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August 24, 2024 120 mins

In a new episode of The Bernie Fratto Show, Bernie begins the show talking about the return of college football as week 0 starts this week, Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa comments about his former coach Brian Flores, the pros & cons of the new college football format & the Deion Sanders CBS drama saga continues. Detroit Journalist Dan Leach joins the show to talk some college and professional predictions including Lions, Wolverines, & a new edition of Brie’s Three + Plus YOUR thoughts during the Midnight Hour! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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com the way tied buying should be. We are ten
hours away from college football Week zero, and I hope
you've done your homework. Don't be like legendary boxer Rocky
Graziano who once said I had to quit high school

(00:45):
because of pneumonia, not because I had it, but because
I couldn't spell it. It's gonna be a little weird
at first. You gotta get used to it. We got
to do playoff, right, and it's about time. The old
ap UPI voting to determine a national champion.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
That was a fagazy. Then we tried the BCS.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Meh, how about the four team Made for TV Invitational? Yeah,
I don't really think I ever completely like that.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Paging Florida State.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You get the drift, It's going to be a lot
different this year, and we're here for it. Trust me,
you're going to be too. Will take you all the
way to the Riode, all the way through the National
Championship game on January twentieth. It feels like a long
way away, and as usual, we'll do future will have
a way of arriving ahead of schedule. Let's not forget.
It's been a busy season of realignment. Fifteen schools are

(01:46):
on the move. They're in new conferences. Oklahoma they're now
in the SEC, and so is Texas. They still call
it the Big Keen even though there's about forty two teams.
Oregon joins UCLA, USC and the Washington Huskies. How about
the Big Twelve Arnie Spaniards, Arizona Wildcats and of course
Arizona State, Dion Sanders, the Irrepressible Dion Sanders, and the

(02:11):
Colorado Buffs, and of course Utah they're all in the
Big Twelve. Meanwhile, this one I haven't got my mind
around yet. Cal and Stanford go to the ACC, so
it'll be by the Pacific Ocean and they play in
the Atlantic Ocean Conference. Okay, Siatto my geography and then SMU,
the SMU Mustangs, the pony Express, they join the ACC.

(02:34):
Not just then, by the way, Army, they go to
the American Athletic Conference and in conference USA welcomes in
Kennesaw State. And if you followed all that, you're better
man than me. Two of the biggest remaining pieces for
future realignment also center around Florida State.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Remember it's been under the radar, but Florida State is
leading a lawsuit against the ACC so they can leave
that conference before twenty thirty six without having to pay
you know, more than five hundred million in X and fees.
What's five hundred million among friends?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Clemson is also challenging the ACC in court, and just
for fun, of course, the conferences counter sued both schools. Yeah,
paging Judge Judy. If FSU and Clemson ended up being
successful in departing, that could actually set up a battle
between the Big ten and the SEC for two more

(03:30):
profile members. Meanwhile, and I'm not buying this. Notre Dame
and they remain the most lucrative potential catching them all
so long as they continue to stay independent. But they
recently extended their media rights deal with NBC Sports and
they hired the network chairman as their new athletic director,
and that deal runs through twenty twenty nine. That lines

(03:50):
up with the Big Tens broadcast deals that expired the
same season. Look, people who don't know what they're talking
about have long said that the Big Ten conference is
been seen as a logical landing spot for Notre Dame
if they'd decide to join one. I don't think it's
gonna happen. Halfields of McCoy's Big Ten quarted Notre Dame
back when Eisenhower as president, Notre Dame gave him the

(04:11):
middle finger. Then they did it again in ninety three
to ninety four, and Notre Dame gave him the middle
finger again. Now the Big ten's pissed, the Big forty two,
whatever you want to call it. I think it's going
to happen. That's six years down the road. Let's not
worry about it. But you've got realignment issues, and then
you've got the twelve team playoff, which I think is
going to be a banger.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I don't care what anybody says. Now.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Of course, a lot of folks are asking the proverbial question,
will this shift the tenor or the regular season? All
of a sudden you have one or two losses, you're
a national power. Might not mean that.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Much, right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Some people think or say that the regular season will
lose their intensity due to the expanded playoff. Remember at
one point one law to just destroy your season. But
I want to see how this plays out, all right.
I think most people are fairly excited, have an open
mind to see how the expanded playoff will keep more

(05:12):
teams in the postseason conversation. As you get later into
the season, there's so much more to play for than
just to bid. You're gonna have a chance to host
a first round game onto your own campus. If you
finish in the top four, you could even get a
first round by Those are both at stake. Those are
things to play for. Plus, the group of five conference

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should be more competitive, should be more dramatic than ever
because the highest ranked conference champion in the Group of
five will get a guaranteed bid. That'll be a moving
bar and a constant conversation all season long. So there's
a lot to unpack here, There's a lot to watch,
and I think it's going to keep you engaged. And
that number five playoff spot is going to actually be

(05:55):
very coveted. Probably gonna end up with Notre Dame. They
don't have to they don't have to ruin a conference
championship game to advance, and they got a couple of
speed bumps on their schedule, but most people feel they're
a top ten team. We'll see if Riley Leonard comes
back from his injury. The transfer quarterback from Duke so
he added all up, put it into a blender, and
it's going to be fun.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It also is going to be fun watching.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
The follow up to Michigan and the Michigan football program.
They all remember the defending national champions They made people
like Connor Stallions a household name and showing Moore a
household name. Jim Harball, he's gone.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
He gone.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
You knew it was inevitable at some point. Never got
over losing the Super Bowl to his brother.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
He wants to win one.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
He's in Los Angeles now. But the bottom line is this,
Michigan football goes on. They got Texas Week two and
they get to play USC and of course Ohio State
is looking for revenge and they lost a lot, but
they bring a lot back as well. They don't have
the same depth they had, they don't have the quarterback.
They had pretty good defensive line. But what's life like

(07:04):
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Speaker 2 (08:49):
All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.
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Just getting started. Just walk him in a good buddy
of mine, who was a fixed year during my show
last year, correctly predicted, never waivered that Michigan would win

(09:09):
the national title. And we're back at it this year,
and we'll have them on throughout the year, covering lines
as well. My good former Compadrea from ninety seven one
in Detroit. Say hello to Dan Leach. Dan, how you doing,
buddy the b man?

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Do it great? I was told that because of some
of my appearances, you won multiple awards. I mean you
went him on your own, but I guess I helped.
I's great to be here, Ah, you.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Very much helped.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
When you come out, I'll take it to Jack in
the Box and we'll get some tacos and curly fries.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
How's that so good? I thought we were doing sushi
next time too.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I don't like sushi, you only when it's cooked. But
maybe that's your second dinner. All right, Dan, let's dive
right into it. Yes, sir, uh. Look, big year in
Michigan football last year. Now you've got the proverbial hangover,
if there's such a thing. Obviously Michigan lost a lot,
but you bring back some studs, Will Johnson, Colston Lovelin,

(10:00):
good defensive line, don't have the death brand new defensive coordinator.
Start wherever you want to start trying to get it anyway.
Start wherever you want to start, Dan, and take us
what it looks like the inside of the Avery Tower
at Michigan Football right now.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, listen, this is this is the bad news. The
bad news is is that it's you know, very tough
to not just repeat in college football. But you know
there's a lot of talent, a lot of parody. The
Big ten is now to pack ten Big ten. I mean,
it's just crazy. The good news is that Michigan won
the national title. So it's not I mean, obviously there's
always gonna be fresh to win, but there's also a

(10:35):
twelve team playoff. Bernie is obviously everyone listening and you
well know, so it's not like you have to go
right back and you know, beat Ohio State no matter what,
or you've got to go, you know, go eleven to
zero to start in the season. It's about building to
a crescendo as opposed to last year. Where as I
was on your show, as you mentioned many times, at
all the Michigan games, at a lot of the road

(10:56):
games around that program and you could just see what
JJ McCarthy brought, obviously, what Blake korm was, all the
different players on both sides of the ball, you know,
doing everything for the leader Jim Harbaugh, who, of course,
you know, obviously took off to go to the Chargers.
But you know, this was a guy that I called for.
It's had a couple few years ago because nothing was happening.
He weren't being a good team. And I'm so glad

(11:18):
that didn't that I was wrong because when I was
in that stadium in Houston with my shirt off, face
painted and you know, screaming in the air at ecstasy
for Michigan's first national title since I was in college,
it's all by him. Now, That's what it's all about.
But the thing is that I think that a lot
of different programs and fans of those programs can be
truly excited about, especially in Michigan, is that it's a

(11:39):
twelve team playoff. You can have some stumbles if you're
a team that's kind of rebuilding on the fly, which
they are with you know, hopefully a quarterback in alex Orangy.
I know, you know, Jack Tunnell has been talked about
his baby the guy that he has had a little
more experience to find. But Alex Oregon is going to
be the guy that looks like to start against Presdo State.
And you know you mentioned obviously there's been some losses,
but listen, Donovan Edwards is a heismang antenor he's back.

(12:03):
The old line's still gonna be solid. You mentioned my
man Colton Low and I talked about him many times
on your show. You'd have to do about a difference maker,
and he was the guy that came through over and
over again. They've got what I will say, though, Ernie,
in my entire life of forty seven years on this earth,
I think the toughest schedule they've ever had. Now most
of the tough games are at home. But that being said,
this is a team that's still got a ridiculous amount

(12:25):
of talent, continues to get four and five stars even
with Hardball leaving. It's gonna be a lot of fun,
but it's gonna be tough to get back to the mountaintop. Well,
they have a chance, sure, but they got to start
off with that win over Texas And I'm not forgetting
about Fresdo State. And let's be honest, they'll beat Frensdo
State in the big House. I'll be there next Saturday night.
But Texas early in the year. USC, early in the year,
you got to get off to a good start with

(12:46):
these new teams coming in from the Pac twelve. And
I was in Texas being a great non conference game.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So Michigan has the luxury all playing their first five
games at home. But in those first five you do
have a Texas and you do have a USC before
your first conference game against Minnesota. Michigan will be good,
but you gotta be honest. They don't have the depth
they had last year. But you do have guys like

(13:12):
Will Johnson or a first round draft choice who were
is you most Before you get into the meet of
the schedule of those first five games.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, you make a great point by the way
they do not they're not as loaded. I mean, listen,
I mentioned they've got a lot of depth because they're
one of the best teams in the country. They're always
going to be a top five ten recruiting class as
long as they stay up there. But they don't have
the same depth. So that is a concern, and that's
my whole point about there being a twelfth playoff billions
are virescendo, which is what you know, teams have not
been able to do it till now. That be said,
when you look at that schedule, obviously the game of

(13:41):
the works the most, and I'm excited to be there
for that nude startup Fox a couple of weeks, I
get Texas tickets are going to like eight hundred dollars
is nuts. But I'll tell you that that kid yours, obviously,
you know, is the Heisman attender. That is a really
well coached team they've got. They are stacked on both
sides of the ball. They deserve that. I know, preseason
the rankings is gonna be a tons of Dames Vernie,
but they deserve that preseason top five ranging. That of course,

(14:03):
is the game that get Church the most. But listen,
I don't think USC is even in the same sentence
as a Texas. But that's gonna be a tough game
too because USC has athletes. I know, they don't have
Caleb Williams, but they've got athletes. They're gonna be coming
in trying to win their first game at Michigan Stadium,
you know, forever. And so those are the two games
of course you got to look at But to me,
if Michigan, you know, kind of builds into it and

(14:24):
then plays a nice game against Freszo, they're twenty one
and a half points favorites, I think they're gonna win
by more than that. They got Texas the following week.
If they can be in that game till the end,
I mean, they can still lose that game and still
be a team that does of this year. But they've
got to come out against a very good Texas team
and look like they're good enough to be a playoff team.
As this you know, season's gonna start obviously early and

(14:45):
build to what it needs to later on. That's the
game that you really got to look at it for
the Wolverines and kind of text yourself, no Jim Harbaugh,
no JJ McCarthy, no Blake Corbin, so many others. You've
got to come out and be in that game the
whole way. If you don't win it.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Talk with Dan Leach Michigan Campadre. We go back a
long ways. Dan, we haven't even talked about Oregon.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
They visited the Big House, and I'm going to break
up the party. I'm actually picking Oregon to win. To
Big ten this year.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
But give me your Oregon daunt.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, they are awesome and they're gonna bring an offense.
It's gonna rec havoc and they have. They're far better
in the interior lines than people realize. So you got
Texas at home, USC at home, Oregon at home when
I haven't gotten to the school down south yet. That
you're you're pretty good at this, Dan. Let's fast forward
to Thanksgiving. What are the Wolverines record after eleven games?

