On today’s episode, Jason discusses why he believes it was a mistake for the Pittsburgh Steelers to give pass rusher TJ Watt a massive contract extension and why he wasn't a fan of the Portland Trail Blazers' decision to bring back injured point guard Damian Lillard for a two-year retirement tour. Later, Professional poker player and sports gambler David Baker swings by to discuss his road to the World Series of Poker, what it took to earn his fourth WSOP bracelet this summer, what led to the controversial decision by WSOP to ban William Kassouf for the rest of the year, which NFL season-long betting contests he plans to enter this season, why he has an early lean on a Baltimore Ravens vs Los Angeles Rams Super Bowl in 2026, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre,
Straight Fire for Friday, July the eighteenth. Oh boy, what
a podcast today is. You're gonna absolutely love it. Usually
he comes on to talk NFL David Baker because he's
such a good gambler winning contests in Vegas. But he
(00:32):
was just at the World Series of Poker. He got
another bracelet, folks. So sometimes, you know, we bring on
guys on the pod and I'm like, oh, Dave Baker.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
He's done well, yeah, cool, cool, awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
For the first time ever, I looked him up and
he has a Wikipedia page. I never had done that before.
For whatever reason, I just seen David Baker and the results.
His total career winnings in poker is like eight point
three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I was like, what I had. No, He's very humble
about it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So we talk about the World Series of Poker and
then some NFL stuff at the end.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Also, he's going to be doing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
A Survivor contest one hundred thousand dollars buying in yeah,
one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And he's going to be selling off parts of it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So you can kind of be on his side for
you know, a thousand dollars whatever it is, and I
think you guys are gonna love the pod. Before we
get to that, just a couple quick news and notes.
The Pittsburgh Steelers did what they normally do. They paid
a defensive player exorbitant money three years, one hundred and
(01:34):
twenty three million dollar extension. That is absolutely insane. I mean,
I would have traded TJ. Watt last year. They have
made in the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history
for the second time.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
He's thirty one. You're not close to a Super Bowl?
What are you doing again?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I know that sounds cutthroat, and I would move on
and Stealers fans up to hate that. I mean, one
hundred and eight mill fully guaranteed Jamar Chase's averaging forty
million year. TJ Wat's going to.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Now be a forty one.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So the biggest loser isn't the Steeler though. The biggest
loser is the Dallas Cowboys because they haven't paid Michael
Parsons and now you've got a top forty one mill.
I just I find it really dense that these things
are happening in the NFL. But you know what, some teams,
I guess they don't care that much about about getting
that much better. It's just puzzling to me. And then
(02:25):
I got a funny stat for you. Career earnings twelve years,
JJ Watt twelve years, one hundred and twenty nine million.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Watt's extension three years, one hundred twenty three million.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Just silly.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It really is goofy. But hey, Pittsburgh keeps their guy.
He's their number one jersey salesman, jersey seller. He's obviously
a very very good player, elite top five at his position,
no doubt about it. I just don't know where you're going.
I would have got off what I would have started
the rebuild. They're just perpetually kicking the can down the road,
hoping they never have to rebuild and they can fall
(02:59):
ass backwards into quarterback. I'm here to tell you, Aaron Rodgers,
he's not that guy.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
He's not that guy.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Pal.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And so the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know they paid TJ.
Wat Congrats to him. He's got more generational wealth. Anyways,
let's quickly move to the NBA before we get to
David Baker. This surprised me so the Bucks waved and
stretched Damian Lillard. Okay, Damian Lillard then could have had
the option to sign with the Warriors right on the
(03:28):
cheap because he's getting paid. He could have signed with
the Lakers, he could have signed with a contender.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
He could have gone anywhere on the cheap.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And obviously he's gonna be out next season, but he
could have been a valuable piece down the road. And
I mean, at thirty five years old, he doesn't have
a lot left. So you just saw Bradley Beal get
waved and stretch signed for five mil.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He's a great deal. So I'm thinking, oh, Dame, that
makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That is so genius. He could sign anywhere. The news
came out Damian Lillard has agreed to a three year,
forty two million dollar contract with Portland. I mean, there's
fifteen teams in the West. Portland is somewhere in the twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
To fifteen range.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Why are you signing Damian Lillard. He got a player
option for the final year and a no trade clause.
So essentially what Portland is saying is, hey, you asked out,
we gave it to you, but now we're letting you
come home. Now Obviously Lillard has family there. I guess
he went through a tough split with his wife, and
so he wants to beat the other kids and all
that makes sense. And you know, he's the greatest player
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in Portland history. Sorry Bill Walton, it's Dame Lollard, no
doubt about it. So this is like, you know, a
nice thing for a guy who brought them prominence. They
got to a Western Conference finals. They you know, they
didn't get to the NBA finals, but they never really
had that much talent around him. Here's what's crazy. He's
going to be coming off an achilles at thirty five.
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He's gonna make seventy million dollars between what he got
from Milwaukee and what he's getting from Portland in twenty
five twenty six. I just don't understand that none of
this makes sense at all. He's gonna rehab all year
and he'll get to do it in your family and
his kids, obviously, which is nice. But what on earth
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is Portland doing?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Where are you going? I mean, they.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Like, obviously he's not a starter at this stage in
his career, but if anything, to me, this is a
signal that they are unhappy with what they've seen some
so far from Scoot Henderson and Shade and Sharp and
down the road Dame can help him. But this is
the Blazer's depth chart, right, So Drew Holliday, remember they
traded for him. They've got a veteran and Drew young guy,
(05:47):
and Scoot young guy in Shad and Sharp, Danny Avdia,
who's a wing. I don't he's a no time All Star,
but he's a solid player. Matisse Thibol, the young kid
who is a three and D but you know, can't
really make threes consistently. Jeremy Grant somehow still in Portland.
You know, he's been a tradable contract that they have
been unable to trade. Donovan kling In, Robert Williams. I
(06:08):
like Chris Murray, the young kid out of Iowa. They've
got Yang Hansen. I don't really know where Portland is going.
Maybe they're playing right now. Hey, let me just get
as many guys in the building as we can. Good bad,
we'll see him. Camarow was pretty good for them last year.
Small Spurts, Ryan Rupert, who I know a little bit
(06:29):
from the new New Zealand Blazers. They've got a lot
of a lot of guys, but like they have nobody elite,
They've got a lot of Hey, that could be something
in a couple of years. I just don't know where
Portland's going, Like Chauncey Billups signing up actively to go
twenty seven and whatever the fifty something.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I don't I just I'm not totally sure what they're doing. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The good news is you get Dame the veteran. The
fans are gonna love them obviously, whatever that's worth. And
you could flip Drew Holiday at the deadline to a
contender who's like, hey, we're a missing piece away.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, let's go get Drew Holiday. It's in play.
So I don't know, but the news just keeps on coming.
You just what you think. It's a slow week, Things
get busy, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Anyways, without further ado, let's get to our guest poker
player NFL gambler David Baker.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows
everything when it comes to sports.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I know what sports fans want.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
All Right, let's welcome into straight Fire.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
One of the foremost football gamblers we have on the podcast,
but he also is a renowned poker player, and the
World Series of Poker just tappened.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
He played in it. It was kind of a wild
World Series of Poker. So we're gonna do a little both.
David Baker, How you doing, my man?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Oh, I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Just finished up our annual poker Summer Camp, where we
play poker tournaments for basically two months straight. And yeah,
so yeah, this is this is literally the first time
I've had to breathe for a few minutes and two months.
I pretty much play. Two months, I pretty much play.
(08:22):
I mean, I leave the house by eleven or twelve
every day and I don't I rarely get back before
one or two am. Takes me a few hours to unwind,
sleep for five six hours, get up to it again
the next day.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I basically do that for about fifty days straight.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Wait, so you're including weekends in this. It's not just
Monday to Friday.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh, it's every day. It's every day.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Gosh.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So I don't know, I don't know how Yeah, I
don't know how much you know about poker and the
poker scene and the World Series of Poker. But so
the World Series of Poker is it's not just one event.
A lot of people think World Series of Poker they
see it on ES or you know, they see it
on the news or something that it's one event. It's
highlighted by one main event, which is our ten thousand
(09:07):
dollars signature event that gets played on either CBS Sports
or used to be ESPN. That's kind of the one
that gets all the notoriety.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But it's a festival. It's one hundred tournaments over fifty days.
They start.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
They start two to three tournaments a day and they
run for anywhere from there's a few of them that
only go one day, and there's some that go five days,
and then the main event goes about ten days. But
each tournament is its own entity, and they give away bracelets,
which is basically the top prize that you can get
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as a poker player is winning one of these prestigious bracelets.
And the buy INDs range anywhere from I think the
smallest one was three dollars, was three hundred dollars this
year to as high as two hundred and fifty thousand,
so most of them fall in the fifteen hundred to
ten thousand dollars range.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
That's where that's where most of them, that's where most
of them fit.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And we play one hundred tournaments a year and they
range from one hundred people in the tournament to twenty
five thousand people in the tournament, just depending on the tournament.
