Steve Hartman & Veejay Huskey Talk NFL Preseason, Michigan Cheating Scandal, NFL QBs, And So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, living the dream
once again here on a fully loaded sports Sunday. This
is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are here in the
Fox Sports Radio Studios VJ. We're inching our way to
the start of this NFL season. Week two of the
preseason next week will be the final week of the preseason.

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Also Week zero of college football next weekend. Then we
got that bye week for the NFL, a full slight
of Week one of college football, and then we're just
fully loaded for football. All right, So, as you are
inching closer to the start of this huge football season,
give us a sense right now, where's your mindset? Where
are you? I know you're training hard for it, you're

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ready to roll right now. How you're feeling on this Sunday?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
First of all, I feel unbelievable, man, I feel magical.
I feel great. I feel bless How are you, buddy?
I missed you all we how you been man?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I have been busy. I've been very busy. I was
back in Phoenix a little bit and I've been doing television,
a lot of TV. I haven't done this for you
for TV. You know a lot of TV. I'll tell you.
One thing I want to start off with because you know,
again doing La TV, we were all over this Matthew
Stafford story, right, So I mean it's like, you know,

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we've been we've been talking about this when when you're
talking about we're not talking about back issues, we're talking
about disc issues. So we've been hearing this for a
couple of weeks and it's been really interesting because you
had Sean McVay at the beginning of training camp refer
to Jimmy Garoppolo as a starting quarterback, like he's a

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starting quarterback, and they're like, well, he was a starting quarterback,
but he's not now because Matthew Stafford is your starting quarterback.
But he insisted on using that language. You know, Jimmy
Garoppolo is a starting quarterback. But then yesterday the deal
was is that Matthew Stafford all week, we've been promoting
Matthew Stafford is going to have a workout prior to

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their preseason game against the Chargers. And then when the
media went to Sean McVay and others in the organization,
how did it go? They said, well, we'll address that
on Monday. Meanwhile, if Jimmy Garoppolo's you're starting quarterback. I
guess that's why Stets and Bennett played the entire game yesterday,
throwing forward three hundred yards, leading the Rams to a

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comfort behind victory. So when your third string quarterback is
playing the entire game to protect your backup quarterback, it
would seem that there are major issues involving Matthew Stafford's
disc problem.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, two weeks ago, you and myself mainly were all
over this. I'd said, a back does not heal throughout
the season. Quads, hamstring, calves, groins, next, those things do
not heal. Ris all right, finger surgery, we' you know
there's a Ord had finger surgery, but he's gonna be

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ready to go.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Risk you know, sprain ankle.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
You might be out two three weeks and then you know,
cinema the rest of preseason, but it'll heal enough for
you to be able to go, as long as doesn't
take another bad twists tape, you know, properly, and you
get all the elect you know, electrical rehab on all
the stuff they have for the players, that you're fine.
But when you talk about a back and those other
body parts that I named, those do not heal throughout
the season. A disc that's surgical, that's nerve, that's that's

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a that's going to be an issue. I said it
two weeks ago that when I heard it was a disc,
I said, Okay, this is gonna be a problem. And
then it makes you start to rethink how you look
at the NFC West because a lot of people think
the Rams have tons of talent. Don't tell me Blake
Korm doesn't have a chip on his shoulder the way
that young man has been carrying.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
A ball and hitting a hole.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
And last year I had a chance to talk to
him up close and personal a few times after games,
and you could tell he was he was trying to
figure out the NFL, like you gotta figure it out.
Sometimes everybody can't come in and be Joe Burrow. Everybody
can't come in and be Peyton Manning. Everybody can't come
in and be Dan Marino. Some people it takes a
season or two to get used to the game. And
they're gonna need him because now Matthew Stafford is facing

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this disc injury. And like you said, all week long,
he was gonna practice, He's gonna go through. You know,
Rev's gonna do some seven to one. Seven is gonna
he could be ready and then we'll address it on Monday.
Tells me all I need to know. I think there's
more test coming. I think there's more time outcoming, and
I don't think he is ready to play football. And
at a man at his age who already has his championship.

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In my opinion, he is a Hall of Famer. He
is top ten in passing yards, top ten and completions
and top ten and touchdowns all time. And my book,
at this point in my career, I would kind of
ease myself onto this because you don't want this to
be the end of your career. And we've seen back
in next do that to older guys.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right, you said surgical. That's what I'm thinking as well.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's a disc.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
If it's a disc, you have to have surgery on that,
whether you want to try to re we have right
from that kind of surgery in your late thirties, approaching forty,
and try it again when you've already put together this
kind of resume. Uh. And by the way, I'm a
now that I've had a chance over the last few years,
because remember this, after the Super Bowl win, the next

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year was a complete bottom out for the Rams. It
looked like it was over over over over, spit all
they had. And yet the last two years Stafford has
gotten the Rams into the playoffs after slow starts. I
am more of a Matthew Stafford fan now than I
was when he was. You know, let's face it, he
piled up a lot of garbage time numbers for Detroit.

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When you're down, when you're trail, it's no, no, no, you
know what I'm talking about. When you're trailing in every
game and you're having to throw the ball in the
second half because you're down, you're gonna pile up.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Number it's you're good, you are. We've seen quarterbacks have
to try to do that.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
You have to do this, that's argue. But here's one
of the most deceiving stats I see. You know, your
fourth quarter come back and Stafford has a number. First
of all, how many fourth quarter comebacks did Tom Brady
have to make? In other words, my question is how
many opportunities do you have to make a fourth quarter comeback?

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And Matthew Stafford almost every game they're trailing in the
fourth quarter, So a few of those games you're actually
going to come back and win. But percentage wise, when
you're in a situation to actually engineer a fourth quarter comeback,
it should be sort of like you know, catches versus targets,
No matter how many opportunities did, you have to actually
be in a situation to engineer a fourth quarter comeback.

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So anyway, like I said, I'm a Matthew Stafford fan now,
but this seems to me it's pretty clear on where
we're going. I mean, Stet's been at three. What's the
last time you saw literally a guy play an entire
game and throw it for over a three hundred yards
in a preseason game.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's the point I want to go to next. That
was not by mistake, No it was. That was not
But that's great coaching. But they have to protect a right.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well, they're not gonna take any risk on Jimmy Garoppolo
getting heard. Listen.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Sean McVay is one of the smartest verbal coaches I've
ever covered.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I agree, he.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Knows exactly what to say, how to say it, and
when to say it. And then we'll give you a
reason why he's saying. He covers all the w's when
it comes to being a verbal coach. That you can't
really take something from him and run with it and
make a bad headline or or try to call some
type of personal narrative like you don't see that with him.
The reason why he is calling Jimmy Garoppolo's starting quarterback,

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which he's not. He was a starting quarterback, he is
no longer a starting quarterback, or he would be somewhere
starting as a quarterback. But I would play Stinton Bennett
because if Stinton Bennett does start slow, then you have
this starting quarterback to go to. If Jimmy Garoppolo goes

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out there and wets his pants and they start one
and four, all the pressure then goes to this young
kid who is a back to back national champion in
college football. Listen watching, I don't care who you're playing against.
He's putting the ball on target, he's throwing the ball round,
he's getting back, he looks comfortable, he's reading the defense,
he's slinging it, he's letting it go. Sean McVay knows

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what he's doing with quarterbacks. Stintson Benn is gonna be
a starting quarterback at some point for somebody in the NFL.
May I'd be with the Rams but I think it
should be with the Rams. You talk about protecting Jimmy Garoppolo,
what better way to protect him than to just start
Stintson ben Well, I.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Don't have a promise starring. When you think about Stetson
Bennett in his miraculous college story is a walk on
that eventually led Georgia to back to back national championships,
and then sort of the hiccups start to his NFL
career where he just sort of disappeared for personal reasons
or something's going on in the world. Is sets and

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be off and now all of a sudden, we see
what he's doing right now, and yeah it's a preseason. Yeah,
look like, say he's making throws right now? Can he
lead that team? Because I still believe that's the best
team in the NFC West. Yes, I'm not sure. I
think we both agree on the forty nine ers. The
forty nine ers are only in the conversation with a
healthy Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
But they have so many injuries. They had twenty five
guys sent out of that joint practice the other day.
They are they were banged up and back the week six.
I know they were six and eleven last year.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm with you. I mean, I'm with you, you know,
And so I can't take the forty nine ers as
a serious threat until I know the McCaffrey. And again,
once you start having injuries, the idea they I mean,
we've seen it. It's not like it's unprecedented. But that's
what they're going to have to need. If they're going
to have brock Purdy put up numbers like he did
a couple of years ago, he has to have McCaffrey

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in that backfield. And you know, Seattle and Arizona are
just middling teams. I mean, they're they're teams that could
you know, they could go seven to ten, they could
go eight and a eight and.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Nine, four and thirteen. Also, they could could go four
and thirteen. Guys like I don't know if the Rams
are in a great position to win that division.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
And again again when you when we talk about it's
just so interesting because of the relationship between Sean McVay
and Kyle Shanahan, they're very close. And to see what
Kyle Shanahan did with Brock Purty, you don't think McVeigh
wants to prove well, if you could do that with
brock Purty. I could do that with Stetsan Bennett.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, he's got the weapons here. And with the Rams,
now you got Pooking the coup like I said, you got,
you got Davante Adams. Now you got to tighten like
they they their defense is going to be really good
this year too, that they're going to be in every game.
The Rams aren't getting blown out of one single game
this year.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
The longest blake korm and it's just I mean, hey, look.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Hey, look, hey, look, hey, listen, I'm telling you, I'm
just watching the kid running. I watched them and covered
them last year, and even as a fan, I could
see that he was hesitating. Zach Sharbon, they did the
same thing when he got to the NFL. He didn't
hit the hole. In the NFL, the holes close fast,
and then when they close you have to have the
agility and and lateral balance to make jump cuts and

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then punch it into fourth.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
You like to say he's a Michigan guy, he's brewing.
That's where he had to start. Power look pretty good
for us. You can see it though, right. You can
see he leaned out a little bit big bad. Listen.
He could run over people but you can't necessarily do.
You could run over people in your physical specimen like
that on the collegiate level. Doesn't necessarily work that way
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But he's big enough that he can do it in
the NFL for a good half of the season. Then
there's gonna be plays. You're just gonna have to know
when to play is over. I understand wanting to lean forward,
wanting to finish off runs. But when I met the
kid when he was a senior at Oaks Christian playing
with Keevon Thibodau. When I got a chance to talk
to him after the game and walked up to him,
I was blown away by how big you. I didn't

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know you from the bleachers in the press box. You
can't really tell it to you're standing next to guy.
He is legit six twenty five and that was and
that was an eighteen years old. So now he's developing
his man NFL football body and watching them the other night, you.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Can see he sees the hole and he hits.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
It and when it's not there, lower your shoulder, made
contact the jump cut. But back to corn, They're gonna
need that from him because if you're gonna go with
either Garoppolo or Bennett, you're gonna need a solid running game.
You mentioned Lafloor, I mean exc you mentioned, well the
floor's tied in that too with Mike McDaniel. But you
mentioned Shanahana McVeigh. But those four guys, remember their run first. Coaches,
everybody thinks they want to air it out with these

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quarterback Mike McDaniel was the run coordinator for the Niners
the year that they led the league in rushing. Like,
they're gonna run the football, So the Rams in McVeigh,
they're gonna lean on this running game. I would go
with Bennett. I know probably some lizen's like, what yes,
why not the kid? Listen, it's a long season. So
they showed last year because their injuries. Remember they were
beat up tremendously last year and started slow, but once

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they started to get guys back, they made a run
ten and seven, won a division, went to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Look, Jimmy Garoppolo has got a very impressive record as
a starting quarterback. Here's one thing that's not impressive. His durability.
Has played one year of sixteen games one one one year.
So uh, and you are thinking of you know, wagering
a little bit on the Rams hold off at least
until tomorrow, because again the RAMS have announced that we're
going to have a little bit more clarification on the

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condition of Matthew Stafford, who's out. I think he's out again.
When when you're being that secretive as they were yesterday, Like,
wait a second, you told us he was going to
work out before the game. How did the workout go? Well,
we'll address that on Mondays.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Could they it's still ir h for like the first
like four to six weeks, right, So they just hold
out on that overnet.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
A definitive answer, all right. Coming up on the other
side was just as served. Was just as served on
the Playton cheating scandal involving the University of Michigan Playton
cheating scandal that has absolutely turned the college football world.
It's here, Clayton cheating scandal. We'll break it down. This

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Speaker 5 (14:08):
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Speaker 1 (14:34):
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up at the top of your screen. Cheeters, cheaters and
cheaters who get away with it. That's what people are
screaming about. What they thought were a what A You're

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gonna find them a little bit? What add another game
to Mores, you know, sitting out as the head coach
in Michigan. Drop the hammer on him. Death penalty, death
penalty to the winning his program in history. You know. Here,
here's the thing, by the way, I did like this
from the NCAA. They said, well, understand this. The reason
that they didn't have games vacated is that when teams

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have games that are vacated, it's because they have an
illegal player on the team, on the roster, in other words,
somebody on the team. This goes back to the Reggie
Bush situation back in the day, where he was ruled
as an invalid player and because he played in games,
any games that he play late in were forfeited. All right,

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that was the original ruling there, and that is not
the case of what we're talking about with Michigan. By
the way, does anybody care about that when when they
talk about.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Vacated Ohio State does vacated, No vacated, there's no such
games were played.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, nca loves to use vacated. They doing with the
college basketball all the time they do with the college football. Well,
these games were vacated. You know, take away that come on,
the games are played and you know, and again ridiculous.
It just has never made any sense to me. And
by the way, the reinstated games. Remember with Joe Pa,

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you know, they took games away from him, and then
later they reinstated games for them. Look with games exactly
the games were played. Okay, so none of that crap.
But I guess, I guess this is what happens. You're
going to be a target, especially when you win a
national championship, as Michigan did a couple of years ago
when they were clearly the best team in the country

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all season along that year, despite the rotation of coaches
they had over the course of the year, I think
they had actually what five different people that they actually
lay claimed to be a coach during the course of
that season. Culture. Culture. But anyway, again when we talk

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about a much bigger subject for me, is just cheating.
You know, we talk about this all the time. What
what actually designates cheating? In other words, if you're trying
to get an edge on your opponent, which is really
what you're trying to do, what you're supposed to do.

