Yeah, I mean Philip Rivers.
I always say this, I've never seen a quarterback. And
on a personal level, what's there not to like about
Philip Rivers. I know he's one of the great tash talkers,
but you know, this was a guy that could throw

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to empty space like no quarterback I've ever seen. He
would throw passes seemingly to nobody that a receiver somehow
miraculously would show up right in time to catch the ball.
So his ability to throw football as well documented. But
think about this, during the decade of the twenty tens,
he started one hundred and sixty straight games, never missed

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a start. In that ten year run, they had a
losing record, never won a division title, never won one,
not one division title. They had two wildcard runs during
that stretch. And when I watched Justin Herbert, I am
seeing almost the same quarterback, a guy who had an

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incredible ability to throw football. Looks like he's going to
be a durable quarterback. He's a big guy, but there's
something missing. Now he could disprove me, but already when
you look at it, Joe Burrow, or you look at
a Mahomes or you're looking at some of these other quarterbacks.
They've already shown that they can do that little extra yep.

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And I haven't seen it yet from Herbert, And I
don't know if it's enough to overcome a coach that,
to me is a fraud. Yeah, a guy that is
simply going by analytics and nothing beyond analytics. To me,
I smell trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Trouble. I smell trouble for the Chargers. The Charges are
I hate to say this word. They are an enigma.
They really are. They've had so many teams where they
should have at least gotten too a Super Bowl and
had a chance to win one. And so to see
that that hasn't happened for them, there is something in
the water there. But justin Herbert, he has a little

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thing that's things a little different there. I don't know
if it's I know what you're saying the comp with
with Philip Rivers here, but I think he's going to
get them, get them different. Well, and here's another point.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
So Brandon Staley was brought in as a defensive coach
or he was the defensive coordinator of the number one
defense in the league. Course he had, you know, Aaron
Donald in the middle of that defense. But I'm watching
them play the Chiefs and Travis Kelcey is a problem
for every team everybody, and you have a very gifted

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safety in Derwin James. But I'm watching the game in
which I believe Kelsey threw scored three times and they
essentially were having single coverage Derwin James on Travis Kelcey,
and that wasn't working, I mean at all. And when
you continue to do the same thing over and over

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again and you get the predictable results every single time,
that just doesn't show me a lot a lot of
awareness awareness. You know, we talk about halftime adjustments. I
don't think he's capable of halftime adjustments.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Yeah. The crazy thing about playing a tight end like that,
and I'm just like solely breaking down that that battle.
I was a guy who I would guard the number
one tight end as well, and we had Hall of
famers in my era of tight ends, and I would
take that responsibility personal. I'm sure it's the same thing

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with Derwin James, as that's the type of player he is,
So I'm sure that's yeah, give him, I got him.
I got him. But even with me, who was really
good at that, we would have a plan B and something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
I mean, you gotta shake up the look, you gotta
change it up. You can't make it that easy for
Kelsey because he knows how to separate, he knows how
to get that distance. And then when he gets even
a little separation, he has a quarterback's going to put
the ball on the money. I just that's that's my frustration,
all right. Coming up in the other there's two other

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teams in this division, and I honestly, you talk about
two highly unpredictable teams going into twenty twenty three. The
Broncos and the Raiders are right there. We'll explain why.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Kerry Rhodes, Fox
Sports Sunday. We are live from the tai Iraq dot

(01:14:22):
Com studios. We're getting ready, like all of you out
there for Week one of the NFL season. Talk a
little bit about this AFC WES. So we are in
lockstep on the Chiefs that there'll be an over eleven
and a half. We're split on the Chargers. You're saying
over nine and a half. I'm saying not so fast,
not so fast, right, all right, let's talk about the

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other two teams. And really, for both of these teams,
the question mark is both No. I mean you can
say this for any team, but I mean, it's the
head coach and it's the quarterback. So let's start with
the Broncos. The Broncos won five games last year and
it was a disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
It was a catastrophe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
And if you've been watching Hard Knocks, I think you
get an idea why Nathaniel Hackett, as good as a
coordinator as he is, is not head coaching material. He's
too goofy. There was no discipline, there was nothing, And
he assumed that bringing in a veteran quarterback like Russell Wilson,

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that Russell Wilson would assume that leadership role in the
locker room. That's not Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is a
me guy. He's not a we guy. So you had
a coach that was incapable of controlling the locker room
and a quarterback that was incapable or not even willing
to control the locker room, and you saw the end result.

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So now you have Sean Payton coming in and believe me,
he'll take control of that locker room and he's got
Russell Wilson on a short lease.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
It's very simple.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
If you can execute my offense, you will be my quarterback.
If you don't, you will see the bench. You know,
you've got the Walton family that has untold riches, that
bought the Broncos organization, and they've given Sean Payton power
like very few coaches have in this league. He has

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total control. He would not have signed on with the
Broncos without it. He's not going anywhere. Yeah, so Russell
Wilson better perform or he's out. So that means it's
really who knows? I mean, can he get Russell Wilson
back on track? The over under on the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Broncos is eight and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Whoa, So they go from a five and well they
five and twelve last year and Vegas thinks Sean Payton
it was an operation. What happened to Russell Wilson. They'll
be back. So if you're going over, that means you're
predicting this Broncos team is gonna have a win record. Yeah,
at least nine and eight. Do you see that happening

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for the Broncos this year?

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
I am a little torn because I do think that
if anybody can resurrect any quarterback and in his system,
it would be Sean Payton. I didn't like the way
Sean Payton came and try to, you know, put a
little caution, a little red tape on what to expect

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for this season, because he kind of did that right,
He said, this team was a mess, this team was this,
the head coach, the previous head coach was this and
that and whatever, and so he put like a little
disclaimer out there early to kind of soften, you know,
the impact of what he would have in this team
going forward. So, you know, I would think that nine

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wins could be feasible, but I'm gonna have to take
the under here because I don't trust what Russell Wilson
can do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
All Right, Well, let's let's keep in mind the Broncos
won that last Super Bowl in Peyton Manning's final season.
The Broncos records in those seasons since then, so the
year after they went nine and seven, and their records
in the last six years are five and eleven, six

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and ten, seven and nine, five and eleven, seven and ten,
five and twelve. Oh, they've finished last in this division
three straight years. So I think there's a lot there. Yeah,
I think again, why he did what he did and
throwing Hacket under the bus was trying to convince everyone
in the locker room. But the only reason you guys

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were five and twelve, it's not the talent in this room,
it's that you had the worst coaching staff we've ever seen.
That's the only explanation why I had team with this
kind of talent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
But do they really have that kind of talent?

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
I'm with you, I'm going under on this one. I mean,
they haven't seen nine wins in a long time, and
that's what it's going to take to go over all
right quickly on the Raiders six and eleven in his
last thirty nine games as a head coach, Josh McDaniels
is eleven and twenty eight. Keep bringing Jimmy Garoppolo's a
proven winner when he can stay on the field. Yes,

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the over under is six and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
So they're basically saying they're pretty much worthy were a
year ago. Maybe a tick up? Are they a tickup team?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I think I will go over. I think they are
a tickup team. I think if Jimmy stays healthy Jacob's
back in the fold. Who can take the pressure off
of him and you know, keep it short and sweet.
I say, over, why are you going short and sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Here? Let's take this another way. Hold on a second here,
I come on, Steve, We're doing good here. Jimmy Garoppolo
has to obviously stay up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yes he does.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
He has the seventh highest winning percentage of any quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
In the history of the National Football League.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
And what makes it even more impressive is look at
Kyle Shanahan's record with the forty nine ers with him
without Jimmy Garoppolo, It's like night and day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Garoppolo is a winner.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
He's also got a career passer rating of one hundred,
so it's not some smoke a merrors deal.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
He can get the job done on the field, and
Josh McDaniels obviously knows him. It's hard for me and
leaning on this one, I'm gonna lean over there you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Go, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I mean, can they win seven games? Can they go
seven to ten?

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
This is assuming again Josh Jacobs. But then look at
Josh Jacobs did what he did a year ago. DeVante
Adams did what he did a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Come on step over. That's an over divine diablo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Key to that defense, key to that defense, because if
that guy is who they think he is, defensively, the
Raiders will go over. All right, we got much more
NFL to break onund getting ready for a week one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
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as a Division one FBS games and college football, we

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have three today.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Okay, one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Being played right now one of the most unwatchable games
I've ever witnessed, as Rutgers leads Northwestern by a score
of twenty four to nothing. These are the bottom feeders
of the Big Ten. So that's what we've been exposed to.
Now we're gonna follow up with a matchup I'm very
interested in kick off in about a half an hour.
Oregon State on the road against San Jose State, and

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then later of course a big matchup with LSU and
Florida State game. I'm really really anticipating it's going to
be a good matchup. So they've got some good college
football going on today. But it's the bye week that
is now the norm in the NFL before Week one.
And by the way, we were talking yesterday Carrie about

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this idea of cutting from ninety to fifty three. Used
to be it was, you know, you'd cut it from
like ninety to seventy, seventy to fifty three whatever. And
by the way, the practice squads are expanded to sixteen now,
so a lot of teams are picking up players, but
no real shockers. Max Duggan, all right, so he got released.

