Steve Hartman and Kerry Rhodes talk NCAA action and more!

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should be. Caro Rhads in the house today and first
of all, Happy Easter to you, Carrie, Happy Easter to you,
Steve Yes. So on this Easter Sunday, of course, we're
getting ready to fill out the final two slots in
the Final four. On the men's side, we're definitely gonna
get into the big matchup tomorrow on the ladies side,

(00:46):
the rematch between LSU and IOWA on which one of
those two teams gets to the Final four. But I
want to say this at the start, you're listening to
two guys that really know their stuff. And I'm gonna
say that because we've had this bracket challenge here at
Fox Sports Radio, many of you out there participating in it,

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and we had thirty two on air people here at
Fox Sports Radio fill in brackets. As we sit here
right now, I'm alone in third place and you are
tied for fourth place right behind you. Huh at A
thirty two? Nice? Okay, I think Covino and Jason Smith

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are the only guys ahead of us. So I'm looking
at your bracket to see and then I'm like, I
got some points on you, well, possibles. You're a duke guy.
This I do not understand you. You went to Louisville,
which is one of the great basketball schools of all times,
multiple national championships, and I do count that last one

(01:53):
that Patino won, Yes, it counts. And yet you're not
a Louisville basketball fan like you are a Duke die Hard.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I am Duke die Hard through and through, and it
only it stems from just my childhood, Steve. I moved
around a lot and ended up in Alabama, right, and
so the basketball team there wasn't one that I was
highly eager to see at the time. And so I
saw this fundamental team that had really great players and
a coach that looked like the mascot, and I was like,

(02:23):
I like that, And I've just been I've been a
duchy ever since.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I had such a dilemma the other night. So in
my bracket I had Duke getting to the Elite eight.
I didn't have him beating Houston. I actually had Houston
getting upset earlier. So now I'm watching this Duke Houston
game and I need Duke to win. You came to
the dark side, I am telling you. I'm watching this

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game thinking to myself, this is the first time I've
ever rooted for Duke to win a game. And it
was so hard for me against them while rooting for
them at the same time. And Duke one, which was
good for my brackets. I can't stand Duke. Why tell
me why. I'm gonna show you what. There was a

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play in the game against Houston. I mean, Houston's problem
is they can't shoot, they can't score, and of course
their top player goes down with an injury, so that
doesn't help them. So it's laid in the game. Duke
has got a two point lead and they have the
ball and they throw it to Philipowski and this guy
he's pushing with the elbow, defensive guys on him, pushing twice,

(03:35):
then leans into the guy to bump the guy hands
in the air throws it up and in plus one
and I'm like, okay, come on, I mean that is
that is not a defensive foul. That is an offensive
foul that was missed not once, not twice, but three times.

(03:57):
I just can't stand see if you.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Go to that one place, but that game, Houston was
beating Duke's butt all games, super aggressive, fouling, getting away
with it. The rest were letting them play. They were
letting them play. It's not even that they were getting
away with it. I'll say they were letting them play.
So then you know the offensive guy trying to clear
a little space to make a shot, like you got

(04:19):
to give it to him. And then the end part
of it, the guy reached down and slapped him on
the file. It's a file, Steve. We got the end one.
It was a big bucket for us and gave us
a little cushion. I can't stay.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I just I you know, so anyway, I don't have
to root for Duke today. That'll be the second game.
We had two very interesting matchups today on the men's side.
Of course. Yesterday I'm sitting here with Monsey during our
show and we had the Yukon Illinois game on and
it's halftime and it's a five point game, so I'm
we're getting into another subject matter. It was twenty eight

(04:53):
to twenty three at half Yukon, and I look up
at the TV here in our studio and it's now
fifty three to twenty three, twenty five to nothing. To
start the second half. It was a thirty zero run. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Continuing from the first half, it was twenty three to
twenty three at one point.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Twenty five to nothing to start the second half. I
was like, Okay. Yukon now has won ten consecutive tournament
games over the last two years, winning each game by
at least thirteen points. No team, not even UCLA in
their heyday with Kareem or with Bill Walden, ever did that.

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Brian Dutcher, the San Diego State basketball coach before their
blowout loss, had already been calling it the Yukon Invitational,
Like I was wrong. I before the and by the way,
I picked Yukon to win it. Yeah, in my bracket,
I played it safe. But the odds were against them. Course,
I mean the last six years the defending champions had

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not even made it to the sweet sixteen.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I know, Yeah, this this team has been dominant, man,
and and it's it's not even been close. It was
a statistic yesterday that I saw that every one of
their games this tournament so far, they've been aheit at
least thirty points during that game at some point.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's just that's ridiculous. No, no team's ever done this,
No team has ever done this. So you just sit
there watching Yukon. And then we had the game yesterday
with Alabama and Clemson, and I'm thinking Alabama, Clempson, that's football, right,
I mean, neither one of these schools had ever been

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to a Final four. And I always think back, like
how much did they really care at Alabama or Clemson
about basketball? Right? Because I remember in O seven, Florida
won their second straight national championship in basketball, and I
was down in Atlanta. I was at the championship game
they beat Ohio State, and I remember walking out of

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that game with all these Gator fans and I'm sort
of listening in like they gotta be pumped. I mean,
back to back national championships are like, man, can't wait
for Tebow? Can't wait for Tebow. I mean it was
Tibo tibo at that he was coming off his freshman
year where he had backed up Chris Leak and now
he's gonna be the starting quarterback. Of course he would
go on to win the Heisman. Trop dead that's all
they wanted to talk about. Nobody was talking about that.

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So I'm sure Alabama fans are sort of like shaking
their head, like, we have a basketball team.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
We got a basketball team now, and they got a
really good basketball team. And to be honest, after watching
them play and the players that they have and the
ability that they have to score the ball, I'm really
intrigued in Alabama.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
DW. Kond of Game, Well, think about this. Alabama's the
number one scoring team in the country. Yes, they also
they're three hundred and sixty two Division one schools. They're
three hundred and fifty six in defense. So I mean
this is old school stuff. I mean, they're just out there.
We're gonna We're gonna go full throttle and hope that
we outscore our opponent. That is their game, which is

(08:02):
going to be interesting now that we know they'll be
matched up against Ucon.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
It is It's like one of those things you have
a puncher's chance when you can score the way they
score the ball.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
You got nothing to lose. No one in the world
things that nobody Alabama's gonna even hang for a half
against ucon exactly. But when you have the mindset of
a scorer, you really have no conscience, right, You just
throw it up and if it goes in, it goes in.
What do we have to lose.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
We can score and we know on our best day
we can out score you. And that's the beauty of
the tournament. Steve Carrie, don't have to be the best team.
You's got to be the best team that day. I'll
never forget this.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So back in nineteen ninety was the year that Hankathers
dies at Loyola Marrimount, and of course they were the
highest scoring team not just that year but in the
history of division in basketball. So they go to the
tournament anyway, they're seeding obviously without Gatherers to drop to
an eleven seed, and in the second round they played
the defending champion Michigan. They didn't have Glenn Rice, but

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everyone else was pretty much back from their championship team.
And I'm at this game, it's at the Long Beach Arena.
To go to a second round game, ye final score.
This is a forty minute game. Loyola one forty nine,
Michigan won fifteen one forty nine, one forty nine, one fifteen.
Now think about that. That's two hundred and sixty four

(09:22):
points in a forty minute game, and you're like, how
is that even possible? As an eyewitness to the game,
First of all, Michigan had no fear, figuring we just
have better players than Loyola Merrymount, so if you want
to run, we'll run with you. That was a mistake
and basically the way Loyola had Paul West said as
their coach, they ran as soon as they crossed half court,

(09:43):
they threw the ball. They're just firing threes. They had
a guy named Jeff fry or Bo Kimmel was a
great score, but Jeff Fryar, this guy was just raining
in thirty footers like all over the place. It is,
It is and will always be the highest scoring game
in the HIT three the NC Tournament one forty nine fifteen.

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So getting back to Alabama Yukon, that's pretty much what
the mindset has to be for Alabama. They just got
to come out and just fire away and hope they
can knock down as many threes as possible one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
And to piggyback off the stat of the defensive stat first,
where you said they three fifty two out of three,
three fifty six out of three, six fifty six. They've
played better defense in this tournament and that's why they
have advanced. Obviously, we know that they're their gunslingers. They're
going to shoot the ball, they're going to score, but
they've actually tried on the defensive end. So I'm gonna
give them a really punches, a really good punchers chance

(10:37):
to make this a really good game and talk about
the Loyola Marymount stuff. Was that the game boll Kimbell's
out the left hand free throw?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes, got it? Yeah, he did that at least once
throughout the tournament. They then went to the sweet sixteen
one against I think it was Alabama who slowed It
was like sixty two sixty Like Alabama says no, no, no,
And then unfortunately they ran into that great UNLV team
that would go into win the national championship, and they
just could match the firepower. It was a magical run.
But that's that's the beauty of this tournament. Who could

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have picked Alabama right to get to the final four.
But for the first time ever, the Crimson Tide are
there all right. Coming up on the other shot, We're
gonna get you ready for the games today. First up
the one seed Purdue versus the two seed Tennessee and
then the acc battle between Duke and NC State. This

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and you see the show posted right after we get
off the air. So by days and the final four
on the men's side will be set and the first
game is kick tipping off right now. Tennessee and Purdue.
Now I need Tennessee in this game because I had
Tennessee in my championship game. Oh wow, Okay, I did
not like what I saw from Rick Barneson company in

(13:01):
the last game. They hung on late in that game.
And then there's Purdue. I had Purdue going out like
they always do, fairly early. And I'm a little nervous
though about destiny. I'll tell you why, because Clemson made

(13:22):
it to the Elite Eight for the first time since
nineteen eighty and then lost Alabama and Purdue that year.
In nineteen eighty is the last time Purdue went to
the Final four. Gen Katie, No, who was that. It
was a guy named Lee Rose who was the predecessor

(13:42):
to Gene Katie. Now Lee Rose, you remember Cornbread Maxwell
with the Celtics. He went to UNC Charlotte. They got
to the final four in nineteen seventy seven, three years
before that, and the coach was Lee Rose, who then
went to Purdue. And then he left and genk he
took over. Jean Katy never got to the final He
never got there. Wow, never once, only twice did he

(14:05):
get to the Elite A. But here you have Zach Edy.
And what's amazing is that Purdue team had the best
big man in the country named Joe Barry Carroll and
they got to the Final four. And here's here's the
interesting note. I was sports editor of the Daily Bruin
at UCLA. We beat Clemson in the Elite eight and

(14:28):
then beat Purdue in the Final four. So I'm thinking
about is there symmetry there where Clemson goes out in
the Elite eight and Purdue goes out in the Final four.
So I want to hear I want to hear your
breakdown of this Tennessee Purdue matchup. I need Tennessee in
my brackets. How much should I fear Purdue in this game?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
You should fear Purdue a lot this game only because
it's it's a little bit of what you're saying right now.
I believe that you got you have to fail in
this tournament to succeed. They failed miserably for a long time.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean last year obviously, losing to a sixteen.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Sit exactly for that to happen crazy obviously, But this
team has been through it. A lot of these guys
are back from that team. It reminds me a little
bit of that Virginia team the year they lost in
the first round, Yeah, won sixteen. The next year they
came back, they won it all, won it all. It
gives me that feel here. Obviously, Tennessee had Dalton connect
who just scores here, to give them a different look Offensively.

(15:28):
We know they're tough, defensively, we know they're going to
be physical, but now they have an elite scorer here,
so they have a chance. I just believe in purduing
their wings and just in the failure they had last year,
they're going to bounce back and I really see them
passing to the final four.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yere game just underway to two right now, and I
see Purdue working the ball into Zach Edy, of course,
is expected to be the first back to back winner
of the Wooden Awards since Ralph Sampson way back in
the day. Projections still have Zach Eddy at best as
a middle second round pick in the NBA. See here's
here's what I quite get, all right. The thing about

(16:03):
Zach Edy is is that each year he's getting better,
he's adding stuff to his game. And I understand he's
not going to be camped out of the three point
line like we see all these big men nowadays. And
know he's not a woman Yama or anything close to that,
but you gotta feel like a man as big as
Zach Edy is that you there is a way to use.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Him in the NBA for sure, right Yeah, yeah, No,
he reminds me of I know this. When you hear
this name, you don't think of him as a really
good basketball player. We just think of him as a
big guy. But Maryanovich, who plays in Houston, now, yeah,
well played in Dallas. I saw him a lot in Dallas.
He's so tall, he's a defensive liability the way the

(16:44):
game is played now. But in those playoff series Dallas
against the Clippers. He played more than Porzingis in that
series because he was a weapon. You can actually use
him in the post, limit him. You can put him
in drop coverage in different levels of the game where
maybe there's a non shoot at the five and he
can go down there and he can score automatically. I

(17:06):
see Zach Edy that way, but also see Zach Edy
being able to move a little bit better than boban
now and I think that's why he came back to
improve on some of those things.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Think about this, if you're if you're watching an NBA
game and everybody's camped at at the three point line, right,
doesn't it make sense to you that if you have
a strong post player set up in the post, punish
him right for sure. Because everybody else defensively is out
on the perimeter guarding the three point line. You're creating

(17:36):
a one on one situation with a strong post player.
And if he has a good post game, which Zach
Edy has improved each year that he's been at Purdue,
no one's going to be able to take him on
one on one. No.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's it's just like I said, it's one of those
things where you don't have to play to the other
team's strengths, Like you can go into a game and
have a mindset that we're gonna punish she winside and
we know he can do that. That's a proven thing.
And if most of these teams are playing small ball
basketball and they're having an off day shooting at three

(18:11):
and you're scoring twos, you're gonna win the game. So
I see a place for him. I think he's gonna
get drafted, obviously, and he will be. You know, he
reminds me of a smaller version of this. He was
a small guard, won two championships at Villanova. Nobody really
thought that he was going to be anything at the
NBA more than a backup point guard. And now he's
scored sixty sixty one points the other day Jalen Bronson.