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You know, if you're not cheating, you're not trying here
it is And so I have never ever bought into
this idea, and this goes back to ped us for
players or whatever you're trying to do as an individual
as a team to gain an edge, and some people

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get caught and some people get away with it, doesn't
really change it one way or the other for me. Again,
what are we talking about. We're talking about sports. Every
time I hear the word integrity, just get rid of
that word. There's no such thing in integrity. I've said
this about baseball. You're worried about the integrity of the

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sport marred by guys using PD I go, do you
mean the integrity of sport that banned an entire race
of people for sixty years? That's the sport. You're worried
about the integrity of that sport? Come on, I mean
if that's if that was the case, then throw out
all records prior to nineteen forty seven, aster risk on
all all those guys, Baby Asta Aska. You're not going

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to do that, are you?

Speaker 6 (18:55):
So?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean, again, it doesn't about people are like, don't
you're urging people to chieve I'm not encouraging it. What
I'm saying is I don't have a problem with it
because it goes on all the time, all the time,
at every single level, whether it's little league, high school, college, professional,

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it's happening all the time. Sometimes you get away with it,
sometimes you don't. But I mean, I know this is
near and dear toy with the University of Michigan in particular.
But again, this is such a who cares story, and
in no way does it demean or should it demean
what Michigan did in dominating college football two years ago.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Absolutely, And here's the funniest part.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
They did their investigation. They did the investigation and.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Everybody wanted them to do, and their findings were they're
gonna find us like twenty million dollars of playoff revenue,
which is a drop in the bucket when it comes
to the University of me Chigan football.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
That's nothing.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And you know why it only came to that, because
at the end of the day, the NCAA has always
been about money. If we can't punish you, we'll just
take money and put it back in our own pocket.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
There were no illegal players used.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
This was the worst weakest corneius lamest like scandal, possibly
next to probably Terrell prior to those guys with the tattoos.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And I was a Michigan guy.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
And I even said plenty of times when podcasting was
popular back to that a podcast on iHeartRadio, that dude,
I don't care people try to bait me in, Like,
come on, look what the said, dude, he got some
tattoos from somebody that wanted him to sign some memorabilia
because he's the quarterback of the local university. It's not
Southwest Louisiana Cooking School. It's the Ohio State University.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
By the way, Jim Tressel is the current lieutenant governor
of the state of Ohio, will be the next governor
of Ohio.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Exactly, and he had I never ever like balked at
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
The integrity of a guy like Jim Trussell, right, all right, right,
come on out of Youngstown or went into that area.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
This quarterback at Youngstown State was in some stuff like
I know the story. You can move through to Maurice
Clarett like it it's that to me, that's not that
doesn't affect the game.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
When we got the sign stealing, it's not stealing.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And if I can see it, guys like it's the
stupidest thing to me, even in baseball, signs stealing if
I can see you though what I'm not supposed to look.
I'm not supposed to use one of my five senses
and use my eyes. This stuff is just crazy. And
also at the end of the day, when it comes
to the sport of football, Steve, you can know power

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left dive is coming. A lot of teams know when
a certain play is coming. It's my eleven against your eleven?
Can you stop me? Is your fundamentals better than mine?
Do your guys know to stay low? Do your guys
know to wrap up? Do your guys know how to
block and not grab or how to cut?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
It's execution people in football, baseball, basketball, other sports different story.
But in football it is still about execution. And eighty
percent of the time the defense knows what play is coming.
The offense knows already what they want to run. You're
not hiding much on the football field, ladies and gentlemen,

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boys and girls. It's just who's been coached up better,
who's better prepared, who's bigger, stronger, faster, follows their fundamentals
and finishes not to the whistle, to the echo of
the whistle. How I coach my kids? You finished to
the echo of the whistle because the guy that's finished
into the whistle someplace, he's gonna stop early that whistle's
not blown. Clean him out. You don't want to keep playing,

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I'm coach to keep playing. This is one of the
silliest things. And I haven't even said anything about it
on social media. I'm just scrolling.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
He's so many people are so upset at that.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
They wanted Connor Stallions to go to prison and Jim
Harbady be banned from football forever, the biggest cheating scandal ever.
Give me a break, people, give me, how about all
those NFL guys that are in the league, off those teams,
Off those three years where we just beat the You
know what, Ohio State went the street three straight college
football players. Go look at the rosters in the NFL.

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They're filled with all of those guys. Let me ask
you a question. Are there cheating? Is Connor Stallion's cheating
for Sean McVay for Blake Horn to look good? I mean, people,
Mikey sandersteal rookie for the Commanders, made the name fors
that made the pro like. Was Connor Stallion's cheating for him?
In Washington at that point, it's over, man, it doesn't matter. Now,
gonna go get my tattoo. It's over. Then the champions.

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Nothing's taken away. Fifteen and zero, twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Eat it. He here's what always has gotten me over
the years. And we see this. The SEC is notorious.
You know when a like a Mississippi state all of
a sudden gets a couple of five star recruits or
you know, one of those less teams they tried to
pay for cam and so the next thing you know,
bam NCA puts them on probation. Where does that come from?
The Alabama's all the big wigs like no, no, no, no

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no no no, no.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Your place right. We wanted that guy. Yeah, but we're
only we wanted that guy. We're only doing what you've
been doing forever. Okay, yeah, but we are in a
position to do that.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You are not. It happens over and over and it's like, wow,
big cheating scan. When this school seemingly came out of
nowhere and landed all these big time recruits. The whistleblowers
you know who they are. They're the big wigs man.
They're like, no, no, no, no, no no, stay in your place.
Stay in your place. All right, let's find out what
is a trending right now and a very busy sunday. Manci,

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how are you today?

Speaker 8 (24:46):
Oh? I'm just dandy.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
We are doing good? What's up? Not much?

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Not much a lot going on though. We'll start in
the NFL preseason. Why not started the third quarter here
between the Jaguars and the Saints. Jacksonville is upset. Venteen
to three year Trevor Lawrence started things out for Jacksonmille.
He was eight of ten seventy six yards, don a touchdown.
No Travis Hunter. He is dealing with an upper body injury.
According to head coach Liam Cohen, there will be another

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preseason game. Kickoff is at eight Eastern between the Bills
and the Bears. Other NFL news, well, the Bengals are
apparently listening to trade offers for edge rusher Trade Hendrickson.
There has been no progress on a new contract. NFL
media with the story. ESPN with the story about Giants
wide receiver Elak neighbors he hasn't practiced in eleven days
because he's dealing with.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
A minor back problem.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
ESPN has a story that one source characterized it as
normal camp tightness.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So eleven days.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
Molik Neighbors has not practiced for the Giants.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
We'll go to baseball.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Aaron Nola returned to the Mount today for the Phillies
and it was okay, but in the third inning he
got rocked, giving up seven earned runs alone in the
third inning. Was taken out right now, Phillies are up
though against Washington. It is eleven to six and it's
the top of the ninth inning. The Red Sox are
edging the Marlins two to one. Bottom of the fifth,
Rangers edging the Blue Jays two to one, top of

(26:06):
the fourth, Braves on top of the Guardians one zero,
bottom of the third inning. There and the White Soxs
are on top of the Royals one zero, bottom of
the second.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
About to start. W NBA action.

Speaker 8 (26:16):
Going on, and it looks like the center on top
of the Fever fifty eight to forty five. Late in
the third quarter, Sophie Cunningham the latest player of the
Indiana Fever to suffer an injury. She went down with
what looked like a knee injury. Was taken out of
the game. Of Fever have lost several players before today's game.
They did ask the fever about Caitlin Clark, and their

(26:36):
response about her returning by the end of the regular
season was that's the hope. The hope is that she's
back before the end of the regular season, back to
you guys.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Him on see by the way, Well I again, now
that we're in the football season, the WNBA has completely
been shelved. But I will say this, this has been
a disastrous yearn I mean, it's been negative story after
negative story after negative story after negative story.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Way to go w n B A and the and
the new budding star has been out from majority of
the year with Andrew and we're missing the year. Like
what you're like, Sophia Cunningham is having Like there's some
ladies having some bond A.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
J Wilson is balling. Okay, don't be surprised if Caitlin
Clark has played her last game in the w NBA.
She doesn't need the WNBA, she doesn't need the noise,
she doesn't need any of that. She can chase her
own path and it's like, no, I'm not gonna put
up with this crap. She may just say, you know what,
I'm going to do something else with my life. And

(27:38):
the w NBA is not going to be part of it.
She can make zillions of playing overseas and still maintain
all of her consent. I feel the opinion.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I feel the opinion, but I'm gonna lean on I would, man,
that would really question me. Were you ever really you know,
an athlete to just quit and walk away like that
because of what the noise and the pressure?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean, am I quitting the w M E A?
I mean, what are you telling me?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It has been your dream all these years to make
it here and play here, and you get here and
after a year of a lot of noise and then
a year for injuries, you're gonna walk away your opinion?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I've made millions and I'm.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
It was never about boarding. Okay, so now we see
who you are?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
All right? We're on Fox Sports Radio studios right now, guys.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Do we have.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
The Dylan Gabriel SoundBite? Do you have that in the system, Chris?
Is that somewhere? Uh? All right? Yeah? I got to
hear this because I just you know, I've got BJ
just frothy at the mouth. I'm ready to roll on
us here because the spin on this after Dylan Gabriel
said what he said, this was after uh, the preseason

(28:52):
game in which he showed some signs of looking good,
but then he threw a pick six, he had a fumble. Uh,
it wasn't a great performance. But after the game, Dylan
Gabriel was asked about just sort of staying above all
the noise that's been happening surrounding the quarterback controversy in
Cleveland Brown's camp.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
You know, there's entertainers and there's competitors, and I totally
understand that, and my job is to compete, and that's
what I'm focused on doing.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Of course, we're.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Doing this mid game, but you know, it's something that
I'll get used to and just want to be the
best team that I can and create an environment where
we can all go do our best work.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
That's all we want to do. So a lot of
people assume when he said entertainers he was referring to
Shuder Sanders and all his entries on social media. Now again,
Dylan Gabriel came back said, no, no, no, no, no,
I wasn't talking about Shudor. I was talking about you,
the media, the entertainers trying to create stories about controversy
in our camp. So which explanation do you buy Where

(29:51):
do you think he came when he quickly said, yeah,
there are entertainers and there are competitors, and I'm competing
right now to be the best I can be. What
is the truth behind his statement.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'm going to hope that he meant the media. But
I'm smarter than that. I'm smarter than the average bear. Okay,
we know exactly what he was talking about. We know
exactly who he was talking about. And you know what
this shows me. You can't handle the noise, homie. You
can't handle the noise like okay, so let's let's go here.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
So what if.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Shador Sanders is an entertainer, what you should be doing
is focusing on football, focusing on getting the job, making
your throws, not throwing in the three triple man coverage
on the pick six and also turning the ball over again.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, he looked, Okay, you look.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Good on some place if they're gonna run five and
aar outs all year long, Dylan Gabriels, you're a guy.
That's the guy you're gonna plug in and play if
that's gonna be your passing game. But it shows me
you can't handle the noise. You might not be built
for this. This other guy that you were talking about
subliminally and then had to walk it back.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
He's built for this. He's been raised in this.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
His dad is one of the most scrutinized guys in
the history of sports, not the NFL, in the history
of sports. Dion coach Prime Sanders is one of the
most screwinized athletes we have ever seen. This is nothing
new to assemble. We can see this is something new
to you. And last time I checked, no one's even