(15:34):
Best case scenario and realistically, well, yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Listen, you don't be out all they shoot to see.
It's raight. Last year was literally I mean, for the
people that haven't heard before, I've covered Michigan in better
fans since I was a kid. I've never picked Michigan
to go on to feed it ever, and obviously last year,
you know at the twelve gieth schedule, that's the first
time I've ever done it. I'mout picking to go on
defeated this year, I think the best case scenario for
the Wolverine this season with all the crazy Pac twelve

(15:59):
teams and as I mentioned, most of those games obviously
at home Oregon, which we'll get to the minute of Texas,
those tough games usc All had in the big outs,
and you mentioned they opened with their first five games
at home. But you know, the Oregon until Gabriel probably
the best quarterback in the country. I mean, he's They
are ridiculous. They are well coached. They're gonna be unafraid
to go into Michigan statey as. You remember, they just

(16:19):
destroyed the Wolverine The last time they were there was
a forty nine to.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Seven Dan That was the week after they lost.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
To a state that was that was Denas Stixon before
Dennis Dixon. I don't know you remember, yes, yeah, I
had to watch that game from a bar in Atlanta
because I was in Atlanta going to see Dave Matthews
man at Piedmont Park with the Alder Brothers opening for
a forty thousand pieces of a charity show. I was
at a bar throwing up and I didn't even drink
back then. But you know, you look at what's the

(16:48):
best case scenario is to be tended to. I think
the Wolverines that's their best case scenario. Listen until I
stinking beat him. I'm not taking Michigan to lose our states.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Get us jump to that game. Let's jump to that
game because long before Ohio State. I know you don't
cover Ohio State, but you've got your finger on the
Pulse and Big Ten as well as anybody. So the
bottom line is this, Ohio State's got to visit Oregon
and what I mean Ryan Days like fifty eight and six,
I guess everybody else not named Michigan or Georgia, right,

(17:18):
I mean, so the bottom line is I hear they're
really itchy there, and you got Chip Kelly on staff,
which is ominous to me. If Ohio State were to
lose to Oregon and lose to Michigan, what do you
think happens to Ryan Day?

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Well, listen, you've first thought you look at you they've
had such great teams and teams that maybe and in
some ways had more talent overall than Michigan. They still
beat them, as will Howard vetteran tzst round. I don't
think so, but you look at what they've been able
to not do. You mentioned all the great wins against
teams not named Michigan. And if I'll tell you if
they if they lose, bottom line, berdie. If they lose

(17:54):
to Michigan, Rye Day is.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Out you know, really, you think that's a fad.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
One hundred percent if they lose. Listen, if they lose
to Michigan, it still go to the playoff and you know,
go to the semi final, to the final maybe. But
if they lose to Michigan, they're probably not going to
the Big Ten title game and they're probably not going
to well I guess, I guess they get some good
to the playoffs. But to me, if you lose to
Michigan for the fourth year in a row, after dominating
them under Urban Maher and others, and it was an afterthought,

(18:22):
where like I would always say, if I was an
Iowa State fan and until Michigan beats them, why would
you pick against them. I'm saying the same thing about
the Buck guys right now, until they proved they can
beat the Wolverines. And of course they got that game
in CLUBUS. But I was there a couple of years
ago with my shirt off, by the way, and about
twenty thousand the Michigan fans laughing at the Buck guy
fans who can say nothing because we told them. But

(18:43):
I'll just say, you look at what this Ohio State
team has not been able to do in a Ryan Day.
It's win in the biggest moments. The National semi final,
they probably should have won that game. The games they
get to the Wolverines and they were in and a
couple probably should have won. We're had a great chance
of winning. If they lose to Michigan and go four
to row in the lost column after obviously what all

(19:03):
the other coaches have done, I think he is out
and less, like I said, for something.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
If they lose.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
To Michigan, but but go to the playoff and get
to the final, get to the championship game and lose it.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If they if they lose
to Michigan and some I'll get to the at the
worst semi final or the national title game and lose,
maybe they give him a little love.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
But if they don't, if they lose to Michigan and
it cost them like.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
A first round loss in the playoff, but they missed
the playoff entirely, he is out. And I'm hearing that
from not just Michigan and Ohio State sources, but people
I really trust around the Buck Eye program.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I don't think urban Meyer will ever coach again.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
To you, I do not I do not, and if
he does, I just I would be stunned if he
coaches again.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, I agree. Wrap it up with Dan Leech, our
guy from Detroit. You'll hear him throughout the football season
on my show U And of course we'll talk about
the lines in a few weeks here Dan, But I
want to stay in Michigan and college football.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Uh Burnie really quick though, go to cover at Sports Illustrated.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Let me let me let me tell you something I had.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I had lunch say for some very sharp guys here
in Las Vegas, Genphius, Bill Krackman, Matt Ewans Vsen.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Everybody thinks the lines uh.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Are gonna be right there, and I think they'll be
in the Super Bowl, unless they have to go on
the road to play in the NFC Championship game. Then
I'll bets are off because hothouse teams Dan just don't
win on the damn road in.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
January, and so I think it could be if that
game the fort Field, they're the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
If that game is at Forts and they had them
down by seventeen, So if they have to go to Philadelphia,
even if they have to go to Green Bay, if
they have to go to whatever, pick your poison. I'm worried.
But if they're at home, so we're a long way
between now and then give me your championship game in
college football? Who your national championship is? If you had
a gun to your head right now?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Oh and obviously, like I'm so excited that we finally
have the twelve team playoff and we probably should have
had a long time ago. But to me, I will
say this, it's not gonna be Michigan. But how can
you go against Georgia? And I'm one hundred percent with
you on the Oregon Ducks. I think Georgia and Oregon playing.
I mean, Texas will be around, they'll have a chance.
But right now, but you know, nurf gun into my head.
Georgia and Oregon buck eye fail again, will breathe the playoffs.

(21:14):
But I think that the Oregon Ducks are going to
be your national champion. And it looks like it sounds
like you feel the same way.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, I think there can be. I think they're very
much on the short list, and I do think they're
gonna win the Big ten. Dan, great stuff, as always, man,
appreciate it. We'll get you on again soon. You got
a finger on the pulse allions and we'll this is
going to be a fun season.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Appreciate you, Bud Berdie.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
The pleasure and honor is always mine.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Thanks so much, pulled it down there in the Mitten State,
my man.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
All right, and the d had is Dan Leech spent
a lot of years at ninety seven to one of
Detroit covering it all. And as you can see, you
know he might have an energy drink or two or
maybe not even need one coming up. You know who
had a burst of energy this last week was Tua
No no, not hawk Tua to a tag of aaloa.
He actually had some joyce worths about his former boss.

(22:02):
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Speaker 10 (22:07):
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Speaker 10 (22:36):
That was Steven Nelson on FSR affiliate Kyle seeing the
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(22:57):
first Dodger in team history to also a poplish that
feet Elsewhere in Major League Baseball, Padres keep pace in
the NL West, shutting out the Mets seven nothing. Same
for Arizona. The Snake's blown out the Red Slax twelve
to two, so LA's lead in the division sits at
four games against the Diamondbacks four and a half on
San Diego.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
In that chaotic Al.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
East, the Orioles and Yankees both win Baltimore's seven and
five victory against the Astros, while New York shuts out
the Rockies three nothing, so New York still leads Baltimore.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
By a game and a half. The AL Central really
tightening up.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
The Guardians follow the Rangers five to three, twins, unable
to take advantage losing to the Cardinals six to one,
but the Royals do beat the Phillies seven to four,
so Cleveland holds a one game lead on Kansas City
two on Minnesota Mariners get back into the wind call
and they get an extra inning six to five victory
against the Giants. First game has since firing Scott Service

(23:53):
and a major development in college athletics. ESPN and The
Athletic reporting earlier today that the Big Twelve is in
talk with Yukon about joining the league in all sports.
No vote has occurred yet for potential Huskies membership, nor
is one close to happening. The reports do say, however,
there has been pushback among several members in the Big

(24:13):
Twelve that would need to be overcome, primarily Yukon's investment
into football and their competitive competitiveness in it as well.
That's why the potential start day for Yukon in the
Big Twelve would be the twenty thirty one season.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
Thank you, Bernie, all right.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Jef, nicely done. You here till two am with us?
Beautiful all right. Tua has played for two different coaches
during his four year career. He had some choice words
for his former boss earlier this week.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
I think you should hear this, brick. Let's hear this.

Speaker 12 (24:50):
If you woke up every morning and I told you
you suck at what you did, that you don't belong
doing what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that
this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right,
and you hear it more and more you start to
actually believe that.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
So very interesting responses that it elicited. If Tua were
to do this, why would he do it now? I
think it's simple, he got the bag, he likes his
new coach. And to be fair, I think it was
during an interview with Dan Levatard and Stu Gotts and
he was asked the question. So it wasn't like he
was running his mouth because I think not only is
not only as to a really solid citizen and an

(25:32):
exceptional human being. I mean played, He's played for tough
coaches before, so let's let's be clear about that. But
based on you know, to his answer, he responds better
to a positive coach. Right, Flores went the opposite route
to try to motivate his players. Look the great Billy Martin,
who managed the New York Yanke Institute World Series championships,

(25:55):
once said, there are twenty five players on a baseball roster,
ten who like it, ten who hate you, five who
can't make up their mind. Your job is to keep
the five who can't make up their mind away from
the ten.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Who hate you. That was his philosophy.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Because he's joking, Jimmy Johnson, we treat everybody the same
different You have to size up who you're dealing with
and understand what they respond to psychology. One on one,
positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement horse jumps over the rail. You
give an apple positive reinforcement horse missus the rail to
club them over the head. That's how some people respond.

(26:29):
Brian Flores, who's a great defensive coordinator, well he actually
had some players defend him. And this is really a
complex topic. I would just say this that clearly two
has performed better under his current coach, Mike mcdani who
was a real character. He can played football Yale, and

(26:54):
it's obvious he's happier and more content. And the Dolphins
scored more points than anybody last year, so they their
offense is real and I think people considered them to
be on the short list to advance to the AFC
as long as they don't have to go play in
some cold.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
City in January. But it sort of raises another question.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
As well, which we're going to have a little fun
with tonight in about twenty five minutes during the midnight hour,
you'll give us a call eight seven seven nine nine
six six three six nine eight seven seven nine to
nine on Fox. What was your What were your quick
thoughts about Tua? Are you empathetic meeting? Maybe you've had

(27:33):
an abusive boss, Maybe you've had a bad boss. Maybe
you've had somebody who didn't exactly speak the King's language
when it came time to dealing with you. I think
we've all had one of those. Maybe you got a
quick story for us. How did you handle it?

Speaker 3 (27:48):
What were your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
And when you handled it, however you handled it, how
did the boss who was the bad boss respond?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
And by the way, did you quit your job or
did you remain?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
But it became tenuous, So kind of a multifaceted midnight
hour this time, and the subject is simple, it's very
relatable if you observed how Tua described his situation with
his former boss, and clearly it had an effect on him.

(28:20):
If you listen to the tenor and the timber in
his voice when he's describing this, it's pretty obvious it
was a little on the painful side for him.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I think.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I mean, he's a world class athlete and he comes
from great stock and he won a national championship at Alabama.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
But he's human.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
He's human, and he may have a bit of a
sensitive side. On the other hand, there are people who
backed Brian Florence, saying to it, you know, he should
have been a little tougher, right, he should have he
should have not spoken, whatever the case may be. And
again it becomes a relatable dynamic to the folks listening
as well, because the bottom line is, maybe you've had

(28:58):
a bad boss. I'd like to hear the stories. You know,
we want to use the economy words, get to our point,
all that kind of stuff. But it makes for it
actually makes for good to radio. I did this and
did this in Detroit a long time ago with Rob Parker.
Some of the calls we got were amazing. People that
were on road trips and their boss called and chewed
them out, and they quit their job on the spot
and flew home.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
And you know, they might have had been married, kids
and a whole it didn't matter. They just they had it.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
They'd had enough and they couldn't take it anymore. And
in almost every case, the decision they made turned out
to be the right one and they went on with
their lines with all having to you know, have this
damocles hanging over their neck. So that'll be a topic one,
Tua Brian Flores. It's relatable. You know, how do you

(29:43):
think to would handle that? Maybe you don't like the
way to a handle that, And ever so quickly, have
you had a situation you'd like to share with us,
because we've all had that boss And you know what,
I've had bosses that talked tough but were very competent,
successful people and maybe they were making you back the
ones you don't like to talk to for the ones
that are incompetent, because if someone's incompetent and an idiot,

(30:06):
that's a bad parlay. And a lot of times people
rise to their Peter principle. They rise to the level
of you know, failure in life where they're they're you know,
they're eligible for promotion until they get to that plateau
to where they've reached their Peter principle. So you get
where we're going with that. Coming up, I want to
share with you what I think the second topic will be,

(30:26):
and I think it's appropriate, very simply because we've got
college football in nine and a half hours, and the
narrative this season will be far different as the season
plays out, and I think it'll be forefront in terms
of the update each week and who's where as we
head toward this month long playoff. I'll set that up here.

