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October 6, 2025 36 mins

On today’s episode, Jason discusses whether the Baltimore Ravens are more likely to fire head coach John Harbaugh or win the AFC North altogether at the end of this season, where the Detroit Lions rank in the NFC hierarchy, how catering to disgruntled wide receivers AJ Brown and Devonta Smith could ultimately be what derails the Philadelphia Eagles' season, and why a third-string running back for the Arizona Cardinals deserves to be cut at some point on Monday for his role in their embarrassing loss on Sunday to the Tennessee Titans. Finally, J-Mac closes the show with his Best Bets for the Monday Night Football showdown between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Jacksonville Jaguars. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Straight Fire?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Fam?

Speaker 4 (00:13):
It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight all year for Monday, October
the sixth. Oh man, what a long weekend. Your boys
A little worn down? Rob g thankfully here to help me.
I don't know who's more tired NFL fans from watching bad,

(00:34):
terrible football this weekend or Penn State fans from watching
James Franklin just inexplicably no show.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'll try to get Robbed to talk about UCLA take
it down Penn State.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's like a four touchdown underdog.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
But I don't really know where to start with the Actually,
before I get to the NFL, let me get to
the weekend real quick. So obviously there's baseball playoffs, and
those were interesting Saturday, but the games were not. I mean,
the were great, you know, oh Tani pitching, but the
games themselves not super competitive. Yankees got blasted. So then

(01:07):
you start Sunday with the game in London, and I
was excited for it, but I'm not waking up early
for it. So my daughter has you know, she just
made this volleyball team, so they have this like commitment day, yes,
they do this for middle school kids, and you got
to go and fitted for jerseys and all this stuff.
So I'm watching the game on my phone and I'm like,
Dylan Gabriel doesn't look bad, but this game stinks.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I mean, the game was just bad.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
And of course the Browns blow it and give Carson
Wentz a chance late and he hits Jordan Adison for
the game winner. Now, I again, I didn't wake up
super early, so I didn't realize that Jordan Addison was
kind of benched for the.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
First quarter or maybe the first half.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
It was kind of unclear. And again I missed the telecast,
so I didn't understand. And then after he catches the
game winning touchdown, I'm like, oh, man, Jordan, I said, oh,
he was benched, and I look it up. Apparently he
was hanging out with some rapper into the early morning
hours in London. I didn't know Jordan Addison was an
international rap fan at any rate. Catches a game when

(02:10):
he touchdown, Vikings win, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
So then you get to Sunday's games and I listen.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm not I love the NFL gambling Fantasy Survivor blah blah,
all of it. You know, it's captivating, and the games
were just putrid on Sunday. Now, I did go with
a couple buddies to the Chargers game, and if you
didn't watch it, and by the way, Brady was on
the call, so I'm guessing most of the country had it.
Chargers take a ten nothing lead, They're moving down the field,

(02:37):
I mean the I think the Commanders might have had
one first down maybe two at this time, and Quentin
Johnson casts to pass right near the red zone and
then gets hit in fumbles and like, oh, so they're
not gonna go up seventeen nothing. The rest of the
game was dominated from that moment by Washington. If Quentin
Johnson doesn't fumble, maybe the Chargers go up seventeen to

(02:58):
nothing and hold on and cruise. But that sparked the Commanders.
They come back.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
They scored twenty seven in a row. Blah blah blah.
Comanders player.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
And the game wasn't even great because the Chargers kept
getting injuries. Hampton's hurt offensive line is destroyed. And then
Sunday Night football. You know, I bet the over forty
eight forty nine. It's six three at halftime, and the
Bills had more penalties than first downs. I don't know
what if it's an epidemic going on around the league
or it was just a really, really bad Sunday, but

(03:26):
there were so many bad games. The Baltimore Ravens, by
the way, are done. It's over the seasons cooked. They
are an unwatchable mess. They dropped a one and four,
getting housed by the Texans forty four to ten. Now,
ordinarily there would be a big story, except the Ravens
were without Lamar Jackson and half their defensive starters. The
Texans basically doubled up their offensive output yardage wise.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think they scored on like five or six possessions
in a row.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
The Ravens are done, so I don't think you want
to force Lamar back on against the Rams, and the
Rams are be fired up coming off extra rest. Then
you get to buy why don't you just rest him
for another So one in five can they come back?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I personally don't think so. I'm calling them done.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
The caveat is they still have at least one game
against Jake Browning, assuming Jake Browning is still the starter.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
He may not be.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
He's awful, and they have two games against Pittsburgh with stinks.
Pittsburgh gotta buy so like back end of their schedule.
I mean, let's be real, Rob, I did just proclaim
the Ravens done, but they still get to play Miami.
I'll just say the quarterback because that really strengthens my
argument to a tongue Iloa, JJ McCarthy, Dylan Gabriel, Justin Fields,