And some of them are comprised of all pros and
some of them are comprised of mostly amateurs, but most
of them are big mix of everybody. And yeah, that's
our festival, and so each event has its own entity,
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but it's all within this one festival of poker.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Okay, So how did you perform?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I don't know if you want to get into details
on place you finished or winnings, but how did you
perform it? And it sounds like it was a drama
filled World Series of Poker. Rob g had texted me,
Oh my gosh, are you following this guy? They kicked
him out and I was like like no. So then
I started to read about it. I'm like, oh, Baker's there,
Let's bring them on.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
So, I guess tell me about specifically your experience here
in the last few weeks.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, so I played the World series for the last
over twenty years, and I usually do a full summer
where I play all the events, and I'm pretty sure
this is my best one I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I won one.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, I won one bracelet and I got a third
and I cast for a little over a million dollars,
so yeah, yeah, I cast for a million. I won
my fourth bracelet, which puts me in pretty exclusive company.
There's not a whole lot of people who have won
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four or more bracelets, and also all of mine have
come in Las Vegas in the summertime live they also
give some bracelets away, they do some online tournaments, and
they do some overseas, but the big festival, the one
that we all really count as like the prestigious bracelets
(11:55):
are the ones that are in Las Vegas in the summertime.
And yeah, I won four of those, and I won
my fourth one this year and it was my biggest
prize ever at the World Series. I won six hundred
and fifty thousand for that one, and last night I
had a chance to win my second bracelet of the year,
which would have been amazing. There's only a few handful
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of people who win two in a year. And I
finished third but I was in really good position to win.
I just had had to have one or two pots
go my way late, but they didn't. But still very
thrilled with the result. Brought me over a million dollars
for the year and made it just an amazing year.
(12:36):
But this year, yeah, this world series had it had
a little.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Bit of everything. So it was it was an extremely.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Compelling and interesting world series as a whole, and highlighted
by our main event, which is the ten thousand dollars
buy in main event. That that one had had everything.
I mean, there was so much drama and storylines and everything.
And what you're referring to is the person getting kicked
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out was a gentleman by the name of will cassoof.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He didn't really get kicked out, but he he has
Are you friends with him? No, I'm not friends with them.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Were you at the table with him when he was
doing his thing?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
I was not, But I've been at the table with
him before when he's done his thing. So he kind
of came to prominence in twenty sixteen. In twenty sixteen,
he made a deep run in the main event. But
he's an English He's an English guy, and.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
He has I don't know. I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I'm not a clinical psychologist, but I play one on podcasts.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But I mean he has he has you know, he
might have some disorders. Yeah, he might have some disorders.
But he came into prominence because he just loves to
talk and waste time at the table.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
And he he's also been known to I don't know,
insult or talk down to some players. He does it
in a way that some find engaging and funny. For
the casual viewer, it's somewhat engaging and funny, but when
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you're at the table, it's kind of unbearable because he
takes two, three, five, ten minutes per decision, and a
lot of times they're not even decisions at all. Sometimes yes,
and he basically slows the game down to a halt,
and he's constantly talking and talking and talking and talking
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and making trying. It's part of his game plan is
to make the other players feel uncomfortable. But what ends
up happening is the hand the table just gets very
few hands played, and it's all about him, and it's
kind of disrespectful to the other players. So at some
point the players stepped up and we're like, okay, we're
gonna call the floor over every time he's being dis
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respectful and wasting our time. And it ended up getting
to a point where they were like, Okay, you've been
worn enough time. You have ten seconds to act on
every decision you have to make, which they're playing for
ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And he was very deep.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I think he finished like thirtieth or thirty third or
something like that. But there he's very deep in this
poker tournament where you know you're playing for millions of dollars,
and then he kind of worn out as welcome.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It's kind of like, you know, it's it's kind of
killing Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, it's kind of like in Dominkin Sue, Like, you know,
you can only step on guys so many times, and
then if if there's just the illusion that you might
step on the guy or that you might hit him
later or anything. Draymond Green perfect example. Actually that's probably
the best example. You know, he's done so many things
that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. Like
if he's just going up for a hard rebound and
(15:53):
it looks like he may have elbowed somebody like quick
tea quick ejection, you know, he questions a call and he's,
you know, to the official, you know what, I didn't
do anything.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You're out.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But that's kind of the Wilkersoof treatment. He kind of
got the Draymond Green treatment, which we all think he deserved.
But on the flip side, then it was very difficult
for him to play his game because he didn't.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Really have the time that was necessary.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
But ended up where he ended up getting like thirty
third or something, and they promptly banned him for the rest.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Of the World Series because he was disrespectful to the floor.
He's disrespectful to the players, and it was it was
right ruling. I'll be interested to see what they do
moving forward.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It's got to have a clock.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I mean, you have to have some kind of clock.
Six minutes for a call, I mean, that's that's insane.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Well, I mean he would spend six minutes tim And
the thing was the poker tournament plays like it. It's
okay if you're going to take time for a decision.
Everybody has afforded a little bit of a time and
a grace period to make their decisions.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, but when you're wasting the time when you have
no actual decision. Now, you're just stealing our time. So
you know, there's arguments for clocks and not clocks.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
You know, that's probably for a different day, and it's
a little more nuanced than probably viewers on this show
would want to get into. But there are tournaments that
f clocks shot clocks and they work well. This one doesn't,
and it works well for the most part. It's just
he was a little over the board of being selfish.
So yeah, and uh, I don't think we're gonna have
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to worry about him for a little while. I think
you're basically more out as welcome at the World Series.
But yeah, that's kind of the Wilkers new story in
a nutshell.
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Speaker 3 (17:56):
I know a lot of people are.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Listening to this and being like, damn, dude, four brace,
So that's amazing. Is there an overriding strategy you can
talk about? I know, I love to pick your brain
with this when it comes to NFL Weekly Contest.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But poker's a little bit different because so many.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
People can play online now to get better, But is
there like an overarching strategy that you can lay out for.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
For tournaments like this.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, there's a lot of good content out there if
you're looking to either break into poker or get better
and poker.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
There's there are.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Training sites that are available that are great. My friend
Patrick Leonard has one. Pat's Poker, Doug Polk is a
is a great personality and upswing poker. Phil golf On,
one of the legends of the game, has one. Beyond
the game, there's there's there are plenty of places where
you can learn poker, but there's.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Still a lot of feel and just.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Understand situations and motivations and things like that, a lot
like the NFL. Like you know, there there are some
people who pick their games based on what the computer
models spits out, and then there are field players out
there who use that information, but they amend they amend
it based on things that they're witnessing and matchups and
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motivations and things like that that sometimes.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
The numbers don't see.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And the great thing about poker is there are a
lot of different strategies that you can be successful. Some
of the best players in our game are extremely studied
and they go by, you know, simulations and doing things
that are just statistically going to work X amount of times.
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And there are a lot of players in our game
that are super successful that strictly go off of reading
your opponent and getting tells and understanding situation, time, place, energy,
all that, and they're super successful.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
And then there are those that just do a blend
of the game. I would think I'm more of a
deal player, but I also blend in some things.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I understand the strategies and I understand some of the data,
but I'm much more of a I've been here for
twenty five years. I understand this, and I'm just one
of the best at my feel and my space and
understanding my time and space and the flow the game
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flow of the game. It's really hard to know which
one you are if you're not like in there. But
like I said, that's the great thing about the game
itself is there are so many different ways to win
at poker. If you're really good at studying and understanding simulations,
you can crush poker. And if you're just like one
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of those really good feel people, you can crush poker.
And if you're like mediocre, both you can be successful,
and you just have to adapt your own style. Some
people play really loose and aggressive and some people play
tight and conservative and those and everybody wins.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
It's it's kind of like in football.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Some teams are running teams, some teams are passing teams,
and some teams are defensive and some are offensive, and
you can win, but you just have.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
To be really good at what you do.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
I mean, we saw the Ravens in the two thousands
be great because their defense and just manage to get
by with a quarterback. And then we've seen the Mahomes
and Brady's of our era win because they're the greatest quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Like, there's just not one way to win at poker.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
And that's the thing that's so intriguing about it is
you have so many characters that can win with different styles.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, it almost feels like the kind of game where
you know how college football quarterbacks Bill Parcells had this
recipe you need certain number of starts and to get
ready for the pros. And I'll never forget brock perty
After two years at ioways say people are like, ooh,
this is the first round pick.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
This guy's got something, And then he really struggled as.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
A junior and then he ends up staying the full time.