(30:46):
Coming up in just a minute, I Bernie Fraddle. We
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Speaker 5 (30:56):
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Speaker 2 (31:07):
All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.
We are coming to live from the tire Ac dot
Com studios here in Las Vegas. Coming up at about
fourteen minutes and twenty three seconds, The Midnight Hour will
take your calls eight seven, seven nine nine six six
three six y nine eight seven, seven, nine to nine
on Fox. The callers have been sensational since we began

(31:30):
doing this in the fall last year, and again it's
we called the Midnight Hour because for more, I sit
here in Las Vegas, it is twelve midnight, specifically literally
twelve minunut on the clock, and perhaps where you sit
it's also twelve midnight, But wherever you sit, it's twelve midnight. Figuredly,
the minute hour is the way of saying you got
the final word on some of these subjects tonight. The

(31:53):
first subject will beat Tua to a takolaloa and his
comments with respect to his former boss Brian Flores, with
a lot of character for him, and he was asked,
and he answered, and he was truthful. It elicited some
interesting reaction, including a reaction from Brian Florest.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Some people, well, you know, had Flores's back.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Others were you know that two was back, and some
people were maybe a little put off by the timing.
Why didn't you wait so long? Well, to me, that's
I know why. He's already got the back. Now he's
got two feet from me on the ground. He's got
a good relationship with Mike McDaniel's productions up and so,
and he was asked, okay, So it leads it begs
the question, how about you. Have you ever had a

(32:37):
verbally abusive boss? How did you handle it. I don't
know anybody who hasn't. Seriously, all right, let's get to
the second topic of the Midnight Hour, Because nine hours
and thirteen minutes you kick off in Dublin, not Dublin, Ohio,
from where Brady is from, Brady Quinn, Dublin, Ireland. Help
yourself do a pint. The twelve team College play Off

(33:00):
has been bandied about. There are most people I think
love it, some don't, some are in the middle. Most
haven't made up their mind yet. So what I thought
we would do before I throw it to the phones
is talk about what some of the general pros and
cons of the twelve team college football Playoff is this year,
because there are are pros and there are cons. First pro,

(33:23):
the obvious one. You get more teams involved. You heard
me say it earlier.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
All Right, the.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
APUPI voting thing was just a big fugazy the BCS
no No. And then you have the four team made
for TV Invitational tournament. Okay, we did it because we
had to. There was nothing better. If you're starving and
all you got in the fridge as the team is brito,
you're gonna eat it and you're probably gonna like it

(33:50):
because you're starving. Well, now we have twelve teams involved,
and the format calls for the sixth highest rank conference
champions has been included. So now the group of five
is guaranteed to be represented, all right. And beyond that,
you're gonna have viewers for some high quality matchups. You're

(34:10):
gonna have some matt large teams. There are more teams involved.
That's a big pro for me. Is there a con
sure people are always gonna complain? Look what happened last year?
The nation was divided on Florida State when the College
Football Playoff Committee left Florida State. Yes, they were undefeated,
they were ACC champions out of the playoffs. There's a

(34:31):
provision having to do with injuries, and they basically leaned
against their bylaws because it's made for TV invitational tournament.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
But that wouldn't happen if there's If this year's playoff
was last year, Florida State would have been in no
two ways about it. They would buy virtue of the
rules they'd have been in because they were ACC champions,
all right. Now the field's expanded to twelve teams, and
it would have got argued on the field The only
difference is that the number five seed now on the
current format has a much more convincing argument compared to

(35:03):
whoever was the first team out of the twelve team format.
Regardless guaranteed you wait, there'll be some complaints. But the
thirteenth if you think you're thirteenth, if you're not in
the top twelve with all you can do to get in,
your complaints are largely I think in the fall on
deaf ears.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
But there are going to be complaints.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
So the pro more teams, the con you watch, it's
not gonna be perfect, They're still gonna be complaints. The
next one, I think is a big pro, and that
is you have a longer path, a more difficult path.
You have to win more games, which I think leads
to a true champion. Tom Izzo loved the Dude Michigan State.

(35:45):
He always talked about surviving advance. You gotta win six
games in a row to win the NCAA Championship, all right.
One of the issues with only having four teams last
year is at the national champion only had to go
through two teams to win it all, and even then,
there are arguments that the four teams in the playoffs
might not have been the four best teams, whether the
four bests where they four deserving the four they get

(36:07):
you the best TV ratings, you get the drift one
of the new format. The national champion will have to
go through four teams or three if they earn the
first round by. But if you earn that first round by,
you have truly earned it. So now you've got a
longer path to the national championship. That's gonna, I believe,

(36:27):
when it's all said and done, most likely lead to
more people accepting the fact that a team that actually
won the national championship truly deserved to win it. But
here comes a con This is the first time they're
going to be buys the four highest ranked teams. They're

(36:48):
going to receive a buy in the first round because
they earned it, and they'll billy a home game on campus.
But again, you go back to the regular season. That
means making the top four still mean something. Now college
football fans love to argue this just adds another bar
topic to debate and argue over. It's inevitable someone's going

(37:10):
home pissed off bank it. So how big of an
advantage is to buy what we don't know yet that
you have to be determined.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I get it. You got one more a week to lick.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Your wounds, you get a game at home. You only
have to win three games instead of four. But that's
gonna be the by product of having a good regular season. However,
you can bet there's gonna be plenty of fans upset
over which teams are granted to buy and which ones
we're not.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
That's a con. Here's a pro. I think this is great.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
You're gonna see games actually played in the first round
on college campuses, not just neutral sites. And one of
this new format, college football playoff games are gonna be
played at two of the new year's six bowl games
on a rotating basis, So you're gonna have two teams
scoring off on the opposite end of the country. For example,
Alabama and Michigan they met in the Rose Bowl last year.

(38:03):
Neither school was remotely close to Alabama or Pasadena. That
hadn't been much of an issue in the past. And
the truth of the matter is, we don't know how
it's going to affect the playoff teams. Teams can win
on the road, teams can lose at home, but there'll
be a new layer of excitement in the college football
playoff because first rounds taking places on the campuses of
participating teams is only going to add to the accpement,

(38:26):
which leads to another big con You're gonna hear complaints.
Likely there'll be conferences that are favored. Can you spell SEC?
Can you be Big Ten? Somebody already called it the
SEC Big Ten Invitational. No one's ever going to silence
that it is not out of the realm of possibility
that as many as six of the twelve teams could

(38:46):
be from those two conferences. Not out of the realm
of possibility. But the key is you're going to have
more meaningful postseason games with epic matchups and the final
cont which I'm not buying. People think this is slightly
controversial because it means could mean a less meaningful regular season.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Not buying it.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think the regular season will still be very meaningful
with a twelve team format. It's almost to guarantee some
people are gonna say it's a less meaningful regular season
because maybe there'll be a three loss team that makes
it in there. However, when you get to that playoff,
which starts December twentieth, and goes for a full month.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
You're here for it. So those are our two topics tonight.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Tua his comments Brian Flores, who sighed, Yeah, have you
ever had a verbally abusive boss? Tell us about it?
How'd you handle it? How'd they handle it? In the
twelve team college Playoff? You heard me give the pros?
You heard me give the cons?

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Do you like it? Do you not like it? Are
you looking forward to it? Well? You watch it? You
know the drill?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Dial them up eight seven seven nine nine six six
three six nine. The Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.
It's the midnight hour.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
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Speaker 2 (40:00):
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(40:23):
be the midnight hours upon us. From where I sit,
it is midnight in Las Vegas. Literally likely from where
you sit it is midnight somewhere. You get the drill
callers have been great tonight? Do you like the playoff format?
That's the second topic. The first Tomac topic is to
his comments about his former boss. How do you feel

(40:44):
about those? And oh, by the way, have you got
an experience with a bad boss? Yep, it's time we
call it the midnight.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Hours right now?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
The midnight hour?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Well, nobody better to start off with as we go
back to the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Did Jim get us start at to night? Buddy? What
do you got for us?

Speaker 8 (41:09):
Well, Bernie, you know you can't. You just gotta let
go what Tuas says, because you know, when you speak
from the heart like that and usually doesn't speak much,
you know you got to take it for what it is. Now.
On the thing about the bad boss, Usually bad bosses
are unsure of themselves. It does or something that happened
before in their life, that little power goes crazy to

(41:31):
their head. I don't care what the end of what
the you know industry is or the sport is like.
In my case, being sixty seven years old, I've seen
it all and I come from the steel industry. Where
you know, there's a lot of tapel aids and computer
aids and grinders and everything. It takes four to eight
weeks to train people on those jobs. And you get

(41:53):
a crazy buss And I saw one, you know, owner
boss above blah boss say, hey, listen, you're gonna calm
down because you're a dime a dozen those people out there.
I can't replace them. I can replace you tomorrow, So
you know, you know what I mean. It's it's it's
it's things like that, and it's usually it's usually someone's

(42:15):
own ego or own you know, lack of self esteem.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
So you're you're not wrong, Jim, I'm a good insight.
But in your travels ever so quickly, have you ever
had a boss like that? How did you handle it?

Speaker 8 (42:29):
I've had coaches and bosses like that. You you know,
you get a little embarrassed, self embarrassed. But I grew
up in an era or playing sports and with bosses
and your own jobs. In life.

Speaker 13 (42:45):
The big thing was old school.

Speaker 8 (42:48):
You reward in private, you criticize in private, So you
criticize somebody in private, whether you know you're off to
the side, you're in an office and you take your medicine,
rightfully or wrongly, and you reward private because you don't
want the rest of the people out there to think,
you know, he's a teacher's pet or something like that.
But that's all gone now. That's why you've got problems

(43:09):
everywhere in all different you know, industry and all different
types of jobs. And you know where you're work in
an office where you got all the cubicles, there's just
so much. Oh, it's just a mess, you know what
I mean, It's just a mess. People can't relate to
people anymore.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Get you getting started again to night, Jim. Always appreciate
your calls and insights for me. And you know, I've
had coaches that were rough. Last week I had my
good buddy Doug Anderson, former high school football teammate.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Our coaches were rough, but we respected him.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
For me, it's when a boss is incompetent and verbally abusive,
that's a bad parlay.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
That's the hard one to put up with.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Back to the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Andrea Joints, it's
good evening, Andrea.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
How are you.

Speaker 14 (43:54):
How are you doing?

Speaker 9 (43:54):
Ernie?

Speaker 14 (43:55):
Thanks for taking the call. This situation with Tua him
being berated by.

Speaker 15 (43:59):
Brian and Floris.

Speaker 16 (44:00):
I got to say, looking.

Speaker 14 (44:02):
Back, I don't know if I had a situation whereas
you know, the boss was physically excuse me, verbally abusive
kind of yelling and screaming and so on and forth.
I work in education, and that thing that's kind of
that's kind of frowned upon. But I have had bosses
and supervisors, you know, I think that weren't necessarily kind

(44:22):
of in your corner so so to speak, you know,
and so quietly, you know, they were a little bit
more distant, you know. I think that's been my kind
of experience, you know, where you're trying to do all
the right things and you're not getting as much feedback
you're not getting you know, and then like at the
end of the day, you know you're not you.

Speaker 9 (44:38):
Know, supported by uh, by those you work with.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
That's kind of been my.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Uh personal and real quickly regarding to or were you
were you put off in any way by what he
said this week or was hey, let him let the
man speak his mind.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
He's been a pretty good soldier.

Speaker 14 (44:51):
My opinion was that his comments were towards the tail
end of the interview, and I thought the totality of
the interview was more about, you know, his story coming
from Hawaii, you know, to be the star in Alabama,
make it to the NFL, and then specifically the physical
challenges that he's had since he's being in the NFL,
most notably the concussions, and then how he's kind of

(45:12):
So that was the totality, and he mentioned that Brian
Flora is kind of towards the tail end. I didn't
think it was a hit piece, so to speak, you know,
but it didn't put floors in any sort of you know,
prominent light. And I liked how Brian Flora has kind
of side steps all of the drama and the tornado
and the noise, took the high road to kind of,
you know, move forward for Tua's sake. I think that

(45:35):
however he meant it, that's the real way that being perceived.
And so he does have additional pressure on himself in
a pivotal year for the for the Miami Dolphins, and
if they struggle, and that a FC East, which has
much improved in AfD overall, which is a just by
far the stronger conference, this is going to come back
to bite him in the behind so quickly.

Speaker 9 (45:55):
It's gonna, it's going to it's going to follow him.

Speaker 14 (45:58):
Now over to college football, Bernie, I'm excited about the
twelve teams.

Speaker 9 (46:02):
I like the fact you know that the wealth is
being spread.

Speaker 14 (46:06):
The most interesting narrative to me though, this fifth, sixth,
and seventeen that were right in the fringe and not
and didn't.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Get in, i e.

