Steve Hartman & Monse Bolanos Talk Adam Silver's Relationship With NBA Players, Russell Wilson Rumors, and More!

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we got a lot to do today.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Sometimes, again I've talked about this over my many many, many,
many many many years, Doing this February is sort of
a plus minus. The minus being that we don't really
have any marquee things happening once the Super Bowl is over.
You know, we're in a transition period in sports, are
getting ready for March Madness coming up. NBA playoffs are

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still around the corner. Obviously, we've got spring training baseball.
I mean, there's always NFL news Obviously, next up we
get focused in on the draft, free agency and everything else.
But the good thing about February is, and sometimes I like,
is that it's sort of a blank canvas where you know,
how it is in the weeks leading up to the
super Bowl, we have to talk super Bowl obviously, or

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you know, it's an opening week in a base but
I got to talk baseball, or you did to March Madness,
what else is there to talking about? So you can
sort of do a little pot poirie of topics. And
that's exactly what we're going.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
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Speaker 1 (02:22):
Now, I want to get to NBA first, let's do it.
Mark Medina or Fox Sports Rada, NBA Insider is going
to be joining us, coming up here shortly. So I'm
sure you watch the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh no, actually, Steve, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I forgot it was on, and when I realized it
was on, I decided to go work out instead of
watching the game.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
And then it turns out I miss nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You miss nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's so it turns out here here are the.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Two numbers that emerge from this game. Three hundred and
ninety seven and three. Those are the two numbers. The
three hundred and ninety seven was the combines points scored,
which was obviously not only the most of an All
Star game at any game ever that has an NBA
label on it. The three was the total number of

(03:08):
fouls called in the game.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I did not know that. I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
There were three fouls called. Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I mean, at this point, why even have the rest there?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, So Adam Silver after the game, they're presenting, you know,
Damian Lillard the MVP Award, and you could just see
the frustration on the face of Adam Silver because he
had supposedly made it clear to his All Stars that

(03:37):
we need to have a more competitive game. It doesn't
have to be like Game seven of the NBA Finals,
but it's got to resemble a game where something matters.
And I would say it took less than two minutes
to realize that was not going to happen. At one point,

(03:59):
we had a series of players literally hoisting shots from
half court.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I saw a couple of highlights.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I just it was like, I was thinking, we're actually
going to get a team to score two hundred points.
I actually scored two eleven. The game wasn't competitive, the
game wasn't compelling in any way, and there was a
commissioner fully frustrated with the players, pretty much dismissing it, saying, eh,

(04:27):
it is what it is. So Mantsie, let me ask
you this before we get into why we've gotten to
this point as far as this All Star game is concerned,
would you just ditch this game or do you think
there's a way to fix this game?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I don't think there's a way to fix it overnight.
I don't think it's going to happen next year because
clearly all of the players are on the same page.
The one thing that they've said is money, like the
n Season Tournament, which is so annoying to hear that
you are making already millions of dollars and it's the
All sorce so we know they're already making millions of dollars.

(05:06):
And they're literally telling us, pay us for this All
Star game and we'll take it more seriously. And it's
frustrating and annoying to hear. But if that's what's gonna help,
you know, then I say that we have a certain
amount of money, and once the scoring reaches certain points,
like if you if it hits fifty points, you lose
half the money. Like you start with a certain amount

(05:29):
of money that everyone is gonna split whoever wins, but
once it reaches fifty points, it's half the money. If
it reaches seventy, then you take another half away. I
feel like that's how we're going to see defense.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's an interesting play. So less is more, less is more,
so less means more money in your pocket, exactly here,
here's the problem on Sie and it all goes back
to the guy that created this mess, and his name
is Adam Silver. There is no commissioner of sports to
get some more praise than Adam Silver, right, I mean,

(06:01):
we're always ripping Goodell, We're always ripping manfred Gary Batman
gets a lot of heat there in the NHL. But
somehow Adam Silver gets this universal praise for the way
he has run the NBA.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Because it's a player's league.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, so let's go back when he inherited the job
from David Stern. I interviewed David Stern on a number
of occasions. David Stern was quite the character. Yeah, I
mean I remember when and I could you know, I
was working with the Lakers station, and so we actually

(06:38):
had Stern on quite a few times, and he was
familiar with my partner, Michael Thompson, of course played in
the NBA, was a Lakers announcer, and so we we
could sort of poke it Stern. So he had introduced
this new rule about what you were wearing for postgame
press conferences. I think Iverson had shown up like in

(06:59):
a T shirt or something, and I don't know, he
was trying to make this play that it's important to
you know, you have to wear a suit and tie,
but you know you have to look presentable. So we
get stern On and I'm asking about this decision, and
he goes, yeah, I think it's important. I said, commission,
I got a question for you. Are you drunk with power?

(07:21):
That's exactly what I said to him, And I knew
I could get away with it because he would have
an immediate spot and as a media he didn't hesitate it.
It'say like what you know. His response was, if you're saying,
am I hell bent? I'm making sure what's best for
our league. Yeah. He was not a player's commission, No,
he was. So he was a management guy that was

(07:42):
basically telling the players, this is what we need to do.
When Adam Silver became the commission of the NBA, he
had a potential revolt on his hands with the Clipper situation,
with the whole Donald Sterling racist comments and was way
over the top and everything else, and Lebron James sort
of led a coalition of players that pretty much told

(08:05):
this new commissioner, if you don't do something about it,
we're out of here. So he considered it a real threat.
He forced the sale of the Clippers. Of course, Steve
Bomber entered paying four times over market value to make
Sterling an insanely rich guy, two billion dollars for a
franchise at the time valued about a half a million dollars. Yeah,

(08:27):
he didn't care, so he walked away a very rich man.
But it also set the precedent of where we were
going in terms of Adam Silver's relationship with the players.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I'm not going to lie to you. At the time,
I did not think that. I thought Adam.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Silver handled that situation correctly. As a Clippers fan, I
thought he handled it correctly. But you're right, it was
the beginning of what we are living through right now.
And what sucks and this is is not that they're children,
but I feel like David Stern was like an authority
figure and almost like the players. Not that they feared him,
but they respected him right, and sometimes that goes with fear.

(09:08):
None of these players, I think, fear in any way
Adam Silver. And it's not that they're scared that he's
going to do something, but the authority is not there,
and you can it's evident and it gets worse and
worse every year, especially with the All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, we had a point where now you have to
have a new rule to play at least sixty five
games to be eligible for any postseason honors, which are
directly tied to huge bonuses in terms of the contracts.
You can see if you make the All NBA team,
you can get a super Max bonus and everything else.
I don't know why they allow that to happen. I

(09:42):
don't Yeah, the amount of money pouring into the players
pockets more than ever, the actual state of the game
of what we saw. You know, you can complain about
the state of the All Star Game, but it's honestly
a reflection of what we've been seeing from the NBA
all season long. Scoring is way up this year.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Why is it not just three pointers? That's not what
it is.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
It's a complete lack of defense. Yep, yep, guys going
through the motions, and part of it is because you
are now requiring your stars to play a certain amount
of games, which you know, unless something happens like with
Embiide where he's forced out, these guys are going to play.
But their attitude is fine. If you're forcing me to
be on the court for more games, then where are

(10:24):
you going to see where I'm going to preserve a
little energies on that defensive end exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And it just seems like, though, don't you think also
that the game itself has changed where I feel like
back then there were players who were just known to
play defense, and now it's like, I don't know if
we have those players anymore that just want to play
defense very far and few between, and the ones that
are like you know PJ. Tucker who is older and
can't find a place, but he was like a defense

(10:53):
known guy. It's just now it sucks because he can't
keep up with the young legs and it's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
But I feel like we don't see that anymore. Guys
that are just there to play defense.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, you had enforcers, enforcers, pullam Agon, call them whatever,
but they did the dirty work to allow the star
players to do their thing. Our tests, every team had
one of these guys. And you're right, I mean, we
don't see that anymore from the NBA. So, you know,
I saw a recent interview with Adam Silver and he
was talking about digital and you know, streaming and all

(11:24):
this kind of stuff on how the NBA is going
to be shown, And I'm thinking, man, you've got to
take care of your in house right now, because you've
lost control of your league. And this is not some
like inmates running the asylum. It has nothing to do
with that. It has to do with the players are
asserting the authority that has been anointed them by commissioner

(11:46):
who took a step back and did not want to
alienate the players. I mean, but the direction of this
league is not good right now, No, not at all.
Because you have young stars, all right, We're gonna get
much more into like as we go through a certain
phase with the NBA right now, and we're heading down
the stretch and you know, looking forward the playoffs and

(12:06):
everything else. But there's some serious questions to have to
answer to move this league forward. I mean the NFL,
I mean, did you see the cap increase? It's insanity.
How can the NBA, obviously on a much smaller scale,
I bump those numbers up? Those are rookie numbers. Yeah,

(12:27):
I mean, it's just unfreaking believable. But it's not because
that's the league that knows how to get it done.
With a commissioner that's still in charge like him or not.
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I understand you had a chance to check out that

(14:48):
Spurs Lakers game and Wemby had another historic type game
where he had at least what was it, points, rebounds, assists,
steals and blocks in the game five by five performance.
Let me, let's let's project to the future, because obviously
when Benyama came in with a lot of hype. Physically

(15:08):
he's a very unique player, he's very young, it looks
like they're handling him in the right way, and a
very bad team with the Spurs are right now, is
it reasonable to believe that Wemby at some point will
emerge as the face of the NBA.

Speaker 8 (15:27):
I think so, I mean, just so, Lea's listen to
these stat lines that Victor Wembanama had last night and
regards is twenty seven points, ten rebound, they assists, five blocks,
and five steals. The last player to have that stat
line was Hakima LaJuan in nineteen ninety. He was kind
of a good player, right, So I think no doubt
he's going to be a generational star. He's going to

(15:48):
be one of the faces of the franchise. I think
the question moving forward is how about the Spurs organization.
Can they put the right pieces around him and can
they start winning? And I thought what was really interesting
being at the game last night was when Victor Wenbayama
was relayed about his strong performance and the historical tie in,

(16:09):
he thrugged it off and said, yeah, I wish we won,
and so I think that that's really going to be
the litmus test. I think the other thing that was
telling Lebron James was talenting, just how great of a
rookie he's been. And he was asked if there's been
other high level impact rookies that remind him of him,
not necessarily in skill set, but just as far as

(16:30):
name recognition and impact, and he mentioned guys like Zion
Williamson and Kyrie Irving and Blake Griffin, even Tyreek Evans.
But what Lebron also stressed was, Hey, it's one thing
to have this kind of impact as a rookie, but
can you sustain it? And so I think from an
individual standpoint, Wemby shown with his talent, with his work ethic,

(16:52):
with his coach ability, He's going to be able to
sustain it. But now it's about can the Spurs organization
put the right place rush around of next season and
can his impact level performances actually have a significant impact
on the winning itself?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Hi, Marky, how are you happy?

Speaker 8 (17:13):
Basketball Day?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Havy basketball Day?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Speaking about sustaining the Warriors right before the All Star Break,
I thought the Warriors were getting in a groove. They've
won ten out of their last twelve. They lost to
the Clippers, but I feel that the Warriors may be
figuring it out. Now can they sustain it take this
deep into the playoffs?

Speaker 8 (17:35):
They can surely do that, but I'm very mixed on it.
On one hand, you always count out Steph Curry at
your peril. I remember talking to Rick Berry in the
Hall of Famer from the Warriors saying like he was
bullish on the Warriors, saying, you know, no top team
in the NBA is going to want to face the
Warriors in the first round because of Steph, because of

(17:55):
their championship experience. And there's also I think a lot
of tangible encouraging signs beyond steps and the championship experience.
That are haying the right direction. Draymond Green's playing the
high level. He's not getting suspensions. Gary pay in the
seconds back from injury. Chris Paul's expected to be back soon.

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But there's a lot of things that can make this fragile.
While Klay Thompson has reluctantly accepted a bench role, his
play has been inconsistent overall. The same thing with Andrew Wiggins.
You also had in the fact that it's a very
competitive Western Conference field. While I certainly wouldn't rule the
Warriors out and being able to make a run, I
don't project them as an NBA champion.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I think that.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
They're stealing at best his second round. But you know what,
in today's NBA, injuries have in other teams. The stars
can alie at the same time. So I wouldn't say
it's impossible, but I would say it's improbable that the
Warriors reached back to NBA championship success this season.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
We were talking earlier Mark about what happened at the
All Star Game, and it was obvious that Adam Silver
is very frustrated. Three hundred ninety seven point three fouls.
I mean it was a joke. It's not a game.
It's not competitive in any way, but my thought is
it's a reflection of what we're seeing around the NBA.
It's the highest scoring season in the NBA since nineteen
seventy and we were talking about why is that the case,

(19:15):
and I'm thinking, well, it's very simple. You're requiring your
star players to play at least sixty five games this year.
So their attitude is fine, we'll be on the court
for sixty five games, but we're not going to play
both ends. We're still going to get our rest during
the games. There is little, if any defense played around
the NBA as guys fire up all these three point shots.
I mean, teams seem to be void of those defensive

(19:38):
enforcers that every team seemed to have in the past.
And I could send some frustration of a commissioner who
made it clear from the day he took the job
that this was going to be He's going to be
a player's commissioner. I'm just want to get your thoughts here, Mark,
because you know, I mean, there's a lot to be
obviously positive. They've got some great young stars in this league,

(19:59):
but if you're not really presenting, you know, Max effort
On the whole on both ends of the court in
these NBA games. Do you think that could be a
potential problem, even a bigger problem is that the progresses on
the same path.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
Yeah, I think so. Now, I think the big picture
stuff you outlined, it's certainly an element of concern because
what Adam Silver said before the All Star Game is
that it's not a matter of whether it's good or
not teams are scoring high. It's a matter of if
games are competitive, and we've seen some games be competitive,
some not. Now I would slightly push back against the

(20:40):
cause and effect here as far as why there's higher
scoring games. I think the bigger forces than you know,
maybe certain players not playing as much defense, is that
the rules have change. They call more fouls. This goes
back to the early two thousands. The game itself has changed.
There's higher skilled players in today's NBA in terms of

(21:00):
being able to shoot threes and have more possessions. And
you know, even for the players and the teams that
do embrace defense, they're not allowed to be as physical
as they once were because the officials call it a
certain way. And so I'm not going to discount some
of the apathy as far as competitive, toughness or zeal
but I think it's fairness. The other things have much

(21:23):
more to do with why we're seeing such high scoring games.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Mark, We're gonna jump to my Clippers real quick. You
have them up close and personal more than I have.
Do you think that there's a real struggle when they
play younger teams like the Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder.
They have beat them, but they you know, I think
it's one and two every time they see them. Do

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you think that's going to be a real struggle down
the stretch if they were to face one of these
teams in the postseason.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
It's a fair point, Monty, to suage your concerns. I'm
not as concerned about that development because in the playoffs
the games slow down. That actually fits what the Clippers
want to be. You know, they don't want to be
just a half court team. They do want to play
with pace, but they also want to play with more
control and discipline. And I think that that fits into

(22:17):
the Clippers because of their experience, their offensive balance that
they've been able to find so well. Where with you know,
Minnesota and Oklahoma City. It's a little bit different because
they're by design trying to get up and down the court,
and I don't rule them out as great contenders, but
I would give the edge of the Clippers because of
what I just mentioned, presuming that they can finally stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right, One other thing here about what's going on
in the NBA. Still, the two biggest names in this
league are Lebron and Steath. They are still the two
biggest names in the league because of their pedigree, because
of what they've accomplished and what they still bring to
the game. Their teams right now are sitting in the
nine and ten slots in the Western Conference. Can you
see either the Lakers or Warriors? We saw the Lakers

(23:01):
make a run to the Western Conference finals before getting
blown out and four straight by Denver, But can you
see either one of these teams making a similar run
in this year's playass.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
I don't think it'll happen now. As I mentioned before,
with the Warriors, you never rule out any of those
possibilities because of their history and step. I would say
the same thing with the Lakers because of Lebron and
their experience. But I think that if you compared the two,
I would have more optimism on the Lakers going on
a longer run than the Warriors simply because Lebron James

(23:36):
Anthony Davis surprisingly have been mostly healthy this season, They've
played at the dominant level. They're expected to get some
of their key guys back soon with Jared Vanderbilt and
Cam Reddish, and while both teams have been on a
little bit of a winning streak lately, the Lakers inconsistency
seem to have more to do with the injuries and

(24:00):
the incohesive rotations, whether it's Starvenham or just the injuries itself,
where with the Warriors it was a lot of it
having to do with Clay Thompson Andrew Wiggins not playing
up to their potential and that has still bared its
fruits so far. But I think even with that, the
Lakers ceiling at best is second round similar because of

(24:21):
just how competitive the West landscape is. But again, there's
no heavy favorite or it's inevitable, and injuries can happen
any team, so you know there is a pathway for
them to overachieve.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well, I know the NBA is rooting for release one
of those teams, because again, which players draw the biggest
set of eyeballs? You know, from the casual end. Look,
the hardcore NBA fans going to watch whatever teams are
out there, but Lebron and Steph are those kind of
guys that transcend a hardcore NBA fan. It will bring eyeballs.
Mark always a pleasure man. We like this Saturday date.

