Steve Hartman & Monse Bolaños Talk Olympics, Pro Football Hall of Fame, New Kickoff Rules and More!

Steve Hartman and Monse Bolaños recap the biggest headlines from the Paris Olympics including controversy in boxing. NFL Hall of Famers are inducted but can Eli Manning be a 1st ballot contender? The NFL preseason features the new kickoff rules. Plus, a visit from Adam Caplan during his training camp tour and much more!

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I was tweeting our.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Tweet our video of you and Lee talking about movies,
even though we're here at Fox Sports Radio a whole
movie conversation.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
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is here and Lee and Lee actually his radio career
here at Fox Sports Radio began as an intern for
me like one hundred years ago. Like way, wait, look
at full circle this sweet? Can we get Lee on
the Lee? What? What year was that? I'm losing track?

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What was that?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I was thinking about that today as I was getting
ready to come in. I think twenty eleven, twenty eleven. Wow,
I was in college. I was in college.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I was also in college ye yes, he was in
college and he started intering with It was obvious that
he had a huge future here at Fox Sports Radio,
and so he's slumming now to be with us here
on the weekend. We're a little shorthanded, so Lee appreciate
fels good bye, Feels good. Leah course is the diehard
Packer fan. He's always decked out in his Green Bay gear.
So we got a lot of NFL news are going

(01:29):
to get to today. Obviously, Adam Kaplan is going to
be joining us later on in the show. He has
already begun his tour of NFL training camps. In fact,
he is actually here in so cap I know where.
There are training camps all over the place, including teams
like the Saints and the Raiders. No one's supposed to
talk about where the Raiders are training right now, So

(01:51):
we're going to get an update from him on his
travels around the NFL. But obviously the big story over
the last week. And by the way, how was last
week for Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It was a lot of fun. I went to see
my brother and sister in law. We did a little
beer and dog like festival thing.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
It had to do with like Comic Con saw these
dogs and beer and like they were.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Just at comic Con.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, I've done comic.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Con, but we were right next to it, like right
in that area, and there was like a little beer
dog fest that we want to you know, that's the
way to get me to go anywhere, dogs and beer,
like I'm in.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So it was like Temecula, No in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Literally like like Comic Con was walking distance. It was
all in that area.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
So nice drinking, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know, and I needed it because two weeks ago
when I saw you, they broke into my car, which
I mentioned on the Okay, so this so I have
a laptop that's not even I have a laptop that
my dear friend gave me as a okayer.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Ear's what happened. So two weeks ago, yes, and you
had already headed out to your car, correct, And I
was heading out to my car, but I had to
go because I had to get to television.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So I was, you know, racing out the door to
get over to TV. So I didn't even have a
chance to talk. Yeah, and you're walking back towards the bit.
I'm like, why are you walking back? And then you
told me that someone had broken into your car.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, and they took a lot of stuff, including my my.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Laptop that I left, and I did everything you're supposed
to do.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I hit it.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I put it on the floor of the passenger seat
with a blanket over it, and they just grabbed the
bag and in it. I had like jewelry, and I
wear nice jewelry, not to but you know, I don't
wear cheap jewelry, so a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
When in that shoes, my Dodger jersey, a Dodger shirt.
I travel.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I have a bag because I'm always going places, you know,
And I was actually going to start to.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Going not at all, not at all.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
No, No, I was more, you know, want to tell
you what I was really mad about. So they opened
the inside. They cracked open my car by taking off
where the keyfob goes in. So they must have used
like a screw screwdriver. So my car was already unlocked
when I got there. No windows were broken, it was
unlocked like they forced themselves in. And then through the inside.
They brought down the seat to the trunk and they

(03:58):
grabbed whatever bag they could grab. Now in the trunk,
I've got tennis rackets, I got a football, I got
a volleyball. I got all this stuff and a bag
that had the only glove that I have ever played
with since I was ten years old. So it was
like my softball bag at Cleats and Cleatston matter.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I had some balls, but that glove.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's the only glove I've ever used, and that's really
what hurt the most. Everything else it's like, well, I
guess I'll just have to buy a new laptop, buy
all this, but the glove.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'm like, I, Well, whoever did this? If you're listening
right now.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
To help you get hit by a car, I'm not
going to.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Say that she just did. Yeah, that person gets hit
by a car too.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, I don't need them to die, just get hit.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
By a car, Okay. And then after that car has
hit you, they back up.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah exactly, okay, exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's terrible. It really sucked.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Sucked.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
That is awful.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was in a depressed state for like forty eight hours.
But Nick Copa is celebrating.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Something is celebrating. It's hard to tell because once again,
with Steve is not liable. Sports going on.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
So okay, so so Steve we talk pre show. Steve
does not like fun things because Steve does not like relays.
He's like, these are individual sports swimming in track. We
just watched the four by one hundred the USA wins
gold and the four by one hundred medley relay. You've
got two men, two women, all the strategy. You got

(05:27):
to decide, all right, who's gonna swim. When the US
starts with the men up front, they have the women
close it and they're able.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
To beat China for the gold. That's just fun.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Steven Epic Music can see.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
What's interesting also about these Olympics. When we post our
medal count, right, when everybody posts the metal count, we
have the most medals. But if you go to Olympics
dot com, the official Olympic website, they list the metal
leaders by who has the most gold medal. Right, China
has the most gold medals, so we need team is shrinking.

(06:04):
That lead is shrinking sixteen to fourteen now, okay, so
we're beginning to reel them in. So that and and
no knock. Look look at if you have trained four
years to compete in the Olympic Games and any medal
you go home with a medal.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, absolutely, I wouldn't take it off.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
But we're a country of winners, right, Yeah, it's about winning.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
No, in most things, you know, there's an honor to
finish second or third. But for most things in life,
there aren't any silver and bronze medals. Either you win
or you don't win. And so I want to make
sure the and I feel confident that we can reel
in China. Okay when it's all said and down track

(06:47):
and feels strong for us. Our shot put are won
third time in a row. First time that's ever happened
that someone who's won the shot put in three consecutive Olympics.
They run up the.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Medals and stuff like airsoft shooting which they had to
be decked like. There was that one who had to
be decked out almost like a cyborg out there. Right,
you already see that Turkey guy who's got like gray
hair and glass.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Just shooting bang bang, Yeah, half uncle.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Half of China's gold medals have come from shooting and diving.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Right, I understand. I mean there's something to be said
of where these gold medals. Well, there's so many layers
on how I want to talk about where the Olympic
Games are now? Because I have been following the Olympics.
I mean watching them since I was ten years old,
Mexico City, nineteen sixty eight, so that was that's the

(07:34):
first Olympic Games on ABC when I was watching the Olympics. Yes,
you know. And where we were then and where we
are now, it's like two different worlds, and in some
respects it's good. The one good thing is is that
the United States and most countries now compensate their Olympic athletes.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yes, I can't believe that there's.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Actual dollars and cents attached to these medals, and I
think that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Of course it is, of course it is.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
You're leaving for how long, possibly maybe putting a pause
on your job.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Back in the days when the Soviet Union in East
Germany were our main rivals in the Olympic Games, those
athletes were compensated. They were employees of their country and
so they were fully compensated, as opposed to the United
States athletes that were not compensated at all.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Outside of travel expenses, that was about it. And so
you trained on your own and you couldn't accept any
money at all. If you did, you were stripped of
your amateur status and it was an a fair playing
field because they're getting compensated. But if I take any money,
I'm out. Yeah, that's how crazy. It was so ridiculous,

(08:49):
way past those days. The thing I was talking about
earlier with Nick is sometimes I feel like they are
padding how many events there are in the Olympic Games.
And one of the things a takeaway is, now, look
at sports like baseball and football and basketball hockey, our

(09:13):
four main team sports. Those are team sports. It's hard
to play baseball by yourself. Theoretically you could do one
on one basketball. Yeah, And by the way, I did
not know until I'm literally watching right now again there
was three on three basketball. I'll get to that later
as well. But in sports like swimming and track and field,

(09:35):
they just keep adding these.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Relays, variations of it, variations of relays.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now they have mixed relays. We have men and women
in both track and field. It's the first time that's
ever happened. Right as far as mixed relays, did they
have this in Tokyo, I don't remember they did.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Nick Cope says they did.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Okay, So I wasn't really paying attention this specific one.
We just saw with the mixed medley. I think it's
only the second, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
But it is fair.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
They're new.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
See, I don't have a lot of recall of Tokyo
because I was tuning in in twenty twenty and I
realized I was a year off because it was in
twenty twenty one. And I don't think many of us do. Yeah,
not many.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Also, the time difference was like for whatever it is
with France, the time difference to Tokyo was much much harder.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I just I have very little recall of the Tokyo Games.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's shocking for you, but I mean it just to me.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Swimming and track and field are individual things, you know,
and so when you're padding your medal total by just
adding all these relays, multiple relays.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I don't know if it's patting because everybody has the
opportunity to still win it.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
They're adding more for everybody.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
When you can't say that winning a relay medal is
the equal of winning an individual medal, but they're not
the same.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
I mean, I hear what you're saying, but I don't
know if I agree.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Okay considerably, considering in like the twenty twelves, twenty sixteens,
et cetera, when we have that amazing team with like
Phelps and Locktey and all those guys swimming at the
same time, it's hard for me to look at relays
and poop poo them. Well, I mean, I'll go back
to Mark Spitz when he won the seven gold which
was unprecedent in the seventy two Olympics four where individual

(11:15):
we won the hundred and two hundred meter freestyle and
the hundred and two hundred meter butterfly, and then he
had the relays and then he had the medally relays.
So he ends up winning four medals. And so what
Phelps did when he won the eighth is that he
won actually five individuals and then three relays. But I mean,

(11:36):
it's let's look at tennis. Right at the Grand Slams.
They have doubles and they have mixed doubles. Yes, they've
always had that. Do you ever look at winners of
the doubles in the same fame as those that win
the individual championships.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
That you do point out something, It's true, I'm not
paying as much attention to doubles unless it was Rafael
Nadal and Carlos al Kraz because they teamed up so
you're like, oh, how fun.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
And by the way, that only happens at the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right, yeah, but you're right, But I.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Mean the Williams sisters they won obviously a lot of
individual and then they would team up at some of
the grand slats. But to me, it's not the same.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
It may not hold the same, but I think it's
still as important. It may not hold the same to you,
but I still see it as important.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, my feeling is this now sports talk radio is different.
Teams are far more valuable than individuals. Yeah, yeah, that's
next level. If you can, if you could work it
as a team, that to me is next level. So
people are like, aren't you like a team guy? I'm like,
I've always been a team always be Yeah, I've always

(12:45):
been a team guy. But I mean that's just that's
that's just me. I mean, like I said, any athlete
that competes in the in the games, whatever the sport
may be, if you can come home with any medal
at all, some kind of memento from that game, I
applaud you. All right. Coming up on the other side,
these are games that have had a lot of controversy.

(13:06):
We're gonna break down our opinion on the most controversial
events of these Olympics so far. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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(14:08):
men's gymnastics.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
You also inhaled your slice of pizza like it was
an Olympic race.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
MONSI should know by now you've seen me eat enough
times that I inhale.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I look over and you're done. Yes, okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Jonas not the most healthy way to eat, but I
inhale food. Warm food is what I I want to
make sure that everybody as warm as the first gude.
So that's just the way I eat, all right. So
we've had controversy in these Olympic Games, and I and
I may have a little bit different angle on this

(14:43):
than some. So the big controversy involves two fighters, boxers
on the women's side. Both were disqualified from the championships
a year ago because they tested with a testosterol level
or you know, chromosome o x y. They by the way,
I need to you need to back up on this

(15:04):
story a little bit because those people that tested apparently
were discredited.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Right I read about that.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
So they were actually discredited for disqualifying these two women
from that boxing situation a year ago. So you had
the one woman from Italy flighting the woman from Algeria,
and the woman from Italy quits forty six seconds into
the fight. She later said, I've never been hit like
that in my life. It had been her lifelong dream

(15:37):
to compete in the Olympics for her father, but she
was not going to put her health in jeopardy. I
don't know if you saw that fight. I did, but
she really only got hit twice, right I did. There
was only really twice that she got.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Hit, and one of them she left herself wide open.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
For the hit right and she got hit on the chin.
She didn't go down, but she just turned actually twice
turned away, went to her corner. The second time she
basically said I'm done. She has, by the way, since
apologized to the Algerian fighter for quitting, which is what

(16:12):
she did. I don't know if the Algerian fighter has
her next fighter. Know she's fighting a Hungarian woman who
has made it clear that she has no fear and
she's not going to quit. She's ready to jump in
the ring. So this has been, by the way, controversy
in terms of women's sports in the Olympics has been
there a long time. I remember at the seventy six

(16:34):
Games in Montreal, the East German women's swim team came
into the arena and they were buffed out like you'd
never seen women's swimmers before. And the United States and
Australia at that point really had dominated women's swimming until
those games, and the East German women just wiped the
floor with our US women. And it was later disclosed

(16:59):
from the swimmers themselves that these Germans had really started
eight years earlier at the Olympics feeding their athletes these
performance enhancing drugs, steroids and everything. The women claimed they
had no idea because they were the state run operation.

(17:19):
They were basically told take these vitamins or you're not
on the team. And by the way, they did health
health ramifications. Later on, several of them had strokes or
died young, and it was a horrific situation. So this
controversy that we've had for many, many years about gender

(17:40):
identity and testosterone levels and women. We've seen this not
only in the Olympics but other sports as well. But
we are now in a day and age when we
talk about identity, right, this is something that's a big
thing that if you identify as a woman, you're a woman,
no questions asked. If you identify as a woman, even

(18:01):
if you're biologically male, you're a woman. Now, there is
one way around this, you know, and that is to
eliminate the separation events and women's sports entirely. I mean,
if you really want to if you really want to
go the next level in this. I remember Jamie Lee
Curtis won the Oscar a couple of years ago, right

(18:23):
supporting actress, and she was asked about, you know, winning
in this separated category between actress and actresses. She said,
why do we have separate categories?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Now, if you really want to go there, I mean,
if you are in defense of biological males. And I'm
not saying either one of these women or biological males,
I don't know if they are not. I do know
that they had tested, you know, in a way where
they were decued a year ago from a similar event.
But if you really want to go the extra mile

(18:57):
where you don't really want to differentiate between men and women,
and that we're all inclusive, that we're all one in
the sports world, because this is where most of the
controversy is in sports, then just eliminate it. Eliminate the
identity of sports. Let the men compete with the women.
If you're obviously a biological male who identifies it as

(19:20):
a female, you can be included as well. But that,
to me is the only answer to this. If you
want to be all inclusive and allow biological males or
females that have elevated testosterone levels to compete against women
that don't have those advantages.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Naturally, right, because this is a situation that they have
higher level levels of testosterone. Naturally, that's a biological advantage.
From what I'm reading, from what I understand so far
in the situation, you're.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
What you are.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
What you're saying to do is the only way I
guess to quote unquote fix this. But in reality, you
know that's not the answer. You know that there's no
way because let me tell you, I have tried to
beat my brothers in sports since I was little and
as an adult, and I can't beat them, not in anything.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Maybe in a game of horse.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
But I saw that were my daughter, who's younger than
her brothers, she's faster than him.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
She's faster.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, I've never I've never been a fast runner. I
can run long distance, but I've never been a fast runner.
But anytime I've played my brothers in tennis, opposite sides,
and they hit it as hard as.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
They can, man, they hit it harder than I do.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
They're faster than me. They're stronger than me.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
No matter what I tried to do to beat my brothers,
in sports. I've never been able to beat them because
we are not the same, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So again, if you're if you you can have it
both ways. You can't be standing up for the rights
for women to have an equal opportunity in the sports
world if you also allow biological males who identify as
women to compete on the same You can't have both. No,

(21:11):
it has to be one or the other.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
But I think that's what this situation is so unknown.
This situation nobody has the answers, and they're trying to
figure out.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
We do know the answers that if you if you were,
if you were born a biological male, even if you've
gone through hormone treatments or whatever, you still because of
your stature, your structure as an adult, you will have
physical advantages over women right period.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
But right now I think we're discussing two different things
because the situation with the boxers is not the overall
topic of conversation.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
When it comes to men and women competing in the
same sport.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Because these two boxers that we know of the information
is that they are biological women. So it's like a
they're a separate conversation and they're almost like an exception
to all the rules. Like, I don't even know how
to handle that, because it is a biological advantage that
they were born this way with extra testosterone. But they
are women, they're biological women according to how they've grown up, right,

