On today’s episode, Jason is joined by FOX Sports broadcaster Tim Brando for a lengthy conversation centered around all the latest happenings in the world of college football. During the interview, Brando discusses the biggest why Brian Kelly got fired at LSU, whether LSU or Penn State is the best head coaching vacancy available, what the future holds for Ole Miss head coach Lane Kiffin, why he believes that Indiana – not Ohio State – is the best team in the country, which college football quarterback he trusts the most in a big spot, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up, Fire, Fayl. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Foyer for Wednesday, October twenty ninth. Then good news, folks.
Nobody had to stay up until two to three in
the morning on the East Coast to watch Game four
of the World Series. It's kind of a news or
(00:31):
everybody was excited. Otani was pitching and the Blue Jays
kind of got the better of him and then open
things up against the pen, and we will go to
Game five today tied at to a piece. Not much
takeaway from the World Series Game four. It's not like
Otani was bad. They the Blue Jays were just desperate
and they got hits and the Dodgers once again really
(00:53):
did not in the bullpen failed. But we move on
to Game five tonight, the final game at Dodger Stadium
for the season, the final game in the United States
for the two thy twenty five MLB season. The series
will shift to Toronto for Games six and seven. I
(01:13):
can't believe Games six and seven will be Friday and Saturday.
Oh my gosh, Halloween weekend. Unbelievable. Anyways, You've got a
great podcast today, great great guest, Tim Brando. Okay, you
guys know Tim Brando if you watch sports, college hoops,
college football, NFL. I don't know. Maybe he's called some NBA,
(01:34):
I don't know. But Tim Brando on one of the
great announcers. He's just and he's an oracle when it
comes to LSU football, LSU basketball, and so LSU fired
their coach Brian Kelly and Rob g had the bright eyedea, hey, hey,
we haven't talked to Tim Brando this season. Boom, let's
get him. So really good stuff from Tim Brando. Interesting
on the LSU coaching search. We disagree a little bit
(01:57):
on some names, which is fine, you know, and we
also disagree on who he thinks the number one team
in the country is. Now. I didn't push back a
lot on him, but he did not say Ohio State.
He said somebody has a better resume. I don't think
you could guess who. But it is interesting. It's not
an SEC team. I'll just leave it at that. But
great stuff from Tim Brando. And obviously we will have
(02:19):
a podcast previewing the huge Thursday night football game Lamar
Jackson returns. Actually it's not that huge, and what else
is there? Oh, and then obviously there's game Yeah, it
will'll be Game five, so we'll have a little more baseball, obviously,
some more NBA and NFL. There wasn't a lot of
NBA action last night. I woke up. I Wenby didn't
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play last night, so I was like, I didn't miss much,
okayc one. Their fans love to let me know. They're
five and oh, Giannis had a really good game against
the Knicks. My sixers. I am claiming them they got
another winner. Four and oh, I mean I knew they'd
be good. I didn't think four and O good. And yeah,
(03:03):
so tonight there's actually a really good slate. Lakers, Timberwolves,
no Ant no Lebron, no Luca ant Now out two weeks. Injuries,
just NBA injuries. Man, it just doesn't stop. Celtics Calves
is an interesting game. Celtics are one and three, they
do not look particularly sharp early, and then the big
(03:25):
big matchup you get Zion against Jokic. I don't know
how many times they've actually matched up, but I'm always
fascinated when those two do battle. And also two reeling
teams tonight, MAVs and Pacers. I don't know how the
MAVs are favored by six and a half over anyone,
and Cooper flag may be hurt. So that's the game.
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I'm circled. We'll look further into it now. I'll post
something on the gram if if I if I actually
bet on it. But anyways, without further ado, let's get
to our guest college football an ountar, Timbrando.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Fox Sports Right has the best sports talk lineup in
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listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think
he knows everything when it comes to sports.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I know what sports fans want, but for.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Everything he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows a
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, let's welcome back to straight Fire. One of
the top announcers in college football, not just now, but
she's last like what three four decades. He's a legend.
He knows everything there is to know about not only
college football but LSU. The great Tim Rando, Tim, how
you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Why is I like to say, sometimes been around so
long that a little bit of knowledge can be a
dangerous thing and I stepped in it a few times
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Great to be with you, j.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Mat, who hasn't stepped in it. Goodness Listen. Obviously there's
a lot to talk about the sports having a great
season ratings wise, interest intrigued, But let's start in your backyard.
You know, LSU as well as anybody, the decision to
move on from Brian Kelly after they got really destroyed
at home by Texas A and M on Saturday night.
(05:15):
First of all, were you surprised? And then b you know,
have you talked to Brian Kelly though I.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Have not talked to Brian.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Surprised, No, no, not surprised, disturbed at the direction that
college football is going in with everything that's happened, going
back to James Franklin, which started this chain reaction in
college football's coaching carousel. I think that's what opened the
(05:44):
floodgates for all of this. You know, Arkansas, Florida now LSU,
and of course leave it to my home state where
politics and sports always mix, and particularly when it's LSU football.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Going all the way back to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The movie All the King's Men, which was fiction base
but solely on Huey p Long. He wasn't really Broderick
Crawford as the one and only Willie Stark. It was
really Huey p Long in that movie and All the
Kings Men, and it's true that rings true to this day.
(06:23):
That the governor finally steps in because he finds out
that the athletic director and the head coach have an
impasse at their meeting. Okay, Scott Woodward wants one assistant
coach definitely gone. Kelly wants one assistant definitely gone, that
being the offensive line coach, and Woodward won't hear of it,
(06:48):
and Kelly, being you know, the man in charge of
the football operation, says, well, the hell with that.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
He walked out. He walked out.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And at that point Landry, who is you know, God
bless him. He is a big time LSU fan, and
the fans down there really love that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They want that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
They want their governor to love LSU, and he does.
He comes in says, well, we got everything that we
need together to just get him out. Let's clean up,
let's just clean the shop, get him out of there,
and that's what eventually winds up happening. I don't know
that once all of the you know, blank hits the wall.
I don't know where Scott Woodward lands and all of this. Now, Look,
(07:31):
Scott is an LSU guy, very very very very strong
LSU guy, graduated from there in the mid eighties. I
was calling Dale Brown's basketball games and doing the Bill
Oransberger Show when he was still a student at LSU.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He went to Catholic hind Batner. She's got all of the.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Political contacts that a man can have to be in
that position. And you know, he did hire Kim Maulke
who immediately brought a national championship, But his last two
football coaching higher okay, jimbo Fisher at Texas A and
M and now Brian Kelly at LSU have been colossal mistakes.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, And you know, athletic directors.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
In the SEC that have failures with the football programs
hiring process typically don't last that long.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay, But I think he will as long. I think
he will.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I think he'll survive it, but not without a heck
of a lot of help from a couple of private donors.
One in particular that I gather is going to offer
up a big enough check one payment, one payment only,
and that'll cut that buy out from about fifty four
million to maybe thirty or so, you know, roughly half
that and that'll save the day a little bit for
(08:48):
the ad. But I mean, think about it, if they
had to pay Brian Kelly all fifty four million. And
this is the other thing that's coming up now, wait
on it. It gets worse. And because because it's Louisiana, we
are a dirty laundry in public, they're gonna bring you,
they're gonna vote the morals clause, they're gonna talk about
you know, you're gonna be hearing stories about a potential
(09:08):
affair that may have taken all these different things so
they can evoked the morals clause to cut some of
that payment down to Kelly, which is bizarre and unfortunate,
but that's how we roll down here, Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And it's just one of those things again, It's always
been that way, j Mac.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And ultimately LSU football is the most important thing in
state Louisiana in terms of what everyone comes together for.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay. In North Louisiana, you.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
May have gone to school like I did at Northeast
Louisiana now ULM. You may have gone to Louisiana Tech
you may have gone to Southwest Louisiana now known as
ULF yet, but the one thing all Louisianians can agree
on is the flagship university of the state has to
be a kick ass football program.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Everybody comes together on that.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Okay, whether you went to an HBCU like Southern or
Grambling when when LSU's playing, you're still rooting for LSU, okay,
because there's never really been even when Tulane was great
in the sixties and seventies, okay, at private school that
had really good players in Tulane Stadium was so big
and hosted Super Bowls, Okay, before the Superdome was built.