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You know, a year ago, he's running up for the
Heisman Trophy. This was a guy a year ago this
time that wasn't even TCU's starting quarterback. Oh Dykes came
in and basically benched this guy who had been the
starting quarterback, and then an injury allowed him to get
back in and then he has a magical season. But
he's not an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
No, you could see that with them play and in
those games, especially in the game against the real defense
Georgia defense who's got NFL players on it, you could
see the distinction there. But it's funny Mills started yesterday
and TCU losing. So the magic of Max Duggan is
still there at TCU. Yeah, I mean you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
I always say this about great college players that don't
pan out at the next level and sometimes like Heisman
Trophy winners, right, and like if a Heisman Trophy winner
fizzles at the NFL, oh wait, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Overrated, I'm like, well, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
I mean I go old school with Ty deptmer at
Byu go Ti deptmar Okay. Ty deptmer at Byu was
one of the most unreal college quarterbacks ever. I saw
a game once where he uy is playing San Diego State.
This was Marshall Falk's freshman year at Sandego State and
b Yu was down four touchdowns and came back to
and the game ended in a tie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
This is before the overtime role in college.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
For fifty two all Wow and debor in this game
through for five hundred and ninety nine yards. So here
was this diminutive guy and it was so funny. Norm Chow,
longtime offensive coordinator there, and of course went to USC
with you know, Carson Palmer, Matt Liiner, and they had
been down for a couple of years with the quarterback

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Levell Edwards, their Hall of Fame coach there, and he
was like, Norm, give me a quarterback, and he says,
I got a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I got a kid out of Texas and he's hyping.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Him up, and Lavelle Edwards says, I'm expecting John Elwhite
to walk in the door and here's Pee wee Herman.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Are you kidding? This is our quarterback?

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
But his football IQ was so off the charts and
he could execute that in the Old Wack Conference, and
of course he beat national champion Miami in the opening
game of the year. He won the Heisman Trophy and
that's really what won him. The Heisman just carved him up.
But he didn't have the stature to play in the NFL.

(01:24:56):
You know, he played fourteen years for a while, yeah,
you know, because that brain was of value on the sidelines.
He was with Brett Farr at the beginning of his career.
Everyone to work with. This guy said, you have no idea,
Like he saw things you know that we didn't see,
and it really helped us out. So I never take
away nothing takes away Macduggins Max Duggan's season at TCU.

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I mean it was a fabulous season. And honestly, had
they won that Big twelve championship game, I had him
second on my final ballot, behind Caleb Williams. But with
Caleb Williams losing to Utah, had had TCU won that
game and gone undefeated.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Yeah, would you have changed a vote? Dugan would have
had my vone. Wow, it was. It was that close
for me. Talk about a story book potential situation there. Obviously,
even losing that game and still having a chance to
make the final four, beat Michigan, beat Michigan, get to
the championship game as a reserve player. Oh, the story

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would have been crazy. Yeah, this guy's had a heart
sat perce. It was great, Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Really two separate things when we talk about the college
ranks in the NFL, two different sports and completely all right,
let's pick up where we left off. So we were
talking about the AFC West. Let's go to the NFC.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
North, NFC North.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
All right, so we because the reason we're starting. We
have the first matchup on Thursday between the Chiefs and
the Lions. So we talked a little bit about this
Lions team over under nine and a half and you're
leaning over over for sure that this is no accident
what happened a year ago, And I'm with you. I'm
leaning over on Detroit. Yeah, I'm a believer in golf.

(01:26:35):
I'm certainly a believer in Dan Campbell. They got a
lot off, a lot of weapons. That defense is just
got to They can't be any worse.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
They won't be any worse. I mean, they got to
get better, right Steve. Like I said, the carryover from
the end of the year, just knowing what personnel you
have and knowing what they can do. They got the
tape of that. Now, they got a sense of who
they are as a defense. And I think that's the
beautiful thing about coaching and about actually putting your players

(01:27:03):
in the position to succeed. You have a system in
place that you want to run, you have schemes, you
have all these ideas, but once you're able to see
it on the field and see how they play and
how they perform and you put them in that position
to do that. Again, that's what will happen here. And yeah,
I mean definitely over here for the Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
All right, So let's talk about this NFC North yep,
and let's start from the bottom up. Chicago Bears were
the worst team in the NFL a year ago. They
wrapped up their season at three and fourteen, earning them
the first pick in the draft. And it's about Justin Fields.
This team ended the season on a ten game losing streak.

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Now here's what's interesting about their over underwins three and
fourteen a year ago. In Vegas, it's holding steady seven
and a half. So again, Vegas doesn't lose money. They
know how to put a number up there that people
are going to believe in this team. But I mean,

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an over means they have to at least win five
more games than they did a year ago. You have
to win eight games eight nine, eight and nine. So
let's start with Justin Fields for a moment here. Ohio
State's quarterbacks. Let's face it, there's a long list of
highly celebrated Ohio State quarterbacks that have not panned out

(01:28:31):
in the NFL. Absolutely one after another. And I look
at Justin Fields even going back to his high school
days when he was a super hype kid out of
Georgia and then he goes to Georgia and something happened
there Where's he able to transfer immediately to Ohio State.
And again, when you're throwing to a team that has,
you know, multiple All American wide receivers that are seemingly

(01:28:51):
wide open, you know, it's hard to gauge just how
that translates to the next level. I still believe in
Justin Field. Okay, are the Bears as bad as they
were a year ago? To me, a record is what
you are. But I think the potential is there. But

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a five game leap.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
I don't see the only the only thing that could
be their saving grace is that this whole division is
so bad that they win let's say three games in
their division and then all of a sudden, you have
to win a few more out of the division. But
from three to eight, I can't see that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I gotta go under. Here you go under. Yeah, I
can definitely see them winning three division games and splitting
because those teams are going to beat each other up
and neither neither one of them outside of Detroit I
think is particularly good. Uh So I'm definitely going under
for sure. And I don't know how much Fields can

(01:30:00):
carry that team. I mean, they have their devout of
upper echelon talent on that team. I mean, what is
the strength of the Bears. I don't know. It seems
like they're putting everything on Justin Fields, and I just
it's not going to happen. Not the way that he plays,
the style of football that he's going to have to
play for them to win, this is not going to happen.

(01:30:22):
It's funny, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
He had this preseason game where I think his first
two passes were like seven yard touchdowns, and if you're
not watching the game, we're like, wow, bombs away a
couple of bubble screens. Yeah, exactly where he actually threw
the ball behind the line of scrimmage, completed the ball
behind the line of scrimmage, and then the receiver does
the rest. I think we're both in the corven the
Bears away, all right, so they're over under his seven

(01:30:45):
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Guess who else is at seven and a half? The Packers?

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Okay, interesting, So all we're hearing about Jordan Love is
way to you see Jordan Love. Way to you see
Jordan Love. So this is a Packer team before last
season that obviously was coming off back to back thirteen
win seasons in which Aaron Rodgers is the league MVP,
and then last year they took a mighty leap backwards,

(01:31:11):
which raised a lot of questions. Was it no DeVante
Adams as far as the receiver's concern, was Aaron Rodgers regressing?
Because here's what I saw with Aaron Rodgers and even
get to the Jets in their future down the road.
But I'm watching a lot of Aaron Rodgers and I'm
seeing passes that are late passes that are lacking the

(01:31:34):
steam they used to have. So to me was a
combination of a lot of things that led to the
Packers fall where they got to the final game still
with a chance to make the playoffs, and they got
boat raced by the Lions in that final game. Jordan
Love has been in the system now for several years
under the floor, so he knows the system. And again

(01:31:57):
we saw similar handoff from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
But remember Aaron.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Rodgers first year as the starting quarterback of the Packers.
They actually took a little step backwards. So again I'm
looking at a bad division where if somebody, you know,
gets a few breaks their way could surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Yep. But I don't see the Packers as that team.
I'm with the same seven and a half. I'm going under,
you're going under, all right, This is my this is
my interesting one. You you mentioned the Brett fav of
Aaron Rodgers situation to hand off the passion of the baton,

(01:32:39):
so to speak. The baton has been passed here. I
don't know. I think we all knew how good Aaron
Rodgers could be and would be. Join Love is still
of a question still a little bit of a question mark.
But that team is put together, still pretty well, really
good defense. You got great corners on that, you got

(01:33:00):
guys who can make plays. The receivers are a year
more developed into that system as well. It's going to
be on Jodan Love, and I hate to put it
on one person, but I see the Packers being second
in this division. So I say, over over here, I
say they get over seven and a half wins and

(01:33:21):
actually threaten to make the playoffs here.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
All right, So I already know your favorite to win
the division is the Lions. On the other side, that
brings us to a team that well made history last
year in the NFL, something that had never happened before
and I dare say will never happen again. We're going
to break down the Vikings and much more of the NFC.

(01:33:44):
We continue on. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin,
Carrie Rhoades, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the
ti iraq dot Com studios, anxious to get the NFL
season underway. We could be breaking down the rest of
this Rutgers Northwestern games, or as an alternative, we have

(01:34:05):
chosen to actually break down NFL teams as we get
ready for Week one, and a lot of people out
there obviously engage in some kind of future betting, including
over unders on wins that we're lending our opinions today
on teams that are again overrated, underrated, and it never fails.
There's always half a dozen teams that far exceed expectations.