(18:33):
So you know the older guys and the guys that
you overlooked that you think the Silliness College college for
those guys. Those guys can come out and play well
in the NBA as well.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Well.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Kerry, you know as well as I do. When it
comes to professional sports, right place, right time, right system,
and if you work somebody into your system and actually
identify what it is they do best, and then this
is a novel idea, put them in a position to succeed. Coach, Wow,

(19:03):
how about that, can you coach? Yeah? Yeah? For years,
Bella Chick and the Patriots did that better than anybody
else on the NFL side. All right, So after that, Okay.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Here we go, Come on, baby, let's go.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I must see State Duke. All right, So, speaking of
teams of destiny, you mentioned the fact that, you know,
we had the Virginia where they lose in the first
round to a sixteen seed first time ever, and then
the next year win a national championship. WELLENC State repeated
what that Yukon team did back in twenty eleven in
their Big East tournament. They had to win five games

(19:34):
and five nights to get into the tournament and then
ran the table with Kemba Walker and company to win
a national championship NC State. I mean, just again, think
about this, five games in five nights crazy? I mean,
I mean, well, they're young, guys. I don't care how

(19:54):
young you are when you are in a must win situation. Yes,
five consecutive nights. His NC State was an outside the
bubble team. They needed to run the table to guarantee
a slot in the NCAA tournament. So when you add
up the pressure of having to win on top of

(20:17):
the fatigue factor, can you even imagine gear? I mean,
you played some hoops. Yeah, five games and five nights,
highest intensity, best teams in the ACC, one night after another,
and to run the table in five in a row
is mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's mind blowing. It's crazy the anxiety that comes from that.
I mean, on top of physically being tired, it's the
mental part of it, right, where obviously we know that
the pressure of us winning this tournament is a must,
and so you got to go out and execute. You're
mentally exhausted. But to get to that point and then
you have like a little break right going into the tournament.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
So they got a few days, not much though, I
mean through the first round they won seven games in
twelve days. That's right, exactly what seven games in twelve days?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
So that that loom's kind of good for us, right
and Duke.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Right, Well, I don't know. I mean, like I said, look,
Duke has more talent than NC State. For sure, Duke
should win this game. Don't think so State? That seems
should I mean right, I mean it's a rival, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
You know, this one more thing before we move on
from that is that NC State team. You know what
that reminds me of as well. They had to do
that the year they won a championship.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's exactly what they did in eighty three. They had
to win the ACC tournament to get into the tournament
and and you know, and they dodged. It's always amazing
to me. And in that nineteen eighty three run for
NC State, their first round opponent was Pepperdine, that's right,
coach by Jim Herrick, who would then later coach UCLA
to a national championship. And if I'm not mistaken, Pepperdine

(21:54):
was up like six with a minute to go in
regulation with no shot clock, no shot clock, no three
point line, exactly crazy, no shot clock, no three point line,
and NC State forced it overtime and won in double
overtime that first game. I talked to your coach hereck
many times. He goes, Steve, you know we shouldn't have eliminated.

(22:15):
No one even talk about Valvano if it wasn't for me.
And the how do you blow a game with no
shot clock and no three point shot. How is that
even possible?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Well, you know, the crazy part about that game was
just you talk about coaching. Jim Valvano had, you know,
crazy guts and crazy instincts in that moment to you know,
obviously you have to file. It's not like it's a
far thing to think of. You have to file in
a situation. But he files the guy. Both of the
free throw shooters that went to the line were eighty

(22:44):
percent or better. And the first one misses the one
and one second one comes in and misses it one
and one again, and then the game's tied all of
a sudden. This is you talk about destiny. That's that's
destiny stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well, and that's what we're talking about it. So the
thing about knowing history is history can repeat itself. So
is this going to be a repeated history for NC State?
By the way, they have not been to the final
four since that championship run back in nineteen eighty three.
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
And I'm sorry we're too sitting where Carrie is just yesterday.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I know it's stay ja vu, yes, hi fella, I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
At you right now with the two lights here, it
looks like mini mouse is that's the way they're sitting
up in the thing.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Well, it's better than when they block my view completely
because sometimes I'm talking through the lights. So it's good
that I can see both of your lovely faces on
this Sunday.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
So, Manci, you and I both picked Clempson yesterday, did yeah?

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, No, that was not our best choice.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
No, fuck, I need Tennessee. But this this is going
to be a big game today against Purdue.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Yes, I do have Tennessee also advancing here. I do
I do in my bracket. I mean, I don't think
I have any I don't think I can win in
the bracket.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
I think I'm pretty low now, but I do have
Tennessee and right now, though Tennessee, it's very early losing
to one seed produce ten, nine to fifteen over fifteen
minutes to go in the first quarter. But we're gonna
move on to the ladies side because the team that
has not lost this year, South Carolina has extended their
lead over third seed Oregon State.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
This is also the Elite eight.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
South Carolina up fifty five to forty one with about
ninety seconds to go in the third quarter. South Carolina
has upscored Oregon State in the third quarter eighteen to eight.
So this is when they've pulled away because they know
what they're doing. A lot of baseball going on, fellas
the Angels might might win their first.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Game of the season.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
They're up on the Orioles four to one, top of
the fourth inning in Baltimore. The Braves just added another run.
They're up on the Phillies three to one. Top of
the fourth inning. Colin Schwarber is that solo shot for
the Phillies on the scoreboard.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
The Brewers are up on the Mets in New York
two to one, top of the third inning.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
For the Marlins, Jazz Chisholm Junior with a grand slam
in the first inning, but the Pirates are on the scoreboard.
Miami up five to three. They're about to start the
bottom of the third inning. The Blue Jays beating the
Raisin in Tampa four to one. They're about to start
the bottom of the third as well. The Reds of
taking the lead over the Nationals two to one top
of the fourth Tigers White Sox scoreless.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Bottom of the second. The Royals just got.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
On the scoreboard and they're up on the Twins three zero,
top of the second somebody just hit a home run
for the Yankees. That's right, you guys. Yankees on the
scoreboard against the Astros for sure? Or was it at Oh,
he just dropped it, that's what it was a mistake
by the Astros.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
That's what it was. Ha ha ha okay. Yankees up
one zero, top of the second inning.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
And Dallas Morning News reports that police are searching for
Kansas City Chiefs Receiver Rashi Rice in connection with the
six vehicle crash that occurred Saturday night in Dallas. Police
told the newspaper that a Corvette and Lamborghini were both speeding,
lost control caused the chain reaction collision involving four other vehicles,
and they.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Believe Rice was the driver of the core. Vet Back
to you, guys, it's.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Amazing you mentioned speeding. We were talking about this. I
was talking with VJ and with Mark about the idea
of owning a really fast car and where exactly do
you speed?

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Can you?

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Like?

Speaker 6 (26:09):
Yeah, I mean you got to take it to like
a race track. It's Arizona, Arizona.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean it just it's not practical at all. It's
a nice show car, but but you're you're out on
the freeway and you want to use.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
This, right, Steve, I did that once. I had an
Aston Martin. I got rid of it because I don't
need it, exactly what you're saying. Yeah, and I did it.
I tested it once in Phoenix and went really fast,
and it was that was it car? What did you have,
Mason Martin?

Speaker 6 (26:36):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
You don't know what that is, right, A really fast car,
is it?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
And that was what Steve's talking about. I was like,
I'm going to try this. Yeah, you get it fast
once and I'm like, I probably shouldn't do that again.
It right, But I don't get it. But we see
these stories all the time. Fortunately no one hurt.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's good exactly. That's where it gets scary. By the way,
Tennessee now is taking a seventeen to twelve lead over
Purdue right.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Now, and Connect is going crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Connect he's one of those guys that you know, first
team All American for Tennessee. He's got ten points already,
Zach Edy has six, and so Tennessee with seventeen to
twelve lead right now over Purdue. All right, I want
to jump very quickly over to the lady's side. Right
down South Carolina, you know, continuing their undefeated run. They're

(27:29):
taking on Oregon State, and they got a twelve point
lead with a minute a half to go in the
third quarter. By the way, I have to say this,
and I'm curious from your state. Basketball is played in
quarters at every single level except for men's college basketball,
and they still maintain halves, halves versus quarters.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Your thoughts, Oh, quarters, for sure, it's just the way
it's played.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I mean there is an argument about halves. This sort
of continues to flow, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yes, but I'm a quarters guy, and give that extra
file too, you do?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah? Why is it five? Make it six?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Make We want to see the star players play. Obviously,
if you're fouling, it's part of the game, and it's
part of strategy a lot of times as well. But
let those guys play, and I want to see the
stars play.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Is there not a rule that you can keep a
guy in a game with five fouls? But I mean
there should be a rule, like I don't know if
there is or not, but keeping a guy in the
game with five fouls and if he gets another foul,
there's like a technical maybe attached to it or something
to keep him in the game.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I don't there's not now because I mean, obviously foul
out you can, you can start.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
The game before. But I would say, look, if you
want to keep the guy in the court with five fouls, fine,
But if he commits another foul, it's the foul plus
the technical, which also means possession for the other team.
That would be interesting. But I mean it's a penalty, right,
I mean, it's a bigger penalty if you want to
keeping in the game. But we are looking forward to

(29:03):
I can't imagine what the numbers are going to look
like for this LSU Iowa game tomorrow. I can't wait.
It's on a Monday. You know, there's not going to
be a lot of competition against it. It's going to
be a standalone game. I mean there's another game obviously,
but this the intrigue in this matchup. And by the way,

(29:25):
I don't know how closely you followed what happened with
Kim Molke and me and she she went after the
New York Post, but it was the La Times article
by Ben Boltz that really set her on fire. He
did a preview of the game. He covers UCLA Sports.
He talked about good versus evil, He talked about debutantes,
the dean debutants. I mean, he was taking personal shots

(29:48):
and she's like, look, I'm fair game, I'm a coach. Yeah,
but when you start going after eighteen, nineteen twenty year
old girls to talk about their character, she goes, that's
where I have to draw the line. And when I'm
thinking about this LSU women's team, you know what I'm
reminded of. I'm reminded of the U back in the
day in the eighties, when the U emerged and they

(30:11):
were suddenly dominating, had literally come out of nowhere, and
they were doing it in a different style, Bragadosa's way
that was offensive to a lot of people, and they
thrived off of it, and they also used it for
an intimidation factor. Yes, and I feel like it's not
that these are bad young ladies in any way, but

(30:32):
they're playing the game in an intimidating way. I mean
what they did to UCLA yesterday, I mean it was
a close game. UCLA actually had a lead and then
down the stretch man, LSU just blew the doors off
the game, and they were trash talking and the whole shebang.
I mean, some of the UCLA players grudgingly gave LSU credit,
but you could tell they were seething the way LSU

(30:53):
conducted themselves. But you have that intimidation factor, and that's
what I'm looking at here, and I cannot wait to
see after the way LSU blew out Iowa in that
championship game a year ago, what they're going to try
to do tomorrow night against Caitlin Clark and company.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, the other team that you're going to add to that.
Obviously you went the collegiate route, but you can go
to bad boys route, right, go Detroit Pistons shirt intimidation.
Nobody really liked their star player, right, Nobody really likes
LSU star players at this moment, right, So you have
that kind of synergy going on. But yeah, I want
to know why people nationally hate them, Like how did

(31:31):
they become that way? I mean, obviously the bragg of
doses approach, and I guess I don't want to use
the word flamboyant and in this setting, but it's like
a it's just it's a brag of doses. It's a
different way of doing it right, and so why do
people not like that now?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, I mean part of it is having success. Yes,
when you start winning as the you did back in
the day or the Pistons. You know, I was when
you mentioned the Pistons, I always have to last because
you know, the Pistons dynasty was at the Lakers expense.
And then pat Riley goes to the Knicks and he
creates the Pistons on steroids, Like I mean, you thought

(32:07):
the Pistons are bad boys, Anthony Mason, John Stark Oakley.
I mean that team took it to a whole different level.
So he recognized, Okay, I don't may have the most
talented team, but we can be the most intimidating team. Exactly. No,
I think a lot of it just has to do
with success. And it's also a reflection on Kim Moulki.