(24:54):
Let's do it again next week.

Speaker 8 (24:55):
All right, looking forward to appreciate you too.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
That's Mark Medina, join us, Sarah Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider.
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
And look who's in the house right there, beef in
Brian finling.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
Deep into the bullpen to bring me in like a
bullpen catcher. I never know when we're going to see
you know.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I get excited because I always want to infringe on
your time as you're actually trying to do your job.
You never do that well I do. I mean you
tolerate it. I appreciate that. I have things I always
want to talk to you about, So you always have
things to talk about. I always because I'm talking all
day long. Do you ever? Yeah? I was gonna like,

(25:37):
how many words do you think?

Speaker 9 (25:39):
Like MONSI? How many words do you think? Steve utters
in a day? Hundreds of thousands of words?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I actually saw a study this is legit, where they
talked about how many words per day a man says
versus a woman, Okay, and it was something like two
thousand for a man and five thousand for a.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Woman, and for Steve Hartman it's ten thousand.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, exactly. I am very in touch with my female
side because I can far exceed the word amount of
just about any woman on the planet. I think, but
it's not a normal state of mind. Guys are very
understated by nature. Are you a good listener because of
all the talking you do? Terrible, terrible, which is which

(26:27):
is why a lot to say, Look if she's trying
to say something and immediately I talk right over.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Ali, he admits it.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
It's the first day. Oh no, No. I have many
times over the years work with somebody where they'll say
something and I literally repeat it word for work, like
they have a big point to make. And then I
come up and I got this thought and I literally
repeat something they just said.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
So while they're saying that, what are you doing? Are
you scrolling through your internet? Are you looking for something
to say yourself where you totally forget what the other
host is saying while you're doing whatever you're doing.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Look, this is being brutally honest, but I love this.
This is the back channels of radio. But here's my
thought process. Everything that I think about is interesting to me.
Like when I just sit alone and I'm not with
anybody else, every thought in my head has interest to me.

(27:24):
I'm not thinking about things that I don't have interest in.
So a lot of the times when I'm even conversing
with somebody, I'm more lost in my own world of like,
what's interesting to me right in this moment, and it
may not be what that person is saying, which is
really bad.

Speaker 9 (27:41):
We'll get that part of it well, MONSI. You remember
Steve was telling us the story. I think you went
all the way to Notre Dame and you hung out
in a library for eight hours a day, and I
think you slept in the library and you're writing down
stats from like Notre Dame football from nineteen thirty seven
pre World War two.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yes, that's interesting to you. Oh, I could do that forever.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That was his vacation.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
That was your vaga. I did a similar tip to Atlanta,
or I took a rare three days off to sit
in a room and look through media guys, because its
ten hours a day because as you know, Monci Steve
doesn't do well with the.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Day off, right, No, I don't. He wouldn't know what
to do with him.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
You know what he needs?

Speaker 9 (28:22):
He needs a human hamster wheel that would be perfect
for you.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Maybe we can get him like a Rubik's cue.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
Yes, and then you know, yeah, stress ball something something
to keep going.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I'll tell you what so bad.

Speaker 9 (28:37):
There's a lot of stress coming out of this wake
Forest Duke basketball game. And I say this because it
was an upset win for wake Forest here and they
end up taking it seventy four to seventy two against
number eight Duke. Let me check in on that final
score actually, because it was just updated. The final score
actually is eighty three seventy nine and favorite waite Forest

(28:59):
again and number eight Duke. But the real story here
is the court storming that happened afterwards. And Kyle Philipowski,
who is a star, had seventeen points for the Dukies
in this game. Seemingly when the throws of students rushed
onto the floor, he ran into a couple of them,
or actually they ran into him, and then he had
to be helped off the floor, was hobbling off the court,

(29:22):
and they think from video evidence and obviously we're gonna
wait to hear what John Shire, the Duchies had coach
has to say about this. But could it have been
a court storming incident where one of your best players
gets injured? That is going to open up a whole
set of new discussion points and debate about court storming
and where it is and where it's going.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, you remember how coach k was about this, Well,
he would most of his team, he would make sure
they were already gone before me. And he said, look,
and I understand like when Duke loses a game, the
other team is, you know, their fans are really excited.
But you got you got to get us off the court.
Are you allow everybody to pour on the court. I
thought it was a fair argument. Yeah, well said, I'll

(30:04):
just leave you with this.

Speaker 9 (30:05):
Guy's just a couple other college basketball games, since that's
taking center stage all right now. Number twenty South Carolina
is leading Ole Miss forty to twenty seven. They just
started the second half their number ten North Carolina and
enjoying a fifteen to six lead against Virginia. Virginia has
six points and there's about six minutes left in the
first half. Go figure there finals to mention Number two

(30:29):
Houston with an eighty two to seventy six and thrawing
win over number eleven Baylor, that coming in overtime. Number
four Arizona holding off Washington ninety one to seventy five.
Number six I was State seventy one to sixty four
winners against West Virginia.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
And lastly number.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
Twenty four Florida takes it to Jerry Stackhouse and Vanderbilt
seventy seven to sixty four. Is they get it back
to Montcy and Steve Jerry Stackhouse and the Combodours are
seven and twenty on the year, and they keep paying him,
And I think it's your number five for him for
the Commodore's good player. But coach, I'm not so sure.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, I mean it's at some point. And there's there's
always excuses, right like, uh, well we've had injuries or
a player that we thought was this player turned out
to be this kind of player. But when it comes
to coaches, you have one stat, wins and losses. That's it.
That's that's your stat. And if you lose a lot

(31:28):
more games than you would remember what you what happened
to you ing at Georgetown, Remember that that last year
they lose like twenty in a row. It's like you
were a Hall of Fame player but is just not working.
So at some point you have to turn the page. No,
it doesn't well. The hard part and why it's so
rare that a great player in any sport becomes a

(31:52):
huge success in coaching the same sport is this, And
there are exceptions every rule, but this is what it's
rare is that when you're a great player, you have
only your own perspective on the game, and that's hard
to translate to players that are not you. They're just

(32:14):
not of that level. So you could you could say,
why are you not seeing this? And the answer is
because I'm not you. The fact that you were able
to see whatever it is that made you the superstar
player cannot be translated. That's why so many times in

(32:34):
sports you got these guys that never played the game
or you know, barely made it out of college or
the minor leagues to become the great coaches because their
perspective on the game is translated to players because you
know they're they're seeing a different level of games.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I didn't even think of it like that, but it
makes perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, because it is a different perspective when you
are the superstar, right, You're.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Seeing a game like Matt Dave Johnson when he took
over as the interim coach of the Lakers, and he's
trying to translate what it was that he saw in
the court. Well, there's only a handful of people ever
saw what you saw in the court. The idea that
you knew were all other nine players on the court
were at all times that you could make passes if
you had to think about the pass, it wasn't there,

(33:19):
your your anticipation, everything else. Not everybody sees the game
that way.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Oh, so many of us see the world. Like Steve Hartman,
I was.

Speaker 9 (33:27):
Literally going to see that, Muncie, you took those words
out of my Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I was just about to say that to wrap it up.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
We're on the same page, but I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Great job is always be femial. Checking with you a
little bit later on once again, we're coming live from
the tire rack dot Com studios. All right, Mancia on
the other side, I want to get to another subject matter.
Bfen brought up fan behavior, and I want to get
into a little fan behavior and exactly where it is
we should draw the line, if any line should be

(34:01):
drawn at all. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1 (34:16):
Steve Harbin, Montsiblanos Here Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from
the Tirerack dot Com Studios SORR. We're talking about fan behavior,
storming the court, putting people in danger. That's like a
spontaneous celebration. But where where do you draw the line
in terms of fan behavior. We had an incident where

(34:38):
Kade and the Phoenix Suns are taking on the Dallas
Mavericks and the Sons were running onto the court and
as Katie ran onto the court, a woman yelled out
the B word at kd. He immediately turned to confront her.
She didn't seem all that intimidated. In fact, if anything,

(34:59):
she was almost trying to explain to him was a
term and endearment.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah no, you're crazy, and you.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Know, shake your hand and everything else, and I was
you know, the social media's reaction to Kat was like
it was a mixed bag. You know, a lot of
people thought, Wow, he's really hyper sensitive, but others are saying, no,
there's no need for that. I mean, he's just like
everyone else. He just happens to make a zillion dollars
playing a basketball game. And I don't know about you, Monts.

(35:26):
I'm anxious to hear what you have to say, but
I've always been a little torn. I hate to say
I'm riding the fence on this one. Yeah, but it's
one I really have had a hard time taking one
side over or another in terms of fan behavior, because
I do believe that the fans do have a right.

(35:47):
I know I engage in this a few times over
the years, and I'm a very loud guy, so what
I can say usually has heard. But I can also
understand from a player standpoint. I imagine if we were
sitting in this studio and there are people booing us act.
I mean, we know there are people listening out there
that boo all the time, but there are people actually

(36:08):
in studio booing us while we're trying to do a
radio show. You know, what kind of impact would that
have on the show. So I would love to hear
what you have to say about this, right, thank you.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I feel like if we did have booers here, I
would laugh. I would just laugh the whole time.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
So I'm kind of with you of this being on
the fence, Like, I don't know if I want to
implement rules, right, But I am one that would boo
a player.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I'm the one that would yell at, you.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Know, Kevin Durant, you suck if he's playing the Clippers,
even though he doesn't suck. I don't scream profanities at players,
but I'm definitely I'm one of those fans that will
yell stuff, you know, when somebody's playing the Clippers. But
I also think that if I say, like, if I
am going to call Kevin Durant that B word then
and he wants to turn around and call me that,
it's fair game, you fight fire with fire.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
So if you are going.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
To be a rude fan, and I mean, because like again,
I'll y'all at Kevin.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Drett, you suck, even though we know he doesn't suck.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
But some people do get really nasty, and I don't
think it's fair to hold the player to be the
one that has to rise above it. Why do the player?
Why do the players have to rise above it? No,
the fans shouldn't be disrespectful. But I'm all about fans.
Yell mean, it's talking smack. I'm into it.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's just like the ones that go overboard.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
If a player wants to come back and throw it
down with you, that is your problem.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Hi, I told you bet. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:36):
Do you both think that this is part of what
we've built up both in the media and from teams themselves.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
It's about defending the house.

Speaker 10 (37:43):
It's about we want to be a tough place on
the road to play in the playoffs because our crowd
is really into it. We get the meters up in
NFL all the time about making noise. We've catered for
a long time to the fans are part of the
game and make the hostile environments. And I feel like
this is kind of the knock on effect front. I'm

(38:04):
with you one hundred percent on this chrisk. I've always
looked at it that way. You want to intimidate the
opposing team. Yes, this is not your house, this is
our house.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
This is my frustration as a fan over the many years,
and what I talk about the overall camaraderie of players
that I mean, no, if I am here rooting for
you to win, I want to believe that every person
on the roster of the team I'm rooting for hates
that other team as much as I do. I don't
want to see I remember, like, you know, Magic Johnson

(38:35):
and Isaiah Thomas were you know, friends. They had sort
of like good nature, like kiss on the cheek before
a game, and I'm like, what are you doing Magic that.
If you want to do that away from the court,
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Right, it's a perception thing.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I do not want you to the Pistons are the enemy.

Speaker 10 (38:53):
Yeah, at least play it up for the court, give
us a little pro wrestling, make us at least believe
you hate each other.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Right right exactly? No, I one agree with you.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
And I got to give Katie credit because he handled
that pretty like.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
He turned around and he was like.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
What, well, they wanted to throw this woman out and
he said.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
No, and he said no, which again, good for you, KD.
But yeah, he turned around and he was like, what
say that to my face? And like you said that
quickly changed? She was like, oh no, let me shake
your hand, and then the guy she was with was like,
I host a podcast.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
What he goes, Yeah, I host a sports podcast. I
don't know where that came into the conversation.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Why I would.

Speaker 11 (39:31):
I don't know how KD kept up un unless that
guy put her up to it.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
And to get a maybe. But even with all of that,
I would have not handled it as well as Katie.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I think in that moment, well, I mean he didn't
have to turn around. He didn't.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I mean he could have just walked on to the
court and that would have been Yeah, good for.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Him for turning around. I would have turned around too.
I would have been like, what you want to say
that again to my face. I would have done that.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I fire with fire, I know that.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
But when it talk about and when we talk about violence,
like if if you run onto the field or you
run onto the court, no no, no, no, no, no
no no no. I've loved the old one, you know
where he get tackled or someone even the malice in
the Palace, which was such an embarrassment for the NBA.
And you know, I got to know meta world Peace

(40:25):
a little bit when he played for the Lakers and everything.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Is he still meta?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I think he's still met at I thought it was
the panda's friend. What happened to that, I don't know,
But I mean, you know, he's not a bad guy.
I mean it was it was he. Unfortunately he went
after the wrong guy because somebody threw something onto the court.
He was like laying down on the bench and somebody
hit him with somebody I would react who threw that?
Unfortunately went after the wrong guy. But so I don't

(40:51):
condone any of that. But but verbal, man, I've heard
some really good hecklers in my dead Like we're even
the players some times are laughing, even if it's personal,
you know, talking about your mama or your grandma or
whatever it is. There's a fine line.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Some people talk smack to me on Twitter, and sometimes
I laugh out loud because it's funny.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Fun me funny. No one laughs anymore, that's the problem.
All Right, We're gonna laugh about the quarterback situation in
the NFL. This is Fox Sports Saturday. Rather along here
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hour is dedicated to the NBA. Montee, I like to
switch gears to the National Football League? Why not? And
before we get to the quarterback situation, which is always

(41:56):
a hot topic when it comes to the NFL, what
are The big story that came out this week was
the unreal leap in the salary cap in the NFL.
So people forget they actually lowered the cap after the
COVID twenty twenty season because obviously fans are not allowed

(42:18):
to go to the games and there was a perceived
lack of revenue coming in. Whether that's true or not,
we don't know, because outside of the Green Bay Packers, see,
the Packers are publicly owned. That's why they're the only
team that we actually see the finances of how a
football team is operating. We don't get that from any
other team, you know, and you know, like when the

(42:41):
ven Redskins are being investigated, you know, suddenly they were
threatened to open up the books, and no one really
wanted to do that. But here's what we know about
the salary cap. And you know, it was interesting to
me because I was I was going down a rabbit
hole watching the kind of video that only I would watch.
And it was a documentary done about the NFL and

(43:03):
the decade of the nineteen fifties. I mean, this is
literally the stone age of the NFL. But it was
a decade that ended that allowed the NFL to suddenly
leap into the national consciousness that would lead to where
we are today. And it was a league that was
run on a budget. It wasn't super popular. Baseball was

(43:25):
the number one sport at the time. Obviously, the NBA
was very much in its infancy. College football, horse racing, boxing,
these were the biggest sports of that decade. But they
handled in it in the right way. But I also
was reminded of players that played in the fifties, you're
not making a lot of money. Almost every player in

(43:47):
that league not only had an off season job, they
had an in season job to supplement their income. And
the sport had seemingly no rules like you talk about
the Wow Wow West. I mean head hunting, like clothes lines.
Here's no penalty in those days of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Like, let's see how we get how much would you
get away with?

