Steve Hartman & Veejay Huskey Talk 2025 NFL Draft, Shedeur Drops, NBA Playoffs, And So Much More!

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Speaker 4 (00:45):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, we we have a lot to cover. It seems
like three hours is a lot. Believe me, it's a
blink of an eye considering how much time we have
and how much we have to say on a very
busy data also includes a lot of talk about the
on going NBA playoffs. Also JP Morosi John Paul Morosi
is going to be joining us later on the show,
not only with Major League Baseball talk, but a little

(01:09):
NHL talk as well.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
So with VD and I would text each.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Other, and after day two of the draft, I texted
VJ one line. I said, a couple of tough days
for shudor no response, And I know VJ because he
likes to engage in conversation, and that was his way
of saying, you'll get my response on Sunday. So, my friend,

(01:41):
it is all yours. I want to get your thoughts
on what just transpired in this year's NFL Draft.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Well as always, Man, it's always great to be here
with you, partner, Man, Hartman and Husky, all of our
great Fox Sports radio listeners lands out there, Man, VJ,
Riws get big of another funny in the build, then.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Always a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Like Steve said, we got a long day today, so
let's let's get right to us. So I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna tip too a rodit so I'm gonna
dive right into it. Everybody that listens to the show
knows me, follows me, knows that I support coach Prime,
always have when he was a player, uh going into
to Jackson State and then on the Colorado, pulling for
them to win, pulling for a Sun to do well.
Shiloh Chador Travis Hunter, the whole nine. So I always

(02:24):
catch a lot of flak for my support for Shador Sanders,
but what I what I just saw was one of
the most egregious and one of the most bs and
one of the most typical business middle American things that
I've ever seen in sports. And a lot of people
aren't gonna like what I'm gonna say right now. But

(02:45):
my my, my whole thing is just tell me where
I'm lying. If you even not like what I say,
that that's fine. I don't do this business to get
people to like what I'm saying. I like thought provoking
sports talk, and we can agree to disagree and have
fun and entertaining and entertainment fans.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
That's how I get down. So just tell me where
I'm lying.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Though, because the first point I want to throw at
is you tell me the last time someone was projected
to be a top five pick and at.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Some point the number one overall pick to fall like that.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
You tell me the last time that a guy was
going out here and throwing for four hundred yards in
college at a big time university, in big time games,
with the spotlight on him, with all the attention on him.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
This isn't Timmy Chang, who no one saw play at Hawaii.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
This isn't Graham Harrold, who nobody watched play at Texas Tech.
I don't think I've ever watched the Graham Harrold Texas
Tech game. I see the statsu saw the highlights all
the time. Why the hell would I be watching Graham
Harold of Texas Tech at that point?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
But we watched you, Dors Sanders. We tune into Colorado,
so the world saw.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
So the world saw four thirty seven, four fifty five
these games where he's pinpoint passing, avoiding the rush, getting
the ball downfield, to his play like leading his team
as a leader.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
That's my first point.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
So I want to know the last time someone that
put up that type of production, with that type of
pressure on him, with everything that's hanging over his head,
and I'm trying to still figure out what he did
wrong because the kids.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Got some confidence. So that'll be my next point.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Because we're still living in the age, especially in sports,
where young black athletes have to appear to be a
certain way and come from a certain elk or the smallest,
shortest thing they'll say can make you put verbs and
adjectives with their name. And that really gets to me
and bugs me because I've never heard Shadir curse. Hear

(04:31):
I didn't see Shadur grab his crotch toward the other
players after a coin flip.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
During the game.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Like, so, I didn't see Shador Sanders do anything wrong.
He's got no criminal record, he's never been in trouble.
He's never cussed out the media. He's never done these
things that we've seen other players do.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
He didn't drive a car and kill anybody. He doesn't
have any DUIs.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
He doesn't have any arrests, he doesn't have any assault,
he doesn't have any domessics.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
The man follows God. He's a Christian, his dad. All
he does is full with confidence. But what the hell did.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
You expect you was gonna get out of the kid
who was birth from Dion Sanders.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
What'd you expect you were gonna get him?

Speaker 6 (05:13):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Well, you know, I just want to come in and
you know, do my best, and they're.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Getting a hard worker in it.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, all that stuff that people say in these first
round people who go out there and say still.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Go out and flop their asset of the NFL. This
idea that this was just Oh, Dad, you put the
tape on.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
If you so, then why in the hell were the
scouts saying he was a top five pick and probably
the first overall pick until the combine started, which my
illustrious party, who I respect fully sitting to my left,
have been talking about since the combine because he started
to speak because he doesn't actually need your NFL money,

(05:51):
he really does it. His dad is rich, he had
a Bentley and Colorado. You think he needs your NFL money?
See the NFL in people.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
They want certain people from certain backgrounds who have to
grovel to come to you, gravel and beg Yes, please
take me because I'm from the trailer park. Please take
me because I gotta save my family. Please take me
and give me the opportunity to be in my dream.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You're not used to someone not really needing you and
letting you know, hey, if you want to win, I'm confident.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I'm not coming in with this bes humble crap. I'm confident,
but I'm a man of God. What is your door
Sanders done to fall like that that? We've seen other
people get caught d u Y get caught on camera smoking.
We have assault charges versus women in college, domestic issues,
all types of stuff, and you still get dressed and

(06:43):
they because they're talented.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Okay, I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna stop there. I'm getting
I don't I don't want Okay, Okay, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna Steve.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's a culture. Things stand well, Okay, let's let's let's
look at the dynamic here. Because of all the stories
that came out about his interview with Brian Dabel and
the Giants, which, by the way, today Brian Dabel is
saying the reports that came from Todd McShay about that
meeting are not one hundred percent accurate. Now the draft

(07:15):
is done and he got the quarterback he wanted. Remember this,
you're Brian Dabel. You have been given a reprieve to
coach another year with the Giants. You failed with Daniel Jones.
You told us this is the guy we gained forty
million a year and you failed to deliver him to
be the quarterback we.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Thought he was going to be for fifteen. So now you.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Have one chance to get the quarterback you want. My
guess what Shador was this is that you're Brian Dabel.
You've got to pick the quarterback that is going to
do what you want to do. You just talked about
Shador Sanders in reasons that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
He doesn't need the NFL.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
This is a kid who, because of his father, has
lived a life of privilege. It doesn't mean he hasn't
worked hard and it doesn't mean he hasn't busted his
ass to be the best quarterback he can possibly be.
But he has lived a life of privilege because of
who his father is. That's just a fact. And I'm
sure that indeed, if Brian Dabel had presented him something

(08:20):
that he wanted to break down, you know this was
a Todd McShay thing, and that he did not do it.
And basically the way it was presented is Brian Dabel's
sitting with this young quarterback saying, hey, I want to
get your thoughts on this, and Shador, who's only been
coached by one man, his father, has said, no, I
don't need to do that. I mean you got you

(08:42):
got you see me play?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Why am I doing that? You believe that?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I believe to some not to that degree, but I
believe there was a certain something there where Brian Dabel
was like, look, I'm not your father. I'm going to
be your coach, so you're gonna do things the way
I want to do them. I don't think Chador is
one hundred percent comfortable with that. I know Brian Dabele
was not comfortable with that, and so that's why Brian dialble.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
But that doesn't account for the other teams.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So my feeling on this entire thing is the irony
of this whole situation. Because you said he didn't need
the money. You're right, he doesn't need the money. So
whether the Cleveland Browns selected him second overall or one
hundred and forty fourth overall does not change the fact
that the only two guys he has to beat out

(09:32):
to be quarterback is Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel, and
he's the best quarterback of those three guys. So the
irony in this entire situation, with his unprecedented fault, there's
never you were saying, when's the last, It's never happened, never, never,
never number one also one forty four, okay, never unless
there was some kind of scandal.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
But even with that, even with that, like like you know.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like Randy Moss wore sunglasses at the Heisman Sarah and
he dropped him down the drop, but he was still
in the first round. Aaron Rodgers still in the first round.
Most of these guys are cosmoke you weed it Pitt
exactly and so you know, but not all the way
down to one forty five. So the irony of all
this is is that this could actually work beautifully for Shudur.

(10:17):
The difference is instead of getting first round money, he'll
be getting fifth round money. But it doesn't change the
fact that he's going to a team that needs a quarterback,
and right now, the way I look at it, he's
the best quarterback in the room.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
So he is going to get.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
That opportunity to be the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns,
which a lot of people had thought maybe they would
take him second overall. Well, they took him one hundred
and forty fourth overall. The only addition is Dylan Gabriel.
He certainly should be able to beat him out. So
I mean, ironically, with all this noise, it could still

(10:53):
work out well for Schudur Sanders in his effort to
be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
I appreciate the optimism, but that's not what this is
about though, It's about how this was done. It's about
how it happened because now we can go and like
I said, I appreciate the optimism.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
But that's what Well. Look, he's in the league.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
He should be happy to be there, or he's got
the opportunity. A fourth round pick is different when it
comes to contract. I talked to a San Diego charge
of player just yesterday that I'm very close with.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
We'll not throw his name out there, and said, what
does this mean?

Speaker 7 (11:26):
Give me something NFL football wise that the talking head
doesn't feel he goes When your fourth round draft pick,
it is easier to get rid of you. Your leash
is way shorter than a first round draft pick because
first round draft picks are so expensive.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
But they're not going to get rid of you realize that,
don't You saw?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You saw the reaction in the draft room. You saw Stefanski,
You saw they were they were like, what just happened?
We already took our quarterback, now we're taking another one.
The word was it's a has who has a friendship
with Dion Sanders as man.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
They are a mess. But how many teams think about this?

Speaker 8 (12:08):
All right?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
So I mean the shockers are all over the place.
Obviously the shock draft pick Jack was that was out of it.
That was first of all, no one even know how
to pronounce the guy's name, right.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I told you they would move the Jaguars, I said,
the Jackuars. I told you then to move. Oh no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'm talking about the Saints taking the guy. Oh god,
the seven year guy.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Year old guy at a lotus bully looking at is
a show. Is a shock. That shocked. That was like
a shock. And I'm like, who is this guy? Who
is he? He is like seven years and seven years
in college? How about this?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
He played little league baseball apparently with Cody Bellinger he
was coming to So that was and he was the
third quarterback taken. But the real kick was when Cleveland
took Gabriel and I'm like, wow, I mean that is
the gut punch of the gut bat.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Here's what we got to do on this whole thing,
because obviously we don't want.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
To spend you know, all three hours. We got a
lot of draft talk, but you have plenty of NBA
to get to. I love where you're coming from. I
don't disagree with it.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
VG. I really don't. But my point is, let's let's
turn the page.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Look, he was during the during all of this, he
was basically professing his love for God. He didn't he
didn't bitch or moan or groan everything else. He's still
jumped in the pool when he got the call that
he was going to be So he seems like a
great kid. I've never seen anything other than good from
this kid. I equate it to Bronni. You know, lebron

(13:42):
Is is a great father and Dion's a great father.
As a father, you're doing everything you can to help
your kids live at dreams. Shiloh was not even drafted.
He signed with Tampa Bay. He'll get an opportunity to
be in a camp if he can do it, make it.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You're talking about jobs security. Here's the thing. Talent wins
out one hundred percent of the time. If Shador Sanders
produces on the field and makes all the throws that
he made.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Steve, who's successful there, right, Bernie, We're gonna go back
to him.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, look again, you can change the dynamic.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Who was successful at New England before Tom Brady?

Speaker 2 (14:22):
But you're talking about this, Yeah, but who was in
the goat when he was a six round pick.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Helps to have Bill Belichick as your coat? Well, help
you know who made who? By the way, did you
did you hear about the Belichick interview to that? Of course?
Of course what is up with that? Up with him?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is up with him and his girlfriend? Like she literally
is now like the puppet master with him.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Hey, listen, I want to keep it.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Want to interview on CBS network and I'm asking, so,
how did you guys meet?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
And she steps in and goes, we're not going there
a B? Like are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
I call him be a B. Double do your day, homie.
Don't let the world tell you what to do. You
owe these your last days. If she if she a puppet?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Wow? Hey ab double wow you play. If you haven't
seen this interview, it was mind boggling, old man, I
just let her do you know? Wow? That was embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Oh hey, we got a lot around to government. We
also talked, well, there was a draft. There wasn't just
about sdor Sanders. There was a draft. We're not gonna
give any grades out because no one's played a single
game in the NFL, but there were some interesting moves
and certainly some interesting storylines going into the new season.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
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Speaker 3 (16:14):
Of your screen. All right, keep an eye right now.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
The Knicks off to the early lead, and of course
this would be the death knell of the Pistons. They're
down seven of the half, Pistons losing Game three after
getting the split at the Garden, and they need to
win today.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
So right now, Nicks leaded by.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
A score of fifty to forty three. Later on, we
got well, that Lakers Timberwolves game. We'll get to that
in a moment. Celtics, Magic, Pacers, Bucks. So a lot
of NBA playoff action we're going to be talking about
on this Sunday, But right now we're doing a little
wrap up on the draft. You know, when I thought
about what Cleveland did with the second pick in the

(16:53):
draft and trading down with Jacksonville, so Jacksonville moves up,
and you know, obviously they get a superstar talent. It's
not often, obviously that you're looking at a player that
is both the best receiver in the draft and also
the best cover corner in the draft. And the Jacksonville's
made it clear they're gonna give him every opportunity to

(17:17):
do both. And part of this is, obviously Jacksonville needs
something right now. They need to bounce back from the
collapse that they had a year ago.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
But they need eyeballs. So let me ask you this,
do you believe he is the.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Kind of player where the country will revolve around I
got to see what this guy does next. Is he
that kind of a player?