(01:34:31):
I mean just last year alone, we talked about this.
If you had said before last season began that the Steelers,
the Jaguars, the Lions, and the Seahawks would all have

(01:34:53):
a winning record. Come on, come on, there was no
way that was going to happen for any of those teams.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Out of those four, which one was the biggest surprise
to you because the Seahawks mine too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
I mean the Seahawks because again they were trying to
sell when they traded Russell Wilson away.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
The Drew Lock had a future which I knew didn't
have a future.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Yeah, most people didn't even know that Gino Smith was
still in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
I was one of those guys. I had no idea
he was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
And the guy has that kind of a season, There
was no way. I mean, all these were miraculous. So
they're out there. You just got to figure out which
teams are going to be this year's Steelers, Jags, Lions,
or Seahawks. Okay, so we have one more team as
we wrap up the NFC North and that is the
Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
So the Vikings last year.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Did something that had never happened before and it will
never happen again. They were thirteen and four last year.
They actually ended up the season giving up three more
points than they scored despite being nine games over five hundred.
So they were eleven and oh in one score games,
meaning of course they were two and four in games

(01:36:10):
decided by more than one score, eleven and oh in
one score games. And I guess the irony was they
had a one score game in their playoff game against
the Giants and they lost. No team is ever going
to do that again. But here's here's the thing about
that eleven and oh record. So you could dismiss it

(01:36:31):
as a fluke, or you could recognize the fact that
they were eleven and oh because their quarterback Kirk Cousins,
found a way to win games that were close. Right,
everyone all season long, everyone was dismissive of the Vikings,
and when they end up losing the Giants in the playoffs,

(01:36:53):
I said.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Say, see, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
They were nowhere near that team. But let's give him
some credit here, right, I deserve credit for sure. I mean,
I mean some of them were miracles, like the Bills
game or the all time record comeback against the Colts. Yes,
all time record comeback thirty three points down.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
So I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
I mean, Kevin o'connup comes in as a first year
coach and at the very least you can say he
got more out of that team.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Than they should have gotten. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
The problem is Dalvin Cook's gone, and when you have
a middle of the road quarterback, in my opinion, in
Kirk Cousins, having a running back of that caliber is
a huge asset that maybe's necessary. But get this, the
over under on this team is eight and a half.

(01:37:56):
So much like we had the Bears go from three
to eight and a half or seven and a half,
you have the Vikings from a thirteen win team. They're
over unders eight and a half, meaning all they have
to do is win nine games and they go over.
So Vegas not a believer. The question is Kerry Rhodse, Yeah,

(01:38:18):
are you a believer that there is at least some
substance to this Vikings team coming off last season?

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Okay, Minnesota's hard for me because I've become a little
bit of a homer for k K Kirk Cousins. I
think he's won the hearts of many people on the
Netflix show of the Quarterback, right, a lot of people
have seen how much hard work and dedication he puts
into the position. He has a bit more of a
personality than we thought.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
One of my favorite lines was, so he's getting the
crap beat out of it. Yeah, and he comes off
the sideline. They got the sideline miked up, and I
don't know if it was the head coach or one
of the assistants says, are you okay? And he goes, no,
I love the honesty exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
No, I'm hurt, exactly. No, this getting hit hurt. So, yes,
we get it, Kirk, But I like him. I like
Kevin O'Connell. I've known him. He's a team made of
mind for a bit, and thirteen games was a miracle
for those guys. They won't duplicate that eight and a
half eight and a half, I'll say over, but I

(01:39:26):
mean barely over.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
I mean, wait a second. Out, you're picking the Lion
I am to win. You have the Packers in second yep.
So if you pick the Vikings over, you're saying this
division is going to have three teams with the winning record.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
I think so, because there's a lot of people looking
in this division right now saying, if not the worst division,
they're pretty close.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Yeah, I would not call it the worst division. And
I think again, the NFC and its whole entirety is
a little bit down anyway, right, So I don't see
the Seahawks duplication. Well we'll go all. We'll go to
that divisions later. But yeah, I see Minnesota barely making
it at nine here, so I think they'll be an
over all.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Right, Yeah, I think there's something there with the Vikings.
I mean, seriously, leg we mentioned at the very beginning,
Kevin O'Connell is like every other coach as you sit
down with your team before the season began with that
positive this is our year. And most of the Vikings

(01:40:33):
that were there a year ago are in that locker
room right now. And so it's not far fetched for
Kevin O'Connell to sit there and say, look, all season long,
people doubted us last year, and maybe they get the
last lap because we lose a tough game against the Giants,

(01:40:56):
but we know we can win games. Sure, it may
have been a weird finish, but we won at Buffalo.
They did, now they came home and got boat raced
by Well, but we won at Buffalo. Yep, we won
against qual It wasn't like we were rolling up wins

(01:41:16):
against all bad teams. We beat some really good teams
a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Well, they're gonna regrets to the mean here, You're not
gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
I can they win nine games from thirteen to nine.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Yes, they're gonna it's over. It's over up to eight
and a half. But I mean as far as them
last year being thirteen and four, it's a regress, right,
So going eleven and oh, like you said, that's not
gonna happen again. So say they go seven and four there,
and then they still have the same two and four
record in their in their games with one plus score,

(01:41:51):
that's nine wins. So I can see that happening.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
All right, We're gonna switch scares on the other side.
I want to get to the NFC East and but
we're gonna bring it into this conversation on the NFC since.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
You've already picked the Dallas Cowboys to win the NFC.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
I'm just I remember reminding the whole world of it. And
if your Eagles are Super Bowl champions, you can't take
any credit.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
For them none. That's fine, you're on the record.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
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Speaker 9 (01:42:31):
Yeah, Ethan needed to get in and he like texted me,
He's like, when you're done with your update, and we
hadn't started yet.

Speaker 6 (01:42:38):
And then literally I get up and You're like, where
are you gonna go? And I was like, no, don't
go to me there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
I did have anything I saw. I saw a wave
in the white flag over there for a bit. We
saw that, Yeah, ten seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
I mean, Moncy has a lot on her plate these days. Again,
if you're just tuning in and you haven't heard about
her new show with Alex Curry, it's gonna be from
one to three on the West Coast for to six
on the East coast. Correct Saturday's here on Fox Sports
right now. Do you have a name for the show?

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
No, I mean I know it is Fox.

Speaker 9 (01:43:09):
Sports Saturdays with Alex Curry and Montellanos And then you
guys come on right after.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
Yes, yes, go on right after so I will.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
I will be on it through you know, high five
with you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:43:22):
Yes, yes, you had to scooch A little bit to
let us in, Yes, but thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
All right, Well, good luck with that, all right? What
we I mean, are you going to give us a
full breakdown on this? Northwestern Rutgers get not.

Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
Even a little bit, not even sort of. The game
is almost over.

Speaker 7 (01:43:37):
Fellas, that's what matters.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Almost.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
There is twenty four seconds in the time out, so
they can lad twenty four nothing and Northwestern is just
trying to get in the end.

Speaker 9 (01:43:52):
So you really thought for a second maybe there, but no,
it did not happen.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
Almost over twenty four seconds to this game though.

Speaker 7 (01:44:01):
Number eighteen Oregon State is going to take on San
Jose State. That's at three point thirty pm Eastern time.
Let's talk it a little baseball, because the Cubs ended
up dominating the Reds final score fifteen to seven. They
score ten runs across the eighth and ninth inning to
solidify that victory. The Phillies are still beating the Brewers.
It's four to two top of the ninth inning. The

(01:44:22):
Marlins and the Nationals are tied at four piece. Bottom
of the sixth inning. Pete Alonso did hit home run
number forty of the season.

Speaker 6 (01:44:29):
Mets obviously not going to the postseason.

Speaker 7 (01:44:32):
But they're currently beating the Mariners five to three top
of the sixth inning, and the Red Sox are blanking
the Royals three zero, top of the fifth, Cardinals up
on the Pirates five to three, bottom of the fourth,
or Rangers are blanking the Twins three zero. They're about
to start the fourth inning. Rangers coming into today's game
there then ye down Northwestern. Well at least they got

(01:44:54):
in there.

Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:44:57):
Nineteen seconds Togo, it's twenty four to six on this.
But yeah, the Rangers going into today's game two games
out of the top spot in the Al West. That
race is very exciting. But right now they are blanking
the Twins three zero. Coco Golf at the US Open
just started her round of sixteen, so let's see.

Speaker 6 (01:45:15):
Well, I'll keep you guys updated on that. She just
got going.

Speaker 7 (01:45:18):
Big story in the NFL is that Cowboys and right
tackle Tear and Steel have agreed on a five year,
eighty six point eight million dollar contract extension fifty million.

Speaker 6 (01:45:26):
Garon teed he can't say what Chris Jones says because
I can't afford it. He officially can say that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
That's that now but twenty years from now, he's gonna
like say, what the hell was.

Speaker 6 (01:45:38):
I yes, yes, I know, I know.

Speaker 7 (01:45:40):
Right now he feels like he's fine, but it's gonna hurt. Hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
By the way, this game is not over yet, so Northwestern, Yeah,
they go for two years, then it would be a
two score game on sidekick recovered touchdown, two point conversion
on sidekick recovered two point version, and we're going overtime.

Speaker 6 (01:45:58):
Yeah, I bet you one thousand dollars that won't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
All I hear is.

