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Steve Hartman and Veejay Huskey talk about Netflix’s Receiver, a conspiracy around the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh, how the Chargers might perform this year, surprise teams to make theplayoffs and the case for the Carolina Panthers, FSR MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show, thoughts on the European Championship Finals, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:25):
Starsky and hutch you know, back in the day TV
show Starsky and Huts Hartman and.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Husky, Husky. Sorry man, sw you hear it? You hear
them top Hartman and Husky. Baby he dubbed it, you know, VJ.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I was trying to think about the last time we
actually did a show together. We see each other every
single weekend, obviously, but we did a couple of shows
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes, I know that, yep, two years ago and then
three coming out of COVID when they were trying to
figure out what they wanted to do with me after
filling in a lot for the Yacht couple, they peered
me up with you like back to back Sundays or
sevend Yes, it was. It was going in the college
football season, right, and then last year like a few
Saturday and Sundays they team or something Saday. They must
think we work man. I don't know, you know Hartman
or Huskey. I mean it rolls off.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
The team rights itself, It rights itself. All right, I
want to start with something right now?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Sure and okay, So yesterday doing my show with Monci,
we got into this.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Discussion miss Blanos about.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Who is the best rookie this year in the WNBA,
and I said, well, let's let's there's two ways to
look at something, most valuable versus actual best player. And
so my argument yesterday was this, you got Angel Reese

(01:48):
and obviously have Caitlin Clark. Now, if you're talking about
value to the league, if you're actually talking about who
is the most valuable player in the WNBA, it should unanimously.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Be Caitlin Clark. Because she puts butts in seats. That's
not the way I look.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Say that again. I just want to make sure I
got that right. If she's the most good.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
The most valuable player to the league in terms of
who has value to the WNBA, value to the WNBA
means you are one that is making us money. Putting
butts in seats doesn't necessarily mean you're the best player.

(02:27):
It means you're the most valuable player. And no one
has ever exemplified value to a league more than Caitlin Clark.
But that was my question. Question is who's the best rookie?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I look at Angel Reese and I look at
Caitlin Clark, and I said, here's an interesting note. Each
one of these women is currently leading the WNBA in
one major category. Angel Reese is leading the WNBA in rebounding,
and Kaitlin Clark is leading the.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
League in turnovers.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
In fact, she will be setting a single season record
for turnovers. By the All Star break, halfway through the season,
she will already have more turnovers than any woman has
ever had. But here's where I said, when we talk
about value to the team wind shares. Are you a
big war stat fan? No, neither of mine. But they

(03:19):
have something called the tape on. Yeah, Well they have
the wind share stat.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's an equivalent of war like, in other words, how
many wins do you actually account for for your team?
And since the Sky and the Fever basically have the
same record, Ada Rees has a wind share of two
point six.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Kaylin Clark is at one point one. It's not even close.
So if I were to be asked, who's your rookie
of the year based on game, overwhelmingly it's Angel Reee,
which has been the most valuable rookie in terms of

(03:59):
attention to the league. Obviously it's Caitlyn Clark. Now I
know that you are an Angel Reese fans.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Boo, I'm not a fan. Like we kind of go together.
She just don't know it yet, Like, let's let my
little imaginary you know it's my boo boo. Man, Okay,
so you must have.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I wish you had heard this because you would have
been jumping through your skin saying, finally somebody is speaking
the truth.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I heard you, guys, just said. I listened to you
guys on the way, and what did you think? This
is where I am with that. First of all, the
value to the league thing I punched back at, she's
valuable to the fever. She hasn't been valuable to the
league because it has been valuable to the league. Let
me break it down and explain it to you guys,
because a lot of times and this isn't directed to
any one person. This is directed at the masses. See

(04:41):
we're told in brainwashed, what the kind of thinking? How
to see narratives? And this is the best example I
can watch where I can watch across the board. I'm
to the point now, then why can't we just enjoy
both of them? I may not be a Caitlyn Clark fan,
but I do love the way that her toughness has
stepped up because she was getting punked, she was getting
pushed around, and she was being about it. And then
at one point somebody got to get to her, or

(05:02):
somebody or even herself or dad, somebody say look, this
is what it's gonna be. So you can either power
and you can either complain or you can throw a
little bit back. You can start to find your teammates,
find yourself in a game. You're not gonna dominate like
you did at Iowa. Get that through your head. But
you're still good enough to stay in this league and
be an effective player. She finds players nicely. She'd have

(05:23):
more assistant for teamates, didn't drop the ball. And this
is a non Kaitlyn Clark fan saying this. You know
what I'm saying. I could be objective. Andrew Reese is
my girl. I would just like it if she countroll
ther layups a little more. Some of her offensive rebounds
are off her, all mishots that are terrible attempts. The
value to the league is a false narrative. So it
looks like she's helping really build the league. No, go
look at the ratings. The Fever games are what people

(05:46):
are watching. People aren't really watching all these other games.
Go look at the disparity between the ratings and the
Fever games and all the other games. So don't tell
me she's a value to the league. She's a value
to the Fever in her brand, which is fine, Steve,
she can be that. But this narrative that she's of
value to the league. So how many people watching the

(06:08):
Mystic games?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
How many people are talking about the WNBA before she arrived.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
They're not talking about Once and they're talking about her
and Angel Read they're not talking about the league. Okay,
So if that was the case, we'd be talking about
the Liberty, we'd be talking about Brionna, we be talking
about Wilson. Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Where bottom line is is that they're filling arenas people
aren't Maybe The reason is that maybe there isn't the
full carryover to the rest.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Of the league based on her presence with the fever.
Is is that people that are sampling the WNBA, maybe for
the first time ever, are seeing a lot of what
you just said with ange Rees. She's shooting forty one
percent as a big That seems impossible when most of
your shots are literally under the basshitch. If you watch

(06:58):
this league for the first time, you're realizing, you know,
the cell on the women's game is they play the
fundamental game well, right, they play below the rim. You
know it's not all the spectacular, But then you realize
they don't shoot all that well. Inside the shooting percent
you see blown layups, you see the kind of shots

(07:18):
missed in the WNBA that would happen in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
You're like, dude, out of the line.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
You can't you can't play in the league if you
can't make that shot. And that's commonplace in the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
We can talk about three point shooting right now, Caitlin
Clark barely over thirty percent, And so yeah, I mean,
it is maybe not carrying over because people are saying,
all right, I'm everyone seems to be caught up in
this Caitlin Clark thing. I'm gonna check it out because
everyone else is doing social media and everything else.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I'm watching some of the Kaitlin. I don't know
how long this is gonna last.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Because I look at it, I remember, and I've been
look at I go back my UCLA days, goes back
to Ann Myers. Am Myers has literally been a friend
of mine for over forty years.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I go back to the first.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Final four in women's college basketball history at a poly
pavilion nineteen seventy eight when my Blood bl Bruins, led
by An Myers, won that first national championship Final four championship.
And so I have been there, and I have followed
the progression of women's basketball over the years, and I
keep asking myself, what is it going to take for
this league to get any recognition hall it's been a

(08:25):
money loser. I remember years ago the women were not
happy about their pay and David Sturn, the commissioner of
the NBA, basically flat out told them, you have two choices.
Choice number one is to take what we give you,
or Choice covered two is we fuld the.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
League of media. Done.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
We are That's how it's operating.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So I don't know what's the future of the WNBA is,
but I do know this when I talk about value,
she is given the league, not just the fever, the
league attention that we've ever had before for the WNBA. Now,
whether that's going to have any residual effects, I don't know,
but you know, and look, go back to Tiger Woods

(09:09):
and golf. Right, eyeballs are on golf like never before
with the emergence of Tiger Woods. Did that have a
carryover effect to other players that emerge the stars once
Tiger was off the map?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
The answer is no, absolutely not. No, I watch golf,
absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
But what in the moment right now, she is the
most valuable player in this league by far, not even
close to be in the best. She may not even
a top twenty five player in this league, but in
terms of her value to this league, they have been
given an opportunity that they've never had before and may
never have again.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Like I said, I just still fight back. It gets
it because I see, I look at the numbers, so
numbers don't lie women and men do. Numbers never don't.
And I look at the ratings. People aren't watching all
these other games. So I'm trying to figure out what
this value is to the fever, to her brand. Yes,
and then you have to have a villain, So Angel
Reese is the villain. So everybody's looking at the Chicago's cock.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Is that a conscious decision by Angel rees to attach
herself to Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't know. You'd have to ask her that. I mean,
you have to ask her that, because I think I
think it started, well, it started from the National Championship game.
Why I understand that that's where it started from. She didn't, Yeah,
she did. She did that because she people trash talking sports. Steve,
you and I are old enough to remember where trash
talk was just a part of sports. Now you look
down on it for talking trash like you look like
you're unclassy. And we can go through the tweets and

(10:28):
the stuff Keith Oberman got blown up for class lists
and calling her names and things of that nature, when
Kaitlyn Clark was doing the exact same move to her
opponents during the season and it wasn't an issue. That's that.
That's a different story for a different day. The value
point that I still just point to is that it's
either her or Angel. That's who people are talking to.
The best team in the league is New York Liberty

(10:49):
out there. Any radio guy without looking it up, namely
three starters off that office, name me four starts. It's
it's like, people, we can and we and we know
we can't, but we want to create this narrative that
I just don't agree with. People can do what they
want to do. Steve, I'm just looking at the facts
and the figures, and when I look at the ratings
for the Fever games, and then I look at the
ratings for the rest of the league that don't include

(11:10):
the Fever or the Sky, that's where I go, Okay,
where's this league value coming from? Because they still can't
draw seven thousand. If it's not the Angel Reese or
Kaitlin Clark, they still can't draw eight thousand. This game
got five hundred thousand views, but the Chicago Sky and
the Fever game got one point nine million who were
playing in that game, Angel Rees and Kaitlyn Clark. Listen,

(11:30):
if you want to love either one, pick your side. Fine,
I think.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
How long do you think this is gonna last?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Then?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Because again, if we're not getting after this year because because.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
The young lady from Yukon and then Juju's come like
there's gonna be this is this is just for the moment.
It was created as a narrative. It was created as
a story. America loves you put good guy versus bad
guy no matter what it is, even if it's not
really there. Magic and Bird loved each other, but we
had to make it something. I'm old enough to remember
sitting in the backyard watching my uncle's argue about it,
and I'm watching the games like wow, as a kid,

(12:03):
I can go these guys don't look like they hate
each other, but you guys are making it seem like
they hate each other. But they sat down and had
a documentary in the crew where we talked about how
much they loved each other since day won.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But it went to that level because it was also
Laer Celtics.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
You talk about a perfect storm for the NBA at that.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Time, get it. But it wasn't them, it was everybody else.
That's how I feel about Caitlin Clark and injuries. I
do not think these two ladies genuinely dislike each other.
We've been told to make it that way. So now
we gotta pick us out on the MVP thing. You
know what I would like to see the comedian in me,
Jason Kidd and Grant Hill style. What happened to those
two guys back in ninety four?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
They were tied for the Rookie of the Year award.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's why I love working with this guy.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Give it to both of them, all right, give it
to both of It may well happen.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
We'll see the voting down the line. They both have
been clearly the two dominant.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
By the way, remember Angel Reese was the seventh pick
in the draft and she is certainly outplayed two through six,
so there's no question about that.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
To both have a lot of improvements. To me, well,
Angel is my girl, but man, get your feet together
when you get the ball. She foul hunts a lot.
That's how she misses a lot of.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Low forty one percent shooting it big is not good.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Should be forty. She should be had about forty eight
forty nine percent from the floor right now. And that's
gonna being a diehard fan, all right, she's got to
clean it up. We'll put that aside for a moment here.

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that I watched every second of. And I'm gonna give
you a little background on exactly why these shows now
happen when they could have been happening more than thirty
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Speaker 1 (14:59):
Ste did you watch the movie version of Star Skanhuch
with Ben Stiller?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
And?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh did you like that? No?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
You did it? Oh? God, yeah, I'm one of the
only Now look I'm in the wheelhouse of the actual shot.
Got you. I remember the showing syndication. You probably do.
You remember when it was coming on weekly but a syndication.
I'm the only guy who thinks that movie was good.
Everybody I asked about the movie, they like the movie sucked.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Well, the people that said it sucked were the people who.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Actually watch the show. That's what happens.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, usually when they do movie versions of a long
running television show.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
It doesn't work. I loved it, man, because again, you're
getting you get married.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
If you're watching a regular show. These characters, these actors
have been on the screen for years after years, so
you get used to them. So when you bring in
new actors portraying the same characters, that's when you have trouble.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Like the eighteen You're right, because I thought that movie sucked.
And I watched that show as a kid, faithfully, and
I thought that movie show that.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Was like Cheers, you know, like if you do it, it
would not work. Those are the characters of that shit
Cheers fit.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Oh absolutely. My mom used to I mean she made
us watch it. My mom used to love that.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
In the nineteen eighties, when I was working as the
pr guy for the Raiders, we had a couple of
games on the road against the Patriots when they sucked
way back in the day.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
And so this was during the height of Cheers. So
we're in Boston going.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
To bars, Sam Malone, baby, Yeah, back in the day.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
All right, speaking of back in the day, yes, So
do you remember MTV sports?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Of course? Okay, of course. So this is a true story.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
In the early nineties when I was you know, with
six ninety we were launching this first all sports station
on the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
So this is like nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I get a phone call from a friend of mine
and she is working for MTV. Now, during the eighties,
MTV was just videos. That's basically all they showed videos.
They showed the video after video after video. We were
all for us in the eighties. We were all addicted
to their videos. But now they wanted to expand their programming.
They wanted to actually create shows. And she gives me

(17:08):
a call because she knows I'm a sportscaster and everything else,
and she goes, I want to do like an.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
MTV sports show. Now, this is only a few years
after I had left working for the Raiders organization, the
LA Raiders back in the day. So I gave her
a proposal for a show, and I said, here's something
I think would be interesting to people, and I actually
believe some of these players would be gained to it.