(22:06):
But how do we handle a biological advantage? Now, the
other side of the conversation, which is what you're saying,
that's I think that's different.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I think we're talking about two different things here.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, we're also talking about performance enhancing drugs, right, that's
something else. We remember the sprinter Marion Jones who got
tested endlessly, cleared every single test. Her husband at the
time was someone that was involved in peds and then
long after her Olympic Games, she was found guilty. Yeah,

(22:35):
and she had admitted that she juiced the entire time,
despite clearing every test that she had ever taken. Look,
we get the history of these Olympic Games. We've had
track and field stars that have walked away with a
fistful of gold medals that absolutely cheated on both men
and women's side. Same thing as swimming. I remember one

(22:55):
year there was a woman from Great Britain, I believe
it was England who was on nobody's radar going into
the Olympic Games, and she walked away with three gold medals,
and her times at the Olympics were so distorted from
anything she had ever done before. And then she walked
away from the Olympics with their golds in hand. They
tested her, she tested clean and that was it. Of course,

(23:17):
there is no universal test for that, right. You have
to be testing for a specific performance enhancing drug in
order to find them. So what do you do? You
can scream she's cheating that. Who is this woman? She's
winning gold medals? I guarantee you she never gave them back.
I don't know. It's this gets back to me a

(23:37):
different thing, whether it's gender identity or performance enhancing drugs.
When you are watching a sporting event, I ask you, manzi,
does it really matter to you how they're achieving their
athletic glory? I mean, does it really ultimately matter to you?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
So I feel like you're not gonna like my answer,
because like in baseball, I like.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Your answers no matter what you have.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I feel like you're not because I'm not gonna give
you like a like a I a very clear answer,
because like in.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Baseball, I'm like, whatever you want to juice you juice,
go hit that ball. That's how I feel about baseball.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
But I feel that like in other sports, Like if
I was competing, let's say in volleyball or something, I
don't want to juice up because I know the disadvantages
of it. But do I want a girl to smash
the ball at me that's been juiced up?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Man, I might hurt my face.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
So you see, Like I'm contradicting myself because I'm putting
myself in the position where it's like I don't want
to go up against somebody in volleyball or in basketball
who may be juiced up.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
But in baseball, I'm all about it.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Juice it up, Fellas, if you want to go hit
that ball, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
See, so I'm contradicting myself.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I cannot differentiate. I don't know. Again, when we were
watching Olympic games, when we're watching track and field swimming, whatever,
these major sports are, these Olympic games and somebody is dominant.
I don't know if they're clean. I have no clue who.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Anyone that does do that knows that there are repercussions
and that there are bad things that could come of
it if you get caught. No, no, no, no, just
to your body, like doing that is not great for
your body.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Well, like I said, with these East German women, yeah,
from the mid seventies, it wasn't a pretty tale.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And so if you do that to a woman, they said,
they had no clue. They were just handed what was
told to them to be vitamins. And maybe they were
a little warmed that they seemed to be growing muscle
mass on their body, but they just thought it was
because of the hard training they were involved with, until
they walked into the swim arena and realized, why do
we look so different than all the other women?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Why are we so bulky?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, question for both you.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
Since I want to get back to this idea of
biological advantage, there's plenty of ink. Do you think Michael
Phelps had a biological advantage.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
From my obsertion?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
And he did, he did.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
There's been plenty of ink spilled on how his body
was frequently longer, which allowed him be better at swimming. Sure, likewise,
any NBA athlete out there have biological advantages over other people.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
When they're seven feet Yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So, like I don't.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
I think this is just barking up a tree that
we've already resolved and is a is a nothing burger
at the end of the day, Like there are going
to be people who are longer, taller, some with more
muscle mass, more testosterone than others. And in this particular case,
this woman did compete at the Olympics in Tokyo with
no fanfare whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
She lost back then too. It's like, I think she
want a silver medal at some kind of champ and
it's not like she's like, you know, knocking everybody out here.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
You know, this is just the nature of sports. Some
people are just bigger, stronger, taller than others.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
So do you believe that they should have any testing
for testosterone levels on the women's.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
See Well, the testing for testosterone levels is there to
stop doping. I don't think it's there to knock people
out just because you have a naturally higher level of testosterone.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well, and again, like human growth hormone, to accurately detect
whether someone is using human growth hormone, you would have
to administer a blood test every two days. What a
blood test every two days in order to basically nail
somebody for human growth hormone.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
This is why plenty of questions about whether or not
Peyton Manning was using human growth hormone. Right, you know
that was the Al Jazeera report that ended up getting
just smashed.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well again, I mean, we see athletes maintain their stamina
and their strength and their performance levels far beyond we've
ever seen before. And how are they doing it?

Speaker 3 (27:34):
And that's a really fair question. That is a super
fair question.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I mean, Tom Brady he went into reverse like he's
met Benjamin Button.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
He did.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I know he's down in South Beach, Miami. Yeah, I know,
I know. He added a lot of hair and that's
that's okay. Did that he's had facial.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Workout because he doesn't look like you're in there.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, he doesn't even look like the same person. His
jawline is completely different. I mean, but that's fine. I mean,
if that's the way he chooses, you know, more power
to the guy. Sure, let's let's find out what's trending
right now. This guy doesn't have to do anything, you know, he.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Is I do nothing.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I just sit here. He is a he's a picture
of perfection. That Cope is here. Okay, So Nick, yeah,
you have been. Uh, is there any sport that you've
seen so far in the Olympics that you really have
never watched before that it's sort of caught your eye.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Not really, I've always kind of just plopped down and
watched as much Olympics I can. When when they come around,
there's some I have a hard time, Like I was
talking with Chris with fencing. I know there's different types
and different swords and this one you got to touch
him with the point and the other on.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
But I boil the saber.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
I just have a tough time actually discerning what I'm
seeing with it happened so fast, it's like and one
person won, but I'm like, I can't see that.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
And they're all.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Appealing to the judges too. They everyone always thinks you
got the first tip.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah and both yeah, both both swords men or women
raised their hands triumphantly thinking they got but no, it
was one of them. That's the one I'm because some
people get really into fencing and I'm trying to get there,
but I'm just having a tough time.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, I I could. I could go through a long list.
I've tried. I really have made a concerted effort with
these games to watch sports that I normally would not watch.
And it's been a mixed back. I mean, I'm with you.
I mean some of them are just no.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Some I have sat down the archery was it archery?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Women's arch?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I watched the arch against who was it China?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I think one? But it was three on three and
with the you know, yeah, arrow type of thing.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I sat through the whole thing. I've never watched. I
sat through the whole thing. I was like, oh my.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Gosh, this is something that you would watch again if
it was not labeled Olympic Games.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think I was sold to.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Me suggests if you, if you could take away the
Olympic label, and said, I I want to see more
of that sport.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
I'm ready to watch a lot more rugby in my life.
After the women's sevens.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yes, yeah, that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I mean one woman, I say this affectionately, is a
beastmar I already know her name just literally runs over
these weeks. Give her an NFL camp on the right
arms I've ever seen anywhere that's very underplayed with running.
She was so the campbell. I had the greatest straight

(30:34):
arm of any running back I've ever seen in NFL history.
I mean, he got that thing for it, and it's
like a battery ramp. He puts you in the turf.
One one has done the same thing.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, and what sevens has going for it? I mean,
what those things are done in twenty minutes? Twenty five minutes?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Great? Yeah? All right, So we have a.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Lot to report from Paris, including probably the two best
female Olympians perhaps we've ever had in this country.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Let's start in the pool deck. This plook technis at
the end, eight one hundred still the lunch to the
run Katie Lee Tepus with a sold with the brons.
That's courtesy of NBC.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
So Katie Ladecki wins gold in the eight hundred free
style for a fourth straight Olympics.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I don't remember this. She was fifteen and won the
eight hundred free in London. She had been around that
was two thousand and eight. Twelfth, twelve, I'm sorry, twelve.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yes, So she's the first woman to win four consecutive
golds in any Olympic event.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
That's now nine golds in her career, the most by
woman in Team USA history. And obviously Michael Phelps has
the most gold of any but She's now tied Mark
Spitz Carl Lewis. That's the company that Katie Ladecki is in.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Nicely Don girl, and.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Simone Biles is gonna have a chance to get there
as well. She won the vault final earlier today. That's
now seven golds. She's got two more finals coming up.
She's got the floor exercise and the balance beam on Monday.
So Simone Biles could get to nine gold medals with.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
This is all said and done.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
And by the way, Biles was asked, hey, La, twenty
twenty eight, what are you thinking?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
And she wouldn't rule it out.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
She would be thirty one years old, which is I
mean for a gymnast, for a gymnas.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
That's like one hundred for the rest of us. I mean,
you don't see you get thirty one year old gymnasts.
But if anyone could do it, Simone Biles could do it.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Get through some of the notables here really quick. Shaker
Richardson won silver in the one hundred meters, Julian Alfred
of Saint Lucia won gold, first ever gold for the
Nation of Saint Lucia, American Ryan Krauser gold, and the
shot put first man to three peat in Olympic shot
put history. USA Men's basketball, they cruise pass Puerto Rico.
They get the top scene the quarterfinals, facing Brazil on Tuesday.

(32:50):
Women's soccer into the semi finals. They've got Germany and
that one also on Tuesday as well, and quickly to
the NFL Dolphins and receiver Tyreek Hill restructured his contract
and now includes one hundred and six point five million
in guaranteed money over the next four years, the most
guaranteed money ever pledged for a receiver in the league.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Back to you, all right, Thank you very much, Nick.
Much more of that to come. All right. On the
other side, we're going to get back to some of
the other developing stories. And when we use the term
goat okay, mat, can you accurately say an individual is
the best of all time? I'll give you a prime
example of this.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
This is Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
Steve Hartman and Monty Belanios. Here Fox Sports Saturday. We're
coming live from the Tyraq dot com studios. So I
saw that Simone Biles, Yeah, who became the first gymnast
ever to win the all around in two non consecutive Olympics.

(34:03):
We all remember the trouble she had in Tokyo where
she basically bailed out of the Tokyo Olympics and has
come back in amazing twenty seven years old, oldest gymnast
ever to win the all around on the lady's side.
So she was wearing this goat thing.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, necklace, and.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
There immediately I was thinking because and I wanted to
see you go to social media like anyone talking about this.
In nineteen seventy six, a fourteen year old Romanian girl
named Nadia komen H came on the scene, and women's
gymnastics had really sort of struck a chord with an
audience four years earlier with a Russian or Soviet gymnast

(34:46):
named Olga Korbett, but she didn't dominate. She was just
like this little girl with pixie and she just caught
the fancy of Americans. But Nadia Komenich became the first
gymnast ever to score tens. They didn't have a mechanism
on the score thing, so instead of saying ten, it
said one point zero zero now because there only would

(35:07):
be nine point eight, five or nine point nine. And
she became like the sensation, and she dominated not only
the seventy six Olympics but the nineteen eighty Olympics as well,
and from that point on she was the one everyone
compared gymnasts two. So now not ecomen Each, by the way,
has spoken out about Simone Biles and recognizes her now

(35:31):
as the next one. So she's been very gracious about this,
but it also represents a very different way the sport
is done. When Mary lou Rettin hit the scene for
the Americans in the eighty four Games in Los Angeles,
she was one that was more of a power gymnast

(35:51):
as opposed to if you watch a naught not ecomin Each,
it was more you know, artistic so to speak. I mean,
she could do things that had not been done before
on the balance beam and some of the vaults and
everything else. But it was not so much a power
sport as it was more a artistic sport. And so
now really with Mary lou Retten from this point on,

(36:14):
and then you have Simone Bios, who has just literally
taking it to a whole other level. So I'm when
we talk about go we do this with Lebron versus Michael.
And when you compare dominance in different eras, you have
to have it in the context of, you know, you
know what was going on in their era. So was

(36:37):
Dominie na company each more dominant in her era then
Simone Bios is in her era. I don't think you
could compare the two because their styles were very different
because the sport has changed so dramatically. This is why
I'm a little uncomfortable with labeling anybody a goat.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Well, obviously I have no idea what Nadia looked like
back then. I have no idea, but I think everyone
seems to be on board, including me, with Simone Biles
being the goat because how many moves does she have
named after her?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Six?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
You know her age, and she just does stuff like
her floor routine compared to the other two, which, uh,
what's her name? Sunny Lee Lee was also great, the
Brazilian great great, but Simone Biles was a different level
of a floor.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Routine, and I think we can just see the difference.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Again, I don't know what it was like with Nadia,
but Simone has taken it to another level athletically well
when it comes to the.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Far more power oriented the women back in the day.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
But she also is little, and she's also flipping and like.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, tell me us back what Chris was talking about.
Does Simone Biles have biological advantages over other gymnals?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Well, you know, gymnasts in general, if you start really young,
your your growth is stunted.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
That just happens. I did gymnastics. That's why I'm so sure.
I'm just kidding. No, I'm sure because my family is short.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
But you know, I tell myself that, so it's already
stunted when you start doing that.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
It is an advantage, of course, because.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
She she even though she's so athletic out there, she
doesn't look super powerful. She's you know, flipping seven times
in the air, twisting left and right.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
But I mean the power of her legs obviously.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Is light as a feather. She looks light as a feather.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Well you have to be, but I mean, you know
she does have some biological.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Yeah, so does everyone who plays certain positions in the NFL.
It's a reality of sports that there are built in
advantages on how you are built.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
When I saw Jonathan Ogden for the first time on
a football field at UCLA, the guy six ' nine,
he's three hundred and twenty pounds without fat, and you're like,
how is that fit? Yeah, and then the guy goes
on he dominates in the NFL, and everyone's like, his
head was like the size of two heads. Of course
it was, so he was born that way, yeah, and

(39:01):
so he has an.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Advantage, and you take advantage of your advantage.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Not everybody to be born like Andre the Giant. It
just happens, and there's just some people out there, and
you tip your cap to that exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
And I do think there is something when it comes
to goats with air in different eras.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I think that is a real thing.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
But I think with Simone Biles and gymnastics, I don't
think anyone's like saying she's not the goat at this point,
especially going from Tokyo to now, I think that's a
little fighting even more.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Well, again, we're talking about naty A komen H from
over you know, forty years exactly. Yeah. I don't know
how people remember her, but those that do have been
trying to make an argument on social media saying you know,
you know, slow down a little, like I said Nadia Koma,
and each has come out and shuttle time and exactly,
and she has acknowledged that Simone Biles is the greatest.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
But it's like forty years. So the fact that it took.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
That long, right way, these are once in a generation athlete. Yeah,
that's that's when you're in the conversation for goat.

Speaker 7 (39:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, there's a lot of good but not old goats.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah's got and she's goods.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I'm just wearing that little pending right around her deck.
All right, we got more Olympics coming up, and we
got a lot of NFL news, a Hall of Fame weekend,
we'll get to. This is Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Nick Cope,
rolling along on this extended version of Fox Sports Saturday,
Hartman and blos here. Hartman ands, we're broadcasting live from

(40:28):
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but I see you finish your pizza?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I did?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
I did? You did finish your Oh it's so good.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I couldn't eat another one. Why why is pizza so good?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well, pizza is one of those things it's really hard
to completely screw up, right, But there are next level pizza.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Of course, right, there's better pizza. But you bring me,
you know, the five dollars pizza from you. No where
I'm gonna eat it. Oh yeah, oh, I know I'm
gonna discriminate, okay to eat it.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
But there are levels to pizza.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Do you feel the same way about tequila? Yes, I'm
just asking everybody else with my red wine. You are right, right,
red wine. Then every once in a while I go
next level like silver oak. Yeah, one hundred and fifty
dollars a bottle.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
You know, I know you've mentioned it to me, and like,
I don't I almost drink.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Can you really tell the difference, Like, yeah, yes you can,
Yes you can.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I only drink cabernet. That's all I drink.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well, that's that. Cabernet is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
My favorite.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I'll have a red blend. I'll have Yeah, you know,
there's different.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Low and I like it earthy.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Apparently that's what I like Earth, You like Earthia as
opposed to Sweet.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Correct. That's why I was told you and I are
on this. We're on the same page.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yes, all right. So while we are have the Olympics
going on everywhere here watching multiple sports in our studios.
Also going on today are the Pro Football Hall of
Fame induction ceremony in Can't Ohio. Seven new members into
the Pro Football Hall of Fame. One of the interesting
notes is Steve McMichael, the former Chicago Bears great has
been suffering from ALS horrific situation, but his wife yesterday

(42:16):
was given his gold jacket and I guess they are
going to take the gold jacket and the bust to him.
Have they shown that yet? Has that been done? That's
already been done. So this was obviously a very emotional
situation with him obviously in a dire situation with ALS.
But they brought it to him because obviously he wasn't

(42:38):
able to come to the ceremonies. Look, I've actually twice
been to the induction ceremonies in Can't Ohio. I went
there in two thousand. My dear friend Howie Long and
I say dear friend because well we not only worked
together for the Raiders. If I want to go on
a little side note here, are you ready for this?