(32:28):
I mean, for all the talk that Mulki has a
strain relationship with her players, or she's this, or that
they are a mirror image of their head.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Coach, they are.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
That's who they are. They reflect the personality of their
head coach.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
If you think about that, if the head coach was
against that approach, it would not be on display right,
very simple at the college level especially, and that's why teams.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Reflect the personality of their coaches.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's my point, Like why are we mad at the girls?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Like they're winning, they're really good, they're marketable, they're profitable,
they're making money on their own as players. It's like,
don't you want your daughter to do that as well
and be that confident in who they are?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
So I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm just more I'm and I'm just in big anticipation
for this game. I think the quality of the game
is going to be really good and the storylines, so
I want to see it.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I dare say it will be the most watched women's
basketball game.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Ever ever, ever, Yeah, I mean yeah, who else would it?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know? I don't know. Did you see the Cannas
Parker documentary Unapologetic. It's on ESPN right now. It's a
great feature piece. I've been a big fan of her
since her Tennessee days, and it has everything her personal
life and her game and everything else still playing, you know,
in the WNBA. But one thing they said, and it's
so true. For whatever the reason may be, we've had

(33:57):
a lot of women who have become household names through
the collegiate ranks and then they go to the w
NBA and we sort of like forget about him for sure.
You know, I don't think Caitlyn Clark's going to be
any different. I really don't. By the way, speaking of
Caitlin Clark, one another quick note here, So ice Cube,
my fellow Tafty is talking about her in the three

(34:19):
on three you know league, and I thought, Kenny Martin
some other guys said no, no, that's not a good idea.
First of all, in a half court game three and three,
there's nowhere to hide. She'll never get a shot off. No,
And if you're one of the people handling her as
hot a commodity as she is, that's a big no.

(34:41):
You don't want to You don't want to put her
in a position where she's not going to be able
to succeed. I mean, I know that ice Cube was
talking about Nancy Lieberman and Lisa Leslie coaching. Well, that's
a lot different than being on the coach against you know,
NBA players. Yeah, yeah, we.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Definitely got to visit that more because that it's that
topics something I want to talk.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
About all right, on the other side. We'll get into
that as well. We'll keep you updated, obviously on everything
going on as we march sorted the final four. This
is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin and Carrie Roads. Here
Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the tirag dot
com studios. See Carrie the thing about hanging out with me,
it's like a like a history book. I love it.
Open up because you were a little confused. When NZ

(35:24):
State won their last national championship. They had a run
to win the ACC championship. And during that ACC tournament
they had a three point line exactly, but that was
an ACC tournament thing only, and they had it during
the regular season. The NCAA tournament did not have a
three point line to eighty seven, when a young Rick

(35:44):
Patino led a Providence team with their guard name Billy
Donovan all the way to the final four, firing up
threes the first year they actually allowed to. So not
only did NZ State win the national championship, but they
took away their biggest weapon during the tournament by eliminating
the three point shots.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
And that's what was crazy. Off air were saying. I
was like, the three point line was eighty three, right,
And I was like, but I remember seeing the tournament
and I remember seeing that documentary and they were shooting
threes during the acc play.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
But that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, So that was a team of destiny. Will see
if this year's NC State team is the same. All right.
So we were talking about the three on three league
here and the idea of offering Kaitlin Clark five million
dollars ice Cube doing a great job promoting in this league,
and then immediately some NBA players said, that's not a
good idea. No, no, yeah, I mean, you don't want

(36:38):
to put her in a bad light. And it's no
knock on her skill set, but in a three on three,
you're in a half court game, and if they're on you,
she's just not going to be able to match up.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, And they're physically they're going to try to intimidate her.
They're not going to be the one that wants to
be scored on by Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
That's just part of what it is.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
And obviously they're bringing her in and I'm sure the
money that they're talking about offering her is more than
they are making. So it's gonna be super personal. And
she I don't think she would want that, and we
talked about it off air. I don't think her people
managing her or behind her would want that either.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
First of all, she's gonna make way more than five
million dollars in endorsements, probably already. She is right, And no,
I mean, look at no, this gets back to the
whole separation of men and women and allow them to
excel in their own individual sports. And sure, you know
one thing that's really upset me about this Caitlin Clark's

(37:36):
story this year is they just keep making these comparisons
to Pete Maravich and Steph Curry. I saw a stat
the other day that I thought was a really good
stat for her. So in their last game, she had
at least twenty five points, five rebounds, and five assists.
It was the sixty fifth game in her collegiate career

(37:57):
where she had a twenty five to five to five game,
the second most for any woman in collegiate history. And
that twenty five to five to five club is sixteen.
She's done it sixty five times, so you didn't have
to bring in a man's name to make a comparison. This,
to me shows her dominance in the women's game in

(38:18):
her sport. That's all we that's in her sport. That's
I love how you always say that. Carry. Yeah, that's
her sport, her sport, women's basketball.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Hundred percent, and nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that.
That's a beautiful thing to see the girls compete at
a level that they are right now and actually getting
recognized for it. So it's a good thing. Stop trying
to pit them against the man's game or men players
individual It doesn't it. It doesn't even serve them any
perfect purpose.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
It does not. In fact, when you think about it,
Nate Smith invented the game of basketball in the year
eighteen ninety one. The first women's game was played in
eighteen ninety three. Really, so, I mean, and this is
peachbackets the basket stuff where you threw it in the
basket and they have to take it out of the
basket and it's one point. I mean, what however you're
playing it? Uh? In fact, they used to have a

(39:04):
center jump after every single basket down the game. But no,
the women's game has been around as long as the
man's game, and it can stand on it own and
you don't have to somehow justify records or amplify records
by comparing to the men. Caitlin Clark is an exciting star.

(39:26):
She is the most She is the biggest star of
the women's game has ever had in terms of people
wanting to see her play.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Question, yes, is she the greatest women's basketball players?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I will still say the best. The best women's basketball
player I have ever seen is Cheryl Miller. I ever, oh, yeah,
I know. And I say this a little bit because
I got a friendship with show Well, she went to
u c l A. I mean, Reggie went to UCLA,
but Cheryl Miller went to USC But I got to
know Cheryl Miller and she's a sweetheart and I love

(40:01):
her very much. But I saw her play and to me,
her game is the best game. I mean, there's been
a lot of Cheryl swoops is great. I've always been
a Candas Parker fan. There's a lot of great women players,
but to me, the best women's basketball player I've ever
seen a Cheryl Mold.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
I gotta throw in Diana Tarassi there.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Well, her longevity is amazing. I mean Sue Byrd obviously
he's had a very long career as well, but just
Diana Tarassi's approach and mentality. Obviously that's my time. So
I saw that and you saw Cheryl, which makes sense.
But yes, Diana, Dana was a cold blooded, cold blooded girl. Yeah,
really good, Yeah, she really really is. All right. Coming
up in the other show, we actually have some NFL news.
We're gonna get to. Oh yeah, who did some favors

(40:43):
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All right, So Tennessee leads Purdue now thirty two to
twenty five, make that thirty two to twenty seven. Got
a little under four minutes to go in the first
half of that game. So the two seed Tennessee a
team I need in my brackets right now. With a
five point lead after going ice cold, suddenly Tennessee is
heated up, and I get a sense this man is

(41:30):
probably going to go down to the wire.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, Purdue's making a run now. They were down by eleven.
They've scored six in a row here and starting to
fight back like a one seed shaft.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, well, I mean again, Purdue trying to rebound from
obviously last year's disaster losing to the first round is
a number one seed. Only second time that ever happened.
Of course, the last time that happened, the team Virginia
ended up winning the national championship the next year. All right,
I want to get into some NFL news because we
are now less than a month away from the NFL Draft,

(42:01):
and you know how this works now, Carrie. So whether
it's teams leaking out information or agents leaking out information,
suddenly you go from pretty steady mock drafts where you're
getting a lot of information and you're beginning to settle

(42:22):
in on where certain players are going to go or
what teams are trying to move up in all this
gets and then all hell breaks us. Remember last year?
So last year we're sitting there with Carolina with the
number one pick, and the question is do you go
Bryce YOUNGO CJ. Strout And the last time we had
seen CJ. Stroud. He had that incredible game against Georgia,

(42:44):
which Ohio State lost, but he never looked better than
in that game. So I remember watching that game. While
I knew CJ. Straut was good, I didn't know he
was that good. But as we came to the draft,
all of a sudden, you know what, the one score,
you know, and all this and his name is falling,
and Will levis like Houston at number two. And then

(43:07):
once we decide, all right, Carolina seems pretty well set
on Bryce Young. Yeah, look out man, Houston Texans are
gonna go with Will Levis number two, and c J.
Stroud is in a free fall. Will Anderson's inn a
free fall. They have other guys, edged guys that are
moving up. And then we get to draft ay and
it goes exactly like all the mock drafts had said

(43:29):
six weeks before. Right there we got Bryce Young one,
Stroud two, Anderson three. So this is where you have
to sort of, you know, step back when you start
hearing rumors. And the one guy that is really all
over the map right now is JJ McCart I knew it.
I knew it. So this really started when Jim Harbaugh

(43:52):
got hired by the Chargers. So the Chargers are sitting
in there with a fifth overall pick, and obviously they
don't need a quarterback, but they need help. They need
a lot of help, even more so now that Keenan
Allen's in a Bears uniform and Mike Williams gone. So
he's starting to throw it out there that JJ McCarthy
is the best quarterback talent in this draft. Yes, yeah,

(44:17):
and we're like, well, no, no, no, Caleb Williams, Drake May,
Jayden Daniels. Hey, those are the top three guys, Pennix later,
Nick later, McCarthy later. And now all of a sudden,
I see a few of these mock drafts and they're
picking up on this McCarthy thing. I've seen him as
high as now number two to the Commanders. All right,

(44:38):
So where do we separate fact from fiction right now?
In terms of the JJ McCarthy rumors in how high
he's going to go in this draft, this is actually,
this is actually a pretty hard one. Obviously, we know,
we've been around the game long enough to know teams
have done their homework for a long time. Now. Somebody saying.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Three weeks ago that JJ McCarthy may be rising and
it may be the second best player in this draft.
That quarterback that's just a roamer. We know that that's
it can't be true. We've seen three years of him
doing what he doing what he does. Obviously, we've seen
the skill talent that he has in pro days and
workouts and that's fine. Like everybody looks good in shorts

(45:28):
and you could see, you know, funny things happen in
those situations where some gms do take debate on that.
We've seen that happen. I had a teammate of mine
and the Jets who was a workout warrior look great.
I'm not going to say his name because he's a
friend of mine, but workout warrior looked great, played well
in college and you'll know who it is eventually, but
I'm not going to say it to the people. Got

(45:49):
drafted with that first round pick with us, and and
you see him, You're like, man, this dude's going to
be so good and he should be. He should he
should be worthy of that pick. Was not worthy of
that PI And so that's that's what teams have to
be careful of right now. Off of potential or what
this person has shown that he can do. And trust me,

(46:14):
these gms and these coaches have done their due diligence.
They know who they want right now, and they know
who's best available as well. And so just because somebody
said he's good two weeks ago doesn't mean that he's
going to be the number two pake in his draft.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Well again, when it comes to the quarterback position, just
look what happened three years ago. Five quarterbacks taken the
first fifteen picks. Three of them are no longer with
those teams. The other guy is hanging on by a thread,
Zach Wilson. The only reason he's still a jet is
that no one will take him off their hands. So
that's really four out of five. That's right, that's right,

(46:48):
you know. And so it's not like that happened thirty
years ago. They happened three years ago, fairly recent. So
when you start over evaluating him, But people know this,
Like if you look at this dra conventional wisdom right
by the way, I suddenly see, you know, for a
little bit there, all of a sudden, Jane Daniels had
leap frog over Drake, made to the commanders, and then

(47:10):
Drake now all of a sudden, they're flipping it back
they did, okay now, and now they're back to Drake
May going to the Commanders and Jade Daniels with the Patriots.
But let's just call that a wash. Then you gets
to Arizona for yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
They're taking the receiver you right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah? I mean how different was Kyler Murray when he
had d hop and then when he did not have
d hop?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
He went from pro bowler to not a pro bowler?

