Steve Hartman and Ephraim Salaam breakdown last week's NFL Championship Sunday and the fallout of Dan Campbell being too aggressive, the Chiefs moving on to the Super Bowl, and even put more respect on Brock Purdy's name as he heads to his first Super Bowl. Plus Steve and Ephraim give some Super Bowl Preview as the Chiefs will take on the 49ers, talk shop on the NFL HOF hopefuls, and much more!
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We are eight days away from the Super Bowl, the
matchup between the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs. It's
an outstanding matchup, no question about that. How we got
there That's going to be part of our discussion on
today's edition of Fox Football Saturday. Ephraim, I'm gonna start
the show today with something that I've been thinking about
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since the Conference Championship games last week. So over the
course of my career, the course of my life, I
hear a lot of this here, a lot of a
lot of groundcovered right, and more and more I hear this.
You need to change with the times. You need to
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get on board. Nothing is like it was. Change is inevitable.
Get with the times. So I'm thinking about this and
I'm looking back years ago and I remember I was
the co host of the first ever midday sports talk
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radio show on the West Coast ever down at six
ninety and nineteen ninety, a show that went from noon
to four. There had never been a midday sports radio
show on the West Coast. In fact, the only midday
sports radio show anywhere in the country had started the
year before with Mike and the Mad Dog. So they decided,
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if they can do it in New York, we're going
to try it here. And I'm thinking to myself, who
the hell's listening. Daytime radio at that point, this is
in nineteen ninety was geared to women because women were home.
You had like radio psychologists. Those are really big, like
lady radio psychologists, and they would take calls and talk
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to women that had problems and everything else. And I
was thinking to myself, all right, so you're asking me
to do a show in the middle of the day
and all the guys are at work, And this is
the assumption I'm making at the time, like who's listening?
And what we found out real early was, well, they're
guys that were working, a lot of guys on the road.
They were listening on the road, and it didn't take
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long for the show to catch fire, Like, Wow, what
took so long for someone to get the idea that
instead of afternoon drive, how about a sports radio show
during the day. There's an audience for it. So I
understand from my own experience that change can be a
good thing. And I've been I've been harped upon over
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and over again about analytics in sports, and I want
to take a step back. I'm not going to have
some kind of blanket statement that say all analytics are bad.
But I also think this, if you're going solely on
analytics in terms of making a coaching decision, a managing decision,
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based purely on the numbers, then I asked this question,
why do I need you? If everything's due to analytics.
I can stand there with a piece of paper and say,
all right, the chance of this happening is forty five percent,
but if I do this, it's fifty percent. I'm going
to go with the fifty percent. Why would I need
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a coach? Why would I need a manager if you're
only going to go by analytics. So everyone's trying to
make excuses for what happened a week ago. Decisions that
were being made by coaches with the idea, well he's
being aggressive, or the analytics said this, analytics said that,
And my observation, call me in the old timer, get
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off my lawn, whatever you want to call me, is
that if you had a feel for the game, you
know what the right thing should have been done as
opposed to what was done. All Right, I want to
back off for a second, Ephim, because you're of the
next tier generation, but you're you're approaching my level at
some point many years away.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean maybe like two generations remove, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right. So my point is this is that when
I was watching the Detroit Lions and the forty nine Ers,
the Lions are up twenty four to seven and a
half time, forty nine Ers get the ball first and
your defense holds hold them to a field goal. Good deal.
Now you're driving down the field. Now you're ready for
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this percentage. So they were in a position on fourd
down for Badge Lee to attempt a forty six yard
field goal. Ironically, his percentage of making that is forty
six percent. They had a fourth and two. You know what,
their percentage on that was forty seven percent. So based
on one percent they decide to go for it on
fourth and two.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Now, that would have made the game what seventeen points?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It would have been back to seventeen Again, it badly
makes the field goal back to twenty seven to ten,
a three score game late in the third quarter, late
in the third core. Yes, So in real time when
I'm watching this, all I'm thinking is this is a
no brainer. It's not a fifty plus yarder. No, Because
even if badly were to miss the field goal, Okay,
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so then the forty nine ers get the ball, it's
no big deal. They're kicker Moody. He'd already missed the
field goal. So that's tiff for tat. But when a
team stops you on fourth down, that is an emotional
game changer, and the.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Forty nine ers it's called momentum.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Momentum, and in that moment it badly misses the field goal. Fine,
the forty nine Ers take down, they're down two touchdowns.
But by stopping the Lions on fourth down, even if
it was on a drop pass, it ignited that forty
nine Er team and in a blake of a I,
especially after Jamiro Gibbs fumbles the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Times fourteen points.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Just like that, and so this gets back to a
field for the game as opposed to just simply going
with the analytics. All right, I defer to you. I'm
going to leave. Okay, lead now.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So to that point, I hope you're not still riding
around with an eight track in your car.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay, all right?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All tracks really good. They were really good back real
to day.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Don't know where you can get it serviced or even
buy an a track these days. Hope you don't even
have a CD player in your car.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Some of my best work I can't play. Let's put
it that well, we get it.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But to the point you were making, when I was
watching that game, I watched Dan Campbell and all the vibrado,
all the things that he did to change the culture
of the Detroit Lions. And trust me, I know I
played a year there. Towards the end of my career.
I played a year in Detroit and realized I wanted
to go do something else.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Now you you joined him the year after they were
zero and six.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, yes, when Jim Schwartz came in as a coach,
good coach, great coach. He's got letting hand hold nine yards.
And so as I'm watching this Detroit story. I'm pulling
for him because I know what they mean to the city,
I know what they mean the football, and so I'm like, Wow,
they really have an opportunity to do something special here.
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And then I watched him on the UH first fourth
and UH two to go up by three scores, again,
not by one, not by two, but to push the
lead back up to three scores. And if you really
look at the numbers, statistically, at that point in time,
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a team would have a hard time scoring three times
unless something drastic happened. Right if you just took your
regular possessions, a team would have a tough time mid
to late third quarter to making up a three score difference,
since you want to use analytics. And then I watched
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him choose to go for two, I mean to go
for the first down fourth and two, and I said
to myself, Wow, this has got to be the dumbest
thing that's about to happen right now. There is no
upside case in point where they were on the field.
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Say you got the first down and you went three
more plays and you didn't you only gain four more
yards after the first down, So now it would be
fourth and six. You'd probably kick the field goal. So
what did you gain. You didn't gain anything. The chances
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of you continuing to drive the ball down the field
to score a touchdown or very very low, very low
against that caliber defense in the second half. So not
only did you misread the analytics, you didn't look at
all of them. Because if you take the three points there,
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the game shift dramatically.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
In your favor to win.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That's what you need to look at, not about the
down and distance where you are on the field. But
if you're gonna use analytics, use all of them. What
happens if we go up by seventeen with six minutes
left in the third quarter, what are our percentages to win?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's the only one that matters.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I watched him fail there, and I said, man, the
game is over right at that moment, even though San
Francisco was down fourteen points, I said, Dan Campbell just
lost the game.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
They go down, they score right.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
This thing that we talked you talked about earlier, momentum
is a real thing. It's a breathing thing. It's actually
a member of the team. That's why teams love to
play at home because they can control the momentum. It's
a dangerous thing when you're on the other side of
that momentum because you don't know how to stop it.
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And so what happened is they go down to nam score.
Now it's a one possisi game instead of three. It's one. Right,
your chances of winning drop down dramatically, analytics. You come
out first, play hand the ball off fumble in your territory.
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What happens, They go and score, They tie the game.
Your chances of winning plummet, plummet because you're on the road.
Momentum has shifted and the team that you're going against,
the home team now has every advantage. You come down,
you have an opportunity to I believe, tie the game.
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You have an opportunity to tie the game. Right, let's
prolong this game. Let's try to capture some of this
momentum back. This is late in the fourth quarter. You
decide that you're gonna go for it again on fourth down.
This is how we got here. You're down three, this
is how we got here. Let's not tie the game
and the biggest game in the history of the Detroit
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Lions as we know it history. You choose to let
your ego get in the way of what's best for
you, your team, and your city. And now they're at home,
they're gonna watch the super Bowl, like we're gonna watch
the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So you don't go for the field goal to tie it,
you miss on fourth down and the forty nine er
score to go uptown and then you get a garbage
touchdown late in the game they had no chance of
You can't do what kick. Look this, this again is
the analytics scheme. But what we're talking about is this.
And you bring up the great point about this wasn't
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like going for it fourth down at you know, inside
the ten yard line, you're still if you get three
or four yards instead of a forty six yard field goal,
now you got a forty two yard field goal. Does
that really make a difference. Doesn't make a difference at all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Nope, not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So I mean, afterwards, you know, you hear Dan Campbell
defending his decision. Lion fans will back up Campbell no
matter what. It's amazing. Everyone else is looking like, what
the hell did you just do? You just blew it,
especially on the road because by the forty nine ers
stopping on fourth down, that gets the crowd back into
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it and that gets momented because up to that point,
even though it was twenty four forty nine ers that
done nothing that game the second half, they couldn't even
get in their like this game is also got it?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Oh, we have to match their points they got three weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And the fact that the Lions got the ball back
in their first possession of the same went right down
the field and it's like take the field goal, go
up seventeen and blink of an e instead of up seventeen,
it's tied points.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Pre Look, look, we saw them lose the game uh
in the regular season that changes their seeding. We saw
them go for two and then they take that away
for penalty. They back all the way up and they
went for two again from the ten yard line.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
All Right, we got a big thank you from the
forty nine ers. We also have a big thank you
for the Kansas City Chiefs. We're going a breakdown. As
disappointing as the Lion's decision was, maybe you have the
advantage of the excuse that we have a young coach
and he's ever been in that position before. I'm trying
to figure out what the excuse was for John Harbaugh
and his game plan against the Chiefs. We'll break it down.
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We're live from the tire rackt dot com studios get
it ready for the Super Bowls in Vegas this year.
It's one of the few you I will not be
hanging out at the super Bowl. Not going right, No,
not this year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well, now, I've been credentialed for twenty six Super Bowl weeks.
That's a lot of Super Bowls I've covered over the years,
a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Are you credentialed for this one?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm not, and I'm not really seeking to. I put
it this way, So my normal routine during Super Bowl
weeks was to cover the week and then get home
and usually get paid to make an appearance watching the game.
There's nothing better than that. So you get to watch
the game and get paid at the same time. Love that.
(15:37):
That's a double. So I've only actually been in attendance
at four super Bowls, and I feel like those are
four super Bowls I missed. But to me, super Bowl
is about the whole TV experience. You got the commercials,
you got the halftime show and everything else. It's not
like a regular game when you're going to the game.
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And I've sat Inigular's seats. I've said in the press box,
I feel those four super Bowls that I actually was
in attendance are games that I missed, So I'm looking
forward to this matchup, or I really am, but it's
not one that should have happened. We talked about the
Lions failure to protect a twenty four to seven a
half time lead. The Lions should have been in the
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Super Bowl, and the Ravens had every reason to be
in the super Bowl as well, except for a complete
miscalculation on a game plan against Kandas City Chiefs. Now,
last week, you were not here. Kerry Rhodse was here.
Carrie went to Louisville. He's a friend of Lamar Jackson,
so I asked him, have you spoken to Lamar this week? Yes,
and I said, my concern about Lamar Jackson in this
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matchup is that Patrick Mahomes is on the other side
of the field and that he comes in with the
mindset that I have to outplay Patrick Mahoons being the
assumed MVP this season, and that's a dangerous thing going
against a quarterback who has the postseason pedigree of a
guy like Patrick Mahomes. If Lamar Jackson stays in his lane,
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does what he does best, the Ravens should be okay
at home. So what happened. Now we talked about fourth down.
How about what happened in this game? The Chiefs go
right down the field, score boom, seven to nothing. Ravens. Well,
actually the Ravens had the ball first. They had a
three and out. Now you're down seven nothing, you have
a fourth down in your own territory, and they go
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for it. Now. John Harbaugh is one of those coaches
that was really on the edge of being that first
guy to start going in on fourth down. It worked.
Keeper goes for twenty one, handoff for fifteen. Next thing,
throw a perfect touchdown past the say Flowers, and we're
tied at seven. I'm like, we got a game, except
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for one small problem. At that point, the Ravens decided
our guy can match Mahomes throw for throw a band
in the running game, and I'm like, wait a second, here,
you're at home. You were it was never you're never
down two touchdowns in this game is a one score
game the entire way, and they completely abandoned their running game,
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even though it was clear that Lamar Jackson was not
going to throw a high percentage of against oh, the
number one rank pass defense in the NFL. You talk
about a miscalculation, isn't all Lamar Jackson, Yeah, he didn't execute.
But I'm looking at John Harbaugh, the coach of the team,
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standing on the sideline watching his offense sputter trying to
throw the football, and I'm thinking, what are you doing?
That one to me was on Harbaugh first and Lamar
Jackson's second. That was my thought.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
So coming into this game in this season, and Lamar
had a lot to prove. New offensive coordinator, more passing,
less dependency on your legs, so less called runs. Okay,
that's great, keep them healthy. He does have a tremendous arm.
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He can throw from anywhere on the field. Got the touch,
he got everything. He's a quarterback, it's an MVP. But
they came out sluggish and slow last week against Houston,
and then the second half, Lamar did what he did best.
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He had eleven carries for one hundred yards it's almost
ten yards to carry and two rushing touchdowns. It completely
threw the Houston defense off kilter because you can't guard everybody,
and so I'm like, oh, okay, they figured it out fast.
Forward to the the biggest game of his life, THEFC
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Championship game, and you look at the numbers. Lamar Jackson
threw the ball thirty seven times. It's a seven point game.
It's a seven point game. He threw the balls thirty
seven times, he ran the ball eight And even though
he only ran the ball eight, he still rushed for
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fifty four yards. That's seven yards to carry.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Think about this, thirty seven pass attempts in a one
score game. It's not like you were down two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
They ran the ball sixteen total times.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Crazy number one rushing defense offense in the league.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
So to me, what happened was and it's not only
Lamar's fault. When you have to put your ego aside
for the betterment of the team, then you gotta do
what you have to do. Yeah, you got Mark Andrews back,
that's great. What I watched Lamar do is just play
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into the hands of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's like a dream for them.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
They were petrified of Lamar just taking off because they
know that's their way to prolonged drives. The best way
to beat a quarterback the caliber of Patrick Mahomes is
to keep him standing right over there on the sideline
as you complete third and short after third and short
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after third and short.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Did you see time of possession in this game? It
was like two to one.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
So when I watched Lamar Jackson sitting in the pocket
and he's patting the bat the ball three times, oh,
I said, Oh, this is not Lamar Jackson. Lamar hits
on his back foot. He looks, looks, Pat's gone. You
can't you can't cover that as a defense. You can't
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cover that. Which you can't cover is a quarterback who
can't get out of the pocket, who's going to hold
onto the ball, and that's what they forced him to do.