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Right?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
You have a little sight? Yeah, one of my little
side stories. So Howie obviously was one of the big
stars of the LA Raiders when I worked for the
Raiders in the eighties, and he retired in nineteen ninety
three was his last year. The following year. By this time,
I'm doing my radio show with Chet forty and we
were asked to m see an event of which Howie

(43:22):
was going to be one of the inductees. I had
just gotten married, and so I had Denise, my wife,
with me at the time, and I see Howie with
his wife, Diane, and I met Dian many times, and
I had known their boys. Of course, two of them
went on to play in the NFL, Chris and Cole.
So we're standing there, the four of us. I'm introducing

(43:43):
Denise and Diane. Long says, Dedise. You know I was
married to Steve for five years. Now, I'm like, but
you're like me and how He's laughing, and I'm like,
did I miss something here? And so how He says,
all right, Steve, I got to tell you this. So

(44:03):
when you left the Raiders in nineteen eighty eight, four
games into the season. Is when I left. I just
thought you were some you know, lame o pr guy.
I never thought you would ever really amount to anything.
So for the rest of my career I used your
name on the road, so because people knew his name,

(44:24):
so every game the rest of his career on the road,
he would register his room as Steve Hartman, and so
when his wife would call him, she would have to say,
Steve Hartman's room.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And so two thousand he gets elected to the Hall
of Fame. It was in Atlanta where it was announced
he was going to go to the Hall of Fame.
And I see Diane there, so I congratulate her obviously,
and I said, the question is does he go and
is Howie Long or does he go in to Steve
hart So I was there for his Joe Montana was

(44:58):
also inducted that year, and years later my dear from
Marcus Allen also got into the Hall of fan I went,
It's amazing event, it really is. It's they return all
the Hall of Famers there. They all have their gold
jackets and it's a celebration. If you're a pro football fan.
I've always put it this way because why else would
you go to Canton? Oha, No knock on Canton. But

(45:19):
you know it's not exactly mainstream. But if you are
a pro football fan and you walk into that room
with all the bust. John Madden used to say, the
bus would talk to each other at night, like the
lights go out and they would talk about football and
everything else, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
And it really is Awesomely, it probably feels different the
air walking in.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
It's crazy, like again, they have all kinds of displays
in everything history of the game. But when you go
into they didn't have it originally, but then they created
basically this huge room where they had the bus and
they're separated by the class and it's a little almost eerie.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
No, there are certain places you go to where I
just feel like you walk in and the air change
is and you just feel like you're in some special place.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
And I can only assume that you just get lost and.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
You be in a place like that and you feel
like I've been here an hour or so, and then
you look at you, I've been here five hours.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah no, that's you.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
That was me. So anyway, I'm one of those Hall
of Fame junkies, and that's well documented over the years.
But I want to ask you about a player that's
going to be eligible for the first time coming up
in next year's election for the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
and that player's name is Eli Manning. Now, I saw

(46:37):
where Bill Barnwell of ESPN, who's one of the best,
predicted the next ten classes for the Pro Football Hall
of Fame, and in the class of twenty twenty five,
next year's class, he has first ballot Eli Manning. Now,
he admitted there's a difference between who I think should
be in the Hall of Fame and who other people

(46:59):
are going to the Hall. So here's the question about
Eli Manning. So he played a long time, and he
stayed relatively healthy his entire career. He only once got
even a single vote for anything I think he got
as he got one vote for a Comeback Player of
the Year, he got sixth plays, never got a vote

(47:20):
for MVP, never got a vote for All Pro. They say, well,
he's a four time Pro bowler. Actually he was a
two time Pro bowler. The other two times he got
in as an alternate, which in my book doesn't even count.
He never won a single playoff game except the two
that he won Super Bowls in. No other year did
he even win a single playoff game. But those two

(47:43):
runs where his Giants not only won the Super Bowl
but beat Tom Brady and the Patriots in both of
those Super Bowls? Is that enough for Eli Manning to
be a first ballot Hall of Famer?

Speaker 8 (47:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Man, that's really good question.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
And in all reality, I think there is so much
weight on the fact.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
That he beat the Patriots twice. That's really what it
comes down to. I think that's all it is.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Why the answer is yes, And I think that's all
people will look at.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I want to get other people, Lee, what do you
think is in your opinion? Is Eli Manning? By the way,
the only statistical category he ever led the league in
was interceptions and he did that times times. Is Brett League? Yeah? Well,
but Brett Farv also was first Team. He was MVP
three years in a row. That's very true. Eli Manning

(48:41):
never got to vote for it, not only MVP, even
All Pro. He never got to vote. So I mean,
is the two super Bowl wins and again he was
Super Bowl MVP in both those justly or not? Well,
I mean, let's face it, who really beat Tom Brady
was the Giants defense. But that's a different story. But
I mean, do you feel like because of the uniqueness

(49:02):
of winning those two Super Bowls against the goat Tom
Brady is enough to give him a first ballot pass
into the Hall of Fame first ballot? No?

Speaker 4 (49:13):
But can you tell the story of the NFL without
Eli Manning? Absolutely not. You can't.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Or the story of the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
There you go, you know what I'm saying, Like, the
story the dynasty of the Patriots cannot be told without
Eli Manning. And that's why it just holds so much weight.
I think who you beat really does matter.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Chris, I see you pondering this question. It's question, is
Eli Manning worthy of being a first ballot Hall of
Fame I have conflicting first off, No, on the first ballot.
I have conflicting thoughts because I think you're misrepresenting it
a bit. And it's not just those Super Bowl games
with those entire playoff runs. Playoff Eli was a real thing. Yeah,
they won the games, by the way, they were not

(49:52):
you know, they didn't get a buye. He had to
win four games in each of those years to win
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (49:57):
And it.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I think there's plenty of good quarterbacks in the NFL
have stumbled into one. To stumble into two is pretty hard.
And I can't really then say, yeah, it's the defense
when we've also been justifying Tom Brady as the greatest
of all time, when sometimes it was the defense in
the run game for the Patriots carrying those Patriots teams
to super Bowls on the flip side, on the other side,

(50:24):
and this is what I'm weighing it against. And I
am going to pull this card. If his last name
was Michaels, if it was Eli Michaels, not Eli Manning,
would we be having this same conversation. How much of
a boost does he get because he is a Manning.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
That's a fair question to add, And that might be
a factor.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Oh, I think it's no question of factor. Plus he's
been very visible with his association with his brother since
his NFL career ended. Plus the fact he played in
New York, Right, it wasn't that. It wasn't like he
won two Supers as the quarterback of the Carolina Panthers
and again two Super Bowls as the quarterback of the
New York Giants.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
And As, and you can bring up Peyton, but also
again their father, arch Manning, being one of the greatest
of in and an indomitable piece of college football history
as well. It's just it's a name that carries a
tremendous amount of power. We had this conversation, I think
a little bit over Archie Manning when he was the
prospect for Texas about would he really be a five

(51:27):
star if his name was not Manning? And I think
there's some of that going on here too with Eli,
but I can point to a lot more.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I'm gonna lean yes he.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
Is Hall of Fame because I do think those are
tremendous playoff runs and playoff ELI is a real thing,
but not first ballot.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
His regular season record as a starting quarterback one seventeen
and one seventeen, perfectly balanced. Seventeen seventeen and as I said,
in the playoffs and the two Super Bowl years, both
times they were four and zero and the other four
times he got to the playoffs they were one and done.

(52:05):
Let's get Nickopa on this, Nick, where do you stand
on Eli Manning as a first ballot Hall of Famer?
I don't think it can happen.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
So I just pulled up a list here as you
guys are all been talking of first ballot Hall of
Fame quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yes, he does not know.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
There's no comp Yeah, there's there'd be no precedent for
someone with his accolades.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Do you have somebody, Well, the one that might some
people would point to would be Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly
was a first ballot Hall of Famer. Now, again, he
never won a Super Bowl, but he's the only quarterback
ever to take any team to four consecutive Super Bowls.
And he had a relatively short career, but he also
had a year where he was you know, first team
All Pro, and you know he had that five time

(52:50):
Pro Bowler. Well he has only three of those, legit. Okay, See,
I'm Pro Bowls are very deceived, especially with quarterbacks. That's
why I say Peyton Manning says four. He actually was too.
Donovan McNabb was one of those is all pro or bust? Yeah,
all pro best.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
And I don't care about Pro Bowls.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I only care about All Pro. Yeah. Well, Eli Manny
is zero. Okay, that's you're all pros.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
That didn't even he can't be it would be the
place for the runs, but he does not.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
It'd be unprecedented for him to be first ballot. Here
here's where it's hard for me because the only other
quarterback to win two Super Bowls who's not in the
Hall of Fame is Jim Plunkett. Jim Pluggett never made
a Pro Bowl. But back in his day, they only
selected two quarterbacks from each conference for the Pro Bowl.
Now they have three. So that's another opportunity for someone
to get a spot in the Pro Bowl. And I'm saying, fine,

(53:43):
you want to put Eli Manny in the Hall of Fame,
then you got to put Jim Plunkett in the Hall
of Fame. You got to put him in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Ah.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Now we find Steve's real motive, right, but he always
shows the true colors.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
And both the Jim Plunkett Super Bowl victories against the
Eagles and Super Bowl fifteen the Redskins super Bowl eighteen,
the Raiders were underdogs in those games, just like the
Giants were underdogs, and the Raiders won in blowouts in
both those games. Uh, you know, I look at it.
I always go back to can you define a Hall
of Famer? And Bill James, the famous baseball abstract guy

(54:20):
who did this exhaustive research in baseball history. He was
asked to find a Hall of Famer and he had
the perfect answer. He goes, a hall of famer is
someone that's in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
That's a good answer because you can hear not wrong.
You can't be wrong.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
If enough people think the guy's in the Hall of Fame,
he's in the Hall of Fame, he's not in the
Hall of Fame, then he's not a Hall of Famer.
So well, we'll see how that vote comes. All right,
we had the Hall of Fame game on Thursday. How
many people saw that game and the game itself was meaningless,
But something did happen in that game that could change
the game forever. We'll break it down. This is Fox

(54:59):
Sports Saturdy to Day Steve Harvin and Bonzi Beladio's Frock Sports.
That we are getting into such conversations that we're forgetting
about our job. Like your job, we get you a
side drap. Well, I'm the one that does that concept.
Conversation ever ends when I'm in the room, that is
for sure. All right. Once again, by the way, we're

(55:20):
can we can we share that video content that you
because we were talking about genetic advantage. I actually Chris
brought this up first, that you know, just human beings
in general have certain genetic advantages over other human being.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Knows who you're talking about now too.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yes, Mike, who was an avid listener, Hey, Mike tweeted
at us, responded to us in the conversation and said,
did the Olympic pole vaulter who knocked the pole off
with his genetic advantage?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Did you see that?

Speaker 1 (55:56):
That was pretty impressive in many ways.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
There's the official ruling on that from Steve. Pretty impressive,
pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
And in multiple ways.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Twofold that is, I can't imagine losing out on a
medal because of that.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
But if you lose it because of that, it's pretty
well wait a second, I mean you'll go back to
Olympic village and it'll be you who won. Is that
worth the trade off? That was the question? Yeah, would
you for a gold medal? Would you? Uh? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Swap He definitely has garnered more attention than other athletes
who have walked away with the medal.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Most likely, yes, he'll be the pole vaulter. Ironically, Anthony.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Anthony Amadi.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
All right, there we go, go for you. Sorry sorry
about your one but sorry sorry not sorry sorry.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Sorry that.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
All right? So the Hall of Fame game was Thursday.
I was I was disappointed. I was hoping Caleb Williams
would get summer.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Something, especially when they told us he was gonna play
in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
And he did not suit up at all for the
Bears in this game. So the game was, you know, meaningless,
no starters, nobody actually played. And I guess the argument
was it's an extra game and a bonus game, and
Caleb Williams is going to see plenty of action in
the four remaining preseason games for the Bears. But the
one reason I did watch the game, I was very
curious about the kickoff rule which was implemented. It actually

(57:23):
was part of the XFL, which then merged with the
USFL to create the UFL, and I had purposely watched
some highlights from the uf XFL when they used this
kickoff role. So if you did not see the game
on Thursday, this is the new kickoff role in the NFL.
Try to simplify as best I can. You're going to

(57:46):
have the kicker standing by himself. Yes, So he doesn't
have his ten teammates lined up with the kicker. They
have moved all the way to the other side of
the field, and on the other side of you you
have the one return guy and then he has his
guys in front of him. The two lines of ten
players are separated by only five yards. The concept is

(58:08):
based on you don't have those full speed collisions that
can be really dangerous in the traditional kickoff in football.
So the idea is the kicker wants to place the
ball somewhere between the goal line and the twenty yard line.
If he kicks the ball into the end zone, then

(58:29):
the receiving team automatically gets the ball at the thirty
yard line, which is not good for the defense. So
it was it was interesting because it was obvious on
both teams that the kickers really have been practicing on
his ball there. And I only saw one kickoff that
actually went into the end zone, so they were doing
a pretty good job. So the idea from a return standpoint,

(58:52):
and we were just talking about this off air, so
no one can move until the receivers caught the ball.
So those twenty guys that are five yards apart, ten
guys that have their back to the receiver and then
obviously ten guys that can see the receiver. So if
you're on the return team, it's not like you can

(59:13):
turn around to see if your guy has caught the ball,
because if you look around and then turn around, you're
gonna get blasted. So you gotta you can almost have
to react to the kickoff team when they move, you move. Yeah,
you don't have time to turn around to see where
your guy is if he's caught the ball. So when

(59:33):
I watched it in the old XFL, the idea was
you wanted to find that one crease because even though
there seems to be a wall of twenty bodies, if
you can find that one crease, you're gone.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I get through, there's only.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
One guy left the kicker. Kicker ain't gonna catch it.
So but none of that happened. They seem to cover
the ball. So are you a fan? And this is
a dramatic change, But the one thing we are going
to see is a lot more kickoffs and forget guys
just banging the ball out of the end zone like
we saw for so many years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, I'm not against it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
It looked funny at first, like the first time, it
looked funny, and it's because of what you said, Like
the backs to the receiver, they're like running backwards in
a sense for a hot second, but they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Can't look back, so they have to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
React to what's in front of them, and so it
looked funny at first.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
But then I was like, okay, this, you could get
used to this. You just have to get used to it,
that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
And I think it's a work in progress, but I
think it's going to lead to more exciting plays, which well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I mean you want more returns Exactly, the percentage of
kickofs that had actually been returned had been reduced to
near zero because these kickers just blast all the end
zone and you get the ball the twenty five yard line. Well,
now you do that, they get the ball of the
thirty yard line. Five yards do matter in this league.
But as far as the strategy of breaking a kickoff return,
I think this is something that needs to be developed. Yes,

(01:00:59):
So the best way, in my opinion, is is that
the kick returner is told you're going to go there. Yeah,
give them a direct right, and then our kickoff return
team is going to focus on that one spot. But again,
you don't. I mean, everything gets you. You know, you

(01:01:20):
design football place based on where you think the defense
is going to go. If they go in a different direction,
that's out the window. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
It's a bit of a work in progress.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I think teams are going to figure out how they
can't manipulate it to their advantage as they continue to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Try it out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You know, this gets to a much bigger question I
want to get to on the other side, if you've
been watching any NFL football, you may have noticed a
certain promotion, a lot more than you've ever seen before.
We'll get to that, but first let's find out what
is trending. So are you a fan of the new
kickoff rule? Nickope?

