Steve Hartman & Nikki Kay talk NFL & College Football!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio living the dream
once again here on a fully loaded rivalry Saturday of
college football Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Here and Well, if you're saying, what are you doing there, Hartman, Well,
Nikki invited me.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
She said, do you want to come on today?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
We wanted to Kiki.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah. So, Niki, it's great to be here.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
It's great to have you here, Steve. What is your
favorite part about Thanksgiving? Did you have some good food
or you not?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
A Well, Nikki, here's the honest truth about Thanksgiving for me.
So when you work in the business we're in Thanksgiving, well,
holidays in general are workdays. I mean, let's face it,
Thanksgiving is a football day. So I worked and I
have had I think in the last twenty five years

(00:57):
all but I think three years I have been enjoyed
whatever they were serving at the station as my things
station pot look.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
But it was actually pretty good this year. Like I
wasn't there last year.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Last year, I was actually with my kids and everybody
for Thanksgiving dinner and I heard just the horror story
of how bad the food was that they brought in.
But that was not the case this year. This was
good with turkey. They had stuffing, they had mashed potatoes,
they had the gravy, they had the green beans, they
had the pies.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Very good, very good.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
How about you, what's your favorite?

Speaker 6 (01:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
My theory is stuffing. I mean, yes, who isn't in
love with stuff? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
And it is the one it's the one time of year.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
That well, how often the eat turkey?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Exactly?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
No, it's special our family we host in Santa Barbara,
and it becomes a whole production. The only thing I'm
allowed to touch in the kitchen is the charcuterie board,
meaning I put crackers and salami on a plate.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
By the way, that is my daughter. She has now
become expert at that.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
It's really fun actually, and you kind of reach ob Yeah,
you kind of have to be a little just care
free and let let the board dictate where your next
move is.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm very when I have when I face one, I
try to see I'm a very orderly person.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
You're a type a person, right, I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Very very orderly. Okay, everything's got to be in place, right,
and so when I attack, I don't attack one thing.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I make sure that I grab a little of both. Yeah,
and I have different things.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I have learned that on charcouterie boards, the art is
not having anything of the same color next to each other,
and you try to get dimension and height, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I like that. Yeah, yeah, I'm a type.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I like that, right exactly. I'm very type B.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
So I will just you know, whatever way the salami
rolls is, how we.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Uh, well, you know this is this is just a
fun time of the year. Obviously, we have a big
day in the NFL tomorrow. I know we're going to
be talkalking about a lot of the NFL games. And
by the way, can I just say one thing about
the NFL before we get into some of this college football.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I have a thought too I want to use.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
So, you know, after watching the Bears do what they
did to the Eagles yesterday, and you know, all year
long we've got teams like the Patriots and the Bears,
and they talk about strength to schedule, and I keep
hearing this, who have they beaten?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And my answer to that is, who has anybody beaten?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, the Rams are hot right now, so in
the moment, the Rams are hot, but give me a
quality win. I mean, the parody of the NFL has
never been to this extreme really, so when you look
at the Bills and the Chiefs and the Eagles and
the Ravens and you're like, what's going on? There's no
difference between these teams. Either you show up and play

(03:50):
a good game or you don't and you get beat.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And that is what we've seen in the NFL. So
you like parody.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I love parody. I do.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
I'm not ready to call it quits on the Chiefs dynasty.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You're not no to realize it's not over.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, it's it's it was tough going well.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I I look at I said this after and Bo
can attest to this after they got blown out by
the Eagles on the Super Bowl. I actually said, Patrick
Mahomes has played in his last Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Wow, that is I mean, it's it's it finished. I mean,
you know he had it was a perfect storm with
Andy Reid and he had a lot of weapons around him.
It's over.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I mean they're just not.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
They're getting older and they got the pay guys and
let guys go. You can only kick the can down
the road so many times when the salary caps in place.
He will never play in another Super Bowl. It doesn't
affect his legacy. He's not going to catch talking.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
He'll be back in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Where when when?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
How it might not you know, it might be like
the like a couple of years and then the return.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't think so. I think the Chiefs had their run.
I it would be like like Troy Aikman, you know,
with the Cowboys, and they won three Super Bowls in
four years, and they were a relatively young team and
then all of a sudden they missed out and it
was over.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Well, remember when I think of it, like when Kobe
Bryant was left with the Lakers and no Shaq, and
you know they early on and then everyone was wondering
would Kobe ever get back to the NBA Finals?

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Could he win without Shaq? And he did? You know,
there was a gap.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's a great announy.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I like that. I like I was in the midst
of all that. As a matter of fact, I remember
I remember in that run there, so we were the
Lakers stations, so you know, we had four as a
very big bond with Kobe during that period. And I
remember before the start of what was the seven eight season,
which ultimately completely flip when they made the midseason trade

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to get Pau Gasol, and they did end up in
the NBA Finals. Kobe won it out.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Oh he sure didn't.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
And he basically mixed a trade.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
With the Bulls because one of the players that the
Lakers wanted in return was Louell Dang And he was like, no, no, no, no, no,
I can't. I gotta got that. I have to have that.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Guy was like what.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
But on the opening game out of Staples Center, as
it was then known, I was doing this face to
face with Kobe and I said to him, I always
look I loved Kobe. I just looked, so I said,
you know, there is somebody that has the answer for you.
He goes, who's that? I go, the guy that looks
at you in the mirror every day?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh wow, okay, hello.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
And as we're talking, I had no idea that some
network cameras were in the locker room film is. They're like,
there's Kobe in deep conversation. I'm like, actually, he wasn't.
It was on some stupid thing. I said, am, But
you're right, okay. And by the way, Tom Brady won
the first three Super Bowls and then it was ten
years before he won his four Super Bowl and then

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he won his fifth and sixth.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
That's there are example.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think Mahomes will be back.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Okay, how do you feel about the elevated halftime shows
we're getting on these?

Speaker 7 (07:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Our dear friend Ben Mahler and I were old school guys. Look,
I'm not into all that entertainment stuff. I just not.
If I'm watching a football game, I want to see
a football game. If I'm watching a basketball game, I
want to watch a basketball game. I've never been into
halftime shows ever.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I did like the eminem and Jack White one in Detroit.
That was fun.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
The Beyonce one at Christmas last year was a lot
that felt like a Super Bowl halftime show.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But it's not something I usually halftime means I'm going
to get something to eat or you know, I'm not
really watching thirds, right, And then I'm upset on Super
Bowl because the halftimes are so long.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm like, can we get back to the game. But
do you like halftimes?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I think at some point it gets a little out
of hand, right.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, we have a lot of halftimes here over the
last you know what, Thanksgiving, right, you know, Friday.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Chos Malone and I like concerts, but at some point,
you know it is a game.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah. Well, like I say, if I want to go
to a concert, I will go to a concert. I
love music. I have a lot of you know, tons
of concerts over the years, and there's a place for that.
And when I'm watching sports, I like to watch.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Steve are you? Are you just saying that you're bummed
you only got to see fifteen seconds a little John
in Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
That's what he's what you're latching out exactly. You are
reading between the lines.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I don't even know you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I'm done. I'm done.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
You literally have no idea how to talk about.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
But that's okay. No, I mean, look at what.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Do you guys think? Do you guys like the halftime shows?

Speaker 6 (08:49):
No, personally, I don't really care. I mean I didn't
see the Jack White halftime show because I was trying
to get a three year old ready to go have
Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
How was that?

Speaker 6 (08:59):
Oh it's fine, Yeah, but no, I don't doesn't really
move me, doesn't move the needle. Like last year, it
was cool that Kendrick Lamar did it, but I didn't
care because I was trying to watch the Eagles undress
the Chiefs. So I just wanted that to end and
get back to the game.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
How'd you feel about that? Eagles?