(17:35):
Pull back the curtain, take them out of their uniforms,
and show their actual life off the field. That was
the proposal I laid out to MTV and someone of power. Well,
as it turned out. They went in a different direction.
I want to, you know, offbeat sports, and you know
they did that direction with it. But I gave them

(17:58):
this idea, if you pull back the curtain and actually
see players, especially in football, because when you're in full gear,
we don't even know what these guys look like back
in the day, right unless you had a football card,
he can say, oh, this, that's what the guy looks like, right, exactly.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Know.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
When I was a small kid, I'm not kidding you,
so nineteen, you know, I'm like seven years old, mid sixties.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I get a football card of Jim Brown. I thought
they were the Cleveland Browns because of Jim Brown. And
then I get a Johnny Unitas card and the horseshoe,
the you. I thought that was for Johnny you Knights.
Oh wow, this is how I identify these legends with
our uniforms.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
So here we are.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
And that quarterback series I thought was tremendous. I watched
this with Patrick Mahomes and Kirk Cousins and Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I thought it was a perfect casting where you have.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
The biggest star in the league and then you have
a guy that's sort of like right there in the middle,
and then you have another guy who never really achieved
the start and me, he's getting one more chance to
do it. Now, you say they have a new YES receiver,
So who's in this one?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
This is our standard receiver? Has Davante Adams from the
Las Vegas Raiders. All right, my man, who wants some
of Deebo Samuel from the San Francisco forty nine ers, Yes,
along with his tight end IOWA guy George Kittle and
then Justin Jefferson probably the league's best pound for pounds receivers.
Amron Saint Brown, whose father was a multi time Mister Olympia,

(19:27):
Mister Universe, has a brother that plays for the Bears.
And it was light quarterback and you were.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Talking surema Rock because we were doing his highlights at USC.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, I didn't know. I covered him in high school.
In modern day.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I didn't know if we was going to be that
kind of player coming into the NFL.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
But obviously I knew in high school. I saw him
a modern day. So I was calling high school football
for when Bryce Young was there and DJ Young Galley
was a Saint John's Bosco and those schools. That's a
star cast. Oh absolutely. Halani love Chris Lawyer. There's a kid,
Chris Hudson that's up at Oregon that plays the slot
that was over it there at that time too. But
this thing, this thing's great, man, it does and it's
kind of like what you said, it's all set up.

(20:03):
Davante is the married guy with two kids. He's married,
got a big, beautiful house out there, two kids, kittles,
Mary hold On.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Doesn't Devonte Adam have like a taco bell in his
house when he saw Yeah, yea, yeah he does.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
He Actually there is an episode where he talks about that,
that how that sponsorship came.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Before we go further, Brown fran, yes, Well, for yeah,
I was gonna say I'm in that same boat as VJ,
because I definitely saw him at USC and I stumped constantly,
and when they drafted in for the Lions, that was.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
An interesting moment.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
But I do have to point out another huge star
of this, which is I'm on Ross's saint Brown's father,
John Brown. Yeah, it was a two time Mister Universe,
three time Mister World Bodybuilder extraordinaire. But I will never
get out of my head that clip of him sitting
in ford Field talking about you know, crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
We'd heard crazy stuff. He picked.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
He picked a fight with like Kevin Durant randomly in
The Lion's Hard Knocks and he's in there talking about
how Coca Cola is better than Gatorade because, in his words,
Coca Cola's got energy.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And then he even.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Texts, I'm un raw. It's like at halftime, drink cod now.
Now Chris will talk to that dog. I am.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'm with you. He's not the start of show, though.
The start of the show is. The starter show is
Claire Kittle. Thank you, She's the start of show.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Killing Claire.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
You let me tell you something, Monty is. Let me
tell y'all something. Men, listen, watch Receiver. Find you a
woman like that and you'll be fine. I promise you.
You will have no worries as a husband and a
father in life.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
That make and George she gets they look so different.
She gets it. But she was an athlete in her.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Know that nobody. That's why. That's why this is great.
I didn't know Monty. That's why these stuff is great.
I'm a big Claire Kittle fan. I'm a big I've only.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Watched the first two episodes, right, Yeah, so I've only.
I mean, I don't care about spoilers and watch it even.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know me, so yeah, you know I'm going to.

Speaker 7 (22:03):
I watched the first two episodes. I already followed followed
Claire separately. Wow, now I love her even more.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
But I was already a fan of hers the little
I knew, I was already a fan of hers.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
He's a perfect They're perfect match.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
They really really are. They compliment each other.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
But like VJ said, she is his support he says
in this first episode, So if you haven't seen it, sorry,
but he's like, she doesn't miss a game, not an
away game, not a home game.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
She is at every single.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
She also makes a fashion statement for the game beautiful, gorgeous.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
She is his support system, which is such a beautiful
thing to say.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
The best part about it, the very and the best
thing she does every game. So was she taps some kiss,
tap some own ass, go kick some mass. Yeah people
don't understand like that really that resonates in him that
this is my wife, not my coach, my tight end coach,
not a fan. My wife is tapping me. Okay, but
I love you. Now go kick some ass. And I
love that about her.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I want to hear more about this, but first let's
find out what is trending right now.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Claire is trending. MIC's already on, so let's roll here.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Hey listen.

Speaker 8 (23:10):
Also, the party bus, they have a part. She has
a party bus that she takes to every home game,
like girl, you, I love you, Ken, can I date you?
Like You're so amazing? She really really gets it.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm with you on that, BJA, off the air, I
can tell you my own party bus situation.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I can't say, well.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
You know, yes, yes, say it off air to BJA.
I'm sure I've heard of something already off the air.
All right, Well, let's.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Start in baseball, fellas a full slate of games going
on right now. The Orioles holding onto their lead over
the Yankees three two, top of the ninth inning in Baltimore.
The Red Sox have added some more runs, so they're
beating the Royals four to one, bottom of the third.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
Rafael Devers with a two run shot.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
Trey Turner on fire this month, eight homers in twelve games.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
He just hit a solo shot.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
But the A's have just taken the lead over the
Phillies two to one, top of the fourth, up on
the Guardians one zero. They're about to start the fifth inning.
The Rockets with the two zero lead over the Mets.
Bottom of the fourth inning, a couple of hits for
the Dodgers, they Alsot Hernandez and the PAHs, and now
they're beating the Tigers three zero, top of the fourth inning.
But Dodgers starter Yoshinobu Yamamoto has been moved to the

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sixty day I l inactive until at least August sixteenth.
You know, Bo, Ryan and I have a Dodgers podcast
and we talked about this a couple of days ago
where we're like, the silence on Yamamoto is very loud.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, I mean glass now is down. I mean their
pitching staff has unraveled. And we said this was the critical.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Point going into the season. You signed show.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Hey, it's great, right, great, one more big bat in
the lineup as you're pitching. Look, we don't have a
timetable on Kerkshaw. Sil Nope, Dustin May is done till
the year.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
The year Bobby Miller off John where is he a
Bueller somewhere in Florida?

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Apparently we're on his arm. Yeah, like we are a mess.
But right now we're winning.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Right now, so weak there you go.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
It's you know, it's kind of like also similar to
right the NBA, creating a team sometimes doesn't work the
way you think it's going to work, and so that's
that's what the Dodgers are right now going through. Obviously
we start the whole half of the season, so we'll
see what happens. Marlins and Red scoreless, top of the fifth,
White Sox beating.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
The Pirates one zero, bottom of the second.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
The Rangers are beating the Astros VJ two zero, bottom
of the second. Vers with the early lead over the
Nationals one zero, top of this second as well.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
In Wimbledon, of course, I'm not surprised. I'm saying this.
Carlos Alcaaz does it again. Defeats Novak Djokovic for.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
The second year in a row in the Championship, this
time in straight sets.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
He's only twenty one guys, only a bat.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I mean, this is this is the future of tennis.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
And it's good on the men's side because now they
do have a new star after feder and Nadal and Djokovic.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
We need a start.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
We got one and out for yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
On the women's side. They don't have bleep hey yeah, yeah,
they wanted to be Coco, but they wanted to be Coco.
But she can't come through. She's got something the biggest
stage in tennis. Yeah, she's never made the quarters.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
W Yeah, yeah, I agree with you VJ.

Speaker 8 (26:16):
So I was surprised she was bumped out as early
as she was in the women miss permanently.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm not sure it is the sumings.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Up agreed in the w NBA. The sun are all
over the Mercury.

Speaker 8 (26:26):
Seventy four fifty three is the score with about eight
minutes to go in the game, and then sad news
out of the NFL. Former Ravens receiver and Super Bowl
champion Jacoby Jones passed away at the age of forty.
According to KPRC television out of Houston, he passed away
overnight in his sleep.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
No cause of death has been announced yet.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
He played nine seasons in the NFL became the first
player to score a receiving touchdown and return touchdown in
the same game in Super Bowl history. That was in
twenty thirteen when the Ravens defeated forty nine Ers thirty
four to thirty one, and.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
His one hundred and eight yard kickoff return in night
game is still the longest scoring play in the history
of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
That's when they pulled the plug on the power to
slow them down because they were on the verge of
blowing the Niners out of that they were blowing. We're
on the verge of blowing because that's the kick off
that starts the second half.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
You didn't see Jim Harbaugh pull the pull the plug
on his brother there to Beyon halftime.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
I mean, who else would you know?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Take I remember that game close?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Was that catch of Crabtree that would have won the
game from Kaepernick.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
To It was right there. It was right there. It
was right there. It was right there.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I was rooting for the Ravens in that game. You
know why I was rooting for the Ravens. I had
actually met Ray Luke. We had Ray Lewis in studio.
I've said this many many times, Monce, Thank you very much, Jess.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
So when we talk about leader, by definition, a leader
is someone that inspires others to follow.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
That's the definition of a leader. In other words, you
inspire others to follow, That makes you a leader. This
is not something that can be manufactured, No it has
to be something about you. So I had ray Lewis
in study, and he's a controversial figure to say the least.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
But you spend five minutes with.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Ray Lewis in person, you're following this guy.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I mean, he has such a power in his personality,
in his convictions, in his commitment.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
To the game as he had back in the day. Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
And to see him go out on top, you know,
obviously I was also an Ed Reid fan. Who's the
greatest safety in the history of the National Football League.
His numbers don't lie. I mean, when you look at
you can talk, you can you can have that one.
Oh Ed Reave, Yeah, you can have that one.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
No one's like that. That He averaged like twenty six
yards of return on every air interception he ever had.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
So to see those guys come out on top and
that I was rooting for them. I was rooting because
of ray Lewis over the forty nine ers of that game.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I was rooting because I'm from the DMV area, and
I don't know, I knew a lot of Raven fans.
I was always pulling my Homeboys fan. My team's not
in it. I don't like to sit and watch my
boys team losing him going pain. I'm much rather him
be happy and then we can all do shots after
the game and everybody's happy. So I was pulling for
him too. But I'm a big Harbor. I'm a big
Jimmy Burger's guy. So I'm glad. I'm glad that he
is back in the well.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
You know this was totally you know how this Harbor
situation came down with the NFL. Don't say with the Chargers.
You know, this is exactly what they'll Everyone will deny
this till they're blue in the face. So I went
to I took my two sons, are big Chargers fans,
and I thought, instead of going to game at so Fi,

(29:38):
let's go to I want to go to a Llegiance
Stadium because I haven't seen it, you know, a former Raider.
I want to see the whole set up in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
We went to that game, the last game of Brandon
Staley's career, forty two nothing Raiders.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
At halftime, yeah, the death Star.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
And as we are leaving Vegas the next morning, the
word comes down. Obviously, Brandon Staley, Tom te Lesca of
the GM have been five and Bernie Fratto calls.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Me, that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
So Bernie calls me Barney. He goes, hey, Steve, I
know you're the Raiders guy. Can you come on my
show tonight? Or the Chargers guy? You know everything about
the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Can you come on my show tonight? I said sure.
So that night, the night that Staley was fire.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Remember this is in December, you know, Bernie comes on
with me and you know, late night, and he's like
talking about all these replacedment I go, stop, Bernie, stop.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
The next coach of the Chargers will be Jim Harbaugh.
This is before he won the national chat.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
This is in December. Yeah, one hundred percent. He goes, well,
how can you be so certain, I said, because now
the league has stepped in. The League has stepped in.
They're gonna take charge of this La franchise that is
failing to deliver a freebie. And that's what the Chargers
have been handed a freebie by the league. They then
paid one penny in the relocation money. They didn't generate

(30:55):
one money, one penny toward the building of that stadium.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
They have had a free ride and it is over.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
So when it came down to the hiring Harbor.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
You remember, right at the end the actual day and
it was announced that Harba was hired.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
You know, he had Don Yee as.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
His agent, the superagent, right, he had been given a
lot of guarantees by the league about the kind of
deal that Jim harr was going to get.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Well, the Chargers were beginning to hedge a little bit,
and Jim.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Harbaugh literally had one door out, one foot out the
door until little phone.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Calls made allegedly to the league to straighten out the mess.
And it was straightened out immediately, which is why when
they had the introductory press conference introduced Jim Harbor as
the new coach of the Chargers, Dean Spanners looked like
he was gonna throw up because that coach's salary.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Is coming out of his pocket.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, he'll be all right, and well, he'll be all right,
but he wasn't feeling it because he didn't have that
cash on hand.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
His values only on the value of having an NFL team.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
So I wish Jim Harbaugh all the best. I'm a
big Jim Harbaugh fan. His record speaks for itself. But
I'll tell you what he has inherited a dog get
They got Justin Herbert, and they have nobody to throw too.
They have no receivers, they have no tight end, they
have no.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Running in and they have He's got tight ends. He's
got par he's got tight ends. Uh, really fast on
hardball too. I'm gonna post the video. I was on
Spectrum Sports Net back in December, and this is before
the Alabama game and there it was before the Rose
ball and UH my shout out to my guy Timothy
over there. Timothy had me come on to do a
football uh segment, and he asked me the question, where