Speaker 6 (01:46:04):
One odds millions though.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
So anyway, they're going to kick the extra point instead
of going for the two, instead of going.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
For the win. Darn wow, Darren.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
I concede right there. All right, Matzi, thank you very
very much. All Right, So we're going to bring a
bow in right now. Again, this is Fox Sports Sunday,
Steve Hartman, carry roads with you. We're breaking down some
of these NFL divisions get ready for the start of
the season starting Thursday with the Chiefs and Lions. Turn
to the NFC East right now, that's why we're bringing

(01:46:36):
a bow. Who is our resident Eagles fanatical who's apparently
if he wants to you know, prove be proven correct.
This year has the Cowboys on his radar to win
the NFC and.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
The NFC East.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
But let's let's go from the bottom up, guys, and
let's let's talk about the Commanders. By the way, the
new ownership of the Commanders will tell all these people
signing that petition, no, we're not going to be known
as the Redskins. Okay, that that is not happening. And
I can understand why, first of all, the league would
never approve that. But anyway, they're still the Commanders. Ron
Rivera is still the head coach, and this is a

(01:47:10):
team again that is not void of talent. Certainly on
the defensive side of the football, the Commanders have some ability.
But this team is sitting at six and a half.
So a seven and ten season will get you over
on the Commanders, and they've been hovering right at five

(01:47:30):
hundred for the last several years. Let's start with bo
over here. The Commanders in that division with the Giants, Cowboys,
and of course your Eagles, all playoff teams a year ago,
does this Commander's team have a chance to win at
least seven.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Games this year?

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
I'm gonna take the under going under Yeah, I don't.
I'm not a big fan of Rivera and Sam Howell
doesn't really move the needle.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
For me yet.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Yeah. And really what it is is there's so much
uncertain around Chase Young still, Like I think I saw
that he might not even be ready for week one,
So who knows what's going on there. Uh, just they're
going to be middling, I think, but definitely under here, here's.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
The thing you have going on this year. Plus you
have to keep in mind, is Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
In the draft?

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Yeah, I think I think we all agree here Caleb
Williams in terms of potential of the NFL is a
next level talent. You know we had well, I think
Andrew Luck. You know, there's certain quarterbacks coming out of
college that you know are next level and game changers.
So a team like the Commanders, if things go sideways early,

(01:48:41):
could be entering the sweepstakes to try to get that
number one overall pick. So I'm sort of with you.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
On this one, bo I see.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
I mean, and plus, this is a transition you're carry
for this whole organization. I mean, they're trying to change
the mindset not only on the field, but even actually
at least season one, more so off the field, the
whole dynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Of the organization.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
So with that all going on, and what I got
to believe is a Lane Duck coach and Ron Rivera,
I just don't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Yeah, they're resetting the culture right now, and I know
that where gets thrown out a lot. But obviously they
needed a new culture, they need a new you know,
new ownership energy there as well, and so yeah, they're
going through a transition. I definitely see under here. But
you know they have talent too, So it's one of
those things, like you said, if it goes south early,

(01:49:31):
it's gonna go south for the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
Of all the numbers in this over runner and these
are consensus, okay out of Vegas right now, the overrunner
on wins. This one to me is one of the
shocking numbers. So a year ago the New York Giants
made the playoffs. They want a playoff game. Daniel Jones
showed enough for them to give him a huge, big
money extension. I think we're all in this room here
recognized that that Brian Dable is an emerging star coach.

(01:49:58):
Brian in the NFLP I mean he was the guy
that you know, turned Josh Allen from a mediocre throwing
quarterback to an elite throwing quarterback. And we saw the
changes he made in Daniel Jones from a year ago.
The overrunner for the Giants wins this year seven and
a half. Seven and a half, yeah, meaning even if

(01:50:22):
they take a step backwards and go eight to nine,
you win. You're betting the over. So I'm trying to
figure out why that number is so low.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Well, we'll start with you. Start with me. First, love Brian,
I've known him for a long time. Great motivator, great,
you know, a great dude, great coach. Daniel Jones isn't
the great. He's not even a good quarterback yet to me,
And so for him to be giving the money that
he'd just gotten was a huge shock to me. Forty million, Yeah,

(01:50:53):
it's a lot. And say Kawon Barkley, that situation all
around that stuff, it's just too much noise right now.
So I actually say under here, wow, wow, Yeah, I
think they will regrets and I don't believe in what
they have talent wise yet Brian was able to get
them in a point of sneaking up on people. But

(01:51:14):
they won't sneak up on people this year. Are you
with them?

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
Bo?

Speaker 4 (01:51:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna do the over, But like you said,
like it's gonna be eight wins. I thought the whole
thing in the NFL now was not paying running backs,
But the Giants paid two running backs this offseason and
take one Barkley and Daniel Jones. So it's just a
weird I don't believe in Daniel Jones and the slightest
nothing about him makes me think he's an NFL quarterback
and they should have just not paid him and probably

(01:51:39):
just eating the year and then had a chance to
draft one of the two or three guys in the
NFL draft that are going to be really good players.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
I know preseason games are meaningless, but the Giants got
worked in that second half by the Jets. Maybe they
were just playing to the cameras, you know, the hard
knocks thing, but Giants didn't look good. That being said,
Brian Table to me as a hell of a coach.
He is he is because you talk a guy who
maxed out a team, that's what he did a year ago.

(01:52:08):
Giants aren't great really on either side of the football.
They're pretty middle of the road. But that being said,
I'll be the tiebreaker with you two guys.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
I gotta go over.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
I just I can't imagine them losing ten games this year.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
They I'm looking at their schedule. Last year, they had
one win all year that was by more than one score.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Yeah, and this is why. Look at they dropped the
Vikings from a thirteen win to over under eight and
a half exactly. This is why the Giants are sitting
at seven and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
In Steve, with all my wins, I'm giving the NFC North,
I gotta take somebodies away, so it'd be one the
Giants would be one of those guys, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
So on the other side, let's let's get to the
elite teams. Are these the two best teams in the NFC?
Talking about the Eagles and the Cowboys, we'll break it down.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harmin, Kerry Rhoades, Fox
Sports Sunday. We are live from the Tirak dot Com studios.

(01:53:08):
John PALMERROSI are Major League Baseball Insider's going to be
joining us coming up in the next hour. We're breaking
down some of these NFL divisions as we get ready
for the start of the season some of your future bets.
There may be a voice you trust in this room.
We're giving a variety of opinions on these over unders
as far as wins are concerned for the upcoming season.

(01:53:29):
We're talking NFC East our producer bos In on this
conversation since he is an Eagles fan. But before we
get to the Eagles, let's talk about those Dallas Cowboys.
This is a team that won twelve games a year ago. So,
in other words, the Cowboys were good. They were really,
really good, and they're over under is nine and a half.

(01:53:49):
Now again, I'm looking on the surface of this thinking
to myself.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
They won twelve games last year in a division that
had the e They had some big wins, I mean,
some really impressive wins, including that annihilation of the Vikings.
You're telling me that even if they win two less
games than a year ago, if I bet the over,
I win. This is again a weird number nine and

(01:54:19):
a half for the Dallas Cowboy I'm going to battle
lead off here. I gotta believe that Dallas can win
ten games this year. I don't see any scenario here. Again,
assuming that we have a healthy quarterback. I mean, this
is a big assumption across the board.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
For any team.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
You got to have a quarterback that's going to be
out there. You know, he might miss a game or two,
but he's got to be out there for the majority
of the season. But you can't tell me the Cowboys
took a step back. So, I guys, nine and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
That number is so low it just seems unreal.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Okay, so I'm going over.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
But over, they might be a third of away there
by week four they go they played both New York teams,
then they go to Arizona and then they play New England.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
All right, that's all right, So Carrie, try to explain
to me what again, Vegas they do their homework. Yeah,
they don't just throw out numbers randomly. Because you look
at this number. People have got to be pounding the
over on this team. But that's what they want. They
always want teams to So, I mean, do you see

(01:55:31):
nine and eight? You see an eight to nine Dallas
Cowboys team this year?

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
Absolutely not, no way. I mean, how are we explaining
this number? I don't know. I mean from what it's
what seem like on the outside looking in is maybe
they're down on deck, right, because if I mean all
circumstances being equal, I mean, Duk is a good quarterback
and he's had success. I know he had the turnover

(01:55:55):
problems last year where yeah, you know, he threw a
lot of interceptions. So maybe they're down on the deck experiment
here or something like that. But outside of that, there's
no way this team is not going to win nine
ten games and be that fringe of a playoff team.
They're firmly safe in the playoff type of team and

(01:56:16):
so definitely on the over here.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
Well we haven't gotten to the NC West. But I mean,
I dare say because the jury's out on brock Party,
I mean, I'm sorry, the whole brock Purty thing. Still
he has to prove it. And the thing, Brock, if
you go back to brock Purty with the forty nine
ers last year, there was only really one game once
he became the starter that wasn't a blowout, you know,

(01:56:41):
where he actually was in a close game. So you
still have to prove to me, brock Purty that you know,
in a shootout game against an quality quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
That you can come out on top. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
But I think we're all staring at that nine and
a half, Like, what is what is up with that
number in the Dallas Cowboys. So at least in this
through them, I think we're all on the We're thinking
the same thing that that seems like a number that
is way way low there.

Speaker 4 (01:57:06):
Their travel isn't even brutal either. They play both New
York teams in the first two weeks and then they
play they play both LA teams and back to back weeks,
so they're not flying all the way around the country
or any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
Like, all right, guys, let's let's wrap this NFC East
up with the Eagles. So the Eagles last year phenomenal season,
and they reward Jalen Hurts with a huge contract. I've
always been a Jalen Hurts guy, going back to everything
that he experienced in college that that to me showed character.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
You know when you're when you're the sec offensive player
of the year as a freshman, you know, and then
at the end of your sophomore year, you're yanked in
the championship game and watch two a tongue if I
loa throw a Devonte Smith to win a national championship
and then sit on the bench for a year as
a back up and never made any stink about it.

(01:58:02):
I know at all crazy transfers to Oklahoma runner up
for the Heisman Trophy, and I kept asking people over
and over again, where's the ceiling on this guy? Getting
do you have a read on Jalen Hurts?

