Steve Hartman & Vj Huskey Talk Denver Thunder Game 7, PGA Championship, Celtics OUT, And So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, living the dream
once again here on a fully loaded sports Sunday. This
is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are here in the
Fox Sports Radio studios getting ready for one of those days.
You got the final round of the PGA Golf Championship.
The leaders Scotti Scheffler is gonna be teen off here

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in about forty minutes, so we'll keep our eye on
the PGA Championship scoreboard. We got a Game seven that's
gonna tip off in about an hour and a half
between the Nuggets and OKC so VJ. As we sit
here on this Sunday, it's always a glorious day. We'll
get into the NFL schedule that came out this week.
We got the Pete Rose situation getting reinstated for an

(00:44):
opportunity to get into the Hall of Fame down the road.
But this is one of those days, especially with the
final round of a major, where I like to sort
of settle in. You know, you only get four of
these every year. If you're a golf fan. You and
I are both golf fans. We like to watch these majors,
and we saw Scotty Scheffler yesterday he was all up
and down, and then all of a sudden, after boging thirteen,

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that drivable fourteenth hole, not only does he drive it
on the green, he basically has a tapping for an eagle,
and then he birdies three of the next four holes,
and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
This guy is the number one golfer in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
And I would imagine we're gonna have a coronation for
Scotty Scheffler today.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
You know how the last round of these Majors go
and you got Nora in at eight hunders three strokes behind.
They're both gonna t off T forty. They're in the
last group together. I just it's not a given. That's
just my day. It's not a given. We've seen people
cough up leads and majors. We've seen guys gaff on
five foot putts. We were sitting here watching Rory in

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the Masters, and you know, before we left he hadn't
even I don't think he eat off by the time
we got off the air, but he had a chance
to milk that thing and put it away, and he
missed that short put which calls the overtime.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yes, oh, and he did win it.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
But we we they ain't have to say we've seen
this before where a big name number one in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
If it wasn't Tiger Woods, Oh, whoa whoa two thousand
and nine Tiger Woods at that point was fourteen for
fourteen and.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Major's leading going in the final round.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
He was leading in the final round in the two
thousand and nine PGA and he lost to ye E Yang. Yeah,
wy e Yang dat Tiger and snapped the streak. So
if ye Yang can do it, who knows? Maybe in
Alex Norn, Davis Riley j T posts.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Right right, these guys I think have a shot. Listen,
it's Scheffler. If you think about it, he's two bogue's
away from having a one shot lead. All right, let's
just he's two buge. He's away from having a one
shot lead. And that's if Norm's playing park golf.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Believe John Rahm, do you think ram Is at Saxo
was in great position yesterday and then he hit it
into the water at seventeen for the double row gate Exactly.
He's about to tee off right now. So those are
the two big names you got Ram at six under
to Shamble at five under. They're still a long way
behind the number one.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, but long way depending upon how the number one plays.
If I had to pick a name between Riley, you
got pots in there, and then you have a you
have Rom, I'd put some money on Rom to be
a guy to make a run. He's been here before,
he's one majors. We know about him. He's he's been
a top player for years. It's not some guy we
don't know who he is. He's coming out of the
wood work. This is a no Johnny come lately golfer.

(03:21):
This guy is a perennial world class golfer. And five
strokes you would go all come on, vj Hey. But
like I said, all Scheffler's got to do is gaff
couple of holes. Say this guy burns a couple of holes.
And guess what, we're the one to two point. We're
the one to two stroke lead right there and now
game on Pressure Major Sunday, knowing nothing else is on

(03:44):
other than this game seven. The world's watching. I mean,
you know, hard Course down there is Charlotte Man. Hard
Course is humid, it's hot, it's muggy. All right, let's
not matters.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Let me ask you a question about Scotty Scheffler, who,
by the way, he has had more consecutive weeks ranked
number one golfer in the world.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
They started the golf rankings in the mid eighties.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Only one golfer, Tiger Woods, on two different streaks, has
had more consecutive weeks ranked number one than Scotty Scheffler's
current streak. Right now, that being said, is there any
way that Scotty Scheffer, with his personality or non personality,
is there any way that he can jump off the
golf page and actually get people interested in him with

(04:26):
his dominance? I mean, if he starts rattling off majors,
will that change the dynamic ever for Scotty Scheffer? You know,
substances there, but the lack of style. Does that just
hold him back from ever actually being anything other than
a hardcore golfer.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Okay, So I'll answer your question by asking a question,
how many majors does he have?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, he has two to two masters?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, So he's got two masters, so today could be three, okay,
so it could be there. So he's got two all right,
So we can't start. I don't care how many weeks
you were ranked number one. We see this in college football,
we see this in college basketball. Even be ranked number one.
All you want who's standing at the end Tiger was
on a run run. I am not gonna be the
guy who is gonna sit here and try to put

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any current golfer on God's green planet, maybe other than
Charlie who just misqualifying for the US Open last week.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
With the Charlie thing. I love that kid. I love
that kid. It's not easy to be a Tiger Wood's son,
but he's not gonna He's never gonna be a professional
golfer that level.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Probably not, probably not, but the name is still just
gonna carry it away.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Unfortunately, it's not like the Brownie situation where they can
draft you. Seeing golf, it's an individual sport where you
actually have to You gotta make yourself, have somebody pull
you in and say, oh, you're here. And if Tiger could,
I bet he would, but he can't.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
But I'm I'm not gonna put any any walking golfer
on God's green earth right now, and that's currently playing
in the category of a Tiger Woods. Do I think
he can win a couple of You know, do I
think Scheffler can win a couple of major more?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Bro, But you're a long way away from me and Tiger.
So now I say that just to go against the
whole you know, number one consecutive week Street. I don't
care how many majors are you winning, how many attorneys
are you winning while you're ranked number one, you could
be righting.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Serena was ranked number.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
One and she was smashing everybody. Tiger was ranked number one,
he was smashing everybody. Duke in the nineties of rate
number one, Carolina unlv you'r UCLA Bruins back in it
when they're righting of those those type of rate number ones.
When you're smashing everybody right number one and you're the
last one standing there holding the trophy, then the rank
number one mean something to me to be right number
one and then losing the Elite eight to be right

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number one and gett knocked out in the sweet succeeed.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I agree it is here. Here's the thing. If Scheffler
were to duplicate the Tiger Slam, like if he were
to rattle off three or four okay, okay, that all
of a sudden, start the start the talk. But again,
if you're if you're going to get to that Rarefy
era of the Tiger Woods and the and the Michael Jordan's.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And that you've got to have style, and.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, well you like a personality, your your your personality,
guy you want.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
He doesn't have that. He just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
He doesn't. Remember we were gonna get this with Jordan'speth,
Remember we were gonna get this with Sergio Garcia.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I can name them all.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Day one of the greatest seasons of all he did.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
He got a Jordan deal out of it, signed the
Jordan deal the day the morning after he won.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
The Mass and he was twenty one at the time.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
And it looked like he was at that point.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
At that point he I remember on the air, I
was like, don't look down. This guy actually is ahead
of where Tiger was at the same point.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, I heard. And then all of a sudden,
it's like, because man, it's hard. That's why greatness is greatness.
That's why I hate the fact that we disrespect passed
greatness for what we see today. Do you know how
hard it is to win six NBA Championships, five NBA championships.
Just five majors.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
How about five, Let's just start at five. We can't
even get the double digit you got with five. He
got Brooks, Koepka with five, and Michelson has six. Yeah, exactly,
So those that's it, Trevino six. You know, that's still
a rarefied air. But it's hard to do. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Its hard to do. Let's just think about this seventeen
you have.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I know they have the PGA professionals, twenty of those
in this PGA field, we got ninety eight of the
top one hundred golfers in the world in this field,
one hundred and fifty six golfers. One guy wins.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
What right? What right?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
What?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
They all get a paycheck though, well they do.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
They all get it cut, all right. So, by the way,
we are definitely going to get into what's going on
with the NBA plays. We got Game seven coming up
today between the Nuggets and the OKC Thunder. We'll get
into a little more depth in this game VJA a
little bit later on as we get ready for tip off,
which is coming up in about an hour and twenty minutes.

(08:39):
But just a little overview as I sit here right
now looking at this matchup, well, there is there's a
little element that has been sort of talked about, at
least by me, and some other people are picking up
on this. Why hasn't the NBA announced the MVP award
so normally? Normally the way this works is the NBA,

(09:00):
first of all, I think they do with themselves a
disservice and Baseball. They announced all the regular season awards
after the World Series, like they come out in November
and like, oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
But then the NBA they actually started announcing the winners
during the playoffs. But the last two years, the NBA's
MVP was announced on May eighth, and the year before
May second. Let's check the calendar May eighteen, and I'm
thinking to myself, look, we know Shay Gildess Alexander is
going to be the MVP. Why did they not announce

(09:32):
it before Game five? It was a two two series,
it was a home game for OKC. It's a nice
situation where he gets recognized by the home fans, doesn't
have a huge.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Bear in series because it's two to two.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Now we got a Game seven and it's like, are
they going to announce a game seven. Imagine this Sceinnario
two scenarios. Before the game tonight or this afternoon, they
announced Shay Gilders as the MVP, and he got Denver
over there on the other side, like we need any
more motivation. We're probably gonna be down a man here,
but you know, our guys.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
The MVP there are gonna be down, but he's out.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
If Dever wins today, then you missed an opportunity to
honor Shay Gilsis Alexander in front of his home fans.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I don't care nothing about that. I actually like the
way this is setting up. Really, yes, I do. Whoever
wins this game today is the MVP in my book,
Whoever wins this game. If Yo Kic, if Nicola Nicola Jokic,
Joker goes in here in the game seven down a
very integral part. It looks like Gordon's not gonna play
all right. He's got a Grade two hamstring springt that
that's hard to come back, that's hard to try to

(10:36):
get out there and play with. Yes, he's not expecting,
not expects to play. If he goes out and has
forty nineteen and eleven and they pull off for one
point dumb. Sorry SGA, Sorry, bro, Like, we gotta stop
this idea that I like the awards to be a
complete year award. I'm tired of this. It's a regular

(10:58):
season award, which is true. Okay, but that doesn't mean
you can't change it. You're changing everything else. Why not
change that. No, we'll get out the award because that's
not that's not right then, because if you like, let's say, okay,
see got knocked out in the first round, is as
J stood the MVP? I'm asking is he is he stod.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes, because it's a regular season award. You got four
team sports, all of them have regular season awards and
guess what they have postseason awards. You could make the
argument what's more valuable on your resume in the NFL
being a regular season MVP or being a Super Bowl MVP.
Same thing with the NBA Finals, like we had Chauncey
Billups got in the Hall of Fame. He was an

(11:38):
NBA Finals MVP, right, big shot. That's why he got
in the Hall of Fame. He's got that on his resume.
You know, people have been making an argument about Iguodala
down the road. He's got four rings but he was
a finals MVP. Okay, But the point is is that
you start doing that. No. I the the problem for

(11:59):
the NBA is they should do what Major League Baseball does.
Don't announce the awards during the playoffs. Wait until the
playoffs are over, and then you can go back and say,
all right, here was the regular season honorees for all
the awards. When you do it during the playoffs, we
had the awkward situation when Dirk Novinsky was named as
the MVP. As they go down belly up in the

(12:20):
first round of the playoffs to an inferior Golden State
team when they won sixty seven games, You're.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Like, how did he get MVP?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
This team sucks?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Exactly. That's my whole point. I'll throw this at you too.
How do we judge players at the end of the day?
Guys like you and I have seen her and get
paid the duce. How do we judge players at the
end of the day. We don't judge players by their
regular season performances. We'll use those numbers for arguments that
at the end of the day, when all the chips
was pushed to the middle of the table and all
the money was down and there were no more cards

(12:47):
to draw, and everybody had to flip their cards over.
That is how we talk and judge about sports all
day long, so that should be included. And you being
it's like, I may Shack has one m v P
one one, but Shaq was dominant, Kobe had one one one,
Barkley got one.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Thing here here's a I don't On the other side,
I want to follow up on sure. Also, well, we'll
have much more on these NBA, but we got to
get into the end of the Celtics season. I hate
the Celtics. By the way, the next time the VJ
says you want to bet, you want to bet, I
might take him up. You could You could have had
a free unch, you said you could have as soon.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
As I picked the Knicks to beat the Celtics.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
And I only did that because olden polonies convinced me
they were going to win. Your immediate response, ses, you
want to bet.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, you could have had a free burger from I
had a little orange Fantasota.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
All right, we'll finish up with that and get in
on the Celtics future. You know, the devastating injury Jason Tatum.
How does that add of an effect on.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
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the two big names that are still within started breathing

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distance of the top. The rest of them are are
Journeyman now the Tony Fenales also there, you know a
little bit. Although he's never won a major, but Scotti
Scheffler should have a coronation today, but he could blow it.
We've seen it before again. If Whye Yang can overtake
Tiger Woods, at the PGA as he did in two
thousand and nine. Believe me, anything is possible, all right, PJ.