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I mean, one of the great quarterbacks of that decade
was Bobby Lane. He never wore a face mask. He
played from nineteen forty eight to nineteen sixty two. He
never had a bar in front of his helmet. Wow,
his whole career.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
He wore no hip pads, he wore no knee pads.
He just you know, very limited shoulder pads. These guys
were tough, and they weren't making a lot of money. Now,
I don't expect any NFL player to play like that.
That's insanity what they did back in the day. But

(44:46):
when I see these numbers and this is going to
be more money in the owner's pockets, and it's going
to be more money in the player's pockets as well,
they should get more money because if there's that kind
of being made, you're the ones putting your lives on
the line. But where's the incentive? You know, I never
worry about Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. I mean, Patrick

(45:12):
Mahomes is not the highest paid quarterback in this league.
It's not even close. He could, as Tom Brady was
never the highest paid quarterback, he could walk into that
chief's office and say, all right, let's get let's go
now with this.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, why not? I was thinking the same thing.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I mean is we're going to get into this quarterback conversation.
The distance between Mahomes and every other quarterback in this
league just one up ten fold this year. I said
it before the playoffs began. If he can navigate being
on the road for the first time in his career
and still come out on top with a very subpar
group of wide receivers, his star power goes from up

(45:48):
here to next level stratosphere. And that's exactly what happened.
So he could say I don't care what any other
quarterback is making.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Double easily, no questions asked.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Double it because every single team in the league wants
me as their quarterback. But he won't do that. But
for a lot of players in this league, and I'm looking,
it's human nature. It's human nature. Yeah, I got millions
and millions and millions of dollars pouring into my bank account.

(46:24):
I really want to put my life on the line,
knowing long term effects that could come from playing this game.
And I'm not saying it's wrong. It's just, like I said,
it's human nature to wonder what kind of commitment these
players have with as much money as they're making.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
That's a very very good question, and I wish I
knew the answer, because when I saw the increase in
the cap, I was like, WHOA, And I instantly thought, yeah,
in theory, this makes it so that teams have more
money for a full roster, but you know the stars
are now gonna demand more money, and so how does

(47:05):
this really benefit your entire roster versus the ones who
have already been benefiting benefiting to all this money.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
That's instantly what I thought.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I was like.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
And again, Patrick Mahomes doesn't seem like the guy that's
going to do that, but he can, and he's the
only one that really can demand it, because this victory
he just had is is ridiculous. It's the most meaningful
and the most heavyweight victory compared to.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
His other Super Bowls and other performances we've seen.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
No, I one hundred percent agree, yeah, now, this was
his greatest achievement. And I was always holding back on
my appraisal of Patrick Mahomes. I thought a lot of
things were in the right place, right time, obviously coming
to our team that was already a playoff team when
he came to Kansas City. And then of course I'll
blowout loss in one Super Bowl, followed by that meltdown
the second half in the AFC Championship game against the Bengals,

(47:53):
and then Tyreek Hill leaves and I'm like, all right, right,
remember you have the Well, that's the last we're gonna
hear a Mahomes. Now he's went back to Yeah, I mean,
you know, like I said in my book, now he's
passed Montana. So there's only one guy that he has
to reel in, and that's Tom Brady. But yeah, I mean,
it's it's it's difficult, And this is why it's hard

(48:18):
for teams to evaluate because I've I've talked to general
managers about this. So you get a rookie contract, and
there's a lot of incentive at that end of your
rookie contract, fourth or fifth here as you embark on
the potential to be a free agent to max out
that last year. We see it time and again, and
then all of a sudden, you take that next level

(48:38):
contract and what happened to that guy exactly? And how
difficult it is to evaluate this? Is this like the
X factor? When they draft players, we always look about
the X factor? Does he have the X factor? You know?
How good is he actually playing this game? What kind
of commitment is he going to make that is necessary

(48:59):
to play at a consistently high level in the greatest
football league in the world. How do you figure that out?
And the answer is you really.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Can't, really can't.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, but you're rolling the dice and for some guys
they cash in with those big contracts and that's it.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, you really do.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Just have to hope that your players are going to
want to give it their one hundred and ten percent
every single time, and that they're not just gonna be like,
all right, once I got the contract, I'm good, I'm
gonna take it easy.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
That's you can only hope that, but there's no way
to tell.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
There's no way to guarantee it. You can't put it
in the contract.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Are you actually playing one hundred and ten percent? Yes,
I am. You can't. You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
It's I don't know, I don't know how It seems
like this is not going to be the most positive
effect increasing the cap this much, right, it seems that way,
And then I read that it's not gonna keep increasing
at that rate come twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five. So, like,
people don't get that excited. It's not going to be
that big of a jump. This is just a jump

(50:03):
from what you just said happening with the pandemic in
the last couple of years. But I just don't see
how this really makes the teams that need I know,
like certain teams Chargers, they're probably loving this, the Ravens
probably loving this.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
But again, your stars are still going to want their money.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Here's the other part of it though, So the number
that they come up with, the cap NUMBERNY coincides with
how much money each team gets as part of an
equal distribution of the television rights. Now, this is what
separates the NFL from all the other leagues. And this
is going back to that documentary I saw from the
nineteen fifties. As the NFL turned the page on the

(50:42):
fifties to go in the sixties, they hired a young
commissioner named Pete Roselle. There was also a new league
that was forming in the American Football League that was
going to compete for talent coming out of college, and
they had some big money guys involved in that league.
Lamar Hunt, of course, the patriarch of the NAAF, whose
son Clark obviously now owns the Chiefs the NFL knew

(51:05):
that this young league had guys that had deep pockets
and they could come up with that kind of money.
So for the Green Bays of the world to compete
with the New York's and the las and the major
market teams, there had to be something that balanced the
playing field. And it was that decision made sixty five

(51:26):
years ago that was agreed upon by the Mayor of
Family in New York and the Rams in LA and
all these different big city teams that yes, we agree,
we'll have an equal share of television revenue. And that's
been in place ever since. You don't have that in
other sports, No you don't. And so in baseball you

(51:46):
have payrolls to fluctuate from three hundred million to forty million,
but not in the NFL. But here's the problem. Whereas
you might have certain ownership groups that are hell bent
on using their money somehow to win a championship, there
are others saying I can just sit on this yep.
And since they're never forced to open their books, where's

(52:10):
all that money going? Because if you're just hitting the
cap in terms of salaries that you're giving out on
the team, there's no money out of pocket.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
It's equal. You're literally handed a check and then you're
just handing that check. The television rights are literally paying
your entire payroll. That's a pretty good deal.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
I mean, is it or is it an unfair deal?
For some of those owners like you just said that
don't really care.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Well, and that's hard when you're a fan of that.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Team, that's exactly. And the fans are the ones bringing
in this money in the grants. It's the fans.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
They're watching, they're going, they're buying, they're drinking and eating
at these events. Like the fans are the ones, you know,
and so here to hear.

Speaker 12 (52:54):
That, to know that is so frustrating, right because you're like,
and this is like when I was down and say
and diego with this podres organization, right, small market team,
and then all of a sudden you get ownership there.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Peter Seidler, who says because he was he had been
a two time cancer survivor. Of course he passed away
this last fall, but he was like, I want to
win a championship, and he started spending money, Like where's
this money coming from? And it exposed the awful truth
to some owners. They all have the money, right, but

(53:31):
some just choose to. Well, we're a small market team.
We can't afford that. Oh yeah, you can't. I'm telling it.
The Padres caused nightmares for everybody because they exposed the
lie that these small market teams can't afford to pay
the big money when the fact is you can, you
just choose not to.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
And that's what's you know, frustrating.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
We're talking about the Clippers, like being part of a
team where the owner doesn't care. And it's obvious because
you see around that others evidently care. And I know
we can't do anything about that, but it's like, don't
you wish fans could just vote owners out?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
You're out? Well, I know a few organizations that would
vote them out. I mean again, when the Chargers moved
from San Diego to LA and you know the first
you know withdraw pains after all these years, I mean,
would you welcome the Chargers back and it was universal
in a heartbeat, as long as they have different ownership.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Right, and I understand that, I get it, no judgment
to those fans.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
All right, coming up on the other side, we're going
to get to the quarterback situation, which is always a
hot topic in the NFL. One team in particular seems
to be in search of a quarterback. The question is
which one is the right fit. We'll break it down.
This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, Monci Belanos here
Fox Sports Saturday, coming alive from the tairaq dot com studios.

(54:52):
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talk a little NFL in this hour, Moncie, and let's

(55:14):
get to quarterback. And as I mentioned, the problem now
for teams is this twofold when you have one quarterback
that is now leap years ahead of every other quarterback
in the league. Which now Mahomes is just like Brady

(55:36):
was back in the day. I guess the question from
an ownership standpoint is how far do we go in
terms of any kind of commitment, financially, whatever kind of
commitment we're making to get to a quarterback knowing full

(55:56):
well that it doesn't matter what quarterback you pay, whether
it's an existing quarterback in this league or of quarterback
coming out in the draft, they're not Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, but you can't think like that.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
You just have to accept that Patrick Mahomes is in
a class of his own and you can't compare to him.
You can't say, well, he's never gonna be like Patrick. Yes,
just forget that, because if you go in with that mentality,
then you're right, you're not even gonna try. So you
have to just forget about Patrick Mahomes and think about
the other you know, thirty one teams and how you

(56:33):
can compete against them, and then worry about Mahomes one.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Two, three, or four times however time you see him
in a season. But you can't go into it thinking
like that.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
But you also, at some point, if you finally believe
he is your guy, have to make some kind of
financial commitment. Now you say, well, the cap keeps going up. Yeah,
but as the cap goes up, so do the salaries
of these quarterbacks. I mean, now realistically we're getting into
the sixty million dollar a year range.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
No, that's sounds with quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
That sounds I'm gonna throw up.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Yeah, which I've read Dak Prescott is going to be
close to maybe requesting that from the cowboy.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Let's slow down a little bit. You mean the Dak
Prescott that you know what in his pants in that
game against the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
And I think this is a perfect example of what
you're talking about, Like, what do you do? What does
Jerry Jones do with Dak Prescott? I think this is
a perfect example of that.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Well. I think with certain quarterbacks we're seeing a repeat
of itself over and over again. In other words, you
could take a look at Joe Burrow and say, we
know he's capable of getting there. The problem is can
he stay healthy, right, because now he's had a couple
of seasons that have been shortchanged due to injury. Then

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you have the likes of a Lamar Jackson or a
Dak Prescott or even to some degree guy like Josh
Allen right where You're like, are they actually capable of
pushing through and getting to where we want to be?

(58:13):
In the case of all three of those quarterbacks, they
need to push through just to get to the Super Bowl,
much less win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Yeah, and you know it's unfortunate, But it seems like
you just said Patrick Mahomes is in a class of
his own, and then there's like a next tier of
quarterbacks and I think those are the that sterei you're
talking about. And so I think, like, as an owner,
you do have to pay Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Is your franchise quarterback? Is you've put this mess?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
There's a difference between a franchise quarterback and a championship quarterback.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
H But how many championship quarterbacks are there? Really?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Okay? Well, all right, Well one championship quarterback, a guy
that actually has multiple Super Bowls on his resume and
a Super Bowl win is Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yiz.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
So the Denver Broncos went all in, yeah, all in
on Russell Wilson, and their failure the first year was
tied to an inexperienced coach, Nathaniel Hackett, who proved without
a shadow of the doubt. He's not head coaching material.
He just was a disaster from day one and it

(59:20):
proved out so at the end of the year like,
all right, how much was that on the coach and
how much was that on Russell Wilson. And my answer
to that was, I want to see Russell Wilson with
a different coach. So then you bring in a coach
that had the pedigree in Sean Payton, and after a
disastrous start, by the end of the year the Broncos
were more than respectable. Still, I ended up with a
losing record, but more than respectable. And it was a

(59:42):
better showing by Russell Wilson than when we saw the
year before.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
You saw the change, you saw progression, you saw everything
you'd want to see.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
But the Broncos saw enough to say no, you're no
our quarterback.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yeah, but yet they haven't said that totally.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Like, I know they benched him, but yet he's still
there and it seems like they want to restructure his contract.
So it's like you said that, but yet you don't
want to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Let him go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Well at the same time, though, you want to unload
him off the books, sure, which is not an easy
task because he's got a lot of guaranteed money in
that contract, which brings us to a team that obviously
is trying to evaluate their quarterback position. And again when
I talk about look bad, teams are always looking for
quarterbacks right to you know, find that cornerstone piece. But

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what if you're a team that checks all the boxes
except quarterback And one of those teams would be the
Pittsburgh Steelers. They have talent at the skill positions. Obviously,
they have a premier defense, and they have a coach
that has never had a losing season, so that, you know,
Plus it's an organization that knows how to win.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Right, There's already a culture there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
So then the question is this, are you willing to
take on a Russell Wilson type contract feeling like he's
the missing piece? And by the way, you have to
also understand your commitment to Mike Tomlin and what does
a Mike Tomlin pairing with Russell Wilson look like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
It's a lot to unfold here, right If Mike Tomlin
and the Steelers believe that Russell Wilson can actually come
in and deliver in a way that Mason Rudolph cannot
and Kenny Pick it cannot then yes, you pull the
trigger and you take that money and you pay him.
But you have to believe that he can actually do this.

(01:01:40):
Can he Does he fit into a Pittsburgh Steeler culture?
That's the question, And I, to be honest with you,
I don't know if I can picture Russell Wilson in
a Pittsburgh Steeler uniform. To be honest with you, I
feel like there's better, a better fit out there for him,
and it's not the Steelers. But if the Steelers believe it,

(01:02:03):
then yes, you pull the trigger.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Well, on the other side, I want to get a
little bit into what's facing that team and what maybe
some viable options for them. It's tough because, again, Russell
Wilson at his best, I'd be still capable playing at
that level. And I think we saw certain times last
year where the Russell Wilson we saw Seattle still had it.

(01:02:28):
But does it fit the Steelers? All right? But first
let's find out what is trending right now as beef
and time is flying along. Hair, I just didn't we
just speak to you. You can't get enough of me,
You can't get enough of me? Can you explain your
dynamic with Jonas to us, So, Jonas and I are
like step brothers the movie. Yeah, oh good.

Speaker 9 (01:02:48):
Yeah, So just paint that as a visual, okay, because
when he and I discuss stuff on the radio, you
never know where the conversation is going, but it's probably
going in a ditch.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Well it is, and you you take some mighty shots
at each other, try to really one up each other.

Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
It's all out of love, though, yeah, which is a
dynamic that maybe those from the outside wouldn't see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Well, that's what they said when Travis Kelcey bumped into
his coach during the Super Bowl, and you know, Jason
Kelsey called out his brother on their podcast about it,
but also concede to the fact that they can do
that because they love each other, which, by the way,
signed an alarm to the Taylor Swift fan saying, well,

(01:03:33):
if he only behaves like that around those that he loves, huh. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know we're comfortable.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
With that idea.

Speaker 9 (01:03:42):
No, Well, Jonas and I, like, he can call me
a scumbag and I'll think that he's saying he likes me,
and in that same conversation will go from that to
him joking about duct taping his two year old to
him while he's doing the show, and the two year
old sitting in his lap for the Jonas n show,
And it's entirety right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And you you made that proclamation. He denied it, but
I don't know where the truth is.

Speaker 9 (01:04:07):
I heard a kid screaming during the show at one point,
so I'm assuming it's his.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Does that child have any alternatives other than sitting on
his dad's lap when he's doing a radio show. When
you listen to your dad talk for two hours straight,
it would make any sane kid scream, Well, my son
still sit in my lap. And they're in their twenty
seven and twenty five just to hear their dad talk,
it must be soothing for them. No, it's not.

Speaker 9 (01:04:33):
Do they ever get a chance to talk because you
say it's a conversation, but that means that both sides
are going to have to open their mouth and say something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
There is a reason I got divorced.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Okay, Steve is like the owner, you know, like an
NFL owner.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
He's paying his kids, He gives his kids money.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
That's why I did sit on his lap, exactly on
the bank is what I think.

Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
Well, when the radio career and it's it's living well
right now. But you could always apply to be a
mall Santa during Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Steve Hartman is a mall Santa. I would love that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I would just stuff cash in the kids pocket money
talk really go with the cash every time, kids. I
love it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I'm not a little stupid presence. Yeah, Dan, I've been
the garbage eventually anyway, Yes, yeah, well look forward to that.
Good money.