(10:23):
The truth is there is some closet LSU fans that
are alumnis alumni of Tulane. James Carrville, a professor at Tulane,
is an LSU guy.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yea, right, So whether you're a Republican.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Or Democrat, LSU is the thing in this state. So
that's why it happened and where they go from here.
I do think Frank Wilson the interim you'll see a
very improved and competitive team in my opinion, when they
play Alabama because Frank is universally loved has all the
(10:58):
contacts in the world. They got him in there because
he is a guy from the New Orleans area that
can connect with those coaches from a recruiting standpoint, help
build that fence around and as the portal comes open,
those guys.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That know what they're doing with the portal.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
By that time, they hopefully will have hired somebody, but
Frank can channel the high school kids and make sure
that those four and five star kids, which Louisiana always
produces a lot of. They still managed to get into LSU,
so they got that part of it covered.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think pretty well.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Can LSU still make some noise even though they're not
going to the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I think they might. You know, you saw what
happened with UCLA.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
If it can happen with UCLA, yeah, that's it can
certainly happen with LSU with with what they got left,
it'll be a little tougher maybe, but they've got some personnel,
a lot of talent, and Kelly had lost some of
that team.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
There's no question he had lost some of that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Wait, let me let me ask you, Jim, how did
he lose the team? Was it his demeanor? Because I've
told stories on this podcast. I friendly with former quarterbacks,
dealt with this guy, and he is just not good
with the bedside manner. He's not a nice, warm human being.
And I get it. Coaches could be gruff. We've dealt
with many coaches who were gruff, but you have to
(12:16):
toe the line between gruff and being just a good
human being. And by many accounts, he just wasn't a
nice guy. When you start losing gamesm they're gonna move.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
On, right. Yeah, He's a smart enough guy to channel
his charm when need be with the media, you know,
and you know he got involved with.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
You know what we might say is a pr do
over guy before he got the job. I think that's
one of the reasons you saw that bad Southern accent
he was announced to the LSU crowd. It was almost
as if he was trying too hard to be what
he wasn't right, and we saw through that and that
was you know again, I think he meant well, but.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was a colossal mistake. And I do know Brian.
I like him. I do think he's a very good coach.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
His record indicates that even with what he did at LSU,
the guy won seventy percent of his games. He just
didn't win enough of the right games, and he laid
eggs in terms of having relationships. And today in college football,
Jason players want you to know them by name. You
can't be you know, yelling out numbers. You got to
know him by name. You got to prove to them
(13:27):
that you love him. And if you don't prove that,
then they'll eventually tune you out. When when Nussmeyer a
coach's son, you know, his dad is the offensive coordinator
with the New Orleans Saints. When Nussmeyer just turned down
an opportunity to talk with him, when he yanked him
out of the game at the end of the debacle
(13:48):
in the second half against Texas A and M, when
he just shunned Kelly and walked away from him, wouldn't
talk to him, That to me was a sign that
it was in fact over that no way is Brian
Golly going to finish this season because nuss is a
kid that, yeah, he had a rough year. They were
a little coy about some of his injuries. He had
(14:08):
one to the torso, he had some bad ankles and
he's not a He's not a runner at any stretch.
He's no Jalen Daniels. I think everybody knew that he's
no Jaden Daniels, and so he was banged up, and
the offensive line, which should have been better, wasn't. So
they missed on the portal with offensive linemen, similar to
(14:29):
what's happened to Texas with arch Manning. He's not getting protected.
And if you're not getting protected and you're not mobile,
at least Arch is mobile.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Now Smyer is not.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
He's a prolific pocket passer and he was banged up,
and I think that cost them mightily.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So, Yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Individual relationship thing is vital, I think in today's college football,
particularly particularly since these kids are getting paid. You know,
once they know they got you a little bit on
the hook, they feel like they ought to be able
to talk to you like an NFL coach would talk
to an NFL player.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
And I think maybe Brian was a little too caught
up in the way he had been raised generationally into coaching.
Nick Saban couldn't coach in this environment today. It's one
of these It's one of the reasons why he's not
coaching now. Yeah, I'm here to tell you the first
call I'm giving you a prop. The first call definitely
went to Saban. That's Nicks, that's Nick's signature is on
(15:29):
this album. Nick would never coach again today because he
can't coach players as hard as he wanted to coach them.
And one of the reasons he could was because he
gray shirt and kids that he didn't red shirt. He
had three or four of everything, and the players knew that. Well,
when the coach has three or four of everything, then
he can be at times a tyrant and get away
(15:52):
with it.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Today, you're lucky if you've got two deeps. If you
get to it, if you get to a third, that's
a bonus. That's one of the reasons why Texas Tech
has flourished. They got three of everything on defense right now.
But that's the bottom line. And I do think Saban
will help LSU.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Privately, he probably won't tell Alabama that, but I think
he will because his wife loved it in Baton Rouge.
Even Nick has said the biggest mistake he ever made
was leaving for the Dolphins, But at the time he thought,
you know what, I need to try it. Layne Hazings
on the tarmac with five million in his private plane
and take him to Miami back in two thousand and
(16:31):
four going into the five season, and he took that
opportunity and left. But imagine if he had gotten Drew
Brees okay then rather than the quarterback he ultimately took
because his medical people told him not to trust Breeze's health,
and he goes to the Saints. He might have still
been in Miami and may have won a Super Bowl
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and Alabama wouldn't have all those titles that he got
them after he arrived in two thousand and seven. So
I think will be someone that consults with them to
some extent about what direction that they may need to go.
And they can go virtually anywhere because the LSU job,
Jason is the number one job that's open right now.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Hold on, either you're going to say in the SEC
right now, that's open, But let me ask you about that.
So obviously there's a lot of talent in the Baton
Rouge area down there in the South. The case for
Penn State is a better job. Here's the only case. A.
It's easier to win in the Big Ten than it
is in the SEC. And B, I mean, yeah, you're
(17:36):
getting great players at LSU, but all the best players
in Pennsylvania, which is a loaded state. They're not going
to pit They're not going to Temple, They're going to
Penn State. So I think if you want to win quickly,
I think you go to Penn State. I mean, have
you seen the LSU schedule next year? Party face like,
it's just there's eight SEC teams in the top twenty ye.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well too, Sydney, are you there? WHOA? I don't know
what happened. We just had an explosion here in chantou Brendo.
Oh no second, you good? I'm good? Yeah, sorry about that.
Steered me there, A little at it, a little at it.
We just I don't know what happened. But uh, I've
got I've got plaques falling off my wall.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh wow, earthquake.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well we do have some in twimit weather coming. But
going back to to to two.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Points to make about Penn State in the Big ten,
it's getting tougher to win than it was good and
and and the reason for that is because of the Oregons,
the USCS coming into the league, all right, that has
made it much more of a national league.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You are taking and Franklin.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Used it as an excuse way too many times, you know,
cross country travel. He should have laid off that line.
That hurt him, I think because he used it way
too often. That's one aspect of it. Secondly, and I
think this is the most important aspect.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yes, is the main girl in town, but if you've
ever been to that part of Pennsylvania, it is in
the middle of nowhere. It's not easy to get to.
It's not even easy to get to if you're in
Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. They don't have that many flights in
there from there. Many times I have chosen to take
that two lane highway. And by the way, if you
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have to drive from either of the major cities into
State College, eventually you're going to wind up on a
two lane highway, a state highway, and it's cold and
wintry and can be can be trouble. So that's that's
another aspect that people don't think about. And the other
factor here that I think makes LSU a better job
(19:41):
is that in Louisiana they we have more great players
per capita than Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That's why Nick Saban took the job. When he left
Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He had done a study that you know, the first
state that showed up not named Florida, Texas, Ohio, Florida, Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Was LSU Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So when you take that into account, plus the weather,
the seven on seven thing, which is such a big
deal in this part of the country with skill position players,
I think the job in terms of getting quality four
and five star athletes at LSU is easier now than
it used to be. And as a result, I think
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it's a better job than even penn State. And I
think that you'll find that if you talk to most
coaches Jason and listen, there's you talk about athletic budgets
and you talk about clearly in the state of Florida,
you've got more of everything.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Okay, more money, more.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Players, more, But Florida has to deal with Miami, with
Florida State, now with South Florida, with UCF, the competition
economically and for the players, for the athletes is far
greater than in Louisiana, where no disrespect to the Louisiana
Techs and the ulms and the two lanes, they're not
(21:10):
on the same stratosphere with LSU. And this is the
only state really within the sec where you can make
that case. Even Alabama has to deal with Auburn, right,
Ole miss has to deal with Mississippi state in state, Okay,
and these are not the biggest states in the world,
but they've got a lot of talent in those states.