Speaker 14 (46:14):
The Florida States of the world, and furthermore, the tenth, eleven,
and twelve seeds. I really want to see if they
can hold their own against the big boys, against the Georgia's,
against Ohio State, the Oregons, and the Texas. The Texas says,
rather than go out there and get embarrassed because so
many years we've seen the SEC gets into the BCF
championship game and just molly walks whoever their opponent is

(46:34):
and it's not even competitive. And so that's where I
think that the real challenge is everybody's making money. It's
going to increase, you know, the revenue and the nil
so make your money, So that part is given. But
I do want to see if these teams can really
get in there and challenge and beat these you know,
the rulers, or if it's just going to be a
confirmation of what the current narrative, which is the SEC

(46:56):
and the best of the Big ten just absolutely dominate.
They's taking time, Bernie.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Thanks Andrew. I was appreciated, and the good news is
we're going to find out on the field. It's no
longer going to be theoretical. It's no longer going to
be a courtroom argument. It's going to be on the field.
And I do expect them to be upsets. There is
in March madness. We'll have to let it play out.
But on a one game affair, anything can happen. We've
seen some massive upsets in college football over the years.

(47:23):
Stephen in Kansas City joins us. Stephen, you've been a
staple in this segment, are you.

Speaker 9 (47:29):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (47:29):
Bernie? Congratulations we made it through another year. Round the
Sun cause the real football starts tomorrow. I really sincerely
enjoy the format this year. I think it's it's we're
gonna I would really like to see conference champions only
with those top four seeds unless there's a great group

(47:51):
of five team. I think that's going to be a
bed rock principle of this new new playoff. That'll add something.
What I'm worried about. Is the is the is the
format of having that first game at a home time.
I would much rather have the game with the bye
team getting you know, a game an arrow ahead, or

(48:15):
or one of the one of the big Indianapolis, one
of the big stadiums. I think the first round game
is too much of an advantage.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
To that point, Stephen, you will have earned it, which
makes the regular season every bit I think as important.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Before you you will.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
It's not a gift, you will have had to have
earned it. Real Quickly, moving on uh to his comments
for uh, you know rude Boss's thoughts.

Speaker 8 (48:45):
Well, you know you can.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
You can.

Speaker 18 (48:48):
There's plenty of ways to deal with a passive, aggressive.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Rude boss.

Speaker 9 (48:54):
I've had a lot of it in my in my time.

Speaker 18 (48:57):
You just have to think to Keith.

Speaker 19 (49:00):
But my point was, I mean, it's all great, it's
all great and good. But you know, I remember when
I was a kid, I would go and watch Nebraska
football and they thought they were gonna.

Speaker 18 (49:14):
Go to the Big Ten and dominate and listen, I gotta,
I gotta.

Speaker 9 (49:18):
I got a.

Speaker 18 (49:18):
Message for all you people on the West coast.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
You're gonna have to go to a pod format.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
We got Yukon going to the Big twelve.

Speaker 18 (49:25):
The basketball probably do to North Carolina. You are not
gonna go to the Upper Midwest. And when I don't
care if you're Oregan, You're not gonna beat anybody. You're
you're gonna get You're gonna get pounded, You're.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Iowa, You're gonna listen. I gotta get to these other calls. Steven.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
You always do a great job, but I really want
to stay on topic here in terms of how people
like the format and the two of conference. But don't
be a stranger, Steve and always appreciates your calls. Uh, Jason, Rob, James,
and Kurt, you're all coming up next. We're gonna get
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Speaker 3 (50:16):
We continue with the mid ad hour. Jan really want
to get.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Your thoughts on to his comments bad bosses and do
you like the format period in the new college football
twelve teen format?

Speaker 3 (50:28):
We don't really know. Listen.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Steven might be right. He brought up a great point
about Nebraska. I remember when Nebraska joined the Big Ten.
It's been a disaster for them, so be careful what
you wish for. But we've got fifteen teams joining the
new conferences this year, so that's a horse of a
different color. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are company line from
the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirac dot com studios.
Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show
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Speaker 2 (51:02):
All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show, the midnight
hour is off and running. We've got to his comments
regarding his former boss. We've got the new twelve team
playoff format. Great call so far, Jim Andre Steven. We
go to Jason here in Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Next. Jason, thanks for hanging on. What you got for us. Bertie, Yes, sir,
you're on the here.

Speaker 15 (51:23):
Go ahead, Hi, first time caller. I love listening to
your show to unwine on a Friday night after.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
My shift is over.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Well, welcome in, and we do this every Friday night
at midnight. Go ahead, Jason.

Speaker 15 (51:34):
Okay, So the first topic with Tua, I mean, I
really don't blame him. I agree with the guy that
said he spoke from the heart.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
You know, you know was now the time.

Speaker 15 (51:47):
I don't know who you know who really knows.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Right, but.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Enough was in the middle of an interview. Go ahead
and go ahead. What are your thoughts on the playoff,
big fellow.

Speaker 13 (51:59):
Oh, playoffs?

Speaker 15 (52:02):
I think it's gonna overall be good. You know it's
it's gonna have its wrinkles. People are gonna be upset
over who should have been five, who should have been four?

Speaker 9 (52:14):
Who should have gotten the home field.

Speaker 15 (52:16):
I'm a Buckeyes fan. I would love to see people
have to go through the shoe. But I mean, I
think that's gonna be a big issue with it. But overall,
I think it's gonna make the sport more compelling instead
of just a computer or whoever arbitrarily picking four people
or four teams.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Sorry, well, okay, you bring up a lot of good
points and I appreciate you checking in tonight, Jason, and
don't be a stranger. The seam there is we really
don't know until this plays out. We see that first
TV show. We know who's who's ranked where, who's got
the buys, who's got to go on the road, et cetera,

(52:58):
et cetera, and all the seedings, and then it's going
to really start to take shape because people will have
their opinions. Rob in Orlando, you're up next to the
Bernie Fratle Show. It's the midnight hour, Bernie.

Speaker 20 (53:09):
Good to have you on on a Friday night again.
A couple of good topics here. Thanks you off on
the on the two of situation. If you listen to
old totality of the interview was actually pretty solid at
the end of the day. Who know, a leader, either
on the field or in business, has to find what
motivates each individual person an employee.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
It just is the way it is.

Speaker 20 (53:31):
And if you're not a good leader, if you don't,
if that's the way Brian Floores was handling things, you know,
with Tua, then he didn't figure out what makes him tick.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Great point. It sounds that's a superb point. It sounds
like he was essentially a one size fits all. And
the irony here is he's a defensive guy. So defensive
guy's talking to quarterbacks. Eh, not so much, right, Rob No.

Speaker 20 (53:54):
And I think that's probably along with the lawsuit against
the NFL. One of the reasons why but we pigeonholed
is as a coach or a position coach, you know,
for years to come with regards to the NC double A.
I like the format.

Speaker 8 (54:07):
You know.

Speaker 20 (54:08):
The only struggle I have with it is, you know,
we could have really averted a lot of a lot
of moving pieces here over the last few years. If
Mark emmert a few years ago, it solidified, you know,
the deal that we needed to have here, and we
could have kept the conferences in place because beautiful woul
this playoff. Look withd you know, five conference champions you know,

(54:29):
and then you have seven at larges. So you got
to win your conference championship, you get in at your
first five seeds, and then the other seven just fall
into place naturally.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Two great points, very well in formed regarding Mark Emeric
And when they write their history books, people are going
to cry in their beer. That could have been avoided. Hey,
don't be a stranger, Bob ab outstanding stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Thank you. James in Los Angeles joins us, Hi, James,
welcome back.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
How you doing?

Speaker 9 (54:56):
Ernie mccroneon man, it's.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
A midnight hour, man having the time of my life.
You're up.

Speaker 9 (55:01):
I feel you real quick. I had heard I was
slipping through the station trying to find the score. I
heard somebody say they came back from summer and a
couple of nights ago where they saw where they met
with you and Jim Feist and a couple other people
and were congregating.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
We had lunch.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Let's yeah, we'll set the reconstrate on that. Jim a
longtime good friend of mine. So it was Bill Krackman
and Matt umansavs in. We have lunch periodically over Dom
de Marco's uh in summer Charleston. And yeah, that played
in al Scalliat loved the dude man, And that's right,
that's that's a typical epic local Las Vegas place.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I played guilty.

Speaker 9 (55:41):
Fish man, I got I got more respect for you.
I didn't really know who you were before, but now
I do, all right, So I got that up for me, Yeah,
for Tua. You know, I'm a veteran for the Marine Corps.
So in that type of situation, their job is to
try to break you mentally because spiritually, to see if

(56:02):
you're going to crack when when you know, when the
pressure is on you. Uh, everyone has their own type
of way to do it. As the last call I
had just said, you know, you had your Mike Dickens
and and you're what he hates and stuff. But that
time may have passed because now we're in a different uh,
a different era and different people, and people don't take

(56:25):
uh take it in like they used to, you know,
so like like their last collar said, he's trying to
figure out what how what what a push on there
and what not to some players respond when when when
you you can get on their butt, some players they
fold up and go into the things. So maybe he
was trying to make them better and it kind of
didn't work yet, So right, it.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Wasn't It wasn't a fit and and and and and uh,
thanks for your service by the semper fires.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
If I was in the marine real quickly, your thoughts,
your thoughts uh uh uh James On.

Speaker 9 (57:01):
It's a bittersweet, Bernie, because I'm a Pac ten guy.
You know out here, you know Ucla and wouldn't and
all that, you know, big Ucla guy, But you can't.
You can't deny that the matchups that we're going to
be facing every week, there won't be a boring week
every week.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
We listen, we got to Oregon, man, you got Ohio
stay at home in Michigan on the road, and I
think Oregon's gonna win the Big Ten.

Speaker 9 (57:24):
Go ahead, that's crazy. I'm not taking Ohio State since
our guys, okay chip Kelly, chip Kelly became the defensive coordinator.
I think Ohio State's going to go on a tear man.
But that's just me and one quincidal quick. Do you
think this will this affect March Madness and how they
make their turn pick?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
No, I don't think so, at least right away. James,
Thanks so much for the call. Thanks for your service.
I would say this that there have been conversations manned
about that might they extend March Badness? Do they want
to extend it? And there are a lot more constant pros.
I don't think it's gonna affect it. I do think
there's a chance, you know how you have the playing

(58:01):
games On Tuesday, you're at sixty eight. I could see
it going to maybe seventy two with a couple more
playing games, But that's probably a conversation for a different day.
I was as going to bring it up as a topic,
but I mean, they've expanded so many times now that
I think we might have hit our sweet spot. But again,
conversation for a differ day, because there's always people on
the bubble. Kurt and so cal, Hey, Kurt, where you've been?

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Man? Where have you been?

Speaker 13 (58:22):
Kurt oh Burn?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
How are you doing fine?

Speaker 9 (58:27):
Bern?

Speaker 13 (58:28):
I want to just real quickly give ten canned comparisons
between bosses and leaders to find man please. Bosses drive players,
leaders coach players. Boston depend on authority. Leaders depend on goodwill.

(58:50):
Bosses inspire fear. Leaders generate enthusiasm. Boss Is say I,
my and me, Leaders say we. Boss is blamed on breakdowns.
Leader's fixed breakdowns. Bosses know how it's done. Leaders share

(59:14):
how it's done. Bosses use people, Leaders develop people. Bosses
take credit, leaders give credit. Boss's command. Leaders ask. Bosses
say go, and leaders say let's go.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
So I wrote a book, Kurt called the View from
the Chief Seats and I talked about leadership, and my
definition of leaderships always been simple. Leadership is influence. It's
influence based on trust and respect that you've earned. I
don't feel that it sounds to me like in that
one on one with Tua, Brian Flores's leadership ability was

(59:57):
not at a height there. So your thoughts on that,
and real quickly on the twelve team.

Speaker 13 (01:00:01):
Playoff, Kurt, the twelve team playoffs, I think it's going
to be a platform of attrition that's gonna come with
it's going to come into play. That's a that's a
lot of football and you're not playing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
We hold that thought again, your calls are always thoughtful.
What you're basically saying is when you get to January,
you're going to be some teams around their fifteen sixteenth game.
And I've thought of that as well, Kurt, But it's
only going to be a couple of teams that that
that get that far.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
You get my drift, yes, but look.

Speaker 13 (01:00:33):
At look at the teams that these teams are playing. Now,
there's no patsies anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
About damn time, about damn time. That's just my take.

Speaker 13 (01:00:43):
Ship that should make for great football.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Kurt, do not be a stranger. Always appreciate your thoughts,
your insights as well as everybody. Everybody tonight, Jim, Andre, Steven, Jason,
Rob James, and of course Kurt. And coming up after
the Chef's update, We've got some fan favorites, Manuel Poppy,
Berto j d and Ohio Hank Tight. We're gonna get
to all of you, but first we go to our guy,
the Chef, Kevin Wyer.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
With the latest.

Speaker 10 (01:01:09):
Yeah, Bernie and major League Baseball. It was showtime in
Hollywood on Friday night.

Speaker 11 (01:01:14):
Here we go, Poshe too old, tony high fly ball
right field, hit pretty deep on the track series, He's
at the long.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Bit, good god Old.