(32:39):
did the Chargers go with the hire. I'm gonna post
the video because it was on l A TV for
our special sports net. And I told him that day,
I said, I think I showed it the Manzie Monsie scene.
I said it to her phone, send to some other people.
I think both had seen it too. I told him,
I said, there's only one guy you hire. There's only
one guy you hi. It's Joseph Jacob Harball. That's the
only guy you hire. You don't hire, you don't even
interview anybody else. He you know, you want, you know,

(33:01):
he wants to be here. He has ties in this
state with the Niners and with San Diego University Stanford
go ahead, let him coach is fourteen here. So I
was right along with you, Bernie, and I talked about it. Also,
the league made this higher. It was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
After what the Chargers and hire Previaly with the Mike
McCoy's and the Anthony Lyns and the Brandon Stales, where
they're spending no money on their coach. Absolutely, the NFL said,
you are gonna spend We need to get you guys relevant.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
We need eyeballs on the team in Los Angeles. This
ain't San Diego anymore.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
No, this is LA and there's a lot of competition.
I always tell people there's a lot of comp in
this town. USC UCLA, the Lakers, the Kings, the Dodgers,
the Angels, hell the MLS soccer team draws out here,
lay red carpets, movie premiere, celebrity stuff. They shoot every
movie out here, they shoot every reality show out here.
You could go sit on Sunset Boulevard and have brunch

(33:55):
and see any celebrity come pull up in the Lamborghinia
for iay come out. But you there is competition out here.
And when LA was bad in football. If you're bad
here in November on Sunday, I don't have to sit
in traffic.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Then has been a zero MG. Even when the Rams
in November.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
In La Okay on the Sunday. If your football team saw.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
This is the only city in America that has an
NFL team, that the NFL team is not the biggest
team in the in the city.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
You think the uh you think the Giants are bigger
than the Yankees. Yes, the New York Giants are. Maybe
not the Yankees, I know not not the bum ass jestes.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
We know that.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Well, I mean the NFL.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Look at you look where the Yankees are. Look at
it in terms of history. No, but in terms of
the impact of any NFL.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I'm just asking. I just Giants over the okay, but
in La Nolaker Dodgertown, Okay. All right.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
On the other side, I still want to get back
to this receiver.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, we'll go all right. Uh, keep it right here.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
You are listening exclusively to the show everyone is talking
about right now, Hartman and Husky. This is Fox Sports Sunday.
Hartman and Husky. Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live
from the Tirak dot Com studios. All right, as I
knew we would. We're gonna get sidetracked on several stories
over the course of the show today.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Oh you and I do though, Man, we kind of
spider web it. We do well, That's always the way
I do it.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
You know a lot of people, Look, when you work
with me, you understand, and you've worked with me and
everybody that's ever sat next to me, which is pretty
much everybody in this building and then some. I can
honestly say, am I thirty five years of doing sports
rock radio that I've worked with more co hosts than
anyone in the history of sports talk radio. I think
there's any question about that. But as far as the

(35:44):
game plan is concerned, the game plan is simple. I'm
gonna take you in a certain direction I trust, and
certainly someone like VJ I know I can trust that
any direction I'm gonna go, He's gonna have plenty to
say on that subject matter. I do want to get
back to the show A receiver, all right, So again
the idea of pulling back the curtain. This is the

(36:05):
genius marketing that is never ending in the National Football League, right,
I mean, you had you know, you've had behind the
scenes shows to open up the door to give you
a little you know, the Hard Knocks series, which isn't
what it used to be. But when it first happened,
and they would take these obscure guys, they're gonna get
cut ultimately, and we get to know them a little

(36:26):
bit and then they get you know, the cut and
everything else. That was sort of a novelty at the time.
But I loved what I saw on that Quarterback show.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I love. I'm gonna obviously watch this Receiver show as well.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
But when you when you watch these guys, because when
you label professional athletes today, a lot of people immediately
think about the money. Right, Well, gee, if I were
making tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars,
how easy my life would be. I wouldn't have a
worry in the world.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
And when you pull back the curtain and you understand
whether you're a family guy or a young single guy,
you're going through the exact same process that everyone else is.
Maybe you got a lot more money in the bank,
but that doesn't change personalities or interaction with other people.
And I think things have been valuable in essentially making

(37:21):
these zillionaire athletes a little more accessible to the average
football fan.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, and that's what receiver did. Because what quarterback did
is it made me appreciate Pat Mahomes more. Oh the
workout I got her. Thank you. There you go. See God, Man,
we don't have to say it. It's just like telepathic.
I tell people, get rid of the stupid all that's
luck narrative. No, it's not. The man literally stands on
the boozoo ball and leans to the left and pulls

(37:48):
a cable from the right and has a weight in
his arm in the in the left like he does
this stuff. It's not an action.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
They say, well, you know he's a freak he can throw.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
No, he's not a freak. He this this stuff he trains.
And it made me, even though not a KC fan,
not a Mahomes guy, but I respect the living hell
out of that man because the work he puts in
to put his body in the product on the field,
football being my favorite sport, I respect that. I'm around
Saint Brown is the same type of deal Chris talked

(38:18):
about his dad. The guy was bitching. He had him
bitching before the kid can read. I mean, he's a freak.
He is a freak. Something else I took from this too.
Can we get rid of the narrative that you can't
hit and tackle in football anymore? Because these guys get
banged up all year long. These guys taking his debo,
had his deebo, had his classical cracked, Like, it's not
an easy sport to play. Guys, we're not flagged. I

(38:39):
hate what? Oh what are we gonna do? Put flags on? No,
you're not, because I'm watching this thing and you hear,
especially when you hear the sounds, when you hear the boom,
you here the body's crash and it's like, wow, that
looked like a soft tackle when I watched it live,
but hearing it and then hearing the guy lay on
the ground go and then it gets up. It goes
back to the hud on the teams like you straight. Yeah, man,

(38:59):
you you don't know that until, like you said, the
curtain gets pulled back justin. Jefferson is the single guy,
no girlfriend. It's all about him and his dad eats
a ton of candy. That's why he pulled his hamstring.
The kids stopping all can Lynch going outstad two shots
of Hennessy before every game too is he told Peyton
Fanny but uh, And then you have a Deebo Samuel

(39:21):
who has the the living girlfriend but has his little
has his son. He I think I became more of
a fan of Debo through this bro. He really is
a level headed, grown man. He understands his role. His
girlfriend was talking about when he had his son. She
goes it changed him. It really it softened him. He's
it's not just football football football. He gives us time.

(39:41):
There's time he watches his film, you know, showing him
like watching film rewinding. Then and it's time he's with
us with the TV's off and he's playing with the kid.
And it really does pull the curtain back. Like you said,
money doesn't mean anything, guys, is we all got the
same problems. We all got to put our pants on
one leg at a damn time. And just because you're
rich and you got a lot of money, like Biggie
Small's once said, more money, more problems. The more money

(40:03):
you have, the more issues you have. So I employ
you man, knock it out before the season starts. It's great.
Quick sidebar Raiders need to move on from DeVante Adams.
You're gonna see why when you watch this, they need
to move on from DeVante Adams. They need Devonte Adams. No,
they don't.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I mean I understand why he went there.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Obviously you want to night with his boy Derek Carr
from their fres Noo days. But watch it, and you
watch it when we where do you how do you
replace a Davonte Adams.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
You need to start. You're starting over anywhere. You got
a new coach. You gotta do you let you let
Josh Jacobs go.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
If you're gonna strip the Raiders of their number one
receiver for.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
What, there's seams out there that'll give you some point.
Oh come on, well we'll see. I'll be gone by
the trading deadline. You guys heard it.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Here.

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by the way, Harbin and Husky is a show that
continues on during the breaks. Well, I never stopped talking,
and neither is. So neither of us stopped talking. He
just continue on with the rambling through. I mean he's

(41:20):
extending his hand to try to make a bet with me. Okay,
you know what the bet was.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
So he is a believer that the LA Chargers, that
Jim Harbaugh is going to instantly turn around a team
that is now without their top receivers, without a running back.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
They really have a young quarterback who, by the way,
is a five hundred quarterback in his young career. Herbert
is not the quarterback now that he was two years
ago when he was voted at Pro Bowls starter.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
To me, the jury is still out. Montembo jump in
on this jury is still out.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
If Herbert is that rare quarterback that can deliver in
the fourth quarter. I've been watching Herbert the last couple
of years in the fourth quarter. He's been given opportunities
to win games and he's not.

Speaker 8 (42:05):
So it's funny because yesterday, Steve, remember when we were
talking during the break that there's always a team that
surprises every year in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (42:15):
I was going to tell you the Chargers is the
team that I thought was going to.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Surprise, said, really surprise. The whole world's jumping on the
Jim Harbaugh bandwagon.

Speaker 8 (42:24):
Well you're not.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
And I love Jim Harbor as a coach. I think
eventually he'll get this right, but not this year.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
I think it's going to be a quick, a quick turnaround.

Speaker 9 (42:36):
I agree with youj So justin Herbert isn't clutch, is
what you're saying. No, so they were bringing a different
quarterback in in that Raiders game. They kept converting all
the fourth and.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Okay, that was back long again. Take a look at
the last two years. You want to you want to
talk about that playoff game against Jacksonville. How was that
second half?

Speaker 9 (42:55):
Well, I mean, how much of that was him? And
how much of that was how much was him?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's what I always love about this is so you
have a situation like Herbert just absolutely yacked it up
in that second half to allow Jacksonville to get back.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
In that game.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
And they're like, wow, it was a play calling, man.
I mean, you can't you can't overcome the play calling.
I think sometimes though quarterbacks we put too much on
their plate. Like I remember watching I was at the
Lions Chargers game, and like again that that game was
primarily lost because the Chargers defense was bad. But also
I think one of the reasons people are high on
Jim Harbaugh going to the Chargers is that it is look, you,

(43:32):
you can't just be a one dimensional offense. And I
think taking some of that off Herbert's plate will allow
him to be greater by doing more but needing to
do more on less plays too. Like, okay, but with
who you have to have guys at the scale position?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Look at the forty nine ers, right, we talk about
you know brock Party in this incredible rise island.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Who has more weapons than he has with the forty
nine ers?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Wait, anybody, but what weapons?

Speaker 9 (44:03):
Maybe the Eagles? I think?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Okay, can I can I go now? Wow?

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Let everybody? Can I go now? So I can shut
this all down? All right? So listen, I'm gonna go
buy history. I'm gonna go by what we've seen. I'm
gonna go by see what's what's been done. University of
San Diego, Stanford, the Niners, Michigan.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Stop Michigan six years to be Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
That doesn't matter matter that. It doesn't matter. Yes, because
you take a program for years that beat Ohio. See
what I finish. You take a program that won five
games coming in, you give him ten wins the first
three years in a row.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
That is turning a program around. Yes, first four years
looks like Brady Hoak to me.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yes, it No, it didn't look like Brady Hok to
you because Brady Holk Brody Ohio State. Brady Hog won
one Bowl game early with Denar Robinson and the Sugar
Beam because Virginia Tech through the game.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Look at Jim Harbull's bull Reker his first five years.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
It doesn't I'm not care about his first five years.
Did he turn the program around?

Speaker 6 (44:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I know, well, and that's what I'm saying with the Chargers.
Give him five years. But you're talking about some immediate
turnaround exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
We're gonna see him have the safe stop that they
won five games last year. I said during the break,
I give him eight or nine wins. That is that
is turning you. That is turning a team around that
one five you know where they win nine games? Absolutely,
they can win nine games this year. You kidding me.
Let's go to Justin Herbert. I'm with you on that

(45:23):
bow and I'm with Chris on that a lot of times. Look, Stanley,
do the thing about trying to blame Justin Herbert for
that game is people want to Staley fired during that season.
But now we get to this game where they got
this big leader and we're gonna throw it on the
quarterback for the coach that everybody hates and should be fired. Okay,
so let's start there. Don't tell me about receivers. Tell
me Jim Harbaugh's best receiver he's ever had in his

(45:44):
coaching career. I'll give it to you. It's Michael Krabtree
with the forty nine ers. Tell me it's big time
receiver out in Michigan. He doesn't need that. They're gonna
be more physical at the point. They have two of
the top tackles in football. They have a really good defense.
I think you move on from both defense. Yeah, yes, yo,
guys are healthy. I mean linebacker. Look, I mean everybody's hurt.
Bosos hurt, dur was hurt. They guys knocked out. Is

(46:07):
yesterday's news.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I know that. Just say they need to move over him.
After the season. They're gonna move on from him, but
you gotta get some of the some of the rubbish
out of there. They're gonna be more physical. I think,
what Harbor would you do? Time? Yes, but they're not
gonna be a nine win team, you know, like I
like eight or nine wins, just saying five wins again,
there's no way they're winning five games. Okay, if they
win five games, then that contract that justin Harper is

(46:29):
ridiculous because it's for fifty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yesous if they win, but he's a five hundred quarterback,
just like his predecessor, Philip Rivers. It's amazing about Philip Rivers,
and I on a personal level, I loved Philip Rivers.
He was the Gollie g father of ten Now ten kids.
Imagine ten kids that just absolutely bind.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
But let's let's thread this needle.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I I don't know what they're gonna do on wins,
just because and I think this is going to be
a growing pains year for them, because they have had.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
A lot of spots across across the rust of the
need to patch up.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
But I think there will be a game that will
go against what Steve is saying that there will be
a game where we can point to and say Justin
Herbert won that game.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
For the Los Angeles Chargers, they they play, they have
a pretty tough schedule. I think the AFC is stat
they have. They have a road game at the Panthers
in week two. I think they probably win that one.
And they have a road game at the Cardinals in
the middle of October. They probably win that one. Everything
else is like divisional or at the Steelers. Y.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I got news for you.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
There's gonna be growing pains. This this is this is
a process. This is the Charger organization. This is an
organization that only wins by accident, it's never by game plan.
That's why the hiring of Jim Harborow is orchestrated by
the league to try to get this right. Because the
Chargers register a zero in the city of Los Angeles

(47:48):
and the league is trying to move their entire operation
to LA. They got Sofi Stadium, they got everything going,
except they have a team that literally registers a zero
in the market. You gotta change the coach. Great hire,
it's gonna it's going to be a process. Well, Jim
harb I don't think will be successful. I don't think
that losses or no change what the Chargers are in LA.