Speaker 9 (01:05:26):
Yeah, money is good. Please money, money. And I know
there's a bunch of songs about money, but I'll tell
you what. The money that might be coming from a
fine directed at Wake Forest and their basketball program might
be pretty hefty considering what happened in college basketball today
where they allowed court storming to happen against number eight Duke.
The Demon Deacons won eighty three to seventy nine. Outside

(01:05:50):
of the upset hundreds of students then after the game
went on to the court, and one of the byproducts
of that was the Duke's standout Kyle Philipowski, got seemingly
injured as students were colliding into him as they were
rushing the floor. He had guys on his team helping
him walk off the floor into the tunnel, and Duke's

(01:06:14):
head coach John Shire said that it was a sprain
caused a sprain in the knee caused by the court storming.
So after the game, Shire goes on his soapbox and
he could be driving the bus or more so, he
is in controls of the end court storming bandwagon because

(01:06:34):
he said, quote, I'm more concerned about the well being
of our guys. When are we going to ban court stormings?
How many times does this need to happen?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Close? Quote Oh, I'm in again. His predecessor, the legend
coach K, said that's on many of occasions. Look, he goes,
I don't have a problem with everyone storming the court,
but let us get off the court first. Then he
can storm the court, if that makes sense. I'm surprised, honestly,
with all the noise Coach K made over the years

(01:07:04):
that there already wasn't a rule in place in the
ACC about this. How do you do that? People have security?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah, yeah, you find the school if the students don't listen.

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
Well, just a couple of days ago, LSU, their basketball
program got fined one hundred thousand dollars for when they
storm the court after beating Kentucky, and Kentucky is ranked
number seventeen in the country. And speaking of Kentucky, right now,
they are hosting number thirteen Alabama. It's sixty nine to
fifty four in the Wildcats favor. They have about fifteen
minutes or so left in the second half. Elsewhere in

(01:07:36):
college basketball, number four Arizona with a ninety one to
seventy five win against Washington I went for Number twenty
four Florida to seventy seven to sixty four against Vanderbilt
on number six Io with State taking care of West
Virginia seventy one to sixty four. The West Virginia Mountaineers
are now nine and eighteen overall. How about the overtime

(01:07:56):
win for Kevin Sampson and number to Houston eighty two
to seventy six against number eleven Baylor, a six point
win Kelvin Sampson, excuse me, eighty two to seventy six
to final there. And then one other game that is
going on right now of notable importance is number ten
North Carolina forty to twenty nine, and they are leading

(01:08:18):
Virginia about ten minutes or so to go in the
second half, Monsey and Steve as they get it back
to you. Virginia. We know that they're a low scoring team,
but to put up twenty nine points thirty minutes into
a ballgame, what is going on over there?

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
My goodness. Yeah, they need some help with that offense.
And the worst way, by the way, we're just watching
that video BeFAN again of the storming of the court.
That's completely irresponsible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Five seconds after the buzzer, like you don't have a
jury at all, You didn't have a chance to get
off the court.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I have been I attended one time a San Diego
State game against Nevada. This was years ago. Nevada was
ranked in the top ten and San Diego State won
the game, so they upset them. Obviously, it was a
full you know at Vajas out there, a lot of
Aztecs fans are ready to storm the court, and they

(01:09:13):
had security on the court. It was clear they had
security because they prevented the fans. But the student section
is always at the end of the court, so they'd
have easy access. But the Wolfpack players were off the court,
and then even then they limited how many fans were
actually allowed on the court, So you said, this is

(01:09:36):
completely irresponsible, because not only are you endangering the Duke players,
you're endangering the fans. You could have a stampede. One
person falls and they could get stampeded, So Sady would
see lawsuits up the ying Yang.

Speaker 9 (01:09:49):
Well, essentially, what you're gonna have to do, Steven montse
is then you would have all these security guys just
holding hands, because how else do you try to avoid
full The thing about it is the emotion it's coming in,
it's unbridled. How do you get those students within that
pure called self control? But do you expect college students
to have self control? Yeah, if they're told not to

(01:10:12):
do it, what it means if they've had a couple of,
you know, adult beverages, it's harder for them to cooperate.
Even more then, aren't college students allowed to drink adult
beverages at college games?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I think if.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
They're twenty one, yes, you know there's that element to
it too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Yeah, they're not gonna listen all right anyway. But I
mean that's again, it's not just a danger to the
duke players, it's a danger of the students themselves. You
have a massive people, one person falls down, they literally
get stampeded. Happens all that. We hear these horror stories
at these concerts, and you know, people multiple deaths, soccers, matches,

(01:10:54):
fans stampeded. Come on, I mean, you can't do that.
So I hope they they throw the book at Wake Forest.
You know, I don't blame the Wake Forest coach or
the players for this. Is on the school. There's just
no excuse for this.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
This also just happened with Kitlyn Clark, right, m m. Yeah,
with Iowa, this just happened. And not that she she
didn't need help getting off the court like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
We just saw the video. He looked like he was
in pain.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
He no, he was heard off. Hopefully it's not a
serious injury.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, it looked like he was probably needing the knee.
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:11:26):
Yeah, so what what Coach Schier said that it was
a knee sprain. And to Wake Forest's defense, they even
won a big game in two decades.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Yeah, that's not a good defense.

Speaker 9 (01:11:35):
No, that's not a good So they're not used to
having big games and big wins and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Send the Tim Duncans of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Oh no, that was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
That was bad. All right. Once again, we're broadcasting Life
from the tire rack dot Com studious. Uh, we're carrying
our conversation about the Steeler team, Yeah, and their their
search for a quarterback. So I can but what is
a team like the Steelers? What are they looking for
in a quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
You know, when I think of Steelers, I think of grit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I think of okay, toughness, I think of you know,
not that Russell Wilson isn't tough, but like, I don't
think grit and think Russell Wilson in the same he's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
A bit of a prima donna.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, And so it's almost like I
don't even think they need like a like a star quarterback.
They just need somebody that can get the ball to
their weapons in a consistent way.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
I believe, and this is a guy that the Steelers.
It's none of this is coming out of their mouths, no,
but I believe Justin Fields. I've got to believe whatever
team is going to get Justin Fields is going to
get a talented quarterback with a huge chip on his shoulder.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yeah, and so I'm glad you brought him up because
that's what I keep hearing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
If the Steelers get him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Man, are they gonna be good if Atlanta gets him
with Bejon, with Drake London all of that. So then
in my head, I'm like, so, why would the why
did the Bears get rid of him? If some teams
can actually thrive with him? Why are the Bears gonna
get rid of him so quickly? So I just it
just makes me wonder. But I agree Justin Field's great,
But they also then have to play the game.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Yeah, you know, the handoff from Ben Roethlisberger to Kenny
Pickt was seemingly seemless because they were the same team.
They were like a nine and eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Yeah, and Ben Roethlisberger didn't that guy play on like
a broken ankle like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Did he did?

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Ben was, yeah, a person and fight toughness some him is.
The last five years of his career, he just didn't move,
I mean, just could move anymore, and the arm began
to die on him, and they still were able to
win more games than they lost with the idea that well,
we're still trying to figure out the Kenny Pickett come on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
So Yeah, and Mason Rudolph apparently, like a lot of
the players, like Deontay Johnson, they like Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
That's because he able to get the ball to them.
I just seem like Kenny Pickett was at the mindset,
my job is to not make any mistakes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
He fell flat.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
He only threw four interceptions during the season. Well heck,
I mean, if that's all you're requiring to be your quarterback,
why are you paying anybody if you want it? And
and there are people Mike look at Mike Tomlin has
already punched his ticket to the Hall of Fame. But
if you're a Steelers fan, you're like, when is the
last time we were actually a serious Super Bowl contender?

(01:14:33):
It's been a decade. And this is a franchise that
has won six Super Bowls in their history. So yeah,
that's their bar. You can't convince me that Kenny Picket,
by not throwing interceptions, is a quarterback that's going to
take you to the promised Lamp.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Yeah, no, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Watching Canny Pickett this season, he looked flat most of
the games and it was almost like, I don't think.
I don't know if there's more you can give. I
think that is who he is, Right, is Mason Rudolph
The answer of either, But it seemed like you said,
they haven't mentioned getting Russell Wilson or Russell Wilson or

(01:15:19):
justin Fields. That hasn't been the talk of the Steelers.
The talk of the Steelers right now is we're gonna
have two quarterbacks competing for the spot, and the two
quarterbacks are Mason Rudolph Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
I know there's a lot of Steeler fans out there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
They're everywhere, they are everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
You can't be happy with this mediocrity. No, you say, wow,
we haven't had any losing seasons. Yeah, but you haven't
won eight championships.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Right in a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
That was the two thousand and eight season, the last
time the Steelers won the championship. Two thousand and eight season. Yeah. Wow,
that's a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
That was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
And what's missing? Quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Quarterback?

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
All right? Coming up on the other side, what other
teams right now seemingly are unaware that they're in need
of a quarterback change. We'll give them a real dose
of reality. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvey, Montsey
Belanos here, Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from the tiraq

(01:16:22):
dot Com studio. So someone has to say it right,
there are teams in the NFL that think they are
blessed with a franchise quarterback when reality their quarterback is
the furthest thing from being a franchise quarterback. So give
me give me a team out there, Manci that you

(01:16:43):
say needs a reality check in terms of security at
the quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
The New York Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
So I at the top of the list right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yeah, New York Giants. And you know, we were just
talking about Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
He I think he's going to stay in Minnesota, but
I feel like Kirk Cousins in the Giants uniform would
work well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
First of all, he's coming off an.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Achilles and that's a big yes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yeah, yeah, there's no more devastating injury in sports and achilles.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
But listen, maybe he's hanging out with Aaron Rodgers and
they're drinking tea.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Oh, that brings my number one choice. That would be
the Jets. If the Jets think that right now they
have a franchise quarterback in Aaron Rodgers, they're in delusionville.
I mean Aaron Rodgers last year in Green Bay was
not good. Who played better Jordan Love this year or

(01:17:47):
Aaron Rodgers the year before in Green Bay. It's not
even close.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah, No, especially the way Jordan Love ended.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Yeah, and his first game last year, Jordan Love was
good in his very first game as a starter. Then
he had a couple of bad games, and then he
ended on like a high streak.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Looks so good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
You could easily make an argument of any team that
actually changed quarterbacks from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three,
no team had a bigger upgrade than the Green Bay
Packers ridding themselves of Aaron Rodgers in favor of Jordan Love.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Yeah, and now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
On top of that, Aaron Rodgers had a blown achilles
to have to set out an entire season. You have
the same loser coach in Salah, the same hack offensive
coordinator and hack it and the reason they still have
jobs is that Aaron Rodgers feels comfortable with those two guys.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah, he's got power.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
So the idea that while the Jets now finally are
blessed with that franchise quarterback and forty year old Aaron
Rodgers is it is kind.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Of crazy right that they think that, especially because again
you just said devastating injury, his age, and we know
that their O line is and so you need somebody
to protect him if he's going to execute the ball,
as we've seen Aaron Rodgers do in his previous years
when he was younger and hadn't blown his achilles. So

(01:19:19):
you would think that like they would see that. But no,
they're going forward and onward with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
There are so many teams, right, there's so many. I'm looking.
I just look at the order of the NFL draft, right, Yeah,
So obviously the Bears will have a huge bearing on
the direction of this draftle let's assume for a second
year that they decide that Justin Fields is not the
guy and they take Caleb Williams. So we know about

(01:19:47):
Drake May, we know about Bo Nicks, we got Michael
Pennix Junior, we have Jayden Daniels, and we have JJ McCarthy. Right,
those are sort of the six quarterbacks all projected to
be put potential first round picks in the NFL. Then
you go down the list. Commanders, they need a quarterback.
Sam Hall is not the answer, and they have a

(01:20:07):
new coach, so they're going to go new quarterback. Patriots,
Amants need a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
They need a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
They need a quarterback. Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray's better than
anyone they're going to get in this draft.

Speaker 10 (01:20:20):
Yeah, agreed, very well set up for Marvin Harrison Junior,
and I'm scared of that thought with Murray, with Murray,
with Marvin Harrison, I'm a big.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Believer in Kyler Murray if they can just get their
house in order so that he can get back to
what he looked like first couple of years in the league.
Chargers have their quarterback, and then you just go down
the list, Giants, Titans, Falcons. Then the Bears have another
pick which could be part of a package deal somewhere. Jets, Vikings, Broncos, Raiders, Saints,

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all of them. Derek Carr said, as your franchise quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Shouldn't I mean it?

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Delictius goes on and on. That's the problem, though, when
you have a Patrick Maholmes, everyone wants one of those guys.
We continue to roll on. This is Fox Sports Saturday,
having more fun than honestly we should have. But that's okay,
that's the way we're gonna do it here. Once again,
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I want to thank Jonas Knox, oh, yes, who brought

(01:21:46):
pizza in for everybody this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
He sent pizza, He's sent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Yeah, he's well. As we heard earlier from Beefin, he
wants to sit at home with his child strapped to
his leg while he is doing the broadcast from the
comfort of his own home.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
He is here though Monday through Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Every single day from three am to six am, he's here,
So I get why on Saturdays, you know, he decides
to do it from home with his child. But he
did send us pizza and I am enjoying this pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Well, it is one I can't mention the name of
the place because you know, we can't do that kind
of stuff, but it is what we call as good
of authentic New York style pizza. As you're going to
get anywhere in SOCl It is just down the street. Yeah,
and it's just down the street so lovely. Yes, absolutely,
And slices are.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Giant, giant, giant.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Well, I mean that's the way pizza should be. You
want the big slice. You know that you got a
sort of fold? Oh yes or no? Now you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Is this pizza? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
So I remember when I met my wife Denise. The
first thing that to me is sort of important on
meeting somebody is how do you take on pizza? Sure,
because everybody loves pizza. Pizza is going to become a
factor now, especially when we had young kids. Pizza was

(01:23:13):
a big part of our diet. Not necessarily the healthiest,
but you know it is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
It's not terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
But I was very curious because we would order pizza,
I just say a pepperoni pizza, and immediately she would
start picking things off the pizza. Like I'm like, I'd
be watching, like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Does she eat the toppings first?

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Well? Sometimes she would actually put them back off, okay,
but I mean she would be like operating on the
slice of pizza. Now I'm sort of observing something similar
to you, where you've sort of torn off. Now, I
understand that everybody eats the crust. You know, a lot
of people just eat everything but the crust. I'm a
guy that eats a whole everything.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Mean too, If I don't eat the crust, you're supposed
to be absolutely horrendous.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
But you are dissecting this pizza.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Yes, and so I usually my my way to eating
pizza is I start normal with you know, the not
the crust the other end, and I take a few bites.
But then I go to the crust, and I start
eating the crust, and I'll finish the crust before I
finish the rest of the pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Now, you fan of like those crusts where they have
like the pretzel style crust or or they load the
crust with cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I need it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
I don't, But like if you were to give me,
you know, a stuffed crust pizza of some sort, I
would eat it. I do like a little bit of
like garlic seasoning on my crust.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
That I that I do like you know that I'm
a sucker for that? Would you like to add gard? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Yes, yes, I just paint it with that exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Oh, that I'm a sucker for I'll pay whatever you
want me to pay for that. But other than that,
you know, I like crust, but yeah, I eat. I
end up eating the crust before I end up finishing
this slice of pain.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Right, well, I'm gonna watch you dissect this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
I want this is perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
I want to I want to bring up something completely
off subject. But it was a story that caught my
eye this week, and I was trying to think about
exactly how I felt about this story, and that has
to do with the fifteen year old son of Tiger Woods,
Charlie Woods. So I heard it was a big story
that Charlie Woods, his fifteen year old son, was going

(01:25:21):
to go to a pre qualifier to then qualify for
a qualifier to actually play an actual PGA tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Yes, so the first one, there was four pre qualifier events,
twenty five of them went to the next one, which
was I think it's tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
And then out of that maybe four actually get to
play in the actual tournament. Exactly, so Charlie Woods, and
I was anxious to see how he did because I
have been following his story and here's the reality for
Charlie Woods at this point of his golf career. And
again he's fifteen. One is that he hasn't been completely

(01:26:03):
married to the game of golf. In other words, he's
like most thirteen fourteen, fifteen year olds, and that he
likes to play a lot of different sports as well.
He should at that age, but he's been focusing in
on his golf in the state of Florida, where he lives.
Amongst junior golfers in his age group, he is the

(01:26:25):
eightieth junior rank golfer in Florida. Now understand this, his
father won the us GA Junior Championship three straight years
before he then won the us Amateur Championship three straight years.
So I mean, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
It's not the same.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
It's not the same, and so it is. I feel
I don't feel bad for Charlie because the only reason
that he was even a forded an opportunity and you
have to pay a fee to pay play in this
qualify pre qualifier, But the only reason anyone would have