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
That was Steven Nelson on FSR affiliate Klee C and
the Dodgers Radio Network as show a Otani with a
walk off grand slam to lift the Dodgers to a
seven to three victory over the Tampa Bay Rays and
for Otani his fortieth homer of the season. He also
has forty stolen bases, so he becomes the fastest player
in Major League history to reach the forty forty milestone.

(01:01:53):
He did it in one hundred and twenty six games.
The previous record was one hundred and forty seven by
Alfonso Soriano back in two thousand and six. Oh Showyo
Tony continuing his incredible career. The Padres do keep pace
in that National League West. They shout out the Mets
seven to nothing. The Arizona Diamondbacks do the same. The
Snake's blown out the Red Sox twelve to two. LA's

(01:02:14):
lead in the Division four games over Arizona four and
a half on San Diego. That al ease has kept
seesawing back and forth between the Yankees and Orioles, both
of those teams winning on Friday, Baltimore getting a seven
to five victory against the Astros, the New York Yankee
shutting out the Rockies three nothing, so the Yanks still
lead the Orioles by one and a half games in

(01:02:36):
that American League East. American League Central, the Guardians fall
to the Rangers five to three. The Twins unable to
take advantage, they lose to the Cardinals six to one.
But the Royals do beat the Phillies seven to fourth,
so Kansas City a game back in Minnesota in that wildcard,
or game back game ahead of Minnesota in the wildcard
game back of the Guardians in the American League Central Cleveland,

(01:02:58):
two games ahead of the Wins in the American League Central,
and in college athletics, ESPN and The Athletic both reporting
that the Big Twelve in talks with Yukana about the
school joining the league in all sports, no vote has
occurred for a potential Huskies membership and the reports do
you say that one is not close to happening as
of right now, And there's also been pushback among several

(01:03:20):
members of the Big Twelve that would need to be overcome,
the main one being that Yukona doesn't invest much in
their football program, so the join the year would be
twenty thirty one, if indeed Yukon does get the invite.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Back to you, Bernie, Thanks chef.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
We go back on to the phones.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Ladies and gentlemen, put your seatbelts on. The fast rising
legend rumor has it? Well, you know you heard that
the former UFC lightweight champ Kubeebe actually wrestled a bear.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
This dude, pin the bear. We go to Manuel and Guardina.

Speaker 13 (01:03:53):
B.

Speaker 16 (01:03:54):
Burning Burn.

Speaker 9 (01:03:57):
Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Ernie?

Speaker 16 (01:04:00):
Loving the show man? Much love, Thank you for all
the respect always let's get right into it.

Speaker 13 (01:04:06):
Man.

Speaker 16 (01:04:07):
As far as Tua, I have a little bit of
a different.

Speaker 21 (01:04:11):
Opinion on this whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
If he was a high school.

Speaker 21 (01:04:14):
Kid, Okay, even if he was a college kid, maybe, Okay,
dude is in the NFL, man, like, honestly toughing up,
like that's my opinion.

Speaker 16 (01:04:28):
And you can't really blame Flores because it's on the
record that Flora has wanted Herbert, so he kind of
was had his hands tied. He already didn't really, you know,
he preferred another guy. He gets shattered with Tua, and hey,
he was trying to put him through the fire, like
our man from the US Marine Corps was saying. Yeah,

(01:04:49):
sometimes you know, you got a boss that wants to
put you through the wringer, and it's more the better sometimes, So.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
I know what Manuel, Okay, a great point, but there's
an old thing. There are horses for courses, and not
everybody responds to that. And to a degree, I don't
just disagree with anything you're saying, but you got to
read the room.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Sometimes go ahead, you're right, You're right.

Speaker 16 (01:05:10):
So that is definitely something you know, and especially with
this day and age, where I mean honestly, man, we
all know it.

Speaker 9 (01:05:18):
These guys are soft, They're coddled.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
They's being brought up.

Speaker 22 (01:05:21):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:05:22):
They've been always been used.

Speaker 16 (01:05:23):
To being told that they're the best at everything, so
anytime that somebody has some pushback.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
On them, they don't like it.

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
So and I think Brian Flores.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Is a hell of a coach.

Speaker 21 (01:05:35):
I think that he got a rock.

Speaker 9 (01:05:36):
Deal in Miami.

Speaker 16 (01:05:37):
You know, we heard about the other stuff with the
owner telling him to lose and all that, So I
don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:05:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yeah, as far as the cold that thought, hold on
before we get, before we get real quickly to the playoff.
That's a great point that needs to be on the record.
He took over the team, Brian Flores took over the
team late in the season. They played harder, they played better,
They almost made the playoffs. And I thought they should
have retained him as the head coach then, but they
didn't onward and upward, So let's be objective about this.

(01:06:05):
You're not wrong, all right, man. Well, thoughts on the
new college football playoff format.

Speaker 15 (01:06:10):
Not a fan at all.

Speaker 18 (01:06:12):
I grew up with.

Speaker 16 (01:06:13):
You know, the bowl game's mattering on January first, bottom line, Now,
that's a share, man. I mean, I'm not even into
the whole thing.

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
Like four Bowl.

Speaker 16 (01:06:23):
Games like over a month.

Speaker 20 (01:06:24):
What kind of trap is that?

Speaker 16 (01:06:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I don't want TV, baby TV.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
And by the way, listen, there are still sixty two
Bowl games outside of the twelve playoff the twelve playoff
teams that that will you know, make the tournament. Man,
you can still go to the Peach Bowl have a
great time, right, just throwing that out there, man.

Speaker 16 (01:06:43):
But it's become gone from a diamond to a Cuban zirconia.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Ah, there's there's a reference.

Speaker 9 (01:06:49):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 19 (01:06:50):
So I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:06:52):
I won't be watching too much. Maybe the National Championship game.

Speaker 21 (01:06:57):
But I'm a Pac ten guy too, man, So I.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
Hate to see this new movement.

Speaker 16 (01:07:02):
Bernie is always keep up the good work, Love you
my brother, Tacos all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
That's right, Paco's Tacos in Los Angeles, although between us girls,
I actually like the Britos better all right, man, well
as always coming sick with it. Another fan favorite, Poppy
in San Diego. Your Potters, no matter what they do,
they can't make up ground on the Dodgers.

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:07:25):
Yeah, they're getting close to the Dodgers.

Speaker 23 (01:07:28):
I think they'll win the division. But that's another subject.
Bernie that thanks for having the midnight hour. I think
wasn't feeling too good and you made my night and
everyone the midnight hour. And I wanted to say about the.

Speaker 9 (01:07:39):
You know, you know a tour by law with Brian,
you know.

Speaker 23 (01:07:42):
Like we all had that, and I can relate to him.
I agree with Tua said, you know, we all had
a VOS.

Speaker 13 (01:07:48):
Look.

Speaker 9 (01:07:48):
I used to work at.

Speaker 19 (01:07:49):
Starbucks and I had a VOZ that I was very abusive.

Speaker 23 (01:07:52):
I had to go through the training.

Speaker 9 (01:07:53):
I had to clean the rest of them, men and women.

Speaker 23 (01:07:55):
I was doing graveyard ship to doing everything. I was
taking on the orders and making the drinks and doing
two things in one. I was pretty much like you
could say I was an AI bought, but I was
actually doing the work, making everything. And then then the
morning shift actually said, hey, we're better than the graveyard shift,
and I'm like, oh yeah, well, you guys aren't challenging.
I'm going to prove that I'm the best. So they

(01:08:19):
were like, you know, abuse of me, and I'm like,
I'm going to show you, guys.

Speaker 16 (01:08:22):
So I went in there.

Speaker 19 (01:08:23):
Bernie in the morning.

Speaker 23 (01:08:24):
And then I was like doing the worlds everything and
this is what happened the abusive you know boss.

Speaker 9 (01:08:30):
I didn't care what they said.

Speaker 23 (01:08:31):
The customer said, hey, thanks for being here. The directors like,
oh my gosh, this is the fastest thing I've come
here for my morning, my cappuccino on my drinks, and
you're the first fastest person that dressed. I was like,
thank you very much. I appreciate it. And the big
dogs came from Starbucks and Seattle and asked me how
everyone how everything was gonna say, good, Well, long story short, Bernie,
I know what was happening. That abusive boss gave.

Speaker 9 (01:08:53):
You one right up to ride up.

Speaker 23 (01:08:55):
Long story short. I was like, well, I'm gonna do
bus up, Bill, but chick can be better than the boss.
And I was California. I was like, I want you
to fire me so I can get unemployment.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
I go on, well, yeah, hey, let's real quickly, Poppy.
Do you like the twelve team playoff? College football is
eight hours and twenty three minutes away. Do you like
this year's college playoff format?

Speaker 23 (01:09:18):
I do love it? But Bernie, you know why because
it seems like the Mount West like a Boise States
when they were undefeated that year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I got a chance. Yeah, I got a chance. That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Ban refused to play him in a home and home
believe it or not. Back in the day they beat Oregon.
They beat some good teams, all right, Poppy, Appreciate you
as always, man, and we'll see you next Friday night.
Comberto jd You Ohio, Bryston, Texas. Hang right there, We'll
be right with you. I'm Bernie fraderwork. Come to your
line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarreck dot

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com studios.

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Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
We're back in the Bernie Fatle Show, Fox Sports Radio
Company Liveromatire dot com studios here in Las Vegas. Another
outstanding job by the callers during the midnight hour. We
are talking about to his comments regarding his former coach
Brian Flores.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
He was asked a question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I feel like the way he structured the answer was Okay,
you know, how would you feel if you were talking
to this way?

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
But some collars bottle some good points.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Uh, you know, maybe it should have been water under
the bridge, but se lev And then of course we
have the new twelve team college football Playoff, which I'm
very enthusiastic about. But we've had some good variant opinions
on him as well, A clean manuelf from Guardina who
says he might not even watch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Yeah, he's a man of his word. Back out to
the phones on Perto in San Diego on the place
will be any too, and.

Speaker 24 (01:11:01):
Withien listen, Bernie, and regarding to us, I mean, it's
incredible that that happened to him. But Urban Meyer show
everybody how a coach can basically destroy players.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Remember the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Jacksonville was almost an s show. But you get my
drifts go ahead of Briton.

Speaker 9 (01:11:25):
Yeah. But and but the thing that that I take
from that situation is.

Speaker 24 (01:11:29):
Brian Flores, I follow the Patriots what he did on
his press conference a couple of days later that he
was not he was a schedule for the press conference,
and he addressed the situation and basically apologized for not
being up to par where he had to be that.
That's what I appreciated. What the whole thing that's happened.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
And Berta, you're a thought, Oh guy, hold that thought.
I want to chop this up for a second. He
did do that. Top props for him doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Do you think he might have done it because he
still wants to be considered to be a head coach someday. Yes,
fair enough, Berto, continue my man.

Speaker 24 (01:12:09):
And regarding the twelfteen playoffs, the jury is out, we
don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, when we see
blowouts or do we see parity?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
But we see we see blowouts already in the regular
in the regular tournament umberto will we see that now?

Speaker 24 (01:12:26):
Now this is the thing with the NIEL and now
with everybody trying to go through, huh, what percentage of
players are gonna out of the storders are gonna play
in the playoffs? That's gonna That's the thing that I
want to see. Because these kids, they're asking them to
play thirteen, fourteen, fifteen games. I don't know if their
bodies are for that because they're too young. So we'll

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see what the product, how the product comes out. This
is the first year, so I'm gonna I'm gonna hold
my thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Okay, Okay, you're bringing up some eximent points. I appreciate you,
amberto thank you. The thing that jumps at me, I mean,
the college football season, for all intents and purposes, used
to always be done on New Year's Day, and it
didn't start to Labor Day. Now it's essentially starting a
week before Labor's Day, Labor Day, and it can go

(01:13:16):
all the way to January twentieth. January twentieth, I think
that's Inauguration Day too, and it'll be a Monday night game. Look,
it's gonna blow up. Okay, but what we don't know
are what the law of intended consequences might be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
So good, good, good point. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
JD in Ohio, you're up next, my friend. Let's talk
about apologize. If I could read, I would be much smarter. Bryceton, Texas,
you are up next, my friend.

Speaker 9 (01:13:46):
Hey, how's it going good? How are you you do
a lovely ding?

Speaker 25 (01:13:52):
I'll start with it to vumits.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 25 (01:13:56):
I don't know why he's getting bashed.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
That's the way he is.

Speaker 25 (01:14:00):
This is like two years after the fact. He's already
put up better numbers. Big Daniels already came in and
showed like changed the atmosphere.

Speaker 16 (01:14:08):
I talked to you last.

Speaker 25 (01:14:09):
Week about a guy named Gary b I'm going to
talk to you about Simon Sinik this week.

Speaker 8 (01:14:13):
He wrote a book called.