(48:10):
That is a you moved the wrong team to l
A problem. Well that was that was part of the deal.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Should have been the Raiders and Rams should have been
here and Chargers should have stayed in San Diego on
that point of but I'm just gonna I'm still gonna
talk this. I'm still gonna stand.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Kronkey basically threaten to sue the league unless he gave
him l A and that Jerry Judge, Jerry Judges reminded
all the owners about the money that was behind Kronkey.
His wife is part of the Wholton fortune, and so
he said, let's not mess with this guy.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Give it to him.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
Steve, you're not a big lad McConkey guy.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Maybe he'll be a superstar, maybe big Who could I
said last year I said the Rams would be the worst.
I was right on that list, the worst team in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
That was after a conversation I actually had with a
Ram player that said the problem with our team we
have no depth.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Hiram Williams, are you kidding me? But what happened here?
He's a Pro Bowl running back? What happened here?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
In Pro Bowl.

Speaker 9 (49:05):
I think the Chargers overall have the best one to
two round pick of any team in the draft. To
be honest with you, I love the Joe All pick.
Lad McConkie is a better takeaway than I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Well, I don't know about, but I do know Le.
I mean yeah, and I'm with you with Slater. Slater,
I mean, you've got bookend tackles for the next decades.
They're more physical. One thing Harball does do you guys
can't deny once again. Put the tape on. They're more
physical the minute he's they're more physical, and they're more
fundamental the minute he takes the job. It's it's it's in.

(49:37):
It's in the proof of what he's done. Guys. We
can all throw out certain games and certain teams. That's
not what I'm saying. I'm telling you the turnaround starts immediately,
because that's how football is won. Football is won in
one or two places. On the offensive line, in the
defensive line. He never fails there. He's never failed there,
no matter where he's been. And he's got two book

(49:57):
and tackles to run the football. Throw it tight ends.
I don't want to hear about names and receivers. Tell me,
once again, tell me his receivers over his coaching career.
Somebody remind me of average guys, and you get a quarterback, Joe.
Once again, if Justin, If this is not supposed to
be a quick turnaround, and you're telling me Justin Herbert's
not the guy.

Speaker 9 (50:15):
I think there's something to the idea of lessons more
with Justin Herbert, because you're.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
They're gonna slow it down. Well, he's definitely got less
so they're gonna slow it down. Bro, they're gonna dance. No,
there you go. I said it a few I think
you might have been doing the show a producer show
with Martin not where I brought that up. I said, look,
they're not gonna get they're not gonna win track meets.
So they're not winning thirty eight, thirty six. We know that,
but that's not what hardball teams do. They pound you,

(50:40):
they beat you up, they get physical with you. They're
gonna be a stronger team. He brought the strengthen conditioning
guy from Michigan down Ware. They talked about how they
rearranged the weight room so that as you're even racking
the weights back. It is a way to work the
bi These are things guys in football that matter on
the field.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
And it's not a joke that it's happened and everywhere
he's been. Yeah, it's like I was saying earlier. Sometimes
when you have a competent run game and a physical
game to go with it, it makes the.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Quarterback better Again. And like I look at Jared Goff,
I look at Detroit.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I look at what they had to do like that
first year, the football and rough, but yes, once they
got a ground game going, Look what Jared Goff can
do when he's got a play action working for him.
Look what happens when you have a rounded offense rather
than just go asking a guy go out there.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
To go out there and just win it. For this
is the eighties. This is a I'm a Dolphin fan,
lifelong Dolphin fan, nineteen eighty three. I grew up as
a kid watching a coach ask a quarterback to go
win it for me. How did that work out for Miami?
Tom Brady needed a run game. They're gonna be more
physical guys.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I just love the fact. And again this is coming
from a Jim Harbaugh fan. Howeveryone ignores his first six
years in Michigan. I'm not ignoring bull win, four ball losses,
zero wins against Ohio State. Urban Meyer did a beatdown
on him on an annual then Ryan Day continued to
beat him down two great years down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
That's what we had where and how do you how
do you leave?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
He left on top, which is a very smart move
by but the ideas Again, he did not do any
immediate turnaround.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
The straight conference championships in the Big Ten first time done,
not by Woody Hayes, not by bo. It took him.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
It took him seven years to get to the top
of the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
So you're telling us so going from going from four
wins to ten wins in one years not a turnaround.
I'm just asking, I just want to know where your
mythology is with this.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Again, he was not The idea Michigan is to beat
Ohio State and vice versa. Okay, that's not the Remember
what Jim Trestl was, Remember what that?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
But that is what the what what Michigan fans want
in an immediate turnaround, beat Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Okay, but we're not worried about what the fans want.
We want, we want what's real and what's on the table?
When you go from four to ten wins three years
in a row, is it not turning a program around
even though you can't beat the rival? Did you not
turned the program around him?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Because you didn't get to you were third place in
the East.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
All the Chargers win ten games, but they don't beat
the Chiefs. It's not a turnaround the expectations.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
So the Chargers are very minimal, one of the worst
organizations in all the NFL.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
They ever get to Harbor? Did Harbor get to a show?
I'm asking you due the Chargers ever get.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Super Bowl with Harball? I believe it, Jim Harbor. But
it's gonna take South.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Not a year one, not year one? E Moore wins
for the Chargers, guys, no chance, no chance.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Anyone want to bet that the Chargers win nine plus
games they have a winning record next year?

Speaker 1 (53:37):
No, I got eight or more. I'm not not not
not plus nine. I said eight or more wins. Now
now we're down eight? Yeah, said eight or nine wins? Okay,
you know what, fun I'll stay at nine nine. That's
a winning record. Nine and eight, nine or more wins
for the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Anybody buying the Chargers at nine and eight next.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Year, anybody wants to do a two leader bet or
a wing bet, I'm here two leader. I like sugar
free ginger, lease it.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
And again I think give Harbor time Canada driver seats,
stay out of the way and it will figure this out.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
But not in your one. I will continue on. You're
gonna hear, You're gonna hear, Steve, and I don't want
to know hard feelings down the road. We're friends, man,
We're Corley's I love you, brother. You're gonna hear this
so much from me, Bro, I'm telling you right now.
All right, Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
On the other side, I want to every year we
have a team like the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
We're a year all right, got you? All right?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
You on the other side, give me that team that
is on nobody's radar.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
And believe me, the.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Chargers are on people's radar because they have Jim Harbaugh. Okay,
give me a team that is on zero radars that
you tell me is gonna have the biggest leap year
to year in terms of wins from twenty twenty three
to twenty twenty got all right, We'll have that on
their side.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Harvin Husky, Yes, Sir Fock
Sports Sunday. Once again, we are live from the tai
Iraq dot Com studios. I get anything's revved up here
on this Sunday as always all right, So before we
went to break because every single year, Actually it's interesting
how this works. As I was doing a little back

(55:04):
research on this, it really comes down to almost every
single year, based on preseason expectations, there are five or
six teams each year that do way better than we expect. Yeah,
and there are five or six teams every year that
conversely do way worse than we expected. I mean last year,

(55:26):
the two teams that really stood out were obviously the Texans.
I mean, if you would just say, would you bet
every penny you have that the Texans are going to
be a playoff team before that season with a rookie quarterback,
a rookie coach, anonymous skill guys like, no chance, no way,

(55:47):
no how. The Rams were pretty close. The Rams are
coming off an awful year. It looked like they were
just winding things up. They had sold the future in
terms of any kind of depth or anything else to
win that souper, which they were successful in doing so.
Now they had to pay. Yeah, and yet Kyram Williams,
you know Pooka to go on what happens. So every

(56:09):
single year, you're gonna get a number of teams. But
I'm gonna ask you for a team. And I'm looking
for a team that nobody is talking about right now.
I'm out talking about winning a super Bowl, but making
the playoffs. Yes, making the playoffs. Give me a team
right now that no one is picking to make the

(56:30):
playoffs in twenty twenty four that you think would like
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Hey, Perfet, you got your Arizon Baby, you're listening right now.
This is for you. This is for you, Minnesota Vikings.
I like the Minnesota Vikers to have a big, big
bounce back year. Detroit has still to class of this division.
Chris Detroit, Detroit. Hey, you got me last year, brother,
salute to you.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
You know me.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I take my L's, I'll take my WS two. I
take my Victory Labs two. You got me last year
you called Detroit to win the division. You got a brother,
and I think you guys win the division this year.
I love I love that team, but I think the
Vikings have a big bounce back this year. They lost
Kirk Cousins and they lost Justin Jefferson. They lost their
two most important players last year. Right when they were
hitting their stride, they got added the gate a little slow,

(57:13):
but right when they were hitting their stride, the hamstring comes.
He goes on I R and then right after that
the achilles blows. And in the documentary, the doctor said,
as soon as he touched down on the ankle of Kirk,
he looked up and tod him, is your achilles? You're
done for the year, Like right then and there before
they get to the locker room. Ain't a right none, No,
his achilles is gone. Yeah, he's done for the year.

(57:34):
That they played four quarterbacks last year, and I think
that you bringing Aaron Jones who's got a chip on
his shoulder and still got some juice running the ball
left in the tank. I love the receiver Corps and Osbourne.
Jordan Addison won the Blitt the Call Award for Pitt
before he went to USC. The kids legit Justin Jefferson.
People think are the is the best receiver football. TJ.
Hackinson is a top five ride receiver. By the way,

(57:57):
Justin Jefferson is the best wide receiver in football. It's
a coin flip for me either giving either him or
Tyreek Hill, because Tyreek Hill can blow the top.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Tyrie Hill is a different type of receiver than Jefferson's
still a receiver, though.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Like I said, it's a coin flip. You could if
you want justin Jefferson, you want time, you want you
want Cheetah either or uh Floreses. On defense, win blitz
win percentage rate number one in the league the last
twenty four months. They get to the quarterback in Minnesota
and they've been doing a damn good job. He may
not be a good head coach and he'll get an
opportunity later in his career, but the one thing he
can do is coordinated damn defense. Last year, that defense

(58:30):
kept him in a lot of football games. Last year,
they just didn't have the offensive pieces. And I think
you plug in a rookie quarterback like JJ McCarthy, who's
been shown do you get it to your tight end,
you hand the ball, you throw it in the flats,
and you have all these weapons that you've never seen
before to be able to get the ball to his
best receiver. Michigan was Roman Wilson. It's the best guy
he had to throw the ball to.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
I got Justin Jefferson, I got kJ Osborne, I got
Jordan Addison, I got TJ. Hockinson. And you're giving me
a running back that's probably got a big chip on
the shoulder. This feels like a Ladanian Thomlinson year his
first with the Jets once saf So what's the Chargers like?
You're a little old. He still had almost ran four
thousand that year, and that's all they need out of
Aaron Jones about eight hundred nine hundred yards because you
got other running backs and other backs that can do

(59:10):
some different things. I still think the lines are the
class of this division. But I think the Bears are
severely overrated. They still have a ricky quarterback. I have
my question the way.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Did you see that Eberflush is the favorite to be.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
The coach of the how? I'm with you, how, But
I think Caleb I break down quarterback man. There's a
lot of holes in his game. He makes the Mahomes comparisons,
creates this narrative that that's what we look for, but
basic quarterback fundamentals. His feet are normally all over the
place and he holds the ball. I don't know if

(59:44):
that's hero ball just to make a play, but a
lot of times he holds the ball misses a lot
of open guys. I think the Bears still have some
issues there, and I like the Packers. I think this
division could possibly get three teams in because I don't
feel so strong about the other NFC divisions, especially the
NC only get one team in. You can win that
division at eight and nine. You can win that division

(01:00:04):
this year at eight or nine or nine and eight.
They only get one team in the NFC East, I
think the Eagles. They don't have a repeat. They don't
have a repeat champion in that division for at twenty
something years, so it won't be the Cowboys winning it
this year. The Cowboys just feel like the team that
can just fall off the map. The Giants are bad,
the Commanders are bad. That division could get one team in.

(01:00:25):
I think the West gets two teams in. I think
the NFC South North, excuse me, can get three teams in.
The Vikings I think can get the ten or eleven
wins to get to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I like your raising on that. I'm not against the Vikings.
I think that they can get it done again. They
have some weapons there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Plenty of them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I'm gonna get started on my prediction because mine is
so out of left field, but I'm gonna explain why
what we call addition through subtraction. Uh oh, So you
remember a couple of years ago the Seattle Seahawks have
a farewell to Russell Wilson and a lot of people
we're predicting, including yours truly, that the Seahawks were definitely

(01:01:04):
trying to basically gut the team to get the number
one pick in the draft.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Oh wow, So you get Drew Locke, who.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Everyone knows sucks, and then they signed Geno Smith, who
at that time I didn't even know Geno Smith was
still in the league, to be honest here wow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
By the way, quick side note on Geno Smith. This
is a true story. So I'm in New Orleans covering
the Super Bowl the year that Geno Smith is coming
out in the draft. Pat O'Brian and I are out
there and they tell us that Geno Smith is around.
We could do an interview, but Pat was doing another interview,
so I said, don't worry, I'll do a one on one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I was going to tape this with Geno Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Right, And if you remember Geno Smith last year at
West Virginia, he got a lot of hype early in
the year, absolutely right. You know, basically he was throwing
bubble screens to Austin what's his name over there and
Tavon Austin, So he was throwing the little bubble screens
and then Tavon Austin would run seventy yards for a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
So I'm sitting down with Geno Smith and my first question.
We're taping. This is not a live we're taping this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I said, so, Gina, where do you expect to hear
your name in the draft? And he just gives me
this look and I'm like, oh, so you have an idea.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
And he looks at me straight faced and he goes,
are you like the only one that doesn't know that
I'm the first pick in the draft? Oh? Wow, are
you serious?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Oh no?