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
And no one did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Now I think we're all agree that he hasn't even
begun to tap into his potential. So that being said,
over runners eleven and a half, Yeah, that's that's a
come down from where they were a year ago. But
I mean, guys, if the Giants aren't that good, if
the Commanders aren't that good, they're downgrading the Dallas Cowboys.
The whole division's coming down. Does that make any sense?

(01:58:39):
I mean, where are you staying on this?

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Eagles? I'll lead off with this and I definitely it's
eleven and a half, right, Yeah, I think the Cowboys
are going to win the division, so I'll say under
but eleven wins. I think that's a really good, strong,
eleven and six. Yeah, I see that being a really good,
strong gift for them. I see a little bit of
a hang over here in this situation. I do believe

(01:59:03):
in Jalen Hurts. I think he's a really good quarterback,
but I don't think he's premier yet. He still has
some stuff to prove there, and I think with teams
being able to really game plan against him and what
he does well now, because we didn't know he could
throw the ball outside last year, so to know that
he can.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
Do that now he's got weapons to throw too, Yes
he does.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
But defenses will change, and will you know, it'll be
interesting to see how he reacts in this year.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
All right, I'm gonna let both finish this one up,
but I'm gonna jump in right now. So here, it
would be my only concern with Jalen Hurts is injuries
because anytime you have a quarterback that runs, and we've
seen it the last couple of years of Lamar Jackson,
all of a sudden he goes down and that is
a completely different Eagles offense.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
So I'm sort of with Carrie here.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
Eleven and six obviously a playoff team, and then you
know everyone has a clean slight when she gets to
the playoffs, so I I might take a step backwards
and go under.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
So we'll leave it up to you, mister Eagle.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
I think that's right there. I think it under is right,
but it's gonna be like eleven and six, maybe twelve
and five. The defense is the wild card. Like if
the defense gets better with the additions of Jalen Carter
and Nolan Smith, then that might be might be over there.

Speaker 6 (02:00:22):
See.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Well, another thing I can't get a Syrianimat is a goofball.
I mean it's not that he doesn't know football, because
he does, but I remember him from his Charger days.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
He just seem a little goofy to me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
All right, So we're all in agreement there as far
as a very interesting division. All right, John Palm MOLROSI
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We're into the all important month of September, down the

(02:02:07):
stretch of Major League Baseball, so we have a lot
of stories to get to there. We've been breaking down
some of the divisions. We aren't going to get to
all of them, but I want to get to one
division that is very interesting at both the top and
the bottom, and that is the NFC West. And again
when we look at over unders, there is one team

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according to Vegas, that is two games worse than every
other team in this league. So thirty one out of
thirty two teams have an over under of wins of
at least six and a half. The exception is the
Arizona Cardinals at four and a half. This is where

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it gets interesting to me in terms of of intentionally
tanking a season, because Carrie, first of all, you were
an Arizona Cardinal.

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
Don't remind me right now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
But let's say it's the intention of the organization to
do everything possible to lose. You still have players taking
the field, Yeah, you still have coaches that are getting
paid to coach. I can't imagine anybody involved in the

(02:03:30):
National Football League, which has been your lifelong dream.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
Yeah, if you're a player, if you're a coach, this
is the best of the best.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
Going into a season where an organization is looking at.

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Like you need to lose, make it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
So imagine being in that Arizona locker room right now, Carrie,
what the hell's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Well, you're not telling Gladiators to lose on purpose, it's
not gonna happen. They're gonna play hard now being put
in a position to succeed as a different story, and
that happens, and that has happened. But guys in the
locker room, they're gonna play hard, and they're like we
talked off air about, like guys are playing for their livelihoods,

(02:04:24):
they're playing for their families, and they're also playing for
themselves to you know, if the situation doesn't work out
in one situation, you go to another one, right, So
you still want the tape to look good when you
come on and people see you. So they'll play hard.
They just won't have enough help to help them get

(02:04:45):
over the hump. So yeah, it's gonna it's definitely an
under here for me.

Speaker 1 (02:04:50):
So Kyler Murray's first three years in the NFL could
not have gone better. Offensive Rookie of the Year, back
to back legit probols not an alternately made the Pro Bowl,
leads his team to the playoffs this third year. Each
year his numbers got better, and then all of a sudden,
the story comes out that he wants to play video

(02:05:10):
games all day.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
Yeah, and I'm like, what happened here? How did this
story get out and.

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
Last year obviously went bonkers, you know, de hoped the
whole the whole thing goes sideways on what is the
future of Kyler Murray. I mean, let's assume for a
second here, Arizona does end up with the number one
pick in the draft and they take Caleb Williams. Yeah,

(02:05:37):
are you interested as an NFL franchise in Kyler mur
I mean, he obviously has proven he can play at
a high level in this league.

Speaker 2 (02:05:46):
Yeah, that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (02:05:50):
I mean, if you were to rank quarterbacks one through
thirty two in this league, I gotta believe Kyler Murray's
in the top half.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's proven that, right, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:06:05):
Ooh.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
I mean just that's you talk about the stanch. We
talked about that before. The sentence stats around him at
the moment, it's kind of hard for me to fathom
any team bringing him in. He's diminutive, he's small. He
would have to learn a system where he came into
Arizona knowing the system already, so he'll be at a disadvantage.

Speaker 1 (02:06:25):
Who again, let's get back to what we've been talking about. Yeah,
put the system in that lets him succeed. Sure, but
he's little and he Carrie did that. He did, he did,
but they were pretty much a package already. So I
don't think he changed his system for Kyler Murray. That
he already knew the system. So there's a difference there.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
Well, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
I'm not going to bring him into a different system
and say, all right, you're not going to run, You're
gonna be a pocket quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
But what I'm saying in theory, if you were to
bring in a Colum Murray, you're gonna have to bring
in somebody that know that he knows, a head coach
or a coordinator that he knows to kind of accommodate
him and ease him into that situation. To go and
bring him into a situation where he's going to have
to learn a new system, new terminology. It's going to
be hard. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
I know what I see, right, I know what I
saw at Oklahoma when he won the Heisman Trophy. I
know what I saw in his first three years of
the Arizona Cardinals. And let's got some back to Johnny Manziel.
Remember when he went to the Cleveland Browns and we
just saw it on the recent documentary where they put
him in a system where he was basically an ad

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lib guy for two years at A and M. They
just let him do his thing, yep, And he was
a guy that thrived off of having fun. Brett Farv
was a having fun type quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
In the NFL. Yep. And he has the most interceptions
in league history. Exactly. Yeah, that's my point. So it
was a win some lose some along the way.

Speaker 1 (02:07:57):
I mean, that's the interception he threw against the Saints
and the NFC championship game when he was with the Vikings. Oh,
but I mean that's how you got the best out
of Brett fark was to let him just do his thing,
and that's who Kyler Murray is.

Speaker 2 (02:08:13):
Well, they let him do his thing. But Home gam
also had a system. So it's still there are basics
to the system that has to operate for the team
to be successful. It's not just about the one guy
playing street ball and making it happen. It just that's
the longevity of that is not going to be a
good going back to Manziela. Browns would not let him
do that, and then suddenly he lost interest in the

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game because He didn't have any fun for sure, for sure,
but that's at the detriment of one player, not the team,
the Rams.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
Now I'm on the record and I'm going to say
it again and again and again. Forget the Arizona Cardinals.
The Rams are gonna have the worst record in the
NFL this season. Yeah, you keep and I'm not I'm
not voided conspiracies, but its just the one thing about
the National Football League and why they're the king is

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that a lot of things have worked out in their favor.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
So you got Caleb Williams at usc Is.

Speaker 1 (02:09:15):
Caleb Williams more valuable to the league as an Arizona
Cardinal or as a Los Angeles Ram.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
I think you know the answer to that one.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
So the Rams are going to play out the string
of Matthew Stafford. He's making sixty million dollars whatever this year,
some crazy number, and he'll he'll step down.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
You know, he's had a long career.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
And whether he's a Hall of Famer or not, that
he'll be up to other people that concern. But I again,
I'm talking to people about this Ram team. If you
saw their preseason, you know how bad this team is.
They lost two games thirty four to seventeen. The last
one they lost forty one nothing to the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
Oh Man, forty one nothing last forty one and it's
a pre seat, but forty one nothing to the Bronco.
That's a bad outing.

Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
Yeah, and Sean McVay said, yeah, we have some concerns.
They are playing to lose and they are that bad.
I mean, you talk about a team that needs to
avoid injury. Half that roster is basically rookies. So if
Matthew Stafford or Aaron Donald go down and Cooper Cup's

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not healthy right now, he's had hamstring problems and he
can't shake them, yeah, they're going to be right there,
toe to toe. I mean, so they're over under is
six and a half. This is an under. I mean
two weeks ago, I was like over over over exactly
two years removed from a Super Bowl healthy Stafford, healthy Donald,

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Cooper Cup back. Now I can talk to people, yes, both.

Speaker 4 (02:10:46):
I actually put Rams over the Seahawks on my out
on a limb. I thought they would be better. I'm
actually looking at the Rams schedule now and I want
to take that back.

Speaker 1 (02:10:55):
I mean, I just want to listen to me, folks,
do not weigh money on the Rams over. Yeah, don't
be full by that number. Six and a half.

Speaker 2 (02:11:04):
They are bad. The confidence with which you speak on
this topic, yeah, has convinced me too. It's a it's
an under and I definitely wouldn't have thought that looking
at the projections of it. I mean they have two
I mean top end talent, top tier talent they have. Yeah,
so you would think, yeah, you can win eight seven
games off that easily. But the inside information you're giving

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us right now, Steve, I think I'm gonna have to
go under as well.