(14:59):
We've been talking about this MVP award and your insistence
that it would be a far more valid award if
it were announced after all the games were played. And
as I said, I don't have a problem with the
separation of the awards. You can weigh what is more important,
and I would agree with you. When we look back

(15:19):
on players career, whatever the sport is, you're more apt
to think about what they did in the postseason than
anything they did in the regular season, which is why,
of course they do have separate postseason awards. And then
it just comes down to what value do you place
on those awards. But here's the other thing. So when
Kobe was with the Lakers, and Kobe, Kobe was very

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conscious of awards that he won and everything else. And
by the way, I thought that was honest. I always
the one to go, I don't really care about awards.
Get out of here. Of course you do. You're fighting
to be recognized as the best. Thing. If we're rewarded,
it's acknowledgement that you are recognized by your as one
of the best But when you talk about someone's resume

(16:03):
in a team sport, then they talk about MVP awards
or All League or All Stars and all this, and
then they get hand, I won five rings. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. That's not an individual honor. That's a team honor.
In other words, that's not when you're rattling off your
resume and you say, well, I won six championships or

(16:24):
I won fit. No, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You were part of five championship teams. And this is
why when I like to.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Separate the individual awards from the regular season as opposed
to the postseason. The postseason in a team sport is
still a team effort. You could be the best player
and get a Finals MVP or something along that. But
I do not equate team success and put it on
the same page as individual honors. To me, they're completely separate.

(16:56):
Kobe Bryant did not win five NBA championships. Kobe Bryant
was a member of five NBA championship teams.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
No, no, no, no, no, I disagree. Oh really, yeah, yeah,
I disagree with that because you're using him as the example.
So are you saying, Michael Jordan is not a six
time finals AV. He was time champion. He's part of
the team.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
He is a He was a member of six m
championship teams. Robert Ory was a member of seven NBA
championship teams.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, okay, and Robert Rorry got lucky and just blessed,
very blessed in his career.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
He had no contribution to those teams.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
They had contribution, but they didn't win those rings because
of Robert Ry. And they didn't lose the years they
had Robert What about the years that Robert Ry was
on teams, but then they didn't win championship.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
But that's a team accomplishment.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I remember sitting there one time in studio with Michael Thompson,
my former co host. He won two rings as a
player as a member of the Lakers, and we had
Eric Dickerson in studio who never won a Super Bowl ring.
Eric Dickerson was in the studio with his super with
his Hall of Fame ring.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, and and uh, you know I brought it up.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I said, well, what my let me ask you this,
would you trade your championship rings for that Hall of
Fame ring? And he goes not in a heart beat,
and then I asked Garrett Geric, would you trade that
ring for a super Bowl ring? He goes, not in
a heart beat. You know, it's not my fault that
we didn't have a quarterback. Was it my fault that
I was on team capable of beating the forty nine ers?

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You know?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
But I was able to achieve individual success.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
There's a lot fewer of these Hall of Fame rings
than there are super Bowl rings that they pass out
dime a dozen.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
But I think that's just what he's gonna say, because
he doesn't have the super Bowl ring, and no one's
gonna trade in what they already have.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you think Charles Barkley would trade all his individual
accolades for one championship ring? Really? You don't think he said, gee,
it wouldn't have been nice if I had Scottie Pippin
on my team.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
No, if Charles Barkley can trade in that nineteen ninety
four I believe it is a ninety three MVP for
one championship for one.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Who was He was the MVP that year, and you
have to say this, he was more valuable to that
Phoenix team's success than Jordan was for the Bull.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
He didn't have a batman, he had no it was
Marlee Oliver Miller, Ri Dumas, Frankie Johnson.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Isn't the argument we can make this? I remember we
could make the argument every year that you know, Jordan
should have been the MV because he was the most
valuable player in the league, the greatest player in that
season that was I believe Phoenix won like sixty two
by yea and yeah they at home court. Okay, who
was more valuable to their team in terms of taking

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them off that team and the team's success. Was it
Charles Barcleave of Phoenix or was it Michael Jordan with
the Bulls.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well, if you take either one on them of if
they're not winning at all, that's number one. So I
don't care who gets further because I know the argument
is sometimes well, when Jordan left, Scottie Pipps still got
to I think the second roard of Easy Carmons. I
was like, okay, and because he didn't have Jordan, where
didn't he get to He didn't get to the finals.
But when he had Jordan, where did he get He
got to the finals six times and won on six lines.
So think Jordan was pretty dark important. I just think

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that if when you every player says I got magic.
Johnson when he was going back and forth with Anthony
Edwards said, hey, man, listen, I don't I don't even
respond to people if you ain't never won a championship.
I won five. He didn't say we won five, he said,
I every magic.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Johnson would have won those five championships without Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
No, but you you great player. Great players need great player. Well,
Kareem won one without him. He had big oh, but
he won one without him. Nobody else had big oh.
Yeah he had big oh. Great players need other really
good or great players. It's very rarely can you get
a guy that doesn't have a twenty point score and
his team win a championship to make him.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
My point of why when we talk about individual accolades,
championships and team sports should not be on the list.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Because you're part of a team.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Part of a team, but you're you are the reason why.
Kobe's the reason why, Okay, they won championship. Shacks the
reason why. Jordan's the reason why. You're the reason why do.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
You think that Kobe would have won championships if Phil
Jackson had not been named the coach of the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
What's on the first numb or seconds on either one? Well,
I mean without coach Jackson five of his but without
Phil Jackson, him and Shock was getting swept.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
They were getting swept with Del Harrika. So that's the
other point. Now, you got the coach factory, right, but
the coach teammates, so you can't do It's not an
individual honor. So do the coach. Can the coach say
I won? Or does he have to say, well, that's
the only thing he has on its resume as a coach, right? Yeah,
the only thing you could go by with a coach
is how many games you win, how many championships? Right?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
So why can't it be like that for the players
to just because you got on the teammates out there's
not It's not Kobe or Jordan of these great players
fault that the NBA doctor Natesmith put five players on
the court. He could have made it a one on
one game, but he didn't. He made it five. So
you gotta have a you gotta have a dog. You
gotta have a big dog. You gotta have a SuperStar's
you even have a shot eighteen sport.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's not like golf. It's not like that's where you're
out there by yourself and you can take one hundred
percent credit when you win.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
The only sport I will I will put that to
is baseball, because you can have like a dominant pitcher. Right,
you can have Randy Johnson, you can have Roger Clemens,
you can have Nolan Ryan, and you have a mayor
out of Rovere. Right that the greatest closer, Dennis Extra Lead,
Trevor haff Me and these closers. But kind of need
a really good shortstop, might might need a really good

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center fielder. Might want to have a really good left
fielder with a strong arm. Might want to have a
really good leadoff guy. I could get on and those
on the bus like, that's the only sport I would go.
You can't go, well, the Yankees. The Yankees quarterbacks, the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You don't have a quarterback. You don't have a shot.
You have had great quarterbacks who put up prolific numbers
and they have no defense.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
But that's rare. That's Dan Dan Fouts with the Chargers
back in the day. Eric Corey Rolling was really good.
I don't know if I ever called Dan Felts a great.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Quarter rush the record book three years in a row.
I get it with Air Corrio.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It was the number one offense that we had ever
seen at that point.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Mike mean, Daniel did that say.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Right exactly when you're losing gains forty four to thirty
seven and you're like, well, you're a loser, Like I
was a loser. I threw four touchdown back.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
For the most part, I mean super Bowl winners, there
have been like fifty eight, fifty nine, right, like fifty okay,
Dann Marino, I would say, because forty eight, I would
say at least forty five of those Super Bowls are
because of the quarterback that was on those starts.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
But here's the there, and people like you take quarterback
and you ask great quarterbacks, who is the best quarterback?
You know what most guys say, Dan Marino, Dan Marino,
man hero super Bowl. We played it in seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Lost to the Niners.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Never had a running game, defenses were inconsistent, never had
a thousand year rush. Actual Hall of Fame quarterbacks, who
is the best you've seen? And they'll say Dann Marino.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
But that's an anomaly. That's one guy out of fifty nine.
That's one guy out of fifty nine super Bowls. Like,
for the most part, there's a Mahomes, there's a Brady,
there's an l Way, there's an Akman, there's a Peyton,
there's a far I mean, come on, I just named
like twenty five of the winners right there super Bowls.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Right there, you were Dilferd. There's a Nick Foles.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Right there, there's a Brad Johnson. But once again, there's
been fifty nine winners, right my favorite forty five. I'm
curious forty five of them were won by great quarterback.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
My fatherite is dilfer because Dilferd is he only got
to win a Super Bowl and get released and get.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Released by his team after winning the Super Bowl because
he was.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Got release pretty quick. He was he was just a
stopcat guy in the playoffs and there he got released
after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
In anybody, I don't want to use anybody, Chris but
not anybody, but anybody at quarterback that was competent and
just didn't turn the ball over was gonna win with
that Ravens defense. We've heard, We've heard Ray We've heard
Ray Lewis say it we've heard ed Ree said, they
said they used to go to him and say, look, yeah, difference,
give us thirteen points. How how many you to a quarterback?

(25:02):
Give me thirteen points and will win today.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Let me ask this if Matt's like, because you bring
up Dan Marino and you bring up a lot of
guys talk about how Dan Marino is their favorite quarterback
for guys to play the league. That was for a
lot of guys in this past generation. Matthew Stafford. Now,
if Matthew Stafford hadn't won a ring with the Rams,
suddenly like that's I think this is talking to.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Every year record Stafford put up a lot of numbers.
Because I'm not saying that he doesn't have great throwing ability,
because he does, but he biled up a lot of
numbers in garbage time. Let's face it with your team
when your team is losing all the time. And yeah,
he also had Megatron, but Joe Montana didn't have Jerry Rice.
Not for the first dude, he's that argument and what's

(25:54):
he got? What's what's he had? All these years?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Marvin Harrison, Reggie did anyone predict that Reggie Wayne and
Marvin Harrison were going to be stars.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
You know, made him stars. It's the same thing about
Tom Brady. I'll give you that, you know, and Matt
Stafford made a star out of Megatron. Yeah. About the
fact that Tom Brady remade Randy Moss as a star
after he disappeared in Oakland for two years and completely
fall off the mount.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
He didn't remake Randy. Randy.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
We know, Randy still have to have a quarterback to
put the ball in your hands.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, he didn't remake Randy. Randy just took a year
and a half off. He didn't Randy because Randy just
shut the.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Face of receiver. If you don't have a quarterback that
can at least throw the ball in your vicinity, that
was the problem for Randy with the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
We're on fire early. I feel like, are you going
to race this show today? Manzi?

Speaker 6 (26:44):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Are you today?

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
You know, just Dandy, So you're decked out with your
Dodger cat.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
They can't beat the lowly Angels. Who the hell's going on?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
You really can't. But here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Everybody wants to bring their best a game when it
comes to playing the Dodgers, of course, and it's baseball.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
It's baseball.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
All I know is this. I'm watching the Dodge. I
was at the game Friday night, and then yesterday. This
was an Angel team that came into this Freeway Series,
as they call it, with the lowest batting average in
the league two fourteen doctors had the number one at
two seventy two.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
And it was like batting practice yesterday Kershaw, you know.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
But it's okay.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
We were just excited to have Kershaw back. Well, you
and it's early in the season. The Angels were gonna
win some games eventually. It's eventually, you know.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
I'm just happen to be against us down the freeway.
It's okay, Yes, So I'm.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
Wearing a LA hat to see if I can inspire
them to not get swept.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
That would be good. But we'll start in baseball.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
You know, Raphael Devers doesn't want to play any position,
not first base.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Not outfield.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
He doesn't want to do anything. He just wants to
designate hit. And you know what, he's not doing too shabby.
He actually is it a Grand Slam today already for
the Red Sox.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
But they are tied against the Braves. It's four to
four bottom of the fourth inning.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
About to start all Rangers so far VJ against the
Astros three zero, bottom of the sixth.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
In me there the Nationals are shutting out the Orioles.
Who Orioles? What happened from last year to this?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Last two years?

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Good?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Last two years?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Team win team And I saw, I said, whoa yeah
were they?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
And they and the idea was this young nucleus of
potential superstars and the others set for the future.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, and you don't.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Know they just man, what baseball has he just said?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Right?

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Year to year year year National seven zero against the
Orioles in Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
In fact, CJ. Abrams has already homeered twice in this one.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
The Tigers have a two to one lead over the
Blue Jays bottom of the fourth inning. Raise up on
the Marlins one zero bottom of the third and the
Cubs on the scoreboard. First against the White Sox. It's
one zero, the Pirates and the Phillies are scoreless top
of the fifth inning. But baseball Today's suspended Phillies closer
Ho said about ill eighty games without pay after he
tested positive for.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
A performance enhancing substance.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Alorado would also be ineligible for the postseason should the
Phillies make it.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
They said that he got this, they Dombrowski, the g
on there, that he got it from a diet product.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Sure he did, Sure he did.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
In the NBA Game seven of the Western Conference semi
Finals from Oklahoma City between the Thunder and Denver tipop
is at three thirty easterns, about an hour away. This morning,
ESPN reported that Aaron Gordon denver Ford was gonna need
several weeks to recover from his left hamstring string, making
it physically improbable for him to play today.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
The latest reports, according to David Adelman, is that if
he can go, he's gonna go.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
That's who he is. Real toughness there. It's very tough.
He can get hurt in the way. But apparently they're
gonna see how he does in pregame warm up.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
But if he can go, Aaron is gonna go. Is
the latest.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
There is another Game seven today, but it's on the ice.
Panthers will be taking on the maple leaves with the
puck set to drop at seven thirty eastern. And yes,
Scottie Scheffler caught fire yesterday at the PGA Championship.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
He is set to tee off soon.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
He's at the top of the leaderboard, three shots ahead
of everybody else, but he is eleven under part over all,
back to you, guys, we.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Ever win another cup? The last cup the least one
in nineteen sixty seven was the last year of the
original six, and ever since expansion, the Maple Leafs have
been looking for another cup.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
Maybe this is a year.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Maybe, Monxi. If you're airing and you go today.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
You know that's a really hard decision to say.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
You win, and you handre it even more Now you're
out the Western Conference finals just for one game.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
The question to me is can you help him?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Are you injured to the point where you're actually hurting
your team and not helping you.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know, sports line, you're either hurt or injured. If
you're hurt, you can play. If you're injury, you're injured,
you can't.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
But you know, hamstrings are so tricky.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
So it's like, I have knock on, would I have
never dealt with a hamstring injury?