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Absolutely, he's that kind of player, And that's the kind
of player he's gonna be and hello, VJ to Hard Knocks,
VJD to Hard Knocks.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Your team's picked, Your.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Team's picked, Your team's picked, and the ratings will be
off the charts. Because everybody wants to either love this
kid or hate this kid.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
So that's what you.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Need, right You need a villain and you need a hero.
The thing is, this kid's both in one. You either
love Trivis.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
I've never met anybody that's indifferent on him. You either
love the kid or oh guy, he's trying to do
too much.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
You can't play both ways because, first of all, the
game is not as as physical as it used to be.
So you can go both ways if you wanted to.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Coaches are just afraid to do it because players are
not gonna want more money to do it. That's the
only reason why there are at least twenty players in
the NFL right now that could go both way.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Why do you think a kid that was considered the
number one recruiting the country on.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
To Jackson State?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Absolutely because Deon Sanders said you can do it, yes,
and I'm gonna give it.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
And remember he got hurt that year.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, he got hurt his first year at Colorado and
then last year he stays healthy and walks away with
a Heisman trophy exactly. But he went to Jackson State
because Deon Sanders said, I know I've done it. I
played one year full receiver. I've done it with Dallas
full season. Well yeah, and played both ways, so I
know it can be done.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
I believe you can do it.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
And that's why he ended up at Jackson State and
obviously followed Diona Colorado.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
No, this kid's got the goods man, his ball skills,
his athletic ability. Just there's certain things about I coach football. Okay,
I'm not just not right. It's just a fact I
coach high school football. I can look at a kid
and say, this kid, he just has it. He needs work,
he needs the lift, or he needs to run more.
But there's something in him that he had when I
showed up. I can't coach that in him. No one

(19:17):
coached that in him. He was born. That's God given.
God said here's a little gift for you. Let me
sprinkle a little bit of this in you and you'll
see what you do with it in life. And that's
what he's done. That's what Travis hunter is Jacksonville. This
was I told you they would move up or down,
and when it happened, I said, Okay, at least I
got that one right, since I missed on the Giants
your door. Fine, cool, But I did say that Jacksonville
or New Orleans would be one of the teams to move.
When Jacksonville did say, okay, thanks for making me look right,

(19:39):
thanks for helping me out. But they had to do
this because you do need something and this dynamic of
a player to speak to those injuries. He played over
one hundred plays average per game. That's called conditioning. So yeah,
a guy hurt of jackson Okay, he was young, he's eighteen,
got hurt of Colorado. Hey, it's a step up man.
Now you're playing well. Now you're playing both ways against
bigger competition. But that offseason, coming off that sophomore year

(20:01):
is when he put the conditioning in. And then the
following year not her best player in the nation, Heisman
Trophy winner, and.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Look, damn near could have been a number one overall pick.
You end up going number two, could have been the
number one overall pick. If I Nashville tend to see
what it said. You know what we'll work with Levis
one more year. We can't miss out on this kid.
Jacksonville said, oh no, no, no, we're gonna go get this kid.
I think he's the goods.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
And for those to say he can't do it, that's
what they told show. Hey, o'tani, you can't do it.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Right, you can't do it.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
It can't be a starting pitcher. And then on your
off days be a D. You can't do it. Christy
home runs right, you know, and then when he can't pitch,
it only is a DH. He's still a fifty to
fifty guy. So, I mean, there are certain athletes that
transcend all others.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I agree that.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I think Travis Hunter has that opportunity. I hope he does.
I hope he can stay healthy. Look, I was there
at the beginning of bo Jackson, do you have a
no parable was ask Jackson is playing major league baseball
for an entire season, no offseason in football. He's playing
full time major league baseball. He would show up in
the middle of the year. And I told you the

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first practice he had with us in nineteen eighty seven,
we were all obviously we're excited. We still couldn't believe
it was happening. It's October. We needed a spark, and
he shows up. He literally had not played football.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
In two years, two years. And so we're out on
the practice field.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I'm watching this guy and how he was you know,
how long was one of our star players? And you know,
we practice was over and I said, you know, I
know what I'm seeing, but you're on the field.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
What are you seeing? He goes, this guy's on a
different play.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
He's a two hundred and thirty pound backs was running
at four two forty and just showed up. And so
and then and he did a year after year after
year until the career and injury. And that's that's the
scary part, you know, you don't you know, Bo Jackson,
had he only played football, would be in the Hall
of Fame, if he only played baseball, could be in
the Hall of Fame. But he was creating something he'd

(22:03):
just never been done before, and he became this huge
celebrity deservely. So I just hope for Travis Hunter's sake
that we can see this playout as we've seen.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
It with Show.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hey, now we don't even know Show he's ever going
to pitch for the Dodgers. I mean, they keep kicking
that can down the road. But you know, but they're like, well,
do we really need him to pitch? Look what he
just did as a hitter. I mean, we won the
World Series. He goes fifteen to fifty. So I just
hope he does stay healthy. So we'll see how that
plays out. But on Cleveland's end of it, if Jacksonville
does not have a good year, look a look at

(22:36):
the draft stock Cleveland has going into next year, which,
by the way, we don't know what kind of quarterback
arch Manning is going to be. We've been hearing about
it for two years. Ironically, the guy that kept him
on the bench barely made it into this draft. As
a seventh round pick by the Miami Dolphins. He was
the thirteenth quarterback. Take a Quinn yours thirteenth.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I tried to mean so, but he kept him on
the well, he kept he kept him on the bench.
He said in Charansford he should have never declared just
trailed because you know it's our just time. So I
get it. You gotta go.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
I get that bar, but you're not NFL ready hit
the portal, earn another three million dollars.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
We'll go in next year.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Again, look what Carson Beck got to go to the
U four million bucks to lead Georgia to the U.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Four million bucks.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Not a bad payday, much better than you're gonna get
as a seventh round pick in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
Lots of stuff. This is gonna be like a thirty
minute Let's go on. We're in a full on soday.
Mon See's only it's.

Speaker 9 (23:35):
Not gonna be thirty minutes.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Sometimes that right now, it's not gonna be thirty minutes.

Speaker 9 (23:39):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
There is a lot going on in sports that is correct.
A lot of NBA playoff games today, starting with Game
four between the Pistons and the Knicks from Detroit.

Speaker 9 (23:49):
It is halftime in New York.

Speaker 8 (23:50):
Is up fifty to forty three. They also lead the
series two to one. The leading score and right now
it's Tobias Harris. He is four of twelve, not shooting great,
but he's got fourteen points five for Detroit and the
leading scorer Karl Anthony Towns thirteen points and six rebounds
for the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
This is just.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
One of three four games actually happening in the NBA.
Minneapolis Timberwolves Lakers. That starts at three thirty eastern. Lakers
losing that series right now two games to one to
the Timberwolves. Then it's Game four between the Celtics and
the Magic from Orlando, and it ends in Milwaukee as
the Bucks are trying to even the series against the Pacers,
with tip off.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
At nine to thirty eastern.

Speaker 8 (24:26):
We also have NAHEL playoffs going on right now, and
the Blues just scored to take the lead against the Jets,
so they're up two to one with about six minutes
to go in the second period. But the Jets do
lead that series two to one. We'll move on to
Major League Baseball. Lots of games going on right now.
It's all Mets over the Nationals. Six to one is
the score. Bottom of the third inning. The Blue Jays
are up on the Yankees one zero. It is the

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bottom of the third inning in the Bronx. The Yankees,
how the bases loaded and they still got two outs
to go in this inning. The Tigers are up on
the Orioles two zero. Top of the fourth inning. The
Twins are edging the Angels one zero. Top of the
fourth as well. Red Sox up on the Guardians to zero,
top of the fourth inning in Cleveland, and the Brewers
have had another run. It's the bottom of the first inning.
They're up on the Cardinals three zero.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Back to you guys, Oh yes, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Here.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's not that we were listening to everything you were saying.
This show is moving at warp speed, right.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
That's a lot going on real quick. How Yes, I know.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
I always think about you and Mally when I watch
the Clippers. Now, man, I was so excited to see
the way that game was turning out, Kawhi taking over.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
The way he did yesterday. Man, but for the end
like that that dunk was illegal? Yeah, I was gonna
say it was not legal.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
His two fingers still in the ball because the way
they're doing in the frame is once the light goes
on for some reason, then the ball leaves his hand
like that in the frame.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
WHOA see, People don't understand fingers are still in the
ball exactly. Whether you are taking a three point shot
or dugging it, the ball has to clear one hundred
percent clear our hands before that light goes on. We
replayed on TV twenty times last night.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
I'm like, but that's the way when he dunked it live.
The first referee goes like this.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
And I'm like, okay, I was like, I said, all right,
over time, I said that that can't be good. Like
the ball is clearly in his hands on on the dunk.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
The light goes on. You can see the light goes
on and it's it's hard because he's dunking. But again
the ball, it doesn't matter, it's a dunk. It has
to be clear of your hands before that light goes on.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Would you do it? I think the league is not.
I think the league is not doing the Clippers any favors.
How about that?

Speaker 9 (26:36):
I in lifetime.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
I don't know how you call that good, which I
think they called it a basket, which was hard to
overturn it, which was the problem.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
I was there.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
It didn't look like it was out of his hands,
but it was really close and you could I agree.
I don't think it was out of his hands.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
You were there. How was that on TV? Just felt
was that atmosphere just banana's in there? Yesterday?

Speaker 9 (26:55):
I don't think it was as bananas as it was
the first game out into it.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
All, especially when you're twenty two points at the start
of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Yeah, No, we did not shoot the ball well. I
don't even think really Kawhi took over. I think we
were not shooting the ball well at all from the beginning, honest.
And it was a rough shooting performance by the Clippers
at the end. Like, obviously we cut the deficit because
of defense.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
But well where was that early?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I mean, even why after the game is like, you know,
we we got it, he said, Look, we got to
review the film here why we played so well in
the fourth quarter and why we didn't play well and
came out again. When you blow a team out by
thirty four, this series seriously could have been a four
game this.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Week for the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Absolutely, it's fine to you know, we knew this was
going the four or five though is historically six or
seven because there's normally a game or two.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
So did these two teams end up with the same record? Fifty?
They're the same record. I'm a serious.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I don't be surprised if the Clippers go back to
Denver win game five.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I would not. I wouldn't be. I still think they're
the better team, but.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
They have these lapses they do, and you can't do
that in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
You have to do it to also to joke, I
just you can't let him go ballistic thirty eight thirty.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah you can't. Like there's gotta be in. Zubac is balling,
But if someone else has to entirely I think, has
to deploy like a double you gotta get the you
gotta blitz him and get the ball out of it.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
We've actually been pretty successful when he's one on one
because he throws up. He has such great assists that
it doesn't help to double team him because it leaves
somebody to cut and drive in. So actually him being
one on one has eliminated a lot of the cutting
from Gordon or Michael Porter into the basket.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
Where he throws behind his back or like whatever.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
We've eliminated that by keeping Zoo on him one on one,
and I think he's doing a good job.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
He's but a great job.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I would just blitz him, though I'm not saying double him.
Once he gets the ball, send a second go blitz.
I get that he has to give it up at
that point, make somebody else come beat me.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Much much of my TV schedule here in La revolves
around the Clippers.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Right now, I'm confident they're gonna win this series.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I still am by the way draft coverage of on
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That's shipstation dot com Code Sports, all right, VJ. I
know you've been, you know, sort of taking in what
happened first couple of days, a couple of rounds of

(29:16):
the draft.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Again, if it doesn't happen the first two days, it's
a bonus. Like if you.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Find somebody in rounds four through seven, it's not by
planned sometimes it's by luck. Then you got the right guy,
right place, right system, right time type of thing. But
when you miss in the first three rounds, that's brutal.
I mean, at the very least, you need starters. You
need guys that will contribute to your team. When you're
drafting guys in the first three rounds. Now, none of

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these guys have played a single game in the NFL.
But anybody catch your eye.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Here, VJ.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Yeah, Man, the pick early that called my eye, it's
the elephant in the room. And that was ashing gent
u to your raiders. And you call that when I
think most people can see it outcoming. But you have
to look at like the pkarro Rice. It's a new regime.
Pee Caro's gonna want a power game, and off the
power game, you can play action. You have Brock Bowers
and I and I was a guy saying Brock should
have went number one overall coming out of this draft

(30:07):
because he was clearly the best player in the draft.
And it's showing it now it's gonna open up. This
guy's gonna have one hundred plus catches for about thirteen
hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Think about it, about fourteen to last year.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Now you Gino Smith Garbage, who you know is one
of the most accurate passers in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
But coming off of this rookie with these young legs,
with this young body at five, oh my goodness, yeah
good luck. Let me tell you something. Now, you're gonna
need him because Hardball's defense will punch you in the mouth.
The Denver defense will punch you in the mouth. After this, yeah,
Spags defense will punch you in You got Pete Carroll exactly.
But and Pee Carroll likes the back that punches back.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's not Josh Daniels. It's not Dennis Galla. Yeah yeah,
Pete yeah, Carol Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Another one to Coaston lovely shout out to me.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
She get They went bananas in the first round for
a team that Soco had a down here even though
we beat Ohio State, but getting getting getting Caleb a weapon,
been like that to now go with Roma Doonza. See
what's happening with Keenan Allen surprised that the ball he's
he's the best tight end. Look at the garbage that
was throwing to him in Michigan last year. Go back

