Steve Hartman & Veejay Huskey Talk Shedeur Sanders, NFL QB Rankings, And So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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the NFL. Of course you are, because we are into
the NFL season right now, preseason football going on as
we speak. We will jump on with John Paul Morosi,

(00:25):
our Fox Sports Radio MLB analyst coming up later on
in this hour. But once again, VJA, here we are
talking NFL, you know, and again we don't want to
overplay what we're seeing necessarily in the preseason. But I'll
be honest, just from a personal level, I can't help
myself because as soon as soon as I start seeing

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these guys out on the field doing their things, you
start I mean last night we were talking about the
Rams game against the Cowboys. Stetson Bennett, I mean, remember
leading Georgia to back to back national championships. He's a
third stringer, right, I mean, they got Jimmy Garoppolo, they sign.
The reports are pretty good right now that Matthew Stafford
is going to be back from that disc problem in

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his back. I don't know if he'll hold up for
the whole season. But you know, these are the type
of things. Guy goes out on the field, he looks
pretty good. You know, yesterday we had four hours and
we were talking. We'll continue to talk what's going on
with Shador Sanders and the Cleveland Browns. But once you
see them on the field, you know it's still NFL football.
Yead's preseason and immediately start, you know, your head starts

(01:30):
swimming like wow that like that looks pretty good. This
guy could be a player. It's just natural.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, it's natural number one, and it's it's football, man,
it just is what it is. You get excited because
it's the number one thing going in pro sports and
all the sports of the world as the NFL. It's football,
and you get such a small snippet of it, right,
Like the hockey season, the NBA season, Major League Baseball season,
they all seem like they go for seven eight months, right,

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and the NFL you really get four months of just
solid football every single week, every single Sunday, Thursday night,
Saturdays and then sometimes they doing Black Friday games now and.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Of course Monday night football.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Right, so from September and it's not even all of September,
you get the Thursday night game after Labor Day. And
you and I are old enough to remember where the
NFL season used to start Labor Day weekend, every single
weekend because back in Virginia, we didn't start school until
the day after Labor Day, so it was always a
day you had to wait to get to the bus
stop to either brag or take crap from your friends
about whether your team won their first opening week. So

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the NFL, it's just compacted into four months of storylines.
It dominates radio, it dominates television, it dominates world news
like it anything that happens in the NFL from September
to December dominates the world. But that's all we get
by Christmas. You know, you're getting geared up for the playoffs,
and these other leagues they just drag for seven eight months.

(02:57):
So that's why when you get a take of guys
that's got chin straps, buckled, show the pads trapped in
all your pads, all your plays, like your your job
for a lot of these guys.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is on the line.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
You are competing for the next guy not to have
to be up. And then you have a schedule and
you have seventeen opponents that you're trying to compete for
and trying to prepare for, including all of your division opponents,
and as fans, we're just it's just gonna happen. Man,
We're just gonna when it comes on, we see it.
We hear the first down, sat hut. We hear the

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first sound of helmets and pads clacking against each other.
Guys breaking up balls, Guys celebrating, defensive backs doing the
you know, waving away when they when the receiver doesn't
complete and get a completion. A quarterback and throw a completetion.
You just see every DC sack dances and celebrations. Guys
getting turnovers. The whole team from Minnesota yesterday runs down
to the end zone after turnover and gets down on

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the ground and does their pot like it's back and
this is what we love and miss. So we can
sit here, I agree with you. We can sit here.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
All day long.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And that like preseason doesn't matter, which is a guy
I've I've never been on that side. I've never been
that guy. Preseason does matter. Now, does it matter for
Pat Mahomes's job?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Does it matter for Joe Burrow's job?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Those guys Jalen Hurst knows, Lamar Jackson and Josh Now
those guys jobs are solidified. But there is some movement
coaches are thinking about. There is some guys. I'm watching
my Dolphins this morning, get down to a boom boom, boom, boom,
down to the two. They run three straight times, they
get stuffed three straight times. So automatically, I know right there.
I don't care who's in the game, whether it's a
one or two off, its line still needs work. And

(04:35):
we got a chance to see it in the game
type situation. And it doesn't. It doesn't take me off.
But in brushing my teeth getting ready to come in here,
watching on my bind in the bathroom, like, come on, guys,
and it's just Jayalen right right, it's not a Chaine,
It's not. It didn't look very forceful, which bothers me
as a fan, but you can so holds preseason.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
No this matters, man, All right, Well, so this is
this is the stat I've always loved about football. Actual
playing time. Right, actual playing time in an NFL game
is eleven minutes. Right, There's eleven minutes of actual action,
whether it's a kickoff, offensive play, there's a total of

(05:14):
eleven minutes of actual game time during the course of
an NFL game, and that's once a week. So you
think about that, I mean, you talk about less is more.
This is why the NFL works, This is why football works.
One game a week and during a three hour broadcast,

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you're actually getting eleven minutes of actual action. You care,
but it keeps you on the edge of your seat,
and so and plus obviously the gambling factor and everything
else that has taken the NFL through the stratosphere. So yeah,
even though it is preseason, and even though we should
not overplay what we see good or bad, I mean again,

(05:58):
the key right now for every team is you don't
want to happen what happened to the Chargers and Loser
with Shawn Slater. You just don't want something like that
to happen before the season even begins. So you hold
your breath. You know, I've been surprised. Now we always
know this about Mahomes. He likes to play in the preseason. Mahomes, Like,
why even if he's on one series, which is what

(06:19):
he did yesterday through a one yard touchdown passes only
pass of the game. But you're thinking why is he
risking it? Why would you risk Mahomes. He likes to
be out there. He likes to sort of get a
few reps in in a game situation, to get himself ready.
No one's asking him to play, obviously, that's his choice.
Other quarterbacks don't want to play, They're not going to

(06:40):
risk it. That's fine. Whatever it might be going back
to the COVID year in twenty twenty and is still
when you think back, when we look back years from
now of that incredible twenty twenty, you know where Major
League Baseball shut down, the NBA shut down. NFL got
a full season in with no preseason game, no real

(07:01):
training camp. They just said, you know what, we're gonna
get our full season in. And they did not a
single missgame. Few games slightly delayed, but they got in
an entire schedule. That's the power of the NFL and
it's why it just dominates the scene.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
And it was fun to see it that way because
you could hear so much because there was no crowd
right and you can hear everybody on the field. You
can hear all the quarterback you it really I thought
the COVID year was great because number one.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
We needed it as a nation number one, we needed it.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
The only thing that saved us in the spring of
the summer was the ten part documents series of Last
Dance with the Bulls. Yeah, because other than that, there
was just absolutely nothing. The bubble was okay, and everyone
had questions about that anyway, but the NFL was all in.
Even Major League threw sixty games together, but that didn't
draw the love and the comfort that the NFL did

(07:57):
in the COVID season. But I'm with you, man, even
with eleven minutes. But you think about in between the plays, like,
don't act like we don't like watching players walk back
to the huddle looking up at the big screen watching
the replay or their interactions with their team.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Is when you when you're a football player, you play football.
That just is what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
When you and I first started our career, think about it, Steve,
did we'd have the listening demographic that we have now.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
No, absolutely, not even closely. I know I was working
on a pier in Redondo Beach. Yeah, I was sitting
on an air myself.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I was sitting on an air mattress talking on a
Hewlett Packard computer that my mom had just brought me
for discount from best Buy on Black Friday. Starting my
you know, my radio show. No one heard me, but
I talked, and no one heard me the second week,
and I talked, and I just kept talking and kept
talking and kept talking. Tell a few people here than
one person. Here's the one person. Next thing, you know,
you're on Fox Sports Radio. It's we talk. It's what

(08:51):
we're gonna do. Whether it's for real or not. Players
are just football players. They're gonna play. You have to
get out there and hits somebody else in a different
uniform because in camping practice, I know guys go hard,
but you can't tell me you don't go just a
little extra hard when you're fighting for your brother as
opposed to fighting your brother. A lot of men out

(09:12):
here listening right now, I've got into fights with their
own blood brother. But you ain't fight him like you
fought the dude in third grade or the guy in
seventh grade on the school yard. You fought him with
all your might. That's how the analogy I use for football.
You're gonna practice and scrimmage and inner enter team scrimmage
is all right, cool, but preseason it's you know, there's
no redos, there's no hey, can we work on this?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Why you guys set up this way? No, no, no, no,
We're gonna run our system.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
You run your system, and you know, hopefully, like you said,
no one with a big name or someone we really
need to gets tagged with a season ending injury, which
happened to Rondell Moore yesterday first played a game.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
He's now done for you.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I have to missing all of twenty twenty four, in
parts of twenty one and twenty two. You just don't
need it, man, But you have to get out there
and play, because football players, guess what they do, Steve,
they play.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Football, man, they do and again referencing having worked with
a team and sort of seeing that annual grind and
guys trying to extend their careers, guys trying to make
it into the league. I mean, we've always focused on
the main names, understandably so, but you know it's like
in golf. You know, you see the big stars on

(10:18):
the PGA tour and you got guys grinding out there
on the corn, you know, tour and just trying to
get in. And this is how it is, year after
year after year. You see all these guys in this preseason.
Most of these guys will not see Week one of
the NFL season. Some of them may never actually put
on an NFL uniform again. So that part of it

(10:39):
is always and because you could, you know, these are
guys obviously trying to make it. They want to be
on the biggest stage. So there's a lot of stake
out there in these preseason games. And right now, by
the way, Dolphins leading the Bears fourteen to seven, I'm
sure you're going to overplay that. By the way, by
the way, Caleb Williams not playing today for the Bears.
Tua did see action for the Dolphins today. I'm not

(11:02):
just shoure well. I mean again, if you're Ben Johnson,
why you got a system, man, I need to I
need to get my quarterbacks some reps here that tells
me something right there. But we've been here.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
But we've been here and he's struggling to pick it
up and maybe this is a protection move today. Let's
let's let's let's you know, let's uh, because everybody's gonna
reoverreact up the Week one preseason. We're we man, right,
We're all gonna do it. So if they don't play.
We can't overreact to.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
But again, what we were talking about with Schnor Sanders,
you know, baby steps, Okay, right, you got to get
out there, got to get out there. We're gonna make
you feel comfortable. That's what we keep talking about. Make
a guy feel comfortable. Caleb Williams already in practice, not
comfortable with the season that he's going to be starting
quarterback week one, but right now not playing for the Bears.

(11:47):
I aim this first a three preseason game for the
Bears taking on the Dolphins. All right, So we have
a lot of news that we're gonna get to from
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the most brightest spotlights in a rookie class that has

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a lot of intrigue. I mean we say that every year, obviously,
but there are certain players in this year's draft that
warrant special and none more so than Travis Hunter. So
Travis Hunter made his preseason debut yesterday, caught a couple
passes for nine yards, played a little corner. You know.

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He didn't have any breakups or anything like that, but
he was definitely on the field doing both. And his
coach was asked, I heard, was actually asked, what are
the chances that Travis Hunter could be both the offensive
rookie of the year and the defensive rookie of the year. Now,
this did happen with Myles Jacket Ucla. He was the

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freshman of the Year offensively and Freshman of the Year defensively,
playing running back in linebacker at UCLA, and he'd pulled
it off where he was the Conference Offensive Freshman of
the Year and the Conference Defensive Freshmen of the Year.
So I'm going to ask you right now, and I
know we are a big Travis Hunter guy who's not

(14:59):
a Travis Hunter guy. He is a very special athlete
and very special football player. But can this guy hold up?
Because when he considered this and I was here, let's
see on our buddy Jeff Schwartz talk a little bit
about this earlier today. If he's playing full time, he's

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running a lot. Obviously, as a receiver, you're running routes.
As a cornerback, you're covering routes physically. Is it conceivable
to play the game at the speed that the NFL
is played and hold up at both of those positions
maintaining the highest level of efficiency over a sixty mini game.

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Is that possible?