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Well, imagine playing basketball with a hamstring, right, I don't know,
because I feel like with all the other injuries you play, right,
But this is the one where it's like, do you
is it worth it? You know, he wants to He's
a champion, part of a championship.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
I see, I see.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
If there's even a small percentage that he can laying
it doesn't make it a lot worse.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
He's gonna play well again, can he help the team?

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Can here?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Is he healthy enough to help the team. If he is,
then he will definitely play. All right, Mounzi, thank you
very much once again, Hartman and Husky here Fox Sports Sunday.
We're in the Fox Sports radio studios. Oh okay. Now,
by the way, just so I was watching here, Scotti
Scheffler should be teeing off here in a couple of minutes.
So the only guys making a move right now are

(31:26):
guys like Harris English and Ben Griffin. So John Rahm
and bryceon de Shamba not making a move so far
up that leader board. All right. So again, when we're
talking about team's success versus individual success, and this all
gets back to I think the NBA would serve itself
well if they were to do what baseball does and
that give out the awards after the season. All right,

(31:50):
So I want to switch gears here and start in
on a subject we're definitely gonna get into, and that
is the fall of the Boston Celts.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, just real fast on the team versus
individual because it just my mind. I just wrote it down.
So if you don't want players saying I want championships,
that you have to eliminate the Hall of Fame, then
why is that?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Because you're calling it all team?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Then so now teams for certain year like like like
like the like the eighty three Niners, not the eighty three.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
The whole First, it's in a hall, no no, no, no, no, Right,
when you're talking about the Hall of Fame, you are
gauged on your individual honors, whether it was MVP Awards,
All League Awards, or All Star Games. That's your ticket
of championships to a lot of those championships in the Hall.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Well, but a lot of them don't have championships.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I wonder what that number is. I would love to
see what I will say though.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
And hockey is the worst on this with its Hall
of Fame, but it's very prevalent in the basketball Hall
of Fame as well, where you are a member of
a lot of championship teams. You're like the fourth, fifth,
sixth best player on that team, but because you have
a lot of chance. They do this with the Hockey
Hall of Fame constantly, like they put like almost every
Edmonton oiler from the eighties, you know, Like I mean,

(33:08):
come on, if I were in charge of all hall
of Fames, which I should be, if I were in
charge of all sports hall of Fames, I would I
would be like Doge, I would get rid of excess,
like real quick, I'm sorry, I'm taking this plaque down,
I'm removing this bus. You are not a Hall of Famer.

(33:29):
When you set the bar like the Baseball Hall of Fame,
the first five guys, Ty cow Babe, Ruth Hanutspider, Christy
Mathews and Walter Johnson. That is like a Mount Rushmore. Okay,
when you start lowering the bar, you know, a couple
of years later they put Nap lash Away and Willie Keith,
And I'm like, how how much further down are we
gonna lower this bar? I've said this about Hall of Fame.

(33:52):
If I give you a name and I say, is
he a Hall of Famer? And you paused for a thought,
He's not a Hall of Fame it's got to be.
It's got be absolutely, you know Manning, Yes, and you'd say, okay,
how about Eli Manning?

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yes, no, oh we disagree, but yes, Matt Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
You you put.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Peyton Manning and Eli Manning on the same level.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I didn't put him on the same level. I'm putting
Eli Manning in the Hall of Fame. Why because Eli Mannly.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Eli Manning, Dan Marino was the Eli Manning. Joe Montana
was he Brett Farr.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
But what he was, what he was was very consistent.
That's not available. And then he's in the Hall of
the very put put up, put up some good numbers
in his career and then beat the Goat twice head
to head in the Super Bowl. Let me ask you
you to the Hall of Fame in my book, wouldn't you.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Say that if you're a Hall of Famer, at some
point of your career, you had to be the best
at your position. At some point you had to be
acknowledged when you played that you were the best.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I don't. I don't disagree with that, but that's not
the criteria.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, you know it's not right.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I would agree with that, but that's not the criteria.
We go anymore.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
If I were, there would be there would be maybe
I don't know, fifteen quarterbacks total in the Hall of Fame,
maybe Auto Ram, Sammy Baugh, maybe go old timers, SI,
Johnny and das Uh.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
You play Tony Jerkison in. No, okay, I'm just asking.
Just Terry Bradshaw. No, Bradshaw doesn't get in now, Terry
brow topic.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
He was a he was a passenger on a luxury liner.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Oh wow, Yes, Nolan Swan, No, John Stalworth, No, Terry Bradshaw.
Franco gets in. He's the only guy in the offense.
Joe Green is their number one. You've got Lambert jack
Ham yet.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Ye in blunt, Okay, that's it.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Wow. No, Terry Brandt, Mike Webster, no way, Gray Mansfield place.
All right, we'll get to and more into this. Yes,
just getting started here. Once we got a Game seven
in the NBA tipping off in forty five minutes. This
is Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
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Speaker 1 (36:08):
Harbin and Husky Here. Fox Sports Sunday, We're in the
Fox Sports radio studios having a great time as always,
and Scotti Scheffler is off and running seeing if he
can secure his third major championship. He's won a couple
of Masters, and now he's a three shot lead going
into the final round of this year's Masters, So we'll

(36:30):
see how this all plays out for him. By the way,
John Rahm, who's even on the day, has already snuck
into a tie for third. To show you the Davis
Riley and JT posting these guys up on the leaderboard,
they both bogie the first hole, so you know those
guys aren't going anywhere today.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
So my beef with Scotti Scheffler is honestly man like
you said, he's got the two Masters, right, yeah, but
why can't you win a US Open? Why can't you
win an Open, a British Open.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Way?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Why can't you like?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Okay, okay, cool, okay.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, here's a little fact for you. The same course
every year, as far as the Golf Hall of Fame
is concern every golfer except for two guys back in
the nineteenth century that won Open championships at a time
that obviously no one cares. Every single golfer that has
won at least three majors three is in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Three is the cut. There's a lot of guys with
two that are not in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
But if you win three, Now, the guys that are
not eligible yet would be Rory McElroy, Brooks Koepka.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Jordan Speith. Those are the guys currently not eligible.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
You have to be forty five years of age to
be eligible for the golf Phil's already in Tiger z
Oory and all those guys. But that if again, Scottie
Scheffler wins this. Uh, for instance, Podrog Harrington, he won
three majors and he's in the Hall of Fame. Do
you lay three is the cut? I think it does.
It's a it's I mean, you could raise a bar

(37:53):
even more. Yeah we again. Okay, now you're getting back
to what we were talking about about the Hall of Fame.
You know, you want to put Eli Manny in the
same class with Brett Favre and Dan Marino and Johnny
Nightis and Joe Montegna. And I'm like, no, no, no, no,
Well let me just because my thing about Eli Manny
is he put Eli Manning in, then why isn't Jim Plunkett.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Is okay, all right, But this is why Eli man
is shavin because I was just looking this stuff of
doing commercial rate. Number eleven in yards, number eleven in touchdowns,
sixty percent completion percent is now sixty percent completion percent
is so let's remember that, which is.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Really low in the rider, right right right, But but no,
we can't do that. We can't do modern age.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
We get these are just the numbers that is higher
than John Elway Hall of Famer, Stallback Hall of Famer,
Commal Hall of Famer, compared Dan Fouts Hall of Famer,
Bar Star Hall of Famer, France Tarkets and Hall of Famer.
He was a guy who's number eleven in yards, number
eleven in touchdown passes, it has, it has a higher.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Matt Ryan's ahead of him in all those categories. Anyone
who's in the award Matt Ryan's Hall of Famer. How
how are you gonna put Matthew Stafford in.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
The Hall of Fame, not Matt Ryan. I'm sorry, Matthew
Stafford to me is a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Matt Ryan has better numbers than Eli Manning.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
In his career, I got it. Doesn't have that?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
What though, well, what about Philip Rivers.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Doesn't have that?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
What I love?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I love Philip Phil.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Seven Pro Bowls, like I know. Wait to say, Eli
Manning four Pro Bowls and never do legit and.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
But never led his team to Super Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
That's gonna matter. You don't believe the Giants defense was
most responsible for those two wins against the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
To make a play, but it's the facts. Play back,
start the facts of this. See I'm a tape guy,
being a high school football coach. I'm a tape guy.
Put the tape on.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay, in the moment when the moment was there for Eli,
what did he do? And they say, what he did?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Hit me a dump?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
And he did it. You know what he did.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
He didn't screw it up. That's what he does.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Eli Manning gets credit for not screwing up those two
games as the the Giants defense found a way to
shut down Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Okay, I mean, listen, guy, listen. The undefeated Patriots team,
yet the defense to front seven. Great job pushing up
the middle. Tom Brady doesn't like people around his feet.
We know that.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
But all right.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Well, on the other side, I'm gonna finally get to
where I want to go.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
That's the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
What is their future?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, all right,
rolling along here on a big Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.
We are once again in the Fox Sports Radio studio.
Scottie Scheffler. Bogie's the first hole, but so did Alex
Norin who's playing with him in that final pairing. So
right now it's still a three shot lead with Scheffler
as they head to the second hole. John Ram part

(40:40):
of the first two holes, so he's crept within four
of the league. So we'll keep you updated on the
PGA scoreboard. And of course, coming up here in about
a half an hour, tip off Game seven between the
Nuggets and the OKC Thunder. Good game, all right, I
want to get away from the hall for a second. Okay, Now,
it was a few week weeks ago where I got

(41:00):
a lot of heat talking about Jason Tatum and how
boring he is, and you know, then he goes down
with the Achilles and that's horrific.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I hate to see that. It was obvious. I don't
know what they were delaying that he had some kind
of leggings where I'm.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Like, dude, you saw his achilles bop, it's over, and
now you got a Celtic team, and look at all admission.
I hate the Celtics. I have hated that the Celtics
my entire lifetime. Okay, So watching the Celtics lose, especially
as they pretty much mailed in that last game getting
blown off the court by the Knicks, I mean, where
was the fight none?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Where does the hate Celtic ha come from? Just really
really Lakers? Okay, okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Our first NBA Finals literally I watched. I was in
fifth grade. It was the first year of Wilt sixty
eight sixty nine season. Jerry West was my hero fifty
three in the first game Lakers. The Lakers won the
first two games at the Forum, they go back to
Boston Guard and Sam Jones hit a game, win a
game for it. Then they go back to so the Home.
He won the first six games with game seven is

(42:02):
at the Forum and Bill Russell won that game and
of course announced his retirement after the game, and from
that point on, I hate hisself. That being said, this
is going to be a very difficult offseason for the
Celtics because let's start with the obvious one. Exactly is
Jason Tatum going to come back? And is he going

(42:23):
to come back? The bottom line is is when we
talk about Achilles injuries, the only exception to the rule
was Dominic Wilkins. He's the only guy who suffered an
Achilles tear and was able to come back on a
level as good, if not better than he was before
the injury almost everybody else. We started with the Clippers, right, well,

(42:44):
he came back with the Clippers, but even even before
that with the Hawks, you know he had had that injury,
he came back and he was at least temporarily as
good everybody else. So not only are you dealing with
the timetable which is very uncertain on one exact Tatum,
is he going to sit out all the next year?
I mean? And if he does come back, how good

(43:05):
is he going to be? And then you've got cap
implications up the Ying Yang right now for the Celtics.
So you know, this is going to be a very
tough off season for Brad Stevens in company to try
to figure this out. Like you do, you say goodbye
to persingas are you going to start? You know? And
that's why a lot of people said going into this postseason,

(43:27):
this is the last time you're going to see this
Celtic team. So let's talk about the Tatum situation first here,
because look, this is not a knock on Jason Tatum
the player. This is what I call and look at
the look at his last game. Look, I mean he
was unbelievable right over forty points. I mean, the guy's
a great, great player. What I what we talked about before,

(43:48):
We talk about a Scotty Scheffler. Why is Scotty Scheffler
never going to jump off the page even if he
has a dominant game because he doesn't have the personality.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Same thing with Jason Tatum.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
He doesn't have any personality.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
He's just like this straight arrow guy.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
He goes out, he puts up big numbers, he's a
legit all star, he's a legit franchise player. But his
personality doesn't transcend the sport and that's what holds him back.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
So what do you do right now? For you're the Celtics?

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Do you do you game plan the idea that Tatum
eventually will be the Jason Tatum. We saw before the injury, all.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Right, Number one, Jayson Tatum's out all next year. Yes,
he's not gonna play the next season. Guys, it would
make very little sense. I mean, hell, Kyrie might be
out all next year, and he tore his achilles before
the before. I mean it's a cl before the season,
before the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Tart Now doctors could be we have to admit, Like again,
medica is a totally different things. It used to be,
like knee injuries used to end careers and they don't anymore.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
But I talked to him at the last Laker game.
Now was that I talked to Kyri over the last
Laker games out He's walking, but you could just still
see it's a ginger walk. He didn't have crutches, he'd
have a brace or anything on. He's at the game
sitting court side with one of the former Laker assistant coaches,
and had a chance to talk to him. How's the name,
I'm gonna be hard, I'm and that's all. That's all
he would get me, And that's fine. But I think
he he would even be pushing to come back next year.

(45:05):
But Tatum's done. I got a real hot take on
the Boston Celtics right now. And that's because I'm a
guy that always says, I don't care who you are,
what players you got. Championship windows close very very fast.
It's it's it's it's crazy to see the Chiefs so
good right this long, the Patriots so good that long,
the Lakers, the Spurs, gods that ladies, gentlemen, boys, and girth.