He had an opportunity to take off. I was just
I was screaming at the top of my lungs. Run, run,
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you had the whole field. You're one of the best
athletes on the entire field.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Just go, just go. They'd be in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
The reason we've got the forty nine Ers versus the
Chiefs and the Super Bowl two people, Dan Campbell and
John Harbaugh. They lost games they should not have lost.
But that does give us a great matchup and we're
gonna get into that. But first let's find out what
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it's trending right now. Brian Finley is here be Fenn
another long day if you be fan. He does all
the work here at Fox Sports Radios, multitude of jobs,
including doing a little postgame UCLA brewin basketball talk tonight,
filling in for the great Tim Kats.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I expect you to be calling in, Steve as a UCLA.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I have TV work tonight, so I'm just sitting around
doing nothing. So yeah, I can call in, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Call in, and I want to hear what you have
to say about the game after the win, because the
Bruins are on the up and up.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
They've won four of the last five after losing eight
out of nine. I was talking about this or five
and five. In the conference. The Pac twelve sucks. I mean,
it's a terrible basketball conference this year. Arizona keeps losing
and they're supposedly a top twenty team.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'm looking. Can UCLA win six of the last eight,
maybe get a three seed, because they do, they have
to win the conference tournament have any chance to go
to the Big Dame.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I think we can all agree that Arizona is extremely
overrated and they talk a big game and they don't
always deliver.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So that's the USC dead last alone in the Pac
twelve day. Can they sign the number one high school recruit.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
They did, But you know what they do. They play
soft wow, And I did say that. But teams that
win against them, and I think Andy Enfield, their coach,
would be the first to tell you this, Like teams
are out aggressiveing that's not even a word.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Take the aggressiveness to them, they sort of back down.
It's it's like the Mattador defense.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
How does he survive?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Well, he's a great recruiter and a lot of the
problems that they're having right now are injury related. So
there is that obvious, low hanging fruit of an excuse.
But they don't have their top player, Isaiah Calliger, he's
been out. They've got guys in and out, so and
that's the same thing for Oregon, who UCLA is going
to be hosting tonight at poly Pavilion. Organ's got some
injury issues as well. So you can go to that excuse,
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but you can only go for it for so long.
All right, Well, all right, we'll get to our March
matters a little bit later on. Speaking of injuries, a
Bulls superstar Lezach Levine will be out for the rest
of the season because of that right foot injury. He's
gonna have surgery on that now and he is going
to miss about four to six weeks to well. Embiid
has a displaced flap of the meniscus in his left
knee and he is considering rest rehab or the other
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option would be committing himself to surgery. The Dolphins finalize
Anthony Weaver as their defensive coordinator. Cliff Kingsbury, finalist for
the Washington Commander's offensive coordinator. Vacancy did the hula hoop
around the verbal agreement he made with the Raiders to
be their OC, and Kingsbury and Las Vegas reportedly got
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stuck in a contract dispute, and rumor is that Chip Kelly,
who has had two interviews with the Raiders in the
last few days, could be the one that Las Vegas
tabs to be their next offensive coordinator. Also, NASCAR has
decided to run their clash tonight at the La Colseum
as opposed to tomorrow in hopes of avoiding some of
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the rain, and our sister station FS one will carry
it starting at eight eastern times in college shops. We
did see a win for number one Yukon as they
paulish off of victory against Saint John seventy seven to
sixty four.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yes he from.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Salaam, what a win for your San Diego State asclet
Yes at home eighty one to sixty seven eight triumph
on national television is number seventeen Utah State. And how
about this is a nice win, a resume boosting win
for number eight Kansas at home as they take it
to number four Houston seventy six to sixty five hundred.
Dickinson had twenty points and eight rebounds. We do know
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that the Live Golf Invitational and Maya Copa is going
on their first event of the year. Joaquin Neeman is
your leader there. And as far as the AT and
T Pebble Beach Pro Am on the PGA Tour side,
Wyndham Clark, Yeah, I had to research that name for
a second, but yeah, seventeen hunder is where he is.
He leads all by two shots. And Steven e from
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he shot a sixty today in their third round, had
a couple of missed putts by millimeters to get himself
inside sixty. That sixty is a course record at Pebble
Beach and as they flipped the microphone back over to
you eat from and Steve. I know, Steve, you shoot sixty,
but that's for nine holes.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Never, you know, the problem when you don't play a
lot of There was a time when I actually played
quite a bit of golf, and I actually learned how
to sort of play a little bit. I actually broke
ninety once on a legit course, not like a you know,
championship level. But I mean, you know, sure, but the
rare times that I ever play anymore, I can still
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hit the ball off the tee pretty well. The short game,
short game gone, you know. I mean I I outside
of a tapping, I can't make a plot.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
When I saw Tom Brady and you guys probably saw
this within the week when he duffed his driver at
Pebble Beach, the first person I thought of was you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
No, that is that would be the biggest shock to you?
Is Well, it always helps to have a few bloody
Mary's before I t off something like that at But no,
I learned how to turn, so I don't slice. You know,
there's there's always that big difference between slicing and hooking
and fading and drawing. Yeah, that's what you want to
fade and draw what are we doing, guys?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Let me tell let me tell you this one hundred
the people listening can't care less exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Thank you very much, all right, thank you so much.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I just I just yawned in the studio and I
was like, oh, snap.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
This is real, all right, we're here live from the
tirerech dot com. Stitious. I went down that path. I'm
sorry about that, all right. I want to get back
to a guy named Patrick Mahomes, so I said going
into this game against the Ravens. If he pulls off
the double winning at Buffalo at Baltimore having never had
(28:44):
a road playoff game before, there are only two names
ahead of him in the history of the NFL that
I would say have a better resume at quarterback, Tom
Brady being one and Joe man Tanna be in two.
And Joan Bontana is there because of his four for
four in the Super Bowl and never even throwing a
(29:06):
single interception in those four games. He's like the Michael Jordan,
you know, six and six in the NBA Finals. That's
how That's how Montana is. Nobody else. See you later,
Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, throw any name out there. Mahomes
has passed you because of his ability to come up
with the big plays in the biggest games.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So that would give him if he wins this game,
I'd to give him three super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's three super.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Bowls in six years.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Correct, Yeah. Well, he's the first quarterback ever to start
six consecutive conference championship games. The only other quarterback that
did five was Ken Stabler of the Raiders. Ironically, he
lost four of those five. He started six consecutive AFC
championship games. That's never been done before, no quarterback operating,
(29:54):
nobody has ever done that. So he is in that
rarefied air. So I want to ask you as you
watch Patrick Mahomes from your thirteen year experience playing in
the National Football League, playing with, playing against so many quarterbacks,
more than we could talk about. When you watch Patrick Mahomes,
(30:14):
and I look at I too. Before last season, I
was one of those when Tyreek Hill left for Miami
and he said, that's it. You're going to find out
Without Tyreek Hilly, he won the Super Bowl and now
playing their best football when it counts, when they need
(30:34):
a play, Mahomes delivers. So when you watch him play,
he from Why what is it about Patrick Mahomes that
separates himself from all the rest?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
When you watch.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Patrick Mahomes play, you get a sense that he can
make any in every throw, or you get a sense
that he'll make the right decision, whether it's the read,
whether it's scrambling. He's not a scrambling quarter it's not
(31:16):
a running quarterback. But what we've seen, especially last year
in the Super Bowl, without his legs, they don't win
that Super Bowl. And so you're at a position to
when you're watching him play, it's a masterclass. Right, you
take away the fastest receiver in the league, they go
back and they win the Super Bowl. You have a
(31:37):
bevy of drops all year, I mean Kelsey dropping them.
Every single receiver has dropped them. We've seen them dip
this year offensively further than we've seen since it's you know,
he's been started there. But yet here we are in
the Super Bowl and the gauntlet that he had to
go through to get to the Super Bowl. I mean
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it was one in Buffalo, one degree on the road.
Then he has to go to Baltimore, the MVP of
the league. Okay, he makes the right plays all the time,
which is annoying if you're not a Kansas City Chiefs fan.
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So watching him play, you understand. And Brady had a
little bit of this, a lot a bit of this.
Excuse me, He's never out of it no matter what's
going on in the game, how much time is on
the clock. This is the same man with nine seconds
on the clock put his team in position to kick
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a field goal nine seconds. I've never seen that before
in my life. He has a way of doing exactly
what you need him to do. This run is really
just beginning for him, because I mean, he could be
four super Bowls in six year.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
All right, So this is where I want to jump
in for a quick moment here because I mentioned the
two guys ahead of him. Now here's something about Joe Montana.
Between his first two Super Bowl wins and his second
Super Bowl wins two wins, they had three straight one
and outs. A couple of them were ugly ugly. In fact,
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in two of those three games, the forty nine Ers
didn't score a touchdown, so they had three consecutive one
and outs and then ended up winning another back to
back Super Bowl. Tom Brady had a ten year hiatus.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
From his first three to the next three, there was
a ten year gap, so it was a shorter gap
for Montana, a longer gap for Brady to get back
to winning super Bowls. Can Mahomes avoid that and just
keep rolling?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And it I mean, obviously, if he were to win
three straight super Bowls, winning this super Bowl and then
the next, now you've done something no one's ever done.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And I'll tell you the key to that. He is
the key to that right now. Of course, health has
a lot to do it. You know, you remember Brady
lost the whole year with the knee. But here's what
Brady did better than anybody else. And we still don't
know what New England necessarily did with the money that
they saved on Brady.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Brady always from the Fox Sports Studios.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
In law, Brady always saw legacy before money.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But I think has done the same thing.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
He's playing on our market value, way on our market value.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
His market value was sixty five million dollars a year.
That's what his market value is. It'll be sixty five
million dollars a year. You know what happens if you
pay a one person that on the team.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You got that one person, all right? Now.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Case in point, if he continues to have these team
friendly deals, they'll be a You're going to have receivers
lining up to come play there, to take less to
play there. If they can keep this model going, then
he has an opportunity to win not only seven, but
more so.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
When he lost the Super Bowl to Tom Brady. Okay,
he lost the Super Bowl to Tom Brady. A lot
of people have losing a Super Bowl to brock perty
is it even possible. We're gonna break down the forty
nine ers chances of upending Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
This is Fox Football Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
So have you been watching any of the Pro Bowl games?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
No, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, there was actually a time when I was
young where the Pro Bowl Game was an opportunity for
players to sort of test their level against the best
players in the league. You didn't see players backing out
of the game unless they had a legitimate injury. You
would have maybe one or two replacements for legitimately injured players.
Now you have thirty replacements. Gardner Minshew is now a
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Pro bowler. Gardner Minshew's man, I wish I would have
played in this. I mean, you would have had ten
Pro Bowls.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I would have been amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
You would have had ten Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I played in the era with some of the greatest
offensive linemen on the planet Earth.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Offensive tackles are all in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
By the way, speaking of Hall of Fame coming up
in the next hour, you know I'm a big follower
of the Hall of Fame. I'm a little obsessed over
the top, and based on my knowledge of the voting
process I'm going to give you, I'm going to do
a prediction coming up in the next hour as as
far as the five modern candidates that are going to
make up the class of twenty twenty four, I bet
(37:06):
I'll be close. But I got some ideas. I got
some ideas on that coming up in the next hour.
I'm looking forward to that rock party has more playoff
wins than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, Brock Party got a more playoff wins than a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, so he's already won three playoff games. Is a
three three playoff games in his short career. And by
the way, these two wins that he has shown this
year both come from behind wins.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, those are the intangible things that we heap on
to elite quarterbacks right when you need it the most.
Can you do something right? In that Baltimore game, they
were down by seven, Lamar Jackson, we need something from you.
We got nothing. In the Buffalo game, Josh Allen, we
(37:56):
meet something from you. They got nothing. And so Rock
Party we need something. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
And I'll say this about brock Party, and I stand
by this. If brock Party, who's playing twenty six games,
won twenty one of them. If Brock Party was the
first pick in the draft last year instead of Bryce
Young and this was his resume, we would be praising him, right.
But because he was the last pick in the draft,
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we refuse to praise him. We give praise to everybody
around him and say he's average. And to me, that's
not fair.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, and I felt pray to this. You and I
have been defenders of Rock Party.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Look at his numbers.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
But then they had that lost to Baltimore. That happens,
and I was like, all right, well that wasn't that
was it happens?
Speaker 3 (38:53):
It does.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
They all have ugly games.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Tell me one great quarterback that hasn't had.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Another guniet ugly games.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
This kid has played twenty six football games. Yes, he's
won twenty five of them.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
He's been to two NFC Championship games and a Super
Bowl and a year.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Here's the one two years. Here's the one thing I know.
Brock Purty will not do that Lamar Jackson did. And
that's fall prey to the idea that I got to
outplay Patrick Mahons.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Oh no, he just gonna play his game.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
He's only he's gonna play his game with a game
he doesn't compare. Even if he doesn't complete a pass.
If they win this game, he'll get acknowledged.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
One of the great ironies of pro football history is
Joe Namas winning Super Bowl three. He did not throw
a touchdown pass in that game. In fact, if anyone,
based on the numbers, should have been the MVP of
the game was Matt Snell, the running back. He had
thirty carries one hundred and twenty one yards, and he
scored the only touchdown of the game for the Jets.
He was the MVP. They gave it to Namath because
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he was the quarterback. Now, in those days, quarterbacks called
their plays, so he doesn't have somebody. So he had
a field for the game. And he felt like one way,
because the Colts had a high powered offense, let's run clock.
We're gonna run the football we know we can and
once it was successfully continued. Don Maynard, his Hall of
Fame wide receiver who had two touchdowns in the AFL
(40:19):
Championship Game, caught zero passes in that Super Bowl. He
used him as a decoy the entire game. You know,
didn't complain. Don Maynard, never the w man, never complain
Hall of Fame receiver, he all time record for receptions
at the time of his retirement, never complained that he
didn't catch a single pass in that Super Bowls crazy.
(40:40):
And I believe brock Purty is of that mindset.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Man. His kid is a gamer, all right, Who's gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Make that Hall of Fame class At twenty twenty four,
I have some ideas about that much more on the
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the NFL Honors Show, well, the giveaway all the awards.
Its gonna be interesting when Lamar Jackson is named the MVP.