Speaker 3 (15:45):
My first question I asked before I answer, is is
he starting both ways?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
He does not want to come off the field. So
remember this, Dion Sanders, as we know, was a cornerback.
He had one year with where he caught like forty passes.
He wasn't just like you know one, you know, a
fourth receiver, and so while he actually played quite a
bit of wide receiver at least for one full year
along with doing return.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
To he started a few games that yeah, remember actually
started a few games.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
He started games. And remember he was also a return guy, right,
so you know you could stay on the field. And
again they would say, hey, Harbin, didn't you say the
NFL game is actually only eleven minutes? Yeah, that's actual
game time during a three hour game of where the
ball is actually in play is eleven minutes. Keep that

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in mind when you talk about whether or not someone
like Travis Hunter could actually pull this off.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Well, first of all, the game is different, all right,
as far as even the contact that's allowed. When Dion
was playing both ways, when Charles Woodson played some both ways,
he had guys like heinz Ward do a lot of
different things. Antoine Rendell champ.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Bailey last year at Georgia got you know, fifty passes
will being the best corner in college I.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Was about to say, not that, sec. He was the
best corner in college football that year. I think it's
very possible for him to be able to hold up now.
The only thing is that in the NFL, size matters,
so the guys are bigger, but he is out on
the perimeter on both sides of the ball. He's not
lining up at tackle, he's not lining up at outside linebacker.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
They'll probably use them sometimes in the slot, you know,
to disguise. I think they're gonna blitz him some, so
I think he'll get some action there coming off a
corner blitzes and slot corner nickel blitzes and different type
of defensive packages. I would use him that way obviously,
But he's not gonna start on offense. But thirty to
forty plays on offense, why not? Because if you put

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him out there for say four to play as a
run plays, he's not doing anything. He's a decoy now
because when twelve checks in, all twenty two eyes on
the defensive side of the ball have to see and
have to start it learning everybody because they actually spent time.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
They had to take time out of their normal.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Defensive practices and defensive schemes during the week to prepare. Oh,
by the way, when Travis comes on the field, here's
a group of plays they probably like the run. Now,
this is what we're gonna have to do for this.
If I'm putting Travis Hunter out there both sides of
the ball. Trust me, five to eight of those plays
are run plays. Just the fact that he's out there,
it's a story. He's a dynamic player. He's the gonna

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be probably rookie of the year on one side of
the ball now of Heisman Trophy winner. You have to
pay attention to it, so which means you have to
now take time away to actually prepare for it. So
why not forty player? Why not thirty to forty plays
on offense. I'm not asking him to play sixty to
seventy five plays on offense. And then on the corner.
If he's out there on the corner and he's lining

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up and he's getting ready to guard to cover guy
and it's a dive right that goes four yard, how much.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Did he do on that play? He didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Him and the receiver touched each other with their hands,
and you break and you go back to the huddle
and you run another play. I think he can pull
it off because after the first year in Colorado, he
worked on his conditioning and was able to do it
last year when people said he could so being at
a senior do it. I think it's very possible, but
I think the NFL level, they'll be more careful offensively,

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but defense, he's gonna play every dawn if you can.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And he's gonna have to. So if you were to
talk to most NFL people about the dynamic of playing
wide receiver versus cornerback, he needs to be a full
time cornerback. Yes, OK, absolutely, Starting cornerback corner one a
position where you can just sort of run in periodically,
in and out. It doesn't work that way. A corner

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corner is a full time job. Those are called nickelbacks exactly.
If you're going to be a corner, and you know,
especially if you're an elite corner, you're gonna be covering
their best receiver. I mean, you know, if you're matched
up with Jamar Chase, you're not coming in and out
of the game. You are full time corner. I think again,
we saw with Deon Sanders, We've seen it on a

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much lesser level with others that how I believe. And
by the way, I really love the honesty from Travis Hunter.
He admitted yesterday he was nervous. He goes, I'm nervous
before every game, very upfront about it. He didn't do
a lot. I think he was on eight offensive plays,
ten defensive plays or back and forth, something like that.
But we're talking about much more if he signed both

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both positions. I think he seems to be the kind
of player that will be honest about what he can
and can't do, don't I don't think that Travis Hunter.
He wants the opportunity to try it. That's all he's
really asked. Now that he's at the NFL level, once
we get into the regular season, I think that he
is going to be very honest because, look, he could be.

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This was the frustration going back in the day with
Bo Jackson. You know, Bo Jackson's injury in football also
cost him as baseball. Absolutely, and so you're like, what
if what if he had only been a running back
in the NFL? Well, averaging five and a half yards
of carry for the four years he played, he would
be in the Hall of Fame, Obviously, if he had

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only played baseball, he figured he would only get better,
a little more discipline in the played. Obviously, he could
do things on the field that nobody could do. I mean,
you get the bay of five hundred feet, He could
make an incredible athletic catches. He could do everything running walls.
He was running up walls, but he was striking out
lot because again, there's got to be disciplined. There's ways
to and if he had played another, you know, ten

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years of major league baseball, I think we would have
seen the improvement. So the idea of him getting the opportunity,
I love that Jacksonville is going to give him that opportunity.
All Right, kid, let's see what you can do. We're
gonna do this. But I think eventually what will happen
is is that with his athleticism, there is no more
challenging position on a football field because you're going backwards.

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I mean as a cornerback covering these superstar athletes, that
is such a tough position. And if he has the
ability to play at the highest level, which I'm sure
he does, that would be the focus. And then how
he works in as a wide receiver will just go
from there. That's the way I eventually think this is

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gonna play out for Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm going on record, and I've been on record, but
I'll just say it again. Corner he is going to dominate.
This kid has all the corner ability like he has
everything you need. I have zero, absolutely zero question about
Travis Hunter as an NFL corner. He is going to

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lock up some receivers on Sundays. They're gonna get sick
of seeing his guy. He's this is this is the
next Patrick certain junior type of player.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
This is when you think of these limes like Dion,
these guys. Being a receiver helps, yes, in other words, right,
because you're you're used to breaking on the ball and everything.
This year is to see no I a hundred percent
kid is locked in a corner. If he watchs in
that corner, he'll have a bus someday in can't Ohio.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
How much he plays wide receiver thirty to forty plays.
I'm telling watch mark my words, thirty to forty plays
on average. You have to you don't have a choice.
It is what he does. We talked about this yesterday.
The best coaches do what they put their players in
the best position to do what they're best at. What
this kid is, betstat is just give him the ball,
get the ball in his hands. We are in that

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type of NFL. Look at a guy like say Flowers,
is a Flowers to you, a dominant wide receiver but
if you just get the ball in his hands, it
was like Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Is Tyreek Hill this masterful route runner.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
No, he's just flying out faster than everybody else on
the field.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
So just get the ball in his hands.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Sometimes football is not as hard as certain coaches try
to make it.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Fast Guys, big guys, strong guys, haveth lot of guys.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Get them the football, and everybody else do their job
and let him do what he does. Some guys are
just when they have the ball in their hand. When
Travis Hunter has the ball in his hands, you lean
up off the sofa every single time. It's like show
hey at the play. Every time he swings, you just
think it's gonna be a home run.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Steph Curry.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
When he takes a three, you think they're all going in.
You know they're not all going in, but you think
they're all going in. When Travis Hunter touches the football,
you think this.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Kid can go all the way.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
So you gotta get him thirty to forty plays on
ifil I'm not talking about get him thirty to forty touches.
I like ten twelve touches a game to start his
NFL career.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Out a lot he's receivers touch the ball ten twelve
times in a game. You're giving him the ball. Hold up,
but you're giving him. But this kid's special, Well I
understands special. Yeah, he's special. But JJ can't play corner
and he's not an afflet. He's just a damn boy receiver.
They catch six passes a game.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
But you give the ball to your athletic guys as
much as you p possibly can, even over more of
a receiver. Tyreek Hill is a great athletic fast player.
He gets quick screens, he gets reverses, he gets speed,
he gets a flash speed reverses.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
At the most, get him the ball six or seven
times in a game.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's fine. I'd plan, though, to try to get it
to him ten or twelve. There's gonna be some incomplete passes,
there's gonna be some audibles that call off plays. Fine,
but my game plan going in with Travis Hunter is
we're game planning to at least try to get him
ten touches. Now, if it turns out to be five,
six or seven, cool, one of those he might take
to the house.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
There's the difference. Well, Liam Cohni, his coach, has said
that yes, it is possible that he is capable of
winning both offensive and defensive high three year. So at
least his coach is gonna see what the kid can do.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Your guy in Vegas gonna have something to say about
the offensive side of though you're running. But your kid
in Vegas is gonna have something to say about that
offensive Rookie of.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
The year war Well, there's a lot of guys on
both sides that get to have a big say in
what's offensive defensive rookie of the year. The biggest thing
for Travis Hunter is you gotta stay on the field.
Any injuries, no lockdown, hamstring, whatever puts you on the shelf,
All that goes out the window. All right, let's find
out what's trending right now. Speaking of someone that could

(26:10):
be uh well again has been all there here.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
I'll stop it.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Wherever she goes, I'll stop it. That of course is
Mancy Belong Monty. How are you today?

Speaker 6 (26:22):
I wish our TV's worked. I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, we have some We dealt with this for four
hours yesterday. Yeah, it's a little good.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
I dealt with it on.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, I will say this. I certainly hope once we
get to the start of the NFL season. I'm sleas
college football season the week before that. We don't have
this from you.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
No, no, no, they said they're going to fix I'm just annoying.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
You'll see these two. I pass that up in front
of me right three season football totally.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
I mean, it's very difficult to watch when you're in
your seat over there, but in this seat, of the
anchor seat, it is a lot.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
This is where I should be watching.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
This is where I'm supposed to be being able to
pay attention to the small details while you go, are
you know, having your conversation and I cannot.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
But we do have pre season NFL going on right now.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
The Dolphins are on top of the Bears at halftime
fourteen to ten.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
They are in Chicago.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
Miami was on the scoreboard first with the rushing touchdown
by Alexander Madison.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
Chicago responded with a touchdown.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Pass from Tyson and Pagent to Maurice Alexander. Then Miami
back on the scoreboard with a Jaylen Wright rushing touchdown again.
Fourteen to ten is the score at the half. Still
to come will be the Saints taking on the Chargers
at Tofi Stadium with kickoff at four eastern on Saturday night.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
Times.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
Running back Tajay Spears stuff at a high ankle spring,
and today head coach Brian Callahan said he's expected to
be out a few weeks. The NFL Network is reporting
that Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford will return to practice on Monday.
When it comes to baseball, the Twins are edging the
Royals two to one bottom of.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
The fifth inning, are actually after five innings.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
The Reds are shutting out the Pirates for zero bottom
of the fourth. The Astros have added another run. They
started their runs with the Hoseale Tuba home run. They're
up on the Thanes to zero top of the fourth inning.
Marlins still edging the Braves one zero bottom of the fourth,
of Tigers blanking the Angels three zero bottom of the
third inning. The White Sox are on top of the
Guardians three zero bottom of the second there as well,

(28:14):
and the Mets, who have lost six in a row,
are on top of the Brewers, who have one to
eight in a row, three zero top of the second inning.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
At the FedEx Saint Jude Championship, Scotti Scheffler is now
at the top of the leaderboard tied with Tommy Fleetwood
at thirteen under part overall Schefler.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Through four holes, Fleetwood through.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
Three holes, while JJ spawn and Justin Rose are one shot.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
Back back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Very Monzie, thank you, very very much, and as always,
thank you for breakfast. Always appreciate you're welcome. It always
comes through. All right, once again we are here in
the Fox Sports radio studios. I had to laugh when
I saw this. Jerry Jones, Oh God, obviously trying to

(28:57):
get away from the conversation about what's happening with Micah
Parsons is hailing the steal of Joe Milton from the
New England Patriots. Now you remember there was a moment
of Joe Milton. If you don't remember his college career.
So he started Michigan and then he ended up at Tennessee.

(29:21):
And you talk about an imposing guy. He's listed at
six five, two forty six. He's a big guy, big quarterback.
And there was a time at Tennessee when he took
over for Hooker. Remember as the courtnet and Hennah Hooker
got out and he comes in and everyone was buzzing
about Joe Milton like this this guy is it he

(29:46):
ended up being a six round pick in the NFL
goes to New England. He was not happy that he
wasn't getting a fair shot to get the number one
quarterback job from Drake May. He's like, why why can't
I compete for the job he was picking the sixth
round obviously, baby was Yeah, he does have a big arm.
So the Cowboys, of course wasted a fourth round pick

(30:09):
on Trey Lance, which turned out to be a bus.
But now, all of a sudden, Joe Milton is a
guy that Jerry Jones is buzzy. So if you're if
you're Dak Prescott, not that you feel like your job
is threatened, but when you have an owner like Jerry
Jones going on and on and on and on talking

(30:29):
about Joe Milton, what a steal was to get this
guy from the New England Patriots. That does that make
you uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
No, because I make sixty million dollars and it meant
nothing making me feel uncomfortable. I mean, if anything, I
think this is genius by Jerry Jones. And I don't
give Jerry Jones a lot of genius props, but I
think what he's doing right now is genius because Joe
Milton is actually trade bait right now, That's why he's
doing this.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
But Joe Milton is a very good young quarterback.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Guys, he just got to get somewhere he can actually
have a legitimate shot to be the guy.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Because this kid is his arm is eighty five yards.
He is god to believe.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
He has got a Hallitzer attached to the side of
his guy.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Go back because your beloved. So he actually started five
games from Michigan. He wasn't good during the coach He
wasn't good there. He wasn't and you know, the numbers
were very mediocre. He wasn't The Tennessee was back up
for a couple of years. I mean really, he only
started six years, three at Michigan, three at Tennessee. Six years.
He only started twenty one games.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, but that's a lot of experience that six years
of coaching, six years of watching, six years of film study.
Like and you can see it, like Jerry Jones isn't
just saying it's for no reason. His teammates aren't just
saying this stuff for no reason. And trust me, the
reason why Cleveland moved on from him is because they
invested in Drake May and they don't want that cloud.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Think about it. One thing New England doesn't like is
a cloud over their quarterback.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Right, we've seen this where Belichick Drascaroppolo.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Remember that Craft wasn't happy about that. Why did you
draft that drafted? Why would you draft another quarterback after
he used the third pick in the draft that they.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Can't making because they they've made this mistake before. They're
doing it again. But they got out of it by
getting him out of it. By getting him out of there,
so everybody knows it's Drake May's team. That's one question
we are not gonna ask in New England is who
is the quarterback? No matter how bad Drake May plays,
He's gonna be the starting quarterback undoubtedly for seventeen games
for the New England Patriots in twenty twenty five. So