(45:28):
That happens very rarely, very richly. Look at look at
the Milwaukee Bucks, they won a championship. Look at the
different Nuggets, they won a championship. They can't even get
out the second round the following year. Boston now makes
it seven straight NBA champions that were eliminated in the
second round the following year. We're almost to a decade.

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We can't even get the team to get back to
the finals, let her know, just even a conference finals.
So I think Boston's window is completely closed. They had
their shot, they got the two finals, they lost the
two to one lead against the Warriors, but then they
finally cashed in. But this stuff weighs on your body.
It weighs on you mentally. These guys just played in

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the Olympics and you didn't get any time off, you
come back, you're down against the Knicks. It was a
lot on this man, and that's how that thing pops
that easy, just taking a step. And I just think
this team is gonna look completely different now. You hear
about the slight maniscus tear and Jalen Brown Porzingis is
doing this close out interview and he's like, my body

(46:32):
just doesn't feel this and feels weird and this and that,
and like, we don't know where this team's going. I'm
on record right now as saying it was fun wild
last And now that's not to say they're gonna win
twenty games next year, But the Boston Celtics championship window
is officially closed. That means getting to the finals, ladies
and gentlemen, That means having a legitimate shot to win

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a championship. Can they win fifty something games next year?
People will tweet me and go, oh, I thought their
window was closed, VJ. It is. They'll win some games guys, well,
but their championship window is officially closed. All right.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
So here is no team right now on paper is
gonna get a bigger leap in team salary, team payroll
than the Celtics. The difference is Jason Tatum. He's got
a twenty million dollar increase in pay next year for
a year that he probably won't play. So he's on
the books for fifty four million next year, free money.
He's got three more years after that, guaranteed money. Jalen Brown.

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These guys are signed lock solid, fully guaranteed deals through
the twenty eight twenty nine season. So now you look
and you're like, all right, Persingus is an obvious He's
got one year left on his deal, thirty million, try
to move. Who's gonna take per single moneywy games? Did?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
He played forty games this year?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
But you know how he's a broken down guy and
you're gonna put thirty million on your payroll.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
You've worked in pro sports front offices next to owners.
You know how this thing goes.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
You'll need firing contract.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
You only need one GM to think we can use that.
I'll give you a team right now. You don't think Dallas,
and that's where he was. But you don't think Dallas
might look at this and say, you know what, man, Well,
we'll see, we'll see. He's got something. I think right now,
it's some equilibrium. It's some mental things.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
All right.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
There's a lot going on for Zingis. But if you're Boston,
I might try to move him. Somebody might take an
inspiring contract that's trying to reload and reset their franchise.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Another guy in the Celtics gonna get a bump and
pay is Derek White. I have no problem with that.
Ca you's sending that twenty eight million next year, thirty
thirty two, so he's not going anywhere. No Drew Holiday.
So Drew Holliday has two more guarantees thirty two million
next year, thirty four million the next, so he's under contract,
got a player option for twenty seven to twenty eight.
Drew Holiday, to me, is a movable player.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, but you got something what you're getting for him though,
that's that's that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
He's a movable player. If I were them, I'm looking
for a big because Persingis is out of here, so
I need a big.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Can I throw a name, a superstar name at you?
Do you call Phoenix to see what they want to
do with Kevin Durant if you're Boston, and and then
then you can add a Porzingis expiring contract. Remember two
weeks Ago. I thought that we taught the JP mah JP.
I said, hey, there's a team out west that needs
the reset. It's not working. You got to reset that
whole thing. I would like the Pistons to call about Booker.

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He's from Michigan. He's a Michigan guy. Kevin Durant's not
gonna want to be there by himself. Right, Well, here's
the thing, so they got to break that thing up.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
But if you're Boston, well, yeah, here's what you're looking at.
But you're looking at this if you get Durant, he's
on expiring contract, but you but you're.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Just trying to You might just want to get him
just for you don't want to fall off the map.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
If you're Boston, you don't want to fall off.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
No Jason Tat What did they look like without Jason Tatum?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
What did that team look like when the court without
Jason Tata?

Speaker 8 (49:43):
If it?

Speaker 1 (49:43):
First of all, the one game five I thought they
showed up for that game five a TV. Right right
after that game, I was gonna craw like, how valuable
him is?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Jason Tatum? As good as they blew out the Knicks
late in a.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Game, the Knicks have been up and down all postseason though, right,
the Nicks have been up and down as they lost
two games in.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
So you're you're okay again where you're you're making the
argument here that Boston's time is ended, right, but you're
now saying it's worth to somehow take on Kevin Durant
with an expiring deal first shot to be relevant, because
if you have no Tatum and you have, let's be
generous and aging Kevin Durant, who could not even get

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his team into the playing round.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
There was a lot going on in Phoenix. There's a
lot going on in I'm not putting that on Kevin Durant.
I'm sorry, I'm not putting that on Kevin Dariens. A
lot going on in Phoenix. None of those guys stepped
up and performed. They were all knocked and injured. They
never played together. It was just it was just a
felt experiment.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Its owner. You had Devin Vail and a great supporting guys.
You did stay with that because you want.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Kevin Durant, you know why, because it's the higher seed
they got there, you know what handed to him by
the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
And that was the reaction. So it was that was
a bad loss. Yeah, well yeah, but you threw away
everything and then you bring on Kevin Duran and this
is remembered. This also, I have to get have without
Steph Curry zero, thank you zero.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I mean Draymond told him we won before you will
win after you, and then they did. But if you're
Boston now, I don't want to make it seem like
a contradicted myself. I think their windows closed. But if
you telling me that Boston is going to just field
this exact same team with maybe one edition of a
role player somebody next year, forty three wins, forty three wins.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yes, JAB because Jameson Taylor maybe. So what about Jalen Brown?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Come on, he's not never thought he was a one.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I never thought he was a one Finals MVP.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
I don't care about that, man, Yeah, early do care
about this, And so is Andre Igodala.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You're gonna put him in the conversation with I'm.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Just saying, if you're telling me, well, he won finals MV. Okay, yeah, yeah,
he won finals.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
In you think that Jalen Brown is a legit All
NBA player, not first team but second and third team
All NBA player.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Okay, well that's a NBA yeah, thirteen, I give him that.
But Jayson Tatum is first team.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
He has been.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Jayson Tatum. There you go, Jayson Tatum is first team.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
All right, Well, we'll see how it plays out. But
that Durant twist, that's an interesting one. He may be boring,
but he's one of the top five players.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
In the league. No, no, no, no, Jason Tatum.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
You think Tatum's one of the top five players in
the league, you gotta be.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
If you're NBA first team, just be a name. First
team means top five players. Okay, who would you rather
have in your team? Jason Tatum or Luka Doncic, Jayson Tatum,
Zulka Doncis plays no defense and he can't stay in shape.
Whoa whoa WHOA champion championship does Luca High?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
He went head up. He went head up with Jayson
Tatum last year. Now you're getting back to individuals win
team championships. No, they don't. The Celtics had the best
team in the East over a five year span and
they were able to go away with one championships. Harding
eight seats might have.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Hard to win, it's hard, man, But when you get
one that that is for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
They can never take it from his education. All right,
let's forget about the team out of the playoffs. How
about the Knicks. How important would it be for the
NBA if the New York Knicks won their first championship
since Richard Nixon was president.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve
Harmin VJ.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Husker. Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We are in the Fox
Sports Radio studios. We are nineteen minutes away from tip
off between the Nuggets and the Thunder. Game seven winner
will move on to the Western Conference Finals against the
Minnesota Timberwolves. I find it interesting in how people talk
about the Pacers and the Timberwolves, like how did they

(53:40):
get there?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
And I'm like, you mean, how did they both get there?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
For the second year in a recond year in a row.
These two teams are exactly where they were a year ago.
And you know, when we talk about remember before the
playoffs began, before they all began, we're all buzzing about
Lakers Celtics. Lakers got all the way to it. Three seed.
Celtics were like, you know, a walk through in the East.

(54:04):
That was the you know, the league is looking forward
to another Lakers Celtics final, when then we were sort
of saying, I'll tell you what they don't want is
Cleveland and Oklahoma City, Like that's okay, we're not gonna
get that, But you know what we could get Indiana Minnesota.
You have to say that the Pacers and the tee Wolves.
You can actually look at their postseason right Granted, the

(54:27):
te Wolves lucked out with Curry being out and everything else,
but they're playing the best basketball right now, Beason. And
if you thought the potential of a Cleveland Okase Finals
would be a nightmare for the league, try Indiana Minnesota.
Two franchises with zero combined NBA titles, both in the Midwest,
both in smaller markets. I mean, it would be a catastrophe.

(54:51):
Which is why the New York Knicks forget this game,
gets seven OK seed Denver, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
There's only one team that matters right now to the.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
NBA, and that is the New York Knicks. And I'll
say I'll say this again, I'm no New York Knicks
fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I know this.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
If you're the NBA, you want the Lakers to be relevant.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
You want the Celtics to be relevant, and after probably
the worst managed team upper managed team over the last
two decades, to get the Knicks back to the Promised Land.
And if they actually were to walk away with an
NBA championship led by the great Jalen Brunson, that would.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Be huge for the NBA.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Like it or not.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
A Knicks win in New York would be huge.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
But the NBA it's not gonna You know why it's
not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Steve, because they did a nicke Obacha. I understand first
of all. You know, like Dolan is holy seen up
the trophy?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
No, man, no, I don't have nothing to say about him.
I cost myself a job three years ago. I'm opening
my mouth about him. I'm not talking about that guy ever.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Again.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Listen, if when you really look at this Nikoboca team,
I used to always have an infatuation with the Knicks.
I'm a big Pistons fan, pisses hardcore all my life.
Kobe was my guys. Here is my guy that That's
how I rock in basketball. But the Nikoboccus is just
always a team I always liked because they those had
guys I like like I was an Allen Houston fan.
I used to like Spreewell. I used to like Grandmama
Larry Johnson. I grew up in the DC, Virginia area,

(56:23):
so I remember when Patrick Ewen was at Georgetown, and
I used to love Patrick Ewing as a kid. They
were always a team that didn't hate and I didn't love,
but when they won, I didn't mind it. Like I
went for them against the Bulls when.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
They played the balls.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Come on starts when he dunked on Horse Grand them
that night. I remember getting my older brother Dennis mad
at me because I was cheered so hard for him
and he Charls Smith, Daniel come on, like all of
them both, Charwell, Charles Smith if he can actually make
a lay up right there in Game five, letting Jordan
and Horace Grant smack him in all upside the head

(56:54):
and block him from behind instead of just dunking it.
Patrick Ewing with the finger roll miss against the pay
so instead of dunking it as a seven footer. They
just always have these moments where you think they're right there.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Lynsanity come on Game six against the.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Rockets, John Starks and Derek Harper and those guys shot
them out of a championship. They're up three to two
against Rudy, Tom Johnovich and the chem Olaja want of those.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Guys, John Starks game seven.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Is gracious shot him out of a championship. And then
they put in Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis goes three for
four in like three minutes. He's banging threes just like
you had Hubert Davis on the bitch.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Based on what's left, five teams that are left.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
That's where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
The knickt winning is by far the biggest thing going
for the NBA at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
The team that needs to win this whole thing. And
it's because it's what you have said about superstar personality.
Some some some some some some.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Looks some juice.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
The guy that actually to the Olympics and told Lebron
and Steph and ran all of them. No, no, no, y'all,
ain't the dudes no more. I'm the dude now. And
that's my man, Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I know.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
And if you agree with you, Jen Jalen ain't got
no character. Jay ain't got no personality.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
By the way, if you end up with a Minnesota
Knicks final. You got two teams and made a huge
trade the benefit of both teams.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
And you got those guys going against each other exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
So there's a great storyline. So we don't we always
talked to fixes in. We just saw it again with
Dallas with a one point eight percent.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Get me going, don't you know, hey, trade you trade
Luca and we'll make it up to you down at
Wing Wing will make.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It percent Harrison. What you're like, how is Nico Harrison
nothing carried out in a stretcher god with Cooper flex.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
No, no, no, they're not take a place.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Okay, well, okay, all right, I'll hold off the alright,
you know. Men, But again, when we talk about so
many times, especially with the NBA, we look at like
when they get to the finals, not every time, because
obviously we get some upsets along the way, but you
finally get like a storyline that makes a sense. And

(59:21):
right now, the storyline that makes all the sense in
the world is a Nicks t Wolves NBA Finals because
of a huge trade that is one of those rare
trades or big names are traded because don't forget, I
mean not just Julius random Dvicenzo.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Not just him, Tim's coach there too, exactly. So there's
a lot of times back.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
So we talk about that trade, you know, Carl Anthony
Towns moving on, I mean worked for both teams. And
then you get full display in an NBA Finals matchup.
That's a storyline that people get interested.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Yeah, no, I'm a seven. What would that be a
six versus three in the finals, right, yeah, six versus
three in the finals. Now, as far as the Knicks go, though,
this feels like the Bucks championship year because the Bucks
kind of, you know, got some fuck. I always go
back to that Eastern Conference Finals. If Kyrie Irvin doesn't

(01:00:14):
step on Giannis's foot, Remember they're whooping the Bucks up
and down the court in Game three, a game where
they're already up two to zero in that series. They're
kicking their butt. Kyrie goes down, and that whole series changing.
If Kevin Durant had a half a foot short of
a aasage shoot, if he had half a sage smaller,
that's a win instead of pushing it into overtime. And

(01:00:35):
then the Bucks didn't get the Atlanta Hawks and Trey
Young in Eastern Conference Finals to go get that championship,
and then they get Phoenix and Chris Paul who was
a little banged up, and they ain't never won none,
and that's how they kind of got that chip. This
next team kind of feels like that because I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Know they did just personal Jalen Brunson. Let me ask
you this personality, Oh I do he has a personality game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I can't stand guy, but you can't know was clutch
player of the Year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
So he foul Jalen Brunson. I'm not saying it's a
better player. He's a more valuable player than Jason Tatum.
Jalen Brunton's value to the absolutely not come.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Absolutely not when he absolutely not Jalen. Jason Tatum is
way more important to the Boston Celtics than the New
York nickaboxas absolutely listen, we can probably call it even top,
but I'm not giving it to Jalen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I'm not giving that's fine. The reason was he was
voted as the clutch player of the Year in the NBA.
Get I get all that. That means.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Also, game was on the line.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Who was the guy that made the most who.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Did the best Jalen, Jalen Bond and couldn't beat none
of the good team really, the top teams this year
couldn't really beat him in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
The Rugt Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Now, yeah, well they I mean beating him banged up
now he's been Yeah, Boston, Boston. I don't want to
blame it. I don't want to blame it on the injuries.
But Jayson Tatum does go down.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
You know something for the Knicks? Now, it's nothing for that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
I do got something for the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Let me ask you this, should your Pistons have already
knocked out the Knicks?