(04:41):
Jake Browning. Like there's a world where the Ravens can
easily peel off victories if guys get healthy. Jake Browning,
Aaron Rodgers, Jake Browning, Drake May who did look good
on Sunday Night Football in the game winning drive, Jordan
Love and Aaron Rodgers. So basically they only face two
good teams the rest of the way. The Patriots, who
I are good at, Jordan Love, who we know is good.

(05:03):
Don't know about any of the others. So like, I
feel like the Ravens are done. But the sad fact is, Rob,
they've the schedule really works in their favor.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
All their tough games are out of the way.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
They already face Buffalo Detroit KC the Rams next week. They,
by the way, have given up over thirty points in
four of five games. That is absolutely embarrassing for John Harbaugh.
I'm still not on board with him getting fired or
any of that nonsense. But they are the first team

(05:35):
in the Super Bowl era to allow thirty seven or
more points in for their first five games. Derrick Henry
is just he's not running.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Everybody's hurt. That being said, the division rob is kind
of a joke.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, I will say that to what you started off
for talking about the Browns. If you could combine Cleveland's
defense with Baltimore's offense, you'd have a hell of a
team problem. Yeah, Cleveland you can't score, and Baltimore against
not Anyboddy. Therefore, one team's really bad and one team
is embarrassingly bad.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yes, if you want to look at the glass half full,
they could make some noise assuming you come out of
the buyer weekend. Lamar Jackson is healthy because you can,
as we saw with Joe Burrow last season, you can
win shootouts on your way to a nine and eight,
ten and seven type season. That is entirely possible. You're
not gonna make any noise whatsoever in the playoffs because
that defense is horrible, but you could theoretically, you know,

(06:30):
make a run of the postseason, especially since you have
all your vision games coming up. And to your point,
the division is not good period. Don't Steelers fans keep
your mouth shut. Your team's not any good. Where I
am concerned though, is I don't even know if you
saw this because there was so much, you know, especially
with the Cardinals and all that thing that happened there
in the postgame show. Kyle van Neu, who was their

(06:51):
veteran leader on defense, Okay, first thing they ask him
about is all the injuries. He's an no, no, no excuses.
The Niners play with the bunch of injuries and they won.
We have no issues to play that bad. Perfect great answer,
That's what you'd expect from your veteran leader. Later they
ask him, do you think the messages are coming through
from John Harbaugh and defensive coordinator Zach Orr.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Here's the beginning of.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
His answer, Uh, that's probably a question that's above my
pay grade. And then he eventually word salad is the
way to I think their messaging is fine. That doesn't
mean that the messaging is fine. That means that John
Harbaugh and or Zach Orr is completely losing That locker
room right now. Whatever it is they're saying during practice,
during film session, during the pregame, during the post game

(07:35):
is not resonating with this team. And that's the only
excuse I can come up with, because everybody's hurt, like
the Niners were hurt. You know, teams get hurt. The
Dak Prescott had four new offensive linemen and still find
a way to put a big.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Numbers, didn't get sacked one spot, My gyen not get.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Sacked at all, and they find ways to compete. The
Ravens are not even competing right now. It's like they've
quit on the season and we're not even in mid
October yet there's something going on in that locker room.
I don't know if it's John Harbaugh. You know, sometimes
you just need a fresh new voice, cause guy's been
there for so long. Unless we forget he was on
the hot seat before Lamar Jackson got there, and him

(08:12):
turning to Lamar Jackson when he did it was basically
seen as the last ditch effort to save his job. Now,
thankfully for him, Lamar Jackson is a stud and it
all worked out. So either him or the defensive coordinator
is doing or saying things that's rubbing people the wrong way.
They don't believe in the scheme, they don't believe in
the messaging. And you know, lest Lamar Jackson puts a
superman cap which he's capable of and leading this team