(31:11):
to when JJ was his quarterback and people said he
should have came out then he was gonna be a
top ten pick.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
He still ended up being a top ten.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Pick, having five different five five quarterbacks last year. Throw
him past this. I love the Kenda Grant pick for
the Dolphins. The Dolphins went interior and I loved it.
They didn't really take no skill guys. They took the
tackle out of Arizona in the second round. They looked
at us, Okay, we've got to add to the Turches
because we got to help these two ends out in
Chubb and the Phillips, and we lost Wilkins.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
We know we got Zeeler.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
We gave him the money, and we know we got
Ogbah he's starting to resurface himself.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
But let's go get some young talent.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Let's go get a just a whole eater a guy
where you because you got chase around. You gotta chase
around who Josh Allen and you need somebody to push
that pocket which we haven't had in a few years.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I love the.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Kenneth Grant picks taken Jackson Dark, who both of us
said would go in the first round in the twenties. Yes,
but for the Giants to take him once again. Okay,
you brought in Russ, you brought in famous Jameis aka
krab Legs. I told you one of those guys are
not gonna be on the opening day roster. You cannot
go into this season with the veto. He's gonna be

(32:21):
gone if you're gonna keep these three. But Wilson or
Winston are They're not gonna be on these opening day rouns.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I mean, look, let's make it clear, Brian Dabos future
is hanging on Jackson Dark, right, and Jackson Dark can
throw the football. I mean, I've seen this kid. You
gotta play that year roun usc days. It's exactly canny
handle the moment, especially in the spotlights and the pressure.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
That's gonna be with the New York Giants.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'll tell you a team that I thought did a
really good job again and that's the Rams.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
The Rams, the Rams. This is amazing.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
So a year ago they get two of the top
three finishers and defensive Rookie of the year after Aaron
Donald retires.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Right, so what do they do this year?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
They get the tight end, the great kid out of Oregon, Ferguson,
But then they take Josiah Stewart, the edge out of Michigan,
and then later they take the big defensive tackle out
of Ohio State, Ty Hamilton. And I'm saying to myself, look,
I know this going back to the Raider days. You
can never have enough depth on your defensive foe. If
your defensive front is not putting pressure on the quarterback,

(33:24):
you're not going to win in this league.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
So they doubled down.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
They're like, wow, we got you know, we had two
guys hit big time a year ago.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Now they add to that.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Again, so you know, and so you know there are
some but again, until I'll never forget this, this goes
back when the Chargers rafted Ryan Leaf, right, and so
the next day all the San Diego papers, I'm down there, right,
They're like, hey, plus, hey, plus draft, and I'm like, okay,
well we'll see.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
He did win his first.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Two games, and then the third game was that infamous
one for fifteen four yard game against the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
The rest is history.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
But I at that point my partner and I said,
you know what, instead of grading the draft the day after,
it's like grading a test before you take in the test. Right,
Let's give it three years. Let's start every year. We
did this for years where we look back three years. Now,
let's hand out the grades for the drafts. Well, even four,
you're right, but I thought three at least gives you
a time.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
You know where I get three? It was I think
Joe Namath made a comment about three years, like if
you haven't made it after three years, it's not impossible.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
But you know, I like that for the real also
real on Tampa received I'm sorry Eboku, Yes, from Ohio State.
I loved him a lot.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Give him Baker another weapon for that office there.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I thought that I actually I actually projected him for
the Chargers. I had that, but he was gone. Yeah,
and they went with Hampton the running back. Good pick
for them as well. All right, coming up on the
other side, will continue on with a little spin on.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
The draft right now.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
And yeah, we're also going to get into these NBA
playoffs series. Any surprises, we'll break it down. This is
Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
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Speaker 2 (35:13):
Harvin Huski here Fox Sports Sunday. And the Pistons have
come back. They have even up this game against the
next fifty five all five and a half minutes ago
in the third. Not exactly prolific scoring going on in
this game right now. Wow, fifty five to fifty five
with five minutes.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Ago is missed up. Talking about my squad like that,
you're trying to throw your live I'm.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Gonna predict them.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm gonna predict the Pistons make a shot here, boom,
look at that.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
There we go and we got the lead back. Let's go. Okay,
we but I think the Knicks are gonna say, wait,
it's my squad.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, well, they're gonna I think the Knicks are gonna
come down and hit a three point shot here.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
You guys, notice that when it's this Steve and I've
had Hartman and Husky. Every time I tell him I
like the team, he starts to go against something.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Like well, like all do you get through everybody?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Say, see, I told you I might have ahead of
you on the scale.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
I knew you were trying to be a smart ass
when you text me about Shadoudi the other night.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's the reason why, that's the real reason raw, I
was baiting you. I'm a bit and let's and guess.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
What I didn't. It didn't bother me. I didn't take
it personally.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Bring it, but no, it's Steve Hartman, Lazy and gentlemens
have never texted me.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
We've done radio off and on for seven years. I
have never once well, I received a text message from
Steve Hartman, lazy and gentlemen until then, until then, and I.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Knew exactly what he was doing. And I just I've
just flipped my phone down on the couch. I said,
I'll see his ass on Sunday if he thinks, if
he thinks, I'm gonna go back and forth over.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Text about this.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Nah, but no I And that's what I like about
partnership and radio. It's it's supposed to be that dude,
you should be able to text your co host and
talk a little trash and it'd be fun.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Man, Like I knew. I knew what you were doing
the minute I saw it. It pissed me off a
little bit. Okay, you know what is what is sports talk?
If it's not trash talk? Right? What is sports talk?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Because what you know, I've been doing this now for
what is it now, thirty six years?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Thirty six years of sports talk radio.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
And there's nothing different from what I've done on the
radio for thirty six years that I didn't do for
twenty years prior to that with my buddy.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Right in the barbershop or in the locker room, you've
got a water cooler, everyone's trying to press.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I know more than you. I know more than you.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I'm the smartest side of you when it comes to sports.
Don't be telling me your garbage. I'll tell you what
is exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
That's how I hate people say, well, VJ yos, did
you know your talk? Everybody in this business always thinks
they know what they're talking about.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Some of us are just a lot more confident with
it and are real enough to when they were wrong.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
And here is the beauty of this.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So I had all these stats I knew, right, So
I'm like, I got this.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'm the stack kid, I'm the stack guy.

Speaker 8 (37:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, here's the one thing I know about stats, having
just you know, devoted my life to sports stats, is
that I am fully where that sports stats do not
tell the story.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Right, but but they give you ammunition for an argument.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
So you can use a stat and I can manipulate
a stat anyway I want to back of my argument.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
That's how sports stats work for me, and they've always
worked for me. Are you used stats like that? Oh
many times? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
By the way, I want to bring in Chris right now, Chris,
you had a stat yesterday. Wait, so we are. He
had two quarterback stats. I want you to listen to.
You've got some good stuff every now, line test stats.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
All right, here's so blind test stats.

Speaker 10 (38:32):
So we've got to both these quarterbacks won the Unitis
Award in their respective years. One had around forty one
hundred yards I believe thirty nine to ten touchdown to
interception ratio about a seventy four percent completion rating. Okay,
quarterback two four thousand, seven hundred and seventy eight passing

(38:54):
yards thirty eight nine is the ratio, and I would
say it's a little over seventy one seventy two percent
completion percentage.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
So basically the same numbers. Okay, what's the question? Who
are those guys and what rounds do they go? One
of them is to we'll talk about a lower No,
that is incorrect.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Okay, well one of them is the one closest to
your heart. I think you got so.

Speaker 10 (39:22):
So the one with the more passing yards also won
the Uniteds. Just just tell me what round you think
in the draft he went, the other guy, the other
the other guy.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Second.

Speaker 10 (39:33):
That was the stats of twenty nineteens Uniteds winner Gardner Minshew,
who went in the sixth round.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
So what's your point. I think that.

Speaker 10 (39:42):
Some people have jumped into college football stats a little
bit as a tourist and don't understand that the production
that Shaeddar Sanders had at that point is actually not
that extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Okay, here here's my god, Okay, here we go on.
I'm gonna get to go really going after the top
they are because we're up against it right now.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
So the one thing we really did not talk about
with Shador.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Is is his actual on field talent. So we'll get
a little into that along with the NBA playoff coverage.
This is Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Oh yeah, I'm.

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as a quarterback, forget all the other outside noise just
as a player, I do want to call in Shae,
our brilliant producer, Shay, how are you today?

Speaker 4 (40:58):
It's good to see you're doing amazing.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
We got a half hour.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Away from Lakers tipping this thing off against the Timbolves.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Are gonna be okay, I'm I'm a little nervous for today.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I'm not well.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Obviously, I don't think it's far fetched to say this
is a must win for Lakers.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I mean it's great.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I mean, down three one is not impossible, especially when
you have two of the next three at home before.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
But you know the way that well, Lebron James one
of your personal favorites.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
VJH God.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I mean look, I mean, well, look what he did
the other night. Get you got a flu bug? I
guess whatever was affecting Duca. And so you know, Lebron
oldest player ever to have at least thirty five points
in a playoff game.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Thirty eight points, beautiful thing.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Yeah, and he's because he's you know, he's because he's
so old and everything and he can still do it.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Did they win? Okay? Because I remember when Kobe used
to have them kind of games.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
You know what I used to hear fans say, well,
he didn't win, he tried to play hero ball, He
tried to do it himself, if he'd have passed and
worked more of his teammates in data one.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
But when Lebron does it, it's wow, what a performance. Because
he's older or he's off. This agent is of this.
If you actually go put the tape on and watch
the game. Lebron James after a thirty eight point game,
it was a clear shay, are you walking out of
the studio right now?

Speaker 5 (42:23):
It was a clear hero ball. Let me go out
and get my stats because if we lose. If we lose,
they'll say, well, I did my job. All the Clutch
TV fanboys will say he did his job. All the
fans on twits that, well, he did his job. But
y'all like saying that when they won.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Okay, here's something that shay. Okay, here, here's the thing
that got to me about that game. So it was
tied late and then the Lakers don't score a bucket
in the last four and a half minutes. But what
really got me is when they had the official review
and there was Lebron on yucking it up.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Pissed me off.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
What was he doing with members of the.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Timberwolves and Monty were just talking about that.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And I'm like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Let me get this bright. This is like a game
that I said going in, the Lakers needed to win
this game three. I agree, and it's a close game
late and you have the officials review going on and
you're hanging with the other teams during the timeout. I
agree there and you are laughing, laughing, it's a timeout situation.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
What are you doing? So you know why he was
doing that?

Speaker 11 (43:33):
Shit?

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Why was he doing that?

Speaker 5 (43:34):
And I tweeting? Then you can go back and looking
to I tweeted what was happening. He had his numbers
at that point, he had his stats at that point.
At that point, the winning is okay if we went cool,
but if not, hey I done. You're right to sit
there and be laughing the team during time happen busting
as Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
No, I agree, he's too comfortable. I think it's more
of a I've been like, he doesn't understand this, the
intensity of the playoffs anymore because he's been there so much.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Okay, this is.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Why I agree with This is why I will get
back to what I have said, and apparently VJ has
said it as well. This is his last year as
a Laker. I still don't agree with that. I mean,
after a thirty eight point showing in the playoffs, I
don't think really he just needs a start talking.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
To the bottom eye.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I think thirty eight went out the window when I
saw him during a timeout late in the game.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Games on the line, and.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
You're not with your teammates, with the other teams. Act
he's played twenty two years in the league.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Okay, then he's getting to he's gotten too company.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
I think he's.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Honestly sending a message to the rest of the team
when in his career has it not been his team.
When it's not now the team, it's now Lucas team.
And he goes out, he has a hot hand, he's
making shots. Lucas struggling because he's under the weather. Yes,
and he was basically almost mocking the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I hated when he did that. That was one of
my least favorite Lebron moments I've ever seen. When he
was talking to me and especially in the last four seconds,
took me out the pasture. You wanted to the way
out the pasture.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Remember I told you this, guys. Then something doesn't smell
right there.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Right after when they made the trade, but before Luca
could play, I'm covering the Laker game. They bring Luca
out to the middle of the court to introduce him
to the Laker crowd for the very first time.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
But when they did it.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
They did it when Lebron was trying to do his
powder I swear I looked at Bill Pulashki in the
person I said, oh, wow, are you and we all
laughed because we all knew what was going on. I
was like, oh, you got y'all have pissed him off.
Now you're gonna introduce his replacement when he's trying to
have all the attention on himself and do his corny
ass powder thing he's been doing for twenty something years.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
And that's the game. He came out of hit like
his first four to three pointers. One he took a
logo three with.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
The RS out and I looked at everybody said, I
told y'all, y'all, y'all have made this guy mad.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
That's not sustainable. But he's trying to send a message
to you guys right now. And I kept telling people this,
but I'm the hater.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
They will go as far as his ego allow them
to go this year. And understand, it's not your team
no more. It's just got prove it a thirty seven,
thirty eight point night.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Don't get y'all dumbs no more. That's not your role.
Also to not just on him.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Alston reeves played way too much hero Ball, and I
think it's kind of getting in his head that people
are starting to accept him and give him his props
way too many times. He's trying to like split defenders,
spin through products and we're not sure.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Okay, well, this game is gonna be tipping off here, Shay,
I think you agree with me.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I mean, it's who is this is?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Well, you know what, last night I said this, I
had to make a prediction, and I picked the Lakers
to win this game, just feeling like, Okay, I gotta
believe that Lucas gonna feel better than he did the
other night. But how is it if he does a
Luca game, how is that gonna affect Lebron's thank you?
That is he gonna take a backseat or is he
feeling his oats now that he's coming off that kind