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Yeah, I'm glad to have a new element of football. Look,
it's always a chess match, right, but to have this
new thing to kind of think about. Like we just
talked that whole commercial break about strategy, about what had
been an innocuous part of the game for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Now, I'll tell you what was impressive. These kickers on
both teams. They were landing the ball basically get the
one yard line. I mean, the idea is it's your
one job. The ball has to be returned if it's
caught between the goal line and the twenty yard line.
These guys were inside the five yard line in front
of that goal line with every kicker.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
I remember some people were talking just theorizing, Hey, maybe
your kicker is actually a safety who's pretty good at
kicking who also becomes a tackler. But I don't know
if safeties are you know, guys of that nation. If
the kickers are going to do this good more to
your point, then they're proven their value.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Well. Based on what we saw in this first game,
the coverage team seemed to have the advantage. I mean
they the ball never got past that never got to
the thirty yard line on the return, so they were
covering it at the goal line, and each tackle at
twenty yard line, and again field positions everything in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
I'll be curious to see how teams get creative with this.
I was just watching a couple XFL highlights. They've been
doing this for four years going back, and they're able
to run a reverse on it and pick up a
touchdown that way, go all the way down the sidelines.
So there's there's gonna be a lot of interesting things
for these coaches to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Figure out to game plan, try to get.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Creative with it, Like if the Dolphins are down, are
you gonna put Tyreek Hill back there?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Are you going to give it? You know, like you're down,
this is your last plague.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Think Tyreek Hill just slowed down with all that money
in his pocket. Yes, look at that segue like that.
You are just a professional, my man. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Reports say the Dolphins and receiver Tyreek Hill have restructured
his contract. It now includes one hundred and six and
a half million dollars in guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Money over the next four years, So there's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
No added years to the contract, just giving the man
more guaranteed money, in fact, the most guaranteed money ever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
For a receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
NBC Sports says that among the sticking points and negotiations
between the Cowboys and quarterback Deck Prescott is the number
of years in the deal and any potential outs for Dallas. Basically,
how many years would they be tied to Dak Prescott
as they continue negotiations.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Let's go to the Olympics. Katie Ledeki.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
She won gold in the eight hundred freestyle for a
fourth straight Olympics, first woman to win four consecutive golds
in any Olympic event up to nine golds for her career,
the most by a woman in Team USA history. Ladeki
was asked afterwards this was her final swim in Paris.
She says she hopes to swim again in LA in
twenty twenty eight, but wasn't saying it. Wasn't committing to

(01:04:45):
it by any means. She was saying, it's really hard.
Just going to take it year by a year and
we'll see. But she did acknowledge the French crowd blanket
on the French swimmer's name, who had a terrific run
here over the last week. But she saw the crowd,
the whole in town crowd for the French swimmer, and
I believe she was tipmus No, that was the Australian.

(01:05:06):
That was the Australian fish. Yes, she's yeah, just the
crowd for Marshawn. She's like, hey, if I can make
it to LA like that'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
But that's any individual event in four second. I know
Carl Lewis did in the long jump out order was
a discus thrower did it in four consecutive Olympics. But
that is when you think about it, right, what you
got to be the best in the world in one event,
the same event in four consecutive Olympics is crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
I'm still blown away that she won it at fifteen
years of age.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, that blows my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Back in London and she says she's not counting the
LA Olympics out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Yep, she was just saying she wants to try and
make it because she saw what it was like for
Marshawn in Paris.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
She's to do that in La, so that that's on
her mind as well. Simone Biles.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
She's not ruling out La either, and Biles will have
a chance to catch the Here. She got her seventh
gold medal, won the vault final today, shot the floor
exercise and balance beam finals on Monday. Men's gymnast Steven
Netarasik Clark kent the pommel horse specialists. He got bronze
and the pommel horse. Today, US won gold in the

(01:06:16):
mixed four by one hundred relay back in the pool
that set a world record in the process. USA basketball
finished a perfect three and on the group stage top
seeing the quarterfinals. They get Brazil on Tuesday. Women's soccer
beach a Pan in the quarterfinals. Trinity Rodman scored an
extra time. Americans will face Germany in the semi finals
of the women's tournament there. On Tuesday, men's water polo

(01:06:39):
USA beat Montenegro. They booked a spot in the quarterfinals.
She Carrie Richardson had to settle for silver in the
one hundred meters because Julian Alfred of Little Saint Lucia
one hundred and eighty thousand people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
On that island in the Caribbean.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
First Olympic gold for the Nation of Saint Lucia. American
Ryan Krauser gold in the shop put first man to
three and Olympic shout put history. Golf real quick Xander Shotfley,
John rom tied for the lead. Final round tomorrow, Tommy
Fleetwood is one shot back and one note. In baseball,
Aaron Judge Homeward again his forty first of the year.
Yankees beat the Blue Jays eight to three.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
And water is wet, Kara Judge Homer and water is well.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
They actually he's started to get Barry Bond's treatment. Later
in the game, base is empty, two outs. They intentionally walking.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Yeah smart, This woman that won the I mean it
was the first medal of any kit for Saint Lucia. Yeah,
and she didn't just win any gold medal. She won
the gold medal. Fastest woman in the world. She's the
fastest woman in the world. Yeah, the hundred meters. I
mean that is you think she gets a heroes welcome

(01:07:48):
and she gets better, she better, she better and she Carrie.
I mean, she ran a great race. But this this
woman just blew her away. She blew she was fast
off of walks out to watch gone. You know, amazing.
Start great stuff, Nick, We'll talk to you a little
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should be. Now, if you were watching or have been
watching any NFL coverage, whether it's the NFL Network or
some of the games going on right now, you may
have noticed there's been a lot of ads for flag football. Yeah,

(01:09:20):
a lot, and they show both men and women playing
flag football, and the NFL is now directly involved with this.
We talked about this a couple of weeks ago, the
idea that the NFL may be preparing us for the
future of the sport. The flag football competition will be

(01:09:44):
part of the Olympic Games for Men and Women in
twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles. So here it's hard
for me because I played flag football as a kid.
My boys both played flag football. I love flag football,
but when I watch a flag football game, to me
it's it's like football. It almost it reminds me of

(01:10:05):
like ultimate frisbee. Sure, it just seems like a similar
type of game.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, it's almost like you want to name it something
else not football.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Wow, you're really reading my mind. Well, I mean on
its own. And like I say, you watch the ladies play,
and you watch the guys play, you still have great athletes.
You know, there's there's a lot of strategy obviously involved
in flag football, but it's not football.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
It's not. Yeah, I understand, but it is fun to watch.
But it's like, this is is a different sport? Is
it something else?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
You're not going to sell me on the idea that
in order to make the game safer, we're going to
eliminate tackling and still tell you it's football. It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
And to add to how like the NFL is really
getting involved. I don't know if you saw that the
Arizona Cardinals decided that they are going to produce and
local televised girls' high school flag football games.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
That fine, look at I have no problem with that.
I like I said, I like flag football, right, my
boys played it. I played it. You know, my friend
Eric Dickerson he said he played flag football until he
was you know, basically in high school, and then he
put the pads on and the rest was history. But
don't try to sell me that flag football is football, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Because it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Just call it flag ball because we just saw rugby
and rugby is more football.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Well, that's where football came, right, of course. I mean,
if we were to go transport ourself back to Princeton Rutgers,
the very first college football game in eighteen sixty nine,
it was rugby.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Was eighteen sixty nine, you wouldn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Well, we had one hundred and fiftieth anniversary just a
couple of years ago. Yes, eighteen sixty nine, Princeton and Ruggers,
but the sport they were playing was rugby, and we
called it football. There was a guy named Walter Camp.
If he followed any college football, you've heard the name
Walter Camp. And he was the guy that literally created

(01:12:05):
football as we know it. A line of scrimmage, all
of this was created by this guy named Walter Camp,
and that that's when football became the game we know now,
obviously with certain changes over the years, but you know,
a line of scrimmage and everything else I'm sorry. I
mean flag football is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Does not replace football in any way. It really doesn't,
and it should have a different name.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Are you throwing a football? Yeah, flag ball, But it's
not football, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
It's not, and it's it's still fun and exciting, but
it just it doesn't give you the itch that you
are I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Think about Friday night lights. Yeah, no, right, we have
people listening all over the country and we know many
people listening out there. It is part of your community
to spend Friday night at the local high school to
watch football. Oh yeah, I mean it is huge.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
And if you were to take away the pads, take
away the tackling, and just had a flag football game
on a Friday night, is that still it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Would not have the same effect. It would not.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
It wouldn't to be fair, to be fair and to
maybe lay fears that Steve that this is coming to
destroy football as you know it. We have a lot
of talk about rugby sevens in the Olympics, and that
is the format of rugby and Olympics is rugby sevens.
The full form of rugby is usually fifteen players to
a side. It's an hour long game, and it's a

(01:13:38):
lot more about possession. It's not these open fields. There
are always concessions made for a given sport to make
it palatable for the Olympics one way or another, just
because you were working with a limited period of time
of this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
So, like I'm just saying, this is not something they're
going to roll out to try to replace American football
at all. I know you want to think conspiratorially tows that,
but like this is the NFL likes this as a
separate thing, and they put a lot of emphasis into
this because men and women can play it. But it
is it's but again, in order for tackle football, for

(01:14:15):
lack of a better term, you have to develop young
people to play the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
That's very true.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
And if you're telling young people, we'd rather you play
flag football than tackle football, I mean we see at
the NFL level right tackling skills have diminished greatly.

Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
Because we're also dealing with realities that a lot of
places just don't have the money for equipment for football programs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
It's an expensive sport, no question about that. Okay. I've
heard from guys that are in the Hall of Fame
have questioned whether there is going to be a future
for tackle football in this country. So I it'd be
hard for me to accept. For some people, though, new
generations said, yeah, that's barbaric. Let's get onto something new,

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coming up in the next at Adam Kaplan, who is
actually in So Cow. I believe. I think there are
five teams that have their training camps. You have the Saints,
the Raiders, the Chargers, the Rams, and the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yes, that is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Fall here in So Cool. So he's here and we'll
we'll get an update on a very busy week for
him around NFL training camps. A baseball note and honestly,
this guy. I got to know this guy when he
came to the Podres a few years back. Blake Snell.
Blake Snell is a character.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Yeah, he looks like it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
And he talks like it, and you just can't help
falling in love with this guy. And he's had it.
He's had one of the most interesting careers ever. So
if you missed it, he threw a no hitter yesterday.

Speaker 9 (01:17:04):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
And there was a couple significant things about this no
hitter for him. First of all, he signed as a
free agent with the Giants in the offseason. There was
a lot of speculation because he was red hot leading
up to the trade deadline that he was going to
be dealt, and the Giants fortunately did not deal him

(01:17:27):
because his first start after the trade deadline was a
no hitter. That was his first win of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
That's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
That was his first win of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
This cy Young Award winners year try to last year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
So but here's even what was more remarkable. So he
has won two cy Young Awards. He won one in
the American League with the Rays and then last year
with the Padres in the National League. So very few
pitchers have won cy Young's in both leagues. Yesterday was
his ninth year, is ninth in the league in the majors,
and it was his two hundred and second career start.

(01:18:06):
Yesterday's no hitter was his first complete game, right, yeah,
so think about that. The guy has two cy Young
Awards and yesterday was his first ever complete game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Ever. It's pretty crazy. And it was so great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Is that possible?

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
And he even said it, He's like, you can't say
anything no more, not that he can't go out after
six innings, not that he can't do a whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
You can't say anything anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Well, obviously he was always capable of pitching nine innings,
but for some reason, Like he had that insane year
with a race when he won the Cy Young Award.
He had a sub two eer ra at an unbelievable season,
but he basically averaged exactly six innings per start that Yeah,
and so when he came to San Diego, I remember
what happened with the race in the World Series against

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the Dodgers where he was blowing him away. He was
blown away move and they yanked him out of the game.
And that was it. The words lose the eight. It's like,
what are you doing? And the pods are treating in the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Exact same way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
So now the Giants decided to actually let him finish
the no hitter and he did.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Yeah, it was he was so like he wasn't even
he didn't even seem that excited.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
About it, but he was. It's just his character is
very like quirky in a way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Normally you get the catcher sort of jumping on the picture.
This was sort of a weird dynamic between the catcher
and him. Maybe they don't know each other. Well, yeah,
we're supposed to celebrate, but everyone really know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
You do you want to be hind you don't want guys,
he'd never even gone eight innings.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
That's what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Yeah, and this guy had two cy Young Awards as
a starting picture. It's his two hundred and second career start. Yeah,
it's it's one of the I can't wait to talk
to walk out. I think his arm is still attached. Yeah,
it's fine. I think he's Okay. Here's a big guy
throws it. All right, we got more NFL news we
got to get to plus the Olympics. This is Fox

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All Right, We've had a fully loaded day with the
Olympic Games. I get excited because I told you before.
When I think Olympics, I think track and field. Yeah,
first and foremost swimming. I mean when I was young,
I mean that pretty much was it. The first week
was swimming and the second week was track and field. Yeah,
for you would go from one to the other.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Gymnastics. Gymnastics for me is what I think of when
I think of Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Interesting, Yeah, who is your favorite? I mean, is some
oone bias your favorite gymnasts or did you have others?

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
I mean I think now she maybe, but I was
telling you when I was little Dominique, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
It was Machiano, is how she would say it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Like I have vivid memories of watching her during the
Olympics with my parents, you know, like she think she
was like sixteen in the Olympics, and I think she
was one of the first that I was like, oh,
I'm a fan, I'm a fan of this gymnast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yeah, It's like I said, gymnastics really became big in
the seventies. I mentioned earlier Nadia Komenitch, who was recognized
as the goat until Simone Bios came along. But what
she did in these Olympics and still she has two
more individual possibilities to add to her gold medal total
at age twenty seven. At age twenty, people understand twenty

(01:21:54):
seven the body. When you think about gymnasts in general
and what their body are capable of doing. It doesn't
seem human.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
No, no, And I did it for a while and
I had a hard time just doing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
You know when I watch women on the balance beam,
Oh yeah, and they do like a reverse flip and
land both feet on that narrow beam, I'm like, how
do you practice that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Simone Biles did three I think in a row in
her How.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Do you practice that? Because you're going to fail and
if you flip over and don't land, I mean you
could seriously hurt yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
You practice with the beam, that's a lot closer to
the ground. That's how you start practicing. So the beam
is a lot you have to screw up, yes, but
that's that's how you practice. No, listen, it's it's incredible,
it is. The beam is ridiculous. It's absolutely crazy. But
there's been a lot of you know us Sean Johnson,

(01:22:56):
remember Sean Johns.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Jean Johnson. She was tremendous.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
And then there was not enough nad yet, wasn't there
an American?

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Na?