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And there is a lot of receiver talent. Is Marvin
Harrison Junior the best receiver in the stress?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Well they're sam Elak neighbors now, right, so his.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Neighbor's the best. Day's obviously gotta be good. I mean
those are three stud receivers.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
What do you What do you think about Harrison not
working out at all, like not doing anything?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
What did you think of that? I don't, I don't.
How much does that even matter? We talked about this
carry what matters like at the combine interviews and physicals.
That's it. That's it. You've got plenty of tape on
Marvin Harrison. You know what this guy can do on
the football field, right? Yes? Okay, so does why does
it worry about his work.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
A lot of people I would see you online talking about, Yeah,
this the character of this guy?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Why is he not?

Speaker 5 (48:17):
So?

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I know? Trust me, I'm with you. How much money
you think Marvin Harrison Junior made this past year? Quite
quite a bit millions, right, right, quite a bit, I'm sure. Yeah.
It's a different game now with the NIL These guys
have already got money in their pockets, so I don't
think they have to cater to all the wishes and
needs of the NFL, especially if you're going to be
a top pick. I agree, Yeah, for sure, it's not

(48:39):
going to have any impact on you.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Who do you think is the better receiver?

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Though?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
You think it's you think it's Harrison, and well let's here,
here's what I say about neighbors. Yeah, it's you know,
when you think about Jamar Chase, you think of Justin Jefferson,
you think bust Sure tell us you receivers are insane.
Do I start seeing a pattern of these LSU receivers

(49:04):
coming out and excelling at the next level. I think
that counts for something.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
I agree, I agree, I just I don't think you
can pass on Harrison though I think he's the most
from seeing them both up. Some of them both play.
I think I probably sat Harrison played more.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Well, and Harrison didn't have the same quarterback. Obviously Neighbors
had the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. That's right, that's right,
that's true. It's hard for me when you when you
look at the great receivers at the collegiate level, they're
open because they're just better athletes, you know. And that's
that's why it's hard to evaluate a lot of times
when you are throwing the open space, you're just throwing

(49:43):
it out there and they're running away from the defender
and they walk into the end zone. Wow, touchdown. That's
not happening in the NFL. No. No, that's when quarterbacks
have to throw it into windows, tight windows where receivers
actually have to go and get the football. Go get
the football, Go get the fun No.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Like even on a basic five yard out, you have
to go get the football. Like that's how tight those
when those are. And I don't think the common eye
or the common fan knows how intricate that part of
it is.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Our buddy TJ. Huschmann Zada here at Fox Sports Radio,
we've done many shows of TJ over the years, and
he said something just always stuck to me. There's a
Pro Bowl wide receiver back in his day with the Bengals,
and he laughs when he sees these forty times. He goes,
it's not how fast you run, it's how fast you
can stop. Yes, because that's how you get separation. You've

(50:38):
got to separate fast. So not how fast you run,
it's how fast you can stop. So true, that's how
you get open. That's so true.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
I mean that Actually, those guys like you talk about TJ,
you talk about Chad Johnson as well as teammate right, just.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
The best feet off the line ever.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Feat that those guys had, and obviously I had was
one of the best. But being able to get in
and out of breaks as a dB like you knew
if you were going against him that week, you better
work on your footwork that week. If you don't, you
will be embarrassed and being able to stop and cut
and come back to the ball. That's all receiving a
It's obviously there's more intricate things to it, but if

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you can't do that first thing, it doesn't matter how
fast you want.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
All Right, on the other side, we're gonna get to
some of those teams that apparently need a quarterback. The
question is how far are they going to reach to
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(51:45):
And just update you the thirty two on air people
here at Fox Sports Radio that submitted a bracket. I
am in sole third place and Carry is tied for
fourth out of thirty two.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Nipping right at your heels, Babe, I IV you need Duke,
and I didn't tell you I need also Purdue as well.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I tried to keep it all two is now taking
the league. This game is absolutely insane. How Purdue now
has regained the league? What are they on a twelve
nothing run? That's right, twelve nothing run to regain the league?
Thirty three thirty two over Tennessee with a minute and
a half to go in the first half. All right,
So we'll talk about some of these teams. Also later
in this hour, we're gonna check in with our Major

(52:24):
league baseball insider John Paul Morosi. This is Fox Sports Sunday,
Steve Harman and Carrie Rhoads. Here Fox Sports Sunday. We
are live from the tire Raq dot Com studios. Halftime
and Purdue was down eleven, but a fifteen to two
run to close out the half. So Purdue leads Tennessee
at the half thirty six to thirty four. That game

(52:47):
figures to go right down to the wire. Two teams
with strengths and weaknesses, yep, but two coaches that have
been around a while, you know, Matt Painter obviously, as
we mentioned, Purdue has not been to a Final four
since nineteen eighty, which predates Gene Katie. Katie never got
to the Final four. He's still in the Hall of Fame.

(53:10):
It's Hall of Fame coach, yeah for sure. And Painters
given that vibe right now. But he may break through here, Yeah,
he might through. It might break through. This is a
tough one. And then of course later on Okay, you
were asking me during the break, Duke n C State
or are we going to be watching? I got some
TV work to do tonight, so I'll be watching the
TV station. But you, mister Dukeye. Yeah, fake Louisville fan.

(53:33):
Oh my god, where are you going to be watching
this game?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I'm actually going to go shout out to Roccos Tavern.
I'm gad Mansie knows about Roccos. He's a frequent there
as well. Gonna go there, get me a little sex
in and watch the game, man, and hopefully hopefully there's
like some Duke supporters on the side.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
And there's stuff to get out. There's so nobody roots
for Duke. It's either it's Duke versus the world.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
So you're on the evil empire train to.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
I just.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Why for every don't give me start, don't give me started?
Coach k I'm not gonna take anything away from his
obvious success, winningest coach, most final fours, five national championships,
it's all there. Ye can't stand him?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Why give me one reason?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Why one? Like one? I say the same thing about
Steve Kerr. There's a smugness about them. Well, I'll tell you,
I tell you it was a personal thing. So when
when he passed Bob Knight as the winniest Division one
basketball coach, had him on on my radio show when

(54:46):
I was doing the show with Pat O'Briant. Pat was
a really good friend at coach k So you call
him and you've just come on the show with us,
and I couldn't resist. I said, well, now that you've
passed Bob Knight, do you think he can break Pat
Summits record? Because she had over a thousand months at
that point, right, and he had that was that that
awkward silence? And he goes probably not. No, you could

(55:13):
just tell he's like he didn't like that. Oh no, No,
he couldn't play along with me. He could have had.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Fun with that, right, definitely, I would have had fun
with that one.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, he just had some fun with it. But no, no, no, no,
he took himself way too seriously.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
From my face, he crossed you off the list of
talking to you ever again.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't wild about me. He's like,
who's that guy that you're sitting there with? Pat? Is
that Hartman guy? Yeah? We're getting we're talking about the
NFL Draft, and and again, this is gonna be a
crazy month leading up to the draft, as we're just
gonna hear wild rumors all over the place of someone
shooting up or shooting down the charts. But the obvious,

(55:48):
the obvious teams that everyone's circling are the Vikings at
eleven and the Broncos at twelve. Yeah, because right now,
the Vikings quarterback is Sam Darnold, and yeah, who who
do we have there? What's his name? In Denver? The
perennial backup? Yeah? Who do we have? What's his name?

(56:09):
Why doay I? Suddenly his dame escapes me again? Might
as well?

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah, yeah, he came in those last couple of games.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah, So obviously these are two teams that are looking
to move up in the draft or are they see
that's that's the point. Like the Vikings at eleven. I've
seen some mock drafts where if they don't move JJ
McCarthy is going to be sitting there at number eleven

(56:35):
if indeed you believe he's the best quarterback on the board.
And this is where again, you have to figure out
where the other teams stand, not just the teams in
front of you, but the teams behind you, because you
have to say, Jared Stidham is the guy with the Broncos, right, Yes,
that's right. So that's that's what's the challenge here, because

(57:03):
if you're like if you're the Vikings and you're pretty
well saying, all right, I don't see anybody in front
of us taking a quarterback. I mean, in all these
WAW rumors that the Giants at six are going to
take a quarterback, really, I know, why why would you
do that? Think about it for a second. Yeah, Daniel
Jones two years ago. The reason he got that deal

(57:25):
is that he led the Giants into the playoffs. He
played well. They beat the Vikings in Minnesota in a
playoff game. He looked pretty good, and you know they
didn't have a healthy Saquon Barkley came back his game
took a step back. That's not unprecedented. We've seen a
lot of successful quarterbacks have a breakout year and maybe

(57:45):
take a little step backwards before they take more steps forward. Sure,
the idea of starting all over again if you're the
New York Giants at quarterback when he had that kind
of money committed to Daniel Jones, it doesn't make sense.
The Giants are not taking a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Umber six in this draft for that reason. It does
not make sense. But I'll counter argue you here that
I don't think Daniel Jones is the guy obviously they did.
They paid the money, and so Ryan Dabo thought he
was the guy. I don't know if he thought he
was the guy or not. I think the organization did.
I know Brian from a long time. I know that
he was a young guy and offensive genius, offensive mind,

(58:22):
really good at that he went to Buffalo, made Josh
Allen really good, and so there's moments of He's gonna
bring the Brilliants out of Daniel Jones because he's that
good of a coach. I don't think Daniel Jones is
that guy, but I also think they have a lot
of problems on that team. So to go into this
draft and take another quarterback would just not make sense

(58:43):
for that reason alone.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
That reason alone. So top three teams are taking quarterbacks
because he got rid of their quarterbacks. So that's obvious. Exact.
I mean those top three teams all got rid of
their quarterbacks, So that means it's obvious the Giants didn't
not get rid of Daniel Jones. He's still there there.
So the Giants are not taking a quarterback at six,
I can't. I think what the Giants are looking for though,

(59:08):
is to move back, yes, and so you throw it
out there. If you're the Giants, right, you're the one
that leak out. Well, maybe we're looking quarterback. Yeah, and
all of a sudden that somebody pushes the panic button. Yes,
the Vikings at eleven. Well, I see, because the Vikings

(59:30):
are one slot ahead of the Broncos. The Broncos are
under more pressure, I think in front to jump in
front of him. But just how high do you go?
The Chargers are another team. See, it is obvious to
me that Jim Harball looks at this draft because you're like,
well they need a wide receiver, obviously, now, no Kingan Allen,

(59:50):
no Mike Williams, right, and you got you know whether
it's going to be Harrison or Neighbors or a Doonza whoever.
But that's the whole point. I think the charge you know,
he he wants to trade out of that slot. I
think he's confident there are I mean, don't forget about Bowers. Oh,
I do not forget about him. Right, Yes, even if

(01:00:11):
you're the Chargers and you fall down in the draft
to pick up extra picks and maybe those top three
receivers are off the board, I'll take Bowers any day
of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I don't think Bowers is going to go past ten though,
that that's my that's my thinking. So no one, no
one's going to trade up to take a tight end.
No for a tight end, No, no, no, I mean
unless he's I don't know, I mean nowadays, then you're
assuming that Harrison, Neighbors, and GenZ are all off the
board by ten. I don't think so, just because of

(01:00:42):
offensive line issues and things there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Right, So it's very tricky. It's it's me too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
This stuff is good. But that's the thing though, right, Like,
you don't trade up to take a tight end traditionally,
but how big.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
They did?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
But and he hasn't had a guy to get him
the ball yet, but if they do now and so
I want to see what he does this year. But
if you have a generational guy, I think Bowers is
that guy. And in our in the NFL and that league,
how big is the tight end consist right now?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
It's always been huge? Yeah, just as Tom Brady. How
much of a game changer was Gronk? I mean, I
mean I go back to even in my old Raider
days and Todd Christensen for Jim Plunkett, I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Yeah, I mean it was well they used to be
the security blanket, right, that was their Yeah, the ability
as we see with Kelsey, the great tight ends, they freelance,
They find open spots and the and the and the
quarterback knows how to find them exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
That's it. It's backyard football. Move the chains, that's what
you're trying to move, and that's what these tight ends do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
And then you have guys like the Kelsey's, the Gronkowski's,
the gonzales Is where they can also catch it fifteen
in scores.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Well, so I mean yeah, that so all right, Well,
we'll get more into that a little bit late. Ran
coming up on the other side, we're going to check
in with John Paul Morosi, our Major League Baseball insider.
But first let's find out what is trending right now.
And well, Manci, you and I all over that Tennessee
Volunteer bandwagon. We were off eleven, and all of a sudden,

(01:02:16):
I look out their rosy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah, I saw MONSI with the victory champagne back there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Did not last long, It did not, It did not, So.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
I had to drink it fast because you know, I
didn't want to be too embarrassed by the end of it. Yeah,
I don't know, ste we haven't made the best choices
as all I'm going to say, but there's still a
whole nother half. Yes, Number one per due beating number
two seed Tennessee thirty six thirty four. It's halftime out
of the Midwest Region in college hoops. For the men,
it is the Elite eight, so they're trying to get

(01:02:42):
to the Final four following this matchup. It's eleven seed
NC State, who really is like the Cinderella story left
here right out of the men's college basketball tournament.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
They're taking on four seed Duke.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
This game is supposed to tip off around five pm
Eastern time.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
Now we're going to check in on the ladies side.