Speaker 6 (09:16):
Oh, I'm sure we'll get to it, but not great.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well, I mean you can see now he is heavily
into the Rams right now. Rams have always been his
sort of his other team. I wouldn't say second team.
I'll see his other team.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yeah, I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And you know, and it really depends. Look, I said
before the season, bo, you know this, before the season began,
I picked the Eagles, and I said, if there's any
team that could challenge him in the NFC, if Matthew
Stafford can stay healthy. If and that was a big if,
member he had all the back problems before the season began.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
It's on a table, right, I might, but if.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
He is there, the Rams are the prime challenger.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, not only has he been healthy right now, he's
running away with that MVP Award thirty. He has twenty
seve haven't touchdown passes since he threw his last pick.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I want to know what's up with Philly's offense?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Nothing? Right, I mean, look, they have struggled all year
long to run the football. I mean, Sakwan Barkley bears
no resemblance to the guy we saw last year at all.
And then we have the tush push and they can't
even they can't even execute that anymore. You know a
lot of people have been saying about this tushpush that

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there have been other times where there have been fumbles
on that play and because it's such a you know,
like a scrum and so many bodies, it's hard to
detect where the ball actually is. And this time they
actually gave it to the Bears. That was a huge play,
and the Eagles just never recovered. So look again, what's
happening now? We could be talking completely differently in four weeks, right,

(10:53):
you know. That's that's the thing. A lot of football
to be played, a lot of college football to be played.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
So this is the rivalry day.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Now. Remind everyone, Nikki, were you went to college?

Speaker 5 (11:07):
I am in great company here as a fellow Bruin.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yes, and we do have the good old USC.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
So okay, here here's something I always think about struggling
football programs. If if we beat USC today? Yes, yes,
is that some glimmer of you know this?

Speaker 7 (11:29):
This?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Oh yeah, I think the Jerry newheisl narrative has been
excellent for our for this season. Was it was a
game for three games. I mean, and excellent is a
strong word, but that was a ray of light. It
was if UCLA were to beat the Trojans, I think
that's another little shimmer.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, I'll tell you this, USC is a three touchdown favorite. Now,
any rivalry game out there, you're listening, you know these
rivalry games are right, you can have a huge underdog,
but it's a rivalry game.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Anything can happen a rivalry game.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And Nikki, the last time that SC was a basically
a three touchdown favorite against UCLA was two thousand and six.
Final score UCLA thirteen, SC nine. And that was a
much better USC team. That team was ranked number two
in the country going into that game, and UCLA pulled
off a stunning upset. Now it was at the Rose Bowl,

(12:23):
but thirteen to nine is twenty one point underdog, so
it's not like it's never happened before. It could happen again.
Believe you gotta believe, you gotta believe. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Hey, let us have for ted Lasso moment and you'll
thank you.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
I'm unfortunately outnumbered today since my normal tech producer is
not here, so I will have to disagree with your
guys take on UCLA.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, look at they have no chance. But first of all,
we don't even know if Imlayava is going to play.
Weeks ago, you.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Were saying UCLA was going to go undfeated.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I was rolling. I wish I was in here when
he was. I would have drank the.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Kol a I had. I had him winning thirteen in
a row and winning the national championship.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
If we do not win this game tonight, I will
not be coming back to work again. Hey, I will quit.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
That sounds like a win win for you, honestly, Yeah, yeah, Hey.

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Speaker 2 (13:36):
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Speaker 2 (15:12):
All right, So, Nicki, I'm a College football is my passion, right, Okay,
So look at you, as you know, I follow all
sports like all sports fans do. It's not that I
don't love the NFL or the NBA or Major League.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I love all of them, right, It's just that college
football is your one to one is my one.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
She's your main.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Squeeze, thank you very much. And it has to do
with the pageantry, it has to do with the history.
There's just a lot of different factors on why college
football is a passion for me, and I am lucky enough.
This will be the sixteenth year that I have been
able to vote for the Heisman Trophy. It's not easy
to get one of those votes, and nowadays apparently it's

(15:51):
a little hard to keep that vote. I actually got
for the first time. NICKI an email from the Heisman
Trust congratulate me that I I'm going to be a
selector in twenty twenty five, And I'm like, yeah, why
wouldn't I be a selector in twenty twenty five. But
they're trying to crack down on people that really don't

(16:11):
follow college football.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
The good guys, the casualsaed them out exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's good news. Is the guy that is sort of
the head PR guy for the Heisman Trust, Tim Henning,
is someone I know. I'm a couple of times when
I went to New York, well I had to because
I was in New York. I wanted to make sure
I touch base with this guy. So I was there
for a couple I went on a summer trip with
my boys, and then I was there for a visit
to NYU with my daughter, her senior or of high

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school anyway, so I went in to see this guy,
you know, just touch base. So I want to make
sure I'm good with the guy. But here's what's happening, Nikki. Now,
with the Ohio State taking care of business against Michigan,
obviously yesterday Indiana Blue ouperdue. We have a game next weekend.
The Big Ten championship game Indianneapolis number one, Ohio State
number two, Indiana, the only two undefeated teams left, both

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twelve and zero, the top two rated quarterbacks in the country.
Julian's saying for Ohio State for Nana, Mendoza for Indiana.
So this game is literally for everything.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Okay, So coming into week fourteen, Mendoza the favorite for
the Heisman. I think the odds are, you know, minus
one twenty five saying plus four hundred correct.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
But that's before he threw three touchdown passes today against Michigan.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
So that was coming into today, is there? I mean,
I think in a de facto had to head matchup,
saying if he reigns supreme Ohio State wins, I think
that flips the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I would say that. Here's the thing about Mendoza, all right,
So obviously Indiana has never had a Heisman Trophy winner,
so that plays in his favor. You know, I will
say this, I think that if it is a competitive game,
if it's back and forth, unless Mendoza throws three picks
and has a complete meltdown. But let's a it's a
very tight game, and there isn't a great differential in

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the stats we say in a Mendoza, I think Mendoza
because of Indiana getting to this level. Now I know
where they were a year ago, but this year completely different.
I mean, engineered a road win against Oregon that was
a huge, obviously win for Indiana earlier this year. So yeah,
I would say that even if Indiana loses, Mendoza still

(18:31):
would have a chance to win the Heisman. Now, you know,
Jeremiah Love, There's obviously other good players.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
In the country.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
But let's face it, folks, there's only one of two
guys that's going to win the Heisman this year. It's
either going to be Jillian Saying or it's going to
be Fernando Mendoza.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
And we have the Wisconsin Minnesota game on the screen,
and I just I love snow football.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Could you imagine if that was UCLA playing there?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, you know that. You know I've asked this question that.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Could have been a very could have been in reality.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh absolutely, Look I have I've asked many players over
the years. I'm going to give you five extremes. So
I'll give you a weather and go to the extreme,
and what is the hardest and what is the easiest extreme?
Snow extreme rain, extreme wind, extreme heat, or extreme cold,

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and everyone will tell you the easiest of those is snow.
No question, that's the easiest because it's not frozen. You know,
it's cold obviously, but it's not frozen, and it's not
like uh wind right wind can be a nightmare in
a game.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Again in an extreme situation.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
So for the most part, we have fun watching games
in the snow, but the players have fun playing in
the snow.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yep, yep. The Jamis Winston.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
I saw Jamis this year and I asked him, Yeah,
you know, he had never been around snow, and so
he and his son learned how to build a snowman together.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
It was awesome.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, their first one was it left something to be desired,
and then they really got They got after and dedicated
themselves to the craft of snowman making.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
I love Jamis.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I'm obviously born here in southern cal I've lived my
entire life in southern California, and I'm not a snow guy.
It's not that I am adverse to it, because it's
different and I so rarely have seen it over the
course of my lifetime. I know a lot of people
in southern Are you a skier.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yes, I grew up going to Mammoth, so you grew up,
you know, and I spent some time.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
My One of my market stops was Twin Falls, Idaho,
and that was my first TV job out of college.
Market one hundred and ninety four's nice, yeah, making twenty
k a year covering eight man.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Football twenty k for Nikki k Yeah, And.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
It was I mean, but we were right by Sun Valley,
so I'd go ski there all the time.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I love is something you have to be introduced to young,
right right, and.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
And there's an element.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
I was just talking to one of my friends. When
you're young and learning a sport like that, you're fearless exactly,
and then that carries into how you move your body
through it, you know, as growth.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
As opposed to the one time I actually did ski
was taken literally to the Okay, so I want my
ex she skied so and we were a bunch of
and they.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Said, oh, you'll be fine, fine, fine, And then I.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Went out ill like on this little bunny thing, you know,
like the day before it wasn't snowing or anything, and
just learning how to turn this ski so you know,
I can somehow get down so the next day we
can go off to the lift. We get to the top,
it is snowing hard. I didn't even know you had
to jump off, jump off the lift. I jumped off
and I went all the way down, and then it

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took me, I don't know, like a day to get
down the mountain. I couldn't turnament skis because the snow
was fine, so I had to lift the skis.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Every time I lift the skis.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I went down. And then she was yelling at me,
You're so lame, You're so lame. It was really so.
She's your ex exactly, and this is why. Uh yeah,
I never did it again, but I'm glad you did
it and you will. All right, Let's find out, right
I've been sort of hesitant right here to bring on

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a man that he's hurting it. Let's find out what's
trening right now, the uh prideful wolverine himself. So let
me ask you this, Martin, what, Steve, what do you want?