(32:25):
with Milton, we know Dak's the guy there, but Dallas
does need a running back. Dallas needs some other pieces. Dallas, listen,
don't tell me he can't be included in this Michael
Parsons deal if it goes down or if they decide
to move on from him.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I think what.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Jerry Jones is doing right now is genius and I
think Dak knows what's good.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Dak's not worried.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Any Does anybody think Joe Milton's starting over Dak Prescott?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
No, No one thinks that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
So that's why I think Jerry is actually being the cells.
But are you gonna been back what you gave Bb?
He gave oh what a fifth and the seventh to
get Joe Miltoner you think you're gonna get more than
that in a trade. I'm not trying to get a
I'm not trying to get a pick. I'm trying to
get a player.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
If I'm trying to play it for Joe, you're not
gonna No team's gonna give you a player of any
substance for a backup.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Maybe not a substance for them, But maybe Jerry sees
something in that guy and thinks that he can fill
a hole that Dallas has.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
If you're gonna do the deal, if you're gonna, if
you're gonna if what I'm saying is right, Okay, from
out of left field, But if what if I'm saying
is right, then you're looking.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Then that means you already know there's.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
A specific piece that you need and maybe you feel
like if you keep playing him and keep talking them up,
you can get one of these other owners to bite.
Because you are still Jerry freaking Jones. You are still
the most popular owner and the number one owner in
the league of.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
A Bob Kraft.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Maybe you swindle somebody out of a player that a
team thinks is not gonna do much for them this year,
So why not go ahead and let him move on
and we'll send them to doubt, you know, And and
let's get maybe our future quarterback that we don't have
right now.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Does everybody he have a quarterback right now? No? No,
But again, you're going to bring in Joe Milton, who
as next to no experience ten year as a starter
at tennis. We talked about this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Daniel Jones drafted off of one year, Anthony Richardson drafted
off of one year, Mutual Trubisky drafted.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Off Flan do this off one year? Teams do this, right?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I just we just named five teams that have done.
What's your question?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
All right? Okay, Well I want to get back because
the Micah Parsons situation, I think we need to get
a little perspective on this again and you have to
really break down when it comes to winning a championship,
which I would imagine is the ultimate goal for everyone
that steps on the field, coaches, even owners. I'm not

(34:44):
so sure about the owners care. They're just care about
the bottom line. But that's what this game's about, right,
It's about winning a championship and what do you need?
How do you prioritize? The Michaeh Parson situation plays a
big part in this. We'll explain. This is Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2 (35:12):
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(35:32):
of futures on how many games these NFL teams are
gonna win in this upcoming twenty twenty five season. Can't wait.
So last night I was listening. I got off television
at midnight and I'm listening to our buddy Bernie Fratto
to his show, and you know he always has that
midnight hour. Yeah yeah, that tapped into Bertie last night.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
So I'm listening to this last night and he was
asking people like, what side are you on in this
Micah Parsons Jerry Jones thing. I think Bernie was surprised
that more people were siding with Jerry Jones than they
were with Michael Parsons. But there was one color in
particular that brought something up. I want to throw it
at you. So this guy said, look, when you talk

(36:13):
about building a championship team, eighty percent of it is quarterback.
This guy's throwing out this number. Ten percent is your
offensive line cause you got to protect the quarterback. He says.

(36:36):
The rest of the ten percent, everything else is ten percent.
So when you talk about when he says, think about this,
you got Miles Garrett sign's a huge contract at Cleveland.
They're going to Super Bowl because of Miles Garrett. No, no,
Or you talk about like TJ. Watter, you talk about
the high end, high paid pass rushers. Now you can

(36:57):
make the argument, well, yeah, okay, if you're saying that
eighty percent of winning a championships a quarterback. You also
got to neutralize the quarterback on the other side of
the field, You got to put pressure on him, right. Well,
I just thought that that's an interesting number. It's it's
worth a thought. So again, if you are at the
end of the year, and obviously we've seen exceptions to

(37:19):
the rule. Trent Dilferd started a quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens.
He was released after winning the Super Bowl, much to
his shock, but he was released because they said, we
don't need you. We got Ray Lewis and company hat
of the best defense, historic defense. Of course, they didn't
win another Super Bowl for many years after that. So

(37:39):
do you do you buy into that when you talk
about you know, you know what level importance overall positions
are that eighty percent of winning a championship is with
the quarterback. No, that's way too high.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
That's way too high because and the reason why it's
too high because of the way everything else is dominated
down and broke the way he broke it down, not
dominates k the way he broke it down. So if
he's saying ten percent, right is the old line.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, he said ten percent, meaning there's only ten percent.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Left exactly, So special teams, D line and turnovers. You're
telling me that's what three point three and a half
three and a half three?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
No, that's where he was going. No, well that's wrong. Okay,
So what give me a percentage on the quarterback? Sixty
or maybe just fit? It's half the battle. Half the
battle is football. Let me listen. Well you have to
say it's more than half when you know.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
No, do you understand how not you speaking to the
people were speaking to this guy.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Do you understand how much goes into football?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
You're telling me a quarterback takes eighty percent, the old
line ten percent, and the rest of everything else it's
ten percent.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
You're out of your mind.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Quarterback is half the battle because if you don't have one,
you got zero shot at being the contender. Yeah, you
might make it interesting towards the end of the year.
Your name will be on the screen on the graphic
under in the hunt. Right, if you don't have a
quarterback here, you're coming down to stretch, and if you
win your last two and then twelve other things happen,
you can get into the playoffs. No, if you have

(39:09):
a quarterback, that's normally not the case unless he's missed
some time. But the quarterbacks that dominate this league, to
the ones that have the best ability which is availability,
which means they take majority, are all of the snap.
To me, that's half the battle. Okay, how how are you?
Where are you leaving the defense at all?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Right? That this now defense? We're championship. Stop playing with me,
thank you? Because when you think about it, let's look
at super Bowl winners, all right. So when you look
at winning Super Bowl teams, when you think of these teams,
are you thinking offense? Are you thinking defense? I mean,
I can give you many examples of defense. I mean,
just a year ago, the Chiefs get to the Super

(39:48):
Bowl more on defense. They did offense, way more on defense.
The two Giants victories over New England, defense was defense.
The raven talking about the Seahawks winning defense, when lebron
goes beat the Panthers, defense Von Miller, you know, raising
havoc here. So and obviously both of the Ravens wins

(40:10):
a corps are defense.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
The last Bear Super Bowl, one of the one of
the most famous super Bowls ever.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Why yeah, because of the defense. It's defense. So you
know again, is it a bonus to have a Tom
Brady or a Patrick Mahomes and quarterback. Obviously it is
because they can make plays when your team needs the most.
But how again, again, you said it defenses win fifty championships.

(40:37):
So yeah, I thought it was pretty outrageous about how
to bring it up, because it was just it stood
out to me. I don't know what to think out there.
We're gonna have much more on that and John Palmerosi
coming up. This is Fox Sports Sunday, rolling along here
on another busy sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday. We're in
the Fox Sports Radio studios. Shout out to our buddy
Bernie Fratto, who heard me, uh bring up his show

(41:00):
last night. I'm talking about the show. I know that
Burke listens, so I figured he would and he did say, hey, hey, hey,
I did correct the guy, and I we acknowledged that.
I mean, he definitely told the guy. No, there's there's
there's multiple things other than eighty percent quarterback.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Right, And I lowered it during the commercial break, even
below fifty Birdie, just so you know, I went forty
percent quarterback, forty percent defense, ten percent special teams, and
then ten percent everything else.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Let me know how you thought like that when that
eighty percent is way way too This guy was at
him at eighty percent quarterback, ten percent offensive line, everybody
else ten percent.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Is he playing Madden? I don't know, bro, this is
not super tech mobile.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Down the list of teams that actually won the Super Bowl. Yeah,
you need a defense. How many of those you need
a defense? I mean, you can go back to the
first three Super Bowls that the Patriots won with Tom Brady.
It was their defense. There was more the dominant force
on those teams than Brady. The second run was very
much more as the Patriot when they got out in

(42:00):
the beginning. I mean, he was you know, he was
with a game manager. Is like they used to say,
it was, Well, it doesn't bad. I think it's a
negative term. It is because we use it. We don't
use it positively. Well, if you manage it properly, if
you're doing the right things out there, you're supposed to
manage everything. This was the argument about Bart Starr. With

(42:23):
Vin Sombardi, they had a run dominant. He never threw
more than sixteen touchdown passes in a season. He was
the first Ballle Hall of Famer, but here's where he
won his last nine playoff games and he was a
two time Super Bowl MVP. So it goes back to
JJ McCarthy we talked about in Michigan. He wasn't putting
up the glossy numbers some of these guys put up.
But when they needed him to come up big, make

(42:45):
the throws when they need him, he delivered. And and
so that that that that to me is the bottom
line is right. And again, Jalen Hurst, we were talking
about this yesterday, right, we were talking about this was
interesting how this sort of evolved. So we were all
in agreement. There are four quarterbacks in the NFL that
are just another level Mahomes, Allen Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.

(43:09):
So we're all all good. Right, four guys. So I
asked the question, who is the number five quarterback? And
so it was Chris that said, he goes Jalen Hurts. No, no, Chris, Yeah,
that's why he had Hurts. He had Hurts, and he
had Hurts, and you jumped up and said, yeah, that's
the guy Hurts. And then I said that's the guy.

(43:30):
And then by the end of the conversation you're like, well,
wait a second, why isn't Jalen Hurts ahead of Josh Allen.
I'm like, well, if you're going to put him ahead
of Josh Allen, then you should put him ahead of
Lamar Jackson because he's been to two Super Bowls, He's
won a Super Bowl, he's been a Super Bowl MVP.
He could have been a two time Super Bowl MVP
if he didn't just drop the ball randomly in that
game and losing to Kansas City and a half. So

(43:53):
if it's based on getting to Super Bowls winning championships,
then he's ahead of Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson because
they haven't even been to a Super Bowl either, one
of those guys. So all of a sudden, we just
we determined that no, it's not four, it's five. Five
quarterback quarterback Jalen Hurts is in that mix.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
And I and it's just a question. I know my
guy Bernie is still listening, but this is valid. Guys,
It's just a question, why can't I put Jalen Hurts
over Josh Allen. Josh Allen is a guy that they
keep telling us he's gonna get Buffalo there, They're gonna
beat Mahomes in the postseason, they're gonna win the Super Bowl.

(44:34):
Why can't you Shoulamar Johnna get to that in a second.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
But he's done none of that.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
He's done absolutely none of what people have been telling
us Josh Allen is gonna do.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
But here's Jalen.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Hurts who has done what we ask and we judged
quarterbacks to do twice and he's out played the guy
that people were calling to go over Brady just over
a year ago. He I played him in the biggest
games on the biggest stage two times, beating.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
The hell out of him last year.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I'm not saying that he is. I just want to know,
why can't we do that?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Why are we.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Still putting Josh Allen over a guy like Jalen Hursts
who's done what we ask quarterbacks to do.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Now about Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Lamar Jackson has two MVPs and should have add a third.
Josh Allen's three and five quarterback.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
In the posts.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I'm gonna get there. He shouldn't even have it. Josh
Allen shouldn't even have an MVPN.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
We know it.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Last year was a sympathy pick because let's get this
guy something.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
This is just my opinion. But let's get this guy
something because he's got.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Nothing, and we gotta figure out how we can keep
telling the football fans that Josh Allen is right up
there with Joe Burrow Pat Mahos and he's gonna win one.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So let's get him an MVP so you can get
that talk going.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
As far as Lamar Jackson, I admit it yesterday, this
is the year he's gotta get there. And I'm a
Lamar Jackson god, but this year, what he does between
September six in New Year's Day means absolutely nothing to me.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I've gotta see Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Win it when it matters the most hard or he's
just gonna fall into that category in my eyes of
Josh Allen, and then I will put Jalen Hurts over him,
especially if Jalen Hurts gets to like a conference championship game.