(08:34):
down the stretch out of the bye week, there's gonna
be some big changes coming to Baltimore relatively quickly.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I find it hard to believe that they would run
him out. But that is interesting from Van Noyley. That's
not great. Maybe things are stale, but ooh, that's listen.
He did make a good point. There are injuries around,
like Tampa Bay was without Mike Evans and without my
guy Bucky Irving and fantasy. They went to Seattle to
face an defense and rang up. Let me just get

(09:02):
it right, twenty five first downs, four hundred twenty six yards,
seven point three yards per play and got the win,
four of six in the red zone. So yes, everybody's
begged up. It's tough to win when you rerive your horses.
Just don't tell that to rob these Raiders who didn't
have Rock Bowers or Michael Mayer and lost forty to six.
And I don't even I think Kenny pick is probably
gonna start next week, but nobody gives a shit about

(09:24):
your Raiders.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
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Speaker 2 (09:37):
A lot of.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
People that I respect and are smart are really gassed
up about the Detroit Lions. Now, I have to admit
I have a couple buddies who listen to this podcast
and are hardcore Lions fans. Okay, they smoked the Bengals.
I had the Bengals in the contest, two and two
in the contest. I have the Jags tonight. I'm just
an idiot. I went five and one on the headline

(09:59):
picks on the Herd. I won money this weekend, and
then I got to deal with this crap because I
you know, picking five is tough, and and you know,
you get in your head and you're like, oh, the
Bengals great.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Jake Browning is terrible. So the Lions look good, right?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
They last five four games, they scored thirty seven, thirty four,
thirty eight fifty two.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, so everybody's crowning them. Well, here's what I want
you to do.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
I'm gonna read off the teams that the Lions have beaten,
and I know you can only beat who's in front
of you, and then I'm gonna give you their record.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Okay. So they lost to Green Bay, who was two
one and one. They beat the Bears, who have two
and two.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
They beat the Ravens, who are now, as we just said,
one and four. They beat the Browns who are one
and four. They beat the Bengals, who are two and
three and winless without Joe Burrow. I don't the Lions
haven't played anybody. Can we just reserve judgment until they
face Kansas City next Sunday night? Okay?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Is that is that allowed?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
And Nelsen, I don't know if Kansas City is good.
I don't personally think they're good, but they did just
smoke the Ravens, who we don't think are good last week.
But the problem, rob when you play this game is
the more you do it, you start to realize that
nobody's really that good.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yes, I thought Buffalo was good.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I mean it feels like socialism has really run amuck
this season in the league. I thought Buffalo is good.
I mean they just let the Patriots come in to
their place, push them around, and then let Drake May
go six for six in the fourth quarter, including the
game winning drive, and they just.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Settle for a fifty two yard field goal which was banged.
Like are the Bills that good? You know?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I mean, you could make an argument so far the
Colts have been the most impressive team in the league.
You know, we'll get to the Eagles shortly. But it's
a legitimate question, you know. I asked that about arch
Manning a lot before his first start. Is do we
know if archs Manning is good? And that proved accurate.
Do we know if anyone in the league is that good?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
No, we don't.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
And that's a question that I remember I was asking
on Friday when I was filling co hosting The Odd
Couple on Fox Sports Radio Monday through Friday four to seven,
me a Pacific shameless plug and after the Rams game,
because you know, with Calvin Washington, he does work here
in LA and Spectrum Sports and has a lot of
ties to the Rams organization, And I asked him point blank,

(12:21):
I don't I don't think the Rams are any good,
Like I can't say for sure if they're any good
because if you look at their wins, you have what
is now viewed as a good win against Indianapolis, but
you talked about it on the podcast. Eighty Minutchell drops
a ball going into the end zone and then you
have a phantom holding call in the game winning just
Jonathan Taylor touchdown. So maybe that goes a different way
if we don't have those two players. Number one, after

(12:42):
that they beat or before that, they beat Houston, who's
not any good, they beat Tennessee, who's not any good,
and then they just lost to a banged up Niners team.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
So it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
How I feel about them, But you started talking about
the Detroit Lions, and I agree with you. It is
hard to tell if anybody's good right now, right because
we thought Buffalo was good and then they landing on
a football. The one thing I will give the Lions
credit for is when they play and also ran team
unlike what you get from the Chiefs, unlike what you

