Steve Hartman & Vj Huskey Talk NBA Playoffs, Draymond Green, Rockies Make History, And So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Living the dream once again here on a fully loaded
Sports Sunday. This is Fox Sports Sunday once again. We're
here in the Fox Sports Radio studios. And a very
happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there who
do so much for everyone and VJ. Mother's Day is,
by the way, I will say this for my three

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adult children. Okay, you know I remember, I'll never forget
this when my boys before my daughter was born. I
think my boys are like three and two, and I
sort of forgot that Mother's Day was that day busy
with my schedule, and I ran with the boys in
my arms down to the store, got a couple of
Mother's Day cards from my three year old and two

(00:47):
year old, and then basically signed the card for the boys,
saying Dad was lame. He should have remembered this day.
My wife at the time was not very amused by that.
But anyway, is how's your Mother's Day going so far?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Vejail, Oh, thank you for having me as always being
here with you. Brother. My Mother's Day is going sensational,
and I want to say a sincere happy Mother's Day
to every mother and even the listeners, your mothers, your aunt's,
dot are mother's, your wife, your fiance, baby mama, whatever,
it is. Happy Mother's Day to just everybody out there,
all the mother's out there, and even though the husband's

(01:24):
like us that have mother's Happy Mother's Day. Tell my
mother the colonel retired colonel doctor Spaarman and my lovely
wife right now, Happy Mother's Day to you also, and
then all my friends, all my female friends and my
cousins stuff. Happy mother's dad, everybody. My Mother's day is blessed.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Absolutely, you know, my mom has been pasted almost ten
years now, and she was She's proud of you, Oh
she is. She's with me twenty four to seven. I
always will be. But here's the thing about my mother.
So my mom was not a sports fan to say
the least. And she was a little aghast when I
was a child with her aspirations that I'd be a
doctor or a lawyer or something along those lines. And

(01:59):
I had this obsession with these baseball cards that you know,
I'm sitting there memorizing all these stats twenty four to seven.
So she would hide the cards from me. She was
desperate like this, but I knew that things are good.
I'll never forget the story my dad told me so
my first year working for the Raiders in nineteen eighty four,
we had a Monday night football game at the old
Pontiac Silverdome against the Detroit Lions. Wait, football game, leaky roof.

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So my dad gets home from work. It's just, you know,
my sister and I obviously out of the house by
this point, and just the two of them, And usually
my mom was very conscientious of greeting my dad at
the door.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
It was we're traditional.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
My dad would get home from work, the kid's mom
would all greet him. So my dad gets home and
no mom at the door Monday night, right, and he
yells in the mom, are you there? You know, She's like,
I'm watching the game, and he's like games.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
She goes the game. Steve's at the game.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
They haven't shown him yet.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
She's honestly thinking, Monday night football is going to focus
on Steve Hartman, some little level employee for the Raiders
in the game. But that's that's mom, You know, it
is whatever, you know, whatever our children do, one hundred
percent support, unconditional love, unconditional love for Denise. I mean,
she's been an amazing mom to our three children. You see,

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you know adult children, and you have adult children. You
see their development, uh, and you think from the very beginning,
you're there in the beginning, and all of a sudden,
all these years pass and their development. And I make
it clear to her that, you know, I am so grateful,
yes to have you as the mother of my children,

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because you have good prowing.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
The extra mile.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And I know not every mom has the opportunity to
be sort of a full time mom, as Denise was
with our kids as I worked, you know, the seven
day work weeks, so that she had that opportunity it
made a difference. You know, all three of my kids
are really fine people. They're good people. Whatever they're going
to do in life, that's their choice. But you know,

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at the core, they're good people, conscientious people, and I
will give them credit.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
They want the extra mile for mom.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Today, and I was very happy, just an observer saying, Okay,
that's the way it should be. So yeah, I missed
my mom terribly, but she's always with me, always will
be with me.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
But yeah, if you have.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
That opportunity to really just thank the moms out there
for everything they do and you know, if you're one
of those sports fanatics and maybe you didn't have a
mom that was all into the sports, but they sort
of faked it, you know, because it was important to
you appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
I certainly did.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, always too, and if I could. There's a story
really fascinating. You talk about the sports thing and the
mom's going the extra miles. I'm in the eighth grade
playing for Bevill Middle School was the name of the middle school.
I'm playing for Bebell Middle School and I'm start tied
in defensive end special teams the whole Night'm in eighth grader,
so I'm one of the bigger kids going on to
high school. And my mom is at our first game
against god in middle school and she has a cam court.

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You remember the really big camp quarters back. This is
nineteen ninety one. Okay, she's on the sideline. She's not
supposed to be there. Are one of the main teachers there,
Missus Mac. I would never forget Missus Mac. She's the
mother one of my great friends who's a therapist. Now
Carlton Mac back East told her that she couldn't be
on the sideline. Now. She had no idea Carlton and
I were this good of friends and that this was

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his mother. And I can remember my mom going back.
You can hear it on the recording. She's going back
and forth with this lady about she's not gonna move.
I'm here to record my son Vernon, I'm not going anywhere.
The lady gets snippy with her. My mom then says, well,
you go find somebody that makes more money than you
to move me and then I'll move. And I'm like,
mom owed up. So after the game, I go, mom, Mom,

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I want you to meet this lady and she's Carlton's mom.
Come on, come on, and I'm walking her to her.
And as I'm walking to this lady, my mom realizes,
oh my god, oh my god. They play it off.
My mom tells me the whole story afterwards. They played up, Hi,
how you doing, nice to meet you, blah, and she
goes Mom. I said, Mom, is that miss Mack you're
talking to her for? She's like, so, honey, I didn't

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want to tell you the game. But that's just another
example of a mom who rushed home from the Pentagon
in Northern Virginia DC traffic in the afternoon for a
four thirty eighth grade football game to make sure she
was on the sideline to record me, and she didn't
get none of the game it got. That was my
first highlight tape was that day because it's just all

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me and I'm like, Mom, you're supposed to be recorded.
Now I'm there to see you. I'm not there to
recording mother kids. I'm there to record my son, record
my baby getting sacks and scored test. So that's my
little sports story. I had the sports mom. She she
she headed up the cheerleading team for my older brothers
Patrick Henry football team. When we were kids, they didn't
have girls wanted to cheer, and no one took it over.
My mom became the cheer coach and had all the

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little girls from the neighborhood out there. So I've seen
my mom from thicking through through top the bottom, going
through the military, becoming the Colonel of the Pentagon and
just sacrificing everything that she could for us as her sons.
Man and I think we turn out to be pretty okay.
I think I think I'm dec I don't know how
good I am, but she did a great job. And
that that's my mom sports story. How mom's you know,

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like you said, they go to the extra mom.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, one thing I do want to give my children's
mother credit for is their athletic ability.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
They did not even get that for you z from
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I was a decent athlete, but she was from a
really athletic family, right, And it was like, especially when
my daughter was in sports, I'm like, people, she's just
dominated every sport is a little girl and all these
you get the weird looks from the parents, like you know,
you know, I had zero with this, none to do.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
My mom actually played tackle football with us One Saturday.
We went out to a field and this in high
school in northern Virginia, and about fifteen eighteen got my stepdad, Glenn,
got out there with him. My mom literally got out
there in her US Army sweatsuit and played tackle football
with a bunch of thirteen fourteen, eleven, teen year old
and a couple of grown men. My mom play tackle

(07:51):
Football's story put him down. She made I think she
had two tackles, a half assist on a sack.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
I think she had a past you have a good
swim move or this no, Reggie, she had the club. Yeah,
she played tack She played tackle football.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
That's great, all right, Well, everybody have a wonderful Mother's
Day and we got lots to talk about obviously on
this Mother's Day Sunday, we'll get into the NBA playoffs
and you know, just to get started right now, VJ.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Well, first of all, First of all, I want to backtrack.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Just for a moment here, because as we wrapped up
last Sunday's show, we were making predictions about the upcoming
second round series and I shocked you by picking the
Knicks to beat the Celtics, and your immediate retort was
a typical Vjay retort.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
You want to bet on it, went bet on it,
and you know me, I'm like, I don't bet on anything.
I wish I had.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Although that series is far from over. We'll get into
that series a little bit later on, but just a
quick overview on the two games we got today, the
two one seeds City Cleveland. They're sitting there both one
to two in this series on the road. They have
to win these games. You go down three to one,
not impossible obviously, but the long odds of you overcoming

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a three to one deficit.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
So the fact that we have two number one.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Seeds facing dare I say must win situations both on
the road today? Can they deliver U?

Speaker 5 (09:27):
And that is.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Something we're definitely gonna be looking at. By the way,
that Oaks Okay, see Denver game is going to be
tipping off here in a little bit more than an hour.
Let's start right there, because I wanted to talk about
what I saw in Game three. And remember this about
the Nuggets. We were talking about going into the playoffs
where the Nuggets, you fire malone, three games left in
the season, they're facing the Clippers. Clippers are red hot.