And you know what Satan did was effectively prove to everyone,
(21:33):
if you put a picket fence around the state of Louisiana,
you can win, and you can win big. Well, now
things have changed because of the portal, which has balanced
the playing field out just a little bit, a little
more than a little bit, really a lot, and it's
made everybody's job more difficult. But I do think LSU
is a better job than Florida for the very reasons
(21:53):
that I mentioned.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, let me let's just buzz through some names real quick,
because just keeping in mind that everybody as soon as
Franklin was run, they were like, oh, you gotta go
get Signetti, you'll leave Indiana. But like you said, the
landscape has changed. Everybody's got money, Okay, Signetti just stayed
at Indiana. Let me run through some name. Dude, Lane Kiffin,
do you think he would jump from Ole Miss LSU?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
No, I think you would consider it. I think he
would consider it, but I don't think he's gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I agree full disclosure. I have one daughters, an l
s U Grad. I got another daughter. It's an old
miss grat.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Ok.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wow, I'm not gonna walk the fence. I'm not gonna
walk the fence.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
But but I'm gonna tell you Jay Matt that Lane
has gone through an epiphany in just the last couple
of years, and it was the subject of a documentary
that ESPN's Films people put out just recently. If you
haven't seen it, it's a good watch. Really is Lane's
(22:50):
Lane's rebirth if you will. Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
He has.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
He has owned up to his mistakes and and and
issue in lack of self awareness that he suffered from
from the moment he got to Tennessee and the SEC
and left the way he did for USC, then being
humbled on the tarmac at the LAX the way he
(23:15):
was with Pat Hayden, and then having to start over again,
go through it at FIU, and then from that point
forward or was it failure I think it was FAILU,
but ye, anyway, FLU and then to finally you know,
he was begging for a job at the SEC, level,
and ole Miss was the taker. Ole Miss was the
one that said, you know what, we're going to do this,
(23:37):
which took some houtzbuck given what his image was. All right,
and Keith Carter, a former basketball players. Now the ad
at ole Miss is he's got all the money, all
the backing that you could possibly imagine in the state
of Mississippi could have, and whatever they're gonna throw at
(23:58):
him financially at LSU, whatever Jimmy Sexton, his agent thinks
he's gonna get Fraim at Florida, ole Miss is gonna
be able to counter.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They will be able to come back and say thirteen
point five mili fifteen mil, Yeah, we got we got it.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
And here's the difference, Jay mac. If you're at Florida,
they've already got statues of Spurrier Urban t Bow. If
you go to LSU, they got statues of Dietzel Saban.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You know. Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And by the way, Oorseron's home blooded South Louisiana Cajun.
So you know, once the dust settles, I think I
think ed we'll probably get his too. Okay, So you're
you're in the.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Shadow still of those names that have brought championships, national championships,
and that ole Miss Johnny Vaught was that more than
a couple of generations ago. Okay, with with Archie Manning
playing waterback. I mean the City six three team, the
sixty nine team that played in the Sugar Bowl. They
(25:04):
didn't win an SEC championship that year, but they played
and won the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Listen, this is all new to ole Miss.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
He could be if he stayed, he could be the
guy that they're talking about fifty years from now, one
hundred years from now. He's the guy that could be
the Bear Bryant of ole Miss or the Nick saban
Or of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
He'll be compared to Spurrier when he gets to Florida.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And that's one of the reasons why Florida thinks they've
gotten in on him, is because he has said publicly
how much he loved the way Spurrier needled the opposition
then through Salvos at other coaches, which he did, and
their personalities are similar.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But why be the next Spurrier when you can be
the one and only Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
And he is at ole Miss and forever will be
if he stays, so I don't think he's I don't
think he's going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
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Speaker 2 (26:16):
So Matt Campbell is the name who was hot a
few years ago, Iowa State coach. He's cooled down a bit.
Is he a sneaky name here to watch or is
this not really a regional fit because everybody's mentioned the
two lane guys somehow he's young, you know what, I
don't know. That's quite a leap to go to LSU
from where he's been. But I don't know. I think
(26:37):
Campbell might be a sleeper here to watch. No.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And the reason is he's a culture program builder.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
He builds through a culture of three stars and guys
that are not highly recruited that he really makes into
better players.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yes, yeah, coach him a yeah, he coaches him up.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
And a lot of guys from Iowa State that are
littered through the NFL now to have done what he's
done to win as many games as he has, and
he's still looking for a big twelve title. Lost the
championship game to Arizona State last year Cam s Kataboo.
But he yeah, he's not the guy because I think
the question would be, well, do we know that his
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coaching would translate to these five stars coming out of
urban locations like New Orleans, And.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
The answer to that may be maybe not. We don't know,
So we don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
They're gonna go with someone that they believe and this
is just my thought, They're going to go with someone
that they believe is a younger version of Saban, one
that can acclimate to the times where you have to
understand how to build through the portal and through recruiting,
keep your high school base solid because you want your
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you want your roster to be about seventy percent high
school recruited, but that twenty five to thirty percent that's
out of the portal. You got to get the right ones.
You can't make mistakes on these guys and those people
skills that we're talking about. The guys that have those
that are currently coaching today are Dan Lanning, who's not available.
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He's not leaving Oregon.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
He's not leaving Oregon.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Right closest thing to Dan Lanning with a pulse that's
about his age is his former offensive coordinator now the
head coach at Arizona State, Kenny.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Dillingham, ohha, would leave well.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I think the potential of him leaving for an offer
quite like.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That because his quarterback is going to be going to
the pro. Let Me ask you Clark Lee at Vanderbilt
mm hmmm. I think he's more phenomenal jup. I think
he's going to Penn State, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Know what he could he could.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I don't know that Penn State wants to go after
another Vanderbilt coach after where that would be a turrent
I think maybe for them. But but but Clark is
going to be a big name head coach at a
bigger school sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I don't disagree with that at all.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
How About Jeff Brahm at at.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Louis another one.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
That's another when you take a look at him without questioning,
Jeff's a big time offensive, mighty coach.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I do think offense is the direction LSU wants to
go in.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Kenny Dellighan being an offensive coordinator is another reason why
I like him potentially for the job at LSU. Bottom
line to all of this is the guy's got to
be He's got to be able to deal head on
individually with players and get the most out of them.
The players need to know that the guy loves them.
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Everybody that plays at Arizona State loves Kenny Dillingham. I mean,
they absolutely love it now. I do think he dreamed
of turning Arizona State into what it was with Frank
Kush when he was growing up. He saw Snyder and
a few other guys have good teams. Arizona State's always
been screwed up with their administration. They didn't have the
right president, didn't have the right ad. I think Dillingham
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has sort of galvanized all that, so it'll be hard
for LSU to get him really hard.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I don't know that he'd take it, but he's the first.
He's the guy that I would make sure that I
had him for an interview. I would have him in
for an interview. I'd make him say no.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
The other guy that you've probably forgotten about, also young,
not currently a head coach in college, Joe Brady Oh,
the offensive coordinator at Buffalo. Joe was the OC for
Burrow where they want it All in twenty nineteen, and
if you check Joe Burrow's numbers in the two years
preceding Brady becoming the head coach.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
They weren't.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
They were pedestrian, right, Joe was not all of that
until he had Joe Brady, and that spread offense going
and wait.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, let me let me
ask Brady. I see he has like second or third
best odds, Tim, and you're onto something here.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
My question is, yes, we loved him at LSU. He's
done a good job with Josh Allen. I mean, anybody
can what happened with those two years in Carolina. It's
like kind of glossed over where he was the OC
under Matt Ruhle. Now you could argue, hey, it had
to do with COVID years and blah blah blah, but
all of that he did nothing. And I just wondered, Listen, hey, Tim,
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you know you work with Joe Burrow and and and
Josh Allen. You gotta be pretty pretty damn successful.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know, but you probably know Brady. I don't
know him at all. Have yours spoken to that?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I have.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And I think he's he's smart and shrewd. He's he's
good with people. Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
You know, he also had with him an old hand
was up there with him helping him coordinate that offense
name Steve Ensminger, and Steve was the offensive coordinator prior
to Brady arriving. And then when Joe got there, he
was bringing the Saints offense in straight from Sean Payton.