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of game? Is he going to be a situation like Luca? Look,
you know what, I appreciate you. I love your game.
This is still my team and that's just still my team.
And in a must game like today, this is going
to be a power struggle between Lebron and Luca.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
I completely disagree. I think we're going to see something
more of like a Kyrie Lebron situation today. I think
they're both gonna kind of lock in.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
They're gonna need that if they're going to win.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
I don't think we're going to see Lebron laughing today.
I don't think we're going to see any of that.
I think we're going to see both of them locked in.
And I think we're going to see an above thirty
point game from Luca and.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
The analogy using I don't mind. But this is also
not that Lebron. This is now forty something years old.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
I'm more just saying he's they're going to be locked in.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Lebron is a two cond He's a two way offensive player.
Right now, it's either he's either a layup merchant or
he's a jump If his jump shots not falling, he's
scoring nineteen to twenty one points. He's not going to
get into the thirties. The other night, his three point
ball was when his three point balls fine for nine exactly, yeah,
but the last three what was that?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
That was?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
I was pissed.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Ten feet pissed me up. Before you guys are going
to play the game, We're gonna play the game. Series
tied at one one. Yeah, teams that win Game three
seventy three percent chances.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Which is why I said before Game three, the winner
of this game is gonna win. The second thought too,
but I didn't pick the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
To win today.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
All right, we'll see how this play today, Right, So
I wanted to go over with you, Shudoor Sanders the player. Okay,
So if there's an argument that Shadoor Sanders isn't all that, now,
just bear with me, because I know you're gonna disagree,
but I'm going to I'm gonna give you some numbers here. Okay,
Let's let's start with the obvious negative in terms of

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where we are with quarterbacks now in the NFL. In
two years at Colorado, Shadoor Sanders ran for negative one
hundred and twenty seven yards. He's not a running threat.
He is a pocket passer. He's also a pocket passer
that took a lot of sacks. And yes, the offensive
line was not great by any stretch of the match

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and a Colorado, but he wasn't just taking sacks. He
was taking sacks for huge losses, which also is on
him to get rid of the ball. These are the
kind of decisions that you've got to make in the
NFL as a quarterback, you can't take big loss sacks.
You've got to be able to get rid of the ball.
No one's open, get rid of the ball, find a
way to not take the huge sack. And at Colorado

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he really struggled that. Now we talk about the accuracy,
his two year mark of what seventy two percent, highest
in FBS history, But how many times were you watching
these highlights of him throwing the Travis Hunter who's making
some kind of acrobatic superhuman catch as only Travis Hunter
can do a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
And so their.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Knock on him was is that, yes, he throws a
very accurate deep ball, this is what they us say
about Tua tonguea bai Loa, But his short passes, he
doesn't actually throw the ball effectively as effectively and the
short passes, which is a big part of the NFL game.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
So really, what this comes down to this, if you
are a team that.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Is looking for a quarterback in the draft, that means
you have a coach that's on the hot seat and
he has got to pick the right quarterback or he
is going to be gone. If you look at the
history of the NFL. It seems like every single quarterback
that's in the hall has a Hall of Fame coach.
It goes back and forth. And so this was some
of the scouting going on. Negative scouting that was going on.

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And you could say they're nippicking and they're ignoring all the positives.
But I can tell you this is the way it
operates VJ. When they're looking at guys and they're asked
to find the negatives, and those were the negatives for
Shador Sanders during his two years prolific two years at
the University of Colorado.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
All right, so a few points and I'll make it
as fast as I can. Did you guys look up
all these other numbers for these other quarterbacks you want
to look up for Shador?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I'll help you. The answers, absolutely not. You didn't do it.
You're looking it up for Shador. So you can have
a way, Hey, per fect, put your head phones back
on and jump in here, because I'll give you some
numbers on a quarterback. If he's not sitting over there.
Three and thirteen thirty nine and seven? Who was that?
Who was that? You don't have the answer. That was
cam Ward.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
So basically the same amount of touchdown passes, three less
interceptions in under three hundred more yards.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
So number one, So number one forty four.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
If you guys want to do that cornyas thing that
you did, were, let's go find the number of some
uh some some obscure quarterback and.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Let's see what he did in college.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Let's let's find one guy, because I guarantee you can
find me a guy that's actually really good in the
NFL who threw for less than even Gardner Mintch. You did, right, Okay,
So then let's go to pocket passer. Well, he's not mobile.
How many times have we been told you gotta be
a pocket passer, you have to learn to throw from
the pocket. Lamar Jackson, you're gonna have to learn to
throw for the pocket. Jalen Hurt, You're gonna have to

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learn the throw from the pocket.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Randall Cunneyham, Dante Colepepper, Donovan McNabb, Mike Vick, I can
go all day. You gotta be a pocket power. Oh,
Shardor Santas is a pocket passer, but he's not now,
he's not mobile. I made the point about it many
a times on Martin and VJ.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
I always said, even all the way back to Jackson State,
the one thing I wanted him to clean up. It's
on wax, it's on video, it's on tape. Is you
cannot backpedal when pressure's coming. You're turning a seven yard
sack into a fourteen yard sack. So I will give
you props on that because I've even been that critical
of Shador when he does that, I said, when you
get to the NFL, you're gonna have to learn to

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work the pocket or get rid of the football. But
also in college he has so much on him. Sometimes
you feel like you gotta.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Make a play. We've said it about other quarterbacks for
the last forty years. Sometimes quarterbacks feel like they gotta
make a play. We said it about Jameis Winston.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Jameis Winston throws all those thirty interceptions but leads the
league in touchdown passes. But hey, you're down ten points,
you're down twenty, you gotta throw the ball. You gotta
make a play. You just can't throw it away all
the time. You gotta make a play. So we want
to knock him for that.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Seventy two percent, Well, that's because he throws a great
d ball, but he's not great on the short ball.
Is cam Ward flawless?

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Does cam Ward have some accuracy stuff on certain levels
of the offense he.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Needs to work on. I'll give you the answer. The
answer is yes.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
So saying that she Doan needs to work on this,
but cam Ward doesn't need to work on anything in
that fact, in the last one where the ball needs
to be these highlights where the ball is what happened
to Hey, throw it up to your best player, let
him go get it. Did Matthew Stafford walk his way
into the Hall of Fame doing that with Meggie Tron?
Then obscure quarterbacks do that walking themselves into playoff games

(53:23):
at NFC championship games with a guy named Randy Moss.
So now it's a knock for you to throw the
ball in the area to where your athlete.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Can go get the balls. Some guys you gotta put
it right on them.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
I get that, But sometimes it's like, bro, just put
the ball in the area, I'll their receivers will tail quarterbacks. Hey, man,
give me a shot, just give me a chance, I'll
go get it. But now that's a knot. Listen, we're
not gonna do this. I feel how I feel. Y'all
feel how y'all feel.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
But let's Travis Hunter. You say it, the game you played?
His career with Travis Hunter refuses you.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
And Joe Montana played with Jerry Rice. No, no, no, he
won two Super Bowls for Jerry Rice. I know that.
Where do you get drafted in the NFL? He got
drafted in the I don't. I don't, Okay, So obscure Freddy.

(54:18):
You guys are trying to make these dumb b s
reasons to try to pick a part. Sure, doorstanders, because
there's just because you're not doing it for the other quarterbacks.
You're not. No, you're not.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Look at it's not personal. Here's the thing. Here's the
thing I will conceide this about. By the way, is
it good? Here's what I do want to know moving forward?
Is it going to be Cam Order, Cameron Award? I
remember this with Cam Newton, So it was Cameron Newton
and all of a sudden he came.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
Into the NFL and Cam on and ESPN dot com
they already have his picture with the title.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
I looked that up and it just says.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Because he was introduced at the draft as Cameron did
pay attention us, and so Roger Goodell insaaning his name,
and I guarantee you he said, that's the way I
want my name said with the first pick that you know,
the Tennessee Titans select Cameron Ward, quarterback University of Miami.
And I'm like, is he Cameron Ward now as opposed

(55:18):
to cam Ward?

Speaker 4 (55:19):
If you look him up on Google, if you look
up cam Ward, Cameron Ward comes up now.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Well, because again, when when when you're reading the card
that that says that's how I wanted to be introduced.
Mitchell don't know exactly right, Michael, don't call me Mike
Jordan and.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Everyone was calling him, well, look at it, look at it.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
It's like Patrick Mahomes, right when when people try to
call him Pat Mahomes, his mother says, no, his father
is Pat Mahomes. My son name is Patrick. Oh god,
and that's why Patrick Way. How is it that is always?
Have you always wondered about this? We always say Steph Curry,
but he's he's actually listed as Stephan third Curry. Why
but no one ever calls them Stephan Curry. No, but

(56:03):
he's always listed as Stephen Curry.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
I always, even in person doing interviews, winning in post games.
I've always referred to him as stats.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Has anyone ever.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
But if you listen, if you see his name on
every register ever, it says Stephan Curry everything, And yet
no one calls them Stephen Curry.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Well, most people don't have them, don't get called with
on their drivers line.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
By the way, Pistons lead the Knicks right now, seventy
nine seventy one, trying to get even in this series.
We got seven and a half minutes ago, and yes
we're getting ready for the tip off between the Lakers
and the Timberwolves.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Just how important is it for.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
This Laker team to make a deep run in these
NBA playoffs? And what is the NBA doing to perhaps
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I thought VJ was leaving the building after the Pistons

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suddenly or finding themselves in a dogfight.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
It's a two point game.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Two point game, now eighty one seventy nine Pistons trying
to hang on still five and a half minutes ago,
a lifetime Pistons obviously have to win this game, get
the series even at two, heading back to Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
And it is highly.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Clear in these playoffs so far, the officiating to me,
now I'm going to preface by Saint Look, I'm a
big believer when you get to the postseason in any sport,
you gotta let the players decide it. You know, I
don't want a bunch of nitpicking call. I don't want
any of that garbage that we see all too often

(58:03):
in the regular season. You know, let a few things go,
let you know, let the guys decide sided in this case,
on the court.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
But that being said, it's got to be even on
both sides.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
You know, it's again if you're if you're gonna let
it go, great, but you gotta let it go on
both sides.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I mean, last night we were talking about the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
You know, in their matchup begins Denver and there's a
there's an incident right before halftime.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Norman Powell gets cold cocked.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Cold cocked by guardon Gordon hit him, did he not?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
If you if you hit a guy in the face,
yes or no? Oh? Come on, I've seen guys ejected
for a lot less a lot.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
That's why they did their job last night by not
objectives plo back.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
All I know is the playoffs have been great.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
I think the play now there's been some blows, but
I believe one is supposed to blow out in eight
like that, you're supposed to sweep them.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Okay, well, the age shouldn't even be in Miami, should
not be in the playoffs as exactly.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
But the intensity is all blowing him out?

Speaker 6 (59:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Was would that? That?

Speaker 9 (59:07):
Wasn't that?

Speaker 8 (59:07):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (59:08):
That was nothing like? I loved it. I love it.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
I love I thought hard and overreacting to the foul
from Brown. I thought hard and overreacting.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Then now I don't like.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I like overreaction. I like when you say no, get
your hands off of me.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Do it. But he didn't try to swipe to his face.
He fouled down hard. He swiped down to the arms hard.
What's your coach to do?

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Guy?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I was sitting here yesterday my dear friend Olden Polonies
and we were. We were going back when Olden was
on the courts, you know, during the nineties, when it
was a blood bath, you know, every single game. I
mean you were putting your life on the line playing
in the NBA in those days. I mean that was
a man's game. So no, I like the physical play.
I don't mind hard and going after it. But like
I said, I like the idea of letting guys getting

(59:51):
physical on the court. I don't have any problem with
that in the postseason. But let's eaven it up on
both sides. There shouldn't be foul discrepancies like we had
in game on between the timber Wolves and the Lakers,
where the timber Rolls are called for twenty one fouls
and the Lakers are called for ten. That's how you
suddenly breathe the idea it's eight on five.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Well, I get that, man, But at the end of
the day, you gotta attack. You gotta play hard, you
gotta go get foules. If they're not gonna call it, fine,
then you gotta play hard and you gotta attack. Attack
the rim. You're taking a lot of jump shots, you're
going in saft. It's the playoffs, the reps are gonna
let guys player.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
I've seen it in.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Every series so far, regardless of the outcomes of the games,
of the scores. There is a lot of contact. It
is way more intense. But that is what playoff basketball
should be. If you listen to these commentators, like listening
to Reggie Miller and listen to some of these other
guys that have played. Listening to Shaq and Jalen Rose
yesterday and Charles Barkley there say no, this is what
is supposed to It's not supposed to be like the

(01:00:44):
regular season because you're the last of the breed that's
left of the players trying to hold the Larry O'Brien,
so the fouls are not gonna get caught. I saw
Kawhi complain last night more than I've seen him ever complain.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
He was complaining.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I agree, but there's a lot of contact and they're
not used to being called in the regular season. But
you gotta be coached up and you gotta coach your
team to know. Look in the playoffs, you gotta be
able to you you gotta be able to take some
contact and play through the contact. Don't go soft and
go looking for the reps to bail you out because
they're not gonna do it. You got to play through