(09:49):
You know a lot of people were picking the Clippers
to win that series, and they got to a Game seven,
and the Nuggets really showed up in that game and
then that momentum.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Carries against Okac.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
But we've been talking about this VJ about the importance
of these playoffs overall for the NBA and when you
still are focusing on the Lebron's and the staffs and
the kds and you need that fresh blood.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
And we hear about Shay Gilgess Alexander.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Right, this is the MVP, it's going to be announced
this week, will be the MVP of the league. And
I'm watching his disappearing act at the end of that
Game three against Denver, and I'm like, where is this
guy that is supposedly the most valuable player in the NBA?

Speaker 5 (10:30):
And then I'm.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Reminded for a second, okay See won sixty eight games
this year, and they won by an average home almost
thirteen points a game. And by the way, if you
looked at the Clutch Player of the Year award that
Jalen Brunson won, where was the name shay Gilgess Alexander
near the bottom didn't get a single first place fill.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
And then it's suddenly dawn on me.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
How many opportunities did he get in French time in
a close game.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
To really deliver.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Here was an opportunity and that kind of a game
in Game three and the guy completely disappeared. I don't
know what's gonna go on with Game four today, but
if OKAC is gonna live up to their high and
I've been a big defender of OKAC, that guy has
got to show us that he's not just some guy
piling up a lot of points and blowout wins for
okay See during the regular season. He's got to come

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up and crunch time when the games really matter.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, it's sticking with the Mother's day theme here. Experience, okay,
and that's what makes mothers great.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
The more you're with your kid, the more your mother,
the better you get out, the more experience. When you
have a problem in life, who do you really pick
up the phone and call to? Probably first, when the
kid falls down and gets hurt, who do you shout
out for? First? You shout out for mommy, because mommy
has the experience of what to do. And like you
just said, SGA has had so many blowout wins, he
has not had the experience to go close out games.

(11:47):
And you're starting also to see that. But also, let's
put a little more credit to Denver. This is championship mental.
We've been here. We don't need the number one seed.
We know what it's like to be the number one seed.
We got eliminated by Phoenix. We know what it's like
to be the number two seed. We gotta eliminate it
in the second round, and then we finally closed the
door and won a championship. Right, saying with the Golden

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State or some of these other teams, saying with Ball
said that championship mental means so much. You can never
count those teams out, and it's on SGA and the
rest of this team to actually look to him. I
think it's a great thing that you have such a
balanced team, but I think it could be a bad
thing in May. When you have such a balanced team.

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Who are we giving the ball to? Then? Are we
going to check because Chet's hot? Are we going to
Dort because Dor's hot? Well, guess what didn't matter if
Scottie Pippen was hot. Twenty three's getting the ball, didn't
matter if Shaq was dominating eight or twenty four is
taking the shot, didn't matter what Lebron was doing those
first few year. We're getting this thing in the flash.
We're getting this thing to number three. Don't matter what
Michel's doing. We're going to thirty three with the blonde

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hair out of Indiana. We're going to this. They don't
have that yet. And that's what it's gonna be up
to some of his teammates to say, hey, man, take
the shot. Hey we're going to you, or to go
to or for SGA to go to the coach, wipe
the board off of say no, no, bump all that
and write your own place, say get me the ball
right here, and everybody get out of the way. I agree.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I mean when we look at aunt and to people,
get out the guy. Give me the ball. Ja morant
give me.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
These are young players that established from day one. I'm
the guy in crunch time, so just everybody, and I
was watching it and like, where is he?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Where is he? Everybody's passing the butt? Where is your MVP?
About how they looked in overtime? Let's just go in
over time, they too, They fell apart because.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
And on top of that, on a night when Jokic
couldn't make a shot.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Six of twenty five or something to twenty five. In
a night like that, you gotta get that double once
again that over time, you saw who the more mature
team was. You saw it right there on the court.
It went hard to miss. They hadn't been there yet.
They gotta have that mother's experience and they don't have
it yet.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Man, all right, come app on the other side. Three
and eight. Three and eight. That is the home team's
record in the second round of the playoffs. What has
happened to home court advantage in the NBA. We're gonna
break it down on this Mother's Day. This is Fox
Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 3 (14:58):
Three and eight.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
That is the record so far in the second round
of these NBA Playoffs for the home team. And one
of the big stories obviously was the Knicks, a team
that was down, down play going into the postseason because
all season long, the Knicks struggled against the good teams.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
You know, they beat up the teams they.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Were supposed to be when if you look at their
record against teams that had better records than them. They
had a miserable record during the regular season, so no
one really thought the Knicks were going to be much
of a challenge as the Celtics. But not only did
they win once a TD guard and they won twice.
And because that, Paul Pierce, the Celtics legend Hall of famer,

(15:39):
had said, there is no way that the Celtics are
gonna lose game to at home.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
If so, I will walk to work, which is a
twenty mile eight hour walk, And according to Paul Pierce,
and he had some video shots of him in his
morning robe, make mean the twenty mile walk which is
eight hours long at least to work that day. Now, VJY,

(16:08):
are we to applaud Paul Pierce for being a man
of his work because that's what he called himself, I'm
a man of my word? Or are you casting any
doubt on the validity of this excursion that he encountered
a twenty mile eight hour walk to work.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I guess you have to take a man's for his word.
You know, it feels weird. It feels like I would
like to see the eight hour video, right, I mean
just clips and snippets, okay, fine, But if he said
he did it, fine, I'll take this route about it.
I'm proud of him. I'm proud of them because a
lot of times in this business, people will stand on

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their soapbox and say they'll do something if someone wins
or for team wins, and then and then they don't
do it. Right. So the fact that he got out there,
if he's a man of his word, if he got
out there and walked eight plus hours in his robe.
It was hot that day too. We have some hot
days here in La. Even though he's gonna cool off
this week, God is making a nice and beautiful for

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the mother's dy weekend, which I can appreciate him short
the mothers can too. But if he said he did it,
Steve cool and I'm proud of you, Paul. I'm proud
of you Pee too. If you did it, man, thank
you for being a guy that set the standard. Hey,
I will do this if this happens, and this does happen,
and then you go do it, so I'll take the angle. Love.
I'm proud of you, Paul Pierce for standing up and
making us look good in his business.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, I got a little heat last week from people
up from my Jason Tatum is a boring player.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I mean that's fine, and I like that it's still maintaining. Again,
I didn't say he was a bad person. I didn't
say he was a bad player. I said he's boring
when you when he even watched Jason Tatum when he's interviewed,
he's he's just a very straight arrow guy. I mean
he's got a knock on him. No, but I mean,
you know, let's let's put it. He doesn't have Draymond

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Green's in that personality.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
You want zest, you want, you want gumbo. You don't
want soup, you want gumbo. Let's go back.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Let's go back to bird Magic, right right, Bird was
We have now found out the number one trash talker.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
In the NBA.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean he would put it in your face like
he would like they put somebody on him, like, what
are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
He looked at what he was gonna do. What are
you doing this? Put forty on this guy? What are
you doing?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So he was and Magic just had bubbling over a
personality so many and so.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
That and Jordan have it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You know, there there there's a you know, and then
you look at it Charles Barkley and some of these
other great star players over the years. Shack obviously loaded
with personality, and that's what sort of this league needs.
You know, Steph Curry has personality. Lebron we'll get into
a little Lebron a little bit later on. Okay, we'll
say that for something else. But you know, the LEA

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is desperate for, you know, these young guys to get
that level of attention. And then you know, Jason Tatum
how to Game two end. You know, he's got the
ball and the Nicks knock it away. And so again
I get back to what I was saying before about
how important these playoffs are overall for the NBA. Sure
that you're drawing people in, you know, not just the

(19:21):
hardcore basketball fans that are there, but some of the outsiders,
the curiosity seekers. Hey, let me check out what these
NBA playoffs are all about. And somebody's gonna have to
capture the moment. I don't know who that's going to be.
We haven't really had that person sort of take hold
of this postseason, but they need somebody.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I think Donovan the Virtual has been a guy back
to back forty plus games, flexing, yelling at players down,
not getting attacked. I appreciate the ref not getting at
tech when he had to and one and he fell
and he stood up and flexed over like I do
you remember the Tom Tim Hardaway. There's a video Tim
Hardway getting and one on Charles Barkley and saying yeah
and your face like right in his faith, the rough

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standard right there. We used to be able to do that.
We used to be able to talk a little trash
because it's an intense game. I got a question I'll
throwback to you as far as personality goes, because I
said this about Aunt Edwards last year. I don't mind Moxie.
I like it. I didn't mind Johnny Manziel money sign.
I don't mind Shador Sanders with the watch. I don't
mind I don't mind Travis Hunter throwing up the Heisman
polls when he scores. I have some some big I

(20:22):
have some personality, has some swag, but I want it
to be organic. If you if you feel like you
have to make up a personality and you have to
be a character, it turns me off because I can
see right through it. I'm a guy who majored in
psychology and philosophy in school. Like that's what I do.
I'm just I'm just built that way. I'm a chess player,
I'm athodical thinker. I look, I read things. I was