Speaker 25 (01:14:14):
He's Leaders Eat Last mm hmm, and through that entire
book he talked about setting atmosphere for your people to
scribe in. And I think Brian Flora's just mid setting
the right atmosphere, not thinking he's a bad coach, but
he didn't get the atmosphere right.

Speaker 8 (01:14:29):
And I think that fall that too, was say.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I think I think you characterized that pretty darn good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Uh, because I I do know there are some people
that took umbrage with to his remarks, but by and large,
I think the majority were sort.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Of on his side.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
And but but it raises a larger, a larger issue.
I mean, have you ever dealt with a bad boss
like that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Bryce?

Speaker 15 (01:14:54):
I've had about fair share.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
And did you did you?

Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
How did you?

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
How did you react? How did you deal with it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
And when whatever whatever action you took, how you know,
how how was it met with by your boss? I've
had people go off on I've seen people go off
on bosses, and then the bosses back down. I'm trying
to talk them out to quittin when all along they
were pushing them out the door and didn't even know it.
Continue you get the floor.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
Well, unfortunately, I couldn't do that.

Speaker 25 (01:15:22):
I was in the military at one point. Couldn't do
it as a military And the second job that I
worked for was the state jobs. Again, you can't really
do that. But I'm self employed now, so I guess
all the bad bosses pushed me into self employment.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
JT.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Really good call, man. I appreciate you, and we do
this every Friday night. Let's get the crew in here.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Bree. Your thoughts on the situation with Tua.

Speaker 22 (01:15:49):
Yeah, so I'm kind of I had like some really
good thoughts about it, and then everybody's kind of kind
of convincing me, like.

Speaker 26 (01:15:56):
Okay, well, you know, he was just being honest and everything.

Speaker 22 (01:16:00):
But initially, I think true character reveals itself in the end,
like Tua didn't really need to air him out like
that if he already has an opportunity. But Ryan Floyd
has already got an opportunity. He's already coaching on the Vikings.
These coaches get recycled all all the time. So if
he ever gets an opportunity to be ahead of coach again,
obviously maybe he'll do it differently. I just didn't think
it was like the best way to handle that. And like,

(01:16:21):
like I think Bryce just said, like Tua has already
like changed the whole narrative about how he is as
a quarterback. He's already thriving in a new system. Why
do you have to bring up all that old everything old?
Like some people just don't align. Not everyone can be
Sean Pagon and Drew Brees and be all Kumbayan best friends.
But Bill Belichick and Tom Brady weren't best friends. And
look how much they got accomplished.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
You know, so right, And I think I think two
was wounded.

Speaker 24 (01:16:46):
I just do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
I think he kept us buried for a long time.
And I'm not defending him as much as I'm trying
to add some semblance. Yeah, the longer this, the more
distance from what happened and time going on to it
looks a little worse because I think he could have
actually handled better.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Thoughts on the twelve team playoff, I'm.

Speaker 22 (01:17:06):
Really excited for it, and I just think along with
the realignment and everything. I think it's just going to
be a really fun year for college football. So I
think it's going to just give that whole like that
aura of like anything can happen. So I'm really excited.
I think it's going to be really fun.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Yeah. For me, I would say this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
My biggest beef all along was from the made for
TV four team Invitational tournament, which is all I ever
called it every year is you have five power conferences,
so someone's getting left out every year even though you
want a conference championship and all playoffs should be conference
championship based in some form of fashion.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
This at least is gonna correct that. Chef. You're up next.
What are your thoughts on TUA and the four team playoff?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Well, twelve team playoff?

Speaker 10 (01:17:52):
Yeah well TUA. I mean, I agree with Brian many
of the callers where I mean, I do think he
was being honest, but it's also sour grapes on his part.
I don't see what good it does to rehash that
now when uh, he's been without Brian Flores as his
coach for a couple of years now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
So asked the question, though you got it, I mean,
but you're right, he could have handled it better.

Speaker 10 (01:18:10):
He could have handled it better, And I just don't
think it does anyone any good and creates a needless
distraction when Tua arguably has found the right coach for him,
allowing him to succeed in that environment. So I think,
as it is right now, he's got a good situation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
So I think he tried to make that parallel real quickly.

Speaker 10 (01:18:27):
The twelve team playoff, you w this is blonging overdue.
I mean, I consider the four team it wasn't a playoff.
It was a joke because how do.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
You call it in tournament?

Speaker 10 (01:18:38):
It's an invitational tournament. It was about the biggest names
who can draw the most eyeballs. It was not about
the best teams on the field, as we saw with
Florida State last year, despite their quarterback going down with injury,
they were still undefeated against the superior strength schedule compared
to Alabama, as I recall, So the twelve team playoff
will allow all teams who are deserving to be in

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to play in the playoffs, and we'll not exclude any
truly deserving team. And that's something we've been wanting for
college football for a long time, and It's something that
the fans truly deserve, the players deserve to be able
to play for a championship, to side it on the
field and not by judges or a committee the way
it is in gymnastics or figure skating.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I love that analogy there, and Mark, I don't want
to cut you short, so the B block one o'clock.
We'll get your thoughts on both those subjects. I want
to give you ample time. Listen to two things that
undeniably does. It doesn't leave out any conference champions all right,
you're gonna get a power group of five one in there,
and it's gonna be saded on the field. Now, do

(01:19:39):
I think Florida State would have got hammered without their
starting quarterback? Probably, but it was theoretical. We're never gonna know,
are we. Now it's going to be sated on the
field instead of like a four team movie. Speaking of movies,
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Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Yes, something like that, so I could come up with
so twenty years ago this week I went to a
couple of movies. One became a cult classic. The other
was Herolin Kumar Go to Whitecastle. That's a story for
a different day time. You movie buffs for breeze threes.

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
Not one, not two, but three.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Sports.

Speaker 7 (01:21:08):
It's entertainment, it's good, it's breeze three.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Alrighty, you know what to do?

Speaker 26 (01:21:17):
Alrighty. So I'm guessing the other movie was Napoleon Dynamite.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
It was right, absolutely, Napoleon Dynamite.

Speaker 26 (01:21:24):
Alrighty.

Speaker 22 (01:21:25):
So earlier this week, actor John Heater was a guest
on our very own Dan Patrick Show, and you know,
talked about how, yeah, they celebrated the twenty year anniversary,
and that's how cult classics came up.

Speaker 26 (01:21:38):
So I decided to kind of take a look and think, like,
what are.

Speaker 22 (01:21:42):
Like three really really good like cult classics at least
my favorite. So I'm not saying that these are the
ones that you know, everybody thinks should be cult classics,
but these are just my favorite. So starting at number three,
I went The Princess Bride. So I think that's like
something you know, nineteen eighty seven. How many quotes can
anybody knows that from that movie, like my Name, there's

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a lot actually.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
A lot that actually became a big time continue on yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:22:08):
Yeah, it's no, no, and it's true.

Speaker 22 (01:22:09):
And so I mean, so that was huge and just
so many like random appearances like Andrea, the Giant, Billy
Crystal right. I mean, it was just like so much
fun and it's like a movie I think it still
holds up to this day.

Speaker 26 (01:22:22):
And I mean just to kind of just bring in
the crew.

Speaker 22 (01:22:24):
I mean, it is that like a movie that we
I think anybody kind of you can see over and
over again and you can talk about with pretty much anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Well, it's very quotable and obviously many of the quotes
have become mainstream. And I mean any movie that has
a six fingered man and a bunch of miracles and
eels and it's kind of a MIDI it's kind of
had a medieval to it, Yeah, and I think that
kind of drew people in because there was a weirdness about.

Speaker 22 (01:22:48):
The movie, definitely, And so so that was my number three.
Then I went Warriors nineteen seventy nine and number two.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Great movie, right, yes, yes, So I.

Speaker 22 (01:22:59):
Thought that was super fun, just kind of that battle
between those like the city gangs and just like that's
just something that you just you can watch again over
and over again, and I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
And great soundtrack too. Featured the song in the City
by the Eagles, which want to be like.

Speaker 22 (01:23:13):
A top five hit, yes, and so like and I
think and I was kind of reading that like it
just it wasn't like it didn't get.

Speaker 26 (01:23:20):
That much love when it first came out. I mean
I wasn't around, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
That's the idea. But seeing to define a cold cla classic,
it's it didn't do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
All in the theaters at all, but later on something
happened and it developed into a cultural phenomenon, and really, yes,
and so it becomes a cult classic after it didn't
do well in the theaters.

Speaker 22 (01:23:40):
Yes, So I said, I had that as my number two,
and then for my number one, I went The Big Lebowski.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
That's actually on my list, go ahead, no, And so
I did.

Speaker 22 (01:23:54):
I did because I just think that's just a really
really fun movie. And it's just like I'm trying to
think and like again, like how many quotes can you
can you just name from that? How many parties can
you let's just have like white Russians all day long,
White Russian.

Speaker 26 (01:24:10):
Wednesday or whatever?

Speaker 22 (01:24:12):
I mean, if you go bowling like nobody f's with
the Jesus, you know, I mean, I mean, how And
then like that's just like your opinion, man, I mean,
like how many things you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
That's just like your opinion has become the most yes,
the most notable.

Speaker 26 (01:24:27):
You know, you're entering a world of pain, I mean.

Speaker 22 (01:24:30):
And then like it's just like it's just so much
fun and to think like you know, like the following
that it has, and and just a variety of different
people like I mean, I'm just like a girl from
Orange County, like random girl, and I can talk about
that movie, right, I mean, I think like all of
us kind of can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Right, you bet so great? It's three very good ones.
And this is always difficult because.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
It's like picking your favorite nood A lot of play
the spaghetti rather than less all the ones that I considered,
you would just be here all night. So I want
to dive right in because I'll go ahead start with
Big Lebowski because these aren't in a particular order. And
I must say that one of the things that makes
these movies still notable are in some senses they're relatable
on some psychological level. But also they all have great

(01:25:14):
casts and memorable epic lines and quotes. And so when
you look at The Big Lebowski, I mean you have
a first of all, it's a Joel and Ethan Cohen movie, right,
those guys are just legends. But look at the cast.
Jeff bridge Is, John Goodman, Julianne Moore, Steve Bushemi, John Taturo,
Sam Elliott, Sam Elliott, Yes he has kind of a

(01:25:37):
cameo towards the end, but yes, he's very much in it.
And here's a dude who's mistaken for somebody else. He
gets into this kidnapping scheme. But the lines, the White Russians,
the bowling, the quotes John Goodman's just freaking epic, and
that guy's got a lot of range. So Big Lebowski
very much makes my list that came out in nineteen

(01:25:57):
ninety eight, because we start with Office Space, I cannot
not leave it off my list.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
I was gonna put.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
It's on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I mean it edged out Romey and Michelle's high school
reunion in a couple other ones. But here's the deal.
Come on, Uncle Rico could have won state championship in
eighty two. I even had a vote for Pedro shirt
Lafonda right up into his brother, the Cage Flager, the
dance scene that movie. You walked in not having any
idea what you were walking into, and you come walking out.

(01:26:28):
You start telling your buddy, my god, you gotta see
this movie. You're not gonna believe it. I did not
recommend that movie to one person who didn't thank me,
because it was so unique and so you know, distinctive. Finally,
this is one that I just for principal watched it
at least once every two years. And of course it
was directed by Mike Judge, who created Beavis and butt Head,

(01:26:50):
starring Ron Livingston Jennifer Aniston. How much flair did you
wear today? Of course I'm talking about Office Space. Only
made seven men at the box office, and my judge
was so cool as you thought they killed it and
they said, you idiot, this is a flop in Hollywood.
All of a sudden, Comedy Central started promoting. It went
out on VHS, and the rest is history. Office Space

(01:27:11):
is very relatable. We've all worked for companies. How about
poor Milton never got us cake burned the place down,
you know, he got fired in payroll.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
But by the way, you got those TPS reports for me.
We can go on all night. So those are my
three Office Space, the Big Lebowski and Napoleon Dynamite.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
And again a couple got edged out that it was
hard to Edjock as Rome and Michelle's high school re
union was fairly epic. But there's a bunch of them.

Speaker 22 (01:27:40):
All right, Uh go ahead, yeah, okay, So we'll start
and we'll go to Mark and then we'll go to
Chef right after.

Speaker 7 (01:27:48):
So having to edit down all the movies, like you
were saying, because Breeze question and uh this the whole
the Breeze three, it's just so difficult to narrow it
down when you when movies start popping into your head,
you think, what about that? What about that? About that? Anyway,
So I've narrowed it down to Blazing Saddles for Yes, Jean,

(01:28:12):
all time favorite movie.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
There we go fifty years. Oh my god. Gene Wilder, Cleveland, Little.

Speaker 7 (01:28:17):
Go Ahead, just the idea of you know, talking about
Mongo being you know, the pawn s.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Garrits who played for the Lions played Mongo go Ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
And then my other mel Brooks, Young Frank you took mine. Sorry,
well you can still you hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
That doesn't matter. We all have different perspectives again, Gene Wilder,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
Well then then I'll give I'll give Kevin back his
young Frank. I'm gonna go with Airplane.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Yeah, Leslie, that's that launched Leslie Nielsen's career.