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
Because South Carolina number one seed South Carolina, they still
haven't lost, like that is impressive.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
They are moving on to the final four.

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
They beat third seeded Oregon State seventy to fifty eight
was the final score right now, must be very exciting
for NC State that the ladies are also in the
Elite Eight. They're playing number one seed Texas. They just
got going with four minutes to go on the first quarter.
Texas up on NC State ten to seven. Is also
again the Elite eight in the women's tournament. Now we
move on to baseball. Lots of games going on, fellas

(01:03:29):
like the Yankees, who have extended their lead over the Astros.
It's three to one in Houston, bottom of the fifth inning.
The Yankees could sweep the Astros and the Astros could
start the season zh to four. The Cubs are beating
the Rangers three to two, top of the fourth inning.
The Royals have exploded. They are up on the Twins
ten to zero. It's gonna be the bottom of the

(01:03:50):
fifth inning. Bobby Witt Junior has already hit a triple,
a home run, a single, so all he needs is
a double to go for the cycle.

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
And it's only the bottom of the fifth inning.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
People don't understand that about the cycle. The cycle is
almost the equal of a no hit.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
How many times is this happen in Major League? Getstreet? Yes,
the numbers are very, very s.

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
A lot of things have to go your way for
it to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
It's always the triple, y.

Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Yes, when you already got it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:20):
I think he really just needs that double and he's
got his cycle. The Tigers are beating the White Sox
two to one, bottom of the fifth inning, the Nationals
have retaken the lead over the Reds.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
It's four to three. Top of the seventh inning.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
It's all Blue Jays against the Rais in Tampa, with
Toronto up seven to one top of the seventh inning.
The Marlins holding on to that grand slam by Jazzishem
Junior in the first inning. They're beating the Pirates six '
four top of the seventh inning. The Burers extended their
lead some more over the Mets in New York for
one bottom of the sixth the Braves still beating the

(01:04:53):
Phillies three to two bottom of the seventh, and the
Angels trying to get their first win of the season.
They are on top of the Oriels four to one
top of the eighth inning. And we do have some
golf going on. It is the final round of the
Houston Open and Steven Jeger is in the lead at
twelve under par over all.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
Back to you guys, all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Right, Monzie, thank you very much, great stuff as always,
and we need the balls to come back here in
the second half. All right, let's switch gears because join
us right now. I feel privilege every time we have
an opportunity to talk to this man because he's just
the best at what he does, whether it's hockey, which
I feel like his real passion is, uh, Michigan sports

(01:05:37):
in general. But yeah, we bring him in as our
Fox Sports Radio MLB insider. The legend himself, John Paul
Morosi is joining us, and JP, I want to throw
some numbers out at you to start this off. There's
this guy who right now is hitting six ' eleven.
That's his batting average. He has an OPS of twenty
one toh nine on his resume. He's been a Silver

(01:06:01):
Slugger Award winner six times, He's won six goal gloves,
He's won an MVP and been second three other times
in his career. And yet I don't hear people conceding
the fact that he is, without a doubt, the best
all around player in Major League Baseball. I'm speaking, of course,

(01:06:22):
of Mookie Bets of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Is it
possible that Mookie Bets maybe as underrated a player as
we've seen in Major League Baseball?

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
You know, Steven carrying that afternoon. First of all, it's
a great question, and I think that you're spot on
see that Mookie Bets is as underrated of a superstar
in a large market. And I'll add that very importantly
because he's playing for the Dodgers. Before the Dodgers, he
played for the Red Sox. He won a World Series

(01:06:53):
with the Red Sox, an MVP with the Red Sox,
so he's already achieved great fame now with two of
the iconic franchises in baseball. And You're exactly right, we
still do not, I think nationally internationally appreciate him on
the level that we should. But I want to share
this with you. I was there at Dodger Stadium for

(01:07:13):
the home opener, and when they were doing the pregame intros,
the intro ovation from the Dodger fans for Mookie Betts
was just as big and in some ways even louder
than that for Showy Otani. And with all the Otani fans, fair,
I get it. It was his first home game as

(01:07:35):
the Dodgers, so there was a lot of reason for
there to be the excitement about show A certainly, But
I'm just here to tell you that for the people
that watch him play every day the way that Dodger
fans do, they know what they're watching. And I think
if you're a fan of baseball, you know what you're
watching because he could impact your team so many different
ways of the stolen base, the power, the speeds, defense.

(01:07:55):
But guys, I want to make two really big examples,
actually three quick ones for you that I that I
really fand out to you about about Mookie Beck. Number one,
he was a gold blever in right field. Then he said, yep,
to make the team better, I'll move to second base,
and actually midway through spring training, I'll move shortstop because
we need it because of Gavin Luck's situation over at second.
So I'm going to move positions twice in the span

(01:08:16):
of four or five months. As the future Hall of
Fame player. That doesn't happen all the time. That takes
great character. The second thing, I go back to the
twenty eighteen World Series. After a World Series game the
Red Sox won, He's at Benway Park. No one knows
he's doing this. He takes the food that was remaining
in the clubhouse that was going to be wasted otherwise.
He goes and on his own that night, takes it

(01:08:39):
to a homeless shelter in Boston. And the only reason
why people found out about it is because the TV
reporter was around, caught wind of it and shared it.
He did that not expecting to get any sort of attention.
Board He does that because that's just the person that
he is. And the final thing I'll say, is this
the work that he puts in. After that, after the
home opener, he was our interview guest after the game
was over an MLB network and he told me that

(01:09:00):
he takes between two hundred and three hundred ground balls
a day, two hundred to three hundred ground balls a
day to get the best chance to make a play
on the two or three that he gets during the game.
That is special for someone who loves his craft that much.
As think about it, Steven Carey, we've all been around
sports a long time. When your future Hall of Famer

(01:09:21):
is doing that, what message does that send to the
rest of the room about how you're supposed to conduct
yourself and work And why does winning follow Mookie bets around?
Because that's on me carries himself. He's just he's that
great of a person in edition to be the very
talented ball player.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
I think the what you just said there is probably
part of the reason he doesn't get more recognition is
because that's what we expect from him. And I think
when you're the good guy, the nice guy, and you're clean,
that's just who you are, and we put you in
that category and there's no hype around that because that's
what we expect. And I think that's part of the

(01:09:56):
detriments and him. But I think that's also an MLB thing.
If that's the person that's doing good and we have
an example of that, why not put that on display
for the world to see. I don't think baseball doesn't
a good enough job of doing that for him, because
his game speaks for itself.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
But he does. Yeah, go ahead, can add quickly. I
do think he And this is where it's so interesting
carry that the conversation about baseball players, how they're marketed
and reroll up to other sports. Right, we just have
so many games, so in a lot of ways, the
game has to become the marketing. Now, Mooki, to his credit,
is actually doing a podcast now, which is awesome, and

(01:10:34):
it's showing you first sight of his personality. But for me,
I look at it this way, that Mooki shows so
much of his personality and character to the players he's
around and with us as the media it's all there.
He is himself and authentic all the time, and I
just hope that really my hope for everybody around is

(01:10:55):
a baseball fan, just try to watch him as much
as you can, and especially if you're a parent with
kids in you sports or of your young athlete yourself,
watch how he carries himself. He is, he's the best
player on the field, to your point, best all around
athlete on the field, and he still carries himself and
works like he's like he's a grinder because he's five

(01:11:16):
foot nine. I think that as part of his churm
is that he still hasn't lost that bit of trying
to prove himself, and that's what makes him great.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
John, I want to go from one good guy to
the good guys. And I want to talk about the
Yankees a little bit here. I think this is their year.
I think this is their year to actually live up
to expectations. I know the Sodo trade, not the trade,
the Sodo acquisition was a big one, and it seems
like he's already becoming I want to say, a Voyd

(01:11:46):
a very strong voice in that locker room and on
that field, even early on as the season that started
tell me about the impact of adding Solo to that
roster with the Yankees.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
Well, this is exactly the player they've needed. And we
talk a lot about different players and how they might
fit and the Yankees and different pursuits they had in
the offseason. Soto was the right player for the right
team at the right time. In a lot of ways.
He might even fit them even better than Otani would have,
because he is so aware of the strike though, and

(01:12:18):
is willing to take a walk when that's what merits
merits it. And when you pair him up now with
Aaron Judge, it places such pressure on the opposition from
the very first inning of the ballgame. And I just love,
I love seeing the way this Yankee lineup works. And
by the way, they're not even at full strength. DJ
Lamaynew was still out, but they I think we forget,

(01:12:41):
maybe sometimes Carrie, how much they were shorthanded last year
in almost every way. Judge miss time, Rizzo, miss time,
le Mayhew, miss time. There were absences all over the place.
And now you look at this group and they just
have to have a decent year with health. If they
have a decent year with health, they'll win one hundred games.

(01:13:04):
Because pseudo and judge will bring out the best at
each other. I think we're already seeing that one has
become an improved defensive player and an impactful opening day
effort in the field as well. So I'm with you.
I think the Yankees, if rodn is just an average pitcher,
if they get called back in a reasonable amount of time,
there's a lot to like about this team. And I

(01:13:26):
think offensively, as much as there might be some concerns
about their pitching, they're offensively clicking in a way that
makes those pitching concerns a little bit less severe.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
All right, final thing here, the Otani situation. So I
mentioned the ridiculous numbers that Mookie Betts is putting up.
Otani has one extra base hit through the first five
games and ops and the six hundreds right now. He
popped out with the bases loaded last night and the
tenth inyas the Dodgers lose thanks to Joe Kelly's inability
to get anybody out out of the bullpen. That's another story,

(01:13:56):
but anyway, so A Tani came out and just flat
out denied not only any involvement in this gambling scandal,
but that he just never bet on anything, And as
someone that wakes up every single day checking every bank
account that I have, it doesn't make any sense to
me how it's possible that someone could literally remember to

(01:14:17):
get to four and a half million dollars in debt.
That's tens of millions of dollars that were actually gambled
on to get to that number where you're four and
a half million dollars in the hole. How is Major
League Baseball going to handle this situation? I find it
a laugh on My buddy Pete Rose, and I say
my buddy because I'm a big Pete Rose fan, said, gee,

(01:14:37):
I wish I had an interpreter that made my situation
a whole lot easier to have him as well a
fall guy. But how do you think major League Baseball
ultimately is going to handle moving forward this O Tawny
investigation or are they already resolved it?

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
Well, they haven't resolved it yet, and I think it's
going to take some time to work through. It is
obviously a complicated issue, and I think that the but
the big picture that the thing that's most important if
you're a baseball fan wondering what does this mean in
the big picture for the future of the game, et cetera.
At this moment in time, there is nothing to suggests,

(01:15:13):
no evidence that there was any wagering place, even by
Ipe Musuhara on baseball. None of the reporting one of
the speculation has indicated that he that there were wagers
placed on baseball by either Otani orizonterpret The reason why
that's important is if you are placing vets with an

(01:15:36):
illegal bookmaker on sports that are not baseball. While that
is obviously illegal, the sanction of MLB in the past,
such as Jared Cozart in twenty fifteen, is a fine
a fine. So based on what we know right now,
there is no indication that there's going to be an

(01:15:58):
administrative leave here or that going to be suspended, that
that is not the disciplinary path of what even if
even if there was any link established, which to this
point there hasn't been, that would be the penalty. So
there's an element of being able to rest easily, I
think for the people who are most closely involved in this.