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
It's going to be neck and neck with the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (02:11:33):
It's so funny to see like Rappaport tweet out that
Cooper cup is going to see a super specialist for
his injury but he's still day to day. That doesn't
really track with me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
It's Yeah, he had arguably one of the top three
seasons of any wide receiver in the history of the
National football He won the Triple Crown, he was a
Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 2 (02:11:54):
Yeah, Offensive Player of the Year. It was that good. Yep,
he's not healthy.

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
All right, we'll have the wrap up on that division,
but coming up, well, switch scars for a moment, We're
gonna check in out Major League Baseball as we head
down the stretch. It's the September run. John Paul Morosi,
our MLB insider, joins us. Coming up next, Steve Harmin,
Kerry Rhoads Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tairaq dot

(02:12:20):
Com Studios.

Speaker 2 (02:12:21):
Weave your hands like you just don't care, Steve.

Speaker 1 (02:12:23):
I know we're talking baspall here.

Speaker 2 (02:12:27):
It is.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
I'm one of those few people that can remember all
of Ted Klazuski's best seasons. His forty nine home run,
one hundred and forty one run spat it in nineteen
fifty four. You can look it up.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
He was runner up to Willie Mays in the MVP voting.
In fact, if you look, May's got two hundred and
eighty three votes and Klezuski had two ten. But I mean,
I know I'm a little fanatical about this, but so
is this man. He knows as much, if not more,
than all of us combined when it comes to the
great sport of baseball. He is our Fox Sports Radio
MLB insider John Paul Morosi, as Jonny is right now,

(02:13:00):
you like big clue. I mean, he had the bare arms.
You know he would wear they said the Reds had
like a vest thing, and then you'd have an undershirt,
and He's like, I don't need no under shore. I'm
going to show off those.

Speaker 10 (02:13:11):
Big gun I right, that was the first thing I
thought about Big Clue. There are a couple famous tops
baseball cards from that vintage, but Big Clue wearing zero
sleeves under the sleeveless uniform top. So certainly a four
time All Star. You're right, one of the very best

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players in the National League. Goes about a three or
four year span mid fifties where he was as good
as it got as a power hitter in the National League.

Speaker 1 (02:13:40):
Well, speaking of best at their position or in their league.
Hezekunya wrapped up the MVP with the last three days
against the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Speaker 10 (02:13:51):
Quite a statement weekend for him. Huh, just remarkable. I
was there on Thursday night, was honored to interview Ronald
after he became the first ever thirty sixty player in
the history of Major League Baseball. And there is a
case for Mooki Bets. I've been talking about Muki a
lot over the last month, but I also think there's

(02:14:12):
something for having it and demonstrating it in the course
of a series one versus one Mono ay Mono, and
I listen, Moki hit two homers in Thursdays two, so
it wasn't as though he's been absent from this series.
But we do know the Braves have won the first
three games of the set and Akunya has been starring throughout,

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showing his full skill set, the power of the speed,
the defense. I happen to believe there are no wrong
answers in this nl MVP vote right now between Mooki
and Acunya. But I do think Acunya, as the month
of September has begun, may be seizing control of the race,
just based on historic nature of what he's done and

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also the head to head I'm a big in let's
let some head to head competition determine who ends up
being the winner and if the Braves end up having
the best record in the National League, which I expect
they will, and Acunya is one of the one of the,
if not the most decisive reason why I certainly can
understand and they really appreciate the argument. Now for Ronald.

Speaker 2 (02:15:19):
Acuya Junior, John there's been a there's a trio of
teams right now that have been huge disappointments as the Mets,
there's the Yankees, and there's a Padres. Out of those
three teams, who who's been the biggest disappointment out of
those three teams to you.

Speaker 10 (02:15:37):
To me, carry it's still the Mets. And I know
there are certainly other cases have been made in this area,
but when when you go back to the offseason and
they had brought in Verlaner, and they were going forward
and it was going to be the most expensive team
in the history of the sport, and for this to
be the result, I think is really surprising and one

(02:15:58):
that I think is still registering as the most disappointing. Now,
with all that being said, Carrie, the interesting thing I
would say is that is that actually, as you enter
twenty twenty four, the Mets are in better position than
the Yankees because of the decisions that made it the deadline.
They actually they were decisive. It wasn't maybe in the

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way that everybody expected, but at least they weren't decisive,
and the Yankees just seem to be in this middle
ground where you're not really sure what they're going to do,
and what the rationale is. But as you know, Carrie
from having played there during the course of your amazing career,
the New York media is very patient. They'll give them

(02:16:39):
a few years to figure things out where there'll be
not a critical word written or ordered. And I'm sure
that everybody's going to be really patient as both of
these teams get things figured out.

Speaker 1 (02:16:49):
Kerrie, all right, So we've talked obviously a lot about
Otani's situation, but I want to talk about another free agent,
and that is Cody Bellinger. I mean, you talk about
comeback player of the year.

Speaker 2 (02:16:58):
What a season.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
A couple more hits today, three more runs batted in.
He has more than a dozen more RBIs than any
other National League player. Since the All Star break, He's
sitting three twenty. His ops now is at nine to sixteen.
It's been unreal what he's done this year with the
Chicago Cubs. What's the market with Bellinger? Does he stay

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a Cub? Is there chance he returns to the Dodgers?
What kind of market is there going to be for
Cody Bellinger?

Speaker 10 (02:17:26):
Well, he, to me is one of the big guys
that we're going to be watching this offseason. And to
your point, I think that he's really playing his way
into being a top five National League MVP finisher. If
you think about it's interesting. You know, it's usually hard
for reader's rattle off names that I think will be
the top five of an MVP ballot here on September

(02:17:47):
the third, But I think it's going to be in
some order Akunya, Mookie Freeman, Olsen, Bellinger top five. Yeah,
that's how I look at it right now, and maybe
something changes. But the big thing for Bellinger two is
that is that he the fact that he's playing these
big time games and trying to get the Cubs into

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the playoffs. A lot of eyeballs around him right now,
and he's delivering. I've been very impressed by the way
that he's played. I think the health overall Scott boris.
There was a back and forth recently about the way
in which he was handled medically with the Dodgers. Look,
I think that Scott was just trying to advocate for
his player and explain why the production wasn't there. And

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I think now if Scott wants to make the argument
that for a period of time Bellinger wasn't fully healthy
and now he is, I suppose on some level it
makes some sense just based on how productive he is.
This is just his age twenty seven season. He just
turned twenty eight, and he's been really productive. So I
think that we're talking about six years, maybe maybe longer.

(02:18:53):
And I think that with this production, he's pushed himself
into the twenty five million dollars range a year range
for him. I think he's been that consistent. So if
we talk about seven times twenty five, I think that
that kind of a contract would not at all surprise me.
And we've seen you know, that's kind of the realm
of the really high end players. I mean, there is
still some risk because he went so many years in

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between really good seasons, but I think seven years and
won seventy five kind of in that range of what
Dansby Swanson did. Because of the uncertainty surrounding Otani, I
do think that there's going to be a robust market
this winter time for Cody Bellinger.

Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
Well, those a Martian that played his first game yes
in Houston and you know, hit his first pitch hit
a moonshot, knocked it out. How good is Jason Dominga
is going to be as a prospect with the Yankees.

Speaker 10 (02:19:44):
Well fittingly carry in the Space City, as you mentioned,
that was where the home run happened. The Martian and
the Space City there Houston, Texas. But he's always been
regarded as one of the top offensive prospects in the game,
and I think it's just a matter for him of
rounding out his skill set. They're still going to be
some sling and miss and I think that's the important
thing to mention with him now. He will certainly still

(02:20:05):
take his walks. He walks seventy seven times in the
minor leagues this year, at least at double A Somerset,
but he struck out one hundred and thirty, so will
he will sling and miss, but he will also walk,
and when he connects like he did the other night,
it's got a chance to go pretty far. So he's
someone I think Carrie, whether it's him, Austin Wells, the
Yankees need some good news. They need some positive vibes

(02:20:29):
after what's been a disastrous season, and I think they
need their internal group to really deliver. You know that
they've had and they've given opportunities to players who like Volpi,
Braza Brera, who I think have shown themselves to be
valuable major league players, but I don't think we can
call them superstars yet, and in fact, I know we can't,

(02:20:50):
and so I think this is where they need some
star power and energy on his team that's not coming
from Aaron Judge. And I think at least to see
him Dave you with a home run on a big
stage in Houston against the reigning Role Series champs, I
think was a very positive sign for a Yankee team
that really needs one.

Speaker 1 (02:21:09):
The Baltimore Orioles are following the path of what the
Astros did several years ago, where they weren't just bad,
I mean like historically bad. I mean this team, excluding
the shortened season in twenty twenty, had one hundred and
fifteen losses, one hundred and eight losses and one hundred
and ten losses, and right now they have the best
record in the American League. Are they the team to

(02:21:32):
beat this year in the American League?