(01:01:17):
the contact. I had no problems. That wasn't a cole
Cock man. Come on, that was some guy. Nobody want
to fight, Steve. If they really want to fight, they
they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Even know how to fight anymore, thank you. So then
there's there's not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Give up like the old days when guys actually knew
how to connect with the punch jive al tech Nicols.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Yes, side ball out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
You guys are talking about physicality and all that. So
the series that we're really saying is that is in
the Celtics Orlando Orlando Magic matchup on Yes, what you so?
After injury and injury? Do you think it's really too much?
Do you think it because the Celtics are coming out
and they're saying, after another injury, this is getting absurd.
Do you think it's soft of them?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Do you think it's yes, yeah, I'm one hundred percent
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I mean again, if it's consistent on both sides, if
there were the NBA knows this is a soft perceived
league compared to what it used to be, and so
you can.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
The Magic doing this the entire season.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
The problem the very physical, the physical, that's the coach.
Here's what happened Rockets too. In the nineteen nineties. The
main culprit was pat Riley.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
It was just ironic that pat Riley with his Showtime
Lakers going head to head with the bad boys of Detroit,
then he becomes the coach to the Knicks and it's
like the Pistons on steroids. He took the same, took
it way beyond with Anthony Mason and John starrs Oakley.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
I mean, Charles Smaniel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
He suddenly took it to the net like if you okay,
He's like, okay, if you're going to allow this brand
of basketball, which we were not comfortable with with the
Pistons are playing, I'll show you that b and he
just took it to the stratosphere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Pacers were playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I mean, it was crazy or finally you know what
he got, you know the palace situation with the water.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
The NBA said, guys, guys, and that was an overreaction.
It was overreaction by the NBA. The malice at the palace. Well,
it was also an overreaction by Meta. Let's face it,
I mean, you can't you can't have you seen the
doc though, before you say that, I just talked to
him about it. Okay, well I've talked to him about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I mean he was laying on the table, drink comes flying,
and he went after the wrong guy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Ain't on the table doing what though? Doing his count
to ten, which he said he was taught in therapy
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
I understand, but he the proles that it came in
somebody the wrong guy let him get the ten. He
was trying to do what he was taught to do.
Can't go in the step, No, you know you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
It was a pr nightmare for the league and then
that's why he paid the price and he was suspended
for the rest of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Was at an overreaction, Yeah, but the league had to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
They had to come down on him because you now
had a league that was considered completely out of control.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Do you remember all the Remember that was a Friday night.
Do you remember on TV that night? Do you remember
all the fights that happened in college football the next day?
South Carolina Clemson, the Hurricanes and the U and the
Central Florida game or the Florida later game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
What what happened to the you after their blowout win
over Texas and the Cotton Bowl where they're called for
two hundred plus yards in penalties in that game, mostly
personal fouls. The NCAA said enough enough, but fans love that.
See that's the thing that's entertainment.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
But that's the I feel like you're talking about like
a college atmosphere compared to like an atmosphere your two
year old two or like to an NBA game. It's different.
It's completely different because it should be.

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
Home.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
But I get that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I get that, but I feel you know what you're
coming to when you go to a college, Like there's
gonna be frat boys right next to you. There's gonna
be cussing at an NBA game, there's not necessarily like
I think that's the place way more teams, not NFL,
but you know what you're expecting with those games. With
the NBA, it's different.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Were they are a lot more physicality in this postseason. See,
I like it exactly, you like him. I'm guess what
Adam Silver understands. Fans want this and so that's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
What we're getting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
But teams like the Celtics are complaining. So it's going
to be interesting to see where we go, let's think
about it like this.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
If you like it now, imagine guys like us that
grew up with this in the eighties and nineties, where
this is well, this is was common.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Yeah, this was this was regular season.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
I mean, this was regular season. This isn't this isn't
eighties and nineties. It's good now, but this was regular
season in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yeah, exactly. Let's find out what's rending right now. I
know that Demonci is a fan of the physical play.
What did you think of the little brawl before the
half of your clippers?

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
Oh you thought where Aaron Gordon swung at Norman Powell
and missed And that's why he wasn't ejected because he should.

Speaker 9 (01:05:43):
Have been ejected. So yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
A great Harden overreacted to the physical.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Fouful Brown that started it all. It's a swipe down,
it's a it's you.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
Know, about to give no, I mean, like you guys,
it's it's it's intense.

Speaker 9 (01:05:59):
This game, this.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
Series is literally every game has been won by less
than three points.

Speaker 9 (01:06:03):
I feel like the emotions are high. I was not upset.
I was not upset.

Speaker 8 (01:06:07):
If you want to if you want to start, uh
getting a little physical.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I'm all about it.

Speaker 9 (01:06:11):
I'm all about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Oh look out nixt three point to take the lead. Yes,
there it comes. No, it doesn't come.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Oh he made it.

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
I was like, what are we on a delay? Delay here?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
I have the score ahead of time?

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
I see no, so do I. Online the score is different.
You're right, because online the score is ahead from the TV. Yeah. No,
I'm all about it. I'm all about it. Listen.

Speaker 8 (01:06:38):
I just literally the game started and I'm sitting in
my seats, and the first thing I yell is step
on their throats. That's what I yelled as the game
started as I sat in my seat. I know how
she all right, So I'm all about it. Step on
their throat. I don't care. Uh. The Detroit Pistons definitely
stepped on the nixt throw in the third quarter.

Speaker 9 (01:06:57):
This is a close one right now, Nicks are up.

Speaker 8 (01:06:59):
As you just heard the three from Karl Anthony Towns
ninety four to ninety three with about forty.

Speaker 9 (01:07:05):
Six seconds to go.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
There was a moment where maybe you held your breath
if you were a Knicks fan. Jalen Brunson went to
the locker room. Obviously, he missed the end of the
season with that ankle sprain. He went back on the
core and he just drove in for a layup and
fell and kind of hobbled. I don't know, Jaylen Brunson,
I don't know what they put on his ankle, but
like he's they're definitely pushing the limits on that ankle.

(01:07:28):
He's got thirty two points Jalen Brunson to go along
with eleven assists. Karl Anthony Towns twenty seven points and
nine rebounds for Detroit. Kate Cunningham twenty five points, nine rebounds.
In tennis, is so just shive a triple double again.
Down to the final forty six seconds and New York
is up ninety four to ninety three in this Game four,
where they lead.

Speaker 9 (01:07:46):
The series two to one.

Speaker 8 (01:07:47):
Still to come in the NBA tipping off soon Timberwolves
and a Lakers.

Speaker 9 (01:07:51):
Minnesota leads that series two to one. In hockey, the.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
Blues are just crushing the chests right now. It is
five to one for four minutes to go in the
third period. This is also Game four, and the Jets
lead the series two to one, so the Blues would
tie it up if they hold on to this lead.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
The Mets best team in baseball right now.

Speaker 8 (01:08:11):
They're beating the national seven to one bottom of the
seventh inning. About to start, the Yankees were down. Not anymore,
they have exploded. They're up on the Blue Jays nine
to one bottom of the fifth inning, and it's game one.

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
Of their double header.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
Tiger's still shutting out the Orioles five zero bottom of
the seventh, Twins shutting out the Angels for zero bottom
of the seventh as well. The Guardians are on the scoreboard,
but the Red Sox are still up nine to three
top of the seventh inning, while the Astros are shutting
out the Royals four zero bottom of the fifth.

Speaker 9 (01:08:38):
Everyone's shutting everyone out.

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
Brewers are shutting out the Cardinals seven zero after four innings,
and the Reds are shutting out the Rockies three zero
after the first inning.

Speaker 9 (01:08:47):
And lastly, here in the NFL, the league.

Speaker 8 (01:08:50):
Is looking into how Shador Sanders private phone number was
leaked and used for a prank call two of the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Well, think about this, That number was exclusive, right, the
main general managers of the thirty two teams that supposedly
they were the only ones that had access to that number.

Speaker 9 (01:09:07):
And then not just him, but Tyler Warren is that
who it was.

Speaker 8 (01:09:11):
I think Tyler Warren also, they think he was also
prank called, so Chador wasn't the only one.

Speaker 9 (01:09:15):
But you're right, it was a private phone, literally in
the room.

Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
There is a video of the guy making the phone call,
and the guy next to the guy making the phone
call to door Sanders does look like the son of someone.

Speaker 9 (01:09:29):
That may be a GM. So it's like everyone's like,
that looks like that guy's son, and it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Just like it's interesting because the crank call basically said
we're gonna take you, but you're just gonna have to wait.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
You're just gonna have to And then his reaction was
what was that right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
And later again Shador said all the right things, saying
that didn't really have any effect.

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
On anymore, you know, Oh it's still awful, Like whoever
did it was absolutely So it's supposed to be rumor
has it that Jack's Olbrick, the son of Falcons defensive
coordinator Jeff Olbrick, was behind wow prank call. That's like
what people think, and it's because of the video. The
guy in that video does look like a picture of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Well, if they can actually prove who it was, and
I'm the commissioner.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I'm finding that team a million dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:10:13):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, if not more, If not, you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
I don't know. You gotta have the message. I got
nothing else, man, I got nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Notes on right there, good Sue, all right, thank you, Moncie.
All right, So we're keeping our eye on this. By
the way, they have delayed, thank you, the Lakers Minnesota
game until after this game ends, so they'll tip off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Move back twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Lakers Timberwolves coming up in about twelve minutes. So Nicks
lead the Pistons ninety four ninety three. We got thirty
seven seconds left. That was an absolute prayer three to
give the Knicks the lead. So the Knicks were outscored
twenty eight to fourteen by the Pistons in the third quarter,
and now they put up thirty to twenty two. There was,

(01:10:57):
by the way, a play that we were watching in
which the ball it should have been a foul on
the Knicks, the ball was off the Pistons, and the
next thing you know, the Knicks had a three to
get back in this game because they were down eight
at that point. So right now the Knicks have the
ball and the lead seventeen on the clock, So.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
This is brutal at the Pistons.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Someone, well, I mean, look, here's the thing. You just
need to stop right here. Man, we're thinking too far ahead.
That's anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Well, you just can't give up a three, that is
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
So four seconds on the clock, we got seventeen seconds
left in the game. Nicks are gonna have to get
a quick shot off.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
And by the way, they get to stop here in
Detroit gets the ball Detroit to win the game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
No, we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
I mean, you got this is a young Detroit team.
It's been incredible turnaround for this team. By the way,
shooter right there has been so clutch for this team.
He's got such an interesting career.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Shooter. I mean, he was a key component for the
Lakers when they won that championship back in twenty twenty.
And they got rid of the guy that's crazy, Alo,
got rid of the rise off that of them. He
injected the content, well he did. He rejected the contents.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
So the Knicks right now, they get a misshot. All right,
So the Pistons have the ball. We got the clock
running inside ten and the Knicks apparently had a foul
to give, so eleven seconds left, all right, can't do
play by playbook, Keep our eye.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
On this, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
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(01:12:39):
get back to the conspiracy theories, many of them circling
around the Lakers. I mean, there's just there's no doubt
this is a critical postseason for the NBA. The numbers
are down in the regular season. They came out of
the All Star break and the league was dead. I mean,
the All Star fiasco, whatever they put together with that

(01:12:59):
All Star festivities, it was. It was an absolute nightmare,
worse possibly than.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
What they had prior to that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
And then all of a sudden, now the blue you
got this steal of a trade where the Lakers steal
Luka Doncic from the Dallas Mavericks. The league turns their
head and just ignores the facts of that trade. And
then all of a sudden, you got these mysterious firings
of Jenkins and Minutes Memphis, and you got Malone fired
in Denver, like this never happens. Yeah again, talking with

(01:13:27):
Olding yesterday, he.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Goes, this, never happens. You've never seen that happen before.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Two coaches on teams well on their way to the postseason,
and he fired them within two weeks at the end
of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Never imagined.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
Could you imagine, though, if what you're saying is true,
could you imagine that we were in the world where
the league has gone to where somebody and we know
who we're talking about, has that much power that they
can really manipulate the commissioner or they have the commissioner
in their pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
What secrets do what secrets do?

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
But but we know this about you know, you know,
Silver tries to downplay his power, but he has.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
He has the same power that Datavid. He's said that
we don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I'm sorry, cut loose on that Chris Paul trade right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Yeah, I was about to say, you're going there, You're.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
Going yeah, I mean he he the commission.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
You're not making that trade deal.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
And it's like, you know, commissioners do have that bully
cume back in the seventies at Baseball Commission, he nixed
all kinds of trades. That's Charlie Finley is trying to
get rid of his Oakland A's team. All Right, we're
down in the final seconds. Detroit's got the ball in
the hands of Cunniyamy misses the shot. There's a scramble
and the clock is running out. And the clock is out.

(01:14:39):
The Knicks have won the game. Wow, well you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Got their shot. Oh wait, Bickerstaff's going crazy as a foul.
There's a foul. Oh he is going absolutely ridiculous that
they robbed Detroit like this on that down. Okay, I
just talking conspiracy theory.

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
I'm telling you, just like that, to miss fouls, the
miss fouls, that blatant, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah, but the Knicks have far more value to the
NBA than do the Detroit Pistons.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
That's and you know what, I you know, I got, no,
I got.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Look at that block party and they're celebrating in New York.
This is so orchestrated by this league. Are they're not
going to show the final sequence.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Of what happened? Well, now they're about to what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Was Cunningham had the ball, he gets an open look,
it's he's got a good shot there. He just ran
it too hard. Then there was a scramble under the
basket for the ball, and suddenly there was a frozen screen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
What happened there? He gets found right here, right here?
That's all that's a foul?

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
Is that not a foul?

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
And three free throw? Wow? Foul got him off his feet.
There's no doubt that's a call. They make that call
ten nine and the official.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Is standing right there. He only lifted his arm up
saying it's a three point shot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
And what the NBA will do is put out a
report a second challenge that call.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
I don't know if they have any challenges left. I
don't know if you could challenge it. After the buzzer, though, did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
You guys see that that was clearly a foul jumping in?
I can see it. Can we turn on?