Speaker 9 (46:23):
Again.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
It gets back to the Super Josh Allen is seven
and six in the postseason. Lamar Jackson's three and five,
and neither one of them been to the Super Bowl,
and neither one been to the Silper Bowl. By the way,
you were talking about two time MVPs. You always love
to dismiss Kurt Warner, by the way, he got to
three Super Bowls. He usually could have won three Super Bowls.
He won one and then he was you know, had
so I again, this is not to knock Lamar Jackson's

(46:46):
regular season numbers because they speak for yourself, of course.
But again, if you're rating quarterbacks, absolutely Jalen Hurts is
in the conversation. And if you're going to talk about
the top quarterbacks in the NFL and you include and
you say, well, what about the Joe Bury situation, Well,
Burrow's five and two in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Guess what, he beat the Chief on the road. He
get two a Super so he's been to one. So
Burrow can stayed there. But I tell you this, though
Burrow's clock is starting, they take two O Adam Kaplan.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
We bought it.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
That stuck with a miserable He's a miserble franchise that
played no defense. He could beat Dann Marino, Guys, he
could beat this guy that got to Super Bowl early.
Marino did blow us away with all these numbers. But
because his franchise just never helps him. He could be
a Cincinnati for the next five or six years, guys,
and not even get to a conference championship game.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Again. I think we brought this up yesterday with Adam
Kaplan and he agreed with you, and I agree with you.
It potentially because the Bengals have never been an organization
that make the financial commitment. When you're when you're squabbling
with Trey Hendrickson, you're the only defensive player. You got
a penny worth and you're sex paid one of the

(47:54):
top pass rushers in the league. Who else do you
have on your defense? I mean, it just goes to show.
I even said this when the Bengals got to the
Super Bowl and the whole world was falling in love
with Joe Burrow, and I said, well, don't get used
to it, because I'm telling you the Bengals don't make
the kind of investment necessary. If you look at his
numbers last year, you could eat Lamar had amazing numbers,

(48:17):
but he also had a great running back. Sitting next
to look at Joe Burrow's numbers. I know he's throwing
to Jamar Chase, but his numbers were off the charts.
But he was eliminated from the m VP conversation because
again his team, you don't make the playoffs, you're not
going to end up any MVP award.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
So mix in a running back sust he didn't have
he didn't have scrap, you know, lining up behind him.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
By the way, also from yesterday, So yesterday, I and
I have been saying this, and I I don't think
I'm wrong. Of course I never think I'm wrong. So
let's let's let's when I say something, believe me.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I am one hundred percent what I have to gain.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
But what I said was, I believe that when I
watched the Chiefs get blasted in that Super Bowl and
all season long. You know the Chiefs, I mean they
had a throwaway game in the last game against Danford,
the US thirty five. Nothing that the throwaway. No one
was playing fifteen to one going into that game, right,
But all season long we were like, man, this is

(49:19):
like the worst seven to zero team, the worst ten
and one team, or we said it all season long.
Their offense wasn't clicking. I think they only had one
regular season game where they even scored thirty point. They
struggled to score twenty. Defense Chris Jones was, you know,
their defense was dominant, but the offense bore no resemblance
to the offense we saw just a few years before,

(49:39):
and Travis Kelcey obviously is time's going on. You know,
the fact that Travis kelce decides to come back for
one more time really had to do like, I'm not
going to have my career walking off the field humiliated
in the Super Bowl. But he probably should have shou.
I mean, so, I just feel like we're due. And
when we look at that AFC West, I mean, I

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know it was a preseason game yesterday, but I am
telling you here's the stat I'm going to give you.
They have a way to evaluate the strength of offensive
and defensive line. There's two teams right now in the NFL,
based on what they did a year ago that were
top three in the league on both sides. One was
the Eagles, the other is the Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos.

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Assuming the bow Knicks can build on what he did
a year ago, and when Sean Payton as his mentor,
I don't I don't think there's a doubt that he'll
continue to develop. The Broncos on paper, honestly, are a
better team right now than the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean,
the difference obviously is Mahomes versus Nicks. I'm not going
to deny that, but when you look at the overall
strength of these teams, you could certainly make the argument

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the Broncos could be there. You still got to do
it on the field. Jim Harbaugh is a miracle worker.
He showed it last year with the Chargers. I do
have questions about the Chargers this year. And then again
when we talk about Pete Carroll and Seattle Energy. Man,
automatically they're better. Geno Smith's a better quarter they haven't

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had a quarterback in years. So it's going to be
a much tougher division, a much tougher test, and so
I could see like the Chiefs actually being not back
a notch.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I think the Chargers can win this division. I know Slater,
I know I know Rashawn Slater is out. They have
some questions, man, Listen questions when you have the type
of coaching staff Harbaugh's put together there.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
In the strength and conditioning program.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
When I've reached out and talked to some Chiefs players
and some sources that I have with the organization, they
talk about how stronger this team is and.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
How fast they are. This year.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
They're faster than they were last year, and they're bigger
and they're stronger. He brought the same conditioning, strength and
conditioning guy back with him down here that he had
at Michigan, which started turning off those guys into NFL
draft picks and players. So it's the same guy that
brought the same training and strength and conditioning program down
here to LA and these guys they're bigger, they're faster,

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and they're longer this year, and they're a year deeper
into the Harball culture. Like they all walk it, they
talk it. It's the same from top to bottom, because
it's just what the hell he does. This division is
still tough. The Chiefs to me, are still the twelve
win team. They're not gonna fall off the map. Are
They're gonna go.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Into Week eight, seventeen, fifteen and one?

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Absolutely not unless there's something that's gonna happen on the offense.
And like what then, Xavier was the receiver right in
Texas who is a burner. But you just can't be
a burner in the NFL. You're gonna have to learn
how to run routes. And now that Kelsey has taken
major stuts back as far his productivity, even if you
just look at the numbers. You can put the film on,
but if you look at the numbers, it was now
not believe anywhere between like fifty eight to sixty two

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receiver yards a game.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
It was just it was bad. It was all it was.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Averaging like eight yards of cat. Yeah, yeah, it was.
It's over like he's not that guy no more. That's
and that's fine. It happens to everybody, But that Bronco
team is the question mark to me. The Raiders, I
still think, are a team that's gonna be in every game.
But because it's it's still new, they still got some
pieces they gotta replace.

Speaker 9 (53:03):
There.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Can they unleash genty? Right, he's gonna be. He's gonna
be the key of him. But I still can see
them in like seven and ten, which is an improvement.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
It won't be about if the Raiders go seven and ten,
it's not a bad year for them, Ladies and gentlemen.
It's that means, okay, we're we're we're moving toward. Because
this is what Pete Carroll does. It takes a year,
but to kind of get his thing going.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
You gotta you gotta have the next quarterback in place, right,
which they don't wish, they don't.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Gino's maybe one placeholders exactly, and that's gonna be the
main right, hey, Joe.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
But fans won absolutely not yesterday. I mean that's good.
I mean, I love fans and is for fanatic be
a fan of your team. I'm believable. All right. Coming
up on the other side, we're gonna take a little
break from the NFL because we got to catch up
in a little major league baseball. We're gonna check in
with our buddy, John Paul MOROSEI. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

(54:01):
Steve Hartman and VJ. Husky Fox Sports Sunday. We're in
the Fox Sports Radio studios, all right, once again, and
honor for us to be joined by a man that
needs no introduction, but I'll give it anyway because he's
the best of the best at whatever he does. And yes,
he's a Michigan Wolverine fan to the core. John Paul

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Morosi is joining us right now. JP. As we get
closer to the start of the college football season, we're
gonna definitely hit you up on that. But I'm not
going to waste time. I want to talk about a
certain major league baseball team, right now. This team is
currently first in the National League and team batting average
first in the National League and team earn run average,

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and they have the most wins in the majors. They
are four and a half games clear of every other
team in Major League Baseball. I'm talking about the Milwaukee Brewers.
Why isn't anybody talking about the Milwaukee Brewers who are
playing the best bat baseball right now, number one in
the National League both team batting average and team erra.
Are we overlooking the Brewers as a serious threat to

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win a World Championship this year?

Speaker 9 (55:13):
They are absolutely a serious candidate to win the World Series.
And if you are overlooking them, if you're a fan
or a broadcaster anywhere around North America or the larger
baseball world, if you are overlooking the Brewers, it is
to your own detriment for two reasons. Number one, they
play a great brand of baseball. They're a lot of

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fun to watch. And number two, you might be passing
up the opportunity to learn more about the team that's
going to eventually win the World Series in twenty twenty five,
because not only are they a good team to begin with,
even BJ, but they're getting better because you look at
the impact that Brandon Woodruff has had since they added
him to the active roster, a two point twenty nine ERA,

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a four and zero record and six starts. They called
up someone in a young Isaac Collins, a switch hitting
out there, or who has become all of a sudden,
one of the most important players, and a twenty one OPS.
Christian Yellis has in many ways found a rejuvenating phase
of his major league career. Andrew Vaughn, who was discarded

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by the Chicago White Sox, now all of a sudden,
it's playing like an All star in Milwaukee and ops
above a thousand. There is something about the culture of
that team, manager Pat Murphy, the athletic brand of baseball.
They play, the way they run the bases, the way
they defend players like South Freelich and Bryce Terrang. It's

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an elite team in all phases of the game. They
may not have a thirty homer bopper, the team leader
right now has twenty one, and Yellich and he's the
only one with more than twenty, but they're proving right now,
Steven bj that you can win without someone on a
record setting home run pace like Cal Rale been for

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a period of the season or when Aaron Judge was healthy.
That that, to me is the big question right now
is can you put it together and win without that
Judge like figure in your lineup? And I believe right
now the Brewers are proving the answer.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Is yes, my man, JP Morosi, always a pleasure to
be talking with you, buddy. I'm gonna get a chance
to dispread your wings man, because when we look at
the Major League season, we talked last weekend about how
this is going to be a hell of a rundown
to stretch. I mean, the league just feels really jumbled up.
We're talking about the Brewers being a contender. I don't
know the last time we've said that. Maybe says Bob

(57:37):
Yucker was doing Major league for the Cleveland Indians back
in those days in that movie. But I give us
a storyline. Where should the casual fan that's tuning in
right now, or even the deep baseball guy, where should
we be looking for a storyline that we're gonna be like.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Hey, did you see this team?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Or a watch out for this guy or for this
last let's say the next four to five weeks. Give
the fans a storyline or something to keep the eye on.

Speaker 9 (58:02):
Well, it is the league and the year of the unexpected,
as you're describing it, And what I'll say is one
of the more expected stories that has recently pulled himself
back into focus is the Dodgers and the way they're
playing it. And I think the biggest question that I have,
and you can never go wrong talking about superstars, is

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how many innings will Otani be able to give the
Dodgers as a starting pitcher in the month of October?
And then along with Otani, how big of a factor
can Clayton Kershaw be in what could be the final
October of his illustrious Hall of Fame career. He has
come back. Clayton has, of course, He won of this

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memorable duel against his former teammate Max Scherzer on Friday
Night against the Toronto Blue Jays and pitched very, very well,
maybe not vintage Kershaw dominance from the peak of his
but he shut down a very good American League lineups
in Dodger Stadium on Friday night. So for me, it's

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it's the question of can the Dodgers find a way
to repeat and can they do it in a way
that's a little bit different with this time Kershaw being
a much more important part of the rotation than he
was a year ago. And then can Otani start and
go deep into postseason games? Because the one thing that
we have never seen to this point in Otani's career

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is Otani doing the two way thing in October. That
has not happened. We saw him do it for the
six months of the season with the Angels. We saw
him do it the two way dynamo role for Team
Japan and the World Baseball Classic. Well that was March.
Now we want to see it in October. How far
can he take the Dodgers in October? The other piece

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is the team's right by behind them in the Padres.
Can they close the gap further and get even more
of a bump from their trade deadline movement and potentially
close the gap on the Dodgers, maybe win the division.
Of course, they're a team that has never won the
World Series. They've been there twice, they've never won it.
And as for teams that have never done something fill

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in the blank. VJ. I always love being able to
say a sentence and say that you're trying. You're watching
a team try to do something that has never happened before.
And that team in the American League right now is
the Seattle Mariners. They have never played in a World Series,
let alone won a World Series. And right now they

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are nine and one since the trade deadline, since they
got Iohannio Swadez and Josh Sandler. And it wasn't just
what they have done. In fact, Swatz has been His
production really hasn't been anything of note to this point,
but his presence has mattered. The way they're winning games
is very impressive. So I always say, if you could,

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if you could state that we're about to see something
for the first time ever, or that a team has
a chance to make true history, that would be the
Seattle Mariners with a chance to be in the World
Series for the first time in the history of pro
baseball in the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
By the way, I was out at Dodgers Stadium on
Friday doing TV work before that matchup between kershaw And
and Shuzer, and we had this insane stat September seventh,
two thousand and eight, two rookie pitchers first year in
the major leagues face each other. Was the Dodgers versus
the Diamondbacks Kershaw versus Shureser, and here we are, almost

(01:01:42):
seventeen years later and these two first ballot Hall of
Famers going ahead. I just love that kind of stuff.
You know, a lot of history in the sport, and
both those guys, you know, they don't have the stuff
they used to have, but the one thing that never
diminishes is the competitive fire. And oh yeah, and by
the way, the big thing that came out of that
game for the Dodgers because things are becoming you know,

(01:02:02):
Blake Snell's pitching pretty well now since he came back.
Glass now is looking pretty good. Since he came back.
They got Rookie Sasaki on some you know, rehab assignments.
They're hoping he gets Sasaki back, but they need Mookie
Bets back. And that home run, the Mookie Bets hit
against Sureser was huge. He had hit a home run
in six weeks and he could just see, you know,

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he's been struggling. The fans are so supportive of Mookie.
So yeah, I mean we're talking about the Brewers. They're
on fire right now, obviously, especially with their manager hiding
all those snacks. What what what was that snack story?
What was that about.

Speaker 9 (01:02:37):
Well, he apparently has a pancake that he keeps in
his pocket during the game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Okay, that doesn't sound good.