Speaker 10 (02:21:36):
They are for me, But I love the way you
frame that because I don't really know there is a
team to beat in the American League. If I had
to pick one, I would pick Baltimore Seattle, though they
had a huge win yesterday over the Mets. I think
that I expect them to find a way to win
their division or at least make it in as a
wild card. They're going to be a dangerous team to

(02:21:57):
play because of their starting rotation and also the bullpen depth,
you know. I think with Baltimore, I'm a little bit
nervous about the Felix Bautista injury and the impact that's
going to make on them. But I love teams that
are homegrown, that played the game together then understand how
to get the most out of each other, and that
to me, all of those things are true of the

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Baltimore Orioles and Kyle Bradish continues to be one of
the more underrated pitchers in the National League this season.
So really encouraged by the way they've played. And I
think you're spot on it. In the American League is
really anybody's game as much as the National League. We
have looked at it as a coronation between the Braves
the Dodgers and that that's inevitably going to be the NLCS.

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I expect that to be the case. I'm not convinced
of it, though, because of the way the Brewers have
played and maybe the Phillies get hot again. But it
really does seem to be in the American League side
of if you're someone who likes to predict the least
likely champion or really get into these interesting conversation points,
I'm a big believer that the American League is where
you focus your attention and see if you can find

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someone that's a bit of a long shot. I agree
Baltimore the front runner, but not by much in what
I believe is a wide open American League.

Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
All Right, finally, I got this question for you, your
beloved Michigan Wolverines. Yes, single file formation, raising their hands
in honor of their coach, Jim Harbaugh, the school suspending
him for three games. Interesting enough, a lot of support.
Is this going to inspire the Wolverines two even greater

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heights in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 10 (02:23:31):
I think that it's all going to come down to
how well they play against Rich Arnberger's Penn State and
the Ohio State Buckeyes on the final day of the season.
I mean, that's to me, it makes for a nice story.
I think they beat East Carolina by exactly the same
margin they would have beaten them had Harbaugh been there,
And I suspect that they will win the next two

(02:23:54):
games in non conference play, then start the Big Ten season,
And at the risk of sounded like a football coach,
I'll run this by carry myself here, at the risk
of sound like a football coach. If you need additional
motivation from Big Ten or from internal imposing of a penalty,
whatever it might be, if you need more motivation to

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go down to Happy Valley and play Penn State, or
if you need more motivation to go play the Buckeyes
on the final Saturday November, You're in the wrong sport. Okay.
You win because of what's going on in front of
you and your teammates and the colors that you wear,
not about whatever discipline's going on off the field. Forget
about that stuff, in my opinion, and it's all about
the quality of the people lining up across the line

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of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (02:24:36):
Jully of that, here you go, You see where he stands.

Speaker 2 (02:24:39):
That sounds like house Mellenberger. There love it, JP, We
love you man.

Speaker 10 (02:24:44):
Sounds great, guys. I appreciate it. It's been an awesome
baseball season. I'll be listening on Sunday. I know it's
going to be all football mode from here. But you
know World Series time when news breaks. Give me a shout,
Steven carry just to enjoy this amazing football season. I
want to thank Ryan for all the great conversations during
the baseball season as well.

Speaker 2 (02:25:03):
It won't be our last conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:25:04):
We promised you that JP, JP, thank you so much.

Speaker 10 (02:25:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:25:08):
That's John pal Morosi. All right, let's find out what's
trending right now. I know so many games going on
in football today.

Speaker 7 (02:25:16):
Sure, surelotts, but there there is a lot going on.

Speaker 10 (02:25:20):
Now.

Speaker 6 (02:25:20):
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no oui ungle la la.

Speaker 1 (02:25:28):
It's actually easier to say that, so Ui, don't look
at the leg.

Speaker 2 (02:25:33):
I was just telling you. We just had a whole conversation.
Dj oui unga.

Speaker 6 (02:25:38):
Okay, I'm gonna sure that one. That guy, that guy he.

Speaker 7 (02:25:41):
He rushed in Oregon State is on the scoreboard first against.

Speaker 6 (02:25:44):
San Jose San Jose State. It's seven zero early in
the second quarter.

Speaker 7 (02:25:49):
Djui la la la.

Speaker 6 (02:25:54):
I thank you so that that's the one game going
on right.

Speaker 1 (02:26:01):
I won't have to worry about that name tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (02:26:02):
Hud No, I won't have to, but I'm gonna have
to eventually, So I got I feel like this was
last year.

Speaker 6 (02:26:07):
Me asking you this name.

Speaker 2 (02:26:08):
Do you remember this? I do a year ago? Ooh
young gala A.

Speaker 1 (02:26:12):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 7 (02:26:13):
Mean I mean, I mean, I got it. I got
it all right, guys, let's talk a little baseball. The
Marlins scored two runs in the ninth inning and held
on to beat the National six to four. Luis Aries
went two for four, continues to have the best batting
average at three fifty six. The Phillies were down, but
they weren't out. They ended up beating the Brewers four
to two. The Cubs scored ten runs in the final
two innings to beat the Reds fifteen to seven. This

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lost bump Cincinnati out of the final Waldcard spot in
the National League by half a game, and now they're
tied with the Marlins for that last Waldcart spot half
a game out. Currently going on Red Sox beating the
Royal six to one bottom of the seventh inning, the
Cardinals have taking the lead over the Pirates sixty three.
Top of the eighth, the Twins and the Rangers, it's
a tie game. Royce Lewis hit a three run homer

(02:26:56):
in the fifth inning and tied up the game for
the Twins against the Rangers three to three, bottom of
the sixth inning, and the Rockies are beating the Blue Jays,
although now they are on the rain delay.

Speaker 6 (02:27:06):
It's three to two top of the fifth inning.

Speaker 7 (02:27:08):
The Orioles have scored first against the Diamondbacks. Then the
Diamondbacks scored, but Baltimore still on top. Two to one,
top of the second inning, and the Padres are beating
the Giants three zero, bottom of the first inning.

Speaker 6 (02:27:19):
Let's talk a little US Open.

Speaker 7 (02:27:21):
Coco Goff in her round of sixteen, she won her
first set six games to three.

Speaker 6 (02:27:26):
Right now she's tied. Both both her and Wozniaki are tied.
We had two games of peace. I think I got
that one, that one, right, got it.

Speaker 7 (02:27:34):
Ben Shelton, though only twenty years old, has become the
youngest American man to reach the US quarterfinals since Andy
Roddick in two thousand and two.

Speaker 6 (02:27:45):
So they might break the streak this year. They might
actually get there.

Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
I just imagine this.

Speaker 1 (02:27:49):
We haven't had a US player win any Grand Slam
tournament men since Andy Roddick won the Open twenty years ago.

Speaker 7 (02:27:55):
Right, No, and we got we still got Francis Tioffo.

Speaker 2 (02:27:58):
Is still in itself.

Speaker 7 (02:27:59):
He's still there, so hey, this might be the year, guys.
Very exciting and a little NFL news. Yes, Chris Jones
and the Chiefs remain far apart and a deal. He
continues his hold out four days before the Sason starts,
as the Chiefs are going to face the Lions on Thursday.
Head coach Andy Reed just said I don't know when
he's coming or not coming, but he did say that
wide receiver Cadarius Tony, who missed much of camp with

(02:28:22):
a lingering knee issue, is good to go for a
week one, but they are still taking it day by day.

Speaker 6 (02:28:26):
While the Cowboys and right tackle.

Speaker 7 (02:28:28):
Terrence Deel have agreed on a five year, eighty six
point eight million dollar contract extension, fifty million guaranteed.

Speaker 6 (02:28:36):
That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:28:37):
Yeah, Yes, makes me want to stretch these knees, right.

Speaker 6 (02:28:40):
It makes me well, I'll take a hitter.

Speaker 2 (02:28:41):
Too, I'll take it.

Speaker 6 (02:28:43):
I'll take two hits. I can survive that.

Speaker 1 (02:28:45):
Maybe you need to have some rest this week, Yes,
you have your second show, Yes with Alex's next Saturday, Saturday,
next Sunday, and then oh.

Speaker 6 (02:28:55):
Yes, no, that's gonna be a day. That's gonna be
a day. Carrie. I quit like four times last year.

Speaker 2 (02:29:00):
That day was. She was like, come on, this is
get an update.

Speaker 6 (02:29:03):
I was like, I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:29:04):
I've got ten games going on.

Speaker 2 (02:29:05):
You want to do everything? Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:29:07):
It was like, no, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:29:09):
It's a great job today, great weekend for you, and
we look forward to next weekend as well. All right,
let's wrap up very quickly here. We were talking about
the NFC West and we got the two teams that
were on top playoff teams a year ago, the Seahawks
out of nowhere and of course the forty nine ers.
So carry let's talk about the Seahawks for a moment.

(02:29:29):
Obviously an amazing year a year ago. I actually made
my preseason prediction last year that the Seahawks would be
the worst team in the NFL. I just I didn't
see any way around it. I thought, you know, they're
playing for Bryce Young or you know CJ. Stroud with
the two big names, obviously, and so I thought that's
what they were doing.

Speaker 2 (02:29:47):
And then Gino Smith shows up.

Speaker 1 (02:29:49):
So last year they go nine and eight. The over
under this year is eight and a half. So basically
the question do you see them repeating what they did
a year ago.

Speaker 2 (02:30:01):
I love Pete Carroll, great coach. I love the Gino story.
I guess somebody has to finish kind of fringy playoff
in that division, right, So I'll give them. I'll stay
over Well.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
I agree with you because I think, like I said,
I think the Rams and Cardinals will be battling all
year long for the worst team in the NFL. They're bad, yeah,
And because of that, I think Seattle will go at
least nine to eight.

Speaker 2 (02:30:36):
The Gino Smith.