Speaker 4 (22:38):
He wants to rub it in?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well, I was, I know a lot of you know,
I got VJ.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
He's going to be going crazy as well.

Speaker 9 (22:46):
Yesterday he said, shar Own Moore is a better coach
than Ryan Day.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, he also said that Underwood was going to light
up Ohio State eight of eighteen sixty nine yards and
a pick. Did you really expect I mean, obviously what
happened a year ago, which was an insane upset at
Ohio State, But did you really think going into this
day that Michigan was going to beat Ohio State? I

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think that a shot, of course, with a true freshman
quarterback against the number one defense in the country.

Speaker 10 (23:17):
All of the things that you say, you could say
all of these things about Ohio State is two of
them last year, and last year Michigan had a fifth
year senior quarterback who somehow passed for less yards that
Bryce Underwood did today.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, but saying is better than the quarterback Ohio State
had last year. He's more talented, sure whatever, and in
the NFL he was last year.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
Yes, sidelined against Ohio against Michigan.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
But you also left out the main reason Ohio State
looked better offensively.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
They didn't have.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Chip Kelly calling plays like they did last year with
his debacle call against Michigan.

Speaker 10 (23:55):
I mean, the main reason Ohio State looks better this
year is because Michigan didn't stop the run?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Is chipp don done by the way?

Speaker 9 (24:02):
Done done?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, he's done done, and he doesn't care. He really
doesn't care. He was making six million this year with
the Raiders highest paid offensive coordinator in the history of
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Just ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Well, I you know, uh, you didn't put a lot
of pressure on saying I or where's the pass rush?
You need an Aiden Hutchinson on that defense, I.

Speaker 10 (24:22):
Mean between but all of that even not getting saying
if they just stopped the run in the third quarter, Yeah,
and like that's.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Been the key for Michigan. How do you stop Bou Jackson?

Speaker 10 (24:32):
You know, the same way you stopped Travon Henderson and
quitch On Judkins last year. Like if you just look
at the offensive Rookie of the Year odds to save
Tyler Warren and I'll forget Jackson Dart they all went
to Ohio State. They all got beat last year in
this game. Yeah, they all got beat. I mean they
all got beat last year in this game. All these
guys who've gone, how do you stop about Jackson in
the same way you stopped Travon Henderson and Mecka And

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that was before.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
What was the time of possession in the second half.

Speaker 10 (24:58):
Disgusting one. They had ball for like ten nine minutes
in the third quarter, a.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Long well they had the one drive was twelve minutes
for that last field goal.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Twelve minute drive.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
Crazy And it's not the reason why Michigan lost, But
it was a That touchdown by Jeremiah Smith quote unquote
touchdown as a crime against football.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
That is simply not a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I when I watched the replay, I immediately yelled out.
I was watching the game with my son. I go,
that's a touchback. It's a touchback.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
Michigan ball, clear as day, clear as day in ann Arbor,
clear as day.

Speaker 9 (25:32):
That's a touchback.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
And who knows how that game plays out differently, But
ultimately when you give up again, what with twelve minutes
of the third quarter they had the ball. Yeah, like
it's just twenty seven to nine score. Sharon Moore is just.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's just not there. You pay ten million dollars for
a quarterback.

Speaker 10 (25:51):
You know what, if two more completions, you could have
one million dollar per completion. Wow, that's great offensive efficiency.
Texas Tech beat Virginia forty nine and nothing. Twelve rank
Miami trying to get into the playoff with an impressive
showing over Pittsburgh thirty eight to seven, Carson Back twenty
three for twenty nine to two sixty seven and three touchdowns,

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and BYU beat UCF twenty I'm sorry forty one to
twenty one. Game's going on right now Vanderbilt in Tennessee
and the SEC matchup Top twenty matchup. There the fourteenth
threety Commodorees with a fourteen to seven lead over the
nineteenth break Volunteers just under twelve minutes left in the
first half. Second quarter starting for Oregon and Washington. Oregon's

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got the ball in the red zone on the four
yard line at three point lead, right now, three to nothing,
knocking on the door of the goal line with Dante
More and company and LSU trails a thre InKo Oklahoma
three to nothing at the start of the second quarter.
It's third and goal right now for the Sooners.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Back to you guys, all right, Martin, O'll be okay.
You had a four game winning streak against Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Take that.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Remember what prior to that? How many in a row
had they lost?

Speaker 7 (26:59):
Eight?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Nine?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
What was the losing street the house?

Speaker 9 (27:02):
Ohiuse d just won sixteen of the last twenty.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Sixteen, the last twenty all right, so you know you
got those four, got those four in a row. So we'll
just stick with it.

Speaker 10 (27:10):
You know who's far all this is and your your
your Sunday colors want want to hear it?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, Jim Harbaugh, Well he is fiercely lowy at the Harbor.
He even had actually we do a power rankings thing
on our Sunday, even after the Chargers got humiliated by Jacksonville,
he still had him number four in his top five.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I'm right.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I said one thing I'll say about you, VJ Man.
You are loyal to a fault, and I mean a
fault like.

Speaker 10 (27:38):
Any telling me lose by thirty two points. You know
you got to be the fourth best team in the league.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, I mean, actually at least at least he's got
him fourth out of five.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I was like, okay, all right, once again, here we
are another edition.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Of Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
So now we have a bit of a clear picture
on what's going to transpire next week. Nikki, as far
as these conferenceampionship games is concerned. Now, yesterday, I mean,
how about Texas A and M Right, they were undefeated,
ranked number three in the country, rolling along. They got
their last rivalry game against Texas. Not only do they

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lose the game, but they are eliminated from the SEC
Championship game. So the way it worked as a potential
tie between Georgia and Alabama, Old Miss and Texas A
and M, and they lose all the tie breaks because
of strength to schedule or something like that. So A
and M is out. That means that if Alabama beats

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Auburn and the Iron Bowl today, Alabama will play Georgia
in the SEC Championship game exactly. But if Alabama should
lose n Aubourn has upset them before, oh Miss will
be in the SEC Championship game. And then the question
is will Lane Kiffin be at the game? So I'm

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going to ask you about Lane Kiffin here for a second.
All right, So if you're a Lane Kiffen, if you're
advising Lane Kiffen, and here are your options stay at
Ole Miss, both to either LSU or Florida or maybe
a return to the NFL. The obvious team would be

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the Giants because they're looking for a new head coach
and his former Mississippi quarterback Jackson Dart is there. So
if you were to advise Lane Kiffen on what the
best move for him would be right now, you would tell.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Him what I'm telling him LSU.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
But you know what, there's something about Lane Kiffen that
is college football that man, I cannot envision him in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Well, he was in the NFL briefly with the ring
right right right as he was entered. Actually technically that
was Lance Kiffin because that's how Al Davis.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
This iteration of Lane Kiffer right where he has become.
He's a great personality and I enjoy his pre conference bit,
his you know, I think here has a lot of
fun with the sport, and I think he's a great
character and the sport of college football needs him. I'm
telling him to go to LSU. You're king in that

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in that neck of the woods.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Who whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Brian Kelly was king. I mean, he left Notre Dame
to go to LSU because he felt like there were
limitations at Notre Dame that prevented him from winning a
national championship. He knew there would not be similar Lemons
screens LSU at LSU, And the next thing you know
they're handing him fifty million dollars to walk out the door.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
I mean, if you're laying kivin, understand this.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
If you don't win a national championship, you get an
f at LSU. And it's not like LSU is Alabama
by any stretch. But Nick Saban won a championship there.
You know at Orgeron Last Miles. All these guys have
won one championship at LSU. To me with Lane Kiffin,
that's a lateral move.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
So where are you telling him to go?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I would tell him to go to the NFL. Interesting
because you've already proven. Look what he's done at Ole Miss.
That's four double digit win seasons at ole Miss. He's
already done an incredible job. But going to Florida where
they're expecting you to show up and win a national
championship immediately the same thing at LSU just another SEC school.
It's not like Alabama. I mean, if Alabama was available, yeah, hell,

(31:30):
I'll jump on that one. But if I'm Lane Kiffin,
his first life head coaching job was the Raiders job.
It was short lived, it was a year plus.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
What why do you keep.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Saying that LS who's not alable rightly.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
What I was trying to what is their history LSU?