(13:13):
get now from Buffalo, unlike what you get this season
suddenly from Baltimore, unlike what you get from Philadelphia. They
blow the doors off those teams, the bottoms of the league.
They will tune it up and fantasy football them to death.
They will ring up five hundred plus yards and forced
twenty eight turnovers and it's going to be great. Just
from Sunday's action right, first time in Detroit Lions franchise

(13:36):
history they did a game with three picks, two sacks,
two forced fumbles into safety. It never happened before. Through
the first five games, the Troy Lyons have set franchise
record in points, scores and t scored through the first
five games.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Here's my favorite stat.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Jared Goff, who some call a system quarterback because doesn't
have the elite trades and got the big arcosn't got
the mobility. Right through the first five games of this season,
he joins one other coquarter back in completing at least
seventy five percent of his passes, throwing for at least
twelve touchdowns with a total passer rating of over one
hundred and twenty. Jared Goff this season and Peyton Manning's

(14:11):
MVP season twenty thirteen when he threw for like fifty
five touchdowns. So again, I don't know if they're any good,
but when they have played the bad teams, they beat
the ever loving shit out of them, and that's all
I can ask you to do. So, Yes, if you
would have to ask, I would say that Detroy Lazerk

(14:32):
good team.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, I think they're They're certainly up there. I need
to wait and see with them. If you're asking me
the best team in the league, I still think it's
the Eagles, But just given what we've seen this year,
I think two has to be either Indy or Tampa.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm sorry, I think it's got to be one of
those two. Bills have not looked super impressive. They would
probably be four Chargers for.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Their big win was a comeback win against Baltimore, team
we find out now sucks, right.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, like we don't know that Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I mean, Baltimore was kind of healthy in Week one,
so that way I think looks better.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
But like since they have, they just haven't been great.
Let me just quickly on the Eagles. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I had Broncos in this and I just just disappointed.
It's seventeen to three in the fourth quarter. I'm like,
oh gosh, freaking bon Nicks can't deliver. And for the
like you know, I was getting ready to go to
this Chargers game, and for the life of me. I
still don't really know when the game turned. But this
is what I do know about the Eagles. Nobody plays

(15:36):
with their food better than Philly. So they get the
touchdown to open the second half to go up seventeen
to three. Their next possession five plays twenty three yards punt,
three plays negative sixteen yards punt, three plays negative six
yards punt.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Well, guess what the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
You give them enough time and teams around this league
are gonna are gonna wake up now.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Denver was gonna tie it up, but decided to take
the lead.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
With the two point conversions. And then I think, if
we're being one hundred percent honest, the Eagles beat themselves.
So I tried to break down the two plays the
best I could. So they're going they have a pivotal,
uh possession. It's like, I think it was third and

(16:19):
third and something, and they chuck it to DeVonta Smith
on the sideline or Naylor, one of these guys, and
he makes the catch and it's like, oh, what a
pass by hurts. But there's a flag and I was like,
is it holding? No, it was an illegal shift on
Saquon Barkley. He like went out to the side by
the wide receivers, then came back and I guess he

(16:40):
wasn't in set. That's just a mental mistake on Saquon's part.
But instead of the instead of the conversion, they got
a fun right. So then the next one is Denver's
looking to ice the game third and two, a little
dump off and they make a great tackle, sure of
the sticks, so setting up fourth and two and really
tough decision. But at the end of the play, zach On,

(17:01):
just like Saquon, a star on this team, mental error
comes in with a late shot to the head while
the guy's down fifteen yards automatic first down, Denver's of
kicking the field goal.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's a wrap.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
So I'm gonna say I believe, and I know you
guys aren't gonna like this. I believe the Eagles beat
themselves in the fourth quarter. Their lack of killer instinct
is a little discerning because it's a weekly check in. Now,
I've gotta go through the aj Brown five catches forty

(17:32):
three yards on eight targets. DeVonta Smith was the big
deep threat, but Sequon still can't do anything on the ground.
Six carries for thirty yards, Saquon Barkley is still with
zero explosive carries on the season, Like, what's going on here?
This is not good at all. The reason I still