Speaker 7 (01:28:50):
Absolutely, absolutely was it. There was so many, you know,
just so many lines that you know, just just a
bunch of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
They're good ones. Mark, My god, these are classics, and
I mean I have although I thought the airplane did
well in the movies, is that I mean it became
a go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:29:06):
Yeah, it got better and better as people started to
watch it, so it gained its uh you know, and
happiness and people start to love it. I have and
one more that I could. I'll think about as Caddy Shack,
of course, and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
You know, Caddy you got the floor, but you know,
Caddy Shack Airplane it came out the same month, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
And then my honorable mention that I just thought of
the jerk with Steve Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Oh, mister Hartuti and he hates those cans, he hates
those cans.

Speaker 7 (01:29:39):
But the new phone books are here. The new phone
books are here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Oh man, that is a really really good ones.

Speaker 7 (01:29:49):
That was really difficult to narrow it down. I had
a bunch of things written down.

Speaker 26 (01:29:53):
Jane was amazing.

Speaker 22 (01:29:56):
You know how your old man to drag Walton and
like we're up and down the court for forty eight minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
No, my name is Roger Murdoch. Did I've been hearing
that crap since I was at U c l A.

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
Roger Roger what Clarence what's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
Your vector, Victor, what's your Clarence? Clarence, I'm good, go ahead,
Ken do you speak giant? By the way, slavy piece
of the porter on the drink side around the java.

Speaker 7 (01:30:18):
That was so good.

Speaker 10 (01:30:19):
Well, I had a couple of mind taking both young.
I'm gonna keep my young friggin sign. That's my number one,
to spoil it. But I also had Princess Bride in there.
That was my number three. That's a good one, my
number two. Pulp fiction. Now, I'm not old enough to
remember how it did in theaters, but it didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
It did well, but it also became a cult.

Speaker 10 (01:30:39):
It became a cool classic. I mean, Samuel Jackson's performer.
That's his iconic performance, isn't nice?

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
How about the dance scene between Uma Thurman and John
Coulta played with great Chuck Berry song go ahead?

Speaker 10 (01:30:50):
So yeah, I put that there and then number one.
I was raised on mel Brooks. I've seen all his
movies just about and I could have listed three of
them as cool classics. Blazing Saddles is one of them.
I could quote that movie beginning to end. Spaceballs is
one of my favorite. I'm a star Trek fans, so
that movie really spoke to me. History of the World

(01:31:12):
Part one, the producers, but really for me, Young Frankenstein
is the king. One reason why is it was immortalized
by Aerosmith because the way the story goes is that
they had the guitar riff right, you know, the guitar
riff and walk this Way, but they didn't have any
words to go to the song. So they took a
break in the in recording right and went to the

(01:31:33):
movie theater Young Frankenstein was playing. They get to the
scene where I Gore says, walk this way with his
little cane, and then he hands it to Gene Walder
and he walked down the stairs the same way with
a little cane. That's where walk this Way came from.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
So that's why.

Speaker 10 (01:31:47):
So that's why I put it number one, Walk this
Way inspired by Young Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I can't imagine a better You guys just absolutely killed it.
And I thought I was waiting because again you can't
get to all of them. I thought, maybe this is
final tap might make the list right for somebody, Maybe
Reservoir Dogs.

Speaker 26 (01:32:07):
Reservoir Dogs, I was gonna say, or I had to pick.

Speaker 10 (01:32:09):
A Tarantino movie as well. Yeah, I settled on pull fiction,
but it was that Reservoir dogs I loved in Glorious Bastards.

Speaker 26 (01:32:16):
I feel like kill bills in there too. Just yeah,
I killed Definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
I'm going to throw another one at you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Guys are all going to go, oh yeah, Clerks, but
it wasn't for everybody. Clerks was a low budget comedy
about one day at a convenience store in New Jersey
and it's like what is this?

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
And I'm like, what is this? And it popped? I
thought it popped.

Speaker 22 (01:32:34):
Kevin Smith, yep, for my unall mentions like I'm just
gonna go like kind of like nineties like Clueless, Like
I feel like Clueless is kind of in there, but
Kevin said that he had never seen Clueless.

Speaker 7 (01:32:45):
Yeah, well that was That was a damn good movie,
right so, and.

Speaker 26 (01:32:49):
I feel like as if like, oh, you know you're
a virgin who can't drive. I mean those are just
a lot and Yet, oh wow, yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:32:56):
That was.

Speaker 13 (01:32:58):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Hey listen yet Alicia Silverstone, Paul Rudd, Britney Murphy, Stacy
Dash and they were all smart asses to the inn degree.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
There was some serious one liners in that movie.

Speaker 26 (01:33:10):
Paul Rud looks exactly the same as he did as
he does now in that movie. So I feel like, yeah,
that's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Yeah, I mean, look, that movie actually checked a lot
of boxes. It really did. All right, great job, everybody,
b you got the last word.

Speaker 26 (01:33:27):
Yeah, that was pretty much it. Thanks guys.

Speaker 7 (01:33:29):
That was super fun, great.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Great, great work everybody, really, I mean it because you
brought a lot of depth and texture into the conversations,
including the backstories and things of that nature. And a
few snuck in there on the list that that wasn't expecting.
So excellent, excellent movies, pop culture, sports.

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And oh, by the way, if there's a if you
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Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Before I get to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
That little tet of teed a certain football coach has
with a certain reporter and a certain city, Mark Ramsey,
bring us home real quickly, your thoughts on Tua and
whether or not you like the com football format.

Speaker 7 (01:35:59):
Like some of the callers was saying that there's a
difference in how coaches coach. Now there's the ones from
the sixties, seventies and eighties and nineties. There's just the
approach of coaches that yell and curse and coaches that
don't yell and curse, curse and are more mild mannered

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and how they go about things. On the one hand,
Tua didn't have to bring it up if somebody asked
him a question. He didn't have to bring up dirty laundry.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
That's fair. I think that's a fair point.

Speaker 7 (01:36:32):
That's a clubhouse thing, and that's how he was treated
in that situation. He didn't have to talk about it.
It's like, you know, a guy talking about his wife
or a wife talking about her husband when she's out
with a girlfriends. You don't have to bring up stuff.
You can find a way hopefully to just move along.
You don't have to bring up your dirty laundry. And
then there's coaches that you like, like we all know,

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they yelled and scream to get their point across, and
then other ones don't yell. They find a way how
to talk to people. And so that's just the overall
thing talked about too, and how he's going about his
life and how he goes about dealing with his bosses,
with his coaches, and like we already said, everybody does
it differently. Every player is different of how they're going

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to be reached. Current players, like one of the callers said,
seem to be a little soft and they don't take
to being yelled at. They don't that's not their mindset
of how they want to be talked to and how
they were, you know, talk to others. So that doesn't
work with most of the current players. So that's just

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the overall thought, you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Know, retrospect, TUA got a little too chatty, didn't He
didn't have to, could have said, you know, Brian and
I had our times, but we've moved on, and I
wish him it's not you know, and it's easy for
me to do that here now and then right, I
just feel I try to operate. Almost said a bad words,
a darn about me, But what I was going to
say is, you know, if you scratch that itch, you're

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gonna there's gonna be a price to pay later and
if you can't unring that belt once it comes out
of your mound or real quickly out of the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (01:38:13):
So just to overall from you knowing everything about college football,
just to basically it's because they've they've changed all the
conferences now, that's right, they've moved everything around.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Well, there are fifteen teams that have moved from one
conference to another, that's part of it. But what they've
done is expand the playoffs to a twelve team legitimate tournament.
Now then that I think not everybody's brought into that.
You see what I'm saying, and maybe you need to
look at it more before you give your final answer.

Speaker 7 (01:38:41):
No, that's fine because I guess if there's more football,
that's going to make a lot of people happy because
they want to see more games, and no question, and
the overall thing about teams feeling like they got left
out because there wasn't enough spaces for them. That temporarily
might make somebody happy because now there's a space for them,
but as we know, somebody's going to complain because they

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still didn't get in. They still didn't make the cut.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
So I like the way you just channeled your inner
Taylor Swift. You got a blank space, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Your name? Oh what can I get away with that?
Never mind?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Continue, Mark, you got the last word. And I want
to get to this deal here. But your points taken.

Speaker 7 (01:39:18):
It's just you know, if it's more games with people,
that's great, and then somebody's going to complain with they
don't make the cut, and then they'll just you know,
go all around again until they change it again.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Yeah, this right, whether or not they change it again.
But think about what you said, more football, more TV,
more money, more opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Dude, we're all here for it. I think the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Ratings are going to be very good, all right, if
your name is Sean Keeler and you're writ for the
Denver Post.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
You have two choices.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
You cannot go to Colorado practice anymore or games, or
you cannot go to Colorado practice and not ask questions
to Deon Sanders. Actually he's still he's still able to go.
They didn't see block him out of there. But I
will say this that this is something I don't recall
I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
This is the quote.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
After a series of sustained personal attacks on the football
program and specifically coach Prime, the cu athletic department in
conjunction with the football program, I've decided not to take
questions from Denver Post columnist Sean Keeler at football related events.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
End quote.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
I'm looking forward to having our guy Darren McKeon from
Denver and Oscot Chad Anders and see what their thoughts are.
This feels like it's as wrong as rain on your
opening day. It just does not feel right to me,
and I would say this. I think it's such a
bad precedent, and I know that if maybe some of
this is unprofessional leegend. Lee Sanders has been called the

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false Prophet, the Deposition, Dion Planet Prime, the Bruce Lee
of bs Dion kool Aid Circus, and Dion has been
sensitive since Aminity got there, and I like Deon a lot,
but this is really.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Going the other way now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
And if for whatever reason Colorado doesn't win more than
seven or eight games this year, this could really go
south fast. And you've got a couple of big time
players that's onunch your door, and of course Travis Hunter
to the top players in the country.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
They have a tough matchup.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
They open up against North Dakota State, which would be
a plucky team, a physical team.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
I do expect Colorado to win that game at home.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
They might not, but I do expect them to and
I think it'll be It'll be a slobby knocker, It'll
be a fist fight in a phone booth. But then
you got to go to Nebraska, and that is going
to be, I believe, the primer for the season. And
if Colorado loses it in Nebraska, I think that that
could be the start of Domino's falling. And if they
don't even make it to a bowl game this year,

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who knows what's going to happen. So apparently Colorado Athletics
began barning Keeler from asking questions ten days ago after
he wrote a colin that was very critical of Dion
and his behavior at the Fall Sports Media Day. Hey
this is Dion man. You know who'd you think you
were getting? This story is continuing and we'll follow it

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as well as well as we will be following in
Colorado football. Coming up Chris profess World of Soccer for first,
we go back to the chef Kevin Wyer and.

Speaker 10 (01:42:29):
No wonder Colorado will only with four and a last
year if that's what he's focusing on anyway. The big
story in college athletics though today Yukon in the Big
Twelve in talks about the Huskies joining the Big Twelve
in all sports, including football. That's a report by both
ESPN and The Athletic earlier today. The reports did say
that no vote has occurred for a potential Huskies membership,

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nor is one close to happening. There's also been pushback
among several members of the Big Twelve that would need
to be overcome. The primary one is Yukon's investment in
to their football program. So the Huskies plan would be
to join the conference in twenty thirty one to give
them the time to set up the foundation. The nil
was specifically mentioned in the reports to get them the

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funding and competitive level they need to be at to
be on par with their Big twelve counterparts. So against
twenty thirty one is when they're aiming at to join
the conference, if indeed that is what both sides decide
to do. In Major League Baseball, showtime in Hollywood Friday Night.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
Here we go.

Speaker 11 (01:43:31):
Posha too old tony high fly ball right field, hit
pretty deep on the track series at.

Speaker 9 (01:43:39):
The low.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
God.

Speaker 10 (01:43:45):
Oh, that was Stephen Nelson on FSR affiliate KLAC and
the Dodgers Radio Network Showy Otani a grand salami to
help lift the Dodgers over the race seven to three
for Otani, his fortieth home run the season. He also
has forty steals so far this year, so a forty
forty season. He's the fastest player in history to reach

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that mark one hundred and twenty six games. Alfonso Siriano
when two thousand and six was the previous fastest player.
He did it in one hundred and forty seven, So
show hey, breaking that record by twenty one games. He's
also the first Dodger to accomplish that feet in that
franchise's long and storied history. Elsewhere in the National League West,
the Padres do keep pace. They shout out the Mets

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seven to nothing. The Diamondbacks do the same a blowt
win against the Red Sox twelve to two. LA's lead
in that division is now four games over Arizona, four
and a half up on the Padres. The Al Central
is super tight right now. Guardians lose to the Rangers
five to three, Royals do beat the Phillies seven to four,
and the Twins unable to take advantage of the Guardians loss,

(01:44:51):
they do lose to the Cardinals six to one. So
the lead for Cleveland won game over Kansas City, two
games on Minnesota, and the Royals also move up to
the second spot in that American League Wild Card.