(01:27:09):
any interest in his game is that he is the
son of Tiger Woods. So he goes out and you know,
I think after four or five holes he was like
four over par, and then he puts up a twelve
on a par four hole, So he ends up shooting
an eighty six, which was sixteen over par. I mean,

(01:27:31):
the best round in that pre qualifier guy shot sixty five.
There were one hundred and ten golfers that turned into
card or thinking there was one hundred and twelve golfers
that turn into card, and he finished one hundred and tenth.
And so social media was a mix of, hey, let's
be fair because he's a fifteen year old, and then

(01:27:52):
there are others that's saying like, if I were this kid,
I would just choose a different path because it doesn't
matter what he does, it'll always be in comparison to
arguably the greatest golfer of all time. Now this is

(01:28:13):
and I think when I've heard interviews with Tiger about
his son, I think he's handling it the right way.
He wants to give him space. He wasn't there following
him around. If he wants to play golf, that's his choice,
and that's pretty much where Tiger stands, and as a parent,
I think that's fine. He's also trying to, though, give

(01:28:36):
him warning of what comes with celebrity, even before it's
actually earned, like he's a celebrity because obviously he's Tiger
Wood's son. I would say at the end of the round,
his reaction of the shooting in a six was, well,
that was quite a round. So he seems to have

(01:28:57):
a good humor about it. But I don't know, it's tough.
I mean, if he wants to go down this path, fine,
but inevitably it doesn't matter what he does. When you're
the son at Tiger Woods, there are people who have
expectations that a sport that has been so reliant on

(01:29:20):
one person to take any awareness of the world of
golf to that next level. Those people are desperate for
the next Tiger to come. And here's his son. That's
just brutal, and he's fifteen years old.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
It is brutal.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
It's crazy also that here we are talking about Tiger
and his son, Charlie, when there's also Lebron James and
Bronni James on the basketball end, right, both situations where
their father is the greatest you know to ever play
the sport and you can never fill the shoes of
your father.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
And the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Lebron James the face of the NBA, Tiger Woods the
face of golf. But I do think that Tiger Woods
seems to be handling it a little bit differently than
Lebron not pushing this narrative of I want to play
with my son in a major event, like he's not
doing that. So I like that I didn't know he
wasn't there. I love that he wasn't there. That is

(01:30:15):
amazing And it makes me wonder, what if Charlie Woods.
It's too late now, but what if like a couple
of years ago, he changed his last name and started
playing golf and went out there, because you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
People, that would be worse, you think, so cause people
already know who he is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
I wouldn't have known who he like. I don't I
know what he looks like now, but I wouldn't have
known what he looked like.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
I feel like if they did it early.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
But I mean, what kind of scrutiny? I mean, people
would know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
But I'm not saying lie that, but just change. It's
just people see the name.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
It's kind of what you were just saying, like the
Woods name. People see the name on a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Scoreboard and they're like, oh, he's a Woods. What if
we know it's his son? But it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
He doesn't go by Charlie Woods. He goes by something else,
and maybe the attention is not as bad because it's
just when you see woods associated with golf that you
just expect greatness.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Same thing with like Lebron.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
You know, we've had father's son. I always think of
sports of superstar athletes whose fathers were really good at
the same sport, but not to the level. In baseball,
there's two players whose fathers were legit All star players,
not Hall of famers, but legit all star players who

(01:31:29):
both became legendary players. One of them was Ken Griffy Junior,
whose father, amazingly they got to not only play together,
but as you know, actually hit back to back home runs.
Father's son and his father was a legit All star
level player, wasn't a Hall of Famer, but an All
Star player. And the other was Barry Bonds and his father,
Bobby Bons. Bobby Bonds, under different circumstances, could have been

(01:31:53):
a Hall of Fame probably, that's how good Bobby Bonds was.
But their sons were better players. Those are rare.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
They are rare. I mean Curry's father, Steph Curry's father.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Yeah, I mean Curry's father was another one was another one,
and Steph Curry is better, But you're right, Typically it
doesn't work out that way, right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Kobe Bryant stat Jellybean Bryant played in the NBA. Wasn't
an All Star, but he was. You know, he's a
decent player. But those are rare, they are.

Speaker 12 (01:32:23):
What about Vladimir Guerrero Jor and his father was a
legit Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
But again that's the problem. And he carries the same name.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
The same name.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Look at Dale Earnhardt and Dale Earnhardt Junior. Yeah, Dale
Earnhardt Junior is in the Hall of Fame, NASCAR Hall
of Fame. He never was his father, no, no, never, Yeah,
And so it's it's I mean, there's our advantages obviously
when you carry that name. Because I always thought this

(01:32:54):
about Dale Earnhardt Junior. Would he have had as much
notoriety if he was Bob Earnhardt instead of being Dale
Earnhardt Junior, especially after his father was killed? You know,
his father gets killed at Daytona and all of a sudden,
Dale Earnhardt Junior is still there. But what if he
was Bill Earnhardt.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Yeah, right, Like looking at it, it just looks it
makes you think twice when you see a name like
that and associated with greatness and in particular sport. Yeah,
that's why I'm like, if maybe he should have started
playing golf and just not been Charlie Woods.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
I just hope the best for him, that's all I
hoped for her. But yeah, I was a rough day
for him, and again I think his attitude was Wow,
that was hell of brown. Yeah, so there was a
little humor involved, but I wish him all right. Coming
up on the other side, we're going to get back
to some NFL talk. A man that breaks it down
like no other, the ultimate insider, our Fox Sports Radio
NFL insider Adam Kaplan, will join us. This is Fox

(01:33:48):
Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Montciblanos here on a beautiful Saturday.
Once again, we're coming live from the tai Iraq dot
Com studios. All right, we were definitely into a lot
of NFL talking the last hour. Now let's set the
record straight. Joining us right now, he's our Fox Sports
Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan. So, Adam, I want to

(01:34:10):
get right to it, and I'm going to give you
a very direct question. Who will be the starting quarterback
for the Pittsburgh Steelers in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 13 (01:34:21):
Well, that guy might not be on the roster. So
you want to know who it's going to be. I'm
going to say Ryan Tannehill. How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Wow, a name we didn't even talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
Think about the connection?

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Okay, So here when I look at the Steelers' job, Adam,
it's twofold, Like you could you could make an argument
like if you were to go out and make a
deal to get justin Fields, you're getting a quarterback that
certainly has the potential to be a top notch quarterback
in this league, who also, by the way, would have
a major chip on his shoulder being abandoned by the

(01:34:55):
Bears to go to the Steelers. You have a Russell Wilson.
But how would that diedynamic work with Mike Tomlin. So
let's let's start right there, because you do have a
coach who's been there a long time that has a
very you know, he has a mindset on how he
wants his quarterbacks to play. And I believe the Steeler

(01:35:16):
quarterbacks combined only through nine interceptions this year, which is great.
That may get you into the playoffs, but it's not
going to win you a championship. So when you talk
about a Ryan Tannehill. Let's get into that mindset of
a marriage between Ryan Tannehill and Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
Yeah, so a couple of things here.

Speaker 13 (01:35:36):
First of all, when Arthur Smith coached Ryan Tanneil, that
that would be the interest because.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
He's going to run.

Speaker 13 (01:35:42):
Arthur Fisk is going to run his offense which is
run based, which really would help because Mike Tomlin and ownership.
In fact, I talked to Matt CANNAA about this last summer,
their offensive coordinator. They wanted from the top it's to
start with a run game. We could disagree, agree, whatever
the case may be, doesn't matter. This is what they want.
This has been mandated. And whoever the offense coordinator is

(01:36:05):
in this case is Arthur Smith just happens to want
to be a run first guy that's coming here with
Najie Harris and Jalen Warren. So everything when meat, you're
not going to ask Ryan Tannehill to throw the ball
a lot at this stage in his mid thirties. And
then there's a course of course, justin field. Who look
he's and I'm being kind here, he's played very inconsistent football.

(01:36:28):
You see the upside. The downside is bad. The inaccuracy
is a major problem. I don't see it being a
good fit. What Justin Fields needs is he needs to
be with a quarterback developer, someone who's developed quarterbacks, who
knows how to manage them, that coaches hard. Hard coaching
is what Justin Fields needs. He means he needs more discipline.

(01:36:50):
Arthur Smith has never really developed a quarterback. He's not
He couldn't do it in Atlanta. Tannehill had already been established.
You could continued his career and that's fine. But the
bottom line is Arthur Smith, to me, does not He
just doesn't fit with just what Justin Fields needs. These Steelers,
I know they have some interest in him, as I
understand it, but they have interested in a lot of

(01:37:11):
Ventan quarterbacks. I know by the way Mason Rudolph they
want him back. Isn't interesting. Once Mason Rudolph was the
starting quarterback, they started having daftfield pass a game that
was kind of one of the interest developments when Kenny Pickett.
After Kenny pick got hurt unfortunately, but their passing game
took off downfield.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Adam, we were also talking about the Giants that you know,
I don't think Daniel Jones is the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
The Giants do have the fifth overall pick.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Do you think they take a quarterback or do you
think they're going to just kind of ride it with
Daniel Jones and see what happens.

Speaker 13 (01:37:41):
No, I don't see them doing it with a quarterback.
And it's not a guarantee.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Of course.

Speaker 13 (01:37:46):
They've got so many needs or offensive line. They've got
one blue chip player at left tackle. Everything else's disaster.
They've already missed her Ryan Neial. In fact, I feel
who wanted being a guard. Who is the right tackle?
He's played poorly the first two years. They don't have
a number one receiver. They don't have They really don't
have any playmakers on defense. They're just like two years

(01:38:07):
ago they shocked the world, made the playoffs, they overachieved.
They need help. Any pass strushers, playmakers, you name it.
They need it. Like if Marvin Harrison Junior gets there
the cart, they should turn the cart in within one second.
I don't think we'll make it there because the Cardinals
have to take them if he gets there. Cardinals, by
the way, all but a quarterback. They need everything. So
that's the thing. Look, you earn it if you're in

(01:38:28):
the top ten. You most likely deserve to be there.
You're probably not a very good football team.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
So the big story this week obviously was the new
cap numbers for the NFL going through the stratosphere. I mean,
the number is just absolutely staggering, and I was mentioning
AMONSI I went down a rabbit hole last night. I
watched this documentary on the NFL in the nineteen fifties
and Burt Bell and as the commissioner of the NFL,
the kind of job he did to try to sort

(01:38:53):
of bring the NFL into the national consciousness. And of
course the famous overtime game between the Cold and the
Giants was a major step to take the NFL to
the next level. But it also reminded me again the
impact of money, not just in the NFL obviously, but
sports in general, and trying to gauge in an individual

(01:39:15):
player the impact that money has on their game. I mean,
we could all sit here right now and know that
Patrick Mahomes, if he wanted to, could walk into Clark
Hunt and say, look, I wanted my salary to double
any other quarterback in this league. And the fact is

(01:39:38):
he's earned that. He is he has what he did
this year, in my opinion, I'm sure you share the
same opinion, took him from the stratosphere to a next
level stratus fhere if there is such a place. In fact,
right now, to me, the only quarterback in the conversation
now as the goat is Tom Brady. I now have
a past Montana. Yeah, right, So he won't do that,

(01:40:01):
and so we understand that like Tom Brady, who was
never the highest paid quarterback in the league, and obviously
Malmes is not now, they do have that mindset that
what matters to them is winning championship, and that's a
dream for any organization, doesn't matter the sport. But with
more money being poured into the player's pockets, how do

(01:40:21):
teams go about trying to figure out, especially with quarterbacks,
if it's the right move, if putting more money in
their pocket is actually going to translate into more wins.

Speaker 13 (01:40:35):
It's just it's more steve from talking to teams and agents.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
It's more of an intr of fairness.

Speaker 13 (01:40:41):
It has nothing to do really like Dak Prescott, right,
my number is fifty seven to sixty million a year.
When he gets this new deal done. They have to
do it because they can't go forward with a salary
cap number, so that they made a mistake like they
normally do, of not understanding what's happening, and Jerry Jones
waits and waits and waights than the agent can.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
It's leverage. In this case, Todd Francis agent did a
great job.

Speaker 13 (01:41:02):
And they have him over a barrel and they know
that that Dak's got to get paid. I mean, that's
just the way it is. And they got to get
a couple other deals done. Michael Parsons is a big one.
Ceedee lamb. They're gonna have to get that done. So
it's more to me, it's a more of an issue
of fairness. Now we should note last year they did
restructure his Mahomes' deal to give him more cash over

(01:41:23):
a three year period for him to be in the
top three of the highest paid quarterbacks. But you're right, honestly,
he really should be getting paid seventy million a year.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
That that would be my number for him. He should
be so much higher than any other quarterback. But he won't.
He won't do that.

Speaker 13 (01:41:40):
But to their point, by the way, the Chiefs, the
Chiefs and Mahomes a side, they they talked privately a
year ago and they said, look, this can't continue because
where the escalating quarterback numbers are going. We got to
do something here, and they did that to their credit.
But you know, in the end, see when Dak Prescott,
by the way, you talk about fairness and what's right,

(01:42:01):
no offense at Dak Prescott. He had a very good
year and you see what happened the playoffs not so good.
He's not a top five quarterback, but he's going to
be paid like one. That's the problem with it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
So the ser Francesco forty nine ers have been pretty
quiet with their defensive coordinator search.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Any development there.

Speaker 13 (01:42:19):
Yeah, the two guys that I've heard, there's Daniel Bullocks,
who's a former NFL safety who's one of the better
defensive back coaches in the league. I know two teams
have told me, had they not made the Super Bowl,
the Niners, they probably were going to interview him. But
these teams failed out their defensive coordinator job. And Daniel Sorenson,
who's another former NFL safety who's very well respected. Those

(01:42:40):
would be the in house candidates, and they're looking at
some out, they're looking at some outside. I would expect
this done with the next week. Remember, we've got the combine.
By the way, I've seen coaches get hired where they
fly to the combined interview with clubs. I've actually seen
that in front of me, but happened before. It's kind
of funny. So yeah, I expect that to happen. Boy,
Steve Welkes, that's a tough one.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
That one.

Speaker 13 (01:43:03):
I understand why it happened because I know Kyle privately
was a little critical of the way the defense was
being run, and we should know, we should mention that
the defense Welks is running was the one that he
had not run before. Yet they still made the Super
Bowl the time I forget.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
That, Yeah, and played really well in the Super Bowl. Yeah,
I mean especially, I mean come on, I mean, you
know they got a gift touchdown after the punt hit
the foot, right, I mean that was sort of a
take that away, and you know, I mean, I don't know,
I mean it seemed unbelievable to me. All right, Want
one other quick thing here as far as the evaluation

(01:43:36):
of the coaching hires. Now we've had other chance to
sort of you know, sit down, and obviously there's a
lot of head before we get ready to start of
the season. But who do you think made the most
impressive higher in terms of the new coach.

Speaker 13 (01:43:52):
I like Washington's hire if dan Quinn. They wanted Ben Johnson.
In my reporting two months ago, I said, this is
their guy. They want him. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.
As you know, at the last minute he backed out.
I mean that that floored them. This was their guy
and they didn't get them. Then dan Quinn, for whatever
reason the previous three hiring cycles, didn't get a job
when he was one of the top three candidates for

(01:44:14):
many jobs. So really good hire. Now this team is
at a total rebuild. They don't have their quarterback on
the roster. The future quarterback Sam how is a good story.
He's a high high end back of low and starter.
They're going to look to to get their quarterback in
this draft. They're another team. Like if we had time here,
I mean, if we went through the rosters of the
of the like the top seven picks, go Wow, these

(01:44:37):
teams are really bad. Yes, that's why they're there. Washington,
another team has a really bad roster and they're in
a rebuild. Here, let's call it like it is.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Yeah, I mean, it's we got so much coming up here,
all right, Well, Adam, in the weeks they had, obviously
we're going to break it down. We got free agency,
we got the draft, we got all one hundred thousand
things to talk to you about, and we always appreciate
the time. Thanks for joining us, Adam.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
That is Adam Kaplan our NFL inside right here at
Fox Sports Radio. Let's turn the page once again as
we turn to a man that is holding down so
many different jobs he has lost killed it really is.
Ryan Finley is the man we're talking about beef, and
it rarely rarely seeks attention, no, for everything he has

(01:45:18):
done in his very diversified broadcasting career.