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Is that what I'm thinking of? Nastia? Yes, Nastia I
think is who I'm talking about. Yes, Nastiah, Uh huh,
that's another one.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I feel like we've had a lot throughout the years,
Nastia yes remember her, Yes, yes, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
You know when you think about, like I said, the
sport changed dramatically from more of an artistic style of
gymnastics to the power style with Mary Lourettin in nineteen
eighty four, she was like this little dynamo and she
just electrified all of America and she just became like
this hero and her style. Then you know what happens

(01:23:39):
is right you, then you have these young gymnasts and
now she becomes, right their hero, and that's who we're
gonna copy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
And then you want to push the boundary of what
your hero did. So it's like whoever's watching some own
biles and it's like, oh, she did seven turns, I'm
going to do eight when I get there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
We are going to be talking coming up here with
Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider. He has
already been traveling to several training camps and now is
in Soco where we have a number of teams holding
training camp. One of the teams that has training camp
the Dallas Cowboys, And you know, I was I've been
listening to I listened to all the shows here on

(01:24:20):
Fox sports because I want to get perspective from my friends. Sure,
and there's a certain guy that leads into our show. Well,
actually he led into our show today and you know
I'm talking, uh huh, and he was talking about the
Dak Prescott situation. Dak Prescott to me, as we try

(01:24:41):
to figure out the the economics of it for the
Dallas Cowboys, and I don't know if it's a good
or bad thing. It's good from a competitive standpoint, the
salary cap in the NFL, because it does make it competitive.
I mean, you have to understand how incredible this is.
Is The idea of equally sharing all the network television

(01:25:04):
revenue goes back to the days of Pete Roselle, the
idea that the New York Giants agreed to have the
same cut of the pie as the Green Bay Packers.
Otherwise there would not be the Green Bay Packers. I mean,
how would a team in Green Bay, Wisconsin survive and
keep surviving and keep surviving. It would be impossible unless

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the New York teams, the LA team said yeah, we'll
get it this. Yeah, but it becomes a jigsaw puzzle
for these teams. It's not every team has got a capologist,
and you know, you start to laugh at the idea
of what I'm telling you. They are the most important
people in these organizations because they've got all these different

(01:25:46):
pieces and they make it. That's the fit and the numbers.
The numbers have to add off, and so you're like, ah, okay,
we we take off a little here, we ad here,
and we need this guy restructure is deal. If he'll
agree to it, and then we can guarantee a certain
amount of money here, then we have to back it

(01:26:06):
then and then you end up kicking the can down
the road to the point where eventually you got to
pay up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
And that's what happens to many of these dynasties. The
Patriots are the perfect example. You know, they went to
four Super Bowls in five years, they won three of them,
and the Brady era ends and they were done. They
had to pay up and they had to gut the roster,
and you see where they are now. So the Dallas

(01:26:34):
Cowboys have got a guys, a lot of guys looking
for big paydays. And then you have Dak Prescott. So
Dak Prescott was runner up for MVP last year behind
Lamar Jackson, and then just blanked in his pants in
that playoff game against the Packers. Forget the final stats,

(01:26:56):
I mean the beginning of that game. Lee, of all
the games that you've ever watched as a lifelong Packer fan,
where would that game rank? Going in as an underdog
with your first year quarterback and literally blowing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Out the Cowboys in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
I didn't even have to watch it, knew what was
gonna happen. I was looking ahead to the next week.
We always have Dallas, it's not even a question. Well
everyone says they always have Dallas, and yet they win
twelve games every year, right, not against the Packers, they don't. Okay, Well,
this goes back to the Packers beating the Cowboys and
back to back NFL Championship games to get to Super
Bowls one and two the way back in the day.

(01:27:32):
Lombardy had Tom Landry's number back in the day. But
you know the idea that Dak Prescott has options like
he like he has the Cowboys over a barrel, like
if you don't pay me, and think about it, when
Kirk Cousins in his mid thirties, who's won nothing, gets

(01:27:57):
that kind of money out of the Atlanta Falcons I
know what blindsided the Vikings. I don't think the Vikings
ever thought that any team was going to offer Kirk
Cousins that kind of a deal, especially coming up of
blown Achilles that they did. So if you're Dak Prescott,
you're looking at the landscape, like, if Kirk Cousins gets
that kind of contract, what would I get on the

(01:28:19):
open market. So the idea that he's got the Cowboys
over a bear, and I love when he does this.
I don't know if we have the SoundBite, but I
heard the SoundBite of him talking about, well, it's different
from me. I have a kid, now I got to
think about the future. Yeah, I'm like, dude, you've already
made enough money to last multiple you have. This is
this is classic Dak Prescott trying to explain sort of

(01:28:43):
his current situation having a kid.

Speaker 8 (01:28:49):
Your perspective changes a little bit of life. A lot
of quarterbacks that have done that, And that's just the
business and the nature of this game. That's me not
being naive to that and to those potentials. And as
I said in that press, cont not something that I
look for or prepare even planed for. But if something
like that happens, I'll be most certainly ready for it.
I've got a ton of confidence. But that's also not

(01:29:09):
something that I, honestly I think about. I'm here in
training camp and focused on this year. I'm on a
contract for this year, and that's all I really care about.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
You know, what changes your perspective more than anything. Making
fifty million dollars a year, which is what he is now,
and now he wents I don't know, seventy million. I'm
not quite sure where he wants to go, where he
wants to go with this, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
You're right though, You're right though.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
He's looking at those players around him that may not
be as good as him, and they're getting paid. So
he's like, hello, But the situation is, I don't know
if anyone does want to pay him that much.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
You know how fortunate the Chiefs are that Patrick Mahomes
doesn't just walk in and say, all right, based on everything,
one hundred million a year? Yeah now yeah, now, ye?

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
I mean, how do you say no to him? Somebody
would give him a hundred million, but.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
He's taken the Tom Brady rout he is and he
was never the highest paid quarterback. And that's why those
guys win Super Bowls. Yeah, because they save money for
all the others. All right, we're going to get a
full update on what is going on with all these
NFL training camps. Our NFL insider Adam Kaplan will join us.
This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvey, Montsey Belangios. Here,

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Fox Sports Saturday, and we are love from the tai
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underway and this man is already crisscrossing the country. He'll
be everywhere. That's what he does every single season to
get ready for the season. He is our Fox Sports
Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan, who is joining us here

(01:30:46):
in so Cow and join the weather out here.

Speaker 9 (01:30:49):
Adam, I am Yeah, guy's good to be with you. Yeah,
I definitely am. I died to see the Raiders tonight
and where the Charges used to practice, looking forward to
doing that. So I'll see the Charge and Rams having
joined practice tomorrow before I fly back to the East Coast.
And yeah, I got things on our way here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
So Adam, let's go back to the Hall of Fame game.
And you know, we were disappointed that Caleb Williams did
not suit up for that game. It was like a
bonus game. I sort of get it and everything else,
but the one thing that I was anxious to see
was how the new kickoff rule was going to work.
I had purposely gone back to the old XFL who
had incorporated this rule. I was impressed by the accuracy

(01:31:30):
of the kickoff guys. The kickers are doing a good
job landing the ball where they should land the ball.
But ultimately, how do you think this is going to playoff?
The new kickoff rule?

Speaker 9 (01:31:40):
All right, So it's fascinating and as I've understood from
talking to some coaches over the last couple of weeks,
so the league has sent some addendums so clarity. Over
the last two or three weeks, they've sent all the
every team some updates. There's been some confusion and thea
to run through this in practice, and I've been to

(01:32:02):
You've seen three or four teams so far do it
in training came practices. So it's going to look different,
and I also did. I was able to be part
of a demonstration that was put on by the league
with special teams coaches at the owners meeting. So yeah,
it's definitely different. Having the dual returners the big thing.
And this is an adjustment and you'll see this as

(01:32:24):
you watch the first full week of games. Now how
much they want to show it means to be seen
of what they're definitely going to do, but you're going
to see the one thing that you have to is
so different. On the kickoff, the coverage team has to
wait until it's either touched or it's in the zone,
so they can't get in so the return zone, they

(01:32:45):
cannot take a running start like they used to. And
that is why the league thinks that returns will be
off fifty sixty percent. That is what they're estimating. So
this will be interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
And do you think that we're going to see like
Jalen Waddell Tyree Hill out there returning in a kickoff,
like if them buymy Dolphins are down last play here
they are?

Speaker 9 (01:33:07):
Oh, you know, I hadn't thought of that. I do
think though it's going to help some players maybe down
on the roster, it may not have made it almost
certainly make the team. And also one GM must tell
me if we've got some incredible coverage people, they've got
a better chance. Also if they're really really explosive, because
you're going to give up thirty to forty yards per kick.

(01:33:29):
A lot like that's just going to happen because how
long it takes for you to cover the kicks. Now,
it's going to be it's going to be much longer. Yeah,
I could see that. I could absolutely see your best
player or your most explosive player. But obviously there's always
that injury risk. Now in the playoffs, obviously you'll do it.
It's great thought. I had not thought of that, And
that's something you know, that'll probably start asking that you've

(01:33:50):
You've brought that up. That's something that I'll probably have
to ask and see if that's something they want to
talk about. I will say this much, a lot of
these coaches are a little bit secretive because there is
some pretty good strategy here because could be a weapon, no.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Question, Adam. Going back to my days and you've been
around as well, I mean, training camps has changed so dramatically.
I mean I remember when training camps started the first
week of July, they had this endless training camp even
before you got to the preseason, and now everything is
so abbreviated. Give us a sense now because you travel

(01:34:23):
from these training camp to training camp around the league,
I know you're with the Eagles and other teams. Just
how much has it changed over the last ten to
fifteen years and the way these training camps are structured
around the NFL.

Speaker 9 (01:34:38):
All right, So when I started my first training camp,
who was in nineteen ninety nine, I always remember that
Tom Brady's first year, my first year of cover of
the league, and those practice were two and a halfter
three hours. There were definitely two days, but it was
in the morning you had the teams were almost always
in pads. In the afternoon you had the special teams practice.
Then due to the CBA changes, you would only have

(01:34:59):
one practice. That practice would be two and a half
three hours. Now, I remember going to an Eagles practice
on in Nick Sirianni it was forty four minutes. I'm
not joking. That was forty four minutes two years ago. Now,
Siriani ironically had his longest practice of his career of
two hours as at Lincoln Financial Stadium. I was at
that one Thursday, going to see the Ravens earlier. By

(01:35:20):
the way, on Thursday, that practice and the Harbot Brothers
are like this. I look forward to seeing what Jim
does tomorrow with the Chargers. But John Harball runs practices
very long, the two and a half hours and they
do everything. And then also in that division, Mike Tomlin
two and a half to three hours. These are old
school coaches, so the time is different. How much time
they devote the special teams interesting, Monsy brought that up.

(01:35:43):
Some only ten minutes something they might do as much
as a half an hour because of because the kickoff change.
And I think it also I've heard from other coaches
that if let's say that down year, they felt the
practice were too light or too soft, they're probably going
to run longer, and not that they're going to hit,
but they want them to be more physical.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Adam, how serious is justin Herbert's foot issue?

Speaker 9 (01:36:10):
Anytime you're talking about plane of fascia, it's a lingering injury.
The way I understand this injury you have This sounds
kind of funny, but let me explain. So you'd rather
the whole thing tear off because when it tears off,
now you've got it where you want. It's just a
matter of wearing a pat on her it and you
could actually run on it. I've talked to players about it.

(01:36:30):
When it's a partial tear. It's nagging. It's actually someone
said it's a liking to step in a box of nails.
It's really painful. You have to back off. That's why
he's in a booty. They boy, the chargers are like, okay,
you know we're going to be r out in front
of this. We're going to back off two weeks. We'll
definitely be ready for week one. But you're worry about

(01:36:52):
this thing. We don't know the degree of the issue
on that foot. We don't know if this is something
that's going to linger for two three months. And by
the way, one thing about Herbert most people don't talk
about anymore. When he came out of Argon, he was
a guy that ran a lot. He just doesn't run
as much as he used to. And we know with
Greg Roman the offense coordinator for the charges of coach

(01:37:13):
Lamar Jackson and Colin Kaepernick the other mobile quarterbacks, I'm
very interest to see if that would happen, if Herbert
will run, But quite frankly, with this injury, I don't
see how he's going to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
All right, let's talk about Dak Prescott for a second here,
so we still don't have any extension on his deal.
Let's just talk purely from a money standpoint, and Dak
Prescott was talking about, well, you know, life changes when
you have a kid. I'm like, really, okay, thank you.
So if his end goal is just to make the

(01:37:46):
most money he can make, is when you start talking
about well, I got to think about the future, right, Yeah.
But if it's just about making the most money he
can make, what have he best for him to just
play out this year and hit the open market or
sign an extension of the Cowboys which would make him
the most money.

Speaker 9 (01:38:06):
Absolutely, wait, no question about it. If he signs now,
you look at a fifty seven to sixty million a
year obviously high spayd player in NFL history by far'll
it'll and the guarantees will be enormous. His agent, Todd Frands,
he negotiates very hard. I mean, he's one of the best.
He gets huge deals. If Dak wants to sign a

(01:38:29):
deal for sixty five to seventy million next year in March,
he can wait. It's just it's a fair question. And Steve,
it's funny you put it there because that's exactly what's
on his mind. Yeah, do I want to take that risk.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:38:42):
I understand major injuries are rare, but they do happen.
They converted five million of his double salary to into
a signing bones to say, a little cap space. But
he'll make thirty four million this season. It's it's not
the big deal because this is the last year's deal.

(01:39:04):
These big deals now. And by the way, if you
look at Trevor Lawrence is deal fifty five million, Jordan
loves deal. He got an extension off of one great
really it's really one half of the season, which was phenomenal,
but certainly a good year overall. I can't imagine he'd
do a deal now less than sixty million year. To
be honest with you that why would he take anything
less than that? He's approven quarterback. We could talk about

(01:39:24):
what's happened in the playoffs, but it doesn't only matter.
It's tenure, it's lent the service, and what he's done
the regular seasons pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Well man, my point that to me it was the
Kirk Cousins deal. Hey, Kirk Cousins, what is he? I mean, seriously,
I mean, who is Kirk Cousins. He's coming off a
blow Achilles no less. Yeah, and he got that kind
of money from the Atlanta Falcons on the open market.
I still believe that Vikings were completely blindsided by that deal.

(01:39:53):
I don't think they ever dreamt any team would offer
that kind of money for Kirk Cousins, especially coming off
the injury.

Speaker 9 (01:39:59):
Yeah, and that was forty f five million a year,
first year, fully guaranteed. And that thing is so biz
are we talked about step to the draft that by structure,
Michael Pennix, as long as Cousins is healthy, will not
be playing for twenty twenty six. And it's just unheard
of what they did. But it is really fascinating. By
the way. The Ceedee Lamb, you know, they they sent
a proposal with the last week and updated one to

(01:40:21):
his representatives so that we'll see how that goes. And
that deal you know you talk about, would be worth
him waiting. Ceedee Lamb's the Ceedee Lamb science. I don't
see how he takes less than thirty five miliyear that
justin Jefferson got. That's the thing about waiting. You if
you want to get more, that's what matters to you.

(01:40:42):
You could certainly get more, but then they also have
a franchise tag. Where's this is a little different with
Dak Prescott?

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
Who needs who more? Dak Prescott or the Cowboys.

Speaker 9 (01:40:51):
Cowboys, no question about it. Absolutely, they don't have the
future quarterback on the roster. They're just saying in the
National FOOTBA League with front offices, when you don't have
franchise quarterback, you're looking for one. You never want to
be in that position. This is a guy that got
right Monce in twenty sixteen in the fourth round. A
lot of coaches I spoke with who spoke to then
really liked him. There were a minor there was a

(01:41:13):
minor off the field issue that he was dealing with.
What kind of would it be a dropback quarterback at
this level? Well, you got to give the Cobbey's credit.
You know, they draft really well. By the way, they're
one of the better drafted teams. It's it's wagun contracts.
Sometimes there's there's a quality of the player off the
field which becomes a problem. There's a reason why this
team is not one of the playoffs, by the way,
very well in the last couple decades. Maybe the type

(01:41:35):
of player, but in terms of talent, they draft some
of those talented players.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
You just mentioned if you don't have a one quarterback,
you don't have a quarterback when you have two on
the roster. Right, what about the Steelers, though, I understand
that you want to have one, but they have two
quarterbacks that have different strengths. Could we see a team
approach the game using two different quarterbacks?

Speaker 9 (01:41:58):
Well, well, it's they are different, no question about it.
With Fields, you got the run game. Russell Wilson's more
of a scrambler and not less of a runner. Fields
has an enormous Armstrends very talented, but accuracy processing their problems.
This is fascinating with what Fields because I'm told by
someone who works for the Steelers. Boy, he's had some

(01:42:18):
days you goo wow, he said, some wow days and
then the other days. He's got to be more consistent
with his accuracy. And Russell Wilson, with a calf injury,
has been limited this week. They still say like they
fully expect Russell Wilson to be the starter. But I'm
interested to see what happens in the preseason because you know,
Mike Tomlin loves playing his starters. Its starters, the starters
minutes in the preseason. One of the few teams that

(01:42:39):
will do that. Kenny Pickett, by the way, and one
of the reasons why they thought Picket was going to
have a good season is he last summer. He was
really good in training camp and really good in the preseason,
but unfortunately it was he regressed during the regular season.
So you really never know sometimes, but justin fields is very,
very intriguing. He's just never been a consistent player.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
One final thing, it was a question we had earlier
on the show. Obviously, a big day Pro Football Hall
of Fame induction, Saramony is very emotional with Steve McMichael
being honored with als, surrounded by his former Bears teammates
and such. We're talking about somebody that's eligible for the
Hall of Fame next season. First ballot guy yay or nay?
First ballot Hall of Famer Eli Manny.