Speaker 9 (01:02:48):
No, it would not be my It would not be
my first.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Choice of a pocket pancake nourishment. I mean, like, like,
first of all, I mean when I think pancake, I
think right, And you can't have syrup in your pocket.
So yeah, when he pulled out the pancake and just
like a dry pancake.

Speaker 9 (01:03:11):
And credit my friend Tricia Whittaker. She she did some
very intrupted reporting on this, uh during the the Apple
broadcast and got murphed to talk about it. It became
a bit of a moment where where it got a
little popular around around the baseball world. So I credit Murphy. Listen,
he's got he almost has this Dan Campbell esque way

(01:03:34):
of getting his guys to believe and just this this
irrepressible optimism and grit and toughness. It's rare that that
that you're able to see a coach or a manager
combine this rugged toughness that that both Dan Campbell and
a and a Pat Murphy project while also being relentlessly

(01:03:58):
supportive and affirming of their players. And I think that
and merphed by the way, he has a high school
football coach in his background. He did actually he actually
coach at the college level briefly too, So he's one
of these guys that has done it all in sports.
And I do think that Pats on winding journey, that
many different chapters of his life have led him to

(01:04:20):
being a really interesting leader and person. He's got four
kids between the ages of forty and like eight, so
he's gotten this really broad perspective on life from these
different seasons of his life. And just I have a
lot of respect and love for the work that Pat
Murphy does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
All right, Well, next time we talk to you, better
get ready on your college football because Week zero of
the college football season is coming up here in a
couple of weeks, so we're going to brush up on
that as well. You know, Vj's a big Wolverines guy.
Let's really got a lot to catch up with.

Speaker 9 (01:04:56):
I love it. I'm excited for it. You know, we've
got we've got multiple allegiances in my family. So since
I did not go to Michigan, of course I follow
the team because of where I live. My wife went there,
my dad went to Michigan State. My grandmother was a
devoted Notre Dame fan. So I've got all these different
traditions that are part of our family, and so I

(01:05:16):
kind of have to keep up with really all three
of those teams, and then more even across the big ten,
which as you know, you know those are you in LA.
I welcome you all in the Midwest now that you're
part of our conference, so I wish you a hearty welcome.
And you're basically now considered neighbors. LA is effectively West Chicago,
So now you're you're part of our family.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Here absolutely, And of course his family was very disappointed
that he had to settle to go to Harvard, and
it was such a disappointment for the Morosi family. JP.
As always, we appreciate the time. We'll catch up next week.
Thanks JP, all.

Speaker 9 (01:05:51):
The best, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I really appreciate it that have a great week, Yeah, goblos.
I mean, here's this guy who's like a Michigan guy
to the core, right, but he had to settle to
go to Harvard for college. Then he came back, you know,
so slumming a little bit. All right, let's find out
what is a trendy right now? MONSI fellas, I always
know what time it is.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
No, you don't stop telling people what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I'm not saying anything you're doing on our update right
now exactly. I'm gonna mention anything.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Yeah, oh yeah, some type you boy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
But it's easy for I don't even have to look
at the clock. It's like clockwork.

Speaker 10 (01:06:25):
It's like clockwork, That's what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
We've got some scoring going on in this preseason game
between the Dolphins and the Bears in Chicago.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
A little back and forth action in.

Speaker 7 (01:06:36):
The third quarter. Case Keenum connected with Dean Hankins on
a forty yard touchdown pass four Chicago right now for Miami.
Allie Gordon the second with a rushing touchdown, so Miami
is back on top. Twenty one seventeen is a score
they just got going in the fourth quarter of this
preseason game. Still to come in NFL preseason action, the
Saints taking on.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
The Chargers from SOFI Stadium.

Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
Kickoff is in about twenty five minutes at four eastern.

Speaker 6 (01:07:02):
On Saturday night times.

Speaker 7 (01:07:03):
Running Back Tajay Spears suffered suffered a high ankle spring.
He's gonna be out a few weeks, it was it
was announced by head coach Brian Callahan. NFL Network is
reporting that Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is going to return
to practice on Monday. When it comes to baseball, Jack
Peterson put the Rangers on the scoreboard first against the Phillies.
It's two to one top of the fourth inning. The Brewers,

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who have won eight in a row, best team in
baseball right now, are losing to the Mets, who have
lost six in a row. New York is up six
to three top of the fifth. White Sox still on
top of the Guardians five to one. Top of the
fifth as well. Angels are on the scoreboard, but Detroit
is up seven to three. Top of the sixth inning.
The Braves have taken the lead from the Marlins three
to one. Top of the seventh. A's and Orioles tied

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at one apiece. Bottom of the seventh.

Speaker 8 (01:07:49):
Yankees can't score, Astros have scored more. It's four zero
top of the seventh. Reds and Pirates were tied.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
Not anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
Cincinnati up seven to four top of the seventh inning,
and there's a tie game in minute soda between the
Royals and the Twins.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
There tied to three apiece.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
It is the top of the ninth inning at the
FedEx Saint Jude Championship. It's been back and forth between
a couple of golfers here at the top of the leaderboard.

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
JJ Spawn is now in the lead at.

Speaker 7 (01:08:13):
Fourteen underd part overall. He is through nine holes. Scotti
Scheffler is one shot back through nine holes. Justin Rose
is also one shot back alongside Tommy Fleetwood.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
They're through eight holes. Back to you guys, all right,
thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Months yes, yes, jess now I know what time it is.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
It is, yes, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
What we're in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Be sure
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(01:08:57):
we were talking about Travis Hunter yesterday or early on
the show today, and by the way, he was the
first guy to come off the sidelines to do a
chess pump with Cam Little, the Jaguars kicker that kicked
that seventy yard field goal. So I looked this up.

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In the Super Bowl era, there have actually been eight
field goal attempts of seventy yards or more in an
actual regular season game. Obviously none have been made. Tucker
has the all time record at sixty six yards. But yeah,
that was If you're wondering who was doing that immediate
chess bump with the kicker cam little seventy yard field goal.

(01:09:46):
It's funny when they showed him when he kicked the ball,
It shows you how long the ball was in the
air because he was like watching, we watch, he's watching
seventy yards. Do you know if you see where he's
got his and the kick that yes? I mean uh,
and he cleared it by about three or four yards.
How wasn't it blocked?

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Because you have to start and a low trajectory trajectory,
how was it not blocked?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I didn't really notice if he was, you know, normally
your seven yards behind the line of scrimmage when you
line up for a field goal attempt. Did he move
back a yard? I would imagine a little bit, because you,
like you say, in order to get it that far,
it's got to be a lower trajectory, so you gotta
step back a little bit. Here's the thing too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
These field goals are actually longer than their titled right,
because the crossbar is in the air. It's like the crossbar.
How far is the crossbar from the ground?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Well, yeah, he's got to be something like that, right, guy,
don't if.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
You're actually talking about where the ball would lamb. Right? Yeah, Well,
well here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
If it lands right on the back end zone line,
didn't that seventy yards?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
But being at it's gotta have height to it, doesn't
that mean? No question? What do you want to know?
Because I mean, let's say like a home run, right,
so it's let's say it clears four hundred feet, but
it's going beyond this, going beyond that. Yeah, So no,
you actually have to kick at least eighty yards, right,
So make a seventy yard field right, So it wasn't

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a seventy yard field goal.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
It was seventy plus because the ball doesn't have to
hit the in line or past the inline of the
end zone, which is actually the yard is that you're
telling us the kick is because once you add height
to it, that's extra yards.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
It has the Like I said, if I'm asking a
dumb question. Just tweet me no, no, no. I feel
like though, but my physics grade wasn't an A. But
I mean, I tell you what, there is one highlight
of a play in the NFL history that I never
get tired of watching, and that was the Tom Dempsey

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sixty three yard field goal in nineteen seventy for the
Saints against the Lines. The record was fifty six yards.
I was twelve years old and I was at the
Rams game that day at the Coliseum against the Falcons,
dreadfield game, tenting game, and they announced that this guy
Tom Dempsey of the Saints had just kicked a sixty
three hour field goal. Being a stackeek as I was

(01:12:14):
even then, I looked at it. I'm like, sixty three yards?
What do you do? Because in those days the goal
line was at the goalpost, ride of the goal line, right,
So he kicked the ball from his own thirty seven
yard line. That's crazy. And when there's aerial views of
this thing and you're like, there's no way. And he
was a straight ahead kicker. Like you said, he had
half a foot, so he basically had a mallet. Alex

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karras great Alex Krris, who was rushing on the play
for the Lion, said, when he hit the ball, he goes.
I've never heard that sound before. It was like a
cannon blast and the ball clears and I'll never get
The official at the goal line jumped in the air.
He could not believe it that he had gone over
the crossbar. I love that, But seventy yards, man, that

(01:12:58):
is a blast. I don't know if it can ever
be done again. It would have to be the end
of the half or the end of the game, whenever.
What else. You're not going to attempt a seventy yard
field goal where you're giving the ball right back to
the other team at the line of screwage. So the
only time you would attempt a field goal like that
would be right at the last play of the half
or the end of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Well, and you mentioned the record that Dempsey beat was
fifty six. Right, we scoff at kickers from missing fifty
six nowadays. Right, I'm a firm believer kickers, but those
are all straight ahead kickers.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Right, But kickers nowadays should never never.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Miss field goals under fifty yards unless it's implement weather.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Well, did you remember last year we had that great
start of the year for the kickers where they're they
were hitting like seventy percent of the field goals from
beyond fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Yards, which you should though in today's era where you
can't rush over to center, the blocking has to come
at least from outside. The guards are off the end,
you have a clear view. You you know technologies. Different
health is different medicines, different train and it's different. These
kickers got stronger layers. There's exercises and training you can
do in the off season to make your legs stronger

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that they didn't have thirty forty fifty years ago. It's
like in basketball, I scoff win, like guards shoot below
eighty five percent from the free throw line. Your guard
you shoot all the time like shooting guard. Right, the
word shooting is in the title of what you do
for live.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Shooting and making or two different things.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Well, I mean if you if you can't make it,
they're not a shooting guard, you're a small forward or
you're coming off the sixth man of the year. Yeah,
of some stuff, but I just did in today's day
and age, kickers are hitting sixty like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
And when I saw that hit seventy.

Speaker 9 (01:14:38):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
It was cool, but it didn't surprise me because you know,
eventually these guys are gonna be kicked in. Watch somebody's
gonna hit like a seventy one seventy two. Watch somebody
won that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Again, there's a little risk reward on that because your
percentages are high. But the guy did it. He proved
it can be done. It seventy hord field goal. Even
you will never see it in the record books because
it was a preseason game. That's what sucks. It sucks,
but we saw it. We know what happened. All right.
Coming up on the other side, we're going to continue
to update you around the National Football League. We got

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preseason games going on. We're watching, we're gonna tell you
what we see. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Harvinhwsky, Fox
Sports Sunday here in the Fox Sports Radio studios. So
I'm a I'm really a stickler about names and pronunciations.
It's more of a TV thing than a radio thing

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to me. But I remember when Marcus Mariota won the
Heisman Trophy. We had him on as a guest and
I asked him because I kept hearing people calling him
Mariota Oda, and it's like he's he made it clear,
it's actually Mariota. It's not Marcus Mariota. It's Marcus Mariota,
and I still hear people call him Mariota. Same thing

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with John. It's not John Calipari, it's Caliperi. Okay, so
I'm a little bit of a stickler. But then I'm
a little thrown right now by the guy that was
the number one pick in the draft. So when Commissioner
Goodell said, the Tennessee Titans select Cameron Ward quarterback University
of Miami, and I'm like, is it going to be

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Cameron or cam? So everywhere you see cam, but you
know where it's Cameron. On the Tennessee Titans website, he
is listed as Cameron Ward and not cam Ward. We
had this with Cam Newton as well. Is it cam
Newton is a Cameron Newton. We settled in on Cam Newton.
So I'm still trying to figure this out because everywhere

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you list it says cam Ward, cam Ward, caam Ward.
But on the actual Titans site and as the Titans
wanted him introduced when he was selected first, overall, it's Cameron.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Ward, Cameron Well was Cameron Newton too, but as is. Listen,
if he balls out, it'll be It'll be Cam.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
It'll be Cam.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
If he does it, it's going to continue to be
Cameron Ward. So that just tell you you'll know how
his career is going. By the way he's addressed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
He's had an amazing career, you know, incarnate word, Washington State,
then the big year in Miami. But I know it
was a preseason game. He was fine, but the Titans
are bad. Yeah, I mean this is a bad Colts
and the Colts yeah, I mean, what's your guests, and
we're gonna see cam Ward do something.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
I mean, listen, we all know every rookie quarterback doesn't
pan out. Every team doesn't pan out that drafts a
rookie quarterback. So there's gonna be one of these teams
that aren't gonna look good this year, and the quarterback
will go through some some highs and lows and go
through some some some bad, bad Sundays. But it doesn't
help too that you play in the division with some

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really tough defense, and then he's in the AFC and
the AFC is just once again, it's stacked. They they
when you just look at just the way their season starts.
They started the Broncos, then they get the Rams at home,
that is the division game of the Colts, in another
division game at the Texas, and then the game at
the Cardinals, and then the game at the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
What did they do to the schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Makers to get three straight road games before October twelfth?