He comes out, Wow, we've seen him. Bruck Perty falls
to the last pick in the draft, but then he
gets to the pros and he can blend everything. He's
got the speed, the moxie, the quick processing, the release.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
He can make almost every throw. Not a huge arm,
but all of a sudden you're like, oh, Wow, that
guy can kind of do everything. Is there any parallel
to football when it comes to poker.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Actually, that's a super great analogy and kind of the
arc type of a lot of poker players. A lot
of times they'll come in they'll be extremely raw and
they're just kind of out there flinging at Brett Favres style,
and they're out there flinging it and they have some
great results, and they didn't really know why.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
They were doing some of the things they were doing,
but they were just being.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Really aggressive at certain times and everything just kind of
fell into place and they won, and then maybe they
didn't have then they kind of fell off the expectations,
kind of got the best stuff on the poker world,
kind of like, oh, he's the next big thing, and
then they started doing things and people start figuring out
a little bit about their game plan, and then they
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start losing, and then they go back and they adapt
and they learn, and some fall off and they never
make it because they just get lazy and they think,
like the way that I've done it's always the way,
and some get better and then they have a resurgence
and they have their time back in poker. I don't
feel like I ever completely fell off, but I did
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do that. I came in and I had really good
results early, and then like I just kind of plateaued
a little bit, and then I said, you know what,
if I'm going to keep up with these guys, I'm
going to have to get a little I'm gonna have
to get better.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
And I went back into you know spaces where I
wanted to try to.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Learn through friends and through talking and through a little
bit of studying and practicing and just everything, and then
you know, kind of tailored my game.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And the game is always evolving.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
It's it's like, you know, once you're able to be
ahead of the ball game, just like in football, it's it's,
you know, the wishbone came into and then people figured
out how to beat the wishbone and then it was
passing attack and it's like last year we kind of
saw the resurgence of the running back because it was
a pass first league, and then people defenses were like, well,
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we're not going to allow you to pass.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
We're going to keep.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Everything in front of you, and we're going to put
more We're going to put more small defensive backs on
the field to stop you from passing it. So then
they started running it and we saw the resurgence of
the running teams. We saw Derrick Henry and and Saequon
Barkley and and Bucky Irving.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And I mean I don't know, I forgot about him already.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah yah, yeah, But basically, you know, the teams turned
to like more running backs and now we're going to see,
you know, how do teams how do defenses respond to that?
And it's just a constant thing of offense defense adjusting
and putting new game plans. And that's kind of how
the Poke landscape is.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, So did you play chess growing up?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Dates I didn't.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
No, I didn't, but I think chess is so, I mean,
chess is people. Some people say that poker solved and
like in a chess realm, but chess doesn't ever.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I think chess has a lot more like straightforward, like learning, memorizing, memorizing. Yeah, poker,
you can memorize some things, but when it gets down
to it, you're still you're not.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I don't know, I I guess I can't say. I
don't really want to say what chess says. It isn't
because I have not in the realm. But I feel
like chess is a more studied game, whereas poker, with
the range of players we play, you're playing people who
are not studied. So let's let's say, for instance, in chess,
if you have a good player versus versus a bad player,
the good player.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Is just gonna win every time. And in poker and poker,
the good player is not going to beat.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
The bad player right because the bad player has like
there is an element of luck. Still in poker, you
can get your money in good and you and like
the best you're ever really getting your money in a
lot of times is eighty twenty or seventy thirty or
sixty forty percentage base wise, So a lot of times
there's cards to come, so amateurs can suck out and
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win all the time, and they do. And that's the
great thing about our game is in the long run,
the pros and the skilled players will end up with
the money and will end up with the titles and
the glory, but amateurs win all the time.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Kind of like I'm golf. In golf.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You saw Chris Godder up last week in the Scottish Open.
He beat Rory McElroy. You know, is he gonna beat him?
He might beat him one out of ten times, you know,
or maybe even less. That's kind of how our game is.
Like as much skill as there is that you know,
big pros are always around the top of the leaderboard,
but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're not going to
have some amateurs mixed in and that some weeks the
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amateurs aren't going to end up on top. If you
have a chess tournament, you're never going to really have
an amateur is never going to win that usually.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I asked, because my son got into chess.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I got him into it, and you know, instantly he joins,
you know, tournaments and starts crushing people and rising rapidly
like oh my gosh, maybe this guy's a prodigy. But
then he hits like a Plateau struggles, we get him
a coach, and now he's making a second surge almost
kind of like a lot of these quarterbacks are the
analogy we talked about. So it is interesting watching people improve,
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and it sounds like, man, with poker, you're crushing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I do want to ask. Obviously, fifty days of poker
is a lot. You probably are not up to speed
on NFL. Have you started your prep work for the
twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
It's crazy. I want to be like super into, so
you know, on my way.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
To and from I'll alter date between poker podcasts and
football ones. So I've to some and I know some,
and my Twitter feed is obviously full of football stuff,
so I'm kind of up a little.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
But I've sent down multiple texts.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
When they were like great summer, great summer, and I'll
be like, yep, football season. So yeah, I'm ready for
football season. I'm not fully abreast of my opinions and stuff.
I've made one wager. That's the only thing I've done
all year.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Let's hear that. Let's hear it.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
The day DeVante Adams signed with the Rams, I bet
the Rams to win the NFC at fourteen to one
at CIRCA and currently it's eight to one, so I
got a really good number there. I figured the Rams
are kind of team that.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
When they go all in, I feel like they go
all in, and you don't sign Davante Adams if you're not.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Going to go all in.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
So I figured like that was a signal of I'm
willing to I'm willing to trade draft picks.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
We're going to go for it. If we're going to
bring back Stafford and we're going to bring in Devonte Adams,
we're going to go for it.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I like the obviously they have one of the best coaches.
They have a good nucleus of young players, the defense
has some good young people. I love Puca, Stafford, Davante.
I mean that's to me that that's a team that
can get it done. Stafford, I know you love Stafford
so super winning quarterback. So yeah, that's my only wager
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right now. I'll definitely have some Broncos stuff. Everybody knows
I'm a big bow Knicks fan, so I still think
they're undervalued in the market. But as far as other
things like that, my early leans are I kind of
feel like it's Baltimore's year. But I don't really like
the price that much. But that's my early thoughts. But yeah,
I'm ready to go for football season. I'll be loaded
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up for all the circle contests, the survivors, the pick contests,
and I'm going to be doing I don't know if
you've talked about on your show, but I'm going to
be doing the one hundred thousand dollars a Grand Decimo
Survivor contest.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Have you heard about that?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
No, one hundred thousand dollars buy in or payout.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Buy in.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Hundred thousand?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, I know?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So are you doing online?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
There is? So you know about the survivor count, the
Circus Survivor count. I mean, I know the Circus Survivor Yeah, okay,
So the Circus Survivor contest.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
For those that don't know, it's a one thousand dollars
survivor contest. Last year, the winner got fourteen and a
half million. It's a winner take all unless you get
to the end with multiple people and then it's chopped
amongst people.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That get there. This year, they're anticipating it's a fifteen
million dollar guarantee.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I've had some people say that they think it'll get
twenty million. My estimation is probably closer to seventeen million.
In the one thousand dollars one. Well, they introduced a
high roller this year called the Grand Decimo, and it's
one hundred thousand dollars survivor contest that Circus.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Sports is running. And I think I'm going to have
two entries.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I'm going to have one for sure at a hundred thousand,
and then there's I might do a second one, but
I'm not that big of a baller.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I will not have all of it. I'm going to
be selling shares.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Uh wait, hold, let me pause, hold on one. One
hundred thousand dollars contests? Are you you're going to have one?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Just yourself?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
What do youself?
Speaker 5 (31:27):
It's going to be my entry, but I'm not I'm
going to be the one making the picks. Me and
my partner Mark, who are we do all the contest
stuff together. We're going to be making the picks. We're
going to have sole discretion on the picks. But I
am going to sell.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Shares of pieces of Okay, the entry.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
What's the estimated pot or do they not have one yet?
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Well, so they're guaranteeing one and a half million, which
is fifteen entries, but I would I would take over fifty.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think they'll have over fifty entries. It'll be over
five million dollar pot.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Wait, hold on, hold on, let me do the math here.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
One hundred thousand dollars buy in for a five million
dollar pot versus one thousand dollars buy in for a
fifteen million dollar pot.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Although one will have fifty people, the other will have fifteen.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Hundred fifteen thousand people. Oh, fifteen thousand, yeah, fifteen thousand
times a thousand is yes.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I was not ready for math here.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, I mean beating fifteen thousand verse beating fifty. It's
it's different, but it's just kind of like one. Yeah,
it's one of those things where.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
You know, the fifteen million and the beating fifteen thousand people,
Like that's a dream and and it's fun and it's
amazing and like we all do it. But you have
to get through twenty weeks of picking people, eighteen weeks to.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
The NFL season.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Plus they also have you have to pick an entry
on both Thanksgiving and Christmas. I hate, but that's the
that's their way of littling it down for the Grand
Decimo to win.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Like you, it might be over week eight or week
ten depending on upsets, so you don't have to go
quite as far. So what have you have you placed
shares yet?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
For the one hundred k? I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Maybe that's a better investment than me doing the one
thousand dollars Survivor I don't think I would do that anyway.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
So I'm not going to charge any juice or anything
with a percentage that you want to pay in, You'll
get if you want to pay See, I'm just basically
I'm taking a waiting list now, an interest list, So if.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You would like to have a piece, or is there
a minimum?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Uh, you know, probably probably a thousand would be probably
a thousand thousand or two thousand if I do one
entry or two entries, just kind of depends on how
many people I get that have interests, because I would
like to get as many people involved as possible.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I'll be selling.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Shares both individually through you can reach me online on
my Twitter account or my dms are open, or you
can text me if you know me or whatever. But
also I'm going to probably be selling shares on site
that I work for Survivor Sweat, which we're also the
largest proxy service for the contests. So if you're doing
if you want to do the Circle Survivor contest, get
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in touch with this At Survivor Sweat. You can use
code word ODB for a discounted rate on your proxies.