(17:53):
have them one is that defense is filthy. It's it's incredible.
I mean, I do think they have a bit of
a cornerback.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Two.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I don't know if they go out and make a move.
But frankly, this Land and Dickerson injury is troubling. Obviously,
the offensive line is the key. There's no drama around
the tush push. I don't know, rob Jalen Hurts got
sacked six times. Denver's a bit of a sleeping beast here.
Do you think the Eagles are the best team in
the league?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Oh God, that's a tough question.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
No, I don't think so because and it's a lot
of everything, because of what you said about the whole
A J.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Brown situation.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
As long as they have that hanging over their heads,
I don't think they're gonna reach their full potential because
you I, everybody knows they are at their best when
they are running the football, whether that's with Jalen Hurts
or Sagwan Barkley or some combination of the two. That's
when they are at their absolute pinnacle. Even if you know,
three yards three yards, three yards and then tush push

(18:54):
or three yards four yards, and then Jalen Hurts makes
some kind of play on third down there just enough
to get a first down kit and moving the ball control,
so on and so forth, with this whole AJ Brown
situation where he cannot stop talking, and even on a
big deep play where he has a stop and go
could have been eighty or touchdown, and on the replay

(19:15):
it looks like he slows down and the ball is overthrown.
And you know, it is what it is, right, guys,
miss miscommunication, It is what it is. Yeah, AJ Brown
after the game quote. From my point of view, it's
just a miss that sounds to me like he's throwing
his quarterback under the bus.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
You know that's my.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Untrained year telling you that. And it's interesting that now
Jalen hurts and this is not just the Jalen Hurts thing.
This is more of an Eagles thing, But Jalen Hurts
in his career when he attempts forty more passes oh and.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Five oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
That's a good stat hold on when he announces more
than forty yes, or excuse me, oh and four, because
yester he had thirty eighth and four.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
So yesterday on Sunday, thirty eight pass attempts eleven rushing
attempts for Philadelphia. That is not how they win. That
them going out of their way to placate AJ Brown
and Devonte Smith, because there was a bunch of comments,
both on the record and off the record from those
two guys that led to this happening. And it's fitting

(20:12):
in a game where they decide we're gonna get away
from what we do and we're gonna do everything we
can to keep those guys happy that they lose for
the first time in eighteen plus games, Like, as long
as they have to play this balancing act where they
have to please these two guys, specifically A J. Brown,
whether that Devanticcus DeVante is more quiet, he does it
behind the scenes. If they have to keep doing that,

(20:32):
they're never going to reach their full potential. And that's
why I say I don't think they're the best team
because I don't see this going away anytime soon, and
I don't see them trading AJ Brown because of the
salad cap implications.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
This is gonna be a weird tug of war all year.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
So yes and no. So Dallas, you know it looks
better than we everybody thought they would be right.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
They smashed my Jets. There they are.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Listen, man, they're putting up like you said with the
lion smashing the bad teams. Well, the Cowboys are moving
the football against the bad teams. They did have the
hiccup against Chicago or whatever. They really forty points against
Green Bay was impressive, and then they just shelled the Jets.
But Eagles played Dallas, then at KC versus the Rams,

(21:17):
at Tampa versus the Broncos. Last year, Denver made the playoffs,
Tampa made the playoffs, Rams made the playoffs. Chiefs made
the playoffs. So they've had one of the tougher schedules.
This is why I think it's not going to be
a huge story here the next few weeks.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
The Eagles now visit the New York Giants.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
That's a win. They are not good. They're gonna annihilate
Jackson Dart at Minnesota could be a good game. Let's
see where the Vikings defensive offensive line is. It held
up decently well, against the Browns, but Eagles are good.
I think the Eagles should push them around, and I
don't know if McCarthy's going to be back. And then