Speaker 8 (01:16:16):
I don't think you can challenge a non call. That
wasn't a call, right, it wasn't can challenge a non
call even if they had a challenge. That's more about
it is crazy, absolutely a foul. But I don't think
you can challenge a non call.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Okay, it's non calls like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
They get people talking like what is going on here?
Trouble for the NBA, Big trouble for the NBA. All right,
we'll continue on this. It's Fox Sports Sunday, Harvin and
Husky here, Fox Sports Sunday. All right, we're getting ready
for tip off now, the Lakers and Tabra Wolves coming
up in the next hour. John Palm Morosi is going

(01:16:56):
to be joining us, And of course we always talk,
you know, major League Baseball with Jay. We got the
Stanley Cup playoffs underway. We'll get a little hockey talk
in there. But he is a Michigan man to the
core and shade, and he put it out there he
wants to talk about the Pistons and Nicks. John Paul
Morose said, I can't wait to hear what he has
to say about that non call on a blatant foul

(01:17:19):
in the corner on a three point shot. Have been
three free throws for the Pistons to potentially win that game,
and they called nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
I bet you in a weak or wherever the NBA
looks at at they're going to call in and say
that was a foul.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
That's what I said last break Well, and then the
NBA will put out a report that that was.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
A mistake, which is the wrong thing in the NBA.
No league should do that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Yeah, because you're giving credits, Shay, you have no idea
how many times friends that don't know or don't live
out here from the East Coast, they think because I'm
on radio or like covering sports are on TV with
special mideaks that nature that, like, I have some.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Inside to like the inside of sports.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
I have people that were really texting dog, I'm thinking
about stopping bet and like, because this just seems set up, man, Like,
what do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
I'm like, bro, I know what you know? I do
I know it. But they're fans who see that, and
then that's why they feed into I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
But I'm sitting here talking conspiracy theory. And then they
basically plays out in front of me. Uh and then
because of social media is replayed over and over and
over again again. You get a defender in the air
once he left his feet and he hits the player.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
I mean, you want to talk social media.

Speaker 10 (01:18:30):
The Detroit Pistons just tweeted out Detroit versus everybody, which
in the long line of seeing this with the Lions
and the Pistons. That hashtag is basically code for the
rest are jopping us and they will always be jopping
us because these leagues don't want us.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
So let me let me ask you guys this. Do
you guys think that refs should be held accountable? Yeah,
they sure, but they're employed by the league. So do
you think fines should be a fan? What do you
think it should be?

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
You can't?

Speaker 11 (01:18:54):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Okay? So like you make what's the point of saying
we got it gonna happen with you? I think fines
and then okay, because they get paid more for playoffs,
and then you get paid more for conference finals, and
then you get paid more if you get to do
the finals. So that that is sure, as guys do
a good job, but if you're making these big mistakes
at critical times, you can't do the playoff Like you

(01:19:15):
can't do no more playoff games because we can't have
a what's gonna be to talk about the business? Nick
tomorrow Morning on auto radio TV shows that call.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
This is hard for me because I actually am friends
with a guy that now is retired long time NBA
official Bill Spooner. He went to my high school a
year ahead of me. He was a superstar in high school.
I was a nobody, but you know, we'd be game friends.
When he you know, suddenly heard me on the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Uh, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
And and Bill was always very coy when I talked about,
you know, the inner working, especially when the Tim Donneghey
scandal hit, which by the way, was not an investigation
by the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
They sort of fell into that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
And he's he was the only one to do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
He's a rogue official, the only one that's doing that
where he's calling mor Foules to get the over and game.
So believe what you want to believe. But non calls
like that get people talking and that's not good for
the NBA. Will be all over this game. Much more
on what happened in the NFL Draft. This is Fox
Sports Sunday. We're feeling the intensity today. Oh yeah, we're

(01:20:15):
feeling the intensity.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
It is that time of the year right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
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(01:20:42):
Lakers with an early twelve to ten lead on the Timberwolves.
And obviously Lakers come into this game in a must
win situation. You go down three to one, not impossible,
but tough. Not impossible, it's just super tough.

Speaker 6 (01:20:56):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
But as I just that out to our earlier serious
tied at one, one team that wins game three seventy
three percent winning percentage to win the series. This is
just not only this is not only a must win
for the Lakers, but you brought up a point early
and I wanted to ask you the question. You said,
deep running. You know me, I need context, I need deeper.
I'm a scuba diver. Rocks Conference championship.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Okay, yeah, don't snorkel run is not two rounds.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
You get high school, you get to the final four.
That's a deeper. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
So the Lakers to you and Shay, you're a Laker fan,
this is your this is your this is your account.
How far do they have to get? Because I honestly
think this is if they get to a second round series,
you're a three move. That doesn't it looks a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
F don't matter, as you know, but it is an advantage.
It is an advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Look you have Okay, see you know clearly the number
one team in the Winter League. Most people would say
Houston a fraudulent two seed, and already they're down in
their series to the seventh seed Golden States.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Curry, Who's next up? Lakers? Lakers? Should Lakers need to
in the Western Conference get to the conference final? Are
the Lakers even better than the Clippers or the Nuggets?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Well, we won't have to worry about that until they
get to the conference final, right But because right now
it looks like they can play Golden.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
State, right Oh, and then O the next round, that's
what would be. It would be God, it's gonna be
Golden State. Hoston us is not fraudulent. I wonder Houston's
not fraudulent. They're young, they're young, They're not fraudulent.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Jimmy Butler yesterday, Steph is just I mean, sometimes I
watch Steph Curry and I'm just like, you know, why ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
Because you got a four year guy like Jalen Green
that's never been here before, who's playing well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
But that guy that you're going up against.

Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
That guy that you're trash talking, that guy that you're
running your mouth against. Homeboy, he's got two MVPs and
four championships. You probably should just be quiet and guard him, right,
like they used to say about Kobe, Right, don't look
at him, Jordan, don't talk to that man, shut up,
just play, don't get him going. And then you see
the scuffle last night, not scuffle, but the stuff between.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Him and Draymond Green and Draymond Let me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Ask you this about Steph Curry, sure, because we've been
making a lot, and deservedly so, about the kind of
season Lebron has had at age forty, twenty two years
in the league. Speak on what is more impressive what
Steph is doing at age thirty seven, right, little guy
comparatively running around the court full speed, constantly looking exactly

(01:23:21):
as he has for the last fifteen years, or what
Lebron is doing right now? I ask you what is
more impressive what Lebron's doing at age forty or what
Steph Curry is doing at age thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
You already know my answering. That's because this isn't I
Just please listeners, just hear me. Lebron.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
We know he parks down on the block on defense.
He does not do much for majority of the game.
Even on offense. If he doesn't have the ball in
his hands, watch him. He's not cutting, he's not running,
he's not working to get open and get the ball.
Steph is still constantly moving, creating, grab getting bumped, getting hit,
getting held. At thirty seven, we never talk about Steph

(01:24:00):
age and this man as a lower seed and up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Two, he still looks young and he's such a kid.
He face assassin man, but up to one as a
lower seed on a two seed, as a seven, going
in and still in one game, and then last night
when there's no Jimmy buckets and you really think, hey,
the Houston's gotta get this game. There's no Jimmy Butler.
What does he do. He goes out and puts up
another thirty point plus performance. He was clutched shots in

(01:24:24):
the in.

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
The in the most integral points and important parts of
the game. Clutch shots time and time and time again.
And Draymond fouls out. Don't give him nothing comingia, don't
give him nothing. Steph Curry went won a game by
himself last night without his main guy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Like that's we never talk about that. But see, that's
not the narrative. The narrative is that to talk about
Steph's age. The narrative is only to talk about, honestly,
Lebron's age. Let's you can look around the league right now,
I'm watching Minnesota right now. Does anybody know how long
Michael Colley Junior's been in the NBA? Guys, right, thank you.
No one wants to remember what you remember.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
What you remember when Mike Conley got that first big contract,
like thirty million a year, and people are like my wife, Right,
He's never met in an All NBA team, never been
an All Star.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
He's going to get that kind of day.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
Was hit the shot in the final four at the
National Championship Game when he was in college.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
He's never done nothing. But no one talks about how
this man thirty five years old himself. Yeah, it's not
just longevity for one guy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Well, it's not to take away from Lebron, let's make that,
but I mean it's just I just I just I
was watching Steph last night.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
I did some highlights on I'm like, wow, I'm this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Right, and he looks stronger, he looks big. Look he's
never tired. I mean he just he literally he's running.
You can see the defenders just chasing this guy all
over the court and he only.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Needs that split second.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
The fact that he can get that shot off so quickly,
seemingly not even looking at the basket, and just drain
him one after another.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Another question, he is he is the greatest shooter. Oh
that I've ever seen, that guy's ever created. It's not
and it's not close. I got a question for You'll
love though, best run around guy. Oh no, no, no no,
I'm giving you up and give you options. Steph Curry,
Rip Hamilton m Well, I know, I know, I know

(01:26:12):
your but again, Rip didn't have the same offensive game.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
I said, just run. I mean, guy that just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
By the way, the old school guy John Halichick was
that John Hallick.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Okay, I mean, okay, might work for it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I know it was before your tie, but John Halichick
was one of those players who played sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Years and in the very end, he just he was
in constant motion. On the court just always by the way,
played both ways.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
I mean, he was a defender, he was an offensive player,
but it was like, dude, do you ever get tired?
And that's those games when the guys are logging forty
plus minutes or not.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Then a current coach call him a plumber? Though, Isn't
he Isn't he's supposed to be a plumber. Isn't that? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
I'm just I thought there's a I thought there was
a current NBA coach right now that disrespected the game
by calling those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
I know, well, I mean I think he was talking.
He was talking about Bob Woosey.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
I think, is what Yeah, okay, I mean, I mean Boosie's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Really going back. The amazing thing is Bob is still around.
He's ninety seven years old.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Wasn't he just had a Boston game?

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
The Boss City is still around. And by the way,
here's you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Also, if everyone talks about when you know, the greater athletes,
and obviously they're much better athletes now, but the biggest
change in this game, without question, if you watch the
old black and white films of the NBA, the old
school stuff, and you're like.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Wow, they're really moving slow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
You know why they're moving slow because you had to
have your hand on top of the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Even when I was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
A kid, Yeah, you had you had a driven with hand,
any kind of variation with your hand on Carrie Carrie
palming the ball. So when I was a small kid,
late sixties, early seventies, you were taught you had to
get you had to keep your hand on top of
the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
No, it was this, and so we would tribble it all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
We would go up and down the court like this,
you know, dribbling all the way back like that. And
if you watch, that's exactly what was going on in
those days.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
So yeah, have that go on in the current NBA.
None of what you would see would be going on.
It would be impossible to you. Athletes are better today.
Am I wrong for balking at that?

Speaker 9 (01:28:21):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Not all?

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Look at Will Chamberlain. Can I can I say something
about Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Okay, you know we we we we get in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
This conversation about the goat, right Lebron Michael Jordan.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
You know if you're a bird, magic Steph, I mean,
all these things.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Whoa the reality of the matter, is the most dominant
player in the history of the NBA ever was and
will always be Will Chamberlain period exclamation point. You could
say who's the goat, who's the greatest player, who's got
the most skill, But if you're talking about who is
the most dominant player in the history of the NBA,

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it always will be Wilt Chamberlain. The numbers don't lie.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
I mean, think about this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
He averaged forty five and a half minutes per game
for his entire career, didn't go off the cop and
and in over.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
A thousand career games, never filed out of a game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
So he played forty five point eight minutes per night
for every game he played in the history of his
career fourteen years, and he never filed out of a game.
This is a guy that once had fifty five rebounds
in the.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Game fifteen to twenty five season where he averaged fifty
points twenty five rebounds.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Correct and then by the way, that year eighty game
season at eighty two, he played every second of every game.
Seventy nine of the eighty games he averaged forty eight
and a half minutes of a game.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
There's only forty eight minutes in a game.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
And that's actually, dude, that the same year two to
the Big Old, if I'm not mistaken, had the first average.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Of average trouble double.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Yes, I mean so you know when we talk about, yeah,
there's not the depth of talent. Would Wilt Chamberlain dominate today?
Have you never seen this guy as an athlete? He
was a tracking He always said many times, you know,
I had a chance one dime to have a bit
of a conversation with the great Wilt Chamberlain. And the
thing he always said was is that track and field

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was his luck.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
He was all He was a hall. He was a decathlete.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
You could do high jump, long job American, you know
he was. He was that kind of an athlete.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
And I mean it wasn't like the everyone tries well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
He was playing a bunch of six, Nate Thurman, obviously
Bill Russell.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
I mean, we go down the list of great centers
of that era.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
No, Will Chamberlain was the most dominant player in the
history of the NBA, and no one that has come
since has come close to his dominance. Now you can
again gauge how he wins, and he said, well, you know,
Russell won eleven championships.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
He won too well. For the most part Russell had
better teams and dominated him every time they play.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Yeah, and Russell would Russell never ever argue with the idea,
yeah that world wasn't better than him.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
You know you never already that? Yeah? Uh so, good stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Coming up on the other start, we're gonna get his
thoughts not just on Major League Baseball, not just on
the Stanley Cup playoff, but what happened to the Pistons
at that end of the game against the Knicks. John
Paul Morosi, our insider, will join us. This is Fox
Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, J Husky. Here Fox Sports Sunday
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the only, the Great, John Paul Morosi and JP. I
know you were watching your beloved Pistons lose a heartbreaker
to the Knicks. VJ and I I were going nuts
on the non call at the end of the game
when the knickt defender leaves his feet lands on the Pistons.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Shooter throws up at three.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
No call should have been three free throws to possibly
win the game for the Pistons. Did you see what
we saw?

Speaker 11 (01:32:21):
I actually have not left my seat in front of
the television here in Michigan, so your phone call snaps
me out of about thirty five minute trance. I've just
been sitting here staring at the television ever since the
game ended.