But we have a marketplace over there for and buying
and selling shares of Survivor entries, so I'll probably post
a little bit on there as well. So if you
don't want to go through me directly, you can go
through our site, Survivor Sweat, and I'll have the entry
on there.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
But basically I'm going to I'm one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Doing one entry for one hundred thousand. I already have
an interest list that has you know, some people. But
if I get too many people on the interest list
for the one hundred thousand, then I'll just do two
entries and I'll just divide up your shares based on that,
because I want as many people riding with me as possible.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
So if we get near the end and we have
a great sweat, everybody can come to Circa and you know,
I'll make a deal. You know, we'll put everybody up
in rooms or or get you know, get them to
give us a discounted rate, and we could sweat the
football games together and have ten, fifteen, twenty people they're
sweating for five, ten million, whatever it is. I think
it'd be a lot of fun, and I want to
do it.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
So had a great year and a lot of people
like to ride with me, and some of the gambling
endeavors I do, So this is kind of a way
to get some fans involved and stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So let me ask.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Okay, so since you're you're up on the math, I
don't have my calculator out. Let's just hypothetically fifty people
enter one hundred thousand dollars contest, so it pays out
five million. If somebody bought a two thousand dollars chunk
of yours, and you want what would that two thousand
turn into.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Well, let's just say I do one entry, just for
ease of math, that would be two percent, so you
would get two percent of let's say five million, so
U one percent is you'd get one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So you could turn two thousand into one hundred thousand, all.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Right, five and five million, five hundred thousand would be
ten per one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, that's that's not terrible.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
That.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, that's.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
If we do two entries. You know, we'll we'll figure
out if So.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That gets tricky though, I mean because like if you
do two entries and one cash is to the other
dozen't and you were like on the wrong entry.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
No, no, no, that's not that's not how I'll do it.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
If you could, if you say, if you if you
tell me, you know, David, I want to invest two
thousand in Uh. If I do one entry, you'll have
two percent. If I do two entries, you'll have one
percent of each.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Okay, So that makes sense. Listen, that might not be bad.
I'll have to run up by the wife. We'll see
what she says about tailing you in that. Obviously I'll
be in the contest.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
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Speaker 2 (36:59):
Real quick, we can wrap up with so you know
Adam Churnoff, he was on here and I don't know
if a year ago if you remember, but he said
he liked an Eagles chief Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
So before the season, I bet Eagles to beat the Chiefs.
In the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I forget if it was like twenty eight to one,
whatever the odds were. I had the ticket, you know,
under lock and key, and it hit.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Eagles beat the Chiefs. So it was an awesome So.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's going to pay for all my contests that I'll
be entering here next month. Do you have an early
It sounds like you like Rams Ravens. Huh.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
If I had to say anything right now, I would
go I would take Rams over Ravens. But you know,
that's just taking the odds out of it.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I would like to.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I mean, everything has a percentage chance of happening, so
I just really need to go in and figure out
is are the percent or is there a better value
you bet on the board than that? But just my gut,
my football instinct taking odds out of it, I like
the Ravens to beat the Rams in the Super Bowl.
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That's my July seventeenth or sixteenth prediction. I don't know
exactly what that would be. I'm saying the Rams are
eight to one to win the NFC and the Ravens
are probably three to one to win the AFC, So
parlay those together and then take the Ravens would probably be,
you know, a small favorite in the Super Bowl. So
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whatever that comes out to be, I don't know, probably
in the thirties to one range, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Not sure if it's if that's what it is. But
we had a who are your early leans?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Well, we had Aaron.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Shots on yesterday and he said the Bills over the
last five years are the best team according to their
numbers to not make the Super Bowl, and the second
best is the Ravens. So basically, those two teams are
knocking at the door and one of them is going
to de throw on the Chiefs. I lean Bills, but
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it's probably recency bio.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Remember that if Mark Andrews catches that, you know, it
doesn't drop that two pointer.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
I don't mean yeah, I mean I really feel like
that game ran out as horribly as possible for the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah. But well, here here's the Bowl case for the Bills.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
They play in an extremely weak division, which means their
record is probably going to be better than the Ravens,
which means they're probably going to get the buy, which
means they're probably going to have home field advantage plus
a week off.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
That's that's if I was making a bow case for
the Bills. That's what I would say if I'm making
a bowcase for the Ravens. I just think they're better
across the board. I just think they're better coached. I think,
I mean, I think.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Lamar and Josh are are fairly similar in UH skills
and ability. I just I feel like the offensive weapons
on the Bills are much worse than the Ravens. I
really like, I really like just the skill position players
across board. I like the defense on the Bills better,
I mean on the Ravens better. I feel like the
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Ravens have more money, draft capital, things available, and willing
to go out and make those big splashes during the
year if they need to. I just feel like the
Ravens have a little bit more than the Bills. But
you know, the Bills kind of being a favorite for
home field advantage is kind of a big deal. So
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obviously we can't discount you know, teams like Kansas City
and the Bengals and a couple of teams like that.
But you know, if you've listened to anything that I've
done over the last years, you know I'm not a
huge Kansas City Pat Mahomes gys so I'll be fading
the Chiefs this year, and they finally actually have a
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division with good opponents. So I think the Chiefs have
been bullied by an extremely weak division over the last decade,
kind of like the Patriots were. I mean, I'm a
huge Cobra, I'm a huge Tom Brady fan, and I'm
a huge I was a huge Patriots fan, so they
were bullied by that as well. But the Chiefs kind
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of been bullied by that.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I mean the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
When was the last time the Raiders were good? The
Broncos have been terrible for multiple years now. The Chargers,
you know, they can't get out of their own way.
Their coaching staff was horrific with Brandon Staley and and
so yeah, I think at the end of it, the
Chiefs just had a layup division.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
And this year, look, this Broncos team is for real.
The Chargers team is really good, and this Ravens team
is going to be improved too.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
And so they don't have the layups. They don't have
the layups. They don't have the layups that the Bills have.
And even for that matter of the Ravens, I mean,
the Ravens have two gimmes. The versus the Browns and
the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean, whatever you.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
Think about I think the Steelers are average at best.
I'm not I'm not buying into Steelers.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
So I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
The Bills don't have to face any of the top quarterbacks.
I'm pretty sure the best quarterback they face is like
Matt Stafford. I don't think they have to face I'm
pretty sure Burrow a little.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
More, don't they don't they play Lamar week one?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Wait, they do face Lamar? Yeah that was wrong.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I think they play week one?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, they open.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Against your right against Lamar. Oh, and they do play
Kansas City? Who am I getting that confused with? It
might be the Niners who have like the easiested That's
what it is.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
The Niners do have the easiest schedule.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
They don't face Lamar Mahomes. Who are the other two?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Would Burrow and Jackson? They don't face any of them?
And it's like, how is that even possible? So, I mean,
do you believe in the Niners are not?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Really? So that's that's an interesting question because like I
wanted to say no when I looked at everything, but
why Like why am I? Why am I so out.
Why would I be.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Out on the Niners like they have the bulk of
their team coming back. Trent Williams. I'm not sure how
healthy he is or what's his deal, but like if
he played, I think he's a big He's a big
folkrum is that the word?
Speaker 4 (43:02):
You know, He's a big.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
He's a big spot in the in the in the
economy of whether you think they're going to be good
or bad, as if he's healthy. I personally think Kyle
Shanahan's an excellent coach. Maybe he's not the best big
game coach, but just in general he's I like his schemes,
So yeah, they're good. The division is kind of mediocre.
That's kind of why I thought the Rams were good.
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I mean, Seattle is going to be good and competent,
but they're not great. And Arizona's good and competent, not great.
Niners good great, good, but competent not great, and same kind.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Of with the Rams. So I can see a lot
of things happening in that division.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
All those teams are kind of seven ten to ten
and seven type teams, so we'll just have to see,
like when they play each other, how how they match up.
How they're how they are injury wise, because the matchups.
You know, when you have a division with this closely
aligned teams, it's kind of like when you face guys,
I mean, is Kyler banged up for the week that
he plays the Niners or is he not?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
You know, Uh, is Term Williams out that week? There's
gonna be a lot.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Of variants and when teams play each other and you know,
maybe did they come off of a hard game the
week before type thing?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
So yeah, all right, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Obviously, we'll get you more on NFL in August for
predictions and so forth. But I like this, uh, buying
into a chunk of your survivor there.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
I think the audience should pay close attention to that
one because.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Obviously, and you're every week.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah all right, Dave Baker superstar when it comes to
poker and NFL gambling. We'll talk to you, so man.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah, one more thing before we get out there.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
I started a podcast no Way and a friend of mine.