Speaker 9 (01:43:25):
First bout. No, I definitely not knew. You know what,
should he make it? That's a two time Super Bowl winner?
Is it tough? You really have to. You gotta look
at numbers and situations. Football is different from baseball, where
it's strictly numbers. It's not like that in football. It
is to a degree, but it's more how you did it.

(01:43:46):
It's a little bit more subjective. It's harder, Steve, to
be honest with you. I don't vote for the Hall
of Fame. I wish I did. I vote in two
polls every year for awards, but I don't vote for
the Hall of Fame. But it's a little bit harder
to figure that out. And by the way, that's why
sometimes it takes much long. Younger the players. You know,
Chris Carter had to wait, which sem ridiculous, but there
was a lot of jam. That's another problem when other
player's been winning forever and they then they finally get in.

(01:44:09):
But that one's ound easy. And by the way, Joe
will you look at Joe name of Summers and I
know it's obviously a different era. Dumbers were run great,
but you had an incredible Super Bowl he.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Did, but he was at least all pro ones. I mean,
look at Eli Manning's career record one seventeen and one seventeen,
and you take away the two Super Bowl years. He
was zero and four in the playoffs. He never led
the league in any category other than interceptions. He did
that three times, and in all his years in the league,
he only once received any votes in any award that

(01:44:39):
was Comeback Player of the Year. He finished sixth in
the voting one year. That's his sole award.

Speaker 9 (01:44:43):
Get in though, I'm going to tell you he's going
to get in. I'm just talking. I know he is,
by the way, voters pretty well, he's going to get
in something.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
And look at my attitude is there's another quarterback that
won two Super Bowls. If you're going to put Eli
Manning in, you better put Jim pluck It in. I'm
just saying it's reasonable.

Speaker 9 (01:44:58):
I mean, you know what, by the way, you know
that Steve could work for the Raiders. His career before
the Raiders was so bad. Yeah, it's what an unlikely story.
For those of you are Raider fans, are all enough
to remember Jim Plunkett first pick overall nineteen seventy and
people just forgot about what the Niners. He looked like.
He was totally toast. One of the most unlikely stories
that you'll see that after Football League. What an end

(01:45:20):
of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Yeah, they gave him up a boatload to get him
from the Patriots flat out released him, and the Raiders
signed him even though they didn't need a quarterback. He
sat his first year with the Raiders, did not play
a single down, and two years later he won his
first of two Super Bowls. So yeah, you want to
put Eli Manning in great, then you have to put
Jim Plunkett in as well. Great stuff. As always, Adam

(01:45:41):
head back. Enjoy your time on the West Coast as
long as you can.

Speaker 9 (01:45:45):
Sounds good. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
That's Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider. Now
let's find out what is trendy when Nick Cope all right,
so here you go. Just had to ask him that
last question. I'm sorry, bring it all back from earlier
in the show. I just had to.

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
We do have some NFL news today with the Dolphins
and receiver Tyreek Hill reportedly to agree to restructure his contract,
now worth ninety million over the next three years, and
it includes sixty five million in guaranteed money. Also, the
Cardinals say linebacker Bjojulari is out for the year. He
tour his ACL in practice on Friday days. Pretty much

(01:46:22):
wrapped as far as Olympics are concerned. You'll get you know,
the prime time coming up tonight and all the replays,
but all the action has done on this Saturday the
US won seventeen total medals today. That is the best
single day metal output for Team USA since Soul in
nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
I would have expected La in eighty four because we
had no Soviets or no East Germans to compete against.
We cleaned up everything that year. That was the Ultimated Olympics.

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
The Team USA leads the medal table sixty one total
medals in Paris their second in goal they got fourteen
to China sixth, so the Americans are closing the gap there.
Today he had Katie Ledeki winning the eight hundred freestyle
for a fourth straight Olympics, first woman to win four
consecutive golds in any Olympic event, now nine goals for

(01:47:14):
her career, the most by a woman in Team USA history.
Simon and Biles will have a chance to get there.
She won her seventh Olympic gold today in the vault final,
and then coming up on Monday, she will have the
finals for balance beam and floor exercise. Also in the
gym men's side, Steven Neto sik the pommel horse specials
she won bronze and the pommelhorse pommel horse final. Also

(01:47:36):
in the pool, the US had a world record in
winning gold in the mixed four by one hundred relay.
USA Basketball had no problem with Puerto Rico. They go
three and zero in the group stage, earned the top
seed in the quarterfinals. They're going to face Brazil on Tuesday,
and just got where that's going to be at three
point thirty Eastern on Tuesday, Americans the number one seed,
potentially going to play Serbia again in the semi finals

(01:47:59):
if the favorites win, and then women's soccer they are
in the semi finals. They beat Japan, got a goal
from Trinity Rodman in extra time. The US to play
Germany in the semi finals on Tuesday. Women's tennis, China's
can win. Jiang beat Donavenkch of Croatia to win the
gold medal. You're gonna have tomorrow. In the men's gold

(01:48:20):
medal match, Novak Djokovic and Carlos al Karaz they're gonna
play again at Djokovic's long wanted that Olympic goal. He
hasn't gotten it yet. Men's water polo US beat Montenegro
to book a Spa in the quarterfinals. America and Vincent Hancock.
He won his fourth Olympic gold in skeet shooting. So
there's one of those fourteen goals for the Americans in

(01:48:43):
who skeet shooting?

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
You know, pull and then bang with the shotgun. I
actually watched a little that the other day. I didn't
watch him see it. You can't see anything. It's just
like I can't see the shoots and I usually like
you see the you don't even see you don't see
the thing moving. I just see the poof of pink smoke.
What's called what's it called again? Skeet shoot?

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Nicely done.

Speaker 5 (01:49:10):
I think Vincent Hancock needs that as like his walkout.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
That's his walkout song.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
Because he's won four Olympic golds in skeet shooting. She
Carrie Richardson had to settle for silver in the one
hundred meters dash. Julian Alfred of Saint Lucia won gold,
giving Saint Lucia their first ever Olympic medal. American Ryan
Krauzer gold in the shot put, first man to three
peat and Olympic shot put history.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
He got.

Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
Xander Schoffley's gonna have a chance to go for gold tomorrow.
He's tied with John Rahm at the top of the
leaderboard in the golf tournament finals. In baseball, Yankees beat
the Blue Jays eight three, Aaron Judges forty first homer
of the year. Cardinals rally to beat the Cubs five
to four. Nationals hung on against the Brewers six to four.
Take it away.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
How about that Xander Shotfley, I mean, obviously went two
majors this year after never winning before, and he won
the Olympic Gold the last time.

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
So who's got the better year between Schoffley, I say Schaffly.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
I mean, Scheffler obviously has had an insane year. He's
won six tournaments Masters, he won the Masters, as Shoffley
gets the gold, that might trun I mean I've seen,
you know, I watched the Golf channel, you know, and
they break down his stats like tea Green, like on
par with the best seasons ever, like Tiger at his peak.

(01:50:30):
The difference is the putting, you know, where he hasn't
gotten to that Tiger level, but his tee to Green
numbers are off the charts. Golf. If you win two major,
first of all, it's rare to win two majors in
the same year, but then you add the Olympic gold
for the second consecutive Olympics. Sorry, sorry, Scott, he give
it to Zander. Sure, yeah, there you go, Sanders Shoffley,

(01:50:52):
right there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Golf.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
First of all, as much as I was back to
the golfers and the tennis players, these are completely mini
less in the Olympics. Here, here's my here's my problem
with the Olympics. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna voice this
other one. Okay, when you when you're constantly adding sports,
when you're constantly adding events within the same sport, you

(01:51:21):
cheap in the honor of winning the gold medal. I
mean one of the one of the points I've always made,
like the Emmy Awards. Okay, this is laughable. Now, I've
done television for a number of years locally in Los Angeles, right,
and a couple of times my my station has come
to me with the idea that we like to nominate

(01:51:41):
you for an Emmy.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
A daytime Emmy.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
Well, no, it's it's like a local locals, right, And
I'm like, well great, and they're like, now you have
to give us three hundred dollars and.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
I'm like what, I'm sorry, squeeze.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
I say, you mean I have to pay to be
eligible to win an award. I'm not paying two cents
for an award I would why do I care. I'm
not gonna pay for that you're talking about. I don't
know that that's right. And so in the Emmys over
the years, I mean, I don't know anyone that doesn't
have one. I have friends that have like a dozen
of these years, and they just keep creating new categories.

(01:52:15):
They have categories. I can't even can't even explain what
these categories are. That's one of the reasons I like
the Oscars. The Oscars doesn't create new categories. They only
have twenty something categories and it doesn't change. So, you know,
when the idea of more is better maybe in some things,
but when you just keep creating new sports or adding

(01:52:35):
new events in the same sport, the honor of winning
a gold medal is not or any medal is not
what it used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
But this isn't every year.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
I feel like it's a little different than the Emmys,
because you're right that everybody has an Emmy. I know
so many people who do. Everyone has one, but I
can different. Okay, we'll get.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
You one, SAMAI cool. This is not every year.

Speaker 7 (01:52:58):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
I mean, doesn't I mean again. This is why I
get back to these relays. They keep creating new relays
in track and field and sweet because relays are fun, Steve,
They're fun. Yes, you're the only ones not enjoying them.
They're winning a medal in a relay is the equivalent
of winning a medal in it, And tell they're fun

(01:53:20):
and enjoy them, that's all. But if you win a hundred,
I mean, how many of Phelps's twenty three were in relays?
Do you want to talk?

Speaker 9 (01:53:31):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Don't? We have to look it up? But I also
know he's won a lot of individual gold over the years.
He's won twenty eight total medals, twenty three gold. How
many of those were relay medals? I mean, it's impressing. Yeah,
all right, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to
do a little math. On the other side, though, it
might be a question you get asked me, who's your daddy?
Don't ask that question because I don't know the answer.

(01:53:53):
It is that much awaited time to find out who
is my daddy. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
It is Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
I am Monty Alanio's here with Steve Hartman, and we
are coming to you live from the tireg dot com studios,
and after a week hiatus, we are back with our
favorite segment, the wise one.

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
They say, what's happening, daddy?

Speaker 7 (01:54:17):
We'll see about that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
We gotta know who's your daddy, Daddy, you can call
me daddy, daddy, dadday.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
All right, So this is our segment where we try
and stump Steve Hartman because he just knows everything. If
you stump him, you get to be his daddy, because
Steve Hartman is everyone's daddy.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
This turns out way before we do that, though. Nick
did a little addition here on Michael Phelps twenty three
gold twenty eight total medals. Yeah, what was the breakdown
of individual versus relay? So ten of his twenty three
gold our relays? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:54:53):
And then yeah, and so I'm trying to do the
quick So was that twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
Of twenty of twelve of twenty eight? O all yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
Almost yeah, almost half on both crazy. Yeah, you want
to take all that away from him because.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
It will already taken away from him, most likely could
be taken away from the guys that were on the
relay team with him. Would they have gotten those They
want to take those away to Michael Felps. So, but
the fact that he won sixteen individual medals, thirteen gold
individual it is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
Still my going. All right, let's get going. We're going
to start it off here.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
Steve Harmon, how many rushing yards did Dan Marino have
in his career?

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
Wow? In the exact number or give me an idea idea? Well,
I know it's not many because pretty much he took
a knee and that was that's the extent of his
rushing I would say it's less than I'd say it's
I'll say it's less than fifty yards.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
Very close, but more than.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
Fifty eighty seven in the seven.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Yards seven yards.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
That's more than I thought because understand, in the NFL,
unlike the college game. College game, you gets sacked, that's
considered a rushing attempt. Not in the NFL that's a sack.
So okay, well, that's a good you got me. I
thought it was under fifty to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Well, I mean, it wasn't a lot. It was not
a lot, all.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Right, definitely under one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Let's go to our producer of the Daily the last.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
Well, Steve, you proked my ears a little bit when
you said that the oscars don't add categories, but they
have of course added a few. Since nineteen forty eight,
there's been two added, and there's one coming up. Can
you name the two that were added since nineteen forty
eight and the one coming up in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Since nineteen forty eight, the ones that were added were
makeup yep, which of course is makeup and hair styling,
and makeup and hair styling and animated feature that is
correct back in two thousand and one yep. And then
the new one is going to be casty that is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
He's so annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
So there you go. There there's my oscar trivia.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
So he's your daddy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Sorry, okay, I'm proud to have Lias a such Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Iowa Sam, who is now on the ones in.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Two's Ears, Heyo, all right, Sam, you want to go
to next? Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:57:12):
All right, so you Steve. You know, I'm a Roy
Scheider super fan.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Love the guy.

Speaker 10 (01:57:17):
He was Sheriff Martin Brody or sorry, chief Police Martin
Brody and Jaws. But he's been in a he has
been a bunch of movies back in the seventies and
eighties and nineties. All Right, here's a question about Roy
Scheider's career. He was nominated for Best Actor in a
Leading Role and Best Actor in a Supporting Role.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
Give me the movies. That he was nominated for Best
Actor was all that jazz and the best Supporting Actor
was for French Connects. Sam dragged me to the Sorcerer.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
That was great goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
He loved it, alright, Sorcerer, just sorcerers.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
Steve is also Daddy Nick.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:57:56):
So on the heels of Julian Alfred winning one hundred
meters dash for Saint Lucia. What is the smallest nation
by population to win a gold medal in the Olympics. Wow,
I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:58:15):
Wow. Smallest nation population wise to win a gold medal
in the Olympics, Uh, Trinidad Tobago.

Speaker 5 (01:58:28):
Nineteen eighty Lake Placid alpine skiing. Hannie Wenzel of Lichtenstein,
Lickodnstein has got fewer.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
Than Trinidad Tobago. I was saying about Hazley Crawford won
the Olympic gold medal one hundred meters with Trinidad Tobago.
But you're saying that Lichtenstein. I never know that. I honestly,
I thought about lichten Seang because it's so notorious for
having the but I never dreamt they actually want yep
alpine skin and Lake Placid. They've got under forty thousand

(01:58:58):
people living there. Trinidad and tobey Go's got one point
five million, so they're different. Yeah, that's Ammuda Bermuda a
close second.

Speaker 5 (01:59:06):
They've got mid sixty thousand. They just got a gold
medal in the Tokyo Game.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
So now our new nation to win a gold medal
is where how many people they have? The new ones?
What is it? Saint Lucia.

Speaker 5 (01:59:18):
They got one hundred and eighty thousand, so still a
bit more than Linchton's son.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
But all right, well that makes you my daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
By the way, I want to remind you, Nick, if
you become my daddy, I expect a good allowance. If
you're gonna be take care. That's part about being a daddy.
That's the allowance as a daddy of three. Believe me,
how much money I had to be over the year
seem's the mint. My brain is just spinning with those

(01:59:47):
numbers printing press. All right, well that was pretty good.
That was pretty my daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Yeah, finally I never get it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
That was very very good. But the Oscar questions right
down my out. Yes, thank you so much. I will
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Speaker 7 (02:00:30):
I am.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
I am not anti Olympics in any way. If anything,
I've been in an Olympics fanatic since a very early
stage of my life. I bought books on the Olympics.
There were books, you know, way back in the day
that would list I remember the first book I ever
got that actually listed medal winners outside of gold. I

(02:00:53):
mean this was thrilling for you know, a guy like me,
you know, and I'm like, oh, this person won the silver,
this one person wins a braw And so I've always
been an Olympics fan. I just I just sometimes there's
just too much, right, It's I mean, am I right?

Speaker 5 (02:01:09):
As a just I would remind you Steve. Two thousand
and eight Beijing, Michael Phelps breaks the record with an
eighth gold in a relay event. Would you rather not
have that?

Speaker 7 (02:01:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
But I will say this also so when Mark Spitz
went seven for seven, three of those were relay golds
as well for him. Two of the gold medals for
Phelps individually were in what they call medley events that
did not exist back in nineteen seventy two when Mark

(02:01:45):
Spitz was competing. Mark Spitz was in the freestyle and
the butterfly. Those were his two areas of expertise. Obviously,
when you talk about a medley event, you have to
do all four strokes, including the butterfly, the backstroke, and

(02:02:05):
the what is that freestyle and breaststroke.