(01:16:21):
But you're right that there are still questions about exactly
which authorities were contacted by Otani's camp to do the
further investigation. We don't know that that is still unclear
at this point based on what's better for it by
hispan and others. And there's the other piece that that
you alluded to earlier, which is how does he handle
all this now? I happen to think, and I've seen

(01:16:43):
a lot of the Dodgers this season, including in Korea
in person. He came within about ten feet away of
having a two homer game in the second game in Korea,
which was the day after the story broke, and he
had a great opening day with all the attention on him.
I don't think he's distracted. I don't see anything from
my observation of him that would say he's distracted. Last
night was that was the opportunity, without question. But I

(01:17:05):
don't look at him as being a distracted player. What
I do think is going to be interesting, guys, is
what happens when he goes on the road to the
true rival ballparks. Because the Angels don't really have to
be charitable rivals that dislike them with contempt, as you
know the Dodgers have at least too. The Potterys and

(01:17:26):
the Giants, both of them really don't like them. And
then now you have this massive contract and there's always
a few more booves that you hear just because you
make a lot of money. That's kind of part of
human nature. And then you add this whole investigation on
top of it. And we haven't seen him play a
true road game yet this year, and I'm just curious
to see. For someone who was universally cheered and it's

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such a clean, happy story for so long, how does
he confront what might be a negative response on the
road for some ballparks for the first time in his career, really,
And I think that's that's something that we don't know
yet because the Dodgers only have played either in Korea
or at home, so it's gonna be a very interesting
question for them going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
JP, We're up against it. As always, We really appreciate
your time. We'll talk to again next week.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
Thanks guys, happy easure, have a good week.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Thanks, Thank you very much. John Paul Morossi joining us there.
We continue on. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve Harvin,
Kerry Roads Here Fox Sports Sunday. Happy Easter to people
out there celebrating today. We are live from the Tirerak
dot Com studios. All right, Purdue has taken a forty
six to forty one lead. Still a lot of time left,
I'm saying to myself, fourteen forty three to go here

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in the second half. Again, Perdue was down eleven in
the first half, one on a fifteen to two run
to close the have two point lead at half time,
but right now Purdue leading by a score of forty
six to forty one. For Purdue trying to get to
the Final Four for the first time since nineteen eighty.
And I did have to say where there was old
symmetry going on with Clemson's first run to the Elite

(01:19:00):
Eight since nineteen eighty and the fact that I was
sports hedter UCLA with our young coach named Larry Brown,
who's still in his thirties at that point, leading us
to the championship game that year. Zach Edy has played
really well. I keep watching Edie and I just can't
get out of my mind that and there he is

(01:19:21):
dominating around the boards. Oh and he missed a layup. Wow,
but uh, out of it, I heard though. See, just
Purdue has a lot of non shooters.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
You know, it's crazy even coming into this segment right now,
the song that was playing, I literally thought I thought
the same thing with Tennessee right now. They're in the
danger zone right now, and they have these cold streaks
throughout games. Right now, there's zero points in the last
four minutes again, so you know, two big droughts. That's
zero points in eight minutes in this game along see.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Well, can I be honest with you here, because that's
just the way I operate. So I've been watching the
men's and the women's side. See a lot of bad shooting.
I mean a lot of bad shooting. It is. I
mean that Duke Houston game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
It was hard to watch, I mean except when they won.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
And it reminds you again the discservice that Steph Curry
did for the rest of us. That's true because you
have one guy that can do it better than anyone
that's ever done it, and everyone got to the mindset
that that's the way to go. Just have a bunch
of guys gunning from the outside and it's not the
way to go. I hope we see a change at
some point. All right, Well, coming up, we got much

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more here on the NCAA basketball tournament. We got some
NBA news as well. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Looking
at our brackets right now, We're coming down the stretch
as we are going to have the final two teams decided.
On the men's side, it's going to be in the
final four. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Kerry
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The wait tire buying should be. Purdue now has a
six point lead and Zach Edie is a really bad
matchup for just about every team, but especially Tennessee. They

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don't have anyone close to matching up against him. And
because of that, in order for Tennessee to win this game,
they got to shoot the ball well, and they're not
doing that either.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
They have these long droughts, which we've known Tennessee to have.
They've had a drought in the first half of four
minutes and now in the second half four minutes. So
for them to be even in this game down six,
it's it's attributed to Purdue. And you talked about Zach
Edy and nobody being able to stop him. They've been
able to follow him. He's missed. He's missed a lot
of free throws here, so he's going to have to
hunker down and make a couple of free throws for

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them to win this game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
He is, he is a lowdown inside and again, if
you're Matt Painter, the coach of the boiler Maker here,
you're doing the right thing. Keep feeding the big man.
And he just had another layup, so suddenly an eight
point lead for Perdue And just checking some of the
numbers on this game, carry Edie is got twenty seven

(01:22:14):
points and sixteen rebounds in this game and we still
have ten minutes to go in the game. So he
is absolutely dominating and Tennessee is just breaking one shot
after another. Uh and this is not looking good. And
Tennessee is shooting less than thirty six percent in this game.
Tennessee loses this game. I'm done, and you carry because

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you have Purdue in the final four and you have
a chance to win this whole thing, exactly. But you
have you have Duke beating Yukon in the championship game.
I believe you do. I've made just off my my homerythm.
But but that's that's good for you, Like, at least
you got a puncher's chance to win this. But right now,

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Purdue full million control, leading by six now with ten
minutes to go in this game. All right, I want
to switch a little bit to the NBA for a second. Here,
we had this amazing game. He made some reference to
Jalen Brunson's sixty one point effort against San Antonio. He
also took forty seven shots.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Yes, he took forty seven, but he made like twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Yeah, he saw a high percentage.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
There's a lot of shots, and it's one of those
situations where you're like, okay, there's a lot of shots,
but he also saw a high percentage.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Well, I remember going into Kobe's final game. You knew
he was going to put on a show. And I
remember previewing that game that day and I said, I'm
telling you what, don't be surprised if he puts up
like thirty five shots. He shot fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
He saw a lot more than that fifty fifty, and
it was a struggle. You saw how hard it one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
I mean, in an NBA game for anyone to get
off that many shots. But that wasn't the story of
the game. Wim min Yama was a story of the
game with his forty twenty game. Yeah, by the way,
there was an interesting stat that came out of the game.
It was only the second time ever there had been
a game where a guy had scored at least sixty

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points on one team and then someone on the other
team had forty twenty. The first time had happened. You
want to hear some numbers. Elgin Baylor scored sixty three
points for the Lakers. It was a triple over game,
overtime game against the Warriors, who were then playing in Philadelphia,
and on the other side, Will Chamberlain finished the game

(01:24:30):
with seventy eight points and forty three rebounds. Oh my
go what seventy eight points and forty three rebounds. That's
a really good game. You're like when we talk about
the greatest of all time? Right, Yeah, seventy eight points

(01:24:51):
and forty three rebounds. That's pretty dominic game. That's it's
pretty good. But Wemby is scary good. He he just
had his twentieth birthday. By the way, Tennessee is oh no,
go right now, forget it, Hello Tennessee. It's fifty four,
fifty three Perdue leading now by just one under nine

(01:25:14):
minutes to go, and we got a time out, time
out Purdue to slow down this Tennessee run. So right
now time out would Purdue clinging to a one point lead.
So it's always the kiss of death. As soon as
I say someone's in charge, I know it's going to
go the other way. But when we watch Wenby right
now and what this kid is doing, surrounded by nothing

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and he just turned twenty, you know, his potential is limitless.
And it's the only concern I would have about him
because I remember when Ralph Sampson came in the league,
very similar build. Samson was a superstar talent out of
Virginia and you know, started off strong in the NBA,

(01:26:00):
then he got hurt. Yeah, And so in developing Wemby's game,
it's not just developing his game. And he seems that
kind of guy committed to just getting better. Yeah, but
you got to hold that body together. And when you're
that tall, that lean, you know, and you're worried that
we've put on too much bulk. You know, is he

(01:26:22):
the same player? How do you handle? You train a
lot and everything else. But if you're if you're training
him for the long haul where he's going to be
in the league fifteen years. How do you handle that
with a guy that has that unique stature.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Yeah, he reminds me of obviously no one, but because
he's so tall, but Kevin Durant right right, seven footer,
people forget that. Well, in his wingspan even more so, yes,
people forget that. So he's a tall guy. He doesn't well.
Later on his career he did started to start to
get injuries, but in his early early years he did not.

(01:26:57):
I think Wemby's position is gonna matter the most right now.
Obviously because he's tall, he has to play center. He's
not a center though, and so I don't know what
I think. Actually Boston does a good job of this
with porzingis where the body types are similar to Wimby,
with the banging guys that you like to be really physical.

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They'll start a smaller, more stout, stout guy on that
person and let Porzingis roam off and be the shot blocker,
be the help guy. And I think defensively for Winby,
they're going to have to do that for him early on,
and then with the skill set offensively for Wimby, he's
such a fluid athlete at that height, and I think
even just in general, that he will avoid the big

(01:27:41):
injury that we're talking about, just because of his flexibility,
the way his body muscles are and the way he operates.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
So I don't see that becoming an issue.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
But they have to protect it, and I don't know
the answer to that outside of the physicality on the
defensive end, Maybe switching him off the big guys or
the centers and let him play small fours the guys
that can't shoot the ball well and be a help guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Well, it's not uncommon obviously for rookies to hit the wall. Yeah,
this guy's not hitting the wall. He's really good, man.
He's getting better and better and better and better. So
that is extremely impressive. Now when we look at this league.
Mentioned the fact that still the two biggest stars in
this league of Lebron and Steph Curry, they're the biggest
stars in the league and still both playing at a

(01:28:26):
very high level, and both guys as of today, they're
going to face each other in a one game elimination
of the play around right now. That's right, nine versus
ten right now. Yeah, And by the way, the Team
City at seven. Also in the playing round is a
team that has Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beal.
Yeah what am I missing here?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Our?

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
I mean even Sacramento is another playing team in the West.
I mean, I know the West is loaded and we
you know, look at the Houston Rockets right now on fire.
They may sneak and knock out and the Warriors out
of the play And can you imagine what Warriors didn't
even make the play play in around?

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
I could see they they're not so much turmoil this year.
I mean within obviously Draymond stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
But you'll let me stop you with right now, let
me stop stop you with driven, because I'm really curious
how you feel about this. So obviously it was clear
the other night that Steph was pissed off. Yes, you know,
you get ejected in the opening minutes of a game
where every game at this point matters, as you're clinging
into any opportunity even to get into the playing around, right,

(01:29:34):
I mean, enough's enough?

Speaker 7 (01:29:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Yes, what do you do if you're the Warriors or Draymond? Well,
I mean you can always cut your losses. But they
just gave him a contract.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
You know what I mean, It's like they keep enabling.
So you talk about being enablers to someone, They've enabled
him to do this, and now when it looks bad
like it's looking right now, it's obviously easy for us
to have this conversation and know that the probab the
answer for this situation would be to cut your ties.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
What do you say to the critics of Steph Curry
who say that the reason that Draymond continues to act
in the manner that he does is the fact that
Steph Curry is not a leader on that team.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Steph Curry can't control Draymond Green. Nobody can, Nobody has.
It doesn't matter if you're a leader.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
En Now, why can he? I mean, Steph Curry is
the face, the man on the Warriors team. They don't
win championships without Steph Curry, So why can't he put
his foot down and say enough enough?

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Yeah, they don't win championship without Dreymond Green either in
those times right now, he's not as bad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Where's Steve Kerr in all this is any of the
coach of the team.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Steve Kerr was around a coach in a situation that
enabled a guy as well. So that's what he's seeing
in his ranks coming up. Even as a player, he
was on those Bulls teams with Dennis Rodman and Phil Jackson,
one of the best coaches of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Now, but let me tell you something. Jordan had control
over rod Nah a little bit, but not as much
as you would think.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
I mean, you look at that documentary that The Last Dance,
and Jordan did have say so and would say it obviously,
But Phil Jackson came to Michael Jordan like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Well when rod went AA and Vegas and that whole story,
and like Jordan knew about it, he couldn't control that,
like let him go for a couple of days. Jordan
went to go and control him. On the court.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Oh for sure, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
I mean, that's that's the whole point got on the court.
I mean, I don't want to take anything away from
Steph Corey. Look, he's one of the all trying greats.
But even think about when Durant joined the team, it
became Durant's team, did it not. That's true? Yeah, I
Mean here was the two time reigning MVP just sort
of yea having no problem saying okay, yeah, you're the
man there. Steph's too nice.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
I don't know, because that's what it feels like because Jordan,
like you said, Jordan would not allow that on the court. Never,
he would fight you. But that's not Steph, not no way.
So how does he.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Being a great player doesn't necessarily Again, a leader, by
definition is someone that inspires others to follow. Sure, that's
what a leader is. Either our leader or you're not.
It doesn't take away even Kobe Bryant, Yeah, wasn't that
kind of person either. No, he wasn't. He was a
great player, but you had to see the locker room

(01:32:20):
dynamic as much respect as everybody in the league had
for his skills. I never looked at him like as
a as a leader in that respect, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Don't think Kobe would have cared to be that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Is Draymond Green the leader of this Warriors team?

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
That's what it seems like, right right, And that's your leader.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
That's not a good thing. Then do you think their
window of opportunity is completely closed? Now it's done, Now done,
they're finished. That's done. Yeah, yeah they're not. If you're
the Lakers, are you nervous about a nine to ten
game loser leave home against the Warriors. Yes, yes, yes,
there's the Darvin ham factor. Why was he having Tory

(01:33:01):
and Green play forty minutes a night to start the
season when they already had their lineup set from the
playoffs a year ago? It's amazing. Now it took him
more than half the season to put back into the
lineup the lineup they had down the stretch last year
when they made the run to the Western Conference finals.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
You get a nice signing toy. You want to play
with that toy a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
He's terrible, Darvin, he is terrible. They need a new
coach on there.