It's called Gamble Up. We have two episodes out already
and I'm going to be taping a third one right
after we're done with this.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
It's called Gamble Up. You can catch it on all your.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Podcasters, Apple, U, Spotify, So I'd love that we're on YouTube,
you can subscribe. I'm gonna be you know, it's it's
gonna be poker centric when poker's around, but football time.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
It's going to be all football.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Probably do a weekly talking about like what I've done
in the contest, what my bets are, what lean's are,
just some fantasy stuff, just anything gambling. So it's called
gamble up. If you look, the icon's got two dogs
playing poker on it. Find it on Apple, find it
on Spotify, on YouTube, and give us a listen and subscribe,
(45:35):
and and yeah, having back on your show right for
football season, we'll we'll shoot it up nice.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Congrats on the pod obviously, Dave, all right, thanks again,
all right, thank you
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre,
Straight Fire for Friday, July the eighteenth. Oh boy, what
a podcast today is. You're gonna absolutely love it. Usually
he comes on to talk NFL David Baker because he's
such a good gambler winning contests in Vegas. But he
(00:32):
was just at the World Series of Poker. He got
another bracelet, folks. So sometimes, you know, we bring on
guys on the pod and I'm like, oh, Dave Baker.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
He's done well, yeah, cool, cool, awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
For the first time ever, I looked him up and
he has a Wikipedia page. I never had done that before.
For whatever reason, I just seen David Baker and the results.
His total career winnings in poker is like eight point
three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I was like, what I had. No, He's very humble
about it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So we talk about the World Series of Poker and
then some NFL stuff at the end.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Also, he's going to be doing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
A Survivor contest one hundred thousand dollars buying in yeah,
one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And he's going to be selling off parts of it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So you can kind of be on his side for
you know, a thousand dollars whatever it is, and I
think you guys are gonna love the pod. Before we
get to that, just a couple quick news and notes.
The Pittsburgh Steelers did what they normally do. They paid
a defensive player exorbitant money three years, one hundred and
(01:34):
twenty three million dollar extension. That is absolutely insane. I mean,
I would have traded TJ. Watt last year. They have
made in the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history
for the second time.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
He's thirty one. You're not close to a Super Bowl?
What are you doing again?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I know that sounds cutthroat, and I would move on
and Stealers fans up to hate that. I mean, one
hundred and eight mill fully guaranteed Jamar Chase's averaging forty
million year. TJ Wat's going to.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Now be a forty one.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So the biggest loser isn't the Steeler though. The biggest
loser is the Dallas Cowboys because they haven't paid Michael
Parsons and now you've got a top forty one mill.
I just I find it really dense that these things
are happening in the NFL. But you know what, some teams,
I guess they don't care that much about about getting
that much better. It's just puzzling to me. And then
(02:25):
I got a funny stat for you. Career earnings twelve years,
JJ Watt twelve years, one hundred and twenty nine million.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Watt's extension three years, one hundred twenty three million.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Just silly.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It really is goofy. But hey, Pittsburgh keeps their guy.
He's their number one jersey salesman, jersey seller. He's obviously
a very very good player, elite top five at his position,
no doubt about it. I just don't know where you're going.
I would have got off what I would have started
the rebuild. They're just perpetually kicking the can down the road,
hoping they never have to rebuild and they can fall
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ass backwards into quarterback. I'm here to tell you, Aaron Rodgers,
he's not that guy.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
He's not that guy.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Pal.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And so the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know they paid TJ.
Wat Congrats to him. He's got more generational wealth. Anyways,
let's quickly move to the NBA before we get to
David Baker. This surprised me so the Bucks waved and
stretched Damian Lillard. Okay, Damian Lillard then could have had
the option to sign with the Warriors right on the
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cheap because he's getting paid. He could have signed with
the Lakers, he could have signed with a contender.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
He could have gone anywhere on the cheap.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And obviously he's gonna be out next season, but he
could have been a valuable piece down the road. And
I mean, at thirty five years old, he doesn't have
a lot left. So you just saw Bradley Beal get
waved and stretch signed for five mil.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He's a great deal. So I'm thinking, oh, Dame, that
makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That is so genius. He could sign anywhere. The news
came out Damian Lillard has agreed to a three year,
forty two million dollar contract with Portland. I mean, there's
fifteen teams in the West. Portland is somewhere in the twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
To fifteen range.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Why are you signing Damian Lillard. He got a player
option for the final year and a no trade clause.
So essentially what Portland is saying is, hey, you asked out,
we gave it to you, but now we're letting you
come home. Now Obviously Lillard has family there. I guess
he went through a tough split with his wife, and
so he wants to beat the other kids and all
that makes sense. And you know, he's the greatest player
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in Portland history. Sorry Bill Walton, it's Dame Lollard, no
doubt about it. So this is like, you know, a
nice thing for a guy who brought them prominence. They
got to a Western Conference finals. They you know, they
didn't get to the NBA finals, but they never really
had that much talent around him. Here's what's crazy. He's
going to be coming off an achilles at thirty five.
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He's gonna make seventy million dollars between what he got
from Milwaukee and what he's getting from Portland in twenty
five twenty six. I just don't understand that none of
this makes sense at all. He's gonna rehab all year
and he'll get to do it in your family and
his kids, obviously, which is nice. But what on earth
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is Portland doing?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Where are you going? I mean, they.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Like, obviously he's not a starter at this stage in
his career, but if anything, to me, this is a
signal that they are unhappy with what they've seen some
so far from Scoot Henderson and Shade and Sharp and
down the road Dame can help him. But this is
the Blazer's depth chart, right, So Drew Holliday, remember they
traded for him. They've got a veteran and Drew young guy,
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and Scoot young guy in Shad and Sharp, Danny Avdia,
who's a wing. I don't he's a no time All Star,
but he's a solid player. Matisse Thibol, the young kid
who is a three and D but you know, can't
really make threes consistently. Jeremy Grant somehow still in Portland.
You know, he's been a tradable contract that they have
been unable to trade. Donovan kling In, Robert Williams. I
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like Chris Murray, the young kid out of Iowa. They've
got Yang Hansen. I don't really know where Portland is going.
Maybe they're playing right now. Hey, let me just get
as many guys in the building as we can. Good bad,
we'll see him. Camarow was pretty good for them last year.
Small Spurts, Ryan Rupert, who I know a little bit
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from the new New Zealand Blazers. They've got a lot
of a lot of guys, but like they have nobody elite,
They've got a lot of Hey, that could be something
in a couple of years. I just don't know where
Portland's going, Like Chauncey Billups signing up actively to go
twenty seven and whatever the fifty something.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I don't I just I'm not totally sure what they're doing. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The good news is you get Dame the veteran. The
fans are gonna love them obviously, whatever that's worth. And
you could flip Drew Holiday at the deadline to a
contender who's like, hey, we're a missing piece away.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, let's go get Drew Holiday. It's in play.
So I don't know, but the news just keeps on coming.
You just what you think. It's a slow week, Things
get busy, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Anyways, without further ado, let's get to our guest poker
player NFL gambler David Baker.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows
everything when it comes to sports.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I know what sports fans want.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
All Right, let's welcome into straight Fire.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
One of the foremost football gamblers we have on the podcast,
but he also is a renowned poker player, and the
World Series of Poker just tappened.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
He played in it. It was kind of a wild
World Series of Poker. So we're gonna do a little both.
David Baker, How you doing, my man?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Oh, I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Just finished up our annual poker Summer Camp, where we
play poker tournaments for basically two months straight. And yeah,
so yeah, this is this is literally the first time
I've had to breathe for a few minutes and two months.
I pretty much play. Two months, I pretty much play.
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I mean, I leave the house by eleven or twelve
every day and I don't I rarely get back before
one or two am. Takes me a few hours to unwind,
sleep for five six hours, get up to it again
the next day.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I basically do that for about fifty days straight.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Wait, so you're including weekends in this. It's not just
Monday to Friday.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh, it's every day. It's every day.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Gosh.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So I don't know, I don't know how Yeah, I
don't know how much you know about poker and the
poker scene and the World Series of Poker. But so
the World Series of Poker is it's not just one event.
A lot of people think World Series of Poker they
see it on ES or you know, they see it
on the news or something that it's one event. It's
highlighted by one main event, which is our ten thousand
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dollars signature event that gets played on either CBS Sports
or used to be ESPN. That's kind of the one
that gets all the notoriety.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But it's a festival. It's one hundred tournaments over fifty days.
They start.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
They start two to three tournaments a day and they
run for anywhere from there's a few of them that
only go one day, and there's some that go five days,
and then the main event goes about ten days. But
each tournament is its own entity, and they give away bracelets,
which is basically the top prize that you can get
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as a poker player is winning one of these prestigious bracelets.
And the buy INDs range anywhere from I think the
smallest one was three dollars, was three hundred dollars this
year to as high as two hundred and fifty thousand,
so most of them fall in the fifteen hundred to
ten thousand dollars range.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
That's where that's where most of them, that's where most
of them fit.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And we play one hundred tournaments a year and they
range from one hundred people in the tournament to twenty
five thousand people in the tournament, just depending on the tournament.
And some of them are comprised of all pros and
some of them are comprised of mostly amateurs, but most
of them are big mix of everybody. And yeah, that's
our festival, and so each event has its own entity,
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but it's all within this one festival of poker.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Okay, So how did you perform?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I don't know if you want to get into details
on place you finished or winnings, but how did you
perform it? And it sounds like it was a drama
filled World Series of Poker. Rob g had texted me,
Oh my gosh, are you following this guy? They kicked
him out and I was like like no. So then
I started to read about it. I'm like, oh, Baker's there,
Let's bring them on.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
So, I guess tell me about specifically your experience here
in the last few weeks.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, so I played the World series for the last
over twenty years, and I usually do a full summer
where I play all the events, and I'm pretty sure
this is my best one I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I won one.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, I won one bracelet and I got a third
and I cast for a little over a million dollars,
so yeah, yeah, I cast for a million. I won
my fourth bracelet, which puts me in pretty exclusive company.