Speaker 5 (02:02:10):
I'm doing charades through the glass and everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
I wanted them to get them. When you watch the
breast stroke, I've never understood that. I actually so inefficient.
It really is. It's not really a stroke, is it.
I mean the freestyle speaks for a self backstroke. I've
tried the butterfly, you know, I tried that. It's at
its really hard to get your arms out of the

(02:02:34):
you know, I have broad shoulders, and so I thought, okay,
but just getting your arms out of the water in
that stroke as difficult. But I don't even understand the breaststroke,
like what you sort of bobble up and down and
you're going underneath. It just seems like it would be
such an easy stroke to sort of cheat on, you know,

(02:02:55):
because a lot of it is happening under the water
and share, Yeah, are you a good swimmer?

Speaker 2 (02:03:01):
No? No, I mean I can swim.

Speaker 3 (02:03:03):
I can swim, but I've like told my friends, like,
if we're ever on a boat and we are stranded
somewhere in the water, somebody needs to help me, like
totally me back because I'm probably a mid swimmer.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Like, I can swim, but I'm not great.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
My oldest son, Drake, when he went to high school,
he wanted to play a sport. He wasn't sure and
we thought physically he was really built for swimming, uh huh.
And the big advantage he has he has size fourteen shoes. Wow.
And so by the end of his freshman year, he
was actually voted the most improved swimmer on the team.
So they were really excited about his future. And then

(02:03:41):
the water polo coach came in and said, no, he's
playing water polo.

Speaker 2 (02:03:44):
I was going to say, yeah, you talk about.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
A sport where it is obviously a big advantage they
have because you can only catch the ball one hand.
You can't put both hands on the ball at all time.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
Like if I catch it with one hand, I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
Yeah, you can put it on the water, but you
can only control with one hand. What Yeah, And the
other part of it is you got to stay above
the water the whole time. And when you have big
flippers like he did, it was easy to sort of
raise himself up. But I mean, again, when I'm watching
these athletes, these young athletes, and what they're capable of doing,

(02:04:18):
I mean, gymnastics is like ridiculous, right, But I mean
when you watch track and field, how fast you can run,
how high you can jump or throw things. I mean,
it just it's mind boggling. It is what the human
body is capable of doing.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
And people have always said this, and I really feel
like they should try and find a way put a
smaller screen of an average person trying.

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
To do that so that you can really see.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
Put me swimming next to them, so you can actually
see how good they are, because I feel like sometimes
we don't appreciate it because you don't know, well, what
can the.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
Average person do here? And it's like it's so far
how great the athletes are.

Speaker 3 (02:05:00):
So I feel we should put a little small screen
and put an average person doing all of the things
they're doing well.

Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
I personified the average person in terms of athletic ability.
I was in zero athletic ability. I had decent hands
and everything else, I had no footspeed. I mean, if
you don't have wheels, it really becomes difficult to play
almost any sport. That really happens. As I mentioned, I
went to high school with Jeff Fisher, of course, played
in the NFL briefly, longtime NFL coach. Jeff's the same

(02:05:28):
height as me. I mean we knew each other since
you know, high school, and I'm like, why is he
so different than me? But I mean he could run
like I mean, he had wheels right, and he could
just do things with his body. And I'm like, we're
basically the same, but we're not even close to being
the same. So, as someone that has covered sports my

(02:05:49):
entire life, a I have insane respect for athletes in
general because it's just something I'm not capable of. And
then when you take it to the next level on
a stage like the Olympics or any stage where you
got the absolute best of the best in the world,
I just I'm mesmerized. I can't believe it. Yeah, no,

(02:06:11):
for real.

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
And watching sports that you're not familiar with, yep, even
more impressive like water rafting, like the girls that you
have to go through like these it looks like like
I don't know markers that they have to go through
the markers, but sometimes they're fighting against the current.

Speaker 2 (02:06:27):
Oh, I don't know how they do that. I don't
know how they do that and do it quickly. I
am just mesmerized by that this morning.

Speaker 1 (02:06:38):
So at my stage, you know, I try to keep
in reasonable shape for my age. Really great and thank
you and I but I work at it, yeah, of course,
and so I do stuff on my own. But I
also have a trainer, and he's a younger guy, and
he's actually a competitive like body builder type, Like when

(02:06:58):
he trains to do that, he really gets it down
and sometimes I feel like he gets me caught up
in what he's trying.

Speaker 2 (02:07:04):
To do uh, and you're like yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
So I'm like this morning, I'm with him, right, and
I'm doing some exercises that you know, are really gassing me.
And so at the end of this, he wants me
to get on this special cycle and do this full
on sprint. So I'm like on it for like a minute,
you know, going at a decent pace, and now he
wants me to do like this forty second, like faster, faster, faster.

(02:07:30):
I literally thought I was gonna pass it today, Like
I was breathing. This was this morning. I was like,
He's like, breathe through your nose. Are you gonna pass out?
Don't say that to me? Right, You're like sh and
he's trying to catch my breath. My heart is pounding,
and I'm thinking this can't be good for me. But
then I'm thinking, like this is what these these are

(02:07:51):
How these athletes train. They can get their bodies to
the level where they're not even requiring an ambulance to
take them away from their workout, Like I felt like
I was going to have this morning, and that alone
just sort of blows me away.

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
It's true, It's true because they're doing that multiple times
a day.

Speaker 1 (02:08:08):
Like nothing like they were watching today. Can I can
you open Nick cops Mike for a second. So Nick,
we were watching this is new where you have these
medley you have these relays, mixed relays now with men
and women. Uh. And it was a four by four
hundred relay. Is that correct?

Speaker 5 (02:08:27):
It was a four by one mixed medal three or
by one hundred down and back each for each swimmer.

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
Oh no, no, I'm talking about track and field. Oh, track
and field. Yeah, excuse me, yes, I'm so that was
a four x four hundred relay with two men two
women on each creat And like watching, the United States
had a lengthy lead and all the teams seem to
have a female.

Speaker 5 (02:08:55):
It seemed the Yes, it seemed it when it was
a male female male female from one I saw everyone had.

Speaker 1 (02:09:01):
A female anchor for the last leg. And the running
of four hundred meters, which is the most brutal of
all races. The four hundred meter is Is it a sprint?
What is it? Hey? It's one lap, It's not the
two hundred meters, not the two hundred meters. It's a
it's sort of like a basically a sprint if you
can keep it up for a quarter of a mile

(02:09:22):
is what four hundred meters is. And the US woman
who was young girl, she was like nineteen, right, she
just literally hit the wall coming down the stretch. And
this woman from the Netherlands, she didn't even look like
she looked like she was just running like nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
Yeah, and she just.

Speaker 1 (02:09:39):
Blew right by the US girl and ends up winning
the gold medal for a Netherlands And you're watching her
and she's like, our teammates are sort of waiting for
her at the finish line and she's like waving it
and it's just like that's insane. I mean, how does
your body get to that level where you can run

(02:10:01):
that far that fast and barely break a sweat?

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
Yeah, like your body doesn't even realize it. I mean
watching Simone Biles and Sumi Lee with their beautiful makeup
on and then they're done and their makeup.

Speaker 2 (02:10:13):
Still looks flawless.

Speaker 3 (02:10:14):
Yeah, no sweat, no sweat, like maybe a little perspiration
right above the nose, but that was it, Like they
weren't sweating.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
They looked at flawless after it, and I was like, how,
how how do you do that?

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
I just don't know. I don't get it. So it
is a marvel and we've been enjoying the Olympic Games,
as I'm sure a lot of people have. I'm anxious
to see the numbers. Obviously, it was very difficult with
the Tokyo Games. A they were postponed for a year
m m and then just the time differential made it
very very difficult to follow those games. I would imagine

(02:10:45):
the Paris Games are going to do pretty well.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
Yeah, it seems that way.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
And I don't know are they going to like combine
the viewership because like right now they're playing replaying the
men's basketball.

Speaker 1 (02:10:55):
See this is Uerta Rica. Yeah, this is where it's
confusing to me what is live and what is.

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
Yeah, this is not live.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
But does this count, as you know, first time viewership because.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
Of the time.

Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
Well, by the way, you do understand, the most watched
Olympic event, by far in the history of the Olympics
was the Nancy Kerrigan. Tanya Hardinge was on tape. It
wasn't live, and it put up numbers that rivaled Super Bowls. Well,

(02:11:28):
it is by far the most watched single event in
the history of the Olympics, and nothing's even close.

Speaker 3 (02:11:36):
I'm not surprised and it wasn't live yeah, based on
the situation.

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
But the situation leading up to it, everybody wanted to see. Yeah, yeah,
that was an unbelievable story. We like drama, oh, we
do love drama all right. Coming up on the other
speaking of drama, we're going to get back to some
NFL news right now, some big decisions for some teams
as they get ready for the twenty twenty four season.
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football coming up this week. In the NFL, we only
have the three weeks now of preseason since we went
to the seventeenth game. By the way, it won't be
long mon see until we go to an eighteen game
schedule right now, and I will almost predict this when
they do go to the eighteen game schedule, I would

(02:13:29):
be stunned if they didn't extend the season to twenty
weeks and every week team would get two buys. And
the idea again is you're selling now right now as
it stands, with their seventy eight game schedule, you have
eighteen weeks of regular season football. If you're offering the
networks twenty weeks of regular season football instead of eighteen,

(02:13:50):
just do the math in your It is mind boggling
how much money we're talking about here. Yeah, but it
almost would get to the point where there really is
no reason for preseason football.

Speaker 2 (02:14:01):
Yeah there, I mean, but there is, isn't there?

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
No? Ya? Here, here's the dirty little secret. So on
NFL teams, you have a certain amount of players on
your roster, right, fifty something players on the roster, and
then you have a practice squad that he adds a
few players. And remember, any any player off to practice
squad can be taken off another practice squad if they're
offered a full roster spot on another NFL team. When

(02:14:27):
you talk about let's say fifty five man roster some
like number like that, how many roster spots are really
up for grabs? And the fact is the answer for
almost every NFL team is maybe two or three?

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
Yeah, I say less than five, less than five. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:14:47):
So you see guys really maybe play, make a great
play in a preseason game, Oh more often than not,
that guy is not going to make the team. In
other words, decisions aren't made based on a preseason game.
Decisions are made on the practice field, seeing them day
in and day out on who's going to make the team,

(02:15:09):
and then who's not going to make the team. And
by the way, this has always been the case. I
remember again, way back in the Raider days, we would
have a guy that would have an insane preseason game.
We'd be talking amongst us like, oh, yeah, he's a player,
and literally would be cut the next week. And so
the games. The idea of preseason goes way back to
the Stone Age, when guys actually had full time, you know,

(02:15:31):
off off field jobs and had to literally get ready
for the football. Those days obviously are long gone. Is
there any preseason football in high school? Is there any
preseason football in college? No, there isn't. It was only
in the NFL where they had created this idea of
exhibition games, and they've basically got what's far more valuable
to these NFL teams are the controlled scrimmages. So what

(02:15:56):
they do in these controlled scrimmages is a team will
say to the other team, all right, we want to
work specifically on this, okay, and then in exchange, this
is what we're working for. So you have these controlled scrimmages.
They still can be physical, but there's a purpose to
what they're trying to work on. To get ready for
the start of the regular season as opposed to just

(02:16:18):
throwing out a bunch of players on the field as
we saw on Thursday night, that will never see the
light of day in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:16:24):
Right, And that's why the preseason does seem a bit pointless,
is because this is not the team that you're going
to put out in four or three weeks. But if
you do put out some of your starters, I do
think there is value to it, but you're right, it
diminishes every single time when you stop using your starters,
because there's nothing like a real game.

Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
There is nothing like a real game, A controlled scrimmage. Yes,
that helps.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
Preseason was exposed in twenty twenty. Well, we didn't have
a preseason because of the COVID situation, and we just
got to the games and maybe they looked a little
rusty the first week or two. Yeah, right, in that
point a normal you could look.

Speaker 3 (02:17:02):
At week one and two as a preseason as they
try to figure things.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
Well, that's what you do in college, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (02:17:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:17:08):
I don't disagree that. I think we will be getting
rid of preseason games. I like what Joe Burrow said.

Speaker 2 (02:17:16):
I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (02:17:17):
But he said, if we if the league extends to
eighteen at a second, by but that everybody has the
same buy kind of like an all star break like
the NBA, and that's when you do the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
He's like, everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:17:31):
Takes a break.

Speaker 3 (02:17:31):
Oh like that, that's what he came out with that,
And I was like, I actually think that could work
and everybody has a little break together and then their
own separate bies.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Okay, but again, you're you're gonna be hard pressed to
have any owner agreed to have their star players participate
in an exhibition, which the Pro Bowl is like you're
playing flag foot something.

Speaker 2 (02:17:52):
That's what they're gonna be doing anyway. They're gonna be
doing that anyway. But it makes sense. And then this
would push.

Speaker 3 (02:17:58):
The Super Bowl into President's Weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:18:02):
Well, you could push the Pro Bowl on the Super
Bowl to any months, any days. It's going to get
the biggest audience around. I look at I I don't
know if the owners would ever agree to that. I
mean it almost seems like, look, my idea at this
point is.

Speaker 2 (02:18:15):
Get rid of the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 (02:18:16):
We'll just name the Pro Bowl. Because here here's again,
when we talk about it cheap and honor. I mentioned
earlier that Eli Manning's listed as a four time Pro Bowler, right,
the reality is he only actually made two Pro Bowls.
He was picked as an alternate. Now, remember, quarterback is
the only position where they actually have a third team
quarterback officially named to the team. So if you're an alternate,

(02:18:39):
you're either the fourth, fifth, or the sixth best quarterback
in your conference, not the league in the conference. That's
not that's not really distinguishing you as anything special. Okay,
I would just name a Pro Bowl team, no replacements,
none of that where you've got a bunch of guys
getting another, you know, a fake Pro Bowl added to

(02:18:59):
their resume. I'm not into that kind of stuff at all.

Speaker 3 (02:19:02):
Yeah, I feel like the Pro Bowl is getting further
and further away from anything, to be honest, Like less
and less people are interested because it's not.

Speaker 2 (02:19:12):
Really the best of the best.

Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
It's like you said, fourth, fifth, sixth string that maybe
got in.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
We had the backup quarterback for the Ravens in the
prom you throw two touchdowns, it's less than Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:19:25):
It's like, come on, yeah, yeah, it doesn't diminish the event.

Speaker 1 (02:19:32):
It's not something to be taken serio.

Speaker 2 (02:19:34):
It isn't.

Speaker 3 (02:19:35):
It isn't, and maybe it is to get rid of it.
But I do like the idea of everybody having.

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
A I don't mind that idea. In other words, the
first buy would be staggered like normally, but a second
bye would be Now, would you do it middle of
the season or towards the end of the season where
everyone gets a week off?

Speaker 2 (02:19:56):
No, you have to do it towards the middle.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
It would seem right, right.

Speaker 3 (02:19:59):
Would seem like that would make the most sense, And
then you stagger the other buyes as evenly as you could.

Speaker 1 (02:20:05):
Yeah, right, because we don't have any buys in the
last what is it, five weeks? I think the buys
in in week thirteen if I recall, I'd have to
look that one up. But uh, I always felt like
there was an advantage if you had a later buye
than early.

Speaker 2 (02:20:22):
Of course week fourteen.

Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
Week fourteen is the last bye week. Yeah, yeah, that
makes sense with an eighteen week season. Yeah, so yeah,
I would do it in the middle of the year. Yeah,
but that also means that you know, if you're going
to have a universal buy, then it's potentially a team's
going to have buye in consecutive weeks. Yeah, just think
about that. I mean if you let's say you just

(02:20:47):
randomly pick. Okay, let's say you had a twenty week
season and you say week ten, all right, there it is,
there's the bye. All right, Well, what about the teams
that had to buy in week nine?

Speaker 3 (02:20:56):
Well, no, you do the halfway point of like week fourteen,
So you do like week seven?

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
No, no, no, If you have a twenty week season.

Speaker 2 (02:21:04):
Right, but the buys aren't the last couple of.

Speaker 1 (02:21:06):
Okay, all right, so so week sixteen, if you're adding
two weeks of the season, so week eight, let's just
use week eight eight ish? Well, what if you had
also a buy week seven, you had two weeks off?
Would that'd be good? Is that lucky enough? Or if
you're six and oh and you're on a roll, do
you want two weeks off? Yeah? Yeah, No, it's tricky.