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in commission serves for twenty five years. They teach you
in sales you better be able to read people. If
you want to make a lot of commission checks, you
better be able to read people. You better be know
when they're ready to pay and when you still got
to give them a little more information to get them
to pay. That's just the bottom line about self. So
when you have that innate ability about your personality like
I do. I see this with athletes. I see this
with Fleet said like Pat Mahomes, I think all the
times I say, you're trying to be too cool, Jason Kelsey,

(21:04):
I mean Travis Kelsey, Bro, you're trying to be cool.
Like you're trying to be cool. You weren't cool in
high school. You weren't cool in college. You were just
a really good athlete. Some guys Jordan, you could to
Jordan was just cool man. Patrick Ewan had cool as
the ultimate Yeah cool, Patrick Ewan had a swag about
it where seven foot coming through. Man, he got a
little person out play. Don't have to talk a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
But you can you can feel the cool off FA Honestly,
the the original cool to me was doctor j of course.
I mean, because again I have had the great fortune
of interviewing this He's literally one of the most nicest
people ever heard, you know, whether he's working, I've seen
him completely off the basketball court in a social setting

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and he's the same person all the time. But he
was just I mean, the way he played the game
organny exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
He didn't try.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
We let my game speak for itself. And that is
the ultimate cool, all right. Coming up on the other side, Uh,
Draymond Green is accusing you of portraying him as an
angry black man, and I want to know if you
are guilty of exactly that, portraying Draymond Green as an
angry black man. But first let's find out what is

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trending right now. So Moncey is here on this Mother's Day. Uh,
what are your Mother's Day plans?

Speaker 7 (22:28):
I am gonna go visit my mom when I get
off later today. My brothers are gonna go also visit
my mom. So I get to see the fam and
the babies, and uh yeah, it'll be nice.

Speaker 8 (22:40):
It'll be your.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Your your auntie, your auntie moncey. Really, I didn't know
that THEA is that? What do you call your aunty
auntie moncey? THEA?

Speaker 7 (22:53):
No, I don't think. I don't think auntie or thea.
It comes out of their mouth. One of them is
a tiny, tiny.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Little baby.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
And the other one, the other one is just saying, however,
that yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:09):
Yes, happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Ma.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
She's probably out and about right now. She likes to
get everything ready.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
You know how moms are, So even though it's Mother's Day,
she's over there getting it stuff ready. Literally literally moms.
Moms are are the real deal. So yes, happy Mother's
Day to everybody. We've got a lot going on today,
just kind of hasn't started. The NBA playoffs are going
to start at three thirty eastern, so in about an hour,

(23:35):
Game four between the Thunder and the Nuggets, where Denver
leads the series two to one.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
Then it's Game four between the Cavs and the Pacers.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Indiana leads that series two to one, but that tips
off at eight eastern. We've also got the NHL Playoffs
Game three between the Jets and the Stars. The puck
will drop at four to thirty Eastern with the series
tied at one apiece. And then it's Game four between
the Maple Leaves and the Panthers. Toronto leads the series
two to one. That's gonna start at seven thirty Eastern.
But we've got baseball going on right now. Cubs and Mets.
New York just retook the lead. It's three to two

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bottom of the eighth inning in New York.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
The Nationals are on.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
The scoreboard, but the Cardinals are still up two to
one after four innings. Saint Louis has won seven in
a row. The Rangers added one more run. They're up
on the Tigers in Detroit three zero, bottom of the
third inning, and the Giants have scored first against the Twins.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
It's one zero bottom of the first.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
We've got some golf action going on the Truest Championship.
The two leaders to start the final round officially underway
in this one, and now Shane Lowry is alone at
the top of the leader board.

Speaker 8 (24:33):
He is fifteen under part.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
Overall Sepstraca, who was at the top with him to
start this final round is one shot back back to
you guys, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Come on see by the way, veg and I big
golf fans can't wait for the PGA Golf Championship. We'll
be talking about final round next Sundays.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So we're looking forward to the second major of this
golf season one. I'm sorry Fox Sports Sunday, Hartman and
Husky here in the.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Fox Sports radio studio.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
All right, So I wanted to I'm reading here again
that Draymond Green is suggesting that the NBA media, which
I count you as NBA media because you are at
a lot of NBA games. You're not just a sideline
observer like I have been in recent years. You're actually
in the mix, So you qualify as NBA media that

(25:22):
you have, according to him, an agenda to portray him
as an angry black man. Is that on your agenda
to portray Draymond Green as an angry black man?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
That is as far from my agenda as it is
for me to ever like black olives, okay, which means
it's not ever going to happen. I saw what Draymond
Green was saying. I guess I can get where he's
coming from with certain things. But I want to talk
to Draymond Green message wise right now, because I've defended
Draymond Green so much, so many times, even when he

(25:55):
punched his own teammate. I sat in this studio and
had a debate back and forth for about three straight
weeks about that incident. What Draymond Green needs to understand
is that reputation means a lot life, and your reputation
is one of that. You you play hard, You're a
catalyst to four championships. You helped facilitate the offense. You

(26:18):
were Nate Smith player of the year. A lot of
people forget he won college player of the Year at
Michigan State. It was really good guys, and when you
get to the NBA, you don't need to be that
player anymore. So you fit into the system. What Draymond
Green needs to understand is you're old enough now, man
to let some of this stuff go. You've been in
the league now. If you're saying this five six years,
you're Jah Morant with the whole gun stuff. Okay, I

(26:39):
can see Ja Moran at twenty four having this type
of Draymond Green is in his mid to late thirties.
He's been in the league long enough. You've been around
Meetia long enough. You've made over three hundred million dollars
in your career, your father, you know, you do a
lot of really good things. Hell Colin sounding to us
podcast company. So there are people out there that like you, Bro,
just ride with the honeyman and stop always trying to

(27:00):
taste the salt. That's Draymond's problem. He's still tasting the
salt all the time, and it's getting old even for
a guy like me that supports you. Man, let it go.
That's like your cousin that keeps coming to the cookouts
talking about the same bad stuff from years ago. Like, Bro,
we forgive you for that. We know who you are,
but guess what that was three four years ago? Hey,

(27:20):
look at the kids. Look how much big of my
son Cameron got. Look how much taller my daughter journey It.
There is more honey man, that's more sweetness and love.
Then you want to keep bringing up the salt. Now,
you do have to understand the way you are demonstrative,
the way you do act when you get attacked. Brian
went horsing and ware on TV the other day talking
about this that they feel like people. There's anonymous people.

(27:42):
The leader feels he gets away with a lot after
he gets attacked. But I get it, you've already given
me a tex so you're not gonna really team me
right back up. And I've seen Draymond didn't go in
like he gets in faces. So he goes in because
he knows they're not gonna double tech him. You have
to understand what that looks like from afar on writers, journalists, radio,
TV and the hard working blue collar pain fan. They're

(28:06):
watching you stand over nine times. It's in a smaller
individual and you are a dark skinned man being very
mean and demonstratus person when you can just take your tech,
say what you got to say and then walk away
because you should be more mature now and he hasn't matured.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
That's my beef.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Well, you have to look if you create a character
for yourself, and that's what he did from day one.
This is the Draymond Green character the playing in the NBA,
then you're gonna have to reap the repercussions here, you
know what the guy I mentioned the Raiders a lot,
but the Raiders were known as like the dirtiest team
in the nfl R.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
But if you go back in the.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Day, they were dirty when they are all two touchdowns.
In other words, you're not dirty when the game's on
the line.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Right now, you're not gonna.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Do something stupid right that could cost you the game.
You're already without Steph Curry. You're in a close battle
here with the Timberwolves, and now you've taken your number
one offensive player and now you're number two defense, number
one defensive player off the court.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
What happens t Wolves take over at the end of.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
The game and just go crazy at the end thirty
six points and they end up winning the game. So
when your antics cost your team and you see Steph
grabbing him, like, dude, come on, Matt, he is I'm
trying to get back as quick as possible, they're saying, Steph,
maybe that game six, if there is a game six, right,

(29:29):
So you know you have to hold this together, hold
yourself together here and this you know, me against the
world thing, Like you say, it's.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Tired, it's hald.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
You know, either you like Draymond Green or you don't
like it.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I think most people on the outside have always said
this about Draymond I would I hate playing against this guy.
I hate this guy because he's on the other team,
but you want a guy like this on your team
because he does it.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
He takes the heat off a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
So yeah, this and really this response by him is
getting a lot of pushback because, like you said, there
are people like you that have defended this guy and
try to make excuses for his behavior and why he
is the way he is.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
And the point you bring up is really important with me,
is your your big gun is out right, your star
guys out. This is the time for you to shut up.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
There's two eyes on this team with four rings, Steph,
and you use it.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
You guys are your guys out. This is the time
for you to show I've matured. This is the time
for you to show I've grown up. Okay a leader. Yeah,
let's spin it on another Mother's Day thing when mom
gets the flu. Hey dad, hey husband, he time to shine. Now,
this is the time to show I've watched her do
the laundry, or I've watched her ten to the kids

(30:51):
or where to park to pick them up, so I'm
not caught up in the log jam at school, Like
this is the time to show that you can follow
and be what the leader was being. And when they're down,
like when Mom gets the flu, Dad steps right in
great eighties movie, mister Mom, Michael Keaton right there, right there, Guys,
I gave it to you right there. Take that and
go watch it this afternoon and the analogy will go Wow,

(31:13):
that VJ said something really smarter than the radio for
once today, this is the time for you to be
that parent when the when when the nurturing, loving parent
goes down with the flu, and you gotta pack the lunches,
and you gotta check the homework, and you gotta make
sure that the project is in the backpack and the drop.
This is your time, Draymond. And I'm and I'm trusting.