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
He was straight face, and I'm like, like it was commonplace,
like like he was Caleb Williams, He's Andrew like he's
going to be there. He like, you, are you the
only person that doesn't know already that I'm the first
pick in the draft. So then I looked at him
like I didn't know if he was half in jest,
but he was straight face, and I'm like, so you've
been told that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
And he goes he looks at me like are you
insulting me? How dare you? How dare you?

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Dare you? Heartness? And so I'm the hell you think
you are?

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
This is basically so I had to play along with it,
like I'm like, so, Gino, okay, so your people have
told you you're going to be the first pick.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
In the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
So we're talking about it like he's going to be
the first pick in the draft. Yeah, so obviously he wasn't.
He was the guy in the back room that got
to sit there the entire.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Day last in the first round, right our second round.
He was second round. If I'm not e J. What
was who was the quarterback out of Florida state? That
j Manuel out of Southern Virginia baby state.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, he was the number. He was the top quarterback
taken on that draft. By the way, all right, I
want to continue on because Gino Smith plays a big
part in the team.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I'm picking to be by far the biggest shaker this
year in the NFL. But First, let's find out what
is trendy. Moncey is here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I am here, Monty. Who you got is your surprise? NFL?
Is it the Chargers?

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
I mean, I understand why Steve says that's not a
surprise type of thing, but that is who I have
as like making a big jump.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Well again at jim Meani getting into the playoffs like
the Rams did a year ago or the Texans did
a year ago.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Team, not to win a super Bowl, but just to
get into the place.

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
Yeah, I think it may be even more than just
making the playoffs. Maybe just because I'm literally wearing my
Charger shirt today.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
I saw that you bring me to the Monster Burrito. Yeah, yeah,
I saw that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:18):
I know it's one of my favorite Charger shirts because
it doesn't look like a Charger shirt.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
You got to pay attention. You gotta know what you're
looking for.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:25):
So maybe I'm just being hopeful since all of my
other teams suck, you.

Speaker 9 (01:04:28):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Like your dog, I think she's a guy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
She's a die hard Clippers and I'm telling getting rid
of that cancer on the team, George is a plus for.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
The It is a plus. I don't miss him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
He called you you you angered Martin and I last
when we felt him for convenient rich and you saw
you taught you saw what I said? Yeah, no, I
thought it was uncalled for the podcast just things.

Speaker 8 (01:04:53):
It was uncalled for it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
Just move on, bro, and it is co host like,
I don't know if you saw the tweets. His host
was like clippers anyway, and then he took it down.
It's like that's it, go away, go away.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
He was insulted by that initial sixty million dollar a year.

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
Good luck Philly. Bye, all right, that's probably what the
Oriole said to the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Bye.

Speaker 8 (01:05:16):
The Yankees were up, and then the Ools loaded the bases.
In the ninth inning, Cedric Mullins with the two RBI
double walked it off Alex Verdugo and left field was
so shallow it was totally a catchable ball. Tries to
run back falls. It's quite funny. And the Orioles beat
the Yankee sixty five.

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
It was funny. It was funny.

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
Gunner Henderson did have a two run shot getting ready
for that home run derby right now though it's all
a's against the Phillies, that's right, that's not a typo.
It's ten to three bottom of the seventh inning. In
that one, the Red Sox holding on to a slight
lead over the Royals four three.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
Top of the seventh inning.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
Rays blanking the Guardians two zero. Bottom of the seventh,
The Rockies and Mets were tied not anymore. Call Dolrado
on top seven to three. Top of the seventh. The
Tigers have added another run, but the Dodgers are on
top three to two. They're about to start the seventh inning.
Ellie de la Cruz with the two run shot ties
the game for the.

Speaker 7 (01:06:10):
Reds against the Marlins two two, bottom of the seventh.
The Pirates are now beating the White Sox four to two.
Top of the fifth inning.

Speaker 8 (01:06:17):
The Rangers still on top of the Astros two to one.
Top of the sixth All Brewers so far against the
National seven two. They're about to start the fifth inning.
Cubs are now on top of the Cardinals four to two,
top of the sixth inning.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
In the WNBA, Asia Wilson has.

Speaker 8 (01:06:31):
Six points and the Mystics are beating the Aces thirty
three to twenty two with about seven minutes to go
in the first half. The Aces are fifteen and seven
the mystics, just to give you an idea, six and seventeen.
Asia Wilson just six points so far in the game.
Let's check in on Euro twenty twenty four, the final
that I'm sure my parents are watching. My mom hates Spain.

(01:06:51):
She's going for Igland. After thirty three minutes, this match
is scoreless. You can catch all the action on Fox TV,
and then later today it's the Coopa America Fine, also
on Fox TV between Columbia and Argentina that kicks off
at eight Eastern time.

Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
And in NFL news, unfortunate news that former Ravens receiver Super.

Speaker 8 (01:07:10):
Bowl champion Jacoby Jones passed away, apparently overnight in his sleep,
at the age of forty.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
No cause of death has been announced.

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
Carlos alcaaz one Wimbledon, defeating Novak Djokovic for the second
street year, this time in straight sets.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Back to you guys, all right, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Fine, see we'll check in with you a little bit
later on once again, Hartman Husky here Fox Sports Sunday.
We're talking about teams that are going to come out
of nowhere to make it to the playoffs in twenty
twenty four. Vja has already put his hat in the
ring with the Minnesota Vikings. Chris is going to have
an entry. Maybe Bo's got one as well coming up here,

(01:07:48):
but I'm going to give you mine. So I was
talking about the Seahawks when they big farewell to Russell Wilson,
they ended up putting Gino Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Gino Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
In fact, it was funny because you know, Smith was
comeback Player of the Year and I remember thinking, come
back from what he never was anything. He got paid too,
I mean, and he got paid and now they're relevant.
You know why because they have a good coach. His
name is Pete Carroll. Give you another team that appears
to be well rudderless right now in terms of quarterback
after getting rid of Russell Wilson, and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
That would be the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I think the same fate that happened to the Seahawks
after they got rid of Russell Wilson and happened upon
Gino Smith is gonna happen this year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
With the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
What Zach Wilson, Jared Stidham, No, how about the rookie
bow Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeh, Bo Nicks is not a normal rookie in the NFL.
He played five full years as a starting well, he's
a full twenty four I mean twenty five in January.
He played five years, three years in the SEC two
obviously at Oregon, and I loved everything I saw from him.
At Oregon. He couldn't beat Washington. Michael Pennix had his number,

(01:08:59):
no question about that. But now Sean Payton has a
quarterback that he wants. Yeah, he has a quarterback that
he will take in, much as he took in Drew Brees.
I know Brees have been with the Chargers, but he
reinvented Drew Brees to fit his system. He could not
do it out with Russell Wilson. He will do that

(01:09:21):
with bow Knicks. That defense that was so bad, like
when they put a gave up seventy, We're thinking this
is this is not just bad, this is his start.
But they turned that defense around and by the end
of the year the Broncos actually statistically were one of
the best defenses in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
The schedule help that too. We have to make sure
we did the schedule help that. They played some really
bad teams in like a five week span.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
But much as I'm a believer in Pete Carroll and
the idea of that Pete carrolly you know who makes
who you know quarterback making the coach I believe and
the odds are now the bow Knicks as a rookie, again,
not a normal rookie, because he had five full seasons
as a starter at the collegiate level at Auburn and Oregon.
He's gonna be a starting quarterback. And obviously we saw

(01:10:03):
what happened a year ago in Houston with CJ.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Stroud.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
This is a veteran coach, Sean Payton, that understands the
quarterback position as well as anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
The Denver Broncos, mark my word. This is why the
Chargers are not gonna be the team you think the
arey there is. They're not gonna be that team. The
Raiders are not gonna be that team. If there's gonna
be a team that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Trail the Chiefs and get in as a wild card,
it's gonna be the Denver Broncos. Now Denver Broncos will
make the playoffs in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
No, that's not happen. I love your Seattle pick though,
because I was high on Seattle last year. The only
thing about this division this year in the NFC West,
I think this division is better than most people want
to give it credit for. The Niners are still powerful,
although I don't think they get back to the super Bowl.
Only two teams have gotten back to the super Bowl
after losing it the following year in the last thirty years.
That's the Buffalo Bills and the New England Patriots. So

(01:10:59):
that's nothing that happens. They got the talent to do it,
but I'm gonna go with the thirty year history on that.
So there's gonna be a new NFC representative. I like
the Rams. I really like the Rams. You talk about
a guy that can coach. Let's let's go ahead and
get Sean McVay his flowers. Right now, he's got a
Super Bowl ring and he's coaching another super Bowl. And
they know they know how to draft guys, man, and
they make mistakes and they get guys like Todd Gurley

(01:11:20):
is an afterthought now, right, They got a running back
and they got a running game. There, you got a quarterback,
Matthew Stafford. Everybody blamed everything on him in Detroit, Okay,
no problem, get rid of him, you know, that this
was the first.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Time he ever actually legitimately made the Pro Bowl. The
only other Pro Bowl hit ever.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
He was an alternation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
This was the first time in his career that he
actually was voted legitimately into the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
And the year they had the Super Bowl hangover. I
think they needed that year because they pushed all their
chips And people don't understand. Man, When you push all
your chips in on the season and you and you
and you get it done, it takes it takes a
like you almost you get a chance to go. Remember
Steve Young having a teammate pulled the monkey off his
on the sideline for the NFL films care But you
could tell that really was I got one. I don't

(01:12:06):
need another one. I always say the Super Bowl ring
is the one time you only need one. You only
need one Stanley Cup once exactly. But in the NBA
you gotta win five and six. Right in the Major
League Baseball, you got to win four and five World
CERI no man, Stanley Cups, Super Bowl. All you need
is won they ring loud. I like Seattle on this
division that Denver pick for you. I agree with you
on bo Knicks. I think Bow Knicks is gonna be

(01:12:27):
a lot better because he's a more mature guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
He has a coach and Sean Kayden.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, this this idea that young and running and accurate.
I mean, I don't there's nothing I don't like about
bo Nicks. They still have a lot of other holes
on this team. Though I think there's defenses average.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
They have a lot of holes here on offense. I'm
interested to see. But charges. The Chargers have Chargers in
the AFC, so you got them in the AFC, So
you got.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Them winning second in the AFC West, Chargers will be third,
Raiders will be fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
So Jags, so we know you got the Jagson n
AFC South. You got to You got to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Hi Trevor Lawrence the jury's out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
By the way, think about that, five quarterbacks taking the
first fifteen picks of that draft three years ago, and
four of them are no longer with their team.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Okay, so but he's the only survivor. But just real fast,
if the Broncos are making the playoffs, so I got Casey, Cincinnati,
Baltimore wild card teams in Miami. Those teams are going
to the playoffs. Who's didn't for knocking out because I
know I'm missing somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Right, I think Miami's in trouble. Oh lord, did you
see them fade away last year? At the end of
the year, you walk, you saw the trajectory of the
Miami Dolphins last year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
You got to tell the complete stories. Why did they fail?
Why did they fade? Tell the whole story? Doesn't matter
what the story is. No, no, that does matter. You
had a home game, faded, Wattle, Wadle out, Tyreek out,
Louise Phillips, lose Chubb a quarterback, Louise Van Gating, Stop it,

(01:13:57):
Louise van Giegle. I'm naming guys that matter. Okay, I'm
not naming Johnny trum Lately's off the sideline, so they
lo there. We were signing people off the street. The rush,
Patrick Maholmes going into that game of a home game
to win the division. You chook, we blued the Tennessee game.
You're right, we blew a Tennessee game. The different game
didn't matter because I mean, I mean it's common. The

(01:14:17):
Buffalo game didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
The trajectory reminds me of the Chargers two years ago
and their trajectory when they lost that playoff game to
Jacksonville had a last year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Go eleven and six last year. So were you got
Miami this year? Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
On the other side, we'll get Chris bo.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Do you have you have that team?

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
He's got one as well. Which teams come out of nowhere?