Speaker 9 (01:45:21):
Now, I just think anybody can understand the hustle, right
You're chasing something and sometimes you got to supplement one
thing with another. I think we all understand that, Matt.
Kudos to anybody who works a second shift, another job,
something to help out the cause, something to feed the fan.
So we do what we can, just trying to learn
from you all, and it's always fun to be here

(01:45:43):
with you all, Which is where we go now, college
basketball taking center stage, of course, Steve and I will
be watching intently later on tonight when UCLA and USC
are going to be battling it out at seven o'clock
at poly Pavilion. But if I lenin talked about that
in and Up yet, I guess I'd probably get fired.
So that might be my last update by the way

(01:46:04):
in doing so. But right now we do have number
nine Kansas leading Texas twenty three to fifteen, one hundred
nine minutes ago in the first half. Many other games
to get to, but the biggest story in college basketball
has been Kyle Philipowski, the big man for the Dukies.
The number eight Duke Blue Devil's loss to Lake Forest

(01:46:26):
eighty three to seventy nine in Winston Salem, there was
a court storming afterwards and Philipowski seemingly injuring his knee
spreading his knee that according to head coach John Shier,
coming from the court storming or students ran into him.
Philipowski had a chance to say a few things on
the matter afterwards he took when he spoke to Channel

(01:46:47):
two in North Carolina.

Speaker 14 (01:46:49):
You know, I've I felt a bunch of hits on
my body. Lustorm was the worst of them. Like I said,
it's just really ridiculous of how that sitsue based his
hand of I've already heard that there's some videos of
getting punched in the back, and so I absolutely feel
like it was personal, you know, intentional.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
For intentional for sure. So that's I mean, we're talking
assault charges, right, why would there not be So you
have a student running onto the court hitting somebody purposely. Yeah,
I'm sorry the thought that's what we call assault charges.

Speaker 9 (01:47:29):
Well, and here's the thing. You think you can get
away with it when you're around a mass conglomeration and
that's a big word for me, but a mass conglomeration
of people that you can get away with things like that.
But we know there are cameras everywhere. Moncie and Steve
so say, there's an NBA guy who's trying to take
a shot below the belt on somebody thinking they can

(01:47:50):
get away with it. You don't get away with anything
these days, especially if it's on a playing surface.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
We have people, you know, rating stores and getting away
with it. It's not a big deal. Well that's a
different story. That's different story.

Speaker 9 (01:48:01):
And yes, that is California anyway, and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Still on video. The point is everything is on video.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Yes, you know, yes everything's on video, but I mean serious,
I mean and we just talked about, you know, crowd
behavior and everything else. And no, there are certain things
that you have to draw the line saying no, you
can't do that just because you bought to take it
to a sporting event.

Speaker 9 (01:48:24):
Yeah, there's an entitlement that sometimes sports fans have and
going to games, and then when you think about them
being inebriated, that also might add to the entitlement factor.
Number four Arizona might have some entitled fans, but for
good reason, they keep winning ninety one to seventy five
in college basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
They get it done.

Speaker 9 (01:48:42):
The Wildcats over Washington number six I State seventy one
to sixty four winners against West Virginia, number twenty five
BYU goes down on the road eighty four to seventy
four against Kansas State, Ole Miss losing at home in
Oxford to number twenty South Carolina seventy two to fifty nine,
a low scoring affair where number ten North Carolina seizes

(01:49:04):
an opportunity to take out an acc fo fifty four
to forty four against Virginia number seventeen Kentucky getting some
redemption after they lost a couple of days ago at
LSU with a one seventeen ninety five beat down of
number thirteen Alabama. We also saw a win for number
twelve Illinois ninety five to eighty five against Iowa, and

(01:49:26):
lastly in overtime victory for number two Houston eighty two
to seventy six against number eleven Baylor. Houston twenty four
and three. They're eleven and three in conference play, and
as I get it back to you, Montsey and Steve,
Houston has to be one of those teams. And I
know we're going to have the Fox Sports Radio fill

(01:49:48):
out the bracket NT play tournament. I would have to
think that half of the people that are working in
this building are going to have Houston winning at all.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
ROI again. And how many national championships Houston this one?
They've had it, you know, when you think about Houston
basketball going back to the Guy Lewis days early on
with Elvin Hayes and then much later with the team
of Lodge, when Clyde Drexler, you know, even recently, I
mean they've had some you know, Final four runs, but yeah,
they've never wont.

Speaker 9 (01:50:15):
To have you done like have you written a stat
book on, say, Houston basketball in nineteen seventy eight, have
you done that?

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
Well, not seventy eight, because that was a pretty insignificant
year for Houston. But I mean, first of all, of course,
someone of my era. I mean when you talk about
the single greatest impact college basketball game that was ever
played in terms of time and impact, was in nineteen

(01:50:44):
sixty eight when the University of Houston, led by Elvin Hayes,
played UCLA in the middle of the Astrodome. Now, this
had never been done before. In fact, what they did
was they imported the basketball court from the Los Angeles
Sports Arena, flew it to Houston, pieced it together, and
then put the court in the middle of the Astrodome.

(01:51:07):
Just the aerial view of it was ridiculous because you
had this huge, you know, fifty thousand seed stadium. Do
you have a little, tiny court in the middle. And then,
of course Houston upset was the first loss of then
Luel Sindor's career. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, you didn't see that game, No,
I wasn't alive.

Speaker 9 (01:51:28):
And as Manci you know this, they talk about getting
married to the game. Yes, Steve you are married to
numbers and get them yes, and you hold out with
a badge of honor.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
I applaud you. I do. By the way, speaking of
that game, Coach John Wooden has just been honored with
a posted stamp. The legendary UCLA coach who was one
of the most remarkable people that I ever encountered on
numerous occasions, very fortunately for me in my entire life.
I mean, he was beyond belief that man. I mean,

(01:52:01):
I could tell all kinds of stories about John Wooden.
He was remarkable.

Speaker 9 (01:52:06):
Some would say, you're remarkable. No, no, no, no, are remarkable.
One of my favorite stories about Coach Wooden. I actually
was fortunate enough. We had a big event called Winning Ways.
It was a huge event down in Orange County where
we brought in on people are very successful in whatever
they did to do interviews. And I was on a
stage and I got the plumb assignment to do a

(01:52:27):
one on one sit down interview with Coach Wooden in
front of I don't know about ten thousand people.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
It was an amazing experience. But before we got on stage,
I brought my family down to meet Coach Wooden behind scenes.
He was gracious as always. But my oldest son, who
was at about I guess he was maybe eight years
old at the time. He brought a friend with him,
and I was telling these kids, you know, as we're

(01:52:53):
going to the arena, you're about to meet the greatest
coach of all time any sport. And so I don't
know the mind of an eight year old. They think
he's like a real like an active coach. So when
you met Coach Wooden, the man's already in his mid
nineties at that point, and you know, completely sharp as
could be. And this kid looks at him and goes,

(01:53:15):
you're really old to Coach Woulden. And Coach Wooden doesn't
miss it be he looks right at him and he goes, actually,
I'm older than you think I am. The man had
an unbelievable sense of human He's just a phenomenal person.

Speaker 9 (01:53:29):
Did he ever get to talk in that interview or
did you talk over the whole time?

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
I was so I really had to restrain myself. I
really had a shame that it's hard for you because
I could have told his entire life story over and
over again, never let him speak, But no, I deferred
to Coach Wooden, and you know, he just one of
the most remarkable people. Vin Scully was very much the
same way. You know, people that are literally the best

(01:53:55):
of the best of the best, and then you meet
them and they're just better people. And that's how Coach
Wooden was, That's how Vin Scully was. And you're just
thinking of people that couldn't hold a candle to them,
that show certain levels of arrogance based on celebrity or stature,

(01:54:16):
and you're thinking, if the best of the best ever
are this genuine as individuals, what's wrong with the rest
of you? Jackasses?

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
That is a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
I mean seriously, I mean it's like, no, who would
have thought that after an update that Steve would say, jackass,
I can't what happens? I know I'm capable of yes,
yes that I mean, it's just, you know, just unbelievable.
But to have a chance to know these men and
obviously idolizing them and then meeting them as people, regular

(01:54:50):
people and finding out they're just that regular people who
are just very nice and courteous and the tentive. And
that's one of the great pluses know of my careers,
having a chance to have some kind of interaction with
people like that, and I can see the tears come.
It's very similar to when you and I forged our

(01:55:10):
friendship and I begged my way into one of your interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Uh, you know, I was going to bring that up.
I was like, how did you manage to get any work?

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Monsy?

Speaker 9 (01:55:19):
He talked about an incident at a party when he
showed up naked to the party.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
I did that. Yes, yeah, I beg Beefen to do
an interview with me just so I could tell that story.
Now you have to be.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
I jaw is still on the floor. I'm still picking
it up. But yeah, I know, I have so many
questions and so many thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
Well, I've had certain phases of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
Let's just say, so many questions, somebody thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
So many phases?

Speaker 4 (01:55:46):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Coming up on we'll continue the phase of covering everything
on in sports, including a rule change that you're going
to hear in Major League Baseball this year. This is
Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman and Moncey Belanos here on
Fox Sports Saturday. So I during the break, I shared
the story that, by the way, you can actually hear

(01:56:08):
in my interview with Brian Finley. Are you okay with
that story.

Speaker 3 (01:56:16):
Is it crazy that I'm not super surprised about it,
knowing you knowing this, uh, gentleman, that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Sits across for me.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
You know you just you you seem like you weren't wild,
But then I hear your wild and I'm like, yeah,
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
You know, you know how you can sort of prejudge
people by appearance. Sure, my appearance honestly has never changed
my entire life. I mean, my hair was a little longer,
obviously during longer, but my basic.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
Look, that's what you look like.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
And you know, I you know, I had like like
one dimple on one side, type of I got away
with murder just because I sort of appeared to be harmless.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Sure, you gotta take advantage when you can.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
And then you take advantage of that, right, you know.
So I get you. You know, everyone's got something that's
going for them, everybody, and so you know, and every
every one of us on this planet has I mean,
everyone's hyper critical about this, that and everything else. Everyone's
got something everything. Yep, it sets you apart from the

(01:57:21):
rest of the crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
Was your wife at this party? Your ex wife?

Speaker 5 (01:57:27):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
Was she had she wasn't even born yet.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
She wasn't even born yet. I don't think I knew that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Now she was born. Let's see when I graduated high school,
she was almost seven.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
I don't think I knew that. The more you know,
the more you know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
But that might my dating scene is the whole difference.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Oh that's a that's for the fifth hour.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
That's that's another, that's another, that's another hour baseball. Last year,
baseball made a mighty step forward, Moncey by introducing the
pitch clock. The average baseball game was reduced in time
by almost twenty five minutes per game. Crazy and by
the way, a tenance at the games was at its

(01:58:10):
highest level in almost ten years. It worked. I went
to a couple of Dodger games early in the season,
one of those matinee specials that starts at New and
I was just stunned, Like we were out of there
in two hours, Yeah, like two twenty two thirty and
we are games over, Like I wasn't used to that
in recent years. Like, you know, you would go to

(01:58:31):
concessions and you would leave, let's say, like in the
third inning, and you come back an hour later. It's
like the fifth inning, right, miss a lot, And this
time I'm coming back. It's like we're in the bottom
of the seventh, Like I missed the seventh inning stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Yeah, Now, you can't be late, especially here at Dodger Stadium.
You've got to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
So one of the big rules was when there was
nobody on base, the pitcher had fifteen seconds to deliver.
If there was a runner on bay, they would have
twenty seconds. Well, this year, because apparently this was part
of the deal, it's been reduced to eighteen seconds, and
the Players Association's not exactly happy about this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
No, there's a couple of players, one specifically Corbyn Burns,
ace pitcher for the Brewers. He thinks that injuries that
happened this past year we're because of that pitch clock,
and he doesn't think that the league is doing its
due diligence into looking into how it's affecting the pitchers,
making them now have to speed up their pitch when
they're not used to it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
Right, The younger pitchers were okay, but it was the
veteran pitchers, yes, early on, when you look at guys
like shirts or and Berland or early in the year,
were really struggle. Yeah, because you've played your entire career
without a pitch clock exactly, and all of a sudden,
your routine is completely thrown off because you got to
get that pitch off. Now, both of them adjusted to

(01:59:50):
it as the season went on. But yeah, I mean
this was a good thing of what they happened, And
I don't want to go over the top on this. Yeah,
I mean getting the game down to an average about
two hours forty minutes. That's good enough for major league.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
Basically, That's what I was gonna say. Is it really
worth it for two seconds? It's hard to imagine it is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
Well, I mean two seconds over I mean, maybe knock
off another five minutes of the of the game time.
But I don't think. I don't think that's worth it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
It does not sound worth it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Yeah, because we I'll tell you what's not good is
Pitcher's getting hurt.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
No, I don't know. I don't know if it was
really just for five minutes. That sounds so.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Stupid, like that sounds like a stupid reason. Oh we
want to do We're going to shave five more minutes?

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Well, my point was, you got more people to show
up for the games already successful, and that's good. That's
a good thing, and maybe some people that were not
big baseball fans gave it a chance because of the clock.
But beyond that, don't don't alienate your biggest fan base.
That's for sure. All right. The NBA's got some problems.
We got to get to. This is Fox Sports Saturday. Ah,

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lifetime ago, we would.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
Have gone to high school together. I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
Well, you would look at I would imagine, Mancy, that
you were just wildly popular in high school.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
It may have been a little popular.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
Yeah, you were in the it crowd.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
It may have been in it maybe maybe, So you know, no,
I was well liked.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
Maybe yes, yeah, yes, but you know I was.

Speaker 3 (02:01:41):
I had friends in all all over the place because
I played sports, but I also did theater. Yeah, so
I was like, you know, I had theater friends, and
then I had my my sports friends, and then I
also like spoke Spanish, so I was friends with all
the Latin people, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
So yeah, yeah, were you voted like most popular?

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
I was voted, No, we didn't have most popular. What
was I don't it was?

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
No, we didn't have the most popular. It was something
something else. I was voted, but it was not most popular.

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
I don't even remember.

Speaker 3 (02:02:13):
The one I wanted I didn't get and I was
so mad. It was I wanted most athletic because I
played year round. I played volleyball, basketball and softball, and
I didn't get it. I got it over. I think
it was Shannon who I played basketball with, who she
was a star. But that was the one I wanted,
and I didn't get it. I got something else.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
I was like, I don't care about this one.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Yeah, we were. We had three finalists, and I was
the finalist in two categories.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
Class clown.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
Well no, I wasn't that, which was unbelievable. What was
best smile? I actually got that. Yeah, but the other
one was the best most sincere. Now that that was
that was hilarious. That was that to be some kind
of joke that is funny.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
You know, maybe you are sincere.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
I guess I am you are sincere. Yeah, having some fun.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
We start off today talking a little bit about the NBA,
now that the NBA sort of has center stage for
a while. Rough start for the NBA, Yeah, I mean,
the All Star Game turned out to be a fiasco,
and we open the show trying to figure out in
a year where Commissioner Adam Silver had made it clear
to the players, we need this game to be more competitive.

(02:03:32):
It doesn't mean that we're asking you to play a
game like it's Game seven of the NBA Finals, but
we need a competitive basketball game. I mean when Magic Johnson,
Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, even as recently as Kobe Bryant
and early in Lebron's career, the All Star Games alma

(02:03:54):
not played with the intensity of a regular season game,
much less a playoff game. But at least the games
were competitive, right, This game ended up with three hundred
and ninety seven points and three fouls.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
You know, just a joke.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
Now you've made a complete mockery.

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Now, the NFL got to this point where eventually the
games became touch football to the point where they decided
enough's enough and they created a flag football game.

Speaker 2 (02:04:21):
But to me that I understand.

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
I understand in football players not wanting to go all
out because it is such a high contact level sport.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
In basketball, I don't get that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
I don't know if it was Anthony Edwards that said it,
that they were like, well, you know, we just don't
want to get hurt, so we're not trying this hard.

Speaker 2 (02:04:40):
And I was like, who has gone hurt in an
All Star game?

Speaker 1 (02:04:43):
Usually, and athletes have told me this, you are far
more likely to get hurt. Try not to get hurt.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
I believe that as well.

Speaker 3 (02:04:51):
Yes, because you're doing something that's not coming natural to you,
because you're holding back.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
If you just go out there and you just play,
it's come second nature too, So I totally believe that.
I'm like, who has ever gotten hurt?