(31:34):
I'm watching him too. I'm watching I'm really almost watching
him more than anybody doing these games. But I just
want to see what you're in. What are you gonna
do when your big guns down?

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Here it is and well you're feeling going back to
what I said before, which player has become the player
of these posts playoffs?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
It's straight, it's straight, Oud.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Green agree for all for all the wrong reasons, all right,
coming up on the other side, that we have plenty
of MBI. We had to get to again with these
four playoff series we got going on right now, including
two big games today where the number one Seeds desperately
need wins on the road. But we also have to
mix in a little NFL, including the sudden retirement of
one of the prominent quarterbacks in the National Football League

(32:16):
and what it means for maybe another quarterback we'll explain.
This is Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Radio, Hartman and Husky here Fox Sports Sunday again. Happy
Mother's Day to everyone out there. We're in the Fox
Sports Radio studios. So big NFL news yesterday, Derek Carr
announcing his retirement.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
By the way, I heard our compatriot TJ.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Huschmann Zada congratulating Derek Carr on a very fine career,
not a Hall of Fame career, but a fine career.
But also he was angry at him for walking away
away from thirty million guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
He goes, you don't do that. I mean, he's about
that money. I've met TJ personally. Tja's about that money.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well, I mean he says he had a fully guaranteed
thirty million coming up here in twenty twenty five. He
literally plays one second of one game, and he's got
thirty million dollars and that's fully guaranteed, and he walks
away from it. Now do the Saints of favor Absolutely.
I don't know if there was some kind of arrangement.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I hope there was.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
You know, some of the guys were speculating at least,
you know, give me ten million or something to walk away,
and you know, give you a relief obviously by retiring
and walking away from that thirty million. Here's one thing
I will say about Derek Carr quickly. When he was
at Fresno State, he actually made my final Heisman ballat
his senior he had a phenomenal year.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I did an interview.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
You know, when you're interviewing college athletes, he not sort
of a mixed bag.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Every once in a while you'll do an interview.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I remember the first time I interviewed RG three after
his first game of his heisman year and walked away like, Wow,
that guy's impressive. Okay, that's an impressive kid. And same
thing with Derek Carry, who was already married.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
He was just you could hear a level of he
was like a man.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know, and you know, and so I don't know
any reason to dislike Derek Carr. I think he played
on predominantly bad teams and did his best. You know,
so it's not a Hall of Fame career. But now
all of a sudden, you look at the Saints situation
and they're trying to tell you about what we've got
Spencer Rattler, and now we got was a shuck Tyler.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Shuck is how you pronounce it.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Actually it looks like shuff or rougher, but it's actually
pronounced shock. The seven year he'll be twenty six years
old in September, this guy they drafted in the second round.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
They even talk about Jake Hayner.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
And I'm like, okay, when is Aaron Rodgers going to
enter the conversation for the New Orleans Saints in a
winnable division?

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
This is not like going to Pittsburgh and try to,
you know, knock heads against the heavyweights in the AFC North.
This is a division. And by the way, you got
Kellen Moore, you know, a very respective former NFL quarterback
and everything else. Why are we not talking about the
elephant in the room that Aaron Rodgers could be in

(35:18):
players should be in play if he wants to continue
his NFL career as the next quarterback of the New
Orleans Saints.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I don't think this division is as winnable as people
think it is. Really who's Who's I think Atlanta is
gonna be much better. Their quarterback is now Michael Pennicks junior,
absolutely in the trench. I love the young receivers, the
young tight end and Pitts. And then you got Drake London.
You got that running back at Bijon. That defense played
really well. Raheem Morris has done a really good job
coaching there. And then let's flip over to Tampa. Tampa's

(35:45):
building something there. Tampa's got a good defense.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Is Tampa gonna get any better?

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Though?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I mean, I agree with you about Tampa's solid Baker
Mayfield obviously a steadying force.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Now quarterback Pennix. Look, you know I'm a Penis fan.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
When the heistsman two years ago, Uh, and the guy's
got a rifle for an arm, Tampa bands receiver. We're
not talking about any teams. They're gonna roll off thirteen
wins next season.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well, we don't know, though. We didn't think the Minnesota
Vikings would roll off fourteen fifteen going into this year
with JJ McCarthy and then Sam Darnold being interest you
just don't know. And then let's not forget about my
man right from out here in California modern day high school,
My man b why, my man b Why down in Carolina?

Speaker 5 (36:25):
I Am not giving up on Bryce yet.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
You go, you gotta put talent around him. And that's
what they're doing though. They're putting talent around him, and
we'll see what it does this quarterback because this coach
that was the quarterback coach with dolphinsive coordinator at Tampa
before he got there, is the guy that got Baker.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
May you know, we're gonna get into the Browns coming
up in the next hour, but you know they're talking
about the Saints right now where they're looking at these
three quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Obviously what he got he got nothing.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
And then everyone's like, yeah, Saints or tanking because the hometown.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Kid, arch Man tank, I tank and I'm against taking.
I'm against tanking when you can get a hometown kid.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Especially arch Manning his grandfather Archie Manning Green Saints.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
I mean, does it not make sense?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Oh my goodness, gracious he'd break Jersey sales. Oh, he'd
break Jersey sales before he ever took the field.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
He grew up in that New Orleans area, and I
tell you.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I had a chance to stay championship down there, right
so I uh, you know the Zurich Golf Classic before
it became a team competition.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Three straight years Fox Sports Radio sent us down to
New Orleans. It was unbelievable. Like Amerald had his restaurant,
would treat us on all that.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
But we had the first year we did.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
This, I was there with the Hockey Hall of Famer
Jeremy Ronick Jr.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Was doing the show with me that week and we
went down there.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
He played in the pro am, but we got invited
to the Manning.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
House, the actual house that the boys.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Grew up in in New Orleans, this classic house. Archie
always a great host, and all of the brothers were there.
It's so funny. Paid Manning. I will say this about Peyton.
The Paid Manning you see on TV is not really
the Peyton Manning. He has created an on screen character
for himself.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Okay, entertaining. He's very funny, really good.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
But in probably he's not quite that the one guy
that is exactly who he is? Is he like the
picture of this. So we're outside in this huge backyard
area literally where he grew up as a little kid,
right in New Orleans. And so Jeremy, Reronick and I
are eating with have a couple of beers with Eli
just having beers and he's just the regular guy, right.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
So we're like, so when you are you staying in town?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
He goes, no, I'm staying here at the house here
and they go really he was like, well, he goes, that's.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
My old room.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Like they have a leg at the back.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Because he was the little guy, right, He goes, yeah,
I just stay there. I go, so does Peyton stay?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
He is no, exactly but Eli just absolutely the I
loved I love love, love love love.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
He's not a hall of fame, but I mean he's
love love love Eli.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's not a hall of famer to you.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Okay, you know, we talked about Derek Carr four Pro Bowls.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
In reality, Derek Carr was named one Pro Bowl.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Okay, he three times got in as an alternate, twice
as the number six quarterback. In other words, the third
altared it when three quarterbacks bail out and Eli Manning again,
four time Pro bowler is actually a two time pro bowler.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
So two Pro Bowls, zero.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
All pros, never got a single vote for anything, and
you win two Super Bowls. And my argument is, well,
we have a guy like that, his name is Jim Plunkett,
and he's never gotten a sniff of the Hall of Fame,
and so how do you engauge that in terms of
I can qualifying yourself?

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Okay, well, then where do you set the bar? I mean,
where's the bar?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Because if you have the Tom Brady's, and you have
the Johnny Andases and the Joe Montanas and.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
That level of quarterback, how far do you go? As
quick as I can? Said North, because you got eye tests.
We could throw all the numbers out, but there is
an eye tests, in my opinion, that should matter when
you're talking about these topics.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
All Right, dude, the Cleveland Browns have a future Hall
of Fame are on their current roster. We're gonna break
that down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, rolling along on
this Mother'sday Sunday. Hide all the moms out there, Hope
you're having a great day that you absolutely deserve.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
This is Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
And once again we're here in our Fox Sports radio
studios here in southern California. It has been record heat
over the weekend, all up and down the coast. I
mean San Diego yesterday reporting a record high for this
date and so and then it's gonna cool off a
little bit for Mother's Day, though the heat is on.