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Watch it? I'm telling you, Mike Broncos genius.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Right, this is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin VJ. Husky,
Harbin and Husky Fox Sports Sunday. We're alive from the
tyrack dot Com studios. All right, I want to get
right to it. All right, Chris, what you got see Bo?
You've heard our picks. So VJ is saying the Minnesota Vikings. Yes,

(01:15:00):
the fact that they lose their quarterback, no problem. They
will bounce back in a big way and they will
be a playoff team. I'm even going a step further
that with a rookie quarterback, the Denver Broncos are going
to shock the world and be a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
This real quick. Minnesota is going to have a rookie too.
JJ McCarthy's going to be the starter. It's Sam Donald.
If Sam Donald starts, they're they're shooting himselves in the stand. Anyway.
I promised. I promised, Chris, especially that you would not
bring up JJ McCarthy. You know he thinks that he
is so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
I'm with you. I think McCarthy's actually okay. But you know,
all right, so Chris, let's start with you give us
the team that nobody is talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
To be a playoff team in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
First off honorable mention. I think the Cardinals will do better,
but they are not my pick. I do like kind
of how they look near the end of that season.
Adding Marvin Harrison Junior should not be understated, especially making
Kyler Murray improve. But I think sometimes all you need
is a little seasoning. Last year, you had a rookie
head coach, a first time head coach, you had a

(01:16:03):
rookie quarterback. You had a team coming off some tremendously
bad times that they've had, and they showed flash and
promise ultimately derailed by injuries. And I'm talking about and
it pains me. I think, Steve, you know my history
with this team and how certain writers for this team
have tried to get me fired. Oh, but it is
the Indianapolis Colts. I do like the Colts coming into

(01:16:26):
this year for several reasons. I do what we saw
of Anthony Richardson has me extremely hopeful for that team.
I loved his talent through college. I loved what he
has looked so far in the NFL up until he
was hurt. They've been adding trying to add talents around
him Shane Steike and again first time as a head coach.
But I like what he's brought to the Colts. As
far as an offense. You look at that Division two

(01:16:47):
eminently winnable. How you feel about the Jaguars, We've all
been mixed on how we feel about the Jaguars here.
I think we can disregard the Tennessee Titans. So it
just comes back to the question of do you think
the Houston Texans can repeat as a threat, and that
is tough to do what they did last year. I
do like what they have done, but I feel like

(01:17:08):
always we say this every year, there's always new blood
in every division every year, and I think following with that,
following talents of a quarterback that should be healed up
and improved, following a coach getting his systems in for
a second year, and the other talent that's on that team.
I do like the Indianapolis Colts to come out of
because I don't think anyone's talking about the Colts. It's
the AFC South first. Well, the overrun on the Colts

(01:17:29):
is about it, eight and a half wins. I like
the Colts, I don't know if they're that far of
a reach, especially in that division.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
I want to point out too, so this bounces for
them and for the Texas for everybody that loves the Texans.
Let's not act like the Colts have that game in hand.
The last game of the year, the coach decides to
call a throwout to the flat to a fallback who
you have only targeted one time previously all year long.

(01:17:57):
It's a perfect throw. He flied out, drops it all
fourth and one, and that's how Houston wins that division.
So I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at
that pig.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
And again, that's that's way past when Anthony Richardson shut
down for the shutdown in week richard now was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
He just has to stay healthy and that's the biggest
crass going to be the problem. That's gonna be the problem.
But they also got Uncle Flacco as their backup right now,
who was shown Hey, I may not be ay Gee seventeen,
but I'll give you eight and nine if a guy
goes down.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
That was a miracle run for Flak. Come on now, no,
I mean Flack. And then he woke up in that
playoff game.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Well, no, he woke up in a play Like I said,
it's not longevity. He's not gonna be a whole season.
But if Flacco, if you need Flacco to win your
four or five games, I've seen him do it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
If they're if they're going to be a playoff team,
it's going to be Richardson all the way, all the way,
all right, bo what he got for us?

Speaker 9 (01:18:49):
Two teams that I think could make the playoffs but
aren't really like out of the blue. I think the
Browns could do it if Deshaun Watson doesn't oh go
to the place again. I think the Bears can make
the playoffs next year.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
It's slow down here, okay now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Ibra Flus is the favorite, that yeah, favorite, to be
coach of the Year, which obviously is only gonna happen
if they make.

Speaker 9 (01:19:06):
The play jillly Gabriel is the betting favorite to win
the Heisman right now, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Either.

Speaker 9 (01:19:10):
The team that's gonna maybe be out of the blue
and make the playoffs next year is the Carolina Panthers. Wow,
explain that one to the NFC. South sucks right, like
nobody in the blows anybody away.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:19:21):
They have a new head coach and Dave Canalis who
fixed Baker Mayfield last year.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:19:25):
Bryce Young was a first overall pick for a reason.
I don't think you can call a guy a bust
after one year.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
I agree with that.

Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
I like I like Xavier leget their first round pick
out of South Caroline. He's a good wide receiver. I
like Jonathan Brooks.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Okay, that that is. Now, that's a team you're picking
that team?

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
That is?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
If that happens, I am gonna give you. Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:19:43):
I think there's a world where that happens. It's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
No, I don't. I don't hate it at all. I'm
with you, ol B. Why you know? B? Why is
my guy? I've been watching He's a sophomore at Cathedral
before he transferred to Modern Day. So I'm all with
you on B. Why the legate pick? I'm just it's
it's you know, receivers, we get these big, these big
classic receivers that come in every year, there's always one
that falls off. Remember Terras Marshall from U LSU. That

(01:20:06):
was Witt Chase, that was wit Justin Jefferson. He's he's
almost been just kind of jet set it off and
the guy may be out of the league in two years. Side.
I think I think leg It could be that guy.
This at this class of receivers at two or three
years down the line, we look, we go. God man,
they missed on another one because they went for Terras
Marshall and that didn't work out either. So you do

(01:20:27):
believe in Bryce here? Look at it? Yes, I'm believing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Being in the LA we watched him develop.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I hope.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
I'm rooting for him to have a big bounce back year.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
But that is one team. I don't see how they
make them playoffs. They called him both. All right, Well,
continue I hit.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
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(01:21:14):
times defer to my partner if they have a real passion.
I had no idea walking into the studio today knowing
VJ as long as I have, and he's a man
of passion that you would spark him bo as our
producer by literally saying the words Carolina Panthers. Now, I
don't know too many people right now on this date

(01:21:37):
that are inspired, even Carolina Panther fans by actually uttering
the words Carolina Panthers. But all of a sudden, DJ's
like jumping out of his seat. Yes, I'm telling one
of my endless stories that I've told a million times,
you know, And everyone just heard nods their heads saying, yeah,
that's an interesting story. Not really, But we'll engage with

(01:21:58):
you because I know you love to talk about your
life and it's unbelievable and yeah, we get it. So
I always appreciate that everyone indulges me with that kind
of stuff because sometimes it's got to let out the
stories and people understand that, even if they really have
no interest in them. But anyway, in the midst of
me telling one of my riveting stories from my colorful past,

(01:22:19):
Veg looks at me, goes, hey, can we get back
to that Carolina Panthers sing Yeah. I'm like, seriously, Carolina Panthers.
Ye okay, all right, so bo I don't know how
serious he was, but we asked, give us a team
that nobody is picking.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
To bake the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Playoffs in twenty four, twenty twenty four, and no one
is picking the Carolina Panthers. When you've had the number
one pick in the draft two years in a row,
no one is picking you, and when you're coming off
the kind of season they had.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
They were bad in every respect. They had no offense,
they have no defense, they have nothing owner throwing drinks
on people, all right. I get to you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
When they talk about Bryce Young, I was one of
those that said, look, they were one hundred percent sold
on Bryce Young. I was not one hundred percent sold
on Frank Reich. I like Frank Reich as a man.
I got to know when he was an assistant coach
down with the San Diego Chargers as they were then known,
And but I, you know, I just didn't know what

(01:23:18):
we're going to see with him in terms of developing
on quarterback. I think that was a bad hire with
a young quarterback like Bryce Young. So it's a do
over for Bryce Young.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
And maybe it could be a dueover like it was
for Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Remember that first disastrous year with Urban Meyer, you know,
and all of a sudden you bring in Peterson. It
was a super Bowl winning coach, and all of a sudden,
we saw much different Trevor Lawrence year two from year one.
So maybe we'll see that as far as Bryce Young.
But there's got to be more to it than that.
That is sparking your interest and your enthusiasm for the
Carolina Panthers to have an incredible turnaround in twenty twenty four, explained.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Well, Number one, BOE's one of my favorite people to
talk sports with here. He knows that. No, oh, we
could just we could just hey, how are you doing,
how'd your wife? How's your dor? So not that we
get right into it and he's thought provoking. I like
guyaid thought provoking. But the reason why I like this,
this is why you have to stop these narratives. I'm
with you, Christ when we're talking you guys talk about
a quarterback being a bus right, because this is also

(01:24:17):
returning the fourth ranked defense in the league last year
that allowed under three hundred yards a game. So there's
that no one talks about that. You talk about Brooks.
I'm with you on that, But then you also add
him with Rashad Penny, who's going into his eighth year
but has he's a veteran, right, you need a locker
room guy. You need a guy to teach these young
guys how to stretch, how to walk, how to talk,
how to sleep, how to be a professional National Football

(01:24:39):
League player. It's a business. This is your job now,
this is what you do. The receiver position. You still
have me and Go and Adam Thielen, Terrace, Marshall and Leget.
We got to just see what they're gonna be there.
But you mentioned the coach that was the offensive coordinated
from the Bucks that came over and we saw what
he did to Baker, and let's not act like that.

(01:25:00):
We all love Baker. People been crapping on Baker Mayfield
for the last four or five years. He turned this
guy around and got him one hundred million dollar check
right now is what he's gonna make there now. I
don't know what they'll do when this guy leaves. I'm
a big proponent that when your coordinator leaves is going
to affect one side of the ball that he was
coordinating on. We see time and Tom again. But then
I go to the schedule New Orleans Chargers, Raiders, Cincy, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, Denver.

(01:25:27):
Hey what I Hey, that's why I herding football to me.
If Bryce takes that step, which we know he can.
Like I said, I've seen the kid since he was
fifteen years old. I called back to back state championships
for this kid to see. I have Southern Sectional against Bosco.
I've seen him with my own eyes at Alabama. Like
you said, he was the number one pick for a reason.

(01:25:50):
And I think that this defense, I like where you're
I like where you're at with this man. This defense,
like I said, Ring, they give up less than two
hundred yards passing again, so you can't move the ball
against him. You can't run against him. And if you
could get the offense to just how many times they
lose last year nineteen sixteen or you know, twenty to
cent scoring offense. They had zero offense last year. And

(01:26:14):
the line last point was horrific. That kid was running
for his life. That backfoot hits. He's already got to
pull the ball down and get out of the way.
Yah he's small. Yeah, you're small. If you're gonna get
killed like that, if you're not gonna protect the kid, Yeah,
he's gonna get killed. And you can say, oh, he's small,
also to a quick sidebar. CJ. Stroud was bigger. He

(01:26:36):
also missed two games for concussion. So kill me with
the small crap. Okay, it's candle line, protect the front bo.
You know me? I make out landish you know picks
because I don't like low hanging fruit. I love this, dude,
I really do. You might be onto something. This division
is gonna be bad. We don't know what's up in
Atlanta right If Kurt's not ready, then you're going to

(01:26:59):
a rookie quarterback. You're going You're going with You're going
with the kid out of Washington as a rooky quarterback
do you have the Saints. No one likes Allen. They've
been crapping on Derek Carr's whole career. So don't try
to feed me until this team could be a hey man.
That's why I wanted to get back to this because,
as you guys were talking, I just want to pull
up some numbers and look them like, you know what
I forgot? This defense was pretty damn good last year.

(01:27:20):
They didn't get blown out a lot. They really were
competing with some teams. This visions crap by new offensive
minor head coach. I like it, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
By the way, you talk about a statistical anomaly, you
mentioned accurately that in terms of yards giving up, this
is the fourth best defense in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
They were twenty ninth in the league in scoring defense.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Yeah, so what does that tell you, Well, when your
offense is not moving ball, it's about field position.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
That means that teams were moving the ball on short fields.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yeah, so they weren't getting a lot of yards, but
they still were putting up a lot of points defensively.
This is I mean, they were thirty second in the
league in yards, dead last, thirty first in points next
to last.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
This is bad. Here's the thing about bright Young. Eight
defenses also wear down to Steve, Like, it's not just
short feels you by week nine when you know your
offense can't score. By week eight, Steve, these guys are
going out like, all right, guys, we got to try
to hold him under seventeen to have a shot today.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Yeah, the numbers could be deceiving. Here's the thing about
the the stature of Bryce Young. This is what always
gets to me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
When Doug Flutie was winding up his career with the
San Diego Chargers and he started a full season when
uh Drew Brees was a rookie, and I remember his
first time I really had got a chance to know
this guy, Doug Flutie. And again I'm I am five eleven,
all right, and I'm looking at this guy like, how

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tall are you really?

Speaker 6 (01:28:41):
Down?

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
In reality he is around five eight, And I asked
him just flat out, no matter what kind of arm
strength he has, and he had great arm strength, and
I said, how do you see anything? I mean, when
you got lineman in front of you, there's six five
and they're up, how do you actually see? And he goes,
here's what you have to understand, I've always been this hype.

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So from the time I was in high school through
college and the pros, my perspective on the field has
never changed. It's the same thing with Bryce Young. You say, well,
how can he see anything? Well, I got news for you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Do you think the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Offensive lineman and defensive lineman and the SEC were smaller
than they are in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
No, they're the same guys.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
So his perspective, even going back to his high school days,
has never changed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
But you got to protect him.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
You got to give him an opportunity as he got
at Alabama, to let it play develop.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
I mean, I will.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
When he shredded Georgia to win the Heisman Trophy is
what he did. He shredded george because I you know,
I have a Heisman. Did you guys know I have
a Heisman?

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
Vote?

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Anyway, So I remember it was very it was very
up in the air that year, you know, until that
game and then all of a sudden, obviously Bryce walked
away with the Heisman Trophy. So yeah, I especially in
that divisi, Yeah, especially in that wise legit man, this
kid like I would say that and they'll repeat their
two and fifteen no.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
No, And I've had a chance to meet his dad,
talk to his family. When you when you know people
come from just good when people just come from a
good cut man, it matters, It matters, and it means something.
And I went both, Like I said, I break this
down and I look at it. You can look at
the numbers, like I said, fourth ranked defense, last ranked offense.
That you gotta protect guys, you gotta put guys around.

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Football is such a great sport. We're just seeing in
the receiver. As you watch it, you'll you'll you'll see
San Francisco. You know what makes them so great? And
number one, you know how Purty can come in and
be successful. Well, it starts with an all world left
tackle and Trent Williams.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Okay, he has the best skill set players in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
He has the best. Think about it, he's got the
best running back in football. Yes, he has, uh what
the second best tight end in football because because Kelsey
would be one. Yeah, and I think for for anybody's money,
you would probably say kills number two, er three, he's
right there right, Okay, the best offensive of versatile weapon
and even ball and like go to the defensive side,

(01:31:08):
by the way, let's not leave. Ay you got it?
Oh yeah, who wants to buy away? Is his favorite receiver?
Do you think he'll be gone by the trade deadline
this year? I heard a very powerful name in this
business say that about three weeks ago, say he's gone
by the trade deadline. They're not gonna get it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Here's the problem teams like the forty nine ers have.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
This is what happened to the Rams. Remember the Rams
sold out? Yeah, they sold out to win a Super
Bowl chips in and they did it. But then you
gotta you gotta start paying people, and the cap does
not sweat them on to doing New England Patriots at
the end, they were able to get that last run
winning three super Bowls, four super Bowls in five years.