Speaker 5 (01:33:21):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Coming up on the other start, we're going to get
to this conclusion of this game between Perdue and Tennessee.
Inside eight minutes to go, Purdue leading by one. Which
team will punch their ticket to the Final four? Find out?
This is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve Harbin and Kerrie Roads Here,
Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from the Tirak dot com studios.
All right, right now, we are focused on this Purdue

(01:33:42):
Tennessee game. We're at four minutes to go and Purdue
has a one point lead. It is a two man show.
Zachi ed versus Dalton Connect, the all Americans putting on
a show. The rest of their teammates are doing nothing.
So Edie has thirty two points, the rest of his
teammates have twenty seven. Connect has thirty one points, the

(01:34:02):
rest of his teammates have twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
And that's a one point difference.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
And basically back back and forth. Those two guys are
taking all the shots. And we're now inside. Four minutes
ago we got a time out TV timeout and Purdue
with the one point lead. I don't know what you do, like,
I mean, there's still a lot of time to be
played here, and if you're just having one guy having

(01:34:28):
to carry the load, you can't do that. Somebody else
has got to step up. You got to get other
players involved. I get if you're inside, you know, two
minutes to go inside, a minute to go get the
ball to your big guy, but not for the last
you know, eight minutes of the game. Which that that's
pretty much what we've been seen in this game. We have.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Yeah, it's been a battle of you know, superstars in
this game. We knew both both guys would come in
and play well. Obviously you expect I expect to come
into this game that produes role players will play a
bigger part than ten the season. I think that's what's
going to separate us down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
We got four minutes left and they're not going to
let Edie beat them, So somebody's gonna have to make
a shot either way as a role player to decide
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Yeah, they've been putting Edie on the line. He has
missed a few free throw Its not terrible. He's eight
or twelve on the free throw line. The Connectors thrown
up twenty six shots for Tennessee in this game, and
you can just see that when he gets his hands
on the ball, he's looking to shoot. What a story, right,
This guy was a transfer out of Northern Colorado. He
had a breakout season last year, a former JC player

(01:35:33):
for a couple of years before he even made it
to Northern Colorado, Colorado native and then he This transfer
portal just is a mind blowd you know how it
changed the game of collegiate sports. The idea of just
going from one school to the next. You don't have
to sit out a year. Can you imagine? Can you
imagine back in the day, Carrie Rhodes and every year

(01:35:57):
you're at Louisville, you have an opportunity enter that transfer
portal and people are throwing offers all over the place.
Do you think if you had been afforded that opportunity,
you would have been looking for opportunities elsewhere? How would
the collegiate career of Kerry Roads have been different if
the transfer portal not mentioned the nil have been available

(01:36:17):
back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Great question. I would not have been the cardinal my
whole career. Yeah, it's just the truth. My first year
going to Louisville was the intention was meant for me
to play both sports football and basketball there. But also
I came in as a quarterback, and so I get
that first year, you know, I'm playing quarterback, and I know,
like I kind of since that there's a shift happening

(01:36:40):
where they want me to place another position. Oh I
would have been out the door. Yeah one, So it
would have been different.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Yeah, I mean, it's just changing the game. But sometimes
you don't know. I mean, as with the connect obviously
it's worked got huge for Tennessee, obviously within a point
right now. This is a program, by the way that
it's never into the final four, just like another SEC team,
Alabama punched their first take of the Final four ever
Ley yesterday. Tennessee trying to do the same thing today.

(01:37:09):
But you know this transfer port, you know, San Diego
State's one of those schools that really I think they
were a little ahead of the curve when they realized
they could get these grad transfers. Remember that was the
like Russell Wilson when he left NC State to go
to Wisconsin did not have to sit out a year
because he had been a graduate, so he was a
grad transfer and immediately stepped in led Wisconsin to the

(01:37:30):
Rose Bowl. But now could be anybody, all right, Zach
getting back at the free throw line and Purdue with
a one point lead, and we are at three fifty
six to go. Of course, coming out later, NC State
and Duke battle of ACC teams trying to get to
the Final four. And when you're John Shire at Duke

(01:37:52):
and you're the one that follows the legend Mike Krzyzewski,
who made the Final Four his last season at Duke,
getting back to the Final four a couple of years
would calm down some of the critics at Duke if
he got back there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
I mean, you had people calling for his job this year,
hold a duke faithful. It's just crazy the expectations and
you know, the follow the legend coach k Obviously it's
gonna be tough shoes, tough sledding anyway. But in those
Shire's done a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
I actually like his end game stuff that he does,
you know, watching them play as much as I do.
So he's gonna be fine. And this would be a
good a good step in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
All right. We've had free throws made by Zach eating
now three point laid. Now connects going to go to
the free throw life again. This is just back and forth.
Can everybody just get off the court now and just let's.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Make it one one one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
I mean, it's unbelievable. Still plenty of time left in
this game, all right. I just you know, when we
talk about the NCAA Basketball Tournament and the fact that
Yukon has completely dominated again just like they did last year,
seemingly no one's even in the same breath. I mean,
we're watching two teams right now, Tennessee and per dude.

(01:39:00):
Try to put these teams on the court against Yukon
right now. Yeah, come on, it's gonna be tough. Yeah,
I mean, you know, with all due respect to your doochie,
Connect kids both free throw sixty one, sixty out perdue
three forty one to go. But I don't think that's
a bad thing. I like, even if I can't stand
Yukon for being this good, it's good for the sport.

(01:39:21):
It gives it gives them an identity, It gives you
something to shoot for. I mean, Hurley's done an unbelievable
job there to get Yukon not just back on top,
but better than ever. All right, once again, a little
lob pass inside of this is two guys back and forth,
back and forth. No, Yeah, thirty four for Ead, thirty
three for Connection.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
The crazy thing about what you're saying right now is
it is good for the sport because it gives you
a chance to as Connect shoots again and misses the time,
but it gives you a chance to either root for
the superpower or root for the villain, and you though
it's it's either or a lot of times when you
have somebody that's really good, what you talked about earlier
is you have people that love them, which you have,

(01:40:00):
but I hate their success, so it brings it brings
some competitive fire as a fan outside of the game
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Again UCLA basketball and the Heyday, you know, winning ten
championships and a twelve year span with coach winning Big
Three for Purdue. And they have opened up a six
point lead now with two and a half minutes ago
clock running. This is a critical possession for Tennessee. They're
just looking at Connect like, can you hit a shot?
Another shot? Please? Anybody? Anybody? One man show He gets

(01:40:28):
fouled on the dribble. But it put college basketball on
the map. UCLA's dynasty and I again being old enough
to remember that dynasty, I mean imagine they won at
one point seven straight championships. They had one point, won
thirty eight consecutive tournament games. That's that is the all

(01:40:50):
time record. They forget the eighty eight in a row,
thirty eight straight NCAA tournament games. Woulden won forty four
of his last forty five. The only loss was the
double overtime loss to David Thompson and NC State.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Won't be every won't be touched ever again.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
And that's when you had to win your conference championship
even to get in the tournament. So they're only playing
in conference champions, so much smaller field. Well, they only
had like twenty five teams in the field. Yeah, but
you had to win your conference to get into the field.
There were no second place teams or third place teams
back in the day. Purdue trying to open up with
a big three brick got the rebound though. All right,

(01:41:29):
but a six point lead now inside two minutes to go,
and Purdue now with the ball, trying to take control.
All right, let's find out what is trending right now?
Monci like me watching a Purdue win, and I can
rip up my brackets, that would be it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:45):
We can rip them up together.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
You just throw them up in the air and I
can be there, like the ceremonial first kick.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
He's got Perdue. He got Purdue and Duke in the
final four. Wow, Jeryl Rose could win this whole thing.

Speaker 7 (01:41:57):
I mean, listen, I'm telling you he's been watched very closely.

Speaker 6 (01:42:01):
As the tournament started.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Duke winning at all.

Speaker 7 (01:42:04):
Yeah, that's where you messed up. Oh yes, guys, this
is a close one. A minute forty six seconds to go.
Number one seed per Due beating number two seed Tennessee
sixty six to sixty. I have no dog in the fight,
aside from the fact that I picked Tennessee right in

(01:42:25):
my bracket.

Speaker 6 (01:42:25):
But man, I'm nervous, I'm sweating. I'm uncomfortable, Like I
can't even.

Speaker 7 (01:42:29):
Imagine if I actually was a fan for one of
these teams.

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
Like, I'm uncomfortable. And again, I don't really care. Seven
point game? Is Zach eaty on the free throw line?

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
As your voice raises, care, I.

Speaker 6 (01:42:42):
Don't really care.

Speaker 8 (01:42:43):
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:42:44):
I'm notagine if I cared. Oh, vomiting huh, yes, vombiting guys.

Speaker 7 (01:42:50):
Yes, something that's going on on the ladies side besides
the game. Now, South Carolina is advancing to the Final
Four for the fourth consecutive year thirty six and oo
for this season, they continue to be perfect. There's another
game going on right now, third seed NC State beating
one seed Texas forty seven to thirty five. But there's
a lot of controversy here, fellas, because the three point

(01:43:11):
line on the court.

Speaker 6 (01:43:12):
Is not the same on both sides. For this game.

Speaker 7 (01:43:15):
The NCAA has a release taste statement there is a
three point line discrepancy.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
They were notified today and I guess both.

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
Coaches were made aware, but they elected to play the
game anyway instead of correcting it and delaying the game.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Well, you have half the game each equal, right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:33):
Sure, I guess you having one shot.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Although I would like to have the shorter three point
line in the second half exactly the game on the line.

Speaker 6 (01:43:41):
So it's it's a it's a joke.

Speaker 7 (01:43:43):
It is a joke, and that they're going to have
it fixed apparently, But it's obvious this day that the
three point line is not the same.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
So on one side it's at ten feet, the other
side it's a thirty five. Yeah, something like that, something
like something's wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:43:57):
You have one job, right, Wow, I just cause the
three point one, like legit, you can see it. You
don't even have to try, like you just if you're
watching the game, you can see it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
I can't. But that's that's going on. Let's chick in
on Major League Baseball.

Speaker 7 (01:44:10):
Some games have wrapped up, Like the Angels they got
their first win at the season, beating the Orioles four
to one. The Phillies came back to beat the Braves
five to four.

Speaker 6 (01:44:19):
It was all Brewers.

Speaker 7 (01:44:20):
They outscored the Mets four to one, and it was
all Blue Jays.

Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
They took down the Rays nine to two.

Speaker 7 (01:44:25):
The Padres on the scoreboard first against the Giants two
zero bottom of the first inning. The Diamondbacks up on
the Rockies first, three zero bottom of the first as well.

Speaker 6 (01:44:34):
The Red Sox are beating the Mariners in Seattle one
zero top of the.

Speaker 7 (01:44:37):
Second inning, with the A's up on the Guardians to
zero bottom of the second. Still a tie game between
the Cubs and the Rangers. They're tied at five piece
bottom of the sixth inning. Also a tie game still
between the Yankees and the Astros.

Speaker 6 (01:44:48):
In Houston, it's three to three top of the eighth inning.

Speaker 7 (01:44:51):
Royals beating the Twins eleven zero top of the ninth inning.
Tie game between the Tigers and the White Sox to
a piece top of the ninth as well. Pirates have
taken the lead over the Marlins nine to seven, top
of the tenth inning.

Speaker 6 (01:45:04):
Pirates have the bases loaded. They're down to their final
out though, And.

Speaker 7 (01:45:08):
We'll check in real quick again at the final round
of the Houston Open. And I believe Stephen Jager is
still in the lead at twelve under part overall.

Speaker 6 (01:45:16):
Yes, he is last score.