(31:23):
dogging you. People are saying you're better. People are saying
you should win the jumpy. No one is crapping all
on you. No one is bringing the entertainment to you.
I see you got rabbit ears right now. You listening
and seeing and hearing too much. But all sha dua.
Sanders is just being who he is, like, this is
who he is. He draws attention, he brings attentions like
Gateler Clark.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
He ain't asked for this, He didn't have to be
Deon sandersun but he is. So this is my cards.
These are my cards. These are the cars that I'm
gonna play. But I'm also gonna play football. I'm gonna
be locked in. I'm gonna do what I gotta do,
and when I get my opportunity, I'm gonna go out
and throw two touchdown passes and not turn the football
over while you turned the full of football over and
don't throw any touchdoup bout and then let that come
out of your mouth. I'll tell you this, man, and

(32:03):
I'll leave it. I'll leave it here. I guarantee you.
There's some teammates that heard that and they know exactly
what he meant.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
And someone got to him.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Someone went to him, a be in that locker room
went to him and said, hey, young buckeroo.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
No no no, no, no, no no, even if you
didn't mean it.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Okay, fine, go walk that back though, because it's going
to look like we have distinction in the quarterback room now.
And you're gonna put on the media when the last
time the media has been entertainment. Can anybody else it
up for me?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Because the media reference didn't make it?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, okay, all right, when you were in media, like
when you're I.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Know that I'm not. I'm not a sports journalist. That
to me is an oxymoron. But anyway, I'm a fan
and I have a mic, and that's where I am.
But it but here. But here's the thing. When I
think about the challenge for any rookie quarterback with any height,
based on draft position or notoriety, when you walk into

(33:01):
an NFL locker room and these are men, These are
men fighting for their lives, their jobs, for their family,
for their future children. So they look at you as
the quarterback understanding this. If you fail, I could lose
my job. Right That is a challenge for any rookie quarterback.
I don't care who you are, what your background is,

(33:24):
whether you were paidon Manning or whoever. There is no
greater challenge than a rookie quarterback walking into that locker
room and gaining the support and the confidence of those
men in that locker room. It's a challenge. So, like
you said, we don't know what's going on. I would
love to pull back the curtain and really starting to

(33:46):
get a sense around that Brown's locker room. What's the
buzz right now? Why are they feeling about Shador, how
are they feeling about Gabor right now? You know the
Flacco situation. I mean, I would love to find out.
And for Kevin STEFANKI all he can do is you know,
I if he felt like it was a problem, he
would have said something publicly about Dylan Gabriel speaking out attorney.

(34:09):
He hasn't done any of that, So that tells me
he's sort of letting this sort of play out amongst
the ranks. He's letting he's letting the let you guys
figure this out, and then as the coach, I'll make
that final decision. All right, good stuff, good stuff there,
all right. Coming up on the other side, we got
a lot more NFL news to get to, including a

(34:30):
couple of guys you definitely got to keep your eye on.
In twenty twenty five. We've already found out they're special.
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Speaker 1 (34:52):
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Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up at the top of
the hour, our producer Shay has come up with a question.
I'll just tease it right now that bears an answer.
A warrants an answer, and we will give you an answer,
Shay coming up at the top of the hour. Also,

(35:15):
our prefet picks are coming up next hour, and of
course John Paul Morosi will join us later on the show.
We got a lot going on with baseball. I talked
about the Dodgers and weekend series of the Padres. Dodgers
are in a free fall and all of a sudden,
the Padres come into La and they're stinking up the
joint right now, Dodgers retaking control in the end. So yesterday,

(35:37):
there were a couple of things the Raiders played yesterday,
and the first thing we were showing on TV last
night was Tom Brady walking in decked out in silver
and black. And I'm thinking of myself, this is a
guy that is well indirectly responsible for the most controversial

(35:58):
play that could have changed the course of both New
England and Raiders' history, and that of course, is the
tough play. I mean to say that Tom Brady in
the past was one of the more hated figures and
Raiders history would be an understatement. But to see him
walking into the stadium decked out like Al Davis back
in the day, the full Silver Black Year. Still it's

(36:21):
a little out of space. But it is what it is.
But I think we're both in agreement here. The Raiders
are one of those teams you're like, let's see. I mean,
you got Pete Carroll's at coach, you got a solid
quarterback in Geno Smith right now, you got Brock Bauers,
who's already the best tight end in the NFL at
this point, Travis Kelcey now obviously at the end of

(36:42):
his career, and then you got Ashton Genty and he
got my first place. So for the Heisman last year,
I believe outside of Barry Sanders Heisman season, he had
the best season that I've ever seen by any college
running back. He absolutely dominated all season long. And it
wasn't just that he's guy gets out in the clear
and he's off to the races. He can grind, he

(37:04):
can run inside, he's a tough runner. And so here
we go his first preseason game. I understand it's preseason,
but you know, eyeball test you watch, does this guy belong?
Can this guy be special? And from what I saw yesterday, yes,
Ashton Genty can be an immediate hit for the Raiders.

(37:25):
And if he is, Wow, now what are we talking about?
This is a Raider team that's had zero offense for years.
All of a sudden they got the possibility of being
something much improved. I'll say that.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I'll go deeper with this Raiders team. You're gonna you're
gonna love this opinion. The Raiders are the one team
to me in the AFC that can either help give
us a repeat kind of AFC that we had last
year or disrupt the entire AFC simply because of the
division that they're in. Because if you look at it right,

(38:01):
you have the Chiefs, you have the Chargers, and you
got the Broncos. All three teams that most people think
are gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well they are all the playoffs last year exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Now, if the Raiders somehow get this thing turned around quickly,
because it's gonna have to happen quickly, they're gonna have
to go like ten and seven to have a shot
to do what I think they can do. It starts
with PCP Carroll. But you know he wants to do
what run the football? And this guy right here, this

(38:32):
kid is capital l legit. This is an NFL running back.
It's funny, three or four years ago we were questioning
whether running backs mattered in the NFL anymore because Jonathan
Taylor had to hold the zoom with other running backs
to try to get money, to try to get paid.

(38:53):
They didn't want to pay running backs. They weren't drafted
running backs high anymore. And then Zeke Elliott happens, right,
Abijon Robinson comes along, and then a novel Kamara comes along,
and you get a Todd Gurley that had some injuries.
No but Todd Gurley still took his team, help us.
He even get to a Super Bowl. They pull it
up with the guy there. And now you're starting to
see teams are leaning back on their running game and

(39:15):
they're running back.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
There's a reason why say.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Kwan ran for two k and Derrick Henry ran for
nineteen and some change last year where those two teams
end up won won the Super Bowl. Okay, you gotta
have a running game. And Pete Carroll loves to pound
the rock and pound the football. And this kid is
not just a break like you said, a breakaway speed guy.
This kid is what we call a thumper. He's a

(39:37):
bell cow twenty three twenty five carries a Sunday. I
will say this, I would like him too early in
his career. Just know when the play is over, because
in the NFL there are guys that are gonna try
to prove that you're not that guy. So they're gonna
come in a little harder. You might get a knee shot.
It's illegal tackle, Bro, But it's the NFL these the

(39:58):
way some of these grown men are wired.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Early in his career. No, when it's over.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
But yesterday I saw him running over other ones for
San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
This kid's legit. Eight of his last nine games last season,
including their loss to Penn State, carried the ball at
least thirty times, Yes, Bro, at least thirty times eight
of his last nine games. He averaged seven yards of
carry for the season on three hundred and seventy four carries.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Steve, he had more yards after contact than the number
two all around Russia in the nation last year. So
if he had just got those yards, he still would
have led the nation in Russia last year.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Guys. You know what else is a special He could
have left after his sophomore year and gone to another school.
He stayed at Boise. He stayed smart thing, all right.
The question we're all looking to answer this is Fox
Sports Sunday. Rolling along here once again on another fully
loaded Sports Sunday. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Coming up
our per fat picks. John Bob Rosi is going to

(41:01):
be joining us a little later on in the show.
And yes, we continue our countdown to the start of
the NFL season, the real games. Remember next Saturday, Week zero?
Can't wait? You know what is about? What game count?
The actually the book, let's go. And then in a
couple of weeks we get the first full week of

(41:23):
college football and then the real games begin in the NFL.
So we got a lot going on around the sports world,
all right. So, like I said, perfect Picks are going
to be coming up here shortly. But for Shay, our
producer has a question and he's looking for an answer. Shay,
what is your question? All right? Guys?

Speaker 10 (41:42):
So I laid this out to VJ. We randomly started
arguing about something, as we always do. So I asked him,
if you were to choose a quarterback in the league
right now, as they are whatever they are right now,
to build your team round, who would you choose? I said,
Josh Allen? He said, I think Herbert. Do you still

(42:04):
stay with Herbert.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, he said, I'm gonna I'm gonna stay with with
with with with Herbert right like say, as everybody currently
is experience the hold exactly. Give me, yeah, give me,
give me, give me a Herbert man.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
All right. So when I'm looking at a quarterback, there's
a lot of factors here. I mean, obviously, you gotta
have talent throw in the football. That's an obvious. You
gotta have leadership qualities, You've got to have you just
gotta have the strut Man. To me, there's one guy
above everybody else, and that's Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow. To me,

(42:41):
I mean the whole thing with the Bengals right now
trying to shop trade Hendry if that if they're actually
trying to shop Trey Hendrickson. If I'm Joe Burrow, I'm like,
I want out. Okay. I Am not going to be
in an organization that not fully committed to help me
when the championships that my talent deserves, because I can
get a but I can't get it done if my

(43:01):
defense is given up fifty points a game. But to me,
and this is doesn't mean that you know, Mahomes and
all these guys have talent, But to me, Joe Burrow
is just the next level. He checks every single box.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I would agree with you on that. And Shaye, I
don't know if you've if you if you've watched quarterback,
but Joe, you haven't you have Okay, so I'll throw
this at you. I'll propose the question, you did Joe
Burrow come on with all the coolness, with all the talent,
with all did he not come off to you a
little bit as a me guy and a little bit whiny?

(43:44):
And I understand fire, I understand competitiveness, I understand all
of that. But Tom Brady was on I think it
was Joel Klatt's podcast recently where he talked about you know, quarterback,
isn't you know you just come do your job like
you know, I threw for four thousand, five thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Why we aren't went? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
And he goes, well, what are you doing to help
the defense? What are you doing to go to the
front office? What are you doing to go to the
coaching staff to make sure that they to put everybody
in check, to make sure that they're all doing their
jobs so I can be successful on the field, so
that we can be successful on the field. And I'm
not saying he was taking a shot at him, but

(44:24):
he was saying it to somebody because Brady doesn't talk
by mistake.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
But did not play for Mike Brown, No, he did not.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
But he also made it a point of you know,
if the coaches weren't there, I ran walkthroughs.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I did that.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You know, I would go in there and give them
the gameplay. So no, this is what we're doing. And
I call all fifty two guys and say be at
the stadium two hours early. He really was giving these
examples of and when I look at Burrow and.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Just some of the.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Sideline stuff in games when they're losing it. You can't
slam your helmet all the time, dude, Like, someone's gotta
be the composed leader. That's my thing with him, and
why I go with Herb being that I've been around Herbert,
we got the week, got the we covering him. You
get a sense of I like his sereneness, I like
his zin, I like how he's never you know, right there,

(45:11):
And to me, that's where your leader needs to be.
Did you see that from Burrow a little bit?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (45:17):
I did, But I'm gonna tell you both why you're
wrong and your decisions, because I do agree with both
of you, but I'm gonna show basically everything that you
said kind of gives a reason why my guy it
should be that guy. First off, Josh Allen has never
not proved himself as not a leader.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Correct. True, I'll give you that, correct.

Speaker 10 (45:35):
Absolutely, He's in a small market team, and he's made
this small market team relevant almost every year.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Can we agree on that? Yes, I had to work
through the double negatives, but yes, I agree with that. Okay. Sweet.

Speaker 10 (45:46):
So when we're looking at his four playoffs, okay, it
seems like you care more about their on field presence,
and then Steve Moore cares about the stats. So we
already went through the onfield presence of Josh Allen, right, correct, right,
So let's go. Let's go with the stats now and
four playoffs. Okay, this guy has twenty eight touchdowns and

(46:07):
one turnover. Okay, Okay, that's across ten games, four hundred
and twenty four passes in rounds.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (46:14):
So that's by wide margin, the best without in the
last four years. On top of it, his touchdown to
interception ratio in the playoffs is by far the best
by a wide margin six to one second is Pat Mahomes.
And the only person that has beat him in the
playoffs is Pat Mahomes. And it's not that Pat Mahomes
beat him. The crazy Chiefs team that's the dynasty that

(46:35):
we've seen, is the only team.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
To knocking him out right right, He's not gonna win.