That was the Saints offense with Breeze and all those guys,
and Joe brought it in and Ensminger worked along with him,
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and the combination of.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
The two were just fantastic.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
And I think Steve, who's still got a voice now
you've retired, but I think he's got a voice that
would be heard by a lot of people, would be
championing the thought of maybe bringing Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Brady in now.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Now the drawback with him might be timing because of
the NFL and the playoffs, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And that's also a problem with Lane.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
If they believe they can get Lane, fine, But if
you look at old Missus schedule, that win they got
over Oklahoma last week huge, I mean, they they they
they are going to be favored and every game they
got left.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, they're going on to the SEC schedule, They're going
to go to the playoffs. So you'd have to wait
for him.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
And I don't know that they can be as patient
to wait for someone like Lane who they don't even
know would really want to take the job in the end.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Anyway, So let me.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Ask we could wrap up to Tim. I know you
got a lot going on aside from LSU. Is anybody
beating Ohio State this year? And if so, give me
two or three teams you think that you've see that
you like that could hang with him, because right now,
according to a lot of the Vegas Power rankings, it's
Ohio State and everyone else. It's not even particularly close.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, well the head of the class of everyone else
in Indiana and Indiana is better. Really, yes, Indiana is better.
Fernando Mendoza. Fernando Mendoza is better. Fernando Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
He you know, you think about it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Rourke was the player of the year in the Big
Ten last year, the kid that came over with him.
And this is one of the reasons why Kurt Signetti
was so successful. And by the way, his success is
another reason you're seeing these coaches being fired immediately in
season because suddenly all these that hood directors think, well, hell, Indiana,
did it just bring in Kurt Signetti? Well, what they
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forget is that Kurt Signetti brought just about everybody from
that JMU team that won the FCS title the year before.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So when you got like seventy percent of your team
coming with you, which he did, that gave him the
foundation to go out into the portal and get really
good guys, and he did.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
But now they're even better.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And as good as Rourke was at quarterback, he's not
even close to as good as Fernando Mendoza. And I
picked them to go into Oregon and win because Mendoza
was successful at Cal, playing in Oregon himself in the
Pac twelve before he transferred in let me tell you something,
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Strat and those guys, the Indiana team is still because
of the way we don't cover college football properly nationally,
they are still largely anonymous players. And that's why Signetty's
so big of a personality that he sucks all the
the attention away.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
From the player.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
The players are great, I mean great college players, and
he's going to have a number of guys in the NFL.
He's got some some NFL linebackers and NFL safeties that
would remind you of what Saban had and by the
way he coaches a lot like Saban. Now he's a
little more sharp tongued than Nick was in terms of
throwing out salthough you've got a little Spurrier and he
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maybe a little Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Maybe a little Lane Kiffin too.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
But but I think I've got I've got them ranked
the head of Ohio State because I think if you
look at what they've done, who they've beaten to this point,
They've played a tougher schedule, They've won the biggest road
game that you could possibly win at Eugene and did
so resoundingly. I mean that game wasn't even as close
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as the score would indicate if you go back and
look at the tape. That's the thing that I would
pick to win at all. Right now over Ohio State
is Indiana.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Let me do the last one real quick, so as
a Jetsky will be drafting near the top. I don't see,
you know, Beck is kind of up and down. I'd
like Dante Moore. It doesn't sound like he's a lot
to come out. The guy I cat got my eye
on is Simpson at Alabama. Every time I watch him,
I love him. My question, though, Tim, is this guy
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you know he sat around for like three or four years,
couldn't never beat out anybody. Now is he dominating as
a twenty three year old because he's older than everybody
and smarter? Or is he good because we all this
with Kenny Pickett at pitt stat forever plays forty touchdowns. Oh,
he's the first round pick and then he's not a
starter in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yeah, here's the problem. I think that that that they're
gonna have Alabama. I think's got at least one loss,
maybe two left in front of them. They have no
running game to go with him. He's carrying that team
right now, and he's carrying it by and large, and
not with his arm, but with his legs. He's become
really their leading rusher in most of their important games.
(36:28):
And that's not all by design.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Now.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
He can run, Okay, he can run, but he's made
big play after big play whenever they've had to have it.
You know, for me, a guy like Dante Moore projects
as a better player. But I'm with you. I think
Dante's gonna hang. I think he knows he needs another year.
My partner, Devin Gardner, has been working with him since
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he was coming out of adolescence into into high school
and we had yet, yeah, Elite elevens, all that stuff.
So I think I think he'll be very wise to
stay put for another year. But but right now, the
guy that you know, I think Fernando Mendoza is playing
at a higher level. He's playing at a higher level
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than the Alabama quarterback in my view.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So it's it.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, but he's but he doesn't have the running statistics.
He he's not having to do as much as as
as Simpsons having to do it. If I look at
Alabama at this stage, it all depends on him if
he doesn't make play after play after play when the
heat's on.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
You know, Alabama's got three losses already. They could have
easily lost to Missouri, could have easily lost to Vanderbilt again,
but managed to get those w's. But I think they're
susceptible in the rivalry game with Auburn.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Auburty's got a great roster now and they just got
off the schneine and finally won a game.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
For you, his job on the line. He's desperate to
get as many wins as he can get.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Uh and and you know the schedule is is still
going to be difficult for Alabama to negotiate all the
way through. But well, before I let you go, okay,
I've got I've got a diamond in the rough on
the coaching at LSU.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I needed to throw that out, and that's Dan Mullen.
I think Dan Mullen.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Oh, okay. So it's interesting. Somebody mentioned him for Penn State,
and I asked my buddy, who's in the search firm industry,
I won't say his name, what's your story with Mullen.
He's like, there's a lot of rumors and allegations as
to what was going on at Florida. I guess he
was bending the rules or he was doing some stuff there,
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which is why they ran himut. Because they kind of
ran him out quickly, and he hasn't surfaced anywhere.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
For such a good coach.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
It is weird that it took him so long to
get a job anywhere.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
You know, Yeah, well that's true.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
But in this day and time, rule bending forget about encouraged. Yes,
rule bending is allowed and whatever you need to do, okay.
And the book on him at Florida was he wasn't
interested in recruiting. That bothered a lot of the you
know the Gator Nation. Well, you know the problem at
Florida right now, they haven't done very well in the portal.
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You know, pony up, give him the players. I think
the pressure to recruit at Florida is not as great
as it would have been the first time around for
Dan Okay. But now if he would have come to LSU.
You know, he's an offensive mind. There's no denying that
he's a very good play caller. And if you're looking
for somebody that's got play calling acumen to the tune
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of and maybe a little bit of a quarterback whisper.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
You look back at how Dak.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Dak came from me from Harton, Louisiana, you know, just
about thirty minutes east of my home here at Chateau Brando.
He was an afterthought in recruiting, an afterthought. And you
look at what Dak was able to do, got in
Mississippi State the number one in the country, and that's
something that really resonates in the SEC. People have not
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forgotten that Dan Mullen got Mississippi State to number one
in the country in Week nine of the college football
season when Dak was there.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Now, they didn't win the championship.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
They didn't get in the playoff, but he got him
to number one, and that matters if you think about it. Now,
listen to me for a second. If Dan Maullin had
chosen to stay at Mississippi State and not go to Florida, Okay,
he would have won a ton of games at Mississippi State,
maybe not a championship, but at Mississippi State, the statue
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would already be up.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And the money now at.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
All of these schools, j MC, because in the SEC
every school is going to invest in their college football program.
In the Big Ten, they get the money, they get
a lot of television money from our employer and many others,
right and the bottom line is not all of them
invested back into football. You tell me how UCLA can
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be this broken down financially?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
How? Why? How could that possibly be? I mean, you
have to have an administration that cares.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
And you know, if you're in a if you're in
a blue state like some of these schools are, you're
not getting as much revenue spent on your football program
in the portal era as you are in the Red states.
And so to bring politics and football back together, and
I thought i'd throw that out.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Look at that weaving it together? All right, what gave
you got this weekend?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Tim, I've got Speaking of Dion, what you know, Dion?
You could fry an egg on his head right now,
I mean you could. He's hoping mad. He is so big.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Well, they're not good. I mean I think a lot
of people say, are you calling his game this weekend?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, we've got We've got Arizona and Colorado in prime time.
And if the series that the World Series is over,
it'll be on Fox. Right now, it's scheduled to be
on FS one.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, no, the World Series will be over for sure.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah wow after what? Yeah, we we just won show?