(21:58):
the Giants again, So they have the Giants twice in
the next three weeks. Rob Spencer Rattler against the Mighty
Giants defensive front sex zero times.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Like Spencer Ratler was fine.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
You know, the Giants, Jackson Dart it was a one
week honey moon, as predicted. I tried to tell everybody,
you know, Jackson Dart I think had two picks, and
these aren't like the Justin Herbert tip where it's like
pit tipped and intercepted, none of that. CRAF his just
straight up shit passes and then he's running and scrambling
because he's always running for his life, and he fumbles.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'm not a Jackson Dart hater.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
I'm just a Jackson Dart realist, and I'm just telling
you guys like I don't see it. No Molak neighbors.
I think they're very susceptible. Brian Dabele had some good
scripted stuff yesterday, but the reality is this team's.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Just not very good.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Rob.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
I don't I don't think they were a thread at all.
I think the Giants get right next week again.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
So yeah, well, I mean the Giants may have been
my big miss of the year, just like the Jets
one of my big miss the last two years. Maybe
it's just stay away from New York football, because yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
That would not be Let me ask you a thing quickly.
Since we got to talk about the Jets, well we
don't have to. But so they had Sam Donald and
now he looks like like a stud quarterback they had
as I have a great stat about Sam Donald. He
got a second yeah, quickly, just because give him some flowers.

(23:20):
Even though they lost the game.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Sam Donald now has sixteen starts out of his last
twenty two with one hundred plus passer rating, tied for
most of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
So he's good. He's really good. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Horrible with my Jets. Aaron Rodgers with the Jets could
not do anything right. And I'm not saying he's great
with the Steelers, he doesn't grade out as good, but
so far they're winning and like I would have taken
that with the Jets. Okay, if you are pegged as
the number one quarterback and you're saying Dante more, do

(23:54):
you consider just staying in school to avoid my Jets.
I have to ask it. It's an honest question. They
are the only winless team in the league. The defense
under Robert Salad at least like tackled people and was competitive.
These guys stink.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I tried to trade chrouss Gardner last week and know
people were like, you're crazy. Stop.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
I mean he get cooked by pickings today, another penalty
miss tackles, Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
They're just not go to defense.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Like, I don't know, if you're the number one pick,
if you're Dante More, do you stay at Oregon for
another year or do you just you come out and
roll the dice with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I don't know the answer. I don't. I don't think
it's gonna be as easy as we all do.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
No, and I all changes everything because these guys can
make that kind of money and then some in college
these days. By the way, Aaron Glenn, Jets head coach,
is now oh and five on the season. He is
now the statistically the losing his coach, and in Jets
franchise history, no other coach has ever started oh and five.
That yes, including the legendary Adam Gase. They're also oh

(24:56):
and five with no forced turnovers, which is pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Center.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
He's a defense of coach, but he keeps cutting kick
returners if that matters, right, that's gonna send a message.
Let's cut the guy who is on the field six
times a game. But the defense is getting carved up
and the offense can move with the ball to they
down thirty three.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
You see the Breeze Hall fumble. So Jets are down
ten three and they're going in. I mean they're moving
the football Will and Breecee Hall.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
It was it in the red zone. Let's see. Uh
it was.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, he was to the Dallas thirteen yard line, punched
out fumble, and from then it was game over. Cowboys
ninety one yard touchdown drive, Jets punt Cowboys two plays,
sixty seven yards, touchdown, twenty three to three. It was over.
Never remotely got interesting. I don't even want to talk
about it.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
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Speaker 4 (25:56):
We'll wrap up with this Rob the Air Arizona thing.
And since we're being honest, I've watched this with my buddies.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
So we had two entries in Survivor.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
We had the Colts and they were home, and then
we had the Cardinals and they're up twenty one to six,
and the whole time we're like, yeah, we don't trust
these guys.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
You know, they just mess around.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
They're not serious about like just putting your foot on
the throat like the Lions do, say. And then de Mercado,
who I had to start in fantasy because of bye week,
breaks off a seventy yard touchdown and this guy decides
I'm gonna show boat right as he's going into the
end zone, puts the ball out and some hustler catches

(26:40):
him and kind of knocks it out. And at the
time they say touchdown and I'm sitting there like, oh no,
but they put the touchdown on the board.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm like, oh, thank goodness.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
And then the refs start to review it and they
slow it down and you could just tell, oh my gosh, now, Rob.
My initial reaction was, oh my, how how Like You've
got to cut this guy?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
And I know people doubt Jason, come on, that's overboard.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
So a week ago, the Colts played the Rams and
Ada and I Mitchell did this and he fumbled and
it ended up really.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Costing them the game.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
He also had a holding penalty later that they get
into such jown, but that was a humongous hurt for
the Colts. Rob there's thirty one other teams in the league.
There's I would say every one of them showed the players,
guys just as an FYI, we don't do this.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Please stop doing this. Any player who does this, I
will you will be cut. Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
I don't care if your breese hall, I don't care
if your ceedee lamb. Do not celebrate early. We don't
operate like that. That is dumb football. This isn't about you.
It's about scoring in the team, right. I'm sure every
coach gave a variety or a version of that little speech.
So oh yeah, reminder, don't do that crap. DeMar Koo