And again, all these awards are voted on at the
end of the regular season. And I've been asked over
the years, because I'm a little bit of an awards freak,
well big time, whether or not how do we talk
about the Heisman? We talk about all these awards major well,
(41:48):
every single sport votes on the season awards based on
regular season and not the postseason. And then I say,
I don't have a problem with that because Ultimately, what's
more valuable being a regular season MVP or being a
Super Bowl MVP?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Super Bowl MVP all day.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Exactly same thing with being an NBA Finals MVP or
a World Series MVP or you know the Stanley c
the con smythe which is given to the best player
in the postseason. Most people would say that that's a
more prestigious honor than any regular season honors you might get, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Because when you look at it, you know, based on
that there have been some league mvpes who've never played
in a super Bowl or an NBA Finals or a
World Series.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Sure, so.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
The whole point is to win it all.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Right, Now, what they used to do with these regular
season awards voted on at the Associated Press in the
NFL is that they would announce them in the course
going to the Super Bowl. Then they created this NFL
honor show, which can be awkward because like in the
case of Lamar Jackson, He's going to stand up there
be handed the MVP award and people are going to like, well,
(43:07):
how's he the MVP after what he did last week
against the team. Again, the ward was voted on, you know,
before last day of the regular season. Also announced will
be the new Hall of Fame class. Now, this is
something from I follow like no other, and I have
people I talked to and we throw ideas out there
(43:29):
try to come up with predictions on who exactly is
going to make up the class. I'm not going to
include the old timers or the coaching Canada. I'm talking
about the five modern inductees into the Class of twenty
twenty four. So they announced fifteen finalists and five of
them will make it. Question is which five?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Which five?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
So I'm going to break this down for you right now?
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I'm ready, all right.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So there are two first ballot finalists first year of
eligible ability Boom. Their finalists Julius Peppers and Antonio Gates.
They both go in right, yes, No, really, here's my
theory on this. I think Julius Peppers is automatically getting in.
(44:18):
But I'm going to tell you why I don't believe
Antonio Gates will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Two reasons. One, There's only been one tight end ever
to be first ballot ever, Tony Gonzalez. And as great
as Gates was, he doesn't have those kind of numbers
that Gonzalez has two You got busted for pds late
(44:41):
in his career. And by the way, did I tell
you that Shannon Sharp called my radio show after that
came out? This was unbelievable. I'm like, they like, we
got Shannon Sharp on the phone. I'm like what. And
he wanted to dismiss Antonio Gates from ever getting into
the Hall of Fame. I'm like, that's not gonna happen.
It was a bizarre call, but it was actually him
(45:04):
calling in the show. But I believe the only other
tight end that will be a first ballot guy will
be Gronk, who is ineligible yet for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I think Travis Kelcey as well well.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
And Travis kelce down the road and fair or not.
And again we're talking about a guy, Antonio Gates who
has more touchdown receptions than any tight end in the
history of the game. I think they're gonna say he's
not Tony Ganzalas. So that's one guy, Julius Peppers. Okay,
all right, There's two guys that I think have been
(45:36):
very close that are finally going to get in. One
of them is Devin Hester. Now, this has been the
big argument about a guy who probably will be the
worst wide receiver ever to go into the Hall of Fame.
Then he plays some defensive back as well. He couldn't
do those things, but as a kick return artist, twenty
(45:59):
returned to touchdowns and that doesn't include the opening kickoff
of the Super Bowl he played.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
In brother That brother was Danger Russ Again.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Can you write the history of the game without mentioning
Devin Hister. No, No, He's the greatest return man in
the history of the game. I think hester gets in.
Another guy I think that's going to get in he's
been closed the last couple of years is Patrick Willis.
Willis is one of those guys that had a shortened
career career, but when he played Pro Bowl, All.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Pro like every year, best in the game.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
So I think those are two specialty guys, one because
of a shortened career, one because he's a return guy.
We've never had a pure return guy really get in
the Hall. I think they get in, all right. That's
three of the five. This is where it gets tricky.
So there are three wide receivers and they've all been
on this ballot several times. Tory Holt, Reggie Wayne and
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Andre Johnson. One of those guys has got to make
it this year. And I'm going to tell you why
I'm picking the one guy. You look at Tory Holt,
he had a Hall of Fame quarterback and a Hall
of Fame receiver on the other side of Isaac Bruce.
If you look at Reggie Wayne, he had a Hall
of Fame quarterback and a Hall of Fame receiver on
the other side. And Marvin Harrison, Andre Johnson, Matt Schaub,
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David Carr, David Carr, Matt Schaub.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Oh, I know I was there, Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
So based on that, because they're gonna break that. I
guarantee they're gonna break this log gym. They're gonna say
if Andre Johnson had if he was part of the
greatest Shaw on turf, or if he had Peyton Manning,
think of the number he had three years, over fifteen
hundred yards receiving.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
First receiver to ever do it, and back to back
years for three years.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
So I'm gonna say Andre Johnson is my fourth guy,
all right. I know you're a big offensive line guy,
Jari Evans, Willie Anderson. See the problem with Willie Anderson
and is what is he the fifth best offensive tackle
of his era? As great as he was, he wasn't
Walter Jones, he wasn't Orlando Pates, he wasn't Jonathan Ogden,
he wasn't Willie RoAF.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
God, those guys are so good.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
And those guys are all Hall of famers.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Man, those guys are so good.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
So I'm going to eliminate those guys. And that gets
down to two pass rushers, Jared Allen and Dwight Freeney.
Dwight Freeney, so Jared Allen's been on the ballot a
couple of extra times. But my guess is a guy
you've talked to me about over and over again, the
biggest nightmare. And I believe the committee. I know they
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all listen to the show and they've heard you many
times talk about because I've asked you, who was Dwight?
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Not even the question.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
He was a nightmare?
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Brother, it is, brother, were a nightmare. Now.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I got to know Dwight when he came back to
San Diego.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Super guy, great.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Guy, a lot of fun. But I'm gonna I'm gonna
go with freemy slide edge there. Obviously he's got the
Super Bowl with the Colts, so he checks all the boxes.
So that's that's my prediction. I'm going to predict Julius Peppers,
Devin Hester, Patrick Willis, Andre Johnson, and Dwight Freemy. I'll
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bet I get at least three of those. I hope,
so maybe four.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I hope never.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I'm never. I'm never five for five. But I know
that is my prediction right there.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
I hope it's Dre.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I mean, Gates, Gates is tough, but I keep thinking
they're going to pass on Gates. I don't know why
it is. Well you say it, why, Well, I gave
you two reasons why. Because I don't think that they
look at him in the and they don't hold tight
ends at the same level some of the other positions
they don't. I don't. I don't think they're gonna look
at him as first but he probably will make it
next year, but not first ballot. Tell everybody why Dwight
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Freeney was a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
DWIGHTE.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Freeingy was the perfect combination of speed and power. Early
in his career, he was all speed, speed, speed speed,
Get you a field spin underneath, get you a field
spin underneath, Go inside, spin outside, Okay, I'm a basketball player.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I could take speed.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
What happens with speed is it doesn't allow you to
stay down and ground yourself.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
As an offensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
You have to be up in light on your feet
to be able to change direction with him.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I'll never forget. And I had played against d White.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
You know, five six times the speed speed speed speed speed.
We have hilatious battles out there, one on one whole game.
And I remember we were in I think I was
playing in Jacksonville and we went to Indianapolis and with
the crowd noise in him brother and I remember I
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sat out on him and he was rushing up Phield.
He took two steps and he turned and put his
helmet down. It hit me right in the chest. All
I saw was stadium lights.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
I saw Timber.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I just saw stadium lights and then the quarterback's foot
and I said, oh my god, threw me off the
whole game.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Do you talk to him, like, what was that?
Speaker 4 (51:39):
I talked to him after the game. Yeah, I said, bro,
what was that?
Speaker 3 (51:44):
He said?
Speaker 4 (51:44):
My coach had sat down with me and we watched
every game I ever played against you, and I never
got in a sack against you. And he said, you've
done everything except power. So that's all we worked on,
and it changed everything. Asked Jonathan Notnton, asked all the greats.
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His speed to power was better than anybody's in the league,
hands down. So what he did was he made you
start guessing is it speed? Is it power? And he's
too fast for you to guess. He's too fast for
you to guess, and he's he made it up. He
made it his job to make you guess wrong. That's
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how quick we remember. It's the safety at Syracuse, right,
it was a safety turned into a defensive end with
safety speed, and it just made you uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
It made you uncomfortable the whole game.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
Normally, when you're playing out there at tackle, you can
go sixty plays.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
You be uncomfortable twenty.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Being uncomfortable for sixty plays or fifty five plus plays
makes for an awfully long evening.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Well, if I'm right, can you imagine having bookend Peppers
and Freemy? How'd you like to go against that defensive friend?
Speaker 4 (53:13):
No, and I've gone against both of them.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, those are high level. I believe Peppers is an automatic,
absolute automatic. All right, that's my prediction. I don't think
I don't know if I've ever gotten five for five,
but I think my guesses are pretty good. Right now,
we'll see how close we get. We're gonna get back
to the big game, the forty nine Ers and the
Chiefs and why this is the best possible matchup for
(53:39):
this year's Super Bowl. This is Fox Football Saturday, Steve
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off the air. Thanksious to see if any of my
Hall of Fame predictions come true. See how good I
did there? All Right? So, I know a lot of
people when the Chiefs especially won, it was like ugh,
(54:21):
which is basically what we used to get with the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (54:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
I've always said this about team sports individual sports. I
think all sports are better when you have a dominant team.
When you have one team or one individual dominating a
sport like Tiger Woods didn't golf, or you know Roger
Feeder and tennis, or you know a Martine or Serena Williams,
(54:48):
something like that, when you have it on the team situation.
Same thing you know back in the sixties when the
Celtics and UCLA were dominating in the basketball world as
much as we at the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
I'm not sure about they see.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
But I'm telling you it gives the sport an identity
and it gives the sports something to shoot at. So
this is going to be the fourth Chiefs Super Bowl
in the last five years. The Super Bowl that did
not have the Chiefs was the Rams and Bengals. I'm
(55:24):
sorry unless you're a Rams fan or a Bengals fan.
That was a pretty forgetable Super Bowl close game. It's
embarrassing for the Rams because way more Bengal fans showed
up at SOFI Stadium the Rams fans. But that is sucke.
We remember the Super Bowls that the Patriots are in,
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especially remember those that they lost, losing to the Giants
twice and Eli Manning and then Nick Foles. Nick Foles
beat Tom Brady and he was the difference in that
game and Doug Peterson out to Bill Belichick that day.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
So to me, it's a really good thing to have
the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. And I'm not a
Chiefs fan by any stretch of the imagination. I appreciate
what they do. I'm just not rooting. Okay, So there
are now theories out there that this whole thing's been rigged.
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These are these are the outsiders. These are people that
are on the outside and have no stake in the
NFL at all.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
There was a lot of money to be made.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Because we have a presidential election year, and the reports
are that President Biden is trying to get an endorsement
from her and that the Chiefs are destined to win,
so that she's literally going to be like on camera
after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl saying vote for
President Biden. This is how absurd this whole thing is.
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Or the fact that Travis Kelsey is going to get
down on a knee after the game, remember the Boise
State player Ken Johnson, No, he's going to actually propose
to her national tease. These are the theories that are
being thrown out there by people that absolutely have no idea.
I will say this, I don't really care about her
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one way or the other, but she will have zero
impact on this game. I agree, zero, whether they win,
whether they lose. Taylor Swift is not accountable one way
or the other, so we can leave her out of
the equation as far as this game is concerned. Though, again,
I'm trying to get the visuals. Sometimes you get a
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visual on a game, and I'm trying to visualize Brock
Party consoling Travis. Excuse me, hold on, I've just been
handing the notes here. I'm just I'm trying to vision
Brock Purty consoling Patrick Mahomes after beating him in the
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Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Wouldn't be great.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
I can't get that visual in my head. I would
love to me that doesn't register. I see Mahomes being
gracious to Brock Party, saying your day will come. You
got a kid, You got a kid. Exactly. That to
me is because again when Tom Brady was seeing Mahomes
after you know, the Bucks blew out the cheese. Yeah,
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don't worry, You'll have plenty of opportunities. This was probably
my last ehrah. That one made sense. What doesn't make
sense to me in this game. Is Brock Purty walking
over to Mahomes Saint, Gee, man, I you know you're
You're still the greatest, you know. I don't see that happening.
I don't know how you could bet against Mahomes in
this game.
Speaker 4 (58:47):
It's hard to bet against Mahomes unless you're a Niner fan.
And look, I'm pulling for Brock because I love the story.
I love mister irrelevant being also relevant. I love him
being the story. I love the guy making the least
amount of money winning the super Bowl and being the
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super Bowl MVP. To me, as a writer in Hollywood,
that's a hell of a story. I want to see that.
I want to go to that movie. I hope his
parents give me the rights to his story.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
If Brock Purty beats Patrick Mahomes, where does his star
power go?
Speaker 4 (59:34):
What do we do with brock Purty? What are you
talking about? What do we do with Tom Brady?
Speaker 2 (59:42):
But that was a different time.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
I mean the two thousand and one season, in the
twenty twenty three season, or light years apart.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
In this day and age, brock Purty beats Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
After thoughts are after thoughts who did Tom Brady be?
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, this is how you
start your legacy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
This is how you do it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Nobody thought Tom Brady was going to be what he became.
The crazy thing. The difference between Tom Brady and Patrick
Mahomes is everyone can see it in Patrick Mahomes, No
one saw it in Tom Brady. No one sees it
in Brock Party. They're more like than Mahomes and Brady are.
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That's what I've been trying to get people to understand.
Tom Brady and Brock Purdy are more like and have
more in common than Mahomes and Brady. So when people
were like, oh well this, and oh well that, or
he can't do this and he can't do that, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Remember all of that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
They were talking about Tom Brady, who ends up and
then to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. Hmm,
but we can heat praise over here. But this kid
is basically doing something no one's ever done.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Right and again, one Brady. When people talk about Tom
Brady as the goat, and the record speaks for itself.
Ten super Bowls, seven wins.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Ten, that's crazy. Ten got to start gotta start with one.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
But they say he didn't have the strongest arm. He
certainly wasn't the best athletes, wasn't Did.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
You see brock Party take off and use his legs
last week?
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I just go back to twenty eight to three against
the Falcons. You know what, I'll never forget about that
Super Bowl. So they're down nineteen and they kick a
field goal and I was like, what the hell is that?
So it's like, well, then it's a two score game.
I go, you're down sick. I guess technically, yeah, if
you were to get I don't know, two touchdowns and
two two boy conversion, which they did, which exactly what
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they did, and then went and overtime.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Hey man, I bet Kyle Shannan will make that mistake again.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
The knock on rock Party was is that most of
his games early on were forty nine or blowouts, So
so he hadn't proven himself and yet in this well,
let me ask.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
You this, Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yeah, did they have the same team that Trey Lance
was quarterbacking?
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Did they have the same team that Jimmy Garoppolo's quarterback?
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
So what are we talking about here?
Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
This kid did knocked into the driver's seat and it
became a completely different team.
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
He is engineered to come from behind victories in this postseason.
Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
I'm going back to last postseason when he was on
that seven game run, right, seven in a row until
he got hurt in the the NFC Championship game, right,
which in my opinion, he was going to annihilate Philadelphia.
So all we've seen these kids do in twenty six
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games is win twenty one of them. Okay, that to
me sounds like a hell of a start to a career.
And it's not like he's dinking and duncan look at
his numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
He can throw the ball down the field.
Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
And by the way he ran in this game, biggest
plays for him in that game.
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Again, Lamar didn't he did?
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
He did? He ever ran over one gay s that one.
He put his head down.
Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Why guess why? Because it meant something. He wants it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
And that's how Mahomes is. Mahomes runs with purpose. That's it, man,
not just he runs for first downs.
Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Look, this is gonna be It's gonna be a great game.
Both have great top top five defenses this year, both
have prolific offensive weapons. It's just going to be a
great game.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I agree with you, and I think ultimately it was
the best possible Super Bowl matchup. I agree, the defending
Super Bowl champion Chiefs against a forty nine er team
that may have been there a year ago. He doesn't
go down with that injury getting Eagles.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
All right, let's find out what's trending right now. I
don't know if he's as excited as we are about
the Super Bowl matchup. Do you really care Beefin about
forty nine Ers versus the Chiefs. I don't really care.
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
You know. I am an NFL fan free agent. We've
talked about this, being that I'm from San Diego and
the team that used to be there.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I'm going to get you're sort of spoiling it because
I didn't get a chance to talk to him about
Harbaugh last week. So we're going to get into that
because Harbaugh has made some very bold statements.
Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
Well did you know the statement that he made as
a quarterback for then San Diego Chargers see and Ryan
Leaf that one year went one and fifteen together.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I think that was the two thousand season. Yeah, So
I was in San Diego and Harbaugh joined the team,
so he came in in ninety nine, the year after
Leaf's rookie year, they had a fill in because Leif
was hurt and he actually was like a five hundred
quarterback that year, didn't play poorly. But then the next
year they started the season with Leaf because they were
committed to him. He was then they brought in Harbor.
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He lost five straight games and those are the last
five games he ever played in the NFL. One in fifteen,
and then two years later got hired as a assistant
coach with the Raiders and the rest of hisstory.
Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
Yeah, and then he went to University of San Diego
and Stanford, and yeah, absolutely, well, he's made it a
bigger deal with all of his success in college as
a coach. But when it comes to a guy going
down injury wise, you guys are mentioning that just moments ago,
Bowl superstar Zach Lavine he is going to be undergoing
season ending surgery on his right foot, so he should
be out about four to six months. Joelle Embiid, according
(01:05:34):
to reports, as that displaced flap of the meniscus in
his left knee. He's considering rest, rehab or surgery so
there are two different options there for him. As far
as the NFL is concerned. The Dolphins finalized Anthony Weaver
as their defensive coordinator. Cliff Kingsbury could be on the
top list for the Washington Commanders in regards to their
(01:05:55):
offensive coordinator vacancy. He essentially did the audible to the
Las Vegas Raiders, saying that he verbally agreed essentially to
be their OC and then pulled out, And reports are
suggesting that there was a contract dispute between Kingsbury and
Las Vegas, and rumor could be that Chip Kelly could
fill in that role as the Vegas OC now that
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the opportunity is open, and considering that he also has
had two interviews with the team in the last few days.
As far as what is going on in college shoots
Number one Yukon with a big win on Fox Television
earlier today against Saint John's seventy seven to sixty four
to the final score. How about Hunter Dickinson going off
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for Kansas.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Don't do the run clock, but definitely a great shot offense.
Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
SAYJ at the top, I go four to shoot inside
Dicketts a turn shoots headed again one a day offensively
for Hunter Dickinson down twenty points, put a big fella
on Kansas Jayack radio now where he had finished with
those twenty points. Is number eight eight Kansas at home
holds off Number four Houston seventy eight to sixty five.
(01:07:04):
A home win for San Diego State against number seventeen
Utah State eighty one to sixty seven. Victories for number
nine Marquette over Georgetown ninety one to fifty seven. Also
playing on in front of us right now from Chapel Hill,
a battle of two top ten teams.
Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
What rivals they are?
Speaker 6 (01:07:20):
Number seven Duke is down by ten against number three
to North Carolina forty five to thirty five. And Armando
Baycott for UNC has twelve points and eight rebounds in
the first half and that would include three offensive rebounds.
And then lastly, we do have two different things happening
in the world of golf, including Jaukee Neeman firing at
seventy today second round of the Live Invitational down in Mayacopa, Mexico.
(01:07:45):
He has a four shot lead over one being John Rahm.
John Rahm, of course making the move over from the
PGA Tour and speaking of the PGA Tour, Wyndam Clark
is leading their event this week eight and t Pebble
Beach Pro Am seventeen under four the tournament. That's their
third round. He's got a one shot lead. Windham Clark
firing a course record today sixty at Pebble Beach. That
(01:08:08):
would include missing a couple of short putts which could
have gotten him inside sixty. With that, Let's get it
back to Ephram Salaam and that man right over there,
right over there, Steve Hartman.
Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah, well, could have shot at fifty eight today.
Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Hey, we're not gonna do that yet. I was gonna
say that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
We're talking golf, right, are we all right? Sorry about that? Uh?
Be fan great stuff. As always, Once again, we're coming
alive from the tiraq dot Com studios here Fox Football Saturday.
All the coaching vacancys have been filled, four minority hirings
amongst the eight new coaches, so I think that's certainly
a positive. How shocked were you about the Raheem Morris
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hiring in Atlanta, knowing that Belichick had interviewed twice for
that job.
Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I wasn't that shocked. I think.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
The way Belichick ended in New England, they gave a
lot of people paus. The league has changed. Like we
started this whole show off talking about you know, change
is inevitable and you need to roll with the tides.
You no longer have an eight track in your car, right.
I don't see Bill Belichick being able to change, to
(01:09:22):
be able to relate, and like he lost the locker
room in New England.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I mean that seems almost impossible to say.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
You know his argument would be why should I change?
Look at my resume.
Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Exactly, And I don't know if organizations are going to
be okay with that, especially at that price tag. So
what you don't want to do is alienate the locker
room because I mean, number one, that money is guaranteed
for coaches, and you can't run off the young talent.
(01:09:56):
Atlanta's a vibrant, young hip town. They have a DJ
at halftime, they have performances at halftime, like it's a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Energy in Atlanta. It just didn't seem like it fit.
Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I didn't understand why he was honestly interested in that job. Obviously,
the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Situation, I think he was interested in a job.
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
A job is the only interview he had. And again
he is trying to chase down Don Shula as the
winningest coach in the history of the NFL. That is
very important to him. The biggest hire was one that
right here on Fox Sports Radio, I said it was
going to happen the day that Brandon Staley and Tom
Telesco were fired. There would only be one choice, fit,
(01:10:37):
one choice, and the league was going to make sure
it happened. How many times have you seen a team
hire a coach before hiring a general manager. It is rare,
very very rare. Chargers did because the league made him
pay the price for the one guy they could hire
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that would actually move the needle mark in a city
like Los Angeles. They need this LA market to respond
to the Chargers because they are a non entity in
the city. And we know because we're here they are
a complete non entity. Even with Justin Herbert as their quarterback.
That will change with Jim Harbor. The question is how
long is it going to take people seem to forget
(01:11:21):
all these last three years? Have we forgotten the first
six years that Jim Harbo went to Michigan one Bowl
Game O and six against the.
Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Highest didn't have a quarterback though, right they have one.
Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Now, But they need so much more. They got more
million over the cat.
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
They got a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
They got to cut loose a lot of players.
Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Well, they have a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
How long is it going to take? By the way,
Jim Harbo has made a couple of statements. One he
expects to win multiple championships with the Chargers, and two
he believes his Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy will be the
first quarterback selected in this year's draft.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Well, look, I know what he's doing. JJ McCarthy got
him a national championship.
Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Only we'll lost one game at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Right, lost one game. So he's trying to help him.
Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
I mean, the Chargers are in a position to get him,
so it doesn't it doesn't doesn't matter. He's trying to
help his draft draft stop, which is what you want.
You want someone that you care about the care abouts
you to try to help you as much as they can.
Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
And that's what he's doing, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
So Harbaugh has had an incredible record everywhere he has gone.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
He's a winner.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
He knows how to take losers and make them winners.
It's a little longer than some people were comfortable with Michigan,
but Ultimately he got the job done. But as I
said on my Twitter slash x account, overcoming the Spanels
curse is going to be the greatest challenge of Jim
Harbaugh's coaching career. There's a lot to be said why
certain organizations are perennial losers, and the Chargers are in
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that list. The Jets. I mean, but we saw de
tried all right. I mean it didn't seem possible. They'd
gone through a lot of coaches and all of a sudden,
Dan Campbell shows up. Should be in the Supers.
Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Sometimes you just need the right guy.
Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
But the question is are they going to cooperate with him?
They just seem to get in there a way.
Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
With the money that they're going to pay him, they
have no choice. And that's the great part. Yes, we
know how frugal they are as a family.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
He's making I'll put it this way, probably double what
Mike McCoy, Anthony Lynn, and Brandon Staley may combined.
Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
So what I'm saying is you have no choice but
to be patient.
Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
They have to be patient.
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Is it? They're not gonna eat the salary?
Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Okay, So you're a member of the Southern California community, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
One thing that Jim Harbaugh understands about this market, and
he said it in his press conference. It's not winning
a championship. To register in this market. You would need
to win multiple championships.
Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Yeah, you gotta get people used to come into like
that's why the Lakers are the Lakers, right, it became
a thing. Yes, right, the Clippers can win all these
regular season like I didn't. I don't care about the Clippers, man,
come on, yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Even if the Clippers win a championship, but it's not
going to change anything. You have to win a lot
consent year after year after year. If the Chargers can
get on a roll like the Chiefs are on right
now or the Patriots are, well, you, he'll change everything.
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I'm anxious to see how he's going to get it done.
Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I'm excited, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
On the other side, we're gonna have some predictions on
this show about a game that's still eight days away.
This is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Harman, Ephraim Salaam. This
is Fox Football Saturday. We're coming live from the Tairaq
dot Com studios. Want to thank the crew today, befin
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doing a tremendous job doing those updates. He had a
lot of golf today, a lot of golf, more golf
than Ephraim was comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yeah, I don't want to just push through that, guys,
just push past it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Patrick who was leaving the studio even before I could
thank him, or he's back, brilliant young producer here making
his mark.
Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Just sprinted back. Appreciate you today, man.
Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Of course. Of course are you getting more appreciation around
this building with your association with this show?
Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah, you guys are the bright stars.
Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Well, I just you know, I like to say that
at least somewhere on Earth I can be a bright star.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
And of course the glue to this show is Lorena. Lorena.
Just make sure everything just moves smoothly.
Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Here, Lorena. Let the people hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yola, what's up there?
Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
You go?
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Lorena? Especially today we're in a building that has no power, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
No lights on.
Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I'm not going to tell you how many bags of
the chips I've eaten so far. So they brought in
these chips. It was a box of donuts as well.
That was donuts two, did you well? Nothing no better
combo than chips. And donuts in the dark, in the
in the dark. Great job by everybody today. All right,
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So this is a great job by you. Thank you, Okay.
I hope that my Hall of Fame predictions come closer.
I've never I've never spotify five because if you're spot
on yeah, and my guy Andre Johnson gets in, I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I told you why.
Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
I think that he separates himself from Reggie the man.
This dude, I was telling you doing the break. Every
day he showed up and went to work, worked harder
than everybody else, and then went home. He didn't complain,
he didn't cry, he didn't do any of that. He
just worked. And it was evident on.
Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
The field again, David Carr, Matt Shop, no Peyton Manning,
no kurb Warner.
Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
The reason he should really get it is because he
beat the living crap out of Courtland Finnigin on the
field one day.
Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Just that alone should put him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
All right, Well, we'll see again. That'll be coming up
on Thursday with the NFL Honors Show. The Hall of
Fame class of twenty twenty four. Excited about that, all right.
So we've talked plenty about this matchup between the Chiefs
and the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Uh, honestly, thanks to John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell. That's
why we have this matchup. I'm I'm sorry, job, guys.
A bad game plan by John Harbaugh inexplicably against the Chiefs,
and some very questionable decisions by Dan Campbell. When you
have a two touchdown lead on the.
Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Road, people just don't want it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
So we end up really getting I think the best matchup.
The Kyle Shanahan factor. So these teams faced each other
four years ago in the Super Bowl and the forty
nine Ers were leading this game going into the fourth quarter,
and we all remember that that deep ball by Jimmy Garoppolos.
Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
I just missed it wide open. Guess who's not going
to miss that?
Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
That was the moment that Kyle Shanahan we need job.
Letn't say we need a different quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
And guess who's not going to miss that throw?
Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
So this is this is where it gets tricky. I
assume this game is going to be a close game.
I don't see a shootout because these are two of
the better defenses out there. So I don't see what
we saw last year with the Chiefs and the Eagles.
I don't see what thirty eight to thirty five something
like that. I don't see that. Every time I say that,
(01:18:18):
I'm wrong, But anyway, I'm going to say it again.
So this is going to be more of the twenty
four to twenty one type game, and so it's going
to come up to one of these two quarterbacks to
engineer the winning drive. Now, conventional wisdom says, then there
should be no doubt in the outcome of this game
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that would belong to Patrick Mahomes. That we've seen the
guy on the other side, Rock Perty. He's pretty good
do it the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It's pretty good. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
A lot of times when I super Bowls are done,
and most of these Super Bowls I've covered, you know,
and talked to the players leading up to the game,
I get a certain sense of what the destiny calls
for the outcome of this game. Now, again, my gut
feeling is I would never get bet against Patrick Mahomes.
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But if Brock Purty leads the forty nine Ers to
the Super Bowl championship, that is the best possible outcome
for the league. Mister irrelevant goodness in a two year
span is a Super Bowl champion that serves the league
(01:19:36):
better than Mahomes winning a third Super Bowl. So I
am saying right now, twenty four twenty one forty nine
Ers beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I have it. Thirty one twenty seven forty nine Ers.
Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
You're taking the Niners as well.
Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I'm taking the Niners because I like the story as
a former seventh round draft pick who played in the
Super Bowl his rookie year.
Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Yes, started every game.
Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Started every game. It's only four of us alive that's
done that. I want him to finish this story. I
want all the naysayers talking about what he doesn't have
and what he doesn't do to realize being the players
more than that, and I think this young man has
(01:20:30):
earned it, and I want to see him really cash
in because now I mean, he's making nine hundred grand,
eight hundred grand.
Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Here's the ultimate outcome, the big smiling face of Rock
Party and Taylor Swift weeping on the sidelines. This is
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We are eight days away from the Super Bowl, the
matchup between the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs. It's
an outstanding matchup, no question about that. How we got
there That's going to be part of our discussion on
today's edition of Fox Football Saturday. Ephraim, I'm gonna start
the show today with something that I've been thinking about
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since the Conference Championship games last week. So over the
course of my career, the course of my life, I
hear a lot of this here, a lot of a
lot of groundcovered right, and more and more I hear this.
You need to change with the times. You need to
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get on board. Nothing is like it was. Change is inevitable.
Get with the times. So I'm thinking about this and
I'm looking back years ago and I remember I was
the co host of the first ever midday sports talk
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radio show on the West Coast ever down at six
ninety and nineteen ninety, a show that went from noon
to four. There had never been a midday sports radio
show on the West Coast. In fact, the only midday
sports radio show anywhere in the country had started the
year before with Mike and the Mad Dog. So they decided,
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if they can do it in New York, we're going
to try it here. And I'm thinking to myself, who
the hell's listening. Daytime radio at that point, this is
in nineteen ninety was geared to women because women were home.
You had like radio psychologists. Those are really big, like
lady radio psychologists, and they would take calls and talk
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to women that had problems and everything else. And I
was thinking to myself, all right, so you're asking me
to do a show in the middle of the day
and all the guys are at work, And this is
the assumption I'm making at the time, like who's listening?
And what we found out real early was, well, they're
guys that were working, a lot of guys on the road.
They were listening on the road, and it didn't take
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long for the show to catch fire, Like, Wow, what
took so long for someone to get the idea that
instead of afternoon drive, how about a sports radio show
during the day. There's an audience for it. So I
understand from my own experience that change can be a
good thing. And I've been I've been harped upon over
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and over again about analytics in sports, and I want
to take a step back. I'm not going to have
some kind of blanket statement that say all analytics are bad.
But I also think this, if you're going solely on
analytics in terms of making a coaching decision, a managing decision,
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based purely on the numbers, then I asked this question,
why do I need you? If everything's due to analytics.
I can stand there with a piece of paper and say,
all right, the chance of this happening is forty five percent,
but if I do this, it's fifty percent. I'm going
to go with the fifty percent. Why would I need
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a coach? Why would I need a manager if you're
only going to go by analytics. So everyone's trying to
make excuses for what happened a week ago. Decisions that
were being made by coaches with the idea, well he's
being aggressive, or the analytics said this, analytics said that,
And my observation, call me in the old timer, get
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off my lawn, whatever you want to call me, is
that if you had a feel for the game, you
know what the right thing should have been done as
opposed to what was done. All Right, I want to
back off for a second, Ephim, because you're of the
next tier generation, but you're you're approaching my level at
some point many years away.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean maybe like two generations remove, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right. So my point is this is that when
I was watching the Detroit Lions and the forty nine Ers,
the Lions are up twenty four to seven and a
half time, forty nine Ers get the ball first and
your defense holds hold them to a field goal. Good deal.
Now you're driving down the field. Now you're ready for
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this percentage. So they were in a position on fourd
down for Badge Lee to attempt a forty six yard
field goal. Ironically, his percentage of making that is forty
six percent. They had a fourth and two. You know what,
their percentage on that was forty seven percent. So based
on one percent they decide to go for it on
fourth and two.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Now, that would have made the game what seventeen points?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It would have been back to seventeen Again, it badly
makes the field goal back to twenty seven to ten,
a three score game late in the third quarter, late
in the third core. Yes, So in real time when
I'm watching this, all I'm thinking is this is a
no brainer. It's not a fifty plus yarder. No, Because
even if badly were to miss the field goal, Okay,
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so then the forty nine ers get the ball, it's
no big deal. They're kicker Moody. He'd already missed the
field goal. So that's tiff for tat. But when a
team stops you on fourth down, that is an emotional
game changer, and the.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Forty nine ers it's called momentum.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Momentum, and in that moment it badly misses the field goal. Fine,
the forty nine Ers take down, they're down two touchdowns.
But by stopping the Lions on fourth down, even if
it was on a drop pass, it ignited that forty
nine Er team and in a blake of a I,
especially after Jamiro Gibbs fumbles the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Times fourteen points.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Just like that, and so this gets back to a
field for the game as opposed to just simply going
with the analytics. All right, I defer to you. I'm
going to leave. Okay, lead now.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So to that point, I hope you're not still riding
around with an eight track in your car.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay, all right?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All tracks really good. They were really good back real
to day.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Don't know where you can get it serviced or even
buy an a track these days. Hope you don't even
have a CD player in your car.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Some of my best work I can't play. Let's put
it that well, we get it.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But to the point you were making, when I was
watching that game, I watched Dan Campbell and all the vibrado,
all the things that he did to change the culture
of the Detroit Lions. And trust me, I know I
played a year there. Towards the end of my career.
I played a year in Detroit and realized I wanted
to go do something else.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Now you you joined him the year after they were
zero and six.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, yes, when Jim Schwartz came in as a coach,
good coach, great coach. He's got letting hand hold nine yards.
And so as I'm watching this Detroit story. I'm pulling
for him because I know what they mean to the city,
I know what they mean the football, and so I'm like, Wow,
they really have an opportunity to do something special here.
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And then I watched him on the UH first fourth
and UH two to go up by three scores, again,
not by one, not by two, but to push the
lead back up to three scores. And if you really
look at the numbers, statistically, at that point in time,
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a team would have a hard time scoring three times
unless something drastic happened. Right if you just took your
regular possessions, a team would have a tough time mid
to late third quarter to making up a three score difference,
since you want to use analytics. And then I watched
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him choose to go for two, I mean to go
for the first down fourth and two, and I said
to myself, Wow, this has got to be the dumbest
thing that's about to happen right now. There is no
upside case in point where they were on the field.
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Say you got the first down and you went three
more plays and you didn't you only gain four more
yards after the first down, So now it would be
fourth and six. You'd probably kick the field goal. So
what did you gain. You didn't gain anything. The chances
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of you continuing to drive the ball down the field
to score a touchdown or very very low, very low
against that caliber defense in the second half. So not
only did you misread the analytics, you didn't look at
all of them. Because if you take the three points there,
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the game shift dramatically.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
In your favor to win.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That's what you need to look at, not about the
down and distance where you are on the field. But
if you're gonna use analytics, use all of them. What
happens if we go up by seventeen with six minutes
left in the third quarter, what are our percentages to win?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's the only one that matters.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I watched him fail there, and I said, man, the
game is over right at that moment, even though San
Francisco was down fourteen points, I said, Dan Campbell just
lost the game.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
They go down, they score right.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
This thing that we talked you talked about earlier, momentum
is a real thing. It's a breathing thing. It's actually
a member of the team. That's why teams love to
play at home because they can control the momentum. It's
a dangerous thing when you're on the other side of
that momentum because you don't know how to stop it.
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And so what happened is they go down to nam score.
Now it's a one possisi game instead of three. It's one. Right,
your chances of winning drop down dramatically, analytics. You come
out first, play hand the ball off fumble in your territory.
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What happens, They go and score, They tie the game.
Your chances of winning plummet, plummet because you're on the road.
Momentum has shifted and the team that you're going against,
the home team now has every advantage. You come down,
you have an opportunity to I believe, tie the game.
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You have an opportunity to tie the game. Right, let's
prolong this game. Let's try to capture some of this
momentum back. This is late in the fourth quarter. You
decide that you're gonna go for it again on fourth down.
This is how we got here. You're down three, this
is how we got here. Let's not tie the game
and the biggest game in the history of the Detroit
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Lions as we know it history. You choose to let
your ego get in the way of what's best for
you, your team, and your city. And now they're at home,
they're gonna watch the super Bowl, like we're gonna watch
the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So you don't go for the field goal to tie it,
you miss on fourth down and the forty nine er
score to go uptown and then you get a garbage
touchdown late in the game they had no chance of
You can't do what kick. Look this, this again is
the analytics scheme. But what we're talking about is this.
And you bring up the great point about this wasn't
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like going for it fourth down at you know, inside
the ten yard line, you're still if you get three
or four yards instead of a forty six yard field goal,
now you got a forty two yard field goal. Does
that really make a difference. Doesn't make a difference at all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Nope, not at all.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So I mean, afterwards, you know, you hear Dan Campbell
defending his decision. Lion fans will back up Campbell no
matter what. It's amazing. Everyone else is looking like, what
the hell did you just do? You just blew it,
especially on the road because by the forty nine ers
stopping on fourth down, that gets the crowd back into
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it and that gets momented because up to that point,
even though it was twenty four forty nine ers that
done nothing that game the second half, they couldn't even
get in their like this game is also got it?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Oh, we have to match their points they got three weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And the fact that the Lions got the ball back
in their first possession of the same went right down
the field and it's like take the field goal, go
up seventeen and blink of an e instead of up seventeen,
it's tied points.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Pre Look, look, we saw them lose the game uh
in the regular season that changes their seeding. We saw
them go for two and then they take that away
for penalty. They back all the way up and they
went for two again from the ten yard line.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
All Right, we got a big thank you from the
forty nine ers. We also have a big thank you
for the Kansas City Chiefs. We're going a breakdown. As
disappointing as the Lion's decision was, maybe you have the
advantage of the excuse that we have a young coach
and he's ever been in that position before. I'm trying
to figure out what the excuse was for John Harbaugh
and his game plan against the Chiefs. We'll break it down.
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We're live from the tire rackt dot com studios get
it ready for the Super Bowls in Vegas this year.
It's one of the few you I will not be
hanging out at the super Bowl. Not going right, No,
not this year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well, now, I've been credentialed for twenty six Super Bowl weeks.
That's a lot of Super Bowls I've covered over the years,
a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Are you credentialed for this one?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm not, and I'm not really seeking to. I put
it this way, So my normal routine during Super Bowl
weeks was to cover the week and then get home
and usually get paid to make an appearance watching the game.
There's nothing better than that. So you get to watch
the game and get paid at the same time. Love that.
(15:37):
That's a double. So I've only actually been in attendance
at four super Bowls, and I feel like those are
four super Bowls I missed. But to me, super Bowl
is about the whole TV experience. You got the commercials,
you got the halftime show and everything else. It's not
like a regular game when you're going to the game.
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And I've sat Inigular's seats. I've said in the press box,
I feel those four super Bowls that I actually was
in attendance are games that I missed, So I'm looking
forward to this matchup, or I really am, but it's
not one that should have happened. We talked about the
Lions failure to protect a twenty four to seven a
half time lead. The Lions should have been in the
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Super Bowl, and the Ravens had every reason to be
in the super Bowl as well, except for a complete
miscalculation on a game plan against Kandas City Chiefs. Now,
last week, you were not here. Kerry Rhodse was here.
Carrie went to Louisville. He's a friend of Lamar Jackson,
so I asked him, have you spoken to Lamar this week? Yes,
and I said, my concern about Lamar Jackson in this
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matchup is that Patrick Mahomes is on the other side
of the field and that he comes in with the
mindset that I have to outplay Patrick Mahoons being the
assumed MVP this season, and that's a dangerous thing going
against a quarterback who has the postseason pedigree of a
guy like Patrick Mahomes. If Lamar Jackson stays in his lane,
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does what he does best, the Ravens should be okay
at home. So what happened. Now we talked about fourth down.
How about what happened in this game? The Chiefs go
right down the field, score boom, seven to nothing. Ravens. Well,
actually the Ravens had the ball first. They had a
three and out. Now you're down seven nothing, you have
a fourth down in your own territory, and they go
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for it. Now. John Harbaugh is one of those coaches
that was really on the edge of being that first
guy to start going in on fourth down. It worked.
Keeper goes for twenty one, handoff for fifteen. Next thing,
throw a perfect touchdown past the say Flowers, and we're
tied at seven. I'm like, we got a game, except
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for one small problem. At that point, the Ravens decided
our guy can match Mahomes throw for throw a band
in the running game, and I'm like, wait a second, here,
you're at home. You were it was never you're never
down two touchdowns in this game is a one score
game the entire way, and they completely abandoned their running game,
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even though it was clear that Lamar Jackson was not
going to throw a high percentage of against oh, the
number one rank pass defense in the NFL. You talk
about a miscalculation, isn't all Lamar Jackson, Yeah, he didn't execute.
But I'm looking at John Harbaugh, the coach of the team,
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standing on the sideline watching his offense sputter trying to
throw the football, and I'm thinking, what are you doing?
That one to me was on Harbaugh first and Lamar
Jackson's second. That was my thought.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
So coming into this game in this season, and Lamar
had a lot to prove. New offensive coordinator, more passing,
less dependency on your legs, so less called runs. Okay,
that's great, keep them healthy. He does have a tremendous arm.
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He can throw from anywhere on the field. Got the touch,
he got everything. He's a quarterback, it's an MVP. But
they came out sluggish and slow last week against Houston,
and then the second half, Lamar did what he did best.
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He had eleven carries for one hundred yards it's almost
ten yards to carry and two rushing touchdowns. It completely
threw the Houston defense off kilter because you can't guard everybody,
and so I'm like, oh, okay, they figured it out fast.
Forward to the the biggest game of his life, THEFC
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Championship game, and you look at the numbers. Lamar Jackson
threw the ball thirty seven times. It's a seven point game.
It's a seven point game. He threw the balls thirty
seven times, he ran the ball eight And even though
he only ran the ball eight, he still rushed for
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fifty four yards. That's seven yards to carry.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Think about this, thirty seven pass attempts in a one
score game. It's not like you were down two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
They ran the ball sixteen total times.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Crazy number one rushing defense offense in the league.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
So to me, what happened was and it's not only
Lamar's fault. When you have to put your ego aside
for the betterment of the team, then you gotta do
what you have to do. Yeah, you got Mark Andrews back,
that's great. What I watched Lamar do is just play
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into the hands of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's like a dream for them.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
They were petrified of Lamar just taking off because they
know that's their way to prolonged drives. The best way
to beat a quarterback the caliber of Patrick Mahomes is
to keep him standing right over there on the sideline
as you complete third and short after third and short
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after third and short.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Did you see time of possession in this game? It
was like two to one.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
So when I watched Lamar Jackson sitting in the pocket
and he's patting the bat the ball three times, oh,
I said, Oh, this is not Lamar Jackson. Lamar hits
on his back foot. He looks, looks, Pat's gone. You
can't you can't cover that as a defense. You can't
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cover that. Which you can't cover is a quarterback who
can't get out of the pocket, who's going to hold
onto the ball, and that's what they forced him to do.