There's not a whole lot of people who have won
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four or more bracelets, and also all of mine have
come in Las Vegas in the summertime live they also
give some bracelets away, they do some online tournaments, and
they do some overseas, but the big festival, the one
that we all really count as like the prestigious bracelets
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are the ones that are in Las Vegas in the summertime.
And yeah, I won four of those, and I won
my fourth one this year and it was my biggest
prize ever at the World Series. I won six hundred
and fifty thousand for that one, and last night I
had a chance to win my second bracelet of the year,
which would have been amazing. There's only a few handful
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of people who win two in a year. And I
finished third but I was in really good position to win.
I just had had to have one or two pots
go my way late, but they didn't. But still very
thrilled with the result. Brought me over a million dollars
for the year and made it just an amazing year.
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But this year, yeah, this world series had it had
a little.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Bit of everything. So it was it was an extremely.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Compelling and interesting world series as a whole, and highlighted
by our main event, which is the ten thousand dollars
buy in main event. That that one had had everything.
I mean, there was so much drama and storylines and everything.
And what you're referring to is the person getting kicked
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out was a gentleman by the name of will cassoof.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
He didn't really get kicked out, but he he has
Are you friends with him? No, I'm not friends with them.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Were you at the table with him when he was
doing his thing?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
I was not, But I've been at the table with
him before when he's done his thing. So he kind
of came to prominence in twenty sixteen. In twenty sixteen,
he made a deep run in the main event. But
he's an English He's an English guy, and.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
He has I don't know. I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I'm not a clinical psychologist, but I play one on podcasts.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But I mean he has he has you know, he
might have some disorders. Yeah, he might have some disorders.
But he came into prominence because he just loves to
talk and waste time at the table.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
And he he's also been known to I don't know,
insult or talk down to some players. He does it
in a way that some find engaging and funny. For
the casual viewer, it's somewhat engaging and funny, but when
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you're at the table, it's kind of unbearable because he
takes two, three, five, ten minutes per decision, and a
lot of times they're not even decisions at all. Sometimes yes,
and he basically slows the game down to a halt,
and he's constantly talking and talking and talking and talking
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and making trying. It's part of his game plan is
to make the other players feel uncomfortable. But what ends
up happening is the hand the table just gets very
few hands played, and it's all about him, and it's
kind of disrespectful to the other players. So at some
point the players stepped up and we're like, okay, we're
gonna call the floor over every time he's being dis
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respectful and wasting our time. And it ended up getting
to a point where they were like, Okay, you've been
worn enough time. You have ten seconds to act on
every decision you have to make, which they're playing for
ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And he was very deep.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I think he finished like thirtieth or thirty third or
something like that. But there he's very deep in this
poker tournament where you know you're playing for millions of dollars,
and then he kind of worn out as welcome.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It's kind of like, you know, it's it's kind of
killing Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, it's kind of like in Dominkin Sue, Like, you know,
you can only step on guys so many times, and
then if if there's just the illusion that you might
step on the guy or that you might hit him
later or anything. Draymond Green perfect example. Actually that's probably
the best example. You know, he's done so many things
that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. Like
if he's just going up for a hard rebound and
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it looks like he may have elbowed somebody like quick
tea quick ejection, you know, he questions a call and he's,
you know, to the official, you know what, I didn't
do anything.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You're out.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But that's kind of the Wilkersoof treatment. He kind of
got the Draymond Green treatment, which we all think he deserved.
But on the flip side, then it was very difficult
for him to play his game because he didn't.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Really have the time that was necessary.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
But ended up where he ended up getting like thirty
third or something, and they promptly banned him for the rest.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Of the World Series because he was disrespectful to the floor.
He's disrespectful to the players, and it was it was
right ruling. I'll be interested to see what they do
moving forward.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It's got to have a clock.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I mean, you have to have some kind of clock.
Six minutes for a call, I mean, that's that's insane.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Well, I mean he would spend six minutes tim And
the thing was the poker tournament plays like it. It's
okay if you're going to take time for a decision.
Everybody has afforded a little bit of a time and
a grace period to make their decisions.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, but when you're wasting the time when you have
no actual decision. Now, you're just stealing our time. So
you know, there's arguments for clocks and not clocks.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
You know, that's probably for a different day, and it's
a little more nuanced than probably viewers on this show
would want to get into. But there are tournaments that
f clocks shot clocks and they work well. This one doesn't,
and it works well for the most part. It's just
he was a little over the board of being selfish.
So yeah, and uh, I don't think we're gonna have
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to worry about him for a little while. I think
you're basically more out as welcome at the World Series.
But yeah, that's kind of the Wilkers new story in
a nutshell.
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Speaker 3 (17:56):
I know a lot of people are.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Listening to this and being like, damn, dude, four brace,
So that's amazing. Is there an overriding strategy you can
talk about? I know, I love to pick your brain
with this when it comes to NFL Weekly Contest.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But poker's a little bit different because so many.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
People can play online now to get better, But is
there like an overarching strategy that you can lay out for.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
For tournaments like this.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, there's a lot of good content out there if
you're looking to either break into poker or get better
and poker.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
There's there are.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Training sites that are available that are great. My friend
Patrick Leonard has one. Pat's Poker, Doug Polk is a
is a great personality and upswing poker. Phil golf On,
one of the legends of the game, has one. Beyond
the game, there's there's there are plenty of places where
you can learn poker, but there's.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Still a lot of feel and just.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Understand situations and motivations and things like that, a lot
like the NFL. Like you know, there there are some
people who pick their games based on what the computer
models spits out, and then there are field players out
there who use that information, but they amend they amend
it based on things that they're witnessing and matchups and
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motivations and things like that that sometimes.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
The numbers don't see.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And the great thing about poker is there are a
lot of different strategies that you can be successful. Some
of the best players in our game are extremely studied
and they go by, you know, simulations and doing things
that are just statistically going to work X amount of times.
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And there are a lot of players in our game
that are super successful that strictly go off of reading
your opponent and getting tells and understanding situation, time, place, energy,
all that, and they're super successful.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
And then there are those that just do a blend
of the game. I would think I'm more of a
deal player, but I also blend in some things.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I understand the strategies and I understand some of the data,
but I'm much more of a I've been here for
twenty five years. I understand this, and I'm just one
of the best at my feel and my space and
understanding my time and space and the flow the game
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flow of the game. It's really hard to know which
one you are if you're not like in there. But
like I said, that's the great thing about the game
itself is there are so many different ways to win
at poker. If you're really good at studying and understanding simulations,
you can crush poker. And if you're just like one
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of those really good feel people, you can crush poker.
And if you're like mediocre, both you can be successful,
and you just have to adapt your own style. Some
people play really loose and aggressive and some people play
tight and conservative and those and everybody wins.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
It's it's kind of like in football.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Some teams are running teams, some teams are passing teams,
and some teams are defensive and some are offensive, and
you can win, but you just have.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
To be really good at what you do.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
I mean, we saw the Ravens in the two thousands
be great because their defense and just manage to get
by with a quarterback. And then we've seen the Mahomes
and Brady's of our era win because they're the greatest quarterback.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Like, there's just not one way to win at poker.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
And that's the thing that's so intriguing about it is
you have so many characters that can win with different styles.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, it almost feels like the kind of game where
you know how college football quarterbacks Bill Parcells had this
recipe you need certain number of starts and to get
ready for the pros. And I'll never forget brock perty
After two years at ioways say people are like, ooh,
this is the first round pick.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
This guy's got something, And then he really struggled as.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
A junior and then he ends up staying the full time.
He comes out, Wow, we've seen him. Bruck Perty falls
to the last pick in the draft, but then he
gets to the pros and he can blend everything. He's
got the speed, the moxie, the quick processing, the release.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
He can make almost every throw. Not a huge arm,
but all of a sudden you're like, oh, Wow, that
guy can kind of do everything. Is there any parallel
to football when it comes to poker.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Actually, that's a super great analogy and kind of the
arc type of a lot of poker players. A lot
of times they'll come in they'll be extremely raw and
they're just kind of out there flinging at Brett Favres style,
and they're out there flinging it and they have some
great results, and they didn't really know why.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
They were doing some of the things they were doing,
but they were just being.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Really aggressive at certain times and everything just kind of
fell into place and they won, and then maybe they
didn't have then they kind of fell off the expectations,
kind of got the best stuff on the poker world,
kind of like, oh, he's the next big thing, and
then they started doing things and people start figuring out
a little bit about their game plan, and then they
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start losing, and then they go back and they adapt
and they learn, and some fall off and they never
make it because they just get lazy and they think,
like the way that I've done it's always the way,
and some get better and then they have a resurgence
and they have their time back in poker. I don't
feel like I ever completely fell off, but I did
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do that. I came in and I had really good
results early, and then like I just kind of plateaued
a little bit, and then I said, you know what,
if I'm going to keep up with these guys, I'm
going to have to get a little I'm gonna have
to get better.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
And I went back into you know spaces where I
wanted to try to.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Learn through friends and through talking and through a little
bit of studying and practicing and just everything, and then
you know, kind of tailored my game.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And the game is always evolving.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
It's it's like, you know, once you're able to be
ahead of the ball game, just like in football, it's it's,
you know, the wishbone came into and then people figured
out how to beat the wishbone and then it was
passing attack and it's like last year we kind of
saw the resurgence of the running back because it was
a pass first league, and then people defenses were like, well,
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we're not going to allow you to pass.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
We're going to keep.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Everything in front of you, and we're going to put
more We're going to put more small defensive backs on
the field to stop you from passing it. So then
they started running it and we saw the resurgence of
the running teams. We saw Derrick Henry and and Saequon
Barkley and and Bucky Irving.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And I mean I don't know, I forgot about him already.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah yah, yeah, But basically, you know, the teams turned
to like more running backs and now we're going to see,
you know, how do teams how do defenses respond to that?