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And you can only kick the can down the road
so many times, and then eventually you got to pay.
And that's where the forty nine ers are facing. Not
everybody's gonna get paid. Somebody has to go.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
They like this Jinnin's kid, I feel like I feel
I feel like I you fifth fifty one of to
do is going to get done? Canny get done? Yes,
But is it going to get done if they feel
like this Jennings Kid and see power minds like offensive
whiz guys like Shanahan, Lafleur, McDaniel, that McVeigh, that Tree.

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They think, hey, we could plug guys.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Yeah you need dee Bo, Yeah you need you need
Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
I can't replace those guys, but I can replace what
I you does. He's a good he's a good receiver.
I was one of those, but I don't want to
pay him thirty million.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
I was one of those guys that when the Chiefs
decided not to pay Tyreek Hill, I said, they're done
because that was the beauty of trying to trying to
defend a team that's got Kelsey and h'll pick your poison. Yeah,
And I thought, you're not gonna replace tyreek Hill. There's
no replacement for Tyreek Hill. This is going to be
a come down. Obviously it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
You got Andy Reid though. That's that's he's the difference.
He's the You also have Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Tom Brady was the same way. Of course, you could
get rid of guys, bring guys in, and Brady would
find a way to make that guys start big Ben
that era.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Like you said, if you I'm a firm Stephen with Young,
I'm a firm believing this. If you have if you
have a quarterback like a guy, you gotta shot every
damn Sunday. If you don't have one, you have zero shot.
I don't care what weapons you got. I don't care
what kind of defense you got. If you don't have
a guide to quarterback position, you got no shot. You
got Brady, you got Mahomes, you got Peyton, you got

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big Bin over the last twenty years in his league.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Yeah, those are the teams that are gonna that are
gonna win the Super Bowl. I know people get upset,
you know, Joe Burrow fan, Josh Allen fan. Some of
these quarterbacks. There's one franchise quarterback right now in the NFL.
One his name is Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
If the idea is winning super bowls, there's only three
other active quarterbacks that have won a Super Bowl. Who
are the three quarterbacks active today in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, mahoone, don't tell me, don't tell me.
Russell in a rod No, no, no. Besides Mahomes, Oh,
Russell Wilson in a rod and one more. Don't tell me,
don't tell me, don't tell me active active active? Oh
is this flack count?

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
Flacco does not count because he's not currently a starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Oh Man, currently a starting court Russell Russell Wilson j
come on Rogers and Anon Rodgers, Russell Wilson active starting
quarterback quarter It's gonna be all right, I'm out. This
is wow, it was, it's it was very recently. Yeah,
my guy, my guy, my guy. Matt Maddie. I yes, yes, yeah,

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he won a Super Bowl. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Coming up on the other side, we're gonna get into
All Star Week in Major League Baseball or MLB Insider
John Paul Morosi, Well, join us. This is Fox Sports Sunday.
Harvin Husky Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from the
tire rac dot Com studios. It is All Star Game
week in Major League Baseball, and no one will break

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it down like this man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
He's the best of the best.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
We claim among his many many titles Fox Sports Radio,
MLB Insider, the Great John Paul Morosi, So JP, I
wanted to talk about Skeens starting this All Star Game
eleven starts into his major League baseball career.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
And I'm going to go back to nineteen seventy six.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
I was eighteen years old, was here, I graduated at
high school in the talk of baseball. Was a rookie
with the Detroit Tigers named Mark the Bird Fedric So
I had to.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Look it up to make sure I was right, and
I was right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
After two very brief relief appearances, they put him in
the rotation and he started exactly eleven games and was
named the starting pitcher for the American League All Star Team,
the exact same eleven starts of Paul Skeins that had.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
But here's the difference. So Skeen's is six and zero,
zero complete games. The Bird he was nine and two
with ten complete games, ten in his first eleven starts.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
Of course, he also completed thirty one of his first
forty starts and then had armed problems and that was
the end of Marked the Bird Fedrich.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
But I know what you talk about, like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
We've never seen anything like this before, and the fact
is we have is just that it happened so long ago.
Most people don't remember. I know you do because you're
a Michigan native, a Tigers fan. You know about Mark
the Bird Fedrich. But I just wanted to put it
out there that people say, well, you've never seen this.
Eleven starts the news major League grist starting an All
Star game actually did happen.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
His name was Mark the bird Fedrich back in nineteen
seventy six.

Speaker 6 (01:36:33):
Well that's a great point, Steve and VJ. Good afternoon
as well. It is interesting when you think about the
history of the game that was almost fifty years ago.
And you're right what I would say too, as we
discussed Fidrich's career, how it unfolded, the number of complete games. Now,
he wasn't throwing nearly as hard as schemes does, which

(01:36:55):
I think is part of it. And again the overall
conversation about health. There's no question that the demands of
the day. And think about this, some of the Tigers'
decisions back then were getting made based on can we
shorten up the bird's rest so that way he pitches

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at home as often as possibly could drive the gate
and get bigger and bigger attendance, greater television ratings. They
were lining them up to see there was that famous
gaming pitched against the Yankees on Monday Night Baseball and
ABC which the ratings so that were through the roof,
so that there are a lot of commercial reasons why

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Fidrich's schedule was set the way it was, and it
was certainly not to optimize his health. It was to
optimize the revenues of the industry, the Tigers, the networks,
et cetera. But where schemes gets interesting is exactly the
contrast that you're making. Fidrich didn't throw as hard, but

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was pitching more often, and he broke down Schemes throws
a lot harder. They're being more careful with his innings,
as we saw with the no hitter, And now the
question is will this work? The answer I have is
I have no idea, because no one does if we acknowledge.
If you look at the thirty baseball teams and you

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were to ask, hey, what team probably spends the most
money on having the smartest front office possible, with the
wisest research and development, all the state of the art
ability to analyze pitch your health, You'd probably say the
Los Angeles Dodgers. Well, that team right now has about
as much pitching on the injured list in terms of

(01:38:39):
dollars spent and the amount of money they're spending on
pitchers who are not pitching right now. It is a
staggering sum of money. And the conclusion to draw from
that is not that the Dodgers are clueless when it
comes to keeping pitchers healthy. It's that we are all
varying degrees of clueless. We're just hoping that we land

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on the right solution. Because, in no way, shape or form,
was anybody saying, well, by the All Star break glass
now and Yamamoto and Bobby Miller, by the way, is
going to be in the minor leagues, and Beeler is
going to be struggling on the injured list, and Kershaw
wouldn't have pitched the game for the Dodgers yet, and
that you've got guys like Cole Reagan's and Seth Lugo

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in the All Star Game and show to Imanaga in
the All Star Game. So we're all trying to figure
this out. And anybody that calls up the show or
any show in the country, it says, hey, I've got
to figure it out how to keep everybody healthy. I
have a great deal of issues with that statement.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
John porm Rosey VJ. Brend A Husky here, great to
be talking some good old baseball with you, my man,
and just really quick. On the Dodgers, I say all
the time in over the last three or four weeks
they make they're spending way too much money to have
the fifth best record in the majors right now, and
they don't even look like the best team in the NL.
I want to spin to the All Star Game coming
up though, thirty seven new player and my part Martin

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and I talk on the show all the time about
the rule changes and speeding the game up, and I
loved it. I balked at it before, but once I
started to watch, I said, you know what a two
and a half hours, two hours and twenty five minutes. Hey,
this is what I'm talking about. I like this, But
the All Star Games sell us on why this could
be a good thing currently or moving forward with so

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many new players, with the casual you talk about schemes.
I need him against I needed him to start because
I need him against Judge right in the first inning.
Give me the best guys that you're telling me is
the best this year against the best guys at least
for the first two or three innings. But with the
thirty seven new guys currently moving forwards. This is a
good thing. Doesn't matter is going to stay the same?

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Where do you kind of fall on this one? John?

Speaker 6 (01:40:47):
I love it. I actually think VJ. The game is
in a really good spot.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
I really do.

Speaker 6 (01:40:51):
And yes, as I mentioned a moment ago, injuries and
picture health, they're a topic now and they have been
for years. But I think in terms of the product
that we see at the ballpark, I know, I'm really
fortunate in my job. I get a chance to see
games all around the country on a weekly basis and
to experience different fan bases. And I've got to say,
the number of really good baseball games and we've been

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broadcasting this season on MLB Network, I think it's the
best group of games we've ever had, and it's because
the games have pace and athleticism to them. We're seeing
new stars emerging. Gunner Henderson what a star, and I
hope that the casual baseball fan gets a chance to
watch Gunner play on Tuesday. Bobby Witt Junior, same story.

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I think that you see as well some of the
next generation of players. I love Jaren Duran with the
Boston Red Sox. He's a first time All Star. Riley
Green first time All Star, you're gonna chesse future Hall
of famers like Savado. Perez is still in the game
even as an ascended young catcher, and Atley Rutchman is
now stepping to the forefront. And one of my favorite
players in the game, Stephen Kwan batting three point fifty.

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He just does work. He is our modern version. He's
at least having the same philosophy as the great Tony
gwyn He's the modern day heir to what Tony Gwinn
was able to do. I'm not say he's gonna have
the same career as Gwinn, but it's that same philosophy.
When you get a chance to watch what he's doing,
it is a sight to behold. So I think we

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are blessed right now with a tremendous amount of young
talent in the game. Yes, a lot of it's on
the mound, but I just think this generation of position players,
who by the way, have been taught dj to be
more athletic because it's a more athletic game. Now, there's
less standing around, there's more base running. All these elements
I think have put players like Steven Kwan more into
the conversation of being people that we really get to

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enjoy watching work on their craft.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
All Right, I want you on the record as we
get into the All Star break, tell us right now, JP,
which team has been the biggest surprise in a positive
sense for you and the biggest surprise in a negative
sense for you going into the All Star break.

Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
Well, it's steeling a little bit like twenty fourteen and
twenty fifteen all over again because the Kansas City Royals
have put themselves right back into the playoff conversation. I
know they've been a little bit slow entering the break,
but with this young talent. I mentioned Bobbywood, Junior, Cole Reagan,
Seth Lugo. They made a trade over the weekend for
Hunter Harvey of the Washington Nationals. They're a really good team.

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They're much better than I thought they were going to be.
I actually think the Boston Red Sox are better than
I expected. Again, I mentioned the first time All Star
Jaren Duran Saydan Rafaela to remember that name. He's now
playing a lot of shortstop for them, really athletic player.
So I think those are the teams that stand out
to me as being the biggest surprise in the positive way.
On the negative direction, I gotta say I did not

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expect the Chicago Cubs to be the last in the
National League Central right now, nor did I expect the
Toronto Blue Jays to be last in the American League East.
And I actually thought up to Detroit Tigers. They've played
a little bit better entering the break, but they're better
than the fourth place team, and that, to me, has
been one team that I've been a little bit frustrated
with during the course of this season. So that's my

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perspectives right now in terms of teams that are up
teams that are down. I think where I land on
and Stephen vj is we're gonna have a very interesting
trade deadline with a lot of movement all over the place.
So I can't wait to see what happens. On the
evening of July the.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Thirtieth, Speaking of those Tigers, just tied it up three
to three in the bottom of the ninth runners on
first and a second against us against those Dodgers, right
against those Dodgers, against those going on. I don't a baby,
I don't know. We bring you on and magic happens,
I don't know. You tell me, you know what out
there in detail. I'm out here in La La Land.
Man a team I want to throw out there that
I really really liked. But I'm kind of getting little

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worried about the New York Yankees.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
And that's because and they just threw the ball away
game over, Tigers win.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Bottom of the night, Betty Ramirez, what.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
As Mario Weis said, is per feed too long? Detroit
guys are clapping behind the glass. That was the worst ever. Yeah,
a punting situation.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
Runners up first and second, but right back to the
pitcher Ramiras throws throws it aways. Basically they're trying to
get the runner third base run scores. Tigers win, a
walk up again.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Yeah, look at the luck. You're breaking it if you're
in our studio right now. Just two split glasses. We
got Monti, who was a Dodger fan on the left,
shaking her head, and we got two Detroit guys in here.
High five.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
By the way, that's that's a one in five road
trip for the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
I mean, they're spinning out of control with all these
boys acting like he's looking at his phone, he's all
with just he's at this but really really quick last
one from me, John Paul. The Yankees, you know, they
got the bats and and uh, the pitching just seems
to be falling apart right now. You mentioned Gunderson with
the Orioles. I love the kid, but there's only one
game separating them. Whoever wins this division. You got that

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team going at least to the Alcus to get to
the World Series. Are the Yankees fu gayzy? Are they?
Are they falling apart? With the get to stay back together?