(27:59):
does this and wouldn't you know it? Now he's a
third stringer. I'll give him that. But amazingly it led
to the Titans coming down and winning the football game. Now,
they did get some luck, but everybody needs luck when
when you stink like the Titans do. I mean, essentially,
Cam wod had a pass that was tipped and intercepted,

(28:21):
and I mean, this is almost difficult to describe.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm sure you've seen it by now.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
The guy who intercepted it was in his own ten
yard line and he kind of stumbles falls down and
as he's going down, the ball sports out and you're like,
oh my gosh, he was not touched. Then someone on
the Cardinals appears to recover it, but he can't secure it.
Then the ball gets kicked into the end zone, and
of course, as luck would have it, Tennessee recovers. They

(28:50):
don't get the two, so they're still down two.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Cardinals get the ball.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Rob, They're like, oh, our defense they've got this. Let
me just run the ball into the line three times.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Like what what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
They got two yards punted and cam Ward hit Ridley
on a bomb and they won the game. I wanted
to lead the podcast with this. Rob is like, nobody cares.
It's the Cardinals. You know, we don't care about your survivor.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Jason. The David Memory.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
If you were listening to the David Baker Survivor episode,
he bought into the one hundred thousand dollars. I think
It's called the Grindisimo in Vegas. So he was selling
off pieces and I was like, I'll take a slice.
So I took a slice and then ended up splitting
it with a buddy and we had the Cardinals and
we're out.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Now.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
I mean now he's out like ninety five thousand whatever
money amount he put in, So he's gutted. I'm gutted
to be part of that, But I'm also just embarrassed
for the league.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Like that kind of capped off Rob. What I thought
was just kind.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Of mediocre play, like nobody's we open talking, nobody's great.
We certainly know the Cardinals are not. The coach came
out and was like, one play doesn't lose you a game. Well,
I think the wrong coach. It did you get that
touchdown Rob to go up twenty eight six, it's over.
The Titans are not coming back from down twenty eight
to six with twelve minutes left.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
They're just not.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
That's impossible, especially for Tennessee, and to lose that, I
think they're kind of done in the division. Remember forty
nine ers now have wins over the Rams, Cardinals, and Seahawks.
Seattle's better than Arizona. They already beat them. The Rams
are better. I don't think they've played yet. So that's
just you can't lose to a winless team if you're
Arizona and the harbor hopes of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Not at all.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
And to your point, historically, in the last twenty five seasons,
teams that go ahead by twenty two points or more
in the fourth quarter, which that would have been if
they would have crossed the goal line with the ball
in Handy Mercado are one two hundred and seventy six
and one.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Who's the one lost.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
I have no idea, but that just goes to show you, yes, wow,
if you score that touchdown, the game is essentially over.
And I did love Kyler Murray. In the post game,
they asked them about the whole situation, the comedy of errors,
the fumble up the one, the interception, turn fumble, turn
touchdown for the defense. You know, I don't know how
he wanted to cat classify it. And he says, that's

(31:08):
quote how to lose a game one oh one. Yeah,
I'd sure say so. I mean, that was a comedy
of errors. It was embarrassing to watch. It was worse
than anything I've ever seen my nephew's Pop Warner team play.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I actually think it's one of the most shocking turn
of events I've seen ever in a game, because again,
it was twenty one six with like total minutes.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Left, and the Titans are not good at all.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
They couldn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Terrible, Like cam Ward is the most nothing against cam Ward,
but if this was any other number one pick, there's
at least some kind of you know, small print somewhere.
There's a little five minute segment on the Herd There's
something on the Herd line news whatever. Hey, you know,
cam Ward struggled again. He's complete frety percent of his
passes and the Titans lost again. No, no, nobody cares
about what's going on with cam wardan Titans, but they're

(31:57):
gonna care today because the way this game ended and
how and how ridiculous it was for Arizona. It is
hard to take that team seriously. We talked about it
a few weeks ago, like, I'm glad Marvin Harrison seems
to have snapped out of it. You know, McCray McBride
is fine, you know, but Kyler Murray has just become
a jag. Not like a Jacksonville Jaguar. But he's just