(40:37):
So hopefully you're enjoyed wherever you are across the country,
around the world listening to us, a very happy Mother's Day.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
More than a little bit. It's gonna be the high
sixty nine on Wednesday, I know it's really it was
one o four in Encino where I lived yesterday, all right,
it was one oh four legitimate. I got in my
car and I'm like, wow, my car is sitting in
the sun, and said, no, it's the people are at
the pool in my complex and no one's been at
the pool. And I hear the splash and I look around,
you know, the corner where I live, like about four
five people up in the pool. It's hot today. And

(41:04):
then I look at the west. Okay, I'm going to
the pool this week. No I'm not. No, it's gonna
be saying it's gonna be bad. There's sixty nine on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, twenty degree dropped tomorrow, so I mean it's gonna
be something else. So anyway, for whatever reason, very hot
in Sokel on this Mother's Day weekend. All right, We
got about a half an hour away now tip off
of the game between the Nuggets and the thunder Cano's
case sixty eight win, OKC survived. They need a win
on the road against the Nuggets, and as I said earlier,

(41:36):
Shay Gilgess Alexander is going to have to show up
in big way for them to win that game on
the road against the Nuggets. We are talking some NFL
right now, and so we have the rookie mini camps
around the NFL, and of course all eyes are on
Cleveland as their two rookie quarterbacks showed up, Dylan Gabriel
and Shduer Sanders. And what cot the eye of a

(41:58):
lot of people was it was Dylan Gabriel getting a
few more snaps early on than Shudor Sanders. And well,
he was technically a third round pick and Shador was
a fifth round pick, I guess.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
But I thought both of these players.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Do we have the sound still, Shay from the two
of Dylan Gabriel and Shud Or standers.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
See if you can find that sound. But I thought
I thought both of them spoke said.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
The right words. Let's put it that way. You know,
as rookie quarterbacks coming into the league. Look, you're just
looking for an opportunity. You show up in an NFL
training camp. I don't care what kind of hype you
have at college. It's reality.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Like I'm playing with the men now, like these are
the big boys, and.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Those veterans are looking at you like, yeah, okay, kid,
I don't care what you did in college. Nobody cares
what you did in college. I was a great player
in college too. You get to this level, it is
survival of the fittest. And if you don't treat this
as a job, if you don't understand the work it
takes to become an NFL player and more importantly, stay

(43:02):
in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Let's hear first from Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
I think it's so early, you know, for me, I
said that in a sense that I only know one
way to prepare.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I only know one way to work, and that.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Is as the starter. You know, I played a bunch
of ball and have a lot of experience, so I'm
gonna use that to my advantage. But for the most part,
I can't say that right now. I gotta continue to
dominate the moment and have great practices as you build
upon that.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You know, I still look.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Forward to meeting my new teammates, you know, the vets
on Monday, So I think that'll be a question down
the road. But I think every day I approach is
like I'm gonna go get that rep. And you know,
I live it like that.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
All right, sixty three starts and is a long collegiate career. Oh,
let's hear from Shador Sanders.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
Thank you for saying that. Because I don't like my job,
here is an approved people roll, right, I prove myself right.
That's that's that's I and I fully self belief with
those people say that's that's just the opinion. So I
don't truly care. They don't really live in my mental
space about that type of stuff. Really didn't do anything
for me.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I like what both these guys had to say.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I love shirdor Sanders saying, you know, I'm not to
prove people wrong. I'm here to prove myself right of
what I believe in my abilities.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Mean, you know, it's forget the outside noise.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I'm not listening to them. I got I gotta make
good with myself. I mean that is most important. So
I like what both these guys had to say, and
I think it's gonna be very entertaining to see these
two young guys, you know, compete for a job absolutely
in the NFL. They both come with amazing credentials out
of the collegiate game. I know they both can play

(44:43):
this game at a very high level. I have no
doubt about their abilities. The question is the winner of
this battle. Is that gonna be the long term answer
for Cleveland or are we just gonna look back five
years from now saying, hey, remember that training camp, but
where were the guy?

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Was that Dylan game?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
And oh that's like Shad or Sanders whatever happened to
those guys? How do you think this is gonna play out?
Is this a battle for ultimately who is going to
become the quarterback moving forward for the Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Absolutely, Flack goos the backup. Flack goes your insurance polic
flacoes your insurance policy. If I'm this coaching staff, these
are the two kids that are battling out for opening
day in the twenty twenty five season. Not unless they
both struggle and they both kind of stink it up
and pre already have an up and down offseason or
up and down preseason.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
But aren't they gonna do that as rookie quarterbacks? I mean,
he paid many to twenty eight picks. It's a rookie
in a three and thirteen.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Seats, yad, But there was never any competition in him.
The minute he stepped into the first camp, he was
the starter. Okay, So but are you think these I mean,
it's already.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
A challenge getting snaps, obviously because Kenny Pickett's there. Obviously
they made a trade to get Kenny Pickett. So camp,
how much can you show in limited snaps?

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Everything? Everything, everything you have to every snap. I'm gonna
take a line for my god, Tom Brady, And it's
just like, for instance, I'll speak on myself when I
get on the air. I don't like I don't have Honestly,
it's not a shot or anything. I don't have a
week day show, right I get a shot to get
on air and entertain and educate. I gotta give it
everything I got when I come in here because this

(46:18):
is my rep. This is the rep I get. Okay,
so I'm not gonna complain about it. I'm gonna do
the best I can with my rep and then work it.
Everything else will work itself out down the line. If
you keep improving with your reps, when you get criticism,
take that in. Don't don't don't. Don't feel attacked. No,
listen to If someone has the heart and enough and
the care enough to come to you and bring something

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to you, you take that to heart. Man, you be
a grown man and say, Okay, no problem. Someone sees
something somewhere I can work on that I can get better.
It's the same thing in sports. If someone's coming to
you and saying, yeah, you only got a few reps today,
then darn it, you better make it. The best two
reps are your life. Tom Brady was eighth on the
depth chart at Michigan. He got one rep of practice,
but he said, I'm gonna just make sure it's the

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best one rep they see today, because over time, one
becomes two, two becomes four, four becomes eight, eight, sixteen
thirty two. I don't have to give a math lesson here,
but that's what both these guys gotta do and it's may,
but right now, you gotta start them at the bottom
of beer. You have to listen. And I'll be honest.
I'm us Shadore a supporter, but you know what I
would do with this coach staff if I was him.

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If you have questions about his heart, his character, whatever
your questions are, I give him a few less reps.
Let me see what you do, Let me see you,
let me see your heart right now, let me see
your attitude, let me see your true per I'm gonna
I'm gonna give you a few shorter reps today. They
don't know that I got more reps ready for you tomorrow.
These coaches got the week planned out already. They don't
go to sleep, they don't go to the room to
night and go okay, so tomorrow, this week's already planned out.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Well, I agree with a lot of what you're saying here, VG.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I do have these questions again, and I'll repeat something
I've said many times. I don't know why people are
so quick to dismiss Dylan Gaber. I don't get it.
I mean, the guy started sixty three games at the
collegiate level.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
He was at Oklahoma, he's at Oregon.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
He just rattled off defeat a regular season in the
Big Ten. That's a lot of big games he played,
and he played well in those big games. One of
the reasons he got a third place vote on my
Heisman ballot this past season.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Because again, what did you do in the games that mattered?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
You know, we didn't have obviously the playoff games hadn't
started yet, So in the big games he played well.
And again, when you talk about his stature, you just
mentioned Bryce Young.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Murray. I mean, let's go down.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
The list, Trees, Russell Wilson, there's a lot of Doug Fluti,
dog flu thank you very much. I mean, there's a
lot of sub six foot quarterbacks that have had success
in the NFL. My question with Sador Sanders is this,
And you mentioned coaching.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
He's had essentially one coach his entire life, and that's
his father pretty much.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
So one of Kevin Stefanski, one of the quarterback coaches
offensive coordinators with the Browns, is getting on him about
something they're seeing that they want to see a change.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
How responsive will he be? Will he push back?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I mean, this was the argument, we don't really know
what happened in that meeting with Brian Dabele. But the
you know, the public statement was is that, you know,
he basically ignored Dabel and his wishes to do something.
I mean, we don't really know what happened in that room.
Obviously Dable wasn't happy and they've made their choice. We'll
see what happens with Jackson Dart, but that, to me
is going to be the big question one. Stefanski, one

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of the offensive coaches of the Browns, grabs him and says, look, kid,
you know we we do things a certain way. We
need you to change this. How will he respond?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I mean I can't I can't tell the future. I
don't know how he will respond. The way I hope
he responds is like a young mature man that's trying
to prove to himself. As he mentioned, I don't have
anything to prove to anybody. I have something to prove
to myself because your biggest competition is in the mirror.
My biggest competition is in the mirror. It's no other
radio guys, no other producers, no other engineer guys, no
other nobody anywhere else. It's it's me. It's me in

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the mirrors VJ. Vernon Husky. So that's what he's saying,
and I can appreciate that because that's something then I've
had to learn. You're not in competition with the world man,
You're in competition with yourself. Kobe Bryant is one of
my favorite athletes all the time, used to say, I
are you better than you were yesterday? That's the goal
to be better. I don't care if it's by one throw.
I don't care if it's by one snap, and it

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doesn't matter. Were you better than you were yesterday? And
that shows improvement. I think Kevin's Stefanski and I believe
Ken Dorsey is also is also there if I'm not,
if I'm not mistaken right now too. So here's a
guy who's won a national championship for the Hurricanes. Was
in UH Buffalo. It had Josh Allen like he's been
around big personalities or star type players. What I would

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hope is that he takes it and he grows with
it and goes with it. But I also hope the
coaching staff knows. Okay, it's like parenting, right, You and
I both parents. You can't parent all your kids the same.
You have three right, You're right. You love them all
the same, but you have to parent each one differently.
Jimmy Johnson was famous for saying, I can't coach the
backup guard the way I coach Troy Aikman. Troy Aikman

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might be able to those off in the meeting, he's
Troy Aikman. It's just it's life, guys, It's the way
it is. But that backup guard when he wakes up,
Hey Johnson, he wakes up telling me he's cut. When
that guy wakes up telling me he's cut, but he's
not gonna say, Hey, when Emmett wakes up, tell EMMITTT.
Smith he's cut? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 10 (51:14):
No?