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
They don't talk about that serious man, that thing got
handed to the Knicks. But but they want serious, they
want a series that serious got handed to the Knicks.
But you said, uh, who's more important to the NBA
Detroit and New York. You said it yourself that weekend
on the show, it's the Knicks. And I get where
you're going because you're right the big market. Listen, LA
New York guys, we get what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Can I get Chris in on this as well? Chris,
let me ask you again, Uh, we're talking about the
Knicks right now. Should the Pistons have already knocked out
the Knicks. I mean they didn't, so I'm not sure,
Like what the well, I mean, the insinuation is is
that that wasn't the better storyline. We needed to get
the Knicks past the Pistons and get him into that

(01:02:51):
series against the Celtics.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
You know what I mean, what the calls look like
is that officiating. I don't know if I can say
that fully about the entire series. Like at the end
of the day, the Pistons are just We're a young team,
and they played like a young team that just were
not able to withstand. Like I think back to Game one,
the twenty one to zero run, like that's just a
young team sitting there taking it to the face from
the Knicks. I do have questions about the next going

(01:03:14):
far in that they got past a young team in
the Knicks, in the Pistons, that had, you know, a
lot of that youth kind of going against them, while
at the same time getting a Celtics team that lost
Jason Tatum and ran out of gas by the time
they hit Game six. But like watch how everyone was
like sweating their their bleeps off over over Boston, forcing

(01:03:37):
a Game six itself. Like I don't think the next
team is very deep and it's going to really show
in this next series against the Pacers. The Pacers are
kind of like talk about the Pistons that four rosters
like this is kind of where you have to build
teams now. The Pacers build teams in according to the
new CBA, which is you just have to have a
solid roster at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
And they played like a college team. They pick you
up ninety feet they picked They pressure it and pick
you up Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
They don't have any great scorers like Tyre's Halliburton, but
like they don't need to. They just play good, solid basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Bronx is gonna be in foul trouble in this series
because they're gonna pick him up full court and he
pushes off almost every time he puts the ball on
the floor. He's gonna get caught with some early fouls
some of these games just something to look for.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I like the fact that they have allowed a lot
more physical play in these NBA playoffs than we've seen
over the last few years. By the way, as I'm
watching for getting ready for the tip off of this
game that's on the four letter Denver and OKC, Why again,
do they get rid of Van Gundy and Mark Jackson?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Man stop it and Mark and Mark Jackson is doing commercials,
chime commercials with all his signature. Mama, there goes that
man man and him. So Mark Jackson, I'm happy to
see him making some money.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Mark, I mean, they had such a good dynamic.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
It was it was great. You got rid of him
for what them and the TNT crew. That's the best
NBA thing had gone. Breen Jackson and Van Gundy and
the TNT guys. It's the two best things the NBA
had going.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
The best thing we have going here is Monty Belanas.
I'll stop by far, I'll stop.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Well, you know you're the best day girl in the business.
Not playing with his girls.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Well, she's hosting. She does everything around.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
Don't pitch Intomi into ankerj.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Well whenever needed.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
I was about to mention you on the Dodger field
just the other day, with which your old tiny shirt
and bobblehead. He hits two home runs and then come on,
I know what you.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
Do, says well, but they lost. So he hits two
home runs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
In the movie she Aaron Gordon warming up right now, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
Yeah, no, he's playing. He's starting. They already announced it.
They announced it not long ago.

Speaker 7 (01:05:42):
He is going to start and play in Game seven
of the Western Conference semifinals Thunder and Denver. He does
have a great two hamstring string that requires weeks to heal.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
But we were talking about it. Does he play VJ,
you asked, and it's like, you.

Speaker 9 (01:05:56):
Play rights because if you win this game, you risk
Right now, you're a Western Conference final and this Minnesota
team is resting and they're coming at you.

Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
Yes, no, absolute, But it's like he's let's he's not
gonna play I think the next series.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
But it's like, does he help them at least get
to the next series? You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
You up, bus, Shut up.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
He's suiting up and he's supposed to start. We'll see
how much he actually plays. Is this like a tactic
to like scare them, not scare them, but to be
like he.

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
Is playing, like you know what I'm saying, Is it
a mental thing? We'll see how many.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Minutes we're gonna see it really fast in this game
with his movement monster, We're we're gonna see really fast
exactly yes we are, and.

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
He's starting, so yeah, we're gonna see it early on.

Speaker 7 (01:06:40):
This game is almost set to start Game seven, two
greatest words in sports.

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
Another Game seven today, also.

Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
Guys, but it's on the ice Panthers taking on the
maple leaves. The puck is set to drop for that
one at seven thirty Eastern. We'll go to baseball, where
the Astros are now on top of the Rangers four
to three. They're about to start the ninth inning in Texas.
The Braves have a seven to four lead over the
rest Sox. Top of the eighth inning. Philly is still
edging the Pirates one zero. It's the top of the
ninth inning in Philadelphia and Philly's closer, Hosel a. Bad Allo,

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was suspended today eighty games without pay after he tested
positive for a performance enhancing substance. He would also be
ineligible for the postseason if the.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Phillies were to make it.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
The Nationals still on top of the Orioles eight four,
bottom of the seventh inning. The Tigers are on top
of the Blue Jays three to two. Bottom of the seventh.
The Reds are shutting out the Guardians three zero, bottom
of the six Marlins have added some more runs. They're
beating the Raise five to one bottom of the seventh
inning about to start. The Twins have won thirteen in
a row, but Rhina, Minnesota is losing to the Brewers

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four to one.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Bottom of the fifth inning. About to start.

Speaker 7 (01:07:40):
The Cardinals and the Royals are tied at one apiece
bottom of the fifth inning, and the White Sox and
the Cubs are also tied at win a piece, also
bottom of the fifth inning. In tennis, Carlos Alcoraz won
the Italian Open, defeating Jenets Cinner in that one. At
the PGA Championship, Scotti Scheffler has a four shot lead.

Speaker 6 (01:07:57):
He did already start his final round.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
He's even through four holes, but he's still eleven under.
Now has a five shot lead over everybody else that's
in trying to fight for second place.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Back to you guys, all right, mont See, I'm gonna
tell you one guy that is not happy about the
Aaron Gordon situation in a moment here. First of all,
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videos right there on YouTube. If you're going to be
recognized as the NBA insider, you need to get it right,
and Shams unfortunately did not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
It was about about two hours ago.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Hour and a half ago he posted that Denver's Aaron
Gordon has a Grade two hamstring strain needs several weeks
to recover from the injury. Nuggets playoff star has been
searched for ways to play in today's Game seven, but
it is becoming physically improbable to do so. And then
he just posted this, Aaron Gordon will play and start

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Game seven gutting out a Grade two hamstring string. It
s the the other thing about that position. This guy
does great job. I'm not putting it down, but when
you are that guy and you put it out there,
especially for the gambling community, give me some insight. What's
the deal on Gordon's he's gonna play? He's not gonna play.
Shams puts it out there, it's gonna be improbable that
he is. So you run and say, all right, no, Gordon,

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I'm gonna put my money down on OKC.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
And then you're turning on the TV. What the hell's
happening here?

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
He's in uniform, He's gonna start the game. You gave
me pump information, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
And okay, see is eight and a half favorite right
now as it stands, right now. So I'm not a
big Insiders guy because just too many times I just
honestly feel like the Insider stuff you can put it
out there and then it's never, oh my bad, I
got that wrong. You can just put out another another poem.
But when you're the guy, never have to really admit
when you were wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Geord Szanarowski, I mean he wasn't perfect either, believe me.
He had some bad stories out there. But that's the
problem if you're at the top, you know, if you're
recognizes the guy, Uh, you got to get it right.
So we'll see how it plays out with there. Gordon
could be a very short lived play for him. I
mean he's out, you know, shooting baskets, you know, before
the game. Let's see if he can actually play with

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that injury. So that game's kicking off by the way,
we got Scotti. Scheffler still sitting on a four shot
lead right now. Nobody making a move. John Rahm is
even par on the day, so is Bryce and to Shambo.
So the two big names, they're just sort of sitting there. Scheffler,
he can play even golf today. He didn't have to
make a move. It's it's up to somebody else to
make a move on it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
It just it feels like he if he, I mean,
if he didn't just blow it. I don't know if
anybody like you know, I got my money on rom
to try to make a little runs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Too smart a player to put himself in the right everything.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Listen, put it in the green, put it in the fairway.
You can stay out of the rough, stay out at
the bunkers. They out of the water on seventeen, and
you you know you can walk away with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You You know, it was that way. I don't want
to talk too much golf here, but Nick Faldough when
his very first major was the nineteen eighty seven Open
Championship Final round eighteen pars, no birdies, no bogeys, eighteen
pars good enough to walk away with a win.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Why why Jack Nicholas was this way?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Why Jack Wild? Why play it any other way?

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Honestly, Tiger was this way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
The reason he never blew those is that he said,
I'll do whatever I have to do. Somebody puts pressure
on me, fine, then maybe I got to get a
couple of birdies along the way. But if no one's
breathing around my neck, I just play even cruise.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
And this cruise for his first first Masters, where he
just went where he just blew the field and he
just kept going. Now, his first Masters, yeah, eighteen shots, right,
he just and he was he saw him behind, like, yeah,
I want them further back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
He won by twelve shots.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yeah, I want them further back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
In the US Open, when he won by fifteen shots
and then he goes to Saint Andrews and win by
eight shots, he was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Just God, that's why you can't put nobody in this
guy's category.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Nobody is putting them in their category. I said last
I had to do a TV prediction last night, and
one of my producers there is a lifelong diehard Nuggets fan, right,
and I told him, I will do you a favor
based on my prognostication skills. I will pick OKC. But begrudgingly, honestly,

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I hate to hedge on a game, but this is
really to me a coin flip game, I really think
because OKAC, to me has not shown the level of
play you would expect from a team that won sixty
eight games during the regular season with an average margin
of victory of almost fourteen points a game. We have
not seen that OKC team in this postseason. In Denver.

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You know, you fire your coach, you know, with three
games do on the regular season, and we've seen the
joker step on a big way. Murray obviously is a
big game player, and I have this in the back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Of my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Denver season last year ended in the second round with
an ungodly home loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves. Perhaps the
basketball gods will reverse that in the game. You will
do the winning on the road today in Game seven.
So if I'm leaning right now sort of thinking about
this bye by OKAC, Hello Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
I'm not leaning. I'm already on a complete side. Give
me the Nuggets in this one. And just simply because
championship mental it matters teams that have been there before,
teams that have done it before, and young teams just
don't win championships. And this guy with the ball right
in there, a number one five and you got Brown,
you know, Michael Porter Junior. And then Murray, Murray needs

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to have a big night tonight. But when it comes
down to it, and this game is close, if they're
gonna have the weather to storm, right, okay, he's gonna
come out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
This crowd is gonna be gonna be hot the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Shirt, if you can weather to early storm like they
did in game five, I believe it was weather that
early storm, and keep this thing close, and then let
your championship experience. The years that you've been in the grind,
the years that you want a championship, let that then
shine through. Because there's nobody on that OKC roster that

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even knows remotely what that feel.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
But they have the league's MVP, Shay Gildess, Alexander, this
is his game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
It's a game seven, Shay Gildess, if you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Are the player that you're gonna be rewarded with that
MVP award, which we know eventually they're gonna announce that
you're the MVP. This is the game. You have to
show it. I'm with you on this whole thing at
the start. I mean again, when we look and judge
players on their value to their careers, their teams, the league,
it's based on what you do in the biggest games.
And right now we got Denver off to an early

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four to two league all right. Coming up on the
other side, will continue on our coverage of this game
seven between OKAC and Denver. We'll also talk about what
happened this week in Major League Baseball. Well, Pete Rose
is back sort of, we'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday,
Harvin and Husky here, Fox Sports Sunday. We're in the
Fox Sports Radio studios. So far, advantage Nuggets early in

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this game against the Thunder, very early on. We're watching
Aaron Gordon right now and he's not moving very well
predictably with that hamstring situation. So as we were talking,
as long as he's moving, it sort of keeps it loose.
But the second he has to sit, that's when it's
going to tighten up. So he's trying out there right now.
Twelve to eight Nuggets lead OKC. We're less than four

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minutes into that game. Scotty Scheffler now is a five
shot lead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
But he just also, somebody just yanked there was a
bad leader.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
So no one making a move on Scheffler, and he
is coasting right now with a five shot lead final
round of the PGA Championship. All right, So big baseball
story this week was announced that well, I'll put it
this way, Commissioner Manfred decided that if you have a
lifetime suspension from baseball, that once your life ends, you're

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no longer suspended. You have served your life suspension. So
all those that were on the suspended lists that are
deceased are no longer on the suspended list. Are still players,
by the way, on that list that are alive. But
if you have been if you died like Shoeless Joe
Jackson did seventy years ago, or Pete Rose last year,

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you're no longer on the list. So all these headlines
are like doors now open for Pete to be in
the Hall of Fame. Let me make this clear, Pete
Rose will never be in the Hall of Fame. And
it's not obviously because he deserves it or not. I've
said from day one he deserves it. Go back. Paul
Horney Alex Kris were best two of the best players
in the NFL. They were caught betting on their teams

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to win while they were playing. They were both suspended
for one year, both reinstated. Both are in the Hall
of Fame, okay, but not with Pete Rose. And that
is because the way it configures. First of all, he's
not even eligible for consideration for two more years before
that era committee that he would be lumped in with
would actually vote. You have sixteen members on that committee.