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Hey o Tani or Freddie Freeman longball away from being
on Fox instead.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Of f S one pretty much? Yeah? Go doctors? All right?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
The great Tim Brando. Catch him calling Colorado Arizona. Catch
him calling games all season. He's great. He's an oracle
of LSU and beyond. Thanks a lot to.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Thank you, Jay Man. Good to be with you, pal,
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up, Fire, Fayl. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight
Foyer for Wednesday, October twenty ninth. Then good news, folks.
Nobody had to stay up until two to three in
the morning on the East Coast to watch Game four
of the World Series. It's kind of a news or
(00:31):
everybody was excited. Otani was pitching and the Blue Jays
kind of got the better of him and then open
things up against the pen, and we will go to
Game five today tied at to a piece. Not much
takeaway from the World Series Game four. It's not like
Otani was bad. They the Blue Jays were just desperate
and they got hits and the Dodgers once again really
(00:53):
did not in the bullpen failed. But we move on
to Game five tonight, the final game at Dodger Stadium
for the season, the final game in the United States
for the two thy twenty five MLB season. The series
will shift to Toronto for Games six and seven. I
(01:13):
can't believe Games six and seven will be Friday and Saturday.
Oh my gosh, Halloween weekend. Unbelievable. Anyways, You've got a
great podcast today, great great guest, Tim Brando. Okay, you
guys know Tim Brando if you watch sports, college hoops,
college football, NFL. I don't know. Maybe he's called some NBA,
(01:34):
I don't know. But Tim Brando on one of the
great announcers. He's just and he's an oracle when it
comes to LSU football, LSU basketball, and so LSU fired
their coach Brian Kelly and Rob g had the bright eyedea, hey, hey,
we haven't talked to Tim Brando this season. Boom, let's
get him. So really good stuff from Tim Brando. Interesting
on the LSU coaching search. We disagree a little bit
(01:57):
on some names, which is fine, you know, and we
also disagree on who he thinks the number one team
in the country is. Now. I didn't push back a
lot on him, but he did not say Ohio State.
He said somebody has a better resume. I don't think
you could guess who. But it is interesting. It's not
an SEC team. I'll just leave it at that. But
great stuff from Tim Brando. And obviously we will have
(02:19):
a podcast previewing the huge Thursday night football game Lamar
Jackson returns. Actually it's not that huge, and what else
is there? Oh, and then obviously there's game Yeah, it
will'll be Game five, so we'll have a little more baseball, obviously,
some more NBA and NFL. There wasn't a lot of
NBA action last night. I woke up. I Wenby didn't
(02:42):
play last night, so I was like, I didn't miss much,
okayc one. Their fans love to let me know. They're
five and oh, Giannis had a really good game against
the Knicks. My sixers. I am claiming them they got
another winner. Four and oh, I mean I knew they'd
be good. I didn't think four and O good. And yeah,
(03:03):
so tonight there's actually a really good slate. Lakers, Timberwolves,
no Ant no Lebron, no Luca ant Now out two weeks. Injuries,
just NBA injuries. Man, it just doesn't stop. Celtics Calves
is an interesting game. Celtics are one and three, they
do not look particularly sharp early, and then the big
(03:25):
big matchup you get Zion against Jokic. I don't know
how many times they've actually matched up, but I'm always
fascinated when those two do battle. And also two reeling
teams tonight, MAVs and Pacers. I don't know how the
MAVs are favored by six and a half over anyone,
and Cooper flag may be hurt. So that's the game.
(03:46):
I'm circled. We'll look further into it now. I'll post
something on the gram if if I if I actually
bet on it. But anyways, without further ado, let's get
to our guest college football an ountar, Timbrando.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
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listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think
he knows everything when it comes to sports.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I know what sports fans want, but for.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Everything he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows a
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, let's welcome back to straight Fire. One of
the top announcers in college football, not just now, but
she's last like what three four decades. He's a legend.
He knows everything there is to know about not only
college football but LSU. The great Tim Rando, Tim, how
you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Why is I like to say, sometimes been around so
long that a little bit of knowledge can be a
dangerous thing and I stepped in it a few times
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Great to be with you, j.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Mat, who hasn't stepped in it. Goodness Listen. Obviously there's
a lot to talk about the sports having a great
season ratings wise, interest intrigued, But let's start in your backyard.
You know, LSU as well as anybody, the decision to
move on from Brian Kelly after they got really destroyed
at home by Texas A and M on Saturday night.
(05:15):
First of all, were you surprised? And then b you know,
have you talked to Brian Kelly though I.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Have not talked to Brian.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Surprised, No, no, not surprised, disturbed at the direction that
college football is going in with everything that's happened, going
back to James Franklin, which started this chain reaction in
college football's coaching carousel. I think that's what opened the
(05:44):
floodgates for all of this. You know, Arkansas, Florida now LSU,
and of course leave it to my home state where
politics and sports always mix, and particularly when it's LSU football.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Going all the way back to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The movie All the King's Men, which was fiction base
but solely on Huey p Long. He wasn't really Broderick
Crawford as the one and only Willie Stark. It was
really Huey p Long in that movie and All the
Kings Men, and it's true that rings true to this day.
(06:23):
That the governor finally steps in because he finds out
that the athletic director and the head coach have an
impasse at their meeting. Okay, Scott Woodward wants one assistant
coach definitely gone. Kelly wants one assistant definitely gone, that
being the offensive line coach, and Woodward won't hear of it,
(06:48):
and Kelly, being you know, the man in charge of
the football operation, says, well, the hell with that.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
He walked out. He walked out.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And at that point Landry, who is you know, God
bless him. He is a big time LSU fan, and
the fans down there really love that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They want that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
They want their governor to love LSU, and he does.
He comes in says, well, we got everything that we
need together to just get him out. Let's clean up,
let's just clean the shop, get him out of there,
and that's what eventually winds up happening. I don't know
that once all of the you know, blank hits the wall.
I don't know where Scott Woodward lands and all of this. Now, Look,
(07:31):
Scott is an LSU guy, very very very very strong
LSU guy, graduated from there in the mid eighties. I
was calling Dale Brown's basketball games and doing the Bill
Oransberger Show when he was still a student at LSU.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He went to Catholic hind Batner. She's got all of the.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Political contacts that a man can have to be in
that position. And you know, he did hire Kim Maulke
who immediately brought a national championship, But his last two
football coaching higher okay, jimbo Fisher at Texas A and
M and now Brian Kelly at LSU have been colossal mistakes.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, And you know, athletic directors.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
In the SEC that have failures with the football programs
hiring process typically don't last that long.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay, But I think he will as long. I think
he will.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I think he'll survive it, but not without a heck
of a lot of help from a couple of private donors.
One in particular that I gather is going to offer
up a big enough check one payment, one payment only,
and that'll cut that buy out from about fifty four
million to maybe thirty or so, you know, roughly half
that and that'll save the day a little bit for
(08:48):
the ad. But I mean, think about it, if they
had to pay Brian Kelly all fifty four million. And
this is the other thing that's coming up now, wait
on it. It gets worse. And because because it's Louisiana, we
are a dirty laundry in public, they're gonna bring you,
they're gonna vote the morals clause, they're gonna talk about
you know, you're gonna be hearing stories about a potential
(09:08):
affair that may have taken all these different things so
they can evoked the morals clause to cut some of
that payment down to Kelly, which is bizarre and unfortunate,
but that's how we roll down here, Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And it's just one of those things again, It's always
been that way, j Mac.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And ultimately LSU football is the most important thing in
state Louisiana in terms of what everyone comes together for.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay. In North Louisiana, you.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
May have gone to school like I did at Northeast
Louisiana now ULM. You may have gone to Louisiana Tech
you may have gone to Southwest Louisiana now known as
ULF yet, but the one thing all Louisianians can agree
on is the flagship university of the state has to
be a kick ass football program.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Everybody comes together on that.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Okay, whether you went to an HBCU like Southern or
Grambling when when LSU's playing, you're still rooting for LSU, okay,
because there's never really been even when Tulane was great
in the sixties and seventies, okay, at private school that
had really good players in Tulane Stadium was so big
and hosted Super Bowls, Okay, before the Superdome was built.
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The truth is there is some closet LSU fans that
are alumnis alumni of Tulane. James Carrville, a professor at Tulane,
is an LSU guy.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yea, right, So whether you're a Republican.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Or Democrat, LSU is the thing in this state. So
that's why it happened and where they go from here.