Speaker 10 (46:38):
If if the dynasty was not a thing, Josh Allen would
have been in the playoffs many times. That's all I'm
gonna say. That is why I think Josh Allen is
the best quarterback that we have ever seen, probably in
the last five to ten years. I can even say that.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Well, again, my argument for Joe Burrows.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
He beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
He not only beat the Chiefs, he beat them in
the conference championship game inc Kansas City. But we're talking
about right now, right now, okay, well, right now, we
still haven't seen Josh Allen in a Super Bowl. Correct Again,
I'm not trying to demean Josh Allen, but I mean
that Joe Burrow's been there. He did it, and he
had to go through Kansas City on the road to

(47:17):
get there, and he got the job done. Josh Allen
is getting close. He's banging on the door. He hasn't
knocked his way through that door yet. I mean, we're
splitting hairs here. I'm not going to say that, but
to me, there is something I understand what you're saying
about Joe Burrow VJE. I get some of that as well.
You know, the me attitude, Like this is our argument

(47:39):
about Aaron Rodgers, right, I mean, you know, he's a
me guy, constantly mentions how many MVP awards he's won
and all this kind of stuff. Okay, but you're asking
me again, choose a quarterback. Everyone's starting with zero on
their roster, yes, zero. A team around one quarterback, and
I just think from I'm a talent standpoint, and all

(48:01):
the other invariables to make a great quarterback. I give
a slight edge interesting to Joe Burrow. I just think
that there's a little extra with Joe Burrow above the rest.
I will give you this.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
That was actually probably one of the best Josh Allen
defenses I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Like that's it's not hard. No no, no, no, no
no no.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
You gave solid numbers that are not gonna argue against
the twenty six and one. You'd be stupid to sit
on national radio and try to pick that apart.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
You can't. You can't, Okay, So I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I just I'm gonna go with Herbert because he has
all the tools both your quarterbacks have we can agree with.
Has a big arm, big guy, leader, can move, does it,
does it, turn the ball? He has the playoff hiccup,
and that we're not gonna ignore the hiccup. Yeah, it's
a bad day, it's a hiccup.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
It happens. Okay, it happened. We can't take it away.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
But he to that point, the reason why that game
was so eye opening, jaw dropping to those guys because
he didn't turn the ball over last year and it's like, dude,
you you.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Had a great turnover like non turnover season, and you
get to the playoff game and you do this.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
That's what made that game so shocking, but also the
premise of we're taking them where they are right now.
Burrow to me, I don't think it's gonna change that demeanor.
Josh Allens had every opportunity to do it, it hasn't
done it. Herbert's in his second year with Harball. They're
going to a Super Bowl, in the next two or

(49:34):
three years, guys, is what Harball does. I'm just gonna
go with History's Yes, I love the guy. Yes, he's
one of my favorite college players, coaches, all that stuff.
Everybody knows about me and the way I feel about
Jim Harball. But at the end of the day, what
he does is show up, turn your program around. From
University of San Diego, Stanford, Niners, Michigan, the Niners were

(49:55):
in the NFC championship game.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Is for like out of nowhere, they just went four
and twelve, four and twelve four twelve. He walks in
the door and go to the conference championship game.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I think this year, this team, even with some of
the nick knack injury we see John Quinton get knocked
out with a concussion last night, Harball's got guys that
just he needs football players and football guys. They'll all
rally around Herbert And once again I've been in this
locker room and Steve can attest it is you feel it, man.
He is the undoubtable leader. They are riding with this kid,

(50:27):
no one, there's no distinction nowhere around him. And he
just got his coach, Josh Allen's had his opportunity and
Burrow to me just has that demeanor of like you said,
I won out that if he were to do that,
then my point would be very valid. Right now, if
he would have go to I one out, well, you.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Know he wants to commit him from the organization. Here's
the thing about Herbert, in so many ways, he's very much.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Like Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I wanted to kind of. I mean, I mean, is
as likely he's going to be in the Hall of Fame.
He had seven or eight proto and Philip Rivers on
a personal lever love Philip Rivers. You know the Gollie
g that's that was the true man, and he was

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highly respected by his teammates. You heard what Antonio Gates
had to say about him. I forget that at the
Hall of Fame. But for whatever reason, we're talking about
a guy that never missed the start in his entire career.
Think about that, never missed a single start. He started
the AFC Championship game in on a torn a cel.

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He was a warrior, he did everything else, but the results,
for a variety of reasons were middle of the road.
I mean, you look at the decade of the twenty tens,
he started one hundred and sixty consecutive games. They had
a losing record in that decade, a losing record. He
never got, you know, past the divisional round. And this

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is where I fear. A guy like Herbert, who by
all accounts is a outstanding young man, obviously has talented quarterback,
but right now, at least to this point, he is
mirroring the career of Philip River.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Let me give you the flip side. Let me give
you the comparison. Let me give you the flip side
comparatison of that, because I see that one on Philip
Rivers of Justin Herbert. The name I hear more though
you want to talk about Justin Herbert comparison is Matthew Stafford,
because all the Stafford had all the talent in the
world when he came out he and with the Lions,

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he was incredibly talented. People though slagged him repeatedly because
of the record, because of the fourth quarter, because of losses.
He has a pretty good fourth quarter comeback record, but
because the lack of o line, the lack of weapons,
the constant churn at coach and coordinator, that was all
lost on people, you know, in particularly our business up

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here at the nation levels as well. Stafford can't win
these games. He just he's he's not a leader. You're
not going to win with him. And what happens he
gets traded over to the Rams and immediately wins a
super Bowl. The talent is all there with Herbert, and
that that organizational chaos has always been there. And like
last and the last few years, his weapons had probably
topped out at something like say Keenan Allen and now

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he's getting a good offensive line. But like it's it's
fascinating because like you will see people not give Stafford
that credit for his time in because.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
And you know that I always I'm not saying it
was bad there. The guy started sixteen games like seven
or eight straight years. That's always available.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
That's always the issue with quarterback stuff is like this
is the flip side of it. He could be Philip
Rivers or if he gets in the right spot, it
could be a Matthew ste.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Again, Philip Rivers is not bad, I mean, I think
I think is is that again We're still talking a
lot of what if with Justin Herbert. I mean, what
if he gets more weapons that you know, can actually
escalate his game? Because when you look at him statistically,

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after being Offensive Rookie of the Year, after being the
Pro Bowls starting quarterback for the AFC his second year,
he has regressed.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I don't know if he's regressed. He had a bad
playoff game. Let me ask you guys this though, Okay,
who has because we're talking about the player where they
are right now? Who has the highest ceiling of these
three guys? Cincinnati we are retrashing their front office in
the ownership and then Josh Allen on it like he's
going into the decade of his career, He's had these opportunities,
he has a going there. Who has the higher ceiling

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right now? I think it's Herbert because he's going into
his second year with Jim Harball.

Speaker 10 (54:42):
That part matters a lot, all right, imagine if Josh
Allen had played. But that's what I'm saying. He's able
to do he doing with the current situation he's in.
I think that shows you, like, Wow, this is the guy.
And justin Herbert, he's been in a good situation in
the last three three years.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I think we're getting away f coach. That coach was terrible.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
No, he hasn't his best situation was last year he
actually had a competent football coach that matters into sport
of But.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
The question is the thing about it was his biggest
stat last year was three interceptions over you know, seventeen starts.
He turned the ball over. He didn't turn the ball over.
But are you gonna let him lose? This guy whose
first two years through thirty one and thirty eight touchdown passes,
last two years he has twenty and twenty three. Are
you gonna let this guy loose and really air it

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out and let him take control.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Against more about the lack of weapons, as Shay just said,
I think is more about the lagway. I think Lamb
mcconke can be And I tweeted last night, I just
went to see what the fans thought. Could he be
a legitimate one? I think it like, could he be
Cooper Cup? Can Lamb McConkie be Cooper Cup?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Well? Hopeful Cooper Cup as a one year wonder well,
I mean, if you look at his career, he was
a one year wonderful Okay, so cool, Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
So one year times three or four to Steve okay,
so yeah, but a reliable one, A reliable guy he's
a great route run, he's got great hands. Justin Herbert
and him have a connection. They love having him. And
then look, Quentin Johnson gets knocked out of a cook
like he's not had a receiver. You almost had to
bring Keenan Allen back, which Steven I said a month
and a half ago. If I'm Keenan Allen, just come back.

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It's not working in Chicago. You don't the new coach again.
You don't want to deal with that. Come on back
to the charge and he's back. I think the lack
of weapons and also to just trying to get hardballs.
You know, offense acclimated to what he wants to do.
And we say it about JJ and Michigan doesn't have
the gaudy numbers. But don't turn the ball over. And
when it's time for you to make the throw and

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make the play, make the throw and make the play.
Herbert did all last year until the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I will say this, this is a this is a
watershed season for him. He's got to have that next level. Yeah,
at some point here we got to see Herbert.

Speaker 10 (56:49):
He's according to you, right now, he's in the best situation.
I mean, look at it, look at it.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
I feel that. Look at the Lamar Jackson numbers. Look
at the Josh Allen numbers. Look at the Joe Barrown numbers.
Those are the numbers you got to get to. Yeah,
he's not even close.

Speaker 10 (57:03):
I can see Steve's argument about Joe Burrow. I just
think Josh Allen's a better version of Joe Burrow. I
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Ahead Pople years ago and Joe Burrow beat him. Well,
this is what I'm gonna do. Then I'm gonna just
go out on the limb. Now I throw it out there. Now,
just Justin Herbert gets to the playoffs again this year.
They Justin Herbert gets that playoff win. There's a Jim
Harball and Justin Herbert win a playoff game in twenty twenty.
Put it on put that on wax.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
All right, well we've got it on tape. I got it.
If you guys wanna. This is why the season can't start, right,
I just can't start it gets all right? Coming up
with the other side, We're gonna get to overs unders.
We got a lot going on with the per fat picks.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Harbin and Husky here on

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a fabulous Sunday. Hope you're having a great day out there.
We always have a lot of funt here on Fox
Sunday and the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, it
is that time here.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
We are precisely profitable over under a half a flagrant.
Are your perfect picks? All right, let's get right into
it here, because we've got a bit of a loaded
problem and we are coming up too close to the
football season to keep some of these on the board.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
But do we have an updated scoreboard? Yes? Yes, I'm ready.
Am I allowed to finish the sentence? Yeah? Right, I know,
but I'm always anxious.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Thank you, I I appreciate it. Well, I am glad
you are anxious. You've got to be did if we
did so? You guys both went under on Justin Fields
and Jackson Dark combined yards? Uh, not a lot once
again of to see from Justin Fields in these games.
It's not exactly passing his way out here, but the
deciding point actually goes to VJ. Remember we were talking

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about that preseason week to kick attempt. Will Lutz kicked
and missed from sick four yards. Sure only one I was.
I was scrolling through everything and I'm like, hey, it's
a lot of fifty nine, fifty nine, fifty eight, fifty
seven and Will Lutts. Will Lutts is the deciding factor here.
So VJ is now within one point of Steve twenty

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five twenty four Steve in the league.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yes, And as I've said many times, J, here's the
thing BJ, I've been doing. I've been doing a lot
of these with partners, many Benny partners over the years,
and I have never won. So you do not want
to be the first.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
I'm trying to move you to listen, You're not going,
so I'm trying to give you some good feelings by
giving you a little lead. Like you know, like Mike
Hart said about little brother, remember that you let him
win a little bit.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
And do you know, because you know.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You could come back and beat them to you let
him win it first.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I'm just doing We might be running at a time
of that, but we'll see either way. You have all
the time you need, all the time you need. But
for now, for now, right now, we're gonna go completely
to futures because we do have to finish up the NFL.
We've got eight teams left before the season starts, so
let's see how many we can get through for today.
That's gonna be the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I'm ready, I'm ready to throw them out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Let's start. Let's start with the Arizona Cardinals eight and
a half. You can see why I've kind of kept
this one off the board. Under that's anyone to talk
about the Cardinals. Well, no one talks about the Cardinals.
But I'll tell you what I think. Kyler Murray showed
last year that he's still a talent. Yeah, Kyler Murray

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is a talent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
They don't have enough, man.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
You got they go to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
This is so tough because we don't know about the
Rams situation. We don't know about the forty nine ers situation.
You really don't know about Seattle. I mean that that
there are so many question marks hanging over the entire
NFC West that a team like Arizona with a healthy
Kyler Murray could sneak in there and get nine wins.