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Return home against the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Then the coach Courts, excuse me, coach Chargers, Texans, Seahawks,
and Jackson. That's and that's up until November thirteenth, November thirtieth,
So I mean, you know, they got a lot of holes, yet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
The number one pick for a reason. Number one. Nothing
go to Now we'll see We've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Worse the first division wise from year to year in NFL,
but rarely does the team that have the number one
overall pick end up being a playoff contender, super Bowl
contender the following year. They got a lot of holes,
A lot of stuff are gonna you know, it's gonna
depend on him. The running back Spears has already got
an ankle, he's out for the preseason. That's not gonna
get better as the year goes on. So now you're

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down a running back and you know, trying to figure
out what you're doing at the receiver position here. As
far as I'm concerned, man, maybe maybe three wins. I mean,
you're gonna have to hand the ball to Tony Pollard
a lot. And that's about it. But even when you
look at their receiving corps, Ta Kwan Jackson and Van Jefferson.
You know, he's a name people remember, Tyler Lockett, but
he's an older guy. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Well, you know, here's the thing. We've seen it change
because of Nil obviously, the guys staying in college. And
I think this is going to be good for the NFL.
The more experienced that these quarterbacks get at the collegiate level.
We had bo Nick started more games at the Division
one level than any quarterback in college history. Stepped in
as a rookie, Boom got it done. Cam Ward I

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was looking over his numbers in Cardif, where this guy,
as a freshman was during the COVID year. They only
played six games. He averaged thirty completions a game, not
attempts completions per game. This guy has thrown an amazing
amount of passes during his time in college. At and
Cardifa were Washington State and Miami, and he was never hurt,

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never never missed any games. So his durability and the
fact that he is just used to getting in and
throwing the football, I mean, he got to give him
some weapons, You got to give him some help around.
You got to have an offensive line that's going to
keep him up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
We saw what happened to Bryce Young at Carolina. When
you're running for your life, man, it's really hard. Yeah
a week, it's hard. I mean, you know, you gotta
be able to get set, get into rhythm. That's where
that's where these quarterbacks are. You know, once they can
get a little time, get into rhythm, they can really
light it up. I'm rooting for camb Ware. I love
his story. I mean from incarnate word all the way

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to the number one pick in the NFL draft.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Yeah, that's a cool story, but that don't mean not
once you get to the NFL. Very young team too.
They have two players over ten years experience in the NFL.
So this is a very very young football team.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Yeah, it's a complete do over there in Tennessee. So
he looked decent in his opening assignment. We'll see how
he fares the rest of the year. All right. Coming
up in the next hour, we got more NFL news
to get too through the preseason and look ahead with
our per fet picks. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Oh,

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we are having as much fun as it is humanly
possible because we to talk football, because this football going
on right now. Again, this is Fox Sports Sunny. We're
in the Fox Sports Radio studios and yeah, I get it,
games don't count right now, but just to see the
guys out there, and we're actually, I'll be honest with you,

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we've been seeing more starting quarterbacks actually participate than I anticipated.
In the first preseason. You remember how it used to be.
BJ used to have four preseason games, not three, and
then you know, first couple of weeks maybe a little
spot duty, and then the third game was like a
dress rehearsal, like a full half, like first string full half.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
You know it's gonna be come out of a halftime
like you know, with the starter absolutely depending on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, that third game, and in a four game preseason
schedule was like a dress rehearsal game. Then you would
sit guys the last game, make the final cuts, and
then the season would begin and we didn't have to
buy week, right, so we would go like, you know,
right from the preseason into the regular season. Now you're
down to three preseason games unless you're in the Hall
of Fame game, and then you have the bye week,

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and then you get to the regular season. Now, I
love the fact that college football gets the spotlight that week,
but it's it's a weird dynamic, right, you're you're I mean,
as we're engaging right now, we're talking NFL. We're all
ready to go, all right, by the end of the preseason,
they cut down the rosters, we have an opinion, we're
ready to make our picks. Right, you got your fantasy football,
You're making your picks, you know, over Runders, the whole shebang.

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And we'll do that as we always do here as
we get ready for a big season of Red Zone
Radio where we make all of our preseason picks right
and we basically break it down literally every single team
around the National Football League. We're going to awards this
year MVP Defensive Player of the Year. Well that's on
the she come back. Okay, Well we had the most

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Valuable Player. My pick last year for MVP was Joe Burrow.
I feel cheated because he had an MVPC said certainly
had MVP stats, but his team was Lamar Jackson. I
got robbed.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Well that'shits my picks for almost money. Last year, my
Super Bowl was Raven's Eagles. I had the Eagles winning
it all, and I had Lamar Jackson as the MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
I had the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Oh and I had the Titans as the worst team.
But I had the Cowboys winning the Super Bowl. I
know that I'm a guy that takes it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
But then then you had to make an out of
the box prediction, exactly am I out of the box
prediction was the Denver Broncos to make the playoffs. You
and a few other it was like you and I think,
I know Martin was one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
Also, to think two other guys here had Broncos make playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
They don't think on that sheet. No, it was I was.
I was. I just I didn't think it was that
but big of a reach. I knew the Broncos had
a pretty good defense and it was all about bo Nicks,
But I just thought, what the experience this kid had,
you know, playing in the SEC, playing in the PAC twelve,
you know, big time games, more starts than any other

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quarterback ever at that point at the Division one level,
and was Peyton who made it clear. Remember he was
the sixth quarterback taken in that first round, twelfth overall pick,
and Sean Payton from day one said, I got my guy. Well,
this was my guy. That's what you supposed to say.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Well there was a reason why, No, there was a
reason why Minnesota trade it up for JJ, because that's
who chan Payne went. Because I'm so sure about that.
I'm just going by what I was, just going by
the way it worked out and what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
I was told. I just looked at bow Knicks's game
Bill Nicks. First of all, when you think about bow Knicks,
he is a mobile quarterback. He's always been a mobile quarterback.
He can beat you with the arm. His accuracy was
insane that last year at Oregon. What was he seventy
eight percent? It was crazy numbers. But he also ran
for like four or five hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
But why would Minnesota move up? Minnesota move because they
wanted JJ McCarthy. JJ was going to fall to them.
JJ was going to fault at them. Because you better
hope the JI saw that.

Speaker 9 (01:24:57):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
You realize the over under on the Vikings, who won
four teen games last year with Sam Darnold is nine
and a half. Yeah, I'm not worried about that. I
mean I'm worried. No, But think about it for a second. Here,
they they're smart people. Take the over. You look at
the number and you're like, what are they just give
me money away? Take the over? Well, it would seem
like it would be a guaranteed over. Well, here's the thing.

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Why is that number so low?

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Because everyone is talking about Okay, so just you and
I are in the landscape of this business, right like
our ears into the ground, our feet on the ground.
We both do TV and radio, you know as well
as I do. There are people that are not believing
in Jordan Love and the Packers. And then there are
people say, well, the Lions lost both coordinators.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
You know, last year was a fluke.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Okay, so we're saying these things, then somebody's got to
be good in that division. This entire deca that was
zero to three in the postseason, and we're not talking
about we're not talking about the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
We're talking about the regular season. But that was the
last time we saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
The topic is the regular season you're telling me that
everyone in this division is finishing at eighty nine. No,
that's not happening. The NFC is not that strong this year.
The AFC is the superior conference.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
We all know it. But at the end of the day,
somebody in this division and this NFC North going is
going to win. Okay, let's going to win. Okay, let's
last thirteen games. I think we can sit here right now.
You're the world champion Eagles, so that's the team to
be in the NFC. Of course, you gotta go through them.
Who's the number two team in the NFC right now?

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
And I still would like to lean on the Lions
because of just the talent that they have there there.
Last year, by the time they got to the Commander's game,
they were signing guys off the street to play defense.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
You cannot do that in any NFL. You have zero
shot And Jayden Daniels and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
The reason why I think that win is a little
overrated because he was really going against guys who hadn't played.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
All year long. Rookie quarterback. That's not the point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
The point rookie quarterback, and he's in his eighteenth nineteenth
at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
He's already had a good year. He can move, he
can make plays, he can use his Lions Terry mcclub.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Doesn't matter when you are trying to suit up guys
to play on the NFL level. On the defensive side
of the ball in a playoff game, Listen, did the
Lions offense struggle?

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
They scored thirty plus.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
The Lion's office wasn't the problem, but they gave up
forty two.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
You can't do that. You're gonna win defenses win.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Championship, and you definitely not win the championship defensive guys
that you are signing off the street. So to answer
your question, number two for me will still be the
Lions because you get a lot of Listen, Hutchess's bad guys.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
They missed a lot of guys on it down a second.
Let's let's bring on our resident, the Lion expert right now,
he's gonna agree with me, Chris Purfet. We are talking
about the Lions. Do you believe knowing that the Eagles
are reigning world champions, so you have to say they're
the top team currently going into the season in the NFC,

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do you still believe the Lions are the number two team,
because that's what VJ is saying right now. And as
you answer this, being the insider that you are on
what goes on with the Lions? Have they Are they
going to have a representative defense? Are guys going to
be healthy? Are we going to see Aiden Hutchinson return
is a dominant pass rusher, you know, twelve thirteen fourteen

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sack guy? Are we going to see a dramatically different
Lions defense than we saw at the end of last season.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
I don't think it's going to be terribly dramatically different
from the start of the season, but there's no getting
around the fact that nearly every last starter on that
defense was gone by the time of the NFC Divisional game.
There's no other way around it. And at this point
in the NFL's life, going from your starters to a
backup is a just deeper golf than it ever.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Has, especially across the board.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Across the board, including guys like Alex Angeloni, who was
basically the quarterback of the defense, especially for someone like
Aiden Hutchinson and who was on like historic record numbers
before a freak accident for him, especially after losing a
Lee McNeil, who's the anchor of the defensive line. Like,
I think that entire front seven was basically replaced, and

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they didn't even have healthy linebackers middle of the and
like Carlton Davis was lost, most a lot of their
dbs were gone too. Likes it's not even a question
that the defense will be you hope the defense will
be healthy and that it's going to look completely different
this year. I think it's a little more continuity when
we're talking about the coordinators the Lions lost for the

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defense versus the offense, because it was a higher from
within for they promoted I believe their dB, one of
their one of their position coaches up to the defensive coordinator.
I still think they're the number two team in the NFC,
but I think a part of that is also I'm
not sure otherwise, who's really going to challenge them. I'm

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seeing once again a lot of love being given out
for Brian Flores and his defense with Minnesota, but I
don't know what we're going to really see out of
JJ McCarthy. I am not high on JJ mccarte.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
I know you are not.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
I I and and like looking across the the NFC West,
like the two teams that I would like to say
out of the NFC West, like, look, the forty nine
ers have question marks and the rams are going to
rely on Matthew Stafford's healthy health problems. I think it's
not going to hold out for the year. He'll be
ready for the year. It's it's is what always happens

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with with the matt.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Do you start having a disc problem?

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Absolutely yeah, but he's had that for like nearly his
entire career in some form or another. But I do
think the lions are coming out of the north though,
because like, look, I this is this is what I find.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Can you slow down? Because here here's the thing. And
by the way, I want to say this J Chris
from the get go, he has been a JJ McCarthy.
I won't even say doughtter hater, hater.