Speaker 6 (01:32:34):
That may or may not be exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:32:36):
Accurate, but my goodness, guys, should have been a foul. Obviously,
it's difficult to say officiating is the reason for a
particular outcome, but that's a foul. That's a foul. It
should be a foul all game, and it should certainly
be a foul in that moment. Was that this single
reason why the Pistons lost the game?

Speaker 6 (01:32:58):
No, I will make sure that I say that.

Speaker 11 (01:33:01):
I also think that at the end of the day,
Cad had an amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
Game triple double, and you had the ball in his
hands in the.

Speaker 11 (01:33:08):
Last possession and you felt great about it. So I
think overall, this series is a case study in both
how far the Pistons have come and maybe how far
they still have to go to be viewed as a
legitimate playoffer or legitimate conference title contender in the Eastern Conference.
This game, though, I thought it was classic Eastern Conference

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playoff basketball, you could have wound the clock back another
thirty thirty five years and there was a lot of
physicality there. A game that certainly Bill Amber would have
been proud of in many ways. But the piss is
just a player too short. It could very easily be
three to one the other direction. But as it is now,
the nixt have a chance to close it out.

Speaker 6 (01:33:47):
On Tuesday there at the garden, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
JPVD brought a husky here.

Speaker 6 (01:33:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
How you doing that?

Speaker 11 (01:33:51):
Brother?

Speaker 6 (01:33:53):
I'm outstanding, Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
Yeah, so let's just focus on this game a little bit.
You said that isn't the only reason I agree with you.
There's number one reason. But let's also go back to
the possession before that, where there's a swipe down by
heart on Jalen Duran on the baseline. It's clear he
smacks his arm down to his leg and the opposite
arm that he's even holding the ball and the ref
is standing right there in front of the Pistons. Bitch,

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what gives them the extra possession to hit the three
then to take the league? When you see things like that,
I'm sitting next to the midst of conspiracy theorist here.
I'm not there yet, but when you look at say, well, yeah,
there's a lot of reasons why, but it just looked
like the things were just kind of constructed to go
against the Pistons down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
If you're the Pistons, how do you try to play
through that?

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
How do you try to get yourself up for game
five going back to the garden and hopefully extending this
thing and getting it back to the crib for a
game six.

Speaker 6 (01:34:44):
Well, a couple of things, You're right.

Speaker 11 (01:34:45):
That play stood out to me too, And the other
one was actually midway through the forest when it looked
like it should have been Pistons ball down on the
baseline and all of a sudden, balls inbounded bridges. HiT's
a three, makes it a three point game, And really
from that point on, at that point it's seventy nine,
seventy six, Detroit. That was really the first moment where
I felt Okay, the Pistons are now in Jeffrey losing's

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basketball game was when it became a three point game,
what's about six and a half left?

Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
That stood out to me as being a really pivotal play.

Speaker 11 (01:35:13):
I think two things is this type of storyline has
been going on as long as there's been the NBA
playoffs about officiating and big market teams, et cetera. I
think that certainly the example of the Pistons of the
late eighties, the Pistons of the early ops was that
they found ways to overcome that and win in spite

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of that, and and sort of that became a bit
of their identity to where they had a big chip
on their shoulder when it came to the playoff basketball.
I also think that maybe the Pistons can take Stylace
and the fact that over the first two games of
the series in New York they started well in both
of those first two games, and today's game, you could
easily say that there were some possessions early where the

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Pistons let the Knicks get a really comfortable believe in
the first quarter where if they started better, they win
this game going away. I just think they've they've got
to start better at home. They had started well on
the road. I actually think of in a majority of
the quarters in the first two games of the Garden,
Detroit was the better team, and I.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
Think that they're going to have to find a way I.

Speaker 11 (01:36:18):
Think to have all of Game five look a lot
more like the second half of Game four, where I
do think certainly Karl Anthony Towns was amazing. The Pistons
had to counteract that by having better perimeter shooting, which
they finally got.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
From Hardaway and Beasley.

Speaker 11 (01:36:35):
I think that was the missing ingredient in Game three
and the first half of Game four.

Speaker 6 (01:36:39):
They showed up late.

Speaker 11 (01:36:41):
It's just they were one possession away from evening up
the series of two games a piece. It's just it's
been great basketball.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
I've loved watching it.

Speaker 11 (01:36:47):
I think despite the results, the state of Michigan and
basketball fans and Detroit have loved watching it. But the
Pistons right now are just a possession or two away
from being in a much different position. But as it
is now, they've got to find a way to prolong
the seat and then get it back to Detroit for
a game.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
All right, I want to get some baseball talk in
right Now I have a question for you, because you
appreciate the history of the game as I do, JP,
what in your opinion is the greater accomplishment a perfect
game or four home runs in a game, because they've
been done about the same number of times in Major
league history. Swarez had the four home run game last night.

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But in your opinion, what is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
More impressive a perfect game or four home run game?

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
It's an excellent question.

Speaker 11 (01:37:32):
My answer is a perfect game because it involves while
yes it is ultimately the pitchers, it involves multiple people
being at their very best for the entire game because
you're relying on your defense, you're relying on your catcher.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
Certainly not every every out it's going to be by strikeout.

Speaker 11 (01:37:54):
And in fact, in a perfect game you often see
a lower percentage of strikeouts because it's just so taxic.
If you're having to go four in five and six
and seven pitches per at bats and register the strikeouts,
you often.

Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
Don't get a chance to have a perfect game.

Speaker 11 (01:38:07):
So I think the perfect game is more is the
more impressive and maybe the more dramatic achievement, But four
homers in the game is extraordinary. Is the reason why
it's so rare in the history of the game that
you see it happen. And Anio Suarez one of my
favorites in the game. Great personality, He can be as
streaky as they come in the game, but you get

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him on a good day, and yesterday was not just
a good day, it was an historic day. He can
also be as formidable as any slugger in the game,
and that was the case yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:38:39):
So you're right. It's so much fun to watch Major
League baseball.

Speaker 11 (01:38:44):
And to see the different feats that can occur. But
I would give a slight edge to the perfect game
over the four homer game, even at the Bowl. Simply
extraordinary feats in the great.

Speaker 6 (01:38:55):
Game of baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
And I just want to tag this if you're listening
out there, I mean, how rare this is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Nineteen players have hit four home runs in a game.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Now twenty four perfect games if you include the perfect
games back in the nineteenth century. How many baseball games
have been played major league?

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
We're talking hundred's a thousand games.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
I mean, it's crazy when we see something like this happen,
how rare it is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
And so it's a happening, no question about that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
And by the way, they were erroneously saying it was
only the second time that a player had hit four
home runs in a game and his team lose the game,
and happened to Bob Horner for the Braves back in
eighty six. But actually Ed Delahanty also had a four
home run game back in eighteen ninety six. I was
not there, but it was against the then Chicago Colts

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as they were then known, and they lost that game.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
So I just wanted to clarify that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
But yeah, it is to me as a baseball historian,
someone that's into the numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
This is the kind of stuff VJ that always blows
my mind. I love that type of stuff. Man, Fox
Sports Sunday, Jo Steve Harman, Vernon Husky here with mister
JP Morosi are inside everything Fox Sports Radio analyst. So
I want, I want you to spread your legs, but
I want everybody listening to you. Just ain't no Johnny
coming lately. Baby, you could talk at all.

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
So we talked a little NBA in some baseball, but
you and I are big NHL guy, especially in the playoff.
We haven't had a chance to talk it. So let's
go there right now. When you look at the way
this thing's setting up right now. Winnipeg had the blow
away season right. They jumped out to a tremendous record
Blues five to one to they tie that bad boy, y'all.
The Kings almost give up a four goal leading. They
got a score in the clutch out here. Crypto dot

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com aka still stables to me? Can I still call
it stables? When them they're covering the Laker games, that
series is two to one, that game is later coming
up tonight, Game four tonight. Desperation for the Oilers, Kennedy Kings,
exercise those demons.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
This is the fourth straight year they played in the
in the playoffs together. And then you got the Washington
Capitals right where Alex took great on kind of his
back end.

Speaker 5 (01:40:56):
Could be his last year? Can they get far? Can
they get a cupped? Just your thoughts overall on the
NHL players that I think has been spectacular. Every game
I've watched, and I watched about seven or eight of
them have just been like on the edge of my seat, like, Okay,
this is why I love playoff hockets.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
Help you all the time. If you do not watch playoff hockey,
you're missing out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
It is the one we always talk about. Playoffs are
always more intense in any sport. It's a different sport.
It's a different sport in a regular season. It's not
even the same sport that we see in the regular
season in the NHL. I'm with you on the Yeah,
playoff five JP Ma Litchal.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Picked something with the NHL playoffs brother and just rant
for us man.

Speaker 6 (01:41:28):
Sure thing, well, I appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (01:41:30):
And we're still sorting out all of the drama from
that brawl during the Capitols Canadian game that included a
fight on the bench. We had seen it all, you know.
The first thing you mentioned BJ the series between Winnipeg
and Saint Louis being tied. My goodness, that is dramatic,
surprising the Blues.

Speaker 6 (01:41:51):
I didn't think they had much of a.

Speaker 11 (01:41:52):
Chance to after the first two games, but Connor Hallibuck,
who has been the best goalie in the world, has
struggled in the play else and that was the story.

Speaker 6 (01:42:01):
Now each the last two games.

Speaker 11 (01:42:03):
Yes, the Jets could be a little tighter in front
of him, but he's gonna need to win some games
here by himself for the Jets to eventually win the Cup.
And it hasn't happened yet, So that series tied up
to too.

Speaker 6 (01:42:15):
The monster up Canadians, they've been.

Speaker 11 (01:42:17):
Playing with such a motion down the stretch. I like
their chances to even the series up with two games
a piece. Of course, they were able to get the
win on home ice there in Game three. You're right, McDavid,
playing later on tonight, they're at home. The Oilers aren't
trying to even up that series. I think the Colorado
Dallas series, you've got two potential Cup winners, potential Western

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Conference finalists, who obviously one of them is gonna get
knocked out in the first round. That series has been phenomenal.
And then you have the Ottawa Senators last night finding
a way to prolong their season with a big overtime
goal by Jake Sanderson against the.

Speaker 6 (01:42:51):
Toronto Maple Lee.

Speaker 11 (01:42:51):
So we know the leagues have a lot of difficult
memories about the inability to close out series in recent years,
and now Ottawa's playing with a ton of emotion and
a momentum. The I think that Ottawa has at least
as good of a goaltending situation as the Leafs do,
and for that reason, I think it's entirely possible the

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centers get this series back to Ottawa. For really, at
that point in time, who knows what ends up happening.
So a lot of drama on both sides of this
bracket there, the East and the West, and I cannot
wait to see how it's all unfold here in the
coming days.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Well, I'll tell you what. The Maple Leafs are the
story to me, They're always the story because again, we
haven't had a Canadian based team wins since the Canadians
in ninety three, and of course the Leaves haven't won
since the last year of the original six back in
nineteen sixty seven. Last year Toronto poisted that Stanley Cup.
All right, we covered it all today, JPS. That's right,
great stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
I love it, Davies.

Speaker 11 (01:43:47):
I look forward to this conversation guys every week. There
is truly no better time of year than this, and
there is no better show on which you talk sports
than yours. So thank you so much for the invitation,
love the conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:44:00):
You guys have a great start of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Thank you, great John Paul Morosi, who can cover it all,
cover it all.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Thanks so much. JP.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
I speaking of covering it all, Monsey has been all over.

Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
The six year physical out here, a lot of physicality.

Speaker 8 (01:44:18):
But I'm actually going to start with the prank call
for Shador Sanders.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Date.

Speaker 9 (01:44:23):
Yes, So remember I mentioned.

Speaker 8 (01:44:25):
The last update that a lot of people were connecting
this kid in the video of the prank call to
Jeff Olbrick's son, who was the Falcons defensive coordinator, Jack's Olbrick. Well,
Jacks Olbrick has made a statement on Friday night. I
made a tremendous mistake, Chaudor. What I did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing,
and shameful. I'm so sorry I took away from your moment.

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It was selfish and childish. I can never imagine getting
ready to celebrate one of the greatest moments of your
life and I made a terrible mistake and messed with
that moment. Thank you for accepting my call earlier today.
I hope you can find it in your heart to
forgive me Shador Sanders.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
Okay, So what happened here?

Speaker 9 (01:45:01):
So okay? Atlanta Falcons have also released a statement and
so I won't read all of it.

Speaker 8 (01:45:06):
But what happened is that Jax Olbrick went to his
parents home and saw an iPad that had this information,
so he caught it without people knowing it. He was
like his father, Jeff Ulbrick was unaware that this data
was exposed.

Speaker 9 (01:45:22):
He was unaware that any of this was happening.

Speaker 8 (01:45:24):
But it was an open iPad that his son saw
while visiting his parents' home.

Speaker 9 (01:45:28):
He wrote down the number and later used it for
the print call.

Speaker 8 (01:45:32):
The Falcons did release a statement they are also not
obviously supporting any of what happened, but they're not taking
any action against their defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrick.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
So he did not have any knowledge of this idea.
His son saw this and was just being a goofy
kiss exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:45:48):
I guess if we want to say goofy being nice shure.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
I'm just you know, kids do things that you wouldn't
do normally. But is that good enough for you? VJ
can I'd be cynical, just really quick Monty on this.
So an NFL defensive coordinator? Correct? Is that the title
of the okay? I just want to make sure I
get the titles.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
I so a defensive coordinator in NFL leaves an iPad
around with sensitive information on draft weekend that doesn't have
a code or doesn't have a lock or anything to
it where anybody can just go see it and then
take it information out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
I just because that's what it sounds.

Speaker 9 (01:46:22):
That's what they're saying. I don't write, we don't. I mean,
you know what I'm saying to make sure, Okay, all
that is said is literally. The Falcon statement says that.