Speaker 10 (31:47):
I mean LSU in the last twenty five years has
won a national championship with three different head coaches.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And after those, after those championships, then what they were
like the Auburn's very similar to LSU. Every once in
a while a national championship. You want to look at
their records, they're very very similar. DARBN has these breakout
seasons where they have an undefeated record to win a
national championship, and that's l s U.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Man.

Speaker 10 (32:15):
But the one they said LSU was putting into the
resources that LSU was putting into their football program.

Speaker 9 (32:21):
Dwarfs elebent.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
You telling me Brian okay so and Brian Kelly win because.

Speaker 10 (32:28):
He wasn't because he didn't know that he's not he's
not up from there's a quality coach, but he's got
to be able to recruit.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
If you just recruit Louisiana, you will win ten games.
This is a different recruiting you to do that. Look
at everything is changed in college football as far as recruiting.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
I don't think, which is why Nick Samon said.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I've had enough of this because now you got this
transfer portal. That's the worst thing. Everybody he talks about
ni L money. Okay, fine, pay the players. It's this
transfer portal you bring in it like USC right right, you.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Got doing well in the in this era.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
He is because he knows how to navigate the transfer portal.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
But you still have to keep players. That's the whole point.
It's like a complete flip of your entire roster.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
You could do this maybe in college basketball, but flipping
ten or twelve spots and then bringing in players from multitude.
Even Lane Kivin himself said the first year he did
a major job, and look, it's worked for him at
ol Miss. But he said, when people said, well, you
got twenty five transfers coming in, how's that going to
work for you? Goes hell, I don't know. They're coming

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from like twenty five different programs, isn't it. I got
one year to put all the pieces together and make
it fit.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
Isn't it easier to keep players if you're coaching at
LSU versus coaching at Miss?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Why eyes, I don't know how to LSU.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Guys are gonna leave. Guys are gonna leave LSU for
for anyone else.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Really, I'm sorry, did Caleb downs lead to leave Alabama to.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Go Yeah, that was a coaching change.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
You know, Well now we have another coaching.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Leave Alabama too, Nick Saban retired. I tail it out
of there.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
So you think that I think Wwayne kiffn going to LSU.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
They just rattle off national championships.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
No, I don't.

Speaker 10 (34:09):
Think championships anywhere. But I think if you're asking where
do you go blank slate, there's a better shot of
winning a national championship. I think LSU was shown in
the last thirty years they have a better shot at
doing So.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Why don't you go to Florida?

Speaker 9 (34:23):
Then?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Like good?

Speaker 10 (34:24):
Like I just said, LSU was shown the last thirty years,
they have a better shot at the.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Tip outside of the three national one eads for Saban,
Miles and Origeeron. I mean, obviously the twenty nineteen team
was artably there, Steve outside.

Speaker 9 (34:38):
Of the play, how was how was everything else? Missus Lincoln?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, So why can't they recruit like they did when
they had literally every great receiver in the NFL? It
was Brian Kelly. The family started out bad and ended bad.

Speaker 11 (34:50):
Yeah, exactly, Like do you like look at the players
from like Leakue neighbors, was that this like he played
at Brian Kelly's LSU Like, it's not like we're missing
guys like ls Who is missing guys?

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Like?

Speaker 10 (35:02):
Look at the best receivers in the NFL, they all
are from Louisiana or Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
All right, well do you believe guys?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I mean again, if Alabama wins today, they're in the
SEC championship game in Mississippi, season is over except for
going into the playoffs. Obviously Mississippi will still be in
the playoffs. Do you think we'll have an announcement on
Lane Kiffin's decision after today, like tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
I think LSU is expecting him.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
To Okay, So let's say Auburn beats Alabama today and
ole Miss is in the SEC championship game next week?
Will Lane Kiffen be coaching that game?

Speaker 5 (35:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Would he really walk away from.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
A team like that on the eve of the conference
championship game? What does that tell you about the lack
of character of Lane Kiffin that we don't already know?

Speaker 5 (35:58):
I think it's the carousel that defines this very day
and age of.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
You are coaching. How many was he been five six
years at all miss. Now, so you get to your
pinnacle here where you know, you get to the SEC
championship game, and you quit on your team.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
I heard Jim Mora talking today, did you Colorado State?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Don't get me started on Jim Moore?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Okay, I kind of want to get you start. I
kind of want to get you started on Jim Morre.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Not one of my favorite coaches at UCLA said the least.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
But yeah, I mean he he bolts, I mean, don't
get me started. All right? Coming up on the other side. Oh,
it's perfect timing for this. It's the dues and don'ts.
Don't do It's Fox Football Saturday, Steve Harvey, Nikki ka
here Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
All right, I take it, Alex. It's that time.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
We have an intro for dues and don'ts. I I
love that.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
Putting a spotlight on the don't.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
The subject brings me no joy. Don't do that, that's insane.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts?

Speaker 7 (37:10):
In sports?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Are you more of a do or don't?

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I'm a do.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
I'm a due person. I like the affirmatives. No action
over over negativity.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I guess I like that.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So do you have a do too.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
I'm gonna say, hey, let's do check your playing surfaces.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Did you hear about the Lakers court?

Speaker 3 (37:34):
First of all, how hideous?

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Oh that yellow something?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Everything about the NBA Cup is wrong because nobody gives
a crap about some in season tournament. But the idea
I have had to paint all these different courts in
these solid which looks awful on television. Yeah, awful.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
I was talking to one of the assistant coaches on
one of the teams and he's like, yeah, watching film
with a red court, your eyes get it's they take
a beating.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Somebody came up with this idea. I'm sure it was
Adam Silber, but it's awful. But yes, I heard that
the court was a little bit hazardous.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yes, it's so long, story short.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
The Lakers had to send their court back because it
was too slippery, and I'm sure it had to do.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
With the color.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Being up being there, up close and personal. I was
at the Lakers came earlier this week when they rolled
out the court.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
It is it really hits.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
You because on TV. I actually haven't personally attended any
of these NBA Cup games. On TV, you can't even
watch those games with the colors of these courts.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Okay, what's your do or don't? All right?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
My don't is this. Don't believe that if USC beats
UCLA that Lincoln Riley is safe. Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Oh oh, I want to. I need you to go
off on Lincoln right now.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Well, I mean, here's the thing about Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
So I do still have a few people well connected
to the USC football program, and you know, on the surface,
certainly been an upgrade from last year. But eight and
three going into this game, and they're huge favorites. They
should beat UCLA. Nine and three, Right, nine and three
not terrible.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
That's not what you paid for.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
The fact is is that Lincoln Riley's record in his
first four years of USC is similar to Clay Hilton's
record after four years at USC, and they paid Clay
Helton a lot less money.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Do you remember the noise the Trojan fan base made
when they when they brought in Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Everyone thought, well, look at it was very similar to
the noise UCLA fans had one they brought in Chip Kelly.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Wow, we got Chip Kelly.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I ever him at Oregon he was in the NFL.
Oh more insufferable well, it is because he's getting paid
a whole lot more money Lincoln Riley. And I've said
this about Lincoln Rilly many times. He's like a poor
man's Cliff Kingsbury. Like he's a guy that would be
a great quarterback coach, maybe an offensive coordinator, but he
has yet to prove that he can actually coach an

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entire team. And usc is soft soft football does not
win in the Big Ten. That being said, much more
coming up. This is Fox Football Saturday, all right, keeping
her eyes on the very busy football scoreboard here on
this rivalry Saturday. This is Fox Football Saturday, and.