He had an opportunity to take off. I was just
I was screaming at the top of my lungs. Run, run,
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you had the whole field. You're one of the best
athletes on the entire field.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Just go, just go. They'd be in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
The reason we've got the forty nine Ers versus the
Chiefs and the Super Bowl two people, Dan Campbell and
John Harbaugh. They lost games they should not have lost.
But that does give us a great matchup and we're
gonna get into that. But first let's find out what
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it's trending right now. Brian Finley is here be Fenn
another long day if you be fan. He does all
the work here at Fox Sports Radios, multitude of jobs,
including doing a little postgame UCLA brewin basketball talk tonight,
filling in for the great Tim Kats.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I expect you to be calling in, Steve as a UCLA.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I have TV work tonight, so I'm just sitting around
doing nothing. So yeah, I can call in, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Call in, and I want to hear what you have
to say about the game after the win, because the
Bruins are on the up and up.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
They've won four of the last five after losing eight
out of nine. I was talking about this or five
and five. In the conference. The Pac twelve sucks. I mean,
it's a terrible basketball conference this year. Arizona keeps losing
and they're supposedly a top twenty team.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'm looking. Can UCLA win six of the last eight,
maybe get a three seed, because they do, they have
to win the conference tournament have any chance to go
to the Big Dame.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
I think we can all agree that Arizona is extremely
overrated and they talk a big game and they don't
always deliver.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So that's the USC dead last alone in the Pac
twelve day. Can they sign the number one high school recruit.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
They did, But you know what they do. They play
soft wow, And I did say that. But teams that
win against them, and I think Andy Enfield, their coach,
would be the first to tell you this, Like teams
are out aggressiveing that's not even a word.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Take the aggressiveness to them, they sort of back down.
It's it's like the Mattador defense.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
How does he survive?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Well, he's a great recruiter and a lot of the
problems that they're having right now are injury related. So
there is that obvious, low hanging fruit of an excuse.
But they don't have their top player, Isaiah Calliger, he's
been out. They've got guys in and out, so and
that's the same thing for Oregon, who UCLA is going
to be hosting tonight at poly Pavilion. Organ's got some
injury issues as well. So you can go to that excuse,
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but you can only go for it for so long.
All right, Well, all right, we'll get to our March
matters a little bit later on. Speaking of injuries, a
Bulls superstar Lezach Levine will be out for the rest
of the season because of that right foot injury. He's
gonna have surgery on that now and he is going
to miss about four to six weeks to well. Embiid
has a displaced flap of the meniscus in his left
knee and he is considering rest rehab or the other
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option would be committing himself to surgery. The Dolphins finalize
Anthony Weaver as their defensive coordinator. Cliff Kingsbury, finalist for
the Washington Commander's offensive coordinator. Vacancy did the hula hoop
around the verbal agreement he made with the Raiders to
be their OC, and Kingsbury and Las Vegas reportedly got
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stuck in a contract dispute, and rumor is that Chip Kelly,
who has had two interviews with the Raiders in the
last few days, could be the one that Las Vegas
tabs to be their next offensive coordinator. Also, NASCAR has
decided to run their clash tonight at the La Colseum
as opposed to tomorrow in hopes of avoiding some of
(25:54):
the rain, and our sister station FS one will carry
it starting at eight eastern times in college shops. We
did see a win for number one Yukon as they
paulish off of victory against Saint John seventy seven to
sixty four.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yes he from.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Salaam, what a win for your San Diego State asclet
Yes at home eighty one to sixty seven eight triumph
on national television is number seventeen Utah State. And how
about this is a nice win, a resume boosting win
for number eight Kansas at home as they take it
to number four Houston seventy six to sixty five hundred.
Dickinson had twenty points and eight rebounds. We do know
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that the Live Golf Invitational and Maya Copa is going
on their first event of the year. Joaquin Neeman is
your leader there. And as far as the AT and
T Pebble Beach Pro Am on the PGA Tour side,
Wyndham Clark, Yeah, I had to research that name for
a second, but yeah, seventeen hunder is where he is.
He leads all by two shots. And Steven e from
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he shot a sixty today in their third round, had
a couple of missed putts by millimeters to get himself
inside sixty. That sixty is a course record at Pebble
Beach and as they flipped the microphone back over to
you eat from and Steve. I know, Steve, you shoot sixty,
but that's for nine holes.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Never, you know, the problem when you don't play a
lot of There was a time when I actually played
quite a bit of golf, and I actually learned how
to sort of play a little bit. I actually broke
ninety once on a legit course, not like a you know,
championship level. But I mean, you know, sure, but the
rare times that I ever play anymore, I can still
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hit the ball off the tee pretty well. The short game,
short game gone, you know. I mean I I outside
of a tapping, I can't make a plot.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
When I saw Tom Brady and you guys probably saw
this within the week when he duffed his driver at
Pebble Beach, the first person I thought of was you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
No, that is that would be the biggest shock to you?
Is Well, it always helps to have a few bloody
Mary's before I t off something like that at But no,
I learned how to turn, so I don't slice. You know,
there's there's always that big difference between slicing and hooking
and fading and drawing. Yeah, that's what you want to
fade and draw what are we doing, guys?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Let me tell let me tell you this one hundred
the people listening can't care less exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Thank you very much, all right, thank you so much.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I just I just yawned in the studio and I
was like, oh, snap.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
This is real, all right, we're here live from the
tirerech dot com. Stitious. I went down that path. I'm
sorry about that, all right. I want to get back
to a guy named Patrick Mahomes, so I said going
into this game against the Ravens. If he pulls off
the double winning at Buffalo at Baltimore having never had
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a road playoff game before, there are only two names
ahead of him in the history of the NFL that
I would say have a better resume at quarterback, Tom
Brady being one and Joe man Tanna be in two.
And Joan Bontana is there because of his four for
four in the Super Bowl and never even throwing a
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single interception in those four games. He's like the Michael Jordan,
you know, six and six in the NBA Finals. That's
how That's how Montana is. Nobody else. See you later,
Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, throw any name out there. Mahomes
has passed you because of his ability to come up
with the big plays in the biggest games.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So that would give him if he wins this game,
I'd to give him three super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's three super.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Bowls in six years.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Correct, Yeah. Well, he's the first quarterback ever to start
six consecutive conference championship games. The only other quarterback that
did five was Ken Stabler of the Raiders. Ironically, he
lost four of those five. He started six consecutive AFC
championship games. That's never been done before, no quarterback operating,
(29:54):
nobody has ever done that. So he is in that
rarefied air. So I want to ask you as you
watch Patrick Mahomes from your thirteen year experience playing in
the National Football League, playing with, playing against so many quarterbacks,
more than we could talk about. When you watch Patrick Mahomes,
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and I look at I too. Before last season, I
was one of those when Tyreek Hill left for Miami
and he said, that's it. You're going to find out
Without Tyreek Hilly, he won the Super Bowl and now
playing their best football when it counts, when they need
(30:34):
a play, Mahomes delivers. So when you watch him play,
he from Why what is it about Patrick Mahomes that
separates himself from all the rest?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
When you watch.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Patrick Mahomes play, you get a sense that he can
make any in every throw, or you get a sense
that he'll make the right decision, whether it's the read,
whether it's scrambling. He's not a scrambling quarter it's not
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a running quarterback. But what we've seen, especially last year
in the Super Bowl, without his legs, they don't win
that Super Bowl. And so you're at a position to
when you're watching him play, it's a masterclass. Right, you
take away the fastest receiver in the league, they go
back and they win the Super Bowl. You have a
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bevy of drops all year, I mean Kelsey dropping them.
Every single receiver has dropped them. We've seen them dip
this year offensively further than we've seen since it's you know,
he's been started there. But yet here we are in
the Super Bowl and the gauntlet that he had to
go through to get to the Super Bowl. I mean
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it was one in Buffalo, one degree on the road.
Then he has to go to Baltimore, the MVP of
the league. Okay, he makes the right plays all the time,
which is annoying if you're not a Kansas City Chiefs fan.
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So watching him play, you understand. And Brady had a
little bit of this, a lot a bit of this.
Excuse me, He's never out of it no matter what's
going on in the game, how much time is on
the clock. This is the same man with nine seconds
on the clock put his team in position to kick
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a field goal nine seconds. I've never seen that before
in my life. He has a way of doing exactly
what you need him to do. This run is really
just beginning for him, because I mean, he could be
four super Bowls in six year.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
All right, So this is where I want to jump
in for a quick moment here because I mentioned the
two guys ahead of him. Now here's something about Joe Montana.
Between his first two Super Bowl wins and his second
Super Bowl wins two wins, they had three straight one
and outs. A couple of them were ugly ugly. In fact,
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in two of those three games, the forty nine Ers
didn't score a touchdown, so they had three consecutive one
and outs and then ended up winning another back to
back Super Bowl. Tom Brady had a ten year hiatus.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
From his first three to the next three, there was
a ten year gap, so it was a shorter gap
for Montana, a longer gap for Brady to get back
to winning super Bowls. Can Mahomes avoid that and just
keep rolling?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And it I mean, obviously, if he were to win
three straight super Bowls, winning this super Bowl and then
the next, now you've done something no one's ever done.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And I'll tell you the key to that. He is
the key to that right now. Of course, health has
a lot to do it. You know, you remember Brady
lost the whole year with the knee. But here's what
Brady did better than anybody else. And we still don't
know what New England necessarily did with the money that
they saved on Brady.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Brady always from the Fox Sports Studios.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
In law, Brady always saw legacy before money.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But I think has done the same thing.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
He's playing on our market value, way on our market value.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
His market value was sixty five million dollars a year.
That's what his market value is. It'll be sixty five
million dollars a year. You know what happens if you
pay a one person that on the team.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You got that one person, all right? Now.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Case in point, if he continues to have these team
friendly deals, they'll be a You're going to have receivers
lining up to come play there, to take less to
play there. If they can keep this model going, then
he has an opportunity to win not only seven, but
more so.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
When he lost the Super Bowl to Tom Brady. Okay,
he lost the Super Bowl to Tom Brady. A lot
of people have losing a Super Bowl to brock perty
is it even possible. We're gonna break down the forty
nine ers chances of upending Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
This is Fox Football Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
So have you been watching any of the Pro Bowl games?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
No, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, there was actually a time when I was
young where the Pro Bowl Game was an opportunity for
players to sort of test their level against the best
players in the league. You didn't see players backing out
of the game unless they had a legitimate injury. You
would have maybe one or two replacements for legitimately injured players.
Now you have thirty replacements. Gardner Minshew is now a
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Pro bowler. Gardner Minshew's man, I wish I would have
played in this. I mean, you would have had ten
Pro Bowls.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I would have been amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
You would have had ten Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I played in the era with some of the greatest
offensive linemen on the planet Earth.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Offensive tackles are all in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
By the way, speaking of Hall of Fame coming up
in the next hour, you know I'm a big follower
of the Hall of Fame. I'm a little obsessed over
the top, and based on my knowledge of the voting
process I'm going to give you, I'm going to do
a prediction coming up in the next hour as as
far as the five modern candidates that are going to
make up the class of twenty twenty four, I bet
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I'll be close. But I got some ideas. I got
some ideas on that coming up in the next hour.
I'm looking forward to that rock party has more playoff
wins than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, Brock Party got a more playoff wins than a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, so he's already won three playoff games. Is a
three three playoff games in his short career. And by
the way, these two wins that he has shown this
year both come from behind wins.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, those are the intangible things that we heap on
to elite quarterbacks right when you need it the most.
Can you do something right? In that Baltimore game, they
were down by seven, Lamar Jackson, we need something from you.
We got nothing. In the Buffalo game, Josh Allen, we
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meet something from you. They got nothing. And so Rock
Party we need something. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
And I'll say this about brock Party, and I stand
by this. If brock Party, who's playing twenty six games,
won twenty one of them. If Brock Party was the
first pick in the draft last year instead of Bryce
Young and this was his resume, we would be praising him, right.
But because he was the last pick in the draft,
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we refuse to praise him. We give praise to everybody
around him and say he's average. And to me, that's
not fair.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, and I felt pray to this. You and I
have been defenders of Rock Party.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Look at his numbers.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
But then they had that lost to Baltimore. That happens,
and I was like, all right, well that wasn't that
was it happens?
Speaker 3 (38:53):
It does.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
They all have ugly games.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Tell me one great quarterback that hasn't had.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Another guniet ugly games.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
This kid has played twenty six football games. Yes, he's
won twenty five of them.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
He's been to two NFC Championship games and a Super
Bowl and a year.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Here's the one two years. Here's the one thing I know.
Brock Purty will not do that Lamar Jackson did. And
that's fall prey to the idea that I got to
outplay Patrick Mahons.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Oh no, he just gonna play his game.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
He's only he's gonna play his game with a game
he doesn't compare. Even if he doesn't complete a pass.
If they win this game, he'll get acknowledged.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
One of the great ironies of pro football history is
Joe Namas winning Super Bowl three. He did not throw
a touchdown pass in that game. In fact, if anyone,
based on the numbers, should have been the MVP of
the game was Matt Snell, the running back. He had
thirty carries one hundred and twenty one yards, and he
scored the only touchdown of the game for the Jets.
He was the MVP. They gave it to Namath because
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he was the quarterback. Now, in those days, quarterbacks called
their plays, so he doesn't have somebody. So he had
a field for the game. And he felt like one way,
because the Colts had a high powered offense, let's run clock.
We're gonna run the football we know we can and
once it was successfully continued. Don Maynard, his Hall of
Fame wide receiver who had two touchdowns in the AFL
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Championship Game, caught zero passes in that Super Bowl. He
used him as a decoy the entire game. You know,
didn't complain. Don Maynard, never the w man, never complain
Hall of Fame receiver, he all time record for receptions
at the time of his retirement, never complained that he
didn't catch a single pass in that Super Bowls crazy.
(40:40):
And I believe brock Purty is of that mindset.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Man. His kid is a gamer, all right, Who's gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Make that Hall of Fame class At twenty twenty four,
I have some ideas about that much more on the
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the NFL Honors Show, well, the giveaway all the awards.
Its gonna be interesting when Lamar Jackson is named the MVP.