Speaker 8 (01:46:31):
Earlier this week, jacks Oldbrick, the twenty one year old
son of defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrick, unintentionally came across the
draft contact phone number for Shador Sanders off an open
iPad while visiting his parents' home and wrote the number
down to later conduct a prank call.

Speaker 9 (01:46:45):
That's literally that's the line.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
I know, no, got ya, I'm glad. Got to make
sure you know.

Speaker 9 (01:46:50):
I'm just telling you like, there's no more to it.
That's literally it.

Speaker 8 (01:46:52):
Jeff Olbrick was unaware of the data exposure or any
faucets of the prank, and was made aware of the
above only after the fact.

Speaker 5 (01:47:00):
That's the cethical part I want to sack is that
the coach is that the coach the dad no idea
and I get came across because the wording right came
across open eyepad. So you're you're doing this and you
get up in the league, I guess what walk away
from the table and yes said like on TV, right,
your son comes in really quick and right to down
and then goes and then sits.

Speaker 8 (01:47:16):
Well, what I mean, like if i'm if I'm this
guy's father, I'm thinking that my twenty one year old
son would not do that, that I could leave sensitive
information and that my son would just like past.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Oh my question is twenty one years old?

Speaker 8 (01:47:29):
Yeah, Like I don't you're not you know, I'm like,
I hear what you're saying, but I feel like, how
did you do this?

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
What my question is, why would the defensive coordinator have
that number?

Speaker 8 (01:47:39):
Only?

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
I thought that these this phone, this phone, this exclusive
phone was only connected to all the general managers of
each of the thirty two teams.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Why would a defensive coordinator have this number. I mean,
he's not going to make up the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Defensive coordinator is not going to make a phone call
to a quarterback that he's on the team.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 8 (01:48:00):
To me, no, I understand what VJ Is saying, and
I hear what you're saying, and I think we're only
getting a piece of story obviously, But to me, you're
twenty one years old, I don't care, Like, how did
you thought this was funny?

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
There's you knew?

Speaker 9 (01:48:16):
You knew absolutely better.

Speaker 8 (01:48:19):
So even though the whole thing of like leaving your
stuff out in the open, I totally hear you. But again,
I would trust my twenty one year old son. You
know what I do in this world, you know my job,
you know how important this is. I feel like I
should be able to leave all of this out in
the open and you would look past it.

Speaker 9 (01:48:34):
That's what I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
You found out a lot about it something right.

Speaker 9 (01:48:38):
Oh, No, I know also, idiot, relation.

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
Found he found out a lot about how his son
cused his job and what his dad does to support
the family.

Speaker 9 (01:48:50):
I mentioned that.

Speaker 8 (01:48:51):
This was like the Internet sleuth's connecting it because he's
in a video. Idiot, Yeah, you would have never been caught.
He's in the video of the kid making the prank
call the first.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
Place, because you're stupid, but he's in the video. Clenty clo, guys,
you got to give it to him. Though.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
This is probably one of the best print calls ever.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Honestly, But the prank call was sort of benign because
all he said to him was, Hey, we're taking it,
but you're just gonna have to wait a little bit.
And then when he got off the phone, he said,
what was that about.

Speaker 4 (01:49:25):
It's the simplicity.

Speaker 10 (01:49:26):
If I'm not mistaken, this wasn't the only prank call
of draft night, Tyler Warren.

Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
I think it was from the same number, though suppose
that's what everyone says. We're not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
By the way, did you just see Tyler Glass now
got removed?

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
He was throwing a warm up pitch in the second
inning and he's out of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
I mean, wow, the Dodgers.

Speaker 9 (01:49:45):
It's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Other things cramp again? Or what's the latest with Tyler Glass?

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:49:50):
Who knows because right now no one's paying attention to baseball.

Speaker 9 (01:49:53):
Steve, we got NBA playoffs in NHL.

Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
Lakers could save La today. They can save LA's weekend.
I'll say yes, say LA's weekend. So the Lakers can
save LA's weekend tomorrow morning. It'll be a lot better
time in the safe if the Lakers winners gave the
Lakers lose tonight. It's gonna be tough tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Here, I'll give you.

Speaker 8 (01:50:11):
A quick update on the scores, since we spent that
whole time talking about the prank call the Lakers.

Speaker 9 (01:50:16):
No, no, no, this was good.

Speaker 8 (01:50:17):
Lakers are up guys on the Timberwolves thirty eight to
thirty seven halfway through the second quarter.

Speaker 9 (01:50:22):
Forty one to thirty seven.

Speaker 8 (01:50:23):
Now, but Austin Reeves did pick up his third foul
already for LA after LA challenged it against Rudy Gobert
and they upheld it. So Austin Reeves does have three
fouls right now. Lebron Jameson's twelve points, Julius Randalls sixteen points.
The Knicks held on. They survived by who maybe a
little help from the refs, I don't know, but the
Nicks survived against the Pistons ninety four to ninety three.

(01:50:44):
Jaylen Brunson a double double in the win thirty two
points and eleven assist. Kate Cunningham a triple loss, a
trip triple double.

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
In the loss. Excuse me.

Speaker 8 (01:50:51):
In the NHL, the Blues tied up the series against
the Jets after winning today five to one, so that
series is tied at to apiece. The Hurricanes are up
on the Devil's two zero after the first period, and
Carolina leads that series two to one. In baseball, Yes,
Dodgers up on the Pirates four to two, top of
the second inning.

Speaker 9 (01:51:09):
The Yankees just crushing.

Speaker 8 (01:51:10):
The Blue Jays eleven to two, top of the ninth
in the Bronx, this is game one of their doubleheader.
How about the Nationals. I mentioned earlier that the Mets
were shutting them out like seven zero. Well, Nationals have
tied the game, so it's seven to seven bottom of
the ninth inning against the Nationals in Washington.

Speaker 9 (01:51:26):
Games that have wrapped up.

Speaker 8 (01:51:27):
The Tigers did shut out the Oriels seven zero, the
Twins did shout out the Angels five zero, and the
Red Sox defeated the Guardians thirteen to three.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
Body, you're like it was seven and nothing. You like that?
You like that?

Speaker 9 (01:51:42):
I cannot not do that, VJ.

Speaker 8 (01:51:45):
I cannot not you know what I mean, it comes naturally, naturally,
can't help it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
It's the first like cool animated that I've seen you today.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Like I said, I know last night was tough, and
you know all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
I know started I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
The first light.

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
Monsie I saw today earlier, she'll feel a lot better.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
The Lakers lose this game, the rest of they lose. Okay,
see it like I got you, Okay, I got you?
Yeah you all well? Right now just updates you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Lakers have a six point lead now forty three to
thirty seven. Again, I'm yeah, he's right now, So six
and a half minutes to go in the first half.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
There all right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Coming up on the other side, we're going to get
in start of our look ahead of this week. I mean,
where are we going to be a week from now
in terms of the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
We'll break it all down for you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Very busy day for mons As always, best of the best.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Chris was ready and armed with a great stat that
I knew would infuriate VJ. Uh mission accomplished, Chris, Chris,
we let we let Steve set us up?

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Yeah I did. He wanted to lead the show off
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I'm like, well, no, you asked me set us up
when I try to do that and then Shay, did
I just see you hugging VJ?

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
And what happened? Yeah, there's a draft.

Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
I always got to come back. I got a couple
of times about the defensive Vents trip. Yeah, because I
love when they showed those highlights. Look at the get off.
Watch his hand placement right there. He's gonna be able
to do this, He's gonna I love the NFL draft. Man, Well,
dn is what I play? Yeah, yeah, this is a
weird play.

Speaker 4 (01:53:56):
It's a block.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
It's a clean block. Clean Yeah, bucket though they they
gave and they gave them a bucket.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
Atrocious.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
This game is yeah, so like so that was called
goldtending because Lebron complained and they saw the replay.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
It was an absolute block. That ball wasn't going.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
Yeah, they were giving it to us though because of
a former. Again, we shouldn't be Okay, with this. They
should get everything right and they should call everything, But
it seemed like it was a play they were giving
to us because they were wrong on to play before.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Is that what the old makeup call? When the whole
game is a makeup call, that's a problem exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
That takes us to the Pistons as well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Alright, So Lakers lead forty eight to forty one right now,
five minutes to go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
They are obviously trying to even up this series. All right, VJ.
What about what got coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
The Celtics against Orlando, Pacers against the Bucks are going
to try to do what the Knicks did, uh and
win a game on the road to give them a
three to one series lead. Are the Celtics gonna win?
Are the Pacers gonna win on the road?

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
Give me Bean Town to night, give me champions. That
what this means. They should look. They could have got
game three. Game three is right in their hands. They
could have got Game three.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
I think they closed.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
Well I know, but that they're only doing that because
that's what Tom Thibodeau did to try to get the refs.
This goes back to Phil Jackson and Greg Popovitch. They're
the two main legendary coaches that started this, making sure
the world new. We're telling the media, the refs through
the media, we don't like the way you're calling the game.
And we're important to the league, so you need to
you need to do what we're saying to do. So
give me, Give me Boston for championship, mental and championship.

(01:55:30):
This Rolando team's fun, but they ain't want nothing.

Speaker 11 (01:55:32):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
They don't know about Dave. How about the Bucks un guys?

Speaker 10 (01:55:35):
Before we move away from the Pistons a little too much.
A writer for the Detroit Free Press has this apparently
told that Chief crew chief David Guthrie told the Pool
reporter uh Cody Cody Davis that fouls should have been
called on Tim Hardaway Junior's three point attempt. You know

(01:55:56):
what they should have during life play was judge the
just hard Okay, let's see, it's a one point game
and you get three free throws point.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
So he would.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Come back and come back again. This should be a
pr nightmare for the n b A. But this is
where when serious things like this happened, where a game
literally ends with a now official that was there acknowledging
that they blew it. This is where the commission conveniently hides.
Why are you, Adam Silver.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
Who are you where you are right now?

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
You're just still you're still complaining that all the negative
talks about your league.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
It's because of the media. I guess the media.

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
This is Barkley and and Kenny Smith and shacks fault today,
Bucks Pacers, you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
Know what, give me Bucks that lay there even this
up because they didn't look good in those first couple
of games.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
But and also they had one without daytime.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
People forget the Pacers who were in the Eastern Conference finals.

Speaker 3 (01:56:55):
Last in the East was a rec last the East
was a wreck last year. You know, we know it
looks good.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Cleveland dominant well first of all, but people forget, but
they're being up on a heat.

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
Who you don't like being it look at I understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
And by the way, they did it without Mitchell right
right right, No, No, Mitchell had an off game. Yeah,
but Mitchell Mitchell was Mitchell was like four for fourteen shooting.

Speaker 3 (01:57:19):
Garland was out.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
But you know, you got two guys who are in
the top what four finishers and the sixth Man of
the year voting right that they've got players.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
Mane defensive and the defensive player and Nevin Mobile. Yep.
So no, no, no, this this team. No one thinking
that Cleveland is a contender. You know why because we're
sitting here talking more about.

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
A laker that the playoff loss in the history of
the Miami Heat in terms of point differential were down.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Forty at one point. You know they were getting there. Man,
that's but that Heat team. Listen, once you traded Jimmy Buckets,
that was the end of your season. Once you traded
Jimmy Butler. Yeah, like, you know you're not going I
don't know. Cleveland looks fresh to me.

Speaker 5 (01:58:01):
Can we start to also have the conversation I tried
to start about four years ago in Christmas about pat Riley.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
You're gonna You're gonna love this.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
So I finished the show yesterday with Olden and we
were talking about the playoffs and I said, all right,
right now, give me your give me your NBA finals,
and and he gives.

Speaker 3 (01:58:16):
A thought he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Cleveland, Oklahoma City, and I'm like, okay, well, I mean
those are the two number one seeds.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
That's not the NBA Finals the league's looking for. It's
not what we're gonna get because if we're all in
here talking about officiating and it's gonna be okayc in
Boston is gonna be the NBA Finals? You get the
defended champions. You're sure it's not gonna be the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (01:58:39):
No, no, no, no, they don't. They they can't get
reft to the finals.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
What is going on? They can't.

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
It's just just just physical play. This is just physical play.
But Lebron doesn't want anybody to touch them in and listen.
I think and is a little mouthy. I think Aunt
going at Magic Johnson and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:54):
It's like, hey, y'all, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Gonna he's gonna do that answering the right thing. You
got doing it until they call him.

Speaker 8 (01:59:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:59:00):
But I do like his moxie on the court when
I don't care how young I am. I'm not gonna
take a back seat to you because you're the veteran,
because then people are gonna say, I'm not ready for
this moment. No, I'm gonna get up in here. You
know what, I'm gonna get up in your face. I'm
gonna get up here. And that's why I love Kobe
so much, because Kobe.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
Was that young. You know, all these stories now where people.

Speaker 5 (01:59:19):
Go We're looking at this young kid, like, dude, you're crazy,
and Kobe's like, no, Jordan, bet not look me.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
They're nineteen years old. And he goes out has thirty
something points against him for the.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
Lad in O eight when the Lakers got Palgasol and
weird Lakers station here in La So we went to Denver,
we went to Salt Lake, we went to San Antonio.
We are in Boston, and you know, we have this
real connection with Kobe. He was always really gracious with us.
But when those playoffs began. VJ le Malone, he did
not It's no eye contact. He wouldn't talk to anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
Did talk to me. He talk about mama mentality. It's
sunk in. I remember we were in Denver and was like, hey, Kobe.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
Nothing, that's where that's when he had his face. Oh yeah,
the under my face. Well I want that intensity. We'll
see how this plays, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
cVj got it all at about Schador Sanders early.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
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