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Speaker 2 (41:17):
All right, So this is the Rivalry Day in college football.
Of course, next week will be the conference championships and
then we get ready for the twelve school playoff, which
we'll have a bit of a different format this year.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
And I think this was the wise move.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
So last year, the way it worked, the four buys
were given to the four highest ranked conference champions, which
meant that Boise State was the three seed and Arizona
State was the four seed, and they both went belly up.
In fact, all four teams that had a buy went
belly up in their first game. Remember Oregon undefeated number one,

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and then they end up playing Ohio State in a
rematch game, and Ohio State handled them with ease. I
still do not like the idea of bye weeks for
college football. It's different than the pros. Okay, you know,
professional athletes sort of get the idea of a bye
week and how to handle a bye week. But in
college football, if you have a bye week and the

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other team plays a game, sort of gets their feet
under them, and then a week later are playing you.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
You know, I predict it.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
In fact, I predicted last year that all four teams
were going to lose, and they did. I wish they
would either expand the tournament to sixteen, so that everyone
plays the same number of games.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Do you think that's the direction we're heading.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Eventually, they're going to continue expanse and they'll expand it, Nikki.
As long as they know we can make more money,
as long as there's more money involved, we're going to
do it.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
So yes, I do think there's going to be an expansion.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
But now the seeding's going to be done on ranking
has nothing to do whether you're won your conference or not.
Now they will see them as they are ranked one
through twelve in the college football playoffs. At the very least,
I think that's going to make things a little more fair.
Are you a college football playoff fan?

Speaker 5 (43:04):
I like the playoff structure. I like the more teams,
and I get the buy doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Make sense to me, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
But I do like the tournament element of it.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I well, I mean last year was such an unexpected finish.
I mean, here was Ohio State coming out that horrific
loss to Michigan and they basically backdoor their way into
the playoff and then they rattle off four straight wins
and win the national championship with two losses by the way,
and then then and people say, well, they weren't really

(43:39):
the best team of the country. I go, no, no, no,
you don't understand this. In every sport that has a playoff,
it has nothing to do with who's the best team.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
It's who's the best team during the playoff.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
It's the momentum factor.

Speaker 7 (43:53):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Time, no one in a thousand years would ever insist
that the New York Giants in two thousand and seven,
we're a better team than the Patriots. That they beat
him in the Super Bowl, so they're the champions. I
mean that was an undefeated Patriot team. They could play
ten times, the Patriots win nine times. They were the
best team, but not on that day. And that's that's

(44:15):
the beauty or in some ways, if you're a fan
of those teams, the horror of a playoff, you are
one and done. If you don't show up, you have
a bad day, you could lose a team that's not
as good as you.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
And now we have that in college football.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Did you hear they might be expanding the March Madness
bracket as well.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
See that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I don't think. I don't want them to do it.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
It doesn't have.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Enough Nikky Nikki, we don't need it.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, what we call the conference tournaments, right, you already
every there are very few conference tournaments in college basketball though,
don't include everybody.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Not everybody should get a trophy.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Really, it's not even you don't we have the extra
round everybody. If you win your college, you win your
conference tournament, you're in. We had that we year with
Kemba Walker and Yukon. They won five games and five
straight nights to win the Big East title. Had they
not won, they were not going to be in the tournament,

(45:13):
And then they won the nca tournament. They won five
nights in a row. Can you imagine that? Five nights
in a row. And so no, there's no reason to
change the format of the NCAA basketball tournament because you
already have the conference tournaments.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Everyone has a path to win the national championship.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Yeah, I don't think we need more more than you know.
I was just reminiscing on UCLA's first four to final
run in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Phenomenal, awesome.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Unfortunately, you know, they were all in Indianapolis, so no
one early got to go.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Right, So that type of thing I went, I recovered
it yeah, it was awesome. It was one of the
best assignments, I'd say, even bubble circumstances. Considering those, it
wasn't you know, the full march madness feeling. But to
go to a final four and have your uh, your
colors everywhere awesome.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well. The funny thing was when I was sports editor
at UCLA. This is back in nineteen eighty Larry Brown
was our new coach, and we had this unexpected to
run all the way of the championship game the old
Market Square Arena in Indianapolis. It was a different world
back then, but I swore that day, if UCLA ever
gets back to a final four, I'll be there because
my first experience fifteen years later, I'm in Seattle when

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they won the national championship and then they went to
three straight final fours six, seven oh eight.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I was at all those final fours.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
So that was true to my word. Until that year, yep,
twenty twenty one, I just I couldn't it.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Probably you could say it was just a little bit different,
so you didn't need to be at that one. But
now Drew Timmy's on the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Drew Timmy was so bad.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Think about this, so this guy dominated the college level,
right against Daga and certainly dominated UCLA. He was so
bad he went a wasn't drafted, and then he was
caught originally from the G League. But I will give
this guy credit. He stayed with it and then all
of a sudden started dominating the G League. And now yeah,
he's on the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
And one of my other jobs, I'm the sideline reporter
for the South Bay Lakers games. So I've gotten I met.
When I saw Drew, I was like, respectfully, I don't
like you, yeah right, Like he is the villain of
college basketball.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Well when Gonzaggie you see.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Yeah, right right, But even UCLA side, when Gonzaga was
running that year, those three years, he was just, you know,
kind of the thorn in everyone's side.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
And the NBA had no interest in this guy.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Yeah, and he's really he's really developed his game. So
I'm excited. He's on a two way contract now with
the Lakers, which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
All Right, So we're watching talking basketball, I know, well,
I do want to talk about these rivalries though, And
here's one of my concerns about the future of college
foot ball. Nikki. One of the things that draws me
to college sports in general. Are rivalries, these school rivalries
that date back some more than one hundred years, some

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of these rivalries. And with the reconfiguration of all these
conferences and separation, I mean, you know, we think about
the old PAC twelve, right, and all of a sudden
there is no PAC twelve. Actually, tonight you got Oregon
State playing Washington State. They are technically the PAC twelve.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
There's two schools left in the Pack twelve BA two.
It's the Pack two two pack. But they still call
it the PAC twelve. They call it the PAC twelve
even though there is only two schools in the Pack twelve.
But you know, UCLA had the rivalries against the Arizona schools,
the Washington schools, the Oregon schools, you know in the

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Bay area obviously with Stanford and coll you know, Stanford
and cow A now in the ACC, Washington, Oregon, USC
in the Big ten Arizona aras on to State, Utah
and Colorado, and the Big twelve and.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
The Big twelve and the Big Ten aren't the Big
twelve and the Big ten. They're like the Big eighteen.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yes, the Big ten has eighteen. Yeah, so you're getting
away from tradition. And you know, we were talking earlier
about Lincoln Riley. So Lincoln Riley is hell bent on
eliminating Notre Dame from SC schedule because he can't beat them,
and it's.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Like, dude, you can't do that, dude. This is a rivalry.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
This is the great greatest intersectional rivalry in the history
of college football. Between the two schools, they have fifteen
Heisman Trophy winners, countless national championships.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
And it was a.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Tradition started by the great new Rockney and Howard Jones
at USC. They had known each other for years. New
Rockney was trying to, you know, get people to discover
this little school in South Bend, Indiana. No he knew
if I if I travel with my team coast to coast,
people will get to know us. And it worked beautifully
and built the empire at Notre Dame. But the idea
of a limit something like that, there's no way. Oh,

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they're they're serious. Note I don't like Notre Dame cares
because they're beating SC these days. But Lincoln Riley, who
was really talking up a storm this week about this,
is so great. The rivalry with Ucla shut the f
up us EF. I can say this from my dad
who went to FC. Beating Notre Dame was bigger than

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beating Ucla. That is the game on USC schedule. Notre Dame.
That's the game. I mean. Ucla is big because it
could be back in the day for the Rose Bowl
obviously the inner set, but that doesn't compare.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
To Notre know the Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
And Matt Liner was telling me because he and I
grew up watching Matt and Reggie and like those were
that made me fall in love with college football.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
The run they went on.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
And I was talking to my go, you know, I'm
a Bruin. I don't know if we can be friends,
like joking, right, And he goes, oh, no, I love Ucla.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
I have a lot of friends who are Bruins. Blah
blah blah.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
He goes, Notre Dame. I cannot stand them. And you
know that's the type of rivalry. Yeah, we need to
keep alive in college football. And you're right, we're losing.
We're running the risk of losing some of those legendary
showdowns with all these realigning conferences.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, well, at my attitude about Lincoln Riley trying to
eliminate Notre Dame from the schedule. If he can't beat
him or beat them, then hire a coach that can Ooh,
instead of eliminating one of the greatest rivalries in the
history of college football, how about keeping it and then
actually hiring a coach that can beat him.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
What's the value proposition for keeping Notre Dame though?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Value?