Speaker 1 (02:30:37):
Story is absolutely mind blowing, which brings us the course
of the forty nine ers. So last year, forty nine
Ers obviously had to go through a litany of quarterbacks
throughout the course of the season. Remember they started the
year with Trey Lance and then he got hurt, which
got Garoppolo back in the lineup when they were essentially
trying to get rid of Jimmy Garoppolo.

Speaker 2 (02:30:59):
Garoppolo did thing he won. That's what Jimmy does.

Speaker 1 (02:31:02):
But here's the thing about the Brock Party numbers from
a year ago. If you look at Brock Party's numbers,
they're identical.

Speaker 2 (02:31:07):
To what Garoppolo did last year.

Speaker 1 (02:31:09):
Across the board, completion percentage, touchdown interception ratio. Brock Party
is Jimmy Garoppolo. He is the exact same quarterback in
that offense. Now, the good news is that's the kind
of quarterback that wins for the forty nine ers in
the Kyle Shanahan system.

Speaker 2 (02:31:30):
YEP.

Speaker 1 (02:31:31):
So we preface every one of these predictions by assuming
the quarterback stays healthy. Forty nine Ers over under ten
and a half wins.

Speaker 2 (02:31:42):
Over one hundred percent over the forty nine Ers are
the best team in that division. I know we're going
to talk a little bit later about something a prediction
of mine. Yes, all of those, but the forty nine
Ers definitely over ten. And I believe in that team
a whole lot agree with you. I mean this.

Speaker 1 (02:32:01):
I say this, if you eliminate the quarterback position, which
is a big part of it, but you take the
quarterback out of the equation, I believe the forty nine
ers have the best roster in the NFL. And when
I look at a roster, I'm talking about impact guys, yeah,
on offense.

Speaker 2 (02:32:19):
And defense all over the place.

Speaker 1 (02:32:21):
So when you have a Christian McCaffrey, when you have
a debut Samuel when you have a George Kitto, when
you have a Nick Bosa, when you have when you
have players of this caliber, they can change a game.

Speaker 2 (02:32:31):
Yeah, pull Bowl safeties right, all levels.

Speaker 1 (02:32:35):
This is a better roster minus the quarterback, the deepest roster.
I believe in guys that are impact players. Yeah, in
the National Football League, improven, improving in that part.

Speaker 2 (02:32:49):
There's no question what those guys can do.

Speaker 1 (02:32:52):
I think the one thing that happened with the emergence
of Brock Purty last year is that it brought Kyle
shanahan ego back to ground zero, because the idea of
drafting Trey Lance was if I have a quarterback that
has more physical weapons, I can take my superstar offense

(02:33:13):
to the next level. Yeah, there is no next level.
The idea of this offense is to put the ball
in the hands of the playmakers in the right position. Yes,
and Jimmy Garoppolo could do that, and Brock perty can
do that, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:33:27):
And that's why they will be that all right. On
the other side, we've been waiting all day.

Speaker 1 (02:33:31):
All of the preseason predictions, they're on record now, they're
written down. Who's going to be in the Super Bowl,
who's going to win the Super Bowl, who's going to
be the MVP, who's going to be the worst team
in the NFL, and what is the story none of
us are thinking about going into this NFL season.

Speaker 2 (02:33:50):
Carrie Rhodes will have the answers. Yes, I will coming
up next.

Speaker 1 (02:33:55):
DJ goes out a shotgun on third and goal, keeps
it over right.

Speaker 2 (02:33:58):
Guard it in down Beavers. But there's a pundally flyg out.

Speaker 1 (02:34:02):
Here's the call aside defense number two and the news
is all at the saut that's the hit us.

Speaker 2 (02:34:09):
A climb is all to play as a touchdown, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:34:13):
So that's Mike Parker there from lear Field. Oregon State,
by the way, has scored again. They lead their game
at San Jose State fourteen to three. By the way,
DJ oohi ungula Lay has eight for ten passing eighty
eight yards on the touchdown and he's also run for
a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:34:32):
So there you go. Oohy angle la Lay.

Speaker 1 (02:34:34):
You just want to keep saying the name because o
if you hear it enough, you will get used for
the name. Oui angle la La.

Speaker 6 (02:34:42):
To write it down in my.

Speaker 2 (02:34:43):
Own way, oui unga l Lay, oui aung la la
oohy angla, lay there is Jola. You're playing? Yeah, you
know you're playing a ukulelea exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:34:56):
Then you say layle. You don't OUI anglellay, I say
lay like he's going upstairs and let go upstair.

Speaker 7 (02:35:02):
In Tours a year ago sent me a Texas to
how to say remember that Aaron.

Speaker 2 (02:35:06):
Still doesn't work. Still didn't work.

Speaker 6 (02:35:08):
He wrote it out phonetically for me. I still don't
get it.

Speaker 1 (02:35:11):
No, it's like Tongua bay loa. We figured these names eventually, right, You.

Speaker 2 (02:35:14):
Able to get that one by now?

Speaker 4 (02:35:15):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:35:15):
Got out? Slow it down, Believe me.

Speaker 1 (02:35:17):
I remember when we had to figure out Mike Krzyzewski.
How do you get that out of kraz?

Speaker 2 (02:35:22):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:35:23):
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Iowa sam is still here, yes, still here.

Speaker 2 (02:35:46):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:35:47):
By the way, yesterday Steve de Seger mocked your iowhakeyes
by actually using the word score and iowa in the
same sentence.

Speaker 2 (02:35:54):
Listen, they had a hot first quarter, yeah, and it
was just all slop after that they regressed. That's okay.
They still won. They got that. They did.

Speaker 1 (02:36:02):
But Moncey, of course, brilliant today, brilliant yesterday, and we
get ready for it. It's going to be It's gonna
be a very busy football season on Moncy Belanias, that
is for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:36:14):
And here he is.

Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
Amanda went on the record by picking the Dallas Cowboys
to win the NFC year man. Yeah, and I will
of course you put it down in writing. I know
there is well bo Is, our brilliant producer, and he'll
be rooting Eagles, but he's thinking Cowboys. Sometimes it's reverse psychology.

Speaker 2 (02:36:32):
I know how it works.

Speaker 4 (02:36:33):
I get this all see you get it.

Speaker 10 (02:36:35):
I do.

Speaker 1 (02:36:35):
I do it all the time, which brings us to
this carry. Rhodes has also entered in his predictions for
the upcoming NFL season. So let's run down the list.
I'm gonna start with worst team in the NFL who
did you put down as this year's worst team in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:36:55):
The Worst Team of the Year award goes to the
Arizona Cardinals. And you were close to convincing me otherwise, Yes,
you know, with with the Rams, but I'm gonna say Cardinals,
they're not gonna be good at all.

Speaker 1 (02:37:10):
All right, So the Arizona Cardinals, you're really going out
on a limb on that one.

Speaker 3 (02:37:14):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
What was your sort of wild card story that's gonna
happen this year that no one's really talking about in
the NFL?

Speaker 2 (02:37:21):
The wild card story is from a team that has
a great tradition, great history. You know, a lot of
leaping goals on in that's in that stadium, and you know,
they just lost the Hall of Fame quarterback and they
probably are gonna think most people think they gonna be bad.
Yeah I do, yes, but I think they're gonna possibly

(02:37:44):
sneak in the playoffs and wow, have a chance to
do some damage. And that's the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (02:37:49):
Somebody's got to step up. Why not the Packers. We'll
see if Jordan Love can get it done. Who is
your league MVP? My league MVP.

Speaker 2 (02:37:57):
Goes to a guy that just left that said franchise
and has a new place in the Big Apple. And
he's going to get a lot of attention. Wow. And
that team's going to have a really good chance to
do some good things. And I'm going to say, Aaron
Rodgers comes back and is this league's MVP.

Speaker 1 (02:38:15):
Wow, Aaron Rodgers IVY like me? Now, Steve, all right,
how do you like me? Now? So who is going
to be the NFC representative in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (02:38:29):
The NFC representative is going to be a team that
we talked about a little bit earlier, has all the components.
They have really good players on all levels, and they
have a guy that was myster irrelevant last year that's
going to have a chance to step into those shoes
and lead his team to glory. I'm going to say
the San Francisco forty nine ers are your NFC champions.
By the way, both's throwing up right now. I mean

(02:38:52):
literally he's barfing up. Yah, yes he is. He hates
literally almost threw up. That's not like a little I
mean that.

Speaker 4 (02:39:02):
Is a full hate is a strong word, but in
this case it's applicable.

Speaker 1 (02:39:06):
I was going to say, all right, so that leaves
us well, we've got two more things. Who will be
the AFC representative in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (02:39:14):
The AFC one was hard for me. It's so many
good teams, so many brilliant stories that are going to
take place throughout the season. The one that holds really
near and dear to my heart is a team that
I actually played for, and I see all the things
coming together for a brilliant story book season. I'm gonna

(02:39:37):
go j E t Et Jets. Jets, Jets are going
to be the AFC Wow Tampio.

Speaker 1 (02:39:44):
So one of your former teams is in the Super Bowl.
The other is the worst team in the league, which
goes to this winning the Super Bowl? Your matchup between
the Jets and the forty nine ers, who will be
hoisting the Lombardi Trophy.

Speaker 2 (02:39:59):
Roads long time since you saw that finger wave going
on across the waves from my guy Joe Namath. He's
gonna the Joe, the ghost of Joe Namath is gonna
be present, His energy is gonna be there. Aaron Rodgers
is gonna be the one to bring those guys over
the top. The Jets are gonna win it. Jets are
gonna win the Super Bowl. Steve Okay, I need to

(02:40:20):
clear my head right now. What just happened? This is
fun sports radio.

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