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Were eight nine last year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I'll go over. I'll go over on this one. I
think it's gonna be hit on the number eight another
year again and his coach another year with Marvin Harrison junior. Yeah,
I could see the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
I like them and no, and don't forget Will Johnson
is out there shutting everybody down from Michigan just real
point fast with them, though the schedule is easy for
him early. So I can see where Steve might be
leaning in now or leth Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I mean in the Colts are their first six, like, yeah,
you know, we'll see in the defense has some last year.
Remember run they had with Kingsbury where they got the
hot start, collapsed at the end, but you know what,
they got eleven wins that year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
So I'll go on, I'll go on there on this,
I'll go over all. Right, let's move on to you
mentioned the Colts there. Let's talk about another horse team,
the Broncos nine and a half. He got the sheet
out here, and I'm actually fairly high on the Broncos
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Apparently I say it right now. I'm gonna say it
right now. The Denver Broncos will win the AFC West.
They're gonna win thirteen games this year. At least. They
are that good. They dominate both sides the line. Ko
Knicks obviously with Sean Payton's going to be a year better.
I watched their preseason, I know is preseason now starters
out there, But I'm just watching that sideline. There's a

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lot of confidence of the Broncos right now, so way
over nine and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I'm gonna also go over on the nine and a half.
I'm gonna pump my brakes on the AFC West Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
But I do agree with Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
They're really really, really, really really good on both sides
of the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
In the trenches.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
They dominate on the offensive line, they dominate on the
defensive line. They have, in my opinion, the number one
shut down corner in football when Patrick starts in junior
and bringing over Greenlaw from the Niners at the linebacker
position is going to be huge for the diver Broncos defense.
And listen, both Nicks. I'm not buying this jersey yet,

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but I'm not out on him as I was when
he was getting drafted. And Sean Payton is a top
five or six coach of all song.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Well, I mean certainly when it comes to running off
and with quarterbacks, and I don't think you know Bo Nicks,
as we mentioned it started more Division one games, and
any quarterback at his story playing in the SEC, playing
in the back twelve, I don't see a sophomore Jinx.
He may not, you know, exceed the numbers from a
year ago, but I don't see him taking a big
step backwards and they get run.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Of that sophomore Jinx. Let's get one more in here
before we go to Monsei the Commanders. Another sophomore quarterback
here with Jaden and Daniels. Their total is set at
a bit of an eye watering nine and a half
myself bow of our, of the belief that you could
see some real come down for it. Sillivan signed Terry
McLaurin took him off the pup list, though. Nine and

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a half for the Washington Commanders. Where are we at?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I like this one because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Every quarterback guy that happens with a good rookie year
doesn't have a sophomore gens. It happens, but not everybody.
And I hear a lot of his sophomore jink stuff
about Jade and Daniels that I'm not buying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
This kid can play. This kid's legit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
They have a great coach there, They have a great
young defense there. McLaurin, hey man, you could plug and
play receivers. Guys in the NFL. We see a year
in a year, especially when you have a quarterback like
Jadeen Daniels, and I questioned Dallas. Dallas is a team
of course, even with that coming back, they have the
worst running back room in the league. They don't know
who's running the ball for them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
So give me ten. I can see jade and Daniels
will get you ten dubs. So I'm going over on
this again. When we talk about these numbers, you know,
on the surface, you're like, come on, nine and a half,
they can't win ten games. I'm smelling a rat here.
Something is going on with that number. I'm taking the
under here. I am still in the corner of the

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Cowboys that the Cowboys, despite this disastrous offseason so far,
are gonna somehow come out of it playing much better
than they did a year ago. So I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Under propaganda for the under. I don't remember how many
one score for games they had, especially decided.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
That miracle game against the Bears. Bears, but you have yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
So you have what is one of my favorite little
technical terms, regressions, the mean thing about this out there
ready to strike.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
You remember Minnesota, the Vikings, right, they had the big
year where they were eleven and zero one score games.
What happened the next year? They had a losing season.
Then they had the big bounce back, but they didn't
have they didn't have Jayden days. They didn't have Daniels
And uh, I mean, he's phenomenal. We'll see, but I'm
gonna lean under there. All right, we got more coming
up at first, Let's find out what is trending all

(01:05:37):
right now with Mons, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Back Moncie, Jayden Daniels sophomore slump or no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I hope not. No, you know, I don't know. I
hope not.

Speaker 8 (01:05:52):
But I I just feel like that's your The schedule
is going to be harder than they had. Like there's
so many things where it's like, is it a more
slumper is it just harder competition? And how he adjusts.
So I just like, whenever I think it's not gonna happen,
it happens. And when I think it's gonna happen, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
All right, hold on, hold On is a resident Charger fan.
Let me ask you this. Would you trade Justin Herbert
for either Josh Allen or Joe Burrow? Would you trade
Justin Herbert for either Joe Burrow or Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Do it, mon, Let her answer the question.

Speaker 8 (01:06:30):
You know, so VJ knows j I would I would
stick with Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Okay, so I'm offering you Joe Burrow. You say, no,
I'm offering you Josh Allen. You say, I.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
Am still hopeful about Justin Hurtz this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yes, I'm all in.

Speaker 8 (01:06:46):
You know, had I changed my mind if I was
off of it, then yes, But I'm not off of
Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
All on Justin Herber, Right, I'm offering you Patrick Mahomes.
Would you trade for Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 9 (01:06:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Would you trade for Lamar?

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
No, there's nobody trade.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Would you Borrow? Would would trade for Easton Stick? You know,
now you're getting to get him back? Now, I kind
of do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Like Easton Stick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Yeah, I think that's the one. That's the way. Now
we're talking, guys. You guys got it. Listen, you get
Joe Burrow.

Speaker 8 (01:07:21):
Would be the hardest one, because Joe Burrow is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Dan Humphrey, only Charger quarterback to lead him to the
Super Bowl, my buddy goodness.

Speaker 8 (01:07:31):
No, no, all right, well let's start in the NFL, guys,
Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski says that he's going to
name the starting quarterback ahead of their final preseason game
so that he can use that as dress rehearsal for
a week once so we will know who the Brown
starting quarterback will be sooner rather than later. The Texans
are trading wide receiver John Metchi to the Eagles. This
just happened not long ago. NFL media reports. Yeah, I

(01:07:53):
don't have the details as to what the trade is yet,
but he's going to the Eagles, and this has been
the last week or so of conversations apparently. Yeah, John
Mitchi to the Eagles, multiple sources. Once, I'll tell you
who for what a while, I'll let you know, but
it's still up in the air.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
NFL preseason action.

Speaker 8 (01:08:11):
Well, at first, I was telling you Bengals are listening
to trade offers for edge rusher Trey Hendrickson because no
progress in the contract. Giants wide receiver Eliku Neighbors hasn't
practiced an eleven days ESPN with the story apparently is
a minor back problem. NFL preseason continues. Jaguars are up
on the Saints seventeen to nine with about three minutes
to go in the fourth quarter still to come later
today the Bills and the Bears.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
That kicks off at eight eastern.

Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
In baseball, the Orioles are all over the ass Shows
five zero, top of the fifth inning, Reds edging the
Brewers one zero.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Top of the eighth.

Speaker 8 (01:08:39):
Brewers still in that winning streak. The Braves are edging
the Guardians five to four. It's the top of the six.
Rangers are trying to snap their four game losing streak,
and right now they're beating the Blue Jays eight to
two top of the seventh inning, Red Sox on top
of the Marlins three to two bottom of the eighth.
The Twins have a three to one lead over the
Tigers bottom of the thirty Minnesota and they have the
bases loaded, but they are down to their final out.
Yankees on the scoreboard first against the Cardinals three zero,

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bottom of the fourth, Pirates and Cubs tied at one
apiece bottom of the fifth, and the Phillies defeated the
Nationals eleven to nine in the WNBA into overtime. The
fever and the sun went and Indiana took the lead
there up ninety four to ninety in this one, and
it looks like is it Kelsey Mitchell that is leading
the way with.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Thirty eight points?

Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
Yep, thirty eight points for the Fever Star. Back to
you guys, Hi right, mon Sie, thank you very very much.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Once again, Hartman and Husky here on the Fox Sports
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I have a very quick Stan Humphrey story so stand

(01:09:48):
of course leading the Chargers to the Super Bowl. They're
blowout loss to the forty nine Ers, the Chargers only
appearance in the Super Bowl. So in nineteen ninety eight,
Jim Hill, legendary broadcaster here broadcaster NFL, had just returned
to CBS and they wanted to create a show still
on the air called Sports Central, and Jim reached out

(01:10:10):
to me to be on this show with him. And
we were looking for a former NFL player to join
us every week. And the first guy we had because
he had just bounced his retirement from the Chargers was
Stan Humphreys. So the first year of Sports Central, it's me,
Jim and Stan Humphries. But the funny thing was, right
down the street from our studios is a Tommy's Burger. Now,

(01:10:32):
if you know what about Tommy's Chili burgers or legendary
in southern California, in the LA area, And I introduced
Stan Humphries to Tommy's. I'll put it this way. By
the end of the football season, he had put on
a noticeable fifteen pounds pounding those Tommy Burgers. But love Stan.

(01:10:53):
He a great guy. But yes, only Charger quarterback to
actually get to the student, Not Dan Fouts, not Philip Rivers,
not Justin Herbert just going, Stan upre going all right,
let's get back Tamar purpet picks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Yeah, sorry, I was like chasing down some stuff. It
sounds like for the John Metchi trade. It sounds like
the uh Harrison bryantson tight end might be on the
move as well. But well, we'll get more details on it. Anyway,
back to the picks. We got Trey Hendrickson's on the move.
We've got about five picks here to do. We'll see
what we can do today. While we're still in the

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NFC easton talking about them. Yeah, the Eagles, the Super
Bowl champions. We haven't done their their win total for
whatever reason, arcane reason, we've gotten into So Eagles at
eleven and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
After what I just heard, this is easy for me.
The Eagles are not playing around. The Eagles are loading up.
Are you people out there that's well Jalen Hurts had say,
Kwon Barkley.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Well, now you can add John Amichi, the AJ.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Brown and Devonte Smith and all the other stars they
got over there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Goodness gracious, but I love it. Don't sit on your.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Championship, go get another one and always bring in players
that can do it. This is over for me. This
is over over for me by at least two games.
Eagles are thirteen and four this year, they could be
fourteen and three.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
They're gonna be tremendous this year. Over Eagles history says
when they come up big, they come up short the
following year.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
There is a pass that changes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
It is a tatter. And we've had twenty straight years
without a repeat champion at the NFC East. That seems
like inconceivable that the Eagles will not win the NFC
East this year? Inconceivable? Is it inconceivable? The Saquon Barkley
is not gonna be healthy. I don't wish Ill will
on anyone, especially a great player by Saquon, but his
history of injuries. Can't trust him. I'll take the Eagles under.

(01:12:45):
They again eleven and a half, right and a half? Yet, yeah,
they could go eleven and six easily. That's an under.
So I'm gonna take under four. Is it four teams less?

Speaker 8 (01:12:56):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Four teams left? We got time for probably one or
two more. Here, let's do what. Okay, you guys get
to pick Titans Vikings. Now it's yours. It's the perfect okay,
geez here, I am trying to give choice, no matter.
But no, let's go with the Texans. I was standing
up for their right to go back to being the
Houston Oilers the other day. It is an extremely tough

(01:13:18):
team considering all the questions around them. They're totally said
at nine and a half. The key here, I think
is that you look around that division and uh, who's
stopping them at this point? Like they could they could
kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Be just so so, but I mean Stopsonville is a
big question mark. Yes, still, I mean you just as
that it. I we've seen the end of Trevor Lawrence
and Jacksonville the coach, I don't know. And Travis sunder
by the way, are you're concerned about his injury already? Okay,
one game in he's already hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I just think it's they cover this stuff man with
tightness and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
All right, do you want to go first on the Texans?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Yeah, I'll go first on the Texas because I think
the hosts might be a little better. They don't have
a quarterback, but they can still run the football and
they're still gonna have a very good defense on the
field the coast, though they never talked that defense. The
Texas are just they're just so up in the air
with me because it all hitches like most teams with c. J.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Stroud, right, was last year a slump?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
They won ten games last year, guys, and people had them,
you know, winning twelve thirteen games this nine and a half.
There's always a team that has a slide one way
or another, and it could be them. Schedule isn't super kind.
And I'm Tampa and the Rams to start off Jacksonville,
Tennessee at Baltimore at Seattle that's two back to back

(01:14:37):
road games. You know, it could be tough for them,
and then San fran and Denver and Jacksonville after that
that that could be a tough little stretch right there.
You know what, I'll take the under on this because
I just, I honestly, I just don't believe in CJ.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Stroud. I thought they had a good rookie year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
But even then, it took the Coast to decide to
throw a fourth and one to a fullback in a flat.
They only had one pass thrown to him all year
long for him to win that game to get to
Tennis seven. And then they blew off the Browns in
a playoff game with flack hol once that magic went away,
and then we all fell in love with them. So
I'm gonna go under on them this year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
I thought this was an interesting in our NFL Insider,
Adam Kaplan was asked a question yesterday which NFL quarterback
has the most to prove in twenty twenty five, And
you're thinking, like Josh Allen, are you know what his
answer was? CJ. Stroud? Was that for real that rookie season?

(01:15:29):
Is that the guy we're gonna see or we're gonna
see the guy that regressed obviously a year ago. This
is a really tough one, tough one. The only thing
that sort of keeps them above water is that division,
because that division could be if Jacksonville doesn't bounce back.
Colts are a mess. It's not a good division, and
that that could get them. What nine and a half

(01:15:50):
is the over under nine and a half ten and seven.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Last year, but they had to struggle to get to
tennis one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I would love to play. I gotta go under on
this soon. I just I don't. I don't want to.
I don't think they can win ten games this year.
All right, really the tough guys.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Something I want to do with the other three teams
since I will away next week, Well I will be
away next week.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Uh well, we'll come back at the break, and SHA's
not going to be here next week. Is that right?
Let's finish it after the break, why not? Yeah, I'm
exactly what we'll do? Yeah, well right at three more
over unders. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Harven and Husky
here once again live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
All right, with both Chris and Shay. I'll next week,

(01:16:33):
we got to finish off these future picks over unners
in the NFL, three more gay teams. What do we
got here here?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
We are profitable over under a half? A flagrant, gentleman,
are your perfect picks? Just wanted to hear that again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
That's okay, Bona, let's sure, let's start.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
In with the Vikings. Might be the last team on here.
That's maybe important to really get to your Vikings. Their
window said it nine and a half. It just seems
unbelievable that number.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Not and a half or a team wum in again,
how is that possible? What is why am I? That
number seems so out of whack? Okay, so nine and
a half. Look, they won fourteen games with Sam Donald.
They can't win ten games, so JJ McCarthy, Yeah, they can't.