I do think Frank Wilson the interim you'll see a
very improved and competitive team in my opinion, when they
play Alabama because Frank is universally loved has all the
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contacts in the world. They got him in there because
he is a guy from the New Orleans area that
can connect with those coaches from a recruiting standpoint, help
build that fence around and as the portal comes open,
those guys.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That know what they're doing with the portal.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
By that time, they hopefully will have hired somebody, but
Frank can channel the high school kids and make sure
that those four and five star kids, which Louisiana always
produces a lot of. They still managed to get into LSU,
so they got that part of it covered.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think pretty well.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Can LSU still make some noise even though they're not
going to the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I think they might. You know, you saw what
happened with UCLA.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
If it can happen with UCLA, yeah, that's it can
certainly happen with LSU with with what they got left,
it'll be a little tougher maybe, but they've got some personnel,
a lot of talent, and Kelly had lost some of
that team.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
There's no question he had lost some of that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Wait, let me let me ask you, Jim, how did
he lose the team? Was it his demeanor? Because I've
told stories on this podcast. I friendly with former quarterbacks,
dealt with this guy, and he is just not good
with the bedside manner. He's not a nice, warm human being.
And I get it. Coaches could be gruff. We've dealt
with many coaches who were gruff, but you have to
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toe the line between gruff and being just a good
human being. And by many accounts, he just wasn't a
nice guy. When you start losing gamesm they're gonna move.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
On, right. Yeah, He's a smart enough guy to channel
his charm when need be with the media, you know,
and you know he got involved with.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
You know what we might say is a pr do
over guy before he got the job. I think that's
one of the reasons you saw that bad Southern accent
he was announced to the LSU crowd. It was almost
as if he was trying too hard to be what
he wasn't right, and we saw through that and that
was you know again, I think he meant well, but.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was a colossal mistake. And I do know Brian.
I like him. I do think he's a very good coach.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
His record indicates that even with what he did at LSU,
the guy won seventy percent of his games. He just
didn't win enough of the right games, and he laid
eggs in terms of having relationships. And today in college football,
Jason players want you to know them by name. You
can't be you know, yelling out numbers. You got to
know him by name. You got to prove to them
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that you love him. And if you don't prove that,
then they'll eventually tune you out. When when Nussmeyer a
coach's son, you know, his dad is the offensive coordinator
with the New Orleans Saints. When Nussmeyer just turned down
an opportunity to talk with him, when he yanked him
out of the game at the end of the debacle
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in the second half against Texas A and M, when
he just shunned Kelly and walked away from him, wouldn't
talk to him, That to me was a sign that
it was in fact over that no way is Brian
Golly going to finish this season because nuss is a
kid that, yeah, he had a rough year. They were
a little coy about some of his injuries. He had
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one to the torso, he had some bad ankles and
he's not a He's not a runner at any stretch.
He's no Jalen Daniels. I think everybody knew that he's
no Jaden Daniels, and so he was banged up, and
the offensive line, which should have been better, wasn't. So
they missed on the portal with offensive linemen, similar to
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what's happened to Texas with arch Manning. He's not getting protected.
And if you're not getting protected and you're not mobile,
at least Arch is mobile.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Now Smyer is not.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
He's a prolific pocket passer and he was banged up,
and I think that cost them mightily.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So, Yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Individual relationship thing is vital, I think in today's college football,
particularly particularly since these kids are getting paid. You know,
once they know they got you a little bit on
the hook, they feel like they ought to be able
to talk to you like an NFL coach would talk
to an NFL player.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
And I think maybe Brian was a little too caught
up in the way he had been raised generationally into coaching.
Nick Saban couldn't coach in this environment today. It's one
of these It's one of the reasons why he's not
coaching now. Yeah, I'm here to tell you the first
call I'm giving you a prop. The first call definitely
went to Saban. That's Nicks, that's Nick's signature is on
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this album. Nick would never coach again today because he
can't coach players as hard as he wanted to coach them.
And one of the reasons he could was because he
gray shirt and kids that he didn't red shirt. He
had three or four of everything, and the players knew that. Well,
when the coach has three or four of everything, then
he can be at times a tyrant and get away
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with it.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Today, you're lucky if you've got two deeps. If you
get to it, if you get to a third, that's
a bonus. That's one of the reasons why Texas Tech
has flourished. They got three of everything on defense right now.
But that's the bottom line. And I do think Saban
will help LSU.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Privately, he probably won't tell Alabama that, but I think
he will because his wife loved it in Baton Rouge.
Even Nick has said the biggest mistake he ever made
was leaving for the Dolphins, But at the time he thought,
you know what, I need to try it. Layne Hazings
on the tarmac with five million in his private plane
and take him to Miami back in two thousand and
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four going into the five season, and he took that
opportunity and left. But imagine if he had gotten Drew
Brees okay then rather than the quarterback he ultimately took
because his medical people told him not to trust Breeze's health,
and he goes to the Saints. He might have still
been in Miami and may have won a Super Bowl
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and Alabama wouldn't have all those titles that he got
them after he arrived in two thousand and seven. So
I think will be someone that consults with them to
some extent about what direction that they may need to go.
And they can go virtually anywhere because the LSU job,
Jason is the number one job that's open right now.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Hold on, either you're going to say in the SEC
right now, that's open, But let me ask you about that.
So obviously there's a lot of talent in the Baton
Rouge area down there in the South. The case for
Penn State is a better job. Here's the only case. A.
It's easier to win in the Big Ten than it
is in the SEC. And B, I mean, yeah, you're
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getting great players at LSU, but all the best players
in Pennsylvania, which is a loaded state. They're not going
to pit They're not going to Temple, They're going to
Penn State. So I think if you want to win quickly,
I think you go to Penn State. I mean, have
you seen the LSU schedule next year? Party face like,
it's just there's eight SEC teams in the top twenty ye.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well too, Sydney, are you there? WHOA? I don't know
what happened. We just had an explosion here in chantou Brendo.
Oh no second, you good? I'm good? Yeah, sorry about that.
Steered me there, A little at it, a little at it.
We just I don't know what happened. But uh, I've
got I've got plaques falling off my wall.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh wow, earthquake.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well we do have some in twimit weather coming. But
going back to to to two.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Points to make about Penn State in the Big ten,
it's getting tougher to win than it was good and
and and the reason for that is because of the Oregons,
the USCS coming into the league, all right, that has
made it much more of a national league.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You are taking and Franklin.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Used it as an excuse way too many times, you know,
cross country travel. He should have laid off that line.
That hurt him, I think because he used it way
too often. That's one aspect of it. Secondly, and I
think this is the most important aspect.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yes, is the main girl in town, but if you've
ever been to that part of Pennsylvania, it is in
the middle of nowhere. It's not easy to get to.
It's not even easy to get to if you're in
Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. They don't have that many flights in
there from there. Many times I have chosen to take
that two lane highway. And by the way, if you
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have to drive from either of the major cities into
State College, eventually you're going to wind up on a
two lane highway, a state highway, and it's cold and
wintry and can be can be trouble. So that's that's
another aspect that people don't think about. And the other
factor here that I think makes LSU a better job
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is that in Louisiana they we have more great players
per capita than Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That's why Nick Saban took the job. When he left
Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He had done a study that you know, the first
state that showed up not named Florida, Texas, Ohio, Florida, Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Was LSU Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
So when you take that into account, plus the weather,
the seven on seven thing, which is such a big
deal in this part of the country with skill position players,
I think the job in terms of getting quality four
and five star athletes at LSU is easier now than
it used to be. And as a result, I think
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it's a better job than even penn State. And I
think that you'll find that if you talk to most
coaches Jason and listen, there's you talk about athletic budgets
and you talk about clearly in the state of Florida,
you've got more of everything.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Okay, more money, more.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Players, more, But Florida has to deal with Miami, with
Florida State, now with South Florida, with UCF, the competition
economically and for the players, for the athletes is far
greater than in Louisiana, where no disrespect to the Louisiana
Techs and the ulms and the two lanes, they're not
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on the same stratosphere with LSU. And this is the
only state really within the sec where you can make
that case. Even Alabama has to deal with Auburn, right,
Ole miss has to deal with Mississippi state in state, Okay,
and these are not the biggest states in the world,
but they've got a lot of talent in those states.