And it's just a constant thing of offense defense adjusting
and putting new game plans. And that's kind of how
the Poke landscape is.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, So did you play chess growing up?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Dates I didn't.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
No, I didn't, but I think chess is so, I mean,
chess is people. Some people say that poker solved and
like in a chess realm, but chess doesn't ever.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I think chess has a lot more like straightforward, like learning, memorizing, memorizing. Yeah, poker,
you can memorize some things, but when it gets down
to it, you're still you're not.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I don't know, I I guess I can't say. I
don't really want to say what chess says. It isn't
because I have not in the realm. But I feel
like chess is a more studied game, whereas poker, with
the range of players we play, you're playing people who
are not studied. So let's let's say, for instance, in chess,
if you have a good player versus versus a bad player,
the good player.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Is just gonna win every time. And in poker and poker,
the good player is not going to beat.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
The bad player right because the bad player has like
there is an element of luck. Still in poker, you
can get your money in good and you and like
the best you're ever really getting your money in a
lot of times is eighty twenty or seventy thirty or
sixty forty percentage base wise, So a lot of times
there's cards to come, so amateurs can suck out and
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win all the time, and they do. And that's the
great thing about our game is in the long run,
the pros and the skilled players will end up with
the money and will end up with the titles and
the glory, but amateurs win all the time.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Kind of like I'm golf. In golf.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You saw Chris Godder up last week in the Scottish Open.
He beat Rory McElroy. You know, is he gonna beat him?
He might beat him one out of ten times, you know,
or maybe even less. That's kind of how our game is.
Like as much skill as there is that you know,
big pros are always around the top of the leaderboard,
but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're not going to
have some amateurs mixed in and that some weeks the
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amateurs aren't going to end up on top. If you
have a chess tournament, you're never going to really have
an amateur is never going to win that usually.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I asked, because my son got into chess.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I got him into it, and you know, instantly he joins,
you know, tournaments and starts crushing people and rising rapidly
like oh my gosh, maybe this guy's a prodigy. But
then he hits like a Plateau struggles, we get him
a coach, and now he's making a second surge almost
kind of like a lot of these quarterbacks are the
analogy we talked about. So it is interesting watching people improve,
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and it sounds like, man, with poker, you're crushing.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I do want to ask. Obviously, fifty days of poker
is a lot. You probably are not up to speed
on NFL. Have you started your prep work for the
twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
It's crazy. I want to be like super into, so
you know, on my way.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
To and from I'll alter date between poker podcasts and
football ones. So I've to some and I know some,
and my Twitter feed is obviously full of football stuff,
so I'm kind of up a little.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
But I've sent down multiple texts.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
When they were like great summer, great summer, and I'll
be like, yep, football season. So yeah, I'm ready for
football season. I'm not fully abreast of my opinions and stuff.
I've made one wager. That's the only thing I've done
all year.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Let's hear that. Let's hear it.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
The day DeVante Adams signed with the Rams, I bet
the Rams to win the NFC at fourteen to one
at CIRCA and currently it's eight to one, so I
got a really good number there. I figured the Rams
are kind of team that.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
When they go all in, I feel like they go
all in, and you don't sign Davante Adams if you're not.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Going to go all in.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
So I figured like that was a signal of I'm
willing to I'm willing to trade draft picks.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
We're going to go for it. If we're going to
bring back Stafford and we're going to bring in Devonte Adams,
we're going to go for it.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I like the obviously they have one of the best coaches.
They have a good nucleus of young players, the defense
has some good young people. I love Puca, Stafford, Davante.
I mean that's to me that that's a team that
can get it done. Stafford, I know you love Stafford
so super winning quarterback. So yeah, that's my only wager
(29:24):
right now. I'll definitely have some Broncos stuff. Everybody knows
I'm a big bow Knicks fan, so I still think
they're undervalued in the market. But as far as other
things like that, my early leans are I kind of
feel like it's Baltimore's year. But I don't really like
the price that much. But that's my early thoughts. But yeah,
I'm ready to go for football season. I'll be loaded
(29:47):
up for all the circle contests, the survivors, the pick contests,
and I'm going to be doing I don't know if
you've talked about on your show, but I'm going to
be doing the one hundred thousand dollars a Grand Decimo
Survivor contest.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Have you heard about that?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
No, one hundred thousand dollars buy in or payout.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Buy in.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Hundred thousand?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, I know?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So are you doing online?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
There is? So you know about the survivor count, the
Circus Survivor count. I mean, I know the Circus Survivor Yeah, okay,
So the Circus Survivor contest.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
For those that don't know, it's a one thousand dollars
survivor contest. Last year, the winner got fourteen and a
half million. It's a winner take all unless you get
to the end with multiple people and then it's chopped
amongst people.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That get there. This year, they're anticipating it's a fifteen
million dollar guarantee.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I've had some people say that they think it'll get
twenty million. My estimation is probably closer to seventeen million.
In the one thousand dollars one. Well, they introduced a
high roller this year called the Grand Decimo, and it's
one hundred thousand dollars survivor contest that Circus.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Sports is running. And I think I'm going to have
two entries.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I'm going to have one for sure at a hundred thousand,
and then there's I might do a second one, but
I'm not that big of a baller.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I will not have all of it. I'm going to
be selling shares.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Uh wait, hold, let me pause, hold on one. One
hundred thousand dollars contests? Are you you're going to have one?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Just yourself?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
What do youself?
Speaker 5 (31:27):
It's going to be my entry, but I'm not I'm
going to be the one making the picks. Me and
my partner Mark, who are we do all the contest
stuff together. We're going to be making the picks. We're
going to have sole discretion on the picks. But I
am going to sell.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Shares of pieces of Okay, the entry.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
What's the estimated pot or do they not have one yet?
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Well, so they're guaranteeing one and a half million, which
is fifteen entries, but I would I would take over fifty.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think they'll have over fifty entries. It'll be over
five million dollar pot.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Wait, hold on, hold on, let me do the math here.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
One hundred thousand dollars buy in for a five million
dollar pot versus one thousand dollars buy in for a
fifteen million dollar pot.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Although one will have fifty people, the other will have fifteen.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Hundred fifteen thousand people. Oh, fifteen thousand, yeah, fifteen thousand
times a thousand is yes.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I was not ready for math here.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, I mean beating fifteen thousand verse beating fifty. It's
it's different, but it's just kind of like one. Yeah,
it's one of those things where.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
You know, the fifteen million and the beating fifteen thousand people,
Like that's a dream and and it's fun and it's
amazing and like we all do it. But you have
to get through twenty weeks of picking people, eighteen weeks to.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
The NFL season.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Plus they also have you have to pick an entry
on both Thanksgiving and Christmas. I hate, but that's the
that's their way of littling it down for the Grand
Decimo to win.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Like you, it might be over week eight or week
ten depending on upsets, so you don't have to go
quite as far. So what have you have you placed
shares yet?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
For the one hundred k? I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Maybe that's a better investment than me doing the one
thousand dollars Survivor I don't think I would do that anyway.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
So I'm not going to charge any juice or anything
with a percentage that you want to pay in, You'll
get if you want to pay See, I'm just basically
I'm taking a waiting list now, an interest list, So if.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You would like to have a piece, or is there
a minimum?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Uh, you know, probably probably a thousand would be probably
a thousand thousand or two thousand if I do one
entry or two entries, just kind of depends on how
many people I get that have interests, because I would
like to get as many people involved as possible.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I'll be selling.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Shares both individually through you can reach me online on
my Twitter account or my dms are open, or you
can text me if you know me or whatever. But
also I'm going to probably be selling shares on site
that I work for Survivor Sweat, which we're also the
largest proxy service for the contests. So if you're doing
if you want to do the Circle Survivor contest, get
(34:14):
in touch with this At Survivor Sweat. You can use
code word ODB for a discounted rate on your proxies.