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Six of them are former Hall of Famers, the rest
of former executives and media people. There's no way he's
going to get twelve out of sixteen votes. There's just
going to be too much negative push on a guy
that was suspended for life for gambling on the game
for him to get in the Hall of Fame. Now
what I vote him in, it would he should have
been the Hall of Fame immediately. And by the way,
to further complicated down the road for him, they just

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put in a new rule for these era committees saying
that if you don't get at least five votes, you're
not even eligible three years later when that same committee
meets again, and then three years after that you get
one more shot. If you don't get the five votes,
then you are completely eliminated by the way they put
that in place for the Barry Bonds, the Roger Clemens,
all the ped guys that they're trying to permanently eliminate

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from the Hall of Fame. The Baseball Hall of Fame
is a joke. But here's the reality, folks. Under the
current rules of the Hall of Fame, he rose still
will not make it to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Yeah, the Baseball Hall of Fame is the weirdest Hall
of Fame to me. The percentage of votes you need
and the rules, and you can't get in this year,
then you got to wait another two to three years
for this or that. It's just it's so weird that
it's like how like, for instance, there's guys that tested
positive that are in. David Ortiz tested positive. He was

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on the list, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Let him in the Hall, Pud Rodriguez.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Pudch but you didn't let Barry Bonds, who clearly it's
one of the top ten complete five two baseball players
that God's ever created to put on earth. He was
a forty to forty guy when he was in Pittsburgh,
went in multiple MVPs seven. But because that you had

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to hold him and maguire social stuff. You're not gonna
you're act the baseball acts like none of these like
alexro Alex Rodriguez, y'all gonna add like he wasn't good
before all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Y'all gonna act like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
That he wasn't good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Here's the thing before all of that stuff, Like come on, okay, VJ,
here's the joke of the matter is. And by the way,
John Palm Morosi will not be joining us today. He's
got some family stuff. But I've said this a JP
as well. When you talk about, well, these guys jeopardize
the integrity of the game, and I'm like, the integrity
of a sport that's been an entire race of people
for sixty years.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Right, you're worried about the integrity of what integrity are
we talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
If you really want integrity on the history of baseball,
then any anything that happened before nineteen forty seven should
have an asterisk. The entire career of babro should have
an asterisk. Because you weren't an all inclusive sport. You
had a segregated sport. So this idea that you jeopardize
the integrity of the sport is ridiculous. There's never been integrity.

(01:19:53):
There's always been cheating in baseball. It's part of what
makes the game the game. It is, so I mean
to single out the PD users or somebody to bet
on their team to actually win. No evidence ever bet
against this team. It is a mockery, all right, VJ.
I know you got lots to say about this on
the other side, plus more on these NBA playoffs. It's

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some Fox Sports Sunday, huge day in the world of sports,
and we are all over it here on Fox Sports
Sunday once again in the Fox Sports Radio studios. And
right now a really bad start for OKC Denver twenty
one thunder ten. By the way, Aaron Gordon, this game

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sort we got five rebounds.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Hey, that's all Just being out there is enough right now.
But this is championship Mintel you're seeing right here?

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Okay, see they have not been here, man, this Denver
team has and at ten points with your MVP. Yeah,
as far as are you ready for this? Short one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine. Scottie Scheffler bogeing another hole. He's ad ten under.

(01:21:03):
There are nine golfers nine tied at six under nine.
There's a nine way tie for second place right now,
including Bryson, De'shambo and John Rahm. So but they're just
sitting there, both, they're just sitting there and so no
real pressure on Scheffler yet. But John Rahm is one
of those guys you know, trying you get a couple

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of birdies, you know, get get within a couple of shots.
I need put a little heat on Scheffler, But right
now he's still sitting there with a four shot lead
through six holes here in the final round of the
PGA Golf Championship. All right, so we have had a
quite a day today. I wanted to get your thoughts
as we were finishing off on the whole the Pete
Rose situation and again this this this idea of the

(01:21:46):
Baseball Hall of Fame Hall of Fames in general, there's
no perfect formula. Some I think. I think the Pro
Football Hall of Fame does it best. They fall they
have a smaller voting committee. They're very public about it.
You know, you get the breakdown of the fire list
and everything else. We don't know anything about basketball Hall
of Fame. No, we don't even know who's on the
voting committee. I guess it's Jerry Colangelo doing it himself.

(01:22:09):
And baseball has got way too many people and they
put everybody in. I think the Pro Football Hall of
Fame does it best. At least you have everyone in
the same room. They're talking about it. You know, you
get a name like Peyton Mann, You're like, Okay, let's
move on to the next guy. But there's a lot
of guys that can make arguments one way. You know,
Eli Manning is one of those guys. There'll be people
will argue for him. I'll get against him. So at
least you have an open conversation about that. The Baseball

(01:22:32):
Hall of Fame, though, especially these committees when they talk
about the seniors committees, and I don't know, I mean
to me, frankly, I get having a separate committee for
managers and executives and umpires, right because they're not on
the baseball player's ballot, But why are we still considering
players like if you haven't been in after forty years,
I mean really, and you know, and then that's that's

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the problem. For a Barry Bonds and for a Roger
Clemens and a Raphae pal Merrow or Mark McGuire or
Sammy Sosser and a rod or Manny Ormers are all
these guys that had a Hall of Fame career's Gary Sheffield.
The committee is saying, well, they didn't. They didn't like you, right,
and so you know, you know, we'll put in a

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Fred McGriff. He seems safe. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
They put mcgret a word I don't even I don't
even think I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
We'll put in Harold Bain's.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Right, Harold Bain, Haryld bain Man. It's a hall as
a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
I'm like that with basketball too. Somebody's listen, I made
a big gap. I'm talking to Paul Pierce at a
Lakers so it's a game covering the Lakers. I'm talking
to Paul Pierce. I forgot that Paul Pierce did get
in the Hall. I think in twenty one, like twenty
or twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
One year he didn't. Yeah, you got in a second. Yeah.
But that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
It's like, it's Paul Pierce, a Hall of Fame player,
really really really really really good.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
It is a Hall of Fame. Paul Pierce is the
same player in different games, but the same kind of
career as Reggie Miller, and they're both in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
I don't know if Reggie Miller is a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Right exactly, he's not. I mean again, it's like you're
you're coming around to where I am here. You know again,
if I if I give you a name like Larry
Bird's a Hall of Famer? Was Kevin McHale a Hall
of Famer? Was Robert Parrish a Hall of Famer? They're
in the Hall of Fame both, were you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Know Robert.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
When you when you what do you when you look at.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Magic Johnson, Yes, Kareem abdul Jabbar, yes, Worthy, yes, Worthy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Yes, yes. And then it kind of stops right there
for me. But I know, I know, didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Cooper just get in? Michael Cooper just got in great defender,
I get it. I bought mcadow's in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Right, former Piston, former Laker, You know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
I means mcgrady's in, and I light t mac but
hall of famer? Well, he actually had seven all NBA,
don't Was Chris Weber a Hall of Fame?

Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
First of all, you again again, when you're saying now,
McGrady obviously didn't play any college ball, it came out. Yeah,
So the Basketball Hall of Fame is all inclusive. That's
why Ralph Sampson is in the Hall of Fame. He
wouldn't be in the NBA Hall of Fame, but he
was a college Hall of Fame. But irony is actually
having so good.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Three years saw a good three year career out of
your basketball life gets you in. I have a beef
with that. So don't go akay the UVA years, bet.
But then even if you play at eight or nine
years in the NBA, we don't remember none of your
NBA stuff. So you got in off of two to
three years of what you did at UV eight to
the Basketball Hall.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Let me ask you this. Ben Wallace is in the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Ben Wallace is also a four time NBA Defensive Player
of the Year and one of the better, one of
the best rebounders.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
And that little five year run with a really great
Pistons team, he did nothing. You know that, right, I
understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
But within that little run he was the best defender
in basketball that won four Yeah, I see the hoop
and also saw him guard Shack and stop shot too.
There's sometimes he was Shack put him in a hoop,
but there's also.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Sometimes he was bi. But if you're talking centers, when
you put a Ma Tambo or a Wallace in for
their defense, are they on the same level as Shaq
team Ojan, I mean, that's my that's my But.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Shack will tell you too, he won't a great rebound
or a great defender. He's just a dominant offensive force.
So Shaq went a great defender. You can score on
Shack and Shaq went.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Dwight Howard getting in the Hall of Fame absolutely what.
He's another four time NBA defensive player.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Way I know. But winning to me also has the matter.
Winning to me goes into the equations. So if you
so we had a charge, yeah, you know how I
feel about the buverine. Don't get me starting. But coo on,
let's just put an imaginary chart up and there's categories, right,
So there's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Wait to say Ben Wallace over Dwight Howard.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Absolutely, come on, He's part of the reason he won
the championship. Dwight ain't never get no champion, No deps
did even make That's what I'm saying. So so so
here's our imaginary chart. So you have offense and you
can go how many NBA, NBA selections, how many personal
awards and champion there's other categories, but those be like
the championship and that matters nine even matters winning as

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a team.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
That's a team on plates. And why aren't you putting
Robert Ry in the Hall.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Of Fame Because Robert Rory was a role player? Ben
Wallace wasn't a role player?

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Is a key role player on every team.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Has key role players. It doesn't make you a hall
of Fame? Is Vernon Maxwell and Kinny Smith hall of famers?
They were?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
They didn't win seven rings. They didn't win multiple rings
with three different franchise. There's only one guy he's ever
done that, and that's Robert or I know, But Robert
Rory is not a Hall of Fame player.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Man, he was a he was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
A great role player. That okay, is Steve Kerr hall
of Famer? No?

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Right, and Steve he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
He doesn't and he's not kind of it's just kind
of the same. Robert Roy has seven rings. Okay, it's
one more than Jordan's, all right now, I know that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
But he also like caught fire goy what he got
some with the Lakers got some with the Spurs, and
got some and got some with the Rockets.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
He very franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
I don't like to say the word.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Look, he was very blessed to get to some teams
and play with some coaches and play with them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
He was smart.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Let's just say that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
In his agent think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
You know you can ask and Robert Orie at that
time you could kind of pick where you want to
go right as a free agent, and yeah, I want
to go to San Antonio. You know, I want to
go to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
You know they put in the Hall of Fame Chris Bosh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
And that's yeah, that's that's to me. That's Ray Allen.
You think Ray he's in the Hall of Fame? Is
he really?

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Really Jesus Shuttlesworth, No, Jesus, I think you better look
up Ray Allen. First of all, he's a ten times.
Three of his All Stars were when he was the
commissioner pick Ray was. Ray was a good guy in
the league. Really like, Ray Allen's numbers are not nowhere
near I mean, he's like a poor man's Reggie Miller.
Oh stop it. He was a more man shooter.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
No, he was more way at do you remember young
Ray Allen with the Milwaukee Bucks. That was just a
three point shooter.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I forgot to me. Your faith Ray Allen was Seattle.
Come on now, I mean, look if you look at
if you I'll put Paul Pierce over Ray Allen any day.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
And then you can look at rayality we talk about basketball.
Look at his career Yukon. Look at what he was
doing there at Yukon. He had the game, win a
shot in the Biggies championship game over a idnight.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Sorry, did they win a national championship?

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
They didn't win a national championship.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
We knocked him out. That would be u c l
A thank you, bru.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Ty.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Is that the baby coast to coast?