And again, all these awards are voted on at the
end of the regular season. And I've been asked over
the years, because I'm a little bit of an awards freak,
well big time, whether or not how do we talk
about the Heisman? We talk about all these awards major well,
(41:48):
every single sport votes on the season awards based on
regular season and not the postseason. And then I say,
I don't have a problem with that because Ultimately, what's
more valuable being a regular season MVP or being a
Super Bowl MVP?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Super Bowl MVP all day.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Exactly same thing with being an NBA Finals MVP or
a World Series MVP or you know the Stanley c
the con smythe which is given to the best player
in the postseason. Most people would say that that's a
more prestigious honor than any regular season honors you might get, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Because when you look at it, you know, based on
that there have been some league mvpes who've never played
in a super Bowl or an NBA Finals or a
World Series.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Sure, so.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
The whole point is to win it all.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Right, Now, what they used to do with these regular
season awards voted on at the Associated Press in the
NFL is that they would announce them in the course
going to the Super Bowl. Then they created this NFL
honor show, which can be awkward because like in the
case of Lamar Jackson, He's going to stand up there
be handed the MVP award and people are going to like, well,
(43:07):
how's he the MVP after what he did last week
against the team. Again, the ward was voted on, you know,
before last day of the regular season. Also announced will
be the new Hall of Fame class. Now, this is
something from I follow like no other, and I have
people I talked to and we throw ideas out there
(43:29):
try to come up with predictions on who exactly is
going to make up the class. I'm not going to
include the old timers or the coaching Canada. I'm talking
about the five modern inductees into the Class of twenty
twenty four. So they announced fifteen finalists and five of
them will make it. Question is which five?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Which five?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
So I'm going to break this down for you right now?
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I'm ready, all right.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
So there are two first ballot finalists first year of
eligible ability Boom. Their finalists Julius Peppers and Antonio Gates.
They both go in right, yes, No, really, here's my
theory on this. I think Julius Peppers is automatically getting in.
(44:18):
But I'm going to tell you why I don't believe
Antonio Gates will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Two reasons. One, There's only been one tight end ever
to be first ballot ever, Tony Gonzalez. And as great
as Gates was, he doesn't have those kind of numbers
that Gonzalez has two You got busted for pds late
(44:41):
in his career. And by the way, did I tell
you that Shannon Sharp called my radio show after that
came out? This was unbelievable. I'm like, they like, we
got Shannon Sharp on the phone. I'm like what. And
he wanted to dismiss Antonio Gates from ever getting into
the Hall of Fame. I'm like, that's not gonna happen.
It was a bizarre call, but it was actually him
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calling in the show. But I believe the only other
tight end that will be a first ballot guy will
be Gronk, who is ineligible yet for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I think Travis Kelcey as well well.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
And Travis kelce down the road and fair or not.
And again we're talking about a guy, Antonio Gates who
has more touchdown receptions than any tight end in the
history of the game. I think they're gonna say he's
not Tony Ganzalas. So that's one guy, Julius Peppers. Okay,
all right, There's two guys that I think have been
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very close that are finally going to get in. One
of them is Devin Hester. Now, this has been the
big argument about a guy who probably will be the
worst wide receiver ever to go into the Hall of Fame.
Then he plays some defensive back as well. He couldn't
do those things, but as a kick return artist, twenty
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returned to touchdowns and that doesn't include the opening kickoff
of the Super Bowl he played.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
In brother That brother was Danger Russ Again.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Can you write the history of the game without mentioning
Devin Hister. No, No, He's the greatest return man in
the history of the game. I think hester gets in.
Another guy I think that's going to get in he's
been closed the last couple of years is Patrick Willis.
Willis is one of those guys that had a shortened
career career, but when he played Pro Bowl, All.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Pro like every year, best in the game.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
So I think those are two specialty guys, one because
of a shortened career, one because he's a return guy.
We've never had a pure return guy really get in
the Hall. I think they get in, all right. That's
three of the five. This is where it gets tricky.
So there are three wide receivers and they've all been
on this ballot several times. Tory Holt, Reggie Wayne and
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Andre Johnson. One of those guys has got to make
it this year. And I'm going to tell you why
I'm picking the one guy. You look at Tory Holt,
he had a Hall of Fame quarterback and a Hall
of Fame receiver on the other side of Isaac Bruce.
If you look at Reggie Wayne, he had a Hall
of Fame quarterback and a Hall of Fame receiver on
the other side. And Marvin Harrison, Andre Johnson, Matt Schaub,
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David Carr, David Carr, Matt Schaub.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Oh, I know I was there, Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
So based on that, because they're gonna break that. I
guarantee they're gonna break this log gym. They're gonna say
if Andre Johnson had if he was part of the
greatest Shaw on turf, or if he had Peyton Manning,
think of the number he had three years, over fifteen
hundred yards receiving.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
First receiver to ever do it, and back to back
years for three years.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
So I'm gonna say Andre Johnson is my fourth guy,
all right. I know you're a big offensive line guy,
Jari Evans, Willie Anderson. See the problem with Willie Anderson
and is what is he the fifth best offensive tackle
of his era? As great as he was, he wasn't
Walter Jones, he wasn't Orlando Pates, he wasn't Jonathan Ogden,
he wasn't Willie RoAF.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
God, those guys are so good.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
And those guys are all Hall of famers.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Man, those guys are so good.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
So I'm going to eliminate those guys. And that gets
down to two pass rushers, Jared Allen and Dwight Freeney.
Dwight Freeney, so Jared Allen's been on the ballot a
couple of extra times. But my guess is a guy
you've talked to me about over and over again, the
biggest nightmare. And I believe the committee. I know they
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all listen to the show and they've heard you many
times talk about because I've asked you, who was Dwight?
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Not even the question.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
He was a nightmare?
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Brother, it is, brother, were a nightmare. Now.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I got to know Dwight when he came back to
San Diego.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Super guy, great.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Guy, a lot of fun. But I'm gonna I'm gonna
go with freemy slide edge there. Obviously he's got the
Super Bowl with the Colts, so he checks all the boxes.
So that's that's my prediction. I'm going to predict Julius Peppers,
Devin Hester, Patrick Willis, Andre Johnson, and Dwight Freemy. I'll
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bet I get at least three of those. I hope,
so maybe four.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I hope never.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I'm never. I'm never five for five. But I know
that is my prediction right there.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
I hope it's Dre.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
I mean, Gates, Gates is tough, but I keep thinking
they're going to pass on Gates. I don't know why
it is. Well you say it, why, Well, I gave
you two reasons why. Because I don't think that they
look at him in the and they don't hold tight
ends at the same level some of the other positions
they don't. I don't. I don't think they're gonna look
at him as first but he probably will make it
next year, but not first ballot. Tell everybody why Dwight
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Freeney was a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
DWIGHTE.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Freeingy was the perfect combination of speed and power. Early
in his career, he was all speed, speed, speed speed,
Get you a field spin underneath, get you a field
spin underneath, Go inside, spin outside, Okay, I'm a basketball player.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I could take speed.
Speaker 4 (50:29):
What happens with speed is it doesn't allow you to
stay down and ground yourself.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
As an offensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
You have to be up in light on your feet
to be able to change direction with him.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I'll never forget. And I had played against d White.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
You know, five six times the speed speed speed speed speed.
We have hilatious battles out there, one on one whole game.
And I remember we were in I think I was
playing in Jacksonville and we went to Indianapolis and with
the crowd noise in him brother and I remember I
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sat out on him and he was rushing up Phield.
He took two steps and he turned and put his
helmet down. It hit me right in the chest. All
I saw was stadium lights.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
I saw Timber.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I just saw stadium lights and then the quarterback's foot
and I said, oh my god, threw me off the
whole game.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Do you talk to him, like, what was that?
Speaker 4 (51:39):
I talked to him after the game. Yeah, I said, bro,
what was that?
Speaker 3 (51:44):
He said?
Speaker 4 (51:44):
My coach had sat down with me and we watched
every game I ever played against you, and I never
got in a sack against you. And he said, you've
done everything except power. So that's all we worked on,
and it changed everything. Asked Jonathan Notnton, asked all the greats.
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His speed to power was better than anybody's in the league,
hands down. So what he did was he made you
start guessing is it speed? Is it power? And he's
too fast for you to guess. He's too fast for
you to guess, and he's he made it up. He
made it his job to make you guess wrong. That's
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how quick we remember. It's the safety at Syracuse, right,
it was a safety turned into a defensive end with
safety speed, and it just made you uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
It made you uncomfortable the whole game.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
Normally, when you're playing out there at tackle, you can
go sixty plays.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
You be uncomfortable twenty.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Being uncomfortable for sixty plays or fifty five plus plays
makes for an awfully long evening.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Well, if I'm right, can you imagine having bookend Peppers
and Freemy? How'd you like to go against that defensive friend?
Speaker 4 (53:13):
No, and I've gone against both of them.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, those are high level. I believe Peppers is an automatic,
absolute automatic. All right, that's my prediction. I don't think
I don't know if I've ever gotten five for five,
but I think my guesses are pretty good. Right now,
we'll see how close we get. We're gonna get back
to the big game, the forty nine Ers and the
Chiefs and why this is the best possible matchup for
(53:39):
this year's Super Bowl. This is Fox Football Saturday, Steve
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off the air. Thanksious to see if any of my
Hall of Fame predictions come true. See how good I
did there? All Right? So, I know a lot of
people when the Chiefs especially won, it was like ugh,
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which is basically what we used to get with the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (54:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
I've always said this about team sports individual sports. I
think all sports are better when you have a dominant team.
When you have one team or one individual dominating a
sport like Tiger Woods didn't golf, or you know Roger
Feeder and tennis, or you know a Martine or Serena Williams,
(54:48):
something like that, when you have it on the team situation.
Same thing you know back in the sixties when the
Celtics and UCLA were dominating in the basketball world as
much as we at the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
I'm not sure about they see.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
But I'm telling you it gives the sport an identity
and it gives the sports something to shoot at. So
this is going to be the fourth Chiefs Super Bowl
in the last five years. The Super Bowl that did
not have the Chiefs was the Rams and Bengals. I'm
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sorry unless you're a Rams fan or a Bengals fan.
That was a pretty forgetable Super Bowl close game. It's
embarrassing for the Rams because way more Bengal fans showed
up at SOFI Stadium the Rams fans. But that is sucke.
We remember the Super Bowls that the Patriots are in,
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especially remember those that they lost, losing to the Giants
twice and Eli Manning and then Nick Foles. Nick Foles
beat Tom Brady and he was the difference in that
game and Doug Peterson out to Bill Belichick that day.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
So to me, it's a really good thing to have
the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. And I'm not a
Chiefs fan by any stretch of the imagination. I appreciate
what they do. I'm just not rooting. Okay, So there
are now theories out there that this whole thing's been rigged.
(56:24):
These are these are the outsiders. These are people that
are on the outside and have no stake in the
NFL at all.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
There was a lot of money to be made.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Because we have a presidential election year, and the reports
are that President Biden is trying to get an endorsement
from her and that the Chiefs are destined to win,
so that she's literally going to be like on camera
after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl saying vote for
President Biden. This is how absurd this whole thing is.
(56:54):
Or the fact that Travis Kelsey is going to get
down on a knee after the game, remember the Boise
State player Ken Johnson, No, he's going to actually propose
to her national tease. These are the theories that are
being thrown out there by people that absolutely have no idea.
I will say this, I don't really care about her
(57:16):
one way or the other, but she will have zero
impact on this game. I agree, zero, whether they win,
whether they lose. Taylor Swift is not accountable one way
or the other, so we can leave her out of
the equation as far as this game is concerned. Though, again,
I'm trying to get the visuals. Sometimes you get a
(57:38):
visual on a game, and I'm trying to visualize Brock
Party consoling Travis. Excuse me, hold on, I've just been
handing the notes here. I'm just I'm trying to vision
Brock Purty consoling Patrick Mahomes after beating him in the
(58:03):
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Wouldn't be great.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
I can't get that visual in my head. I would
love to me that doesn't register. I see Mahomes being
gracious to Brock Party, saying your day will come. You
got a kid, You got a kid. Exactly. That to
me is because again when Tom Brady was seeing Mahomes
after you know, the Bucks blew out the cheese. Yeah,
(58:28):
don't worry, You'll have plenty of opportunities. This was probably
my last ehrah. That one made sense. What doesn't make
sense to me in this game. Is Brock Purty walking
over to Mahomes Saint, Gee, man, I you know you're
You're still the greatest, you know. I don't see that happening.
I don't know how you could bet against Mahomes in
this game.
Speaker 4 (58:47):
It's hard to bet against Mahomes unless you're a Niner fan.
And look, I'm pulling for Brock because I love the story.
I love mister irrelevant being also relevant. I love him
being the story. I love the guy making the least
amount of money winning the super Bowl and being the
(59:09):
super Bowl MVP. To me, as a writer in Hollywood,
that's a hell of a story. I want to see that.
I want to go to that movie. I hope his
parents give me the rights to his story.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
If Brock Purty beats Patrick Mahomes, where does his star
power go?
Speaker 4 (59:34):
What do we do with brock Purty? What are you
talking about? What do we do with Tom Brady?
Speaker 2 (59:42):
But that was a different time.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
I mean the two thousand and one season, in the
twenty twenty three season, or light years apart.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
In this day and age, brock Purty beats Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
After thoughts are after thoughts who did Tom Brady be?
You see what I'm saying. Yeah, this is how you
start your legacy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
This is how you do it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Nobody thought Tom Brady was going to be what he became.
The crazy thing. The difference between Tom Brady and Patrick
Mahomes is everyone can see it in Patrick Mahomes, No
one saw it in Tom Brady. No one sees it
in Brock Party. They're more like than Mahomes and Brady are.
(01:00:36):
That's what I've been trying to get people to understand.
Tom Brady and Brock Purdy are more like and have
more in common than Mahomes and Brady. So when people
were like, oh well this, and oh well that, or
he can't do this and he can't do that, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Remember all of that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
They were talking about Tom Brady, who ends up and
then to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. Hmm,
but we can heat praise over here. But this kid
is basically doing something no one's ever done.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Right and again, one Brady. When people talk about Tom
Brady as the goat, and the record speaks for itself.
Ten super Bowls, seven wins.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Ten, that's crazy. Ten got to start gotta start with one.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
But they say he didn't have the strongest arm. He
certainly wasn't the best athletes, wasn't Did.
Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
You see brock Party take off and use his legs
last week?
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I just go back to twenty eight to three against
the Falcons. You know what, I'll never forget about that
Super Bowl. So they're down nineteen and they kick a
field goal and I was like, what the hell is that?
So it's like, well, then it's a two score game.
I go, you're down sick. I guess technically, yeah, if
you were to get I don't know, two touchdowns and
two two boy conversion, which they did, which exactly what
(01:01:56):
they did, and then went and overtime.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Hey man, I bet Kyle Shannan will make that mistake again.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
The knock on rock Party was is that most of
his games early on were forty nine or blowouts, So
so he hadn't proven himself and yet in this well,
let me ask.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
You this, Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yeah, did they have the same team that Trey Lance
was quarterbacking?
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Did they have the same team that Jimmy Garoppolo's quarterback?
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
So what are we talking about here?
Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
This kid did knocked into the driver's seat and it
became a completely different team.
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
He is engineered to come from behind victories in this postseason.
Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
I'm going back to last postseason when he was on
that seven game run, right, seven in a row until
he got hurt in the the NFC Championship game, right,
which in my opinion, he was going to annihilate Philadelphia.