Speaker 10 (01:30:55):
He I think he's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Extremely strong handoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
All right, wow, dude, I'm not even going back and
forth with him about JJ McCarthy. Let's just let the
year play out. I just don't want to hear no
one and what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Victory lapping doesn't let me ask let me ask you this.
If this is what we're gonna do, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
I just don't think the quarterback matters in the Kevin
O'Connell system. So like he can look fine, that's fine,
strong JJ McCarty, you've got justin strong hand.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
If you can't get the ball to JJ, it does matter.
If you don't get JJ in the game. Then to
that Minnesota off, Sam Donald got Justin Jefferson in the game.
Sam Donald, Well, okay, what's said. There was a time
when Sam Donald was being hyped up is going to
be a future superstar in the NFL until he landed
in a Jets uniform. Yeah, and he had other stops

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before that too, and then somehow line up sitting on
the bench, you know, on San frances.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
And Kevin O'Connell's system, and then just is like suddenly
everyone's guns.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
At a fair resume. Finally showed up with a decent
team and look at the area at until the.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
Yonded decent with what the weapons he had with and
like every other quarterback, that's like we were talking about
the pastronaut the year prior. Kevin O'Connell is just very
good at making mediocre quarterbacks look incredibly fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Do we say that the same thing about Jared Golf
Because there's a reason why the Rams traded him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Yeah, the bye bye bye.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
Mcveigh's own admission he just wished things had gone better.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Well, I think that was just he was blamed. He blamed,
He blamed Goff that he was holding back the offense.
Think about it, and he said he was wrong. I
don't remember a single Lions fan cheering the fact that
Jared Goff was going to be putting out the limbs
in the way when he got traded.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
There city of Detroit did not light himself up. But
you are throwing to, in my opinion, a top five
or six receiver in football. They've drafted very well. In
the offensive side of the ball. You have a Jamiir Gabbs,
now you have you have a Sam Laporta, the all
everything tied in out of Iowa like they have weapons
around they have weapons around him. And the offensive coordinator

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who got the Chicago job, Ben Johnson, who was sought
after by many teams for the last two years as
a head coaching position. I mean I could throw all
of that and say, well, you know, you plugged somebody
into Ben Johnson's offense and bam, here we go. Because
Jared Golf, like I said, there was a team that
once looked at him and said thank you, but we're
moving on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
And the only thing they were excited about in the
Traders that gotten a number one pick. The Rams gave
up golf and a one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
And a one so to get I mean, I just
feel like we can say that about I try to
stay away when we can say that about a lot
of people. Ian asked yesterday about if you took Josh
Allen and put him in Baltimore, right, and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
We bring up Ben Johnson because a lot of the
quotes about Ben Johnson is how much he actually learned
from Jared Goff himself. Like those two had an incredible
working relationship between the two of them that I think.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
We're going really really really went.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
It was two ways, Like, look, the Lions are gonna
have are starting a whole new offensive coordinator. And I mean,
if we're taking anything from the time with with his
name is escaping me already. But he used to be
with the Jets, Like it might be more vertical. That
puts a lot more pressure on Jared Goff. But like, look,
I've seen Jared Goff correctly call a lot of coverages

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and just you know, audible wherever he needs to like
he runs an offensive extract.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
He's been playing ten years in this league. He should
have learned something, all right, Save it because coming up
on the other side, we got a lot of ground
to catch up on. It's time for yes, the legendary
per Fet picks. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin,
PJ Husky with you here Fox Sports Sunday or in

(01:34:33):
the Fox Sports Radio studios, and yes, it is that
time here we are precisely profitable over under a half
a flagrant gentleman. Are your Perfet picks?

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
Hmm, Now it's time to get into this. So my
math is a little imprecise here, but we do have
to update you. Guys split last week, so you both
had over on the Terry mclaurran con track days.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
We were trying to figure out Mookie Betts is over
under on batting average for the last week three hundred.
I think he came in at something like two eighty.
He was cold for a bit and then he started
to finally catch on fire. Yeah back end, but just
not enough to catch up at the pace. So that
was a point I believe to VJ, who took the
under and then a point goes to Steve and VJ

(01:35:25):
very very shade Sanders is your guy. You took under
at sixty and a half completion percentage and he just
barely hit sixty point eight percent.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Yes she did. Ye Can I set a line?

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
Or can I?

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Can I set a line?

Speaker 9 (01:35:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Well that was right on the number.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
It was a tough call, but uh yeah, it wasn't
just the Boer percentage. I mean the touchdown pass where
he threaded it through several players.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
The guy can throw the ball a great against against
Carolina backups. Let's see what happens. Okay, Okay, I'm not
even being on that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
It's just yeah, you are when you say it like that,
stop it. Yes you are the bodies out there to
stay quiet, man, But no when you oh, you get
the backups. But just make sure we say that about
everybody when he gets to the season.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Sure when you watch him throw speaking to a lot
of and get to the receiver, that's that's just an
old game. Like speaking of the Lions.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
When I was covering the Lions, I'd always deal with
fans who'd get piped up against about a Lion's receiver
who'd bowl out in preseason and then it would be
Crickets in the regular season. This is an old game.
It's one I've I've always played in. Speaking of old
games and hype for that preseason, we got a New
York versus New York showdown in the preseason and talk
about some hype. Everyone was very excited after after a

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whole half of Jackson Dart, Jackson throw the football again,
just just unions be the guy. This guy's got velocity.
I saw him at USC I mean, and Lane Kiffn
knows how to run an offense at Ole Miss. Maybe
I should think Jackson Darcy, I know he can. He's
got a stronger arm than Russell Wilson has.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
That's so we have that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
And we have Justin Fields who did play in the
first preseason game only for like a series or so,
so we're kind of looking for more, but looking and
taling everything together. I'm going to set the line Jackson
Dart plus Justin Fields combined yards for the for the
This isn't the Subway series.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
What do we call it? What day of the week
is this is on a Saturday? Next Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
This is gonna be next Saturday. Giants and Jets justin
Darts excuse me, justin Fields and Jackson Dart combined air yards,
combined yards, throwing passing yards. I can speak over under
two hundred and a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Half two and a half combined yards for Dart and Fields. Yes,
next Saturday, you can expect to see a lot of dart. Well,
this is the question. I'll go first. If you want

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VJ on this one, what's all I am going to
take the I was really gonna jump on this one.
Now all of a sudden, I'm having second thoughts because
I'm trying to think, are they gonna show other guys
out there? I mean, the Giants had all four of
their quarterbacks actually see action in this first game, and

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Dart still had some pretty good numbers, so they might
have seen as much as they need to see. I
am actually gonna take the under under two hundred going
on two and a half DJ, We're gonna go into
two hundred two.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
I think the Jets are probably gonna I think they
they gotta look at their guy. They'll have another joint
practice this week that not at the preseasons cut. We
are starting to see more starters in the first preseason game.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Yeah, more than I thought we and.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Then we're seeing more backups, and because the second inner
team scrimmage leading up to that second preseason game is
probably a little more intense and they work a little
more in and that's why they want to get a
more I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
I guess the question like from the Giants standpoint right.
I mean, but do you really need to see anything
with Russell Wilson? He need anything with Jameis Winson.

Speaker 9 (01:39:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
I think Jackson Dart starts, you don't even need I
think he starts the next game for the Giants, rust
that game, But I don't think justin Phil starts the
second game.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
That's the guy that I have a question. It's feels
gonna throw for seventy eighty yards. I'll take the under,
all right, So that's a wash under all right, Well
we'll work on another one in there.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
But hey, so the other big storyline we had was
that seventy yarder, Yes from cam Little, Cam Little. I
actually have a small problem with this. I believe the
longer reaching field goal kicks are in the macro bad
thing for the NFL. I don't want to enable cowardly coaches.

(01:39:50):
Could you imagine someone like Kirk Ferentz, who is who
is allergic to marching down the field with Iowa suddenly
being like, oh, you're telling me I can kick a
field goal and get points without actually setting foot in
enemy territory. That's like if Steph Curry could like reasonably
hit threes from behind the half court.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Well, Jamie, they have done everything humanly possible to make
it tougher for these kickers. You move the extra point back, which,
by the way, was good. We finally got some missed
extra points. But it seems like they've been compensated for that.
All of a sudden, it's time to narrow the field.
They've narrowed the go posts, they've already you want to
raise the go I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
I want a law where you have to at least
be in enemy territory before you can kick a field goal.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
That's just me. They were even they were at the logo.
There wasn't even a logo painted on the field, but
they were at the logo. I was watching film of
a nineteen forty six game, all right, because I do
these things. Army, Navy, excuse me, Army, Notre Dame. It
was a battle of the century. It ended in a

(01:40:59):
scoreless time because Frank Lahy, the Notre Dame coach, did
not kick it out for the fifteen yard field goal,
because he said it was cowardly, cowardly to kick a
field goal, and he went for it on fourth down,
an army stopped him. Coward that's right, that's right, he goes,
We don't kick the flip sid on the flip side

(01:41:20):
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
You know, you know how Nick Saban lost the twenty
twelve Iron Bowl by trying to kick a field goal.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Of what happened after that, the Return of the Century
one hundred and seven yards.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Yeah, I'm not going to keep him off the field
night anyway. So the pick is that I want from
you guys preseason Week two kicks? Are we going to
see one over or under sixty two and a half yards?

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Will there be a field goal of sixty two and
a half yards week two of the preseason. Now that
the guy hits a seventy yards sixty two and a
half under, I don't think we'll see it. I don't
think there's just that many attempts.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
These teams are going forward a lot on fourth down.
You're also but if I mean you want to try
out some of your kickers too. And if you you
you know, mostly thirty twenty nine teams know who their
kicker is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
You'll have to try on. How about this, twenty nine
teams at this point they know who their kickers. How
about this instead of a made field goal, are you
saying a field goal attempt? Field goal attempt?

Speaker 9 (01:42:24):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Oh well yeah, because teams will I mean you think
about maybe in the games. Not during the game though,
because every everything I'm seeing the team, even at midfield,
teams are good. They're not even punting. Teams are going
for The records don't mean nothing. The work you get
mean something in preseason. The record in the score does it.
It's the work you're getting, right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
These I haven't had how many punts have you guys
seen in these preseason game? Seriously?

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Teams are going forward on their own forty well and
again how many need work?

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
How many field goal attempts do you see in the preseason?

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
So in a timph of over sixty two.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
In a tempt, I'll say yeah, because there's gonna be
week two.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
I mean again, it's shive be one of these games
that come down to this strive. Oh so we saw
it with the Raidershawk game that up tie. They don't
have overtime, No, you don't need overtime in preseas. Yeah,
but the end of the half. Okay, I'll go the
other way though. I'm all making interesting for us. So
you say over sixty two and a half for a minute,
I'll go in there. There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
All right, Now, let's move on to our NFL futures,
because boy, we guys still got a lot on here.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
We've can talk a lot of ragings. Can we pause
for a second. Yeah, we're gonna pause for a second
because it is time to find out what is trending?
All right, now, I would mind see.

Speaker 6 (01:43:38):
Oh you guys could have kept going.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
You're so on time.

Speaker 8 (01:43:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
You're first of all, you're always front and center. Say
everything else is just on the periphery, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
Can you tell Sean that? Can you tell Sean to
feel the same way?

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:43:54):
All right, We've got some preseason action fellas Seats and
Chargers underway at SOFI Stadium. It's still the first quarter.
Their scoreless so far. Spencer Rattler out there for New Orleans.

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
He is three or four for forty yards.

Speaker 7 (01:44:08):
Taylor Heineke zero four for LA zero yards, so everything
zero across the board four minutes to go.

Speaker 6 (01:44:14):
In this preseason game.

Speaker 10 (01:44:15):
The Dolphins and the Bears ended in a tie in
their preseason game, Tyson beij in for Chicago thirteen of nineteen,
one hundred and three yards, one touchdown, one interception, but
tied at twenty four.

Speaker 6 (01:44:27):
Is how that game ended between the Dolphins and the Bears.
We'll check in on Baseball Show.

Speaker 8 (01:44:32):
Hey Otania has homered, and so has Freddy Freeman. So
the Dodgers are up on the Blue Jays two to one,
bottom of the first inning. In LA, the Mariners are
on the scoreboard first. They are up on the Rays
to zero bottom of the first In Seattle, Diamondbacks on
top of the Rockies three zero. Top of this second inning,
the Mets are still edging the Brewers.

Speaker 6 (01:44:50):
The Mets are up by a lot of runs. The
Brewers have cut that deficit to one six.

Speaker 8 (01:44:53):
Five bottom of the eighth, inning And Milwaukee phillies have
taken the lead from The rangers three to two top
of the seventh. Inning there The reds are edging The
pirates nine to. Eight after eight, innings some games have
officially wrapped up like The tigers defeated The angels nine to.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
Five braves came back to defeat The marlins seven to.

Speaker 8 (01:45:09):
One all astros so far against the or not so
far it's over All astros against The yankees and The
bronx seven to one the final score, there and The
twins walked it off against The royals five to three
and eleven innings at The FedEx Saint Jude, CHAMPIONSHIP Jj
spawn And Scottie scheffler And Tommy fleetwood are currently in
the lead at fourteen under par. Overall spawn And scheffler

(01:45:32):
through thirteen, Holes fleetwood is through twelve holes, holes And
Justin rose is now two shots back of the top
of the leader. Board are back to, you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
GUYS i had to make a prediction on who was
going to win The FedEx and who did you? PREDICT
i PICKED Jj, SPAWN i. DID i don't know. WHY i,
mean obviously he's a shot Behind, Scheffer's like you, know
everyone out On cheffler will.

Speaker 9 (01:45:53):
WIN i.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
MIGHT i Think spawn's got one more in it, NOW bj, Again,
ena you never you never really GET jj spa his
full credit for winning THAT Us.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
Open, NOW i thought the rest of the crowd just
kind of spit up on themselves and came back to.
Him and he was the, guy, rightfully so who made
the long putt on seventeen eighteen when he needed. It,
yes the approach shot on sixteen was. Beautiful the approach
shot on seventeen and eighteen were. Beautiful to put on
eighteen was just dope because he lands to the left
on that. GREEN i know he wanted it about ten to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Fift don't you give me. Credit he went out and won.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
IT i, LISTEN i didn't see everybody on it backed up,
exactly all. Right But i'm just saying THE Us OPEN
i liked, this you, KNOW i don't see a guy
win it and win.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
It you, know, well the other majors are won, Too
chefder won By rory, mcory and then you HAVE Jj.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
Spah yeah that's, Fine, Listen i'm not LIKE i, Said
i'm gonna stick to my. GUNS i thought the rest
of the field everybody played like crap On. Sunday they
did anybody tight people all that, pressure but just absolutely
ate them. Up and then he's the guy that just
made the puss down a stress. Up he won, it
but he didn't go out and win it once.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
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the per fet. Picks all.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
Right i'll save you guys from any PICKS i might
try to have you make On Little league. Here we'll
save that until it gets a little deeper into the
tournament because we're in those dog. Days but we are
going to and we've been talking about them quite a
bit on this show the last couple of. Days let's
kick off OUR nfl Over under series here with The Baltimore,
ravens who befitting the, pedigree talent and all things of that.