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
I know, like, I think one time Kobe didn't get
like a bloody nose or something during one of the
All Star Games, but he played like nobody has actually
gotten hurt in an NBA All Star Game where they
were not able to finish out the season or come
back and play two days later.

Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
So to me, I'm just like, this's a joke.

Speaker 1 (02:05:18):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (02:05:18):
It's a joke.

Speaker 3 (02:05:20):
This is nobody's asking you to tackle this guy or
anything like that. We just want to see the best
of the best actually play against each other, which is
a nice treat if you actually take it seriously. And
I know we are kind of like bashing Adam Silver
a little bit because he's turned this into a player's league,
But there has to be some responsibility put on Lebron James,

(02:05:40):
put on Steph Curry, right like the faces of the league.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
You guys have to be the ones that are pushing.

Speaker 3 (02:05:47):
For your teammates to want to just take it seriously
a little bit, a lead little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
I one hundred percent agree, And so there is that
fine line.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
We have breaking news, breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 9 (02:06:05):
Yeah, guys, we got breaking news. UCLA football is bringing
on Eric b Enemy as their offensive coordinator to Adam Schefter,
Monsey and Steve Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
Is this real?

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
This is a real story. Wow? Okay that wow, that's
that's that's a huge story on a number of levels. Here.
If you don't know, Chip Kelly left UCLA abruptly, yes,
taking a four million dollar a year pay cut to
become the offensive coordinator Ohio State with his former quarterback
in college New Hampshire when he was coaching there, and

(02:06:44):
they hire Sean Foster, been the running backs coach, former
UCLA running back than the running backs coach, but had
no experience as a coordinator or anything else. But to
bring in a proven offensive coordinator at the highest level
in the NFL like Eric Enemy, who by the way,
is an LA guy. Originally that's a major play. Yeah,

(02:07:04):
so more on this. So it's a finalization of a
two year deal. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:07:08):
So not only is he going to be offensive coordinator,
but he will be associate head coach. This accordion to
Pete Thamil ESPN and other outlets as well. And according
to one report, he is going to have and this
is understandable considering his title. He's gonna have full autonomy
over the offense and in trying to revitalize an offense

(02:07:29):
going into now the Big ten era as UCLA does.

Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
Well. I mean, this is this is a story on
so many because I mean, obviously the frustration for Eric
B Enemy in the coaching hiring cycles of the last
what three years, that he had been bypassed and then
he decided, you know, to sort of roll the dice,
leave the chiefs to go to the commanders to take
over his offensive coordinator, which seemed ludicrous in the sense

(02:07:57):
that Ron Rivera was dead man walking ownership of the organization.
He knew Rivera was not going to be long for
the job and that once he was let go, so
was everyone else going to be let go. And that's
exactly what happened to the enemy. They let him go,
bringing Cliff Kingsbury be the offensive coordinator of the commanders. Wow, okay,

(02:08:17):
that's going to be very interesting.

Speaker 9 (02:08:19):
It also adds Steven Montci that the enemy has probably
known or you would understand this to be the case,
that he did draw strong interest from a lot of
NFL teams this offseason as far as being an OC
or an assistant head coach, never able to get the
job or wasn't interested in it. Not clear whether it

(02:08:40):
was all on him or whether the other side who
was looking to hire went with somebody else in the
end because maybe they felt like they had a better fit.
But this is the fit, and as you mentioned, Steve
Los Angeles, this guy knows this area and this could
be one of those opportunities for him where he has
a makeover and finally gets UCLA to the Promised Land.

(02:09:04):
But also maybe this leads to him getting back to
what he could be one day is that head coach?
And say an NFL perspective.

Speaker 3 (02:09:11):
Has his path ever crossed with Deshaun Foster's path in
some way?

Speaker 2 (02:09:15):
Have they ever worked together? They both UCLA?

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
But do we know so what happened here? Eric b
Enemy is someone that went to high school in the
Los Angeles area In the late eighties, Bill McCartney, who
was the coach at the University of Colorado, did something
that only one other school to ever really done outside
of US and UCLA. Arizona State did this way back
in the Frank Cush days back in the nineteen seventies,

(02:09:41):
and he dared go into the LA market to recoup
players and built Arizona State into a powerhouse by doing so.
Bill McCartney did the same thing in the late eighties.
He actually dared to come into the southern California market
for high school talent, saying, hey, if you don't want
to go to US here UCLA, come to Colorado. And

(02:10:02):
before you know that, Colorado went from an Ulsa ran
to a powerhouse. Eric b Enemy was a running back
on those great Colorado teams, third in the Heisman Trophy,
had seen a year at Colorado. So he's an LA guy.
But even more so than that, from a recruiting standpoint,
you're bringing in an offensive coordinator with a lot of

(02:10:22):
NFL credibility.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
No, it sounds like a big win for UCLA.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
Yeah, especially with the recruiting of quarterbacks when you have
been helping to mentor a guy by the name of Patrick.

Speaker 2 (02:10:35):
Mahomes right right, Wow, I was.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
Not that is out of nowhere. That really is out
of nowhere. That's a game changer.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
And plus, you know, look at Deshaun Foster. With all
due credit, Look, I love Here's what I loved about
Deshaun Foster because Chip Kelly, at no point did you
ever really feel Chip Kelly was a Bruin.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
Yeah, you just you just never felt it. I understand that,
and I'm not and I know exactly yes.

Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
Yeah, And you know Charmond the athletic director of UCLA
and hiring Deshaun Foster. Foster made it infinitely clear. I
am a Bruin. I am proud to be a Bruin.
I've always been a Bruin. I always wanted this a
dream job, blah blah blah blah blah, which is an
honest thing. But his lack of you know, background as
a coordinator, as a head coach or anything along those lines.

(02:11:23):
To bring in someone like Eric b enemy smart move.
That's a really smart move. H So all right, we were,
you know, before the show, Beefin and I like to
talk a little UCLA Sports and our frustration, you know
of the you know, the direction that they seem to
be going in this game changer Beefin.

Speaker 9 (02:11:42):
It is and you brought it up. It's a credibility
that he brings. First of all, you've got the passion
from a head coach in Deshaun Foster. But to your point,
Monsey and Steve about Chip Kelly no longer at UCLA,
who is Chip Kelly? We never got to really get
an idea of who this man is. He never ever

(02:12:03):
really showed emotion. I never had a chance to really
get a chance to know him as someone.

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
Who works with the school.

Speaker 9 (02:12:10):
And then as soon as Deshaun Foster gets the opportunity
to be a head coach, we're in his office the
day of his introductory press conference at interviewing him, it's
a completely different landscape UCLA football.

Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
Now, well he's someone your root for it, for your
UCLA fan, want you want it to work out with him.
But this is a huge hire to get Eric the
enemy in as your offensive coordinator. I love it. Wow.
I needed that. I needed that. I needed that. I
was so down. I mean I always feel down about it,
and and then Bfen brings me down even further. Well,
you know, because he's a straight shooter and he's like, Okay,

(02:12:44):
there's the problem, and I'm like, we just commiserate, and
so wow, all right, very very good coming up on
the other side. For the NBA, yes, certainly not all
bad is But here's here's a big question. Does this
league right now have of a player that is the

(02:13:04):
next Lebron James or the next Steph Curry. There are
candidates who've had an opportunity that have not caught on.
Why is that? We'll break it down. This is Fox
Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Montci Belanias here on this Saturday,
Fox Sports Saturday, coming live from the Ti rag dot

(02:13:26):
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off the air.

Speaker 4 (02:13:46):
We have.

Speaker 1 (02:13:48):
Like on air stuff and we have off air stuff, right. Yeah,
So people are like, do you ever stop talking?

Speaker 5 (02:13:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:13:56):
I never do.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
No, that's on air, off air, in air, midair, just
all air.

Speaker 1 (02:14:02):
I just I have a lot to say.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
You do you do?

Speaker 1 (02:14:06):
Even if I'm talking to myself. That's okay, It's all right.

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
Somebody's listening.

Speaker 1 (02:14:12):
I hope the NBA is listening right now because they're
really in need of a new face. Yeah, Lebron James
and Steph Curry are still the faces of this league.
And you know, this league benefited from the unreal opportunity

(02:14:33):
there had never been before the Cavs and the Warriors
faced off four consecutive years. There had never been teams
that ever had faced each other three straight years in
the NBA Finals, But for four straight years, you got certainly,
at that time, Lebron was the best player in the
league going against the best team in the league, led

(02:14:55):
by Steph Curry. Of course, Kevin Durant was in on
the last two there. It was a dream and it
really was reflected in the ratings. The ratings for all
four of those NBA finals were outstanding. And when you
lose that anticipation of a matchup between Steph and Lebron,
the league suffers. I mean, now we're looking at the

(02:15:16):
possibility of them facing off in a playing game, which is,
by the way, what we had a couple of years ago,
the first year of the play in we had the
Warriors and the Lakers, and my comment was, well, this
really started defeats the whole purpose because the Warriors would
have been a playoff team that year. They were like
a seven the Lakers or eight or vice versa. But

(02:15:39):
one of them got eliminated. I said, well, that's great,
you just knocked out one of your biggest stars. Had
you just stayed with the normal playoff format, they both
would have been in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Yeah. That backfired on them.

Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
And it could happen again.

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
Yeah, but you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:15:53):
Worry about this, Moncie, if there was a player that
was ready to take the baton and become the of
this league. Now we had Yannis win a championship, got
Jokic winning a championship, and really that comes along with
why Steph and Lebron are who they are, because they
have multiple obviously championships, and it just doesn't seem to

(02:16:17):
be sticking with these guys.

Speaker 3 (02:16:18):
Yeah, well, you know, I think it's because the face
of the NBA were players that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:25):
Kind of fell flat.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
I think Zion Williamson was set to be the next
face of the NBA, right, especially just the prospect of like, ooh,
somebody like Lebron, Like just the hype around Zion Williamson
when he first came in. Then he gets hurt and
you know, still stories about him in his diet, Like,
I think he was supposed to be, right, the face
of the NBA. It didn't work out. Another player I

(02:16:50):
think that the NBA was hoping would be the face
of the NBA, Jahn Moran, John Moran was perfect, perfect
perfect Not.

Speaker 2 (02:16:58):
So much now, right.

Speaker 3 (02:16:59):
So I think that's why the face of the NBA
is this thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight year old
still because I think those guys were supposed to be
the ones taking over.

Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
So do you? And I said this about men's tennis
for a long time. There was an era where US
men were dominating. Yes, you could go back to John
McEnroe and Jimmy Connors, and then later with a Pete
Sampras and Andre Agassi, and then you even have like
a Jim Curry or a Michael Chang. These are American players.
And then you got Federer, and you got a Nadal,

(02:17:31):
and he got Djokovic and three the greatest players in
the history of the men's game. But they're not America.

Speaker 5 (02:17:39):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
And who's the young guy right now.

Speaker 1 (02:17:41):
Well, Alvarez, thank you, thank you, And so you're in
this country. This is why a Yannis or Jokic or
a Doncic can never assume that role. Fair are not,
even if they are the best players in the world.
We like our player's heroes to be American.

Speaker 3 (02:18:03):
So you think Shay because he's Canadian, Shae Gil just
Alexander can't do it. So I actually, Jokic, I'm gonna
put him out because I don't think he wants to
be the face of the NBA on his own.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
He's gonna be like.

Speaker 3 (02:18:14):
No, I got horses, I'm out toodles. Johannest probably would
like to be But you're right, it just doesn't doesn't
click like that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
I really do think Luca.

Speaker 3 (02:18:25):
I know he's international, but I think Luca is gaining
more and more traction, is he? I do think so.
And I don't know if he needs to win. Maybe
he needs to win, he needs to win. I'm not well,
of course he needs to win. When I said maybe,
I meant like this year he has to win. But
I do feel like he's gaining traction.

Speaker 1 (02:18:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:18:44):
And then if we if you're what you're saying, then
then when by Yama also couldn't be the face?

Speaker 1 (02:18:48):
Well and see that's that's the point. In other words,
have we gotten to the point where it doesn't have
to be a Jordan or a Kobe or shak or
I mean, you know American born players that become the
face of the NBA Wemba Yama is someone that may

(02:19:09):
test the water because realistically he's still several years away
from being on a team that could be in contention
for a championship. I mean, the Spurs have to build
a lot of pieces. The one thing we can't deny
is is talent. The fact that he has standalone skills

(02:19:31):
in terms of just his unique size and everything else.
What he's doing at a very young age tells you
that it's all there. Yeah, and he has a certain
level of charisma on top of everything else.

Speaker 3 (02:19:41):
The hype that comes with him, I think already helps Again.
Zion had so much hype with him and so did
John Morant just like Lebron.

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
So Wemby has that going for him.

Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
That the hype is there and he seems to be
delivering now everything.

Speaker 1 (02:19:56):
Well, he's got to win games.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
Well, he was every even he can stated.

Speaker 1 (02:19:59):
Last night losing the Lakers. Imagine how much more impressive
this would be if we actually won the game.

Speaker 3 (02:20:04):
And don't you love that answer? Yeah, exactly, that's the
perfect answer. But you're right, the Spurs have a lot
to do to help him get there, but he could
get there the other the only other one right right now?

Speaker 2 (02:20:18):
Is it Gus Edwards well or is he being pushed?

Speaker 1 (02:20:22):
But part of my point, Mons is also the fact
that every sport is better when they have an identifiable team.
The NFL is better now with the Chiefs being a
dominant team and Patrick Mahomes being dominant. Even if you've
become a Chiefs hater because of it, it's good it's
given the game an identity.

Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
Yeah, it's good for the sport.

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
So dominant teams, dominant individuals. Women's tennis certainly benefit from
Serena Williams dominance. Yeah, and so every sport needs it.
The NBA right now is in a transition.

Speaker 2 (02:20:56):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
You know, the Bucks won a championship, fell off. We'll
see what happens to the Nuggets. You know, can they repeat,
can they get on a roll or is that a
one and done. Obviously Lebron and Steph aren't going to
be around forever and their teams are barely relevant.

Speaker 15 (02:21:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:21:14):
Mark Mendina joined us a little bit earlier with the
chances of either one of those teams getting in a
playoff run, and he said he's probably not.

Speaker 2 (02:21:22):
Yeah, he doesn't think anything can happen, as he said.

Speaker 1 (02:21:24):
But yeah, but you saw the buzz last year when
the Lakers actually dig it to the semi finals and
all of a sudden because of the presence of Lebron James.
It was a good thing for the NBA. Yeah, but
they need somebody else to take it over. Let's find out.
What is trending right now is mentioning men's tennis and
of course no man is more attached to any sport

(02:21:45):
on the planet than Bryan Finley is to the game
of tennis. But do you agree with me? I mean,
when you think of the US domination with you know,
Connors and McEnroe, and then later with the likes of
Sampras and Agacy and Courier and Chang.

Speaker 6 (02:21:58):
That.

Speaker 1 (02:22:00):
Despite the fact that Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are the
three most dominant players in men's history in America, at
least their dominance didn't resonate with the same magnitude than
it did with a Pete Sampras, Agacy or a John macar.

Speaker 9 (02:22:16):
You have a point there, and I think where we're
seeing the effects of that is we do have some
guys coming up the ranks right now in American men's tennis,
like Francis Tiaffo and Tommy Paul, who are good. But
think about it, if say a Djokovic or a talent
like that came from the United States, I think we're

(02:22:38):
going to have more Americanized versions of say a Nadal,
a Djokovic right now.

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):
Well, you even had an American men's champion in Grand
Slam since Ronick.

Speaker 9 (02:22:47):
Yeah, in two thousand and three, that's twenty years. But
let me tell you the one thing though, that is
exciting for American men's tennis. And a lot of times
when you think about the best athletes in the United States,
unlike other sports, they're going to football, they're going to
the NBA and other places like this. But when you
have an up and comer like Ben Shelton, who is

(02:23:09):
an American, a men's tennis player who is on the rise,
who played quarterback in high school. Right, I don't think
I've ever heard of an American men's tennis player come
from a football background. But he carries with himself this
panache and this physicality and this grit that we haven't
seen athletically from an American men's tennis player. That I

(02:23:29):
think could help bring in more of those athletic types
who then can take this little drought we've had in
Americans men's tennis and change things.

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
I just you need I remember this so well. It
was the nineteen ninety one US Open when a thirty
nine year old Jimmy Conners made a miracle run to
the semis. He was an American player, obviously, it had
a great career. This is like his last run came
out of seemingly nowhere. The crowds in New York and

(02:24:00):
just bonkers. And you know, we like our sports heroes
to be homegrown. This is the way we are. We
always believe we're the best well, and so we want
whatever sport it is for our homegrown talent to be
the best well.