So all we've seen these kids do in twenty six
(01:02:55):
games is win twenty one of them. Okay, that to
me sounds like a hell of a start to a career.
And it's not like he's dinking and duncan look at
his numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
He can throw the ball down the field.
Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
And by the way he ran in this game, biggest
plays for him in that game.
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Again, Lamar didn't he did?
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
He did? He ever ran over one gay s that one.
He put his head down.
Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Why guess why? Because it meant something. He wants it.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
And that's how Mahomes is. Mahomes runs with purpose. That's it, man,
not just he runs for first downs.
Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Look, this is gonna be It's gonna be a great game.
Both have great top top five defenses this year, both
have prolific offensive weapons. It's just going to be a
great game.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I agree with you, and I think ultimately it was
the best possible Super Bowl matchup. I agree, the defending
Super Bowl champion Chiefs against a forty nine er team
that may have been there a year ago. He doesn't
go down with that injury getting Eagles.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
All right, let's find out what's trending right now. I
don't know if he's as excited as we are about
the Super Bowl matchup. Do you really care Beefin about
forty nine Ers versus the Chiefs. I don't really care.
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
You know. I am an NFL fan free agent. We've
talked about this, being that I'm from San Diego and
the team that used to be there.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I'm going to get you're sort of spoiling it because
I didn't get a chance to talk to him about
Harbaugh last week. So we're going to get into that
because Harbaugh has made some very bold statements.
Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
Well did you know the statement that he made as
a quarterback for then San Diego Chargers see and Ryan
Leaf that one year went one and fifteen together.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I think that was the two thousand season. Yeah, So
I was in San Diego and Harbaugh joined the team,
so he came in in ninety nine, the year after
Leaf's rookie year, they had a fill in because Leif
was hurt and he actually was like a five hundred
quarterback that year, didn't play poorly. But then the next
year they started the season with Leaf because they were
committed to him. He was then they brought in Harbor.
(01:05:01):
He lost five straight games and those are the last
five games he ever played in the NFL. One in fifteen,
and then two years later got hired as a assistant
coach with the Raiders and the rest of hisstory.
Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
Yeah, and then he went to University of San Diego
and Stanford, and yeah, absolutely, well, he's made it a
bigger deal with all of his success in college as
a coach. But when it comes to a guy going
down injury wise, you guys are mentioning that just moments ago,
Bowl superstar Zach Lavine he is going to be undergoing
season ending surgery on his right foot, so he should
be out about four to six months. Joelle Embiid, according
(01:05:34):
to reports, as that displaced flap of the meniscus in
his left knee. He's considering rest, rehab or surgery so
there are two different options there for him. As far
as the NFL is concerned. The Dolphins finalized Anthony Weaver
as their defensive coordinator. Cliff Kingsbury could be on the
top list for the Washington Commanders in regards to their
(01:05:55):
offensive coordinator vacancy. He essentially did the audible to the
Las Vegas Raiders, saying that he verbally agreed essentially to
be their OC and then pulled out, And reports are
suggesting that there was a contract dispute between Kingsbury and
Las Vegas, and rumor could be that Chip Kelly could
fill in that role as the Vegas OC now that
(01:06:16):
the opportunity is open, and considering that he also has
had two interviews with the team in the last few days.
As far as what is going on in college shoots
Number one Yukon with a big win on Fox Television
earlier today against Saint John's seventy seven to sixty four
to the final score. How about Hunter Dickinson going off
(01:06:38):
for Kansas.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Don't do the run clock, but definitely a great shot offense.
Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
SAYJ at the top, I go four to shoot inside
Dicketts a turn shoots headed again one a day offensively
for Hunter Dickinson down twenty points, put a big fella
on Kansas Jayack radio now where he had finished with
those twenty points. Is number eight eight Kansas at home
holds off Number four Houston seventy eight to sixty five.
(01:07:04):
A home win for San Diego State against number seventeen
Utah State eighty one to sixty seven. Victories for number
nine Marquette over Georgetown ninety one to fifty seven. Also
playing on in front of us right now from Chapel Hill,
a battle of two top ten teams.
Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
What rivals they are?
Speaker 6 (01:07:20):
Number seven Duke is down by ten against number three
to North Carolina forty five to thirty five. And Armando
Baycott for UNC has twelve points and eight rebounds in
the first half and that would include three offensive rebounds.
And then lastly, we do have two different things happening
in the world of golf, including Jaukee Neeman firing at
seventy today second round of the Live Invitational down in Mayacopa, Mexico.
(01:07:45):
He has a four shot lead over one being John Rahm.
John Rahm, of course making the move over from the
PGA Tour and speaking of the PGA Tour, Wyndam Clark
is leading their event this week eight and t Pebble
Beach Pro Am seventeen under four the tournament. That's their
third round. He's got a one shot lead. Windham Clark
firing a course record today sixty at Pebble Beach. That
(01:08:08):
would include missing a couple of short putts which could
have gotten him inside sixty. With that, Let's get it
back to Ephram Salaam and that man right over there,
right over there, Steve Hartman.
Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah, well, could have shot at fifty eight today.
Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Hey, we're not gonna do that yet. I was gonna
say that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
We're talking golf, right, are we all right? Sorry about that? Uh?
Be fan great stuff. As always, Once again, we're coming
alive from the tiraq dot Com studios here Fox Football Saturday.
All the coaching vacancys have been filled, four minority hirings
amongst the eight new coaches, so I think that's certainly
a positive. How shocked were you about the Raheem Morris
(01:08:47):
hiring in Atlanta, knowing that Belichick had interviewed twice for
that job.
Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I wasn't that shocked. I think.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
The way Belichick ended in New England, they gave a
lot of people paus. The league has changed. Like we
started this whole show off talking about you know, change
is inevitable and you need to roll with the tides.
You no longer have an eight track in your car, right.
I don't see Bill Belichick being able to change, to
(01:09:22):
be able to relate, and like he lost the locker
room in New England.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I mean that seems almost impossible to say.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
You know his argument would be why should I change?
Look at my resume.
Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Exactly, And I don't know if organizations are going to
be okay with that, especially at that price tag. So
what you don't want to do is alienate the locker
room because I mean, number one, that money is guaranteed
for coaches, and you can't run off the young talent.
(01:09:56):
Atlanta's a vibrant, young hip town. They have a DJ
at halftime, they have performances at halftime, like it's a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Energy in Atlanta. It just didn't seem like it fit.
Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I didn't understand why he was honestly interested in that job. Obviously,
the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Situation, I think he was interested in a job.
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
A job is the only interview he had. And again
he is trying to chase down Don Shula as the
winningest coach in the history of the NFL. That is
very important to him. The biggest hire was one that
right here on Fox Sports Radio, I said it was
going to happen the day that Brandon Staley and Tom
Telesco were fired. There would only be one choice, fit,
(01:10:37):
one choice, and the league was going to make sure
it happened. How many times have you seen a team
hire a coach before hiring a general manager. It is rare,
very very rare. Chargers did because the league made him
pay the price for the one guy they could hire
(01:11:00):
that would actually move the needle mark in a city
like Los Angeles. They need this LA market to respond
to the Chargers because they are a non entity in
the city. And we know because we're here they are
a complete non entity. Even with Justin Herbert as their quarterback.
That will change with Jim Harbor. The question is how
long is it going to take people seem to forget
(01:11:21):
all these last three years? Have we forgotten the first
six years that Jim Harbo went to Michigan one Bowl
Game O and six against the.
Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Highest didn't have a quarterback though, right they have one.
Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Now, But they need so much more. They got more
million over the cat.
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
They got a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
They got to cut loose a lot of players.
Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Well, they have a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
How long is it going to take? By the way,
Jim Harbo has made a couple of statements. One he
expects to win multiple championships with the Chargers, and two
he believes his Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy will be the
first quarterback selected in this year's draft.
Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Well, look, I know what he's doing. JJ McCarthy got
him a national championship.
Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Only we'll lost one game at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Right, lost one game. So he's trying to help him.
Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
I mean, the Chargers are in a position to get him,
so it doesn't it doesn't doesn't matter. He's trying to
help his draft draft stop, which is what you want.
You want someone that you care about the care abouts
you to try to help you as much as they can.
Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
And that's what he's doing, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
So Harbaugh has had an incredible record everywhere he has gone.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
He's a winner.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
He knows how to take losers and make them winners.
It's a little longer than some people were comfortable with Michigan,
but Ultimately he got the job done. But as I
said on my Twitter slash x account, overcoming the Spanels
curse is going to be the greatest challenge of Jim
Harbaugh's coaching career. There's a lot to be said why
certain organizations are perennial losers, and the Chargers are in
(01:12:45):
that list. The Jets. I mean, but we saw de
tried all right. I mean it didn't seem possible. They'd
gone through a lot of coaches and all of a sudden,
Dan Campbell shows up. Should be in the Supers.
Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Sometimes you just need the right guy.
Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
But the question is are they going to cooperate with him?
They just seem to get in there a way.
Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
With the money that they're going to pay him, they
have no choice. And that's the great part. Yes, we
know how frugal they are as a family.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
He's making I'll put it this way, probably double what
Mike McCoy, Anthony Lynn, and Brandon Staley may combined.
Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
So what I'm saying is you have no choice but
to be patient.
Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
They have to be patient.
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Is it? They're not gonna eat the salary?
Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Okay, So you're a member of the Southern California community, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
One thing that Jim Harbaugh understands about this market, and
he said it in his press conference. It's not winning
a championship. To register in this market. You would need
to win multiple championships.
Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Yeah, you gotta get people used to come into like
that's why the Lakers are the Lakers, right, it became
a thing. Yes, right, the Clippers can win all these
regular season like I didn't. I don't care about the Clippers, man,
come on, yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Even if the Clippers win a championship, but it's not
going to change anything. You have to win a lot
consent year after year after year. If the Chargers can
get on a roll like the Chiefs are on right
now or the Patriots are, well, you, he'll change everything.
(01:14:17):
I'm anxious to see how he's going to get it done.
Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I'm excited, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
On the other side, we're gonna have some predictions on
this show about a game that's still eight days away.
This is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Harman, Ephraim Salaam. This
is Fox Football Saturday. We're coming live from the Tairaq
dot Com studios. Want to thank the crew today, befin
(01:14:41):
doing a tremendous job doing those updates. He had a
lot of golf today, a lot of golf, more golf
than Ephraim was comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yeah, I don't want to just push through that, guys,
just push past it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Patrick who was leaving the studio even before I could
thank him, or he's back, brilliant young producer here making
his mark.
Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Just sprinted back. Appreciate you today, man.
Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Of course. Of course are you getting more appreciation around
this building with your association with this show?
Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah, you guys are the bright stars.
Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Well, I just you know, I like to say that
at least somewhere on Earth I can be a bright star.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
And of course the glue to this show is Lorena. Lorena.
Just make sure everything just moves smoothly.
Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Here, Lorena. Let the people hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yola, what's up there?
Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
You go?
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Lorena? Especially today we're in a building that has no power, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
No lights on.
Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I'm not going to tell you how many bags of
the chips I've eaten so far. So they brought in
these chips. It was a box of donuts as well.
That was donuts two, did you well? Nothing no better
combo than chips. And donuts in the dark, in the
in the dark. Great job by everybody today. All right,
(01:15:55):
So this is a great job by you. Thank you, Okay.
I hope that my Hall of Fame predictions come closer.
I've never I've never spotify five because if you're spot
on yeah, and my guy Andre Johnson gets in, I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I told you why.
Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
I think that he separates himself from Reggie the man.
This dude, I was telling you doing the break. Every
day he showed up and went to work, worked harder
than everybody else, and then went home. He didn't complain,
he didn't cry, he didn't do any of that. He
just worked. And it was evident on.
Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
The field again, David Carr, Matt Shop, no Peyton Manning,
no kurb Warner.
Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
The reason he should really get it is because he
beat the living crap out of Courtland Finnigin on the
field one day.
Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Just that alone should put him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
All right, Well, we'll see again. That'll be coming up
on Thursday with the NFL Honors Show. The Hall of
Fame class of twenty twenty four. Excited about that, all right.
So we've talked plenty about this matchup between the Chiefs
and the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Uh, honestly, thanks to John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell. That's
why we have this matchup. I'm I'm sorry, job, guys.
A bad game plan by John Harbaugh inexplicably against the Chiefs,
and some very questionable decisions by Dan Campbell. When you
have a two touchdown lead on the.
Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Road, people just don't want it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
So we end up really getting I think the best matchup.
The Kyle Shanahan factor. So these teams faced each other
four years ago in the Super Bowl and the forty
nine Ers were leading this game going into the fourth quarter,
and we all remember that that deep ball by Jimmy Garoppolos.
Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
I just missed it wide open. Guess who's not going
to miss that?
Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
That was the moment that Kyle Shanahan we need job.
Letn't say we need a different quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
And guess who's not going to miss that throw?
Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
So this is this is where it gets tricky. I
assume this game is going to be a close game.
I don't see a shootout because these are two of
the better defenses out there. So I don't see what
we saw last year with the Chiefs and the Eagles.
I don't see what thirty eight to thirty five something
like that. I don't see that. Every time I say that,
(01:18:18):
I'm wrong, But anyway, I'm going to say it again.
So this is going to be more of the twenty
four to twenty one type game, and so it's going
to come up to one of these two quarterbacks to
engineer the winning drive. Now, conventional wisdom says, then there
should be no doubt in the outcome of this game
(01:18:39):
that would belong to Patrick Mahomes. That we've seen the
guy on the other side, Rock Perty. He's pretty good
do it the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It's pretty good. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
A lot of times when I super Bowls are done,
and most of these Super Bowls I've covered, you know,
and talked to the players leading up to the game,
I get a certain sense of what the destiny calls
for the outcome of this game. Now, again, my gut
feeling is I would never get bet against Patrick Mahomes.
(01:19:13):
But if Brock Purty leads the forty nine Ers to
the Super Bowl championship, that is the best possible outcome
for the league. Mister irrelevant goodness in a two year
span is a Super Bowl champion that serves the league
(01:19:36):
better than Mahomes winning a third Super Bowl. So I
am saying right now, twenty four twenty one forty nine
Ers beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I have it. Thirty one twenty seven forty nine Ers.
Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
You're taking the Niners as well.
Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
I'm taking the Niners because I like the story as
a former seventh round draft pick who played in the
Super Bowl his rookie year.
Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Yes, started every game.
Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Started every game. It's only four of us alive that's
done that. I want him to finish this story. I
want all the naysayers talking about what he doesn't have
and what he doesn't do to realize being the players
more than that, and I think this young man has
(01:20:30):
earned it, and I want to see him really cash
in because now I mean, he's making nine hundred grand,
eight hundred grand.
Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Here's the ultimate outcome, the big smiling face of Rock
Party and Taylor Swift weeping on the sidelines. This is
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