But we have a marketplace over there for and buying
and selling shares of Survivor entries, so I'll probably post
a little bit on there as well. So if you
don't want to go through me directly, you can go
through our site, Survivor Sweat, and I'll have the entry
on there.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
But basically I'm going to I'm one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Doing one entry for one hundred thousand. I already have
an interest list that has you know, some people. But
if I get too many people on the interest list
for the one hundred thousand, then I'll just do two
entries and I'll just divide up your shares based on that,
because I want as many people riding with me as possible.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
So if we get near the end and we have
a great sweat, everybody can come to Circa and you know,
I'll make a deal. You know, we'll put everybody up
in rooms or or get you know, get them to
give us a discounted rate, and we could sweat the
football games together and have ten, fifteen, twenty people they're
sweating for five, ten million, whatever it is. I think
it'd be a lot of fun, and I want to
do it.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
So had a great year and a lot of people
like to ride with me, and some of the gambling
endeavors I do, So this is kind of a way
to get some fans involved and stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So let me ask.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Okay, so since you're you're up on the math, I
don't have my calculator out. Let's just hypothetically fifty people
enter one hundred thousand dollars contest, so it pays out
five million. If somebody bought a two thousand dollars chunk
of yours, and you want what would that two thousand
turn into.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Well, let's just say I do one entry, just for
ease of math, that would be two percent, so you
would get two percent of let's say five million, so
U one percent is you'd get one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So you could turn two thousand into one hundred thousand, all.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Right, five and five million, five hundred thousand would be
ten per one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, that's that's not terrible.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
That.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, that's.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
If we do two entries. You know, we'll we'll figure
out if So.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That gets tricky though, I mean because like if you
do two entries and one cash is to the other
dozen't and you were like on the wrong entry.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
No, no, no, that's not that's not how I'll do it.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
If you could, if you say, if you if you
tell me, you know, David, I want to invest two
thousand in Uh. If I do one entry, you'll have
two percent. If I do two entries, you'll have one
percent of each.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Okay, So that makes sense. Listen, that might not be bad.
I'll have to run up by the wife. We'll see
what she says about tailing you in that. Obviously I'll
be in the contest.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
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Speaker 2 (36:59):
Real quick, we can wrap up with so you know
Adam Churnoff, he was on here and I don't know
if a year ago if you remember, but he said
he liked an Eagles chief Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
So before the season, I bet Eagles to beat the Chiefs.
In the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I forget if it was like twenty eight to one,
whatever the odds were. I had the ticket, you know,
under lock and key, and it hit.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Eagles beat the Chiefs. So it was an awesome So.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's going to pay for all my contests that I'll
be entering here next month. Do you have an early
It sounds like you like Rams Ravens. Huh.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
If I had to say anything right now, I would
go I would take Rams over Ravens. But you know,
that's just taking the odds out of it.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I would like to.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I mean, everything has a percentage chance of happening, so
I just really need to go in and figure out
is are the percent or is there a better value
you bet on the board than that? But just my gut,
my football instinct taking odds out of it, I like
the Ravens to beat the Rams in the Super Bowl.
(38:05):
That's my July seventeenth or sixteenth prediction. I don't know
exactly what that would be. I'm saying the Rams are
eight to one to win the NFC and the Ravens
are probably three to one to win the AFC, So
parlay those together and then take the Ravens would probably be,
you know, a small favorite in the Super Bowl. So
(38:26):
whatever that comes out to be, I don't know, probably
in the thirties to one range, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Not sure if it's if that's what it is. But
we had a who are your early leans?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Well, we had Aaron.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Shots on yesterday and he said the Bills over the
last five years are the best team according to their
numbers to not make the Super Bowl, and the second
best is the Ravens. So basically, those two teams are
knocking at the door and one of them is going
to de throw on the Chiefs. I lean Bills, but
(38:58):
it's probably recency bio.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Remember that if Mark Andrews catches that, you know, it
doesn't drop that two pointer.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
I don't mean yeah, I mean I really feel like
that game ran out as horribly as possible for the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah. But well, here here's the Bowl case for the Bills.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
They play in an extremely weak division, which means their
record is probably going to be better than the Ravens,
which means they're probably going to get the buy, which
means they're probably going to have home field advantage plus
a week off.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
That's that's if I was making a bow case for
the Bills. That's what I would say if I'm making
a bowcase for the Ravens. I just think they're better
across the board. I just think they're better coached. I think,
I mean, I think.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Lamar and Josh are are fairly similar in UH skills
and ability. I just I feel like the offensive weapons
on the Bills are much worse than the Ravens. I
really like, I really like just the skill position players
across board. I like the defense on the Bills better,
I mean on the Ravens better. I feel like the
(40:05):
Ravens have more money, draft capital, things available, and willing
to go out and make those big splashes during the
year if they need to. I just feel like the
Ravens have a little bit more than the Bills. But
you know, the Bills kind of being a favorite for
home field advantage is kind of a big deal. So
(40:26):
obviously we can't discount you know, teams like Kansas City
and the Bengals and a couple of teams like that.
But you know, if you've listened to anything that I've
done over the last years, you know I'm not a
huge Kansas City Pat Mahomes gys so I'll be fading
the Chiefs this year, and they finally actually have a
(40:46):
division with good opponents. So I think the Chiefs have
been bullied by an extremely weak division over the last decade,
kind of like the Patriots were. I mean, I'm a
huge Cobra, I'm a huge Tom Brady fan, and I'm
a huge I was a huge Patriots fan, so they
were bullied by that as well. But the Chiefs kind
(41:07):
of been bullied by that.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I mean the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
When was the last time the Raiders were good? The
Broncos have been terrible for multiple years now. The Chargers,
you know, they can't get out of their own way.
Their coaching staff was horrific with Brandon Staley and and
so yeah, I think at the end of it, the
Chiefs just had a layup division.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
And this year, look, this Broncos team is for real.
The Chargers team is really good, and this Ravens team
is going to be improved too.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
And so they don't have the layups. They don't have
the layups. They don't have the layups that the Bills have.
And even for that matter of the Ravens, I mean,
the Ravens have two gimmes. The versus the Browns and
the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean, whatever you.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
Think about I think the Steelers are average at best.
I'm not I'm not buying into Steelers.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
So I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
The Bills don't have to face any of the top quarterbacks.
I'm pretty sure the best quarterback they face is like
Matt Stafford. I don't think they have to face I'm
pretty sure Burrow a little.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
More, don't they don't they play Lamar week one?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Wait, they do face Lamar? Yeah that was wrong.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
I think they play week one?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, they open.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Against your right against Lamar. Oh, and they do play
Kansas City? Who am I getting that confused with? It
might be the Niners who have like the easiested That's
what it is.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
The Niners do have the easiest schedule.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
They don't face Lamar Mahomes. Who are the other two?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Would Burrow and Jackson? They don't face any of them?
And it's like, how is that even possible? So, I mean,
do you believe in the Niners are not?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Really? So that's that's an interesting question because like I
wanted to say no when I looked at everything, but
why Like why am I? Why am I so out.
Why would I be.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Out on the Niners like they have the bulk of
their team coming back. Trent Williams. I'm not sure how
healthy he is or what's his deal, but like if
he played, I think he's a big He's a big
folkrum is that the word?
Speaker 4 (43:02):
You know, He's a big.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
He's a big spot in the in the in the
economy of whether you think they're going to be good
or bad, as if he's healthy. I personally think Kyle
Shanahan's an excellent coach. Maybe he's not the best big
game coach, but just in general he's I like his schemes,
So yeah, they're good. The division is kind of mediocre.
That's kind of why I thought the Rams were good.
(43:26):
I mean, Seattle is going to be good and competent,
but they're not great. And Arizona's good and competent, not great.
Niners good great, good, but competent not great, and same kind.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Of with the Rams. So I can see a lot
of things happening in that division.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
All those teams are kind of seven ten to ten
and seven type teams, so we'll just have to see,
like when they play each other, how how they match up.
How they're how they are injury wise, because the matchups.
You know, when you have a division with this closely
aligned teams, it's kind of like when you face guys,
I mean, is Kyler banged up for the week that
he plays the Niners or is he not?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
You know, Uh, is Term Williams out that week? There's
gonna be a lot.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
Of variants and when teams play each other and you know,
maybe did they come off of a hard game the
week before type thing?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
So yeah, all right, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Obviously, we'll get you more on NFL in August for
predictions and so forth. But I like this, uh, buying
into a chunk of your survivor there.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
I think the audience should pay close attention to that
one because.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Obviously, and you're every week.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah all right, Dave Baker superstar when it comes to
poker and NFL gambling. We'll talk to you, so man.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah, one more thing before we get out there.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
I started a podcast no Way and a friend of mine.
It's called Gamble Up. We have two episodes out already
and I'm going to be taping a third one right
after we're done with this.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
It's called Gamble Up. You can catch it on all your.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Podcasters, Apple, U, Spotify, So I'd love that we're on YouTube,
you can subscribe. I'm gonna be you know, it's it's
gonna be poker centric when poker's around, but football time.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
It's going to be all football.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Probably do a weekly talking about like what I've done
in the contest, what my bets are, what lean's are,
just some fantasy stuff, just anything gambling. So it's called
gamble up. If you look, the icon's got two dogs
playing poker on it. Find it on Apple, find it
on Spotify, on YouTube, and give us a listen and subscribe,
(45:35):
and and yeah, having back on your show right for
football season, we'll we'll shoot it up nice.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Congrats on the pod obviously, Dave, all right, thanks again,
all right, thank you
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