(32:19):
a guy two hundred and thirty yards a game. Basically
every week, it doesn't matter who they're playing, they're gonna
score anywhere between, you know, nineteen to twenty four points.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
That's just who they are.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
And it's fitting that they are the team that found
a way to blow this because I think they really
need wholesale changes in Arizona.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
I was gonna ask you, so, Arizona, you think the
OC's probably gonna get gone this week. Something's gonna happen
there this week. That's brutal loss.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But let me ask you. Let me go through a
couple others.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Do you think Jack Browning, who must be color blind
or he was, you know, shotgunning beers before the game,
do you think they look to the third stringer. I
don't even know who that is because he was that
bad against Detroit. I think this week that's probably one.
I think there's gonna be some I'm gonna be honest.
I think your boy Gino Smith is in trouble. Can
you get starting next week?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I mean, can you pick? It sucks too, but yes, probably.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
And then the last one, I'm sure they're gonna give
him more than one chance. But Cooper Rush just looked overwhelmed,
like he looked slow. I mean, he looked like, you know,
I know, he was solid as a Dallas backup, but
I did not see anything that was like, oh, there's
something there, Like Dylan Gabriel looked like he had some pop.

(33:34):
Carson Wentz was kind of teetering there taking some shots.
But the more I look at the landscape prob I
think mac Jones is gonna have a really big market,
And I'm real curious if he's like, yeah, I'm gonna
go and try to be the next Sam Donald going somewhere,
or he just stays in San fran because you know,
maybe pretty gets hurt again.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
That's a really good question. Of the team that you listed,
the one that I guess I'm most curious about is Baltimore,
not just because I picked him to make the super Bowl,
but because John Harbaughs we alluded to earlier, seems like
he's losing his edge a little bit. I would not
be shocked if they do everything they can to force
Lamar Jackson to play, and knowing that he's hurt, knowing

(34:17):
that he's bang of knowing he's like seventy percent, Like, hey,
we're playing the Rams.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Look what happened is against Houston.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
There is no way we can complete at all with
the Rams coming out of ten days rest lamar, I
need you get out there, like, I think that is
more likely to happen than they replace.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Cooper Rush or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
I'll tell you what wouldn't shock me at this point,
which I feel crazy even saying, is could you imagine
a scenario where a team like the Bengals right who
have become nondescript? You know, they're not getting discussed at
all anymore, that's how bad they are. Jake Browning's horrible.
Could you see a scenario where they or another team

(34:55):
calls Cleveland say can we get Schadour? If only to
sell tickets because we need some kind of in the building.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Oh no, I don't think anybody's traded for practice squad should.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Do at this point, not even just to sell tickets.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
People are more likely like Philip Rivers, Hey, you want
to stop coaching seventh grade football?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
What's the Monday night?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Got? Oh?

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Jags Chiefs? That was the first game I bet this week?
I bet the Jags like an idiot, US three. It
went up to three and a half. Now it's back
to three. Obviously, the Chiefs are gonna win. I do
not advocate backing my Jags play. I'm also in need
of fantasy stuff from Patrick Mahomes Harrison Butker, so I'm
rooting for that sweet sweet spot. A great game from
Mahomes twenty five fantasy points, great game for Butker, just

(35:39):
too much Brian Thomas and that Jacksonville Jags winning thirty
one twenty something along those lines. I don't have strong feelings.
These are usually games that the Chiefs win and it
but the game is in Jacksonville. Who's in Casey for sure?
At night they just forget about the Jags. I think
they'll be plucky. Let me just quickly check.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Oh ooh ooh, ooh ooh, this is good.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Chiefs have the Lions next week at Arrowhead, potential look
ahead spot. After Lions now are begating crowned as one
of the two or three best teams in the league.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
I would say, no, you're just the glad for punishment.
You just love the Jags for no good reason. There's
something about that group where you're like, you can't quit.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Them, Yeah, cannot quit the Jags. Anyways, all right, fun podcast.
We are back tomorrow. Maybe then we'll talk about UCLA
taking down, you know, Penn State. Maybe Jane Franklin to
get fired. He won't, but maybe we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
All right, See you

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