Speaker 6 (01:46:01):
You know, the Yankees have some work to do VJ.
They have got to make some moves. I don't like
their lineup depth right now. I don't like their bullpen
depth leading up to Clay Holmes. I think he's had
to pitch a ton in the first half. Their rotation
has let me down a little bit. I am not
sold on them yet as being a postseason juggernaut, because

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here's the issue. When you're facing a team with Judge
and Soto, you might say, and it's hard to pitch
around both of them, but you might basically say, Okay,
we're gonna pick one and just say, Okay, Soto's not
gonna beat us tonight, We're just gonna anytime he's up,
We're gonna walk them. We're gonna not get him inting
to hit. And maybe we feel like we can we
can attack Judge here and then maybe vice versa. But

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after the two of them, once they're done batting, who
are you afraid of? The in the second half of
the Yankee lineup? And I think that's where it's I
look at the Baltimore lineup one through nine as being
a tougher out right now, and I would even say
that a team like Cleveland has got the better one
through nine right now, and the New York Yankees do,

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so I am not at all sold on them. I
think if they run up against a team like Seattle,
they're flawed offensively. The Mariners are, at least for now
until they make some upgrades, but their fishing is really good.
And I just think that when you start facing the
best of the best on the mound in October and
you have a game plan where basically, at three o'clock
you're saying, listen, our season's on the line. We are

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not going to let ninety nine beat us. He's not
going to see a strike and SODA's gonna have to
do it tonight. Whatever it might be you need more
than two players two players in your line up to
do that. So I'm I am concerned about the Yankees
as a playoff team. I think as much as we
talk about how many great teams or how the big
market teams have spent a ton of money, they're not better.

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They are objectively in this moment, not a better postseason
team than the Cleveland Guardians now in the National League.
I will say this, the Phillies are better right now
than everybody else in the ENDLT just better. And I've
had a chance to watch them a bunch of this season.
What a delightful team to watch it. I think we're
gonna hear a lot from the Philadelphia Phillies in the
month of October.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Well, the Dodgers completed a one to five road trip
to go into the break, so that is not voting
well for the Dodgers, who have blested their entire starting
rotation and back to back ninth inning losses to the
Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
Here I am like a Dodger guy, and I'm surrounded
by Tiger fans who would have thought JP.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Enjoy your All Star week. Will definitely get your update
next week. Thanks for joining us as always.

Speaker 6 (01:48:32):
You got it all the best.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
Thank you so much, Rod bless you all.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
Star games, John Palmerrosi our Fox Sports Radio MLB Inside,
Let's find out what is trending right now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
And Monci is in a state of shock as I am.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
As the Dodgers did it again, leading going into the
bottom of the ninth inning and literally this this time
throwing the game away.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:48:53):
Actually I did not see this live because I was
watching England tie the game against Spain in the twenty
twenty four Euro Final. It happened at the exact same time,
so bo is like texting and delling at me on
the other side. I'm watching soccer. Then I turned it
on and I saw the bad throw. I saw it
all happen, but I didn't see it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:11):
Lut.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
And that was a bad throw is like saying the
Titanic swung a leak. I mean that thing was closer
to the dugout than it was.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
The third band mate. Why make that throw though? Why?

Speaker 7 (01:49:21):
It was a desperation move.

Speaker 8 (01:49:23):
He wasn't expecting the ball to come to him and
made a desperation throw, you know what I mean? Like
I think that it caught him off guard, not that
I'm saying, it's okay, but your a professional goal.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Closer to the work on that in spring training. No,
they work on that in spring train.

Speaker 7 (01:49:41):
You would stop it, you would think.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:49:43):
So for the second straight day, the Tigers walk it
off against the Dodgers.

Speaker 7 (01:49:47):
I don't like saying that four to three was the
final score.

Speaker 8 (01:49:51):
The Marlins topped the Reds three to the Red Sox
edge the Royals five to four. The Rays blanked the
Guardians to zero. The Orioles came back to beat the
Yankee six. I have Baltimore heads into the All Star
Break in first place in the Al East. And then
the A's, guys, the a let me just play a
little bit. I just want We're gonna start with this one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
This is A's.

Speaker 7 (01:50:10):
This is the A's today.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
What too, bitch, high fly ball, deep brighton center. It's
a three homer day for Lawrence Butler.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
Three homer day.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Fought the law and the low one. Love that right, Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Then also A's there's gilof he swings and he slams
one a deep left center field on its way and
it is a grand slam.

Speaker 8 (01:50:34):
You want to know why he sounds so sad because
he's bored because the A's crushed the Phillies eighteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
We were talking about the Phillies on the runaway at home.

Speaker 8 (01:50:43):
LuSE to the A's eighteen to three, and then with
and he hits a grand slam.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Yeah, can we wrap this up?

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
That's like what he's thinking, all Star breaks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's get all Star breaks eighteen to three.

Speaker 8 (01:50:55):
The Rockies are currently beating the Mets eight five, bottom
of the ninth inning in York. But the Mets have
the bait the man on first and second, they are
down to their final out. The Pirates have extended their
lead over the White Sox nine to four, bottom of
the eighth inning. The Birds are beating the National seven three,
bottom of the eighth as well. The Cubs, which you
guys were just talking about with JP, are up on
the Cardinals eight three. It's officially over, yes, and it

(01:51:17):
is visually over. The Cubs beat the Cardinals eighty three.
The Giants are slight lead over the Twins one zero
top of the third inning, Mariners Angels scoreless top of
the third, Padres up on the Braves one zero bottom
of the second, Glue Jays beating the Diamondbacks one zero
top of the second Wnba Asia Wilson another double double,
twenty eight points, fifteen rebounds.

Speaker 7 (01:51:36):
The Aces have come back.

Speaker 8 (01:51:37):
They're beating the Mystics seventy six to sixty nine, less
than five minutes to go in the game Alia Boston
for the Fever eleven points, eight rebounds. The Fever are
losing to the Links thirty six to thirty four, about
three minutes to go in the first half. Now, let's
check in on the Euro Final happening right now on
Fox TV. The second half has been exciting. There were
scoreless at halftimes. Spain scored in the forty seventh the

(01:52:00):
minute Nico Williams, but Cole Palmer has tied the game
for England in the seventhy third minute, so we are
tied Spain England won one after eighty minutes of play.
You can catch all the action on Fox and later
on Fox TV the Copa America Final between Colombia and
Arpenthina that kicks off at eight Eastern time. What else
has happened today? Robert McIntyre won the Genesis Scottish Open.

(01:52:22):
Novak Djokovic lost at Wimbledon this year for the second
straight year against Carlos Alcaraz.

Speaker 7 (01:52:28):
Carlos aukraz is.

Speaker 8 (01:52:29):
Twenty one years old, his second Grand Slam win this year,
the fourth of his career in the NFL. Bengals and
Star wide receiver T Higgins, he's not going to do
an extension by Monday's deadline.

Speaker 7 (01:52:38):
He did sign his franchise tag. He's going to play
on it.

Speaker 8 (01:52:40):
But the NFL Network reports that he's going to be
a top free agent in the twenty twenty five offseason.
And sad news out of the NFL, former Ravens receiver
and Super Bowl champion Jacoby Jones.

Speaker 7 (01:52:50):
Passed away at the age of forty. There's a lot
going on, fellas.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
A lot going on, monsee. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
By the way, just the follow up on this A's
blitzing of the Phillies eighteen to three, and I agree
with the VJ.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
You know it's empty the bullpen.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Days tide the thing for the Phillies. I get that out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Yeah, but I'm looking at this game and I'm like,
the A's had three players he had multi home run games.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
Yes, yes, how often does that happen?

Speaker 7 (01:53:15):
Eight homer's total in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Home runs in this game Brown had two home runs,
Rooker had two home runs, and as you said, Butler
had three home runs. That doesn't happen very often where
a team has three players have multi home run games
in the same game.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
All Star break man, go ahead and get go ahead
and throw those fun Call up those farm league guys
two nights ago. Throw them out there, Let them get
their debuts, let them throw some let them throw some
pitches of some major league bats and get rocked around
the Philly, the Phillies. The Phillies are still fine on this.
On this EuroCup game. As you're talking, as I'm watching here,
Nico Williams, I talk a lot about Leminya Molo, which

(01:53:52):
is their sixteen year old actually turned seventeen yesterday, seventeen
year old youngest to score goal and EuroCup ever. But
this Nico Williams kids peers from and then got citizenship
and a spanyad this Spain and Chris and I were
talking in o A. They you know, euro Cup did,
won World Cup, then won EuroCup again, and then they
kind of dried it off. But you talk about a
team a country to look out for moving forward. There,

(01:54:15):
Spanya is right back. I'm sorry, your mom, is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
Going for.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Can you give me an update, yar VJ.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Since I know zero and have zero interest in this
game they call football everywhere but here. Sure, When is
the United States going to be relevant in terms of
international competition?

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
I don't. I don't say the word never. I was
about to say, I don't. I don't think never, because
I don't think that we're using the correct resources that
we have, like we're America.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
By the way, by the way, I've been I've been
hearing this tune for fifty years.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
I was in the North American Soccer League and playing
with the Cosmos and the biggest star.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
In the world.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
And everyone was exciting time every time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
Yeah, and so we and even then they were selling
us that finally, finally soccer has arrived in.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
The I mean, I remember Freddio, your perpetual idol. I
lived in DC where Freddie Due was playing with the
United We would go to r f K ten dollars
tickets on a Friday night. Man, you catch the train
and go to the game and then go club. Interviews
Land and Donovan over the years about the future look
and I like Landing a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
I many times in studio trying to sell me that
this is the year.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
And I remember what Lexai Allallis was the you know
this big and Lexi Allis is going to be I
just don't I just don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
That we're hosting the next World.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Or co host. Here is here in North in Canada, Yeah, Canada,
Mexico place in Mexico as well. Yeah, already gonna play
some of the Mexican Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
It's a co host with Canada, United States and Mexican.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
Okay, that'll be dope. I can't wait. We get the Olympics.
That's that's how the.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
United States at least gets into the World Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
You got a host. They always the host cut gets in,
all right, that's sort of the automatic. All right. They'll
put us in a pool with with with Italy and Serbia.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Alright on the other side, we're kind of weak, are
we looking forward to? We're gonna break it down. This
is Fox Sports Sunday. Harvin and Huske Here Fox Sports
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thank the best supporting crew in the history of this medium,
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Speaker 7 (01:56:17):
And yes, mine's kicking me out, so I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
All right, Martin's kicking it out.

Speaker 7 (01:56:20):
Yeah, he's yelling at me, so I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
That's okay. We can make a orterly exchange there.

Speaker 7 (01:56:26):
No, I'm gonna punch him on the way.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Okay, very good.

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
You have my blessings pushing all the buttons.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
He can barely contain himself. In a second. There's like
three minutes. We just watched the most insane sequence.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
Okay, I want to get to this boa of course,
our brilliant producer and uh yeah, okay, I just said
before the break, it's hard for me to get into
the game that we call soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
The rest of the world calls football. End of this
copea American match between Spain and England. So Spain scores
in the eighty six minute to take the two to
one lead, and so you know, celebration. We're looking at
maybe five more minutes for England. They get the corner
kick and it's a perfect corner kick for a header.
Direct line goalie makes the same but on the rebound

(01:57:11):
another direct header that a header has to stop right
in front of the net. The defender in the net
with a header to stop it, and then a third
opportunity that goes wide of the net. Unbelievable sequence to
preserve so far a two one lead. We are in
extra time right now, final minutes going off, but it

(01:57:32):
looks like Spain's gonna win. But I'll have to admit,
even if you're not a super fan of breaking this sport,
that was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
This could be heartbreak again for England. They made the final.
Thank you. They're in a final, in the last little cup.
That's why I tell people all that people don't care.
Listen that goes by me. I don't care. If you're
a sport fan and you just want to watch good competition,
I'm just put it on this like playoff hockey. I
hear people go, I don't watch hockey. Yeah, I don't
watch a lot of regular season. I don't watch it

(01:58:00):
every night, But when the playoffs start, that's when you
really tune into it because it's still just a great
Here's what the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
I have to watch this match end like this on
that sequence and the great goal late. That's great penalty kicks.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
I'm not a penalty kicks to decide an Olympic gold medal,
a World Cup championship couple America.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
No, no, no, I don't mind him what I would like,
and they everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Just sort of sits on it, basically playing out the clock,
trying to not make the mistakes the golden goal in
in soccer either like full extra time, like bring back
the golden goal.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
I think that's that's easy. I'm I'm with them moving
it back. I don't. I don't mind penalty kick to win,
but move it. Move it back, though, I think the
advantage the extra point in the NFL, move it back,
move it back, move it back. Why move it back.
It's like it's it's it should be really totally worth.
He was on side to on that on that game

(01:59:01):
winning goals. Look at that by literally a toe bye yeah,
bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
You guys are screaming on the what appears to be
the match winning goal for Spain that they were off side,
but it showed the replay and.

Speaker 6 (01:59:12):
He was not.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Yeah, it's just to me, it's just exciting his competition.
It's world this, this is leading into the Olympics. So
this is getting my juices going. Look at the track
team that we're sitting in, Team USA basketball, like the
Olympics is going to be the swimming, the gymnastics. Uh uh,
some old boles is back. Look at the storylines.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
It to me all right, So I was going to
ask you, how excited are you for the upcoming games.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
I'm super excited for it. I'm a sports saying. I'm
an ohigh school guy, a very old school.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
I mean, I go back my first memory of watching
the Olympics when I was ten Mexico City in nineteen Sixtyman,
when they when the Games are here in Los Angeles
in nineteen eighty four is exactly the time I was
working for the Raider. I was twenty six years old
and the city was empty. Everybody left town. I did
not go to a single event.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Okay, Yeah, I was in ninety six in Atlanta. It
was my high school graduation present from my mom and
my dad. So I was at the ninety six Games
in Atlanta. Forma did you oh? I went to Yeah,
I went to Vince. I went to the Games. I
met Joe Frasier at a foot locker autograph sign a smith. Yeah,
he signed. He signed my sixty four Olympic gold medal
at the Tokyo Games, he signed my sports Illustrated that

(02:00:20):
had to swimmer us swimmer Dolan on the cover of
Dolan on the cover of it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Yeah, yeah, I look forward to the Olympics. Sometimes I
say so, it's not the same. But I'm a track
and field guy.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
I'm at that. I'm old school. I go back to
the it's not just giving gold medals to us. Well,
let's not wait year after year after year, VJ for
you to come back. I love you, brother, I do man,
don't go anywhere. We got much more. Couple of guys.

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