(01:47:43):
Nature vegas set their line at eleven and a half
wins over.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
All, right so again that you have to look at the.
Division the problem with The ravens is is that they
can't beat The steelers for whatever, reason even if they're
a better. Team The. Bengals bengals are a big. Question
are The bengals going to be. Better i'm gonna bank
they are going to be. Better, ACTUALLY i see The
ravens finishing probably eleven and, Six So i'm gonna go

(01:48:15):
under for The ravens eleven we're going. Under going? Under
what a fascinating.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
DIVISION i keep waiting, for like the script to flip
when it comes to who's gonna come out of?

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
There but When Shador sanders leads them to a thirteen
and four, Season you're gonna be, like what the hell happened?

Speaker 4 (01:48:32):
Here shaye will be bouncing off the. Walls if that, Happens,
shay we're talking about a thirteen and Four cleveland brown?

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Season, yeah sure you. Can probably he.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
Would he would roll out the banners we. Have we'd
be hanging a banner here in the studio if that.
Happens go, Ahead, JAE i don't even want to think about.
IT i know it's not even, possible giving.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
A browns fan, Hope i'm anything is possible when You
Joe flacco get off a couch and lead you to the.
Playoffs hey, man, anything snack wrap is? Back?

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
Yeah you remember that thing where he was like chilling
out for. McDonald's so, anyway we're going under for. You
then all, right let's do another team we've been talking
about quite a, bit and that is The Los Angeles.
Rams vegas has their line at nine and a half wins,
again a very interesting division considering, that like it's been

(01:49:24):
the forty nine ers for a long, time The rams
got into the playoffs and made their way to THE
nfc Champ it's a. Championship stafford's got a dis problem
in his, back but all the talents.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
There you want to love The. Rams nine and a?
Half where are we, going? Gentlemen? Hmm grabbed us for, First,
dade do you want me to go? First? Up, yeah
grabbed us from? First all, Right so nine and a
Half i'm gonna go. OVER i think The rams win
that division easy this. Year i'm not sold On, Seattle
i'm not sold On, arizona AND i don't think there's

(01:49:57):
gonna be a big bounce back for the forty nine.
Ers so, yeah over nine and a half for The.
RANGE i just think this division is worse than people won't.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
Admit I'm i'm out on The cardinals for, sure and
that's Not Kyler murray's. Fault that franchise just hasn't done
a lot to help. HIM i expected a whole lot
more From Mazaradi marv last, year AS i picked him
in the preseason to beat MY Nfc Offensive rookie of The.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Year he didn't do.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
That then the guy like me goes to the Schedule
texas at home at The. Titans but then it gets
kind of tough with The. Eagles there's a coach, game But, Niners, Ravens,
Jacks saints And niners. Again that takes us up To november.
NINTH i could see them by that point at five and.
THREE i just think That Matthew stafford's. Back that's the

(01:50:49):
question Mark Jared verse with an injury already on the
defensive side of the. Ball last, year they were banged
up going into the. Year they didn't Get cooper cut
back until after they start of the. SEASON i do
Think Davante adams is gonna be a huge lift on
the offense because now you can't just lock up and
double poop and who but.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Who's gonna be throwing them the?

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Ball as my, COURSE i don't like back injuries with
older guys at thirty eight years, old whether it's been
an issue, before, Yeah becau it's been an issue, before
and it's coming up. Again it's probably when you don't
want to see it again at age thirty. Eight i'm
just not sure he just you, know he could last the.
YEARS i don't have any faith In seattle With Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
Darnold, well you Have Jimmy garoppolo as your backup. Quarterback
he's A Super bowl, Quarterback Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
Man listen covering The rams last, YEAR i never saw
a player get showered and changed and dress out of
a locker room week after week faster Than it's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Funny Because sean, McVay every time they ask him About Jimmy,
garoppolo he says he's a starting quarterback or like could
have a starting quarterback's, Back.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
LIKE i, SAID i saw with my own eyes last.
Year Every i'm, talking but by the time the media
got to the locker, room that man had A Louis bauton,
bag some good smell of cologne and clothes and with
walking past. Us why everybody else is still in their playing.
Pants that man was changing out of their week after
week faster than. Anybody i'm not sure how much he's
even locked in to begin. HERE i think these is

(01:52:11):
his last days in the summer a. Paycheck give, me
give me the over only BECAUSE i ten and seven
wins this vet AND i think they could be a
tenant seven.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
FOOTBALL i tied to we're gonna go under after all of.
That you're gonna stay with the over on this one,
because by the, Way Jimmy garoppolo's all time record is
a starting quarterback is forty three and twenty. One don't
care forty three and.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
TWENTY i appreciate a man who understands when he's off the. Clock,
yeah last, one and we'll stay in THE Nfc. West
i'll see The cardinals for another. Day but let's knock
off The seahawks because here's my. Question are we gonna
get to the season there's going to be quarterback. Controversy
Is Jalen milroe going to try to stage another coup
and maybe Have Sam darnold throw it? OUT i don't,

(01:52:53):
know But vegas is putting The seahawks win total at
eight and a.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Half and to be, honest, well first of, ALL i
Like Jalen milroe and he had a pretty good year last,
year even if it was a down year For. Alabama but,
NO i mean they there's a reason they Signed Sam.
Darnold so right, now Is darnald gonna come anywhere near
the success that he had In? Minnesota, no we know.

(01:53:19):
That is it going to be a complete flame? OUT
i don't think that's going to happen. Either, again look
at the. Division the big question in THE Nfc west
is the forty Nine, ers and they we're all in.
Agreement If christian McCaffrey can't stay on the, field the
forty nine ers are not going to be a postseason.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
TEAM i will throw this in here From Red zone
radio Producer Bo, benson, who after talking to, him firmly
believes The seahawks might be one of the worst teams
in THE nfl that's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Here i'm not leaning on. That they have some weapons, there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
Guys so you gotta think about A smith And jigbook
and they still Have Valdez, scanley who who's A who's a?

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Burner the question mark for me is Past Sam, darnald
the two running.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Backs what do we get From Kenneth walker and From
Zach Sharvionnet that's Where i'm looking at this.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
TEAM i like both those, guys But zach on the,
field he Will zach's fest stay on the. Field my
only thing About Zach sharvion they.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Played for Your, brewers but after leaving My, wolverines BUT
i saw. HIM i covered him at West. Lake he
played With Kevon thibadeau Or Oaks. Christian he those two
guys played together high school, football gas at. All So
i've been seeing this kid since he was seventeen years.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Old he's a, man he's got it. All in high
school he was six two two twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
Five like he was Legit. La he's over got. People
but he can't do it on the. End you can't
just run over guys in THE, nfl and that's that's the.
Problem he has got to learn. Patience And Kenneth walker
is the one that's got to stay on the. Field
he's been deemed up his first two. Years so there's
my question mark With seattle's because if they don't have

(01:54:51):
either one of these running backs in trench and locked,
in they're gonna struggle to move to football Because Sam
darnold just can't throw it To smith And.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
Jigbo who's who's the.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
WELL i think it's CERTIFIED nfl are W r, One
BUT i still like the under. HERE i still like
THE i have to take the under, here one of
these things to be bad from you. Here the number
is right on the.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Money LIKE i, said we talk about this all the
what's the difference between ten and seven and seven and
ten and, Eleven so we're really talking about the difference
between nine and eight and eight and. Nine so you're,
saying you, know over unders eight and a half's like
we got to hit the, Brink, Seattle i'll go over
groovy and that's the perfect. PICK i go it all.

(01:55:33):
Right and on the other, side we're gonna talk about
a week ahead and what do you expect by the
time we're back here next. Week this Is Fox Sports.
Sunday there are very few perfect. Songs this is one of.
Them it's my birthday, month my, birthday DID i? Mean
it's JUST i, mean there are just certain songs that
are just when you WHEN i look at think about
a perfect, song it's a SONG i can hear over

(01:55:56):
and over and over and over and over and over
and over, again AND i get excited every TIME i hear.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
It, yeah but that's Earth Winding, fire Period LIKE i
can listen, numbers win And, Fire Marley, Prince Michael, jackson
those are ARTISTS i Can, METALLICA i can listen to
them forever and ever and ever and never get tired
of them until the DAY i.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Die the ayre just timeless. Songs once, Again here, too
My Fox Sports. Sunday here we're in The Fox Sports radio.
Studios by the, way Mon sie getting ready for her
show coming up here With Carrie rhodes doing a great
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here great listen on the way, Home Christopher fett on

(01:56:37):
the board and of course providing all the prefet pics.
TODAY i gotta.

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
Throw hall And oates in there. Too it is just timeless.
Stuff they're a.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
Smile, yeah out of, gold out of.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
TOUCH i will do some karaoke CHANCE i Get, Yeah i'm.
Done out of touch of. Karaoke killed? It did you know?
THAT i actually in nineteen seventy, seven WHEN i was
going to u C, la my girlfriend AND i she
was the music editor of The Daily. BRUIN i went
to See Parliament funkadelic at THE La Sports. Arena you,

(01:57:09):
go can you imagine me in that? Scene can you
imagine what it was in that scene at The Sports
arena in nineteen seventy. Seven the gear was off the.
Charts it was the first Concert i've ever been to
where no one sat for even a. Second oh that
Was Earth wind And Fire.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
CHICAGO i wouldn't Say Earth wind And Fire.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
Chicago no one sat. DOWN i mean from the opening
Higher blackbirds were the opening, act and Then Parliament funkadelic
was the, headline and then of, Course, shay he's a
Big Parliament funkadelic. Fan no idea what you're talking? ABOUT i,
KNOW i was about to say that. News IF i
say the Name George clinton doesn't Meaning, CLINTON i know
that's a. Woman, yeah, no, no this Is George. Clinton

(01:57:50):
this is p funk baby. Fun, anyway say doing a
great job as, always he, says even though it a
tremendous amount of work that he faces every Single, sunday
put the show.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
Together we appreciate, it all the, efforts new gray, hair every.
Show Say, shay what Does Bootsy collins? Mean do you
WHEN i say That Bootsy Collins Bootsy?

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
Collins no? Idea, yeah it's. Okay why should he? KNOW
i don't he. DOESN'T i knew at his. AGE i
told you the other DAY i CAME i was at
The dodgers game On, friday and this guy walked up
to me and he, said, oh, Man i've been listening
to you SINCE i was a, Kid and of Course i'm,
thinking all, right since it's a. Kid and it turned

(01:58:32):
out it was only like twenty years, ago and it's
like instead of like thirty five years, old that type of,
Thing i'm, LIKE i got the generations now of over the.
Years it's our.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Responsibility yesterday we talked about how you pass on your
sports absolute knowledge and love to your. Children like you
guys when you have, kids your kids are going to
frame how they watch in view sports by how they
saw dad watch in view. Sports so it's our responsible
ability to put people on and put the younger generation.

(01:59:03):
On my stepdad did a great job teaching me About
Jim brown And Muhammad.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Ali And George forman And CHRIS brussorda.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
NINE i filled it on For Rod park on THE
och couple one time here we Had George foreman and
on a callin. Interviewing we had him on for twenty
minutes and HERE i am talking to one of the
greatest heavyweights of all.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
Time you know what the first THING i did when
that second was.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
OVER i text my stepdad AND i, said thank you
for teaching me About George, forman because by the TIME
i was at the age Of George, forman he was
coming back again as a, fighter knocking Out Michael. Moore,
sorry as in The, grill that's The George FOREMAN i.
KNEW i didn't know About. ZAIRE i didn't know about the.
RUMBLING i knew THOUGH i know it, happened BUT i
didn't mean about. IT i don't tell you knowing about,

(01:59:46):
it you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
KNOW i MEAN i was thirteen for the First Olie fraser, fight,
okay and sides were, Drawn, yeah, absolute, Absolutely but The
foreman fight in the context of the, time AND i
was in high school when that fight came, down we
Say ali had no. Chance former was. Destroyed he knocked
Out Ken norton in the second round After norton had Beaten,

(02:00:07):
ALI i mean knocked him. OUT i mean it was
just like this is going to be a. Massacre Now
i'm not old enough to remember the first list In alive,
fight but it was the same idea going, in Like
listen's going to kill these people thought they were going to,
chill and that was what they, thought and and, uh
you Know George. Foreman by the, way you mentioned The
Michael moore. Fight we had a viewing party for that,
fight AND i was seated next to the Lake Great Ken,

(02:00:29):
norton And norton was sitting there next to, me and
he was, saying If Michael moore continues to stand directly
in front Of, george he is going to get knocked out.
Out what's he?

Speaker 3 (02:00:39):
Doing George forman used to real open heavy, bags ladies and.
Gentlemen that's how hard he used to. Hit he used
to rip open heavy. Bags god bless.

Speaker 2 (02:00:46):
Everybody all, right get, Ready monsie and carry will take you.
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