And you know what Satan did was effectively prove to everyone,
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if you put a picket fence around the state of Louisiana,
you can win, and you can win big. Well, now
things have changed because of the portal, which has balanced
the playing field out just a little bit, a little
more than a little bit, really a lot, and it's
made everybody's job more difficult. But I do think LSU
is a better job than Florida for the very reasons
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that I mentioned.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, let me let's just buzz through some names real quick,
because just keeping in mind that everybody as soon as
Franklin was run, they were like, oh, you gotta go
get Signetti, you'll leave Indiana. But like you said, the
landscape has changed. Everybody's got money, Okay, Signetti just stayed
at Indiana. Let me run through some name. Dude, Lane Kiffin,
do you think he would jump from Ole Miss LSU?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
No, I think you would consider it. I think he
would consider it, but I don't think he's gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I agree full disclosure. I have one daughters, an l
s U Grad. I got another daughter. It's an old
miss grat.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Ok.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wow, I'm not gonna walk the fence. I'm not gonna
walk the fence.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
But but I'm gonna tell you Jay Matt that Lane
has gone through an epiphany in just the last couple
of years, and it was the subject of a documentary
that ESPN's Films people put out just recently. If you
haven't seen it, it's a good watch. Really is Lane's
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Lane's rebirth if you will. Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
He has.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
He has owned up to his mistakes and and and
issue in lack of self awareness that he suffered from
from the moment he got to Tennessee and the SEC
and left the way he did for USC, then being
humbled on the tarmac at the LAX the way he
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was with Pat Hayden, and then having to start over again,
go through it at FIU, and then from that point
forward or was it failure I think it was FAILU,
but ye, anyway, FLU and then to finally you know,
he was begging for a job at the SEC, level,
and ole Miss was the taker. Ole Miss was the
one that said, you know what, we're going to do this,
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which took some houtzbuck given what his image was. All right,
and Keith Carter, a former basketball players. Now the ad
at ole Miss is he's got all the money, all
the backing that you could possibly imagine in the state
of Mississippi could have, and whatever they're gonna throw at
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him financially at LSU, whatever Jimmy Sexton, his agent thinks
he's gonna get Fraim at Florida, ole Miss is gonna
be able to counter.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They will be able to come back and say thirteen
point five mili fifteen mil, Yeah, we got we got it.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
And here's the difference, Jay mac. If you're at Florida,
they've already got statues of Spurrier Urban t Bow. If
you go to LSU, they got statues of Dietzel Saban.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You know. Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And by the way, Oorseron's home blooded South Louisiana Cajun.
So you know, once the dust settles, I think I
think ed we'll probably get his too. Okay, So you're
you're in the.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Shadow still of those names that have brought championships, national championships,
and that ole Miss Johnny Vaught was that more than
a couple of generations ago. Okay, with with Archie Manning
playing waterback. I mean the City six three team, the
sixty nine team that played in the Sugar Bowl. They
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didn't win an SEC championship that year, but they played
and won the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Listen, this is all new to ole Miss.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
He could be if he stayed, he could be the
guy that they're talking about fifty years from now, one
hundred years from now. He's the guy that could be
the Bear Bryant of ole Miss or the Nick saban
Or of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
He'll be compared to Spurrier when he gets to Florida.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And that's one of the reasons why Florida thinks they've
gotten in on him, is because he has said publicly
how much he loved the way Spurrier needled the opposition
then through Salvos at other coaches, which he did, and
their personalities are similar.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But why be the next Spurrier when you can be
the one and only Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
And he is at ole Miss and forever will be
if he stays, so I don't think he's I don't
think he's going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
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Speaker 2 (26:16):
So Matt Campbell is the name who was hot a
few years ago, Iowa State coach. He's cooled down a bit.
Is he a sneaky name here to watch or is
this not really a regional fit because everybody's mentioned the
two lane guys somehow he's young, you know what, I
don't know. That's quite a leap to go to LSU
from where he's been. But I don't know. I think
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Campbell might be a sleeper here to watch. No.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And the reason is he's a culture program builder.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
He builds through a culture of three stars and guys
that are not highly recruited that he really makes into
better players.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yes, yeah, coach him a yeah, he coaches him up.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
And a lot of guys from Iowa State that are
littered through the NFL now to have done what he's
done to win as many games as he has, and
he's still looking for a big twelve title. Lost the
championship game to Arizona State last year Cam s Kataboo.
But he yeah, he's not the guy because I think
the question would be, well, do we know that his
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coaching would translate to these five stars coming out of
urban locations like New Orleans, And.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
The answer to that may be maybe not. We don't know,
So we don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
They're gonna go with someone that they believe and this
is just my thought, They're going to go with someone
that they believe is a younger version of Saban, one
that can acclimate to the times where you have to
understand how to build through the portal and through recruiting,
keep your high school base solid because you want your
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you want your roster to be about seventy percent high
school recruited, but that twenty five to thirty percent that's
out of the portal. You got to get the right ones.
You can't make mistakes on these guys and those people
skills that we're talking about. The guys that have those
that are currently coaching today are Dan Lanning, who's not available.
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He's not leaving Oregon.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
He's not leaving Oregon.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Right closest thing to Dan Lanning with a pulse that's
about his age is his former offensive coordinator now the
head coach at Arizona State, Kenny.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Dillingham, ohha, would leave well.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I think the potential of him leaving for an offer
quite like.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That because his quarterback is going to be going to
the pro. Let Me ask you Clark Lee at Vanderbilt
mm hmmm. I think he's more phenomenal jup. I think
he's going to Penn State, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Know what he could he could.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I don't know that Penn State wants to go after
another Vanderbilt coach after where that would be a turrent
I think maybe for them. But but but Clark is
going to be a big name head coach at a
bigger school sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I don't disagree with that at all.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
How About Jeff Brahm at at.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Louis another one.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
That's another when you take a look at him without questioning,
Jeff's a big time offensive, mighty coach.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I do think offense is the direction LSU wants to
go in.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Kenny Dellighan being an offensive coordinator is another reason why
I like him potentially for the job at LSU. Bottom
line to all of this is the guy's got to
be He's got to be able to deal head on
individually with players and get the most out of them.
The players need to know that the guy loves them.
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Everybody that plays at Arizona State loves Kenny Dillingham. I mean,
they absolutely love it now. I do think he dreamed
of turning Arizona State into what it was with Frank
Kush when he was growing up. He saw Snyder and
a few other guys have good teams. Arizona State's always
been screwed up with their administration. They didn't have the
right president, didn't have the right ad. I think Dillingham
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has sort of galvanized all that, so it'll be hard
for LSU to get him really hard.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I don't know that he'd take it, but he's the first.
He's the guy that I would make sure that I
had him for an interview. I would have him in
for an interview. I'd make him say no.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
The other guy that you've probably forgotten about, also young,
not currently a head coach in college, Joe Brady Oh,
the offensive coordinator at Buffalo. Joe was the OC for
Burrow where they want it All in twenty nineteen, and
if you check Joe Burrow's numbers in the two years
preceding Brady becoming the head coach.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
They weren't.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
They were pedestrian, right, Joe was not all of that
until he had Joe Brady, and that spread offense going
and wait.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, let me let me
ask Brady. I see he has like second or third
best odds, Tim, and you're onto something here.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
My question is, yes, we loved him at LSU. He's
done a good job with Josh Allen. I mean, anybody
can what happened with those two years in Carolina. It's
like kind of glossed over where he was the OC
under Matt Ruhle. Now you could argue, hey, it had
to do with COVID years and blah blah blah, but
all of that he did nothing. And I just wondered, Listen, hey, Tim,
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you know you work with Joe Burrow and and and
Josh Allen. You gotta be pretty pretty damn successful.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know, but you probably know Brady. I don't
know him at all. Have yours spoken to that?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I have.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And I think he's he's smart and shrewd. He's he's
good with people. Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
You know, he also had with him an old hand
was up there with him helping him coordinate that offense
name Steve Ensminger, and Steve was the offensive coordinator prior
to Brady arriving. And then when Joe got there, he
was bringing the Saints offense in straight from Sean Payton.