(01:17:26):
I gotta go over. I don't. I can't imagine, like
the whole world isn't betting over on this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
They gotta be betting over because that's the bet to
May last year. By the way, I did predict that
this the Vision would have three playoff teams on our Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
So I used to have with Martin VJ. So I crashed.
I cashed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
You did you do that before?

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
McCarthy went down with his injury.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Yeah, it was beforehand. Yeah you know me, man is
my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
If even knowing before the season to be Sam Donald,
you had to take it there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
No, No, I was wrong when Sam Donald got the job.
I said that they were gonna win like six or
seven games. I was off oning that. Once Sam Donald
got the job, I ever believe the Sam darnof give
me the over on this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
I think this division is still good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
I know Detroit's lost their coordinators, but you still have
all that talent on the field and that's coming back.
And I think Green Bay is good. Like all the
floor does is win ten eleven games. Guys, I'm trying
to figure out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
I agree on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Why, yeah, why he's gonna have this down year? Where's
it coming from? If we haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
It going from the lousy playoffs these three teams have, Like,
but this ain't the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
We're talking about just the over and under for the
regular season nine and a half. This is easy for me.
Jaj's the future there, guys, give me the over.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Two more teams, two minutes on the clock here, Let's
go up to New England, where the Patriots are having
an eight and a half win line eight and a half.
Big year coming up for Drake. Maybe there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Way they're going to get under. There's no way.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Did you go to get nine wins?

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
No way the bum ass Jet's gonna be better than
them this year.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
I actually they've.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Been quietly making something fairly like it's still away.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
And then you know the AFC is too tough. I
don't believe Rabel, but no, he's too Yeah. I like
Rabel too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
But Drake, Drake made the look he had Ryan Tannehial,
he's kind of got the same thing.

Speaker 9 (01:19:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
The only thing you don't have is that Derek Hendry,
So you don't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
No, not, this is all right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
And the last one on here was the was the
last one in the rankings last year the Tennessee Titans
five and a half wins to start the round.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
You say the Saints are the worst team. No, Tennessee
is the worst team.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Well, I want the Saints to be the worst so
that Arch comes out of Texas and goes there fifty
five years later he's drafted from when his grandfather was drafted.
That they get just a great story for the Saints.
This is under for me, either, The Saints or the
Tennessee Time is gonna be the worst team in the
league this year.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yeah, that team, it will be lucky to win four games. Lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
It's not the end of perfect picks, but that is
the every all thirty two teams we now have over unders.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
So when you return in a couple of weeks, yes,
because we'll still be in that dead week yep, before
the start of the rage down.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Yeah, we'll have everything down. We'll have some college picks,
we'll still have some baseball. We'll start to get ready
for some NFL probably have an NFL like prop future
that you guys like, So the perfect picks continue. We
just have gotten the big chalupa out of the way
in the case of NFL futures.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
All right, So I will maintain my one point lead
because you didn't pick anything this week, and those picks
we'll start to now a week that I lead VJ
Husky in the perfect pick standing. We're gonna get that
Bellichie one sleep all right, coming up with the next door.
Still plenty of NFL news to get to, and yes,

(01:20:50):
we'll check in with John pal Morosi. This is Fox
Sports Sunday, fully loaded. Here on another action packed Sunday
in the sports world. This is Fox Sports Sunday and
we're in the Fox Sports Radio studios. John Paul Morosi,
our MLB insider, is gonna be joining us, coming up

(01:21:11):
here in about twenty minutes plenty to talk about, highlighted
by this weekend series between the Dodgers and the Podres
and Vj's Rangers right now demolishing the Blue Jays eight
to two. But you're about ready to pull the plug
on the season.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
They got a week and I'm gonna talk to Japple
when we bring on and ask them that they got
about a week, but two and eight in the last
ten four game losing Street five and a half down,
now out of the wild Card.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I just come on, man, I will say this. Amongst
baseball people that I have met over four decades, Bruce
Bochi's top five. I mean just just in terms of
the person he is and everything. Obviously knew him from
literally the first season he became the manager of the

(01:21:58):
Padres all the way through the Res. So one of
my top five favorite baseball people ever.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Definitely one of one because he got my Rangers.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
In the World Series. Well forever four. It's interesting the
man has four World Series championships, which automatically obviously puts
in a Hall of Fame, and it's most likely that
he will finish his managerial career with a losing record. Wow,
he will actually have lost more games over the course
of his career than one. But he's still an automatic
Hall of Famer with four World Series championships. None of

(01:22:31):
the those years all three with San Francisco, plus the
year with the Rangers where they expected to win a
World Series. Steve saying, championships matter? Isn't that weird? How
that happens? So winning on at the biggest moments? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
How about that for a novelty idea and sports? Or
actually winning well when it counts the most matters?

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Well, certainly if you're trying to gauge the status of
a manager or a coach winning championships. And this is like,
you know, like people are upset about a guy like
Howard Schnellenberger, right, you know. Howard Schnellenberger apparently is not
eligible for the College Football Hall of Fame because he
didn't have a career a winning percentage of six hundred,

(01:23:16):
Yet he was the creator of what became one of
the greatest dynasties in college football history? Can you can
you write the history of college football without mentioning what
Howard Schnellenberger did at the U? And the answer, by
the way, in the moment right now, Bruce Bochie's career
record is two two and thirty two and two thowound

(01:23:39):
and forty eight. He has sixty more losses than wins.
He writes, it's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
He's been a five World Series, one fourth. Well, and
that's what people a going to remember. That's all exactly
all right. So VJ came in today.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Hot as usual, and he says, because he's always working
on his own, he's like the mad scientist, right, He's
got a little things that he comes up with. I
got something today, all right? So what do he got
I'm ready, I'm ready? What he got here? What do
he got got it? Going on? Today?

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
I think there are four teams that can completely upset
and turn the AFC on its head. Or these four
teams that each of them did not make the playoffs
except for one last year, will just give us kind
of a repeat AFC. The you know, the Bills, the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
The Ravens, right right, those are the teams the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
But there's some teams that can upset this for various reasons.
Let's start with the Bengals. Now, Trey Hendricks, we know
that's going on, but we also know Joe Burrow is
gonna put up numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
He's got the one B.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
I still think JJ's one A, but Jamar Chase is
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
One a point five crown last year. Absolutely, that's receptions,
yards and touched.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
If they can just stop anybody, it disrupts what we
think we're gonna get out of Pittsburgh. It disrupts what
we think is gonna happened with the Ravens in the
AFC North, the next team I have.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
You're Raiders. Can we stop on the Bengals for a second. Sure?
Here is the one thing to keep in mind. Joe
Burrow's five and two in postseason games and when he
gets there. Okay, he was so you know, we were
talking about his win over the Bills. He won on
the road against the Chiefs, got his team to a
Super Bowl. He's five and two now, again, they only
made the playoffs twice. I get that back to back years.

(01:25:27):
But he's five and two in the postseason. So if
the Bengals do get to the postseason. You got a
quarterback that has a seven to fourteen winning percentage in
the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
He's been He's beating Mahomes and Josh Allen on the
road in their own buildings.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
He's the only quarterback who can say that. Okay, next
team I have is your boys, the Raiders. Pete Carroll,
even though I am not a big Pete Carroll guy
because of the sc stuff, still holding a grudge the
MAGA just flat out coach Rock the energy, I was
telling Steve during a commercial break, I'm watching both these

(01:26:04):
full Raider playoff games. The energy is different, the form
tackling is different, the aggression on defense is different.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Ashchinci is gonna run through people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Geno Smith is a very accurate quarterback and very capable
and tied at the hip with his head coach as
they were together in Seattle, Steve said he saved his
career up there. Pretty much. You have some weapons on offense,
You have the best tight end. He might be winning.
He could be the best top ten. You know, receiver
are tight in the League's the best top ten in

(01:26:37):
the league. But there's receivers that Brock Bauers is better
than okay, and we just don't know about this division.
Somebody's gotta upset this thing. So the second team I
would have and I'll let you respond the Raiders could
really upset because of the division that they're in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Okay, So let's talk about upgrades for the Raiders. Last year,
your coach is Antonio Pierce. Right. Now you have Pete
Carroll right, Okay, that's monumental, monumental. Last year, your two
starting quarterbacks were Gardner Minshew and Adan O'Connell. Now you
have Geno Smith. Is that an upgrade. That's a mass

(01:27:13):
up Okay. Your leading rusher last year was Alexander Madison.
Now you have Ashton Genty. Is that an upgrade? Major upgrade? Okay.
So again we're not just talking upgrades. We are talking
like leapier upgrades at coach, at quarterback, at running back,
and let's not forget Max Crosby. And by the way,

(01:27:36):
think about this, despite those quarterbacks, you know, Bowers one
hundred and twelve catches eleven and ninety four yards. Jakobe
Myers had eighty seven catches over one thousand yards. That
he had two thousand houred receivers with those quarterbacks. Those quarterbacks,
so now you got Now you got one of the
most accurate quarterbacks in the league in Geno Smith, plus
the added dimension of a big time running back that

(01:27:58):
should open things up for the past game. And then
he got Pete car on the sideline. So I'm one
hundred percent with you In the Raiders, this team was
a four and thirteen team a year ago. It is
conceivable that they could win ten games.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Yeah, absolutely does. He's Jim Harball. He turns things around.
And plus the reason why I also picked this team
because if they're good, then who's falling in the AFC
wes Is it Denver?

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Is it the Chargers? Is it the cheat?

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Like everyone can't win eleven and twelve games in the
same division, Guys, it doesn't work that the schedule doesn't
work that much. Everybody can't win twelve eleven, so somebody
is going to lose close games, two or three of them.
That's the difference between seven and ten and ten and seven.
Are those close losses? Late miss field goal, block kick fumbles,
tit pass interceptions. When you're trying to drive a fumble

(01:28:49):
bounces out of bounds or bounces out of the back
of end zone. You're about to score and now it's
the touch. There's there's weird things that happen Sunday to Sunday.
So the third team I have was a playoff team
last year, but we know what happened when they got
to the playoffs. But if they take a thirteen and
four type record this year, they can upset the entire
AFC because to me, that would give you home field advantage.

(01:29:11):
That means you'd have to come out here to Solfar,
to sunny California to play a run oriented dominated Trench's
defensive offensive line type of team that Jamar puts Harball
puts on a field, and that's the Sandy and that's
the Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
I like San Diego should stay will always be the
Sandy age. They should always be the same, and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
They mistake on our first appearance all.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Because they should still be the San Diego. I agree
with you. I agree. The only thing holding back the
Chargers is the Spanos curse. And we've already seen Rashaan
Slater go down with an injury that it was brutal,
brutal to lose a player of that caliber, especially after
extending this deal. Look, they have to have more weapons. Defensively,
this team was one of the best. Were they number

(01:29:54):
one in scoring.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Seventeen point two points per game.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
The number one scoring defense in the league. They ever
done that before in their franchise history. But in order
to get to the next level, they still need somebody.
I mean, like Quentin Johnston has potential. He's he's a
little actually flies under the raad. Look he had eight touchdowns,
I mean, but he got banged up again in the preseason.
So look, if they're going to get to that level,

(01:30:21):
I think they've upgraded it running back, but we still
don't really know what's going on with Najee Harris right now.
Where is he going to be ready to go? Why
is Amari Hampton? Why is he not playing right now?
What's going on whether they're running back position? That is
a little curious to me. But look, I believe in
Jim Harbaugh. What he did a year ago, to me
was a miracle. I don't know how this team was

(01:30:43):
able to enable get into the postseason the way they
did a year ago. If not this year, it's coming.
I just to know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
If it's this year, I said, within the next two
when he took the job. When he got the job,
I said, in his first three years, they're going to
be in a super Bowl. So if it's not this year,
it's next year, they're gonna be in a super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
First, you gotta be able to stretch defenses. You gotta, right,
they gotta have somebody offensively against stretch that defense. They
need a burner. But his team's never had burners.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
If you go back to the San Francisco teams that
got to Michael Crabtree wasn't us. He was a big
time he was a big body, possession receiver. Jesse Menzer
has got that defense rolling right. That's why they're gonna
win a lot of match Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Crabtree pass interference or not in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
I just think on the last play in the back
corner super Bowl, you let the players decide it. I agree,
you let the players. You have you have to hold
the fly. You cannot, you cannot make forty Yeah I
know they haven't. But you know, all right, so last
you already know who it is. It's my mindy Miami Dolphins.
Now here's the thing, though, I'm not saying they're gonna

(01:31:49):
do it. These are just four teams you should look
out for that if they have top end seasons, it
disrupts the rest of the AFC because of the three
power teams Steve and I agree on the Chiefs, the Ravens,
and the Bills are the three power teams. All these
teams I just named are in divisions with those teams.
So if Tua can stay on the field, and he

(01:32:11):
has to, and I'll go out publicly and say it now,
as probably the only Dolphin fan Fox Sports Radio, definitely
the biggest one here. Tua not only has to get
to the playoffs this year, he's gotta win a playoff
game this year, or you have to start to have
some tough conversations about what you want to do with
your quarterback position. As a Dolphin fan or as a
Dolphin front office personnel person.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
They've got to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
The playoffs this year, and they've got to win a
playoff game. I don't care if you go to Texas
and win one, if you go up to Buffalo and
get one. It'd be nice to win a division and
have everybody have to come down to Miami. That'd be beautiful.
But we'll see how that turns out. But if the
running game is gonna be what it's gonna be if Tua,
it's all predicated on to when he plays. All they
do is win eleven or ten games. It's been proven.