Speaker 7 (01:45:04):
Back to you, Bernie, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Chef, good job, and I'm kicking myself. We're gonna have
to talk about this movie in a future show. I
can't believe we left out Little Giants, which is just
epically good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
The annexation of Puerto Rico. You better not say nothing
about my.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Mama, all the cameo appearances Emmitt Smith and Tim Brown,
blah blah blah, and of course Rick Moris. Just look
at that guy makes me laugh at O'Neil of course,
Al Bundy. All right, my bad, I got off topic
there as I want to do. All right, plenty of
news and by the way, where have you gone? Messi

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America turns its lonely lines to you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Well, maybe Chris Profestor has the answers. In Chris Profest's
World of Soccer.

Speaker 5 (01:45:47):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes the international drama. It's
all here in this report from the World of soccer.

Speaker 27 (01:46:06):
Four European leagues all rejoined play last week Vernie and
this week Bundesliga got underway. On Friday, defending champions Bayer
Leferkusen scored a thrilling three to two victory over Borussia Monchiglabach,
and the winning goal came in the one hundred and
eleventh minute, in the dying seconds of stoppage times as

(01:46:30):
Leverkusen looks to defend a historic title that saw them
running away with the with the Bundesliga last year. If
you recall last year, they were on something of a
lossless streak. They had refused to post a lost and
was picking up points for quite a while now it's
a very good thing.

Speaker 7 (01:46:48):
They'll be keeping the lead on.

Speaker 27 (01:46:49):
Florian Wurtz as long as they have him, who scored
two goals, including that winning goal we just mentioned, and
it gives new life into Bundesliga, once one of the
most excited leagues, especially in fan culture in Europe, and
yet I feel has really diminished itself by basically being
Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich for over

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a decade and croaching into a decade and a half
in some places. The more teams are competitive in a league,
the better it is. Bayer Leverkusen coming out of the
gate strong, you know, is a great sign. But I
hope we're also going to see stuff this year out
of RB Leipsig, out of Varusia dortmun out of Stuttgart,
and yes, out of Bayern Munich as well. The old

(01:47:34):
Kings cannot fade away, but I would like to see
a lot more competition than rather than even in the
year that bayer Leverkusen won. Last year they ran away
with it to the tune of a seventeen point lead
over over the second place Varussia dortmun It's hard to
ask for things to be competitive in domestics league soccer,
but the more they are, the closer they are all

(01:47:55):
to being competitive all the time, the better off the
sport is. Speaking of competitive, the Premier League season in
England is starting to take shape, a lot of teams
with a lot of hope out here. At some point
I might talk about Brighton and Hove Albion, who has
been one of these teams who's always been knocking on
the door or even asked in Villa. But I want
to turn my attention to a team who we've seen

(01:48:17):
at the top and yet questions remain to see what
their new future looks like, and that is Liverpool. We
spoke at length last season about the departure of their
longtime manager Jurgen Klop, not for any dismissal or failure
to produce, but rather a massive burnout from the German
wonder kin who had brought Liverpool several to a Champions

(01:48:40):
League title, Premier League titles, and had kept the club
at the top among the Big six, and it actually
paid dividends in an era that is increasingly becoming more
and more dominated by Manchester City. However, a lot of
questions surround Liverpool. I don't expect them to see them
fade off entirely. They started the Premier League strong to

(01:49:00):
over ipswich Town, a newly promoted side. They'll be taking
on Brentford here on Sunday in one of the big
games eleven thirty am Eastern Time. Brentford getting off to
a one win start, but not exactly the world beaters.
But either way, Liverpool, now with its new manager arn Slott,
has a lot to figure out. Mohammed Sala, their superstar,

(01:49:23):
a scoring phenom in the Premier League, has bandied around
with the idea of transferring out. You know, we've seen
his name come up during the transfer window a lot,
and yet he remains for the time being at Liverpool.
It's another year that started with Mohammed Sala scoring a
goal in the first game of the season, something he's

(01:49:44):
done nearly every year except for I believe twenty seventeen
that he's been with the club, and he is something
of a key figure to the club. So is Darwin
Nunez and Luis Diaz and plenty of players who just
really need to step up and send Liverpool over the
top because this is a very tough year Arsenal has

(01:50:05):
shown there are no such out Manchester City have a
guy named Earling Holland he already scored last week, Just
just letting you know he's already back and scoring. But
what are we to do with Liverpool? What are we
to do with the men up at Anfield? They haven't
really been active signing anyone here in this window. Arnslatt
does look ready for the job to fill Jurgen Klop's shoes,

(01:50:29):
and yet they're inactivity at the summer window. Kind of
leaves a lot of questions to be asked. This might
be the swan song of Liverpool, not just Mohammed Sala
in the final year of his contract, but we're also
looking at contracts that are now done with after this year,
with Virgil Venjique, with Trent alex Xander Arnold final years.

(01:50:49):
There deals no new deals seemingly on the horizon for
the time being, which means all signs really point to
this might be if there are no new deals at
any point, a final run for what has been Liverpool's
golden age of the modern times. However, I still expect
them to make Champions League at the very least, but

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just as they were kind of making that kind of
mid season push for the Premier League title. I think
I'd like to see them win the domestic league's and
I'm sure they would like to win the Premiership as well,
especially since it remains a very presigious title to them,
to Liverpool's fans and everything else. And you know, Bernie,
in the dying days the summer which should have been

(01:51:33):
MLS's time, we still look back to and look to
the MLS because those playoffs are going to be fast
approaching coming down the pike here in the fall. And
I guess the question is for Lionel Messi, who has
been out for quite some time since Copa America, when
will we see him back on the pitch for Inter Miami.

(01:51:53):
And now Inter Miami's head coach TODDA. Martine did confirm
that Messi will be ready to join the team for
training soon. He's recovering from a ligament injury he suffered
during the Copa America finals. And this kind of mirrors
some of what we were talking about last week about
Manchester United and their own concern among their fans and
among commentariat about one of their own stars playing in

(01:52:16):
euro Championship, even though he hadn't really been playing healthy
for the club since February, but it is a question
of Leonel Messi has staked a lot on his image
and the end the MLS has staked a lot on
his image, bolstering their league in America that Leonel Messi play.
And for the second year there's been quite a bit
of MLS track here that has not had Lionel Messi

(01:52:37):
featured in it, be it because of injury or because
of the twenty twenty four Copa America and Argentina taking precedence,
And to be honest, if you are a fan of MLS,
even he has kind of slightly been overshadowed. For those
who really care about MLS, we're probably more looking towards
something like Columbus and LAFC in a rematch of the
MLS Cup happening in the League's Cup Final, which will

(01:52:59):
happen here on Sunday, and it'll be a very thrilling matchup.
And if you're someone though who is just kind of
casually curious and you're coming in for Lionel Messi, then
that really doesn't bring anything to you, and Leonelle's Messi's
absence doesn't really bring anything in MLS to you, what
interest do you have if he's not out there on
the pitch. It's become the catch twenty two that MLS

(01:53:20):
has found itself mired in. They've made a huge gambler
and selling a lot of their product and a lot
of their matches and Apple TV plus subscriptions out to
people who came in to see Lionel Messi, and Leonel
Messi hasn't really been out there. This is one of
the dangers of putting so much of your product on
the shoulders of one star instead of growing out a vast,

(01:53:43):
healthy ecosystem. The good news is, unlike last year, that
Inter Miami will definitely be in the MLS Cup playoffs,
barring some sort of cataclysmic collapse down the stretch here
in September, as they stand atop of the Eastern Conference
at fifty three points going into the weekend and with
FC Cincinnati trailing behind them and Columbus Crew the defending

(01:54:04):
champions in third place in the East, and I suppose
then only then will we really get to see if
the Messi experiment does start to pay off, if playoff
soccer in America with Lionel Messi is enough to get
people to come over and watch soccer in the midst
of the American football season.

Speaker 7 (01:54:22):
That's it for us. Bernie will see you next time
in the world of soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Yeah, Chris and Mohammed opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
The Messi experiment so already where people are starstruck in
this country.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Just my thoughts. Derek Carr hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Somebody I respect gave a Derek Carr stat last week
that I thought was asinine and misleading, and I kind
of liken it to a Yogi Berra story.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
I'll tell you both. Coming up. I'm Bertie Fradder.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
Wrapping it up on the Bernie Fradle Show Fox Sports Radio,
Come to your lift totarak dot com studios. Before I
go any further, I don't think my broadcast team back
in Los Angeles Breed doing a great job on the
phones as well as bree Streets tonight, another raucous movie segment.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Great depth of knowledge by everybody, Chef Mark and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Again thanks to Chef Kevin Wired and all the updates
and Mark Ramsey are technical producer, turning all the dials
and keeping us glued together. We are seven hours and
eleven minutes away from college football Week zero.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
It's upon us.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Great job by everybody in the midnight hour as well.
Great job at the callers as we talked about the
playoff format.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
It's such moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
I'll be back on these airwaves eleven pm Saturday night,
heavy NFL influence, will talk a lot about college and
I've got some good guests on as well. And don't
forget brand new food what my name, brand new editions
of that. Plenty of high jinks for the whole family.
I don't know what hijinx even means. I'll have to
look it up when I get home. Actually I am home,
all right, Derek Carr. I'll get to you in a

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minute because what was said earlier this week and regarding
a stat which to me is about the most superfluous
stat you could ever have. And I'll explain why in
a minute. In fact, I would call it a Yogi
bear astat. You know what a Yogi bearstat is? True story,
Yogi one day against the Boston Red Sox went four
for four, and when you woke up the next morning

(01:56:31):
and read the sports section of the New York Times,
the box score said he went three for four. Yogi
was livid. He called the sports editor of the newspaper
and said, were you doing man? Yesterday against the Red Sox,
I went four for four. The editor said, relax, Yogi,
it was a typographical error.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
He said, what do you mean? It was a clean
sigle up the middle? Derek Carr? This week? It was
And I've heard two or three people try to tell
me this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Well, I guess it's one of those meaningless stats, like
the guy who you know, almost drowned on the river
with an average up to three feet. Derek Carr has
thirty fourth quarter comebacks.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
In his career. I think they went on to say,
what the most of anybody since.

Speaker 13 (01:57:21):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
Whenever? Since twenty sixteen. I guess that's when he entered
the league, or thereabouts thereabouts.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
Yeah, that in fifty cents to get you a cup
of coffee at burger chef against two and what and
of what meaning and significance did they have? Do you
not know that Derek Carr in his career well with
the Raiders, he was sixty three and seventy nine, never
won a playoff game, and saved probably some of his

(01:57:48):
worst performances.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
For the playoffs. Those are just the facts, man, Those
are just the facts. And the truth of the matter is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Going in New Orleans wasn't exactly the panacea that they
thought it would be. I think, frankly, New Orleans fans
are already gets sick of getting sick of Derek Carr.
And they're not even in a week one yet eighty
seven as a starter. And you know, even I'm hearing
even in practice this last week, second play of a scrimmage,

(01:58:18):
Derek Carr overthrew Chris Olave and you overthrow. Fans started
booing him at practice. At practice, one of the Saints
beat reporters said, well, the fans are ready for the
regular season now.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
He can't do that, Derek Carr.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
You know, and unless you saw him play up close
and personal a lot, you can't truly appreciate how underwhelming
you would be.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Is he a good athlete.

Speaker 13 (01:58:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Is he a good person, yeah? Has he made some
big time throws? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
When it doesn't matter, Derek Carr is pretty good. Except
if you're a Saints fan, you're still channeling, you know,
in twenty ten when Breeze and the Sads beat the
Colts and they're not walking through that door. Neither Breeze
is not walking through that door either of Sean Paydon.
You got Dennis Allen, who's no great shakes, and you
got Derek Carr. And one of the reasons you hear

(01:59:08):
this the timber in my voice about Derek Carr is
I wasn't particularly enthralled with how he left town.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
But one of the only real good decisions that Josh
McDaniel's ever made.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Another another d bag who was in way over his head,
another JABRONI he didn't like Derek Carr, couldn't run his offense.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
And then when Derek carry.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
You know, they let him go with two games to
goes we wouldn't get hurt and they'd have to pay
US forty million dollars. He kind of played the victim
on the way out. I didn't particularly care for that.
I don't root it against that car at Derek Carr.
Did I just say that was at a Freddian slip. Look,
I don't root against him, but I don't expect him
to ever do anything. My expectations to Derek Carr are

(01:59:47):
not a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
It's like it's like getting a two dollars steak, right,
Your expectations should not be high if you pay two
dollars first steak. Not that I've ever done it, but
you get the point.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
Derek Carr, good luck.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
You're gonna need it. It's gonna do a for the
Bernie Friders Show. See you tonight at eleven PM. In
the meantime, keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio.
It's the Fellas up next.

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