Speaker 5 (51:15):
So I always love the stories about Bill Parcells and LT.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Right right, I mean, and the rest of the Giant
players under understood.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
There are LT rules and the rules for he could
be two minutes late to the will, he could be
two minutes late to the meeting. Why because are you
gonna do it?

Speaker 5 (51:31):
And that's the genius of a Bill Parson?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Are you gonna from the entire game on Sunday? The
way LT is? You're not okay? So sit down and
be quiet.

Speaker 10 (51:38):
I have from first hand knowledge in asking the man himself,
Barry Sanders would sleep during film study. I'm for sure
he nobody's nobody's touching Barry Sanders on the roster.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
And you know what, that's the first time I've ever
heard that in my entire life. I've never heard that
Barry's it And there's a perfect is it? In my opinion,
the greatest, pure, pure running back does God ever created,
was Barry. I mean, he's the best running back, but
as far as just give him the ball and let
him do him, that's all that was Sanders.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I don't know who the running back coach was for
the Lions in those days matter because that's what we
Just hand him the ball, you do whatever.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Who's better stands' backup? Guys right right there?

Speaker 5 (52:18):
It is so to me is going to be the
test and and and hopefully he will.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I'm sure. Look, I'm sure his dad and.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
No one cares more about your door than he's going
to explain to him, son, Son, this is the NFL.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
This is the NFL.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Even he had challenges Dion coming into the NFL Superstar
out of Florida State. He goes the Atlanta Falcons and
he is introduced to the National Football League.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
All right, we we believe in you.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Obviously, we just may do the fifth overall picking the draft,
but we're gonna have to tweak a little bit, so
I'm sure, he said, Look, this is this is how
it plays with.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
The big ball. Tweak a little bit until twenty one
gets on and then on the field. Then when you
saw what one can do with the Jerry Curl hanging
out the back of the.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Helmet, what's sa getting back to the LT once you
prove it? Okay, you're that Okay, bye bye. You just
do what you want to do. Okay, but that's not
a luxury for a lot and certainly not for a
fifth round pick in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Trap.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
All right, coming up on the other side, I'm gonna
switch gears on you again, BJ because you know.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
How I like to do this.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Uh, We're gonna have John Paul Morosi been to join
us in the next hour. But I need to bring
up a baseball story for you, and the reason being
is you're only good as good as your weakest link,
and right now, Major League Baseball has a historical weak link.
Going interesting, What is happening and what can be done?

(53:49):
To rectify the situation in Colorado. This is Fox Sports Sunday,
Steve Harvin, BJ Husky. Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We are
in the Fox Sports Radio studios and we are about,
oh about eight minutes away tip off between the Nuggets,

(54:09):
and okay, see the Thunder and the Thunder even up
this series because if they don't down three to one,
that's a tough hill to climb against the team just
two years removed from winning the NBA Championship.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
So we'll be all over that game as soon as
it tips off.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
In the meantime, we've been talking some NFL on this
Mother's Day, but I want to get to a Major
League Baseball story because history was made yesterday in a
big way. The Colorado Rockies have now matched the nineteen
eighty nine Baltimore Oreos. Remember the team started zero to
twenty one that year. Yeah, the worst thirty nine games

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start in the history Major League Baseball dating back to
nineteen hundred. The Colorado Rockies are six and thirty three
right now, six and thirty three. By the way, before
the game, their general manager gave Bud Black the thumbs up.
I have known Buddy Black for twenty years going back
to when he was a pitching coach for the Angels
when they won the World Series. Nine years is the

(55:07):
manager of the Padres. Now nine years is the manager
of the Rockies. By the way, in those eighteen years,
he's only had four winning seasons. So I don't know
what Bud does. He's a great guy, but he just
finds a way to keep his job. But he gets
literally an endorsement before yesterday's game against the Padres, and
then they go out and lose twenty one to nothing.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
They have a kid.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Pitcher in his second major League start, throw a complete
game shutout in a twenty one to nothing game. It
was the first time in one hundred and thirty five
years that a team had scored twenty or more runs
and their pitcher had thrown a complete game shutout. It
had not happened in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Since eighteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
This is the most runs given up in three consecutive
games by a team since the nineteen fifty Saint Louis Brown,
So we are literally talking about historic team. Last year,
the Whiteslocks lost one hundred and twenty one game. Right now,
the Rockies are on pace to lose one hundred and
thirty seven games.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I was gonna ask, I think the records one the
record So.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
They broke the mazing Mets. First year, they lost one
hundred and twenty games. Last year, the White Sox lost
one hundred and twenty one. The Rockies right now in
pace to lose one hundred and thirty seven games.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Call it right now? Do they break it or not?
I'm gonna say they do me too.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
This is and the general manager before the game, before
this twenty one nothing blowout, was like saying, you know,
I really think we're gonna turn this thing around, Like
a dude.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Did you sign show? Hey? Did you sign Show Hey?
Aaron Judge? Like like what like?

Speaker 2 (56:36):
But at some point, when you've got a situation like
what's going on with the Rockies right now, don't you
feel major League Baseball needs to make some kind of intervention?

Speaker 3 (56:46):
How I was about to act you what what do
we do about this? What can they do? Like, how
about a little.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Of evaluation of how this organization is being right?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
They get rid of Nolan Aronado and then and then
they signed Chris Bryant to a huge contract, who's completely done.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
He was supposed to be the guy when he was
with the Cubs, he was the MB every day.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Yeah, pright out of San Diego, California.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
But I mean that was long ago, and they gave
him a huge deal and he is he's yeah, I know,
hit he won forty whatever he's hitt inghim right now.
I mean, sometimes there's got to be an intervention at
least by Major League Baseball scene.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
All Right, how did we get here?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
How how did this Rockies team get to the point
where you need to lost one hundred games plus the
last couple of years. But you're now you're embarrassing us.
You're you're embarrassing all of us in Major League Baseball,
sitting there with a record of six and thirty three.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
I don't know if they're embarrassing baseball, Steve, because I
don't think anybody cares. Man really went in baseball. Right now,
we got our eyes It's almost like the NBA. We
got our eyes on the Superstars. We got our eyes
on the on the brands, the Dodgers, the Tigers are
doing well this year. That's the brand. They may not
have a long history of worldsit but when you say

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Detroit Tiger, Sparky and Cecil, like the there's some names there, man.
It's it's it's a brand, the Yankees. It's a brand.
That's what we could carry. Honestly, I just told you
I was so busy this weekend trying to play for
Mother's Day and then my kids. It's just being a dad.
I missed that they lost twenty one and nothing yesterday.
That's how it did. It didn't pop up on my
feet and didn't pop up on my ESPN app because

(58:21):
it's right there.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Now.

Speaker 10 (58:23):
You gotta put any stock in the fact that we
were having these same conversations. Last year is about the
A's the White Sox, and.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Two years ago was the A's last year was the
White White.

Speaker 10 (58:31):
Sox, And like, look at them them right now, they're
perfectly like they're not great, but they're like, you know, competitive.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Now there's a whole lot.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Of the White Sox.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You know. Obviously much has been made of Pope Leo
the fourteenth as a Ryhard's White Sox fan.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
That's an organization that's won twenty five percent of its
games over its last two innerd games. And so they
were talking about some divine intervention necessary from the.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Thurdays around Catholic energy takes time. We'll see if it
held up. He'll be here all week, ladies and gentlemen
at seven thirty. But Chris, to your point, in pro sports,
don't we have one of these teams every year? Yea
worse the first all the time.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Oh you guys, remember your Detroit Lions didn't want to
interven to when you were in sixteen.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
They were only sixteen. I'm a dolphin fit. We had
a one in fifteen year, there was a two. There
was a two and fifteen team. Last year the Tennessee Titans,
like there's always gonna be a team. Look at look
what this year exactly? So this I think what happens
is it pops off the screen when we're looking for it,
but it doesn't. It doesn't come and grab us. Right now,

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they're up three one on the padres. I had three
runs in the first him.