Speaker 7 (01:45:18):
Here perdue of sixty eight sixty two one minute and
twenty five seconds to.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Go back to you guys, all right mind seeing well,
Tennessee's only hope right now is to do what they're doing,
and that's just foul Eedy every time. He just missed
a free throw. So it's a two possession game, yes, yes,
plenty of time. A minute and a half right in time.
He's going to have to make some free throws here
down the stretch, So just keep fouling him and hope
that he will miss free throws. But on the other end,

(01:45:48):
Tennessee doesn't have a lot of offensive weapons. Made the
second free throw se seven point perdue lead. Minute twenty
three o'clock is running down in Tennessee at this point
needs to score every time they go down the floor,
every single time, and Connect's looking to do it. He
is going to the basket and he lays it in.
So it is now a five point game. But a

(01:46:09):
little more than a minute to goo one more Purdue
basket and this game is going to be over. They're
not going to foul right now, They're gonna have to
foul at some point. Clock's running inside a minute. With
a five point lead in the ball, they want Eady
to touch it. So they can get the file, but
they're not giving it to him. Well, I'm just doing
a little math right now, because you're inside fifty seconds.
Purdue is just throwing the ball around the court and

(01:46:31):
they finally throw the ball into eighty. Now they got
to hope that he misses. Ah, they're going to follow him. Yeah,
they're trying to let him touch it. But took too
much time off the clock. Yeah, way too much time.
So he's gonna go three throw line, five point perdue lead,
forty two seconds to go. Again, Purdue trying to get
to their first Final four since nineteen eighty. You know,

(01:46:52):
last year we had Florida Atlantic, he had the U.
We had San Diego State in the final four with
U kon and who knows. I mean, this is a
throwback here again. Alabama never been in the Final four.
Purdue now in the driver's seat. Although Edie just missed
another free throw, it's not over yet. Burdue has him

(01:47:15):
been there since nineteen eighty And what if NSI State
beats your duke team. I mean, that's a team that
hasn't been in a Final four since winning that championship of Alvano.
It's both Edie just air bowled the free throw. I
mean that thing was two feet short of the hoop.
And so now Tennessee is in the driver's seat to
get back in this game. You don't even need a
three at this point, just need a two point basket

(01:47:38):
to make it a one possession game. Forty two seconds
to go. Tennessee with the ball and they are trailing
by five, and they just lean on Connect to do everything.
He drives to the hoop and Edie says, get that
thing out of here. What is that? What is he doing?
Why would you tell you that you're going up against
a seven to four guy on a layup, hold the

(01:48:00):
ball and they got a foul. Now, yes, twenty one
seconds to go, Purdue five point lead, and they are
going to go to the free throw line. I don't
understand that. Again, that to me is coaching. Rick Barnes. Sorry,
you know, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, you've got the
ball down five, so you don't need a three point shot,
and you challenged the tallest and you have Connect doing

(01:48:21):
a layup against Zach Eadie. Yeah. I saw a coach.
It was the Illinois game.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Steve the coach came on and was like clinging from
Yukon was blocking every shovery shot and he was like, no,
that's our game plan to go to keep going right
at him. I was like, okay, you see that didn't
work the first four minutes. Don't do that again because
the guy is not letting you score. This is what
we talk about coaching, right, You got to make adjustment.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
You have to. If it's not working, it's not working,
try give me a plan B. All right, So both
free throws made by produce seven point lead now, twenty
seconds left, and Tennessee is just run out of time.
It's not going to be enough, so they get her
layup time out five point lead, fifteen seconds left. So
it looks like indeed Purdue is going to move on.

(01:49:08):
And that is good news for you and your bracket
and the death noll for me. That's over. I had.
I had my moment in the side, got him in
the run, but Tennessee put me under. I think I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
I think I actually made leap flog leapfrog you right
away today?

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Right? Oh yes, yeah, yeah, that you're way past me.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
You get a lot of points for these Elite eight
teams making it into the final. That's that's a huge
win for you right there. Uh so, I'm I'm left
in the dust. Well, I mean where you can really
separate is obviously not Duke just winning the final four.
We're getting to that championship game. Now, if Duke were
to beat NC State, how do you see a Duke

(01:49:51):
matchup against Zach Edy a great game? Now you got
Philipski Lapowski.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Which is not he won't be behind Edie, but Eddie
won't be able tohind the himon to the end, and
so that would be the intriguing part of it. So
putting Filipowski into action with the pick and roll will
make Edie have to guard. And I would like Duke
chances in that game just because of that. But Edie's
gonna score against everybody. But I would like my dukeies
against that for Duke team, for sure, my duchies.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
I didn't even ask you. I mean, you finally got
rid of Kenny Payne, Yes, who might have been the
worst coaching hire in history. I mean, I see a
Louisville legend back in the day, but I mean what
a disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
It was bad and we I think the excitement from
the fan base was his connections obviously, you know he
was going to bring in top tier talent, but that
it's been a disaster. And I actually went to a game,
which I told you off air, and it was sad
day to be a Cardinal fan. It was really bad.
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
I mean when you were there, I mean that place
is packed every game.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Oh, we were secondary talk about football and basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
We were step cousins for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
Yeah, that's a basketball school. So I knew that I
experienced it right away. This is not your old days.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
All right. Well, they're going to try to take it in,
all right, So Purdue now trying to inbound the ball.
Another foul immediately on Edie and he'll go back to
the free throwing five point late fifteen seconds ago. Purdue
trying to make it into the final four. All right.
Getting back to tomorrow and this matchup between IOWA and
LSU on the women's side, which I think you and

(01:51:24):
I agree will be the most watched women's basketball game ever. Yeah.
In fact, I dare say, considering it's a Monday, not
a lot of competition. Bachelor's over, that's right. You watch
The Bachelor. I do not, But everybody, why back in

(01:51:45):
the day, you would have been such a good bachelor man.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
They must have recruited you hard, right, I'll say a
little bit. They did, and people say it all the time. Yeah,
but I I can't do that. That's just you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Couldn't stand in front of thirty women and just start,
you know, saying goodbye, goodbye, goabye, goodbye goodbye. No, I'm
such a good guys dude. Yeah, I was the latest Batcher,
good guy. And then yeah, and that is it. It
is a final score. Perdue has defeated Tennessee seventy two
to sixty six. So after their embarrassing first round lost
to a sixteen seed a year ago, Perdue is on

(01:52:18):
to the final four since first time since nineteen eighty eighty.
And to tell you how long ago that was, I
was there obviously in Indianapolis. We beat them, beat Ucla.
They still had a third place game in those days.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
And I wasn't even I wasn't even thought of it
at that time. Really, I wasn't even here yet.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
This is what killed me. This is what killed me.
I mentioned this yesterday with Monci. So I'm watching that
Clemson Arizona game and they're mentioning that this is Clemson's
first time to the Elite eight since nineteen eighty And
I'm like, I remember that because UCLA I'm sports editor
and we beat them in the Elite eight to get
to the Final four, and then they go that was

(01:52:57):
forty four years ago. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,
I was there. Yeah, yeah, So for Matt Painter obviously,
much as it was the situation for Virginia, you know,
with Tony Bennett just a couple of years ago, trying
to get the monkey off the back after an embarrassing
loss in the first round as a number one seed.

(01:53:19):
Here he goes there it is Lee Rose. I mentioned
that name to you. Yeah, George King was the coach
at nine sixty nine was their first time in the
final four. They got to the championship game. That year
was when Kareem then known as Luel Sindor, won his
third championship at UCLA. All right, coming up on the
other side, some predictions on what's going to happen in
the game later and some thoughts about what the big

(01:53:41):
stories are going to be in sports this coming week.
This is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve Harmin, Carrie Rhodes, Fox
Sports Sunday live from the tyrack dot Com studios. Want
to thank everyone today Monsey. If you haven't checked out
our Saturday show, it's now an ink by the way.

Speaker 6 (01:54:01):
It is in ink it' it is. We're not going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Carries West Coast times six to seven on the six
to eight on the East Coast every Saturday.

Speaker 6 (01:54:13):
I'm keeping Steve hip.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
You want to keep him hip?

Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like we had to
talk about about Beyonce Kanye West.

Speaker 6 (01:54:19):
You know we're doing it. We're doing hip things.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
So hip and yeah, formed I am so oda you
get it, you get it.

Speaker 6 (01:54:27):
Yeah, he talks about nineteen seventy three and I talked
about twenty twenty three. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:54:33):
That gap is just so your joke, so man, it
is yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I said, it really hit
me with this nineteen eighty thing with Clemson.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Now would Purdue?

Speaker 6 (01:54:45):
And I like right, it was forty four years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Yeah, okay, So anyway, well, well thanks for keeping me updated.
Eate guys. I really appreciate that. Bo Bo. It's been
been a quiet day bow just sort of hanging out today.
I thought we're we're gonna do a little more NFL stuff.
He sort of got a little sidetrack because that turned
out to be a pretty good basketball again. Yeah, that's
the thing. It's all college basketball. So I had Zachie,
by the way, finished the game with forty points sixteen rebounds.

(01:55:13):
Dog Connect had thirty seven points for a Tennessee So
it was definitely a two man show today. Chris h
who has been having refrigerators slash freezer problems. Oh yeah,
please don't tell me about it.

Speaker 9 (01:55:28):
I've been losing sleepover just trying to clean everything out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Yeah, and see, see I never had this problem because
I've never when I've had my own place, I never
have anything in my fridge or my freezer, or my
cupboards or my drawers.

Speaker 9 (01:55:41):
I had time this week to cook for myself. There
was finally time. There was time.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Time, and he had stuff not fair? Not fair? Well, Chris,
I hope it'll be a better week for you. About
a week week. Well, we'll see.

Speaker 9 (01:55:53):
We've got half inning here for the Tigers, and this
will determine how my the rest of my day goes.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Who's a bigger Detroit sports fan? You or John Palmer?
ROSSI pretty even.

Speaker 9 (01:56:03):
So here's the thing is like, I don't have any
connections to the University of Michigan, never have. It's just
been the pro sports for me. And I've never really
cared about hockey either, So I think JP has a
slight adjucation.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
Well, the weird thing about JP is, I mean he's
like this Michigan die hard, except he went to Harvard.
The State of Michigan tests. He left the State of
Michigan to go to Harvard for four years. Yes, but
he has like no allegiance to Harvard. Like it's one
hundred percent Wolverine's Wolverine's Wolverine.

Speaker 9 (01:56:31):
We've talked about over over represented in our industry universities,
and UM.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Is up there. Oh yeah, I mean there's a lot
of UM guys and that most definitely out there. All right,
So give me a prediction here, Carrie on your dookies
going against n C I mean again because it is
a familiar opponent, and I don't know how how did
Duke do against NC State this year? They win both games?
Or no, they won.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
They won won in the regular season and they lost
in the tournament. Some amazing NC State beat Duke. They
beat North Carolina, he did, so NC State is a
good team. I'm not sleeping on them at all. I mean,
I know they have ten losses on the year eleven, yes,
and so they'd had up and down season.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
But this team has skilled players.

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
They got the big guy in the middle, DJ Burns,
which he can play ball, and so I'm a little worried.
But I just think we talked about it earlier. The
run that NC State has been onto a lot of games,
a lot of time, a lot of close games too.
So hopefully that fatigue works in our favor and Duke,
as I say, our our favorite, and Duke pulls it out.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
I remember when Steve Lavin was coaching at UCLA and
he got to the Sweet sixteen five out of six years,
and the only coach during that run. They had a
similar record with coach k and every year they wanted
to fire Steve Lavin because he wasn't winning championships, nor
was he getting to the final four. It was like

(01:57:57):
he went to one Elite eight the rest of the time.
He flame out in the Sweet sixteen for john Shire.
If they lose today to NC State, how bad is
it going to be for him?

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
I don't think it's gonna be as bad as coming
in because they had stumbled down the stretch this year,
losing the first round.

Speaker 2 (01:58:16):
Well, but they're okay, Duke, just getting into the Elite eight.
They are not.

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
But I'm saying that the talk around before this tournament,
the fact that they lost in the first round and
in their tournament, the buzz will starting to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
By into the conference tournaments again. No, I'm with you.
I mean, you know, when you're when you're filling out
brackets and you're trying every different angle, like, do I
look for teams that are hot? There's no, It's all luck,
it really is. It's of every game is a flip
of the coin. We've seen teams that have staggered into
the tournament get on a run and win championships. We

(01:58:49):
see teams that are red hot going in the tournament
and flame out immediately. There's no there's no rhyman reason.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
But I know in those conference tournaments, though, usually the
team that needs it the most wins, right Like the
teams that are on the bubble, they have a little
bit more to play for. Those are the teams that
usually win that tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
You know, I've been fortunate to cover sixteen final fours
that's a lot of fine, lot of final fource And
I've been asked, how does that compare to the let's
say Super Bowl. I've done twenty seven Super Bowls, right,
and it's like night and day. The beautiful thing. And
being a college sports fan as I am, if you're

(01:59:27):
a college sports fan, if you're a college basketball fan,
and you ever get an opportunity to go to the
Final four, do it because you got four schools there
they're celebrating. I mean, obviously one team's going to come
away with a championship, but just getting to the Final
four is such an accomplishment for all these schools, So

(01:59:48):
Alabama and Yukon and now Purdue. I'm waiting on this
Duke NC State game. This is a dream of a lifetime.
It is if you're a college basketball player, to get
an opportunity to play in the Final four, the atmosphere
is second to none. It's it's amazing. It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
I saw my Louisville Cardinals do that while I was
in school, so to be a part of it and
see it, it's nothing like it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
Yeah, yeah, you could have been in the Final four.

Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
I could have been. I chose football, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Yeah, you did, all right. So what's your final score
on this Duke NC State game.

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
Duke wins this game seventy three to sixty three.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Seventy three sixty three. Convincing Blue Devils win all right.
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