(01:32:56):
When he doesn't play, We've seen what happen. Man, it
all hinges onto it. I'll go out on another limit
say this. I don't think there's a quarterback that has
a bigger make it or break it season in the
NFL this year as we stand right now in August seventeenth,
than to a tagabay loa my man oos. He is
one quarterback that you know, like, if he gets hurt

(01:33:17):
this year, it's over.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Okay, I'm gonna make a prediction right now. You already did.
When we're sitting here, a year from now, we'll be
talking about a new head coach of the Miami Uns.
Don't do that too much. I mean, I'm sorry. I
like Mike McDaniel on a perfect on a personal level,
but I'm sorry he's not gonna survive this season. It's
gonna be a long year in Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
One thing I will give the Dolphins another thing that
I always look at with football defense, Anthony Weaver. No, no, no, no, no,
This defense is faster, they're bigger, they're stronger. Anthony Weaver
and I'm telling you, guys, Mika Fitzpatrick is in upgrade
over Jalen Ramsey's the older guy, Jalen Ramsey. Guys, Ramsey

(01:34:00):
was getting cooked by Sutton from the Broncos last year
even though we was beating the hell out of him.
And you go through the regular season there are times
Jayalen Ramsey was getting beat in one on one coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
This is where VJ like talks himself into it. I
get in, I get you're loyal. I love loyalty, I
really do. It's not gonna happen. Mikolspatrick coming on the
other side. We're gonna check in with our MOLB insider,
the Great John Paul Morosi. This is Fox Sports Sunday,
Harbin and Husky, Fox Sports Sunday. We're in the Fox

(01:34:31):
Sports Radio studios. All right, it is that time once again.
It's such a special treat for us every single week
to be joined by the best of the best. And
what he does, and that's pretty much everything he does.
We call him our MOLB analyst slash insider. The Great

(01:34:51):
John Paul Morosi is joining us right now, JP, I
want to get right to a question for you, because
we have talked over the years many times about UH
peed use in baseball and how you feel and a
very adamant that they're they're cheating the sport. You're upsetting
the integrity of the sport by trying to gain an edge.

(01:35:12):
And yet a college football program that you love, the
University of Michigan cheaters cheaters. Now now, now, yeah, you
you expel certain guys. You you said you would vote
for Bonds and Clemens, But some of these other guys
you say they are absolutely you test positive, the A Rods,
the Manny Ramiers is You're out? Should the penalty have

(01:35:34):
been steeper against the University of Michigan for their blatant cheating,
cheating the college football of its precious integrity?

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
All right, So I I appreciate this question, and I
have been preparing for it for some number of days.
Out Steve, answer this question for you right now. Here's
what I would say. Number One, I think it's very
good of the NCAA has now moved to a place
where they are not going to penalize the current athlete. Right,

(01:36:09):
so there's no postseason ban, because, as far as I'm concerned,
you should not be penalizing the postseason experience of a
kid who had nothing to do with that. Okay, that's
number one. Number two, I would actually take the opposite
perspective and say the fairy significant penalty certainly to Jim Harbaugh. Now,
I realize he's not going to be coaching in collegeotball

(01:36:30):
for a while, but to basically say that he's banned
from from coaching in college for the number of years
as a result of what happened, like that's a fairly
significant penalty. Now you might say it was pretty wise
of him to leave for the NFL when he did,
which I would say is certainly in the case. And
I think, listen, it's open to interpretation. What if a

(01:36:53):
if someone wants to say from Ohio State or anywhere
else that it was a tainted title. It's very difficult
for Michigan fans to argue against that point because they've
been sanctioned heavily in my opinion, And the one thing
I'll say, big picture, for all the Michigan fans that

(01:37:14):
were very much upset that Tony Pettiti had had taken
disciplinary actions in the midst of that season, before the
season was over, and had suspensions and other discipline in
the middle of that of what ended up becoming a
national title season. Michigan is fortunate, very very lucky that
all those suspensions took place, and all the discipline occurred

(01:37:36):
before they played Penn State, before they played Ohio State,
before they won the Big Ten title game, before they
won their two playoff games, all of those suspensions were
handled and Stallions was long gone by the time those
important games happened. If Stallions had not been found out
before then, and if he was still on the staff
through that entire process, then I think the taint on

(01:37:57):
that particular title would be even greater it is right now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
You know what, JP, I thought. I thought I thought
we was cool. It sounds like you were ready for
that answer. I thought. I thought I thought we was cool. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
I thought you was a true blue guy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Man. I can't even believe.

Speaker 6 (01:38:13):
I can't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
I can't even believe half of what I just heard
you say.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
I'm gonna let you slide on it today because I
want to ask you some baseball questions.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
But you and I my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Also too, was go driving into work the other morning,
heard you on with God leaving those guys. Great job, man,
you you were giving some real good insights stuffhen you're
on there other morning here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
So I'll give you those possible.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
We're gonna circle back to this Michigan thing you're bugging
so no, So let's talk about my Rangers real quick.
I told Steve about an hour ago, I'm almost out, man, like,
I'm gonna give him another week. The four game losing streak,
two and eight in their last ten, five and a
half out of the wild Card. Yeah, they whooping, they
whooping up on on the on the Blue Jay's up
in Toronto today. My guy Carter just hit another home

(01:38:55):
running second of the day. But am I am am
I good there man?

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Am I on the.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Right path of I'll give these guys about another week
to sit five and a half out behind uh Casey
and Cleveland right now, and still New York, Seattle and
Boston being the three in the Wildcard right now, My
Rangers still got a shot. Or should I just go
ahead and pull a plug today?

Speaker 6 (01:39:15):
I think there's a wonderful tradition beginning in Texas very
soon that's called football season. That you're that you are
free to allocate as much of your time too as
you wish.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
Okay, thank you, Yeah, all right, I feel you.

Speaker 11 (01:39:30):
If I'm being totally honest, I mean, there's still there
is still a shell of a of a good team
there and and I think there are still some good components.
But I look around and say, are they going to
play better than a team like the Red Sox over
the balance of this of the season.

Speaker 6 (01:39:48):
Or even better than than the Guardians for that matter.
I just I do not see enough consistency. Uh, certainly,
the Grom's year has been amazing and it's deserving of
a lot of praise and and gratitude for what he
has done, and it serves his ability to climb back
to the summit where he is right now in his career.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
So that's that's the positive side, that you've got someone
into ground who's special. But aside from that, I would
probably say, uh, you're you're more than welcome to turn
your attention to the Buckeyes and Longhorns in Week one
and how that now that game all plays out there
in the in the shoot?

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
All right, let me ask you how this six man
rotation would fare for the Dodgers if they can put
this together for the rest of the year. Kershaw, Snell, Glass, Now, Yamamoto, Sasaki, Otani.
How does that sound to you?

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
I mean, it's it sounds pretty amazing. Now the question
is going to come how many innings are all of
them delivering on a first start basis now fully realizing
that they've had a great beginning to their series so
far against San Diego Padres and back to back games
where they have been the better team, and so in
some ways it is the man of the station of

(01:41:00):
what Andrew Freeman was telling us all along, which is
that if everybody gets healthy, that it's going to be
the best one through thirteen pitching staff that they have
ever had. And right now, when you look at it,
it does appear to have that that aura about it,
especially if I could say, especially with Clayton Kershaw, and
we kind of remember just how extraordinary it is what

(01:41:23):
he's doing right now. He was supposed to basically be
done and and he's come back. He had surgery last offseason,
no one really knew what was going on. He comes
back and and goodness, Steve, let's let's be honest here.
If you've got a game one, depending on which which
type of team you're facing you might want him to face.

(01:41:44):
He is maybe one game too.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
I mean, if you had said before the season, if
you had said before the season, come mid August, the
most consistent Dodgers starter will be Clayton Kershaw, and you're like,
your answer would have been, you mean, he's still pitching.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
Wouldn't have believed this, And that's.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Seven and this year with a three oh one e R.
That's comeback player of the Year.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
Incredible, and and he's and if this is it for him,
and who knows if it is, but if it is, uh,
he is going out in the way that you would
hope to go out when you're at all time great.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
He is.

Speaker 6 (01:42:21):
He is not just he is not going meekly into
that good night, so to speak. He is he is
really showing what he still has left in the tank.
And uh, what an amazing tribute to a great competitor.
Will be a first ballot Hall of Famer, without question.
And and he's showing the entire world why that's the case.
And I just I want to see just think about

(01:42:42):
I get gooseb. I'm saying this right now, Stephen BJ
think about what the mood's gonna be he starts a
major postseason game at Dodger Stadium, Just what that scenems
gonna look and feel like with him on the mound.
It's just, uh, it's the way that that a legend
should have the chance to go out if in fact
to being his final postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Harvin Husky, Are Fox Sports Sunday the great JP Morosi
you're talking to us right now? Are Fox Sports Radio
major League Baseball insider?

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
The Brewers finally get.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Knocked off, somebody finally beat him after winning fourteen in
a row?

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Are and we act last week?

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
So I just want to ask again, man, because I
don't know. If I see this team hoisting the trophy,
it's just because they're the Brewers, right Like, they're not
the big market name, they're not the big fancy logo
out there. But right now they're leading the NL seventy
eight and forty five. I mean, I know they're legiti,
it's not fake. But can they really JP win this

(01:43:42):
whole damn thing?

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
Yeah, they definitely can't. And it starts. We talked about
one great comeback story in Kershaw. Brandon Woodriff is a
great comeback story too. And the Brewers right now with
Woodriff baralta priest, they seem to never lose when he pitches.
Ms Rowski looks like maybe he's he's kind of gotten
a little bit of a fatigue going on right now.

(01:44:05):
But I think in general, their bullpen is excellent, and
you just saw that the contributions from Andrew montstereo over
the weekend. The depth of this team is I think
it's greatest attribute. And so I look at the Brewers
as absolutely being a potential World Series team and a
potential World Series winner, just like you look at the

(01:44:26):
American League. And I'm here in Williams Fort, Pennsylvania right
now with the Mariners playing the Mets, and that the
Mariners have as much of a chance as anybody else.
But we could have a very unexpected World Series between
the Mariners and the Brewers because of just how good
this team has become in both Seattle and and Milwaukee.
So I think this is the year of the unexpected,

(01:44:46):
and that just enhances my confidence that the Brewers are
a legitimate World Series contempt.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
All right, JP, well you better become prepared because next
week Vj's coming after you. Man I am.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
You know, it's one of those things J where Now
in my in my old age, I tend to view
things forth through the lens of how am I gonna
explain this to my kids? You know, they loosely follow
sports a little bit. And if I say, hey, you know,
Michigan was cheating and they probably deserve to get punished for.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
What the heck?

Speaker 6 (01:45:16):
I mean that's on some level that there's there's a
base extensive fairness and and it is. I will never
tell anyone uh whether or not to uh to to
regard a championship as being legitimate. You gotta look at
it in context, just like with the Astros in twenty seventeen.
But the one thing I will say is this around
ann Arbor, I see all these people wearing these Michigan
versus Everybody shirt and listen, I love the university.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
It's trade.

Speaker 6 (01:45:39):
But but that's a little bit too much. It's like
you kind of brought that on yourself. It's like we
we did something wrong and now we're up against everybody. No, no, no, no,
you kind of you kind of brought that up.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Well for next week, but I'll just tell you JP,
I don't even know who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
Now, that's okay. I know he is. He's the best
of the best. AP and your week. We'll talk to
you next week. I love God bless me. There is
talk about love. We got love for him. But DJ upset.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
I knew he went.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
I knew he might go there, and I'm like, wow, wow,
drove my pin. I could have forewarned you. All right,
let's find out what is a trending right now? You
see that he got all upset at JP.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
JP's right, JP is right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
Wow, Now he's gonna get upset at you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
That's great.

Speaker 8 (01:46:29):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
What I know where I'm not wanting It's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Yeah, I'm not gonna VJ.

Speaker 8 (01:46:34):
I'm not gonna feel differently as I do of the
astros in twenty seventeen. I'm gonna keep the same. I'm
gonna keep it the same for everybody. You cheated and
you've got a time out, All that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
You're gonna get to.