Speaker 9 (02:24:17):
And I think if you go outside of the United States,
the perception is that when foreigners look at the United States,
they like to think that our Americans, they think want
to be the best and are the best in everything.
And you know, I'm not sure that other countries and
other places want that to be the case, but that's
the impression we give off. So we only hurt Smontsy

(02:24:37):
when we don't have the best in something. I think
it really is ego crushing.

Speaker 3 (02:24:42):
I don't disagree, but hear you guys talk just made
me think, like, hello, what about shohe Atani and baseball?

Speaker 1 (02:24:48):
Well, but that's the whole point is how how big
of an impact is Otani actually having. We'll see now
that he's a Dodger, but as an angel guys ever
played in a playoff game?

Speaker 3 (02:25:00):
Right, But I think he is, like right, the face
right now of baseball in blue.

Speaker 1 (02:25:05):
But but are they getting The last true face of
baseball was Derek Cheater. Yeah, you know, because he was
the short side of the Yankees that were winning multiple
championships and he was the face of Major League Baseball.
I don't know, We'll see. I mean, Otani has a
great opportunity being a Dodger of obviously taking the next

(02:25:26):
level because now he's on a team that you know
is going to be in the playoffs every year. But
are Americans gonna jump on Otani? We'll see, well, and
Americans are losing in the NBA. Think about it, Like
you guys were talking about and joke Jokich and Doncic,
Luka Doncic. These are guys that are from outside the
United States America. They feel like we're the best at everything.

(02:25:48):
Well it's a rude awakening, yeah right now.

Speaker 9 (02:25:52):
And and I think that some fans are having a
hard time stomaching that reality. But the reality is that
Eric b Enemy, according to reports, is finalizing a two
year deal to become the offensive coordinator and associate head
football coach for UCLA. This coming is big news for
those in Westwood. Meanwhile, in college basketball, Eric Philipowski was sprained.

(02:26:16):
He had his knee sprain during a court storming today
when his number eight Duchies lost to Wake Forest eighty
three to seventy nine. He said afterwards that he felt
that a student who ran into him to cause the sprain,
that that student did it intentionally and that it was
on purpose. And now there is video coming out in
slow mo from the ceiling of the arena in Winston

(02:26:38):
Salem where you get a better look at it did
look on purpose, the student that ran into Philipowski, which
then turned it into a situation where he needed to
be helped off the floor. And I watched the video,
it was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (02:26:53):
I mean, Wake Forest, shame on you, no doubt.

Speaker 9 (02:26:56):
And then i'llive you with this because there are a
couple of other college basketball games that are going on,
one being number nine Kansas is all over Texas sixty
two to forty about halfway through the second half. There
and overtime win for number two Houston eighty two to
seventy six against number eleven Baylor, Number four Arizona triumphs
ninety one to seventy five against Washington, and lastly a

(02:27:20):
win for number seventeen Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (02:27:23):
They put their prior loss.

Speaker 9 (02:27:24):
From earlier in the week behind them after falling to
LSU where LSU got fine one hundred thousand dollars for
court storming, but one seventeen to ninety five the win
for Kentucky over number thirteen Alabama and they keep playing
as they get it back to Monsey and Steve john Shire,
the Dukeead coach, in the postgame press conference on his soapbox,

(02:27:48):
saying why are we still doing court stormings? Why is
this still happening? And it once again leads to an
injury on a player after they.

Speaker 1 (02:27:58):
Lost, well not only in the players, but it could
injure fans if you watch this video and we've seen
similar scenes, but this one was they engulfed that course literally,
I mean that court in a matter of seconds, and
as students are running on the court, one student falls,
one they're getting trampled, and then what who's responsible for that?

(02:28:27):
So before a real catastrophe happens, somebody's got to do
something about this.

Speaker 2 (02:28:32):
Unfortunately, that's usually what needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (02:28:35):
Well, yeah, usually, and all of a sudden you have
a tragedy happen, and then all that's what I do.
This should never have happened. It's like, okay, yeah, but
we had plenty of warnings before that it could happen.
Be fan, great job today. We always appreciate that. Once again,
we're here at the Tirak dot Com studios. Yeah, I mean,
it just it just it's just incredible to me, especially

(02:28:58):
with the Duke situation, because coach had commented about this
several times because obviously when you beat Duke, oh yeah,
it's a big deal. We get it. But you need
to get the players safely off the court. You can
hold back the fans if you know, just sort of

(02:29:18):
hang on one second.

Speaker 3 (02:29:20):
Yeah, Like you're not saying to stop it completely, You're
just saying, let's be safe with the players first.

Speaker 1 (02:29:27):
I never felt the need to run onto a field
to run on a court.

Speaker 3 (02:29:29):
I haven't either, But I also didn't go to schools
I necessarily didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:29:34):
I'm not saying I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:29:36):
No, I've been actually UCLA games where UCLA students did
that back in the day. It's not as easy now
because the way well that's the other problem, right, there
are certain basketball arenas well you can't that are right
for the taking, like they're just so close that it
doesn't take a lot. Like you say, if you watch

(02:29:56):
the video here of with the game at Wake Force,
they had covered that court in terisha seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:30:01):
Yeah, yeah, no, that was unbelievable. Nobody had a chance
to get out of there. None of the players had
a chance to get out of there even if they tried.

Speaker 2 (02:30:07):
Right, Which is the problem. That's that's the bottom line.

Speaker 3 (02:30:10):
It's like, you got to give it a second if
you are going to be doing this, well, it brings up.

Speaker 1 (02:30:15):
The bigger question suddenly. We talked out during the show
today just fan behavior in general. Right, we had the
incident with a woman dropping the B bomb on Kevin
Durant and he turned around and said what and then
she she put her hand out like, hey, it's like
my brother calls you that. We just like it's like
an endearing term.

Speaker 3 (02:30:35):
Yeah, no idiot, what are you talking?

Speaker 1 (02:30:38):
And then the guys she's with saying, hey, by the way,
I have a sports podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:30:41):
And then more of an idiot that one too a
sports and then Kevin Durand just turns around and he's.

Speaker 2 (02:30:47):
Like, what a waste of time? I just didn't you know?

Speaker 1 (02:30:49):
Well my point, well, he probably should have just ignored it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:53):
You know, you're right, that is that is probably the answer.

Speaker 1 (02:30:56):
But I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:30:57):
I don't know if I would have him differently than
the way Kevin Durant did.

Speaker 1 (02:31:02):
What he did was he gave this woman. No one
would have ever known this if he had just walked away.
No one's really paying attention. No one's going to capture that,
you know, with the B bomb being thrown on him
unless he reacts to it.

Speaker 2 (02:31:15):
You know, that is a good point because it's like,
who was recording this? Who caught this?

Speaker 1 (02:31:20):
Well, I mean the other people were maybe you know
videotape in the players coming out in the court. Here
is Kevin Durant, you know, one of the biggest stars
in the league, and yeah, all of a sudden he
turns around and they caught the audio. You could hear
the woman saying the word.

Speaker 2 (02:31:36):
I don't know. Again, I just don't.

Speaker 3 (02:31:38):
I don't blame the players for how they're handling things,
because I think I would be like that too.

Speaker 2 (02:31:47):
He didn't even do anything.

Speaker 3 (02:31:48):
You're right, he gave her more attention, you're right about that,
But he didn't do anything. He just turned around and
was like what And then she quickly changed her tune,
which is how most people are. It's like you talk
a lot of smack, but then put the player in
your face and you're probably not going to say that again.

Speaker 2 (02:32:01):
You know, he was.

Speaker 3 (02:32:02):
Walking away from you and you called him a B word,
like what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:32:05):
What are you doing? And you got to stand.

Speaker 3 (02:32:08):
Play because Katie was like, all right, whatever, you're eardom.

Speaker 1 (02:32:13):
So one thing about my lengthy career is I have
said certainly derogatory things about many players coaches over my time.
I usually would pick on those that were universally loved. Yeah,
to be the anti voice, sure, And one one athlete
in particular made me regret my words. You may have

(02:32:37):
heard of the guy. His name is Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 2 (02:32:38):
Ah, yes, I think I know who that is.

Speaker 1 (02:32:40):
So early on I was on the station that was
carrying LA King's hockey when Wayne was with the LA Kings. Huh,
And he had come from Edmonton where they had won
four Stanley Cups and he never won a Stanley Cup
as an LA King. I mean he was he literally
puts sort of hockey on the map. Next level obviously
being the biggest are in the league by far, but

(02:33:01):
I was that guy like, I'm sorry, is there a
Stanley cup that goes with us? So you know, and
then people are critical of me, saying, you know, don't
you dare, don't you dare?

Speaker 2 (02:33:11):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
So years later, after he had retired, I was invited
to this upscale wedding, and long story short, it turned
out he was at this wedding, okay, And I was
seated at a table at the post wedding reception with
three NHL players. The guy that was getting married was
a big hockey guy and he knew a lot of

(02:33:33):
NHL players, And so I'm sitting with these three other
guys and I see Gretzky in the room and one
of the guys said, hey, Hartman, can you get a
picture of us? Of Wayne? Like I mean for them,
He's God is in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
I'm thinking I'm a little nervous about this. So they
get up and I walk over and four of them

(02:33:53):
are lying that, you know, to take this picture, and
I take the picture and Wayne walks up to me
and he's like, Hartman, Man, I have been one of
your biggest fans. I've listened to you forever, like you
just do great. I love it. On the show and
I'm like flabbergasted, and I'm like, oh, I'm like, can

(02:34:16):
you come meet my wife? He goes absolutely, So he
I mean, like he was so nice. And not only
was he nice, he just hit me up, what do
you think of the Dodger?

Speaker 2 (02:34:25):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (02:34:26):
Like like like he was like harralling me, Like he's
like I get like one on one time with Hartman
to talk about sports and he's a big sports guy
and like he is like the nicest regular ever. Aw
And all I'm thinking is because he never once said
anything like man, I heard you rip me.

Speaker 2 (02:34:42):
Or yeah, none of that.

Speaker 5 (02:34:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:34:44):
So I'm like, you know, all I'm thinking the whole
time I'm talking to the guys like see, I take
it back everything at that.

Speaker 3 (02:34:50):
No, maybe he did hear it and he was like,
oh my goodness, Steve Hartman is talking about me.

Speaker 2 (02:34:55):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (02:34:56):
I was so flabbergasted. Yeah, Like I was like I
didn't want to say anything to him, obviously, but I'm thinking,
I'm thinking, like, I take back any bad thing I
said about you, super super super guy.

Speaker 11 (02:35:09):
So and it's what you want, that's what you like
to hear. Now I've met other people confront me about
things I've said. In fact, there's one current major league
manager apparently who I always thought was a friend of
mine that wasn't so friendly the last time I saw him.

Speaker 2 (02:35:21):
And you don't do you have any black eyes from it?

Speaker 1 (02:35:23):
No, but I was. I got a few stares from
this guy that I was like, am I missing something here?

Speaker 11 (02:35:30):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (02:35:31):
All right, we're gonna wrap things up. Coming up on
the other side. This is Fox Sports Saturday. There you go,
Steve Hartman and Monsey Belanos again here on Fox Sports Saturday,
coming you live from the tiraq dot Com studios. Want

(02:35:53):
to thank the crew today, beefin doing a phenomenal job
throughout the show, even that breaking news, Eric b Enemy
new offensive coordinator at UCLA.

Speaker 3 (02:36:03):
Wow, he's a He's a perfect blend for both of
us U C l A and Clippers.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
He's a perfect blend.

Speaker 1 (02:36:09):
Yes he is. All right, we're taking notes here, yeah, Patrick,
of course, our steam producer just doing it all.

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
Thanks Patrick, I do what I can, Guys, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:36:22):
Are you digging this dynamic duo here? Patrick, always digging
this dynamic duel. Let's go interesting there. Now we have
our new person on the board, Mary Mack. Mary Mack
is here. Now are you full time on this gig? Now?
Because I know Loraina was here to help train you
and everything.

Speaker 15 (02:36:43):
She's just like watching I've been like doing it, so
she's like she's just coddling.

Speaker 1 (02:36:48):
Me, right, I know that. But you feel very comfortable, right, Oh?

Speaker 15 (02:36:51):
Yeah, for sure, So I got it.

Speaker 1 (02:36:53):
Chris was here early, but he made a quick exit.
He did once he got the pizza and him he
was good.

Speaker 15 (02:36:59):
Yeah, I'm so upset. I got pizza before I came
in here.

Speaker 1 (02:37:03):
You see, this is this We literally talked about that.

Speaker 15 (02:37:06):
Yeah, and then I walked in and I saw two
boxes of.

Speaker 1 (02:37:08):
Pizza and I was I did the same thing. I
ate literally before we get because I have TV after this,
so it's like, all right, when am I got a
chance to eat?

Speaker 2 (02:37:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:37:16):
So I, you know, got something before I got here.
And it's not just any pizza. It's like the really
good stuff.

Speaker 15 (02:37:22):
I was down the store. I even went to that
same spot. I have my small box. It's in the
like breaker right now.

Speaker 2 (02:37:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:37:28):
So upset?

Speaker 13 (02:37:29):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (02:37:30):
Yeah, no you should be.

Speaker 4 (02:37:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:37:31):
I was like, I just asked a fine hours for nothing.
I could have saved that for I don't know already dead.

Speaker 1 (02:37:36):
Yeah, it's still good. Believe me, it carries out all right. Well,
what great job by everybody today, no question about that.
Good team, go team. So yeah, it's it is that
time of the year when we were really able to
talk about a lot of different things today and uh,
you know, as far as the NBA is concerned, I

(02:37:57):
feel I want this to work for the NBA. I'm
just anxious to see the next page. Yeah, who is
going to be because again last night Wemby was unbelievable.
We talked about the whole line that he had over
you know, at five by five in terms of points, rebounds, assists, steals,

(02:38:17):
and blocks. He is he's as good as advertising, no
question about that.

Speaker 2 (02:38:23):
But he's living up to the hype.

Speaker 1 (02:38:24):
But again he's going to have to win championships.

Speaker 4 (02:38:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:38:27):
Luckily for him though, he is part of the Spurs,
which is a winning organization.

Speaker 2 (02:38:32):
I mean haven't won in a while, but you know it's.

Speaker 3 (02:38:33):
There, the coaches there. He really could be the face
of the NBA.

Speaker 1 (02:38:39):
Well, what's interesting about the Spurs when you think about
their dominance and their five championships, is the biggest star
was never the face of the NBA, and that's Tim Duncan. No,
Tim Duncan never wanted that the big fundamental. He didn't
need it, you know, he wasn't He wasn't flashy in
any way. And I remember for years I used to

(02:39:04):
talk about his career as opposed to Kobe because they
coincided and for much of their careers. The bottom line,
Duncan had a better resume, more championships at one time.
I mean, Kobe caught him with five more MVPs, more
finals MVPs, and nobody was putting Duncan in the same

(02:39:24):
conversation as Kobe. So it's a combination of a lot
of things. I mean, Lebron and Steph have the factor
on top of the fact they're dominant players and win championships.

Speaker 3 (02:39:35):
And with Steph, you know what I think it was
for him, I think it's just that people see him
so relatable. Oh, like, you were not supposed to be
doing this, You were this small dude that nobody expected you,
and so he won everyone over because he is so relatable. Well,
Lebron was always supposed to be this, you know, since
he was fifteen years old.

Speaker 1 (02:39:54):
But even that's even more impressive and because when you
were annoyed as the chosen one, as Lebron was as
a high school player. First time I was ever had
his name actually mentioned on my show. I was interviewing
Sonny Vcerrol back in the day, and I asked him
who's the best high school player? Thinking he's talking about
a senior. He says, he's a freshman crazy out of Akron, Ohio,

(02:40:16):
and his name is Lebron James, and I had never
heard the name. For him to live up and exceed
that hype is amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:40:23):
And have no real drama in the two.

Speaker 1 (02:40:27):
He's a family guy. I mean they try to make
a big deal about the decision and all this kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:40:33):
That's the worst.

Speaker 1 (02:40:34):
I mean, well, how bad was it? Then he left
to come back and actually get the job done by
winning a championship. All right, much more coming up. Don't
you go anywhere, cap it right here? This is Fox
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