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Yeah, they took out Ray Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Oh no, Sweet sixteen, Sweet sixteen, the leader.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
It was a lead that was there was bye by Yukon.
See you later. You'll have to wait another day at
those champions By the way, good news for you. John
rom just got a birdie.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
He is now closed within three shots of the lead.
So Scheffler is sitting there at number seven right now,
coming off a bogie and his lead is down two three.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
And that could have been an eagle if he didn't,
if he didn't miss the green and end up in
the rough. He gets a nice pitch onto the green
then and able to get the bogies. He could have
had an eagle and it would have been a two
shot lead.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Okay, So when we we started this conversation, Denver was
up twenty one to ten. Is now twenty six to
twenty three. Here come the thunder. All right, we'll continue
on and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
By the way, on the other side, a new favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Segment here on our show. Yes, and that is over under.
Chris Burfett is on the board, and Chris has got
over unders for us. We still unresolved over unders from
last week, to be honest with you, but we'll get
our score in the long term one. Yeah, we'll have
our latest scorecard on this. We'll have some over unders.
By the way, Okac is about to take the lead

(01:30:33):
right now as Denver is collapsing. And there it is,
oh a block and one and Okase has taken the
lead over Denver as we have started the second quarter.
There we're all over it. This is Fox Board Sunday,
Harvin Husky, Fox Sports Sunday. We're in the Fox Sports

(01:30:54):
Radio studios. Well, it has been all thunder in the
second quarter about score the Nuggets eleven to three. Okay,
see right now with a thirty two to twenty nine
lead eight minutes to go in the first half in
that game. So Denver has cooled off tremendously here and
OKASE got off to a horrific start and now they're

(01:31:16):
catching fires. So it's big game seven. There's gonna be
little runs and early run went to Denver and now
is with OKC. All right, let's get into a subject matter.
This is the genius of Chris. Chris Purfett used with me,
but he happened upon well actually for me personally. It

(01:31:39):
started with an over under. He gave me on how
many this was off air? How many starts will Shadoor Sanders?
How he snaps? It was actually snaps snaps? Yet will
Shador Sanders take in the regular season this year? And
the over under was a half meaning will he actually

(01:32:00):
play at all this year in the NFL? Or will
he not? And I thought, well, that's pretty outrageous. Why
don't you ask that one of VJ? He did, and
you were a gast that's such a insulting question. But
it happened upon the idea, well, these overrunners could actually
work for us, So, Chris, before we get to today's

(01:32:21):
over unders, remind us of some of the over unders
we had last week.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
So last week's a bit of a wash because one's
a long term bet. I granted both you guys took
over on this full season's Belichick coaches at North Carolina,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
You imagined that, and and the over under was a half,
and I was of the story. Yet yeah, yeah, the
story out there is that it may not actually get
to the start of the season. VJ.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
I don't buy it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
There's some buzz that Belichick may never coach a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Game at North Carolina always because there is a buyout
in his deal. It's only a million dollars. The problem again,
is what about the assistance that they have hired. You'd
have to pay off there contract.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Not only that, guys, you'd have to bring in an
entire new coaching staff after June first, and college football
that makes zero. You're mailing a year in.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Well, it was more.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
It was more a reaction to just how bad the
Jordan Hudson story had been getting at this point. And
it's the eternal question is is UNC is?

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
This?

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
Is this worth the squeeze for UNC? So that one's
a wash. Although you both went over on that one
Commander's National Game six and a half. I think we
interpreted that as prime time VJ had over Steve had under.
I believe the number came out at five. On the
flip side, Rockies wins by next week at a half.

(01:33:39):
They actually won that game that was on, which was
the Padres game, So that's Steve over VJ under.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Game.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
That game counted the game that was going on.

Speaker 5 (01:33:49):
All that counter And the one we're still waiting on
is Jokic first place MVP boats twenty and a half.
I think that's right number Steve had over, but they
haven't put out the MVP. I still believe that number
is gonna be between fifteen and twenty five. I think
it's gonna be right around there. But yeah, we still
have to have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
And again, if OKC loses this game right now, they're
well eading thirty seven to thirty five, the idea of
presenting him the award in front of his hometown fans
would go out the window because their season would be over.
So there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
It's very odd. I mean I wrote that anticipating we
at least get an answer on.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
It should have been announced Tuesday before Game five. It
was a two ten series, and okase, I don't know
what's going on. I was sitting here like they already
gave away all the other votes, and by the way,
holding out the MVP is also holding up the announcement
of the all link teams, all defense, all rookie. So
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
The NBA is all over the place, all over the place.
Let's get to some of the new ones. We get
four each week, and I'm saving all these just in
case we have some long term ones. There is one
long term one here, but I'm keeping spreadsheets. We'll always
have these around. Let's just start Karl Anthony Towns. We'll
start with an easy one here. We're gonna have two games.
He's gonna play two games before our next show. So

(01:34:59):
over under cat seventy excuse me, fifty seven and a
half points combined in the first two games, the first
two games before we're on the air next under fifty
seven and a half. That's a big number they're saying
for two games for two games for the season itself,
I think he averaged something like twenty six point three.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Yeah, well that was fifty two. That's that's way under.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Yeah, but he's been up and down in this post.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
I'm trying to think from the Pacers standpoint, I mean,
who are they putting up against him?

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
They got bodies? I was about to say, they got bodies?
And his three point shots been off. He started one for,
he was one for, he was one for twelve of
his last thirteen at one point against against the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Sole Let me the scorecard, says Hartman, two VJ. Nothing.
Is that what I'm reading on those that are? I believe?

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Yes, okay, So I feel like I got some wiggle
room here, go ahead, Do I really go? I feel
I'm not even sure when the when, the where the
date is for the end of this, but yeah, okay, okay,
Well that's run it all summer fifty seven and a half.
Could you make it fifty two and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:36:11):
I thought about it, but I decided to want to
lecture juice. It is the playoffs. This is your big star.
He's got to step up. He's not the big star.
Jalen Brunson is a big star. I'd have to say
under two. I would like to take.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
The wiggle room, Steve don't don't don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
If he said fifty and a half, I would have
said over thirty points a game.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
No, all right, all right, no misom.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
NFL rules, we're going to get some proposals this coming week.
We've talked a lot about the proposal to change the
uh the playoff seating to be record rather than divisional,
posed by the Detroit Lions. Apparently the NFL kind of
urged it after hearing Aman Ross Saint Brown talk about
it on a podcast, and it would probably a reaction to,

(01:36:59):
you know, the Vikings go on the road and loose
the Rams rather than have the chance to be embarrassed
at home for themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
So we got that. But also one of.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
The rules proposals that they're voting on this week is
going to be allowing players to vote, I mean, excuse me,
to play flag football in the twenty twenty eight Olympics,
and that has a lot of big implications. I'm just saying,
there's a there's a couple of rules proposals on the
table here, So I'm asking you over under a half
a rule past in this week's owners meeting.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Well, wait a second. How many different rules are on
the table those.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Two that I am aware of. I think he's asking
about just those two. Well, you can only ask about
those two, all right. We'll just ask about those two.
Between those two, layoff changes and flag football participation, do
any of them get passed? No, give me under They
are not. These owners are not going to allow their cash,

(01:37:52):
their cash product to go out here and tearing acl
I will say hamstring or a groin in the Olympics
and flag for ball.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
I actually think they're more apt to say fine with
that one. The playoff changes is not gonna that is
not going to I'll go over on this. I think
that they might there might be some something wiggle rim
on the flag football. The reason I'm saying that is
when you watch NFL games, they're plugging flag football constantly,

(01:38:22):
like this is their big hype job. And if they
get NFL players out there playing flag football and a
way to promote it, so I'm gonna go home. I
think they say thumbs up on the flag, thumbs down
on the play.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
This is why thumbs down on the flag football, because
football is in an American American sport. How many current
NFL players can go actually play for another country. Most
of American NFL players are American just.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
But we do know this. Canada understand this. We know
there is going to be flag football in these Olympics.
They've already announced that for both men and win.

Speaker 8 (01:39:00):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
I know you have a chance to showcase your NFL
players at the Olympics. Germany has their own domestic league.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
Yeah, but what I'm saying is NFL players they can't Okay,
we can't just go field an NFL team.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
How do you feel about the NBA players on.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
Then there would probably be a lot of One of
the things they have to talk about is there is
a lot of restrictions to the American team for flag football.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
It's I say it's over.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
I'll go all right, I'll take yeah, and again you're
getting the with the room on the I I think
the playoff thing has more legs than you think.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
But we'll see no.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Zero, they're not giving up that divisional rights. I kept looking.
I will say this, I kept looking to see if
I could get if the votes Republic, if I could
get the actual vote breakdown it over under.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
I couldn't find it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
We've we've heard this for years and first, they're never
going to give up that winning. They're not taking away
what win in the division means.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Now, No, that's fine. The waiting a lot more home
games for the Annapolis Colts or something. I guess why
do you think the Patriots were so good? They played
in that weak AFC East all those years up wins
against the bill Jets and the.

Speaker 5 (01:40:03):
Tourist in the villain of North Carolina. Thanks you, National
Football League. Let's move on. The forty nine Ers gave
brock Purty a contract extension here. Uh, couple that with
Eric Edholm NFL ranking. Their schedule is the most favorable
schedule on there. They do play a fourth place schedule.
The divisions work out a certain way.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
Checked it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
This is natural Vegas lines. Let's talk about this. On
their season over and a half ten and a half
wins under.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
They were six and eleven last year brock party was
six and nine under.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
HM, know who won some a deebo. You get a
healthy McCaffrey back, that's a big how long you got
it right? Right, Listen, I've been saying it for years.
Bro I never was sold on McCaffrey being a healthy,
all the time player. He was he was banned up
in college, just banned up in Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Ten and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
Yeah, that's that's That's what why I think because it
was like, I'm just wow.

Speaker 5 (01:41:01):
I know my eyes are popping a little bit seeing
double digits at Division.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
You know, Arizona a R. So you look at the Arizona.
Arizona's in flooded, Shattle Seattle. You know who knows, honestly,
who knows what?

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Sam Darnold? You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Shannon Han's a great offensive mine. I don't dislike Party
or love him as much as everybody else Doesh'm kind
of in the middle of the road about Party. I
always knew they were gonna pay him the same. You
have to pay your quarterback. It's only a matter of time.
I said.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
They have a bounce back year.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Most teams don't go back to back with those type
of anomaly bad seasons. I'll take. I'll take. I can
see eleven and six out of San Francisco in the
long term. Pile well, I mean, let's put it eleven
in six out of San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Let's put it this way. Jed York, the owner of
the forty nine ers for him to sign off on
this deal. Basically told both Shanahan and Lynch, if this
does and work, yeah, you're gone. You're gone.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
You're gone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
This is it. You sure you want to go all
in on brock Party, because that's what we're doing. You're
going all in on brock Party, who, by the way,
now will be paid more per game than he was
paid in total total for three years in the NFL
per game, more than the schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Is very in their favor this year. I was just
looking yea, yeah, pull it up, pull up and see
that's why with you? That's wrong with you, Chris. If
you look at now, I know most people, Steve, we
were talking before the show. You're talking to harmon schedule.
This schedule that I get where people come from. Where
schedule I mean anything schedule. But it does give you,
it does give you a template to look at. It

(01:42:43):
does give you a template to say, we know every
year in the NFL is different. Okay, we get that,
but at the end of the day, your schedule is
still your schedule.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
And if you're looking for their last six games will
be at home, right And if you look at even
the way this season even starts, they start off or
they San Francisco, they have Seattle, they have the Saints,
and they have the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
They easily could start three and Ugh White and your
Jackson Stanisville exactly, Jacksonville comes in, they can easily be
sitting at four. No, have you have you lost sight
of the fact this was a six and eleven forty
nine er team. I haven't. And you were talking about
Deebo Samuel who had one great year has not been that.
Players soon gone, and then all of a sudden you

(01:43:26):
have Christiancioffrey constantly hurt and brock Purty guys come on,
he was also banged up last year.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
But last year, my, my, My description of last year
San Francisco forty ninety team is like how I think
about the Boss of Celtis. They've been to two Super Bowls,
They've been playing a lot of football, and it just
catches up to you, guys. And last year was the
year it caught up to San Francisco. Guys got banged up,
Guys got hurt, Guys missed time that one in the
case the previous three to four years where they were

(01:43:53):
ending up in the NFC Championship game in the Super
Bowl every year twice. It catches up to you. But
it gives you a chance to reset. It gives you
a chance to let some veterans go, which they did.
It gives you a chance to rework some contracts, which
they did, draft some new guys, which they did. And
I and then you pay your quarterback. And once again,
I'm looking at this schedule. It's it's you know, at
the Giants, and we talked about c. J. Strott.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
I think the league's caught up to CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Strott. I never believed that CJ. Strott. I was not
bright Shaw was the rifle number one pick. You're looking
at that game, sitting there on October twenty six. You know,
the division is kind of up in the air late
in the year at Cleveland, Tennessee, Indiana.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Okay, but you're again there, here's the bear. Yes, to
get a fourth place schedule. But we're under the assumption
that last year was an anomaly. I am not okay,
I am I'm not so sure it was an anomaly.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
I like eleven. I can I can see them at eleven. Look,
the team that won this division was ten and seven
last year. Guys, so one that these teams just blew
them away.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Not a good division.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Well, we'll see. I think the rams would be a
lot better than they were at the bottom of a
very The rams might be better, but I didn't see
two teams coming out of that west as well.

Speaker 5 (01:44:59):
I could see it much better really, right anyway, Okay,
I'm gonna skip this. I I really wanted to do
one on Clayton Kershaw. I just haven't figured out a
good way to really do it. This was a rough
start for him.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Tell you what.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
I'll keep thinking about this while we jump along to
Caitlin Clark, who got a flagrant. Was it a flagrant one?
I believe yes, where I'm not sure why you would
have challenged Angel Reese who is forty four point five
percent from inside five feet just let her miss the layup.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
No, that was a purpose That was a purpose foul.