Speaker 2 (02:21:29):
It's tricky, but it's tricky.

Speaker 7 (02:21:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
This is what I always like. Teams that get ready
for the playoffs and they got their playoff position clinched,
and then they sit everybody that last week and then
they come out stale in that playoff game.

Speaker 2 (02:21:46):
Which we've seen it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:46):
Because they also normally that team will also get a
buye on top of that. Now you've been offered two
full weeks. No, I understand, your body's not going to
heal in a week in the NFL. You unless you
unless you've been around NFL players and see what they
put their body through every single week, It's a week's

(02:22:08):
not going to get them. Well, it takes months after
a season for them to begin to start feeling even
semi normal, So it will. It'd be interesting. But yeah,
two weeks, two bye weeks, especially when they expand to
an eighteen game schedule. All right, let's find out what's
trending right now. Mister Olympics himself, we've been going back

(02:22:30):
and forth throughout the day. Just just just accept it.
You're I don't have to. I have my opinion, and
I respect your opinion. Here's what I I'm not saying.
I haven't been entertained by watching a relay. Again. We
were talking about this mixed four by four hundred relay
phenomenal finish to that race. But you can't convince me

(02:22:54):
that winning a relay medal is the same as winning
an individual medal. It's not right. Yeah, it's a different thing.
It's a relay. I give you an example. So I
worked for a number of years with Michael Thompson, former
Laker player, longtime Laker announcers. But Michael won two championship

(02:23:18):
rings as members of Showtime Lakers. And we had Eric
Dickerson in studio, who never won a super Bowl but
is in the Hall of Fame, And Michael said, would
you trade that Hall of Fame ring for a Super
Bowl ring? And Eric Dickerson's response was, hell no. I

(02:23:38):
mean there are only so many Hall of Fame rings.
A lot of people have super Bowl rings, so my
ring is a little more exclusive. And I would say
the same thing about winning an individual medal as opposed
to a team.

Speaker 5 (02:23:53):
So I'm sure Dickerson can take solace in the fact
that he did his part. And hey, if he had quarterbacks, yeah,
another situation quarterback when he was at his.

Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
If he was in a better situation, he would have
gotten his ring. Right, He goes, I didn't have the
luxury playing with Magic Johnson a Kareem ab dul Jabbar
like you did. And Jane's worthy and when he ring,
but he didn't say that, I was thinking that, by
the way, the whole bye week talk there.

Speaker 5 (02:24:17):
Yeah, based on everything I've learned as a fan and
being in this business, there is zero chance the NFL
will have a universal bye week and take their product
off of the air for an entire week.

Speaker 1 (02:24:31):
But the idea has to have the Pro Bowl during
that No.

Speaker 5 (02:24:35):
More to your point, You're no owner is going to
agree to have a player involved in anything that does
not prepare you for a game or be a game
during that time.

Speaker 1 (02:24:45):
There's no chance. I don't well, that was she was
quoting Joe Burrow. There's no chance. Joe Burrow just stagger
you got. Well, he's had injury problems in two of
his four years, so maybe that's his You have the
best money making product around, keep it on the field. Yeah,
that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (02:25:06):
Sorry, Yeah, I thought Sam was going to butt in
with uh difficult We inter up this segment. By the way,
in the NFL that Dolphins and receiver Tyreek Kell have
reportedly restructured his contract to be worth ninety million over
the next three years. That includes sixty five million in
guaranteed money. Cardinals say linebacker bj Ojulari out for the

(02:25:30):
year after tearing his ACL and practice on Friday. We
got just three weeks, guys until we have a college
football game Week zero, headlined by Florida State and Georgia Tech.
So how about a little college football news today?

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
I can't wait.

Speaker 5 (02:25:43):
Quarterback phase on Brandon He's the top rank recruiting the
class of twenty twenty six. He committed to Tennessee over Alabama.
Big kit for the volunteers. All right, let's go to Paris.
US won seventeen total medals today, best single day metal
output for Team USA since nineteen eighty eight. In soul,

(02:26:04):
Katie Ledeci eight hundred freestyle gold for a fourth straight Olympics,
first woman to win four consecutive golds in any Olympic event,
nine golds for her career, most by a woman in
Team USA history. She hopes to be back for the
twenty twenty eight Games in Los Angeles. That was her
final swim in Paris. Sim own Biles. She's up to
seven Olympic gold medals after winning the vault final, and

(02:26:25):
she still has more to come on Monday finals on
floor and on the balance beam in the pool as well.
Usaid a world record winning gold in the mixed four
by one hundred relay USA Basketball no problem with Puerto Rico.
They get the top seed in the quarterfinals. They will
face Brazil on Tuesday, potentially gonna get Serbia in a
semi final matchup as well. Women's soccer is into the

(02:26:49):
semi finals. They will take on Germany on Tuesday. Men's
water polo they booked to spawn in the quarterfinals. American
Vincent Hancock. He gets Olympic gold in skeet shooting. She
Carrie Richardson silver in the one hundred meters. Julian Alfred
of Saint Lucia took home the gold, first ever Olympic
medal for Saint Lucia. Finally got a shout out. Ryan Krauzer,

(02:27:09):
the American becomes a first man to three peete an
Olympic shot put history. Those are some large gentlemen talking
about this with Jonas Knox. Krauser can apparently squat seven
hundred and twenty five pounds. So I heard this conversation
with Jonas who said that the amount he squats over
a month with still that add up to that.

Speaker 1 (02:27:31):
I mean, that is just I don't care how forty
five degree angle.

Speaker 3 (02:27:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:27:39):
Larry Allen who recently passed away the Hall of Fame guard.
He benched seven hundred I got benched seven hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (02:27:52):
That almost seems not possible.

Speaker 1 (02:27:55):
Right, there's video of it.

Speaker 5 (02:27:57):
I've seen it and I need to just watch it again,
just be because it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (02:28:02):
Bench is seven hundred pounds. I mean back to you,
I didn't I'm looking at this photo. Yes, Steve Speechele
is thinking about Larry Allen. I well, I mean again,
we've just been talking about this with the Olympics going on,
how far a human body can be pushed to do

(02:28:24):
things that just do not seem possible, right, you know,
we think about what are the limits to the human body.
It was very famous in the early fifties that no
man could run a mile in less than four minutes,
and a guy named Roger Banister finally broke the four
minute barrier. And they were literally people at the time

(02:28:47):
that thought it was not possible. Look at this, you're
ready for this. I'm going to show you. Okay, this
is Larry Allen, the late great Larry Allen, and he's
going to do they're doing, They're adding up and so
he finally gets ready for this. Is it for seven
hundred pounds. This was it right here. I'm this is
a great radio so we're talking about this. But anyway,

(02:29:09):
so that is seven now they get it up for
him and seven hundred pounds. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
Yeah, wow, yeah, that is.

Speaker 1 (02:29:24):
Seven plates on each side.

Speaker 2 (02:29:26):
Sevens.

Speaker 1 (02:29:27):
I remember Brady Pepinka, former NFL linebacker, was my weekend
partner here for years Fox Sports Radio, and he was,
you know, a linebacker. I said, what was it like, Larry?
And he goes very simple. If he got his hands
on you, you did not move, didn't matter how big
you were, he would literally stop you. You had to

(02:29:48):
avoid this man. If he got his hands on you,
you could not move.

Speaker 2 (02:29:54):
Probably wouldn't want to move. I would just be like,
you got me. I'm not even gonna find movie.

Speaker 1 (02:30:02):
The strength, the agility of these Olympic athletes is just staggering.

Speaker 2 (02:30:07):
I struggled a bench just the poll. Yeah isn't that
like forty five?

Speaker 1 (02:30:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:30:11):
Yeah, that's like I struggle with that.

Speaker 1 (02:30:13):
Yeah. I'm not breaking any records myself. You sain Bolt,
I mean winning the one hundred and two hundred meters
in three consecutive Olympics. No, yeah, his world record who's
going to break this nine point five eight in one
hundred meters? What n point five to eight?

Speaker 7 (02:30:32):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:30:34):
Come on? This is unbelievable, And there's.

Speaker 3 (02:30:39):
Not even like Olympic athletes, but like you hear about
somebody who ran the Boston Marathon and that they did
it in an hour and fifty seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:30:47):
The LA Marathon one year I was doing the I
had to do the post race interviews for the TV
station I work out in Los Angeles as so I
actually opened the race at Dodger Stadium, and it ends
down in Santa Monica. By the way, it's pouring rain
in Santa Monica at the end. So they bring this

(02:31:08):
I don't know if it was Nigerian or who was
this guy? I Am not kidding you. He barely looked
like he was even he hasn't breathing hard. He was
just and he won. Yeah, of course, you know. He
did speak a little English. It could have been nicer.
And I'm interviewing this guy and I'm like, are you
even sweating? I mean the rain drops on you, but

(02:31:30):
those are rain drops, Like, you're not breathing hard. You
just ran over twenty six miles like it was an
afternoon jog.

Speaker 2 (02:31:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:31:38):
And by the way, doing this by you know, breaking
five minute miles every time, you know, to run this race.

Speaker 2 (02:31:44):
Unreal, unreal. And those aren't even Olympic athletes. These are
just athletes. Like it's it's incredible what people can do
if you push your body.

Speaker 1 (02:31:55):
I'm gonna enjoy this last week at the Olympics most
definitely the one thing, the one thing. Were you a
fan of the opening ceremony? I know there was controversy,
but overall overall, yeah, the idea. Look at I've been
to Paris a number of times. I love Paris. I mean,
you know, my daughter's name Paris. But the boat thing
didn't work. I mean it didn't help it. Obviously that

(02:32:15):
was raining, pouring rain. Yeah, but I want to see
the athletes. I'd rather the stadium situation than them sort
of jammed together on a boat. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:32:25):
And then it seemed like it took longer than other
Olympics to see all the athletes, Like you, you tuned
out after a while with each boat. It just seemed
a little bit anti climatic.

Speaker 1 (02:32:38):
Well, and this was an NBC thing. First of all,
I couldn't understand why Peyton Manning was on that part
of the event. What was his purpose? I mean you
could go five minutes and not know he was there. Yeah,
and then they had Kelly Clarkson. I was just trying
to figure it out. Tarico, who's as good as they get.

(02:32:59):
He's seemed a little lost at times. But I didn't
blame it. And that What happen was when the United
States ship that it was big, you would have thought
that they would have more than two cameras because they
just kept cutting back and forth from this one cluster
of six women and then they went to this other

(02:33:21):
group and they just went back and the other one
wasn't even like lit up, like they're in the dark.
And I'm thinking, wait a second, you know what both
the United States is in. Would you have like a
lot of cameras on that so we could see some
of these athletes up close and personal. Yeah, I know,
you would think you would have thought somebody would have
thought that. And they just kept cutting back and forth
between the same people over and over again.

Speaker 2 (02:33:44):
Yeah, the execution seemed like it could have been a
little bit better.

Speaker 5 (02:33:47):
They seemed ill prepared. I'm sure the rain didn't help.
The rain does not, so LA should not do its
opening ceremony on the freeway.

Speaker 1 (02:33:58):
Not a good idea.

Speaker 2 (02:33:59):
Car there they go.

Speaker 1 (02:34:03):
Not a good idea at I remember when the Lakers
had their parade in two thousand and nine when they
won the first of the back to back. It went
from Staples Center to the Coliseum today. I remember very
well because we were the Lakers station. I did six
hours of radio that day from the coliseum. But it
was an endless parade and it the logistics were bad

(02:34:26):
because every single police officer in the city had to
be working the parade that day, which unfortunately resulted in
some crime in other spots. So the next year they
decided that wasn't a great idea. We'll do it a
little differently, which they did.

Speaker 2 (02:34:43):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (02:34:44):
What kind of week are we looking forward to? Another
week of the preseason football, a lot more Olympics. Will
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Speaker 10 (02:35:40):
Oh, Steve, I have to tell you this. Oh actually
I have two questions for you. Did you get stuck?
So you do a little bit of driving these days,
but did you get stuck behind that lithium battery truck
out in the outskirts of the desert driving back and
forth between your commute?

Speaker 1 (02:35:56):
Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:35:57):
I do know things down for hours team, like going
towards Vegas.

Speaker 1 (02:36:01):
Isn't that it was a fifteen? I'm on the oka,
although I've had some occurrences on the ten that had
been really bizarre. So anyone that's done the ten, let's say,
from Los Angeles all the way to Phoenix, which is
where I'm going. You know, it's just a straight drive

(02:36:22):
through the desert pretty much, And there were consecutive weeks.
We're in the middle of the desert. I had already
crossed into Arizona. All of a sudden, you know, you're
looking at the outdoor temperature on your car and it says,
you know, one oh nine or whatever it is, and
then in a matter of seconds, it says seventy five
degrees and the rain starts falling, and it's you could

(02:36:44):
barely hold the wheel because I mean it's like like
a month's like I guess they call it a month soon.

Speaker 2 (02:36:49):
Yeah, I've experienced something similar.

Speaker 1 (02:36:52):
And it's like like like five miles. It's very scary,
and it's like five or six miles of this. The
windshield wipers are useless, it's coming down so hard. But
the weird thing is watching the temperature drop like that,
like thirty five degrees. And then eventually get out of
this thing and within a few miles it goes back
to Etona.

Speaker 10 (02:37:10):
I have one more thing, Steve, Yes, sir, I get
all these random like articles and posts now on Facebook,
like they changed up their way. They just show you
random stuff that you might be interested in and you
are quoted in this random article about I think it
was Caitlin Clark or something, and I'm like, Steve Hartman
just popping up. I gotta find it. I'll send it
to you. It's all funny. Yes, Like I'm like they said,
Fox Studio Radio, Fox Studio, Like it was one of

(02:37:31):
these like just counterfeit websites, you like, not really offering
Fox Studio Radio, Steve Hartman, it's a deep.

Speaker 1 (02:37:38):
Well of y, you know, everything on ye. I want
to thank Nick for doing updates today, and Sam, it's
great to see you every once in a while. And
of course Lee producing our show today. And so for
two legends right there sitting across from me, back so
to speak, the dream Team. Yeah yeah, screen team. Could

(02:38:00):
you guys have graduated to the big time, you know,
the old Monday through Friday lunch pail.

Speaker 10 (02:38:07):
I like being I like being in on a Saturday though,
because I walk in there's leftover pizza, not left over,
it just got yeah, I mean it was pretty fresh.

Speaker 1 (02:38:16):
I had three slices Jonah slicing that Sam. Sam will
do that. You know that when there's free food here,
I'm gonna Goorge to come in when Sam and I
would do weekends, Sam would Sam would order some interesting thing.

Speaker 10 (02:38:31):
I would eat like two burritos in one sitting, and
they just be like incapacitated and unable to do my job.

Speaker 1 (02:38:38):
Just push a button, Lee.

Speaker 9 (02:38:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:38:40):
Do you have a prediction for your Packers as they
get ready coming off a breakout season with Jordan Love
Now he gets the big fat contract. I'm a little
worried about it because it sort of reminds me of
Jalen Hurts, who got a big deal after his breakout
season with the Eagles and then seemed to take a
step back last year. Well deserved.

Speaker 4 (02:39:00):
Well, I don't say, you know, I won't say well
deserved because it's he's only played so much, but I
think he's worthy of it.

Speaker 1 (02:39:07):
I'm worried about the younger guys. Maybe you know they
got a lot of contracts coming up.

Speaker 9 (02:39:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:39:11):
Fun fact, I'm going to be going. I'm doing my
big trip.

Speaker 4 (02:39:14):
I'm going to Lambeau November twenty fourth to see the
Packers versus the Niners. I hope to lose a toe
with frostbite.

Speaker 1 (02:39:22):
So how many times have you been to Lamba.

Speaker 4 (02:39:24):
I've been to Lambo once, but It was a tease
because there was not I didn't go for a game.
I went during the summer and got a tour.

Speaker 5 (02:39:29):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:39:31):
Wow, Yeah, and you're braving the cold weather. I am
braving that I had to go. I made you remember
the baby Snow game between them and Tampa, and so
my friend wanted to always go to Lamba. That was
the game he went to. I couldn't believe it, and
everyone was having a good time. We'll have more of
a good time. Keep it here. This is Fox Sports Radio.