Speaker 6 (51:45):
Yes, Well, first of all, keep in mind, I want
to keep playing Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
But I think about this, if you had beaten Notre
Dame this year, you'd be in the playoffs. Sure right, Sure,
I mean it's essentially it's a ticket to the playoff.
If you can't beat them, then you don't deserve to
be in the playoffs. So that's why Notre Dame has value,
because they're an elite stool that you built one hundred
years of rivalry with and now that they have the

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expanded college Football playoff, beating Notre Dame is probably your
ticket to get into the playoffs. So, like I said,
hire a coach and actually beat Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
But I think from USC's point of view, they have
to play an entire Big Ten schedule.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
What is that Notre Dame's never been a member of the.

Speaker 6 (52:29):
Big time, I know, but like, that's what USC is
saying at this point is they have to play an
entire Big Ten schedule and then on top of it,
they also have to play Notre Dame. And I understand
why they don't want to play Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
No eat beat that.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
I mean really, but this is all the product of
everybody clamoring for a playoff, and like this is what
you get as it turns into the NFL bit worse.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Look, I don't know what you think. I know you're you.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Follow USC football. Do you honestly think that Lincoln Riley's
going to survive this year?

Speaker 6 (52:55):
Well? Yeah, who are they going to hire? And who
are you going to hire? Who are you going to
bring in immediately? I don't know if anybody's better than
Lincoln Riley. Who are you going to bring in that
stops the wave of decommits and transfers out of USC?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Well, do you think your two wide receiver is going
to be back next year?

Speaker 6 (53:12):
No, but they're just replacing them with two also great
wide receivers. They have the number one class in the
country coming in next year.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
And you got to keep them after one year and
they don't transfer report a lot of town.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
Yeah, but they're definitely leaving if Riley gets fired. Yeah,
I mean I would bring Lane Kiffin back, but that's
not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
So why not the athletics anymore?

Speaker 6 (53:35):
Want to take that LSU drop in us? He doesn't
have the money to pay Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
They don't have any money.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Has more money than anybody. If they want to spend it.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
Well they will when they're done selling these lawsuits. It's
been a feltings of school. But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
All right, Well, we'll see what happens today. Uh usc
uc a light coming up a little bit later on.
I've gone gone quite a ti rade here, Nikki about
Lincoln Riley, you got me started.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
I love it. I honestly just want to let you cook.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
All right. On the other side, though, we will get
to some of the NFL news, is get ready for
all the games? And how crazy were the three Thanksgiving
Day games? Plus what will happen yesterday? And how has
that changed the dynamic of what to expect as we
head into the month of December around the National Football League.
This is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Armin Nikki k Fox

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Speaker 5 (54:25):
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Speaker 4 (54:47):
Of your screen. Love the Jams.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So tomorrow, End Zone Radio. We get started at ten
o'clock on the West coast, one o'clock on the East Coast,
have seven games kicking off. It is going to be
tough to top what we've seen already this week in
the NFL. I mean three amazing well not not always
about competitiveness as opposed to the outcomes of the three

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Thanksgiving Day games, and then what happened yesterday between the
Eagles and the Bears. I mean, if you'd said, all right,
here here's what's going to Lions are going to lose
at home to the Packers. The Cowboys on a short
week are going to beat the Chiefs. The Ravens coming
on a five game winning streak are going to get

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routed at home by the Bengals, and the Bears. Bears
are going to go into Philly and beat the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Bears.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Now, if you had parlay that four ways, man, you'd
be swimming in a lot of money. Maybe some of
you did out there. I certainly would not have predicted
any of that. But again it brings up and I
go back to bow for a second here because Bo's
you know, one of his critiques of certain teams is well,
who would they be? And my answer to that is,
who is anybody beaten? Give me any team it's safe

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as a feather in my cap. I got to win
over them. I guess the Rams right now would be
the closest thing to that, because currently they're on a
hot streak.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
But I mean, what does it mean to beat anybody.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
In the NFL right now? Anything? I mean, it was
like who have they beaten? I mean, it's like, who
is anybody being.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
The only team I think you can really pull the
schedule thing with as the Patriots right now, because they
have legitimately not beaten Buffalo. Yeah, one time, that's it,
that's a divisional game. Well one time, I expect that,
But like.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Okay, did you expect the Bears to beat the UH
Eagles yesterday?

Speaker 6 (56:43):
No? Why why would anybody expect.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Exactly, why would anybody expect it outside of the fact
that we said all going into the week, so you
had the Bears and the Patriots, their strength of schedule
was the two weakest strengths of schedule in the NFL.
So that was sort of like, Okay, that's why the
Bears were eight and three before that game, and you
know New England's at ten and two. They've had the
weakest schedules, and I'm like, what what week's schedule we're

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talking about? The entire league is weak.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
I want to hear I want to hear Bo's thoughts
as an Eagles fan.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Are they done?

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (57:18):
I'm not allowed to say what I want to say
on terrestrial radio, Well XM we could.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
He has made it clear he is not a fan
of Jalen Hurst and he's not a fan of Nick Sirianni.
Correct so, and he, by the way, he even said
that after they won the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
Well, what does Nick Sirianni do is my question? What
exactly does he do? Because he doesn't he coaches like
Philadelphia Eagles. He doesn't call plays, he doesn't run the defense.
He's suppose he's there to be the chief vibes coordinator,
and the vibes are awful.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Well, let me ask you this, what does Dan Campbell do?

Speaker 6 (57:52):
Calls plays?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
How's that work? Do they look anything like the Ben
Johnson runoffs?

Speaker 6 (57:57):
But that's just because they lost Ben Jonson?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
The reality with Dan Campbell is he's some raw rock
guy in the locker room. But then in reality was
Ben Johnson. There was a real architect of that high
power attack we saw a year ago with the YEA
And now he's running the Bears. How's that working? Certain good?

Speaker 6 (58:17):
I didn't think the Bears would be able to replicate
the Lions rushing attack the way they have because Swift
and Menungay both looked. You squint your eyes real quick,
and it looks a lot like Montgomery and yeah they dibbs.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, Manon, guy's been quite a fine, to say the least.
And then then he had the Ravens. See the Ravens.
We go into the season, Nikki and it's like the
Ravens and the Bills. Boy are they do right? If
anyone's going to finally, you know, break the stranglehold the
Chiefs have had in the AFC, it's going to be
the Bills or.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
The Ravens always knocking on the door, and the.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Ravens, you know, they get, you know, off to a
bad start to got worse obviously when Lamar Jackson went out,
comes back and although they're not looking super great, they're
starting to win a game. And now you're playing a
Bengals team that comes in at three and eight, their
season's over. Some people were questioning whether Joe Burrow should
even play with really nothing on the line, and I'm like,

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what do you mean play? The guy's getting paid zillions
of dollars, he wants to play. Let him play. And
the Bengals blow out the Ravens in Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
That was the power of belief, you know that they
had the hope factor coming back with Joe Burrow.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Yesterday.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
What happened to the Ravens or not yesterday?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
I mean Lamar jacks Am I right?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Lamar Jackson's had three straight games and no touchdown passes
or rushing touchdowns?

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (59:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yep, three straight games zero and zero, So maybe Lamar
Jackson's time is coming? Gun hm, I mean is he
going to get back to where he was?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Or A wait to say that, Martin wants to come?

Speaker 9 (01:00:00):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I'm asking you, hey, everybody, baby, nobody's beat anybody?

Speaker 10 (01:00:07):
Oh Lamar Jackson three games, no passing touchdowns?

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Does he look like the same quarterback to you?

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
But he's hurt to he done?

Speaker 9 (01:00:18):
Is he he should just retire?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
It's time for Lamar Jackson come homes has played in
his last Super Bowl? You believe that, right? I mean
it's a possibility.

Speaker 9 (01:00:26):
Sure.

Speaker 10 (01:00:26):
Okay, Poor Nikki k is up here saying no.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I don't think Lamar Jackson should just quit.

Speaker 9 (01:00:34):
I don't think it's ridiculous.

Speaker 10 (01:00:37):
To think that the guy who's been to the last
seven straight AMC Championship games.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Might make another one in his career.

Speaker 9 (01:00:43):
I'm just what what's going on with Steve? What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I'm calling it as it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Everyone is. This is the season of denial in the NFL.
Like every time the Chiefs like win a game, they're
like back in the Super Bowl like that before this
game against the Cowboys had all all the crews making
the iron update your pick for the Super Bowl Chiefs.
I will agree with.

Speaker 10 (01:01:05):
That there has been an inflation of well, if they
get right, they'll be dangerous.