Speaker 8 (01:46:47):
You're gonna proud about your championship team.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
Nothing changes. So why are you mad that I don't
agree we need I'm not mad. I'm just hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
I just hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
I'm not mad.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Magic Mad's a wasted emotion.

Speaker 10 (01:47:02):
You know how, guys, this guy I just you still looking?

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
You still have nineteen forty eight Benny Uster band ledially
into the National Championship nineteen forty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Hey, listen, like I said, I just I just thought.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
I just thought I knew who I worked for it.
I just thought I knew.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
I just thought I knew you people right now announce
and no, announce again? Blindsided on a Sunday, like right
before the end of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
I just know, I just stop it. Okay, see this
guy right then, he is nineteen forty eight National. It's good,
It's fine.

Speaker 8 (01:47:38):
They right, it doesn't matter nor to my championship.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Now, it's not stupid trying to be our friends now
still after all of that, Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Alright, well it was right. It's you still all right?

Speaker 8 (01:47:55):
So we're he moves in the NFL as the Texans
are trading wide receiver Mechi to the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
This is the full trade. So the Eagles get John Mitchi.

Speaker 8 (01:48:04):
They're also going to get a twenty twenty six sixth
round pick, but it was originally their own at one point,
while the Texans are getting tight end Harrison Bryant and
a twenty twenty six fifth round pick, which was also
originally their own.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
That is the full trade.

Speaker 8 (01:48:18):
ESPN reporting that with Carolina's Andy Dalton nursing an elbow injury,
the Panthers are signing raining UFL MVP quarterback Bryce Perkins
to the squad. Brown's head coach Kevin Sefanski says that
he's gonna name their starting quarterback ahead of their final
preseason game, and IFL Media reports the Bengals are listening
to trade offers for edge rusher Trey Hendrickson, there is
no progress on a new contract. When it comes to

(01:48:40):
NFL preseason action, the Jaguars and the Saints ended in
a tie at seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Still to come at.

Speaker 8 (01:48:46):
Eight eastern, the Bills are going to be taking on
the Bears for their preseason game.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
And in baseball, well, the Reds have snapped.

Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
The Brewers fourteen game winning streak, coming out on top
four to three Austin Hayes with the RBI single and
ten innings, the Brewers were down, and in the ninth inning,
Wilson Contreras tied the game with a two run homer
went into extra innings. Brewers fourteen game winning streak has snapped.
Phillies outscored the Nationals eleven to nine, and the Marlins
top the Red Sox five to three. Right now, it

(01:49:14):
looks like the Rangers have snapped their four game losing
streak as they beat the Blue Jays ten to four.
The Braves are up on the Guardians five forts the
bottom of the ninth inning, and Cleveland Guardians are down
to their final out, but they have a man on
first base. It's been all Oriols so far against the
Astro seven zero top of the eighth, White Sox, Royals
tied at two a piece bottom of the eighth, all
twins against the Tigers eight one. After seven innings, the

(01:49:34):
Yankees and the Cardinals are tied up four a piece
top of the seventh, Pirates and Cubs tied at three
apiece top of the eighth. Diamondbacks with the four to
one lead over the Rockies top of the sixth, and
the Angels are on top of the As three to
one bottom of the second inning, and in La, the
Dawyers have a four zero lead over the Padres. It
looks like a couple of home runs Freddie Freeman Andy
Pah has four zero top of the second inning, back

(01:49:58):
to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
Ye, thank you, love you man. Obviously Moncey and carry
of course coming up top of the hour with their show,
it's so hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Like I like, I'm being real, man, I'm legitimately my
feeling is legitimately hurt right now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
You know what, because.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Manzi is Mark like Moncey and I, we've we've been
doing so we've done so many souls together over the
last second.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
You know Monty as well as I do. She's not
gonna sugarcoat.

Speaker 6 (01:50:26):
And I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
I don't expect her to. I never expect her to
keep it the same.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
But that doesn't mean my feelings don't get hurt. And
then JP Morosi, I thought I had a Michigan guy
on myself.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
I mean, you know I, I, oh, he's a Michigan
guy to the court.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
I don't say that never again on our sholf because
he's not. He always has been, has been.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
Hey. I basically I had the lob right at there,
and he said he was ready to go, and then
what came out of his mouth? By the way, you
Darvish getting lit up at the Dodgers. How about this series?
Right the Dodgers stumbling they get swept by the Angels,
swept by the Angels, lose first place, down the game
to the Padres. Padres come in ready to roll and

(01:51:12):
four nothing. Dodgers looked like they could be on their
way to a week.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
I think the Dodgers are still the team. I look
at this stand is okay, I see one game behind.
I'm not buying the Padres, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
I'm just not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
You could be the better team in the regular season,
that don't matter. What happens in the postseason and what
is what's gonna matter, and that they could be the
better team. But if you can't beat me when it
matters the most, then I'm the better team. Then you Yeah,
you had a better record, or you were, you get
more talent than me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
You ain't beat me? Well, I mean, I mean yesterday,
first inning, the Padres have two players thrown out stealing
in one inning, and then see you know, one of
their best pitchers walks four guys in the first I mean,
and then and then your your young superstar Jackson Merrill
drops a ball, I mean absolutely drops the ball in

(01:52:01):
the center.

Speaker 7 (01:52:03):
Ready.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
They're not ready for this, They're not ready. Listen, you
can beat up on everybody else. But you know what
they say in sports, right, Like in college basketball, people
get up to play Duke, they get up to play Carolina,
they get up to play Ucla. In college football, you
get up to play Obama. That's why Bama can go
down to Vanderbilt and be down in that right, Bama,

(01:52:25):
we can go to Vanderbilt on a Saturday night. Now
it may not be the Derrick Henry Bama or the
two of Bama or the Jailer Hersman, but you're still Bama.
You're not supposed to go down to Vanderbilt and be
down in the third and fourth quarters on a Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
You're just out of game. He's gonna find himself out
of a jut. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
So when it comes to even baseball, when you show up,
you either are going to perform because of the team, jersey, color, name, helmet, whatever,
or you shrink and the padres show that they've been rolling.
And when they come into Chavez Ravine and they see
them crispy white jerseys with that Dodger blue, something happens well.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Three run homer by Freddie Freeman, solo shop by Pajez,
four nothing Dodgers first inning as they lead the pod race.
All right, coming up on the other side, we are
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(01:53:29):
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We're gonna break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday,
Harman and Husky, Fox Sports Sunday, the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

(01:53:51):
We want to thank our crew today. Moncey Belanos of course,
getting ready for a show with Carrie Rhodes at the
top of the hour. Great job as always, Moncey, Chris
Perfet per bet Pick is going to be off next
week something far more important. Yeah, got some family business.
Take care of Ada travels, whatever you gotta do. You
got to take care of it before the football season begins.

(01:54:14):
Shay is also going to be on assignment. Yes, next week,
I'll be hammered next week. That's okay, good.

Speaker 12 (01:54:19):
You should be your age. You should be hammered a lot.
I mean that's sort of being young the way some
of these young kids dogs. Yeah, dude, I'm gonna be hammered,
hammy hand. I'm going to be hammered drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Okay, by the way, Shay, I understand we have posted
something on our because we can account x account.

Speaker 10 (01:54:38):
None of us could come to an agreement. So I
was like, let's let's put it to Twitter. So I
put it out there. I put Josh Allen, Justin Herbert,
Joe Burrow. Obviously, you guys can think there's other quarterbacks.
But these other quarterbacks, we were saying, j thought it
was Justin Herbert. I thought it was Josh Allen, and
Steve Hartman thought it was Joe Burro. You can listen
to the podcast if you guys want to see why.
But right now, after fifty one votes, there's twenty two

(01:54:59):
hours left if you guys want to still do it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
All right, So the question again is if you pick
any current NFL quarterback to start your franchise with current quarterback,
who would you choose? Who would you choose?

Speaker 10 (01:55:11):
So the people are saying, currently with twenty two hours left,
thirty seven point three percent.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Oh, just change.

Speaker 10 (01:55:18):
Thirty six point five percent goes to Josh Allen, eleven
point five percent think it's Justin Herbert, and.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
Fifty one percent think it's Joe Burrow. It is early
have an insanely educated listening audience. Again, it's not a
slight on Josh Allen or Justin Herbert the quarterback. Who
but Joe Burrow? To me is next left? Who would
we take?

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
I just think again, Herbert's got the highest ceiling right now.
Allen's had his opportunities in years, and Burrow plays for
a horrible franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
It's a horrible ownership.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Horrible ownership. They are man that's never going to get him.
They might be worse than the Listen, I'll tell you this.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
You might.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
You're talking about Burrow asking out. Let's don't don't think
Jamar Chase is just gonna sit there and take this either. Guys,
he's gonna be a receiver of saying, look, I love
playing with my guy, but I want to get her.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
I remember the year when they had Carson Palmer and
they had Oho and TJ who's a who's a colleague
of ours?

Speaker 6 (01:56:20):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
TJ who's Mazada?

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
And they go into that Pittsburgh game at home, Carson
Palmer gets his leg crashed into Terror's aco as he
completes the bomb downfill to TJ Who's Mazada sets up
a field goal. They end up losing that home game.
This franchise has had opportunities, guys, They've had opportunities and
great players there. I just don't I just don't see it.
Even with the coaching staff there again, I think Josh

(01:56:44):
Allen has had his opportunities. We had Adam kaplan on
a few weeks ago. I asked, was Josh Allen, excuse
me their head coach? There was he on the hot seat?
Because I'm thinking, okay, at what point do you move on?
At what point do you think you might need to
move on from Sean Dermott because you keep telling me
they're gonna go to a super Bowl and win one

(01:57:04):
and he can't get to one as a head coach.
And then I look at Justin Herbert a year two
of horrorball. We know what horrorball does. I'm very high
on the Chargers, and like I said, we're talking about
current quarterbacks as they currently are, their history, their record, everything,
but moving forward from today, I think my pick will
still be justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
So thinking about this for the Bengals, so you had
Marvin Lewis as their head coach for sixteen years and
his playoff record was zero to seven, never won a
playoff game sixteen years. And now you got Zach Taylor.
He's this is his seventh year. Now they got to

(01:57:46):
a Super Bowl, lost the conference championship game. So they
I mean, they had two runs in the playoffs the
Red back to back nine and eight seasons. But again,
this is an organization that just they don't make that
kind of comit. They're just not one hundred percent in
just not unfortunately for a guy like Joe Burrows. So,
I mean, you mentioned a couple of weeks ago, could

(01:58:07):
Joe Burrow be the next Dann Marino? You know it
has this phenomenal career, recognized as one of the absolute
league quarterbacks over fifteen years plus and never won a
Super Bowl. The answer, yes, he.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Could absolutely be that guy like Marino got some one
young in his career. That's the one early and you'd
think you're going to get back, and Marino says it
all the time. You think, you know, you know, heck,
we're going to be here a bunch of times. In
three out of his first four years, Marino was going
to conference championship game. Yeah, Marino was carrying the Dolphins,
then with Duper and then Clayton comes along and yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
He'll tell you what. The year after they won the
Super Bowl, I mean lost the Super Bowl but got
to the Super Bowl, they were hosting the AFC Championship
Game against the New England Patriots with Tony Easan and
the Dolphins lost lost that game.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
That's not the only one. We had Buffalo in the
AFC champion game. AC Championship Game one time, Derman Thomas
out and we let Kenneth Davis win four one hundred
and twenty five yards and beat US twenty one to
seven in Miami. Like I lived this stuff all my life, people,
I can recite games and plays day after day tom

(01:59:14):
at the time. For every fake spike, there's a Monday
night miracle against the bum ass Jets and Chad Henning,
an offensive lineman, catching game winning touchdown passes on us
as eligible receivers. Okay, I've lived through at one in
fifteen and thank goodness for Cleo Lemon and cam Rio
who caught the slant and outran all the Ravens defenders
and we would have finished oh to sixteen that year.

(01:59:36):
That led us to get in Jake Long from Michigan
at LEFTOD. It's just Dan Marino was the guy man.
He just never had a team around them, our franchise
that Wayne heisinga lord the rest of the soul, but
he was never a guy that was out with to
spend a lot of big money for the Dolphins. And
I could just see that with the with the Bengals,
and Joe Burrow has that kind of talent, has gotten

(01:59:56):
to a super Bowl while he's young, has a star
receiver Jamar Chase. The franchise doesn't seem to want to
help him. Could he pile up all these great numbers
and and you know playoff runs they were gonna didn't
lose all the time in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
He just never got back to the super Bowl. I
wonder if anyone will ever match Marvin Lewis's record sixteen
years with the same team, zero playoff.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
Win never they fired too fast nowadays impossible.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
Sixteen years one team, oh and seven of the playoffs. Well,
we go to blayoff seven zero playoffs with zero player.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Well, either he knows somebody's really dirty secrets or he
or her are are Like, we're just saying the front
office and every o.

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
You know, you know, why why did Jerry Jones take
McCarthy over Lewis? Well, I have McCarthy won a Super Bowl.
Lewis never even won a playoff game. You know, that's
a little rough on that one there. All right, Uh,
don't go anywhere. Much work coming up, everybody, Montsi Belaga's
carry Roads coming up. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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