Speaker 10 (59:37):
I think it's just galling when it is baseball, when
there is no salary cap, and it's not that you're
losing twenty one zero on the field or only have
like six wins. It's that you then look at the
payroll and you look at the guys they're sending down
Because that was always the thing with the white sox
in the A's is like, we're sending perfectly good guys
down to Triple A because.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
You don't want to we don't want to pay. Yeah,
and that was another point I was gonna say, if
you ask him, can the baseball step in? You guys
know these owners of NHL teams, NBA teams, NBA NBL teams,
and and NFL teams, they can't be touched. You can't
tell it either. You're telling a billionaire. You're gonna tell
me a billionaire what to do? Okay, try it. Try

(01:00:18):
Then the front office they worked for the owners. The
commissioners worked for the owners.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
You do know there was an intervention by the NFL
to make sure that Jim Harbor became the next head
coach of the LA Chargers.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
You know that was a league call.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
You know that. I went Bertie Troddle the day they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Made last year's gonna be the next card the coach
of the Chargers, and I went on the day that
they made the firing, and I said, there's no argument here.
Trust me, Jim Harball will be the next head coach
of the Chargers before and the league make sure of
it before the New Year of last year, I was
on spectrum out here in LA and I was asked

(01:00:57):
by a good friend of mine over there that was
doing a segment, had me come in and do the
second with them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Who do the Chargers hire? And I said, I have
the video. I stayed there and I ain't factly said,
there's only one guy you hire. It's jim My Man
aka Jimmy Burger's Harball out of Michigan. That's the guy
you hired. And that was before the Bowl game and
before h you know, Michigan went on to beat Alabama
and all this, I said, you're gonna hire Harball. So
I was with the Harbor train. I heard whispers covering

(01:01:26):
the Chargers this year down in so far that there
might have been some things that would that made it happen.
I did really never dig into it because to me,
it was like Jay, they got the guy I wanted.
I wanted Harball here, I love Harball, and I'm in
LA and I cover.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
All them too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
So I got a chance to talk to the man
and ask them questions. I, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
The day that it became official, why would they do that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
The day that it became official, Okay, the agent representing
Jim Harbaugh marched out of a meeting with the Chargers
and from what I understand me, calls to the league
saying I thought this was a done deal and then says,

(01:02:09):
is there are If you watch the press conference to
introduce Jim Harbaugh, Dean Spanos looked like he was gonna
throw up because you gotta pay that coach out of
your pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
This ain't this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
This is not like the player payroll, which is covered
by the equal share of tebletlevision revenue. You know, the
cap always coincides with the money that's already handed to you,
So really there's no money out of pocket.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
But he covered the South. But this guy you are
going to pay. So there you got.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
You got Jim Harbaugh, you know, the savior, best coach
you had. You know this is this is not Brandon Staley.
All of a sudden, you got a legit guy sitting there.
You would have thought you thought Dean would be speaming
like yeah little.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
He looked like he was going to throw off.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
He was like, oh, I, by the way, on the
other stet, we're going to tell you about something that's
going to come up in fifteen minutes that you do
not want to miss.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
But first let's find out.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
What is trending right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
And speaking of the Chargers, Yes, you were happy with
that hire?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 8 (01:03:25):
It was a nice hire.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Was that an upgrade from Brandon Staley to go?

Speaker 9 (01:03:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:03:30):
I mean it was impossible. Anyone who said they weren't
happy about that was lying. It was a great pickup
for the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I mean, I I will say, I mean, I know
the playoff loss was ugly disgusting, but what he did
to get that team into the playoffs, Because you know,
I was on air, I'm like, look it. I'm a
big believer in Jim Harby. His track record speaks for itself.
But it's going to take a couple of years unravel
this mess.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
And it was done in one year.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
I mean that's coaching.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
It's really absolutely absolutely so uh yeah, no, very exciting
to have a coach like that, that's for sure. We
have the NBA starting any second now, Game four between
the Thunder and the Nuggets.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
Denver leads the series two to one. At eight Eastern.

Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
It's gonna be Game four between the Cavaliers and the Pacers.
Indiana leads that series two to one. We also got
two games in the NHL Playoffs going on. Game three
between the Jets and the Stars. That's at four thirty
eastern with the series tied at one apiece. Then it's
Game four between the Maple Leaves and the Panthers. The
puck will drop at seven thirty eastern. Toronto leads that
series two to one. In baseball, you guys are just

(01:04:31):
dying about the Rockies yesterday.

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
You gotta give it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
We have to give it up to whoever is running
the Rockies Twitter account because after they lost twenty one
zero last night, whoever's running that account posted a still
shot of the Bill Belichick interview with the girlfriend, and
the caption just said, we're not talking about this right
now because remember when in the interview they asked him,
how did you guys meet and the girl's like, Jordan,
She's like, we're not talking about this right now.

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
So it's just that picture.

Speaker 7 (01:04:56):
We're not talking about this right now, right after they
lost twenty one.

Speaker 8 (01:05:01):
So give it up to them.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
But you know what, the Rockies are up right now, guys,
dole hold your breath, but they're up right now. Hunter
Goodman with a three run shot puts them up on
the Padres three to one.

Speaker 8 (01:05:10):
Top of the second inning.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
The Giants back on top of the Twins four to three,
top of the six. Marlins and White Sox tied at
when a piece. Bottom of the fourth. Astros are shutting
out the Reds four zero. Top of the fifth.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
The Red Sox and the Royals were tied. Not anymore.
Boston up three to one, top of the six. Rangers
still shutting out the Tigers.

Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
In Detroit five zero, bottom of the seventh inning, about
to start. The Brewers just took the lead from the
Rays three to two.

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
Top of the fifth inning.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Cardinals with the six to one lead over the Nationals.
It's the top of the eighth inning and Saint Louis
has won seven in a row. The Braves are shutting
out the Pirates are shutting out the Braves, excuse me,
three zero, bottom of the seventh inning, about to start.
And in golf, Shane Lowry is in the lead at
the Truest Championship. He is sixteen hunder part overall. Stepstraca
one shot back, Justin Thomas two shots back back to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Have you noticed a lot of pink on the baseball
fields today?

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
On Mother's Day. The umpires are decked out and thank
the catchers. Everybody's got pink on, which is phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
It would have been cool if the MLB had went
like maybe a whole Mother's Day type cat Like the
Fourth of July they put the American flag inside the
emblem for fourth of July.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
I have I like what I see here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I mean, it's it's it's it's everybody is decorated, the umpires,
the catchers, the pictures, players, everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
It should be league wide. This is what if you're
playing on Sunday, just.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
Like Jackie Robins. They do this a lot throughout the season.
It's nice in baseball because no other team really does
it like.

Speaker 8 (01:06:43):
That, or no other sport does it like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Man like you should.

Speaker 8 (01:06:46):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
I guarantee every one of these guys has some mother
everyone I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Guess, right end, every one.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Of these guys. Hi, thanks so much watching, talk to
you a little bit later on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
All right, once again, Harbin and Husky here in the
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Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Now coming up here, VJ.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
In about ten minutes, Chris, now this this sid this
really happened by accident.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
So I am a week ago.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I'm sitting in studio pre show with Chris and he
and he throws out an over under on Shoudoor. Sanders
snaps that he's gonna take in his NFL career.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
I go, what your over on her? He goes half
and half a snap, then.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Others will he actually ever play a single game in
the National The conversation of like, you know, trying to
figure out the roster at the time too, it's like
you're gonna have to compete with Dylan Gabriel, this, that
and the other things. Yes, yeah, and then knowing of
course that you're a supporter of shudor Sanders, I decided
to take that and have Chris repeated to you. And

(01:08:07):
Chris's response is, are you trying to embarrass me right now?
I go, no, I think it's shitimate questions.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Well, no, I asked embarrassing, I thought when he said
half I said half of what like what? I thought
like like what? And a half like you get like
just half like what and a half like thirty and
a half forty? He goes, no, half, Okay, once one
pro snap this year's because your question was this year
not as regular season regular season? And I'll take one.
I'll take one snap going over, I'll take one's.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Yes, I'll I'll take well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Chris, as he so often does, he is a genius
at this kind of stuff, he decides, Okay, I like this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
So are you going to introduce some new over unders
for us?

Speaker 10 (01:08:48):
About four sitting here we got for sitting here right now.
We'll see how many of we get through. We have
not done as crazy as the Sanders one, but I
think let's start some conversations over under me too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
I love over, I love him. Quick sidebar, Chris, did
you see classical today? I know you're a bigger you
and I talk all right? Yeah, baby, Uh the trades
never had Wait wait a minute, why am I?