Speaker 9 (01:01:09):
I was ignoring the fact that several teams.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
They gave us five hundred yards of the Cowboys that
Chiefs defense bags man, he'll lock them down. Get out
of here. They're a shell of them for themselves. Forget
the Chiefs, forget the Bills, forget the Ravens.

Speaker 9 (01:01:28):
About the Broncos nine and two?

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Are you a believer in the Colts and the Broncos?

Speaker 9 (01:01:33):
I talked to me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Okaytriots, here's the thing about you got two different teams.
Every team is flawed in this league right now. Colts
offensively when you got the number one running back in
the league this year with Jonathan Taylor has been and
you have a quarterback see Daniel Jones, as long as
he just plays smart. He's already had a game where
he didn't and what happened? They go belly up. So yeah,

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they're in can tension. And same thing with New England.
Why would we dismiss the Patriots right now? They have
the best record in the NFL. Who have they beat?

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Over?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
God again? Who is anybody beat.

Speaker 9 (01:02:12):
I mean, I don't have a big problem with the Patriots.
I think they're pretty good.

Speaker 10 (01:02:15):
I'm just that's what you've been saying for the last
hour and a half. I'm just who if they beat
on there, just quit.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Anybody beat there's no quality.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
We should just call it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Okay, who are you picking in the AFC?

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Right now? NICKI give me give me your AFC team
in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 (01:02:33):
Who is it going to be?

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I want you on the record right now, Nikki, who
is going to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Give me? I I'm not impressed by it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
I don't have a clear I know you don't, but
you got to pick somebody so quick. Pick a team.
Is it going to be the Bills? Is it going
to be the Chiefs? Is it going to be the Ravens.
Is it going to be the Patriots? Is it going
to be the Broncos? Is it going to be the Chargers?

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Don't I don't feel good about any of those teams.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
So you're not going to go on a record with
any of them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Pick one. I feel weird saying this, but the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Okay, she says, the Patriots. They could have if things
continue as they are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
The field advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Could it very well be the Patriots are as relevant
as a pick as any of these other teams in
the AFC, you know, and by the way, by the way,
the Houston Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Who do you have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I'm still staying with the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
What Martin? What about you?

Speaker 10 (01:03:40):
I think Steve is buying into his own season of
disbelieved that he found the culprit he's staring in the
mirror I picked.

Speaker 9 (01:03:46):
I had picked the Broncos to start the season. I'll
stay there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I had the Bills beating the Broncos in my preseason
picking the AFC championship game. So I'm gonna stick with
that until I'm proven wrong. So that was my preseason prediction.
Bill beat the Broncos in the ANFC championship game.

Speaker 9 (01:04:04):
I'm surprised that.

Speaker 10 (01:04:05):
They're going to have an AFC championship game. The way
you're going is like, do they even have teams worthy of.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Making the like he's giving let's just call it now,
Like call it quits.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, Thanksgiving, We've had enough football this year. It's not
about quitting. It's about calling it for what it is.
There's no rhyme or reason to anything in the NFL. Again,
if you had been able to correctly predict the outcomes
of all three of those Thanksgiving games and then tapped
into the Bears winning at the Eagles, you are no
stra Damas. I mean you, I mean you were.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
You are seeing things that no one else could have predicted.

Speaker 10 (01:04:39):
Steve, a guy who bet on all three Thanksgiving Day
games and was correct on the money line for.

Speaker 9 (01:04:45):
All of them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
You also thought Michigan had a chance today against Ohio State.

Speaker 9 (01:04:48):
They would no, but it just doesn't help you have
an offense like Michigan. Does you bobble at.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
How much money did you pay for underwood? Eight of
eighteen sixty nine yards and a pick?

Speaker 9 (01:05:00):
Two million more than completions?

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:05:03):
Today? So that's that's a new that's our new metric.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
You know that we know that Bo wants to get fired.
Nick Sirianni, do you want to get rid of your
coach at Michigan.

Speaker 9 (01:05:14):
The problem is it's too late.

Speaker 10 (01:05:16):
This is why Jim, this is why it's all Jim
Harlboll's fault, because the way that he left that Michigan
job was going to be under like eight billion dollars
or eight million years of show cost penalties and so
on and so forth, so they had to give it
to somebody in house who could then take it over.
Like right now we have a Ferrari being driven by
a bus driver.

Speaker 9 (01:05:36):
That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
All right? Do you are you excited about the possibility
of both Michigan and USC bolting the Big Ten to
become independence like Notre Dame.

Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
Sign me up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I'm with you.

Speaker 10 (01:05:46):
As long as you play Ohio stated, as long as
you play Ohio thanks Saturday after Thanksgiving, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Okay, let's find out what is trending right now, and
let's check in with Martin.

Speaker 10 (01:06:01):
Julius saying was not hit one time in the backfield today?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
He had all day.

Speaker 10 (01:06:07):
It's not hit one time, and it was a crime
against football that touchdown for Jeremiah Smith. So I'm gonna
say had two touchdowns today, but anyway, it wouldn't have mattered.
Twenty seven to nine, Ohio State beach Michigan. Ohio State
remains undefeated, playing Indiana for the Big Ten title. Ryan

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Day getting a win over Michigan after that's his second win.
He's lost the last four in a row, so he
goes to two and six against Michigan all time number five,
Texas Tech with a mollywopping of West Virginia forty nine
to nothing BYU beat used Have forty one to twenty one,
and twelve Rade Miami trying to sneak into the college
football playoffs beat Pittsburgh thirty eight to seven games active

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right now at the.

Speaker 9 (01:06:50):
Half for all three of them.

Speaker 10 (01:06:53):
We got Oregon and Washington the sixth right Ducks with
a six point lead over the Washington Huskies thirteen to seven.

Speaker 9 (01:07:01):
Washington had just scored going into half three to three.

Speaker 10 (01:07:05):
LSU and an interim head coach and John Tier the
Oklahoma quarterback. He's already had a turnover with a thranked
to Oklahoma and LSU tied at the half, and that's
again at the half. Vanderbilt punched it in as the
first half was expiring, twenty one to twenty one. Diego
Pavia ten for seventeen won sixty through the air and
one touchdown. Bishop for A Tennessee fourteen carries ninety two

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yards two touchdowns.

Speaker 9 (01:07:28):
That's a good day. He's had that in the first
half and we had won.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
How many years has he been in college? Pavia Pavia
is that six now? I think it's seventh seventh because
you had the waiver. Actually, I believe both quarterbacks in this.

Speaker 10 (01:07:43):
Game, both Diego Pavia and Joey Aguilar, would not be
able to play in this game had Pavia not successfully
sued the SCBA to get his waiver for an extra
year of college football.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
He's six years.

Speaker 10 (01:07:55):
Six years, so you know, Van Wilder, Diego Pavia, Martin Weiss.

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
I was only there for five though.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
I didn't read shirt though played all five years of
binge drinking and going to football games and in the
NBA Minoa tim.

Speaker 9 (01:08:12):
Wolves and Boston Celtics.

Speaker 10 (01:08:13):
Boston with a thirty six to thirty two lead, started
the second quarter there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Back to you guys, Steve, cheer up a little bit.
It's the holidays.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
I could not be stage well, you know, it's a
rough day until it's gonna be much better when U
c l A B sessse too.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
That's right. I kind of think they're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
See that's a good positive right there. Believe No, it's
it's not about what I'm trying to say here is
that it's the national See you said earlier, Nikki, you
like parody, like everybody's the same.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I'm not a fan of that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I like dominant teams, even if it's a team I
root against. It's sort of that's the bar. And so
when you have a dominant and this goes across the
bar for any sport, when you have a dominant team,
they become sort of the identity of that leak. And
I think that's a healthy thing. If everybody's the same.

(01:09:16):
I'll put it this way.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
I don't think parody means being the same.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Well, pretty much they are now, aren't they.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Well, I mean, like I think in terms of I
advocate or I like the parody, that means you can
get any any outcome on any given Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Well, but what's an upset anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
And if you don't have, if you don't have a
dominant team, you're saying, that's not really an upset. And
I mean it was the Bears over the Eagles really
an upset.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
He's upset.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
By the way, now all of a sudden, everybody's just
jumping down the Cowboys bandwagon. The two Super Bowl teams
were a year ago twice, and that's two wins.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
In four days. America's team.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
He saw Jerry Man, he was all pap up.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
I don't know if I'm ready for a world where
where the Cowboys Vans come out of the woodworks.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
It has already happened, happening.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
It has been thirty years now since not only the
Cowboys won their last Super Bowl, the last time they
even made it to the conference championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
BO question for you, what so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
The Eagles are trying to snap a streak the most
consecutive year, are winning back to back NFC East crowns.
It hasn't happened since the Eagles rattle off four and
oh with Andy Reid from one to four, we thought
the Eagles were safe, that they were at the very
least going to win the NFC East. Are they still
safe or are you concerned about the Cowboys?