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
Yeah, so, considering how chippy the WNBA is going to be,
Kayln Clark half a flagrant by next show.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Well, they're not playing Chicago again, that's true, she said,
I'd say, under look at it was a message foul.
It was absolutely when Kayln Clark last year, you know,
having this sort of you know, easier way with all
the negativity coming out of the w NBA this year,
Gloves are off. Gloves are off for Caitlin Clark. She's
looking around the WNBA and reminding them, you need me

(01:46:04):
way more than I.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
Know what I'm gonna go over on this, And I say, yep,
and I think she should. And I'm not the biggest
Kaitlan car fan. I'm just looking at her as an athlete.
I think it's in her best interest to be chippy.
I think it's in her best interest to say, Okay,
you know what, Like you said, maybe I tried to
play a little nice.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
You guys aren't gonna play nice right in your life, right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
You can only be nice to somebody long enough before
you go off. Okay, buddy, if this is what we're doing,
if this is how you want to be with me, okay,
I could be just I could be just as chippy
or just as much as a jerk, or just as
mean or just as now. It may not be always
the right, just way to live. They won that student
rights to take in life right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
They won that game by thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
No, I mean she listened. First of all, she looked
great Yesterdaykaylea look great yesterday. She's legit she's gonna be
a star in this league. She's gonna win multiple MVPs,
and she's gonna win championships in this league. I'm like
I said, and I'm not even the biggest Kaitlan car fan.
I'm just looking at it as a sports date. I
think she picks up another flavoring because I think other
players are going to continue to come at her. She's
gonna have to retaliate and she's gonna catch yourself another

(01:47:05):
flavor one Yeah, gloves yeap, gloves her off. If I'm hurt,
stay chippy, and let's just do a bonus one real quick.
I threw and I mentioned Kershaw.

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
He needs thirty strikeouts for three thousand and five earned
runs last start over under I don't know, let's just
say three and a half earned runs in his next start.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Oh over Yeah, he's the man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
I have to say more and a half, honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
I mean the pitch that he threw that was hit
for a home run like eight miles, that thing is
still in orbit. That was eighty five mile an hour
something that was right over the middle. I think he's
can hit thirty thousand strikeouts. They'll get you mean three
thousand strike excuse me, yes, three thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
He will, yeah, thirty, he'll get the thirty strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
But it's gonna be ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
It's gonna be and it's gonna take all year.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
He's got eleven twenty five in take all year.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
He's got a five.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
He's got like a six or seven strikeout game in
him this year. He's gonna have one of these nights
where people gonna go, oh, look, Kershawn's back, and that'll
take a little chunk out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
But it's it's hard to watch for strikeouts here.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Old I think at this point is just kind of
the it's it's the it's the career.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
I'm sorry, you know, I'm gonna change my mind under
Under he could because he'll get hurt again. He'll get her,
he'll get hurt and he'll get put on the d L.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
And that'll take some of his surgery.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
That'll take some of it. Starts away.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
Yep, all right, good stuff, good stuff, Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
I like this one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Oh yeah, all right. We need to find out what's
trending right now because Monsey's standing by Moncey is another
one you agree with us on Caitlin Clark. Like last year,
she's sort of had an easier way into the league.
Really take a lot of crap, and this year she's like,
that's over. This year stayed chippy, right, Yeah, I mean
that was that was a jepanie.

Speaker 6 (01:48:47):
But yes, she should stand her ground more than she
did last year.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Absolutely. I love the fact that when she blatantly hacked
Angel Reese and then she turned her back and like.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
Walked away because it wasn't a flacker and foul and
an Angel ree reacted with the flop to the foul,
that was a flop.

Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
And she reacted.

Speaker 7 (01:49:07):
And to say that there is not a high tensions
when those two play would be a lie. I don't
think Angel Reyes reacts like that if somebody else fails her.

Speaker 6 (01:49:15):
I think she got hacked in the head last year.

Speaker 1 (01:49:16):
She made I think Clark is I'm tired of carrying you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
I think they truly don't like each other. I think
those two ladies do not like each other, which is fine.

Speaker 6 (01:49:31):
Just don't don't tell me that, and tell me one
of us are.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Believing that she looks at Angel Reese as someone that's
latched herself onto her. To get that, I.

Speaker 7 (01:49:42):
Will say that even if you think that Angel Reese
latched herself onto her.

Speaker 6 (01:49:46):
It wasn't Angel Reese who did that. Everyone else did that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
Everybody else, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
And then like the problem is for Angel Reess, she's
a good enough She let the league rebound.

Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
Absolutely, she absolutely, And I I like that she has
that tough mentality.

Speaker 6 (01:50:02):
I like that about Angel rees you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
Know what's Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (01:50:04):
Yeah, like absolutely, I like all that about her. But yeah,
you know that that whole thing, Yeah, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
They don't like it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:10):
They don't like each they don't like each other. And
that's okay, And that is not a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Guys. We got a blowout going on right now.

Speaker 6 (01:50:17):
I don't know about a blowout.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
Yeah, But you know what's crazy is in the first quarter,
the Nuggets were shooting about fifty eight percent from the field.
They are now down to thirty seven percent from the field.
They've kind of gone cold in this second quarter. They
have been outscored by the Thunder thirty five to seventeen.
And we're coming down to the final minute of the
first half and the Thunder are just pulling away.

Speaker 6 (01:50:36):
So right now the score is fifty six to forty three.

Speaker 7 (01:50:39):
Again, final minute of the first half, Shay Gilges Alexander
possible MVP. He's got ten points, but it's Jalen Williams
who's got fifteen points for the Thunder to lead them
right now. For Denver, Nicole Jokic has fourteen points, Christian
Brown has twelve points, and Aaron Gordon he's played sixteen
minutes on that Grade two hamstring strand there's been moments

(01:51:00):
where it looks like a tweak here and there, you could.

Speaker 6 (01:51:02):
Just see it.

Speaker 7 (01:51:03):
He's got eight points and eight rebounds so far in
this one. And yeah, so we're gonna head to have
time with Thunder with a large lead. There is another
game seven later today on the ice between the Panthers
and the Maple Leaves.

Speaker 6 (01:51:14):
Don't forget that one. We'll check in. And baseball going
on right now.

Speaker 7 (01:51:18):
The Cubs have added some more runs against the White Sox,
five to one, top of the eighth inning. The Giants
have scored first against the A's. It's one zero after
two innings. The Angels looking to sweet the Dodgers what
zach Neto and Taylor Ward have both homeward for the Angels.
They're up on the Dodgers three zero, top of the
second inning, the Diamondbacks on the scoreboard one zero against
the Rockies at home. Top of the second as well,

(01:51:38):
Fernando Tattoos Junior put the Padres on the scoreboard with
a solo shot, so they're up on the Mariners one zero,
bottom of this second inning. The games that have wrapped
up well, the Brewers, they snapped the twins thirteen game
winning streak. They had a five to two win. The
Phillies edged the Pirates one zero, and the Astros did
top the Rangers four to three. The Nationals defeated the
Orioles ten four, so Baltimore has lost six in a row.

(01:52:00):
And the Marlins had a five to one win over
the Rays. And something you don't see often in this
Marlins game.

Speaker 6 (01:52:05):
Their picture Cal Quantrill. Yeah Quantrill. He tossed an immaculate
inning in the fourth inning.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
Yeah, I see it is yep.

Speaker 6 (01:52:12):
You don't see that very often.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Nine pitches, nine strikes, three out.

Speaker 6 (01:52:15):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
One's two three doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Happen often, but that that's an immaculateating.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
Working from the boat, bakers, working from the I love.

Speaker 7 (01:52:25):
That, yeah, because you don't see it, so it's fun
to watch. And Scottie Scheffler is still in the lead,
but John Rahm has cut that leads to two. Scotty
Scheffler's up ten under part overall, he is one over
though for today's round through eight holes and John Rahm
now is eight unders, so he's creeping up there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Back to you guys, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Man see by the way, uh, we'll update you on
that golf in the second here. Reminder again, shortly after
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Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see today's show
posted right after we get off the air. So Scheffler

(01:53:07):
right now in the ninth toll. He is one over
on the day. Ram is two under on the day,
so that lead is just two Deshambo can't make a putt,
so he's not making any kind of move right now,
but we'll keep an eye on a guy that knows
how to win majors. Ram, of course, a Master champion,
US Open champion, has not played well on Masters since
he joined the Live tour, but yesterday you could see

(01:53:28):
some of that John Rahm where he used to be
on that a list of contenders at Major's back, and
he's playing pretty well today. By the way, didn't you
tell me before the game we were talking about this
OKC Denver Gaming. You were questioning whether OKASE had anyone else.
I said, they do have another All Star Jayalen Williams
was an All Star this year, made his first All

(01:53:49):
Star team, and right now he's their leading scorer.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
Well, you gotta have the muss halves. I call him
the mussouth. I know shacks like to call them of us,
but I like to call them the muss Haves. And
these the guys you must have when you're raw, that
must have good performances and must win games Game seven.
I don't care what sport it is, what level is.
It's a must win game because this Game seven is
winner go home. So your must haves must have really
good games. And that's what he's doing for his team.

(01:54:13):
I don't give credit for guys in the role positions
or the number two option doing what you're supposed to do.
This is what you're supposed to do. Because Shay Gills
Alexander's not having like a superb super game. Four to
seven from the field right now, one on one, from
three to three or four from the line, twelve points.
But he's a plus twelve right now. And you look
at Jalen Williams who is eight for twelve. He's taking

(01:54:34):
the shot, he's gunning, So they're actually getting the ball.
What difference doing is they're blitzing and trapping Sga and
they're getting the ball out of his hands and he's
getting it to Williams and Williams is making shots on
the other side. Jamal Murray, my man, wake up, bro.
Two for seven on a minus six on your plus
minus for four points in the first half is not

(01:54:54):
gonna help this team and get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
That's the bench. How about Russell Westbrook thirteen minutes of
some mining twenty three. Yeah, so Denver's bench.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Is boards though too assists he's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Yeah, okay. Peyton Watson, my former bruin eight minutes minus
twenty one? Why are you on the court all right?
Coming up with the other side. Well, look ahead to
these conference finals. We'll get our early predictions in This
is Fox Sports Sunday, Hartbin and Husky. Fox Sports Sunday
we are in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Want to

(01:55:26):
thank our crew today. Monsey as valuable as any member
here the Fox Sports Radio team. Chris was per fet today.
Ha ha ha. I've never used that before. I've been
sort of waiting for that one, but there it is.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
I was gonna say, how long have you been holding
on to.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
That one forever? Shay. It's definitely not the first time
I've heard it either. I know that, but I had
not used it. Shay.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
How are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
We're doing good, and you know, it's been interesting. It's
getting a little more interesting that we now have tied
for the lead between Scotty Scheffler and John Rahm. He
has caught him. They're both at nine under.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Park.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
Rom made me look good, baby, appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
John Rahm, who started the day five shots back of Scheffler,
is now tied for the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
I think he was six under and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Yeah, he was five shots off the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
And this is why I question Scheffler. This is why,
like you, you can't gift this up today. You had
a five shot lead going in this thing and you're
tied now coming down to back nine.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
By the way, if Rom does win the PGA, he
will only need one more for the career Grand Slam.
The Open Championship would be the last missing piece. He's
won the Masters, won the US Open, and now trying
to win the PGA. So I'm gonna have an exciting finish.
The two great golfer. Cheffer, by the way, good news
for live golf, and was as well. If rom were
to win this TGA Championship.

Speaker 8 (01:56:57):
I have a bet out there right now for him
to win the US Open. Actually really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
I'll put I'll ride with John now when I like you,
I like I think it's great golf for big told.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
The knock on Ram has been since he joined the
Live Tour. He hasn't really shown up at the majors.

Speaker 8 (01:57:14):
He got like he got a bag, he got some money,
and now he's like, you know what I want that
Grand Slam.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
Yeah, and you don't turn that live bag.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
I know there was a big thing about Live Aaron
Torres and I talked about it a few years ago.
Man about where the money comes from in this listen,
when money when you could take care of your family generationally.
The answer is, yes, you don't turn that down. You
take that Live golf money.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Mane, Well, I look at it. I agree with you
and the way it's looking, it's it's interesting when we're
talking about the merger and Live keeps reminding the PGA,
we're the ones that are gonna call the shots. We
have the money. The money will control the outcome of
this so called merger between Live Golf and the PGA Tour.

Speaker 3 (01:57:57):
Surprise, surprise, that money's going to rule out in America.
I've never had that, never seen that before.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
One guy, that's by the way, Matt Fitzpatrick, former US
Open champion, just chipped in for an eagle at fourteen
to get to seven under. It's getting good. It's getting good.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
This has been golf on a Sunday, Man.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
This is major championships. Great finishes on Sunday. That's what
you want to see on the back nine. All right,
let's talk about these conference finals. Obviously we don't know
the West yet, but let's start with the East. I'm
gonna get you on record right now. We got the Knicks,
we got the Pacers, which one of those two teams
will advance to the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
I wanted to be the Pacers, but I think I
feel you on the NBA wanting to be the Knicks
and the NBA. They just keep showing us. I don't
like to use the word fix, but they just keep
showing us that fans have a reason to question. They
just keep showing us that what the Dallas mavers is
getting the number one pick. So reluctantly, I'll much rather
be right than go with my heart on this one.
Give me the Nickson six. I just think the calls

(01:58:59):
are going to go down there.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
It's so funny. I obviously what I'm always trying to
do with you is trying to get you to go
my way. And and then you brought up the one
thing about the Knicks is that the next to the Knicks.
Let's not forget that. And so I'm gonna go with
what you said, the Knicks are the Knicks, because it
does look like it's all set up. It has to

(01:59:23):
be the You're not gonna have the Pacers in the
NBA finals. You are gonna have the Pacers in the
NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
And what six or seven?

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
Are you thinking? Five? No, okay, it'll be six because
Game six will be in Indiana, So that's where they're
gonna close it out, all right. Western Conference does it
matter if OKC or Denver wins today in terms of
your choice to win.

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
The Western Minnesota team looks prime and and Ant feels like, Okay,
this is my moment to have my Dwayne Wade kind
of birth to the NBA. Even though they know who
I am. Let me get to a finals. Give me
Minnesota or girls who.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
They play and se I like Minnesota as well, but
I'll take him in six. Yeah, Indiana, Minnesota, your dream
NBA front can't wait. Keep it here. This is what
everyone video

Speaker 8 (02:00:15):
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