That was the Saints offense with Breeze and all those guys,
and Joe brought it in and Ensminger worked along with him,
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and the combination of.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
The two were just fantastic.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
And I think Steve, who's still got a voice now
you've retired, but I think he's got a voice that
would be heard by a lot of people, would be
championing the thought of maybe bringing Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Brady in now.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Now the drawback with him might be timing because of
the NFL and the playoffs, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And that's also a problem with Lane.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
If they believe they can get Lane, fine, But if
you look at old Missus schedule, that win they got
over Oklahoma last week huge, I mean, they they they
they are going to be favored and every game they
got left.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, they're going on to the SEC schedule, They're going
to go to the playoffs. So you'd have to wait
for him.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
And I don't know that they can be as patient
to wait for someone like Lane who they don't even
know would really want to take the job in the end.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Anyway, So let me.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Ask we could wrap up to Tim. I know you
got a lot going on aside from LSU. Is anybody
beating Ohio State this year? And if so, give me
two or three teams you think that you've see that
you like that could hang with him, because right now,
according to a lot of the Vegas Power rankings, it's
Ohio State and everyone else. It's not even particularly close.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, well the head of the class of everyone else
in Indiana and Indiana is better. Really, yes, Indiana is better.
Fernando Mendoza. Fernando Mendoza is better. Fernando Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
He you know, you think about it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Rourke was the player of the year in the Big
Ten last year, the kid that came over with him.
And this is one of the reasons why Kurt Signetti
was so successful. And by the way, his success is
another reason you're seeing these coaches being fired immediately in
season because suddenly all these that hood directors think, well, hell, Indiana,
did it just bring in Kurt Signetti? Well, what they
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forget is that Kurt Signetti brought just about everybody from
that JMU team that won the FCS title the year before.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So when you got like seventy percent of your team
coming with you, which he did, that gave him the
foundation to go out into the portal and get really
good guys, and he did.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
But now they're even better.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And as good as Rourke was at quarterback, he's not
even close to as good as Fernando Mendoza. And I
picked them to go into Oregon and win because Mendoza
was successful at Cal, playing in Oregon himself in the
Pac twelve before he transferred in let me tell you something,
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Strat and those guys, the Indiana team is still because
of the way we don't cover college football properly nationally,
they are still largely anonymous players. And that's why Signetty's
so big of a personality that he sucks all the
the attention away.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
From the player.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
The players are great, I mean great college players, and
he's going to have a number of guys in the NFL.
He's got some some NFL linebackers and NFL safeties that
would remind you of what Saban had and by the
way he coaches a lot like Saban. Now he's a
little more sharp tongued than Nick was in terms of
throwing out salthough you've got a little Spurrier and he
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maybe a little Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Maybe a little Lane Kiffin too.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
But but I think I've got I've got them ranked
the head of Ohio State because I think if you
look at what they've done, who they've beaten to this point,
They've played a tougher schedule, They've won the biggest road
game that you could possibly win at Eugene and did
so resoundingly. I mean that game wasn't even as close
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as the score would indicate if you go back and
look at the tape. That's the thing that I would
pick to win at all. Right now over Ohio State
is Indiana.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Let me do the last one real quick, so as
a Jetsky will be drafting near the top. I don't see,
you know, Beck is kind of up and down. I'd
like Dante Moore. It doesn't sound like he's a lot
to come out. The guy I cat got my eye
on is Simpson at Alabama. Every time I watch him,
I love him. My question, though, Tim, is this guy
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you know he sat around for like three or four years,
couldn't never beat out anybody. Now is he dominating as
a twenty three year old because he's older than everybody
and smarter? Or is he good because we all this
with Kenny Pickett at pitt stat forever plays forty touchdowns. Oh,
he's the first round pick and then he's not a
starter in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yeah, here's the problem. I think that that that they're
gonna have Alabama. I think's got at least one loss,
maybe two left in front of them. They have no
running game to go with him. He's carrying that team
right now, and he's carrying it by and large, and
not with his arm, but with his legs. He's become
really their leading rusher in most of their important games.
(36:28):
And that's not all by design.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Now.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
He can run, Okay, he can run, but he's made
big play after big play whenever they've had to have it.
You know, for me, a guy like Dante Moore projects
as a better player. But I'm with you. I think
Dante's gonna hang. I think he knows he needs another year.
My partner, Devin Gardner, has been working with him since
(36:51):
he was coming out of adolescence into into high school
and we had yet, yeah, Elite elevens, all that stuff.
So I think I think he'll be very wise to
stay put for another year. But but right now, the
guy that you know, I think Fernando Mendoza is playing
at a higher level. He's playing at a higher level
(37:14):
than the Alabama quarterback in my view.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So it's it.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, but he's but he doesn't have the running statistics.
He he's not having to do as much as as
as Simpsons having to do it. If I look at
Alabama at this stage, it all depends on him if
he doesn't make play after play after play when the
heat's on.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
You know, Alabama's got three losses already. They could have
easily lost to Missouri, could have easily lost to Vanderbilt again,
but managed to get those w's. But I think they're
susceptible in the rivalry game with Auburn.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Auburty's got a great roster now and they just got
off the schneine and finally won a game.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
For you, his job on the line. He's desperate to
get as many wins as he can get.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Uh and and you know the schedule is is still
going to be difficult for Alabama to negotiate all the
way through. But well, before I let you go, okay,
I've got I've got a diamond in the rough on
the coaching at LSU.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I needed to throw that out, and that's Dan Mullen.
I think Dan Mullen.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Oh, okay. So it's interesting. Somebody mentioned him for Penn State,
and I asked my buddy, who's in the search firm industry,
I won't say his name, what's your story with Mullen.
He's like, there's a lot of rumors and allegations as
to what was going on at Florida. I guess he
was bending the rules or he was doing some stuff there,
(38:39):
which is why they ran himut. Because they kind of
ran him out quickly, and he hasn't surfaced anywhere.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
For such a good coach.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
It is weird that it took him so long to
get a job anywhere.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
You know, Yeah, well that's true.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
But in this day and time, rule bending forget about encouraged. Yes,
rule bending is allowed and whatever you need to do, okay.
And the book on him at Florida was he wasn't
interested in recruiting. That bothered a lot of the you
know the Gator Nation. Well, you know the problem at
Florida right now, they haven't done very well in the portal.
(39:08):
You know, pony up, give him the players. I think
the pressure to recruit at Florida is not as great
as it would have been the first time around for
Dan Okay. But now if he would have come to LSU.
You know, he's an offensive mind. There's no denying that
he's a very good play caller. And if you're looking
for somebody that's got play calling acumen to the tune
(39:31):
of and maybe a little bit of a quarterback whisper.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
You look back at how Dak.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Dak came from me from Harton, Louisiana, you know, just
about thirty minutes east of my home here at Chateau Brando.
He was an afterthought in recruiting, an afterthought. And you
look at what Dak was able to do, got in
Mississippi State the number one in the country, and that's
something that really resonates in the SEC. People have not
(39:57):
forgotten that Dan Mullen got Mississippi State to number one
in the country in Week nine of the college football
season when Dak was there.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Now, they didn't win the championship.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
They didn't get in the playoff, but he got him
to number one, and that matters if you think about it. Now,
listen to me for a second. If Dan Maullin had
chosen to stay at Mississippi State and not go to Florida, Okay,
he would have won a ton of games at Mississippi State,
maybe not a championship, but at Mississippi State, the statue
(40:30):
would already be up.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And the money now at.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
All of these schools, j MC, because in the SEC
every school is going to invest in their college football program.
In the Big Ten, they get the money, they get
a lot of television money from our employer and many others,
right and the bottom line is not all of them
invested back into football. You tell me how UCLA can
(40:57):
be this broken down financially?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
How? Why? How could that possibly be? I mean, you
have to have an administration that cares.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
And you know, if you're in a if you're in
a blue state like some of these schools are, you're
not getting as much revenue spent on your football program
in the portal era as you are in the Red states.
And so to bring politics and football back together, and
I thought i'd throw that out.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Look at that weaving it together? All right, what gave
you got this weekend?
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Tim, I've got Speaking of Dion, what you know, Dion?
You could fry an egg on his head right now,
I mean you could. He's hoping mad. He is so big.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Well, they're not good. I mean I think a lot
of people say, are you calling his game this weekend?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, we've got We've got Arizona and Colorado in prime time.
And if the series that the World Series is over,
it'll be on Fox. Right now, it's scheduled to be
on FS one.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, no, the World Series will be over for sure.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah wow after what? Yeah, we we just won show?
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Hey o Tani or Freddie Freeman longball away from being
on Fox instead.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Of f S one pretty much? Yeah? Go doctors? All right?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
The great Tim Brando. Catch him calling Colorado Arizona. Catch
him calling games all season. He's great. He's an oracle
of LSU and beyond. Thanks a lot to.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Thank you, Jay Man. Good to be with you, pal,
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