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
I don't know. I think the Cowboys like two three
point wins over teams that haven't been great don't move
me a ton. Both the games at home too, So
let's see what happens when Dallas has to go on
the road. I don't know who they play. I know
the Eagles play the Chargers, the Raiders, the Commanders, the Bills,
and the Commanders. So if they can't win three of

(01:11:17):
those five, then they're probably not going to win the
NFC East. And I wouldn't put it past him because
they haven't looked good at all. No, I don't know
what the hold up is with with Kevin Patulo. Like
I know he's not the only problem, but he's the
only one you can fix in the middle of the season.
I really don't know what they're waiting for. And if
Nick Siriranni doesn't want to fire him, then guess what

(01:11:39):
Nick Siriannie can get fired to. That's that's that's the an.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
See what happened? You thought I was the only one negative?

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Yeah, we vibes.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
The Eagles have the most expensive offense in the NFL,
and you would not know that watching them play.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
He just wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
And it carries over into the defense, Like people were
getting mad at the defense for for how they played yesterday,
but they only gave up ten points through three quarters,
Like it's not too much to ask your offense to
pick yards.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
That they give up on the ground two hundred and
eighty tons.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
How is even possible be an NFL team can run
for that many yards in the game.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
Yeah, but they only scored ten points.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
How do you give up two hundred and eighty yards
on the ground.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
Because you're on the field too much, because your offense
can't do anything. Your offense goes three and out every
single time you're on the field, way too much.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
The Bears had two hundred yard rushers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
When's the last time the Eagles? That happened to the Eagles?

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
It was a long time. You were probably you were
probably twenty years old when the last time, so that
would be a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Long time ago. That's back in the seventies. Man, that's
a good era. You guys should have been around back
in the seventies. I can only imagine you guys like
disco and then the disco era. The height of that
was unbelievable, it really was.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Did you have some flair pants?

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
I did, attom.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
I'll show you a picture during the break, all right,
coming up on the other side.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
It is our l O L moment of theouns.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Steve Yes, laugh out loud, cold you Well, I do
know that this is Fox Football Saturday, Fox Football Saturday.
As we are wrapping up a busy day today in
college football Rivalry Saturday. The next week, we will know
which teams are going to be heading into that college
football playoff, then I'll be making my Heisman vote. I mean,

(01:13:27):
there's a lot of things coming up on the college
football scene.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
By the way, who are you voting for?

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Are you allowed to tell us?

Speaker 9 (01:13:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Okay, so you can't do that, And they're serious about this.
I'll show you how bad this is, nicky. So, the
year that Matt Barkley had his great junior year at
USC twenty eleven, I did not have them on my ballot,
and I told that afterwards, and USC fans were irate.

(01:13:56):
And the next year Marquith Lee, wide receiver for a USC,
he was very much in the chase. So I cast
my ballot and somebody on Twitter came after me about you.
I'm sure you screwed over more like you did Matt Barkley.
I'm responding to a tweet I said, well, as a
matter of fact, Mark Quise Lee got my third place slot.
I didn't think anything of it. A few months later,

(01:14:19):
I get a letter in the mail from the Heisman
Trust with a photo copy of my tweet wow with
the date on it, and said you're in danger of
losing your vote.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Yeah, they're dead serious about that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
So we will not ask you to reveal who you're
voting for.

Speaker 7 (01:14:35):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
I can't reveal untill after the vote is announced.

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
Can I ask you who you're not voting for.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
I am not voting for USC's crew.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
Are you not voting for Jeonmetier? I'm not voting for
Jeometeers horrible? How was he ever a favorite for the Heisman?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Well, when they beat Michigan, that was like that early
game the people thought, you know, he was on the radar,
then he got hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
I know he is one of the worst quarterbacks I've
ever seen. I hope he's listening some so you can right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Now, the way they played out today, it's either going
to be Mendoza or saying to win the Heist and Trophy.
There's nobody else because one of those dud's got to
win the game. Next week, one of them is going
to play well enough, and that's going to be it.
The top two ranked quarterbacks and passing defficiency on the
top two teams in the country, there's nobody else in
the conversation. So that game will decide it and most

(01:15:24):
likely will decide my bom. So there you go. Okay,
So the rool moment of the week.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
My Lol, did you hear about John Morant coming for
Clay Thompson and it just going at him with some
jobs and it's like, John, do you know who you're
talking to? Clay is NBA Royalty? That to me was
laugh out loud. I mean John, and what's going on
in Memphis is a whole other debacle.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
But I thought that's pretty uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Well, what do you say?

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Do what?

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
They're trash talking?

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
They gotten involved in a scuffle, but it's more like,
you can't you can't go after Clay. Clay is probably
one of the most beloved characters in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Well, it's a little difficult because I actually have known
Clay since he was fourteen years old. Uh huh, because
his father and I were partners together on the radio.
Michael and we were covering the NBA Finals in two
thousand and four Lakers and Pistons. The one of the
Pistons blew out the Lakers that was in a shack
and Phil Jackson after that, and Michael flew his two

(01:16:33):
youngest sons, Clay who was fourteen and Trace who would
play with the Dodgers who was thirteen, to Detroit to
hang out with us. I thought that was great, And
we're going to take the boys to a Tigers game
on a day off. And then the day we're going
to go to the game, Michael goes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
I really don't want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Can you take the boys?

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
They let me get this straight, Michael.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Is a funny, funny man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
So you fly them out from Portland they were living
at the time, all the way to Detroit to take
make him to the game. And their dad's not going
to take him Uncle Steve is So I did. And
I will say this about both Clay and Trace. I've
run into him many times over the years. They still
talk about that game was yesterday awesome. They still call
me mister Hartman.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Mister I love that family.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I do too.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Absolutely wonder if your moment of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
My l ol moment of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Well, I will say this. I mean, I think it's
sort of carrying on pretty much what we've been talking about.
But my LOL moment of the week was all the
people jumping back on the Chiefs bandwagon after their victory
against the Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Because I never took it seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
As I've said, when I talk about the NFL, it's
not that I'm anxious to see what's going to happen next.
The NFL has never been more predictable than it is
right now. But I laugh when people blindly ignore the
obvious that the Chiefs are not the team they were
and it's not gonna happen. It's over.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
They've had an incredible run.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
They went to five Super Bowls and in seven straight
AFC Championship games. It's over. It's over. All good things
come to an end. So yeah, that was my laugh
out loud literally leading into their game with the Cowboys.
All these all these inside the Chiefs are back. There's
still the team to beat in the AFC. They may

(01:18:31):
not even make the playoffs, to be honestly, not only
do they have to win their last five games to
even have a chance, but they need help on top
of that. So that was my laugh out. Yes, yeah,
Klay Thompson. Great family. How do you know the Thompson family?

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
How do you I know Michael from being at Lakers
games a lot. He's always so kind to me. I
interviewed Trace when he was with the Dodgers, and I've
always just been such a big fan of Clay and
everything him and Steph did.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
In the Bay. I like the way he played played
basketball in his prime.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
You know, this was when Clay was in high school.
So Michael moved the family from Portland to the Los
Angeles area and Clay, you know, there's a little cheating
going on. You know, we're age where they hold players back.
So said, you're not eighteen year He was on the
younger like he was a seventeen year old high school senior.
And Michael Thompson was reaching out to UCLA and USC

(01:19:36):
take a look at my kid. He can play, he
can shoot. Yeah, weren't interested, but he wanted to play
in the Pac twelve. So he signs on at Washington State.
It was like, Washington State, where are you going? And
the rest obviously is history. So could have been a bruin.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Could have been a bruin.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
He begged bed Ben Hallan back in the day. Come on, coach,
take a look at my boy. You can change the
course of history out here, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
So uh uh, it's been a pleasure. Steve well Cabinizer scrooged.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
Ebenezerganizer, did you not egg me on to be as
harsh on Lincoln?

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
Isis as possible?

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I like, give me a final score on the US
EUCLA game.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
What's going to be UCLA twenty four, USC seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
I'm gonna echo that we're gonna go for the upset
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