Speaker 10 (01:09:13):
I know I'm going to tee off him right there.
He's already giving me the death stare before I even
get the words killing him bape out of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
So I'm feeling, Yeah, I know you and I soccer
got we talked soccer on the side and stuff. I tried.
I seriously, you don't do soccer. I try.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I'm gonna I'm gonna turn off my mic so I
can still have the segment. Here's the thing, and again,
it's the number one sport in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
I never knew that about you. Here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
So in the nineteen seventies, you know, I'm one of
those old school guys.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
When Pele came to New York and so they.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Are filling up, you know, arenas because he Pele is
the number one player in the world. It was a
recognizable name, even for someone that doesn't know soccer.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
That's a name you knew.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
And I remember them saying during this explosion of sudden
interest because of Ale, that soccer is going to be
it's going to be busy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
This is fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Years ago and MLS and everything else that's happened in
this country.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I did a simulcast with the BBC on the radio
for a PC.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
We did a full one hour.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Simulcast with the BBC when Beckham came to LA and
everything else. So you know, it's been one of those
things like you know in World Cups obviously over the
years there's that sudden interest, you know, and how it
just never gives it never grips me. And I have
so many friends that are get up at three.

Speaker 10 (01:10:44):
O'clock in the summertime when we had Euros on in here,
and you still went nuts when it was up on
when like we had a last second goal, like you,
you'll watch it when it's on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
And this this.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
Is it's not about football or soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
It's about me.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
It's just it doesn't it doesn't. It doesn't get me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
The skill of sports guy. That's just shocking to me
because a sports guy like you, the skill that it takes,
the endurance, the conditioning that it takes. This when you
watch some of these guys do what they do with
a soccer ball on a pitch, that is huge. If
you never say one in person, you think of football
field's big go to a soccer stadium and look at
the Wow. These guys have to cover all this darn

(01:11:24):
land and and do it at high rates of speed
with this conditioning.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
It's just I just.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
And my daughter's boyfriend played collegiate soccer.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
I went to many of his soccer matches out there,
and I was out there for that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
So there's not a more intense fan environment either. There's
not a more environment then, especially when you're talking World Cup.
These people, this is their country. These people cry like
you've seen fans and team.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
Do more than cry. There's violence and everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
That's that's that's at every sport, individ level of some
of the stuff you see some of these UH football matches,
But as far as just the patcheantry, the the excitement,
trus me. I got crushed in here when when we
had when when Copa, when copad Ray was on the
Cooper Cup and oh that's all the different Gold Cup.

(01:12:16):
I get into it and people are like VJ. I'm like, dude,
Like if you put it on and watch it, you
really do see when it comes down to the eighty
ninth minute, the ninetieth minute, when they add three more minutes,
it's a time game. To me, when you go Peks
at the World Cup, it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
Should never ever happen, never ever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Hap.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
No, no, no, no, not at the World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
We got a little we got him a little warm on.

Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
Now that gets to me when you have Pak's at
the World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Should never. I don't care if you're out there, because
you know what they do. They basically play for.

Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
The p K.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
They sit there, they don't take any chances. They sit
on the ball. Let the clock run. All right, let's
go to p ks.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
You don't like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
You don't like that, man oh man me versus you
set the ball up if you have way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
It's like having a free throw shooting contest to side
an NBA playoff game. Get out of here, all right,
the awful, that's all right, And that's how I look
at that. On the other side, over unders.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Yes, what will they be? I'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
This is Fox Sports Sunday, Harvin and Husky, Fox Sports Sunday.
Once again, we're here in the Fox Sports Radio studios.
All right, I want to get right to this right
now because Chris inspired by his over under on Shudor
Sanders taking snaps in the regular season in the NFL

(01:13:44):
this year, the over under was a half half as
in point zero zero point five.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
Uh. And yeah, either he was going to take a
snap the season or he was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
All right, but you've taken that next level. We have
not had any conversation free this segment. Nope, with Chris,
we have an absolutely zero idea what's coming at us?

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
So what do we got here?

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Chris?

Speaker 10 (01:14:06):
All right, so I've got I've gone across here, I
got four over under some of these. It's not gonna
be as wild as that, but maybe we'll see how
actually one might be. Let's start with a simple one.
We got the NFL schedule coming out here later this week.
We kind of know a little bit about what's going on,
but we still don't get full picture. So I want
to ask you, considering there the talk of the town,
Washington Commanders over under national games six and a half.

(01:14:31):
I thought about this maybe from primetime games, but I
want to keep include Yeah, Fox time.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
Over Yeah, six and a half is a big number.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
I'll give you the games, all right. So they get
a Thursday night game. One, they're gonna get two Monday
night games. Three, they gotta get a Sunday night game. Four,
they'll get one of those Saturday games late in the year.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Five.

Speaker 10 (01:14:51):
And hell, give me one more Sunday, give me one more.
So Fox, I will do we count? You guys want
to count the Fox primetime game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Yes, that is the national that's the national game there.
Yeah there, yeah, oh, definitely give me over all right,
because everybody's gonna want to see this kid, Jayden, Yeah,
give me over.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I I'm gonna make a prediction right now. I'm gonna
six and a half's too big. I could see four
maybe not six and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
They are toast this year.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
But I will I'm gonta make a prediction.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
First of all, the Commanders obviously had a season nobody
could have predicted a year ago. And as if you
ever follow teams like this that have these insane, come
out of nowhere breakout seasons, usually in the next season
is a step back before they eventually will take many
steps forward. I will predict that they will have at
least one game flexed out that is a primetime game,

(01:15:46):
because they will be that irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Uh in the second half.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Everyone seems to be committed. Everyone is writing off the Cowboys.
Jade is too popular. He did unless he's hurt nothing.
The Eagles obviously the class of the division, and I
know there's no been repeat champion in that division twenty years.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
That's gonna change. Eagles win the division.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
I think the Cowboys will edge out the Commanders, but
I'm gonna say under.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
I got okay.

Speaker 10 (01:16:13):
Well, it's been a lot of news about Jordan Hudson
and the mess that is going on with North Carolina
and combined with the age and everything else. And they've
got the crew there, and I know a lot of
people have circled June first, where Bill Belichick's buyout goes
down to a million dollars over under full full season

(01:16:33):
that Belichick coaches at UNC.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
A half full season he coaches there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Yes, well you see me, I mean he'll you're saying
the year you have doubts that he'll leaven coach one
year there.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
No, I'm saying like it could be like I'm gonna
hang him out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I think the thing about his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, everything
seems to be wrong about what I think it was
portrayed in a way that was look better.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
Add that CBS try to exploit that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
When she said, you know, we're not going to talk
about that right now, that's because the agreement was made
before the interview. We were here to talk about the book,
right and so that was clarified later on. Then all
these reports that she was banned, and then ever in
North Carolina says she's not exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
I mean, welcome here on. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
I I agree. I think this is this is an over.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I think he's going to be there and this this
noise is temporary, noise is going to be just that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Chris. I haven't paid much attention to this stuff, man,
because I don't I don't really dabble in the stories
the outside the sports day, so I don't know a
lot of I just keep I hear about her and him,
and I heard about it.

Speaker 10 (01:17:37):
Here's a very good Pablo Tory finds out that is
very good on this.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
It's low hanging fruit. When you see a seventy three
year old man with a twenty four, it's easy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
It's easy to talk about it, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
But give me over. He's not a quitter over.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
He's all right.

Speaker 10 (01:17:52):
So we're gonna have the I don't know when we're
going to announce the NBA MVP. I think it's this week.
It's this week. So we've got Shay Gildas, Alexander, Nick Jokic.
I don't want to ask you guys who your favorite is.
But I just was looking up the voting and I've
got I want to take first place MVP votes there's
one hundred votes. There's one hundred votes. I'm saying the
first place votes for Nikola Jokic over under twenty and

(01:18:16):
a half.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one, all right,
So there's one hundred votes. By the way, we already
know Yannis finishes third because they announced the three finals right.

Speaker 10 (01:18:24):
To be clear second place. Last year, Shay Gilds Alexander
got fifteen first place.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Votes, right, and Jokic obviously got the rest.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
I mean going over. He just could be your MVP
winner or it could be second.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
This really comes down to how many of the voters
simply look at the Jokic numbers and realize this is
the best season he's ever had statistically, first big man
ever to average a triple double over the course of
the season. Over the fact that Jay Gil just obviously
led the league in scoring.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
And his team had sixty eight wins.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
So how many people will just say, you know what,
that's great, but Jokic had a historic season.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
I don't like voter fatigue, but I feel like it
will be that this year. I don't. I hate that.
I hate voter fatigue when people talk about it. I
do think it's a real thing, and I think this
year it would be silly. He had the best team
in the league, they had the best record, he led
the league in scoring. Jokic won it again last year.
Twenty over under twenty for Jokic to twenty and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Twenty and a half, that's a good number to have
good over under under and Steve under that's a really
good number.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
I don't know where he came up with that, but again,
it is that. I mean, it could be nineteen, it
could be twenty two. I'll edge over. But okay, it's okay,
it's gonna be right on that number. Let's get this
in real quick. You were just talking about the Rockies.

Speaker 10 (01:19:44):
They're about to do a three time series against Fij's
Texas Ranger. Over under wins by next Sunday for the Rockies.
Even giving you that they're up on San Diego right now,
a half game, A half game win ten seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I'll say over because so win this game and then
lose the next and in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Ragers under over under.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
Okay, maybe yes, sins Fox Sports Sunday

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